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List Member afonsogustavo@abordo.com.br wrote:
Hi Mick,


> In the Editor I have a button marked rc$, activating this takes me to a window
> design sub-program, which I can muddle through. On completion I am prompted
> to save the file as an GFR, now what do I do with it, I can't merge it cos only
> LST files are allowed, I can't load it cos it's not a GFW. Seems all I can do
> is put it in the rubbish bin
> Is there a help file for this rc$ procedure.

Use Send/Send LST in GFA RCS File menu and you will merge the design made to your
program.
[]s
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List Member John Findlay <Jayef@compuserve.com> wrote:



Does anyone know what the default association of *.lnk files are in
Win95/98?

I've accidentally changed mine and cannot now start apps from icons.


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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
    JPE.ZIP is available from the download page on the GFAWHELP web site.
JPE -Joe's Personal Editor- was written by Joe Hurst of BBOX fame.  Both of
these programs are fantastic learning tools for any GFA programmer.  Both
are available at. Don't miss them!
http://gfawhelp.gfa.net/downloads

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List Member John Findlay <Jayef@compuserve.com> wrote:


Joe,

>John, please tell me: which DLL do you free here _IN_ the DLL?<


It was not the code from ownsub.dll anyway, it was just an example of
free-ing.

I've seen your Editor, very good!



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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
The source code to the     OWNSUB .DLL is available for downloading from. If
you make any changes please send to me.
adbryant@gfa.net

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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
CTRL.ZIP by John Findlay has been updated today. You should download
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
I'm drawing a complete blank.
I need the statement to make a window "on top".
TomR.

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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
TOPW# Command

Action: activates a window.

Syntax: TOPW #n

n:  iexp

Explanation: When several windows are opened, TOPW #n activates the window
(0 to 31) specified in n. If this window is covered by another, it is
brought up to the front.

Example: OPENW #1,10,10,200,100,-1

OPENW #2,40,40,200,100,-1
OPENW #3,70,70,200,100,-1
OPENW #4,100,100,200,100,-1
TOPW #2
KEYGET a%
CLOSEW #2
CLOSEW #4
CLOSEW #3
CLOSEW #1


Draws four windows one after the other on the screen and then activates the
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See Also: CLEARW, CLOSEW, TITLEW, SIZEW, FULLW, OPENW
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> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> I'm drawing a complete blank.
> I need the statement to make a window "on top".
> TomR.
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Check association in FileMgr or MyComputer... *.lnk should
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TomR.

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Thank you, Dale.  I kept looking for a SendMessage or some such.
I have to make formtext be topmost when called into play.  I just
can't think tonight.  Thank you.

I found that when an LB prog calls it, it is hidden behind the LB 
window.  LB means LibertyBasic, another Windows Basic.
<G>
TomR.


At 04:00 PM 15/05/99 -0700, you wrote:
>List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
>TOPW# Command
>
>Action: activates a window.
>
>Syntax: TOPW #n
>
>n:  iexp
>
>Explanation: When several windows are opened, TOPW #n activates the window
>(0 to 31) specified in n. If this window is covered by another, it is
>brought up to the front.
>
>Example: OPENW #1,10,10,200,100,-1
>
>OPENW #2,40,40,200,100,-1
>OPENW #3,70,70,200,100,-1
>OPENW #4,100,100,200,100,-1
>TOPW #2
>KEYGET a%
>CLOSEW #2
>CLOSEW #4
>CLOSEW #3
>CLOSEW #1
>
>
>Draws four windows one after the other on the screen and then activates the
>window number 2.
>
>See Also: CLEARW, CLOSEW, TITLEW, SIZEW, FULLW, OPENW
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net>
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>Sent: Saturday, May 15, 1999 3:46 PM
>Subject: [gfabasic] lost
>
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>> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> I'm drawing a complete blank.
>> I need the statement to make a window "on top".
>> TomR.
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
TOPW #N doesn't do the trick... it still appears behind the calling appl's
own window.

My mind is totally devoid of ideas now.  Any more suggestions?  I've given
some thot to going MODAL, but will wait for my mind to clear.
<G>
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List Member "Russell Hayward" <tarquin@baphead.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
Hi Tom,

If it doesn't matter about working on 3.1 then you can use this:

DLL #1,"user"
  DECL BOOL SetForegroundWindow(W)
ENDDLL

SetForegroundWindow(WIN(?))

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> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> TOPW #N doesn't do the trick... it still appears behind the calling appl's
> own window.
>
> My mind is totally devoid of ideas now.  Any more suggestions?  I've given
> some thot to going MODAL, but will wait for my mind to clear.
> <G>
> TomR.
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
ShowWindow() Function

Action: shows or removes the window specified in h&.
Syntax: f!=ShowWindow(h&,s&)

 f!: specifies the visibility of the window. When f!=TRUE the window was
visible before the function was invoked.
 h&: window handle
 s&: specifies the window status. s& must have one of the following values:


 SW_HIDE
  hides the window specified in h& and passes control to the next one.

 SW_MINIMIZE
  minimizes (iconizes) the window specified in h& and activates the top
level window in the window manager list.

 SW_RESTORE
  same as SW_SHOWNORMAL

 SW_SHOW
  activates the window specified in h& and shows it at the current position
and in current size.

 SW_SHOWMAXIMIZED
  activates the window specified in h& and shows it in its maximum size.

  SW_SHOWMINIMIZED

  activates the window specified in h& and shows it as an icon.

 SW_SHOWMINNOACTIVE
  shows the window specified in h& as icon but keeps the current window
active.

 SW_SHOWNA
  shows the window specified in h& using the current status but keeps the
current window active.

 SW_SHOWNOACTIVATE
  shows the window specified in h& using the current position and size but
keeps the current window active.

 SW_SHOWNORMAL
  activates and shows a window. For maximised or minimised windows Windows
maintains the previous position and size.






----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net>
To: <gfabasic@gfa.net>
Sent: Saturday, May 15, 1999 4:16 PM
Subject: Re: [gfabasic] lost


> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Thank you, Dale.  I kept looking for a SendMessage or some such.
> I have to make formtext be topmost when called into play.  I just
> can't think tonight.  Thank you.
>
> I found that when an LB prog calls it, it is hidden behind the LB
> window.  LB means LibertyBasic, another Windows Basic.
> <G>
> TomR.
>
>
> At 04:00 PM 15/05/99 -0700, you wrote:
> >List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> >TOPW# Command
> >
> >Action: activates a window.
> >
> >Syntax: TOPW #n
> >
> >n:  iexp
> >
> >Explanation: When several windows are opened, TOPW #n activates the
window
> >(0 to 31) specified in n. If this window is covered by another, it is
> >brought up to the front.
> >
> >Example: OPENW #1,10,10,200,100,-1
> >
> >OPENW #2,40,40,200,100,-1
> >OPENW #3,70,70,200,100,-1
> >OPENW #4,100,100,200,100,-1
> >TOPW #2
> >KEYGET a%
> >CLOSEW #2
> >CLOSEW #4
> >CLOSEW #3
> >CLOSEW #1
> >
> >
> >Draws four windows one after the other on the screen and then activates
the
> >window number 2.
> >
> >See Also: CLEARW, CLOSEW, TITLEW, SIZEW, FULLW, OPENW
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net>
> >To: <gfabasic@gfa.net>
> >Sent: Saturday, May 15, 1999 3:46 PM
> >Subject: [gfabasic] lost
> >
> >
> >> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net>
wrote:
> >> I'm drawing a complete blank.
> >> I need the statement to make a window "on top".
> >> TomR.
> >>
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List Member GFA Online <service@gfa.net> wrote:
Tom,

are you looking for SetWindowPos?

~SetWindowPos(Win(1),-1,0,0,0,0,3) 
// puts Window #1 on top of all windows on the screen
//In order to remove that flag, use 
~SetWindowPos(Win(1),-2,0,0,0,0,3)

At 23:39 15.05.99 +0000, you wrote:
>List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>TOPW #N doesn't do the trick... it still appears behind the calling appl's
>own window.
>
>My mind is totally devoid of ideas now.  Any more suggestions?  I've given
>some thot to going MODAL, but will wait for my mind to clear.
><G>
>TomR.
>
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Now the vocabulary begins to really grow!  Drat!  I should have
thot about this one myself... I translated these to LB some time
back.
Thanks, Dale.
<G>
TomR.


At 05:38 PM 15/05/99 -0700, you wrote:
>List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
>ShowWindow() Function
>
>Action: shows or removes the window specified in h&.
>Syntax: f!=ShowWindow(h&,s&)
>
> f!: specifies the visibility of the window. When f!=TRUE the window was
>visible before the function was invoked.
> h&: window handle
> s&: specifies the window status. s& must have one of the following values:
>
>
> SW_HIDE
>  hides the window specified in h& and passes control to the next one.
>
> SW_MINIMIZE
>  minimizes (iconizes) the window specified in h& and activates the top
>level window in the window manager list.
>
> SW_RESTORE
>  same as SW_SHOWNORMAL
>
> SW_SHOW
>  activates the window specified in h& and shows it at the current position
>and in current size.
>
> SW_SHOWMAXIMIZED
>  activates the window specified in h& and shows it in its maximum size.
>
>  SW_SHOWMINIMIZED
>
>  activates the window specified in h& and shows it as an icon.
>
> SW_SHOWMINNOACTIVE
>  shows the window specified in h& as icon but keeps the current window
>active.
>
> SW_SHOWNA
>  shows the window specified in h& using the current status but keeps the
>current window active.
>
> SW_SHOWNOACTIVATE
>  shows the window specified in h& using the current position and size but
>keeps the current window active.
>
> SW_SHOWNORMAL
>  activates and shows a window. For maximised or minimised windows Windows
>maintains the previous position and size.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net>
>To: <gfabasic@gfa.net>
>Sent: Saturday, May 15, 1999 4:16 PM
>Subject: Re: [gfabasic] lost
>
>
>> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> Thank you, Dale.  I kept looking for a SendMessage or some such.
>> I have to make formtext be topmost when called into play.  I just
>> can't think tonight.  Thank you.
>>
>> I found that when an LB prog calls it, it is hidden behind the LB
>> window.  LB means LibertyBasic, another Windows Basic.
>> <G>
>> TomR.
>>
>>
>> At 04:00 PM 15/05/99 -0700, you wrote:
>> >List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
>> >TOPW# Command
>> >
>> >Action: activates a window.
>> >
>> >Syntax: TOPW #n
>> >
>> >n:  iexp
>> >
>> >Explanation: When several windows are opened, TOPW #n activates the
>window
>> >(0 to 31) specified in n. If this window is covered by another, it is
>> >brought up to the front.
>> >
>> >Example: OPENW #1,10,10,200,100,-1
>> >
>> >OPENW #2,40,40,200,100,-1
>> >OPENW #3,70,70,200,100,-1
>> >OPENW #4,100,100,200,100,-1
>> >TOPW #2
>> >KEYGET a%
>> >CLOSEW #2
>> >CLOSEW #4
>> >CLOSEW #3
>> >CLOSEW #1
>> >
>> >
>> >Draws four windows one after the other on the screen and then activates
>the
>> >window number 2.
>> >
>> >See Also: CLEARW, CLOSEW, TITLEW, SIZEW, FULLW, OPENW
>> >----- Original Message -----
>> >From: Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net>
>> >To: <gfabasic@gfa.net>
>> >Sent: Saturday, May 15, 1999 3:46 PM
>> >Subject: [gfabasic] lost
>> >
>> >
>> >> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net>
>wrote:
>> >> I'm drawing a complete blank.
>> >> I need the statement to make a window "on top".
>> >> TomR.
>> >>
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Hmmmmmmmmmmm!  Nitty Gritty!  One of these suggestions will surely
work properly.  I hadn't even looked at this as a possible.  I'll
geive all methods a try & lett all know how it turns out.  There may
be some kind of conflict I'm unaware of at the moment between GFA-W
& LB.

Thanks muchly to all who responded.  I'll let you all know what
happens.
<G>
TomR.


At 03:19 AM 16/05/99 +0200, you wrote:
>List Member GFA Online <service@gfa.net> wrote:
>Tom,
>
>are you looking for SetWindowPos?
>
>~SetWindowPos(Win(1),-1,0,0,0,0,3) 
>// puts Window #1 on top of all windows on the screen
>//In order to remove that flag, use 
>~SetWindowPos(Win(1),-2,0,0,0,0,3)
>
>At 23:39 15.05.99 +0000, you wrote:
>>List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>>TOPW #N doesn't do the trick... it still appears behind the calling appl's
>>own window.
>>
>>My mind is totally devoid of ideas now.  Any more suggestions?  I've given
>>some thot to going MODAL, but will wait for my mind to clear.
>><G>
>>TomR.
>>
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Russell
A new idea!  Thanks - will try it.  I'm game to try anything new.
Will let you know how it goes.
<G>
TomR.


At 01:31 AM 16/05/99 +0100, you wrote:
>List Member "Russell Hayward" <tarquin@baphead.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>Hi Tom,
>
>If it doesn't matter about working on 3.1 then you can use this:
>
>DLL #1,"user"
>  DECL BOOL SetForegroundWindow(W)
>ENDDLL
>
>SetForegroundWindow(WIN(?))
>
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>Sent: 16 May 1999 12:39am
>Subject: [gfabasic] still lost
>
>
>> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> TOPW #N doesn't do the trick... it still appears behind the calling appl's
>> own window.
>>
>> My mind is totally devoid of ideas now.  Any more suggestions?  I've given
>> some thot to going MODAL, but will wait for my mind to clear.
>> <G>
>> TomR.
>>
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
15/05/99 09:27:41 PM   was lost, now found!   1505zz1-

  ~SetWindowPos(WIN(1),-1,0,0,0,0,3)  Worked w/ LB
  
  
TOPW #1  Did not work w/ LB


f!=ShowWindow(Win(1),SW_SHOWNORMAL)  Did not work w/ LB


DLL #1,"user"
  DECL BOOL SetForegroundWindow(W)
ENDDLL

SetForegroundWindow(WIN(1))  Did not work w/ LB

FREEDLL 1

Ok... good experiment.  Thank you folks very much.  Now we all
know the liklihood of getting a GFA-W appl to work with something
from another language.

The object here was to let other language appls call FormText as
a means of providing helpfiles, etc., without having to go thru
the murderous rigors of generating real winhelp helpfiles.

One more obstacle exists to overcome & we're home.  I still have
trouble making hotspots or hotlinks work in FormText.  It seems
to totally ignore the mouse when over the text display area.  I
am unfamiliar with how HTML functions in this respect.  I know that
one can select even the text in an HTML doc in the browsers & bring
it out on the clipboard.  NOT so, as yet with FormText.

Again, thank you to all who responded.  We got it!
<G>
TomR.

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Sounds like John Findlay to me.
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Weiss jemand, wie man animierte Gifs per Gfa-Basic auf den Bilschirm
kriegt?? Das muss doch m=F6glich sein. Meine Kr=FCcke (die Einzelbilder v=
on
einem verborgenen Bildschirm holen und per PUT anzuzeigen - was =FCbrigen=
s
l=E4ngst schnell genug geht..) kanns doch nicht sein. Oder?
---
Is there any way to play animated Gifs in gfa-basic? My way (GETting the
pictures from a hidden screen and PUTting them one after the other - work=
ing
fast and without problems - ) cannot be the solution...

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Bernd
I have found several modules that will allow playing animated *.gif,
BUT... they're all 32-bit & are *.OCX.  *.OCX is just another form
of *.dll, but the calling is different & I've not been able to do it.

You're welcome to give'em a try.

Would you please share what you've worked out?  Even *this* would serve
my purpose.  I've had no success separating the images in an animation.

<G>
TomR.


At 04:26 PM 16/05/99 +0200, you wrote:
>Weiss jemand, wie man animierte Gifs per Gfa-Basic auf den Bilschirm
kriegt?? Das muss doch m=F6glich sein. Meine Kr=FCcke (die Einzelbilder von
einem verborgenen Bildschirm holen und per PUT anzuzeigen - was =FCbrigens
l=E4ngst schnell genug geht..) kanns doch nicht sein. Oder?
>---
>Is there any way to play animated Gifs in gfa-basic? My way (GETting the
pictures from a hidden screen and PUTting them one after the other - working
fast and without problems - ) cannot be the solution...
>
>Bernd
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List Member John Findlay <Jayef@compuserve.com> wrote:

Dale,

>Sounds like John Findlay to me.<

You're up early today!

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List Member John Findlay <Jayef@compuserve.com> wrote:

Bernd,

> - working fast and without problems - ) cannot be the solution...<

If you are working fast and without problems why change it?

However if you need another way there is quite a good gif loader, (at lea=
st
I think so) on Dale's web page.

It loads a gif and makes a DIB. The DIB could then be converted into a DD=
B
(bitmap) for fast display-ing. If the gif's are not large, which is often=

the case with gif anim's you could leave the images as DIB's and display
them with API SetDIBitsToDevice().

John
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List Member Michael Weigand <michael-weigand@foni.net> wrote:
Hi!

As you might know it is possible to display a HTML document like this:

temp$ = "file:///E:\handbuch\stckcalc.html" + CHR$(0)
VOID @@ShellExecute(WIN(1),"open",temp$,"","",SW_SHOW)

This works fine. But I would like to let the browser display the document
at a specified position, for example this bookmark:

file:///E:/handbuch/stckcalc.html#Installation

I tried it, but I failed. Is it possible? How?


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List Member GFA Online <service@gfa.net> wrote:
It is not possible to use an API call for this functionality.
Support of Anchors is a HTML feature.
But you can do a trick:
- create a plan HTML file by using Print #1, HTMLCode
  (temporary use only, of course)
- this file should include a meta refresh command to 
  automatically go to the stckcalc.html and have the 
  anchor defined as destination
- call the temp HTML file with ShellExecute
- later on delete the temp file

(have a look at http://www.teamone.de/selfhtml for the
 explanation of the meta refresh command; german only).


+++ GFA Online

At 20:49 16.05.99 +0200, you wrote:
>List Member Michael Weigand <michael-weigand@foni.net> wrote:
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>As you might know it is possible to display a HTML document like this:
>
>temp$ = "file:///E:\handbuch\stckcalc.html" + CHR$(0)
>VOID @@ShellExecute(WIN(1),"open",temp$,"","",SW_SHOW)
>
>This works fine. But I would like to let the browser display the document
>at a specified position, for example this bookmark:
>
>file:///E:/handbuch/stckcalc.html#Installation
>
>I tried it, but I failed. Is it possible? How?
>
>
>M!chael
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List Member Reuben <softprod@hartingdale.com.au> wrote:
I ahve exactly the same probbie trying to un zip it!

Reuben
Sydney

Bill Farmer wrote:

> List Member Bill Farmer <fxfarmer@erols.com> wrote:
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HI Rueben,
The first JPE.ZIP somehow was corrupted in transfer. I deleted it form the
server and FTPd a new copy. It should be OK now. If it is not please let me
know. I did download it and it was OK>
Dale

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> List Member Reuben <softprod@hartingdale.com.au> wrote:
> I ahve exactly the same probbie trying to un zip it!
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List Member Anthony Watson <awatson@pacifier.com> wrote:
> This works fine. But I would like to let the browser display the document
> at a specified position, for example this bookmark:
> file:///E:/handbuch/stckcalc.html#Installation
> I tried it, but I failed. Is it possible? How?

I had the same problems a while back, and the only solution I found was to
create a temporary HTML file with a redirect to the location in the page I
wanted to load. I then delete the temp HTML file when I'm done.

I don't have an example right now, but I can get you one if you need it?
And, if you find a more elegant solution, I'd love to see it.

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List Member "Sjouke Hamstra" <shamstra@dds.nl> wrote:
I have to recall from memory. An Exported function has a different prolog
(function entry point sequence) than a callback function. So do not use an
EXPORT as a CB.
Instead use an EXPORT that returns a CB address from a Procedure inside a DLL.

--------------
DLL
-------------
PROCEDURE GetTimeProc()
$EXPORT GetTimeProc
_Cb(15) = TimeProc(l,l,l,l)
Retval Long(_Cb(15))
RETURN

PROCEDURE TimeProc(...)
RETURN

---------
{lpsong}.timeid = ^timeSetEvent(SIXTEENTH, TIMERESOLUTION,
           ^GetTimeProc(),             // new line
           lpsong, TIME_PERIODIC)

This should help you out.

Sjouke

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> List Member John Findlay <Jayef@compuserve.com> wrote:
>
> I could do with some help from those elusive Guru's, :)
>
> A tricky problem. I'm trying to convert a DLL from C to GFW. The C listing
> compiles OK and will run when called from a GFW prog but I'm having trouble
> converting the DLL listing to GFW.
>
> The programme uses the mmsystem.dll API timeSetEvent() to start a callback
> that will will play midi songs one note at a time. The timeSetEvent()
> returns an ID for the timer but the TimeProc is never entered.
>
> I'd appreciate any suggestions.
>
>   '=================================================
>   ' Get the address of Timer Function
>   '=================================================
>   lpTimerFunc = GetProcAddress(_INSTANCE, "TimeProc")
>
>   {lpsong}.timeid = ^timeSetEvent(SIXTEENTH, TIMERESOLUTION,
>             lpTimerFunc, lpsong, TIME_PERIODIC)
>
>
> PROCEDURE TimeProc(id, msg, lUser, ldw1, ldw2)
>   $Export TimeProc
>   LOCAL lpsong    = lUser
>   LOCAL noteindex = {lUser}.noteindex
>   ~PostMessage({lpsong}.hWnd, WM_USER, 1, 0)
>   IF {lpsong}.timeleft = 0
>     IF {lpsong}.noteindex && {lpnote + 4 * noteindex}.note != lVOICE
>       @StopNote(lpsong)
>     ENDIF
>     {lpsong}.noteindex = {lpsong}.noteindex + 1
>     noteindex = {lpsong}.noteindex
>     IF {lpnote + 4 * noteindex}.note = lENDSONG
>       ~PostMessage({lpsong}.hWnd, MM_MIDIFINISHED, 0, 0)
>     ELSE
>       @PlayNote(lpsong)
>     ENDIF
>   ELSE
>     {lpsong}.timeleft = {lpsong}.timeleft - 1
>   ENDIF
> RETURN
>
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List Member John Findlay <Jayef@compuserve.com> wrote:

Sjouke,

 <shamstra@dds.nl>  Another new address!?


Thanks, I've sorted the problem though, the code below is now working.

 lpTimerFunc =3D GetProcAddress(_INSTANCE, "TimeProc")

 {lpsong}.timeid =3D ^timeSetEvent(SIXTEENTH, TIMERESOLUTION,
                 lpTimeProc, lpsong, TIME_PERIODIC)

PROCEDURE TimeProc(id, msg, lUser, ldw1, ldw2)
  $Export TimeProc

timeSetEvent() is supposed to give a timer with a possible resolution of
one milisec, scary eh! I have no way of testing one milisec, perhaps Andr=
as
would like to test it with his oscilloscope.

It seems to play midi music ok.


John =

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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Hi Anthony,
Could you send an example.  I would like to see it if I may.
Dale

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> List Member Anthony Watson <awatson@pacifier.com> wrote:
> > This works fine. But I would like to let the browser display the
document
> > at a specified position, for example this bookmark:
> > file:///E:/handbuch/stckcalc.html#Installation
> > I tried it, but I failed. Is it possible? How?
>
> I had the same problems a while back, and the only solution I found was to
> create a temporary HTML file with a redirect to the location in the page I
> wanted to load. I then delete the temp HTML file when I'm done.
>
> I don't have an example right now, but I can get you one if you need it?
> And, if you find a more elegant solution, I'd love to see it.
>
> Anthony Watson
> Mountain Software
> support@mountain-software.com
> http://www.mountain-software.com
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List Member Anthony Watson <awatson@pacifier.com> wrote:
Dale,

>> create a temporary HTML file with a redirect
> Could you send an example.  I would like to see it if I may.

Sure. This is kind of crude as I tried to extract it from my own program
and pull out all the unrelated stuff for clarity. But, it should give
you the basic idea.

Naturally, you'll need to have the web browser installed, and have the
HTML web page with the proper internal anchor defined.

Hope this helps,

Anthony Watson
Mountain Software
support@mountain-software.com
http://www.mountain-software.com

=========================================================================

browser$="c:\IE\iexplore.exe"               '** Location of web browser
web_page$="c:\basic\help.htm"               '** Sample Web Page
link$="#index"                              '** Sample Internal Link
 
a=RINSTR(web_page$,"\")                     '** Separate path and file
path$=LEFT$(web_page$,a)                    '** Web page path
file$=MID$(web_page$,a+1,LEN(web_page$)-a)  '** Web page filename
 
temp_page$=path$+"temp.htm"                 '** Define temporary jump page
 
OPEN "o",#2,temp_page$                      '** Create temporary jump page
PRINT #2,"<HTML><HEAD><TITLE>Temp Redirect File</TITLE>"
PRINT #2,"<META HTTP-EQUIV="+CHR$(34)+"Refresh"+CHR$(34);
PRINT #2," CONTENT="+CHR$(34)+"0; URL="+file$;
PRINT #2,link$+CHR$(34)+">"
PRINT #2,"</HEAD><BODY></BODY></HTML>"
CLOSE #2
 
a=EXEC(browser$,temp_page$)                 '** Call the browser               

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List Member Michael Weigand <michael-weigand@foni.net> wrote:
>List Member Anthony Watson <awatson@pacifier.com> wrote:

>I don't have an example right now, but I can get you one if you need it?

I think I will be able to do it this way without an example

>And, if you find a more elegant solution, I'd love to see it.

Another solution would be deviding the HTML document in seperate files. 


M!chael

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List Member Anthony Watson <awatson@pacifier.com> wrote:
Michael,

> I think I will be able to do it this way without an example

You might peek at the sample I sent to Dale...

> Another solution would be deviding the HTML document in seperate files. 

True... But, I'm a big believer in reducing the number of files an
application needs. Ideally, I like to limit the needed files to the
program executable, the documentation/help file, and the data file(s). I
also do not like to reference external DLL's or files in other directories
unless they can be determined in real time through Windows API's. In other
words, the user should be able to move the files to another directory,
drive, or computer and have everything work perfectly without
reinstalling.

Anthony


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List Member "Sjouke Hamstra" <shamstra@dds.nl> wrote:
>  <shamstra@dds.nl>  Another new address!?

Unfortunately. Ower server failed and I had to get a new address. This one is
not provider dependent, so it could it last forever...


> Thanks, I've sorted the problem though, the code below is now working.
>
>  lpTimerFunc = GetProcAddress(_INSTANCE, "TimeProc")
>
>  {lpsong}.timeid = ^timeSetEvent(SIXTEENTH, TIMERESOLUTION,
>                  lpTimeProc, lpsong, TIME_PERIODIC)
>
> PROCEDURE TimeProc(id, msg, lUser, ldw1, ldw2)
>   $Export TimeProc
>
> timeSetEvent() is supposed to give a timer with a possible resolution of
> one milisec, scary eh! I have no way of testing one milisec, perhaps Andras
> would like to test it with his oscilloscope.
>
> It seems to play midi music ok.

I had to recall it from memory, but you should assume an exported function is
different from a callback function. If one day something goes wrong you know
where to look.

Sjouke

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List Member BDD <BrentDeck@compuserve.com> wrote:
Will a 16-bit screensaver written in GFA basic work correctly in both NT
and W95/98 ?

Does installation require anything other than adding the line:

SCRNSAVE.EXE=3Ddrive:/ path / file.scr

to the system.ini file?

(I'm still using 3.1)

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List Member Frank.Schuetze@t-online.de (Frank =3D?iso-8859-1?Q?Sch=3DFCtz=
e?=3D) wrote:
Hallo,

mit a&=3DDLG(1) kann man das Window handle des Dialoges 1 bekommen.
Ich m=F6chte gern aber die Dialognummer aus dem Window handle ermitteln,
geht das ?

Danke
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List Member John Findlay <Jayef@compuserve.com> wrote:

Sjouke,

> but you should assume an exported function is different from a callback=

function. <

Sure, using _CB() gives a different address pointer. But the code works O=
K.

Do you know what GFA does to create a callback, does it use
MakeProcInstance?

>>>>
MakeProcInstance in DLL's:
If the address specified in the lpProc parameter identifies a procedure i=
n
a dynamic-link library, MakeProcInstance returns the same address specifi=
ed
in lpProc.
<<<<

John
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List Member J.Burgmeier@t-online.de (Juergen Burgmeier) wrote:
Hi,
In order to handle long file names in GFABASIC on Windows NT  I tried to
use the ideas from  Roland Walter introduced in the helpfile GFABAS04
(8/31/1997) on his homepage.
But this attempt has failed because the flag OFN_LONGNAMES%=3D$00200000
for the GFA dialogs  DLG SAVE  / OPEN doesn=92t switch the dialogs to lon=
g
file names and therefore the dialog outputs can=92t be used.
So it is not possible to process long file names in this way for NT
applications. (On Windows98 the GFA dialogs and even Roland's routines
for transforming the long to short names for saving & loading the
selected files are working excellent)

Has anyone an idea how to replace or to modify the GFA dialogs
DGL SAVE / OPEN in order to solve the NT problem ?

BTW:  The GFA editor with the extension tool can handle long file names
on NT. The author of this tool should have solved my problem
if it is based on GFABASIC.

Regards Juergen



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Hi,
In order to handle long file names in GFABASIC on Windows NT  I tried to
use the ideas from  Roland Walter introduced in the helpfile GFABAS04
(8/31/1997) on his homepage.
But this attempt has failed because the flag OFN_LONGNAMES%=$00200000
for the GFA dialogs  DLG SAVE  / OPEN doesnt switch the dialogs to long
file names and therefore the dialog outputs cant be used.
So it is not possible to process long file names in this way for NT
applications. (On Windows98 the GFA dialogs and even Roland's routines
for transforming the long to short names for saving & loading the
selected files are working excellent)

Has anyone an idea how to replace or to modify the GFA dialogs
DGL SAVE / OPEN in order to solve the NT problem ?

BTW:  The GFA editor with the extension tool can handle long file names
on NT. The author of this tool should have solved my problem
if it is based on GFABASIC.

Regards Juergen





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List Member "EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" <JoeHurst@snafu.de> wrote:
> Will a 16-bit screensaver written in GFA basic work correctly in both NT
> and W95/98 ?
Yes, if it does no file-actions, it will run with NT (with NT it is possible to
lock the win-/system-dir against write-access).

> Does installation require anything other than adding the line:
> SCRNSAVE.EXE=drive:/ path / file.scr
This entry is _not_ needed. Every SCR-file in the win-/system-dir will be
displayed in the screen-options-dialog without any entry in any ini.
The entry you wrote above is the active screen-saver. On Win95/98/NT, the entry
is just for compatibility with older programs which track the win/system.ini

Bye, Joe

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List Member BDD <BrentDeck@compuserve.com> wrote:
>> SCRNSAVE.EXE=3Ddrive:/ path / file.scr

>This entry is _not_ needed. Every SCR-file in the win-/system-dir will b=
e
>displayed in the screen-options-dialog without any entry in any ini.
>The entry you wrote above is the active screen-saver. On Win95/98/NT, th=
e
entry
>is just for compatibility with older programs which track the
win/system.ini


Joe,

Thanks for your response.

Are you saying that setting this line in NT will not =

assure that the desired file is the active screensaver?
How does one activate the file  ( from an install program ).

Brent =

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Attached to this mail is a solution for using Common Dialog Boxes
even on Win NT.

++++ GFA Online
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At 17:30 18.05.99 +0200, you wrote:
>List Member J.Burgmeier@t-online.de (Juergen Burgmeier) wrote:
>Hi,
>In order to handle long file names in GFABASIC on Windows NT  I tried to
>use the ideas from  Roland Walter introduced in the helpfile GFABAS04
>(8/31/1997) on his homepage.
>But this attempt has failed because the flag OFN_LONGNAMES%=3D$00200000
>for the GFA dialogs  DLG SAVE  / OPEN doesn=92t switch the dialogs to lo=
ng
>file names and therefore the dialog outputs can=92t be used.
>So it is not possible to process long file names in this way for NT
>applications. (On Windows98 the GFA dialogs and even Roland's routines
>for transforming the long to short names for saving & loading the
>selected files are working excellent)
>
>Has anyone an idea how to replace or to modify the GFA dialogs
>DGL SAVE / OPEN in order to solve the NT problem ?
>

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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
I am always looking for articles or short code examples to publish in the
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Also, If you program in GFA BASIC and you would like to add your name to the
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List Member "Roland Walter" <alibaba@zedat.fu-berlin.de> wrote:
From:           	"EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" <JoeHurst@snafu.de>
To:             	<gfabasic@gfa.net>
Subject:        	RE: [gfabasic] portable screensaver
Date sent:      	Tue, 18 May 1999 21:45:35 +0200
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> > Does installation require anything other than adding the line:
> > SCRNSAVE.EXE=drive:/ path / file.scr
> This entry is _not_ needed. Every SCR-file in the win-/system-dir will be
> displayed in the screen-options-dialog without any entry in any ini.

This is half correct if I think. To create a screensaver executable 
the following comiler directives are to set:

'This entry (with "SCRNSAVE:") MUST be:
$DESCR SCRNSAVE: MySaver
'The next is optional but usefull:
$LNK Exe mysave.scr
'The next is in EXE automaticly replaced by "GFA compiled" if 
missing:
$Name MySaver

If the executable description "SCRNSAVE:" is missing by 
minimum under Windows 3.1 the saver will not be found even if the 
file exists. Under Windows 95 I have not tested this.

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Hi,
does anyone have a different email address for E. Renner?
If so, would you send it to me. I get returns on al his messages.
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Added to GFAWHELP Web site today.
See CODE section for the GFW Source code.
[TODAY]
Received from GFA Software Technologies

attached to this mail is a solution for using the Uninstall
feature of Win32 (uses Wow32 and the Win32 Registry API).

If you like, you can publish it on GFAWHELP website, in
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 If so, would you send it to me. I get returns on al his messages.
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List Member Peter_Harder@nf.maus.de (Peter Harder) (by way of "Administrator GFA.NET" <webmaster@gfa.net>) wrote:
Hallo Frank!

Du schriebst:

FS> mit a&=3DDLG(1) kann man das Window handle des Dialoges 1 bekommen.
FS> Ich m=F6chte gern aber die Dialognummer aus dem Window handle ermitteln,
FS> geht das?

Du mu=DFt mit einer Schleife von allen 32 m=F6glichen Dialogen die Handles
holen und diese Handles dann mit dem vorhandenen Handle abgleichen, um
darus dann auf die Nummer zu schlie=DFen.


Sch=F6ne Gr=FC=DFe aus Nordfriesland
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
You wrote:

FS> with a&=3DDLG(1) one knows the Window acts the dialogue 1 to get.
FS> I would like gladly however the dialogue number from the Window
acts determines, to FS> goes that?

You must get with a loop of all 32 possible dialogues the Handles and
this Handles then with the existing act adjust, in order to then close
darus on the number.

Kind regards from Nordfriesland Peter

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Hallo Frank!

Du schriebst:

FS> mit a&=3DDLG(1) kann man das Window handle des Dialoges 1 bekommen.
FS> Ich m=F6chte gern aber die Dialognummer aus dem Window handle ermitte=
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FS> geht das?

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Sch=F6ne Gr=FC=DFe aus Nordfriesland
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List Member "EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" <JoeHurst@snafu.de> wrote:
> Are you saying that setting this line in NT will not
> assure that the desired file is the active screensaver?
No, that is not what I say :-) But to make a screen-saver the active one, I
believe a registry-setting is needed (take a deep look in your registry to find
your current screen-saver). I do not believe that writing to the sytem.ini will
activate your screen-saver (but, hey, why don't you try it).
BTW: This is not depending on NT - W9x will need the setting in the registry,
too.

> How does one activate the file  ( from an install program ).
Hm...write the registry AND the system.ini. That will be a 100% sure way, I
think. Or try to find anything in the MS 32-bit SDK (if you're so rich to have
one) about this theme.

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List Member "EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" <JoeHurst@snafu.de> wrote:
> > > Does installation require anything other than adding the line:
> > > SCRNSAVE.EXE=drive:/ path / file.scr
> > This entry is _not_ needed. Every SCR-file in the win-/system-dir will be
> > displayed in the screen-options-dialog without any entry in any ini.
> 
> This is half correct if I think. To create a screensaver executable 
> the following comiler directives are to set:
It is a point of view:
You think about the compiler-switches in the source.
I thought about the system.ini-entries.
Brent thought about the setting to make a screen-saver the active one.

Bye, Joe

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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Hello All,
I received this email from Mr Sharma. Mr Sharma is a professor at Southern
Methodist University in Texas, USA. I am passing it along to see if any can
help Mr. Sharma.
Dale Bryant

----- Original Message -----
From: Roshan L. Sharma <rsharma@post.cis.smu.edu>
To: <adbryant@gfa.net>
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 1999 1:10 PM
Subject: Re: DLL FILES


> Dear Dale:
> I wonder if you or your friends can help me.
>
> In my 1997 book, Network Design Using EcoNets" I included a diskette
> with my application, EcoNets and many supporting text files. It
> seemed to work for all the students who are scattered in American
> cities and use diverse types of IBM-compatible CPU's.
>
> A few days ago, a gentleman from Mexico, used my website
> <www.econets.com> to download the application and the supporting text
> files. But he gets the nasty message "Can't find gfarun10.dll file".
> Same thing happened when I tried to install my application from my
> SMU diskette on a newly acquired computer system while I was in
> Washington D.C. But this time I installed the gfarun10.dll from an
> old diskette that had an early version of EcoNets for 386CPU. And it
> worked. I used to believe that a compiled version of EcoNets doesn't
> need gfarun10.dll.
>
> Perhaps I should also allow the downloading of gfarun10.dll from my
> website. Perhaps I should name this file as gfarun.exe and let the
> recipient rename it as gfarun10.dll. I had difficulty in simulating a
> .dll file download at my site.
>
> Thank you for any ideas.
>
> Roshan L. Sharma, Adjunct Professor, EE Dept. SMU, Dallas
> Roshan L. Sharma <rsharma@mail.smu.edu>
> 214-691-6790 <voice>
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List Member "EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" <JoeHurst@snafu.de> wrote:
Frank, Peter,

could you please try to write in english, please, to make anybody understand
your problems AND your solutions?

Bye, Joe

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
I'm building a vocabulary for a translator appl I'm working on.

I need a lot of words used by programmers that are't in the files
I have to work with.  At the moment, I have nearly 30,000 words in
German w/ "mostly appropriate" English (U.S. style) translations.

A large number of the words I have do not have translations & many
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I'd appreciate it very much if any of our German-speaking friends
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unisex with everything.

I have several translator programs... one cost me $160.  NONE of these
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Help would be greatly appreciated!
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List Member BDD <BrentDeck@compuserve.com> wrote:

> 'This entry (with "SCRNSAVE:") MUST be:
> $DESCR SCRNSAVE: MySaver



Hello Roland,

Thanks for the info.

One more item: =


The SDK says to use DefScreenSaverProc() rather than DefWindowsProc() as
the default event handler.

=46rom the little bit published about DefScreenSaverProc(), it does not
appear to do anything that would justify its existence. =


Do you know if there is really any reason to use DefScreenSaverProc(). (I=
t
does not appear to be supported by GFA)

Thanks,

Brent
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
I received this from Roshan Sharma. I want to thank whoever answered his
question and solved his problem.
Dale

----- Original Message -----
From: Roshan L. Sharma <rsharma@post.cis.smu.edu>
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Sent: Thursday, May 20, 1999 7:59 AM
Subject: Re: MAIL LIST


> Dear Dale:
> You may solved my problem. I should always compile my source code
> with WGEN.EXE. The resulting code was 258Kbytes instead of the
> 194Kbytes resulting from the direct compile code from the GFA-Edit
> window. I will be sending the larger code to my website that probably
> includes the gfarun10.dll. Thanks again.
>
> Roshan L. Sharma
> Roshan L. Sharma <rsharma@mail.smu.edu>
> 214-691-6790 <voice>
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List Member J.Burgmeier@t-online.de (Juergen Burgmeier) wrote:
Attached to this mail is a solution for using Common Dialog Boxes
even on Win NT.
++++ GFA Online
   Attached: dlgopn32.zip (2.072 Bytes, created 05/19/1999)
          Content: dlgopn32.lst, 5.632 Bytes
_________________________________________________________________

Thanks to GFA Support,
Here are my observations on NT 4.0:
1) A message "This program requires Win32!" has been generated
and the program has been quitted.
2) If canceling the first switch, the DlgOpen Dialog Box works fine,
but using the OFN Param
ofn32.Flags32= OFN_PATHMUSTEXIST | OFN_OVERWRITEPROMPT | $00200000 ( to
simulate GFA DLG SAVE )
there is no overwrite prompt.
Maybe somebody has an idea to overcome the problem
---
My goal is keep to the file management routines small and simple as
possible,
because I only need very few functions. So further file handling should
be made
with short DOS names in GFA procedures First success has been achieved
by
adding the kernel function
DECL LONG GetShortPathName(L,L,L,L,L,L) AS 517 and following
the ideas of Roland Walter
The remaining problem is to generate a long name file, because the
function
~WritePrivateProfileString("",0,0,file$)
is not working on NT
I discovered in BASIC32.GFW from John Findlay / Sjouke Hamstra
a kernel function CreateFile (l,l,l,l,l,l,l) which might solve the
problem, but
it seems to be rather complicated.
Any help is appreciated.
Thanks Juergen

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Juergen,

You might find then Win32 API OpenFile a bit less complicated but you sti=
ll
have to use 32 bit functions for long file names.

Attached is a suite of calls to handle long file names. If you don't like=

using them in your code, (too complicated) you could put them in a DLL.
This would as least make them appear simpler. . .

 ^CreateFile32(lpzFileName%, iAttribute%)
 ^OpenFile32(lpzFileName%, lpOpenBuff%, lMode%)
 ^Open_File32(lpzFileName%, iReadWrite%)
 ^FileExist32(lpzFileName%)
 ^CloseFile32(lhFile%)
 ^ReadFile32(lhFile%, lpBuffer%, lBytes%)
 ^WriteFile32(lhFile%, lpBuffer%, lBytes%)
 ^Seek32(lhFile%, lOffset%, iOrigin%)
 ^SizeFile32(lhFile%)

John

HFILE _lopen(
    LPCSTR  lpPathName, // address of name of file to open  =

    int  iReadWrite     // file access mode =

   );

HFILE _lcreat(
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    int  iAttribute     // file attribute =

   );

long _hwrite(
    HFILE  hFile,       // handle of file =

    LPCSTR  lpBuffer,   // address of buffer for data to be written  =

    long  lBytes        // number of bytes to write =

   );

long _hread(
    HFILE  hFile,       // handle of file =

    LPVOID  lpBuffer,   // address of buffer for read data =

    long  lBytes        // length, in bytes, of data buffer =

   );

LONG _llseek(
    HFILE  hFile,       // handle of file =

    LONG  lOffset,      // number of bytes to move  =

    int  iOrigin        // position to move from =

   );

HFILE _lclose(
    HFILE  hFile        // handle of file to close  =

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List Member John Findlay <Jayef@compuserve.com> wrote:


The last function in the attached listing was corrupted I think. It shoul=
d
be;

FUNCTION  SizeFile32(lhFile%)
  LOCAL LOF%, FILE_END% =3D 2
  LOF% =3D  @Seek32(lhFile%, 0, FILE_END%)
  ~@Seek32(lhFile%, -LOF%, FILE_END%)
  RETURN LOF%
ENDFUNC


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Subject: Re: [gfabasic] Handling  Long File Names in GFABASIC on  NT ?
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Juergen,

Opps, I found another error sorry. I hope the present listing is OK.

John

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OPENW #1, 2, 2, 600, 400, ~15

@Init()

DIM Filter$(20)
Filter$(0) =3D "Text",Filter$(1) =3D "*.TXT"
Filter$(2) =3D "Listing",Filter$(3) =3D "*.LST"
Filter$(4) =3D ""
File$ =3D "c:\longfilename.txt" + CHR$(0)

DLG SAVE WIN(1),OFN_LONGNAMES% | OFN_EXPLORER% | OFN_PATHMUSTEXIST, "Save=
 a file","c:\","TXT",Filter$(),File$
PEEKEVENT

IF LEN(File$)

  File$ =3D File$ + CHR$(0)
  buff$ =3D "0 Normal (can be read from or written to without restriction=
)." + CHR$(0)
  lhFile% =3D @CreateFile32(V:File$, 0)

  PRINT "Bytes sent to " + ZTRIM$(File$), @WriteFile32(lhFile%, V:buff$, =
LEN(buff$) - 1)
  ~@CloseFile32(lhFile%)

  IF @FileExist32(V:zFile$)

    lhFile% =3D @Open_File32(V:File$, OF_READ)

    IF lhFile%

      lSize% =3D @SizeFile32(lhFile%)
      buffer$ =3D SPACE$(lSize%)

      PRINT "Read back from " + ZTRIM$(File$), @ReadFile32(lhFile%, V:buf=
fer$, lSize%)
      PRINT buffer$

      ~@CloseFile32(lhFile%)

    ENDIF
  ELSE
    ~MessageBox(WIN(1), "Could not find file", "Message", MB_OK)
  ENDIF

ENDIF

PRINT
PRINT "Press a key"
KEYGET l%
@Cleanup()

PROCEDURE Init()

  TYPE OFSTRUCT:
  - BYTE cBytes
  - BYTE fFixedDisk
  - WORD nErrCode
  - WORD Reserved1
  - WORD Reserved2
  - CHAR*265 szPathName$
  ENDTYPE

  FILE_ATTRIBUTE_ARCHIVE%       =3D $00000020
  FILE_ATTRIBUTE_DIRECTORY%     =3D $00000010
  FILE_ATTRIBUTE_HIDDEN%        =3D $00000002
  FILE_ATTRIBUTE_NORMAL%        =3D $00000080
  FILE_ATTRIBUTE_READONLY%      =3D $00000001
  FILE_ATTRIBUTE_SYSTEM%        =3D $00000004
  FILE_ATTRIBUTE_TEMPORARY%     =3D $00000100
  FILE_ATTRIBUTE_ATOMIC_WRITE%  =3D $00000200
  FILE_ATTRIBUTE_XACTION_WRITE% =3D $00000400
  //------------------------------------------------------------
  OFN_LONGNAMES%          =3D $00200000
  OFN_NOLONGNAMES%        =3D $00040000
  OFN_EXPLORER%           =3D $00080000
  OFN_NODEREFERENCELINKS% =3D $00100000

  '=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
  ' Declare WOW functions from the 16-bit kernel
  '=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
  DLL #1,"kernel"
    DECL DWORD LoadLibraryEx32W(l,l,l)
    DECL BOOL  FreeLibrary32W(l)
    DECL DWORD GetProcAddress32W(l,l)
    DECL DWORD GetVDMPointer32W(l,w)
  ENDDLL

  '=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
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=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
  ' Address of CallProc32W
  '=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
  lpf32% =3D GetProcAddress(GetModuleHandle("kernel"), "CallProc32W")

  '=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
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=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
  ' Load 32 bit libraries.
  '=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
  hkernel32% =3D ^LoadLibraryEx32W("kernel32.dll", 0, 0)

RETURN

PROCEDURE Cleanup()
  IF hkernel32% THEN ~^FreeLibrary32W(hkernel32%)
  FREEDLL 1
  CLOSEW #1
  EDIT
RETURN

FUNCTION  CloseFile32(lhFile%)
  ladr% =3D ^GetProcAddress32W(hkernel32%, "_lclose")
  RETURN P:(lpf32%)(L:lhFile%, L:ladr%, L:%0, L:1)
ENDFUNC

FUNCTION  CreateFile32(lpzFileName%, iAttribute%)
  ladr% =3D ^GetProcAddress32W(hkernel32%, "_lcreat")
  RETURN P:(lpf32%)(L:lpzFileName%, L:iAttribute%, L:ladr%, L:%10, L:2)
ENDFUNC

FUNCTION  ReadFile32(lhFile%, lpBuffer%, lBytes%)
  ladr% =3D ^GetProcAddress32W(hkernel32%, "_hread")
  RETURN P:(lpf32%)(L:lhFile%, L:lpBuffer%, L:lBytes%, L:ladr%, L:%010, L=
:3)
ENDFUNC

FUNCTION  WriteFile32(lhFile%, lpBuffer%, lBytes%)
  ladr% =3D ^GetProcAddress32W(hkernel32%, "_hwrite")
  RETURN P:(lpf32%)(L:lhFile%, L:lpBuffer%, L:lBytes%,L:ladr%, L:%010, L:=
3)
ENDFUNC

FUNCTION  FileExist32(lpzFileName%)
  LOCAL lFile
  OFSTRUCT: of.
  l% =3D @OpenFile32(lpzFileName%, *of., OF_EXIST)
  IF of.nErrCode =3D 0
    ERASE of.
    RETURN 1
  ELSE
    ERASE of.
    RETURN 0
  ENDIF
ENDFUNC

FUNCTION  OpenFile32(lpzFileName%, lpOpenBuff%, lMode%)
  ladr% =3D ^GetProcAddress32W(hkernel32%, "OpenFile")
  RETURN P:(lpf32%)(L:lpzFileName%, L:lpOpenBuff%, L:lMode%, L:ladr%, L:%=
110, L:3)
ENDFUNC

FUNCTION  Open_File32(lpzFileName%, iReadWrite%)
  ladr% =3D ^GetProcAddress32W(hkernel32%, "_lopen")
  RETURN P:(lpf32%)(L:lpzFileName%, L:iReadWrite%, L:ladr%, L:%10, L:2)
ENDFUNC

FUNCTION  Seek32(lhFile%, lOffset%, iOrigin%)
  ladr% =3D ^GetProcAddress32W(hkernel32%, "_llseek")
  RETURN P:(lpf32%)(L:lhFile%, L:lOffset%, L:iOrigin%, L:ladr%, L:%0, L:3=
)
ENDFUNC

FUNCTION  SizeFile32(lhFile%)
  LOCAL LOF%, FILE_END% =3D 2
  LOF% =3D  @Seek32(lhFile%, 0, FILE_END%)
  ~@Seek32(lhFile%, -LOF%, FILE_END%)
  RETURN LOF%
ENDFUNC

PROCEDURE Dummy()
RETURN

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Have you ever had a bad day?

I having one!

Last time I promise - if there's anything else wrong, it'll have to remai=
n
wrong.

John

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OPENW #1, 2, 2, 600, 400, ~15

@Init()

DIM Filter$(20)
Filter$(0) =3D "Text",Filter$(1) =3D "*.TXT"
Filter$(2) =3D "Listing",Filter$(3) =3D "*.LST"
Filter$(4) =3D ""
File$ =3D "c:\longfilename.txt" + CHR$(0)

DLG SAVE WIN(1),OFN_LONGNAMES% | OFN_EXPLORER% | OFN_PATHMUSTEXIST, "Save=
 a file","c:\","TXT",Filter$(),File$
PEEKEVENT

IF LEN(File$)

  File$ =3D File$ + CHR$(0)
  buff$ =3D "0 Normal (can be read from or written to without restriction=
)." + CHR$(0)
  lhFile% =3D @CreateFile32(V:File$, 0)

  PRINT "Bytes sent to " + ZTRIM$(File$), @WriteFile32(lhFile%, V:buff$, =
LEN(buff$) - 1)
  ~@CloseFile32(lhFile%)

  IF @FileExist32(V:File$)

    lhFile% =3D @Open_File32(V:File$, OF_READ)

    IF lhFile%

      lSize% =3D @SizeFile32(lhFile%)
      buffer$ =3D SPACE$(lSize%)

      PRINT "Read back from " + ZTRIM$(File$), @ReadFile32(lhFile%, V:buf=
fer$, lSize%)
      PRINT buffer$

      ~@CloseFile32(lhFile%)

    ENDIF
  ELSE
    ~MessageBox(WIN(1), "Could not find file", "Message", MB_OK)
  ENDIF

ENDIF

PRINT
PRINT "Press a key"
KEYGET l%
@Cleanup()

PROCEDURE Init()

  TYPE OFSTRUCT:
  - BYTE cBytes
  - BYTE fFixedDisk
  - WORD nErrCode
  - WORD Reserved1
  - WORD Reserved2
  - CHAR*265 szPathName$
  ENDTYPE

  FILE_ATTRIBUTE_ARCHIVE%       =3D $00000020
  FILE_ATTRIBUTE_DIRECTORY%     =3D $00000010
  FILE_ATTRIBUTE_HIDDEN%        =3D $00000002
  FILE_ATTRIBUTE_NORMAL%        =3D $00000080
  FILE_ATTRIBUTE_READONLY%      =3D $00000001
  FILE_ATTRIBUTE_SYSTEM%        =3D $00000004
  FILE_ATTRIBUTE_TEMPORARY%     =3D $00000100
  FILE_ATTRIBUTE_ATOMIC_WRITE%  =3D $00000200
  FILE_ATTRIBUTE_XACTION_WRITE% =3D $00000400
  //------------------------------------------------------------
  OFN_LONGNAMES%          =3D $00200000
  OFN_NOLONGNAMES%        =3D $00040000
  OFN_EXPLORER%           =3D $00080000
  OFN_NODEREFERENCELINKS% =3D $00100000

  '=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
  ' Declare WOW functions from the 16-bit kernel
  '=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
  DLL #1,"kernel"
    DECL DWORD LoadLibraryEx32W(l,l,l)
    DECL BOOL  FreeLibrary32W(l)
    DECL DWORD GetProcAddress32W(l,l)
    DECL DWORD GetVDMPointer32W(l,w)
  ENDDLL

  '=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
  ' Address of CallProc32W
  '=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
  lpf32% =3D GetProcAddress(GetModuleHandle("kernel"), "CallProc32W")

  '=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
  ' Load 32 bit libraries.
  '=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
  hkernel32% =3D ^LoadLibraryEx32W("kernel32.dll", 0, 0)

RETURN

PROCEDURE Cleanup()
  IF hkernel32% THEN ~^FreeLibrary32W(hkernel32%)
  FREEDLL 1
  CLOSEW #1
  EDIT
RETURN

FUNCTION  CloseFile32(lhFile%)
  ladr% =3D ^GetProcAddress32W(hkernel32%, "_lclose")
  RETURN P:(lpf32%)(L:lhFile%, L:ladr%, L:%0, L:1)
ENDFUNC

FUNCTION  CreateFile32(lpzFileName%, iAttribute%)
  ladr% =3D ^GetProcAddress32W(hkernel32%, "_lcreat")
  RETURN P:(lpf32%)(L:lpzFileName%, L:iAttribute%, L:ladr%, L:%10, L:2)
ENDFUNC

FUNCTION  ReadFile32(lhFile%, lpBuffer%, lBytes%)
  ladr% =3D ^GetProcAddress32W(hkernel32%, "_hread")
  RETURN P:(lpf32%)(L:lhFile%, L:lpBuffer%, L:lBytes%, L:ladr%, L:%010, L=
:3)
ENDFUNC

FUNCTION  WriteFile32(lhFile%, lpBuffer%, lBytes%)
  ladr% =3D ^GetProcAddress32W(hkernel32%, "_hwrite")
  RETURN P:(lpf32%)(L:lhFile%, L:lpBuffer%, L:lBytes%,L:ladr%, L:%010, L:=
3)
ENDFUNC

FUNCTION  FileExist32(lpzFileName%)
  LOCAL lFile
  OFSTRUCT: of.
  l% =3D @OpenFile32(lpzFileName%, *of., OF_EXIST)
  IF of.nErrCode =3D 0
    ERASE of.
    RETURN 1
  ELSE
    ERASE of.
    RETURN 0
  ENDIF
ENDFUNC

FUNCTION  OpenFile32(lpzFileName%, lpOpenBuff%, lMode%)
  ladr% =3D ^GetProcAddress32W(hkernel32%, "OpenFile")
  RETURN P:(lpf32%)(L:lpzFileName%, L:lpOpenBuff%, L:lMode%, L:ladr%, L:%=
110, L:3)
ENDFUNC

FUNCTION  Open_File32(lpzFileName%, iReadWrite%)
  ladr% =3D ^GetProcAddress32W(hkernel32%, "_lopen")
  RETURN P:(lpf32%)(L:lpzFileName%, L:iReadWrite%, L:ladr%, L:%10, L:2)
ENDFUNC

FUNCTION  Seek32(lhFile%, lOffset%, iOrigin%)
  ladr% =3D ^GetProcAddress32W(hkernel32%, "_llseek")
  RETURN P:(lpf32%)(L:lhFile%, L:lOffset%, L:iOrigin%, L:ladr%, L:%0, L:3=
)
ENDFUNC

FUNCTION  SizeFile32(lhFile%)
  LOCAL LOF%, FILE_END% =3D 2
  LOF% =3D  @Seek32(lhFile%, 0, FILE_END%)
  ~@Seek32(lhFile%, -LOF%, FILE_END%)
  RETURN LOF%
ENDFUNC

PROCEDURE Dummy()
RETURN

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List Member "EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" <JoeHurst@snafu.de> wrote:
Ok, Tom, I will not check your 30.000 words. But I give you a tip I use in my
own translater:
First, the whole sentence is searched in the database - if there is a
translation, no single-word-way is needed.
If not, parts of the sentence (two or more words) are searched and eventually
translated.
At last, there is a single word translation.

First, it is very hard to translate very much stuff to get a database. But, as
time goes by, the database grows...

Bye, Joe

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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Hi John,
I get a file not found with this one.
Dale

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Juergen,

Opps, I found another error sorry. I hope the present listing is OK.

John



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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
HI John,
Some code is missing in this one.
Dale

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Subject: Re: [gfabasic] Handling Long File Names in GFABASIC on NT ?



Juergen,

You might find then Win32 API OpenFile a bit less complicated but you still
have to use 32 bit functions for long file names.

Attached is a suite of calls to handle long file names. If you don't like
using them in your code, (too complicated) you could put them in a DLL.
This would as least make them appear simpler. . .

 ^CreateFile32(lpzFileName%, iAttribute%)
 ^OpenFile32(lpzFileName%, lpOpenBuff%, lMode%)
 ^Open_File32(lpzFileName%, iReadWrite%)
 ^FileExist32(lpzFileName%)
 ^CloseFile32(lhFile%)
 ^ReadFile32(lhFile%, lpBuffer%, lBytes%)
 ^WriteFile32(lhFile%, lpBuffer%, lBytes%)
 ^Seek32(lhFile%, lOffset%, iOrigin%)
 ^SizeFile32(lhFile%)

John

HFILE _lopen(
    LPCSTR  lpPathName, // address of name of file to open  
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HFILE _lcreat(
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long _hwrite(
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long _hread(
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   );

LONG _llseek(
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Thank you, Joe.
One problem inherent to this idea...
Nothing I have by way of translators respects grammer... the basic method of
grammer in the "from" language is applied to the "to" language.  Meaning...
translation is occuring word by word no matter what.

You are correct in advising setting up a db of terms & commands, yes sir!
But... with what?  I've become so very weary of trying to translate things
to English that I look for key words & skip the rest.  What I have now has
great problems with words being joined by hyphens (-) & just skips them.  If
I'm to translate Roland Walter's source, I first have to spend hours searching
out all of these & adding spaces in place of the hyphens.

Then, there's the problem of the use of unrecognized words.  Perhaps I'm just 
too stupid to read & follow directions but I've been unable to add words to
any of the various appls' vocabularies or dictionaries, so... I'm off trying
to do one of my own.
<G>
TomR.


At 05:58 PM 21/05/99 +0200, you wrote:
>List Member "EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" <JoeHurst@snafu.de> wrote:
>Ok, Tom, I will not check your 30.000 words. But I give you a tip I use in my
>own translater:
>First, the whole sentence is searched in the database - if there is a
>translation, no single-word-way is needed.
>If not, parts of the sentence (two or more words) are searched and eventually
>translated.
>At last, there is a single word translation.
>
>First, it is very hard to translate very much stuff to get a database. But, as
>time goes by, the database grows...
>
>Bye, Joe
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Dale,

>Some code is missing in this one.<

Which one? :) You should try to determine the last one sent.

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List Member Peter_Harder@nf.maus.de (Peter Harder) wrote:

Hallo all!

How can i create with my GFA16-Setup a LNK-File, so that I can start after
a installation an applikation from the Win 95/98/NT-Desktop?

I have the (very good) "ctrltool.dll" from Eberhard Funk and I've had a
look at the Homepage from Dale, but I don't find an example.


Kind regards from North-Germany
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List Member "EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" <JoeHurst@snafu.de> wrote:
> But... with what?
Buy a small book ("German for american terrorists" :-) ) to get a good stock of
contents for the database.

> to English that I look for key words & skip the rest.  What I have now has
> great problems with words being joined by hyphens (-) & just skips them.
There is a "mathmatical" way.
Remove all double-spaces in the sentence, and every interpunctation except than
"-".
Check for "-" and find the word before and behind "-".
Combine both to one word and find them in the database. If the word exists,
remove the "-" from the sentence.

> any of the various appls' vocabularies or dictionaries, so... I'm off trying
> to do one of my own.
That's it.

Grammar: Translating complete sentences frees you from the problems with
grammar.

Bye, Joe

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List Member J.Burgmeier@t-online.de (Juergen Burgmeier) wrote:
Hi John,
Thanks a lot for your proposal.
You are right, at the first glance your proposed Win32 OpenFile seems to
be less complicated. But I am pretty sure that your attached code will not work
on NT.
I only can check it out next week.
Reason: I already tested DLG SAVE / OPEN with the flag OFN_LONGNAMES%.
Actually it doesn't switch the dialog box to long names on NT  (it's ok on
W95/98).
I didn't append CHR$(0) to the File$ string, maybe this makes a difference. I'll
see.

Question: Are you sure that the idea of working with short file names is not
realizable
on NT, even for a limited set of file operations ?
For example by using the function (based on GFABAS04 from R.Walter)

FUNCTION MakeShort$(LongName$)
ShortName$=STRING$(256,0)
~^GetShortPathName
(LongName$,V:ShortName$,LEN(LongName$),C_GetShortPathName%,%110,3)
RETURN ZTRIM$(ShortName$)
ENDFUNC

I think, the charm of GFABASIC16 providing an allround language with a
reasonable
speed for efficient numerical & string routines in combination with a simple
file management
on the one hand and also suitable for occasional ad-hoc programming on the other
hand
is suffering a lot when including 32 bit applications / handling of long file
names
especially on WinNT. But that's life. So I'm looking forward to GFABASIC32.
Regards Juergen


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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Hi,
Any one that speaks German can you tell me how close the translation belo=
w
came out. Can you understand it?
Dale Bryant


Hi Peter,
I have your picture but I need some information so I can post your pictur=
e
on the GFAWHELP programmers page.

Name - I already have that
City that you live in
Country that you live in
Your main Interest in GFA programming
Some personal facts if you desire
Email Address - I already have that
Web page URL
*****************************
Hallo Peter,
Ich habe Ihr Bild, aber ich brauche irgendeine Informationen so, ich kann
Ihr Bild auf der GFAWHELP Programmierer Seite ankleben.

Name-ich habe das schon
Stadt, in der Sie wohnen,
Land, in dem Sie wohnen,
Ihr Haupt Interesse an GFA Programmierung
Einige pers=F6nliche Tatsachen, wenn Sie w=FCnschen,
E-mail-Adresse-ich alreay haben tha
Spinnwebe-Seite URL

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List Member "Eberhard Funck" <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de> wrote:
Hi Dale,
I hope thats right above.

Eberhard
-----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----
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Betreff: [gfabasic] TRANSLATION


>List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
>Hi,
>Any one that speaks German can you tell me how close the translation bel=
ow
>came out. Can you understand it?
>Dale Bryant
>
>
>Hi Peter,
>I have your picture but I need some information so I can post your pictu=
re
>on the GFAWHELP programmers page.
>
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>Email Address - I already have that
>Web page URL
>*****************************
>Hallo Peter,
>Ich habe Ihr Bild, aber ich brauche irgendeine Informationen, so da=DF i=
ch
>Ihr Bild auf der GFAWHELP Programmierer Seite einstzten kann.
>
>Name: ist vorhanden
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>Land, in dem Sie wohnen,
>Ihr Haupt-Interesse an GFA Programmierung
>Einige pers=F6nliche Angaben, wenn Sie es w=FCnschen,
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List Member John Findlay <Jayef@compuserve.com> wrote:

Juergen,

>Actually it doesn't switch the dialog box to long names on NT  (it's ok =
on
W95/98).<

Ah! I can't help then. I only run Win98 and didn't realise there would be=

such differences.

Perhaps Eberhard could help, he runs NT I think.

Regards,

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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Thanks Eberhard.
Dale

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> List Member "Eberhard Funck" <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de> wrote:
> Hi Dale,
> I hope thats right above.
>
> Eberhard
> -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Dale Bryant <adbryant@email.msn.com>
> An: GFA Messages <gfabasic@gfa.net>
> Datum: Samstag, 22. Mai 1999 21:37
> Betreff: [gfabasic] TRANSLATION
>
>
> >List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> >Hi,
> >Any one that speaks German can you tell me how close the translation
below
> >came out. Can you understand it?
> >Dale Bryant
> >
> >
> >Hi Peter,
> >I have your picture but I need some information so I can post your
picture
> >on the GFAWHELP programmers page.
> >
> >Name - I already have that
> >City that you live in
> >Country that you live in
> >Your main Interest in GFA programming
> >Some personal facts if you desire
> >Email Address - I already have that
> >Web page URL
> >*****************************
> >Hallo Peter,
> >Ich habe Ihr Bild, aber ich brauche irgendeine Informationen, so da=DF=
 ich
> >Ihr Bild auf der GFAWHELP Programmierer Seite einstzten kann.
> >
> >Name: ist vorhanden
> >Stadt, in der Sie wohnen,
> >Land, in dem Sie wohnen,
> >Ihr Haupt-Interesse an GFA Programmierung
> >Einige pers=F6nliche Angaben, wenn Sie es w=FCnschen,
> >E-mail-Adresse: habe ich auch schon
> >WEB Page URL, wenn vorhanden
> >
> >Dale Bryant
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Peter
Hello from Oklahoma, U.S.A.
Check in with somebody that has the 32-bit SDK.  A *.lnk may or may
NOT be 32-bit, but isn't used on 16-bit systems.  It is the Win95
version of a *.pif file.  Writing one shouldn't be hard if you can
see the components that make it up.  I'm sorry, but I don't have the
32-bit SDK.

Oh... check with Wotsit:
http://www.wotsit.org/
They will have the format available.

<G>
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At 04:50 PM 22/05/99 +0200, you wrote:
>List Member Peter_Harder@nf.maus.de (Peter Harder) wrote:
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>Hallo all!
>
>How can i create with my GFA16-Setup a LNK-File, so that I can start after
>a installation an applikation from the Win 95/98/NT-Desktop?
>
>I have the (very good) "ctrltool.dll" from Eberhard Funk and I've had a
>look at the Homepage from Dale, but I don't find an example.
>
>
>Kind regards from North-Germany
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List Member "Eberhard Funck" <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de> wrote:
Hi all LNK - Fans,

Here a little cutting out about the function "How I create a link":

HRESULT CreateLink (LpszPathObj, lpszPathLink, lpszDecription)

 HRESULT hres
 IShellLink* psl

 /* find out pointer to IShellLink
 hres = CoCreateInstance (&CLSID_ShellLink, NULL, CLSCTX_INOPROC_SERVER,
                                               &IID_IShellLink, &psl)

   IF hres
        /* set Path to the destination link and take over the description
        lPersistFile* ppf /* can not translate
        psl->lpVtbl->SetPath(psl, lpszPathObj)
        psl->lpVtbl->SetDescription(psl, lpszDesc)

        /* ask IShellLink for the (cutting place) IPersistFile for saving
the lnk to
        /* persisting medium????
        hres = psl->lpVtbl->QueryInterface(psl, &IID_IPersistFile, &ppf)

        IF hres
             WORD wsz[MAX_PATH]

             MultiByteToWideChar(CP_ACP, 0, lpszPathLink, -1, wsz, MAX_PATH)

             /* Save the lnk with IPersistFile::Save
             hres = ppf->lpVtbl->Save(ppf, wsz, TRUE)
             ppf->lpVtbl->Release(ppf)

        ENDIF
   ENDIF

RETURN hres

End of function

We all can now create links.

Happy Whitsuntide.

Eberhard




>List Member Peter_Harder@nf.maus.de (Peter Harder) wrote:
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>Hallo all!
>
>How can i create with my GFA16-Setup a LNK-File, so that I can start after
>a installation an applikation from the Win 95/98/NT-Desktop?
>
>I have the (very good) "ctrltool.dll" from Eberhard Funk and I've had a
>look at the Homepage from Dale, but I don't find an example.
>
>
>Kind regards from North-Germany
>                                 Peter
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List Member Peter_Harder@nf.maus.de (Peter Harder) wrote:

Hallo Eberhard,

you wrote:

EF> We all can now create links.

Sorry, but I don't can.
What language is your listing?
How can I translate it into GFA-Basic?


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List Member John Findlay <Jayef@compuserve.com> wrote:

Eberhard,

>We all can now create links.<


It's good to know that you've sorted it! :-)

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List Member "Eberhard Funck" <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de> wrote:
Hi Peter,

My answer of your question:
>
>Sorry, but I don't can.

I also not.

>What language is your listing?

It's C, or it's C++.  How can tell us?

>How can I translate it into GFA-Basic?

You can translate C - scripts in GFA basic,
but in this way you work with Windows SHELL
and here you must work with "Schnittstellen".
I mean with links, pointers and so on to another SHELL functions.
It's too complicated (for me).

Now you know, it is not possible to do all thinks
with our GFA Basic.


Greetings

Eberhard


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List Member "Sjouke Hamstra" <shamstra@dds.nl> wrote:
>
> You can translate C - scripts in GFA basic,
> but in this way you work with Windows SHELL
> and here you must work with "Schnittstellen".
> I mean with links, pointers and so on to another SHELL functions.
> It's too complicated (for me).
>
> Now you know, it is not possible to do all thinks
> with our GFA Basic.
>

It's 32-bit C code. It cannot be used from 16-bit GFA. You could however
create a 32-bit DLL from C-code and call the DLL function through WOW. Doing
so would require knowledge about OLE Automation and how to use that from C
(not easy I can tell you). I have seen a solution in 32-bit VB though, it is
in HardCore Visual Basic from McKinney. It can be located in the MSDN section
of www.microsoft . However, that would require knowledge of VB and creating a
VB DLL, which would require VB5 or better. Anyway, there aren't simple
solutions. You best wait for GFA32 (whenever that will be). For BASIC
programmers GFA32 seems to be the most simple and elegant solution to Win32
OLE Automation programming.

One time last year I thought VB5 or VB6 could be THE solution for OLE
Automation (OCX) applications that heavily rely on a GUI, but VB's black code
is so unclear, that I decided to do the same project in MSVC's MFC. (I spent
two days to figure out why ALT-F4 didn't work in VB-forms without a caption.
Still don't know.) Because I have a GFA32 test version I know I could have
done the same project much easier and much faster using GFA32.

SH

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List Member "EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" <JoeHurst@snafu.de> wrote:
> EF> We all can now create links.
>
> Sorry, but I don't can.
> What language is your listing?
> How can I translate it into GFA-Basic?

The listing is "C", but the used functions of 32-bit-windows depend on
Microsofts "Stream"-technology what is heard enough to do in "C" - it would be a
masterpiece if anyone could do that with GB16.

The solution I have (in Visual Basic 5) depends on some not further explained
"secret" functions and needs some more 32-bit-DLLs and a type-library (heho,
what's that, eh?) - what, in any case, is much to "fat" for a GB16-solution.
I think here is a point where GB16 cannot help any more.

Bye, Joe

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List Member "Eberhard Funck" <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de> wrote:
It's so easy to create a shell link.

You must create a link file only.

A link file has folowing information:

1. Place (path) of the link object.
2. The working directory of the link object.
3. List of arguments, that the system delivers to the link object.
4. Display modus (SW_SHOW, SW_MINIMIZE,...)
5. Place (path and index) of the symbol of the link object.
6. Description of link object in form of text.
7. The hot key.

Thats all.
If anyone have lust to find out the right way, I wish him good luck.

Greetings

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From: John Findlay <Jayef@compuserve.com>
Subject: Re: [gfabasic] How to create a LNK-File
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List Member John Findlay <Jayef@compuserve.com> wrote:

Eberhard,

>It's C, or it's C++.  How can tell us?<

I believe it's 'C'. The following line would be different for C++;

         psl->lpVtbl->SetPath(psl, lpszPathObj)

The lpVtbl is a VTABLE to a table of offsets I think. Some one could
probably work it out. You can do this stuff in straight C so I'm sure it
could be done with GFA.

:-) However I don't know how either!

=46rom MS;

Could this be the Offsets??

DEFINE_GUID(CLSID_CDirect3DRMFrame, 0x4fa35690, 0x623f, 0x11cf, 0xac, 0x4=
a,
0x0, 0x0, 0xc0, 0x38, 0x25, 0xa1);

>>>
Pure virtual C++ functions and COM interfaces both employ a device called=
 a
vtable. A vtable contains the addresses of all functions that implement t=
he
given interface. If you want a program or object to use these functions,
you can use the QueryInterface method to verify the interface exists on a=
n
object, and to obtain a pointer to that interface. What your program or
object actually receives from the object after sending QueryInterface is =
a
pointer to the vtable, through which this method can call the interface
methods implemented by the object. This mechanism totally isolates privat=
e
data used by the object and the calling client process. =

<<<

John =

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From: "Roland Walter" <alibaba@zedat.fu-berlin.de>
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Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 19:32:08 +0200
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Subject: [gfabasic] Long filenames: The most simple and consistent way
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List Member "Roland Walter" <alibaba@zedat.fu-berlin.de> wrote:

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Hallo GFA programmers,

'We use the new long filename Interrupts or import 32 bit functions 
to work with long filenames under  Windows 95 or NT but 
(embarrassed!) there is a much more simple way...
 I have found an MS information where they told that most 16 bit 
API functions have updated to pass long filenames.
 The following functions I have tested: LoadLibrary, WinExec, 
_lopen, _lcreate, WritePrivateProfileString (..Int)
MS wrote the function OpenFile is an exception (works with short 
filenames only). But there exists the function OpenFileEx as an 
replacement for OpenFile wich works with long filenames.
Also functions wich return filenames will only give back short 
filenames for  backward compatibility. This could be (not tested): 
GetTempFileName, GetWindowsDirectory, GetSystemDirectory, 
FindExecutable, GetModuleFileName.
Because the user mostly will not see the returned names of these 
functions this should not be a problem...

Remember that there exist some new 16 bit API functions under 
Windows 95 wich You can use to handle long filenames. Examples 
are:
GetCurrentDirectory, SetCurrentDirectory, FindFirstFile, 
FindNextFile, FindClose, GetFileAttributes, SetFileAttributes, 
OpenFileEx
Also remember that You can use the flag 
OFN_LONGNAMES%=$00200000 with DLG OPEN / DLG SAVE
to get long filenames in file select boxes if Your program works 
under Windows 95. WinNT is a little bit more complicated because 
Microsoft did not implement the flag OFN_LONGNAMES in 16 bit 
COMMDLG.DLL for Windows NT. There You have to thunk the 32 
bit function GetOpenFileName (more exact: GetOpenFileNameA).
This is crazy and not to understand but it's Microsoft...

The result of all this:

If Your program is built for Windows 95 (...98) and if You for disk 
operation consequently use API functions instead of GFA Basic 
functions You must not work in roundabout ways. There is no need 
for determining the associated short filenames. Use the long 
filenames directly - that is it. Of cause You may not forget to 
determine the Windows version before start.

Bye, Roland Walter

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List Member "Russell Hayward" <tarquin@baphead.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
Hi everybody,

If anyone's sent me an e-mail over the weekend then I probably haven't received
it as my mail server's been up the creek.

> Could this be the Offsets??
>
> DEFINE_GUID(CLSID_CDirect3DRMFrame, 0x4fa35690, 0x623f, 0x11cf, 0xac, 0x4a,
0x0, 0x0, 0xc0, 0x38, 0x25, 0xa1);

Direct3D retained mode, blimey! :-)

Most of you probably knew this anyway but .LNK files can be created in the start
menu from GFA Basic (as is usual with me someone else wrote this):

DEFWRD "a-z"
OPENW #1,-300,100,200,40,0
CB WIN(1),WM_DDE_ACK,ddecb
b=GlobalAddAtom("PROGMAN")
SENDMESSAGE -1,WM_DDE_INITIATE,WIN(1),MAKELONG(b,b)
IF a=0
  MESSAGE "Unable to create Start Menu/Program Manager Entries for some
reason.","Sorry",MB_OK,x
ELSE
  stmcom$="[CreateGroup(Group Name,GROUP.GRP)]"
  stmcom$=stmcom$+"[ShowGroup(GROUP.GRP,6)]"
  stmcom$=stmcom$+"[AddItem(C:\WINDOWS\EXPLORER.EXE,Windows
Explorer,C:\WINDOWS\EXPLORER.EXE,1)]"
  stmcom$=stmcom$+"[AddItem(C:\Program Files\Internet
Explorer\IEXPLORE.EXE,Internet Explorer,C:\WINDOWS\EXPLORER.EXE,1)]"
  stmcom$=stmcom$+"[AddItem(C:\COMMAND.COM,MSDOS Prompt)]"
'  "[AddItem(PATH TO FILE, NAME OF FILE, ICON PATH, ICON NUMBER)]"
  xeq(stmcom$)
ENDIF
POSTMESSAGE a,WM_DDE_TERMINATE,WIN(1),0
~GlobalDeleteAtom(b)
CLOSEW #1

PROCEDURE xeq(a$)
  c=GlobalAlloc(GMEM_DDESHARE,LEN(a$)+1)
  CHAR{GlobalLock(c)}=a$
  ~GlobalUnlock(c)
  POSTMESSAGE a,WM_DDE_EXECUTE,WIN(1),MAKELONG(c,0)
  REPEAT                      ' wait for DDE to terminate
    PEEKEVENT
  UNTIL MENU(11)=0
  ~GlobalFree(c)
RETURN

PROCEDURE ddecb(x,y,c,a%)
  a=c
RETURN

You could then copy/move one or more of those files to the desktop, if you could
find out the path of the start menu and the path of the desktop and can get rid
of the window that appears.

Good luck :-),
Russell Hayward
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List Member Alan Lennon <alan.lennon@virgin.net> wrote:
Hi everyone

I'm trying to record WAV files using the MMSYSTEM.DLL API but have found
a problem with the waveInGetNumDevs function. On a notebook I have
running Windows95 it returns the correct number of devices and I can get
the names using waveInGetDevCaps.

The same code running on two different desktop PC's returns zero for
waveInGetNumDevs. One of the desktops is running the same build of W95
as the notebooks and the other desktop is running W98.

Anyone know anything about this odd behaviour or a reliable way of
getting the device ID's and names?

On another subject I have a resource leak in one of my programs which I
traced to use of the GFA MESSAGEBOX command. Opening a messagebox uses
GDI resources which appear not to be released when the messagebox is
closed. I changed to the messagebox API call but the resource leak
remained. Anyone else noticed this or have I done something stupid??

Best Regards     Alan Lennon

PS Good job I proof read this post....at one point there was a
MASSAGEBOX in there :-)

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>On another subject I have a resource leak in one of my programs which I
>traced to use of the GFA MESSAGEBOX command. Opening a messagebox uses
>GDI resources which appear not to be released when the messagebox is
>closed. I changed to the messagebox API call but the resource leak
>remained. Anyone else noticed this or have I done something stupid??
>
>Best Regards     Alan Lennon
>
>PS Good job I proof read this post....at one point there was a
>MASSAGEBOX in there :-)
>

Well...
I would have bet on a MASSAGEBOX maybe causing a leak of *some* kind,
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Hi,

Does/can Windows have a ram disk? I can find no reference of one but
someone mentioned it a few weeks ago here on this mailing list.

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List Member "Eberhard Funck" <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de> wrote:
Hi John,

With: device=C:\WINDOWS\ramdrive.sys 200 512
in the Config.sys file you create a ram disk.

Windows recognize it as such a ram disk. You can see it
at the Windows ram disk symbol. I had create one for trying
my FileSelectBox in the CtrlTool.dll or GfaTool1.dll.

Greetings

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>someone mentioned it a few weeks ago here on this mailing list.
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List Member Sven Kumlin <sven.kumlin@hem.utfors.se> wrote:
Very interesting! But what about the size of the RAM-disk?
Sven Kumlin

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>List Member "Eberhard Funck" <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de> wrote:
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>
>With: device=3DC:\WINDOWS\ramdrive.sys 200 512
>in the Config.sys file you create a ram disk.
>
>Windows recognize it as such a ram disk. You can see it
>at the Windows ram disk symbol. I had create one for trying
>my FileSelectBox in the CtrlTool.dll or GfaTool1.dll.
>
>Greetings
>
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>
>>
>>Does/can Windows have a ram disk? I can find no reference of one but
>>someone mentioned it a few weeks ago here on this mailing list.
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Hello Eberhard,

> device=3DC:\WINDOWS\ramdrive.sys 200 512 <

Thanks, I'll check it out.

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List Member "Eberhard Funck" <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de> wrote:
Hi Sven,

device=3DC:\WINDOWS\ramdrive.sys 200 512

Old DOS says: ramdrive.sys [size in kB] [sector size in kB]

Eberhard



>List Member Sven Kumlin <sven.kumlin@hem.utfors.se> wrote:
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>>List Member "Eberhard Funck" <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de> wrote:
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>>
>>With: device=3DC:\WINDOWS\ramdrive.sys 200 512
>>in the Config.sys file you create a ram disk.
>>
>>Windows recognize it as such a ram disk. You can see it
>>at the Windows ram disk symbol. I had create one for trying
>>my FileSelectBox in the CtrlTool.dll or GfaTool1.dll.
>>
>>Greetings
>>
>>Eberhard
>>
>>>
>>>Does/can Windows have a ram disk? I can find no reference of one but
>>>someone mentioned it a few weeks ago here on this mailing list.
>>>
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Hi,
I tried this and it locked up my computer. I had to boot to the DOS promp=
t
to remove it from the CONFIG.SYS file.
Dale

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> List Member "Eberhard Funck" <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de> wrote:
> Hi Sven,
>
> device=3DC:\WINDOWS\ramdrive.sys 200 512
>
> Old DOS says: ramdrive.sys [size in kB] [sector size in kB]
>
> Eberhard
>
>
>
> >List Member Sven Kumlin <sven.kumlin@hem.utfors.se> wrote:
> >Very interesting! But what about the size of the RAM-disk?
> >Sven Kumlin
> >
> >-----Ursprungligt meddelande-----
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> >=C4mne: Re: [gfabasic] RAM DISK?
> >
> >
> >>List Member "Eberhard Funck" <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de> wrote:
> >>Hi John,
> >>
> >>With: device=3DC:\WINDOWS\ramdrive.sys 200 512
> >>in the Config.sys file you create a ram disk.
> >>
> >>Windows recognize it as such a ram disk. You can see it
> >>at the Windows ram disk symbol. I had create one for trying
> >>my FileSelectBox in the CtrlTool.dll or GfaTool1.dll.
> >>
> >>Greetings
> >>
> >>Eberhard
> >>
> >>>
> >>>Does/can Windows have a ram disk? I can find no reference of one but
> >>>someone mentioned it a few weeks ago here on this mailing list.
> >>>
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Dale
Mebbeso Win98 UPGRADE over 95?
W95a likes it just fine, altho it's:
 Old DOS says: ramdrive.sys [size in kB] [sector size in B],
not:
 Old DOS says: ramdrive.sys [size in kB] [sector size in kB]
<G>
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>List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
>Hi,
>I tried this and it locked up my computer. I had to boot to the DOS prompt
>to remove it from the CONFIG.SYS file.
>Dale
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Eberhard Funck <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de>
>To: <gfabasic@gfa.net>
>Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 1999 10:25 AM
>Subject: Re: [gfabasic] SV: RAM DISK?
>
>
>> List Member "Eberhard Funck" <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de> wrote:
>> Hi Sven,
>>
>> device=3DC:\WINDOWS\ramdrive.sys 200 512
>>
>> Old DOS says: ramdrive.sys [size in kB] [sector size in kB]
>>
>> Eberhard
>>
>>
>>
>> >List Member Sven Kumlin <sven.kumlin@hem.utfors.se> wrote:
>> >Very interesting! But what about the size of the RAM-disk?
>> >Sven Kumlin
>> >
>> >-----Ursprungligt meddelande-----
>> >Fr=E5n: Eberhard Funck <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de>
>> >Till: gfabasic@gfa.net <gfabasic@gfa.net>
>> >Datum: den 26 maj 1999 17:06
>> >=C4mne: Re: [gfabasic] RAM DISK?
>> >
>> >
>> >>List Member "Eberhard Funck" <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de> wrote:
>> >>Hi John,
>> >>
>> >>With: device=3DC:\WINDOWS\ramdrive.sys 200 512
>> >>in the Config.sys file you create a ram disk.
>> >>
>> >>Windows recognize it as such a ram disk. You can see it
>> >>at the Windows ram disk symbol. I had create one for trying
>> >>my FileSelectBox in the CtrlTool.dll or GfaTool1.dll.
>> >>
>> >>Greetings
>> >>
>> >>Eberhard
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>>Does/can Windows have a ram disk? I can find no reference of one but
>> >>>someone mentioned it a few weeks ago here on this mailing list.
>> >>>
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>I tried this and it locked up my computer.<

It worked on mine. (Win98)

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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Hi Tom,
No, I am running WIN95. Perhaps I put it in wrong. I will try it again an=
d
see.
Dale

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Subject: Re: [gfabasic] SV: RAM DISK?


List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote=
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Dale
Mebbeso Win98 UPGRADE over 95?
W95a likes it just fine, altho it's:
 Old DOS says: ramdrive.sys [size in kB] [sector size in B],
not:
 Old DOS says: ramdrive.sys [size in kB] [sector size in kB]
<G>
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At 11:57 AM 26/05/99 -0700, you wrote:
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>Hi,
>I tried this and it locked up my computer. I had to boot to the DOS prom=
pt
>to remove it from the CONFIG.SYS file.
>Dale
>
>----- Original Message -----
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>To: <gfabasic@gfa.net>
>Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 1999 10:25 AM
>Subject: Re: [gfabasic] SV: RAM DISK?
>
>
>> List Member "Eberhard Funck" <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de> wrote:
>> Hi Sven,
>>
>> device=3DC:\WINDOWS\ramdrive.sys 200 512
>>
>> Old DOS says: ramdrive.sys [size in kB] [sector size in kB]
>>
>> Eberhard
>>
>>
>>
>> >List Member Sven Kumlin <sven.kumlin@hem.utfors.se> wrote:
>> >Very interesting! But what about the size of the RAM-disk?
>> >Sven Kumlin
>> >
>> >-----Ursprungligt meddelande-----
>> >Fr=E5n: Eberhard Funck <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de>
>> >Till: gfabasic@gfa.net <gfabasic@gfa.net>
>> >Datum: den 26 maj 1999 17:06
>> >=C4mne: Re: [gfabasic] RAM DISK?
>> >
>> >
>> >>List Member "Eberhard Funck" <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de> wrote:
>> >>Hi John,
>> >>
>> >>With: device=3DC:\WINDOWS\ramdrive.sys 200 512
>> >>in the Config.sys file you create a ram disk.
>> >>
>> >>Windows recognize it as such a ram disk. You can see it
>> >>at the Windows ram disk symbol. I had create one for trying
>> >>my FileSelectBox in the CtrlTool.dll or GfaTool1.dll.
>> >>
>> >>Greetings
>> >>
>> >>Eberhard
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>>Does/can Windows have a ram disk? I can find no reference of one bu=
t
>> >>>someone mentioned it a few weeks ago here on this mailing list.
>> >>>
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At 04:15 PM 26/05/99 -0700, you wrote:
>List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
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>No, I am running WIN95. Perhaps I put it in wrong. I will try it again and
>see.
>Dale

device=C:\WINDOWS\ramdrive.sys 200 512
DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\RAMDRIVE.SYS 200 512

Either *should* work, but some systems are fussy about caps.  Just tack
it into config.sys as the last line & reboot.

Hope it's some screwy little thing like caps that is the problem.

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List Member John Findlay <Jayef@compuserve.com> wrote:

Dale,

>I am running WIN95. Perhaps I put it in wrong. I will try it again and
see.<

Just a thought, is your windows directory called Windows? Mine is called
Win98 therefore;

  device=3DC:\WIN98\ramdrive.sys 200 512

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Does anyone has experiences in using the ZIP-Compress-Format? I need a
method to compress files by using ZIP and a Password and uncompress in
the same way. I have found a DLL-File from Roland Walter called
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I tried to solve the problem by using pkzip and pkunzip as exe-files
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unzip.dll doesn't recognize all WinZip zip-files as being *.zip.
For use of PK... try using SHELL... PK is DOS
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>file.zip).
>
>I tried to solve the problem by using pkzip and pkunzip as exe-files
>but Win3.11 often hangs if I call it togehter with the
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>
>Has anyone got an other idea?
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>Many thanks in advance
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Yes, my windows directory is C;\WINDOWS. I will try the ram drive again
today. Have great day.
Dale

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Dale,

>I am running WIN95. Perhaps I put it in wrong. I will try it again and
see.<

Just a thought, is your windows directory called Windows? Mine is called
Win98 therefore;

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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Hi,
I think that the best ZIP package is WINZIP. It does it all. I think it
www.winzip.com
You can download a trial package free.

Dale

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Subject: [gfabasic] ZIP


> List Member "Verwaltung des VPH, Bensberg" <verwaltung@vph-bensberg.de>
wrote:
> Hi All!
>
> Does anyone has experiences in using the ZIP-Compress-Format? I need a
> method to compress files by using ZIP and a Password and uncompress in
> the same way. I have found a DLL-File from Roland Walter called
> "unzip.dll" which can extract files from an archive, but I have some
> problems with it because it do not work (I believe so) if the archive
> is password-protected (method: pkzip.exe -s password file.doc
> file.zip).
>
> I tried to solve the problem by using pkzip and pkunzip as exe-files
> but Win3.11 often hangs if I call it togehter with the
> ~WinExec-Function.
>
> Has anyone got an other idea?
>
> Many thanks in advance
> Yours
>
> Thomas
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List Member "EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" <JoeHurst@snafu.de> wrote:
> device=C:\WINDOWS\ramdrive.sys 200 512
Funny. How about NT?

Bye, Joe

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List Member BDD <BrentDeck@compuserve.com> wrote:
Dale:

Many of the zip files you have submitted here have been unrecognizeable b=
y
my system =

(using a Central Point file manager ) and by others who have posted here.=


Have you  tracked down the cause? Is there a new zip format?

Thanks
Brent
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Subject: [gfabasic] On the subject of archiving from GFA-W...
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
I will make the following available to anybody interested:

drv:\dir\file
atrib (rhsvda)   date   time   size
 
F:\COMPRESS\..
 
F:\COMPRESS\LZ\LZCOPY.LST
-----a  13/14/95  09:35:52     427
 
F:\COMPRESS\LZ\JF-LZSS.LST
-----a  19/01/98  14:19:24   18171
 
F:\COMPRESS\LZ\COMPRESS.TXT
-----a  19/01/98  14:32:28     642
 
F:\COMPRESS\LZ\LZC2.LST
-----a  19/01/98  18:19:14     547
 
F:\COMPRESS\LZ\EXPND01.LST
-----a  01/02/98  18:25:02     601
 
F:\COMPRESS\LZ\COMPRESS.EXE
-----a  18/01/98  10:32:06   15259
 
F:\COMPRESS\LZ\EXTS.DAT
-----a  04/02/98  06:40:58    4465
 
F:\COMPRESS\LZ\TR_LZ01A.LST
-----a  04/02/98  03:00:18    3991
 
F:\COMPRESS\LZ\TR_LZ01B.LST
-----a  04/02/98  03:57:26    3814
 
F:\COMPRESS\LZ\LZEXPAND.LST
-----a  04/02/98  07:01:42     426
 
F:\COMPRESS\LZ\LZ_UNDO.GFW
-----a  12/02/98  02:30:04    1618
 
F:\COMPRESS\LZ\~GFA.RES
-----a  12/02/98  02:30:30     788
 
F:\COMPRESS\LZ\~GFA.DEF
-----a  12/02/98  02:30:32     301
 
F:\COMPRESS\LZ\~GFA.LNK
-----a  12/02/98  02:30:32     133
 
F:\COMPRESS\LZ\~GFA.OBJ
-----a  12/02/98  02:30:32    1896
 
F:\COMPRESS\LZ\~GFA.OUT
-----a  12/02/98  02:30:32     112
 
F:\COMPRESS\LZ\LZ_UNDO.EXE
-----a  12/02/98  02:30:32   20592
 
F:\COMPRESS\LZ\AFXRES.H_
-----a  11/08/95  21:01:14    4791
 
F:\COMPRESS\LZ\AFXRES.H
-----a  11/08/95  21:01:14   13608
 
F:\COMPRESS\LZ\COMPRESS.DA!
-----a  08/02/99  10:35:16    1270
 
F:\COMPRESS\RAR\ERAR172.RAR
-----a  19/01/98  09:19:14   85043
 
F:\COMPRESS\RAR\LARAR2.RAR
-----a  19/01/98  09:16:58   10063
 
F:\COMPRESS\RAR\RAR_USE.EXE
-----a  19/01/98  09:17:30   20179
 
F:\COMPRESS\RAR\RAR204.EXE
-----a  19/01/98  09:15:16  271896
 
F:\COMPRESS\RAR\RARINFO.TXT
-----a  19/01/98  09:02:54    2019
 
F:\COMPRESS\RAR\WRAR204.EXE
-----a  19/01/98  09:11:36  484517
 
F:\COMPRESS\RAR\MAN0.TXT
-----a  19/01/98  09:30:56   64816
 
F:\COMPRESS\RAR\RAR204PD.EXE
-----a  19/01/98  09:37:40  285142
 
F:\COMPRESS\RAR\FAQ.TXT
-----a  19/01/98  09:30:06   18316
 
F:\COMPRESS\CAB\CAB.ZIP
-----a  02/02/98  19:22:40  113500
 
F:\COMPRESS\CAB\LISTBOX3.LST
-----a  04/02/98  01:13:18    2464
 
F:\COMPRESS\CAB\MULTILST.LST
-----a  04/02/98  01:14:34    1387
 
F:\COMPRESS\CAB\CABARC.EXE
-----a  20/07/97  06:01:00  114688
 
F:\COMPRESS\CAB\CAB.TXT
-----a  04/06/98  13:08:58     601
 
F:\COMPRESS\CAB\CAB.DSC
-----a  04/06/98  13:05:36     195
 
F:\COMPRESS\CAB\README.TXT
-----a  04/02/98  15:43:26    1689
 
F:\COMPRESS\CAB\TESTBED.LST
-----a  14/00/98  22:13:58     153
 
F:\COMPRESS\CAB\DIALOGTU.LST
-----a  03/02/98  06:50:22    5827
 
F:\COMPRESS\CAB\CAB01.LST
-----a  03/02/98  13:08:48    3531
 
F:\COMPRESS\CAB\SELECT2.LST
-----a  20/13/98  10:56:50    1365
 
F:\COMPRESS\CAB\HIDE\EXTRACT.EXE
-----a  22/03/98  18:09:46  101376
 
F:\COMPRESS\CAB\CAB01A.LST
-----a  04/02/98  03:00:18    3991
 
F:\COMPRESS\CAB\0409CS1_.TXT
-----a  04/02/98  15:46:34    1245
 
F:\COMPRESS\CAB\PLAY\CABARC.EXE
-----a  20/07/97  06:01:00  114688
 
F:\COMPRESS\CAB\PLAY\TESTBED.LST
-----a  14/00/98  22:13:58     153
 
F:\COMPRESS\CAB\PLAY\WINCAB01.LST
-----a  06/02/98  19:25:22     204
 
F:\COMPRESS\CAB\PLAY\TEST.CAB
-----a  21/03/98  09:30:04   16088
 
F:\COMPRESS\CAB\PLAY\EXTS.TXT
-----a  06/02/98  17:21:50    7556
 
F:\COMPRESS\CAB\PLAY\WINCAB02.LST
-----a  06/02/98  19:27:16     196
 
F:\COMPRESS\CAB\PLAY\README.TXT
-----a  04/02/98  15:43:26    1689

F:\COMPRESS\CAB\STORE.BAT
-----a  15/02/98  11:50:06      85
 
F:\COMPRESS\CAB\1310CR1_.TXT
-----a  13/04/98  06:00:40    6482
 
F:\COMPRESS\CAB\CABARC.DA!
-----a  08/02/99  10:34:36    4336
 
F:\COMPRESS\ZIP\FUNZIP.EXE
-----a  23/07/98  16:19:22   53248
 
F:\COMPRESS\ZIP\FUNZIP.DOC
-----a  02/06/97  22:03:40    3914
 
F:\COMPRESS\ZIP\GZIP.DOC
-----a  20/03/95  04:55:32   15695
 
F:\COMPRESS\ZIP\GZIP.EXE
-----a  02/08/97  13:52:50   91648
 
F:\COMPRESS\ZIP\UNZIP.DOC
-----a  02/06/97  22:03:42   44561
 
F:\COMPRESS\ZIP\UNZIP.EXE
-----a  23/07/98  16:19:12  145408
 
F:\COMPRESS\ZIP\UNZIPSFX.DOC
-----a  02/06/97  22:03:42   13657
 
F:\COMPRESS\ZIP\UNZIPSFX.EXE
-----a  23/07/98  16:19:12  145408
 
F:\COMPRESS\ZIP\ZIP.DOC
-----a  15/04/97  22:32:30   35344
 
F:\COMPRESS\ZIP\ZIP.EXE
-----a  23/07/98  16:05:42  120320
 
F:\COMPRESS\ZIP\ZIPCLOAK.EXE
-----a  23/07/98  16:06:00   68608
 
F:\COMPRESS\ZIP\ZIPNOTE.EXE
-----a  23/07/98  16:05:54   64512
 
F:\COMPRESS\ZIP\ZIPSPLIT.EXE
-----a  23/07/98  16:05:56   56320

F:\COMPRESS\ZIP\SLF_EXTR\INFOZIP.EXE
-----a  04/02/98  04:05:26  407761
 
F:\COMPRESS\COMPRESS.ZIP
-----a  08/02/99  10:24:32  960734

F:\COMPRESS\LHA255\LHA255E.EXE
-----a  20/03/99  01:38:40   65704
 
F:\COMPRESS\LHA255\FILE_ID.DIZ
-----a  10/02/96  00:00:00     340
 
F:\COMPRESS\LHA255\HISTORY.DOC
-----a  10/02/96  00:00:00    8118
 
F:\COMPRESS\LHA255\LHA.DOC
-----a  10/02/96  00:00:00   29951
 
F:\COMPRESS\LHA255\LHA.EXE
-----a  10/02/96  00:00:00   36624
 
F:\COMPRESS\LHA255\LHA.HLP
-----a  10/02/96  00:00:00    6752
 
F:\COMPRESS\LHA255\LHA255.TXT
-----a  10/02/96  00:00:00   45242
 
F:\COMPRESS\LHA255\READ.ME
-----a  10/02/96  00:00:00    3491
 
F:\COMPRESS\LHA255\README.TXT
-----a  10/02/96  00:00:00    4866
 
F:\COMPRESS\LHA255\REVISION.TXT
-----a  10/02/96  00:00:00    8951
 
F:\COMPRESS\LHA255\2001HY1-.TXT
-----a  20/03/99  09:43:30     671
 
F:\COMPRESS\LHA255\1203HY1-.TXT
-----a  12/06/99  06:25:42     974

F:\COMPRESS\LHA213\HISTORY.TXT
-----a  02/00/91  02:13:12    9060
 
F:\COMPRESS\LHA213\LHA.EXE
-----a  20/15/91  02:13:00   34283
 
F:\COMPRESS\LHA213\LHA213.DOC
-----a  02/00/91  02:13:24   31840
 
F:\COMPRESS\LHA213\LHA.HLP
-----a  04/08/91  06:45:34    6752

F:\COMPRESS\LHA213\SLF-EXTR\LHA213.EXE
-----a  09/02/99  18:34:50   44416

F:\COMPRESS\LHA140\LHALIB.DLL
-----a  14/14/95  15:36:58    3904
 
F:\COMPRESS\LHA140\DLLMAIN.ASM
-----a  11/06/93  14:52:04    3164
 
F:\COMPRESS\LHA140\LHALIB.ASM
-----a  12/12/95  21:30:44   35632
 
F:\COMPRESS\LHA140\WINLHA.PAS
-----a  14/14/95  15:41:30    2588
 
F:\COMPRESS\LHA140\LHALIB.PAS
-----a  14/14/95  15:44:26    4311
 
F:\COMPRESS\LHA140\LHALIB.H
-----a  14/14/95  15:27:42    2670
 
F:\COMPRESS\LHA140\DLLTST.C
-----a  14/14/95  15:31:34    1793
 
F:\COMPRESS\LHA140\TEST.C
-----a  30/03/93  13:50:56   33489
 
F:\COMPRESS\LHA140\TEST2.C
-----a  19/09/93  20:47:42   17100
 
F:\COMPRESS\LHA140\WINLHA.C
-----a  11/06/93  14:54:58    1444
 
F:\COMPRESS\LHA140\LHALIB.LIB
-----a  14/14/95  15:36:58    1024

F:\COMPRESS\LHA140\LHALIB.IDE
-----a  14/14/95  15:46:34   28934
 
F:\COMPRESS\LHA140\LHALIB.TXT
-----a  16/15/95  13:17:42    6367
 
F:\COMPRESS\LHA140\LHALIB.HLP
-----a  21/01/95  08:53:18   15551
 
F:\COMPRESS\LHA140\LHALIB.OBJ
-----a  26/11/95  14:54:20    3506
 
F:\COMPRESS\LHA140\OTHER.HLP
-----a  31/09/95  16:05:52   11648
 
F:\COMPRESS\LHA140\LHALIB14.ZIP
-----a  16/09/98  23:45:30   61130
 
F:\COMPRESS\LHA140\1.MTP
-----a  12/02/99  06:34:06  235039
 
F:\COMPRESS\LHA140\1.TXT
-----a  12/02/99  07:07:02    6173
 
F:\COMPRESS\LHA140\GETDRIVE.GFW
-----a  27/03/95  14:02:42     816
 
F:\COMPRESS\LHA140\OTHER.GID
-----a  06/10/99  16:07:44    8628
 
F:\COMPRESS\LHA140\XLTD.TXT
-----a  06/10/99  16:33:12    6192

F:\COMPRESS\CABPACK\CABPACK.EXE
-----a  19/05/98  00:50:58   40480
 
F:\COMPRESS\CABPACK\CABPACK.TXT
-----a  19/05/98  00:53:08    7018
 
F:\COMPRESS\CABPACK\EXTRAC32.EXE
-----a  20/07/97  06:01:00  101376
 
F:\COMPRESS\CABPACK\EXTRACT.EXE
-----a  19/03/97  00:00:00   52998
 
F:\COMPRESS\CABPACK\MAKECAB.OVL
-----a  21/01/97  12:12:38  152576
 
F:\COMPRESS\CABPACK\CABPACK.ZIP
-----a  15/06/99  22:42:24  210812
 
F:\COMPRESS\BITLIN.LZH
-----a  27/07/99  23:54:38   56148

F:\COMPRESS\LHA2SRC\LHA211_S.EXE
-----a  28/07/99  00:09:44   59429
 
F:\COMPRESS\LHA2SRC\README.DOC
-----a  03/06/91  22:25:48    2315
 
F:\COMPRESS\LHA2SRC\LSIC86.CFG
-----a  03/06/91  20:25:04      69

F:\COMPRESS\LHA2SRC\APPEND.C
-----a  19/05/91  23:11:16    4317
 
F:\COMPRESS\LHA2SRC\DISP.C
-----a  01/04/91  11:53:50    2010
 
F:\COMPRESS\LHA2SRC\DOSIO.C
-----a  18/03/91  19:56:28    2548
 
F:\COMPRESS\LHA2SRC\ERROR.C
-----a  25/05/91  10:35:48    1545
 
F:\COMPRESS\LHA2SRC\EXTRACT.C
-----a  03/06/91  20:37:32    5698
 
F:\COMPRESS\LHA2SRC\FILES.C
-----a  26/05/91  09:21:42    4648
 
F:\COMPRESS\LHA2SRC\GETOPT.C
-----a  19/05/91  23:13:14    1599
 
F:\COMPRESS\LHA2SRC\HEADER.C
-----a  13/04/91  22:08:46    8935
 
F:\COMPRESS\LHA2SRC\LIST.C
-----a  30/03/90  20:22:14    2304
 
F:\COMPRESS\LHA2SRC\MATCH.C
-----a  22/05/91  11:00:00    3992
 
F:\COMPRESS\LHA2SRC\MES_J.C
-----a  02/06/91  00:47:50    2268
 
F:\COMPRESS\LHA2SRC\MES_E.C
-----a  02/06/91  00:47:50    2058
 
F:\COMPRESS\LHA2SRC\MN.C
-----a  03/06/91  20:55:08    9086
 
F:\COMPRESS\LHA2SRC\PATH.C
-----a  30/03/90  20:22:36    1186
 
F:\COMPRESS\LHA2SRC\SELF.C
-----a  02/06/91  00:47:50    2487
 
F:\COMPRESS\LHA2SRC\UTIL.C
-----a  14/04/91  19:50:50    4424
 
F:\COMPRESS\LHA2SRC\DISP.H
-----a  01/04/91  11:39:20     245
 
F:\COMPRESS\LHA2SRC\LH.H
-----a  19/05/91  23:15:56    4240
 
F:\COMPRESS\LHA2SRC\ERRMES.H
-----a  02/06/91  00:47:52    1050
 
F:\COMPRESS\LHA2SRC\INTRFACE.H
-----a  13/02/91  16:12:58     675
 
F:\COMPRESS\LHA2SRC\SLIDEHUF.H
-----a  11/02/91  14:19:50    2672
 
F:\COMPRESS\LHA2SRC\TYPEDEF.H
-----a  30/03/90  20:24:20     395
 
F:\COMPRESS\LHA2SRC\CRCIO_.ASM
-----a  03/06/91  18:03:42    5592
 
F:\COMPRESS\LHA2SRC\DHUF_.ASM
-----a  03/06/91  18:12:16   11688
 
F:\COMPRESS\LHA2SRC\DSPMRK_.ASM
-----a  11/04/91  17:58:22    1388
 
F:\COMPRESS\LHA2SRC\HUF_.ASM
-----a  03/06/91  18:20:08   13727
 
F:\COMPRESS\LHA2SRC\LARC_.ASM
-----a  03/06/91  18:25:44    2364
 
F:\COMPRESS\LHA2SRC\MAKETRE_.ASM
-----a  11/04/91  17:43:56    5812
 
F:\COMPRESS\LHA2SRC\MAKETBL_.ASM
-----a  11/04/91  17:46:20    3499
 
F:\COMPRESS\LHA2SRC\SFX_.ASM
-----a  03/06/91  18:29:58   23976
 
F:\COMPRESS\LHA2SRC\SLIDE_.ASM
-----a  03/06/91  22:44:56   21529
 
F:\COMPRESS\LHA2SRC\VHUF_.ASM
-----a  11/04/91  17:42:34    2087
 
F:\COMPRESS\LHA2SRC\_CNVTIME.ASM
-----a  03/06/91  18:47:14    2769
 
F:\COMPRESS\LHA2SRC\SHUF_.ASM
-----a  03/06/91  18:40:44    6416

F:\COMPRESS\LHA2SRC\LZH2ASM.C
-----a  06/02/91  20:08:04    1297
 
F:\COMPRESS\LHA2SRC\README.TXT
-----a  10/02/96  13:12:04    4940
 
F:\COMPRESS\LHA2SRC\FILE_ID.DIZ
-----a  10/02/96  21:53:22     363

F:\COMPRESS\LHADLL\LHADLL.EXE
-----a  27/07/99  23:56:12   50393
 
F:\COMPRESS\LHADLL\TINYLHA.EXE
-----a  18/05/94  01:20:10    9216
 
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List Member Michael Weigand <michael-weigand@foni.net> wrote:
>List Member "EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" <JoeHurst@snafu.de> wrote:
>> device=C:\WINDOWS\ramdrive.sys 200 512
>Funny. How about NT?

There is a file called ramdisk.zip (?) at the Microsoft site, I think. It's
a very simple ramdisk for NT.


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Subject: [gfabasic] Link Static Data?
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List Member Anthony Watson <awatson@pacifier.com> wrote:
Back when I used to program with GFA BASIC on the Atari ST, there was a
command called "INLINE" that allowed you to store any type of data you
wished within the code of your program. I often used this for storing
assembly language programs, graphic images, sounds, etc.

Unfortunately, one of my first discoveries when I moved to Windows was
that the INLINE command was no longer available.

I have generally worked around this by storing my data in DATA statements.
While this works, it is not very elegant, and there is apparently a limit
as to how many DATA statements you can have.

Anyway, I've maxed out my DATA statements and I still have more static
data that I would like to include in my program (binary data, text,
pictures, etc.). I currently use external files for these items, but I
would really prefer to have these as part of the actual program code.

Any suggestions?

Thanks,

Anthony Watson
Mountain Software
support@mountain-software.com
http://www.mountain-software
Maker of "Home Cookin" Recipe Software

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Anthony
Do you have a resource compiler?  Most can probably be put into a *res
file & included in your compiled program.  If you prefer, you can send
it all in a *.dll (which can be called from the editor).
<G>
TomR.


At 11:53 AM 27/05/99 -0700, you wrote:
>List Member Anthony Watson <awatson@pacifier.com> wrote:
>Back when I used to program with GFA BASIC on the Atari ST, there was a
>command called "INLINE" that allowed you to store any type of data you
>wished within the code of your program. I often used this for storing
>assembly language programs, graphic images, sounds, etc.
>
>Unfortunately, one of my first discoveries when I moved to Windows was
>that the INLINE command was no longer available.
>
>I have generally worked around this by storing my data in DATA statements.
>While this works, it is not very elegant, and there is apparently a limit
>as to how many DATA statements you can have.
>
>Anyway, I've maxed out my DATA statements and I still have more static
>data that I would like to include in my program (binary data, text,
>pictures, etc.). I currently use external files for these items, but I
>would really prefer to have these as part of the actual program code.
>
>Any suggestions?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Anthony Watson
>Mountain Software
>support@mountain-software.com
>http://www.mountain-software
>Maker of "Home Cookin" Recipe Software
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List Member Anthony Watson <awatson@pacifier.com> wrote:
Tom,

> Do you have a resource compiler?

No I don't.

> Most can probably be put into a *res file & included in your compiled
> program.

That's part of the problem. I don't want to have to compile the program
just to see if it works. That would really slow down testing. I prefer to
have my programs run the same whether they are compiled or running in the
editor.

> If you prefer, you can send it all in a *.dll

There's no real advantage to putting the data in a DLL instead of a
generic data file. I've still got additional files to worry about.

None of this is very critical, I just like to keep files to a minimum
whenever possible. I was just hoping there was an elegant way of storing
data within the program code itself.

Thanks,

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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
HI Brent,
I use a WINZIP for all zip archives.  All the files on the GFAWHELP web page
are done with WINZIP. I would like to know who the 'others are that are
having this problem.  If I recall when you send me code I always have to
remove all the 'file' references in the code. I have never seen this from
anyone else. I will send you a small zip outside the list and see what you
receive. I put far too much time into all this stuff to have a problem that
possibly might be fixed.
Dale

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Dale:

Many of the zip files you have submitted here have been unrecognizeable by
my system
(using a Central Point file manager ) and by others who have posted here.

Have you  tracked down the cause? Is there a new zip format?

Thanks
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Hi Brent,
What is a ( a Central Point file manager ) ? That's not a John Findlay
program, is it?(G)
Sorry John,
Dale

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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
I am looking for articles on programming in GFA BASIC for the 'Not
Affiliated With GFA' news letter. All are welcome as long as they contain
SOME positive points of view.  Please consider contributing so we can keep
the news letter going.
Dale Bryant
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Do you have some small GFA routines that you are willing to have published
in the the 'Not Affiliated With GFA News Letter' ?  I think it safe to state
that all of us have learned much from reading other programmers code.   The
theme of the news letter is Programmers Helping Programmers.  The news
letter has more subscribers that the old mailing list had so you will be
helping someone to become a better programmer. As most of us have different
areas of programming interest your code is almost  guaranteed to help some
other programmer.
I would also like to take this opportunity to publicly thank John Findlay
who has contributed so much to keeping the news letter alive. Thanks John.
Dale

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Anthony
All was just a thought.  You could build a string table of all the
data (donno of any limits) & put it in the *.res file & compile it
to a *.dll.  The interpretor will load from a *.dll, but to avoid
extra files, you can compile the *.res into the finished product.

Sorry, but I don't know any other way except to construct a thousand
or so strings instead of DATA statements & just call in the desired
strings as you need'em.  This way, they'd be an integral part of the
code.  There may be another way to do this, but I haven't run across
any need for so much data retention.
<G>
TomR.


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>List Member Anthony Watson <awatson@pacifier.com> wrote:
>Tom,
>
>> Do you have a resource compiler?
>
>No I don't.
>
>> Most can probably be put into a *res file & included in your compiled
>> program.
>
>That's part of the problem. I don't want to have to compile the program
>just to see if it works. That would really slow down testing. I prefer to
>have my programs run the same whether they are compiled or running in the
>editor.
>
>> If you prefer, you can send it all in a *.dll
>
>There's no real advantage to putting the data in a DLL instead of a
>generic data file. I've still got additional files to worry about.
>
>None of this is very critical, I just like to keep files to a minimum
>whenever possible. I was just hoping there was an elegant way of storing
>data within the program code itself.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Anthony
>
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List Member Anthony Watson <awatson@pacifier.com> wrote:
Tom,

> All was just a thought.

Don't get me wrong, I appreciate the feedback... I already knew most of 
the answers, but was hoping someone would mention something I hadn't
thought of.

> Sorry, but I don't know any other way except to construct a thousand
> or so strings instead of DATA statements & just call in the desired
> strings as you need'em.  This way, they'd be an integral part of the
> code.

I haven't tried this, but this is one approach I was thinking of. I'm sure
it would probably introduce new problems, but it is worth a try I suppose.

> I haven't run across any need for so much data retention.

I really don't think I have that much data. Probably less than 32K or so.
Back in the Atari version of GFA BASIC, I could put 32K in "each" INLINE
statement. I used to store all kinds of stuff in those... Ha. Ha.

I've got tables of strings, patterns for graphics, bitmap patterns, font
tables, conversion charts, etc. Just basic "data", nothing fancy.

If I had an easy way to create resource files, I may try that approach.
What do you recommend for creating resource files? And, do you have any
examples showing the use of a resource file, especially the
interpreted/compiled variations.

Thanks for your input!

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Ok
Have something I can send that will illustrate this to some extent.
Will send direct tho - not on the list.
<G>
TomR.



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>List Member Anthony Watson <awatson@pacifier.com> wrote:
>Tom,
>
>> All was just a thought.
>
>Don't get me wrong, I appreciate the feedback... I already knew most of 
>the answers, but was hoping someone would mention something I hadn't
>thought of.
>
>> Sorry, but I don't know any other way except to construct a thousand
>> or so strings instead of DATA statements & just call in the desired
>> strings as you need'em.  This way, they'd be an integral part of the
>> code.
>
>I haven't tried this, but this is one approach I was thinking of. I'm sure
>it would probably introduce new problems, but it is worth a try I suppose.
>
>> I haven't run across any need for so much data retention.
>
>I really don't think I have that much data. Probably less than 32K or so.
>Back in the Atari version of GFA BASIC, I could put 32K in "each" INLINE
>statement. I used to store all kinds of stuff in those... Ha. Ha.
>
>I've got tables of strings, patterns for graphics, bitmap patterns, font
>tables, conversion charts, etc. Just basic "data", nothing fancy.
>
>If I had an easy way to create resource files, I may try that approach.
>What do you recommend for creating resource files? And, do you have any
>examples showing the use of a resource file, especially the
>interpreted/compiled variations.
>
>Thanks for your input!
>
>Anthony
>
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Recently, there was a discussion on des3w but I've lost track of the e-mails.

I would like to try to use this, but I can't get it to encode/decode more
than 8 charactors.  Has anybody worked out how to make this thing accept
a text file & encode/decode the whole thing?

For the moment, it appears necessary to read a file in 8 chars at a time &
process them to a file opened "a", then to use it to decode, it seems to 
need an 8-char at a time input, decode them, then again to a file opened "a",
save the lot & try to re-glue the original file back together in the 2nd one.

Am I on the right track?  if this is right, this thing is going to be far 
more trouble & work than it's worth for my use.

Help, suggestions, etc., welcome...
<G>
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List Member John Findlay <Jayef@compuserve.com> wrote:

Anthony,

>If I had an easy way to create resource files, I may try that approach.
What do you recommend for creating resource files? And, do you have any
examples showing the use of a resource file, especially the
interpreted/compiled variations.<

You will need a resource compiler, I use Borland's Resource Workshop. You=

can use the resources when running interpreted by loading them from a
resource dll and link the res file at compile time.

I have examples of calling up the resources Interpreted/Compiled if you
need them. There are also some on Dale's web page.

John
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List Member John Findlay <Jayef@compuserve.com> wrote:

Brent,

Sometimes the zip's are encoded in the body of the text so you need to
decode it. I use a freeware prog called WinCode.exe. I've been telling Da=
le
about it for weeks but he won't take any notice. :-) Just joking Dale!

John
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Subject: [gfabasic] des3w revisited, if there is any interest.
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Ok - I spent a few hrs playing.  This is useless for my purpose, but was 
good exercise.

I went w/ an 8-char key & loaded line by line, working w/ 8 char at a time
& padding any shorties out to 8 char.

I began w/ a 9755 line, 215K file
I encoded into a 9699 line, 257K file.
Reversing the process, I decoded into a 935 line, 216K file.

Everything encoded, maybe half decoded.  Encode time was 10 minutes.
Decode time was about 7 minutes.  The same key was used throughout.

The encoded file was expected to be somewhat larger in size, but expected
to be the same number of lines.

I expected the decoded file to be roughly equal to the original... it's
nothing like it.  It's all in about 9 lines if unwrapped.

My object: a vocabulary a user wouldn't have the courage to mess with.

I have a translator (word by word, at the moment) that can handle any file
size (I've loaded a 1.46M file & edited it).  I can make changes & save the
file with it's changes back over itself or as a new file.

I have 2 more related knots to untie... if the user grabs the Vert scrollbar 
slider & moves it, I have to figure out how many lines it was moved.  No
easy task with my state of mind right now.  It probably *is* very simple.  I
am not messing w/ charactor by charactor movement in the Horz axis for now.
I *do* have the scrollbar movement done by clicking on the arrows or ribbons
of the scrollbars.  *That* was easy, even for me.

I'm gone.
<G>
TomR.

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
The in-body coding is UU, & when not properly done is the pits to 
decode.  For this I use XferPro.  Not free, but only about $20 U.S.

WinCode!  You can have it, John!  I paid twice for the helpfile &
never got it or even an upgrade to the program itself.  When I see a
newer version online, I skip over it.  I'm paid up for PK (DOS) & for
WinZip (Win31 & Win95).  Both are the defacto authorities for their
respective OSs.  Dale is smart for avoiding WinCode.

TomR.



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>
>Brent,
>
>Sometimes the zip's are encoded in the body of the text so you need to
>decode it. I use a freeware prog called WinCode.exe. I've been telling Dale
>about it for weeks but he won't take any notice. :-) Just joking Dale!
>
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List Member "Bev Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
I don't know why you guys bother with all those programs; didn't you use
Norton Commander (in DOS); well, WinCommander looks so much like it (& has
it's own built-in ZIP/UNZIp, too), I use it all the time.

http://www.ghisler.com/

                        ->Bev<-

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> List Member John Findlay <Jayef@compuserve.com> wrote:
>
> Brent,
>
> Sometimes the zip's are encoded in the body of the text so you need to
> decode it. I use a freeware prog called WinCode.exe. I've been telling
Dale
> about it for weeks but he won't take any notice. :-) Just joking Dale!
>
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Hi Bev,

>I don't know why you guys bother with all those programs; didn't you use=

Norton Commander (in DOS); well, WinCommander looks so much like it (& ha=
s
it's own built-in ZIP/UNZIp, too), I use it all the time.<

My browser unzips zip's but when the data is encoded into the text (MIME)=

it doesn't like it, so I use WinCode and it's freeware. And despite what
Tom says it works fine for what I use it for.



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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Boy, you guys have got me curious about zip files. When a zip file is
attached to a message as a separate item from the message how does it get
into the message itself.  If I send myself a zip attachment it always comes
attached as a separate attachment from the message.  Are some mail reader
programs doing the insertion on their own?  I think from now on I will just
send all zip attachments to myself only. (G)
Dale

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Brent,

Sometimes the zip's are encoded in the body of the text so you need to
decode it. I use a freeware prog called WinCode.exe. I've been telling Dale
about it for weeks but he won't take any notice. :-) Just joking Dale!

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List Member BDD <BrentDeck@compuserve.com> wrote:
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I have examples of calling up the resources Interpreted/Compiled if you
need them. There are also some on Dale's web page.
John
<<<<

John,,, I would also be interested in seeing your resource examples,
for both normal resource files and for static data.

Brent.
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List Member "Roland Walter" <alibaba@zedat.fu-berlin.de> wrote:

> [...] I have found a DLL-File from Roland Walter called
> "unzip.dll" which can extract files from an archive, but I have some
> problems with it because it do not work (I believe so) if the archive
> is password-protected (method: pkzip.exe -s password file.doc
> file.zip).

The DLL was made by Chritian Ghisler, the programmer of the 
famous Windows Commander: http://www.ghisler.com
I have only compiled the 16 bit DLL from the original code without 
any changes ;-)

It's correct: This DLL does not support passwort protection, but 
anywhere: It's the best UnZip-DLL I ever found.
If You like the DLL with some protection You could make an own 
workaround:
There is one UnZip function in the DLL wich extracts to memory. 
This You could use to shift some bits in UNCOMPESSED binary 
files or make other changes before compression and after 
compression in memory. Often it's just enough for example to add 
10 rendom bytes on the very beginning of all files. This bytes You 
can delete after uncompressing to memory and before extracting to 
disk. If people do not know what You have done it's mostly secure 
enough.
It should be no problem to make a small program in GFA Basic 
wich makes an automatic conversion of all files wich You after like 
to put into the ZIP file.
Could this solve Your problem?

Bye, Roland (Viele Gruesse)
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List Member "Charles O. GAuthier" <chasgaut@radix.net> wrote:
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Dale
you found & fixed your problem... don't change anything now, please.

UU converts binary (8-bit, 256 chars) to text (7-bit, very few chars).

Only the sending appl can make the change... recipients can only make
the conversion back.

<G>
TomR.



At 09:19 AM 28/05/99 -0700, you wrote:
>List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
>Boy, you guys have got me curious about zip files. When a zip file is
>attached to a message as a separate item from the message how does it get
>into the message itself.  If I send myself a zip attachment it always comes
>attached as a separate attachment from the message.  Are some mail reader
>programs doing the insertion on their own?  I think from now on I will just
>send all zip attachments to myself only. (G)
>Dale
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: John Findlay <Jayef@compuserve.com>
>To: <gfabasic@gfa.net>
>Sent: Friday, May 28, 1999 12:11 AM
>Subject: Re: [gfabasic] ZIP
>
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>List Member John Findlay <Jayef@compuserve.com> wrote:
>
>Brent,
>
>Sometimes the zip's are encoded in the body of the text so you need to
>decode it. I use a freeware prog called WinCode.exe. I've been telling Dale
>about it for weeks but he won't take any notice. :-) Just joking Dale!
>
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HI Tom,
Actually, there isn't anything that I could change besides what you and I
discussed before. I will leave will enough alone.
Dale

----- Original Message -----
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> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Dale
> you found & fixed your problem... don't change anything now, please.
>
> UU converts binary (8-bit, 256 chars) to text (7-bit, very few chars).
>
> Only the sending appl can make the change... recipients can only make
> the conversion back.
>
> <G>
> TomR.
>
>
>
> At 09:19 AM 28/05/99 -0700, you wrote:
> >List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> >Boy, you guys have got me curious about zip files. When a zip file is
> >attached to a message as a separate item from the message how does it get
> >into the message itself.  If I send myself a zip attachment it always
comes
> >attached as a separate attachment from the message.  Are some mail reader
> >programs doing the insertion on their own?  I think from now on I will
just
> >send all zip attachments to myself only. (G)
> >Dale
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: John Findlay <Jayef@compuserve.com>
> >To: <gfabasic@gfa.net>
> >Sent: Friday, May 28, 1999 12:11 AM
> >Subject: Re: [gfabasic] ZIP
> >
> >
> >List Member John Findlay <Jayef@compuserve.com> wrote:
> >
> >Brent,
> >
> >Sometimes the zip's are encoded in the body of the text so you need to
> >decode it. I use a freeware prog called WinCode.exe. I've been telling
Dale
> >about it for weeks but he won't take any notice. :-) Just joking Dale!
> >
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List Member "EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" <JoeHurst@snafu.de> wrote:
Tom
If you can make an archive of _all_ and Dale would upload it to his homepage in
a readable format :-): fantastic.
If not, please sent me a mail with all in, I'll put it on my homepage.

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List Member "EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" <JoeHurst@snafu.de> wrote:
> I would like to try to use this, but I can't get it to encode/decode more
> than 8 charactors.  Has anybody worked out how to make this thing accept
> a text file & encode/decode the whole thing?
Tom, in JPE is an option to use DES encoding/decoding on textblocks of any
length, if the DES-DLL is installed on your system. Isn't that enough? Roland
Walter wrote an example on encoding/decoding with this DLL in GFA, hard to
understand, but worth to read. The DES-DLL itself is free for any non-commercial
use.

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List Member "EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" <JoeHurst@snafu.de> wrote:
> Do you have some small GFA routines that you are willing to have published
> in the the 'Not Affiliated With GFA News Letter' ?  I think it safe to state
How about the list of routines I sent you some weeks ago?

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List Member John Findlay <Jayef@compuserve.com> wrote:

>I would also be interested in seeing your resource examples,
for both normal resource files and for static data.<

Brent,

I'm sure you have already seen some in the listings that I've sent to
Dale's news letter and web page.

An example is rtfhelp.zip; stores a rich text format file as a custom
resource in a dll & res, loads it from the resource (interpreted &
compiled), saves to disk as a binary etc. You can store any type of data
you like.

If that's not what you mean let me know.

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List Member J.Burgmeier@t-online.de (Juergen Burgmeier) wrote:
Hello,

The attached listing might be helpful for those beginners who are interested
 in implementing a Win95/98 / WinNT  compatible fileselect dialogs and
read & write file procedures supporting long file names.
Even 3 read and 3 write file functions have been tested on both Win98 and
WinNT4.0.
The results are indicated at each test case.

Note: The parameter list of the fileselect box  procedure has been chosen very
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easy.

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List Member J.Burgmeier@t-online.de (Juergen Burgmeier) wrote:
This is a multi-part message in MIME format.

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Sorry, now attm.

Hello,

The attached listing might be helpful for those beginners who are interested
 in implementing a Win95/98 / WinNT  compatible fileselect dialogs and
read & write file procedures supporting long file names.
Even 3 read and 3 write file functions have been tested on both Win98 and
WinNT4.0.
The results are indicated at each test case.

Note: The parameter list of the fileselect box  procedure has been chosen very
similar to the corresponding GFA dialog. So moving to the new dialog should be
easy.

Thanks to all who have contributed to the listing.

Regards Juergen


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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Joe
It makes about 6.5M at the moment... I'll do some cleaning up & see what
it amounts to before sending it anywhere.  I think that there are some
things in the dir that don't belong as well as a little known trash.

Thanks for the offer - somebody is really going to appreciate it.
<G>
TomR.



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>List Member "EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" <JoeHurst@snafu.de> wrote:
>Tom
>If you can make an archive of _all_ and Dale would upload it to his homepage in
>a readable format :-): fantastic.
>If not, please sent me a mail with all in, I'll put it on my homepage.
>
>Thanks, Joe
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
My mistake, Joe.  I got JPE, then forgot that's where the DES was.
Thanks, but it appears to be more work than my idea was worth anyway.
I just wanted to make some data files *look* so impressive that no
user would mess with them.  If I leave them as text files, a user
can mess them up, but can easily add to them & I don't have to go
thru the circus act of adding & encoding from within my appl.
<G>
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At 10:49 PM 28/05/99 +0200, you wrote:
>List Member "EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" <JoeHurst@snafu.de> wrote:
>> I would like to try to use this, but I can't get it to encode/decode more
>> than 8 charactors.  Has anybody worked out how to make this thing accept
>> a text file & encode/decode the whole thing?
>Tom, in JPE is an option to use DES encoding/decoding on textblocks of any
>length, if the DES-DLL is installed on your system. Isn't that enough? Roland
>Walter wrote an example on encoding/decoding with this DLL in GFA, hard to
>understand, but worth to read. The DES-DLL itself is free for any
non-commercial
>use.
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>Bye, Joe
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Uhhhhhh, Juergen
It wasn't attached <G>.  Busy, busy?
<G>
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>List Member J.Burgmeier@t-online.de (Juergen Burgmeier) wrote:
>Hello,
>
>The attached listing might be helpful for those beginners who are interested
> in implementing a Win95/98 / WinNT  compatible fileselect dialogs and
>read & write file procedures supporting long file names.
>Even 3 read and 3 write file functions have been tested on both Win98 and
>WinNT4.0.
>The results are indicated at each test case.
>
>Note: The parameter list of the fileselect box  procedure has been chosen very
>similar to the corresponding GFA dialog. So moving to the new dialog should be
>easy.
>
>Thanks to all who have contributed to the listing.
>
>Regards Juergen
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Hi Joe,
They are coming. I try to keep 4 or 5 weeks ahead on the news letters so
contributions don't always show up right away. Thanks again.
Dale

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> List Member "EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" <JoeHurst@snafu.de> wrote:
> > Do you have some small GFA routines that you are willing to have
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> > in the the 'Not Affiliated With GFA News Letter' ?  I think it safe to
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> How about the list of routines I sent you some weeks ago?
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> If that's not what you mean let me know.

John,

Thats exactly what I mean.

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List Member John Findlay <Jayef@compuserve.com> wrote:

Tom,

>I just wanted to make some data files *look* so impressive that no
user would mess with them.<

An easy (no sophisticated) way to encrypt data/files is just to XOR with =
a
known value whilst saving it and XOR with the same value when loading.

Very fast, very simple.

PRINT XOR(9, $F5)      ' gives a value of 252
PRINT XOR(252, $F5)    ' gets back the original value of 9

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I'm am currently writing a 32 bit library for the new style common dialog=
s,
OPEN/SAVE/FONT/COLOR/PRINT/PAGESETUP. =


The implementation from the GFA side would require the setting up of the
appropriate structures; not as simple as using the GFA DLG OPEN command.

Would anyone use it? Would anyone like to test it? It will be ready in th=
e
next few days.

Reply to mailing-list or privately, I don't mind which.

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Subject: [gfabasic] Serious question   2905xx1-
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
29/05/99 03:41:25 AM   Serious question   2905xx1-

Using the following, is there no legitament means of accessing the file once
it's in memory?  A means of manipulating it, editing it, then going to the
2nd half to write it to disk once again?  Would solve a lot of problems if
possible!

' hugew2c.lst some mods by TomR.
' HugeRead & HugeWrite routines using API's _hread() & _hwrite().
' John Findlay/Roland Walter

dh&  = _DRIVE
ph$ = DIR$(0)
home$ = CHR$(dh&) + ":" + ph$
IF RIGHT$(home$,1) <> "\" THEN
  home$ = home$ + "\"
ENDIF

hkernel& = LoadLibrary("kernel.dll")  // Needed for _hread/_hwrite etc

OPENW #1, 2, 0, _X - 20, _Y - 20, ~15
FILESELECT "*.*","",n1$
CHDRIVE dh&
CHDIR home$

OPEN "I",#1, n1$
lenght% = LOF( #1)
lpMem% = MALLOC(lenght%)
CLOSE #1

' Read in Huge Block or Small Block
OPEN "I", #1, n1$
PRINT "Read File Size", LOF(#1)
PRINT "Bytes Read", @HugeRead(_FILE(1), lpMem%, lenght%)
CLOSE #1

n1& = RINSTR(n1$,"\")
n2$ = home$ + RIGHT$(n1$,LEN(n1$) - n1&)

' Write out Huge Block or Small Block
OPEN "O", #1, n2$
PRINT "The Bytes Sent", @HugeWrite(_FILE(1), lpMem%, lenght%)
CLOSE #1


~MFREE(lpMem%)
IF hkernel&  THEN ~FreeLibrary(hkernel&)
KEYGET l
CLOSEW #1
EDIT


FUNCTION  HugeRead(hFile&, lpBuffer%, lBytes%)
  RETURN P:(GetProcAddress(hkernel&, "_hread"))(hFile&, L:lpBuffer%, L:lBytes%)
ENDFUNC


FUNCTION  HugeWrite(hFile&, lpBuffer%, lBytes%)
  RETURN P:(GetProcAddress(hkernel&, "_hwrite"))(hFile&, L:lpBuffer%, L:lBytes%)
ENDFUNC

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
John
Interesting, indeed... Thank you.
<G>
TomR.


At 03:13 AM 29/05/99 -0400, you wrote:
>List Member John Findlay <Jayef@compuserve.com> wrote:
>
>Tom,
>
>>I just wanted to make some data files *look* so impressive that no
>user would mess with them.<
>
>An easy (no sophisticated) way to encrypt data/files is just to XOR with a
>known value whilst saving it and XOR with the same value when loading.
>
>Very fast, very simple.
>
>PRINT XOR(9, $F5)      ' gives a value of 252
>PRINT XOR(252, $F5)    ' gets back the original value of 9
>
>John
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Subject: RE: [gfabasic] des3w revisited
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List Member "EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" <JoeHurst@snafu.de> wrote:
> can mess them up, but can easily add to them & I don't have to go
> thru the circus act of adding & encoding from within my appl.
Ok.
Why not this way:
Read the entire file into one big string, XOR every char with 16 or something
else and write the string back to the file. Leave out any ASC(10) and ASC(13)
when encoding.
If nobody knows that you used XOR, nobody will try to decode.
When you access the file per line, read the wished line and XOR it again with 16
or something else and you have your origin text back.

This way is very fast and very easy to implement.

Bye, Joe
' encode
a$="This is Tom's secret text and nobody knows about its content."
Print a$
For t%= 1 To Len(a$)
  a%=Asc(Mid$(a$,t%,1))
  a%=a% Xor 16
  Mid$(a$,t%,1)=Chr$(a%)
  ' or, shorter, for single lines: Mid$(a$,t%,1)=Chr$(Asc(Mid$(a$,t%,1)) Xor 16)
Next t%
Print a$
' decode: this is exactly the same way as encoding!

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Oh, lordie... this is becoming interesting!  Very!  <GGG>

Joe, I can poke all those archive files on my website if you'd rather
not have to handle the bulk.  You can download what you want of them
& not have the whole lot of'em on your hands if you'd rather.  Mine
is free, but some have had trouble getting large files down from it.

I'll do that this evening when I can get online & stay for a spell.
At 16,400, it takes a while to upload all of that.  I'll need to
add them to the page that's there this afternoon.

I hope something in them proves of value to somebody.  I've been drawn
to including the lha.obj file & not have to carry a *.dll around.
<G>
TomR.



At 11:02 AM 29/05/99 +0200, you wrote:
>List Member "EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" <JoeHurst@snafu.de> wrote:
>> can mess them up, but can easily add to them & I don't have to go
>> thru the circus act of adding & encoding from within my appl.
>Ok.
>Why not this way:
>Read the entire file into one big string, XOR every char with 16 or something
>else and write the string back to the file. Leave out any ASC(10) and ASC(13)
>when encoding.
>If nobody knows that you used XOR, nobody will try to decode.
>When you access the file per line, read the wished line and XOR it again
with 16
>or something else and you have your origin text back.
>
>This way is very fast and very easy to implement.
>
>Bye, Joe
>' encode
>a$="This is Tom's secret text and nobody knows about its content."
>Print a$
>For t%= 1 To Len(a$)
>  a%=Asc(Mid$(a$,t%,1))
>  a%=a% Xor 16
>  Mid$(a$,t%,1)=Chr$(a%)
>  ' or, shorter, for single lines: Mid$(a$,t%,1)=Chr$(Asc(Mid$(a$,t%,1))
Xor 16)
>Next t%
>Print a$
>' decode: this is exactly the same way as encoding!
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List Member "Eberhard Funck" <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de> wrote:
Hi NT user,

If I work with the 32 bit function SetCurrentDirectoryA
under NT4.0, this function doesn't work.
The Return value is TRUE, thats right, but thats all.
I use the Gfa32s.dll for calling it.
 '
DLL #1, "Gfa32s.dll"
  DECL DWORD GetCurrentDirectory32 (l,l)
  DECL DWORD SetCurrentDirectory32 (l)
ENDDLL
'
puffer$ = SPACE$(260)
LSET puffer$ = CHR$(0)
~^GetCurrentDirectory32 (260, V:puffer$)
PRINT puffer$ /*current directory
/* thats OK, but in NT you receive the DOS file name, and in W9x the Long
file name.
PRINT ^SetCurrentDirectory32 ("F:\GFAWIN") /* another directory in the same
drive
puffer$ = SPACE$(260)
LSET puffer$ = CHR$(0)
~^GetCurrentDirectory32 (260, V:puffer$)
PRINT puffer$  /* every time the same directory like upstairs
'
OPENW #1, 0, 0, 600, 400, -1
DO
UNTIL LEN (INKEY$)
CLOSEW #1
FREEDLL 1
END

Can a NT user test it?

Eberhard


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List Member "Afonso Gustavo B. Martins" <afonsogustavo@abordo.com.br> wrote:
Hi,
Why not associate a random efect to the XOR routine?
the resultant coded string appears to be "more encrypted"...

INPUT "Key number";P
a$ = "This is Tom's secret text and nobody knows about its content."
? a$
RANDOMIZE P
FOR t% = 1 TO LEN(a$)
  a% = ASC(MID$(a$,t%,1))
  a% = a% XOR  INT( RND(0) * 100)
  MID$(a$,t%,1) = CHR$(a%)
NEXT t%
?
? a$
RANDOMIZE P
FOR t% = 1 TO LEN(a$)
  a% = ASC(MID$(a$,t%,1))
  a% = a% XOR INT( RND(0) * 100)
  MID$(a$,t%,1) = CHR$(a%)
NEXT t%
?
? a$

KEYGET aaa




"EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" wrote:

> List Member "EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" <JoeHurst@snafu.de> wrote:
> > can mess them up, but can easily add to them & I don't have to go
> > thru the circus act of adding & encoding from within my appl.
> Ok.
> Why not this way:
> Read the entire file into one big string, XOR every char with 16 or something
> else and write the string back to the file. Leave out any ASC(10) and ASC(13)
> when encoding.
> If nobody knows that you used XOR, nobody will try to decode.
> When you access the file per line, read the wished line and XOR it again with 16
> or something else and you have your origin text back.
>
> This way is very fast and very easy to implement.
>
> Bye, Joe
> ' encode
> a$="This is Tom's secret text and nobody knows about its content."
> Print a$
> For t%= 1 To Len(a$)
>   a%=Asc(Mid$(a$,t%,1))
>   a%=a% Xor 16
>   Mid$(a$,t%,1)=Chr$(a%)
>   ' or, shorter, for single lines: Mid$(a$,t%,1)=Chr$(Asc(Mid$(a$,t%,1)) Xor 16)
> Next t%
> Print a$
> ' decode: this is exactly the same way as encoding!
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
30/05/99 02:58:09 AM   archive pkgs   3005JH1-

Joe

9 pkgs, as follows:

cab.zip      725K
compress.zip 938K this contains many other files
lhapk1.zip   887K
lhapkg2.zip 1.16M
lz1.zip      157K
rarpkg1.zip 1.08M
rarpkg2.zip  585K
zip1.zip     379K
zlib16.zip  35.8K
=========== 5.86M

Filenames depict contents except for the one
named "compress"... this one has a large
variety of appls from various sources & is
probably worth having for good coverage.

Some contain source code.

URL to retrieve them:
http://TiGeR1.webjump.com/arcvs/filename.zip

Thanks
<G>
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Afonso
Thank you, & welcome to the "discussion".  It's worth playing with.
I've discoverd that one can sort of dictate the outcome by selection
of the number used in the operation.  It tends to work in "zones" &
can make a file that is all unprintable charactors, leaving little to
work with should one want to try to decipher it.

Your addition just may discourage pretty good hackers, too.  If one
worked in one of the compression methods I just uploaded to my website,
I wonder who would accept the challenge of finding out what one of the
files contained?  It could bring only minimal satisfaction & as far as
I can see, nothing else <G>.  The goal is simply to discourage tampering.

<G>
TomR.


At 01:51 AM 30/05/99 -0300, you wrote:
>List Member "Afonso Gustavo B. Martins" <afonsogustavo@abordo.com.br> wrote:
>Hi,
>Why not associate a random efect to the XOR routine?
>the resultant coded string appears to be "more encrypted"...
>
>INPUT "Key number";P
>a$ = "This is Tom's secret text and nobody knows about its content."
>? a$
>RANDOMIZE P
>FOR t% = 1 TO LEN(a$)
>  a% = ASC(MID$(a$,t%,1))
>  a% = a% XOR  INT( RND(0) * 100)
>  MID$(a$,t%,1) = CHR$(a%)
>NEXT t%
>?
>? a$
>RANDOMIZE P
>FOR t% = 1 TO LEN(a$)
>  a% = ASC(MID$(a$,t%,1))
>  a% = a% XOR INT( RND(0) * 100)
>  MID$(a$,t%,1) = CHR$(a%)
>NEXT t%
>?
>? a$
>
>KEYGET aaa
>
>
>
>
>"EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" wrote:
>
>> List Member "EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" <JoeHurst@snafu.de> wrote:
>> > can mess them up, but can easily add to them & I don't have to go
>> > thru the circus act of adding & encoding from within my appl.
>> Ok.
>> Why not this way:
>> Read the entire file into one big string, XOR every char with 16 or something
>> else and write the string back to the file. Leave out any ASC(10) and ASC(13)
>> when encoding.
>> If nobody knows that you used XOR, nobody will try to decode.
>> When you access the file per line, read the wished line and XOR it again
with 16
>> or something else and you have your origin text back.
>>
>> This way is very fast and very easy to implement.
>>
>> Bye, Joe
>> ' encode
>> a$="This is Tom's secret text and nobody knows about its content."
>> Print a$
>> For t%= 1 To Len(a$)
>>   a%=Asc(Mid$(a$,t%,1))
>>   a%=a% Xor 16
>>   Mid$(a$,t%,1)=Chr$(a%)
>>   ' or, shorter, for single lines: Mid$(a$,t%,1)=Chr$(Asc(Mid$(a$,t%,1))
Xor 16)
>> Next t%
>> Print a$
>> ' decode: this is exactly the same way as encoding!
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List Member "EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" <JoeHurst@snafu.de> wrote:
> Filenames depict contents except for the one
> named "compress"... this one has a large
> variety of appls from various sources & is
> probably worth having for good coverage.
Great, Tiger.
Now: are you able to keep these files on your page for a long time so I can add
a link on my page? Dale will surely do the same, but the files must resist for a
long time!

Bye, Joe

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List Member "EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" <JoeHurst@snafu.de> wrote:
> Your addition just may discourage pretty good hackers, too.
Hm, hack-attacks cannot be stopped with random-numbers (it takes only time to
find the right one).
Therefor you perhaps should first convert the text to MiMe-format, switch every
two letters, mirror the whole string, insert dummy-characters at different
positions (use a big prime-number and interpret it digit by digit) and use every
three characters a new random-number.
MiMe: I made a souce encoding and decoding with Visual Basic which can easily be
translated to GfaBasic. You'll find it on http://www.jhurst.de in the
programmers area in the visual basic section ("Black Box for VB". The sources
(*.bas) are plain ascii).

Bye, Joe


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List Member "EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" <JoeHurst@snafu.de> wrote:
> Why not associate a random efect to the XOR routine?
Sure, why not. Simple XOR is the first step in encoding-technology. Randomized
keys are the next step, switching parts of the string (for example with Mirror$)
would be the next up, growing up to very complicated algorythms.

Your source contains two minor problems:
KeyNumber "P" should be integer, not double, -> P%
aaa is a waste of memory (and another double for integer-results)

;-)
Not so serious,
  Joe

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Till hell freezes over <G>.  I'll add'em to the site page so more than 
one can be pulled down in one trip.  Sorry, I hadn't considered doing
this before... the site is there but I do very little with it.  It is
25M & FREE but for that banner at the top.

I have other crap I should put up also.  Don't link to the files...
link to the site page & I'll get a new one up today.

<G>
TomR.


At 07:48 PM 30/05/99 +0200, you wrote:
>List Member "EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" <JoeHurst@snafu.de> wrote:
>> Filenames depict contents except for the one
>> named "compress"... this one has a large
>> variety of appls from various sources & is
>> probably worth having for good coverage.
>Great, Tiger.
>Now: are you able to keep these files on your page for a long time so I can add
>a link on my page? Dale will surely do the same, but the files must resist
for a
>long time!
>
>Bye, Joe
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Joe & Afonso

"des3w revisited" = "des3w replaced without a *.dll"!!!  Now we're really
cooking!  We're delving into some very clever & mischevious minds now!!!

Not to put des3w sown at all, but I think we must be playing around with
the same ideas, refining them & keeping them out in the open so they can
be understood & enhanced.  Great work, guys.

May I ask a semi-related question, please?  When something is "compiled",
it is made binary by a process often called "parsing".  I've seen no real
explanation of "parsing"... any hints?  This is because of where we are
now getting with cameoflaging these data files... they look "binary" as
opposed to "text" in any kind of viewer.

As I understand some of *this*, it becomes necessary to determine a header
for the file then arrange the remainder into some specific pattern.  As
"much" as I "know", I also know that there is far more to understand.

Encryption is getting a real workout!  Great going!
<G>
TomR.


At 07:48 PM 30/05/99 +0200, you wrote:
>List Member "EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" <JoeHurst@snafu.de> wrote:
>> Your addition just may discourage pretty good hackers, too.
>Hm, hack-attacks cannot be stopped with random-numbers (it takes only time to
>find the right one).
>Therefor you perhaps should first convert the text to MiMe-format, switch every
>two letters, mirror the whole string, insert dummy-characters at different
>positions (use a big prime-number and interpret it digit by digit) and use
every
>three characters a new random-number.
>MiMe: I made a souce encoding and decoding with Visual Basic which can
easily be
>translated to GfaBasic. You'll find it on http://www.jhurst.de in the
>programmers area in the visual basic section ("Black Box for VB". The sources
>(*.bas) are plain ascii).
>
>Bye, Joe
>
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
http://TiGeR1.webjump.com

Now on the default.htm, 9 archiver packages.  All pkgs are WinZip *.zip.

I was searching for a means of including archive capability in my own
*.exes... some of these pkgs contain the archiver sources, some have
only my (or others') GFA-W source for using them.  There is one *.obj
file that can be linked directly into a GFA-W *.exe, eliminating the
need to include a *.dll.  *This* is what I wanted!

*.cab makes the smallest files, but can only be done by calling one of
several external *.exes into play to perform the job.

I have heard some bitching about webjump, but I have no trouble getting
in or downloading from it.  The only cost for 25M is the banner at the 
top of the display.  I've seen no popup commercials on my page or on the
pages of several friends who have joined me there.

I have no intention of moving to another provider, so these files should
be stabile where they are.

<G>
TomR.

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Subject: [gfabasic] RTF and Win 3.1
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List Member BDD <BrentDeck@compuserve.com> wrote:
John,

In win 3.1 the following hangs up on the first declaration.

Do you know a work-around?

Thanks,

Brent.

***********************************************************
from Example2.gfw

  DLL #1,"kernel"
    DECL DWORD LoadLibraryEx32W(l,l,l)  //  Hangs on this line
    DECL BOOL  FreeLibrary32W(l)
    DECL DWORD GetProcAddress32W(l,l)
    DECL DWORD GetVDMPointer32W(l,w)
  ENDDLL

 =

'=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
  ' Obtain adress of CallProc32W by which 32-bits DLL functions are calle=
d.
 =

'=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
  lpf32% =3D GetProcAddress(GetModuleHandle("kernel"), "CallProc32W")

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List Member John Findlay <Jayef@compuserve.com> wrote:

Brent,

>In win 3.1 the following hangs up on the first declaration.<

Yes, that example does use Win95 32 bit calls. There is no way around it
because it uses a 'rich text control'. It will work if you take out ALL t=
he
Win95 stuff and load the resource into memory though. I don't mind helpin=
g
if you need it; would you prefer me to send a different example? Sorry
Brent I forgot that you run Win3.1



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List Member BDD <BrentDeck@compuserve.com> wrote:
>>>
Yes, that example does use Win95 32 bit calls. There is no way around it
because it uses a 'rich text control'. =

<<<

John,

Thanks. Your info on handling resources is clear.

Actually, I'm now trying to figure out how to call the riched32.dll from
gfa in win 3.1.

The dll is included in the win32s system subdirectory.

I'm fairly certain this info has been covered here before, but I can't
locate it.

How does one make calls to a 32-bit dll  from win 3.1?

Regards,

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List Member "Eberhard Funck" <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de> wrote:
Brent,

You don't call a 32 bit function from W3.1 out of an 16 bit application,
because this W3.1 - "Kernel" has not such function as "LoadLibrary32W",
and so on, like W9x.

Also it is not possible to load the Riched32.dll in a 16 bit App. with
the 32 bit LoadLibrary function (Kernel32.dll) undwer W9x.
The return-value of this function is always < 32. That means an error.

Please forget to work with this DLL. I had spend many times
with this DLL and I had no chance, that the dll runs.
And you want to work with 32 bit DLLs under W3.1 and than
with the Riched32.dll?

It gives better thinks to do.

Eberhard.

 




>
>Thanks. Your info on handling resources is clear.
>
>Actually, I'm now trying to figure out how to call the riched32.dll from
>gfa in win 3.1.
>
>The dll is included in the win32s system subdirectory.
>
>I'm fairly certain this info has been covered here before, but I can't
>locate it.
>
>How does one make calls to a 32-bit dll  from win 3.1?
>
>Regards,
>
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List Member "Roland Walter" <alibaba@zedat.fu-berlin.de> wrote:

> >In win 3.1 the following hangs up on the first declaration.<
Also if You have Win32s this will not work because the Win32s 
API has no "WOW" functions wich are needed if You like to use 
functions provided by a 32 bit DLL.
 
> Yes, that example does use Win95 32 bit calls. There is no way around it
> because it uses a 'rich text control'.
This is not fully correct. The normally used RICHED32.DLL is of 
course 32bit. But there also exist a RICHED16.DLL. I saw this DLL 
in Microsoft Office but may be this DLL is also a part of Windows 
Versions after Win95 (Win95b...). I do'nt know this because I use 
the "old" Win95.
Microsoft has not only built several new 32bit functions but also the 
16bit API. The do'nt speak a lot about this but it's a fact. Use the 
GFA Basic tool EXPORTS.EXE to determine wich in 32bit API 
described functions also exist in 16bit API.
The RICHED16.DLL You also can use under Windows 3.x (!!!), but 
there is a problem: Some functionality is different from the 32bit 
version of this DLL. I had ot the time to find out how to handle the 
16bit DLL completely but I will do this later...
What can You do with the RICHED16.DLL WITHOUT using 32bit 
functions:
You can:
- simply create a Richedit window
- simply set unformatted text in and load out
- simply make several formattings with existing text
- copy+paste unformatted text with some extra code
I hope to find out how to:
- direct load RTF text
- copy+paste direct

It could be more simple to find out how to do the missing 
functionality if anybody has 16bit Visual Basic because the 16bit 
RICHEDIT VBX is based on the RICHED16.DLL. If the VBX can do 
the missing things the DLL must also can do it.

Bye, Roland Walter

Bye, Roland

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List Member J.Burgmeier@t-online.de (Juergen Burgmeier) wrote:
| Can a NT user test it?

Hi Eberhard,
I tested it and can completely confirm your findings.
The difference between Win95/98 and WinNT 4.0  seems to be 
much wider than expected.
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Roland
I'll send you VB2 to play with in return for you writing a short
but useably detailed outline on calling *.vbx.

*.vbx & *.ocx are just *.dlls, but there is something different
about how you must call them.  I've had no success although many
are 16-bit.

Sincs GFA has gone to 42-free, $$$$-thereafter-by-the-minute for
support, I cannot afford to ask them for any kind of help.  MS
all over again!
<G>
TomR.



At 09:05 PM 31/05/99 +0200, you wrote:
>List Member "Roland Walter" <alibaba@zedat.fu-berlin.de> wrote:
>
>> >In win 3.1 the following hangs up on the first declaration.<
>Also if You have Win32s this will not work because the Win32s 
>API has no "WOW" functions wich are needed if You like to use 
>functions provided by a 32 bit DLL.
> 
>> Yes, that example does use Win95 32 bit calls. There is no way around it
>> because it uses a 'rich text control'.
>This is not fully correct. The normally used RICHED32.DLL is of 
>course 32bit. But there also exist a RICHED16.DLL. I saw this DLL 
>in Microsoft Office but may be this DLL is also a part of Windows 
>Versions after Win95 (Win95b...). I do'nt know this because I use 
>the "old" Win95.
>Microsoft has not only built several new 32bit functions but also the 
>16bit API. The do'nt speak a lot about this but it's a fact. Use the 
>GFA Basic tool EXPORTS.EXE to determine wich in 32bit API 
>described functions also exist in 16bit API.
>The RICHED16.DLL You also can use under Windows 3.x (!!!), but 
>there is a problem: Some functionality is different from the 32bit 
>version of this DLL. I had ot the time to find out how to handle the 
>16bit DLL completely but I will do this later...
>What can You do with the RICHED16.DLL WITHOUT using 32bit 
>functions:
>You can:
>- simply create a Richedit window
>- simply set unformatted text in and load out
>- simply make several formattings with existing text
>- copy+paste unformatted text with some extra code
>I hope to find out how to:
>- direct load RTF text
>- copy+paste direct
>
>It could be more simple to find out how to do the missing 
>functionality if anybody has 16bit Visual Basic because the 16bit 
>RICHEDIT VBX is based on the RICHED16.DLL. If the VBX can do 
>the missing things the DLL must also can do it.
>
>Bye, Roland Walter
>
>Bye, Roland
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Brent,

>Actually, I'm now trying to figure out how to call the riched32.dll from=

gfa in win 3.1.<

If you look at my listing it uses Riched.dll (16 bit); =


  hRtfLib =3D LoadLibrary("Riched.dll")


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List Member John Findlay <Jayef@compuserve.com> wrote:

Roland,

>This is not fully correct<

You're right, I just checked my listing and it uses the 16 bit dll
(Riched.dll).

>>- direct load RTF text<

The listing included in rtfhelp.zip does directly load RTF text from disk=
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Imported non-resident functions of RICHED.DLL:

DEINITMEMMGRRE	2
Rich Edit DLL	0

Exported resident functions of RICHED.DLL:

___EXPORTEDSTUB	56
_OBADVISESINK_ONCLOSE	8
_OBADVISESINK_ONDATACHANGE	45
_OBADVISESINK_ONRENAME	82
_OBADVISESINK_ONSAVE	16
_OBADVISESINK_ONVIEWCHANGE	77
_OBCLIPSTG_ADDREF	42
_OBCLIPSTG_COMMIT	20
_OBCLIPSTG_COPYTO	13
_OBCLIPSTG_CREATESTORAGE	73
_OBCLIPSTG_CREATESTREAM	86
_OBCLIPSTG_DESTROYELEMENT	12
_OBCLIPSTG_ENUMELEMENTS	11
_OBCLIPSTG_MOVEELEMENTTO	64
_OBCLIPSTG_OPENSTORAGE	96
_OBCLIPSTG_OPENSTREAM	33
_OBCLIPSTG_QUERYINTERFACE	17
_OBCLIPSTG_RELEASE	110
_OBCLIPSTG_REVERT	19
_OBCLIPSTG_SETCLASS	55
_OBCLIPSTG_SETELEMENTTIMES	29
_OBCLIPSTG_SETSTATEBITS	67
_OBCLIPSTG_STAT	44
_OBCONTAINER_ADDREF	9
_OBCONTAINER_QUERYINTERFACE	62
_OBCONTAINER_RELEASE	38
_OBDATAOBJ_ADDREF	18
_OBDATAOBJ_DADVISE	102
_OBDATAOBJ_DUNADVISE	105
_OBDATAOBJ_ENUMDADVISE	68
_OBDATAOBJ_ENUMFORMATETC	43
_OBDATAOBJ_GETCANONICALFORMATETC	83
_OBDATAOBJ_GETDATA	88
_OBDATAOBJ_GETDATAHERE	22
_OBDATAOBJ_QUERYGETDATA	81
_OBDATAOBJ_QUERYINTERFACE	51
_OBDATAOBJ_RELEASE	87
_OBDATAOBJ_SETDATA	89
_OBDRAGDROP_ADDREF	10
_OBDRAGDROP_QUERYINTERFACE	97
_OBDRAGDROP_RELEASE	78
_OBDROPSOURCE_GIVEFEEDBACK	71
_OBDROPSOURCE_QUERYCONTINUEDRAG	70
_OBDROPTARGET_DRAGENTER	54
_OBDROPTARGET_DRAGLEAVE	49
_OBDROPTARGET_DRAGOVER	36
_OBDROPTARGET_DROP	28
_OBENUMFMTETC_ADDREF	40
_OBENUMFMTETC_CLONE	95
_OBENUMFMTETC_NEXT	79
_OBENUMFMTETC_QUERYINTERFACE	94
_OBENUMFMTETC_RELEASE	41
_OBENUMFMTETC_RESET	104
_OBENUMFMTETC_SKIP	98
_OBOLECLIENTSITE_GETCONTAINER	90
_OBOLECLIENTSITE_GETMONIKER	100
_OBOLECLIENTSITE_ONSHOWWINDOW	53
_OBOLECLIENTSITE_REQUESTNEWOBJECTLAYOUT	93
_OBOLECLIENTSITE_SAVEOBJECT	59
_OBOLECLIENTSITE_SHOWOBJECT	47
_OBOLEINPLACESITE_CANINPLACEACTIVATE	14
_OBOLEINPLACESITE_CONTEXTSENSITIVEHELP	91
_OBOLEINPLACESITE_DEACTIVATEANDUNDO	31
_OBOLEINPLACESITE_DISCARDUNDOSTATE	101
_OBOLEINPLACESITE_GETWINDOW	48
_OBOLEINPLACESITE_GETWINDOWCONTEXT	61
_OBOLEINPLACESITE_ONINPLACEACTIVATE	107
_OBOLEINPLACESITE_ONINPLACEDEACTIVATE	15
_OBOLEINPLACESITE_ONPOSRECTCHANGE	65
_OBOLEINPLACESITE_ONUIACTIVATE	69
_OBOLEINPLACESITE_ONUIDEACTIVATE	99
_OBOLEINPLACESITE_SCROLL	25
_OBRICHEDITOLE_ACTIVATEAS	4
_OBRICHEDITOLE_CONTEXTSENSITIVEHELP	39
_OBRICHEDITOLE_CONVERTOBJECT	66
_OBRICHEDITOLE_GETCLIENTSITE	34
_OBRICHEDITOLE_GETCLIPBOARDDATA	92
_OBRICHEDITOLE_GETLINKCOUNT	6
_OBRICHEDITOLE_GETOBJECT	84
_OBRICHEDITOLE_GETOBJECTCOUNT	23
_OBRICHEDITOLE_HANDSOFFSTORAGE	5
_OBRICHEDITOLE_IMPORTDATAOBJECT	103
_OBRICHEDITOLE_INPLACEDEACTIVATE	109
_OBRICHEDITOLE_INSERTOBJECT	58
_OBRICHEDITOLE_SAVECOMPLETED	30
_OBRICHEDITOLE_SETDVASPECT	60
_OBRICHEDITOLE_SETHOSTNAMES	52
_OBRICHEDITOLE_SETLINKAVAILABLE	63
_OBSITE_ADDREF	57
_OBSITE_QUERYINTERFACE	108
_OBSITE_RELEASE	7
ATTENUMFONT	21
ENUMMETAFILECHECKICON	74
FINITMEMMGRRE	3
FREEPVNULLRE	106
FREEPVNULLSRE	27
FREEPVRE	80
FREEPVSRE	37
OBESREADCLIPTEXTISTREAM	32
OBESREADISTREAM	85
OBESWRITEISTREAM	75
OBOLESTREAM_GET	26
OBOLESTREAM_PUT	46
PVALLOCRE	35
PVALLOCSRE	50
PVREALLOCRE	76
PVREALLOCSRE	72
RICHED	0
RICHEDITWNDPROC	24
WEP	1

Version info for RICHED.DLL:

CompanyName       Microsoft Corporation
FileDescription   Windows 95 Rich Text E
FileVersion       Windows 95 Rich Text E
InternalName      Windows 95 Rich Text E
LegalCopyright    Windows 95 Rich Text E
OriginalFilename  Windows 95 Rich Text E
ProductName       Windows 95 Rich Text E
ProductVersion    Windows 95 Rich Text E

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
riched.dll can't be used in Win3.1 alone.......

Verkn=FCpftes %s
Unbekannter Typ
VS_VERSION_INFO
StringFileInfo
CompanyName
Microsoft Corporation
FileDescription
Windows 95 Rich Text Edit Control <--------------------------------------
FileVersion=B74.00.993.4
InternalName richedit
LegalCopyright Copyright =A9 Microsoft Corp. 1986-1996
OriginalFilename RICHED.DLL
ProductName=B7Microsoft=AE Windows(TM) Operating System
ProductVersion 4.0 040704E4
CompanyName Microsoft Corporation
FileDescription Windows 95 Rich Text Edit Control <-----------------------
FileVersion 4.00.993.4
InternalName richedit
LegalCopyright Copyright =A9 Microsoft Corp. 1986-1996
OriginalFilename RICHED.DLL
ProductName=B7Microsoft=AE Windows(TM) Operating System
ProductVersion=B7=B74.0
VarFileInfo
Translation

af
afs
ansi
ansicpg
b
bin
blue
bullet
cb
cell
cf
colortbl
cpg
deff
deflang
deftab
deleted
dn
dy
emdash
endash
f
fbidi
fchars
fcharset
fdecor
fi
field
fldinst
fldrslt
fmodern
fname
fnil
fontemb
fontfile
fonttbl
footer
footerf
footerl
footerr
footnote
fprq
froman
fs
fscript
fswiss
ftech
ftncn
ftnsep
ftnsepc
green
header
headerf
headerl
headerr
horzdoc
hr
i
info
intbl
lang
lchars
ldblquote
li
line
lnkd
lquote
ltrch
ltrdoc
ltrmark
ltrpar
mac
macpict
margl
marglsxn
margr
margrsxn
min
mo
nocwrap
nooverflow
nosupersub
nowwrap
objattph
objautlink
objclass
objcropb
objcropl
objcropr
objcropt
objdata
object
objh
objicemb
objname
objpub
obj
scalex
objscaley
objsetsize
objsub
objw
par
pard
pc
pca
piccropb
piccropl
piccropr
piccropt
pich
pichgoal
picscalex
picscaley
pict
picw
picwgoal
plain
pmmetafile
pn
pnindent
pnlvlblt
pntext
pntxta
pntxtb
protect
qc
ql
qr
rdblquote
red
result
revauth
revised
ri
row
rquote
rtf
rtlch
rtldoc
rtlmark
rtlpar
sec
sect
sectd
strike
stylesheet
sub
super
tab
tb
tc
tx
ul
uld
uldash
uldashd
uldashdd
uldb
ulhair
ulnone
ulth
ulw
ulwave
up
v
vertdoc
wbmbitspixel
wbmplanes
wbmwidthbytes
xe
yr
zwj
zwnj

\lquote
\rquote
\ldblquote
\rdblquote
\bullet
\endash
\emdash
\ql
\qr
\qc

wbitmap
wmetafile
dibitmap
objemb
objlink
objautolink

ScrollInset
windows
Object Descriptor
Embedded Object
Embed Source
Link Source
RICHED16
Rich Text Format
Rich Text Format Without Objects
RichEdit Text and Objects
FileName=B7=B7Object1

FRichEditFlags
ObjInfo
FIconOnly
RICHED16
ProcessWriting
CorrectWriting
TPtoDP

System
SYMBOL
\rtf1\ansi\deff0\deftab%ld=B7\'%02x=B7=B7\objattph\'20=B7\%c=B7\
\fonttbl=B7\cpg%d=B7=B7{\f%d\f%s=B7\fprq%d=B7\fcharset%d=B7;\*\fname

roman
swiss
modern
script
decor
nil
{\colortbl=B7=B7\red%d\green%d\blue%d;=B7=B7\plain=B7=B7\b=B7=B7\i=B7=B7\ul=
=B7\strike=B7\protect=B7=B7\l
nkd=B7\tab =B7\par
=B7\pard=B7\f%d=B7=B7\fs%d=B7\cf%d=B7\dn%d=B7\up%d=B7\li%ld=B7=B7\ri%ld=B7=
=B7\fi%ld=B7=B7\tx%ld=B7=B7{\*\pn\
pnlvlblt\pnf%d\pnindent%ld{\pntxtb\'b7}}=B7{\pntext\f1\'b7\tab}=B7=B7\deflan=
g%d=B7=B7\
lang%d=B7B=B7=B7=B7=FF=FF=B7=B7=FF=FF=B7=B7=FF=FF=B7=B7\pic=B7=B7\obj=B7=B7%=
sw%d=B7%sh%d=B7%sscalex%d=B7=B7%sscaley%d=B7=B7%scro
pt%d=B7%scropb%d=B7%scropl%d=B7%scropr%d=B7{\pict\%s%d=B7\picwgoal%d=B7\pich=
goal%d=B7{\obj
ect\%s=B7{\*\objclass
{\*\objname
{\*\objdata
{\result =B7\objsetsize=B7\objupdate
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Hi Roland!

>It's correct: This DLL does not support passwort protection, but=20
>anywhere: It's the best UnZip-DLL I ever found.

I think that this is true, but I need a solution for password-protection =
and for
zipping and unzipping. And both I can not do with this dll.

By the time I use the real exe-files of zip and unzip but under Win3.11 =
this
do not work every time and then the systems hangs.

Many thanks,
Kind regards
Thomas

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Thomas=20

Just a simpleton's question...
If you add one charactor to the beginning of the header, NO program
will unzip it.  Your receiving end should know to remove this char.

I don't know about solving your problems here, but... on my website
are several packages of archiving appls & some of them contain source
code.  Take a look... perhaps something there will suit you.

http://TiGeR1.webjump.com/

<G>
TomR.


At 09:05 AM 01/06/99 +-200, you wrote:
>Hi Roland!
>
>>It's correct: This DLL does not support passwort protection, but=20
>>anywhere: It's the best UnZip-DLL I ever found.
>
>I think that this is true, but I need a solution for password-protection
and for
>zipping and unzipping. And both I can not do with this dll.
>
>By the time I use the real exe-files of zip and unzip but under Win3.11=
 this
>do not work every time and then the systems hangs.
>
>Many thanks,
>Kind regards
>Thomas
>
>P. S. Viele Gruesse zur=FCck ... :-)
>
>
>Attachment Converted: C:\WORLDNET\DOWNLOAD\AWgfabas
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Hi Tom!

>Just a simpleton's question...
>If you add one charactor to the beginning of the header, NO program
>will unzip it.  Your receiving end should know to remove this char.

This sounds great, many thanks. Now I only need a method (DLL?)to =
compress a file into the zip-format. Do you know where I can get =
something?

Many thanks in advance

Yours
Thomas

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
01/06/99 07:49:36 AM   PW & *.zip   0106xx1-

Thomas G. & all interested parties....

Requires 3 subdirs in it's dir... in, orig, & out.  Has one problem 
only, as far as I can see... a single file in the *.zip is NOT 
decodable by WinZip v6+, so I doubt if anything else can decode it.  
If there are more than 1 file in the *.zip, WinZip v6+ will refuse 
only the first one but will decode any others.

Someone very clever should be able to account for all files in the 
*.zip & keep them from being decoded.  I think that actually only one 
digit would suffice, but I also thought that one entry would spoil 
decoding all files in the *.zip.

One other thought... I considered calling the DLGFONT & selecting a
color, then use _ECB as the key.  There're any number of possibilities
available to a clever programmer.

<G>
TomR.

-------------------- cut here for crypto.lst ---------------------

dh&  = _DRIVE
ph$ = DIR$(0)
home$ = CHR$(dh&) + ":" + ph$
IF RIGHT$(home$,1) <> "\" THEN
  home$ = home$ + "\"
ENDIF

hkernel& = LoadLibrary("kernel.dll")  // Needed for _hread/_hwrite etc

OPENW #1, 2, 0, _X - 20, _Y - 20, ~15
FILESELECT "*.*","",n$
CHDRIVE dh&
CHDIR ph$
n& = RINSTR(n$,"\")
SETMOUSE _X / 2,_Y / 2
DEFMOUSE 2
? n&
n1$ = RIGHT$(n$,LEN(n$) - n&)
n2$ = "orig\" + n1$
n3$ = "in\" + n1$
n4$ = "out\" + n1$
? n$
? n1$
? n2$
OPEN "I",#1, n$
lenght% = LOF( #1)
lpMem% = MALLOC(lenght%)
CLOSE #1

' Read in Huge Block or Small Block
OPEN "I", #1, n$
PRINT "Read File Size", LOF(#1)
PRINT "Bytes Read", @HugeRead(_FILE(1), lpMem%, lenght%)
CLOSE #1


' Write out Huge Block or Small Block
OPEN "O", #1, n2$
PRINT "The Bytes Sent", @HugeWrite(_FILE(1), lpMem%, lenght%)
CLOSE #1


~MFREE(lpMem)
IF hkernel&  THEN ~FreeLibrary(hkernel&)
@EnCrypt
@DeCrypt
KEYGET l%
CLOSEW #1
END


PROCEDURE EnCrypt
  DEFMOUSE 2
  OPEN "i",#1, n2$
  OPEN "o",#2, n3$
  c& = LOF( #1)
  FOR i% = 1 TO LOF( #1)
    a$ = INPUT$(1,#1)
    IF i% = 10 THEN
      a$ = a$ + "Thomas" /* change to suit, 1 line below to change
      PRINT #2,a$;
    ELSE
      PRINT #2,a$;
    ENDIF
  NEXT i%
  PRINT n$
  PRINT "LOF(1) ";c&
  PRINT "LOC(2) ";LOC( #2)
  CLOSE #1
  CLOSE #2
RETURN


PROCEDURE DeCrypt
  DEFMOUSE 2
  OPEN "i",#1, n3$
  OPEN "o",#2, n4$
  c& = LOF( #1)
  FOR i% = 1 TO LOF( #1)
    a$ = INPUT$(1,#1)
    IF i% > 10 && i% < 17 THEN /* must be equal to the addition
      @Dumbunny
    ELSE
      PRINT #2,a$;
    ENDIF
  NEXT i%
  PRINT n$
  PRINT "LOF(1) ";c&
  PRINT "LOC(2) ";LOC( #2)
  CLOSE #1
  DEFMOUSE 0
RETURN


PROCEDURE Dumbunny
RETURN


FUNCTION  HugeRead(hFile&, lpBuffer%, lBytes%)
/* this line will wrap to a 2nd line
  RETURN P:(GetProcAddress(hkernel&, "_hread"))(hFile&, L:lpBuffer%, 
L:lBytes%)
ENDFUNC


FUNCTION  HugeWrite(hFile&, lpBuffer%, lBytes%)
/* this line will wrap to a 2nd line
  RETURN P:(GetProcAddress(hkernel&, "_hwrite"))(hFile&, L:lpBuffer%, 
L:lBytes%)
ENDFUNC


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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Hey
Check my website... there is a *.zip package there.  There are a ton 
(6M+) of archivers there & if you want, one has the *.obj file in it
so it can be built into your own program.  This one is LHALib, I
think.  It can be built into your installer if you wish.

http://TiGeR1.webjump.com/

I wanted to go *.cab, but couldn't get my hands on an *.obj file for
it.  *.cab makes the smallest file of all the archivers I looked at.
<G>
TomR.



At 02:25 PM 01/06/99 +-200, you wrote:
>Hi Tom!
>
>>Just a simpleton's question...
>>If you add one charactor to the beginning of the header, NO program
>>will unzip it.  Your receiving end should know to remove this char.
>
>This sounds great, many thanks. Now I only need a method (DLL?)to compress
a file into the zip-format. Do you know where I can get something?
>
>Many thanks in advance
>
>Yours
>Thomas
>
>Attachment Converted: C:\WORLDNET\DOWNLOAD\AWgfaba1 ?????????????????
>

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List Member "Eberhard Funck" <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de> wrote:
Hi J=FCrgen,

Thanks for testing the SetCurrentDirectory32 - function in your system.
I have help me, so that I call in NT direct the fileselectbox style
and in W9.x I call my self made fileselectbox (album.exe).
Both dialogs run with the ALLOWMULTISELECT flag.

Every time the equal think. If your application shall run in W9x and NT
you must a programing different between both systems.
Much work.

Greetings

Eberhard


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>List Member J.Burgmeier@t-online.de (Juergen Burgmeier) wrote:
>| Can a NT user test it?
>
>Hi Eberhard,
>I tested it and can completely confirm your findings.
>The difference between Win95/98 and WinNT 4.0  seems to be
>much wider than expected.
>Bye Juergen
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
JUST POSTED FOR DOWNLOAD from the GFAWHELP web site.
NEWDLG32.ZIP by John Findlay
C lib included.
DON'T MISS IT!!
db

http://www.gfawhelp.gfa.net



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List Member Anthony Watson <awatson@pacifier.com> wrote:
Hi Everyone,

I have traditionally used MKDIR in GFA BASIC to create a new directory.
Unfortunately, this only works with short filenames. I've seen a lot of
talk recently about using long filenames in GFA BASIC, but don't recall
seeing anything about creating and renaming folders? I've only seen one
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looking for a solution that can work under Win 95, 98, or NT.

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Hey, Thomas & others interested...

Have been looking into PWs & *.zip.  It is entirely possible, but
requires an outside GFA-W prog to accomplish.  Yes, even on those 
that contain several files.

Each file has the following 28-byte "header" in front of it...

PK 03 04 14   00 00 00 08   00 xx xx xx   xx xx xx xx   xx xx xx 00
00 xx xx 00   00 11 00 00   00 begin filename

PK is alpha, xx is hex digit that may be different.  All others do
appear to be the same in a *.zip, & are in hex.

So... it stands to reason that putting something into each file's
header will block unzipping.  I *THINK* a single digit will do the
job because it upsets the offset to the file & can be detected &
removed easily.  It remains to simply insert a given, known char
into each header in the area of all 00 pairs to mess things up, then
detect this given, known char & remove it, restoring the offsets.

WinZip v.6+ appears to accept this idea.

Dirty, cheap & crude, but functional!

<G>
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
02/06/99 12:55:30 AM   PW, *.zip, etc.   0206xx1-

I have a mental block.  Please enlighten me.

Pattern or string recognition appears to be the key to messing
up the unzipability of a *.zip file.  I'm not getting anywhere
with trying to build a string to compare with a "standard".

I believe that the addition of one chr$(0) after the 10th char
in the internal file header will keep any de-archiver from doing
the unzip job.  In truth, *any* char would do, but a chr$(0)
might not be noticed quickly by anybody looking into it.  Making
byte #9 anything but chr$(8) *might* do the same thing but I
don't know.  *Adding* bytes after byte #10 *does* work.

"PK" can & does occur without it being an internal file header.
I think it best to count 8 more chars after that & confirm that
they are identical to the "standard" string, which is:

chr$(80)+chr$(75)+chr$(3)+chr$(4)+chr$(20)+chr$(0)+chr$(0)+chr$(0)+
chr$(8)+chr$(0).  This is the first 10 bytes of a valid *.zip file
header.  Internal file's headers are the same to this point.

I'm unsure if adding *1* extra chr$(0) after the 8th byte will do 
the job, but I know for certain that after the 10th it does.

When this condition is met, an additional chr$(0) should be written
to the protected file.  Otherwise, the comparison string should be
taken back to a string of 10 chr$(0)s for reconstruction.

Introduction of the extra chr$(0) in each internal header gives us
another means of checking validity... the overall file size will
increase by the number of added chr$(0)s.  This difference will also
give a direct indication of how many files are in the *.zip

Introduction of this chr$(0) at this point disrupts the offset count
& the de-archivers will spit it back as an invalid *.zip file.  In a
multi-file *.zip, WinZip v6+ will unzip the internal files even if
the first one is judged invalid but they are not.  Only if all of the
internal files are altered this way will WinZip v6+ refuse to unzip
them.

Sorry, but I can't think straight... I'm on the far reach of one of
my meds & am becoming lightheaded.

Assistance will be appreciated, particularly if somebody elects to
persue this quest.  It's the only way I can see to add password
protection to a *.zip file.

While not "instantanious", transfering file contents one byte at a
time & adding one in where appropriate seems "almost instantanious"
on my P-100.  Benchmarking it I'll leave to others - my object is
simply to devise a response to Thomas G.'s question of password
protecting a *.zip

Have a good day.
<G>
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Hi Tom!

>So... it stands to reason that putting something into each file's
>header will block unzipping.  I *THINK* a single digit will do the
>job because it upsets the offset to the file & can be detected &
>removed easily.  It remains to simply insert a given, known char
>into each header in the area of all 00 pairs to mess things up, then
>detect this given, known char & remove it, restoring the offsets.

Many thanks for this idea, I believe that it will work fine!

>Dirty, cheap & crude, but functional!

Nothing that works ist "Dirty, cheap & crude"! ;-)

Kind regards
Yours

Thomas

P. S. Tom, I have downloaded the archiv zlib16.zip. Do you have got an GFA-Source for using the included DLL? Many Thanks ...

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Thomas
No, I'm sorry.  By the time I found it & got it downloaded, I was
so tired & mad I almost forgot I even found it.

The VB calls are in the zip, tho.  They shouldn't be too hard to translate
because they'll be similar.  If they prove too difficult, you might ask
Patrik Battig to help - he's very good at making the translations.

Something extra... that is the compression used for the "new" *.png format.

<G>
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At 09:47 AM 02/06/99 +-200, you wrote:
>Hi Tom!
>
>>So... it stands to reason that putting something into each file's
>>header will block unzipping.  I *THINK* a single digit will do the
>>job because it upsets the offset to the file & can be detected &
>>removed easily.  It remains to simply insert a given, known char
>>into each header in the area of all 00 pairs to mess things up, then
>>detect this given, known char & remove it, restoring the offsets.
>
>Many thanks for this idea, I believe that it will work fine!
>
>>Dirty, cheap & crude, but functional!
>
>Nothing that works ist "Dirty, cheap & crude"! ;-)
>
>Kind regards
>Yours
>
>Thomas
>
>P. S. Tom, I have downloaded the archiv zlib16.zip. Do you have got an
GFA-Source for using the included DLL? Many Thanks ...
>
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Hi Tom!

>The VB calls are in the zip, tho.  They shouldn't be too hard to =
translate
>because they'll be similar.  If they prove too difficult, you might ask
>Patrik Battig to help - he's very good at making the translations.

I have much difficulties (absolutly no experiences) in translate it from =
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
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He is in Malasia <G>
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At 11:32 AM 02/06/99 +-200, you wrote:
>Hi Tom!
>
>>The VB calls are in the zip, tho.  They shouldn't be too hard to translate
>>because they'll be similar.  If they prove too difficult, you might ask
>>Patrik Battig to help - he's very good at making the translations.
>
>I have much difficulties (absolutly no experiences) in translate it from
the VB to GFA so I think it would be better to ask somteone to do it. Do you
have got Patrick's EMail-adress?
>
>Thanks
>Thomas
>
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List Member "Eberhard Funck" <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de> wrote:
Hallo Antony,

For creating a directory with long file name you must need
the 32 bit functions (look at my Gfa32s.dll in Dales Downloadpage
under ImageEditor). All this fine 32 bit functions are included in this
DLL.

Here an example for you:

' --------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------
' Declare WOW functions from then 16-bits kernel
' --------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------
DLL #1,"kernel"
  DECL DWORD LoadLibraryEx32W(L,L,L)
  DECL BOOL     FreeLibrary32W(L)
  DECL DWORD GetProcAddress32W(L,L)
ENDDLL
' --------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------
' Obtain procedure adress of CallProc32W by which 32-bits DLL functions are
called.
' --------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------
lpf32% = GetProcAddress(GetModuleHandle("kernel"),"CallProc32W")

hkernel32% =  ^LoadLibraryEx32W ("kernel32.dll", 0, 0)
'
/* create a new directory with long filenames in the current directory
~@CreateDirectory32 ("New folder", NULL)
'
/* Rename file names with long filenames
~@MoveFile32 ("Old Name.txt", New name.txt")
'
/* Rename directory name with long file name.
/* The directory must be on the same drive
~@MoveFile32 ("Old folder name", New folder name")
'
~^FreeLibrary32W(hkernel32)
FREEDLL 1
END
  '
  '
FUNCTION CreateDirectory32 (lpszPathName%, lpSecurityAttributes%)
  adr% = ^GetProcAddress32W (hkernel32%, "CreateDirectoryA")
  RETURN P:(lpf32%) (L:lpszPathName%, L:lpSecurityAttributes%,
                        L:adr%, L:%11, L:2)
RETURN
'
FUNCTION MoveFile32 (lpszExistingFileName%, lpszNewFileName%)
  hkernel32% =  ^LoadLibraryEx32W ("kernel32.dll", 0, 0)
  adr% = ^GetProcAddress32W (hkernel32%, "MoveFileA")
  RETURN P:(lpf32%) (L:lpszExistingFileName%, L:lpszNewFileName%,
                         L:adr, L:%11, L:2)
ENDFUNC
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List Member Anthony Watson <awatson@pacifier.com> wrote:
Eberhard,

> For creating a directory with long file name you must need
> the 32 bit functions (look at my Gfa32s.dll in Dales Downloadpage
> under ImageEditor). All this fine 32 bit functions are included in this
> DLL.

Thank you for the information!

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List Member "EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" <JoeHurst@snafu.de> wrote:
> ~@MoveFile32 ("Old Name.txt", New name.txt")
And this function-call does really work??? 

Bye, Joe

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List Member "Eberhard Funck" <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de> wrote:
Hallo Antony and Joe
Here an example for you:

In my hurry, I forgot that I don't call this function from the Gfa32s.dll.

OK. Thats right:

' --------------------------------------------------------------------------
' Declare WOW functions from then 16-bits kernel
' --------------------------------------------------------------------------
DLL #1,"kernel"
  DECL DWORD LoadLibraryEx32W(L,L,L)
  DECL BOOL     FreeLibrary32W(L)
  DECL DWORD GetProcAddress32W(L,L)
ENDDLL
' --------------------------------------------------------------------------
' Obtain procedure adress of CallProc32W by which 32-bits DLL functions are
called.
' --------------------------------------------------------------------------
lpf32% = GetProcAddress(GetModuleHandle("kernel"),"CallProc32W")

hkernel32% =  ^LoadLibraryEx32W ("kernel32.dll", 0, 0)
'
/* create a new directory with long filenames in the current directory

folder$ = "New folder" + CHR$(0)
~@CreateDirectory32 (V:folder$, NULL)
'
/* Rename file names with long filenames

oldfile$ = "Old name.txt" + CHR$(0)
newfile$ = "New name.txt" + CHR$(0)
~@MoveFile32 (V:oldfile$, V:newfile$)
'
/* Rename directory name with long file name.
/* The directory must be on the same drive

oldfolder$ = "Old folder name" + CHR$(0)
newfolder$ = "New folder name" + CHR$(0)
~@MoveFile32 (V:oldfolder$, V:newfolder$)
'
~^FreeLibrary32W(hkernel32)
FREEDLL 1
END
 '
 '
FUNCTION CreateDirectory32 (lpszPathName%, lpSecurityAttributes%)
  adr% = ^GetProcAddress32W (hkernel32%, "CreateDirectoryA")
  RETURN P:(lpf32%) (L:lpszPathName%, L:lpSecurityAttributes%,
                        L:adr%, L:%11, L:2)
RETURN
'
FUNCTION MoveFile32 (lpszExistingFileName%, lpszNewFileName%)
  hkernel32% =  ^LoadLibraryEx32W ("kernel32.dll", 0, 0)
  adr% = ^GetProcAddress32W (hkernel32%, "MoveFileA")
  RETURN P:(lpf32%) (L:lpszExistingFileName%, L:lpszNewFileName%,
                         L:adr, L:%11, L:2)
ENDFUNC
'

Bye
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
02/06/99 03:19:00 PM   *.zip   0206xx2-

Knowing it is of little interest to others...

local file header signature     4 bytes  (0x04034b50)
version needed to extract       2 bytes
general purpose bit flag        2 bytes
compression method              2 bytes
last mod file time              2 bytes
last mod file date              2 bytes
crc-32                          4 bytes
compressed size                 4 bytes
uncompressed size               4 bytes
filename length                 2 bytes
extra field length              2 bytes

"PK34" - identifies beginning of a file within a *.zip.
There can be any number of these within.  There appears 
to be no marker for file end... instead, if "PK34" is 
encountered, then a new file is beginning or the central 
directory has been reached, which is the final entry in the 
*.zip file as a whole.  I see nothing in the final entry 
yet that would make this task any easier altho pulling
*that* entry out is just as easy as the first one.

Adding one char before the CRC entry throws it off, making
it possible to prohibit unzipping.  I found that adding it
at the beginning of the "last mod file time" to work just
fine.  It may be that adding it at the beginning or perhaps
the end of "last mod file time" or "last mod file date" is
just as effective.

I selected chr$(0) only because it *looks* unobtrusive &
*might* be overlooked by anybody bothering to look.  It could 
be true that *any* char would suffice, or that modifying the
file header signature would be simpler, but a looker would be
able to spot that immediately.

There having been no reaction or response to any of this, I
will drop it.
TomR.

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List Member Anthony Watson <awatson@pacifier.com> wrote:
Since I'm begging for help, I might as well beg for assistance with two
other items... Ha. Ha.

1. Can someone show me source code for determining the "Favorites" folder
used by Internet Explorer? I asked this one a while back but lost the
reply when my drive crashed.

2. I've asked this one repeated, so why stop now... Does anyone have
source code showing how to access the internet? Email, Newsgroups, or FTP
would all be a "BIG" help!

Thanks,

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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
'Accessing Web Pages From A GFA Program
'by Sven Thomas


//   Browser.GFW - launch the default Internet browser and jump to a webs=
ite
//   GFA-BASIC Sample file
//   Author: GFA, gfasoft@compuserve.com
//   Last revision: 08/28/1998

/* Hinweis: diese Funktion l=E4uft nur einwandfrei unter Win32
/* Attention: this function works perfectly in Win32 environments only

/* declare ShellExecute - API-Funktion deklarieren
DLL #1,"shell.dll"
  DECL WORD ShellExecute(w,l,l,l,l,w) GET
ENDDLL

/* call ShellExecute; modifiy "http://www.gfa.net" to your needs

VOID @@ShellExecute(WIN(1),"open","http://www.gfa.net","","",SW_SHOW)

FREEDLL 1 /* free up ressources used by DLL


'=3D>>Routines Collected and Compiled By Dale Bryant


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Subject: [gfabasic] How-To Requests


> List Member Anthony Watson <awatson@pacifier.com> wrote:
> Since I'm begging for help, I might as well beg for assistance with two
> other items... Ha. Ha.
>
> 1. Can someone show me source code for determining the "Favorites" fold=
er
> used by Internet Explorer? I asked this one a while back but lost the
> reply when my drive crashed.
>
> 2. I've asked this one repeated, so why stop now... Does anyone have
> source code showing how to access the internet? Email, Newsgroups, or F=
TP
> would all be a "BIG" help!
>
> Thanks,
>
> Anthony
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Hi Anthony,
You can find them both in the download section on the GFAWHELP web site.
Both were written by Sven Thomas of GFA Software Technologies.
Dale

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> List Member Anthony Watson <awatson@pacifier.com> wrote:
> Since I'm begging for help, I might as well beg for assistance with two
> other items... Ha. Ha.
>
> 1. Can someone show me source code for determining the "Favorites" folder
> used by Internet Explorer? I asked this one a while back but lost the
> reply when my drive crashed.
>
> 2. I've asked this one repeated, so why stop now... Does anyone have
> source code showing how to access the internet? Email, Newsgroups, or FTP
> would all be a "BIG" help!
>
> Thanks,
>
> Anthony
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Anthony
Hang on... will send both directly to you.
<G>
TomR.



At 01:46 PM 02/06/99 -0700, you wrote:
>List Member Anthony Watson <awatson@pacifier.com> wrote:
>Since I'm begging for help, I might as well beg for assistance with two
>other items... Ha. Ha.
>
>1. Can someone show me source code for determining the "Favorites" folder
>used by Internet Explorer? I asked this one a while back but lost the
>reply when my drive crashed.
>
>2. I've asked this one repeated, so why stop now... Does anyone have
>source code showing how to access the internet? Email, Newsgroups, or FTP
>would all be a "BIG" help!
>
>Thanks,
>
>Anthony
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List Member Anthony Watson <awatson@pacifier.com> wrote:
Dale,

> You can find them both in the download section on the GFAWHELP web site.
> Both were written by Sven Thomas of GFA Software Technologies.

OK, I suppose I didn't explain my question well....

I looking for a way to access internet email, newsgroups, or FTP
"directly" from GFA. I do not want to simply call up an email program or a
web browser. I'm looking for direct communication with a Winsock!

Anthony

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Tommy,

>There having been no reaction or response to any of this, I will drop it=
.<

I'm not quite sure what ya'll are trying to do with this stuff; but one w=
ay
to cover ya tracks would be to encrypt (xor) the whole file and re-name i=
t
so that the extension is different to .zip


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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Jonathon
I *know* you'll understand the corner I'm in, looking out <G>.  I have a
severe case of "bug up my fanny" about several things, & this has become
one of'em.  Ok... can't PW-protect what ya can't generate (yet), but it
is easily possible to get an equivilent by mucquing the file about in
such a way that only one "in the know" or "equiped" would be able to
unzip it.

I've learned a lot on this one, but as usual, have a long way to go.

Getting one char at a time isn't as easy as it should be *IF* you don't
want it in ASC() format.  Yeah, it can be run thru HEX$(), but that's of 
no benefit.

I want to locate (LOC()) each occurance of a file header in a *.zip so
I can count 6 chars more & insert a CHR$(0).  Upsets hell out of the CRC
& the de-archiving.  Getting the count of headers is very elusive for
some reason.  I can get some right, others are short, then there are those
that may have 4 file in'em but show to have 171 or so.  I can get LOC() on
the locations, but... the very first one is the first thing you hit in a
*.zip but getting it to show up is something else!  It would seem to be
at 2797 chars into the file.  It's the first 4 char in the file!

Yep, we've got XOR down pat, but... I can't get finding the headers & doing
a number on the files off my mind.  There's a few built-in snags... a *.zip
containing 4 files will have either 9 or 12 headers in it.  4 files, the
"central dir signature" will have 4 more headers in it (8, so far), & the
"end of central dir signature" can have just one, or it can have 4!

Of most interest are the first 4 bytes.  504B0304 hex, or 80 75 3 4 ASC().
I'm having very little success building a 4-byte/char string for recognition.
P (50h, 80 ASCII) can occur anywhere.  K (4Bh, 75 ASCII) can too.  They can 
occur as a pair, either one as first, without being in a header.  Only if
followed by 3 4 (03h 04h or 3 4 ASCII) do they indicate a header.

no matter what I use to look at the begining of the file, it starts off as
50h 4Bh 03h 04h or 80 75 3 4 but!!!!! nothing I've tried will pick it up
as being the first 4 bytes!!!!!!  I'm gonna kill this bug if I have to
take a large hammer to it!
<G>
TomR.



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>List Member John Findlay <Jayef@compuserve.com> wrote:
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>Tommy,
>
>>There having been no reaction or response to any of this, I will drop it.<
>
>I'm not quite sure what ya'll are trying to do with this stuff; but one way
>to cover ya tracks would be to encrypt (xor) the whole file and re-name it
>so that the extension is different to .zip
>
>
>John
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List Member John Findlay <Jayef@compuserve.com> wrote:

For anyone interested in encrypting using GFA's XOR when running
Interpreted.

I've been playing with XOR-ing and noticed that with some encode-ing valu=
es
the final size of the saved file was less than the original file. OPPS, n=
ot
a good thing to happen!!

There are some circumstances where GFA's EOF(#x) returns end of file when=

it's not the end of file. Does anyone know why?

 n& =3D $73
 WHILE !EOF(#1)
   OUT #2, XOR(INP(#1), n&)
 WEND

A way around this is to do the loop again until LOC(#1) =3D LOF(#1);

 again:
 l% ++
 WHILE !EOF(#1)
   OUT #2, XOR(INP(#1), n&)
 WEND
 PRINT "Number of passes", l%
 IF LOC(#1) < LOF(#1) THEN GOTO again

Not satisfactory but it seems to work. On a test encrypting a 1.5 meg fil=
e
the above code did the GOTO again 72 times!"=A3$%^&*()

This problem does not occur compiled.

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List Member John Findlay <Jayef@compuserve.com> wrote:

Tom,

>I want to locate (LOC()) each occurance of a file header in a *.zip so
I can count 6 chars more & insert a CHR$(0).<

Why don't you just encrypt the whole file? If you are mucking about with =
it
you may as well go the whole way.

If that's not what you want I suggest you get a copy of the file format;
then at least you have the info.

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List Member Anthony Watson <awatson@pacifier.com> wrote:
Tom was asking questions about ZIP files, so I thought I would share
this short little program which will print out the file names and
compression methods of a ZIP file. It is fairly crude with minimal error
checking, but it shows one method of reading a ZIP file (This method
simply ignores the central directory at the end of a ZIP file).

Hopefully this will be helpful to someone...

Anthony Watson
support@mountain-software.com

=========================
DEFINT "a-z"
 
zip_file$="c:\download\test.zip"    '** Change this to match your file!
 
OPEN "i",#1,zip_file$
temp=MALLOC(256)
file_size=LOF(#1)
IF file_size>30
  offset=0
  REPEAT
    SEEK #1,offset
    BGET #1,temp,30
    identifier=LONG{temp}
    IF identifier=$04034b50
      bit_flag=CARD{temp+6}
      compression_method=CARD{temp+8}
      time=CARD{temp+10}
      date=CARD{temp+12}
      crc=LONG{temp+14}
      compressed_size=LONG{temp+18}
      uncompressed_size=LONG{temp+22}
      filename_length=CARD{temp+26}
      extra_length=CARD{temp+28}
 
      filename$=SPACE$(filename_length)
      BGET #1,V:filename$,filename_length
 
      method$=""
      SELECT compression_method
      CASE 0
        method$="Stored"
      CASE 1
        method$="Shrunk"
      CASE 2
        method$="Reduced (1)"
      CASE 3
        method$="Reduced (2)"
      CASE 4
        method$="Reduced (3)"
      CASE 5
        method$="Reduced (4)"
      CASE 6
        method$="Imploded"
      CASE 7
        method$="Tokenized"
      CASE 8
        method$="Deflated"
      ENDSELECT
 
      PRINT filename$+" - "+method$
 
      ADD offset,filename_length+extra_length+compressed_size+30
      IF BTST(bit_flag,3)=TRUE     '** Skip Data Descriptor
        ADD offset,16
      ENDIF
 
    ENDIF
  UNTIL offset=>file_size-1 OR identifier<>$04034b50
ENDIF
~MFREE(temp)
CLOSE #1
KEYGET x 


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List Member "EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" <JoeHurst@snafu.de> wrote:
> OK. Thats right:
That's the way be like it, babe! :-)

Thanx,
 Joe

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
John
Have the format.  Typically, files don't adhere to it... tons of variations.

If a file looks "S.O.P." or "copasetic" but really isn't....  The idea is
to baffle all but the most serious hacker.  I can't PW-protect a *.zip,
but I can make it impossible to unzip without being prepped first.

All this isn't terribly important, actually, but it seems to have engulfed
my curiosity & determination.  All is in response to a query posted to the
list about passwording a *.zip.  It turns out to be that the only files a
single char added to it can block is a one-file *.zip.  Internally, each
file in the *.zip has to be handled.  Not all de-archivers can be so %*(!+$!
selective, but WinZip v6+ will skip over any blocked files & unzip the rest.
<G>
TomR.


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>Tom,
>
>>I want to locate (LOC()) each occurance of a file header in a *.zip so
>I can count 6 chars more & insert a CHR$(0).<
>
>Why don't you just encrypt the whole file? If you are mucking about with it
>you may as well go the whole way.
>
>If that's not what you want I suggest you get a copy of the file format;
>then at least you have the info.
>
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Anthony, et.al.

EXACTLY where I was trying to get!!  Thank you!!!!!!!!!!

<G>
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Subject: RE: [gfabasic] XOR. INP(#1) and EOF(#1)
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List Member "EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" <JoeHurst@snafu.de> wrote:
> There are some circumstances where GFA's EOF(#x) returns end of file when
> it's not the end of file. Does anyone know why?
CHR$(26)?

Bye, Joe

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Subject: [gfabasic] XOR. INP(#1) and EOF(#1)
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List Member BDD <BrentDeck@compuserve.com> wrote:
>>>
 again:
 l% ++
 WHILE !EOF(#1)
   OUT #2, XOR(INP(#1), n&)
 WEND
 PRINT "Number of passes", l%
 IF LOC(#1) < LOF(#1) THEN GOTO again
>>

John,

How about this ?
xstop%=3DLOF(#1)
for x%=3D 1 to xstop%
   OUT #2, XOR(INP(#1), n&)
next x%

Is it the LOF or the EOF that is acting up?

Brent
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List Member Anthony Watson <awatson@pacifier.com> wrote:
Tom,

> EXACTLY where I was trying to get!!  Thank you!!!!!!!!!!

Glad to help. Lord knows I'm usually the one begging for help. It's nice
to offer something in return for a change.

The ZIP routine was part of my struggle to handle ZIP files a couple of
years ago. Unfortunately, I never figured out the actual
compression/decompression part. I have several sample source codes but
they are all in "C", and that language can get rather cryptic! Ha. Ha.
Anyway, reading the filenames and compression methods was about as far as
I got.

Anthony Watson
Mountain Software
support@mountain-software.com
http://www.mountain-software.com


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List Member Anthony Watson <awatson@pacifier.com> wrote:
> > There are some circumstances where GFA's EOF(#x) returns end of file when
> > it's not the end of file. Does anyone know why?

My "answer" is to simply avoid the use of EOF() in the first place. I
usually get the file size first using LOF(), and then compare that against
LOC() to determine whether I've reached the true end of the file.

Anthony Watson
Mountain Software
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
There are instances of validation of Anthony's method that don't envolve
EOF() at all... a *.zip doesn't have one!  Since the char used probably
*does* occur within a *.zip, I suspect EOF() was left out & file length
(LOF()) is used by *.zip archivers.  Some 50 - 60 *.zips brought me to
this conclusion some time back.  Even LOF() has a problem occasionally
in a *.zip, so I resorted to FGETDATA for the size & compare LOC() to
it to determine some things. for others, my loop is "for x=0 to SIZE-1)
or "for x=1 to SIZE).  Avoids "end of file" kickouts.
<G>
TomR.


At 05:16 PM 03/06/99 -0700, you wrote:
>List Member Anthony Watson <awatson@pacifier.com> wrote:
>> > There are some circumstances where GFA's EOF(#x) returns end of file when
>> > it's not the end of file. Does anyone know why?
>
>My "answer" is to simply avoid the use of EOF() in the first place. I
>usually get the file size first using LOF(), and then compare that against
>LOC() to determine whether I've reached the true end of the file.
>
>Anthony Watson
>Mountain Software
>support@mountain-software.com
>http://www.mountain-software.com
>
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Last trip thru this brier patch, I promise.

Password-protecting a *.zip *IS* possible, but it's mostly in 32-bit
versions.  So is encryption.

The file below illustrates this.  I have a batch of *.zip stuff that
is not on my website.  It is 16.108M, has 1197 files, & compresses
to 7.94M.  Granted, it ports various *.zip appls to far more computer
types & platforms than I've ever heard of.

<G>
TomR.


Attribute VB_Name = "VBUnzBas"

Option Explicit

'-- Please Do Not Remove These Comment Lines!
'----------------------------------------------------------------
'-- Sample VB 5 code to drive unzip32.dll
'-- Contributed to the Info-ZIP project by Mike Le Voi
'--
'-- Contact me at: mlevoi@modemss.brisnet.org.au
'--
'-- Visit my home page at: http://modemss.brisnet.org.au/~mlevoi
'--
'-- Use this code at your own risk. Nothing implied or warranted
'-- to work on your machine :-)
'----------------------------------------------------------------
'--
'-- This Source Code Is Freely Available From The Info-ZIP Project
'-- Web Server At:
'-- http://www.cdrom.com/pub/infozip/infozip.html
'--
'-- A Very Special Thanks To Mr. Mike Le Voi
'-- And Mr. Mike White
'-- And The Fine People Of The Info-ZIP Group
'-- For Letting Me Use And Modify Their Orginal
'-- Visual Basic 5.0 Code! Thank You Mike Le Voi.
'-- For Your Hard Work In Helping Me Get This To Work!!!
'---------------------------------------------------------------
'--
'-- Contributed To The Info-ZIP Project By Raymond L. King.
'-- Modified June 21, 1998
'-- By Raymond L. King
'-- Custom Software Designers
'--
'-- Contact Me At: king@ntplx.net
'-- ICQ 434355
'-- Or Visit Our Home Page At: http://www.ntplx.net/~king
'--
'---------------------------------------------------------------
'--
'-- Modified August 17, 1998
'-- by Christian Spieler
'-- (implemented sort of a "real" user interface)
'--
'---------------------------------------------------------------

'-- C Style argv
Private Type UNZIPnames
  uzFiles(0 To 99) As String
End Type

'-- Callback Large "String"
Private Type UNZIPCBChar
  ch(32800) As Byte
End Type

'-- Callback Small "String"
Private Type UNZIPCBCh
  ch(256) As Byte
End Type

'-- UNZIP32.DLL DCL Structure
Private Type DCLIST
  ExtractOnlyNewer  As Long    ' 1 = Extract Only Newer, Else 0
  SpaceToUnderscore As Long    ' 1 = Convert Space To Underscore, Else 0
  PromptToOverwrite As Long    ' 1 = Prompt To Overwrite Required, Else 0
  fQuiet            As Long    ' 2 = No Messages, 1 = Less, 0 = All
  ncflag            As Long    ' 1 = Write To Stdout, Else 0
  ntflag            As Long    ' 1 = Test Zip File, Else 0
  nvflag            As Long    ' 0 = Extract, 1 = List Zip Contents
  nUflag            As Long    ' 1 = Extract Only Newer, Else 0
  nzflag            As Long    ' 1 = Display Zip File Comment, Else 0
  ndflag            As Long    ' 1 = Honor Directories, Else 0
  noflag            As Long    ' 1 = Overwrite Files, Else 0
  naflag            As Long    ' 1 = Convert CR To CRLF, Else 0
  nZIflag           As Long    ' 1 = Zip Info Verbose, Else 0
  C_flag            As Long    ' 1 = Case Insensitivity, 0 = Case Sensitivity
  fPrivilege        As Long    ' 1 = ACL, 2 = Privileges
  Zip               As String  ' The Zip Filename To Extract Files
  ExtractDir        As String  ' The Extraction Directory, NULL If Extracting 
To Current Dir
End Type

'-- UNZIP32.DLL Userfunctions Structure
Private Type USERFUNCTION
  UZDLLPrnt     As Long     ' Pointer To Apps Print Function
  UZDLLSND      As Long     ' Pointer To Apps Sound Function
  UZDLLREPLACE  As Long     ' Pointer To Apps Replace Function
  UZDLLPASSWORD As Long     ' Pointer To Apps Password Function
  UZDLLMESSAGE  As Long     ' Pointer To Apps Message Function
  UZDLLSERVICE  As Long     ' Pointer To Apps Service Function (Not Coded!)
  TotalSizeComp As Long     ' Total Size Of Zip Archive
  TotalSize     As Long     ' Total Size Of All Files In Archive
  CompFactor    As Long     ' Compression Factor
  NumMembers    As Long     ' Total Number Of All Files In The Archive
  cchComment    As Integer  ' Flag If Archive Has A Comment!
End Type

'-- UNZIP32.DLL Version Structure
Private Type UZPVER
  structlen       As Long         ' Length Of The Structure Being Passed
  flag            As Long         ' Bit 0: is_beta  bit 1: uses_zlib
  beta            As String * 10  ' e.g., "g BETA" or ""
  date            As String * 20  ' e.g., "4 Sep 95" (beta) or "4 September 19
95"
  zlib            As String * 10  ' e.g., "1.0.5" or NULL
  unzip(1 To 4)   As Byte         ' Version Type Unzip
  zipinfo(1 To 4) As Byte         ' Version Type Zip Info
  os2dll          As Long         ' Version Type OS2 DLL
  windll(1 To 4)  As Byte         ' Version Type Windows DLL
End Type

'-- This Assumes UNZIP32.DLL Is In Your \Windows\System Directory!
Private Declare Function Wiz_SingleEntryUnzip Lib "unzip32.dll" _
  (ByVal ifnc As Long, ByRef ifnv As UNZIPnames, _
   ByVal xfnc As Long, ByRef xfnv As UNZIPnames, _
   dcll As DCLIST, Userf As USERFUNCTION) As Long

Private Declare Sub UzpVersion2 Lib "unzip32.dll" (uzpv As UZPVER)

'-- Private Variables For Structure Access
Private UZDCL  As DCLIST
Private UZUSER As USERFUNCTION
Private UZVER  As UZPVER

'-- Public Variables For Setting The
'-- UNZIP32.DLL DCLIST Structure
'-- These Must Be Set Before The Actual Call To VBUnZip32
Public uExtractNewer     As Integer  ' 1 = Extract Only Newer, Else 0
Public uSpaceUnderScore  As Integer  ' 1 = Convert Space To Underscore, Else 0
Public uPromptOverWrite  As Integer  ' 1 = Prompt To Overwrite Required, Else 
0
Public uQuiet            As Integer  ' 2 = No Messages, 1 = Less, 0 = All
Public uWriteStdOut      As Integer  ' 1 = Write To Stdout, Else 0
Public uTestZip          As Integer  ' 1 = Test Zip File, Else 0
Public uExtractList      As Integer  ' 0 = Extract, 1 = List Contents
Public uExtractOnlyNewer As Integer  ' 1 = Extract Only Newer, Else 0
Public uDisplayComment   As Integer  ' 1 = Display Zip File Comment, Else 0
Public uHonorDirectories As Integer  ' 1 = Honor Directories, Else 0
Public uOverWriteFiles   As Integer  ' 1 = Overwrite Files, Else 0
Public uConvertCR_CRLF   As Integer  ' 1 = Convert CR To CRLF, Else 0
Public uVerbose          As Integer  ' 1 = Zip Info Verbose
Public uCaseSensitivity  As Integer  ' 1 = Case Insensitivity, 0 = Case Sensit
ivity
Public uPrivilege        As Integer  ' 1 = ACL, 2 = Privileges, Else 0
Public uZipFileName      As String   ' The Zip File Name
Public uExtractDir       As String   ' Extraction Directory, Null If Current D
irectory

'-- Public Program Variables
Public uZipNumber    As Long         ' Zip File Number
Public uNumberFiles  As Long         ' Number Of Files
Public uNumberXFiles As Long         ' Number Of Extracted Files
Public uZipMessage   As String       ' For Zip Message
Public uZipInfo      As String       ' For Zip Information
Public uZipNames     As UNZIPnames   ' Names Of Files To Unzip
Public uExcludeNames As UNZIPnames   ' Names Of Zip Files To Exclude
Public uVbSkip       As Integer      ' For DLL Password Function

'-- Puts A Function Pointer In A Structure
'-- For Callbacks.
Public Function FnPtr(ByVal lp As Long) As Long

  FnPtr = lp

End Function

'-- Callback For UNZIP32.DLL - Receive Message Function
Public Sub UZReceiveDLLMessage(ByVal ucsize As Long, _
    ByVal csiz As Long, _
    ByVal cfactor As Integer, _
    ByVal mo As Integer, _
    ByVal dy As Integer, _
    ByVal yr As Integer, _
    ByVal hh As Integer, _
    ByVal mm As Integer, _
    ByVal c As Byte, ByRef fname As UNZIPCBCh, _
    ByRef meth As UNZIPCBCh, ByVal crc As Long, _
    ByVal fCrypt As Byte)

  Dim s0     As String
  Dim xx     As Long
  Dim strout As String * 80

  '-- Always Put This In Callback Routines!
  On Error Resume Next

  '------------------------------------------------
  '-- This Is Where The Received Messages Are
  '-- Printed Out And Displayed.
  '-- You Can Modify Below!
  '------------------------------------------------

  strout = Space(80)

  '-- For Zip Message Printing
  If uZipNumber = 0 Then
    Mid(strout, 1, 50) = "Filename:"
    Mid(strout, 53, 4) = "Size"
    Mid(strout, 62, 4) = "Date"
    Mid(strout, 71, 4) = "Time"
    uZipMessage = strout & vbNewLine
    strout = Space(80)
  End If

  s0 = ""

  '-- Do Not Change This For Next!!!
  For xx = 0 To 255
    If fname.ch(xx) = 0 Then Exit For
    s0 = s0 & Chr(fname.ch(xx))
  Next

  '-- Assign Zip Information For Printing
  Mid(strout, 1, 50) = Mid(s0, 1, 50)
  Mid(strout, 51, 7) = Right("        " & Str(ucsize), 7)
  Mid(strout, 60, 3) = Right("0" & Trim(Str(mo)), 2) & "/"
  Mid(strout, 63, 3) = Right("0" & Trim(Str(dy)), 2) & "/"
  Mid(strout, 66, 2) = Right("0" & Trim(Str(yr)), 2)
  Mid(strout, 70, 3) = Right(Str(hh), 2) & ":"
  Mid(strout, 73, 2) = Right("0" & Trim(Str(mm)), 2)

  ' Mid(strout, 75, 2) = Right(" " & Str(cfactor), 2)
  ' Mid(strout, 78, 8) = Right("        " & Str(csiz), 8)
  ' s0 = ""
  ' For xx = 0 To 255
  '     If meth.ch(xx) = 0 Then exit for
  '     s0 = s0 & Chr(meth.ch(xx))
  ' Next xx

  '-- Do Not Modify Below!!!
  uZipMessage = uZipMessage & strout & vbNewLine
  uZipNumber = uZipNumber + 1

End Sub

'-- Callback For UNZIP32.DLL - Print Message Function
Public Function UZDLLPrnt(ByRef fname As UNZIPCBChar, ByVal x As Long) As Long

  Dim s0 As String
  Dim xx As Long

  '-- Always Put This In Callback Routines!
  On Error Resume Next

  s0 = ""

  '-- Gets The UNZIP32.DLL Message For Displaying.
  For xx = 0 To x - 1
    If fname.ch(xx) = 0 Then Exit For
    s0 = s0 & Chr(fname.ch(xx))
  Next

  '-- Assign Zip Information
  If Mid$(s0, 1, 1) = vbLf Then s0 = vbNewLine ' Damn UNIX :-)
  uZipInfo = uZipInfo & s0

  UZDLLPrnt = 0

End Function

'-- Callback For UNZIP32.DLL - DLL Service Function
Public Function UZDLLServ(ByRef mname As UNZIPCBChar, ByVal x As Long) As Long

    Dim s0 As String
    Dim xx As Long
    
    '-- Always Put This In Callback Routines!
    On Error Resume Next
    
    s0 = ""
    '-- Get Zip32.DLL Message For processing
    For xx = 0 To x - 1
        If mname.ch(xx) = 0 Then Exit For
        s0 = s0 + Chr(mname.ch(xx))
    Next
    ' At this point, s0 contains the message passed from the DLL
    ' It is up to the developer to code something useful here :)
    UZDLLServ = 0 ' Setting this to 1 will abort the zip!

End Function

'-- Callback For UNZIP32.DLL - Password Function
Public Function UZDLLPass(ByRef p As UNZIPCBCh, _
  ByVal n As Long, ByRef m As UNZIPCBCh, _
  ByRef Name As UNZIPCBCh) As Integer

  Dim prompt     As String
  Dim xx         As Integer
  Dim szpassword As String

  '-- Always Put This In Callback Routines!
  On Error Resume Next

  UZDLLPass = 1

  If uVbSkip = 1 Then Exit Function

  '-- Get The Zip File Password
  szpassword = InputBox("Please Enter The Password!")

  '-- No Password So Exit The Function
  If szpassword = "" Then
    uVbSkip = 1
    Exit Function
  End If

  '-- Zip File Password So Process It
  For xx = 0 To 255
    If m.ch(xx) = 0 Then
      Exit For
    Else
      prompt = prompt & Chr(m.ch(xx))
    End If
  Next

  For xx = 0 To n - 1
    p.ch(xx) = 0
  Next

  For xx = 0 To Len(szpassword) - 1
    p.ch(xx) = Asc(Mid(szpassword, xx + 1, 1))
  Next

  p.ch(xx) = Chr(0) ' Put Null Terminator For C

  UZDLLPass = 0

End Function

'-- Callback For UNZIP32.DLL - Report Function To Overwrite Files.
'-- This Function Will Display A MsgBox Asking The User
'-- If They Would Like To Overwrite The Files.
Public Function UZDLLRep(ByRef fname As UNZIPCBChar) As Long

  Dim s0 As String
  Dim xx As Long

  '-- Always Put This In Callback Routines!
  On Error Resume Next

  UZDLLRep = 100 ' 100 = Do Not Overwrite - Keep Asking User
  s0 = ""

  For xx = 0 To 255
    If fname.ch(xx) = 0 Then xx = 99999 Else s0 = s0 & Chr(fname.ch(xx))
  Next

  '-- This Is The MsgBox Code
  xx = MsgBox("Overwrite " & s0 & "?", vbExclamation & vbYesNoCancel, _
              "VBUnZip32 - File Already Exists!")

  If xx = vbNo Then Exit Function

  If xx = vbCancel Then
    UZDLLRep = 104       ' 104 = Overwrite None
    Exit Function
  End If

  UZDLLRep = 102         ' 102 = Overwrite 103 = Overwrite All

End Function

'-- ASCIIZ To String Function
Public Function szTrim(szString As String) As String

  Dim pos As Integer
  Dim ln  As Integer

  pos = InStr(szString, Chr(0))
  ln = Len(szString)

  Select Case pos
    Case Is > 1
      szTrim = Trim(Left(szString, pos - 1))
    Case 1
      szTrim = ""
    Case Else
      szTrim = Trim(szString)
  End Select

End Function

'-- Main UNZIP32.DLL UnZip32 Subroutine
'-- (WARNING!) Do Not Change!
Public Sub VBUnZip32()

  Dim retcode As Long
  Dim MsgStr As String

  '-- Set The UNZIP32.DLL Options
  '-- (WARNING!) Do Not Change
  UZDCL.ExtractOnlyNewer = uExtractNewer     ' 1 = Extract Only Newer
  UZDCL.SpaceToUnderscore = uSpaceUnderScore ' 1 = Convert Space To Underscore
  UZDCL.PromptToOverwrite = uPromptOverWrite ' 1 = Prompt To Overwrite Require
d
  UZDCL.fQuiet = uQuiet                      ' 2 = No Messages 1 = Less 0 = Al
l
  UZDCL.ncflag = uWriteStdOut                ' 1 = Write To Stdout
  UZDCL.ntflag = uTestZip                    ' 1 = Test Zip File
  UZDCL.nvflag = uExtractList                ' 0 = Extract 1 = List Contents
  UZDCL.nUflag = uExtractOnlyNewer           ' 1 = Extract Only Newer
  UZDCL.nzflag = uDisplayComment             ' 1 = Display Zip File Comment
  UZDCL.ndflag = uHonorDirectories           ' 1 = Honour Directories
  UZDCL.noflag = uOverWriteFiles             ' 1 = Overwrite Files
  UZDCL.naflag = uConvertCR_CRLF             ' 1 = Convert CR To CRLF
  UZDCL.nZIflag = uVerbose                   ' 1 = Zip Info Verbose
  UZDCL.C_flag = uCaseSensitivity            ' 1 = Case insensitivity, 0 = Cas
e Sensitivity
  UZDCL.fPrivilege = uPrivilege              ' 1 = ACL 2 = Priv
  UZDCL.Zip = uZipFileName                   ' ZIP Filename
  UZDCL.ExtractDir = uExtractDir             ' Extraction Directory, NULL If E
xtracting
                                             ' To Current Directory

  '-- Set Callback Addresses
  '-- (WARNING!!!) Do Not Change
  UZUSER.UZDLLPrnt = FnPtr(AddressOf UZDLLPrnt)
  UZUSER.UZDLLSND = 0&    '-- Not Supported
  UZUSER.UZDLLREPLACE = FnPtr(AddressOf UZDLLRep)
  UZUSER.UZDLLPASSWORD = FnPtr(AddressOf UZDLLPass)
  UZUSER.UZDLLMESSAGE = FnPtr(AddressOf UZReceiveDLLMessage)
  UZUSER.UZDLLSERVICE = FnPtr(AddressOf UZDLLServ)

  '-- Set UNZIP32.DLL Version Space
  '-- (WARNING!!!) Do Not Change
  With UZVER
    .structlen = Len(UZVER)
    .beta = Space(9) & vbNullChar
    .date = Space(19) & vbNullChar
    .zlib = Space(9) & vbNullChar
  End With

  '-- Get Version
  Call UzpVersion2(UZVER)

  '--------------------------------------
  '-- You Can Change This For Displaying
  '-- The Version Information!
  '--------------------------------------
  MsgStr$ = "DLL Date: " & szTrim(UZVER.date)
  MsgStr$ = MsgStr$ & vbNewLine$ & "Zip Info: " & Hex(UZVER.zipinfo(1)) & "." 
& _
       Hex(UZVER.zipinfo(2)) & Hex(UZVER.zipinfo(3))
  MsgStr$ = MsgStr$ & vbNewLine$ & "DLL Version: " & Hex(UZVER.windll(1)) & ".
" & _
       Hex(UZVER.windll(2)) & Hex(UZVER.windll(3))
  MsgStr$ = MsgStr$ & vbNewLine$ & "--------------"
  '-- End Of Version Information.

  '-- Go UnZip The Files! (Do Not Change Below!!!)
  '-- This Is The Actual UnZip Routine
  retcode = Wiz_SingleEntryUnzip(uNumberFiles, uZipNames, uNumberXFiles, _
                                 uExcludeNames, UZDCL, UZUSER)
  '---------------------------------------------------------------

  '-- If There Is An Error Display A MsgBox!
  If retcode <> 0 Then MsgBox retcode

  '-- You Can Change This As Needed!
  '-- For Compression Information
  MsgStr$ = MsgStr$ & vbNewLine$ & "Only Shows If uExtractList = 1 List Conten
ts"
  MsgStr$ = MsgStr$ & vbNewLine$ & "--------------"
  MsgStr$ = MsgStr$ & vbNewLine$ & "Comment         : " & UZUSER.cchComment
  MsgStr$ = MsgStr$ & vbNewLine$ & "Total Size Comp : " & UZUSER.TotalSizeComp
  MsgStr$ = MsgStr$ & vbNewLine$ & "Total Size      : " & UZUSER.TotalSize
  MsgStr$ = MsgStr$ & vbNewLine$ & "Compress Factor : %" & UZUSER.CompFactor
  MsgStr$ = MsgStr$ & vbNewLine$ & "Num Of Members  : " & UZUSER.NumMembers
  MsgStr$ = MsgStr$ & vbNewLine$ & "--------------"

  VBUnzFrm.MsgOut.Text = VBUnzFrm.MsgOut.Text & MsgStr$ & vbNewLine$
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Subject: RE: [gfabasic] XOR. INP(#1) and EOF(#1)
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List Member Anthony Watson <awatson@pacifier.com> wrote:
Tom,

> Even LOF() has a problem occasionally in a *.zip

Hmm... I've never had a problem with LOF() or LOC() before. EOF() on the
other hand has caused all sorts of problems.

Another command that seems dumb is the INPUT$() command. If the file isn't
terminated with a CR/LF it'll choke.

Anthony


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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Anthony, et.al.,

LOC() seems OK - so far - for me.  LOF() on a *.zip usually results
in a file size of 0 for some reason.  For this, I resort to the
FGETDATA function because it hasn't failed me so far.

Oops - forgot to mention this.  ANY text file who's last line doesn't
end w/ <Enter> has a nasty bite.  I use FView to look at files & when
I see a yellow blurb at the end of a line (NOT always the last one),
I know I have to edit the file in something commercial or GFA-W will
choke up.  The yellow "blurb" is a yellow-hilited "Incomplete line"
message.  Pure poison!

Am trying to get Chris Gisler's unzip.dll to function, but...  Reports
all *.zips to be invalid for me except the one Roland sent w/ it.  If
I remove that check-file trap, I get locked down & have to 3-finger out.

We certainly do have need of a comprehensive TBA (To Be Avoided) list!
<G>
TomR.


At 07:46 PM 03/06/99 -0700, you wrote:
>List Member Anthony Watson <awatson@pacifier.com> wrote:
>Tom,
>
>> Even LOF() has a problem occasionally in a *.zip
>
>Hmm... I've never had a problem with LOF() or LOC() before. EOF() on the
>other hand has caused all sorts of problems.
>
>Another command that seems dumb is the INPUT$() command. If the file isn't
>terminated with a CR/LF it'll choke.
>
>Anthony
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List Member John Findlay <Jayef@compuserve.com> wrote:


I am underwhelmed, everyone else seems to have known about the problem wi=
th
EOF.

Ah well, back to work. :-)


John
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
John, John, John...

I guess you've no idea just how many hundreds of tiny, seemingly insignificant
details like these slip the mind of the well-informed & just never seem to get
told to the newer attemptees.  Quite often we get the same response I did for
registration of a $160 application & rebate of $40 when we ask.

Absolutely NOTHING!  The program is almost useless to me, so what am I to do
with it?  It's a translation program & doesn't like hyphens or full-stops to
be at the beginning of words.  A hyphen *after* a word w/o a space kills it
also.  If a word in German isn't "koshur", it doesn't recognize it.  The
German programmers putting out demos & examples use local slang - something
I've been guilty of in English.  That translator doesn't know jack squat
about local slang in any of it's 5 languages!

GFA-W, on the other hand, cost me over $400 so I'm working to learn how to
do things that aren't explained.  I have one large manual that is almost
entirely "C"... hardly an example is given & very few of those are in the
format GFA-W will accept.

When we keep getting errors, lockdowns or are simply ignored, we communicate
this to the others.  These are sometimes familiar to all of the others, but
often they are something new - at least to someone else.

This goes hand-in-glove with so many things that will (or will NOT) perform
as expected, simply based on how the window was opened in the first place!
Sheese!  What an undocumented mess of a maze to have to feel your way thru
because it's NOT written down anywhere (known, that is), & those who know
just never think to warn the newer users.

When realistic help is given, you can believe me that it is truly appreciated!

<G>
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>Ah well, back to work. :-)
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List Member BDD <BrentDeck@compuserve.com> wrote:
Thanks to John, Eberhart, and Roland for helpful comments.

I guess it's time to move to WIN 95.  =


It's curious that riched32.dll is included in the WIN32S subdirectory of
Win3.1, =

but accessible only from 32-bit programs.


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List Member BDD <BrentDeck@compuserve.com> wrote:
I'm looking for a way to register a screensaver in WIN95 and NT.

Does anyone have instructions on how to write an install program
that ammends the registry files?

This is so secret, it's not even in MFC.

Thanks,

Brent.
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List Member "dgs1994" <dgs1994@dgs1994.com> wrote:
Hi Everyone

Below is a small listing I have been using with GFA Dos to list to a
printer.

This is from a small database I am playing about with.

I am transfering it to GFA fo Windows.

Everything works except the listing below.

Can anyone tell me what I need to do to make it work in GFA Windows.

PROCEDURE printroutine
  CLS
  SEC = 0
  P = 0
  CLS
  PRINT "               PRINTING ALL RECORDS"

  LPRINT
  FOR T% = 1 TO U%
    FOR X% = 1 TO 1
      LPRINT   "           ";K$(T%,X%)
    NEXT X%
  NEXT T%
  LPRINT CHR$(12);
RETURN

Thanks
Danny.





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List Member Anthony Watson <awatson@pacifier.com> wrote:
Danny,

> PROCEDURE printroutine
>   CLS
>   SEC = 0
>   P = 0
>   CLS
>   PRINT "               PRINTING ALL RECORDS"
>   LPRINT
>   FOR T% = 1 TO U%
>     FOR X% = 1 TO 1
>       LPRINT   "           ";K$(T%,X%)
>     NEXT X%
>   NEXT T%
>   LPRINT CHR$(12);
> RETURN

I never used GFA DOS, so I'm not familiar with the LPRINT command. But, if
you want to print to the screen, simply change the LPRINT to PRINT.

If you are working with a file, you'll need to open the file first,
something like this:

OPEN "o",#2,"C:\TEST.TXT"
PRINT #2
FOR T=1 TO U
  FOR X=1 TO 1
    PRINT #2;"           ";K$(T,X)
  NEXT X
NEXT T      
CLOSE #2

Although you wouldn't normally send data directly to the printer port
in Windows, you can send it to a printer with a simple change:

OPEN "o",#2,"LPT1:"
PRINT #2
FOR T=1 TO U
  FOR X=1 TO 1
    PRINT #2;"            ";k$(T,X)
  NEXT X
NEXT T
CLOSE #2

I hope this helps a little.

Anthony Watson
Mountain Software
support@mountain-software.com
http://www.mountain-software.com


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List Member Our.Mac@iname.com wrote:
I would like some help with resizing video on-the-fly.
I can play an AVI or MPG with no problems, but when I resize the window
its in, I cannot successfully cause the movie to keep playing at its new
coordinates.
I am using the (hopefully) standard MCI commands.  Here's my code:
-------------------------------------------
FILESELECT "e:\videos\*.mpg;*avi*","CLIP39.mpg",st$
IF LEN(st$)

  OPENW #1,_X / 2 - 200,_Y / 2 - 200,704,488,16 + 32+64+128 + 512     '
attributes are close, min, max, resize, and titlebar
  MCI "open " + st$ + " alias q3"
  LET myh& = WIN(1)
  TITLEW #1, "'I think I forgot something...'"
  MCI "window q3 handle " + STR$(myh&)
  MCI "put q3 destination at 0 0 704 488"
  MCI "play q3 repeat"

  LET StopFlg! = 0
  DO
    GETEVENT
    IF MENU(1) = 1 THEN StopFlg! = TRUE     ' keyboard
    IF MENU(1) = 21 THEN test
    IF MENU(1) = 4 THEN StopFlg! = TRUE     ' closebox
  LOOP UNTIL StopFlg!

  MCI "close q3"
  CLOSEW #1

ELSE
  ALERT 1, "Movies cancelled!",1,"OK",dummy%
ENDIF
END

PROCEDURE test
  LET new_x& = MENU(7)
  LET new_y& = MENU(8)
  LET new_w& = MENU(9)
  LET new_h& = MENU(10)
  LET video_command$ = "put q3 destination at " + STR$(new_x&) + " " +
STR$(new_y&) + " " + STR$(new_w&) + " " + STR$(new_h&)

  MCI "pause q3"
  //MCI "open " + st$ + " alias q3"
  //LET myh& = WIN(1)
  //MCI "window q3 handle " + STR$(myh&)
  //LET video_command$ = "put q3 destination at 0 0 300 600"
  MCI video_command$
  MCI "play q3 repeat"
RETURN

'=>>Routines Collected and Compiled By Dale Bryant, this one modified by
the MacMeister
-----------------------------------------------------------
Any help you can give is much appreciated! The problem is severe with
MPEGs, but almost tolerable with AVIs.
~Mac...


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List Member "Andras Szalay" <a.szalay@mail.matav.hu> wrote:
I was very interested to try John's MIDI routines what he made
public in the last days. In fact, the only reason why I am still
using occasionally my old ATARI ST is that it is so easy to do
MIDI communication with it in GFA BASIC. Up to now I had
some success with using the UART mode of the MPU401 
interface, directly communicating through IO port addresses.
This might be a very strange way for Windows programmers,
but I am not one of them and I had no better way to do that. 
This worked with some sound cards, but not with all of them, 
I do not know why. Now John's program shows that it is possible 
to do a "correct" communication fom GFA Windows, but since 
I am not a Windows programmer it is too complicated for me to 
trace it back to the roots. I understand that the most basic element
 to send out MIDI data is
~^midiOutShortMsg(hmo&, lmsg%),
but I do not see how can I call it directly from a program, 
what kind of initialization is necessary?
What I wish is the equivalent of sending out any byte, like on
the ATARI:
OUT 3,x
and reading bytes from the MIDI IN like:
DO
  IF INP?(3)
    PRINT INP(3),
  ENDIF
LOOP
Could you help me how to do that?

		Andras Szalay

P.S.:
John writes in his program:
>>' timeSetEvent() can have a resolution of up to 1ms 
>>compared with the normal Windows timer which has a 
>>resolution of 18.2ms.

I think this was true in the early days of GFA BASIC, 
and in fact the Help file says:
>>TIMER returns the time in milliseconds. The internal 
>>resolution amounts only to 1/18.2 seconds.

This is not true, the physical resolution of TIMER is really 1 msec, so
there is no advantage of using more complicated functions. This very
simple program proves that:

oprt& = &H378    // printer port output address
DO
  OUT PORT oprt&,EVEN(TIMER)
LOOP

When you run this program, a rather stable 500 Hz signal appears
on all printer port lines, this proves that the resolution is indeed 1 msec.


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List Member John Findlay <Jayef@compuserve.com> wrote:

Andras,

>>' timeSetEvent() can have a resolution of up to 1ms =

>>compared with the normal Windows timer which has a =

>>resolution of 18.2ms.

>>I think this was true in the early days of GFA BASIC, =

>>and in fact the Help file says:

It's a Windows factor not a GFA one. The SDK says that the resolution of
the normal timer is not accurate enough for MIDI.

>what kind of initialization is necessary?<

The DLL that accompanies the MIDI listing shows what is necessary. The
other necessary requirement (so says the SDK) is that the calls need to b=
e
from a callback function in a dll. This is because the callback needs to =
be
from a code segment that is fixed (not moveable) in memory. Otherwise
Windows might have to spend time looking for the code which would make it=

difficult to keep to a 1ms resolution.

  DLL #1, "mmsystem.dll"
    DECL LONG timeSetEvent(w,w,l,l,w)
    DECL LONG timeKillEvent(w)
    DECL LONG midiOutShortMsg(w,l)
    DECL LONG midiOutOpen(l,w,l,l,l)
    DECL LONG midiOutClose(w)
    DECL LONG timeGetDevCaps(l,w)
    DECL LONG timeBeginPeriod(w)
    DECL LONG timeEndPeriod(w)
  ENDDLL

Regards,

John
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List Member "Andras Szalay" <a.szalay@mail.matav.hu> wrote:
John Findlay wrote:
>> Otherwise Windows might have to spend time looking for the 
>> code which would make it difficult to keep to a 1ms resolution.

Sorry, probably I did not explain my problem clearly enough. My
primary problem is not at all the timing. I would be very thankful
if you could show me a "minimal" program that sends out a single
byte (or a NOTE ON message, whatever) through the MIDI OUT
port, without taking care for the timing; furthermore, how to receive
a byte (or message) from MIDI IN and print it on the screen, just
like my example in GFA for ATARI ST does.

			Andras


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List Member "EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" <JoeHurst@snafu.de> wrote:
LPRINT is not the usual way to print with Windows.
You can open "LPT1:" (open like a file) and print to this channel as if you
would write into a file or take a closer look to the source of JPE (available on
Dales Homepage) where you'll find a good printing-routine for text, taking care
of the length of the page, numbering lines, doing headline and footline etc...

Bye, Joe

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List Member John Findlay <Jayef@compuserve.com> wrote:

Andras,

CONSTANT's such as VOICE =3D $FFFD, REST =3D $FFFE, ENDSONG =3D $FFFF are=
 in the
dll.

First, the ^midiOutOpen() function requires an address to store a handle
that is used for calls to ^midiOutShortMsg()

Use the ^midiOutShortMsg(hmo&, lmsg%) after you have received the handle =
to
the midi port.

As with all Windows programming one needs the documentation to be able to=

programme effectively; this is a difficult area to programme in Windows a=
nd
I am not very knowledgeable about it, so you had better get some MIDI for=

Windows documentation. :-)

Study my DLL, you'll understand it if you persevere.
 =

John


  MIDIMAPPER&   =3D -1 =

  IF ^midiOutOpen(*hmo&, MIDIMAPPER&, NULL, NULL, 0)
    RETURN FALSE
    EXPROC
  ENDIF

Here is a routine that will fill in the lmsg% variable and send the
message.

PROCEDURE MidiSendEvent(hmo&, status&, channel&, data1&, data2&)
'*************************************************************
'  PROCEDURE  : MidiSendEvent()  =

'
'  PURPOSE    : Send the midi message.                                   =
  =

   =

'
'  RETURNS    : None
'
'  PARAMS     : hmo    -> handle to midi out device
'               status -> PROGRAMCHANGE/NOTON etc.
'               data1  -> duration/note etc.
'               data2  -> VELOCITY
'
'  USES FUNCS : None
'
'*************************************************************

  BYTE{*lmsg% + 0} =3D status& | channel&
  BYTE{*lmsg% + 1} =3D data1&
  BYTE{*lmsg% + 2} =3D data2&
  BYTE{*lmsg% + 3} =3D 0

  ~^midiOutShortMsg(hmo&, lmsg%)

RETURN
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List Member "Andras Szalay" <a.szalay@mail.matav.hu> wrote:
John,

thank you very much for the help. I am not really sure if it is
correct what I did, but it works so far perfectly:

DLL #1, "mmsystem.dll"
  DECL LONG midiOutShortMsg(w,l)
  DECL LONG midiOutOpen(l,w,l,l,l)
  DECL LONG midiOutClose(w)
ENDDLL
MIDIMAPPER&   = -1
IF ^midiOutOpen(*hmo&, MIDIMAPPER&, NULL, NULL, 0)
  PRINT "no success!"
  KEYGET k
  END
ENDIF
MidiSendEvent(hmo&,144,0,64,100)
~^midiOutClose(hmo&)
END
PROCEDURE MidiSendEvent(hmo&, status&, channel&, data1&, data2&)
  BYTE{*lmsg% + 0} = status& | channel&
  BYTE{*lmsg% + 1} = data1&
  BYTE{*lmsg% + 2} = data2&
  BYTE{*lmsg% + 3} = 0
  ~^midiOutShortMsg(hmo&, lmsg%)
RETURN

Now, the question remains how to do the other way round, receiving
from the MIDI IN. I will try to figure it out myself, but I do not see
anything like midiInShortMessage ....

Andras

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Subject: Re:[gfabasic] John Findlay's MIDI routine
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List Member John Findlay <Jayef@compuserve.com> wrote:

Andras,

There is a midiInOpen function that would have to be used to open the
device for input. I can't help any further except to give you some info.
Midi input is more difficult as you will see if you continue to
investigate. Below is some of the info that you need.


=46rom MS.

After you open a MIDI device (for input), you can begin recording MIDI
data. Windows provides the following functions for managing MIDI recordin=
g:
midiInAddBuffer Sends a buffer to the device driver so it can be filled
with recorded system-exclusive MIDI data.

midiInReset     Stops MIDI recording and marks all pending buffers as don=
e.

midiInStart     Starts MIDI recording and resets the time stamp to zero.

midiInStop      Stops MIDI recording.
 =

To send buffers to the device driver for recording system-exclusive
messages, use midiInAddBuffer. The application is notified as the buffers=

are filled with system-exclusive recorded data. For more information abou=
t
the notification techniques, see Managing MIDI Data Blocks. =


The midiInStart function begins the recording process. When recording
system-exclusive messages, send at least one buffer to the driver before
starting recording. To stop recording, use midiInStop. Before closing the=

device by using the midiInClose function, mark any pending data blocks as=

being done by calling midiInReset. =


Applications that require time-stamped data use a callback function to
receive MIDI data. If your timing requirements are not strict, you can us=
e
a window or thread callback. However, you cannot use an event callback to=

receive MIDI data.
To record system-exclusive messages with applications that do not use
stream buffers, you must supply the device driver with buffers. These
buffers are specified by using a MIDIHDR structure. =


The following functions are used with MIDI.

midiConnect
midiDisconnect
midiInAddBuffer
midiInClose
midiInGetDevCaps
midiInGetErrorText
midiInGetID
midiInGetNumDevs
midiInMessage
midiInOpen
midiInPrepareHeader
midiInProc
midiInReset
midiInStart
midiInStop
midiInUnprepareHeader
midiOutCacheDrumPatches
midiOutCachePatches
midiOutClose
midiOutGetDevCaps
midiOutGetErrorText
midiOutGetID
midiOutGetNumDevs
midiOutGetVolume
midiOutLongMsg
midiOutMessage
midiOutOpen
midiOutPrepareHeader
MidiOutProc
midiOutReset
midiOutSetVolume
midiOutShortMsg
midiOutUnprepareHeader
midiStreamClose
midiStreamOpen
midiStreamOut
midiStreamPause
midiStreamPosition
midiStreamProperty
midiStreamRestart
midiStreamStop

Good luck

John
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Hi Andras,
This would be really great for the GFAWHELP file.  Sure hope I can get a
copy of a finished routine.
Thanks,
Dale

----- Original Message -----
From: Andras Szalay <a.szalay@mail.matav.hu>
To: <gfabasic@gfa.net>
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Subject: Re:[gfabasic] John Findlay's MIDI routine


> List Member "Andras Szalay" <a.szalay@mail.matav.hu> wrote:
> John,
>
> thank you very much for the help. I am not really sure if it is
> correct what I did, but it works so far perfectly:
>
> DLL #1, "mmsystem.dll"
>   DECL LONG midiOutShortMsg(w,l)
>   DECL LONG midiOutOpen(l,w,l,l,l)
>   DECL LONG midiOutClose(w)
> ENDDLL
> MIDIMAPPER&   = -1
> IF ^midiOutOpen(*hmo&, MIDIMAPPER&, NULL, NULL, 0)
>   PRINT "no success!"
>   KEYGET k
>   END
> ENDIF
> MidiSendEvent(hmo&,144,0,64,100)
> ~^midiOutClose(hmo&)
> END
> PROCEDURE MidiSendEvent(hmo&, status&, channel&, data1&, data2&)
>   BYTE{*lmsg% + 0} = status& | channel&
>   BYTE{*lmsg% + 1} = data1&
>   BYTE{*lmsg% + 2} = data2&
>   BYTE{*lmsg% + 3} = 0
>   ~^midiOutShortMsg(hmo&, lmsg%)
> RETURN
>
> Now, the question remains how to do the other way round, receiving
> from the MIDI IN. I will try to figure it out myself, but I do not see
> anything like midiInShortMessage ....
>
> Andras
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List Member John Findlay <Jayef@compuserve.com> wrote:

I believe that applications in NT have private memory and address space
that cannot be accessed by another app. Is there a way around this
restriction?

I need to pass an address to another app that can read the contents of th=
e
memory pointer to by that address.

At this time I get 'access violation' from Dr. Watson!



John
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List Member ralfar@ix.netcom.com wrote:
	Hi all.  I use the freeware basic portion of GFA, not the "windows" 
programming portion.  I use this primarily because of the much larger arrays 
one can use with GFA when compared with QB45.  I would like to know if a new 
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List Member "EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" <JoeHurst@snafu.de> wrote:
> I believe that applications in NT have private memory and address space
> that cannot be accessed by another app. Is there a way around this
> restriction?
There is no way out from this situation. In the cases when appl. need to change
information DDE or OLE must be used.

Bye, Joe

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List Member John Findlay <Jayef@compuserve.com> wrote:

Joe,

>There is no way out from this situation. In the cases when appl. need to=

change
information DDE or OLE must be used.<

OK, I think that's the end of my little experiment with NT!

One other way is to use a named pipe (to transfer the data) but I not sur=
e
it's worth the effort.

Thanks.

John
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List Member "EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" <JoeHurst@snafu.de> wrote:
> One other way is to use a named pipe (to transfer the data) but I not sure
> it's worth the effort.
Yes, but usually "Named pipes" is a protocol for network-communication, as used
in Oracle >=6.

By,e Joe

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Am working w/ a dialog using DS_MODALFRAME & cannot fill it.

I *think* it was John F. that used something that contained
the phrase BTNFACE or some such animal that allows the user's
colorscheme to set the fill color.

I've lost track.  DLG 3D ON/OFF doesn't color it after compile.
DLG FILL 1,GETNEAREST(192,192,192) fills it with BLACK!

Help?
<G>
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List Member mechanic <mechanic@sonet.net> wrote:
Tom Record wrote:
> 
> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Am working w/ a dialog using DS_MODALFRAME & cannot fill it.
> 
> I *think* it was John F. that used something that contained
> the phrase BTNFACE or some such animal that allows the user's
> colorscheme to set the fill color.
> 
> I've lost track.  DLG 3D ON/OFF doesn't color it after compile.
> DLG FILL 1,GETNEAREST(192,192,192) fills it with BLACK!

Hi Tom, maybe it was one of the following:

COLOR_ACTIVEBORDER
COLOR_ACTIVECAPTION
COLOR_APPWORKSPACE
COLOR_BACKGROUND
COLOR_BTNFACE        <--------*
COLOR_BTNSHADOW
COLOR_BTNTEXT 
COLOR_CAPTIONTEXT
COLOR_GRAYTEXT
COLOR_HIGHLIGHT
COLOR_HIGHLIGHTTEXT
COLOR_INACTIVEBORDER
COLOR_INACTIVECAPTION
COLOR_MENU
COLOR_MENUTEXT
COLOR_SCROLLBAR
COLOR_WINDOW
COLOR_WINDOWFRAME
COLOR_WINDOWTEXT

Beware that these came out of a 32-bit API winhelp file so some of these
may not be the same as for 16-bit!
I hope this helps!

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Mebbeso
why I never got it to work in my apps.
Thanks, Doyle.
<G>
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At 09:57 PM 08/06/99 -0500, you wrote:
>List Member mechanic <mechanic@sonet.net> wrote:
>Tom Record wrote:
>> 
>> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> Am working w/ a dialog using DS_MODALFRAME & cannot fill it.
>> 
>> I *think* it was John F. that used something that contained
>> the phrase BTNFACE or some such animal that allows the user's
>> colorscheme to set the fill color.
>> 
>> I've lost track.  DLG 3D ON/OFF doesn't color it after compile.
>> DLG FILL 1,GETNEAREST(192,192,192) fills it with BLACK!
>
>Hi Tom, maybe it was one of the following:
>
>COLOR_ACTIVEBORDER
>COLOR_ACTIVECAPTION
>COLOR_APPWORKSPACE
>COLOR_BACKGROUND
>COLOR_BTNFACE        <--------*
>COLOR_BTNSHADOW
>COLOR_BTNTEXT 
>COLOR_CAPTIONTEXT
>COLOR_GRAYTEXT
>COLOR_HIGHLIGHT
>COLOR_HIGHLIGHTTEXT
>COLOR_INACTIVEBORDER
>COLOR_INACTIVECAPTION
>COLOR_MENU
>COLOR_MENUTEXT
>COLOR_SCROLLBAR
>COLOR_WINDOW
>COLOR_WINDOWFRAME
>COLOR_WINDOWTEXT
>
>Beware that these came out of a 32-bit API winhelp file so some of these
>may not be the same as for 16-bit!
>I hope this helps!
>
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List Member John Findlay <Jayef@compuserve.com> wrote:

Tom,

192,192,192 IS grey but it is not the colour for '3D LOOK'.

Here is what I would use for a GFA dialog;

 DLG FILL 1, GetSysColor(COLOR_BTNFACE)

Example;

 OPENW #1
 DIALOG #1, 10, 100, 200, 160, "Demo Dialog"
 ENDDIALOG
 DLG FILL 1, GetSysColor(COLOR_BTNFACE)
 SHOWDIALOG #1
 DO
   GETEVENT
 UNTIL MENU(1) =3D 4
 CLOSEDIALOG #1
 CLOSEW #1

This works compiled and interpreted.

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Thanks, John
I wasn't getting all of it in properly, I guess.

"192,192,192" is close enough for government work <G>, but
*I* actually prefer "225,225,225".

DLG FILL 1, GetSysColor(COLOR_BTNFACE) just checked out.

Again, thank you.  Very much.  I'm trying to "grow".

An idiotic question if I may...
Why start a dialog off as BASE PIXEL to size & position it,
then go to BASE UNIT to build it?  UNIT eats my lunch every
time I try to use it despite all the griping from others!
It takes 35 runs to position anything because I can't make
the mental adjustment.  It's just as bad as, if not worse
than "twips"!  I don't understand any reason to use *that*
unless it's the only option open!

<G>
TomR.


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>List Member John Findlay <Jayef@compuserve.com> wrote:
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>Tom,
>
>192,192,192 IS grey but it is not the colour for '3D LOOK'.
>
>Here is what I would use for a GFA dialog;
>
> DLG FILL 1, GetSysColor(COLOR_BTNFACE)
>
>Example;
>
> OPENW #1
> DIALOG #1, 10, 100, 200, 160, "Demo Dialog"
> ENDDIALOG
> DLG FILL 1, GetSysColor(COLOR_BTNFACE)
> SHOWDIALOG #1
> DO
>   GETEVENT
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> CLOSEDIALOG #1
> CLOSEW #1
>
>This works compiled and interpreted.
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Tom,

>Why start a dialog off as BASE PIXEL to size & position it, then go to
BASE UNIT to build it? <

Well, there's no accounting for taste as I'm sure your aware.

The essential thing is that DLG BASE UNIT adjusts for different size font=
s.

The user sets the font size from the 'Display Properties' dialog. My font=
s
for example are set to 125% (Large Fonts) so if you use DLG BASE PIXEL to=

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ly
be chopped off, left and right.

You can use DLG BASE UNIT for the dialog itself and the controls, but to
use BASE PIXEL for controls will create an unsightly mess on many peoples=

displays.

Excuse my ramblings.

BTW, Dale has had a little problem with his 'puter' so the news letter ha=
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Tom,

I will add that if you use DLG BASE PIXEL for one and DLG BASE UNIT for t=
he
other you will still get a mess because your controls will be the wrong
size compared to the dialog. Use DLG BASE UNIT for both.

Perhaps you could do some experiments, change the font size and change th=
e
button colours in the 'Display Properties' dialog and you will soon
discover what's what.


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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Maybe send it to you to look at how it behaves soon.  He used PIXEL just
to set up a dialog.  All internals are UNIT.  I was just curious because
it looks OK on here either way.  It's too much trouble to set this one
to 800x600 or bigger & to top it off, is only a 14" monitor so anything
set that way would be microscopic.
<G>
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>Tom,
>
>>Why start a dialog off as BASE PIXEL to size & position it, then go to
>BASE UNIT to build it? <
>
>Well, there's no accounting for taste as I'm sure your aware.
>
>The essential thing is that DLG BASE UNIT adjusts for different size fonts.
>
>The user sets the font size from the 'Display Properties' dialog. My fonts
>for example are set to 125% (Large Fonts) so if you use DLG BASE PIXEL to
>size your controls the text in a button (and other things) will most likely
>be chopped off, left and right.
>
>You can use DLG BASE UNIT for the dialog itself and the controls, but to
>use BASE PIXEL for controls will create an unsightly mess on many peoples
>displays.
>
>Excuse my ramblings.
>
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
I'll accept that you're right <G>.  It was just a point of curiosity
because something I started off with as a basic starting point is
set up that way & I was just curious if there was an advantage.
<G>
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>Tom,
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>I will add that if you use DLG BASE PIXEL for one and DLG BASE UNIT for the
>other you will still get a mess because your controls will be the wrong
>size compared to the dialog. Use DLG BASE UNIT for both.
>
>Perhaps you could do some experiments, change the font size and change the
>button colours in the 'Display Properties' dialog and you will soon
>discover what's what.
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Hey

Disregard... it was far easier to convert the whole dialog to BASE
than to position one control in it using BASE!  Just one line had to
be changed.

Next step... positioning/centering the darned thing.  Since I work in
640x480, I can proudly say that at least mine won't be left hanging
off on the right & bottom, thereby hiding the exit button like so many 
of the examples do.

<G>
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Tom,

>It's too much trouble to set this one to 800x600 or bigger & to top it
off, is only a 14" monitor so anything set that way would be microscopic.=
<

You don't need to change the screen size to change the font size. They ar=
e
set independently.

>Next step... positioning/centering the darned thing.<

If you use DLG BASE UNIT and you need absolute positioning you can use
SetWindowPos() with the SWP_NOSIZE flag set. It's a good idea to make the=

dialog a child of the main window as well. ~SetParent(DLG(1), WIN(1)) the=
n
it won't go behind the main window if the mouse a clicked around.


Example;

wScrn& =3D _X
hScrn& =3D _Y

OPENW #1, 2, 0, _X, _Y, ~15
style1% =3D WS_TABSTOP
HWND_TOP& =3D 0

TYPE RECT:
- WORD left
- WORD top
- WORD right
- WORD bottom
ENDTYPE
RECT: rc.

DLG BASE UNIT
DIALOG #1, 14, 9, 140, 90, "Demo Dialog"
  PUSHBUTTON    "Pushbutton 1", 100, 12, 14, 72, 14, style1%
ENDDIALOG
DLG FILL 1, GetSysColor(COLOR_BTNFACE)

~GetWindowRect(DLG(1), *rc.)    ' Get the window rectangle
~SetParent(DLG(1), WIN(1))      ' Give it a parent

' Set it mid-way horiz
~SetWindowPos(DLG(1), HWND_TOP&, wScrn& \ 2 - (rc.right - rc.left) \ 2, 4=
0,
0, 0, SWP_NOSIZE)

SHOWDIALOG #1

DO
  GETEVENT
UNTIL MENU(1) =3D 4
CLOSEDIALOG #1
CLOSEW #1

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Not quite how I envisioned it <G>.

I'm working without a window this time.  I've been laughed at for
having a window fill the screen to cover up the background.  I
reckon that's suitable & even necessary to center a BASE dialog.

The only reason to center it would be to satisfy a desire for
symetry.  It's gettin there - starting to look more like what I
envisioned when I started.

Still have wrinkles to iron out, but progress is showing up.

Thanks for the assist, John - it's invaluable.
<G>
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
10/06/99 04:27:34 AM   troubleshooting   1006xx1-

>From gfanl132....

How to get the tmp$ to reflect clicking on [..] & drop the last addition?
The dir listing/display behaves properly, but tmp$, no.  I've tried all that
I can imagine, even to completely wiping the text completely out.  Nothing
seems to work.

The following 2 procedures contain 2 erroneous lines (as remarked).

PROCEDURE takefind
  emptystr$ = SPACE$(16)
  BMOVE V:emptystr$,V:puffer$,16
  id& = SendMessage(DLGITEM(0,139),LB_GETCURSEL,0,0)
  VOID SendMessage(DLGITEM(0,139),LB_GETTEXT,id&,V:puffer$)
  tk$ = CHAR{V:puffer$}
The following line causes directories to over-print, 1 ucase$, 1 lcase$!
  _WIN$(DLGITEM(0,140)) =   drive$ + ":\" + tmp$ + tk$ + "" //this is the
selected path
*This* following line performs just fine.
  _WIN$(DLGITEM(0,140)) =   drive$ + ":\" + LCASE$(tmp$) + "" //this is the
selected path
  IF INSTR(tk$,"[") THEN @select // If a directory was selected
  ~SetFocus(DLGITEM(0,140))
RETURN
PROCEDURE select
  IF MID$(tk$,1,2) = "[-" AND MID$(tk$,4,2) = "-]"//drive was selected
    drive$ = MID$(tk$,3,1)
    CHDIR drive$ + ":\"
    a$ = drive$ + ":\"
    drive& = 1
    CLR tmp$
The following line MUST be 2 lines... this is NOT wrap.
  ELSE   IF MID$(tk$,1,1) = "[" AND MID$(tk$,2,1) <> "-" //directory was
selected
The following _2_ lines are correct.
  ELSE
  IF MID$(tk$,1,1) = "[" AND MID$(tk$,2,1) <> "-" //directory was selected
    path$ = MID$(tk$,2,LEN(tk$) - 2)
    CHDIR path$
    drive& = 0
  ENDIF
  ENDIF
  IF drive& = 0 THEN tmp$ =   MID$(DIR$(ASC(UPPER$(MID$(drive$,1,1))) -
64),2) + "\"
  IF tmp$ = "\" THEN CLR tmp$
  @vvv
RETURN

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List Member "Roland Walter" <alibaba@zedat.fu-berlin.de> wrote:
> I understand that the most basic element to send out MIDI data is
> ~^midiOutShortMsg(hmo&, lmsg%),
> but I do not see how can I call it directly from a program, 
> what kind of initialization is necessary?

First You have to declare the Low-Level MIDI routines wich the
MMSYSTEM.DLL exports. This is a little bit stupid job. But once
You have done this job the rest is not a big problem. See the
following short listing.

Bye, Roland
---------------------------------------------------------------
[LOW_MIDI.LST]

'Low-Level MIDI: The basicly needed functions for output 
'(C) Roland Walter, June 1999 (alibaba@zedat.fu-berlin.de)
'
DLL #1,"mmsystem" 'declaration of the needed functions
  DECL WORD midiOutOpen(l,w,l,l,l) AS 204
  DECL WORD midiOutClose(w) AS 205
  DECL WORD midiOutReset(w) AS 210
  DECL WORD midiOutShortMsg(w,l) AS 208
  DECL WORD midiOutGetErrorText(w,l,w) AS 203
ENDDLL
'
' Open the MIDI-Mapper (-1) and error handling:
'
hMidiOut&=0  'This variable receives the device handle
Error&=@@midiOutOpen(V:hMidiOut&,-1,0,0,0) 'open device
'
IF Error&  'error value: get textual error message
  Error$ = SPACE$(128)
  ~@@midiOutGetErrorText(Error&,V:Error$,LEN(Error$))
  MESSAGE Error$,"Error:",MB_OK,Dummy&
  FREEDLL 1
  END
ENDIF
'
'Now we send some MIDI messages to the opened device
'Do'nt confuse MIDI messages with normal Windows messages.
'Search the Internet for "MIDI messages" to find the documentation
'off the full set of MIDI messages.
'
'$FF=System Reset
~@@midiOutShortMsg(hMidiOut&,$FF)
'
'$00=Instrument ($00 is piano); $C0=Change instrument ("program")
~@@midiOutShortMsg(hMidiOut&,$00C0)
'
'$70=Velocity to $70, $40=Note Number, $90=Channel 1 NoteOn
~@@midiOutShortMsg(hMidiOut&,$704090)
'
'Now we make system independent wait loop:
StartTime%=TIMER
EndTime%=StartTime%+1000  '1000 Milliseconds
DO
  '16Bit Windows is a cooperative Multitasking. It would be very
  'problematic to grab all the system power for a wait loop.
  'Using PEEKEVENT let's run the loop (GETEVENT can not be
  'used) but passes the control back to the system as long as
  'we do'nt need it.
  PEEKEVENT
LOOP UNTIL TIMER>=EndTime%
'
'$00=Velocity to $00, $40=Note Number, $90=Channel 1 NoteOn
~@@midiOutShortMsg(hMidiOut&,$004090)
'
~@@midiOutReset(hMidiOut&) 'reset the device
~@@midiOutClose(hMidiOut&) 'close the device

FREEDLL 1  'free the MMSYSTEM.DLL


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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@msn.com> wrote:
The RICHDLL (RTF Files) is available for download from the site below. It
seems some dummy forgot to upload it to the server at GFA.NET.  I think it
might have been John Findlays fault and as soon as I can think up some way
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My apologies to all who have tried to download it.
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List Member "Andras Szalay" <a.szalay@mail.matav.hu> wrote:
Dear Roland,

thank you very much for the MIDI output routine.
Probably you missed our next letters with John,
where we came to a similar result, but especially
the error handling in your routine is much more 
accurate, so I will use it. 

>>'Don't confuse MIDI messages with normal Windows messages.
My profession is the development of electronic musical instruments,
so I am very familiar with MIDI messages; unfortunately far less 
familiar with Windows messages ;-(

Now, the question remains how to do the other way round, receiving
from the MIDI IN and e.g. printing the data on the screen. I asked this
question a few days ago, and John gave me some advices, but I did
not come yet further. Can you probably help?

Andras

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List Member Vogel Michael <vo@schoeller.at> wrote:
Hi,
   after weeks of trying to use routines from Eberhard and others to get a
Win 3.1 compatible procedure for converting a true color bitmap (get
0,0,x,y,bitmap&) into a good-looking 256 color bitmap for saveing it to a
file, I am lost.
  So I give up, like my tries to use Winsock.Dll for accessing the LAN or to
get information for laptop battery status using APM.

  Maybe anyone will solve it in further future,
  good luck,
	Michael


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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
11/06/99 08:10:49 AM   trouble!!!!!   1106xx1-

File-handling GURUs...

Is this a job for _lopen()?
h&=_lopen(path$+filename$+chr$(0),OF_READWRITE)
h& is file handle.  Yeah, from where?

All I want to do is learn something new _&_ strip a chr$(32) off the
end of each line in the file without writing another file that would
have to be renamed afterward.

This particular file is ~270K & contains ~15,817 lines of data.  The
next one could be much larger!  Am I asking too much?

/* "u" (update) opens an existing file for both reading and writing.

OPENW #1
FILESELECT "*.*","",n$
DEFMOUSE 2
OPEN "u",#1, n$
DO UNTIL EOF(#1)
  LINE INPUT #1,a$
  b$ = TRIM$(a$)
  /*  PRINT #1,b$  /* "No such file or directory" !!!
  WRITE #1,b$  /* same crap! "No such file or directory" !!!
LOOP
CLOSE #1
DEFMOUSE 0
KEYGET a%
CLOSEW #1
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List Member John Findlay <Jayef@compuserve.com> wrote:

Tom,

>>
h& =3D _lopen(path$+filename$+chr$(0),OF_READWRITE)
h& is file handle.  Yeah, from where?
<<

What do you mean where from? _lopen returns the value of the file handle!=
!!

RE: You code;

It's much easier to save out a different file, kill the old one and renam=
e
the new one.

Anyway, you can try the OPEN "r" not OPEN "u"; you will have sort out the=

file pointer position with RELSEEK. Very tricky I think because you are
changing the lenghts of the strings. This would work ok if you were not
changing the lenghts.

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List Member John Findlay <Jayef@compuserve.com> wrote:
 =

Tom,

Any luck? :-)

Actually OPEN "u" seems to need RELSEEK as well.

I still think you will find it difficult though. Perhaps someone has
already done what you are trying to do and can send the code.

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Yeah, John
You're probably right (you usually are, dang it).  I was just trying to
avoid "the easy way".
Thankls.
<G>
TomR.


At 10:09 AM 11/06/99 -0400, you wrote:
>List Member John Findlay <Jayef@compuserve.com> wrote:
>
>Tom,
>
>>>
>h& = _lopen(path$+filename$+chr$(0),OF_READWRITE)
>h& is file handle.  Yeah, from where?
><<
>
>What do you mean where from? _lopen returns the value of the file handle!!!
>
>RE: You code;
>
>It's much easier to save out a different file, kill the old one and rename
>the new one.
>
>Anyway, you can try the OPEN "r" not OPEN "u"; you will have sort out the
>file pointer position with RELSEEK. Very tricky I think because you are
>changing the lenghts of the strings. This would work ok if you were not
>changing the lenghts.
>
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
John
No, had to shut down for a little while... ran out of steam.
I'll give'em both a whirl later this afternoon & get back to
you on the results.  I've been mulling it all over & over in
my mind, & I think it's impossible.  From so long ago I forgot
what color her eyes were I *think* I remember that any & all
alterations in a sequential file must be padded... The written
file can't be changed in size.  I have a feeling now that it
can be done, but only by moving everything after the changes
one byte forward to fill the void as they're generated & then 
the final record has to be padded or something or other.  I'm
still groggy, so forgive non-intelligebility.  At 15,817 records
theres a lot of padding to be done on it's behind <G>.

In short, a record can be altered in any way but it's length - 
that's fixed by the fat for the whole file.  Of no use, so the
best way is to just write a new file w/o the 1 byte per record.
<G>
TomR.



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>Tom,
>
>Any luck? :-)
>
>Actually OPEN "u" seems to need RELSEEK as well.
>
>I still think you will find it difficult though. Perhaps someone has
>already done what you are trying to do and can send the code.
>
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List Member "Andras Szalay" <a.szalay@mail.matav.hu> wrote:
I am trying to do my first steps for getting MIDI IN. 
At first I wanted to implement a MIDI THRU function
by using midiConnect(), which does exactly that. 
However, as I tried to initialize MIDI IN, I get an
error message:

"MMSYSTEM002 A device ID has been used 
that is out of range for your system."
 
I did the following:

DLL #1, "mmsystem.dll"
  DECL LONG midiInOpen(l,w,l,l,l)
  DECL LONG midiInGetErrorText(w,l,w)
ENDDLL
MIDIMAPPER&   = -1
er& = @@midiInOpen(*hmi&, MIDIMAPPER&, NULL, NULL, 0)
IF er&
  Error$ = SPACE$(128)
  ~@@midiInGetErrorText(er&,V:Error$,LEN(Error$))
  MESSAGE Error$,"Error (Midi In):",MB_OK,Dummy&
ENDIF

I wonder what can be wrong. midiInOpen is exactly like 
midiOutOpen, and midiOutOpen works. Also I do not
have problems with using commercial MIDI recording
programs, so hardware and device driver should be OK.

Andras

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List Member Christof.Schardt@t-online.de (Christof Schardt) wrote:
MIDIMAPPER (-1) is only valid for output MIDI-Data.
The range of input devices starts at 0.
So try

er& = @@midiInOpen(*hmi&, 0 , NULL, NULL, 0)


Bye
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List Member "Andras Szalay" <a.szalay@mail.matav.hu> wrote:
Sorry for the previous letter, I found out the answer in between.
midiInOpen must not get -1 as a second parameter, it should be 0.
So, the MIDI THRU routine would be like that:

midi_init
DO
  PEEKEVENT
  EXIT IF INKEY$ <> ""
LOOP
midi_close
END
PROCEDURE midi_init
  DLL #1, "mmsystem.dll"
    DECL LONG midiOutShortMsg(w,l)
    DECL LONG midiOutOpen(l,w,l,l,l)
    DECL LONG midiInOpen(l,w,l,l,l)
    DECL LONG midiOutClose(w)
    DECL LONG midiInClose(w)
    DECL LONG midiOutGetErrorText(w,l,w)
    DECL LONG midiInGetErrorText(w,l,w)
    DECL LONG midiConnect(w,w,l)
    DECL LONG midiDisconnect(w,w,l)
  ENDDLL
  MIDIMAPPER&   = -1
  ' ******** MIDI OUT *********************
  er& = @@midiOutOpen(*hmo&, MIDIMAPPER&, NULL, NULL, 0)
  IF er&
    Error$ = SPACE$(128)
    ~@@midiOutGetErrorText(er&,V:Error$,LEN(Error$))
    MESSAGE Error$,"Error (Midi Out):",MB_OK,Dummy&
  ENDIF
  ' ******** MIDI IN *********************
  er& = @@midiInOpen(*hmi&, NULL, NULL, NULL, 0)
  IF er&
    Error$ = SPACE$(128)
    ~@@midiInGetErrorText(er&,V:Error$,LEN(Error$))
    MESSAGE Error$,"Error (Midi In):",MB_OK,Dummy&
  ENDIF
  ' ******** CONNECT *********************
  er& = @@midiConnect(hmi&,hmo&,NULL)
  IF er&
    Error$ = SPACE$(128)
    ~@@midiOutGetErrorText(er&,V:Error$,LEN(Error$))
    MESSAGE Error$,"Error (Connect):",MB_OK,Dummy&
  ENDIF
RETURN
PROCEDURE midi_close
  ~^midiDisconnect(hmi&,hmo&,NULL)
  ~^midiOutClose(hmo&)
  ~^midiInClose(hmi&)
RETURN

However, it does not come so far, it breaks down by the DLL
declaration of midiConnect and midiDisconnect with the 
message:
Dll-Function undefined.
These functions must be in mmsystem.dll as well, why aren't 
they recognized?

Andras

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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@msn.com> wrote:

----- Original Message -----
From: Dale Bryant <adbryant@msn.com>
To: Fabio Serblin <fase@faseaudio.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 10, 1999 11:40 AM
Subject: Re: to buy GFA


> Hi Fabio,
> This is the latest information that I have. It should be pretty much up to
> date.
> Take care,
> Dale Bryant
>
> **********************************
>
> Sources for GFA BASIC
>
> **********************************
> **********************************
>
> NOTE: Prices may have changed - check with supplier
>
> Here is the latest information on GFA:
>
> USA contact:
> Paul Lettieri
> tel 230 741-2281  fax 203 745-7932
> PTR-Precision Tech
> att: Paul Lettieri
> PTR address:
> 120 Post Rd.
> Enfield, CT 06082
> E-Mail on CS: 75300,3224 /now on GFA.NET
>
> German contact:
> Sven Thomas
> Dieter Schmitz
> GFA Systemtechnik GmbH
> Postfach 10 09 49
> D-41009 Moenchengladbach
> phone (as dialed from USA) 011 49 2161 43866
> fax       (as dialed from USA)  011 49 2161 43825
> bbs     (as dialed from USA)  011 49 2161 482460 [v.terbo, 8N1, 24h]
> info@gfa.net
> [ED - REMEMBER, GFA IS NO LONGER ON Compuserve!!]
>
> UK contact:
> GEMWORKS DIRECT
> 46 Hampton Close
> Herne Bay
> Kent CT6 8BZ
> United Kingdom
>
>  E-Mail: gfa@gemworks.demon.co.uk
>  Telefon: +44-1227-742790
>  Fax: +44-1227-742791
>  Web: http://www.gemworks.demon.co.uk
>
>
> Current Windows 3.x version 4.38 (June 1996)  /Compiler 1.07 (Sep 23 1996)
>       price is $395 + 9 s+h upgrades: $35 + $6 S+h (generally depending on
> which version you would be ugrading from)
>       description: (languages English, German)
>
> Windows95 version is in work. Estimated ship date: Other versions
available:
> Atari ST/MEGA/STe/TT version  3.5e  price: $149.95
> + 9 s+h.
> Also still available: Amiga versions. For prices please ask the next
> reachable GFA distributor
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Fabio Serblin
> To: adbryant@msn.com
> Sent: Thursday, June 10, 1999 10:31 AM
> Subject: to buy GFA
>
>
> Hi Dale,
>
> i'd like to buy the GFA for windows but can't find where to buy it. I'm
> living in Italy.
>
> Do you have information where to buy it ?
>
> thank you
>
> Fabio Serblin
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List Member John Findlay <Jayef@compuserve.com> wrote:

Andras,

>These functions must be in mmsystem.dll as well, why aren't they
recognized?<

One would expect to find them in the dll, however I can't find them liste=
d
in the exports section of mmsystem.dll. There seems to be a lack of
documentation generally.

I have a C listing that does MIDI input, it's _very_ complicated, and it
doesn't use midiConnect() or midiDisconnect().


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List Member "Andras Szalay" <a.szalay@mail.matav.hu> wrote:
John Findlay wrote: 
>> I have a C listing that does MIDI input, it's _very_ complicated, and it
>> doesn't use midiConnect() or midiDisconnect().
Of course, for MIDI Input you do not need midiConnect() or 
midiDisconnect(), this was just a "sidestep" from my side, as a
simplest way to check if I can open the input, but it is not
important at all as a goal. I found a C listing either, which I do
not find very complicated, and does exactly the example what
I wanted as a test (printing the incoming messages on the screen).
I found this in the API Bible fro Richard J. Simon. The whole
initialization is quite understandable, the only thing I do not know
-- and therefore I cannot start to try to convert it to GFW -- is
that the messages are received in the following line of a callback 
procedure, and I do not know how to implement this in GFW, how 
would it be called up by Windows?

      case MM_MIM_DATA :
              {
                 sprintf(msg, "Short Message: %x %x %x",
                         LOBYTE( LOWORD(lParam) ), 
                         HIBYTE( LOWORD(lParam) ),   
                         LOBYTE( HIWORD(lParam) ) );
                 SendMessage(hListBox, LB_ADDSTRING, 0, (LPARAM)msg);  



The whole callback procedure is the following:



#define MSG_LEN          1024
#define DATABLOCK_SIZE   1024L

// global variables
//.................

enum Status
{
  StatusOn,
  StatusError,
  StatusOff,
} eStatus = StatusOff;

char     msg[MSG_LEN+1];

HWND     hListBox = NULL;
MMRESULT rc;

UINT       nDevId = 0;
HMIDIIN    hmi = NULL;
MIDIHDR*   pmh = NULL;


LRESULT CALLBACK WndProc( HWND hWnd, UINT uMsg, WPARAM 
wParam, LPARAM lParam )
{
   switch( uMsg )
   {
      case WM_CREATE :
              
              eStatus = StatusOff;
              SetWindowText(hWnd, "MIDI Input - Off");

              // allocate MIDIHDR buffer block
	           //..............................

              pmh = (MIDIHDR*)HeapAlloc( GetProcessHeap(),                         
	                            HEAP_ZERO_MEMORY,                         
	                            sizeof(MIDIHDR) );                        
              if (pmh)                                                  
              {                                                            
                  pmh->lpData = HeapAlloc( GetProcessHeap(),             
                                           HEAP_ZERO_MEMORY,             
                                           DATABLOCK_SIZE);                       
                  pmh->dwBufferLength = DATABLOCK_SIZE;
              }
              else
                  return(-1);

              // create ListBox
              //...............

              hListBox = CreateWindow( "LISTBOX", "",    
                                       WS_CHILD | LBS_NOTIFY | WS_VSCROLL | 
WS_BORDER | 
                                       WS_VISIBLE | LBS_NOINTEGRALHEIGHT, 
                                       0, 0, 
                                       0, 0,  
                                       hWnd,              
                                       (HMENU)101,              
                                       hInst,         
                                       NULL );
              break;

      case WM_SIZE :
              MoveWindow( hListBox, 0, 0, 
                          LOWORD( lParam ), 
                          HIWORD( lParam ), TRUE );
              break;

      case WM_COMMAND :
              switch( LOWORD( wParam ) )
              {
                 case IDM_ON :
                        {
                           if (eStatus == StatusOn)
                               break; // already on

                           SendMessage(hListBox, LB_RESETCONTENT, 0, 0);

                           rc = midiInOpen(&hmi, nDevId, (DWORD)hWnd, 
                                           (DWORD)NULL, CALLBACK_WINDOW);
                           
                           if (rc == MMSYSERR_NOERROR)
                               rc = midiInReset(hmi);
                           
                           if (rc == MMSYSERR_NOERROR) 
                               rc = midiInPrepareHeader(hmi, pmh, sizeof(MIDIHDR));
                           
                           if (rc == MMSYSERR_NOERROR)
                               rc = midiInAddBuffer(hmi, pmh, sizeof(MIDIHDR));

                           if (rc == MMSYSERR_NOERROR)
                               rc = midiInStart(hmi);
                           
                           if (rc == MMSYSERR_NOERROR)
                           {
                               eStatus = StatusOn;
                               SetWindowText(hWnd, "MIDI Input - On");
                           }
                           else
                           {
                               midiInGetErrorText(rc, msg, MSG_LEN);
                               MessageBox(hWnd, msg, NULL, MB_OK);
                               break;
                           }
                        }
                        break;

                 case IDM_ABOUT :
                        DialogBox( hInst, "AboutBox", hWnd, About );
                        break;

                 case IDM_OFF :
                        {
                           if (eStatus == StatusOff)
                               break; // already off

                           midiInStop(hmi);
                           midiInReset(hmi);
                           midiInUnprepareHeader(hmi, pmh, sizeof(MIDIHDR));
                           midiInClose(hmi);

                           eStatus = StatusOff;
                           SetWindowText(hWnd, "MIDI Input - Off");
                        }
                        break;

                 case IDM_EXIT :
                        DestroyWindow( hWnd );
                        break;
              }
              break;
     
      case MM_MIM_DATA :
              {
                 sprintf(msg, "Short Message: %x %x %x",
                         LOBYTE( LOWORD(lParam) ), 
                         HIBYTE( LOWORD(lParam) ),   
                         LOBYTE( HIWORD(lParam) ) );
                 SendMessage(hListBox, LB_ADDSTRING, 0, (LPARAM)msg);  

              }
              break;

      case WM_DESTROY :

              // shut down midi
              //...............

              if (hmi)
              {
                  midiInStop(hmi);
                  midiInReset(hmi);
                  midiInUnprepareHeader(hmi, pmh, sizeof(MIDIHDR));
                  midiInClose(hmi);
              }
       
              // free the MIDIHDR buffer block
	           //..............................

              if (pmh != NULL)
              {
                  HeapFree(GetProcessHeap(), 0, pmh->lpData);                 
                  HeapFree(GetProcessHeap(), 0, pmh);
                  pmh = NULL;
	           }

              PostQuitMessage(0);
              break;

      default :
            return( DefWindowProc( hWnd, uMsg, wParam, lParam ) );
   }

   return( 0L );               
}

LRESULT CALLBACK About( HWND hDlg,           
                        UINT message,        
                        WPARAM wParam,       
                        LPARAM lParam)
{
   switch (message) 
   {
       case WM_INITDIALOG: 
               return (TRUE);

       case WM_COMMAND:                              
               if (   LOWORD(wParam) == IDOK         
                   || LOWORD(wParam) == IDCANCEL)    
               {
                       EndDialog(hDlg, TRUE);        
                       return (TRUE);
               }
               break;
   }

   return (FALSE); 
}



					Andras Szalay


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List Member John Findlay <Jayef@compuserve.com> wrote:

Andras,

>Of course, for MIDI Input you do not need midiConnect() or =

midiDisconnect(), this was just a "sidestep" from my side, <

But it's strange that those API's are not listed in the dll!

>I found this in the API Bible fro Richard J. Simon. The whole
initialization is quite understandable,<

Could you send me the listing/s and header/s and .rc? I'll might try to
convert them to GFA.


> and I do not know how to implement this in GFW, how would it be called =
up
by Windows?<

Callbacks in GFA are quite simple using something like this;

   _CB(1) =3D WndProc(wwwl)        ' Tell Windows where to send messages
   lpWndProc% =3D _CB(1)   =


Then pass lpWndProc% to the API that needs the address of the callback.
Windows then knows where to send the messages.



Below is a partial conversion of the listing; more work is needed to have=

it working.

John

HeapAlloc() and GetProcessHeap() cannot be used, use MALLOC instead.

PROCEDURE WndProc(hWnd&, uMsg&, wParam&, lParam%)

  SWITCH uMsg&
  CASE WM_CREATE
    pmh% =3D MALLOC(LEN(MIDIHDR:))
    MEMBFILL pmh%, LEN(MIDIHDR:), 0

    IF pmh%
      pmh% =3D MALLOC(LEN(MIDIHDR:))
      {pmh%}.lpData =3D MALLOC(DATABLOCK_SIZE%)
      MEMBFILL {pmh%}.lpData, DATABLOCK_SIZE%, 0
      {pmh%}.dwBufferLength =3D DATABLOCK_SIZE%
    ELSE
      RETVAL -1
      EXPROC
    ENDIF

  CASE WM_SIZE
  CASE WM_COMMAND
    SWITCH LOWORD(wParam&)
    CASE IDM_ON&
      IF eStatus =3D StatusOn
        EXPROC
      ENDIF // already on

      ~SendMessage(hListBox&, LB_RESETCONTENT, 0, 0)
      LET CALLBACK_WINDOW% =3D $00010000
      rc& =3D midiInOpen(*hmi&, nDevId&, hWnd&, NULL, CALLBACK_WINDOW%)


    CASE IDM_ABOUT&
      ~DialogBox(hInst&, "AboutBox", hWnd&, About)

    CASE IDM_OFF&
      IF eStatus =3D StatusOff
        EXPROC // already off
      ENDIF

    CASE IDM_EXIT&
      ~DestroyWindow(hWnd)
      EXPROC

    CASE MM_MIM_DATA&
      msg$ =3D "Short Message: " + STR$(LOBYTE(LOWORD(lParam))) + " " +
STR$(HIBYTE(LOWORD(lParam))) + " " + STR$(LOBYTE(HIWORD(lParam)))
      ~SendMessage(hListBox&, LB_ADDSTRING, 0, msg$)
    ENDSELECT

  CASE WM_DESTROY

    // shut down midi
    //...............

    IF hmi&
      ~^midiInStop(hmi&)
      ~^midiInReset(hmi&)
      ~^midiInUnprepareHeader(hmi&, pmh%, LEN(MIDIHDR:))
      ~^midiInClose(hmi&)
    ENDIF

    // free the MIDIHDR buffer block
    //..............................

    IF pmh% !=3D NULL
      ~MFREE({pmh%}.lpData)
      ~MFREE(pmh%)
      pmh% =3D NULL
    ENDIF

    ~PostQuitMessage(0)

  DEFAULT
    RETVAL DefWindowProc(hWnd&, uMsg&, wParam&, lParam%)
  ENDSELECT

RETURN
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Someone say something so I won't be so bored.
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List Member "Andras Szalay" <a.szalay@mail.matav.hu> wrote:
>> Could you send me the listing/s and header/s and .rc? I'll might try to
>> convert them to GFA.
John, this would be great if you could do that! I send you MIDIIN.ZIP
which consists of
MIDIIN.C
MIDIIN.H
MIDIIN.RC
MIDIIN.MAK
MIDIIN.EXE

Although it is only 18 kBytes, I do not want to spam everybody's mail
with that, I send you directly; if somebody else wants to have it, please
let me know, I'll send it.
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List Member John Findlay <Jayef@compuserve.com> wrote:

>Someone say something so I won't be so bored.<

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 Loudly shaking foundationless ties

For you Dale.

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>Someone say something so I won't be so bored.<

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Programmers using German, Dutch, French, Italian, Spanish...

Please let me know the font you use as your standard or system font.

I'm having a ton of trouble translating languages using SYSTEM &/or
FIXED SYSTEM - charactors with diacritical markings above or below
are NOT showing up as printable charactors.

I've had to switch to Courier New to even be able to identify the
missing charactors.  I am using two different translator programs
to do my vocabularies... I'm just dumping the "dictionaries" from 
one to obtain words I don't know.  The other is a very expensive
translator that I can't control the fonts in very easily & there
is no way for me to add new words except as new root words.  I
can't add new translations to it.  I also cannot get any kind of
response out of the people who wrote it or now sell it.  I got
screwed royally without benefit of a pat on the ass or even a kiss.

Well, I have to live with it & find ways around it's problems.  One
major problem is housekeeping... after running about 2,000 words thru
it, I have to reboot to clean up the memory & then delete whatever 
files it has generated.  The translator I'm writing takes care of these
things far better!  If I don't reboot, after about 2,000 words it takes
about 3 hours to translate the next 1,000, then it takes 1/2 hour to
save the translation.  What a crock!

Your help is greatly appreciated.
<G>
TomR.

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
John
If that doesn't do the trick, I wouldn't know what would!
<GGGGGGGG>
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>>Someone say something so I won't be so bored.<
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> For all the little fishes swimming
> Calming their minds within swirls
> Withal their hearting and minding
> Roundly satiated freely sets, and
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List Member John Findlay <Jayef@compuserve.com> wrote:

Tom,

>If that doesn't do the trick, I wouldn't know what would!<

I try to be helpful.

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Can anyone inform me where to get the Microsoft SDK file?
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Dale
There is an MS SDK file for everything under the sun!  Which one to you
want?  The Win3.1 SDK helpfile is on http:/TiGeR1.webjump.com/ 
It's pretty large & covers virtually everything in Win3.1.

Others you may have to search the net & MS for.
<G>
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List Member "Roland Walter" <alibaba@zedat.fu-berlin.de> wrote:
<color><param>7F00,0000,0000</param>   

> I did the following: 

>  


<FontFamily><param>Courier New</param>**************************************** 

<color><param>0000,0000,0000</param><FontFamily><param>ARIAL</param>It should be better to set the variable hmi& before You make 

a reference to by a pointer: 

hmi&=0   'this is just enough but You really sould do this 

<color><param>7F00,0000,0000</param><FontFamily><param>Courier New</param>**************************************** 

> er& = @@midiInOpen(*hmi&, MIDIMAPPER&, NULL, 
NULL, 0) 

><FontFamily><param>ARIAL</param> IF er& 

>   Error$ = SPACE$(128) 

>   ~@@midiInGetErrorText(er&,V:Error$,LEN(Error$)) 

>   MESSAGE Error$,"Error (Midi In):",MB_OK,Dummy& 

> ENDIF 



> I wonder what can be wrong. midiInOpen is exactly like  

> midiOutOpen, and midiOutOpen works. Also I do not 

> have problems with using commercial MIDI recording 

> programs, so hardware and device driver should be OK. 


<color><param>0000,0000,0000</param>Momently I cannot do tests, I am sorry... But try to set the variable 

before referencing. 

An other think: Did You close the device? - If not this could be Your 
problem.


Bye, Roland 

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List Member "Roland Walter" <alibaba@zedat.fu-berlin.de> wrote:
<FontFamily><param>Courier New</param>From:           	"Andras Szalay"  
<<a.szalay@mail.matav.hu>  

To:             	gfabasic@gfa.net  

Date sent:      	Fri, 11 Jun 1999 09:19:50 +0200 
 


Subject:        	Re: [gfabasic] John Findley's  
MIDI routine  

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<color><param>7F00,0000,0000</param>> >>'Don't confuse MIDI messages with normal  
Windows messages.  

> My profession is the development of electronic 
 musical instruments,  

> so I am very familiar with MIDI messages;  
unfortunately far less   

> familiar with Windows messages ;-(  

 </color>:-)))))))))))))))))))))) So I'm sory ;-)  


<color><param>7F00,0000,0000</param>> Now, the question remains how to do the other  
way round, receiving  

> from the MIDI IN and e.g. printing the data on 
 the screen. I asked this  

> question a few days ago, and John gave me some 
 advices, but I did  

> not come yet further. Can you probably help?  


</color>Do You have the "Windows 3.1 Multimedia   
Reference" from Microsoft (a Windows Help file)? 
  There are described all needed functions.  


<FontFamily><param>ARIAL</param>Bye, Roland  

<FontFamily><param>Courier New</param>-------------------------------------------------
   


Excerpt from Windows Multimedia Reference:  


midiInOpen: Opens a MIDI input device for  

            recording.  


midiInClose: Closes a specified MIDI input  

             device.  


midiInStart: Starts input on a MIDI input  
device.  


midiInStop: Stops input on a MIDI input device.  


midiInReset: Stops input on a MIDI input device. 
 


             Marks all pending data buffers as  

             being done.  


midiInAddBuffer:  

Sends an input buffer for system exclusive   
messages to a specified MIDI input device. The   
buffer is sent back to the application when it   
is filled with system exclusive data.  


midiInPrepareHeader:  

Informs a MIDI input device that the given data  
 buffer should be prepared for recording.  


midiInUnprepareHeader:  

Informs a MIDI input device that the preparation 
  performed on the given data buffer can be   
cleaned up.  

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List Member "Andras Szalay" <a.szalay@mail.matav.hu> wrote:
Roland Walter asked:

>> Do You have the "Windows 3.1 Multimedia    Reference" from Microsoft?
Yes I have, but I do not think that it contains alone enough information.
During the last days I found a relatively simple example program for MIDI IN
written in C, and John tries to convert it to GFA. In fact he converted it
already, but it does not run yet, he is working on it.

Roland, you cite from my letter where I was seraching for the problem in:
>> er& = @@midiInOpen(*hmi&,MIDIMAPPER&,NULL,NULL,0)
Just one hour after this letter I sent:
>>Sorry for the previous letter, I found out the answer in between.
>>midiInOpen must not get -1 as a second parameter, it should be 0.

Did you accidentally miss this, or can it be that you do not get all 
messages from the GFA forum?

		Andras

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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@msn.com> wrote:
Hi Tom,
Thanks for the info. I will grab it today if possible.
Dale

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> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Dale
> There is an MS SDK file for everything under the sun!  Which one to you
> want?  The Win3.1 SDK helpfile is on http:/TiGeR1.webjump.com/
> It's pretty large & covers virtually everything in Win3.1.
>
> Others you may have to search the net & MS for.
> <G>
> TomR.
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List Member "Andras Szalay" <a.szalay@mail.matav.hu> wrote:
John Findlay wrote:

>> Unfortunately I can't get midiInPrepareHeader() to work. Any ideas?
I tried everything that I could think about, but it returns always error code
5. I had some more ideas if I could compile the C version, but I cannot.
Since your conversion is line-to-line identical with the original C version,
probably it would make sense to trace the size and also the contents
of the MIDIHDR structure in C, before calling midiInPrepareHeader(). 
This seems to be the key of the failure (or not?). 
SInce I am not familiar with Visual C++ I do not know why the linker 
refused to recognize all midi* functions. 
The only thing what I can still do is that I send you two pages of 
the API Bible which describes MIDIHDR, probably this gives 
you some new information. I send them as scanned *.GIF
images.

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List Member John Findlay <Jayef@compuserve.com> wrote:
Andras,

> This seems to be the key of the failure (or not?). <

A logical conclusion, however I discount nothing. :) For 16 bit apps it m=
ay
be necessary to use a dll because of the fixed code segment requirement f=
or
time critical MIDI work. =


>The only thing what I can still do is that I send you two pages of the A=
PI
Bible which describes MIDIHDR, probably this gives you some new
information. I send them as scanned *.GIF images.<

Thanks but I have much documentation. There appears to be different
definitions of the MIDIHDR structure, I have tried them all. =


=46rom the mmsystem.h file;

typedef struct midihdr_tag {
    LPSTR       lpData;               /* pointer to locked data block */
    DWORD       dwBufferLength;       /* length of data in data block */
    DWORD       dwBytesRecorded;      /* used for input only */
    DWORD       dwUser;               /* for client's use */
    DWORD       dwFlags;              /* assorted flags (see defines) */
    struct midihdr_tag FAR *lpNext;   /* reserved for driver */
    DWORD       reserved;             /* reserved for driver */
#if (WINVER >=3D 0x0400)
    DWORD       dwOffset;             /* Callback offset into buffer */
    DWORD       dwReserved[8];        /* Reserved for MMSYSTEM */
#endif
} MIDIHDR, *PMIDIHDR, NEAR *NPMIDIHDR, FAR *LPMIDIHDR;


=46rom  Win32 SDK;

typedef struct { =

    LPSTR  lpData;                    // address of MIDI data =

    DWORD  dwBufferLength;            // size of the buffer =

    DWORD  dwBytesRecorded;           // see below =

    DWORD  dwUser;                    // custom user data =

    DWORD  dwFlags;                   // see below =

    struct midihdr_tag far * lpNext;  // reserved; do not use =

    DWORD  reserved;                  // reserved; do not use =

    DWORD  dwOffset;                  // see below =

    DWORD  dwReserved[4];             // reserved; do not use =

} MIDIHDR; =


Also concerning the use of midiInPrepareHeader();

>>
Before using this function, you must set the lpData, dwBufferLength, and
dwFlags members of the MIDIHDR structure. The dwFlags member must be set =
to
zero.
<<

This is taken care of in the listing.



I am using this structure; =


  TYPE MIDIHDR:
  - LONG   lpData                  // address of MIDI data
  - DWORD  dwBufferLength          // size of the buffer
  - DWORD  dwBytesRecorded
  - DWORD  dwUser                  // custom user data
  - DWORD  dwFlags
  - LONG   lpNext                  // reserved; do not use
  - DWORD  reserved                // reserved; do not use
  - DWORD  dwOffset
  - DWORD  dwReserved1             // reserved; do not use
  - DWORD  dwReserved2             // reserved; do not use
  - DWORD  dwReserved3             // reserved; do not use
  - DWORD  dwReserved4             // reserved; do not use
  - DWORD  dwReserved5             // reserved; do not use
  - DWORD  dwReserved6             // reserved; do not use
  - DWORD  dwReserved7             // reserved; do not use
  - DWORD  dwReserved8             // reserved; do not use
  ENDTYPE
  MIDIHDR: mh.

John
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List Member Mac <Our.Mac@iname.com> wrote:
Well, not to change the subject... but in the lull you may wish to
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> Hi,
> I have also asked the guys of GFA about DISABLED and they answer this: 
> ------------------------------
> Just use 
> 
> ENABLEW Dlg(3) 
> 
> or 
> 
> DISABLEW Dlg(3) 
> 
> 
> Yours 
> 
> +++ GFA Online 
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> --------------------------------------
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Hi Guys & Gals,

Would anyone know of a Comm's Library available for GFAW?

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List Member HiTekCntry@aol.com wrote:
Oops, sorry for the blank letter, (an IM habit got me).  

	Have monitored your newsletter for a couple of weeks, and now know I 
know nothing of what you guys are talking about.  I am wondering if there is 
anyone who would like to take the time to explain how to get restarted in 
GFA.  
	I suppose most of what you are discussing has to do with programming 
for the Window Environment.  Is it possible just to port an old Atari ST 
program to IBM format and make it work?  Do I have to install it so it works 
under windows or can I just make it menu driven.  If so what would I need to 
do, and how much will it cost.  I have no programming language for this 
system.  Would there be any advantage or disadvantage going to Visual Basic?  
I have one section that is a mass of nested loops that calls itself from 
inside itself.  I would prefer not to have to go into that again as it took 
nearly a month to create.  That's why I thought it would be easier to stay 
with GFA Basic. 
	Also, is it possible to read 80 track 9 sector disks on IBM systems?  
I have tried formatting them on here and on Atari and can not get one to read 
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List Member "B.M.C.S." <bmcs@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
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Hi Reuben,

There is a very good Comms Library called CrystalCOMM produced by Dr. Robert
Hansen of Crystal Software Inc. Crystal Falls, Michigan. It is supplied as a
DLL and the functions can be called from GFA in the same way as any other
DLL. The library is a bit pricey but it contains just about any Comms
function you could ever want to use.

You can get more info from:

http://www.hallogram.com/crstlcom/index.html

Hope this helps.

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Dave Barton
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Would anyone know of a Comm's Library available for GFAW?

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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@msn.com> wrote:
Hi John,
Yes, I think ,most of those who program in GFA on the PC were GFA Atari
programmers. To port a GFA Atari to GFA DOS is fairly easy.  The DOS version
is fairly compatible with the Atari version.  It takes somewhat more effort
to port to a Windows environment.
As I am sure you know Visual Basic is quite a bit slower than GFA. GFA, both
Windows and DOS versions,  have compilers available that will compile your
code to a stand-alone .EXE file. Visual Basic, from my understanding,
requires huge distribution packages.
GFA for Windows will also make .DLLs that may be called from your program
and from other Window programming languages.
I am not sure of the answer to your disk formatting question but will try
and find out for you.  I will send you the information on GFA in a separate
message.
Just out of curiosity, what is your last name?
Dale Bryant

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> List Member HiTekCntry@aol.com wrote:
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>
> Have monitored your newsletter for a couple of weeks, and now know I
> know nothing of what you guys are talking about.  I am wondering if there
is
> anyone who would like to take the time to explain how to get restarted in
> GFA.
> I suppose most of what you are discussing has to do with programming
> for the Window Environment.  Is it possible just to port an old Atari ST
> program to IBM format and make it work?  Do I have to install it so it
works
> under windows or can I just make it menu driven.  If so what would I need
to
> do, and how much will it cost.  I have no programming language for this
> system.  Would there be any advantage or disadvantage going to Visual
Basic?
> I have one section that is a mass of nested loops that calls itself from
> inside itself.  I would prefer not to have to go into that again as it
took
> nearly a month to create.  That's why I thought it would be easier to stay
> with GFA Basic.
> Also, is it possible to read 80 track 9 sector disks on IBM systems?
> I have tried formatting them on here and on Atari and can not get one to
read
> the other.
> Thank you in advance for your help.
> From
> the once guru who has lost to progress,
> John
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@msn.com> wrote:
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Also, is it possible to read 80 track 9 sector disks on IBM systems?
I have tried formatting them on here and on Atari and can not get one to
read
the other.
Thank you in advance for your help.
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
I've been doing pretty well sorting small quantities.  Now, however,
it has gone out of hand.

I need to sort 125,000 items with an offset of 7 chars.

The first 6 char are a number (presently in numerical order).  The
7th char is a space.  Following all of this is simple text.

I know that there has to be a practical method, but I am not familiar
with handling arrays, etc., larger than 32,000 or so.  I want to sort
the text alphabetically to make searching it faster.

Ideas?  Suggestions?  All are appreciated.
<G>
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List Member John Findlay <Jayef@compuserve.com> wrote:

John

> I am wondering if there is anyone who would like to take the time to
explain how to get restarted in GFA. <

You can ask questions! These are many examples to learn from on the vario=
us
web sites as well. I gather from your post that you don't have GFA for
Windows, that would be the first place to start, I think.

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List Member Christof.Schardt@t-online.de (Christof Schardt) wrote:

1st: Use pointers (indices) to handle the list (sort and
search)
     i.e.  list$(pt%(i%)) rather than list$(i%)

2nd: Sorting by Quicksort e.g.

3rd: Search by interval-bisection. (you kow?
     Improve speed by pre-searching the sections, where
     the letters start:  pt_start(asc_a)=i_xy%  e.g.

Bye
Christof


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Datum: Donnerstag, 17. Juni 1999 09:50
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>List Member Tom Record
<tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>I've been doing pretty well sorting small quantities.  Now,
however,
>it has gone out of hand.
>
>I need to sort 125,000 items with an offset of 7 chars.
>
>The first 6 char are a number (presently in numerical
order).  The
>7th char is a space.  Following all of this is simple text.
>
>I know that there has to be a practical method, but I am
not familiar
>with handling arrays, etc., larger than 32,000 or so.  I
want to sort
>the text alphabetically to make searching it faster.
>
>Ideas?  Suggestions?  All are appreciated.
><G>
>TomR.
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Thank you, Christof
Would have taken a long time for this to enter my thinking.  I'll
give this a try.  Thanks.
<G>
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At 01:03 PM 17/06/99 +0200, you wrote:
>List Member Christof.Schardt@t-online.de (Christof Schardt) wrote:
>
>1st: Use pointers (indices) to handle the list (sort and
>search)
>     i.e.  list$(pt%(i%)) rather than list$(i%)
>
>2nd: Sorting by Quicksort e.g.
>
>3rd: Search by interval-bisection. (you kow?
>     Improve speed by pre-searching the sections, where
>     the letters start:  pt_start(asc_a)=3Di_xy%  e.g.
>
>Bye
>Christof
>
>
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>
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>>List Member Tom Record
><tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>>I've been doing pretty well sorting small quantities.  Now,
>however,
>>it has gone out of hand.
>>
>>I need to sort 125,000 items with an offset of 7 chars.
>>
>>The first 6 char are a number (presently in numerical
>order).  The
>>7th char is a space.  Following all of this is simple text.
>>
>>I know that there has to be a practical method, but I am
>not familiar
>>with handling arrays, etc., larger than 32,000 or so.  I
>want to sort
>>the text alphabetically to make searching it faster.
>>
>>Ideas?  Suggestions?  All are appreciated.
>><G>
>>TomR.
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List Member Michael Weigand <michael-weigand@foni.net> wrote:
Hi!

I want to get the date of a specific file. So I used some code from the
dirlist.gfw code sample. When I ask for the date of a file that was created
today I get 17131999 instead of 17061999. I checked all samples that
display the date of a file (such as explore.gfw) and there are numerous of
wrong dates!

Is this part of the Y2K problem?

Here is the code I use:

FUNCTION FileDate$
  LOCAL dtasave$
  LOCAL dta% = FGETDTA()
  LOCAL e&,f$,main$,i&,t&,ti$,m$
  '
  mask$ = "Startup.exe" + CHR$(0)
  dtasave$ = PEEK$(dta%,44)               //for DOS & Windows
  e& = FSFIRST(mask$,$17)
  '
  d& = DPEEK(dta% + 24)                         //Datum
  da$ = DEC$(d& & 31,2)                       //Tag
  //da$ = da$ + "."
  da$ = da$ + DEC$(SHR&(d&,4) & 15,2)           //Monat
  //da$ = da$ + "."
  da$ = da$ + DEC$(1980 + (SHR&(d&,9) & 127))   //Jahr
  RETURN da$ 
ENDFUNC


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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
M!chael
Interesting question (& reason for it).
You are running 95?  Perhaps 3.1 has this, I don't know.
Check your Win setup... you evidently have it set to update the
file dates every time files are accessed.  Most believe this date
is the date of creation, but it isn't.  It is the date of last 
access.  Most accept the attrib "a" (archive) as being a file's
primary descriptor.  It isn't.  Oddly enough, it's actually the
flag that indicates a file has been updated.  When a file is first
created, it is written without this flag set unless the programmer
that wrote the program wanted the "a" there from the beginning. MS
says this flag will automatically be set if the file is updated.

Y2K deals with problems generated by a 2-digit year instead of a 
4-digit.  BIOS may/may not interpret the proper year.
<G>
TomR.


At 06:52 PM 17/06/99 +0200, you wrote:
>List Member Michael Weigand <michael-weigand@foni.net> wrote:
>Hi!
>
>I want to get the date of a specific file. So I used some code from the
>dirlist.gfw code sample. When I ask for the date of a file that was created
>today I get 17131999 instead of 17061999. I checked all samples that
>display the date of a file (such as explore.gfw) and there are numerous of
>wrong dates!
>
>Is this part of the Y2K problem?
>
>Here is the code I use:
>
>FUNCTION FileDate$
>  LOCAL dtasave$
>  LOCAL dta% = FGETDTA()
>  LOCAL e&,f$,main$,i&,t&,ti$,m$
>  '
>  mask$ = "Startup.exe" + CHR$(0)
>  dtasave$ = PEEK$(dta%,44)               //for DOS & Windows
>  e& = FSFIRST(mask$,$17)
>  '
>  d& = DPEEK(dta% + 24)                         //Datum
>  da$ = DEC$(d& & 31,2)                       //Tag
>  //da$ = da$ + "."
>  da$ = da$ + DEC$(SHR&(d&,4) & 15,2)           //Monat
>  //da$ = da$ + "."
>  da$ = da$ + DEC$(1980 + (SHR&(d&,9) & 127))   //Jahr
>  RETURN da$ 
>ENDFUNC
>
>
>M!chael
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List Member Michael Weigand <michael-weigand@foni.net> wrote:
>List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

>Interesting question (& reason for it).
>You are running 95?  Perhaps 3.1 has this, I don't know.

Win 98. And my ASUS T2P4 mainboard is Y2K compliant.

>Most believe this date
>is the date of creation, but it isn't.  It is the date of last 
>access.

I created the file today. And Windows shows 3 dates and they are all correct.
 

M!chael

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List Member Reuben <softprod@hartingdale.com.au> wrote:
Now here is a perplexing subject, I have been involved lately with two
commercial systems bringing them up to Y2K compliance. One I'm totally
rewriting right at the moment.

Q. Have any of you guys given serious thought to how your current
programs will react once we hit 01/01/2000? Better get cracking...

I modified one of my commercial systems consisting of many programs and
converted databases to handle 4 character years only to find that many
of my Date Functions dropped the ball when it came to 4 character years.
I actually thought all my date functions would be OK. It was a bit of a
panic when most of my customers reports for production scheduling etc.
stopped working correctly!

Y2K... Give it serious thought B4 it's too late!!!!

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Hey, Mate!
<GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG>
1) make all dates within the appls 4-digit.
2) set the computer's time/date to just a few minutes before
midnight, 31 Dec 1999.  Watch it to see if it makes the grade
or bombs.  It *SHOULD* switch the date to 1 Jan 2000 when it
crosses midnight.  If it does, the computer is complient.  If
it takes the date to the carnival, the owner has problems &
needs a BIOS overlay to correct it.  However... it it's on a
really old computer.... awwww, JEEZE!  That requires changing
out the BIOS chips with something new & compatable with the
rest of the system because it can't be overlayed properly since
nobody is making those replacements complient today.  Finding
replacements might be pretty hard!
<G>
TomR.



At 06:43 AM 18/06/99 +1000, you wrote:
>List Member Reuben <softprod@hartingdale.com.au> wrote:
>Now here is a perplexing subject, I have been involved lately with two
>commercial systems bringing them up to Y2K compliance. One I'm totally
>rewriting right at the moment.
>
>Q. Have any of you guys given serious thought to how your current
>programs will react once we hit 01/01/2000? Better get cracking...
>
>I modified one of my commercial systems consisting of many programs and
>converted databases to handle 4 character years only to find that many
>of my Date Functions dropped the ball when it came to 4 character years.
>I actually thought all my date functions would be OK. It was a bit of a
>panic when most of my customers reports for production scheduling etc.
>stopped working correctly!
>
>Y2K... Give it serious thought B4 it's too late!!!!
>
>Reuben Carlsen
>RMC
>Sydney Oz'
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>
>         Add a little to a little and soon the little will become great.
>
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
M!chael
Ok - cross off Y2K in your list of possibles.  You're set.

Now... you created the file today, but get 3 different dates,
*all correct*?  Teach me something!

When created, a file receives the date it was created.  Period.
If you are set to reset the date each time the file is accessed,
you will change the date every time you CLOSE the file.  If you
are set to "when modified", the date will change ONLY WHEN you 
modify the file in some manner (such as editing & resaving).

Sounds to me that you are as confused as I am now.  Check the
time-slot... if they're all different, you're definitely set to
"ACCESS".  I'm baffled by 3 dates that are "right"... please
expand on this a bit.  If they're different & you created it
today, something is awfully fishy out in the desert!  I really
don't see you getting different dates all in the same day!  Oh,
hell - one more thing!  How do you have your system date set?

I use dd MMM yyyy (have, for about 40 yrs).  You have 4 or 5
choices here & perhaps an appl might force yet another.  Since
so many possibilities exist for *this* situation, where a file
originated will set the pattern for it's date stamp!  It's
usually 2, 2, 2/4... dd/mm/yy or yyyy, mm/dd/yy or yyyy.  BUT...
toss in something written in Japan & it becomes yy or yyyy/dd/mm.
Then again... sub "." for "/" thruout Europe & Japan.

This "date" can has a lot of worms in it & they're NOT all alike!
<G>
TomR.



At 08:20 PM 17/06/99 +0200, you wrote:
>List Member Michael Weigand <michael-weigand@foni.net> wrote:
>>List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>
>>Interesting question (& reason for it).
>>You are running 95?  Perhaps 3.1 has this, I don't know.
>
>Win 98. And my ASUS T2P4 mainboard is Y2K compliant.
>
>>Most believe this date
>>is the date of creation, but it isn't.  It is the date of last 
>>access.
>
>I created the file today. And Windows shows 3 dates and they are all correct.
> 
>
>M!chael
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List Member Barlik@aol.com wrote:
Should not be a problem as long as year is called using four digits.
1999 not 99
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List Member Dean Hodgson <dhodgson@nexus.edu.au> wrote:
Tom Record wrote:

> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> I've been doing pretty well sorting small quantities.  Now, however,
> it has gone out of hand.
>
> I need to sort 125,000 items with an offset of 7 chars.
>
> The first 6 char are a number (presently in numerical order).  The
> 7th char is a space.  Following all of this is simple text.
>
> I know that there has to be a practical method, but I am not familiar
> with handling arrays, etc., larger than 32,000 or so.  I want to sort
> the text alphabetically to make searching it faster.
>
> Ideas?  Suggestions?  All are appreciated.
> <G>
> TomR.
>

Tom, this is not an elegant solution but it will work on a one-D array.

'nelements% is the number of elements in your array
't$() is a temporary array. because it is a VAR, it'll affect your regular one

PROCEDURE sortlist(nelements%,VAR t$())
  LOCAL i%,j%,gap%,swtich%,k%,sa$,sb$
  IF nelements%<=1 THEN EXPROC
  gap%=nelements%
  IF nelements%<=1 THEN EXPROC            //don't sort
  REPEAT
    gap%=gap%/1.3
    IF gap%<1 THEN gap%=1
    switch%=0
    k%=nelements%-gap%
    FOR i%=1 TO k%
      j%=i%+gap%
     sa$=UCASE$(MID$(t$(i%),8))            //get the part of your string you
want to sort by; ucase$ to make case independent
     sb$=UCASE$(MID$(t$(j%),8))
      IF t$(i%)>t$(i%)
        SWAP t$(i%),t$(i%)
      ENDIF
    NEXT i%
  UNTIL switch%=0 AND gap%=1
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List Member Peter Eckhart <select720@hotmail.com> wrote:
I'd be obliged if someone can help with the following two
problems I have.

1. With DLG 3D ON my CHECKBOX control with BS_LEFTTEXT gives me no
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2. I've come back to GFA after about 3 years away. Meanwhile I
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Dean
Untellable  gratitude, Sir!  I've been butting my head against the stone wall
for such a time now that I can't think straight!  1 + 1 can be anything you
might want it to be right now.  I'm on a short-term med that seems to control
a lot more than what it was intended to.  I just awoke to find my 86 yr old
dad standing up on the foot of my bed, yelling.  He's asleep, 2 rooms away,
NOT standing up in the bed!  I hope this wears off pretty quick, but there 
is another 4 days' worth of it to take.  The "cure" is sometimes far worse 
than the ailment.

Thank you for the routine - I'll give it a try a little later _IF_ I can
get my head to settle down.  Will let you know of my results.

Thank you, again.
<G>
TomR.



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>Tom, this is not an elegant solution but it will work on a one-D array.
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List Member Michael Weigand <michael-weigand@foni.net> wrote:
>List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>M!chael
>Ok - cross off Y2K in your list of possibles.  You're set.
>
>Now... you created the file today, but get 3 different dates,
>*all correct*?  Teach me something!

Windows displays dates for date of creation, last changed and last accessed.


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List Member Michael Weigand <michael-weigand@foni.net> wrote:
Hi!

Maybe tthe problem isn't either the hardware nor windows, but this piece of
code that converts the internal format to decimal format.

>  d& = DPEEK(dta% + 24)                         //Datum
>  da$ = DEC$(d& & 31,2)                         //Tag
>  da$ = da$ + DEC$(SHR&(d&,4) & 15,2)           //Monat
>  da$ = da$ + DEC$(1980 + (SHR&(d&,9) & 127))   //Jahr

I confess that I haven't got a clue what the code actually does...


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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Win98, maybe <G>.
Win95, I think not.
Win3.2, I *know* not.

>From the helpfile...
OPENW #1
TYPE dta:
-CHAR *21	fs_donttouch$
-BYTE		fs_attr
-CARD		fs_time
-CARD		fs_date
-LONG		fs_size
-CHAR *14	fs_name$
ENDTYPE
//
dta%=FGETDTA()	//stores the address of //	DTA in a%
//
e%=FSFIRST("*.*",%10001)
WHILE e%=>0
  	a$=SPACE$(60)
  	MID$(a$,2)={dta%}.fs_name$
  	q$=" "
  	IF BTST({dta%}.fs_attr,4)
 		RSET q$="<DIR>"
  	ELSE
 		RSET q$=STR$({dta%}.fs_size)
  	ENDIF
  	MID$(a$,16)=q$
  	a%={dta%}.fs_date
  	q$=DEC$(a% & 31,2)+"."

  	q$=q$+DEC$((a% >> 5) & 15,2)+"."
  	q$=q$+DEC$((a% >> 9) + 1980,4)
  	MID$(a$,30)=q$
  	a%={dta%}.fs_time
  	q$=DEC$(a% >> 11,2)+"."+DEC$((a% >> 5) & 63,2)
  	q$=q$+DEC$((a% & 31)*2,2)
  	MID$(a$,42)=q$
  	PRINT a$
  	e%=FSNEXT()
	KEYGET a%
WEND
CLOSEW #1



>From one of my apps...
PROCEDURE listdir(mask$,flag&)
  LOCAL dtasave$
  LOCAL dta% = FGETDTA()
  LOCAL e&,f$,a|,main$,i&
  LOCAL d&,da$,t&,ti$,out$,m$
  main$ = mask$
  i& = RINSTR(main$,"\")
  IF i& = 0 THEN i& = RINSTR(main$,":")
  IF i&
    main$ = LEFT$(main$,i&)
  ELSE
    main$ = ""
  ENDIF
  dtasave$ = PEEK$(dta%,44)               //for DOS & Windows
  e& = FSFIRST(mask$,$17) //all files
  m$ = main$
  i& = INSTR(m$,"\")
  WHILE e& = 0
    ~LEN(INKEY$)
    f$ = CHAR{dta% + 30}               //name
    IF LEFT$(f$,1) = "." THEN GOTO SkipMe
    a| = PEEK(dta% + 21)            //attribut
    len% = LPEEK(dta% + 26)
    out$ = ""
    out$ = out$ + m$        //remove for name alone
    out$ = out$ + f$ + " "
    out$ = out$ + " "  //   + STRING$(79 - LEN(out$),".") + " "  //  89
    IF a| & 32
      out$ = out$ + "A"
      atrib1& = atrib1& + 1
    ELSE
      out$ = out$ + "-"
    ENDIF
    IF a| & 16
      out$ = out$ + "D"
      atrib2& = atrib2& + 1
    ELSE
      out$ = out$ + "-"
    ENDIF
    IF a| & 4
      out$ = out$ + "S"
      atrib3& = atrib3& + 1
    ELSE
      out$ = out$ + "-"
    ENDIF
    IF a| & 2
      out$ = out$ + "H"
      atrib4& = atrib4& + 1
    ELSE
      out$ = out$ + "-"
    ENDIF
    IF a| & 1
      out$ = out$ + "R"
      atrib5& = atrib5& + 1
    ELSE
      out$ = out$ + "-"
    ENDIF
    PRINT #1, out$
    out$ = " "
    '    out$ = out$ + SPACE$(flag&) + " "
    d& = DPEEK(dta% + 24)                         //Datum  --  date
    da$ = DEC$(d& & 31,2)                       //Tag  -  day
    da$ = da$ + "/"
    da$ = da$ + DEC$(SHR&(d&,4) & 15,2)           //Monat  -  month
    da$ = da$ + "/"
    da$ = da$ + DEC$(1980 + (SHR&(d&,9) & 127))   //Jahr  --  year
    '    out$ = LEFT$(out$ + SPACE$(90),90)
    out$ = out$ + da$ + " "
    t& = DPEEK(dta% + 22)                         //Zeit  -  time - 22
    ti$ = DEC$(SHR&(t&,11) & 31,2)               //Stunde  -  hour   11-31,2
    ti$ = ti$ + ":"
    ti$ = ti$ + DEC$(SHR&(t&,5) & 63,2)           //Minute  --  minute
    ti$ = ti$ + ":"
    ti$ = ti$ + DEC$((t& & 31) * 2,2)               //Sekunde  -  second
    out$ = out$ + ti$ + "    "
    IF ~a| & 16
      out$ = out$ + STR$(len%,8)  //  8
    ELSE
      out$ = out$ + "   <DIR>"
    ENDIF
    PRINT #1, out$
    out$ = ""
    PRINT #1, out$
    IF a| & $10 && flag& && ASC(f$) != 46
      @listdir(main$ + f$ + "\*.*",flag& + 1)
    ENDIF
    SkipMe:
    e& = FSNEXT()
  WEND
  POKE$ dta%,dtasave$                   //For Dos & Windows
RETURN


Either one will get you only ONE date.
<G>
TomR.


At 03:43 PM 18/06/99 +0200, you wrote:
>List Member Michael Weigand <michael-weigand@foni.net> wrote:
>>List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>>M!chael
>>Ok - cross off Y2K in your list of possibles.  You're set.
>>
>>Now... you created the file today, but get 3 different dates,
>>*all correct*?  Teach me something!
>
>Windows displays dates for date of creation, last changed and last accessed.
>
>
>M!chael
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
At 03:54 PM 18/06/99 +0200, you wrote:
>List Member Michael Weigand <michael-weigand@foni.net> wrote:
>Hi!
>
>Maybe tthe problem isn't either the hardware nor windows, but this piece of
>code that converts the internal format to decimal format.
>
>>  d& = DPEEK(dta% + 24)                         //Datum
>>  da$ = DEC$(d& & 31,2)                         //Tag
>>  da$ = da$ + DEC$(SHR&(d&,4) & 15,2)           //Monat
>>  da$ = da$ + DEC$(1980 + (SHR&(d&,9) & 127))   //Jahr
>
>I confess that I haven't got a clue what the code actually does...
>
>
>M!chael
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M!chael
See if you can work it out w/ this...

/* datetime.lst  TomR.
OPENW #31,0,0,_X,_Y,48
SETTIMER 31,1,1000  /*  [necessary for time/date]
TITLEW #31,@tim$() + " " + @get_date$()
PRINT SPACE$(50);"<Esc> or <Enter> or <Alt>+<F4> closes me"

DO
  t$ = INKEY$
  EXIT IF ASC(t$) = 27    /* terminates when  ESC is pressed
  EXIT IF ASC(t$) = 13    /* terminates when  ENTER is pressed
  SLEEP
  SELECT MENU(11) /* look for messages  [necessary for time/date]
  CASE WM_TIMER /* timer message  [necessary for time/date]
    PRINT AT(4,4); @tim$() + " " + @get_date$() /*  [necessary for time/date]
  ENDSELECT
UNTIL MENU(1) = 4

KILLTIMER 31,1  /*  [necessary for time/date]
CLOSEW #31
END


/*  [necessary for time/date]
FUNCTION get_date$()
  LOCAL temp$,ctr%,i%
  LOCAL mon$="JanFebMarAprMayJunJulAugSepOctNovDec"
  LOCAL day$="SunMonTueWedThuFriSat"
  ~INTR($21,_AH = $2A)
  temp$ = MID$(day$,3 * _AL + 1,3) + ", " + STR$(_DL) + " " + MID$(mon$,3 *
_DH - 2,3)
  temp$ = temp$ + " " + STR$(_CX)
  RETURN temp$
ENDFUNC


FUNCTION tim$()
  tm$ = TIME$
  IF VAL(LEFT$(tm$,2)) =< 12 THEN
    tm$ = tm$ + " a.m."
  ENDIF
  IF VAL(LEFT$(tm$,2)) > 12 THEN
    tm1& = VAL(LEFT$(tm$,2)) - 12
    tm1$ = STR$(tm1&),tm2$ = RIGHT$(tm$,6)
    tm$ = tm1$ + tm2$ + " p.m."
  ENDIF
  RETURN tm$
ENDFUNC



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List Member Michael Weigand <michael-weigand@foni.net> wrote:
At 15:34 18.06.99 +0000, you wrote:

>Either one will get you only ONE date.

The first code sample shows the date correct while the second displays
wrong numbers for the month.

Wrong: (used in many sample source files I found)
da$ = da$ + DEC$(SHR&(d&,4) & 15,2)           //Monat

Correct: (the way your first example does it)
da$ = da$ + DEC$((d& >> 5) & 15,2)


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List Member "Eberhard Funck" <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de> wrote:
Hallo Michael, 


>List Member Michael Weigand <michael-weigand@foni.net> wrote:
>At 15:34 18.06.99 +0000, you wrote:
>
>>Either one will get you only ONE date.
>
>The first code sample shows the date correct while the second displays
>wrong numbers for the month.
>
>Wrong: (used in many sample source files I found)
>da$ = da$ + DEC$(SHR&(d&,4) & 15,2)           //Monat


EF: That's also correct, if you change 4 to 5.
 
>
>Correct: (the way your first example does it)
>da$ = da$ + DEC$((d& >> 5) & 15,2)
>


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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Back up & look again at those... I don't use mdy sequence for
*any* date.  I use dmy, always.  Have always used ddMMMyyyy.

Something else to consider... NO file has more than one date
visible in FileMgr _or_ MyComputer.  In fact, only one type,
all executables but DOS are supposed to (theoretically, at 
least), bear a date of sorts in the versinfo section, inter-
nally.  GFA-W, VB, etc., don't even include versinfo during
the compile.  I tried to work out how to do it, but getting
it to show up properly seems out of the question.  I wore
one *.exe plum out, trying.

If a file is laid down on 10,10,1999, then modified 2wice on
10,10,1999, it has only one date... 10,10,1999.  If it's
accessed 320 times (& so stamped), on 10,10,1999, it will
show (& have) only one datestamp... 10,10,1999.  The only
thing that the computer would arbitrarily alter each time
would be the TIMESTAMP because *that* would be different each
time the file was closed.

If the file originated elsewhere, the datestamp might differ 
from one done on your computer the very same date.  Some of
the differdnces are predictable: Europe... 01.21.1999; U.S....
01,21,1999 or 01/21/1999; Japan... 1999.01.21.  Then, of
course, there are the other selectables: May 01, 1999 &/or
1 May 1999 (in the U.S., at least)  When I took up the computer,
there was no question of date format for me... what is this
date: 11,09,1999?  Eleven September?  or is it nine November?
<G>
TomR.



At 07:28 PM 18/06/99 +0200, you wrote:
>List Member Michael Weigand <michael-weigand@foni.net> wrote:
>At 15:34 18.06.99 +0000, you wrote:
>
>>Either one will get you only ONE date.
>
>The first code sample shows the date correct while the second displays
>wrong numbers for the month.
>
>Wrong: (used in many sample source files I found)
>da$ = da$ + DEC$(SHR&(d&,4) & 15,2)           //Monat
>
>Correct: (the way your first example does it)
>da$ = da$ + DEC$((d& >> 5) & 15,2)
>
>
>M!chael
>---
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@msn.com> wrote:
gfa is king! (i hope that get me off the hook)

> God Please Bless My Computer
> 
> 
> 
> Every night I lie in bed
> This little prayer inside my head
> 
> God bless my mom and dad
> and bless my children
> and take care of my spouse
> who brings me so much joy...
> 
> God, there's just one more thing
> I wish that you would do
> if you don't mind my asking
> to bless my 'puter, too??
> 
> Now I know that it's not normal
> to bless a small machine
> but listen just a second
> and I'll try to explain...
> 
> You see, that little metal box
> holds more than odds and ends
> Inside those small components
> rest a hundred loving friends.
> 
> Some it's true I've never seen
> and most I've never met...
> never shaken hands or
> ever truly hugged, and yet...
> 
> I know for sure they love me
> by the kindness they give,
> and this little scrap of metal
> is how I get to where they live.
> 
> By faith is how I know them,
> Much the same as I know You.
> I share in life it brings them,
> So if it's OK with you...
> 
> Just take an extra minute
> from your duties up above...
> to bless this little hunk of steel
> that's filled with so much love.
> 
> So God, Please Bless My 'Puter...
> 
> 

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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@msn.com> wrote:

=DCber Gfawhelp

Vor die GFAWHELP-Window-Hilfe Datei wurde einigen Jahren als
programmierenhilfe f=FCr mich begonnen. Sie ist betr=E4chtlich =FCber den=
 Jahren
gewachsen, die ebensoviele GFA-Programmierer Programme zur Datei beigetra=
gen
haben. **time-out** neu ein neu Window Meldung Kapitel haben sein hinzuf=FC=
gen
und auch Hundert von Beispiel auf benennen d Window API Funktion von GFA
Basic.GFAWHELP haben immer sein Freeware und ich beabsichtigen zu halten =
es
Freeware. Meiner Meinung nach ist nichts, frustrierend, wenn es eine neue
Programmiersprache als der extreme Mangel an Beispielen erlernt.
**time-out** dies sein ein wenig verst=E4ndlich als schreiben ein neu
programming Programmiersprache sein ein sehr schwierig Aufgabe und schrei=
ben
Hundert von Beispiel sein nicht =F6konomisch feasible..Many gro=DF GFA
Programmierer haben beitragen zu d GFAWHELP Datei =FCber d letzt Jahr. We=
nn
Sie sich entscheiden, die Datei bitte zu downloaden, =FCberpr=FCfen Sie a=
us den
GUTSCHRIFTEN binden in der GFAWHELP-Datei, oder die speziellen binden vom
Home Page, das. Wenn Sie eine Datei finden, die Sie n=FCtzlich ist, sende=
n Sie
den Mitwirkenden, den ein email Ihnen danken. Ihr email address wird in d=
er
Downloadbeschreibung gezeigt. GFAWHELP hat funktionelle Links zu allen
gro=DFen grundlegenden Web-Seiten Gfa, die mich bekannt sind. Wenn Sie ei=
n
grundlegender Programmierer Gfa sind, vermissen Sie nicht die Hauptseiten
von Eckhard Renner und von Joe Hurst. Sie liefern viele Quelldateien an
download.See, welches die Links paginieren, um diese Sites zu besuchen.
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Autor Der Programmierung In Gfa Grundlegend F=FCr Windows
HomePage Von Sjouke Hamstra
Ein vom ersten, ein vom besten
Home Page Von Eckhard Renner
Dieses mag # 1, Manfred sein, das, Home Page Ssykor GFA nicht dieses =
vermissen
Grundlegende HauptSeiten Manfred Ssykor Gfa
Joe Hurst, Der Autor Der Bbox-Serie!!
Das Neue Home Page Von Joe Hurst
GFA ist nicht mehr auf CompuSereve. Unter sind die neuen Web-Standorte
Das Haus Von Gfa Grundlegend
Gfa-Grundlagen Home Page
Downloads von GFA.NET
Gro=DFe Ansammlung GFA-BASICLISTEN=20
Das Jonkyard
Die Grundlegende Seite Jonkyard Gfa
MSDOS-Seite Barrie Gfa
Grundlegende MsDos Seite Barrie Gfa
Grundlegende Seite StarTrek Gfa
StarTrek
Grundlegende Seite Roland Walters Gfa=20
**time-out** voll Funktions- Demos von GFA grundlegend f=FCr Windows/DOS =
(Hilfe archivieren auf Deutsch) Lot von GFW/GFA source Quellencode -- =
Roland sein d Autor von HILFSMITTEL MEN=DC welch viel GFA grundlegend =
Programmierer use..New Version 2,2 vorhanden von d Datei paginieren auf =
dies Web Site.=20
Sindauf Deutsch Web-Seiten Rolands=20
Roland Walter

Grundlegende Seite Russell Haywards Gfa
Insoweit ich wei=DF, ist BASIC-Seite Herrn Haywards GFA neu. Helfen Sie =
Stufen f=FCr Anf=E4nger, Bewunderer und Experten. Dateien f=FCr das =
Downloading.=20
Besuchen Sie den Russell Hayward Web-Site=20
Russell Hayward

Seite Bernard Heliord
Links irgendeines GFA und Lots anderer Dateien archiviert f=FCr das =
Downloading.=20
Besuchen Sie sein GFA Web-Site=20
Bernard Heliord


GFA.NET
Web, das Durch Gfa Bewirtet
Gfa-cBasic-Versuch Version
Dieses ist eine v=F6llig Funktionsversion von GFA-CBasic begrenzt nur =
auf 1.000 Zeilen Quellencode.=20
Geben Sie ihm einen Versuch!
Freie ProbeVersion Gfa Von Gfa


Grundlegendes Ftp site Gfa=20
Ftp Gfawhelp=20
Ftp Gfa.Net

Die Grundlegende PostListe Gfa
Notwendigkeit ProgrammierenHilfe? Verbinden Sie Die Gfa-SendenListe.=20
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Unterzeichnen Sie oben heute

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Ein vom ersten, ein vom besten
Home Page Von Eckhard Renner
Dieses mag # 1, Manfred sein, das, Home Page Ssykor GFA nicht dieses =
vermissen
Grundlegende HauptSeiten Manfred Ssykor Gfa
Joe Hurst, Der Autor Der Bbox-Serie!!
Das Neue Home Page Von Joe Hurst
GFA ist nicht mehr auf CompuSereve. Unter sind die neuen Web-Standorte
Das Haus Von Gfa Grundlegend
Gfa-Grundlagen Home Page
Downloads von GFA.NET
Gro=DFe Ansammlung GFA-BASICLISTEN=20
Das Jonkyard
Die Grundlegende Seite Jonkyard Gfa
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Grundlegende Seite StarTrek Gfa
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Programmierer use..New Version 2,2 vorhanden von d Datei paginieren auf =
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Roland Walter

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Russell Hayward

Seite Bernard Heliord
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Dieses ist eine v=F6llig Funktionsversion von GFA-CBasic begrenzt nur =
auf 1.000 Zeilen Quellencode.=20
Geben Sie ihm einen Versuch!
Freie ProbeVersion Gfa Von Gfa


Grundlegendes Ftp site Gfa=20
Ftp Gfawhelp=20
Ftp Gfa.Net

Die Grundlegende PostListe Gfa
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List Member J.Burgmeier@t-online.de (Juergen Burgmeier) wrote:
Hi,
I found a limitation of the GFA command RECALL, which bothers me a lot .
String lines with lengths more than 261 characters are splitting up to two 
(or more?) lines. 
Of course one can replace RECALL by INPUT$(anz,#1) a.s.f.    
Has anybody a more elegant solution ?   ( I'm working on W98/NT)

Regards Juergen

DIM a$(5),b$(11)
FOR i=0 TO 5
  a$(i)=STR$(i) + "_" + STRING$(265,"1")
NEXT i
'
OPEN "o",#1,"test.txt"
STORE #1,a$(),6
CLOSE #1
'
OPEN "i",#1,"test.txt"
RECALL #1,b$(),-1,m
CLOSE #1
'
FULLW #1
FOR i=0 TO m-1
  PRINT b$(i);"=";LEN(b$(i))
NEXT i
'
KEYGET ddd
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List Member "Bev & Lou Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
Morning All:

I don't know about anyone else but everytime someone uses '\\' in a program
line (not on a line alone or followed by a space) the  email program adds
'file:' in front & underlines it & the next word (colour changes to blue);
this can be very confusing; could I suggest that we change to '\*' instead.

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List Member Barlik@aol.com wrote:
I am trying to link a bitmap image into a program when compiling.
The BMP file is 43K.
I changed code to - bitmap&=LOADBMP("name.bmp")
$LNK 
I get an error out of memory

Is there an example of this?

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Not just idle curiosity...

Has anybody successfully put a toolbar in a modal dialog using
ownsub.dll?  I've no window, just the dialog.  I keep getting
"dll parameter error", regardless how I try to get it to make
the toolbar.

Yeah, I can do it manually, but I wanted to sweeten this up a bit.

<G>
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Ha!!
Now we know how to get your goat <GGGGGGGGGGGGGG>!
What kinda MS e-mail s.ware ya usin?  It's the culprit,
I'll betcha.

Betcha it does e-mail as HTML, doesn't it.
<G>
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At 03:41 AM 19/06/99 -0400, you wrote:
>List Member "Bev & Lou Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
>Morning All:
>
>I don't know about anyone else but everytime someone uses '\\' in a program
>line (not on a line alone or followed by a space) the  email program adds
>'file:' in front & underlines it & the next word (colour changes to blue);
>this can be very confusing; could I suggest that we change to '\*' instead.
>
>                                                   ->Bev<--
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List Member "Bev & Lou Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
Ha yourself, old man!!!    <g>

I'm set up for 'plain text'!!!

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> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Ha!!
> Now we know how to get your goat <GGGGGGGGGGGGGG>!
> What kinda MS e-mail s.ware ya usin?  It's the culprit,
> I'll betcha.
>
> Betcha it does e-mail as HTML, doesn't it.
> <G>
> TomR.
>
>
> At 03:41 AM 19/06/99 -0400, you wrote:
> >List Member "Bev & Lou Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
> >Morning All:
> >
> >I don't know about anyone else but everytime someone uses '\\' in a
program
> >line (not on a line alone or followed by a space) the  email program adds
> >'file:' in front & underlines it & the next word (colour changes to
blue);
> >this can be very confusing; could I suggest that we change to '\*'
instead.
> >
> >                                                   ->Bev<--
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List Member "Sjouke Hamstra" <shamstra@dds.nl> wrote:
> I found a limitation of the GFA command RECALL, which bothers me a lot .
> String lines with lengths more than 261 characters are splitting up to two
> (or more?) lines.
> Of course one can replace RECALL by INPUT$(anz,#1) a.s.f.
> Has anybody a more elegant solution ?   ( I'm working on W98/NT)

I remembered struggling with that problem some years ago:  For what it's worth
I located this after a Find on my HD:

FUNCTION  LINE_INPUT$(n&)
  LOCAL a$,i%,loc%=LOC(#n&), ll%=LOF(#n&)

  WHILE NOT EOF(#n&)
    a$ = a$ + INPUT$(IMIN(ll% - LOC(#n&),255),#n&)
    i% = INSTR(a$,CHR$(13))
  UNTIL i%
  SEEK #n&,loc% + i% + 1
  RETURN LEFT$(a$,i% - 1)
ENDFUNC

FUNCTION INPUT$(n&,s$)
  LOCAL buf$,i%, block&, bufsize&=256
  LOCAL loc%=LOC(#n&)

  WHILE !EOF(#n&)
    i% = LEN(buf$)                // End of current buffer
    block& = IMIN(LOF(#n&) - LOC(#n&),bufsize&)
    buf$ = buf$ + INPUT$(block&,#n&)
    i% = INSTR(i%,buf$,s$)
  UNTIL i%
  i% --
  SEEK #n&,loc% + i% + LEN(s$)

  RETURN LEFT$(buf$,i%)

ENDFUNC

The problem is not in RECALL but in the INPUT and LINE INPUT commands. They
limit to 261 chars.

SH


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List Member "Eberhard Funck" <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de> wrote:
Hallo Tom,



>List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>Not just idle curiosity...
>
>Has anybody successfully put a toolbar in a modal dialog using
>ownsub.dll?  I've no window, just the dialog.  I keep getting
>"dll parameter error", regardless how I try to get it to make
>the toolbar.
>
>Yeah, I can do it manually, but I wanted to sweeten this up a bit.


Try this:

'AddtoolB.lst
DLL #1,"OwnSub.dll"
  DECL CARD CreateToolWindow(W,W)
  DECL CARD AddToolButton(W,W,W,L,L)
  DECL CARD AddToolComboBox(W,W,W,W,L,L)
  DECL BOOL AddToolSpace(W)
ENDDLL
'
DIALOG #0,70,5,443,333,"GFA Basic",$10000000
  CONTROL "Text",100,"static",$10000000,0,0,390,30
ENDDIALOG
SHOWDIALOG #0
DLG FILL 0, RGB(192, 192, 192)
Win& = ^CreateToolWindow(DLG(0, 100),1000) /* Insert handle of static
control
~^AddToolSpace(Win&)
~^AddToolButton(Win&,101,TRUE,0,"Cut")
~^AddToolButton(Win&,102,TRUE,1,"Copy")
~^AddToolButton(Win&,103,TRUE,2,"Insert")
~^AddToolSpace(Win&)
~^AddToolButton(Win&,104,TRUE,4,"Repeat")
~^AddToolButton(Win&,105,TRUE,5,"Terminate")
~^AddToolSpace(Win&)
~^AddToolButton(Win&,106,TRUE,6,"New")
~^AddToolButton(Win&,107,TRUE,7,"Open")
~^AddToolButton(Win&,108,TRUE,$4000,"Always In Foreground")
'
DO
  GETEVENT
UNTIL LEN (INKEY$)
CLOSEDIALOG  #0
FREEDLL 1
END

Greetings

Eberhard


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List Member "Eberhard Funck" <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de> wrote:
Hi,

You can not link a bitmap with $LNK compiler function.
Only lib, obj and res you can link.
 Put your image in a resource file and link this file with
$LNK RES [drive] [directory] resource file name
Than you can load this bitmap with API function
bmp& = LoadBitmap (handle of application instance, address of bitmap name)
from this linked resource file.

Eberhard



>List Member Barlik@aol.com wrote:
>I am trying to link a bitmap image into a program when compiling.
>The BMP file is 43K.
>I changed code to - bitmap&=LOADBMP("name.bmp")
>$LNK 
>I get an error out of memory
>
>Is there an example of this?
>
>DB
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
At 01:59 PM 19/06/99 +0200, you wrote:
>List Member "Eberhard Funck" <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de> wrote:
>Hallo Tom,
>
>
>
>>List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>>Not just idle curiosity...
>>

Thank you, Eberhard.  I see my error.  It *always* has to be something
very simple that you think you took care of.

Much obliged!
<G>
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List Member "Eberhard Funck" <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de> wrote:
Hi Tom,

Here a better version of toolbar in a dialog:

'
DLL #1,"OwnSub.dll"
  DECL CARD CreateToolWindow(W,W)
  DECL CARD AddToolButton(W,W,W,L,L)
  DECL BOOL AddToolSpace(W)
ENDDLL
'
DLGBASE PIXEL
STYLE% = DS_MODALFRAME | WS_POPUP | WS_VISIBLE | WS_CAPTION | WS_SYSMENU
DIALOG #1, 100, 100, 288, 240, "Dialog with Toolbar", STYLE%, 8, "MS Sans
Serif"
  '
  DEFPUSHBUTTON "OK", IDOK, 34, 172, 100, 28
  PUSHBUTTON "Cancel", IDCANCEL, 154, 172, 100, 28
  LTEXT "", 100, 30, 10, 220, 28, SS_LEFT
  LISTBOX "", 200, 18, 44, 252, 136, LBS_STANDARD
  '
ENDDIALOG
DLG FILL 1, GetSysColor (COLOR_BTNFACE)
'
' static control is client for toolbar
Win& = ^CreateToolWindow(DLG(1, 100),100)
' or dialog is client for toolbar
' Win& = ^CreateToolWindow(DLG(1),100)
~^AddToolSpace(Win&)
~^AddToolButton(Win&,101,TRUE,0,"Cut")
~^AddToolButton(Win&,102,TRUE,1,"Copy")
~^AddToolButton(Win&,103,TRUE,2,"Insert")
~^AddToolSpace(Win&)
~^AddToolButton(Win&,104,TRUE,4,"Repeat")
~^AddToolButton(Win&,105,TRUE,5,"Terminate")
~^AddToolSpace(Win&)
~^AddToolButton(Win&,106,TRUE,6,"New")
~^AddToolButton(Win&,107,TRUE,7,"Open")
~^AddToolButton(Win&,108,TRUE,$4000,"Always In Foreground")
SHOWDIALOG #1
'
DO
  GETEVENT
  IF MENU(1) = 30
    IF MENU(6) = IDOK || MENU(6) = IDCANCEL
      ende! = TRUE
    ENDIF
  ENDIF
  '
  SELECT MENU(12)
  CASE 101 TO 108
    MESSAGE "Toolbar button " + STR$(MENU(12)), "Message", MB_OK, dummy&
  ENDSELECT
  '
UNTIL ende! = TRUE || MENU(1) = 4
CLOSEDIALOG  #1
FREEDLL 1
END


Eberhard


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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Zippity Do Da!

Thank you, kind Sir... the world will luv ya forever 'n' ever!
That one worked first time.  Well, 2nd time, after I unwrapped
a line I didn't catch at first.

Will now see if I can't pretty up the current project somewhat.

Ashukrin, Sahib! (Ashcorrek, if you don't speak Baghdadi dialect)
<G>
TomR.


At 08:47 PM 19/06/99 +0200, you wrote:
>List Member "Eberhard Funck" <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de> wrote:
>Hi Tom,
>
>Here a better version of toolbar in a dialog:
>
>'
>DLL #1,"OwnSub.dll"
>  DECL CARD CreateToolWindow(W,W)
>  DECL CARD AddToolButton(W,W,W,L,L)
>  DECL BOOL AddToolSpace(W)
>ENDDLL
>'
>DLGBASE PIXEL
>STYLE% = DS_MODALFRAME | WS_POPUP | WS_VISIBLE | WS_CAPTION | WS_SYSMENU
>DIALOG #1, 100, 100, 288, 240, "Dialog with Toolbar", STYLE%, 8, "MS Sans
>Serif"
>  '
>  DEFPUSHBUTTON "OK", IDOK, 34, 172, 100, 28
>  PUSHBUTTON "Cancel", IDCANCEL, 154, 172, 100, 28
>  LTEXT "", 100, 30, 10, 220, 28, SS_LEFT
>  LISTBOX "", 200, 18, 44, 252, 136, LBS_STANDARD
>  '
>ENDDIALOG
>DLG FILL 1, GetSysColor (COLOR_BTNFACE)
>'
>' static control is client for toolbar
>Win& = ^CreateToolWindow(DLG(1, 100),100)
>' or dialog is client for toolbar
>' Win& = ^CreateToolWindow(DLG(1),100)
>~^AddToolSpace(Win&)
>~^AddToolButton(Win&,101,TRUE,0,"Cut")
>~^AddToolButton(Win&,102,TRUE,1,"Copy")
>~^AddToolButton(Win&,103,TRUE,2,"Insert")
>~^AddToolSpace(Win&)
>~^AddToolButton(Win&,104,TRUE,4,"Repeat")
>~^AddToolButton(Win&,105,TRUE,5,"Terminate")
>~^AddToolSpace(Win&)
>~^AddToolButton(Win&,106,TRUE,6,"New")
>~^AddToolButton(Win&,107,TRUE,7,"Open")
>~^AddToolButton(Win&,108,TRUE,$4000,"Always In Foreground")
>SHOWDIALOG #1
>'
>DO
>  GETEVENT
>  IF MENU(1) = 30
>    IF MENU(6) = IDOK || MENU(6) = IDCANCEL
>      ende! = TRUE
>    ENDIF
>  ENDIF
>  '
>  SELECT MENU(12)
>  CASE 101 TO 108
>    MESSAGE "Toolbar button " + STR$(MENU(12)), "Message", MB_OK, dummy&
>  ENDSELECT
>  '
>UNTIL ende! = TRUE || MENU(1) = 4
>CLOSEDIALOG  #1
>FREEDLL 1
>END
>
>
>Eberhard
>
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List Member Rainer_und_Silvia@t-online.de (Rainer Henke) wrote:
Hallo Eberhard
Excuse my english when I make mistakes.

You write "Put your image in a resource file..." - what kind of Program can do 
it ? Can I make this with Compiler ?

Rainer


Eberhard Funck schrieb:
> List Member "Eberhard Funck" <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> You can not link a bitmap with $LNK compiler function.
> Only lib, obj and res you can link.
>  Put your image in a resource file and link this file with
> $LNK RES [drive] [directory] resource file name
> Than you can load this bitmap with API function
> bmp& = LoadBitmap (handle of application instance, address of bitmap name)
> from this linked resource file.
>
> Eberhard
>
>
>
> >List Member Barlik@aol.com wrote:
> >I am trying to link a bitmap image into a program when compiling.
> >The BMP file is 43K.
> >I changed code to - bitmap&=LOADBMP("name.bmp")
> >$LNK 
> >I get an error out of memory
> >
> >Is there an example of this?
> >
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List Member Rainer_und_Silvia@t-online.de (Rainer Henke) wrote:
Hy Eberhard,

Excause my english please - I'm not so good in this language.

your Listing with toolbar in a dialog is great. My question is how can I find in 
"Ownsub.dll" the Printing Tool or the Save Tool or anything else ?

Rainer
 

Eberhard Funck schrieb:
> List Member "Eberhard Funck" <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de> wrote:
> Hi Tom,
>
> Here a better version of toolbar in a dialog:
>
> '
> DLL #1,"OwnSub.dll"
>   DECL CARD CreateToolWindow(W,W)
>   DECL CARD AddToolButton(W,W,W,L,L)
>   DECL BOOL AddToolSpace(W)
> ENDDLL
> '
> DLGBASE PIXEL
> STYLE% = DS_MODALFRAME | WS_POPUP | WS_VISIBLE | WS_CAPTION | WS_SYSMENU
> DIALOG #1, 100, 100, 288, 240, "Dialog with Toolbar", STYLE%, 8, "MS Sans
> Serif"
>   '
>   DEFPUSHBUTTON "OK", IDOK, 34, 172, 100, 28
>   PUSHBUTTON "Cancel", IDCANCEL, 154, 172, 100, 28
>   LTEXT "", 100, 30, 10, 220, 28, SS_LEFT
>   LISTBOX "", 200, 18, 44, 252, 136, LBS_STANDARD
>   '
> ENDDIALOG
> DLG FILL 1, GetSysColor (COLOR_BTNFACE)
> '
> ' static control is client for toolbar
> Win& = ^CreateToolWindow(DLG(1, 100),100)
> ' or dialog is client for toolbar
> ' Win& = ^CreateToolWindow(DLG(1),100)
> ~^AddToolSpace(Win&)
> ~^AddToolButton(Win&,101,TRUE,0,"Cut")
> ~^AddToolButton(Win&,102,TRUE,1,"Copy")
> ~^AddToolButton(Win&,103,TRUE,2,"Insert")
> ~^AddToolSpace(Win&)
> ~^AddToolButton(Win&,104,TRUE,4,"Repeat")
> ~^AddToolButton(Win&,105,TRUE,5,"Terminate")
> ~^AddToolSpace(Win&)
> ~^AddToolButton(Win&,106,TRUE,6,"New")
> ~^AddToolButton(Win&,107,TRUE,7,"Open")
> ~^AddToolButton(Win&,108,TRUE,$4000,"Always In Foreground")
> SHOWDIALOG #1
> '
> DO
>   GETEVENT
>   IF MENU(1) = 30
>     IF MENU(6) = IDOK || MENU(6) = IDCANCEL
>       ende! = TRUE
>     ENDIF
>   ENDIF
>   '
>   SELECT MENU(12)
>   CASE 101 TO 108
>     MESSAGE "Toolbar button " + STR$(MENU(12)), "Message", MB_OK, dummy&
>   ENDSELECT
>   '
> UNTIL ende! = TRUE || MENU(1) = 4
> CLOSEDIALOG  #1
> FREEDLL 1
> END
>
>
> Eberhard
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
At 01:52 PM 20/06/99 +0200, you wrote:
>List Member Rainer_und_Silvia@t-online.de (Rainer Henke) wrote:
>Hy Eberhard,
>
>Excause my english please - I'm not so good in this language.
>
>your Listing with toolbar in a dialog is great. My question is how can I
find in 
>"Ownsub.dll" the Printing Tool or the Save Tool or anything else ?
>
>Rainer
> 
>

Rainer
Don't let anybody fool you... your English is very good.  yes, I
do grin or laugh at some things the way you say them, but I do
understand them anyway!

I'm working my tail off writing a German-English translator because
I no longer understand very much German.  I did, 55 years ago!

ownsub.dll has no print or save features.  They could be put into it
easily enough _IF_ I had good routines available.  I have a good print
that uses font selection, but linecount is messy.  There are any number
of text saves available.  Most are OK.  Do you have the ownsub.dll diles
from Dale's website?  There are two.  One is the *.dll & samples, the
other is source for it.  There should be two versions in that *.zlp.

One has the original bitmaps but some corrections made to make things
work that didn't.  The other has different bitmaps (with the corrections).

To put bitmaps into a *.res file, you need a resource editor such as
MS's AppStudio or Borland's Resource Workshop.  you can make the *.rc
file in NotePad, but it has to be compiled into *.res to be useable as
a link-file.  Any one of several of us would be glad to make the *.res
for you.  The compilers are a bit expensive.

<G>
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List Member "Eberhard Funck" <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de> wrote:
Hallo Rainer,

Your english is so good or bad like mine english.
List member DB wanted link a bitmap to the exe file with
compiler. That don't work.

If you will load a bitmap from your own application, you must
create a bitmap resource in your resource file.

To create a resource file you must work with an resource workshop,
like Borlands Workshop. This application you have or you must buy.

With the GFA Basic for Windows, you can only load a bitmap
with LOADBITMAP function during running the application
from separate bitmap file.

Eberhard


List Member Rainer_und_Silvia@t-online.de (Rainer Henke) wrote:
Hallo Eberhard
Excuse my english when I make mistakes.

You write "Put your image in a resource file..." - what kind of Program can
do
it ? Can I make this with Compiler ?

Rainer





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List Member "Bev & Lou Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
hmmmmmmmmmmmmm Tom are  you getting half heimers !!!! >?????????
>>>>>Lou

----- Original Message -----
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> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> At 01:52 PM 20/06/99 +0200, you wrote:
> >List Member Rainer_und_Silvia@t-online.de (Rainer Henke) wrote:
> >Hy Eberhard,
> >
> >Excause my english please - I'm not so good in this language.
> >
> >your Listing with toolbar in a dialog is great. My question is how can I
> find in
> >"Ownsub.dll" the Printing Tool or the Save Tool or anything else ?
> >
> >Rainer
> >
> >
>
> Rainer
> Don't let anybody fool you... your English is very good.  yes, I
> do grin or laugh at some things the way you say them, but I do
> understand them anyway!
>
> I'm working my tail off writing a German-English translator because
> I no longer understand very much German.  I did, 55 years ago!
>
> ownsub.dll has no print or save features.  They could be put into it
> easily enough _IF_ I had good routines available.  I have a good print
> that uses font selection, but linecount is messy.  There are any number
> of text saves available.  Most are OK.  Do you have the ownsub.dll diles
> from Dale's website?  There are two.  One is the *.dll & samples, the
> other is source for it.  There should be two versions in that *.zlp.
>
> One has the original bitmaps but some corrections made to make things
> work that didn't.  The other has different bitmaps (with the corrections).
>
> To put bitmaps into a *.res file, you need a resource editor such as
> MS's AppStudio or Borland's Resource Workshop.  you can make the *.rc
> file in NotePad, but it has to be compiled into *.res to be useable as
> a link-file.  Any one of several of us would be glad to make the *.res
> for you.  The compilers are a bit expensive.
>
> <G>
> TomR.
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List Member "adbryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Hi Rainer,
MYOWNSUB. ZIP contains the DLL. You can download it form the GFAWHELP web
site.  All files for download are in the ZIP format so you must have a unzip
utility. All downloads are free.
The address is:
http://www.gfawhelp.gfa.net
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> List Member Rainer_und_Silvia@t-online.de (Rainer Henke) wrote:
> Hy Eberhard,
>
> Excause my english please - I'm not so good in this language.
>
> your Listing with toolbar in a dialog is great. My question is how can I
find in
> "Ownsub.dll" the Printing Tool or the Save Tool or anything else ?
>
> Rainer
>
>
> Eberhard Funck schrieb:
> > List Member "Eberhard Funck" <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de> wrote:
> > Hi Tom,
> >
> > Here a better version of toolbar in a dialog:
> >
> > '
> > DLL #1,"OwnSub.dll"
> >   DECL CARD CreateToolWindow(W,W)
> >   DECL CARD AddToolButton(W,W,W,L,L)
> >   DECL BOOL AddToolSpace(W)
> > ENDDLL
> > '
> > DLGBASE PIXEL
> > STYLE% = DS_MODALFRAME | WS_POPUP | WS_VISIBLE | WS_CAPTION | WS_SYSMENU
> > DIALOG #1, 100, 100, 288, 240, "Dialog with Toolbar", STYLE%, 8, "MS
Sans
> > Serif"
> >   '
> >   DEFPUSHBUTTON "OK", IDOK, 34, 172, 100, 28
> >   PUSHBUTTON "Cancel", IDCANCEL, 154, 172, 100, 28
> >   LTEXT "", 100, 30, 10, 220, 28, SS_LEFT
> >   LISTBOX "", 200, 18, 44, 252, 136, LBS_STANDARD
> >   '
> > ENDDIALOG
> > DLG FILL 1, GetSysColor (COLOR_BTNFACE)
> > '
> > ' static control is client for toolbar
> > Win& = ^CreateToolWindow(DLG(1, 100),100)
> > ' or dialog is client for toolbar
> > ' Win& = ^CreateToolWindow(DLG(1),100)
> > ~^AddToolSpace(Win&)
> > ~^AddToolButton(Win&,101,TRUE,0,"Cut")
> > ~^AddToolButton(Win&,102,TRUE,1,"Copy")
> > ~^AddToolButton(Win&,103,TRUE,2,"Insert")
> > ~^AddToolSpace(Win&)
> > ~^AddToolButton(Win&,104,TRUE,4,"Repeat")
> > ~^AddToolButton(Win&,105,TRUE,5,"Terminate")
> > ~^AddToolSpace(Win&)
> > ~^AddToolButton(Win&,106,TRUE,6,"New")
> > ~^AddToolButton(Win&,107,TRUE,7,"Open")
> > ~^AddToolButton(Win&,108,TRUE,$4000,"Always In Foreground")
> > SHOWDIALOG #1
> > '
> > DO
> >   GETEVENT
> >   IF MENU(1) = 30
> >     IF MENU(6) = IDOK || MENU(6) = IDCANCEL
> >       ende! = TRUE
> >     ENDIF
> >   ENDIF
> >   '
> >   SELECT MENU(12)
> >   CASE 101 TO 108
> >     MESSAGE "Toolbar button " + STR$(MENU(12)), "Message", MB_OK, dummy&
> >   ENDSELECT
> >   '
> > UNTIL ende! = TRUE || MENU(1) = 4
> > CLOSEDIALOG  #1
> > FREEDLL 1
> > END
> >
> >
> > Eberhard
> >
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List Member "adbryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
A new download has been added to the download section of the GFAWHELP web
site. SEEK4.ZIP by Tom Record is a GERMAN/ENGLISH/GERMAN translator program.
Don't forget to check it out.
Dale

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List Member "Afonso Gustavo B. Martins" <afonsogustavo@abordo.com.br> wro=
te:
Hi,
Using Borland=B4s Resource Workshop (
http://203.148.211.201/files/brw45.zip  ) I have created a BMP.RES file
with  LOGOC bitmap resource,  I want to compile with my .GFW.
To display such BMP in the COMPILED program I use:
      $LNK Res "C:\GFAPRG\BMP.RES"
      a& =3D LoadBitmap(_INSTANCE,"LOGOC")
      PUT 10,10,a&
instead of (that works in INTERPRETED program):
       a$ =3D "LOGOC.BMP"
       IF EXIST(a$)
         a& =3D LOADBMP(a$)
       ENDIF
       PUT 10,10,a&
The compiled program shows the bitmap without problems, but the icon
selected in the compiler it is no more seen when I run the compiled
program.
Could anybody help me to solve that problem?
Thanks,
Gustavo

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List Member "Afonso Gustavo B. Martins" <afonsogustavo@abordo.com.br> wro=
te:
Hi,
Sorry to ask you before read GFAWHELP...
The way I found on GFAWHELP works great:
Add an icon resource to the .RES file and use this in your code:

Iconhnd%=3D LoadIcon(_INSTANCE,"ICON")
~SetClassWord(WIN(1),GCW_HICON,Iconhnd%)

Long life for GFAWHELP!!!


"Afonso Gustavo B. Martins" wrote:

> List Member "Afonso Gustavo B. Martins" <afonsogustavo@abordo.com.br> w=
rote:
> Hi,
> Using Borland=B4s Resource Workshop (
> http://203.148.211.201/files/brw45.zip  ) I have created a BMP.RES file
> with  LOGOC bitmap resource,  I want to compile with my .GFW.
> To display such BMP in the COMPILED program I use:
>       $LNK Res "C:\GFAPRG\BMP.RES"
>       a& =3D LoadBitmap(_INSTANCE,"LOGOC")
>       PUT 10,10,a&
> instead of (that works in INTERPRETED program):
>        a$ =3D "LOGOC.BMP"
>        IF EXIST(a$)
>          a& =3D LOADBMP(a$)
>        ENDIF
>        PUT 10,10,a&
> The compiled program shows the bitmap without problems, but the icon
> selected in the compiler it is no more seen when I run the compiled
> program.
> Could anybody help me to solve that problem?
> Thanks,
> Gustavo
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List Member Vogel Michael <vo@schoeller.at> wrote:
Hi,
	what Icon ?
	Is it within the res-file ?
	how to you load it within your program ?



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> Using Borland=B4s Resource Workshop (
> http://203.148.211.201/files/brw45.zip  ) I have created a BMP.RES =
file
> with  LOGOC bitmap resource,  I want to compile with my .GFW.
> To display such BMP in the COMPILED program I use:
>       $LNK Res "C:\GFAPRG\BMP.RES"
>       a& =3D LoadBitmap(_INSTANCE,"LOGOC")
>       PUT 10,10,a&
> instead of (that works in INTERPRETED program):
>        a$ =3D "LOGOC.BMP"
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>        PUT 10,10,a&
> The compiled program shows the bitmap without problems, but the icon
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I've a problem with SubOwn.dll. In the Help-File was declared, how I can =
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List Member "adbryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
OK, Let'shave some opinions.
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I would like to know if GFA could be independently used to create an
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Alright, I'll bite.

Such as?

As in MS's SmallTalk being used to write ShopTalk's Liberty Basic?
If this, yes... why not?  LB requires 1.5M of runtime support *.dlls
be4cause it's programs are only tokenized... partially parsed.  You run
a 0.4M *.exe, whis is just an interpretor for the *.tkn files.

Somehow, I think GFA-W can take it all the way to compilation _IF_
someone can write a compiler in it.  Really don't see why not!

I've spent some time trying to interpret LB's commands & statements to
GFA-W so I could compile LB code to an *.exe.  DoyleW. has a bunch of
time in this, too.

<G>
TomR.



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Hallo Rainer,

Here a lttle example, how you can insert
an icon in a dialogbox.

1. Create a static control with 32 x 32 pixel in your dialogbox.

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32, 32

2. Load icon from resource and insert it in this control.

    STM_SETICON& =3D WM_USER + 0
    hIcon& =3D LoadIcon (_INSTANCE, "name" or 1234) /* resource name or =
number of resource
    ~SendDlgItemMessage (DLG(1), id&, STM_SETICON&, hIcon&, 0)

if you have no resource editor, than you can load the application icon
from your exe file with:
 hicon& =3D LoadIcon (NULL, IDI_APPLICATION)

Eberhard

    Hello everyone
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    One question:
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Here a lttle example, how you can=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>an icon in a dialogbox.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial size=3D2>1. Create a static =
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32 pixel in your dialogbox.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
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y, 32, 32</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>2. Load icon from resource and insert =
it in this=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
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<DIV>if you have no resource editor, than you can load the application=20
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<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial size=3D2>Eberhard</FONT></DIV>
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HI Eberhard,
Could you send a working example for the GFAWHELP file?
Dale

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Eberhard Funck=20
  To: gfabasic@gfa.net=20
  Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 1999 12:16 PM
  Subject: Re: [gfabasic] ICO into Dialog


  Hallo Rainer,
  =20
  Here a lttle example, how you can insert
  an icon in a dialogbox.
  =20
  1. Create a static control with 32 x 32 pixel in your dialogbox.
  =20
      CONTROL "", id&, "STATIC", SS_ICON | WS_CHILD | WS_VISIBLE, x, y, =
32, 32
  =20
  2. Load icon from resource and insert it in this control.
  =20
      STM_SETICON& =3D WM_USER + 0
      hIcon& =3D LoadIcon (_INSTANCE, "name" or 1234) /* resource name =
or number of resource
      ~SendDlgItemMessage (DLG(1), id&, STM_SETICON&, hIcon&, 0)

  if you have no resource editor, than you can load the application icon
  from your exe file with:
   hicon& =3D LoadIcon (NULL, IDI_APPLICATION)

  Eberhard
  =20
    Hello everyone
    =20
    One question:
    Can everyone tell me how I can put *.ICO Pictures into Dialogboxes =
or Bitmaps without Background ?
    When I made Bitmaps into a Paintingprogram with Background (Grey) =
it's not unconditional the same Color as the Dialog-Background.
    =20
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    Rainer

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  <A href=3D"mailto:funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de"=20
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  <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial size=3D2>Hallo =
Rainer,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Here a lttle example, how you can=20
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>an icon in a dialogbox.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial size=3D2>1. Create a static =
control with 32=20
  x 32 pixel in your dialogbox.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
CONTROL "",=20
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32</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>2. Load icon from resource and insert =
it in this=20
  control.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
STM_SETICON&amp;=20
  =3D WM_USER + 0<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; hIcon&amp; =3D LoadIcon =
(_INSTANCE, "name"=20
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  ~SendDlgItemMessage (DLG(1), id&amp;, STM_SETICON&amp;, hIcon&amp;,=20
  0)<BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>if you have no resource editor, than you can load the application =

  icon</DIV>
  <DIV>from your exe file with:</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;hicon&amp; =3D LoadIcon (NULL, IDI_APPLICATION)</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial size=3D2>Eberhard</FONT></DIV>
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    <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial size=3D2>One =
question:</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial size=3D2>Can everyone tell =
me how I can=20
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    <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial size=3D2>When I made Bitmaps =
into a=20
    Paintingprogram with Background (Grey) it's not unconditional the =
same Color=20
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    <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks</FONT></DIV>
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Hallo Dale,

as an attechment a little demo file for=20
inserting icons in dialogboxes.

Eberhard


    -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----
    Von: adbryant <adbryant@email.msn.com>
    An: gfabasic@gfa.net <gfabasic@gfa.net>
    Datum: Mittwoch, 23. Juni 1999 00:43
    Betreff: Re: [gfabasic] ICO into Dialog
   =20
   =20
    HI Eberhard,
    Could you send a working example for the GFAWHELP file?
    Dale
   =20
        ----- Original Message -----=20
        From: Eberhard Funck=20
        To: gfabasic@gfa.net=20
        Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 1999 12:16 PM
        Subject: Re: [gfabasic] ICO into Dialog
       =20
       =20
        Hallo Rainer,
        =20
        Here a lttle example, how you can insert
        an icon in a dialogbox.
        =20
        1. Create a static control with 32 x 32 pixel in your dialogbox.
        =20
            CONTROL "", id&, "STATIC", SS_ICON | WS_CHILD | WS_VISIBLE, =
x, y, 32, 32
        =20
        2. Load icon from resource and insert it in this control.
        =20
            STM_SETICON& =3D WM_USER + 0
            hIcon& =3D LoadIcon (_INSTANCE, "name" or 1234) /* resource =
name or number of resource
            ~SendDlgItemMessage (DLG(1), id&, STM_SETICON&, hIcon&, 0)
       =20
        if you have no resource editor, than you can load the =
application icon
        from your exe file with:
         hicon& =3D LoadIcon (NULL, IDI_APPLICATION)
       =20
        Eberhard
        =20
            Hello everyone
            =20
            One question:
            Can everyone tell me how I can put *.ICO Pictures into =
Dialogboxes or Bitmaps without Background ?
            When I made Bitmaps into a Paintingprogram with Background =
(Grey) it's not unconditional the same Color as the Dialog-Background.
            =20
            Thanks
            Rainer

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>as an attechment a little demo file for =

</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>inserting icons in =
dialogboxes.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Eberhard</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dale</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <BLOCKQUOTE=20
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        <A href=3D"mailto:funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de"=20
        title=3Dfunck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de>Eberhard Funck</A> </DIV>
        <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
        href=3D"mailto:gfabasic@gfa.net"=20
        title=3Dgfabasic@gfa.net>gfabasic@gfa.net</A> </DIV>
        <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, June 22, =
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        <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [gfabasic] =
ICO into=20
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        <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial size=3D2>Hallo =
Rainer,</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial =
size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Here a lttle example, how you =
can=20
        insert</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>an icon in a =
dialogbox.</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial size=3D2>1. Create a =
static control=20
        with 32 x 32 pixel in your dialogbox.</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial =
size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial =
size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; CONTROL=20
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        <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial =
size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>2. Load icon from resource and =
insert it in=20
        this control.</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial =
size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        STM_SETICON&amp; =3D WM_USER + 0<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
hIcon&amp; =3D=20
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or=20
        number of resource<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; ~SendDlgItemMessage =
(DLG(1),=20
        id&amp;, STM_SETICON&amp;, hIcon&amp;, 0)<BR></FONT></DIV>
        <DIV>if you have no resource editor, than you can load the =
application=20
        icon</DIV>
        <DIV>from your exe file with:</DIV>
        <DIV>&nbsp;hicon&amp; =3D LoadIcon (NULL, IDI_APPLICATION)</DIV>
        <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial =
size=3D2>Eberhard</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial =
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            <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial =
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            <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial size=3D2>One=20
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everyone tell me how=20
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            <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial size=3D2>When I made =
Bitmaps into=20
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unconditional the=20
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            <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial =
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            <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial =
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HI Eberhard,
Thank you for the dialog demo. I will add it to the GFAWHELP file and als=
o
include it in the GFA news letter. I really do appreciate it. Are you sti=
ll
on vacation?
Dale

----- Original Message -----
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To: gfabasic@gfa.net
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 1999 11:04 PM
Subject: Re: [gfabasic] ICO into Dialog


Hallo Dale,

as an attechment a little demo file for
inserting icons in dialogboxes.

Eberhard


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Datum: Mittwoch, 23. Juni 1999 00:43
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HI Eberhard,
Could you send a working example for the GFAWHELP file?
Dale

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To: gfabasic@gfa.net
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 1999 12:16 PM
Subject: Re: [gfabasic] ICO into Dialog


Hallo Rainer,

Here a lttle example, how you can insert
an icon in a dialogbox.

1. Create a static control with 32 x 32 pixel in your dialogbox.

    CONTROL "", id&, "STATIC", SS_ICON | WS_CHILD | WS_VISIBLE, x, y, 32,=
 32

2. Load icon from resource and insert it in this control.

    STM_SETICON& =3D WM_USER + 0
    hIcon& =3D LoadIcon (_INSTANCE, "name" or 1234) /* resource name or n=
umber
of resource
    ~SendDlgItemMessage (DLG(1), id&, STM_SETICON&, hIcon&, 0)

if you have no resource editor, than you can load the application icon
from your exe file with:
 hicon& =3D LoadIcon (NULL, IDI_APPLICATION)

Eberhard

Hello everyone

One question:
Can everyone tell me how I can put *.ICO Pictures into Dialogboxes or
Bitmaps without Background ?
When I made Bitmaps into a Paintingprogram with Background (Grey) it's no=
t
unconditional the same Color as the Dialog-Background.

Thanks
Rainer


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List Member "Eberhard Funck" <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de> wrote:
Hallo Dale,

I must work this week, than I am on vacation for 5 weeks.

(from 28.06.99 - 31.07.99)
I go around through old Germany per train,
but some days in July I am at home.
I must look to my emails :-)


Greetings

Eberhard


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An: gfabasic@gfa.net <gfabasic@gfa.net>
Datum: Mittwoch, 23. Juni 1999 17:44
Betreff: Re: [gfabasic] ICO into Dialog


>List Member "adbryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
>HI Eberhard,
>Thank you for the dialog demo. I will add it to the GFAWHELP file and al=
so
>include it in the GFA news letter. I really do appreciate it. Are you st=
ill
>on vacation?
>Dale
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Eberhard Funck
>To: gfabasic@gfa.net
>Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 1999 11:04 PM
>Subject: Re: [gfabasic] ICO into Dialog
>
>
>Hallo Dale,
>
>as an attechment a little demo file for
>inserting icons in dialogboxes.
>
>Eberhard
>
>
>-----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----
>Von: adbryant <adbryant@email.msn.com>
>An: gfabasic@gfa.net <gfabasic@gfa.net>
>Datum: Mittwoch, 23. Juni 1999 00:43
>Betreff: Re: [gfabasic] ICO into Dialog
>
>
>HI Eberhard,
>Could you send a working example for the GFAWHELP file?
>Dale
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Eberhard Funck
>To: gfabasic@gfa.net
>Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 1999 12:16 PM
>Subject: Re: [gfabasic] ICO into Dialog
>
>
>Hallo Rainer,
>
>Here a lttle example, how you can insert
>an icon in a dialogbox.
>
>1. Create a static control with 32 x 32 pixel in your dialogbox.
>
>    CONTROL "", id&, "STATIC", SS_ICON | WS_CHILD | WS_VISIBLE, x, y, 32=
,
32
>
>2. Load icon from resource and insert it in this control.
>
>    STM_SETICON& =3D WM_USER + 0
>    hIcon& =3D LoadIcon (_INSTANCE, "name" or 1234) /* resource name or
number
>of resource
>    ~SendDlgItemMessage (DLG(1), id&, STM_SETICON&, hIcon&, 0)
>
>if you have no resource editor, than you can load the application icon
>from your exe file with:
> hicon& =3D LoadIcon (NULL, IDI_APPLICATION)
>
>Eberhard
>
>Hello everyone
>
>One question:
>Can everyone tell me how I can put *.ICO Pictures into Dialogboxes or
>Bitmaps without Background ?
>When I made Bitmaps into a Paintingprogram with Background (Grey) it's n=
ot
>unconditional the same Color as the Dialog-Background.
>
>Thanks
>Rainer
>
>
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List Member "adbryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:

----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 1999 12:01 PM
Subject: Re: [gfabasic] ICO into Dialog


> I hope you have a great  vacation. We will all miss you. Hurry back!
> Dale
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Eberhard Funck <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de>
> To: <gfabasic@gfa.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 1999 9:36 AM
> Subject: Re: [gfabasic] ICO into Dialog
>
>
> > List Member "Eberhard Funck" <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de> wrote:
> > Hallo Dale,
> >
> > I must work this week, than I am on vacation for 5 weeks.
> >
> > (from 28.06.99 - 31.07.99)
> > I go around through old Germany per train,
> > but some days in July I am at home.
> > I must look to my emails :-)
> >
> >
> > Greetings
> >
> > Eberhard
> >
> >
> > -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: adbryant <adbryant@email.msn.com>
> > An: gfabasic@gfa.net <gfabasic@gfa.net>
> > Datum: Mittwoch, 23. Juni 1999 17:44
> > Betreff: Re: [gfabasic] ICO into Dialog
> >
> >
> > >List Member "adbryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> > >HI Eberhard,
> > >Thank you for the dialog demo. I will add it to the GFAWHELP file an=
d
> also
> > >include it in the GFA news letter. I really do appreciate it. Are yo=
u
> still
> > >on vacation?
> > >Dale
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: Eberhard Funck
> > >To: gfabasic@gfa.net
> > >Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 1999 11:04 PM
> > >Subject: Re: [gfabasic] ICO into Dialog
> > >
> > >
> > >Hallo Dale,
> > >
> > >as an attechment a little demo file for
> > >inserting icons in dialogboxes.
> > >
> > >Eberhard
> > >
> > >
> > >-----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----
> > >Von: adbryant <adbryant@email.msn.com>
> > >An: gfabasic@gfa.net <gfabasic@gfa.net>
> > >Datum: Mittwoch, 23. Juni 1999 00:43
> > >Betreff: Re: [gfabasic] ICO into Dialog
> > >
> > >
> > >HI Eberhard,
> > >Could you send a working example for the GFAWHELP file?
> > >Dale
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: Eberhard Funck
> > >To: gfabasic@gfa.net
> > >Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 1999 12:16 PM
> > >Subject: Re: [gfabasic] ICO into Dialog
> > >
> > >
> > >Hallo Rainer,
> > >
> > >Here a lttle example, how you can insert
> > >an icon in a dialogbox.
> > >
> > >1. Create a static control with 32 x 32 pixel in your dialogbox.
> > >
> > >    CONTROL "", id&, "STATIC", SS_ICON | WS_CHILD | WS_VISIBLE, x, y=
,
32,
> > 32
> > >
> > >2. Load icon from resource and insert it in this control.
> > >
> > >    STM_SETICON& =3D WM_USER + 0
> > >    hIcon& =3D LoadIcon (_INSTANCE, "name" or 1234) /* resource name=
 or
> > number
> > >of resource
> > >    ~SendDlgItemMessage (DLG(1), id&, STM_SETICON&, hIcon&, 0)
> > >
> > >if you have no resource editor, than you can load the application ic=
on
> > >from your exe file with:
> > > hicon& =3D LoadIcon (NULL, IDI_APPLICATION)
> > >
> > >Eberhard
> > >
> > >Hello everyone
> > >
> > >One question:
> > >Can everyone tell me how I can put *.ICO Pictures into Dialogboxes o=
r
> > >Bitmaps without Background ?
> > >When I made Bitmaps into a Paintingprogram with Background (Grey) it=
's
> not
> > >unconditional the same Color as the Dialog-Background.
> > >
> > >Thanks
> > >Rainer
> > >
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Greetings

I've identified something I desparately need: EN_VSCROLL.

I find NO examples of using it, so there is no example of how
to bring it into play.  I know only that I will have to get
access to the Windows Messages.

Does someone have an example of this to share?  It is the
EDIT VSCROLL Notification message & is passed to the window 
to perform a vertical scroll.

I need it to detect when an EDIT scroll is demanding more
scroll than is available.  I have the lines at the top &
bottom of the range.

Tremendous appreciation for all help on this.
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List Member Rainer_und_Silvia@t-online.de (Rainer Henke) wrote:
Hallo Eberhard

I wish you a good vacation.

Rainer

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List Member "Eberhard Funck" <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de> wrote:
Hallo Dale,

I must work this week, than I am on vacation for 5 weeks.

(from 28.06.99 - 31.07.99)
I go around through old Germany per train,
but some days in July I am at home.
I must look to my emails :-)


Greetings

Eberhard


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>List Member "adbryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
>HI Eberhard,
>Thank you for the dialog demo. I will add it to the GFAWHELP file and al=
so
>include it in the GFA news letter. I really do appreciate it. Are you st=
ill
>on vacation?
>Dale
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Eberhard Funck
>To: gfabasic@gfa.net
>Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 1999 11:04 PM
>Subject: Re: [gfabasic] ICO into Dialog
>
>
>Hallo Dale,
>
>as an attechment a little demo file for
>inserting icons in dialogboxes.
>
>Eberhard
>
>
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>Von: adbryant <adbryant@email.msn.com>
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>Datum: Mittwoch, 23. Juni 1999 00:43
>Betreff: Re: [gfabasic] ICO into Dialog
>
>
>HI Eberhard,
>Could you send a working example for the GFAWHELP file?
>Dale
>
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>Subject: Re: [gfabasic] ICO into Dialog
>
>
>Hallo Rainer,
>
>Here a lttle example, how you can insert
>an icon in a dialogbox.
>
>1. Create a static control with 32 x 32 pixel in your dialogbox.
>
>    CONTROL "", id&, "STATIC", SS_ICON | WS_CHILD | WS_VISIBLE, x, y, 32=
,
32
>
>2. Load icon from resource and insert it in this control.
>
>    STM_SETICON& =3D WM_USER + 0
>    hIcon& =3D LoadIcon (_INSTANCE, "name" or 1234) /* resource name or
number
>of resource
>    ~SendDlgItemMessage (DLG(1), id&, STM_SETICON&, hIcon&, 0)
>
>if you have no resource editor, than you can load the application icon
>from your exe file with:
> hicon& =3D LoadIcon (NULL, IDI_APPLICATION)
>
>Eberhard
>
>Hello everyone
>
>One question:
>Can everyone tell me how I can put *.ICO Pictures into Dialogboxes or
>Bitmaps without Background ?
>When I made Bitmaps into a Paintingprogram with Background (Grey) it's n=
ot
>unconditional the same Color as the Dialog-Background.
>
>Thanks
>Rainer
>
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List Member "Eberhard Funck" <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de> wrote:
Hi Tom,

Here a little programm with demonstration about
the notify message EN_VSCROLL/EN_HSCROLL
for an edit window.

Is this so correct for you??

Eberhard

>Greetings
>
>I've identified something I desparately need: EN_VSCROLL.
>
>I find NO examples of using it, so there is no example of how
>to bring it into play.  I know only that I will have to get
>access to the Windows Messages.
>
>Does someone have an example of this to share?  It is the
>EDIT VSCROLL Notification message & is passed to the window 
>to perform a vertical scroll.
>
>I need it to detect when an EDIT scroll is demanding more
>scroll than is available.  I have the lines at the top &
>bottom of the range.
>
>Tremendous appreciation for all help on this.
><G>
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List Member "adbryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Where is the program? Please, no more teasing me.(G)
Tom, did you get a program?
Dale

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> List Member "Eberhard Funck" <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de> wrote:
> Hi Tom,
> 
> Here a little programm with demonstration about
> the notify message EN_VSCROLL/EN_HSCROLL
> for an edit window.
> 
> Is this so correct for you??
> 
> Eberhard
> 
> >Greetings
> >
> >I've identified something I desparately need: EN_VSCROLL.
> >
> >I find NO examples of using it, so there is no example of how
> >to bring it into play.  I know only that I will have to get
> >access to the Windows Messages.
> >
> >Does someone have an example of this to share?  It is the
> >EDIT VSCROLL Notification message & is passed to the window 
> >to perform a vertical scroll.
> >
> >I need it to detect when an EDIT scroll is demanding more
> >scroll than is available.  I have the lines at the top &
> >bottom of the range.
> >
> >Tremendous appreciation for all help on this.
> ><G>
> >TomR.
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Hi all,

My provider had yesterday a email problem.
Here as attechment the example programm.
"Vscroll.zip"

Eberhard

>List Member "Eberhard Funck" <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de> wrote:
>Hi Tom,
>
>Here a little programm with demonstration about
>the notify message EN_VSCROLL/EN_HSCROLL
>for an edit window.
>
>Is this so correct for you??
>
>Eberhard
>
>>Greetings
>>
>>I've identified something I desparately need: EN_VSCROLL.
>>
>>I find NO examples of using it, so there is no example of how
>>to bring it into play.  I know only that I will have to get
>>access to the Windows Messages.
>>
>>Does someone have an example of this to share?  It is the
>>EDIT VSCROLL Notification message & is passed to the window 
>>to perform a vertical scroll.
>>
>>I need it to detect when an EDIT scroll is demanding more
>>scroll than is available.  I have the lines at the top &
>>bottom of the range.
>>
>>Tremendous appreciation for all help on this.
>><G>
>>TomR.
>
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Eberhard & interested parties:

The example *does* give access to the scrollbars, but not as I
expected.  Thank you, Eberhard.  Perhaps it can be worked out 
from there.

I've seen messages somewhere that were specific & would do what
I am attempting to do.  I simply can't find them again.

The missing messages are "the up arrow of the VScroll was clicked",
etc... specifying which arrow was clicked.  If a scroll is at the end
(either one) of it's range, the arrow button does still respond to
being clicked.  _This_ is the message(s) I seek.

Please be patient with me... this is difficult to put into words.

I am working toward running a 10.4M file thru an EDITTEXT successfully.

My theory:

When something less than the max allowable is loaded in, it can be
scrolled to that limit & dump/reload with the next portion.  This
requires knowing what the top-most line is + end of scroll-range
has been reached + an attempt to scroll beyond the end of range.

All accounting in an EDIT takes place on the top-most line.

This indicates emptying the EDIT & reloading it with the next or
previous text.

If the file in question isn't broken up into smaller files prior to
beginning this, it does become far more complex because SEEK #1,n
must be used to keep track of where you are in the file.

Why Eberhard's example doesn't work for this... when the EDIT has
reached either limit, further clicks on the arrows yields no msg.
The arrow buttons respond, but this particular message does NOT.

I suppose that there are many other ways to accomplish this, but
I also believe this proposed method is valid & functional - it
requires only that the msg of the buttons showing activated be
available to the program.

<G>
TomR.

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List Member mechanic <mechanic@sonet.net> wrote:
Tom Record wrote:
> 
> 
> The missing messages are "the up arrow of the VScroll was clicked",
> etc... specifying which arrow was clicked.  If a scroll is at the end
> (either one) of it's range, the arrow button does still respond to
> being clicked.  _This_ is the message(s) I seek.
> 

Hi Tom, The following info is for 32 bit Windows. I don't know if it
will apply to 16 bit or not, but the messages are:

Top Scrollbar button: SB_LINEUP
Area between top button and moving scroll: SB_PAGEUP
Area between btm button and moving scroll: SB_PAGEDOWN
Bottom Scrollbar button: SB_LINEDOWN

There is also two more messages which are only used with the keyboard:

SB_TOP
SB_BOTTOM

The Win31 API text says the following applys for 16 bit:

' Scroll Bar Commands
Public Const SB_LINEUP = 0
Public Const SB_LINEDOWN = 1
Public Const SB_PAGEUP = 2
Public Const SB_PAGEDOWN = 3
Public Const SB_THUMBPOSITION = 4
Public Const SB_THUMBTRACK = 5
Public Const SB_TOP = 6
Public Const SB_BOTTOM = 7
Public Const SB_ENDSCROLL = 8

So it looks like Windows will return SB_LINEUP if the top scrollbar btn
is pressed. Don't know if this helps but maybe it will. 
Later...

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Subject: Re: [gfabasic] envscrol/Eberhard
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Thanks, Doyle

Kin to Eberhard's demo... works as long as the text is NOT
at either limit... top or bottom.  Once the text has been
scrolled to a limit, the buttons still indicate action but
the msgs cease.

I'm searching for the one that makes the buttons indicate 
being punched... this is good regardless.

I've seen'em, just can't find'em.  have been thru MSVC &
Win31SDK, Dale's 2 files, & more.  I have'em somewhere!
<G>
TomR.


At 04:47 PM 25/06/99 -0500, you wrote:
>List Member mechanic <mechanic@sonet.net> wrote:
>Tom Record wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> The missing messages are "the up arrow of the VScroll was clicked",
>> etc... specifying which arrow was clicked.  If a scroll is at the end
>> (either one) of it's range, the arrow button does still respond to
>> being clicked.  _This_ is the message(s) I seek.
>> 
>
>Hi Tom, The following info is for 32 bit Windows. I don't know if it
>will apply to 16 bit or not, but the messages are:
>
>Top Scrollbar button: SB_LINEUP
>Area between top button and moving scroll: SB_PAGEUP
>Area between btm button and moving scroll: SB_PAGEDOWN
>Bottom Scrollbar button: SB_LINEDOWN
>
>There is also two more messages which are only used with the keyboard:
>
>SB_TOP
>SB_BOTTOM
>
>The Win31 API text says the following applys for 16 bit:
>
>' Scroll Bar Commands
>Public Const SB_LINEUP = 0
>Public Const SB_LINEDOWN = 1
>Public Const SB_PAGEUP = 2
>Public Const SB_PAGEDOWN = 3
>Public Const SB_THUMBPOSITION = 4
>Public Const SB_THUMBTRACK = 5
>Public Const SB_TOP = 6
>Public Const SB_BOTTOM = 7
>Public Const SB_ENDSCROLL = 8
>
>So it looks like Windows will return SB_LINEUP if the top scrollbar btn
>is pressed. Don't know if this helps but maybe it will. 
>Later...
>
>-- 
>Doyle Whisenant
>mechanic@sonet.net
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Hi Tom,

I hope my new example help you Perhaps.
With WM_VSCROLL message you don't get anythink
from EDit control scrollbar.
Only in the way, I show you in this example (Vscroll1.zip).

Eberhard


>List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>Thanks, Doyle
>
>Kin to Eberhard's demo... works as long as the text is NOT
>at either limit... top or bottom.  Once the text has been
>scrolled to a limit, the buttons still indicate action but
>the msgs cease.
>
>I'm searching for the one that makes the buttons indicate 
>being punched... this is good regardless.
>
>I've seen'em, just can't find'em.  have been thru MSVC &
>Win31SDK, Dale's 2 files, & more.  I have'em somewhere!
><G>
>TomR.


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Hi Tom,

here another example with edit control
scrollbar messages in an own callback function
for the edit control.
Here you get information about the scrollbar position,
if you push the scrollbar button.

Eberhard


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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Hey, Boss

This one *seems* to do what I need!  It spits out the position of the
slider even if scrolled normally.  Exactly what I've wasted about 85
hours trying to do.

My first attempt with this will be to use separate files in one
EDITTEXT (the translation vocabulary db) of about 300 lines each.
This keeps the files well under 16K.  By giving each a first & 
last line of 0 bytes, there is little chance anybody will attempt
to copy them out.  I can detect the presence of any data in them,
so as long as the linelength=0 && your routine says it's the first
or last line, we have what I needed.  Meet these conditions and
either the previous db file or the next db file will be loaded in
place of the existing one.

Below that EDITTEXT is another.  The first is 1/3 WINDGET(7), the 
other is the remainder in height.  It has to be interactive for
now.  User selects word or phrase above & copy/pastes it below.

2nd step will be to not load the top editor until a word or phrase
has been selected below.  *That* will trigger loading the proper
file above or... perhaps... just a 5K or so segment from the main
vocabulary db.  *This* may be best, because there are multitudes
of duplications & the user needs access to all of them for each
word or phrase.

This is really some job!  But... when little things work the way
I want, it is also fun.

oh... when the lower, "working" EDITTEXT reaches the end of it's
contents, it, too, will reload with the appropriate part of the
document being translated.  For the German-English part, I have
a db of over 120,000 words & phrases to work with.  As time passes,
I add to it by translating from the tons of examples I have in German.

I've been working with SEEK #n,n, so I can move around in a sequential
file now.

Why in the hell can't I be happy doing simple things?

Thanks very much for your time on this.  It helps tremendously.

Time to take my meds & go for a walk - is 6 in the morning.  I'll
go to bed when I get back & spend the afternoon working on this mess.

Again, Thank you!  I suspect this is the way a lot of other authors
handle monster files, but they probably load the whole file into
memory.  I'm not that far advanced, tho.

Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! 
 <G>
TomR.


At 11:33 AM 26/06/99 +0200, you wrote:
>Hi Tom,
>
>here another example with edit control
>scrollbar messages in an own callback function
>for the edit control.
>Here you get information about the scrollbar position,
>if you push the scrollbar button.
>
>Eberhard
>
>
>Attachment Converted: C:\WORLDNET\DOWNLOAD\Vscroll2.zip
>

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
John
Get well!  You're needed.

Eberhard
Have a good holiday!  Check in often... you're needed, too.

Bev
Get well!  I can't pick your mind if you stay offline.

Dale
You keeping up w/ Eberhard's goodies?  This last one, nvscrol2, is
what I've been bustin a gut to do.  Will send if you missed it.

Doyle
Gittin'er!  Up & at'em - is nearly 8 a.m., Alabama time.

Roland
Am learning how to translate on *your* examples - they're the hardest
I've run across.  Those hyphens "-" eat my commercial translator alive!
I'm working on adding hotlinks to formtext.

I've had my breakfast of pills, so it's out & around the block, now.

Cheers!
<G>
TomR.

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List Member "Eberhard Funck" <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de> wrote:
Hi Tom,

I am glad to see, that I could help you.
A walk in fresh air make clear your head
and after the walk you can better programming.

Now at this time, it's two a clock after midday,
I go in Mothers garden to cut the hedge and
the grass.

Good luck

Eberhard


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Datum: Samstag, 26. Juni 1999 13:13
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>List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrot=
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>Hey, Boss
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List Member "adbryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Hi Tom,
I must have missed nvscroll2. Please send when you get time.
Dale

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> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> John
> Get well!  You're needed.
>
> Eberhard
> Have a good holiday!  Check in often... you're needed, too.
>
> Bev
> Get well!  I can't pick your mind if you stay offline.
>
> Dale
> You keeping up w/ Eberhard's goodies?  This last one, nvscrol2, is
> what I've been bustin a gut to do.  Will send if you missed it.
>
> Doyle
> Gittin'er!  Up & at'em - is nearly 8 a.m., Alabama time.
>
> Roland
> Am learning how to translate on *your* examples - they're the hardest
> I've run across.  Those hyphens "-" eat my commercial translator alive!
> I'm working on adding hotlinks to formtext.
>
> I've had my breakfast of pills, so it's out & around the block, now.
>
> Cheers!
> <G>
> TomR.
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Don't forget to water the flowers!(G)
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> List Member "Eberhard Funck" <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de> wrote:
> Hi Tom,
>
> I am glad to see, that I could help you.
> A walk in fresh air make clear your head
> and after the walk you can better programming.
>
> Now at this time, it's two a clock after midday,
> I go in Mothers garden to cut the hedge and
> the grass.
>
> Good luck
>
> Eberhard
>
>
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> Betreff: Re: [gfabasic] envscrol/Eberhard
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Gitcha, Boss.

At 08:40 AM 26/06/99 -0700, you wrote:
>List Member "adbryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
>Hi Tom,
>I must have missed nvscroll2. Please send when you get time.
>Dale
>
>----- Original Message -----
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>Sent: Saturday, June 26, 1999 4:50 AM
>Subject: [gfabasic] Late morning
>
>
>> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> John
>> Get well!  You're needed.
>>
>> Eberhard
>> Have a good holiday!  Check in often... you're needed, too.
>>
>> Bev
>> Get well!  I can't pick your mind if you stay offline.
>>
>> Dale
>> You keeping up w/ Eberhard's goodies?  This last one, nvscrol2, is
>> what I've been bustin a gut to do.  Will send if you missed it.
>>
>> Doyle
>> Gittin'er!  Up & at'em - is nearly 8 a.m., Alabama time.
>>
>> Roland
>> Am learning how to translate on *your* examples - they're the hardest
>> I've run across.  Those hyphens "-" eat my commercial translator alive!
>> I'm working on adding hotlinks to formtext.
>>
>> I've had my breakfast of pills, so it's out & around the block, now.
>>
>> Cheers!
>> <G>
>> TomR.
>>
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
You try trimming the grass &/or hedge in *my* garden, you'll
be up to your buns in MUD.  We've had nearly 20 inches of rain
this month - more than 1/2 of our annual average!

The flowers (what's left of them) are hanging onto the fence for
dear life.
<G>
TomR.


At 10:25 AM 26/06/99 -0700, you wrote:
>List Member "adbryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
>Don't forget to water the flowers!(G)
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Eberhard Funck <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de>
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>Sent: Saturday, June 26, 1999 5:02 AM
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>> List Member "Eberhard Funck" <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de> wrote:
>> Hi Tom,
>>
>> I am glad to see, that I could help you.
>> A walk in fresh air make clear your head
>> and after the walk you can better programming.
>>
>> Now at this time, it's two a clock after midday,
>> I go in Mothers garden to cut the hedge and
>> the grass.
>>
>> Good luck
>>
>> Eberhard
>>
>>
>> -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----
>> Von: Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net>
>> An: gfabasic@gfa.net <gfabasic@gfa.net>
>> Datum: Samstag, 26. Juni 1999 13:13
>> Betreff: Re: [gfabasic] envscrol/Eberhard
>>
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>> >List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net>
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>> >Hey, Boss
>> >
>>
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List Member "adbryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Thank you, oh wise one. Sounds like you are making progress on your program.
Dale

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> Gitcha, Boss.
>
> At 08:40 AM 26/06/99 -0700, you wrote:
> >List Member "adbryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> >Hi Tom,
> >I must have missed nvscroll2. Please send when you get time.
> >Dale
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net>
> >To: <gfabasic@gfa.net>
> >Sent: Saturday, June 26, 1999 4:50 AM
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> >
> >
> >> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net>
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> >> John
> >> Get well!  You're needed.
> >>
> >> Eberhard
> >> Have a good holiday!  Check in often... you're needed, too.
> >>
> >> Bev
> >> Get well!  I can't pick your mind if you stay offline.
> >>
> >> Dale
> >> You keeping up w/ Eberhard's goodies?  This last one, nvscrol2, is
> >> what I've been bustin a gut to do.  Will send if you missed it.
> >>
> >> Doyle
> >> Gittin'er!  Up & at'em - is nearly 8 a.m., Alabama time.
> >>
> >> Roland
> >> Am learning how to translate on *your* examples - they're the hardest
> >> I've run across.  Those hyphens "-" eat my commercial translator alive!
> >> I'm working on adding hotlinks to formtext.
> >>
> >> I've had my breakfast of pills, so it's out & around the block, now.
> >>
> >> Cheers!
> >> <G>
> >> TomR.
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List Member GFA Online <service@gfa.net> wrote:
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Hallelujah, hallelujah, the list is up again
I miss John and Eeberhard and wonder where they've been
And to have the Tiger down and out is more than I can bear
Because the list is always busy when the Tigers' posting there.



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List Member "adbryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Eberhard Funck has sent some new files that are available for download from
the GFAWHELP web site.
LOADICON.ZIP
1. LoadIcon.gfw : Load  Icon From Disk
2. Seccast.ico
3. Link98.res
4. Link98.exe
5. Link9598.gfw

You're going to like these!

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List Member "adbryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Hi, Does anyone have a different email address for Tim Everest than the one
below?
Dale

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List Member "adbryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Dadgummit Tom, ask some questions!
Dale

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List Member "Bev & Lou Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
He is not a tiger he is a snaggle ,,,,,,,,,,puss
    -                                                 >>>>>Lou
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> List Member "adbryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> Hallelujah, hallelujah, the list is up again
> I miss John and Eeberhard and wonder where they've been
> And to have the Tiger down and out is more than I can bear
> Because the list is always busy when the Tigers' posting there.
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List Member "adbryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Snaggle puss my foot. He as ornery as they come but please don't tell him I
said so.(G)

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> List Member "Bev & Lou Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
> He is not a tiger he is a snaggle ,,,,,,,,,,puss
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
At 03:16 PM 02/07/99 -0700, you wrote:
>List Member "adbryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
>Hallelujah, hallelujah, the list is up again
>I miss John and Eeberhard and wonder where they've been
>And to have the Tiger down and out is more than I can bear
>Because the list is always busy when the Tigers' posting there.
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To: gfabasic@gfa.net
From: Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: [gfabasic] TIGER
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
At 03:35 PM 02/07/99 -0700, you wrote:
>List Member "adbryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
>Dadgummit Tom, ask some questions!
>Dale
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Here's a question... will it get an answer?  Most don't!

Doyle & I are looking into translating another non-structured BASIC
into the renown non-structured GFA-W BASIC.

Question: How to accomodate a tremendous variety of methods of presenting
a window for display.  For perhaps 1000 users, there is quite likely some
300-400 alternative methods.  Not unlike GFA-W, which seems to have at 
least 3 major methods, this one also has levels that appear to be based on
user experience.

Ideal: feed a GFA-W program the *.bas code sourse file & get a GFA-W *.lst
in return.  NO user interaction or input.  Dream on!

More practical: display the *.bas file & select bits & pieces to inject
into a basic window appl manually.  Nightmare!

OK?  Reckon it'll draw flies?  Will it lay there quivering until it dies?

<G>
TomR.

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List Member "adbryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
HI Tom,
I think I have seen a program on the web somewhere that will convert a .bas
file to a GFA BASIC file. I will see if I can find it tomorrow.
Good to have you back. Louise says your just an ol' sweetie pie. Good
grief!!
Dale

----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net>
To: <gfabasic@gfa.net>
Sent: Friday, July 02, 1999 4:47 PM
Subject: Re: [gfabasic] TIGER


> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> At 03:35 PM 02/07/99 -0700, you wrote:
> >List Member "adbryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> >Dadgummit Tom, ask some questions!
> >Dale
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> Here's a question... will it get an answer?  Most don't!
>
> Doyle & I are looking into translating another non-structured BASIC
> into the renown non-structured GFA-W BASIC.
>
> Question: How to accomodate a tremendous variety of methods of presenting
> a window for display.  For perhaps 1000 users, there is quite likely some
> 300-400 alternative methods.  Not unlike GFA-W, which seems to have at
> least 3 major methods, this one also has levels that appear to be based on
> user experience.
>
> Ideal: feed a GFA-W program the *.bas code sourse file & get a GFA-W *.lst
> in return.  NO user interaction or input.  Dream on!
>
> More practical: display the *.bas file & select bits & pieces to inject
> into a basic window appl manually.  Nightmare!
>
> OK?  Reckon it'll draw flies?  Will it lay there quivering until it dies?
>
> <G>
> TomR.
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Dale
Have it.  Sucks.  We're serious & halfway there.  We're going
at it 2 different ways... Doyle, in LB, me in GFA-W.  Doyle's
is working, but limited, yet.  Don't bother chasing down that
converter - it leaves you in DEEP ____!  Tried it out 2 yrs
ago.

Just thot we'd give it a hell of a go - just might stir up 
some new GFA-W users.  Since they started charging for help,
I can't ask GFA anything anymore.  Leaves me w/ the very
unresponsive list.  Well, their loss, eventually.  Probably
pleases many that I don't post all new findings anymore.

No, this isn't SPAM or a torch job on my part - is simple fact.
<G>
TomR.


At 06:37 PM 02/07/99 -0700, you wrote:
>List Member "adbryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
>HI Tom,
>I think I have seen a program on the web somewhere that will convert a .bas
>file to a GFA BASIC file. I will see if I can find it tomorrow.
>Good to have you back. Louise says your just an ol' sweetie pie. Good
>grief!!
>Dale
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net>
>To: <gfabasic@gfa.net>
>Sent: Friday, July 02, 1999 4:47 PM
>Subject: Re: [gfabasic] TIGER
>
>
>> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> At 03:35 PM 02/07/99 -0700, you wrote:
>> >List Member "adbryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
>> >Dadgummit Tom, ask some questions!
>> >Dale
>> >
>> >http://www.gfawhelp.gfa.net
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>> Here's a question... will it get an answer?  Most don't!
>>
>> Doyle & I are looking into translating another non-structured BASIC
>> into the renown non-structured GFA-W BASIC.
>>
>> Question: How to accomodate a tremendous variety of methods of presenting
>> a window for display.  For perhaps 1000 users, there is quite likely some
>> 300-400 alternative methods.  Not unlike GFA-W, which seems to have at
>> least 3 major methods, this one also has levels that appear to be based on
>> user experience.
>>
>> Ideal: feed a GFA-W program the *.bas code sourse file & get a GFA-W *.lst
>> in return.  NO user interaction or input.  Dream on!
>>
>> More practical: display the *.bas file & select bits & pieces to inject
>> into a basic window appl manually.  Nightmare!
>>
>> OK?  Reckon it'll draw flies?  Will it lay there quivering until it dies?
>>
>> <G>
>> TomR.
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Hi All,

I am glad to see all users again.
Dale, I have download the LOADICON.ZIP from your WEB-page.
I must correct this zip-file and send it as LOADICON1.ZIP
as attechment to all users by this way.
LOADICON1.ZIP
1. LoadIcon.gfw : Load  Icon From Disk
2. Seccast.ico
3. Link98.gfw
4. Link98.res
5. Link98.exe
6. Link9598.gfw
7. Gfa1.ico
8. Gfa2.ico
In the readme.txt I have write which source code and icons get together.

During my fasten programming I have changed too much,
so that I must correct it now.
Dale, I must thank you very much for your good work.

Greeting on all

Eberhard

>Eberhard Funck has sent some new files that are available for download from
>the GFAWHELP web site.
>LOADICON.ZIP
>1. LoadIcon.gfw : Load  Icon From Disk
>2. Seccast.ico
>3. Link98.res
>4. Link98.exe
>5. Link9598.gfw
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>You're going to like these!
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List Member "adbryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Tom, I must say that you take on some very interesting projects. Keep us
informed.
Dale

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> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Dale
> Have it.  Sucks.  We're serious & halfway there.  We're going
> at it 2 different ways... Doyle, in LB, me in GFA-W.  Doyle's
> is working, but limited, yet.  Don't bother chasing down that
> converter - it leaves you in DEEP ____!  Tried it out 2 yrs
> ago.
>
> Just thot we'd give it a hell of a go - just might stir up
> some new GFA-W users.  Since they started charging for help,
> I can't ask GFA anything anymore.  Leaves me w/ the very
> unresponsive list.  Well, their loss, eventually.  Probably
> pleases many that I don't post all new findings anymore.
>
> No, this isn't SPAM or a torch job on my part - is simple fact.
> <G>
> TomR.
>
>
> At 06:37 PM 02/07/99 -0700, you wrote:
> >List Member "adbryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> >HI Tom,
> >I think I have seen a program on the web somewhere that will convert a
.bas
> >file to a GFA BASIC file. I will see if I can find it tomorrow.
> >Good to have you back. Louise says your just an ol' sweetie pie. Good
> >grief!!
> >Dale
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net>
> >To: <gfabasic@gfa.net>
> >Sent: Friday, July 02, 1999 4:47 PM
> >Subject: Re: [gfabasic] TIGER
> >
> >
> >> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net>
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> >> At 03:35 PM 02/07/99 -0700, you wrote:
> >> >List Member "adbryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> >> >Dadgummit Tom, ask some questions!
> >> >Dale
> >> >
> >> >http://www.gfawhelp.gfa.net
> >> >
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> >> Here's a question... will it get an answer?  Most don't!
> >>
> >> Doyle & I are looking into translating another non-structured BASIC
> >> into the renown non-structured GFA-W BASIC.
> >>
> >> Question: How to accomodate a tremendous variety of methods of
presenting
> >> a window for display.  For perhaps 1000 users, there is quite likely
some
> >> 300-400 alternative methods.  Not unlike GFA-W, which seems to have at
> >> least 3 major methods, this one also has levels that appear to be based
on
> >> user experience.
> >>
> >> Ideal: feed a GFA-W program the *.bas code sourse file & get a GFA-W
*.lst
> >> in return.  NO user interaction or input.  Dream on!
> >>
> >> More practical: display the *.bas file & select bits & pieces to inject
> >> into a basic window appl manually.  Nightmare!
> >>
> >> OK?  Reckon it'll draw flies?  Will it lay there quivering until it
dies?
> >>
> >> <G>
> >> TomR.
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At 08:05 AM 03/07/99 -0700, you wrote:
>List Member "adbryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
>Tom, I must say that you take on some very interesting projects. Keep us
>informed.
>Dale
>

Dale
this'un shows promise... if successful, will be useable to translate
VB appls, too.
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List Member "adbryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Hi Tom,
That sounds really great. I hope it goes well for you. Please let us know
the progress you make.
Dale

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> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> At 08:05 AM 03/07/99 -0700, you wrote:
> >List Member "adbryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> >Tom, I must say that you take on some very interesting projects. Keep us
> >informed.
> >Dale
> >
>
> Dale
> this'un shows promise... if successful, will be useable to translate
> VB appls, too.
> <G>
> TomR.
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List Member Dean Hodgson <dhodgson@nexus.edu.au> wrote:
Dean Hodgson wrote:

> Tom Record wrote:
>
> > Here's a question... will it get an answer?  Most don't!
> >
> > Doyle & I are looking into translating another non-structured BASIC
> > into the renown non-structured GFA-W BASIC.
> >
> >
> > OK?  Reckon it'll draw flies?  Will it lay there quivering until it dies?
> >
> > <G>
> > TomR.
> >
>

What a project!!
Tom & Doyle, have a look at the GFA version of DEANSLIB. A lot of those functions
are designed to emulate LB operations as near as possible. You're biggest
problems, I think, are going to be handling the graphics window type, the Flush
statement and what it does and the direct-jumps from objects like buttons.  There
are also huge structural differences between LB and GFA.  Good luck!!





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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>What a project!!
>Tom & Doyle, have a look at the GFA version of DEANSLIB. A lot of those
functions
>are designed to emulate LB operations as near as possible. You're biggest
>problems, I think, are going to be handling the graphics window type, the Flush
>statement and what it does and the direct-jumps from objects like buttons.
There
>are also huge structural differences between LB and GFA.  Good luck!!
>

Dean
Thanks for gettin into it.

History has shown that there _must be_ someone to poke a finger into
a hole.

History also dictates that there _must be_ someone ready, willing, & 
able to joust with the windmills.

Life is aboundantly loaded with holes & windmills.  Motive here is
pretty simple & perhaps twofold.

1) Give LBers the long-desired means of compiling to *.exe.
2) Perhaps as a consequence, entice a few LBers over to GFA-W.

There is always another hole just around the corner, there is another
windmill just over the next hill.

*.exe & *.dll capability were the whole reason I blew my inheritance
on GFA-W in the first place.  I paid little mind to the quantity of
headache remedies, stomache settlers & nerve calmers my extravagance
would entail.  Oh, oh, oh...

<G>
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Dean
you're right... easing of the pain accepted with gratitude!
In my stupor I had forgotten about it.  Sorry.

Sort of "hand in hand", am working out how to let an LB prog
know an ownsub.dll button was clicked.  Am thinking along the
lines of monitoring in the *.dll & set a pointer to a string
naming the ID that was clicked.  LB should be able to check
this string in it's [Main.loop] & decode it without undue
overhead (I'd think).  Then again, I'm no longer paid to think.

Doyle
You have it?  Will send if not.

All others who upgraded Windows
Please... would someone who has upgraded Win95b over Win95a
&/or Win98 over Win95x PLEASE find the hidden directory the
upgrade made for the windows system *.dlls it swapped out?

I have a appl for this... just point it at the windows dir
& turn it loose - it will log to a file EVERYTHING it finds
in the dir.  This will get us the names of the hidden dir &
all of the *.dlls that were replaced.  It *should* be located
in the windows/system subdir, but since nobody has sent me 
the info when requested before I honestly don't know.

Locating all of this, one can swap the original *.dlls back 
into window/system & eliminate the platform version aversion
to button controls for appls written on NON-upgraded computers
& vice-versa...  There is supposed to be an MS appl there also
just to perform the re-swap.

Please - Please - Please - Please - Please - Please - ?????? !

I am absolutely unaware of anything like this in NT, sorry.

<G>
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
A window is minimized.  I want the icon to remain "ON TOP".

Can't find the call & don't remember it.  Please help.
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List Member "Eberhard Funck" <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de> wrote:
>A window is minimized.  I want the icon to remain "ON TOP".
>
>Can't find the call & don't remember it.  Please help.
>TomR.


Without commantary:
'
OPENW #1, 0, 0, 600, 400, -1
'
DO
  GETEVENT
  IF IsIconic (WIN(1))
    PAUSE 30
    ~OpenIcon (WIN(1)) <-----------
  ENDIF
UNTIL MENU(1) = 4
'
CLOSEW #1
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Eberhard, Thank you, but it isn't quite what I meant.  I don't
want to activate or restore the window, I want the icon to stay
on top of whatever else is running so it can be clicked on to 
restore it.

To illustrate...
If you run the helpfile while editing or writing an appl, you have
the option of keeping it on top if you minimize it.  This allows
you to restore it without minimizing the editor if you need to
check another item in it.

The appl I'm building won't be resizeable, so running two side by 
side or one over the other is impossible.  I want to minimize the
appl I'm working with but have the icon stay on top of the other
so it is accessable to the user.

The key phrase is "on top", but can be called "to top", also.  I've
seen it, but can't find it.  There was a recent discussion on the
subject, but I've mislabled it so I can't find that, either.  It
was also one of the corrections made in ownsub.dll's tooltips but
again, I guess I'm gling blind - I can't find even *that*.

<G>
TomR.



At 09:54 AM 06/07/99 +0200, you wrote:
>List Member "Eberhard Funck" <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de> wrote:
>>A window is minimized.  I want the icon to remain "ON TOP".
>>
>>Can't find the call & don't remember it.  Please help.
>>TomR.
>
>
>Without commantary:
>'
>OPENW #1, 0, 0, 600, 400, -1
>'
>DO
>  GETEVENT
>  IF IsIconic (WIN(1))
>    PAUSE 30
>    ~OpenIcon (WIN(1)) <-----------
>  ENDIF
>UNTIL MENU(1) = 4
>'
>CLOSEW #1
>END
>
>
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List Member "Eberhard Funck" <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de> wrote:
Hi Tom,

'
OPENW #1, 0, 0, 0, 0, -1
'
HWND_TOPMOST& = -1
~SetWindowPos (WIN(1), HWND_TOPMOST&, 0, 0, 600, 400, SWP_NOMOVE)
'
DO
  GETEVENT
UNTIL MENU(1) = 4
'
CLOSEW #1
END

Is that, what you mean?

Eberhard

>List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>Eberhard, Thank you, but it isn't quite what I meant.  I don't
>want to activate or restore the window, I want the icon to stay
>on top of whatever else is running so it can be clicked on to 
>restore it.
>
>To illustrate...
>If you run the helpfile while editing or writing an appl, you have
>the option of keeping it on top if you minimize it.  This allows
>you to restore it without minimizing the editor if you need to
>check another item in it.
>
>The appl I'm building won't be resizeable, so running two side by 
>side or one over the other is impossible.  I want to minimize the
>appl I'm working with but have the icon stay on top of the other
>so it is accessable to the user.
>
>The key phrase is "on top", but can be called "to top", also.  I've
>seen it, but can't find it.  There was a recent discussion on the
>subject, but I've mislabled it so I can't find that, either.  It
>was also one of the corrections made in ownsub.dll's tooltips but
>again, I guess I'm gling blind - I can't find even *that*.
>


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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Eberhard

ABSOLUTELY !!!
I thank you.  My wife thanks you.  My dad thanks you.  My daughter
thanks you.  The list will probably thank you.

All joking aside, thank you very much!  Perhaps my injured sanity
will now heal a bit.

The temperature has been low & it has rained a lot here but now it
is around 38=B0C every day & the air is about as wet as it can be.

Dale... did you make note of Eberhard's snippet?  It deserves a home
in your helpfile!

<G>
TomR.


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>List Member "Eberhard Funck" <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de> wrote:
>Hi Tom,
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>'
>OPENW #1, 0, 0, 0, 0, -1
>'
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>~SetWindowPos (WIN(1), HWND_TOPMOST&, 0, 0, 600, 400, SWP_NOMOVE)
>'
>DO
>  GETEVENT
>UNTIL MENU(1) =3D 4
>'
>CLOSEW #1
>END
>
>Is that, what you mean?
>
>Eberhard
>
>>List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>>Eberhard, Thank you, but it isn't quite what I meant.  I don't
>>want to activate or restore the window, I want the icon to stay
>>on top of whatever else is running so it can be clicked on to=20
>>restore it.
>>
>>To illustrate...
>>If you run the helpfile while editing or writing an appl, you have
>>the option of keeping it on top if you minimize it.  This allows
>>you to restore it without minimizing the editor if you need to
>>check another item in it.
>>
>>The appl I'm building won't be resizeable, so running two side by=20
>>side or one over the other is impossible.  I want to minimize the
>>appl I'm working with but have the icon stay on top of the other
>>so it is accessable to the user.
>>
>>The key phrase is "on top", but can be called "to top", also.  I've
>>seen it, but can't find it.  There was a recent discussion on the
>>subject, but I've mislabled it so I can't find that, either.  It
>>was also one of the corrections made in ownsub.dll's tooltips but
>>again, I guess I'm gling blind - I can't find even *that*.
>>
>
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List Member Rainer_und_Silvia@t-online.de (Rainer Henke) wrote:
Hallo Eberhardt

can you or everywhere tell me who I can find Books over GFA-BASIC hows
written in German ?

Over ATARI GFA-BASIC was at DATA BECKER or MARKT und TECHNIK but not for
WINDOWS.

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List Member "Eberhard Funck" <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de> wrote:
Hallo Silvia and Rainer,

I work by beginning with programming in
GFA Basic for Windows with the english books
"Power Programming in Windows using GFA Basic"
(Volume 1 and 2).
GFA had said, that this books will be translate in
german language.
But this is 5 years ago. Write GFA an email and ask them.
email: info@gfa.net
I have not seen a german book about GFA Basic in
all great book shops in whole Germany.

But if you work with an english book about GFA Basic
like the both from GFA, it's good understandible
and I have learned many thinks for my english.

Eberhard

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>List Member Rainer_und_Silvia@t-online.de (Rainer Henke) wrote:
>Hallo Eberhardt
>
>can you or everywhere tell me who I can find Books over GFA-BASIC hows
>written in German ?
>
>Over ATARI GFA-BASIC was at DATA BECKER or MARKT und TECHNIK but not for
>WINDOWS.
>
>Rainer
>
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List Member Rainer_und_Silvia@t-online.de (Rainer Henke) wrote:
Dear Eberhard

Thanks for informations.

Rainer

One question:
I've a problem with SubOwn.dll. In the Help-File was declared, how I can
changed the Toolbuttons with "IDB_SUB_SMALL_COLOR << 8 | SUB_INFO" .

My question is: Where must I put this order in a programm that I can chan=
ged
the Buttons.

Rainer
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List Member "Eberhard Funck" <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de> wrote:
Hallo Silvia and Rainer,

I work by beginning with programming in
GFA Basic for Windows with the english books
"Power Programming in Windows using GFA Basic"
(Volume 1 and 2).
GFA had said, that this books will be translate in
german language.
But this is 5 years ago. Write GFA an email and ask them.
email: info@gfa.net
I have not seen a german book about GFA Basic in
all great book shops in whole Germany.

But if you work with an english book about GFA Basic
like the both from GFA, it's good understandible
and I have learned many thinks for my english.

Eberhard

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>List Member Rainer_und_Silvia@t-online.de (Rainer Henke) wrote:
>Hallo Eberhardt
>
>can you or everywhere tell me who I can find Books over GFA-BASIC hows
>written in German ?
>
>Over ATARI GFA-BASIC was at DATA BECKER or MARKT und TECHNIK but not for
>WINDOWS.
>
>Rainer
>
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Hi Tom,
I had to re-format again. Second time in a couple of months. I lost a ton of
stuff. Would you mind refresing my memory or perhaps send Eberhards snippet
to me. I don't want to miss anything from him.
Dale

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Eberhard

ABSOLUTELY !!!
I thank you.  My wife thanks you.  My dad thanks you.  My daughter
thanks you.  The list will probably thank you.

All joking aside, thank you very much!  Perhaps my injured sanity
will now heal a bit.

The temperature has been low & it has rained a lot here but now it
is around 38C every day & the air is about as wet as it can be.

Dale... did you make note of Eberhard's snippet?  It deserves a home
in your helpfile!

<G>
TomR.


At 01:44 PM 06/07/99 +0200, you wrote:
>List Member "Eberhard Funck" <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de> wrote:
>Hi Tom,
>
>'
>OPENW #1, 0, 0, 0, 0, -1
>'
>HWND_TOPMOST& = -1
>~SetWindowPos (WIN(1), HWND_TOPMOST&, 0, 0, 600, 400, SWP_NOMOVE)
>'
>DO
>  GETEVENT
>UNTIL MENU(1) = 4
>'
>CLOSEW #1
>END
>
>Is that, what you mean?
>
>Eberhard
>
>>List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>>Eberhard, Thank you, but it isn't quite what I meant.  I don't
>>want to activate or restore the window, I want the icon to stay
>>on top of whatever else is running so it can be clicked on to
>>restore it.
>>
>>To illustrate...
>>If you run the helpfile while editing or writing an appl, you have
>>the option of keeping it on top if you minimize it.  This allows
>>you to restore it without minimizing the editor if you need to
>>check another item in it.
>>
>>The appl I'm building won't be resizeable, so running two side by
>>side or one over the other is impossible.  I want to minimize the
>>appl I'm working with but have the icon stay on top of the other
>>so it is accessable to the user.
>>
>>The key phrase is "on top", but can be called "to top", also.  I've
>>seen it, but can't find it.  There was a recent discussion on the
>>subject, but I've mislabled it so I can't find that, either.  It
>>was also one of the corrections made in ownsub.dll's tooltips but
>>again, I guess I'm gling blind - I can't find even *that*.
>>
>
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Sorry to hear about the crash.

OPENW #1, 0, 0, 0, 0, -1
'
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>List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
>Hi Tom,
>I had to re-format again. Second time in a couple of months. I lost a ton=
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>stuff. Would you mind refresing my memory or perhaps send Eberhards snippet
>to me. I don't want to miss anything from him.
>Dale
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net>
>To: <gfabasic@gfa.net>
>Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 1999 5:45 AM
>Subject: Re: [gfabasic] misery... vs RELIEF
>
>
>List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>Eberhard
>
>ABSOLUTELY !!!
>I thank you.  My wife thanks you.  My dad thanks you.  My daughter
>thanks you.  The list will probably thank you.
>
>All joking aside, thank you very much!  Perhaps my injured sanity
>will now heal a bit.
>
>The temperature has been low & it has rained a lot here but now it
>is around 38=B0C every day & the air is about as wet as it can be.
>
>Dale... did you make note of Eberhard's snippet?  It deserves a home
>in your helpfile!
>
><G>
>TomR.
>
>
>At 01:44 PM 06/07/99 +0200, you wrote:
>>List Member "Eberhard Funck" <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de> wrote:
>>Hi Tom,
>>
>>'
>>OPENW #1, 0, 0, 0, 0, -1
>>'
>>HWND_TOPMOST& =3D -1
>>~SetWindowPos (WIN(1), HWND_TOPMOST&, 0, 0, 600, 400, SWP_NOMOVE)
>>'
>>DO
>>  GETEVENT
>>UNTIL MENU(1) =3D 4
>>'
>>CLOSEW #1
>>END
>>
>>Is that, what you mean?
>>
>>Eberhard
>>
>>>List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net>=
 wrote:
>>>Eberhard, Thank you, but it isn't quite what I meant.  I don't
>>>want to activate or restore the window, I want the icon to stay
>>>on top of whatever else is running so it can be clicked on to
>>>restore it.
>>>
>>>To illustrate...
>>>If you run the helpfile while editing or writing an appl, you have
>>>the option of keeping it on top if you minimize it.  This allows
>>>you to restore it without minimizing the editor if you need to
>>>check another item in it.
>>>
>>>The appl I'm building won't be resizeable, so running two side by
>>>side or one over the other is impossible.  I want to minimize the
>>>appl I'm working with but have the icon stay on top of the other
>>>so it is accessable to the user.
>>>
>>>The key phrase is "on top", but can be called "to top", also.  I've
>>>seen it, but can't find it.  There was a recent discussion on the
>>>subject, but I've mislabled it so I can't find that, either.  It
>>>was also one of the corrections made in ownsub.dll's tooltips but
>>>again, I guess I'm gling blind - I can't find even *that*.
>>>
>>
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Please

Would anyone who has upgraded Win95 over Win95 or who has
upgraded to Win98 over Win95 *please* send me a copy of 
the winver.exe from the windows\ directory?

Please, when you zip it, please put your initials in the
*.zip filename so I can keep them separate in case two 
are received at the same time.

I would also like to send upgraders a routine that will 
write a file, logging all in the window\ dir.  My only
interest is to locate & identify the hidden dir the
upgrade made & get the names of the system *.dlls that
were swapped out by the upgrade.  I'm not looking for
any secrets you might wish to keep.  I really think the
hidden dir will be in windows\system, but can not be sure.

Thank you.
<G>
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Would someone running Win3.11 (WFWG) please send me a copy of their
winver.exe?  Zip & name it with your initials, please.

Would someone running WinNT please send me a copy of their
winver.exe?  Zip & name it with your initials, please.

If anybody is running OS/2... Well, I don't know if *that* will have
a winver.exe, but if it does, Please, I need one from that, also.
Again, zip it with your initials as the *.zip's name.

Sorry to bother, but I don't have all of the documentation necessary
to do what I'm doing, but I can do it if I can get the files to look
into.

Thanks, everybody.
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Ok, Gang
I've received winver.exe for:
Win3.1 on DOS
Win3.1 on NT4
Win3.1 on OS/2
Win3.11 WFWG on DOS
Win95a on DOS
Win98 OEM on DOS
Win98 ug-over-98 on DOS

I have a log of a 98 upgrade over 95 coming.

Hopefully, we'll see some real progress shortly.
Thanks for helping.
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Win3.11 WFWG on DOS

MZ
Windows for Workgroups Version 3.11
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Win95a on DOS

MZ
Windows 95
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WinVerT
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Win3.1 on NT4

MZ
This program cannot be run in DOS mode.
Windows Version  3.10
USER32.dll
SHELL32.dll
KERNEL32.dll
NTDLL.DLL
P116runtime error
TLOSS error
SING error
DOMAIN error
R6028- unable to initialize heap
R6027- not enough space for lowio initialization
R6026- not enough space for stdio initialization
R6025- pure virtual function call
R6024- not enough space for _onexit/atexit table
R6019- unable to open console device
R6018- unexpected heap error
R6017- unexpected multithread lock error
R6016- not enough space for thread dataabnormal program termination
R6009- not enough space for environment
R6008- not enough space for arguments
R6002- floating point not loaded
Microsoft Visual C++ Runtime Library
Runtime Error!Program: ...<program name unknown>
GetLastActivePopup
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user32.dll
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GetEnvironmentStrings
WideCharToMultiByte
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GetOEMCP
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GetFileType
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KERNEL32.dll
4
VS_VERSION_INFO
StringFileInfo  040904B0
CompanyName  Microsoft Corporation
FileDescription  Version Reporter Applet
FileVersion  4.00
InternalName  winver
LegalCopyright  Copyright (C) Microsoft Corp. 1981-1996
OriginalFilename  WINVER.EXE
ProductName  Microsoft(R) Windows NT(TM) Operating System.
ProductVersion  4.00
VarFileInfo
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Want a quick, slick, easy method to check your Windows version?

Just run winver.exe.  Of course, it doesn't come in a copyable
form - it's a dialog.

<G>
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Hi Tom,
Here is another routine.
db

'SetWindowPos()


'  SetWindowPos()  :PRIMARY
'  code by Greg Irwin
TITLEW #1,"Window 1"
TITLEW #3,"Window 3"
FULLW #1
OPENW #3,200,300,200,100,-1
hWnd&=WIN(3)

MakeWindowTopmost(hWnd&)
DO
  GET_EVENT
  EXIT IF MENU(1)=4
LOOP
CLOSEW #1
CLOSEW #3
END
PROCEDURE MakeWindowTopmost(hWnd&)
  LOCAL SWP_NOSIZE&
  LOCAL SWP_NOMOVE&
  LOCAL HWND_TOPMOST&
  LOCAL Flags&
  SWP_NOSIZE& = &H1
  SWP_NOMOVE& = &H2
  HWND_TOPMOST& = -1

  Flags& = SWP_NOMOVE OR SWP_NOSIZE
  ~SetWindowPos(hWnd&, HWND_TOPMOST&, 0, 0, 0, 0, Flags&)
  RETVAL 0
RETURN


Routines Collected and Compiled By Dale Bryant



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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Can anyone help this person? His email address is at teh bottom.
db


Hi, ich mchte ein Dialogfenster machen, in dem mehrere kleine
Editfensterchen zur
Eingabe von Maen erscheinen sollen.
Die sollen aber nur aktiv sein wenn sie gebraucht werden - also je
nachdem was
fr eine Bezeichnung im 1. Edit eingegeben wird sollen die anderen dann
EDIT oder
STATIC sein -
BSP:
    Bez.     Breite     Hhe    Lnge    Radius
    [   ]       [   ]        [    ]      [    ]        [     ]

Ist Bez. = K dann brauche ich nur Breite,Hhe und Lnge
Ist Bez. = BS dann brauche ich auch noch den Radius
und das mit noch mehr Maen ...

Ich hab das nur so hinbekommen, da ich je nach Bez. das EDIT
mit DestroyWindow lsche und ein neues STATIC aufmache und umgekehrt
Das Problem hierbei ist aber, da dann die Reihenfolge des Tabstops
nicht
mehr stimmt :-(
Wie kann ich das umgehen ?
Kann ich den Windowhandels eine Reihenfolge fr Tabstop aufzwingen
oder die EDIT-Fenster nur inaktiv und wieder aktiv schalten ???

Bitte helft mir !

CU, Martin-Otto@t-online.de





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Dale Bryant schrieb:
>=20
> List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> Can anyone help this person? His email address is at teh bottom.
> db
>=20
> Hi, ich m=F6chte ein Dialogfenster machen, in dem mehrere kleine
> Editfensterchen zur
> Eingabe von Ma=DFen erscheinen sollen.
> Die sollen aber nur aktiv sein wenn sie gebraucht werden - also je
> nachdem was
> f=FCr eine Bezeichnung im 1. Edit eingegeben wird sollen die anderen da=
nn
> EDIT oder
> STATIC sein -
> BSP:
>     Bez.     Breite     H=F6he    L=E4nge    Radius
>     [   ]       [   ]        [    ]      [    ]        [     ]
>=20
> Ist Bez. =3D K dann brauche ich nur Breite,H=F6he und L=E4nge
> Ist Bez. =3D BS dann brauche ich auch noch den Radius
> und das mit noch mehr Ma=DFen ...
>=20
> Ich hab das nur so hinbekommen, da=DF ich je nach Bez. das EDIT
> mit DestroyWindow l=F6sche und ein neues STATIC aufmache und umgekehrt
> Das Problem hierbei ist aber, da=DF dann die Reihenfolge des Tabstops
> nicht
> mehr stimmt :-(
> Wie kann ich das umgehen ?
> Kann ich den Windowhandels eine Reihenfolge f=FCr Tabstop aufzwingen
> oder die EDIT-Fenster nur inaktiv und wieder aktiv schalten ???
>=20
> Bitte helft mir !
>=20
> CU, Martin-Otto@t-online.de

Hallo,

das ganze sollte kein Problem sein, wenn Du den Befehl (ENABLEDW bzw.
DISABLEDW) von GFA-BASIC verwendest.
Kleine DEMO als Anlage.

Frank Sch=FCtze
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List Member Bueckmann.W@t-online.de (Bueckmann.W) wrote:
I like to create a listbox, like in the "explorer" on WIN95, with a short=
=20
graphic in it and with the changeable menue on top. Does somebody have fu=
rther=20
information how to do ( handle ) this ??

How can I put a Checkbox within a Listboxentry ?? ( like in the Backup Pr=
ogramm=20
W95 )

If you have a example it were very helpfull.

Thanks in advance !!

Regards / M.f.G.     Wilhelm B=FCckmann
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List Member Jim Pennington <Jim@x-act.net> wrote:
I'm beginning to get a "handle" (pun intended) on the open file
problem, but I still don't know how to fix it. Any help would certainly
be appreciated.

Facts:
1. Using "OPEN", "Too Many Open Files" message occurs on 16th file.
2. Using "_lopen", message occurs on 20th file.
3. SetHandleCount(big number) fixes #2, but not #1.
4. "FILES" setting in config.sys seems to have no effect (set at 100).
5. Mixing 1 and 2 gives interesting results, and the problem seems to be
this: the error occurs if "OPEN" returns a windows handle >=20,
regardless of how many files you opened with "OPEN". Note that the reason
that "OPEN" fails on 16th file in #1 is that the handles returned begin
with 5, not 1.

Is there a fix for this, or am I just faced with a messy rewrite of all
the file i/o code?

Jim Pennington



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List Member Jim Pennington <Jim@x-act.net> wrote:
Anthony,

Long time no see... not since my early Atari days (Recipes and all).

The problem here is not only conversion time, but the likelyhood of
introducing bugs, gnats, and flies into a well-running program that is
used in a daily production environment! While opening a file, reading a
random data record, and then closing it would solve the problem (and
would have some side benefits), it would be painfully slow in this
application. It would also be a more massive rewrite than just converting
to "_lopen", etc. There are some other options if we're going to talk
about that much change; most of the files are small and could just be
read and kept in memory, but, again, that involves philosophical and
logical changes that I feel should be avoided at this time.

Bottom line... am I stuck with 15 files using "OPEN"? Is this documented
somewhere? Maybe in the same place as the _real_ limit on the max number
of fields in a "FIELD" statement?   :)

Jim Pennington


>List Member Anthony Watson <awatson@pacifier.com> wrote:
.
.
.

>If I have to manage multiple files I'll save a pointer to the last used
>location in the file. For instance, I'll open a file, read some data,
>save the pointer, close the file, then do whatever I need to with the
>data. When I need more data I open the file, seek to the pointer
>location, read more data, save the new pointer, and close the file
>again. In other words, the file is only open when I'm actually sending
>or receiving data.
>
>Maybe that's just my personal technique, but I would recommend a rewrite
>of your i/o code, even though it can be a major undertaking...
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List Member Jim Pennington <Jim@x-act.net> wrote:
>
> List Member mechanic <mechanic@sonet.net> wrote: 
>
> I think DOS (and therefore, Win 16) only allows 20 files opened maximum.

In theory, 20 files is the _default_ maximum, and may be changed with the
"FILES=" line in config.sys. It even says that in the GFA Basic
Reference Manual under the "Too Many Open Files" error. I can open 100
files using SetHandleCount(100) and _lopen (a DOS call), but it has no
effect on "OPEN".

The curious thing is that this is an operating system error message, but
I think it's a GFA limitation. I get the same results, by the way, with
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
So.

There has been a surprisingly good response to my request for
winver.exe & the logging of the windows\ directory.

It covers W3.1, W3.11 WFWG, W95a, W95b, W95(OEM & UGover), W98
(OEM & UGover).  I have a response from an OS/2 user & an NT4
user.

I regret to report that after hours of going thru all of this,
I cannot point to any differences but in timestamp.  The names
logged are pretty much the same thruout.

Only the winver.exe breakdowns are very different but the fact 
of any version differences between OEM & UGover is not to be
detected by my simple procedures.

One machine incapable of showing buttons, etc., written on W95a
reports being 4.00.950, just as does the W95a.  All W98 machines
report 4.10.1998, whether OEM or UGover.

Some knowledge I need I do not have.

I yield.
TomR.

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List Member Jim Pennington <Jim@x-act.net> wrote:
Anthony,

When I wrote the application, I tried to compromise between file count
and wasted space. Depending on the client, any given file could be
empty, or be a few megabytes long. Each file contains a completely
different type of data with a different field layout and record length.
During file edits, data entry, and processing, there are rarely more than
a few files open at once. The exception is report printing, where all
this data gets merged together, and, for a couple of minutes, I actually
have 16 open at once (yeah, I just missed by 1!). In the future, with
enhancements, the number could go up.

Trivia for the day: The file limit on the Atari is 26.

Jim Pennington


> List Member Anthony Watson <awatson@pacifier.com> wrote:
> Jim,
> .
> .
> .
> I don't know if it would apply to your situation or not, but you might
> be able to combine multiple small files into a single larger file?
>
> > Bottom line... am I stuck with 15 files using "OPEN"?
>
> To be honest, I have no idea. It never even occurred to me to open that
> many files at once, so I've never tried it. Can't help you there.
> Sorry.
>



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List Member Anthony Watson <awatson@pacifier.com> wrote:
Jim,

> "Too Many Open Files" message occurs

> Is there a fix for this, or am I just faced with a messy rewrite

Personally, I can't see a reason to have 16 (or more) files open at the
same time. I generally only have 2 files open at once, one for reading,
and one for writing. On very rare occasions I might open a third file.
Most of the time I only have a single file open at any one time.

If I have to manage multiple files I'll save a pointer to the last used
location in the file. For instance, I'll open a file, read some data, save
the pointer, close the file, then do whatever I need to with the data.
When I need more data I open the file, seek to the pointer location, read
more data, save the new pointer, and close the file again. In other words,
the file is only open when I'm actually sending or receiving data.

Maybe that's just my personal technique, but I would recommend a rewrite
of your i/o code, even though it can be a major undertaking...

Just my 2 cents...

Take care,

Anthony Watson
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List Member mechanic <mechanic@sonet.net> wrote:
Jim Pennington wrote:
> 
> List Member Jim Pennington <Jim@x-act.net> wrote:
> I'm beginning to get a "handle" (pun intended) on the open file
> problem, but I still don't know how to fix it. Any help would certainly
> be appreciated.
> 
> Facts:
> 1. Using "OPEN", "Too Many Open Files" message occurs on 16th file.
> 2. Using "_lopen", message occurs on 20th file.

I think DOS (and therefore, Win 16) only allows 20 files opened maximum.


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List Member Anthony Watson <awatson@pacifier.com> wrote:
Jim,

> Long time no see... not since my early Atari days (Recipes and all).

Yeah, it's been a while since the Atari, but I'm still writing recipe
software! Ha. Ha.

> most of the files are small and could just be read and kept in memory

That was going to be my other suggestion, but I wasn't sure what type of
files you were dealing with. I mean, you wouldn't want to load twenty
10-Meg files into memory... Ha. Ha.

I don't know if it would apply to your situation or not, but you might be
able to combine multiple small files into a single larger file?

> Bottom line... am I stuck with 15 files using "OPEN"?

To be honest, I have no idea. It never even occurred to me to open that
many files at once, so I've never tried it. Can't help you there. Sorry.

Anthony Watson
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List Member Dean Hodgson <dhodgson@nexus.edu.au> wrote:


Jim Pennington wrote:

> List Member Jim Pennington <Jim@x-act.net> wrote:
> I'm beginning to get a "handle" (pun intended) on the open file
> problem, but I still don't know how to fix it. Any help would certainly
> be appreciated.
>
> Facts:
> 1. Using "OPEN", "Too Many Open Files" message occurs on 16th file.
> 2. Using "_lopen", message occurs on 20th file.
> 3. SetHandleCount(big number) fixes #2, but not #1.
> 4. "FILES" setting in config.sys seems to have no effect (set at 100).
> 5. Mixing 1 and 2 gives interesting results, and the problem seems to be
> this: the error occurs if "OPEN" returns a windows handle >=20,
> regardless of how many files you opened with "OPEN". Note that the reason
> that "OPEN" fails on 16th file in #1 is that the handles returned begin
> with 5, not 1.
>
> Is there a fix for this, or am I just faced with a messy rewrite of all
> the file i/o code?
>
> Jim Pennington
>

Basically, DOS has a limit of 15 file handles open at the same time. You
cannot have more than this.
Windows allows more open via _lopen as you've discovered. So my guess is that
GFA is using Dos calls for file handling rather than the API calls. I've
changed most of my cose to using the API calls for file handling, even though
there is more work involved, because it seems to be a bit faster and it is
easier to trap errors.

I don't know of an easy solution to this. However, I have also found it good
practice to have the minimum number of files open at a time, and keeping
files closed when not in use. So basically a file is opened, used, then
closed quickly. This is particularly important when sharing files on
networks.

Dean Hodgson

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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
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Old dumb Dale Bryant has lost all of his programming icons. If you have any
that you can share attach them in a .ZIP file to
adbryant@gfa.net

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List Member "Afonso Gustavo B. Martins" <afonsogustavo@abordo.com.br> wro=
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Hi,
You lose some icons? What icons did you lost?
(I can extract icons from any prg with an old norton utility, if you can=B4=
t)
Gustavo


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> List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
My thanks to the Tiger for all the icons that he sent. What a sweetheart!



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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
HI Alfonso,
I lost all that I had. Tome Record sent a bunch so I am OK.
Dale

----- Original Message -----
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> List Member "Afonso Gustavo B. Martins" <afonsogustavo@abordo.com.br>
wrote:
> Hi,
> You lose some icons? What icons did you lost?
> (I can extract icons from any prg with an old norton utility, if you
cant)
> Gustavo
>
>
> Dale Bryant wrote:
>
> > List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> > Now listen up!(G)
> >
> > Old dumb Dale Bryant has lost all of his programming icons. If you have
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> > that you can share attach them in a .ZIP file to
> > adbryant@gfa.net
> >
> > Thanks so very much.
> > Dale
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List Member Michael Weigand <michael-weigand@foni.net> wrote:
Hi!

I just tested several GFA Basic programs on Windows 2000. They usually work
fine unless they use some Win32 features. Seems like the programs think
that they run on Windows 3.1.

Some things that don't work:

- statusbar control
- progressbar control
- DLG OPEN/SAVE with OFN_LONGFILENAMES


BTW: The GFA Basic interpreter itself seems to work fine, too.

BTW/2: OwnSub.dll does not crash on Win2k as it does on Win98


M!chael


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Hi.

I have a problem with simulation pressing keyboard. I wrote programm to =
simulation, but it simulation pressing only in the GFABASIC:
=20
DO
  PEEKEVENT
  POSTMESSAGE (-1 or $FFFF) - I don't know, WM_SYSKEYUP,65,0
LOOP

This short resident programm pressing the CHR$(65) - "A" but only in =
GFABASIC window(s). If you can help me, please do it. Please send me =
resident example programm to simulate pressing keyboard to all open =
windows in system (and/or in MS-DOS programmes open in Windows system). =
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Peter.

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List Member "Bev & Lou Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
Morning:

Can anyone out there in GFA land show me a way to get the info from a disk
sector, especially with the new FATs; I'm using the following but it gives
me the same info for all my drives. Sadly, all my drives are now 32-bit
FATs.

  buf$ = SPACE$(numsec * 512)
  temp$ = SPACE$(10)
  adr = V:temp$
  LONG{adr} = xsec
  WORD{adr + 4} = numsec
  LONG{adr + 6} = V:buf$
  _DS = HIWORD(V:temp$)
  _BX = LOWORD(V:temp$)
  ' ~INTR($25,_AL = dsk - 1,_CX = $FFFF,_DX = xsec)  /* used with 12- &
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  ~INTR($21,_AX = $7305,_DL = dsk,_CX = $FFFF,_DX = xsec,_SI = 0)

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Micha=B3 Sejfried schrieb:
> Hi.
>
> I have a problem with simulation pressing keyboard. I wrote programm to
>  simulation, but it simulation pressing only in the GFABASIC:
> =20
> DO
>   PEEKEVENT
>   POSTMESSAGE (-1 or $FFFF) - I don't know, WM_SYSKEYUP,65,0
> LOOP
>
> This short resident programm pressing the CHR$(65) - "A" but only in GF=
ABASIC
>  window(s). If you can help me, please do it. Please send me resident e=
xample
>  programm to simulate pressing keyboard to all open windows in system (=
and/or
>  in MS-DOS programmes open in Windows system). Thanks.
>
> Peter.
>
> My E-mail adress:
>
> 42810730@pro.onet.pl
>
>

HI Micha=20

Play with this=20

Willi


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List Member "Frank Wedekind" <Frank.Wedekind@wekisoft.de> wrote:
Who can help me?
I would like read any variables from the "Registry".
Example: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Software/Handwerk
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List Member "Andras Szalay" <a.szalay@mail.matav.hu> wrote:
I am calculating FFTs from very large data arrays. I recognized
that GFA WIN 4.38 does not allow to define a byte array of 
larger than m%=16711678 bytes, or 
00000000111111101111111111111110 as binary number.
Accordingly, an array of & cannot be more than m%/2, and
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List Member Fietkau <c0028901@nwn.de> wrote:
Hi,
i want to manipulate a windows-bitmap without using the standard windows
functions.
Is there a way to get the physical memory-adress (not the handle )of the
bitmap ?

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List Member "Roland Walter" <alibaba@zedat.fu-berlin.de> wrote:
'HARDPORT.LST: Data I/O direct by hardware ports
'(C) Roland Walter, alibaba@zedat.fu-berlin.de
'
'Sometimes it is usefull to work directly with hardware ports instead 
of Windows API functions.
'You should only do this if You need Highspeed I/O or the Windows 
API is REALLY not
'usefull fort Your task.
'An example:
'You like to put out the character "H" to LPT1 via hardware port. 
Mostly the hardware address
'of LPT1 is $0378. Sou You can do the job with
'         OUT| PORT $0378,ASC("H")
'But on different machines You can have different addresses. May 
be the user has set
'the address $0278 as port address of LPT1 for example. It's not 
the job of Your users
'to determine the correct address. This listing shows the way You 
can go. It's a very simple
'and fast way.
'This routine works well with GFA-Basic DOS and Windows
'Also You can use it under DOS, Windows 3.x and Windows 9x. It 
will NOT work under NT.
'
'The BIOS stores the needed values at fixed addresses when 
booting. Here is a small
'listing with some of the available addresses You can read out:
'$0040:0000   COM1 port address
'$0040:0002   COM2 port address
'$0040:0004   COM3 port address
'$0040:0005   COM4 port address
'$0040:0008   LPT1 port address
'$0040:000A   LPT2 port address
'$0040:000C   LPT3 port address
'$0040:000C   LPT4 port address

OPENW #1
'Get Port addresses:
adrPortLPT1&=WORD{MAKELONG($40,$08)}
adrPortLPT2&=WORD{MAKELONG($40,$0A)}
adrPortLPT3&=WORD{MAKELONG($40,$0C)}
PRINT "LPT1 port address: $"+HEX$(adrPortLPT1&,4)
'Note that the address is set to 0 if the port does not exist.
'
'And now we put out some characters to LPT1:
'
FOR i|=$41 TO $5A  'characters A...Z
  OUT| PORT adrPortLPT1&,i|
NEXT i|
PRINT "The characters A...Z should be printed ot to LPT1"
KEYGET Dummy%
CLOSEW #1
'More Information You will find in Ralf Brown's interrupt list wich 
You can
'find on several places in Internet (also as Windows Help file).
'
'A last remark:
'If possible then do NOT use direct hardware access under 
Windows.
'Nobody knows what Microsoft will do in the next Windows 
version...

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List Member "Eberhard Funck" <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de> wrote:

>List Member Fietkau <c0028901@nwn.de> wrote:
>Hi,
>i want to manipulate a windows-bitmap without using the standard windows
>functions.
>Is there a way to get the physical memory-adress (not the handle )of the
>bitmap ?
>
>Manfred


Hi Manfred,

If you mean GetBitmapBits() or GetBitmapBits() as standard
windows functions, than the only way to manipulate a bitmap is,
to look in my "Bitmap.exe" application in Dales downloadpage.


Its a easy work to load a bitmap in a own memory block
and manipulate the bitmap byte for byte there.

I have done it in my application for sizing, rotation and much more.

But to explane it here step for step, it is too difficult.

Greetings

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List Member "Bev & Lou Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
Morning Guys:

Anyone else interested????

                                                   ->Bev<--


Ever want to animate Windows dialog boxes? Try AVI ASSISTANT, a DLL that
works with multiple languages and animations. Each dialog can have three
separate animations: one for error messages, one for questions, and one
for the idle state that appears after ten seconds without user
interaction. The animation is chosen from the button definitions, and
window position is saved when the dialog is closed. The DLL includes a
C/C++ interface and ActiveX interface for Visual Basic, Delphi, and Java,
as well as Excel, Word, and other apps. It's also freeware, and source
code is available. Animate away:

http://www.download.com/DD/ax/0,302,0-0713-1-004,00.html





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List Member "Karl-Heinz Groene" <0592135705@nwn.de> wrote:
Hi to all,
the following example is from VBA (Excel 97)-Help
'***************************************
Dim Ergebnis, I
Ergebnis = Shell("CALC.EXE", 1) 
AppActivate Ergebnis  
For I = 1 To 100 
 SendKeys I & "{+}", True 
Next I 
SendKeys "=", True 
SendKeys "%{F4}"
'******************************************
looking for translation to GFA-Basic !!!!
is there an easy way to do the same in GFA-Basic ???
... or ist it better to keep on with  Visual Basic ?

regards
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List Member "EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" <JoeHurst@snafu.de> wrote:
> the following example is from VBA (Excel 97)-Help

Ergebnis=Shell...
AppActivate...

must be translated to WinExec...+FindWindow.
If the handle is gotten by FindWindow, you need "ActivateWindow". Then
SendMessage with Keycodes should work.

>... or ist it better to keep on with  Visual Basic ?
This is never the best solution, but sometimes it is a quick one :-(

Byte, Joe


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List Member Michael Weigand <michael-weigand@foni.net> wrote:
Hi!

Some weeks ago I wrote some mails in which I described nasty system crashes
caused by the OwnSub.DLL: run several programs using OwnSub.DLL, close the
first one ==> the system crashes.

Yesterday I converted the DLL source into subroutines that can be loaded
and run in the interpreter, so there's no need for compiling the DLL after
each change made to it.

This made it easy to play around with the code and so I discovered what's
responsible for the nasty crashes: It's the CB_HOOK_MouseProc callback
procedure.

With that CB disabled everything runs without crashing. But the CB is
needed by the DLL for some things, like releasing a pressed button,
displaying a tooltip and so on.

I hope I can make changes to CB_HOOK_MouseProc in order to make it run
without problems. But I am no programming expert, so it may take a while...


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HI Michael,
I hope that you are successful. Please keep us informed.
Dale

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> List Member Michael Weigand <michael-weigand@foni.net> wrote:
> Hi!
>
> Some weeks ago I wrote some mails in which I described nasty system
crashes
> caused by the OwnSub.DLL: run several programs using OwnSub.DLL, close the
> first one ==> the system crashes.
>
> Yesterday I converted the DLL source into subroutines that can be loaded
> and run in the interpreter, so there's no need for compiling the DLL after
> each change made to it.
>
> This made it easy to play around with the code and so I discovered what's
> responsible for the nasty crashes: It's the CB_HOOK_MouseProc callback
> procedure.
>
> With that CB disabled everything runs without crashing. But the CB is
> needed by the DLL for some things, like releasing a pressed button,
> displaying a tooltip and so on.
>
> I hope I can make changes to CB_HOOK_MouseProc in order to make it run
> without problems. But I am no programming expert, so it may take a
while...
>
>
> M!chael
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:

>I hope that you are successful. Please keep us informed.

I will do so. 

And I hope that I can release the code I made so far, so that all the
people without a compiler can use and modify the OwnSub code for their
needs. The ToolButtons can be modified very easily now, because the bitmaps
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List Member "EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" <JoeHurst@snafu.de> wrote:
> needs. The ToolButtons can be modified very easily now, because the bitmaps
> are loaded from a BMP file.
Hm, that is not the best way. How about this:
The programmer links a resource-file into his code (compiler) or loads from
bmp-file (interpreter), creates/loads the bitmaps from the resource and passes
the handles to the DLL-toolbar-function.

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List Member Michael Weigand <michael-weigand@foni.net> wrote:
>List Member "EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" <JoeHurst@snafu.de> wrote:
>> needs. The ToolButtons can be modified very easily now, because the bitmaps
>> are loaded from a BMP file.

>Hm, that is not the best way. How about this:
>The programmer links a resource-file into his code (compiler) or loads from
>bmp-file (interpreter), creates/loads the bitmaps from the resource and
passes
>the handles to the DLL-toolbar-function.

Not every GFA Basic user has the compiler. The bitmaps are still loaded by
the DLL funtion, I just changed

ToolBitmap& = @LoadBitmapEx(_INSTANCE,32767,NULL,1)
  to 
ToolBitmap& = LOADBMP("e:\a.bmp")

So people with a compiler can still use the resource if they want.

BTW:
I have progressed so far, that the OwnSub funtions run perfect, when they
are merged to a program. I still need to modify the DLL source to work fine...


M!chael
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:

Subject: Fw: virus



> If you receive an email titled "PLEASE HELP POOR DOG.  Win a Holiday",
> DO NOT open it!  It will erase everything on your hard drive.  Forward
> this letter out to as many people as you can.  This is a new, very
> malicious virus and not many people know about it.  This information was
> announced yesterday morning from Microsoft.  Please share it with
> everyone who might access the Internet.
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
I understand that our friend John Findlay is having a very difficult time .
If you believe in prayer please keep John in mind>
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List Member "Bev & Lou Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
HI Dale how are you ??May I ask what is the nature of Johns ailment ?I have
a cousin that has a prayer chain will have her put him on the prayer chain
alittle more info woul;d be helpful tho ty LOU
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> List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> I understand that our friend John Findlay is having a very difficult time
.
> If you believe in prayer please keep John in mind>
> Dale
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List Member HSMU_BER_SG <HSMU_BER_SG@compuserve.com> wrote:
Thanks for the tip
Greatings
Hans M=FCller
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Hi Hans,
It seems if it is hard to know if these warning are real or not.  After
having a virus shut me down it seems one cannot be too careful.
Dale

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List Member HSMU_BER_SG <HSMU_BER_SG@compuserve.com> wrote:
Thanks for the tip
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
I really do not know what Johns illness is.  He just said that he can have a
really hard time, sometimes for months, at this time of year. Perhaps Tome
Record could enlighten us. I have sent him some messages but received no
reply recently and that is not like him

dale

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> List Member "Bev & Lou Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
> HI Dale how are you ??May I ask what is the nature of Johns ailment ?I
have
> a cousin that has a prayer chain will have her put him on the prayer chain
> alittle more info woul;d be helpful tho ty LOU
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> > List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> > I understand that our friend John Findlay is having a very difficult
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> .
> > If you believe in prayer please keep John in mind>
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
At 02:27 PM 17/07/99 -0700, you wrote:
>List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
>I really do not know what Johns illness is.  He just said that he can have a
>really hard time, sometimes for months, at this time of year. Perhaps Tome
>Record could enlighten us. I have sent him some messages but received no
>reply recently and that is not like him
>
>dale
>
Dale
I know little more than you (if any).  He once told me he couldn't stand
sitting at the keyboard very long.  I've dug thru my brain, trying to
imagine what it could be but come up with nothing suggestive.  Whatever
the problem, I sure hope he weathers it well.  I'm sending good thoughts
his way all the time, but I'm no clarvoiant (or whatever).  Wishing him
well seems to be about all I can do.
<G>
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List Member John Findlay <Jayef@compuserve.com> wrote:
All,

I'm still here, watching! It's good to know I have friends that think of =
me
occasionally.

See you later.

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List Member Fietkau <c0028901@nwn.de> wrote:
Hi,
thanks Eberhard,Dale for your hints about bitmaps. Here's another
problem. I want to do some animation-sequences with bitmaps. To bring
the bmps from memory to screen I tried BITBLT (slow) and
SetDIBITSTODEVICE (a little bit faster).
My question : is there a faster way?

Manfred

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List Member "Bev & Lou Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
Dearest John

Now dear friend we think of you more than once in awhile ...............Not
only on the gfa line ,but you're family !!!!!!!!gotta support those closesst
to us !!
When Bev was soooo sick there I got sooooo much support from all of you &
tha meant so much to me . Now I ca return the honor !!Take care & I placed
you on my prayer list A LOT of people are praying for you Love ya Keep up
the good work & kick us in the butt now & then so we know you are here .


>>>>>Lou



----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Sunday, July 18, 1999 5:37 AM
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> List Member John Findlay <Jayef@compuserve.com> wrote:
> All,
>
> I'm still here, watching! It's good to know I have friends that think of
me
> occasionally.
>
> See you later.
>
> John
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
At 08:28 AM 18/07/99 -0400, you wrote:
>List Member "Bev & Lou Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
>Dearest John
>
>Now dear friend we think of you more than once in awhile ...............Not
>only on the gfa line ,but you're family !!!!!!!!gotta support those closesst
>to us !!
>When Bev was soooo sick there I got sooooo much support from all of you &
>tha meant so much to me . Now I ca return the honor !!Take care & I placed
>you on my prayer list A LOT of people are praying for you Love ya Keep up
>the good work & kick us in the butt now & then so we know you are here .
>
>
>>>>>>Lou
>

Well, it starts off ominous as all hell: "Dearest John", but actually carries
the right sentiment.  We *do* think of you much more often.  In fact, almost
every day your name comes up in conversation (usually in a good sense, but...).

We appear to have a tiny little group within a larger group, & we worry about
each other.  Frankly, I worry more about you guys than I do most of my own
family... them I can pick up off the floor (or whatever), but you guys sometimes
keep my on the edge of my seat, waiting for that damned e-mail that never seems
to come.

Get better, John!  How dare you stay down so long!
<G>
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
 HI,
I wish I could help. This sounds like it is in John Findlays real of
expertise.  John is ill at present.  Perhaps Eberhard can help you. I will
see if I can find anything that will help
Take care,
Dale

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> List Member Fietkau <c0028901@nwn.de> wrote:
> Hi,
> thanks Eberhard,Dale for your hints about bitmaps. Here's another
> problem. I want to do some animation-sequences with bitmaps. To bring
> the bmps from memory to screen I tried BITBLT (slow) and
> SetDIBITSTODEVICE (a little bit faster).
> My question : is there a faster way?
>
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Hi Tom,
You right. Wishing him well and praying for him is all we can do. Kind of
frustrating when we miss him so much.
Dale

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> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> At 02:27 PM 17/07/99 -0700, you wrote:
> >List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> >I really do not know what Johns illness is.  He just said that he can
have a
> >really hard time, sometimes for months, at this time of year. Perhaps
Tome
> >Record could enlighten us. I have sent him some messages but received no
> >reply recently and that is not like him
> >
> >dale
> >
> Dale
> I know little more than you (if any).  He once told me he couldn't stand
> sitting at the keyboard very long.  I've dug thru my brain, trying to
> imagine what it could be but come up with nothing suggestive.  Whatever
> the problem, I sure hope he weathers it well.  I'm sending good thoughts
> his way all the time, but I'm no clarvoiant (or whatever).  Wishing him
> well seems to be about all I can do.
> <G>
> TomR.
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List Member John Findlay <Jayef@compuserve.com> wrote:

My dear Lou,

> in the butt <

OK, so I like butts! I'll let you in on a little secret though, I have an=

over-riding prefference for female ones.

;-)

John
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List Member BDD <BrentDeck@compuserve.com> wrote:
Hi Ingmar,

I compiled your sample code and ran it on Win 3.1. =


Inerpreted, Bucketsort was 85% faster than Quicksort..
Compiled, Bucketsort was 15% slower than Quicksort.

Does this agree with your results?

Brent.
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
You raunchy son of a gun. You must be feeling a little better!
Love,
Dale

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List Member John Findlay <Jayef@compuserve.com> wrote:

My dear Lou,

> in the butt <

OK, so I like butts! I'll let you in on a little secret though, I have an
over-riding prefference for female ones.

;-)

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Hear, Hear!
John is at least a tad better today!
I have to 2nd his prefference.
Welcome to the "comeback trail", John.
<G>
TomR.


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>My dear Lou,
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>> in the butt <
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>
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List Member "Roland Walter" <alibaba@zedat.fu-berlin.de> wrote:
Dear GFA Basic programmers,
Many of You will know my (Roland Walter) GFA Basic Internet 
pages...
I now have an own top level domain address so that You must
not longer use the very long old one. The new address is:
http://www.rowalt.de/gfabasic/
("rowalt" comes from Roland Walter, my name)
Please do not use the old address furthermore.

By the way: My GFA pages are primary german language oriented 
but downloading comments have also an english comment
(mostly the example listings but also the links).
By the way 2nd: If You need some listings there are around
5MB in a ZIP file waiting for download ;-)

That's all, Roland
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List Member Anthony Watson <awatson@pacifier.com> wrote:
> I compiled your sample code and ran it on Win 3.1. 
> Interpreted, Bucketsort was 85% faster than Quicksort..
> Compiled, Bucketsort was 15% slower than Quicksort.

I use sort routines a lot so I was excited to try out the Bucket sort
program from the GFA list. Unfortunately, my tests showed it to be SLOWER
than the Quicksort (in the interpreter). The test program "said" it was
about 8% faster, but in actuality the Bucket sort took more time than the
Quicksort. So, I'd say the programs reporting was buggy.

I tried to compile the code, but kept getting errors about the DIM array
being too large.

I'm using Windows 95, with 64 Meg RAM, and a 120mhz Pentium Processor.

Anthony Watson
Mountain Software
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Hi Roland,
Thanks for the information. The link on he GFWHELP links page has been
changed to your new URL.
Thanks,
Dale

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> List Member "Roland Walter" <alibaba@zedat.fu-berlin.de> wrote:
> Dear GFA Basic programmers,
> Many of You will know my (Roland Walter) GFA Basic Internet
> pages...
> I now have an own top level domain address so that You must
> not longer use the very long old one. The new address is:
> http://www.rowalt.de/gfabasic/
> ("rowalt" comes from Roland Walter, my name)
> Please do not use the old address furthermore.
>
> By the way: My GFA pages are primary german language oriented
> but downloading comments have also an english comment
> (mostly the example listings but also the links).
> By the way 2nd: If You need some listings there are around
> 5MB in a ZIP file waiting for download ;-)
>
> That's all, Roland
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A new web page has been added to the GFAWHELP web site.  It uses a java
class applet to display tips about GFA Basic for Windows.  If you have some
programming tips I would love to add them.
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
I am not in the habit of recommending programs but this one is really nice.
It is called IFRANVIEW32 and it is freeware. It supports ALL popular
graphics formats so that you can convert from one format to the another
format.  It has a lot of features that are very worthwhile. Supports
animation, thumb nails. ect.

Dale



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Hi everyone

One question for Bitmaps in different Solution.
I would be put an Bitmap in an other. The first Bitmap was a frame with =
a black background.
In this Background I would put a second Bitmap. The black Background =
must be hidden.
When I changed the Solution from 800x600 to 1024x736 the frame is not =
the problem, this can I to with the Order STRECH 0,0,Bitmap&,_X,_Y - but =
the second Bitmap is not in the correctly position.

Who can help me ?

Rainer

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Bitmap in an other.=20
The first Bitmap was a frame with a black background.</FONT></DIV>
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
What is GFA BASIC runtime error #13?
and where is the appendix?

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
"String too long"
>32k
<G>
TomR.


At 05:11 PM 20/07/99 -0700, you wrote:
>List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
>What is GFA BASIC runtime error #13?
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>
>http://gfawhelp.gfa.net
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List Member HiTekCntry@aol.com wrote:
Hey guys, 	
	Can't help you guys with GFA, but if you are looking for telephone 
number for Post Office, look under "U".    
									John 
Massey
PS. U nited States Postal Service ( not the tip of the week)
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Thanks Tom. That is what I came up with also. My GFA EDITOR help file says
see appendix for error message list. I am still looking for it.
Dale

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> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> "String too long"
> >32k
> <G>
> TomR.
>
>
> At 05:11 PM 20/07/99 -0700, you wrote:
> >List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> >What is GFA BASIC runtime error #13?
> >and where is the appendix?
> >
> >http://gfawhelp.gfa.net
> >
> >
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
White "Programmer's Reference"

GFA-BASIC
   for
 Windows

GFA-BASIC Interpreter
Commands & Functions

Starts on page 418

See attached, also
gfaerror.zip (1.8k)

<G>
TomR.


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>List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
>Thanks Tom. That is what I came up with also. My GFA EDITOR help file says
>see appendix for error message list. I am still looking for it.
>Dale
>
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>>
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>> >
>> >http://gfawhelp.gfa.net
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Thanks Tom,
When I am in the .hlp file and it says see appendix I assumed it meant an
appendix in the .hlp file.
By the way, gfaerror.zip was not attached to you message.
Dale

----- Original Message -----
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> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> White "Programmer's Reference"
>
> GFA-BASIC
>    for
>  Windows
>
> GFA-BASIC Interpreter
> Commands & Functions
>
> Starts on page 418
>
> See attached, also
> gfaerror.zip (1.8k)
>
> <G>
> TomR.
>
>
> At 09:12 AM 21/07/99 -0700, you wrote:
> >List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> >Thanks Tom. That is what I came up with also. My GFA EDITOR help file
says
> >see appendix for error message list. I am still looking for it.
> >Dale
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net>
> >To: <gfabasic@gfa.net>
> >Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 1999 8:12 PM
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> >
> >
> >> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net>
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> >> "String too long"
> >> >32k
> >> <G>
> >> TomR.
> >>
> >>
> >> At 05:11 PM 20/07/99 -0700, you wrote:
> >> >List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> >> >What is GFA BASIC runtime error #13?
> >> >and where is the appendix?
> >> >
> >> >http://gfawhelp.gfa.net
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
John
Welcome back.  Did you get your Windows straightened out?
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>	Can't help you guys with GFA, but if you are looking for telephone 
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>									John 
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List Member "Andras Szalay" <a.szalay@mail.matav.hu> wrote:
>>What is GFA BASIC runtime error #13?

Dale,

the easiest way to get an answer is:
PRINT ERR$(13)

Andras

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Hi Dale,

Thank you for this tip. A great program.
If I saw the animaton cursor, I began to look,
how is an animaton cursor build.
Here a little demo program as attechment.

Greetings

Eberhard

>List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
>I am not in the habit of recommending programs but this one is really nice.
>It is called IFRANVIEW32 and it is freeware. It supports ALL popular
>graphics formats so that you can convert from one format to the another
>format.  It has a lot of features that are very worthwhile. Supports
>animation, thumb nails. ect.
>
>Dale
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Thanks Andras,
I did that  and it worked fine. Tom Record also sent me a short program
called GFAERROR which is very informative.
Have a great day!
Dale

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> List Member "Andras Szalay" <a.szalay@mail.matav.hu> wrote:
> >>What is GFA BASIC runtime error #13?
>
> Dale,
>
> the easiest way to get an answer is:
> PRINT ERR$(13)
>
> Andras
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Hi Eberhard,
Are you still on vacation?  Hope you are having a great time. Thanks for the
attachment, I will look at it in just a few minutes.
Take care,
Dale

----- Original Message -----
From: Eberhard Funck <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de>
To: <gfabasic@gfa.net>
Sent: Thursday, July 22, 1999 7:25 AM
Subject: Re: [gfabasic] RECOMMENDED


> Hi Dale,
>
> Thank you for this tip. A great program.
> If I saw the animaton cursor, I began to look,
> how is an animaton cursor build.
> Here a little demo program as attechment.
>
> Greetings
>
> Eberhard
>
> >List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> >I am not in the habit of recommending programs but this one is really
nice.
> >It is called IFRANVIEW32 and it is freeware. It supports ALL popular
> >graphics formats so that you can convert from one format to the another
> >format.  It has a lot of features that are very worthwhile. Supports
> >animation, thumb nails. ect.
> >
> >Dale
> >
> >
> >
> >http://stud1.tuwien.ac.at/~e9227474/
> >http://gfawhelp.gfa.net
> >
> >
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List Member "Eberhard Funck" <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de> wrote:
Hi Dale,
In the moment, I make pause at home from my jouneys.
The next week is my last vacation week.
I begin to work at Monday, 2. August.
In the meantime I was busy and I have made some little projects.
I must still write somethink abot and for them.
Than I can send it to you. But no hurry.
The animated cursor project is one of them.
But not finished. New functions like LoadCursor(file$)
and a new/old function for building an dialogbox without resource file,
like GFA Basic, but you can display the dialogbox (with a CallBack function)
out of the interpreter like a dialogbox loading from a resource file
and call it with API DialogBox().

Greetings

Eberhard



>List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
>Hi Eberhard,
>Are you still on vacation?  Hope you are having a great time. Thanks for
the
>attachment, I will look at it in just a few minutes.
>Take care,
>Dale
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Eberhard Funck <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de>
>To: <gfabasic@gfa.net>
>Sent: Thursday, July 22, 1999 7:25 AM
>Subject: Re: [gfabasic] RECOMMENDED
>
>
>> Hi Dale,
>>
>> Thank you for this tip. A great program.
>> If I saw the animaton cursor, I began to look,
>> how is an animaton cursor build.
>> Here a little demo program as attechment.
>>
>> Greetings
>>
>> Eberhard
>>
>> >List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
>> >I am not in the habit of recommending programs but this one is really
>nice.
>> >It is called IFRANVIEW32 and it is freeware. It supports ALL popular
>> >graphics formats so that you can convert from one format to the another
>> >format.  It has a lot of features that are very worthwhile. Supports
>> >animation, thumb nails. ect.
>> >
>> >Dale


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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
A week to go!! Make the best of it and have a relaxing time.
Dale

----- Original Message -----
From: Eberhard Funck <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de>
To: <gfabasic@gfa.net>
Sent: Thursday, July 22, 1999 12:32 PM
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> List Member "Eberhard Funck" <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de> wrote:
> Hi Dale,
> In the moment, I make pause at home from my jouneys.
> The next week is my last vacation week.
> I begin to work at Monday, 2. August.
> In the meantime I was busy and I have made some little projects.
> I must still write somethink abot and for them.
> Than I can send it to you. But no hurry.
> The animated cursor project is one of them.
> But not finished. New functions like LoadCursor(file$)
> and a new/old function for building an dialogbox without resource file,
> like GFA Basic, but you can display the dialogbox (with a CallBack
function)
> out of the interpreter like a dialogbox loading from a resource file
> and call it with API DialogBox().
>
> Greetings
>
> Eberhard
>
>
>
> >List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> >Hi Eberhard,
> >Are you still on vacation?  Hope you are having a great time. Thanks for
> the
> >attachment, I will look at it in just a few minutes.
> >Take care,
> >Dale
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: Eberhard Funck <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de>
> >To: <gfabasic@gfa.net>
> >Sent: Thursday, July 22, 1999 7:25 AM
> >Subject: Re: [gfabasic] RECOMMENDED
> >
> >
> >> Hi Dale,
> >>
> >> Thank you for this tip. A great program.
> >> If I saw the animaton cursor, I began to look,
> >> how is an animaton cursor build.
> >> Here a little demo program as attechment.
> >>
> >> Greetings
> >>
> >> Eberhard
> >>
> >> >List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> >> >I am not in the habit of recommending programs but this one is really
> >nice.
> >> >It is called IFRANVIEW32 and it is freeware. It supports ALL popular
> >> >graphics formats so that you can convert from one format to the
another
> >> >format.  It has a lot of features that are very worthwhile. Supports
> >> >animation, thumb nails. ect.
> >> >
> >> >Dale
>
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List Member "Marijan Pollak" <oberon@all4us.com> wrote:
        Honored Mr. Briant!

  I Haver sent You ( at least I hope it was to You ) a message 
pleading that whoever is in charge of this chat-list ( it was a
Mailing list, and serious, once ) that he redirect sending from
oberon@all4us.com to mpollak@onyx.bbm.hr, since there is
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By the way, since it seems that You know a lot about Mailing,
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separate mailboxes? It is LINUX server with APACHE....
    Do anybody have any news regarding GFA32? I have
inquieries from customers, and GFA is not answering my 
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List Member "Marijan Pollak" <oberon@all4us.com> wrote:
        Honored Mr. Bryant!

  I Haver sent You ( at least I hope it was to You ) a message 
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By the way, since it seems that You know a lot about Mailing,
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    Do anybody have any news regarding GFA32? I have
inquiries from customers, and GFA is not answering my 
mail at all any more?

        Kindest regards, Marijan Pollak 
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List Member "Marijan Pollak" <oberon@all4us.com> wrote:
        Honored Mr. Bryant!

  I Haver sent You ( at least I hope it was to You ) a message 
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lot of mail coming there for different reasons and all goes to
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By the way, since it seems that You know a lot about Mailing,
can You advice me how to set this mailbox to receive mail to
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    Do anybody have any news regarding GFA32? I have
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        Kindest regards, Marijan Pollak 
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List Member GFA Online <service@gfa.net> wrote:
Dear Mr. Pollak,

would you please sending private mails to the receiver
DIRECTLY? If you want to sent mails to Dale Bryant,
use adbryant@gfa.net, but don't sent mails to the list,
if they are not of interest for the list member, but
intended to be read by one man only.
And please don't sent mails more than once to the list.

We have changed your mail address manually, but you can
do it yourself. See instructions on www.gfasoft.gfa.net.

By the way: We do not have questions from you here at GFA.
   Why shall we not answer?


+++ GFA Online


At 22:36 22.07.99 +0200, you wrote:
>List Member "Marijan Pollak" <oberon@all4us.com> wrote:
>        Honored Mr. Bryant!
>
>  I Haver sent You ( at least I hope it was to You ) a message 
>pleading that whoever is in charge of this chat-list ( it was a
>Mailing list, and serious, once ) that he redirect sending from
>oberon@all4us.com to mpollak@onyx.bbm.hr, since there is
>lot of mail coming there for different reasons and all goes to
>the same mailbox, so whoever is taking mail is downloading
>everything, and then have to forward it to me, or put back again.
>By the way, since it seems that You know a lot about Mailing,
>can You advice me how to set this mailbox to receive mail to
>separate mailboxes? It is LINUX server with APACHE....
>    Do anybody have any news regarding GFA32? I have
>inquiries from customers, and GFA is not answering my 
>mail at all any more?
>
>        Kindest regards, Marijan Pollak 
>            general representative for GFA in Croatia
>
>
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Was it Dale that found this?  Great work!  NOW I have a means
of looking at *.gif animations that isn't as bulky as having
to keep the Queen Mary II afloat.

If anybody is willing to work with me, I have a module that makes
*.gif animation display possible.  It is actually an *.ocx altho
it bears the extension of *.dll.  So far, I've been unsuccessful
in trying to utilize it... the calls throw me for a loop.

<G>
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List Member UlliStemmeler@t-online.de (Ulli Stemmeler) wrote:
Hello,
this is the first time I write to the GFA-Mail-List, I hope I do everythi=
ng in=20
the right way...
I have a question:
Does anybody know how to find out the height and width of an AVI-File usi=
ng the=20
MCI devices ? Should be something like > MCI$("status alias extensions")
I can=B4t find out if this is documented somewhere...
Thanks,

Ulli Stemmeler
Lingener Str. 6
D-48155 M=FCnster
Germany/Alemania/Alemanha
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Why is it that the majority of my requests for help & assistance
do NOT ever appear on this list?  Am I being filtered out?

I can send a comment in one e-mail & ask help in another, send both
at the same time, & ONLY THE COMMENT appears on the list!

I do NOT consider a request for help to be SPAM.  This is becoming
very disgusting, boys & girls!  It is also becoming very consistant.

I am not GFA-W's author, so I must ask questions when I run out of
constructive, comprehensive documentation.  I cannot pay GFA to answer
my questions so I am forced to ask them on this list.

I believe I've paid my dues... I answer all questions of others that I
know how to & as I learn how to do something new, I contribute to the
group as a whole.  For this, I cannot get my own questions answered?

Let's see if *THIS* shows up on the list!

TomR.

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List Member "Bev & Lou Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
Gee, Tom!  I don't have quite the same prob; maybe, because I don't ask so
many questions or answer them for that matter but I have yet to see an
answer to the question I've been asking ever since FAT32 came along (over a
year now); namely, how do I get the information from a sector on a logical
drive -- I've even sent my code for it -- still no help.  btw, it did show
up on the list.  <g>

                                                   ->Bev<--

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> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Why is it that the majority of my requests for help & assistance
> do NOT ever appear on this list?  Am I being filtered out?
>
> I can send a comment in one e-mail & ask help in another, send both
> at the same time, & ONLY THE COMMENT appears on the list!
>
> I do NOT consider a request for help to be SPAM.  This is becoming
> very disgusting, boys & girls!  It is also becoming very consistant.
>
> I am not GFA-W's author, so I must ask questions when I run out of
> constructive, comprehensive documentation.  I cannot pay GFA to answer
> my questions so I am forced to ask them on this list.
>
> I believe I've paid my dues... I answer all questions of others that I
> know how to & as I learn how to do something new, I contribute to the
> group as a whole.  For this, I cannot get my own questions answered?
>
> Let's see if *THIS* shows up on the list!
>
> TomR.
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List Member GFA Online <service@gfa.net> wrote:

We just have checked over the List Log Files again.
It seems that a bug in the Mailing List Software tries
to filter out all mails that contain the word "HELP" as
subject. The List Software Majordomo redirects these mails
to the List Processor (the Software itself) to be parsed
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We will try do to a fix in the Software and as soon as we
have a new release, we will give it a try.

The first quick fix has already been done, so all mails that
normally are filtered out und suspressed are send in copy
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Keep you informed.


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List Member GFA Online <service@gfa.net> wrote:
To: gfabasic@gfa.net
From: Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Help requested
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 06:44:10 +0000

Various people have contributed the means of copying enormous files
from one location to another.  I'm using John's version because of
it's simplicity & the fact that I've moved nearly 5M files with it
without any problems.

FUNCTION  HugeRead(hFile&, lpBuffer%, lBytes%)
  RETURN P:(GetProcAddress(hkernel&, "_hread"))(hFile&, L:lpBuffer%,
L:lBytes%)
ENDFUNC

FUNCTION  HugeWrite(hFile&, lpBuffer%, lBytes%)
  RETURN P:(GetProcAddress(hkernel&, "_hwrite"))(hFile&, L:lpBuffer%,
L:lBytes%)
ENDFUNC

Question:
If I can, how do I, & if I can't, why not, use HugeRead to place a file into
memory, then access it?  When it comes to MALLOC, I am all thumbs.

I am presently working on large files, but am forced to copy line by line from
one disk file to another, exchanging lines I have edited in place of the
original
lines.  I would highly prefer doing all of this in memory where it is much
faster
& not be loading a USER's HD with alot of clutter while working.

My presumed & desired goal is to be able to work files in the standard 32K
EDITTEXT by selectively loading a smaller portion of the file into it & then
moving about in the file in memory.  In one sense, this creates high overhead
but in another, it is far less cumbersome than repeated drive activity.  Much
of this *appears* to be rather simple but experience is showing me that it is
most definitely NOT simple... at least, not as simple as it would appear to
be.

Using bigdemo.gfw, formtext.gfw & another example or so, I can work with just
less than 64K.  This is insufficient as all getout.  Editmaster handles the
nearly 5M file very nicely.  It loads a very large portion into memory & works
with it, then if needed, retrieves more of the file from the disk.  Editmaster
does have one drawback, tho - after considerable editing, it is necessary to
save the modified file because available memory seems to be full.  Once saved,
it appears to start over again - the excess memory seems to have been cleared
& is therefore again available.

A companion question: in lieu of a system having a RAMDISK installed via the
config.sys file, is there a possible means of a temporary installation?  I
believe I could use my idiotic method of writing/substituting a whole lot
faster using a RAMDISK since it bypasses harddrive activity & restrictions.

I can easily check memory availability & even install the RAMDISK from within
my appl, but I want to avoid modifying any system settings on the USER's
computer.  I am not at all convinced that I can do this without necessitating
a reboot to put the RAMDISK into operation anyway.

Aid & direction on these questions most sincerely appreciated.
<G>
TomR.



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Subject: [gfabasic] color virus?
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List Member BDD <BrentDeck@compuserve.com> wrote:
// colrtest.gfw  Brent Deck  8/99
//
// My monitor has suddenly stopped displaying red colors.
// The red gun appears to work ok, because I can still get all shades of
white and gray,
//  which require a red component. This problem affects all programs,
including the desktop and =

//  the control panel.
//
// This program normally displays a palette of reds tints. On my system, =
it
now displays only shades
// of gray from black to white.
//
// Does anyone know of a virus or hardware glitch or other potential caus=
e
for this problem?
//
// I have a genoa video caard running under Win 3.1
//
//  Brent

DIM red%(50),red&(50),Br&(50)

OPENW # 1
FULLW #1

Brcount& =3D 0

newpal //  create pallette with red tones

FOR x =3D 0 TO 49
  COLOR red&(x)
  PBOX x * 15,0,15 + x * 15,80
NEXT x

COLOR 0,255
TEXT 0,_Y - 50,"HIT ANY KEY TO EXIT"
KEYGET a

CLOSEW #1

END

PROCEDURE newpal

  hh1& =3D SelectPalette(_DC(1),_PAL(1),FALSE)  // foreground this may be=


  FOR aa% =3D 0 TO 49
    red%(aa%) =3D (&hff) + 5 * ((aa% << 8) +  (aa% << 16))
    red&(aa%) =3D 50 + aa%
  NEXT aa%

  ret& =3D SetPaletteEntries(_PAL(1),red&(0),50,V:red%(0)) // modify pale=
tte
entries starting at index of 50

  REALIZE 1

RETURN
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Hi Ulli,
Glad to see that you made it to the list.
WELCOME!!!
Dale
----- Original Message -----
From: Ulli Stemmeler <UlliStemmeler@t-online.de>
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Sent: Friday, July 23, 1999 12:09 AM
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> List Member UlliStemmeler@t-online.de (Ulli Stemmeler) wrote:
> Hello,
> this is the first time I write to the GFA-Mail-List, I hope I do
everything in
> the right way...
> I have a question:
> Does anybody know how to find out the height and width of an AVI-File
using the
> MCI devices ? Should be something like > MCI$("status alias extensions")
> I cant find out if this is documented somewhere...
> Thanks,
>
> Ulli Stemmeler
> Lingener Str. 6
> D-48155 Mnster
> Germany/Alemania/Alemanha
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Can you answer this, anyone?

----- Original Message -----
From: Ulli Stemmeler <UlliStemmeler@t-online.de>
To: <adbryant@msn.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 22, 1999 6:28 AM
Subject: Again a question from Ulli Stemmeler


> Hi,
>
> thanks for your informations about that "midi-connexion"/interrupts.
> Unfortunately I dont know enough about those system-things to use them in
a
> GFA-Program.
> It was quite easier to do things like this "in old Atari-Days", with that
> computer you just had to find out the number of the midi-port and write
some
> "Out"-things. Its much more comlicated with a windows-pc now.
>
> But I started to use Midi in my programs via "MCI"-orders.
>
> My last project: I am writing a program just to "drag & drop" a folder on
it
> (for example of a CD) and the program openes a window an lists all known
> file-types like JPGs, GIFs, BMPs and so on, in a Menu.
> I like to to this for more media files. I am able to do it with Wave and
> Midi-Files (being played via MCI), but now I would like to do this also
with AVI
> and MPG-files. Its easy to do it via MCI but theres one question I cant
find
> nowhere: I would like to find out the height and width of an AVI file, I
guess
> it ist possible through the use of things like
>
> width_and_height$=MCI$("status video width height")
>
> but I cant find out how it shoult be exactly (and these things are not
> documtented nowhere, I guess).
>
> Could you tell me something about this or do you know where I could find
out
> some more about these details ?
>
> It would be very helpful,
>
> thanks you, sincerly,
>
> many greetings,
>
> Ulli Stemmeler
>
> Mnster/Germany
>
>



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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
So... I *haven't* lost my last 3 marbles.
Thanks
<G>
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At 11:53 AM 23/07/99 +0200, you wrote:
>List Member GFA Online <service@gfa.net> wrote:
>
>We just have checked over the List Log Files again.
>It seems that a bug in the Mailing List Software tries
>to filter out all mails that contain the word "HELP" as
>subject. The List Software Majordomo redirects these mails
>to the List Processor (the Software itself) to be parsed
>and executed.
>
>We will try do to a fix in the Software and as soon as we
>have a new release, we will give it a try.
>
>The first quick fix has already been done, so all mails that
>normally are filtered out und suspressed are send in copy
>to owner-gfabasic@gfa.net, so we are able to post them manually.
>
>Keep you informed.
>
>
>+++ GFA Online
>
>
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>>List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>>Why is it that the majority of my requests for help & assistance
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Yep!  Did.  Have been searching my meager resources to no avail.
<G>
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At 04:19 AM 23/07/99 -0400, you wrote:
>List Member "Bev & Lou Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
>Gee, Tom!  I don't have quite the same prob; maybe, because I don't ask so
>many questions or answer them for that matter but I have yet to see an
>answer to the question I've been asking ever since FAT32 came along (over a
>year now); namely, how do I get the information from a sector on a logical
>drive -- I've even sent my code for it -- still no help.  btw, it did show
>up on the list.  <g>
>
>                                                   ->Bev<--
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>
>
>> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> Why is it that the majority of my requests for help & assistance
>> do NOT ever appear on this list?  Am I being filtered out?
>>
>> I can send a comment in one e-mail & ask help in another, send both
>> at the same time, & ONLY THE COMMENT appears on the list!
>>
>> I do NOT consider a request for help to be SPAM.  This is becoming
>> very disgusting, boys & girls!  It is also becoming very consistant.
>>
>> I am not GFA-W's author, so I must ask questions when I run out of
>> constructive, comprehensive documentation.  I cannot pay GFA to answer
>> my questions so I am forced to ask them on this list.
>>
>> I believe I've paid my dues... I answer all questions of others that I
>> know how to & as I learn how to do something new, I contribute to the
>> group as a whole.  For this, I cannot get my own questions answered?
>>
>> Let's see if *THIS* shows up on the list!
>>
>> TomR.
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List Member Barlik@aol.com wrote:
well the help is forus .to give us a chance to do something big in life is 
you jusy give us ia chance..you sound like a nice person.if you just let us 
show you what we can do...we may not be perfect a first but we can start at 
the bottom.even though we are only 12 going on 13.      
we still are worth a shot so please......

                     alyssa -12,sarah12-jen12.billt 13..

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List Member "EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" <JoeHurst@snafu.de> wrote:
> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Why is it that the majority of my requests for help & assistance
> do NOT ever appear on this list?  Am I being filtered out?
>
> I can send a comment in one e-mail & ask help in another, send both
> at the same time, & ONLY THE COMMENT appears on the list!
Tom, this is seriously the internal artificial intelligence of the mailing-list.
It works like this:
If someone has questions (you), and the same one has answers or comments (again
you), the program thinks: "Hm, how can someone give good answers and ask silly
questions at the same time? I must make a decision and delete one of those
mails. If I remove the comment-mail, the sender would be blamed because he only
sends stupid questions as like an absolute beginner does. If I remove the
questions, the sender could appear as a gfa-basic-god."
What, in your honest optinion, did the mailing-list do in these cases? I am sure
you still found out...

See my big, big grin
for this old, old boy...
   Joe


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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Catch22, hunh.  In order to eliminate confusion for the venerable software
perhaps it's best to answer no questions, ask no questions, & dump GFA-W.
<G?>
TomR.

At 10:42 PM 24/07/99 +0200, you wrote:
>List Member "EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" <JoeHurst@snafu.de> wrote:
>> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> Why is it that the majority of my requests for help & assistance
>> do NOT ever appear on this list?  Am I being filtered out?
>>
>> I can send a comment in one e-mail & ask help in another, send both
>> at the same time, & ONLY THE COMMENT appears on the list!
>Tom, this is seriously the internal artificial intelligence of the
mailing-list.
>It works like this:
>If someone has questions (you), and the same one has answers or comments (again
>you), the program thinks: "Hm, how can someone give good answers and ask silly
>questions at the same time? I must make a decision and delete one of those
>mails. If I remove the comment-mail, the sender would be blamed because he only
>sends stupid questions as like an absolute beginner does. If I remove the
>questions, the sender could appear as a gfa-basic-god."
>What, in your honest optinion, did the mailing-list do in these cases? I am
sure
>you still found out...
>
>See my big, big grin
>for this old, old boy...
>   Joe

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
File extension is "hlp", internal filetype ID is "LN", file is DOS helpfile.

Does anybody know the necessary structure of a Windows appl to read these?

There is a lot of good info in various of these helpfiles IF we can come up
with how to interpret & display them.  MOST MCI/MM helpfiles are of this
type & are usually called by some DOS appl.  At the moment, I can get only
the text they contain - this does NOT allow joining the related subjects
& their explanations.

I've also tried to decipher the *.inc format with no success.  Again, there
is a ton of valuable info in the "C" & "VC" include files IF we can get them
into a display format for Windows.

Header files (*.h) are just text files but don't always carry all that is
required.

<G>
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List Member Micromiser Software <miser@cde.com> wrote:
 Dear list members,
   Some may remember me from CIS, or 8-bit Atari days as developer of
Turbobase, Turboword, etc. Anyway, I was elated to discover this list a
while ago, and hope to contribute and generally promote it as I feel
qualified and have time. Thanks to all posters (and GFAWHELP) for adding to
my "list of things to try."
   I have a dialog box DLL written in GFAW designed to take the time out of
creating, processing, debugging, and cleaning up after simple dialogs in a
large database/application generator program that I develop and maintain
also in GFAW. Though superior dialog tools abound, none satisfied my
particular needs. This tool is on Micromiser's site as shareware, but I
offer it free to any poster in this list. I could post the URL if anyone has
interest.
   Another thing that wastes a lot of my time is reading records > 264 bytes
(fast and easy). I'll probably add that next. Some items on my To-Do list
are displaying (all) JPGs (resized on all hardware), checking the LPT1
printer without false errors, checking if (all types of) drive letters are
operational, and getting free disk bytes on big W95 OS/2 drives. Suggestions?

-----
Steve Thornton
Micromiser Software


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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Welcome "back", & let's see it.
Many of us are willing to learn something new.
<G>
TomR.


At 05:43 AM 25/07/99 -0400, you wrote:
>List Member Micromiser Software <miser@cde.com> wrote:
> Dear list members,
>   Some may remember me from CIS, or 8-bit Atari days as developer of
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>my "list of things to try."
>   I have a dialog box DLL written in GFAW designed to take the time out of
>creating, processing, debugging, and cleaning up after simple dialogs in a
>large database/application generator program that I develop and maintain
>also in GFAW. Though superior dialog tools abound, none satisfied my
>particular needs. This tool is on Micromiser's site as shareware, but I
>offer it free to any poster in this list. I could post the URL if anyone has
>interest.
>   Another thing that wastes a lot of my time is reading records > 264 bytes
>(fast and easy). I'll probably add that next. Some items on my To-Do list
>are displaying (all) JPGs (resized on all hardware), checking the LPT1
>printer without false errors, checking if (all types of) drive letters are
>operational, and getting free disk bytes on big W95 OS/2 drives. Suggestions?
>
>-----
>Steve Thornton
>Micromiser Software
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List Member Micromiser Software <miser@cde.com> wrote:
Hi Tom,
Thanks for the welcome. It's good to be back. This is superior to CIS and
their obligatory software, which I found about as acceptable as you find the
mail list "AI" business.

I would feel honored for any GFA user to use my software. To see what the
dialog program does, go to www.micromiser.com/dialog.htm but ignore the
shareware price. For you or any poster in this list to receive the
"registered" version, just ask here, click "contact" there, or email me at
miser@cde.com. I will email it back. But please include your developer
name(s) if other than your personal name for my "registered" list. I should
also mention that examples are in GFA Basic.

You get some strange messages! Maybe just broken English, or maybe the AI
program makes your last name into a recording agent? <g>. Ignore me if I
stupidly jumped into the middle of something...

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>You get some strange messages! Maybe just broken English, or maybe the AI
>program makes your last name into a recording agent? <g>. Ignore me if I
>stupidly jumped into the middle of something...
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Steve
Ignore, hell - you have my curiosity running rampant <G>.

I *am* a cracked record, but that shouldn't effect you effect you effect=20
you.  I can frequently type much faster than I can think, so I *do* drop=20
into slang & a sort-of shorthand.  Sorry.

"the AI program"... Almost Intelegent?  Am lost on this one <G>.

The surname *is* Record.  The e-mail adrs is:
Tiger.Genealogical.Rescue@worldnet.att.net.

I used to give a lot of genealogy help & was shooting the U.S. Census
microfilm to the computer.  Since I failed to get them on the market
Br=F8derbund took'em up and are now marketing them.  They still haven't
OCRed them, tho <GGGGG>.  "Teaching" an OCR program to read handwriting
takes time!!!

Anyway... Welcome back.
<G>
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List Member Micromiser Software <miser@cde.com> wrote:
Hi Joe,
   Thanks for mentioning ImageLib.DLL. I will check it out myself and ask
Tom if I need assistance. Of course I am not interested in doing what is
already done (probably better).
   ASSEMBLER routines in GFA-16: So far GlobalDosAlloc/ AllocSelector/
Changeselector/ Call have worked including W95/98. Will this not work in
GFA32 or Win2000?
   _Huge/Bload: In most cases I can't control file size or memory available,
so have been gulping 32K or 64K blocks. It's a minor DLL job. If someone was
already using my DLL for another tool, then perhaps it would be worth while
to include.
   My dialog tool is designed to do what MessageBox or Alert does, and
operate about the same. Except adding lengthy text, some primitive text
graphics, icons, bitmaps, edit, radio, checkbox, combobox, list box, and
more button selections. Nothing fancy; only the basic functions of these
controls that I need. Also I need to frequently revise functionality as
customers want this or that change. Having the instructions (and optionally
the results) in a script file works well for that.
  The reason the dialog program is shareware is only for me to see what may
be involved in starting a shareware page. If it does not become too much of
a diversion (meaning general traffic--not GFA people), I have more serious
shareware projects planned. Regarding GFA-specific tools, it seems a
possible way for me to make a contribution.
  Sorry for a long message in the wrong language...

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
http://TiGeR1.webjump.com/ 

All files I can find that deal w/ MCI & MM, in a 2.54M *.zip.

there are 2 or 3 Windows helpfiles & 3 DOS helpfiles.  I've extracted
the text from the latter because I can't find a way to write a Windows
program to display'em.

There are also some *.h & other include files in the pkg from the SDK.

I checked... it will download.
<G>
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List Member UlliStemmeler@t-online.de (Ulli Stemmeler) wrote:
Hello,

I was able to find an answer to my own question (MCI-devices, the width a=
nd=20
height of avi-files).

The correct way to find out is (if someone else likes to know it):

  FILESELECT #"load video-file","*.avi;*.mpg;*.mov","",video$
  MCI "open " + filename$ + " alias video"
>>>>
  vid_ext$ =3D MCI$("where video destination") // "video"=3Dalias
>>>>
  vid_ho% =3D VAL(MID$(vid_ext$,RINSTR(vid_ext$," ") + 1))
  vid_ext$ =3D LEFT$(vid_ext$,RINSTR(vid_ext$," ") - 1)
  vid_br% =3D VAL(MID$(vid_ext$,RINSTR(vid_ext$," ") + 1))

vid_br% ist the width and vid_ho% ist the height of the video (avi-file).
This works with MPG-files and MOV-files as well

I am working on a little video-file-player.

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List Member UlliStemmeler@t-online.de (Ulli Stemmeler) wrote:
Hello,

I am using a routine to get long names from Win 95 in a special fileselec=
tbox.
Unfortunately this doesn=B4t work, when the path or the filename includes=
 special
letters like the german "=E4", "=F6", "=FC" and so on.

Does anybody have an idea to resolve this ?? (without changing the file- =
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folder-names, this would be no solution at all).

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List Member "Eberhard Funck" <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de> wrote:
Hi Ulli,
See above

Eberhard


<<List Member UlliStemmeler@t-online.de (Ulli Stemmeler) wrote:
<<Hello,

<<I am using a routine to get long names from Win 95 in a special
fileselectbox.
<<Unfortunately this doesn=B4t work, when the path or the filename includ=
es
special
<<letters like the german "=E4", "=F6", "=FC" and so on.


EF: What doesn't work?????????

<<Does anybody have an idea to resolve this ?? (without changing the file=
-
or
<<folder-names, this would be no solution at all).

<<Ulli Stemmeler
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List Member "EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" <JoeHurst@snafu.de> wrote:
Ever thought about Ansi$ and OEM$?

Bye, Joe

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List Member "EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" <JoeHurst@snafu.de> wrote:
>    ASSEMBLER routines in GFA-16: So far GlobalDosAlloc/ AllocSelector/
> Changeselector/ Call have worked including W95/98. Will this not work in
> GFA32 or Win2000?
Sure, these things will work further, because this is API. But to display all
sorts of JPG, you need hard coded stuff in C / Assembler.

>   The reason the dialog program is shareware is only for me to see what may
> be involved in starting a shareware page. If it does not become too much of
> a diversion (meaning general traffic--not GFA people), I have more serious
> shareware projects planned. Regarding GFA-specific tools, it seems a
> possible way for me to make a contribution.
I'll take a look on it. Perhaps it pleases me and I do a german release? :-)

>   Sorry for a long message in the wrong language...
Not he major problem.

Bye, Joe

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List Member UlliStemmeler@t-online.de (Ulli Stemmeler) wrote:
HI,

to explain the problem (see my last eMail):

a function called "@getShortName(longName$)" gives back an empty string, =
if a
german letter like "=E4" or "=FC" was used (in the filename or in a folde=
rs name in=20
the directory of the file).

here=B4s the function (I found her some months ago in the net):

FUNCTION GetShortName$(LongName$)  //get short name of a long name
  LOCAL ShortName$=3DSTRING$(260,0)
  LongName$ =3D LongName$ + CHR$(0)
 =20
  NTR($21,_AX=3D$7160,_CL=3D1,_CH=3D0,_DS=3DHIWORD(V:LongName$),_SI=3DLOW=
ORD(V:LongName$),
_ES=3DHIWORD(V:ShortName$),_DI=3DLOWORD(V:ShortName$)) // belongs to the =
former line

  IF BTST(_FL,0) =3D FALSE  //Carry-Flag not set
    RETURN CHAR{V:ShortName$}   =20
  ELSE
    RETURN ""
  ENDIF
ENDFUNC

the function is called by another function "@fsel(parameters)" that finds=
 the=20
"long file name (Win 95)"=20

Any idea ??

Ulli Stemmeler
M=FCnster/Germany

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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
DLGANI.ZIP by Eberhard Funck has been updated this morning. Now allows
adjusting the size of an animated cursor.
DON'T MISS IT!
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Can anyone help Dave?
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Hi Dale, been on holiday and just got your note about new files on the
GFAWHELP(16/7/99). I am still trying to get long filenames to work on NT, so
I was straight on to the GFAWHELP but can't find it (possibly me being
stupid and looking in the wrong place). Where do I look ?.
Thanks
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List Member "Malcolm Jack Howard" <machoward@bigpond.com> wrote:
Is there an example program using colours in gfa for Windows?

I'm having trouble producing colours that are consistent on different PCs.
Users are complaining that colours are significantly different to those I
use with getnearest. For example, I use getnearest(150,130,255) for a light
blue. That's fine on my PC and my Win 3.1 PC but others are complaining it's
grey with no hint of blue.

I also note that gfa win only seems to be capable of 256 colours even though
my PC is set to 65k. Is this right or am I doing something hopelessly wrong?

Thanks

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> List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> Can anyone help Dave?
> ------------------------------------------
> Hi Dale, been on holiday and just got your note about new files on the
> GFAWHELP(16/7/99). I am still trying to get long filenames to work on NT, so
> I was straight on to the GFAWHELP but can't find it (possibly me being
> stupid and looking in the wrong place). Where do I look ?.
> Thanks
> Dave

Hi Dale,
I was faced with the same problem some months ago and had gotten a great help
 from Roland Walter & Eberhard Funk( he is the real expert on this issue). 
Maybe the attached test routine for longfilename dialogs on NT &W95
is helping Dave. This is summarizing the outcome of my investigations at that time. 
Bye Juergen


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List Member Bueckmann.W@t-online.de (Bueckmann.W) wrote:
I'd like to get all the Disks on the PC.

For this I'm using an Interrupt:

  For lw% =3D 3 To 26 /* the german alphabet has 26 letters */
    ~Intr($21,_ah =3D $44,_al =3D $8,_bl =3D lw%)
    If _ax <> 15
      lwg$ =3D lwg$ + Chr$(64 + lw%)
    EndIf
  Next lw%

at least every 3rd time I get an error=20

"peek/poke/call adress wrong"

but sometimes it runs !!

Does somebody have an Idea what's wrong ??

Help welcome !!

Regards / M.f.G.     Wilhelm B=FCckmann
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
/* select0.lst  Dean Hodgson/TomR.
'This example uses a single select listbox with single-click selection

'Open a dialog with a listbox and a button in it
lbstyle% = LBS_STANDARD
DIALOG #0,70,5,147,229,"Choose filenames"
  CONTROL "",100,"listbox",lbstyle%,10,10,120,142
ENDDIALOG
SHOWDIALOG #0

'Get actual directory-path
path$ = DIR$(0)
'path$ = "c:\"

'Get the directory in the listbox (dirs + drives + files)
'$4010 = DDL_DRIVES | DDL_DIRECTORY | DDL_READWRITE
/* $0010 dirs/files
/* $4000 drives only
/* $4010 drives/dirs/files
/* $8000 don't even think about it!
/* $8010 dirs only
/* $0000 read/write, no attribs
/* $0001 read-only files
/* $0002 hidden files
/* $0004 system files
/* $0020 archives
/* $2000 LB_DIR flag
/* $4000 drives
/* $8000 exclusive bit
/* same for combobox/listbox
~DlgDirList(DLG(0),path$,100,0,$4010)

e! = FALSE
REPEAT
  GETEVENT                              'scan for an event
  IF _Mess = WM_COMMAND
    IF HIWORD(_lParam) = LBN_SELCHANGE    'is it a single click?
      BEEP
      e! = TRUE                           'then exit
    ENDIF
  ENDIF
UNTIL e! <> FALSE

'get filename
'allocate buffer to receive string
f$ = SPACE$(255) + CHR$(0)
'get selected filename into buffer
~DlgDirSelect(DLG(0),V:f$,100)
'trim off ending 0 and spaces
f$ = TRIM$(ZTRIM$(f$))

'close the dialog
CLOSEDIALOG #0

f! = FALSE
'open window to display the file selected
OPENW #1
PRINT "Selected filename:"
PRINT f$
DEFPUSHBUTTON "OK",IDOK,20,50,64,24
REPEAT
  GETEVENT                                              'scan
  IF _Mess = WM_COMMAND AND _wParam = IDOK THEN f! = TRUE     'button click
  IF MENU(1) = 4 THEN f! = TRUE                             'trapclose
UNTIL f! = TRUE
CLOSEW #1
END

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
' sel_drv.lst - detects & describes installed drives, single-click
' selects just 1.  Non-HD drives must have a disk inserted before
' selection or *BOOM!!*  TomR. 3 Oct 1998
lbstyle% = LBS_STANDARD
avx& = GetSystemMetrics(SM_CXFULLSCREEN)
ahy& = GetSystemMetrics(SM_CYFULLSCREEN)
posx& = INT(avx& - 323) / 2
posy& = INT(ahy& - 123) / 2
DLG 3D ON
DIALOG #0,posx&,posy&,323,123,"These drives are on your system - click 1:"
  CONTROL "",100,"listbox",lbstyle%,10,10,300,80
ENDDIALOG
SHOWDIALOG #0
@Drv_Sel()
e! = FALSE
REPEAT
  GETEVENT                              'scan for an event
  IF _Mess = WM_COMMAND
    IF HIWORD(_lParam) = LBN_SELCHANGE    'is it a single click?
      e! = TRUE                           'then exit
    ENDIF
  ENDIF
UNTIL e! <> FALSE
f$ = SPACE$(255) + CHR$(0)
~DlgDirSelect(DLG(0),V:f$,100)
f$ = TRIM$(ZTRIM$(f$))
Do$ = UCASE$(MID$(f$,7,1)) // drive selected
CLOSEDIALOG #0
DLG 3D OFF


' list1b9c.lst  get drive info & contents
tit$ = " This display exists only so you can see that I'm working for you."
tet$ = tit$ + ".. it may take me a few minutes!"
TITLEW #1, tet$
OPENW #1,2,2,_X - 5,_Y - 5,48                        //for windows
DEFMOUSE 2
SETMOUSE 450,50
drv& = _DRIVE
der$ = DIR$(0)
SHELL "vol " + Do$ + ": > label.dat"
CHDRIVE drv&
CHDIR der$

OPEN "o",#2,Do$ + "_001.DAT"

SETFONT OEM_FIXED_FONT          //for windows
@listdir(Do$ + ":\*.*",1)
PRINT STRING$(25,"#")
PRINT #2, STRING$(25,"#")
PRINT @get_date$() + " @ " + @tim$()
PRINT #2, @get_date$() + " @ " + @tim$()
OPEN "i",#1,"label.dat"
'WHILE NOT EOF(#1)
FOR pc1% = 1 TO 35
  IF EOF( #1) THEN GOTO Uscire
  INPUT #1,a$
  '  pc1% ++
  '  IF pc1% > 33 THEN GOTO Uscire
  VNam$ = VNam$ + a$
  'WEND
NEXT pc1%
Uscire:
CLOSE #1
VNam$ = RIGHT$(VNam$, LEN(VNam$) - 2)
'VNam$ = LEFT$(VNam$,LEN(VNam$) - 2)
'chm% = INSTR(VNam$,"  ")
'VNam$ = LEFT$(VNam$, chm%)
'VNam$ = "Volume in drive C is: [ " + VNam$ + " ]"
len2% = len1% / 1024
len1$ = "Space used by files = " + STR$(len2%,10) + " Kb"
'PRINT VNam$
PRINT len1$
PRINT #2, VNam$
PRINT #2, len1$
DLL #3,"disksize.dll"
  DECL LONG DiskSize(l)
ENDDLL
df% = ASC(Do$) - 64
PRINT "Free Space: " + STR$(ROUND(DFREE(df%) / 1024 / 1024,2)) + " Mb"+ "
Size: "+STR$(ROUND(^DiskSize(Do$) / 1024 / 1024,2)) + " Mb"
path$ = "LABEL.DAT"
IF EXIST (path$)
  KILL path$
ENDIF
PRINT #2, "Drive ";Do$;":\   Size: ";ROUND(^DiskSize(Do$) / 1024 / 1024,2)
;" Mb";"   ";
PRINT #2, "Free Space: ";ROUND(DFREE(df%) / 1024 / 1024,2);" Mb"
PLAYSOUND "filedone.wav"
DELAY 5
DEFMOUSE 0
'KEYGET k1g%
'KEYGET k2g%
CLOSE #2
END


PROCEDURE listdir(mask$,flag&)
  LOCAL dtasave$
  LOCAL dta% = FGETDTA()
  LOCAL e&,f$,a|,main$,i&
  LOCAL d&,da$,t&,ti$,out$,m$
  main$ = mask$
  i& = RINSTR(main$,"\")
  IF i& = 0 THEN i& = RINSTR(main$,":")
  IF i&
    main$ = LEFT$(main$,i&)
  ELSE
    main$ = ""
  ENDIF
  dtasave$ = PEEK$(dta%,44)
  e& = FSFIRST(mask$,$17) //all files
  m$ = main$
  i& = INSTR(m$,"\")
  WHILE e& = 0
    f$ = CHAR{dta% + 30}               //name
    IF LEFT$(f$,1) = "." THEN GOTO SkipMe
    '    a| = PEEK(dta% + 21)            //attribut
    len% = LPEEK(dta% + 26)
    len1% = len1% + len%

    out$ = ""
    out$ = out$ + m$        //remove for name alone
    out$ = out$ + f$ + "  "
    a| = PEEK(dta% + 21)            //attribut
    IF a| & 32
      out$ = out$ + "A"
    ELSE
      out$ = out$ + "-"
    ENDIF
    IF a| & 16
      out$ = out$ + "D"
    ELSE
      out$ = out$ + "-"
    ENDIF
    IF a| & 8
      out$ = out$ + "L"
    ELSE
      out$ = out$ + "-"
    ENDIF
    IF a| & 4
      out$ = out$ + "S"
    ELSE
      out$ = out$ + "-"
    ENDIF
    IF a| & 2
      out$ = out$ + "H"
    ELSE
      out$ = out$ + "-"
    ENDIF
    IF a| & 1
      out$ = out$ + "R"
    ELSE
      out$ = out$ + "-"
    ENDIF
    PRINT out$
    PRINT #2, out$
    out$ = "    "
    d& = DPEEK(dta% + 24)                         //Datum
    da$ = DEC$(d& & 31,2)                       //Tag
    da$ = da$ + "/"
    da$ = da$ + DEC$(SHR&(d&,4) & 15,2)           //Monat
    da$ = da$ + "/"
    da$ = da$ + DEC$(1980 + (SHR&(d&,9) & 127))   //Jahr
    '    out$ = LEFT$(out$ + SPACE$(50),50)      //format to 50 Characters
    out$ = out$ + da$ + " "
    t& = DPEEK(dta% + 22)                         //Zeit
    ti$ = DEC$(SHR&(t&,11) & 31,2)               //Stunde
    ti$ = ti$ + ":"
    ti$ = ti$ + DEC$(SHR&(t&,5) & 63,2)           //Minute
    ti$ = ti$ + ":"
    ti$ = ti$ + DEC$((t& & 31) * 2,2)               //Sekunde
    out$ = out$ + ti$ + " "
    IF ~a| & 16
      out$ = out$ + STR$(len%,10)
    ELSE
      out$ = out$ + "   <DIR>"
    ENDIF
    PRINT out$
    PRINT #2, out$
    PRINT
    IF a| & $10 && flag& && ASC(f$) != 46
      //      PRINT ">>>>";f$
      @listdir(main$ + f$ + "\*.*",flag& + 1)
    ENDIF
    SkipMe:
    e& = FSNEXT()
    //    KEYGET a%
  WEND
  POKE$ dta%,dtasave$                   //For Dos & Windows
RETURN


FUNCTION get_date$()
  LOCAL temp$,ctr%,i%
  LOCAL mon$="JanFebMarAprMayJunJulAugSepOctNovDec"
  LOCAL day$="SunMonTueWedThuFriSat"
  ~INTR($21,_AH = $2A)
  temp$ = MID$(day$,3 * _AL + 1,3) + ", " + STR$(_DL) + " " + MID$(mon$,3 *
_DH - 2,3)
  temp$ = temp$ + " " + STR$(_CX)
  RETURN temp$
ENDFUNC


FUNCTION tim$()
  tm$ = TIME$
  IF VAL(LEFT$(tm$,2)) =< 12 THEN
    tm$ = tm$ + " a.m."
  ENDIF
  IF VAL(LEFT$(tm$,2)) > 12 THEN
    tm1& = VAL(LEFT$(tm$,2)) - 12
    tm1$ = STR$(tm1&),tm2$ = RIGHT$(tm$,6)
    tm$ = tm1$ + tm2$ + " p.m."
  ENDIF
  RETURN tm$
ENDFUNC


PROCEDURE Drv_Sel()
  ' drvtype.lst GetDriveType()
  // from sysinfo.gfw by Michael K. Kroeger, 26 May 93
  DIM msg$(20), drv1a$(25), drv1b$(25)
  DLL #1, "kernel"
    DECL  WORD GetDriveType( w )
  ENDDLL
  drives()
  FOR i& = 0 TO lastline&
    ~SendMessage(DLGITEM(0,100),LB_ADDSTRING,0,msg$(i&))
  NEXT i&
  FREEDLL 1
RETURN


PROCEDURE drives
  Title$ = "Drives"
  lastline& = -1
  FOR j% = 0 TO 25
    SELECT ^GetDriveType( j% )
    CASE DRIVE_REMOVABLE
      lastline& ++
      msg$( lastline& ) = "Drive " + CHR$( 65 + j% ) + " is removable -
insert a disk!"
    CASE DRIVE_FIXED
      lastline& ++
      msg$( lastline& ) = "Drive " + CHR$( 65 + j% ) + " is fixed with "
      // combine into 1 line
      msg$( lastline& ) = msg$( lastline& ) + STR$( INT( DFREE( 65 + j% ) /
1024 ) ) + " KB free"
    CASE DRIVE_REMOTE
      lastline& ++
      msg$( lastline& ) = "Drive " + CHR$( 65 + j% ) + " is remote (CDROM) -
insert a disk!"
    DEFAULT
    ENDSELECT
  NEXT j%
RETURN



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If You need to write yellow on pink:

yellow% =3D RGB(255,255,0)
pink% =3D RGB(255,0,255)
rgbcolor yellow%, pink%

Bernd  fuiax@gmx.net

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>yellow% =3D RGB(255,255,0)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>pink% =3D RGB(255,0,255)</FONT></DIV>
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List Member BDD <BrentDeck@compuserve.com> wrote:
>>>>>
List Member "Malcolm Jack Howard" <machoward@bigpond.com> wrote:
Is there an example program using colours in gfa for Windows?

I'm having trouble producing colours that are consistent on different PCs=
.
Users are complaining that colours are significantly different to those I=

use with getnearest. For example, I use getnearest(150,130,255) for a lig=
ht
blue. That's fine on my PC and my Win 3.1 PC but others are complaining
it's
grey with no hint of blue.
<<<<<<


This is poorly documented, but hinted at in the Windsows SDK description
of the PALETTERGB function. This function does nothing but put a 2 in the=

high
byte of a 32 bit RGB value.

The 2 tells any function which uses an RGB color to search the entire
palette, =

not just the system palette (first 20 values) for the closest match.
Chances are
you are having probems with a 256 color palette.

using GFA functions, you could do this:

colorref%=3D$02000000 | g<<16 | b<<8 | r
RGBCOLOR colorref%

This statement will choose the closest match from the entire palette.
Without the 2, =

it chooses the closes match from the first 20 colors in a 256-color
palette.

If you want a color index, you must use the windows funcion:

colorref%=3D$02000000 | g<<16 | b<<8 | r
index& =3D GetNearestPaletteIndex(hpal&,colorref%)


GFA neglected to include the 2 in their GETNEATEST function,
so the function is worthless.

If you require an exact match to a color which may not be in the palette =
at
all,
you need to add the color to the palette using SetPaletteEntries(). =

Best to choose an index greater than 20 to avoid messing with system
colors.

See Sample Below.
 =


>>>>>>
I also note that gfa win only seems to be capable of 256 colours even
though
my PC is set to 65k. Is this right or am I doing something hopelessly
wrong?
<<<<<<

RGBCOLOR  should work with any size palette.


Brent =




// colrtest.gfw  Brent Deck  7/99
//

DIM red%(50),red&(50),Br&(50)

OPENW # 1
FULLW #1

Brcount& =3D 0

newpal //  create pallette with red tones

FOR x =3D 0 TO 49
  COLOR red&(x)
  PBOX x * 15,0,15 + x * 15,80
NEXT x

COLOR 0,255
TEXT 0,_Y - 50,"HIT ANY KEY TO EXIT"
KEYGET a

CLOSEW #1

END

PROCEDURE newpal

  hh1& =3D SelectPalette(_DC(1),_PAL(1),FALSE)  // foreground this may be=


  FOR aa% =3D 0 TO 49
    red%(aa%) =3D (&hff) + 5 * ((aa% << 8) +  (aa% << 16))
    red&(aa%) =3D 50 + aa%
  NEXT aa%

  ret& =3D SetPaletteEntries(_PAL(1),red&(0),50,V:red%(0)) // modify pale=
tte
entries starting at index of 50

  REALIZE 1

RETURN
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
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List Member Micromiser Software <miser@cde.com> wrote:
Hi Tom,
  Is there a reason for using the "kernel" call to GetDriveType() rather
than the API call to GetDriveType() other than it works/why change it? Any
ideas to prevent the bomb? I tried DOS interrupts, no luck...

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Subject: [gfabasic] colors
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List Member BDD <BrentDeck@compuserve.com> wrote:
Malcomb,

Oops,

I may have been mistaken about the GETNEAREST function.

As the attached program demonstrates, it apparently gets the correct
index when given 3 rgb values.

It's been so long since I've used it, that I've forgotten which statement=
s
have =

problems, and which ones don't. =



Brent

// colgetnr.gfw    Brent  Deck

OPENW #1
FULLW #1
rgbcolor% =3D $00101010
hdc& =3D _DC(1)

FOR index& =3D 0 TO 255
// ****** get the rgb values for an index value
  ret& =3D Escape(hdc&,GETCOLORTABLE,2,V:index&,V:rgbcolor%)
  r% =3D rgbcolor% & $000000ff
  b% =3D (rgbcolor% & $00ff0000 ) >> 16
  g% =3D (rgbcolor% & $0000ff00 ) >> 8

// *******     show indexed color
  COLOR index&
  PBOX 0,index& * 2,200,index& * 2 + 2

// *******     show color found with getnearest
  i2& =3D GETNEAREST(r%  ,g% ,b% )
  COLOR i2&
  PBOX 220,index& * 2,420,index& * 2 + 2
NEXT index&

COLOR 0
PRINT AT(65,10);"hit a key to exit"
KEYGET a
CLOSEW #1
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Hey, Steve
Sorry, I couldn't find the "shortie" for that one so I sent the "longie".
If memory serves, I got that originally from Bev & anything he sends me that
functions (OS-crossing), I mess with only very carefully.

As for the difference... Bev is one of those "do it from scratch" guys that
tend to do some things differently.  I *believe* that the API you mention
is actually directed by Windows to the kernel.  Bev's method just makes sure
it goes where it has to.  I never argue with Bev.

windows.h header file lays 635 API calls out in groups, depending on which
system library they are conserned with.  windowsx.h does some of the same
with message crackers.  The Win3.1SDK helpfile has a ton of calls over the
others mentioned here.  The SDK file is online, but I can send the others
to you if you don't have & want.  A great number of the APIs are only a
little bit different from the "C" counterparts when translated to GFA-W.

I have 2 or 3 other method/sample routines that get the drives, but as far
as I can remember, none of the interrupt calls I've seen work on this P-100.
In fact, very few of those seem to work properly here no matter what they
are intended to do/get.  I *think* it has something to do with getting away
from Win3.1 into Win95.
<G>
TomR.


At 03:22 PM 27/07/99 -0400, you wrote:
>List Member Micromiser Software <miser@cde.com> wrote:
>Hi Tom,
>  Is there a reason for using the "kernel" call to GetDriveType() rather
>than the API call to GetDriveType() other than it works/why change it? Any
>ideas to prevent the bomb? I tried DOS interrupts, no luck...
>
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List Member Micromiser Software <miser@cde.com> wrote:
Hi Tom,
  I like long versions...
  Your reasoning for the "kernel" GetdriveType() call makes perfect sense; I
would do likewise. Your SDK tip gets a star in my list of things to try when
I exhaust quicker possibilities to check drives.

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List Member "Malcolm Jack Howard" <machoward@bigpond.com> wrote:
>it's been so long since I've used it, that I've forgotten which statements
have
problems, and which ones don't.


Thanks a lot Brent. I've carried out some more experiments and the problem
does seem to be restricted to the getnearest instruction.

I read in a message some time ago that there were problems with rgbcolor and
so used getnearest. As far as you are aware, are there no problems with
rgbcolor?

Mac



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List Member BDD <BrentDeck@compuserve.com> wrote:
>>>> =

As far as you are aware, are there no problems with
rgbcolor?
<<<<

To the best of my knowledge , RGBCOLOR works OK,  =

so long as you remember to OR the rgb value with $02000000.

Otherwise it may not return the closest match in a 256 color palette.

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List Member Micromiser Software <miser@cde.com> wrote:
Hi Tom,
I did visit your site TiGeR1.webjump.com this morning (4:40a EST) and pulled
the SDK helpfile.  Other interesting things there too, like your text
extractor (How does it do on .HLP files? <Grin>).

I only had time to give the SDK file a quick glance. I guess we're talking
about DLL calls with DLL names in C header files (?), since I didn't notice
them. Anyway, "There's gold in them there hills..."

To be more specific about my little drive-checking problem: I really just
need to distinguish between the CD-ROM and network drives since
GetDriveType() does everything else (don't care about drives A/B). I found
WNetGetConnection() and NetBiosCall() intriguing.

When I get some time, probably internet searching would produce code to ID
the CD-ROM or Net drives (and now I have two more search words thank you).
Or perhaps someone here has been down this trail already...

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List Member Anthony Watson <awatson@pacifier.com> wrote:
> I really just need to distinguish between the CD-ROM and network
> drives since GetDriveType() does everything else

I don't know how "proper" this is, but when GetDriveType returns the
DRIVE_REMOTE drive type, I use the following code to check if it is a
CD-ROM or network drive:

    cd_flag=0
    ~INTR($2f,_BX=0,_AX=$1500,_ES=0,_DI=0)
    IF _BX<>0
      '** drive: 2=C, 3=D, 4=E, etc.
      ~INTR($2F,_CX=drive,_AX=$150B,_ES=0,_DI=0)
      cd_flag=_AX
    ENDIF                 
    IF cd_flag=0
      '** Network Drive
    ELSE
      '** CD-ROM
    ENDIF

Hope this helps...

Anthony Watson
Mountain Software
support@mountain-software.com
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
At 03:01 PM 28/07/99 -0400, you wrote:
>List Member Micromiser Software <miser@cde.com> wrote:
>Hi Tom,
>I did visit your site TiGeR1.webjump.com this morning (4:40a EST) and pulled
>the SDK helpfile.  Other interesting things there too, like your text
>extractor (How does it do on .HLP files? <Grin>).
>
>I only had time to give the SDK file a quick glance. I guess we're talking
>about DLL calls with DLL names in C header files (?), since I didn't notice
>them. Anyway, "There's gold in them there hills..."
>
>To be more specific about my little drive-checking problem: I really just
>need to distinguish between the CD-ROM and network drives since
>GetDriveType() does everything else (don't care about drives A/B). I found
>WNetGetConnection() and NetBiosCall() intriguing.
>
>When I get some time, probably internet searching would produce code to ID
>the CD-ROM or Net drives (and now I have two more search words thank you).
>Or perhaps someone here has been down this trail already...
>
>-----
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Steve
You're playing in an area that isn't well documented!  I have something 
*somewhere* that is able to distinguish between CD & REMOTE, but have
been unable to find it again.  May have lost it in a HD crash some months
ago but I *think* it's somewhere on 1 of about 150 ZIP100s.

MOST of what is commonly used identifies a SCSI III Zip100 as an "unknown
type", whereas what I sent at least identifies it.  Virtually everything
around calls all CDs simply REMOTE, meaning I guess that they aren't taken
as part of the basic system.

Maybe one of the Knowledge Bases can help, but I gave up long ago on searching
those for *anything* & deleted all of'em.

I will freely admit that I've not dug into ANY networking procedures at all.
I could, I guess (there are 6 computers in this room).  They aren't in any
way hooked to each other tho.  Therein lies one of the mysteries... isn't
a "remote" or "network" drive required to be on another computer by definition?
Still have much to learn in this area.  I'd think that in the absence of any
network software being loaded on bootup, identifying CDs would be simple.

Maybe one can check for networking to be loaded or not & make a decision
based on that as to what a CD is.  If you don't have to go thru any network
software to access it, it sorta has to be "local" in my mind.

Text-getter - lordie, I don't remember <G>.  My guess now is that it will
extract all text from *any* file but formatting is often lost & I never 
figured out how to filter out tons of trash.  One I'm playing with now at
least stays clean until the last significant text & seems to put all trash
at the bottom end of things.
<G>
TomR.

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List Member Sven Kumlin <sven.kumlin@hem.utfors.se> wrote:
Some weeks ago I downloaded the file Des3test, and it works fine when I =
run it as it is (with ECB cryption). But a friend of mine says that CBC =
cryption is much more efficient, so I tried to change the code in order =
to use CBC cryption, but it was impossible to bring it to work.

The Des3.dll is obviously able to handle CBC cryption. Can anyone tell =
me how to do?

Sven Kumlin


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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Any joy stickers on the list that can answer this?

----- Original Message -----
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> Hi,
>
> I'm using GfA-Basic for Dos to make a programma for my Secutity system at
> home.
> For input I will use the Joystick port but now I can't find any command to
> get these parameters for the positioon of the joystick ;-(
> In the past i'm using GfA-Basic for Atari ST and there was the stick(0)
and
> Strig(o)command and I see in GfA-Basic for Dos there's NO command ?
>
> Is there any lpeek or other posebillity to get the joystick position under
> GFA-basic for Dos ??
> Maybe with a little example how to het this ?
>
> You are a great help if it is possible.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Alfred Vossen.
>
>
>



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List Member "EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" <JoeHurst@snafu.de> wrote:
> at least every 3rd time I get an error 
> 
> "peek/poke/call adress wrong"
> 
> but sometimes it runs !!
Perhaps a drive with changeable media (CD-ROM, ZIP)

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List Member "EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" <JoeHurst@snafu.de> wrote:
> I'm having trouble producing colours that are consistent on different PCs.
> Users are complaining that colours are significantly different to those I
> use with getnearest. For example, I use getnearest(150,130,255) for a light
> blue. That's fine on my PC and my Win 3.1 PC but others are complaining it's
> grey with no hint of blue.
Colors depend a) on the grafix adapter and b) through GetNearest on the settting
for the number of colors of the grafix-adapter and c) (very important) the
lightness and color-contrast the user set to his monitor.


> I also note that gfa win only seems to be capable of 256 colours even though
> my PC is set to 65k. Is this right or am I doing something hopelessly wrong?
With RGB(r,g,b) you can access 256*256*256 colors, even with GFAWIN.
Use the command RGBCOLOR RGB(r,g,b) to access those colors. The command COLOR
isn't very pretty...

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List Member "EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" <JoeHurst@snafu.de> wrote:
DES3.DLL by Stefan Wolf?
It can to simple DES (what is hard to crack) and Triple-DES (what is not
possible to crack in lifetime on a single PC). If Triple-DES is the same as your
CBC (Cyclic B? C?), this is surely better (and works fine with the DES3.DLL by
Stefan Wolf); AFAIK Roland Walter wrote an example of how to use it.

Bye, Joe

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List Member Bueckmann.W@t-online.de (Bueckmann.W) wrote:
Thank you Tom, that was very kind !!

This smiley is only for you !!!

           :-)     =20


But there are still some questions left:

Why do I get the Error ( only sometimes, normally it goes ) ?=20

Do you ( someone ) get the error, too ?

Another $21 Intr. error I find is:

  ~Intr($21,_ah =3D $36,_dl =3D 0) /* dl=3D0 the actually disk */
  Clusterl% =3D _ax * _cx

On a Fat32 System I get the wrong answer 32Kb ( on my System ) instead of=
 4Kb.

Where can I find further information of the win32 kernel functions (varia=
bles)??

This part of Windows is very new for me ( coming from Atari -> Dos -> WIN=
95 )!!

Yearning for reply=20

Willi

Regards / M.f.G.     Wilhelm B=FCckmann
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
28/07/99 06:35:00 PM   UU problems   2807zz1-

File generated by UU examples on Roland's website, will NOT unzip.
begin 644 MERGE10.ZIP (has 57 char/line)
M!!0````(`,N;02'.7TU=F0```+@````+`"0`1DE,15])1"Y$25H*`"``
M``$`&```HUW7M:^[`0#(>?&0]+T!H.@8_>CTO0$+S\SS32U*3U4PU#-4
123456789|123456789|123456789|123456789|123456789|1234567

Standard UUencoded file, will unzip.
begin 666 merge10.zip (has 61 char/line)
M4$L#!!0````(`,N;02'.7TU=F0```+@````+`"0`1DE,15])1"Y$25H*`" `
M``````$`& ``HUW7M:^[`0#(>?&0]+T!H.@8_>CTO0$+S\SS32U*3U4PU#-4
123456789|123456789|123456789|123456789|123456789|123456789|1

Has anybody played with these?  The files are identical except that 
the GFA-W-generated file is missing the 2nd thru 5th char in each 
line.  I've not been able to get this straightened out.

XferPro won't decode the GFA-W encoded file, WinZip won't unzip the 
resulting UU file generated by the GFA-W routine.

I would sure appreciate some help on this.
<G>
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List Member "Russell Hayward" <tarquin@baphead.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
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Hi Everybody,

I've always found the easiest way to find out whether the drive is a CD is to
use GetDriveType. The Windows 95, 32-bit, version of GetDriveType is quite
different from the 16-bit one. If you use WOW you can use it. I've attached a
listing that shows the differences. A big difference is that the 32-bit version
version takes as its parameter the address of a string containing the root path
of the drive. It also returns more info:

DRIVE_UNKNOWN=0
DRIVE_NO_ROOT_DIR=1
DRIVE_REMOVABLE=2
DRIVE_FIXED=3
DRIVE_REMOTE=4
DRIVE_CDROM=5     :-)
DRIVE_RAMDISK=6

HTH,
Russell Hayward

----- Original Message -----
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Subject: [gfabasic] DRIVES.ZIP


> List Member Micromiser Software <miser@cde.com> wrote:
> Hi Tom,
> I did visit your site TiGeR1.webjump.com this morning (4:40a EST) and pulled
> the SDK helpfile.  Other interesting things there too, like your text
> extractor (How does it do on .HLP files? <Grin>).
>
> I only had time to give the SDK file a quick glance. I guess we're talking
> about DLL calls with DLL names in C header files (?), since I didn't notice
> them. Anyway, "There's gold in them there hills..."
>
> To be more specific about my little drive-checking problem: I really just
> need to distinguish between the CD-ROM and network drives since
> GetDriveType() does everything else (don't care about drives A/B). I found
> WNetGetConnection() and NetBiosCall() intriguing.
>
> When I get some time, probably internet searching would produce code to ID
> the CD-ROM or Net drives (and now I have two more search words thank you).
> Or perhaps someone here has been down this trail already...
>
> -----
> Steve Thornton
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cd$=3D"D:\"
cdnum&=3DASC(LEFT$(cd$))-65

? "Using GFA: ";GetDriveType(cdnum&)

DLL #1,"kernel"
  DECL LONG GetDriveType(W)
ENDDLL
? "Using DLL:";^GetDriveType(cdnum&)
FREEDLL 1

DLL #1,"kernel"
  ' =
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
  ' Declare WOW functions from the 16-bit kernel
  ' =
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
  DECL DWORD LoadLibraryEx32W(L,L,L)
  DECL BOOL FreeLibrary32W(L)
  DECL DWORD GetProcAddress32W(L,L)
ENDDLL
lpf32% =3D GetProcAddress(GetModuleHandle("kernel"),"CallProc32W")
hkernel32% =3D ^LoadLibraryEx32W("kernel32.dll", 0, 0)

cd$=3Dcd$+CHR$(0)
? "Using WOW: ";P:(lpf32%)(L:V:cd$, =
L:^GetProcAddress32W(hkernel32%,"GetDriveTypeA"),L:%1,L:1)

~^FreeLibrary32W(hkernel32%)
FREEDLL 1

KEYGET a%
CLOSEW #1

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List Member Micromiser Software <miser@cde.com> wrote:
Hi Anthony,

Hey, if it works I could care less about proper! Your method does work on
four systems here, which is the best I got so far. Thanks! It will be a
while before I can get it fully tested, will let you know.

I don't understand the function of the BX register. My QUE DOS reference
doesn't say anything and doesn't even have $150B. All my systems init CD-ROM
during DOS boot. I wonder if this works if inited in WIN95?

Here's the routine I will test...

PROCEDURE DRIVETYPE  'A work-in-progress...
  LOCAL A|,D|,T|,V$,F$,M%,DTA%
  DTA%=FGETDTA()
  ERASE DR|()
  DIM DR|(26) 'Global
  FOR D|=3 TO 26
    T|=GetDriveType(D|-1)
    IF T|=4 THEN 'Check cdrom (Anthony Watson)
      ~INTR($2f,_BX=0,_AX=$1500,_ES=0,_DI=0) '???
      IF _BX<>0
        ~INTR($2F,_CX=D|-1,_AX=$150B,_ES=0,_DI=0)
        IF _AX<>0 THEN T|=5
      ENDIF
    ELSE IF T|=3
      F$=CHR$(D|+64)+":\*.*",M%=FSFIRST(F$,8)
      IF M%=0 THEN
        V$="",A|=30 'Below gets the volume label
        DO WHILE A|<42 AND PEEK(DTA%+A|)>0
          V$=V$+CHR$(PEEK(DTA%+A|)),A|++
        LOOP
        IF INSTR(V$,"RAMDR") OR INSTR(V$,"Windrive") THEN
          T|=6  'ramdrive.sys, Hurricane. Additions welcome
        ENDIF
      ENDIF
    ENDIF
    DR|(D|)=T|  '0=unused 3=local 4-network 5-cdrom 6-ramdrive
  NEXT D|
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List Member Micromiser Software <miser@cde.com> wrote:
Hi Russel,

Thanks for the info on WIN32 GetDriveType(). Of course that's the right way.
I'd like to try the DOS interrupt method first since it would work on 16-bit
even though using the dreaded INTR. I know, 16-bit is practically dead. I
still get a few now and then...

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List Member Anthony Watson <awatson@pacifier.com> wrote:

> I don't understand the function of the BX register.

I don't have a clue what it's function is either. I don't even know where
I got that code from. One of those things I've just had around and been
using for some time.

> I wonder if this works if inited in WIN95?

I've used the code I sent you under Windows 3.1 and Windows 95. Seems to
work fine on both.

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Another "me to you".  I'll try again tonight to get this file
uploaded for you joystickers & timing fanatics.  Calls are in
16-bit VB.

Is allmmiav.zip, 342K, Contains 3 helpfiles, etc.  Am encountering
problems uploading in the heat of the day.  Have had trouble with
e-mail for about 2 weeks now.

If I can't get it up there this evening, I'll try again about 2:00
in the morning (my time - I'm GMT+6).
<G>
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
At 11:58 PM 28/07/99 +0200, you wrote:
>List Member Bueckmann.W@t-online.de (Bueckmann.W) wrote:
>Thank you Tom, that was very kind !!
>
>This smiley is only for you !!!
>
>           :-)     =20
>
+++ Thank you, Sir - ALL are accepted! <G>
>
>But there are still some questions left:
>
>Why do I get the Error ( only sometimes, normally it goes ) ?=20
>
>Do you ( someone ) get the error, too ?
>
+++ Did you catch Joe's response to this?  I have a feeling that the call
you guys are using is related to the examples given in GFA-W's helpfile &
manuals.  Those query each drive directly, I think.  Any floppy or=
 removeable
drive not containing a disk will cause an error.  Mine tolerlates this.  For
some reason, a great many BIOS calls get errors, too - I think that they are
good only on Win3.1 for the most part.  The one(s) GFA put out will bomb any
computer that doesn't have a disk in A: &/or B: if they're installed.  It=20
also bombs if there is no disk in my SCSI III Zip100.  I *think* the CD is=
=20
the only drive it will tolerate being empty.  One must be certain to NOT=
 query
(or "poll") A: or B: - a disk in either can freeze a boot.
>
>Another $21 Intr. error I find is:
>
>  ~Intr($21,_ah =3D $36,_dl =3D 0) /* dl=3D0 the actually disk */
>  Clusterl% =3D _ax * _cx
>
>On a Fat32 System I get the wrong answer 32Kb ( on my System ) instead of=
 4Kb.
>
+++ Oh, lordie!  "Cluster" =3D "Ball Buster"!  I think this is another MS=
 plot to
drive programmers crazy!  Perhaps somebody with a 32-bit language can answer=
 to
this - I'm not seeing anything usefull anywhere.  I long ago deleted all of=
 the
Knowledge Base files I had because I couldn't find anything I needed in=
 them.
>
>Where can I find further information of the win32 kernel functions
(variables)??
>
>This part of Windows is very new for me ( coming from Atari -> Dos -> WIN95=
 )!!
>
>Yearning for reply=20
>
>Willi
>
>Regards / M.f.G.     Wilhelm B=FCckmann

One other thing... you "yearn" for a reply, well, here one is.  You forgot=
 to
mention that you wanted a "meaningful", "usefull" reply.  Hope I was=
 helpfull
anyway.
<G>
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List Member Micromiser Software <miser@cde.com> wrote:
Hi Tom,
Thanks for the Zip100 code. Not a problem for me now, probably will be.

>I will freely admit that I've not dug into ANY networking procedures at all.
>I could, I guess (there are 6 computers in this room).  They aren't in any
>way hooked to each other tho.

I'm surprised to find a developer with non-networked stations in the same
room, though I'm sure you have good reasons. I would be lost without at
least 4 networked stations on my desk (the 5th keyboard is problematic).
Would it benefit you (or anyone) to list some of the not-so-obvious benefits?

There's a free network program named Invisible LAN which will network
DOS/3.1/95 together easily. I've set up 100+ stations dictating over the
phone with it, and I'm no expert. Under W95 Rev B (if not the server) you
just network in DOS and Win95 recognizes it automatically. Cards cost $15. I
would be glad to help you (or any GFAer) set this up. But again, not to
imply it would benefit you not knowing your situation.

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
At 04:55 AM 29/07/99 -0400, you wrote:
>List Member Micromiser Software <miser@cde.com> wrote:
>Hi Tom,
>Thanks for the Zip100 code. Not a problem for me now, probably will be.
>
>>I will freely admit that I've not dug into ANY networking procedures at=
 all.
>>I could, I guess (there are 6 computers in this room).  They aren't in any
>>way hooked to each other tho.
>
>I'm surprised to find a developer with non-networked stations in the same
>room, though I'm sure you have good reasons. I would be lost without at
>least 4 networked stations on my desk (the 5th keyboard is problematic).
>Would it benefit you (or anyone) to list some of the not-so-obvious=
 benefits?
>
+++ <G>  Mornin, Steve.  Everything I do is out of my own pocket & I'm on
100% disability so there's very little loose change around here.  I run a=
 P100
all of the time unless I need something special, then I go to the 486SX25. =
 It
& one of the 386s run Win3.1.  Another has it, but doesn't like it.  Then=
 there
are the TRS80 Model 4 & the MAC Plus.  Little by little I'm getting=
 everything
off the last two onto the P-100 or 486.  Most transfers take place via=
 ZIP100s
so I've never given networking a thought.  The Model 4 I "download" by=
 printing
everything as text, then run it thru OCR.  It's all genealogy-oriented.

When I was in Hilo, HA, only the newspaper had better graphics than I have=
 on
the 486.  I was shooting microfilm to it.  I got into programming simply=
 because
I couldn't afford to pay some jerk $5,000 for a simple *.jpg display/print=
 appl.

I went belly up because I couldn't pay for help.  Br=F8derbund is now=
 producing
the film images & getting fat(ter!), but I still have my account at the U.S.
National Archives.
>
>There's a free network program named Invisible LAN which will network
>DOS/3.1/95 together easily. I've set up 100+ stations dictating over the
>phone with it, and I'm no expert. Under W95 Rev B (if not the server) you
>just network in DOS and Win95 recognizes it automatically. Cards cost $15.=
 I
>would be glad to help you (or any GFAer) set this up. But again, not to
>imply it would benefit you not knowing your situation.
>
+++ <G> I run the electric bill up pretty good as it is.  Thank you for the=
=20
offer, but *my* "operation" wouldn't justify it.  There *are* several who=
 are
working with networks on the list, so you may get tapped for help.
>-----
>Steve Thornton
>

<G>
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List Member BDD <BrentDeck@compuserve.com> wrote:
>>>>
Use the command RGBCOLOR RGB(r,g,b) to access those colors. The command
COLOR
isn't very pretty...
<<<<


Better yet, use  RGBCOLOR   RGB(r,g,b) | $02000000.
You can't be certain what color res the user will have.

Brent
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List Member BDD <BrentDeck@compuserve.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
There's a free network program named Invisible LAN which will network
DOS/3.1/95 together easily. I've set up 100+ stations dictating over the
phone with it, and I'm no expert. Under W95 Rev B (if not the server) you=

just network in DOS and Win95 recognizes it automatically. Cards cost $15=
.
I
would be glad to help you (or any GFAer) set this up. But again, not to
imply it would benefit you not knowing your situation.
<<<<<

Hi steve,

I'm haven't used a network in years, but I have an industrial embedded
controller which =

I'll be setting up for a customer, and would like to connect to customer'=
s
NT server for
data file mainenance.

I'll probably use DOS. as the embedded OS. Are there any caveats
suggestions, =

driver reccommendations?

I might use WIn 3.1 or 95 if I knew how to guaaratee real time performanc=
e.
Any advice in that regard?

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Hi:

Here's a couple of programs I found that are for the joystick; hope they
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                                                   ->Bev<--

----- Original Message -----
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> List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> Any joy stickers on the list that can answer this?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Alfred Vossen <digi2000@geocities.com>
> To: <adbryant@gfa.net>
> Sent: Friday, July 23, 1999 3:31 AM
> Subject: Joystick parameters under GFA-Basic for Dos
>
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'm using GfA-Basic for Dos to make a programma for my Secutity system
at
> > home.
> > For input I will use the Joystick port but now I can't find any command
to
> > get these parameters for the positioon of the joystick ;-(
> > In the past i'm using GfA-Basic for Atari ST and there was the stick(0)
> and
> > Strig(o)command and I see in GfA-Basic for Dos there's NO command ?
> >
> > Is there any lpeek or other posebillity to get the joystick position
under
> > GFA-basic for Dos ??
> > Maybe with a little example how to het this ?
> >
> > You are a great help if it is possible.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Alfred Vossen.
> >
> >
> >
>
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
I could not get it to unzip either. Was it on Rolands site?
Dale


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> File generated by UU examples on Roland's website, will NOT unzip.
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List Member Micromiser Software <miser@cde.com> wrote:
Hi Brent,
I don't know anything about NT or what "industrial embedded" means. If I
knew which controller, I might be able to tell you if Invisible LAN has a
driver. But then there are obscure variations within controller mod#'s that
require driver compatibility, so you never know until you try.

The controllers I'm familiar with are (lately) incidental in cost, so I
first locate a driver that works with the network software being used, then
buy whichever card it likes. If more than one, I use the one that likes the
cheapest card (usually the NE2000 driver). 10mbps at $15 is the same as
10mbps at $150, each "feature" adds incompatibility, and lightning strikes
only cost $15.

Of course you know NT will like to talk to W95 best, and W95 will have the
most drivers. I tried to find a 100mbps solution for DOS/W95 (requires
driver for DEC controller). I found theoretical solutions, but never enough
info to justify a good test. So if the wiring supports 100mbps, that might
be a reason to use W95.

P.S. Am anxious to try "ORing" my RGB's <g>.

-----
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List Member BDD <BrentDeck@compuserve.com> wrote:
>>I don't know anything about NT or what "industrial embedded" means. <<

In this case, "embedded" is just a normal Intel-based DOS computer with a=

typical AMI bios, =

hooked to a machine to on the shop floor.

I resist moving to w95 or even W16 because of longer boot times and my
uncertainty
regarding unscheduled interrupts for system functions on  WIN 3.1/95/NT.

If anyone has any info on the latter subject, I'm all ears.

Brent.
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
At 11:08 AM 29/07/99 -0700, you wrote:
>List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
>I could not get it to unzip either. Was it on Rolands site?
>Dale
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
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>> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> 28/07/99 06:35:00 PM   UU problems   2807zz1-
>>
>> File generated by UU examples on Roland's website, will NOT unzip.
+++++++++++++++++
Yep.
It's good, but drops char 2 thru 5 from each line.  This goes for both,
encode & decode.  I haven't figured out the complex get 3, make 4 way
of doing the coding.
<G>
TomR.

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
HELPDECO dissects HLP help files of Windows 3.0, 3.1, 3.11, and '95 and many
MVB multi media viewer titles into all files required for a rebuild using
the appropriate help compiler HC30, HC31, HCP, HCW, HCRTF, WMVC, MMVC or MVC:
HPJ - help project file, use as parameter when calling help compiler
MVP - multi media project file, parameter for multi media help compiler
RTF - text file containing whole content of help file and all footnotes
PH  - phrases file (same as produced by help compiler)
ICO - icon of help file if embedded
BMP/WMF/SHG/MRB - embedded pictures in appropriate format
Baggage - all baggage files contained in help file
* FREEWARE by <a
href="mailto:100326.2776@compuserve.com">100326.2776@compuserve.com (Manfred
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List Member Micromiser Software <miser@cde.com> wrote:
Hi Tom,
Top of the day to you too!

I knew you'd have a good reason not to network. And you do. I have a couple
of Atari 8-bits in the corner, and I confess they are not networked either.

Ok, not to let you off too easy, I noticed you've played with NVIEW16.DLL.
Do you know any way of preventing that dag-blamed "error" popup from coming
up when it can't decode a JPG?

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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
HI Tom,
I use HELPDECO a lot. It works very well.
Dale

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
At 04:49 PM 29/07/99 -0700, you wrote:
>List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
>HI Tom,
>I use HELPDECO a lot. It works very well.
>Dale
>
>Subject: [gfabasic] HELPDECO
>

I found it recently, but forgot about it when somebody asked me about 
reducing a helpfile to text.

I may have to restrict my e-mail activity to nightime - I can hardly
get online during daylight now & I'm on AT&T & have 4 numbers to use.
Tulsa is something like 12th largest city in the U.S. now.  3 of the
numbers are 56K-capable.  I get a lot of "busy" beeps during the day
around here now.  Every dog on the street must be online on AT&T now.

I *did* get the multimedia files up last evening, so they're available.

Back to figuring out how many lines the VSCROLL slider gets moved.
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
At 07:27 PM 29/07/99 -0400, you wrote:
>List Member Micromiser Software <miser@cde.com> wrote:
>Hi Tom,
>Top of the day to you too!
>
>I knew you'd have a good reason not to network. And you do. I have a couple
>of Atari 8-bits in the corner, and I confess they are not networked either.
>
>Ok, not to let you off too easy, I noticed you've played with NVIEW16.DLL.
>Do you know any way of preventing that dag-blamed "error" popup from coming
>up when it can't decode a JPG?
>
+++ I introduced it to GFA-W with the help of Patrik Battig, who translated
the calls for me.  I was using it with LibertyBasic long before.

Error... I know nothing about this off the top of my head, but I'll bet you
will find something wacky about those it won't decode.  In *.jpg3 & *.jpg4,
there were a few liberties taken with coding & there are several appls that
won't accept each other's product as far as *.jpg is conserned.  Getting on
into *.jpg6, there is a new evolvement in the form of "progressive" code &
decode.  You get first a grayscale image, then it fills in with color.  Some
appls flash the whole thing, others bring it up as a B/W, then semi-grayscale
before adding the colors.  It *may* be you are encountering these.  I don't
think Nishita is on top of this development because it's very recent & the
last nviewl16.dll predates the release of the change.  I haven't been on his
new website in several months & altho registering it was supposed to get me 
any developments or changes automatically, I've heard absolutely nothing
from him since I registered over a year ago or so.

The "progressive" isn't supposed to be very common yet, but I run into'em all
the time on the internet.  I'm running Netscape Communicator 4.5 & it allows
them to take form little by little.  I wish to hell everybody would get behind
the *.png movement - smaller files than *.gif, no detail loss or artifact
introduction as w/ *.jpg.  It's FREE, also.  Convert any other format to *.png
& you preserve the original format's charactoristics, dpi, color depth, etc.
Makes a file just a tad larger than *.jpg, but isn't lossy.

The "progressive" version isn't from the JPEG group.  They don't support it
yet as far as I know & it's usually *their* code that is used.
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List Member Barlik@aol.com wrote:
Are you using the same version of 95?
Do both machines have math coprocessors?

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List Member Fietkau <c0028901@nwn.de> wrote:
Hi,
I found no solution for this : to overcome some problems with graphics,
i asked my brother for help. Because he does not like GFA, he wrote a
DLL. To load this 32-bit
DLL he used the GFA32S.DLL.
It worked fine on his PC (W95) but not on mine. I tried it on different
PC's in my
School (W98) and it worked !

I have not the slightest idea where to find the reason !
Can anybody give me a hint ?

Manfred

here are some lines from the mentioned program :
******
DLL #1, "gfa32s.dll"
  DECL LONG LoadLibrary32(L)
  DECL LONG GetProcAddress32(L,L)
  DECL LONG FreeLibrary32(L)
  DECL LONG SelectorOffsetToLinearUnfix(L,L,L)
  DECL LONG SelectorOffsetToLinearFix(L,L,L)
ENDDLL

DLL #2,"kernel"
  ..
  ..
ENDDLL

/

pdl% = ^LoadLibrary32("progdll0.dll")
// pdl% is ZERO on *my* PC   
c_proc% = ^GetProcAddress32(pdl%,"dll0exportfunc@4")  //allgemeine proc
zum testen
c_lasterr% = ^GetProcAddress32(pdl%,"getlasterr@0")
c_clearback% = ^GetProcAddress32(pdl%,"clearbckgrd@8")  //loescht bitmap
c_matvectest%=^GetProcAddress32(pdl%,"testmatvec@16")  //mat*vec
c_matmattest%=^GetProcAddress32(pdl%,"testmatmat@12")  //mat*mat

a.s.o ....

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List Member "RMC" <softprod@hartingdale.com.au> wrote:
Hi Tom,

Where does one get HELPDECO from?


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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Hi Reuben,
I am not Tom but here is the URL.  Just scroll down until you see HelpDeco
Dale


http://www.helpmaster.com/help/devaids.htm

http://gfawhelp.gfa.net
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> List Member "RMC" <softprod@hartingdale.com.au> wrote:
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> Where does one get HELPDECO from?
>
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> Reuben
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List Member Bueckmann.W@t-online.de (Bueckmann.W) wrote:
I liked to play with a DLL so I declared it like this:

Dll #1, "shell32"           =20
  DECL LONG RegCreateKey(l,l,l)
  DECL LONG RegSetValue(l,l,l,l,l)
  DECL LONG RegQueryValue(l,l,l,l)
  DecL Long RegOpenKey(l,l,l)
  DECL LONG RegCloseKey(l)
  DECL LONG RegDeleteKey(l,l)
  DecL Long RegEnumKey(l,l,l,l)
  DecL Long RegOpenKeyEx(l,l,l,l) /* need for folder in folder */
ENDDLL

But even when I tell him the path GFA Basic always says "DLL-Library not =
found"
on 16 bit libraries, too

When I don't want to work with standart libraries ( like kernel,shell ) m=
ust I=20
tell it to the interpreter, too ??

Any meaningful and usefull help welcomed !!

Tom your Help is always like this !!

Regards / M.f.G.     Wilhelm B=FCckmann
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Willi, et.al.
I frequently have trouble with this when running something I've downloaded.
my answer seems to always be:
>Dll #1, "shell32.dll"=20
Adding the extension has always done the trick.  I did NOT install GFA-W in
the Windows directory (stupid idea in my book!), so several things don't
seem to function normally even when the *.dlls are in the appl's dir! =
 Adding
the extension is apparently vital.  Full paths normally aren't necessary
because the system is *SUPPOSED* to look in the appl's dir for things.  When
I decide to make aomething available to other appls, I put them into another
dir that is in my PATH statement on bootup.

I'm curious about problems for those who do NOT have a "c:\windows\" dir at
all - where does GFA install itself in that case?

Why in the world does anybody install NON-system appls in the windows dir?

Thanks to Roland's gfaw.exe, I can run Dale's helpfile from GFA-W, but I=20
can't run GFA-W from the helpfile because it's geared to find GFA-W in the
c:\windows\ dir.

I hope I've put a little light on your problem.  It works for me.
<G>
TomR.



At 01:06 AM 31/07/99 +0200, you wrote:
>List Member Bueckmann.W@t-online.de (Bueckmann.W) wrote:
>I liked to play with a DLL so I declared it like this:
>
>Dll #1, "shell32"           =20
>  DECL LONG RegCreateKey(l,l,l)
>  DECL LONG RegSetValue(l,l,l,l,l)
>  DECL LONG RegQueryValue(l,l,l,l)
>  DecL Long RegOpenKey(l,l,l)
>  DECL LONG RegCloseKey(l)
>  DECL LONG RegDeleteKey(l,l)
>  DecL Long RegEnumKey(l,l,l,l)
>  DecL Long RegOpenKeyEx(l,l,l,l) /* need for folder in folder */
>ENDDLL
>
>But even when I tell him the path GFA Basic always says "DLL-Library not=
 found"
>on 16 bit libraries, too
>
>When I don't want to work with standart libraries ( like kernel,shell )=
 must I=20
>tell it to the interpreter, too ??
>
>Any meaningful and usefull help welcomed !!
>
>Tom your Help is always like this !!
>
>Regards / M.f.G.     Wilhelm B=FCckmann
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List Member "Eberhard Funck" <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de> wrote:
Hi Wilhelm,

1. With GFA Basic you can not declare function from 32 bit DLLs.
    GFA Basic can not found 32 bit DLLs with his intern functions.

If you wanted load a 32 bit function from a 32 bit DLL,
you must work with this lines:



' -----------------------------------------------------------------------=
---
-------
  ' Declare WOW functions from then 16-bits kernel


' -----------------------------------------------------------------------=
---
-------
  DLL #1,"kernel"
    DECL DWORD LoadLibraryEx32W(L,L,L)
    DECL BOOL     FreeLibrary32W(L)
    DECL DWORD GetProcAddress32W(L,L)
  ENDDLL


' -----------------------------------------------------------------------=
---
-------
  ' Obtain procedure adress of CallProc32W by which 32-bits DLL functions
are called.


' -----------------------------------------------------------------------=
---
-------
  lpf32% =3D GetProcAddress(GetModuleHandle("kernel"),"CallProc32W")

2.  Your functions (Reg... ) are not in the SHELL32.DLL.
     You find them in the ADVAPI32.DLL.

Look in my GFA32s.DLL, all these functions are implemented there.

Eberhard



List Member Bueckmann.W@t-online.de (Bueckmann.W) wrote:
I liked to play with a DLL so I declared it like this:

Dll #1, "shell32"
  DECL LONG RegCreateKey(l,l,l)
  DECL LONG RegSetValue(l,l,l,l,l)
  DECL LONG RegQueryValue(l,l,l,l)
  DecL Long RegOpenKey(l,l,l)
  DECL LONG RegCloseKey(l)
  DECL LONG RegDeleteKey(l,l)
  DecL Long RegEnumKey(l,l,l,l)
  DecL Long RegOpenKeyEx(l,l,l,l) /* need for folder in folder */
ENDDLL

But even when I tell him the path GFA Basic always says "DLL-Library not
found"
on 16 bit libraries, too

When I don't want to work with standart libraries ( like kernel,shell ) m=
ust
I
tell it to the interpreter, too ??

Any meaningful and usefull help welcomed !!

Tom your Help is always like this !!

Regards / M.f.G.     Wilhelm B=FCckmann
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Ifranview has been updated. This is a great graphic program and it is free.
Dale

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List Member "FUIAX" <bernd.barwig@mbi-net.de> wrote:
I hope you all send 1 (to ....) Dollars oder "Deutschmarks" *g* to the
developer of irfanview!!!
It's worth! (soll hei=DFen: das ist  es wert...)

Bernd

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> List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> Ifranview has been updated. This is a great graphic program and it is
free.
> Dale
>
> Homepage: http://stud1.tuwien.ac.at/~e9227474/


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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Hi,
Yes, it certainly is worth it. It is a good program.
Dale

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> List Member "FUIAX" <bernd.barwig@mbi-net.de> wrote:
> I hope you all send 1 (to ....) Dollars oder "Deutschmarks" *g* to the
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> It's worth! (soll heien: das ist  es wert...)
>
> Bernd
>
> fuiax@gmx.net
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>
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> > List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> > Ifranview has been updated. This is a great graphic program and it is
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
/***
*bios.h - declarations for bios interface functions and supporting definitions
*
*   Copyright (c) 1987-1992, Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
*
*Purpose:
*   This file declares the constants, structures, and functions
*   used for accessing and using various BIOS interfaces.
*
****/

#ifndef _INC_BIOS

#ifdef __cplusplus
extern "C" {
#endif 

#if (_MSC_VER <= 600)
#define __cdecl     _cdecl
#define __far       _far
#endif 

#ifndef _MT

/* manifest constants for BIOS serial communications (RS-232) support
 */

/* serial port services */

#define _COM_INIT   0   /* init serial port */
#define _COM_SEND   1   /* send character */
#define _COM_RECEIVE    2   /* receive character */
#define _COM_STATUS 3   /* get serial port status */

/* serial port initializers.  One and only one constant from each of the
 * following four groups - character size, stop bit, parity, and baud rate -
 * must be specified in the initialization byte.
 */

/* character size initializers */

#define _COM_CHR7   2   /* 7 bits characters */
#define _COM_CHR8   3   /* 8 bits characters */

/* stop bit values - on or off */

#define _COM_STOP1  0   /* 1 stop bit */
#define _COM_STOP2  4   /* 2 stop bits */

/*  parity initializers */

#define _COM_NOPARITY   0   /* no parity */
#define _COM_ODDPARITY  8   /* odd parity */
#define _COM_EVENPARITY 24  /* even parity */

/*  baud rate initializers */

#define _COM_110    0   /* 110 baud */
#define _COM_150    32  /* 150 baud */
#define _COM_300    64  /* 300 baud */
#define _COM_600    96  /* 600 baud */
#define _COM_1200   128 /* 1200 baud */
#define _COM_2400   160 /* 2400 baud */
#define _COM_4800   192 /* 4800 baud */
#define _COM_9600   224 /* 9600 baud */


/* manifest constants for BIOS disk support */

/* disk services */

#define _DISK_RESET 0   /* reset disk controller */
#define _DISK_STATUS    1   /* get disk status */
#define _DISK_READ  2   /* read disk sectors */
#define _DISK_WRITE 3   /* write disk sectors */
#define _DISK_VERIFY    4   /* verify disk sectors */
#define _DISK_FORMAT    5   /* format disk track */

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List Member Micromiser Software <miser@cde.com> wrote:
Hi Tom,
Thanks for the info on graphic formats, most instructive for me. You are
right, there is a problem with any JPG NVIEW can't decode. I've been using
WECJLIB.DLL for speed and encryption, but it misses about 5% of random JPGs.
NVIEW gets about half of those. I think most who use WECJLIB default to
slower processes in those cases, hence my interest in NVIEW. But the error
popup doesn't fit in with what I'm working on, also I need to show whatever
part of a corrupted file can be shown. I'll probably wind up springing for
IMAGE'N ($265).

I had fun downloading files from your site today. Now I'm a big expert on
file compression <G>. I didn't notice any GFA examples of calling LHA,
though there must be many. I have a short DLL function that does a few
calls. Not very instructive.

Keep up the good work.

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Steve
Do you have the calls for wecjlib.dll?  I lost'em in a HD crash.
Lemme go thru what I have on hand - you can beat Imag'n's price
by quite a bit if *.gif isn't important.

I have only one appl that will load all of a corrupted *.jpg.

Once you have the image in memory as a *.dib, you can do anything
you want to with it.  See Eberhard's latest version - he adopted
nviewl16.dll to get other formats.

If you want, can send you *.lha & other image format info.
<G>
TomR.


At 05:47 AM 01/08/99 -0400, you wrote:
>List Member Micromiser Software <miser@cde.com> wrote:
>Hi Tom,
>Thanks for the info on graphic formats, most instructive for me. You are
>right, there is a problem with any JPG NVIEW can't decode. I've been using
>WECJLIB.DLL for speed and encryption, but it misses about 5% of random JPGs.
>NVIEW gets about half of those. I think most who use WECJLIB default to
>slower processes in those cases, hence my interest in NVIEW. But the error
>popup doesn't fit in with what I'm working on, also I need to show whatever
>part of a corrupted file can be shown. I'll probably wind up springing for
>IMAGE'N ($265).
>
>I had fun downloading files from your site today. Now I'm a big expert on
>file compression <G>. I didn't notice any GFA examples of calling LHA,
>though there must be many. I have a short DLL function that does a few
>calls. Not very instructive.
>
>Keep up the good work.
>
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>Steve Thornton
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List Member Michael Weigand <michael-weigand@foni.net> wrote:
Hi!

I made a dialog with a bitmap as background. Unfortunately static controls
like LTEXT or GROUPBOX have a white background color. Is it possible to
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List Member Micromiser Software <miser@cde.com> wrote:
Hi Tom,
I am emailing the WECJLIB.DLL calls.

Graphic Workshop reads most corrupted files and comes with a JPG16.DLL (no
docs). The TYPE command shows it has a JpegReadFile function. I tried some
likely combinations of parameters but didn't hit the jackpot. Don't know if
they'd let me use it anyway.

I also have one app that reads all my corrupted JPGs: FLMASK (of all
things). It does the best quality compatible re-stores too. Written in 1996.
Strange.

On the display side, StretchDIBits() is not doing the job on some hardware.
Will try your BITBLT method in PVIEW2.GFW.

Yes I would like to be pointed to any JPG 16-bit DLL with docs on calls,
preferably one that accepts a memory bit-stream as input so I can decrypt
quickly. I've already tried everything that was available using obvious
Internet search commands as of 6 months ago. I have all the LHA I need for
now. Wish I had a PKZIP/PKUNZIP DLL.

Orlando weather report: It's hot.

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
At 01:19 PM 01/08/99 -0400, you wrote:
>List Member Micromiser Software <miser@cde.com> wrote:
>Hi Tom,
>I am emailing the WECJLIB.DLL calls.
>
>Graphic Workshop reads most corrupted files and comes with a JPG16.DLL (no
>docs). The TYPE command shows it has a JpegReadFile function. I tried some
>likely combinations of parameters but didn't hit the jackpot. Don't know if
>they'd let me use it anyway.
>
+++ ALL have a JpegReadFile function.  Use it... Steve's bunch is damned hard
to try to discuss anything with.  All is available, but you wouldn't begin
to believe the cost!
>
>I also have one app that reads all my corrupted JPGs: FLMASK (of all
>things). It does the best quality compatible re-stores too. Written in 1996.
>Strange.
>
+++ The guy won't respond to American e-mail.
>
>On the display side, StretchDIBits() is not doing the job on some hardware.
>Will try your BITBLT method in PVIEW2.GFW.
>
>Yes I would like to be pointed to any JPG 16-bit DLL with docs on calls,
>preferably one that accepts a memory bit-stream as input so I can decrypt
>quickly. I've already tried everything that was available using obvious
>Internet search commands as of 6 months ago. I have all the LHA I need for
>now. Wish I had a PKZIP/PKUNZIP DLL.
>
+++ It's available, but what a cost!
>
>Orlando weather report: It's hot.
>
+++ I once passed up a "deal"... 3-1/4 acres of developable swamp for $350.
Figured I'd never see it, so what would I do with it?  Is now downtown
DisneyWorld.  Did the same thing in Pass Christian, MS.  Later was stationed
there in the Air Force.  Was going for $10,000/front foot from BackBay to 
the Gulf.
>-----
>Steve Thornton
>
+++ Tulsa weather report: Hot! Soggy!  Grass is brown & trees are dropping 
leaves.  I go outside for my walks around 4:00 a.m. & its mid-upper 80s.

Have some more on *.dlls = will hunt it up & send.  Rybickie's works on
W32s machines... Win3.1.  Somewhere have the old 16-bit *.dll he dropped.

I was the first to publicly put out image capability other than *.bmp in
two WinBasics.  No recognition, but have the satisfaction.  Joe Hurst &
Roland Walter both followed w/ nviewl16, neither mentioned me or provided
URLs or contacts.  That's life.

Will did later this afternoon - e-mail trouble during daylight.
<G>
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List Member "EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" <JoeHurst@snafu.de> wrote:
Hi Micromiser,

I still finished a thumbnailer/picture-viewer with NVIEWLIB.DLL which displays
jpg, gif, jig, tga, bmp, rle, dib and so on with Visual Basic 5 which is
available in a few days on my home page.
First I try a translation to GFA32.
If you are looking for a viewer for those picture-types in 16-bit, see my "The
MultiMediaTool" in gfa-basic 16 which uses the NVIEWLIB16.DLL.
Both do surely not display corrupted images (any hints for any DLL which does
this crash-handling? Can you send me JPG16.DLL and an equivalent for 32-bit?)

> now. Wish I had a PKZIP/PKUNZIP DLL.
There is an example by Roland Walter using the PKUNZIP.DLL in GFA-16.

> Orlando weather report: It's hot.
Berlin, Germany: it's the hottest july for years...

BTW: Your dialog-DLL does NOT work under Windows NT Service Pack 4. Even the
simplest examples do crash the system!

Bye, Joe


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List Member "EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" <JoeHurst@snafu.de> wrote:
Dale,
would you be so kind to rename your newsletter to
'Not Affiliated With GFA (GFAWIN16)' to leave space for
'Not Affiliated With GFA (GFAWIN32)' (who else than you will that bring out?)
Do you remember? Some time ago we both spoke about this renaming in personal
mail...

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List Member Micromiser Software <miser@cde.com> wrote:
Hi Joe,
   Thanks for mentioning that my dialog DLL doesn't work on NT. People say
my business software doesn't either, so not surprised.

   I will review your graphics apps, though have no immediate need.

> Any hints for any DLL which does this crash-handling

  I have no solution. The best so far is WECJLIB.DLL (very fast) which
returns a zero quickly if it can't read a file, so you can use a secondary
process without losing too much time. NVIEW doesn't work for me because, for
instance, if preloading 500 JPG's with 30 bad ones during a review, the
error popup would be unworkable.

> Can you send me JPG16.DLL and 32-bit equivalent?

  That is part of the Graphic Workshop shareware program, so I am not sure I
am allowed to send it (advice anyone?) But you can download GW 16/32 at
www.davecentral.com/7207.html and it should be included. Tom Record advises
the JPG16.DLL price would be very high.

  Does PKUNZIP.DLL include PKZIP ability?

> Berlin hottest in years...

  Maybe "La Nina" is paying a visit...<g>

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List Member Micromiser Software <miser@cde.com> wrote:
Hi Tom,
Again, your info is interesting and helpful.

Most of the swamp land around here is still swamp land, but worth less
because it's now the natural habitat of something-or-other.

> 4:00 AM walks.

Me too. I like to work all night. I wouldn't trade our snakes, mosquitoes,
and Mbzillions of spiders for your Cat# 5 tornadoes...

Sorry if you were not recognized for your work. And thanks for reminding me
to put up links to your site and Dale Bryant's site.

Quick question: Does CAB have a compatible DOS command-line version? If
AnswerToDosCompatibleCabQuestion()=NULL then goto LHA.

If you have other image DLL's, could you list the names? No sense sending
what I've tried already. But I am not in a hurry to solve image problems.
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
At 11:09 PM 01/08/99 -0400, you wrote:
>List Member Micromiser Software <miser@cde.com> wrote:
>Hi Tom,
>Again, your info is interesting and helpful.
>
>Most of the swamp land around here is still swamp land, but worth less
>because it's now the natural habitat of something-or-other.
>
>> 4:00 AM walks.
>
>Me too. I like to work all night. I wouldn't trade our snakes, mosquitoes,
>and Mbzillions of spiders for your Cat# 5 tornadoes...
>
+++ I ran motor routes for local newspapers for several years.  Drove 175
miles 2wice daily.  Am awake during afternoons & nights still.  Hey, those
"twisters" are usually over in just a few minutes <G>.  Had a particularly
nice one some time back - yeah, it tore up a truck stop east of town, but
it came down 3 mi north of me & took a Baptist church with it to the truck
stop.  That one is featured on Discovery Channel pretty often.  The houses
around the church... untouched!  Makes me wonder about that preacher <G>.
>
>Sorry if you were not recognized for your work. And thanks for reminding me
>to put up links to your site and Dale Bryant's site.
>
>Quick question: Does CAB have a compatible DOS command-line version? If
>AnswerToDosCompatibleCabQuestion()=NULL then goto LHA.
>
+++ Take a gander at what I sent... I almost think it's DOS.  You should
have a whole ton of LHA if you downloaded both archiver files.  You have
something online, give me the URL & I'll add to mine.  Gotta update that
one anyway & might as well get you a little traffic, too.  I only do this
in splurges <G>.
>
>If you have other image DLL's, could you list the names? No sense sending
>what I've tried already. But I am not in a hurry to solve image problems.
>They are secondary projects.
>
+++ Will look'em up.  I spent years looking for that sort of thing.
>
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>

<G>
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
I have fci.h, fci.lib (compression) & fdi.h, fdi.lib (decompression)
files for a *.cab appl.  With MSVC1, I can produce all files required
to make an *.exe or a *.dll, but one mysterious thing occurs in each
attempt... the resulting *.exe does NOT load files to work on.  These
files compile OK, seemingly, but for this one problem.

I also have the *.cab format from Wotsit, but I don't speak "Greek"!

My object: produce the *.obj files so GFA-W can link them into a *.cab
appl, avoiding having to SHELL or EXEC to work with them.

I know NOTHING about VCC, so I can't tell what is missing or where it
should be.

I will provide the files to whomever is familiar with these things &
wants to help make *.cab available to the GFA-W group of users.

Please?  Please?  Please?  Please?  Please?  Please?  Please?  Please?  

<G>
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Hi Joe,
The news letter headers will now carry a WIN16 notification. Thanks for
reminding me.
Dale

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> List Member "EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" <JoeHurst@snafu.de> wrote:
> Dale,
> would you be so kind to rename your newsletter to
> 'Not Affiliated With GFA (GFAWIN16)' to leave space for
> 'Not Affiliated With GFA (GFAWIN32)' (who else than you will that bring
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> Do you remember? Some time ago we both spoke about this renaming in
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List Member "EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" <JoeHurst@snafu.de> wrote:
>   Maybe "La Nina" is paying a visit...<g>
No, simply sun, my wife and my new assistence in office (very short skirts) :-))

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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Now, now!!

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Sooooooo....  There *are* benefits after all <G>
<G>
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Joe Hurst says he is bored because no one has posted a programming problem
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
B.S.!
I've posted a ton of requests for assistance that would benefit the
GFA-W world at large unless I am the only one who doesn't know how
to do what I've ask help with!

Load unlimited filesize into an editor of GFA-W origin.
Add hyperlinks to Roland's formtext.
Load monsterous files into memory for manioulation & editing.
Add *.cab archiving & de-archiving capability to GFA-W.
Straighten out the bugs in the GFA-W UU routines.
Word-check & spell-check vocabularies for a translator.
I can go on & on.

Requests may lag for lack of any response, so if anybody does
actually learn how to do anything, they have valid claim to
being "self-taught"!

I am learning what a fool I've been for making public what
answers I *have* been able to gain.  Very few are interested 
in sharing their knowledge & I'm not going to speculate on
their reasoning.  There are those who refuse to respond to
pleas for help with the very examples they make available.

I am of a different breed... if I know, I like to share.  If
I can help, it is my pleasure to do so.

Joe is one of the extremely few with great knowledge that is
willing to share & teach.  My hat is off to Joe & his few
companion GURUs!
TomR.




At 04:19 PM 03/08/99 -0700, you wrote:
>List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
>Joe Hurst says he is bored because no one has posted a programming problem
>today for him to solve. He says that it is waste of all his great talent.  I
>must, (this hurts) agree with him
>Dale
>
>http://gfawhelp.gfa.net

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List Member Micromiser Software <miser@cde.com> wrote:
Hi Tom,
Great idea to "stir the pot" a little.

So far, I just haven't had any answers. I am waiting for someone to ask a
business-programming question like "I need to check if a string is a number"
or "I need to convert a dollar amount to text," etc.

I have a high cost of trying something new. Usually the questions are "How
do I do this" and not "How do I do this old, simple thing 1,000,000 times on
1,000 different network stations."

Most of my time is spent on system management issues, not programming.
Little to do with GFA, but if anyone has a question on that...

I would also like to thank you, Joe, Dale/GFAWHELP, Anthony Watson, and
others here on "the cutting edge."

P.S. I put links up to your and Dale's page. Don't buy an extra hard drive
yet...I think my link page got a hit back in March sometime <g>.

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List Member Micromiser Software <miser@cde.com> wrote:
Dear list members,
I would like to propose a project during an apparent lull in activity.

I have refused to buy two programming languages in the past because I could
not obtain a good "capacities and limits" list. If others feel that way,
perhaps it would benefit GFA generally to compile such a list. My first
question is: Is there already such a list?

It would benefit me. For instance, it cost me a lot of time to bump into the
literal-string limit of 64K. Had I known, I could have easily avoided it.
Not knowing the $ABIG array index limit cost some user anguish. If there
were a large capacity for DATA statements, you might cram a lot of things
into an EXE when a resource compiler is not suitable. Etc., Etc.

Much of my "F grade" programming style (short variable names, comments,
etc.) is due to not knowing limits (also to avoid compiler bugs--but that's
another list!). Even if a limit is so high nobody would ever reach it, it
helps to know so you don't degrade programming to avoid it. The list itself
is helpful to avoid possible limits you didn't think of.

I offer to maintain the list in HTML or TXT as preferred, and ask if anyone
would volunteer to put it on their web site?

The list would be quite long and never fully complete. But here's a start.
Corrections and additions welcome. Approximations/guesses better than
nothing. Please add items with ??? even if you don't know the limit. I leave
out things that can be increased using the API, e.g. max number of windows:

Code block size                   32K  (main code or procedure)
Max procedures in one source file ???
Max procedures to be compiled     ???
Editor file size                  64K lines (file size ???)
Literal Strings                   64K
Variable name space               ???
Variable name length              ??? (I think it is in the book)
Maximum EXE size                  ???
Max $ABIG arrays                  ???
Max $ABIG array size              ???
Max $ABIG index value             approx 16000-16500. I use 16000.
Number of named variables
  Local                           ??? (as local heap permits?)
  Global                          ???
Data statements
  Number                          ???
  Total size                      ???
Max functions in DLL list         ???
Max parameters in DLL call        ???
Days to 32-bit version            ??? <grin>
There must be many more...

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>I would also like to thank you, Joe, Dale/GFAWHELP, Anthony Watson, and
>others here on "the cutting edge."
>
+++ You're more than welcome, Steve.
>
>P.S. I put links up to your and Dale's page. Don't buy an extra hard drive
>yet...I think my link page got a hit back in March sometime <g>.
>
+++ Gives rise to something new... am seeing reports of hackers managing to
alter online pages that don't belong to them.  A major point of curiosity
would be how the devil can they get past passwords & even usernames.  My
site doesn't reflect my name, username or anything else except my e-mail
adrs in the "mailto:" entry.  *That* doesn't reflect my name, either.
>
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Steve

edittext limit is 32K, is a Windows limitation.

I keep seeing a 32K line limit on listboxes.  I *think* it
was Ophir that stretched it to 64K.

Wanna collaborate on a *real* editor?  Can now load & scroll
2M+, & you'd be surprised at the thousands of lines it'll 
handle.  Am working out keeping track of lines scrolled when
it's done by grabbing the slider & moving it.  Can't work in
massive memory yet, so am forced to edit via lots of HD activity.

Going any bigger with the editor requires altering all variables
to "long (%)" - all are "word (&)" right now but a few.

Have been jumped on for this by purists, but...  You can get
a 25M website on webjump.com & the total cost is letting them
have the top 1" or so for their banner & ads.  I've never 
experienced *any* consoles or popup ads on mine.

<G>
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List Member John Findlay <Jayef@compuserve.com> wrote:

Tom,

Joe is obviously your man, I can't look at short skirts and code at the
same time.

> Load unlimited filesize into an editor of GFA-W origin. <

Here are a few pointers; (yes, pun intended) (no, I'm not back, this is a=

one off)

 Use GlobalAlloc() to allocate a huge moveable mem block.

 Use GlobalLock() to get the pointer. (Unlock it when not in use)

 Load in file using a huge load routine.

 Use GFA's _Huge function to search for starts/ends of lines

 Copy strings into a buffer when needed by using
 the _Huge function so that 64k boundaries are no problem. =


 Use Brents BigMove (uses _Huge) to move large blocks about.

 You can use GlobalReAlloc() to increase the mem block size if needed.

 Stir thoroughly and there you have it, done. :-)

Regards

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
At 03:48 AM 04/08/99 -0400, you wrote:
>List Member John Findlay <Jayef@compuserve.com> wrote:
>
>Tom,
>
>Joe is obviously your man, I can't look at short skirts and code at the
>same time.
>
+++ John, I can't either if they are done at the same time <G>.  Short
skirts are definitely more interesting.  I sure remember the micro-mini
days in Italy back in the early 70s!
>
>> Load unlimited filesize into an editor of GFA-W origin. <
>
>Here are a few pointers; (yes, pun intended) (no, I'm not back, this is a
>one off)
>
> Stir thoroughly and there you have it, done. :-)
>
>Regards
>
>John

+++
"Stir thoroughly..."  Now, *THAT* I can handle <G>.  I'm known for stirring
up trouble, at least.

Am loading & scrolling >2M... >114K lines.  Only problem at the moment is
if somebody grabs the slider w/ the mouse & moves it.  I lose count.  Yes,
I numbered the lines so I can tell if it all gets loaded.  It does.  I
have a lot of variables to change over to "LONG"s to go much further, tho.

The translator will profit from the GLOBAL situation if I can ever get it to
work right - the vocabulary is the file I'm loading.  Searching it on the HD
takes quite a while.  The translator, itself, is making headway, also.

Will look into trying your "outline", but... saying is far easier than my 
doing.  I know... it's the proper way to do this - I knew it all along but
getting things like that to work are difficult in Tulsa <G>.  Especially
for an Okie.

Get well, my friend - I have a thousand questions & desparately need someone
to harrass with them.

<G>
TomR.

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List Member "Bev & Lou Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
Morning Guys:

Hey! can I throw a thought into this; I'm still looking for a way to get the
info from a sector on a FAT32 drive & everything related to it????????????

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List Member Micromiser Software <miser@cde.com> wrote:
Hi Tom,
I've written a word-processor or two (what's new). Maybe I could help.
Probably you're so far beyond this that I'm wasting your time. Oh well...

Are you asking for design help? If so, on what level? Of course John's
overall design is correct, as you've said. I don't understand the problem of
converting short pointers to long ones. Isn't that just a few searches and
replaces? Shows I don't really understand your question. Of course that's
never stopped me before...

The starting point for me would be to write the low-level functions. I would
start with the toughest issue first: 1) a function to allocate memory and
load the file so that I could 2) test a function to increase the buffer and
insert a line. That code would be short enough for an email sample (famous
last words).

Then I would create a 10mb file of random length paragraphs containing
sequence numbers and load it with my load function. Then I would create a
loop to insert lines one at a time. Then let it rip until the computer blows
up. See what you've got regarding 1) speed, 2) how much memory you can
really use, 3) How to stop it in time, and 4) how many Windows bugs will
come into play. I bet Windows won't like moving all that memory around. Once
all that is determined, everything else is within tested limits.

The other issue regarding speed is the "remapping" function, always very
debugged before proceeding since it's the heart of everything. Every thingy
like this I ever did required a loop to remap lines forward from any edited
line, shorter or longer. So I would call a remap function as well in my
speed testing loop.

My main question is, can I play "Flight of the Bumble Bee" on the keyboard
without dropping any "buzzes?" Besides moving memory, Windows messages will
try to prevent this any way they can. And the opposite: holding down the
delete key. Believe it or not, an 8-bit Atari at 2.5Mz doesn't do this too
fast. But there are tricks (too bad I can't remember them!).

Another issue is breaking lines with <Enter> (of course everyone misses that
in the GFA editor). And if I delete characters at the end of a line, will
the next line move up as I delete?

The scroll bar: That is always the very last thing I do, since it is
basically debugged with Up, Dn, PgUp, PgDn, Home, End. Since lines are
mapped, for PgDn for instance, I just add editor height/font height to the
mapped line index and call my display that prints from the new top line so
many lines. Windows does this nicely without any blinks, I must say. Can't
lose track if the mapping function is working. Then I just convert mouse
clicks to my key names.

Would you believe it people have actually accused me of being too blabby
when discussin' these types of things. So are you far beyond this or should
I expand on anything? Or should I just crawl back into my hole...?

In any case, I applaud your goal. It has always been the right kind of
editor to do. I remember the ST had a (simple) word-processor like this. I
loved it so much I kept the ST on the desk for an extra year.

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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Hi Steve,
If you can collect such a list I would be glad to make it available on the
GFAWHELP web site and also to publish it in the news letter.  It is a great
idea and I hope it is successful.
Dale Bryant

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> List Member Micromiser Software <miser@cde.com> wrote:
> Dear list members,
> I would like to propose a project during an apparent lull in activity.
>
> I have refused to buy two programming languages in the past because I
could
> not obtain a good "capacities and limits" list. If others feel that way,
> perhaps it would benefit GFA generally to compile such a list. My first
> question is: Is there already such a list?
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List Member "FUIAX" <bernd.barwig@mbi-net.de> wrote:
Hi!

I'm still looking for a way to play animated gifs in gfawin. There should
not be an extra window - only the animgif  (perhaps as simple as put bmp
.....)

Bernd

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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
John Findlay, we all miss you!
Dale

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List Member John Findlay <Jayef@compuserve.com> wrote:

Tom,

Joe is obviously your man, I can't look at short skirts and code at the
same time.

> Load unlimited filesize into an editor of GFA-W origin. <

Here are a few pointers; (yes, pun intended) (no, I'm not back, this is a
one off)

 Use GlobalAlloc() to allocate a huge moveable mem block.

 Use GlobalLock() to get the pointer. (Unlock it when not in use)

 Load in file using a huge load routine.

 Use GFA's _Huge function to search for starts/ends of lines

 Copy strings into a buffer when needed by using
 the _Huge function so that 64k boundaries are no problem.

 Use Brents BigMove (uses _Huge) to move large blocks about.

 You can use GlobalReAlloc() to increase the mem block size if needed.

 Stir thoroughly and there you have it, done. :-)

Regards

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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Hi Steve,
Thanks for the link. Would you like a link on the GFAWHELP page?  The list
is really great as we can all share knowledge.
Dale

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> List Member Micromiser Software <miser@cde.com> wrote:
> Hi Tom,
> I would also like to thank you, Joe, Dale/GFAWHELP, Anthony Watson, and
> others here on "the cutting edge."
>
> P.S. I put links up to your and Dale's page. Don't buy an extra hard drive
> yet...I think my link page got a hit back in March sometime <g>.
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Do you have to praise Joe like that.  We won't be able to live with him!

http://gfawhelp.gfa.net
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> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> B.S.!
> I've posted a ton of requests for assistance that would benefit the
> GFA-W world at large unless I am the only one who doesn't know how
> to do what I've ask help with!
>
> Load unlimited filesize into an editor of GFA-W origin.
> Add hyperlinks to Roland's formtext.
> Load monsterous files into memory for manioulation & editing.
> Add *.cab archiving & de-archiving capability to GFA-W.
> Straighten out the bugs in the GFA-W UU routines.
> Word-check & spell-check vocabularies for a translator.
> I can go on & on.
>
> Requests may lag for lack of any response, so if anybody does
> actually learn how to do anything, they have valid claim to
> being "self-taught"!
>
> I am learning what a fool I've been for making public what
> answers I *have* been able to gain.  Very few are interested
> in sharing their knowledge & I'm not going to speculate on
> their reasoning.  There are those who refuse to respond to
> pleas for help with the very examples they make available.
>
> I am of a different breed... if I know, I like to share.  If
> I can help, it is my pleasure to do so.
>
> Joe is one of the extremely few with great knowledge that is
> willing to share & teach.  My hat is off to Joe & his few
> companion GURUs!
> TomR.
>
>
>
>
> At 04:19 PM 03/08/99 -0700, you wrote:
> >List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> >Joe Hurst says he is bored because no one has posted a programming
problem
> >today for him to solve. He says that it is waste of all his great talent.
I
> >must, (this hurts) agree with him
> >Dale
> >
> >http://gfawhelp.gfa.net
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At 05:37 PM 04/08/99 +0200, you wrote:
>List Member "FUIAX" <bernd.barwig@mbi-net.de> wrote:
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>
>I'm still looking for a way to play animated gifs in gfawin. There should
>not be an extra window - only the animgif  (perhaps as simple as put bmp
>.....)
>
>Bernd
>
>fuiax@gmx.de
>

Bernd
John has a good *.gif reader on Dale's download page that can be modified
to do the job, but you'll need to figure out how to separate the images.
Wotsit has the formats.

I have an *.ocx, but can't make it work.

Unisys is now going after ALL *.gif decoders, so watch your fanny!
<G>
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Wowser!


At 08:39 AM 04/08/99 -0400, you wrote:
>List Member Micromiser Software <miser@cde.com> wrote:
>Hi Tom,
>I've written a word-processor or two (what's new). Maybe I could help.
>Probably you're so far beyond this that I'm wasting your time. Oh well...
>
+++ Blowin my mind - yes.  Wastin my time - NOT AT ALL.  Roll up your pants
legs & climb right in.
>
>Are you asking for design help? If so, on what level? Of course John's
>overall design is correct, as you've said. I don't understand the problem of
>converting short pointers to long ones. Isn't that just a few searches and
>replaces? Shows I don't really understand your question. Of course that's
>never stopped me before...
>
+++ After months of fumbling around, help of ANY kind is welcome.  My knowing
something is correct & my being able to do it that way are often totally
unrelated.  As for the variables... I took up an example that was mostly
graphics simply because it had child windows & one portion put text into one
& kept track of sizing as well as having scrolls that worked.  I'm not smart
enough to go "from scratch" on my own - I find & adapt.  After deleting a
veitual ton of marvelous graphics, I had a rudimentary editor w/ a large
capacity... ~62K.  I figured out which variables to change to get this up to
displaying & scrolling a larger file but have run into a ton of other variables
that come into play when things get too big.
>
>The starting point for me would be to write the low-level functions. I would
>start with the toughest issue first: 1) a function to allocate memory and
>load the file so that I could 2) test a function to increase the buffer and
>insert a line. That code would be short enough for an email sample (famous
>last words).
>
+++ Knowing nothing about this area & not being able to make sense out of
what I see, I parked this on the side to await development of some kind
of MALLOC hormone.  I am open to ALL aid, assistance, teaching, etc.!
>
>Then I would create a 10mb file of random length paragraphs containing
>sequence numbers and load it with my load function. Then I would create a
>loop to insert lines one at a time. Then let it rip until the computer blows
>up. See what you've got regarding 1) speed, 2) how much memory you can
>really use, 3) How to stop it in time, and 4) how many Windows bugs will
>come into play. I bet Windows won't like moving all that memory around. Once
>all that is determined, everything else is within tested limits.
>
+++ Whew!
>
>The other issue regarding speed is the "remapping" function, always very
>debugged before proceeding since it's the heart of everything. Every thingy
>like this I ever did required a loop to remap lines forward from any edited
>line, shorter or longer. So I would call a remap function as well in my
>speed testing loop.
>
+++ I'm on my knees, & believe me, that is VERY painful for me.
>
>My main question is, can I play "Flight of the Bumble Bee" on the keyboard
>without dropping any "buzzes?" Besides moving memory, Windows messages will
>try to prevent this any way they can. And the opposite: holding down the
>delete key. Believe it or not, an 8-bit Atari at 2.5Mz doesn't do this too
>fast. But there are tricks (too bad I can't remember them!).
>
>Another issue is breaking lines with <Enter> (of course everyone misses that
>in the GFA editor). And if I delete characters at the end of a line, will
>the next line move up as I delete?
>
+++  Life's a bitch, all over.  The only way I see to break lines is to
convert everything to strings if possible & say 1$=1$+"xxx".  The 2nd
question... No, it doesn't happen naturally, but can be made to happen.
It indicates the lot as being one string, without CRLFs except as the
last part.  Doesn't happen easily in DOS or Windows.
>
>The scroll bar: That is always the very last thing I do, since it is
>basically debugged with Up, Dn, PgUp, PgDn, Home, End. Since lines are
>mapped, for PgDn for instance, I just add editor height/font height to the
>mapped line index and call my display that prints from the new top line so
>many lines. Windows does this nicely without any blinks, I must say. Can't
>lose track if the mapping function is working. Then I just convert mouse
>clicks to my key names.
>
+++ My one remaining major problem here is, as I said, if somebody grabs
the slider w/ the mouse & moves it.  I haven't worked out the keeping track
of this yet.  Another "know how" without expertise to do it right.
>
>Would you believe it people have actually accused me of being too blabby
>when discussin' these types of things. So are you far beyond this or should
>I expand on anything? Or should I just crawl back into my hole...?
>
+++ "Blabby" beats hell outa "tacitern" when discussing things like this.  I
don't like "do it my way without question or questions" 'cause I like to 
know how things work.  Addressing "where I am"... I'm thinking I'm back to
"A".  Now that I've enticed you out of your hole, please stay out!
>
>In any case, I applaud your goal. It has always been the right kind of
>editor to do. I remember the ST had a (simple) word-processor like this. I
>loved it so much I kept the ST on the desk for an extra year.
>
+++ Just a bug I got up my fanny when the famous 32K limit started being
a critical stumbling block.  I've even played w/ loading ~2k at a time into
an EDITTEXT to get around *that*.
>
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>Steve Thornton
>

Searching the vocabulary is easy using Joe's marvelous wildcard, but
very time consuming if done on the HD.  It's actually 3.03M.  After
starting the variable conversion to "LONG" in the editor, I can display
& scroll the whole thing but still have to do all searches on the HD.

I worked out a very crude way to identify the text, feed it into a hidden
edittext to alter, then by re-writing the working files, I can save the 
changes into it & eventually wind up with two files... the original & the
edited version.  "Flight of the Bumblebee" goes pretty "buzzless" with my
typing skills, but even so, I can see the slowness of working on the HD.
The "buzzless" results from my own impatience & the fact that I'm approaching
"hunt & peck" as time goes on.

IF you have time & want in, you are very welcome!  I can send you what I've
accomplished for review or the trash can.

<G>
TomR.

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
At 08:44 AM 04/08/99 -0700, you wrote:
>List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
>Do you have to praise Joe like that.  We won't be able to live with him!
>

How else can one make up for an unintended insult?  I'm MUCH better at
*those*.
<G>
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List Member "EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" <JoeHurst@snafu.de> wrote:
If old boys become bored and have nothing to do and forget about simpliest
commands in basic, they begin to invent problems for other people :-)
At the moment, I even cannot betatest GFAWIN32, because I am moving in town and
habe to redecorate the old and the new flat. Completely.

So, all, please don't bore me with your simple problems the next three weeks.
Take some time and read any SDK and try something yourself - or ask Dale to get
some surprising solutions. Not working, but many thousand lines of code ;-)

Ha, Joe

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List Member "EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" <JoeHurst@snafu.de> wrote:
> Sooooooo....  There *are* benefits after all <G>
There *must* be benefits after all!
<BG>
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List Member "EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" <JoeHurst@snafu.de> wrote:
> P.S. I put links up to your and Dale's page. 
Grrrr. How about mine? 

:-) Joe

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List Member "EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" <JoeHurst@snafu.de> wrote:
> Joe is obviously your man, I can't look at short skirts and code at the
> same time.
Yes, that's the advantage of us germans: when we do something, we do it 100%!
And we are able to do multitasking not even with computers: our bodys are able
to do (eyes on screen, hands under the ....)

At last, I do agree with John's purposes about Global(Un)Lock (I still did some
days ago).

Bye, Joe

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Aufbauen, abfragen des Dialogs und ausgeben der Ergebnisse =A5 interrogates
the dialogue and spends? the results

spends?

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List Member John Findlay <Jayef@compuserve.com> wrote:

Tom, and others

>+++ After months of fumbling around, help of ANY kind is welcome.  My
knowing
something is correct & my being able to do it that way are often totally
unrelated. <

I have a suggestion - now, I realise that programmers are independent
cusses and some will not take-kindly to this suggestion, but here goes.

How about a combined effort/learning/tutorial that will eventually build
into a working Huge Editor. One of the things I've learned is that trying=

to go too fast usually brings about crap code. Go slower, get the code
right and the thing falls into place.

I would suggest the code is started from scratch. Build the front end
first, toolbar/statusbar etc. For some that will be a learning in itself.=

Once the front end has been settled the other functions could be added,
slowly! Don't move on until things are right. Speed is not as important a=
s
right-ness.

Everyone/anyone could have an input. This would be a long term project bu=
t
I believe we could all benefit. Discussions and the submitting of code
would be through the mailing list.

Most company projects are collaborations not individual efforts.

We might not be friends at the end of it but there would be an excellent
Editor. =


:-)

Let's have somne ideas on how this could proceed. If anyone's interested
that is!


John
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List Member John Findlay <Jayef@compuserve.com> wrote:


>Yes, that's the advantage of us germans: when we do something, we do it
100%!
And we are able to do multitasking not even with computers: our bodys are=

able
to do (eyes on screen, hands under the ....)<

We'll call you Joe 'Zen' Hurst from now on then!

Of course Zen sounds very much like the start of word Xenophobic but it
doesn't have the same meaning. :-) =


Have fun decorating the flat. One eye on paint brush. . .

John
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List Member Micromiser Software <miser@cde.com> wrote:
Hi Tom,
I suspected that I "didn't understand the question," and it appears I didn't.
In my message I was not thinking about using an edit control for display.
You said you wanted the whole file in memory, so I was thinking about speed
and how to manage the pointers in the file line by line. It is then easy to
display the lines in a window, but not an edit control.

I am not too familiar with edit controls having scroll bars. But I think
moving text in and out of an edit control would not be fast enough to do it
line by line, nor am I sure you could maintain the cursor position very
easily. You would instead be moving blocks of up to 32K. And waiting for a
PgDn at the end of the block that required more of the file, etc.

I guess you have arrived at this point already, but are having trouble
maintaining the mouse position (Duh, see I am finally listening). I imagine
you are setting the scroll-bar button relative to the whole file, not the
block currently being edited. Then the problem becomes how to set the scroll
button or respond to mouse clicks needing to relate the positioning in the
edit control to the whole file. Am I getting warmer or colder?

I don't know if I can help here because I think this is a matter of
brute-force hacking-out the scroll bar positioning and, as I said, I am not
too familiar with edit controls. Also, I personally wouldn't use an edit
control in editing a file larger than the control if I was anticipating a
commercial quality product that would support ongoing development.

For instance, edit controls sometimes don't even return a key that was hit,
or sometimes return the wrong key. Under continuing development, e.g. adding
Wordstar hot keys or whatever, I bet there would be other "dead ends" you
would run into. I would want unlimited revision capability, not being
limited by Windows edit control functions.

Not only could you disagree and turn out to be right, but you are probably
interested in having some fun learning about edit controls in the process.
(???). Edit controls do offer some nice conveniences. I use them a lot for
short entries, scanned input, including "hidden" ones like you mentioned.

Regarding time, I am sorry I do not have time to hack out Windows interface
objects unless I can charge it off to development here. Design "help" is
easy, free, and worth every cent...

I meant to thank you for the private email on IMGDLL. I am composing some
questions to send to them...

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List Member Micromiser Software <miser@cde.com> wrote:
Hi Dale,
Thanks for offering your site as a place to stick the "Capacities and
Limits" doc.

Now to see if there are enough contributions to make a worthwhile resource.
I'll post the list every few weeks for a while. If not enough contributors,
I'll just drop it.

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List Member Micromiser Software <miser@cde.com> wrote:
Hi Joe,

> Grrrr. How about mine? [link to your site]

I can't find your URL. I searched Yahoo for "assistant, skirt, JPG, short,
Gallery" etc but came up with nothing. Well, actually I did come up with
something, but forgot all about your URL.

Please let me know the URL and I'll link it. And by the way, my link page is
a great page to store confidential information where nobody will see it.
Almost as good as hiding it in a computer manual.

P.S. I like your sense of humor. Unfortunately, I write my own material.

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List Member Micromiser Software <miser@cde.com> wrote:
Hi Joe,

> Grrrr. How about mine? [link to your site]

I can't find your URL. I searched Yahoo for "assistant, skirt, JPG, short,
Gallery" etc but came up with nothing. Well, actually I did come up with
something, but forgot all about your URL.

Please let me know the URL and I'll post it. And by the way, my link page is
a great page to store confidential information where nobody will see it.
Almost as good as hiding it in a computer manual.

P.S. I like your sense of humor. Unfortunately, I write my own material.

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List Member Micromiser Software <miser@cde.com> wrote:
Hi John,
I remember you as a frequent poster on Compuserve. I search that database
often and am sure you have provided some expert answers. I left in `97. Just
now searching near the end, I found a message from you (to yourself) in Feb
'97: "When will the 32-bit version be ready?" And Sjouke answering, "These
things take a little time." See, he is usually right.

Anyway -- about the "Huge Editor" project. I nominate you as team leader and
subroutine assigner.
 
I don't have time to work on interface items, but possibly could be assigned
a file management function. Like, send me a revised block of text, I plug it
in the file and send you a new block. Or something along those lines...

Hey, I thought of a great name already: "Turbo Editor"

...just kidding.

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List Member John Findlay <Jayef@compuserve.com> wrote:

Steve,

> Anyway -- about the "Huge Editor" project. I nominate you as team leade=
r
and
subroutine assigner. <

Err, I was thinking of a more mature, fit and able person than myself. I
nominate Dale Bryant.

Did I hear 'seconded', ok that's settled then, Dale it is.

You don't have time to get bored now Dale!  ;-) Don't worry Dale, I'll he=
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
OK, that's it!  NO more levity on this mailing list or it will have to be
shut down.  I have a hard enough time collecting news letter material and
keeping GFAWHELP updated.  So, let us have no more of this kind of humor!(G)
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Steve,

> Anyway -- about the "Huge Editor" project. I nominate you as team leader
and
subroutine assigner. <

Err, I was thinking of a more mature, fit and able person than myself. I
nominate Dale Bryant.

Did I hear 'seconded', ok that's settled then, Dale it is.

You don't have time to get bored now Dale!  ;-) Don't worry Dale, I'll help
out when I can.


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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
OK Steve, I will watch for it.
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> List Member Micromiser Software <miser@cde.com> wrote:
> Hi Dale,
> Thanks for offering your site as a place to stick the "Capacities and
> Limits" doc.
>
> Now to see if there are enough contributions to make a worthwhile
resource.
> I'll post the list every few weeks for a while. If not enough
contributors,
> I'll just drop it.
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List Member John Findlay <Jayef@compuserve.com> wrote:

Dale,

>So, let us have no more of this kind of humor!(G)<

I'm disapointed, thought you'd relish the challenge. Ah well, perhaps nex=
t
year then.

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
At 03:28 AM 05/08/99 -0400, you wrote:
>List Member John Findlay <Jayef@compuserve.com> wrote:
>
>Tom, and others
>
>>+++ After months of fumbling around, help of ANY kind is welcome.  My
>knowing
>something is correct & my being able to do it that way are often totally
>unrelated. <
>
>I have a suggestion - now, I realise that programmers are independent
>cusses and some will not take-kindly to this suggestion, but here goes.
>
>How about a combined effort/learning/tutorial that will eventually build
>into a working Huge Editor. One of the things I've learned is that trying
>to go too fast usually brings about crap code. Go slower, get the code
>right and the thing falls into place.
>
>I would suggest the code is started from scratch. Build the front end
>first, toolbar/statusbar etc. For some that will be a learning in itself.
>Once the front end has been settled the other functions could be added,
>slowly! Don't move on until things are right. Speed is not as important as
>right-ness.
>
+++ I have a frontend, but not fro scrtch.  It loads, dislays A& scrolls
properly as long as the slider isn;t used to scroll.  I welcome improvements.
<G>
TomR.
>
>Everyone/anyone could have an input. This would be a long term project but
>I believe we could all benefit. Discussions and the submitting of code
>would be through the mailing list.
>
>Most company projects are collaborations not individual efforts.
>
>We might not be friends at the end of it but there would be an excellent
>Editor. 
>
+++ Awwww, I think there may be some animosity, but friends ought to remain.
<G>
TomR.
>
>:-)
>
>Let's have somne ideas on how this could proceed. If anyone's interested
>that is!
>
+++ You see my two cents' worth.
<G>
TomR.

>
>John
<G>
TomR.

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
At 07:11 AM 05/08/99 -0400, you wrote:
>List Member Micromiser Software <miser@cde.com> wrote:
>Hi Tom,
>I suspected that I "didn't understand the question," and it appears I=
 didn't.
>
+++ You did, & *now* you don't <G>.  I am doing the primary work with just a
window as parent & a 2nd window as child.  The text work occurs in the=
 child.
Cursor/scroll tracking is of the whole file because *this* displays the=
 whole
file.  This scrolls the whole file.  The slider-grab is a problem to me=
 because
I have to know where it was grabbed & where it is released.  It can be up or
down (+ or -) & takes quite a bit of code to recognize & track properly.

A _2ndary_ project is figuring out how to shift text in/out of an edittext a
bit at a time because I've been unable to get help with the primaty=
 situation.

The edittext just means keeping track of what part of the file is used &
clearing the control before loading in more.  It too, is a +/- game.
>
>In my message I was not thinking about using an edit control for display.
>You said you wanted the whole file in memory, so I was thinking about speed
>and how to manage the pointers in the file line by line. It is then easy to
>display the lines in a window, but not an edit control.
>
>I am not too familiar with edit controls having scroll bars. But I think
>moving text in and out of an edit control would not be fast enough to do it
>line by line, nor am I sure you could maintain the cursor position very
>easily. You would instead be moving blocks of up to 32K. And waiting for a
>PgDn at the end of the block that required more of the file, etc.
>
+++ This is why I was researching reading LeftButtonDown on any part of the
vert scroll.  If either arrow button is punched while the text is at the
limit for that button, I can switch in new text fairly easily.  I had to=20
learn about keeping track of a pointer in the file itself to know which way
to read.
>
>I guess you have arrived at this point already, but are having trouble
>maintaining the mouse position (Duh, see I am finally listening). I imagine
>you are setting the scroll-bar button relative to the whole file, not the
>block currently being edited. Then the problem becomes how to set the=
 scroll
>button or respond to mouse clicks needing to relate the positioning in the
>edit control to the whole file. Am I getting warmer or colder?
>
+++ You are essentially right, mostly.  I'm OK in the window as long as the
slider is left alone.  I'm still working on keeping track in the text when
somebody moves the slider.  Before & after are critical & require knowing=20
where it was & where it ends up.  *This* corelation is my problem.
>
>I don't know if I can help here because I think this is a matter of
>brute-force hacking-out the scroll bar positioning and, as I said, I am not
>too familiar with edit controls. Also, I personally wouldn't use an edit
>control in editing a file larger than the control if I was anticipating a
>commercial quality product that would support ongoing development.
>
+++ I'm not exactly what would be called "professional" as a programmer.  I
have been working on GFA-W nearly 2 years, just learning.  I accomplished
my goal with LibertyBasic easily enough after a 3 yr struggle w/ it's author
but couldn't send an appl out on a 1.44M floppy with the 4 images my=
 "client"
would want because the support *.dlls required by the appl are more than a
floppy can hold & the 4 images take up over 800K by themselves.  GFA-W=
 promised
& produced a free-standing *.exe that could reside on the same floppy w/ 4=
 of
my images.

The images? U.S. Census microfilm.  It's all a mute arguement now -=
 Br=F8derbund
has picked up on it & is now producing them on CDs.  $49.95 each.  I had the
intention of selling just the ones someone needs on a floppy, NOT a whole=
 year's
census in a given area.

One thing I still have the corner on, I think... I "taught" an OCR program=
 to
read cursive (handwriting).  Xerox was keeping tabs on me on *that*.  When=
 you
sign that electronic board upon receiving something via UPS, that is the=
 closest
it got for Xerox.  It doesn't read your signature, it simply shoots an image
of it for comparison & verification later.
>
>For instance, edit controls sometimes don't even return a key that was hit,
>or sometimes return the wrong key. Under continuing development, e.g.=
 adding
>Wordstar hot keys or whatever, I bet there would be other "dead ends" you
>would run into. I would want unlimited revision capability, not being
>limited by Windows edit control functions.
>
>Not only could you disagree and turn out to be right, but you are probably
>interested in having some fun learning about edit controls in the process.
>(???). Edit controls do offer some nice conveniences. I use them a lot for
>short entries, scanned input, including "hidden" ones like you mentioned.
>
+++ "having fun" is limited to being able to get things to do what you want!
>
>Regarding time, I am sorry I do not have time to hack out Windows interface
>objects unless I can charge it off to development here. Design "help" is
>easy, free, and worth every cent...
>
+++ Sorry, didn't know you were strictly "pro".  Can't afford to seek help
from "pros" because have no money for it.  Can't ask GFA for help for the=20
same reason.  I live on total disability of $860/month & my wife's part
time job.  I really stretched the budget buying GFA-W.  Since Br=F8derbund
has begun marketing the images now, I have little excuse to keep at it.  I
get nothing from them - if they got some of my work on ZIP100s, it was what
was stolen from me by my son.  We haven't talked in 4 years, so I don't=20
know if he gave'em to them or not.  He didn't get the software I used, just
a few refined images.  Life is often a big "stick-it up your ass" situation.
>
>I meant to thank you for the private email on IMGDLL. I am composing some
>questions to send to them...
>
+++ You're more than welcome - I help when I can.
>
>-----
>Steve Thornton
>

<G>
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List Member Micromiser Software <miser@cde.com> wrote:
Hi Tom,
Thanks for your clarification.

> Sorry, I didn't know you were strictly "pro".

I would never ask for payment in this forum. I have received valuable help
from you and others, so wish to contribute in kind.

It has always taken me many hours and days to do simple things with windows
controls, especially with scroll bars, and in the end they wouldn't support
this or that requirement. So it is hard to justify spending that kind of time.

I am happy to look at code for an hour or two to see if I can spot something
or make suggestions. Again, I am not an expert GFA programmer, and not very
familiar with the controls you are using. But I would like to give it a try.

Could you zip up your source and any testing file(s) and email them to me? I
would also need an operator procedure to duplicate the problem.

I don't have a 16-bit system with 32bit add-ons (I must keep my systems as
generic as possible). So if that is required I'll have to pass. I have a
generic W95 station (Rev B).

P.S. These days I write my own scroll bars. I include the code I used to
replace a Windows vertical scroll bar in my Manual Viewer (preset colors).
It took minutes to write, and saved days of grief. Identical to a Windows
scrollbar; is faster, smoother, and more responsive to the mouse (at least
in this application). It's pretty useless without sufficient comments, but I
doubt anyone else would do this. I include it only to emphasize my point and
that you're not the only one who has been bitten by scrolling problems. Also
the benefits of GFA speed/development speed.

-----
Steve Thornton

PROCEDURE DRAWSCROLL(SCT&,SCB&) (top/bottom)
  GOSUB SCROLLBLANK(SCT&,SCB&)
  GOSUB SCROLLBUTTON(SCT&)
  FOR A|=0 TO 4 'the top arrow
    LINE _X-8-A|,SCT&+5+A|,_X-8+A|,SCT&+5+A|
  NEXT A|
  GOSUB SCROLLBUTTON(SCB&-18)
  FOR A|=0 TO 4
    LINE _X-8-A|,SCB&-7-A|,_X-8+A|,SCB&-7-A|
  NEXT A|
  SFIRST|=0 'init flag, makes more portable
RETURN

PROCEDURE SETSCROLL(DUM&) '0-1000 redraw the button
  LOCAL A&,B&,R& 'Global SFIRST|, SPOSP&
  R&=SCB&-SCT&-54 'top, bottom, button itself
  A&=19+DUM&*R&/1000
  IF A&<SCT&+17 THEN A&=SCT&+17
  IF A&>SCB&-33 THEN A&=SCB&-33
  IF A&<>SPOSP& OR SFIRST|=0 THEN
    GOSUB SCROLLBLANK(SCT&,SCB&)
    GOSUB SCROLLBUTTON(A&)
    SPOSP&=A& 'self correcting
  ENDIF
  SFIRST|=1
RETURN

PROCEDURE SCROLLBLANK(DUM&,DUM2&) 'draw the outline
  RGBCOLOR C%(8) 'gray
  PBOX _X-16,DUM&+17,_X,DUM2&-17
  RGBCOLOR C%(7) 'off white
  LINE _X-16,DUM&+17,_X-16,DUM2&-17
  LINE _X-1,DUM&+17,_X-1,DUM2&-17
RETURN

PROCEDURE SCROLLBUTTON(DUM&) 'draw the button
  RGBCOLOR C%(7) 
  PBOX _X-16,DUM&+2,_X-2,DUM&+16
  RGBCOLOR C%(15) 'white
  BOX _X-16,DUM&,_X-1,DUM&+16
  BOX _X-15,DUM&+1,_X-2,DUM&+15
  RGBCOLOR C%(0) 'black
  LINE _X-2,DUM&+1,_X-2,DUM&+17
  LINE _X-1,DUM&,_X-1,DUM&+18
  LINE _X-15,DUM&+15,_X-2,DUM&+15
  LINE _X-16,DUM&+16,_X-1,DUM&+16
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List Member John Findlay <Jayef@compuserve.com> wrote:

Tom,

>The slider-grab is a problem to me because I have to know where it was
grabbed & where it is released.  It can be up or down (+ or -) & takes
quite a bit of code to recognize & track properly.<

Don't know if this will help but here are some lines of code that I've
used;

In the main message area trap the scroll messages and jump to PROCEDURE
ScrollBars(). The vars nHpos and nVpos are used to keep track of position=
.
The vars nHextent and nVextent are the desired scroll range set in
PROCEDURE SetScrollRange(). The offsets used will not be applicable to yo=
ur
situation.


  CASE WM_HSCROLL
    CONT
  CASE WM_VSCROLL
    @ScrollBars(hWnd, wMessage, wParam, lParam)
    RETVAL TRUE


PROCEDURE ScrollBars(hWnd, wMessage, wParam, lParam)
  LOCAL nPrevScrollH =3D nHpos, nPrevScrollV =3D nVpos
  //=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
  // Sets nHpos and nVpos with the movement of the scroll bars.
  // Sets ~SetScrollPos()
  // nHextent, nVextent, nHpos and nVpos are global vars.
  //=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

  IF wMessage =3D WM_HSCROLL
    SWITCH wParam

    CASE SB_PAGEDOWN
      nHpos =3D MIN(nHextent, nHpos + 100)

    CASE SB_PAGEUP
      nHpos =3D MAX(0, nHpos - 100)

    CASE SB_LINEDOWN
      nHpos =3D MIN(nHextent, nHpos + 10)

    CASE SB_LINEUP
      nHpos =3D MAX(0, nHpos - 10)

    CASE SB_TOP
      nHpos =3D 0

    CASE SB_BOTTOM
      nHpos =3D nHextent

    CASE SB_THUMBTRACK
      nHpos =3D LOWORD(lParam)

    ENDSELECT

    IF nHpos <> nPrevScrollH
      ~SetScrollPos(hWnd, SB_HORZ, nHpos, TRUE)
    ENDIF

  ELSE IF wMessage =3D WM_VSCROLL
    SWITCH wParam

    CASE SB_PAGEDOWN
      nVpos =3D MIN(nVextent, nVpos + 200)

    CASE SB_PAGEUP
      nVpos =3D MAX(0, nVpos - 200)

    CASE SB_LINEDOWN
      nVpos =3D MIN(nVextent, nVpos + 20)

    CASE SB_LINEUP
      nVpos =3D MAX(0, nVpos - 20)

    CASE SB_TOP
      nVpos =3D 0

    CASE SB_BOTTOM
      nVpos =3D nVextent

    CASE SB_THUMBTRACK
      nVpos =3D  LOWORD(lParam)

    ENDSELECT

    IF nVpos <> nPrevScrollV
      ~SetScrollPos(hWnd, SB_VERT, nVpos, TRUE)
    ENDIF

  ENDIF

RETURN

PROCEDURE SetScrollRange(hWnd)
  //=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
  // Reset scrollbars.
  //=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
  ~GetClientRect(hWnd, *rect.)
  nVextent =3D (nPageSizeY * (nPercent / 100)) - rect.top - rect.bottom +=
 40
  nHextent =3D (nPageSizeX * (nPercent / 100)) - rect.left - rect.right +=
 40

  IF nVextent < 0 THEN nVextent =3D 0
  IF nHextent < 0 THEN nHextent =3D 0

  //=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
  //=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

  ~SetScrollRange(hWnd, SB_VERT, 0, nVextent, TRUE)
  ~SetScrollRange(hWnd, SB_HORZ, 0, nHextent, TRUE)

RETURN


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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
At 01:51 AM 06/08/99 -0400, you wrote:
>List Member Micromiser Software <miser@cde.com> wrote:
>Hi Tom,
>Thanks for your clarification.
>
>> Sorry, I didn't know you were strictly "pro".
>
>I would never ask for payment in this forum. I have received valuable help
>from you and others, so wish to contribute in kind.
>
+++ There still exists a wide difference that must be considered.  You do
this for a living - most of us are just playing altho some do sell as
shareware some of what they write.  All of us would probably like to be
capable of writing things that the market is longing for.  For *my* part, I
am trying to contribute something noteable to the GFA-W world, thereby
justifying at least somewhat the cost of the purchase.  Another of the real
reasons I bought in was to see if I couldn't advance the LibertyBasic world.

LB is 16-bit & can deal with *.dlls.  Thru several *.exes & a couple of *.dlls,
I contributed to the capabilities of LB.  Because of indifference & lack of
help from it's author, I finally dropped it & concentrated on GFA-W.

I enjoy helping others when I can, but I *do* expect to be helped, also.  One
major problem with this is that I am far beyond "hello world" & get into the
corners that, from all outward appearances, nobody has been into or wants to
get into.  I don't have the extensive experience required for a lot of this.
>
>I am happy to look at code for an hour or two to see if I can spot something
>or make suggestions. Again, I am not an expert GFA programmer, and not very
>familiar with the controls you are using. But I would like to give it a try.
>
>Could you zip up your source and any testing file(s) and email them to me? I
>would also need an operator procedure to duplicate the problem.
>
+++ I'll zip & send the big editor - you may enjoy taking it apart.
>
>I don't have a 16-bit system with 32bit add-ons (I must keep my systems as
>generic as possible). So if that is required I'll have to pass. I have a
>generic W95 station (Rev B).
>
+++ You may find you have trouble w/ anything with pushbuttons in it.  Some
months back, I discovered that W95b & W98 upgrades over W95 had problems.  I
was never able to isolate the *.dlls that were switched out, so I couldn't
give precise instructions on getting things back to normal.  GFA-W & LB
both have this problem.
>
>P.S. These days I write my own scroll bars. I include the code I used to
>replace a Windows vertical scroll bar in my Manual Viewer (preset colors).

>-----
>Steve Thornton
>

I'll play with it, if you don't mind.  Even at 2 yrs' playing, I
am still mostly a beginner w/ GFA-W.  LINEUP/LINEDOWN I can track
very easily.  PAGEUP/PAGEDOWN I can track easily.  Moving the 
slider is a problem for me tho - I have to know where it was before
& know where it ended up.  It should be simple, but is eating my
lunch left & right.  It's a case of knowing what needs to be done
but finding the right way to do it isn't simple to me.

I'll figure it out one of these days, but the world won't stop
turning if I don't.
<G>
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List Member mechanic <mechanic@sonet.net> wrote:
Tom Record wrote:

Hi All,

> Moving the
> slider is a problem for me tho - I have to know where it was before

Get the slider x,y on WM_LBUTTONDOWN in the scrollbar window.

> & know where it ended up. 

Get the slider x,y on WM_LBUTTONUP in the scrollbar window.

Could this not then be determined relative to the font height and number
of lines in the edit control?
I know this would be a can of worms to work out but it seems to be a
possible approach.

> It should be simple, but is eating my
> lunch left & right. 

It certainly wouldn't be simple for me and I may not be seeing the big
picture.

Just food for thought. :)

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Doyle
I *think* you are on the right track.  Just putting them in the right place
is the determining factor - I think.  Thanks.  I'm pilled up & off to bed.

Very long day & night & I had a call from a highschool sweetheart - wants to
get us back together.  I'm interested!
<G>
TomR.



At 05:24 AM 06/08/99 -0500, you wrote:
>List Member mechanic <mechanic@sonet.net> wrote:
>Tom Record wrote:
>
>Hi All,
>
>> Moving the
>> slider is a problem for me tho - I have to know where it was before
>
>Get the slider x,y on WM_LBUTTONDOWN in the scrollbar window.
>
>> & know where it ended up. 
>
>Get the slider x,y on WM_LBUTTONUP in the scrollbar window.
>
>Could this not then be determined relative to the font height and number
>of lines in the edit control?
>I know this would be a can of worms to work out but it seems to be a
>possible approach.
>
>> It should be simple, but is eating my
>> lunch left & right. 
>
>It certainly wouldn't be simple for me and I may not be seeing the big
>picture.
>
>Just food for thought. :)
>
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List Member Micromiser Software <miser@cde.com> wrote:
Hi Tom,
This is getting to be fun.

Here is some bare-bones main code that calls the scrollbar functions I sent.
Keeping track of "where the slider was" and "where to move it" is made
obvious in this sample.

I caution that you've received two other messages helping you to do this the
right way, and this is definitely the wrong way (though it works). I urge
you to follow up on those messages first (I would like to watch and learn!)
Going in different directions will just make things worse. But I thought
that perhaps seeing how I did this will give you some ideas to apply generally.

Without you, I (and many others I'm sure) wouldn't have gotten to see the
two messages to you showing excellent examples. So asking for help is just
as much of a contribution as giving it (IMHO).

I only include the code that handles scrollbar positioning. Not included is
code to keep it going when the mouse is held down, a test of WM_LBUTTONUP to
stop it, and code to slow it down. Other mouse and key operations are
missing too. There is no adjustment for the length of the screen display, so
the mouse will always end up a little short of the bottom. This is easy to
fix in the "SPOS&=" line. I leave it out to make a clearer example.

Some background:
The text file is opened to file channel #12.
RS% is the position in the file (LOC(#12)) of the top line being displayed
at any give time. It is reset via a line mapping function with any screen
redraw in response to Dn, Up, PgUp, Pgdn, etc. 

'The window is open (no scrollbar) and we're initing things
SCT&=0,SCB&=_Y-15 'top/bottom of scrollbar
GOSUB DRAWSCROLL(SCT&,SCB&) 'init scrollbar
'done initing, ready for message loop
OUTERLOOP: come back here on any key/mouse event
  SPOS&=RS%/LOF(#12)*1000 'This is where the top line being
  GOSUB SETSCROLL(SPOS&)  'displayed is in relation to the file
  KE$=""  'note that SPOS& is now "where the slider was"
  DO
    PEEKEVENT
    IF MENU(11)=WM_LBUTTONDOWN THEN
      A&=(MOUSEY-18)/(SCB&-SCT&-56)*1000-18 'Where the mouse is
      IF A&>SPOS&+1 THEN KE$="PGUP" '     clicked=A& in relation
      IF A&<SPOS&-1 THEN KE$="PGDN" '     to SPOS&
      'test for other mouse things, set KE$ accordingly
    ENDIF
    'test for keys/quit/activewindow,etc., set KE$ accordingly
  LOOP WHILE KE$=""
  IF KE$="PGUP" THEN GOSUB PGUP 'move text a page, reset RS%
  IF KE$="PGDN" THEN GOSUB PGDN 'new RS% will move scrollbutton
  'handle other KE$ values including Up, Left, Home, quit, etc.
GOTO OUTERLOOP 'slider will move when get to SETSCROLL(SPOS&)

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List Member Bueckmann.W@t-online.de (Bueckmann.W) wrote:
I need no dope, I need no hope, I'm to stupid !!

What I need is more intelligence !!!

;-)

This Program runs in the interpreter but not in the EXE: ( both )

ver$ =3D "GFA BASIC VERSION 4.3.8"
po$ =3D ver$ + " |"
po$ =3D po$ + "  Markiere Alle Dateien |"
po$ =3D po$ + "  Demarkiere alle Dateien |"
po$ =3D po$ + "  Ordnerinfo "
On Menu
wah% =3D Popup(po$,Menu(2),Menu(3),0)

This Program runs in the EXE but not on the right position=20

Openw #1,0,0,0,0,0
ver$ =3D "GFA BASIC VERSION 4.3.8"
po$ =3D ver$ + " |"
po$ =3D po$ + "  Markiere Alle Dateien |"
po$ =3D po$ + "  Demarkiere alle Dateien |"
po$ =3D po$ + "  Ordnerinfo "
On Menu
wah% =3D Popup(po$,Menu(2),Menu(3),0)

And this runs on Both:

Openw #1,0,0,0,0,0
ver$ =3D "GFA BASIC VERSION 4.3.8"
po$ =3D ver$ + " |"
po$ =3D po$ + "  Markiere Alle Dateien |"
po$ =3D po$ + "  Demarkiere alle Dateien |"
po$ =3D po$ + "  Ordnerinfo "
Mouse x%,y%,k /* I read not Use this in Windows !!! */
wah% =3D Popup(po$,x%,y%,0)

...

Must I open a Window to work with Popups ??

One day I say a routine who was able to ask window for the mouseposition =
but I=20
have lost it !!

Anybody here, who's able to save my mind ??

Regards / M.f.G.     Wilhelm B=FCckmann
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List Member Michael Weigand <michael-weigand@foni.net> wrote:
List Member Bueckmann.W@t-online.de (Bueckmann.W) wrote:

>And this runs on Both:
>
>Openw #1,0,0,0,0,0
>ver$ = "GFA BASIC VERSION 4.3.8"
>po$ = ver$ + " |"
>po$ = po$ + "  Markiere Alle Dateien |"
>po$ = po$ + "  Demarkiere alle Dateien |"
>po$ = po$ + "  Ordnerinfo "
>Mouse x%,y%,k /* I read not Use this in Windows !!! */
>wah% = Popup(po$,x%,y%,0)

Try Mousex, Mousesx, Mousey and Mousesy.


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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
At 09:14 PM 06/08/99 +0200, you wrote:
>List Member Bueckmann.W@t-online.de (Bueckmann.W) wrote:
>I need no dope, I need no hope, I'm to stupid !!
>
>What I need is more intelligence !!!
>
>;-)
>
>This Program runs in the interpreter but not in the EXE: ( both )
>
>ver$ =3D "GFA BASIC VERSION 4.3.8"
>po$ =3D ver$ + " |"
>po$ =3D po$ + "  Markiere Alle Dateien |"
>po$ =3D po$ + "  Demarkiere alle Dateien |"
>po$ =3D po$ + "  Ordnerinfo "
>On Menu
>wah% =3D Popup(po$,Menu(2),Menu(3),0)
>
>This Program runs in the EXE but not on the right position=20
>
>Openw #1,0,0,0,0,0
>ver$ =3D "GFA BASIC VERSION 4.3.8"
>po$ =3D ver$ + " |"
>po$ =3D po$ + "  Markiere Alle Dateien |"
>po$ =3D po$ + "  Demarkiere alle Dateien |"
>po$ =3D po$ + "  Ordnerinfo "
>On Menu
>wah% =3D Popup(po$,Menu(2),Menu(3),0)
>
>And this runs on Both:
>
>Openw #1,0,0,0,0,0
>ver$ =3D "GFA BASIC VERSION 4.3.8"
>po$ =3D ver$ + " |"
>po$ =3D po$ + "  Markiere Alle Dateien |"
>po$ =3D po$ + "  Demarkiere alle Dateien |"
>po$ =3D po$ + "  Ordnerinfo "
>Mouse x%,y%,k /* I read not Use this in Windows !!! */
>wah% =3D Popup(po$,x%,y%,0)
>
>...
>
>Must I open a Window to work with Popups ??
>
>One day I say a routine who was able to ask window for the mouseposition=
 but I=20
>have lost it !!
>
>Anybody here, who's able to save my mind ??
>
>Regards / M.f.G.     Wilhelm B=FCckmann
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' locate1.lst - mouse tattletale
' not totally accounted for yet!
cx& =3D GETDEVCAPS(HORZRES)
cy& =3D GETDEVCAPS(VERTRES)

CURDRV =3D _DRIVE
CURPATH$ =3D DIR$(0)
PATH$ =3D CHR$(CURDRV) + ":" + CURPATH$
IF RIGHT$(PATH$,1) <> "\" THEN
  PATH$ =3D PATH$ + "\"
ENDIF
' CHDIR PATH$

TITLEW #1, "<Esc> or <Enter> to close..."
OPENW #1,20,20,450,250,16 | 32
GETWINRECT 1,x&,y&,w&,h&
SETMOUSE w& / 2,h& / 2
WINDGET 6,w2&
WINDGET 7,h2&
PRINT PATH$
PRINT "Window... ";x&;", ";y&;", ";w&;", ";h&
PRINT "window client width =3D ";w2&
PRINT "window client height =3D ";h2&

DO
  t$ =3D INKEY$
  EXIT IF ASC(t$) =3D 27    /* terminates when  ESC is pressed
  EXIT IF ASC(t$) =3D 13    /* terminates when  ENTER is pressed
  ax% =3D mx%,ay% =3D my%,ak% =3D mk%
  MOUSE mx%,my%,mk%
  IF (ax% <> mx%) || (ay% <> my%) || (ak% <> mk%)
    TEXT 8,190,SPACE$(999)
    IF mx% =3D> 0 && mx% <=3D w2& && my% =3D> 0 && my% <=3D h2& THEN m1x% =
=3D mx%
    IF mx% < 0 THEN m1x% =3D 0
    IF mx% > w2& THEN m1x% =3D w2&
    IF my% =3D> 0 && my% <=3D h2& && mx% =3D> 0 && mx% <=3D w2& THEN m1y% =
=3D my%
    IF my% < 0 THEN m1y% =3D 0
    IF my% > h2& THEN m1y% =3D h2&
    a$ =3D "X =3D " + STR$(m1x%,4,0) + ",  Y =3D " + STR$(m1y%,4,0)
    a$ =3D a$ + ", button... " + STR$(mk%,1,0)
    TEXT 8,190,a$
  ENDIF
LOOP /* UNTIL MENU(1) =3D 4

CLOSEW #1
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2.MU;4X#I^9.4DFR<`,,,"`$:*.&DC4Z,2:.$'S11(@A)F$3+`BV-;.35.NI6$&
1.MXLF$G-D<I)7ZT5(KM;T_6[W65GL%0<@0R0!^\5$M2EM1:WOB@.(7A*_,
2.M;!M"XLF$G-D<I)7ZT5(KM;T_6[W65GL%0<@0R0!^\5$M2EM1:WOB@.(7A*_,
1.MSYG,!&R]]_>_S_N^S_/FR<R<L_?::Z^]]MIKK[4_YW]U@V`2!$&$3SPN
2.M?ZVUSYG,!&R]]_>_S_N^S_/FR<R<L_?::Z^]]MIKK[4_YW]U@V`2!$&$3SPN
  123456789|123456789|123456789|123456789|123456789|123456789|1

The GFA-W routine encodes exactly as does XferPro, except that it
skips the first 4 charactors!  A valid UU file has 61 chars in each
line until the end.  The GFA-W routine's UU file has 57 chars.

I have wasted hours playing with this.  I can alter a lot of things,
but so far, NOTHING I can think of makes it pick up the first four
charactors!

Please - what is missing or done wrong in the routines?  The decode
routine does the same thing... it skips the first charactors & the
file it generates will NOT unzip.  Neither XferPro or WinZip6 will
decode the product of the GFA-W encode routine.

Please - it would benefit the whole GFA-W community to resolve this.

TomR.

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List Member Anthony Watson <awatson@pacifier.com> wrote:
Tom,

> The GFA-W routine encodes exactly as does XferPro, except that it
> skips the first 4 charactors!

If you're interested, I've got a UUENCODER and UUDECODER I whipped up a
year or two ago. Nothing fancy, but I don't recall having any problems
with it. If you want I'll try to track it down and post it for you...

Take care,

Anthony Watson
Mountain Software
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
At 09:18 PM 06/08/99 -0700, you wrote:
>List Member Anthony Watson <awatson@pacifier.com> wrote:
>Tom,
>
>> The GFA-W routine encodes exactly as does XferPro, except that it
>> skips the first 4 charactors!
>
>If you're interested, I've got a UUENCODER and UUDECODER I whipped up a
>year or two ago. Nothing fancy, but I don't recall having any problems
>with it. If you want I'll try to track it down and post it for you...
>
>Take care,
>
>Anthony Watson

Anthony
Beautiful, fancy, etc., aren't required <G>.  All I need is something 
that works.  As far as I'm conserned, if XferPro & WinZip can't handle 
it, it's pretty useless.

I could probably come up w/ something on my own, but it would be rather
propriatory in effect because nothing else would know how to work with
it.  I'm trying to do things compatable with standard appls.

Your generosity is very much appreciated.  Thank you.
<G>
TomR.

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List Member "EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" <JoeHurst@snafu.de> wrote:
> Aufbauen, abfragen des Dialogs und ausgeben der Ergebnisse 
  Create dialog
            ask results of dialog (maybe button-values)
                                 and give out teh results

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List Member "EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" <JoeHurst@snafu.de> wrote:
> '97: "When will the 32-bit version be ready?" And Sjouke answering, "These
> things take a little time." See, he is usually right.
How about: _very_ soon?

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List Member "EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" <JoeHurst@snafu.de> wrote:
> I can't find your URL. I searched Yahoo for "assistant, skirt, JPG, short,
> Gallery" etc but came up with nothing. Well, actually I did come up with
> something, but forgot all about your URL.
Try gfa-basic, software, sources. I don't subscribe my pages with thousands
words for any possible program I wrote. Or go directly to http://www.jhurst.de
which is a shadow-domain for http://www.snafu.de/~joehurst (hm, is that really
my domain? don't no, my FTP-proggi hides all that technical stuff...)

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List Member "EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" <JoeHurst@snafu.de> wrote:
If you need a source very quick: I have a one done in visual basic, see my
homepage and look for "black box for visual basic". Therein are many vb-sources
(clean ascii *.bas-files) with usefull things.

BTW: GFA32 has good, quick and working commands for UU and MiMe de/encoding...

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List Member "EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" <JoeHurst@snafu.de> wrote:
> Must I open a Window to work with Popups ??
Sure. Only a window is capable to display menus, and a popup is a menu. Or you
try a little bit of hardcore-coding  and make the "desktop" as _your_ window.
Heavy, but possible. So why not use an invisible / very small /
outofthescreenplaced window.

BTW: ON MENU is mega-out...

Use MouseX/Y for mouse-position in a window, and MouseSX/Y for mouse-position on
screen. MENU(xxx) for mouse-positions does only work right in event-loops when
you _recieve_ an event.

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
At 06:52 PM 07/08/99 +0200, you wrote:
>List Member "EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" <JoeHurst@snafu.de> wrote:
>If you need a source very quick: I have a one done in visual basic, see my
>homepage and look for "black box for visual basic". Therein are many vb-sources
>(clean ascii *.bas-files) with usefull things.
>
>BTW: GFA32 has good, quick and working commands for UU and MiMe de/encoding...
>
+++ I don't have, & probably never will have, GFA32 unless it comes free.
Ciao, TomR.
>
>Bye, Joe
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Thank you very much!
<G>
TomR.

At 06:52 PM 07/08/99 +0200, you wrote:
>List Member "EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" <JoeHurst@snafu.de> wrote:
>> Aufbauen, abfragen des Dialogs und ausgeben der Ergebnisse 
>  Create dialog
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>                                 and give out teh results
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>Bye, Joe
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From: BDD <BrentDeck@compuserve.com>
Subject: [gfabasic] Huge Editor???
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List Member BDD <BrentDeck@compuserve.com> wrote:
Tom,

I might suggest my Wraptext.gfw  (on Dales Files page)  function, which
does the following:

1) Uses text in memory blocks of unlimited size.
2) Wraps text at very high speed.
3) Will wrap text into any size rectangle on any type of device, includin=
g
a metafile pseudodevice.
(MS drawtext limited to 64k, will not do metafiles, and is slow as a pig)=

4) Returns useful information at end of page or end of text.
5) Uses any font, but is not set up for multiple fonts within the body.
6) It handles multiple CRLF or multiple spaces differently in different
contexts.
   (This may or may not suit the developers taste)

In all the times Ive tested it, I believe I saw it miss a double CRLF onc=
e.
It merely continued to wrap normally where it should have formed a new
paragraph. =

So it may have a slight bug in that part of the algorithm.
 =

I would have used Richtext or  Roland's FORMTEXT as a starting point,
but I was too old or dumb to figure them out.

Best Regards,

Brent
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From: Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: [gfabasic] Huge Editor??? (BD)
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
At 06:00 PM 07/08/99 -0400, you wrote:
>List Member BDD <BrentDeck@compuserve.com> wrote:
>Tom,
>
>I might suggest my Wraptext.gfw  (on Dales Files page)  function, which
>does the following:
>
>1) Uses text in memory blocks of unlimited size.
>>>
>I would have used Richtext or  Roland's FORMTEXT as a starting point,
>but I was too old or dumb to figure them out.
>
>Best Regards,
>
>Brent
>-----------------

Thanks, Brent - I'll look at how you handle the memory bulk.  Perhaps
there more than one answer there.

My major problem otherwise is accounting for slider movement.  I can 
handle the buttons (LINEUP/LINEDOWN) & the ribbon (PAGEUP/PAGEDOWN) Ok, 
but am having trouble with:
WIND_GET(8) & WIND_GET(10).
I can't seem to get'em in the right position to account for someone
grabbing the slider w/ the mouse & moving it.  It appears to be a heck of
a whole lot more involved than I imagined.

The memory thing comes up because I want more speed & to stay off the HD
with all of the operations.  I can make changes easily by copying the 
original file to another line by line until I hit the line I changed, sub 
that one into the new file, then go on w/ the rest of the original.  It's
NOT neat, but it works.  It took a while to figure out how to keep track 
of the text in each line, but by playing with the mouse functions, I did
finally manage that.  I've been using John's hugeops to move everything
back as the original working file so I don't have to keep changing things
in the procedure.  THANK YOU, John, THANK YOU.

I will confess that I'm running out of enthusiasm with the whole thing,
GFA-W included.

General Electric *used* to say "Progress is our most important product".
Well, it is now my most LEAST reported product.

The richtext bit - requires 32-bit.  Roland's *.rtm... Ha!  I can add
other tags easily enough, but can't get any sort of hyperlink working.
Nor can I increase it's capacity - something less than 64K.  Pity!  It's
a really good plaything that runs OK on Win31 & is really quite usefull.

I should just give up & go back to a DOS program I have that will turn a
text file into something like a book.  *That* has hyperlinks & even does 
images as long as they're *.bmp or *.pcx.  The only problem with doing
that is that I want to do it in GFA-W & maybe use *.png (much smaller
than *.gif, legally free to use, a little larger than *.jpg, but is NOT
lossy & maintains dpi & colordepth of the original).

By The Way... word has it that Unisys is now going after any & all use of
the LZ decompression in *.gif.  This includes all freebies, readers, etc.

Thanks for your comeback - will investigate it.
<G>
TomR.

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Subject: Re: [gfabasic] Huge Editor??? (BD)
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List Member "Eberhard Funck" <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de> wrote:
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Hi Tom and all other,

Here a sample, how you can load text-files
until 16 Mbytes in a memory block.
Line searching through serching for carrige return
and store the pointer to each line in a separate LONG memory word.

Than you can display each line in a FOR/NEXT loop,
and you can scroll vertical and horizontal.

I have try it, to make this sample with a GFA Basic Window
and GFA Basic messages and function.
It doesn't work, or I can no more programming with this functions.

I must work with API functions.

This sample shall show you, how you can scroll a great
number of lines.

The ScrollRange is limited at 32767 pixels.

I hope, that you can learn somethink from this source code.
The source code runs in the interpreter.

Greetings

Eberhard



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List Member "Eberhard Funck" <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de> wrote:
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Hi all

I am too old!
Here the right version of my scroll sample.
I have forgotten to free memory and reset
the window, if you have load a file and
than load another file.

Excuse me all

Greetings

Eberhard


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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Does such an animal as REDIM exist?  I would like the ability to
redimension an array to something larger if necessary.  I find nothing
to guide me on this & I keep hitting a REDIM error.
<G>
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Eberhard
Thank you <G>.  Old man <G>.
We're gonna get this sucker licked one way or another.
<G>
TomR.


At 09:14 PM 08/08/99 +0200, you wrote:
>Hi all
>
>I am too old!
>Here the right version of my scroll sample.
>I have forgotten to free memory and reset
>the window, if you have load a file and
>than load another file.
>
>Excuse me all
>
>Greetings
>
>Eberhard
>
>
>Attachment Converted: C:\WORLDNET\DOWNLOAD\MegaScr1.zip
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> From: "Eberhard Funck" <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de>
> To: <gfabasic@gfa.net>
> Subject: Re: [gfabasic] Huge Editor??? (BD)
> Date: Sun, 8 Aug 1999 20:39:15 +0200
> 
> Hi Tom and all other,
> 
> Here a sample, how you can load text-files
> until 16 Mbytes in a memory block.
> Line searching through serching for carrige return
> and store the pointer to each line in a separate LONG memory word.
> Than you can display each line in a FOR/NEXT loop,
> and you can scroll vertical and horizontal.
> I have try it, to make this sample with a GFA Basic Window
> and GFA Basic messages and function.
> This sample shall show you, how you can scroll a great
> number of lines.
> The ScrollRange is limited at 32767 pixels.
> I hope, that you can learn somethink from this source code.
> The source code runs in the interpreter.
> Greetings
> Eberhard
> 
> Attachment Converted: C:\WORLDNET\DOWNLOAD\MegaScro.zip
> Attachment Converted: C:\WORLDNET\DOWNLOAD\MegaScr1.zip

Eberhard, you did a beautiful job - as usual.  However...

***The ScrollRange is limited at 32767 pixels.***
A very small, insignificant error in that statement.
The ScrollRange is limited to 32768 lines.  The 32767 above,
plus an empty line it adds to the beginning of the display.

Attempting to load a file containing 32768 lines generates
a Peek/Poke/Address error, GFA #77.

This appears to be an insurmountable ceiling built into Windows.
I have appls that *CAN* load & scroll 120,000 lines.  Disregard 
the filesize - it appears to have little if any bearing on this
problem.  When the VScroll approaches the bottom in those appls,
they pause momentarily, then continue scrolling.  I believe they
are unloading memory & loading in the next big chunk of text.

I *HAD* bigdemo loading & scrolling _AT_LEAST_ 32700 lines & I
sure *thot* I was getting more.  Now, all of my efforts are gone
to hell because I've made so many changes I've lost track of any
un-adulterated copy of it that was handling monster files.

My one REAL problem was keeping track of line counts if a user
moved the slider with the mouse.  My *SECONDARY* problem was that
I wanted to do it all in memory instead of on the HD.

I conceed!  Calfrope!  Uncle!  I give!  I withdraw from the fray!
I'll crawl back into my hole & stay there where I belong.
TomR,

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List Member Micromiser Software <miser@cde.com> wrote:
Hi Eberhard,
Thanks for a nice example

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List Member "Bev & Lou Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
Morning All:

Hey Tom; I believe all you have to do is:

ERASE X$()
DIM X$(??)

                                                   ->Bev<--

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> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Does such an animal as REDIM exist?  I would like the ability to
> redimension an array to something larger if necessary.  I find nothing
> to guide me on this & I keep hitting a REDIM error.
> <G>
> TomR.
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Thanks, Bev
Will try it later in the day - am getting low on go.
Been trying to get Joe's mime code to work.  Reckon 
I'm doing something wrong - *it's* low on go, too.
<G>
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At 03:27 AM 09/08/99 -0400, you wrote:
>List Member "Bev & Lou Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
>Morning All:
>
>Hey Tom; I believe all you have to do is:
>
>ERASE X$()
>DIM X$(??)
>
>                                                   ->Bev<--
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>----- Original Message -----
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>> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> Does such an animal as REDIM exist?  I would like the ability to
>> redimension an array to something larger if necessary.  I find nothing
>> to guide me on this & I keep hitting a REDIM error.
>> <G>
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>***The ScrollRange is limited at 32767 pixels.***
>A very small, insignificant error in that statement.

Hi Tom,

An easy problem to fix. Scrollrange should be set to 1000. Scrollpos at any
time expressed as linepointer%/filelen%*1000. (No sense trying to set
vertical resolution to more than 1000 pixels since the screen doesn't have
them anyway).

That is easy to fix in megscrol.gfw, but doesn't solve the slider problem
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Bev & Lou Brown wrote:
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Morning All:

Hey Tom; I believe all you have to do is:

ERASE X$()
DIM X$(??)
------------------
I guess,
This way you loose all the Array-Strings you had before.
If you want a Re-Dimension of an existing array without loosing the strin=
gs I=20
guess you should save them before "ERASE".
Maybe you can do it like in the LST-File in the attachment....
I save the strings of the array in a temporary array that I delete after =
all.

Ulli Stemmeler
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At 08:22 AM 09/08/99 -0400, you wrote:
>List Member Micromiser Software <miser@cde.com> wrote:
>>***The ScrollRange is limited at 32767 pixels.***
>>A very small, insignificant error in that statement.
>
>Hi Tom,
>
>An easy problem to fix. Scrollrange should be set to 1000. Scrollpos at any
>time expressed as linepointer%/filelen%*1000. (No sense trying to set
>vertical resolution to more than 1000 pixels since the screen doesn't have
>them anyway).
>
>That is easy to fix in megscrol.gfw, but doesn't solve the slider problem
>which is the tough one, correct?
>
>-----
>Steve Thornton
>
Steve
Thanks.  Yes, the tracking is what was eating my lunch.  Pat Bullman's
gridline just might adapt to correct *that*.  I'm down & out for a bit 
because my gut is turning wrong side out.  Something I ate, no doubt,
but there's been nothing out of the ordinary.

Perhaps I can play w/ your idea a bit later - will get back to you.
<G>
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>Hey Tom; I believe all you have to do is:
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>------------------
>I guess,
>This way you loose all the Array-Strings you had before.
>If you want a Re-Dimension of an existing array without loosing the strings=
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>guess you should save them before "ERASE".
>Maybe you can do it like in the LST-File in the attachment....
>I save the strings of the array in a temporary array that I delete after=
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>
>Ulli Stemmeler
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Ulli
Thank you.  Am sick right now, so all must wait.  Will keep you
advised when I can sit here & play with it.  Thanks, again.
<G>
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List Member "Eberhard Funck" <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de> wrote:
>Thanks.  Yes, the tracking is what was eating my lunch.  Pat Bullman's
>gridline just might adapt to correct *that*.  I'm down & out for a bit 
>because my gut is turning wrong side out.  Something I ate, no doubt,
>but there's been nothing out of the ordinary.


Hi Tom,

I wish you a good convalescence. 

Best wishes from me to you.

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
At 09:40 PM 10/08/99 +0200, you wrote:
>List Member "Eberhard Funck" <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de> wrote:
>>Thanks.  Yes, the tracking is what was eating my lunch.  Pat Bullman's
>>gridline just might adapt to correct *that*.  I'm down & out for a bit 
>>because my gut is turning wrong side out.  Something I ate, no doubt,
>>but there's been nothing out of the ordinary.
>
>
>Hi Tom,
>
>I wish you a good convalescence. 
>
>Best wishes from me to you.
>
>Eberhard
>

Thank you, kind sir.  I just ate a ham & cheese sandwich & it feels like it 
may stay where I put it.  Is 6:10 in the evening here, so maybe the curse
has moved on.

<G>
TomR.

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Subject: [gfabasic] MIDI-Input
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List Member Christof.Schardt@t-online.de (Christof Schardt) wrote:
I tried to get midi-Input from a keyboard by the
short appended listing.

It is a minimal-example:
    1. open device and direct the MIDI-messages to the
       windows message queue (WIN(1))

    2. Message loop: indicate incoming midi-messages

    3. Close

Unfortunatly it doesn't work.
Opening is ok (I get ret&=0 and a handle to MIDI-In).
But no message arrives.
 ( CASE $3c1 TO $3c6  is not entered)

Who knows why?

Bye
Christof

=====================================================



OPENW #1

@prepare_midi

hMidiIn& = 0
IdMidiIn& = 0
ret& =
@@midiInOpen(V:hMidiIn&,IdMidiIn&,WIN(1),0,CALLBACK_WINDOW%)

TITLEW #1 ,"MIDI : OPEN = #" + STR$(ret&) + ", hndl&= #" +
STR$(hMidiIn&)

DO
  PEEKEVENT // SLEEP
  SELECT _Mess
  CASE $3c1 TO $3c6 // MM_MIM_DATA&             // IF
MIDI-Data arrives
    PRINT "MIDI " + STR$(_lParam)               // just
print a message
    // DEFAULT
    // PRINT "*"
  ENDSELECT
LOOP UNTIL MENU(1) = 4

IF ret& = 0
  ~@@midiInClose(hMidiIn&)
ENDIF

FREEDLL 1
CLOSEW #1
END


PROCEDURE prepare_midi
  DLL #1, "mmsystem.dll"
    DECL LONG timeSetEvent(w,w,l,l,w)
    DECL LONG timeKillEvent(w)
    DECL LONG midiOutShortMsg(w,l)
    DECL LONG midiOutOpen(l,w,l,l,l)
    DECL LONG midiOutClose(w)
    DECL LONG timeGetDevCaps(l,w)
    DECL LONG timeBeginPeriod(w)
    DECL LONG timeEndPeriod(w)
    DECL WORD midiInGetNumDevs()
    DECL WORD midiInGetDevCaps(w,l,w)
    DECL LONG midiInOpen(l,w,l,l,l)
    DECL LONG midiInClose(w)
    DECL WORD midiOutGetNumDevs()
    DECL WORD midiOutGetDevCaps(w,l,w)
    DECL WORD midiOutGetErrorText(w,l,w)
  ENDDLL

  LET CALLBACK_WINDOW% = $10000
  LET CALLBACK_FUNCTION% = $30000

  LET MM_MIM_DATA& = $3C3

  LET  MMSYSERR_ERROR&        = 1 /* unspecified error */
  LET  MMSYSERR_BADDEVICEID&  = 2  /* device ID out of range
*/
  LET  MMSYSERR_NOTENABLED&   = 3  /* driver failed enable
*/
  LET  MMSYSERR_ALLOCATED     = 4  /* device already
allocated */
  //LET  MMSYSERR_INVALHANDLE  (MMSYSERR_BASE + 5)  /*
device handle is invalid */
  //LET  MMSYSERR_NODRIVER     (MMSYSERR_BASE + 6)  /* no
device driver present */
  //LET  MMSYSERR_NOMEM        (MMSYSERR_BASE + 7)  /*
memory allocation error */
  //LET  MMSYSERR_NOTSUPPORTED (MMSYSERR_BASE + 8)  /*
function isn't supported */
  //LET  MMSYSERR_BADERRNUM    (MMSYSERR_BASE + 9)  /* error
value out of range */
  //LET  MMSYSERR_INVALFLAG    (MMSYSERR_BASE + 10) /*
invalid flag passed */
  //LET  MMSYSERR_INVALPARAM   (MMSYSERR_BASE + 11) /*
invalid parameter passed */
  //LET  MMSYSERR_LASTERROR    (MMSYSERR_BASE + 11) /* last
error in range */

RETURN



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List Member Christof.Schardt@t-online.de (Christof Schardt) wrote:
I found the anwser:

These two commands had been missing:

~@@midiInStart(hMidiIn&)
......
~@@midiInStop(hMidiIn&)

Now it works fine.

Christof


-----Ursprngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Christof Schardt <Christof.Schardt@t-online.de>
An: gfabasic@gfa.net <gfabasic@gfa.net>
Datum: Mittwoch, 11. August 1999 22:29
Betreff: [gfabasic] MIDI-Input


>List Member Christof.Schardt@t-online.de (Christof Schardt)
wrote:
>I tried to get midi-Input from a keyboard by the
>short appended listing.
>
>It is a minimal-example:
>    1. open device and direct the MIDI-messages to the
>       windows message queue (WIN(1))
>
>    2. Message loop: indicate incoming midi-messages
>
>    3. Close
>
>Unfortunatly it doesn't work.
>Opening is ok (I get ret&=0 and a handle to MIDI-In).
>But no message arrives.
> ( CASE $3c1 TO $3c6  is not entered)
>
>Who knows why?
>
>Bye
>Christof
>
>=====================================================
>
>
>
>OPENW #1
>
>@prepare_midi
>
>hMidiIn& = 0
>IdMidiIn& = 0
>ret& =
>@@midiInOpen(V:hMidiIn&,IdMidiIn&,WIN(1),0,CALLBACK_WINDOW%
)
>
>TITLEW #1 ,"MIDI : OPEN = #" + STR$(ret&) + ", hndl&= #" +
>STR$(hMidiIn&)
>
>DO
>  PEEKEVENT // SLEEP
>  SELECT _Mess
>  CASE $3c1 TO $3c6 // MM_MIM_DATA&             // IF
>MIDI-Data arrives
>    PRINT "MIDI " + STR$(_lParam)               // just
>print a message
>    // DEFAULT
>    // PRINT "*"
>  ENDSELECT
>LOOP UNTIL MENU(1) = 4
>
>IF ret& = 0
>  ~@@midiInClose(hMidiIn&)
>ENDIF
>
>FREEDLL 1
>CLOSEW #1
>END
>
>
>PROCEDURE prepare_midi
>  DLL #1, "mmsystem.dll"
>    DECL LONG timeSetEvent(w,w,l,l,w)
>    DECL LONG timeKillEvent(w)
>    DECL LONG midiOutShortMsg(w,l)
>    DECL LONG midiOutOpen(l,w,l,l,l)
>    DECL LONG midiOutClose(w)
>    DECL LONG timeGetDevCaps(l,w)
>    DECL LONG timeBeginPeriod(w)
>    DECL LONG timeEndPeriod(w)
>    DECL WORD midiInGetNumDevs()
>    DECL WORD midiInGetDevCaps(w,l,w)
>    DECL LONG midiInOpen(l,w,l,l,l)
>    DECL LONG midiInClose(w)
>    DECL WORD midiOutGetNumDevs()
>    DECL WORD midiOutGetDevCaps(w,l,w)
>    DECL WORD midiOutGetErrorText(w,l,w)
>  ENDDLL
>
>  LET CALLBACK_WINDOW% = $10000
>  LET CALLBACK_FUNCTION% = $30000
>
>  LET MM_MIM_DATA& = $3C3
>
>  LET  MMSYSERR_ERROR&        = 1 /* unspecified error */
>  LET  MMSYSERR_BADDEVICEID&  = 2  /* device ID out of
range
>*/
>  LET  MMSYSERR_NOTENABLED&   = 3  /* driver failed enable
>*/
>  LET  MMSYSERR_ALLOCATED     = 4  /* device already
>allocated */
>  //LET  MMSYSERR_INVALHANDLE  (MMSYSERR_BASE + 5)  /*
>device handle is invalid */
>  //LET  MMSYSERR_NODRIVER     (MMSYSERR_BASE + 6)  /* no
>device driver present */
>  //LET  MMSYSERR_NOMEM        (MMSYSERR_BASE + 7)  /*
>memory allocation error */
>  //LET  MMSYSERR_NOTSUPPORTED (MMSYSERR_BASE + 8)  /*
>function isn't supported */
>  //LET  MMSYSERR_BADERRNUM    (MMSYSERR_BASE + 9)  /*
error
>value out of range */
>  //LET  MMSYSERR_INVALFLAG    (MMSYSERR_BASE + 10) /*
>invalid flag passed */
>  //LET  MMSYSERR_INVALPARAM   (MMSYSERR_BASE + 11) /*
>invalid parameter passed */
>  //LET  MMSYSERR_LASTERROR    (MMSYSERR_BASE + 11) /* last
>error in range */
>
>RETURN
>
>
>
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Subject: Re: [gfabasic] MIDI-Input
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Hi Christof,
How about a short working demo?
Dale Bryant

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----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 1999 1:21 PM
Subject: [gfabasic] MIDI-Input


> List Member Christof.Schardt@t-online.de (Christof Schardt) wrote:
> I tried to get midi-Input from a keyboard by the
> short appended listing.
>
> It is a minimal-example:
>     1. open device and direct the MIDI-messages to the
>        windows message queue (WIN(1))
>
>     2. Message loop: indicate incoming midi-messages
>
>     3. Close
>
> Unfortunatly it doesn't work.
> Opening is ok (I get ret&=0 and a handle to MIDI-In).
> But no message arrives.
>  ( CASE $3c1 TO $3c6  is not entered)
>
> Who knows why?
>
> Bye
> Christof
>
> =====================================================
>
>
>
> OPENW #1
>
> @prepare_midi
>
> hMidiIn& = 0
> IdMidiIn& = 0
> ret& =
> @@midiInOpen(V:hMidiIn&,IdMidiIn&,WIN(1),0,CALLBACK_WINDOW%)
>
> TITLEW #1 ,"MIDI : OPEN = #" + STR$(ret&) + ", hndl&= #" +
> STR$(hMidiIn&)
>
> DO
>   PEEKEVENT // SLEEP
>   SELECT _Mess
>   CASE $3c1 TO $3c6 // MM_MIM_DATA&             // IF
> MIDI-Data arrives
>     PRINT "MIDI " + STR$(_lParam)               // just
> print a message
>     // DEFAULT
>     // PRINT "*"
>   ENDSELECT
> LOOP UNTIL MENU(1) = 4
>
> IF ret& = 0
>   ~@@midiInClose(hMidiIn&)
> ENDIF
>
> FREEDLL 1
> CLOSEW #1
> END
>
>
> PROCEDURE prepare_midi
>   DLL #1, "mmsystem.dll"
>     DECL LONG timeSetEvent(w,w,l,l,w)
>     DECL LONG timeKillEvent(w)
>     DECL LONG midiOutShortMsg(w,l)
>     DECL LONG midiOutOpen(l,w,l,l,l)
>     DECL LONG midiOutClose(w)
>     DECL LONG timeGetDevCaps(l,w)
>     DECL LONG timeBeginPeriod(w)
>     DECL LONG timeEndPeriod(w)
>     DECL WORD midiInGetNumDevs()
>     DECL WORD midiInGetDevCaps(w,l,w)
>     DECL LONG midiInOpen(l,w,l,l,l)
>     DECL LONG midiInClose(w)
>     DECL WORD midiOutGetNumDevs()
>     DECL WORD midiOutGetDevCaps(w,l,w)
>     DECL WORD midiOutGetErrorText(w,l,w)
>   ENDDLL
>
>   LET CALLBACK_WINDOW% = $10000
>   LET CALLBACK_FUNCTION% = $30000
>
>   LET MM_MIM_DATA& = $3C3
>
>   LET  MMSYSERR_ERROR&        = 1 /* unspecified error */
>   LET  MMSYSERR_BADDEVICEID&  = 2  /* device ID out of range
> */
>   LET  MMSYSERR_NOTENABLED&   = 3  /* driver failed enable
> */
>   LET  MMSYSERR_ALLOCATED     = 4  /* device already
> allocated */
>   file://LET  MMSYSERR_INVALHANDLE  (MMSYSERR_BASE + 5)  /*
> device handle is invalid */
>   file://LET  MMSYSERR_NODRIVER     (MMSYSERR_BASE + 6)  /* no
> device driver present */
>   file://LET  MMSYSERR_NOMEM        (MMSYSERR_BASE + 7)  /*
> memory allocation error */
>   file://LET  MMSYSERR_NOTSUPPORTED (MMSYSERR_BASE + 8)  /*
> function isn't supported */
>   file://LET  MMSYSERR_BADERRNUM    (MMSYSERR_BASE + 9)  /* error
> value out of range */
>   file://LET  MMSYSERR_INVALFLAG    (MMSYSERR_BASE + 10) /*
> invalid flag passed */
>   file://LET  MMSYSERR_INVALPARAM   (MMSYSERR_BASE + 11) /*
> invalid parameter passed */
>   file://LET  MMSYSERR_LASTERROR    (MMSYSERR_BASE + 11) /* last
> error in range */
>
> RETURN
>
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List Member Christof.Schardt@t-online.de (Christof Schardt) wrote:
>Hi Christof,
>How about a short working demo?


Hy Dale,

is this an offer or a request?

The listing worked except the part, I described.
But now (see my second mail) it works fine.
I append it!

Bye
Christof



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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Hi Christof,
Thanks for the example. Will it play a midi file.
Dale Bryant
http://gfawhelp.gfa.net

> List Member Christof.Schardt@t-online.de (Christof Schardt) wrote:
> >Hi Christof,
> >How about a short working demo?
>
>
> Hy Dale,
>
> is this an offer or a request?
>
> The listing worked except the part, I described.
> But now (see my second mail) it works fine.
> I append it!
>
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> Christof
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List Member Micromiser Software <miser@cde.com> wrote:
I have fixed a bug in my dialog DLL that caused bold text not to be
displayed sometimes on Win3.1 systems when certain dialogs were displayed in
succession.

A reminder: This dialog tool lets you name basic dialog controls in a script
file with a few simple parameters. It then automatically lays out and
displays the dialog, then returns the selections without affecting the
calling program (somewhat like a messagebox or popup menu). It is free to
members of this list. Just download the shareware version at
www.micromiser.com/dialog.htm, and if you think it will work for you, send
me an email to miser@cde.com including your developer name and "GFA list
member".

In case you are interested, here's the code that produced the bug:

After a DIALOG command, a handle (F&) was obtained for a bold font:

DIALOG #1,DX&,DY&,DW&,DH&,L$(0),S%,CH|,"MS Sans Serif"
  FONT "MS Sans Serif",HEIGHT CH|, WIDTH CW|,WEIGHT 500 TO F&
  IF F&=0 THEN   'In case that doesn't work, try another way...
    A$="System"+CHR$(0)
    F&=CreateFont(CH|,CW|,0,0,500,0,0,0,ANSI_CHARSET,0,0,0,VARIABLE_PITCH |
FF_DONTCARE,V:A$)
  ENDIF

A text control was then set up with:

  LTEXT l$,ASC(ID$(LN|)),A&,Y&+J&,@TXTLEN(l$,BOLD|)+16,CH|,S%
  IF BOLD|=1 THEN 'replace default font with bold font F&
    ~SendMessage(DLG(1,ASC(ID$(LN|))),WM_SETFONT,F&,0)
  ENDIF

The problem was that GFA's LTEXT command was sometimes not finishing by the
time the ~SendMessage was executed. So I put in a loop to clear the message
queue, and this solved the problem:

  LTEXT l$,ASC(ID$(LN|)),A&,Y&+J&,@TXTLEN(l$,BOLD|)+16,CH|,S%
  IF BOLD|=1 THEN
    DO
      PEEKEVENT
    LOOP WHILE MENU(1)<>0 OR MENU(11)<>0
    ~SendMessage(DLG(1,ASC(ID$(LN|))),WM_SETFONT,F&,0)
  ENDIF

There was also an error in one of the sample scripts (DIALOG1.TXT), which is
fixed.

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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
LOG03c by Tom Record is now available at  the web site below. Click on the
Code button.
Thanks Tom,
Dale

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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
The LOG03C code of the day by Tom Record has been updated with LOG_X03.  At
the URL below just select the CODE button and then copy the code.
A sample output is shown below.

http://gfawhelp.gfa.net

A--H- c:\BOOTLOG.PRV
05/14/1999 16:18:56    33132
A--H- c:\BOOTLOG.TXT
05/14/1999 18:53:16    33317
A-SHR c:\IO.SYS
24/01/1996 11:11:10   214836
A--H- c:\GFW\BBROWN\WFED.GID
09/14/1999 11:49:50     8628
A--H- c:\GFW\VIEWER.GID
21/15/1999 16:57:02     8628
A--H- c:\GFW\BCOPY.GID
20/15/1999 13:08:46     8628
A-SHR c:\MSDOS.SYS
17/09/1997 18:24:28     1641
A-SH- c:\DETLOG.TXT
17/03/1996 10:46:40    35966
A--H- c:\HMPRO\SOURCE\GFAWHELP.GID
28/15/1999 13:32:56    87448
A--H- c:\HMPRO\SOURCE\ATEST1.GID
04/00/1999 10:19:02     8628
A--H- c:\HMPRO\SOURCE\BAPID.GID
04/00/1999 10:33:56     8628
A--H- c:\HMPRO\SOURCE\EMBED256.GID
04/00/1999 10:09:02     8628
A--H- c:\HMPRO\SOURCE\CTRLDLL.GID
04/00/1999 10:35:32     8628
A--H- c:\HMPRO\SOURCE\GFAWHEL~.GID
28/15/1999 12:02:46     8628
A--H- c:\HMPRO\SOURCE\SHOWBMP~.GID
10/14/1999 16:53:42     8628
A--H- c:\HMPRO\SOURCE\VIEWER.GID
20/15/1999 15:56:12     8628
A--H- c:\HMPRO\SOURCE\ARSENAL.GID
04/00/1999 10:35:54    10823
A--H- c:\HMPRO\SOURCE\ATEST.GID
11/00/1999 12:34:08     8628
A--H- c:\HMPRO\SOURCE\ATES~.GID
11/00/1999 17:22:54     8628
A--H- c:\HMPRO\HLPMAG4.GID
11/00/1999 17:19:32    57323
A-SHR c:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM.DAT
13/00/1999 08:49:16  3608464
A-SHR c:\WINDOWS\USER.DA0
13/00/1999 07:48:56   614676
A-SHR c:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM.DA0
13/00/1999 07:48:58  3608464
A-SHR c:\WINDOWS\USER.DAT
13/00/1999 08:49:16   614676
A--H- c:\WINDOWS\GFAWIN\GFAWIN.GID
05/00/1999 16:44:02    49642
A--H- c:\WINDOWS\DESKTOP\MYBRIE~1\DESKTOP.INI
06/14/1999 18:05:22       82
A--H- c:\WINDOWS\DESKTOP\MYBRIE~1\BRIEFC~1
06/14/1999 18:05:30      159
-DS-- c:\WINDOWS\FONTS
05/14/1999 14:00:34    <DIR>
A--H- c:\WINDOWS\FONTS\8514FIX.FON
24/01/1996 11:11:10    10992
A--H- c:\WINDOWS\FONTS\8514OEM.FON
24/01/1996 11:11:10    12288
A--H- c:\WINDOWS\FONTS\8514SYS.FON
24/01/1996 11:11:10     9600
A--H- c:\WINDOWS\FONTS\COURE.FON
24/01/1996 11:11:10    23424
A--H- c:\WINDOWS\FONTS\COURF.FON
24/01/1996 11:11:10    31744
A-SH- c:\WINDOWS\FONTS\DOSAPP.FON
24/01/1996 11:11:10    44304
A-SH- c:\WINDOWS\FONTS\MARLETT.TTF
24/01/1996 11:11:10    17412
A--H- c:\WINDOWS\FONTS\MODERN.FON
24/01/1996 11:11:10     7968
A--H- c:\WINDOWS\FONTS\SERIFE.FON
24/01/1996 11:11:10    57952
A--H- c:\WINDOWS\FONTS\SERIFF.FON
24/01/1996 11:11:10    81744
A--H- c:\WINDOWS\FONTS\SMALLE.FON
24/01/1996 11:11:10    24352
A--H- c:\WINDOWS\FONTS\SMALLF.FON
24/01/1996 11:11:10    19632
A--H- c:\WINDOWS\FONTS\SSERIFE.FON
24/01/1996 11:11:10    64544
A--H- c:\WINDOWS\FONTS\SSERIFF.FON
24/01/1996 11:11:10    89680
A--H- c:\WINDOWS\FONTS\SYMBOLE.FON
24/01/1996 11:11:10    56336
A--H- c:\WINDOWS\FONTS\SYMBOLF.FON
24/01/1996 11:11:10    80928
A-SH- c:\WINDOWS\FONTS\VGAFIX.FON
24/01/1996 11:11:10     5360
A-SH- c:\WINDOWS\FONTS\VGAOEM.FON
24/01/1996 11:11:10     5168
A-SH- c:\WINDOWS\FONTS\VGASYS.FON
24/01/1996 11:11:10     7296
A--H- c:\WINDOWS\HELP\WINDOWS.GID
07/14/1999 08:45:24   244345
A--H- c:\WINDOWS\HELP\INT-MAIL.GID
05/14/1999 15:07:48    19039
-D-H- c:\WINDOWS\INF
05/14/1999 14:00:36    <DIR>
-D-H- c:\WINDOWS\SPOOL
05/14/1999 14:00:36    <DIR>
A--HR c:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\SHELLEXT\MSCREATE.DIR
05/14/1999 16:10:42        0
-D-H- c:\WINDOWS\SYSBCKUP
05/14/1999 14:00:38    <DIR>
-D-H- c:\WINDOWS\PIF
05/14/1999 14:00:42    <DIR>
A--H- c:\WINDOWS\INTR32.SYS
01/10/1980 23:45:44      648
-DS-- c:\WINDOWS\FAVORI~1
05/14/1999 14:00:44    <DIR>
-DS-- c:\WINDOWS\FAVORI~1\CHANNELS
05/14/1999 16:20:46    <DIR>
---H- c:\WINDOWS\FAVORI~1\CHANNELS\DESKTOP.INI
05/14/1999 16:20:46       93
-DS-- c:\WINDOWS\FAVORI~1\CHANNELS\WARNER~1
05/14/1999 16:20:46    <DIR>
---H- c:\WINDOWS\FAVORI~1\CHANNELS\WARNER~1\DESKTOP.INI
05/14/1999 16:20:46      273
-DS-- c:\WINDOWS\FAVORI~1\CHANNELS\THEPOI~1
05/14/1999 16:20:46    <DIR>
---H- c:\WINDOWS\FAVORI~1\CHANNELS\THEPOI~1\DESKTOP.INI
05/14/1999 16:20:46      270
-DS-- c:\WINDOWS\FAVORI~1\CHANNELS\DISNEY
05/14/1999 16:20:46    <DIR>
---H- c:\WINDOWS\FAVORI~1\CHANNELS\DISNEY\DESKTOP.INI
05/14/1999 16:20:46      279
-DS-- c:\WINDOWS\FAVORI~1\CHANNELS\MSNBC
05/14/1999 16:20:46    <DIR>
---H- c:\WINDOWS\FAVORI~1\CHANNELS\MSNBC\DESKTOP.INI
05/14/1999 16:20:46      276
-DS-- c:\WINDOWS\FAVORI~1\CHANNELS\THEMIC~1
05/14/1999 16:20:46    <DIR>
---H- c:\WINDOWS\FAVORI~1\CHANNELS\THEMIC~1\DESKTOP.INI
05/14/1999 16:20:46      258
-DS-- c:\WINDOWS\FAVORI~1\CHANNELS\LIFEST~1
05/14/1999 16:20:46    <DIR>
-DS-- c:\WINDOWS\FAVORI~1\CHANNELS\LIFEST~1\MICROS~1
05/14/1999 16:20:46    <DIR>
---H- c:\WINDOWS\FAVORI~1\CHANNELS\LIFEST~1\MICROS~1\DESKTOP.INI
05/14/1999 16:20:46      276
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List Member Micromiser Software <miser@cde.com> wrote:
Does anyone have any ideas on this FREEFONT puzzle? The following is some
code in my Dialog program having to do with the operation of a font
(handle=F&). I leave out all code not affecting/affected by this font:

DIALOG #1,DX&,DY&,DW&,DH&,L$(0),S%,CH|,"MS Sans Serif"
  FONT "MS Sans Serif",HEIGHT CH|, WIDTH CW|,WEIGHT 500 TO F&
   ...
  LTEXT l$,ASC(ID$(LN|)),A&,Y&+J&,@TXTLEN(l$,BOLD|)+16,CH|,S%
  ~SendMessage(DLG(1,ASC(ID$(LN|))),WM_SETFONT,F&,0)
    ...
  FREEFONT F& 'first time F& is freed
ENDDIALOG
 ...
SHOWDIALOG #1
 ...
CLOSEDIALOG #1
FREEFONT F& 'second time F& is freed

In Windows 3.1 only, if I leave out the first "FREEFONT F&", then the
"SendMessage" font change has no affect on the "LTEXT" control (i.e. it
doesn't work). I am pretty sure that is because the font is using up too
much memory in Win3.1 (along with other objects in the code), not leaving
enough to then change the font. By freeing the font here, there is more
memory and the font is changed.

But if I leave out the second "FREEFONT F&", then some "LTEXT" text does not
display at all in successive calls of the dialog box. If I leave it in, all
is fine. So I assume some remnant of the font is still in memory when the
program gets to the second FREEFONT command.

The puzzle is this: Why do I need to free the same font twice? I know the
FREEFONT command is operating in both cases, and is necessary in both cases
for the LTEXT font change to work.

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Steve
Do you really want to free the font before you've used it?  I *think*
the first freefont is unnecessary & detrimental to your program.
<G>
TomR.


At 06:06 AM 14/08/99 -0400, you wrote:
>List Member Micromiser Software <miser@cde.com> wrote:
>Does anyone have any ideas on this FREEFONT puzzle? The following is some
>code in my Dialog program having to do with the operation of a font
>(handle=F&). I leave out all code not affecting/affected by this font:
>
>DIALOG #1,DX&,DY&,DW&,DH&,L$(0),S%,CH|,"MS Sans Serif"
>  FONT "MS Sans Serif",HEIGHT CH|, WIDTH CW|,WEIGHT 500 TO F&
>   ...
>  LTEXT l$,ASC(ID$(LN|)),A&,Y&+J&,@TXTLEN(l$,BOLD|)+16,CH|,S%
>  ~SendMessage(DLG(1,ASC(ID$(LN|))),WM_SETFONT,F&,0)
>    ...
>  FREEFONT F& 'first time F& is freed
>ENDDIALOG
> ...
>SHOWDIALOG #1
> ...
>CLOSEDIALOG #1
>FREEFONT F& 'second time F& is freed
>
>In Windows 3.1 only, if I leave out the first "FREEFONT F&", then the
>"SendMessage" font change has no affect on the "LTEXT" control (i.e. it
>doesn't work). I am pretty sure that is because the font is using up too
>much memory in Win3.1 (along with other objects in the code), not leaving
>enough to then change the font. By freeing the font here, there is more
>memory and the font is changed.
>
>But if I leave out the second "FREEFONT F&", then some "LTEXT" text does not
>display at all in successive calls of the dialog box. If I leave it in, all
>is fine. So I assume some remnant of the font is still in memory when the
>program gets to the second FREEFONT command.
>
>The puzzle is this: Why do I need to free the same font twice? I know the
>FREEFONT command is operating in both cases, and is necessary in both cases
>for the LTEXT font change to work.
>
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List Member "EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" <JoeHurst@snafu.de> wrote:
How about freeing the font _after_ closing the dialog? Deleting this resource
before displaying the dialog removes it from memory so some of your
dialog-elements with the new-but-deleted-font take the standard-font again.

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List Member Micromiser Software <miser@cde.com> wrote:
Hi Tom and Joe,
   Thanks for looking at my code. Tom, I hope you're feeling better.

   You both give the same advice, and I would like to take it. I have 20
different dialogs I run in a loop to test things, and it's easy to vary them
without changing code or compiling (they are script files). If I remove the
first FREEFONT, I then miss "bold" fonts here and there (only in Win3.1). If
I leave it in, all are perfect. Maybe there will be a problem on the 21st
dialog, but for now this "fix" works perfectly.

   Maybe there is a better fix, but I'll tell you, I moved that ~SendMessage
and FREEFONT code all over the damn place, tried TRUE/FALSE, Postmessage,
etc., and remarked out other controls and objects--nothing worked. The code
is too voluminous to post. You wouldn't want to wade through it anyway.

   It's really not a problem now, unless I get a bug report about missing
bold font. Unlikely since 32bit downloads outnumber 16bit on my site 30 or
40 to one (and dropping fast). It just puzzles me why this font needed the
second FREEFONT (and why the first one works "in reverse").

   Windows programming: "The art of making something that works for everyone
else work for you."

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
At 04:36 PM 14/08/99 -0400, you wrote:
>List Member Micromiser Software <miser@cde.com> wrote:
>Hi Tom and Joe,
>   Thanks for looking at my code. Tom, I hope you're feeling better.
>
>   You both give the same advice, and I would like to take it. I have 20
>different dialogs I run in a loop to test things, and it's easy to vary=
 them
>without changing code or compiling (they are script files). If I remove the
>first FREEFONT, I then miss "bold" fonts here and there (only in Win3.1).=
 If
>I leave it in, all are perfect. Maybe there will be a problem on the 21st
>dialog, but for now this "fix" works perfectly.
>
>   Maybe there is a better fix, but I'll tell you, I moved that=
 ~SendMessage
>and FREEFONT code all over the damn place, tried TRUE/FALSE, Postmessage,
>etc., and remarked out other controls and objects--nothing worked. The code
>is too voluminous to post. You wouldn't want to wade through it anyway.
>

Steve
m_dialog.lst... on Joe's site & Roland's

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List Member jerry allen <jaln@sprintmail.com> wrote:
Does anyone have info on a low level routine in .dll form or whatever to
read/write the printer port data, status and control registers in NT or 95
using GFAW?
If so, please advise.



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List Member Micromiser Software <miser@cde.com> wrote:
At 06:54 AM 8/16/99 -0700, you wrote:
>List Member jerry allen <jaln@sprintmail.com> wrote:
>Does anyone have info on a low level routine in .dll form or whatever to
>read/write the printer port data, status and control registers in NT or 95
>using GFAW?
>If so, please advise.

Hi Jerry,

Here's some code derived from lengthy printing code in my business program
that works on W95 (don't know about NT). Without testing it in this form, I
can't guarantee it will work as is, but contains the essential elements.
Also note that I am only now in the process of determining values for "false
errors" from the $17 interrupt, but the below two work on about 10 different
W95 stations/printers so far.

Important: be sure to use "LPT1" not "LPT1:"

GOSUB LPRINT("Print me and end this line with CRLF")
GOSUB LPRINT("Print me but don't add a CRLF;")
GOSUB LPRINT("Add this to the previous line.")

PROCEDURE LPRINT(dummy$) 
  LOCAL AH|
  ~INTR($17,_AH=2,_DX=0) 'Stolen from GFAWHELP <G>
  AH|=_AH
  IF BTST(AH|,7) = FALSE THEN
    IF AH|<>16 AND AH|<>80 THEN 'Avoid false errors
      'Handle printer not ready
    ENDIF
  ENDIF
  OPEN "O",#0,"LPT1"
  IF RIGHT$(dummy$,1)=";" THEN
    IF dummy$<>";" THEN
      ? #0,LEFT$(dummy$,LEN(dummy$)-1);
    ENDIF
  ELSE
    ? #0,dummy$
  ENDIF
  CLOSE #0
RETURN

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List Member jerry allen <jaln@sprintmail.com> wrote:
Thanks, I'll play around with it. But I think NT might have a problem with
it---permissions and all. I'll let you know.

Micromiser Software wrote:

> List Member Micromiser Software <miser@cde.com> wrote:
> At 06:54 AM 8/16/99 -0700, you wrote:
> >List Member jerry allen <jaln@sprintmail.com> wrote:
> >Does anyone have info on a low level routine in .dll form or whatever to
> >read/write the printer port data, status and control registers in NT or 95
> >using GFAW?
> >If so, please advise.
>
> Hi Jerry,
>
> Here's some code derived from lengthy printing code in my business program
> that works on W95 (don't know about NT). Without testing it in this form, I
> can't guarantee it will work as is, but contains the essential elements.
> Also note that I am only now in the process of determining values for "false
> errors" from the $17 interrupt, but the below two work on about 10 different
> W95 stations/printers so far.
>
> Important: be sure to use "LPT1" not "LPT1:"
>
> GOSUB LPRINT("Print me and end this line with CRLF")
> GOSUB LPRINT("Print me but don't add a CRLF;")
> GOSUB LPRINT("Add this to the previous line.")
>
> PROCEDURE LPRINT(dummy$)
>   LOCAL AH|
>   ~INTR($17,_AH=2,_DX=0) 'Stolen from GFAWHELP <G>
>   AH|=_AH
>   IF BTST(AH|,7) = FALSE THEN
>     IF AH|<>16 AND AH|<>80 THEN 'Avoid false errors
>       'Handle printer not ready
>     ENDIF
>   ENDIF
>   OPEN "O",#0,"LPT1"
>   IF RIGHT$(dummy$,1)=";" THEN
>     IF dummy$<>";" THEN
>       ? #0,LEFT$(dummy$,LEN(dummy$)-1);
>     ENDIF
>   ELSE
>     ? #0,dummy$
>   ENDIF
>   CLOSE #0
> RETURN
>
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List Member S.Baunack@ifw-dresden.de wrote:
Hi,
I try to call an editor in GFA-Basic 4.38 using

a% = EXEC(editor$,file_in$)

where
editor$ : contains the path and name of my editor
file_in$: contains the path and name of the file to be edited

It works well under Windows95. It seems not to work under WinNT4.
So far, I can only call editors which are located in the Windows directory
(like Notepad.exe and Write.exe).

Any suggestions are welcome

Stefan Baunack



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List Member "Eberhard Funck" <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de> wrote:
Hallo Stefan

Try the Windows API Message:

UINT WinExec(lpszCmdLine, fuCmdShow)

LPCSTR lpszCmdLine; /* address of command line */
UINT fuCmdShow; /* window style for new app */

Example:

file$ = drive:\path\name.exe + Space+ drive:\path\filename
~WinExec( file$, SW_SHOW)

I have try it yet under NT4.0 and it works.

Greetings

Eberhard

>I try to call an editor in GFA-Basic 4.38 using
>
>a% = EXEC(editor$,file_in$)
>
>where
>editor$ : contains the path and name of my editor
>file_in$: contains the path and name of the file to be edited
>
>It works well under Windows95. It seems not to work under WinNT4.
>So far, I can only call editors which are located in the Windows directory
>(like Notepad.exe and Write.exe).
>
>Any suggestions are welcome
>
>Stefan Baunack
>
>
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
What is name.exe and what is filename. Can you really have two paths defined
in one string?


> file$ = drive:\path\name.exe + Space+ drive:\path\filename
> ~WinExec( file$, SW_SHOW)

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> List Member "Eberhard Funck" <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de> wrote:
> Hallo Stefan
>
> Try the Windows API Message:
>
> UINT WinExec(lpszCmdLine, fuCmdShow)
>
> LPCSTR lpszCmdLine; /* address of command line */
> UINT fuCmdShow; /* window style for new app */
>
> Example:
>
> file$ = drive:\path\name.exe + Space+ drive:\path\filename
> ~WinExec( file$, SW_SHOW)
>
> I have try it yet under NT4.0 and it works.
>
> Greetings
>
> Eberhard
>
> >I try to call an editor in GFA-Basic 4.38 using
> >
> >a% = EXEC(editor$,file_in$)
> >
> >where
> >editor$ : contains the path and name of my editor
> >file_in$: contains the path and name of the file to be edited
> >
> >It works well under Windows95. It seems not to work under WinNT4.
> >So far, I can only call editors which are located in the Windows
directory
> >(like Notepad.exe and Write.exe).
> >
> >Any suggestions are welcome
> >
> >Stefan Baunack
> >
> >
> >
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List Member "Eberhard Funck" <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de> wrote:
Hallo Dale,

You can define the path for the application and for the filename,
 that the application load if it runing.

Another excample:

app$ =3D "C:\Bitmap\Bitmap.exe"
file$ =3D "D:\Images\xyz.bmp"
Between the two strings it must be append a space,
like the DOS Command line. There you can also
define paths for the two files.

~WinExec (app$+" "+file$, SW_SHOW)

All right?

Eberhard


-----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Dale Bryant <adbryant@email.msn.com>
An: gfabasic@gfa.net <gfabasic@gfa.net>
Datum: Mittwoch, 18. August 1999 17:48
Betreff: Re: [gfabasic] EXEC in NT


>List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
>What is name.exe and what is filename. Can you really have two paths
defined
>in one string?
>
>
>> file$ =3D drive:\path\name.exe + Space+ drive:\path\filename
>> ~WinExec( file$, SW_SHOW)
>
>http://gfawhelp.gfa.net
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Eberhard Funck <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de>
>To: <gfabasic@gfa.net>
>Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 1999 8:27 AM
>Subject: Re: [gfabasic] EXEC in NT
>
>
>> List Member "Eberhard Funck" <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de> wrote:
>> Hallo Stefan
>>
>> Try the Windows API Message:
>>
>> UINT WinExec(lpszCmdLine, fuCmdShow)
>>
>> LPCSTR lpszCmdLine; /* address of command line */
>> UINT fuCmdShow; /* window style for new app */
>>
>> Example:
>>
>> file$ =3D drive:\path\name.exe + Space+ drive:\path\filename
>> ~WinExec( file$, SW_SHOW)
>>
>> I have try it yet under NT4.0 and it works.
>>
>> Greetings
>>
>> Eberhard
>>
>> >I try to call an editor in GFA-Basic 4.38 using
>> >
>> >a% =3D EXEC(editor$,file_in$)
>> >
>> >where
>> >editor$ : contains the path and name of my editor
>> >file_in$: contains the path and name of the file to be edited
>> >
>> >It works well under Windows95. It seems not to work under WinNT4.
>> >So far, I can only call editors which are located in the Windows
>directory
>> >(like Notepad.exe and Write.exe).
>> >
>> >Any suggestions are welcome
>> >
>> >Stefan Baunack


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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Yes, Eberhard, that  is clear. Thanks for replying. Am I to understand that
this is for WINDOWS NT only?
How was the vacation? Hope you had a great time!!

Dale

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> List Member "Eberhard Funck" <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de> wrote:
> Hallo Dale,
>
> You can define the path for the application and for the filename,
>  that the application load if it runing.
>
> Another excample:
>
> app$ = "C:\Bitmap\Bitmap.exe"
> file$ = "D:\Images\xyz.bmp"
> Between the two strings it must be append a space,
> like the DOS Command line. There you can also
> define paths for the two files.
>
> ~WinExec (app$+" "+file$, SW_SHOW)
>
> All right?
>
> Eberhard
>
>
> -----Ursprngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Dale Bryant <adbryant@email.msn.com>
> An: gfabasic@gfa.net <gfabasic@gfa.net>
> Datum: Mittwoch, 18. August 1999 17:48
> Betreff: Re: [gfabasic] EXEC in NT
>
>
> >List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> >What is name.exe and what is filename. Can you really have two paths
> defined
> >in one string?
> >
> >
> >> file$ = drive:\path\name.exe + Space+ drive:\path\filename
> >> ~WinExec( file$, SW_SHOW)
> >
> >http://gfawhelp.gfa.net
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: Eberhard Funck <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de>
> >To: <gfabasic@gfa.net>
> >Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 1999 8:27 AM
> >Subject: Re: [gfabasic] EXEC in NT
> >
> >
> >> List Member "Eberhard Funck" <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de> wrote:
> >> Hallo Stefan
> >>
> >> Try the Windows API Message:
> >>
> >> UINT WinExec(lpszCmdLine, fuCmdShow)
> >>
> >> LPCSTR lpszCmdLine; /* address of command line */
> >> UINT fuCmdShow; /* window style for new app */
> >>
> >> Example:
> >>
> >> file$ = drive:\path\name.exe + Space+ drive:\path\filename
> >> ~WinExec( file$, SW_SHOW)
> >>
> >> I have try it yet under NT4.0 and it works.
> >>
> >> Greetings
> >>
> >> Eberhard
> >>
> >> >I try to call an editor in GFA-Basic 4.38 using
> >> >
> >> >a% = EXEC(editor$,file_in$)
> >> >
> >> >where
> >> >editor$ : contains the path and name of my editor
> >> >file_in$: contains the path and name of the file to be edited
> >> >
> >> >It works well under Windows95. It seems not to work under WinNT4.
> >> >So far, I can only call editors which are located in the Windows
> >directory
> >> >(like Notepad.exe and Write.exe).
> >> >
> >> >Any suggestions are welcome
> >> >
> >> >Stefan Baunack
>
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List Member Jim Pennington <Jim@x-act.net> wrote:
Hi all,

Why does the simple stuff never work and the hard stuff is easy?    :{

I have an OS/2 network with my laptop connected (Win95). All
drive partitions on the OS/2 network are HPFS except for one
station which dual boots to MSDOS or OS/2. When OS/2 is
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files from anywhere to anywhere, create and delete directories, run
network compatible apps, etc.

EXCEPT:

In GFAW the command MKDIR on the Win95 system gives an "Access Denied"
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Can anyone help this lady?

http://gfawhelp.gfa.net
----- Original Message -----
From: Dave Williams (Gemworks) <dave.williams@gemworks.demon.co.uk>
To: Dale Bryant <adbryant@email.msn.com>
Cc: G.Ludinski <Eve@lcl.source.co.uk>
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 1999 12:04 AM
Subject: Fw: GFABASIC on NT problems


> Hi Dale,
>
> Have a user that has installed GFA438 on NT...  Now has some problems
which
> I wonder if you are able to shed some light on?
>
> From my conversation, she did manually delete some GFA files on her
system.
> Said about re-installing interpreter but guess no change.
>
> If you are able to assist, please feel free to reply directly but would
> appreciate being cc'd if possible .
>
> Kind regards
>
> Dave.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: G.Ludinski <Eve@lcl.source.co.uk>
> Sent: 18 August 1999 13:40
> Subject: GFABASIC on NT problems
>
>
> > Dear David,
> >
> > As requested I am emailing the problem with your GFABASIC. I installed
> > GFABASIC Interpreter (latest 4.38)on my new NT computer. When it was
> > installed I tried to run GFABASIC but it came up with the message 'File
> > Error: Cannot find TOOLHELP.DLL'. This was bad enough, but then when I
> > run already written GFABASIC EXE interpreter programs (with its
> > GFARUN10.DLL) it comes up with the same message and will no longer run
> > (they ran before). when trying to run these programs I next get the
> > message  'Can't run 16bit Windows program: Cannot find file ... or one
> > of its components. Check to ensure any path or filename are correct and
> > all required librabries are available'. TOOLHELP.DLL is there but it is
> > in C:\WINNT not C:\WINDOWS being an NT computer. I need to run the
> > already written GFABASIC programs urgently.
> >
> > Regards
> > Eve
> >
> >
> >
>



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List Member "Eberhard Funck" <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de> wrote:
Hi Dale,
This is for W3.xx, W9x and NT.
My vacation was great, but too short, only 5 weeks.
Now I work three weeks allready.

I am always in hurry. I must work after my work in my and my mothers
garden. Too much work for one people, but it must be done.

Until later

Eberhard



>List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
>Yes, Eberhard, that  is clear. Thanks for replying. Am I to understand t=
hat
>this is for WINDOWS NT only?
>How was the vacation? Hope you had a great time!!
>
>Dale
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>----- Original Message -----
>From: Eberhard Funck <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de>
>To: <gfabasic@gfa.net>
>Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 1999 10:36 AM
>Subject: Re: [gfabasic] EXEC in NT
>
>
>> List Member "Eberhard Funck" <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de> wrote:
>> Hallo Dale,
>>
>> You can define the path for the application and for the filename,
>>  that the application load if it runing.
>>
>> Another excample:
>>
>> app$ =3D "C:\Bitmap\Bitmap.exe"
>> file$ =3D "D:\Images\xyz.bmp"
>> Between the two strings it must be append a space,
>> like the DOS Command line. There you can also
>> define paths for the two files.
>>
>> ~WinExec (app$+" "+file$, SW_SHOW)
>>
>> All right?
>>
>> Eberhard
>>
>>
>> -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----
>> Von: Dale Bryant <adbryant@email.msn.com>
>> An: gfabasic@gfa.net <gfabasic@gfa.net>
>> Datum: Mittwoch, 18. August 1999 17:48
>> Betreff: Re: [gfabasic] EXEC in NT
>>
>>
>> >List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
>> >What is name.exe and what is filename. Can you really have two paths
>> defined
>> >in one string?
>> >
>> >
>> >> file$ =3D drive:\path\name.exe + Space+ drive:\path\filename
>> >> ~WinExec( file$, SW_SHOW)
>> >
>> >http://gfawhelp.gfa.net
>> >----- Original Message -----
>> >From: Eberhard Funck <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de>
>> >To: <gfabasic@gfa.net>
>> >Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 1999 8:27 AM
>> >Subject: Re: [gfabasic] EXEC in NT
>> >
>> >
>> >> List Member "Eberhard Funck" <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de> wrote:
>> >> Hallo Stefan
>> >>
>> >> Try the Windows API Message:
>> >>
>> >> UINT WinExec(lpszCmdLine, fuCmdShow)
>> >>
>> >> LPCSTR lpszCmdLine; /* address of command line */
>> >> UINT fuCmdShow; /* window style for new app */
>> >>
>> >> Example:
>> >>
>> >> file$ =3D drive:\path\name.exe + Space+ drive:\path\filename
>> >> ~WinExec( file$, SW_SHOW)
>> >>
>> >> I have try it yet under NT4.0 and it works.
>> >>
>> >> Greetings
>> >>
>> >> Eberhard
>> >>
>> >> >I try to call an editor in GFA-Basic 4.38 using
>> >> >
>> >> >a% =3D EXEC(editor$,file_in$)
>> >> >
>> >> >where
>> >> >editor$ : contains the path and name of my editor
>> >> >file_in$: contains the path and name of the file to be edited
>> >> >
>> >> >It works well under Windows95. It seems not to work under WinNT4.
>> >> >So far, I can only call editors which are located in the Windows
>> >directory
>> >> >(like Notepad.exe and Write.exe).
>> >> >
>> >> >Any suggestions are welcome
>> >> >
>> >> >Stefan Baunack
>>
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Hi.

1. I have a problem with position of fileselect box. I want to change =
position to middle of the screen.
2. I can't use Windows 95 Fileselect box with long file name because I =
can't change Language on the button. For e.g: =D6ffen or Abbrechen
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If you can please help me
Peter.

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Hi Deny,
Frust???
What shall this????

Eberhard


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List Member HSMU_BER_SG <HSMU_BER_SG@compuserve.com> wrote:
Hi Eve,
The "Toolhelp.dll" must be in C:\WINNT\system32. =

So I hope You have no problems.

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Hans
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> Dale,
>
> Is there an easy way of inputting equations as in the direct mode of GFA?
> Like:    (1/2 + 1/4) /2
>
> I wrote a routine to do it in a program but am wondering if it is
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>
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Hi Hans,
As Eve is not on the mail list I have forwarded your  answer to her.
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Hi Eve,
The "Toolhelp.dll" must be in C:\WINNT\system32.
So I hope You have no problems.

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Hans

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I would like to know if somebody can explain me how I can bring pictures =
to=20
screen in a "transparent way", the way like "GIF"-Files are presented in =
the=20
internet...

Thanks,

Ulli Stemmeler
M=FCnster/Germany

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List Member BDD <BrentDeck@compuserve.com> wrote:
> Is there an easy way of inputting equations as in the direct mode of GF=
A?
> Like:    (1/2 + 1/4) /2


A number of parsers are available ass DLLs or as C functions which may be=

linked to GFA.

One that is available as a beta download is at =

http://www.ucalc.com/dll/beta.html.

A search of the WWW on the keyword "parser" should find more.

I have not used any of these. If anyone can recommend a good one, I'm all=

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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
A link to Wilhelm Bueckmann's GFA page has been added to the GFAWHELP links
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Want to know the constant value of WM_CREATE or any of the WM_ MESSAGES?
Check out  CONSTANTS.ZIP from the utility page on the site below.  Shows all
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Want to know the constant value of WM_CREATE or any of the WM_ MESSAGES?
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
GFAWHELP now comes with a GFAWHELP.INI file.  Many programmers have
requested a way to call GFABASIC from the location that they decided to
store GFAWIN37.EXE.  If your path to GFAWIN37.EXE is not in the
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the gfa= to your GFAWIN37 location. When the path is set correctly in the
GFAWHELP.INI file then the Gfa menu button will load Gfa Basic for you.

When a routine is displayed that you wish to check just click the Copy
button and the displayed routine will be copied to the ClipBoard.  Clicking
on the Gfa menu button will load GFA Basic.  The contents of the ClipBoard
may then be PASTED into the Gfa  Editor.  The .ini file is a text file and
may be edited with any text editor.

Note: The GFAWHELP.INI file MUST be in the C:\WINDOWS directory.

; -------------------------------------------------------------
; Ini-File for GFAWHELP
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[Gfabasic]
gfa=C:\WINDOWS\GFAWIN\GFAWIN37.EXE

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List Member "Andras Szalay" <a.szalay@mail.matav.hu> wrote:
>> Does anyone have info on a low level routine in .dll form or whatever to
>> read/write the printer port data, status and control registers in NT or 95
>> using GFAW?

Jerry,

the simplest (quick and dirty) way to do that is directly accessing the 
port addresses (data=$378, status=$379, control=$37A), e.g.

dport& = $378  // address of the printer port
OUT PORT(dport&),$55

sets the data port to $55.

I am sure that the WINDOWS gurus will cry by seeing that, but I use this
method very extensively for communicating with audio DSP development
boards and I never had any problem with that under W95. I do not know NT.
If you need the locations of the individual bits in the registers / connectors
I can send you.

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List Member "Andras Szalay" <a.szalay@mail.matav.hu> wrote:
Christoph,

your solution works great!!! I do not know if you followed that, 
but a few weeks ago we made big efforts with John Findlay
(mostly him, I just assisted) trying to find a solution for a 
MIDI input. The only reason why I still use occasionally my 
old ATARI ST is that it is so easy to handle MIDI input in
GFA for ATARI. Now, when I will have some time I will convert
some of the useful utilities that I have written in the last 12 years.

Andras

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List Member Christof.Schardt@t-online.de (Christof Schardt) wrote:
Hi Andras,

I tried a lot to create a MIDI-input DLL some days ago, but
after a while, I gave it up.
The problem is: when opening mIDI-IN, you have to assign a
'receiver' for the messages of the midi-driver.
Two possibilites are there: direct the messages to a window
or to a callback-function.

The first step succeded: directing to the applications
window. I can post the code, if it is of interest.

The second failed: all my efforts caused crashes. (I can
post the code as well ;-)

At the end, I wrote a DLL in Borland-C. It works.

Bye
Christof


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Von: Andras Szalay <a.szalay@mail.matav.hu>
An: gfabasic@gfa.net <gfabasic@gfa.net>
Datum: Donnerstag, 26. August 1999 20:35
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List Member "Andras Szalay" <a.szalay@mail.matav.hu> wrote:
Christoph,

your solution works great!!! I do not know if you followed
that,
but a few weeks ago we made big efforts with John Findlay
(mostly him, I just assisted) trying to find a solution for
a
MIDI input. The only reason why I still use occasionally my
old ATARI ST is that it is so easy to handle MIDI input in
GFA for ATARI. Now, when I will have some time I will
convert
some of the useful utilities that I have written in the last
12 years.

Andras

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List Member BDD <BrentDeck@compuserve.com> wrote:
Does anyone have an example of a program to retrieve email?

Thanks

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'
'  ddoc_map.bas
'
'  Microsoft MAPI declarations and wrapper functions for 32-bit PowerBASIC
'  PB/DLL 5 and PB/CC
'
'  Written by Don Dickinson - ddickinson@basicguru.com
'
'  HISTORY
'  --------------------------------------------------------
'  July, 1998        Initial release, has support only for
'                    the MAPISendDocuments Wrapper ...
'                    > mapiInit
'                    > mapiCleanup
'                    > mapiMailFile
'
'  Dec, 1998         Added Simple MAPI Wrappers ...
'                    > smapiLogon
'                    > smapiLogoff
'                    > smapiSendMail
'
'  --------------------------------------------------------
'
'  Hereby Public Domain. Deemed reliable, but use at your own risk, etc.
'  Do with it as you will, provided you hold the author harmless
'  from all effects and side-effects of using this code.
'
'===========================================================================
==

'
'  Debug Constants
'===========================================================================
==
%DEBUG_MAPI_PBCC        = 0
%TEST_MAPI_WITH_PBCC    = 1

'
'  MAPI Constants
'===========================================================================
==
%MAPI_LOGON_UI          = &H1
%MAPI_NEW_SESSION       = &H2
%MAPI_DIALOG            = &H8
%MAPI_UNREAD_ONLY       = &H20
%MAPI_ENVELOPE_ONLY     = &H40
%MAPI_PEEK              = &H80
%MAPI_GUARANTEE_FIFO    = &H100
%MAPI_BODY_AS_FILE      = &H200
%MAPI_AB_NOMODIFY       = &H400
%MAPI_SUPPRESS_ATTACH   = &H800
%MAPI_FORCE_DOWNLOAD    = &H1000

%MAPI_USE_DEFAULT       = &H40

%MAPI_ORIG  = 0
%MAPI_TO    = 1
%MAPI_CC    = 2
%MAPI_BCC   = 3

%MAPI_OLE         = &H1
%MAPI_OLE_STATIC  = &H2

'
'  MAPI Structures
'===========================================================================
==
Type MAPIRECIP
   iReserved As Long
   iRecipClass As Long
   lpszName As Asciiz Ptr
   lpszAddress As Asciiz Ptr
   iEIDSize As Long
   lpEntryID As Dword
End Type

Type MAPIFILEDESC
   iReserved As Long
   iFlags As Long
   iPosition As Long
   lpszPathName As Asciiz Ptr
   lpszFileName As Asciiz Ptr
   lpFileType As Dword
End Type

Type MAPIMESSAGE
   iReserved As Long
   lpszSubject As Asciiz Ptr
   lpszNoteText As Asciiz Ptr
   lpszMessageType As Asciiz Ptr
   lpszDateReceived As Asciiz Ptr
   lpszConversationID As Asciiz Ptr
   iFlags As Long
   lpOriginator As MAPIRECIP Ptr
   iRecipCount As Long
   lpRecips As MAPIRECIP Ptr
   iFileCount As Long
   lpFiles As MAPIFILEDESC Ptr
End Type

'
'  Globals
'===========================================================================
==
Global gMAPILib As Long
Global gFiles() As MAPIFILEDESC
Global gRecip() As MAPIRECIP

'
'  Function Prototypes
'===========================================================================
==
Declare Sub testmapi()
Declare Sub mapiCleanup()
Declare Function mapiInit() As Long
Declare Function mapiMailFile(sFileNames As String, sFilePaths As String) As
Long
Declare Function smapiLogon(sAccount As String, sPassword As String) As Long
Declare Sub smapiLogoff(iSession As Long)
Declare Function smapiSendMail( iSession As Long, Subject$, Note$, _
                        Addresses$, Names$, Files$, iShowDialog As Long) As
Long



'- The template declaration is necessary to tell power basic how
'  to call the function since the dll is loaded into memory at run-time.
'  Here is the actual api declaration ...
'
'  Declare Function MAPISendDocuments lib "mapi32.dll" _
'         Alias "MAPISendDocuments" (ByVal ulParam As Dword, _
'         zDelimChar As Asciiz, zFilePaths As Asciiz, zFileNames As Asciiz,
_
'         ByVal ulReserved As Dword ) As Dword
'
Declare Function mapiTemplate_MAPISendDocuments(  ByVal hWnd As Long, _
                                    zDelim As Asciiz, _
                                    zFilePaths As Asciiz, _
                                    zFileNames As Asciiz, _
                                    ByVal dwReserved As Dword ) As Dword

Declare Function mapiTemplate_MAPISendMail(  ByVal iSession As Long, _
                                    ByVal iParam As Dword, _
                                    lpMapiMessage As Any, _
                                    ByVal iFlags As Long, _
                                    ByVal iReserved As Long ) As Long

Declare Function mapiTemplate_MAPILogon(  ByVal iParam As Long, _
                                    zName As Asciiz, zPW As Asciiz, _
                                    ByVal iFlags As Long, _
                                    ByVal iReserved As Long, _
                                    iSession As Long ) As Long

Declare Function mapiTemplate_MAPILogoff( ByVal iSession As Long, _
                                    ByVal iParam As Long, _
                                    ByVal iFlags As Long, _
                                    ByVal iReserved As Long )  As Long


$If %TEST_MAPI_WITH_PBCC
$Include "win32api.inc"

Function PbMain
   testmapi
End Function

'
'  testmapi
'===========================================================================
=
Sub testmapi()

   Dim hSession As Long
   Dim iReturn As Long
   Dim Names$, Addresses$, Files$

   mapiInit

   '- To use smapiSendMail, we must first get a
   '  session handle. When done, we log off
   '  the session with smapiLogoff. If you pass
   '  "", "" MS Mail will prompt you for the
   '  mail profile to use.
   '
   '     e.g.
   '     hSession = smapiLogon("", "")
   '
   hSession = smapiLogon("Microsoft Outlook", "")

   If hSession Then

      Print "Session handle =" + Str$(hSession)

      '- Provide the list of names, addresses, and attachents
      '  Note that addresses are OPTIONAL, If you are part of an MS Mail
      '  post office, you can send mail to others in that post office,
      '  or to people already in your address book, by simply referring
      '  to them by name. For example, if I want to send Dave, Troy, and Tim
      '  interoffice, MS Mail email, I can do this ...
      '  Addresses$ = ""
      '  Names$ = "Dave;Troy;Tim"
      '
      '  If you're sending to someone whose alias is not in your address
book,
      '  you need to specify both Names and Addresses. If the address is
      '  an internet address, you also need to indicate the transport for
      '  the email by putting it in front of the address and following it
      '  with a semi-colon. E.G. I have the internet mail service installed,
      '  so I precede addresses with SMTP: to tell ms mail to deliver via
the
      '  internet.
      '
      Names$ = "Don's Fax at the Office"
      Addresses$ = "FAX:Don's Office@835-3866"

      '  Files are optional. If you want to attach things to the email,
      '  then list the files separated by ;'s. If you don't want
      '  files, just pass ""
      '
      'Files$ =
"c:\code\winsock\test.txt;c:\code\winsock\test.bas;c:\code\winsock\test.fil"
      Files$ = "c:\code\ddoc\sample.ddc"

      '- Send the mail
      iReturn = smapiSendMail( hSession, "Test Email2", "This is a test mapi
email", _
                               Addresses$, Names$, Files$, %True)


      If iReturn = 0 Then
         Print "Message Sent"
      Else
         Print "smapiSendMail failure error =" + Str$(iReturn)
      End If

      smapiLogoff hSession
   Else

      '- This can happen if you specify an invalid account name or
      '  the user hits the cancel button when prompted for
      '  a mail profile.
      '
      Print "Unable to obtain mapi session handle"
   End If
   mapiCleanup

End Sub
$EndIf

'
'  mapiMailFile
'
'  Sends a file or list of files. Prompts the user for futher inforamtion
'  via a common mapi send mail interface. This always displays a dialog.
'  It also logs on and off for you, so you don't need to call the logon
'  or initialization functions. If you want to send mail without the
'  logon screen, you should use smapiSendMail instead.
'===========================================================================
==
Function mapiMailFile(sFileNames As String, sFilePaths As String) As Long

   Dim iLoadedMAPIHere As Integer
   Dim zFileNames As Asciiz * 1024
   Dim zFilePaths As Asciiz * 1024
   Dim ptrMAPISendDocs As Dword


   zFileNames = sFileNames
   zFilePaths = sFilePaths

   '- If mapi wasn't loaded initially, we load it
   '  in this routine. If it's loaded in this routine,
   '  then we will also unload it before returning. This
   '  allows the programmer to initialize the mapi dll
   '  themselves and it will stay in memory until manually
   '  removing it with mapiCleanup. Otherwise, this function
   '  can also be self contained and initialize and cleanup
   '  after itself automatically.
   '
   iLoadedMAPIHere = %False
   If gMAPILib = 0 Then
      iLoadedMAPIHere = %True
      mapiInit
   End If

   If gMAPILib Then
      ptrMAPISendDocs = GetProcAddress(gMAPILib, "MAPISendDocuments")
      If ptrMAPISendDocs Then
         Call Dword ptrMAPISendDocs Using mapiTemplate_MAPISendDocuments(0,
";", zFilePaths, zFileNames, 0)
      End If

      If iLoadedMAPIHere Then
         mapiCleanup
      End If
   Else
      'Print "Couldn't find MAPI function"
   End If

End Function

'
'  mapiInit
'
'  Call to load the mapi dll into memory. Returns
'  %True if successful, %False if it fails. It also
'  sets the Global gMAPIInit variable to be %True
'  on success.
'===========================================================================
==
Function mapiInit() As Long

   If gMAPILib = 0 Then
      gMAPILib = LoadLibrary("mapi32.dll")
      If gMAPILib = 0 Then
         Function = %False
      Else
         Function = %True
      End If
   Else
      Function = %True
   End If

End Function

'
'  mapiCleanup
'
'  Call to release the mapi dll's
'===========================================================================
==
Sub mapiCleanup()

   If gMAPILib Then
      FreeLibrary gMAPILib
      gMAPILib = 0
   End If

End Sub

'
'  smapiLogon()
'
'  Simple Mapi Logon Wrapper Function
'  Returns a Session ID or Zero on failure
'  If you pass a blank account, it will prompt you for
'  mapi logon. If you pass it a valid MAPI user id / password, it
'  will logon without a login box.
'===========================================================================
==
Function smapiLogon(sAccount As String, sPassword As String) As Long

   Dim hSession As Long
   Dim ptrMAPILogon As Dword
   Dim zAccount As Asciiz * 200
   Dim zPW As Asciiz * 200

   zAccount = Trim$(sAccount)
   zPW = Trim$(sPassword)

   '- Get MAPI DLL in memory if not already there. It is up to the
programmer
   '  to call mapiCleanup to free the stuff loaded by mapiInit. I suggest
   '  calling mapiInit yourself when your program starts and then
mapiCleanup
   '  when it exits.
   '
   If mapiInit() = %True Then

      '- Get the procedure's address
      ptrMAPILogon = GetProcAddress(gMAPILib, "MAPILogon")
      If ptrMAPILogon Then

         '- Now that stuff is done, we logon to obtain a mapi session.
         Call Dword ptrMAPILogon Using mapiTemplate_MAPILogon( 0, zAccount,
zPW, %MAPI_LOGON_UI, 0, hSession )
         Function = hSession
      Else

         '- Couldn't find the procedure's address. Put error handling code
here.
         'Print "Couldn't get address"
         Function = 0
      End If
   Else

      '- Couldn't get the dll (mapi32.dll) in memory. Put error handling
code here.
      Function = 0
      'Print "Couldn't Load mapi32.dll"
   End If

End Function

'
'  smapiLogoff
'
'  Simple MAPI Logoff Function Wrapper
'  Takes a session ID and logs off of mapi
'===========================================================================
==
Sub smapiLogoff(iSession As Long)

   Dim ptrMAPILogoff As Dword

   If gMAPILib <> 0 Then
      ptrMAPILogoff = GetProcAddress(gMAPILib, "MAPILogoff")
      If ptrMAPILogoff Then
         Call Dword ptrMAPILogoff Using mapiTemplate_MAPILogoff( iSession,
0, 0, 0 )
      End If
   End If

End Sub

'
'  smapiSendMail
'
'  This function sends mail without a dialog to the given list of recipients
'  and attaches the given list of files.
'
'  The parameters are many, so I'll describe them ...
'
'  iSession    =  the session id as returned by smapiLogon
'  Subject$    =  subject of the email
'  Note$       =  email text
'  Addresses$  =  A list of email addresses separated by ;'s Make sure to
'                 put in the message type preceded by a : if it's not
'                 being delivered to an MS Mail post office. For example, if
'                 you're sending mail out to the internet via MS Mail, the
'                 mail type is SMTP. You will need to preceed the address
'                 with SMTP:
'                    e.g.
"SMTP:ddickinson@usinternet.com;SMTP:ddickinson@compuserve.com"
'  Names$      =  A list of ; delimited names that correspond to the
addresses above.
'                    e.g. "Don on US Internet; Don's Compuserve Account"
'  Files$      =  A list of ; delimited file names (full drive letter, file
'                 path and file name must be included). If the file doesn't
exist
'                 (Dir$(FileName) = "") then it will be ignored.
'
'===========================================================================
==
Function smapiSendMail( iSession As Long, Subject$, Note$, _
                        Addresses$, Names$, Files$, iShowDialog As Long) As
Long

   Dim i As Long, iReturn As Long
   Dim iNumFiles As Long, iNum As Long
   Dim iNumRecips As Long
   Dim ptrMAPISendMail As Dword
   Dim rMessage As MAPIMESSAGE
   Dim zSubject As Asciiz * 1000
   Dim zNote As Asciiz * 32768
   Dim zTimeStamp As Asciiz * 50
   Dim zFiles() As Asciiz * 300
   Dim zAddr() As Asciiz * 300
   Dim zNames() As Asciiz * 300

   zSubject = Trim$(Subject$)
   zNote = Trim$(Note$) + Chr$(13) + Chr$(10) + Space$(iNumFiles)
   zTimeStamp = Date$ + " " + Time$

   ptrMAPISendMail = GetProcAddress(gMAPILib, "MAPISendMail")
   If ptrMAPISendMail Then

      '- Create array of addresses
      If Trim$(Names$) = "" Then
         iNumRecips = 0
      Else
         iNumRecips = ParseCount(Names$, ";")
      End If

      ReDim zAddr(0 To iNumRecips) As Asciiz * 300
      ReDim zNames(0 To iNumRecips) As Asciiz * 300
      ReDim gRecip(0 To iNumRecips)

      '- Fill the address information
      $If %DEBUG_MAPI_PBCC
      Print Format$(iNumRecips) + " recipients"
      $EndIf
      If iNumRecips > 0 Then
         For i = 1 To iNumRecips
            zNames(i) = Parse$(Names$, ";", i)
            zAddr(i) = Parse$(Addresses$, ";", i)
            $If %DEBUG_MAPI_PBCC
            Print zNames(i), zAddr(i)
            $EndIf
            gRecip(i).iReserved = 0
            gRecip(i).iRecipClass = %MAPI_TO
            gRecip(i).lpszName = VarPtr(zNames(i))
            gRecip(i).lpszAddress = VarPtr(zAddr(i))
            gRecip(i).iEIDSize = 0
            gRecip(i).lpEntryID = 0
         Next i
      End If

      '- Create the array of files
      If Trim$(Files$) = "" Then
         iNumFiles = 0
      Else
         iNumFiles = ParseCount(Files$, ";")
      End If
      ReDim zFiles(0 To iNumFiles) As Asciiz * 300

      '- Fill in the file information
      $If %DEBUG_MAPI_PBCC
      Print
      Print Format$(iNumFiles) + " attachments"
      $EndIf
      ReDim gFiles(0 To iNumFiles)
      i = 0
      iNum = 0
      For i = 1 To iNumFiles
         zFiles(i) = Parse$(Files$, ";", i)
         $If %DEBUG_MAPI_PBCC
         Print zFiles(i)
         $EndIf

         If Dir$(zFiles(i)) <> "" Then
           iNum = iNum + 1
           gFiles(iNum).iReserved = 0
           gFiles(iNum).iFlags = 0
           gFiles(iNum).iPosition = Len(zNote) - 1 - (iNumFiles - i)
           gFiles(iNum).lpszPathName = VarPtr(zFiles(i))
           gFiles(iNum).lpszFileName = 0
           gFiles(iNum).lpFileType = 0
         End If

      Next i
      iNumFiles = iNum

      '- Fill the message structure for passing to the MAPI call.
      rMessage.iReserved = 0
      rMessage.lpszSubject = VarPtr(zSubject)
      rMessage.lpszNoteText = VarPtr(zNote)
      rMessage.lpszMessageType = 0
      rMessage.lpszDateReceived = VarPtr(zTimeStamp)
      rMessage.lpszConversationID = 0
      rMessage.iFlags = 0
      rMessage.lpOriginator = 0
      rMessage.iRecipCount = iNumRecips
      If iNumRecips > 0 Then
         rMessage.lpRecips = VarPtr(gRecip(1))
      Else
         rMessage.lpRecips = 0
      End If

      rMessage.iFileCount = iNumFiles
      If iNumFiles > 0 Then
         rMessage.lpFiles = VarPtr(gFiles(1))
      Else
         rMessage.lpFiles = 0
      End If

      '- Make the call.
      If iShowDialog Then
         Call Dword ptrMAPISendMail Using
apiTemplate_MAPISendMail( iSession, 0 , rMessage, %MAPI_LOGON_UI Or
%MAPI_DIALOG, 0 ) To iReturn
      Else
         Call Dword ptrMAPISendMail Using
apiTemplate_MAPISendMail( iSession, 0 , rMessage, %MAPI_LOGON_UI, 0 ) To
iReturn
      End If

   End If

   Function = iReturn

End Function






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Subject: [gfabasic] email processor


List Member BDD <BrentDeck@compuserve.com> wrote:
Does anyone have an example of a program to retrieve email?

Thanks

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Hi.

I wrote function which checked if printer is ready.

OPENW #1,0,0,_X,_Y,-1
LET printer_ready=3D@is_printer_ready
PRINT printer_ready                                               // if =
1 - Printer is ready.
KEYGET a%
CLOSEW #1
'
FUNCTION is_printer_ready
  LOCAL AH|
  ~INTR($17,_AH =3D 2,_DX =3D 0)
  AH| =3D _AH
  IF BTST(AH|,7) =3D FALSE THEN
    IF AH| <> 16 AND AH| <> 80 THEN
      RETURN 0  // Printer not ready
    ENDIF
  ENDIF
  RETURN 1  // printer ready
ENDFUNC
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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" size=3D2>Hi.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" size=3D2>I wrote function which checked if =
printer is=20
ready.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" size=3D2>OPENW #1,0,0,_X,_Y,-1</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" size=3D2>LET=20
printer_ready=3D@is_printer_ready</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" size=3D2>PRINT=20
printer_ready&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; // if 1 - =
Printer=20
is ready.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" size=3D2>KEYGET a%</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" size=3D2>CLOSEW #1</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" size=3D2>'</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" size=3D2>FUNCTION =
is_printer_ready<BR>&nbsp; LOCAL=20
AH|<BR>&nbsp; ~INTR($17,_AH =3D 2,_DX =3D 0)<BR>&nbsp; AH| =3D =
_AH<BR>&nbsp; IF=20
BTST(AH|,7) =3D FALSE THEN<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; IF AH| &lt;&gt; 16 AND =
AH|=20
&lt;&gt; 80 THEN<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; RETURN 0&nbsp;=20
//&nbsp;Printer not ready<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; ENDIF<BR>&nbsp; =
ENDIF<BR>&nbsp;=20
RETURN 1&nbsp; //&nbsp;printer ready<BR>ENDFUNC</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" size=3D2>'</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" size=3D2>Peter</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" size=3D2>e-mail: <A=20
href=3D"mailto:42810730@pro.onet.pl">42810730@pro.onet.pl</A></FONT></DIV=
>
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List Member BDD <BrentDeck@compuserve.com> wrote:
Might I suggest that it is poor etiquette to use any format
other than pure ascii text for an email message.

It seems half the messages posted to this list now have no text in them a=
t
all,
but instead send the entire message as an attached file, even if it is ju=
st
html.

Please,

HTML, WORD, and PDF are not email.

ASCII TEXT is email.

Sorry for the rant, but I dont use a browser that automatically opens
attached files.
When a message comes in that has no text in the message body, =

I trash it without even reading it.

Brent

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Subject: Re: [gfabasic] email processor
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>>>>>

'  Function Prototypes
'=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
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=3D
=3D=3D
Declare Sub testmapi()
Declare Sub mapiCleanup()
Declare Function mapiInit() As Long
Declare Function mapiMailFile(sFileNames As String, sFilePaths As String)=

As
Long
Declare Function smapiLogon(sAccount As String, sPassword As String) As
Long
Declare Sub smapiLogoff(iSession As Long)
Declare Function smapiSendMail( iSession As Long, Subject$, Note$, _
                        Addresses$, Names$, Files$, iShowDialog As Long) =
As
Long

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Hi Dale,

Thanks for the post.

Looks very useful for sending email.

Unfortunately this one does not appear to have ability to downdload email=
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Got any others?

Thanks,

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Well said.
http://gfawhelp.gfa.net
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List Member BDD <BrentDeck@compuserve.com> wrote:
Might I suggest that it is poor etiquette to use any format
other than pure ascii text for an email message.

It seems half the messages posted to this list now have no text in them at
all,
but instead send the entire message as an attached file, even if it is just
html.

Please,

HTML, WORD, and PDF are not email.

ASCII TEXT is email.

Sorry for the rant, but I dont use a browser that automatically opens
attached files.
When a message comes in that has no text in the message body,
I trash it without even reading it.

Brent


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Hi Brent,
I will look  on the web and see if I can find one.
Dale

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List Member BDD <BrentDeck@compuserve.com> wrote:
>>>>>

'  Function Prototypes
'==========================================================================
=
==
Declare Sub testmapi()
Declare Sub mapiCleanup()
Declare Function mapiInit() As Long
Declare Function mapiMailFile(sFileNames As String, sFilePaths As String)
As
Long
Declare Function smapiLogon(sAccount As String, sPassword As String) As
Long
Declare Sub smapiLogoff(iSession As Long)
Declare Function smapiSendMail( iSession As Long, Subject$, Note$, _
                        Addresses$, Names$, Files$, iShowDialog As Long) As
Long

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Hi Dale,

Thanks for the post.

Looks very useful for sending email.

Unfortunately this one does not appear to have ability to downdload email.

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Well... try this...

To hide:
  hSysTray& =3D FindWindow("Shell_TrayWnd",NULL)
  ~ShowWindow(hSysTray&,SW_HIDE)

To show it again:
  hSysTray& =3D FindWindow("Shell_TrayWnd",NULL)
  ~ShowWindow(hSysTray&,SW_SHOW)

(guess what... <G>)

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Well... try this...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>To hide:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp; hSysTray&amp; =3D=20
FindWindow("Shell_TrayWnd",NULL)<BR>&nbsp;=20
~ShowWindow(hSysTray&amp;,SW_HIDE)<BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>To show it again:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp; hSysTray&amp; =3D=20
FindWindow("Shell_TrayWnd",NULL)<BR>&nbsp;=20
~ShowWindow(hSysTray&amp;,SW_SHOW)<BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>(guess what... &lt;G&gt;)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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List Member "Bev & Lou Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
Morning:

I've always found that this works well ...

IF @printer_check
  DEFMOUSE 2
  OPEN "o",#2,"LPT1
  ...
  CLOSE #2
  DEFMOUSE 2
ELSE
  BEEP
  ? "Printer NOT ready!!!"
ENDIF

FUNCTION printer_check
  LOCAL i
  DO
    ~INTR($17,_AH =3D 2,_DX =3D i)
    EXIT IF BTST(_AH,4)
    i ++
  LOOP UNTIL i > 2
  ~INTR($17,_AH =3D 2,_DX =3D i)
  RETURN BTST(_AH,7)
ENDFUNC
'

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Sent: Saturday, August 28, 1999 4:41 AM
Subject: [gfabasic] Check Printer


Hi.

I wrote function which checked if printer is ready.

OPENW #1,0,0,_X,_Y,-1
LET printer_ready=3D@is_printer_ready
PRINT printer_ready                                               // if 1=
 -
Printer is ready.
KEYGET a%
CLOSEW #1
'
FUNCTION is_printer_ready
  LOCAL AH|
  ~INTR($17,_AH =3D 2,_DX =3D 0)
  AH| =3D _AH
  IF BTST(AH|,7) =3D FALSE THEN
    IF AH| <> 16 AND AH| <> 80 THEN
      RETURN 0  // Printer not ready
    ENDIF
  ENDIF
  RETURN 1  // printer ready
ENDFUNC
'

Peter

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Subject: [gfabasic] Fw: Check Printer
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Subject: Re: [gfabasic] Check Printer


> List Member "Bev & Lou Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
> Morning:
>
> I've always found that this works well ...
>
> IF @printer_check
>   DEFMOUSE 2
>   OPEN "o",#2,"LPT1
>   ...
>   CLOSE #2
>   DEFMOUSE 2
> ELSE
>   BEEP
>   ? "Printer NOT ready!!!"
> ENDIF
>
> FUNCTION printer_check
>   LOCAL i
>   DO
>     ~INTR($17,_AH = 2,_DX = i)
>     EXIT IF BTST(_AH,4)
>     i ++
>   LOOP UNTIL i > 2
>   ~INTR($17,_AH = 2,_DX = i)
>   RETURN BTST(_AH,7)
> ENDFUNC
> '
>
>                     ->Bev<--
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Micha? Sejfried
> To: gfabasic@gfa.net
> Sent: Saturday, August 28, 1999 4:41 AM
> Subject: [gfabasic] Check Printer
>
>
> Hi.
>
> I wrote function which checked if printer is ready.
>
> OPENW #1,0,0,_X,_Y,-1
> LET printer_ready=@is_printer_ready
> PRINT printer_ready                                               // if
1 -
> Printer is ready.
> KEYGET a%
> CLOSEW #1
> '
> FUNCTION is_printer_ready
>   LOCAL AH|
>   ~INTR($17,_AH = 2,_DX = 0)
>   AH| = _AH
>   IF BTST(AH|,7) = FALSE THEN
>     IF AH| <> 16 AND AH| <> 80 THEN
>       RETURN 0  // Printer not ready
>     ENDIF
>   ENDIF
>   RETURN 1  // printer ready
> ENDFUNC
> '
>
> Peter
>
> e-mail: 42810730@pro.onet.pl
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List Member Michael Weigand <michael-weigand@foni.net> wrote:
Hi!

I bought the 16 bit version of GFA-Basic two years ago, because I was told
that the 32 bit version will be released early 1998. If I had known that I
would have to wait two or more years I definitely would have chosen VB or
Delphi instead...

So, does anybody know when the 32 bit version will be released?


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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
I  understand it is right around the corner!
Subject: [gfabasic] GfAWin32 ?


> List Member Michael Weigand <michael-weigand@foni.net> wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I bought the 16 bit version of GFA-Basic two years ago, because I was told
> that the 32 bit version will be released early 1998. If I had known that I
> would have to wait two or more years I definitely would have chosen VB or
> Delphi instead...
>
> So, does anybody know when the 32 bit version will be released?
>
>
> M!chael
>
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>List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
>> List Member Michael Weigand <michael-weigand@foni.net> wrote:

I think it's time to get started on GfAWin64's anticipation.
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List Member "RMC" <softprod@hartingdale.com.au> wrote:
Hi Tom,

Have we given up on GFA Win32?


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I thought you were moving and was unavailable!
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> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
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> >> List Member Michael Weigand <michael-weigand@foni.net> wrote:
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
I got a message from Tom that he was moving so he may be down for a few
days.
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> List Member "RMC" <softprod@hartingdale.com.au> wrote:
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> Have we given up on GFA Win32?
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Hi, Reuben
No - just bein snide, I guess <G>.  Kinda same song, next verse w/
another Windows Basic.  Author waited for the users to discover what
it can/can't do before making any improvements.  *His* promised 32-bit
is 3 yrs late & probably not even actually on the drawing board yet.

I'm stuck w/ 16-bit (aw, Jeeze!) for two reasons... many of my target
users are on 286/386 computers & I sincerely doubt upgrading to 32-bit
is going to be cheap.  I've invested all that I can afford & am still 
unable to do all that I want.

I'm working on a translator & it takes about 5 min to scan a 3M+ db
in the interactive mode & I can't even imagine pushing it to auto.
I have a $160 comm'l translator that's absolutely unsupported (what
isn't these days?) that takes 30 min to translate a 1K doc.  Have
found a $30US translator that translates a 15K doc in about 3.5 sec.
*It's* major problem is a very limited vocabulary.  The one I've been
working out is about 114K words & phrases Ger/Eng, less than 1/3 that 
in 3 or 4 other languages.  I'm beginning to think it's time to abandon it.

<G>
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Dale, I'm just unbearable <G>.  Gotta keep watchin for anything I
can use, right?  Still have 4 days' worth of moving to do & only 1
more day to do it in.  Thermometer on one cabinet indicated 118=B0F
in the back of my pickup this afternoon.  I don't do *anything* well
at that temp!
<G>
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Dale
Am about half-a___d back online.  The move isn't finished, but... !
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At 03:50 PM 29/08/99 -0700, you wrote:
>List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
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>> Have we given up on GFA Win32?
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>> Reuben
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List Member jerry allen <jaln@sprintmail.com> wrote:
Thanks for your reply. Doesn't work however.
I have been using the following driver, free from SST software:
http://www.sstnet.com/dnload/dnload.htm
See drivers for 95/NT.
Good link to add to info, Dale.

Andras Szalay wrote:

> List Member "Andras Szalay" <a.szalay@mail.matav.hu> wrote:
> >> Does anyone have info on a low level routine in .dll form or whatever to
> >> read/write the printer port data, status and control registers in NT or 95
> >> using GFAW?
>
> Jerry,
>
> the simplest (quick and dirty) way to do that is directly accessing the
> port addresses (data=$378, status=$379, control=$37A), e.g.
>
> dport& = $378  // address of the printer port
> OUT PORT(dport&),$55
>
> sets the data port to $55.
>
> I am sure that the WINDOWS gurus will cry by seeing that, but I use this
> method very extensively for communicating with audio DSP development
> boards and I never had any problem with that under W95. I do not know NT.
> If you need the locations of the individual bits in the registers / connectors
> I can send you.
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I have had a lot of trouble running some of the Win32 routines.
My NT setup always returns $30A and the "not Win95 or NT" message.
On further investigation at Microsoft, I learned it was better to check with
GetWinFlags() on NT  looking for $4000 as follows:

(from Souke's GFAPI32.GFA which gets compiled to GFAPI32.DLL
PROCEDURE LibMain(hInst&,DSeg&,HpSz&,lpCmd%)

  /' old line LET WINVER% = LOWORD(GetVersion())
  /' old line LET WINVER% = LOBYTE(WINVER%) << 8 | HIBYTE(WINVER%)

 /'old line IF WINVER% > $030A

 IF GetWinFlags() & $4000 =$4000   /'new line--means running under WOW in NT
    RETVAL @WOWInit()
  ELSE
    ~MessageBox(0,"Not Windows 95/NT","GFA32API.DLL",MB_ICONSTOP | MB_OK)
    RETVAL 0
  ENDIF

RETURN

I will repost entire modified file later for both NT/95, unless someone else
does it first.
There are a number of GFA Win32 demos which need this change to run correctly on
NT.
There are also some demos which refer to /system/ as the place to store .dll's
which need to be changed to /system32/ for NT.
More later. Late for work.

Reference from Microsoft:
Determining System Version from a
   Windows-Based Application

   3.10 WINDOWS

   The information in this article applies to:

        Microsoft Windows Software Development Kit (SDK), version 3.1

   SUMMARY

   To create a Windows-based application that takes advantage of the
features of each platform, it is necessary to
   determine what operating system the application is currently running
with.

   The GetVersion() function can be used to determine what operating
system and version is currently being used. A
   16-bit Windows-based application might be running with Microsoft
MS-DOS/Microsoft Windows, Microsoft Windows NT
   Workstation, Microsoft Windows NT Server, or Microsoft Windows 95.
Windows on Win32 (WOW) is the term given for
   the operating environment when running a 16-bit Windows-based
application with Microsoft Windows NT Workstation
   or Microsoft Windows NT Server.

   MORE INFORMATION
   According to the documentation, the return value of the GetVersion()
function is a DWORD that specifies the major
   and minor version numbers. The following table shows the return
values from the GetVersion() function when used
   with various operating environments:

      Environment   LOWORD                 HIWORD
      -------------------------------------------------------
      Windows 3.x   Windows version        MS-DOS version
      WFW           Windows version 3.1    MS-DOS version
      WOW           Windows version 3.1    MS-DOS version 5.0
      Windows 95    Windows version 3.95   MS-DOS version 7.0

   Microsoft Windows operating system version 3.1 and WOW can return the
same results. Therefore, 16-bit
   Windows-based applications may want to use the GetWinFlags() function
to determine whether the application is
   being run with Microsoft Windows or WOW. The GetWinFlags() function
returns a WF_WINNT flag if the application is
   running with WOW.

   GetWinFlags() is an existing function that has been modified to
detect other platforms. To test for Microsoft Windows
   NT, add the following flag to your header file and use it to perform
the test:

      #define WF_WINNT         0x4000



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I have had a lot of trouble running some of the Win32 routines.
<br>My NT setup always returns $30A and the "not Win95 or NT" message.
<br>On further investigation at Microsoft, I learned it was better to check
with
<br>GetWinFlags() on NT&nbsp; looking for $4000 as follows:
<p>(from Souke's GFAPI32.GFA which gets compiled to GFAPI32.DLL
<br>PROCEDURE LibMain(hInst&amp;,DSeg&amp;,HpSz&amp;,lpCmd%)
<p>&nbsp; /' old line LET WINVER% = LOWORD(GetVersion())
<br>&nbsp; /' old line LET WINVER% = LOBYTE(WINVER%) &lt;&lt; 8 | HIBYTE(WINVER%)
<p>&nbsp;/'old line IF WINVER% > $030A
<p>&nbsp;IF GetWinFlags() &amp; $4000 =$4000&nbsp;&nbsp; /'new line--means
running under WOW in NT
<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; RETVAL @WOWInit()
<br>&nbsp; ELSE
<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; ~MessageBox(0,"Not Windows 95/NT","GFA32API.DLL",MB_ICONSTOP
| MB_OK)
<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; RETVAL 0
<br>&nbsp; ENDIF
<p>RETURN
<p>I will repost entire modified file later for both NT/95, unless someone
else does it first.
<br>There are a number of GFA Win32 demos which need this change to run
correctly on NT.
<br>There are also some demos which refer to /system/ as the place to store
.dll's which need to be changed to /system32/ for NT.
<br>More later. Late for work.
<p>Reference from Microsoft:
<br><i>Determining System Version from a</i>
<br><i>&nbsp;&nbsp; Windows-Based Application</i><i></i>
<p><i>&nbsp;&nbsp; 3.10 WINDOWS</i><i></i>
<p><i>&nbsp;&nbsp; The information in this article applies to:</i><i></i>
<p><i>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Microsoft Windows Software
Development Kit (SDK), version 3.1</i><i></i>
<p><i>&nbsp;&nbsp; SUMMARY</i><i></i>
<p><i>&nbsp;&nbsp; To create a Windows-based application that takes advantage
of the</i>
<br><i>features of each platform, it is necessary to</i>
<br><i>&nbsp;&nbsp; determine what operating system the application is
currently running</i>
<br><i>with.</i><i></i>
<p><i>&nbsp;&nbsp; The GetVersion() function can be used to determine what
operating</i>
<br><i>system and version is currently being used. A</i>
<br><i>&nbsp;&nbsp; 16-bit Windows-based application might be running with
Microsoft</i>
<br><i>MS-DOS/Microsoft Windows, Microsoft Windows NT</i>
<br><i>&nbsp;&nbsp; Workstation, Microsoft Windows NT Server, or Microsoft
Windows 95.</i>
<br><i>Windows on Win32 (WOW) is the term given for</i>
<br><i>&nbsp;&nbsp; the operating environment when running a 16-bit Windows-based</i>
<br><i>application with Microsoft Windows NT Workstation</i>
<br><i>&nbsp;&nbsp; or Microsoft Windows NT Server.</i><i></i>
<p><i>&nbsp;&nbsp; MORE INFORMATION</i>
<br><i>&nbsp;&nbsp; According to the documentation, the return value of
the GetVersion()</i>
<br><i>function is a DWORD that specifies the major</i>
<br><i>&nbsp;&nbsp; and minor version numbers. The following table shows
the return</i>
<br><i>values from the GetVersion() function when used</i>
<br><i>&nbsp;&nbsp; with various operating environments:</i><i></i>
<p><i>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Environment&nbsp;&nbsp; LOWORD&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
HIWORD</i>
<br><i>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; -------------------------------------------------------</i>
<br><i>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Windows 3.x&nbsp;&nbsp; Windows version&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
MS-DOS version</i>
<br><i>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; WFW&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
Windows version 3.1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; MS-DOS version</i>
<br><i>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; WOW&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
Windows version 3.1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; MS-DOS version 5.0</i>
<br><i>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Windows 95&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Windows
version 3.95&nbsp;&nbsp; MS-DOS version 7.0</i><i></i>
<p><b>&nbsp;&nbsp; Microsoft Windows operating system version 3.1 and WOW
can return the</b>
<br><b>same results. Therefore, 16-bit</b>
<br><b>&nbsp;&nbsp; Windows-based applications may want to use the GetWinFlags()
function</b>
<br><b>to determine whether the application is</b>
<br><b>&nbsp;&nbsp; being run with Microsoft Windows or WOW. The GetWinFlags()
function</b>
<br><b>returns a WF_WINNT flag if the application is</b>
<br><b>&nbsp;&nbsp; running with WOW.</b><i></i>
<p><b>&nbsp;&nbsp; GetWinFlags() is an existing function that has been
modified to</b>
<br><b>detect other platforms. To test for Microsoft Windows</b>
<br><b>&nbsp;&nbsp; NT, add the following flag to your header file and
use it to perform</b>
<br><b>the test:</b><b></b>
<p><b>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; #define WF_WINNT&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
0x4000</b>
<br>&nbsp;
<br>&nbsp;</html>

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List Member GFA Online <service@gfa.net> wrote:
From: "Roland Walter" <roland@rowalt.de>
To: gfabasic@gfa.net
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 15:20:57 +0200
Subject: Re: IO in NT or Win95

> List Member jerry allen <jaln@sprintmail.com> wrote:
> Does anyone have info on a low level routine in .dll form or whatever to
> read/write the printer port data, status and control registers in NT or 95
> using GFAW?

You question looks as You need a fast access...
Under Windows with a 16bit program this is no problem.

The first way is to use direct port access. This is the most fast way 
but does not work under NT. Under NT there exists a special DLL 
(PORTIO.DLL???) for this task but I have never worked with.

The second way is to use the 3 Interrupt 0x17 functions. This is more 
slow than direct access but much faster than using Windows API.
At least data inpout and output should also work under NT. Try it 
out. - Information about Interrupts You will find in Ralph Brown's 
Interrupt list (You can find it with altavista, search for the 
Winhelp version).

As attachement You will find two GFA basic sample listings showing
how to do it. (Int17 and port access with automatic address 
determining)

Bye, Roland




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> the simplest (quick and dirty) way to do that is directly accessing the 
> port addresses (data=$378, status=$379, control=$37A), e.g.
> 
> dport& = $378  // address of the printer port
> OUT PORT(dport&),$55
> 
> I am sure that the WINDOWS gurus will cry by seeing that

Why?   ;-)
The Windows level 0 drivers make exactly the same. The only 
difference is that You make it in a level 3 program. O.K., in Windows 
NT this is possible in drivers only, but until Windows 95 it works.
I think it's an own fault if an engineer installs NT...

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From: "Roland Walter" <roland@rowalt.de>
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Subject: Re: [gfabasic] GfAWin32 ?

> List Member Michael Weigand <michael-weigand@foni.net> wrote:
> [...]
> So, does anybody know when the 32 bit version will be released?

GFA-Basic 32 should be ready in a very short time. The Beta test is 
nearly finished.

It's not the fault of GFA but Microsoft does not like to have rivals 
and did not (!) give the needed information. So GFA had to use the 
Windows operating system and a debugger to get the documantation...
And by the way: On this way they could see what a sloppy system
we all use ;-)
GFA alone could make a lawsuit against MS monopol I think...

A last remark: Keep in mind that 16 bit programs are mostly smaller 
and often faster then 32 bit programs. Under Windows 95 for example a 
lot of 32 bit GDI functions are calls to their 16 bit brothers only.
Try to compile an identical code for 16 bit and for 32 bit and laugh
:-))))))))
Really! 32 bit is just O.K., but only if You need to handle data 
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From: "Roland Walter" <roland@rowalt.de>
To: gfabasic@gfa.net
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 13:11:44 +0200
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> List Member BDD <BrentDeck@compuserve.com> wrote:
> Does anyone have an example of a program to retrieve email?

I have two not full finished simple to understand programs written in 
GFA Basic. Both are based on "pure" WINSOCK.DLL without need 
of Internet Explorer and so on.
I think this is whot most people need...

I would make the sources free on one condition:
The first task is to make example sources for everybody. The user
of my sources is called on completing the sources, to good 
commenting them and to publish it here in the discussion group.

Is this an acceptable offer?

Bye, Roland Walter
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From: "Roland Walter" <roland@rowalt.de>
To: gfabasic@gfa.net
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 15:20:57 +0200
Subject: Re: email etiquette


<color><param>7F00,0000,0000</param><FontFamily><param>Courier New</param>>
List Member BDD <<BrentDeck@compuserve.com>  
wrote:  

> Might I suggest that it is poor etiquette to  
use any format  

> other than pure ascii text for an email  
message.  


</color>Thank You for this advice! At this time there is 
  a wild mix  

of everythink in this list :-(  

If everybody keeps in mind TWO thinks only the  

list would be much more usable:  


1.) Use "pure" ASCII, all other use only if You  

    need it badly. For example attachements only 
 


    for binaries or long GFA sample listings.  

    Most important: Do'nt use MIME, HTML and so  

    on. Lots of the mail processors do not  

    understand this or understand a different  

    "dialect" only. The result looks terrible... 
 


    Check Your mail processor and swich out all  

    those "extensions". The result will be that  

    You can mail is readeable for everybody.  

2.) If You reply to an other message You should  

    qote only what needed to understand Your  

    answer. Do NEVER quote a complete  
message!!!!  

    When quoting use "> " at begin of every  

    quotation line.  


Nobody is perfect and most mail processors  

are not very clear arranged ... but to try ist  

is just enough to keep other people quiet,   
satisfied and happy ;-)  

Also do'nt forget, that the archived GFA list   
should be usefull as an FAQ source.  


<FontFamily><param>ARIAL</param>Bye, Roland  





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List Member Michael Weigand <michael-weigand@foni.net> wrote:
>From: "Roland Walter" <roland@rowalt.de>

>Really! 32 bit is just O.K., but only if You need to handle data 
>>64KB.

I don't need the power of 32 bit programs. My 16 bit software runs fine on
Windows 3.1 as well as on Windows 2000 Professional. But I would like to
enhance the user interface with things like long filenames, toolbars, tab
controls and so on. 

I tried several of the samples for doing this with GfA-Win16, but I often
discovered that what runs on Windows 95 will not work on Windows NT.

I don't want to create the 32 bit controls, I just want to use them. I
wasted a lot of time in the last months for this. 


M!chael
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List Member Anthony Watson <awatson@pacifier.com> wrote:
Roland,

> I have two not full finished simple to understand programs written in 
> GFA Basic. Both are based on "pure" WINSOCK.DLL without need 
> of Internet Explorer and so on.

I've been searching desparately for this kind of source code for a long
time. Everything I seem to run across requires the use of some third party
DLL or something, and doesn't show how to do low level internet access.
The few books I've heard of that describe this, are no longer in print.

So, I would love to see any example code you have!

> The first task is to make example sources for everybody. The user
> of my sources is called on completing the sources, to good 
> commenting them and to publish it here in the discussion group.

Assuming I was able to decipher the code, and learn how it does what it
does, I would be happy to share my modifications to your code.

Anthony Watson
Mountain Software
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

How about everybody posting a listing of dirs/subdirs for their
system?  Give the version data & exactly what their windows &
system dirs are called.  We could ALL benefit by such a list!

I'm running Win95a (Win95 + Service Pack 1)
windows is c:\windows\
system is c:\windows\system\

I have another dir that is in my path & *that* is where I plug in any
new *.dlls.  I purposfully do NOT put anything un-necessary in either
c:\windows\ or c:\windows\system\ - *other* idiots put plenty of trash
in them.  Some even want to install their programs in them!
<G>
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

Boy, when Roland gets started, Roland gets started!

Go for it, Roland.  keep talking!

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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Mine is the same.
Dale

http://gfawhelp.gfa.net

> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>
> How about everybody posting a listing of dirs/subdirs for their
> system?  Give the version data & exactly what their windows &
> system dirs are called.  We could ALL benefit by such a list!
>
> I'm running Win95a (Win95 + Service Pack 1)
> windows is c:\windows\
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AMEN!!!!

http://gfawhelp.gfa.net
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> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
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> Boy, when Roland gets started, Roland gets started!
>
> Go for it, Roland.  keep talking!
>
> <G>
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List Member Anthony Watson <awatson@pacifier.com> wrote:
Tom,

> windows is c:\windows\
> system is c:\windows\system\

I don't understand why you would want to know this, as the Windows
installation allows you to name the Windows directory during the install.
Regardless of what we name those directories, users may name them
something else.

In any case, you can easily determine the path to these directories using
the GetWindowsDirectory() and GetSystemDirectory() api calls.

For whatever it is worth, my system is set up as follows:

C:\WIN31   (Windows 3.11 Directory)
C:\WIN95   (Windows 95 Directory)
C:\WIN95\SYSTEM  (Windows System Directory)

Hope this helps...

Anthony Watson
Mountain Software
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
For what I'm worth, I'll do what I can to help.  Why should we
eat souflet when we can have meat & potatoes?

Joe is going to fill in the gaps on UU when he is finished w/
his move, so that will add full GFA-W capability in another
arena.  Provided what Roland has either has, or can be adapted
to handle attachments.

We're making progress, fellers!
<G>
TomR.


At 01:07 PM 30/08/99 -0700, you wrote:
>List Member Anthony Watson <awatson@pacifier.com> wrote:
>Roland,
>
>> I have two not full finished simple to understand programs written in 
>> GFA Basic. Both are based on "pure" WINSOCK.DLL without need 
>> of Internet Explorer and so on.
>
>I've been searching desparately for this kind of source code for a long
>time. Everything I seem to run across requires the use of some third party
>DLL or something, and doesn't show how to do low level internet access.
>The few books I've heard of that describe this, are no longer in print.
>
>So, I would love to see any example code you have!
>
>> The first task is to make example sources for everybody. The user
>> of my sources is called on completing the sources, to good 
>> commenting them and to publish it here in the discussion group.
>
>Assuming I was able to decipher the code, and learn how it does what it
>does, I would be happy to share my modifications to your code.
>
>Anthony Watson
>Mountain Software
>support@mountain-software.com
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Well, Anthony, without intervention Windows will install where it is
pre-set to install.  OEM installations require renaming by the user to
be anything different from what was pre-set.

The benefit?  Let's see... IF running Win95 only or Win31 only, the
built-in locater can find it.  However... what happens on a dual-boot?
A program *should* run on most Windows versions, but at any given
moment on a dual-boot, does it find the system in operation?  Or... is
it built to find c:\windows\, etc?  What happens on a Win98 system?

I run 3.1 on a 486 & 95a on this P-100.  It finds the windows & system
dirs just fine but I can't play beyond this because I'm not dual-boot
or Win98.

I've no idea how many may have renamed the windows dir to something that
isn't standard SOP, but I'm sure some have.  It'll surely mess up the
registry unless *it* is corrected to reflect the change.

Any clue to how the functions actually find the dirs?
<G>
TomR.


At 02:23 PM 30/08/99 -0700, you wrote:
>List Member Anthony Watson <awatson@pacifier.com> wrote:
>Tom,
>
>> windows is c:\windows\
>> system is c:\windows\system\
>
>I don't understand why you would want to know this, as the Windows
>installation allows you to name the Windows directory during the install.
>Regardless of what we name those directories, users may name them
>something else.
>
>In any case, you can easily determine the path to these directories using
>the GetWindowsDirectory() and GetSystemDirectory() api calls.
>
>For whatever it is worth, my system is set up as follows:
>
>C:\WIN31   (Windows 3.11 Directory)
>C:\WIN95   (Windows 95 Directory)
>C:\WIN95\SYSTEM  (Windows System Directory)
>
>Hope this helps...
>
>Anthony Watson
>Mountain Software
>support@mountain-software.com
>http://www.mountain-software.com
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List Member Anthony Watson <awatson@pacifier.com> wrote:
Tom,

> The benefit?  Let's see... IF running Win95 only or Win31 only, the
> built-in locater can find it.  However... what happens on a dual-boot?

I'm not exactly sure what you mean by "dual-boot". As I understand it,
only one version of Windows will be "running" at a time, even if you have
multiple versions installed.

Personally, I have Win3.1 installed as an MS-DOS "application" on my Win95
system. It's installed to a separate directory with a shortcut that
automatically runs the "program" in MS-DOS mode. This allows me to run
Windows 3.1 from Win95 by clicking on an icon. The computer reboots to
Win3.1 and then reboots back to Win95 when I'm done. I don't know if this
is the standard way of doing things or not, but it works well for me.

> What happens on a Win98 system?

Those api's have been around since Windows 2.0 at least, so I would think
they would still work on Win98, and probably NT as well?

> Any clue to how the functions actually find the dirs?

I don't know, but I would guess that it's stored in WIN.INI or SYSTEM.INI
under Windows 3. It may be the same in Win95, or else it would probably be
in the registry somewhere.

Take care,

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List Member jerry allen <jaln@sprintmail.com> wrote:
I used to triple boot, then dual boot, and now I only use NT. It's very stable
compared to 95. And GFAW works fine for most purposes even though large combo
boxes get slow and IO is a pain.
When triple booting , obviously you can't have two ...\windows\ subdirs on the
same partition.
NT however defaults to ..\winnt causing no conflict so I never change it.
The windows NT system directory defaults to ...\winnt\system32 which sure
renders a lot of the GFAWin32 demos inoperable even though
they state that they are for 95/NT. (Easy enough to fix). But some of the
.cpl's aren't the same. Also, that's why toolhelp.dll must be moved on an NT
system.
The functions GetSystemDirectory() and GetWindowsDirectory() always work
correctly regardless of platform, and therefore would be a possible
alternative for checking for NT. And, in any case, software can always rely on
the returned value of these two functions.
But the test I always see for NT doesn't work. But apparently it works on some
else's machine.
Hence my message about GetWinFlags() and the attached Microsoft statement.

Tom Record wrote:

> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>
> How about everybody posting a listing of dirs/subdirs for their
> system?  Give the version data & exactly what their windows &
> system dirs are called.  We could ALL benefit by such a list!
>
> I'm running Win95a (Win95 + Service Pack 1)
> windows is c:\windows\
> system is c:\windows\system\
>
> I have another dir that is in my path & *that* is where I plug in any
> new *.dlls.  I purposfully do NOT put anything un-necessary in either
> c:\windows\ or c:\windows\system\ - *other* idiots put plenty of trash
> in them.  Some even want to install their programs in them!
> <G>
> TomR.
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List Member jerry allen <jaln@sprintmail.com> wrote:
Thanks Roland.
I am working on some Amtel microcontroller and EEPROM projects and want the
speed.
I have been using DOS to program the chips. I always use either DOS or NT now.
I have also been searching the NT DDK for clues and should be able to write my
own driver soon.
There are a couple of low level drivers out there for NT/95. That's why I
submitted the link to SST software's site:
http://www.sstnet.com/dnload/dnload.htm for other NT/95/98 users--it works on
both and it is free($).
The demos in C and VB for SST's software driver never show the same results as
the interrupt routines that everyone keeps posting and I interpret that as a
problem.
I will try your suggestions anyway.
I don't know how to retrieve HARDPORT.ZIP from your message. I copied it to a
file but it wouldn't decompress. Can you submit text or a .zip file?


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> List Member GFA Online <service@gfa.net> wrote:
> From: "Roland Walter" <roland@rowalt.de>
> To: gfabasic@gfa.net
> Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 15:20:57 +0200
> Subject: Re: IO in NT or Win95
>
> > List Member jerry allen <jaln@sprintmail.com> wrote:
> > Does anyone have info on a low level routine in .dll form or whatever to
> > read/write the printer port data, status and control registers in NT or 95
> > using GFAW?
>
> You question looks as You need a fast access...
> Under Windows with a 16bit program this is no problem.
>
> ...............

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List Member Micromiser Software <miser@cde.com> wrote:
Hi Tom,

I used to put the WINDOWS dir on drive e: but encountered problems with
installing/operating some applications, e.g. Navigator. I would expect the
same problems if windows dir were named anything but WINDOWS. Here are my
current OS dirs:

Station A: C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM  (Win3.1)
Station B: C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM  (Win3.1)
Station C: C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM  (Win 95b)
Station D: E:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM  (Win3.1)
Station E: C:\DOS  <g>

Among clients, I have yet to encounter one station without WINDOWS
(3.1/95/98) installed in the C:\WINDOWS dir.

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Thank you, Steve!
It can be done on any drive, but it requires modification of several
system files.  I'll dig up their names & post.  There are also some
entries in the registry - at least for Win95 & probably Win98.

As to the dir names... I've seen c:\win95\ & c:\win98\.  As long as the
documentation reflects these, they're legitamate for the given computer.
I *believe* that the "upgrade-over" upgrades do this.
<G>
TomR.


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>List Member Micromiser Software <miser@cde.com> wrote:
>Hi Tom,
>
>I used to put the WINDOWS dir on drive e: but encountered problems with
>installing/operating some applications, e.g. Navigator. I would expect the
>same problems if windows dir were named anything but WINDOWS. Here are my
>current OS dirs:
>
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>Station C: C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM  (Win 95b)
>Station D: E:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM  (Win3.1)
>Station E: C:\DOS  <g>
>
>Among clients, I have yet to encounter one station without WINDOWS
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>
>-----
>Steve Thornton

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List Member "Roland Walter" <roland@rowalt.de> wrote:
> List Member Michael Weigand <michael-weigand@foni.net> wrote:

> [...] But I would like to
> enhance the user interface with things like long filenames, toolbars, tab
> controls and so on. 

Did You get my listing LFN_SIMP.LST ? - If You use API functions
instead of GFA file functions You must nothing more do - just use
the long filenames.
Also the new controls can be used by the 16 Windows API. You will
only have to declare them.
O.K., under NT the file select box is a problem, there You will have
to use the 32 bit GetOpenFileName. It's an NT bug I think.

Bye, Roland

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List Member "Roland Walter" <roland@rowalt.de> wrote:
> List Member Anthony Watson <awatson@pacifier.com> wrote:
> > [...] based on "pure" WINSOCK.DLL [...] 
> I've been searching desparately for this kind of source code for a long
> time.

O.K., I am glad if we can make some good GFA examples together!
As attachement You will wind a ZIP file containing my GFA example
and 3 small programms in other languages (C and Power Basic).

My program is able to retrieve the IP address and to connect a
server (may be POP3, SMTP, HTTP, FTP...).
But momently it is only able to log in a POP3 server. There it
asks how many messages are waiting and logs out.
This is just the most important and most complicated. More should
be "hand work" at most. I hope the other examples will help You
for the next time.

Bye, Roland




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From: "Roland Walter" <roland@rowalt.de>
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List Member "Roland Walter" <roland@rowalt.de> wrote:
Date sent:      	Mon, 30 Aug 1999 22:39:54 -0700
From:           	jerry allen <jaln@sprintmail.com>
To:             	gfabasic@gfa.net
Subject:        	Re: [gfabasic] Mail from Roland Walter
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> List Member jerry allen <jaln@sprintmail.com> wrote:
> I don't know how to retrieve HARDPORT.ZIP from your message.
> I copied it to a file but it wouldn't decompress. Can you submit
> text or a .zip file?

Oh, sorry. I had changed my E-mail address and so GFA had to
copy my messages "by hand" to the list. May be the attachement
was lost. I attache the file HARDPORT.ZIP a second time with
this mail.

> I am working on some Amtel microcontroller and EEPROM projects and want the
> speed. I have been using DOS to program the chips.

So I do ;-) Do You know the ATMEL chip programmer software SP12? It's
the best low-cost system I have ever seen (a DOS program with
source). You will find it here:
http://www.xs4all.nl/~sbolt/e-spider_prog.html
But momently I have to use PIC microcontrollers (I hate them) and are
writing a low-cost programmer software with GFA BAsic for Windows.

> I always use either DOS or NT now.
> I have also been searching the NT DDK for clues and should be able to write my
> own driver soon.
My tries where permanently ended with one or the other missing
header file :-(

> The demos in C and VB for SST's software driver never show the same results as
> the interrupt routines that everyone keeps posting and I interpret that as a
> problem.
How this????? May be it's the problem with VB's integer declarations?

> I will try your suggestions anyway.
I wuold be very interested on the results of BIOS calls. I think the
two example listings would be exactly what You need for this.
A second question: Could it be that 16 bit programs MAY directly call
a hardware port under NT?

Bye, Roland




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List Member jerry allen <jaln@sprintmail.com> wrote:
Thanks, got hardport.zip; I'll check it out.
When using interrupt $17, AH=2, I always get $90, and that the printer is ready even
if it is off. The SST kernel driver I sent the URL for
(http://www.sstnet.com/dnload/dnload.htm) about always works correctly. NT shadows
the low level drivers from the user program using user porgram level3 access. and
kernel mod level 0 access which requires a little driver. But I have been read that
NT SHOULD allow 16 bit user program access to ports except for drives by way of  a
virtual device (not really directly). I'll report back when I know more. Have not
tried your software yet.

I have the $49 test programmer by ATMEL (the ATSTK200 available from:
http://www.marshall.com/dynamic/pdpage?m=atm&p=ATSTK200-)  for all AMTEL AT90's,
89's, megas and tiny's. It is very easy to use and has interfaces for many test
purposes like LCD readouts. There is also some more software here:
http://www.dontronics.com/basc-avr.html and http://www.dontronics.com/atmel.html.
I am creating a flash programmer based on the AT90S8515.
Thanks for the tip on SP12--looks very interesting.

> So I do ;-) Do You know the ATMEL chip programmer software SP12? It's
> the best low-cost system I have ever seen (a DOS program with
> source).
> But momently I have to use PIC microcontrollers (I hate them) and are
> writing a low-cost programmer software with GFA BAsic for Windows.
>
> My tries where permanently ended with one or the other missing
> header file :-(
>
> I wuold be very interested on the results of BIOS calls. I think the
> two example listings would be exactly what You need for this.
> A second question: Could it be that 16 bit programs MAY directly call
> a hardware port under NT?

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List Member Jim Pennington <Jim@x-act.net> wrote:

Is there a list of Runtime Errors available? In the meantime, can anyone
tell me what -002 and -003 are?

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List Member Jim Pennington <Jim@x-act.net> wrote:

Tom,

Thanks for the quick response and the copy of the file. I found that file
after sending my last post, and also found a copy of it in GfawHelp. They
show error -002="No such file or directory", but error -003 is "Error
Undefined". Any ideas?

Thanks for your help,

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List Member "Eberhard Funck" <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de> wrote:


>List Member "Roland Walter" <roland@rowalt.de> wrote:
>> List Member Michael Weigand <michael-weigand@foni.net> wrote:
>O.K., under NT the file select box is a problem, there You will have
>to use the 32 bit GetOpenFileName. It's an NT bug I think.


It's not a NT bug!!!!
NT has the original Windows 3.1 DLLs for 16 bit functions.
Therefore you get the old fileselectbox out of the commdlg.dll
under NT.

Greetings

Eberhard


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List Member BDD <BrentDeck@compuserve.com> wrote:
>I would make the sources free on one condition:
>The first task is to make example sources for everybody. The user
>of my sources is called on completing the sources, to good =

>commenting them and to publish it here in the discussion group.

Roland, =


I've been off line for  a few days.
I notice that Anthony is up to your offer,  =

I'll also give it a try.

Thanks for your generosity =


Brent
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
PRINTER
I've always found that this works well ..By Bev Brown

IF @printer_check
  DEFMOUSE 2
  OPEN "o",#2,"LPT1
  ...
  CLOSE #2
  DEFMOUSE 2
ELSE
  BEEP
  ? "Printer NOT ready!!!"
ENDIF

FUNCTION printer_check
  LOCAL i
  DO
    ~INTR($17,_AH = 2,_DX = i)
    EXIT IF BTST(_AH,4)
    i ++
  LOOP UNTIL i > 2
  ~INTR($17,_AH = 2,_DX = i)
  RETURN BTST(_AH,7)
ENDFUNC



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>tell me what -002 and -003 are?
>
>Jim Pennington
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
At 02:36 PM 01/09/99 PST, you wrote:
>List Member Jim Pennington <Jim@x-act.net> wrote:
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>Tom,
>
>Thanks for the quick response and the copy of the file. I found that file
>after sending my last post, and also found a copy of it in GfawHelp. They
>show error -002="No such file or directory", but error -003 is "Error
>Undefined". Any ideas?
>
>Thanks for your help,
>
>Jim Pennington
>

Jim
There is a list (or lists!) a mile long.  Somebody got lazy or just ran
out of imagination tho, so "undefined" gets a good workout.  The other
one, "no such..." isn't as pure & simple as it looks.  You can have a
path set up to something, but if *anything* is wrong in the path, you
will get that error just as if the file or dir, itself, is nonexistant.

Kin to this is the case of calling for a *.dll.  If it isn't a Windows
system *.dll, it's not likely to be found at all unless it's extension
is on it in the call & it sometimes draws the error even then.  This comes
from not being "installed" by the system in system.ini or the registry.

Glad I could help a bit.
<G>
TomR.


In essence, if the path is wrong in any manner, the error is telling you
that the file or dir doesn't exist *where you said in the path*.  It
may exist for real, but you misinformed the program where to look.

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List Member Jim Pennington <Jim@x-act.net> wrote:

Tom and Marijan,

Thanks for your help with the error messages. I had forgotten about the
ERR$() function.

As a bit of background, I am converting a fairly large Atari GFA program
to GFW. It will run on a mixed peer network of OS2/WINOS2 and Win98
systems. Due to the limitations of DOS/GFW in the areas of max open files
and max fields in a FIELD statement, I have had to change a large portion
of the disk I/O stuff. Logically, most remaining problems will be disk
I/O related. The program is now working fine with the interpreter, but
the compiled version still has some errors. 

For those who are interested, the Win9x Error -002 was caused by the use
of the TOUCH #n statement, and it gave a "Sharing Violation" when run on
WINOS2. It either worked with the interpreter, or was being ignored.
Since I never used the file date anyway, I fixed it by deleting it! :)

I haven't gotten to tracking down the Error -003 yet.

Thanks again,

Jim Pennington





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List Member Jim Pennington <Jim@x-act.net> wrote:

Has anyone else experienced this? Is there a fix?

I was writing an application for a GPS receiver and was having problems
getting it to work (it would work about 1 out of 100 times). I looked on
the GFA FTP site, and downloaded about a dozen sample listings, one of
which was "lookport.lst", author unknown. Much to my surprise, it was
written specifically for display of GPS data. Guess what? The code was
almost the same as my own, and it didn't work most of the time either!

What I have come up with so far is this: if you initialize the port while
data is coming in, it seems to lock up the port. No errors are generated
during the setup process (or read), but no data is received. I have
simulated this by connecting PC-PC and using Hyperterm on one of them to
send data that I can start and stop (you can't stop the data on a GPS).
If the comm port is initialized before the data is started, it works
fine every time. I've got to think that there is something in the
configuration that will fix this, but I haven't found it yet.

Any ideas?

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List Member "Roland Walter" <roland@rowalt.de> wrote:

> If the comm port is initialized before the data is started, it works
> fine every time. I've got to think that there is something in the
> configuration that will fix this, but I haven't found it yet.

I think You get a cue overflow.
If the receive- or the send-cue has an overflow the comm port
is locked until You call the API functio GetCommError()
A simple call of GetCommError() without doing anything with
the returned data should be enough to solve this problem. 

... some code ...
Port&=OpenComm("COM2",512,512)
DCB$=STRING$(64,0) 'replacement for a DCB. structure
~BuildCommDCB("COM2:2400,N,8,1",V:DCB$)
~SetCommState(V:DCB$)
ComStat$=STRING$(5,0) 'ComStat. replacement
~GetCommError(ComId&,V:ComStat$)
... some code ...

Bye, Roland

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List Member Jim Pennington <Jim@x-act.net> wrote:

Roland,

Success! After setting up the port, I added GetCommError() followed by
FlushComm(). The first resets the port and the second gets rid of the
garbage characters caused by turning on the port mid-datastream.

Thanks for your help... I owe you one,

Jim Pennington

P.S. Does anyone know where I can find good descriptions of DCB and
COMSTAT structures which include literal parameter values/ranges?



> I think You get a cue overflow. 
> If the receive- or the send-cue has an overflow the comm port 
> is locked until You call the API functio GetCommError() 
> A simple call of GetCommError() without doing anything with 
> the returned data should be enough to solve this problem.




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List Member Jim Pennington <Jim@x-act.net> wrote:

> List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote: 
> Hi Jim, 
> Have a sample e routine?

Dale,

I will be happy to submit it, but I would like to get the handshaking
sorted out first. At 38,400 baud, a continuous stream still locks up the
port occasionally. For some reason the port doesn't seem to be dropping
RTS when the buffer hits the high water mark.

If you like, I could send the GPS code, which doesn't use handshaking,
followed by a more general purpose transmit/receive version with
handshaking.

Jim



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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Hi Jim,
Have a sample e routine?

http://gfawhelp.gfa.net
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> List Member Jim Pennington <Jim@x-act.net> wrote:
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> Roland,
>
> Success! After setting up the port, I added GetCommError() followed by
> FlushComm(). The first resets the port and the second gets rid of the
> garbage characters caused by turning on the port mid-datastream.
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Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 11:00:10 +0200
Subject: Full featured POP3 mail program

Hallo,
Here is the second version of my POP3 mail program example.
It's now full featured and thorough revised (the first version was
quick made from my evaluating version only).

The program is able to:
- connect a server
- log in
- retrieving the number of waiting mails
- downloading mails
- deleting mails on server
- disconnecting of course
Deleting mails is commented out in the listing because I think
You will need Your mails for Your "real" mail program ;-)

Because POP3 protocol can be used for downloading mails only
the example program cannot send mails. For sending You have
to use the SMTP protocol. But this is simple to do because
both protocols are simple text based protocols. Both and more
protocols You can find described here:
http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/htbin/std/INDEX.std.html
In the same way You are also able to write own FTP or HTTP
programs (what about a simple WWW server for local use?).

O.K., that's all. Please write me if You find errors in the listing
and also give me some respond. Of course I am very curious
about what people are doing from the listing!

Bye, Roland

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List Member "Russell Hayward" <tarquin@baphead.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
Hi Jim,

Have you got the Windows 3.1 SDK, there are pretty long descriptions of both the
DCB and COMSTAT structures in there.

Russell Hayward

----- Original Message -----
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| List Member Jim Pennington <Jim@x-act.net> wrote:
|
| Roland,
|
| Success! After setting up the port, I added GetCommError() followed by
| FlushComm(). The first resets the port and the second gets rid of the
| garbage characters caused by turning on the port mid-datastream.
|
| Thanks for your help... I owe you one,
|
| Jim Pennington
|
| P.S. Does anyone know where I can find good descriptions of DCB and
| COMSTAT structures which include literal parameter values/ranges?
|
|
|
| > I think You get a cue overflow.
| > If the receive- or the send-cue has an overflow the comm port
| > is locked until You call the API functio GetCommError()
| > A simple call of GetCommError() without doing anything with
| > the returned data should be enough to solve this problem.
|
|
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Hi Jim,
Take your time. Send it when you are satisfied with it. I would like to make
it available for download and also, depending on size, put it in the
GFAWHELP file.
Thanks for replying,
Dale

>
> Dale,
>
> I will be happy to submit it, but I would like to get the handshaking
> sorted out first. At 38,400 baud, a continuous stream still locks up the
> port occasionally. For some reason the port doesn't seem to be dropping
> RTS when the buffer hits the high water mark.
>
> If you like, I could send the GPS code, which doesn't use handshaking,
> followed by a more general purpose transmit/receive version with
> handshaking.
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> Jim
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List Member Jim Pennington <jim@x-act.net> wrote:

Russell,

Yes, I have the SDK. What I have found so far is:

1. The literal values for the flags in COMSTAT are not specified, nor
are they pre-defined in GFW. The return values for GetCommError(),
however, ARE specified in the SDK, and ARE pre-defined in GFW.
2. For the DCB, the constants shown for BaudRate are not specifically
defined, are not predefined in GFW, and the number part of the names do
not correspond exactly to standard baud rates. Presumably,
CBR_28000=28800, CBR_56000=57600, CBR_128000=115200, and
CBR_256000=230400. I am assuming that the number in the constant name is
the number to be used in the DCB, but I will be checking that out soon
(when I get RTS/CTS to work correctly).
3. Values for Parity and StopBits are not shown in the SDK, but ARE
pre-defined in GFW.
4. It seemd to me that there was something else undefined, but I can't
find it right now.

Jim


> 
> List Member "Russell Hayward" <tarquin@baphead.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
> Hi Jim,
> 
> Have you got the Windows 3.1 SDK, there are pretty long descriptions of both the
> DCB and COMSTAT structures in there.
> 
> Russell Hayward
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jim Pennington <Jim@x-act.net>
> To: <gfabasic@gfa.net>
> Sent: Friday, September 03, 1999 8:31 PM
> Subject: Re: [gfabasic] Serial port problems
> 
> | List Member Jim Pennington <Jim@x-act.net> wrote:
> |
> | Roland,
> |
> | Success! After setting up the port, I added GetCommError() followed by
> | FlushComm(). The first resets the port and the second gets rid of the
> | garbage characters caused by turning on the port mid-datastream.
> |
> | Thanks for your help... I owe you one,
> |
> | Jim Pennington
> |
> | P.S. Does anyone know where I can find good descriptions of DCB and
> | COMSTAT structures which include literal parameter values/ranges?
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List Member J.Burgmeier@t-online.de (Juergen Burgmeier) wrote:
Hello,
I am using CLIPPASTE to paste text information from the clipboard
to a string variable without knowing the clipboard size in advance.
The size is needed for PEEK$().
Up to now I get it in an aroundabout way, see the short listing
Knows anybody, how get the clipboard size directly ?
Maybe there is an example.

Thanks and Greetings
Juergen

'------------------------- TEST : copy a$ to clipboard
a$=STRING$(50,"z")
CLRCLIP
CLIPFORMAT CF_TEXT
a$=a$+CHR$(0)
a%=LEN(a$)
CLIPCOPY V:a$, a%
'---------------------- paste clipboard to b$
lcb%=1000              // guess of maximum clipboard length
CLIPFORMAT CF_TEXT
CLIPPASTE h%, dummy%
b%=32*CEIL(lcb%/32)
REPEAT
  test
UNTIL LEN(b$)>0
b$=ZTRIM$(PEEK$(h%,b%))
PRINT b$
KEYGET dummy%
CLOSEW #1
'-------------
PROCEDURE test
  TRY
    b$=PEEK$(h%,b%)
  CATCH
  b%-=32
RETURN
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List Member UlliStemmeler@t-online.de (Ulli Stemmeler) wrote:
Hello,

I am working on a sub-routine to scan all drives for a certain file-type =
(in=20
this case, avi-files).
There=B4s a problem I have with CD-Rom and other removable drives: I can =
find out=20
what drives are existing, but I don=B4t know how to find out if a drive i=
s ready=20
or not. So if I scan all drives and there=B4s for example an empty CD-Rom=
-Drive I=20
get an error-message. And this error message is a System-Message so I can=
=B4t=20
handle it with an Error-Procedure...
Actually I have limited this file-scan to fixed harddrives. But if it=B4s=
 possible=20
to include CDroms and avoid not-ready-CD-roms I would like to include the=
m.

Something like...

IF DRIVE(number)=3DCD_ROM and DRIVE(number)=3Dready
....

(I know how to find out if it=B4s CD-Rom, but not, if this is ready or no=
t...

Thanks,
Ulli Stemmeler,
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List Member "B.M.C.S." <bmcs@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
Hi Jim,

The following may be of interest to you

Regards
Dave Barton

'---------------------------------------------------------------------------
---------------

PROCEDURE InitComm()
  DLL #1,"USER"
    DECL BOOL EnableCommNotification(w,w,w,w)
  ENDDLL
  ' GFA does not recognise this function, so you have to declare it
  ' EnableCommNotification(hCom&,hWnd&,InByte&,OutByte&)
  ' Returns TRUE if successful
  ' The calling parameters are:
  '     hCom&    =  The port ID returned by OpenComm()
  '     hWnd&    =  The window to receive the WM_COMMNOTIFY message
  '     InByte&  =  The number of bytes in the receive queue,
  '                 which will trigger the WM_COMMNOTIFY message
  '     OutByte& =  The number of bytes in the transmit queue,
  '                 which will trigger the WM_COMMNOTIFY message
  '
  ' The InByte& and OutByte& will enable the WM_COMMNOTIFY message
  ' if they are set to any value other than -1
  '
  ' The Device Control Block Structure
  TYPE DCBType:
  - UBYTE Id             ' device (port) identifier
  - CARD BaudRate        ' baud rate
  - UBYTE ByteSize       ' number of bits per byte, 4 - 8
  - UBYTE Parity         ' 0=none, 1=odd, 2=even, 3=mark, 4=space
  - UBYTE StopBits       ' 0 = 1, 1 = 1.5, 2 = 2
  - CARD RLSTimeOut      ' timeout for RLSD to be set
  - CARD CTSTimeOut      ' timeout for CTS to be set
  - CARD DSRTimeOut      ' timeout for DSR to be set
  - UBYTE BitField1      ' SEE 16 Bit Fields definitions below
  - UBYTE BitField2      ' SEE 16 Bit Fields definitions below
  - CHAR(1) XonChar$     ' Tx and Rx XON character
  - CHAR(1) XoffChar$    ' Tx and Rx XOFF character
  - CARD XonLim          ' transmit XON threshold
  - CARD XoffLim         ' transmit XOFF threshold
  - CHAR(1) PeChar$      ' parity error replacement char
  - CHAR(1) EOFChar$     ' end of Input character
  - CHAR(1) EVTChar$     ' received event character
  - CARD TxDelay         ' amount of time between chars
  ENDTYPE
  DCBType: DCB.
  '
  ' Definition Bit Field 1:
  '     fBinary          ' 1; binary mode (skip EOF check)
  '     fRtsDisable      ' 1; don't assert RTS at init time
  '     fParity          ' 1; enable parity checking
  '     fOutxCtsFlow     ' 1; CTS handshaking on output
  '     fOutxDsrFlow     ' 1; DSR handshaking on output
  '     fDummy           ' 2; reserved
  '     fDtrDisable      ' 1; don't assert DTR at init time
  '
  ' Definition Bit Field 2:
  '     fOutX            ' 1; enable output XON/XOFF
  '     fInX             ' 1; enable input XON/XOFF
  '     fPeChar          ' 1; enable parity err replacement
  '     fNull            ' 1; enable null stripping
  '     fChEvt           ' 1; enable Rx character event
  '     fDtrFlow         ' 1; DTR handshake on input
  '     fRtsFlow         ' 1; RTS handshake on input
  '     fDummy2          ' 1; reserved
  '
  ' The Comms Status Structure
  TYPE ComStatType:
  - UBYTE Status         ' SEE BELOW: Bit field structure for status
  - CARD cbInQue         ' count of characters in Rx Queue
  - CARD cbOutQue        ' count of characters in Tx Queue
  ENDTYPE
  ComStatType: COMSTAT.
  '
  ' Bit structure for status of transmission
  ' fCtsHold  (CSTF_CTSHOLD| = $01)
  '     Transmission is waiting for the CTS signal to be sent.
  ' fDsrHold  (CSTF_DSRHOLD| = $02)
  '     Transmission is waiting for the DSR signal to be sent.
  ' fRlsdHold (CSTF_RLSDHOLD| = $04)
  '     Transmission is waiting for the RLSD signal to be sent.
  ' fXoffHold (CSTF_XOFFHOLD| = $08)
  '     Transmission is waiting as a result of the XOFF character being
received.
  ' fXoffSent (CSTF_XOFFSENT| = $10)
  '     Transmission is waiting as a result of the XOFF character being
transmitted.
  '     Transmission halts when the XOFF character is transmitted and used
by systems
  '     that take the next character as XON, regardless of the actual
character.
  ' fEof      (CSTF_EOF| = $20)
  '     The end-of-file (EOF) character has been received.
  ' fTxim     (CSTF_TXIM| = $40)
  '     A character is waiting to be transmitted.
  '
  Quit! = FALSE
  ' My program termination control variable
  PrevMSR& = %11111111
  '
  /***** Define Comms Constants *****/
  WM_COMMNOTIFY& = $44
  ' Define the value of WM_COMMNOTIFY message for MENU(11)
  '
  CN_RECEIVE& = $0001
  CN_TRANSMIT& = $0002
  ' Define the values of CN_RECEIVE and CN_TRANSMIT for MENU(13)
  ' Notifications passed in LOWORD of lParam in WM_COMMNOTIFY messages
  CN_EVENT& = $0004
  ' CN_EVENT is almost impossible because of bugs in SetCommEventMask()
  '
  /* Error Flags Returned from GetCommError() */
  /* Already defined in GFA
  /* CE_RXOVER& = $01
  /* CE_OVERRUN& = $02
  /* CE_RXPARITY& = $04
  /* CE_FRAME& = $08
  /* CE_BREAK& = $10
  /* CE_CTSTO& = $20
  /* CE_DSRTO& = $40
  /* CE_RLSDTO& = $80
  /* CE_TXFULL& = $100
  /* CE_PTO& = $200
  /* CE_IOE& = $400
  /* CE_DNS& = $800
  /* CE_OOP& = $1000
  /* CE_MODE& = $8000
  '
  /* CommOpen Error Codes */
  /* Already defined in GFA
  /* IE_BADID& = -1
  /* IE_OPEN& = -2
  /* IE_NOPEN& = -3
  /* IE_MEMORY& = -4
  /* IE_DEFAULT& = -5
  /* IE_HARDWARE& = -10
  /* IE_BYTESIZE& = -11
  /* IE_BAUDRATE& = -12
  '
  /* Event Codes */
  EV_RXCHAR& = $01
  EV_RXFLAG& = $02
  EV_TXEMPTY& = $04
  EV_CTS& = $08
  EV_DSR& = $10
  EV_RLSD& = $20
  EV_BREAK& = $40
  EV_ERR& = $80
  ' EV_RING&=$100  -  Use EV_RINGTE&
  EV_PERR& = $200
  EV_CTSS& = $400
  EV_DSRS& = $800
  EV_RLSDS& = $1000
  EV_RINGTE& = &2000
  '
  /* Escape Functions */
  /* Already defined in GFA
  ' SETXOFF& = 1
  ' SETXON& = 2
  ' SETRTS& = 3
  ' CLRRTS& = 4
  ' SETDTR& = 5
  ' CLRDTR& = 6
  ' RESETDEV& = 7
  ' LPTx& = $80
  '
  /* New Escape functions */
  GETMAXLPT& = 8
  GETMAXCOM& = 9
  GETBASEIRQ& = 10
  '
  /* Comm Baud Rate indices */
  /* To Use - Make Variable (CARD) UNSIGNED WORD
  CBR_110& = $FF10
  CBR_300& = $FF11
  CBR_600& = $FF12
  CBR_1200& = $FF13
  CBR_2400& = $FF14
  CBR_4800& = $FF15
  CBR_9600& = $FF16
  CBR_14400& = $FF17
  CBR_19200& = $FF18
  CBR_38400& = $FF1B
  CBR_56000& = $FF1F
  CBR_128000& = $FF23
  CBR_256000& = $FF27
  '
  /* COMSTAT Status flags
  CSTF_CTSHOLD| = $01
  ' Set if transmission is waiting for the CTS signal to be sent.
  CSTF_DSRHOLD| = $02
  ' Set if transmission is waiting for the DSR signal to be sent.
  CSTF_RLSDHOLD| = $04
  ' Set if transmission is waiting for the RLSD signal to be sent.
  CSTF_XOFFHOLD| = $08
  ' Set if transmission is waiting as a result of the XOFF char being
received.
  CSTF_XOFFSENT| = $10
  ' Set if transmission is waiting as a result of the XOFF char being
transmitted.
  CSTF_EOF| = $20
  ' Set if the end-of-file (EOF) character has been received.
  CSTF_TXIM| = $40
  ' Set if a character is waiting to be transmitted.
  '
  /* Windows Comms Functions */
  ' int BuildCommDCB(V:Mode$,V:DCB)
  ' int OpenComm(LPCSTR, UINT, UINT)
  ' int CloseComm(int)
  ' int ReadComm(int, void FAR*, int)
  ' int WriteComm(int, const void FAR*, int)
  ' int UngetCommChar(int, char)
  ' int FlushComm(int, int)
  ' int TransmitCommChar(int, char)
  ' int SetCommState(const DCB FAR*)
  ' int GetCommState(int, DCB FAR*)
  ' int GetCommError(int, COMSTAT FAR* )
  ' int SetCommBreak(int)
  ' int ClearCommBreak(int)
  ' UINT FAR* SetCommEventMask(int, UINT)
  ' UINT GetCommEventMask(int, int)
  ' LONG EscapeCommFunction(int, int)
  ' BOOL EnableCommNotification(int, HWND, int, int)
RETURN

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Subject: RE: [gfabasic] How to find out if a drive is ready...
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List Member "EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" <JoeHurst@snafu.de> wrote:
> get an error-message. And this error message is a System-Message so I c=
an=B4t
> handle it with an Error-Procedure...
Your problem is no problem, I solved it several times. Here is my best so=
lution
(Dale: do you have it in your help-file?).
 Bye, Joe
//
// Pr=FCft OHNE Windows-Meldung, ob ein Datentr=E4ger in einem Laufwerk e=
ingelegt
ist.
// Check for a valid drive WITHOUT windows-system-message.
// Gepr=FCft f=FCr / checked with Disk: funktioniert/works
//                      ZIP intern: funktioniert/works
//                          CD-ROM: funktioniert/works
// FREE 3/1998 JoeHurst@berlin.snafu.de
//
OPENW #1,50,50,500,200,0
' THE TRICK! Part 1: Set to origin (can be changed by other applications!=
)
~SetErrorMode(0)
// Einen g=FCltigen Pfad =FCbergeben!
// give a valid path!
If Fn b_CheckDrive("a:\*.*")=3DTrue Then
  b$=3D"JA / YES"
ELSE
  b$=3D"NEIN / NO"
ENDIF
PRINT "Disk/CD bereit / ready? "+b$
PRINT ""
PRINT "Bitte eine Taste dr=FCcken! / Press a key"
KEYGET a%
CLOSEW #1
END
'
FUNCTION b_CheckDrive(mask$)       // Return: Boolean
  LOCAL dtasave$,success!
  LOCAL dta%=3DFGETDTA()
  ~SetErrorMode(1)              ' THE TRICK! Part 2: Handle errors myself
  TRY
    success!=3DFALSE
    dtasave$=3DPEEK$(dta%,44)
    // Wenn irgendwas auf dem Laufwerk ist (Label, Dateien, Verzeichnisse=
),
    // ist der Test erfolgreich und wir k=F6nnen die Funktion verlassen
    // If there is anything on the drive (Label, Files, SubDirs),
    // the check is successfull and we may leave the function
    IF FSFIRST(mask$,63)>=3D0 THEN
      POKE$ dta%,dtasave$
      ~SetErrorMode(0)          ' THE TRICK! Part 3a) back to origin
      // ? "OK FSFIRST"
      RETURN TRUE
    ENDIF
    // Wenn nix gefunden wurde, pr=FCfen wir auf Speicherplatz,
    // so werden auch ganz leere Datentr=E4ger als g=FCltig gefunden
    // If there was nothing, we check for disk-space, so
    // complete empty drives will be valid, too.
    IF DFREE(ASC(LEFT$(UPPER$(mask$)))-64)>0 THEN success!=3DTRUE
    POKE$ dta%,dtasave$
    ~SetErrorMode(0)            ' THE TRICK! Part 3b) back to origin
    // ? "OK DFREE"
    RETURN success!
  CATCH
  // ? "ERROR Check"
  ~SetErrorMode(0)
  RETURN FALSE
ENDFUNC


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List Member "Eberhard Funck" <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de> wrote:
Hiallo Ulli,

Another way to test an empty drive:

~SetErrorMode(1) /* switch out the system message
'
Drive$ = "A"
'
e% = FGATTR (Drive$ + ":\") /* e% always < 0, if you can't read from a drive
IF (e% < 0 )
     m$ = "I can not read from drive: " + Drive$ + CHR$(13)
     m$ = m$ + "Give security, that a disk is in this drive."
    ~MessageBox (hwnd& m$, "Error", MB_OK | MB_ICONEXCLAMATION)
ENDIF
'
~SetErrorMode(0) /* switch on the system message


This few lines I have implemented in all my application
with own fileselectbox like Album.exe, GfaTool1.dll and so on.
It works very well.

Greetings

Eberhard




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List Member Jim Pennington <jim@x-act.net> wrote:

Dave,

Thanks for the code! I think it fills in a lot of the gaps, and I should
have my routines working tonight or tomorrow.

Jim Pennington

> List Member "B.M.C.S." <bmcs@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
> Hi Jim,
> 
> The following may be of interest to you
> 
> Regards
> Dave Barton
> '---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ---------------
> 
> PROCEDURE InitComm()
>   DLL #1,"USER"
>     DECL BOOL EnableCommNotification(w,w,w,w)
>   ENDDLL
>   ' GFA does not recognise this function, so you have to declare it
>   ' EnableCommNotification(hCom&,hWnd&,InByte&,OutByte&)
>   ' Returns TRUE if successful
>   ' The calling parameters are:
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Sent: Saturday, September 04, 1999 10:36 AM
Subject: Another Adventure Complete


Turned on system number two to the sounds of silence.

No hard drive activity, no lights, no beeps, nothing.
It appeared Grave Yard Dead.

I thought well this seems simple enough, it must have come uplugged from =
the wall.
Checked and it was all right.

Now the adventure began, I said this is gonna take lots of coffee and =
the aid
of Super Tweak!

Put on the old 30 cup Urn of Java. Removed my flannel shirt,  boots and =
gold rimed glasses.
Put on Penny loafers, white lab coat, black framed glasses with medical =
tape over nose,
installed pocket protector stuffed full of colored pencils and pens.

Unzipped the Leather case of tools and laid them out on the desk top. =
Pulled back lower
jaw so top teeth hung over lower teeth. (true geeks have an over bite). =
Filled cup, threw it out
and got a pepsi.

Super Tweak was ready!!
Removed cover, pulled in my lighted magnifing glass and had a look see. =
One toasted spider,
two dust bunnies and one unknown mummified object.
Got the can of compressed gas and gave everything a good blow and =
frosting.
Did you know you can write in the frost just like snow?? Well not just =
like, I used a tooth pick
and it was not yellow.
Now since I have one of them there fancy Puritan water filters, I took a =
cue from Steve Y.
and got me a pan full of that there "pure" water. Got out one of them =
fancy acid brushes
and gave everything a good bath. Man it looks nice and shiney in there =
now.

Now I remember Carlos said it's gotta be good and dry...got out the old =
hair dryer
and gave it a good blow. Did you know a hair dryer can melt the plastic =
stuff on wires??
Man it smells bad. Got out my roll of electric tape and fixed the melted =
spot.

Ok I says to my self...as a Super Tweak you gotta talk to your self, =
Time to switch on.
Switch on...nothing happened....Hmmmm I said this ain't right.
Took out the hard drive and stuck a pin in the little hole and gave it a =
spin...good not frozen.
Was worried it had too much frost.
Gutted the entire box, had a look see at each item all looked fine. A =
couple of cards had some
loose foil line things but super glue fixed them.
Put each item back in one at a time...switch on..nothing..switch off.... =
next item..switch on...nothing...
switch off...etc.
Now this is turning in to a real puzzle, me thinks...pushing glasses =
back up nose. I need a fatter nose.

Gets another cola, spills it on keyboard, now what?? Wait I remember =
Val, said head to the shower.
Me and the keyboad strip down and head off to the shower. Rub-a-Dub me =
and the keyboard
in the tub...now we both feel better. We, me and keyboard, get =
reassembled after drying of course.
Plug it back in..switch on..nothing..switch off.  Hmmmmm.

Lets look at the back of this box and see what's what, I says.

Shazaam!! There is the problem, the power cord had come off of the back =
of the box.
Put it back on...switch on....WOW..look at the pretty sparks...aw there =
are gone. They sure
were pretty and loud. Must have left a screw on a fan blade as it came =
flying out and struck
me..the tape on the glasses cushioned the blow..still it smarts.

All seems well now and the system is running fine. Put back on my =
flannel shirt, boots and gold glasses.
Another job well done by Super Tweak.

Moral of the story..Check both ends of the stupid power cable.

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<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, September 04, 1999 10:36 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Another Adventure Complete</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman">Turned on system number two to the =
sounds of=20
silence.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman">No hard drive activity, no lights, =
no beeps,=20
nothing.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman">It appeared&nbsp;Grave Yard =
Dead.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman">I thought well this seems simple =
enough, it=20
must have come uplugged from the wall.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman">Checked and it was all =
right.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman">Now the adventure began, I said this =
is gonna=20
take lots of coffee and the aid</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman">of Super Tweak!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman">Put on the old 30 cup Urn of Java. =
Removed my=20
flannel shirt,&nbsp; boots and gold rimed glasses.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman">Put on&nbsp;Penny loafers, white lab =
coat,=20
black framed glasses with medical tape over nose,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman">installed pocket protector stuffed =
full of=20
colored pencils and pens.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman">Unzipped the Leather case of tools =
and laid=20
them out on the desk top. Pulled back lower</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman">jaw so top teeth hung over lower =
teeth. (true=20
geeks have an over bite). Filled cup, threw it out</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman">and got a pepsi.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman">Super Tweak was ready!!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman">Removed cover, pulled in my lighted =
magnifing=20
glass and had a look see. One toasted spider,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman">two dust bunnies and one unknown =
mummified=20
object.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman">Got the can of compressed gas and =
gave=20
everything a good blow and frosting.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman">Did you know you can write in the =
frost just=20
like snow?? Well not just like, I used a tooth pick</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman">and it was not yellow.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman">Now since I have one of them there =
fancy=20
Puritan water filters, I took a cue from Steve Y.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman">and got me a pan full of that there =
"pure"=20
water. Got out one of them fancy acid brushes</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman">and gave everything a good bath. Man =
it looks=20
nice and shiney in there now.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman">Now I remember Carlos said it's =
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and dry...got out the old hair dryer</FONT></DIV>
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frost.</FONT></DIV>
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see at each=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman">loose foil line things but super =
glue fixed=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman">Put each item back in one at a =
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on..nothing..switch off.... next item..switch =
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nose.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman">Gets another cola, spills it on =
keyboard, now=20
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better. We, me=20
and keyboard, get&nbsp;reassembled after drying of course.</FONT></DIV>
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on..nothing..switch=20
off.&nbsp; Hmmmmm.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman">Lets look at the back of this box =
and see=20
what's what, I says.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman">Shazaam!! There is the problem, the =
power cord=20
had come off of the back of the box.</FONT></DIV>
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on....WOW..look at the=20
pretty sparks...aw there are gone. They sure</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman">were pretty and loud. Must have left =
a screw=20
on a fan blade as it came flying out and struck</FONT></DIV>
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cushioned the=20
blow..still it smarts.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman">All seems well now and the system is =
running=20
fine. Put back on my flannel shirt, boots and gold glasses.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman">Another job well done by Super=20
Tweak.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman">Moral of the story..Check both ends =
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List Member "B.M.C.S." <bmcs@ozemail.com.au> wrote:

Can anyone tell me what the Compiler Error "Element Redefinition" means.

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List Member John Findlay <Jayef@compuserve.com> wrote:

Dave,

> Can anyone tell me what the Compiler Error "Element Redefinition" means=
.
<

I've usually had that error when two different TYPE's contain an element
with the same name. Or have two TYPE's with the same name declared in
different places.

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List Member "Eberhard Funck" <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de> wrote:


>List Member "B.M.C.S." <bmcs@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
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>Can anyone tell me what the Compiler Error "Element Redefinition" means.
>

>Regards
>Dave Barton


It means, that you have in your type declarations two or more
type-variables with the same name.

sample:

TYPE RECT:
 - WORD x
 - WORD y
 - WORD w
 - WORD h
ENDTYPE
'
TYPE POINT:
 - WORD x  <-- double, rename px
 - WORD y  <-- double, rename py
ENDTYPE
 
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
I am looking for an article on the v.107 compiler for GFA Windows.  Why the
different options and how do they affect a compiled program. The command
line switches, what do they do?  Do different programs require different
options to be set? Why Fast, Small or Tiny? What are these Alignment
settings, Byte, Word, Dword and Para? What happens if you check Use
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Let the whole world know!
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List Member "B.M.C.S." <bmcs@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
Thanks John & Eberhard, you are right, I should have checked my code in more
detail before asking silly questions.

Great idea for the compiler article Dale. The manual is not much use, unless
you already know the what the options do.

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List Member UlliStemmeler@t-online.de (Ulli Stemmeler) wrote:
Hello,

thank you for your answers ! I tried them and they work !
So I guess I found the way to include removable drives and so on in my "s=
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It will be part of a video-player program I hope to have ready in a very =
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Hi Dave,
I sure hope one of the gurus will grab on to the compiler article, I think
it would be very informative and helpful.
Dale

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> Great idea for the compiler article Dale. The manual is not much use,
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> you already know the what the options do.
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> Regards,
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Has anyone gotten Rolands POP3 code to work?  I keep getting a server logon
error>
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List Member Anthony Watson <awatson@pacifier.com> wrote:
Dale,

> Has anyone gotten Rolands POP3 code to work?
> I keep getting a server logon error

I have picked up Rolands source codes, but have not had a chance to look
at them yet. I'm hoping to find some time this next week, but we'll see...

I'm excited about this code example, because I've been searching for this
kind of thing for a long time. Hopefully it can be developed further and
fine tuned for use by all GFA programmers. Thanks Roland!

Take care,

Anthony

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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Hi Anthony,
Please let us know if you can get a server logon. Roland writes such great
code I keep thinking that I must be doing something wrong.

Dale

>
> I have picked up Rolands source codes, but have not had a chance to look
> at them yet. I'm hoping to find some time this next week, but we'll see...
>
> I'm excited about this code example, because I've been searching for this
> kind of thing for a long time. Hopefully it can be developed further and
> fine tuned for use by all GFA programmers. Thanks Roland!
>
> Take care,
>
> Anthony




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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
There are currently 99 subscribers to the 'Not Affiliated With GFA' news
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List Member "Eberhard Funck" <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de> wrote:


>List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
>Hi Dave,
>I sure hope one of the gurus will grab on to the compiler article, I think
>it would be very informative and helpful.
>Dale


Hi Gurus,

I can not grab on to the compiler article.
Since the day I had bought compiler and interpreter,
I work always with following compiler switches:
SizeOpt: fast
Alignement: DWORD
'
Only 386+
Only 80x87
Clear locals

Thats all and I drive with these otions very well
with all my applications. The describtion-book I can not
understand. 

Thats all about this theme from me.

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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
HI Eberhard,
Why DWORD?

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> List Member "Eberhard Funck" <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de> wrote:
>
>
> >List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> >Hi Dave,
> >I sure hope one of the gurus will grab on to the compiler article, I
think
> >it would be very informative and helpful.
> >Dale
>
>
> Hi Gurus,
>
> I can not grab on to the compiler article.
> Since the day I had bought compiler and interpreter,
> I work always with following compiler switches:
> SizeOpt: fast
> Alignement: DWORD
> '
> Only 386+
> Only 80x87
> Clear locals
>
> Thats all and I drive with these otions very well
> with all my applications. The describtion-book I can not
> understand.
>
> Thats all about this theme from me.
>
> Greetings
>
> Eberhard
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List Member "Roland Walter" <roland@rowalt.de> wrote:

> Has anyone gotten Rolands POP3 code to work?  I keep getting a server logon
> error>
When I send the mail I did not get an "echo" mail from the list!
What is happend? Shall I send it again? - I had sent two mails:
Version 1 and the "full featured" version 2.

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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Hi Roland,
Send both to me as attachments to:
adbryant@msn.com
I will make them available for download from the site below.
Dale Bryant
They never appeared on the list although GFA did give a download location.

http://gfawhelp.gfa.net
> When I send the mail I did not get an "echo" mail from the list!
> What is happend? Shall I send it again? - I had sent two mails:
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List Member UlliStemmeler@t-online.de (Ulli Stemmeler) wrote:
Hello,
thanks again for all the help to find if a drive is ready or not. I will =
use it=20
in my video-programm...

There=B4s another question to complete this program:

How can I find out the serial number of a CD, so I can identify it surely=
...
This question is interesting for me for audio-cds and data-cds as well.

In the actual version of my video-program I scan all hard drives for vide=
o=20
files, and I want it to do this with CDs and removable drives to. If my p=
rogram=20
recognizes the cds it will be able to re-find once found videos faster.
And I am interested in build a CD-Player as well, so this whole thing is=20
interesting for audio-cds as well for me. Recocnizing the present cd(s) I=
 could=20
use the "cdplayer.ini" of windows, where you can read and write informati=
ons=20
about an audio-cd. (title, artist, track names and so on).

If anybody knows, it would be helpful for me !

Sincerly,
Ulli Stemmeler
M=FCnster

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VID_VIEW.ZIP by Ulli Stemeler will let you view and play those .AVI, MOV and
MPG video files. GFA source code is included. Download it now form the
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List Member Jim Pennington <Jim@x-act.net> wrote:

"HELLO WORLD",

I feel like I'm back in Programming 101! The following test code doesn't
work on Win9x, but works fine with WINOS2. I'm printing text only to a
dot matrix or impact line printer here:

lpr$="LPT1:"       //Device may vary
OPEN "O",#80,lpr$
FOR i=1 TO 10
  PRINT #80,"This is line ";i
NEXT i
PRINT #80,CHR$(12);
CLOSE #80

What's happening here is that the CLOSE statement terminates output
immediately. If I put a long enough delay before closing (or wait for a
keypress), it works normally. No delay results in no output at all, and a
small delay results in partial output.

Is this a Win9x setup issue? Printer setup? Am I screwed?   :{

TIA,

Jim Pennington



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List Member Jim Pennington <Jim@x-act.net> wrote:

Steve, Mike,

I thought it was pretty funny that we have two almost simultaneous posts
asking (apparently) the same printer question! As I recall from my
experimentation, printing to "LPT1" (without the colon) left me with a
file somewhere named "LPT1".

Some more thoughts and observations on text printing:

lpr$="LPTn:"     //This may be any local or network printer
.
.
.
OPEN "O",lpr$
PRINT #80,...print some stuff here
CLOSE #80

When GFA is printing to "LPTn:", it appears to be using the Comm drivers
to access the port directly, bypassing the spooler (even though spooling
is enabled for that printer). The problem is that CLOSE #n appears to
call CloseComm() directly without allowing the Tx Queue to empty. This is
unacceptable when using high level Basic commands. There is no way to
check the queue when using the code above (and you shouldn't have to
anyway). There are times when we have 100 or more print jobs in the
spooler (the printer is 15 minutes behind the computer), so this is a
situation that just won't work. I'm still thinking (or hoping) that this
is a Windoze setup problem, but I haven't found it yet.

When printing to a network printer, however, it uses full document
spooling (even if you selected page spooling). That's preferable, I
suppose, but why give the option when setting up the printer?

I thought I'd be clever, and set up the local printer as a "network
printer" to see what it would do:

in the above example, lpr$="\\ENTRY\HPLASERJ"

Guess what? Other apps can print to that "network" printer, but not
GFA... it gives an "Access Denied" error! That same code will print to
any other printer on the network but it WON'T print _UNTIL_ you execute
the CLOSE command. That makes it a little difficult to make the print
routine universal if you have to close one printer after printing is
finished and another won't start printing until it's closed!   :{

All of the above may be the answer to Mike's question, but I don't have
the solution yet... anybody?

Jim Pennington

P.S. Dale, I'm going to try to finish cleaning up the notes on the
GPS/Serial port code and send them tonight.



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List Member Jim Pennington <Jim@x-act.net> wrote:

Mike, Steve,

OK... here's how it works...best as I can tell so far. At least my
programs work now, and I can move on.

Printing to "LPTn" prints via the spooler. Can be closed immediately.

Printing to "LPTn:" prints directly to the port. Don't close until queue
is empty. Probably best to use WriteComm directly and test the queue via
GetCommError/COMSTAT.

Printing to "PRN" prints to the default printer via the spooler. Can be
closed immediately.

Printing to "PRN:" doesn't exist.

Printing to "\\machine_name\printer_name" prints to a network printer via
the spooler. Printing does not begin until device is closed. Appears not
to work if "network printer" is actually a local printer. I need to
experiment with this some more.

If anyone has additions or corrections to this please let us all know.

ciao,

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List Member Micromiser Software <miser@cde.com> wrote:
Hi Mike,

I can't help you with the two Win98 driver files, but I can suggest that you
take the colon ":" out of "LPT1:" My softare won't print with the colon in.

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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
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I received form Rueben Carlson. Just too good not to share!
Dale

Subject: IF OPERATING SYSTEMS RAN THE AIRLINES


IF OPERATING SYSTEMS RAN THE AIRLINES
_______________________________________


UNIX Airways

Everyone brings one piece of the plane along when they come to the =
airport. They all go out on the runway and put the plane together piece =
by piece, arguing non-stop about what kind of plane they are supposed to =
be building.



Air DOS

Everybody pushes the airplane until it glides, then they jump on and let =
the plane coast until it hits the ground again. Then they push again, =
jump on again,and so on ...



Mac Airlines

All the stewards, captains, baggage handlers, and ticket agents look and =
act exactly the same.  Every time you ask questions about details, you =
are gently but firmly told that you don't need to know, don't want to =
know, and
everything will be done for you without your ever having to know, so =
just shut up.

Windows Air

The terminal is pretty and colorful, with friendly stewards, easy =
baggage check and boarding,=20
and a smooth take-off.  After about 10 minutes in the air, the plane =
explodes with no warning whatsoever.

Windows NT Air

Just like Windows Air, but costs more, uses much bigger planes, and =
takes out all the other aircraft within a 40-mile radius when it =
explodes.

Linux Air

Disgruntled employees of all the other OS airlines decide to start their =
own airline. They build the planes, ticket counters,  and pave the =
runways themselves. They charge a small fee to cover the cost of =
printing the ticket, but you
can also download and print the ticket yourself.  When you board the =
plane, you are given a seat, four bolts, a wrench and a copy of the =
seat-HOWTO.html.  Once settled, the fully adjustable seat is very =
comfortable, the plan leaves and arrives on time without a single =
problem, the in-flight meal is wonderful.  You try to tell customers of =
the other airlines about the great trip, but all they can say is, "You =
had to do what with the seat?"



Reuben E Carlsen
RMC
2/9-13 Rebecca Pde
Winston Hills NSW Aust 2153
Tel: +61 2 9674 7431
Fax: +61 2 9674 7278
Email: softprod@hartingdale.com.au

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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>I received form Rueben Carlson. Just too good not to =

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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Dale</FONT></DIV>
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building.<BR><BR><BR><BR>Air DOS<BR><BR>Everybody pushes the airplane =
until it=20
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...<BR><BR><BR><BR>Mac=20
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agents=20
look and act exactly the same.&nbsp; Every time you ask questions about =
details,=20
you are gently but firmly told that you don't need to know, don't want =
to know,=20
and<BR>everything will be done for you without your ever having to know, =
so just=20
shut up.<BR><BR>Windows Air<BR><BR>The terminal is pretty and colorful, =
with=20
friendly stewards, easy baggage check and boarding, <BR>and a smooth=20
take-off.&nbsp; After about 10 minutes in the air, the plane explodes =
with no=20
warning whatsoever.<BR><BR>Windows NT Air<BR><BR>Just like Windows Air, =
but=20
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aircraft within=20
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employees=20
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build the=20
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charge a=20
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download=20
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given a=20
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settled, the fully adjustable seat is very comfortable, the plan leaves =
and=20
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wonderful.&nbsp;=20
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but all=20
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<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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<DIV>RMC</DIV>
<DIV>2/9-13 Rebecca Pde</DIV>
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List Member "Eberhard Funck" <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de> wrote:
Hi Dale,

Why DWORD? Because statusbar of compiler said that the code (4 bytes) is
short
and quicker on 386er  computer. I don't know and I don't want know
the background, as long as my compiled application are running good.

Greetings

Eberhard



>From Dale:
>HI Eberhard,
>Why DWORD?
>>


>From me:
>> Hi Gurus,
>>
>> I can not grab on to the compiler article.
>> Since the day I had bought compiler and interpreter,
>> I work always with following compiler switches:
>> SizeOpt: fast
>> Alignement: DWORD
>> '
>> Only 386+
>> Only 80x87
>> Clear locals
>>
>> Thats all and I drive with these otions very well
>> with all my applications. The describtion-book I can not
>> understand.
>>
>> Thats all about this theme from me.
>>
>> Greetings
>>
>> Eberhard


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Hi all,

If we said, we can deliver an GFA Basic string at a API-function without
a pointer, than it's true until to a string length of < ~213 bytes.
It's better if we always deliver an pointer to a GFA Basic string with =
CHR$(0) at the end.

m$ =3D "You have placed a large amount of data in the clipboard. "
m$ =3D m$ + "This data may take up quite a bit of memory and could =
degrade system "
m$ =3D m$ + "performance if left on the clipboard. Would you like to =
leave this data on "
m$ =3D m$ + "the clipboard so that it will be available to other "
m$ =3D m$ + "applications?" + CHR$(0)
'
' this works very well:
~MessageBox (NULL, V:m$,"Information", MB_ICONQUESTION | MB_YESNO)
'
' here we get an GFA Basic error: "String too long"
' in compiled status we get a messagebox with a text, it is only 213 =
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~MessageBox (NULL, m$,"Information", MB_ICONQUESTION | MB_YESNO)


Greetings

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<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi all,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>If we said, we can deliver an GFA Basic =
string at a=20
API-function without</FONT></DIV>
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string length=20
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pointer to a=20
GFA Basic string with CHR$(0) at the end.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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placed a large=20
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may take up=20
quite a bit of memory and could degrade system &quot;<BR>m$ =3D m$ +=20
&quot;performance if left on the clipboard. Would you like to leave this =
data on=20
&quot;<BR>m$ =3D m$ + &quot;the clipboard so that it will be available =
to other=20
&quot;<BR>m$ =3D m$ + &quot;applications?&quot; + =
CHR$(0)<BR>'</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial size=3D2>' this works very=20
well:<BR>~MessageBox (NULL, V:m$,&quot;Information&quot;, =
MB_ICONQUESTION |=20
MB_YESNO)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial size=3D2>'<BR>' here we get an =
GFA Basic=20
error: &quot;String too long&quot;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial size=3D2>' in compiled status we =
get a=20
messagebox with a text, it is only 213 bytes long.<BR>~MessageBox (NULL, =

m$,&quot;Information&quot;, MB_ICONQUESTION | MB_YESNO)<BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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List Member Vogel Michael <vo@schoeller.at> wrote:

Does anybody know a help compiler which handles BIG help files (large RTF
and many BMPs) ??

I use the HC31 from my Borland Pascal 7.0 CD, but when my files grow up, I
just get "out of memory" from the DOS-program !


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List Member "Roland Walter" <roland@rowalt.de> wrote:

> Does anybody know a help compiler which handles BIG help files (large RTF
> and many BMPs) ??
> 
> I use the HC31 from my Borland Pascal 7.0 CD, but when my files grow up, I
> just get "out of memory" from the DOS-program !

Look vor HCP.EXE + HCP.ERR or just for HCP. This is the "Protected
Mode Help Compiler" which You can run in a Window. I have compiled
MB-sized help files with it.
You can find this compiler at several places in internet. Also I had
made a (german) introduction for making help files as a help file.
Inside this help file is the HCP compiler. You can extract it to disk
by clicking a button (was linked as a so-called baggage file).
Look here:       http://www.rowalt.de/gfabasic/

Bye, Roland

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
At 09:20 AM 13/09/99 +0200, you wrote:
>List Member "Roland Walter" <roland@rowalt.de> wrote:
>
>> Does anybody know a help compiler which handles BIG help files (large RTF
>> and many BMPs) ??
>> 
>> I use the HC31 from my Borland Pascal 7.0 CD, but when my files grow up, I
>> just get "out of memory" from the DOS-program !
>
>Look vor HCP.EXE + HCP.ERR or just for HCP. This is the "Protected
>Mode Help Compiler" which You can run in a Window. I have compiled
>MB-sized help files with it.
>You can find this compiler at several places in internet. Also I had
>made a (german) introduction for making help files as a help file.
>Inside this help file is the HCP compiler. You can extract it to disk
>by clicking a button (was linked as a so-called baggage file).
>Look here:       http://www.rowalt.de/gfabasic/
>
>Bye, Roland
>


If Roland's reply doesn't do it, I have several possibles that might.
I have little experience with them, tho, so can't really be much help.
I have one that works from a text file, but no idea of it's capacity.
<G>
TomR.

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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Hi Mcihael,
I use HC505(extended)  for the GFAWHELP file when compiling for WIN31. If
you can't find it let me know and I will attach it.  Look at
http://HELPMASTER.COM for almost anything to do with Windows help files.
Dale

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> List Member Vogel Michael <vo@schoeller.at> wrote:
>
> Does anybody know a help compiler which handles BIG help files (large RTF
> and many BMPs) ??
>
> I use the HC31 from my Borland Pascal 7.0 CD, but when my files grow up, I
> just get "out of memory" from the DOS-program !
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List Member Rainer_und_Silvia@t-online.de (Rainer Henke) wrote:
Hy everyone

Can everyone tell me the exactly adress how I can find the GFAWHELP File to the 
internet?

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List Member "Georg Veichtlbauer" <veichtlbauer@gmx.at> wrote:
For which OS do you want to compile your help-file? When compiling for Win98
or Win95 with at least IE4, I would recommend the HTML Help File Compiler by
Microsoft. In my opinion, its much easier to use than the old compilers
(even those for Windows)...

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List Member "Georg Veichtlbauer" <veichtlbauer@gmx.at> wrote:
VERY simple ... (dont you think, Dale? <G>)

Simply go to: http://www.gfawhelp.gfa.net (which is the WHelp homepage...)


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List Member UlliStemmeler@t-online.de (Ulli Stemmeler) wrote:

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Hello,

Dale recommended me to ask Roland Walter or Eberhard Funck in this specia=
l case.

In the attachment you find a routine, doing 2 things:
 - scanning hard drives for certain types of files, making a string-array=
 of=20
what=B4s found an then
 - converting all the file names to win95-long-file-names. And that=B4s w=
here the=20
problem is, sometimes the routine isn=B4t getting the name but a lots of =
CHR$(0)=20
in the result string(s). To me it seems that the problem is caused by the=
 system=20
and not by the routine, because the errors don=B4t happen always on the s=
ame=20
place. (Maybe it=B4s my computer and the errors don=B4t happen on every s=
ystem).
Maybe I should use another routine to get the long filenames ?
Can anybody tell me what=B4s happening or how to resolve the problem ?

Sincerely,
Ulli Stemmeler,
M=FCnster/Germany
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List Member S.Baunack@ifw-dresden.de wrote:
Does anyone has experience with a NI-488 GPIB interface card under GFA
Basic?
The manufacturer of the card supports only Microsoft C/C++, Win32 Borland
C/C++ and Microsoft Visual Basic.
In other environment, a direct entry is necessary.

Regards
Stefan Baunack

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List Member Vogel Michael <vo@schoeller.at> wrote:
still for the good old Win 3.1

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> Gesendet: 	Montag, 13. September 1999 23:36
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> Betreff: 	Re: [gfabasic] HELP Compiler 
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> List Member "Georg Veichtlbauer" <veichtlbauer@gmx.at> wrote:
> For which OS do you want to compile your help-file? When compiling for
> Win98
> or Win95 with at least IE4, I would recommend the HTML Help File Compiler
> by
> Microsoft. In my opinion, its much easier to use than the old compilers
> (even those for Windows)...
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List Member "Eberhard Funck" <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de> wrote:
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Hallo Ulli,

I have run your LST-file and make some correctures.
These you find in the LST-file as attachment in the first lines.

Greetings

Eberhard



Hello,

Dale recommended me to ask Roland Walter or Eberhard Funck in this specia=
l
case.

In the attachment you find a routine, doing 2 things:
- scanning hard drives for certain types of files, making a string-array =
of
what=B4s found an then
- converting all the file names to win95-long-file-names. And that=B4s wh=
ere
the
problem is, sometimes the routine isn=B4t getting the name but a lots of
CHR$(0)
in the result string(s). To me it seems that the problem is caused by the
system
and not by the routine, because the errors don=B4t happen always on the s=
ame
place. (Maybe it=B4s my computer and the errors don=B4t happen on every s=
ystem).
Maybe I should use another routine to get the long filenames ?
Can anybody tell me what=B4s happening or how to resolve the problem ?

Sincerely,
Ulli Stemmeler,
M=FCnster/Germany

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' Eberhard says:
' 1. Eleminate in Proc "search_all_files" all SPACE$(260)
' 2. Change in Function "GetShortFileName$" STRING$(260, 0) to =
SPACE$(260)
' 3. Change in Function "GetLongFileName$" STRING$(260, 0) to =
SPACE$(260)
'
' I hope that's all. At my system, no error occur.
'
OPENW #1
search_all_files("gif|jpg")  //---------> just to get "many" files. "*" =
would be too much
exit
CLOSEW #1

PROCEDURE exit
  DO
    GETEVENT
  UNTIL MENU(1) =3D 4
  //REPEAT
  //UNTIL MOUSEK =3D 0 AND INKEY$ =3D ""
  //PRINT "Press mouse button or key"
  //REPEAT
  //UNTIL MOUSEK > 0  OR INKEY$ <> ""
  CLOSEW #1
  EDIT
RETURN

> PROCEDURE search_all_files(suffix$)
  LOCAL i,problem,test$,drives$,check%,check$
  drives$ =3D @find_drives$(FALSE)        //------------> find out which =
drives are actually available (without "A" and "B")
  DO
    check% =3D INSTR(drives$,"|")
    EXIT IF check% <=3D 1
    check$ =3D LEFT$(drives$,check% - 1)
    drives$ =3D MID$(drives$,check% + 1)
    TITLEW #1,"scanning drive " + check$
    PAUSE 10
    CLR files_on_drive
    find_files(check$,suffix$)

  LOOP
  TITLEW #1,"Search terminated"
  CLS GETNEAREST(0,120,120)
  PRINT AT(1,0)"Building array"// + SPACE$(100)
  make_array(found_files$,found_files$())
  CLS
  TITLEW #1,STR$(found_files) + " files found. Getting long names..."
  FOR i =3D 0 TO DIM?(found_files$()) - 1
    test$ =3D @GetLongName$(found_files$(i))
    TROFF
    IF test$ =3D ""
      PRINT "CONVERT-PROBLEM with file # ";i + 1;": ";found_files$(i)// =
+ SPACE$(100)
      PRINT "the string of the longfile-name is empty..."
      PRINT STRING$(40,"-")
      INC problem

    ELSE   IF INSTR(test$,CHR$(0))
      PRINT "CHR(0)-PROBLEM with file # ";i + 1;": ";found_files$(i)// + =
SPACE$(100)
      PRINT "The result of converting would be: ";test$
      PRINT STRING$(40,"-")
      INC problem
    ELSE
      found_files$(i) =3D test$
      //      PRINT i + 1;": ";found_files$(i)
    ENDIF
    IF i =3D found_files - 1
      PRINT "# ";i + 1;"/last file : ";found_files$(i);""
    ENDIF
  NEXT i
  TITLEW #1,"Search is finished..."
  PRINT found_files;" files found..."
  PRINT problem;" x problems while getting long names..."
RETURN
> PROCEDURE find_files(path$,suffix$)
  // show$ =3D @GetLongName$(path$)  // I muted this to avoid more calls =
for long file names...
  IF LEN(show$) > 50
    //  show$ =3D LEFT$(show$,24) + ".." + RIGHT$(show$,24)
  ENDIF
  TITLEW #1,"Scanning: " + path$
  IF MOUSEK =3D 2 THEN GOSUB exit
  LOCAL attr|,ch_suffix$,check$,check%,e%,ordner,ordner$,test$,u_ordner$
  suffix$ =3D UPPER$(suffix$)
  IF LEN(path$) =3D 1
    path$ =3D path$ + ":"
  ENDIF
  IF RIGHT$(path$) <> "\"
    path$ =3D path$ + "\"
  ENDIF

  IF fgetdata_definiert! =3D FALSE
    TYPE dta:
    - CHAR *21  fs_donttouch$
    - BYTE  fs_attr
    - CARD  fs_time
    - CARD  fs_date
    - LONG  fs_size
    - CHAR *14  fs_name$
    ENDTYPE
    fgetdata_definiert! =3D TRUE
  ENDIF
  //
  dta% =3D FGETDTA() // stores the address of //   DTA in a%
  //
  e% =3D FSFIRST(path$ + "*.*",%11111)
  WHILE e% =3D> 0
    attr| =3D  {dta%}.fs_attr
    test$ =3D  {dta%}.fs_name$
    SELECT attr|
    CASE 16 TO 20
      IF test$ <> "." AND test$ <> ".."
        INC ordner
        ordner$ =3D ordner$ + path$ + test$ + "|"
      ENDIF
    CASE 0 TO 15,32 TO 38
      IF suffix$ =3D "*"
        INC found_files
        IF LEN(found_files$ + path$ + test$ + "|") > 32000
          PRINT AT(1,0)"Building array...       "
          make_array(found_files$,found_files$())
        ENDIF
        found_files$ =3D found_files$ + path$ + test$ + "|"
        PRINT AT(1,0)"Files found: ";found_files;"    "
      ELSE
        ch_suffix$ =3D suffix$ + "|"
        DO
          check% =3D INSTR(ch_suffix$,"|")
          EXIT IF check% <=3D 1
          check$ =3D LEFT$(ch_suffix$,check% - 1)
          ch_suffix$ =3D MID$(ch_suffix$,check% + 1)
          IF RIGHT$(test$,1 + LEN(check$)) =3D "." + check$
            INC found_files
            INC files_on_drive
            IF LEN(found_files$ + path$ + test$ + "|") > 32000
              PRINT AT(1,0)"Building array...      "
              make_array(found_files$,found_files$())
            ENDIF
            found_files$ =3D found_files$ + path$ + test$ + "|"
            PRINT AT(1,0)"Files found: ";found_files;"    "
            PRINT AT(1,1)"Files on drive ";LEFT$(path$);": =
";files_on_drive;"      "
            EXIT IF TRUE
          ELSE
          ENDIF
        LOOP
      ENDIF
    CASE 40
      //  PRINT AT(0,3) "Disk-Name: ";test$
      //  TITLEW #1,test$
    ENDSELECT
    e% =3D FSNEXT()
  WEND
  IF ordner > 0
    u_ordner$ =3D ordner$
    DO
      check% =3D INSTR(u_ordner$,"|")
      EXIT IF check% <=3D 1
      check$ =3D LEFT$(u_ordner$,check% - 1)
      u_ordner$ =3D MID$(u_ordner$,check% + 1)
      find_files(check$,suffix$)
    LOOP
  ENDIF
RETURN

> PROCEDURE make_array(VAR fr$,array$()) // makes an array out of a =
string with "|"-Separators. Clears root-file afterwards
  pro$ =3D "make_array(fr$,VAR array$())"
  LOCAL i,i,test$,mach$
  IF RIGHT$(fr$) <> "|"
    fr$ =3D fr$ + "|"
  ENDIF
  test$ =3D fr$
  REPEAT
    check =3D INSTR(test$,"|")
    IF check > 1
      INC i
      test$ =3D MID$(test$,check + 1)
    ENDIF
  UNTIL  check =3D< 1
  IF i > 0
    FOR j =3D 0 TO i - 1
      check =3D INSTR(fr$,"|")
      mach$ =3D LOWER$(LEFT$(fr$,check - 1))
      add_to_array(mach$,array$())
      fr$ =3D MID$(fr$,check + 1)
    NEXT j
    QSORT array$()
    CLR fr$
  ENDIF
RETURN

> FUNCTION     is_in_array(entry$,VAR wo%,array$())
  pro$ =3D "@is_in_array(entry$,VAR wo%,array$())"
  LOCAL i
  FOR i =3D 0 TO DIM?(array$()) - 1
    IF LOWER$(entry$) =3D LOWER$(array$(i))
      wo% =3D i
      RETURN TRUE
    ENDIF
  NEXT i
  RETURN FALSE
ENDFUNC

> PROCEDURE add_to_array(entry$,VAR array$())   // this makes it =
possible to have re-dimensions of string-arrays: it creates an array if =
it is new, and changes dimension every time beeing called later
  pro$ =3D "add_to_array(entry$,VAR array$())"
  LOCAL dim%,i
  dim% =3D DIM?(array$())
  IF dim% > 0
    DIM temp_array$(dim% + 1)
    FOR i =3D 0 TO dim% - 1
      temp_array$(i) =3D array$(i)
    NEXT i
    ERASE array$()
    DIM array$(dim%)
    FOR i =3D 0 TO dim%
      array$(i) =3D temp_array$(i)
    NEXT i
    INSERT array$(0) =3D entry$
    // QSORT array$()
    ERASE temp_array$()
  ELSE
    DIM array$(0)
    array$(0) =3D entry$
  ENDIF
RETURN

> PROCEDURE take_from_array(entry$,VAR array$()) // also with =
re-dimension: changes the dimension and deletes an array if it is to 0
  pro$ =3D "take_from_array(entry$,VAR array$())"
  LOCAL wo%,dim%,i
  IF @is_in_array(entry$,wo%,array$())
    DELETE array$(wo%)
    dim% =3D DIM?(array$())
    IF dim% - 1 =3D 0
      ERASE array$()
    ELSE
      DIM temp_array$(dim% - 1)
      FOR i =3D 0 TO dim% - 2
        temp_array$(i) =3D array$(i)
      NEXT i
      ERASE array$()
      DIM array$(dim% - 2)
      FOR i =3D 0 TO dim% - 2
        array$(i) =3D temp_array$(i)
      NEXT i
      ERASE temp_array$()
    ENDIF
  ENDIF
RETURN


> FUNCTION     fsel$(titel$,file_description$,suffix$) // This program =
works with long filenames... I got it from a Demo
  pro$ =3D "@fsel$(.....)"
  LOCAL test$
  DIM Filter$(2)
  OFN_LONGNAMES% =3D $00200000 //New Flag for DLG OPEN/SAVE: get and =
show long names
  Filter$(0) =3D file_description$,Filename$ =3D ""
  IF INSTR(suffix$,";")
    test$ =3D suffix$,suffix$ =3D ""
    REPEAT
      suffix$ =3D suffix$ + "*." + LEFT$(test$,INSTR(test$,";") - 1) + =
";"
      test$ =3D MID$(test$,INSTR(test$,";") + 1)
    UNTIL INSTR(test$,";") =3D 0
    suffix$ =3D suffix$ + "*." + test$
    Filter$(1) =3D suffix$
  ELSE
    IF suffix$ =3D ""
      suffix$ =3D "*"
    ENDIF
    Filter$(1) =3D "*." + suffix$
  ENDIF
  DLG OPEN DLG(1),OFN_PATHMUSTEXIST | OFN_FILEMUSTEXIST | =
OFN_HIDEREADONLY | OFN_LONGNAMES% ,titel$,"","*.*",Filter$(),Filename$
  ERASE Filter$()
  IF Filename$ =3D ""
    RETURN ""
  ELSE
    RETURN Filename$
  ENDIF
ENDFUNC
> FUNCTION     GetShortName$(LongName$)  //get short name of a long name
  pro$ =3D "@GetShortName$(LongName$)"
  IF LongName$ =3D ""
    RETURN ""
  ENDIF
  //LOCAL ShortName$=3DSTRING$(260,0),problem!
  LOCAL ShortName$ =3D SPACE$(260), problem!
  IF @check_filename(LongName$)
    LongName$ =3D _OEM$(LongName$)
    problem! =3D TRUE
  ENDIF
  LongName$ =3D LongName$ + CHR$(0)
  =
~INTR($21,_AX=3D$7160,_CL=3D1,_CH=3D0,_DS=3DHIWORD(V:LongName$),_SI=3DLOW=
ORD(V:LongName$),_ES=3DHIWORD(V:ShortName$),_DI=3DLOWORD(V:ShortName$))
  IF BTST(_FL,0) =3D FALSE  //Carry-Flag not set
    ShortName$ =3D CHAR{V:ShortName$}
    IF problem!
      RETURN _ANSI$(ShortName$)
    ELSE
      RETURN  ShortName$
    ENDIF
  ELSE
    RETURN ""
  ENDIF
ENDFUNC

> FUNCTION     GetLongName$(ShortName$)  //get long name of a short name
  pro$ =3D "@GetLongName$(ShortName$)"
  IF @check_filename(ShortName$)
    //  ShortName$ =3D _OEM$(ShortName$)
  ENDIF
  ShortName$ =3D ShortName$ + CHR$(0)
  LongName$ =3D SPACE$ (260) //STRING$(260,0)
  =
~INTR($21,_AX=3D$7160,_CL=3D2,_CH=3D0,_DS=3DHIWORD(V:ShortName$),_SI=3DLO=
WORD(V:ShortName$),_ES=3DHIWORD(V:LongName$),_DI=3DLOWORD(V:LongName$))
  LongName$ =3D CHAR{V:LongName$}
  ch_long$ =3D LongName$
  ch_short$ =3D ShortName$
  IF @check_filename(LongName$)
    LongName$ =3D _ANSI$(LongName$)
  ENDIF
  IF BTST(_FL,0) =3D FALSE  //Carry-Flag not set
    RETURN LongName$
  ELSE
    RETURN ""
  ENDIF
ENDFUNC

> FUNCTION     check_filename(text$)   // a control-routine to =
understand filenames with letters like "=E4", "=E4" or "=F1"
  pro$ =3D "@check_filename(text$)"
  // this function checks filename for things like =E4 =F6 =FC and so =
on...
  LOCAL i%,test$
  FOR i% =3D 123 TO 255
    test$ =3D CHR$(i%)
    IF INSTR(text$,test$) AND ASC(test$) <> 126 // chr$(126)=3D ~

      RETURN TRUE
    ENDIF
  NEXT i%
  RETURN FALSE
ENDFUNC
> FUNCTION     is(file$)            // in case of EXIST(file$) but for =
long filenames
  pro$ =3D "@is(file$)"
  IF file$ <> ""
    file$ =3D @GetShortName$(file$)
    IF EXIST(file$) OR EXIST(_OEM$(file$))
      RETURN TRUE
    ELSE
      //   MESSAGE "Wrong filename: " + file$,"Can=B4t find =
file...",MB_OK,ok%
      RETURN FALSE
    ENDIF
  ELSE
    // MESSAGE "Empty filename !","Can=B4t find file...",MB_OK,ok%
    RETURN FALSE
  ENDIF
ENDFUNC

> PROCEDURE tracing
  IF INSTR(TRACE$,"TRACE") =3D 0 AND INSTR(TRACE$,"NEXT") =3D 0 AND =
INSTR(TRACE$,"// no trace") =3D 0
    PRINT AT(0,tracing)TRACE$ + SPACE$(100)
    INC tracing
    IF tracing =3D 25
      CLR tracing
    ENDIF
  ENDIF
RETURN

> FUNCTION     drive_type$(drive$)
  j% =3D ASC(drive$) - 65
  DLL #1, "kernel"
    DECL  WORD GetDriveType( w )
  ENDDLL

  SELECT ^GetDriveType( j% )
  CASE DRIVE_REMOVABLE
    erg$ =3D "disc or removable drive"
  CASE DRIVE_FIXED
    erg$ =3D "hard disk"
  CASE DRIVE_REMOTE
    erg$ =3D "CD"
  DEFAULT
    erg$ =3D "doesn=B4t exist!"
  ENDSELECT
  is_ready! =3D @CheckDrive(drive$)
  IF is_ready! =3D FALSE
    erg$ =3D erg$ + " , not ready"
  ENDIF
  FREEDLL 1
  RETURN erg$
ENDFUNC
> FUNCTION     CheckDrive(mask$)       // thanks to Joe Hurst for this =
routine !!
  IF LEN(mask$) =3D 1
    mask$ =3D mask$ + ":\*.*"
  ENDIF
  LOCAL dtasave$,success!
  LOCAL dta%=3DFGETDTA()
  ~SetErrorMode(1)
  TRY
    success! =3D FALSE
    dtasave$ =3D PEEK$(dta%,44)
    IF FSFIRST(mask$,63) >=3D 0 THEN
      POKE$ dta%,dtasave$
      ~SetErrorMode(0)
      RETURN TRUE
    ENDIF
    IF DFREE(ASC(LEFT$(UPPER$(mask$))) - 64) > 0 THEN success! =3D TRUE
    POKE$ dta%,dtasave$
    ~SetErrorMode(0)
    RETURN success!
  CATCH
  ~SetErrorMode(0)
  RETURN FALSE
ENDFUNC

> FUNCTION     find_drives$(disc_drive!) //disc_drive!=3Dtrue > starts =
from "A", =3Dfalse > starts from "C"
  LOCAL i,test$,dr$,drives$,start
  IF disc_drive!
    start =3D ASC("A")
  ELSE
    start =3D ASC("C")
  ENDIF
  FOR i =3D start TO ASC("Z")
    dr$ =3D CHR$(i)
    //    PRINT "checking drive ";dr$
    test$ =3D @drive_type$(dr$)
    IF INSTR(test$,"doesn=B4t exist") =3D 0 AND INSTR(test$,"not ready") =
=3D 0
      // drives$ =3D drives$ + dr$ + ">" + test$ + "|" // with =
type-definition (cd or hard disk etc.)
      drives$ =3D drives$ + dr$ + "|"
    ENDIF
  NEXT i
  RETURN LEFT$(drives$,LEN(drives$) - 1) + "|"
ENDFUNC

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List Member "B.M.C.S." <bmcs@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
Hi Stefan

What you want to do can be done, but it is not simple (even with C++ or VB).

First you need to understand some fairly complex calls to DLL's, then you
must obtain the appropriate version of NI's "gpib-32.dll", which is included
with all the NI-488.2 software kits. You can use direct entry (not under
NT), but I am too dumb and lazy, so I wouldn't even try.

The best suggestion I can offer you is to check out page 693 of NI's 1999
Measurement & Automation Catalogue or NI's web site http://www.natinst.com .

Regards
Dave Barton


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> Subject: [gfabasic] NI-488 GPIB interface
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> List Member S.Baunack@ifw-dresden.de wrote:
> Does anyone has experience with a NI-488 GPIB interface card under GFA
> Basic?
> The manufacturer of the card supports only Microsoft C/C++, Win32 Borland
> C/C++ and Microsoft Visual Basic.
> In other environment, a direct entry is necessary.
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> Regards
> Stefan Baunack
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List Member "Roland Walter" <roland@rowalt.de> wrote:

> In the attachment you find a routine, doing 2 things:
> - scanning hard drives for certain types of files, making a string-array of
> whats found an then
> - converting all the file names to win95-long-file-names. 

I think there is a much more simple way for this job.
Jou had used older functions to list the directory. Since Windows95
the 16 bit API (the 32 bit too) contains 3 new replacement functions
for the job You like to do.  (FindFirstFile, FindNextFile, FindClose)
These functions retrieve short AND long filenames of all files in a
directory so that You will not need to determine them separately.
The attachement contains an example listing showing nearly all
what You can do with the 3 functions. Sorry for all not german
speaking people but momently I do not have the time for a
translation. I hope the small listing is simple enough...

Also I remember that You simply can use the file functions which
the normal 16 bit Windows95 API provides. Most of these functions
are able to work with long names without any tricks.

Bye, Roland




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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
1) can GFA-W generate a TSR?
2) can GFA-W monitor ALL read/write disk activity?
3) If 2) is true, can GFA-W identify the reader/writer & destination?

I am insufficiently versed in "C" to understand what I find.

Something is going sour on my P-100.  Eudora is hanging up the modem,
but is leaving the comport open.  I've replaced Eudora & all comm modules
I can identify.  Have the latest McAfee, does NOT find anything.

A pentium has a ton of registers... does anybody have a comprehensive
list of them with explanations & descriptions to access them?

Would truely appreciate help on these.

TomR.

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List Member Rainer_und_Silvia@t-online.de (Rainer Henke) wrote:
Georg Veichtlbauer schrieb:
> List Member "Georg Veichtlbauer" <veichtlbauer@gmx.at> wrote:
> VERY simple ... (dont you think, Dale? <G>)
>
> Simply go to: http://www.gfawhelp.gfa.net (which is the WHelp homepage...)
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Hy Georg

thank you for adress. It's simple.

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List Member "B.M.C.S." <bmcs@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
The information Roland Walter recently posted to the mailing list regardi=
ng
long filenames has been very interesting & useful. Thanks Roland!

I would like to ask for a couple more "bits" of information:

What is the English translation of the following phrase:

"Ersatz f=FCr diverse Einzelvariablen, deren Inhalt hier uninteressant wa=
r..."

The FIND_DATA structure for krnl386.exe seems to be somewhat different fr=
om
the true 32 bit WIN32_FIND_DATA structure. So is it possible to extract t=
he
file size, date & time using functions FindFirstFile, FindNextFile and
FindClose used in Roland's most recent example?

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List Member UlliStemmeler@t-online.de (Ulli Stemmeler) wrote:
Hi,

once again I would like to ask if anybody knows how to find out serial nu=
mbers=20
of cds (to identify them).
I have no idea to begin this, so I depend on help.

This would be sinful to build an audio-cd-player-program.

Anybody out there who can help me ?

Sincerely

Ulli Stemmeler
M=FCnster/Germany

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List Member David Clouter <DaveClouter@compuserve.com> wrote:
Dear Ulli

in the old Atari days, the serial number was a 24-bit entry in the boot
sector (floppies and hard drives).

If the BIOS still looks at this for CDs, it is at offset &h08-0A in the
bpb.  Probably not still true, but may be worth a try, if you have not
already.

Dave
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List Member "Eberhard Funck" <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de> wrote:
Hi Dave,
I answer:

  TYPE FIND_DATA: /* structure from example

  - LONG Attribute             'bitweise ver-ODER-te
                                            'Dateiattribute
(FILE_ATTRIBUTE_...)
  - CHAR*40 Dummy$      'Ersatz f=FCr diverse Einzelvariablen,
                                            'deren Inhalt hier uninteress=
ant
war...
  - CHAR*260 FileName$               'langer Dateiname
  - CHAR*14 AlternateFileName$  'alter DOS-Dateiname
  ENDTYPE
  '
  TYPE FIND_DATA: /* original structure
  - DWORD    FileAttributes

20 x 4 bytes =3D 40 bytes --> CHAR*40 Dummy$
' Roland means that following 40 bytes are
' not interesting for his example, therefore he put them
' in the dummy$ variable.

  - DWORD    lowCreationTime, highCreationTime
  - DWORD    lowLastAccessTime, highLastAccessTime
  - DWORD    lowLastWriteTime, highLastWriteTime
  - DWORD    FileSizeHigh, FileSizeLow
  - DWORD    dwReserved0, dwReserved1

  - CHAR*260 LongFileName$
  - CHAR*14   DOSFileName$
  ENDTYPE

Greetings

Eberhard



>List Member "B.M.C.S." <bmcs@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>The information Roland Walter recently posted to the mailing list regard=
ing
>long filenames has been very interesting & useful. Thanks Roland!
>
>I would like to ask for a couple more "bits" of information:
>
>What is the English translation of the following phrase:
>
>"Ersatz f=FCr diverse Einzelvariablen, deren Inhalt hier uninteressant
war..."
>
>The FIND_DATA structure for krnl386.exe seems to be somewhat different f=
rom
>the true 32 bit WIN32_FIND_DATA structure. So is it possible to extract =
the
>file size, date & time using functions FindFirstFile, FindNextFile and
>FindClose used in Roland's most recent example?
>
>Regards,
>Dave Barton


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List Member BDD <BrentDeck@compuserve.com> wrote:
// msdemo2.gfw  B.deck  9/99
//
// Here's a question about a flashing cursor in WIN95.
// When the program below runs in Win 3.1, no cursor flash is
// present as the mouse moves around the screen. Line is drawn
// in Procedure review, called from the callback function ppx1.
//
// But in WIN 95, the cursor flashes with each drawn line.
// This can be reduced by using SHOWM,
// as in review2, to update the mouse immediately after
// the line is drawn. But then the mouse flashes in Win 3.1.
//
// Any ideas on the reason for the flash?
// Better solution?
//
// Thanks, =

//
// Brent
//

views
DO
  GETEVENT
LOOP UNTIL exflag
CLOSEW #1
END

PROCEDURE views
  fg% =3D $02000000
  bkg% =3D $02ffffff
  OPENW #1
  CB WIN(1),0 TO -1,ppx1()
  FULLW #1
  x0& =3D _X / 2
  y0& =3D _Y / 2
  RGBCOLOR bkg%,bkg%
  PBOX 0,0,_X,_Y
  SETMOUSE x0&,y0&
RETURN

PROCEDURE ppx1(hw&,m&,w&,l%) //the window
  TRY
    SELECT m&
    CASE WM_MOUSEMOVE
      mx& =3D LOWORD(l%)
      my& =3D HIWORD(l%)
      review      // better version for Win 3.1
      'review2   // better version for Win 95
    CASE WM_CLOSE
      exflag =3D TRUE
    ENDSELECT
  CATCH
RETURN

PROCEDURE review
  RGBCOLOR  bkg%
  LINE x0&,y0&,mx1&,my1&   // erase previous line with bachground color
  RGBCOLOR  fg%
  mx1& =3D mx&
  my1& =3D my&
  LINE x0&,y0&,mx1&,my1&   // redraw
RETURN
PROCEDURE review2
  RGBCOLOR  bkg%
  LINE x0&,y0&,mx1&,my1&   // erase previous line with bachground color
  SHOWM
  RGBCOLOR  fg%
  mx1& =3D mx&
  my1& =3D my&
  LINE x0&,y0&,mx1&,my1&   // redraw
  SHOWM
  HIDEM
  HIDEM
RETURN



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List Member BDD <BrentDeck@compuserve.com> wrote:
> 1) can GFA-W generate a TSR?

Tom,

I'll take a shot at this one.

If you mean can GFA trap interrupts and return from them the answer is no=
, =

unless you link some C or assembler to your program. =


Borland C, for instance, has =

        interupt modifier to designate a function as an interrupt handler=
, =

  and
        dos_set_vect() ..... to redirect BIOS and DOS vectors to your
interrupt handler

Any function you create with the interupt designator will return with the=

Intel IRET (return from interrupt) instruction.
It will also save and resore registers.

GFA (Win or DOS) has no assembler, and does not do IRET. So it can't get
the interrupt, and it cant return.

GFA-W can trap trap windows messages only.

Brent


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List Member Micromiser Software <miser@cde.com> wrote:
I would like to second the motion for help on the blinking cursor problem.
It seems that any continuous graphics either with Draw, Line, Plot, etc., or
"Text" cause the cursor to blink. So far I've solved this by removing the
graphics! For instance, the win3.1 version shows HH:MM:SS on the main page,
but the W95 version only shows HH:MM to avoid the blinking cursor once a second.

-----
Steve Thornton

At 01:49 PM 9/17/99 -0400, you wrote:
>List Member BDD <BrentDeck@compuserve.com> wrote:
>// msdemo2.gfw  B.deck  9/99
>//
>// Here's a question about a flashing cursor in WIN95.
>// When the program below runs in Win 3.1, no cursor flash is
>// present as the mouse moves around the screen. Line is drawn
>// in Procedure review, called from the callback function ppx1.
>//
>// But in WIN 95, the cursor flashes with each drawn line.
>// This can be reduced by using SHOWM,
>// as in review2, to update the mouse immediately after
>// the line is drawn. But then the mouse flashes in Win 3.1.
>//
>// Any ideas on the reason for the flash?
>// Better solution?
>//
>// Thanks, 
>//
>// Brent
>//
>
>views
>DO
>  GETEVENT
>LOOP UNTIL exflag
>CLOSEW #1
>END
>
>PROCEDURE views
>  fg% = $02000000
>  bkg% = $02ffffff
>  OPENW #1
>  CB WIN(1),0 TO -1,ppx1()
>  FULLW #1
>  x0& = _X / 2
>  y0& = _Y / 2
>  RGBCOLOR bkg%,bkg%
>  PBOX 0,0,_X,_Y
>  SETMOUSE x0&,y0&
>RETURN
>
>PROCEDURE ppx1(hw&,m&,w&,l%) //the window
>  TRY
>    SELECT m&
>    CASE WM_MOUSEMOVE
>      mx& = LOWORD(l%)
>      my& = HIWORD(l%)
>      review      // better version for Win 3.1
>      'review2   // better version for Win 95
>    CASE WM_CLOSE
>      exflag = TRUE
>    ENDSELECT
>  CATCH
>RETURN
>
>PROCEDURE review
>  RGBCOLOR  bkg%
>  LINE x0&,y0&,mx1&,my1&   // erase previous line with bachground color
>  RGBCOLOR  fg%
>  mx1& = mx&
>  my1& = my&
>  LINE x0&,y0&,mx1&,my1&   // redraw
>RETURN
>PROCEDURE review2
>  RGBCOLOR  bkg%
>  LINE x0&,y0&,mx1&,my1&   // erase previous line with bachground color
>  SHOWM
>  RGBCOLOR  fg%
>  mx1& = mx&
>  my1& = my&
>  LINE x0&,y0&,mx1&,my1&   // redraw
>  SHOWM
>  HIDEM
>  HIDEM
>RETURN
>
>
>
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Merci, Brent
I'm gonna look for a book on assembler.  I used to write *.asm files in
80A for the RatShak.  I want to watch ALL read/write activity & a TSR is
the only way I know it can be effective.  2 objectives... 1 is for any
virul or trojan activity, of course.  2nd is for an installer to write a 
file that lists absolutely everything done by the install.  I know this
can be done, just how in GFA-W is the question.
<G>
TomR.



At 01:52 PM 17/09/99 -0400, you wrote:
>List Member BDD <BrentDeck@compuserve.com> wrote:
>> 1) can GFA-W generate a TSR?
>
>Tom,
>
>I'll take a shot at this one.
>
>If you mean can GFA trap interrupts and return from them the answer is no, 
>unless you link some C or assembler to your program. 
>
>Borland C, for instance, has 
>        interupt modifier to designate a function as an interrupt handler, 
>  and
>        dos_set_vect() ..... to redirect BIOS and DOS vectors to your
>interrupt handler
>
>Any function you create with the interupt designator will return with the
>Intel IRET (return from interrupt) instruction.
>It will also save and resore registers.
>
>GFA (Win or DOS) has no assembler, and does not do IRET. So it can't get
>the interrupt, and it cant return.
>
>GFA-W can trap trap windows messages only.
>
>Brent
>
>
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
17/09/99 10:06:59 PM   guidance   1709xx1-

Hey

Roland knows... does anybody else?  I'd like to add a menu to
FileManager & MyComputer, depending on the O/S in use.

>From this menu, I'd like to set parameters for a directory
print appl... how to sort, perhaps font, etc.  I have the 
basis for all of this if I can arrange addition of the menu.

Ok - FileMgr already has part of it installed - entries in 
winfile.ini.  Explorer/MyComputer probably has entries in the
registry.  I haven't look into this aspect yet - I am looking 
at the addition of the menu at the moment.

I would also like to try my hand at modifying Roland's gfaw.exe
to use it on other sppls, such as Windows write.exe to get it to 
come up full screen, etc.

Please?

TomR.

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List Member "EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" <JoeHurst@snafu.de> wrote:
Hi,
there is an easy solution:
Why don't do check for the Windows-Release to use two different procedures,
depending on that result?

erg&=GetVersion()
'wver$=Str$(Lobyte(erg&))+"."+Str$(Hibyte(erg&))
'Alert 1,wver$,1,"OK",dummy&
If Hibyte(erg&)>11 Then
  w95NT!=True
Else
  w95NT!=False
EndIf

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List Member BDD <BrentDeck@compuserve.com> wrote:
>>>
Why don't do check for the Windows-Release to use two different procedure=
s,
depending on that result?
<<<


Joe,

The problem is that the procedure I use for W95 is an unsatisfactory hack=
.
It restores the cursor to the screen immediately after the system hides i=
t,
so it reduces the flash significantly, but it doesnt eliminate it.

Brent
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List Member "EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" <JoeHurst@snafu.de> wrote:
Hi, out there all over the GFA-world!

Is there anybody out there who owns that piece of text which describes the
UU-format (RFC xxxx)? (I still have Mime, but not UU in my collection). Anywhere
I search in the RFC-databases for UU AND ecncode AND decode, I get a hundred of
hits - too much to search for me.

You, who are the lucky one who owns it: would you be so kind to send it to me as
PM/email?

Thank you very much, anywho you are...

Greetings,

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
At 09:17 PM 19/09/99 +0200, you wrote:
>List Member "EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" <JoeHurst@snafu.de> wrote:
>Hi, out there all over the GFA-world!
>
>Is there anybody out there who owns that piece of text which describes the
>UU-format (RFC xxxx)? (I still have Mime, but not UU in my collection).
Anywhere
>I search in the RFC-databases for UU AND ecncode AND decode, I get a hundred of
>hits - too much to search for me.
>
>You, who are the lucky one who owns it: would you be so kind to send it to
me as
>PM/email?
>
>Thank you very much, anywho you are...
>
>Greetings,
>
>  Joe Hurst (Please remember my new email-adress: info@jhurst.de)
>
>

Date: Wed, 09 Apr 1997 13:04:11 +0100
From: jim <j.cameron@physiology.ucl.ac.uk>
To: webmaster@wotsit.demon.co.uk

===== UUENCODE ======

uuencode is a utility designed to enable arbitrary binary files to be
transmitted using text-only media such as email. It does this by
encoding the files in such a way that the encoded file contains only
printable characters.

(IMPORTANT Note: this file is the result of an afternoon's hacking by
myself. I make no guarantees as to its completeness and accuracy. I have
coded my own uuencode and uudecode programs which haven't let me down
yet)

The uuencode algorithm hinges around a 3-byte-to-4-byte  (8-bit to 6-bit
data) encoding to convert all data to printable characters. To perform
this encoding read in 3 bytes from the file to be encoded whose binary
representation is

  a7a6a5a4a3a2a1a0 b7b6b5b4b3b2b1b0 c7c6c5c4c3c2c1c0

and convert them into 4 bytes with values in the range 0-63 as follows:

  0 0 a7a6a5a4a3a2 0 0 a1a0b7b6b5b4 0 0 b3b2b1b0c7c6 0 0 c5c4c3c2c1c0

Then convert these bytes to printable characters by adding 0x20 (32).
EXCEPTION: if you end up with a zero byte it should be converted to 0x60
(back-quote '`') rather than 0x20 (space ' ').

So if you read 3 bytes from the file as follows: 14 0F A8 (hex) i.e.

  00010100 00001111 10101000

your 4 bytes output should be 25 60 5E 48 ("%`^H"). The intermediate 4
bytes in this case were

  00000101 00000000 00111110 00101000

Note that the zero byte has been translated to 0x60 instead of 0x20. The
body of a uuencoded file therefore only contains the characters 0x21 '!'
to 0x60 '`', which are all printable and capable of being transmitted by
email.
(Note: this of course means that uuencoded files are slightly more than
33% longer than the originals. uuencoding text-only files is redundant
and a silly thing to do. Standard and sensible practice is to compress
the files first using a standard compression utility and then to
uuencode them).

In addition, the start of the encoding is marked by the line "start
<mode> <filename>", where
  <mode> consists of 3 octal digits which are the Unix mode of the file,
and
  <filename> is the original filename of the file encoded.

The end of the encoding is marked by the line "end".

The first character of each line contains the line length in bytes *in
the original file*, encoded in the same way as an ordinary byte i.e.
line length 0->0x60, all other lengths add 0x20 to convert to printable
characters. Line lengths vary from 0 to 45 (which encodes to 'M'; this
is why lines in a uuencoded file all start with an M), which is a line
length of 61 characters (including the length character) in the encoded
file. This is a nice safe length to transmit via email.

Lines in the encoded file are always a multiple of 4 + 1 characters
long; this sometimes means that 1 or 2 bytes are thrown away at the end
of the decoding.

(Note: I can't see any reason why lines shouldn't be an arbitrary
length, and don't know whether the proper definition disallows this.
I've never seen a uuencoded file where any line apart from the last one
wasn't 'M' followed by 60 characters, though)

To decode, simply perform the inverse of the encoding algorithm.

===== SAMPLE CODE =====

I include here the C source code to a small uuencode and uudecode
utility I coded myself. It isn't very sophisticated and probably not
very complete, but it does its job, and is very useful for my PC where I
don't have access to the standard Unix stuff. It took me about half an
hour to write, and another hour or so to iron out the obvious bugs. It
works quite happily under DOS (uuencoding needs practically no internal
storage). It isn't a great masterpiece of software design and coding,
but might be worth a look. Feel free to do whatever you want to it, up
to and including throwing it in the bin.

===== uuencode.c =====

/*
 * uuencode.c -
 *  Simple uuencode utility
 *  Jim Cameron, 1997
 */

#include "stdio.h"
#include "stdlib.h"

#define MAX_LINELEN 45

#define ENCODE_BYTE(b) (((b) == 0) ? 0x60 : ((b) + 0x20))

typedef unsigned char BYTE;

int main (int argc, char *argv [])
{

  FILE *infile	= NULL;
  FILE *outfile = NULL;
  int	linelen;
  int linecnt;
  BYTE inbuf [MAX_LINELEN];
  BYTE *inbytep;
  char outbuf [5];

  if (argc != 3)
  {
    fprintf (stderr, "Syntax: uuencode <infile> <outfile>\n");
    exit (1);
  }

  /* Try and open the input file (binary) */

  infile = fopen (argv [1], "rb");
  if (infile == NULL)
  {
    fprintf (stderr, "uuencode: Couldn't open input file %s\n", argv
[1]);
    exit (1);
  }

  /* Try and open the output file (text) */

  outfile = fopen (argv [2], "wt");
  if (outfile == NULL)
  {
    fprintf (stderr, "uuencode: Couldn't open output file %s\n", argv
[2]);
    exit (1);
  }

  /* Write the 'begin' line, giving it a mode of 0600 */

  fprintf (outfile, "begin 600 %s\n", argv [1]);

  do
  {

    /* Read a line from input file */

    linelen = fread (inbuf, 1, MAX_LINELEN, infile);

    /* Write the line length byte */

    fputc (ENCODE_BYTE (linelen), outfile);

    /* Encode the line */

    for (linecnt = linelen, inbytep = inbuf;
         linecnt > 0;
         linecnt -= 3, inbytep += 3)
    {

      /* Encode 3 bytes from the input buffer */

      outbuf [0] = ENCODE_BYTE ((inbytep [0] & 0xFC) >> 2);
      outbuf [1] = ENCODE_BYTE (((inbytep [0] & 0x03) << 4) +
                                ((inbytep [1] & 0xF0) >> 4));
      outbuf [2] = ENCODE_BYTE (((inbytep [1] & 0x0F) << 2) +
                                ((inbytep [2] & 0xC0) >> 6));
      outbuf [3] = ENCODE_BYTE (inbytep [2] & 0x3F);
      outbuf [4] = '\0';

      /* Write the 4 encoded bytes to the file */

      fprintf (outfile, "%s", outbuf);

    }

    fprintf (outfile, "\n");

  } while (linelen != 0);

  /* Write the 'end' marker */

  fprintf (outfile, "end\n");

  /* Tidy up and return */

  fclose (infile);
  fclose (outfile);

  return 0;

}

===== uudecode.c =====

/*
 * uudecode.c -
 *  Simple uudecode utility
 *  Jim Cameron, 1997
 */

#include <ctype.h>
#include <stdio.h>
#include <stdlib.h>
#include <string.h>

/* We all hate magic numbers! */

#define LINE_BUF_SIZE 256

/* Decode a byte */

#define DECODE_BYTE(b) ((b == 0x60) ? 0 : b - 0x20)

typedef unsigned char BYTE;

int main (int argc, char *argv [])
{

  FILE *infile	= NULL;
  FILE *outfile = NULL;
  char linebuf [LINE_BUF_SIZE];
  char *linep	= NULL;
  char *tempcp	= NULL;                           
  int   linelen	= 0;
  int   linecnt	= 0;
  char outfname [LINE_BUF_SIZE];
  BYTE outbyte	[3];

  /* Check that we have the right number of arguments */

  if (argc != 2)
  {
    fprintf (stderr, "Syntax: uudecode <filename>\n");
    exit (1);
  }

  /* Open the input file */

  infile = fopen (argv [1], "rt");
  if (infile == NULL)
  {
    fprintf (stderr, "uudecode: Couldn't open file %s\n", argv [1]);
    exit (1);
  }

  /* uu-encoded files always have a 'begin' marker, so go and look for
this */

  for (;;)
  {

    /* Read a line */

    if (fgets (linebuf, LINE_BUF_SIZE, infile) == NULL)
    {
      fprintf (stderr, "uudecode: Not a valid uu-encoded file\n");
      exit (1);
    }

    /* See if it is the 'begin' marker */

    if ((strncmp (linebuf, "begin", 5) == 0) && isspace (linebuf [5]))
    {
      break;
    }

  }

  /* If we have reached this point, we have found a begin marker */

  linep = linebuf + 5;

  /* Next comes the mode, which we ignore */

  while (isspace (*linep))
  {
    linep++;
  }
  if (*linep == '\0')
  {
    fprintf (stderr, "uudecode: Not a valid uu-encoded file\n");
    exit (1);
  }

  while (isdigit (*linep))
  {
    linep++;
  }
  while (isspace (*linep))
  {
    linep++;
  }
  if (*linep == '\0')
  {
  	fprintf (stderr, "uudecode: Not a valid uu-encoded file/n");
    exit (1);
  }

  /* The rest of the begin line is the output file name */

  strcpy (outfname, linep);
  tempcp = outfname;
  while (!isspace (*tempcp) && (*tempcp != '\0'))
  {
    tempcp++;
  }
  *tempcp = '\0';

  /* Now open the output file */

  outfile = fopen (outfname, "wb");
  if (outfile == NULL)
  {
    fprintf (stderr, "uudecode: Couldn't open output file %s\n",
outfname);
    exit (1);
  }

  /* Now for the uu-decode proper */

  do
  {

    if (fgets (linebuf, LINE_BUF_SIZE, infile) == NULL)
    {
      fprintf (stderr, "uudecode: Read error\n");
      exit (1);
    }

    /* The first byte of the line represents the length of the DECODED
line */

    linelen = DECODE_BYTE (linebuf [0]);
    linep = linebuf + 1;
    for (linecnt = linelen; linecnt > 0; linecnt -= 3, linep += 4)
    {

      /* Check for premature end-of-line */

      if ((linep [0] == '\0') || (linep [1] == '\0') ||
          (linep [2] == '\0') || (linep [3] == '\0'))
      {
      	fprintf (stderr, "uudecode: Error in encoded block\n");
	exit (1);
      }

      /* Decode the 4-byte block */

      outbyte [0] = DECODE_BYTE (linep [0]);
      outbyte [1] = DECODE_BYTE (linep [1]);
      outbyte [0] <<= 2;
      outbyte [0] |= (outbyte [1] >> 4) & 0x03;
      outbyte [1] <<= 4;
      outbyte [2] = DECODE_BYTE (linep [2]);
      outbyte [1] |= (outbyte [2] >> 2) & 0x0F;
      outbyte [2] <<= 6;
      outbyte [2] |= DECODE_BYTE (linep [3]) & 0x3F;

      /* Write the decoded bytes to the output file */

      if (linecnt > 3)
      {
	if (fwrite (outbyte, 1, 3, outfile) != 3)
	{
	  fprintf (stderr, "uudecode: Error writing to output file\n");
      	  exit (1);
	}
      }
      else
      {
      	if (fwrite (outbyte, 1, linecnt, outfile) != linecnt)
        {
	  fprintf (stderr, "uudecode: Error writing to output file\n");
          exit (1);
        }
        linecnt = 3;
      }

    }

  } while (linelen != 0);

  /* All is ok, tidy up and exit */

  fclose (infile);
  fclose (outfile);

  return 0;

}

===== end =====
 
jim
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List Member "EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" <JoeHurst@snafu.de> wrote:
Tom, how could I know that YOU would answer? :-)
I'll do the coder the next days...

Bye, Joe

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
At 09:13 PM 20/09/99 +0200, you wrote:
>List Member "EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" <JoeHurst@snafu.de> wrote:
>Tom, how could I know that YOU would answer? :-)
>I'll do the coder the next days...
>
>Bye, Joe
>

Who else, indeed? <G>

When you have the time, Joe.  Nobody else seems interested but they want
the capability anyway.

Maybe everything I ask about the others already know but don't want to
share "trade secrets"?  I try, but my knowledge is too limited.  I have
things so messed up on here from failures that even my e-mail doesn't
release the comm port any more.  It hangs the modem up, but leaves the
port active & I'm using Eudora.  I've re-installed 2wice!

I suspect the registry is the problem, but haven't been very successfull
cleaning it up.  I put McAfee back on here & it seems to take 10 minutes
just to boot so I figure I need a major housecleaning.  I run scandisk
& defrag about once a week & see some improvement each time but.....!

Thank you for sharing your skill with the rest of us pinheads, Joe.
<G>
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List Member "Roland Walter" <roland@rowalt.de> wrote:
> > 1) can GFA-W generate a TSR?

With GFA Basic DOS it's possible but no Windows program can be
a TSR. 

> If you mean can GFA trap interrupts and return from them the answer is no, 
> unless you link some C or assembler to your program. 
> 
> Borland C, for instance, has 
>         interupt modifier to designate a function as an interrupt handler, 
>   and
>         dos_set_vect() ..... to redirect BIOS and DOS vectors to your
> interrupt handler
> 
> Any function you create with the interupt designator will return with the
> Intel IRET (return from interrupt) instruction.
> It will also save and resore registers.
> 
> GFA (Win or DOS) has no assembler, and does not do IRET. So it can't get
> the interrupt, and it cant return.

And on the other hand Interrupt handlers should run under
ring 0 I think (?) All normal Windows programs ar running in ring 3
and the reaction time is much to high - am I right?

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List Member "Roland Walter" <roland@rowalt.de> wrote:
> List Member "B.M.C.S." <bmcs@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
> The information Roland Walter recently posted to the mailing list regarding
> long filenames has been very interesting & useful. Thanks Roland!

The only "main" difference is that You have to use API file funtions.
Keep in mind that You will need 260 bytes buffer for *returned* file
names.
The function OpenFile will *not* handle long names. For this function
there exist a new compatible replacement named OpenFileEx.
The cause is that the old data structure OFSTRUCT had 120 bytes
space for the file name only. For OpenFileEx You can use the same
OFSTRUCT structure but You have to use 260 bytes space for the
file name - this is the only difference.

> What is the English translation of the following phrase:
> "Ersatz fr diverse Einzelvariablen, deren Inhalt hier uninteressant war..."
"Replacement for several 'single variables' wich content was not
interesting (needed) here"

> The FIND_DATA structure for krnl386.exe seems to be somewhat
> different from the true 32 bit WIN32_FIND_DATA structure. So is
> it possible to extract the file size, date & time using functions
> FindFirstFile, FindNextFile and FindClose used in Roland's most
> recent example?

The time information is new coded (see below).
Here is the full structure I could find out:

  TYPE FIND_DATA:
  - LONG Attribute   'file attributes (FILE_ATTRIBUTE_...)
  - CHAR*8 CreationTime$
  - CHAR*8 LastAccessTime$
  - CHAR*8 LastWriteTime$
  - LONG FileSizeHigh
  - LONG FileSizeLow
  - CHAR*8 Reserved$
  - CHAR*260 FileName$              'long file name
  - CHAR*14 AlternateFileName$  'old DOS file name
  ENDTYPE
'The time information is a LargeInteger (8-byte-sized) and contains
'date+time in 1/10 seconds (?) since year 1601.

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

20/09/99 05:40:37 PM   TSRs, etc.   2009xx1-

The question has entered an area of technical expertise I don't have.

I asked if we can generate a TSR because it's the only way I know that=20
a program can be run as long as the computer is booted.

I want to watch two points of activity:  ALL reads & writes to disk,=20
and all calls to the modem to send anything out.

The question of read & write... I want to log the origin & reciprient=20
af all calls NOT addressed to the application the user is running.

The question of watching modem use... I want to log the origin &=20
reciprient af all calls NOT addressed to the application the user is=20
running.

I realize that users running more than one appl at a time would see a=20
very large possible log, but if reviewed each day or so & deleted, it=20
shouldn't grow very large.

I am looking at monitoring for virus & trojan activity.  IF such=20
activity occurs, a warning can be put onscreen that requires=20
intervention, allowing the appl to delete the file in 48 hours,=20
automatically unless the user has saved it elsewhere.

Deutsch:

20/09/99 05:40:37 PM   TSRs, etc.   2009xx1-

 frage hab/hat entered ein fl=E4cheninhalt ab technisch expertise ICH=20
nicht habe.

ICH asked falls uns d=FCrfen erzeugen Sie ein TSR da es ist  allein=20
angewohnheit ICH kennen da=DF ein programm d=FCrfen sein anlauf solange =20
computer ist booted.

ICH bedarf an uhr zwei points ab t=E4tigkeit:  ALLE reads & writes an=20
platte, und alle benennst am modem an schicken etwas =E4u=DFerlich.

 frage ab lesen & schreiben... ICH bedarf an log  ursprung &=20
reciprient af alle benennst NEIN adressierte am anwendung  benutzer =20
ist das Laufen.

 frage ab watching modem benutzen... ICH bedarf an log  ursprung &=20
reciprient af alle benennst NEIN adressierte am anwendung  benutzer =20
ist das Laufen.

ICH begreifen da=DF benutzers das Laufen mehr als ein appl an ein zeit=20
sollten sehe ein sehr gro=DF ang=E4ngig log, ausgenommen falls berpr fte=20
jede tag oder auch & losch, es shouldn't geschehen sehr gro=DF.

ICH bin/ist das Sehen an =FCberwachung f=FCr virus & trojan t=E4tigkeit. =20
FALLS derartige t=E4tigkeit vorkommt, ein warnung d=FCrfen sein legen auf=20
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=20
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List Member UlliStemmeler@t-online.de (Ulli Stemmeler) wrote:
Hello David,

Thanks for the information, unfortunately I don=B4t have no idea how to l=
ook for=20
this 24-bit-entry. I never did things like this "in old Atari days", so I=
 don=B4t=20
know how to do this not with Atari and also not with my actual PC.
Could you explain me this a little bit more ??

Thanks,
Ulli

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List Member David Clouter <DaveClouter@compuserve.com> wrote:
Ulli,

Sorry about 'the old days', I'm a programming dinosaur - started in 1964!=


Now to your CD serial number problem.

Firstly, this approach will only work if CDs logically have the same sort=

of boot sector as every other type of disc.  I have been unable to find
out, or try this (for reasons told later)

Secondly, what we are tring to do is read (may be referred to as a DMA
access) sector zero, track zero, which is conventionally the boot sector =
of
any disk accessible to DOS.  I have not yet managed to identify the GfA
Basic or Windows API call to do this - it seems too low level for them.  =
I
am certain it could be done easily in 80x86 assembler, through (something=

like) interrupt 13h, where the parameters on the call define the low-leve=
l
function to be performed.  I do not know 80x86 assembler very well, or ha=
ve
any useful reference books for it, since I specialised in a proper(!) chi=
p,
the Motorola 680n0, which had 16 32-bit registers as long ago as 1986!

The call to the assembler function could be done from GfA basic, and woul=
d
return a 512-byte block (again assuming CDs are like real disks).

If you can read this boot sector, the problem is solved! Extract the 9th,=

10th & 11th bytes (using mid$?) and drop them into a 32-bit integer field=

(serial_number%).

Intel have a nasty habit, at this low level, or reversing the byte sequen=
ce
of integers, so a little experimentation may be needed to get them the
right way round.  You can easily do this by formatting a floppy disk,
noting the serial number displayed [will be in hexadecimal], then hitting=

the same disk with your routine (drive letters are represented by a=3D1, =
b=3D2
etc as one of the call parameters, so this can easily be changed. In fact=
,
if you want this to be used on more than one different PC, this parameter=

will have to be plugged in 'on the fly'.)

I am going to central London early next week, and if I can find a suitabl=
e
reference book, I will e-mail you the assembler source-code, or any other=

useful information I can find.

Sorry I cannot at the moment give you a complete solution, but I think th=
is
is probably on the right track.

Dave =

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List Member Bueckmann.W@t-online.de (Bueckmann.W) wrote:
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Test this, this is able to write and read a bootsector=20
But be careful with the Boot.gfa, Maybe it kills your Bootsector.!!!!!!

Better you set the anti virus warning on your system to on ( in the BIOS ),
and you will know when something wanted to write your bootsector.

With this routines you are able to share OS.

Getboot for read the bootsector and save the files in c:\*.*
Boot for write the bootsector and copy all files to c:\*.*

The  programs need to be in the folder c:\BOOT !!!

Tested with DOS 5-6.22 DR-DOS Windows95 on a 16 Bit Partition with unter
1024 MB.

On Win 95 let the BOOT - Program run in Dos Mode.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
These Programs are without guarantee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Better you make a backup before you test. !!!




Regards / M.f.G.     Wilhelm B=FCckmann
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E-Mail:    Willib@Willib.de
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SCREEN 18
CLS
ram%=3DMALLOC(10000)
TYPE dtah:
- CHAR *21 dumm1$
- BYTE atr
- CARD time
- CARD date
- LONG len
- CHAR *14 name$
ENDTYPE
dtah:dta.

// grundverzeichnis

di$=3D"c:\boot\"

REM reaboot
writboot

~MFREE(ram%)
_FL=3D0





> PROCEDURE writboot
  FILESELECT UPPER$(di$+"*.bts"),"",fi$
  IF @exi(fi$)=3D-1
    BLOAD fi$,ram%
    ab%=3DINSTR(fi$,".")
    na$=3DLEFT$(fi$,ab%-1)
    ab%=3D0
    REPEAT
      INC ab%
      hilo(ram%)
      ~INTR($13,_AH=3D3,_DL=3D$80,_DH=3D1,_CH=3D0,_CL=3D1,_AL=3D1,_ES=3Dhi%,=
_BX=3Dlo%)
      ? _FL,_AH
    UNTIL _FL & 1 =3D 0 OR ab%=3D10
    IF ab%<>10
      loegru
      copytogru(na$+"\")
      ALERT 1,"RESET",1,"JA|Nein",was%
      IF was%=3D1
        DPOKE $472,$1234
        CALL &Hffff0000
      ENDIF
    ELSE
      ALERT 1," HAT NICHT GEKLAPPT ",1,"DUMM",ab%
    ENDIF
  ENDIF
RETURN
> PROCEDURE reaboot                  /* lese bootsektor ...
  loespei
  ab%=3D0
  REPEAT
    hilo(ram%)
    ~INTR($13,_AH=3D2,_DL=3D$80,_DH=3D1,_CH=3D0,_CL=3D1,_AL=3D1,_ES=3Dhi%,_B=
X=3Dlo%)
    INC ab%
  UNTIL _FL & %1 =3D 0 OR ab%=3D10
  IF ab%<>10
    ? _AH
    na$=3D""
    FOR g%=3D1 TO 8
      a$=3DCHR$(PEEK(ram%+2+g%))
      IF a$=3D"." THEN a$=3D"_"
      na$=3Dna$+a$
    NEXT g%
    ? "Name des Betriebssystems ? ";
    FORMINPUT 8 AS na$
    IF  @MKD(di$+na$)=3D0
      /* schon existent
    ENDIF
    BSAVE di$+na$+".bts",ram%,512
    copygru(di$+na$+"\")
  ELSE
    ALERT 1," HAT NICHT GEKLAPPT ",1,"DUMM",ab%
  ENDIF
RETURN
> PROCEDURE zeige
  plh%=3D2
  FOR z%=3D1 TO 10
    FOR h%=3D0 TO 16
      FOR g%=3D0 TO 15
        ad%=3DPEEK(z%*256-256+ram%+h%*16+g%)
        ? AT(g%*3+6,h%+plh%);HEX$(ad%,2);
        ~INTR(&h10,_AH=3D2,_BH=3D0,_DH=3Dh%+plh%-1,_DL=3Dg%+54)
        ~INTR(&h10,_AH=3D9,_BH=3D0,_CX=3D1,_AL=3Dad%,_BL=3D%11111)
      NEXT g%
    NEXT h%
    KEYGET a%
  NEXT z%
  ALERT 1,"ENDE ",1,"OK",a%
RETURN
> PROCEDURE loespei
  FOR g%=3D0 TO 9996 STEP 4
    LPOKE ram%+g%,0
  NEXT g%
RETURN
> PROCEDURE hilo(adr%)
  hi%=3DHIWORD(adr%)
  lo%=3DLOWORD(adr%)
RETURN
> PROCEDURE loegru                /* loesche grundverzeichnis
  adr%=3DV:dta.
  ~FSETDTA(adr%)
  ab%=3DFSFIRST("c:\*.*",-1)
  IF ab%=3D0
    WHILE ab%=3D0
      nan$=3Ddta.name$
      IF LEFT$(nan$,1)<>"."
        IF dta.atr & %10000 =3D 0
          ab%=3D@loe("c:\"+nan$)
        ENDIF
      ENDIF
      ab%=3DFSNEXT()
    WEND
  ENDIF
RETURN
> PROCEDURE copytogru(anf$)       /* copiere nach c:\
  adr%=3DV:dta.
  ~FSETDTA(adr%)
  ab%=3DFSFIRST(anf$+"*.*",-1)
  IF ab%=3D0
    WHILE ab%=3D0
      nan$=3Ddta.name$
      IF LEFT$(nan$,1)<>"."
        IF dta.atr & %10000 =3D 0
          fastlong(anf$+nan$,"c:\"+nan$)
        ENDIF
      ENDIF
      ab%=3DFSNEXT()
    WEND
  ENDIF
RETURN






> PROCEDURE copygru(anf$)         /* copiere nach c:\boot\...
  adr%=3DV:dta.
  ~FSETDTA(adr%)
  ab%=3DFSFIRST("c:\*.*",-1)
  IF ab%=3D0
    WHILE ab%=3D0
      nan$=3Ddta.name$
      IF LEFT$(nan$,1)<>"."
        IF dta.atr & %10000 =3D 0
          fastlong("c:\"+nan$,anf$+nan$)
        ENDIF
      ENDIF
      ab%=3DFSNEXT()
    WEND
  ENDIF
RETURN
> PROCEDURE fastlong(da1$,da2$)
  ? da1$,da2$

  LOCAL ab%
  ant%=3D@exi(da2$)
  copier%=3D1,ab%=3D0,lang2%=3D0
  freid%=3DDFREE(ASC(da2$))
  IF ant%=3D-1
    OPEN "I",#1,da1$
    lang1%=3DLOF(#1)
    CLOSE #1
    OPEN "I",#1,da2$
    lang2%=3DLOF(#1)
    CLOSE #1
  ENDIF
  PLATZ%=3Dfreid%-lang1%+lang2%
  IF PLATZ%>1000
    IF ant%=3D-1
      ab%=3D@loe(da2$)
    ENDIF
    da1$=3Dda1$+CHR$(0)
    da2$=3Dda2$+CHR$(0)
    mulfak%=3D8192
    hilo(V:da1$)
    ~INTR($21,_AH=3D$43,_AL=3D0,_DS=3Dhi%,_DX=3Dlo%)     /* attribut ?
    atri%=3D_CX
    ~INTR($21,_AH=3D$3d,_AL=3D0,_DS=3Dhi%,_DX=3Dlo%)     /* oeffnen 1 */
    fl%=3D_FL
    handle1%=3D_AX
    IF handle1%<>2
      hilo(V:da2$)
      ~INTR($21,_AH=3D$3c,_CX=3Datri%,_DS=3Dhi%,_DX=3Dlo%)     /* oeffnen 2=
 */
      handle2%=3D_AX
      fl%=3Dfl% OR _FL
      anza%=3D0
      REPEAT
        was%=3D0
        REPEAT
          vowo%=3Danza%*mulfak%,was%=3D2
          hilo(vowo%)
          ~INTR($21,_AH=3D$42,_BX=3Dhandle1%,_AL=3D0,_CX=3Dhi%,_DX=3Dlo%) =
 /* dateizeiger auf vowo */
          fl%=3Dfl% OR _FL
          hilo(ram%)
          ~INTR($21,_AH=3D$3f,_BX=3Dhandle1%,_CX=3Dmulfak%,_DS=3Dhi%,_DX=3Dl=
o%)  /* bytes lesen */
          fl%=3Dfl% OR _FL
          IF _FL & 1 =3D 1
            ALERT 1," Fehler beim Lesen der Datei ",1,"Nochmal|Abbruch",was%
          ENDIF
        UNTIL was%=3D2
        REPEAT
          wiev%=3D_AX
          was%=3D2
          hilo(vowo%)
          ~INTR($21,_AH=3D$42,_BX=3Dhandle2%,_AL=3D0,_CX=3Dhi%,_DX=3Dlo%) =
 /* dateizeiger auf vowo */
          fl%=3Dfl% OR _FL
          hilo(ram%)
          ~INTR($21,_AH=3D$40,_BX=3Dhandle2%,_CX=3Dwiev%,_DS=3Dhi%,_DX=3Dlo%=
)  /* bytes schreiben */
          fl%=3Dfl% OR _FL
          IF _FL & 1 =3D 1
            ALERT 1," Fehler beim Schreiben der Datei=
 ",1,"Nochmal|Abbruch",was%
          ENDIF
        UNTIL was%=3D2
        INC anza%
      UNTIL wiev%<>mulfak%
      ~INTR($21,_AH=3D$3e,_BX=3Dhandle1%)                   /* schliessen 1=
 */
      fl%=3Dfl% OR _FL
      ~INTR($21,_AH=3D$3e,_BX=3Dhandle2%)                   /* schliessen 2=
 */
      fl%=3D( fl% OR _FL ) & 1
    ENDIF
  ENDIF
RETURN
> FUNCTION MKD(ab$)               /* erzeuge verzeichnis
  TRY
    MKDIR ab$
    RETURN -1
  CATCH
  RETURN 0
ENDFUNC
> FUNCTION exi(na$)               /* exist ohne fehler
  na$=3Dna$+CHR$(0)
  hilo(V:na$)
  ~INTR($21,_AH=3D$3D,_AL=3D0,_DS=3Dhi%,_DX=3Dlo%)
  handle1%=3D_AX
  IF _FL & 1 =3D 1
    RETURN 0
  ELSE
    hilo(V:na$)
    ~INTR($21,_AH=3D$3E,_BX=3Dhandle1%)
    RETURN -1
  ENDIF
ENDFUNC
> FUNCTION loe(na$)               /* l=94sche Datei
  na$=3Dna$+CHR$(0)
  hilo(V:na$)
  ~INTR($21,_AH=3D$43,_AL=3D1,_CX=3D0,_DS=3Dhi%,_DX=3Dlo%)
  hilo(V:na$)
  ~INTR($21,_AH=3D$41,_DS=3Dhi%,_DX=3Dlo%)
  RETURN _FL
ENDFUNC

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SCREEN 18
CLS
ram%=3DMALLOC(10000)
TYPE dtah:
- CHAR *21 dumm1$
- BYTE atr
- CARD time
- CARD date
- LONG len
- CHAR *14 name$
ENDTYPE
dtah:dta.

// grundverzeichnis

di$=3D"c:\boot\"

reaboot
REM writboot

~MFREE(ram%)

_FL=3D0



> PROCEDURE writboot
  FILESELECT UPPER$(di$+"*.bts"),"",fi$
  IF @exi(fi$)=3D-1
    BLOAD fi$,ram%
    ab%=3DINSTR(fi$,".")
    na$=3DLEFT$(fi$,ab%-1)
    ab%=3D0
    REPEAT
      INC ab%
      hilo(ram%)
      ~INTR($13,_AH=3D3,_DL=3D$80,_DH=3D1,_CH=3D0,_CL=3D1,_AL=3D1,_ES=3Dhi%,=
_BX=3Dlo%)
      ? _FL,_AH
    UNTIL _FL & 1 =3D 0 OR ab%=3D10

    IF ab%<>10
      loegru
      copytogru(na$+"\")
    ELSE
      ALERT 1," HAT NICHT GEKLAPPT ",1,"DUMM",ab%
    ENDIF
  ENDIF
RETURN
> PROCEDURE reaboot                  /* lese bootsektor ...
  loespei
  ab%=3D0
  REPEAT
    hilo(ram%)
    ~INTR($13,_AH=3D2,_DL=3D$80,_DH=3D1,_CH=3D0,_CL=3D1,_AL=3D1,_ES=3Dhi%,_B=
X=3Dlo%)
    INC ab%
  UNTIL _FL & %1 =3D 0 OR ab%=3D10
  IF ab%<>10
    ? _AH
    na$=3D""
    FOR g%=3D1 TO 8
      a$=3DCHR$(PEEK(ram%+2+g%))
      IF a$=3D"." THEN a$=3D"_"
      na$=3Dna$+a$
    NEXT g%
    ? "Name des Betriebssystems ? ";
    FORMINPUT 8 AS na$
    IF  @MKD(di$+na$)=3D0
      /* schon existent
    ENDIF
    BSAVE di$+na$+".bts",ram%,512
    copygru(di$+na$+"\")
  ELSE
    ALERT 1," HAT NICHT GEKLAPPT ",1,"DUMM",ab%
  ENDIF
RETURN
> PROCEDURE zeige
  plh%=3D2
  FOR z%=3D1 TO 10
    FOR h%=3D0 TO 16
      FOR g%=3D0 TO 15
        ad%=3DPEEK(z%*256-256+ram%+h%*16+g%)
        ? AT(g%*3+6,h%+plh%);HEX$(ad%,2);
        ~INTR(&h10,_AH=3D2,_BH=3D0,_DH=3Dh%+plh%-1,_DL=3Dg%+54)
        ~INTR(&h10,_AH=3D9,_BH=3D0,_CX=3D1,_AL=3Dad%,_BL=3D%11111)
      NEXT g%
    NEXT h%
    KEYGET a%
  NEXT z%
  ALERT 1,"ENDE ",1,"OK",a%
RETURN
> PROCEDURE loespei
  FOR g%=3D0 TO 9996 STEP 4
    LPOKE ram%+g%,0
  NEXT g%
RETURN
> PROCEDURE hilo(adr%)
  hi%=3DHIWORD(adr%)
  lo%=3DLOWORD(adr%)
RETURN
> PROCEDURE loegru                /* loesche grundverzeichnis
  adr%=3DV:dta.
  ~FSETDTA(adr%)
  ab%=3DFSFIRST("c:\*.*",-1)
  IF ab%=3D0
    WHILE ab%=3D0
      nan$=3Ddta.name$
      IF LEFT$(nan$,1)<>"."
        IF dta.atr & %10000 =3D 0
          ab%=3D@loe("c:\"+nan$)
        ENDIF
      ENDIF
      ab%=3DFSNEXT()
    WEND
  ENDIF
RETURN
> PROCEDURE copytogru(anf$)       /* copiere nach c:\
  adr%=3DV:dta.
  ~FSETDTA(adr%)
  ab%=3DFSFIRST(anf$+"*.*",-1)
  IF ab%=3D0
    WHILE ab%=3D0
      nan$=3Ddta.name$
      IF LEFT$(nan$,1)<>"."
        IF dta.atr & %10000 =3D 0
          fastlong(anf$+nan$,"c:\"+nan$)
        ENDIF
      ENDIF
      ab%=3DFSNEXT()
    WEND
  ENDIF
RETURN






> PROCEDURE copygru(anf$)         /* copiere nach c:\boot\...
  adr%=3DV:dta.
  ~FSETDTA(adr%)
  ab%=3DFSFIRST("c:\*.*",-1)
  IF ab%=3D0
    WHILE ab%=3D0
      nan$=3Ddta.name$
      IF LEFT$(nan$,1)<>"."
        IF dta.atr & %10000 =3D 0
          fastlong("c:\"+nan$,anf$+nan$)
        ENDIF
      ENDIF
      ab%=3DFSNEXT()
    WEND
  ENDIF
RETURN
> PROCEDURE fastlong(da1$,da2$)
  ? da1$,da2$

  LOCAL ab%
  ant%=3D@exi(da2$)
  copier%=3D1,ab%=3D0,lang2%=3D0
  freid%=3DDFREE(ASC(da2$))
  IF ant%=3D-1
    OPEN "I",#1,da1$
    lang1%=3DLOF(#1)
    CLOSE #1
    OPEN "I",#1,da2$
    lang2%=3DLOF(#1)
    CLOSE #1
  ENDIF
  PLATZ%=3Dfreid%-lang1%+lang2%
  IF PLATZ%>1000
    IF ant%=3D-1
      ab%=3D@loe(da2$)
    ENDIF
    da1$=3Dda1$+CHR$(0)
    da2$=3Dda2$+CHR$(0)
    mulfak%=3D8192
    hilo(V:da1$)
    ~INTR($21,_AH=3D$43,_AL=3D0,_DS=3Dhi%,_DX=3Dlo%)     /* attribut ?
    atri%=3D_CX
    ~INTR($21,_AH=3D$3d,_AL=3D0,_DS=3Dhi%,_DX=3Dlo%)     /* oeffnen 1 */
    fl%=3D_FL
    handle1%=3D_AX
    IF handle1%<>2
      hilo(V:da2$)
      ~INTR($21,_AH=3D$3c,_CX=3Datri%,_DS=3Dhi%,_DX=3Dlo%)     /* oeffnen 2=
 */
      handle2%=3D_AX
      fl%=3Dfl% OR _FL
      anza%=3D0
      REPEAT
        was%=3D0
        REPEAT
          vowo%=3Danza%*mulfak%,was%=3D2
          hilo(vowo%)
          ~INTR($21,_AH=3D$42,_BX=3Dhandle1%,_AL=3D0,_CX=3Dhi%,_DX=3Dlo%) =
 /* dateizeiger auf vowo */
          fl%=3Dfl% OR _FL
          hilo(ram%)
          ~INTR($21,_AH=3D$3f,_BX=3Dhandle1%,_CX=3Dmulfak%,_DS=3Dhi%,_DX=3Dl=
o%)  /* bytes lesen */
          fl%=3Dfl% OR _FL
          IF _FL & 1 =3D 1
            ALERT 1," Fehler beim Lesen der Datei ",1,"Nochmal|Abbruch",was%
          ENDIF
        UNTIL was%=3D2
        REPEAT
          wiev%=3D_AX
          was%=3D2
          hilo(vowo%)
          ~INTR($21,_AH=3D$42,_BX=3Dhandle2%,_AL=3D0,_CX=3Dhi%,_DX=3Dlo%) =
 /* dateizeiger auf vowo */
          fl%=3Dfl% OR _FL
          hilo(ram%)
          ~INTR($21,_AH=3D$40,_BX=3Dhandle2%,_CX=3Dwiev%,_DS=3Dhi%,_DX=3Dlo%=
)  /* bytes schreiben */
          fl%=3Dfl% OR _FL
          IF _FL & 1 =3D 1
            ALERT 1," Fehler beim Schreiben der Datei=
 ",1,"Nochmal|Abbruch",was%
          ENDIF
        UNTIL was%=3D2
        INC anza%
      UNTIL wiev%<>mulfak%
      ~INTR($21,_AH=3D$3e,_BX=3Dhandle1%)                   /* schliessen 1=
 */
      fl%=3Dfl% OR _FL
      ~INTR($21,_AH=3D$3e,_BX=3Dhandle2%)                   /* schliessen 2=
 */
      fl%=3D( fl% OR _FL ) & 1
    ENDIF
  ENDIF
RETURN
> FUNCTION MKD(ab$)               /* erzeuge verzeichnis
  TRY
    MKDIR ab$
    RETURN -1
  CATCH
  RETURN 0
ENDFUNC
> FUNCTION exi(na$)               /* exist ohne fehler
  na$=3Dna$+CHR$(0)
  hilo(V:na$)
  ~INTR($21,_AH=3D$3D,_AL=3D0,_DS=3Dhi%,_DX=3Dlo%)
  handle1%=3D_AX
  IF _FL & 1 =3D 1
    RETURN 0
  ELSE
    hilo(V:na$)
    ~INTR($21,_AH=3D$3E,_BX=3Dhandle1%)
    RETURN -1
  ENDIF
ENDFUNC
> FUNCTION loe(na$)               /* l=94sche Datei
  na$=3Dna$+CHR$(0)
  hilo(V:na$)
  ~INTR($21,_AH=3D$43,_AL=3D1,_CX=3D0,_DS=3Dhi%,_DX=3Dlo%)
  hilo(V:na$)
  ~INTR($21,_AH=3D$41,_DS=3Dhi%,_DX=3Dlo%)
  RETURN _FL
ENDFUNC

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List Member "EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" <JoeHurst@snafu.de> wrote:
> When you have the time, Joe.  Nobody else seems interested but they want
> the capability anyway.
Encoding UU-Standard works compatibel with WinCode 2.7.3. As input my coder
wants a file (!), not a string, but file-splitting of the result is possible,
too.
Decoding is in work (a little bit more complicated).

MiMe-compatibility is the last problem: how is the message-ID generated?
yyymmddhhmmss+????

> Thank you for sharing your skill with the rest of us pinheads, Joe.
Yepp, get up and onto my pinboard.

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Hallo Ulli,

You want know the serial number of CD drive or other
hard disks.
Try the new 32 bit API function:
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------
BOOL GetVolumeInformation(lpRootPathName,
lpVolumeNameBuffer, nVolumeNameSize, lpVolumeSerialNumber,
lpMaximumComponentLength, lpFileSystemFlags, lpFileSystemNameBuffer,
nFileSystemNameSize)

LPCTSTR lpRootPathName; /* address of root dir. of the file system */
LPTSTR lpVolumeNameBuffer; /* address of name of the volume */
DWORD nVolumeNameSize; /* length of lpVolumeNameBuffer */
LPDWORD lpVolumeSerialNumber; /* address of volume serial number */
LPDWORD lpMaximumComponentLength; /* address of system's max. length of
filename */
LPDWORD lpFileSystemFlags; /* address of file system flags */
LPTSTR lpFileSystemNameBuffer; /* address of name of file system */
DWORD nFileSystemNameSize; /* length of lpFileSystemNameBuffer */


The GetVolumeInformation function returns information about the file system
whose root directory is specified.

Parameter Description

lpRootPathName Points to a string that contains the root directory of the
volume to be described. If this parameter is NULL, the root of the current
directory is used.
lpVolumeNameBuffer Points to a buffer that receives the name of the
specified volume.
nVolumeNameSize Specifies the length, in characters, of the volume name
buffer. This parameter is ignored if the volume name buffer is not supplied.
lpVolumeSerialNumber Points to a variable that receives the volume serial
number. This parameter can be NULL if the serial number is not required.
lpMaximumComponentLength Points to a doubleword value that receives the
maximum length, in characters, of a filename component supported by the
specified file system. A filename component is that portion of a filename
between backslashes.

On systems that use the high-performance (HPFS) and New Technology (NTFS)
file systems, this function may indicate that individual filename components
can be up to 255 characters. However, you cannot create a filename of this
length because the CreateFile function has a limit of 255 characters for the
combined path and filename.
lpFileSystemFlags Points to a doubleword that receives flags associated with
the specified file system. This parameter can be any combination of the
following flags:

Value Meaning

FS_CASE_IS_PRESERVED
The case of filenames is preserved when the name is placed on disk.
FS_CASE_SENSITIVE
The file system supports case-sensitive filename lookup.
FS_UNICODE_STORED_ON_DISK
The file system supports Unicode in filenames as they appear on disk.

lpFileSystemNameBuffer Points to a buffer that receives the name of the file
system (such as FAT, HPFS, or NTFS).
nFileSystemNameSize Specifies the length, in characters, of the file system
name buffer. This parameter is ignored if the file system name buffer is not
supplied.

Returns

If all the requested information is retrieved, the return value is TRUE;
otherwise, it is FALSE. To get extended error information, use the
GetLastError function.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----------------------------------
A little example with this function as attachment.

Greetings

Eberhard


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List Member "Russell Hayward" <tarquin@baphead.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
> 'The time information is a LargeInteger (8-byte-sized) and contains
> 'date+time in 1/10 seconds (?) since year 1601.

It's actually 1/10000000 (when you add 1 to it you are adding 100th of a
nanosecond)!

Why Windows needs such accurate timing is beyond me.

Just thought someone may be interested,
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
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> List Member "Russell Hayward" <tarquin@baphead.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
> > 'The time information is a LargeInteger (8-byte-sized) and contains
> > 'date+time in 1/10 seconds (?) since year 1601.
>
> It's actually 1/10000000 (when you add 1 to it you are adding 100th of a
> nanosecond)!
>
> Why Windows needs such accurate timing is beyond me.
>
> Just thought someone may be interested,
> Russell Hayward
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Ullie
Does this help you overall?  Or... at all?
2 lines begin w/ "wrapped" below - sorry, but necessary for my
e-mail situation.

' last15b.lst
' adapted from J. Hurst's bbox
' by Dale Bryant, then modified further by TomR.
'

' DEFINT "a-z"
MODE 1
prog$ = "lastfile"
FULLW #1
hWndMain& = WIN(1)
@get_drive
@Ini_Load
@Init_Menu
@Ini_Set
? AT(1,19);"Last File Loaded:"
DO
  GET_EVENT
  ch& = MENU(0)
  IF MENU(1) = 20 THEN eval_menu(ch&)
  EXIT IF MENU(1) = 4 || aborted!
LOOP
CLOSEW #1
CHDRIVE drv&
CHDIR path$
END
/*
PROCEDURE get_drive
  LOCAL i&
  drv& = _DRIVE
  path$ = CHR$(drv&) + ":" + DIR$(0)
  IF RIGHT$(path$) <> "\" THEN path$ = path$ + "\"
RETURN
/*
PROCEDURE eval_menu(sel&)
  SELECT sel&
  CASE MID_OPEN&
    @Load_file
  CASE MID_LAST1& TO MID_LAST15&
    testfile$ = lastfiles$(sel - MID_LAST1& + 1)
    DELETE lastfiles$(sel& - MID_LAST1& + 1)
    INSERT lastfiles$(1) = testfile$
    @Ini_Set
  CASE MID_QUIT&
    @Ini_Save
    aborted! = TRUE
  ENDSELECT
  ? AT(1,20);testfile$ + SPACE$(100)
RETURN
/*
PROCEDURE Init_Menu
  main_menu& = CreateMenu()
  file_menu& = CreatePopupMenu()
  recap_menu& = CreatePopupMenu()
  MID_NEW& = 101,  MID_OPEN& = 102
  MID_LAST1& = 104,MID_LAST2& = 105,MID_LAST3& = 106,MID_LAST4& = 107
  MID_LAST5& = 108,MID_LAST6& = 109,MID_LAST7& = 110,MID_LAST8& = 111
  MID_LAST9&=112,MID_LAST10& = 113,MID_LAST11& = 114,MID_LAST12& = 115
  MID_LAST13& = 116,MID_LAST14& = 117,MID_LAST15& = 118
  MID_QUIT& = 120
  ~AppendMenu(file_menu&,MF_STRING,MID_NEW& ,"&New")
  ~AppendMenu(file_menu&,MF_STRING,MID_OPEN&,"&Load File")
  ~AppendMenu(file_menu&,MF_SEPARATOR,NULL,NULL)
  ~AppendMenu(file_menu&,MF_STRING,MID_QUIT&,"E&xit...")
  ~AppendMenu(main_menu&,MF_POPUP,file_menu&,"&Files")
  ~AppendMenu(main_menu&,MF_POPUP,recap_menu&,"&Recap")
  FOR i& = 1 TO 15
    IF LEN(lastfiles$(i&)) > 0
      ' IF i = 1 THEN ~InsertMenu(recap_menu&,4,MF_SEPARATOR | 
wrapped MF_BYPOSITION,NULL,NULL)
      ' *this* I don't understand... I dropped the separator, but...
      IF i& = 1 THEN ~InsertMenu(recap_menu&,4,MF_BYPOSITION,NULL,NULL)
      a$ = STR$(i&) + " " + lastfiles$(i&) + CHR$(0)
      ~InsertMenu(recap_menu&,4 + i&,MF_STRING,103 + i&,V:a$)
      flag! = TRUE
    ENDIF
  NEXT i&
  ~SetMenu(hWndMain&,main_menu&)
RETURN
/*
PROCEDURE Load_file
  FILESELECT #prog$,"*.*","*.*",fsel$
  IF LEN(fsel$)
    testfile$ = fsel$
    @File_AdjustFilter(testfile$,TRUE)
  ENDIF
RETURN
/*
PROCEDURE Ini_Load               // USER-DEF
  'if last15f.ini exists, then load it
  LOCAL a$,a1$,a2$
  DIM lastfiles$(15)
  FOR t& = 1 TO 15
    lastfiles$(t&) = ""
  NEXT t&
  ini_success! = FALSE
  IF !EXIST(path$ + "last15f" + ".ini") THEN EXPROC
  TRY
    OPEN "I",#2,path$ + "last15f" + ".ini"
    WHILE NOT EOF(#2)
      INPUT #2,a$
      a$ = TRIM$(a$)
      IF LEN(a$) > 0 AND LEFT$(a$,1) <> ";" AND LEFT$(a$,1) <> "[" THEN
        IF INSTR(a$,"=") > 0 THEN           // FOUND IT
          a1$ = LOWER$(MID$(a$,1,INSTR(a$,"=") - 1))
          a2$ = MID$(a$,INSTR(a$,"=") + 1,LEN(a$))
          IF a1$ = "file01"
            lastfiles$(1) = a2$
          ELSE IF a1$ = "file02"
            lastfiles$(2) = a2$
          ELSE IF a1$ = "file03"
            lastfiles$(3) = a2$
          ELSE IF a1$ = "file04"
            lastfiles$(4) = a2$
          ELSE IF a1$ = "file05"
            lastfiles$(5) = a2$
          ELSE IF a1$ = "file06"
            lastfiles$(6) = a2$
          ELSE IF a1$ = "file07"
            lastfiles$(7) = a2$
          ELSE IF a1$ = "file08"
            lastfiles$(8) = a2$
          ELSE IF a1$ = "file09"
            lastfiles$(9) = a2$
          ELSE IF a1$ = "file10"
            lastfiles$(10) = a2$
          ELSE IF a1$ = "file11"
            lastfiles$(11) = a2$
          ELSE IF a1$ = "file12"
            lastfiles$(12) = a2$
          ELSE IF a1$ = "file13"
            lastfiles$(13) = a2$
          ELSE IF a1$ = "file14"
            lastfiles$(14) = a2$
          ELSE IF a1$ = "file15"
            lastfiles$(15) = a2$
          ENDIF
        ENDIF
      ENDIF
    WEND
    CLOSE #2
    ini_success! = TRUE
  CATCH
RETURN
/*
PROCEDURE Ini_Set
  @Menu_ChangeText(recap_menu&,MID_LAST1&,"01 " + lastfiles$(1))
  @Menu_ChangeText(recap_menu&,MID_LAST2&,"02 " + lastfiles$(2))
  @Menu_ChangeText(recap_menu&,MID_LAST3&,"03 " + lastfiles$(3))
  @Menu_ChangeText(recap_menu&,MID_LAST4&,"04 " + lastfiles$(4))
  @Menu_ChangeText(recap_menu&,MID_LAST5&,"05 " + lastfiles$(5))
  @Menu_ChangeText(recap_menu&,MID_LAST6&,"06 " + lastfiles$(6))
  @Menu_ChangeText(recap_menu&,MID_LAST7&,"07 " + lastfiles$(7))
  @Menu_ChangeText(recap_menu&,MID_LAST8&,"08 " + lastfiles$(8))
  @Menu_ChangeText(recap_menu&,MID_LAST9&,"09 " + lastfiles$(9))
  @Menu_ChangeText(recap_menu&,MID_LAST10&,"10 " + lastfiles$(10))
  @Menu_ChangeText(recap_menu&,MID_LAST11&,"11 " + lastfiles$(11))
  @Menu_ChangeText(recap_menu&,MID_LAST12&,"12 " + lastfiles$(12))
  @Menu_ChangeText(recap_menu&,MID_LAST13&,"13 " + lastfiles$(13))
  @Menu_ChangeText(recap_menu&,MID_LAST14&,"14 " + lastfiles$(14))
  @Menu_ChangeText(recap_menu&,MID_LAST15&,"15 " + lastfiles$(15))
RETURN
/*
PROCEDURE Menu_ChangeText(menuindex&,itemindex&,neuertext$)
  ~ModifyMenu(menuindex&,itemindex&,MF_STRING,itemindex&,neuertext$)
RETURN
/*
PROCEDURE Ini_Save               // USER-DEF
  ' save  or create lastfile.ini
  TRY
    OPEN "O",#2,path$ + "last15f" + ".ini"
    ? #2;"; ---------------------------------------------------------"
    ? #2;"; Ini-File for last15f"
    ? #2;"; Updated on " + @get_date$() + " at " + @tim$()
    ? #2;"; By Joe Hurst, Dale Bryant, & TomR."
    ? #2;"; ---------------------------------------------------------"
    ? #2;""
    ? #2;"[LastFiles]"
    ? #2;"File1=" + lastfiles$(1)
    ? #2;"File2=" + lastfiles$(2)
    ? #2;"File3=" + lastfiles$(3)
    ? #2;"File4=" + lastfiles$(4)
    ? #2;"File5=" + lastfiles$(5)
    ? #2;"File6=" + lastfiles$(6)
    ? #2;"File7=" + lastfiles$(7)
    ? #2;"File8=" + lastfiles$(8)
    ? #2;"File9=" + lastfiles$(9)
    ? #2;"File10=" + lastfiles$(10)
    ? #2;"File11=" + lastfiles$(11)
    ? #2;"File12=" + lastfiles$(12)
    ? #2;"File13=" + lastfiles$(13)
    ? #2;"File14=" + lastfiles$(14)
    ? #2;"File15=" + lastfiles$(15)
    ? #2;""
    CLOSE #2
  CATCH
  BEEP
RETURN
/*
PROCEDURE File_AdjustFilter(testfile$,flag!)
  LOCAL t&,i&,ext$,a1$
  i& = 0
  IF flag!
    i& = 0
    FOR t& = 15 DOWNTO 1
      IF lastfiles$(t&) = "" THEN i& = t&
    NEXT t&
    IF i& = 0
      INSERT lastfiles$(1) = testfile$
    ELSE
      lastfiles$(i&) = testfile$
      a$ = STR$(i&) + " " + lastfiles$(i&) + CHR$(0)
      ~InsertMenu(recap_menu&,4 + i&,MF_STRING,103 + i&,V:a$)
    ENDIF
    @Ini_Set
  ENDIF
RETURN
/*

'TITLEW #1,@tim$() + " " + @get_date$()

FUNCTION get_date$()
  LOCAL temp$,ctr&,i&
  LOCAL mon$="JanFebMarAprMayJunJulAugSepOctNovDec"
  LOCAL day$="SunMonTueWedThuFriSat"
  ~INTR($21,_AH = $2A)
  temp$ = MID$(day$,3 * _AL + 1,3) + ", " + STR$(_DL) + " " + 
wrapped MID$(mon$,3 * _DH - 2,3)
  temp$ = temp$ + " " + STR$(_CX)
  RETURN temp$
ENDFUNC


FUNCTION tim$()
  tm$ = TIME$
  IF VAL(LEFT$(tm$,2)) =< 12 THEN
    tm$ = tm$ + " a.m."
  ENDIF
  IF VAL(LEFT$(tm$,2)) > 12 THEN
    tm1& = VAL(LEFT$(tm$,2)) - 12
    tm1$ = STR$(tm1&),tm2$ = RIGHT$(tm$,6)
    tm$ = tm1$ + tm2$ + " p.m."
  ENDIF
  RETURN tm$
ENDFUNC

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List Member Jim Pennington <Jim@x-act.net> wrote:

Here's a cute one for all you file reading gurus out there.

The program works as follows:

1. Enter a date
2. Open a file whose name is derived from the date, read it and close it
3. Select a report option from a menu (one option is go back to #2)
4. print the report and go back to #3

The code:

file$=...
fh&(11)=_lopen(file$,OF_READ)
if fh&(11)>0
~_lread(fh&(11),V:f11.,660)
~_lclose(fh&(11))
ELSE
handle the error
ENDIF

The problem:

Upon first entry to the program, the file opens correctly every time. If
you then back up to change the date, it still opens correctly. If you
print a report, then back up to change the date, _lopen returns a file
handle of 0. On a hunch, I changed the code as follows:

file$=...
REPEAT
  fh&(11)=_lopen(file$,OF_READ)
  PRINT "Handle = ";fh&(11)     //So I can see how many times it tries
UNTIL fh&(11)>0

Now when it fails the first time, it is always successful the second
time! How can this be? What is the significance of a zero file handle?


TIA,

Jim Pennington
jim@x-act.net


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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Thanks Joe,
I  do and I will
Dale



> List Member "EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" <JoeHurst@snafu.de> wrote:
> Hi Tom,
>
> The source will come tomorrow (thursday), after I have removed all my
> debugging-output.
>
> Dale: If you want to, take the source into GFAWHELP.
>
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List Member "EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" <JoeHurst@snafu.de> wrote:
Hi Tom,

I've finished my UU En/Decoder this afternoon. It works only with files because
of string-limitations to 32 KB:
- encodes single files into single files or multiple volume-files
- decodes single-files and multiple volume-files
- Full (!) compatible with WinCode 2.73 when encoding/decoding
single/multi-volume-files in pure UU-mode (what means without MiMe-extensions
which will be a hard job).
- WinZIP is able to decode single-file encodings, but not multiple-volume-file
encodings - but this is a problem of WinZip!

If there is any more interest in the MiMe-extensions for UU, I'll implement it.
The source will come tomorrow (thursday), after I have removed all my
debugging-output.

Dale: If you want to, take the source into GFAWHELP.

Bye, Joe

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Hey, Joe
Souns much like a "WINNER" to me <G>.  I've never seen multiple files
in a UU except as components in a *.zip, so I see no problem.  I am
guessing the reasons behind not seeing this is because UU, like MIME,
increases the file's size by about 32%.  A *.zip my be only 10% as
compared to the original, then 32% doesn't matter much.  When a 1M is
UUed, 32% becomes very significant!  The whole idea of UU is to make
it possible to send binaries as text thru systems or appls that can't
handle 8-bit or MIME.

You've done well, my friend.  I'm anxious to see it.  All GFA_W users
owe you one on this <G>.
<G>
TomR.


At 08:26 PM 22/09/99 +0200, you wrote:
>List Member "EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" <JoeHurst@snafu.de> wrote:
>Hi Tom,
>
>I've finished my UU En/Decoder this afternoon. It works only with files because
>of string-limitations to 32 KB:
>- encodes single files into single files or multiple volume-files
>- decodes single-files and multiple volume-files
>- Full (!) compatible with WinCode 2.73 when encoding/decoding
>single/multi-volume-files in pure UU-mode (what means without MiMe-extensions
>which will be a hard job).
>- WinZIP is able to decode single-file encodings, but not multiple-volume-file
>encodings - but this is a problem of WinZip!
>
>If there is any more interest in the MiMe-extensions for UU, I'll implement it.
>The source will come tomorrow (thursday), after I have removed all my
>debugging-output.
>
>Dale: If you want to, take the source into GFAWHELP.
>
>Bye, Joe
>

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Subject: [gfabasic] UU Encode/Decode solution attached
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List Member "EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" <JoeHurst@snafu.de> wrote:
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Hi Tom, Dale, and the rest of you out there,

attached you'll find the first release of my encoding and decoding in UU-format.

Have fun,
  Bye, Joe

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List Member "EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" <JoeHurst@snafu.de> wrote:
Hi Jim,

what is your problem with filehandle '0'? This is a valid handle, in Windows 3.x
as in 32-bit-Windows. If the handle is not valid, it is '-1' (the constant is
called 'INVALID_FILE_HANDLE').
If you would use the standard-command OPEN, filehandles between '0' (!aaah!) and
'99' are allowed, so handle '0' is ok there, to.

Any comments to this by someone else?

Bye, Joe

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List Member "EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" <JoeHurst@snafu.de> wrote:
> I've never seen multiple files
> in a UU except as components in a *.zip, so I see no problem.  I am
Building multiple-files is reasonable for those (email/web)-clients which can't
handle messages greater than x bytes. Ok, these days have usually gone, but my
first Compuserve-WWW-browser (a software that died in the mean time) was only
able to handle mails up to 64 KB - much to less for the web.
If you search on the usenet today for some "cuties", you'll often find pictures
splitted in multiple-files. This means for me: there are a lot of
browser/newsreaders out there which do not name "Netcscape 100+x" or "IE 2000+".

But what I meant was something other:
WinZIP registers itself for all files with "UUE"-extension to decode (!) these
files, too. But WinZIP is not capable to read UUE-files which are splitted in
multiple-files when they do not have UUE-MiMe-headers.

> The whole idea of UU is to make it possible to send binaries as text thru
systems or appls that can't handle 8-bit or MIME.
:-) Thanks for explaining this complex theory to me.


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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
At 07:38 AM 23/09/99 +0200, you wrote:
>Hi Tom, Dale, and the rest of you out there,
>
>attached you'll find the first release of my encoding and decoding in
UU-format.
>
>Have fun,
>  Bye, Joe
>
>Attachment Converted: C:\WORLDNET\DOWNLOAD\uugfa16.zip
>

The sun will rise brightly tomorrow & the temperature will be modestly cool!

Thank you, Joe!
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Ahhh, So!  Humble beginner now see what honorable friend means!  Yes, you
refer to something like XferPro, I *think*.  XferPro will search all files
in the target dir to see if they are parts of a common file broken up into
segments as instructed by the originator.  If such files exist, they MUST
have UU first & last lines w/ part # designators or the only option is to
re-assemble the UU segments into a single file manually.  If the designators 
exist in the files, XferPro ignores all that exists in the e-mail before & 
after the designated segments & does it's own re-assembly as it decodes the 
one file they are all parts of.

I didn't consider that.  Shame on me!

As I understand it, some freebie e-mail systems don't handle attachments
at all & even have something like a 12K limit on text/UU.  This makes
*.zip & *.UUE partition quite necessary.

Thank you, Joe.
<G>
TomR.


At 07:54 AM 23/09/99 +0200, you wrote:
>List Member "EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" <JoeHurst@snafu.de> wrote:
>> I've never seen multiple files
>> in a UU except as components in a *.zip, so I see no problem.  I am
>Building multiple-files is reasonable for those (email/web)-clients which can't
>handle messages greater than x bytes. Ok, these days have usually gone, but my
>first Compuserve-WWW-browser (a software that died in the mean time) was only
>able to handle mails up to 64 KB - much to less for the web.
>If you search on the usenet today for some "cuties", you'll often find pictures
>splitted in multiple-files. This means for me: there are a lot of
>browser/newsreaders out there which do not name "Netcscape 100+x" or "IE
2000+".
>
>But what I meant was something other:
>WinZIP registers itself for all files with "UUE"-extension to decode (!) these
>files, too. But WinZIP is not capable to read UUE-files which are splitted in
>multiple-files when they do not have UUE-MiMe-headers.
>
>> The whole idea of UU is to make it possible to send binaries as text thru
>systems or appls that can't handle 8-bit or MIME.
>:-) Thanks for explaining this complex theory to me.
>
>
>Bye, Joe
>
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List Member Jim Pennington <Jim@x-act.net> wrote:

Joe,

I think you've hit the nail on the head! I didn't realize that "0" was
a valid handle. My previous testing and research on the "OPEN" and
"_lopen" commands showed that Windows (DOS) uses several file handles for
each process and you should never see a file handle below 5 or 6.
Logically then, if handle "0" is valid, then it would be a DOS file or
device, right?. While I was pondering this problem, I was working on the
next mysterious problem, and... guess what? I maintain an array of file
handles with "0" meaning the file is not open, and at the end of the
report, I inadvertantly closed a file that wasn't open (file handle "0")!
I just stepped on DOS!

Once again I thank everyone of this group for your help and contributions
to this list. I've really been under the gun on this project, but I will
try to get the serial port samples I promised uploaded this weekend.

Thanks Joe,

Jim Pennington
jim@x-act.net

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Hi Jim,
  
what is your problem with filehandle '0'? This is a valid handle, in Windows 3.x
as in 32-bit-Windows. If the handle is not valid, it is '-1' (the constant is
called 'INVALID_FILE_HANDLE').
If you would use the standard-command OPEN, filehandles between '0' (!aaah!) and
'99' are allowed, so handle '0' is ok there, to.

Any comments to this by someone else?

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List Member michael law <ekiml@bellatlantic.net> wrote:
TO ALL:
Is anybody aware of a Windows 95 version of GFABASIC? If so, when is it
expected to be released? I go back to the Atari ST versions of GFABASIC
and I really thought it to be a wonderful implementation of the BASIC
programming language. However, times have changed and just getting an
answer sans the bells and whistles is just not acceptable to most
software consumers, so I need to become a windows software programmer.
Any idea when we can expect GFA Win 95?

Thanks,
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List Member Christof.Schardt@t-online.de (Christof Schardt) wrote:
>Any idea when we can expect GFA Win 95?


I got a letter: it is available now.
510,-DM for GFA16-User, 890,-DM regular price.

But you should know, that the look and feel is rather
different now. The Syntax is VB-like.

And: Joe reported about 400 Errors.

So, be careful!

Bye
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List Member UlliStemmeler@t-online.de (Ulli Stemmeler) wrote:
Hallo Eberhard,

thanks for this, it works very well and gives the number of the CD the wa=
y I=20
need it (the same way it is saved in the CDplayer.ini of windows). So I c=
an=20
recognize the CDs and load all the informations the might were written in=
to this=20
ini-file. (Name of CD, artist, names of the tracks....).
Just one problem remains: how can I find out, what is the "audio-CD-drive=
" of=20
windows ? I haven=B4t found it yet in the win-ini and other files. This i=
s=20
important too, because putting an audio-cd in any drive doesn=B4t mean th=
at it=20
will be in the audio-drive. For example, I have 3 CD-drives (one writer a=
nd two=20
normal drives), but there=B4s only one drive connected to the sound-card =
to play=20
audio-cds... I also couldn=B4t find out this via MCI.

The audio-cd-player-programm should be able to do this (compiled):
- starting automatially when an audio-cd is inserted in the "audio-cd-dri=
ve".
  (That=B4s easy, the program has to be defined as default cd-player for =
windows)
- recognize the cd (for this the program has to know which is the=20
  "audio-cd-drive")
- look if there=B4s something about this audio-cd in the cdplayer.ini
- if it is so, read the information and use them (titles of tracks and so=
 on)
- if not, offer a dialogue to write and save this informations (for new c=
ds)...

It also would be nice if the program knows to read what is called "CD-Tex=
t".=20
That is something coming with some audio-cds: it brings all the informato=
ns=20
about tracks, artist and so on so that you can avoid to write it by hand.=
..

ok, thanks again...
greetings,
Ulli



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List Member UlliStemmeler@t-online.de (Ulli Stemmeler) wrote:
Hello,

two days ago I recieved a letter from GFA announcing that it now would be=
=20
possible to order GFA-Basic-32 or let=B4s call it GFA-basic for Win95.
They offer it for users of GFA-Basic-16 for a 510,- DeutschMarks (till th=
e end=20
of october) later they want more.
Has anybody an experience with this (for example a beta-version or so) ?
Will it be worth to change to it ?
As a "hobby"-programmer I am not sure if I should spend so much money.

Could we discuss and exchange experience about this GFA-basic-32 also her=
e ??

michael law schrieb:
List Member michael law <ekiml@bellatlantic.net> wrote:
TO ALL:
Is anybody aware of a Windows 95 version of GFABASIC? If so, when is it
expected to be released? I go back to the Atari ST versions of GFABASIC
and I really thought it to be a wonderful implementation of the BASIC
programming language. However, times have changed and just getting an
answer sans the bells and whistles is just not acceptable to most
software consumers, so I need to become a windows software programmer.
Any idea when we can expect GFA Win 95?

Thanks,
Mike Law
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> List Member Christof.Schardt@t-online.de (Christof Schardt) wrote:
>>Any idea when we can expect GFA Win 95?


The regular price for registered GFA16-User till 31.10.1999 is 510,00 DM and than 890,00 DM.
For all other (new user) 1.090,00 DM.


Ralf


> I got a letter: it is available now.
> 510,-DM for GFA16-User, 890,-DM regular price.

> But you should know, that the look and feel is rather
> different now. The Syntax is VB-like.

> And: Joe reported about 400 Errors.

> So, be careful!

> Bye
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Can someone convert this to dollars?
Are you saying that GB32 is ready to ship?

http://gfawhelp.gfa.net
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> List Member Ralf La Porte <rlaporte@rz-online.de> wrote:
> > List Member Christof.Schardt@t-online.de (Christof Schardt) wrote:
> >>Any idea when we can expect GFA Win 95?
>
>
> The regular price for registered GFA16-User till 31.10.1999 is 510,00 DM
and than 890,00 DM.
> For all other (new user) 1.090,00 DM.
>
>
> Ralf
>
>
> > I got a letter: it is available now.
> > 510,-DM for GFA16-User, 890,-DM regular price.
>
> > But you should know, that the look and feel is rather
> > different now. The Syntax is VB-like.
>
> > And: Joe reported about 400 Errors.
>
> > So, be careful!
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> > Bye
> > Christof
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
At 08:24 AM 23/09/99 -0700, you wrote:
>List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
>Can someone convert this to dollars?
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>http://gfawhelp.gfa.net
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Roughly 4DM/$US, Dale.  Varies, but usually around that.
Close enough for guessing, anyway.  Too rich for my blood!
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List Member "Eberhard Funck" <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de> wrote:


>>List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
>>Can someone convert this to dollars?
>>Are you saying that GB32 is ready to ship?
>
>Roughly 4DM/$US, Dale.  Varies, but usually around that.
>Close enough for guessing, anyway.  Too rich for my blood!
><G>
>TomR.


1 $US = 1,8752 DM from 23.09.99

Greetings

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
OK - new rates.  1-7/8 DM / $US, $0.50/DM, roughly.



At 07:37 PM 23/09/99 +0200, you wrote:
>List Member "Eberhard Funck" <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de> wrote:
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>>>List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
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>>>Are you saying that GB32 is ready to ship?
>>
>>Roughly 4DM/$US, Dale.  Varies, but usually around that.
>>Close enough for guessing, anyway.  Too rich for my blood!
>><G>
>>TomR.
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>1 $US = 1,8752 DM from 23.09.99
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>Greetings
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List Member "EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" <JoeHurst@snafu.de> wrote:
Please, all, stop talking, the discussion becomes 'silly'.

Let me say this to all of you (and pray that GFA won't try to bring me into any
court because of my signed non-disclosure-agreement!):

1. At the moment, GFA-Basic 32 (this is the correct spelling!) is _not_ ready
for shipping/sailing/selling.

2. GFA-Basic 32 will be ready for 1. in the very near future. We all know that
GFA often promised GFA-Basic 32 for a "near" future - but now it becomes
(finally) a truth!

3. When Christof says that 'Joe' has found over 400 bugs, he refers on an
unknown source, not to me! I am betatester, and, as usually, in a betatest
_very_ much problems are found out and I found some of these problems - but
that's the reason why beta-tests are made!

4. GFA-Basic 32 is, in my opinion, very good, but do not compare it to Visual
Basic (VB). VB has reached release 6.2, GFA-Basic 32 is release 1.0. But that is
no problem: versionitis is a problem housemade by Microsoft, not by GFA.
And that GFA-Basic 32 behaves a little bit like VB in the interpreter is no
other problem. Never forget that Windows-32-bit is a complete new world with a
complete new event-handling-background. This background is the same in Delphi,
Visual C++, Visual Basic - and in GFA-Basic 32. The interpreter learned some new
features - these are surely stolen in the worlds of IDEs in other programming
languages. But are new, working (!) features a desadvantage? No!

4.1. You can use GFA-Basic 32 in the old way with Sleep, On Menu... - it is
highly compatible with GFA-Basic 16. But if you want to program very fast
applications, you will use the new programming model with sub-events as it is
usual in C, Delphi and VB. But you can do this step by step and must not take a
bath in cold water...

5. My *private* opinion is that GFA-Basic 32 is much to expensive for upgraders
(510 german marks the first x weeks) and very much to expensive for newbies
(over 1000 german marks) - for this money you can get a "professional release of
Visual Basic 6.0 with a fantastic IDE. GFA-Basic 32 only offers the well-known
simple IDE.
But, remember some things:
- GFA is a very small company - MS is a monster.
- GFA has spent three years in GFA-Basic 32, MS has spent a decade.
- GFA-Basic 32 is Speedy-Gonzales, VB is comparable to the german snail-mail
(three days for a distance of 50 kilometers)
- GFA-Basic 32 is pure assembler (and so, pure assembler-opcodes in the source
are allowed!), VB is something between "uh", "ah", "sleep well", "have nice
dreams".

6. If you are a puritan programmer (and whyever do you use GFA-Basic 16?), you
will love GFA-Basic 32 and all its options. Sure, there are (at the moment) some
lacks which have to be filled:
- The documentation (as usual, so why cry out because of this?)
- The inpossibility to create DLLs (will come soon!)
- The inpossibility to use third-party-OCX (will come, but why? Use something
that I am not able to program myself? No access to the sourcecode? Not to be
able to fix errors???)

7. You all know that I am very critical against GFA-products, but for the small
hacks in-between, I always use GFA-Basic 16.

7.1. Now, with GFA-Basic 32, we have the first chance to produce 'real', big,
commercial applications (without _any_ support by third-party-products), you
have access to the complete windows-background and no more limitations of any
kind.

8. GFA-Basic 32 is not only for Windows 95. It is for *every* Intel-based
32-bit-Windows (NT 3.51, NT 4, Win95, Win98)

9. I _will_ update my GFA-Basic 16 license! That is no reason for anybody of you
to follow me! But do not say "it is to expensive for me , I use Delphi/VB
instead" and then cry out loud because you have no newsgroups/sources where you
can learn from. Instead, when using GFA-Basic 32, you can adapt VB-sources
without big brain-works and convert C/Delphi-sources with a little bit
brain-work. Which other language gives you so easy access to other
programming-worlds?

10. GFA-Basic 32 is expensive. But the calculation 1,- DM (german mark) = $4 is
complete rubbish. Do you have no newspapers in behind-australia?

I hope to have listed all I wanted to say and gave you some hints to think
about.
Bye, Joe

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List Member "EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" <JoeHurst@snafu.de> wrote:
> segments as instructed by the originator.  If such files exist, they MUST
> have UU first & last lines w/ part # designators or the only option is to
> re-assemble the UU segments into a single file manually.  If the designators
> exist in the files, XferPro ignores all that exists in the e-mail before &
> after the designated segments & does it's own re-assembly as it decodes the
> one file they are all parts of.
No! Tom! No!
Pure UU is a private problem of all newsreaders/proggies that say they "can"
handle UU - but only in their own formats!
So if you take a look at WinCode, you'll see it adds some extra-lines to the
spliited UU-files - and so it is able to decode these, too. My solution is
independent of these lines.
At all, and in my very honest opinion, multiple-UU-files are to be decoded by
their filenames - not by any inner comments/not-UU-lines. See some other coders
for UU which add lines like "Continued with file xxx" to their files - this is
not UU. They all use propiertary (???) commands where the UU-standard does not
say anything about it.
UU means only to encode with 3-to-4-conversation. Splitting into multiple files
is a private problem of each program.

What I tried to do is to be independent from any illegal comments, lines,
continue-args *in* the files - I *de*code by the filename (there are
possibilities to crash my source!).

Because much programs cannot handle multiple UU-files, MiMe-extensions have been
added as a 'standard' (funny: they call something 'standard' because they do not
know how to solve a problem...). In this files, extra-lines like the message-ID,
the "part x of y"-lines, comments ("content=ascii/multi..." :-) and other
information have been added.

So Mime-1.0-extensions and -compatibility is the next thing I will add to my
package.

In the version after next (???) I try is to add MiMe-Standard (what means
encoding in Base-64-style, MiMe 1.0 seems not to be Base-64???). You still have
my solution for MiMe, I'll do and add-on of it for my package to compile it into
an DLL for easy-use.

In corporation with Rolands POP3-program, my package will allow you to recieve
and send email with pure UU-attachments with GFA-Basic 16 via the web. So the
next release will allow to recieve MiMe-1.0-attachments and the after-next-one
will work with Base-64-encodings, too.
Anybody out there who will make a complete mail-client out of the parts? :-)

> I didn't consider that.  Shame on me!
Ok, Tom, don't worry. Gods are there to help mankind! <The biggest grin of all>

> As I understand it, some freebie e-mail systems don't handle attachments
> at all & even have something like a 12K limit on text/UU.
Yes, that's right. Even this is not only a freebie-problem and 12k is not the
limit (for most it is 32/654 k, an old DOS/Windows-3.1-problem with memory
limitations for RAM-blocks).

Bye, Joe

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Thank you, MichaUp3  Sejfried,

because of the f*ck*ng html-tags in your mail, Outlkook 98 tries to load
down the "PAN-european language-support" for my computer...

Do you really believe that your personal (!) mail  to Peter X. in this
mailing-list will find much more readers when you write black-on-colored
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Joe


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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
At the moment I don't have access to my 486 so I can't identify
the main *.exe for AOL.

Would someone on AOL please send me the name?  I also need to know
the subdirs, etc., used for maintaining history & cache.

They'll probably be different for 16-bit & 32-bit.

Thanks
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List Member "Georg Veichtlbauer" <veichtlbauer@gmx.at> wrote:
Joe, I have to agree with you...
GFA-32 is a good (!) thing... but - at the moment - VC and VB are better...
But this may change if more bugs get fixed and the full functionality will
be implemented...

We will see...
 Georg

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List Member Barlik@aol.com wrote:
At current exchange rate, 510 Marks = $274.19 US
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
23/09/99 06:40:29 PM   UU, et.al.   2309XX1-

To all interested parties:

Not wishing to anger anybody or to try to pull the wool over any eyes, 
I speak from personal experience that reaches back to 1994.  Yes, I'm
realatively new to personal computers - I got started with a TRS80
Model 4, back in 1985.  I went PC in 1993.

To keep the record straight (no pun intended!), Juno had a file limit 
of 12K, at least in the beginning.  Juno would not handle attachments. 
 I ran into other freebie e-mail providers that had limits of 12K & 
18K.  I've NO idea why the limits were set, nor why those particular 
values were chosen.  I know only that they existed.  Things may be 
different today.

For me, WinCode is a loser.  A long time ago, I paid 2wice ($10US) for 
the helpfile & NEVER received even one copy.  I had a running hassle 
with the author for over a year before I finally told him to keep my 
money because he obviously needed it far more than I did.  At that 
time, WinCode was free, but one had to pay for the helpfile or forget 
being able to figure out how to use it.

I tried using XferPro v1 (free, unlimited demo), & decided it was 
worth paying the $20US to register.  I have little idea what real 
difference it made to register because I noticed no changes except the 
bootup screen nolonger said "unregistered".  I used it for 6 months 
before registering.

I was in Hawaii & needed a means of moving files to & from the 
mainland because I was alpha/beta testing a major genealogy program.

The following bits & pieces are XferPro's output for the same file.  
First, without CRC, 2nd, with CRC.  The bulk of the actual code lines 
are omitted.  XferPro searches all files in the target decode dir & 
determines which files are UU & which are not.  It arranges 
re-assembly in the proper order before decoding the actual encoded 
file.  XferPro ignores anything in an e-mail or other text file that 
precedes the first line(s) below or follows the last line(s) below.


CLOCK.EXE    section  1/8   UUXFER 2.0 by Sabasoft, Inc.

BEGIN----------------------CUT HERE--------------------------
begin 644 CLOCK.EXE
M35I@``$````$`!``__\``/X````2````0```````````````````````````
++++++++++
MN`(`NA@/D`[H=B>0#NBM)YO<'D@`F]_@GG9IN`(`NA@/D`[H6R>0#NB2)YO<
END------------------------CUT HERE--------------------------


CLOCK.EXE    section  1/8   UUXFER 2.0 by Sabasoft, Inc.

BEGIN----------------------CUT HERE--------------------------
begin 644 CLOCK.EXE
M35I@``$````$`!``__\``/X````2````0```````````````````````````
++++++++++++++
MN`(`NA@/D`[H=B>0#NBM)YO<'D@`F]_@GG9IN`(`NA@/D`[H6R>0#NB2)YO<

sum -r/size 3613/5724 section (from "begin" to last encoded line)
END------------------------CUT HERE--------------------------

Addressing the GFA32 question... I can NOT afford it!  I don't
care what advantages it *might* have over VB... if I can't pay
for it, I don't need it.  I already have VB2, paid & registered.
It seems that VB2 can handle *.OCX, so I don't understand why
GFAW-16 can't, much less the new 32-bit version!  It appears that
*.ocx is just another name for *.dll with some differences in the
calling conventions.  Many are compiled as *.dll, then the extension
is changed to *.ocx!  I have various authors' comments on this!

Since none of them use GFA-W, they can't explain the differences in
a manner that allows me to use their modules with GFA-W 16-bit.

'nuff said.
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List Member Wolfgang Schindler <w.schindler@josefstal.de> wrote:
> 5. My *private* opinion is that GFA-Basic 32 is much to expensive for u=
pgraders
> (510 german marks the first x weeks) and very much to expensive for new=
bies
> (over 1000 german marks)

I think, GfA should offer its new Basic_32 for teachers and others for a
heavily reduced price - this might help to get more sold licenses on the
long run.

On my part, I'll keep basic_16 (v.4.38), until the update-price is
somewhat around 100US-$ or 200 DM.

mit freundlichen / herzlichen Gr=FC=DFen

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List Member UlliStemmeler@t-online.de (Ulli Stemmeler) wrote:

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Hello,

it is easy to set start and end-points of a video using:
MCI "play "+alias$+" from "+str$(startframe)+" to "+str$(endframe) //+" r=
epeat"
just fill the variables with the desired frame-numbers. You can add "repe=
at" to=20
repeat the desired part of the video...

If you want to use another time format than frames (I guess this is the d=
efault=20
with avis), use:

MCI "set "+alias$+" time format ms" // example,
this changes the time format to milliseconds. doing this you have to use=20
milliseconds for the start- and endpoint as well.

see the the small example "VIDEO.LST" in the attachment....

Greetings,
Ulli Stemmeler

M=FCnster/Germany


Micha=B3 Sejfried schrieb:
Hi. Here Peter.

I have a problem with playing AVI files. I want starting animation not fr=
om=20
begin, but from my own position. For e.g. Animation file has 3 minutes. I=
 want=20
start play from 1 minut and 10 seconds and end to 2 minut or start for e.=
g. from=20
250 picture and end on 600. If You may, please help me.

My e-mail: 42810730@pro.onet.pl

Thanks, bye

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List Member John Findlay <Jayef@compuserve.com> wrote:

Joe,

>I hope to have listed all I wanted to say and gave you some hints to thi=
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List Member "FUIAX" <bernd.barwig@mbi-net.de> wrote:
GFA-basic 32 ist schlicht zu teuer. Als Lehrer steht mir Visualbasic
kostenlos zur Verf=FCgung. Ich bin gespannt, ob ein annnehmbares Angebot =
f=FCr
Schulen/Lehrer von GFA gemacht wird.

An die Mitleser von GFA: Welcher Sch=FCler - angehende Student - soll den=
n so
einen Haufen Geld ausgeben???


bitte nachdenken ...


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List Member "FUIAX" <bernd.barwig@mbi-net.de> wrote:
Ich bin gespannt, wann GFA-BASIC 32 im usenet in den einschl=E4gigen
news-groups auftaucht. Wer soll denn das kaufen zu diesen Mondpreisen?

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List Member "EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" <JoeHurst@snafu.de> wrote:
> GFA-32 is a good (!) thing... but - at the moment - VC and VB are better...
Oops - this is not what I wanted to say - each language of the names ones has
its advantages. Even GFA-Basic 32, and that is why I will buy it (but only, if I
recieve a letter by GFA, too, like all the other german users :-( ).

> But this may change if more bugs get fixed
The first release will be very usuable without many bugs.

> and the full functionality will be implemented...
The first update (GFA-Basic 1.5 / 2???) is available until the end of this year
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
HouseKeeper is on the roll again.  I am making refinements.

I have data for MSIE, Netscape, & Opera.  I can currently remove all=20
traces of internet activity by selection.

I know that there are other browsers in use, but do not have the=20
details.

If you use a browser not listed above, please e-mail me with the=20
following:

Name of the major *.exe, such as "opera.exe".
Name of the cookie file, such as "cookie.dat".
Name of the visited links file, such as "vlnk.dat".
  The above may be called "history.htm", etc.
Name(s) of any other such file(s) you think you might want to=20
eliminate.
Anything that might allow others to discover where you've been on the
internet.

I have only the *.exe for AOL - would somebody please send me the rest?

I will institute a non-recoverable delete, whereby the files to be=20
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further user safety, I'll also rename each file to a series of numbers.
No "dump" or "list" will be able to retrieve very much info this way.


HouseKeeper ist um  br=F6tchen abermalig.  ICH bin making refinements.

ICH habe material f=FCr MSIE, Netscape, & Opera.  ICH d=FCrfen nu=20
abschaffen alle spur ab internet t=E4tigkeit an anwahl.

ICH kennen da=DF da/es sind anderer browsers im benutzen, ausgenommen=20
anfertigen nein habe  details.

Falls du/sie benutzen ein browser nein listed oberhalb, bitte e-mail=20
mir mit  folgend:

Name ab  major *.exe, sowie "opera.exe".
Name ab das pl=E4tzchen datei, sowie "cookie.dat".
Name ab  visited links datei, sowie "vlnk.dat".
   oberhalb mai hei=DFen "history.htm", etc.
Name(s) ab ein gewisser anderer derartige datei(s) sie glaube sie kann=20
bedarf an ausschalten.
Etwas da=DF kann lassen andere an abdecken war sie habe been um internet.

ICH habe allein  *.exe f=FCr AOL - sollten ein gewisser bitte schicken=20
mir  bestand?

ICH wollen anstalt ein non-recoverable wischen, wodurch  dateien an=20
sein losch wollen erste sein filled mit zeros (0) j=FCngst deleting=20
ihnen & f=FCr weiter benutzer  sicherheit, ICH wollen auch rename jede=20
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d=FCrfen retten sehr info dies angewohnheit.

Sorry, Tolken97 needs to learn more German.
<G>
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List Member "Roland Walter" <roland@rowalt.de> wrote:
O.K., some words about GFA-Basic 32 from me too. I am GFA32 beta
tester and know it from the very first days of beta test.
Also I hope I am not the most bad programmer to know what I say.
I do my comments along of some sentences of Joachim Hurst.

> 4. GFA-Basic 32 is, in my opinion, very good, but do not compare it to Visual
> Basic (VB). VB has reached release 6.2, GFA-Basic 32 is release 1.0.

I think there are some much more important questions:
1.) VB prevents all direct access of the system. With GFA32 you are
    absolutely free to do anythink. This is very important for
    engeneers for example.
2.) GFA32 is gigantic faster then VB: believe me, a comparison
    results a terrific result for VB.
3.) The EXE files are more efficient (and smaller) then VB files
4.) The EXE files are no pseudo code as in VB, but real code
5.) Just in interpreter the program runs much faster than in VB

> 5. My *private* opinion is that GFA-Basic 32 is much to expensive [...]

Yes, it is. I very hope GFA will think over this. Especially for
private and non- or "low-" commercial users it's really a problem.
I do not kow if GFA will provide a free trial version as the
1000-lines-GFA16 but if not the "tell-the-neighbor-promotion" will
be switched out.
I think just as Wolfgang Schindler wrote:  "I think, GfA should offer
its new Basic_32 for teachers and others for a heavily reduced
price -this might help to get more sold licenses on the long run."

> [...] for this money you can get a "professional release of
> Visual Basic 6.0 with a fantastic IDE. GFA-Basic 32 only offers the
> well-known simple IDE.

Oh, I hate the VB IDE. It's just as a flashy-colored street journals,
very blind to hide the bad result. The GFA32 IDE is more based on
"engeneer-thinking": functional I would say.
My problem is more that I more like code similar to C then similar
to VB.

O.K. that was my stuff for the discussion ;-)

Bye, Roland

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List Member John Findlay <Jayef@compuserve.com> wrote:

Roland,

> O.K. that was my stuff for the discussion ;-) <

Good stuff!

> My problem is more that I more like code similar to C then similar to V=
B.
<

Joe said, > it is highly compatible with GFA-Basic 16 <

Will the code below not be possible using the 'C' style?

  WHILE GetMessage(*msg., NULL, 0, 0)

    ~TranslateMessage(*msg.)
    ~DispatchMessage(*msg.)

  WEND


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List Member "Georg Veichtlbauer" <veichtlbauer@gmx.at> wrote:
> Sorry, Tolken97 needs to learn more German.
Absolutely right, Tom! The translation sounds (reads) horrible...! Its even
worse than my English... and that has something to say!!! :)

Georg

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List Member "Georg Veichtlbauer" <veichtlbauer@gmx.at> wrote:
> Will the code below not be possible using the 'C' style?

This code IS possible in GFA32 !


Georg

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
At 03:56 PM 25/09/99 +0200, you wrote:
>List Member "Georg Veichtlbauer" <veichtlbauer@gmx.at> wrote:
>> Sorry, Tolken97 needs to learn more German.
>Absolutely right, Tom! The translation sounds (reads) horrible...! Its even
>worse than my English... and that has something to say!!! :)
>
>Georg
>

Georg
Tolken97 is a $20US shareware.  It is about 17,000 times as fast
as a $160US commercial program that takes about an hour for each
5K of text, then doesn't translate even half of it.

Tolken97 is Swedish.  German->English isn't nearly as bad as the
other for grammer, etc.

Maybe I should keep at *my* translator?
<G>
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
You fellers from Germany really have nothing to be ashamed of
when discussing speaking or writing in another language.  As 
is typical, you do a better job in English than the average
American or Englishman can do in yours or any other.

55 yrs ago, I was fairly fluent in German.  Today, I use a
dictionary & software on the computer because I hardly even
recognize your language any more.

One thing you guys do that really hurts is that you use a
kind of "vernacular" - a localized slang or dialect, in your
notes & comments in your programming.  I don't think *any* 
translator can swallow that whole.  I am building a large
file of phrases, but I suspect they may make little sense
when going from English to German because of dialects.

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List Member BDD <BrentDeck@compuserve.com> wrote:

Question:

Presume one creates the following 2 types GFA, each having a field named
Fieldx:

  TYPE vtest1:
  - WORD field x
  - WORD a
  - WORD b
  ENDTYPE

 TYPE vtest2:
  - WORD x
  - WORD y
  - WORD fieldx
 ENDTYPE

Now presume that I want to access the data in a record of type vtest1, bu=
t
that record has no name, just an address.
GFA does not allow aliasing variable names to memory locations. How can I=

be certain that  =


a =3D {lpRecord}.fieldx =


returns the first field, and not the third field of my record?

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List Member "Georg Veichtlbauer" <veichtlbauer@gmx.at> wrote:
Well, maybe you should give your own translator a chance... :)


> One thing you guys do that really hurts is that you use a kind of
"vernacular"
> I don't think *any* translator can swallow that whole.
My opinion, Tom..! But not all German-speakers put such phrases in their
programs... I just found out that Joe (YES - you, Joe... :) writes MANY of
those phrases... Like Joe's Editor... believe me... i translated that
monster... :)


Georg

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List Member michael law <ekiml@bellatlantic.net> wrote:
To All:

I wrote a DOS program to help me calculate polymer solvent interactions.
I had decided to share this software with others. When unzipped in a
sub directory this program can be executed by typing: STARTUP
I am look for a Windows based application software to port this program
to Windows. I have experimented with a number of Windows application
development tools. But I need some thing that does not make "HELLO
WORLD" a 1 megabyte application. The DOS programs are in modules in
totality are many megs. Any suggestions on a compact windows basic
application language? Is GFA compact?


Much Thanks


http://hotfiles.zdnet.com/cgi-bin/texis/swlib/hotfiles/info.html?fcode=000NEC&b=

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List Member John Findlay <Jayef@compuserve.com> wrote:

Brent,

> How can I be certain that  =


a =3D {lpRecord}.fieldx =


returns the first field, and not the third field of my record?


When creating TYPE's one should make sure that all fields have a unique
name.

If the fields are not unique you will get an 'element redefinition' error=
,
no?

Example;

  TYPE vtest1:
  - WORD field1x
  - WORD a
  - WORD b
  ENDTYPE

 TYPE vtest2:
  - WORD x
  - WORD y
  - WORD field2x
 ENDTYPE

Hope that helps.

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List Member "Georg Veichtlbauer" <veichtlbauer@gmx.at> wrote:
GFA Basic is VERY compact... and it runs VERY fast....
If you do not need the advantages of Win32 (like when porting a DOS
application), its pretty easy to code. I would recommend it for you...


Regards,
 Georg

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List Member "B.M.C.S." <bmcs@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>>Please, all, stop talking, the discussion becomes 'silly'.<<

At your command SIR !!!

>> 10.	GFA-Basic 32 is expensive. But the calculation 1,- DM (german mark) =
$4 is complete rubbish. Do you have no newspapers in behind-australia?<<

Until now I have not seen any contributions to this thread from anyone in
Australia. Only someone who has does not have first-hand knowledge of the
country, would describe it as 'behind-australia'. In answer to your
rhetorical question, yes they do have newspapers in Australia and a number
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List Member BDD <BrentDeck@compuserve.com> wrote:

>>If the fields are not unique you will get an 'element redefinition'
error,
no?

John,

Thanks for the prompt response.

I did not realize how totally GFA had bungled the concept of types.
I guess the best thing to do is to make the type name a part of the field=

name, so there can be no confusion.

This could lead to carpal-tunnel syndrome at the keyboard.

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List Member "EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" <JoeHurst@snafu.de> wrote:
> application language? Is GFA compact?
It is. As far as I know there is no other compiler which produces smaller files
that do not need any runtime-libraries (GFA-Basic for Windows 4.38, 16 it).

GFA-Basic 32 needs a runtime-OCX (~1 MB), but the pure exe is very compact, too.
No comparision to VB and others...

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List Member "EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" <JoeHurst@snafu.de> wrote:
Hi BMCS,

please, it was thought as a joke, believe me!

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Hoooo, Doggies!  That 4DM/$US was *me*.  I don't have the newspaper clipping
handy that gives exchange rates, but then, I'm in 'backwoods-america'.  Not
'behind-australia' <GGG>!  Jeeze, the twists & turns a discussion can take.
TomR.
Tulsa (WhereTheHellAmI), Oklahoma, U.S.A.


At 09:25 PM 26/09/99 +1000, you wrote:
>List Member "B.M.C.S." <bmcs@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>>>Please, all, stop talking, the discussion becomes 'silly'.<<
>
>At your command SIR !!!
>
>>> 10.	GFA-Basic 32 is expensive. But the calculation 1,- DM (german mark) =
>$4 is complete rubbish. Do you have no newspapers in behind-australia?<<
>
>Until now I have not seen any contributions to this thread from anyone in
>Australia. Only someone who has does not have first-hand knowledge of the
>country, would describe it as 'behind-australia'. In answer to your
>rhetorical question, yes they do have newspapers in Australia and a number
>of european newspapers are owned by Australians.
>
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>Dave Barton
>bmcs@ozemail.com.au
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List Member BDD <BrentDeck@compuserve.com> wrote:
>I did not realize how totally GFA had bungled the concept of types.
>I guess the best thing to do is to make the type name a part of the fiel=
d
>name, so there can be no confusion.

John,

Perhaps I'm being harsh. =


Since it is common practice in C for the programmer to merge the structur=
e
name
into the field name, doing so in GFA should not be such an inconvenience.=

It certainly makes the program more readable.

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Brent

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List Member "Colin Elphick" <celphick@sydpcug.org.au> wrote:
I think the term that was meant was "outback Australia". I'm from Sydney and
up till now I have been learning to use GFA.

-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net>
To: gfabasic@gfa.net <gfabasic@gfa.net>
Date: Monday, 27 September 1999 6:18
Subject: RE: [gfabasic] Windows 95 GFABASIC


>List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>Hoooo, Doggies!  That 4DM/$US was *me*.  I don't have the newspaper
clipping
>handy that gives exchange rates, but then, I'm in 'backwoods-america'.  Not
>'behind-australia' <GGG>!  Jeeze, the twists & turns a discussion can take.
>TomR.
>Tulsa (WhereTheHellAmI), Oklahoma, U.S.A.
>
>
>At 09:25 PM 26/09/99 +1000, you wrote:
>>List Member "B.M.C.S." <bmcs@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>>>>Please, all, stop talking, the discussion becomes 'silly'.<<
>>
>>At your command SIR !!!
>>
>>>> 10. GFA-Basic 32 is expensive. But the calculation 1,- DM (german mark)
=
>>$4 is complete rubbish. Do you have no newspapers in behind-australia?<<
>>
>>Until now I have not seen any contributions to this thread from anyone in
>>Australia. Only someone who has does not have first-hand knowledge of the
>>country, would describe it as 'behind-australia'. In answer to your
>>rhetorical question, yes they do have newspapers in Australia and a number
>>of european newspapers are owned by Australians.
>>
>>Regards,
>>Dave Barton
>>bmcs@ozemail.com.au
>>
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List Member Engel Nobbe <bluez@celestial.demon.nl> wrote:
Gents, my apologies to jump in, as I've just subscribed and do have no idea at
all what went on before :-)

But ehm... you're talking about the new GFA32 as if it was available... I've
just visited the GFA site, and there's no mention of it... enlighten me
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List Member "Roland Walter" <roland@rowalt.de> wrote:
> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> You fellers from Germany really have nothing to be ashamed of
> when discussing speaking or writing in another language.

Yes! I also please all germans to use --->english<--- in the list.
But comments in listings are another problem. Listings with german
comments could sometimes be better then nothing ;-)
Also I more like to speak english with people from Russia even
if they can speak german. It needs minor concentration then
to speak *simple* german :-))))) Really! I have a speculation
only how often I use extremely long and complicated-built
sentences I use and also phrases which whole content differs
extremly from the content af all words...

One example:                 "Ich bringe dich um die Ecke"
is translated word by word:  "I bring You around the corner"
but correctly translated:    "I will kill You"

To know this could save Your life...

Bye, Roland


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List Member John Findlay <Jayef@compuserve.com> wrote:

Brent,

> Perhaps I'm being harsh. <

Go right ahead! :)

> Since it is common practice in C for the programmer to merge the
structure name into the field name, doing so in GFA should not be such an=

inconvenience. It certainly makes the program more readable. <

Do whatever suits. Many 'Windows' structures have fields with the same na=
me
so when using GFA one has to do something.


Regards,

John

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List Member "Andras Szalay" <a.szalay@mail.matav.hu> wrote:
>>One example:                 "Ich bringe dich um die Ecke"
>>is translated word by word:  "I bring You around the corner"
>>but correctly translated:    "I will kill You"
>>
>>To know this could save Your life...
>>

Mis-translations can be sometimes dangerous, sometimes just funny. 
I am neither german nor english, but I am fluent in both languages.
Just a few days ago somebody wrote in this forum:
"It is very sinful"
I just wondered a moment, because the sentence was perfectly correct,
but it did not make any sense in the situation. Then I thought, this must 
be somebody from Germany (indeed he was) and he translated his thought
"es ist sehr sinnvoll" to english. What he wanted to say is "it makes sense".
Did anybody recognize that?

Andras

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Colin
There is a bit of "string jerking" going on here <G>.  Perhaps you didn't
note the (')s around the phrase(s).  'behind' could be anywhere in the
world, depending on one's location, tho, so might "apply" <G>.  For me,
it would mean possibly New Zealand or Antarctica.

Welcome to our group - we look forward to seeing you join into the fun.
<G>
TomR.


At 04:25 PM 27/09/99 +1000, you wrote:
>List Member "Colin Elphick" <celphick@sydpcug.org.au> wrote:
>I think the term that was meant was "outback Australia". I'm from Sydney and
>up till now I have been learning to use GFA.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net>
>To: gfabasic@gfa.net <gfabasic@gfa.net>
>Date: Monday, 27 September 1999 6:18
>Subject: RE: [gfabasic] Windows 95 GFABASIC
>
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>>List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>>Hoooo, Doggies!  That 4DM/$US was *me*.  I don't have the newspaper
>clipping
>>handy that gives exchange rates, but then, I'm in 'backwoods-america'.  Not
>>'behind-australia' <GGG>!  Jeeze, the twists & turns a discussion can take.
>>TomR.
>>Tulsa (WhereTheHellAmI), Oklahoma, U.S.A.
>>
>>
>>At 09:25 PM 26/09/99 +1000, you wrote:
>>>List Member "B.M.C.S." <bmcs@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>Please, all, stop talking, the discussion becomes 'silly'.<<
>>>
>>>At your command SIR !!!
>>>
>>>>> 10. GFA-Basic 32 is expensive. But the calculation 1,- DM (german mark)
>=
>>>$4 is complete rubbish. Do you have no newspapers in behind-australia?<<
>>>
>>>Until now I have not seen any contributions to this thread from anyone in
>>>Australia. Only someone who has does not have first-hand knowledge of the
>>>country, would describe it as 'behind-australia'. In answer to your
>>>rhetorical question, yes they do have newspapers in Australia and a number
>>>of european newspapers are owned by Australians.
>>>
>>>Regards,
>>>Dave Barton
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List Member Engel Nobbe <bluez@celestial.demon.nl> wrote:
How can I see if a window has been maximized? Thanks in advance...


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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Hi Engel,
Welcome to the list.
Well, we think it is just around the corner.
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> List Member Engel Nobbe <bluez@celestial.demon.nl> wrote:
> Gents, my apologies to jump in, as I've just subscribed and do have no
idea at
> all what went on before :-)
>
> But ehm... you're talking about the new GFA32 as if it was available...
I've
> just visited the GFA site, and there's no mention of it... enlighten me
> please...
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List Member "Eberhard Funck" <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de> wrote:
With following API functions you see
if a window is maximized or minimized

Eberhard

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
BOOL IsZoomed(hwnd)

HWND hwnd; /* handle of window */


The IsZoomed function determines
whether the given window is maximized.

Parameter Description

hwnd Identifies the window.

Returns

The return value is nonzero if the window is maximized.
Otherwise, it is zero.

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
BOOL IsIconic(hwnd)

HWND hwnd; /* handle of window */


The IsIconic function determines
whether the given window is minimized (iconic).

Parameter Description

hwnd Identifies the window.

Returns

The return value is nonzero if the window is minimized.
Otherwise, it is zero.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

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>List Member Engel Nobbe <bluez@celestial.demon.nl> wrote:
>How can I see if a window has been maximized? Thanks in advance...
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List Member "EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" <JoeHurst@snafu.de> wrote:
> I think the term that was meant was "outback Australia". I'm from Sydney and
Thank you, my english is very poor sometimes...

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List Member "EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" <JoeHurst@snafu.de> wrote:
> One example:                 "Ich bringe dich um die Ecke"
> is translated word by word:  "I bring You around the corner"
But if you say this to an old, blind, shivering, ... man (Tom? :-)) who has lost
his way it would be very gentle.

> but correctly translated:    "I will kill You"
Do this with the old, blind, shivering, ... man and you please his family.

Oops, that was hard, I know!

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List Member "EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" <JoeHurst@snafu.de> wrote:
> handy that gives exchange rates, but then, I'm in 'backwoods-america'.  Not
> 'behind-australia' <GGG>!
Swim far enough and then, walk as deep into the forrests as possible, than you
are somewhere behind-Australia...  I *knew* I was right ;-))

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List Member "EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" <JoeHurst@snafu.de> wrote:
Why do you use the API? In GFA-Basic, there are two buid-in-functions:
Zoomed?(win) and Iconic?(win) which do the same job for GFA-Basic-Windows.

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
At 09:25 PM 27/09/99 +0200, you wrote:
>List Member "EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" <JoeHurst@snafu.de> wrote:
>> One example:                 "Ich bringe dich um die Ecke"
>> is translated word by word:  "I bring You around the corner"
>But if you say this to an old, blind, shivering, ... man (Tom? :-)) who has
lost
>his way it would be very gentle.
>
>> but correctly translated:    "I will kill You"
>Do this with the old, blind, shivering, ... man and you please his family.
>
>Oops, that was hard, I know!
>
>Bye, Joe
>

Now I know somebody I'm gonna haunt for ever'n ever!
<GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG>
"an old, blind, shivering, ... man" indeed!  Young
pup!

"who has lost his way"  INDEED!  *I* KNOW where I am,
do you?

"and you please his family"... nah, no insurance to collect.
<G>
TomR.

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
At 09:25 PM 27/09/99 +0200, you wrote:
>List Member "EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" <JoeHurst@snafu.de> wrote:
>> I think the term that was meant was "outback Australia". I'm from Sydney and
>Thank you, my english is very poor sometimes...
>
>Bye, Joe
>

Terminalogy, terminalogy, terminalogy!  To most Americans, "outback" would
refer to that area behind the house.  To a Texan however, it could be any 
of the other 49 states <G>.  Good to see that everybody now has a sense of 
humor (even if sometimes a tiny bit distorted <G>).

Joe... the swim I might handle OK, but the walk, nah.  I can handle about
200 meters, max.  Besides, if you walk in the woods you're likely to pick 
up a few ticks & they make nasty sores where they bite.  Some carry Lyme's
Disease & there's little can be done for it... you usually die.
<G>
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List Member "B.M.C.S." <bmcs@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
Alternatively, you could evaluate WM_SIZE in the message loop. wParam =
SIZEFULLSCREEN (Maximized).

Regards
Dave Barton

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List Member "EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" <JoeHurst@snafu.de> wrote:
Why do you use the API? In GFA-Basic, there are two buid-in-functions:
Zoomed?(win) and Iconic?(win) which do the same job for GFA-Basic-Windows.

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List Member "B.M.C.S." <bmcs@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>>"who has lost his way"  INDEED!  *I* KNOW where I am, do you?<<

Are you sure? After all that swimming and walking you could be wandering
aimlessly around 'in-behind' / 'outback' Oz. <G>

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
At 10:39 AM 28/09/99 +1000, you wrote:
>List Member "B.M.C.S." <bmcs@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>>>"who has lost his way"  INDEED!  *I* KNOW where I am, do you?<<
>
>Are you sure? After all that swimming and walking you could be wandering
>aimlessly around 'in-behind' / 'outback' Oz. <G>
>
>Dave Barton
>

Dave
Should 'at ever happin, if I yell, wouldja come lead me back out/in?
Howsome ever, shouldn't ever hoppin, mate... I'm always aimin to go/get
*somewhere*.  That's even if I donno where it is <G>!  The Aussie coast
I'm most familiar with is a high cliff where the dingo fence ends.  I
watch a lot of Discovery Channel on TV.  That cliff is about my 200 meter
walking limit <G> & it's straight UP!
<G>
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List Member Christof.Schardt@t-online.de (Christof Schardt) wrote:
Task:
Print out something by opening an arbitrary printer
using arbitrary settings (without a print-dialog before).

Related task: Read the settings from an opened printer (the
settings, that were choosen in the printer-options-dialog),
save them in your application and restore them next time,
you call the print-function.

Question:
Has anyone a working code-example?

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List Member Jim Pennington <Jim@x-act.net> wrote:
** Reply to note from Dale Bryant <adbryant@msn.com> Mon, 27 Sep 1999 10:08:44 -0800


> >How do I get the length of a file on a disk? 
> >Do I have to open it (in order to get a file handle) and then get the  
> >file length of this handle? 
> >Or is their a faster more efficient way to do this? 
>  
>  
> If the file is open, you can use the filelength() function. 
> "The return value of the filelength() function is the full length of 
> the file in bytes, including any EOF characters. The return value 
> returns the same file size value as the DIR command from the MS-DOS, 
> OS/2, or Windows NT prompt."

What is the function filelength()?

For this purpose, I have always used the following:

1. If the file is open and "OPEN" was used, obviously file_size%=LOF(#n)
will work.

2. If the file was opened with OpenFile() or _lopen(), you can use
file_size%=_llseek(handle%,0,2) to set the file pointer to the end of
file. Don't forget to save/restore the current position if required.

3. If the file is not open, the following will work:

     dta%=FGETDTA()
     e%=FSFIRST(filename$,-1)
     file_size%=LONG{dta%+26}

I'm sure there are other ways as well.

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List Member "Eberhard Funck" <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de> wrote:
Hi Jo,
I work only with API functions in my applications.
In the meantime, I have forgotten all this GFA Basic
functions.

Greetings

Eberhard

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>List Member "EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" <JoeHurst@snafu.de> wrote:
>Why do you use the API? In GFA-Basic, there are two buid-in-functions:
>Zoomed?(win) and Iconic?(win) which do the same job for GFA-Basic-Window=
s.
>
>Bye, Joe
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List Member "Bev & Lou Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
Hi:

I've been playing with this thing for months; the old INTR $25 worked fine
before FAT32 came along; . Of course, it has been dropped (sorry, still
works for FAT12 or FAT16 but not FAT32); we now are suppose to use the new
INTR$21 sub $7305 (read) or $7306 (write). I get the same data no matter
which logical drive I try to access.

Any ideas out there!!!

                                                   ->Bev<--

'
PROCEDURE Get_Data(xsec,numsec)       /* 'xsec'=start sector
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  buf$ = SPACE$(numsec * 512)
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the change from 'dsk' to 'dsk-1'
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Yes, these are dumb questions!  Just how big a string can be
printed to a file?  According to all I know, 32768 is 32K.

I get "string too long" on anything above 32700!

Another interesting "hidden"... for a line like:
print #1,G$  (saying G$ is 16 bytes, for example,
_18_ bytes are written!  There is an h0D h0A tacked
onto the end.  One expects to write 16 bytes, but 
actually writes 18!  Every "write" is two bytes
longer than the content of the write.  Using
PRINT #1,G$; can easily result in a file that few
text appl can open because the written string is 
'way the hell over over the 32K limit!

GFA-W (16) has a problem w/ EOF(), so I try to use
LOF() & LOC().  A problem with this is that some
activity does NOT yield a LOC()!

To avoid deleting a file & remaking it a 0-byte file
by using OPEN "o", I use OPEN "U" to write to it and
change the contents.  This appears to not have use of
LOC(), so I have to manually keep track of where I am
in the file.  For some goofy reason, I'm not being
successful at this.
<G>
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List Member Pat Bullman <pbullman@norex.com.au> wrote:
Tom,

I can help a little.

>print #1,G$  (saying G$ is 16 bytes, for example,
>_18_ bytes are written!  There is an h0D h0A tacked

The print function by default appends a CR LF sequence.  When printing to
the screen this sets the position for the next print statement to the next
line.  Similarly, when printing to a file the CR LF sequence is added so
that the next print command will print to the next "line".  To overcome it
simply put a semi-colon at the end of the statement eg "PRINT #1, G$"
becomes "PRINT #1, G$;".

>GFA-W (16) has a problem w/ EOF(), so I try to use
>LOF() & LOC().  A problem with this is that some
>activity does NOT yield a LOC()!

>To avoid deleting a file & remaking it a 0-byte file
>by using OPEN "o", I use OPEN "U" to write to it and
>change the contents.  This appears to not have use of
>LOC(), so I have to manually keep track of where I am
>in the file.  For some goofy reason, I'm not being
>successful at this.


I think the best solution for a problem with GFA's functions is, if
possible, use API's.  They require a little more code but the end result
should be a lot faster and you get TOTAL CONTROL over what's happening.

Hope this helps.


Pat

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

>The print function by default appends a CR LF sequence.  When printing to
>the screen this sets the position for the next print statement to the next
>line.  Similarly, when printing to a file the CR LF sequence is added so
>that the next print command will print to the next "line".  To overcome it
>simply put a semi-colon at the end of the statement eg "PRINT #1, G$"
>becomes "PRINT #1, G$;".
>
+++ Pat, the colon makes a file that can't be loaded by a simple text editor
for purposes of checking if it is a file bigger than 32K.
>
>
>I think the best solution for a problem with GFA's functions is, if
>possible, use API's.  They require a little more code but the end result
>should be a lot faster and you get TOTAL CONTROL over what's happening.
>
>Hope this helps.
>
>
>Pat

Aye, the *best* solution is going Win API thruought, but...   We are getting
into the middle of another of my projects.  I've lost track of numbers, but
there are something like 8,000 or more messages & APIs, but fewer than 100
or so have been translated directly into GFA-Wese.

I am at the point of separating all into separate files.  I want to sub in
those that are translated & try to figure how to translate the rest.  I am
or was doing it in such a manner that programmers in other languages could
display'em in their own language.  This is why I was trying to add hotlinks
to Roland's RTM reader.  I've already written several editors that can take
text files & add his tags, but it really needs hotlinks to be worth a damn.

I actually think I can add images to it easier than hotlinks.  Keeping tabs
on where one is in the text file by cursor-click/position is a real big can
of active & misbehaving worms!
<g>
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List Member Engel Nobbe <bluez@celestial.demon.nl> wrote:
It was in the help file, and I overlooked it... damn... thanks!

Eberhard Funck wrote:

> List Member "Eberhard Funck" <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de> wrote:
> With following API functions you see
> if a window is maximized or minimized
>
> Eberhard
>
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> BOOL IsZoomed(hwnd)
>
> HWND hwnd; /* handle of window */
>
> The IsZoomed function determines
> whether the given window is maximized.
>
> Parameter Description
>
> hwnd Identifies the window.
>
> Returns
>
> The return value is nonzero if the window is maximized.
> Otherwise, it is zero.
>
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> BOOL IsIconic(hwnd)
>
> HWND hwnd; /* handle of window */
>
> The IsIconic function determines
> whether the given window is minimized (iconic).
>
> Parameter Description
>
> hwnd Identifies the window.
>
> Returns
>
> The return value is nonzero if the window is minimized.
> Otherwise, it is zero.
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
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> Datum: Montag, 27. September 1999 17:17
> Betreff: [gfabasic] Maximized window...
>
> >List Member Engel Nobbe <bluez@celestial.demon.nl> wrote:
> >How can I see if a window has been maximized? Thanks in advance...
> >
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List Member Engel Nobbe <bluez@celestial.demon.nl> wrote:
Another question: is it possible under windows, as it was possible under the
old GFAbasic on the Amiga under Intuition, that Windows keeps track of the
contents of a window, i.e. stores a bitmap of what's in the window, and
refreshes the window automatically?


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List Member Engel Nobbe <bluez@celestial.demon.nl> wrote:
The general trick in handling large files is not to handle them as large
files! Euh...

:-)

What are you trying to accomplish? I've as well found some limits on string
length, but it depends on the application. Normally, I would read in 'chunks'
of data, then do something with it, then read in the next chunk.

The LF CR after a print is logical... It is a print without the ; so should
include this...

Tom Record wrote:

> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Yes, these are dumb questions!  Just how big a string can be
> printed to a file?  According to all I know, 32768 is 32K.
>
> I get "string too long" on anything above 32700!
>
> Another interesting "hidden"... for a line like:
> print #1,G$  (saying G$ is 16 bytes, for example,
> _18_ bytes are written!  There is an h0D h0A tacked
> onto the end.  One expects to write 16 bytes, but
> actually writes 18!  Every "write" is two bytes
> longer than the content of the write.  Using
> PRINT #1,G$; can easily result in a file that few
> text appl can open because the written string is
> 'way the hell over over the 32K limit!
>
> GFA-W (16) has a problem w/ EOF(), so I try to use
> LOF() & LOC().  A problem with this is that some
> activity does NOT yield a LOC()!
>
> To avoid deleting a file & remaking it a 0-byte file
> by using OPEN "o", I use OPEN "U" to write to it and
> change the contents.  This appears to not have use of
> LOC(), so I have to manually keep track of where I am
> in the file.  For some goofy reason, I'm not being
> successful at this.
> <G>
> TomR.
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List Member Engel Nobbe <bluez@celestial.demon.nl> wrote:
> +++ Pat, the colon makes a file that can't be loaded by a simple text editor
> for purposes of checking if it is a file bigger than 32K.

You totally lost me here? Why not?



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List Member John Findlay <Jayef@compuserve.com> wrote:

Tom,

> but fewer than 100 or so have been translated directly into GFA-Wese. <=


Eh!?


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List Member John Findlay <Jayef@compuserve.com> wrote:


>is it possible under windows, as it was possible under the old GFAbasic =
on
the Amiga under Intuition, that Windows keeps track of the contents of a
window, i.e. stores a bitmap of what's in the window, and refreshes the
window automatically?<

Generally one does not programme Windows this way but replaces any
graphical content when a WM_PAINT message is sent to your app.

However, there is a Window class style, see below, that is supposed to do=

what you ask. I have tried it but never seen it work. :-)

You would have to use API functions [RegisterClass() and CreateWindow()] =
to
create the class and window. Methinks!

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D
CS_SAVEBITS     Saves, as a bitmap, the portion of the screen image
obscured by a window. Windows uses the saved bitmap to re-create the scre=
en
image when the window is removed. Windows displays the bitmap at its
original location and does not send WM_PAINT messages to windows obscured=

by the window if the memory used by the bitmap has not been discarded and=

if other screen actions have not invalidated the stored image. This style=

is useful for small windows (for example, menus or dialog boxes) that are=

displayed briefly and then removed before other screen activity takes
place. This style increases the time required to display the window,
because the operating system must first allocate memory to store the
bitmap. =

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D

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List Member Jim Pennington <Jim@x-act.net> wrote:


> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote: 
> Yes, these are dumb questions!  Just how big a string can be 
> printed to a file?  According to all I know, 32768 is 32K. 
>    
> I get "string too long" on anything above 32700! 

This has been a limitation for all versions of GFA, as I recall. I just
use 32000 to be safe.




>  
> Another interesting "hidden"... for a line like: 
> print #1,G$  (saying G$ is 16 bytes, for example, 
> _18_ bytes are written!  There is an h0D h0A tacked 
> onto the end.  One expects to write 16 bytes, but  
> actually writes 18!  Every "write" is two bytes 
> longer than the content of the write.  Using 
> PRINT #1,G$; can easily result in a file that few 
> text appl can open because the written string is  
> 'way the hell over over the 32K limit! 

This whole thing makes sense if you distinguish between ASCII data files
and "text" files. PRINT #n,... is just a print statement, and allows
total control over an ASCII file. As has been stated in other responses,
a semicolon suppresses the trailing CR/LF. "Flat" files use fixed record
lengths, and are usually "random" files, or fixed record length
sequential files, and as such require no record delimiters. Random length
records, on the other hand, require some kind of delimiter to indicate
the end of record (and may also use commas or other delimiter to indicate
fields within the record).

>  
> GFA-W (16) has a problem w/ EOF(), so I try to use 
> LOF() & LOC().  A problem with this is that some 
> activity does NOT yield a LOC()! 
>  
> To avoid deleting a file & remaking it a 0-byte file 
> by using OPEN "o", I use OPEN "U" to write to it and 
> change the contents.  This appears to not have use of 
> LOC(), so I have to manually keep track of where I am 
> in the file.  For some goofy reason, I'm not being 
> successful at this. 
> <G> 
> TomR.

While I think the Windows (DOS) API might be better, the following should
work, and should be fairly fast. I use a similar method to copy large
files.

zero_string$=STRING$(32000,"0")   //or CHR$(0)?

file$=...        //some_path$+some_file$
zerfile$=...     //some_path$+"00000000.000"

OPEN "U",#1,file$
len%=LOF(#1)
WHILE len%>0
  PRINT #1,LEFT$(zero_string$,MIN(32000,len%);
  len%-=MIN(32000,len%)
WEND
CLOSE #1
RENAME file$ AS zerfile$
KILL zerfile$



Good luck,

Jim Pennington
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List Member Barlik@aol.com wrote:
I cannot find any reference to CS_SAVEBITS.  Where is it defined?
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List Member Jim Pennington <Jim@x-act.net> wrote:

> List Member Anthony Watson <awatson@pacifier.com> wrote: 
> Pat, 
>    
> > I'm writing an application where I sometimes need to reduce the size of a 
> > random access file after, say, records have been deleted. 
>    
> As far as I know, it isn't possible to make a file smaller. At least I 
> have never seen a way to do it. It seems like a very common situation to 
> me, and I find it odd that there isn't a way to do this. 
>  
> Hopefully, someone will know a way to do this and correct me! Ha. Ha. 
>  
> > I don't want to write the records to a new file. 
>  
> Unfortunately, that is the only solution I have come up with. I personally 
> do not like this solution, as it requires twice the disk space. For 
> instance, if I want to shrink a 16Meg file by 2-bytes, I have to write out 
> a second 16Meg file. Slow, and a huge waste of space. 
>  
> Please let me know if you find an alternative solution...

In 30 years of programming, I've only used one system that allowed you to
truncate a file, and that system did not allow you to extend the length
of a file, and required contiguous sectors to boot! 'Nuff said about that
one!

I do a lot of file manipulation, and in my experience, it wouldn't be all
that useful (your mileage may vary). When records are deleted, how often
are they exactly at the end, unless some kind of packing operation is
performed? Packing may also be slow (a necessary evil), and when copying
to a new file, space is only wasted until the original file is deleted.
Copying/packing to a new file is also safer, since the old data is
preserved until the duplication is complete. Packing and truncating an
existing file, however is vulnerable to a system crash, power failure,
reboot, etc.

Just my thoughts,

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
At 08:39 AM 29/09/99 +0200, you wrote:
>List Member Engel Nobbe <bluez@celestial.demon.nl> wrote:
>> +++ Pat, the colon makes a file that can't be loaded by a simple text editor
>> for purposes of checking if it is a file bigger than 32K.
>
>You totally lost me here? Why not?

Ha!  Got your curiosity awakened?  <G>

A simple text editor can handle 32K, max.  A more complex editor can handle
something just less than 64K.  To go any further, it's necessary to go with
a commercial appl (for now).  I haven't mastered getting past the 64K limit
in GFA-W (16).  It _has_ to be possible, somehow!  EditMaster will load a
file over 4 megs, it just takes time & it hesitates occasionally during
scroll because I'll bet it's dumping some out of memory & loading in more
at the end I'm working in.  I've not yet been able to guess exactly how this
works altho I'm fairly sure I have the right idea.  Tied in with this, is
keeping track of what lines are onscreen at a given moment.  Top this off,
& I can increase the capacity of Roland's RTM display.  I thot I'd licked
this, but after getting my hands on the RTM reader, I learned that I had 
just figured out a dirty way to do what Roland did & that *my* limit was 
actually a tad less than 64K like his.  I finally figured a way to keep 
track of the lines onscreen somewhat, but have to read the file itself because
I can't handle it in memory yet.  ANYTHING, including Joe's marvelous wildcard
search engine, takes a month to read a 4M file.  It's GOTTA be in memory!

What are you using for a browser?  I have the poop on Netscape, Opera & MSIE.
I need to identify others so I can find the hidden files they make while online.
Another project is to clean out as many traces as a user might want to of where
they've been while online.  A "privacy" thing, so to speak.

I'd also like to know how to track commands to read or write to the drive.

I'm on a new HD because of a BO infection that even McAfee didn't catch.  I
know something now about catching these things, but one step that makes it
very easy is catching read/write commands.  I can maintaion logs of the various
modules that are attacked & can make "daily" comparisons so at least a user can 
put an end to them before they've been active very long.  If I can identify 
just what is doing read/write, I can nail'em down when they first start.

To bring you up to date, I am also working on a translator that can handle
about 6 languages at the moment but the only really big DB I have is German
& English.  About 4.25M, at the moment.  Again, handling large files in
memory is a MUST!  You saw the exchanges about this, I'm sure <G>.  I'm NOT
gonna get nasty about how silly & unfathemable some of the English looks &
sounds coming from Germany.  It's a problem for everybody, so I thot I'd give
it a whirl.  Tolken97 does in seconds or just milliseconds what others take
many minutes or hours to translate.  It's bound to get some expressions a bit
wrong for context - the guy used the same Ergane DB I started out with several
months ago.  I've added a lot to it, but those guys use dialect in their
comments & I have nobody to translate litteral meanings for me.  I don't mind 
that many of them lauhg at my efforts - I do too (when I'm not crying <G>).

One last project is putting the Win31 SDK helpfile into RTM _&_ GFA-W.  Again,
am talking handling megabyte files in memory & in a "text" reader (RTM).  Here,
I get into adding hotlinks to Roland's RTM reader.  I have the messages & other
gizmos broken down to small files, but can't access'em yet via hotlinks.  I
have several sources for tags, ets., but NOTHING on how a browser handles them.

Well, one other tiny headache... I want to know how for sure to add a menu or
alter the coming-on-screen charactoristics of somebody else's appl.  I want to
bring MS's Windows Write onscreen maximized (among other things <G>).  Roland's
gfa.exe adds a menu to the GFA-W *.exe.

I've been at GFA-W 2 yrs & have come a long way but I know I have at least 60
times that to learn.  I can find & provide lots of goodies to others, but me
getting over *my* humps is nearly impossible.  Most "big guys" don't answer
many of my questions.
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
At 08:37 AM 29/09/99 +0200, you wrote:
>List Member Engel Nobbe <bluez@celestial.demon.nl> wrote:
>The general trick in handling large files is not to handle them as large
>files! Euh...
>
>:-)
>
>What are you trying to accomplish? I've as well found some limits on string
>length, but it depends on the application. Normally, I would read in 'chunks'
>of data, then do something with it, then read in the next chunk.
>

Hi, Engel
Welcome to our little world.

The project: render files completely un-recoverable by writing zeros in every
byte.  I did it in several other Basic languages, but this one is giving me
trouble... it either wants to leave some of the original file intact or else
I must go beyond the original EOF.  I'm trying to stay within the confines of
the original.  I can check things in various appls, but the string length will
bomb any normal text editor.  I know just how many bytes a file has, but trying
to print to each & all seems nearly impossible with precision.  Trying to print
a 32K string is impossible.  As I said, I can't get past "string too long" with
a real 32K string.  Let's face it - rewriting a 3 or 4 meg file with zeros will
take an ungodly amount of time if I can't do it with long strings.  Speed in the
other Basics was a laughing matter to start with, but GFA-W (16) is plenty fast
for it if I can get past the impediments.

The actual reading is just to verify I've done what I wanted.  Once *this* works
the way I want, I'll rename the file to 00000000.000, then kill it.  Nobody will
be able to recover *any* of it.
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
At 03:39 AM 29/09/99 -0400, you wrote:
>List Member John Findlay <Jayef@compuserve.com> wrote:
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>Tom,
>
>> but fewer than 100 or so have been translated directly into GFA-Wese. <
>
>Eh!?
>
>
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Hi, John
Ok, my numbers are incorrect.  There are officially 635 Windows APIs.
Dale has fewer than 680 APIs & other messages in his helpfile.  In the
Win31SDK helpfile, ALL are in "C", & in my manuals, most are still given 
in "C".  If I remember correctly, I have something like 12,000 files, 
each covering only one message or other necessary evil.  My 2 largest 
GFA-W manuals alr almost completely in "C" - NOT translated to GFA-W.  
The wording is somewhat different & I've not yet been able to come up with 
valid rules for translation.  It's just like translating VB2 & VB3 calls - 
I think I have it, & it bombs on me.

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
John, et.al.

2,100 is the correct number of messages, etc., including the 635 WinAPI
as defined for VB2 & VB3.

My 12,000 figure is a series number... there are 12 catagories of messages,
notifications, etc., the way I have them broken out.  The Win31SDK helpfile, 
as a text file, is 4.4M.

I have them all in "C".  I wish to add the GFA-W translations to the appropriate
ones in time.  I would really like to be able to translate all of them.  I *can*
translate many of them to LibertyBasic because a translator I helped write in
that language can handle much of the "C" format, also.  Getting from LB back to
GFA-W isn't so easy because the calling conventions are very different in LB.

Sorry
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List Member John Findlay <Jayef@compuserve.com> wrote:

Tom,

> As I said, I can't get past "string too long" with a real 32K string. <=


Try using any of the 'huge' write funtions that have been put forward if
GFA won't handle it.

or; the limit for GFA here seems to be 32760, don't know why

 g$ =3D STRING$(32760, 0)
 OPEN "O", #1, "d:\mytest.txt"
 BPUT #1, V:g$, LEN(g$) =

 'PRINT #1, g$;
 CLOSE #1


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List Member John Findlay <Jayef@compuserve.com> wrote:

Tom,

> Dale has fewer than 680 APIs & other messages in his helpfile. <

If translation is your problem you can search and use the API call from
many of the demo listings that people have placed on Dale's web page.

There are some of us that basically only use API's so there's plenty of
examples. By seeing a working example and checking it with the Windows SD=
K
helpfile you can see what's required to do the translations.

> I wish to add the GFA-W translations to the appropriate ones in time. <=


In time for what?


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List Member John Findlay <Jayef@compuserve.com> wrote:

Tom,

> rewriting a 3 or 4 meg file with zeros will take an ungodly amount of
time if I can't do it with long strings. <

I did a little test to write a 4 meg file one byte at a time, it took
1.77secs compiled. Not bad methinks.

 OPEN "O", #1, "d:\mytest.txt"
 t% =3D TIMER
 FOR h% =3D 0 TO 3999999
   OUT #1, 3
 NEXT h%
 PRINT (TIMER - t%) / 1000
 CLOSE #1
 KEYGET a%
 CLOSEW #1

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List Member Thomas Gonschor <verwaltung@vph-bensberg.de> wrote:
Hi!

Has anyone experiences in using the clipboard?

My problem is to get the information which clipboard-format is set
and how to read the clipboard-entry into a string.

Has anyone got a sample-source?

Many thanks in advance
Yours

Thomas

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List Member Pat Bullman <pbullman@norex.com.au> wrote:
Does anyone have a routine to clip a file to a particular length?

I'm writing an application where I sometimes need to reduce the size of a
random access file after, say, records have been deleted.

I don't want to write the records to a new file.

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
At 09:04 AM 29/09/99 -0400, you wrote:
>List Member John Findlay <Jayef@compuserve.com> wrote:
>
>Tom,
>
>> rewriting a 3 or 4 meg file with zeros will take an ungodly amount of
>time if I can't do it with long strings. <
>
>I did a little test to write a 4 meg file one byte at a time, it took
>1.77secs compiled. Not bad methinks.
>
> OPEN "O", #1, "d:\mytest.txt"
> t% = TIMER
> FOR h% = 0 TO 3999999
>   OUT #1, 3
> NEXT h%
> PRINT (TIMER - t%) / 1000
> CLOSE #1
> KEYGET a%
> CLOSEW #1
>
>John
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I suspect that's why you are referred to as a programmer & I'm not, John <G>.
A 32K file in the interpretor took 9 sec for me.  yes, I know... compiled is
a lot faster.

I'm off to bed.  Thanks, again.
<G>
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>If translation is your problem you can search and use the API call from
>many of the demo listings that people have placed on Dale's web page.
>
+++ Will start skimming.  Thanks.
>
>> I wish to add the GFA-W translations to the appropriate ones in time. <
>
>In time for what?
>
+++ *Could say "before I become totally incapacitated", but mean "in good time"
or "as time allows".  No deadline, actually.
>
>John

Will look at BMOVE, et.al.  Thanks.  Nearing 9:45 in the morning - time to go
to bed.  Getting a tad groggy.
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List Member John Findlay <Jayef@compuserve.com> wrote:

> I cannot find any reference to CS_SAVEBITS.  Where is it defined? <

In Windows.h   #define CS_SAVEBITS         0x0800

The description of it can be found in any of the Windows SDK helpfiles in=

the WNDCLASS section!

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List Member Anthony Watson <awatson@pacifier.com> wrote:
Pat,

> I'm writing an application where I sometimes need to reduce the size of a
> random access file after, say, records have been deleted.

As far as I know, it isn't possible to make a file smaller. At least I
have never seen a way to do it. It seems like a very common situation to
me, and I find it odd that there isn't a way to do this.

Hopefully, someone will know a way to do this and correct me! Ha. Ha.

> I don't want to write the records to a new file.

Unfortunately, that is the only solution I have come up with. I personally
do not like this solution, as it requires twice the disk space. For
instance, if I want to shrink a 16Meg file by 2-bytes, I have to write out
a second 16Meg file. Slow, and a huge waste of space.

Please let me know if you find an alternative solution...

Anthony Watson
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List Member Engel Nobbe <bluez@celestial.demon.nl> wrote:
Hmmm... this doesn't seem to work... would you have a very small sample?
What should I use as the handle?

Eberhard Funck wrote:

> List Member "Eberhard Funck" <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de> wrote:
> With following API functions you see
> if a window is maximized or minimized
>
> Eberhard
>
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> BOOL IsZoomed(hwnd)
>
> HWND hwnd; /* handle of window */
>
> The IsZoomed function determines
> whether the given window is maximized.
>
> Parameter Description
>
> hwnd Identifies the window.
>
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>
> The return value is nonzero if the window is maximized.
> Otherwise, it is zero.
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> hwnd Identifies the window.
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List Member UlliStemmeler@t-online.de (Ulli Stemmeler) wrote:
Hello Thomas,

I am writing a clipboard-help program in these days and I use some APi-co=
ntrol=20
for getting informations about the clipboard=B4s content in this. I guess=
 my=20
program will be ready the next week.
You want the whole program or just the routines ?
=20
Dale: you think this program might be interesting for you as well ?

Greetings from rainy M=FCnster/Germany

Ulli Stemmeler

Thomas Gonschor schrieb(wrote):
List Member Thomas Gonschor <verwaltung@vph-bensberg.de> wrote:
Hi!

Has anyone experiences in using the clipboard?

My problem is to get the information which clipboard-format is set
and how to read the clipboard-entry into a string.

Has anyone got a sample-source?

Many thanks in advance
Yours

Thomas

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List Member Micromiser Software <miser@cde.com> wrote:
Hi Tom,

If somebody needs a fast way to wipe a file, I could upload one. But that
sniffer program you wrote does a secure delete so you must already have
this. The pseudo code would be: open binary, write 32K strings to length of
file, etc. I don't think there would be any real-time speed improvement with
longer strings since the drive head is already there (so to speak).

I read the best secure delete is to write zeros, then random bytes, then
255's (3 passes). Then repeat that up to 3 times depending on level of paranoia.

I use 32750 len strings with no problem. That was the limit on Power Basic,
but I think GFA can go up to a full 32K.

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List Member Micromiser Software <miser@cde.com> wrote:
At 10:30 AM 9/29/99 PST, you wrote:
>List Member Jim Pennington <Jim@x-act.net> wrote:
>
>I do a lot of file manipulation, and in my experience, it wouldn't be all
>that useful (your mileage may vary). When records are deleted, how often
>are they exactly at the end, unless some kind of packing operation is
>performed? Packing may also be slow (a necessary evil), and when copying
>to a new file, space is only wasted until the original file is deleted.
>Copying/packing to a new file is also safer, since the old data is
>preserved until the duplication is complete. Packing and truncating an
>existing file, however is vulnerable to a system crash, power failure,
>reboot, etc.
>
I agree. Copying the file is the best way, quicker and more reliable. If
disk space is the problem, you could seek, read, seek, write, etc. I
wouldn't put that in a commercial package though, especially with long
files. Enough disk problems as it is...

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
At 01:59 PM 29/09/99 -0400, you wrote:
>List Member Micromiser Software <miser@cde.com> wrote:
>Hi Tom,
>
>If somebody needs a fast way to wipe a file, I could upload one. But that
>sniffer program you wrote does a secure delete so you must already have
>this. The pseudo code would be: open binary, write 32K strings to length of
>file, etc. I don't think there would be any real-time speed improvement with
>longer strings since the drive head is already there (so to speak).
>
>I read the best secure delete is to write zeros, then random bytes, then
>255's (3 passes). Then repeat that up to 3 times depending on level of
paranoia.
>
>I use 32750 len strings with no problem. That was the limit on Power Basic,
>but I think GFA can go up to a full 32K.
>
>-----
>Steve Thornton
>
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John says 32760 is GFA-W's limit.  Going down to 62 I gave up & tried 32700.

>From John:
I did a little test to write a 4 meg file one byte at a time, it took
1.77secs compiled. Not bad methinks.

 OPENW #1, 0,0,200,50,48 /* *I* added the window, John.  Works just fine.
Thanks!
/*  OPEN "O", #1, "d:\mytest.txt"
 OPEN "u", #1, "d:\mytest.txt" /* changed
 gig%=LOF(#1) /* added
 t% = TIMER
/*  FOR h% = 0 TO 3999999 /* changed - see next line.
 FOR h% = 0 TO gig% /* use LOF(#1), works great!
   OUT #1, 3 /* zero is 48 (in place of the "3".
 NEXT h%
 PRINT (TIMER - t%) / 1000
 CLOSE #1
 KEYGET a%
 CLOSEW #1

John

On a P-100 running ProgMan/FileMgr, 17+ sec in interpretor, 4+ sec compiled.

Zero, then one, then zero should suit most anybody.  I rename to 00000000.000
before killing.  Same could apply - zero, one, zero.  I don't know any dump
that could recover much of anything done this way.

I use John's hugeop to move files about.  Up to 4.4M takes milliseconds only
& I've not lost one yet.

<G>
TomR.

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
At 02:09 PM 29/09/99 -0400, you wrote:
>List Member Micromiser Software <miser@cde.com> wrote:
>At 10:30 AM 9/29/99 PST, you wrote:
>>List Member Jim Pennington <Jim@x-act.net> wrote:
>>
>>I do a lot of file manipulation, and in my experience, it wouldn't be all
>>that useful (your mileage may vary). When records are deleted, how often
>>are they exactly at the end, unless some kind of packing operation is
>>performed? Packing may also be slow (a necessary evil), and when copying
>>to a new file, space is only wasted until the original file is deleted.
>>Copying/packing to a new file is also safer, since the old data is
>>preserved until the duplication is complete. Packing and truncating an
>>existing file, however is vulnerable to a system crash, power failure,
>>reboot, etc.
>>
>I agree. Copying the file is the best way, quicker and more reliable. If
>disk space is the problem, you could seek, read, seek, write, etc. I
>wouldn't put that in a commercial package though, especially with long
>files. Enough disk problems as it is...
>
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>
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Can we square away just what kind of files these are?  Random access or 
"random" are fixed length records, predetermined by "field".  Sequential
is the only thing I know of that can have varying record sizes.  Random
FILES can be of any multiple of the rec size - exactly # of recs times
field.  Sequential files can have 1024 1-byte recs in a 1K file or it
can be 17 megs!  It has a pointer you can shift about (LOC()) to keep
track of any changes you make.  If you have enough memory to do this,
read the darned thing into an array then rewrite it back to disk & skip 
the recs you want to delete.  BINGO - deleted recs, shortened file.  In
fact, read to the array SKIPPING "deleted" recs then BMOVE the array to
the HD.  Wouldn't *that* work?

It's going to take a little time to rewrite either kind.  Sequential files
can be done, also.  By use of LOC(), you can read delimiter to delimiter &
write the new file only with valid records.  If you use recnum$ (or something
else like it) to keep track of random files, you can write zeros to any rec
you delete or maintain a log in an *.ini of deleted recs.  You read the file 
& write a new one, writing only valiod recs again.  You can also do your
bookkeeping using the added field for recnum$ & actually copy recs forward
as you delete'em.  Any way you look at it, you're in for some time & HD space
to do *ANYTHING* akin to this.

Fellers, I used to make damned good money doing the impossible as an electronics
engineering technician JUST BECAUSE I wouldn't follow the accepted rules!  I was
the ONLY ET on NASA's design team for the Lunar Lander!  Everybody else had at
least a Master's degree in engineering, most were PhDs!  Programming is the only
thing I've tried that I had to do with all 10 fingers superglued together!
<G>
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List Member Micromiser Software <miser@cde.com> wrote:
At 03:01 PM 9/29/99 +0100, you wrote:
>List Member Thomas Gonschor <verwaltung@vph-bensberg.de> wrote:
>Hi!
>
>Has anyone experiences in using the clipboard?
>
>My problem is to get the information which clipboard-format is set
>and how to read the clipboard-entry into a string.
>
>Has anyone got a sample-source?
>

Hi Thomas,

Did you get any clipboard examples? Here's one I use:

PROCEDURE GETCLIP
  TRY
    CLIPFORMAT CF_TEXT
    CLIPPASTE A%,B%
    CLIP$=PEEK$(A%,B%)
  CATCH
  CLIP$="" 'main routine has error msg
RETURN

PROCEDURE PUTCLIP
  CLIPFORMAT CF_TEXT
  CLRCLIP
  CLIPCOPY V:CLIP$,LEN(CLIP$)
RETURN

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List Member Micromiser Software <miser@cde.com> wrote:
Hi Tom,
So, you're talking "Record" I/O? (sorry, couldn't resist!)

I am totally unfamiliar with record I/O. But I think most just mark records
as deleted with a flag byte, then delete them periodically when speed isn't
so important.

I know everyone in the world uses record I/O but, like you, I'll go against
the crowd if I think there's a better way. Record I/O stores mostly spaces
(usually), so I never used it.

Even though I use binary files (variable length records), I still just mark
them as deleted or use filler bytes for shortenned records. Only need to
restore the file if a record is expanded. Using multiple short 64K data
files makes that practical.

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You wrote:
>
>Can we square away just what kind of files these are?  Random access or 
>"random" are fixed length records, predetermined by "field".  Sequential
>is the only thing I know of that can have varying record sizes.  Random
>FILES can be of any multiple of the rec size - exactly # of recs times
>field.  Sequential files can have 1024 1-byte recs in a 1K file or it
>can be 17 megs!  It has a pointer you can shift about (LOC()) to keep
>track of any changes you make.  If you have enough memory to do this,
>read the darned thing into an array then rewrite it back to disk & skip 
>the recs you want to delete.  BINGO - deleted recs, shortened file.  In
>fact, read to the array SKIPPING "deleted" recs then BMOVE the array to
>the HD.  Wouldn't *that* work?
>
>

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List Member "EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" <JoeHurst@snafu.de> wrote:
> List Member Engel Nobbe <bluez@celestial.demon.nl> wrote:
> Another question: is it possible under windows, as it was possible under the
> old GFAbasic on the Amiga under Intuition, that Windows keeps track of the
> contents of a window, i.e. stores a bitmap of what's in the window, and
> refreshes the window automatically?
No. That can be done only with 32-bit-programming-languages ("AutoRepaint") like
Visual Basic >=4-32, GFA-Basic 32, Delphi >3, Visual C++ >3.
(But, if I remember, there was a "style" for a window called "CS_SAVEBITS" (or
so) which could do this perhaps? Do you have an API-documentation for Windows
3.x)?

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List Member "EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" <JoeHurst@snafu.de> wrote:
> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Yes, these are dumb questions!  Just how big a string can be
> printed to a file?  According to all I know, 32768 is 32K.
Replace "32k" in the docs with "almost 32k".

> Another interesting "hidden"... for a line like:
> print #1,G$  (saying G$ is 16 bytes, for example,
> _18_ bytes are written!  There is an h0D h0A tacked
That is correct. Use ";" behind your print-statement to avoid a "new line form
feed" what is usually gotten with "PRINT" (similiar to screen-output).

> GFA-W (16) has a problem w/ EOF(), so I try to use
> LOF() & LOC().  A problem with this is that some
> activity does NOT yield a LOC()!
The problem is the "control-Z"-character in some files which causes a problem to
GFAWin (and some editors not programmed with GFAWin). It resumes frome
stone-old-DOS-day-editors by MS.
EOF() is usually not enough to read until end-of-file is reached, TRY-CATCH your
reading and the problems should be gone.

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List Member "Sjaak Aarnoutse" <aarnouts@zeelandnet.nl> wrote:

> I did a little test to write a 4 meg file one byte at a time, it took
> 1.77secs compiled. Not bad methinks.

How come these sort of statements always make me want to fine-
tune?  Maybe because you have to keep in mind that someone 
someday wants to use your code to 'zero-fill' complete directory 
structures...   Anyway, big blocks DO make sense, the following 
code takes 0.17 sec. to write the file.  (plenty fast for your harddisk)

OPEN "O", #1, "d:\newtest.txt"
t% = TIMER
rest_of_file%=3999999

// create zero-filled block in memory
DIM zero%(8192)
maxblocksize%=4*8192
ARRAYFILL zero%(),0
//  wipe file...
WHILE rest_of_file% >0
  block%=MIN(rest_of_file%,maxblocksize%)
  BPUT #1,V:zero%(0),block%
  SUB rest_of_file%,block%
WEND

PRINT (TIMER - t%) / 1000
CLOSE #1
KEYGET a%
CLOSEW #1


met vriendelijke groet,

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>I am totally unfamiliar with record I/O. But I think most just mark records
>as deleted with a flag byte, then delete them periodically when speed isn't
>so important.
>
+++ The flag is the extent!  Nobody deletes a record - it isn't considered 
a do-able.
>
>I know everyone in the world uses record I/O but, like you, I'll go against
>the crowd if I think there's a better way. Record I/O stores mostly spaces
>(usually), so I never used it.
>
+++ That's part of the structure & deliniation between records.  It's the nature
of "random access".  You ask for a particular record, it counts flags instead of
bytes because it's faster.  Sequentials don't have those flags at even spacing.
<G>
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>EOF() is usually not enough to read until end-of-file is reached, TRY-CATCH
your
>reading and the problems should be gone.
>
>Bye, Joe
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
At 12:07 AM 30/09/99 +0200, you wrote:
>List Member "Sjaak Aarnoutse" <aarnouts@zeelandnet.nl> wrote:
>
>> I did a little test to write a 4 meg file one byte at a time, it took
>> 1.77secs compiled. Not bad methinks.
>
>How come these sort of statements always make me want to fine-
>tune?  Maybe because you have to keep in mind that someone 
>someday wants to use your code to 'zero-fill' complete directory 
>structures...   Anyway, big blocks DO make sense, the following 
>code takes 0.17 sec. to write the file.  (plenty fast for your harddisk)
>
+++ Sjaak
Thank you for joining in.  This is how amateurs like me learn the neatest
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
0.725 on a P-100 in the interpretor!
Problem... how to get it to write zeros?
ARRAYFILL zero%(),0 -> ARRAYFILL zero%(),48 results in: . . . 0 . . . 0,
w/ char$(0) instead of (.), of course.  It *IS* lightning fast, tho!
<G>
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At 12:07 AM 30/09/99 +0200, you wrote:
>List Member "Sjaak Aarnoutse" <aarnouts@zeelandnet.nl> wrote:
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>> I did a little test to write a 4 meg file one byte at a time, it took
>> 1.77secs compiled. Not bad methinks.
>
>How come these sort of statements always make me want to fine-
>tune?  Maybe because you have to keep in mind that someone 
>someday wants to use your code to 'zero-fill' complete directory 
>structures...   Anyway, big blocks DO make sense, the following 
>code takes 0.17 sec. to write the file.  (plenty fast for your harddisk)
>
>OPEN "O", #1, "d:\newtest.txt"
>t% = TIMER
>rest_of_file%=3999999
>
>// create zero-filled block in memory
>DIM zero%(8192)
>maxblocksize%=4*8192
>ARRAYFILL zero%(),0
>//  wipe file...
>WHILE rest_of_file% >0
>  block%=MIN(rest_of_file%,maxblocksize%)
>  BPUT #1,V:zero%(0),block%
>  SUB rest_of_file%,block%
>WEND
>
>PRINT (TIMER - t%) / 1000
>CLOSE #1
>KEYGET a%
>CLOSEW #1
>
>
>met vriendelijke groet,
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List Member UlliStemmeler@t-online.de (Ulli Stemmeler) wrote:
Hello again,

It will last longer to complete that clipboard-programm. So I would like =
to=20
present the main thing:
I call it "take-clipboard", because "get_clipboard" is making difficultie=
s....

// example for a call:
SELECT @take_clipboard(image%,text$)
CASE 1
  //----> picture_procedure(image%)
CASE 2
  //----> text_procedure(text$)
DEFAULT
  //----> whatever
ENDSELECT

FUNCTION take_clipboard(VAR pic_adr%,text$)
 //           Results: 1=3Dclipboard has a picture, 2=3Dhas text,
 //                    or  0 (False)=3DClipboard is empty
  LOCAL f!,dummy%
  f! =3D IsClipboardFormatAvailable(CF_BITMAP)
  IF f!
    CLIPFORMAT CF_BITMAP
    CLIPPASTE pic_adr%,dummy%
    RETURN 1
  ELSE  // no picture in the clipbrd, so delete variables and try it with=
 text:
    CLR f!,pic_adr%,dummy%
  ENDIF
  f! =3D IsClipboardFormatAvailable(CF_TEXT) // also possible: CF_OEMTEXT
  IF f!
    CLIPFORMAT CF_TEXT
    CLIPPASTE pic_adr%,dummy% // just lazy: avoid another variablename fo=
r this
    text$ =3D CHAR{pic_adr%}=20
    RETURN 2
  ELSE  // no text, no picture so let=B4s say it is empty
    RETURN FALSE
  ENDIF
ENDFUNC
//---> of course you can add other clipboard-types in this procedure.
//---> This function allows to ask for the clipboard format and avoid err=
or=20
//     messages...

// To me, the most important thing is this "IsClipboardFormatAvailable(fo=
rmat)"
// You find it in the GFA-Help under "API-Help" in:
// "1.12 Klemmbrettfunktionen" (GFA-Basic API-Hilfe). This way it is call=
ed in=20
// my german version...
// other possible types of clipboard-format you can find on the same page=
 under
// "SetClipboardFormat"


Greetings,

Ulli Stemmeler

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List Member Pat Bullman <pbullman@norex.com.au> wrote:
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Thanks for the assistance.

In lieu of a working model, I decided to bite the bullet and write a "clip"
rountine using DOS interrupts.  The code is attached and appears to work.
However, I believe it needs more work.

I would like to add a couple of additional checks after each DOS call to
ensure that the operation was successful.  The documentation I have states
that "CF clear if successful".  Does anyone know what "CF" is and how it
would be read in GFA.

Thanks


Pat
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/*************************************************************************************
/* PROGRAM:     ClipFile
/* DATE:        20 September 1999
/* COMMENTS:    The actual code to clip the file was written in a Procedure rather
/*              than a Function so that is could easily be copied into a DLL.
/*************************************************************************************


OPENW #1
/* Create file of 16 bytes
OPEN "A:\Test.dat" FOR OUTPUT AS #1
PRINT #1, "0123456789012345";
PRINT "Before ClipeFile LOF(1) = ", LOF( #1)
@ClipFile 1, 10
PRINT "ClipFile returned the value ", _EAX
CLOSE #1

PRINT
PRINT
PRINT "Press any Key to end"
KEYGET k%
CLOSEW #1
END

PROCEDURE ClipFile(FileNo&, NewLen%)
  /***********************************************************************************
  /* Purpose:     Clips the file opened as #FileNo& to NewLen% size.  NewLen% must be
  /*              greater than 0 and less than LOF(#FileNo&).
  /* Parameters:  FileNo& (WORD) - Containing the file number eg OPEN #FileNo& as ....
  /*              NewLen% (DWORD) - The new file length.
  /* Returns:     (DWORD) The new size of the file or -1 if FileNo& is invalid or used
  /*              for a Device (ie CON: LPT1: ..), -2 if NewLen% is not smaller than
  /*              LOF(#FileNo&).
  /* Comments:    We're going to use DOS interrupt calls to do the hard work.  Four
  /*              stages are required: 1) To ensure FileNo& is a valid file number;
  /*              2) To test that the existing file length is greater NewLen%;
  /*              3) Using DOS interrupt call 21, 42h "LSEEK" to NewLen% position; and
  /*              4) Using DOS interrupt call 21, 40h "WRITE" 0 bytes to the file
  /*              which has the effect of truncating the file to the current position.
  /***********************************************************************************

  /* Stage 1 - Test is we've been passed a valid file number.
  LOCAL lhDosFileNo& = _FILE(FileNo&)           /* Get DOS file handle
  IF lhDosFileNo& < 1 THEN                      /* File not open or file is a device
    RETVAL -1                                   /* Indicate Invalid FileNo& error
    EXPROC                                      /* Bail out
  ENDIF

  /* Stage 2 - Test if NewLen% is smaller than LOF(#FileNo&)
  IF NewLen% >= LOF(#FileNo&) THEN
    RETVAL -2                                   /* Indicate Invalid NewLen% error
    EXPROC                                      /* Bail out
  ENDIF

  /* Stage 3 - Set the DOS file pointer to NewLen% position.
  /* DOS Interrupt call 21h, 42h requires the following registers set:
  /*      - AH = 42h
  /*      - AL = 00h (Origin of move ie indicating start of file)
  /*      - BX = lhDosFileNo& (DOS file handle)
  /*      - CX:DX = NewLen% (offset from origin of new file position)

  _AH = &h42
  _AL = &h00
  _BX = lhDosFileNo&
  _CX = HIWORD(NewLen%)
  _DX = LOWORD(NewLen%)
  ~INTR(&h21)

  /* Stage 4 - Write 0 bytes to the file, truncating the file at the current
  /* file DOS pointer position.  DOS Interrupt call 21h, 40h requires the
  /* following registers set:
  /*      - AH = 40h
  /*      - BX = lhDosFileNo& (DOS file handle)
  /*      - CX = Number of bytes to write (0 for our purposes)
  /*      -DS:DX = data to write (not applicable - set to 0)

  _AH = &h40
  _BX = lhDosFileNo&
  _CX = &h00
  _DS = &h00
  _DX = &h00
  ~INTR(&h21)

  RETVAL LOF(#FileNo&)                          /* Return new file length
RETURN

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List Member Engel Nobbe <bluez@celestial.demon.nl> wrote:
> Generally one does not programme Windows this way but replaces any
> graphical content when a WM_PAINT message is sent to your app.
>

Unfortunately, I've found some cases where I don't get that message... at least
not via the MENU() structure... how should I handle it?


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List Member Engel Nobbe <bluez@celestial.demon.nl> wrote:
Sounds pretty easy...

1. find out the file length
2. open it
3. start writing out in blocks of, let's say for example 30 kbytes of zeros
(x$=STRING$(...))
4. until you've got less than 30 kbytes left (figure the number of blocks out using
MOD)
5. fill the last section with zero's as well (i.e. LEFT$(x$,leftbytes)
6. close and kill

Done. And quick enough, as you deal with writing blocks of data.

An alternative would be to allocate a chunck of memory, and dump it to the file.
Again, in blocks, if the file is too big.

Tom Record wrote:

> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> At 08:37 AM 29/09/99 +0200, you wrote:
> >List Member Engel Nobbe <bluez@celestial.demon.nl> wrote:
> >The general trick in handling large files is not to handle them as large
> >files! Euh...
> >
> >:-)
> >
> >What are you trying to accomplish? I've as well found some limits on string
> >length, but it depends on the application. Normally, I would read in 'chunks'
> >of data, then do something with it, then read in the next chunk.
> >
>
> Hi, Engel
> Welcome to our little world.
>
> The project: render files completely un-recoverable by writing zeros in every
> byte.  I did it in several other Basic languages, but this one is giving me
> trouble... it either wants to leave some of the original file intact or else
> I must go beyond the original EOF.  I'm trying to stay within the confines of
> the original.  I can check things in various appls, but the string length will
> bomb any normal text editor.  I know just how many bytes a file has, but trying
> to print to each & all seems nearly impossible with precision.  Trying to print
> a 32K string is impossible.  As I said, I can't get past "string too long" with
> a real 32K string.  Let's face it - rewriting a 3 or 4 meg file with zeros will
> take an ungodly amount of time if I can't do it with long strings.  Speed in the
> other Basics was a laughing matter to start with, but GFA-W (16) is plenty fast
> for it if I can get past the impediments.
>
> The actual reading is just to verify I've done what I wanted.  Once *this* works
> the way I want, I'll rename the file to 00000000.000, then kill it.  Nobody will
> be able to recover *any* of it.
> <G>
> TomR.
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List Member Engel Nobbe <bluez@celestial.demon.nl> wrote:
After reading it all I sigh deep and set back and marvel at the ingenuity (spell
problems :-)) of all intelligent people in this world :-)

Tom Record wrote:

> >> +++ Pat, the colon makes a file that can't be loaded by a simple text editor
> >> for purposes of checking if it is a file bigger than 32K.
> >
> >You totally lost me here? Why not?
>
> Ha!  Got your curiosity awakened?  <G>
>

... cut a lot of ...


> bring MS's Windows Write onscreen maximized (among other things <G>).  Roland's
> gfa.exe adds a menu to the GFA-W *.exe.
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List Member Engel Nobbe <bluez@celestial.demon.nl> wrote:
A fount of knowledge! Isn't that what everybody wants? :-)

Another question: trying to figure out DDE, as I'm planning to interface to an
existing application... Does anybody have a WORKING sample of DDE, of two GFA
programs exchanging data? I've found some samples on the GFA FTP site, and one
in the Nahil sources, but none do actually work, and all abort with errors...

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Bev,

> Any ideas out there!!! <

Looks like you on a solid ground! Flat, but solid. ;)


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List Member John Findlay <Jayef@compuserve.com> wrote:

Engel,

> Unfortunately, I've found some cases where I don't get that message... =
at
least
not via the MENU() structure... how should I handle it? <

All windows (to my knowledge) will receive WM_PAINT messages whenever par=
t
of the windows display area has been uncovered by the removal of some oth=
er
window. =


_Sometimes_ 'Windows' takes care of it if a dialog box has been displayed=
.

Just replace any graphical stuff when WM_PAINT happens. You may need some=

IF's or SELECT/CASE's to deal with different graphics, dependant on what
you are displaying at that particular time.

OPENW #1
DO
  GETEVENT
  IF MENU(1) =3D 21   // WM_PAINT
    BEEP
  ENDIF
UNTIL MENU(1) =3D 4
CLOSEW #1

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Engel,

> Hmmm... this doesn't seem to work... would you have a very small sample=
?
What should I use as the handle? <

Minimise the window and you will hear a BEEP sound.

OPENW #1
hwnd& =3D WIN(1) // handle to the window
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List Member Thomas Gonschor <verwaltung@vph-bensberg.de> wrote:
Hi Steve!

>Did you get any clipboard examples? Here's one I use:

Thank your very much!

The main problem is to get the information about the
clipboard-format. Do you know how to do this?

Many thanks
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List Member Thomas Gonschor <verwaltung@vph-bensberg.de> wrote:
Hi Ulli!

>You want the whole program or just the routines ?

That is very nice! I wold like to get the routines, because I believe
that it is easier to learn about them.

Many many thanks
Yours

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List Member John Findlay <Jayef@compuserve.com> wrote:

Engel,

> Unfortunately, I've found some cases where I don't get that message... =
at
least
not via the MENU() structure... how should I handle it? <

More correctly I should have said;

Provided message handling is performed correctly by using GETEVENT
(GetMessage) or PEEKEVENT (PeekMessage) in a loop, all windows (to my
knowledge) will receive a WM_PAINT message whenever the contents of the
Window needs refreshing. You will get a WM_PAINT message when the window =
is
first created too.

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>... When choosing between two evils take the one you never tried before.

Shucks, *that* sorta takes the mystique outa the question <GGGGGGGGGGGGGG>.
Sage advice, none the less, these days <G>
Thanks.
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
HI Pat,
The new Procview is on the web and ready for downloading.
I have been ill so if this is the second notification I am sorry>
Dale

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> Thanks for the assistance.
>
> In lieu of a working model, I decided to bite the bullet and write a
"clip"
> rountine using DOS interrupts.  The code is attached and appears to work.
> However, I believe it needs more work.
>
> I would like to add a couple of additional checks after each DOS call to
> ensure that the operation was successful.  The documentation I have states
> that "CF clear if successful".  Does anyone know what "CF" is and how it
> would be read in GFA.
>
> Thanks
>
>
> Pat


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List Member "Sjaak Aarnoutse" <aarnouts@zeelandnet.nl> wrote:
> Problem... how to get it to write zeros?
> ARRAYFILL zero%(),0 -> ARRAYFILL zero%(),48 results in: . . . 0 . . . 0,

Oh, imagined you would want NULL characters. Well, ASCI code 
for "0"=48,
in HEX this would be 30,
so try ARRAYFILL zero%(),$30303030


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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
At 08:36 PM 30/09/99 +0200, you wrote:
>List Member "Sjaak Aarnoutse" <aarnouts@zeelandnet.nl> wrote:
>> Problem... how to get it to write zeros?
>> ARRAYFILL zero%(),0 -> ARRAYFILL zero%(),48 results in: . . . 0 . . . 0,
>
>Oh, imagined you would want NULL characters. Well, ASCI code 
>for "0"=48,
>in HEX this would be 30,
>so try ARRAYFILL zero%(),$30303030
>
+++ _THERE_ is the secret... 4 char entry!  With chr$(0), only one *would*
be necessary since the remaining 3 would be chr$(0), also.  Gotcha, Boss!
Thanks much - this is much faster that all others that came out.  I'm still
on the low end of the learning curve, but I'm trying!  Thank you!
>
>met vriendelijke groet,
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List Member "Sjaak Aarnoutse" <aarnouts@zeelandnet.nl> wrote:
 
> I would like to add a couple of additional checks after each DOS call to
> ensure that the operation was successful.  The documentation I have states
> that "CF clear if successful".  Does anyone know what "CF" is and how it
> would be read in GFA.

CF would refer to the "Carry Flag", one bit of the x86 flag register. 

// test for error condition after interrupt call
IF ODD(_FL)
// react on error
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List Member "Russell Hayward" <russ@softhome.net> wrote:
Hi Engel,

I found some cases when it looked like WM_PAINT wasn't being received. I turned
out it was GFA doing some drawing to the window after I'd handled the WM_PAINT.
This is the best way to stop that:

CB WIN(1),WM_PAINT,PaintProc

PROCEDURE PaintProc(win&,mess&,w&,l%)
  ' Do drawing here
  KILLEVENT
  RETVAL DefWindowProc(win&,mess&,w&,l%)
RETURN

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> > Generally one does not programme Windows this way but replaces any
> > graphical content when a WM_PAINT message is sent to your app.
> >
>
> Unfortunately, I've found some cases where I don't get that message... at
least
> not via the MENU() structure... how should I handle it?
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List Member "Roland Walter" <roland@rowalt.de> wrote:

> My problem is to get the information which clipboard-format is set
> and how to read the clipboard-entry into a string.

Here is the correct way using GFA Basic commands:

OPENW #1
CLIPFORMAT CF_TEXT   'first set clipboard format you like to get
CLIPPASTE Adr%, Len%
//TheText$=PEEK$(ptrMem%,lenMem%) 'copy into string by length
TheText$=CHAR{ptrMem%} 'copy into string by NULL termination
PRINT TheText$
PRINT "The text is "+STR$(Len%)+" bytes long"
KEYGET Dummy%
CLOSEW #1

Here is a "professional version" with API.
Both, GFA and Windows API can return a length longer
then the real string. I hope I am correct when I tell
the CF_TEXT clipboard data are always NULL terminated?
In this case we simply can use the CHAR{} command to
read out the text. (Bye, Roland)

OPENW #1
IF OpenClipboard(WIN(1))<>0 'only if not just opened
  hMem&=GetClipboardData(CF_TEXT)
  IF hMem& 'only if available
    lenMem%=GlobalSize(hMem&) 'get size (may be > 32KB!!!)
    ptrMem%=GlobalLock(hMem&) 'lock and get address
    //TheText$=PEEK$(ptrMem%,lenMem%) 'copy into string by length
    TheText$=CHAR{ptrMem%} 'copy into string by NULL termination
    ~GlobalUnlock(hMem&) 'Unlock (do NOT free it!)
    ~CloseClipboard() 'do NOT forget!
    PRINT TheText$
    PRINT "The memory block is "+STR$(lenMem%)+" bytes long"
    PRINT "The text block is "+STR$(LEN(TheText$))+" bytes long"
  ENDIF
ENDIF
KEYGET Dummy%
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
'Handling von zeitaufwendigen Prozessen
'
' (C) Roland Walter, Sch=F6nhauser Allee 64, D-10437 Berlin,  Dezember 1995
'
' Sehr zeit- und rechenaufwendige Prozesse (Kopieren gro=DFer Dateien,
Durchlaufen von sehr
' umfangreichen Schleifen o.=E4.) sollten unter Windows m=F6glichst nicht=
 "in
einem Zug" durchlaufen
' werden, da sonst nicht gen=FCgend Rechenzeit f=FCr Hintergrundprozesse=
 bleibt.
Dazu geh=F6rt
' =FCbrigens auch der Fensteraufbau, das Message-Handling von Windows=
 u.s.w..
' Der betreffende Proze=DF kann =FCber WM_TIMER-Messages "h=E4ppchenweise"
durchgef=FChrt
' werden. Die Geschwindigkeit kann dar=FCber bestimmt werden, wie oft
WM_TIMER-Messages
' von Windows abgeschickt werden.
' Dieses Listing zeigt, wie WM_TIMER-Messages direkt an eine (Callback-)
Prozedur gesandt
' werden k=F6nnen, in der dann die Abarbeitung der gew=FCnschten Befehle
erfolgt. Die WM_TIMER-
' Messages gehen dabei "an der Hauptschleife vorbei" und beeinflussen diese
in keiner Weise.
'
' Nebenbei enth=E4lt das Listing noch ein Beispiel f=FCr die sehr einfache
Erzeugung eines
' Fortschrittsbalkens: In ein farbiges Text-Control werden m=F6glichst=
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Zeichen
' (Punkt oder | ) mit gleicher Vorder- und Hintergrundfarbe gesetzt. Bei
einem "flie=DFend"
' anwachsendem Balken sieht das etwas ruckelig aus, bei einem allm=E4hlichen
' Anwachsen erh=E4lt man aber ein sehr brauchbares Ergebnis.
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List Member Thomas Gonschor <verwaltung@vph-bensberg.de> wrote:
Hi Roland!

There is one thing I do not understand:

>    ~GlobalUnlock(hMem&) 'Unlock (do NOT free it!)

Why I do not have to free it?

Many thanks
Yours

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List Member Engel Nobbe <bluez@celestial.demon.nl> wrote:
It's getting more and more :-) Well, the idea behind it all is: I'm working on
something like an universal automatic window updating  and message handling
subroutine... And being unfamiliar with programming under windows, it takes a
bit of effort :-) So... here's the continuing story of... and any comments /
replies / answers are obviously welcome...


I.IsWindowVisible.

Interesting... it appears not everything always works as I expected it to...
or as it should... try to run the following, the function IsWindowVisible()
appears to return true all the time.

OPENW #1
a% = WIN(1)
REPEAT
  SLEEP
  PRINT AT(1,1)
  PRINT "zoomed";IsZoomed(a%)
  PRINT "iconic";IsIconic(a%)
  PRINT "enabled";IsWindowEnabled(a%)
  PRINT "visible";IsWindowVisible(a%)
  INC nnnn%
  PRINT nnnn%
UNTIL MOUSEK = 2


II. Not reported sizechange...

Some other things were not directly reported: a change size of the window
(enlarge it) does not generate a WP_PAINT (menu(1)=21) and it doesn't generate
a menu(1)=18 either, though I would expect it to. I'm working under W95, not
3.1, so there is no resize box, that might be the reason... (as the code 18
should be reported when the size box is selected, and under W95 there is no
sizebox, so go figure...)


III. Activation.

I now figure out if a window is activated by checking if it's active and
wasn't before. Haven't found a message for that one (doubtless there is, but
I'm stupid, remember)...


IV. Quickest commando's...

Another interesting thing: under GFA there are for every windows function
three different possibilities, it seems... is there a prefered (quickest)
commando set?


V. Update under interpreter.

And then a question: how can I see that I can update the contents of a window,
without the WP_PAINT message, under the interpreter? The following happens
sometimes:

1. I open a window.
2. I start drawing (not PRINTing!) use 'line'...
3. The drawing is complete, and Windows wipes the window...
4. And it doesn't happen under the compiler...
5. A simple print at(1,1);"" before drawing solves the problem in the
interpreter... weird...


VI. Alternative for 'sleep' without wiping out the messages.

I would like to hand back  control to windows for a specified amount of time,
before I continue the program, without using SLEEP (as that one empties
eventual messages)... is there a command / call for that?


Again, I would be much obliged etc. etc. etc. (You don't have to believe it
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List Member Engel Nobbe <bluez@celestial.demon.nl> wrote:
Lessee if I read this right... you capture all WM_PAINT messages for a specific
window and redirect them directly to the redraw routine, instead of figuring it out
with menu()... yeah... Would this also catch resizing etc.? I'll try it...

Russell Hayward wrote:

> List Member "Russell Hayward" <russ@softhome.net> wrote:
> Hi Engel,
>
> I found some cases when it looked like WM_PAINT wasn't being received. I turned
> out it was GFA doing some drawing to the window after I'd handled the WM_PAINT.
> This is the best way to stop that:
>
> CB WIN(1),WM_PAINT,PaintProc
>
> PROCEDURE PaintProc(win&,mess&,w&,l%)
>   ' Do drawing here
>   KILLEVENT
>   RETVAL DefWindowProc(win&,mess&,w&,l%)
> RETURN
>
> HTH,
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> > List Member Engel Nobbe <bluez@celestial.demon.nl> wrote:
> > > Generally one does not programme Windows this way but replaces any
> > > graphical content when a WM_PAINT message is sent to your app.
> > >
> >
> > Unfortunately, I've found some cases where I don't get that message... at
> least
> > not via the MENU() structure... how should I handle it?
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List Member Engel Nobbe <bluez@celestial.demon.nl> wrote:
I'm dutch, not german, but what the heck... in a nutshell: you shouldn't perform
very large time consuming processes in one go, but should handle in in smaller
blocks. This can be done using the WM_TIMER messages. This listing shows how
WM_TIMER messages can be used. This listing also shows a sample for creating a
'progress bar'.

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List Member Engel Nobbe <bluez@celestial.demon.nl> wrote:
Yeah... this works fine. I notice that you don't use the BEGINPAINT / ENDPAINT
instructions... a specific reason for that? Also, I've tried to use CB with
WM_ACTIVATE but couldn't get that one working either... but it's dedinitely getting
better! :-)

Russell Hayward wrote:

> List Member "Russell Hayward" <russ@softhome.net> wrote:
> Hi Engel,
>
> I found some cases when it looked like WM_PAINT wasn't being received. I turned
> out it was GFA doing some drawing to the window after I'd handled the WM_PAINT.
> This is the best way to stop that:
>
> CB WIN(1),WM_PAINT,PaintProc
>
> PROCEDURE PaintProc(win&,mess&,w&,l%)
>   ' Do drawing here
>   KILLEVENT
>   RETVAL DefWindowProc(win&,mess&,w&,l%)
> RETURN
>
> HTH,
> Russell Hayward
>
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> To: <gfabasic@gfa.net>
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> > List Member Engel Nobbe <bluez@celestial.demon.nl> wrote:
> > > Generally one does not programme Windows this way but replaces any
> > > graphical content when a WM_PAINT message is sent to your app.
> > >
> >
> > Unfortunately, I've found some cases where I don't get that message... at
> least
> > not via the MENU() structure... how should I handle it?
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List Member John Findlay <Jayef@compuserve.com> wrote:

Engel,

I'll answer one of your questions.

> Interesting... it appears not everything always works as I expected it
to...
or as it should... try to run the following, the function IsWindowVisible=
()
appears to return true all the time. <

IsWindowVisible() does not tell you if the Window is visible! Goodness, g=
et
a grip man! :-) Obviously you are new to Windows programming.

Here's an extract from a Windows API helpfile. You should get one. The GF=
A
help is not adequate.


=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
IsWindowVisible()
Return Value

If the specified window is visible on the screen (has the WS_VISIBLE
style), the return value is TRUE; otherwise, it is FALSE. Because the
return value specifies whether the window has the WS_VISIBLE style, it ma=
y
be TRUE even if the window is totally obscured by other windows. =

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
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List Member Michael Weigand <michael-weigand@foni.net> wrote:
Hi!

I am looking for a way to access the menu bar of another program in a way
that the program reacts as if I accessed it directly with mouse or keyboard.

I already know the handle of the main window. I think it can be done in two
ways:

- sending keystrokes to the main window, for example ALT-F, then
  another character 

- sending some sort of WM_LBUTTONDOWN message to the menu items. 

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List Member "Roland Walter" <roland@rowalt.de> wrote:

> There is one thing I do not understand:
> 
> >    ~GlobalUnlock(hMem&) 'Unlock (do NOT free it!)
> 
> Why I do not have to free it?

Because in the moment an application gives data to
the clipboard it's owned by clipboard. The data
handle (memory handle, bitmap handle or what else)
becomes invalid for You.
May be GFA Bascic does some background copy action
to prevent the data from user error (I don't know),
but correct is NOT to free the data.
In the example above You may not use
   ~GlobalFree(hMem&)
The only legal way to free clipboard data is to
use CLRCLIP or EmptyClipboard().

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List Member "EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" <JoeHurst@snafu.de> wrote:
> - sending keystrokes to the main window, for example ALT-F, then
>   another character
This is the usual way.
Simulating Mouse-Position-Events will not work if the other window has moved its
position.
For Mouse-Down etc. you need the handles of the other windows controls (e.g.
Buttons) to send the events directly to the controls.

Bye, Joe

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List Member Engel Nobbe <bluez@celestial.demon.nl> wrote:
> IsWindowVisible() does not tell you if the Window is visible! Goodness, get
> a grip man! :-) Obviously you are new to Windows programming.

It shows, doesn't it? :-)


> Here's an extract from a Windows API helpfile. You should get one. The GFA
> help is not adequate.

... and that's why I was caught off guard :-) I have the API bible somewhere...
have to dig it up and go through it, but it appears you guys are much better
than any book (slime slime dribble dribble drool drool :-)

Actually, the real problem is: I moved, and I packed it somewhere in some box
and can't find it back! Bummer... besides, I've done my stuff on an Amiga,
Atari, and MSdos machine in GFA, but concentrated on the code instead of
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List Member Engelbert van Loock <Engelbert.v@n.loock.com> wrote:
> I am looking for a way to access the menu bar of another program in a way
> that the program reacts as if I accessed it directly with mouse or keyboard.

I solved this problem a few month ago by posting a WM_COMMAND message to
the "strange" window with a _wParam value of the menue's id. To get the
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List Member John Findlay <Jayef@compuserve.com> wrote:

Engel,

> slime slime dribble dribble drool drool <

Sorry, that doesn't work here! ;)

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List Member Michael Weigand <michael-weigand@foni.net> wrote:
>List Member "EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" <JoeHurst@snafu.de> wrote:
>> - sending keystrokes to the main window, for example ALT-F, then
>>   another character
>This is the usual way.

I ran a Spy program to see the messages that occur when I press the keys.
There was no WM_CHAR or WM_KEYDOWN as I expected, but something like
WM_MENUSELECT or WM_INITMENUPOPUP...


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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Michael,
What is a SPY program and where do I get one? Perhaps I have one and don't
know it.
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----- > >This is the usual way.
>
> I ran a Spy program to see the messages that occur when I press the keys.
> There was no WM_CHAR or WM_KEYDOWN as I expected, but something like
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>
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List Member "Russell Hayward" <russ@softhome.net> wrote:

Hi Engel

> I.IsWindowVisible.

I think John's covered this one.

> II. Not reported sizechange...
>
> Some other things were not directly reported: a change size of the window
> (enlarge it) does not generate a WP_PAINT (menu(1)=21) and it doesn't generate
> a menu(1)=18 either, though I would expect it to. I'm working under W95, not
> 3.1, so there is no resize box, that might be the reason... (as the code 18
> should be reported when the size box is selected, and under W95 there is no
> sizebox, so go figure...)

I find sizing doesn't create a WM_PAINT when you shrink a window, but I thought
it did when enlarging. The best way to make sure is to catch WM_SIZE in a
callback (as you can tell, I like callbacks). WM_SIZE is sent whenever a
window's size is changed:

CB WIN(1),WM_SIZE,SizeProc

PROCEDURE SizeProc(win&,mess&,w&,l%)
  NewClientWidth&=LOWORD(l%)
  NewClientHeight&=HIWORD(l%)
  ' Can put drawing here if you like, or call the same procedure that
  ' draws when you get WM_PAINT
RETURN

> III. Activation.
>
> I now figure out if a window is activated by checking if it's active and
> wasn't before. Haven't found a message for that one (doubtless there is, but
> I'm stupid, remember)...
[from later message...]
> instructions... a specific reason for that? Also, I've tried to use CB with
> WM_ACTIVATE but couldn't get that one working either... but it's dedinitely
getting
> better! :-)

This works for me:

OPENW #1
CB WIN(1),WM_ACTIVATE,Activate
REPEAT
  SLEEP
UNTIL MENU(1)=4
CLOSEW #1
'
PROCEDURE Activate(win&,mess&,w&,l%)
  IF w&=0 'WA_INACTIVE
    ? "Deactivating"
  ELSE
    ? "Activating"
  ENDIF
RETURN


> IV. Quickest commando's...
>
> Another interesting thing: under GFA there are for every windows function
> three different possibilities, it seems... is there a prefered (quickest)
> commando set?

My personal preference is using the API commands (IsWindowVisible instead of
VISIBLE?) just because if I ever wanted to use a different language for
anything, they'd be pretty much the same.

> V. Update under interpreter.
>
> And then a question: how can I see that I can update the contents of a window,
> without the WP_PAINT message, under the interpreter? The following happens
> sometimes:
>
> 1. I open a window.
> 2. I start drawing (not PRINTing!) use 'line'...
> 3. The drawing is complete, and Windows wipes the window...
> 4. And it doesn't happen under the compiler...
> 5. A simple print at(1,1);"" before drawing solves the problem in the
> interpreter... weird...

I've had this happen too, very annoying. I've never known a case of Windows
wiping a window though, it's usually GFA's doing. Put the WM_PAINT CB I sent in
my previous mail into the program and see if that fixes it (you don't need to
draw anything inside the CB). PRINT seems to do something like a KILLEVENT, I
think it re-reads the message queue, hiding the WM_PAINT from GFA.

> VI. Alternative for 'sleep' without wiping out the messages.
>
> I would like to hand back  control to windows for a specified amount of time,
> before I continue the program, without using SLEEP (as that one empties
> eventual messages)... is there a command / call for that?

SLEEP is the best command to use. The way to make sure it returns from time to
time is to set up a timer:

OPENW #1
SETTIMER 1,1,200
REPEAT
  SLEEP
  ' Will return every 1/5 of a second or when another message is received
  ? "Message #";_Mess;" received"
UNTIL MENU(1)=4
KILLTIMER 1,1
CLOSEW #1

Can you clarify what you mean about SLEEP 'emptying eventual messages', I don't
think the above program misses any messages.

You can download the Windows 3.1 SDK from my website, as John said it's
incredibly useful.

Ta'ra,
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List Member Michael Weigand <michael-weigand@foni.net> wrote:
At 11:34 01.10.99 -0700, Dale Bryant wrote:

>What is a SPY program and where do I get one? Perhaps I have one and don't
>know it.

With most of MS programming software (C++, VisualBasic) comes a program
called Spy, Spyxx or whatsoever. It list all windows (like ProcView), child
windows, MDI cliends and so on. You can select one window and it shows you
all messages the window receives. Furthermore it lists all processes,
threads and more.


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List Member Engel Nobbe <bluez@celestial.demon.nl> wrote:
Some things might not work due to the version of GFAbasic I'm using... I've got
(IIRC) 4.35 here, I'll get an upgrade...


> > II. Not reported sizechange...
> I find sizing doesn't create a WM_PAINT when you shrink a window, but I thought
> it did when enlarging. The best way to make sure is to catch WM_SIZE in a
> callback (as you can tell, I like callbacks). WM_SIZE is sent whenever a
> window's size is changed:
>
> CB WIN(1),WM_SIZE,SizeProc

This did not work in my tests... I'll try again...


> > III. Activation.
>
> OPENW #1
> CB WIN(1),WM_ACTIVATE,Activate

Again, doesn't work at my place, and again, could be the basic version. I'll get
back on it when I've worked it out...

> > V. Update under interpreter.

> draw anything inside the CB). PRINT seems to do something like a KILLEVENT, I
> think it re-reads the message queue, hiding the WM_PAINT from GFA.

Indeed CB appears to solve it.


> > VI. Alternative for 'sleep' without wiping out the messages.

> SLEEP is the best command to use. The way to make sure it returns from time to
> time is to set up a timer:

Hmmm... yup, this I've tried and done as well. Except that in this case, I don't
want to mess up the message que, and sleep gets the waiting messages...

Funny thing: GETEVENT does wait 0.5 seconds unless there's a message. SLEEP
sometimes does, sometimes doesn't. It appears that SLEEP only waits if other
programs would like to have slices, while GETEVENT waits if there are no messages.
At least that's what it looks like, running the performance meter tool of Windows
95...

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List Member "Georg Veichtlbauer" <veichtlbauer@gmx.at> wrote:
A spy program is used to display ALL processes, events,.... in Windows. Its
quite useful if you want to look into Windows... :)
For example, there's a spy program (Spy++) provided with Visual C++

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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Thanks Michael,
I have VB5 but hardly ever use it.  I will look at it.
Dale

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> List Member Michael Weigand <michael-weigand@foni.net> wrote:
> At 11:34 01.10.99 -0700, Dale Bryant wrote:
>
> >What is a SPY program and where do I get one? Perhaps I have one and
don't
> >know it.
>
> With most of MS programming software (C++, VisualBasic) comes a program
> called Spy, Spyxx or whatsoever. It list all windows (like ProcView),
child
> windows, MDI cliends and so on. You can select one window and it shows you
> all messages the window receives. Furthermore it lists all processes,
> threads and more.
>
>
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List Member "Russell Hayward" <russ@softhome.net> wrote:

Hi Engel,

> Some things might not work due to the version of GFAbasic I'm using... I've
got
> (IIRC) 4.35 here, I'll get an upgrade...

Version 4.38 is the latest GFA Basic, but I think some of these problems might
not only be down to the version.

> > CB WIN(1),WM_SIZE,SizeProc
>
> This did not work in my tests... I'll try again...

> > OPENW #1
> > CB WIN(1),WM_ACTIVATE,Activate
>
> Again, doesn't work at my place, and again, could be the basic version. I'll
get
> back on it when I've worked it out...

I've combined the CBs into one program, I'll be very interested to know if it
works for you. The window it opens should go black when inactive and change to a
random garish :-)  colour when you activate it. I'm sorry, I forgot to mention
about WM_NCPAINT in my previous messages, it occurs when the border of your
window is redrawn, GFA will erase the contents of the window if it gets this
message too.

DEFWRD "a-z"
Col%=RGB(100+RAND(155),100+RAND(255),100+RAND(255))
'
OPENW #1
CB WIN(1),WM_PAINT,MessProc
CB WIN(1),WM_NCPAINT,MessProc
CB WIN(1),WM_SIZE,MessProc
CB WIN(1),WM_ACTIVATE,MessProc
Width=_X
Height=_Y
REPEAT
  SLEEP
UNTIL MENU(1)=4
CLOSEW #1
'
PROCEDURE MessProc(win,m,w,l%)
  IF m=WM_ACTIVATE
    IF w<>0
      ' Active
      Col%=RGB(100+RAND(155),100+RAND(255),100+RAND(255))
    ELSE
      'InActive
      Col%=0
    ENDIF
  ELSE IF m=WM_SIZE
    Width=LOWORD(l%)
    Height=HIWORD(l%)
  ENDIF
  dc=GetDC(win)
  oldbr=SelectObject(dc,CreateSolidBrush(Col%))
  ~Rectangle(dc,0,0,Width,Height)
  ~DeleteObject(SelectObject(dc,oldbr))
  ~ReleaseDC(win,dc)
  KILLEVENT
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RETURN

> > > VI. Alternative for 'sleep' without wiping out the messages.
>
> > SLEEP is the best command to use. The way to make sure it returns from time
to
> > time is to set up a timer:
>
> Hmmm... yup, this I've tried and done as well. Except that in this case, I
don't
> want to mess up the message que, and sleep gets the waiting messages...
>
> Funny thing: GETEVENT does wait 0.5 seconds unless there's a message. SLEEP
> sometimes does, sometimes doesn't. It appears that SLEEP only waits if other
> programs would like to have slices, while GETEVENT waits if there are no
messages.
> At least that's what it looks like, running the performance meter tool of
Windows
> 95...

I'm sorry, I didn't quite get what you meant here with my first reply. It will
be very difficult to not read the message queue. Commands like INKEY$, MOUSE,
PRINT, all will change the message queue. Why would you want to keep it how it
is, wouldn't you just end up with a huge backlog of messages?

Russell Hayward

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List Member Engel Nobbe <bluez@celestial.demon.nl> wrote:
It's back to the drawing board for me... I have to figure out why in my original
source the callbacks wouldn't work... bummer...


> Version 4.38 is the latest GFA Basic, but I think some of these problems might
> not only be down to the version.

I guess you're right...


> I'm sorry, I didn't quite get what you meant here with my first reply. It will
> be very difficult to not read the message queue. Commands like INKEY$, MOUSE,
> PRINT, all will change the message queue. Why would you want to keep it how it
> is, wouldn't you just end up with a huge backlog of messages?

Ah, just an idea I've been toying around with, having to do with full redraws of
screens. Delaying redraw requests when the program is not active would allow other
applics to have more timeslices available while, for example, moving windows. It's
just something to toy with, and I dropped it already as it didn't improve
performance much...

For adding delays, GETEVENT works better than SLEEP, have you tried it?


>
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List Member John Findlay <Jayef@compuserve.com> wrote:

Engel,

You asked what commando set to use; =


> IV. Quickest commando's...
>
> Another interesting thing: under GFA there are for every windows functi=
on
> three different possibilities, it seems... is there a prefered (quickes=
t)
> commando set?

IMO, the style of programming euphemistically called the 'C' style is bes=
t.

Reasons;

1. It's clearer
2. Bypasses many of the GFA quirks
3. Uses API's and is often faster
4. Easy to translate C source code into GFA
5. Encourages a disciplined programming style
6. Etc. etc. etc.

If you are not familiar with this style I will send you a hello world
example; if you want it!

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List Member "Russell Hayward" <russ@softhome.net> wrote:

> For adding delays, GETEVENT works better than SLEEP, have you tried it?

I just find tht SLEEP makes Windows run a bit faster than GETEVENT, that's why I
use it. Also the confusion about GETEVENT sometimes returning after half a
second and sometimes not, I just know where I am with SLEEP (it ain't coming
back until somat happens :-D).

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List Member UlliStemmeler@t-online.de (Ulli Stemmeler) wrote:

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Hi Roland, hi everybody,

the "easy" version of your clipboard-getting produces an error on my syst=
em when=20
the clipboard is empty or another clipboard-format than text is available=
 at the=20
moment of running the program.
I found out, using IsClipboardFormatAvailable() you can avoid this error,=
 as=20
well as the api-procedure Roland presented (as second routine).
I guess we have to avoid the ask for the clipboard without asking for the=
 format=20
first. Can be with IsClipboardFormatAvailable(format%)=3D true or with Ro=
lands
-----
 hMem& =3D GetClipboardData(format%)
 IF hMem& 'only if available
-----
See my routine Clipget.lst again (attachment), if you want, and comment i=
t !!

Greetings,

Ulli Stemmeler
M=FCnster/Germany
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List Member "EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" <JoeHurst@snafu.de> wrote:
> I ran a Spy program to see the messages that occur when I press the keys.
> There was no WM_CHAR or WM_KEYDOWN as I expected, but something like
> WM_MENUSELECT or WM_INITMENUPOPUP...

If Alt-F (for the filemenu) is send to a window, WM_INITMENU... occurs in the
messageloop. If Alt-F-O (Open Filemenu, Select "O" open file) is send to a
window, the WM_MENUSELECT-Message follows the Init-Menu-Msg.

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List Member Ludicart@aol.com wrote:
Hello,
 i have a problem with the avicap.dll:
i have a card Mirovideo dc1 and i want to put one avi preview capture window
 in my gfa programm,
i know make that in C, i write:
# include "avicap.h"
then
hWnd = capCreateCaptureWindow("Capture Window",WS_CHILD | WS_VISIBLE,
10, 10, 376, 282, hWnd, NULL);
SendMessage (hWnd, WM_CAP_DRIVER_CONNECT, 0 /* wIndex */,0L);
SendMessage (hWnd, WM_CAP_SET_PREVIEWRATE, 40, 0L);
SendMessage (hWnd, WM_CAP_SET_PREVIEW, TRUE, 0L);
SendMessage (hWnd, WM_CAP_SET_SCALE, TRUE, 0L);
and its work !
but in GFA ?
Can someone help me, please write me
Jean-Robert (i am french), sorry for my bad english my email is:
ludicart@aol.com
thank you very much...
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List Member Pat Bullman <pbullman@norex.com.au> wrote:
At 23:39 30/09/99 +0200, you wrote:
>CF would refer to the "Carry Flag", one bit of the x86 flag register. 
>
>// test for error condition after interrupt call
>IF ODD(_FL)
>// react on error
>ENDIF

Thanks, it did the trick!


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List Member John Findlay <Jayef@compuserve.com> wrote:

> Can someone help me, please write me <

Jean, the code below opens the avi capture window. I havn't tried to
capture one though. Hope that helps. Do you have the avicap.h file? You m=
ay
need it for all the constants.

Regards,

John

OPENW #1
DLL #1, "avicap.dll"
  DECL WORD capCreateCaptureWindow(l,l,w,w,w,w,w,w)
ENDDLL

DEFWRD "a-z"

WM_CAP_START           =3D WM_USER
WM_CAP_DRIVER_CONNECT  =3D WM_CAP_START + 10
WM_CAP_SET_PREVIEWRATE =3D WM_CAP_START + 52
WM_CAP_SET_PREVIEW     =3D WM_CAP_START + 50
WM_CAP_SET_SCALE       =3D WM_CAP_START + 53

hWnd =3D ^capCreateCaptureWindow("Capture Window", WS_CHILD | WS_VISIBLE,=
 10,
10, 376, 282, WIN(1), NULL)
~SendMessage(hWnd, WM_CAP_DRIVER_CONNECT, 0, 0)
~SendMessage(hWnd, WM_CAP_SET_PREVIEWRATE, 40, 0)
~SendMessage(hWnd, WM_CAP_SET_PREVIEW, TRUE, 0)
~SendMessage(hWnd, WM_CAP_SET_SCALE, TRUE, 0)

DO
  GETEVENT
UNTIL MENU(1) =3D 4

CLOSEW #1
FREEDLL 1
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List Member "David Ranson" <dranso1@hallmark-uk.com> wrote:



I'm trying the following code:-


DLL #1,"kernel"
  DECL LONG FindFirstFile(L,L)
ENDDLL


with "kernel" I get the error 'Dll-function undifined' on the DECL line

with "Kernel32" I get the error 'cannot find KERNEL32'


I'm using NT - and "C:\winnt\system32\kernel32.dll" is there - Please help.



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List Member "Georg Veichtlbauer" <veichtlbauer@gmx.at> wrote:
Well, there is no "kernel" in WinNT.
Only "Kernel32" is available in this 32-Bit OS. But: GFABasic (16) is not
able to access 32-BIT dlls... you will have to use the WOW! functions in
order to use that...
For a load of examples look at: www.gfawhelp.gfa.net

Georg

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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Is the new GFA32 only available in the German version? If so, When will the
English version be available?
Dale

http://gfawhelp.gfa.net
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List Member "Georg Veichtlbauer" <veichtlbauer@gmx.at> wrote:
> If anyone sees Tom Record tell him I love him!

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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Well, Georg, it is just because he is so grouchy which reminds me of
myself.(G)

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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
I don't mean in love. I just like Tom because he keeps thing going and he is
so grouchy!(G)
He gets involved in things that just makes me shake my head in wonderment.
I love it!!!
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Marijan has requested that I forward this to the mail list as he is unable
to get it posted.
Dale Bryant
From: Marijan Pollak <mpollak@bbm.hr>
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Subject: Fw: [gfabasic] Clip File


>     Honored sir!
>
>     Here is my latest email to GFA which did not appear at all, same as
> those with my
> questions about GFA32. I am sending a copy to You, and since everything
You
> send
> appear on the list, maybe You find the way to post it there.
>     Kindest regards, Marijan Pollak
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Marijan Pollak <mpollak@bbm.hr>
> To: <gfabasic@gfa.net>
> Sent: Friday, October 01, 1999 3:26 AM
> Subject: Re: [gfabasic] Clip File
>
>
> >        Esteemed colleagues!
> >     I usually do not intrude to discusions, since i have no time to
> > contribute.
> > This time I shall do so. It seems that all possibilities of Random files
> are
> > not known to all. There are ways to downplay housekeeping of file to
once
> in
> > a while,
> > but then you have to keep track of empty records, and this serve instead
> of
> > deleting.
> > Method requires little surplus wasting of space, since one have to chain
> > filled records
> > together, and separately chain "deleted" records. Since Random files are
> > written by
> > sequential order of record-key, you can use first record in the file as
> head
> > for both
> > chains. Here You can keep also other usefull item: number of last
written
> > record.
> > If record needs to be deleted, you can zero-fill it, rechain record
before
> > it to one
> > after it, and then put empty record at head of the chain of deleted
> records
> > pool.
> > Since file is vulnerable to power breaks and other means of interuption
> > while
> > rechaining, this process shall proceed stage by stage, and each stage
> shall
> > be noted,
> > again in first record of the file. For instance: when you know which
> record
> > is to be
> > deleted, you put its number in the field "erasing" ( in the first record
> of
> > the file ), and
> > numbers of preceeding record and succeeding record in the fields
> "leading",
> > and
> > "tailing". Then, you go and rechain "leading" to "tailing" records.
Next,
> > you change
> > "leading" to zero, and in "tailing" you put record number from "empty"
> > records
> > head-of-the-chain. At same time, you put record number from "erasing" to
> > "empty"
> > records head-of-the-chain. Now you can truly erase record in question
and
> > then put
> > record number from "tailing" to the "next" chain field in record itself.
> > When you
> > rewrite "erased" record succesfully, You zero "erasing" and "tailing"
> fields
> > in
> > first record of the file, and rewrite it to finalize operation. System
is
> > tested and is
> > truly bulletproof, I guarantee this with my reputation. I assume here
that
> > you know
> > usuall peculiarities of Random files: one have to Read record in
question
> > right
> > before it is Rewrited, new records are created by Writting, and you can
> > check if
> > record exist by reading it first and then testing for error caused by
> "EOF"
> > read
> > (but if you keep number of last written record in first record of the
> file,
> > then you
> > know that record you want to make does not exist...and also, you shall
> reuse
> > all
> > records from "empty" records chain, before opening new one!) I usually
use
> > the
> > largest number that field can hold to signalize that there is no records
> in
> > the chain
> > whose head I am testing. I know this all sounds complicated, but
actually
> it
> > is not,
> > once you have made proper procedures, you only have to call them with
only
> > parameter being actual record number they have to handle. Of course,
when
> > program
> > starts, it must check first status of operations as noted in first
record
> of
> > the file, and
> > proceed with step that was to be executed before something precluded it,
> if
> > "erasing"
> > field is not zero.
> >     But, that is not all. Since sequential numbers of records are not
much
> > usefull for the
> > "real world applications" usually there have to be index-table for
> searching
> > the file.
> > Actually, since there can be more than one kind of record in the file,
you
> > can have more
> > head-of-the-chain data in first record of the file, and several index
> > tables, too.
> >     Then, you can use split-cell organization to handle deleting of
> records
> > and additions,
> > too. If you use records of Random file as tables for storing records,
then
> > deleting is done
> > by shifting rest of records in the table one place up, starting from
> > position after "deleted"
> > record, and decreasing counter of records in this table-for-records,
which
> I
> > will call
> > "block-record" from now on. You can do the same in GFA basic with one
> BMOVE,
> > too, saving lot of time in the process. Inserting of new records can be
> done
> > that way too,
> > but to be on the safe side, do NOT BMOVE block of records from
> > point-of-insertion of new record to ending-record of table directly to
> point
> > of insertion + 1, because you do not know how BMOVE is implemented on
this
> > particular OS, and you can end with rest of table filled with same
record:
> > one from point-of-insertion. Therefore keep some workspace where to
> transfer
> > this part of table first, THEN transfer it to its place.
> >     Now, this type of organization is called "split-cell" because
> splitting
> > of block-record in case there is no more space left in internal table of
> > records, when you create new
> > block-record, chain it to filled record, transfer second-half of full
> > block-record to its
> > first-half, then erase second-half of original block-record. Both
> > block-records will have the
> > same value in respective internal actual record counter, which is half
of
> > table size. Therefore table in block-records have to have even number
> > capacity.
> >     All this I call "Partitioned Random Sequential" file, and I belive
it
> is
> > my invention.
> > Since there can be many kinds of records contained that way in otherwise
> > ordinary Random
> > file, you can have even "variable length records" if one kind of record
is
> > containing tables
> > of fields, and we keep only filled parts of such tables. This ask for
GOOD
> > organization of
> > internal indentifiers for record parts, and since block-record IS of
fixed
> > lenght, and table it
> > contains consist of fixed lenght records, then record-fields tables can
be
> > only of same, also
> > fixed lenght, then you have to find OPTIMAL size for actual
record-fields.
> > Usually, it is the
> > lenght of most occuring record-field. This file organization has
(allmost)
> > same processing
> > speed regardless of actual number of records existing in the file:
Indexes
> > are searched by
> > blocks first, and each block can contain hunderts of actual indexes, and
> > when you find the
> > index-block which contains ( or: should contain if record exist )
> reference
> > to record, it is
> > searched by binary search, which is very fast way to search the table:
go
> to
> > first row in
> > the second-half of number of rows filled in the table and compare with
> > record-indentifier
> > you are searching for. If it is what you are looking for, you have it.
If
> > found indentifier is
> > less than one you are looking for, calculate 1/2 of previous step size
and
> > add it to index
> > of row you were testing, then test this row. If indentifier in tested
row
> is
> > bigger than one
> > you are searching for, calculate 1/2 of previous step size and subtract
it
> > from index of
> > tested row, then go test row with this new index. Take care to test if
> step
> > size is smaller
> > than 2, lest you got zero increment/decrement value, this usually means
> > search has failed.
> > This is usually trickiest part of binary search, and you shall test your
> > algorithm by hand
> > to be sure it really works. Othervise, due to its nature, binary search
is
> > made for recursive
> > programming, which is great help sometimes and I only regret it were not
> > invented sooner.
> > To speed up things still more, you can have index table of index-blocks,
> too
> > ( one time
> > it was called: master-index ), which will enable you to search by binary
> > method even
> > index blocks themself. Next good thing is: there is only ONE file, and
> > usuall achiles heel
> > of Index-sequential organization is missing, you dont search indexes
> > sequentially, new
> > records are not added to special areas which are also to be searched
> > sequentially, and
> > nothing is added sequentially, and best of all, there is no limit to
> number
> > of records added
> > or deleted, no "dead" records to waste space....and if you expect lot of
> new
> > records, you can
> > create block-records only HALF or 2/3, or 3/4 filled, so they would not
> > split at once.
> >     I apologize for this "on-the-fly" writting, and to everyone who
knows
> > binary search
> > technic allready.
> >
> >         Kindest regards to all, Marijan Pollak,
> >         GFA general representative in Croatia,
> >         Europe
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net>
> > To: <gfabasic@gfa.net>
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 1999 9:04 PM
> > Subject: Re: [gfabasic] Clip File
> >
> >
> > > List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net>
> wrote:
> > > At 02:09 PM 29/09/99 -0400, you wrote:
> > > >List Member Micromiser Software <miser@cde.com> wrote:
> > > >At 10:30 AM 9/29/99 PST, you wrote:
> > > >>List Member Jim Pennington <Jim@x-act.net> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>I do a lot of file manipulation, and in my experience, it wouldn't
be
> > all
> > > >>that useful (your mileage may vary). When records are deleted, how
> often
> > > >>are they exactly at the end, unless some kind of packing operation
is
> > > >>performed? Packing may also be slow (a necessary evil), and when
> copying
> > > >>to a new file, space is only wasted until the original file is
> deleted.
> > > >>Copying/packing to a new file is also safer, since the old data is
> > > >>preserved until the duplication is complete. Packing and truncating
an
> > > >>existing file, however is vulnerable to a system crash, power
failure,
> > > >>reboot, etc.
> > > >>
> > > >I agree. Copying the file is the best way, quicker and more reliable.
> If
> > > >disk space is the problem, you could seek, read, seek, write, etc. I
> > > >wouldn't put that in a commercial package though, especially with
long
> > > >files. Enough disk problems as it is...
> > > >
> > > >-----
> > > >Steve Thornton
> > > >
> > > >-----------------
> > >
> > > Can we square away just what kind of files these are?  Random access
or
> > > "random" are fixed length records, predetermined by "field".
Sequential
> > > is the only thing I know of that can have varying record sizes.
Random
> > > FILES can be of any multiple of the rec size - exactly # of recs times
> > > field.  Sequential files can have 1024 1-byte recs in a 1K file or it
> > > can be 17 megs!  It has a pointer you can shift about (LOC()) to keep
> > > track of any changes you make.  If you have enough memory to do this,
> > > read the darned thing into an array then rewrite it back to disk &
skip
> > > the recs you want to delete.  BINGO - deleted recs, shortened file.
In
> > > fact, read to the array SKIPPING "deleted" recs then BMOVE the array
to
> > > the HD.  Wouldn't *that* work?
> > >
> > > It's going to take a little time to rewrite either kind.  Sequential
> files
> > > can be done, also.  By use of LOC(), you can read delimiter to
delimiter
> &
> > > write the new file only with valid records.  If you use recnum$ (or
> > something
> > > else like it) to keep track of random files, you can write zeros to
any
> > rec
> > > you delete or maintain a log in an *.ini of deleted recs.  You read
the
> > file
> > > & write a new one, writing only valiod recs again.  You can also do
your
> > > bookkeeping using the added field for recnum$ & actually copy recs
> forward
> > > as you delete'em.  Any way you look at it, you're in for some time &
HD
> > space
> > > to do *ANYTHING* akin to this.
> > >
> > > Fellers, I used to make damned good money doing the impossible as an
> > electronics
> > > engineering technician JUST BECAUSE I wouldn't follow the accepted
> rules!
> > I was
> > > the ONLY ET on NASA's design team for the Lunar Lander!  Everybody
else
> > had at
> > > least a Master's degree in engineering, most were PhDs!  Programming
is
> > the only
> > > thing I've tried that I had to do with all 10 fingers superglued
> together!
> > > <G>
> > > TomR.
> > >
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
At 03:53 PM 05/10/99 -0700, you wrote:
>List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
>Marijan has requested that I forward this to the mail list as he is unable
>to get it posted.
>Dale Bryant
>From: Marijan Pollak <mpollak@bbm.hr>
>To: <adbryant@email.msn.com>
>Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 1999 2:58 PM
>Subject: Fw: [gfabasic] Clip File
>
>
>>     Honored sir!
>>
>>     Here is my latest email to GFA which did not appear at all, same as
>> those with my
>> questions about GFA32. I am sending a copy to You, and since everything
>You
>> send
>> appear on the list, maybe You find the way to post it there.
>>     Kindest regards, Marijan Pollak
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Marijan Pollak <mpollak@bbm.hr>
>> To: <gfabasic@gfa.net>
>> Sent: Friday, October 01, 1999 3:26 AM
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>> >        Esteemed colleagues!
>> >     I usually do not intrude to discusions, since i have no time to
>> > contribute.
>> > This time I shall do so.

Marijan
Thank you for getting involved.  It would be very profitable for the rest
of us if you could find time to contribute occasionally.  Please subscribe 
to the list - it appears that you already receive it's content.
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List Member John Findlay <Jayef@compuserve.com> wrote:

Dale,

> He gets involved in things that just makes me shake my head in
wonderment. <

Wonderment! I've been wondering who this guy 'Ed' is that occasionally ge=
ts
involved and pokes his head into the News Letter! Do we know him, is he
hiding his identity for some reason? Let him come forward openly so we ca=
n
all get a look at him.

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List Member Jim Pennington <Jim@x-act.net> wrote:
In the process of converting the many Atari GFA programs that I have, I
need to add the Windows message processing "stuff". While this seems to
be reasonably straightforward, I'm missing a few things (if not more).

I understand the functions of and differences between the
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PEEKEVENT except it invokes the PROCEDURE if there is a message (as does
SLEEP)?

It also appears that PEEKEVENT, GETEVENT, SLEEP, and ON MENU will
all invoke a callback routine, if specified. Is this correct?

I'm gaining on it, I think,

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
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Boy, could I ever have fun with *this*, but I'd better pass given the
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>I'm gaining on it, I think,
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>Jim Pennington
>

Yer doin better'n *I* am, Jim.  G'Luck!
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List Member Jim Pennington <Jim@x-act.net> wrote:

> List Member Wolfgang Schindler <W.Schindler@josefstal.de> wrote: 
> Hi! 
>    
> List Member Jim Pennington <Jim@x-act.net> wrote: 
>    
> > It also appears that PEEKEVENT, GETEVENT, SLEEP, and ON MENU will 
> > all invoke a callback routine, if specified. Is this correct? 
>  
> as far as I know, it isn't. I learned the callback-basics by studying 
> the example-listings in the gfa-help file. 
>  
> mit freundlichen / herzlichen Gren 
>  
> Wolfgang Schindler

Wolfgang,

Thanks for your help. If that's not correct, what is?   :)

I've spent the last two days wading through the manual, the GFAWhelp
file, and a large number of sample listings. The GFA message handling
commands (as opposed to the Win API) seem to cover everything I need (for
the moment, at least). For that matter, the ON MENU xxx GOSUB will
probably cover all of my needs. I just need to be clear on what each does
and does not do.

The following seems to be pretty clear:
PEEKEVENT and GETEVENT are the same except for the fact that PEEKEVENT
returns immediately, and GETEVENT waits up to 0.5 seconds for a message.
If there is a message, either will invoke a callback, but neither will
invoke an ON MENU procedure. Right so far?

The following is less clear:
The manual says "SLEEP waits for an occurance of a message and branches
then to the procedures specified in ON MENU xxx GOSUB", but then says
"SLEEP uses a faster combination of GETEVENT and ON MENU". It would seem
logical that SLEEP does NOT invoke a callback procedure, but the
reference to GETEVENT confuses the issue.

Conclusion:
ON MENU and SLEEP are the same except that ON MENU returns immediately
and SLEEP does not return until it has a message. If there is a message,
either will invoke an ON MENU procedure, but neither will invoke a
callback. Have I got it right now?

I have no idea how this fits in (or exactly what it means, for that
matter): In the description of the CB command it says "The callbacks are
not activated if the program is running outside of the callbacks, except
for GETEVENT, PEEKEVENT, SLEEP, ON MENU, ALERT, FILESELECT.". Huh?

Am I getting close?

Jim Pennington



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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
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> >Good question, Joe.... :)
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List Member Wolfgang Schindler <W.Schindler@josefstal.de> wrote:
Hi!

List Member Jim Pennington <Jim@x-act.net> wrote:

> It also appears that PEEKEVENT, GETEVENT, SLEEP, and ON MENU will
> all invoke a callback routine, if specified. Is this correct?

as far as I know, it isn't. I learned the callback-basics by studying
the example-listings in the gfa-help file.

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
I did, but it didn't show up as usual.


At 08:22 AM 07/10/99 -0700, you wrote:
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-----Original Message-----
From: Hydroplus International (SA Branch) [mailto:hydropls@mweb.co.za]
Sent: Monday, October 04, 1999 4:06 PM
To: 'Andrew Johnson'; 'Andy Lubbe'; 'Anthony Kesten'; 'Arthur & Sheila
Wills'; 'Ashley Knoote-Parke'; 'Chris & Claudia Parr'; 'Dave Edmunds';
'David Jubb'; 'Debbie & Mike Diedericks'; 'Mary Johnson'; 'Sarah &
Clifford'; 'Shaun & Tanya'; 'Simon Marsden'; 'Tina Gough'
Subject: FW: NATIONAL PARK UNDER THREAT - PLEASE SIGN ON


>
> >>>  NATIONAL PARK UNDER THREAT - PLEASE SIGN ON
> >>>
> >>>  This is to protest against closing a National Park in South
> >>> Africa  that has rare animals (desert rhinos for example). It =
would be
> >the
> >>>
> >>> first time in SA that a National Park is "de-proclaimed", and the
> reason
> >>> is to
> >>>  allow for diamond mining. Please, sign and send it to your =
friends.
> >>>
> >>>  Please, please, please add your names to the list .........
> >>>
> >>>  DEPROCLAMATION (CLOSURE) OF VAALBOS NATIONAL PARK: Kimberley
> >>> Area,  South  Africa:
> >>>
> >>>  Please sign at the bottom for your signify and do include your =
town,
> >>>  country and e-mail address. If you receive this list and it has =
100
> >>>  names on it, please e-mail a copy of it to dtours@kimnet.co.za
> >>>
> >>>  Even if you decide not to sign, please be considerate and do not
> >>> kill  this important petition. (Choose either the COPY or FORWARD
> >>>  functions depending which is best at keeping the email legible.)
> >>> Thank you and kind regards.
> >>>
> >>>  Dirk Potgieter
> >>>  (Kimberley, South Africa.)
> >>>
> >>>  VAALBOS NATIONAL PARK (VNP) was proclamated by the South African
> >>>  Parliament in 1986 - the primary function of this 23 000 ha
> >>> National Park was to protect a rare combination of 3 x ecotypes =
and to
> >>> set up a safe and secure breeding facility for the highly =
endangered
> >>> (desert) black rhino and several other rare species. Larger animal
> >>> species found in the park on the schedule 1 list of endangered =
wild
> >>> animals include the (desert) black rhino, white rhino,African =
scaly
> >>> ant-eater and several schedule 2 endangered wild animals!
> >>>
> >>>  It is worth noting that Vaalbos National Park it is bordered
> >>> on the east & west boundaries by approx. 50 km of Vaal River =
frontage
> -
> >>> this being the only section of the Vaal River protected by =
National
> >>> Park status and containing rare barb, rock catfish and the
> >>> large-mouth yellowfish, not to mention birds, reptiles and =
insects.
> >>>
> >>>  The infrastructure of this uniquely diverse Park (situated 60
> >>> km north from Kimberley) was established primarily with a local
> >>> work force ("by the community for the benefit of the community")
> >>> recruited from among the impoverished local community along the
> eastern
> >>> boundary (Barkly West, Longlands, Delportshoop and Gong-Gong). It =
is
> >>> also worth noting that more than R4 million of local taxpayer =
money
> was
> >>> invested in setting up roads and tourist facilities within this
> Vaalbos
> >>> National Park. The promise was made from the very beginning and =
again
> >>> with the grand opening in November 1996 that Vaalbos National Park
> >>> would be a major economic boost and tourism asset to this =
neglected
> and
> >>>  progressively impoverished / unemployed area. As a young
> >>> National  Park, VNP was making its mark and visitor figures =
steadily
> >>> increased
> >>> with the charming 3 chalets very often fully book out.
> >>>
> >>>  But then on 24 July 1998 it was announced by Mr. Mavuso
> >>> Masimang, Chief Executive of the South African National Parks =
(SANP)
> that
> >>> the
> >>> SANP in conjunction with the Northern Cape Provincial Government
> >>> (NCPG) had decided upon deproclamation of the Park (the first Park
> ever
> >>> in South Africa to be deproclamated) and that it should thus lose =
its
> >>> National Park conservation status and legal protection. This
> >>> immediately influenced visitor figures negatively and amazed =
foreign
> >>> tourists.  According to a press release dated 25/07/98, Mr. Thabo
> >>> Makweya, the  NCPG MEC for agriculture, Environmental Affairs and =
Land
> >>> Reform,
> >>> stated that the interests of beginner miners (small diamond =
miners)
> would
> >>> receive preference in the area's new status of utilisation.
> >>> Deproclamate a National Park for small scale mining of unconfirmed
> >diamond
> >>>
> >>> deposits?
> >>>
> >>>  According to the SANP the initial aims for establishing a
> >>> larger Vaalbos National Park were not realised, partly due to the
> >>> manner in which it was done, which included threats of =
expropriation
> and
> >>>
> >>>  non-consolation; this was to be expected to lead to failure.
> >>> Other excuses such as not having aesthetic value, nor meeting the
> >>> IUCN merit system requirements, as well as not being able to carry =
and
> >>> sustain the major predators, are misleading - many Parks, even in
> South
> >>> Africa, do not meet these conditions and still exist. As for SANP =
and
> >>> NCPG themselves, there has been very limited communication and no
> >>>  consultation with the neglected and impoverished/unemployed
> >>>  surrounding area communities, as well as
> >>>  a definite lack of transparency and consideration in reaching
> >>> this decision. Destroying the well-established Vaalbos National
> >>> Park, with its much needed tourism potential for local =
communities,
> >>> and then attempting to establish a new National Park elsewhere in =
the
> >>>  province, is but a futile dream. The result would be progressive
> >>>  impoverishment of already unemployed communities, and any
> >>> attempt to establish a new National Park elsewhere in the province
> would
> >>> involve great (duplicated) financial cost.
> >>>
> >>>  The loss of Vaalbos National Park is our real issue here and
> >>> this being the first National Park to be deproclamated in South
> >>> Africa, this conservation failure would lay the foundation for =
further
> >>> onslaught on other National Parks, in a modern world where
> conservation
> >>> is fighting a losing battle.
> >>>
> >>>  To quote a foreign tourist once visiting Vaalbos National
> >>> Park:  "Some of the finest classic African scenery I have yet
> >>> experienced!"  We  hope to have a web page up within the near =
future,
> but
> >>> presently request your kind supporting vote in our quest to retain
> >Vaalbos
> >>>
> >>> National Park for conservation and as a viable development to the
> benefit
> >>> of
> >>> the surrounding communities.
> >>>
> >>>  We thank you for your time.
> >>>
> >>>  1.) Dirk Potgieter - Kimberley, South Africa - e-mail:
> >>> dtours@kimnet.co.za
> >>>  2.) Marzanne Potgieter - Kimberley, South Africa - e-mail:
> >>> dtours@kimnet.co.za
> >>>  3.) Mark Wilson - Kimberley, South Africa - e-mail:
> markw@kimnet.co.za
> >>>  4.) Linda Engelbrecht - Kimberley, SA - e-mail: =
linri@kimnet.co.za
> >>>  5.) Gavin Evans - Kimberley, SA - e-mail: docentre@intekom.co.za
> >>>  6.) Riaan Maritz - Kimberley, SA - e-mail: riaanm@Intekom.co.za
> >>>  7) Hardy Maritz - London, UK - e-mail: =
Hardy.H.Maritz@OPC.shell.com
> >>>  8) Andrew Fuller - Hilton , SA - e-mail: fuller@futurenet.co.za
> >>>  9) Adam Riley - Pietermaritzburg, SA - email:
> adam.riley@intekom.co.za
> >>>  10) Clive Wyatt - Pietermaritzburg, SA - e-mail: =
wyatts@yebo.co.za
> >>>  11) John Callie - Johannesburg, SA - e-mail: callijo@ey.co.za
> >>>  12) Sara Shave - Johannesburg, SA - e-mail: saras@espm.co.za
> >>>  13) Ilse Godwin- Johannesburg, South Africa, e-mail:
> >>> Godwini@rdd.aeci.co.za
> >>>  14)Karen Mitchell - Johannesburg, South Africa., e-mail:
> >>> Mitchellk@iata.co.za
> >>>  15)Nina Gehrke - Durban, South Africa, e-mail:
> >ninag@mitchellcotts.co.za
> >>>
> >>>  16) Lesley Hall - Durban, South Africa, e-mail:
> lesleyh@grincor.co.za
> >>>  17) Suzie Bosworth - London, UK, e-mail: =
suzanne.bosworth@bbc.co.uk
> >>>  18) Gary Wemyss - London, UK, e-mail gary_wemyss@londonelec.co.uk
> >>>  19) Michelle Gracie - Durban S.A./London U.K :
> >>> michellegracie@hotmail.com
> >>>  20 Tiffany de Waynecourt-Steele - Johannesburg, South Africa =
e-mail:
> >>> deWaynecourt-Steele@concourt.org.za
> >>>  21) Mona Monadjem - JHB RSA e-mail: mom@enf.co.za
> >>>  22) Edna Harris - JHB RSA e-mail: elh@enf.co.za
> >>>  23) Elizabeth Friguglietti - JHB, South Africa e-mail: =
ef@enf.co.za
> >>>  24)Yvette Van den Berg - JHB, RSA e-mail: yvb@enf.co.za
> >>>  25)Dana Tombuk- Johannesburg, South Africa e-mail: dt@enf.co.za
> >>>  26)Corinne Gomer-Jhb,South Africa e-mail: ctg1@hotmail.com
> >>>  27) Eran Segev - St. Louis, USA e-mail: Eran.Segev@stls.frb.org
> >>>  28) Nava Segev - Chicago, IL, USA e-mail: =
ns15@midway.uchicago.edu
> >>>  29) Aaron Turkewitz, Chicago, IL, USA e-mail:
> >>> apturkew@midway.uchicago.edu
> >>>  30) Anna Di Rienzo - Chicago, IL, USA e-mail:
> >>> dirienzo@genetics.uchicago.edu
> >>>  31) Guila GANEM- Montpellier, France e-mail:
> gganem@isem.univ-montp2.fr
> >>>  32) Victor Rambau - Pretoria, South Africa e-mail:
> >>> vrrambau@zoology.up.ac.zaet.co
> >>>  33)Catherine Githure e-mail: Catherine.Githure@fao.org
> >>>  34) Bob Phelps - Melbourne Australia e-mail: acfgenet@peg.apc.org
> >>>  35) Peter Brotherton - Melbourne Australia e-mail:
> bro@c031.aone.net.au
> >>>  36) Philip Sutton e-mail: psutton@pegasus.com.au
> >>>  37) Stephen Ray - Melb, Australia e-mail:
> >>> Stephen.Ray@manningham.vic.gov.au
> >>>  38) Peter Ikin, Pretoria, South Africa e-mail: =
isi.pete@mweb.co.za
> >>>  39) Simon Hartley - Pretoria, South Africa, e-mail:
> >>> simon@dwaf.pwv.gov.za
> >>>  40) Kerry Harris, Pretoria, South Africa, e-mail:
> oac@dwaf.pwv.gov.za
> >>>  41) Caroline Mathew, Pretoria, South Africa, e-mail:
> >cjmjsm@mailme.co.za
> >>>  42) Helen Gosnell, Cape Town, South Africa, e-mail:
> >>> helen.gosnell@mweb.co.za
> >>>  43) KG Anderson, Ann Arbor, Michigan USA, e-mail:
> >>> kganders@psc.lsa.umich.edu
> >>>  44) ST Pochron, Albuquerque, NM, USA, e-mail: spochron@unm.edu
> >>>  45) DC Moyer, Iringa, Tanzania e-mail: wcs@twiga.com
> >>>  46) JJ Mason, Accra, Ghana e-mail: ncrc@ghana.com
> >>>  47) MM Odonkor, Accra, Ghana e-mail: ncrc@ghana.com
> >>>  48) P Adjewodah, Accra, Ghana e-mail: ncrc@ghana.com
> >>>  49) Reg Hoyt, Philadelphia, PA, USA, e-mail:
> >>> hoyt.reg@philadelphiazoo.org
> >>>  50) Jamison Suter, Cambrige, UK e-mail: faunaflor@aol.com
> >>>  51) Edward O'Keefe, Cambridge, UK e-mail: edwardok@aol.com
> >>>  52) Evan Bowen-Jones, Cambridge, UK e-mail: ebjno2@compuserve.com
> >>>  53) Janet Margerison, London, UK e-mail: jmk@nhm.ac.uk
> >>>  54) Miguel Arazjo, London, UK e-mail: miga@nhm.ac.uk
> >>>  55) M-A Moreau, Montreal e-mail: c3ah@musica.mcgill.ca
> >>>  56) Kristin Lunn, Chicago, USA, e-mail: klunn@sheddaquarium.org
> >>>  57) Krista Chin, Brossard, Quebec, kchin16@hotmail.com
> >>>  58)Cornelia Genoni, Montreal, Quebec, cgenoni@crosswinds.net
> >>>  59) Thomas Croft Buck, Vejle, Denmark, T_buck@looksmart.com
> >>>  60)Nic Jensen, Slough, England. =
nicjensen@melody18.freeserve.co.uk
> >>>  61)TJ Moyer, Maryland, USA. tanda@boo.net
> >>>  62)WELClarke, Riverside, USA karani@earthling.net
> >>>  63) Trevlynn Oberholster, Silang, Cavite, Philippines,
> toberhol@ssd.org
> >>>  64)A J Oberholster, Singapore, ajoberh@pacific.net.sg
> >>>  65M C Oberholster, Singapore, ajoberh@pacific.net.sg
> >>>  "Lord prepare us for that which You are preparing for us."
> >>>  "Braam & Marie Oberholster"
> >>>  "Tel. (065) 284-2087"
> >>66} Myrtle Bredenkamp  Heidelberg South Africa.   =
myrtle@smartnet.co.za
> >>> 67) Olive van der Cilff  Mydelle Texas protea@ballistic.com
> >>> 68) Rene' Austin-Olivier Boring OR. rene@bandwidth,net
> >>> 69) Joan Olivier Kenilworth C Town, S.Africa  joan@vop.co.za
> >>> 70) Darrel le Roux  C Town, S.Africa ddleroux@mweb.co.za
> >>> 71)   Sherieen Pretorius, Durban, S.Africa sherieen@iti.co.za
> >>> 72) Tom Egling, Durban, S.Africa baudway@global.co.za
> >>>  73) Leighton W. Moody, Durban, S.Africa,  Leighton@iti.co.za
> >>> 74 ) Matthew Mansfield.  Durban, S.Africa, mattgsi@global.co.za
> >>> 75) Sue Oliver, Durban, S.Africa, soliver@eastcoast.co.za
> >>> 76) Clare Hartwig, Johannesburg, South Africa, clareh@mincom.com
> >>> 77) Cindy Whitehead, Johannesburg, South Africa, =
CindyW@nedcor.co.za
> >>> <mailto:CindyW@nedcor.co.za>
> >>> 78) Laura Provvedi, Johannesburg, South Africa, Laurap@qdd.co.za
> >>> <mailto:Laurap@qdd.co.za>
> >>> 79)  Harry Soma S.Africa harry.soma@icl.co.za
> >>> 80) Bruce Cloete S.Africa mailto:zeplin1@angelfire.com
> >>>81) Diane Skopelitis RSA  dianesk@absa.co.za
>        82) Rachel Kriel RSA rachelk@absa.co.za
>      83) Nikki Vakis RSA nikki.vakis@spl.co.za
>      84) Susan Love RSA susan.love@branch.co.za>
> >>>85) Larry Swartz RSA larrys@branch.co.za
>    86) Stephanie Metelerkamp, Sandton, RSA =
stephanie@corpcom-outdoor.co.za
>    87) Candice Fuller, Pretoria, RSA. candice@ist.co.za
>   88) Sheryl Holder, Randburg RSA sheryl@ist.co.za
> 89) Leo Gitelson, Roodepoort RSA leog@amplats.co.za
90) Toni Wills, Cape Town, RSA  hydropls@mweb.co.za
91) Ashley Knoote-Parke, Adelaide, South Australia, dnakp@primus.com.au
92)Reuben Carlsen, Sydney New South Wales, Australia
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<DIV><BR><BR>Ashley &amp; Dale Kn&ouml;ote-Parke<BR><BR>Email: <A=20
href=3D"mailto:dale.knoote-parke@bigfoot.com">mailto:dale.knoote-parke@bi=
gfoot.com</A><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
: <A=20
href=3D"mailto:ashley.knoote-parke@bigfoot.com">mailto:ashley.knoote-park=
e@bigfoot.com</A><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
or: <A=20
href=3D"mailto:dnakp@primus.com.au">mailto:dnakp@primus.com.au</A><BR>Pho=
ne: (08)=20
8367 ~ 6096 (Home / Fax)<BR>Mobile: 0413 721 923 (Dale)<BR>Mobile: 0413 =
720 964=20
(Ashley)<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; Web: <A=20
href=3D"http://www.bigfoot.com/~dnakp">http://www.bigfoot.com/~dnakp</A><=
BR><BR><BR><BR>-----Original=20
Message-----<BR>From: Hydroplus International (SA Branch) [<A=20
href=3D"mailto:hydropls@mweb.co.za">mailto:hydropls@mweb.co.za</A>]<BR>Se=
nt:=20
Monday, October 04, 1999 4:06 PM<BR>To: 'Andrew Johnson'; 'Andy Lubbe'; =
'Anthony=20
Kesten'; 'Arthur &amp; Sheila<BR>Wills'; 'Ashley Knoote-Parke'; 'Chris =
&amp;=20
Claudia Parr'; 'Dave Edmunds';<BR>'David Jubb'; 'Debbie &amp; Mike =
Diedericks';=20
'Mary Johnson'; 'Sarah &amp;<BR>Clifford'; 'Shaun &amp; Tanya'; 'Simon =
Marsden';=20
'Tina Gough'<BR>Subject: FW: NATIONAL PARK UNDER THREAT - PLEASE SIGN=20
ON<BR><BR><BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; NATIONAL PARK UNDER THREAT =
-=20
PLEASE SIGN ON<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; This is =
to=20
protest against closing a National Park in South<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;=20
Africa&nbsp; that has rare animals (desert rhinos for example). It would =

be<BR>&gt; &gt;the<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; first time =
in SA=20
that a National Park is &quot;de-proclaimed&quot;, and the<BR>&gt;=20
reason<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; is to<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; allow for =
diamond=20
mining. Please, sign and send it to your friends.<BR>&gt; =
&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; Please, please, please add your names to the list=20
.........<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; DEPROCLAMATION =

(CLOSURE) OF VAALBOS NATIONAL PARK: Kimberley<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; =
Area,&nbsp;=20
South&nbsp; Africa:<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; =
Please sign=20
at the bottom for your signify and do include your town,<BR>&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; country and e-mail address. If you receive this list =
and it=20
has 100<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; names on it, please e-mail a copy of =
it to <A=20
href=3D"mailto:dtours@kimnet.co.za">dtours@kimnet.co.za</A><BR>&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; Even if you decide not to sign, =
please=20
be considerate and do not<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; kill&nbsp; this important =

petition. (Choose either the COPY or FORWARD<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp;=20
functions depending which is best at keeping the email legible.)<BR>&gt; =

&gt;&gt;&gt; Thank you and kind regards.<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; Dirk Potgieter<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; (Kimberley, =
South=20
Africa.)<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; VAALBOS =
NATIONAL PARK=20
(VNP) was proclamated by the South African<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; =
Parliament=20
in 1986 - the primary function of this 23 000 ha<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; =
National=20
Park was to protect a rare combination of 3 x ecotypes and to<BR>&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt; set up a safe and secure breeding facility for the highly=20
endangered<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; (desert) black rhino and several other =
rare=20
species. Larger animal<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; species found in the park on =
the=20
schedule 1 list of endangered wild<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; animals include =
the=20
(desert) black rhino, white rhino,African scaly<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; =
ant-eater=20
and several schedule 2 endangered wild animals!<BR>&gt; =
&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; It is worth noting that Vaalbos National Park it is=20
bordered<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; on the east &amp; west boundaries by =
approx. 50 km=20
of Vaal River frontage<BR>&gt; -<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; this being the =
only=20
section of the Vaal River protected by National<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; =
Park status=20
and containing rare barb, rock catfish and the<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; =
large-mouth=20
yellowfish, not to mention birds, reptiles and insects.<BR>&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; The infrastructure of this =
uniquely=20
diverse Park (situated 60<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; km north from Kimberley) =
was=20
established primarily with a local<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; work force =
(&quot;by the=20
community for the benefit of the community&quot;)<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; =
recruited=20
from among the impoverished local community along the<BR>&gt; =
eastern<BR>&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt; boundary (Barkly West, Longlands, Delportshoop and =
Gong-Gong). It=20
is<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; also worth noting that more than R4 million of =
local=20
taxpayer money<BR>&gt; was<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; invested in setting up =
roads and=20
tourist facilities within this<BR>&gt; Vaalbos<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; =
National=20
Park. The promise was made from the very beginning and again<BR>&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt; with the grand opening in November 1996 that Vaalbos =
National=20
Park<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; would be a major economic boost and tourism =
asset to=20
this neglected<BR>&gt; and<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; progressively =
impoverished=20
/ unemployed area. As a young<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; National&nbsp; Park, =
VNP was=20
making its mark and visitor figures steadily<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;=20
increased<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; with the charming 3 chalets very often =
fully book=20
out.<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; But then on 24 July =
1998 it=20
was announced by Mr. Mavuso<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Masimang, Chief =
Executive of=20
the South African National Parks (SANP)<BR>&gt; that<BR>&gt; =
&gt;&gt;&gt;=20
the<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; SANP in conjunction with the Northern Cape =
Provincial=20
Government<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; (NCPG) had decided upon deproclamation =
of the=20
Park (the first Park<BR>&gt; ever<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; in South Africa =
to be=20
deproclamated) and that it should thus lose its<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; =
National=20
Park conservation status and legal protection. This<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; =

immediately influenced visitor figures negatively and amazed =
foreign<BR>&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt; tourists.&nbsp; According to a press release dated =
25/07/98, Mr.=20
Thabo<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Makweya, the&nbsp; NCPG MEC for agriculture,=20
Environmental Affairs and Land<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Reform,<BR>&gt; =
&gt;&gt;&gt;=20
stated that the interests of beginner miners (small diamond =
miners)<BR>&gt;=20
would<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; receive preference in the area's new status =
of=20
utilisation.<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Deproclamate a National Park for small =
scale=20
mining of unconfirmed<BR>&gt; &gt;diamond<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt; deposits?<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; =
According=20
to the SANP the initial aims for establishing a<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; =
larger=20
Vaalbos National Park were not realised, partly due to the<BR>&gt; =
&gt;&gt;&gt;=20
manner in which it was done, which included threats of =
expropriation<BR>&gt;=20
and<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; non-consolation; =
this was to=20
be expected to lead to failure.<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Other excuses such =
as not=20
having aesthetic value, nor meeting the<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; IUCN merit =
system=20
requirements, as well as not being able to carry and<BR>&gt; =
&gt;&gt;&gt;=20
sustain the major predators, are misleading - many Parks, even =
in<BR>&gt;=20
South<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Africa, do not meet these conditions and =
still exist.=20
As for SANP and<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; NCPG themselves, there has been =
very=20
limited communication and no<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; consultation =
with the=20
neglected and impoverished/unemployed<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; =
surrounding=20
area communities, as well as<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; a definite lack =
of=20
transparency and consideration in reaching<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; this =
decision.=20
Destroying the well-established Vaalbos National<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; =
Park, with=20
its much needed tourism potential for local communities,<BR>&gt; =
&gt;&gt;&gt;=20
and then attempting to establish a new National Park elsewhere in =
the<BR>&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; province, is but a futile dream. The result would be=20
progressive<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; impoverishment of already =
unemployed=20
communities, and any<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; attempt to establish a new =
National=20
Park elsewhere in the province<BR>&gt; would<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; =
involve great=20
(duplicated) financial cost.<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt; =
&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; The=20
loss of Vaalbos National Park is our real issue here and<BR>&gt; =
&gt;&gt;&gt;=20
this being the first National Park to be deproclamated in South<BR>&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt; Africa, this conservation failure would lay the foundation =
for=20
further<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; onslaught on other National Parks, in a =
modern=20
world where<BR>&gt; conservation<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; is fighting a =
losing=20
battle.<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; To quote a =
foreign=20
tourist once visiting Vaalbos National<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Park:&nbsp;=20
&quot;Some of the finest classic African scenery I have yet<BR>&gt; =
&gt;&gt;&gt;=20
experienced!&quot;&nbsp; We&nbsp; hope to have a web page up within the =
near=20
future,<BR>&gt; but<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; presently request your kind =
supporting=20
vote in our quest to retain<BR>&gt; &gt;Vaalbos<BR>&gt; =
&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt; National Park for conservation and as a viable development =
to=20
the<BR>&gt; benefit<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; of<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; the =
surrounding=20
communities.<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; We thank =
you for=20
your time.<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; 1.) Dirk =
Potgieter -=20
Kimberley, South Africa - e-mail:<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; <A=20
href=3D"mailto:dtours@kimnet.co.za">dtours@kimnet.co.za</A><BR>&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; 2.) Marzanne Potgieter - Kimberley, South Africa -=20
e-mail:<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; <A=20
href=3D"mailto:dtours@kimnet.co.za">dtours@kimnet.co.za</A><BR>&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; 3.) Mark Wilson - Kimberley, South Africa - =
e-mail:<BR>&gt;=20
<A href=3D"mailto:markw@kimnet.co.za">markw@kimnet.co.za</A><BR>&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; 4.) Linda Engelbrecht - Kimberley, SA - e-mail: <A=20
href=3D"mailto:linri@kimnet.co.za">linri@kimnet.co.za</A><BR>&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; 5.) Gavin Evans - Kimberley, SA - e-mail: <A=20
href=3D"mailto:docentre@intekom.co.za">docentre@intekom.co.za</A><BR>&gt;=
=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; 6.) Riaan Maritz - Kimberley, SA - e-mail: <A=20
href=3D"mailto:riaanm@Intekom.co.za">riaanm@Intekom.co.za</A><BR>&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; 7) Hardy Maritz - London, UK - e-mail: <A=20
href=3D"mailto:Hardy.H.Maritz@OPC.shell.com">Hardy.H.Maritz@OPC.shell.com=
</A><BR>&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; 8) Andrew Fuller - Hilton , SA - e-mail: <A=20
href=3D"mailto:fuller@futurenet.co.za">fuller@futurenet.co.za</A><BR>&gt;=
=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; 9) Adam Riley - Pietermaritzburg, SA - email:<BR>&gt; =
<A=20
href=3D"mailto:adam.riley@intekom.co.za">adam.riley@intekom.co.za</A><BR>=
&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; 10) Clive Wyatt - Pietermaritzburg, SA - e-mail: <A=20
href=3D"mailto:wyatts@yebo.co.za">wyatts@yebo.co.za</A><BR>&gt; =
&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp;=20
11) John Callie - Johannesburg, SA - e-mail: <A=20
href=3D"mailto:callijo@ey.co.za">callijo@ey.co.za</A><BR>&gt; =
&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp;=20
12) Sara Shave - Johannesburg, SA - e-mail: <A=20
href=3D"mailto:saras@espm.co.za">saras@espm.co.za</A><BR>&gt; =
&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp;=20
13) Ilse Godwin- Johannesburg, South Africa, e-mail:<BR>&gt; =
&gt;&gt;&gt; <A=20
href=3D"mailto:Godwini@rdd.aeci.co.za">Godwini@rdd.aeci.co.za</A><BR>&gt;=
=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; 14)Karen Mitchell - Johannesburg, South Africa.,=20
e-mail:<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; <A=20
href=3D"mailto:Mitchellk@iata.co.za">Mitchellk@iata.co.za</A><BR>&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; 15)Nina Gehrke - Durban, South Africa, =
e-mail:<BR>&gt; &gt;<A=20
href=3D"mailto:ninag@mitchellcotts.co.za">ninag@mitchellcotts.co.za</A><B=
R>&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; 16) Lesley Hall - Durban, South =
Africa,=20
e-mail:<BR>&gt; <A=20
href=3D"mailto:lesleyh@grincor.co.za">lesleyh@grincor.co.za</A><BR>&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; 17) Suzie Bosworth - London, UK, e-mail: <A=20
href=3D"mailto:suzanne.bosworth@bbc.co.uk">suzanne.bosworth@bbc.co.uk</A>=
<BR>&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; 18) Gary Wemyss - London, UK, e-mail <A=20
href=3D"mailto:gary_wemyss@londonelec.co.uk">gary_wemyss@londonelec.co.uk=
</A><BR>&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; 19) Michelle Gracie - Durban S.A./London U.K =
:<BR>&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt; <A=20
href=3D"mailto:michellegracie@hotmail.com">michellegracie@hotmail.com</A>=
<BR>&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; 20 Tiffany de Waynecourt-Steele - Johannesburg, South =
Africa=20
e-mail:<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; <A=20
href=3D"mailto:deWaynecourt-Steele@concourt.org.za">deWaynecourt-Steele@c=
oncourt.org.za</A><BR>&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; 21) Mona Monadjem - JHB RSA e-mail: <A=20
href=3D"mailto:mom@enf.co.za">mom@enf.co.za</A><BR>&gt; =
&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; 22)=20
Edna Harris - JHB RSA e-mail: <A=20
href=3D"mailto:elh@enf.co.za">elh@enf.co.za</A><BR>&gt; =
&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; 23)=20
Elizabeth Friguglietti - JHB, South Africa e-mail: <A=20
href=3D"mailto:ef@enf.co.za">ef@enf.co.za</A><BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; =
24)Yvette=20
Van den Berg - JHB, RSA e-mail: <A=20
href=3D"mailto:yvb@enf.co.za">yvb@enf.co.za</A><BR>&gt; =
&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; 25)Dana=20
Tombuk- Johannesburg, South Africa e-mail: <A=20
href=3D"mailto:dt@enf.co.za">dt@enf.co.za</A><BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; =

26)Corinne Gomer-Jhb,South Africa e-mail: <A=20
href=3D"mailto:ctg1@hotmail.com">ctg1@hotmail.com</A><BR>&gt; =
&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp;=20
27) Eran Segev - St. Louis, USA e-mail: <A=20
href=3D"mailto:Eran.Segev@stls.frb.org">Eran.Segev@stls.frb.org</A><BR>&g=
t;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; 28) Nava Segev - Chicago, IL, USA e-mail: <A=20
href=3D"mailto:ns15@midway.uchicago.edu">ns15@midway.uchicago.edu</A><BR>=
&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; 29) Aaron Turkewitz, Chicago, IL, USA e-mail:<BR>&gt; =

&gt;&gt;&gt; <A=20
href=3D"mailto:apturkew@midway.uchicago.edu">apturkew@midway.uchicago.edu=
</A><BR>&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; 30) Anna Di Rienzo - Chicago, IL, USA e-mail:<BR>&gt; =

&gt;&gt;&gt; <A=20
href=3D"mailto:dirienzo@genetics.uchicago.edu">dirienzo@genetics.uchicago=
.edu</A><BR>&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; 31) Guila GANEM- Montpellier, France e-mail:<BR>&gt; =
<A=20
href=3D"mailto:gganem@isem.univ-montp2.fr">gganem@isem.univ-montp2.fr</A>=
<BR>&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; 32) Victor Rambau - Pretoria, South Africa =
e-mail:<BR>&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt; <A=20
href=3D"mailto:vrrambau@zoology.up.ac.zaet.co">vrrambau@zoology.up.ac.zae=
t.co</A><BR>&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; 33)Catherine Githure e-mail: <A=20
href=3D"mailto:Catherine.Githure@fao.org">Catherine.Githure@fao.org</A><B=
R>&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; 34) Bob Phelps - Melbourne Australia e-mail: <A=20
href=3D"mailto:acfgenet@peg.apc.org">acfgenet@peg.apc.org</A><BR>&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; 35) Peter Brotherton - Melbourne Australia =
e-mail:<BR>&gt; <A=20
href=3D"mailto:bro@c031.aone.net.au">bro@c031.aone.net.au</A><BR>&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; 36) Philip Sutton e-mail: <A=20
href=3D"mailto:psutton@pegasus.com.au">psutton@pegasus.com.au</A><BR>&gt;=
=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; 37) Stephen Ray - Melb, Australia e-mail:<BR>&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt; <A=20
href=3D"mailto:Stephen.Ray@manningham.vic.gov.au">Stephen.Ray@manningham.=
vic.gov.au</A><BR>&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; 38) Peter Ikin, Pretoria, South Africa e-mail: <A=20
href=3D"mailto:isi.pete@mweb.co.za">isi.pete@mweb.co.za</A><BR>&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; 39) Simon Hartley - Pretoria, South Africa, =
e-mail:<BR>&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt; <A=20
href=3D"mailto:simon@dwaf.pwv.gov.za">simon@dwaf.pwv.gov.za</A><BR>&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; 40) Kerry Harris, Pretoria, South Africa, =
e-mail:<BR>&gt; <A=20
href=3D"mailto:oac@dwaf.pwv.gov.za">oac@dwaf.pwv.gov.za</A><BR>&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; 41) Caroline Mathew, Pretoria, South Africa, =
e-mail:<BR>&gt;=20
&gt;<A =
href=3D"mailto:cjmjsm@mailme.co.za">cjmjsm@mailme.co.za</A><BR>&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; 42) Helen Gosnell, Cape Town, South Africa, =
e-mail:<BR>&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt; <A=20
href=3D"mailto:helen.gosnell@mweb.co.za">helen.gosnell@mweb.co.za</A><BR>=
&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; 43) KG Anderson, Ann Arbor, Michigan USA, =
e-mail:<BR>&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt; <A=20
href=3D"mailto:kganders@psc.lsa.umich.edu">kganders@psc.lsa.umich.edu</A>=
<BR>&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; 44) ST Pochron, Albuquerque, NM, USA, e-mail: <A=20
href=3D"mailto:spochron@unm.edu">spochron@unm.edu</A><BR>&gt; =
&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp;=20
45) DC Moyer, Iringa, Tanzania e-mail: <A=20
href=3D"mailto:wcs@twiga.com">wcs@twiga.com</A><BR>&gt; =
&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; 46) JJ=20
Mason, Accra, Ghana e-mail: <A=20
href=3D"mailto:ncrc@ghana.com">ncrc@ghana.com</A><BR>&gt; =
&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; 47)=20
MM Odonkor, Accra, Ghana e-mail: <A=20
href=3D"mailto:ncrc@ghana.com">ncrc@ghana.com</A><BR>&gt; =
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List Member "EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" <JoeHurst@snafu.de> wrote:
YEAH! Today I got the first release of GFA-Basic 32!

Some first words:
- Package contents: 1 CD, no books/etc. (will follow soon, GFA promises).
- Harddisc-requirements: less than 40 MB for "complete installation".
- No SDK included (a big german documentation will follow soon, GFA promises)

Bye, Joe
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Wow! This stuff is exactly what we need here in the GFA-Basic-ML... 

Bye, Joe

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List Member "Georg Veichtlbauer" <veichtlbauer@gmx.at> wrote:
wow... you really got it a bit late, i think... i received my copy 1 1/2
weeks ago... :)
i have to say that i really like it... its better than the betas made me to
expect... :)

Georg

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List Member Engel Nobbe <bluez@celestial.demon.nl> wrote:
> I have no idea how this fits in (or exactly what it means, for that
> matter): In the description of the CB command it says "The callbacks are
> not activated if the program is running outside of the callbacks, except
> for GETEVENT, PEEKEVENT, SLEEP, ON MENU, ALERT, FILESELECT.". Huh?

I think I might have the answer for you here, and it's perhaps more simple
that you think... without the GETEVENT etc. etc. commands, Windows itself
will not get the chance to generate a message, as your program is eating up
all (or allmost all) timeslices... (It's not what I call multitasking, but
that appears to be the way things work.) So... if Windows doesn't get the
chance to do something it can't initiate a callback...

At least that's my gist of it...

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List Member Engel Nobbe <bluez@celestial.demon.nl> wrote:
It actually is, it was offered to me at 510 DM. It appears, however, that it is
not the final version, as there is documentation and so on missing. It included
a free update to the final version that would include the final documentation
and *might* or might not include some other elements. A later release might be
expanded with new features, but would only become available for an additional
upgrade price, at least that is how I read the email send to me...

The offer was only valid for a limited timeframe!

Dale Bryant wrote:

> List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> Is the new GFA32 only available in the German version? If so, When will the
> English version be available?
> Dale
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List Member Engel Nobbe <bluez@celestial.demon.nl> wrote:
I am seriously considering buying it. Is it worth it?


Georg Veichtlbauer wrote:

> List Member "Georg Veichtlbauer" <veichtlbauer@gmx.at> wrote:
> wow... you really got it a bit late, i think... i received my copy 1 1/2
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> i have to say that i really like it... its better than the betas made me to
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List Member "Russell Hayward" <russ@softhome.net> wrote:
Hi Jim,

I don't know anything about ON MENU, I try to avoid it like the plague. On
the ST I would rather write my own GUI than use it (my brother actually
wrote GFA replacements for many of the GEMAES functions).

> The manual says "SLEEP waits for an occurance of a message and branches
> then to the procedures specified in ON MENU xxx GOSUB", but then says
> "SLEEP uses a faster combination of GETEVENT and ON MENU". It would seem
> logical that SLEEP does NOT invoke a callback procedure, but the
> reference to GETEVENT confuses the issue.

Unfortunately for our sanity, SLEEP does invoke callbacks, in fact almost
all my programs use SLEEPs with CBs and they seem to work fine.

I think the problem is that an ON MENU xxx GOSUB is just a callback by
another name. ON MENU MESSAGE, for example, seems to get WM_MOUSEMOVE but
not WM_SETCURSOR.

> Conclusion:
> ON MENU and SLEEP are the same except that ON MENU returns immediately
> and SLEEP does not return until it has a message. If there is a message,
> either will invoke an ON MENU procedure, but neither will invoke a
> callback. Have I got it right now?

No. :-)

> I have no idea how this fits in (or exactly what it means, for that
> matter): In the description of the CB command it says "The callbacks are
> not activated if the program is running outside of the callbacks, except
> for GETEVENT, PEEKEVENT, SLEEP, ON MENU, ALERT, FILESELECT.". Huh?

Now I'm really confused

>
> Am I getting close?
>

I dunno.

Here's what I would do when converting a program. Put a SLEEP into the main
loop and after you open your window put:

CB WIN(?),0 TO -1,WndProc

And then create one routine, handle any messages you want, and ignore the
others.

HTH,
Russ


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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
At 07:46 PM 08/10/99 +0200, you wrote:
>List Member Engel Nobbe <bluez@celestial.demon.nl> wrote:
>I am seriously considering buying it. Is it worth it?
>
>
>Georg Veichtlbauer wrote:
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>> List Member "Georg Veichtlbauer" <veichtlbauer@gmx.at> wrote:
>> wow... you really got it a bit late, i think... i received my copy 1 1/2
>> weeks ago... :)
>> i have to say that i really like it... its better than the betas made me to
>> expect... :)
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Would you guys seriously consider a new list for 32-bit discussions?
There are thise of us forced to remain w/ 16-bit & I suspect you are
about to swamp this list w/ 32-bit issues that do not consern us.

I suspect support for 16-bit will now dwindle to zilch anyway & that
you fellers will find less & less time to answer 16-bit questions.

I *could* shut up & just let things happen as they will, but I have $500US
tied up in this mess & getting help on getting into deep subjects is already
on a steady decline.

Good luck, & happy 32-bitting.
TomR,

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List Member "Georg Veichtlbauer" <veichtlbauer@gmx.at> wrote:
You're right... well I think it's me who has to shut up... :)

> I suspect support for 16-bit will now dwindle to zilch anyway & that
> you fellers will find less & less time to answer 16-bit questions.

I cannot speak for Joe and all the others, but I'll continue working with
GFA-16 for several reasons whilst working with GFA-32, Visual C++/Basic.


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List Member "EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" <JoeHurst@snafu.de> wrote:
> You're right... well I think it's me who has to shut up... :)
Not only you... ;-)

> I cannot speak for Joe and all the others, but I'll continue working with
> GFA-16 for several reasons whilst working with GFA-32, Visual C++/Basic.
I am sure you can speak in this way for me and some others - starting with GFA32
seriously will not leave any time for the old languages. I am happy to reconcile
VB and GFA32 in a professional way - no more place for old 16-bit-problems.
Another question is to solve daily programming problems - this is what I will do
for the 16-bit-community further on.

BTW: Tom, did my UU-package help you?

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List Member "EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" <JoeHurst@snafu.de> wrote:
> I am seriously considering buying it. Is it worth it?
If you are german and know something about visual basic: do it now - it is worth
it's upgrading price. GFA is surely better than VB, even it contains some ugly
lacks (the RCS, uuuuurrrrrggggggghhhhhhh).

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List Member "EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" <JoeHurst@snafu.de> wrote:
> Would you guys seriously consider a new list for 32-bit discussions?
We will, I am sure - even GFA16 becomes a only a backgrounder for me - those
times have gone, sorry. I am writing to the majordomo about a new list.

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List Member "EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" <JoeHurst@snafu.de> wrote:
> wow... you really got it a bit late, i think... i received my copy 1 1/2
> weeks ago... :)
But I have a really fresh compilation.
BTW: you know  that your sample about how to get the Windows-release does not
work with windows 95/98? (Release 4.00.xxxx is a non-acceptable result - release
3.95 Build xxxx wouldbe correct.)

> i have to say that i really like it... its better than the betas made me to
> expect... :)
I love it. I have my first application done with it, I will offer it to our
community at the end of next week: no installation program, easy to remove, very
fast - at all, no comparision to Visual Basic 5/6 (my favorites for three years
now).

Bye, Joe

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List Member "EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" <JoeHurst@snafu.de> wrote:
> It included a free update to the final version that would include the final
documentation
> and *might* or might not include some other elements.
The current documentation is a bunch of Adobe-files (german, of course) and a
small (1.2 MB) Winhelp32-file and a bigger Winhelp16-file (we all now well from
GFAWIN16).

> A later release might be expanded with new features, but would only become
available
> for an additional upgrade price, at least that is how I read the email send to
me...
The printed docs will be free!

The new release (decemeber 99) will include a database-engine (I guess: Borlands
Paradox+) and, perhaps, a big german helpfile about the API. That will we no
problem for our english friends: I found an api-documentation on the web by MS
in Winhelp-format (less than 15! MB) that can be used instead.

> The offer was only valid for a limited timeframe!
That's true.

Bye, Joe

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List Member "Malcolm Jack Howard" <machoward@bigpond.com> wrote:
Can anyone explain why this:

RGBCOLOR  RGB(0,0,0)

is being rendered as light grey by some PCs with colour depths greater than
256?

Mac Howard

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

Mac
Have you tried GETNEAREST?
Otherwise, NO, I can't explain the problem.  Often happens on a P-100
with 16-bit video.  It doesn't respect the colorchart given for the
DOS color scheme at all!
<G>
TomR.

At 08:11 AM 09/10/99 +0800, you wrote:
>List Member "Malcolm Jack Howard" <machoward@bigpond.com> wrote:
>Can anyone explain why this:
>
>RGBCOLOR  RGB(0,0,0)
>
>is being rendered as light grey by some PCs with colour depths greater than
>256?
>
>Mac Howard
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List Member Engel Nobbe <bluez@celestial.demon.nl> wrote:
Yea, I think this would be a good idea. I'm working in both languages (trying to
keep older products updated without completely having to rewrite them) and indeed
there will be a lot of questions on the new GFA32. A suggestion for GFA? (Anybody
of GFA reading this?)

Tom Record wrote:

> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> At 07:46 PM 08/10/99 +0200, you wrote:
> >List Member Engel Nobbe <bluez@celestial.demon.nl> wrote:
> >I am seriously considering buying it. Is it worth it?
> >
> >
> >Georg Veichtlbauer wrote:
> >
> >> List Member "Georg Veichtlbauer" <veichtlbauer@gmx.at> wrote:
> >> wow... you really got it a bit late, i think... i received my copy 1 1/2
> >> weeks ago... :)
> >> i have to say that i really like it... its better than the betas made me to
> >> expect... :)
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> Would you guys seriously consider a new list for 32-bit discussions?
> There are thise of us forced to remain w/ 16-bit & I suspect you are
> about to swamp this list w/ 32-bit issues that do not consern us.
>
> I suspect support for 16-bit will now dwindle to zilch anyway & that
> you fellers will find less & less time to answer 16-bit questions.
>
> I *could* shut up & just let things happen as they will, but I have $500US
> tied up in this mess & getting help on getting into deep subjects is already
> on a steady decline.
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> Good luck, & happy 32-bitting.
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List Member Engel Nobbe <bluez@celestial.demon.nl> wrote:
"EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" wrote:

> List Member "EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" <JoeHurst@snafu.de> wrote:
> > I am seriously considering buying it. Is it worth it?
> If you are german and know something about visual basic: do it now - it is worth

We were refering to GFA32, I already do have the normal GFAwin and GFAdos :-)


> it's upgrading price. GFA is surely better than VB, even it contains some ugly
> lacks (the RCS, uuuuurrrrrggggggghhhhhhh).

I though GFA32 didn't have an RCS?!? <puzzled look>

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List Member Engel Nobbe <bluez@celestial.demon.nl> wrote:
I couldn't get it working properly either, and ran into some other problems when
working with colors. In the end, I used the following solution (that is probably
not very good, but what the heck, it works...)

x_wincolor() selects a color from the standard palette
x_nearcolor() tries to use a color from the standard palette using GETNEAREST
but didn't work on all machines
x_realcolor() worked on all machines

x_wiw% is window interior width
x_wih% is window interior height
x_sc% is number of screen colours allowed

--- code sample ---

    dy% = x_wih% / 6
    FOR n% = 0 TO x_wiw% - 1
      c% = n% * 16 / x_wiw%
      x_wincolor(c%)
      LINE n%,dy% * 0,n%,dy% * 1 - 1
      c% = n% * 256 / x_wiw%
      COLOR c%
      LINE n%,dy% * 1,n%,dy% * 2 - 1
      r% = INT(256 * n% / x_wiw%)
      g% = INT(256 * n% * 2 / x_wiw%) MOD 256
      b% = INT(256 * n% * 4 / x_wiw%) MOD 256
      x_nearcolor(r%,g%,b%)
      LINE n%,dy% * 2,n%,dy% * 3 - 1
      x_realcolor(r%,g%,b%)
      LINE n%,dy% * 3,n%,dy% * 4 - 1
      x_realcolor_end
      x_realcolor(r%,r%,r%)
      LINE n%,dy% * 4,n%,dy% * 5 - 1
      x_realcolor_end
      x_opticolor(r%,g%,b%)
      LINE n%,dy% * 5,n%,dy% * 6 - 1
      x_opticolor_end
    NEXT n%
    COLOR 0
    '
RETURN
'
PROCEDURE x_wincolor(c%)
  '
  ' use standard windows colors (0..15) these are mapped different
  ' use 256 as max, wrap seems to work in any mode
  '
  IF c% => 8
    c% = MIN(256,x_sc%) - 16 + c%
  ENDIF
  COLOR c%
  '
RETURN
'
PROCEDURE x_nearcolor(r%,g%,b%)
  '
  ' select a color in the standard palette that comes closest to the
  ' specified RGB values, only palette colors are used, >256 as 16 color
  '
  COLOR GETNEAREST(r%,g%,b%)
RETURN
'
PROCEDURE x_realcolor(r%,g%,b%)
  '
  ' create o,object and specify rgb color, destroys previous creations,
  ' works best with >256 colours, carefull with resources! use always
  ' this one, then draw your lines, then exec x_realcolor_end
  '
  x_realcolor_ph& = CreatePen(PS_SOLID,1,RGB(r%,g%,b%))
  x_realcolor_oh& = SelectObject(x_wdc&,x_realcolor_ph&)
  '
  ' this is based on the following code:
  '
  '     pen_handle&=CreatePen(PS_SOLID,1,RGB(r%,g,b))
  '     object_handle&=SelectObject(x_wdc&,pen_handle&)
  '     LINE ... ...
  '     VOID SelectObject(x_wdc&,object_handle&)
  '     IF pen_handle& THEN VOID DeleteObject(pen_handle&)
  '
RETURN
'
PROCEDURE x_realcolor_end
  VOID SelectObject(x_wdc&,x_realcolor_oh&)
  IF x_realcolor_ph& THEN VOID DeleteObject(x_realcolor_ph&)
RETURN
'
PROCEDURE x_opticolor(r%,g%,b%)
  '
  ' can be used to provide resolution independend color selection, use in
  ' combination with x_opticolor_end, so first execute this, then draw your
  ' line, then execute x_opticolor_end
  '
  IF x_sc% > 256
    x_realcolor(r%,g%,b%)
  ELSE
    x_nearcolor(r%,g%,b%)
  ENDIF
RETURN
'
PROCEDURE x_opticolor_end
  IF x_sc% > 256
    x_realcolor_end
  ENDIF

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List Member Engel Nobbe <bluez@celestial.demon.nl> wrote:
Damn... something went missing when pasting, here's the last sample of the code
again...

PROCEDURE x_opticolor_end
  IF x_sc% > 256
    x_realcolor_end
  ENDIF
RETURN
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List Member "franz-xaver.schweiger" <franz-xaver.schweiger@debitel.net> wrote:
The maximum size of "hidden windows" is the desktopsize, but i need
larger
"hidden windows" or "MemDCs" (for example 2048 x 2048 Pixel size) for
Game- or Graphic- programming.

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
At 01:02 PM 09/10/99 +0200, you wrote:
>List Member "franz-xaver.schweiger" <franz-xaver.schweiger@debitel.net> wrote:
>The maximum size of "hidden windows" is the desktopsize, but i need
>larger
>"hidden windows" or "MemDCs" (for example 2048 x 2048 Pixel size) for
>Game- or Graphic- programming.
>

Try:
OPENW #31,-2050,0,2048,2048,0 (no caption)
Should make a "hidden" window 2048 x 2048, two pixels out of sight to
the left side.  You can choose above, below, or to the right, also.

OPENW #31,0,-2050,2048,2048,0 above (no caption)
OPENW #31,0,_Y+2,2048,2048,0 below (no caption)
OPENW #31,_X+2,0,2048,2048,0 to the right (no caption)

Do all of your "flicker" work there, then move the part of the window
you want to see back to 0,0.
<G>
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List Member "Malcolm Jack Howard" <machoward@bigpond.com> wrote:
>Have you tried GETNEAREST?


I began with GETNEAREST and the erratic results I got caused me to take up
RGBCOLOR <g>

>Otherwise, NO, I can't explain the problem.  Often happens on a P-100
>with 16-bit video.  It doesn't respect the colorchart given for the
>DOS color scheme at all!
><G>


The plot thickens. I now hear that the problem only occurs if the colour
depth is set to 32 bit colour.

I love this Windows platform <G>

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List Member "Malcolm Jack Howard" <machoward@bigpond.com> wrote:
>I couldn't get it working properly either, and ran into some other problems
when
>working with colors. In the end, I used the following solution (that is
probably
>not very good, but what the heck, it works...)


Does anyone on this list produce a program using colours that is sent out to
PCs they have no access to? What is their solution?

>x_wincolor() selects a color from the standard palette
>x_nearcolor() tries to use a color from the standard palette using
GETNEAREST
>but didn't work on all machines
>x_realcolor() worked on all machines


Looks like I might have to try out x_realcolor() though with over 4,000
color statements I don't look forward to it.

But are we saying that GFA's GETNEAREST and RGBCOLOR statements just can't
be used if we need colour integrity? I replaced GETNEAREST with RGBCOLOR
because the first produced erratic results. Now I'm beginning to understand
that RGBCOLOR is no better.

RGBCOLOR works fine on the PCs I have access to but I have feedback telling
me that others have problems. I'm becoming a real Windows fan <G>

I'll check out your suggestions. But is there configuration advice I can
give the user to help?

Mac Howard


>x_wiw% is window interior width
>x_wih% is window interior height
>x_sc% is number of screen colours allowed
>
>--- code sample ---
>
>    dy% = x_wih% / 6
>    FOR n% = 0 TO x_wiw% - 1
>      c% = n% * 16 / x_wiw%
>      x_wincolor(c%)
>      LINE n%,dy% * 0,n%,dy% * 1 - 1
>      c% = n% * 256 / x_wiw%
>      COLOR c%
>      LINE n%,dy% * 1,n%,dy% * 2 - 1
>      r% = INT(256 * n% / x_wiw%)
>      g% = INT(256 * n% * 2 / x_wiw%) MOD 256
>      b% = INT(256 * n% * 4 / x_wiw%) MOD 256
>      x_nearcolor(r%,g%,b%)
>      LINE n%,dy% * 2,n%,dy% * 3 - 1
>      x_realcolor(r%,g%,b%)
>      LINE n%,dy% * 3,n%,dy% * 4 - 1
>      x_realcolor_end
>      x_realcolor(r%,r%,r%)
>      LINE n%,dy% * 4,n%,dy% * 5 - 1
>      x_realcolor_end
>      x_opticolor(r%,g%,b%)
>      LINE n%,dy% * 5,n%,dy% * 6 - 1
>      x_opticolor_end
>    NEXT n%
>    COLOR 0
>    '
>RETURN
>'
>PROCEDURE x_wincolor(c%)
>  '
>  ' use standard windows colors (0..15) these are mapped different
>  ' use 256 as max, wrap seems to work in any mode
>  '
>  IF c% => 8
>    c% = MIN(256,x_sc%) - 16 + c%
>  ENDIF
>  COLOR c%
>  '
>RETURN
>'
>PROCEDURE x_nearcolor(r%,g%,b%)
>  '
>  ' select a color in the standard palette that comes closest to the
>  ' specified RGB values, only palette colors are used, >256 as 16 color
>  '
>  COLOR GETNEAREST(r%,g%,b%)
>RETURN
>'
>PROCEDURE x_realcolor(r%,g%,b%)
>  '
>  ' create o,object and specify rgb color, destroys previous creations,
>  ' works best with >256 colours, carefull with resources! use always
>  ' this one, then draw your lines, then exec x_realcolor_end
>  '
>  x_realcolor_ph& = CreatePen(PS_SOLID,1,RGB(r%,g%,b%))
>  x_realcolor_oh& = SelectObject(x_wdc&,x_realcolor_ph&)
>  '
>  ' this is based on the following code:
>  '
>  '     pen_handle&=CreatePen(PS_SOLID,1,RGB(r%,g,b))
>  '     object_handle&=SelectObject(x_wdc&,pen_handle&)
>  '     LINE ... ...
>  '     VOID SelectObject(x_wdc&,object_handle&)
>  '     IF pen_handle& THEN VOID DeleteObject(pen_handle&)
>  '
>RETURN
>'
>PROCEDURE x_realcolor_end
>  VOID SelectObject(x_wdc&,x_realcolor_oh&)
>  IF x_realcolor_ph& THEN VOID DeleteObject(x_realcolor_ph&)
>RETURN
>'
>PROCEDURE x_opticolor(r%,g%,b%)
>  '
>  ' can be used to provide resolution independend color selection, use in
>  ' combination with x_opticolor_end, so first execute this, then draw your
>  ' line, then execute x_opticolor_end
>  '
>  IF x_sc% > 256
>    x_realcolor(r%,g%,b%)
>  ELSE
>    x_nearcolor(r%,g%,b%)
>  ENDIF
>RETURN
>'
>PROCEDURE x_opticolor_end
>  IF x_sc% > 256
>    x_realcolor_end
>  ENDIF
>
>--- end of code sample ---
>
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List Member John Findlay <Jayef@compuserve.com> wrote:


List Member "franz-xaver.schweiger" <franz-xaver.schweiger@debitel.net>
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The maximum size of "hidden windows" is the desktopsize, but i need
larger "hidden windows" or "MemDCs" (for example 2048 x 2048 Pixel size)
for
Game- or Graphic- programming.<


// Create the DC. Size at this time 1*1 pixel
hdc& =3D GetDC(hwnd&)
hdcMemory& =3D CreateCompatibleDC(hdc&)

// Select a bitmap into the DC. Will take the size of bitmap
hbmpOld& =3D SelectObject(hdcMemory&, hbmpMyBitmap&)

// Blit etc.
~BitBlt(hdc&, 0, 0, bmWidth&, bmHeight&, hdcMemory&, 0, 0, SRCCOPY)

// Select old object
~SelectObject(hdcMemory&, hbmpOld&)

// Cleanup
~DeleteDC(hdcMemory&)
~ReleaseDC(hwnd&, hdc&)


// REMARKS
// Before an application can use a memory device context for
// drawing operations, it must select a bitmap of the correct
// width and height into the device context. Once a bitmap
// has been selected, the device context can be used to prepare
// images that will be copied to the screen or printed.


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List Member "Georg Veichtlbauer" <veichtlbauer@gmx.at> wrote:
> BTW: you know  that your sample about how to get the Windows-release does
not
> work with windows 95/98? (Release 4.00.xxxx is a non-acceptable result -
release
> 3.95 Build xxxx wouldbe correct.)
Really? My installation shows 4.00.1998 as version number (without one of my
programs..). I think if my program returns 4.00.1998 it should be correct!
(?)

> fast - at all, no comparision to Visual Basic 5/6 (my favorites for three
years now).
Well, VB and VC++ are still one of my favorites. But I'm using GFA-16 and 32
as well, because GB32 is highly compatible with most of my old GB16 code.

Bye,
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List Member "Georg Veichtlbauer" <veichtlbauer@gmx.at> wrote:
> We will, I am sure - even GFA16 becomes a only a backgrounder for me -
those
> times have gone, sorry. I am writing to the majordomo about a new list.

Well, my opinion, Joe!

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List Member "Georg Veichtlbauer" <veichtlbauer@gmx.at> wrote:
> I though GFA32 didn't have an RCS?!? <puzzled look>

Guy... it HAS an RCS... and it _really_ looks like that one of VB (remember:
i said "looks") <G>


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I sent Roy instructions on joining the mail list but maybe someone would =
like to take a crack at this.

http://gfawhelp.gfa.net
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adbryant@gfa.net
----- Original Message -----=20
From: roy burgess=20
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HELP!!!!

HOW CAN I PRINT TO ANY PRINTER SET AT ANY RESOLUTION AND GET THE SAME =
SIZE PRINT AND SAME SPACING USING DIFFERENT FONT SIZES WITHOUT CHANGING =
THE DEFAULT PRINTER AND WITHOUT CHANGING THE PRINTER RESOLUTION AND =
WITHOUT USING THE PRINTER SETUP DIALOG.=20

I AM USING GFA 4.38 ON AN I.B.M. COMP. COMPUTER.
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

>I'll check out your suggestions. But is there configuration advice I can
>give the user to help?
>
>Mac Howard
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Tell'em to buy MacIntosh next time.

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List Member Engel Nobbe <bluez@celestial.demon.nl> wrote:
> Does anyone on this list produce a program using colours that is sent out to
> PCs they have no access to? What is their solution?

I actually do:-) That's why I tried this solution... it's part of a program that
displays a kind of Cad drawing on screen. The original program was in GFAdos,
but I needed a Windows viewer, then found out that some users couldn't view it
properly... grmble...


> I'll check out your suggestions. But is there configuration advice I can
> give the user to help?

Try a different combination of color depth / resolution. I'm not entirely sure,
but the problem did NOT appear on recent / new videocards (at least nobody told
me). I think it has something to do with the driver / card combination...

Then again, my stuff isn't running on enough machines to do it properly
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List Member Engel Nobbe <bluez@celestial.demon.nl> wrote:
Would like to, but there's no GFA for the Mac :-)


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    Von: Dale Bryant <adbryant@email.msn.com>
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    Datum: Sonntag, 10. Oktober 1999 00:46
    Betreff: [gfabasic] Fw: PRINTING TO PRINTER
   =20
   =20
    I sent Roy instructions on joining the mail list but maybe someone =
would like to take a crack at this.
   =20
    http://gfawhelp.gfa.net
    adbryant@msn.com
    adbryant@gfa.net
    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: roy burgess=20
    To: adbryant@gfa.net=20
    Sent: Sunday, October 10, 1999 7:25 AM
    Subject: PRINTING TO PRINTER
   =20
   =20
    HELP!!!!
   =20
    HOW CAN I PRINT TO ANY PRINTER SET AT ANY RESOLUTION AND GET THE =
SAME SIZE PRINT AND SAME SPACING USING DIFFERENT FONT SIZES WITHOUT =
CHANGING THE DEFAULT PRINTER AND WITHOUT CHANGING THE PRINTER RESOLUTION =
AND WITHOUT USING THE PRINTER SETUP DIALOG.=20
   =20
    I AM USING GFA 4.38 ON AN I.B.M. COMP. COMPUTER.
    I HAVE PLENTY OF RAM (320M) AND PLENTY OF DISK SPACE(19G) TO DO THIS =
WITH.
   =20
    THANKS
    ROY BURGESS
   =20
   =20

Hi Roy,

You can do all this thinks you like.
But you can do it only with API functions.
Your RAMs and disk spaces are not interessting.
Before we show you an example, we must know somethink.
What will you print?
It's a different to programm functions for printing text, bitmaps, =
drawings, a.s.o.
Are you a beginner of GFA Basic programming, or an expert of API =
functions
programming?

Before we don't know the answer of this questions, we do nothing,
because it will be some great works writing examples for each printing =
routines.

Greetings

Eberhard
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    <DIV><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, October 10, 1999 7:25 AM</DIV>
    <DIV><B>Subject:</B> PRINTING TO PRINTER</DIV></DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV align=3Dcenter><FONT face=3DArial =
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    <DIV align=3Dleft>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>HOW CAN I PRINT TO ANY =
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    <DIV align=3Dleft>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I AM USING GFA 4.38 ON =
AN I.B.M.=20
    COMP. COMPUTER.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I HAVE PLENTY OF RAM =
(320M) AND=20
    PLENTY OF DISK SPACE(19G) TO DO THIS WITH.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV align=3Dleft>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV align=3Dcenter><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>THANKS</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV align=3Dcenter><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>ROY =
BURGESS</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi Roy,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>You can do all this thinks you =
like.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>But you can do it only with API=20
functions.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Your RAMs and disk spaces are not=20
interessting.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Before we show you an example, we must =
know=20
somethink.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>What will you print?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It's a different to programm functions =
for printing=20
text, bitmaps, drawings, a.s.o.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Are you a beginner of GFA Basic =
programming, or an=20
expert of API functions</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>programming?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Before we don't know the answer of this =
questions,=20
we do nothing,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>because it will be some great works =
writing=20
examples for each printing routines.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Greetings</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Eberhard</FONT></DIV>
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List Member Engel Nobbe <bluez@celestial.demon.nl> wrote:
Well, I guess he's not the only one who wonders about
printing under Windows...

I would assume I would have to initialize / setup a bitmap,
somehow redirect all my output there, then hand it over to
windows and print it?

A simple sample would come in handy :-)


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List Member "EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" <JoeHurst@snafu.de> wrote:
> > it's upgrading price. GFA is surely better than VB, even it 
> contains some ugly lacks (the RCS, uuuuurrrrrggggggghhhhhhh).
> 
> I though GFA32 didn't have an RCS?!? <puzzled look>
Stop thinking - let it be done by horses, they have bigger heads ;-))

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List Member "EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" <JoeHurst@snafu.de> wrote:
Georg,
How about the subject with "GFA32:" as leading words as long we have no own
mailing-list? Everybody can use a filter now to move mails for GFA-BASIC 32 into
another section of his mail-proggie (Outlook: "Create rule").

> Really? My installation shows 4.00.1998 as version number (without one of my
> programs..). I think if my program returns 4.00.1998 it should be correct!
> (?)
Uh - you're right, I don't know which devil rided me when writing that your app
is not correct. I compared it with one of my sources (which detects win98 as
well, see below). In the past, I used a GFA16-source which delivered "3.95" for
Windows 95, whyever.

Bye, Joe

'
' get the current running Windows version
' - windows 95/a/b will be detected
' - windows 95/98 will be detected
' Free 10/1998 JoeHurst@snafu.de
'
Type OSVERSIONINFO
  ' all parameters are DWORD in C = long in GFA32
  dwOSVersionInfoSize As Long
  dwMajorVersion As Long
  dwMinorVersion As Long
  dwBuildNumber As Long
  dwPlatformId As Long
  ' this is a null-terminated string
  szCSDVersion As String*128
End Type
' This function is build-in:
' Declare Function GetVersionEx Lib "kernel32" Alias "GetVersionExA"
(lpVersionInformation As OSVERSIONINFO) As Long
Const VER_PLATFORM_WIN32_WINDOWS = 1
Const VER_PLATFORM_WIN32_NT = 2
'
Dim OS As OSVERSIONINFO
OS.dwOSVersionInfoSize = Len(OS)
Void GetVersionEx(OS)
'
' if you use the WITH-construct, GB32 produces error "Type passt nicht" (type
doesn't fit)
' With OS
If OS.dwMajorVersion = 4 Then
  ' Windows NT, 95 oder 98
  If OS.dwPlatformId = VER_PLATFORM_WIN32_NT Then
    MsgBox "Windows NT " & ZTrim$(OS.szCSDVersion) & ":" & OS.dwMajorVersion &
"." & OS.dwMinorVersion & "." & OS.dwBuildNumber
  Else If OS.dwPlatformId = VER_PLATFORM_WIN32_WINDOWS Then
    ' not NT: the buildnumber must be AND-masked with 65535 ($FFFF)
    If OS.dwMinorVersion = 0 Then               ' Windows 95
      MsgBox "Windows 95 " & ZTrim$(OS.szCSDVersion) & ":" & OS.dwMajorVersion &
"." & OS.dwMinorVersion & "." & (OS.dwBuildNumber And &HFFFF)
    Else If OS.dwMinorVersion = 10 Then         ' Windows 98
      MsgBox "Windows 98 " & ZTrim$(OS.szCSDVersion) & ":" & OS.dwMajorVersion &
"." & OS.dwMinorVersion & "." & (OS.dwBuildNumber And &HFFFF)
    Else
      MsgBox "Unknown Windows " & ZTrim$(OS.szCSDVersion) & ":" &
OS.dwMajorVersion & "." & OS.dwMinorVersion & "." & (OS.dwBuildNumber And
&HFFFF)
    End If
  Else
    MsgBox "Unknown Windows " & ZTrim$(OS.szCSDVersion) & ":" &
OS.dwMajorVersion & "." & OS.dwMinorVersion & "." & (OS.dwBuildNumber And
&HFFFF)
  End If
Else
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& "." & OS.dwMinorVersion & "." & OS.dwBuildNumber
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
You have few options... SLIM to DAMNED NEARLY NOTHING!  Go to the GFA
server & look in the windows files folder.  There are several examples
there, but all require some smarts because they're not exactly functional
as they are.  Using API handling, you can iron out all of the problems
except possibly wrapping long lines & continuing w/ the next.  It should
be possible, but Brent & I ate up months without getting it exact.  We
got wrap, OK, but the tail is on a line by itself... it can't pick up
the next line of text.

Printing images is another dull story.  You have choice of banding or 
non-banding.  Banding is damned slow compared to the other way & I gave 
up on it.  Eberhard *may* be talked into working with you - he had a bit
of success with this.

Rest assured that what ever you work out, it isn't going to work right
on ECERY printer!  You have to guess as some things because the printers
don't all respond to a query about their capabilities.
<G>
TomR.



At 10:48 AM 10/10/99 +0200, you wrote:
>List Member Engel Nobbe <bluez@celestial.demon.nl> wrote:
>Well, I guess he's not the only one who wonders about
>printing under Windows...
>
>I would assume I would have to initialize / setup a bitmap,
>somehow redirect all my output there, then hand it over to
>windows and print it?
>
>A simple sample would come in handy :-)
>
>
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List Member "Georg Veichtlbauer" <veichtlbauer@gmx.at> wrote:
> How about the subject with "GFA32:" as leading words as long we have no
own
> mailing-list?
I think this is a great idea!

> Uh - you're right, I don't know which devil rided me when writing that
your app
> is not correct.
Nobody knows that, Joe! :-)


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List Member "Georg Veichtlbauer" <veichtlbauer@gmx.at> wrote:
> Stop thinking - let it be done by horses, they have bigger heads ;-))

I wonder if this joke is as good as it would be in German... :)

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List Member "Malcolm Jack Howard" <machoward@bigpond.com> wrote:
>Tell'em to buy MacIntosh next time.

Like the look of the iMac myself <g>

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List Member "Malcolm Jack Howard" <machoward@bigpond.com> wrote:
>Try a different combination of color depth / resolution. I'm not entirely
sure,
>but the problem did NOT appear on recent / new videocards (at least nobody
told
>me). I think it has something to do with the driver / card combination...


One of the two guys who have reported the problem has now tried 256, 16 bit
and 24 bit settings and the program is fine with these. Only the 32 bit
colour causes problems.

The other guy is using a PC that is only 1 month old. I'm not sure of his
configuration yet but I suspect it's 32 bit.  I've informed him of the above
and asked he check out his PC similarly.

>Then again, my stuff isn't running on enough machines to do it properly
>everywhere... sorry...


I have the program using GETNEAREST code running on a few hundred PCs with a
few problems but I've modified the code to use RGBCOLOR to give me better
control - or so I thought. I'm holding back on the release of the new code
until I can solve this.

Thanks for your trouble,

Mac Howard

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The maximum Size of Windows outside of the desktop is only the
desktop-size
(like "hidden Windows"). Everthing over this size is cutted off.

I made MemDCs in GFA-BASIC 16:
  mdc1% = MEMDC(_DC(1))
  hbm1% = CreateCompatibleBitmap(_DC(1),SprBackGW& + 16,SprBackGH& + 544
+ 16)
  hbo1% = SelectObject(mdc1%,hbm1%)
The MEMDC(), CreateCompatibleBitmap() and SETDC Commands are not aviable

in GFA-BASIC 32

Does exist a solution to create large BitBlt-Compatible DCs in GFA-BASIC
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<font size=-1>The maximum Size of Windows outside of the desktop is only
the desktop-size</font>
<br><font size=-1>(like "hidden Windows"). Everthing over this size is
cutted off.</font><font size=-1></font>
<p><font size=-1>I made MemDCs in GFA-BASIC 16:</font>
<br><font size=-1>&nbsp; mdc1% = MEMDC(_DC(1))</font>
<br><font size=-1>&nbsp; hbm1% = CreateCompatibleBitmap(_DC(1),SprBackGW&amp;
+ 16,SprBackGH&amp; + 544 + 16)</font>
<br><font size=-1>&nbsp; hbo1% = SelectObject(mdc1%,hbm1%)</font>
<br><font size=-1>The MEMDC(), CreateCompatibleBitmap() and SETDC Commands
are not aviable</font>
<br><font size=-1>in GFA-BASIC 32</font><font size=-1></font>
<p><font size=-1>Does exist a solution to create large BitBlt-Compatible
DCs in GFA-BASIC 32?</font>
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' ************* Example for MemDCs with GFA-Basic 16 ************
OPENW #1,0,0,_X,480,0
INPUT "Number of Sprites (100): ",SprDAnz&
INPUT "Spritewidth (1 - 40): ",w&
sprmod| = 1
SpritesInit
CLS 0
KILLEVENT
' ************Sprite Example****************
DEFFILL 0
GRAPHMODE R2_COPYPEN,OPAQUE
RGBCOLOR $FF,$FF
PBOX 0,960,40,960 + 40
RGBCOLOR $FF00,$FF00
PBOX 40,960,80,960 + 40
RGBCOLOR $FF0000,$FF0000
PBOX 80,960,120,960 + 40
RGBCOLOR $FFFFFF,0
DEFFILL 33
PBOX 120,960,160,960 + 40
' ************Sprite-Datas******************
FOR a& = 0 TO 2
  SprDOrDC%(a&) = SprDrwDC%
  SprDOrX&(a&) = 40 * a&
  SprDOrY&(a&) = 960
  SprDOrW&(a&) = w&
  SprDOrH&(a&) = w&
  SprDAndDC%(a&) = SprDrwDC%
  SprDAndX&(a&) = 120
  SprDAndY&(a&) = 960
  SprDAndW&(a&) = w&
  SprDAndH&(a&) = w&
NEXT a&
' ****************Moving******************
DIM rx&(SprDAnz&)
DIM ry&(SprDAnz&)
sprBackG| = 1
xmax& = AuflX& - w&
ymax& = AuflY& - w&
FOR a& = 0 TO SprDAnz&
  SprDrwX&(a&) = INT(RND(0) * (xmax& - 60)) + 10
  SprDrwX&(a&) = INT(RND(0) * (ymax& - 60)) + 10
  SprDrwW&(a&) = 40
  SprDrwH&(a&) = 40
  SprDrwArt|(a&) = 1
  rx&(a&) = INT(RND(0) * 16) + 1
  ry&(a&) = INT(RND(0) * 16) + 1
  SprDrwNr&(a&) = INT(RND(0) * 3)
NEXT a&
SprDrwArt|(0) = 2
rx& = 2
GRAPHMODE R2_MERGEPEN
FOR a& = 0 TO SprBackGW&
  RGBCOLOR RGB(ROR(a&,3),0,a&)
  DRAW a& + SprBackGX&,SprBackGY& TO a& + SprBackGX&,SprBackGY& + SprBackGH&
NEXT a&
FOR a& = 0 TO AuflY& - 1
  RGBCOLOR RGB(0,a&,0)
  DRAW SprBackGX&,a& + SprBackGY& TO SprBackGX& + SprBackGW&,a& + SprBackGY&
NEXT a&
GRAPHMODE R2_COPYPEN
KILLEVENT
PEEKEVENT
DO ' *********** Main ************
  PEEKEVENT
  ADD SprBackScX&,rx&
  SprDrwW&(0) = MOUSEX
  SprDrwH&(0) = MOUSEY
  IF SprDrwW&(0) > 200 THEN SprDrwW&(0) = 200 ' no slow Animation
  IF SprDrwH&(0) > 200 THEN SprDrwH&(0) = 200
  IF SprBackScX& > SprBackScXmax& THEN
    SprBackScX& = SprBackScXmax&
    rx& = 0 - rx&
  ENDIF
  IF SprBackScX& < SprBackScXmin& THEN
    SprBackScX& = SprBackScXmin&
    rx& = 0 - rx&
  ENDIF
  FOR a& = 0 TO SprDAnz&
    ADD SprDrwX&(a&),rx&(a&)
    ADD SprDrwY&(a&),ry&(a&)
    IF (SprDrwX&(a&) < 0) OR (SprDrwX&(a&) > xmax&) THEN
      rx&(a&) = 0 - rx&(a&)
    ENDIF
    IF (SprDrwY&(a&) < 0) OR (SprDrwY&(a&) > ymax&) THEN
      ry&(a&) = 0 - ry&(a&)
    ENDIF
  NEXT a&
  RedrawSprites
  EXIT IF MOUSEK
LOOP
DO
  PEEKEVENT
  EXIT IF MOUSEK = 0
LOOP
SETDC _DC(1)
~SelectObject(mdc1%,hbo1%)
FREEBMP hbm1%
FREEDC mdc1%
CLOSEW #1
END
PROCEDURE SpritesInit
  ' Backbuffer
  SprAnzMax& = 1024
  AuflX& = _X
  AuflY& = 480
  SprBackGW& = AuflX& * 2
  SprBackGH& = AuflY&
  ' vvvvvvv does not exist in GFA-BASIC 32 vvvvvvvv
  mdc1% = MEMDC(_DC(1))
  hbm1% = CreateCompatibleBitmap(_DC(1),SprBackGW& + 16,SprBackGH& + 544 + 16)
  ' ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  hbo1% = SelectObject(mdc1%,hbm1%)
  IF sprmod| = 1 THEN
    SETDC mdc1%
    DEFFILL 0
    RGBCOLOR 0,0
    GRAPHMODE R2_COPYPEN
    PBOX 0,0,SprBackGW&,SprBackGH& + 544
  ENDIF
  ' ************* Sprite Tab ***************
  DIM Spr$(SprAnzMax&)
  DIM SprBmpOR$(SprAnzMax&)
  DIM SprArt|(SprAnzMax&)
  DIM SprOrDC%(SprAnzMax&)
  DIM SprOrX&(SprAnzMax&)
  DIM SprOrY&(SprAnzMax&)
  DIM SprOrW&(SprAnzMax&)
  DIM SprOrH&(SprAnzMax&)
  DIM SprBmpAND$(SprAnzMax&)
  DIM SprAndDC%(SprAnzMax&)
  DIM SprAndX&(SprAnzMax&)
  DIM SprAndY&(SprAnzMax&)
  DIM SprAndW&(SprAnzMax&)
  DIM SprAndH&(SprAnzMax&)
  ' ************ Draw Tab *************
  DIM SprD$(SprAnzMax&)
  DIM SprDBmpOR$(SprAnzMax&)
  DIM SprDArt|(SprAnzMax&)
  DIM SprDOrDC%(SprAnzMax&)
  DIM SprDOrX&(SprAnzMax&)
  DIM SprDOrY&(SprAnzMax&)
  DIM SprDOrW&(SprAnzMax&)
  DIM SprDOrH&(SprAnzMax&)
  DIM SprDBmpAND$(SprAnzMax&)
  DIM SprDAndDC%(SprAnzMax&)
  DIM SprDAndX&(SprAnzMax&)
  DIM SprDAndY&(SprAnzMax&)
  DIM SprDAndW&(SprAnzMax&)
  DIM SprDAndH&(SprAnzMax&)
  ' ******** Sort Buffer *********
  DIM SprZ$(SprAnzMax&)
  DIM SprZBmpOR$(SprAnzMax&)
  DIM SprZArt|(SprAnzMax&)
  DIM SprZOrDC%(SprAnzMax&)
  DIM SprZOrX&(SprAnzMax&)
  DIM SprZOrY&(SprAnzMax&)
  DIM SprZOrW&(SprAnzMax&)
  DIM SprZOrH&(SprAnzMax&)
  DIM SprZBmpAND$(SprAnzMax&)
  DIM SprZAndDC%(SprAnzMax&)
  DIM SprZAndX&(SprAnzMax&)
  DIM SprZAndY&(SprAnzMax&)
  DIM SprZAndW&(SprAnzMax&)
  DIM SprZAndH&(SprAnzMax&)
  ' ************** Source Bitmaps ******************
  DIM SprQBmp$(SprQBmpAnzMax&)
  DIM sprqbmp%(SprQBmpAnzMax&)
  ' ************** Visible DC **********************
  ScrDC% = _DC(1)
  ScrX& = 0
  Scry& = 0
  ScrW& = AuflX&
  ScrH& = AuflY&
  ' *************** Background ********************
  sprbackgdc% = ScrDC%
  SprBackGX& = 0
  SprBackGY& = AuflY&
  SprBackGSW& = SprBackGW&
  SprBackGSH& = SprBackGH&
  IF SprBackGSW& > ScrW& THEN
    SprBackGSW& = ScrW&
  ENDIF
  IF SprBackGSH& > ScrH& THEN
    SprBackGSH& = ScrH&
  ENDIF
  SprBackScXmin& = 0
  SprBackScYmin& = 0
  SprBackScXmax& = SprBackGW& - ScrW&
  SprBackScYmax& = SprBackGH& - ScrH&
  SprBackScX& = 0
  SprBackScY& = 0
  SprDrwDC% = ScrDC%
  SprDrwX& = AuflX&
  SprDrwY& = 0
  SprDrwW& = AuflX&
  SprDrwH& = AuflY&
  SprdrwX2& = SprDrwX& + SprDrwW& - 1
  SprDrwY2& = SprDrwY& + SprDrwH& - 1
  DIM SprDrwX&(SprAnzMax&) '   Sprite Number
  DIM SprDrwY&(SprAnzMax&)
  DIM SprDrwW&(SprAnzMax&)
  DIM SprDrwH&(SprAnzMax&)
  DIM SprDrwNr&(SprAnzMax&) '  Sprite Number
  DIM SprDrwArt|(SprAnzMax&) ' Sprite Typ
  sprbackgdc% = mdc1%
  SprDrwDC% = mdc1%
RETURN
PROCEDURE RedrawSprites
  SETDC SprDrwDC%
  CLIP SprDrwX&,SprDrwY&,SprDrwW&,SprDrwH&
  IF sprBackG| THEN
    SprBackGX2& = ADD(SprBackGX&,SprBackScX&)
    SprBackGY2& = ADD(SprBackGY&,SprBackScY&)
    BITBLT sprbackgdc%,SprBackGX2&,SprBackGY2&,SprBackGSW&,SprBackGSH&,SprDrwDC%,SprDrwX&,SprDrwY&,$00CC0020
  ELSE
    RGBCOLOR 0,0
    PBOX SprDrwX&,SprDrwY&,SprdrwX2&,SprDrwY2&
  ENDIF
  FOR SprA& = 0 TO SprDAnz&
    SprNr& = SprDrwNr&(SprA&)
    SprX& = ADD(SprDrwX&,SprDrwX&(SprA&))
    SprY& = ADD(SprDrwY&,SprDrwY&(SprA&))
    SELECT SprDrwArt|(SprA&)
    CASE 0
      BITBLT SprDOrDC%(SprNr&),SprDOrX&(SprNr&),SprDOrY&(SprNr&),SprDOrW&(SprNr&),SprDOrH&(SprNr&),SprDrwDC%,SprX&,SprY&,$00CC0020
    CASE 1
      BITBLT SprDAndDC%(SprNr&),SprDAndX&(SprNr&),SprDAndY&(SprNr&),SprDAndW&(SprNr&),SprDAndH&(SprNr&),SprDrwDC%,SprX&,SprY&,$008800C6
      BITBLT SprDOrDC%(SprNr&),SprDOrX&(SprNr&),SprDOrY&(SprNr&),SprDOrW&(SprNr&),SprDOrH&(SprNr&),SprDrwDC%,SprX&,SprY&,$00EE0086
    CASE 2
      sprw& = SprDrwW&(SprA&)
      sprh& = SprDrwH&(SprA&)
      ~StretchBlt(SprDrwDC%,SprX&,SprY&,sprw&,sprh&,SprDAndDC%(SprNr&),SprDAndX&(SprNr&),SprDAndY&(SprNr&),SprDAndW&(SprNr&),SprDAndH&(SprNr&),$008800C6)
      ~StretchBlt(SprDrwDC%,SprX&,SprY&,sprw&,sprh&,SprDOrDC%(SprNr&),SprDOrX&(SprNr&),SprDOrY&(SprNr&),SprDOrW&(SprNr&),SprDOrH&(SprNr&),$00EE0086)
    ENDSELECT
  NEXT SprA&
  CLIP OFF
  BITBLT SprDrwDC%,SprDrwX&,SprDrwY&,SprDrwW&,SprDrwH&,ScrDC%,ScrX&,Scry&,$00CC0020
RETURN

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
At 12:36 PM 10/10/99 +0200, you wrote:
>List Member "Georg Veichtlbauer" <veichtlbauer@gmx.at> wrote:
>> Stop thinking - let it be done by horses, they have bigger heads ;-))
>
>I wonder if this joke is as good as it would be in German... :)
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Would depend on which end you really mean <G> !!!!!
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
I suspect you're gonna find a LOT of trouble writing for the older PCs if
you start using 32-bit color!  I have a ton of extremely good image editors
that balk at 16-bit color!  Few will handle compressed images, either.  I
am right now back into the fray on compression to hold the file sizes doen.
I'm working w/ animation in *.bmp since GFA-W(16) can't be made to handle
*.gif animations & Unisys is going after users of any kind now.  I can
extract the images from them & re-assemble as a *.bmp animation.

One major problem w/ 32-bit color is that everything tries to save at the
adaptor's colordepth setting, particularly w/ GFA-W(16).  Eberhard seems
to be the only one w/ a reasonable conversion between color depths.  All
I've ever been able to find bombs 8-bit saves by converting gray to gold.
I've spent the last 12 hrs or so trying to make a change in that - very
unsuccessfully!  I can turn white to black, but can't push gold down to
gray.

So.... I'm going back into Eberhard's routines to see if I can adapt.
<G>
TomR.



At 07:59 PM 10/10/99 +0800, you wrote:
>List Member "Malcolm Jack Howard" <machoward@bigpond.com> wrote:
>>Try a different combination of color depth / resolution. I'm not entirely
>sure,
>>but the problem did NOT appear on recent / new videocards (at least nobody
>told
>>me). I think it has something to do with the driver / card combination...
>
>
>One of the two guys who have reported the problem has now tried 256, 16 bit
>and 24 bit settings and the program is fine with these. Only the 32 bit
>colour causes problems.
>
>The other guy is using a PC that is only 1 month old. I'm not sure of his
>configuration yet but I suspect it's 32 bit.  I've informed him of the above
>and asked he check out his PC similarly.
>
>>Then again, my stuff isn't running on enough machines to do it properly
>>everywhere... sorry...
>
>
>I have the program using GETNEAREST code running on a few hundred PCs with a
>few problems but I've modified the code to use RGBCOLOR to give me better
>control - or so I thought. I'm holding back on the release of the new code
>until I can solve this.
>
>Thanks for your trouble,
>
>Mac Howard
>
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
At 07:52 PM 10/10/99 +0800, you wrote:
>List Member "Malcolm Jack Howard" <machoward@bigpond.com> wrote:
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List Member Engel Nobbe <bluez@celestial.demon.nl> wrote:
Would you mind stop SHOUTING and switch over to lowercase? Makes messages more readable :-)


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List Member Engel Nobbe <bluez@celestial.demon.nl> wrote:
> Printing images is another dull story.  You have choice of banding or
> non-banding.  Banding is damned slow compared to the other way & I gave
> up on it.  Eberhard *may* be talked into working with you - he had a bit
> of success with this.

Here's another totally stupid idea... I haven't tried this, and I'm not an
expert, just started to mess around a bit :-)

Would this work?

1. create a bitmap of a certain size
2. let GFA output to the bitmap (i.e. a memdc, if I am not mistaken?) I'm not
sure if this is possible
3. copy the bitmap to the DC for the printer (stretch / bitblit it?)
4. print

I have no idea how to code this, but would this work? This way, output would
look the same on any printer, as the original drawing in memory would be
identical on any machine. The amount of detail actually printed would depend
on the resolution of the printer, and how the stretch handles the scale
difference... (I would suggest making the bitmap in memory 1 bit deep, and
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List Member Engel Nobbe <bluez@celestial.demon.nl> wrote:
As we're talking about trying to output something, does anybody have a program that acts as if it's a printer, but actually displays its stuff in a window on screen? Would come in handy when debugging....


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List Member Engel Nobbe <bluez@celestial.demon.nl> wrote:
Come to think of it... wouldn't viewport or something similar do the same?

Indeed, printers / drivers that do not report their resolution will cause
troubles...

Engel Nobbe wrote:

> List Member Engel Nobbe <bluez@celestial.demon.nl> wrote:
> > Printing images is another dull story.  You have choice of banding or
> > non-banding.  Banding is damned slow compared to the other way & I gave
> > up on it.  Eberhard *may* be talked into working with you - he had a bit
> > of success with this.
>
> Here's another totally stupid idea... I haven't tried this, and I'm not an
> expert, just started to mess around a bit :-)
>
> Would this work?
>
> 1. create a bitmap of a certain size
> 2. let GFA output to the bitmap (i.e. a memdc, if I am not mistaken?) I'm not
> sure if this is possible
> 3. copy the bitmap to the DC for the printer (stretch / bitblit it?)
> 4. print
>
> I have no idea how to code this, but would this work? This way, output would
> look the same on any printer, as the original drawing in memory would be
> identical on any machine. The amount of detail actually printed would depend
> on the resolution of the printer, and how the stretch handles the scale
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List Member Anthony Watson <awatson@pacifier.com> wrote:
> Would this work?
> 3. copy the bitmap to the DC for the printer (stretch / bitblit it?)

It can be done, and it would work. But, the results would probably not be
very desirable. Instead of nice smooth text, you would end up with chunky
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Roy
You are playing in Windows, now... turn off CapsLock - it isn't polite to
shout everything all of the time.

Stupid question or two...
Can the printers all handle the DPI settings you want?
Do all the printers you want to use have drivers installed?
Are you using the "default" printer in each case?
Can you access printers that are not listed as "active"
Despite all wishes, I can have only one printer at a time on
my parallel port & I don't have 5 or 6 I/O cards in here.
<G>
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List Member Engel Nobbe <bluez@celestial.demon.nl> wrote:
Hmmm... I guess it is wishfull thinking then :-)

Here's the scope: I'm working on several routines that will help me handle a
mix of 2d and 3d objects. In a way, it's a mix of a cad and draw package.
What I want to do is...

1. create a host of different objects (i.e. shapes) with lines, bitmaps, and
other stuff...
2. be able to zoom in and out on those objects, keeping all in a related
scale (i.e. I have to resize the bitmaps)
3. be able to mix 'n' match the different types of data (i.e. a bitmap does
not necessarily have an identical x- and y-scale)
4. be able to output it
5. be able to read in jpg's instead of bmp's

That's all :-)

I'm slowly getting there, but it takes considerable effort. If I can't use
windows to keep track of things for me, that would mean that I have to write
seperate routines, to do the following...

1. select an output device
2. draw all the items I want to draw
3. work out routines that handle text and lines in the appropriate scale
4. work out routines that handle bitmaps and resize those if necessary
5. work out something that imports jpegs...

Fun! I would have expected in all those megabytes of windows 95 code that
MicroSoft would at least have solved some stuff for me...

Oh well, back to the saltmines...

Anthony Watson wrote:

> List Member Anthony Watson <awatson@pacifier.com> wrote:
> > Would this work?
> > 3. copy the bitmap to the DC for the printer (stretch / bitblit it?)
>
> It can be done, and it would work. But, the results would probably not be
> very desirable. Instead of nice smooth text, you would end up with chunky
> text (assuming the bitmap was scaled up in size).
>
> Anthony
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Subject: Re: [gfabasic] Fw: PRINTING TO PRINTER
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
BELOW..........

At 08:12 PM 10/10/99 +0200, you wrote:
>List Member Engel Nobbe <bluez@celestial.demon.nl> wrote:
>> Printing images is another dull story.  You have choice of banding or
>> non-banding.  Banding is damned slow compared to the other way & I gave
>> up on it.  Eberhard *may* be talked into working with you - he had a bit
>> of success with this.
>
>Here's another totally stupid idea... I haven't tried this, and I'm not an
>expert, just started to mess around a bit :-)
>
>Would this work?
>
>1. create a bitmap of a certain size
>2. let GFA output to the bitmap (i.e. a memdc, if I am not mistaken?) I'm not
>sure if this is possible
>3. copy the bitmap to the DC for the printer (stretch / bitblit it?)
>4. print
>
>I have no idea how to code this, but would this work? This way, output would
>look the same on any printer, as the original drawing in memory would be
>identical on any machine. The amount of detail actually printed would depend
>on the resolution of the printer, and how the stretch handles the scale
>difference... (I would suggest making the bitmap in memory 1 bit deep, and
>taking the largest resolution that your program could expect to have
>available, lets say 800 x 800 dpi? 1600 x 1600 dpi?)
>

' Demo by Tom Record
' getting the printer resolution
TITLEW #1, " TomR.'s Get Printer Resolution & Page Dimensions"
OPENW #1, 150,100,360,275,48
'
? "                         <any key> closes me"
?
'
dc& = PrinterDC()

@getres

'
? "  Printer resolution: 'dc& = PrinterDC()'"
? "  x dpi: ";hort%;"  GetDeviceCaps(dc&,LOGPIXELSX)"
? "  y dpi: ";vert%;"  GetDeviceCaps(dc&,LOGPIXELSY)"
?
? "  Printed page dimensions:"
? "  _X total: ";hort1%;"  GetDeviceCaps(dc&,HORTRES)"

? "  _Y total: ";vert1%;"  GetDeviceCaps(dc&,VERTRES)"
?
? "  To print, you must 'SETDC dc&', then 'SETDC _DC()'"
? "             after you've finished w/ the printer."
? "     Be sure you free the memory w/ 'FREEDC dc&'."
'
KEYGET k%
FREEDC dc&
CLOSEW #1
END


PROCEDURE getres
  hort% = GetDeviceCaps(dc&,LOGPIXELSX)
  vert% = GetDeviceCaps(dc&,LOGPIXELSY)
  hort1% = GetDeviceCaps(dc&,HORTRES)
  vert1% = GetDeviceCaps(dc&,VERTRES)
RETURN

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>5. be able to read in jpg's instead of bmp's

I'll feed you the "C" files necessary if you'll give me the
GFA-W(16) source.  My collection goes thru v6, but does NOT
cover "progressive".  That is the one that first gives you
a 1-bit representation, then unwinds the image itself.

I have VC1, but have NEVER been successful at compiling to get
the *.obj file.  GFA-W(16) will "include" that & give you the
capability of doing a lot with *.jpg.

<G>
TomR.

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Roy, you are forgiven. I think most of us have a tendency to do upper =
case when we first start sending email. Just keep the interesting =
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Dale Bryant
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  Open letter to everyone:
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  As far as the printing problem i am having, i am interested in =
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
OPENW #1,100,100,100,100,0  //ein sehr kleines Fenster - a very small window
? "This is a test"
@MakeStructs()
''''''''''''''''''''' from here to... ''''''''''''''
'w& = GetDesktopWindow()
w&=LOADBMP(whatsis.bmp)
d& = GetDC(w&)
dco& = _DC()
SETDC d&
' here I've used the *.bmp dimensions & handle, but still get desktop!
GET 0,0,199,199,bmp&   // das Bild holen - to get the picture
~ReleaseDC(w&,d&)
SETDC dco&
'''''''''''''''''' here!  Something is wrong if I
'''''''''''''''''' substitute the image's handle.
'''''''''''''''''' I want to load the image & re-save it
'''''''''''''''''' in as many of the following that I can.
'''''''''''''''''' I'm working on compressing a *.bmp.
MKDIR "tish"
windir$ = "tish\"
@savebmp(windir$ + "mm00.bmp",BI_RGB,bmp&)
@savebmp(windir$ + "mm01.bmp",BI_RLE4,bmp&)
@savebmp(windir$ + "mm02.bmp",BI_RLE8,bmp&)
@savebmp(windir$ + "mm03.bmp",$800 | BI_RLE8,bmp&)
@savebmp(windir$ + "mm04.bmp",$800 | BI_RLE4,bmp&)
@savebmp(windir$ + "mm05.bmp",$400 | BI_RLE4,bmp&)
@savebmp(windir$ + "mm06.bmp",$100 | BI_RGB,bmp&)
@savebmp(windir$ + "mm07.bmp",$1800 | BI_RGB,bmp&)
@savebmp(windir$ + "mm08.bmp",$1000 | BI_RGB,bmp&)
@savebmp(windir$ + "mm09.bmp",$0f00 | BI_RGB,bmp&)
@savebmp(windir$ + "mm10.bmp",BI_RLE8,bmp&)
@savebmp(windir$ + "mm11.bmp",4 * 256 | BI_RG,bmp&)
FREEBMP bmp&
PROCEDURE savebmp(f$,fmt&,bmp&)
  TRY
    LOCAL a$,pinfo%,buf%,width&,height&,plane&,bitpp&
    errcode& = 0
    a$ = SPACE$(20)
    ~GetObject(bmp&,10,V:a$)
    width& = WORD{V:a$ + 2},height& = WORD{V:a$ + 4}
    plane& = BYTE{V:a$ + 8},bitpp&  = BYTE{V:a$ + 9}
    bitpp& *= plane&
    IF HIBYTE(fmt&)
      bitpp& = HIBYTE(fmt&)
      fmt& &= 255
    ENDIF
    IF bitpp& <= 8
      pinfo% = MALLOC(40 + (4 << bitpp&))
    ELSE
      pinfo% = MALLOC(40)
    ENDIF
    IF pinfo%
      MEMBFILL pinfo%,40,0
      LONG{pinfo%}    = 40
      LONG{pinfo% + 4 } = width&
      LONG{pinfo% + 8 } = height&
      WORD{pinfo% + 12} = 1
      WORD{pinfo% + 14} = bitpp&
      LONG{pinfo% + 16} = fmt&
      a% = GetDIBits(_DC(),bmp&,0,height&,0,pinfo%,DIB_RGB_COLORS)
      colu% = {pinfo% + 36}
      coli% = {pinfo% + 32}
      IF colu% = 0 && bitpp& <= 8
        {pinfo% + 36} = 2 << bitpp& /* ***** was 1
        colu% = {pinfo% + 36}
      ENDIF
      IF a%                   //no error
        qq% = {pinfo% + 20}
        buf% = MALLOC(qq%)
        IF buf%
          a% = GetDIBits(_DC(),bmp&,0,height&,buf%,pinfo%,DIB_RGB_COLORS)
          /*
b%=SetDIBitsToDevice(dc&,dx&,dy&,width&,height&,0,0,0,height&,buf%,pinfo%,DI
B_RGB_COLORS)
          OPEN "o",#1,f$
          off% = 14 + 40
          IF bitpp& <= 8
            off% += (4 << bitpp&)
          ENDIF
          sz% = off% + {pinfo% + 20}
          PRINT #1,"BM";MKL$(sz%) + MKI$(0,0) + MKL$(off%);
          IF bitpp& <= 8
            BPUT #1,pinfo%,40 + (4 << bitpp&)
          ELSE
            BPUT #1,pinfo%,40
          ENDIF
          l% = {pinfo% + 20}
          WHILE l% >= 65536
            BPUT #1,buf%,32768
            BPUT #1,buf% + 32768,32768
            buf% += 8 * 65536
            l% -= 65536
          LOOP
          IF l% THEN BPUT #1,buf%,l%
          CLOSE #1
          ~MFREE(buf%)
        ELSE
          errcode& = 1
        ENDIF
      ELSE
        errcode& = 2
      ENDIF
      ~MFREE(pinfo%)
    ELSE
      errcode& = 1
    ENDIF
  CATCH
RETURN


'IF bmih.biCompression = 0 THEN comp$ = "RGB"
'IF bmih.biCompression = 1 THEN comp$ = "RLE8"
'IF bmih.biCompression = 2 THEN comp$ = "RLE4"

PROCEDURE MakeStructs()

  TYPE BITMAPFILEHEADER: // 14 bytes
  - WORD bfType
  - LONG bfSize
  - WORD bfReserved1
  - WORD bfReserved2
  - LONG bfOffBits
  ENDTYPE
  BITMAPFILEHEADER: bmfh.

  TYPE BITMAPINFOHEADER: //40 bytes
  - LONG biSize
  - LONG biWidth
  - LONG biHeight
  - WORD biPlanes
  - WORD biBitCount
  - LONG biCompression
  - LONG biSizeImage
  - LONG biXPelsPerMeter
  - LONG biYPelsPerMeter
  - LONG biClrUsed
  - LONG biClrImportant
  ENDTYPE
  BITMAPINFOHEADER: bmih.

  TYPE BITMAPCOREHEADER: //12 bytes
  - LONG bcSize
  - WORD bcWidth
  - WORD bcHeight
  - WORD bcPlanes
  - WORD bcBitCount
  ENDTYPE
  BITMAPCOREHEADER: bmch.
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List Member "h.schippritt" <Achime@gmx.net> wrote:
Who has any experience in network-programming in GFA-Basic.
( Simply sending a message to a specified programm via network )

thanks in advance ...


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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Apology accepted - welcome to the group!
Now... do you wish to print w/ resident fonts or do you want to
set up printer fonts?  I can send you several samples to play with.
One is very similar to GFA-W(16)'s print feature.
<G>
TomR.

At 03:52 PM 11/10/99 -0000, you wrote:
>Open letter to everyone:
> This is to apologize for unintentionally being rude by sending my former
request in bold uppercase print.
> The last couple of days is the first time i have ever sent any email to
anyone and i was not aware that this was being rude. It will not happen again.
>
>As far as the printing problem i am having, i am interested in printing
text only.
>
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List Member Engel Nobbe <bluez@celestial.demon.nl> wrote:
I found a DLL on the GFA FTP site, that is supposed to read in a lot of
different formats, haven't tried it thus far, but looked promising, the
NVIEWLIB. Ever tried it?

Tom Record wrote:

> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> >5. be able to read in jpg's instead of bmp's
>
> I'll feed you the "C" files necessary if you'll give me the
> GFA-W(16) source.  My collection goes thru v6, but does NOT
> cover "progressive".  That is the one that first gives you
> a 1-bit representation, then unwinds the image itself.
>
> I have VC1, but have NEVER been successful at compiling to get
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List Member Engel Nobbe <bluez@celestial.demon.nl> wrote:
Uh... I just tried the DLL of the NVIEWLIB I had... bugger... it indeed
doesn't do all the different formats, although it does quite a few... I've
found some problems with files created by PhotoShop that a browser can handle,
but several drawing packages cannot. Is this the 'progressive format' you're
refering to? If not, send me a sample JPG to my email address
mailto:bluez@celestial.demon.nl , and I see what I can do with it...

Tom Record wrote:

> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> >5. be able to read in jpg's instead of bmp's
>
> I'll feed you the "C" files necessary if you'll give me the
> GFA-W(16) source.  My collection goes thru v6, but does NOT
> cover "progressive".  That is the one that first gives you
> a 1-bit representation, then unwinds the image itself.
>
> I have VC1, but have NEVER been successful at compiling to get
> the *.obj file.  GFA-W(16) will "include" that & give you the
> capability of doing a lot with *.jpg.
>
> <G>
> TomR.
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List Member John Findlay <Jayef@compuserve.com> wrote:

Tom,

w& =3D LOADBMP(whatsis.bmp)
d& =3D GetDC(w&)

The code above is trying to get the DC of a bitmap so it's not a valid DC=
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List Member Micromiser Software <miser@cde.com> wrote:
Hi Engel,

I tried NVIEWL16.DLL with very knowledgeable help from Tom Record. I found
it to decode nearly all JPGs I found on the Internet except the really
corrupted ones. It's a little slow compared to WECJLIB (which misses a lot
of them). But the only real problem I had with it was that I couldn't
prevent the error popup from coming up when decoding a corrupted file. That
made preloading unworkable, a feature I require. I've found no solution to
loading all formats and avoiding an error popup, though I haven't tried
Imag'n ($200). Their free trial precluded a valid test.

Now that I have Delphi, I find there are JPG decoders available for that. At
some point I will try them and hope to create a 32-bit DLL that serves all
formats without an error popup.

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At 09:33 AM 10/11/99 +0200, you wrote:
>List Member Engel Nobbe <bluez@celestial.demon.nl> wrote:
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>doesn't do all the different formats, although it does quite a few... I've
>found some problems with files created by PhotoShop that a browser can handle,
>but several drawing packages cannot. Is this the 'progressive format' you're
>refering to? If not, send me a sample JPG to my email address
>mailto:bluez@celestial.demon.nl , and I see what I can do with it...
>
>Tom Record wrote:
>
>> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> >5. be able to read in jpg's instead of bmp's
>>
>> I'll feed you the "C" files necessary if you'll give me the
>> GFA-W(16) source.  My collection goes thru v6, but does NOT
>> cover "progressive".  That is the one that first gives you
>> a 1-bit representation, then unwinds the image itself.
>>
>> I have VC1, but have NEVER been successful at compiling to get
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>>
>> <G>
>> TomR.
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REGARDING MESSAGE I SENT TO DALE BRYANT.
HOW CAN I PRINT TO ANY PRINTER SET AT ANY RESOLUTION AND GET THE SAME =
SIZE PRINT AND SAME SIZE SPACING USING DIFFERENT FONT SIZES WITHOUT =
CHANGING THE DEFAULT PRINTER AND WITHOUT CHANGING THE PRINTER RESOLUTION =
AND WITHOUT USING THE PRINTER SETUP DIALOG.

INSTEAD OF SAYING ANY PRINTER, I SHOULD HAVE SAID ANY PRINTER THAT I CAN =
QUERY AND GET RESPONSES FROM CONCERING THE PRINTERS CAPABILITIES TO =
PERFORM THIS TASK.

I AM VERY FAR FROM BEING AN EXPERT PROGRAMMER. I STARTED USING GFABASIC =
ON THE ATARI COMPUTERS, AND WHEN I SWITCHED TO I.B.M. COMP. COMPUTERS =
AND WINDOWS AND PURCHASED GFABASIC FOR WINDOWSI DID NOT RECIEVE ANY =
MANUELS SO I HAD TO LEARN EVERYTHING WITH THE HELP OF THE HELP FILES =
THAT WERE INSTALLED WITH GFA. I AM ABLE TO WRITE PROGRAMS THAT WILL DO =
ANYTHING I WANT THEM TO DO (NOT EVERYTHING THAT CAN BE DONE), EXCEPT FOR =
THE ABOVE PROBLEM WHEN I SWITCH TO A DIFFERENT PRINTER.

I AM CURRENTLY USING A H.P. LASERJET 4050 AND A H.P. 5P PRINTER USE =
EITHIER THE 5P OR 6PCL DRIVER WITHOUT CHANGING ANYTHING, BUT WHEN I USE =
ANOTHER PRINTER, IT DONT WORK!!.

ENCLOSE IS THE SKELETON CODE OF ONE OF THE PROGRAMS I AM USING. IF YOU =
CAN BE OF ANY HELP I WOULD BE VERY GRATEFULL, AND IF THERE IS ANY =
CHARGE, LET BE KNOW HOW MUCH AND WHERE TO SEND IT AND I WILL SEND IT TO =
YOU A.S.A.P.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH
ROY BURGESS
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DC&=3DPRINTERDC()
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STARTDOC "TEST"
IF L&=3D300 THEN         //  IF PRINTER IS SET @ 300 D.P.I.
A1&=3D500                    // A1& THRU A11& ARE TAB SETTINGS
A2&=3D1000
A3&=3D1500
A5&=3D200
A6&=3D725
A7&=3D875
A8&=3D1025
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A10&=3D1900
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SIZEW=3D2                  // SET DIFFERENT WIDTH SIZES HERE
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LIN2=3D45                  // SECOND VAR FOR LINE SPACING HERE =
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SETFONT FNT_B&
I%=3DI%+1           // FOR SINGLE SPACE
I%=3DI%+1           // FOR DOUBLE SPACE
FOR J%=3D1 TO 20         // 20 LINES OF PRINT
I%=3DI%+1                     // SINGLE SPACE
I%=3DI%+1                     // DOUBLE SPACE
A$=3D"XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX"
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PRINTED
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TEXT 0,I%*LIN1-LIN2,A$
NEXT J%
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SET AT ANY=20
RESOLUTION AND GET THE SAME SIZE PRINT AND SAME SIZE SPACING USING =
DIFFERENT=20
FONT SIZES<U> WITHOUT CHANGING THE DEFAULT PRINTER AND WITHOUT CHANGING =
THE=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG>INSTEAD OF SAYING ANY PRINTER, =
I SHOULD=20
HAVE SAID <U>ANY PRINTER THAT I CAN QUERY AND GET RESPONSES FROM =
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ANYTHING, BUT WHEN I USE ANOTHER PRINTER, <U>IT DONT=20
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<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV align=3Dcenter><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG>THANK YOU VERY=20
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<DIV align=3Dcenter><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG>ROY=20
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<DIV align=3Dcenter><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG>E MAIL =
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<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2><STRONG>DC&amp;=3DPRINTERDC()</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG>SETDC=20
DC&amp;</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2><STRONG>L&amp;=3DGETDEVCAPS(LOGPIXELSX)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
// PLUS ANY MORE INFO AS NEEDED</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG>STARTDOC=20
"TEST"</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG>IF L&amp;=3D300=20
THEN&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; //&nbsp; IF PRINTER =
IS SET=20
@ 300 D.P.I.</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2><STRONG>A1&amp;=3D500&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
// A1&amp; THRU A11&amp; ARE TAB SETTINGS</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2><STRONG>A2&amp;=3D1000</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2><STRONG>A3&amp;=3D1500</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2><STRONG>A5&amp;=3D200</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2><STRONG>A6&amp;=3D725</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2><STRONG>A7&amp;=3D875</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2><STRONG>A8&amp;=3D1025</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2><STRONG>A9&amp;=3D1300</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2><STRONG>A10&amp;=3D1900</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><STRONG><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>A11&amp;=3D2150</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2><STRONG>SIZEH=3D5&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
// SET DIFFERENT HEIGHT SIZES HERE</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2><STRONG>SIZEW=3D2&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
// SET DIFFERENT WIDTH SIZES HERE</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2><STRONG>LIN1=3D50&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
// FIRST VAR FOR LINE SPACING HERE (I%*50-45) ETC</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2><STRONG>LIN2=3D45&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;//=20
SECOND VAR FOR LINE SPACING HERE (I%*50-45) ETC</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2><STRONG>ENDIF</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG>// FOR 600 D.P.I. =
DOUBLE THE 300=20
D.P.I. SETTINGS</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG>// FOR 1200 D.P.I. =
DOUBLE THE=20
600 D.P.I. SETTINGS</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2><STRONG>ORG=3DOEM_FIXED_FONT</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2><STRONG>ORG&amp;=3DSYSTEM_FONT</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG>SETFONT=20
ORG&amp;</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG>GETFONT=20
ORG&amp;</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG>RFONT NAME=20
P%</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG>FONT FAMILY 0, =
QUALITY=20
0</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG>FONT =
"MODERN",PITCH=20
FIXED_PITCH,HEIGHT 9,WIDTH 8</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG>FONT ORIENTATION =
0,ESCAPEMENT=20
0,ITALIC 0,UNDERLINE O</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG>RFONT HEIGHT =
H&amp;,WIDTH=20
W&amp;,PITCH PITCH&amp;</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG>FONT HEIGHT =
H&amp;*SIZEH,WIDTH=20
W&amp;*SIZEW,UNDERLINE 1 TO FNT_B&amp;</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG>SETFONT=20
FNT_B&amp;</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2><STRONG>I%=3DI%+1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
// FOR SINGLE SPACE</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2><STRONG>I%=3DI%+1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
// FOR DOUBLE SPACE</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG>FOR J%=3D1 TO=20
20&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; // 20 LINES OF=20
PRINT</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2><STRONG>I%=3DI%+1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
=20
// SINGLE SPACE</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2><STRONG>I%=3DI%+1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
=20
// DOUBLE SPACE</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2><STRONG>A$=3D"XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX"</=
STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2><STRONG>//&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
I USE TABBED TEXT FOR EACH LINE TO BE PRINTED</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2><STRONG>//&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
EXAMPLE:&nbsp;&nbsp; TEXT A1,I%*LIN1-LIN2,A$</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG>TEXT=20
0,I%*LIN1-LIN2,A$</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG>NEXT =
J%</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2><STRONG>I%=3DI%+2</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG>TEXT =
0,I%*LIN1-LIN2,"CHARS PER=20
LINE=3D"+STR$(LEN(A$))+" @"+STR$(L&amp;)+" D.P.I."</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2><STRONG>NEWFRAME</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2><STRONG>ENDDOC</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG>FREEFONT=20
FNT_B&amp;</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2><STRONG>SETDC_DC1</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG>FREEDC=20
DC&amp;</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG>// END OR CHAIN =
NEXT PROGRAM TO=20
RUN</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft>&nbsp;</DIV></BODY></HTML>

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Nuts!  I introduced nviewlib.dll to GFA-W(16) long ago.  I thot youi
wanted to write the routine in GFA_W(16) so you wouldn't have to 
carry any *.dll around.

Patrik Batig translated the calls for that one for me 2 years ago.
It's pretty good, just be aware that to use *.gif means you will be
liable for charges & lawsuits by Unisys.

I've tried & tried to get the author to add multi-colordepth *.bmp
save to it but he doesn't seem interested in updating in any manner.

<G>
TomR.


At 09:25 AM 11/10/99 +0200, you wrote:
>List Member Engel Nobbe <bluez@celestial.demon.nl> wrote:
>I found a DLL on the GFA FTP site, that is supposed to read in a lot of
>different formats, haven't tried it thus far, but looked promising, the
>NVIEWLIB. Ever tried it?
>
>Tom Record wrote:
>
>> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> >5. be able to read in jpg's instead of bmp's
>>
>> I'll feed you the "C" files necessary if you'll give me the
>> GFA-W(16) source.  My collection goes thru v6, but does NOT
>> cover "progressive".  That is the one that first gives you
>> a 1-bit representation, then unwinds the image itself.
>>
>> I have VC1, but have NEVER been successful at compiling to get
>> the *.obj file.  GFA-W(16) will "include" that & give you the
>> capability of doing a lot with *.jpg.
>>
>> <G>
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Engle
Nviewlib.dll is a freebie - it isn't gonna handle 349 formats <G>.  It
reads 6 or 7 (or so) & writes *.jpg.  It *will* read any format listed
in it's helpfile.  Caution tho... *.gif...Unisys wants $$$$$$$$$$$ from
even the casual user now & too, if you try to load an animation with it,
_IF_ you get *anything&, it will be only the first image in it.

_IF_ it attempts to load a "progressive" *.jpg, it gets *ONLY* the first, 
or preview, image.  This one is basically 1-bit, 2-color lineart.

I don't know of having any "progressive" *.jpgs on here.  We know of the
limits in nviewlib.dll... other appls are showing *their* dirty wash, too.
I threw a $70 CD in the trash - PSP4.24 - because it reclaimed ALL formats
any time it is run & I DO NOT want PSP as my default viewer!  There were
other problems for me, too.

LView (any version) & PhotoMagic will NOT read each others' *.jpg.  Everything
else will read both & both will read just about all others'.  BIG bitch!!!
They are my basic default editors - LView2PRO & PhotoMagic Lite.  I use GWS11p
for everything those two can't handle.

If you haven't tried to register as a user for nviewlib.dll, the download time
is all you have invested in it.  I don't know of any advantage of registering -
Nishita doesn't seem to ever respond personally.  I've been talking TO him for
about 3 years now.
<G>
TomR.


At 09:33 AM 11/10/99 +0200, you wrote:
>List Member Engel Nobbe <bluez@celestial.demon.nl> wrote:
>Uh... I just tried the DLL of the NVIEWLIB I had... bugger... it indeed
>doesn't do all the different formats, although it does quite a few... I've
>found some problems with files created by PhotoShop that a browser can handle,
>but several drawing packages cannot. Is this the 'progressive format' you're
>refering to? If not, send me a sample JPG to my email address
>mailto:bluez@celestial.demon.nl , and I see what I can do with it...
>
>Tom Record wrote:
>
>> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> >5. be able to read in jpg's instead of bmp's
>>
>> I'll feed you the "C" files necessary if you'll give me the
>> GFA-W(16) source.  My collection goes thru v6, but does NOT
>> cover "progressive".  That is the one that first gives you
>> a 1-bit representation, then unwinds the image itself.
>>
>> I have VC1, but have NEVER been successful at compiling to get
>> the *.obj file.  GFA-W(16) will "include" that & give you the
>> capability of doing a lot with *.jpg.
>>
>> <G>
>> TomR.
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Thanks, John.
I mixed Hamstra's loadbmp.exe into it & got it to work.  I *knew* what
the problem was, just couldn't see past it.  I fully expected to see
my computer jump off the table when it hit the 2nd set of header info,
but I guess _everything_ is different so it got past it & works fine.

I haven't yet figured how to "borrow" Eberhard's color reduction/saves
so the only way I can get a useable 8-bit is to reset *my* colors to
256.  Even 8-bit RLE is valid only when the adaptor is set to 256!

Screw it!  I'm thinking about *.lzh-ing 16-bit images & see if I can
un-*.lzh'em into memory instead of back to the drive.  I just wanna 
reduce package-size.

<G>
TomR.




At 04:01 AM 11/10/99 -0400, you wrote:
>List Member John Findlay <Jayef@compuserve.com> wrote:
>
>Tom,
>
>w& = LOADBMP(whatsis.bmp)
>d& = GetDC(w&)
>
>The code above is trying to get the DC of a bitmap so it's not a valid DC.
>
>Regards,
>
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Subject: Re: [gfabasic] [RoyB.] Printing To Printer
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
At 03:28 AM 12/10/99 -0000, you wrote:
>Tom Record asked if i wanted to print w/ resident fonts or setup up printer
fonts.I would like to try both to see which i can work best with. i would be
very grateful for any samples you can send.
>
>Roy Burgess
>rebburrr@as.net

Roy
A starting point.  you must determine printer dpi on your own with this.  Will
locate others & auto-detect routine a bit later.
<G>
TomR.


// Printfnt.gfw
'      Written 2-9-93 by Craig Randall
'      This is an example program to show how to size output to the printer.
'      First, the user sets up his/her own fonts and printer selection using
'      standard dialog boxes.  Output is done to the screen as normal.  Then
'      output is done to the printer in the same scale relative to the
'      size of the page as the screen.

'      The reason this is necessary is that printed fonts are calculated
'      using the resolution of the printer, so that at 300 DPI (Dots per Inch),
'      a 12-point font will seem exceedingly small.

'      The scaling is done simply for example.  I leave it to the
'      programmer to decide what scaling factor is appropriate
'      for each application.

'      Set up the printer.  dc& will be returned as the handle of the
'      Device Context that was set up. (See Ref. pg 477)
DLG PRINT 1,0,dc&
'      User determines all font values.  This font is set up in memory,
'      but is not actually accessed until the FONT TO command points to it.
OPENW #1
PRINT "Choose a font.  The output to the printer"
PRINT "will size itself relative to this window."
DLG FONT 1,dc&,CF_BOTH | CF_EFFECTS,0,0,0,""

'       *  Output is sent to the screen first.
'      Set screenfont& as the handle of the font.
FONT TO screenfont&
'      Return to p% the handle of the name of the font (see Ref. pg 512).
RFONT NAME p%
'      Build output string to show "FONT - STYLE."  _EBX may return
'      Bold and/or Italic as a string.
n$ = CHAR{p%} + " - " + CHAR{_EBX}
'      Change the current font to x&
SETFONT screenfont&
'      Output the text to the screen.
TEXT 0,100,"This is a text (" + n$ + ") OK."
'      Change the font to the smallest possible readable point size
SETFONT OEM_FIXED_FONT
'      Print example text again in the new font
TEXT 0,150,"This is a text (" + n$ + ") OK."

'        *  Now, output will be sent to the printer in the same font, but
'      it must be resized to correspond to its relative screen size.  To
'      do this, we must use an API call to get the actual page size of the
'      printer.
'      The X-Y page size of the printer is returned as a four-byte value,
'      two bytes each.  This array will allow us to access each individually.
DIM printer_x_y&(1)
'      Make new output channel the Device Context set with the DLG PRINT
SETDC dc&
'      Get X-Y size of the printer page.  Note that in the return value
'      V: is a pointer to the array.
~Escape(dc&,GETPHYSPAGESIZE,0,0,V:printer_x_y&(0))
'      Get width and height of the font
RFONT  WIDTH w&,HEIGHT h&
'      Calculate new height and width for the font.
neww& = w& * printer_x_y&(0) / _X
newh& = h& * printer_x_y&(1) / _X

'      Once you set a font, in order to alter it, you must set it all up
'      again with new FONT commands.
RFONT ITALIC italic&
RFONT UNDERLINE underline&
RFONT STRIKEOUT strikeout&
RFONT CHARSET charset&
RFONT CLIPPRECISION clipprecision&
RFONT QUALITY quality&
RFONT PITCH pitch&
RFONT FAMILY family&
RFONT WEIGHT weight&
RFONT ORIENTATION orientation&
RFONT ESCAPEMENT escapement&
FONT ITALIC italic&, UNDERLINE underline&, STRIKEOUT strikeout&
FONT CHARSET charset&, CLIPPRECISION clipprecision&, QUALITY quality&
FONT QUALITY quality&, PITCH pitch&, FAMILY family&, WEIGHT weight&
FONT WIDTH neww&, HEIGHT newh&, ORIENTATION orientation&, ESCAPEMENT escapement&

'   Load the new font into the handle printx&
FONT TO printfont&
'   Begin document.
STARTDOC "CHARTEST"
'   Print once using the screen font for comparison.
SETFONT screenfont&
TEXT 0,30,"This is a text (" + n$ + ") OK"
'   Use the Printer font.
SETFONT printfont&
TEXT 0,100,"This is a text (" + n$ + ") OK"
'   Use a fixed font for comparison.
SETFONT OEM_FIXED_FONT
TEXT 0,10,"This is a Text( Fixed Font )OK"
'   Free up memory resources (Recommended for efficiency).
FREEFONT screenfont&
FREEFONT printfont&
NEW FRAME
'   End document and send it to the Print Manager.
ENDDOC
'   Return output back to the screen.
SETDC _DC(1)
'   Free up Device Context (Recommended for efficiency).
FREEDC dc&
MESSAGE "Press to end program.","GFA-BASIC",MB_OK,a

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Windows and OS/2 BMP, JPEG, PC Paintbrush (PCX), TIFF, Targa, Photo 
CD, MacPaint, FBM, Sun Raster, CMU WM Raster, Portable Bit Map (PBM, 
PGM, PPM), Faces Project, Utah RLE, X Window Dump, McIDAS areafile, G3 
FAX, GEM Bit, X Pixmap, and X Bitmap.

How do *those* grab you?  Imglib, $50, 16-bit & 32-bit!  Not crippled!
ftp://ftp.netcom.com/pub/si/simsoft/ImgLib/ImgLb125.zip
The author can be reached at:  arybicki@netcom.com

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At 04:13 AM 11/10/99 -0400, you wrote:
>List Member Micromiser Software <miser@cde.com> wrote:
>Hi Engel,
>
>I tried NVIEWL16.DLL with very knowledgeable help from Tom Record. I found
>it to decode nearly all JPGs I found on the Internet except the really
>corrupted ones. It's a little slow compared to WECJLIB (which misses a lot
>of them). But the only real problem I had with it was that I couldn't
>prevent the error popup from coming up when decoding a corrupted file. That
>made preloading unworkable, a feature I require. I've found no solution to
>loading all formats and avoiding an error popup, though I haven't tried
>Imag'n ($200). Their free trial precluded a valid test.
>
>Now that I have Delphi, I find there are JPG decoders available for that. At
>some point I will try them and hope to create a 32-bit DLL that serves all
>formats without an error popup.
>
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>
>At 09:33 AM 10/11/99 +0200, you wrote:
>>List Member Engel Nobbe <bluez@celestial.demon.nl> wrote:
>>Uh... I just tried the DLL of the NVIEWLIB I had... bugger... it indeed
>>doesn't do all the different formats, although it does quite a few... I've
>>found some problems with files created by PhotoShop that a browser can handle,
>>but several drawing packages cannot. Is this the 'progressive format' you're
>>refering to? If not, send me a sample JPG to my email address
>>mailto:bluez@celestial.demon.nl , and I see what I can do with it...
>>
>>Tom Record wrote:
>>
>>> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>>> >5. be able to read in jpg's instead of bmp's
>>>
>>> I'll feed you the "C" files necessary if you'll give me the
>>> GFA-W(16) source.  My collection goes thru v6, but does NOT
>>> cover "progressive".  That is the one that first gives you
>>> a 1-bit representation, then unwinds the image itself.
>>>
>>> I have VC1, but have NEVER been successful at compiling to get
>>> the *.obj file.  GFA-W(16) will "include" that & give you the
>>> capability of doing a lot with *.jpg.
>>>
>>> <G>
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List Member Thomas Gonschor <verwaltung@vph-bensberg.de> wrote:
Hi Everybody! :-)

Do someone has got an idea to write the name of a printer into a
string after using the "DLG PRINT"-dialog. As far as I know this
dialog do not change the entry for the default printer in the WIN.INI
sothat I can not read it with "GetProfileString".

Many thanks in advance

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List Member "franz-xaver.schweiger" <franz-xaver.schweiger@debitel.net> wrote:


Dale Bryant wrote:

> Hi,
> I would like to include your sprite demo in the GFAWHELP file with your
> permission.
> Please let me know if that is OK. Also, I would like to feature it on the
> code-of-the-day page.
> Thanks
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> adbryant@gfa.net

You can include the Sprite demo in the GFAWHELP file!
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List Member Engel Nobbe <bluez@celestial.demon.nl> wrote:
> I tried NVIEWL16.DLL with very knowledgeable help from Tom Record. I found
> it to decode nearly all JPGs I found on the Internet except the really
> corrupted ones. It's a little slow compared to WECJLIB (which misses a lot
> of them). But the only real problem I had with it was that I couldn't
> prevent the error popup from coming up when decoding a corrupted file. That
> made preloading unworkable, a feature I require. I've found no solution to
> loading all formats and avoiding an error popup, though I haven't tried
> Imag'n ($200). Their free trial precluded a valid test.

Ehm... what do you exactly mean with that? A pop up from inside the DLL to inform
that it is a corrupted file, or something really going bad and crashing your
program?


>
>
> Now that I have Delphi, I find there are JPG decoders available for that. At
> some point I will try them and hope to create a 32-bit DLL that serves all
> formats without an error popup.
>
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>
> At 09:33 AM 10/11/99 +0200, you wrote:
> >List Member Engel Nobbe <bluez@celestial.demon.nl> wrote:
> >Uh... I just tried the DLL of the NVIEWLIB I had... bugger... it indeed
> >doesn't do all the different formats, although it does quite a few... I've
> >found some problems with files created by PhotoShop that a browser can handle,
> >but several drawing packages cannot. Is this the 'progressive format' you're
> >refering to? If not, send me a sample JPG to my email address
> >mailto:bluez@celestial.demon.nl , and I see what I can do with it...
> >
> >Tom Record wrote:
> >
> >> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> >> >5. be able to read in jpg's instead of bmp's
> >>
> >> I'll feed you the "C" files necessary if you'll give me the
> >> GFA-W(16) source.  My collection goes thru v6, but does NOT
> >> cover "progressive".  That is the one that first gives you
> >> a 1-bit representation, then unwinds the image itself.
> >>
> >> I have VC1, but have NEVER been successful at compiling to get
> >> the *.obj file.  GFA-W(16) will "include" that & give you the
> >> capability of doing a lot with *.jpg.
> >>
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List Member Engel Nobbe <bluez@celestial.demon.nl> wrote:
Ah, a complete rewrite... I just *might* be tempted. Is it worth the effort with
GFA32 now out? Might, might not... hmm... how long is the original C(++) source?
And is it documented?

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List Member Engel Nobbe <bluez@celestial.demon.nl> wrote:
> Nviewlib.dll is a freebie - it isn't gonna handle 349 formats <G>.  It

A few would do in my case :-)


> in it's helpfile.  Caution tho... *.gif...Unisys wants $$$$$$$$$$$ from
> even the casual user now & too, if you try to load an animation with it,

I know. But there's a difference between implementing the code, and actually using
it :-)


> LView (any version) & PhotoMagic will NOT read each others' *.jpg.  Everything
> else will read both & both will read just about all others'.  BIG bitch!!!

The programmers don't like each other probably :-)


> They are my basic default editors - LView2PRO & PhotoMagic Lite.  I use GWS11p
> for everything those two can't handle.

I mostly use an oldy for the simpler stuff: ImagePals, and have some heavier
material on standby, but mostly without actually using it... I miss my good old
DPaint of the Amiga... sniff...


> If you haven't tried to register as a user for nviewlib.dll, the download time
> is all you have invested in it.  I don't know of any advantage of registering -

Tried to register? The version I have here says that all I need to use it is
sending in a postcard... How do you mean?


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> Screw it!  I'm thinking about *.lzh-ing 16-bit images & see if I can
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List Member Engel Nobbe <bluez@celestial.demon.nl> wrote:
I'm affraid it didn't do a very good job...

> The following is a translation to English of the message of "Everhard
> Funck" regarding GFA32. The translation was done by the "Web Translator",

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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
I have Global Translator and also Systran translator. Both come out pretty
bad. They are fair on single phrases but not on a document.
Dale

http://gfawhelp.gfa.net
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> List Member Engel Nobbe <bluez@celestial.demon.nl> wrote:
> I'm affraid it didn't do a very good job...
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List Member "Eberhard Funck" <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de> wrote:
Hallo Dale,

You don't need a translator.
This email was not for this list.
I wanted to write GFA, why I don't
get no information about GFA32.

I have write the wrong email address.
Thats all.

Greetings

Eberhard


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>List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
>I have Global Translator and also Systran translator. Both come out pret=
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>bad. They are fair on single phrases but not on a document.
>Dale
>
>http://gfawhelp.gfa.net
>adbryant@msn.com
>adbryant@gfa.net
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>> I'm affraid it didn't do a very good job...
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List Member Engel Nobbe <bluez@celestial.demon.nl> wrote:
Ich denke es geht auch wenn man hier im Deutsch schreibt, aber ich muss d=
a
sagen das mein Deutsch nicht so gut ist... weil ich Niederlander bin...

:-)


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> List Member "Eberhard Funck" <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de> wrote:
> Hallo Dale,
>
> You don't need a translator.
> This email was not for this list.
> I wanted to write GFA, why I don't
> get no information about GFA32.
>
> I have write the wrong email address.
> Thats all.
>
> Greetings
>
> Eberhard
>
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>
> >List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> >I have Global Translator and also Systran translator. Both come out pr=
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> >bad. They are fair on single phrases but not on a document.
> >Dale
> >
> >http://gfawhelp.gfa.net
> >adbryant@msn.com
> >adbryant@gfa.net
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: Engel Nobbe <bluez@celestial.demon.nl>
> >To: <gfabasic@gfa.net>
> >Sent: Monday, October 11, 1999 12:04 PM
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> >
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> >>
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

Hal
Welcome to the group!
It appears that grammer is pitiful in all translators.  It would
appear that everybody else has the same problem I have experienced...
I can handle the English grammer, but need tons of help with the
German grammer.  The German programmers use dialects instead of proper
German, so all translators shred the translations.

Authors tend to handle grammer properly in their own languages for
the purpose of writing translators, but the language(s) they translate
to are really sick, grammer-wise <G>!

Vocabularies are sometimes monsterous... phrase dbs are even bigger.
My German/English db is 4M+ & still growing... & has a long way to go!
<G>
TomR.

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Subject: [gfabasic] ??? on *.bmp animation images...
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
I've been asked several questions on the animation *.bmps, so... here goes:

*ANY* *.gif animation can be made into a *.bmp animation by several means.  I
use this:

I open the animation in GIF Construction Set, by Alchemy Mindworks Inc.  Here
I modify the "CONTROL" time, resetting it to about 2 seconds in each instance.

I open the modified animation in Opera 3.60, a browser that allows me to do
screencapture without crashing or bitching.

I use camera.exe, from Dr.Halo, to perform the captures using F12 as shortcut.

I save'em as *.bmp so I can edit them by cropping, etc., then reduce colordepth
to 8-bit or 16-bit when possible.

*ANY* sequence of photos can be made into an animation this way.

IF one intends to generate a single image for the animation, it can be formatted
in almost any direction, but one must make certain that all component images are
cropped or padded to the same size first.

If individual images are to be used, then the display window can automatically
adjust to the displayed image size.

I'm playing with compression to get the file size(s) down.  GFA-W(16) will
readily load RLE-compressed *.bmp images in most cases, but I've run into
trouble w/ one of Hamstra's displays that uses LGET when trying to load a
16-bit RLE-compressed image.  Now, I'm looking at possibly using LZH because
all computers have it's decompressor on board & I have GFA-W(16) code that 
that will run it OK.  I'd rather use *.CAB!!!  OR... *.PNG!!!

Animation images can be displayed far too fast to see'em!  They can be put
onscreen in a slide from any quadrant, they can be displayed a few pixels
high or wide - constructing the image a line at a time, etc.  The "effects"
are pretty numerous & I've not worked all of them out yet in GFA-W(16).

One problem encountered: GFA-W(16)'s default *.bmp save (using Hamstra's)
code or that found among hundreds of samples is by nature going to occur
at the display adaptor's colordepth setting!  If your screen is set to
16-bit, there is NO WAY you can get a decent 8-bit image back.  If you are
set tp 256 colors, you get a semi-decent 8-bit image back.  You have control
over compression (to a point <G>).  Bear in mind tho - most older photo-type
image editors (NOT PAINT progs) will balk at loading RLE compression.  Some
are so specific that they won't load 16-bit, either.  Most might handle the
FULL COLOR 24-bit, but 32-bit is, again, gonna be refused.  It would seem that 
most PAINT-type progs operate much like GFA_W(16)'s output - they handle the
compressed images OK in most cases, but might be nasty to edit a photo in.

I could drop all of this & resort to using a *.dll, I suppose.  The image 
files can be *.jpg this way, but then... there's the *.dll to pack along.
All space-savings are lost!

Eberhard has worked out colordepth changing to a fine art, but he writes
at such a much higher level than I do that I haven't been able to use
his routines yet.  He can get a decent 8-bit image regardless of the adaptor 
setting.

Hopefully, this clears up what I've been doing.
<G>
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Tom,
>
I open the animation in GIF Construction Set, by Alchemy Mindworks Inc.
Here
I modify the "CONTROL" time, resetting it to about 2 seconds in each
instance.
</
Is this the time between frame?
>>
I open the modified animation in Opera 3.60, a browser that allows me to do
screencapture without crashing or bitching.
<</
Do you capture the entire screen?


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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Hi Roy,
I get a divide by zero error on the line below.
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
OPEN "o",#1,"temp"
OPEN "o",#1,"temp.dat"
"C Runtime error" without some extension.


FONT "arial",PITCH fixed_pitch,HEIGHT vr& / vr1&,WIDTH hr1& / hr&
FONT "arial",PITCH fixed_pitch,HEIGHT vr1& / vr&,WIDTH hr1& / hr&
You can divide zero by something, but not divide something by zero!

Canon BJC-210
Prints: tab1 is test line # 20, underscored, bold.  Is Arial, looks to be
12pt or so.

Note made that you used all HP printers except that Epson.  Most printers
emmulate either Epson or ProPrinter.  HP is separate case.

<G>
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
At 04:23 PM 11/10/99 -0700, you wrote:
>List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
>Tom,
>>
>I open the animation in GIF Construction Set, by Alchemy Mindworks Inc.
>Here
>I modify the "CONTROL" time, resetting it to about 2 seconds in each
>instance.
></
>Is this the time between frame?
>
+++++++ Yep - this determines timing.  Gives me 2 sec for the capture.
>>>
>I open the modified animation in Opera 3.60, a browser that allows me to do
>screencapture without crashing or bitching.
><</
>Do you capture the entire screen?
>
+++ Nope - I go "area" & pull selection around it then crop the excess.
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This is a multi-part message in MIME format.

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Tom Record asked if i wanted to print w/ resident fonts or setup up =
printer fonts.I would like to try both to see which i can work best =
with. i would be very grateful for any samples you can send.

Roy Burgess
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List Member Engel Nobbe <bluez@celestial.demon.nl> wrote:
Might the fact that some devices and fonts don't report a width be the
cause?

Dale Bryant wrote:

> List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> Hi Roy,
> I get a divide by zero error on the line below.
> ************************
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List Member John Findlay <Jayef@compuserve.com> wrote:

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
At 08:46 PM 12/10/99 -0000, you wrote:
>I sent the wrong code for the printer routine. the corrected routine is
enclosed but, i understand that this will not work on all printers. Tom
record said it will not work on a canon printer. However i think it will
work on most hp printers. I will work on the canon & ibm proprinter and see
if i can get it to work on then. Maybe i can get it to read which printer is
being used and chain a routine for that printer unless someone who knows a
lot more than i do does it first(hint hint). about the only thing i did was
devide the vertical res of the printer by the vert res of the screen and
devide the horz res of the printer by the horiz res or the screen and then
set the height & width of the font by multiplying the result by whatever
size i wanted for the size of the font. at least that is what i think i did.
anyway it will work on all the hp printers i have. anybody who wants to play
with this please let me know what results you get.
>

Correction...
*IF* "tab1 is test line # 20", underlined, bold, Arial 12 or so is incorrect,
then it doesn't work on BJC-210s.  However, if that _IS_ correct, then it
DOES work on BJC-210 after the two corrections I noted before are made.
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
OPEN "X",#1,"TEMP"
causes "C" Runtime error for me!
OPEN "X",#1,"TEMP.txt" or OPEN "X",#1,"TEMP.dat"
does NOT!

This time, I got 20 lines, "TAB IS TEST LINE # 1" -  thru 20!
It is apparently "fixed serif" or such, underscored, bold, about 30pt!
I didn't look at the routine to see what the font is supposed to be.
It's 7 in the morning & I'm off to bed.
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
At 08:51 AM 12/10/99 +0200, you wrote:
>List Member Engel Nobbe <bluez@celestial.demon.nl> wrote:
>Might the fact that some devices and fonts don't report a width be the
>cause?
>
>Dale Bryant wrote:
>
>> List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
>> Hi Roy,
>> I get a divide by zero error on the line below.
>> ************************
>> font "arial",pitch fixed_pitch,height vr&/vr1&,width hr1&/hr&
>> ************************
>

No...  "vr&/vr1&" is the problem!  vr1& = 0!  Can't divide by 0!
change to vr1&/vr& & it'll work w/o error!  you CAN divide 0 by 
something else!  This beats hell outa me, but appears to be so!

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List Member BDD <BrentDeck@compuserve.com> wrote:
I could not duplicate your problem with RGB(0,0,0).
However try the following program with and without line 2.

Brent


z% =3D RGB(0,0,0)
z% =3D z% | $02000000   // line 2
OPENW #1
RGBCOLOR z%
PBOX  50,50,100,100
KEYGET a
CLOSEW #1
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Thanks Roy, I will check it again.
http://gfawhelp.gfa.net
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  Hi Dale:
  I tried this again and the only thing i can see is instead of ( font =
"arial"pitch fixed_pitch,height vr&/vr1&,width hr1&/hr&), you have a =
space between vr and 1 and a space between hr and1. I tried it like that =
and I got a syntax error and could not get out of that line until I took =
the space out from both. My computer is set at 640x480 true color 32 =
bit. I tried it with different resolutions and it worked the same. I did =
not try with different color settings but, this should not make a =
difference (i hope). i will try with different color settings and let =
you know.

  Roy Burgess
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Thanks Roy, I will check it again.</FONT></DIV>
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  <A href=3D"mailto:rebburrr@AS.NET" title=3Drebburrr@AS.NET>roy =
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi Dale:</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I tried this again and the only thing =
i can see=20
  is instead of ( font "arial"pitch fixed_pitch,height =
vr&amp;/vr1&amp;,width=20
  hr1&amp;/hr&amp;), you have a space between vr and 1 and a space =
between hr=20
  and1. I tried it like that and I got a syntax error and could not get =
out of=20
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640x480=20
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the=20
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make a=20
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Hey fellers: I think (maybe) i got it figgered out how to print to =
different printers and different resolutions without using the Printer =
set up dialog.At least this works on every printer i tried it on (hp =
laserjetllp, hp officejet 600, hp deskjet 750,hp laserjet 5p, hp =
laserjet 3100, hp laserjet 4050, epson epl 600). With all these =
printers, i get the same size print and the same size spacing without =
doing anything except changing the default printer to the one i am =
printing on.(At least it looks the same, i did not make any pricise =
measurments). The source code looks like a beginner but, thats the only =
way i could get it to work today.Maybe somebody out there has the guts =
to try it (but don't blame me if your computer and printer explodes and =
destroys your house and takes half your neighborhood with it), and write =
the code the way it should be written. If anybody does, after you have =
quit laughing (if you survive the laughter), please send it to me. Also =
anybody please let me know of any printers this won't work on. There is =
no error checking done so far.

Here is the source code.

openw#1
fullw#1
hr1=3Dgetdevcaps(horzrez)
vr1=3Dgetdevcaps(vertres)
vs1&=3Dgetdevcaps(vertsize)
hs1&=3Dgetdevcaps(horzsize)
lp1&=3Dgetdevcaps(logpixelsx)
c1&=3Dgetdevcaps(logpixelsy)

//    Print a text file to disk
open "o",#1,"temp"
for i%=3D1 to 20
a$=3D"This is test line # "+str$(i%)
print #1,a$
next i%
close #1
dc&=3Dprinterdc()
setdc dc&
startdoc "test"
hr&=3Dgetdevcaps(horzres)
vr&=3Dgetdevcaps(vertres)
vs&=3Dgetdevcaps(vertsize)
hs&=3Dgetdevcaps(horzsize)
lp&=3Dgetdevcaps(logpixelsx)
c&=3Dgetdevcaps(logpixelsy)
org=3Doem_fixed_font
org&=3Dsystem_font
setfont org&
getfont org&
rfont name p%
font family 0,quality 0
font "arial",pitch fixed_pitch,height vr&/vr1&,width hr1&/hr&
font orientation 0,escapement 0,italic 0,underline 1
rfont height h&,width w&,pitch pitch&
if lp&=3D300 then             // 300 dpi
tab1=3D1800                   // set here for any tab stops wanted
endif
if lp&=3D600 then
tab1=3D3600
endif
if lp&=3D1200 then
tab1=3D7200
endif
//                    set height & width here 6 7 8 9 10 etc
font height h&*20,width w&*(h&/3) to fnt_b&
setfont fnt_b&
//                     read data from file created earlier
open "i",#1,"temp"
startdoc "test"
while not eof(#1)
input #1,a$
i%=3D0
//                 last number here must be same as h&
i%=3Di%+h&*20
text 0,i%,a$
text tab1,i%,"tab1"
wend
close #1
newframe
enddoc
freefont fnt_b&
setdc dc(&)
freedc dc&
close #1
closew #1
end or chain another program

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http-equiv=3DContent-Type>
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<STYLE></STYLE>
</HEAD>
<BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hey fellers: I think (maybe) i got it =
figgered out=20
how to print to different printers and different resolutions without =
using the=20
Printer set up dialog.At least this works on every printer i tried it on =
(hp=20
laserjetllp, hp officejet 600, hp deskjet 750,hp laserjet 5p, hp =
laserjet 3100,=20
hp laserjet 4050, epson epl 600). With all these printers, i get the =
same size=20
print and the same size spacing without doing anything except changing =
the=20
default printer to the one i am printing on.(At least it looks the same, =
i did=20
not make any pricise measurments). The source code looks like a beginner =
but,=20
thats the only way i could get it to work today.Maybe somebody out there =
has the=20
guts to try it (but don't blame me if your computer and printer explodes =
and=20
destroys your house and takes half your neighborhood with it), and write =
the=20
code the way it should be written. If anybody does, after you have quit =
laughing=20
(if you survive the laughter), please send it to me. Also anybody please =
let me=20
know of any printers this won't work on. There is no error checking done =
so=20
far.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Here is the source code.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>openw#1</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>fullw#1</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>hr1=3Dgetdevcaps(horzrez)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>vr1=3Dgetdevcaps(vertres)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>vs1&amp;=3Dgetdevcaps(vertsize)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>hs1&amp;=3Dgetdevcaps(horzsize)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>lp1&amp;=3Dgetdevcaps(logpixelsx)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>c1&amp;=3Dgetdevcaps(logpixelsy)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>//&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Print a text file =
to=20
disk</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>open "o",#1,"temp"</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>for i%=3D1 to 20</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>a$=3D"This is test line # =
"+str$(i%)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>print #1,a$</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>next i%</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>close #1</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>dc&amp;=3Dprinterdc()</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>setdc dc&amp;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>startdoc "test"</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>hr&amp;=3Dgetdevcaps(horzres)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>vr&amp;=3Dgetdevcaps(vertres)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>vs&amp;=3Dgetdevcaps(vertsize)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>hs&amp;=3Dgetdevcaps(horzsize)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>lp&amp;=3Dgetdevcaps(logpixelsx)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>c&amp;=3Dgetdevcaps(logpixelsy)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>org=3Doem_fixed_font</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>org&amp;=3Dsystem_font</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>setfont org&amp;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>getfont org&amp;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>rfont name p%</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>font family 0,quality 0</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>font "arial",pitch fixed_pitch,height=20
vr&amp;/vr1&amp;,width hr1&amp;/hr&amp;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>font orientation 0,escapement 0,italic =
0,underline=20
1</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>rfont height h&amp;,width w&amp;,pitch=20
pitch&amp;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>if lp&amp;=3D300=20
then&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp; //=20
300 dpi</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>tab1=3D1800&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
// set here for any tab stops wanted</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>endif</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>if lp&amp;=3D600 then</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>tab1=3D3600</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>endif</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>if lp&amp;=3D1200 then</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>tab1=3D7200</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>endif</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>//&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
set height &amp; width here 6 7 8 9 10 etc</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>font height h&amp;*20,width =
w&amp;*(h&amp;/3) to=20
fnt_b&amp;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>setfont fnt_b&amp;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>//&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
read data from file created earlier</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>open "i",#1,"temp"</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>startdoc "test"</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>while not eof(#1)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>input #1,a$</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>i%=3D0</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>//&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
last number here must be same as h&amp;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>i%=3Di%+h&amp;*20</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>text 0,i%,a$</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>text tab1,i%,"tab1"</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>wend</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>close #1</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>newframe</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>enddoc</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>freefont fnt_b&amp;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>setdc dc(&amp;)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>freedc dc&amp;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>close #1</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>closew #1</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>end or chain another =
program</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Roy Burgess</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>rebburrr@as.net</FONT></DIV>
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Hi Dale:
I tried this again and the only thing i can see is instead of ( font =
"arial"pitch fixed_pitch,height vr&/vr1&,width hr1&/hr&), you have a =
space between vr and 1 and a space between hr and1. I tried it like that =
and I got a syntax error and could not get out of that line until I took =
the space out from both. My computer is set at 640x480 true color 32 =
bit. I tried it with different resolutions and it worked the same. I did =
not try with different color settings but, this should not make a =
difference (i hope). i will try with different color settings and let =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I tried this again and the only thing i =
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hr1&amp;/hr&amp;), you have a space between vr and 1 and a space between =
hr=20
and1. I tried it like that and I got a syntax error and could not get =
out of=20
that line until I took the space out from both. My computer is set at =
640x480=20
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the same.=20
I did not try with different color settings but, this should not make a=20
difference (i hope). i will try with different color settings and let =
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List Member "EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" <JoeHurst@snafu.de> wrote:
> German grammer.  The German programmers use dialects instead of proper
> German, so all translators shred the translations.
Ey, stop it. If I take a look at any english source (or read some your mails),
then it contains unknown shortcuts, cropped words, local dialect words,
never-seen-types of comments - EVERY translater english->german breaks down with
that...
BOTH sides are not perferct - but ALL translators want perfect input (for sloopy
output).

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List Member "EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" <JoeHurst@snafu.de> wrote:
> Would depend on which end you really mean <G> !!!!!
Ts, ts, ts.

BTW: Does anyone know a program that converts those sh*tt* slow and big PDF
files into something useable, as RTF or WinHelp? Freeware would be great,
Shareware would be okay :-)

Thanks, Bye, Joe

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I sent the wrong code for the printer routine. the corrected routine is =
enclosed but, i understand that this will not work on all printers. Tom =
record said it will not work on a canon printer. However i think it will =
work on most hp printers. I will work on the canon & ibm proprinter and =
see if i can get it to work on then. Maybe i can get it to read which =
printer is being used and chain a routine for that printer unless =
someone who knows a lot more than i do does it first(hint hint). about =
the only thing i did was devide the vertical res of the printer by the =
vert res of the screen and devide the horz res of the printer by the =
horiz res or the screen and then set the height & width of the font by =
multiplying the result by whatever size i wanted for the size of the =
font. at least that is what i think i did. anyway it will work on all =
the hp printers i have. anybody who wants to play with this please let =
me know what results you get.


OPENW #1
FULLW #1

HR1& =3D GETDEVCAPS(HORZRES)
VR1& =3D GETDEVCAPS(VERTRES)
nc1& =3D GETDEVCAPS(NUMCOLORS)
VS1& =3D GETDEVCAPS(VERTSIZE)
HS1& =3D GETDEVCAPS(HORZSIZE)
LP1& =3D GETDEVCAPS(LOGPIXELSX)
C1& =3D GETDEVCAPS(LOGPIXELSY)
AX& =3D GETDEVCAPS(ASPECTX)
BX& =3D GETDEVCAPS(ASPECTY)

' PRINT A TEXT FILE TO DISK
OPEN "O",#1,"TEMP"
FOR I% =3D 1 TO 20
  A$ =3D "THIS IS TEST LINE # " + STR$(I%)
  PRINT #1,A$
NEXT I%
CLOSE #1
DC& =3D PrinterDC()
SETDC DC&
STARTDOC "TEST"
HR& =3D GETDEVCAPS(HORZRES)
VR& =3D GETDEVCAPS(VERTRES)
nc& =3D GETDEVCAPS(NUMCOLORS)
VS& =3D GETDEVCAPS(VERTSIZE)
HS& =3D GETDEVCAPS(HORZSIZE)
LP& =3D GETDEVCAPS(LOGPIXELSX)
C& =3D GETDEVCAPS(LOGPIXELSY)
A& =3D GETDEVCAPS(ASPECTX)
B& =3D GETDEVCAPS(ASPECTY)
ORG =3D OEM_FIXED_FONT
ORG& =3D SYSTEM_FONT
SETFONT ORG&
GETFONT ORG&
RFONT NAME P%
FONT FAMILY 0,QUALITY 0
FONT "MODERN",PITCH FIXED_PITCH,HEIGHT VR& / VR1&,WIDTH HR1& / HR&
FONT ORIENTATION 0,ESCAPEMENT 0,ITALIC 0,UNDERLINE 1
RFONT HEIGHT H&,WIDTH w&,PITCH PITCH&
IF LP& =3D 300 THEN        // 300 DPI
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ENDIF
IF LP& =3D 600 THEN
  TAB1 =3D 3600
ENDIF
IF LP& =3D 1200 THEN
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ENDIF
' SET HEIGHT & WIDTH HERE 6 7 8 9 10 ETC
FONT HEIGHT H& * 20,WIDTH w& * (H& / 3) TO FNT_B&
SETFONT FNT_B&

'         READ DATA FROM FILE CREATED EARLIER
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ETC FOR LINE SPACING
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>' PRINT A TEXT FILE TO DISK<BR>OPEN=20
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LAST NUMBER HERE MUST BE SAME AS H&amp;*&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 6 7 8 9 =
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List Member "Georg Veichtlbauer" <veichtlbauer@gmx.at> wrote:
> Ey, stop it. If I take a look at any english source (or read some your
mails),
> then it contains unknown shortcuts, cropped words, local dialect words,
> never-seen-types of comments [....]


YES, Joe... ! :)

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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
There is a plug in for the Adobe PDF reader that allows saving in the RTF
Format
AERIAL32
Dale
http://gfawhelp.gfa.net
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> List Member "EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" <JoeHurst@snafu.de> wrote:
> > Would depend on which end you really mean <G> !!!!!
> Ts, ts, ts.
>
> BTW: Does anyone know a program that converts those sh*tt* slow and big
PDF
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> Shareware would be okay :-)
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
At 11:22 PM 12/10/99 +0200, you wrote:
>List Member "Georg Veichtlbauer" <veichtlbauer@gmx.at> wrote:
>> Ey, stop it. If I take a look at any english source (or read some your
>mails),
>> then it contains unknown shortcuts, cropped words, local dialect words,
>> never-seen-types of comments [....]
>
>
>YES, Joe... ! :)
>
>

Fellers, that butcher knife fits ALL of our hands.
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
begin w/ an American-English original:

	Some people have the misconception that cats never have to be bathed.
	That somehow they "lick" themselves clean.  Well contrary to this
	popular belief, cats do NOT have some enzyme in their saliva that
	resembles Tide (with or without bleach).
	=20
	Cats, like their nemesis, the dog .... do get dirty and have a
	variety of odors... from smelling like the outhouse where you camped
	last year to the same odor as your dog's breath.  (Remember... your
	dog will try to eat anything.)  Now we all know that cats HATE water.
	And we know that giving the cat a sedative to ease this process of a
	bath is out of the question.
	=20
	So, the best approach is both sneaky and direct. Remember now, this
	is not the dumb dog who can be led to tub with lies and a trail of
	Kibbles and Bits.
	=20
	Although your cat has the advantage of smarts, quickness and total
	lack of concern for you .... you have the advantage of size,
	strength, and the ability to wear protective garments.
	=20
	1. First .... dress for the occasion. A 4-ply rubber wet suit is
	suggested, along with a helmet, face mask and welders gloves.
	=20
	2. A Bathtub with a glass enclosure is preferred to the one with a
	shower curtain. A frenzied cat can shred one of these in about 3.5
	seconds.
	=20
	3. Have the Kitty Bubbles and towel in the enclosed bathtub area
	before hand. No ... blow drying the cat after the bath is not
	suggested.
	=20
	4. Draw the water, making it a little warmer than needed as you still
	need to find the cat. Position everything strategically in the
	shower, so you can reach it even if you are face down or prone in the
	tub.
	=20
	5. Find your cat. Use the element of surprise. Pick the cat up,
	nonchalantly as if you were simply carrying him/her to the supper
	dish. No need to worry about the cat noticing your strange attire...
	the cat barely notices you anyway.
	=20
	6. Once you and the cat are inside the bathroom .... speed is
	essential. In one single liquid motion .shut the door to the
	bathroom, step into the shower, close the sliding doors, and drop the
	cat into the water. While the cat is still in a state of shock,
	locate the Kitty Bubbles and squirt whatever part of him is above the
	water line. You have just begun the wildest 45 seconds of your life.
	Remember that cats have no handles and add the fact that he now has
	soapy fur. His state of shock has worn off and he's madder than a wet
	hornet.
	=20
	7. As best, you can, wearing welder's gloves, try to field his body
	as he catapults through the air toward the ceiling. If possible, give
	another squirt of Kitty Bubbles with his body now fully exposed.
	=20
	8. During the 5 seconds you are able to hold onto him, rub
	vigorously. No need to worry about rinsing. As he slide down the
	glass enclosure into the tub, he will fall back into the water,
	rinsing himself in the process.
	=20
	9. Only attempt the lather and rinse process about 3 times.  The cat
	will realize the lack of traction on the glass by then and will use
	the next attempt on the first available part of you.
	=20
	10. Next, the cat must be dried. No...this is NOT the easiest part.
	By this stage, you are worn out and the cat has just become
	semi-permanently affixed to your right leg.  We suggest here that you
	drain the tub and in full view of your cat . reach for the bottle of
	Kitty Bubbles.
	=20
	11. If you have done step 10 correctly, the cat will be off your leg
	and hanging precariously from your helmet.  Although this view of the
	cat is most disgusting, he will be in a much better position for
	wrapping the towel around him.
	=20
	12. Be sure cat is firmly wrapped in towel before opening tub
	enclosure. Open bathroom door .... put towel wrapped cat on floor and
	step back quickly. Into tub, if possible, and do not open enclosure
	until all you can see is the shredded towel.
	=20
	13. In about 2 hours .... it will be safe to exit the bathroom.  Your
	cat will be sitting out there somewhere looking like a small hedgehog
	while plotting revenge.

translate w/ Tolken97, phrases & words, to German:

	Ein bischen leute habe  misconception da=DF cats nie m=FCssen sein bathed.
	Da=DF einigerma=DFen ihnen "lecken" sich blank.  Nu widerw=E4rtig an dies
	popul=E4r glaube, cats anfertigen NEIN habe ein bischen enzyme im ihre=20
speichel da=DF
	resembles Ebbe und flut (mit oder ohne bleach).
	=20
	Cats, achten ihre nemesis,  hund .... anfertigen erbeuten unlauter=20
und habe ein
	variation ab odors... als smelling achten  outhouse war du/sie camped
	vorig jahr an dasselbe geruch as dein dog's atem.  (Behalten... dein
	hund wollen versuch an essen etwas.)  Nu uns alle kennen da=DF cats=20
HASSEN wasser.
	Und uns kennen da=DF giving  katze ein beruhigende tablette an ease=20
dies verfahren ab ein
	bad ist aus  frage.
	=20
	Also,  best bevorstehen ist beide sneaky und dirigieren. Behalten nu,=20
dies
	ist nein  sprachlos hund wer d=FCrfen sein led an bottich mit liegen=20
und ein geleise ab
	Kibbles und Bits.
	=20
	Obgleich dein katze hab/hat  interesse ab smarts, quickness und total
	fehlen ab tragweite f=FCr du/sie .... du/sie habe  interesse ab=20
ausdehnung,
	st=E4rke, und  kapazit=E4t an tragen protective garments.
	=20
	1. Erste .... verbinden f=FCr  mal. EIN 4-ply gummi na=DF vollz=E4hligkeit=
=20
ist
	suggested, gem=E4=DF mit ein helm, angesicht maske und welders handschuhe.
	=20
	2. EIN Bathtub mit ein glas enclosure ist preferred am ein mit ein
	brause gardine. EIN frenzied katze d=FCrfen shred ein ab dies im=20
betreffs 3.5
	sekunden.
	=20
	3. Habe  Kitty Bubbles und handtuch im  enclosed bathtub fl=E4cheninhalt
	j=FCngst einh=E4ndigen. Kein ... hieb drying  katze hinter  bad ist nein
	suggested.
	=20
	4. Zeichnen  wasser, making es ein bischen warmer als brauchte as=20
du/sie noch
	ben=F6tigen an auffassen  katze. Position alles strategically im=20
	brause, also du/sie d=FCrfen erlangen es eben falls du/sie sind=20
angesicht daune oder prone im=20
	bottich.
	=20
	5. Auffassen dein katze. Benutzen  element ab befremden. Abrei=DFen =20
katze aufw=E4rts,
	nonchalantly als ob du/sie war simply carrying er/die am abendessen
	schale. Kein ben=F6tigen an sorge tragen betreffs  katze noticing dein=20
ausl=E4ndisch bekleidung...
	 katze kaum merkt du/sie anyway.
	=20
	6. Einmal du/sie und  katze sind in  bad .... geschwindigkeit ist
	wesentlich. Im ein einfach fl=FCssig resolution .schlie=DFen  t=FCr am
	bad, schreiten in  brause, schlie=DFen  sliding doors, und fallen=20
	katze in  wasser. W=E4hrend  katze ist noch im ein behaupten ab r=FCtteln,
	legen  Kitty Bubbles und spritzen whatever anteil ab er ist oberhalb=20
	wasser angelleine. Du/sie habe billig begonnen  wildest 45 sekunden=20
ab dein leben.
	Behalten da=DF cats habe kein handles und addieren  tatsache da=DF er nu=20
hab/hat
	soapy balg. Der seine behaupten ab r=FCtteln hab/hat worn aus und he's=20
madder als ein na=DF
	hornisse.
	=20
	7. As best, du/sie d=FCrfen, wearing welder's handschuhe, versuch an=20
acker der seine k=F6rper
	as er catapults durch  luft an  decke. Falls ang=E4ngig, schenken
	anderer spritzen ab Kitty Bubbles mit der seine k=F6rper nu v=F6llig=20
zeigte.
	=20
	8. W=E4hrend  5 sekunden du/sie sind begabt an raum zu er, frottieren
	vigorously. Kein ben=F6tigen an sorge tragen betreffs rinsing. As er=20
die dias daune=20
	glas enclosure in  bottich, er wollen entfallen r=FCcken in  wasser,
	rinsing selber im  verfahren.
	=20
	9. Allein trachten nach  lather und gurgeln verfahren betreffs 3 mal.=20
  katze
	wollen begreifen  fehlen ab traction um  glas an also und wollen=20
benutzen
	 dann trachten nach um  erste verf=FCgbar anteil ab du/sie.
	=20
	10. Dann,  katze m=FCssen sein dried. Kein...dies ist NEIN  leichteste=20
anteil.
	An dies estrade, du/sie sind worn =E4u=DFerlich und  katze hab/hat billig=
=20
wurde
	semi-permanently affixed an dein rechter bein.  Uns andeuten hierher=20
da=DF du/sie
	drainieren  bottich und im voll aussicht ab dein katze . erlangen f=FCr=20
 flasche ab
	Kitty Bubbles.
	=20
	11. Falls du/sie habe fertig schreiten 10 korrekte,  katze wollen=20
sein aus dein bein
	und hanging precariously als dein helm.  Obgleich dies aussicht ab=20
	katze ist meist disgusting, er wollen sein im ein viel besser=20
position f=FCr
	wrapping  handtuch um er.
	=20
	12. Sein bestimmt katze ist firmly wrapped im handtuch j=FCngst =F6ffnung=
=20
bottich
	enclosure. Aufmachen bad t=FCr .... legen handtuch wrapped katze um=20
etage und
	schreiten r=FCcken flugs. In bottich, falls ang=E4ngig, und anfertigen=20
nein aufmachen enclosure
	bis alle du/sie d=FCrfen sehe ist  shredded handtuch.
	=20
	13. Im betreffs 2 stunden .... es wollen sein sicher an ausgang  bad.=20
 Dein
	katze wollen sein sitting =E4u=DFerlich da/es irgendwo das sehen achten=20
ein gering igel
	w=E4hrend plotting rache.

translate the original by words, only, to German:

	Ein bischen leute habe  misconception da=DF cats nie habe an sein=20
bathed.
	Da=DF einigerma=DFen ihnen "lecken" sich blank.  Nu widerw=E4rtig an dies
	popul=E4r glaube, cats anfertigen NEIN habe ein bischen enzyme im ihre=20
speichel da=DF
	resembles Ebbe und flut (mit oder ohne bleach).
	=20
	Cats, achten ihre nemesis,  hund .... anfertigen erbeuten unlauter=20
und habe ein
	variation ab odors... als smelling achten  outhouse war du/sie camped
	vorig jahr an  gleiche geruch as dein dog's atem.  (Behalten... dein
	hund wollen versuch an essen etwas.)  Nu uns alle kennen da=DF cats=20
HASSEN wasser.
	Und uns kennen da=DF giving  katze ein beruhigende tablette an ease=20
dies verfahren ab ein
	bad ist =E4u=DFerlich ab  frage.
	=20
	Also,  best bevorstehen ist beide sneaky und dirigieren. Behalten nu,=20
dies
	ist nein  sprachlos hund wer d=FCrfen sein led an bottich mit liegen=20
und ein geleise ab
	Kibbles und Bits.
	=20
	Obgleich dein katze hab/hat  interesse ab smarts, quickness und total
	fehlen ab tragweite f=FCr du/sie .... du/sie habe  interesse ab=20
ausdehnung,
	st=E4rke, und  kapazit=E4t an tragen protective garments.
	=20
	1. Erste .... verbinden f=FCr  mal. EIN 4-ply gummi na=DF vollz=E4hligkeit=
=20
ist
	suggested, gem=E4=DF mit ein helm, angesicht maske und welders handschuhe.
	=20
	2. EIN Bathtub mit ein glas enclosure ist preferred an  ein mit ein
	brause gardine. EIN frenzied katze d=FCrfen shred ein ab dies im=20
betreffs 3.5
	sekunden.
	=20
	3. Habe  Kitty Bubbles und handtuch im  enclosed bathtub fl=E4cheninhalt
	j=FCngst einh=E4ndigen. Kein ... hieb drying  katze hinter  bad ist nein
	suggested.
	=20
	4. Zeichnen  wasser, making es ein gering warmer als brauchte as=20
du/sie noch
	ben=F6tigen an auffassen  katze. Position alles strategically im=20
	brause, also du/sie d=FCrfen erlangen es eben falls du/sie sind=20
angesicht daune oder prone im=20
	bottich.
	=20
	5. Auffassen dein katze. Benutzen  element ab befremden. Abrei=DFen =20
katze aufw=E4rts,
	nonchalantly as falls du/sie war simply carrying er/die an  abendessen
	schale. Kein ben=F6tigen an sorge tragen betreffs  katze noticing dein=20
ausl=E4ndisch bekleidung...
	 katze kaum merkt du/sie anyway.
	=20
	6. Einmal du/sie und  katze sind in  bad .... geschwindigkeit ist
	wesentlich. Im ein einfach fl=FCssig resolution .schlie=DFen  t=FCr an=20
	bad, schreiten in  brause, schlie=DFen  sliding doors, und fallen=20
	katze in  wasser. W=E4hrend  katze ist noch im ein behaupten ab r=FCtteln,
	legen  Kitty Bubbles und spritzen whatever anteil ab er ist oberhalb=20
	wasser angelleine. Du/sie habe billig begonnen  wildest 45 sekunden=20
ab dein leben.
	Behalten da=DF cats habe kein handles und addieren  tatsache da=DF er nu=20
hab/hat
	soapy balg. Der seine behaupten ab r=FCtteln hab/hat worn aus und he's=20
madder als ein na=DF
	hornisse.
	=20
	7. As best, du/sie d=FCrfen, wearing welder's handschuhe, versuch an=20
acker der seine k=F6rper
	as er catapults durch  luft an  decke. Falls ang=E4ngig, schenken
	anderer spritzen ab Kitty Bubbles mit der seine k=F6rper nu v=F6llig=20
zeigte.
	=20
	8. W=E4hrend  5 sekunden du/sie sind begabt an raum zu er, frottieren
	vigorously. Kein ben=F6tigen an sorge tragen betreffs rinsing. As er=20
die dias daune=20
	glas enclosure in  bottich, er wollen entfallen r=FCcken in  wasser,
	rinsing selber im  verfahren.
	=20
	9. Allein trachten nach  lather und gurgeln verfahren betreffs 3 mal.=20
  katze
	wollen begreifen  fehlen ab traction um  glas an also und wollen=20
benutzen
	 dann trachten nach um  erste verf=FCgbar anteil ab du/sie.
	=20
	10. Dann,  katze m=FCssen sein dried. Kein...dies ist NEIN  leichteste=20
anteil.
	An dies estrade, du/sie sind worn =E4u=DFerlich und  katze hab/hat billig=
=20
wurde
	semi-permanently affixed an dein rechter bein.  Uns andeuten hierher=20
da=DF du/sie
	drainieren  bottich und im voll aussicht ab dein katze . erlangen f=FCr=20
 flasche ab
	Kitty Bubbles.
	=20
	11. Falls du/sie habe fertig schreiten 10 korrekte,  katze wollen=20
sein aus dein bein
	und hanging precariously als dein helm.  Obgleich dies aussicht ab=20
	katze ist meist disgusting, er wollen sein im ein viel besser=20
position f=FCr
	wrapping  handtuch um er.
	=20
	12. Sein bestimmt katze ist firmly wrapped im handtuch j=FCngst =F6ffnung=
=20
bottich
	enclosure. Aufmachen bad t=FCr .... legen handtuch wrapped katze um=20
etage und
	schreiten r=FCcken flugs. In bottich, falls ang=E4ngig, und anfertigen=20
nein aufmachen enclosure
	bis alle du/sie d=FCrfen sehe ist  shredded handtuch.
	=20
	13. Im betreffs 2 stunden .... es wollen sein sicher an ausgang  bad.=20
 Dein
	katze wollen sein sitting =E4u=DFerlich da/es irgendwo das sehen achten=20
ein gering igel
	w=E4hrend plotting rache.

translate the first translation BACK to English w/ words & phrases:

	A little people has  misconception that cats never must be bathed.
	That somehow you "lick" themselves bright.  Now alien to that
	popular belief, cats fabricate NOT has a little enzyme in their=20
saliva that
	resembles Tide (with or without bleach).
	=20
	Cats, respect their nemesis,  dog .... fabricate acquire dirty and=20
has one
	variety from odors... than smelling respect  outhouse was thou/you=20
camped
	former year to the same odor ace your dog's breath.  (Conserve... your
	dog be willing to experiment to meal anything.)  Now us all be=20
acquainted with that cats HATE water.
	And us be acquainted with that giving  cat one sedative to ease that=20
procedure from one
	bathroom am/is from  question.
	=20
	So,  best menace am/is both sneaky and direct. Conserve now, that
	am/is not  dumb dog who be allowed to be led to tub with lie and one=20
trail from
	Kibbles and Bits.
	=20
	Though your cat has/has  interest from smarts, quickness and entire
	be lacking from concern for thou/you .... thou/you has  interest from=20
bulk,
	force, and  ability to carry protective garments.
	=20
	1. First .... connect for  occasion. ONE 4-ply eraser wet outfit am/is
	suggested, according to with one helmet, face mask and welders gloves.
	=20
	2. ONE Bathtub with one glass enclosure am/is preferred the one with=20
one
	shower curtain. ONE frenzied cat be allowed to shred one from that in=20
about 3.5
	seconds.
	=20
	3. Has  Kitty Bubbles and towel in  enclosed bathtub area
	before hand. No ... blow drying  cat behind  bathroom am/is not
	suggested.
	=20
	4. Design  water, making it a little warmer than needed ace thou/you=20
still
	needed to find  cat. Position all of it strategically in=20
	shower, so thou/you be allowed to acquire it even in case thou/you am=20
face down or prone in=20
	tub.
	=20
	5. Find your cat. Use  element from surprise. Pick  cat above,
	nonchalantly as if thou/you was simply carrying he/the the evening=20
meal
	basin. No needed to care about  cat noticing your alien article of=20
dress...
	 cat barely marks/notices thou/you anyway.
	=20
	6. Once thou/you and  cat am to  bathroom .... speed am/is
	essential. In one simple fluent motion .close  door the
	bathroom, pace to  shower, close  sliding doors, and drop=20
	cat to  water. For  cat am/is still in one assert from shake,
	lay  Kitty Bubbles and gush whatever part from he am/is above=20
	water line. Thou/you has fair begun  wildest 45 seconds from your=20
life.
	Conserve that cats has no handles and add  fact that he now has/has
	soapy fur. His assert from shake has/has worn from and he's madder=20
than one wet
	hornet.
	=20
	7. Ace best, thou/you be allowed to, wearing welder's gloves,=20
experiment to field his body
	ace he catapults by  air to  cover. In case possible, donate
	other gush from Kitty Bubbles with his body now completely exposed.
	=20
	8. For  5 seconds thou/you am able to hold to he, rub
	vigorously. No needed to care about rinsing. Ace he the slide down=20
	glass enclosure to  tub, he be willing to fall back to  water,
	rinsing self in  procedure.
	=20
	9. Exclusively aspire  lather and gargle procedure about 3 occasion. =20
 cat
	be willing to understand  be lacking from traction at/to  glass to so=20
and be willing to use
	 afterwards aspire at/to  first available part from thou/you.
	=20
	10. Afterwards,  cat must be dried. No...that am/is NOT  easiest part.
	To that platform, thou/you am worn abroad and  cat has/has fair=20
becomes
	semi-permanently affixed to your right leg.  Us indicate here that=20
thou/you
	drain  tub and in complete view from your cat . acquire for  bottle=20
from
	Kitty Bubbles.
	=20
	11. In case thou/you has completed pace 10 correcting,  cat be=20
willing to be from your leg
	and hanging precariously than your helmet.  Though that view from=20
	cat am/is most disgusting, he be willing to be in one a lot of better=20
position for
	wrapping  towel at/to he.
	=20
	12. Be certain cat am/is firmly wrapped in towel before aperture tub
	enclosure. Open bathroom door .... lay towel wrapped cat at/to floor=20
and
	pace back fast. To tub, in case possible, and fabricate not open=20
enclosure
	until all thou/you be allowed to views am/is  shredded towel.
	=20
	13. In about 2 delay .... it be willing to be certain to exit =20
bathroom.  Your
	cat be willing to be sitting abroad behold/it anywhere looking=20
respect one diminutive hedgehog
	for plotting revenge.


Tolken97 costs $20US & takes millisecopnds to perform translations=20
between several languages.

_IF_ one of you German-speaking gentlemen would accept the task of=20
helping me get this vocabulary straightened out, I would be willing to=20
purchase you a copy Tolken97!

As with ALL translators I've lookd at, it is aimed at tourism, NOT=20
programming.  We can change that & have a decent translator for=20
software comments.

<G>
TomR.


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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
At 10:14 PM 12/10/99 +0200, you wrote:
>List Member "EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" <JoeHurst@snafu.de> wrote:
>> German grammer.  The German programmers use dialects instead of proper
>> German, so all translators shred the translations.
>Ey, stop it. If I take a look at any english source (or read some your mails),
>then it contains unknown shortcuts, cropped words, local dialect words,
>never-seen-types of comments - EVERY translater english->german breaks down
with
>that...
>BOTH sides are not perferct - but ALL translators want perfect input (for
sloopy
>output).
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>Bye, Joe
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"sloopy" output... hmmmmm, lemme mull that'un over a bit <G>.

I'm adding words to Tolken97 - words as I understand their meanings
as indicated by dictionaries, relation to other similar words, & the
general subject being discussed.  If I can get phrases ironed out too,
whooptidamndo!  I find that you guys use a _LOT_ of words that are
just one letter away from what is already in the vocabulary.  The last
letter you guys use is often NOT there in it or is different.  The
meanings appear to be very similar, so I'm going w/ them as _I_ 
understand'em.

I know a guy capable of writing a PDF=>RTF/RTM/TXT trasnslator.  Damn!
it isn;'t enopugh to have to figure out Word6 docs, now things show up
in Chinese/Greek, written in Arabic!
<G>
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List Member Thomas Gonschor <verwaltung@vph-bensberg.de> wrote:
Hi Everybody! :-)

Do someone has got an idea to write the name of a printer into a
string after using the "DLG PRINT"-dialog. As far as I know this
dialog do not change the entry for the default printer in the WIN.INI
sothat I can not read it with "GetProfileString".

Many thanks in advance

Yours
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<List Member Thomas Gonschor <verwaltung@vph-bensberg.de> wrote:
<Hi Everybody! :-)

<Do someone has got an idea to write the name of a printer into a
<string after using the "DLG PRINT"-dialog. As far as I know this
<dialog do not change the entry for the default printer in the WIN.INI
<sothat I can not read it with "GetProfileString".

<Many thanks in advance

<Yours
<Thomas


Hi Thomas,

Here a little example for reading the printer name
after you have select a new one.
This was a work from 10 minutes.
'
OPENW #1
hwnd& = WIN(1)
puffer$ = SPACE$(128)
'
CB (hwnd&), 0 TO -1 WndProc()
DLG PRINT 1, 0, dc&
'
DO
  GETEVENT
UNTIL ende! = TRUE
'
CLOSEW #1
END
'
PROCEDURE WndProc (hwnd&, iMsg&, wParam&, lParam%)
  '
  SWITCH iMsg&
    '
  CASE WM_ENTERIDLE
    IF wParam& = MSGF_DIALOGBOX
      /* lParam% is the dialogbox handle
      /* 1088 is the static-control id for the printer name (first control)
      /* first you see the actual printer
      /* after changing the printer in the second printer dialog
      /* you get the new printer name
      ~GetDlgItemText (lParam%, 1088, V:puffer$, 128)
      PRINT CHAR{V:puffer$}
    ENDIF
    RETVAL FALSE
    '
  CASE WM_CLOSE
    ende! = TRUE
    RETVAL FALSE
    '
  DEFAULT
    RETVAL DefWindowProc (hwnd&, iMsg&, wParam&, lParam%)
  ENDSWITCH
  '
RETURN


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List Member Thomas Gonschor <verwaltung@vph-bensberg.de> wrote:
Hi!

Has someone experiences in checking the printerport (e. g. LPT1:) for
a printer and if the printer is online? I want to write direct to the
port LPT1: by using

OPEN "LPT1:" AS #1
PRINT #1;"Hello!"
CLOSE #1

If the printer is offline I want the user to switch it on(line).

Many thanks in advance
Yours

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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
I've always found that this works well ...by Bev Brown

IF @printer_check
  DEFMOUSE 2
  OPEN "o",#2,"LPT1
  ...
  CLOSE #2
  DEFMOUSE 2
ELSE
  BEEP
  ? "Printer NOT ready!!!"
ENDIF

FUNCTION printer_check
  LOCAL i
  DO
    ~INTR($17,_AH = 2,_DX = i)
    EXIT IF BTST(_AH,4)
    i ++
  LOOP UNTIL i > 2
  ~INTR($17,_AH = 2,_DX = i)
  RETURN BTST(_AH,7)
ENDFUNC
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Hi!

Has someone experiences in checking the printerport (e. g. LPT1:) for
a printer and if the printer is online? I want to write direct to the
port LPT1: by using

OPEN "LPT1:" AS #1
PRINT #1;"Hello!"
CLOSE #1

If the printer is offline I want the user to switch it on(line).

Many thanks in advance
Yours

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
FULLW #1
IF @printer_check = TRUE
  PRINT "Printer Is Ready"
ELSE
  PRINT "Printer Not Ready"
ENDIF
KEYGET k%
CLOSEW #1
END


FUNCTION printer_check
  LOCAL i%
  DO
    ~INTR($17,_AH = 2,_DX = i%)
    EXIT IF BTST(_AH,4)
    i% ++
  LOOP UNTIL i% > 2
  ~INTR($17,_AH = 2,_DX = i%)
  RETURN BTST(_AH,7)
ENDFUNC


At 05:59 PM 13/10/99 +0100, you wrote:
>List Member Thomas Gonschor <verwaltung@vph-bensberg.de> wrote:
>Hi!
>
>Has someone experiences in checking the printerport (e. g. LPT1:) for
>a printer and if the printer is online? I want to write direct to the
>port LPT1: by using
>
>OPEN "LPT1:" AS #1
>PRINT #1;"Hello!"
>CLOSE #1
>
>If the printer is offline I want the user to switch it on(line).
>
>Many thanks in advance
>Yours
>
>Thomas
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List Member "Roland Walter" <roland@rowalt.de> wrote:
Hallo to everybody,
Some times ago I got the question how to make and
handle an "adult" window. - I mean a window created
with RegisterClass() and CreateWindow() and also
with message handling by GetMessage().
I don't remember who wrote me the mail and so
I think it's a good idea to set the listing into
this list (see attachement).
The example listing was made as a skeleton for
own applications. - I hope very clear arranged,
good commented and simple to understand.

Bye, Roland

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List Member "Roland Walter" <roland@rowalt.de> wrote:
For the printer check discussion:
For some reasons ist's also a good idea to use the direct
port access. Interrupt $17 is also good but this is the most
fast and direct way.
But keep in mind this will not work under NT!!!
The routine is for example good for egineers and electronic
fans who like to connect some digital components to the printer
port.

Bye Roland

OPENW #1
'The BIOS determines the hardware port addresses
'while system booting and stores them at fixed addresses
'There we can read them out. Most programmers don't know
'that they can simply ask the system for these addresses
'and the end-user has the terrific task to set values he
'cannot understand ;-)
'By the way: Don't mis-understand this: At the following
'addresses You will always find the correct addresses,
'even if they have untypical values.

adrPortLPT1&=WORD{$00400008}
adrPortLPT2&=WORD{$0040000A}
adrPortLPT3&=WORD{$0040000C}
PRINT "LPT1 port address: $"+HEX$(adrPortLPT1&,4)
'Note that the address is set to 0 if the port does not exist.
'
'And now (as an example activity) we put out some characters:
FOR i|=$41 TO $5A  'characters A...Z
  OUT| PORT adrPortLPT1&,i|
NEXT i|
PRINT "The characters A...Z should be printed out to LPT1 now"
'
'Now we ask the current LPT status bits and control bits.
'This is of course only the MOMENTLY status. You can make a
'loop if You like and put 5 Volts to some pins to see the result.
//DO
//  PEEKEVENT
  Status|=INP|(PORT adrPortLPT1&+1)  'get current status bits
  Control|=INP|(PORT adrPortLPT1&+2)  'get current control bits
  TEXT 20,20,BIN$(Status|,8)
  TEXT 20,40,BIN$(Control|,8)
//LOOP UNTIL MENU(1)=4

KEYGET Dummy%
CLOSEW #1
'
Status bits
0 Timeout
1 Unused
2 Unused
3 I/O error (Pin 15)
4 Selected (Pin 13)
5 Out of paper (Pin 12)
6 Acknowledge (Pin 10)
7 ^Busy (Pin 11)

 Control bits
 0 ^Strobe (Pin 1)
 1 ^Auto feed (Pin 14)
 2 Init printer (Pin 16)
 3 ^Select input (Pin 17)
 4 Interrupt on
 5 Bidirectional on
 6 Unused
 7 Unused

'More Information You will find in Ralf Brown's interrupt list
'wich You can find on several places in Internet (also as
'Windows Help file).

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List Member Engel Nobbe <bluez@celestial.demon.nl> wrote:


BDD wrote:

> List Member BDD <BrentDeck@compuserve.com> wrote:
> I could not duplicate your problem with RGB(0,0,0).
> However try the following program with and without line 2.
>
> Brent
>
> z% = RGB(0,0,0)
> z% = z% | $02000000   // line 2

Interesting. Could you tell me why you do it this way?


>
> OPENW #1
> RGBCOLOR z%
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List Member Engel Nobbe <bluez@celestial.demon.nl> wrote:
I had to laugh reading the last section with the back translation... And I always
thought those taiwanese authors were simply bet at writing english computer
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
At 09:42 AM 14/10/99 +0200, you wrote:
>List Member Engel Nobbe <bluez@celestial.demon.nl> wrote:
>I had to laugh reading the last section with the back translation... And I
always
>thought those taiwanese authors were simply bet at writing english computer
>manuals... now I know! They're using translation programs!!! :-)
>

Just in case of curiosity...
Tolken97 is written by a Swede.

His translation engine is the fastest I've seen & is for certain, no
less accurate that the others.  His dbs are all l-case - it decides
what must be capitalized.  The major problem I have with it is a 32,000
entry limit in the dbs.  I have one db that has ~150,000 entries.

I hope to hell the guy is alive - I paid for it & am supposed to get an
upgrade that can handle unlimited dbs.  He doesn't respond to e-mail in 
*any* language.

<G>
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List Member BDD <BrentDeck@compuserve.com> wrote:
>List Member Engel Nobbe <bluez@celestial.demon.nl> wrote:

>> List Member BDD <BrentDeck@compuserve.com> wrote:
>> I could not duplicate your problem with RGB(0,0,0).
>> However try the following program with and without line 2.
>>
>> Brent
>>
>> z% =3D RGB(0,0,0)
>> z% =3D z% | $02000000   // line 2

>Interesting. Could you tell me why you do it this way?

RGB(x,y,z) | $02000000 is the same as PALETTERGB(x,y,z).

Poorly documented by MS... this guarantees that if you are using a palett=
e
it will find the nearest =

match in the palette. =


If x,y, and z are all 0 it should not be necessary, but its worth a try.

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List Member BDD <BrentDeck@compuserve.com> wrote:
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Thanks guys, your input has been extremely useful and we seem to have
solved
the problem for most machines. =

<<

So what was the problem, and how did you fix it?

Curious,

Brent
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List Member BDD <BrentDeck@compuserve.com> wrote:
>Poorly documented by MS... this guarantees that if you are using a palet=
te
>it will find the nearest match in the palette. =


If you don't or the color value with $02000000, the api may look only in
the system palette (first 20 colors) for the nearest match. I would not
expect this to be a problem with RGB(0,0,0) but it is a problem with most=

other user defined colors.

Brent
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List Member "EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" <JoeHurst@snafu.de> wrote:
> His translation engine is the fastest I've seen & is for certain, no
> less accurate that the others.  His dbs are all l-case - it decides
> what must be capitalized.  The major problem I have with it is a 32,000
> entry limit in the dbs.  I have one db that has ~150,000 entries.
Please, be so kind and wait some more days - then I will release Xtrans, a small
translator with !no! words in the database. The first step is only a 1:1
translation - not the best, but an easy way. The commercial release will take
complete sentences/phrases. The main problem: I will do it with GFA-BASIC 32, so
everybody who wants to use it has to download the GFAWIN-32-OCX (less than 1 MB,
I'll put it on my homepage this weekend). The exe will be at 200 KB or so...

If ANYBODY has a free (!!!) dictionary, I would be very glad to take use of it
:-)  My intention is to build an unlimited database. Text will be loaded as
ascii and RTF (which will be converted into ascii).

The Visual Basic-release is about 700 KB (exclusive all runtime-libraries) and
quiet slow, so I change to GFA-BASIC 32 - but, as I said, this will take some
days...

XTrans will come with a switchable german AND english GUI, for all you out there
behind and before Australia :-))

Bye, Joe

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Do what you will with this - nobody wanted to help *me* with it.
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List Member "Bev & Lou Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
Can't seem to get this file, Tom, even if I go to your web page <???>

> http://TiGeR1.webjump.com/arcvs/ger6eng.zip

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List Member Thomas Gonschor <verwaltung@vph-bensberg.de> wrote:
Hi!

Many thanks to Dale, Tom and Roland for their good ideas! They were
very helpful!

>But keep in mind this will not work under NT!!!

Yes I know. This programm has to work under Win 3.1(x), Win95 and
Win98, so it is no problem. But - do you know a way to let my program
check for the OS? I use a method from Joe to check for Win3.1(x) and
Win95. Is there a way to check for Win98 and NT 3.x and 4.x?

Here is the routine form the BlackBox:

  ' Windows-Version
  LET W95! =3D FALSE
  dummi& =3D GetVersion()
  WINDOWS_VERSION$ =3D STR$(LOBYTE(dummi&)) + "." + STR$(HIBYTE(dummi&))
  IF LOBYTE(dummi&) >=3D 3 AND HIBYTE(dummi&) > 94 THEN LET W95! =3D TRUE
  ' DOS-Version ...
  ~INTR($21,_AH =3D $30)
  DOS_VERSION$ =3D STR$(LOBYTE(_AX)) + "." + STR$(HIBYTE(_AX))

Many thanks in advance
Yours

Thomas

P. S. After Testing the little FUNCTION I realized, that Win95 hangs
during checking the printer-port. I do not know why ...

FUNCTION printer_check
  LOCAL i%
  DO ---> In this loop the GFA-programm hangs ... <---
    ~INTR($17,_AH =3D 2,_DX =3D i%)
    EXIT IF BTST(_AH,4)
    i% ++
  LOOP UNTIL i% > 2
  ~INTR($17,_AH =3D 2,_DX =3D i%)
  RETURN BTST(_AH,7)
ENDFUNC

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Will have to recheck, Bev... Sorry.  Not available via the page,
is a hidden file.
<G>
TomR.

At 03:21 AM 15/10/99 -0400, you wrote:
>List Member "Bev & Lou Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
>Can't seem to get this file, Tom, even if I go to your web page <???>
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>> http://TiGeR1.webjump.com/arcvs/ger6eng.zip
>
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>P. S. After Testing the little FUNCTION I realized, that Win95 hangs
>during checking the printer-port. I do not know why ...
>
>FUNCTION printer_check
>  LOCAL i%
>  DO ---> In this loop the GFA-programm hangs ... <---
>    ~INTR($17,_AH = 2,_DX = i%)
>    EXIT IF BTST(_AH,4)
>    i% ++
>  LOOP UNTIL i% > 2
>  ~INTR($17,_AH = 2,_DX = i%)
>  RETURN BTST(_AH,7)
>ENDFUNC
>

Thos
Am running Win95a - no hangs.  Have seen something else, but will 
have to look for it.  Will send if nobody else picks up on this.
<G>
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
http://TiGeR1.webjump.com/arcvs/ger6eng.zip

I goofed!  Some servers can't handle ucase & somewhere in the line
of uploading files, some get a single capital, others are made full
ucase.

I've renamed the file online w/ all lcase & can download it.

Sorry.

TomR.

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List Member Jim Pennington <Jim@x-act.net> wrote:

Tom,

Will the following do what you want? If not, then I guess I must not
understand the question.  :)

Jim Pennington

**************************************************************

OPENW #4
SETTIMER 4,1,1000       //Start Timer #1
SETTIMER 4,2,3000       //Start Timer #2
CB WIN(4),WM_TIMER,proc_timer()
DO
  PEEKEVENT
UNTIL MENU(1)=4
CLOSEW #4
END

PROCEDURE proc_timer(hwnd&,msg&,wparam&,lparam&)
  SELECT wparam&
  CASE 1               //Process Timer #1
  KILLTIMER 4,1
  .
  .

  CASE 2               //Process Timer #2
  KILLTIMER 4,2
  .
  .

  ENDSELECT
  RETVAL 0
RETURN



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List Member "Eberhard Funck" <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de> wrote:

Yes I know. This programm has to work under Win 3.1(x), Win95 and
Win98, so it is no problem. But - do you know a way to let my program
check for the OS? I use a method from Joe to check for Win3.1(x) and
Win95. Is there a way to check for Win98 and NT 3.x and 4.x?


Checking for all:

  ' Only working in compiled status

  a% = GetVersion ()
  IF HIBYTE (LOWORD (a%)) = 95 && HIBYTE (HIWORD (a%))
    w9598! = TRUE
  ELSE IF HIBYTE (LOWORD (a%)) = 10
    IF !LOBYTE (HIWORD (a%))
     nt! = TRUE
    ELSE IF LOBYTE (HIWORD (a%))
      w31! = TRUE
    ENDIF
  ENDIF

Greetings

Eberhard


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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
OPENW #4

SETTIMER 4,1,1000

Starts a timer with ID of 1 in window 4. The first 	WM_TIMER-message 
is created after one second.

So far, so good.  BUT...

OPENW #4

SETTIMER 4,1,1000
SETTIMER 4,2,3000

After the event(s) using TIMER 1, how to make TIMER 2 kick into play?  I 
wish to time 2 or 3 (or 4) separate events.  As each TIMER's events are
completed, it is killed.  WM_TIMER won't accept a TIMER designation for
me... how to do this, please.
<G>
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===================================================================
 I found a way to create MemDCs in GFA-Basic 32
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 The CreateCompatibleDC() Command in GB32 has the same Function as
 the MEMDC()Command in Gfa-Basic 16-Bit
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Auto a%, h%, hbm1%, hbo1%, mdc1%, scrn%, w%
OpenW NoTitle Fixed 1, 0, 0, 800, 600
w% = 2000
h% = 2000
scrn% = _DC(1)
mdc1% = CreateCompatibleDC(scrn%)
hbm1% = CreateCompatibleBitmap(scrn%, w%, h%)
hbo1% = SelectObject(mdc1%, hbm1%)
Draw 0, 0 To 800, 800
Draw 800, 0 To 0, 800
BitBlt scrn%, 0, 0, 600, 600, mdc1%, 0, 0, $00CC0020
Do
  '
  ' \/  \/  Crash Protection  \/ \/
  For a% = 0 To 500
    PeekEvent
  Next a%
  ' /\  /\  Crash Protection  /\ /\
  '
  BitBlt mdc1%, MouseX, MouseY, 800, 600, scrn%, 0, 0, $00CC0020
  Exit If MouseK <> 0
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~SelectObject(mdc1%, hbo1%)
FreeBmp hbm1%
~DeleteDC(mdc1%)
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<br><font color="#006600">&nbsp;I found a way to create MemDCs in GFA-Basic
32</font>
<br><font color="#006600">===================================================================</font>
<br><font color="#006600">&nbsp;The CreateCompatibleDC() Command in GB32
has the same Function as</font>
<br><font color="#006600">&nbsp;the MEMDC()Command in Gfa-Basic 16-Bit</font>
<br><font color="#006600">===================================================================</font>
<br>Auto a%, h%, hbm1%, hbo1%, mdc1%, scrn%, w%
<br>OpenW NoTitle Fixed 1, 0, 0, 800, 600
<br>w% = 2000
<br>h% = 2000
<br>scrn% = _DC(1)
<br>mdc1% = CreateCompatibleDC(scrn%)
<br>hbm1% = CreateCompatibleBitmap(scrn%, w%, h%)
<br>hbo1% = SelectObject(mdc1%, hbm1%)
<br>Draw 0, 0 To 800, 800
<br>Draw 800, 0 To 0, 800
<br>BitBlt scrn%, 0, 0, 600, 600, mdc1%, 0, 0, $00CC0020
<br>Do
<br>&nbsp; '
<br>&nbsp; ' \/&nbsp; \/&nbsp; Crash Protection&nbsp; \/ \/
<br>&nbsp; For a% = 0 To 500
<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; PeekEvent
<br>&nbsp; Next a%
<br>&nbsp; ' /\&nbsp; /\&nbsp; Crash Protection&nbsp; /\ /\
<br>&nbsp; '
<br>&nbsp; BitBlt mdc1%, MouseX, MouseY, 800, 600, scrn%, 0, 0, $00CC0020
<br>&nbsp; Exit If MouseK &lt;> 0
<br>Loop
<br>~SelectObject(mdc1%, hbo1%)
<br>FreeBmp hbm1%
<br>~DeleteDC(mdc1%)
<br>CloseW 1
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List Member "franz-xaver.schweiger" <franz-xaver.schweiger@debitel.net> wrote:
Does Anyone know the Parameters and Funktion of follow
undocumented Commands?

v = CreateDIBitmap(a, b, c, d, e, f)
v = CreateDIBSection(a, b, c, d, e, f)
v = CreateDC(a, b, c, d)
~MaskBlt(d, x, y, w, h, d, x, y, d, x, y, m)
~PlgBlt(d, x, y, w, h, d, x, y, m, m)
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
From: Pat Bullman <pbullman@norex.com.au>
Subject: [gfabasic] WM_TIMER

Tom,

> WM_TIMER won't accept a TIMER designation for
me... how to do this, please.

The _wParam contains the timer ID value.

Pat
The only thing I can find that might allow your response is in Dale's
helpfile & it does NOTHING for me but print that there are no msgs.
Nothing I do makes any difference in that example.

If going *that* route instead of the GFA-W(16) commands & functions is
the only way to select different timers, then I'm up the creek w/ no paddle.
I can't make heads or tails of that example.

Thanks, tho.
<G>
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List Member "Roland Walter" <roland@rowalt.de> wrote:
Hallo to all,

Because Microsoft has consequently ignored all
questions by GFA to get a licence of the
Win32 SDK they could not put the API information
at the GFA32 CD.

O.K., here are two sources where You can get it:

1.) The Homepage of the free C for Win32
    "LCC-Win32". The compiler package at this page
    contains the API header files and there is
    a also a separate Windows help file for the API.
    http://www.cs.virginia.edu/~lcc-win32

2.) Here is an other site where You also can get
    the API help file, packet into 4 ZIP files.
    http://www.crackstore.com/tools.htm

Bye, Roland

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List Member "Eberhard Funck" <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de> wrote:


>OPENW #4
>
>SETTIMER 4,1,1000
>
>Starts a timer with ID of 1 in window 4. The first WM_TIMER-message 
>is created after one second.
>
>So far, so good.  BUT...
>
>OPENW #4
>
>SETTIMER 4,1,1000
>SETTIMER 4,2,3000
>
>After the event(s) using TIMER 1, how to make TIMER 2 kick into play?  I 
>wish to time 2 or 3 (or 4) separate events.  As each TIMER's events are
>completed, it is killed.  WM_TIMER won't accept a TIMER designation for
>me... how to do this, please.


Hi Tom,

Try this please:

OPENW #4
SETTIMER 4,1,1000
SETTIMER 4,2,3000
'
DO
  GETEVENT
  SELECT _Mess
  CASE WM_TIMER
    SELECT _wParam
    CASE 1
      PRINT "Timer 1 activ"
    CASE 2
      PRINT "Timer 2 activ"
    ENDSELECT /* _wParam
  ENDSELECT /* _Mess
UNTIL MENU(1) = 4
'
KILLTIMER 4, 1
KILLTIMER 4, 2
CLOSEW #4
END

Greetings

Eberhard


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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Jim, Pat...
This *looks* like it fits Pat's response.  Thank you very much... I'll
give this a try.  I doubt I'll find this wrong - the "try" is on *my*
part to get it to do what it appears to <G>.

I have tried numerous arrangements without getting anything like what
I really wanted.  I even tried setting #2 after #1 had been killed.
It seems that the SETTIMER statements all have to be immediately after
opening the window.

Boy, do I hate being an amateur programmer!  I often know what I want
to accomplish & often, even something about how to get there.  Details
clobber me left & right sometimes.  In this case, I want several timed
events to happen, each after the preceeding one has finished.  You
should see some of the results I've come up with <G>.  It's enough to
make me wanna sit down & cry!

Thanks very much for your help, Guys.  It is truly appreciated.
<G>
TomR.



At 01:21 PM 15/10/99 PST, you wrote:
>List Member Jim Pennington <Jim@x-act.net> wrote:
>
>Tom,
>
>Will the following do what you want? If not, then I guess I must not
>understand the question.  :)
>
>Jim Pennington
>
>**************************************************************
>
>OPENW #4
>SETTIMER 4,1,1000       //Start Timer #1
>SETTIMER 4,2,3000       //Start Timer #2
>CB WIN(4),WM_TIMER,proc_timer()
>DO
>  PEEKEVENT
>UNTIL MENU(1)=4
>CLOSEW #4
>END
>
>PROCEDURE proc_timer(hwnd&,msg&,wparam&,lparam&)
>  SELECT wparam&
>  CASE 1               //Process Timer #1
>  KILLTIMER 4,1
>  .
>  .
>
>  CASE 2               //Process Timer #2
>  KILLTIMER 4,2
>  .
>  .
>
>  ENDSELECT
>  RETVAL 0
>RETURN
>
>
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List Member "franz-xaver.schweiger" <franz-xaver.schweiger@debitel.net> wrote:
Why can GB32 not handle with large Bitmaps?
The Limit is only 16 MegaBytes:
-Loading Images (Bitmaps) with more than 16MB don't work.
-Limit of MemDC size if only 16MB.

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Subject: [gfabasic] Unknown Bitmap Commands
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List Member David Clouter <DaveClouter@compuserve.com> wrote:
>>List Member "franz-xaver.schweiger" <franz-xaver.schweiger@debitel.net>=

wrote:
>>Does Anyone know the Parameters and Funktion of follow
>>undocumented Commands?

I have details of some of those undocumented commands, others that seem
related are listed below.  If useful, and you would like the details, I
would prefer to e-mail you (quite big!) scanned images personally, rather=

than posting nnMb to the mailing list!, since my typing is not very quick=
!

                CreateDIBitmap()
[creates a device dependent bitmap in memory, out of a device independeny=

bitmap]

hbit&   =3D       CreateDIBitmap(hdc&,addr_infohead%,usage%,addr_initbits=
%,
                addr_initinfo%,coltype&)
hbit&           bitmap handle of NULL if not successful
hdc&            DC handle
addr_infohead%  address of BITMAPINFOHEADER data structure which
                contains the size and format of the device independent
bitmap
usage%          indicates whether or not the bitmap should be initialised=

addr_initbits%  address of byte array of data used to initialise the bitm=
ap
addr_initinfo%  address of BITMAPINFO data structure
coltype&                type of colour table in a bmiColors[] array with
the following =

                possible values:
        DIB_RGB_COLORS(0)       colour table contains RGB values
        DIB_PAL_COLORS(1)       colour table contains indices into curren=
t
                                colour palette

Associated (?) commands:
        GetDIBits() function
        SetDIBits() function
        SetDIBitsToDevice() function
        StretchDIBits() function

                CreateDC
[creates a memory DC that is compatible with the device specified in the
passed parameter]

hdc&    =3D       CreateDC(addr_drvname%,addr_devname%,addr_outp%,
                addr_initial%)
hdc&            DC handle or NULL if unsuccessful
addr_drvname%   address of null terminated string containing the device
driver
                DOS filename without extension
addr_devname%   address of null terminated string containing the name of
the
                supported device (e.g. Keyboard)
addr_outp%      address of null terminated string containing the DOS
filename
                (e.g. ANYTHING.OUT) or a device description (e.g. COM1:)
addr_initial%   address of DEVMODE data structure that contains
initialisation
                data for the device driver. If the parameter is null, the=

standars
                initialisation specified in the Control Panel is used

Associated (?) commands:
        CreateCompatibleDC() function
        CreateIC() function
        DeleteDC() function
        GetDCOrg() function
        RestoreDC() function
        SaveDC() function
        =

                SetStretchBitMode()
[sets the scaling mode which determines how the bitmaps are scaled when
using =

the StretchBlt function]

oldmode&        =3D       SetStretchBltMode(hdc&,newmode&)
oldmode&                old scaling mode
hdc&            device context handle
newmode&        new scaling mode, which like the old one, can have the
following
                possible values:
                BLACKONWHITE(1)
                        black pixels remain set
                WHITEONBLACK(2)
                        white pixels remain set
                COLORONCOLOR(3)
                        all pixels are reset
Associated (?) commands:
        GetBkColor() function
        GetBkMode() function
        GetPolyFillMode() function
        GetROP2() function
        GetTextColor() function
        SetBkColor() function
        SetBkMode() function
        SetPolyFillMode() function
        SetROP2() function
        SetTextColor() function

Sadly, I have no information on CreateDIBSection, ~MaskBlt, or ~PlgBlt

Hope the above is of some use, please mail me at
DaveClouter@Compuserve.com, if you would like details of any of the
associated(?) functions

Dave
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List Member John Findlay <Jayef@compuserve.com> wrote:

List Member David Clouter <DaveClouter@compuserve.com> wrote:

> Sadly, I have no information on CreateDIBSection, ~MaskBlt, or ~PlgBlt =
<

Dave, and anyone else who needs Win32 stuff!

The information for the new 32 bit API's is included in Win32 API help
file.

Roland Walter kindly sent the following message explaining where to get t=
he
32 bit API help file and header files as well;

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
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O.K., here are two sources where You can get it:

1.) The Homepage of the free C for Win32
    "LCC-Win32". The compiler package at this page
    contains the API header files and there is
    a also a separate Windows help file for the API.
    http://www.cs.virginia.edu/~lcc-win32

2.) Here is an other site where You also can get
    the API help file, packet into 4 ZIP files.
    http://www.crackstore.com/tools.htm

Bye, Roland
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List Member Micromiser Software <miser@cde.com> wrote:
At 10:51 AM 10/15/99 +0100, you wrote:
>List Member Thomas Gonschor <verwaltung@vph-bensberg.de> wrote:
>
>P. S. After Testing the little FUNCTION I realized, that Win95 hangs
>during checking the printer-port. I do not know why ...
>
>FUNCTION printer_check
>  LOCAL i%
>  DO ---> In this loop the GFA-programm hangs ... <---
>    ~INTR($17,_AH = 2,_DX = i%)
>    EXIT IF BTST(_AH,4)
>    i% ++
>  LOOP UNTIL i% > 2
>  ~INTR($17,_AH = 2,_DX = i%)
>  RETURN BTST(_AH,7)
>ENDFUNC
>
>-----------------

Hi Thomas,

Here is part of a message I posted back in August. The code is derived from
the printer routine in my database program. The printer test has worked so
far on W3.1/W95/W98 systems. Hope this helps.

GOSUB LPRINT("Print me and end this line with CRLF")
GOSUB LPRINT("Print me but don't add a CRLF;")
GOSUB LPRINT("Add this to the previous line.")

PROCEDURE LPRINT(dummy$) 
  LOCAL AH|
  ~INTR($17,_AH=2,_DX=0) 'Stolen from GFAWHELP <G>
  AH|=_AH
  IF BTST(AH|,7) = FALSE THEN
    IF AH|<>16 AND AH|<>80 THEN 'Avoid false errors
      'Handle printer not ready
    ENDIF
  ENDIF
  OPEN "O",#0,"LPT1"
  IF RIGHT$(dummy$,1)=";" THEN
    IF dummy$<>";" THEN
      ? #0,LEFT$(dummy$,LEN(dummy$)-1);
    ENDIF
  ELSE
    ? #0,dummy$
  ENDIF
  CLOSE #0
RETURN

-----
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List Member Michael Weigand <michael-weigand@foni.net> wrote:
Hi!

I got my copy of GFA-Basic 32 today. I see that it isn't finished now, but
I knew that before. I tried to load some GFA16 source files and was able to
let them run after a few modifications. 

I have a question about the RCS: How do I use forms that were created with
the RCS? I found no demo file and nothing in the help files...


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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Bless you, Eberhard!  Pat & Jim tried to get me here, but I suspect
that I am at a very dense moment.  I do very little yet by "API",
but am trying to learn so I can convert over.  Your example is very
sorely missing from the helpfiles & is very probably exactly what
Pat intended originally.

Thank you, Guys!, thank you.
<G>
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At 09:57 AM 16/10/99 +0200, you wrote:
>List Member "Eberhard Funck" <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de> wrote:
>
>
>>OPENW #4
>>
>>SETTIMER 4,1,1000
>>
>>Starts a timer with ID of 1 in window 4. The first WM_TIMER-message 
>>is created after one second.
>>
>>So far, so good.  BUT...
>>
>>OPENW #4
>>
>>SETTIMER 4,1,1000
>>SETTIMER 4,2,3000
>>
>>After the event(s) using TIMER 1, how to make TIMER 2 kick into play?  I 
>>wish to time 2 or 3 (or 4) separate events.  As each TIMER's events are
>>completed, it is killed.  WM_TIMER won't accept a TIMER designation for
>>me... how to do this, please.
>
>
>Hi Tom,
>
>Try this please:
>
>OPENW #4
>SETTIMER 4,1,1000
>SETTIMER 4,2,3000
>'
>DO
>  GETEVENT
>  SELECT _Mess
>  CASE WM_TIMER
>    SELECT _wParam
>    CASE 1
>      PRINT "Timer 1 activ"
>    CASE 2
>      PRINT "Timer 2 activ"
>    ENDSELECT /* _wParam
>  ENDSELECT /* _Mess
>UNTIL MENU(1) = 4
>'
>KILLTIMER 4, 1
>KILLTIMER 4, 2
>CLOSEW #4
>END
>
>Greetings
>
>Eberhard
>
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List Member "EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" <JoeHurst@snafu.de> wrote:
> I have a question about the RCS: How do I use forms that were created with
> the RCS? I found no demo file and nothing in the help files...
There _are_ some demofiles with forms :-)

- Create a form
- change to editor:
LoadForm frm1 (<- your form-name)
Do
  Sleep
Until Me Is Nothing

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List Member Michael Weigand <michael-weigand@foni.net> wrote:
>List Member "EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" <JoeHurst@snafu.de> wrote:

>There _are_ some demofiles with forms :-)

But _where_ are they? I haven't found any where the forms are made with the
RCS.

>- Create a form
>- change to editor:
>LoadForm frm1 (<- your form-name)
>Do
>  Sleep
>Until Me Is Nothing

Thanks. I haven't found LoadForm in the help file...


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Ok - licked the timer situation... Millions of thanks!

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Who can I get the Number of free WAVE-Streams with the MCI-Commands?

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List Member Michael Weigand <michael-weigand@foni.net> wrote:
Hi!

Is there a way to add a menu bar to a form using the RCS? 


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List Member "Eberhard Funck" <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de> wrote:


>List Member Michael Weigand <michael-weigand@foni.net> wrote:
>Hi!
>
>Is there a way to add a menu bar to a form using the RCS? 
>
>
>M!chael


Hi Michael,

Dialogbox with a menu is a bad think, in 16 or in 32bit applications.
A dialogbox is only a helpfull window for changing somethink in your
application.

A good app. has allways a original window.
If you implement a menubar in a dialogbox, you have allways
a little transparent line between titlebar an menubar.

Work allways with windows and not only with dialogboxes.

Greetings

Eberhard


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List Member John Findlay <Jayef@compuserve.com> wrote:


Hello Eberhard,

> Is there a way to add a menu bar to a form using the RCS? <

> Dialogbox with a menu is a bad think, in 16 or in 32bit applications. A=

dialogbox is only a helpfull window for changing somethink in your
application.<

A 'form', I believe, can be the applications window or a dialog box.

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M.S. SDK.
A Form object is a window or dialog box that makes up part of an
application's user interface.
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List Member "Eberhard Funck" <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de> wrote:
>Hello Eberhard,

> Is there a way to add a menu bar to a form using the RCS? <

> Dialogbox with a menu is a bad think, in 16 or in 32bit applications. A
dialogbox is only a helpfull window for changing somethink in your
application.<

A 'form', I believe, can be the applications window or a dialog box.

==============================
M.S. SDK.
A Form object is a window or dialog box that makes up part of an
application's user interface.
==============================


>John

Hallo John,

I wait of my GFA32.
I think, I must learn very much about GFA32.

I hope, that I can work also only with API-functions
like you and I have done with GFA16.

I must look.

Greetings

Eberhard



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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
All,
I have started a new GB32HELP Windows help file. I have no idea when the
first copy will be released as I do not have GB32. Hopefully, the English
version will be available soon.
If you have GFA32 please send any  routines that I could include in the
GB32HELP file. As with GFAWHELP, the success of GB32HELP will depend on
programmers who are willing to contribute routines. Also, a news
letter -GB32NXXX is in the planning stages.  Although I have no idea when
the first publish date will be I will get it out as soon as possible.  I'm
sure that you understand that  it is hard to collect material when the
language is so new.  Again I ask for your contributions.
Remember, these publications are for you. Hopefully, we all can share so
that we may all learn the ins and outs of GFA32.
Collecting material and maintaining these publications takes up most of my
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List Member Michael Weigand <michael-weigand@foni.net> wrote:
>List Member "Eberhard Funck" <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de> wrote:

>I wait of my GFA32.
>I think, I must learn very much about GFA32.

There is a new way to handle forms, controls and so on. Once you've
realized how this is done, you'll like it. 

Take checkboxes for example: These objects have a value that you can
address as chkExample.Value (where Value is 0 or 1) and so you don't need a
variable to store the status checked or unchecked. You'll need much less code.

>I hope, that I can work also only with API-functions
>like you and I have done with GFA16.

That's why I waited for GFA32 and didn't use VB. With GFA32 I have access
to most of the 32 bit API, although there comes no information about the
functions with GFA32. 

And converting old 16 bit sources to GFA32 is quite easy.


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List Member "EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" <JoeHurst@snafu.de> wrote:
> Is there a way to add a menu bar to a form using the RCS?
The RCS currently supports no menubar-construction. If you want a menu in a
form, you have to use one of the old ways.

Bye, Joe


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List Member "EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" <JoeHurst@snafu.de> wrote:
Hi Michael,
if you have problems of finding expressions in (text)files, take a look at my
XIndex-application (german AND english user-interface). Here are the results for
LoadForm (the path doesn't matter - I just copied the examples of the
installation onto my programming-drive):

d:\gfa32\Samples\Bitmaps\SplashScreen.g32
d:\gfa32\Samples\CAPI\CallIdent.g32
d:\gfa32\Samples\CONTROLS\AnimCtrl\AnimCtrl.g32
d:\gfa32\Samples\CONTROLS\HotkeyCtrl\HotkeyCtrl.g32
d:\gfa32\Samples\CONTROLS\ListDIr.g32
d:\gfa32\Samples\CONTROLS\Listview.g32
d:\gfa32\Samples\Forms\0.g32
d:\gfa32\Samples\Forms\CloseChild\CloseChild.g32
d:\gfa32\Samples\Listbox\ListBox.g32
d:\gfa32\Samples\Listbox\ListBox-Multiselect.g32
d:\gfa32\Samples\Mouse\mouse_event\mouse_event-demo.g32
d:\gfa32\Samples\RTF-Control\rtf1.g32
d:\gfa32\Samples\ShortCut\StartMenu.g32
d:\gfa32\Samples\Single Instance\ActivateInst.g32
d:\gfa32\Samples\Single Instance\SingleInst.g32
d:\gfa32\Samples\Win32 API\SysHotkey\SysHotkey.g32

Bye, Joe

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List Member "EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" <JoeHurst@snafu.de> wrote:
> address as chkExample.Value (where Value is 0 or 1)
Or 2 :-)

> and so you don't need a variable to store the status checked or unchecked.
??? Why must there be _no_ variable? If you close the form (dialog OR window =
form), you always need a variable to save the value of a control - even in
GFA16, Delphi, Visual Basic)...

The new object-concept of GFA-BASIC 32 is easier to handle as in GFA16, because
every control in a form can be accessed via the
"<name>.<property>/<method>"-syntax. This makes complicated API-functions or
callbacks in almost any case useless, e.g. to find out which entry of a listbox
has been selected, or which value a radio-button has - even in runtime.

>You'll need much less code.
Yeah! Very much less than every before.

> That's why I waited for GFA32 and didn't use VB. With GFA32 I have access to
most of the 32 bit API
That is a silly argument, sorry. GFA32 supports the same syntax as Visual Basic
to import API-functions. As a "plus", GFA32 has many of the standard
API-functions of "USER" and "SHELL" build-in, but if you want to use MAPI, or
shell-operations ("Browse for folder"), you have to import the API-functions as
if you would use Visual Basic - or GFA16.

> And converting old 16 bit sources to GFA32 is quite easy.
Simple sources - yes, quiet easy. But bigger thinks with callbacks, or DDE ...

Bye, Joe

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Subject: RE: [gfabasic] GFA32: How to add a menu bar?
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List Member Michael Weigand <michael-weigand@foni.net> wrote:
>List Member "EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" <JoeHurst@snafu.de> wrote:

>> and so you don't need a variable to store the status checked or unchecked.
>??? Why must there be _no_ variable? If you close the form (dialog OR
window =
>form), you always need a variable to save the value of a control - even in
>GFA16, Delphi, Visual Basic)...

Maybe I wrote some rubbish...

In my first code I simple wrote the value to a file like this:

Sub chkSymbol_Click
  ~WritePrivateProfileString("Options", "Example",  Str$(chkExample),
inifile$)
End Sub

>The new object-concept of GFA-BASIC 32 is easier to handle as in GFA16, 
>because eery control in a form can be accessed via the 
><name>.<property>/<method>"-syntax. This makes complicated API-functions or
>callbacks in almost any case useless, e.g. to find out which entry of a 
>listbox has been selected, or which value a radio-button has - even in 
>runtime.

That's what I tried to say.

>As a "plus", GFA32 has many of the standard
>API-functions of "USER" and "SHELL" build-in

These are the functions that I use most often.

>but if you want to use MAPI, or shell-operations ("Browse for folder"), you 
>have to import the API-functions as if you would use Visual Basic - or GFA16.

I never needed to use them until today. Maybe in the future.

>> And converting old 16 bit sources to GFA32 is quite easy.
>Simple sources - yes, quiet easy. But bigger thinks with callbacks, or DDE
...

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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Would some using NT verify this??
Dale

____________________
FULLW #1
IF  (GetVersion() <  $80000000) // Windows NT
  PRINT "Windows NT"
ELSE
  PRINT "Windows 9.x"  // windows 9.x
ENDIF
KEYGET k
CLOSEW #1
END

http://gfawhelp.gfa.net
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List Member Jim Pennington <Jim@x-act.net> wrote:

Hi all,

In converting to GFAWin(16) I was testing some code to handle screen redraws,
etc., and used the following snippet. When I originally typed it in, I
made a mistake, but it worked. When I fixed it, it didn't. It doesn't
seem to work as it should and you guys should just be able to say "Oh,
you dummy... here's what's wrong". Right?    :)

The idea here is to open a visible window and an invisible window, print to the
invisible, then blit to the visible. The sole function of this code was to test
my understanding of the instructions involved.

OPENW #1
hBmp&=CREATEBMP(_X,_Y)
mdc&=MEMDC(_DC(1))
SETBMP mdc&,hBmp&
SETDC mdc&
CLS
FOR =1 TO 20
  PRINT "THIS IS LINE NUMBER ";i
NEXT i
KEYGET a%                                    //should see blank screen until keypress
~BitBlt(_DC(1),0,0,_X,_Y,mdc&,0,0,SRCCOPY)   //this works, but shouldn't?
'~BitBlt(mdc&,0,0,_X,_Y,_DC(1),0,0,SRCCOPY)  //this doesn't, but should?
KEYGET a%                                    //should see text until keypress
FREEDC mdc&
FREEBMP(hBmp&)
CLOSEW #1

As always, thanks in advance for your help,

Jim Pennington
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List Member Jim Pennington <Jim@x-act.net> wrote:

Arrrrrggggggh! The program I'm debugging (which works) is using BITBLT and that
snippet was a "cut and Paste" from the help file (or something)! What I was
originally trying to test there was alignment of the bitmaps when the screen is
scrolling and the memdc is bigger than the visible screen (you need to align the
lower left corners instead of the origins). I got sidetracked by BitBlt() being
reversed.

By the way, I normally don't mix GFA and API commands, I just missed that one.
Since your eyes are so sharp today, how about this?:

OPENW #1,3,3,_X,_Y,-1
CLS
FOR i=1 TO 40
  PRINT "This is line number ";i
NEXT i
KEYGET a%
CLOSEW #1

"This is line number 40" shows twice at the bottom of the screen. If you change
3,3 to 0,0 it only shows once. ?????

Thanks again for your help,

Jim Pennington
jim@x-act.net


> List Member Anthony Watson
<awatson@pacifier.com> wrote: > Jim, 
>    
> > ~BitBlt(_DC(1),0,0,_X,_Y,mdc&,0,0,SRCCOPY)   //this works, but shouldn't? 
> > '~BitBlt(mdc&,0,0,_X,_Y,_DC(1),0,0,SRCCOPY)  //this doesn't, but should? 
>    
> This is one of the confusing parts of trying to work partly with Windows 
> API, and partly with GFA's internal routines. 
>    
> GFA has the command BITBLT which takes the source first, then the 
> destination. 
>  
> Windows API on the other hand has the BitBlt function that takes the 
> destination first, then the source. 
>  
> Don't ask me why GFA reversed them, as it makes things confusing, but 
> that's the way it is. 
>  
> I recommend sticking with the Windows API version. It should be slightly 
> faster, and less confusing if you don't try mixing the two versions...




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List Member "Eberhard Funck" <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de> wrote:
>____________________
>FULLW #1
>IF  (GetVersion() <  $80000000) // Windows NT
>  PRINT "Windows NT"
>ELSE
>  PRINT "Windows 9.x"  // windows 9.x
>ENDIF
>KEYGET k
>CLOSEW #1
>END


Hi Dale,

It works under NT4.0, if you compile this little demo
and run the exe-file.

Greetings

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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Thanks Eberhard, I knew you would come through for me.
http://gfawhelp.gfa.net
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Subject: Re: [gfabasic] NT


> List Member "Eberhard Funck" <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de> wrote:
> >____________________
> >FULLW #1
> >IF  (GetVersion() <  $80000000) // Windows NT
> >  PRINT "Windows NT"
> >ELSE
> >  PRINT "Windows 9.x"  // windows 9.x
> >ENDIF
> >KEYGET k
> >CLOSEW #1
> >END
>
>
> Hi Dale,
>
> It works under NT4.0, if you compile this little demo
> and run the exe-file.
>
> Greetings
>
> Eberhard
>
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
I goofed last night.  If I set my display to 800x600, it shrinks to the upper
left 2/3s of the screen & paints the rest black.  So... I tried 1024x725 (or
whatever it is) & now all I have are lines & squiggles.  I'm running 16-bit
color - that *may* be the problem.

I'm running a 5.1G HD that has a BIOS overlay.  Until last night, I was never 
able to boot to DOS (I'm running ProgMan, NOT Explorer as shell).  I got past
the DOS-boot problem, but can't get DOS to attrib the registry files so I can
copy another, earlier version to them.  All I get is "can't find" or, in a 
few instances, "Access Denied".  The following works w/ the OEM HD, but not
w/ the new one.

attrib -h -r -s c:\windows\system.dat
copy c:\zkeep\080899\system.dat c:\windows\system.dat
attrib +h +r +s c:\windows\system.dat

attrib -h -r -s c:\windows\user.dat
copy c:\zkeep\080899\user.dat c:\windows\user.dat
attrib +h +r +s c:\windows\user.dat

For some idiotic reason I can't slave either HD to the other - it's one or
the other any way I go - never both.

Would really appreciate somebody leading me back into the light on this!
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Hi everybody!

How can I handle then Com-Ports with API32?

I need to open a Com-Port with "9600,N,8,1" for a RS485 card.
In GFA16 it was very simple with OpenComm, BuildComm, ReadComm and =
WriteComm.
I have no knowledge about API32.

I will be very pleased for any help!

Gunnar=20




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<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Hi everybody!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>How can I handle then Com-Ports with =

API32?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>I need to open a Com-Port with =
&quot;9600,N,8,1&quot; for a=20
RS485 card.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>In GFA16 it was very simple with OpenComm, =
BuildComm, ReadComm=20
and WriteComm.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>I have no knowledge about API32.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>I will be very pleased for any help!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Gunnar&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
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Try the following:

'This is needed for the init of COM!
DIM DCB|(64) ' Create Device Control Block (DCB)
port& =3D OpenComm(LEFT$(schnitt$,4),512,512) ' COM init, TX- and RX- =
Buffer 512 Byte
port& =3D VAL(MID$(schnitt$,4,1)) - 1 'Only if NO (!!!) error handling!
dcb& =3D BuildCommDCB(schnitt$ + baudrate$ + ",N,8,1",V:DCB|(0)) 'The =
baud rate has to be correct!!!
state& =3D SetCommState(V:DCB|(0)) 'Set State of COM to the created DCB

'To write to com:
zeichen$ =3D CHR$(211) + CHR$(13) 'Write anything to the var.
~WriteComm(port&,V:zeichen$,LEN(zeichen$)) 'Output the var

To read from com (in a loop), just a primitive example:
DO
zeichen$ =3D SPACE$(100)
e& =3D ReadComm(port&,V:zeichen$,20)
IF zeichen$ !=3D "" THEN zeichen$ =3D LEFT$(zeichen$,e&)
LOOP UNTIL zeichen$ !=3D ""


This is just an example of how to open, write and read the com, but it =
should work... :)

Bye,
 Georg

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Try the following:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>'This is needed for the init of =
COM!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>DIM DCB|(64)&nbsp;' Create Device =
Control Block=20
(DCB)<BR>port&amp; =3D OpenComm(LEFT$(schnitt$,4),512,512)&nbsp;' COM =
init, TX-=20
and RX- Buffer&nbsp;512 Byte<BR>port&amp; =3D VAL(MID$(schnitt$,4,1)) -=20
1&nbsp;'Only if NO (!!!) error handling!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>dcb&amp; =3D BuildCommDCB(schnitt$ + =
baudrate$ +=20
",N,8,1",V:DCB|(0))&nbsp;'The baud rate has to be =
correct!!!<BR>state&amp; =3D=20
SetCommState(V:DCB|(0))&nbsp;'Set State of COM to the=20
created&nbsp;DCB</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>'To write to com:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>zeichen$ =3D CHR$(211) + CHR$(13) =
'Write anything to=20
the var.<BR>~WriteComm(port&amp;,V:zeichen$,LEN(zeichen$))&nbsp;'Output =
the=20
var<BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>To read from com (in a loop), just a =
primitive=20
example:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>DO<BR>zeichen$ =3D =
SPACE$(100)<BR>e&amp; =3D=20
ReadComm(port&amp;,V:zeichen$,20)<BR>IF zeichen$ !=3D "" THEN zeichen$ =
=3D=20
LEFT$(zeichen$,e&amp;)<BR>LOOP UNTIL zeichen$ !=3D ""</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This is just an example of how to open, =
write and=20
read the com, but it should work... :)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Bye,</FONT></DIV>
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List Member Anthony Watson <awatson@pacifier.com> wrote:
Jim,

> ~BitBlt(_DC(1),0,0,_X,_Y,mdc&,0,0,SRCCOPY)   //this works, but shouldn't?
> '~BitBlt(mdc&,0,0,_X,_Y,_DC(1),0,0,SRCCOPY)  //this doesn't, but should?

This is one of the confusing parts of trying to work partly with Windows
API, and partly with GFA's internal routines.

GFA has the command BITBLT which takes the source first, then the
destination.

Windows API on the other hand has the BitBlt function that takes the
destination first, then the source.

Don't ask me why GFA reversed them, as it makes things confusing, but
that's the way it is.

I recommend sticking with the Windows API version. It should be slightly
faster, and less confusing if you don't try mixing the two versions...

Hope this helps!

Anthony Watson
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Hi Jim,
I ran your routine 3 times as is and it only shows line 40 one time.
Dale

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> List Member Jim Pennington <Jim@x-act.net> wrote:
> Since your eyes are so sharp today, how about this?:
>
> OPENW #1,3,3,_X,_Y,-1
> CLS
> FOR i=1 TO 40
>   PRINT "This is line number ";i
> NEXT i
> KEYGET a%
> CLOSEW #1
>
> "This is line number 40" shows twice at the bottom of the screen. If you
change
> 3,3 to 0,0 it only shows once. ?????
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List Member Anthony Watson <awatson@pacifier.com> wrote:
Jim/Dale,

> OPENW #1,3,3,_X,_Y,-1
> CLS
> FOR i=1 TO 40
>  PRINT "This is line number ";i
> NEXT i
> KEYGET a%
> CLOSEW #1  

> I ran your routine 3 times as is and it only shows line 40 one time.

Same here. I got perfect results every time whether I used the 3's or 0's
in the OPENW statement. I also couldn't see any possible reason for a
double display of line 40.

If this is cut from a larger program, maybe something else is actually
causing the problem. I've run across unexplainable problems like this in
the past, that had nothing to do with the code that was acting up. These
can be very difficult to track down!

I've found it more reliable to simplify statements whenever possible.
For instance, instead of:

  OPENW #1,3,3,_X,_Y,-1

I might use:

  wide=_X
  high=_Y
  OPENW #1,3,3,wide,high,-1

This seems extra important when dealing with functions. Instead of:

  OPENW #1,3,3,@get_width(),@get_height(),-1

Use:

  wide=@get_width()
  high=@get_height()
  OPENW #1,3,3,wide,high,-1

Don't ask me why these work better... 
I don't make 'em up, I just report 'em... Ha. Ha.

> By the way, I normally don't mix GFA and API commands, I just
> missed that one. Since your eyes are so sharp today

I only caught that one because I have fallen prey to that same problem so
many times before. I have slowly been conditioned to hunt those down and
kill 'em! Ha. Ha.

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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 16:37:41 -0700
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
A GFA32 file download section has been added to the GFAWHELP site. Just
click on Downloads from the main page.
Dale
http://gfawhelp.gfa.net
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Goodnight Tom
Goodnight  Anthony
Goodnight  Sven
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Goodnight  Eberhard
Goodnight  Joe
Goodnight  Bev
Goodnight  Jim
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can someone please assist me in unsubscribing succesfully, the engineer
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
I need to alter one key in my registry to get back to 640x480.
Does anybody know a means of doing this from DOS?

The fun, if ever there was any, has gone from this situation.

I find that I can do quite a bit with GFA-W(16), but can't do 
*any* of it until I can get back to 640x480.

TomR.

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glenn short wrote:

> List Member glenn short <admin@mcmelectronics.com.au> wrote:
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List Member Zane <Zane@paloverde.com> wrote:
Tom Record wrote:

> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> I need to alter one key in my registry to get back to 640x480.
> Does anybody know a means of doing this from DOS?
>
> The fun, if ever there was any, has gone from this situation.
>
> I find that I can do quite a bit with GFA-W(16), but can't do
> *any* of it until I can get back to 640x480.
>
> TomR.
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This works for me on two machines, one Windows95, the other Windows98:

Create a text file named RES.REG containing the following:

REGEDIT4

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Config\0001\Display\Settings]
"Resolution"="640,480"


then execute REGEDIT  RES.REG, reboot.


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List Member Engel Nobbe <bluez@celestial.demon.nl> wrote:
I asked the system manager at my company, but hey didn't know how to do it
either... You'll probably end up re-installing over the old installation,
depending on the OS...


Tom Record wrote:

> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> I need to alter one key in my registry to get back to 640x480.
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> The fun, if ever there was any, has gone from this situation.
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List Member "Bev & Lou Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
Morning Dale:

Are you finding it hard to think of things to do?????    <g>

                                                   ->Bev<--


----- Original Message ----- 
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Subject: [gfabasic] BED


> List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
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> Goodnight  Anthony
> Goodnight  Sven
> Goodnight  Georg
> Goodnight  John Findlay
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> Goodnight  Jim
> Goodnight  Gene
> Goodnight  Gunnar
> Goodnight
> Goodnight
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List Member John Findlay <Jayef@compuserve.com> wrote:

Tom,

Did Zane's suggestion help?

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D
Create a text file named RES.REG containing the following:

REGEDIT4

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Config\0001\Display\Settings]
"Resolution"=3D"640,480"

then execute REGEDIT  RES.REG, reboot.
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D

Regards,

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List Member Jim Pennington <Jim@x-act.net> wrote:

Anthony/Dale,

I've tried this on several machines now, and it happens on all Win9x machines,
but not Win 3.1. It's related to the length value... if the window ends up bigger
than the displayable area on the screen, the bottom area is not scrolled
properly. It seems preferable to use:

OPENW #1,0,0,0,0,~15    //just to set up the attributes
FULLW #1                //gives maximum useable size, then save _X and _Y
                        //for later use and resize as required.

What a waste of time. :)

How I got into this silliness was trying to set up an invisible window for
the purpose of repainting a screen which contains random scrolling text. I
would then print to the invisible window, and blit to the visible one. Under some
conditions, I have to repaint with the two origins aligned, and under others the
lower left has to be aligned. Here's the new code:

OPENW #1,0,0,0,0,~15    //just to set up the attributes
FULLW #1                //gives maximum useable size
mdcx&=_X
mdcy&=_Y
hBmp&=CREATEBMP(mdcx&,mdcy&)
mdc&=MEMDC(_DC(1))
SETBMP(mdc&,hBmp&)
SETDC mdc&
CLS
FOR i=1 TO 40
  PRINT "This is line ";i
NEXT i
KEYGET a%             //should see blank screen here
BITBLT mdc&,0,0,mdcx&,mdcy&,_DC(1),0,0,SRCCOPY
KEYGET a%             //should see text here
FREEDC mdc&
FREEBMP (hBmp&)
CLOSEW #1

Now this code works fine, but the offscreen window does not scroll off the top
like a regular window would. In other words, I see line 1 through line 32, then
line 40. Is there some attribute that needs to be set, or ???

Thanks for the help,

Jim Pennington


> List Member Anthony Watson <awatson@pacifier.com> wrote: 
> Jim/Dale, 
>    
> > OPENW #1,3,3,_X,_Y,-1 
> > CLS 
> > FOR i=1 TO 40 
> >  PRINT "This is line number ";i 
> > NEXT i 
> > KEYGET a% 
> > CLOSEW #1   
>    
> > I ran your routine 3 times as is and it only shows line 40 one time. 
>    
> Same here. I got perfect results every time whether I used the 3's or 0's 
> in the OPENW statement. I also couldn't see any possible reason for a 
> double display of line 40. 
>  
> If this is cut from a larger program, maybe something else is actually 
> causing the problem. I've run across unexplainable problems like this in 
> the past, that had nothing to do with the code that was acting up. These 
> can be very difficult to track down! 
>  
> I've found it more reliable to simplify statements whenever possible. 
> For instance, instead of: 
>  
>   OPENW #1,3,3,_X,_Y,-1 
>  
> I might use: 
>  
>   wide=_X 
>   high=_Y 
>   OPENW #1,3,3,wide,high,-1 
>  
> This seems extra important when dealing with functions. Instead of: 
>  
>   OPENW #1,3,3,@get_width(),@get_height(),-1 
>  
> Use: 
>  
>   wide=@get_width() 
>   high=@get_height() 
>   OPENW #1,3,3,wide,high,-1 
>  
> Don't ask me why these work better...  
> I don't make 'em up, I just report 'em... Ha. Ha. 
>  
> > By the way, I normally don't mix GFA and API commands, I just 
> > missed that one. Since your eyes are so sharp today 
>  
> I only caught that one because I have fallen prey to that same problem so 
> many times before. I have slowly been conditioned to hunt those down and 
> kill 'em! Ha. Ha. 
>  
> Anthony




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List Member Jim Pennington <Jim@x-act.net> wrote:

> List Member "Russell Hayward" <russ@softhome.net> wrote: 
> Hi Jim, 
>    
> > Since your eyes are so sharp today, how about this?: 
> > 
> > OPENW #1,3,3,_X,_Y,-1 
> > CLS 
> > FOR i=1 TO 40 
> >   PRINT "This is line number ";i 
> > NEXT i 
> > KEYGET a% 
> > CLOSEW #1 
> > 
> > "This is line number 40" shows twice at the bottom of the screen. If you 
> change 
> > 3,3 to 0,0 it only shows once. ????? 
>  
> I get the same thing, except it happens when it is at 0,0, 3,3 or anywhere 
> else I try it and with _Y-1, -2, -3. I think it has to do with GFA's 
> scrolling of the text when printing off the bottom of the window. It only 
> seems to happen when the taskbar is overlapping the window. If I turn my 
> taskbar off always on top, it doesn't happen any more. 

That's the same conclusion I came to.     :)

>  
> I think the best way round this is to just not use PRINT for anything except 
> debugging. If you want an application to work like a console application 
> then use a read-only multiline edit box. This way it will be re-painted 
> automatically and will handle scrolling without problems.

Since this is a major conversion of a production application, any major
conceptual changes (that take longer than an hour to implement) are really not an
option right now. I can see that you have a trick up your sleeve   :)   but I'm
not quite getting it and need a f'rinstance to see it. Later on, there are a lot
of changes I'd like to make to clean up this application for Windows.

Are you saying that there's no way to make an invisible window that scrolls?

thanks,
Jim Pennington

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
All who attempted to help:
I'm an old dog, but can learn new tricks - sometimes.
I had never been able to get into the setup screen allowing choice of
boot mode.  I got it by accident this morning.

One had suggested going that route to reset my screen to 640x480 & I
rebuffed him because I thot it a silly idea.  He's smarter than I!

In "Safe" mode, it booted @ 640x480 & allowed me to make it permanent.

Another sent me instructions to run regedit.exe & alter the one registry
line that was giving me trouble, then reboot.  Seemed like what I wanted
but this thing wouldn't co-operate, so it failed.

I've no idea what I've done now.  I worked 27 hrs straight, breaking only
for the toilet & meals.  I slept 3 hours, then began again - trying to 
make regedit adjust that line.  In DOS, I loaded win.ini into edit.com &
added run=regedit a:\res.reg.  Well, I must have the dumbest P-100/Win95a
on the face of the earth!  Regedit came up, but couldn't find res.reg on
a:\.  It was there!

Because of a BIOS overlay to accomodate a 5.1G HD, this thing doesn't do
a lot of the expected & I'd never succeeded in getting to a "Safe" boot.
There is _ONE_ opportunity to get to DOS in the overlay & one must be very
quick about hitting the Ctrl key in the tiny time wiondow.  I goofed again
& hit the Power switch instead which resulted in the world-famous "Windows
didn't complete loading" msg & the normal selections of "Safe" mode.

I have over 30 hrs labor & sweat (we'll not count the tears!) for trying to
accomodate others w/ larger monitors & screen settings.  Well folks, I'm back
to 640x480@16-bit on a 14" monitor & there I'll stay!  I discovered that it
had adjusted colordepth to 8-bit automatically, so it should have worked that
way.  I donno why not, nor do I give a damn at this point.  It had also added
32-bit color to the choices of color depth.  It has NEVER shown above 24-bit
before!

Enough of this personal saga... to those who tried to help, heartfelt thanks!
To the rest... I'm Baaaaaaack!
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Your monitor exploits have touched me deeply!!
Glad you are back!!
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> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
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>
> Enough of this personal saga... to those who tried to help, heartfelt
thanks!
> To the rest... I'm Baaaaaaack!
> <G>
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Hi Bev,
Not hardly! I think I might be taking on too much. GFA32 routines are coming
in so I had to make a GFA32 download section on the GFAWHELP web page.  I
have also been requested to start a 32 news letter. Somehow I am beginning
to think the days may be too short.
WHERE IS LOUISE?  I miss her messages.
Dale

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> Are you finding it hard to think of things to do?????    <g>
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Hi!

I wrote a small program to magnify the display around the mouse pointer. It
works great when run in the editor, but the compiled version does _not_
refresh the window... i REALLY have some problems with the whole DC-thing,
which is not available in GB32.

GFA does not respond to my mails, so im trying it this way...

Bye,
Georg


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Dim xpos&, ypos&, set? =3D False
Dim lh As Long, vergr As Integer
'##E#
laden
OpenW # 1, xpos&, ypos&, 200, 300
With Me
  .Caption =3D "Lupe32 V0.45"
  .MaxButton =3D False
  .BackColor  =3D colBtnFace
  .Sizeable =3D False
EndWith
Win_1.OnTop =3D True
Ocx Frame fr1 =3D "Vergr=F6=DFerung", 5, 210, 185, 50
Ocx Option v1 =3D "4fach", 10, 230, 50, 20
Ocx Option v2 =3D "8fach", 70, 230, 50, 20
Ocx Option v3 =3D "16fach", 130, 230, 55, 20
If vergr =3D 40
  v1.Value =3D 1
ElseIf vergr =3D 20
  v2.Value =3D 1
Else
  v3.Value =3D 1
EndIf
Do
  GetEvent
  Exit If Me Is Nothing
  If MouseX > 0 And MouseY > 0 And MouseX < _X And MouseY < _Y
    If set? =3D False
      Win_1.BackColor  =3D colBtnFace
      Ocx Frame fr1 =3D "Vergr=F6=DFerung", 5, 210, 185, 50
      Text 25, 90, "(C) Georg Veichtlbauer, 1999"
      set? =3D True
    EndIf
  Else

    Get MouseX - vergr, MouseY - vergr, MouseX + vergr, MouseY + vergr, =
lh
    Stretch 0, 0, lh, 200, 200, SRCCOPY
    FreeBmp lh
    set? =3D False
  EndIf
Loop
CloseW 1
speichern
>Sub v1_Click
  vergr =3D 40
EndSub
>Sub v2_Click
  vergr =3D 20
EndSub
>Sub v3_Click
  vergr =3D 10
EndSub
>Sub Win_1_Moved
  xpos& =3D Win_1.Left / 15
  ypos& =3D Win_1.Top / 15
EndSub
>Procedure laden
  Local config As String =3D App.Path + "\config.ini"
  Local app1 As String =3D "Lupe"
  If Exist(config)
    xpos& =3D GetPrivateProfileInt(app1, "XPosition", 0, config)
    ypos& =3D GetPrivateProfileInt(app1, "YPosition", 0, config)
    vergr =3D GetPrivateProfileInt(app1, "Lupe", 0, config)
  Else
    xpos& =3D _X / 1.5
    ypos& =3D _Y / 2
  EndIf
Return
>Procedure speichern
  Local config As String =3D App.Path + "\config.ini"
  Local app1 As String =3D "Lupe"
  ~WritePrivateProfileString(app1, "XPosition", Str$(xpos&), config)
  ~WritePrivateProfileString(app1, "YPosition", Str$(ypos&), config)
  ~WritePrivateProfileString(app1, "Lupe", Str$(vergr), config)
Return

Return
$DatFile
$ExeName =3D E:\Programmieren\GFA-32\VTools\lupe.Exe
$FileDescription =3D Lupe V.0.45
$Comments =3D Autor: Georg Veichtlbauer
$CompanyName =3D VWare
$LegalCopyright =3D =A9 1999 Georg Veichtlbauer
$ProductVersion# =3D 1,1,0,0
$FileVersion# =3D 1,1,0,0
$LanguageId =3D 0407
$FileVersion =3D %d.%d.
$ProductVersion =3D %d.%d
$DatFile

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List Member "Russell Hayward" <russ@softhome.net> wrote:
Hi Jim,

> Since your eyes are so sharp today, how about this?:
>
> OPENW #1,3,3,_X,_Y,-1
> CLS
> FOR i=1 TO 40
>   PRINT "This is line number ";i
> NEXT i
> KEYGET a%
> CLOSEW #1
>
> "This is line number 40" shows twice at the bottom of the screen. If you
change
> 3,3 to 0,0 it only shows once. ?????

I get the same thing, except it happens when it is at 0,0, 3,3 or anywhere
else I try it and with _Y-1, -2, -3. I think it has to do with GFA's
scrolling of the text when printing off the bottom of the window. It only
seems to happen when the taskbar is overlapping the window. If I turn my
taskbar off always on top, it doesn't happen any more.

I think the best way round this is to just not use PRINT for anything except
debugging. If you want an application to work like a console application
then use a read-only multiline edit box. This way it will be re-painted
automatically and will handle scrolling without problems.

Ta'ra,
Russell Hayward

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List Member "franz-xaver.schweiger" <franz-xaver.schweiger@debitel.net> wrote:
=====================================================
The API-Function ~SetPixel(Dc,X,Y,Color) is about 3 times faster then
the
RGBCOLOR Color%     DRAW x,y        !
=====================================================


OPENW #1,0,0,400,300,0
' Auto // GFA Basic 32: Remove the '
Bmp% = LOADBMP("C:\WINDOWS\CLOUDS.BMP")
' Replace in GB32 the last Line and use follow Line:
' Bmp% = LoadImage(0,"C:\WINDOWS\CLOUDS.BMP", IMAGE_BITMAP, 0, 0,
LR_LOADFROMFILE)
' Slow Version
PUT 0,0,Bmp%
FOR y& = 0 TO 255
  FOR x& = 0 TO 255
    Color1% = RGBPOINT(x&,y&)
    Color% = ROR(Color1%,1)
    AND Color%,$7F7F7F
    RGBCOLOR Color%
    DRAW x&,y&
  NEXT x&
NEXT y&
KEYGET a%
' Fast Version
Scrn% = _DC(1)
PUT 0,0,Bmp%
FOR y& = 0 TO 255
  FOR x& = 0 TO 255
    Color1% = RGBPOINT(x&,y&)
    Color% = ROR(Color1%,1)
    AND Color%,$7F7F7F
    ~SetPixel(Scrn%,x&,y&,Color%)
  NEXT x&
NEXT y&
KEYGET a%
' Free Bmp
FREEBMP Bmp%
CLOSEW #1


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Dale,

would you be so kind to separate the sections for download (GFA16 & GFA32)? I
wondered a long time around of how to get to the download-area with the
GFA32-sources FROM the GFA32-section - until I took a look at the
standard-download-link.

Attached, you'll find some more samples for GB32 for your page.

Bye, Joe

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List Member "EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" <JoeHurst@snafu.de> wrote:
> =====================================================
> The API-Function ~SetPixel(Dc,X,Y,Color) is about 3 times faster then
> the
> RGBCOLOR Color%     DRAW x,y        !
> =====================================================

How about PSET x,y,c?

Bye, Joe

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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Hi Joe,
The download sections are separated. You mean make individual pages for
each.

http://gfawhelp.gfa.net
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> Dale,
>
> would you be so kind to separate the sections for download (GFA16 &
GFA32)? I
> wondered a long time around of how to get to the download-area with the
> GFA32-sources FROM the GFA32-section - until I took a look at the
> standard-download-link.




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List Member BDD <BrentDeck@compuserve.com> wrote:
Could someone please email me a copy of these 2 files from the system fol=
der?

ver.dll
lzexpand.dll

I downloaded the GFACAD from the gfa site,
and the install program trashed these files
in favor of earlier versions. =


I have no idea if this is related, but since then, Netscape wont run.

Thanks.

Brent.
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Awwww, yer just jealous <G>.


At 08:16 AM 19/10/99 -0700, you wrote:
>List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
>Your monitor exploits have touched me deeply!!
>Glad you are back!!
>Dale
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>
>> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> All who attempted to help:
>>
>> Enough of this personal saga... to those who tried to help, heartfelt
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>> To the rest... I'm Baaaaaaack!
>> <G>
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
There are GFA32 files for downloading from the GFAWHELP web site. Some nice
programs.
Dale Bryant
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List Member BDD <BrentDeck@compuserve.com> wrote:
Many thanks to those who helped in my time of despair.

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List Member "franz-xaver.schweiger" <franz-xaver.schweiger@debitel.net> wrote:


"EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" wrote:

> List Member "EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" <JoeHurst@snafu.de> wrote:
> > =====================================================
> > The API-Function ~SetPixel(Dc,X,Y,Color) is about 3 times faster then
> > the
> > RGBCOLOR Color%     DRAW x,y        !
> > =====================================================
>
> How about PSET x,y,c?
>
> Bye, Joe

The PSET x,y,c Command works only with the System Palette (only pre-devined
256 Colors)
and not with RGB-Colors.
The ~SetPixel(Dc,X,Y,Color) works with RGB-Colors (for 16 , 24 , 32 Bit
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Hi Dale,

I have seen Joe's files for GFA32.
Very good.
So I found there an example: BrowseForFolder

I had write the same example for GFA 16 for a long time.
Here the file. I need not GFA32 yet. I can do all thinks
with our good old GFA 16.
I will bye it, but work with it?????
The new language (GFA32) is for me a little bit from GFA
and a little bit from VB. I hate VB!!!

Greetings 

Eberhard



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Hi,

i had some problems with GFA32 and i think it is a good idea if =
everybody will tell here all "funny"
changes from GFA16 to GFA32. Why should everybody search for himselve.

INPUT #1,a$=20
In GFA16 that command read a string up to the next komma ","
In GFA32 it reads a string up to the next space!!!=20
LSET
Lset a$=3Db$ works=20
Lset a$(1)=3Dmid$(b$(1),15,10) will not work. But carefull, the editor =
will not tell you
in which line the error is. You will get the following errormassage: =
CodeGen(WHAT)=20
GFA solve that problem in GFAWIN11.OCX !
AUTO
Works fin, but if you have too many lines with AUTO the editor will =
collaps every 2. run.
So: After the first run, rename AUTO to GLOBAL!=20

Gunnar
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<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Hi,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>i had some problems with GFA32 and i think it is a =
good idea=20
if everybody will tell here all &quot;funny&quot;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>changes from GFA16 to GFA32. Why should everybody =
search for=20
himselve.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>INPUT #1,a$&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>In GFA16 that command read a string up to the next =
komma=20
&quot;,&quot;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>In GFA32 it reads a string up to the next space!!!=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>LSET</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT><FONT size=3D2>Lset a$=3Db$ =
works=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Lset a$(1)=3Dmid$(b$(1),15,10) will not work. But =
carefull, the=20
editor will not tell you</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>in which line the error is. You will get the =
following=20
errormassage: CodeGen(WHAT) </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>GFA solve that problem in GFAWIN11.OCX =
!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>AUTO</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Works fin, but if you have too many lines with AUTO =
the editor=20
will collaps every 2. run.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>So: After the first run, rename AUTO to GLOBAL! =
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Gunnar</FONT></DIV>
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List Member "Russell Hayward" <russ@softhome.net> wrote:
Hi Jim,

> Since this is a major conversion of a production application, any major
> conceptual changes (that take longer than an hour to implement) are really
> not an option right now. I can see that you have a trick up your sleeve
> :)
> but I'm not quite getting it and need a f'rinstance to see it. Later on,
> there are
> a lot of changes I'd like to make to clean up this application for
> Windows.

I'm sorry I don't know what a 'f'rinstance' is, I don't know whether this is
due to my nationality or my age, but I'm guessing it's an example: :-)

DEFWRD "a-z"
' This is just to save a bit of typing
ret$=CHR$(13)+CHR$(10)
' Create an edit box in the window you want to print in, for this example
' (or f'rinstance) I'll use DIALOG #0
DIALOG #0,100,100,300,300,"WPrint Test",DS_MODALFRAME | WS_SYSMENU
  EDITTEXT "",100,0,0,300,300,ES_MULTILINE | WS_DISABLED | ES_AUTOVSCROLL
ENDDIALOG
SHOWDIALOG #0
REPEAT
  SLEEP
  IF _Mess=WM_LBUTTONDOWN
    WPrint "You clicked the left mouse button "+STR$(n)+ret$+"You
Dastard!"+ret$
    ' On one line
    n++
  ENDIF
UNTIL MENU(1)=4
CLOSEDIALOG #0

PROCEDURE WPrint(s$)
  _WIN$(DLG(0,100))=_WIN$(DLG(0,100))+s$

~SendMessage(DLG(0,100),EM_SETSEL,1,MAKELONG(LEN(_WIN$(DLG(0,100))),LEN(_WIN
$(DLG(0,100)))))
  ' On one line, it's a whopper. All it does is make the
  ' edit box scroll down when the text reaches the bottom
RETURN

You will have to replace all PRINTs with calls to this procedure. You will
also have to change a few things if you create the string on the print line,
for example:

PRINT a$;b$'n'f'"Hello"

Would have to become

WPrint a$+b$+STR$(n)+STR$(f)+"Hello"+ret$

How much work this is going to be will depend on how many PRINT statements
you have. This example doesn't include PRINT AT, but that wouldn't be too
difficult to do.

> Are you saying that there's no way to make an invisible window that
> scrolls?

I don't know, I've never tried :-). I really don't think it is a good idea
to rely on GFA's emulated console commands working off the screen.

HTH,
Russell Hayward

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List Member Jim Pennington <Jim@x-act.net> wrote:

Russell,

> I'm sorry I don't know what a 'f'rinstance' is, I don't know whether this is
> due to my nationality or my age, but I'm guessing it's an example: :-)

Sorry, "f'rinstance" = "for instance" = yes, an example. Was just trying for a
little humor.     :)=

> How much work this is going to be will depend on how many PRINT statements
> you have. This example doesn't include PRINT AT, but that wouldn't be too
> difficult to do.
> 
>> Are you saying that there's no way to make an invisible window that
>> scrolls?
>
> I don't know, I've never tried :-). I really don't think it is a good idea
> to rely on GFA's emulated console commands working off the screen.

I appreciate the effort you put into this example. It's kind of what I thought
you had in mind. Certainly it would work great for output only windows, since it
scrolls and redraws automatically, but I think it would be kind of messy to try
and simulate a standard GFA two-way window.

In the meantime, I have had some time to ponder this and I think I have a simple
fix. My original solution was to create a bitmap/MEMDC, use that as the
output device, and blit it to the visible window after every PRINT or WM_PAINT.
That worked fine except I realized that the two devices would not always be the
same size, and I needed to add a flag to determine whether to align the origins
(non-scrolling), or the lower left corners (scrolling). At that point I
discovered that the MEMDC was not scrolling, and this discussion began. What I
didn't realize at the time, was that "standard" Windows windows do NOT
automatically scroll, and GFA simulates this by keeping track of the cursor
position and scrolling any time a line feed is "printed" on the last visible
line. Since in scrolling mode I always "PRINT AT" to the last visible line, all I
would seem to need to do is use that same flag to "manually" scroll the MEMDC
after any line feed. Too simple, huh?    :{

Thanks again for everyone's help. It's nice to be able to "think out loud" to a
group who thinks back.

Jim Pennington



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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
There will be a GFA32 'Not Affiliated With GFA' news letter sent Monday to
all who have subscribed up to that date. To subscribe send email to
adbryant@gfa.net
SUBSCRIBE32
in the subject line.

To subscribe to the GFA16 news letter send email to:
adbryant@gfa.net
SUBSCRIBE
in the subject line.

Both will have attached source code sent to me by other subscribers.
Don't miss the.

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List Member "Georg Veichtlbauer" <veichtlbauer@gmx.at> wrote:
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> all who have subscribed up to that date.

Great, Dale!!


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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Hi Georg,
I am looking for GFA32 material. If you have anything please send it to me.
Take care,
Dale

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> List Member "Georg Veichtlbauer" <veichtlbauer@gmx.at> wrote:
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> Great, Dale!!
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ALL,
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In the moment one program will print all information to a file on the =
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Here a litte program for a smile!

Auto a$
Open "C:\ttt.txt" for Output As # 1
Print # 1, "Hallo world, here is GFA32"
Close # 1
Open "C:\ttt.txt" for Input As # 1
While Not EOF(# 1)
  Input # 1, a$ : Print a$
Wend
Close # 1
Stop

The result is:

Hallo
orld
here
s
FA32 =20

Where are the Letters gon?

Gunnar=20

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<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Here a litte program for a =
smile!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Auto a$<BR>Open =
&quot;C:\ttt.txt&quot; for=20
Output As # 1<BR>Print # 1, &quot;Hallo world, here is =
GFA32&quot;<BR>Close #=20
1<BR>Open &quot;C:\ttt.txt&quot; for Input As # 1<BR>While Not EOF(#=20
1)<BR>&nbsp; Input # 1, a$ : Print a$<BR>Wend<BR>Close # =
1<BR>Stop</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>The result is:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Hallo</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>orld</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>here</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>s</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>FA32&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Where are the Letters =
gon?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 =
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List Member "EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" <JoeHurst@snafu.de> wrote:
> The new language (GFA32) is for me a little bit from GFA
> and a little bit from VB. I hate VB!!!
The new language is usual for all 32-bit-languages for windows - it is object
oriented, and it is similiar to Delphi and C++.

Bye, Joe

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Subject: RE: [gfabasic] Careful with INPUT #
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1. Reset your mailing program to "text only", please.
2. Here is a working solution:
Public String a
' get a free filehandle to access any file the windows-way:
Public FFH As Int16
FFH = FreeFile
Open "C:\ttt.txt" for Output As # FFH
Print # FFH, "Hallo world, here is GFA32"
Close # FFH
' get a new free filehandle after _any_ close-command
FFH = FreeFile
Open "C:\ttt.txt" for Input As # FFH
While Not EOF(# FFH)
  Line Input # FFH, a           ' instead of "INPUT"
  MsgBox a
Wend
Close # FFH
End                                    ' don't STOP - simply end if there is
nothing for DEBUG.Print

Did you know that "PRINT" with "," creates separated sections in a file
which will be found by "INPUT"? This is this way since GFA-BASIC for ATARI
ST ten years ago...
Whyever the letters are lost: it is really a problem. Did you mail it to GFA
or shell I do it for you?

Bye, Joe

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Here is a working solution:</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2>Public String a<BR>' =
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Input #=20
FFH, a&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; ' =
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"INPUT"<BR>&nbsp; MsgBox a<BR>Wend<BR>Close # FFH<BR>End<SPAN=20
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' don't STOP - simply end if there is nothing for=20
DEBUG.Print</SPAN><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN =
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you know that "PRINT" with "," creates separated sections in a file =
which will=20
be found by "INPUT"? This is this way since GFA-BASIC for ATARI =
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List Member gunnar.boenicke@t-online.de (gunnar.boenicke) wrote:
EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin schrieb:
> 1. Reset your mailing program to "text only", please.
> 2. Here is a working solution:
> Public String a
> ' get a free filehandle to access any file the windows-way:
> Public FFH As Int16
> FFH = FreeFile
> Open "C:\ttt.txt" for Output As # FFH
> Print # FFH, "Hallo world, here is GFA32"
> Close # FFH
> ' get a new free filehandle after _any_ close-command
> FFH = FreeFile
> Open "C:\ttt.txt" for Input As # FFH
> While Not EOF(# FFH)
>   Line Input # FFH, a           ' instead of "INPUT"
>   MsgBox a
> Wend
> Close # FFH
> End                                    ' don't STOP - simply end if there is
> nothing for DEBUG.Print
>
> Did you know that "PRINT" with "," creates separated sections in a file
> which will be found by "INPUT"? This is this way since GFA-BASIC for ATARI
> ST ten years ago...
> Whyever the letters are lost: it is really a problem. Did you mail it to GFA
> or shell I do it for you?
>
> Bye, Joe
>
Hi Joe,

yes, i did mail the problem to GFA.
yes, i know that "," creates separate sections.

That is, where my problem start. I used the "," to separate. Now i must read
byt by byt until i recieve a ",". LINE INPUT is here not useable. At least the
documentation should tell you about a change by a command. 

I found now three errors in GFA32. Howmany errors did the other user found.
We all should tell here the errors, to protect other user and to save them
searchingtime.

Thanks for your answer!

Bye, Gunnar

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List Member "EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" <JoeHurst@snafu.de> wrote:
> yes, i know that "," creates separate sections.
>
> That is, where my problem start. I used the "," to separate. Now i must read
> byt by byt until i recieve a ",". LINE INPUT is here not useable. At least the
> documentation should tell you about a change by a command.
The command didn't change, it simply does not work. That is a pity, but cannot
be changed at the moment.

> I found now three errors in GFA32. Howmany errors did the other user found.
> We all should tell here the errors, to protect other user and to save them
> searchingtime.

Okay, here is my offer for the mailinglist:
EVERYBODY who uses GFA-BASIC 32 and finds errors: post it to me with a short (!)
example. I try to verify the behaviour and build a "list of bugs" which will be
postet here once a week (or so). With this offer I want to reach the current
BETATESTERS too!

You, Gunnar, can start: sent me your other errors.

Bye, Joe

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List Member gunnar.boenicke@t-online.de (Gunnar Boenicke) wrote:
 Hi,        

DATE$="31.12.1999" did not exist in GFA32.
I need the new command to set the system-date and system-time.    
I read that anywhere in the documentation, but cant find it anymore.

Please help.

Gunnar   

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List Member "Roland Walter" <roland@rowalt.de> wrote:
Hallo,
At my homepage (http://www.rowalt.de/gfabasic/) there
are some new listings which did not reach the list.
(May be by my own error).
This is especially the last version of my POP3 mail
program example and also a SendMail program made
by Engelbert van Look and so on.

Also I have at last made some more english comments.

O.K., thats all,
Greetings from Roland
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List Member Michael Weigand <michael-weigand@foni.net> wrote:
Hi!

Here is a list of errors I noticed so far:

1.
In the form designer put an image object which displays an icon inside a
command button. Run the form ==> GFA-Basic hangs.

2.
In the form designer add a label control to a form and change the
appearance property. You'll see effects like sunken 3D borders and so on.
Run the form ==> None of the effects is visible.

3.
Every now and then the last one or two lines in the source are gone, when I
switch from the form designer back to the editor.

4.
A statusbar control added to a form using the form designer looks different
than a statusbar that was added as Ocx control in the editor.

5.
The setup program hangs after installing GFG32.

Maybe some of these aren't errors, but features. Who knows... On the other
hand: The more I use it, the more I like it.


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List Member UlliStemmeler@t-online.de (Ulli Stemmeler) wrote:
Hello,

there=B4s just one week left for me to decide if I should buy the new GFA=
32 or=20
not.
During the past weeks I read many of the mails talking about the new 32-v=
ersion,=20
but I am not sure if I should buy it or not.
If I don=B4t do this, I loose the offer to get it for "just" 500,- deutsc=
hMarks.

I stopped writing things in the "old" 16-version because I am not sure if=
 I=20
should go on with it. And I am not sure how much I can import to the new=20
version, so I don=B4t know if I should change...

Please, those of you who have it and have some experience with it, what w=
ould=20
you recommend ? Buy it or not or "bye bye" ?

Sincerely,

Ulli Stemmeler
M=FCnster/Germany

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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Hi Ulli,
Of course you want to buy it while you can get a better price. Besides, a
lot of us will need your help.
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> List Member UlliStemmeler@t-online.de (Ulli Stemmeler) wrote:
> Hello,
>
> theres just one week left for me to decide if I should buy the new GFA32
or
> not.
> During the past weeks I read many of the mails talking about the new
32-version,
> but I am not sure if I should buy it or not.
> If I dont do this, I loose the offer to get it for "just" 500,-
deutschMarks.
>
> I stopped writing things in the "old" 16-version because I am not sure if
I
> should go on with it. And I am not sure how much I can import to the new
> version, so I dont know if I should change...
>
> Please, those of you who have it and have some experience with it, what
would
> you recommend ? Buy it or not or "bye bye" ?
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Ulli Stemmeler
> Mnster/Germany
>
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Check out START32E by Michael Weigand. Go to the GFAWHELP web site and
select the GFA32 button. Click on START32E.ZIP and you will find this useful
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Does anybody have a copy of gfastart.hlp?  The rest of the helpfiles
on Roland's site refuse to run without it.
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List Member Hans =?iso-8859-1?Q?T=F6rnqvist?= <hans@tttronic.se> wrote:
Hi,
I have read lots about offer to buy GFA32 for 500 DM for a short period.

I have not get any offer from GFA.
I have the English version of GFA BAsic 16 for Windows.  When can we
count to have the English version ready and can we also count to get the
English version for 500 DM?

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Thank you, Dale!!
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Anyone converting their GFA16 code to GFA32 code.  Is it easy, difficult or
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Want to make that CD Auto RUn?

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List Member Michael Weigand <michael-weigand@foni.net> wrote:
>List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:

>Anyone converting their GFA16 code to GFA32 code.  Is it easy, difficult or
>impossible?

It's easy. Most of the GFA16 commands work in GFA32 as well. You can save
your 16 bit source as LST and import this file in GB32. As you might guess
the editor marks errors in the code. 

When you're more experienced with GB32 you might not want co convert the
user interface parts (windows, dialogs), as these things can be easily
designed with the form editor. Also, these controls are now objects, with
properties and methods. This mades writing code much more easy. 

So there are many similarities, some differences and many new things in GB32. 


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List Member gunnar.boenicke@t-online.de (Gunnar Boenicke) wrote:
Hi Dale,

for me was the converting easy. For my biggest program (17834 lines) i spend
about 13 hours before i runs the first time. My biggest problem was that i
used before the same name for variables and arrays -- a$,a$() --. Some
commands do not exist anymore.
But, i dont used a lot APIs. API16s will not work anymore.
I cant say something about Dialogboxes etc. GFA32 use now OCX-Forms. The
german instuktion to change to OCX-Forms sounds easy, but i never tried
that, because my programs are made for business and do not use a mouse. So i
used only normal OPENW etc. OPENW did not changed, but you have a lot new
features.
My problems now are the errors of GFA32 or my own errors by changing.

Do you have your GFA32 now?

Bye

Gunnar



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List Member "Eberhard Funck" <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de> wrote:
>List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
>Anyone converting their GFA16 code to GFA32 code.  Is it easy, difficult or
>impossible?
>Dale


Hi Dale,

Now I have GFA Basic 32 since Saturday.
If my apps are in clear GFA Basic language,
it should be possible.
But:
Like Johns apps, so mine are writen like C.
So with the new language you cannot convert
these apps in a easy way.

I must spend very much time to learn the new
language. Peoples, they had worked with VB
should be lucky.

I must write, if I will, my great apps new.
And than this converted apps run equal
like my 16 bit apps under W9x and NT.
Where is the different?

I can't link res files from my good old
Borlands Workshop. What a bitty.
I can't create own DLLs.
I can't create main windows with WNDCLASS structure
and CreateWindow function, because I don't know,
how I get the address from the CallBack functions.
address% = _CB(x) no more.
or
address% = GetProcAddress (NULL, procname$)
every time = 0, because the compiler function $Export procname
away, and so on....
Therefore it's not easy for me to change to GB32.

This for the moment.

Greetings

Eberhard


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List Member "Eberhard Funck" <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de> wrote:
Hi GB32 user,

Here an example for opening a Printer Dialog.
The error (?) is documented in following lines:

' Johns and my old example for GFA Basic 16
' Now for GB32 and it don't run
'
Type DOCINFO
  cbSize As Long
  lpszDocName As Long
  lpszOutput As Long
End Type
'
Type PRINTDLG
  lStructSize As Long
  hwndOwner As Long
  hDevMode As Long
  hDevNames As Long
  hdc As Long
  flags As Long
  nFromPage As Int16
  nToPage As Int16
  nMinPage As Int16
  nMaxPage As Int16
  nCopies As Int16
  hInstance As Long
  lCustData As Long
  lpfnPrintHook As Long
  lpfnSetupHook As Long
  lpPrintTemplateName As Long ' Original: lpPrintTemplateName As String
  lpSetupTemplateName As Long ' Original: lpSetupTemplateName As String
  hPrintTemplate As Long
  hSetupTemplate As Long
End Type
'
Declare Function PrintDlg Lib "comdlg32.dll" Alias "PrintDlgA"_
 (pPrintdlg As PRINTDLG) As Long
'
OpenW # 1
'
/*****************************************************************/
/*
Print "Size of PRINTDLG-structure"
Print "We need 66 Bytes for lStructSize variable"
Print "Long = 4 Bytes,  Int16 = 2 Bytes"
Print " 14 * Long + 5 * Int16 = 66 Bytes / Thats OK, thats the structure
size"
Print "------------------------------------------------------------------"
Print "Now the size receive from SizeOf(PRINTDLG):"
Print SizeOf(PRINTDLG); " Bytes    Because?????"
'
PrintJob (Win_1.hWnd)
'
Do
  Sleep
Until IsNothing (Win_1)
End
'
Procedure PrintJob(hWnd As Long)
  '
  Dim DocName As String
  Dim nb As Long
  Dim hdcprinter As Handle

  Dim PD_ALLPAGES As Long  = $00000000
  Dim PD_PAGENUMS As Long = $00000002
  Dim PD_NOSELECTION As Long = $00000004
  Dim PD_NOPAGENUMS As Long = $00000008
  Dim PD_PRINTTOFILE As Long = $00000020
  Dim PD_PRINTSETUP As Long = $00000040
  Dim PD_RETURNDC As Long = $00000100
  Dim PD_RETURNDEFAULT As Long = $00000400
  Dim PD_DISABLEPRINTTOFILE As Long = $00080000
  Dim PD_HIDEPRINTTOFILE As Long = $00100000
  /* Dim PD_RETURNDC As Long = $00000100    /* in GB32
  /* Dim PD_PRINTSETUP As Long = $00000040  /* in GB32

  Dim pd As PRINTDLG
  '
  MemBFill *pd, Len(pd), 0
  /* with SizeOf(pd) = 68 no Printer dialog, have we 2 fill bytes??
  /* pd.lStructSize = SizeOf(pd)
  /*
  /* this works, we need 66 Bytes
  pd.lStructSize = SizeOf(pd) - 2
  pd.hwndOwner   = hWnd
  pd.hDevMode    = Null
  pd.hDevNames   = Null
  pd.flags       = PD_RETURNDC | PD_PRINTSETUP
  pd.nFromPage    = 1
  pd.nToPage    = $FFFF
  pd.nCopies     = 1

  nb = PrintDlg(pd)
  '
  If nb
    Dim di As DOCINFO
    hdcprinter     = pd.hdc
    di.cbSize      = Len(di)
    DocName = "Test"
    di.lpszDocName = V:DocName
    di.lpszOutput  = Null
    ~StartDoc(hdcprinter, di)
    ~StartPage(hdcprinter)
    ~TextOut(hdcprinter, 0, 0, "This should show up on your printer.", 36)
    ~EndPage(hdcprinter)
    ~EndDoc(hdcprinter)
    ~DeleteDC(hdcprinter)
  EndIf
  '
End Procedure

Good luck with GB32.

Eberhard


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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
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learn from a list like this.
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List Member "Eberhard Funck" <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de> wrote:
Hi GB32 user,

The same example, but another problem:
change
  pd.flags       = PD_RETURNDC | PD_PRINTSETUP
to 
  pd.flags       = PD_RETURNDC | PD_PAGENUMS

and see what happend.
By me an GB32 error.


' Johns and my old example for GFA Basic 16
' Now for GB32 and it don't run
'
Type DOCINFO
  cbSize As Long
  lpszDocName As Long
  lpszOutput As Long
End Type
'
Type PRINTDLG
  lStructSize As Long
  hwndOwner As Long
  hDevMode As Long
  hDevNames As Long
  hdc As Long
  flags As Long
  nFromPage As Int16
  nToPage As Int16
  nMinPage As Int16
  nMaxPage As Int16
  nCopies As Int16
  hInstance As Long
  lCustData As Long
  lpfnPrintHook As Long
  lpfnSetupHook As Long
  lpPrintTemplateName As Long ' Original: lpPrintTemplateName As String
  lpSetupTemplateName As Long ' Original: lpSetupTemplateName As String
  hPrintTemplate As Long
  hSetupTemplate As Long
End Type
'
Declare Function PrintDlg Lib "comdlg32.dll" Alias "PrintDlgA"_
(pPrintdlg As PRINTDLG) As Long
'
OpenW # 1
'
/*****************************************************************/
/*
Print "Size of PRINTDLG-structure"
Print "We need 66 Bytes for lStructSize variable"
Print "Long = 4 Bytes,  Int16 = 2 Bytes"
Print " 14 * Long + 5 * Int16 = 66 Bytes / Thats OK, thats the structure
size"
Print "------------------------------------------------------------------"
Print "Now the size receive from SizeOf(PRINTDLG):"
Print SizeOf(PRINTDLG); " Bytes    Because?????"
'
PrintJob (Win_1.hWnd)
'
Do
  Sleep
Until IsNothing (Win_1)
End
'
Procedure PrintJob(hWnd As Long)
  '
  Dim DocName As String
  Dim nb As Long
  Dim hdcprinter As Handle

  Dim PD_ALLPAGES As Long  = $00000000
  Dim PD_PAGENUMS As Long = $00000002
  Dim PD_NOSELECTION As Long = $00000004
  Dim PD_NOPAGENUMS As Long = $00000008
  Dim PD_PRINTTOFILE As Long = $00000020
  Dim PD_PRINTSETUP As Long = $00000040
  Dim PD_RETURNDC As Long = $00000100
  Dim PD_RETURNDEFAULT As Long = $00000400
  Dim PD_DISABLEPRINTTOFILE As Long = $00080000
  Dim PD_HIDEPRINTTOFILE As Long = $00100000

  Dim pd As PRINTDLG
  '
  MemBFill *pd, Len(pd), 0
  /* with SizeOf(pd) = 68 no Printer dialog, have we 2 fill bytes??
  /* pd.lStructSize = SizeOf(pd)
  /*
  /* this works, we need 66 Bytes
  pd.lStructSize = SizeOf(pd) - 2
  pd.hwndOwner   = hWnd
  pd.hDevMode    = Null
  pd.hDevNames   = Null
  pd.flags       = PD_RETURNDC | PD_PRINTSETUP
  pd.nFromPage    = 1
  pd.nToPage    = $FFFF
  pd.nCopies     = 1

  nb = PrintDlg(pd)
  '
  If nb
    Dim di As DOCINFO
    hdcprinter     = pd.hdc
    di.cbSize      = Len(di)
    DocName = "Test"
    di.lpszDocName = V:DocName
    di.lpszOutput  = Null
    ~StartDoc(hdcprinter, di)
    ~StartPage(hdcprinter)
    ~TextOut(hdcprinter, 0, 0, "This should show up on your printer.", 36)
    ~EndPage(hdcprinter)
    ~EndDoc(hdcprinter)
    ~DeleteDC(hdcprinter)
  EndIf
  '
End Procedure

Good luck with GB32.

Eberhard


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List Member "Bev & Lou Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
I, for one, agree; it's time for a new GFA32 list.

                                                   ->Bev<--


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> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> To GFA:
> would you please start a GFA(32) list?  PLEASE?  I don't know VB5/6 &
don't
> care.  I can't afford to upgrade GFA-W & don't care.  Now I have to suffer
> an increasing amount of traffic that has NOTHING to do with what I can do
or
> learn from a list like this.
> TomR.
>
>
> At 08:18 AM 25/10/99 -0700, you wrote:
> >List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> >Anyone converting their GFA16 code to GFA32 code.  Is it easy, difficult
or
> >impossible?
> >Dale
> >
> >http://gfawhelp.gfa.net
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List Member Michael Weigand <michael-weigand@foni.net> wrote:
Hi!

I saw a source by Joe Hurst that started with the line:

Module BrowseForFolder

I was unable to find anything in the diocumentation about the Module
statement. Any ideas?


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List Member "EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" <JoeHurst@snafu.de> wrote:
Here is the easy Win32-way with GB32:

OpenW # 1
Ocx CommDlg CD                  ' create common dialog class called CD for this
example
' open page-settings of common-dialog class
CD.ShowPageSetup
' and, to make it complete, after PageSetUp has closed, show
printer-settings-dialog:
CD.ShowPrint
'
Repeat                          ' wait until Window 1 is deleted
  Sleep
Until Win_1 Is Nothing          ' Win_1 = Object-Name of Win #1

This is ALL you need. With the created object "CD" you can access all
printer-properties, eg. CD.pgBottom, CD.COPIES etc.

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List Member "EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" <JoeHurst@snafu.de> wrote:
> Please, those of you who have it and have some experience with it, what would
> you recommend ? Buy it or not or "bye bye" ?

If we could get a valid promise by GFA that _every_ bugfix will _come_ and will
cost _nothing_, I would tell you: buy it.
If GFA (you read this ML, I bet!) won't give the promise: hm. There are no known
conditions about bugfixes...

Sorry, Joe

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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Hi Tom,
I was informed that a separate list for GFA-BASIC 32 would be in operation
soon. Just keep your panties on(G)
Dale



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don't
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
HI Eberhard,
Try this,
Dale
-----------------------------

Type DOCINFO
  cbSize As Long
  lpszDocName As Long
  lpszOutput As Long
End Type
'
Type PRINTDLG
  lStructSize As Long
  hwndOwner As Long
  hDevMode As Long
  hDevNames As Long
  hdc As Long
  flags As Long
  nFromPage As Int16
  nToPage As Int16
  nMinPage As Int16
  nMaxPage As Int16
  nCopies As Int16
  hInstance As Long
  lCustData As Long
  lpfnPrintHook As Long
  lpfnSetupHook As Long
  lpPrintTemplateName As Long ' Original: lpPrintTemplateName As String
  lpSetupTemplateName As Long ' Original: lpSetupTemplateName As String
  hPrintTemplate As Long
  hSetupTemplate As Long
End Type
' it didn't like the split line
Declare Function PrintDlg Lib "comdlg32.dll" Alias "PrintDlgA" (pPrintdlg As
PRINTDLG) As Long
'
OpenW # 1
'
/*****************************************************************/
/*
Print "Size of PRINTDLG-structure"
Print "We need 66 Bytes for lStructSize variable"
Print "Long = 4 Bytes,  Int16 = 2 Bytes"
Print " 14 * Long + 5 * Int16 = 66 Bytes / Thats OK, thats the structure"
'size""
Print "------------------------------------------------------------------"
Print "Now the size receive from SizeOf(PRINTDLG):"
Print SizeOf(PRINTDLG); " Bytes    Because?????"
'
PrintJob (Win_1.hWnd)
'
Do
  Sleep
Until IsNothing (Win_1)
End
'
Procedure PrintJob(hWnd As Long)
  '
  Dim DocName As String
  Dim nb As Long
  Dim hdcprinter As Handle

  Dim PD_ALLPAGES As Long  = $00000000
  Dim PD_PAGENUMS As Long = $00000002
  Dim PD_NOSELECTION As Long = $00000004
  Dim PD_NOPAGENUMS As Long = $00000008
  Dim PD_PRINTTOFILE As Long = $00000020
  Dim PD_PRINTSETUP As Long = $00000040
  Dim PD_RETURNDC As Long = $00000100
  Dim PD_RETURNDEFAULT As Long = $00000400
  Dim PD_DISABLEPRINTTOFILE As Long = $00080000
  Dim PD_HIDEPRINTTOFILE As Long = $00100000

  Dim pd As PRINTDLG
  '
  MemBFill *pd, Len(pd), 0
  /* with SizeOf(pd) = 68 no Printer dialog, have we 2 fill bytes??
  /* pd.lStructSize = SizeOf(pd)
  /*
  /* this works, we need 66 Bytes
  pd.lStructSize = SizeOf(pd) - 2
  pd.hwndOwner   = hWnd
  pd.hDevMode    = Null
  pd.hDevNames   = Null
  pd.flags       = PD_RETURNDC | PD_PRINTSETUP
  pd.nFromPage    = 1
  pd.nToPage    = $FFFF
  pd.nCopies     = 1

  nb = PrintDlg(pd)
  '
  If nb
    Dim di As DOCINFO
    hdcprinter     = pd.hdc
    di.cbSize      = Len(di)
    DocName = "Test"
    di.lpszDocName = V:DocName
    di.lpszOutput  = Null
    ~StartDoc(hdcprinter, di)
    ~StartPage(hdcprinter)
    ~TextOut(hdcprinter, 0, 0, "This should show up on your printer.", 36)
    ~EndPage(hdcprinter)
    ~EndDoc(hdcprinter)
    ~DeleteDC(hdcprinter)
  EndIf
  '
End Procedure


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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
For easy online travel reservations, go to Internet Travel Network:
http://www.itn.net

eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/list/lbnews
Free Web-based e-mail groups by eGroups.com

The five lines above are all that is added to e-mail - they are the last
lines in each e-mail.

I suggest that one or more of you GFA(32) users take a look - it's FREE, 
& hasn't been down very often.  This is the bottom of one from the LB
list "lbnews".  I've had 2 or 3 yrs' experience w/ this one, but there
are many others to choose from.

Go visit: http://www.eGroups.com/  & see how to set one up.  It can be
set up to block anybody not a subscriber, just like the one GFA put up.

<G>
TomR.

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Subject: Re: [gfabasic] 16 to 32
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
<G>
Am about ready to pull'em up & go home <G>.  Don't mean to be
crabby, but now most of the notes are for (32) & I suspect that
most who go to it will drop all work w/ (16).  I have enough
trouble getting help now.  Such is life, I guess.
<G>
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At 03:20 PM 25/10/99 -0700, you wrote:
>List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
>Hi Tom,
>I was informed that a separate list for GFA-BASIC 32 would be in operation
>soon. Just keep your panties on(G)
>Dale
>
>
>
>http://gfawhelp.gfa.net
>adbryant@msn.com
>
>> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
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>> would you please start a GFA(32) list?  PLEASE?  I don't know VB5/6 &
>don't
>> care.  I can't afford to upgrade GFA-W & don't care.  Now I have to suffer
>> an increasing amount of traffic that has NOTHING to do with what I can do
>or
>> learn from a list like this.
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I received this from GFA. Sven Thomas, who sets up all this stuff have been
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By the way: We have set up a new mailing list for GB32 only.
Will post details tomorrow, it is 0 o'clock here in Germany.

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List Member GFA Online <service@gfa.net> wrote:

We have set up a separate GB32 related Mailing List.

It's like this one, but has a different EMail address.

The list address is 

             gb32-list@gfa.net


This List is hosted by GFA.NET and uses the well know Majordomo Software.
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List Member GFA Online <service@gfa.net> wrote:

++++ GFA-BASIC 32 German available ++++

As most of you have figured out in the meantime,
GFA-BASIC 32 has been released into the public.

The release is available first in German only. While
the Basic itself is capable of using English language
(as the 16 Bit GFA-BASIC for Windows), the manuals are
not translated yet.

Because of the unexpected success in the first weeks,
GFA Software Technologies has decided to wait some
time before exploring the German spoken markets to
avoid any delays in shipping.

GFA-BASIC 32, already known as GB32 as well, has been
rewritten from the scratch, so not only we have the best
possible port to 32 Bit platforms, but this way GB32
has fixed every known bug from the old 16 Bit GFA-BASIC
for Windows. GB32 is a perfect combination of a wide
backward compatibility (especially to 16 Bit GFA-BASIC
for Windows) and modern development technologies.
It stands in the tradition of the well-known GFA-BASIC
dialect and that means being unbeatable fast and tiny.

The GFA Website (German) www.gfasoft.gfa.net has been
updated and contains information in German.

GB32 requires a 32 Bit Platform (Win32), currently
Windows 95, Windows 98 and Windows NT (recommended: 4.0+,
limited functionality with 3.51 due to OS restrictions).

Registered GFA User will benefit from the introduction prices:

If you order up to November 20th 1999, you will receive
special discounts:

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
YOUR CURRENT VERSION         SPECIAL PRICE       AFTER NOVEMBER 20th

16 Bit GFA-BASIC Windows       510.00 DM             890.00 DM
GFA-BASIC for MS-DOS           690.00 DM             950.00 DM
GFA-BASIC for Atari            690.00 DM             950.00 DM
GFA-BASIC for Amiga            690.00 DM             950.00 DM

(none, new customer)           850.00 DM           1.050.00 DM
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Further questions can be directed to the GFA Sales Team by phone
+49 700.30306060, fax +49 2161.43825 or email sales@gfa.net.


Up to end of this year GFA Software Technologies plans to
release an updated version with database support, modules
(Includes) and flexible use of OCX interfaces.


All GB32 customers are asked to register. Registered user can
contact technical support and will receive information about
further development steps.
In about one or two weeks the bugfix area with restricted
access will go online. Currently, bugfixes will be offered
for download for registered user only and are served free of
charge (as long as they do not contain major improvements;
in this case they will be released as updates).


Mid of this week GFA Software will release a Trial version
for those who want to have their hands on the Basic first
to give it a try. The Trial will come with some German
manuals, but the Setup and the Basic itself are bi-language,
i.e. German and English, so English spoken people can use
the core set as well. The Trial version comes without
support and is time limited to 60 days. That is a license
restriction, i.e. there is no time bomb. Comparable to the
Trial for 16 Bit GFA-BASIC for Windows, the new Trial is
restricted in use: limited length of source and no ability
to create Exe files.



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Subject: Re: [gfabasic] Gfa Basic 32 the secon problem
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List Member John Findlay <Jayef@compuserve.com> wrote:

Eberhard,

> Johns and my old example for GFA Basic 16
  Now for GB32 and it don't run <


Perhaps we will have to work differently now. VB like! Yuk. . .

Although someone said that the following code would still work.

  WHILE GetMessage(*msg., NULL, 0, 0)
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    ~DispatchMessage(*msg.)
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I can't remeber who said it.

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List Member Jim Pennington <Jim@x-act.net> wrote:

The newsletter that I received  started with a question about overlapped printing
followed by "here's what I would do" and had nothing more. Was more cut off
than just the attachment?

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List Member "B.M.C.S." <bmcs@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
I assume most others on this list will have received notification from GFA
that GB32 has been released or escaped ;-))

I am keen to buy, but at current exchange rates the price of DM 510.0 (until
November 20, 1999) is only just within my price tolerance range and I am not
prepared to continue to pay for "extras" that should have been included in
the original package.

What I would like to know is:

1. Can I now purchase (at the above price) the German edition ?

2. If I can, will I be expected to pay for the English edition of the
documentation ? (which will probably not become available until some time
after November 20, 1999).

3. Quote from GFA notification: "Up to end of this year GFA Software
Technologies plans to release an updated version with database support,
modules (Includes) and flexible use of OCX interfaces."

If I am an existing user of GB32 is GFA expecting me to pay for this
"updated version" ?

4. Quote from GFA notification: "Currently, bugfixes will be offered for
download for registered user only and are served free of charge (as long as
they do not contain major improvements; in this case they will be released
as updates)".

Those of you that were part of the GFA CompuServe Forum will probably
remember the long running debate about what GFA thought was a "major
improvement" and we users saw as a "bug-fix". When I count up the money I
have paid out for GFA DOS & GFA 16 "improvements / bug-fixes", I could have
bought 2 or 3 other programming software packages.
Is GFA going to lead us down this road again ?

Heck, I am starting to sound like a Tom <G> Record - that's creepy ;-)))

Regards,
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List Member gunnar.boenicke@t-online.de (Gunnar Boenicke) wrote:
Hi!

_Mess returns a value. I need a file (list) with these value.

For instance:   WM_PAINT = 21 and so on.

Where can i download that list, or can anybody send me that list by email
please.

Bye

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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Hi Gunnar,
If you have the GFAWHELP file select MESSAGES from the main page. It should
show all the WM_ messages and also others.
Dale

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> List Member gunnar.boenicke@t-online.de (Gunnar Boenicke) wrote:
> Hi!
>
> _Mess returns a value. I need a file (list) with these value.
>
> For instance:   WM_PAINT = 21 and so on.
>
> Where can i download that list, or can anybody send me that list by email
> please.
>
> Bye
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Hi Jim,
I really don't know. I will look at the news letter and see. Perhaps I just
screwed up!
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> The newsletter that I received  started with a question about overlapped
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Hi Jim,
I resent a copy of GFANL151 to you. Let me know if it is different than the
one you received before.
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List Member "EDV-Service J. Hurst, Berlin" <JoeHurst@snafu.de> wrote:
> I saw a source by Joe Hurst that started with the line:
I was the one who created the source :-)

> I was unable to find anything in the diocumentation about the Module
> statement. Any ideas?
Yes :-)

> Module BrowseForFolder
The Module-Syntax is already implemented, but cannot be used at the moment
(perhaps in the next release).
Up to then, you have to copy the part between "module" and "end module" directly
to your main application code.

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List Member "Roland Walter" <roland@rowalt.de> wrote:
> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Does anybody have a copy of gfastart.hlp?  The rest of the helpfiles
> on Roland's site refuse to run without it.
> Thanks.

GFASTART.HLP was the very first file name only.
After I had splitted the help files into GFABAS01,02...
Because of this there is no information missing
without GFASTART.HLP.

Ooooo sorry, I had a look at the GFABAS01.HLP and saw
where comes Your question from. Two Winhelp macro
tried to call the old file name. I have corrected this.
By the way: I know well that it's better to use the
internal Winhelp variable qchPath if a macro calls
the own help file. This variable contains always the
correct file name ;-)

If You like You can download the new version.
Also I have updated the GFABAS02.HLP file. No it contains
an extra listing for recieving of data using 119.200 Baud.

Bye, Roland
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List Member "Roland Walter" <roland@rowalt.de> wrote:

> I need to open a Com-Port with "9600,N,8,1" for a RS485 card.
> In GFA16 it was very simple with OpenComm, BuildComm, ReadComm and WriteComm.
> I have no knowledge about API32.

At my server (http://www.rowalt.de/gfabasic/) there are some links
where You can get Win32 API documentation and also the header files.
At Win32 the OpenComm/WriteComm function does not longer exist.
Instead You have to use a File function. This can also be done
with a GFA function, for example:
		Open "com1" for Update As # 1
Note that Microsoft has significantly changed the COM handling,
so You really should have a look into the API documentation.

Bye, Roland

[Rest is taken from API documentation for a short overview]
-------------------------------------------------------------
PlatformSDK 

Modification of Communications Resource Settings

When the CreateFile function opens a handle to a serial 
communications resource, the system initializes and configures the 
resource according to the values set up the last time the resource 
was opened. Preserving the previous settings enables the user to 
retain the settings specified through an mode command when the device 
is reopened. The values inherited from the previous open operation 
include the configuration settings of the device control block (a DCB 
structure) and the time-out values used in I/O operations. If the 
device has never been opened, it is configured with the system 
defaults. 

To determine the initial configuration of a serial communications 
resource, a process calls the GetCommState function, which fills in a 
serial port DCB structure with the current configuration settings. To 
modify this configuration, a process specifies a DCB structure in a 
call to the SetCommState function. 

Members of the DCB structure specify the configuration settings such 
as the baud rate, the number of data bits per byte, and the number of 
stop bits per byte. Other DCB members specify special characters and 
enable parity checking and flow control. When a process needs to 
modify only a few of these configuration settings, it should first 
call GetCommState to fill in a DCB structure with the current 
configuration. Then the process can adjust the important values in 
the DCB structure and reconfigure the device by calling SetCommState 
and specifying the modified DCB structure. This procedure ensures 
that the unmodified members of the DCB structure contain appropriate 
values. For example, a common error is to configure a device with a 
DCB structure in which the structure's XonChar member is equal to the 
XoffChar member. 

The BuildCommDCB function provides another way to modify a DCB 
structure. BuildCommDCB uses a string with the same form as the 
command-line arguments of the mode command to specify the baud rate, 
parity scheme, number of stop bits, and number of data bits. The 
remaining members of DCB are not changed by this function, except 
that the appropriate members are set to disable XON/XOFF and hardware 
flow control. BuildCommDCB only modifies a DCB structure; it does not 
reconfigure the device. 

A process can reconfigure a communications resource by using the 
GetCommProperties function to get information from a device driver 
about the configuration settings that it supports. The process can 
use this information to avoid specifying a configuration that is not 
supported. 

The SetCommState function reconfigures the communications resource, 
but it does not affect the internal output and input buffers of the 
specified driver. The buffers are not flushed, and pending read and 
write operations are not terminated prematurely. 

A process reinitializes a communications resource by using the 
SetupComm function, which performs the following tasks: 

Terminates pending read and write operations, even if they have not 
been completed. Discards unread characters and frees the internal 
output and input buffers of the driver associated with the specified 
resource. Reallocates the internal output and input buffers. 

A process is not required to call SetupComm. If it does not, the 
resource's driver initializes the device with the default settings 
the first time that the communications resource handle is used. 
---------------------------------------------------------------
Configuring a Communications Resource

The following example opens a handle to COM1 and fills in a DCB 
structure with the current configuration. The DCB structure is then 
modified and used to reconfigure the device. 

DCB dcb;
HANDLE hCom;
DWORD dwError;
BOOL fSuccess;

hCom = CreateFile( "COM1",
    GENERIC_READ | GENERIC_WRITE,
    0,    // comm devices must be opened w/exclusive-access 
    NULL, // no security attributes 
    OPEN_EXISTING, // comm devices must use OPEN_EXISTING 
    0,    // not overlapped I/O 
    NULL  // hTemplate must be NULL for comm devices 
    );

if (hCom == INVALID_HANDLE_VALUE) 
{
    dwError = GetLastError();

    // handle error 
}

// Omit the call to SetupComm to use the default queue sizes.
// Get the current configuration.

fSuccess = GetCommState(hCom, &dcb);

if (!fSuccess) 
{
    // Handle the error. 
}

// Fill in the DCB: baud=9600, 8 data bits, no parity, 1 stop bit. 

dcb.BaudRate = 9600;
dcb.ByteSize = 8;
dcb.Parity = NOPARITY;
dcb.StopBits = ONESTOPBIT;

fSuccess = SetCommState(hCom, &dcb);

if (!fSuccess) 
{
    // Handle the error. 
}
------------------------------------------------------------------
BuildCommDCBAndTimeouts

The BuildCommDCBAndTimeouts function translates a device-definition string into appropriate device-control block codes and then places these codes into a device control block. The function can also set up time-out values,
 including the possibility of no time-outs, for a device; the function's behavior in this regard varies based on the contents of the device-definition string. 

BOOL BuildCommDCBAndTimeouts(
  LPCTSTR lpDef,                  // pointer to device-control string
  LPDCB lpDCB,                    // pointer to device-control block
  LPCOMMTIMEOUTS  lpCommTimeouts  // pointer to comm time-out structure
);
 


Parameters



lpDef 

Pointer to a null-terminated string that specifies device-control information for the device. The function takes this string, parses it, and then sets appropriate values in the DCB structure pointed to by lpDCB. 

lpDCB 

Pointer to a DCB structure that the function fills with information from the device-control information string pointed to by lpDef. This DCB structure defines the control settings for a communications device. 

lpCommTimeouts 

Pointer to a COMMTIMEOUTS structure that the function can use to set device time-out values. 

The BuildCommDcbAndTimeouts function modifies its time-out setting behavior based on the presence or absence of a "TO=xxx" substring in the string specified by lpDef: 

If that string contains the substring "TO=ON", the function sets up total read and write time-out values for the device based on the time-out structure pointed to by lpCommTimeouts. If that string contains the substring
 "TO=OFF", the function sets up the device with no time-outs. If that string contains neither of the aforementioned "TO=xxx" substrings, the function ignores the time-out structure pointed to by lpCommTimeouts. The time-
out structure will not be accessed. 



Return Values

If the function succeeds, the return value is nonzero.

If the function fails, the return value is zero. To get extended 
error information, call GetLastError. 

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List Member "Russell Hayward" <russ@softhome.net> wrote:
> _Mess returns a value. I need a file (list) with these value.
>
> For instance:   WM_PAINT = 21 and so on.
>
> Where can i download that list, or can anybody send me that list by email
> please.

You can use my constants program to get the values of any constant defined
in WIN16 or WIN32. You can download it from Dale's website
www.gfawhelp.gfa.net or direct from www.corpse.f9.co.uk/progs/constants.zip.

HTH,
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List Member gunnar.boenicke@t-online.de (Gunnar Boenicke) wrote:
Hi Russel,

i just download your program from a other place. It is a nice program, if
you have the words (like WM_CLOSE) and you search for the number. I have =
the
number and i search for the word! So i cant use your programm for that.

What i need is the WINDOWS.H file or the others *.H files. Up to now i di=
d
not know that so many *.H files exist. Your program shows that by the ADD
buttom.

Can you mayby mail the *.H files to me?

Thanks for your answer.

Gunnar
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An: gfabasic@gfa.net <gfabasic@gfa.net>
Datum: Dienstag, 26. Oktober 1999 21:19
Betreff: Re: [gfabasic] _MESS - Code


>List Member "Russell Hayward" <russ@softhome.net> wrote:
>> _Mess returns a value. I need a file (list) with these value.
>>
>> For instance:   WM_PAINT =3D 21 and so on.
>>
>> Where can i download that list, or can anybody send me that list by em=
ail
>> please.
>
>You can use my constants program to get the values of any constant defin=
ed
>in WIN16 or WIN32. You can download it from Dale's website
>www.gfawhelp.gfa.net or direct from
www.corpse.f9.co.uk/progs/constants.zip.
>
>HTH,
>Russell Hayward
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Thank you, Roland.  I have all now & am trying to translate to English.
Would you like copies when done?  It will take a while because you use
improper German & my translator can't handle it until I get all of the 
new words & phrases translated into it.
<G>
TomR.


At 06:55 PM 26/10/99 +0100, you wrote:
>List Member "Roland Walter" <roland@rowalt.de> wrote:
>> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> Does anybody have a copy of gfastart.hlp?  The rest of the helpfiles
>> on Roland's site refuse to run without it.
>> Thanks.
>
>GFASTART.HLP was the very first file name only.
>After I had splitted the help files into GFABAS01,02...
>Because of this there is no information missing
>without GFASTART.HLP.
>
>Ooooo sorry, I had a look at the GFABAS01.HLP and saw
>where comes Your question from. Two Winhelp macro
>tried to call the old file name. I have corrected this.
>By the way: I know well that it's better to use the
>internal Winhelp variable qchPath if a macro calls
>the own help file. This variable contains always the
>correct file name ;-)
>
>If You like You can download the new version.
>Also I have updated the GFABAS02.HLP file. No it contains
>an extra listing for recieving of data using 119.200 Baud.
>
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Gunnar & others, if interested...
I can put the Win31 *.h files online for download, but will take some time
because there are a great many & they amount to about 1.5M.

What I have is from MSVC, VC++ & the Win31SDK.
<G>
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List Member "Russell Hayward" <russ@softhome.net> wrote:
> i just download your program from a other place. It is a nice program, if
> you have the words (like WM_CLOSE) and you search for the number. I have
the
> number and i search for the word! So i cant use your programm for that.

I'm glad you like the program. There are 2 ways of doing what you want using
it. One is to just type in WM_ to the edit box. The lower combobox will now
be filled with all the WM constants, you can then go through them to find
the number of the one you want.

Another way to do it is to convert the number you are looking for into 4
character hexadecimal prefixed with 0x, e.g 15 becomes 0x000f. Type the
number into the edit box and select "Constant Content (anywhere)" from the
topmost combo. The lower combo will now be filled with all constants that
have that value, including any WM_ constants.

> Can you mayby mail the *.H files to me?

I think Tom can be of most use to you there, I only have the Windows 95
headers and they're even larger.

Good luck,
Russell Hayward

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Try this to scale print for different default printer settings
This program divides the vertical resolution by the amount of lines
you want for each page and scales the fonts and line spacing accordingly

Roy Burgess   rebburrr@as.net

This is the code

ORG =3D OEM_FIXED_FONT
ORG& =3D SYSTEM_FONT
SETFONT ORG&
GETFONT ORG&
RFONT NAME P%
FONT "MODERN",ITALIC 0,WEIGHT 700,WIDTH W,HEIGHT H
FONT ORIENTATION 0,STRIKEOUT 0,UNDERLINE 1,ESCAPEMENT 0
FONT FAMILY FF_ROMAN,CHARSET OEM_CHARSET,PITCH FIXED_PITCH,QUALITY 1
FONT TO PRINTERFONT&
SETFONT PRINTERFONT&
i% =3D 0
i% =3D i% - H
FOR L% =3D 1 TO 60    // set this to the same value as H
  i% =3D i% + H
  TEXT 0,i%,"THIS IS LINE # " + STR$(L%)

  //                XX& determines the tab setting for each line of =
print
  TEXT XX& / 2,i%,"FOR TABBED PRINTING"
NEXT L%
NEW FRAME
ENDDOC
FREEFONT PRINTERFONT&
FREEDC DC&
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http-equiv=3DContent-Type>
<META content=3D"MSHTML 5.00.2314.1000" name=3DGENERATOR>
<STYLE></STYLE>
</HEAD>
<BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Try this to scale print for different =
default=20
printer settings</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This program divides the vertical =
resolution by the=20
amount of lines</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>you want for each page and scales the =
fonts and=20
line spacing accordingly</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Roy Burgess&nbsp;&nbsp; <A=20
href=3D"mailto:rebburrr@as.net">rebburrr@as.net</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This is the code</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>ORG =3D OEM_FIXED_FONT<BR>ORG&amp; =3D=20
SYSTEM_FONT<BR>SETFONT ORG&amp;<BR>GETFONT ORG&amp;<BR>RFONT NAME =
P%<BR>FONT=20
"MODERN",ITALIC 0,WEIGHT 700,WIDTH W,HEIGHT H<BR>FONT ORIENTATION =
0,STRIKEOUT=20
0,UNDERLINE 1,ESCAPEMENT 0<BR>FONT FAMILY FF_ROMAN,CHARSET =
OEM_CHARSET,PITCH=20
FIXED_PITCH,QUALITY 1<BR>FONT TO PRINTERFONT&amp;<BR>SETFONT=20
PRINTERFONT&amp;<BR>i% =3D 0<BR>i% =3D i% - H<BR>FOR L% =3D 1 TO =
60&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
// set this to the same value as H<BR>&nbsp; i% =3D i% + H<BR>&nbsp; =
TEXT=20
0,i%,"THIS IS LINE # " + STR$(L%)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;=20
//&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
XX&amp; determines the tab setting for each line of print<BR>&nbsp; TEXT =
XX&amp;=20
/ 2,i%,"FOR TABBED PRINTING"<BR>NEXT L%<BR>NEW =
FRAME<BR>ENDDOC<BR>FREEFONT=20
PRINTERFONT&amp;<BR>FREEDC DC&amp;<BR>SETDC =
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Gunnar et.al.

http://TiGeR1.webjump.com/winh/WINH.ZIP       65683
http://TiGeR1.webjump.com/winh/WINH02.ZIP     45327
http://TiGeR1.webjump.com/winh/WINH03.ZIP     59172
http://TiGeR1.webjump.com/winh/WINH04.ZIP     36131
http://TiGeR1.webjump.com/winh/WINH05.ZIP     49703
http://TiGeR1.webjump.com/winh/WINH06.ZIP     57885
http://TiGeR1.webjump.com/winh/WINH07.ZIP      9240
http://TiGeR1.webjump.com/winh/WINH08.ZIP     32062
http://TiGeR1.webjump.com/winh/WINH09.ZIP     58258
http://TiGeR1.webjump.com/winh/WINH10.ZIP     84952

You may also want:
http://TiGeR1.webjump.com/sdk/allmmiav.ZIP   350573
http://TiGeR1.webjump.com/sdk/mci_hlp.ZIP   2698424
http://TiGeR1.webjump.com/sdk/win31wh.ZIP   2590553

2 are mci-related, last is win32sdk helpfile, a MUST!

A lot of the sdk helpfile is on Dale's site in his
own helpfile.  If anybody translates the others that he
doesn't have, please send them to me - I am building an
*.rtm help system based on the whole sdk helpfile.  Send
them to Dale, also - he will add them to his helpfile.

http://gfa.net/adbryant/files.htm  to get Dale's file.

There are 2,104 entries in the sdk helpfile!

Please bear w/ me - my head is exploding, so I may have
goofed a bit.  If the URLs w/ capital letters don't work,
try'em with lo-case.  The last 3 winhxx files *may* just
be repeats of 4 above them.  I'm in trouble at the moment
& can hardly watch that I spell things correctly.

Given time & a shift to another website, I can put up the
*.lib & *.obj files that exist in the SDK.  Sorry, but a
great number of the helpfiles are DOS, callable only by
the various *.exes.  I have no other way to read them or
make use of them.  Mci & win31wh are the most important win
helpfiles.

Also later, might post some files from 2 or 3 other "C"
platforms - there are *some* differences, if I remember
correctly.

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List Member Michael Weigand <michael-weigand@foni.net> wrote:
Hi!

Just wanted to let you know that the demo version of GB32 is now available
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From: "Roland Walter" <roland@rowalt.de>
To: gfabasic@gfa.net
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 20:35:40 +0100
Subject: Re: [gfabasic] Richedit (was: win31 *.h)
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List Member "Roland Walter" <roland@rowalt.de> wrote:

> A lot of the sdk helpfile is on Dale's site in his
> own helpfile.  If anybody translates the others that he
> doesn't have, please send them to me - I am building an
> *.rtm help system based on the whole sdk helpfile.

If You do so it might be there is a half automatic way.
Not very fast I think but might be better then by hand.
My idea would be the following:
1.) decompile the *.hlp file using HELPDECO.EXE into
    RTF file(s)
2.) Build a text editor based on RICHED.DLL which is
    a 16 bit DLL. The attachement contains a not yet
    ready example code which should be good enough
    for this job. It's a much more simple listing
    then the other I have seen. It works WITHOUT
    import of 32 bit functions.
3.) With the riched.dll You can check the text letter
    by letter for bold/italic/underlined and so on.
    Using this way it might be relatively simple to
    create a converter. Load an RTF file into the
    RichEdit editor and then use the following
    strategy:
  FOR i%=BeginOfRichText TO EndOfRichText
    IF AskRichEditIsLetterBold=TRUE
      IF bold!=TRUE 'Was the text before just bold?
        PutOut(ThePlainLetter)
      ELSE
        bold!=TRUE
        PutOut("<b>")
        PutOut(ThePlainLetter)
      ENDIF
    ELSE 'Letter is not bold
      IF bold!=TRUE 'Was the text before bold?
        bold!=FALSE
        PutOut("</b>")
        PutOut(ThePlainLetter)
      ELSE
        PutOut(ThePlainLetter)
      ENDIF
    ENDIF
  NEXT i%

Bye, Roland
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List Member "Roland Walter" <roland@rowalt.de> wrote:
> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Thank you, Roland.  I have all now & am trying to translate to English.
> Would you like copies when done?
Yes, of course :-)

> It will take a while because you use
> improper German & my translator can't handle it until I get all of the 
> new words & phrases translated into it.

I believe You. Especialy the very first beginning is full of idioms
I think. When I wrote these articles it was really not planned to
make an english version...
If there are special phrases absolutlely not to understand You
can send them to me.

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Thank you.  There will be MANY, I fear.
<G>
TomR.


At 08:35 PM 28/10/99 +0100, you wrote:
>List Member "Roland Walter" <roland@rowalt.de> wrote:
>> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> Thank you, Roland.  I have all now & am trying to translate to English.
>> Would you like copies when done?
>Yes, of course :-)
>
>> It will take a while because you use
>> improper German & my translator can't handle it until I get all of the 
>> new words & phrases translated into it.
>
>I believe You. Especialy the very first beginning is full of idioms
>I think. When I wrote these articles it was really not planned to
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>If there are special phrases absolutlely not to understand You
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
I've seen something done, but NOT *how* it was done.

If something is run that would normally evoke a user response, it
can be trapped & automatically responded to.  Such things as:
press an OK button or a Continue button.  The dialog that is 
thrown onscreen is something like an ALERT, it just requires a
response from the user, nothing more.  It *can* be responded to
automatically, but I don't know how.  Direct access to the dialog
is not possible (or it could be avoided).

Suggestions?
<G>
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List Member "B.M.C.S." <bmcs@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
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Yes it's available! I have tried to download it 6 times and each time it
tells me the file is corrupted, which is not surprising since each download
produces a different size file ( anything between 4 & 7 Mb.

Over several years I have downloaded numerous files from sites around the
world and this is the first time I have ever experienced this.

Is anybody else having this problem ?

Regards
Dave Barton



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List Member Michael Weigand <michael-weigand@foni.net> wrote:
Hi!

Just wanted to let you know that the demo version of GB32 is now available
at the GFA site.

(I hope the crossposting to both lists is OK this time)


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List Member "B.M.C.S." <bmcs@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
Please ignore my earlier message. GBTRIAL.EXE downloaded successfully on the
8th attempt.

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List Member "Bev & Lou Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
Funny ... I can't even find it.  Will someone please give me an address!!!

                                                   ->Bev<--


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> Yes it's available! I have tried to download it 6 times and each time it
> tells me the file is corrupted, which is not surprising since each
download
> produces a different size file ( anything between 4 & 7 Mb.
>
> Over several years I have downloaded numerous files from sites around the
> world and this is the first time I have ever experienced this.
>
> Is anybody else having this problem ?
>
> Regards
> Dave Barton
>
>
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List Member "Sjaak Aarnoutse" <aarnouts@zeelandnet.nl> wrote:

> Yes it's available! I have tried to download it 6 times and each time it
> tells me the file is corrupted, which is not surprising since each download
> produces a different size file ( anything between 4 & 7 Mb.
> 
> Is anybody else having this problem ?

Not me, I had a fast and reliable download. The file should be 6.9 
Mb ,2 1/2 minutes with my new cable-modem!

met vriendelijke groet,

Sjaak Aarnoutse

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List Member "Georg Veichtlbauer" <veichtlbauer@gmx.at> wrote:
Try a download manager, such as getright, which even can resume broken
downloads....

Bye,
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List Member "Andras Szalay" <a.szalay@mail.matav.hu> wrote:
I downloaded the GFA32 demo version and I made a benchmark test,
what I use for long time to compare different GFA implementations
(ATARI, DOS, GFA16). The program is a 4K FFT test, so it tests almost
exclusively floating point performance. I did not have too much porblems
to install it for GFA32. The biggest work was to shrink it into the demo
version, which accepts only 200 lines of code, and my test was about 350.
But from the other side, you can put several commands into one line,
so I could rearrange it so that it fits. I had two surprises, that are not
documented in the help file:

1.) GFA32 accepts PROCEDUREs, but as I tried to use one which is
called by reference, it was rejected with "type mismatch". As I changed
it from PROCEDURE to Sub (is this the VB equivalent of PROCEDURE?)
then it worked.
2.) Although the Help defines TIMER identically to GFA16, it is not.
I found out that instead of returning a 32 bit integer value of milliseconds,
it returns a floating point value in seconds. 

The accuracy of the floating point calculations is about the same as 
from the DOS or GFA16 results. 

Here are the timing results of a 4K real FFT on my 233 MHz MMX:

DOS Interpreter: 97 msec
DOS Compiled: 20 msec
GFA16 Interpreter: 108 msec
GFA16 Compiler: 28 msec
GFA32 : 64 msec

As far as I understand, the GFA32 should be treated as a compiled 
program, and a stand-alone version will not be faster as the one
running from the editor. In this case the results are not impressive.
If somebody is interested in details, I can send the program.

		Andras Szalay
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Hi Andras,
I would like to see the program. Could you attach to a message?
adbryant@gfa.net

http://gfawhelp.gfa.net
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> As far as I understand, the GFA32 should be treated as a compiled
> program, and a stand-alone version will not be faster as the one
> running from the editor. In this case the results are not impressive.
> If somebody is interested in details, I can send the program.
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

29/10/99 10:41:02 PM   I'm lost!   2910xx1-

bmp, 24-bit, 100x20, vert lines
424D0306 00000000 00003604 00002800  BM=B7=B7=B7=B7=B7=B7=B7=B76=B7=B7=B7(=
=B7
00006400 00001400 00000100 08000000  =B7=B7d=B7=B7=B7=B7=B7=B7=B7=B7=B7=B7=
=B7=B7=B7

pic, 16-bit(probably), 100x20, vert lines
0100AE0F 50526400 1400C800 01100000  =B7=B7=AE=B7PRd=B7=B7=B7=C8=B7=B7=B7=B7=
=B7
0000FF7F 00000000 00000000 00000000  =B7=B7=FF=7F=B7=B7=B7=B7=B7=B7=B7=B7=B7=
=B7=B7=B7

The above:
lines are black, blue, red, green, each 10 pixels wide, beginning w/ a=20
1-pixel white, separated by a 1-pixel white, ending w/ a 1-pixel white.

The *.pic generated each time, regardless of the *.bmp's colordepth,=20
is identical to the one above.  I've played w/ 4-bit, 8-bit & 24-bit=20
*.bmps.  The *.pic is little more than a screenshot, generated after=20
loading the *.bmp into load_pic.lst (an example).  I've modified it=20
slightly to not capture the whole screen - I take just the portion=20
covered by the *.bmp.

My *.pic is probably 16-bit since my screen colordepth is 16-bit.  I=20
say "probably" because I see no way to determine either the image size=20
or colordepth from the *.pic file.  *That* is the scope of this=20
project & plea for help.

I see the details I need in the code, but want to know how to dig them=20
out of the file this thing writes.  If the info isn't there, how might=20
I add it to the file so it can be read by another program that hasn't=20
loaded the *.bmp?  The load routine gets the info somehow by loading=20
the darned file, but I don't see how!  I guess it is so obvious it=20
just doesn't show up for me.

Will somebody please explain this to me?  TomR.

The load & save routines follow:

PROCEDURE laden(file$)
  OPEN "i",#1,file$
  y% =3D 0, bildanzahl% =3D INP&(#1)
  FOR i% =3D 1 TO bildanzahl%
    bytes% =3D INP&(#1)
    bild$ =3D INPUT$(bytes%,#1)
    PUT 0,y%,bild$
    ADD y%,DPEEK(V:bild$ + 4)
  NEXT i%
  CLOSE #1
RETURN

PROCEDURE speichern(file$)
  bytes% =3D GETSIZE(0,0,bmw& - 1,bmh& - 1)   'Speicherbedarf f=FCr die=20
ganze Grafik
  bildanzahl% =3D CEIL(bytes% / 32000)   'Bildanzahl (nur 32K pro String)
  OPEN "o",#1,file$
  OUT& #1,bildanzahl%            'Bildanzahl speichern
  zeilen% =3D CEIL(bmh& / bildanzahl%)     'Zeilen pro Bild
  FOR y% =3D 0 TO bmh& - 1 STEP zeilen%
    yend% =3D MIN(bmh& - 1,y% + zeilen% - 1)
    GET 0,y%,bmw& - 1,yend%,bild$
    OUT& #1,LEN(bild$)          'Zeichenanzahl speichern
    BPUT #1,V:bild$,LEN(bild$)
  NEXT y%
  CLOSE #1
RETURN

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List Member Michael Weigand <michael-weigand@foni.net> wrote:
At 02:34 30.10.99 +0200, Andras Szalay wrote:

>Here are the timing results of a 4K real FFT on my 233 MHz MMX:
>
>DOS Interpreter: 97 msec
>DOS Compiled: 20 msec
>GFA16 Interpreter: 108 msec
>GFA16 Compiler: 28 msec
>GFA32 : 64 msec
>
>As far as I understand, the GFA32 should be treated as a compiled 
>program, and a stand-alone version will not be faster as the one
>running from the editor. In this case the results are not impressive.

I'm not sure, but I think the operating system has an influence on the
results. With DOS you're working in a single task environment: All the
power of your processor is available for your program. Win16 has a simple
multitasking feature, which is not much more than task switching: Not all,
but most of the CPU power is available your your program. Win32 has a
different mutitasking system. (Some call it pre-emptive multitasking, but I
don't.) Win32 gives other task more power, so your program might not get
enough CPU power to run faster than the other two versions.

I could be right, I could be wrong...


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List Member "Karl-Heinz Groene" <0592135705@nwn.de> wrote:
Hallo to all friends of GFA-Basic

for years I=B4m now a user of  GFA-Basic.
I have thousends of lines written on my own with GFA-Basic for Atari ST,
MS-Dos
and Win 3.X/Win9X.
Now, after a long time of  waiting:  GB32 is there!!!!

And then:
I tried this new trial-Version and my doubts becoming greater and greater.

I don't know what to do !!!
Is it time now to change to visual basic and c++ ???
What do you think?
Can you give me a good advice?

Regards
Karl-Heinz Gr=F6ne







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List Member "Andras Szalay" <a.szalay@mail.matav.hu> wrote:

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>>List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
>>Hi Andras,
>>I would like to see the program. Could you attach to a message?
>>adbryant@gfa.net

I send it in two versions, but they are functionally identical.
REALFFT.LST can be used for GFA DOS or GFA WINDOWS (16 bit);
REALFFT.G32 is the GFA32 source code.

When you start it, it asks for "logbase2:"; enter 12 for a 4K FFT.
The program generates a random data array and performs first a 
forward FFT then an inverse FFT. The result is compared to the
original and the arithmetic accuracy is expressed in decibels.
This must be about 250 dB or better; it can be slightly varying due
to the random data. Finally the benchmark timing is displayed
for the forward FFT, the inverse FFT, and an average of both.
Attention, the first two timing results are unusable in DOS version,
since the DOS TIMER has a rough resolution; the third benchmark
is averaged from a large number of repeated calculations, so this
is accurate.

Could anybody try this in VB? In my applications speed is very
essential (e.g. I am doing real-time recognition of guitar chords),
is the arithmetic speed still a good argument to keep on using
GFA?

Regards
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List Member "Sjouke Hamstra" <shamstra@dds.nl> wrote:
> I don't know what to do !!!
> Is it time now to change to visual basic and c++ ???
> What do you think?
> Can you give me a good advice?

It's hard to give you a good advice. I switched to VC++ and VB sometime ago
and observed a few problems. First, to get things working in C++ you must
account for roughly a year to get the hang of C++'s object oriented approach.
(The estimated time comes from knowledgeable C++ programmers and can be found
on many web sites dealing with C++.) C on the other hand is simpler, and
things you did in GFA can be done quite easily in C. You can learn C in a
couple of months. A disadvantage of C is the lack of window support (window
creation, graphics, etc); you must program everything you need by hand the SDK
way, and COM is very difficult to do. Each C++ compiler comes with an
object-oriented frame work encapsulating the KERNEL, USER, and GDI functions,
as well as COM. Microsoft includes MFC and ATL, Borland comes with OWL. To use
these frame works you need a good understanding of object-oriented programming
and since most GFABasic programmers lack that knowledge you won't be able to
create flashing application from the first day you use it. You'll spent most
of the time at learning and won't be producing a lot.
Secondly, VB is certainly an alternative. It's BASIC, easy to learn, and most
importantly it supports COM, in fact it is COM. Although VB is rather
expensive, it is the most natural way to go being a BASIC programmer. But...VB
is VB and you must like it; you must like it's development environment, its
blackbox code, its large DLL, and the lack of small executables. I hate the
lack of pointer arithmetic and direct memory access support. It makes VB a bit
childish, as if you aren't trusted (to the things right). This gives me an
uncomfortable feeling and that is why I don't use it anymore.
So, what is your alternative? Microsoft's C++ and ATL is the most convenient
in the C/C++ area, but I think GB32 is a very good alternative considering the
above. If you don't have the time to learn C++ and ATL, you might consider
GB32 as a good, and maybe only, alternative.

Ofcourse, there is always JAVA., but it is a pure object-oriented language
 no global variables, no pointer arithmetic).

Hope this helps,

Sjouke Hamstra


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Hi Karl,

No I can't give you "good" advice, but have also tried the trial version
"and my doubts becoming greater and greater".

For DOS I liked GFA and I was very happy with GFA 16, but GB32 .....

For the same price I can buy MS Visual Studio, now I have seen GB32 I am
very tempted to upgrade my MS Visual C++.

Regards,
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List Member "Karl-Heinz Groene" <0592135705@nwn.de> wrote:
Hallo to all friends of GFA-Basic

for years I=B4m now a user of  GFA-Basic.
I have thousends of lines written on my own with GFA-Basic for Atari ST,
MS-Dos
and Win 3.X/Win9X.
Now, after a long time of  waiting:  GB32 is there!!!!

And then:
I tried this new trial-Version and my doubts becoming greater and greater.

I don't know what to do !!!
Is it time now to change to visual basic and c++ ???
What do you think?
Can you give me a good advice?

Regards
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List Member "Andras Szalay" <a.szalay@mail.matav.hu> wrote:
Michael Weigand wrote:

>>I'm not sure, but I think the operating system has an influence on the
>>results.
You might be right, but I tested both benchmaks (with 16 bit and 32 bit
GFA programs) under the same WIN95 implementation. The DOS version
is another question, I understand that it is faster; it is not slowed by
processing power requests of the OS; however, I would not expect that
the 10 years old DOS program is more than 3 times faster then the new
GFA32 version.

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List Member UlliStemmeler@t-online.de (Ulli Stemmeler) wrote:
Hello,

I did this test from Andras Szalay on my 300 mhz AMD-Processor-PC (with 1=
28 mB=20
RAM and a co-proc.):
giving the value "12" to the "logbase2-input" I recieved the following re=
sults
in the last ("exact timing fft,ift average") printed field:

gfa16 interpreter: 	105,435
gfa16 (make exe) : 	105,36  =20
			 (I don=B4t have no compiler, so it=B4s just "make-exe")
gfa32 interpreter: 	 73,7979139777735
gfa32 (make exe):	 61,938647144046

I don=B4t understand what is analysed in this test, I hope someone knows =
what this=20
results might say. To me it says (as for as I (don=B4t) understand), that=
 GFA-32=20
is faster than GFA-16.

Sincerely,

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List Member UlliStemmeler@t-online.de (Ulli Stemmeler) wrote:
Hello,

Dale, you convinced me in your last mail to try it with GFA32, so I order=
ed it=20
some days ago, yesterday I recieved my copy, but I just had the time to l=
ook for=20
some things (I haven=B4t written nothing at all with it and I guess it wi=
ll take=20
some weeks to do something usefull with it).

The following things I found remarkable (after my "first look"):
- I miss a usefull help file. Too much things are just explained as "comi=
nig=20
  from GFA-16, maybe it is modified" or so. To me this means, how to find=
 out if=20
  you can use it or not ? Just the "try and error"-way ?
- to me the architecture of the interpreter-window is a little strange, I=
 find=20
  many things I don=B4t know what they are for.
- I couldn=B4t find (at first sight) the way to program clipboard things.=
 I just=20
  found the notice, that CLIPPASTE etc. are not working in GB32, but nowh=
ere how=20
  to do it now. But that=B4s what I was working on at last with GFA16.

  Does anybody know how to read and write the clipboard with GFA32 and ho=
w to  =20
  find out the existing clipboard-format (things I had resolved with GFA1=
6).

Is there a help-file for GFA32 or a documentation that is not just repeat=
ing=20
"what was possible with GFA 16" ?

Please, let me know !

Sincerely,
Ulli Stemmeler,
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List Member Michael Weigand <michael-weigand@foni.net> wrote:
At 14:48 30.10.99 +0200, Ulli Stemmeler wrote:

>Is there a help-file for GFA32 or a documentation that is not just repeating 
>"what was possible with GFA 16" ?

I bought the full version a few weeks ago. Most of the documentation comes
in PDF files. I think the online help is not ready at the moment. It's very
useless at the moment. 


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List Member Wolfgang Schindler <w.schindler@josefstal.de> wrote:
> > Can you give me a good advice?

Thank you, Sjouke Hamstra, for your collection of facts. i found this
very helpful for.

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List Member "Schoenherr, Walter" <Walter.Schoenherr@PZN-Wiesloch.de> wrote:
Ok here my 2 cents GB32 or not GB32....

yesterday i got my Copy of GB32. After 2 hours of installation (the CD
sucked and i think u need IE5)
it finally worked.

My first impression is very good. U can do things which are hardly
possible in VB and without the fiddling of C or C++.

Its fast! i tried a 3rd party Directx-dll (DXC-Creator) and the Programs
run about 2 to 3 times faster as in compiled VB.
 
BUT there are 2 really big Points that suck:

First the lack of Information. There are no Handbooks!!!! all you get
are a few Acrobat files (but the stuff inside there is hard enough for 3
days tof understand it. eg. pointers)

Second: the bugs. Even in the simplest Programms the editor broke when
using ocx stuff!

For me it was easy to convert my VB Progs and even a C-Windows Program.
But i haven't used Gfa16 for more than 2 years now. I dont know how many
Probs u have converting a gfa16-App. But there seem to be some
differences!

I think the boys at GFA have the most important duty to deliver a
Handbook, GB32 is such a mighty language that u have no Chance to get a
grip without them. It even turns in some frustration cause u have just
nothing to look for when u have a problem which on the other hand leads
to some negative feedback at this forum!

all in all i think i have done a good thing, when i buyed GB32.
But my experiences are only from one night and one morning.

greets Walter
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List Member GFA Online <service@gfa.net> wrote:

The English website has been updated and has a frontend for the
Trial version now (www.gfasoft.gfa.net/eng).
So you can go either through the German or the English part to
fetch a copy of GB32 Trial.

Please keep in mind that the Trial is a subclass of GB32 German
Edition. Setup and IDE (the core set) are bi-language but the
manuals and some sample descriptions are available in German only.

The OCX file (required for a GB32 Exe) is now available on our FTP
server. The easiest way is to go via GFA Website www.gfasoft.gfa.net
and choose the Tools section. We will always publish the latest
OCX file there (currently GfaWin11.Ocx).


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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Hi Ulli
I noticed also that the win help file are probably the old gfa16 files.  I
understand that GFA is working on the English help files. Hopefully, these
will be completely GB32 oriented. People are sending me code and there are
many things that I do not understand as yet.  In all fairness, when I
started with GFA16 for Windows there were a lot of things I also did not
understand. Hopefully, GFA will not take too long in updating the Windows
help files. We sure are going to need them with GB32.
Eberhard has GB32 and also John FIndlay has the demo copy. Joe Hurst also
has GB32. Hopefully, they and others, will do a lot to lead us out of the
wilderness.  I am sure that you agree that all new programming languages
(new to us) have a learning curve.
Dale

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> List Member UlliStemmeler@t-online.de (Ulli Stemmeler) wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Dale, you convinced me in your last mail to try it with GFA32, so I
ordered it
> some days ago, yesterday I recieved my copy, but I just had the time to
look for
> some things (I havent written nothing at all with it and I guess it will
take
> some weeks to do something usefull with it).
>
> The following things I found remarkable (after my "first look"):
> - I miss a usefull help file. Too much things are just explained as
"cominig
>   from GFA-16, maybe it is modified" or so. To me this means, how to find
out if
>   you can use it or not ? Just the "try and error"-way ?
> - to me the architecture of the interpreter-window is a little strange, I
find
>   many things I dont know what they are for.
> - I couldnt find (at first sight) the way to program clipboard things. I
just
>   found the notice, that CLIPPASTE etc. are not working in GB32, but
nowhere how
>   to do it now. But thats what I was working on at last with GFA16.
>
>   Does anybody know how to read and write the clipboard with GFA32 and how
to
>   find out the existing clipboard-format (things I had resolved with
GFA16).
>
> Is there a help-file for GFA32 or a documentation that is not just
repeating
> "what was possible with GFA 16" ?
>
> Please, let me know !
>
> Sincerely,
> Ulli Stemmeler,
> Mnster/Germany
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
HI Ulli,
I am also expecting some great routines from you. With everyone helping we
can all learn together.
Dale

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Subject: [gfabasic] new to GFA32


> List Member UlliStemmeler@t-online.de (Ulli Stemmeler) wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Dale, you convinced me in your last mail to try it with GFA32, so I
ordered it
> some days ago, yesterday I recieved my copy, but I just had the time to
look for
> some things (I havent written nothing at all with it and I guess it will
take
> some weeks to do something usefull with it).
>
> The following things I found remarkable (after my "first look"):
> - I miss a usefull help file. Too much things are just explained as
"cominig
>   from GFA-16, maybe it is modified" or so. To me this means, how to find
out if
>   you can use it or not ? Just the "try and error"-way ?
> - to me the architecture of the interpreter-window is a little strange, I
find
>   many things I dont know what they are for.
> - I couldnt find (at first sight) the way to program clipboard things. I
just
>   found the notice, that CLIPPASTE etc. are not working in GB32, but
nowhere how
>   to do it now. But thats what I was working on at last with GFA16.
>
>   Does anybody know how to read and write the clipboard with GFA32 and how
to
>   find out the existing clipboard-format (things I had resolved with
GFA16).
>
> Is there a help-file for GFA32 or a documentation that is not just
repeating
> "what was possible with GFA 16" ?
>
> Please, let me know !
>
> Sincerely,
> Ulli Stemmeler,
> Mnster/Germany
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List Member ralfar@ix.netcom.com wrote:
can you please provide the address where one can download this demo from...  thanks

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List Member "Andras Szalay" <a.szalay@mail.matav.hu> wrote:
>>List Member UlliStemmeler@t-online.de (Ulli Stemmeler) wrote:
>>I did this test from Andras Szalay on my 300 mhz AMD-Processor-PC (with =
128 mB 
>>RAM and a co-proc.):
>>giving the value "12" to the "logbase2-input" I recieved the following r=
esults
>>in the last ("exact timing fft,ift average") printed field:
>>
>>gfa16 interpreter: 	105,435
>>gfa16 (make exe) : 	105,36   
>>			 (I don=B4t have no compiler, so it=B4s just "make-exe")
>>gfa32 interpreter: 	 73,7979139777735
>>gfa32 (make exe):	 61,938647144046
Your results are very close to mine (although my processor is much slower
than yours). I could not make a GFA32 make.exe, but as I expected in 
my letter, it is not much faster than the interpreted (?) one.

>>I don=B4t understand what is analysed in this test...
The FFT is a spectrum analysis method. The program generates first a "wave=
 
file" from a sequence of sine waves with random amplitudes, then the FFT
"disassembles" this wave into individual components. For the purpose of th=
is 
test it is nothing else than a floating point processing power-hungry
application, although a very important and frequently used one. I use it f=
or
musical applications, but it is widely used in applied physics from sonar
technology to seizmology, etc.

>>I hope someone knows what this 
>>results might say. To me it says (as for as I (don=B4t) understand), tha=
t GFA-32 
>>is faster than GFA-16.
Your statement is true for the interpreter, but I do not treat this very i=
mportant.
Whenever I need an application at high speed I compile it anyway, and as 
you can see on my results the compiled GFA16 is more than 2 times faster
than the GFA32.

Andras Szalay

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List Member Micromiser Software <miser@cde.com> wrote:
At 09:42 AM 10/30/99 +0200, you wrote:
>List Member "Karl-Heinz Groene" <0592135705@nwn.de> wrote:
>Hallo to all friends of GFA-Basic
>
>for years I=B4m now a user of  GFA-Basic.
>I have thousends of lines written on my own with GFA-Basic for Atari ST,
>MS-Dos
>and Win 3.X/Win9X.
>Now, after a long time of  waiting:  GB32 is there!!!!
>
>And then:
>I tried this new trial-Version and my doubts becoming greater and greater.
>
>I don't know what to do !!!
>Is it time now to change to visual basic and c++ ???
>What do you think?
>Can you give me a good advice?
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Hi Karl,

I recommend you look at Delphi. It uses PASCAL, which is why I never looked
at it before. But now in version 5 it is making PASCAL friendlier. Just as
GFA tries to incorporate C, Delphi appears to try to incorporate BASIC
features. For instance it now supports unlimited length strings (not just
32K). Imagine what you can do with that! This PASCAL is very much easier to
use than C. It solves many problems discussed with GFA over the years. Now,
for me, the infamous PASCAL syntax and rules are just minor annoyances
compared to the benefits received in Delphi in terms of overall development
time.

I have only reviewed Delphi for a month or so. I would like to hear from any
Delphi/GB32 users who would list the benefits of GB32 over Delphi. Delphi
uses OOP terminology, but I found that easy once you learn how to translate
OOP words into their traditional equivalents (which Delphi fails to do). I
could make a list on request. I hear GB32 is now using OOP terminology
anyway. A "class" is like a DLL routine that has it's own procedures,
functions, and variables. An "ancestor" class is like a system routine you
use over and over in different programs. The "ancestor" to those are the
language keywords. Etc., Etc.

I understand that GB32 will not compile GB16 code without revision, some say
minor, some say major. I guess it depends on your GB16 programming style. If
I have to translate, I might as well translate into Delphi. It would take
maybe 2 weeks to write a translator to translate most of my (non-interface)
code (would be my 4th language translation program).

Delphi has hundreds of commands that run combinations of Windows API
functions and other Delphi commands (called the VCL or Visual Component
Library). This is analogous to making DLL calls to accomplish high-level
things (probably what they are internally). Some of these are like GFA
commands that "encapsulate" Windows API functions, but usually on a higher
level to do various programming tasks, and there are a lot more of them.
They are used to do just about anything. A negative is that there appears to
be only one complete list of these commands: in the Help system.

So far I have noticed these benefits of Delphi:

* It works! I have yet to find a command that didn't work. No timing
problems. No white windows, blinking screens, incomplete redraws, error 77,
error 2, error 14, etc. I did a weird "creative" thing: Started a program,
dropped a timer on a form, set it to .2 seconds, do some processing on the
timer event, then run a 16-bit EXE and close Delphi. In other words a
"program launcher" with some 32-bit preprocessing. If I had been familiar
with the language, all this would have taken 10 minutes. I can imagine all
the Windows API and timing considerations Delphi had to handle behind the
scenes. Worked the first time!

Delphi is up to version 5. Remember it was several years before a "debugged"
GFA16 arrived. I wonder if it will be another several years for a debugged=
 GB32.

* The RAD (Rapid Application Development) of windows programs similar to VB,
but with a fast compiler. Every imaginable win-32 control can be dropped on
a form, all attributes set. Then delphi drops you right into the event
handler ready to write code to respond to the event.

* Documentation is complete, though in a Help file. I think over 10 mb in
English. Borland documentation has always been esoteric and hard to
understand (they love new terminology), but better than English speakers
reading GFA docs. But there are great books available: I found "Teach
yourself Borland Delphi in 21 days" to be great. Tom Swan has another. Just
visit amazon.com for a big selection.

* Solutions to problems would be easily found on the net since there is a
much larger user base.

* You can produce useful programs right away, at the beginning of the
learning curve. Just following documentation and fixing obvious errors in my
PASCAL code, my short programs worked first time.

* No bugs so far. But Delphi comes with a long list of documented bugs.
Novel idea!

* It traps the Windows system errors I get with GFA16

* Supports low level things if you want them: all API functions (complete
32-bit SDK included in Help!), pointers, ASSEMBLER, etc.

* Internal support of many programming tasks that have given GFA programmers
a tough time: JPG files (including the latest formats), printer problems,
identifying storage devices. I have just scratched the surface and am
discovering new features you would not expect in a programming language.

* Support of every database feature I can imagine: It is a business
application generator, support of tables, indexing, etc., etc., and these
are incorporated into the RAD features and can also be "dropped" on a form.
It supports major SQL languages. It supports LAN, client/server, enterprise
networks (extra $$ for this).

* It includes Java and C++ builder.

* All this for only about $270 if you upgrade from another Borland product.
They were very liberal here. It seems just about anything qualifies. I did
not have a former product on my system. The install never asked for serial
numbers or any other confirmation.

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List Member Micromiser Software <miser@cde.com> wrote:
At 08:16 PM 10/30/99 +0000, you wrote:

>...Back to nviewl16.dll, where I started 2 years ago... 

Hi Tom,

I noticed your request a while ago for any routine that could prevent a popup...
I would still like to use nviewl16.dll if I could prevent the error popup
when it can't decode a file.

I would then use WECJLIB 2.0 for speed, and NVIEWL16 for those WECJLIB can't
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Identification of the "*.pic" format used in load_pic.lst...

Moot & unarguable discussion!  Deemed unuseable for my intentions.

Files saved at 16-bit are not visible at 8-bit & vice versa!  This
being the case, it would not be of any use to convert to this format
& write the files at 8-bit.  They would be viewable ONLY by a computer
set to 8-bit (256 colors).

As per Pat's suggestion, I returned to Wotsit's & downloaded all formats
that would seem to fall within the little I can tell about this thing.
No soap, no cigar!  It doesn't appear to be any of them.

This has a pretty solid 18 byte header, the only consistant components
being "P" in byte 5 & "R" in byte 6.  Byte 3 changes w/ content, as does
byte ll.  However, they don't appear consistant within a size or color
depth setting.

One more tremendous idea shot to hell.

wecjlib.dll v1.1 - doesn't appear to like having the nag removed from the *.dll.
wecjlib.dll v2.0 - lousy 8-bit representation, doesn't mind losing the nags.
John - Sorry - you put forth a valient effort & I appreciate it.  ECL has
long ago disappeared - I wish they'd taken their *.dll with'em.

Back to nviewl16.dll, where I started 2 years ago. 
Thank you, Patrik, for translating the calls, & thanks to Nishita for the *.dll.
This one hasn't been modified for over 2 yrs & isn't supported.  So much for
freebies!  At least, it *does* work & reads several formats while saving only
*.jpg.  If you use it, remember that some *.pcx & *.gif can't be properly
saved as *.jpg by it & it will probably crash on an animation.

imglib.dll requires several large components, but handles quite a few formats.
It costs $50US & probably isn't supported now because he's gone all-32-bit.

Life is like grabbing a rattlesnake by the throat & discovering you got it
by the tail, instead.  Whoooeeeee!

<G>
TomR.

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List Member "Sjouke Hamstra" <shamstra@dds.nl> wrote:
> I recommend you look at Delphi. It uses PASCAL, which is why I never looked
> at it before. But now in version 5 it is making PASCAL friendlier. Just as
> GFA tries to incorporate C, Delphi appears to try to incorporate BASIC
> features.

Hmm, I forgot to mention Delphi as an alternative. I used it until version 2.
It is PASCAL and when you're used to BASIC and C/C++ PASCAL seems a bit old
fashioned ( personal opinion ofcourse). However from your message I learn it
has become more friendly. I wonder if Delphi is a real alternative, I just
don't know.

I did download the trial version of GFABASIC32 and was shocked ;) to see how
it has developed since I first started as a beta tester. It has become a REAL
alternative. It supports real C-like pointer arithmetic and assembly. It
offers Regular Expression searches, and many more algorithms modern languages
offer(hash tables, linked lists, etc.) Due to the pointer arithmetic you can
create your own linked lists very easily. The documentation in PDF format
discusses very interesting technical background issues we always missed in
previous versions. If you're not satisfied with the documentation you can
always disassemble compiled code to see how things are done. Great. Although
the documentation fails the exact descriptions of methods and properties, it
is enough to get starting.
I'm very pleased GFABasic developed this way and it has a big potential. As a
matter of fact, I ordered it immediately. Wow.

Sjouke Hamstra

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Some words to speed of the new GB32:

GB32 and 16 Bit GFA-BASIC for Windows

  GB32 is significant faster than 16 Bit GFA-BASIC for Windows, even
  in compiled mode. If there is no difference then you normally have
  the situation that a 16 bit operation has been invoked which can
  not be made faster.


GB32: IDE and Exe
  Normally you will not find a significant difference in speed
  between execution in IDE and compiled. This means the GB32
  does a quick compile each time you run a program from the Editor
  instead of executing interpreted. That is why the new GB32 is
  quite faster even while developing.
  On the other hand special kinds of optimization require some
  time to analyze the source code, rearrange the data, check the
  variable conversions and probably replace some code parts by
  faster algorithms. These optimizations will take effect in the
  Exe file (compiled) only. The compilation into Exe takes more
  time but is more efficient so there is a difference in speed
  and mostly the Exe is a little bit faster. If you are using
  code that will be affected in most parts by optimization the
  result will be significant faster.

Please keep in mind:
  It is very easy to slow down a program by using a&, i.e. 16 bit
  Integers, throughout your source. This variable type should be
  used in special circumstances only but not as a counter in for-
  next clauses etc. The fastest var type in a 32 bit environment
  is a 32 bit integer and that is a% or Dim a As Int or Local a As Int32.


Floating Point Benchmark

  The benchmark previously posted by Andras Szalay results into
  quite a different speed on our test platform.
  We have used the same 4K real FFT (base%=12) on a
  Pentium II 350 Mhz runnning Windows 98:

Realfft.lst

  GFA-BASIC DOS
	Interpreter:	65,63
	Compiler:	10,16

  16 Bit GFA-BASIC Windows
	Interpreter:	68,78
	Compiler:	24,765

  GFA-BASIC 32 - the first
	IDE:		42,67
	Compiler:	34,90

  GFA-BASIC 32 - the second
	IDE:		12,23
	Compiler:	4,88


  Surprised? The second GB32 timing is by far the fastest
  of all environments. It uses another listing, called Realfft2.g32
  and attached to this mail as ZIP file. 

  The original .g32 listing contains one big bug througout the complete
  source. It _does not use double vars_! That means it is not a real
  floating point benchmark. It uses the new var type Variant instead
  which is powerful but _really slow_.

Example:

Original source:

  Global base%, k%, t1, t4, t5

  Declares the variable base% as 32 Bit Integer, k% as 32 Bit Integer and
  t1+t4+t5 as Variants. A variable without postfix is by default (OLE/COM
  guideline) a Variant, and no longer a double.

Realfft2.g32:

  Global base%, k%
  Global Double t1, t4, t5

  Declares t1+t4+t5 as Double now. Also possible: 
    Global t1 As Double, t4 As Double, t5 As Double
    Global t1#, t4#, t5#


Some other changes have been maded as well. But the most important thing
is the use of variants. It slows down the program very much (as you can
see in the timing results).

The procedure declarations have to be adopted as well:

Change
  Sub realift(logbase2%, ByRef dta())

to
  Sub realfft(logbase2%, ByRef dta() As Double)

and the speed will be improved.


TIP: Where ever possible you should avoid the use of Variant vars.
     They are famous and easy in use but _very_ slow. You should
     prefer using a determined var type instead (Variants are not
     determined).

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List Member Benny Sels <benny@zeb.be> wrote:
Hi Sjouke,

I'm downloading the GB32 trial version now to check out what is changed
since the last beta version from august.
Dit you get a message from gfa that GB32 is released, I dit not. they
completely forgot there betatesters i guess.
I see you like GB32 again...(basic++)....;-)
I'm also dit some VC++ since youre basic++ project stopped, but i stil like
GB32 more.
I think i will order also...i just read you can get the english docs for
free when the translations are done.

regards, 

Benny Sels


At 22:34 30/10/99 +0200, you wrote:
>List Member "Sjouke Hamstra" <shamstra@dds.nl> wrote:
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>I'm very pleased GFABasic developed this way and it has a big potential. As a
>matter of fact, I ordered it immediately. Wow.
>
>Sjouke Hamstra
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Steve
You must have a v2 that differes from mine.  It is no faster than nviewl16
on the surface, but it *is* a little more forgiving.  Bear in mind I don't
run bench tests, I just look at having to sit here watching it do nothing
onscreen.  I haven't succeeded in getting it's progress indication to show
up in the caption.

As for the nag or error dlg... I have (somewhere) a goodie called nonag.exe
that you run beforehand.  It catches all dialogs requiring response & gives
it.  Has a fair range of button subjects... OK, Continue, etc.  It's on my
486 - I'll have to pull it off, I guess.  Is a freebie, so maybe I can get
the source - is in Holland or Belgium.

I'm afraid I drove John nuts w/ wecjmess.dll <G>.

If we can find somebody w/ expertise & time, I can provide nearly all
that is necessary to write our own *.jpg *.dll.  I'm too damned dumb
to do it.

There are other alternatives, but they cost.  The cheapest is $50US,
but it's damned good.  I used it w/ LibertyBasic on a trial basis.

I've played with a ton of these things!  Don't mess w/ cjpeg.exe or
djpeg.exe - they stay resident when done & the only way I know to
unload'em is to reboot.  This is the pits!  I have the "C" source
for both.  Won't compile properly w/ MSVCv1.

<G>
TomR.


At 03:32 PM 30/10/99 -0400, you wrote:
>List Member Micromiser Software <miser@cde.com> wrote:
>At 08:16 PM 10/30/99 +0000, you wrote:
>
>>...Back to nviewl16.dll, where I started 2 years ago... 
>
>Hi Tom,
>
>I noticed your request a while ago for any routine that could prevent a
popup...
>I would still like to use nviewl16.dll if I could prevent the error popup
>when it can't decode a file.
>
>I would then use WECJLIB 2.0 for speed, and NVIEWL16 for those WECJLIB can't
>decode.
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Hi KHG,

I use VB for "real" applications (like MCR, or XIndex, see http://www.jhurst.de)
and GB32 for things that need speed (mathmatic operations). GB32 will be my
platform to build DLLs, but VB for the GUI. Problem at the moment: GB32 cannot
compile DLLs :-) -> and VB5/6 is cheaper than GB32.

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Hi Sjouke,
BOY! Am I glad to hear that you ordered GB32. Is it possible a book might be
in  the future?
Dale

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> List Member "Sjouke Hamstra" <shamstra@dds.nl> wrote:
> I'm very pleased GFABasic developed this way and it has a big potential.
As a
> matter of fact, I ordered it immediately. Wow.
>
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
I sure the English docs are not long in coming. I'm LOST!!
Dale

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> I see you like GB32 again...(basic++)....;-)
> I'm also dit some VC++ since youre basic++ project stopped, but i stil
like
> GB32 more.
> I think i will order also...i just read you can get the english docs for
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List Member "Andras Szalay" <a.szalay@mail.matav.hu> wrote:
First of all, I am very sorry to GFA; I am not yet familiar with
GFA32 and I have wrongly assumed that no postfix means
by default double, like in GFA16; instead, as you explained 
it was Variant, which is slow, therefore my bechmark results
were unfairly slow.

The response from GFA Online means two very good news:

1.) The GFA32 is in fact the fastest of all GFA implementations;
2.) A fast and professional answer from GFA's side to our
problems is possible. 

These are of course very good arguments to convince anybody to
buy GFA32. 

Of course I repeated the benchmark, and the program is indeed
much faster with your variable declarations, however not by the
amount as in your test. I measured 25.5 msec on GFA32 IDE,
which is just a little bit faster than my result for GFA16/Compiled
(28 msec); your results show that GFA32 IDE should be more 
than two times faster than the GFA16/Compiled. Can you explain
the difference? As I wrote earlier, my PC is 233 MHz MMX with
128 MByte and WIN95. Ulli, could you try this code too?

For a better overview I summarize the benchmark results here.
To make a comparison of the implementations as far as possible
independent of the PC, I make a percentual column as well,
taking the DOS Interpreter execution time as 100%.
"A" means my version of the program (wrong); "B" is the good one.

				A. Szalay			GFA Online
				msec		%		msec		%
DOS Interpr.		97.00		100.00	65.63		100.00
DOS Compiled		20.00		20.62		10.16		15.50
WIN Interpr. 16		108.00	111.34	68.78		104.96
WIN Compiled 16	28.00		28.87		24.77		37.79
WIN IDE 32 / A		64.00		65.98		42.67		65.12
WIN Compiled 32 / A					34.90		53.26
WIN IDE 32 / B		25.50		26.29		12.23		18.66
WIN Compiled 32 / B					4.88		7.45


Andras Szalay

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List Member "Sjouke Hamstra" <shamstra@dds.nl> wrote:
Hi Benny,

> Dit you get a message from gfa that GB32 is released, I dit not. they
> completely forgot there betatesters i guess.

I think they did, although I must be honest and didn't do much about it. For
me to be a better and more alround programmer I just had to be doing C++ for a
while. Using C++ isn't much fun though. It takes a lot of planning and
programming before a simple program gets running. I focussed on doing things
the OOP way, but that requires a lot of careful design. Sometimes I do more
paperwork than programming.

> I see you like GB32 again...(basic++)....;-)

The BasiCpp project was finished upto 90%, the remaining 10% was impossible to
do. The remaining part required a good knowledge of C++ from the user, and
that wasn't the goal I wanted to achieve.
For fun I started my own BASIC interpreter, just to get hang of the internals
of a programming language. From that perspective I learned how difficult it is
to develop a (simple) programming language and developed a deep respect for
Frank Ostrowski and his GB32.

During my C++ period I learned many new things (STL) that I now judge as
inevitable for a programming language. I'm very glad GFA saw that as well, and
added most of these algorithms, containers, and functions to GB32. There are
still a few (advanced) things missing, but I trust they will be implemented in
the (near)future.

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List Member "Sjouke Hamstra" <shamstra@dds.nl> wrote:
Hi Dale,

> BOY! Am I glad to hear that you ordered GB32. Is it possible a book might be
> in  the future?

No, I don't think so. I wanted to do that two years ago, but GFA was
unwillingly. Hope their overall attitude has changed now.
Besides, if you can read German and looked at the PDF documentation you can
see that the documentation is much better now. It carefully describes very
interesting technical backgrounds. Additionally, with good support online
collected by a dedicated GFA user ;) , there is no need for such a book.

Sjouke


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Hi Sjouke,

Gee wiz this is a turn around from your early reports on GB32! So you now
think GB32 is more a viable language than the other alternatives previously
mentioned????



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List Member "Sjouke Hamstra" <shamstra@dds.nl> wrote:
> Gee wiz this is a turn around from your early reports on GB32! So you now
> think GB32 is more a viable language than the other alternatives previously
> mentioned????

I was not aware I did report ugly things about GB32. I had some doubts though,
because programming languages develop to RADs, they now include database
support and COM, and most importantly they offer all kinds of algorithms
(linked lists, dynamic arrays, pointers, etc). Compared to the first beta,
GB32 has developed towards a real language and I'm certainly impressed. I
didn't expect this change, I expected it to be more like VB. Now GB32 combines
SDK-style programming with COM-objects programming and sub events. If you've
ever done COM in C++, you will certainly appreciate that.
Ofcourse, its a personal opinion, but I think GFA did a terrific job. Notice
the compile around times, this is amazing. Anyone who likes C/C++ programming
will prefer GB over VB, no doubt.

Sjouke

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List Member "Roland Walter" <roland@rowalt.de> wrote:

Sjouke wrote:
> [...] It supports real C-like pointer arithmetic and assembly. It
> offers Regular Expression searches, and many more algorithms modern languages
> offer(hash tables, linked lists, etc.) Due to the pointer arithmetic you can
> create your own linked lists very easily.

This is an important point!!!!!! GFA Basic is not a language
which keeps You stupid forever. This is the wide opened gate to do
really everythink. It is of course a question of the speed Your
program can offer. But also the speed is the qestion if You
can realize several programming tasks at all.
To use VB as an comparison example: Momently I have to process
data which comes in with in with 115.200 baud from serial port,
to process very complicated mathematical calculations and at the
end to show it as a 8 channel full-screen oscilloscope.
No problem with GFA Basic. With pointers and direct memory access
there are no unnecessary calls, sub-calls, sub-sub-calls and so on
which lift me the processor time away.
Do You now that some guys of the german Chaos Computer Club
(the german "hackers" organization) very like GFA Basic?

> The documentation in PDF format
> discusses very interesting technical background issues we always missed in
> previous versions. If you're not satisfied with the documentation you can
> always disassemble compiled code to see how things are done. Great.
So I do momently :-)))) But there is a backgraund everybody should
know: With Windows SDK it would be the half work or minor to do for
GFA only.
GFA has asked Microsoft several times to get a licence. Microsoft has
simply ignored this. What's that?
Everybody should think: If a capitalist can sell 1000s pieces of his
product more he WILL (WILL!!!!) do it. If not the capitalism does
not correctly work at this point. Because every gouverment know this
there is a special institute called "Federal Cartel Office".
Here we have a typical task for this special institute.
What about the USA users of GFA Basic? Write the US FCO!
And the question of SDK is not the only one: To write the GFA's
OCX they did badly need a documentation of the OCX interface (just
for the maximum of speed a programming language needs). But lots
of thinks Microsoft has not documented. The same game: Questions
and no answers. Frank Ostrowski had to disassamble all.
And so on and so on...

By the way: I am a hater of PDF, Winhelp files are much more user 
friendly...

> I'm very pleased GFABasic developed this way and it has a big potential. As a
> matter of fact, I ordered it immediately. Wow.
:-) I have it too.
Bye, Roland

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List Member "Russell Hayward" <russ@softhome.net> wrote:
Hi everybody,

I've been trying download GB32 but as I can't use GetRight I might have to
wait until next weekend to get it. Any chance of a direct download in the
near future?

In the meantime I have been very interested in the speed discussions that
have been going on, so I converted the GB32 listing sent by GFA Online to
C++ so I could see what sort of speed difference there was. Unless I made an
error during conversion it looks very favourable for GB32. Here's the
output on my PII 300Mhz MMX running Windows 95c, if it looks wrong I'll send
the source code to see if anyone can spot where I made the error.

  WAIT...
  WAIT...
  spectr. dynamics:        1     0dB
  sample dynamics:         1     0dB
  max amplitude:                12449.2197717315
  max spectr. line:             -127.218726157414
  realfft time in millisec:     10
  realift time in millisec:     10
  exact timing fft,ift average: 5.315

Also I've noticed a lot of alternatives to GB32 appearing on this list, but
I think one very important one has been missed. I think everyone has agreed
the easiest language to move to from GFA Basic is C, I certainly found that
was the case. I tried Delphi but couldn't get to grips with Pascal, and then
I got a free copy of C++ Builder off a cover disk, It's just like Delphi but
using C++ instead. I'll be interested to compare it and GB32 when I
download the trial.

Just one other thing that worries me, does anyone about how well GB32 works
with Windows 2000?

Ta'ra,
Russell Hayward
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List Member "Sjouke Hamstra" <shamstra@dds.nl> wrote:
> By the way: I am a hater of PDF, Winhelp files are much more user
> friendly...

It seems GFA formats its documentation using PDF, and that's fine. But what
they SHOULD do, is collect all material; all listings, internal memos, manuals
and compile them with HCW to create a MSDN-like application. Besides that, I
noticed they simply put beta-test notes from FO directly into the manual.
These notes may be correct but are sometimes besides the point and sometimes
unreadable ( and I read German very well). They should be placed in some
technical background article/chapter. The chapter on Pointer() is badly edited
and hardly understandable. I had to reread it several times and still didn't
understand. Once I created a linked list, I saw the meaning (although I prefer
the C pointer notation). Why didn't they hire a professional (hand)book writer
;))?

I also noticed a few shortcomings, like a new and delete operator. IF (GFA
wants to support PTRs) THEN do it right. BTW I checked my beta-test whishlist
and saw a lot of it back in the final version (Assert, for instance).

Sjouke

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List Member "John Findlay" <John.Findlay@Byte-it.net> wrote:

Russell
 
> as I can't use GetRight <

Why not? 

I downloaded Go!Zilla from the link on GFA's site, it worked well.

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List Member "Georg Veichtlbauer" <veichtlbauer@gmx.at> wrote:
> Just one other thing that worries me, does anyone about how well GB32
works
> with Windows 2000?
On my current beta of Win2k, GB32 works really well! And - I know this is
very unlikely for Microsoft - the whole thing works _faster_ (in the case
you have enough RAM... :)

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From:"Roland Walter" <roland@rowalt.de>
>>Hallo Andras,
>>Could You send me the FFT routine You had used
>>to test the different versions of GFA-Basic?
Seems that you missed some of our communications.
I send you two program lists, REALFFT.LST and REALFFT.G32
You can use the first for GFA DOS and GFA Win 16, and the
second is for GFA32. This second is not my original one, this was 
already optimized by GFA Online.
There are a few questions I would be rather interested to know:

1.) I wrote to GFA Online:
>>I measured 25.5 msec on GFA32 IDE, which is just a little bit 
>>faster than my result for GFA16/Compiled (28 msec); 
>>your results show that GFA32 IDE should be more 
>>than two times faster than the GFA16/Compiled. Can you 
>>explain the difference? As I wrote earlier, my PC is 233 MHz MMX 
>>with 128 MByte and WIN95.
Coudl you check this too, Roland?

2.) How does this compare to VB?

3.) How does this compare to Microsoft C or C++?
(See my letter to Russel Hayward too).

Thank you,
	Andras Szalay


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List Member "Andras Szalay" <a.szalay@mail.matav.hu> wrote:
>>List Member "Russell Hayward" <russ@softhome.net> wrote:
>>...so I converted the GB32 listing sent by GFA Online to
>>C++ so I could see what sort of speed difference there was. 
>>Unless I made an error during conversion it looks very favourable 
>>for GB32.
There are two problems. First, there must be something wrong in your
results, since the the dynamics shows 0dB. This means that the
error of the converted signals is as large as the signal itself, which
is nonsense. If you send me your source code I could try to check 
with some printf's where is the problem. I have Microsoft Visual 
Studio 97 on my PC, but I am absolutely unfamiliar with it, I never 
used it. 
Second, I think a comparison makes only sense if you compare
different implementations on the same PC, since the performance
of different PC's can be very different, even by the same MHz clock,
so the test should be done with all versions on the same PC.

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
'  label2.lst
TITLEW #1, " Read a Filename/Disk Label - FGETDTA"
OPENW #1, 10,10,360,390,48
PRINT " To read a disk volume label, use the whole"
PRINT " procedure below, chosing either of the 2 methods"
PRINT " given to remove the period (or full stop).  To read"
PRINT " a filename instead, REMark *all* of the m?$ steps."
PRINT " Filenames are 8+3, disk labels are 11."

GetLabel
END

PROCEDURE GetLabel
  IF FSFIRST("c:\*.*",8) =3D 0 ' change to drive of interest
    Headline$ =3D "Read disk name"
    Message$ =3D CHAR{FGETDTA() + 30}
    PRINT
    PRINT " ";Message$;
    '    p% =3D RINSTR(Message$,".")
    '    m1$ =3D LEFT$(Message$,p% - 1)
    'alternate method
    m1$ =3D LEFT$(Message$,LEN(Message$) - 4)
    ' end of alternate method
    PRINT "      ";m1$;" + ";
    m2$ =3D RIGHT$(Message$,3)
    PRINT " ";m2$;
    m3$ =3D m1$ + m2$
    PRINT "      ";m3$
    PRINT " Thanks: SVEN KUMLIN <sven.kumlin@swipnet.se>"
    PRINT " TomR. Tiger.Genealogical.Rescue@worldnet.att.net"
    PRINT ""
    PRINT " Am working on writing a"
    PRINT " disk label.  Any offers"
    PRINT " to help with FSETDTA?"
    PRINT
    PRINT " The interpretor refuses"
    PRINT " DIM a=B3(44)"
    PRINT " ~FSETDTA(V:a=B3(3))"
    PRINT " (gfawin.hlp) outright!"
    Message$ =3D m3$
    Message$ =3D "The name of the disk in drive C is: " + Message$
  ELSE
    Message$ =3D "Disk name is missing!"
  ENDIF
  MESSAGE Message$,Headline$,MB_OK,Answer&
RETURN


CLOSEW #1
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List Member "Russell Hayward" <russ@softhome.net> wrote:

George,

> On my current beta of Win2k, GB32 works really well!

I'm sure those minor compatibilities will be removed by the time it hits the
shops. <G>

Seriously, that's very good news, last thing you want is to get GB32 and it
is out of date in a year.

> And - I know this is very unlikely for Microsoft - the whole thing works
> _faster_

Surely that is not possible!

>(in the case you have enough RAM... :)

I was going to upgrade recently but the price of memory trebled just as I
was about to take the plunge. I guess I'm just going to have to stand that
constant swap-file activity for a while yet. :-|

Russell Hayward




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List Member "Russell Hayward" <russ@softhome.net> wrote:
> > as I can't use GetRight <
>
> Why not?
>
> I downloaded Go!Zilla from the link on GFA's site, it worked well.

I think it is because it uses a form to allow you to download it. I can't
see all the error but it seems to say that some of the fields had invalid
values.

I've never had any problems with GetRight before, and I tried Go!Zilla about
6 months back and didn't like it as much. Anyway, I'm sure it wont be long
before I'm on the net for an hour without disconnecting, the phone bill is
testament to that :->.

Bye,
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Hi Andreas,

> There are two problems. First, there must be something wrong in your
> results, since the the dynamics shows 0dB. This means that the
> error of the converted signals is as large as the signal itself, which
> is nonsense. If you send me your source code I could try to check
> with some printf's where is the problem. I have Microsoft Visual
> Studio 97 on my PC, but I am absolutely unfamiliar with it, I never
> used it.

I thought I must have made a few mistakes during the conversion, it's quite
a complicated program. I think even if it is doing it wrong, it is doing the
same amount of computation as the GB32 program. I've attached the code and
hopefully you, or maybe someone else on the list, can spot where I have gone
wrong.

> Second, I think a comparison makes only sense if you compare
> different implementations on the same PC, since the performance
> of different PC's can be very different, even by the same MHz clock,
> so the test should be done with all versions on the same PC.

Yes this was what I was going to do next, upload the program so someone with
the GB32 compiled version could compare the two results. But as I was almost
certain the C++ version wasn't working correctly I thought there wasn't much
point. I meant to send the source last time but it started crashing and it
wouldn't work on any compiler except from C++ Builder, so wouldn't have been
much use.

Good luck finding the error,
Russell Hayward

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//-----------------------------------------------------------------------=
----
#include <windows>
#include <stdio>
#include <math>
//-----------------------------------------------------------------------=
----
WNDCLASS wnd;
long __stdcall WndProc(HANDLE,unsigned int,unsigned int,long);
HANDLE Win,Edit;
//-----------------------------------------------------------------------=
----
void generate(),wave_synth(),search_max(),check1(),timing(),check2(),
      amplset(long logbase2,double *spectr,double *a),clear_sample(),
      four1(long nn, long isign, double *dta),realfft(long logbase2, =
double *dta),
      realift(long logbase2, double *dta),Print(char*),cpy();

char pbuf[500];
long base=3D0, b=3D0, qw=3D0, halfsize=3D0, n=3D0, samplesize=3D0, =
t=3D0, k=3D0;
double t1=3D0, t4=3D0, t5=3D0, t6=3D0, t7=3D0, t8=3D0, t9=3D0, =
spectr_max=3D0, temp=3D0;
double sp2r=3D0, a1=3D0, f0=3D0, nr=3D0, tr=3D0, diff=3D0, diff_max=3D0,
        ampl_max=3D0, er_sum=3D0, c1=3D0, s1=3D0, a2=3D0, ampl_sum=3D0;

double *sample,*c,*s,*ampl,*arr;
//-----------------------------------------------------------------------=
----
void Start()
{
  base=3D12;

  samplesize=3Dpow(2,base);
  halfsize=3Dsamplesize/2;
  sp2r=3Dhalfsize;            // real version
  a1 =3D 128;                    // amplitude of a single component
  f0 =3D (M_PI * 2) / samplesize;

  sample=3Dnew double[samplesize+1];c=3Dnew double[halfsize+2];
  s=3Dnew double[halfsize+2];ampl=3Dnew double[halfsize+1];arr=3Dnew =
double[samplesize+1];

  generate();
  clear_sample();
  wave_synth();
  search_max();
  cpy();

  t1 =3D GetTickCount();
  realfft(base, arr);
  t4 =3D GetTickCount();
  amplset(base, arr, ampl);
  t5 =3D GetTickCount();
  check1();
  t6 =3D GetTickCount();
  realift(base, arr);
  t7 =3D GetTickCount();
  check2();
  t8 =3D GetTickCount();
  for (qw=3D0;qw<=3D99;qw++){
    realfft(base, arr);
    realift(base, arr);
  }
  t9 =3D GetTickCount();

  timing();

	MSG mess;
	while (GetMessage(&mess,0,0,0)>0){
   	TranslateMessage(&mess);DispatchMessage(&mess);
 	}
  delete[] sample;delete[] c;delete[] s;delete[] ampl;delete[] arr;
}
//-----------------------------------------------------------------------=
----
double Rnd()
{
  return ((double)rand())/(double)RAND_MAX;
}
//-----------------------------------------------------------------------=
----
void generate()
{
  Print("  WAIT...");
  spectr_max =3D 0;
  for (int n=3D0;n<=3Dhalfsize;n++){
    temp =3D a1 * (2 * Rnd() - 1);
    c[n]=3Dtemp;
    if (abs(temp) > abs(spectr_max)) spectr_max =3D temp;
    temp =3D a1 * (2 * Rnd() - 1);
    s[n] =3D temp;
    if (abs(temp) > abs(spectr_max)) spectr_max =3D temp;
  }
}
//-----------------------------------------------------------------------=
----
void search_max()
{
  Print("  WAIT...");
  spectr_max =3D 0;
  for (n=3D0;n<=3Dhalfsize;n++){
    temp =3D c[n];
    if (abs(temp) > abs(spectr_max)) spectr_max =3D temp;
    temp =3D s[n];
    if (abs(temp) > abs(spectr_max)) spectr_max =3D temp;
  }
}
//-----------------------------------------------------------------------=
----
void wave_synth()
{
  for (int t=3D0;t<=3Dsamplesize-1;t++){
    for (int n=3D0;n<=3Dhalfsize;n++){
      sample[t] =3D sample[t] + c[n] * cos(f0 * t * n) + s[n] * sin(f0 * =
t * n);
    }
  }
}
//-----------------------------------------------------------------------=
----
void check1()
{
  ampl_sum =3D 0 ; er_sum =3D 0 ; s[0] =3D c[halfsize];
  for (int n=3D0;n<=3Dhalfsize- 1;n++){
    c1 =3D c[n] ; s1 =3D s[n] ; a1 =3D arr[2 * n + 1] ; a2 =3D arr[2 * n =
+ 2];
    ampl_sum =3D ampl_sum + c1 * c1 + s1 * s1;
    er_sum =3D er_sum + (c1 - a1) * (c1 - a1) + (s1 - a2) * (s1 - a2);
  }
  temp =3D ampl_sum / er_sum;

//  Print "  spectr. dynamics:        "; temp; "     "; Round(10 * =
Log10(temp)); "dB"
  sprintf(pbuf,"  spectr. dynamics:        %g     =
%gdB",temp,floor((10.0f * log10(temp))+0.5));
  Print(pbuf);
}
//-----------------------------------------------------------------------=
----
void timing()
{
  sprintf(pbuf,"  max amplitude:                =
%g",ampl_max);Print(pbuf);
  sprintf(pbuf,"  max spectr. line:             =
%g",spectr_max);Print(pbuf);

  sprintf(pbuf,"  realfft time in millisec:     %g",t4-t1);Print(pbuf);
  sprintf(pbuf,"  realift time in millisec:     %g",t7-t6);Print(pbuf);
  sprintf(pbuf,"  exact timing fft,ift average: =
%g",(t9-t8)/200);Print(pbuf);
}
//-----------------------------------------------------------------------=
----
void check2()
{
  ampl_sum =3D 0; er_sum =3D 0;
  for (int n=3D0;n<=3Dsamplesize - 1;n++){
    a1 =3D sample[n] ; a2 =3D arr[n + 1] ; ampl_sum =3D ampl_sum + a1 * =
a1 ;
    er_sum =3D er_sum + (a1 - a2) * (a1 - a2);
  }
  temp =3D ampl_sum / er_sum;
//  Print "  sample dynamics:         "; temp; "     "; Round(10 * =
Log10(temp)); "dB"
  sprintf(pbuf,"  sample dynamics:        %g     %gdB",temp,floor((10.0f =
* log10(temp))+0.5));
  Print(pbuf);
}
//-----------------------------------------------------------------------=
----
void amplset(long logbase2,double *spectr,double *a)
{
  long half;
  double temp1, temp2;
  int idx1,idx2;
  half =3D 1 << (logbase2 - 1);
  for (n=3D0;n<=3Dhalf- 1;n++){
    idx1=3D(n << 1) + 1;
    idx2=3D(n << 1) + 2;
    temp1 =3D spectr[idx1];
    temp2 =3D spectr[idx2];
    a[n] =3D sqrt(temp1 * temp1 + temp2 * temp2);
  }
}
//-----------------------------------------------------------------------=
----
void clear_sample()
{
  memset(sample,sizeof(sample),0);
}
//-----------------------------------------------------------------------=
----
void cpy()
{
  ampl_max =3D 0;
  for (int n=3D0;n<=3Dsamplesize-1;n++){
    temp =3D sample[n] ; arr[n + 1] =3D temp;
    if (abs(temp) > abs(ampl_max)) ampl_max =3D temp;
  }
}
//-----------------------------------------------------------------------=
----
void four1(long nn, long isign, double *dta)
{
  long nfour=3D0, jfour=3D0, ifour=3D0, mfour=3D0, mmaxfour=3D0, =
istepfour=3D0;
  double thetafour=3D0, wtempfour=3D0, wprfour=3D0, wpifour=3D0, =
wrfour=3D0,
          wifour=3D0, temprfour=3D0, tempifour=3D0;

  nfour =3D nn << 1 ; jfour =3D 1;
  for (ifour=3D1;ifour<=3Dnfour-2;ifour+=3D2){
    if (jfour > ifour){
      double tmp=3Ddta[jfour];
      dta[jfour]=3Ddta[ifour];dta[ifour]=3Dtmp;
      tmp=3Ddta[jfour+1];
      dta[jfour+1]=3Ddta[ifour+1];dta[ifour+1]=3Dtmp;
    }
    mfour =3D nfour >> 1;
    while (mfour>=3D2 && jfour > mfour){
      jfour=3D-mfour;
      mfour=3Dmfour >> 1;
    }
    jfour+=3Dmfour;
  }
  mmaxfour =3D 2;
  while (nfour > mmaxfour){
    istepfour =3D 2*mmaxfour; thetafour =3D 2 * M_PI / (isign*mmaxfour) =
;
    wtempfour =3D sin(0.5 * thetafour);
    wprfour =3D -2 * wtempfour * wtempfour ; wpifour =3D sin(thetafour) =
; wrfour =3D 1 ; wifour =3D 0;
    for (mfour =3D 1;mfour<=3Dmmaxfour - 1;mfour+=3D2){
      for (ifour =3D mfour;ifour<=3Dnfour;ifour+=3Distepfour){
        jfour =3D ifour+mmaxfour;temprfour =3D wrfour * dta[jfour] - =
wifour * dta[jfour + 1];
        tempifour =3D wrfour * dta[jfour + 1] + wifour * dta[jfour] ; =
dta[jfour] =3D dta[ifour] - temprfour;
        dta[jfour + 1] =3D dta[ifour + 1] - =
tempifour;dta[ifour]+=3Dtemprfour ; dta[ifour + 1]+=3Dtempifour;
      }
      wtempfour =3D wrfour ; wrfour+=3Dwrfour * wprfour - wifour * =
wpifour;wifour+=3Dwifour * wprfour + wtempfour * wpifour;
    }
    mmaxfour =3D istepfour;
  }
}
//-----------------------------------------------------------------------=
----
void realfft(long logbase2, double *dta)
{
  long nfft=3D0, i1fft=3D0, i2fft=3D0, i3fft=3D0, i4fft=3D0;
  double nrfft=3D0, c1fft=3D0, thetafft=3D0, wtemp1fft=3D0, wprfft=3D0, =
wpifft=3D0, wrfft=3D0, wifft=3D0;
  double h1rfft=3D0, h2rfft=3D0, h1ifft=3D0, h2ifft=3D0, wtemp2fft=3D0;
  nfft =3D 1 << (logbase2 - 1);
  nrfft =3D 1 / nfft;
  c1fft =3D 0.5 * nrfft;
  thetafft =3D M_PI / nfft;
  four1(nfft, 1, dta);
  wtemp1fft =3D sin(0.5 * thetafft);
  wprfft =3D -2 * wtemp1fft * wtemp1fft;
  wpifft =3D sin(thetafft);
  wrfft =3D 1 + wprfft;
  wifft =3D wpifft;
  i1fft =3D 3;
  i2fft =3D i1fft + 1;
  i4fft =3D nfft << 1;
  i3fft =3D i4fft - 1;
  while (i3fft > i2fft){
    h1rfft =3D c1fft * (dta[i1fft] + dta[i3fft]);
    h1ifft =3D c1fft * (dta[i2fft] - dta[i4fft]);
    h2rfft =3D c1fft * (dta[i2fft] + dta[i4fft]);
    h2ifft =3D c1fft * (dta[i3fft] - dta[i1fft]);
    wtemp1fft =3D wrfft * h2ifft + wifft * h2rfft;
    wtemp2fft =3D wrfft * h2rfft - wifft * h2ifft;
    dta[i1fft] =3D h1rfft + wtemp2fft;
    dta[i2fft] =3D h1ifft + wtemp1fft;
    dta[i3fft] =3D h1rfft - wtemp2fft;
    dta[i4fft] =3D wtemp1fft - h1ifft;
    wtemp1fft =3D wrfft;
    wrfft =3D wrfft * (1 + wprfft) - wifft * wpifft;
    wifft =3D wifft * (1 + wprfft) + wtemp1fft * wpifft;
    i1fft =3D i1fft + 2;
    i2fft =3D i2fft + 2;
    i3fft =3D i3fft - 2;
    i4fft =3D i4fft - 2;
  }
  h1rfft =3D dta[1];
  dta[1] =3D c1fft * (h1rfft + dta[2]);
  dta[2] =3D c1fft * (h1rfft - dta[2]);
  dta[nfft + 1] =3D dta[nfft + 1] * nrfft;
  dta[nfft + 2] =3D dta[nfft + 2] * nrfft;
}
//-----------------------------------------------------------------------=
----
void realift(long logbase2, double *dta)
{
  long nift=3D0, i1ift, i2ift, i3ift, i4ift;
  double c1ift=3D0, thetaift=3D0, wprift=3D0, wpiift=3D0, wrift=3D0, =
wiift=3D0;
  double h1rift=3D0, h1iift=3D0, h2rift=3D0, h2iift=3D0, wtemp1ift=3D0, =
wtemp2ift=3D0;
  nift =3D 1 << (logbase2 - 1);
  c1ift =3D 0.5;
  thetaift =3D -M_PI / nift;
  wtemp1ift =3D sin(0.5 * thetaift);
  wprift =3D -2 * wtemp1ift * wtemp1ift;
  wpiift =3D sin(thetaift);
  wrift =3D 1 + wprift;
  wiift =3D wpiift;
  i1ift =3D 3;
  i2ift =3D 4;
  i4ift =3D nift << 1;
  i3ift =3D i4ift - 1;
  while (i3ift > i2ift){
    h1rift =3D c1ift * (dta[i1ift] + dta[i3ift]);
    h1iift =3D c1ift * (dta[i2ift] - dta[i4ift]);
    h2rift =3D -c1ift * (dta[i2ift] + dta[i4ift]);
    h2iift =3D c1ift * (dta[i1ift] - dta[i3ift]);
    wtemp1ift =3D wrift * h2iift + wiift * h2rift;
    wtemp2ift =3D wrift * h2rift - wiift * h2iift;
    dta[i1ift] =3D h1rift + wtemp2ift;
    dta[i2ift] =3D h1iift + wtemp1ift;
    dta[i3ift] =3D h1rift - wtemp2ift;
    dta[i4ift] =3D wtemp1ift - h1iift;
    wtemp1ift =3D wrift;
    wrift =3D wrift * (1 + wprift) - wiift * wpiift;
    wiift =3D wiift * (1 + wprift) + wtemp1ift * wpiift;
    i1ift =3D i1ift + 2;
    i2ift =3D i2ift + 2;
    i3ift =3D i3ift - 2 ;
    i4ift =3D i4ift - 2;
  }
  h1rift =3D dta[1];
  dta[1] =3D h1rift + dta[2];
  dta[2] =3D h1rift - dta[2];
  four1(nift, -1, dta);
}
//-----------------------------------------------------------------------=
----
void Print(char *ToAdd)
{
  char text[1000];
  int len=3DSendMessage(Edit,WM_GETTEXTLENGTH,0,0);
  len+=3Dstrlen(ToAdd);
  SendMessage(Edit,WM_GETTEXT,len+1,(long)text);
  strcat(text,ToAdd);strcat(text,"\r\n");
  SendMessage(Edit,WM_SETTEXT,0,(long)text);
}
//-----------------------------------------------------------------------=
----
int WINAPI WinMain(HINSTANCE Inst, HINSTANCE PrevInst, LPSTR ComLine, =
int ComShow)
{
	try{
		wnd.style=3DCS_BYTEALIGNWINDOW | CS_DBLCLKS;
		wnd.lpfnWndProc=3DWndProc;
	  wnd.cbWndExtra=3D0;
	  wnd.hInstance=3DInst;
   	wnd.hIcon=3DNULL;
	  wnd.hCursor=3DLoadCursor(NULL,IDC_ARROW);
  	wnd.hbrBackground=3D0;
		wnd.lpszMenuName=3DNULL;
	  wnd.lpszClassName=3D"GBTest_Class";
   	RegisterClass(&wnd);
   	Win=3DCreateWindowEx(0,wnd.lpszClassName,"Speed Test",
	      WS_CAPTION|WS_SYSMENU|WS_VISIBLE|WS_MINIMIZEBOX
      	,100,100,400,250
        ,0,0,Inst,0);
		if (IsWindow(Win)){
      Edit=3DCreateWindowEx(512,"EDIT","",
                      WS_CHILDWINDOW | WS_VISIBLE | ES_MULTILINE | =
ES_WANTRETURN | ES_READONLY,
                      20,10,350,200,Win,(HANDLE)100,Inst,0);
      Start();
    }
	}catch (...){
  	MessageBox(0,"There has been an error","Oh",MB_ICONEXCLAMATION);
	}
	return 0;
}
//-----------------------------------------------------------------------=
----
long __stdcall WndProc(HANDLE hWnd,unsigned int message,unsigned int =
wParam,long lParam)
{
	switch (message){
  case WM_PAINT:case WM_NCPAINT:{
		PAINTSTRUCT ps;
		BeginPaint(Win,&ps);
		RECT box;GetClientRect(Win,&box);
		HANDLE br=3DCreateSolidBrush(GetSysColor(COLOR_BTNFACE));
   	FillRect(ps.hdc,&box,br);
    DeleteObject(br);
    EndPaint(Win,&ps);
		break;
  }case WM_CLOSE:
    break;
  case WM_DESTROY:
		PostQuitMessage(0);
    break;
  }
	return DefWindowProc(hWnd,message,wParam,lParam);
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List Member "Russell Hayward" <russ@softhome.net> wrote:

Whoops, I hadn't tried the English version, the GB32 trial is now
downloading fine using GetRight.

I'm a plonker,
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List Member "Georg Veichtlbauer" <veichtlbauer@gmx.at> wrote:
> I'm sure those minor compatibilities will be removed by the time it hits
the
> shops. <G>

Let's see who is faster: Microsoft in removing the compatibility for GB32,
or GFA making GB32 compatible again... <G>

> > And - I know this is very unlikely for Microsoft - the whole thing works
> > _faster_
>
> Surely that is not possible!

Very strange, isnt it? <G>

> I was going to upgrade recently but the price of memory trebled just as I
> was about to take the plunge. I guess I'm just going to have to stand that
> constant swap-file activity for a while yet. :-|

If you really wnat to use Win2000 (and not only start it up), you will need
128MB RAM. It works fine with 128MB, better would be 256...
You did not really believe that a Microsoft product would be really faster
without a tremendous faster computer? <G>


Bye,
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
At 08:05 PM 02/11/99 +0100, you wrote:
>List Member "Georg Veichtlbauer" <veichtlbauer@gmx.at> wrote:
>> I'm sure those minor compatibilities will be removed by the time it hits
>the
>> shops. <G>
>
>Let's see who is faster: Microsoft in removing the compatibility for GB32,
>or GFA making GB32 compatible again... <G>
>
>> > And - I know this is very unlikely for Microsoft - the whole thing works
>> > _faster_
>>
>> Surely that is not possible!
>
>Very strange, isnt it? <G>
>
>> I was going to upgrade recently but the price of memory trebled just as I
>> was about to take the plunge. I guess I'm just going to have to stand that
>> constant swap-file activity for a while yet. :-|
>
>If you really wnat to use Win2000 (and not only start it up), you will need
>128MB RAM. It works fine with 128MB, better would be 256...
>You did not really believe that a Microsoft product would be really faster
>without a tremendous faster computer? <G>
>
>
>Bye,
> Georg
>


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    A man was walking along the beach and found a bottle.  He
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    The man thought for a minute and said, "Well, I have always
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    The genie was taken aback a bit, but after some thought said,
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Hi Russell,
Would you mind explaining to the rest of us what a 'plonker' is?

> I'm a plonker,
> Russell Hayward
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
To All:
I am starting a Tips File for the new GB32HELP Windows Help File.  If you
have any tips on using GB32 please send them to me.  I can use all that I
can collect.
John Findlay sent a new GB32 program showing how to create Toolbar buttons.
Very nice. It is available or download from the GFAWHELP web site below.
Don't miss it!
Dale
adbryant@msn.com
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List Member "Russell Hayward" <russ@softhome.net> wrote:

> Would you mind explaining to the rest of us what a 'plonker' is?

An idiot, epecially who doesn't test things out before he starts ranting
about them <G>.

As far as I know nothing like a woosie, but let's not get into that again.
:-D

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List Member "Russell Hayward" <russ@softhome.net> wrote:

> Let's see who is faster: Microsoft in removing the compatibility for GB32,
> or GFA making GB32 compatible again... <G>

I wonder if GFA would charge it's customers for that update?

> If you really wnat to use Win2000 (and not only start it up), you will
need
> 128MB RAM. It works fine with 128MB, better would be 256...

I was going to go up to 96Mb and maybe upgrade again when I get Windows 2000
sometime in 2001/2002 when they release the 'second edition' or 'version
that works'. :->

> You did not really believe that a Microsoft product would be really faster
> without a tremendous faster computer? <G>

God forbid! Well that's progress for you, the way it's going Windows 2005
will need a gigabyte of memory and each VB program will take up 500Mb of
your hard disk. I suppose they take nearly that much now :-D.

Looking forward to an even more bloated future,
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
In case of any interest in the mundane (but IMPORTANT)...

I have a box of new 1.44M floppies.  In testing for presence or absence
of a volume label, I discovered that these disks all have the following:

label: b_chr$(13)F|F| - that's 7 char, #3 being char$(13)

lcase "b", underscore, char$(13), ucase "F", pipe, ucase "F", pipe,
pipe being shift+left-slash (\)

date stamp: 01/00/2044
time stamp: 08:48:00

IF I label a 1.44M floppy, leaving the entry blank, on the 486 (6 yrs
old) or the P-100 (3 yrs old), both put that same label, date stamp, &
time stamp on them.

Question: Why the Y2K scramble?  *Something* is set for the far future!

What brought this discovery about was the attempt to discerne an valid
volume label from a bogus (or missing) label.  I know that it is possible
(under some condition!) to enter a char$(0) to get a "space", but I've
never been successful doing it.

Conclusion:
a lot of odd chars can be put into a volume label, filename or dirname, as
long as they are not between char$(1) & char$(31) inclusive.  However...
"/" & "\" are seen as designating a subdir & will cause havoc!

Just for info: by shelling to DOS, volume labels & hundreds of other things
not possible using built-in functions are possible to do.  What a pity & a
waste to have to resort to DOS in a Windows program!

<G>
TomR.

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List Member Micromiser Software <miser@cde.com> wrote:
At 12:22 AM 11/3/99 -0000, you wrote:

>An idiot, epecially who doesn't test things out before he starts ranting
>about them <G>.
>
Hi Russ,

It's always a software fault. It's never an operator fault.

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List Member "Andras Szalay" <a.szalay@mail.matav.hu> wrote:
From:"Russell Hayward" <russ@softhome.net>
>>God forbid! Well that's progress for you, the way it's going Windows 2005
>>will need a gigabyte of memory and each VB program will take up 500Mb of
>>your hard disk. I suppose they take nearly that much now :-D.

Russel, I think you underestimate the trend. 2005 is 6 years ahead of us; 
6 years ago, in 1993 I worked very happily under W3.1 with only 4 Mb 
RAM on my PC. Just a few month ago I had to upgrade to 128 Mb
because my PC was getting very slow. This means a factor of 32 * for 
5 years. So, my guess for 2005 is 4 gigabytes of RAM.
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
At 07:46 PM 03/11/99 +0100, you wrote:
>List Member "Andras Szalay" <a.szalay@mail.matav.hu> wrote:
>From:"Russell Hayward" <russ@softhome.net>
>>>God forbid! Well that's progress for you, the way it's going Windows 2005
>>>will need a gigabyte of memory and each VB program will take up 500Mb of
>>>your hard disk. I suppose they take nearly that much now :-D.
>
>Russel, I think you underestimate the trend. 2005 is 6 years ahead of us; 
>6 years ago, in 1993 I worked very happily under W3.1 with only 4 Mb 
>RAM on my PC. Just a few month ago I had to upgrade to 128 Mb
>because my PC was getting very slow. This means a factor of 32 * for 
>5 years. So, my guess for 2005 is 4 gigabytes of RAM.
>		Andras
>

1985-1990, I was satisfied w/ being able to switch 2 banks of 64K
in a TRS-80 Model 4.
1990-1993, I was thrilled with 1M in a Mac PLUS.
Now I have 24M in a P-100, run Win95a, & am on the very shy side for
a lot of the appls I need to use.

As "things" get better, things! get far worse & the scale is phenominal!
<G>
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List Member Anthony Watson <awatson@pacifier.com> wrote:
Tom,

> 1985-1990, I was satisfied w/ being able to switch 2 banks of 64K
> in a TRS-80 Model 4.
> 1990-1993, I was thrilled with 1M in a Mac PLUS.
> Now I have 24M in a P-100, run Win95a, & am on the very shy side for
> a lot of the appls I need to use.

My first computer, an Interact Model 1, had only 16K of RAM. And, since
programs were written in low level assembly language, even that small
amount seemed plenty.

I first upgraded to an 8-bit Atari 600XL and thought 64K RAM was a LOT!
Heck, 20 Meg hard drives were HUGE back then! Ha. Ha.

I think the thing that annoys me the most is that every generation
requires a new memory format. First were individual RAM chips, then came
30-pin SIMMS, then 72-Pin SIMMS, than 168-PIN DIMM's, and so on.. In other
words, you have to toss your previous investment to run the latest and
greatest! What a pain... Ha. Ha.

Anthony Watson
Mountain Software
support@mountain-software.com
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
I thought memory was fairly cheap. I just asked at COMP USA what it would
cost to upgrade to 128mb. $499.00 plus $30.00 labor. I think I will just
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> List Member Anthony Watson <awatson@pacifier.com> wrote:
> Tom,
>
> > 1985-1990, I was satisfied w/ being able to switch 2 banks of 64K
> > in a TRS-80 Model 4.
> > 1990-1993, I was thrilled with 1M in a Mac PLUS.
> > Now I have 24M in a P-100, run Win95a, & am on the very shy side for
> > a lot of the appls I need to use.
>
> My first computer, an Interact Model 1, had only 16K of RAM. And, since
> programs were written in low level assembly language, even that small
> amount seemed plenty.
>
> I first upgraded to an 8-bit Atari 600XL and thought 64K RAM was a LOT!
> Heck, 20 Meg hard drives were HUGE back then! Ha. Ha.
>
> I think the thing that annoys me the most is that every generation
> requires a new memory format. First were individual RAM chips, then came
> 30-pin SIMMS, then 72-Pin SIMMS, than 168-PIN DIMM's, and so on.. In other
> words, you have to toss your previous investment to run the latest and
> greatest! What a pain... Ha. Ha.
>
> Anthony Watson
> Mountain Software
> support@mountain-software.com
> http://www.mountain-software.com
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
At 04:48 PM 03/11/99 -0800, you wrote:
>List Member Anthony Watson <awatson@pacifier.com> wrote:
>Tom,
>
>> 1985-1990, I was satisfied w/ being able to switch 2 banks of 64K
>> in a TRS-80 Model 4.
>> 1990-1993, I was thrilled with 1M in a Mac PLUS.
>> Now I have 24M in a P-100, run Win95a, & am on the very shy side for
>> a lot of the appls I need to use.
>
>My first computer, an Interact Model 1, had only 16K of RAM. And, since
>programs were written in low level assembly language, even that small
>amount seemed plenty.
>
>I first upgraded to an 8-bit Atari 600XL and thought 64K RAM was a LOT!
>Heck, 20 Meg hard drives were HUGE back then! Ha. Ha.
>
>I think the thing that annoys me the most is that every generation
>requires a new memory format. First were individual RAM chips, then came
>30-pin SIMMS, then 72-Pin SIMMS, than 168-PIN DIMM's, and so on.. In other
>words, you have to toss your previous investment to run the latest and
>greatest! What a pain... Ha. Ha.
>
>Anthony Watson
>Mountain Software
>support@mountain-software.com
>http://www.mountain-software.com
>

Hard drives... you had a hard drive?
(0v0)
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List Member "Bev & Lou Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
Jees, I started with a 1K Sinclair & managed to get up to 64K before going
Atari 8-bit. Ha, those were the days - a 256K computer with a 1M MIO; damn,
if I could have found a 20M hard drive (nutz, even a 5M would have done
everything), I might still be using it. Ain't memory grand!!!

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> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> At 04:48 PM 03/11/99 -0800, you wrote:
> >List Member Anthony Watson <awatson@pacifier.com> wrote:
> >Tom,
> >
> >> 1985-1990, I was satisfied w/ being able to switch 2 banks of 64K
> >> in a TRS-80 Model 4.
> >> 1990-1993, I was thrilled with 1M in a Mac PLUS.
> >> Now I have 24M in a P-100, run Win95a, & am on the very shy side for
> >> a lot of the appls I need to use.
> >
> >My first computer, an Interact Model 1, had only 16K of RAM. And, since
> >programs were written in low level assembly language, even that small
> >amount seemed plenty.
> >
> >I first upgraded to an 8-bit Atari 600XL and thought 64K RAM was a LOT!
> >Heck, 20 Meg hard drives were HUGE back then! Ha. Ha.
> >
> >I think the thing that annoys me the most is that every generation
> >requires a new memory format. First were individual RAM chips, then came
> >30-pin SIMMS, then 72-Pin SIMMS, than 168-PIN DIMM's, and so on.. In
other
> >words, you have to toss your previous investment to run the latest and
> >greatest! What a pain... Ha. Ha.
> >
> >Anthony Watson
> >Mountain Software
> >support@mountain-software.com
> >http://www.mountain-software.com
> >
>
> Hard drives... you had a hard drive?
> (0v0)
> TomR.
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List Member "RMC" <softprod@hartingdale.com.au> wrote:
All this nostalgia!

I can remember have a cassette tape, no drives, paying extra money to have a
drive, 10 inch floppies (or was it eight inch floppies). Machines with just
two floppy drives and a ram drive if you were lucky.

When 10 meg drives came along they cost a fortune and I dreamt of the day
when I could afford one. When I got one I thought, "I'LL NEVER FILL THIS".
Then 20 then 100 meg etc. etc.

Now you need 64 meg of ram just to load Win 98, I have 6 gig of hard drive
and I'm keep running out of space.

I about to upgrade to a Pentium 500 with 20 gig of drive, CD burner etc etc
and I'll bet in a short time I'll need more hard drive.

Where will it all end, but I must say they are a lot cheaper now,
particularly drive space!


Reuben

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List Member "Roland Walter" <roland@rowalt.de> wrote:
Hallo folks,
The attachement of this mail contains a
program I have written which is able
to compress bitmaps with several kinds
of compression. Also there is a GFA
Basic example showing how to make an
own viewer program for compressed BMPs.
(The viewer has about 50 lines of code.)
Because Video for Windows compression
is used You will not need an extra DLL
which offers the compression.
Also You have the benefit of DirectDraw
capability (very fast and full color at
systems with less colors).
That's "just" all, have fun,
Roland
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From: "Roland Walter" <roland@rowalt.de>
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List Member "Roland Walter" <roland@rowalt.de> wrote:
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Subject: [gfabasic] GB32: EVAL function
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List Member bdd <BrentDeck@compuserve.com> wrote:
I downloaded the trial copy of GFA32 and have the following commments: =


1) The EVAL statement can be very powerful. In the demo,  =

however, it appears limited to using numeric constants =

and hash lookups. And EVAL cannot be used to declare =

or assign values to the hash "variables" or to call =

program functions and procedures.

A common use for this type of statement is in =

evaluating strings input by the user. For instance, =

a drawing program may allow the user to define the =

shape of a curve, or a rendering program may allow a =

user to input an equation for a camera path.

In order for this to be useful, the following are necessary:

        a) Allow program variables and arrays in an EVAL string.
        (especially arrays)
        =

        b) Allow user to declare variables or arrays at runtime in
                     an EVAL string

        c) Allow an assignment from within and EVAL string, ie:
                ~ EVAL(a=3Db+25)

        d) Allow calls to program-defined functions and procedures.

        e) Allow programmer to restrict EVAL access (read or read/write) =

        to a subset of variables and arrays. (especially arrays)

Are there any plans to do any of these capabilities? =


With the exception of item e, these features were all available
nearly 20 years ago on the Apple II. Nearly anything that could be done =

from a program line could be done from an executable string in extended
Basic.

**** A Simple Solution ****

A workaround feature that would accomplish A, D and E would be to
allow a hash table to ALIAS program variables, system variables, =

arrays, functions, and procedures, as well as the normal hash values =

defined at runtime.

The programmer could then create simple names within the hash table to
alias those  =

variables which he wants to allow. For each hash entry, a write privelege=

parameter
could be set to prevent unauthorized writing. =


Items B and C could be done by the programmer, but would be faster if don=
e
by GFA.



Thanks,

Brent
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List Member Anthony Watson <awatson@pacifier.com> wrote:
Reuben,

> I can remember have a cassette tape, no drives

Yeah, my Interact computer had a built-in tape cassette deck with no
option to connect external drives. Loading any program required a few
minutes of listening to tape squeeling just to load the program! Ha. Ha.

> 10 inch floppies (or was it eight inch floppies).

My first floppy drive was a 5-1/4" floppy for my 8-bit Atari.

> a ram drive if you were lucky.

Yeah, those were cool. Drives were rather slow back then, so I often used
a RAM drive for temporary operations like decompressing files and whatnot.

> "I'LL NEVER FILL THIS". Then 20 then 100 meg etc. etc.

The unfortunate downside of the increased storage space is sloppy
programming. It seems no one appreciates a tight compact program
anymore. I guess I still live in the days when you had to reduce your
code to as few assembly op-codes as possible... Ha. Ha.

> I have 6 gig of hard drive and I'm keep running out of space.

I have a 4 gig drive, divided into 2 partitions. But, I'm only using about
1 gig of space, as I offload most of my static data to CD-ROMS.

Anthony


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List Member Dean Hodgson <dhodgson@nexus.edu.au> wrote:
Bev & Lou Brown wrote:
> 
> List Member "Bev & Lou Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
> Jees, I started with a 1K Sinclair & managed to get up to 64K before going
> Atari 8-bit. Ha, those were the days - a 256K computer with a 1M MIO; damn,
> if I could have found a 20M hard drive (nutz, even a 5M would have done
> everything), I might still be using it. Ain't memory grand!!!
> 
>                                                    ->Bev<--

OK guys. This may predate (except maybe Tom, who is *ancient*...remember the ice ages,
Tom? I do!)

I started working in Fortran IV on an IBM 1401 with punch cards. 1968.
Then went to an IBM 360 with teletype. 1970.

First micro was a HP desktop machine with a whopping 4k of Ram and a cassette tape drive.
1978.
Bought a TRS-80 Model I in 1979 with 4k of Ram. Upgraded it to 16k then later 48k.
Cassette tape. No floppy drive! I still have this beast in a box in the shed, covered with
dust.
Had a Colour Computer with 16k later upgraded (by myself) to 64k. Tape & floppy drive.
Wrote my first commercial programs with this computer and sold them to Tandy Australia.
Had a VIC-20. 3k Ram. Slow....
Also a Commodore 64, Tandy MC-10, and Amstrad 6128 (U.K. Z80 machine with a 3-inch floppy
built into the keyboard and 128k Ram, rather a good 8-bit beast).
Of course I still have all these machines in the shed, full of dust. I don't have the
heart to throw them out as they still work (I think). One day my wife will probably do
it...

 
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Subject: [gfabasic] *.pic revisited
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
@ 8-bit screen colordepth      w    h  colordepth
D:\PLAYTIME\PIC\125_24.BMP   125  125 24bit color
D:\PLAYTIME\PIC\125_8.BMP    125  125  8bit color
D:\PLAYTIME\PIC\25_24.BMP     25   25 24bit color
D:\PLAYTIME\PIC\254_24.BMP   254   25 24bit color
D:\PLAYTIME\PIC\254_8.BMP    254   25  8bit color
D:\PLAYTIME\PIC\5_24.BMP       5    5 24bit color
D:\PLAYTIME\PIC\5_8.BMP        5    5  8bit color
D:\PLAYTIME\PIC\500_8.BMP    500  125  8bit color

byte        1 2   3   4  5  6   7 8   9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18
125_24.PIC  1 0 148  61 80 82 125 0 125  0 126 0   1  8  0  0  0  0
125_8.PIC   1 0 148  61 80 82 125 0 125  0 126 0   1  8  0  0  0  0
25_24.PIC   1 0 152   2 80 82  25 0  25  0  26 0   1  8  0  0  0  0
254_24.PIC  1 0 220  24 80 82 254 0  25  0 254 0   1  8  0  0  0  0
254_8.PIC   1 0 220  24 80 82 254 0  25  0 254 0   1  8  0  0  0  0
5_24.PIC    1 0  44   0 80 82   5 0   5  0   6 0   1  8  0  0  0  0
5_8.PIC     1 0  44   0 80 82   5 0   5  0   6 0   1  8  0  0  0  0
500_8.PIC   2 0  26 123 80 82 244 1  63  0 244 1   1  8  0  0  0  0

@ 16-bit screen colordepth     w    h  colordepth
D:\PLAYTIME\PIC\125_24.BMP   125  125 24bit color
D:\PLAYTIME\PIC\125_8.BMP    125  125  8bit color
D:\PLAYTIME\PIC\25_24.BMP     25   25 24bit color
D:\PLAYTIME\PIC\25_8.BMP      25   25  8bit color
D:\PLAYTIME\PIC\254_24.BMP   254   25 24bit color
D:\PLAYTIME\PIC\254_8.BMP    254   25  8bit color
D:\PLAYTIME\PIC\5_24.BMP       5    5 24bit color
D:\PLAYTIME\PIC\5_8.BMP        5    5  8bit color
D:\PLAYTIME\PIC\500_24.BMP   500  125 24bit color
D:\PLAYTIME\PIC\500_8.BMP    500  125  8bit color

byte        1 2   3   4  5  6   7 8   9 10 11  12 13 14 15 16 17 18
125_24.PIC  1 0  32 122 80 82 125 0 125  0 250  0  1 16  0  0  0  0
125_8.PIC   1 0  32 122 80 82 125 0 125  0 250  0  1 16  0  0  0  0
25_24.PIC   1 0 240   4 80 82  25 0  25  0  50  0  1 16  0  0  0  0
25_8.PIC    1 0 240   4 80 82  25 0  25  0  50  0  1 16  0  0  0  0
254_24.PIC  1 0 170  49 80 82 254 0  25  0 252  1  1 16  0  0  0  0
254_8.PIC   1 0 170  49 80 82 254 0  25  0 252  1  1 16  0  0  0  0
5_24.PIC    1 0  64   0 80 82   5 0   5  0  10  0  1 16  0  0  0  0
5_8.PIC     1 0  64   0 80 82   5 0   5  0  10  0  1 16  0  0  0  0
500_24.PIC  4 0  14 125 80 82 244 1  32  0 232  3  1 16  0  0  0  0
500_8.PIC   4 0  14 125 80 82 244 1  32  0 232  3  1 16  0  0  0  0

The *.pic file written by load_pic.lst has an 18-byte header.

Byte 1 would appear to be a factor in the coding of the size.

Byte 2 seems to always be a "0".

Byte 3 ?
Byte 4 ?

Byte 5 always contains a "P", part of the internal ID.

Byte 6 always contains an "R", the other part of the internal ID.

Byte 7 holds the image width up to 255, then goes into a code.

Byte 8 seems to figure in the width.

Byte 9 holds the image height up to 255, then goes into a code.

Byte 10 seems to figure in the height.

Byte 11 seems to be X+Y unless one is over 255.

Byte 12 ?
Btrw 13 ?

Byte 14 appears to be the colordepth the monitor is set to, therefore 
is likely the colordepth of the *.pic file.

Byte 15, 16, 17 & 18 seem to always contain a "0".

My math is lousy, so I can't see what the factors are for X & Y if 
over 255.

I also don't see why one written at 8-bit won't show at 16-bit.

Any ideas?
<G>
TomR.


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List Member bdd <BrentDeck@compuserve.com> wrote:
' RTFTEST.G32    11/99    Brent Deck

' Here's my first shot at writing a little do-nothing program in GFA32
' This program does nothing but put a small RTF edit box on the screen.

' After a day with the demo of GFA32, I like the interface. It operates
' like a combination of a good resource editor connected to "FACE VALUE"
' on the ST. The split window function is very well thought out. It doesn=
t
' waste your time resizing windows.
'
' I haven't spent any time with VB, but I figured out GFA32 with German
instructions
' faster than I learned Optima++ with English instructions. (I read no
German )
'
' Minor annoyances in the Trial editor:
'
' 1 Often, in order to display form properties in the editor, you must
first
'   display the properties of one of the form's children.
'
' 2 When creating event handlers, the visual IDE will create the "Sub
cmdXXX_xxx()"
'   line, but it will not create the "End Sub" line. This is a design
choice that
'   worries me.
'
' 3 How do I create a form without a titlebar?
'
' 4 If you change a button's font from the parent form font, how do you
change it back?
'   The only way I can see is to destroy the button and replace it with
another one.
'
'##E#
' 5 Some of the sample programs will lock up the editor when closed (ie:
FRAME.G32)
'
' 6 Keyget and Input are much better than in GB16, but not perfec. If you=

close a program
'   while Keyget is waiting for a key, or Input is waiting for a Return,
the editor will
'   freeze until a key is pressed.
'
' 7 The RTF object seems to have trouble clipping at the left margin when=

word wrap
'   is performed. This example shows the problem. Is this MS or GFA?
'
' 8 I have no idea how one does cut and paste between 2 GFA32 Programs wh=
en
all the API code
'   is encoded as a resource. And there is no MERGE command. How does one=

reuse code?
'
' Of course the inability to write freestanding code or DLLs or VxDs ets,=

is a troublesome.
' But GFA32 looks as though it will be very useful, regardless.
'
'
// Program begins here. Note that all API functions are in the resource.

LoadForm frm1

Do
  PeekEvent
Loop Until Me Is Nothing

Sub cmdExit_Click                                // This line created by
GFA 32
  PostMessage frm1.hWnd, WM_CLOSE, 0, 0
End Sub                                          // But not this line

// Program ends here, as seen in editor
//
//
$DatFile
:{frm1 185
CAAAAUCRAA8NEBAAWWEAAEWR4AQFSRlRgASRYFUTQxURAMxwAAABNNFITFmbzByUlJXamBAAA=
AA
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QV
Y
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c
gMVZylmZAAAAAAAABEA=3D
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Subject: Re: [gfabasic] GB32 Speed
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
1965/66
Prototyped the first 1,000 line timeshare box.  Until it became reality,
10 lines was the top of the line.  ALL descrete circuitry, very few ICs.
I stayed away from home computing - too rich for me.  Anytime I needed
to run something thru it's paces, the company operators ran it for me
& I just awaited results.

To find a computer techn, one needed only to knock on 6 or 8 doors.  I
had no respect for them because none could go to the component level &
that's where I lived.  They just swapped boards until things worked.

I delighted in teaching *GIRLS* to be better technicians that most guys
ever dreamed about being, & believe me, bending over a girl to see
just what she's talking about was a hell of a lot more pleasant that some
smelly old guy!  When applying for a job, they were always asked just where
they got the idea that they could be technicians <G>.  Telling the boss that
Tom Record said they were good usually got'em top pay without further
discussion.  I reckon *that* was my real contribution to electronics.

<G>
TomR.


At 09:37 AM 05/11/99 +1030, you wrote:
>List Member Dean Hodgson <dhodgson@nexus.edu.au> wrote:
>Bev & Lou Brown wrote:
>> 
>> List Member "Bev & Lou Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
>> Jees, I started with a 1K Sinclair & managed to get up to 64K before going
>> Atari 8-bit. Ha, those were the days - a 256K computer with a 1M MIO; damn,
>> if I could have found a 20M hard drive (nutz, even a 5M would have done
>> everything), I might still be using it. Ain't memory grand!!!
>> 
>>                                                    ->Bev<--
>
>OK guys. This may predate (except maybe Tom, who is *ancient*...remember
the ice ages,
>Tom? I do!)
>
>I started working in Fortran IV on an IBM 1401 with punch cards. 1968.
>Then went to an IBM 360 with teletype. 1970.
>
>First micro was a HP desktop machine with a whopping 4k of Ram and a
cassette tape drive.
>1978.
>Bought a TRS-80 Model I in 1979 with 4k of Ram. Upgraded it to 16k then
later 48k.
>Cassette tape. No floppy drive! I still have this beast in a box in the
shed, covered with
>dust.
>Had a Colour Computer with 16k later upgraded (by myself) to 64k. Tape &
floppy drive.
>Wrote my first commercial programs with this computer and sold them to
Tandy Australia.
>Had a VIC-20. 3k Ram. Slow....
>Also a Commodore 64, Tandy MC-10, and Amstrad 6128 (U.K. Z80 machine with a
3-inch floppy
>built into the keyboard and 128k Ram, rather a good 8-bit beast).
>Of course I still have all these machines in the shed, full of dust. I
don't have the
>heart to throw them out as they still work (I think). One day my wife will
probably do
>it...
>
> 
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Subject: [gfabasic] GB32: Trial Version
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List Member bdd <BrentDeck@compuserve.com> wrote:
' RTFTEST.G32    11/99    Brent Deck

' Here's my first shot at writing a little do-nothing program in GFA32
' This program does nothing but put a small RTF edit box on the screen.

' After a day with the demo of GFA32, I like the interface. It operates
' like a combination of a good resource editor connected to "FACE VALUE"
' on the ST. The split window function is very well thought out. It doesn=
t
' waste your time resizing windows.
'
' I haven't spent any time with VB, but I figured out GFA32 with German i=
nstructions
' faster than I learned Optima++ with English instructions. (I read no Ge=
rman )
'
' Minor annoyances in the Trial editor:
'
' 1 Often, in order to display form properties in the editor, you must fi=
rst
'   display the properties of one of the form's children.
'
' 2 When creating event handlers, the visual IDE will create the "Sub cmd=
XXX_xxx()"
'   line, but it will not create the "End Sub" line. This is a design cho=
ice that
'   worries me.
'
' 3 How do I create a form without a titlebar?
'
' 4 If you change a button's font from the parent form font, how do you c=
hange it back?
'   The only way I can see is to destroy the button and replace it with a=
nother one.
'
' 5 Some of the sample programs will lock up the editor when closed (ie: =
FRAME.G32)
'
' 6 Keyget and Input are much better than in GB16, but not perfec. If you=
 close a program
'   while Keyget is waiting for a key, or Input is waiting for a Return, =
the editor will
'   freeze until a key is pressed.
'
' 7 The RTF object seems to have trouble clipping at the left margin when=
 word wrap
'   is performed. This example shows the problem. Is this MS or GFA?
'
' 8 I have no idea how one does cut and paste between 2 GFA32 Programs wh=
en all the API code
'   is encoded as a resource. And there is no MERGE command. How does one=
 reuse code?
'
' Of course the inability to write freestanding code or DLLs or VxDs ets,=
 is a troublesome.
' But GFA32 looks as though it will be very useful, regardless.
'
'
// Program begins here. Note that all API functions are in the resource.

LoadForm frm1

Do
  PeekEvent
Loop Until Me Is Nothing

Sub cmdExit_Click                                // This line created by =
GFA 32
  PostMessage frm1.hWnd, WM_CLOSE, 0, 0
End Sub                                          // But not this line

// Program ends here, as seen in editor
//
//
$DatFile
:{frm1 185
CAAAAUCRAA8NEBAAWWEAAEWR4AQFSRlRgASRYFUTQxURAMxwAAABNNFITFmbzByUlJXamBAAA=
AAC
AAAgPAAAACAAAAAADAAgAAgc0ZWMAQBAAA3QAAgUDBAA/VEAgFQReAQgAAAAAUAAAAIDwDAAE=
QVY
o9WbhBAAAAAAAAgAj1GZFhXa0BwAAAUIEBAspUEAAIVRAAYnDJCABWEWJRFATMMAAQYTTByUh=
52c
gMVZylmZAAAAAAAABEA=3D
$DatFile=
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List Member "Afonso Gustavo B. Martins" <afonsogustavo@abordo.com.br> wro=
te:
Hi,
Try this:
Make a backup copy o gfatrial.exe. Then usinng a hexeditor find 83 FB 64
7D 23 and change it to 83 FB 64 EB 23 in gfatrial.exe
Run gfatrial.exe and invoke File menu...
An email client?
[]s
Gustavo

P.S.:
0)If you don't know what is a hex editor you don't need to read the next
lines
1)This "modification" is only valid to GFA Trial 1.01 Build 559. It
don't alow you to make anything more than the untouched trial version
permits. It only shows some menu items that can be see in Borland=B4s
Resource Workshp that can be used instead...
2)Don=B4t try to use hexeditor to revert the modified gfatrial.exe to its
original state, instead, restore the backup you made as I recommended in
the begin of message...
3)If you did not made the backup, I recommend to reinstall the
GFA32trial package if you want to put it in its original state...


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List Member Engel Nobbe <bluez@celestial.demon.nl> wrote:
Chaps, there are two maillists, and wouldn't it be wise to move all GFA32
discussions to the other one? Please? So we can keep this area fixed on
GFAwin16... and perhaps a little GFAdos :-)

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
05/11/99 01:28:23 AM

Ok, Roland
What is it going to cost me to see how to compress &
save the files?

<G>
TomR.


05/11/99 01:28:23 

Ok, Roland
Was ob wollen an kosten mir an see wieso an compress &
sparen  dateien?

<G>
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List Member "John Findlay" <John.Findlay@Byte-it.net> wrote:

Brent,

When sending a prog listing, do it as an attachment otherwise
it's no good if there is a resource part. Also this message should
have been sent to the 32 bit list not the 16 bit list.

I'll address some issues that you've raised; though ignorance is at this
time is quite profound. :)

>>>>
When creating event handlers, the visual IDE will create the "Sub
cmdXXX_xxx()" line, but it will not create the "End Sub" line.
This is a design choice that worries me.
>>>>

The code will work without an EndSub, but agreed, it should be there.

>>>>
How do I create a form without a titlebar?
<<<<

Set the BorderStye to "0 'none"

>>>>
If you change a button's font from the parent form font, how do you
change it back? The only way I can see is to destroy the button and
replace it with another one.
>>>>

Create a form, add a button (cmd1) with a font (not Arial), add the code
below;

LoadForm frm1 Center

Do
  Sleep
Loop Until Me Is Nothing

Sub cmd1_Click
  cmd1.FontName = "Arial"
  cmd1.FontSize = 24
EndSub

>>>>
I have no idea how one does cut and paste between 2 GFA32 Programs when
all the API code is encoded as a resource. And there is no MERGE command.
How does one reuse code?
>>>>

We need a way to save out the form!

I may not be right about any of this. I don't read German.

John





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At 07:49 AM 05/11/99 +0100, you wrote:
>List Member Engel Nobbe <bluez@celestial.demon.nl> wrote:
>Chaps, there are two maillists, and wouldn't it be wise to move all GFA32
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>GFAwin16... and perhaps a little GFAdos :-)
>
>Thanks in advance...
>

I agree whole heartedly!  I'm about ready to drop the list _&_ GFA-W(16)
because there is more 32 traffic than 16.
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List Member "Schoenherr, Walter" <Walter.Schoenherr@PZN-Wiesloch.de> wrote:
Filter the cool GB32 stuff out if u dont like it - Directly in the
WastePaperBasket!

Ab in die Drecksch=FCssel!=20

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>List Member Engel Nobbe <bluez@celestial.demon.nl> wrote:
>Chaps, there are two maillists, and wouldn't it be wise to move all
GFA32
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on
>GFAwin16... and perhaps a little GFAdos :-)
>
>Thanks in advance...
>

I agree whole heartedly!  I'm about ready to drop the list _&_ =
GFA-W(16)
because there is more 32 traffic than 16.
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Delete 5, read 1, delete 5, read 1?  There is a list for the 32-bit group.
Add the usual SPAM that one gets & this list is fast loosing it's appeal.
The unnessary missives require download time that is without profit to us.
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At 01:10 PM 05/11/99 +0100, you wrote:
>List Member "Schoenherr, Walter" <Walter.Schoenherr@PZN-Wiesloch.de> wrote:
>Filter the cool GB32 stuff out if u dont like it - Directly in the
>WastePaperBasket!
>
>Ab in die Drecksch=FCssel!=20
>
>-----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----
>Von: Tom Record [mailto:tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net]
>Gesendet am: Freitag, 5. November 1999 12:39
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>List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net>
>wrote:
>At 07:49 AM 05/11/99 +0100, you wrote:
>>List Member Engel Nobbe <bluez@celestial.demon.nl> wrote:
>>Chaps, there are two maillists, and wouldn't it be wise to move all
>GFA32
>>discussions to the other one? Please? So we can keep this area fixed on
>>GFAwin16... and perhaps a little GFAdos :-)
>>
>>Thanks in advance...
>>
>
>I agree whole heartedly!  I'm about ready to drop the list _&_ GFA-W(16)
>because there is more 32 traffic than 16.
>TomR.
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Dear Sir,

Doesnt your EmailClient support rules. If so Make one that everything
that contains=20
""GB32-list" straight forward in the Drecksch=FCssel!!

Sincerly yours

Walter



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Add the usual SPAM that one gets & this list is fast loosing it's
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At 01:10 PM 05/11/99 +0100, you wrote:
>List Member "Schoenherr, Walter" <Walter.Schoenherr@PZN-Wiesloch.de>
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>Filter the cool GB32 stuff out if u dont like it - Directly in the
>WastePaperBasket!
>
>Ab in die Drecksch=FCssel!=20
>
>-----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----
>Von: Tom Record [mailto:tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net]
>Gesendet am: Freitag, 5. November 1999 12:39
>An: gfabasic@gfa.net
>Betreff: Re: [gfabasic] Ehm... could we please move GFA32 messages?
>
>List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net>
>wrote:
>At 07:49 AM 05/11/99 +0100, you wrote:
>>List Member Engel Nobbe <bluez@celestial.demon.nl> wrote:
>>Chaps, there are two maillists, and wouldn't it be wise to move all
>GFA32
>>discussions to the other one? Please? So we can keep this area fixed
on
>>GFAwin16... and perhaps a little GFAdos :-)
>>
>>Thanks in advance...
>>
>
>I agree whole heartedly!  I'm about ready to drop the list _&_
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>because there is more 32 traffic than 16.
>TomR.
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List Member Micromiser Software <miser@cde.com> wrote:
>List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

>I agree whole heartedly!  I'm about ready to drop the list _&_ GFA-W(16)
>because there is more 32 traffic than 16.
>TomR.

It's a problem for me too. I use these messages to form a searchable help
database. 32-bit stuff defeats that purpose and vice versa.

16-bit support must now be unprofitable for GFA. Are there not sites that
will allow free use of a bulletin board in return for the hit count? I'd
prefer that method of communication anyway.

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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
HI Tom,
Don't you dare drop the list. What you are seeing is mostly curiosity.
GFA16 is not going to go away. I know that I will still use it for a lot of
things.  We need you to keep things interesting.
Dale

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> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> At 07:49 AM 05/11/99 +0100, you wrote:
> >List Member Engel Nobbe <bluez@celestial.demon.nl> wrote:
> >Chaps, there are two maillists, and wouldn't it be wise to move all GFA32
> >discussions to the other one? Please? So we can keep this area fixed on
> >GFAwin16... and perhaps a little GFAdos :-)
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> >Thanks in advance...
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> I agree whole heartedly!  I'm about ready to drop the list _&_ GFA-W(16)
> because there is more 32 traffic than 16.
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Subject: [gfabasic] memdc
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List Member bdd <BrentDeck@compuserve.com> wrote:
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Someone asked about memdc here recently.

Attached is a little demo showing how to do palettes in a memdc, =

so that the color matches that of the screen .


Best regards,

Brent

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Subject: Re: [gfabasic] Ehm... could we please move GFA32 messages?
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Questions answered by GFA are at a cash cost already!  They joined MS when
they got their own server(s).  Of little importance to me, tho - I don't
recall ever getting much help except when I discovered my compiler didn't.
One feller there tried, but his English held him back & I could seldom get
him to understand what I needed.

The list is my only source of help & 10-15 32-bit letters for each 16-bit
is becoming tiresome as hell.  They *DO* have a list for their own.

I feel like I've made a few contributions, so I'm not freeloading.  I'd like
to not have to spend 20 min deleting messages that can in no way be of any
interest to me.  I already get a bit of SPAM - that's enough.  I quit AOL
because of SPAM, I can chuck this whole damned thing if need be.  Perhaps
*my* definition of SPAM should *not* include the 32-bit crap, but it does.
It's useless to me, it's aggravating & resource-consuming.
TomR.



At 11:39 AM 05/11/99 -0500, you wrote:
>List Member Micromiser Software <miser@cde.com> wrote:
>>List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>
>>I agree whole heartedly!  I'm about ready to drop the list _&_ GFA-W(16)
>>because there is more 32 traffic than 16.
>>TomR.
>
>It's a problem for me too. I use these messages to form a searchable help
>database. 32-bit stuff defeats that purpose and vice versa.
>
>16-bit support must now be unprofitable for GFA. Are there not sites that
>will allow free use of a bulletin board in return for the hit count? I'd
>prefer that method of communication anyway.
>
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Subject: [gfabasic] msvideo.dll #3
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Has anybody seen the docs on this *.dll?  I've had no luck on the
net or w/ MSDN.  Roland gave us 3, but there are more of great interest.

Exported non-resident functions of MSVIDEO.DLL:

_ICCOMPRESS	224
_ICDECOMPRESS	230
_ICDRAW	234
_ICDRAWBEGIN	232
_ICMESSAGE	207
_MCIWNDCREATE	250
_MCIWNDREGISTERCLASS	251
DRAWDIBBEGIN	104
DRAWDIBCHANGEPALETTE	111
DRAWDIBCLOSE	103
DRAWDIBDRAW	106
DRAWDIBEND	105
DRAWDIBGETBUFFER	120
DRAWDIBGETPALETTE	108
DRAWDIBOPEN	102
DRAWDIBPROFILEDISPLAY	114
DRAWDIBREALIZE	112
DRAWDIBSETPALETTE	110
DRAWDIBSTART	118
DRAWDIBSTOP	119
DRAWDIBTIME	113
GETOPENFILENAMEPREVIEW	252
GETSAVEFILENAMEPREVIEW	253
ICCLOSE	204
ICCOMPRESSORCHOOSE	242
ICCOMPRESSORFREE	243
ICGETDISPLAYFORMAT	239
ICGETINFO	212
ICIMAGECOMPRESS	240
ICIMAGEDECOMPRESS	241
ICINFO	200
ICINSTALL	201
ICLOCATE	213
ICOPEN	203
ICOPENFUNCTION	206
ICREMOVE	202
ICSENDMESSAGE	205
ICSEQCOMPRESSFRAME	246
ICSEQCOMPRESSFRAMEEND	245
ICSEQCOMPRESSFRAMESTART	244
Microsoft Video For Windows APIs	0
STRETCHDIB	115
VIDEOCAPDRIVERDESCANDVER	22
VIDEOCLOSE	29
VIDEOCONFIGURE	32
VIDEOCONFIGURESTORAGE	33
VIDEODIALOG	30
VIDEOFORWINDOWSVERSION	2
VIDEOFRAME	31
VIDEOGETCHANNELCAPS	34
VIDEOGETERRORTEXT	21
VIDEOGETNUMDEVS	20
VIDEOMESSAGE	60
VIDEOOPEN	28
VIDEOSTREAMADDBUFFER	40
VIDEOSTREAMALLOCHDRANDBUFFER	52
VIDEOSTREAMFINI	41
VIDEOSTREAMFREEHDRANDBUFFER	53
VIDEOSTREAMGETERROR	42
VIDEOSTREAMGETPOSITION	43
VIDEOSTREAMINIT	44
VIDEOSTREAMPREPAREHEADER	46
VIDEOSTREAMRESET	47
VIDEOSTREAMSTART	49
VIDEOSTREAMSTOP	50
VIDEOSTREAMUNPREPAREHEADER	51
VIDEOUPDATE	35

Exported resident functions of MSVIDEO.DLL:

DLLENTRYPOINT	3
LS_THUNKDATA16	5
MSVIDEO	0
SL_THUNKDATA16	4
WEP	1

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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Tom, please be patient. I am sure that the users will get it right.
DON'T YOU DARE LEAVE!
Dale

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From: Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net>
To: <gfabasic@gfa.net>
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Subject: Re: [gfabasic] Ehm... could we please move GFA32 messages?


> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Questions answered by GFA are at a cash cost already!  They joined MS when
> they got their own server(s).  Of little importance to me, tho - I don't
> recall ever getting much help except when I discovered my compiler didn't.
> One feller there tried, but his English held him back & I could seldom get
> him to understand what I needed.
>
> The list is my only source of help & 10-15 32-bit letters for each 16-bit
> is becoming tiresome as hell.  They *DO* have a list for their own.
>
> I feel like I've made a few contributions, so I'm not freeloading.  I'd
like
> to not have to spend 20 min deleting messages that can in no way be of any
> interest to me.  I already get a bit of SPAM - that's enough.  I quit AOL
> because of SPAM, I can chuck this whole damned thing if need be.  Perhaps
> *my* definition of SPAM should *not* include the 32-bit crap, but it does.
> It's useless to me, it's aggravating & resource-consuming.
> TomR.
>
>
>
> At 11:39 AM 05/11/99 -0500, you wrote:
> >List Member Micromiser Software <miser@cde.com> wrote:
> >>List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net>
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> >
> >>I agree whole heartedly!  I'm about ready to drop the list _&_ GFA-W(16)
> >>because there is more 32 traffic than 16.
> >>TomR.
> >
> >It's a problem for me too. I use these messages to form a searchable help
> >database. 32-bit stuff defeats that purpose and vice versa.
> >
> >16-bit support must now be unprofitable for GFA. Are there not sites that
> >will allow free use of a bulletin board in return for the hit count? I'd
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
I'll bet that you give in and get GB32. You are just too curious. Didn't you
download the trial version? Oh, come on.
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> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Questions answered by GFA are at a cash cost already!  They joined MS when
> they got their own server(s).  Of little importance to me, tho - I don't
> recall ever getting much help except when I discovered my compiler didn't.
> One feller there tried, but his English held him back & I could seldom get
> him to understand what I needed.
>
> The list is my only source of help & 10-15 32-bit letters for each 16-bit
> is becoming tiresome as hell.  They *DO* have a list for their own.
>
> I feel like I've made a few contributions, so I'm not freeloading.  I'd
like
> to not have to spend 20 min deleting messages that can in no way be of any
> interest to me.  I already get a bit of SPAM - that's enough.  I quit AOL
> because of SPAM, I can chuck this whole damned thing if need be.  Perhaps
> *my* definition of SPAM should *not* include the 32-bit crap, but it does.
> It's useless to me, it's aggravating & resource-consuming.
> TomR.
>
>
>
> At 11:39 AM 05/11/99 -0500, you wrote:
> >List Member Micromiser Software <miser@cde.com> wrote:
> >>List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net>
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> >
> >>I agree whole heartedly!  I'm about ready to drop the list _&_ GFA-W(16)
> >>because there is more 32 traffic than 16.
> >>TomR.
> >
> >It's a problem for me too. I use these messages to form a searchable help
> >database. 32-bit stuff defeats that purpose and vice versa.
> >
> >16-bit support must now be unprofitable for GFA. Are there not sites that
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
At 03:21 PM 05/11/99 -0800, you wrote:
>List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
>I'll bet that you give in and get GB32. You are just too curious. Didn't you
>download the trial version? Oh, come on.
>Dale
>
>http://gfawhelp.gfa.net
>adbryant@msn.com
>adbryant@gfa.net

Dale
No, haven't downloaded it.  Haven't considered it.  Can't afford it.
If I was to go into learning VB of any version, it would be VB2, of 
which I am a registered but absolutely unsupported "user".  I have
all of what documentation MS put out on it & it's ALL in English.

*IF* I wanted to watch the GB32 discussions, I would subscribe to
that list, but since I'm not interested, I won't.  They will be
discussing issues that will in no way help with what I'm trying 
to learn.

I shan't send a bunch of GFA-W(16) questions & examples to othe GB32
list, so they shouldn't be sending GB32 discussions to the GFA-W(16) 
list.

I will NOT install a filter on my e-mail to shake out the GB32 trash -
if it boils down to that, I'll simply unsub & be done with the whole
thing.

I lost many somewhat (I thought) close friends when I moved on to
GFA-W(16).  I have few here to lose to the GB32 migration.  If it
proves necessary, I'll simply find something else to occupy my
time.  I'm flexible.
TomR.

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
At 06:01 PM 05/11/99 -0500, you wrote:
>List Member bdd <BrentDeck@compuserve.com> wrote:
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>>I'd like
>to not have to spend 20 min deleting messages that can in no way be of any
>interest to me.<
>
>Tom,
>
>Sorry, I'm probably the most recent culprit.  I posted a message on my
>experience with GB32
> that I thought would be of general interest.
>
>I'll be good.
>
>Best Regards,
>
>Brent

No sweat, Brent.  You haven't been pounding the subject into the ground
like others.  Perhaps a small part of my being perturbed is the knowledge
that all of this flows freely & I have had many questions & comments that
were GFA-W(16)-related but never got past the censure(s).
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List Member "Georg Veichtlbauer" <veichtlbauer@gmx.at> wrote:
Cool down, Tom.

I agree with you. Discussions about GB32 should NOT be done on the 16-Bit
list.
BUT: that's no reason to leave the "whole thing"!


Regards,
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Georg
That isn't the whole loaf of bread, I fear.  It *is* a nagging aggravation,
but with it are several more.  Roland dropped a bomb w/ using msvideo.dll
to compress images without giving the calls to do the compression & saving.
I've just logged about 32 hrs on the net trying to find the full set of calls 
& of several possible sources I found, all are dead ends.

Roland hasn't responded to several requests for the calls &/or the price for
his batch-compress routine which, I'm certain, will be in an *.exe, not code.

msvideo.dll certainly appears to be the way to go - I tried 50% quality & got
a file of about 25% of the original's size.  I figure that by using
nviewl16.dll,
there are several other formats possible since the *.dll presents a DIB to work
with.

I just downloaded the last websearch dead-ender I'm going to mess with.  If I 
hadn't located a free ISP w/ a number in Tulsa, I wouldn't have spent nearly
so much time searching.  msvideo.dll is microsoft's, but I'll be damned if I
can find even the *.dll on their crappy servers.  I have 5 or 6 memberships &
subscriptions w/ MS, but they never accept my usernames or passwords.

I've come up with several new things I could do IF I could get the package size
down.  msvideo.dll certainly would do that beautifully since it's bound to be on
any 486 & above because MM is a pretty standard installation now.

Roland & Sjouke BOTH come up with marvelous starters, but when I try to get past
the beginnings & add some more capability, I'm lost - neither one will
respond to
requests for info or help & I'm not yet really much of a programmer.

Coupled w/ medical & some personal problems, I've just about reached the end of
my string w/ this programming bit.  I'm getting nowhere fast.

The translation bit is dead from lack of aid - too much use of idiums & local
vernacular keep me from finding words & phrases that are suitable.  I've no idea
if anybody has even bothered to download the db I put online last week.  I'm
seriously thinking of killing all of the accounts I have online - I have 5
websites
of 10M to 20M that are getting little if any traffic.  They're free, but require
maintenance.

I'm just getting tired, I guess.  The damned ideas don't ever stop flowing, tho!
<G>
TomR.



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>List Member "Georg Veichtlbauer" <veichtlbauer@gmx.at> wrote:
>Cool down, Tom.
>
>I agree with you. Discussions about GB32 should NOT be done on the 16-Bit
>list.
>BUT: that's no reason to leave the "whole thing"!
>
>
>Regards,
> Georg
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List Member Engel Nobbe <bluez@celestial.demon.nl> wrote:
You are correct, yet I would like to reply politely by saying that the ot=
her
list, being dedicated to GFA32, would be more suitable than this one for =
GFA32
messages. A further polite remark would be the mentioning of the fact tha=
t
people would be able to subscribe to a specific list that interests them,
instead of having to download many messages that are not of interest to t=
hem.
Please do not forget that not all GFA users are using GFA32, some can't, =
some
won't, some only do. Not everyone has both versions. It's a matter of
politeness and nettiquette.

With kind regards, and sincerely yours etc. etc. etc.


"Schoenherr, Walter" wrote:

> List Member "Schoenherr, Walter" <Walter.Schoenherr@PZN-Wiesloch.de> wr=
ote:
> Filter the cool GB32 stuff out if u dont like it - Directly in the
> WastePaperBasket!
>
> Ab in die Drecksch=FCssel!
>
> -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Tom Record [mailto:tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net]
> Gesendet am: Freitag, 5. November 1999 12:39
> An: gfabasic@gfa.net
> Betreff: Re: [gfabasic] Ehm... could we please move GFA32 messages?
>
> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net>
> wrote:
> At 07:49 AM 05/11/99 +0100, you wrote:
> >List Member Engel Nobbe <bluez@celestial.demon.nl> wrote:
> >Chaps, there are two maillists, and wouldn't it be wise to move all
> GFA32
> >discussions to the other one? Please? So we can keep this area fixed o=
n
> >GFAwin16... and perhaps a little GFAdos :-)
> >
> >Thanks in advance...
> >
>
> I agree whole heartedly!  I'm about ready to drop the list _&_ GFA-W(16=
)
> because there is more 32 traffic than 16.
> TomR.
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
HI Tom,
I must agree with you on sending messages to the correct list. I think that
will come shortly as the users get more acclimated to having two list.  I am
sorry to hear that you won't even considering downloading the trial version.
You always ask such great questions.
Dale

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> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> At 03:21 PM 05/11/99 -0800, you wrote:
> >List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> >I'll bet that you give in and get GB32. You are just too curious. Didn't
you
> >download the trial version? Oh, come on.
> >Dale
> >
> >http://gfawhelp.gfa.net
> >adbryant@msn.com
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> Dale
> No, haven't downloaded it.  Haven't considered it.  Can't afford it.
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
did you get the demo?

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> List Member "Bev & Lou Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
> Funny ... I can't even find it.  Will someone please give me an address!!!
>
>                                                    ->Bev<--
>
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> > Yes it's available! I have tried to download it 6 times and each time it
> > tells me the file is corrupted, which is not surprising since each
> download
> > produces a different size file ( anything between 4 & 7 Mb.
> >
> > Over several years I have downloaded numerous files from sites around
the
> > world and this is the first time I have ever experienced this.
> >
> > Is anybody else having this problem ?
> >
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Tom,

I found this in my borland 4.5 cdrom.

It had no DOCs

Hope it is helpful.

Best Regards,

Brent.

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Brent
Thanks much!  It isn't all of it, but the video portion seems to be there.
Maybe I can figure out some of the DIB part from this.
Thanks!
<G>
TomR.



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>
>Brent.
>
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From: Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: [gfabasic] report - msvideo.dll
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
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Attached is a compressed (quality 65, Intel R3.2) shot of the
compressors available on my P-100.  You'll have to use Roland's
appl to view it.  The original *.bmp is 67.6K!

As is visible in the shot, #3 & #6 GPF all over the place.  They
bomb not only Roland's appl. they also bomb Windows & require a
reboot to clear.

Brent sent me a header file that *might* help me learn how to do
the compression & save - Thanks, Brent!  In all that I have, MSVC1,
WinSDK31, MFC2, VC6 & VC7, VB2, LayOut3, etc., NOTHING gives any 
hint how to call msvideo.dll.

32 hours of scraping around on the internet yielded nothing but dead
links & enormous disgust.  The majority of what I found on MS itself
was commentary on cUcME (& that isn't even theirs!).

I can now determine if a *.bmp has been compressed using one of these
compressors, but as yet, not which one or by what ratio.  I'm working 
on that now.

<G>
TomR.

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Subject: Re: [gfabasic] GFA32: Demo available
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List Member "Bev & Lou Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
Morning All:

Got it but not sure what to do with it <g>!

                                                   ->Bev<--


----- Original Message -----
From: Dale Bryant <adbryant@email.msn.com>
To: <gfabasic@gfa.net>
Sent: Saturday, November 06, 1999 11:41 AM
Subject: Re: [gfabasic] GFA32: Demo available


> List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> did you get the demo?
>
> http://gfawhelp.gfa.net
> adbryant@msn.com
> adbryant@gfa.net
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Bev & Lou Brown <bbrown1@ciaccess.com>
> To: <gfabasic@gfa.net>
> Sent: Thursday, October 28, 1999 11:48 PM
> Subject: Re: [gfabasic] GFA32: Demo available
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> > List Member "Bev & Lou Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
> > Funny ... I can't even find it.  Will someone please give me an
address!!!
> >
> >                                                    ->Bev<--
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: B.M.C.S. <bmcs@ozemail.com.au>
> > To: <gfabasic@gfa.net>
> > Sent: Friday, October 29, 1999 12:06 AM
> > Subject: RE: [gfabasic] GFA32: Demo available
> >
> >
> > > Yes it's available! I have tried to download it 6 times and each time
it
> > > tells me the file is corrupted, which is not surprising since each
> > download
> > > produces a different size file ( anything between 4 & 7 Mb.
> > >
> > > Over several years I have downloaded numerous files from sites around
> the
> > > world and this is the first time I have ever experienced this.
> > >
> > > Is anybody else having this problem ?
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > Dave Barton
> > >
> > >
> > >
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
SMTP: Simple Mail Testing Program

Legal: I am not responsible for anything to do with this program, source
code, or anything
about it!! You use it at your own risk!! But on the good side.. it's source
code so you
can see what it does!!

Credits: Craig Gill?? I believe he is the one that wrote the original
semi-working code
sample that I got, modified and made work. Thanks Craig (if that's who put
up the code)
for helping shove me in the right direction here!!

Use: The sample here was written/compiled using VB 5.0 Enterprise Edition
SP3, it SHOULD
work in any version of VB (you may need to cut and paste the code), but I
have only used
it in the above environment.


The code is actually pretty simple, it simply uses windows own Winsock to
send e-mail via
SMTP. It makes a connection via TCP on port 25 (If you don't understand what
TCP and port
25 is, you may consider brushing up on TCP/IP before using this, but it is
not a requirement)
and sends basically text to the SMTP mail server. This is what SMTP stands
for SIMPLE Mail
Transport Protocol.  I have tried as much as possible to self document the
code, so I will
not got into details here. Just look through it and see what you can do. 

Side effects: Well heck this is really a small simple little E-Mail program
good for sending
e-mail to any SMTP mail server. As long as the PC has the VB5 runtimes &
Winsock loaded this
should work with out any install programs. So it might be a handy tool to
have. Because the
scary part is with Wise 5.0 install this thing GROWS to 1.3MB (About
300-400K smaller than
the built in VB5 setup program maker).

What's next with this?? Well I may make it into an ActiveX control for
VB/C++ programmers 
that need an quick easy and FREE way to send e-mail from their programs. But
we'll see.

Questions, comments, Death threats, Marriage proposals: brian@worldcomputers.com

-Brian Anderson

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Subject: Re: [gfabasic] GFA32: Demo available
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List Member "Georg Veichtlbauer" <veichtlbauer@gmx.at> wrote:
Bev,
would you please post messages for GB32 on the other list?


Thank you,
 Georg

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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
I know what you will do with it. I have followed your work since the old
days of GBUG. How happy I was to find you there. You taught me so very much.
Dale

http://gfawhelp.gfa.net
adbryant@msn.com
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> List Member "Bev & Lou Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
> Morning All:
>
> Got it but not sure what to do with it <g>!
>
>                                                    ->Bev<--
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Dale Bryant <adbryant@email.msn.com>
> To: <gfabasic@gfa.net>
> Sent: Saturday, November 06, 1999 11:41 AM
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> > List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> > did you get the demo?
> >
> > http://gfawhelp.gfa.net
> > adbryant@msn.com
> > adbryant@gfa.net
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Bev & Lou Brown <bbrown1@ciaccess.com>
> > To: <gfabasic@gfa.net>
> > Sent: Thursday, October 28, 1999 11:48 PM
> > Subject: Re: [gfabasic] GFA32: Demo available
> >
> >
> > > List Member "Bev & Lou Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
> > > Funny ... I can't even find it.  Will someone please give me an
> address!!!
> > >
> > >                                                    ->Bev<--
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: B.M.C.S. <bmcs@ozemail.com.au>
> > > To: <gfabasic@gfa.net>
> > > Sent: Friday, October 29, 1999 12:06 AM
> > > Subject: RE: [gfabasic] GFA32: Demo available
> > >
> > >
> > > > Yes it's available! I have tried to download it 6 times and each
time
> it
> > > > tells me the file is corrupted, which is not surprising since each
> > > download
> > > > produces a different size file ( anything between 4 & 7 Mb.
> > > >
> > > > Over several years I have downloaded numerous files from sites
around
> > the
> > > > world and this is the first time I have ever experienced this.
> > > >
> > > > Is anybody else having this problem ?
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > > Dave Barton
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List Member "Roland Walter" <roland@rowalt.de> wrote:
> Attached is a compressed (quality 65, Intel R3.2) shot of the
> compressors available on my P-100.  You'll have to use Roland's
> appl to view it.  The original *.bmp is 67.6K!
> 
> As is visible in the shot, #3 & #6 GPF all over the place.  They
> bomb not only Roland's appl. they also bomb Windows & require a
> reboot to clear.

I knw then one version of an Intel codec has a bug, but I don't
remember which one. The same crash You described I had. It comes
while executing one of the decompression functions and I did
not find a clean way to determine it before...
The only I can say momently is not to use a compression which
has crashed 3 times before. This is a crazy advice I know, but
what shall I say :-((((((

> Brent sent me a header file that *might* help me learn how to do
> the compression & save - Thanks, Brent!  In all that I have, MSVC1,
> WinSDK31, MFC2, VC6 & VC7, VB2, LayOut3, etc., NOTHING gives any 
> hint how to call msvideo.dll.
> 
> 32 hours of scraping around on the internet yielded nothing but dead
> links & enormous disgust.  The majority of what I found on MS itself
> was commentary on cUcME (& that isn't even theirs!).

Don't search longer. If some people are interested I would put the
most important part of the MS video SDK at my homepage (hidden) and
tell You the link address. Would this be O.K.?

By, Roland
(coming back from weekend)
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Exported non-resident functions of MSVIDEO.DLL:

_ICCOMPRESS             224    
   ????????????????????
_ICDECOMPRESS           230
   ????????????????????
_ICDRAW                 234        
   ????????????????????
_ICDRAWBEGIN            232
   ????????????????????
_ICMESSAGE              207
   ????????????????????
_MCIWNDCREATE	250
_MCIWNDREGISTERCLASS	251
DRAWDIBBEGIN	104
DRAWDIBCHANGEPALETTE	111
DRAWDIBCLOSE	103
  DECL BYTE DrawDibClose(W)
  ~@@DrawDibClose(hDCdd&) 'free the DrawDib DC and de-init

DRAWDIBDRAW	106
  DECL BYTE DrawDibDraw(W,W,W,W,W,W,L,L,W,W,W,W,W)
  ~@@DrawDibDraw(hDCdd&,_DC(1),0,0,-1,-1,lpMem%,_
    lpBitmapBits%,0,0,{lpMem%}.biWidth,{lpMem%}.biHeight,0)

DRAWDIBEND	105
DRAWDIBGETBUFFER	120
DRAWDIBGETPALETTE	108
DRAWDIBOPEN	102
  DECL WORD DrawDibOpen()
  hDCdd& = @@DrawDibOpen()  'Init DrawDib function(s),_
     get DrawDib DC handle

DRAWDIBPROFILEDISPLAY	114
DRAWDIBREALIZE	112
DRAWDIBSETPALETTE	110
DRAWDIBSTART	118
DRAWDIBSTOP	119
DRAWDIBTIME	113
GETOPENFILENAMEPREVIEW	252
GETSAVEFILENAMEPREVIEW	253
ICCLOSE                 204
   ????????????????????
ICCOMPRESSORCHOOSE      242
   ????????????????????
ICCOMPRESSORFREE        243
   ????????????????????
ICGETDISPLAYFORMAT	239
ICGETINFO	212
ICIMAGECOMPRESS         240
   ????????????????????
ICIMAGEDECOMPRESS       241
   ????????????????????
ICINFO	200
ICINSTALL	201
ICLOCATE	213
ICOPEN	203
ICOPENFUNCTION	206
ICREMOVE	202
ICSENDMESSAGE	205
ICSEQCOMPRESSFRAME	246
ICSEQCOMPRESSFRAMEEND	245
ICSEQCOMPRESSFRAMESTART	244
Microsoft Video For Windows APIs	0
STRETCHDIB	115
VIDEOCAPDRIVERDESCANDVER	22
VIDEOCLOSE	29
VIDEOCONFIGURE	32
VIDEOCONFIGURESTORAGE	33
VIDEODIALOG	30
VIDEOFORWINDOWSVERSION	2
VIDEOFRAME	31
VIDEOGETCHANNELCAPS	34
VIDEOGETERRORTEXT	21
VIDEOGETNUMDEVS	20
VIDEOMESSAGE	60
VIDEOOPEN	28
VIDEOSTREAMADDBUFFER	40
VIDEOSTREAMALLOCHDRANDBUFFER	52
VIDEOSTREAMFINI	41
VIDEOSTREAMFREEHDRANDBUFFER	53
VIDEOSTREAMGETERROR	42
VIDEOSTREAMGETPOSITION	43
VIDEOSTREAMINIT	44
VIDEOSTREAMPREPAREHEADER	46
VIDEOSTREAMRESET	47
VIDEOSTREAMSTART	49
VIDEOSTREAMSTOP	50
VIDEOSTREAMUNPREPAREHEADER	51
VIDEOUPDATE	35

Exported resident functions of MSVIDEO.DLL:

DLLENTRYPOINT	3
LS_THUNKDATA16	5
MSVIDEO	0
SL_THUNKDATA16	4
WEP	1

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Roland

Please - I'm on my knees begging!

The calls & declarations, or the source for the example given
the other day.  Others may be interested in working w/ *.avi,
but my interest is compressing & saving the bitmaps.

Must I come to Germany & pull each hair from your head one by
one?  What do you want in return?  Money?  How much?

PLEASE!
TomR.

Roland

Bitte - Ich ben um mein knies bittenfang!

 benennst & angaben, oder  born f=FCr  beispiel given
 anderer tag.  Andere mai sich interessieren im arbeit w/ *.avi,
ausgenommen mein interessieren ist compressing & abspeichern  bitmaps.

M=FCssen ICH entspringen an Deutschland & anziehen jede haar als dein f=FChr=
en
ein an
ein?  Was anfertigen du/sie bedarf im vergelten?  Geld?  Wieso viel?

BITTE!
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>
>I knw then one version of an Intel codec has a bug, but I don't
>remember which one. The same crash You described I had. It comes
>while executing one of the decompression functions and I did
>not find a clean way to determine it before...
>The only I can say momently is not to use a compression which
>has crashed 3 times before. This is a crazy advice I know, but
>what shall I say :-((((((
>
+++ There appears to be at least 2 codecs with bugs.  One is Intel,
the other is MS (& it is 32-bit!).  Both crashed & took Windows
with them, 3 or 4 times each!  They are tagged in that image I posted.
I thought it was something *I* was doing wrong.
>
>Don't search longer. If some people are interested I would put the
>most important part of the MS video SDK at my homepage (hidden) and
>tell You the link address. Would this be O.K.?
>
+++ As you wish.  Thanks you very much!  All that I found in >40 hrs,
even on the SDK was a discussion about cUcME!  John & Eberhard have
forced me to begin trying to learn how to handle DIBs & memory, so
this bit will really widen my capability (I sincerely hope!).
>
>By, Roland
>(coming back from weekend)
>
Thank you, Roland!  Please, do NOT continue dropping such bombs &
then going offline for 2 or 3 days.  I have pulled out most of my
hair & have developed an ulcer of the stomach.  Joke!  Almost.
<G>
TomR.

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http://www.gfasoft.gfa.net/de/tools.htm


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Hi!

I'm sorry, my last mail should have been posted to the GB32 list...


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List Member bdd <BrentDeck@compuserve.com> wrote:
Not necessarily a GFA question, but:

=46rom WIN3.1 or WIN95, when starting a 16 color dos box,
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so that I'm not stuck with the 16 default colors?

I have GFA for DOS which I can use, if necessary.

Curious,

Brent
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List Member Wolfgang Schindler <w.schindler@josefstal.de> wrote:
Hi Tom!

> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wro=
te:
> SMTP: Simple Mail Testing Program
....
> Use: The sample here was written/compiled using VB 5.0 Enterprise Editi=
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Your offer seems to be very interesting for me, but I'm using ony
gfa-w16. Is there a way to use your codelines with that language too?
=20
(By the way: Please stay with us in this list-I'd miss you.)


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List Member "Roland Walter" <roland@rowalt.de> wrote:
I have put the Video for Windows 1.1
documentation + header files at the
following address for download:

http://userpage.fu-berlin.de/~alibaba/vfw.zip

The file has a size of about 1MB and
does NOT contain the complete SDK
but all information You need for
access of video functions with GFA Basic.
After 2 weeks I will delete the file
so that You should download it immediately.
Bye, Roland

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List Member Jim Pennington <Jim@x-act.net> wrote:
What is the easiest way to determine the character and line spacing for text
output? Also, isn't there a function which returns the length (in pixels) of a
text string based on the current font? I seem to recall one, but can't remember
it, nor can I find it. Maybe I'm thinking of the Atari?

What is the difference between RFONT HEIGHT/WIDTH and WIND_GET (14/20)? They
return the same numbers respectively for OEM_FIXED_FONT and SYSTEM_FIXED_FONT,
but not for ANSI_FIXED_FONT. What is the significance of character width with
proportional fonts?

All I'm trying to do here is translate row and column numbers to pixel positions
for various fixed fonts and screen resolutions.

Thanks in advance,

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
09/11/99 02:36:59 PM
2 routines here - many more to choose from...

***************************************************
/* something Brent & I played with
OPENW #1
FULLW #1
DO
LOOP WHILE _Mess

syppi& = GETDEVCAPS(90) // get vertical pixels/inch
sxppi& = GETDEVCAPS(88) // get horizntl pixels/inch

DLG PRINT WIN(1),PD_ALLPAGES,dc&
copies = _DX '    Manual says _EX but interpretor won't accept!
DLG FONT 1,dc&,CF_BOTH | CF_EFFECTS,0,0,0,""
points = _DX
FILESELECT #"Select file to print...","*.*","",np$

DIM printer_x_y&(1)
SETDC dc&
~Escape(dc&,GETPHYSPAGESIZE,0,0,V:printer_x_y&(0))

height& = @Set_A_Font(pfont&)  // get printer chr height and set font
FOR CoPs = 1 TO copies // put in a variable to  preserve
  STARTDOC "CHARTEST"  // this syntax is not documented in gfa , where did
you find it ? ***
  SETFONT pfont&  // do not call set_a_font() again unless you erase the old
font
  @Stampa()
  ENDDOC
NEXT CoPs

SETDC _DC(1)
SETFONT OEM_FIXED_FONT
FREEFONT pfont&
FREEDC dc&
CLOSEW #1
END


PROCEDURE Stampa()
  l% = 0
  OPEN "i", #1, np$
  WHILE NOT EOF(#1)
    LINE INPUT #1, caz$
    l% += height&
    TEXT 0,l%,STR$(height&) + "  " + STR$(points) + caz$  // verify hieght
note that height changes on every run !!!!
    IF l% + height& * 2 >= printer_x_y&(1) THEN  // choose your own limit
      l% = 0
      NEW FRAME
    ENDIF
  WEND
  NEW FRAME
  CLOSE #1
RETURN


FUNCTION Set_A_Font(VAR printfont&)
  RFONT  WIDTH sw&,HEIGHT sh&   // initial screen values  ****************
  // NOTE sw& & sh& are negative !!!!!  I dunno why
  pyppi& = GETDEVCAPS(90) // get printer vertical pixels/inch
  pxppi& = GETDEVCAPS(88) // get printer vertical pixels/inch
  pntsperinch = 500  // what is the correct value?
  // Heres a way to set height and width of chars on printer if you know the
size on screen
  // The vertical setting is exact (if you know the correct value of
pntsperinch)
  // The printer horizontal is approximated based on the ratio of vert to
horizntl screen size.
  ph& = pyppi& * points / pntsperinch  // calculate pixel heigt of chars
  pw& = ph& * sw& / sh& * syppi& / sxppi& * pxppi& / pyppi&  // calculate
pixel width of chars
  // GFA has a single font buffer, which it uses for all font settings, so
once the
  // DLG FONT is called, the buffer is populated and callable with RFONT.
  // You need only set the values that are not set by DLG FONT ( If any )
before saving the
  // values to the new font handle
  // I havent checked this out, so just in case , I set these values:
  FONT CLIPPRECISION 0
  FONT OUTPRECISION 0
  FONT QUALITY 0, PITCH 0
  FONT ORIENTATION 0, ESCAPEMENT 0
  FONT WIDTH pw&, HEIGHT ph&,
  FONT TO printfont&
  RETURN ph&
ENDFUNC

***********************************************
/* something I took a little beyond the orig example
OPENW #1,0,0,_X,_Y,%11110000
TITLEW #1,"KanFont"
PRINT "looking for fonts..."
DIM fn$(600)
DIM fd$(600)
DIM ff|(600)
DIM fp|(600)
DIM fcs|(600)
DIM fi%(600)
DIM fw%(600)
FOR cnt = 0 TO 600
  fi%(cnt) = cnt
NEXT cnt
_CB (1) = fontproc(l,l,w,l)
any$ = HEX$(_CB(1))
any = EnumFonts(_DC(1),0,_CB(1),$12345678)
QSORT fn$(),fc ,fi%()
GOSUB sfonts
a% = MB_YESNO | MB_ICONSTOP
a$ = "Do you want to output pages to the printer?"
b$ = "KanFont"
MESSAGE a$,b$,a%,n&
IF n& = IDYES
  pfonts
  BEEP
ENDIF
CLOSEW #1
END


PROCEDURE fontproc(plf%,ptm%,ftyp&,ldat%)
  LOCAL a$
  fn$ = CHAR{plf% + 18}
  a$ = fn$ + " " + DEC$(INT{plf%}) + "*" + DEC$(INT{plf% + 2}) + " "
  fw%(fc) = INT{plf% + 8}
  SWITCH INT{plf% + 8}
  CASE FW_NORMAL
    a$ = a$ + "Normal "
  CASE FW_MEDIUM
    a$ = a$ + "Medium "
  CASE FW_SEMIBOLD
    a$ = a$ + "SemiBold "
  CASE FW_BOLD
    a$ = a$ + "Bold "
  DEFAULT
    a$ = a$ + "weight(" + DEC$(INT{plf% + 8}) + ") "
  ENDSELECT
  IF BYTE{plf% + 10} THEN a$ = a$ + "Italic "
  IF BYTE{plf% + 11} THEN a$ = a$ + "Underlined "
  IF BYTE{plf% + 12} THEN a$ = a$ + "Strikeout "
  fcs|(fc) = BYTE{plf% + 13}
  SWITCH BYTE{plf% + 13}
  CASE ANSI_CHARSET
    a$ = a$ + "Ansi "
  CASE OEM_CHARSET
    a$ = a$ + "OEM "
  CASE SYMBOL_CHARSET
    a$ = a$ + "Symbol "
  DEFAULT
    a$ = a$ + "Charset(" + DEC$(BYTE{plf% + 13}) + ") "
  ENDSELECT
  SWITCH BYTE{plf% + 16}
  CASE DEFAULT_QUALITY
    a$ = a$ + "DefQual "
  CASE DRAFT_QUALITY
    a$ = a$ + "Draft "
  CASE PROOF_QUALITY
    a$ = a$ + "Proof "
  DEFAULT
    a$ = a$ + "Quality(" + DEC$(BYTE{plf% + 16}) + ") "
  ENDSELECT
  fp|(fc) = BYTE{plf% + 17} & 15
  SWITCH BYTE{plf% + 17} & 15
  CASE DEFAULT_PITCH
  CASE VARIABLE_PITCH
  CASE FIXED_PITCH
    a$ = a$ + "Fixed "
  DEFAULT
    a$ = a$ + "Pitch(" + DEC$(BYTE{plf% + 17} & 15) + ") "
  ENDSELECT
  fontfam| = BYTE{plf% + 17} & $f0
  SWITCH BYTE{plf% + 17} & $f0
  CASE FF_DECORATIVE
    a$ = a$ + "Decorative"
  CASE FF_DONTCARE
    a$ = a$ + "DontCare"
  CASE FF_MODERN
    a$ = a$ + "Modern"
  CASE FF_ROMAN
    a$ = a$ + "Roman"
  CASE FF_SCRIPT
    a$ = a$ + "Script"
  CASE FF_SWISS
    a$ = a$ + "Swiss"
  DEFAULT
    a$ = a$ + "Family(" + DEC$(BYTE{plf% + 17} & $f0) + ")"
  ENDSELECT
  fn$(fc) = fn$
  fd$(fc) = a$
  ff|(fc) = fontfam|
  INC fc
  RETVAL 1
RETURN


PROCEDURE sfonts
  CLS
  p& = 0
  SETDC _DC(1)
  px% = GETDEVCAPS(HORZSIZE) / 25.4
  py% = GETDEVCAPS(VERTSIZE) / 25.4
  ppix& = GETDEVCAPS(LOGPIXELSX)
  ppiy& = GETDEVCAPS(LOGPIXELSY)
  np& = _Y - 20
  pw& = _X - 20
  hp& = pw& / 2
  point& = 1
  test$ = "AbcDefGhiKlmNOpqrSTuvw0123456789!@#$%^&}{][|=\QWERTYUIOPASDFGH"
  test2$ = "ItalicBCdefgHjkmnoPQR6789AbcDEFGh012345*&^$%#)(}{][ASDFGHJKL:"
  GOSUB drawfonts
RETURN


PROCEDURE pfonts
  CLS
  PRINT "select printer"
  DLG PRINT 1,0,p&
  IF p&
    CLS
    PRINT "printing sheet, please wait ..."
    SETDC p&
    px% = GETDEVCAPS(HORZSIZE) / 25.4
    py% = GETDEVCAPS(VERTSIZE) / 25.4
    ppix& = GETDEVCAPS(LOGPIXELSX)
    ppiy& = GETDEVCAPS(LOGPIXELSY)
    np& = (py% * ppiy&) - ppiy& / 2
    pw& = (px% * ppix&)
    hp& = pw& / 2
    point& = ppix& / 72
    ~Escape(p&,STARTDOC,4,"TEST",0)
    test$ = "AbcDefGhiKlmNOpqrSTuvw0123456789!@#$%^&}{][|=\QWERTYUIOPASDFGH"
    test2$ = "ItalicBCdefgHjkmnoPQR6789AbcDEFGh012345*&^$%#)(}{][ASDFGHJKL:"
    GOSUB drawfonts  // output a page (this takes a while)
    ~Escape(p&,NEWFRAME,0,0,0)
    ~Escape(p&,ENDDOC,0,0 ,0)  // Hi printer manager, I'm done
    SETDC _DC(1)  // restore DC
    FREEDC p&  // release printer DC
  ELSE
    PRINT "printer not found"  // and the fonts
    STOP
  ENDIF
RETURN


PROCEDURE drawfonts
  ypos = 10
  FOR cnt = 0 TO fc - 1
    FONT "arial",UNDERLINE 1,WEIGHT FW_NORMAL,FAMILY FF_SWISS,HEIGHT 10 *
point&,ITALIC 0 TO fnt1&
    FONT "arial",UNDERLINE 0,WEIGHT FW_NORMAL,FAMILY FF_SWISS,HEIGHT 10 *
point&,ITALIC 0 TO fnt2&
    fn$ = fn$(cnt) + CHR$(0)
    addr_fontname% = V:fn$
    fw& = fw%(fi%(cnt))
    fp| = fp|(fi%(cnt))
    fcs| = fcs|(fi%(cnt))
    fontfam| = ff|(fi%(cnt))
    typ| = fontfam| OR fp|
    IF fontfam% = 0 THEN fontfam% = -1
    fd$ = fd$(fi%(cnt))
    fnt& = CreateFont(24 *
point&,0,0,0,0,0,0,sout|,fcs|,outp|,clip|,charp|,typ|,addr_fontname%)
    fnt3& = CreateFont(24 *
point&,0,0,0,800,1,0,sout|,fcs|,outp|,clip|,charp|,typ|,addr_fontname%)
    SETFONT fnt1&
    TEXT 10,ypos,SPACE$(80)
    ADD ypos,10 * point&
    TEXT 10,ypos,fn$
    SETFONT fnt2&
    TEXT 40 + TXTLEN(fn$),ypos,fd$
    ADD ypos,10 * point&
    SETFONT fnt&
    any = 1
    REPEAT
      any$ = LEFT$(test$,any)
      l = TXTLEN(any$)
      INC any
    UNTIL l > hp& OR any = LEN(test$)
    any$ = LEFT$(test$,any - 3)
    TEXT 10,ypos,any$
    SETFONT fnt3&
    any = 1
    REPEAT
      any$ = LEFT$(test2$,any)
      l = TXTLEN(any$)
      INC any
    UNTIL l > hp& OR any = LEN(test2$)
    any$ = LEFT$(test2$,any - 1)
    TEXT hp&,ypos,any$
    ADD ypos,24 * point&
    FREEFONT fnt&
    FREEFONT fnt3&
    FREEFONT fnt2&
    FREEFONT fnt1&
    IF ypos > np& AND cnt <> fc - 1
      IF p&
        ~Escape(p&,NEWFRAME,0,0,0)
        ~Escape(p&,ENDDOC,0,0 ,0)
        INC pc&
        ~Escape(p&,STARTDOC,4,"TEST" + STR$(pc&),0)
      ELSE
        REPEAT
          KEYTEST any
        UNTIL any OR MOUSEK
        CLS
      ENDIF
      ypos = 10
    ENDIF
  NEXT cnt
  SETFONT OEM_FIXED_FONT
RETURN

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
' maybe3f.lst  from Printinf.lst by J.R. Musselman
' modified by TomR. to query & use the printer's printable area
TITLEW #1, "  Will self-close."
OPENW #1,0,0,_X ,_Y,48
PRINT " maybe3f.lst  from Printinf.lst by J.R. Musselman"
PRINT " modified by TomR. to query & use the printer's printable area"
PRINT " will print multi-page docs in font & size selected.  back to wrap!"
PrtInit  //include this line first.
@Get_Info()
IF @PrtJobStart THEN
  DO UNTIL EOF(#10)
    LINE INPUT #10,brp$
    PrtLine(0,brp$,TRUE)
  LOOP
ENDIF
PrtJobEnd
CLOSE #10
CLOSEW #1
END


PROCEDURE PrtInit
  FILESELECT #"Print","",".txt",finame$  //  bring in finame$ from program!
  OPEN "i",#10,finame$
  PrtJobName$ = finame$
  PrtLn& = 0  //used internally by printer routines
  PrtPg& = 0  //used internally by printer routines
RETURN


PROCEDURE PrtLine(Indent,lnout$,AddLineFeed!)  ' ' Lnout$
  IF lnout$ <> "" THEN
    IF Indent >= 0 THEN
      TEXT Indent * PrtDPI&,@PrtRow(PrtLn&),lnout$
    ELSE IF Indent = -1
      TEXT (cxmax& - TXTLEN(lnout$)) / 2,@PrtRow(PrtLn&),lnout$
    ELSE IF Indent = -2
      TEXT cxmax& - TXTLEN(lnout$) - PrtDPI& * .5,@PrtRow(PrtLn&),lnout$
    ENDIF
  ENDIF
  IF AddLineFeed! THEN
    PrtLn& ++
    IF PrtLn& * PrtCharh& => cymax& THEN
      PrtJobNewPage
    ENDIF
  ENDIF
RETURN


FUNCTION PrtRow(PrtLn&)
  RETURN (PrtLn& - 1) * PrtCharh&
ENDFUNC


FUNCTION PrtJobStart
  LOCAL Setup&,w&,h&,italic&,underline&,strikeout&
  LOCAL
charset&,clipprecision&,quality&,pitch&,family&,weight&,orientation&,escapem
,ent&
  PrtPg& = 0        //Global variable to indicate the current page number
  PrtLn& = 0        //Global variable to indicate current line number on a page
  DEFMOUSE 2      //Hour glass debug- not working
  GETEVENT
  PrtDPI& = GetDeviceCaps(prtdc&,LOGPIXELSX)
  cxmax& = GetDeviceCaps(prtdc&,HORZRES)
  cymax& = GetDeviceCaps(prtdc&,VERTRES)

  IF _AX = 0 THEN RETURN 0
  DLG FONT 1,prtdc&,CF_PRINTERFONTS,0,0,0,""
  IF _AX = 0 THEN RETURN 0
  SETDC prtdc&
  RFONT  WIDTH w&,HEIGHT h&
  '  Use the printer's actual print area, NOT the whole page (TomR.)
  PrtCharw& = w& * cxmax& / 800
  PrtCharh& = ABS(h& * cymax& / 800)
  RFONT ITALIC italic&
  RFONT UNDERLINE underline&
  RFONT STRIKEOUT strikeout&
  RFONT CHARSET charset&
  RFONT CLIPPRECISION clipprecision&
  RFONT QUALITY quality&
  RFONT PITCH pitch&
  RFONT FAMILY family&
  RFONT WEIGHT weight&
  RFONT ORIENTATION orientation&
  RFONT ESCAPEMENT escapement&
  FONT ITALIC italic&, UNDERLINE underline&, STRIKEOUT strikeout&
  FONT CHARSET charset&, CLIPPRECISION clipprecision&, QUALITY quality&
  FONT QUALITY quality&, PITCH pitch&, FAMILY family&, WEIGHT weight&
  FONT WIDTH PrtCharw&, HEIGHT PrtCharh&, ORIENTATION
orientation&,ESCAPEMENT escapement&
  FONT TO PrtFont&
  STARTDOC PrtJobName$
  SETFONT PrtFont&
  PrtJobNewPage
  RETURN TRUE
ENDFUNC


PROCEDURE PrtJobNewPage
  LOCAL ii,d$
  IF PrtLn& THEN
    NEW FRAME
  ENDIF
  SETFONT PrtFont&
  PrtLn& = 1
  PrtPg& ++
  mt$ = @tim$() + " on " + @get_date$()
  PrtLine(0,mt$,FALSE)
  PrtLine(-1,PrtJobName$,FALSE)
  PrtLine(-2,"Page " + STR$(PrtPg&),TRUE)
  PrtLine(0,"",TRUE)  //blankLine
RETURN


PROCEDURE PrtJobEnd
  FREEFONT PrtFont&
  NEW FRAME
  ENDDOC
  SETDC _DC(1)
  FREEDC prtdc&
  DEFMOUSE 0      //normal pointer
RETURN


PROCEDURE Get_Info()
  DLG PRINT WIN(1),PD_ALLPAGES,prtdc&
RETURN


FUNCTION get_date$()
  LOCAL temp$,ctr%,i%
  LOCAL mon$="JanFebMarAprMayJunJulAugSepOctNovDec"
  LOCAL day$="SunMonTueWedThuFriSat"
  ~INTR($21,_AH = $2A)
  temp$ = MID$(day$,3 * _AL + 1,3) + ", " + STR$(_DL) + " " + MID$(mon$,3 *
_DH - 2,3)
  temp$ = temp$ + " " + STR$(_CX)
  RETURN temp$
ENDFUNC


FUNCTION tim$()
  tm$ = TIME$
  IF VAL(LEFT$(tm$,2)) =< 12 THEN
    tm$ = tm$ + " a.m."
  ENDIF
  IF VAL(LEFT$(tm$,2)) > 12 THEN
    tm1 = VAL(LEFT$(tm$,2)) - 12
    tm1$ = STR$(tm1),tm2$ = RIGHT$(tm$,6)
    tm$ = tm1$ + tm2$ + " p.m."
  ENDIF
  RETURN tm$
ENDFUNC

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List Member Engel Nobbe <bluez@celestial.demon.nl> wrote:
Ehm... I would like to have a sample, but where to obtain it?


Tom Record wrote:

> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> SMTP: Simple Mail Testing Program
>
> Legal: I am not responsible for anything to do with this program, source
> code, or anything
> about it!! You use it at your own risk!! But on the good side.. it's source
> code so you
> can see what it does!!
>
> Credits: Craig Gill?? I believe he is the one that wrote the original
> semi-working code
> sample that I got, modified and made work. Thanks Craig (if that's who put
> up the code)
> for helping shove me in the right direction here!!
>
> Use: The sample here was written/compiled using VB 5.0 Enterprise Edition
> SP3, it SHOULD
> work in any version of VB (you may need to cut and paste the code), but I
> have only used
> it in the above environment.
>
> The code is actually pretty simple, it simply uses windows own Winsock to
> send e-mail via
> SMTP. It makes a connection via TCP on port 25 (If you don't understand what
> TCP and port
> 25 is, you may consider brushing up on TCP/IP before using this, but it is
> not a requirement)
> and sends basically text to the SMTP mail server. This is what SMTP stands
> for SIMPLE Mail
> Transport Protocol.  I have tried as much as possible to self document the
> code, so I will
> not got into details here. Just look through it and see what you can do.
>
> Side effects: Well heck this is really a small simple little E-Mail program
> good for sending
> e-mail to any SMTP mail server. As long as the PC has the VB5 runtimes &
> Winsock loaded this
> should work with out any install programs. So it might be a handy tool to
> have. Because the
> scary part is with Wise 5.0 install this thing GROWS to 1.3MB (About
> 300-400K smaller than
> the built in VB5 setup program maker).
>
> What's next with this?? Well I may make it into an ActiveX control for
> VB/C++ programmers
> that need an quick easy and FREE way to send e-mail from their programs. But
> we'll see.
>
> Questions, comments, Death threats, Marriage proposals: brian@worldcomputers.com
>
> -Brian Anderson
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Watch for linewraps, 3 I think, toward the bottom (lcase on left margin).
Eberhard improved this for me some time ago.
Getting Roland's bitmapex.exe allowed me to identify the Codec-compressed
images.
I've embellished this somewhat, is now time to share with all.
Use as you wish.
TomR.
******************** cut here ***********************
'  bmph26b.lst  bitmaph() with embelishments
cx& = GETDEVCAPS(HORZRES)
cy& = GETDEVCAPS(VERTRES)
dv&  = _DRIVE
dr$ = DIR$(0)
'
TYPE BITMAPFILEHEADER:  /* bmfh */
- WORD    bfType
- DWORD   bfSize
- WORD    bfReserved1
- WORD    bfReserved2
- DWORD   bfOffBits
ENDTYPE
DIM BITMAPFILEHEADER: bmfh.
'
TYPE BITMAPINFOHEADER:   /* bmih */
- DWORD  biSize
- LONG   biWidth
- LONG   biHeight
- WORD   biPlanes
- WORD   biBitCount
- DWORD  biCompression
- DWORD  biSizeImage
- LONG   biXPelsPerMeter
- LONG   biYPelsPerMeter
- DWORD  biClrUsed
- DWORD  biClrImportant
ENDTYPE
DIM BITMAPINFOHEADER: bmih.
'
TITLEW #1, "bitmaph(), bitmap file info retrieval."
OPENW #1, 0,0,cx&,cy&,16
PeTe:
file$ = ""
CLS
FILESELECT #"Bitmap","*.bmp","",file$
IF file$ = "" THEN GOTO Thats_It

OPEN "i", #1, file$
BGET #1, *bmfh., LEN (bmfh.)
BGET #1, *bmih., LEN (bmih.)
CLOSE #1
'
CHDRIVE dv&
CHDIR dr$

PRINT " File: ";file$
PRINT " BitmapFileHeader   ";
PRINT " Bitmap Type: ";MKI$(bmfh.bfType)
PRINT " Saved File Size: ";
PRINT USING "#,###,###",bmfh.bfSize;
PRINT " bytes  (or";
PRINT USING "#######.##",bmfh.bfSize / 1024;
PRINT " Kb)"
PRINT " Data Offset (bmfh. + bmih.): ";bmfh.bfOffBits;" bytes"
PRINT
PRINT " BitmapInfoHeader    Size: ";bmih.biSize;" bytes"
PRINT " Image Width: ";bmih.biWidth;" pixels"
PRINT " Image Height: ";bmih.biHeight;" pixels"
PRINT " Planes: ";bmih.biPlanes
PRINT " Color depth (the only reliable color indicator): ";bmih.biBitCount;
PRINT "-bit or ";
PRINT USING "##,###,###,###",2 ^ bmih.biBitCount;
PRINT " colors"
IF bmih.biCompression = 0 THEN
  IsIt1$ = "RGB, "
  IsIt2$ = "not compressed"
  IsIt3$ = ", 1 to 24-bit color"
ENDIF
IF bmih.biCompression = 1 THEN
  IsIt1$ = "RLE-8, "
  IsIt2$ = "compressed"
  IsIt3$ = ", % is another discussion!"
ENDIF
IF bmih.biCompression = 2 THEN
  IsIt1$ = "RLE-4, "
  IsIt2$ = "compressed"
  IsIt3$ = " % is another discussion!"
ENDIF
IF bmih.biCompression = 3 THEN
  IsIt1$ = "BI_BITFIELDS, "
  IsIt2$ = "not compressed"
  IsIt3$ = ", 32-bit color"
ENDIF
IF bmih.biCompression = 0 OR bmih.biCompression = 3 THEN
  PRINT " Compression : ";IsIt1$;
  COLOR GETNEAREST(0,0,255),GETNEAREST(255,255,255)
  PRINT IsIt2$;
  COLOR GETNEAREST(0,0,0),GETNEAREST(255,255,255)
  PRINT IsIt3$
ENDIF
IF bmih.biCompression = 1 OR bmih.biCompression = 2 THEN
  PRINT " Compression : ";IsIt1$;
  COLOR GETNEAREST(250,255,100),GETNEAREST(255,255,255)
  PRINT IsIt2$;
  COLOR GETNEAREST(0,0,0),GETNEAREST(255,255,255)
  PRINT IsIt3$
ENDIF
IF bmih.biCompression = 1684633187 THEN
  PRINT " Compression : ";
  COLOR GETNEAREST(0,200,55),GETNEAREST(255,255,255)
  IsIt1$ = "Compressed by Cinepak (iccvid.dll)"
  PRINT IsIt1$;
  IsIt2$ = ", value unknown, 24-bit color."
  COLOR GETNEAREST(0,0,0),GETNEAREST(255,255,255)
  PRINT IsIt2$
ENDIF
IF bmih.biCompression = 842225225 THEN
  PRINT " Compression : ";
  COLOR GETNEAREST(0,200,55),GETNEAREST(255,255,255)
  IsIt1$ = "Compressed by Intel R3.2 (ir32_32.dll)"
  PRINT IsIt1$;
  IsIt2$ = ", value unknown, 24-bit color."
  COLOR GETNEAREST(0,0,0),GETNEAREST(255,255,255)
  PRINT IsIt2$
ENDIF
IF bmih.biCompression = 808801865 THEN
  PRINT " Compression : ";
  COLOR GETNEAREST(0,200,55),GETNEAREST(255,255,255)
  IsIt1$ = "Compressed by Intel 5.06 (ir50_32.dll)"
  PRINT IsIt1$;
  IsIt2$ = ", value unknown, 24-bit color."
  COLOR GETNEAREST(0,0,0),GETNEAREST(255,255,255)
  PRINT IsIt2$
ENDIF
IF bmih.biCompression = 825513545 THEN
  PRINT " Compression : ";
  COLOR GETNEAREST(0,200,55),GETNEAREST(255,255,255)
  IsIt1$ = "Compressed by Intel 4.4 (ir41_32.ax)"
  PRINT IsIt1$;
  IsIt2$ = ", value unknown, 24-bit color."
  COLOR GETNEAREST(0,0,0),GETNEAREST(255,255,255)
  PRINT IsIt2$
ENDIF
PRINT " Compression greater than RLE-# is accomplished by calling msvideo.dll."
PRINT " Amount of compression by this method doesn't appear to be noted in
the header!?"
COLOR GETNEAREST(255,0,0),GETNEAREST(255,255,255)
PRINT " msv1[32] & Intel Indeo[TM] crash & burn, taking Windows with them -
do NOT use!"
COLOR GETNEAREST(0,0,0),GETNEAREST(255,255,255)
PRINT " There are many other Codecs available, but I don't have'em to test."
COLOR GETNEAREST(0,0,255),GETNEAREST(255,255,255)
PRINT " Next step: determine image size limits of those that I have (Yes,
limits exist!)."
COLOR GETNEAREST(0,0,0),GETNEAREST(255,255,255)
PRINT " Image Data Size: ";
PRINT USING "#,###,###",bmih.biSizeImage;
PRINT " bytes, or";
PRINT USING "#######.##",bmih.biSizeImage / 1024;
PRINT " Kb"
PRINT " Horz Resolution (default is 75 if 0) : ";INT(bmih.biXPelsPerMeter /
39.36);" dpi"
PRINT " Vert Resolution (default is 75 if 0) : ";INT(bmih.biYPelsPerMeter /
39.36);" dpi"
PRINT " Number of colors  (0 if > 256, it is pallet info): ";bmih.biClrUsed
PRINT " Important colors  (0 if above is 0): ";bmih.biClrImportant
PRINT
PRINT " RIGHT-click or <Esc> to close, LEFT-click to continue."
DO
  t$ = INKEY$
  EXIT IF ASC(t$) = 27/* terminates when ESC is pressed
  SWITCH MOUSEK
  CASE 1
    GOTO PeTe
  CASE 2
    GOTO Thats_It
  ENDSWITCH
LOOP
Thats_It:
CLOSEW #1
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List Member "Roland Walter" <roland@rowalt.de> wrote:

> >By, Roland
> >(coming back from weekend)
> >
> Thank you, Roland!  Please, do NOT continue dropping such bombs &
> then going offline for 2 or 3 days.  I have pulled out most of my
> hair & have developed an ulcer of the stomach.  Joke!  Almost.
Oh, I am so sorry :-)))))))))))))))))))
My next program will start with a message box:
     EXPLOSIVES - Be aware of your hairs!
     Before starting this program You must
     certify to be bald.
            [Yes]   [No]

;-) Roland

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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Is partially bald counted as bald or has hair?

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> List Member "Roland Walter" <roland@rowalt.de> wrote:
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> My next program will start with a message box:
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>             [Yes]   [No]
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List Member "Russell Hayward" <russ@softhome.net> wrote:

Hi Jim,

> Also, isn't there a function which returns the length (in pixels) of a
> text string based on the current font? I seem to recall one, but can't
remember
> it, nor can I find it.

Isn't it annoying when you forget the name of a function? I hate having to
stop mid-program to search in the help, then you usually find you knew it
all along, anyway (from the Win 3.1 SDK):

DWORD GetTextExtent(hdc, lpszString, cbString)

HDC hdc; /* handle of device context */
LPCSTR lpszString; /* address of string */
int cbString; /* number of bytes in string */


The GetTextExtent function computes the width and height of a line of text,
using the current font to compute the dimensions.

Parameter Description

hdc Identifies the device context.
lpszString Points to a character string.
cbString Specifies the number of bytes in the string.

Returns

The low-order word of the return value contains the string width, in logical
units, if the function is successful; the high-order word contains the
string height.

Comments

The current clipping region does not affect the width and height returned by
the GetTextExtent function.

Since some devices do not place characters in regular cell arrays (that is,
they kern characters), the sum of the extents of the characters in a string
may not be equal to the extent of the string.
Example

The following example retrieves the number of characters in a string by
using the lstrlen function, calls the GetTextExtent function to retrieve the
dimensions of the string, and then uses the LOWORD macro to determine the
string width, in logical units:

DWORD dwExtent;
WORD wTextWidth;
LPSTR lpszJustified = "Text to be justified in this test.";

dwExtent = GetTextExtent(hdc, lpszJustified, lstrlen(lpszJustified));
wTextWidth = LOWORD(dwExtent);

See Also

GetTabbedTextExtent, SetTextJustification

> Maybe I'm thinking of the Atari?

I don't remember one, I wish there was, I hated having to work out the width
of everything. It was easier with the old fixed-width font though.

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
'work_out.lst using GetTextExtent()
' Positioning &  wrapping text with GetTextExtent
OPENW #1,0,0,_X,_Y,0
y% = 2
a$ = "1. Hit <any key> to close."
t% = GetTextExtent(_DC(1),V:a$,LEN(a$))
x% = _X / 2 - LOWORD(t%) / 2
PRINT x%;" pixels -> 1"
TEXT x%,y% + 10,a$
a$ = "2. He says that a really long sentence is tried here,"
t% = GetTextExtent(_DC(1),V:a$,LEN(a$))
x% = _X / 2 - LOWORD(t%) / 2
PRINT x%;" pixels -> 2"
TEXT x%,y% + 42,a$
a$ = "3. & a short phrase here."
t% = GetTextExtent(_DC(1),V:a$,LEN(a$))
x% = _X / 2 - LOWORD(t%) / 2
TEXT x%,y% + 58,a$
PRINT x%;" pixels -> 3"
a$ = "4. I am running a really nasty test here.  "
a$ = a$ + "He says that a really, really, "
a$ = a$ + "really long sentence is tried here."
a$ = a$ + "  But I'm gonna wrap it anyway.  You betchum!  See!!!"
t% = GetTextExtent(_DC(1),V:a$,LEN(a$))
x% = 0
TEXT x%,y% + 190,a$
PRINT x%;" pixels -> 4 & 5"
a$ = "5. I am running a really nasty test here.  "
a$ = a$ + "He says that a really, really, "
a$ = a$ + "really long sentence is tried here."
a$ = a$ + "  But I'm gonna wrap it anyway.  You betchum!  See!!!"
t% = GetTextExtent(_DC(1),V:a$,LEN(a$))
Marcque% = LOWORD(t%)
PRINT Marcque%;" pixels long"
Mark% = GETDEVCAPS(HORZRES)
PRINT Mark%;" pixels wide"
Marsh% = WIND_GET(20)
PRINT Marsh%;" pixels/char"
Jane% = Marcque% / Marsh%
PRINT Jane%;" chars overall"
June% = Mark% / Marsh%
PRINT June%;" chars allowable"
Jenny% = Jane% - June%
PRINT Jenny%;" chars too many"
Marci% = LEN(a$)
b$ = CHR$(32)
Marq% = RINSTR(a$,b$,Marci% - Jenny%)
PRINT Marq%;" wrap point (Doesn't add up, but works!)"
Chuck1$ = LEFT$(a$,Marq%)
Chuck2$ = RIGHT$(a$,Marci% - Marq%)
TEXT x%,y% + 222,Chuck1$
TEXT x%,y% + 238,Chuck2$
C$ = "Well, you get the idea... now to try it on the printer!"
t% = GetTextExtent(_DC(1),V:a$,LEN(C$))
x% = _X - LOWORD(t%)
TEXT x%,y% + 300,C$
C$ = "Everything but 'justified' <- -> !"
t% = GetTextExtent(_DC(1),V:a$,LEN(C$))
x% = _X / 2 - LOWORD(t%) / 2
TEXT x%,y% + 330,C$
C$ = "<G>"
t% = GetTextExtent(_DC(1),V:a$,LEN(C$))
x% = _X / 2 - LOWORD(t%) / 2
TEXT x%,y% + 350,C$
C$ = "TomR."
t% = GetTextExtent(_DC(1),V:a$,LEN(C$))
x% = _X / 2 - LOWORD(t%) / 2
TEXT x%,y% + 370,C$
KEYGET k%
CLOSEW #1
END



At 11:47 PM 10/11/99 -0000, you wrote:
>List Member "Russell Hayward" <russ@softhome.net> wrote:
>
>Hi Jim,
>
>> Also, isn't there a function which returns the length (in pixels) of a
>> text string based on the current font? I seem to recall one, but can't
>remember
>> it, nor can I find it.
>
>Isn't it annoying when you forget the name of a function? I hate having to
>stop mid-program to search in the help, then you usually find you knew it
>all along, anyway (from the Win 3.1 SDK):
>
>DWORD GetTextExtent(hdc, lpszString, cbString)
>
>HDC hdc; /* handle of device context */
>LPCSTR lpszString; /* address of string */
>int cbString; /* number of bytes in string */
>
>
>The GetTextExtent function computes the width and height of a line of text,
>using the current font to compute the dimensions.
>
>Parameter Description
>
>hdc Identifies the device context.
>lpszString Points to a character string.
>cbString Specifies the number of bytes in the string.
>
>Returns
>
>The low-order word of the return value contains the string width, in logical
>units, if the function is successful; the high-order word contains the
>string height.
>
>Comments
>
>The current clipping region does not affect the width and height returned by
>the GetTextExtent function.
>
>Since some devices do not place characters in regular cell arrays (that is,
>they kern characters), the sum of the extents of the characters in a string
>may not be equal to the extent of the string.
>Example
>
>The following example retrieves the number of characters in a string by
>using the lstrlen function, calls the GetTextExtent function to retrieve the
>dimensions of the string, and then uses the LOWORD macro to determine the
>string width, in logical units:
>
>DWORD dwExtent;
>WORD wTextWidth;
>LPSTR lpszJustified = "Text to be justified in this test.";
>
>dwExtent = GetTextExtent(hdc, lpszJustified, lstrlen(lpszJustified));
>wTextWidth = LOWORD(dwExtent);
>
>See Also
>
>GetTabbedTextExtent, SetTextJustification
>
>> Maybe I'm thinking of the Atari?
>
>I don't remember one, I wish there was, I hated having to work out the width
>of everything. It was easier with the old fixed-width font though.
>
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List Member "Malcolm Jack Howard" <machoward@bigpond.com> wrote:
>Got it but not sure what to do with it <g>!


I've got it too and tried, unsuccessfully, to do something with it.

What are the limitations on the test program? I've tried to load in a gfw-16
program of around 900 lines  (save as text and it apparently loads into gb32
as a program - or maybe not). It stops at 232 lines and I get a message that
seems to indicate I've run out of RAM (16 Mbyte on my PC). I find that
difficult to believe.

Trying to continue I get the message "Maximale Programmlange Erreicht" - I
have no German but doesn't that tell me that I've exceeded the program
maximum?

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List Member "Bev & Lou Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
I believe the limit is 200 lines & after trying to load a few of the
programs that ended up on GFA16 mailing list, I decided it wasn't worth it
until some English dics come along...

                                                   ->Bev<--


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> List Member "Malcolm Jack Howard" <machoward@bigpond.com> wrote:
> >Got it but not sure what to do with it <g>!
>
>
> I've got it too and tried, unsuccessfully, to do something with it.
>
> What are the limitations on the test program? I've tried to load in a
gfw-16
> program of around 900 lines  (save as text and it apparently loads into
gb32
> as a program - or maybe not). It stops at 232 lines and I get a message
that
> seems to indicate I've run out of RAM (16 Mbyte on my PC). I find that
> difficult to believe.
>
> Trying to continue I get the message "Maximale Programmlange Erreicht" - I
> have no German but doesn't that tell me that I've exceeded the program
> maximum?
>
> Mac Howard
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List Member "Malcolm Jack Howard" <machoward@bigpond.com> wrote:
>List Member "Bev & Lou Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
>I believe the limit is 200 lines & after trying to load a few of the
>programs that ended up on GFA16 mailing list, I decided it wasn't worth it
>until some English dics come along...
>
>                                                   ->Bev<--


That explains things. I seem to remember that the gfa-16 had a limit of 1000
lines and would allow you to load in (but not edit) much larger programs but
200 isn't much use at all. I wanted to see how compatible gb32 was with
gfa-16.

I too had trouble making sense of the German help files. I guess we just
have to wait for the English release.

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List Member Jim Pennington <Jim@x-act.net> wrote:

Tom,

Thanks for the sample code. Although your response was akin to teaching me to
build a clock when I asked for the time <GGG>, I learned a lot poring over the
code. I've printed them out and added them to my notebook of "stuff I need to
know".

Thanks again,

Jim



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List Member Jim Pennington <Jim@x-act.net> wrote:

Russell,

I think it has something to do with the fact that the farther you get into a
project, the older you get! It turns out that the function that I was looking for
was TXTLEN (no "E"), and I found it while looking for something else (in Tom's
sample printer code).  :{=

My problem was simply that RFONT and WIND_GET returned different values for
height and width for ANSI_FIXED_FONT. I was looking for TXTLEN to get the width
of multiple characters so I could calculate the character cell width.
In the process, I found GetTextExtent (etc). The result was that WIND_GET and
GetTextExtent return the same numbers, and agree with the width calculated
from TXTLEN. That means that RFONT, for some reason, returns the wrong values for
that font. Gotcha!     :{=

In business data processing, where you are producing columnar reports, fixed
fonts are a necessity. One of my biggest complaints about the PC is that the
default fixed fonts are atrocious. The one I prefer is MS Linedraw, but it's not
available on all systems. The upside, though, is that there are some really nice
proportional fonts, and the average person can produce typeset quality documents.
Aint science wonderful?

As usual, thanks for your help,

Jim


> List Member "Russell Hayward" <russ@softhome.net> wrote:
>    
> Hi Jim, 
>    
> > Also, isn't there a function which returns the length (in pixels) of a 
> > text string based on the current font? I seem to recall one, but can't 
> remember 
> > it, nor can I find it. 
>  
> Isn't it annoying when you forget the name of a function? I hate having to 
> stop mid-program to search in the help, then you usually find you knew it 
> all along, anyway (from the Win 3.1 SDK): 
>  
> DWORD GetTextExtent(hdc, lpszString, cbString) 
>  
> HDC hdc; /* handle of device context */ 
> LPCSTR lpszString; /* address of string */ 
> int cbString; /* number of bytes in string */ 
>  
>  
> The GetTextExtent function computes the width and height of a line of text, 
> using the current font to compute the dimensions.

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>> Maybe I'm thinking of the Atari?
>
> I don't remember one, I wish there was, I hated having to work out the width
> of everything. It was easier with the old fixed-width font though.




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List Member Jim Pennington <Jim@x-act.net> wrote:

Tom and Russell,

In describing the problem, I neglected to mention what my REAL problem was.
I simply wanted to open a window with a display area which was based on the
height and width of the font to be used. GETFONT/RFONT will do that, but all of
the other functions relate to the current font in the current window, and can't
be used UNTIL you open a window. Catch 22! If I can't trust RFONT, what can I use
to retrieve those values BEFORE opening the window?

Cheers,

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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
It is my understanding that the demo is limited to around 200 lines of code.
Dale

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> List Member "Malcolm Jack Howard" <machoward@bigpond.com> wrote:
> >Got it but not sure what to do with it <g>!
>
>
> I've got it too and tried, unsuccessfully, to do something with it.
>
> What are the limitations on the test program? I've tried to load in a
gfw-16
> program of around 900 lines  (save as text and it apparently loads into
gb32
> as a program - or maybe not). It stops at 232 lines and I get a message
that
> seems to indicate I've run out of RAM (16 Mbyte on my PC). I find that
> difficult to believe.
>
> Trying to continue I get the message "Maximale Programmlange Erreicht" - I
> have no German but doesn't that tell me that I've exceeded the program
> maximum?
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
At 09:27 AM 11/11/99 PST, you wrote:
>List Member Jim Pennington <Jim@x-act.net> wrote:
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>Tom,
>
>Thanks for the sample code. Although your response was akin to teaching me to
>build a clock when I asked for the time <GGG>, I learned a lot poring over the
>code. I've printed them out and added them to my notebook of "stuff I need to
>know".
>
>Thanks again,
>
>Jim
>

You're welcome.  That was the result of weeks of stumblin around.
You're lucky I even found it - I have a biiiiig bunch of ZIP100s
to sort out & list.  That was on #33 or #34 of the unlisted.
<G>
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>I simply wanted to open a window with a display area which was based on
the
height and width of the font to be used.<

Look at Dale's Help site and download Wraptxt6.

It shows how to measure the width of a string, and fit it into a window i=
n
a simple text wrapping exercise.
You have to compute the width based on the actual string or a sample stri=
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which you intend to print.

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
OPR00~10.JPE   ......JFIF....  Jpeg image
OPR00~11.JPE   ......JFIF....  Jpeg image
OPR00~12.JPE   ......JFIF....  Jpeg image
OPR00~13.JPE   ......JFIF....  Jpeg image
OPR00~14.JPE   ......JFIF....  Jpeg image
OPR00~15.JPE   ......JFIF....  Jpeg image
OPR00~16.JPE   ......JFIF....  Jpeg image
OPR00~17.JPE   ......JFIF....  Jpeg image
OPR00~18.JPE   ......JFIF....  Jpeg image
OPR00~19.JPE   ......JFIF....  Jpeg image
OPR00~20.JPE   ......JFIF....  Jpeg image
OPR000~1.FCG   GIF89a..<.....  GIF89a image
OPR000~1.YOD   GIF89a..<.....  GIF89a image
OPR00014.TMP   document.write  HTM/HTML Doc
OPR000NK.DLL   GIF89a..<.....  GIF89a image
OPR000PT.CGI   GIF89ax.......  GIF89a image
OPR001~1.FCG   GIF89a..<.....  GIF89a image
OPR001~1.JPE   ......JFIF....  Jpeg image
OPR001~1.YOD   ......JFIF....  Jpeg image
OPR001~2.JPE   ......JFIF....  Jpeg image
OPR001~2.YOD   GIF89a..<.....  GIF89a image
OPR001~3.JPE   ......JFIF....  Jpeg image
OPR001~3.YOD   ......JFIF....  Jpeg image
OPR001~4.JPE   ......JFIF....  Jpeg image
OPR001~4.YOD   ......JFIF....  Jpeg image
OPR001~5.JPE   ......JFIF....  Jpeg image
OPR001~6.JPE   ......JFIF....  Jpeg image
OPR001~7.JPE   ......JFIF....  Jpeg image
OPR001~8.JPE   ......JFIF....  Jpeg image
OPR001~9.JPE   ......JFIF....  Jpeg image
OPR001TS.DLL   GIF89a..<.....  GIF89a image
OPR001TT.DLL   GIF89a..=.....  GIF89a image
OPR001TV.DLL   GIF89a..=.....  GIF89a image
OPR001TX.DLL   ......JFIF....  Jpeg image
OPR001TY.DTC   GIF89ad.<.....  GIF89a image
OPR001UD.TMP   document.write  HTM/HTML Doc
OPR001UG.CGI   GIF87a..).....  GIF87a image
OPR001V7.JS    test=1;.dt=(ne  Java Script
OPR001WX.JS    test=1;.dt=(ne  Java Script
OPR001WY.DLL   GIF89a..<.....  GIF89a image

*Some* of the extensions are fixed, others are not.
Java v1.2 is for MSIE, v1.3 is for Netscape.  The
script checks for the browser in use.  Opera is not
yet accepted as a 'standard' for browsers.  These
files are from my Opera v3.6 cache.

Have yet to find anything in a *.gif header to show
that it is an animation.  Many *.cgi files are.

If you find others, please let me know.  Thanks.
TomR.  Tiger.Genealogical.Rescue@worldnet.att.net

********************* cut here, program follows ********************
/* file_id.lst   11 Nov 1999, TomR.  May it serve you well <G>.

'OPENW #1
DEFMOUSE 2

TYPE dta:
- CHAR *21 fs_donttouch$
- BYTE  fs_attr
- CARD  fs_time
- CARD  fs_date
- LONG  fs_size
- CHAR *14 fs_name$
ENDTYPE

DIM m&(255)

FOR i% = 0 TO 31
  m&(i%) = 46
NEXT i%
FOR i% = 32 TO 122
  m&(i%) = i%
NEXT i%
FOR i% = 123 TO 255
  m&(i%) = 46
NEXT i%

OPEN "o",#2,"file_id.dat"
//
dta% = FGETDTA() //stores the address of // DTA in a%
e% = FSFIRST("*.*",%10001)
/* e% = FSFIRST("full path to dir w/ files you want to check\*.*",%10001)
WHILE e% => 0
  q$ = {dta%}.fs_name$
  IF RIGHT$(q$,1) = "." THEN GOTO SkIp /* skips \. & \..
  IF RIGHT$(q$,3) = "LST" THEN GOTO SkIp /* you may not need
  IF RIGHT$(q$,3) = "DAT" THEN GOTO SkIp /* skips it's file_id.dat
  PRINT #2,q$;SPACE$(15 - LEN(q$)); /* >15 (123?) for long filenames
  OPEN "I",#91,q$
  g$ = XLATE$(INPUT$(14,#91),m&())
  CLOSE #91
  PRINT #2, g$;"  ";
  IF LEFT$(g$,6) = "GIF89a" THEN PRINT #2,"GIF89a image"
  IF LEFT$(g$,6) = "GIF87a" THEN PRINT #2,"GIF87a image"
  IF LEFT$(g$,6) = "test=1" THEN PRINT #2,"Java Script"
  IF MID$(g$,7,4) = "JFIF" THEN PRINT #2,"Jpeg image"
  IF g$ = "document.write" THEN PRINT #2,"HTM/HTML Doc"
  /* there *could* be more, I suspect!
  SkIp:
  e% = FSNEXT()
WEND
PRINT #2,""
PRINT #2,"*Some* of the extensions are fixed, others are not."
PRINT #2,"Java v1.2 is for MSIE, v1.3 is for Netscape.  The"
PRINT #2,"script checks for the browser in use.  Opera is not"
PRINT #2,"yet accepted as a 'standard' for browsers.  These"
PRINT #2,"files are from my Opera v3.6 cache."
PRINT #2,""
PRINT #2,"Have yet to find anything in a *.gif header to show"
PRINT #2,"that it is an animation.  Many *.cgi files are."
PRINT #2,""
PRINT #2,"If you find others, please let me know.  Thanks."
PRINT #2,"TomR.  Tiger.Genealogical.Rescue@worldnet.att.net"

'KEYGET kkk&
CLOSE #2
DEFMOUSE 0
'CLOSEW #1
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
/* devcaps.lst   TomR. 12 Nov 1999  May it serve you well.
cx& = GETDEVCAPS(HORZRES) /* screen width in pixels
cy& = GETDEVCAPS(VERTRES) /* screen height in pixels
px& = GETDEVCAPS(LOGPIXELSX) /* screen dpi (horz) in pixels
py& = GETDEVCAPS(LOGPIXELSY) /* screen dpi (vert) in pixels
cc& = GETDEVCAPS(BITSPIXEL) /* screen color depth in bits Number of bits per
pixel
cc1& = GETDEVCAPS(COLORRES) /* screen color depth in bits? Color resolution
in bits per pixel?
cc2& = GETDEVCAPS(NUMCOLORS) /* Number of available colors
TITLEW #1, "  Barebones display info...  RIGHT-click to exit"
OPENW #1,0,0,cx&,cy&,16
? "  Window fullscreen, no border, no menu, no toolbar, etc...."
?
? "  GETDEVCAPS(HORZRES) {screen}                  "; cx&
? "  _X {window client X}                                         ";_X
? "  GETDEVCAPS(VERTRES) {screen}                   "; cy&
? "   _Y {window client Y, no menu, no tool}           "; _Y
? "  GETDEVCAPS(LOGPIXELSY) {dpi X}                  "; px&
? "  GETDEVCAPS(LOGPIXELSY) {dpi Y}                  "; py&
? "  GETDEVCAPS(BITSPIXEL) {colordepth}        "; cc&;"-bit"
? "  _C color adaptor setting {colors}                  "; _C
? "  GETDEVCAPS(COLORRES)                            "; cc1&;" ???"
? "  GETDEVCAPS(NUMCOLORS)                   "; cc2&;" ???"
?
? "  Scaling factors for windows & screens:"
? "  640x480 to 800x600:      *1.25      800x600 to 640x480:   *0.75"
? "  640x480 to 1024x768:    *1.6      1024x768 to 640x480:   *0.625"
? "  640x480 to 1280x960:    *2.0      1280x960 to 640x480:   *0.5"
? "  800x600 to 1024x768:    *1.28"
? "  800x600 to 1280x960:    *1.6"
? "  1024x768 to 1280x960:  *1.25"
?
? "  RIGHT-click to quit"
DO UNTIL MOUSEK & 2
LOOP
CLOSEW #1
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List Member Ronald Stear <rstear@usunwired.net> wrote:
There are a couple of things I am having trouble with:

How can I keep tell a dialog box to always be 'on top'?

I'm trying to print an ascii text file to a printer.  I've been able to
get it to print OK but can't seem to get a 'form feed' to happen at the
end of the page.  I need to insert a new header and page number on
subsequent pages so I can't just roll it all out to the printer (this
works just fine).  So I'm trying to count lines on the page as I send
them to the printer (TEXT ...), issue a NEW FRAME after a certain number
of lines... etc.  My feeble code follows:

        linecount%=0
        OPEN "r",#1,".\bases\power.log"
        WHILE NOT EOF( #1)
          LINE INPUT #1,ms$
          IF linecount% = 0 THEN header$ = ms$
          TEXT 1,linecount% * 67, ms$
          linecount% = linecount% + 1
          IF linecount% >= 40 THEN
            linecount% = 0
            pagecount% = pagecount% + 1
            NEW FRAME
            ms$ = header$ + SPACE$(10) + "Page: " + STR$(pagecount%)
            TEXT 1,1,ms$
            TEXT 16,1,SPACE$(1)
          ENDIF
        WEND
        CLOSE #1
        ENDDOC

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List Member Micromiser Software <miser@cde.com> wrote:
At 08:20 AM 11/13/99 -0600, you wrote:
>How can I keep tell a dialog box to always be 'on top'?

Try setting attributes in your DIALOG command to:
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Micromiser Software wrote:

> List Member Micromiser Software <miser@cde.com> wrote:
> At 08:20 AM 11/13/99 -0600, you wrote:
> >How can I keep tell a dialog box to always be 'on top'?
>
> Try setting attributes in your DIALOG command to:
>   DS_SYSMODAL | WS_POPUP | WS_VISIBLE | DS_MODALFRAME

These don't appear to help too much.  The dialog will still drop behind
the open window if clicked off the dialog box.

>
> -and-
> Try ~SetSysModalWindow(DLG(1)) after the ENDDIALOG line.

This certainly works, but with WS_CAPTION on, the dialog can't be moved.

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List Member Micromiser Software <miser@cde.com> wrote:
At 01:29 PM 11/13/99 -0600, you wrote:
>List Member Ronald Stear <rstear@usunwired.net> wrote:
>> Try ~SetSysModalWindow(DLG(1)) after the ENDDIALOG line.
>This certainly works, but with WS_CAPTION on, the dialog can't be moved.
>
At that point I would just confine the mouse. I'm sure there are better
ways, but I'm out of ideas.

I hope someone responds to your question about printing. I'm having a
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Having your cake & eating it too are very difficult to arrange!
GFA-W(16) & life are similar... they rarely allow it to happen.
One must compromise quite frequently.
<G>
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>List Member Ronald Stear <rstear@usunwired.net> wrote:
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>Micromiser Software wrote:
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>> List Member Micromiser Software <miser@cde.com> wrote:
>> At 08:20 AM 11/13/99 -0600, you wrote:
>> >How can I keep tell a dialog box to always be 'on top'?
>>
>> Try setting attributes in your DIALOG command to:
>>   DS_SYSMODAL | WS_POPUP | WS_VISIBLE | DS_MODALFRAME
>
>These don't appear to help too much.  The dialog will still drop behind
>the open window if clicked off the dialog box.
>
>>
>> -and-
>> Try ~SetSysModalWindow(DLG(1)) after the ENDDIALOG line.
>
>This certainly works, but with WS_CAPTION on, the dialog can't be moved.
>
>>
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Please specify the printing problem.  I'll bet Brent or I have been
thru it.  I'll take time to look for the specific file needed.
<G>
TomR.



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>List Member Micromiser Software <miser@cde.com> wrote:
>At 01:29 PM 11/13/99 -0600, you wrote:
>>List Member Ronald Stear <rstear@usunwired.net> wrote:
>>> Try ~SetSysModalWindow(DLG(1)) after the ENDDIALOG line.
>>This certainly works, but with WS_CAPTION on, the dialog can't be moved.
>>
>At that point I would just confine the mouse. I'm sure there are better
>ways, but I'm out of ideas.
>
>I hope someone responds to your question about printing. I'm having a
>similar problem. If I come up with something, I'll let you know.
>
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
I have a dialog open.  I can position it.  I want to get a
screenshot of it with the combobox open, but using the 
Print Scrn key/MSPaint/etc., is a very long & tedious
process & I may have 25 or 30 of these to do.

ANY other keypress closes the combobox.  The right mouse
button doesn't close the combobox, but the routine this
normally brings up is passed over.  A right click brings
up a popup menu.

I've tried setting it up so that at a particular time in the
run, just popping the menu *should* cause a screenshot to be
done from within the program itself, using the *.pic save
feature it in.  No soap, no cigar!  The shot isn't made.  All
else is working just fine.

Sure could use some help on this.
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List Member Micromiser Software <miser@cde.com> wrote:
Hi Tom,

At 01:24 AM 11/14/99 +0000, you wrote:
>List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>Please specify the printing problem.  I'll bet Brent or I have been
>thru it.  I'll take time to look for the specific file needed.

On 11/13/99 Ronald Steer describe his printing problem in a message,
including his code. Did you get it?

My problem is that when I call a procedure containing: STARTDOC, NEWPAGE,
ENDDOC several times to print several duplicate copies, there is a 2 minute
delay between. But only happens so far on a Canon Multi-task printer. Also,
that particular printer does not respond at all to OPEN "O",#1,"LPT1", so
can't use that alternative. Have turned off print cache in Windows...

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List Member "Malcolm Jack Howard" <machoward@bigpond.com> wrote:
Thanks guys, your input has been extremely useful and we seem to have solved
the problem for most machines. The program is intended for 386/Win 3.1 to
Pentium lll/late Win 98, 16 colour to 32 bit colour, 640x480 screen
resolution to 1600x800 with little significant change to its presentation so
there are bound to be a few individual PCs with problems. Nevertheless, most
users are happy.

Thanks again.

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List Member Micromiser Software <miser@cde.com> wrote:
Hi Tom,

If I've crunched a thread about printing, please forgive and ignore me until
other issues are settled. Otherwise...

Thanks for the advice. Your speculation about releasing memory is
intriguing. I'll look at that. After STARTDOC/NEWPAGE/ENDDOC I am releasing
the printer DC, but I wonder if I really am (this is GFA/Windows after all),
and if there is anything else to release...besides the obvious! <grin>. But
this same routing works fine with regular inkjets/lasers/dot matrix. Only
the Canon multi-task has the delay-between-copies problem. So assume it's
something to do with that. They have real "compatibility intensive" software
to handle their routing. I've got an email in to them. 4 days and waiting...

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
At 02:07 AM 14/11/99 -0500, you wrote:
>List Member Micromiser Software <miser@cde.com> wrote:
>Hi Tom,
>
>At 01:24 AM 11/14/99 +0000, you wrote:
>>List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>>Please specify the printing problem.  I'll bet Brent or I have been
>>thru it.  I'll take time to look for the specific file needed.
>
>On 11/13/99 Ronald Steer describe his printing problem in a message,
>including his code. Did you get it?
>
+++ If I got it, I musta deleted w/o thinking.  At best, I recall there being
several problems & each time I've responded, I got something new.  I do recall
being told I had somebody assemble a clock to teach'em how to tell time.  Well,
that's sorta what happens to me all of the time - I have to sort out what I need
from something pretty involved.  I don't meant to be hard to get along with - I
am going thru a rough spell & concentrating is difficult.  I'm up to my ears
in this codec-compression & not nearly as attentive to others as I should be.
>
>My problem is that when I call a procedure containing: STARTDOC, NEWPAGE,
>ENDDOC several times to print several duplicate copies, there is a 2 minute
>delay between. But only happens so far on a Canon Multi-task printer. Also,
>that particular printer does not respond at all to OPEN "O",#1,"LPT1", so
>can't use that alternative. Have turned off print cache in Windows...
>
+++ Just a suggestion on this 'cause I donno for sure... have you tried
"print to file", then work from there?  I run Canon BJCs without any real
problems except that they like to lean into the red on color.  I'm working
on reducing the red component on my own to see if I can get around that.

Just a thot... look at the time it takes to make the first run.  Is it much
different from the others?  You *may* have a problem of releasing memory,
etc., between runs.
>
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>
>My problem is that when I call a procedure containing: STARTDOC, NEWPAGE,
>ENDDOC several times to print several duplicate copies, there is a 2 minute
>delay between. But only happens so far on a Canon Multi-task printer. Also,
>that particular printer does not respond at all to OPEN "O",#1,"LPT1", so
>can't use that alternative. Have turned off print cache in Windows...
>
+++ S'more thinkin <G>.  Why are you using DOS print?  As I recall, the 
original printer discussion was about line width & length, counting lines,
etc.  If what I've posted doesn't help w/ what's happening, let me know &
I'll send some other stuff.  I don't mess w/ DOS print, tho - it's Windows
all the way.  Just curiosity on my part.  I steer clear of DOS/GFA-W(16)
mix as much as possible - the only reason DOS is on here is because Windows
won't run without it.  Not even TRSDOS was *this* problematic!

I've had success printing multiple copies in Windows, but it was a while back
& I may not be able to find the routine very quickly.  Most stuff is on
ZIP-100s & I'm still working on a catalog program for them.  The one that came
with the drives won't run on this computer for some reason.
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
At 03:43 AM 14/11/99 -0500, you wrote:
>List Member Micromiser Software <miser@cde.com> wrote:
>Hi Tom,
>
>If I've crunched a thread about printing, please forgive and ignore me until
>other issues are settled. Otherwise...
>
+++ No problem - I have many things in my mind & sometimes lose track easily.
There was a discussion going in that I was trying to help with - dealing w/
trying to determine all factors around a font so the window could be opened
up to specs.  I've done this, but in a standard window - no textedit or such
involved.  I was playing w/ bigedit.gfa & Roland's formtext (rtm).

I have to get my mind back into operation anyway, so if you think I can help
don't hesitate to yell.
>
>Thanks for the advice. Your speculation about releasing memory is
>intriguing. I'll look at that. After STARTDOC/NEWPAGE/ENDDOC I am releasing
>the printer DC, but I wonder if I really am (this is GFA/Windows after all),
>and if there is anything else to release...besides the obvious! <grin>. But
>this same routing works fine with regular inkjets/lasers/dot matrix. Only
>the Canon multi-task has the delay-between-copies problem. So assume it's
>something to do with that. They have real "compatibility intensive" software
>to handle their routing. I've got an email in to them. 4 days and waiting...
>
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Must be one of those printer/fax/copy goodies.  Good luck!
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List Member gunnar.boenicke@t-online.de (Gunnar Boenicke) wrote:
Hi everybody,

in the attachement you will find mayby some helpful code about printing.

I am a bit lasy, so you must modify the code for yourself, because i cut it
out my program.

I you habe any question, please ask. (If you german, please in german!)

For dos-printing you must use the escape-code from the manual.
e.g. ?#1,chr$(12)       = NEW FRAME

bye

gunnar

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Subject: Re: [gfabasic] Printer problem
Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 13:15:07 +0100
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List Member gunnar.boenicke@t-online.de (Gunnar Boenicke) wrote:
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Hi everybody,

in the attachement you will find mayby some helpful code about printing.

I am a bit lasy, so you must modify the code for yourself, because i cut it
out my program.

I you habe any question, please ask. (If you german, please in german!)

For dos-printing you must use the escape-code from the manual.
e.g. ?#1,chr$(12)       = NEW FRAME

bye

gunnar

gunnar.boenicke@t-online.de



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OPEN "O",#90,"LPT3.DOS"
? #90,"AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA"
? #90,CHR$(12)  // NEWPAGE by all my printers
CLOSE #90
// Example for printing over print-manager
// even bmp (by me for a letterhead) is no problem

// This part to define the Printer from Win.ini
//Druckport is the Name of Printer !!

path$      =3D SPACE$(128)
szDriver$ =3D SPACE$(128)
~GetProfileString( "devices",druckport$,"", V: szDriver$, 128)
n& =3D INSTR(szDriver$,",")
szOutput$ =3D MID$( szDriver$,n& + 1) + CHR$(0)
szDriver$ =3D MID$( szDriver$, 1, n& - 1 ) + CHR$(0)
szDevice$ =3D druckport$ + CHR$(0)
druckerDc& =3D CreateDC( szDriver$,szDevice$, szOutput$, NULL)

///

IF druckerDc&
  @d_anfang(1,"Etiketten_gr",0)   // Start Printjob
  @d_schrift_eti_gr               // Define Font for Printing
  FOR f3& =3D f1_a& TO f1_e&
    INC f_an&
    INC f1&
    @w_eti_gross(f1&,f_an&)
    IF f1& =3D 16
      f1& =3D 0
      NEW FRAME       // Seitenvorschub
    ENDIF
    EXIT IF f_an& >=3D f_en&
  NEXT f3&
  NEW FRAME
  @d_ende(1)            // End Printjob
ENDIF
PROCEDURE w_eti_gross(zzz&,f3&)   // this is, what i will print
  px =3D 118.2266
  py =3D 118.0575
  rl =3D  0.1
  ro =3D 1.35
  ey =3D 3.4
  ex =3D 9.91
  zw =3D 0.25
  REPEAT
    IF zzz& > 16 THEN SUB zzz&,16
  UNTIL zzz& < 17
  IF  zzz& < 9
    anx =3D rl
    any =3D ro + ((zzz& - 1) * ey)
  ELSE
    anx =3D rl + ex + zw
    any =3D ro + ((zzz& - 9) * ey)
  ENDIF
  punkte& =3D 59.03 * 2
  // 2400=3D210mm=3D11.428,3282=3D297=3D11.05mm
  //  BOX (anx  + 0.21) * px,(any + 0.27) * py, (anx + 5.25) * px,(any + =
0.62) * py
  // BOX (anx  + 0.18) * px,(any + 0.68) * py, (anx + 5.19) * px,(any + =
1.70) * py
  // DRAWTEXT (anx  + 5.26) * px,(any + 0.29) * py,(anx + 6.89) * =
px,(any + 1.70) * py,"EU",DT_LEFT
  // DRAWTEXT (anx  + 6.99) * px,(any + 0.29) * py,(anx + 9.60) * =
px,(any + 1.70) * py,STR$(VAL(waren_vk$(f3&))/euro,8,6),DT_RIGHT
  //  BOX (anx  + 5.26) * px,(any + 0.29) * py, (anx + 6.89) * px,(any + =
1.70) * py
  // BOX (anx  + 6.99) * px,(any + 0.29) * py, (anx + 9.60) * px,(any + =
1.70) * py
  // BOX (anx  + 0.18) * px,(any + 2.10) * py, (anx + 3.40) * px,(any + =
2.89) * py
  // BOX (anx  + 3.38) * px,(any + 1.75) * py, (anx + 6.99) * px,(any + =
3.34) * py
  // BOX (anx  + 3.38) * px,((any + 1.75) * py) + 40 * mul, (anx + 6.99) =
* px,(any + 3.34) * py
  // BOX (anx  + 7.09) * px,(any + 1.75) * py, (anx + 9.60) * px,(any + =
3.28) * py

  SETFONT dr_schrift&(1)  // Shopping Center
  DRAWTEXT (anx  + 0.21) * px,(any + 0.27) * py,(anx + 5.25) * px,(any + =
0.62) * py,"Hof Biggen Shopping Center",DT_LEFT
  SETFONT dr_schrift&(2)  // Text
  DRAWTEXT (anx  + 0.18) * px,(any + 0.68) * py,(anx + 5.19) * px,(any + =
1.70) * py,waren_text$(f3&),DT_LEFT | DT_WORDBREAK
  // SETFONT dr_schrift&(3)  // DM
  // DRAWTEXT (anx  + 5.26) * px,(any + 0.29) * py,(anx + 6.89) * =
px,(any + 1.70) * py,"EU",DT_LEFT
  // SETFONT dr_schrift&(4)  // Preis
  // DRAWTEXT (anx  + 6.99) * px,(any + 0.29) * py,(anx + 9.60) * =
px,(any + 1.70) * py,STR$(VAL(waren_vk$(f3&))/euro,8,6),DT_RIGHT
  SETFONT dr_schrift&(3)  // DM
  DRAWTEXT (anx  + 5.26) * px,(any + 0.29) * py,(anx + 6.89) * px,(any + =
1.70) * py,"DM",DT_LEFT
  SETFONT dr_schrift&(4)  // Preis
  DRAWTEXT (anx  + 6.99) * px,(any + 0.29) * py,(anx + 9.60) * px,(any + =
1.70) * py,waren_vk$(f3&),DT_RIGHT
  SETFONT dr_schrift&(5)  // Spar
  DRAWTEXT (anx  + 0.18) * px,(any + 2.10) * py,(anx + 3.40) * px,(any + =
2.89) * py,waren_lieferant$(f3&),DT_LEFT
  SETFONT dr_schrift&(6)  // Code
  DRAWTEXT (anx  + 3.38) * px,(any + 1.75) * py,(anx + 6.99) * px,(any + =
3.34) * py,waren_code$(f3&),DT_CENTER
  SETFONT dr_schrift&(7)  // Code
  DRAWTEXT (anx  + 3.38) * px,((any + 1.75) * py) + 40 * mul,(anx + =
6.99) * px,(any + 3.34) * py,waren_code_2$(f3&),DT_CENTER
  SETFONT dr_schrift&(2)  // pfand
  // DRAWTEXT (anx  + 7.09) * px,(any + 1.75) * py,(anx + 9.60) * =
px,(any + 3.28) * py,waren_pfand$(f3&),DT_LEFT
  // DRAWTEXT (anx  + 7.09) * px,(any + 1.75) * py,(anx + 9.60) * =
px,(any + 3.28) * py," "+CHR$(13)+CHR$(128)+STR$(999.99/euro,7,2)+"  =
",DT_RIGHT
  GRAPHMODE R2_MASKPEN,TRANSPARENT
  DEFFILL 7
  PBOX (anx  + 7.09) * px,(any + 2.20) * py,(anx + 9.40) * px,(any + =
2.75) * py //," =
"+CHR$(13)+CHR$(128)+STR$(VAL(waren_vk$(f3&))/euro,7,2)+"  ",DT_RIGHT
  RGBCOLOR RGB(0,255,100),RGB(255,255,255)
  // DRAWTEXT (anx  + 7.09) * px,(any + 1.75) * py,(anx + 9.60) * =
px,(any + 3.28) * py,CHR$(127)+CHR$(128)+CHR$(129)+"  =
"+CHR$(13)+STR$(VAL(waren_vk$(f3&))/euro,8,2)+"  ",DT_RIGHT
  DRAWTEXT (anx  + 7.09) * px,(any + 1.75) * py,(anx + 9.60) * px,(any + =
3.28) * py," "+CHR$(13)+CHR$(128)+STR$(VAL(waren_vk$(f3&))/euro,7,2)+"  =
",DT_RIGHT
  RGBCOLOR RGB(0,0,0),RGB(255,255,255)
  GRAPHMODE 1
RETURN
PROCEDURE d_ende(a|)    // End Printjob
  LOCAL f&
  @d_querdruck(1,_SI,druckerDc&)
  FOR f& =3D 1 TO 10
    FREEFONT dr_schrift&(f&)
  NEXT f&
  ENDDOC
  FREEDC druckerDc&
  SETDC _DC(a|)
RETURN
PROCEDURE d_querdruck(quer|,dc&,VAR dc&)  // Turn page 90%
  ' Procedure aus Beispieldatei LAND.GFW
  LOCAL p%=3D0
  LOCAL hg&=3DGetModuleHandle("gdi")
  IF hg& THEN p% =3D GetProcAddress(hg&,"ResetDC")
  IF hd& =3D 0 || p% =3D 0
    a$ =3D MKL$(2,0,0,0,0)
    ~Escape(dc&,30,20,V:a$,0)
    EXPROC
  ENDIF
  PRINT HEX$({hd&:40},8)
  DPOKE hd&:44,quer|
RETURN
PROCEDURE d_anfang(a|,a$,quer|)   // Start Printjob
  IF quer| =3D 0
    @d_querdruck(1,_SI,druckerDc&)
  ELSE
    @d_querdruck(2,_SI,druckerDc&)
  ENDIF
  SETDC druckerDc&
  STARTDOC a$
  dr_y| =3D a| // Anfangsreihe
  mulx| =3D GETDEVCAPS(HORZRES) / 80  // x in Pixel
  muly| =3D GETDEVCAPS(VERTRES) / 70  // y in Pixel
RETURN
// If you will print something on Monitor while printing
// a| =3D DC of window,a$ =3D String what you will print
PROCEDURE d_monitor(a|,x|,y|,a$)
  SETDC _DC(a|)
  p(0,x|,y|,0,a$)
  SETDC druckerDc&
RETURN


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List Member gunnar.boenicke@t-online.de (Gunnar Boenicke) wrote:
Hi everybody,

i find some code to print a bmp to a printer. (My letterhead)
Of course, you must first set the printerDC etc.



bye

gunnar

gunnar.boenicke@t-online.de



// if the bmp is to big
PROCEDURE teile_bmp(f&,adr%,l%)
  LOCAL q%
  IF LOCARD(adr%)
    q% = MIN (l%,LOCARD (~adr%))
    BGET #f&,adr%,q%
    l% -= q%
    adr% = _Huge(adr%,q%)
  ENDIF
  WHILE l% > 32768
    BGET #f&,adr%,32768
    l% -= 32768
    adr% = _Huge(adr%,32768)
  WEND
  IF l% THEN BGET #f&,adr%,l%
RETURN
// a$=the filname, where the bmp is located
PROCEDURE druck_bmp(a$)
  @open("I",a$,1,0)
  l% = LOF(#1)
  DIM a&(20)
  ptr% = MALLOC(l%)
  @teile_bmp(1,ptr%,l% )
  BMOVE ptr%,V:a&(0),40
  CLOSE #1
  IF a&(0) = CVI("BM")
    pbit% = a&(5)
    width& = a&(9)
    height& = a&(11)
    xx& = GETDEVCAPS(HORZRES)
    yy& = GETDEVCAPS(VERTRES) / 4
    b% = StretchDIBits(druckerDc&, 0,100,xx&,yy&, 0,0,width&,height&, ptr% +
pbit%, ptr% + 14, DIB_RGB_COLORS, SRCCOPY)
  ENDIF
  ERASE a&()
  ~MFREE(ptr%)
RETURN


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List Member "Russell Hayward" <russ@softhome.net> wrote:

Hi Jim,

Sorry this is a bit late, I haven't been feeling well.

> Tom and Russell,
>
> In describing the problem, I neglected to mention what my REAL problem
was.
> I simply wanted to open a window with a display area which was based on
the
> height and width of the font to be used. GETFONT/RFONT will do that, but
all of
> the other functions relate to the current font in the current window, and
can't
> be used UNTIL you open a window. Catch 22! If I can't trust RFONT, what
can I use
> to retrieve those values BEFORE opening the window?

Well, I'm sorry to be Mr. API but it's just the way I am (I think I caught
it off Rowland), I would do it by creating a DC then selecting the font into
it. You can then use GetTextExtent for individual lines or, I think, you
could use DrawText for calculating the rectangle that multiple lines would
fit in.

Here's a f'instance: :-D

screen=GetDC(0) ' Can't remember if you have to do this
dc=CreateCompatibleDC(screen)
~ReleaseDC(0,screen)

oldfont=SelectObject(dc,Font)

width=LOWORD(GetTextExtent(dc,"What's the pixel length of this?",LEN("What's
the pixel length of this?"))

~SelectObject(dc,oldfont)

~DeleteDC(dc)

If you use DrawText you might have to set up a bitmap and select it into the
DC. That is only really required if you are using word-wrapping.

Another option I have just thought of. You could open the window off-screen,
find the width and height, and move it on to the screen at that size. That's
probably easier.

Good luck,
Russell Hayward

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List Member "Russell Hayward" <russ@softhome.net> wrote:

Hi Ronald,

> There are a couple of things I am having trouble with:
>
> How can I keep tell a dialog box to always be 'on top'?

The easiest way I've found is to use SetWindowPos:

~SetWindowPos(DLG(0),-1,0,0,0,0,SWP_NOSIZE | SWP_NOMOVE)
' -1=HWND_TOPMOST

I'm sorry, I can't help you with printing, it's difficult to try things out
when you can only use a Star LC-10 to test things on. :-D

HTH,
Russell Hayward

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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Tom,
Paint Shop Pro will do this. You can download a trial at;
http://www.jasc.com

Pretty sure that is right

Dale Bryant
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> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> I have a dialog open.  I can position it.  I want to get a
> screenshot of it with the combobox open, but using the
> Print Scrn key/MSPaint/etc., is a very long & tedious
> process & I may have 25 or 30 of these to do.
>
>
> Sure could use some help on this.
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> TomR.
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Problem!

Cannot do anything while msvideo.dll has control of the appl!  I want
to make screenshots of the dompressor selection dialog, but the only 
way I can is to use the PrintScrn/SysRq button.  This puts an image
of the whole screen on the clipboard.

This is fine, but... I have been unsuccessful trapping that button
press (to make my *own* scrnshots), & just as unsuccessful getting 
the resulting image OFF the clipboard into my appl so it can be cropped
& saved after msvideo.dll is out of the picture.  Resorting to MSPaint
to process it is extremely slow & hazardous for me.

It seems that I'm nowhere near clever enough to shoot that dialog in
any automatic manner.  I am trying to set things up so I can identify
which compressors are available when... according to image size & 
colordepth.  codecs.text doesn't reveal much of this info!  I have yet
to see anything that does.

@&_P(QS%^$~!, Roland!  I need your help since I can not reveal the code
for making the compression!

I can not do anything until msvideo.dll has finished it's job, but that is
too late to shoot the dialog.

TomR.

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List Member Vogel Michael <vo@schoeller.at> wrote:
	Hi,

	when loading a bitmap with handle&=Loadbmp("filenmame") a PUT
x&,y&,handle& looks fine even on old screen displays with 256 colors.
	using LoadBitmap(exehandle&,resourcename$) works fine on truecolor
screens, but the result is horrible (looks like 16 colors) on 256 color
displays - can anyone help ?

	btw, with 32-Bit color cards the function _C returns 0 !!, so modify
things like truecolor&=(_C>256) to truecolor&=NOT(_C<=256)

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Has anybody seen a working GetPixel() routine?

I want to identify the color of the pixel under the tip of the pointer
when the left button is pressed.

I can't get the example in Dale's helpfile to work.
<G>
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List Member Peuapeu@aol.com wrote:
Hi,

Other than using Nviewl16.dll, is there any way to get my 16bit (with some 
32bit WOW calls) application to load in JPEGs?  Although Nview seems to be 
quite nice, I wish to avoid having to ship yet another DLL with the 
application and I'm also very leery about its warning that you have to 
license GIF from "whoever" if you include the dll in a commercial 
application.  Note that I'm not going to allow the user to load GIFs into my 
application so would that still be necessary?  Note that I'd be more than 
willing to pay for the GFABasic source to do this if its available.

James Schumacher
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List Member Peuapeu@aol.com wrote:
Hi,

Using 16 bit API calls or 32 bit WOW calls, I need to be able to make one 
application (A) cause others (B or C), which are minimized on the task bar, 
either maximize or terminate.

For closing an application, it would seem that one could use the statement

  f! =  PostAppMessage(hModuleHandle&,WM_SYSCOMMAND,SC_CLOSE,0)

but how do I get hModuleHandle& of an application on the taskbar when it is 
an earlier _instance of the application that's issuing the PostAppMessage 
command?  In other words, I have an application (A) running and minimized.  
Someone executes the .exe file of the application again (creating B) and when 
it detects that a 3rd application (C) is no longer running, I want 
application B (_instance 2) to close (terminate) application A (_instance 1) 
before terminating itself.

For maximizing another application, I suppose one could use the statement

    moduleName$ = "MSACCESS.EXE" + CHR$(0)
    hModuleHandle& = GetModuleHandle(V:moduleName$)
    IF hModuleHandle& <> 0
    f! = PostAppMessage(hModuleHandle&,WM_SYSCOMMAND,SC_MAXIMIZE,0)

I have hModuleHandle& (the first three statements work) but the last doesn't 
seem to work?    In other words, I have an application (C) that is running 
and minimized.  Now I execute application A (which if C weren't running would 
execute C through a SHELL statement) and I want it to de-iconize C instead.

Yours,

James Schumacher
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List Member John Findlay <Jayef@compuserve.com> wrote:
Tom,

// c% =3D GetPixel(dc&, x&, y&)

OPENW #1
RGBCOLOR RGB(192, 192, 192)
PBOX 0, 0, 330, 330
PRINT "Colour Value =3D ";GetPixel(_DC(1), 20,20)
KEYGET a%
CLOSEW #1


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List Member Peuapeu@aol.com wrote:
<< Welcome, my friend, to an ancient battle. >>

Hi Tom,

<< Regarding the *.dll's *.gif capability... forget it - just don't use that
extension in your program.  The charges come from *USING* the capability, >>

That makes sense and I can certainly do without a gif capability.  My 
interest in having a jpeg capability is that there are two 3rd party 
collections of jpegs that I want my program to be able to use without users 
first having to convert them to bitmaps.

<< Regarding nviewl16.dll's stumbling over some *.jpgs, use TRY/CATCH & you're
OK - it just will fail to work the bad one(s) & skip on to the next. >>

Good to know.  I tested the Nview16 dll and it seems to be able to display 
samples from both sets of jpegs but users might try loading bad ones from 
other sources.

Thanks for your response,

James Schumacher
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Forget it - I got something working *almost* as I think it should.
<G>
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Thank you, John.  I got *almost!* that <G>.  I was tracking the mouse - will
be a procedure to select a point's color to attempt to lighten all like-color
points (or, perhaps, a color to match some other point(s) to).  I was stumbling
over point structures, etc.  Actually gravitated to _DC(), & the 20,20 are the
mouse xpos& & ypos& values.  I'm heading toward lighten, darken, changecolor.

Now, am looking for an expression... not exactly "mentally underprivileged",
but damned nearly <G>.  "mentally challenged" is, I think, the expression,
altho "mentally deprived" or "mentally deteriorated" may be more appropro.

Whatever the correct expression is, it is NO fun!

Any ideas on a eyedropper cursor?  *That* mess kept me going all night!  I
finally quit & settled on the std arrow for now.  Must be a "built" cursor
'cause of the many on here, that isn't one of them.

<G>
TomR.


At 02:51 PM 17/11/99 -0500, you wrote:
>List Member John Findlay <Jayef@compuserve.com> wrote:
>Tom,
>
>// c% = GetPixel(dc&, x&, y&)
>
>OPENW #1
>RGBCOLOR RGB(192, 192, 192)
>PBOX 0, 0, 330, 330
>PRINT "Colour Value = ";GetPixel(_DC(1), 20,20)
>KEYGET a%
>CLOSEW #1
>
>
>John
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Subject: Re: [gfabasic] JPEG?
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
James

Welcome, my friend, to an ancient battle.  No GFA-W source of either 16- or 
32-bit appears to exist for loading/saving *.jpg.  I can provide the guts
for it in "C" to anybody who will translate & provide the working GFA-W(16)
source - I'm totally uninterested in going 32-bit.  I have been working on
*this* situation since 1994!  wecjlib.dll is free, but SUCKS!

The "C" crap I have reads/writes *.jpg, writes *.ppm, *.rle & *tga.

Regarding the *.dll's *.gif capability... forget it - just don't use that
extension in your program.  The charges come from *USING* the capability,
no from *having* it.

There are other choices in *.dlls, but they all cost, beginning at $50US.
Most common is the $200-$300US range, but they go clear up to $900US.

Regarding nviewl16.dll's stumbling over some *.jpgs, use TRY/CATCH & you're
OK - it just will fail to work the bad one(s) & skip on to the next.

Also... that *.dll will fail to save properly a lot of *.gif & *.pcx because
of the ancient code used to decode'em.  The *.pcx code goes back to the time
a *.pcx was really just a *.bmp in disguise.

<G>
TomR.



At 03:41 PM 17/11/99 EST, you wrote:
>List Member Peuapeu@aol.com wrote:
>Hi,
>
>Other than using Nviewl16.dll, is there any way to get my 16bit (with some 
>32bit WOW calls) application to load in JPEGs?  Although Nview seems to be 
>quite nice, I wish to avoid having to ship yet another DLL with the 
>application and I'm also very leery about its warning that you have to 
>license GIF from "whoever" if you include the dll in a commercial 
>application.  Note that I'm not going to allow the user to load GIFs into my 
>application so would that still be necessary?  Note that I'd be more than 
>willing to pay for the GFABasic source to do this if its available.
>
>James Schumacher
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
This "works".
 
   t$ = INKEY$
    EXIT IF ASC(t$) = 27    /* terminates when  ESC is pressed
    EXIT IF ASC(t$) = 13    /* terminates when  ENTER is pressed
    ax% = mx%,ay% = my%,ak% = mk%
    MOUSE mx%,my%,mk%
    IF (ax% <> mx%) || (ay% <> my%) || (ak% <> mk%)
      TEXT 8,230,SPACE$(50)
      IF mx% => 0 && mx% <= w2& && my% => 0 && my% <= h2& THEN m1x% = mx%
      IF mx% < 0 THEN m1x% = 0
      IF mx% > w2& THEN m1x% = w2&
      IF my% => 0 && my% <= h2& && mx% => 0 && mx% <= w2& THEN m1y% = my%
      IF my% < 0 THEN m1y% = 0
      IF my% > h2& THEN m1y% = h2&
      a$ = "X = " + STR$(m1x%,4,0) + ",  Y = " + STR$(m1y%,4,0)
      a$ = a$ + ", button... " + STR$(mk%,1,0)
      TEXT 8,230,a$
      rgb% = GetPixel(_DC(10),mx%,my%) /* get rgb of point - this sucks!
      dwColor% = GetPixel(_DC(10),mx%,my%)
      nRed% = GetRValue(dwColor%) MOD 256
      nBlue% = GetBValue(dwColor%) MOD 256
      ngreen% = GetGValue(dwColor%) MOD 256
      TinT$ = STR$(nRed%) + "," + STR$(nBlue%) + "," + STR$(ngreen%)
      '      TinT$ = TinT$ + "   " + STR$(rgb%) /* incomprehensible huge number!
      COLOR 7,7
      TEXT 5,50,SPACE$(28)
      COLOR 0,7
      TEXT 5,50,TinT$
    ENDIF

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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
GFA32 will load almost all graphic formats including JPG. Look at MultiLoad
by Ulli Stemeler on the GFA32 file section on the  GFAWHELP site.  This is
built-in GFA32.
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> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> James
>
> Welcome, my friend, to an ancient battle.  No GFA-W source of either 16-
or
> 32-bit appears to exist for loading/saving *.jpg.  I can provide the guts
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
At 01:57 PM 17/11/99 -0800, you wrote:
>List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
>GFA32 will load almost all graphic formats including JPG. Look at MultiLoad
>by Ulli Stemeler on the GFA32 file section on the  GFAWHELP site.  This is
>built-in GFA32.
>
+++ Goodydamnedgumdrops!  Seems I was wrong.
>
>Dale Bryant
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>
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>> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> James
>>
>> Welcome, my friend, to an ancient battle.  No GFA-W source of either 16-
>or
>> 32-bit appears to exist for loading/saving *.jpg.  I can provide the guts
>@gfa.net>. SPAM strictly forbidden.
>
+++ So is getting anywhere from across the ocean!
>

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
You're most welcome!  However, Dale says GFA32 can load'em native.
I didn't know this & I will never get to find out on my own because
that's possibly one of the reasons GFA32 is so expensive.

I've been invited to work on a new Windows Basic.  It writes for, &
is compiled by, LCC-Win32, which is FREE!  I'm gonna play with it!
It's only problem I see yet is that it is for Win95/nt & later only.

Question of curiosity... Peuapeu... more & more?
<G>
TomR.



At 08:32 PM 17/11/99 EST, you wrote:
>List Member Peuapeu@aol.com wrote:
><< Welcome, my friend, to an ancient battle. >>
>
>Hi Tom,
>
><< Regarding the *.dll's *.gif capability... forget it - just don't use that
>extension in your program.  The charges come from *USING* the capability, >>
>
>That makes sense and I can certainly do without a gif capability.  My 
>interest in having a jpeg capability is that there are two 3rd party 
>collections of jpegs that I want my program to be able to use without users 
>first having to convert them to bitmaps.
>
><< Regarding nviewl16.dll's stumbling over some *.jpgs, use TRY/CATCH & you're
>OK - it just will fail to work the bad one(s) & skip on to the next. >>
>
>Good to know.  I tested the Nview16 dll and it seems to be able to display 
>samples from both sets of jpegs but users might try loading bad ones from 
>other sources.
>
>Thanks for your response,
>
>James Schumacher
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Tom,

> Any ideas on a eyedropper cursor? <

Arrached is a cursor. Draw a new one with Borland's Workshop. Make a RES
with Borland's Workshop, link it with your exe and load the cursor in.

cur& =3D LoadCursor(hInst&, "mycur")

        hInst& would be _INSTANCE for a compiled prog.
        "mycur" can be a name or ordinal number set with Borland's
Workshop.

Pick up the WM_SETCURSOR message and set the cursor with

 oldcur& =3D SetCursor(cur&)

Save the old cursor so you can put it back when you don't need the droppe=
r.

John


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List Member UlliStemmeler@t-online.de (Ulli Stemmeler) wrote:
GFA32 can load JPGs and GIFs automatically but it depends on your system:
You need Win98 or Win 95b, I guess all depends on the version of a DLL th=
at=20
comes with the Microsoft Internet Explorer 4 or 5.
When you have this, it=B4s fast and works. Although I don't know if it is=
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to save in this file-formats as well....

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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Listen up, Tom Record! I know you said you do not plan on buying the new
GFA32. However, you could download the demo and see what it is like.  What
will all of us do with 32 if we don't have you to keep things shook up?
It won't hurt! (G)
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> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> At 01:57 PM 17/11/99 -0800, you wrote:
> >List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> >GFA32 will load almost all graphic formats including JPG. Look at
MultiLoad
> >by Ulli Stemeler on the GFA32 file section on the  GFAWHELP site.  This
is
> >built-in GFA32.
> >
> +++ Goodydamnedgumdrops!  Seems I was wrong.
> >
> >Dale Bryant
> >http://gfawhelp.gfa.net
> >adbryant@msn.com
> >adbryant@gfa.net
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net>
> >To: <gfabasic@gfa.net>
> >Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 1999 1:19 PM
> >Subject: Re: [gfabasic] JPEG?
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> >
> >> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net>
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> >> James
> >>
> >> Welcome, my friend, to an ancient battle.  No GFA-W source of either
16-
> >or
> >> 32-bit appears to exist for loading/saving *.jpg.  I can provide the
guts
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> +++ So is getting anywhere from across the ocean!
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Hi Ulli,
That is a good question. It would be nice to have the capability to save
them.
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> List Member UlliStemmeler@t-online.de (Ulli Stemmeler) wrote:
> GFA32 can load JPGs and GIFs automatically but it depends on your system:
> You need Win98 or Win 95b, I guess all depends on the version of a DLL
that
> comes with the Microsoft Internet Explorer 4 or 5.
> When you have this, its fast and works. Although I don't know if it is
possible
> to save in this file-formats as well....
>
> Ulli Stemmeler
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
John
Ever truely the gentleman & scholar!
Thanks very much - I donno if I would have considered that route
on my own.  I looked at everything else I have but couldn't find
*.cur possible.
<G>
TomR.


At 08:51 AM 18/11/99 -0500, you wrote:
>
>Tom,
>
>> Any ideas on a eyedropper cursor? <
>
>Arrached is a cursor. Draw a new one with Borland's Workshop. Make a RES
>with Borland's Workshop, link it with your exe and load the cursor in.
>
>cur& = LoadCursor(hInst&, "mycur")
>
>        hInst& would be _INSTANCE for a compiled prog.
>        "mycur" can be a name or ordinal number set with Borland's
>Workshop.
>
>Pick up the WM_SETCURSOR message and set the cursor with
>
> oldcur& = SetCursor(cur&)
>
>Save the old cursor so you can put it back when you don't need the dropper.
>
>John
>
>
>Attachment Converted: C:\WORLDNET\DOWNLOAD\Dropper.cur
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
{lpMem%}.biCompression : bmih.biCompression : *.bmp compression (*)

Is it one word, one long, one byte (yes), one bit (no).

If printed out, it will be a number of 1 to at least 10 digits when
printed as STR$(bmih[or {lpMem%}].biCompression).

A doc I have on "registered" codecs indicates it is alpha, not numeric.

Major question, I guess, is: is that all there is?  Does one have
to "# = text" each time to determine the type of compression?  No
hicard/locard, hiword/loword, etc?  Trying all these have been of
NO success, but then, I'm too lobrow for these hibrow "thingies".

If bmih[or {lpMem%}].biCompression = 0, then it is RGB,
 1 to 24-bit, not compressed.
If bmih[or {lpMem%}].biCompression = 1, then it is RLE-8,
 8-bit, compressed.
If bmih[or {lpMem%}].biCompression = 2, then it is RLE-4,
 4-bit, compressed.
If bmih[or {lpMem%}].biCompression = 3, then it is BI_BITFIELDS,
 32-bit, not compressed.

The following are ALL 24-bit, with NO apparent means of determining %age.
Compression to various levels results in the same numbers each time.

If bmih[or {lpMem%}].biCompression = 1684633187, it is Compressed by
 Cinepak (iccvid.dll).
If bmih[or {lpMem%}].biCompression = 842225225, it is Compressed by
 Intel R3.2 (ir32_32.dll).
If bmih[or {lpMem%}].biCompression = 808801865, it is Compressed by
 Intel 5.06 (ir50_32.dll).
If bmih[or {lpMem%}].biCompression = 825513545, it is Compressed by
 Intel 4.4 (ir41_32.ax).

There are over 100 image codecs - I've managed to identify only these 4.  I
have one other I can identify, but haven't as yet... maybe there's a way to see
if RLE-8 was done by msrle32.dll or GFA-W(16)'s SAVEBMP routine.  I just haven't
chased down the image I was sent or the one I generated to look at this byte.
GFA-W(16)'s RLE-8 is "1", msrle32.dll's may be a larger number (doubtfull!).

I run 16-bit color, which influences several things.  I have discovered that
going thru msvideo.dll, ALL *.bmps generated with my setup are readable & can
be displayed.  I have yet to see if it is an internal identification, tho.  I
can fool some things by using a different extension, not *.bmp.

GFA-W(16)'s "save" routines are absolutely dependent on the display's color
depth!  Several formats are simply abboritions at anything but 256 colors!

I am open to suggestions & information.
<G>
TomR.

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Using msvideo.dll is a marvelous way to view ANY *.bmp.
I've found that it will NOT save a bitmap using what
would seem to be a pure save feature that shows up in
all compression selection dialogs... Full Frame.  It 
seems that *something* puts it in there, but apparently 
it isn't dibeng.dll.  Depending on the *save* routine I
try, I get a different error number but the msg is always
the same... no text is available to explain why not.

Conclusion:
We can *look* at & compress hell out of *any* *.bmp, but
we're still stuck w/ no decent 8-bit save at *any* display 
colordepth but 8-bit (Sorry, Eberhard, I *still* haven't
been able to isolate that routine).  The only GFA-W(16)
saves that are reliable are at system colordepth & 24-bit.

Well, the 1-bit works just fine, but the 4-bit sucks!!!!!
Before attacking this statement, bear in mind that this is
1999 & all new systems are now 32-bit.  Anything recent is
a minimum of 24-bit, so we are no longer nailed down to a
simple (once the most complex thing in the world!) 8-bit
display & graphics.  I use 16-bit because it gives me the
security of color seeming to be as it is in the file & I
don't have enough VRAM to handle 24-bit.

I was looking for a decent 24-bit save from msvideo.dll as
a means of cutting down the code necessary to handle _ALL_
*.bmp functions.  Such is life, I guess.
<G>
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List Member Peuapeu@aol.com wrote:
Does anyone know the email address of K. Nishita, author of the NView16.DLL?  
The documentation requires that anyone intending to distribute his software 
email him.  Unfortunately, I've tried all of the addresses in the 
documentation that comes with the DLL and none seem to be active anymore.  

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
At 05:26 PM 21/11/99 EST, you wrote:
>List Member Peuapeu@aol.com wrote:
>Does anyone know the email address of K. Nishita, author of the=
 NView16.DLL? =20
>The documentation requires that anyone intending to distribute his software=
=20
>email him.  Unfortunately, I've tried all of the addresses in the=20
>documentation that comes with the DLL and none seem to be active anymore. =
=20
>
>James Schumacher
>peuapeu@aol.com
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#URL
=A4NAME=3DNishita's Freeware Site - Home
=A4URL=3Dhttp://freeware.freeservers.com/cgi-bin/framed/2456/home.htm

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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
>From Joe Hurst
Dale Bryant
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> Hi Dale,
>
> would you be so kind to post this message to the GFA-16-ML? (I am no
longer a
> reader of it because of a heavy lack of time).
>
> --- cut ---
> Does anybody know a free DLL (32-bit!!!) that is able to play those old
> MOD-files and where to get it on the web?
>
> Thanx for any hint! - Please, do only respond with personal email because
I
> don't read/recieve this mailing list!
>
>  Joe Hurst (info@jhurst.de)
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List Member Barlik@aol.com wrote:
Format the disk on the IBM.  Set the format to match ATARI.
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List Member Jim Pennington <Jim@x-act.net> wrote:
Dale,

There is no problem with reading and writing of DS/DD diskettes between Atari and
a PC with _any_ version of DOS or Windows and any version of TOS (I won't swear
to anything with TOS 1.0!). The problem was only in formatting with versions
of TOS prior to 1.04. As Engelbert said, the problem was in writing the boot
sector. In any case, a preformatted or PC formatted diskette should work just
fine with any TOS version. I have submitted Atari-written diskettes to banks and
various governmental agencies for years and never had any problems.

Jim Pennington


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> > Does anyone recall how we got the GFA Atari files on to the IBM. It seems 
> > IBM won't read Atari disk.  I know I did but do not recall how I did it. 
>  
> Dale, 
>  
> The ATARI disk format has a different HiByte/LoByte series in three(?) 
> words of the boot sector. I don't remember exactly... 
>  
> Win3.1x refuses to read ATARI floppies, but Win95(B?) or higher does. I 
> attached a little listing that makes ATARI floppies Win 16bit readable. 
>  
> Engelbert




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From: "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com>
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Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 09:36:03 -0800

List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Does anyone recall how we got the GFA Atari files on to the IBM. It seems
IBM won't read Atari disk.  I know I did but do not recall how I did it.

Dale Bryant
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From: Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: [gfabasic] versinfo   2611xx1-
Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 17:15:46 +0000

List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
26/11/99 11:06:02 AM   versinfo   2611xx1-

Ha!
How to generate a VERSINFO *.res file to include in your GFA-W(16) 
programs at compile:

write an *.rc file as follows:

#include "dbwindll.ver"    // Version information

Run it thru Borland Resource Workshop to generate the necessary *.res 
file to include when you compile:
BRW will load the *.ver file indicated in the *.rc file & generate the 
*.res.
Below is the *.ver file for WDBin.dll.

// DBWINDLL.VER version control file
//
#include <ver.h>

#define VER_FILEDESCRIPTION_STR     "Windowed debugging support 
library"
#define VER_PRODUCTNAME_STR         "DBWin Support Library"
#define VER_INTERNALNAME_STR        "DBWIN"
#define VER_ORIGINALFILENAME_STR    "DBWIN.DLL"

#define VER_COMPANYNAME_STR         "Microsoft"
#define VER_LEGALCOPYRIGHT_STR      "Copyright \251 Microsoft Corp. 
1992\0"

#define VER_PRODUCTVERSION          1,0,0,0
#define VER_PRODUCTVERSION_STR      "1.00"

#define VER_FILETYPE                VFT_DLL
#define VER_FILESUBTYPE             VFT_UNKNOWN

#ifdef DEBUG
#define VER_FILEFLAGS               VS_FF_DEBUG
#else
#define VER_FILEFLAGS               0
#endif

#define VER_OS                      VOS_DOS_WINDOWS16

// If FILEVERSION/FILEVERSION_STR aren't defined, use PRODUCTVERSION
//
#ifndef VER_FILEVERSION
#define VER_FILEVERSION             VER_PRODUCTVERSION
#define VER_FILEVERSION_STR         VER_PRODUCTVERSION_STR
#endif

#ifdef RC_INVOKED
 
VS_VERSION_INFO VERSIONINFO 
FILEVERSION    VER_FILEVERSION
PRODUCTVERSION VER_PRODUCTVERSION
FILEFLAGSMASK  VS_FFI_FILEFLAGSMASK
FILEFLAGS      VER_FILEFLAGS
FILEOS         VER_OS
FILETYPE       VER_FILETYPE
FILESUBTYPE    VER_FILESUBTYPE
BEGIN
    BLOCK "StringFileInfo"
    BEGIN
        BLOCK "040904E4"
        BEGIN 
            VALUE "CompanyName",     VER_COMPANYNAME_STR, "\0"
            VALUE "FileDescription", VER_FILEDESCRIPTION_STR, "\0"
            VALUE "FileVersion",     VER_FILEVERSION_STR, "\0"
            VALUE "InternalName",    VER_INTERNALNAME_STR, "\0"
            VALUE "LegalCopyright",  VER_LEGALCOPYRIGHT_STR, "\0"
            VALUE "OriginalFilename",VER_ORIGINALFILENAME_STR, "\0"
            VALUE "ProductName",     VER_PRODUCTNAME_STR, "\0"
            VALUE "ProductVersion",  VER_PRODUCTVERSION_STR, "\0"
        END 

    END 
 
    BLOCK "VarFileInfo" 
    BEGIN 
        VALUE "Translation", 0x0409, 0x04E4
    END 
END 

#endif  /* RC_INVOKED */


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Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 22:27:11 +0000

List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
char # 4
TOP~0000.GIF
TOP!0000.GIF
TOP@0000.GIF
TOP#0000.GIF
TOP%0000.GIF
TOP^0000.GIF
TOP&0000.GIF
TOP(0000.GIF
TOP)0000.GIF
TOP_0000.GIF
TOP`0000.GIF
TOP-0000.GIF
TOP'0000.GIF
TOP{0000.GIF
TOP}0000.GIF

plus all numeric & all alpha (case insensative in Win3.1)
Win3.1 makes all UCase, Win95+ allows mixing case
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List Member gunnar.boenicke@t-online.de (Gunnar Boenicke) wrote:
Hi Dale,

i think it was very easy, because the ATARI-3.1/4-Floppy-Format is exact the
same as IBM. You must mayby set the IBM-Bios from 1.4MB down to 720KB. I
stored my GFA on ATARI as *.lst ("Normal text"). Use the atari 720KB disk,
not the IBM 1.4MB disk.
Atari dont read the bigger disk, but IBM read the small disk.

That is, what my memorys tell me. It is now 9 years ago.

--------------------

I received the GFA-16-Newsletter 156 from you on 29 Nov 99, but i did not
get the GFA-32-Newsletter 5. The latest GFA-32-NL what i received was number
4. Why?

--------------------

I know, i am very late, but i hope you had a happy thanksgiving. In germany
thanksgiving is not a important day.

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Where do you live in the USA?

gunnar


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> Does anyone recall how we got the GFA Atari files on to the IBM. It seems
> IBM won't read Atari disk.  I know I did but do not recall how I did it.

Dale,

The ATARI disk format has a different HiByte/LoByte series in three(?)
words of the boot sector. I don't remember exactly...

Win3.1x refuses to read ATARI floppies, but Win95(B?) or higher does. I
attached a little listing that makes ATARI floppies Win 16bit readable.

Engelbert
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Thanks. I finally recalled how I did it.

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> Format the disk on the IBM.  Set the format to match ATARI.
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Thanks,
Nine years ago. How time flies. What fond memories

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> List Member gunnar.boenicke@t-online.de (Gunnar Boenicke) wrote:
> Hi Dale,
>
> i think it was very easy, because the ATARI-3.1/4-Floppy-Format is exact
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> same as IBM. You must mayby set the IBM-Bios from 1.4MB down to 720KB. I
> stored my GFA on ATARI as *.lst ("Normal text"). Use the atari 720KB disk,
> not the IBM 1.4MB disk.
> Atari dont read the bigger disk, but IBM read the small disk.
>
> That is, what my memorys tell me. It is now 9 years ago.
>
> --------------------
>
> I received the GFA-16-Newsletter 156 from you on 29 Nov 99, but i did not
> get the GFA-32-Newsletter 5. The latest GFA-32-NL what i received was
number
> 4. Why?
>
> --------------------
>
> I know, i am very late, but i hope you had a happy thanksgiving. In
germany
> thanksgiving is not a important day.
>
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> Where do you live in the USA?
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Hi Engelbert,
Is ST2DOS a DOS or Windows listing. I just want to be sure as I will
probably make it available to download if I have your permission.  Most
people that use GFA seem to have switched from the Atari.
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> > Does anyone recall how we got the GFA Atari files on to the IBM. It
seems
> > IBM won't read Atari disk.  I know I did but do not recall how I did it.
>
> Dale,
>
> The ATARI disk format has a different HiByte/LoByte series in three(?)
> words of the boot sector. I don't remember exactly...
>
> Win3.1x refuses to read ATARI floppies, but Win95(B?) or higher does. I
> attached a little listing that makes ATARI floppies Win 16bit readable.
>
> Engelbert



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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Hi Gunnar,
Not an important day?
A good GFA programmer not thankful?
Thankfull for your health, family, job and the country that you reside in
I am thankful for YOU.

I live in Hermosa Beach, California which is about 15 freeway miles from Los
Angeles where we have more cars than people.
1531 Silver St.
90254
310-374-9818
3 grown children, 9 grandchildren and married.
[you didn't want to know all this, did you?(G)]


Dale Bryant
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> List Member gunnar.boenicke@t-online.de (Gunnar Boenicke) wrote:
> Hi Dale,
>
> i think it was very easy, because the ATARI-3.1/4-Floppy-Format is exact
the
> same as IBM. You must mayby set the IBM-Bios from 1.4MB down to 720KB. I
> stored my GFA on ATARI as *.lst ("Normal text"). Use the atari 720KB disk,
> not the IBM 1.4MB disk.
> Atari dont read the bigger disk, but IBM read the small disk.
>
> That is, what my memorys tell me. It is now 9 years ago.
>
> --------------------
>
> I received the GFA-16-Newsletter 156 from you on 29 Nov 99, but i did not
> get the GFA-32-Newsletter 5. The latest GFA-32-NL what i received was
number
> 4. Why?
>
> --------------------
>
> I know, i am very late, but i hope you had a happy thanksgiving. In
germany
> thanksgiving is not a important day.
>
> ---------------------
>
> Where do you live in the USA?
>
> gunnar
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Thanks Jim.  I had a email from someone saying they could not get the PC to
read the Atari disk.  Finally he said it was VB that would not read the
Atari list files.

Dale Bryant
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> List Member Jim Pennington <Jim@x-act.net> wrote:
> Dale,
>
> There is no problem with reading and writing of DS/DD diskettes between
Atari and
> a PC with _any_ version of DOS or Windows and any version of TOS (I won't
swear
> to anything with TOS 1.0!). The problem was only in formatting with
versions
> of TOS prior to 1.04. As Engelbert said, the problem was in writing the
boot
> sector. In any case, a preformatted or PC formatted diskette should work
just
> fine with any TOS version. I have submitted Atari-written diskettes to
banks and
> various governmental agencies for years and never had any problems.
>
> Jim Pennington
>
>
> > List Member Engelbert van Loock <Engelbert.v@n.loock.com> wrote:
> > Dies ist eine mehrteilige Nachricht im MIME-Format.
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> > > Does anyone recall how we got the GFA Atari files on to the IBM. It
seems
> > > IBM won't read Atari disk.  I know I did but do not recall how I did
it.
> >
> > Dale,
> >
> > The ATARI disk format has a different HiByte/LoByte series in three(?)
> > words of the boot sector. I don't remember exactly...
> >
> > Win3.1x refuses to read ATARI floppies, but Win95(B?) or higher does. I
> > attached a little listing that makes ATARI floppies Win 16bit readable.
> >
> > Engelbert
>
>
>
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List Member "Andras Szalay" <a.szalay@mail.matav.hu> wrote:
>>List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
>>Does anyone recall how we got the GFA Atari files on to the IBM. It seems
>>IBM won't read Atari disk.  I know I did but do not recall how I did it.

Dale,
first of all you must have some floppy disks of the old single density
type (720 kBytes), which has a square hole only on one side not on both.
If I did not have a few dozen of them, I do not know how would I get one
today...
The trick is that it must be formatted on the PC, and not on the ATARI;
in this case both can read and write it. If you format it on ATARI then the 
PC can neither read nor write it. I think when you format it on the PC
you must use some kind of options, probably 
format a: /f:720
but I am not quite sure if it is correct; I never formatted any floppy new
in the last 8 years, I use the old ones that I have.

Regards
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Thanks Andras.
Dale Bryant
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> List Member "Andras Szalay" <a.szalay@mail.matav.hu> wrote:
> >>List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> >>Does anyone recall how we got the GFA Atari files on to the IBM. It
seems
> >>IBM won't read Atari disk.  I know I did but do not recall how I did it.
>
> Dale,
> first of all you must have some floppy disks of the old single density
> type (720 kBytes), which has a square hole only on one side not on both.
> If I did not have a few dozen of them, I do not know how would I get one
> today...
> The trick is that it must be formatted on the PC, and not on the ATARI;
> in this case both can read and write it. If you format it on ATARI then
the
> PC can neither read nor write it. I think when you format it on the PC
> you must use some kind of options, probably
> format a: /f:720
> but I am not quite sure if it is correct; I never formatted any floppy new
> in the last 8 years, I use the old ones that I have.
>
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
What color are your eyes? :p
TomR.


At 09:46 AM 30/11/99 -0800, you wrote:
>List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
>Hi Gunnar,
>Not an important day?
>A good GFA programmer not thankful?
>Thankfull for your health, family, job and the country that you reside in
>I am thankful for YOU.
>
>I live in Hermosa Beach, California which is about 15 freeway miles from Los
>Angeles where we have more cars than people.
>1531 Silver St.
>90254
>310-374-9818
>3 grown children, 9 grandchildren and married.
>[you didn't want to know all this, did you?(G)]
>
>
>Dale Bryant
>http://gfawhelp.gfa.net
>adbryant@msn.com
>adbryant@gfa.net
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Gunnar Boenicke" <gunnar.boenicke@t-online.de>
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>Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 1999 7:13 AM
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>
>
>> List Member gunnar.boenicke@t-online.de (Gunnar Boenicke) wrote:
>> Hi Dale,
>>
>> i think it was very easy, because the ATARI-3.1/4-Floppy-Format is exact
>the
>> same as IBM. You must mayby set the IBM-Bios from 1.4MB down to 720KB. I
>> stored my GFA on ATARI as *.lst ("Normal text"). Use the atari 720KB disk,
>> not the IBM 1.4MB disk.
>> Atari dont read the bigger disk, but IBM read the small disk.
>>
>> That is, what my memorys tell me. It is now 9 years ago.
>>
>> --------------------
>>
>> I received the GFA-16-Newsletter 156 from you on 29 Nov 99, but i did not
>> get the GFA-32-Newsletter 5. The latest GFA-32-NL what i received was
>number
>> 4. Why?
>>
>> --------------------
>>
>> I know, i am very late, but i hope you had a happy thanksgiving. In
>germany
>> thanksgiving is not a important day.
>>
>> ---------------------
>>
>> Where do you live in the USA?
>>
>> gunnar
>>
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
mlm !  I never ever *saw* an Atari!
<G>
TomR.

At 09:37 AM 30/11/99 -0800, you wrote:
>List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
>Hi Engelbert,
>Is ST2DOS a DOS or Windows listing. I just want to be sure as I will
>probably make it available to download if I have your permission.  Most
>people that use GFA seem to have switched from the Atari.
>Dale Bryant
>http://gfawhelp.gfa.net
>adbryant@msn.com
>adbryant@gfa.net
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Engelbert van Loock" <Engelbert.v@n.Loock.com>
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>
>
>> > Does anyone recall how we got the GFA Atari files on to the IBM. It
>seems
>> > IBM won't read Atari disk.  I know I did but do not recall how I did it.
>>
>> Dale,
>>
>> The ATARI disk format has a different HiByte/LoByte series in three(?)
>> words of the boot sector. I don't remember exactly...
>>
>> Win3.1x refuses to read ATARI floppies, but Win95(B?) or higher does. I
>> attached a little listing that makes ATARI floppies Win 16bit readable.
>>
>> Engelbert
>
>
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List Member Engelbert van Loock <Engelbert.v@n.loock.com> wrote:
> Is ST2DOS a DOS or Windows listing. I just want to be sure as I will
> probably make it available to download if I have your permission.  Most
> people that use GFA seem to have switched from the Atari.

Dale,

it is a Windows listing. Feel free to make it available to download.

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List Member Engelbert van Loock <Engelbert.v@n.loock.com> wrote:
According to the Atari floppy format discussion:

Atari STs always read DOS formated floppies and the higher TOS versions
write DOS readable format. A disk formated on a DOS-PC can be used with
every TOS version.

The listing I broadcasted before does not only change the floppy's
format for using it with both systems from then on, but it changes the
format in a way that preserves the stored data. So the original Atari
files can be read with a 16bit PC after the conversion.

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Just out of curiosity, has anybody managed to make a *.res file
with these things & made it work in an *.exe?  I have failed.

Bombs the *.exe every time.

If anybody has done it successfully, I'd appreciate seeing the
source for it.

I can turn monsterous *.gif animations into smaller *.bmp animations
but it seems that I have to leave the *.bmps out of the *.exe.  This
should be possible to do, but at the moment, given the condition I
am in, it isn't going well at all.

I have NOT tried putting them in a *.dll yet.

Another thought occurs to me... I am, perhaps, the only one other than
Roland interested in working with these?

<G>
TomR.

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List Member "Roland Walter" <roland@rowalt.de> wrote:
> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Just out of curiosity, has anybody managed to make a *.res file
> with these things & made it work in an *.exe?  I have failed.
> 
> Bombs the *.exe every time.

The following way must work with 100% guarantee:
- Put BMP without BITMAPFILEHEADER into user defined resource
- FindResource() + LoadResource() + LockResource()
- Show with DrawDibDraw()
- Free with UnlockResource() + FreeResource()

Success?
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List Member Vogel Michael <vo@schoeller.at> wrote:
Hello, 

  I wrote a screen saver for showing a bitmap, but when releasing the memory
the GDI crashes (sometimes) !
  So I removed one line (see below, marked with /////*******/////) and it
works !
  Why ??

  Can anyone help ?

Michael



$DESCR SCRNSAVE: La macchina...
$Name Puch500
$#& Fast
$FUNC%
$FOR+
$CHKA-
$OPTION Z-
$OPTION 0-

DIBHnd& = 0
DIBPal& = 0
//DIBNr2& = 0
DIBNr3& = 0

TYPE RECT:
- WORD left
- WORD top
- WORD right
- WORD bottom
ENDTYPE
RECT: rect.

TYPE BITMAPINFOHEADER:
- LONG bSize
- LONG bWidth
- LONG bHeight
- WORD bPlanes
- WORD bBitCnt
- LONG bCompr
- LONG bSizeImg
- LONG bXPels
- LONG bYPels
- LONG bClrUsed
- LONG bClrImportant
ENDTYPE
BITMAPINFOHEADER: bInf.

TYPE RGBQUAD:
- BYTE rgbBlue
- BYTE rgbGreen
- BYTE rgbRed
- BYTE rgbReserved
ENDTYPE

TYPE PALETTEENTRY:
- BYTE  pRed
- BYTE  pGreen
- BYTE  pBlue
- BYTE  pFlags
ENDTYPE

TYPE LOGPALETTE:
- WORD pVersion
- WORD pEntries
ENDTYPE

IF INSTR(UPPER$(_dosCmd$),"/C") > 0
  DIALOG #10,0,0,0,0,"Solo per te...", WS_SYSMENU | DS_MODALFRAME,16,"Helv"
    CONTROL "Ciao...",900,"static",$0,12,15,350,40
    CONTROL "",900,"static",$10000006,10,42,340,1
    CONTROL " &Ok ",1,"button",$10010001,270,62,80,28
  ENDDIALOG
  DLG FILL 10,RGB(192,192,192)
  SHOWDIALOG #10
  ~SetWindowPos(DLG(10),$ffff,140,120,370,130, SWP_NOACTIVATE) //
HWND_TOPMOST
  ~SetFocus(DLGITEM(10,1))
  DO
    GETEVENT
  UNTIL _Mess = WM_COMMAND AND (_wParam = IDOK OR  _wParam = IDCANCEL)
  CLOSEDIALOG #10
  EDIT
ENDIF
'
ExeHandle& = GetModuleHandle(_INSTANCE)
x_& = _X
y_& = _Y
TITLEW #1,"Solo per te..."
OPENW #1,0,0,0,0,0
~SetWindowPos(WIN(1),$ffff,-1,-1,x_& + 2,y_& + 2, SWP_NOACTIVATE) //
HWND_TOPMOST
CLS 0
HIDEM

CB WIN(1),WM_SYSCOMMAND,SysComProc()

truecolor& = (_C > 256) OR (_C = 0)

sx& = 280
sy& = 60

rect.left = 0
rect.top = 0
rect.right = sx&
rect.bottom = sy&

y_& = _Y
x_& = _X
px& = 20
py& = y_& - 84
'
//bmp1& = LOADBMP("e:\work\1.bmp")
//bmp2& = LOADBMP("e:\work\2.bmp")

@DIBload(_DC(1),"A")
//DIBHnd& = LoadBitmap(ExeHandle&,"A")
//DIBNr2& = LoadBitmap(ExeHandle&,"B")
'

dc_virtuell& = MEMDC(_DC(1))
bm_virtuell& = CreateCompatibleBitmap(_DC(1),sx&,sy&)
bk_virtuell& = SelectObject(dc_virtuell&,bm_virtuell&)

SETDC dc_virtuell&  // Ausgabe auf virtuelle Seite umleiten...
GRAPHMODE ,TRANSPARENT
GETFONT SYSTEM_FONT
FONT "Arial",WEIGHT 700,HEIGHT 64, WIDTH 32 TO fnt&
SETFONT fnt&
SETDC _DC(1)



SETTIMER 1,1,1000
quit& = 0
DO
  GETEVENT
  SELECT _Mess
  CASE WM_PAINT
    i& = 0
    PUT _X - 400,_Y - 182,DIBHnd&
    IF DIBNr3& = 0
      GET px&,py&,px& + sx&,py& + sy&,DIBNr3&
    ENDIF

  CASE WM_TIMER
    SETDC dc_virtuell&  // Ausgabe auf virtuelle Seite umleiten...
    PUT 0,0,DIBNr3&
    t$ = TIME$
    @ColorX(0,0,0)
    DRAWTEXT 3,3,sx&,sy&,t$,DT_LEFT
    DRAWTEXT 0,0,sx&,sy&,t$,DT_LEFT
    f1& ++
    f2& = SHL(ABS((f1& AND 31) - 15),3)

    @ColorX(255,127 + f2&,127 + f2&)
    DRAWTEXT 1,1,sx&,sy&,t$,DT_LEFT
    SETDC _DC(1)
    ~BitBlt(_DC(1),px&,py&,sx&,sy&,dc_virtuell&,0,0,SRCCOPY)

  CASE WM_MOUSEMOVE
    INC quit&

  CASE WM_CHAR
    quit& = 99

  ENDSELECT

LOOP UNTIL quit& > 5

//FREEBMP DIBNr2&
FREEBMP DIBNr3&

bk_virtuell& = SelectObject(dc_virtuell&,bk_virtuell&)
~DeleteObject(bk_virtuell&)
FREEDC dc_virtuell&

SETFONT SYSTEM_FONT
FREEFONT fnt&

~DeleteObject(DIBHnd&)
//~DeleteObject(DIBPal&) // bei Einsetzen der Funktion gibt's hin- und
wieder GDI-Fehler !!!     /////*******/////
~MFREE(pal%)

CLOSEW #1
SHOWM

PROCEDURE DIBload(dc&,bName$)
  LOCAL bColn&, bRGB%, bData&, bLDat%, bBits%
  bName$ = bName$ + CHR$(0)

  bData& = LoadResource(_INSTANCE, FindResource(_INSTANCE,
bName$,RT_BITMAP))
  bLDat% = LockResource(bData&)

  bColn&        = {bLDat%}.bClrUsed
  bInf.bWidth   = {bLDat%}.bWidth
  bInf.bHeight  = {bLDat%}.bHeight
  bInf.bClrUsed = {bLDat%}.bClrUsed
  bInf.bSizeImg = {bLDat%}.bSizeImg

  bRGB% = bLDat% + {bLDat%}.bSize

  pal% = MALLOC(LEN(LOGPALETTE:) + bColn& * LEN(PALETTEENTRY:))
  {pal%}.pVersion = &H300
  {pal%}.pEntries = bColn&

  FOR t% = 0 TO PRED(bColn&)
    {pal% + 4 + t% * 4}.pRed   = {bRGB% + t% * 4}.rgbRed
    {pal% + 4 + t% * 4}.pGreen = {bRGB% + t% * 4}.rgbGreen
    {pal% + 4 + t% * 4}.pBlue  = {bRGB% + t% * 4}.rgbBlue
    {pal% + 4 + t% * 4}.pFlags = 0
  NEXT t%

  DIBPal& = CreatePalette(pal%)

  ~SelectPalette(dc&,DIBPal&,FALSE)
  ~RealizePalette(dc&)
  bBits% = bLDat% + {bLDat%}.bSize + bColn& * LEN(RGBQUAD:)
  DIBHnd& = CreateDIBitmap(dc&, bLDat%, CBM_INIT, bBits%,bLDat%,
DIB_RGB_COLORS)

  ~UnlockResource(bData&)
  ~FreeResource(bData&)
RETURN
PROCEDURE ColorX(r&,g&,b&)
  IF truecolor&
    RGBCOLOR RGB(r&,g&,b&)
  ELSE
    COLOR GETNEAREST(r&,g&,b&)
  ENDIF
RETURN
PROCEDURE SysComProc(HWin&,Mess&,WParam&,LParam%)
  TRY
    RETVAL 1
  CATCH
RETURN

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List Member "Schoenherr, Walter" <Walter.Schoenherr@PZN-Wiesloch.de> wrote:
Hmmm, passieren die Fehler im 16 Bit color modus und im 256 Bit color
modus oder nur im 16 bit color modus?

-----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Vogel Michael [mailto:vo@schoeller.at]
Gesendet am: Freitag, 3. Dezember 1999 11:02
An: 'gfabasic@gfa.net'
Betreff: [gfabasic] Specialists ?

List Member Vogel Michael <vo@schoeller.at> wrote:
Hello,=20

  I wrote a screen saver for showing a bitmap, but when releasing the
memory
the GDI crashes (sometimes) !
  So I removed one line (see below, marked with /////*******/////) and
it
works !
  Why ??

  Can anyone help ?

Michael



$DESCR SCRNSAVE: La macchina...
$Name Puch500
$#& Fast
$FUNC%
$FOR+
$CHKA-
$OPTION Z-
$OPTION 0-

DIBHnd& =3D 0
DIBPal& =3D 0
//DIBNr2& =3D 0
DIBNr3& =3D 0

TYPE RECT:
- WORD left
- WORD top
- WORD right
- WORD bottom
ENDTYPE
RECT: rect.

TYPE BITMAPINFOHEADER:
- LONG bSize
- LONG bWidth
- LONG bHeight
- WORD bPlanes
- WORD bBitCnt
- LONG bCompr
- LONG bSizeImg
- LONG bXPels
- LONG bYPels
- LONG bClrUsed
- LONG bClrImportant
ENDTYPE
BITMAPINFOHEADER: bInf.

TYPE RGBQUAD:
- BYTE rgbBlue
- BYTE rgbGreen
- BYTE rgbRed
- BYTE rgbReserved
ENDTYPE

TYPE PALETTEENTRY:
- BYTE  pRed
- BYTE  pGreen
- BYTE  pBlue
- BYTE  pFlags
ENDTYPE

TYPE LOGPALETTE:
- WORD pVersion
- WORD pEntries
ENDTYPE

IF INSTR(UPPER$(_dosCmd$),"/C") > 0
  DIALOG #10,0,0,0,0,"Solo per te...", WS_SYSMENU |
DS_MODALFRAME,16,"Helv"
    CONTROL "Ciao...",900,"static",$0,12,15,350,40
    CONTROL "",900,"static",$10000006,10,42,340,1
    CONTROL " &Ok ",1,"button",$10010001,270,62,80,28
  ENDDIALOG
  DLG FILL 10,RGB(192,192,192)
  SHOWDIALOG #10
  ~SetWindowPos(DLG(10),$ffff,140,120,370,130, SWP_NOACTIVATE) //
HWND_TOPMOST
  ~SetFocus(DLGITEM(10,1))
  DO
    GETEVENT
  UNTIL _Mess =3D WM_COMMAND AND (_wParam =3D IDOK OR  _wParam =3D =
IDCANCEL)
  CLOSEDIALOG #10
  EDIT
ENDIF
'
ExeHandle& =3D GetModuleHandle(_INSTANCE)
x_& =3D _X
y_& =3D _Y
TITLEW #1,"Solo per te..."
OPENW #1,0,0,0,0,0
~SetWindowPos(WIN(1),$ffff,-1,-1,x_& + 2,y_& + 2, SWP_NOACTIVATE) //
HWND_TOPMOST
CLS 0
HIDEM

CB WIN(1),WM_SYSCOMMAND,SysComProc()

truecolor& =3D (_C > 256) OR (_C =3D 0)

sx& =3D 280
sy& =3D 60

rect.left =3D 0
rect.top =3D 0
rect.right =3D sx&
rect.bottom =3D sy&

y_& =3D _Y
x_& =3D _X
px& =3D 20
py& =3D y_& - 84
'
//bmp1& =3D LOADBMP("e:\work\1.bmp")
//bmp2& =3D LOADBMP("e:\work\2.bmp")

@DIBload(_DC(1),"A")
//DIBHnd& =3D LoadBitmap(ExeHandle&,"A")
//DIBNr2& =3D LoadBitmap(ExeHandle&,"B")
'

dc_virtuell& =3D MEMDC(_DC(1))
bm_virtuell& =3D CreateCompatibleBitmap(_DC(1),sx&,sy&)
bk_virtuell& =3D SelectObject(dc_virtuell&,bm_virtuell&)

SETDC dc_virtuell&  // Ausgabe auf virtuelle Seite umleiten...
GRAPHMODE ,TRANSPARENT
GETFONT SYSTEM_FONT
FONT "Arial",WEIGHT 700,HEIGHT 64, WIDTH 32 TO fnt&
SETFONT fnt&
SETDC _DC(1)



SETTIMER 1,1,1000
quit& =3D 0
DO
  GETEVENT
  SELECT _Mess
  CASE WM_PAINT
    i& =3D 0
    PUT _X - 400,_Y - 182,DIBHnd&
    IF DIBNr3& =3D 0
      GET px&,py&,px& + sx&,py& + sy&,DIBNr3&
    ENDIF

  CASE WM_TIMER
    SETDC dc_virtuell&  // Ausgabe auf virtuelle Seite umleiten...
    PUT 0,0,DIBNr3&
    t$ =3D TIME$
    @ColorX(0,0,0)
    DRAWTEXT 3,3,sx&,sy&,t$,DT_LEFT
    DRAWTEXT 0,0,sx&,sy&,t$,DT_LEFT
    f1& ++
    f2& =3D SHL(ABS((f1& AND 31) - 15),3)

    @ColorX(255,127 + f2&,127 + f2&)
    DRAWTEXT 1,1,sx&,sy&,t$,DT_LEFT
    SETDC _DC(1)
    ~BitBlt(_DC(1),px&,py&,sx&,sy&,dc_virtuell&,0,0,SRCCOPY)

  CASE WM_MOUSEMOVE
    INC quit&

  CASE WM_CHAR
    quit& =3D 99

  ENDSELECT

LOOP UNTIL quit& > 5

//FREEBMP DIBNr2&
FREEBMP DIBNr3&

bk_virtuell& =3D SelectObject(dc_virtuell&,bk_virtuell&)
~DeleteObject(bk_virtuell&)
FREEDC dc_virtuell&

SETFONT SYSTEM_FONT
FREEFONT fnt&

~DeleteObject(DIBHnd&)
//~DeleteObject(DIBPal&) // bei Einsetzen der Funktion gibt's hin- und
wieder GDI-Fehler !!!     /////*******/////
~MFREE(pal%)

CLOSEW #1
SHOWM

PROCEDURE DIBload(dc&,bName$)
  LOCAL bColn&, bRGB%, bData&, bLDat%, bBits%
  bName$ =3D bName$ + CHR$(0)

  bData& =3D LoadResource(_INSTANCE, FindResource(_INSTANCE,
bName$,RT_BITMAP))
  bLDat% =3D LockResource(bData&)

  bColn&        =3D {bLDat%}.bClrUsed
  bInf.bWidth   =3D {bLDat%}.bWidth
  bInf.bHeight  =3D {bLDat%}.bHeight
  bInf.bClrUsed =3D {bLDat%}.bClrUsed
  bInf.bSizeImg =3D {bLDat%}.bSizeImg

  bRGB% =3D bLDat% + {bLDat%}.bSize

  pal% =3D MALLOC(LEN(LOGPALETTE:) + bColn& * LEN(PALETTEENTRY:))
  {pal%}.pVersion =3D &H300
  {pal%}.pEntries =3D bColn&

  FOR t% =3D 0 TO PRED(bColn&)
    {pal% + 4 + t% * 4}.pRed   =3D {bRGB% + t% * 4}.rgbRed
    {pal% + 4 + t% * 4}.pGreen =3D {bRGB% + t% * 4}.rgbGreen
    {pal% + 4 + t% * 4}.pBlue  =3D {bRGB% + t% * 4}.rgbBlue
    {pal% + 4 + t% * 4}.pFlags =3D 0
  NEXT t%

  DIBPal& =3D CreatePalette(pal%)

  ~SelectPalette(dc&,DIBPal&,FALSE)
  ~RealizePalette(dc&)
  bBits% =3D bLDat% + {bLDat%}.bSize + bColn& * LEN(RGBQUAD:)
  DIBHnd& =3D CreateDIBitmap(dc&, bLDat%, CBM_INIT, bBits%,bLDat%,
DIB_RGB_COLORS)

  ~UnlockResource(bData&)
  ~FreeResource(bData&)
RETURN
PROCEDURE ColorX(r&,g&,b&)
  IF truecolor&
    RGBCOLOR RGB(r&,g&,b&)
  ELSE
    COLOR GETNEAREST(r&,g&,b&)
  ENDIF
RETURN
PROCEDURE SysComProc(HWin&,Mess&,WParam&,LParam%)
  TRY
    RETVAL 1
  CATCH
RETURN

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List Member "Russell Hayward" <russ@softhome.net> wrote:

Hi everybody,

I've never had any problems using ST disks (DD or HD) on the PC when they
have been formatted from the ST desktop ('Format' on the 'File' menu). I've
tried disks formatted under TOSs 1.4, 1.6, 1.62 and 2.06. I've also been
able to read 800K, and larger, disks using Windows (up to track 79). I guess
I've just been lucky.

Ta'ra,
Russell Hayward

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Hey, Tiger, what is

GFA-BASIC Runtime Error -012
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
out of memory




At 12:17 PM 13/12/99 -0800, you wrote:
>List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
>Hey, Tiger, what is
>
>GFA-BASIC Runtime Error -012
>Dale
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Hurtin to high hell!
Nerve in my back.  Apt w/ neurologist 23 Dec.
Makes fightin GFA-W(16) no fun.
<GROAN>
TomR.



At 12:35 PM 13/12/99 -0800, you wrote:
>List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
>When the tiger doesn't growl on this list it ruins my entire day. Good
>grief.
>Tom, hope you are OK.
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Tom, I  am sorry to hear that. I am fighting a blood clot in my right leg.
Doctor says too much time on computer.  That's great, I can't get everything
done without it but have to curtail activity for a while.
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From: "Tom Record" <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net>
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Sent: Monday, December 13, 1999 1:21 PM
Subject: Re: [gfabasic] TIGER


> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Hurtin to high hell!
> Nerve in my back.  Apt w/ neurologist 23 Dec.
> Makes fightin GFA-W(16) no fun.
> <GROAN>
> TomR.
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> At 12:35 PM 13/12/99 -0800, you wrote:
> >List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> >When the tiger doesn't growl on this list it ruins my entire day. Good
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> >Tom, hope you are OK.
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Dale
Most regretable to hear.  My sympathy, my empathy!
My being run over made it necessary to exercize, but expenses made it
necessary to move back into an apartment.  The arrangement here is
not to my liking - being on a gentle slope, every few yards a step or
four are encountered.  My nemisis!  No handrails make it necessary to
carry at least a cane to negotiate them.  There are only maniacs in the 
drives!  I can go up stairs left foot first, but going down it is right
foot first.  Of course, I always arrive at that point on the wrong foot!

The next complex west of us is considerably uphill & has a very nice
point in the corner of their parking to sit & watch traffic.  They get
antsy at 2 or 3 in the morning & call the cops.  South of us is a small
mall - dead after midnight except for trash & delivery trucks.  We are
in a complex of complexes, so there is plenty of activity to watch at
2 or 3 in the morning.  The vantage point is a 250-300 yard walk - about
my limit, non-stop.  I just get rested & the cops start checking me out.

I've gained weight after the primary loss after the run-over... I'm up
to 226# - I prefer being 180-190.

Most of my waking time (29 hrs/day, 9 days/week) is spent at the computer.
The only thing I ever found to kill the pinched-nerve pain was removed from
the market - "too much caffine".  Anything else means an upset stomach of I
take enough to feel relief from the nerve.  At my age, there seems to be no
end to the sources for unrelieveable pain.

I suspect that now we've bored & irritated the list to the fullest - see ya
later in my thots.
<G>
TomR.


At 01:58 PM 13/12/99 -0800, you wrote:
>List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
>Tom, I  am sorry to hear that. I am fighting a blood clot in my right leg.
>Doctor says too much time on computer.  That's great, I can't get everything
>done without it but have to curtail activity for a while.
>Dale Bryant
>http://gfawhelp.gfa.net
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>> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> Hurtin to high hell!
>> Nerve in my back.  Apt w/ neurologist 23 Dec.
>> Makes fightin GFA-W(16) no fun.
>> <GROAN>
>> TomR.
>>
>>
>>
>> At 12:35 PM 13/12/99 -0800, you wrote:
>> >List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
>> >When the tiger doesn't growl on this list it ruins my entire day. Good
>> >grief.
>> >Tom, hope you are OK.
>> >Dale Bryant
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Thanks James. You should have received one by now.
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
HI Tom,
Why worry about boring others. We are not the only ones with health
problems.
Dale Bryant
http://gfawhelp.gfa.net
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> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Dale
> Most regretable to hear.  My sympathy, my empathy!
> My being run over made it necessary to exercize, but expenses made it
> necessary to move back into an apartment.  The arrangement here is
> not to my liking - being on a gentle slope, every few yards a step or
> four are encountered.  My nemisis!  No handrails make it necessary to
> carry at least a cane to negotiate them.  There are only maniacs in the
> drives!  I can go up stairs left foot first, but going down it is right
> foot first.  Of course, I always arrive at that point on the wrong foot!
>
> The next complex west of us is considerably uphill & has a very nice
> point in the corner of their parking to sit & watch traffic.  They get
> antsy at 2 or 3 in the morning & call the cops.  South of us is a small
> mall - dead after midnight except for trash & delivery trucks.  We are
> in a complex of complexes, so there is plenty of activity to watch at
> 2 or 3 in the morning.  The vantage point is a 250-300 yard walk - about
> my limit, non-stop.  I just get rested & the cops start checking me out.
>
> I've gained weight after the primary loss after the run-over... I'm up
> to 226# - I prefer being 180-190.
>
> Most of my waking time (29 hrs/day, 9 days/week) is spent at the computer.
> The only thing I ever found to kill the pinched-nerve pain was removed
from
> the market - "too much caffine".  Anything else means an upset stomach of
I
> take enough to feel relief from the nerve.  At my age, there seems to be
no
> end to the sources for unrelieveable pain.
>
> I suspect that now we've bored & irritated the list to the fullest - see
ya
> later in my thots.
> <G>
> TomR.
>
>
> At 01:58 PM 13/12/99 -0800, you wrote:
> >List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> >Tom, I  am sorry to hear that. I am fighting a blood clot in my right
leg.
> >Doctor says too much time on computer.  That's great, I can't get
everything
> >done without it but have to curtail activity for a while.
> >Dale Bryant
> >http://gfawhelp.gfa.net
> >adbryant@msn.com
> >adbryant@gfa.net
> >----- Original Message -----
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> >To: <gfabasic@gfa.net>
> >Sent: Monday, December 13, 1999 1:21 PM
> >Subject: Re: [gfabasic] TIGER
> >
> >
> >> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net>
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> >> Hurtin to high hell!
> >> Nerve in my back.  Apt w/ neurologist 23 Dec.
> >> Makes fightin GFA-W(16) no fun.
> >> <GROAN>
> >> TomR.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> At 12:35 PM 13/12/99 -0800, you wrote:
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> >> >grief.
> >> >Tom, hope you are OK.
> >> >Dale Bryant
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
  l% = LOF(#1)
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BLOAD has a 64K limit... what is BGET's limit?  It is loading only very
small images.  Crashes w/ Peek,Poke,Address error.

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>BLOAD has a 64K limit... what is BGET's limit?<

Hi Tom,

Use the Huge  functions from Help Page Library.

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List Member "Sjaak Aarnoutse" <aarnouts@zeelandnet.nl> wrote:
Hi Tom,

What are you trying to do with the Shift Right  (>>) in the next line?

>   DIM a&(l% >> 1)

This way you make sure the reserved space will often be one byte 
to small for your file.  example   15 >> 1   gives 7

Try  DIM a&((l% >> 1)+1) 



met vriendelijke groet,

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Sjaak
Thanks for responding.  That came w/ the routine I'm using to print
*.bmps.  I'm trying to convert all over to using a different method
of reading the header, but I don't understand all I think I know about
this.  As I understand it, this thing picks up only the image data from 
the file, ignoring the EOF()/LOF() & header.

I see a couple of other responses - probably the same question <G>.
Thanks again to all who responded.
<G>
TomR.


At 11:21 PM 14/12/99 +0100, you wrote:
>List Member "Sjaak Aarnoutse" <aarnouts@zeelandnet.nl> wrote:
>Hi Tom,
>
>What are you trying to do with the Shift Right  (>>) in the next line?
>
>>   DIM a&(l% >> 1)
>
>This way you make sure the reserved space will often be one byte 
>to small for your file.  example   15 >> 1   gives 7
>
>Try  DIM a&((l% >> 1)+1) 
>
>
>
>met vriendelijke groet,
>
>Sjaak Aarnoutse
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Dale
10-4, FrontDoor!
There's sure to be a purist or two among us & it *does* beat lying
on the floor, kicking & screaming <G>.  Hell, I can't even do the
kicking part <G>.  If I kick anything (& HOPEFULLY that includes "The 
Bucket", I do it in slow motion!
<G>
TomR.



At 10:42 AM 14/12/99 -0800, you wrote:
>List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
>HI Tom,
>Why worry about boring others. We are not the only ones with health
>problems.
>Dale Bryant
>http://gfawhelp.gfa.net
>adbryant@msn.com
>adbryant@gfa.net
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>From: "Tom Record" <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net>
>To: <gfabasic@gfa.net>
>Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 1999 1:09 AM
>Subject: Re: [gfabasic] TIGER
>
>
>> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> Dale
>> Most regretable to hear.  My sympathy, my empathy!
>> My being run over made it necessary to exercize, but expenses made it
>> necessary to move back into an apartment.  The arrangement here is
>> not to my liking - being on a gentle slope, every few yards a step or
>> four are encountered.  My nemisis!  No handrails make it necessary to
>> carry at least a cane to negotiate them.  There are only maniacs in the
>> drives!  I can go up stairs left foot first, but going down it is right
>> foot first.  Of course, I always arrive at that point on the wrong foot!
>>
>> The next complex west of us is considerably uphill & has a very nice
>> point in the corner of their parking to sit & watch traffic.  They get
>> antsy at 2 or 3 in the morning & call the cops.  South of us is a small
>> mall - dead after midnight except for trash & delivery trucks.  We are
>> in a complex of complexes, so there is plenty of activity to watch at
>> 2 or 3 in the morning.  The vantage point is a 250-300 yard walk - about
>> my limit, non-stop.  I just get rested & the cops start checking me out.
>>
>> I've gained weight after the primary loss after the run-over... I'm up
>> to 226# - I prefer being 180-190.
>>
>> Most of my waking time (29 hrs/day, 9 days/week) is spent at the computer.
>> The only thing I ever found to kill the pinched-nerve pain was removed
>from
>> the market - "too much caffine".  Anything else means an upset stomach of
>I
>> take enough to feel relief from the nerve.  At my age, there seems to be
>no
>> end to the sources for unrelieveable pain.
>>
>> I suspect that now we've bored & irritated the list to the fullest - see
>ya
>> later in my thots.
>> <G>
>> TomR.
>>
>>
>> At 01:58 PM 13/12/99 -0800, you wrote:
>> >List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
>> >Tom, I  am sorry to hear that. I am fighting a blood clot in my right
>leg.
>> >Doctor says too much time on computer.  That's great, I can't get
>everything
>> >done without it but have to curtail activity for a while.
>> >Dale Bryant
>> >http://gfawhelp.gfa.net
>> >adbryant@msn.com
>> >adbryant@gfa.net
>> >----- Original Message -----
>> >From: "Tom Record" <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net>
>> >To: <gfabasic@gfa.net>
>> >Sent: Monday, December 13, 1999 1:21 PM
>> >Subject: Re: [gfabasic] TIGER
>> >
>> >
>> >> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net>
>wrote:
>> >> Hurtin to high hell!
>> >> Nerve in my back.  Apt w/ neurologist 23 Dec.
>> >> Makes fightin GFA-W(16) no fun.
>> >> <GROAN>
>> >> TomR.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> At 12:35 PM 13/12/99 -0800, you wrote:
>> >> >List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
>> >> >When the tiger doesn't growl on this list it ruins my entire day. Good
>> >> >grief.
>> >> >Tom, hope you are OK.
>> >> >Dale Bryant
>> >> >http://gfawhelp.gfa.net
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>> >> >adbryant@gfa.net
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
14/12/99 05:35:59 PM   BGET problem explanation   1412xx1-

I can get the desktop to the printer easily enough, but I
want to get an image there that can easily be larger than
the desktop.  I don't want the desktop showing up behind
or around the printed image.

This I'm using for image info:
'  bmph26b.lst  bitmaph() with embelishments
cx& = GETDEVCAPS(HORZRES)
cy& = GETDEVCAPS(VERTRES)
dv&  = _DRIVE
dr$ = DIR$(0)
'
TYPE BITMAPFILEHEADER:  /* bmfh */
- WORD    bfType
- DWORD   bfSize
- WORD    bfReserved1
- WORD    bfReserved2
- DWORD   bfOffBits
ENDTYPE
DIM BITMAPFILEHEADER: bmfh.
'
TYPE BITMAPINFOHEADER:   /* bmih */
- DWORD  biSize
- LONG   biWidth
- LONG   biHeight
- WORD   biPlanes
- WORD   biBitCount
- DWORD  biCompression
- DWORD  biSizeImage
- LONG   biXPelsPerMeter
- LONG   biYPelsPerMeter
- DWORD  biClrUsed
- DWORD  biClrImportant
ENDTYPE
DIM BITMAPINFOHEADER: bmih.
'
TITLEW #1, "bitmaph(), bitmap file info retrieval."
OPENW #1, 0,0,cx&,cy&,16
PeTe:
file$ = ""
CLS
FILESELECT #"Bitmap","*.bmp","",file$
IF file$ = "" THEN GOTO Thats_It

OPEN "i", #1, file$
BGET #1, *bmfh., LEN (bmfh.)
BGET #1, *bmih., LEN (bmih.)
CLOSE #1
'
CHDRIVE dv&
CHDIR dr$

PRINT " File: ";file$
PRINT " BitmapFileHeader   ";
PRINT " Bitmap Type: ";MKI$(bmfh.bfType)
PRINT " Saved File Size: ";
PRINT USING "#,###,###",bmfh.bfSize;
PRINT " bytes  (or";
PRINT USING "#######.##",bmfh.bfSize / 1024;
PRINT " Kb)"
PRINT " Data Offset (bmfh. + bmih.): ";bmfh.bfOffBits;" bytes"
PRINT
PRINT " BitmapInfoHeader    Size: ";bmih.biSize;" bytes"
PRINT " Image Width: ";bmih.biWidth;" pixels"
PRINT " Image Height: ";bmih.biHeight;" pixels"
PRINT " Planes: ";bmih.biPlanes
PRINT " Color depth (the only reliable color indicator): ";bmih.biBitCount;
PRINT "-bit or ";
PRINT USING "##,###,###,###",2 ^ bmih.biBitCount;
PRINT " colors"
IF bmih.biCompression = 0 THEN
  IsIt1$ = "RGB, "
  IsIt2$ = "not compressed"
  IsIt3$ = ", 1 to 24-bit color"
ENDIF
IF bmih.biCompression = 1 THEN
  IsIt1$ = "RLE-8, "
  IsIt2$ = "compressed"
  IsIt3$ = ", % is another discussion!"
ENDIF
IF bmih.biCompression = 2 THEN
  IsIt1$ = "RLE-4, "
  IsIt2$ = "compressed"
  IsIt3$ = " % is another discussion!"
ENDIF
IF bmih.biCompression = 3 THEN
  IsIt1$ = "BI_BITFIELDS, "
  IsIt2$ = "not compressed"
  IsIt3$ = ", 32-bit color"
ENDIF
IF bmih.biCompression = 0 OR bmih.biCompression = 3 THEN
  PRINT " Compression : ";IsIt1$;
  COLOR GETNEAREST(0,0,255),GETNEAREST(255,255,255)
  PRINT IsIt2$;
  COLOR GETNEAREST(0,0,0),GETNEAREST(255,255,255)
  PRINT IsIt3$
ENDIF
IF bmih.biCompression = 1 OR bmih.biCompression = 2 THEN
  PRINT " Compression : ";IsIt1$;
  COLOR GETNEAREST(255,100,0),GETNEAREST(255,255,255)
  PRINT IsIt2$;
  COLOR GETNEAREST(0,0,0),GETNEAREST(255,255,255)
  PRINT IsIt3$
ENDIF
IF bmih.biCompression = 1684633187 THEN
  PRINT " Compression : ";
  COLOR GETNEAREST(0,200,55),GETNEAREST(255,255,255)
  IsIt1$ = "Compressed by Cinepak (iccvid.dll)"
  PRINT IsIt1$;
  IsIt2$ = ", value unknown, 24-bit color."
  COLOR GETNEAREST(0,0,0),GETNEAREST(255,255,255)
  PRINT IsIt2$
ENDIF
IF bmih.biCompression = 842225225 THEN
  PRINT " Compression : ";
  COLOR GETNEAREST(0,200,55),GETNEAREST(255,255,255)
  IsIt1$ = "Compressed by Intel R3.2 (ir32_32.dll)"
  PRINT IsIt1$;
  IsIt2$ = ", value unknown, 24-bit color."
  COLOR GETNEAREST(0,0,0),GETNEAREST(255,255,255)
  PRINT IsIt2$
ENDIF
IF bmih.biCompression = 808801865 THEN
  PRINT " Compression : ";
  COLOR GETNEAREST(0,200,55),GETNEAREST(255,255,255)
  IsIt1$ = "Compressed by Intel 5.06 (ir50_32.dll)"
  PRINT IsIt1$;
  IsIt2$ = ", value unknown, 24-bit color."
  COLOR GETNEAREST(0,0,0),GETNEAREST(255,255,255)
  PRINT IsIt2$
ENDIF
IF bmih.biCompression = 825513545 THEN
  PRINT " Compression : ";
  COLOR GETNEAREST(0,200,55),GETNEAREST(255,255,255)
  IsIt1$ = "Compressed by Intel 4.4 (ir41_32.ax)"
  PRINT IsIt1$;
  IsIt2$ = ", value unknown, 24-bit color."
  COLOR GETNEAREST(0,0,0),GETNEAREST(255,255,255)
  PRINT IsIt2$
ENDIF
PRINT " Compression greater than RLE-# is accomplished by calling msvideo.dll."
PRINT " Amount of compression by this method doesn't appear to be noted in
the header!?"
COLOR GETNEAREST(255,0,0),GETNEAREST(255,255,255)
PRINT " MSVideo1[32] & Intel Indeo[TM] crash & burn, taking Windows with
them - do NOT use!"
COLOR GETNEAREST(0,0,0),GETNEAREST(255,255,255)
PRINT " There are many other Codecs available, but I don't have'em to test."
COLOR GETNEAREST(0,0,255),GETNEAREST(255,255,255)
PRINT " Next step: determine image size limits of those that I have (Yes,
limits exist!)."
COLOR GETNEAREST(0,0,0),GETNEAREST(255,255,255)
PRINT " Image Data Size: ";
PRINT USING "#,###,###",bmih.biSizeImage;
PRINT " bytes, or";
PRINT USING "#######.##",bmih.biSizeImage / 1024;
PRINT " Kb"
IF bmih.biXPelsPerMeter = 0 THEN
  hdpi$ = "*75"
  hdpi& = 75
ELSE
  hdpi$ = STR$(INT(bmih.biXPelsPerMeter / 39.36))
  hdpi& = INT(bmih.biXPelsPerMeter / 39.36)
ENDIF
PRINT " Horz Resolution (default is *75 if 0) : ";hdpi$;" dpi"
IF bmih.biYPelsPerMeter = 0 THEN
  vdpi$ = "*75"
  vdpi& = 75
ELSE
  vdpi$ = STR$(INT(bmih.biYPelsPerMeter / 39.36))
  vdpi& = INT(bmih.biYPelsPerMeter / 39.36)
ENDIF
PRINT " Vert Resolution (default is *75 if 0) : ";vdpi$;" dpi"
PRINT " Number of colors  (0 if > 256, it is pallet info): ";bmih.biClrUsed
PRINT " Important colors  (0 if above is 0): ";bmih.biClrImportant
PRINT
PRINT " RIGHT-click or <Esc> to close, LEFT-click to continue."
DO
  t$ = INKEY$
  EXIT IF ASC(t$) = 27/* terminates when ESC is pressed
  SWITCH MOUSEK
  CASE 1
    GOTO PeTe
  CASE 2
    GOTO Thats_It
  ENDSWITCH
LOOP
Thats_It:
CLOSEW #1
END

This I'm trying to merge into the above:
// GFA Systemtechnik GmbH

OPENW #1
DLG PRINT 1,0,dc&
DO
  FILESELECT #"Select *.bmp","*.bmp","",a$
  EXIT IF a$ = ""
  PRINT a$
  OPEN "i",#1,a$
  l% = LOF(#1)
  DIM a&(l% >> 1)
  BGET #1,V:a&(0),l%
  CLOSE #1
  IF a&(0) = CVI("BM")
    pbit% = a&(5)
    SWITCH a&(7)
    CASE 12
      PRINT "PM"
      width& = a&(9)
      height& = a&(10)
    CASE 40
      width& = a&(9)
      height& = a&(11)
    ENDSELECT
    SETDC dc&
    STARTDOC "test"
    xx& = GETDEVCAPS(HORZRES)
    yy& = GETDEVCAPS(VERTRES)
    xp& = GETDEVCAPS(LOGPIXELSX)
    yp& = GETDEVCAPS(LOGPIXELSY)
    TITLEW #1,STR$(xp&)
    b% = StretchDIBits(dc&, 0,0,xx&,yy&, 0,0,width&,height&, V:a&(0) +
pbit%, V:a&(7), DIB_RGB_COLORS, SRCCOPY)
    NEW FRAME
    ENDDOC
    SETDC _DC(1)
  ENDIF
  ERASE a&()
  KEYGET a%
LOOP
FREEDC dc&
END

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Brent
Thanks - will see if I'm capable <G>.  The arm is giving me fits, so
I'm shutting down for a bit.  Thanks for responding.
<G>
TomR.


At 02:30 PM 14/12/99 -0500, you wrote:
>List Member bdd <BrentDeck@compuserve.com> wrote:
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>>BLOAD has a 64K limit... what is BGET's limit?<
>
>Hi Tom,
>
>Use the Huge  functions from Help Page Library.
>
>Brent. 
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From: "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com>
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
You're right, but at least we are still kicking!(G)

Dale Bryant
http://gfawhelp.gfa.net
adbryant@msn.com
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Record" <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net>
To: <gfabasic@gfa.net>
Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 1999 3:42 PM
Subject: Re: [gfabasic] TIGER


> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Dale
> 10-4, FrontDoor!
> There's sure to be a purist or two among us & it *does* beat lying
> on the floor, kicking & screaming <G>.  Hell, I can't even do the
> kicking part <G>.  If I kick anything (& HOPEFULLY that includes "The
> Bucket", I do it in slow motion!
> <G>
> TomR.
>
>
>
> At 10:42 AM 14/12/99 -0800, you wrote:
> >List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> >HI Tom,
> >Why worry about boring others. We are not the only ones with health
> >problems.
> >Dale Bryant
> >http://gfawhelp.gfa.net
> >adbryant@msn.com
> >adbryant@gfa.net
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Tom Record" <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net>
> >To: <gfabasic@gfa.net>
> >Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 1999 1:09 AM
> >Subject: Re: [gfabasic] TIGER
> >
> >
> >> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net>
wrote:
> >> Dale
> >> Most regretable to hear.  My sympathy, my empathy!
> >> My being run over made it necessary to exercize, but expenses made it
> >> necessary to move back into an apartment.  The arrangement here is
> >> not to my liking - being on a gentle slope, every few yards a step or
> >> four are encountered.  My nemisis!  No handrails make it necessary to
> >> carry at least a cane to negotiate them.  There are only maniacs in the
> >> drives!  I can go up stairs left foot first, but going down it is right
> >> foot first.  Of course, I always arrive at that point on the wrong
foot!
> >>
> >> The next complex west of us is considerably uphill & has a very nice
> >> point in the corner of their parking to sit & watch traffic.  They get
> >> antsy at 2 or 3 in the morning & call the cops.  South of us is a small
> >> mall - dead after midnight except for trash & delivery trucks.  We are
> >> in a complex of complexes, so there is plenty of activity to watch at
> >> 2 or 3 in the morning.  The vantage point is a 250-300 yard walk -
about
> >> my limit, non-stop.  I just get rested & the cops start checking me
out.
> >>
> >> I've gained weight after the primary loss after the run-over... I'm up
> >> to 226# - I prefer being 180-190.
> >>
> >> Most of my waking time (29 hrs/day, 9 days/week) is spent at the
computer.
> >> The only thing I ever found to kill the pinched-nerve pain was removed
> >from
> >> the market - "too much caffine".  Anything else means an upset stomach
of
> >I
> >> take enough to feel relief from the nerve.  At my age, there seems to
be
> >no
> >> end to the sources for unrelieveable pain.
> >>
> >> I suspect that now we've bored & irritated the list to the fullest -
see
> >ya
> >> later in my thots.
> >> <G>
> >> TomR.
> >>
> >>
> >> At 01:58 PM 13/12/99 -0800, you wrote:
> >> >List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> >> >Tom, I  am sorry to hear that. I am fighting a blood clot in my right
> >leg.
> >> >Doctor says too much time on computer.  That's great, I can't get
> >everything
> >> >done without it but have to curtail activity for a while.
> >> >Dale Bryant
> >> >http://gfawhelp.gfa.net
> >> >adbryant@msn.com
> >> >adbryant@gfa.net
> >> >----- Original Message -----
> >> >From: "Tom Record" <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net>
> >> >To: <gfabasic@gfa.net>
> >> >Sent: Monday, December 13, 1999 1:21 PM
> >> >Subject: Re: [gfabasic] TIGER
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net>
> >wrote:
> >> >> Hurtin to high hell!
> >> >> Nerve in my back.  Apt w/ neurologist 23 Dec.
> >> >> Makes fightin GFA-W(16) no fun.
> >> >> <GROAN>
> >> >> TomR.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> At 12:35 PM 13/12/99 -0800, you wrote:
> >> >> >List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> >> >> >When the tiger doesn't growl on this list it ruins my entire day.
Good
> >> >> >grief.
> >> >> >Tom, hope you are OK.
> >> >> >Dale Bryant
> >> >> >http://gfawhelp.gfa.net
> >> >> >adbryant@msn.com
> >> >> >adbryant@gfa.net
> >> >> >
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Subject: [gfabasic] 256-color palettes in TrueColor mode
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List Member bdd <BrentDeck@compuserve.com> wrote:
Tom, does this fall into your area of expertise?

I'm trying to create a compact memory resident bitmap to be used for scre=
en
refresh.
  =

Is there any good way to create a memory resident 8-bit or 4-bit color
bitmap,
and display it in a window when the display is set to truecolor (24-bit) =

mode?

My sole purpose is to save memory on very large bitmaps which will be
scrolled and panned on screen.
Device-Independent Bitmaps, using 16-bit color, seem too big.

Brent.
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Subject: [gfabasic] shift bug
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List Member bdd <BrentDeck@compuserve.com> wrote:
// Here's a bug in the shift operator
// 1)   GB32 fixed the boolean NOT bug that was in GFAWIN16.
//      (It was never fixed in GFAWIN16)
//      However GB32 now has a similar bug in the shift operator.
//      Shift operators should be unary, not distributive
// Other stuff:
// 2) Is there no keyboard event for win_1 ???
// 3) Why not "Loop While Me" ? (Does not work)
//
OpenW 1
FullW 1
Cls

Auto
Local Long a =3D Rand($ff)
Local Long b =3D Rand($ff)
Local Long c =3D Rand($ff)

Local Long d =3D a + b << 8 + c << 16                  //  *****  COMPUTA=
TION
ERROR  *****
Local Long e =3D a + (b << 8) + (c << 16) // OK   =

Local Long f =3D a + Shl(b , 8) + Shl(c , 16)     // OK
Print
Print "  a,   b,   c", a, b, c
Print
Print " d , e  &  f  should be equal, but they are not !!!!"
Print "  d,   e,   f ", d, e, f

Do
  Sleep
  If MENU(1) =3D 1 Then CloseW 1  // Is ther no Win_1.keydown event in
GB32???
Loop Until Me Is Nothing
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From: Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: [gfabasic] 256-color palettes in TrueColor mode
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Brent
Eberhard's editor has a decent conversion to 8-bit.  I'm not certain about
4-bit.  The only other way I know to get decent 8-bit is to first convert
to *.gif, then to *.bmp.  *.gif is, by definition, 8-bit, so most that 
have written converters have battled the problem.

*IF* you can get it to either, 4-bit or 8-bit, you can save it RLE4 or RLE8,
reducing it's size further.  GFA-W(16)'s RLE saves are only fair - the 8-bit
actually sucks like hell!  Study Eberhard's conversions - his is pretty good
in spite of the Windows/GFA-W(16) limitation.  You have to force-build a
pallet & force-save to get it when your display is set to 16-bit or more.

I'm forced to not divulge the codec compression source, but I can send you
a plain-wrapper compression appl.  You can then load & display'em mashed
down to less than an equivelant *.jpg even at 24-bit color.  Roland says a 
32-bit image can be done also, but I don't have any to try it on.  A 24-bit
*.bmp, fullscreen at 640x480 is a mother, as you know.  Making it less than
100k is practical, but you must retain one thought... the deeper you compress
it, the "richer", "deeper" the colors become.  It loses some lights the deeper
you take it.  I've tried 40% "quality" with good results.

Some of the compressors won't handle 8-bit very well (they all rebuild at 24-bit
as far as I can tell but MS's RLE compressor).  Some allow you to produce at
least 1-bit, but I don't know about 4-bit.

Study Eberhard's colordepth change routines - they're the only ones I know of
in GFA-W(16) that are worth using.

Thinking back, I did a 24-bit, 800x600 compression to 50% "quality" & got a
150K file from a 1.5M file.  That's pretty fair size reduction & it's all
done as a DIB in memory.

On my BGET problem... the codec routines use one that doesn't give a damn
how big the image is.  When my arm allows, I'll try copying *that* into
what I've been playing with.  ALL of the codec routines use a bulk copy
& work in memory as DIBs.  I hurt too much at the moment to be very clear,
but John's lighten routine works in memory, too.  I made a darken routine
out of it & as long as I use 16-bit display, I can even work on R, G, or
B, or a combination of any of the 3.  24-bit doesn't give me that lattitude.

I'll send you the compressor *.exe, the working display as a *.lst & John's
gamma routine as a *.lst if you wish.  Right now, I have to get away from this
thing & get those shark's teeth outa my left arm.
<G>
TomR.


At 08:46 PM 14/12/99 -0500, you wrote:
>List Member bdd <BrentDeck@compuserve.com> wrote:
>Tom, does this fall into your area of expertise?
>
>I'm trying to create a compact memory resident bitmap to be used for screen
>refresh.
>  
>Is there any good way to create a memory resident 8-bit or 4-bit color
>bitmap,
>and display it in a window when the display is set to truecolor (24-bit) 
>mode?
>
>My sole purpose is to save memory on very large bitmaps which will be
>scrolled and panned on screen.
>Device-Independent Bitmaps, using 16-bit color, seem too big.
>
>Brent.
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Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 08:37:14 +0100
Subject: [gfabasic] Icon animations (funny...)
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List Member "Roland Walter" <roland@rowalt.de> wrote:
Hallo,
Here is a small example listing how You can simply make an
animation in a dialog window using icons. Have fun ;-)

Bye, Roland


'ICO_ANI.LST: Show icons in dialogs and make for fun some animation 
with icons
'Roland Walter, roland@rowalt.de, www.rowalt.de/gfabasic/
'
'Now declare 2 messages which are not just declared in GFA Basic 
(they exist since Windows 3.1)
STM_SETICON&=WM_USER  'Message to set an icon to a dialog (wParam: 
icon handle, lParam must be 0)
STM_GETICON&=WM_USER+1 'Message to retrieve the handle of the icon 
(wParam and lParam must be 0)
'
DLG BASE UNIT
DIALOG #1,20,20,70,70,"Icon 
animation",DS_MODALFRAME|WS_CAPTION|WS_SYSMENU
  CONTROL "",100,"STATIC",SS_ICON,30,10,0,0 'Icons have a fixed size
  //CONTROL "#1",100,"STATIC",SS_ICON,30,10,0,0 'example for a fixed 
icon from resource, having resource id 1
  CONTROL "&END",1,"BUTTON",BS_DEFPUSHBUTTON|WS_BORDER,10,35,55,14
ENDDIALOG
DLG FILL 1,RGB(192,192,192)
SHOWDIALOG #1
'
hIcon1&=LoadIcon(_INSTANCE,1)  'load icon resource 1 from own EXE (in 
interpreter this is GFA's icon)
hIcon2&=LoadIcon(NULL,IDI_EXCLAMATION)  'load a system icon
hIcon3&=LoadIcon(NULL,IDI_HAND) 'load a system icon
hIcon4&=LoadIcon(NULL,IDI_QUESTION) 'load a system icon
'
SETTIMER DLG(1),1,300   'We want to get WM_TIMER messages
DO
  GETEVENT
  IF _Mess=WM_COMMAND
    IF _wParam=1 THEN Quit!=TRUE
  ELSE IF _Mess=WM_TIMER
    numIcon&++
    IF numIcon&>3 THEN numIcon&=1
    SELECT numIcon&
    CASE 1
      ~SendMessage(DLGITEM(1,100),STM_SETICON&,hIcon1&,0)
    CASE 2
      ~SendMessage(DLGITEM(1,100),STM_SETICON&,hIcon2&,0)
    CASE 3
      ~SendMessage(DLGITEM(1,100),STM_SETICON&,hIcon3&,0)
    CASE 4
      ~SendMessage(DLGITEM(1,100),STM_SETICON&,hIcon4&,0)
    ENDSELECT
  ENDIF
UNTIL MENU(1)=4 OR Quit!=TRUE
KILLTIMER DLG(1),1   'Never forget this: timers are a not-endless 
global resource
~DeleteObject(hIcon1&)  'all non-system icons must be deleted from 
memory; for system icons this is not necessary
CLOSEDIALOG #1

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List Member Micromiser Software <miser@cde.com> wrote:
To all,

I previously submitted this printer check for LPT1:

~INTR($17,_AH=2,_DX=0)
PREADY|=_AH
IF BTST(PREADY|,7) = FALSE THEN
  IF PREADY|<>16 AND PREADY|<>80 THEN 'printer not ready
END IF       

This has worked fine on a variety of about 100 (+?) printers, except today I
learned it locks up on a networked printer (networking LPT1 where the
printer is not local). There may be another number to filter besides 16 and
80 for a nonlocal networked printer, but I didn't have an opportunity to
test for it.

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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
I don't know if any of you are familiar with Mark Feaver. Mark wrote a
fantastic karaoke program in GFA BASIC.  He was kind enough to send me a
copy and I have a lot of fun playing and singing along. No, you don't want
to hear me.(G)
If you have an idea what Mark's problem might be please let me know or I
will give you his email  address and you can talk to him directly
Dale
Dale Bryant
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adbryant@msn.com
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Feaver" <mfeaver@concentric.net>
To: <adbryant@msn.com>
Sent: Monday, December 20, 1999 2:27 PM
Subject: Request for help or advice...


> Hi Dale!
>
> Thanks for keeping the newsletter going.  Sorry I haven't been in contact
> or done any contributing.  Just seems there is not enough time, and I
don't
> even get to check all the neat code you are passing along.  But I have it
> all in the zips attached, and maybe someday. <grin>
>
> I am working on a new version of my music program, that implements a
> bouncing ball for the karaoke display.  I have several versions leading
> up to what I thought would be the best version, but have run into a snag.
> This version works fine on my Win3.1 486DX, but my smooth scrolling logic
> and MEMDC bitmap do not appear correctly on my brothers HP Win95 (first
> version Win95A).
>
> I am creating a memory device context at the start of the program and
> selecting a bitmap into it to draw on in the background.  Then I blit
> the 1 to 4 lines of the bitmap to the bottom of the screen after a scroll
> window operation.  This works very well on the Win3.1 machine, and the
> text scrolls smoothly up a pixel at a time revealing the next line.  The
> ball is bouncing between words and syllables, and generally there are
> four lines visible at a time, so it bounces down to each line as it
> continues.  The scrolling tries to keep the line being sung (an bounced
> and highlighted too) in the middle of the screen.
>
> On the HP, my bitmap lines being blitted onto the screen are garbage or
> almost.  I have tried to used Winapi calls for creating a compatible
> memdc and bitmap also, remembering something about GFA's code possibly
> being faulty.  This helped a little.
>
> I haven't had time to try and display the whole bitmap or at least the
> part I draw on to see what it looks like, and my code literally blits
> only the required lines of the bitmap as they would fall at the bottom
> of the screen.  Seems that the background instead of being a solid color
> is almost hatched or has vertical lines.  The text statement puts the
> line of text required in the current font on the bitmap, and sometimes
> this shows almost in a ghost effect and is located where it should be,
> but it really trashes my otherwise wonderful display.
>
> If anyone has any hints as to what I might change to correct this, I would
> appreciate it.  Maybe SH will know what is wrong.  All of my other code
> that draws and paints the screen is OK, but this bitmap image is not
> coming thru as it should, but is clean as a whistle on my Win3.1 machine.
>
> Well, I am just on a lunch break and have to run back.  Hope somebody
> can help me.  I don't know where to turn or if I am struggling with a
> GFA bug of some kind.  Thanks in advance.
>
> OH, if someone can help, it would be great if I could be emailed directly
> (and of course in the newsletter), but I don't always get a moment to
> check the topics in the newsletter.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Mark Feaver
>
> I would have supplied a little code if I had the time, cause maybe I am
> just not doing something exactly right.
>
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Dale, Mark
Can't get specific now, but I remember HP having some quirky problem w/
their video... something they built in.  PB did, too - on their older
systems, but it was different.  *That* one was a 2x32K video page instead
of a single 64K page.  I run PBs.  Perhaps contacting HP might help.
<G>
TomR.


At 04:33 PM 20/12/99 -0800, you wrote:
>List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
>I don't know if any of you are familiar with Mark Feaver. Mark wrote a
>fantastic karaoke program in GFA BASIC.  He was kind enough to send me a
>copy and I have a lot of fun playing and singing along. No, you don't want
>to hear me.(G)
>If you have an idea what Mark's problem might be please let me know or I
>will give you his email  address and you can talk to him directly
>Dale
>Dale Bryant
>http://gfawhelp.gfa.net
>adbryant@msn.com
>adbryant@gfa.net
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Mark Feaver" <mfeaver@concentric.net>
>To: <adbryant@msn.com>
>Sent: Monday, December 20, 1999 2:27 PM
>Subject: Request for help or advice...
>
>
>> Hi Dale!
>>
>> Thanks for keeping the newsletter going.  Sorry I haven't been in contact
>> or done any contributing.  Just seems there is not enough time, and I
>don't
>> even get to check all the neat code you are passing along.  But I have it
>> all in the zips attached, and maybe someday. <grin>
>>
>> I am working on a new version of my music program, that implements a
>> bouncing ball for the karaoke display.  I have several versions leading
>> up to what I thought would be the best version, but have run into a snag.
>> This version works fine on my Win3.1 486DX, but my smooth scrolling logic
>> and MEMDC bitmap do not appear correctly on my brothers HP Win95 (first
>> version Win95A).
>>
>> I am creating a memory device context at the start of the program and
>> selecting a bitmap into it to draw on in the background.  Then I blit
>> the 1 to 4 lines of the bitmap to the bottom of the screen after a scroll
>> window operation.  This works very well on the Win3.1 machine, and the
>> text scrolls smoothly up a pixel at a time revealing the next line.  The
>> ball is bouncing between words and syllables, and generally there are
>> four lines visible at a time, so it bounces down to each line as it
>> continues.  The scrolling tries to keep the line being sung (an bounced
>> and highlighted too) in the middle of the screen.
>>
>> On the HP, my bitmap lines being blitted onto the screen are garbage or
>> almost.  I have tried to used Winapi calls for creating a compatible
>> memdc and bitmap also, remembering something about GFA's code possibly
>> being faulty.  This helped a little.
>>
>> I haven't had time to try and display the whole bitmap or at least the
>> part I draw on to see what it looks like, and my code literally blits
>> only the required lines of the bitmap as they would fall at the bottom
>> of the screen.  Seems that the background instead of being a solid color
>> is almost hatched or has vertical lines.  The text statement puts the
>> line of text required in the current font on the bitmap, and sometimes
>> this shows almost in a ghost effect and is located where it should be,
>> but it really trashes my otherwise wonderful display.
>>
>> If anyone has any hints as to what I might change to correct this, I would
>> appreciate it.  Maybe SH will know what is wrong.  All of my other code
>> that draws and paints the screen is OK, but this bitmap image is not
>> coming thru as it should, but is clean as a whistle on my Win3.1 machine.
>>
>> Well, I am just on a lunch break and have to run back.  Hope somebody
>> can help me.  I don't know where to turn or if I am struggling with a
>> GFA bug of some kind.  Thanks in advance.
>>
>> OH, if someone can help, it would be great if I could be emailed directly
>> (and of course in the newsletter), but I don't always get a moment to
>> check the topics in the newsletter.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Mark Feaver
>>
>> I would have supplied a little code if I had the time, cause maybe I am
>> just not doing something exactly right.
>>
>>
>
>
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
>From Mark Feaver.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Feaver" <mfeaver@concentric.net>
To: "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@msn.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 1999 10:45 PM
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> Thanks for the forward Dale!
>
> I was in such a hurry the other day that I forgot the Holidays and wanted
> to wish you a very joy filled season with all the blessings you can
handle!
> Ha! My biggest problem at Christmas time is knowing what to give for gifts
> to all the clan, especially the younger ones.  I still have some shopping
> to do, and am waiting for some inspiration.
>
> Regarding my scrolling and blitting problem, I grabbed an older short
> program which was experimenting with the simple MEMDC and BITBLT functions
> which did not implement a color pallet.  Strange enough, it works on the
> HP with the same colors that appear on my own 486 Win3.1 system using
> the default pallet.  There were three versions of this little experiment
> that scrolled some text in a small window which was actually the contents
> of the MEMDC bitmap.  The only difference in what I am doing in the music
> program is that I am not showing (blitting) a larger "viewport" of the
bitmap
> in the MEMDC, but only one to four lines (depending on how much I had to
> scroll the main window to keep up with the music).  Ha!  I have tried to
> teach the program that if it is getting too close to the bottom of the
> screen, it had better scroll faster before the ball drops off the bottom!
> This should not make a difference, but the second thing that is different
> is that I use a color pallet with 40 entries in the music program, and
> select it into the MEMDC.  Without this, on the Win3.1 machine the bitmap
> is black.
>
> I tried reselecting and realizing the pallet right in the routine that
> draws the bitmap for each new line (overwriting what was previously
there).
> I use a CLS background color command to clear the bitmap and a COLOR
> statement to set text forground\background.  This reselect\realize the
> pallet did not help.  I did notice, and this is really odd stuff, that
> if the font size is changed (from 28 pt to 36 pt for example), that it
> tries harder to display the text.  Then I changed forground and background
> colors (which can all be changed now for the program), and found that
> the text was oddly appearing (when it did) in the background color, and
> that the background itself was a hatched looking version of the background
> color.  Really strange displays in light of the fact that with the simple
> test program (not music) the BITBLT of the MEMDC bitmap looks fine without
> a color pallet being defined or selected.
>
> Anyway, I am pasting in some code excerpts for anyone who knows more than
> I to analyse.  I am still working on this and should I discover the fix
> I will pass it along so others don't fuss over it.  It is driving me crazy
> though, because I want to release a finished program that will run
correctly
> on anyones computer system.  I have not yet tried this MEMDC version on
> another friends IBM Aptiva.  The HP I have temporarily until Christmas
> when it goes back to its home.  I installed an added HDrive (8.4gig) to
> account for needed space for programs the parents got for the kids for
> Christmas.  They live 30 miles up in the hills, so it is convenient to
> try and work on this before Christmas (or inconvenient as the case may
> be).
>
> Here are my code excerpts:
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
> ' Excerpts of code involving a MEMDC, BITMAP, BITBLT, and color pallet.
> ' I create the MEMDC and empty Bitmap at the start of the program
> ' and release them when the program quits and resources are returned.
>
> PROCEDURE Main
>   'just an excerpt to show MEMDC creation code
>
>   @My_Colors               'this call creates color pallet "pal&"
>
>   'the following creates the MEMDC and Bitmap only once at
>   'the start of the program.  xscrn& and yscrn& are the returns of
>   'SYSMETRICS calls for screen size (so I can detect larger than
>   '640x480)
>
>   hm&=CreateCompatibleDC(_DC(1))   'original was GFA's MEMDC()
>   SETDC hm&                'select the DC to put a pallet in it
>   ~SelectPalette(hm&,pal&,NULL)    'required for Win3.1 or colors are
>   ~RealizePalette(hm&)             'wrong or black
>   hb&=CreateCompatibleBitmap(hm&,xscrn&,yscrn&)  'orig was GFA's and not
API
>   ~SelectObject(hm&,hb&)   'put the bitmap in the DC  'was GFA's SETBMP
>   SETDC _DC(1)             'reselect the main windows DC
>
>   'the changes to API calls seemed to help a little (don't know)
> RETURN
>
> ' The following is called to DRAW the bitmap which will be scrolled
> ' onto the screen a line or two at a time by the routine which follows
> PROCEDURE Draw_Bmp
>   SAVE DC              'seemed to help keep pallets correct on Win3.1
>   bp&=0                'used by BITBLT for the vertical y co-ord (reset
here)
>   SETDC hm&            'make the MEMDC active for drawing
>   ~SelectPalette(hm&,pal&,NULL)     'these two lines didn't help with HP
>   ~RealizePalette(hm&)              'aren't needed for 486 and Win3.1
>   GRAPHMODE ,OPAQUE
>   DEFFILL 0
>   CLS kbkg|            'kbkg=karaoke background color
>   COLOR txtchr|,kbkg|  'txtchr=normal text char color usually black
>   SETFONT mf&          'current user font (mf=my font or Mark Feaver!)
>   ' text statement  [text x,y,string]  lines are in an array
>   TEXT kar_x&+TXTLEN(" "),jd&,lines$(nxtpage&)
>   SETDC _DC(1)         'restore normal window DC
>   RESTORE DC           'restore saved state of normal DC
> RETURN
>
> ' The following short routine could be put right after the
> ' Scroll Window code and call, but is in a short procedure
> ' just to keep track of it for now.  It is called after
> ' every scroll of the main window and passed the number of
> ' lines (1 to 4 max) that were scrolled (picked up in the
> ' Local variable l&)
>
> PROCEDURE Scroll_Bmp(l&)
>   COLOR txtchr|,kbkg|      'color command seems to have to come
>   'before both the ScrollWindow() function and the BITBLT() to
>   'keep colors correct.  hm&=MEMDC handle, bp& is y position within
>   'the MEMDC bitmap (the line to start with) and is reset to zero
>   'in Draw_Bmp() routine.
>
>   BITBLT hm&,0,bp&,_X,4,_DC(1),0,_Y-l&-1,SRCCOPY
>   ADD bp&,l&              'vert position l&=#lines 1-4
>
>   'bp& is adjusted so we are always blitting the next need line(s)
>   'to the bottom of the screen.  It is reset when a new bitmap is
>   'drawn.  The bitmap is the size of the whole window or rather
>   'the screen, and _X and _Y are used to return the current window
>   'inner dimensions in case the user changes the window size
>
> RETURN
>
> I added the comments for clarity to anyone reading the code.  It is
> not anything too complex or involved. It just occurred to me that
> maybe my Y position at the bottom of the screen might be incorrect
> for some video systems and I will check that.  Without a pallet and
> without attempting to blit to the last line of video pixels, the
> MEMDC and BITBLT appear to work OK on the HP.  So it must be something
> I am not doing just right.
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Thanks again for your help and the holiday wishes.
> God bless you and may your holidays be filled with peace,
> love, and joy in abundance.
>
> Mark
>
>



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From: "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com>
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Subject: [gfabasic] Fw: Sorry to be a pest... more info...
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
More from Mark Feaver
Dale Bryant
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From: "Mark Feaver" <mfeaver@concentric.net>
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Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 1999 1:16 AM
Subject: Sorry to be a pest... more info...


> Hi Dale,
>
> Have been experimenting and have some more info, but no solution to
> some problems.  First, part of the problem appears to be an adjustment
> to blit the HP text to one pixel higher and offset this by putting the
> text in the bitmap one pixel lower.  Now the bitmap is at least moving
> up the screen properly.  The problem now is getting the colors to work
> correctly.  Although CLS colorindex works on the Win3.1 486, it does not
> appear to work correctly on the HP's video.  PBOX doesn't seem to work
> right on either, and in some experiments the colors are reversed as far
> as forground and background.  Apparently there is some trick to using
> color in a MEMDC bitmap that is Blitted to the screen.  I have blitted
> the whole bitmap or first 300 lines of it, after pboxing 40 colors of
> the pallet to it.  When blitted to the screen all the colors are the
> same and only two colors are displayed! (forground and background I
guess).
> Therefore I conclude that I am not using colors, pallets, MEMDC bitmap
> correctly and only got lucky on the 486 Win3.1 machine with a magic
> combination.  I am thinking that maybe Sjouke or someone who has worked
> with graphics like this is going to have the knowledge of what to do.
>
> Where the CLS works on the 486, on the HP it seems to generate a hatched
> pattern instead of a solid color.  PBOXing doesn't seem to help, yet on
> the main screen (pianos and the like) I am using PBOX commands and CLS
> just fine.  Doesn't seem to work in the MEMDC bitmap drawing operations
> though.  The text will produce the right background when I draw in OPAQUE
> mode, but I think I have to fiddle with the colors to get the right
> combination.  Much of the bitmap is still garbage after a huge PBOX or CLS
> command, so something is not working correctly.
>
> It's one AM and I am going to bed before I go crazy.  Just trying to find
> a solution before this HP goes to its home.  Then it will be very
difficult
> to debug.  On the 486 I had to use the COLOR txtchr,kbkg before doing the
> BITBLT operation to get correct colors, so I am assuming that no matter
what
> the colors are originally in the bitmap drawn, they are going to be
modified
> to be compatible with the screen they are blitted to.  Very confusing and
> both machines HP and 486 react differently.  I am wondering what the IBM
> will do when I get a chance to check it.  I am really hoping for
compatibility
> with all machines, and assume it is my lack of knowledge.  Thanks for
listening
> and trying to help.
>
> Your friend,
> Mark
>
>



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List Member Sven Kumlin <sven.kumlin@hem.utfors.se> wrote:
I'm working on a program with two child windows in a parent window. How =
can I get rid of minimise and maximise boxes in the child windows, or =
make them grey? I am using GFA-Basic 4.36

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List Member "Russell Hayward" <russ@softhome.net> wrote:

Hi Sven,

I tried this and it worked, amazing!

~SetWindowLong(WIN(2),GWL_STYLE,GetWindowLong(WIN(2),GWL_STYLE) AND
NOT(WS_MINIMIZEBOX OR WS_MAXIMIZEBOX))
' On one line. Replace WIN(2) with WIN([Child Window Number]).

Ta'ra,
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List Member Sven Kumlin <sven.kumlin@hem.utfors.se> wrote:
I'm working on a program with two child windows in a parent window. How can
I get rid of minimise and maximise boxes in the child windows, or make them
grey? I am using GFA-Basic 4.36

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List Member Sven Kumlin <sven.kumlin@hem.utfors.se> wrote:
Hi Russel,

I tried Your suggestion, and it worked perfectly good.=20
Thank Yoy very much for solving my problem!
Merry Christmas to You and all other GFA programmers!

Sven Kumlin

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>List Member "Russell Hayward" <russ@softhome.net> wrote:
>
>Hi Sven,
>
>I tried this and it worked, amazing!
>
>~SetWindowLong(WIN(2),GWL_STYLE,GetWindowLong(WIN(2),GWL_STYLE) AND
>NOT(WS_MINIMIZEBOX OR WS_MAXIMIZEBOX))
>' On one line. Replace WIN(2) with WIN([Child Window Number]).
>
>Ta'ra,
>Russell Hayward
>
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>----- Original Message -----
>From: Sven Kumlin <sven.kumlin@hem.utfors.se>
>To: <gfabasic@gfa.net>
>Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 1999 9:12 PM
>Subject: [gfabasic] Child Windows
>
>
>List Member Sven Kumlin <sven.kumlin@hem.utfors.se> wrote:
>I'm working on a program with two child windows in a parent window. How =
can
>I get rid of minimise and maximise boxes in the child windows, or make =
them
>grey? I am using GFA-Basic 4.36
>
>Sven Kumlin



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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
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Help!
The number indicated checks to be a line number, but...
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as number of lines + 1.

This file calls mmsystem.dll.  The same one, without the call
to mmsystem.dll to play a *.mid during operation compiles just
fine.  Mmsystem routine does NOT contain hread!

This routine is a codec-compressed *.bmp animation.  Text is
printed along the bottom of the images, telling a story.

The one that compiles, does NOT show the text!  BOTH run fine 
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I finally get to sell something & *this* happens!
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Many thanks to all who responded... here is the fix...


Alan

I'll be damned!  Close enough for government work, for sure!
The bomb:  DLL #2,WinPath$ + "\system\mmsystem.dll"
WIERD!!

Thanks a million!  Won't be very timely w/ a christmas animation, but
mebbeso the guy'll be sufficiently impressed to want to go with me on 
the project.  He gives everything away for free, but I think I can make
both of us a coin or two.  The animation is a webpage that contains a
story, some *.jpg images & a *.gif animation.  All are now codec-compressed
*.bmp & a stand-alone *.exe.  Yep, the *.gif is converted, too.

Again, many thanks!
<G>
TomR.


At 11:33 AM 26/12/99 +0000, you wrote:
>Hi Tom
>
>I've come accross this one before. It's seems that you may have used
>something like this
>
>dll_name$="MMSYSTEM.DLL"
>DLL #1,dll_name$
>
>This works in the interpreter but won't compile. You _must_ use
>
>DLL #1,"MMSYSTEM.DLL"
>
>Hope this helps. Happy Xmas & Happy New Millennium
>
>Best regards Alan
>

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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
I hope that you make a ton!!!!

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> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Many thanks to all who responded... here is the fix...
>
>
> Alan
>
> I'll be damned!  Close enough for government work, for sure!
> The bomb:  DLL #2,WinPath$ + "\system\mmsystem.dll"
> WIERD!!
>
> Thanks a million!  Won't be very timely w/ a christmas animation, but
> mebbeso the guy'll be sufficiently impressed to want to go with me on
> the project.  He gives everything away for free, but I think I can make
> both of us a coin or two.  The animation is a webpage that contains a
> story, some *.jpg images & a *.gif animation.  All are now
codec-compressed
> *.bmp & a stand-alone *.exe.  Yep, the *.gif is converted, too.
>
> Again, many thanks!
> <G>
> TomR.
>
>
> At 11:33 AM 26/12/99 +0000, you wrote:
> >Hi Tom
> >
> >I've come accross this one before. It's seems that you may have used
> >something like this
> >
> >dll_name$="MMSYSTEM.DLL"
> >DLL #1,dll_name$
> >
> >This works in the interpreter but won't compile. You _must_ use
> >
> >DLL #1,"MMSYSTEM.DLL"
> >
> >Hope this helps. Happy Xmas & Happy New Millennium
> >
> >Best regards Alan
> >
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Well, I've lost track of who else was interested in getting *.jpg
capability, so I'll address this to the whole list.

On Roland's website, in a subdir imp_flt, you will find the answer!
There are two import filter files & two *.dlls, all together, 174K.
There is also a *.lst in which the only change needed to switch from
*.gif to *.jpg are below.  Simply unREM the one & REM the other to
switch.

@ImportFilterInit
Return& = @ImportFilter(WIN(1),"gifimp.flt","seekrank.gif")
'Return&=@ImportFilter(WIN(1),"jpegimp.flt","test.jpg")
IF Return& <> 0

Either way, it compiles & runs just fine!  Thank you Roland, for
working out the calls & such.  I see now that I am not the only
one truly interested in quality imagery.

This is not quite the same as being able to do it "from scratch" in
GFA-W(16) code, but it answers a lot of questions I had & makes both
possible.  I don't know just what this might do to Unisys's "rights"
or reactions, but these are from MicroSoft!

I've been unable to resolve putting codec-compressed *.bmp into a
*.res file to include in my *.exe.  Discovering those files above make
it a totally mute point now because I had to put the images into a
subdir of their own & spend a lot of time converting the images.  *This*
discovery means I have only to include the 174K of files w/ my *.exe &
subdir of *.jpg files & let my install appl handle it all at one time.

I've been unable to make an *.scr in the windows dir call another *.exe
successfully, so I can't put the bulk package in it's own subdir elsewhere.
I *have* managed to filter out junk & make working *.scr files, tho.  I am
still working on between-image effects & am having a modicum of success.

<GGG>
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Thanks, Dale.  Did you see the note on getting *.jpg into the act?
I'll go back & rebuild it all usisng the *.jpg feature & see if I
can't do better.  The *.gif animation will remain a tad wierd I
guess - I can now make *it* a *.jpg animation or convert it to
16 (or 64) color setup - it's only 2 images.  I'll certainly play
with it all again, now.
<G>
TomR.


At 04:35 PM 27/12/99 -0800, you wrote:
>List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
>I hope that you make a ton!!!!
>
>Dale Bryant
>http://gfawhelp.gfa.net
>adbryant@msn.com
>adbryant@gfa.net
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>Sent: Monday, December 27, 1999 9:19 AM
>Subject: [gfabasic] The bomb: DLL #2,WinPath$ + "\system\mmsystem.dll"
>
>
>> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> Many thanks to all who responded... here is the fix...
>>
>>
>> Alan
>>
>> I'll be damned!  Close enough for government work, for sure!
>> The bomb:  DLL #2,WinPath$ + "\system\mmsystem.dll"
>> WIERD!!
>>
>> Thanks a million!  Won't be very timely w/ a christmas animation, but
>> mebbeso the guy'll be sufficiently impressed to want to go with me on
>> the project.  He gives everything away for free, but I think I can make
>> both of us a coin or two.  The animation is a webpage that contains a
>> story, some *.jpg images & a *.gif animation.  All are now
>codec-compressed
>> *.bmp & a stand-alone *.exe.  Yep, the *.gif is converted, too.
>>
>> Again, many thanks!
>> <G>
>> TomR.
>>
>>
>> At 11:33 AM 26/12/99 +0000, you wrote:
>> >Hi Tom
>> >
>> >I've come accross this one before. It's seems that you may have used
>> >something like this
>> >
>> >dll_name$="MMSYSTEM.DLL"
>> >DLL #1,dll_name$
>> >
>> >This works in the interpreter but won't compile. You _must_ use
>> >
>> >DLL #1,"MMSYSTEM.DLL"
>> >
>> >Hope this helps. Happy Xmas & Happy New Millennium
>> >
>> >Best regards Alan
>> >
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
I *think* it was Brent playing w/ metafiles, but if not, whomever
it was...

The input filter goodies on Roland's website handle images in
memory as metafiles, NOT DIBs.

I don't see how to avoid the progress meter while loading, but
that doesn't necessarily mean it can't be done.

Boy, I wish I had Roland'e mind between my ears!
<G>
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
ftp://ftp.inprise.com/pub/bcppbuilder/techpubs/bcbhlp01.zip

5.45M, MS file(s), 32-bit info

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List Member "Schoenherr, Walter" <Walter.Schoenherr@PZN-Wiesloch.de> wrote:
Hey Thank you Man. thats just what the doctor ordered!

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List Member "Andras Szalay" <a.szalay@mail.matav.hu> wrote:
Can anybody provide me an example how to call functions
of an *.OCX from GFA16? I am very fascinated by the LEGO
Mindstorms Robot Invention system that I bought for my children
for Christmas. It installs SPIRIT.OCX on the PC, this contains
all necessary functions to communicate with the mobile robot 
through an infrared port (http://www.legomindstorms.com).
The OCX functions are well documented and a VB example
is given how to access it from own programs. Is this possible
from GFA16?

Andras Szalay

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Subject: Re: [gfabasic] OCX
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Andras
GOOD LUCK!
I've been trying for months!  Not *that* *.ocx, but one that plays
*.gif animations.  OCX & VBX are nothing but DLLs, but apparently
even 16-bit ones has something wierd in their handling.

I've not succeeded in getting *any* help w/ this situation.
<G>
TomR.


At 04:41 PM 30/12/99 +0100, you wrote:
>List Member "Andras Szalay" <a.szalay@mail.matav.hu> wrote:
>Can anybody provide me an example how to call functions
>of an *.OCX from GFA16? I am very fascinated by the LEGO
>Mindstorms Robot Invention system that I bought for my children
>for Christmas. It installs SPIRIT.OCX on the PC, this contains
>all necessary functions to communicate with the mobile robot 
>through an infrared port (http://www.legomindstorms.com).
>The OCX functions are well documented and a VB example
>is given how to access it from own programs. Is this possible
>from GFA16?
>
>Andras Szalay
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Subject: Re: [gfabasic] AW: help for 32-bit'ers
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
you betchem, Li'l Beaver
May it serve you well.
<GGG?
TomR.


At 12:49 PM 30/12/99 +0100, you wrote:
>List Member "Schoenherr, Walter" <Walter.Schoenherr@PZN-Wiesloch.de> wrote:
>Hey Thank you Man. thats just what the doctor ordered!
>
>-----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----
>Von: Tom Record [mailto:tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net]
>Gesendet am: Mittwoch, 29. Dezember 1999 12:36
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>Betreff: [gfabasic] help for 32-bit'ers
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>List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>ftp://ftp.inprise.com/pub/bcppbuilder/techpubs/bcbhlp01.zip
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>5.45M, MS file(s), 32-bit info
>
><G>
>TomR.
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Subject: [gfabasic] input filter problems & observations
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
In Roland's use of input filters & *.dlls, the following will read all
images into memory: (qt& is the number of images)

FOR qp& = 1 TO qt&
  nfil$ = STR$(qp&,2)
  IF LEFT$(nfil$,1) = " " THEN nfil$ = "0" + RIGHT$(nfil$,1)
  nfil$ = nfil$ + ".jpg"
  Return&(qp&) = @ImportFilter(WIN(1),"jpegimp.flt",nfil$)
  IF Return&(qp&) <> 0
    MESSAGE "Return =" + STR$(Return&(qp&)),"Fehler
aufgetreten",MB_ICONSTOP,Dummy&
    END
  ENDIF
NEXT qp&

NOTHING in the next part will allow me to select *which* image to display!

DO
  GETEVENT
  qr& ++
  IF _Mess = WM_PAINT AND PictInfo.hMemMetaFile
    MAPMODE MM_ANISOTROPIC
    '    VIEWPORT _X/4,_Y/4,PictInfo.RectBboxW,PictInfo.RectBboxH,_X / 2,_Y
/ 2 'normalerweise Client-Abmessungen statt _X und _Y !
    VIEWPORT
0,0,PictInfo.RectBboxW,PictInfo.RectBboxH,PictInfo.RectBboxW/2,PictInfo.Rect
BboxH/2 'normalerweise Client-Abmessungen statt _X und _Y !
    ~PlayMetaFile(_DC(1),PictInfo.hMemMetaFile)  //Metafile im Fenster
wiedergeben
  ENDIF
UNTIL MOUSEK & 2
IF PictInfo.hMemMetaFile THEN ~DeleteMetaFile(PictInfo.hMemMetaFile)

Why can I NOT load the images into memory all at one time, then put'em onscreen
at my discression?  That !@#$%$#@! progressmeter is a bitch!  It isn't in a
dialog in the *.dll, but is in the *.dll.  I can't see where to cripple it.

As long as you go thru the whole process for each image, it works GREAT, leaving
only the !@%$^@! progress meter to contend with.  I've tried jumping to an off-
screen window & even moving the mouse there, but the dialog insists on popping
up in the middle of the display.

Noted: This routine will crash & burn if you try to load images NOT in the same
dir or folder!  Can NOT have any PATH involved!  OK... John's hugeops will move
them into the home dir from anywhere, then when the program terminates, it can
delete them as one of the final steps.

Noted: The filter & *.dll appear to read the header for the real format... you
can give'em ANY extension you want (so lang as you call'em using that one), &
things run just fine.

Noted: The filter/*.dll combo can handle several formats.  I haven't figured
exactly what must be changed in the filter to make it call the others, tho.

Question 1) Has anybody played with this?
Question 2) Is there any way to kill that progressmeter?

Object: 2 appls... the screensaver & a "programmer".  The programmer will be run
to set up an *.ini file containing the filenames to run, the order to run them,
the display time & the between-images effects.  The *.scr will read this *.ini
& perform it's task as ordered.

Actually, I am working 3 appls... #3 is an installer that will put the *.scr
in the windows dir & all else elsewhere.  Since the !@#$#@! thing can't handle
the images being elsewhere, John's hugeops will have to move'em into the
windows dir, where they must be listed in the *.ini & deleted when the *.scr
shuts down.  I am looking at a hidden or encrypted file that will identify the
computer on which it has been installed.  From this file, I can block copying
the *.scr to any other computer, install a timebomb (register within 30 days
or lose it), & can even delete the cotton picker if it's messed with!

I would certainly appreciate any & all help getting this thing to display
multiple images without loading one at a time!!!!!

<G>
TomR.

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List Member "Colin Elphick" <celphick@sydpcug.org.au> wrote:
We're 2 hours into 2000 and no y2k problems.
Best wishes to an old (basic) timer from another .
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List Member "Lou Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
Hello ALL
Just us at the Brown house here Hoping that all in the GFA WORLD has ahappy
New year & that everything that all that you wish for becomes a reality
!!!!!!!!Be careful what you wish for you might Get it !!!!!!!!!!

HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!!!!! SEE YA NEXT YEAR !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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From: "Tom Record" <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net>
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Sent: Thursday, December 30, 1999 8:49 PM
Subject: Re: [gfabasic] OCX


> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Andras
> GOOD LUCK!
> I've been trying for months!  Not *that* *.ocx, but one that plays
> *.gif animations.  OCX & VBX are nothing but DLLs, but apparently
> even 16-bit ones has something wierd in their handling.
>
> I've not succeeded in getting *any* help w/ this situation.
> <G>
> TomR.
>
>
> At 04:41 PM 30/12/99 +0100, you wrote:
> >List Member "Andras Szalay" <a.szalay@mail.matav.hu> wrote:
> >Can anybody provide me an example how to call functions
> >of an *.OCX from GFA16? I am very fascinated by the LEGO
> >Mindstorms Robot Invention system that I bought for my children
> >for Christmas. It installs SPIRIT.OCX on the PC, this contains
> >all necessary functions to communicate with the mobile robot
> >through an infrared port (http://www.legomindstorms.com).
> >The OCX functions are well documented and a VB example
> >is given how to access it from own programs. Is this possible
> >from GFA16?
> >
> >Andras Szalay
> >
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List Member "Roland Walter" <roland@rowalt.de> wrote:
Hallo,
Tom had asked for an example listing
how to handle Video for Windows compressed
bitmaps which are stored in a resource
(inside exe/dll).
The attachement of this mail contains an
example listing showing this.

Happy new year, Roland



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List Member "Afonso Gustavo B. Martins" <afonsogustavo@abordo.com.br> wrote:
Hi Colin,
The fireworks in the first 30 minutes of  2000 in Sidney was one of the
most beautiful things that I ever saw.
Regards,
Gustavo


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> List Member "Colin Elphick" <celphick@sydpcug.org.au> wrote:
> We're 2 hours into 2000 and no y2k problems.
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List Member "Schoenherr, Walter" <Walter.Schoenherr@PZN-Wiesloch.de> wrote:
I think theres no way to access OCX's with GB16. It should be possible =
with
GB32 in the future!


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Von: Andras Szalay [mailto:a.szalay@mail.matav.hu]
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List Member "Andras Szalay" <a.szalay@mail.matav.hu> wrote:
Can anybody provide me an example how to call functions
of an *.OCX from GFA16? I am very fascinated by the LEGO
Mindstorms Robot Invention system that I bought for my children
for Christmas. It installs SPIRIT.OCX on the PC, this contains
all necessary functions to communicate with the mobile robot=20
through an infrared port (http://www.legomindstorms.com).
The OCX functions are well documented and a VB example
is given how to access it from own programs. Is this possible
from GFA16?

Andras Szalay

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List Member Pat Bullman <pbullman@norex.com.au> wrote:
Can anyone give me instructions on how to find out what format the date is
in when using GFA's DATE$ commands (ie either dd.mm.yyyy or mm.dd.yyyy).
My manual refers to the MODE command, which I think is something that's
available under GFADOS not under GFAWIN.

Thanks


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List Member Pat Bullman <pbullman@norex.com.au> wrote:
At 21:36 03/01/00 -0000, you wrote:
>List Member "John Findlay" <John.Findlay@Byte-it.net> wrote:
>Pat, this is all I can fathom; MODE sets the format if that's what you want.
>
>OPENW #1
>MODE 0
>PRINT DATE$
>MODE 1
>PRINT DATE$
>
>DO
>  GETEVENT
>UNTIL MENU(1) = 4
>CLOSEW #1
>


John

Close, but what I want to know is what mode is the system is currently set
at eg

If MODE = 0 THEN
  DateFormat$ =  "mm.dd.yyyy"		/* American format
ELSE
  DateFormat$ =  "dd/mm/yyyy"		/* European (and Aussie) format
ENDIF


I have a routine that converts the system date to a Julian date, but it
needs to know what format DATE$ will return.  Any ideas.


Pat

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List Member Guenther.Neumann.SR@t-online.de (Guenther Neumann) wrote:
Hi,
please could someone help me?
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List Member "John Findlay" <John.Findlay@Byte-it.net> wrote:
> List Member Pat Bullman <pbullman@norex.com.au> wrote:
>
> I have a routine that converts the system date to a Julian date, but it
> needs to know what format DATE$ will return.  Any ideas.

Not really. But, GFA will default to MODE 0

Does an American PC using GFA return a different format? I don't know the
answer. Setting the system date to another format does not seem to change
the way GFA returns it.

Dale, how does GFA16 return the DATE for you without using MODE?

PRINT DATE$

  "mm.dd.yyyy" /* American format

  "dd/mm/yyyy" /* European (and Aussie) format


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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Just printing date$ returns

02.01.2000

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> List Member "John Findlay" <John.Findlay@Byte-it.net> wrote:
> > List Member Pat Bullman <pbullman@norex.com.au> wrote:
> >
> > I have a routine that converts the system date to a Julian date, but it
> > needs to know what format DATE$ will return.  Any ideas.
>
> Not really. But, GFA will default to MODE 0
>
> Does an American PC using GFA return a different format? I don't know the
> answer. Setting the system date to another format does not seem to change
> the way GFA returns it.
>
> Dale, how does GFA16 return the DATE for you without using MODE?
>
> PRINT DATE$
>
>   "mm.dd.yyyy" /* American format
>
>   "dd/mm/yyyy" /* European (and Aussie) format
>
>
> John
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List Member "John Findlay" <John.Findlay@Byte-it.net> wrote:
> List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> Just printing date$ returns
> 
> 02.01.2000

That answers your question Pat?

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Uh, Pat...
"dd/mm/yyyy" = U.S. "long", "dd/mm/yy" = U.S. "short" UNLESS...
Many use military: dd/month(3 letters)/yyyy - I have for about 45 yrs, now.
Use of "." is European/Japanese.  Japan & *some* Europeans put the year first.
Today, for me, is 3 Jan 2000, or... when I can't control it, 03 Jan 2000.
EditMastr, which I use for e-mail, etc., uses: 02/01/2000 04:25:22 PM
Shows another difference in how time is written... 12-hr instead of 24-hr
clocks.
<G>
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>List Member Pat Bullman <pbullman@norex.com.au> wrote:
>At 21:36 03/01/00 -0000, you wrote:
>>List Member "John Findlay" <John.Findlay@Byte-it.net> wrote:
>>Pat, this is all I can fathom; MODE sets the format if that's what you want.
>>
>>OPENW #1
>>MODE 0
>>PRINT DATE$
>>MODE 1
>>PRINT DATE$
>>
>>DO
>>  GETEVENT
>>UNTIL MENU(1) = 4
>>CLOSEW #1
>>
>
>
>John
>
>Close, but what I want to know is what mode is the system is currently set
>at eg
>
>If MODE = 0 THEN
>  DateFormat$ =  "mm.dd.yyyy"		/* American format
>ELSE
>  DateFormat$ =  "dd/mm/yyyy"		/* European (and Aussie) format
>ENDIF
>
>
>I have a routine that converts the system date to a Julian date, but it
>needs to know what format DATE$ will return.  Any ideas.
>
>
>Pat
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Hey, Guys...
That's part & parcel German, w/ one acception... the day/mo is set
on each computer by the user, so it could be either way.
<G>
TomR.


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>List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
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>
>02.01.2000
>
>Dale Bryant
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>> List Member "John Findlay" <John.Findlay@Byte-it.net> wrote:
>> > List Member Pat Bullman <pbullman@norex.com.au> wrote:
>> >
>> > I have a routine that converts the system date to a Julian date, but it
>> > needs to know what format DATE$ will return.  Any ideas.
>>
>> Not really. But, GFA will default to MODE 0
>>
>> Does an American PC using GFA return a different format? I don't know the
>> answer. Setting the system date to another format does not seem to change
>> the way GFA returns it.
>>
>> Dale, how does GFA16 return the DATE for you without using MODE?
>>
>> PRINT DATE$
>>
>>   "mm.dd.yyyy" /* American format
>>
>>   "dd/mm/yyyy" /* European (and Aussie) format
>>
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>>
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List Member BDD <BrentDeck@compuserve.com> wrote:
How's this for a function to get the date mode?


OPENW #1
MODE 0
PRINT DATE$
? "Mode =3D  "; @getmode
MODE 1
PRINT DATE$
? "Mode =3D " ; @getmode
MODE 3

DO
  GETEVENT
UNTIL MENU(1) =3D 4
CLOSEW #1

FUNCTION getmode
  RETURN ASC(MID$(DATE$,3,1)) - 46
ENDFUNC

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List Member Jim Pennington <Jim@x-act.net> wrote:

Pat,

If it's your program, don't you know what MODE is set? In any case, by checking
for a "." or "/" in the third character of DATE$, you can tell which format it
is in. Don't forget, in GFAWin there are four modes, not just two as in Atari
GFA (this is undocumented!!!). For the date format, modes 0 and 2 are the same,
as are modes 1 and 3. The difference is in the way PRINT USING works (explain
_that_ connection to me!).

MODE 0 (&2) dd.mm.yyyy
MODE 1 (&3) mm/dd/yyyy

Hope this helps,

Jim Pennington

P.S. Happy new year, everyone   :)


> List Member Pat Bullman <pbullman@norex.com.au> wrote: 
> At 21:36 03/01/00 -0000, you wrote: 
> >List Member "John Findlay" <John.Findlay@Byte-it.net> wrote: 
> >Pat, this is all I can fathom; MODE sets the format if that's what you want. 
> > 
> >OPENW #1 
> >MODE 0 
> >PRINT DATE$ 
> >MODE 1 
> >PRINT DATE$ 
> > 
> >DO 
> >  GETEVENT 
> >UNTIL MENU(1) = 4 
> >CLOSEW #1 
> > 
>  
>  
> John 
>  
> Close, but what I want to know is what mode is the system is currently set 
> at eg 
>  
> If MODE = 0 THEN 
>   DateFormat$ =  "mm.dd.yyyy"		/* American format 
> ELSE 
>   DateFormat$ =  "dd/mm/yyyy"		/* European (and Aussie) format 
> ENDIF 
>  
>  
> I have a routine that converts the system date to a Julian date, but it 
> needs to know what format DATE$ will return.  Any ideas. 
>  
>  
> Pat




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List Member Pat Bullman <pbullman@norex.com.au> wrote:
Thanks to all.  Now just to confirm this.  GFA's DATE$ command will always
return "dd mm yyy", irrespective of what format the computer normally
displays the date, unless the MODE command is used.


Pat

>> List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
>> Just printing date$ returns
>> 
>> 02.01.2000
>
>That answers your question Pat?
>
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Sorry, 16-bit users... I'm NOT on the 32-bit list.  Would one of you 
who is PLEASE redirect this to that list?  It gives a URL for some 
very good Win32 documentation that is from MS.

http://www.cs.virginia.edu/~lcc-win32/

On the site above, there is a Word97 reader that reads ALL versions
of WinWord *.doc files.

Doyle, would you PLEASE post the URL for that 100M+ file you were 
discussing w/ JohnW.?  I dropped the EZWin32 project, but I think I will
be able to attempt to learn LCC after I get my back repaired.

All of this is very good material for anybody even *thinking* about getting
into 32-bit programming!

If this sounds goofy, please forgive - I'm about to go under from a BIG dose
of painkillers & am typing in my sleep.  It is 7:45 in the morning here.
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List Member "John Findlay" <John.Findlay@Byte-it.net> wrote:
Pat, this is all I can fathom; MODE sets the format if that's what you want.

OPENW #1
MODE 0
PRINT DATE$
MODE 1
PRINT DATE$

DO
  GETEVENT
UNTIL MENU(1) = 4
CLOSEW #1




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> Can anyone give me instructions on how to find out what format the date is
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> My manual refers to the MODE command, which I think is something that's
> available under GFADOS not under GFAWIN.





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List Member Doyle Whisenant <mechanic@sonet.net> wrote:
Tom Record wrote:
> 
> 
> Doyle, would you PLEASE post the URL for that 100M+ file you were
> discussing w/ JohnW.?  I dropped the EZWin32 project, but I think I will
> be able to attempt to learn LCC after I get my back repaired.

Sorry Tom, Alyce mentioned this and I quote:

It might also be a good idea to have a link to that Borland site with
the
32-bit helpfile, right there on your page.  (For us dummies who have
brains
stuck in 16-bit!)

Brent Thorn has an SDK helpfile that is 100 MEGS!  Boy, does that tell
you
Windows is complicated, or what??

unquote:

You might ask Brent. He can be reached at:

Brent Thorn  mailto:lbgui@aol.com   http://members.aol.com/lbg
 
> If this sounds goofy, please forgive - I'm about to go under from a BIG dose
> of painkillers & am typing in my sleep.  It is 7:45 in the morning here.

No problem!

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List Member Jim Pennington <Jim@x-act.net> wrote:

Pat,

So I guess your question is if the format of DATE$ is affected by any system/OS
settings? Hmmmm... good question, but I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be. It should
be just a bios call for the raw date and time, and formatting is supplied by GFA.
Date formats specified in Windoze are display formats only, and don't affect the
system date as seen by other apps.

The bottom line is that the date format should be dd.mm.yyyy for MODE 0 or 2 no
matter what. No MODE = MODE 0.

Good luck,

Jim


> List Member Pat Bullman <pbullman@norex.com.au> wrote: 
> Jim, 
>    
> Thanks, but remember the experiment that Dale did: 
>    
> > List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote: 
> > Just printing date$ returns 
> >  
> > 02.01.2000 
>    
> The DATE$ function returned the US seperator (".") but showed the date in 
> "dd mm yyyy" format. 
>  
>  
> >If it's your program, don't you know what MODE is set?  
>  
> A valid point.  However, if DATE$ returns the "dd.mm.yyyy" format on a 
> machine that (presumably) uses the US format what will happen if MODE is set? 
>  
> I'd be happy if I could confirm that the default format for DATE$ is 
> "dd.mm.yyyy", irrespective of what seperator is used. 
>  
>  
> Once again, thanks for your interest.




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List Member Pat Bullman <pbullman@norex.com.au> wrote:
Jim,

Thanks, but remember the experiment that Dale did:

> List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> Just printing date$ returns
> 
> 02.01.2000

The DATE$ function returned the US seperator (".") but showed the date in
"dd mm yyyy" format.


>If it's your program, don't you know what MODE is set? 

A valid point.  However, if DATE$ returns the "dd.mm.yyyy" format on a
machine that (presumably) uses the US format what will happen if MODE is set?

I'd be happy if I could confirm that the default format for DATE$ is
"dd.mm.yyyy", irrespective of what seperator is used.


Once again, thanks for your interest.


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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Decimals in the date is European!  Go into ControlPanel & see what the format
is set to on your computer.  You can actually change this, but please believe
,e, using periods in dates & times is NOT American.  We use the colonm : in
time & right-slash / in dates!  periods . is the rest of the world & are used
in both, time & date.  Much of the rest of the world uses 24-hr time.  Here,
only the military uses 24-hr time.

Try booting to DOS & request date$ & time$... get the hell outa GFA to see what
your computer says time & date look like!
TomR.

At 12:18 AM 05/01/00 +1100, you wrote:
>List Member Pat Bullman <pbullman@norex.com.au> wrote:
>Jim,
>
>Thanks, but remember the experiment that Dale did:
>
>> List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
>> Just printing date$ returns
>> 
>> 02.01.2000
>
>The DATE$ function returned the US seperator (".") but showed the date in
>"dd mm yyyy" format.
>
>
>>If it's your program, don't you know what MODE is set? 
>
>A valid point.  However, if DATE$ returns the "dd.mm.yyyy" format on a
>machine that (presumably) uses the US format what will happen if MODE is set?
>
>I'd be happy if I could confirm that the default format for DATE$ is
>"dd.mm.yyyy", irrespective of what seperator is used.
>
>
>Once again, thanks for your interest.
>
>
>Pat
>
>
>
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List Member Vogel Michael <vo@schoeller.at> wrote:
Hi there,

I'm trying to automate my desktop (Win 3.1 of course), what means desktop
wallpaper, colors, etc...

the following makes the first part (wallpaper), but how to change the color
(of the desktop) ???

DLL #1,"user"
  DECL BOOL SystemParametersInfo(w,w,l,w)
ENDDLL

max& = 1
DIM name$(max&),file$(max&),tile&(max&),color$(max&)
DATA &Pinguin,piblack,0,32 32 32
FOR i& = 1 TO max&
  READ name$(i&),file$(i&),tile&(i&),color$(i&)
NEXT i&
'dialog #10,1
'
x& = 2
bitmap$ = "E:\HUGO\PICS\" + UPPER$(TRIM$(file$(x&))) + ".BMP" + CHR$(0)
~WriteProfileString("colors","Background",color$(x&))
~WriteProfileString("desktop","TileWallPaper",STR$(tile&(x&)))
~^SystemParametersInfo(20,0,V:bitmap$,$3)
// ~^SystemParametersInfo(21,0,-1,$3) sets the Pattern, but not the color !
FREEDLL 1

// SYSCOL COLOR_DESKTOP,color%,dummy% // does not work, because it can't be
used for user defined RGB colors, and it is only temporarely, after
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List Member "Afonso Gustavo B. Martins" <afonsogustavo@abordo.com.br> wrote:
hi,
I think mode 0 is the default and always return the date in this format:
dd mm aaaa with the default separator "."


Pat Bullman wrote:

> List Member Pat Bullman <pbullman@norex.com.au> wrote:
> Jim,
>
> Thanks, but remember the experiment that Dale did:
>
> > List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> > Just printing date$ returns
> >
> > 02.01.2000
>
> The DATE$ function returned the US seperator (".") but showed the date in
> "dd mm yyyy" format.
>
> >If it's your program, don't you know what MODE is set?
>
> A valid point.  However, if DATE$ returns the "dd.mm.yyyy" format on a
> machine that (presumably) uses the US format what will happen if MODE is set?
>
> I'd be happy if I could confirm that the default format for DATE$ is
> "dd.mm.yyyy", irrespective of what seperator is used.
>
> Once again, thanks for your interest.
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
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List Member Pat Bullman <pbullman@norex.com.au> wrote:
I'm developing an application in which the main window has a menu and a
"Button Bar" holding several shortcut icons.

What I'm having trouble doing is resizing the Client Area so that the
Button Bar does not get hidden beyond the moveable child windows that are
used.

I've done this before when using GFA's PARENTW to create the window, but
this does not seem to work when the window is created using the API
CreateWindow().

Can anyone help, please?

This works:
PARENTW #1, 0, 0, 400, 300, Style%			 '=> Open Window
hClient& = GetTopWindow(WIN(1))			 '=> Get handle to Client Window
~MoveWindow(hClient&, 0, 50, _X, _Y - 100, TRUE) '=> Resize & re-position
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List Member John Findlay <Jayef@compuserve.com> wrote:

Pat,

>What I'm having trouble doing is resizing the Client Area so that the
Button Bar does not get hidden beyond the moveable child windows that are=

used.<

The way I would do it is to create a client window within the main window=

who's top is below the toolbar. Make all child windows children of the
client window not the main window.

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List Member Pat Bullman <pbullman@norex.com.au> wrote:
>The way I would do it is to create a client window within the main window
>who's top is below the toolbar. Make all child windows children of the
>client window not the main window.

John,

OK, but how do you get the handle for the Client window.

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List Member "John Findlay" <John.Findlay@Byte-it.net> wrote:
Pat,

> List Member Pat Bullman <pbullman@norex.com.au> wrote:
> >The way I would do it is to create a client window within the main window
> >who's top is below the toolbar. Make all child windows children of the
> >client window not the main window.
>
> John,
>
> OK, but how do you get the handle for the Client window.
>
> Pat

Perhaps you are thinking of the client area of the main window. That is not
what I mean.

You have to create a client window to sit inside the main window.

Perhaps I should have explained in more detail.

Create a class and main window.

Create a new class and window for the toolbar.

Create a new class and window for client with no title bar etc. The client
window will sit inside the main window as a backdrop, so to say, but sitting
below the toolbar. All other child windows will be children of the client.
This way they can't be pulled up over the toolbar.

So all the windows will have their own PROCEDURE to receive messages.
When the WM_SIZE message arrives for the main window, send messages to any
other window that needs re-sizing.

PROCEDURE MainWndProc(hWnd&, wMessage&, wParam&, lParam%)

  SELECT wMessage&

  CASE WM_SIZE
    ~SendMessage(hWndToolBar&, WM_SIZE, 0, 0)
    ~SendMessage(hWndRulerBarVert&, WM_SIZE, 0, 0)
    ~SendMessage(hWndRulerBarHorz&, WM_SIZE, 0, 0)
    ~SendMessage(hWndClient&, WM_SIZE, 0, 0)

PROCEDURE ClientWndProc(hWnd&, wMessage&, wParam&, lParam%)

  SELECT wMessage&

  CASE WM_SIZE
    ~GetClientRect(hWndMain&, *rect1.)
    ~GetClientRect(hToolBar&, *rect2.) // Make adjustment for the toolbar
    ~MoveWindow(hWnd&, rect1.left, rect1.top + rect2.bottom, rect1.right,
rect1.bottom - rect2.bottom, TRUE)


PROCEDURE ToolBarWndProc(hWnd&, wMessage&, wParam&, lParam%)

  SWITCH wMessage&

  CASE WM_SIZE
    ~GetClientRect(hWndMain&, *rect1.)
    ~MoveWindow(hWnd&, 0, 0, rect1.right, 30, TRUE)

Etc.

If you don't have joy I'll send you something.

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List Member Pat Bullman <pbullman@norex.com.au> wrote:
John,

I'm still not sure what you mean, maybe a sample would help.

>Perhaps you are thinking of the client area of the main window. That is not
>what I mean.
>You have to create a client window to sit inside the main window.

I always thought that the "client area" was a separate window which was
created whenever a 'parent' window was created.  Maybe I need to go back
and do some more research on this matter.

Thanks for your assistance so far.

Pat

At 14:35 08/01/00 -0000, you wrote:
>List Member "John Findlay" <John.Findlay@Byte-it.net> wrote:
>Pat,
>
>> List Member Pat Bullman <pbullman@norex.com.au> wrote:
>> >The way I would do it is to create a client window within the main window
>> >who's top is below the toolbar. Make all child windows children of the
>> >client window not the main window.
>>
>> John,
>>
>> OK, but how do you get the handle for the Client window.
>>
>> Pat
>
>
>
>Perhaps I should have explained in more detail.
>
>Create a class and main window.
>
>Create a new class and window for the toolbar.
>
>Create a new class and window for client with no title bar etc. The client
>window will sit inside the main window as a backdrop, so to say, but sitting
>below the toolbar. All other child windows will be children of the client.
>This way they can't be pulled up over the toolbar.
>
>So all the windows will have their own PROCEDURE to receive messages.
>When the WM_SIZE message arrives for the main window, send messages to any
>other window that needs re-sizing.
>
>PROCEDURE MainWndProc(hWnd&, wMessage&, wParam&, lParam%)
>
>  SELECT wMessage&
>
>  CASE WM_SIZE
>    ~SendMessage(hWndToolBar&, WM_SIZE, 0, 0)
>    ~SendMessage(hWndRulerBarVert&, WM_SIZE, 0, 0)
>    ~SendMessage(hWndRulerBarHorz&, WM_SIZE, 0, 0)
>    ~SendMessage(hWndClient&, WM_SIZE, 0, 0)
>
>PROCEDURE ClientWndProc(hWnd&, wMessage&, wParam&, lParam%)
>
>  SELECT wMessage&
>
>  CASE WM_SIZE
>    ~GetClientRect(hWndMain&, *rect1.)
>    ~GetClientRect(hToolBar&, *rect2.) // Make adjustment for the toolbar
>    ~MoveWindow(hWnd&, rect1.left, rect1.top + rect2.bottom, rect1.right,
>rect1.bottom - rect2.bottom, TRUE)
>
>
>PROCEDURE ToolBarWndProc(hWnd&, wMessage&, wParam&, lParam%)
>
>  SWITCH wMessage&
>
>  CASE WM_SIZE
>    ~GetClientRect(hWndMain&, *rect1.)
>    ~MoveWindow(hWnd&, 0, 0, rect1.right, 30, TRUE)
>
>Etc.
>
>If you don't have joy I'll send you something.
>
>John
>
>
>
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Just now available. DLLCODE.ZIP by Bev Brown. This has some great routines.
Grab it!
Dale

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List Member "Sjaak Aarnoutse" <aarnouts@zeelandnet.nl> wrote:
For a console based DOS utility I would like the screen output to 
be redirectable to a file. In C it would be possible to write to the 
predefined stream  "stdout".  

By using the following command screenoutput would be captured 
in the file out.txt.

c:\ > progname >> out.txt 

How do I achieve this behaviour in GFA-DOS? Can I?

I already tried opening a file-channel to CON:, but to no avail.



met vriendelijke groet,

Sjaak Aarnoutse

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Hi guys & gals, happy new century!

Has anyone developed an eloquent (working) solution to returning the =
CORRECT  Week Number from a Date?


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Hi from Brighton Le Sands.
What is the definition of the CORRECT week number.
Does week 1 start on the first of January or on the Sunday preceding the =
first.
I'm sure that an elegant or working answer is possible in BASIC.

Colin Elphick
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  Subject: [gfabasic] Week Number.


  Hi guys & gals, happy new century!
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Aha!

This is the burning question!

I am very interested to find other peoples opinions on this subject, =
take this year for example. January 1st falls on a Saturday, my opinion =
is that for this year week one should end on the following Saturday =
January 8th.

The question is, if Jan 1 in any year falls on a Monday, does week one =
end on Saturday Jan 6. Or if Jan 1 say, falls on a Friday or Thursday =
does week one end on the immediate following Saturday or the following =
weeks Saturday? Depending on what day Jan 1 falls on how does one decide =
how much of a week should be defined as week 1? Wed, Thur, Fri? It is =
obvious that if Jan one falls on a Monday or Tuesday then week one =
should end on the immediate following Saturday.

Reuben Carlsen
RMC (Information Systems)
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<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial size=3D2>I am very interested to =
find other=20
peoples opinions on this subject, take this year for example. January =
1st falls=20
on a Saturday, my opinion is that for this year week one should end on =
the=20
following Saturday January 8th.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial size=3D2>The question is, if Jan =
1 in any year=20
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falls=20
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the immediate following Saturday.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Reuben Carlsen</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>RMC (Information Systems)</FONT></DIV>
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Uhhhhhhh... I suspect you start counting from 1 Jan, Boss.  If not, you will
miss the count one way or another.  There are 52 weeks.  Begin counting before
1Jan (Sunday, for example), & you wind up w/ 53 weeks.  Start the *next Sunday
& you wind up w/ only 51 of'em.

For me, by date is best.  Then, of course, ya gotta handle leapyear <G>.  I
forget
how much time that adds to a year but I think it's only the one day, 29 Feb.

I'll have to look for it... I have a routine in LibertyBasic that accounts for
leapyears.
<G>
TomR.


At 02:36 PM 13/01/00 +1100, you wrote:
>Aha!
>
>This is the burning question!
>
>I am very interested to find other peoples opinions on this subject, take
this year for example. January 1st falls on a Saturday, my opinion is that
for this year week one should end on the following Saturday January 8th.
>
>The question is, if Jan 1 in any year falls on a Monday, does week one end
on Saturday Jan 6. Or if Jan 1 say, falls on a Friday or Thursday does week
one end on the immediate following Saturday or the following weeks Saturday?
Depending on what day Jan 1 falls on how does one decide how much of a week
should be defined as week 1? Wed, Thur, Fri? It is obvious that if Jan one
falls on a Monday or Tuesday then week one should end on the immediate
following Saturday.
>
>Reuben Carlsen
>RMC (Information Systems)
>Sydney Australia
>
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><DIV><FONT color=#000000 face=Arial size=2>Aha!</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT color=#000000 face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
><DIV><FONT color=#000000 face=Arial size=2>This is the burning 
>question!</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT color=#000000 face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
><DIV><FONT color=#000000 face=Arial size=2>I am very interested to find other 
>peoples opinions on this subject, take this year for example. January 1st
falls 
>on a Saturday, my opinion is that for this year week one should end on the 
>following Saturday January 8th.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT color=#000000 face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
><DIV><FONT color=#000000 face=Arial size=2>The question is, if Jan 1 in any
year 
>falls on a Monday, does week one end on Saturday Jan 6. Or if Jan 1 say, falls 
>on a Friday or Thursday does week one end on the immediate following
Saturday or 
>the following weeks Saturday? Depending on what day Jan 1 falls on how does
one 
>decide how much of a week should be defined as week 1? Wed, Thur, Fri? It is 
>obvious that if Jan one falls on a Monday or Tuesday then week one should
end on 
>the immediate following Saturday.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT color=#000000 face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Reuben Carlsen</FONT></DIV>
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List Member "Andras Szalay" <a.szalay@mail.matav.hu> wrote:
Sjaak Aarnoutse wrote:
>>For a console based DOS utility I would like the screen output to 
>>be redirectable to a file. In C it would be possible to write to the 
>>predefined stream  "stdout".  
>>How do I achieve this behaviour in GFA-DOS? Can I?
>>I already tried opening a file-channel to CON:, but to no avail.

Sjaak, I do not understand your problem, the following
program works in GFA DOS:

OPEN "O",#1,"CON:"
PRINT #1,"ABCDEFGH"
CLOSE #1

The result is written on the screen.

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List Member "Sjaak Aarnoutse" <aarnouts@zeelandnet.nl> wrote:
> >>For a console based DOS utility I would like the screen output to 
> >>be redirectable to a file. In C it would be possible to write to the 
> >>predefined stream  "stdout".  
> >>How do I achieve this behaviour in GFA-DOS? Can I?
> >>I already tried opening a file-channel to CON:, but to no avail.
> 
> Sjaak, I do not understand your problem, the following
> program works in GFA DOS:
> 
> OPEN "O",#1,"CON:"
> PRINT #1,"ABCDEFGH"
> CLOSE #1
> 

Hello Andras,

OK, this program prints to the screen, 
but now we compile it to TEST.EXE


Now I execute it using redirection, in example:

     TEST > RESULT.LOG  

It will still write to the screen, and not to the file "RESULT.LOG" 
(DOS will create the file, but it will remain empty, while it should 
contain the string: ABCDEFGH





 



met vriendelijke groet,

Sjaak Aarnoutse

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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
I am still looking for information on ANY Gfa programmers

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4. Some personal/family facts if you desire.
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
This is a plea for contributions for the GFA16 news letter.  Please remember
that it is your news letter and that I am just sharing what others have
done. I just do not have time to maintain a web site dedicated to GFA,
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Constants by Russell Hayward has been updated today!
This is really a good programming tool so grab it!
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----- Original Message -----
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> Dear Dale,
>
> I am an old GFA basic users (MS-DOS version and Windows version). Only
> yesterday I discovered this site from AltaVista and I am sending you this
> mail for help. I am now using the version 4.37 of GFA for Windows and I am
> not able to fix this curious problem:
>
> 1. I start Windows (95 or 98)
> 2. I use my compiled program
> 3. I close the program
> 4. I close Windows
> 5. I get a message error 0D from Windows.
>
> I have found that if:
>
> 1. I start Windows
> 2. I compile my program
> 3. I use my program
> 4. I close the program
> 5. I close Windows
>
> the error is not detected.
>
> I have also found that if:
>
> 1. I include the command Shell "Dir c:" in the source program
> 2. I recompile the program
>
> the error is fixed. Unfortunately this way is not smart and gives an
> unneeded message from Windows 98. On my Windows 95 sistem in gives also a
> blinking of the screen.
>
> Dale, could you please help me ?
>
> Do you know how to fix this problem ?
>
> In any case, is it available a list of bugs found and fixed in GFA Basic
> for Windows ? I was not able to find this list (I have explored also the
> site ww.gfasoft.gfa.net).
>
> Can GFA32 solve the problem ?
>
> Thank you in advance for your help.
>
> Michele Francesca
> via Enrico da Monza 20
> 20052 Monza - Milano
>
> nuovilibri@iol.it
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Hi,
I forwarded your message to the GFA mail list. If I get an answer I will
forward it to you.
Dale

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> List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
>
> Dale Bryant
> http://gfawhelp.gfa.net
> adbryant@msn.com
> adbryant@gfa.net
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michele Francesca" <nuovilibri@iol.it>
> To: <adbryant@gfa.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2000 11:07 AM
> Subject: Bugs in GFA-Basic for Windows
>
>
> > Dear Dale,
> >
> > I am an old GFA basic users (MS-DOS version and Windows version). Only
> > yesterday I discovered this site from AltaVista and I am sending you
this
> > mail for help. I am now using the version 4.37 of GFA for Windows and I
am
> > not able to fix this curious problem:
> >
> > 1. I start Windows (95 or 98)
> > 2. I use my compiled program
> > 3. I close the program
> > 4. I close Windows
> > 5. I get a message error 0D from Windows.
> >
> > I have found that if:
> >
> > 1. I start Windows
> > 2. I compile my program
> > 3. I use my program
> > 4. I close the program
> > 5. I close Windows
> >
> > the error is not detected.
> >
> > I have also found that if:
> >
> > 1. I include the command Shell "Dir c:" in the source program
> > 2. I recompile the program
> >
> > the error is fixed. Unfortunately this way is not smart and gives an
> > unneeded message from Windows 98. On my Windows 95 sistem in gives also
a
> > blinking of the screen.
> >
> > Dale, could you please help me ?
> >
> > Do you know how to fix this problem ?
> >
> > In any case, is it available a list of bugs found and fixed in GFA Basic
> > for Windows ? I was not able to find this list (I have explored also the
> > site ww.gfasoft.gfa.net).
> >
> > Can GFA32 solve the problem ?
> >
> > Thank you in advance for your help.
> >
> > Michele Francesca
> > via Enrico da Monza 20
> > 20052 Monza - Milano
> >
> > nuovilibri@iol.it
> >
>
>
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
I have a friend, Mark Feaver who is the author of a great Karaoke program
written in GFA16 Basic. He wants to upgrade the player but desperately needs
a routine to handle long file names for GFA16. I thought I had something but
have failed to locate it so far.
Any help will be appreciated.
Dale

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Dale,

> I have a friend, Mark Feaver who is the author of a great Karaoke program
> written in GFA16 Basic. He wants to upgrade the player but desperately
needs
> a routine to handle long file names for GFA16. I thought I had something
but
> have failed to locate it so far.
> Any help will be appreciated.

I thought this example might be useful, it wont work on NT though.

HTH,
Russell Hayward

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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
HI Russell,
Thanks, I am sure that Mark will appreciated it. I certainly do. Your so
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Dale

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> Dale,
>
> > I have a friend, Mark Feaver who is the author of a great Karaoke
program
> > written in GFA16 Basic. He wants to upgrade the player but desperately
> needs
> > a routine to handle long file names for GFA16. I thought I had something
> but
> > have failed to locate it so far.
> > Any help will be appreciated.
>
> I thought this example might be useful, it wont work on NT though.
>
> HTH,
> Russell Hayward
>
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List Member Walmsley <k.walmsley@uclan.ac.uk> wrote:
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Can anyone help?

I use the following gfaw code to display the results from assorted 
tasks performed by students in our phychology dept.

 IF EXIST ("c:\windows\notepad.exe")
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Does anyone know how to shut down notepad from within the 
same gfabasic program?

Any help will be much appreciated.

Keith Walmsley.
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
IT DOESN'T HURT TO LAUGH!


If Windows were put out by rednecks....

Their #1 product would be "Mikersoft Winders."

Instead of an hourglass icon, you'd get an empty beer bottle.

Occasionally, you would bring up a winder that was covered with a
Hefty bag and some duct tape.

Dialog boxes would give you the choice of "Ahh-right!," "Naw", or
"Git."

Instead of "Ta-da!" the opening sound would be dueling banjos.

The "Recycle Bin" in Winders 95 would be an outhouse.

Instead of "Start Me Up," the Winders 95 theme song would be
"Achy-Breaky Heart."

Power Point would be called "ParPawnt."

The Winders 95 logo would incorporate the confederate flag.

Instead of "VP," Mikersoft big shots would be called "Cuz."

Hardware could be repaired using parts from an old Trans Am.

Four words: Daisy Duke Screen Saver.

"Well, the first thing you know, old Bill's a billionaire."

Flight Simulator would be replaced by Tractor Pull Simulator.

Mikersoft CEO: Billy-Bob (a.k.a. "Bubba") Gates.

Internet addresses would begin with "dubya, dubya, dubya."

When your software goes down, you would no longer receive the message
"A fatal exception has occurred," but rather "You gone and done it
now!


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List Member gunnar.boenicke@t-online.de (Gunnar Boenicke) wrote:
Hi Keith,

try this. Mayby not all lines are nessesary. I kill the german T-ONLINE with
this, and
sometimes a normal WM_CLOSE was not enough.

Bye

Gunnar

// The following works with all programs.
// You must input the exact name of the window.
// Example: In germany Notepad call Editor. I start Notepad and then i call
// a file named >Textcamp.d<
// In the menu of Notepad will show >>  Textcamp.d - Editor  <<
// so: nname$=Textcamp.d - Editor
REPEAT
  INPUT nname$
  a& = FindWindow(0,nname$ + CHR$(0))
UNTIL a& > 0
? "Find ";nname$
REPEAT
  PEEKEVENT
  a& = FindWindow(0,nname$ + CHR$(0))
  IF a& > 0
    a% = SendMessage(a&,WM_CLOSE,0,0)
    error_zeit% = TIMER
    REPEAT
      PEEKEVENT
      a& = FindWindow(0,nname$ + CHR$(0))
    UNTIL TIMER - error_zeit% > 1000 OR a& = 0
    a% = SendMessage(a&,WM_DESTROY,0,0)
    error_zeit% = TIMER
    REPEAT
      PEEKEVENT
      a& = FindWindow(0,nname$ + CHR$(0))
    UNTIL TIMER - error_zeit% > 1000 OR a& = 0
  ENDIF
UNTIL a& = 0
? "Kill ";nname$
STOP


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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Coming today to the GFAWHELP web site is Kaleidoscope by David Wicker. You
are in for treat with this code so don't miss it!

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List Member Walmsley <k.walmsley@uclan.ac.uk> wrote:
From:           	Walmsley <k.walmsley@uclan.ac.uk>
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Date sent:      Frid, 21 Jan 2000 09:28:29 BST

Reply to Gunnar Boenicke.

Thankyou Gunnar very much.

I tried your code last evening and it works a treat.

I'm as pleased as Punch.

All the best.

Keith. W

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List Member UlliStemmeler@t-online.de (Ulli Stemmeler) wrote:
Hello Dale,

I am not sure how to send my message to the GFA32-list. I should be in bo=
th=20
lists, sometimes I get mails and I never know what is for 16-bit and what=
 for=20
32-bit.
I need some help for the following thing:
I am writing a clipboard-utility (with GFA32) and I don't know how to fin=
d out=20
the graphic extensions of a graphic in a "picture%"-variable, that you ma=
ke in=20
things like " get x1,y1,x2,y2,picture% ". It was easy in GFA-16 --->
 =20
  buffer$$ =3D SPACE$(20)
  ~GetObject(picture%,20,V:buffer$)   // reading from the header of the g=
raphic
  width% =3D WORD{V:buffer$ + 2},height% =3D WORD{V:buffer$ + 4}

in GFA32 "getobject()" doesn't work any more the same way. Somewhere I re=
ad that=20
"getobject()" has to be exchanged with "GetGdiObject()", but this isn't w=
orking=20
the same way. Unfortunately I can find no explications.
On the other hand, you can't move a "picture%"-string into a picture-obje=
ct (in=20
GFA32).
Although you can do this:
image.picture=3DLoadPicture(file_on_disk$)
and then
picture%=3Dimage.picture
put x,y,picture%

the way back (image.picture=3Dpicture%) is not possible, I recieve an=20
error-message from GFA32. This would be a solution, if it would be possib=
le to=20
move a "Get-string" (let's call it so) into a picture-object, cause in th=
is you=20
find the graphic extensions easiliy.
I need to know this, because I want to load a graphic from the clipboard=20
(that's:  picture% =3D GetClipboardData(CF_BITMAP)). This work's, but I w=
ant to=20
change my window's extensions to the extensions of the graphic. But how c=
an I do=20
this if I cannot find out how they are ?

Could please someone help me ?

Sincerley

Ulli Stemmeler
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
There seems to be some confusion on who is operating the GFA16 and the GFA32
mail list. Both these list are operated by Gfa Software Technologies.  I
just belong to the list like everyone else.
I DO NOT OPERATE ANY MAIL LIST FOR GFA!
I DO SEND A WEEKLY NEWS LETTER FOR BOTH GFA 16 /32
Thanks

Dale Bryant
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
It is here!
GFADLL5.ZIP
by Bev Brown, the author of GFADLL4. All .gfw routines are included so you
can easily adapt them to your own programs.
Supports Long File Names
Supports Long Folder Names

and,
what a great list of routines.
DON'T MISS THIS ONE!

Download it now from http://gfawhelp.gfa.net

Just click on GFA16 button and There it is!
Dale
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List Member "Engel Nobbe" <bluez@celestial.demon.nl> wrote:
I'm a bit at a loss. I've been trying to figure out how to deal with fonts,
and I think I'm mostly there, but not fully (sigh).

Here are the issues:

1. As far as I can tell, the only way to deduce the font ratio width /
height is by first loading that font. Is that correct? That would mean that
if I would like to load a font with a certain size, I first have to load it
without defining a size so I can retrieve the width / height ratio, then I
have to free that font, calculate the new width based on the height, and
then reload that font with the appropriate width / height settings.... Ugh.

2. For every change in font attributes I have to use a new set of FONT
commands, resulting in the use of another FONT TO ... and SETFONT .... Is
there another way to change the attribs of a font that I already set up with
SETFONT?

3. Some samples I have seen only include a single FREEFONT command when
dealing with multiple fonts or variations of that font. I guess that should
me multiple FREEFONTS for every FONT TO / SETFONT, am I correct?

4. I haven't been able to use FONT x$ where x$ contains the font name. Only
FONT "font name" appears to work.

5. Is there a proper way to exactly find out how much memory is allocated
from within GFA? I found a small sample code in the GFAwhelp library, but if
I have to trust that one, it appears that window never frees up the memory
once allocated to fonts. I could envision this behaviour, as Windows is
probably freeing up that memory only when it's need for something else, I
guess... euh...

Replies are welcome...

( lost me? find me! http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Stargate/8257 )

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
see4vb32.zip, 220k, 16-bit & 32-bit dlls for e-mail w/ attachments
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List Member "Georg Veichtlbauer" <veichtlbauer@gmx.at> wrote:
YELL! ;-)

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List Member Doyle Whisenant <mechanic@sonet.net> wrote:
Hi Tom, I'd like to see this.

Tom Record wrote:
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> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
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> send direct.  Is new, copyrighted in 2000.
> <G>
> TomR.
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List Member "Malcolm Jack Howard" <machoward@bigpond.com> wrote:
I need to produce an installation program. I know little of Windows API and
can see no way of copying a file from one location to another with the GFA
instruction set. I have come across CopyFile (Windows API) but can make no
sense of the syntax.

Is there a help file available for Windows API?

Is there a GFW program that will install program files or can be modified to
do so ?

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List Member "Russell Hayward" <russ@softhome.net> wrote:

Hi,

> I need to produce an installation program. I know little of Windows API
and
> can see no way of copying a file from one location to another with the GFA
> instruction set. I have come across CopyFile (Windows API) but can make no
> sense of the syntax.

CopyFile is a 32-bit function, this means you have to use thunking to call
it. This is not the easiest thing for a beginner to the API, there are
instructions of how to do it on my site
www.baphead.freeserve.co.uk/expert.html. I have written an installation
program, well, it's half finished, might be helpful to you
http://lightning.prohosting.com/~tarq/files/install.gfw, it has a function
to copy files of any size. That URL might not work until tomorrow,
connection problems.

> Is there a help file available for Windows API?

Yep, a very useful one http://www.baphead.freeserve.co.uk/win31wh.zip.

HTH,
Russell Hayward

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Hi Mac,

> I need to produce an installation program. I know little of Windows API and
> can see no way of copying a file from one location to another with the GFA
> instruction set. I have come across CopyFile (Windows API) but can make no
> sense of the syntax.

The easiest way to copy files without taking care about file-, buffer-
and block-sizes is to use the LZExpand-functions. The primary intention
of this DLL is to uncompress files that are compressed with the old
MSDOS compress.exe (usualy marked with an extension of two letters and a
underline, s.a. "notepad.ex_"). But it also copies "normal" files. I
attached an screensaver instal example - between the slash lines is the
lzexpand related code.

Engelbert
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Mac
There are several installers written in GFA-W(16) that can be modified.
There are ways to copy files back & forth.

If time isn't extremely critical, I will send you some of these files
later tonight.  It's noon here.
<G>
TomR.


At 03:04 PM 24/01/00 +0800, you wrote:
>List Member "Malcolm Jack Howard" <machoward@bigpond.com> wrote:
>I need to produce an installation program. I know little of Windows API and
>can see no way of copying a file from one location to another with the GFA
>instruction set. I have come across CopyFile (Windows API) but can make no
>sense of the syntax.
>
>Is there a help file available for Windows API?
>
>Is there a GFW program that will install program files or can be modified to
>do so ?
>
>Mac Howard
>
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List Member "Sjaak Aarnoutse" <aarnouts@zeelandnet.nl> wrote:
Personnaly I would avoid using external DLL's etc for a trivial function like copying files.

For plain copying try the following routine, for install program I'm 
sure Dale can help you out.

Function copyfile(a$, b$)    // a$=sourcefile incl. pathname 
  Local bytes%, blok% = 8192 , this%, tr%   // b$=destination 
(incl. path)
  tr% = mAlloc(blok%)       // get pointer to some memoryblock
  If Exist(a$)
    Try
      Open a$ for Input As # 1
      Open b$ for Random As # 2
      bytes% = LOF(# 1)
      done% = 0
      While done% < bytes%
        PeekEvent    // useful for extremely large files
        this% = Min(Sub(bytes%, done%), blok%)
        BGet  # 1, tr%, this%
        BPut  # 2, tr%, this%
        done% += this%
      Wend
      Close  # 1
      Close # 2
    EndIf
    Void mFree(tr%)
    Return done%
  Catch
    ~MsgBox("Error copying " + a$)
    Return 0  
  EndFunc

met vriendelijke groet,

Sjaak Aarnoutse

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List Member "Malcolm Jack Howard" <machoward@bigpond.com> wrote:
Thanks guys, I'll get to work on your various suggestions.

>Personnaly I would avoid using external DLL's etc for a trivial function
like copying files.


I had originally thought it would be trivial but quickly found that it
wasn't - at least not by my definitions <g>

This is the information I have on the syntax for CopyFile from a MS
web site:


BOOL CopyFile(
   LPCTSTR  lpExistingFileName,
   LPCTSTR  lpNewFileName,
   BOOL  bFailExists
);


The lp.......FileName parameters are described as Pointers to a
null-terminated string
that specify the name of the existing/new file and the bFailExists described
as a TRUE/FALSE parameter that defines what should be done in the case of
NewFileName already existing ie overwrite or abort

It all seems very straightforward but there's no indication of how to
determine the pointers - presumably they're
memory addresses.


Also, I would like something that will work with Win 3.1. From your answers
II now assume that CopyFile would not even if I sort out the syntax and
parameters. Is that right?


Thanks again. I'll watch for your further reply Tom.

Mac Howard





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Hi there !

I am using gfabasic version 4.36 and I find that I cannot place a
string longer than 255 characters using ~SendMessage to a
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List Member "Russell Hayward" <russ@softhome.net> wrote:
Hi Brian,

> I am using gfabasic version 4.36 and I find that I cannot place a
> string longer than 255 characters using ~SendMessage to a
> Listbox Control. Whereas  OPENW #n creates a window in
> which I can place any length of string.
>
> Does anyone out there have a solution to this problem ?

I think the problem might be that you are letting GFA do too much. :-) If
you pass a string to an API like this:

i$="String to pass"
~SendMessage(ListBox,LB_ADDSTRING,0,i$)

GFA puts the string into a temporary buffer, puts a CHR$(0) on the end, and
then passes the address of that to the API function. Unfortunately, GFA have
decided that this temporary buffer should be no more than 250 odd
characters. The way to get around this is to pass the address yourself:

i$="String to pass"+CHR$(0)
~SendMessage(ListBox,LB_ADDSTRING,0,V:i$)

HTH,
Russell Hayward

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List Member "Malcolm Jack Howard" <machoward@bigpond.com> wrote:
I've tried the solutions offered by Russel and Sjaak - they're very similar
in fact and, at the moment, their code mneans more to me than the use of a
DLL. But both run out of steam when the file size gets up.

Both will copy a 55k file but cannot copy the 157k file I have and certainly
not the 1.27 Mbyte file I have. I've adjusted the memory allocation size in
Sjaak's example and the dimension of copy|(32768) to copy%(1500000) in
Russell's copy procedure.

Both return the error "Peek/Poke/Call Address Error" on the BGET line with
the bigger files.

Is there ayway I can expand the size of file with the BGET and BPUT code
examples?

Tom. Your email with the file attached was corrupted. I'd appreciate if you
could send it again.

Thanks all,

Mac Howard


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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Mac
Will have to rebuild it - deleted.
Meanwhile...
This is lightning fast copying a 4M file somewhere else!
'====================================================================
'
' HugeRead & HugeWrite routines using API's _hread() & _hwrite().
'
' John Findlay
'
'====================================================================
'DEFINT "l" %                   ' 32 bit/long
'DEFWRD "h,n" &                 ' 16 bit/word
'DEFBYT "i" |                   '  8 bit/byte

hkernel& = LoadLibrary("kernel.dll")  // Needed for _hread/_hwrite etc

OPENW #1, 2, 0, _X - 20, _Y - 20, ~15
FILESELECT "*.*","",n$
n& = RINSTR(n$,"\")
? n&
n1$ = RIGHT$(n$,LEN(n$) - n&)
n2$ = "e:\" + n1$
? n$
? n1$
? n2$
OPEN "I",#1, n$
lenght% = LOF( #1)
lpMem% = MALLOC(lenght%)
CLOSE #1

' Read in Huge Block or Small Block
OPEN "I", #1, n$
PRINT "Read File Size", LOF(#1)
PRINT "Bytes Read", @HugeRead(_FILE(1), lpMem%, lenght%)
CLOSE #1

' Write out Huge Block or Small Block
OPEN "O", #1, n2$
PRINT "The Bytes Sent", @HugeWrite(_FILE(1), lpMem%, lenght%)
CLOSE #1

~MFREE(lpMem)
IF hkernel&  THEN ~FreeLibrary(hkernel&)
KEYGET l%
CLOSEW #1
EDIT

FUNCTION  HugeRead(hFile&, lpBuffer%, lBytes%)
  RETURN P:(GetProcAddress(hkernel&, "_hread"))(hFile&, L:lpBuffer%, L:lBytes%)
ENDFUNC

FUNCTION  HugeWrite(hFile&, lpBuffer%, lBytes%)
  RETURN P:(GetProcAddress(hkernel&, "_hwrite"))(hFile&, L:lpBuffer%, L:lBytes%)
ENDFUNC


At 12:22 PM 26/01/00 +0800, you wrote:
>List Member "Malcolm Jack Howard" <machoward@bigpond.com> wrote:
>I've tried the solutions offered by Russel and Sjaak - they're very similar
>in fact and, at the moment, their code mneans more to me than the use of a
>DLL. But both run out of steam when the file size gets up.
>
>Both will copy a 55k file but cannot copy the 157k file I have and certainly
>not the 1.27 Mbyte file I have. I've adjusted the memory allocation size in
>Sjaak's example and the dimension of copy|(32768) to copy%(1500000) in
>Russell's copy procedure.
>
>Both return the error "Peek/Poke/Call Address Error" on the BGET line with
>the bigger files.
>
>Is there ayway I can expand the size of file with the BGET and BPUT code
>examples?
>
>Tom. Your email with the file attached was corrupted. I'd appreciate if you
>could send it again.
>
>Thanks all,
>
>Mac Howard
>
>
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List Member "Malcolm Jack Howard" <machoward@bigpond.com> wrote:
I have found a kludge. I tried BLOAD and BSAVE instead of BGET and BPUT in
code based on Sjaak's and Russell's examples. It was better - it didn't
produce an error message but the saved file was shorter than it should have
been with the 157 kbyte file.

I don't now know why, maybe desperation, but I tried loading in with BLOAD
and saving with BGET. It works! Even my 1.27 Mbyte file copies without a
problem. Off the top of my head this is the code pared down to its minimum:

tr%=MALLOC(1500000)
IF EXIST(a$)
  open "I",#1,a$
  open "o",#2,b$
  size%=LOF(#1)
  BLOAD a$,tr%
  BPUT #2,tr%,size%
  close #2
  close #1
ENDIF
~MFREE

An expanded version of that is correctly installing 384 txt, bitmap, gfw,
exe (gfa) and Word (doc) files totaling around 25 Mbytes - at least on my PC
:>)

I'll check out the samples you sent, Tom, as I'm far from happy about the
above even though it appears to work well. I like to understand why
something works and I don't understand this clearly.

It appears that BGET and BSAVE have size limitations but BLOAD and BPUT do
not (or have less limitations). Anyone come across this before?

Mac Howard

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Mac
On Dale's site... There is a copy of Roland's version of the one I sent
you written by John.  John'e sometimes fails if compiled, Roland's does
OK.

I run in the interpretor most of the time while working out kinks, so I
run John's because is shorter.  I can remember that *something* isn't
quite right in making the calls to the *.dll, but not what it was.  I
did finally get John's to run compiled OK.  It hits the same error you
keep hitting.  Something to do, I think, w/ the declaration.

I've moved 9M at one time w/ John's - it doesn't really care about the size
& since Roland's is just a tad different, I suspect it'll do it too.  I'm
on a P-100, so speed is pretty good but of course slower than on anything 
like a P-150 or faster.  By the time I release the mouse, it's done it's job!

<G>
TomR.



At 09:45 PM 26/01/00 +0800, you wrote:
>List Member "Malcolm Jack Howard" <machoward@bigpond.com> wrote:
>I have found a kludge. I tried BLOAD and BSAVE instead of BGET and BPUT in
>code based on Sjaak's and Russell's examples. It was better - it didn't
>produce an error message but the saved file was shorter than it should have
>been with the 157 kbyte file.
>
>I don't now know why, maybe desperation, but I tried loading in with BLOAD
>and saving with BGET. It works! Even my 1.27 Mbyte file copies without a
>problem. Off the top of my head this is the code pared down to its minimum:
>
>tr%=MALLOC(1500000)
>IF EXIST(a$)
>  open "I",#1,a$
>  open "o",#2,b$
>  size%=LOF(#1)
>  BLOAD a$,tr%
>  BPUT #2,tr%,size%
>  close #2
>  close #1
>ENDIF
>~MFREE
>
>An expanded version of that is correctly installing 384 txt, bitmap, gfw,
>exe (gfa) and Word (doc) files totaling around 25 Mbytes - at least on my PC
>:>)
>
>I'll check out the samples you sent, Tom, as I'm far from happy about the
>above even though it appears to work well. I like to understand why
>something works and I don't understand this clearly.
>
>It appears that BGET and BSAVE have size limitations but BLOAD and BPUT do
>not (or have less limitations). Anyone come across this before?
>
>Mac Howard
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Don't miss JUKEBOX by David Wicker.  Select the midi file you want to play
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List Member "John Findlay" <John.Findlay@Byte-it.net> wrote:
Tom,

> It hits the same error you
> keep hitting.  Something to do, I think, w/ the declaration.

hkernel& = LoadLibrary("kernel")

instead of;

hkernel& = LoadLibrary("kernel.dll")
================================================

Although the code below seems to work Interpreted or Compiled;

John

// Start of code.
hkernel& = LoadLibrary("kernel.dll")  // Needed for _hread/_hwrite etc

OPENW #1, 2, 0, _X - 20, _Y - 20, ~15

lpMem% = MALLOC(178000)

' Fill memory with a-z
i& = 97
FOR l% = 0 TO 177999
  IF i& > 122 THEN i& = 97
  BYTE{_Huge(lpMem%, l%)} = i&
  i& ++
NEXT l%

' Write out Huge Block
OPEN "O", #1, "d:\myfile.txt"
PRINT "The Bytes Sent", @HugeWrite(_FILE(1), lpMem%, 178000)
CLOSE #1

' Read in Huge Block
OPEN "I", #1, "d:\myfile.txt"
PRINT "Read File Size", LOF(#1)
PRINT "Bytes Read Back", @HugeRead(_FILE(1), lpMem%, LOF(#1))
CLOSE #1

~MFREE(lpMem%)
IF hkernel&  THEN ~FreeLibrary(hkernel&)
KEYGET l%
CLOSEW #1
EDIT

FUNCTION  HugeRead(hFile&, lpBuffer%, lBytes%)
  RETURN P:(GetProcAddress(hkernel&, "_hread"))(hFile&, L:lpBuffer%,
L:lBytes%)
ENDFUNC
FUNCTION  HugeWrite(hFile&, lpBuffer%, lBytes%)
  RETURN P:(GetProcAddress(hkernel&, "_hwrite"))(hFile&, L:lpBuffer%,
L:lBytes%)
ENDFUNC
// End of Code


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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
MultiText VBX 2.0
=================
MultiText (mtext.vbx) is a Visual Basic VBX for displaying text and
pictures with multiple fonts, font styles and colors. Other features
include support for hypertext, tables, and RTF conversion.

Full instructions are included in the mtext.hlp file.

Any queries should be sent to :

GlobalCom@pobox.com

or to

Global Components
41 Milton Street
Northampton
NN2 7JG
United Kingdom

http://ds.dial.pipex.com/globalcom/

This software is shareware and may be copied and distributed
freely so long as all accompanying files are kept intact.

---FILE_ID.DIZ-------------------------------
(v2.0) MultiText VBX (mtext.vbx).
Visual Basic VBX for displaying text,
pictures, hypertext, multiple fonts, 
font styles, colors and tables. Text
may be copied to clipboard. Text can
be loaded direct from disk and 
converted from RTF. Demo included.
Shareware USD25 or GBP15.
Global Components: GlobalCom@pobox.com
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Have two files:
80_86 opcodes, in a helpfile
pentium opcodes, in an *.exe (listbox, no copy out)

76.2K *.zip if anybody wants.
<G>
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
At 08:10 PM 26/01/00 -0000, you wrote:
>List Member "John Findlay" <John.Findlay@Byte-it.net> wrote:
>Tom,
>
>> It hits the same error you
>> keep hitting.  Something to do, I think, w/ the declaration.
>
>hkernel& = LoadLibrary("kernel")
>
>instead of;
>
>hkernel& = LoadLibrary("kernel.dll")
>================================================

Big John
Yer right - 'at's the change.  Sorry, but on both my PBs, this
won't run compiled without making that simple change.  Absolutely
NO idea why.  One is a 486SX25, the other is a P-100.  Different
BIOSs, but both are doctored by PB.  I can only surmise that the
BIOS is the source of trouble for a lot of things.

I fought long & hard on VESA overlays until they finally gave up &
admitted they didn't have a single PB running their tests but mine.
Don't recall the name now, but is "something"Doctor.  DisplayDoctor.

I have other problems w/ other GFA-W(16) routines & appls that use
*.dlls - gotta put a full path in that slot to pick one up in it's
own dir.
<G>
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List Member "Sjaak Aarnoutse" <aarnouts@zeelandnet.nl> wrote:
> Both will copy a 55k file but cannot copy the 157k file I have and certainly
> not the 1.27 Mbyte file I have. I

Hi Malcolm,

Very strange, I have been using this code for more than 5 years 
without any problems, so i assume the file size has nothing to do 
with it anyway, I just copied a 32 Mb file without problems. 
(interpreted nor compiled)

I can think however of a few possible causes:
 
The error suggests the supplied pointer is invalid. You are using the 
pointer to a Mallocced memory-block? Avoid using pointers to 
strings, since that can mess things up, when GFA does its 
"garbage collection"  

Could it be, BGET is trying to read to big a chunk of data to fit in 
the transfer area?

Is the filesize correct? Does LOF() return the correct value? Do you 
run CHKDSK/SCANDISK once in a while?
 
Increasing the block size will have no effect on this problem, but 
will only adversely affect the smoothness of Windows multi-
tasking. Using your program should not cause a Cd-Writer to fail 
with underrun-errors. In testing I found increasing block-size over 
8Kb does hardly render a speed-improvement. 

Please send me your code for evaluation, I wil try to find the little 
creature that's bugging you.









met vriendelijke groet,

Sjaak Aarnoutse

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List Member "John Findlay" <John.Findlay@Byte-it.net> wrote:
Tom,

> Yer right - 'at's the change.  Sorry, but on both my PBs, this
> won't run compiled without making that simple change.  Absolutely
> NO idea why.  One is a 486SX25, the other is a P-100.  Different
> BIOSs, but both are doctored by PB.  I can only surmise that the
> BIOS is the source of trouble for a lot of things.

I don't know why there are differences.

> I have other problems w/ other GFA-W(16) routines & appls that use
> *.dlls - gotta put a full path in that slot to pick one up in it's
> own dir.

If you use LoadLibrary; From MS

====================================
If a path is not specified and the filename extension is omitted, the
default library extension .DLL is appended. However, the filename string can
include a trailing point character (.) to indicate that the module name has
no extension. When no path is specified, the function searches for the file
in the following sequence:

1. The directory from which the application loaded.
 2. The current directory.
 3. Windows 95: The Windows system directory. Use the GetSystemDirectory
function to get the path of this directory.

Windows NT: The 32-bit Windows system directory. Use the GetSystemDirectory
function to get the path of this directory. The name of this directory is
SYSTEM32.

4. Windows NT only: The 16-bit Windows system directory. There is no Win32
function that obtains the path of this directory, but it is searched. The
name of this directory is SYSTEM.
 5. The Windows directory. Use the GetWindowsDirectory function to get the
path of this directory.
 6. The directories that are listed in the PATH environment variable.
================================

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List Member "Lou Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
Hi:

I came across the following code in my files & thought it might answer all
my questions about READ/WRITE SECTORS w/FAT32 but I can't even get it to
work. btw, I tried changing the $13 code to $21, sub $7305 code & still
nada.

Also, I would like to be able to write a LABEL to a disk. Any help would be
appreciated.

Here's the code:

From: Roland Walter <alibaba@zedat.fu-berlin.de>
To: gfabasic@aachen.linux.de <gfabasic@aachen.linux.de>
Subject: [GFA] Get volume label by Interrupt
Date: October 6, 1998 1257 Bev

* List: gfabasic@aachen.linux.de

Here is an other way to get the volume label.
I would say FGETDTA is better - but may there is
anybody who don't hates interrupts  :-))))))


'Get the volume label by using BIOS interrupt function ReadSector
INTR($13,_AH=$02)
'  Roland Walter, Schnhauser Allee 64, D-10437 Berlin; October 1998
'More information see Ralf Brown's Interrupt list (you will find it in
Internet)
'
Drive|=1  '1=A:, 2=B: (use for floppy only)
~INTR($21,_AH=$30,_AL=$0) 'get DOS version
IF _AL>6 THEN W95!=TRUE 'MS-DOS 7.0 (Windows 95) - we have to lock the
volume before direct read/write
IF W95!=TRUE
  ~INTR($21,_AX=$440D,_CX=$084A,_BL=Drive|,_BH=0,_DX =%000) 'level 0 volume
lock to get only rights
  ~INTR($21,_AX=$440D,_CX=$084A,_BL=Drive|,_BH=0,_DX =%100) 'second level 0
volume lock for formatting
ENDIF
Buffer$=STRING$(512,0) 'receives the sector 0 (the boot sector)
~INTR($13,_AH=$02,_DL=Drive|,_AL=1,_CH=0,_CL=0,_DH=0,_BX=LOWORD(V:Buffer$),_
ES=HIWORD(V:Buffer$))
IF W95!=TRUE
  ~INTR($21,_AX = $440D,_CX=$086A,_BL=Drive|) 'decrease volume lock level
  ~INTR($21,_AX = $440D,_CX=$086A,_BL=Drive|) 'unlock volume
ENDIF
'The volume label begins at byte 43 of the boot sector and has a size of 11
characters (rest filled with spaces)
'More information  list wich You can find in Internet (also as Windows help
file)
Label$=PEEK$(V:Buffer$+43,11)
~MessageBox(0,"-"+Label$+"-","Label of drive "+CHR$(Drive|+64)+":",0)

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
''''  testbed.lst
d&  =3D _DRIVE
CHDIR "."
? " Start: ";d&;"  ";CHR$(d&)
home$ =3D DIR$(0) + "\"  //  home dir
'CHDIR CHR$(d&) + ":\"
CHDRIVE "a"
d1&  =3D _DRIVE
? " Go to: ";d1&;"  ";CHR$(d1&)
TITLEW #1, "TomR.'s Testbed Window"
OPENW #1, 0,0,300,200,48
PRINT
'
'
TYPE dta:
- CHAR*21  fs_donttouch$
- BYTE     fs_attr
- CARD     fs_time
- CARD     fs_date
- LONG     fs_size
- CHAR*14  fs_name$
ENDTYPE
dta% =3D FGETDTA()
e% =3D FSFIRST("*.*",8)       /* Volume
PRINT {dta%}.fs_name$       /* Volume name

mar% =3D INSTR({dta%}.fs_name$,".")
PRINT " Disk Volume Label (8+3 format): ";mar%
par1$ =3D LEFT$({dta%}.fs_name$,mar% - 1)
par2$ =3D RIGHT$({dta%}.fs_name$,LEN({dta%}.fs_name$) - mar%)
par$ =3D par1$ + par2$
PRINT " Disk Volume Label (ll char format): ";par$

PRINT  " Volume Date: ";STR$({dta%}.fs_date) /* Date
PRINT  " Volume Time: ";STR$({dta%}.fs_time)  /* Time
'
CHDRIVE d&
CHDIR home$
? " End up: ";d&;"  ";CHR$(d&)
?
PRINT "                     <any key> closes me."
KEYGET k%
CLOSEW #1
END




At 03:53 AM 27/01/00 -0500, you wrote:
>List Member "Lou Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
>Hi:
>
>I came across the following code in my files & thought it might answer all
>my questions about READ/WRITE SECTORS w/FAT32 but I can't even get it to
>work. btw, I tried changing the $13 code to $21, sub $7305 code & still
>nada.
>
>Also, I would like to be able to write a LABEL to a disk. Any help would be
>appreciated.
>
>Here's the code:
>
>From: Roland Walter <alibaba@zedat.fu-berlin.de>
>To: gfabasic@aachen.linux.de <gfabasic@aachen.linux.de>
>Subject: [GFA] Get volume label by Interrupt
>Date: October 6, 1998 1257 Bev
>
>* List: gfabasic@aachen.linux.de
>
>Here is an other way to get the volume label.
>I would say FGETDTA is better - but may there is
>anybody who don't hates interrupts  :-))))))
>
>
>'Get the volume label by using BIOS interrupt function ReadSector
>INTR($13,_AH=3D$02)
>' =A9 Roland Walter, Sch=F6nhauser Allee 64, D-10437 Berlin; October 1998
>'More information see Ralf Brown's Interrupt list (you will find it in
>Internet)
>'
>Drive|=3D1  '1=3DA:, 2=3DB: (use for floppy only)
>~INTR($21,_AH=3D$30,_AL=3D$0) 'get DOS version
>IF _AL>6 THEN W95!=3DTRUE 'MS-DOS 7.0 (Windows 95) - we have to lock the
>volume before direct read/write
>IF W95!=3DTRUE
>  ~INTR($21,_AX=3D$440D,_CX=3D$084A,_BL=3DDrive|,_BH=3D0,_DX =3D%000)=
 'level 0 volume
>lock to get only rights
>  ~INTR($21,_AX=3D$440D,_CX=3D$084A,_BL=3DDrive|,_BH=3D0,_DX =3D%100)=
 'second level 0
>volume lock for formatting
>ENDIF
>Buffer$=3DSTRING$(512,0) 'receives the sector 0 (the boot sector)
>~INTR($13,_AH=3D$02,_DL=3DDrive|,_AL=3D1,_CH=3D0,_CL=3D0,_DH=3D0,_BX=3DLOWO=
RD(V:Buffer$),_
>ES=3DHIWORD(V:Buffer$))
>IF W95!=3DTRUE
>  ~INTR($21,_AX =3D $440D,_CX=3D$086A,_BL=3DDrive|) 'decrease volume lock=
 level
>  ~INTR($21,_AX =3D $440D,_CX=3D$086A,_BL=3DDrive|) 'unlock volume
>ENDIF
>'The volume label begins at byte 43 of the boot sector and has a size of 11
>characters (rest filled with spaces)
>'More information  list wich You can find in Internet (also as Windows help
>file)
>Label$=3DPEEK$(V:Buffer$+43,11)
>~MessageBox(0,"-"+Label$+"-","Label of drive "+CHR$(Drive|+64)+":",0)
>
>                                -->Bev<--
>
>
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
I hope I'm not out of line here by putting in these
suggestions.

Yes it's me the Kaleidoscope guy.  :)

I'm running GFA BASIC 4.38 for Windows
It has a 1,000 line limit and any information on how
to get past that limit would be greatly appreciated.

(Got awful quiet out there)..  :)

Okay, sticking to business:

1) How do you read the game joystick easily so I can
   use it in GFABasic

2) I'm working on a vector library but I'd like to do
   something like WindowCoord(100,100) which would
   treat the whole screen like it was 100 pixels
   across by 100 down.  But it can be any size, the
   aspect ratio of plotting all ellipses, blocks,
   lines, etc. would follow these rules.  QBasic
   has it, called: WINDOW SCREEN(0,0)-(100,100)
   Drawing a line LINE 0,0,15,15 would make a
   line stretched more left and right if we used a
   640x480 screen.  I'm doing this so any window I
   create will fit perfectly no matter how you scale
   or size the window.

3) I'm working on a nice Jukebox, you can download
   anything I've made at: http://www.gfawhelp.gfa.net/
   Next I'd like to have in it a VOLUME reader, that
   is, you can set it to a nice level and even if
   the piece gets really quiet or suddenly thooms
   LOUDLY! it won't and stays at a constant listening
   good on the ears level.

4) Is it just me or is debugging in GFABasic a real
   pain and its not too well designed ?  Suppose I
   want to monitor 30 variables at the same time,
   that itty bitty 6 choices isn't going to cut it.

That's all from here !

Sincerely,
David W.
http://www.geocities.com/dw817
^ Homepage is being reconstructed !

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List Member "Lou Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
Hi Dave:

> I'm running GFA BASIC 4.38 for Windows
> It has a 1,000 line limit and any information on how
I believe you have the demo version; sorry, you'll have to shell out for the
full fledge version.

>  How do you read the game joystick easily so I can
>    use it in GFABasic
I checked all my routines & all I could come up with were these in the
attachment; they were actually written for the DOS version but they should
be convertible to windows (interrupts are interrupts, aren't they?)  <g>

                                -->Bev<--


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From: "David Wicker" <dw817@yahoo.com>
To: <gfabasic@gfa.net>
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2000 6:30 PM
Subject: [gfabasic] New Subjects


> List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I hope I'm not out of line here by putting in these
> suggestions.
>
> Yes it's me the Kaleidoscope guy.  :)
>
> I'm running GFA BASIC 4.38 for Windows
> It has a 1,000 line limit and any information on how
> to get past that limit would be greatly appreciated.
>
> (Got awful quiet out there)..  :)
>
> Okay, sticking to business:
>
> 1) How do you read the game joystick easily so I can
>    use it in GFABasic
>
> 2) I'm working on a vector library but I'd like to do
>    something like WindowCoord(100,100) which would
>    treat the whole screen like it was 100 pixels
>    across by 100 down.  But it can be any size, the
>    aspect ratio of plotting all ellipses, blocks,
>    lines, etc. would follow these rules.  QBasic
>    has it, called: WINDOW SCREEN(0,0)-(100,100)
>    Drawing a line LINE 0,0,15,15 would make a
>    line stretched more left and right if we used a
>    640x480 screen.  I'm doing this so any window I
>    create will fit perfectly no matter how you scale
>    or size the window.
>
> 3) I'm working on a nice Jukebox, you can download
>    anything I've made at: http://www.gfawhelp.gfa.net/
>    Next I'd like to have in it a VOLUME reader, that
>    is, you can set it to a nice level and even if
>    the piece gets really quiet or suddenly thooms
>    LOUDLY! it won't and stays at a constant listening
>    good on the ears level.
>
> 4) Is it just me or is debugging in GFABasic a real
>    pain and its not too well designed ?  Suppose I
>    want to monitor 30 variables at the same time,
>    that itty bitty 6 choices isn't going to cut it.
>
> That's all from here !
>
> Sincerely,
> David W.
> http://www.geocities.com/dw817
> ^ Homepage is being reconstructed !
>
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> how
> I believe you have the demo version; sorry, you'll
> have to shell out for the
> full fledge version.

Speaking with Russell, he said in American Currency
registration is like over $500 ??

I think I paid that much for my car at one point.  :/


> 
> >  How do you read the game joystick easily so I can
> >    use it in GFABasic
> I checked all my routines & all I could come up with
> were these in the
> attachment; they were actually written for the DOS
> version but they should
> be convertible to windows (interrupts are
> interrupts, aren't they?)  <g>
> 
>                                 -->Bev<--

Wow ! Great job, Bev !  This joystick routine is
perhaps one of the few bits of rare code that's
small enough I can understand it !

(I tested it too, works great !)

Thanks !

I don't know if I can (or should send binary files
in reply here), but my newest project is Jukebox
if you wanna look it over.  I've got 0.31 here of
it and am searching for the perfect CoinDrop.WAV
file now.  :)

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Jukebox by Dave Wicker is available for download on the GFAWHELP web sit.
Just select GFA16 from the home page. You will love it!

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> List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > how
> > I believe you have the demo version; sorry, you'll
> > have to shell out for the
> > full fledge version.
>
> Speaking with Russell, he said in American Currency
> registration is like over $500 ??
>
> I think I paid that much for my car at one point.  :/
>
>
> >
> > >  How do you read the game joystick easily so I can
> > >    use it in GFABasic
> > I checked all my routines & all I could come up with
> > were these in the
> > attachment; they were actually written for the DOS
> > version but they should
> > be convertible to windows (interrupts are
> > interrupts, aren't they?)  <g>
> >
> >                                 -->Bev<--
>
> Wow ! Great job, Bev !  This joystick routine is
> perhaps one of the few bits of rare code that's
> small enough I can understand it !
>
> (I tested it too, works great !)
>
> Thanks !
>
> I don't know if I can (or should send binary files
> in reply here), but my newest project is Jukebox
> if you wanna look it over.  I've got 0.31 here of
> it and am searching for the perfect CoinDrop.WAV
> file now.  :)
>
> Sincerely,
> David W.
>
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
UPDATES:
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Don't miss them!
Dale

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Subject: Re: [gfabasic] Back to basics again <g>
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List Member "Roland Walter" <roland@rowalt.de> wrote:

> List Member "Malcolm Jack Howard" <machoward@bigpond.com> wrote:
> I need to produce an installation program. I know little of Windows API and
> can see no way of copying a file from one location to another with the GFA
> instruction set. I have come across CopyFile (Windows API) but can make no
> sense of the syntax.

There is no "standard" copy function in API nor in GFA. The only one
is in LZEXPAND.DLL and does also support LZ compression. A file is to
copy by open the input file for input and to create another file at
anotherr position (directory/drive). After You must read the bytes
from input file into memory and then to output them to the target
file. To do it byte-by-byte is very simple but slow. Much better
(nearly optimal) is the listing below in the mail.

> Is there a help file available for Windows API?

Look for WIN31WH.HLP in Internet. This is the complete
Windows 3.x API help file.

> Is there a GFW program that will install program files or can be modified to
> do so ?

There is one listing showing how to create groups.
By the way: A very efficient way is to use the UNZIP.DLL example
I sent to the world longer ago. This includes best compression AND
best copying...

Bye, Roland
-----------------------------------------------------

FUNCTION CopyFile(InFile$,OutFile$)
  'This function copies a file using API functions.
  'The function works very fast, has no size restrictions
  'and is able to handle long file names also.
  'No global variables are used (use listing by simple paste...)
  '(C)Roland Walter, roland@rowalt.de, www.rowalt.de/gfabasic/
  '
  LOCAL hInFile&,hOutFile&,hCopyPuffer&,AdrCopyPuffer%
  '
  hInFile&=_lopen(InFile$,OF_READ)
  IF hInFile& = -1 THEN RETURN -1  'File does not exist
  '
  hOutFile&=_lcreat(OutFile$,0) 'Create new file/crunch existing
  '
  hCopyPuffer&=GlobalAlloc(GMEM_FIXED,$FFFE)
  AdrCopyPuffer%=GlobalLock(hCopyPuffer&)
  '
  DO
    PEEKEVENT 'for better Multitasking (do not use GETEVENT!)
    InBytes%=_lread(hInFile&,AdrCopyPuffer%,$FFFE)
    OutBytes%=_lwrite(hOutFile&,AdrCopyPuffer%,InBytes%)
  LOOP UNTIL InBytes%<$FFFE OR OutBytes% = -1
  '
  ~GlobalUnlock(hCopyPuffer&)
  ~GlobalFree(hCopyPuffer&)
  ~_lclose(hInFile&)
  ~_lclose(hOutFile&)
  '
  IF OutBytes% = -1
    RETURN -2  'Copy error (for example disk full)
  ELSE
    RETURN 0   'Report success
  ENDIF
ENDFUNC

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
At 02:47 AM 29/01/00 -0000, you wrote:
>List Member "Roland Walter" <roland@rowalt.de> wrote:
>
>> List Member "Malcolm Jack Howard" <machoward@bigpond.com> wrote:
>> I need to produce an installation program. I know little of Windows API and
>> can see no way of copying a file from one location to another with the GFA
>> instruction set. I have come across CopyFile (Windows API) but can make no
>> sense of the syntax.
>
>There is no "standard" copy function in API nor in GFA. The only one
>is in LZEXPAND.DLL and does also support LZ compression. A file is to
>copy by open the input file for input and to create another file at
>anotherr position (directory/drive). After You must read the bytes
>from input file into memory and then to output them to the target
>file. To do it byte-by-byte is very simple but slow. Much better
>(nearly optimal) is the listing below in the mail.
>
>> Is there a help file available for Windows API?
>
>Look for WIN31WH.HLP in Internet. This is the complete
>Windows 3.x API help file.
> ----------------------------------------------------
http://TiGeR1.webjump.com/winh/WINH.ZIP       65683
http://TiGeR1.webjump.com/winh/WINH02.ZIP     45327
http://TiGeR1.webjump.com/winh/WINH03.ZIP     59172
http://TiGeR1.webjump.com/winh/WINH04.ZIP     36131
http://TiGeR1.webjump.com/winh/WINH05.ZIP     49703
http://TiGeR1.webjump.com/winh/WINH06.ZIP     57885
http://TiGeR1.webjump.com/winh/WINH07.ZIP      9240
http://TiGeR1.webjump.com/winh/WINH08.ZIP     32062
http://TiGeR1.webjump.com/winh/WINH09.ZIP     58258
http://TiGeR1.webjump.com/winh/WINH10.ZIP     84952

You may also want:
http://TiGeR1.webjump.com/sdk/allmmiav.ZIP   350573
http://TiGeR1.webjump.com/sdk/mci_hlp.ZIP   2698424
http://TiGeR1.webjump.com/sdk/win31wh.ZIP   2590553

2 are mci-related, last is win32sdk helpfile, a MUST!
> -----------------------------------------------------
>> Is there a GFW program that will install program files or can be modified to
>> do so ?
>
>There is one listing showing how to create groups.
>By the way: A very efficient way is to use the UNZIP.DLL example
>I sent to the world longer ago. This includes best compression AND
>best copying...
>
>Bye, Roland
>-----------------------------------------------------
>
>FUNCTION CopyFile(InFile$,OutFile$)
>  'This function copies a file using API functions.
>  'The function works very fast, has no size restrictions
>  'and is able to handle long file names also.
>  'No global variables are used (use listing by simple paste...)
>  '(C)Roland Walter, roland@rowalt.de, www.rowalt.de/gfabasic/
>  '
>  LOCAL hInFile&,hOutFile&,hCopyPuffer&,AdrCopyPuffer%
>  '
>  hInFile&=_lopen(InFile$,OF_READ)
>  IF hInFile& = -1 THEN RETURN -1  'File does not exist
>  '
>  hOutFile&=_lcreat(OutFile$,0) 'Create new file/crunch existing
>  '
>  hCopyPuffer&=GlobalAlloc(GMEM_FIXED,$FFFE)
>  AdrCopyPuffer%=GlobalLock(hCopyPuffer&)
>  '
>  DO
>    PEEKEVENT 'for better Multitasking (do not use GETEVENT!)
>    InBytes%=_lread(hInFile&,AdrCopyPuffer%,$FFFE)
>    OutBytes%=_lwrite(hOutFile&,AdrCopyPuffer%,InBytes%)
>  LOOP UNTIL InBytes%<$FFFE OR OutBytes% = -1
>  '
>  ~GlobalUnlock(hCopyPuffer&)
>  ~GlobalFree(hCopyPuffer&)
>  ~_lclose(hInFile&)
>  ~_lclose(hOutFile&)
>  '
>  IF OutBytes% = -1
>    RETURN -2  'Copy error (for example disk full)
>  ELSE
>    RETURN 0   'Report success
>  ENDIF
>ENDFUNC
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:


--- Roland Walter <roland@rowalt.de> wrote:
> List Member "Roland Walter" <roland@rowalt.de>
> wrote:
> 
> > List Member "Malcolm Jack Howard"
> <machoward@bigpond.com> wrote:
> > I need to produce an installation program. I know
> little of Windows API and
> > can see no way of copying a file from one location
> to another with the GFA
> > instruction set. I have come across CopyFile
> (Windows API) but can make no
> > sense of the syntax.
> 
> There is no "standard" copy function in API nor in
> GFA. The only one
> is in LZEXPAND.DLL and does also support LZ
> compression. A file is to
> copy by open the input file for input and to create
> another file at
> anotherr position (directory/drive). After You must
> read the bytes
> from input file into memory and then to output them
> to the target
> file. To do it byte-by-byte is very simple but slow.
> Much better
> (nearly optimal) is the listing below in the mail.
> 
> > Is there a help file available for Windows API?
> 
> Look for WIN31WH.HLP in Internet. This is the
> complete
> Windows 3.x API help file.
> 
> > Is there a GFW program that will install program
> files or can be modified to
> > do so ?
> 
> There is one listing showing how to create groups.
> By the way: A very efficient way is to use the
> UNZIP.DLL example
> I sent to the world longer ago. This includes best
> compression AND
> best copying...
> 
> Bye, Roland
>
-----------------------------------------------------
> 
> FUNCTION CopyFile(InFile$,OutFile$)
>   'This function copies a file using API functions.
>   'The function works very fast, has no size
> restrictions
>   'and is able to handle long file names also.
>   'No global variables are used (use listing by
> simple paste...)
>   '(C)Roland Walter, roland@rowalt.de,
> www.rowalt.de/gfabasic/
>   '
>   LOCAL
> hInFile&,hOutFile&,hCopyPuffer&,AdrCopyPuffer%
>   '
>   hInFile&=_lopen(InFile$,OF_READ)
>   IF hInFile& = -1 THEN RETURN -1  'File does not
> exist
>   '
>   hOutFile&=_lcreat(OutFile$,0) 'Create new
> file/crunch existing
>   '
>   hCopyPuffer&=GlobalAlloc(GMEM_FIXED,$FFFE)
>   AdrCopyPuffer%=GlobalLock(hCopyPuffer&)
>   '
>   DO
>     PEEKEVENT 'for better Multitasking (do not use
> GETEVENT!)
>     InBytes%=_lread(hInFile&,AdrCopyPuffer%,$FFFE)
>    
> OutBytes%=_lwrite(hOutFile&,AdrCopyPuffer%,InBytes%)
>   LOOP UNTIL InBytes%<$FFFE OR OutBytes% = -1
>   '
>   ~GlobalUnlock(hCopyPuffer&)
>   ~GlobalFree(hCopyPuffer&)
>   ~_lclose(hInFile&)
>   ~_lclose(hOutFile&)
>   '
>   IF OutBytes% = -1
>     RETURN -2  'Copy error (for example disk full)
>   ELSE
>     RETURN 0   'Report success
>   ENDIF
> ENDFUNC
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Hi Roland:

Blurrch, Acch!  Glukk !
Excuse me, I was trying to swallow all that code
up there.  :)

How about this ?

OPENW #1
PRINT "Get Ready"
SHELL "copy /y gfafont.ins gfafont.in3"
PRINT "We're done!"
KEYGET A
CLOSEW #1

The cursor hides sometimes after a SHELL, the
[F4] and [ENTER] brings it back.

And it doesn't even show a DOS screen at all, it
does it all in its head.  :)

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
DO
  SLEEP
  SWITCH MENU(1)
  CASE 7 TO 16
    ScrollBar()
  CASE 21
    PaintWindow()
  ENDSWITCH
UNTIL MENU(1) = 4

There is a means of checking for MOUSEK & 1 to cause a smooth continuous
scroll as long as the left button is down.  I've seen it, but can't find
it now.  The above scrolls the distance set for each mouse click just fine
but I need a continuous scroll as long as the mouse button is down.

Please?
<G>
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List Member "John Findlay" <John.Findlay@Byte-it.net> wrote:
Tom,

> There is a means of checking for MOUSEK & 1 to cause a smooth continuous
> scroll as long as the left button is down.  I've seen it, but can't find
> it now.  The above scrolls the distance set for each mouse click just fine
> but I need a continuous scroll as long as the mouse button is down.

I believe the only way to achieve a continuous scroll with a GFA window is
to use a callback!

If you still have my code magplot.gfw everything you need is in there.

  CB hWnd&, 0 TO -1, MessageHandler()

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
John
I know it isn't really simple <G>.  I'll look for your routine - *should*
have it somewhere.  Right now I have 3500 things going on & am capable of
keeping track of maybe 1 or 1.5!  Thanks - I'll start looking.

It's 4:46 in the morning here.  We had about 6 inches of snow over the last
two days & the temp is holding at about 26=B0F (+/- 2=B0C below zero).  The=
 snow
has melted off the dark streets, but is still about 5 inches deep elsewhere.
Good snowman/snowball snow <G>.
<G>
TomR.


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>List Member "John Findlay" <John.Findlay@Byte-it.net> wrote:
>Tom,
>
>> There is a means of checking for MOUSEK & 1 to cause a smooth continuous
>> scroll as long as the left button is down.  I've seen it, but can't find
>> it now.  The above scrolls the distance set for each mouse click just=
 fine
>> but I need a continuous scroll as long as the mouse button is down.
>
>I believe the only way to achieve a continuous scroll with a GFA window is
>to use a callback!
>
>If you still have my code magplot.gfw everything you need is in there.
>
>  CB hWnd&, 0 TO -1, MessageHandler()
>
>John
>
>
>
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Subject: [gfabasic] ECJ_Decode (2.x)
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Express Compression JPEG Application Program Interface (ECJAPI)

(c) 1993,1994 Expressed Compression Laboratories
*****************************************************
sel$ = "*.jpg"
FILESELECT #"Choose .jpg",sel$,"",bmp$
IF bmp$ = "" THEN END
IF hBmp& THEN FREEBMP hBmp&
hBmp& = ECJ_Decode(V:bmp$, ECJ_24_BITS, 0, 0)

BOMBS!  "Number of dimensions wrong"!  WHAT is wrong?

ECJ_Decode (2.x)
------------------------------------------------------
#include "ecjapi.h"

HANDLE ECJ_Decode( lpstrfilename, wParam, lParam, lpfnECJ_CallBack )

LPSTR	lpstrFileName;		/* name of file to decode */
WORD	wParam;			/* attributes */
LONG	lParam;			/* optional parameters */
ECJCB	lpfnECJ_CallBack;	/* call back routine */

ECJ_Decode decodes the specified JPEG file and returns a device independent
bitmap (DIB).

Parameter	 Description
----------------------------------------------------
lpstrFileName	 Points to a null-terminated string that names the JPEG
		 file to be decoded.

wParam		 Specifies how decoding shall proceed. This parameter
		 can be a combination of the following values.

		 Value		Meaning
		 -------------- -------------------------------------------
		 ECJ_GRAY_ONLY	Create a gray only DIB.
		 ECJ_24_BITS	Create a 24 bit DIB.
		 ECJ_2_PASS	Use two-pass 24 to 8 bit colour quantisation.
		 ECJ_DITHER	Use FS dithering in 2-pass color quantisation.
		 ECJ_HALF_SIZE	Shrink the dimensions of the picture by half.
		 ECJ_4_SIZE	Shrink the dimensions of the picture by 1/4th.
		 ECJ_8_SIZE	Shrink the dimensions of the picture by 1/8th.
		 ECJ_AUTO_SIZE	Automatically shrink the dimensions of the
				picture when appropriate.

		 ECJ_DITHER can only be used in conjunction with ECJ_2_PASS.
		 ECJ_GRAY_ONLY, ECJ_24_BITS and ECJ_2_PASS are mutually
		 exclusive. ECJ_HALF_SIZE, ECJ_4_SIZE and ECJ_8_SIZE are
		 mutually exclusive, while ECJ_AUTO_SIZE takes precedence over
		 all of them.
		 By default (with wParam = 0) ECJ_Decode creates an 8 bit DIB,
		 using single pass colour quantisation with ordered dithering
		 when appropriate.

lParam		 Bits 24 to 30 can be used as an optional 7 bit label, which
		 is passed back to the client during callback, for the purpose
		 of uniquely identifying each call to ECJ_Decode when multiple
		 calls are made in parallel.

lpfnECJ_CallBack Specifies the procedure-instance address of the callback
		 procedure. ECJ_Decode sends messages and periodically passes
		 control back to the client via the ECJ callback procedure.
		 Setting this parameter to NULL disables the callback
		 mechanism.
		 For more information see the description of the ECJ_CallBack
		 function.

Returns
=======
The return value is the handle to the DIB if the function is successful.
Otherwise, it is NULL.

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List Member MISER@LCIA.COM (Micromiser, Inc) wrote:
>*****************************************************
>sel$ = "*.jpg"
>FILESELECT #"Choose .jpg",sel$,"",bmp$
>IF bmp$ = "" THEN END
>IF hBmp& THEN FREEBMP hBmp&
>hBmp& = ECJ_Decode(V:bmp$, ECJ_24_BITS, 0, 0)
>
>BOMBS!  "Number of dimensions wrong"!  WHAT is wrong?
>
I haven't had my coffee yet, but it looks like someone forgot to begin
a DLL call with the "^" character. Do I pass the test?

-----
Steve Thornton

Some edited code from a working app. Probably won't work as edited:

PROCEDURE JPG(DUM$,DUM&,DUM2&,DUM3&,DUM4&,DUM|)
  LOCAL X&,Y&,W&,H&,A|,B|,C|,BITS%,CSIZE&,A&,F$
  'DUM|=4 full size. Global T& comes in as index in JPG filename arrays
  F$=DUM$,X&=DUM&,Y&=DUM2&,W&=DUM3&,H&=DUM4&
  IF HDIB&(T&)>0 AND DUM|<>4 THEN 'These arrays hold preloaded memory bitmaps
    HDIB&=HDIB&(T&),LPDIB%=LPDIB%(T&),JW&=JW&(T&),JH&=JH&(T&),BITS|=BITS|(T&)
  ELSE
    HALF_SIZE=1,AUTO_HALF=2,GRAY_ONLY=4,BIT24=32,SIZE4=64,SIZE8=128
    TWO_PASS|=8,DITHER|=16 '. 8 | 16 = 24
    S%=SIZE4 'nothing affects speed. size4 size8 shrink to 1/4, 1/8.
    IF cols|<4 THEN S%=HALF_SIZE 'Global cols| is # of thumbnails across screen
    IF DUM|=4 THEN S%=BIT24
    DUM$=DUM$+CHR$(0),LPDIB%=0
    HDIB&=^ECJ_Decode(V:DUM$,S%,0,0) 'WAS 24. 32=BIT24  Sharper: 24=TWO
PASS+DITHER (mutually excl.)
    IF HDIB&>0 THEN
      LPDIB%=GlobalLock(HDIB&) 'LPDIB% = Address of BITMAPINFOHEADER
    ENDIF
  ENDIF
  IF LPDIB%>0 THEN
    IF LPDIB%>0 THEN
      A|={LPDIB%} '1st 4 bytes are len of header lsb 1st. if len=40 then a|=40
      B|={LPDIB%+4}
      C|={LPDIB%+5}
      JW&=B|+C|*256 'Width of bitmap
      B|={LPDIB%+8}
      C|={LPDIB%+9}
      JH&=B|+C|*256 'Height of bitmap
      BITS|={LPDIB%+14} 'bits per pixel. must be 1, 4, 8 or 24
      IF DUM|<>4 THEN  'store memory bitmap for preload
HDIB&(T&)=HDIB&,LPDIB%(T&)=LPDIB%,JW&(T&)=JW&,JH&(T&)=JH&,BITS|(T&)=BITS|
      MEM%=INT(GlobalCompact(3000000)/1024) 'the number of K of contigious
memory like 16000 if 16mb
      IF BITS|=1 THEN CSIZE&=8 'Size of color table
      IF BITS|=4 THEN CSIZE&=64
      IF BITS|=8 THEN CSIZE&=1024
      'IF BPP|=24 THEN CSIZE&=??? what 24 bits counts up to * 4
      'LPCLR%=LPDIB%+A| 'Address of color table
      BITS%=LPDIB%+A|+CSIZE&
    ENDIF
    'Set W&, H& to width/height to draw (edited out)
    S%=SRCCOPY
    IF LPDIB%>0 THEN
      ~SetStretchBltMode(_DC(1),COLORONCOLOR) 'do this or garbage on most cards
ER&=StretchDIBits(_DC(1),X&,Y&,W&,H&,0,0,JW&,JH&,BITS%,LPDIB%,DIB_RGB_COLORS,S%)
    ENDIF
  ELSE
    STS|(T&)=1
  ENDIF
RETURN

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Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 18:52:11 -0500
From: bdd <BrentDeck@compuserve.com>
Subject: [gfabasic] Scrolling a bitmap with color
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List Member bdd <BrentDeck@compuserve.com> wrote:
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Dale,

Here's a simple example for Mark Feaver on how to do color in a bitmap, =

so that the colors match those on the screen.

Brent

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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Thanks Brent, I will pass it on.
Dale

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Dale,

Here's a simple example for Mark Feaver on how to do color in a bitmap,
so that the colors match those on the screen.

Brent




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List Member Peter_Harder@nf.maus.de (Peter Harder) wrote:
Hallo all,

sorry, but my English is very bad.

Heute bekam ich einen Hotline-Anruf von jemanden, der fragte, ob meine
Software nicht unter Win2000 l=E4uft, denn er hatte die Fehlermeldung -28
("Device voll") in der PROCEDURE 100 (unten angeh=E4ngt) schon gleich im
Setup erhalten, so das es gar nicht erst zu einer erfolgreichen
Installation kam. In der Tat hatte ich bisher noch keinen Win2000-
Betatester gefunden und mein Shareware-Programm l=E4uft auf allen anderen
Rechner-Konfigurationen bereits seit l=E4ngerer Zeit fehlerfrei.

Jetzt meine Frage: Ist Euch irgendwas bekannt, m=FCssen unter Win2000
bestimmte Befehle gemieden werden? Hat vielleicht schon jemand die Beta
von Win2000 installiert? Falls mir jemand aktiv hilft, dann w=E4re da auc=
h
ein kleiner Obelus drin, denn mein Shareware-B=F6rsenprogramm "DAXA-Chart=
"
(zu finden auf "http://www.daxa-chart.de") verkauft sich bei der guten
B=F6rsenlage z.Zt. recht gut. :-)


Sch=F6ne Gr=FC=DFe aus Nordfriesland
                                Peter

-------------------------------- Schnipp --------------------------------

Hier jetzt der Teil aus dem Listing, in dem der Fehler "Device voll"
auftritt. Die Procedure teilt die zusammengepackte Gesamtinstallation
"Daxchart.exe" in einzelne Dateien auf, d.h. das Programm greift auf sich
selbst zu. 'ziel_dir$' und 'datei$' wurden schon vorher in kurze
Dateinamen gwandelt, #1 wird nat=FCrlich schon in der vorherigen PROCEDUR=
E
ge=F6ffnet.


PROCEDURE extract(datei$,laenge%)
  ProcNrRet=3DProcNr
  ProcNr=3D100
  LOCAL nach$=3Dziel_dir$+"\"+datei$
  '
  OPEN "O",#2,_OEM$(nach$)
  WHILE laenge%>32000
    PRINT #2,INPUT$(32000,#1);
    SUB laenge%,32000
    abbruch!=3D@keylook
    ADD CopLen%,32000
    @zeichne_balken(CopLen%/DaxchartLen%*100)
    EXIT IF abbruch!=3DTRUE
  WEND
  IF abbruch!=3DFALSE
    PRINT #2,INPUT$(laenge%,#1);
    abbruch!=3D@keylook
    ADD CopLen%,laenge%
    @zeichne_balken(CopLen%/DaxchartLen%*100)
  ENDIF
  CLOSE #2
  '
  ProcNr=3DProcNrRet
RETURN
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Hey
Not staying totally current, but I saw something about text & CLS.
Tell'im to print another text at the same location using the same color scheme,
but make it a series or string of spaces somewhat longer than the original.
It'll cover up what was there.  Seems that using spaces requires 135% in terms
of number of charactors since the space is only about 2/3 a char space.  This is
much faster & doesn't cause screen flicker.
<G>
TomR.


At 04:08 PM 31/01/00 -0800, you wrote:
>List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
>Thanks Brent, I will pass it on.
>Dale
>
>Dale Bryant
>http://gfawhelp.gfa.net
>adbryant@msn.com
>adbryant@gfa.net
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "bdd" <BrentDeck@compuserve.com>
>To: <gfabasic@gfa.net>
>Sent: Monday, January 31, 2000 3:52 PM
>Subject: [gfabasic] Scrolling a bitmap with color
>
>
>Dale,
>
>Here's a simple example for Mark Feaver on how to do color in a bitmap,
>so that the colors match those on the screen.
>
>Brent
>
>
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List Member bdd <BrentDeck@compuserve.com> wrote:
I believe there may be a resource leak in the Blitmove program I posted.

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:


--- Tom Record
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> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Hey
> Not staying totally current, but I saw something
> about text & CLS.
> Tell'im to print another text at the same location
> using the same color scheme,
> but make it a series or string of spaces somewhat
> longer than the original.
> It'll cover up what was there.  Seems that using
> spaces requires 135% in terms
> of number of charactors since the space is only
> about 2/3 a char space.  This is
> much faster & doesn't cause screen flicker.
> <G>
> TomR.

Hello !  I don't know if that German guy will get
this or not.  If anyone wants to know how to use
FILL correctly, let me know !  It only took me
=2= hours !  Aggggh !!!  :)

Yes, I'm making a .JPG to vector convertor so I
can have a nice sexy Anime girl introduce her
PK-UNZIPPER.  :)

POLYFILL isn't going to cut it because of the short-
cuts you can take in vectors that are double both
in complexity and size !  So it'll be FILL after
all !  

Dale, you're the leader here, aren't you ?
I'm trying to really read the help file you put
together, GFAWHELP-Freeware Help File, and although
it's chock full of major complex examples, it's not
really explaining the commands.  Am I missing some
of the help file or is that how it is ?

Would like to know because I'm doing my darndest to
learn the "~" commands and your help file is the only
one that covers them.  :/

Sincerely,
David W.

PKUNZIPPER is underway, but I wanna finish my
.jpg vector convertor first that will tag with the
source for that too.  It'll be great !  You can
include full color pictures stored in about 3,000
bytes !  :)  I couldn't do this until I found I could
put .JPGs in GFABasic since it's got the screen to
handle the colors now !

EditFont PLOTTER source will be released, the editor
in .EXE only, I got the ":" to work.  Man I had to
chart it out on paper ugggh, but backspace is very
clever and if you edit anything it chooses the
shortest and most intelligent vectors to append,
edit, or transpose your fonts.  I got about a 30%
savings too for the lot of the data statements,
(3 data lines) to cover 96 characters !

GREDIT is a personal tool for me, it's for writing
games anyway so loss to anyone right ?  (Smile)

The VECTOR sphere routines I'm using as part of my
get-a-life David, I'm trying Pyramax again !  So I
probably won't give that out anytime soon !

If someone wants to kwirk with that rectangle and
colortext swirler and sizer, I'll put it out but it's
really only useful for doing all refresh work which
looks worse than that magic WindowLock which is 100%
flicker free and every pixel accurate.

If memory was a problem in GFA, I can see my all
vector graphic library being useful, but it's not
so I'll stick with WindowLock for my apps.

That's all from here !  Oh, and Dad is finally
getting interested enough in GFABasic to have a hand
at it.  He's the one that taught me stuff but his
expertise is artificial intelligence software.

That's over my head.  :)

Sincerely,
David W.
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I want to create MEMDC - invisible screen to draw for e.g. box, line or =
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List Member Vogel Michael <vo@schoeller.at> wrote:
Hi, 

if I am using DRAW x&,y& (or even ~SetPixel...) on certain Videodrivers
(Matrox Millenium, TrueColor) for setting a black dot, not even this dot
appears but also a yellow one beside the black one, like a shadow. I've
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problem. Who can help ????

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List Member Wolfgang Schindler <w.schindler@josefstal.de> wrote:
Hi Peter

> I want to create MEMDC - invisible screen to draw for e.g. box, line
> or put my picture. And next I want ro show it by change the MEMDC to
> visible. How could I do it?

you could try to read the GFA-basic-manual and there you would read=20
(in German, sorry)

OPENW #1

FOR i%=3D0 TO 500
  COLOR RAND(_C)-1
  LINE RAND(_X),RAND(_Y),RAND(_X),RAND(_Y)
NEXT i%
h& =3D MEMDC(_DC(1))
// logisches DC erzeugen und Handle holen
bmp& =3D CreateCompatibleBitmap(_DC(1),_X,_Y)
// kompatible Bitmap erzeugen und Handle holen
old& =3D SelectObject(h&,bmp&)	  // selektiert die Bitmap
~BitBlt(h&,0,0,_X,_Y,_DC(1),0,0,SRCCOPY)
// kopiert die Bitmap ins MEMDC
CLS
KEYGET a%
~BitBlt(_DC(1),50,50,_X,_Y,h&,0,0,SRCCOPY)
// kopiert die Bitmap ins Fenster
old& =3D SelectObject(h&,old&)   	// selektiert die alte Bitmap

~DeleteObject(old&)          		// und l=F6scht diese
FREEDC h&                    		// Speicher freigeben
KEYGET a%
CLOSEW #1


Das Beispiel erzeugt eine MemoryDeviceContext-Struktur, die mit der des
Window-DC identisch ist (gleiche Anzahl Farben, Style, usw.) und legt
eine Bitmap an, die mit der des Fensters kompatibel ist.
Danach wird die Bitmap mittels SelectObject() angew=E4hlt. BitBlt()
kopiert die Fenster-Bitmap von Fenster 1 in das Memory-DC. CLS l=F6scht
das Fenster, und BitBlt kopiert den zuvor geretteten Inhalt wieder in
das Fenster.=20

Da jedoch bei Bitblt() ein Offset von (50,50) angegeben wurde, wird der
Inhalt des Memory-DC 50 Pixel nach rechts und 50 nach unten in das
Fenster kopiert. Es wird nun wieder die alte Bitmap angew=E4hlt und die
neue gel=F6scht. Letztendlich wird der Speicher des Memory-DC freigegeben.
--=20

mit freundlichen / herzlichen Gr=FC=DFen

Wolfgang Schindler=20

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
DavidW, DavidW, DavidW!
When you get the *.jpg to *.wmf working well enough to be able to display'em,
GIMME! GIMME! GIMME! GIMME! GIMME! GIMME! GIMME! GIMME! GIMME! GIMME! GIMME! 

Using the input filter/*.dll combo I found on Roland's site & the *.wmf routine
in some sort of combo *should* work, but I'm not yet getting there.

One disappointing feature about that route... a *.wmf winds up being one hell
of a lot bigger than the original *.jpg, but being able to STRETCH or BLT in
either direction w/o mucquing up the image is very desireable.  I've had to
resort to others' appls to accomplish this & many DO NOT yield placeable *.wmf!

I *thot* it'd be great for screensavers, but mebbeso NOT?  I want'em to be able
to fill the screen regardless of the graphic settings of the monitor.

Sorry you don't like text over text to erase'em... works great for me & doesn't
flicker or flash for me.
<G>
TomR.


At 09:00 PM 31/01/00 -0800, you wrote:
>List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>--- Tom Record
><tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> List Member Tom Record
>> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> Hey
>> Not staying totally current, but I saw something
>> about text & CLS.
>> Tell'im to print another text at the same location
>> using the same color scheme,
>> but make it a series or string of spaces somewhat
>> longer than the original.
>> It'll cover up what was there.  Seems that using
>> spaces requires 135% in terms
>> of number of charactors since the space is only
>> about 2/3 a char space.  This is
>> much faster & doesn't cause screen flicker.
>> <G>
>> TomR.
>
>Hello !  I don't know if that German guy will get
>this or not.  If anyone wants to know how to use
>FILL correctly, let me know !  It only took me
>=2= hours !  Aggggh !!!  :)
>
>Yes, I'm making a .JPG to vector convertor so I
>can have a nice sexy Anime girl introduce her
>PK-UNZIPPER.  :)
>
>POLYFILL isn't going to cut it because of the short-
>cuts you can take in vectors that are double both
>in complexity and size !  So it'll be FILL after
>all !  
>
>Dale, you're the leader here, aren't you ?
>I'm trying to really read the help file you put
>together, GFAWHELP-Freeware Help File, and although
>it's chock full of major complex examples, it's not
>really explaining the commands.  Am I missing some
>of the help file or is that how it is ?
>
>Would like to know because I'm doing my darndest to
>learn the "~" commands and your help file is the only
>one that covers them.  :/
>
>Sincerely,
>David W.
>
>PKUNZIPPER is underway, but I wanna finish my
>.jpg vector convertor first that will tag with the
>source for that too.  It'll be great !  You can
>include full color pictures stored in about 3,000
>bytes !  :)  I couldn't do this until I found I could
>put .JPGs in GFABasic since it's got the screen to
>handle the colors now !
>
>EditFont PLOTTER source will be released, the editor
>in .EXE only, I got the ":" to work.  Man I had to
>chart it out on paper ugggh, but backspace is very
>clever and if you edit anything it chooses the
>shortest and most intelligent vectors to append,
>edit, or transpose your fonts.  I got about a 30%
>savings too for the lot of the data statements,
>(3 data lines) to cover 96 characters !
>
>GREDIT is a personal tool for me, it's for writing
>games anyway so loss to anyone right ?  (Smile)
>
>The VECTOR sphere routines I'm using as part of my
>get-a-life David, I'm trying Pyramax again !  So I
>probably won't give that out anytime soon !
>
>If someone wants to kwirk with that rectangle and
>colortext swirler and sizer, I'll put it out but it's
>really only useful for doing all refresh work which
>looks worse than that magic WindowLock which is 100%
>flicker free and every pixel accurate.
>
>If memory was a problem in GFA, I can see my all
>vector graphic library being useful, but it's not
>so I'll stick with WindowLock for my apps.
>
>That's all from here !  Oh, and Dad is finally
>getting interested enough in GFABasic to have a hand
>at it.  He's the one that taught me stuff but his
>expertise is artificial intelligence software.
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>That's over my head.  :)
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:


--- Micha=B3_Sejfried <42810730@pro.onet.pl> wrote:
> Hi. Here's Peter.
>=20
>=20
> I want to create MEMDC - invisible screen to draw
> for e.g. box, line or put my picture. And next I
> want ro show it by change the MEMDC to visible. How
> could I do it?

Hey Peter !  You're only asking for one of the
tastiest routines in GFABasic !  :) It's one of the
first lessons I learned taught to me by
grandmaster GFA Programmer, Russell Hayward !

His page is at:
http://www.baphead.freeserve.co.uk/index.html

Download a clean copy of LaserZap, a game me and
him tossed together at Dale Bryant's GFA-Help Page !
http://www.gfawhelp.gfa.net/

If you can learn this technique (it took me awhile)
you are well on your way to flicker free gfx !

Good Luck, and if you're working on a game of such,
let me know, because that's right up my alley !

If you get stuck, I'll be glad to help !  I probably
need to write a program sometime that isolates that
one excellent function so it can be seen clearly.

Sincerely,
David W.
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--- Vogel Michael <vo@schoeller.at> wrote:
> List Member Vogel Michael <vo@schoeller.at> wrote:
> Hi, 
> 
> if I am using DRAW x&,y& (or even ~SetPixel...) on
> certain Videodrivers
> (Matrox Millenium, TrueColor) for setting a black
> dot, not even this dot
> appears but also a yellow one beside the black one,
> like a shadow. I've
> never seen this effect with any other program
> (painting programs, etc.), so
> I don't think, the API or the video drivers are the
> (only) reason for that
> problem. Who can help ????
> 
> Michael

Greets Michael !  Hey, it's nice to see some people
working on graphics !  :)  Okay, I don't know if this
is related, but some monitors display pixels you
didn't ask for because they actually cannot plot
that many colors.  A good example is from a pretty
outdated computer I used to work on, Commodore Amiga.
It has what is called HAM graphics.  Which means
Hold And Modify.  You could change the:
Red/Green, Red/Blue, or Green/Blue elements, but not
all 3 at one time.  It's possible that stray pixel
that's appearing could be related to this.

Then again, it could be that GFABasic is
misinterpreting the graphic driver your Windows is
using.  I have heard that DirectX is the way to go
but I haven't seen the benefits of it completely
myself yet.  ~SETPIXEL should work.  Can you send
a small example program ?  And maybe we could all
try it out to see if we get similar results ?

Sincerely,
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--- Wolfgang Schindler <w.schindler@josefstal.de>
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> List Member Wolfgang Schindler
> <w.schindler@josefstal.de> wrote:
> Hi Peter
>=20
> > I want to create MEMDC - invisible screen to draw
> for e.g. box, line
> > or put my picture. And next I want ro show it by
> change the MEMDC to
> > visible. How could I do it?
>=20
> you could try to read the GFA-basic-manual and there
> you would read=20
> (in German, sorry)
>=20
> OPENW #1
>=20
> FOR i%=3D0 TO 500
>   COLOR RAND(_C)-1
>   LINE RAND(_X),RAND(_Y),RAND(_X),RAND(_Y)
> NEXT i%
> h& =3D MEMDC(_DC(1))
> // logisches DC erzeugen und Handle holen
> bmp& =3D CreateCompatibleBitmap(_DC(1),_X,_Y)
> // kompatible Bitmap erzeugen und Handle holen
> old& =3D SelectObject(h&,bmp&)	  // selektiert die
> Bitmap
> ~BitBlt(h&,0,0,_X,_Y,_DC(1),0,0,SRCCOPY)
> // kopiert die Bitmap ins MEMDC
> CLS
> KEYGET a%
> ~BitBlt(_DC(1),50,50,_X,_Y,h&,0,0,SRCCOPY)
> // kopiert die Bitmap ins Fenster
> old& =3D SelectObject(h&,old&)   	// selektiert die
> alte Bitmap
>=20
> ~DeleteObject(old&)          		// und l=F6scht diese
> FREEDC h&                    		// Speicher freigeben
> KEYGET a%
> CLOSEW #1
>=20
>=20
> Das Beispiel erzeugt eine
> MemoryDeviceContext-Struktur, die mit der des
> Window-DC identisch ist (gleiche Anzahl Farben,
> Style, usw.) und legt
> eine Bitmap an, die mit der des Fensters kompatibel
> ist.
> Danach wird die Bitmap mittels SelectObject()
> angew=E4hlt. BitBlt()
> kopiert die Fenster-Bitmap von Fenster 1 in das
> Memory-DC. CLS l=F6scht
> das Fenster, und BitBlt kopiert den zuvor geretteten
> Inhalt wieder in
> das Fenster.=20
>=20
> Da jedoch bei Bitblt() ein Offset von (50,50)
> angegeben wurde, wird der
> Inhalt des Memory-DC 50 Pixel nach rechts und 50
> nach unten in das
> Fenster kopiert. Es wird nun wieder die alte Bitmap
> angew=E4hlt und die
> neue gel=F6scht. Letztendlich wird der Speicher des
> Memory-DC freigegeben.
> --=20
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> mit freundlichen / herzlichen Gr=FC=DFen
>=20
> Wolfgang Schindler=20
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>=20

Greets Wolfgang !  We've been needing thise code
for a-while !  Okay, it didn't run on my computer
because of the "_C" thingie.  Here is what ran
on my computer and I'll try to put in some English
dox.  :)

/ / / / / Get out your good pair of shiny scissors !
8< ------------------------------------------- >8

OPENW #1
' ^ Open up a simple window with default parameters

NewDC& =3D MEMDC(_DC(1))
' ^ This makes a copy our our current _DC(1), which is
the way
'   GFABasic locates pointers and stuff to our now
open window

' bmp& =3D CreateCompatibleBitmap(_DC(1),_X,_Y)

BMP& =3D CREATEBMP(_X,_Y)
' ^ This is a shorter way to do the same as the line
above
' ^ We're going to create a pointer to a bitmap that
has pretty
'   well the same characteristics as our already open
window

Old& =3D SelectObject(NewDC&,BMP&)
' ^ This is for putting everything back to normal when
we are
'   done, don't forget it !

SETDC NewDC&
' * We just told GFA to now plot only to our hidden
page !

RGBCOLOR RGB(255,255,255)
' ^ Select true color white

PBOX 0,0,_X,_Y
' ^ Clear screen to white
' ^ This is needed because even though we did make a
virtual
'   screen it's got a lotta trash and garbage on it
right now
'   REM out this statement to see, don't worry, it
won't hurt
'   anything, but whatta mess huumm ??

FOR I =3D 0 TO 500

  ' COLOR RAND(_C) - 1
  ' ^ This shows just white on my already white screen

  ' COLOR RAND(8)
  ' ^ Choose just 8 colors this works, but let's do
better than that.

  RGBCOLOR RGB(RAND(256),RAND(256),RAND(256))
  ' ^ This is faster and note that you can have up to
true 3 RGB
  '   colors from the 3 RAND(256) places, millions of
colors !  :)

  LINE RAND(_X),RAND(_Y),RAND(_X),RAND(_Y)
  ' ^ If you didn't know, "_X" retrieves the max size
across of our
  '   open window, and "_Y" gets you the max size down

NEXT I
' ^ You must mention the variable name when closing
any For/Next
'   loop

KEYGET K
' ^ Pause a bit and wait for a keystroke, notice even
though
'   we drew a lotta stuff, nothing showed up,
'   it's HIDDEN, remember ?  :)

BITBLT NewDC&,0,0,_X,_Y,_DC(1),0,0,SRCCOPY
' ^ Rapidfire transfer our hidden screen to our
visible one,
'   look up BITBLT in the main help file for the many
different
'   ways you can transfer a block region

KEYGET K
' ^ Ah !  We can see now that it truly did copy over
cleanly !

Old& =3D SelectObject(NewDC&,Old&)
~DeleteObject(Old&)
FREEDC NewDC&
' ^ Very important !  Always clean up the temporary
bitmaps
'   and virtual windows we used to create this stuff

CLOSEW #1
' ^ Keep life tidy by closing our open window

------- 8< stop cutting now..

Hey !  Don't eat that paste !  :)

If that didn't come out right in this messaging
window thingie, I've included a tiny PKZIP of it
in here too.

Sincerely,
David W.
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:


--- Tom Record
<tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> DavidW, DavidW, DavidW!
> When you get the *.jpg to *.wmf working well enough
> to be able to display'em,
> GIMME! GIMME! GIMME! GIMME! GIMME! GIMME! GIMME!
> GIMME! GIMME! GIMME! GIMME! 

What's a WMF file ?  And don't worry, everyone is
going to get a copy.  ;)

> 
> Using the input filter/*.dll combo I found on
> Roland's site & the *.wmf routine
> in some sort of combo *should* work, but I'm not yet
> getting there.
> 
> One disappointing feature about that route... a
> *.wmf winds up being one hell
> of a lot bigger than the original *.jpg, but being
> able to STRETCH or BLT in
> either direction w/o mucquing up the image is very
> desireable.  I've had to
> resort to others' appls to accomplish this & many DO
> NOT yield placeable *.wmf!

You can always use PKZIP and PKUNZIP to create
virtual data files to store pictures.  The advantage ?
Even though someone may PKZIP your package, it only
crunched about 1% and that's good tight coding
everyone needs.  .JPGs are good because they do
true crunch on photo-quality pix.  It's what is
called a lossy effect though because when you start
munching up the bytes to save space, the picture
itself degrades.  If you know what you are doing
and only do one conversion though, it comes out
quite well.  Additional adjustments after the
initial one is not recommended !

If you have a gazillion pictures (like I think most
of us do), :) keep your MASTER pictures separate
because .JPG is not reversible to recover the picture
quality ever !

> 
> I *thot* it'd be great for screensavers, but mebbeso
> NOT?  I want'em to be able
> to fill the screen regardless of the graphic
> settings of the monitor.

Always use _X and _Y then.  Remember, if you set a
window that meets =EXACTLY= that size and not one
pixel less, it will correctly overwrite the entire
display hiding everything, including the little
picture buttons at the bottom.

Check out Kaleidoscope to see how you too can make
a Screen Teaser.  :)

> 
> Sorry you don't like text over text to erase'em...
> works great for me & doesn't
> flicker or flash for me.
> <G>
> TomR.

Hey Tom !  Use this:
GRAPHMODE R2_COPYPEN,TRANSPARENT

This prevents that nasty little white border box
from appearing around your text.

If you =JUST= want a monospaced typeface, use:
SETFONT OEM_FIXED_FONT

You don't have to, but it's kinna polite to put
it back when you are done (because any GFA program
after that will use your monospaced font)

SETFONT SYSTEM_FONT

Note, you =MUST= type out the arguments for SETFONT
with your CAPS LOCK ON !  If you don't it will think
you are trying a user-defined variable instead.

You can know well it works because the argument match
will the color exactly of the "SETFONT" word.

Sincerely,
David W.

I'm going to be out of pocket today, going to Dad's
and do his end of month.  Yah but I get paid $10/hr
so I can't complain TOO loudly !  :)

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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
 Hi David,
David, I am NOT the leader here but just a subscriber as you are. GFAWHELP
is a how-to application and does not explain how a command works.  I have
seen some of your work so I am sure you can successfully determine how most
of the commands can be used.  It seems that  because I have a gfa.net email
address people assume I am affiliated with GFA Software Technologies.  I am
just a user, as you are. Perhaps a dedicated user, but just a user
nonetheless.
I answer questions usually not from my own knowledge but because I have so
many friends who are also willing to share.
Keep coding!
Dale

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Subject: Re: [gfabasic] Scrolling a bitmap with color


> List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> --- Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> > List Member Tom Record
> > <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> > Hey
> > Not staying totally current, but I saw something
> > about text & CLS.
> > Tell'im to print another text at the same location
> > using the same color scheme,
> > but make it a series or string of spaces somewhat
> > longer than the original.
> > It'll cover up what was there.  Seems that using
> > spaces requires 135% in terms
> > of number of charactors since the space is only
> > about 2/3 a char space.  This is
> > much faster & doesn't cause screen flicker.
> > <G>
> > TomR.
>
> Hello !  I don't know if that German guy will get
> this or not.  If anyone wants to know how to use
> FILL correctly, let me know !  It only took me
> =2= hours !  Aggggh !!!  :)
>
> Yes, I'm making a .JPG to vector convertor so I
> can have a nice sexy Anime girl introduce her
> PK-UNZIPPER.  :)
>
> POLYFILL isn't going to cut it because of the short-
> cuts you can take in vectors that are double both
> in complexity and size !  So it'll be FILL after
> all !
>
> Dale, you're the leader here, aren't you ?
> I'm trying to really read the help file you put
> together, GFAWHELP-Freeware Help File, and although
> it's chock full of major complex examples, it's not
> really explaining the commands.  Am I missing some
> of the help file or is that how it is ?
>
> Would like to know because I'm doing my darndest to
> learn the "~" commands and your help file is the only
> one that covers them.  :/
>
> Sincerely,
> David W.
>
> PKUNZIPPER is underway, but I wanna finish my
> .jpg vector convertor first that will tag with the
> source for that too.  It'll be great !  You can
> include full color pictures stored in about 3,000
> bytes !  :)  I couldn't do this until I found I could
> put .JPGs in GFABasic since it's got the screen to
> handle the colors now !
>
> EditFont PLOTTER source will be released, the editor
> in .EXE only, I got the ":" to work.  Man I had to
> chart it out on paper ugggh, but backspace is very
> clever and if you edit anything it chooses the
> shortest and most intelligent vectors to append,
> edit, or transpose your fonts.  I got about a 30%
> savings too for the lot of the data statements,
> (3 data lines) to cover 96 characters !
>
> GREDIT is a personal tool for me, it's for writing
> games anyway so loss to anyone right ?  (Smile)
>
> The VECTOR sphere routines I'm using as part of my
> get-a-life David, I'm trying Pyramax again !  So I
> probably won't give that out anytime soon !
>
> If someone wants to kwirk with that rectangle and
> colortext swirler and sizer, I'll put it out but it's
> really only useful for doing all refresh work which
> looks worse than that magic WindowLock which is 100%
> flicker free and every pixel accurate.
>
> If memory was a problem in GFA, I can see my all
> vector graphic library being useful, but it's not
> so I'll stick with WindowLock for my apps.
>
> That's all from here !  Oh, and Dad is finally
> getting interested enough in GFABasic to have a hand
> at it.  He's the one that taught me stuff but his
> expertise is artificial intelligence software.
>
> That's over my head.  :)
>
> Sincerely,
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Why David, I am surprised at  you, and you a graphic guru. (G)
WMF -Windows Meta File

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From: "David Wicker" <dw817@yahoo.com>
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Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2000 7:34 AM
Subject: Re: [gfabasic] Scrolling a bitmap with color


> List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> --- Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> > List Member Tom Record
> > <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> > DavidW, DavidW, DavidW!
> > When you get the *.jpg to *.wmf working well enough
> > to be able to display'em,
> > GIMME! GIMME! GIMME! GIMME! GIMME! GIMME! GIMME!
> > GIMME! GIMME! GIMME! GIMME!
>
> What's a WMF file ?  And don't worry, everyone is
> going to get a copy.  ;)
>
> >
> > Using the input filter/*.dll combo I found on
> > Roland's site & the *.wmf routine
> > in some sort of combo *should* work, but I'm not yet
> > getting there.
> >
> > One disappointing feature about that route... a
> > *.wmf winds up being one hell
> > of a lot bigger than the original *.jpg, but being
> > able to STRETCH or BLT in
> > either direction w/o mucquing up the image is very
> > desireable.  I've had to
> > resort to others' appls to accomplish this & many DO
> > NOT yield placeable *.wmf!
>
> You can always use PKZIP and PKUNZIP to create
> virtual data files to store pictures.  The advantage ?
> Even though someone may PKZIP your package, it only
> crunched about 1% and that's good tight coding
> everyone needs.  .JPGs are good because they do
> true crunch on photo-quality pix.  It's what is
> called a lossy effect though because when you start
> munching up the bytes to save space, the picture
> itself degrades.  If you know what you are doing
> and only do one conversion though, it comes out
> quite well.  Additional adjustments after the
> initial one is not recommended !
>
> If you have a gazillion pictures (like I think most
> of us do), :) keep your MASTER pictures separate
> because .JPG is not reversible to recover the picture
> quality ever !
>
> >
> > I *thot* it'd be great for screensavers, but mebbeso
> > NOT?  I want'em to be able
> > to fill the screen regardless of the graphic
> > settings of the monitor.
>
> Always use _X and _Y then.  Remember, if you set a
> window that meets =EXACTLY= that size and not one
> pixel less, it will correctly overwrite the entire
> display hiding everything, including the little
> picture buttons at the bottom.
>
> Check out Kaleidoscope to see how you too can make
> a Screen Teaser.  :)
>
> >
> > Sorry you don't like text over text to erase'em...
> > works great for me & doesn't
> > flicker or flash for me.
> > <G>
> > TomR.
>
> Hey Tom !  Use this:
> GRAPHMODE R2_COPYPEN,TRANSPARENT
>
> This prevents that nasty little white border box
> from appearing around your text.
>
> If you =JUST= want a monospaced typeface, use:
> SETFONT OEM_FIXED_FONT
>
> You don't have to, but it's kinna polite to put
> it back when you are done (because any GFA program
> after that will use your monospaced font)
>
> SETFONT SYSTEM_FONT
>
> Note, you =MUST= type out the arguments for SETFONT
> with your CAPS LOCK ON !  If you don't it will think
> you are trying a user-defined variable instead.
>
> You can know well it works because the argument match
> will the color exactly of the "SETFONT" word.
>
> Sincerely,
> David W.
>
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David
With the help of Patrik Battig translating the calls, I brought
*.jpg to GFA-W(16) a couple of years ago.  I was shooting microfilm
to the computer as *.jpg 4, 5 years ago.  Br=F8derbund is now using a
derivative of my process.  Mine were 220K (15000x12000) 8-bit gray.

Did I mistake your comments that you were working on converting *.jpg
to metafile?  That's going to *.wmf (Windows MetaFile) unless you are
going to *.cgi.  Raster to Vector, in any case.

I'm already doing screensavers, wallpaper, desktop, W95 logos, etc. I
thought *.wmf might be a better format for the savers until I saw just=20
how terribly large the files would be when converting even a 2K *.jpg.

Am working on transitional effects - from one image to the next.  Have
2 or 3, want another 10 or 15.  Never satisfied.  Can scroll images, &
w/ John's help, can now do so continuously.

If you have GFA-W(16) source for loading *.jpg, would certainly like to
get my hands on it so I would be able to stop sending *.dlls with things.

The same desire goes for *.png - makes a file slightly larger than *.jpg,
much smaller than *.gif, & is NOT lossy.  Retains original dpi, colordepth,
etc.

Oh... *.cab (MS) makes a file even smaller than *.zip (PK).  All Win95+
machines have uncab capability.  I tried to sort out the format so I could
produce it on my own, but am not that clever.  I have a lot of archiving
*.dlls, etc., on my website if you are interested.

http://TiGeR1.webjump.com/sdk/win31wh.zip     The Win31SDK helpfile ~2.6M=
 zip.
http://TiGeR1.webjump.com/sdk/mci_hlp.zip     The Win3.1 MCI & MM
helpfiles~2.54M
http://TiGeR1.webjump.com/sdk/allmmiav.zip    Win3.1 MultiMedia helpfiles=
 ~342K=20
http://TiGeR1.webjump.com/arcvs/cab.zip       MS's cab archivers 742,606
http://TiGeR1.webjump.com/arcvs/compress.zip  A variety of archivers 960,734
http://TiGeR1.webjump.com/arcvs/lhapk1.zip    1/2 LHA - w/ source 909,118
http://TiGeR1.webjump.com/arcvs/lhapkg2.zip   2/2 LHA - w/ source 1,216,543
http://TiGeR1.webjump.com/arcvs/lz1.zip       LZ archiver 161,746
http://TiGeR1.webjump.com/arcvs/rarpkg1.zip   1/2 rar archivers 1,136,760
http://TiGeR1.webjump.com/arcvs/rarpkg2.zip   2/2 rar archivers 599,512
http://TiGeR1.webjump.com/arcvs/zip1.zip      zip/unzip *.dlls, etc. 388,148
http://TiGeR1.webjump.com/arcvs/zlib16.zip    16-bit zlib.dll w/ VB calls=
 36,737

There are other things there, so to check'em out, http://TiGeR1.webjump.com/

COLOR GETNEAREST(f,f,f),GETNEAREST(b,b,b)
TEXT x,y,"whatever"
or=20
TEXT x,y,SPACE$(n) to cover it up.
You can use GetTextExt to set the length of the coverup from the "whatever".
<G>
TomR.


At 07:34 AM 01/02/00 -0800, you wrote:
>List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>--- Tom Record
><tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> List Member Tom Record
>> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> DavidW, DavidW, DavidW!
>> When you get the *.jpg to *.wmf working well enough
>> to be able to display'em,
>> GIMME! GIMME! GIMME! GIMME! GIMME! GIMME! GIMME!
>> GIMME! GIMME! GIMME! GIMME!=20
>
>What's a WMF file ?  And don't worry, everyone is
>going to get a copy.  ;)
>
>>=20
>> Using the input filter/*.dll combo I found on
>> Roland's site & the *.wmf routine
>> in some sort of combo *should* work, but I'm not yet
>> getting there.
>>=20
>> One disappointing feature about that route... a
>> *.wmf winds up being one hell
>> of a lot bigger than the original *.jpg, but being
>> able to STRETCH or BLT in
>> either direction w/o mucquing up the image is very
>> desireable.  I've had to
>> resort to others' appls to accomplish this & many DO
>> NOT yield placeable *.wmf!
>
>You can always use PKZIP and PKUNZIP to create
>virtual data files to store pictures.  The advantage ?
>Even though someone may PKZIP your package, it only
>crunched about 1% and that's good tight coding
>everyone needs.  .JPGs are good because they do
>true crunch on photo-quality pix.  It's what is
>called a lossy effect though because when you start
>munching up the bytes to save space, the picture
>itself degrades.  If you know what you are doing
>and only do one conversion though, it comes out
>quite well.  Additional adjustments after the
>initial one is not recommended !
>
>If you have a gazillion pictures (like I think most
>of us do), :) keep your MASTER pictures separate
>because .JPG is not reversible to recover the picture
>quality ever !
>
>>=20
>> I *thot* it'd be great for screensavers, but mebbeso
>> NOT?  I want'em to be able
>> to fill the screen regardless of the graphic
>> settings of the monitor.
>
>Always use _X and _Y then.  Remember, if you set a
>window that meets =3DEXACTLY=3D that size and not one
>pixel less, it will correctly overwrite the entire
>display hiding everything, including the little
>picture buttons at the bottom.
>
>Check out Kaleidoscope to see how you too can make
>a Screen Teaser.  :)
>
>>=20
>> Sorry you don't like text over text to erase'em...
>> works great for me & doesn't
>> flicker or flash for me.
>> <G>
>> TomR.
>
>Hey Tom !  Use this:
>GRAPHMODE R2_COPYPEN,TRANSPARENT
>
>This prevents that nasty little white border box
>from appearing around your text.
>
>If you =3DJUST=3D want a monospaced typeface, use:
>SETFONT OEM_FIXED_FONT
>
>You don't have to, but it's kinna polite to put
>it back when you are done (because any GFA program
>after that will use your monospaced font)
>
>SETFONT SYSTEM_FONT
>
>Note, you =3DMUST=3D type out the arguments for SETFONT
>with your CAPS LOCK ON !  If you don't it will think
>you are trying a user-defined variable instead.
>
>You can know well it works because the argument match
>will the color exactly of the "SETFONT" word.
>
>Sincerely,
>David W.
>
>I'm going to be out of pocket today, going to Dad's
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If you can get him to talk, Roland Walter is the real graphics programmer.
He translates "C" to GFA-W(16) directly & introduces a lot of goodies to
the language.  One of my screensaver formats is codec-compressed *.bmp.

When Joe Hurst can afford the time, he's another PRO at graphics.
John Lindsay is right in there, too - he gave GFA-W(16) a REAL *.gif reader!

GETDEVCAPS(COLORRES) might serve better than _C (GFA built-in)

It is truly good to see new blood in the graphics/image arena!  Welcome!
<G>
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>--- Micha=B3_Sejfried <42810730@pro.onet.pl> wrote:
>> Hi. Here's Peter.
>>=20
>>=20
>> I want to create MEMDC - invisible screen to draw
>> for e.g. box, line or put my picture. And next I
>> want ro show it by change the MEMDC to visible. How
>> could I do it?
>
>Hey Peter !  You're only asking for one of the
>tastiest routines in GFABasic !  :) It's one of the
>first lessons I learned taught to me by
>grandmaster GFA Programmer, Russell Hayward !
>
>His page is at:
>http://www.baphead.freeserve.co.uk/index.html
>
>Download a clean copy of LaserZap, a game me and
>him tossed together at Dale Bryant's GFA-Help Page !
>http://www.gfawhelp.gfa.net/
>
>If you can learn this technique (it took me awhile)
>you are well on your way to flicker free gfx !
>
>Good Luck, and if you're working on a game of such,
>let me know, because that's right up my alley !
>
>If you get stuck, I'll be glad to help !  I probably
>need to write a program sometime that isolates that
>one excellent function so it can be seen clearly.
>
>Sincerely,
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At 05:08 PM 01/02/00 +0000, you wrote:
>List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>David
>If you can get him to talk, Roland Walter is the real graphics programmer.
>He translates "C" to GFA-W(16) directly & introduces a lot of goodies to
>the language.  One of my screensaver formats is codec-compressed *.bmp.
>
>When Joe Hurst can afford the time, he's another PRO at graphics.
>John Lindsay is right in there, too - he gave GFA-W(16) a REAL *.gif=
 reader!
>
+++ John Findlay! John Findlay! John Findlay! John Findlay! John Findlay!
John Findlay!
 John Findlay! John Findlay! John Findlay! John Findlay! John Findlay! John
Findlay!
>
>GETDEVCAPS(COLORRES) might serve better than _C (GFA built-in)
>
>It is truly good to see new blood in the graphics/image arena!  Welcome!
><G>
>TomR.
>
>
>At 06:25 AM 01/02/00 -0800, you wrote:
>>List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>--- Micha=B3_Sejfried <42810730@pro.onet.pl> wrote:
>>> Hi. Here's Peter.
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> I want to create MEMDC - invisible screen to draw
>>> for e.g. box, line or put my picture. And next I
>>> want ro show it by change the MEMDC to visible. How
>>> could I do it?
>>
>>Hey Peter !  You're only asking for one of the
>>tastiest routines in GFABasic !  :) It's one of the
>>first lessons I learned taught to me by
>>grandmaster GFA Programmer, Russell Hayward !
>>
>>His page is at:
>>http://www.baphead.freeserve.co.uk/index.html
>>
>>Download a clean copy of LaserZap, a game me and
>>him tossed together at Dale Bryant's GFA-Help Page !
>>http://www.gfawhelp.gfa.net/
>>
>>If you can learn this technique (it took me awhile)
>>you are well on your way to flicker free gfx !
>>
>>Good Luck, and if you're working on a game of such,
>>let me know, because that's right up my alley !
>>
>>If you get stuck, I'll be glad to help !  I probably
>>need to write a program sometime that isolates that
>>one excellent function so it can be seen clearly.
>>
>>Sincerely,
>>David W.
>>http://www.geocities.com/dw817
>>
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--- Tom Record
<tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> At 05:08 PM 01/02/00 +0000, you wrote:
> >List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> >David
> >If you can get him to talk, Roland Walter is the
> real graphics programmer.

Is he in this Email forum ?

> >He translates "C" to GFA-W(16) directly &
> introduces a lot of goodies to
> >the language.  One of my screensaver formats is
> codec-compressed *.bmp.

I don't know that word, Codec.

> >
> >When Joe Hurst can afford the time, he's another
> PRO at graphics.
> >John Lindsay is right in there, too - he gave
> GFA-W(16) a REAL *.gif reader!

I need both a window reader & writer, thus, Pixie !

> >
> +++ John Findlay! John Findlay! John Findlay! John
> Findlay! John Findlay!
> John Findlay!
>  John Findlay! John Findlay! John Findlay! John
> Findlay! John Findlay! John
> Findlay!
> >
> >GETDEVCAPS(COLORRES) might serve better than _C
> (GFA built-in)
> >
> >It is truly good to see new blood in the
> graphics/image arena!  Welcome!
> ><G>
> >TomR.

Thanks Tom !  Swirl will be released first before
The UNZIPPER.  I'm poking in some of my QBasic
archives and doing a few conversions.

Okay, a few questions, that's right, wake up
everyone.  Yes, I know you weren't asleep (much) :)

+ If I create a OPENW1 with 400x300, how do I use
MEMDC to make a virtual 1024x1024 screen where I
can BITBLTT anywhere from 0x0 to 623x723 where I
don't get garbage but I can actually plot anywhere
in the 1024x1024 field until I close it.

+ I would like to tweak with either POKE, PORT, or
OUT so I can stuff keys directly in the key buffer.
That is, I could hit CTRL-F1 in NOTEPAD and it would
type out the word HELLO because I have a GFABasic
program running in the background with no window
and is active always until I close it.

+ I would like to be able to adjust the MIDI
volume on the fly while it plays.  By scanning ahead
into its contents, I could adjust the volume
accordingly so it is always "correct" and is never
too quiet or too loud because it keeps adjusting
itself.

+ I would like to know where I can find a .EXE
packer, that is, a program that can take the fairly
small .EXE that requires the GFARUN10.DLL file and
crunches it down, not just for size but for
protection.  The EXEs crunch down 50% or bigger
and that's too much.  I imagine reverse-engineering
a GFA executable is frighteningly easy,
(my paranoid mind kicking in), possibly by GFA
themselves so they can always examine what anyone
has written.  :)

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:


--- Dale Bryant <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com>
> wrote:
> Why David, I am surprised at  you, and you a graphic
> guru. (G)
> WMF -Windows Meta File

* Hey !  Cut me a little slack here.  This is the
first
time I've written any Windows software !  :)

What does it do ?  I've downloaded them occasionally
from the news shock groups and where do you apply
them ?

Sincerely,
David W.

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Subject: [gfabasic] Swirl is Complete !
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
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Here is a nice little Screen Teaser for GFA-BASIC
GFA-Basic I wrote tonite.

Get those scissors again !

8< --------------------------------------------- >8

' 
__________________________________________________________
' |                                                   
      |
' | "Swirl Mark ][" programmed in GFA-Basic 4.38 for
Windows |
' |                               Written by David A.
Wicker |
' | http://www.geocities.com/dw817          
dw817@yahoo.com |
'
|__________________________________________________________|

' Aggh !  Don't look too long or you'll go blind by
the colors !
' :)

' See what a little quick SIN and COS can do !
' As always, if you borrow code from anyone's source
for either
' your own SHAREWARE or FREEWARE projects, please give
credit
' to the original Author !

' This was supposed to be SWIRL I was translating to
GFA-BASIC
' from my original QBasic source code,
' but GFA was so fast at the calculations I decided to
hook in
' more colors and animation !

' It also creates kinna Stained-Glass Windows so I
probably won't
' even bother to translate that from QBasic source. 
:)

' Man they shoulda used this for the Time Machine or
something !
' Pyyeeeoong, Chuff-Chuff, Wreeaa-a-a-a-a-a-a-aaaacch
!
' You can almost hear the colors !

DEFSNG "A-Z"

OPENW #1,0,0,_X,_Y,0

T = 255
' ^ If you have =ZERO= patience for anything good,
change
'   this to 50, default is 255

S = T

D = -.001
' ^ Change this to -.01 for much faster transition
time
'   If you have a Pentium Overlord at 500mhz + , dare
to change
'   this to -.0001
'   default is -.001

M = RAND(8) / (RAND(8) + 1)
COLOR 0
DO
  PBOX 0,0,_X,_Y
  IF M <= -16 THEN M = 16
  FOR Z = 0 TO 399
    S += D
    IF S < .05 OR S >= T THEN D = -D,M --
    IF D < 0

      D = D * .999999
      ' ^ Start to slow it down near the end
    ELSE

      D = D / .999999
      ' ^ Speed it up on reverse explosion

    ENDIF
    FOR I = 179 TO -179 STEP -S * PI ^ 2
      X = 320 + SINQ((I / S) * Z) * Z
      Y = 240 + COSQ((I / S) * Z / 1) * Z
      R = (SGN(D) * I * 1 + Z * 2 + S * 3) * (5 + M)
      G = (SGN(D) * I * 3 + Z * 1 + S * 2) * (4 + M)
      B = (SGN(D) * I * 2 + Z * 3 + S * 1) * (3 + M)

      ~SetPixel(_DC(1),X,Y,RGB(R,G,B))
      ~SetPixel(_DC(1),639 - X,Y,RGB(R,G,B))
      ~SetPixel(_DC(1),X,479 - Y,RGB(R,G,B))
      ~SetPixel(_DC(1),639 - X,479 - Y,RGB(R,G,B))
      ' ^ Plot 4 pixels, one for each mirror location

    NEXT I

    PEEKEVENT
    ' ^ Don't forget about other window stuff running
!

  NEXT Z
LOOP UNTIL INKEY$ > ""

CLOSEW #1
' ^ Keep life Tidy !

' Fudge any of the other numbers to speed up or slow
down the
' animation, color, and activation processes
' Enjoy !

8< ------------------------------------------------->8

Hey, you're gonna get sick if you keep eating that
paste !  :)

Vector JPG is still in the works for the PKUNZIPPER.

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member "John Findlay" <John.Findlay@Byte-it.net> wrote:
Tom,

>John Lindsay is right in there, too - he gave GFA-W(16) a REAL *.gif
reader!
>
+++ John Findlay! John Findlay! John Findlay! John Findlay! John Findlay!
John Findlay!
 John Findlay! John Findlay! John Findlay! John Findlay! John Findlay! John
Findlay!

Thanks for the correction. :-)

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List Member "Eberhard Funck" <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de> wrote:
Hi All,

I remember me that it gives a time (last year), that for some weeks all
GFABASIC-Letters are full of questions and other thinks about
"OWNSUB.DLL" only.

Now I hear nothing about this theme. Are all satisfied????
Nobody works with this DLL and if anyone works with this DLL
why we can not see his result!

Greetings

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
The moment I saw it!!  The ONLY Lindsay I know is a small town in
Texas.  Pills!
TomR.


At 07:32 AM 02/02/00 -0000, you wrote:
>List Member "John Findlay" <John.Findlay@Byte-it.net> wrote:
>Tom,
>
>>John Lindsay is right in there, too - he gave GFA-W(16) a REAL *.gif
>reader!
>>
>+++ John Findlay! John Findlay! John Findlay! John Findlay! John Findlay!
>John Findlay!
> John Findlay! John Findlay! John Findlay! John Findlay! John Findlay! John
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>
>Thanks for the correction. :-)
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>John
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List Member "John Findlay" <John.Findlay@Byte-it.net> wrote:

> List Member "Eberhard Funck" <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Now I hear nothing about this theme. Are all satisfied????
> Nobody works with this DLL and if anyone works with this DLL
> why we can not see his result!

No one can match your toolbars Eberhard! However, I've just added a routine
to make the buttons the correct colour.

 :-)

Regards,

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> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> The moment I saw it!!  Pills!

And age no doubt?

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Smartypants! <G>
*Still* feeling the effects!

At 03:12 PM 02/02/00 -0000, you wrote:
>List Member "John Findlay" <John.Findlay@Byte-it.net> wrote:
>
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>> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> The moment I saw it!!  Pills!
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>And age no doubt?
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>John
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Hey, Boss!
I'm thinking that the challenge was seen & met, therefore it fell into
the classification of "not all grapes become wine... some just die &
fall off the vine".  I'm sorry it met this fate - it's a nice *.dll.

Myself, I've moved into the screensaver phase & have been trying to
determine the best image formats to use.  Everyone laughed at my
attempts to come up with a German/English translator & for the most
part, I can't blame them.  It isn't easy to make thought remain intact
& meaningfull when crossing the line from one language to another
unless you actually understand both languages fully.

Then, too - it seems that most have gone to GFA(32).
<G>
TomR.


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>
>Now I hear nothing about this theme. Are all satisfied????
>Nobody works with this DLL and if anyone works with this DLL
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>
>Greetings
>
>Eberhard
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Could that be the John Findlay that I like so well?

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> List Member "John Findlay" <John.Findlay@Byte-it.net> wrote:
> Tom,
>
> >John Lindsay is right in there, too - he gave GFA-W(16) a REAL *.gif
> reader!
> >
> +++ John Findlay! John Findlay! John Findlay! John Findlay! John Findlay!
> John Findlay!
>  John Findlay! John Findlay! John Findlay! John Findlay! John Findlay!
John
> Findlay!
>
> Thanks for the correction. :-)
>
> John
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:


--- Eberhard Funck <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de>
wrote:
> List Member "Eberhard Funck"
> <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de> wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> I remember me that it gives a time (last year), that
> for some weeks all
> GFABASIC-Letters are full of questions and other
> thinks about
> "OWNSUB.DLL" only.
> 
> Now I hear nothing about this theme. Are all
> satisfied????
> Nobody works with this DLL and if anyone works with
> this DLL
> why we can not see his result!
> 
> Greetings
> 
> Eberhard

Greets Eberhard, did you write it ?  :)
That's actually a pretty good sign, most people, if
they really like something, don't complain about it.

Initial impressions in new software are often
lasting ones, and you must carry the significant
praise and reward of accomplishment from the time
it was first made to the now.  If you did write it,
maybe everyone is waiting for you to add some new
great things to it so it is even more usable.  :)

There's nothing worse than a library of routines
someone makes that are not updated on a regular basis.

If you did write these, did you make the .DLL inside
GFABasic, and, if so, how did you do it, because I
don't know how to do that, and maybe some others
might like to know too so we can all contribute
unique libraries to share amongst ourselves !

Thanks !

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:


--- Tom Record
<tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Hey, Boss!
> I'm thinking that the challenge was seen & met,
> therefore it fell into
> the classification of "not all grapes become wine...
> some just die &
> fall off the vine".  I'm sorry it met this fate -
> it's a nice *.dll.
> 
> Myself, I've moved into the screensaver phase & have
> been trying to
> determine the best image formats to use.  Everyone
> laughed at my
> attempts to come up with a German/English translator
> & for the most
> part, I can't blame them.  It isn't easy to make
> thought remain intact
> & meaningfull when crossing the line from one
> language to another
> unless you actually understand both languages fully.
> 
> Then, too - it seems that most have gone to GFA(32).
> <G>
> TomR.

Greets Tom:

Does GFA32 have a better debugger than GFA16 ?
I kinna don't want to leave GFA16 because I had a
chance to see my Crystal Waves under Win3.1 in
both 16 color and 256 and it still came out quite
well !  Eventually I want to move all my gameboy
ROMs, huummm  !  off my laptop so I can put Win3.1
back on it and program in GFA16 on the go.

As far as language translations go.  The internet,
as you know is big.  So big, that chances are better
than 75% anything you want at all, no matter what
it is or how specific, has probably already been
written by someone somewhere on the internet,
somewhere in the world.

One of the better search engines I use is
http://www.altavista.com

You can enter stuff in its search string like:

+software +"language translation" +germany +english
+download

And you make a really good attempt at finding it !

I can see now my Swirl is kinna ... well, flickery
so I need to put in LockWindow on it. Okee !

But kudos to your and your fine work in making
screen savers !  Now, do you know how to make a true
.SCR file ?  That might be knowledge others of us
would like to know but don't already know.

Programming expertise: you have to give a little
to get a little.  :)

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
David, et.al.
>Programming expertise: you have to give a little
>to get a little.  :)
Define "little", please.  To give requires monumental, to get is miniscule.
>
>Now, do you know how to make a true
>.SCR file ?  That might be knowledge others of us
>would like to know but don't already know.
>
The first 3 lines in your source upon compile must be:
$DESCR SCRNSAVE: {a name you like - windows checks for this to put it in the
list}
$LNK Exe c:\windows\*.scr {full path & name to where you want it written}
$Name {the title that appears under the icon if installed}

You must, of course, trap all keyboard input & mouse movement, so it will
shut down & return the display to what was on it originally.  *This* goes
in your main loop.

GFA-W(16) will generate the saver as an *.exe, give it the extension "scr"
& write it in the windows dir.  I strongly suspect that even the *.exe made
by the interpretor (requires gfarun10.dll) will function UNLESS the 1st
line requirement can't be met.  Haven't tried this.

A screensaver can use internal "decoding" for images, external (*.dll), or
msvideo for codec-compressed images.  It can read an *.ini for the files,
or even write it's own playlist.  Turn your imagination loose.  In most
cases, the images do NOT have to be in the windows dir.

The internet is huge & one can find *somebody else's* work, for sure.  Does
_nothing_ for one's own pride, however.  I'm sure that a continued search for
an on-line translator will reveal some aimed at programmers, but...  There is
an infintesimal variety of words & phrases used that will escape even the best
of them.  I find that it takes a co-operative exercize in patience between 2
people - one for each language - to get a truly useable translator put together!

I gleened all I could from the net, used 4 programs, 1 electronic vocabulary
& 3 dictionaries to construct a 4M word/phrase vocabulary.  I still hear my
German cohorts swearing &/or laughing whenever I send something to them I have
translated.

TomR.



At 09:56 AM 02/02/00 -0800, you wrote:
>List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>--- Tom Record
><tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> List Member Tom Record
>> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> Hey, Boss!
>> I'm thinking that the challenge was seen & met,
>> therefore it fell into
>> the classification of "not all grapes become wine...
>> some just die &
>> fall off the vine".  I'm sorry it met this fate -
>> it's a nice *.dll.
>> 
>> Myself, I've moved into the screensaver phase & have
>> been trying to
>> determine the best image formats to use.  Everyone
>> laughed at my
>> attempts to come up with a German/English translator
>> & for the most
>> part, I can't blame them.  It isn't easy to make
>> thought remain intact
>> & meaningfull when crossing the line from one
>> language to another
>> unless you actually understand both languages fully.
>> 
>> Then, too - it seems that most have gone to GFA(32).
>> <G>
>> TomR.
>
>Greets Tom:
>
>Does GFA32 have a better debugger than GFA16 ?
>I kinna don't want to leave GFA16 because I had a
>chance to see my Crystal Waves under Win3.1 in
>both 16 color and 256 and it still came out quite
>well !  Eventually I want to move all my gameboy
>ROMs, huummm  !  off my laptop so I can put Win3.1
>back on it and program in GFA16 on the go.
>
>Programming expertise: you have to give a little
>to get a little.  :)
>
>Sincerely,
>David W.
>
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:


--- Tom Record
<tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> David, et.al.
> >Programming expertise: you have to give a little
> >to get a little.  :)
> Define "little", please.  To give requires
> monumental, to get is miniscule.
> >
> >Now, do you know how to make a true
> >.SCR file ?  That might be knowledge others of us
> >would like to know but don't already know.
> >
> The first 3 lines in your source upon compile must
> be:
> $DESCR SCRNSAVE: {a name you like - windows checks
> for this to put it in the
> list}
> $LNK Exe c:\windows\*.scr {full path & name to where
> you want it written}
> $Name {the title that appears under the icon if
> installed}
> 
> You must, of course, trap all keyboard input & mouse
> movement, so it will
> shut down & return the display to what was on it
> originally.  *This* goes
> in your main loop.
> 
> GFA-W(16) will generate the saver as an *.exe, give
> it the extension "scr"
> & write it in the windows dir.  I strongly suspect
> that even the *.exe made
> by the interpretor (requires gfarun10.dll) will
> function UNLESS the 1st
> line requirement can't be met.  Haven't tried this.
> 
> A screensaver can use internal "decoding" for
> images, external (*.dll), or
> msvideo for codec-compressed images.  It can read an
> *.ini for the files,
> or even write it's own playlist.  Turn your
> imagination loose.  In most
> cases, the images do NOT have to be in the windows
> dir.
> 
> The internet is huge & one can find *somebody
> else's* work, for sure.  Does
> _nothing_ for one's own pride, however.  I'm sure
> that a continued search for
> an on-line translator will reveal some aimed at
> programmers, but...  There is
> an infintesimal variety of words & phrases used that
> will escape even the best
> of them.  I find that it takes a co-operative
> exercize in patience between 2
> people - one for each language - to get a truly
> useable translator put together!
> 
> I gleened all I could from the net, used 4 programs,
> 1 electronic vocabulary
> & 3 dictionaries to construct a 4M word/phrase
> vocabulary.  I still hear my
> German cohorts swearing &/or laughing whenever I
> send something to them I have
> translated.
> 
> TomR.

The reason I am asking is because, for better than
4-5 years of my life, I was fighting lack of memory
and resources to write Scenario, a RPG Generator.
Well, with Demiforce getting slapped down by ASCII,
everyone and then some who knew anything about QBasic
were heart and hefty working away on their version,
which, ahhhm..  kind of made mine seem small.  :)

So..  I rewrite it in a different better language,
GFA, of course, what else could it be ?  :)

Thanks for the info on Screen Saver, I've filed it
away and when I finish this vector thingie for
everyone, I'll have a chance to sit down and maybe
turn Kaleidoscope into a true screen save instead of
just a teaser.

Oh, and if you're not too queasy from Swirl2, I've
put out Swirl3 with Russell's magic windowlock.
Hopefully it's good enough to get uploaded on
GFAHelp.

Sincerely,
David W.

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//********************************************
//  Written By Ophir Daniel
//     18 Ormonde Road
//     London SW14 7BG
//             UK
//   Tel: 0181 878 7475
//   Fax: 0181 241 5954
//
//*****MUST BE COMPILED***************
//--------------------------------------------------------------------------
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------------
'Anmerkungen von Roland Walter:
'Wenn sich der Saver unter Windows 95 sofort wieder beendet, dann ist das
kein Beinbruch - es
'liegt einfach daran, da=DF Windows 95 noch etliche WM_MOUSEMOVE-Messages
durch die Gegend
'schickt, wenn das Saver-Fenster bereits ge=F6ffnet ist (Z=E4hler=
 einbauen!).
'
'Die andere Sache ist, da=DF das Listing keine ScreenSaveProc-CB-Prozedur=
 enth=E4lt.
'Bitte also unbedingt testen, ob dieser Saver nicht nach jeder Zeitperiode
(alle 5min o.=E4.)
'neu gestartet wird. Sollte das der Fall sein: 24h * (60min/5min) =3D 288
Saver-Fenster pro Tag :-))))))))))
'Und alle =FCbereinander!
'(Ich habe die Sache aus Faulheit nicht getestet - es fiel mir nur so auf.)
//--------------------------------------------------------------------------
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------------
$DESCR SCRNSAVE: GFA-DEMO
//Very important
$LNK Exe c:\windows\gfa.scr
//The Compiled file should be in your windows directory
$Name GFA
//internal Name
string1$ =3D SPACE$(400) // ini string 1
string1$ =3D LEFT$(string1$,GetProfileString("GFA-SAVER","DEMOSTRING","GFA
DEMO",V:string1$,399))
//get string to move on screen from win.ini(if no string default GFA DEMO)
IF INSTR(UPPER$(_dosCmd$),"/C")//if /c in the command line then call
configuration
  @Config
ELSE
  @Main //call main screensaver routine
ENDIF
CLEAR //clear all
END  //End Program
PROCEDURE Main
  TITLEW #1,"Gfa Demo Screensaver" //you dont need the title but why not
  OPENW #1,0,0,_X,_Y,0 //open window
  CLS 0 //It is a screen Saver so it's Black
  FONT "Times New Roman" , WIDTH 25,HEIGHT 30 TO yfont&//create Times New
Roman font
  SETFONT yfont& //set Times New Roman font to our main window
  COLOR GETNEAREST(0,127,127),0 //set text color
  ~SetWindowPos(WIN(1),-1,0,0,0,0,SWP_NOMOVE | SWP_NOSIZE)
  //make main window first window in windows manager (very important in win
95 beacuse of task bar)
  HIDEM //hide mouse
  PEEKEVENT  //peek event before main loop (IMPORTANT)
  SETTIMER 1,1,2 //set timer event every 2ms
  DO   //main loop
    PEEKEVENT
    IF MENU(11) =3D WM_TIMER THEN @action //On timer event call saver action
procedure
    EXIT IF MENU(11) =3D WM_MOUSEMOVE//exit if mouse move
  LOOP UNTIL  MENU(1) =3D 1  OR MENU(4) > 0 OR MENU(1) =3D 4
  //loop until keyboard pressed or mouse key pressed or ALT+F4
  KILLTIMER 1,1 //kill timer event
  SHOWM //Show mouse
  CLOSEW #1//close main window
  FREEFONT yfont&//free Times New roman font
RETURN
PROCEDURE Config
  PROMPT "GFA SCREENSAVER DEMO","INPUT A STRING",string1$  //prompt for
string to save
  IF string1$ !=3D ""
    string1$ =3D string1$ + CHR$(0)//must add chr$(0) to strings for API=
 calls
    ~WriteProfileString("GFA-SAVER","DEMOSTRING",string1$)//save the string
in win.ini
  ENDIF
RETURN
PROCEDURE action
  //****************Here is Just an example for some saver Action
  x& ++
  y& ++
  TEXT x&,y&,string1$
  IF x& > _X THEN x& =3D 0
  IF y& >  _Y
    y& =3D 0
    CLS 0
  ENDIF
  //****************End Saver action***************************************
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>The reason I am asking is because, for better than
>4-5 years of my life, I was fighting lack of memory
>and resources to write Scenario, a RPG Generator.
>
+++ Ignorance showing, but... what is an RPG Generator?
>
>Well, with Demiforce getting slapped down by ASCII,
>
+++ Again, what is?
>
>everyone and then some who knew anything about QBasic
>were heart and hefty working away on their version,
>which, ahhhm..  kind of made mine seem small.  :)
>
>So..  I rewrite it in a different better language,
>GFA, of course, what else could it be ?  :)
>
>Thanks for the info on Screen Saver, I've filed it
>away and when I finish this vector thingie for
>everyone, I'll have a chance to sit down and maybe
>turn Kaleidoscope into a true screen save instead of
>just a teaser.
>
+++ Check Roland's site, look for "schooner" (a German term for schreensaver).
>
>Oh, and if you're not too queasy from Swirl2, I've
>put out Swirl3 with Russell's magic windowlock.
>
+++ One more time... windowlock?
>
>Hopefully it's good enough to get uploaded on
>GFAHelp.
>
+++ Send it to Dale.
>
>Sincerely,
>David W.
>

Terminalogy can be a bitch at times.

A hint on the screensavers... DO NOT HIDE THE MOUSE until you have
the whole thing working properly or you will have to reboot every time
something goes wrong.  Either REM that HIDEM line or just set the mouse
to some point on the edge.  A ton of experience is speaking to you now!

Another hint... the one I posted tonight says you have to compile it
but *.scrs will run by doubleclicking just like other *.exes.  That
one is pretty simple.  There are a ton of'em on Roland's site.  One
is kin to what you describe & has "Art" in it's name.

The point of a screensaver vs an *.exe... make it work first as an *.exe,
then go for the *.scr.  The main loop is critical, as is your section that
handles the action if it isn't inside the main loop.

Screensavers are fun, but also very nerve wracking until you get the hang
of things.  Some of GFA-W(16)'s ideosyncracies really show up when you
try to get a fast shutdown by mouse movement or keyboard activity.  Your
"get me the hell outa here" routine has to be a part of every other routine
or procedure in the damned things.  If it's only in the main loop, there is
a time delay before it kicks out.
<G>
TomR.

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Subject: [gfabasic] MEMDC
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Hi. Here Peter.

Thanks for help in 'How to use MEMDC'. The logical and fhysical screens =
work good, but I want something more. Now I use:

OPENW #1
GOSUB scr_log(1)
// Here I load BMP file. for e.g.
bmp&=3DLOADBMP("C:\WINDOWS\CLOUDS.BMP")
PUT 0,0,bmp&
FREEBMP bmp&
KEYGET a%
GOSUB scr_phys(1)
KEYGET a%
CLOSEW #1
'
'
PROCEDURE scr_log(hwnd&)
  NewDC& =3D MEMDC(_DC(hwnd&))=20
  BMP& =3D CREATEBMP(_X,_Y)
  Old& =3D SelectObject(NewDC&,BMP&)=20
  SETDC NewDC&=20
  '
  RGBCOLOR RGB(255,255,255)=20
  PBOX 0,0,_X,_Y  // Clear screen
RETURN
PROCEDURE scr_phys(hwnd&)
  BITBLT NewDC&,0,0,_X,_Y,_DC(hwnd&),0,0,SRCCOPY
  ' Memory free
  Old& =3D SelectObject(NewDC&,Old&)
  ~DeleteObject(Old&)
  FREEDC NewDC&
  '
  SETDC _DC(hwnd&)    // Set DC to visible
RETURN
'
'It's work good. First screen is set to invisible. Next I load bitmap =
file. Picture is invisible until I press a key. Now the picture is =
visible on the 'screen. But when I use it in DO LOOP loop, it doesn't =
work good. For e.g.

OPENW #1
'
DO
' Here I want draw sth. in logical (invisible) screen during when =
physical (visible) screen is visible. It's doesn't work, why?
GOSUB scr_log(1)

' I use two screens so that at animation flicker was not visible.

GOSUB scr_phys(1) // This screen should show this, what became drawn on =
logical screen.
'
LOOP UNTIL INKEY$<>""
'
CLOSEW #1
'

Please help me if you can.

My E-mail: 42810730@pro.onet.pl

Thanks. Peter.

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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" size=3D2>Hi. Here Peter.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" size=3D2>Thanks for help in 'How to use =
MEMDC'. The=20
logical and fhysical screens work good, but I want something more. Now I =

use:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" size=3D2>OPENW #1</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" size=3D2>GOSUB scr_log(1)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" size=3D2>// Here I load BMP file. for =
e.g.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE"=20
size=3D2>bmp&amp;=3DLOADBMP("C:\WINDOWS\CLOUDS.BMP")</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" size=3D2>PUT 0,0,bmp&amp;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" size=3D2>FREEBMP bmp&amp;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" size=3D2>KEYGET a%</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" size=3D2>GOSUB scr_phys(1)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" size=3D2>KEYGET a%</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" size=3D2>CLOSEW #1</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" size=3D2>'</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" size=3D2>'</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" size=3D2>PROCEDURE =
scr_log(hwnd&amp;)<BR>&nbsp;=20
NewDC&amp; =3D MEMDC(_DC(hwnd&amp;))&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" size=3D2>&nbsp; BMP&amp; =3D=20
CREATEBMP(_X,_Y)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" size=3D2>&nbsp; Old&amp; =3D=20
SelectObject(NewDC&amp;,BMP&amp;)&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" size=3D2>&nbsp; SETDC =
NewDC&amp;&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" size=3D2>&nbsp; '<BR>&nbsp; RGBCOLOR=20
RGB(255,255,255)&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" size=3D2>&nbsp; PBOX 0,0,_X,_Y&nbsp; =
//&nbsp;Clear=20
screen<BR>RETURN<BR>PROCEDURE scr_phys(hwnd&amp;)<BR>&nbsp; BITBLT=20
NewDC&amp;,0,0,_X,_Y,_DC(hwnd&amp;),0,0,SRCCOPY</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" size=3D2>&nbsp; '&nbsp;Memory =
free</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" size=3D2>&nbsp; Old&amp; =3D=20
SelectObject(NewDC&amp;,Old&amp;)<BR>&nbsp; =
~DeleteObject(Old&amp;)<BR>&nbsp;=20
FREEDC NewDC&amp;<BR>&nbsp; '</FONT><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" =
size=3D2></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" size=3D2>&nbsp; SETDC =
_DC(hwnd&amp;)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
// Set DC to visible</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" size=3D2>RETURN</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" size=3D2>'</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" size=3D2>'It's&nbsp;work good. First screen =
is set to=20
invisible. Next I load bitmap file. Picture is invisible until I press a =
key.=20
Now the picture is visible on the 'screen. But when I use it in DO LOOP =
loop, it=20
doesn't work good. For e.g.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" size=3D2>OPENW #1</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" size=3D2>'</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" size=3D2>DO</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" size=3D2>' Here I want draw sth. in logical =
(invisible)=20
screen during when physical (visible) screen is visible. It's doesn't =
work,=20
why?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" size=3D2><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" =
size=3D2>GOSUB=20
scr_log(1)</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" size=3D2>'&nbsp;I use two screens so that =
at animation=20
flicker was not visible.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" size=3D2><FONT face=3D"Arial CE"=20
size=3D2></FONT></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" size=3D2><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" =
size=3D2>GOSUB scr_phys(1)=20
// This screen should show this, what became drawn on logical=20
screen.</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" size=3D2>'</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" size=3D2>LOOP UNTIL =
INKEY$&lt;&gt;""</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" size=3D2>'</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" size=3D2>CLOSEW #1</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" size=3D2>'</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" size=3D2>Please help me if you =
can.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" size=3D2>My E-mail: <A=20
href=3D"mailto:42810730@pro.onet.pl">42810730@pro.onet.pl</A></FONT></DIV=
>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" size=3D2>Thanks. =
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List Member Vogel Michael <vo@schoeller.at> wrote:

You don't need a special GFA-code, when the graphic driver of the millenium
is set to TrueColor (with High Color you get "clean" black dots) , it just
happens...

COLOR 0
OPENW #1,0,0,99,99,0
FOR i& = 0 TO 99
  ~SetPixel(_DC(1),RAND(99),RAND(99),RGB(0,0,0))
  // or...
  // PLOT RAND(99),RAND(99)
NEXT i&
KEYGET a%
CLOSEW #1


> ----------
> Von: 	David Wicker[SMTP:dw817@yahoo.com]
> Gesendet: 	Di, 01. Feb 2000 15:34
> An: 	gfabasic@gfa.net
> Betreff: 	Re: [gfabasic] SetPixel Problem...
> 
> List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> --- Vogel Michael <vo@schoeller.at> wrote:
> > List Member Vogel Michael <vo@schoeller.at> wrote:
> > Hi, 
> > 
> > if I am using DRAW x&,y& (or even ~SetPixel...) on
> > certain Videodrivers
> > (Matrox Millenium, TrueColor) for setting a black
> > dot, not even this dot
> > appears but also a yellow one beside the black one,
> > like a shadow. I've
> > never seen this effect with any other program
> > (painting programs, etc.), so
> > I don't think, the API or the video drivers are the
> > (only) reason for that
> > problem. Who can help ????
> > 
> > Michael
> 
> Greets Michael !  Hey, it's nice to see some people
> working on graphics !  :)  Okay, I don't know if this
> is related, but some monitors display pixels you
> didn't ask for because they actually cannot plot
> that many colors.  A good example is from a pretty
> outdated computer I used to work on, Commodore Amiga.
> It has what is called HAM graphics.  Which means
> Hold And Modify.  You could change the:
> Red/Green, Red/Blue, or Green/Blue elements, but not
> all 3 at one time.  It's possible that stray pixel
> that's appearing could be related to this.
> 
> Then again, it could be that GFABasic is
> misinterpreting the graphic driver your Windows is
> using.  I have heard that DirectX is the way to go
> but I haven't seen the benefits of it completely
> myself yet.  ~SETPIXEL should work.  Can you send
> a small example program ?  And maybe we could all
> try it out to see if we get similar results ?
> 
> Sincerely,
> David W.
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Here Peter.

I use MEMDC. It will be my new game about ball. Now I've new problem. =
After run my programm in left corner of the screen is little brown box. =
On the screen are six balls: one big and five small. Problem is in big =
ball when you touch the box. If ball velocity is little all is Ok, but =
when the ball velocity is big and you touch the box, ball will be inside =
box or not jump from it.

I send you all data files to programm without the background file. I =
think that you have it. If you may please check this programm and help =
me.

Peter.

E-mail:  42810730@pro.onet.pl

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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" size=3D2>I use MEMDC. It will be my new =
game about=20
ball. Now I've new problem. After run my programm in left corner of the =
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I wrote good programm to MEMDC. It's work super.

42810730@pro.onet.pl

Peter.

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:


--- Tom Record
<tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> >The reason I am asking is because, for better than
> >4-5 years of my life, I was fighting lack of memory
> >and resources to write Scenario, a RPG Generator.
> >
> +++ Ignorance showing, but... what is an RPG
> Generator?

Role-Playing Game Generator, they allow you to build
entire worlds with thousands of people in them,
subquests, music, story, romance, adventure, danger,
(Yes, I really do like these things).  They are also
about the most ambitious and difficult projects anyone
can ever undertake on the computer.  :)  There are
about 10 out throughout the entire world that bear
any mentioning.

RPG95 from ASCII is, quite obviously, the best,
but it is a bit cumbersome at times, and way too
mouse dependent for me.

DCGame modeled their's after the popular Ultima Series
from Origin Systems (which I despise)  The combat is
way too much tactical, and not enough enjoyable simple
exploration of the world.

Scenario, hey that's me !  :)  I've been working on
Scenario on so many computers to list, ran out of
memory so many times, core space, source code space,
you name it.  I'm here for the Ride because it looks
like GFA just might handle the task I need it to
undertake.
> >
> >Well, with Demiforce getting slapped down by ASCII,
> >
> +++ Again, what is?

Demiforce is a hot team from Switzerland who makes it
their goal to translate the very best Japanese
software
products into English.  Amongst these were RPG2E,
a Super Nintendo (or Famicon as it is called in Japan)
cartridge that allows you to make RPGs.  In my
personal
opinion, RPG2E is the best RPG generator today period,
which is unfortunate because it requires me to run
a Super Nintendo Emulator and, even then, the
cartridge is about 45% translated.  

Demiforce had ASCII pound down their door and yank
them into court.  ASCII said that their RPG Generators
were not made for the American market, period.
It was only for the Japanese.  Huuum !!  :)  Where
does
that leave us ?  Well, aside from some bootleg
copies running around, there's not much left.
So everybody and their grandmother decided to
plunk into QBasic and start to write their own RPG
Generator completely unaware that I had been so in
the same programming language and for better than 3
years.  It was kinna discouraging when I entered QB
chat for the first time, told what I was writing and
someone blinked mildly and asked:

"Have you been living under a rock all these years?"

"Yes!"  was my very firm answer.

"Oh, well in that case check out : http://www. .. . 
(and it had the word QBasic and RPG Generator in it!!)

Geesh!!  Who woulda thought there was so much interest
in RPG Generators !  Ah well...

Russell Hayward was kind enough to say I wrote good
software (Thanks!) :) and introduced me to the
wonderful world of GFA.  I have to admit it was a
shaky bumpy ride to begin with, but now since I'm
building the roller coaster and theme park to put it
in, I feel much more at home in it.

> >
> >everyone and then some who knew anything about
> QBasic
> >were heart and hefty working away on their version,
> >which, ahhhm..  kind of made mine seem small.  :)
> >
> >So..  I rewrite it in a different better language,
> >GFA, of course, what else could it be ?  :)
> >
> >Thanks for the info on Screen Saver, I've filed it
> >away and when I finish this vector thingie for
> >everyone, I'll have a chance to sit down and maybe
> >turn Kaleidoscope into a true screen save instead
> of
> >just a teaser.
> >
> +++ Check Roland's site, look for "schooner" (a
> German term for schreensaver).
> >
> >Oh, and if you're not too queasy from Swirl2, I've
> >put out Swirl3 with Russell's magic windowlock.
> >
> +++ One more time... windowlock?

Windowlock is why I'm here !  I admit, I might have
stayed around working on Vector but I'd be quibbling
all the way.  :)  Windowlock which to every package
I put out I will credit Russell Hayward for his
DCTEST program.  In it, it very simply had a little
bouncing ball.  The window could be cropped, scaled,
rotated, minimized, maximized, (and I daresay you
could even wash it with soapy water) and it always
came out squeaky clean !  In it, making use of
BITBlitz, you could write forever and a decade to
a hidden page and transfer it, just like magic, into
your main display.  The advantage ?  Instant refresh,
ultimately your window is never lost, ever.  And
you get flicker-free graphics to boot !

> >
> >Hopefully it's good enough to get uploaded on
> >GFAHelp.
> >
> +++ Send it to Dale.

Dale should have it.  It's got Depth Bounce and
Hypnoblast now.  Really impressive.  There's a lot
of neat math deep inside PI and SIN/COS if you start
to convert the numbers to pictures.
> >
> >Sincerely,
> >David W.
> >
> 
> Terminalogy can be a bitch at times.
> 
> A hint on the screensavers... DO NOT HIDE THE MOUSE
> until you have
> the whole thing working properly or you will have to
> reboot every time
> something goes wrong.  Either REM that HIDEM line or
> just set the mouse
> to some point on the edge.  A ton of experience is
> speaking to you now!

No, that Hidemouse and Showmouse are pathetic.

IDEA FOR EVERYONE !

Is there a way to change the "image" of the mouse
pointer ?  Not only could you have a jeweled sword
as your pointer, but a girl's sexy hand, a rusty
spoon, and never underestimate the power of a
black cat's pointed tail !  :)  In this, you could
=ALSO= make it BLANK.  That Hidemouse and Showmouse
never work right, I will =NEVER= use them again and
wait to learn how to change the image of the pointer
itself.  I'd like to have a neat pointer for my
PKUNZIPPER too once it's done.

> 
> Another hint... the one I posted tonight says you
> have to compile it
> but *.scrs will run by doubleclicking just like
> other *.exes.  That
> one is pretty simple.  There are a ton of'em on
> Roland's site.  One
> is kin to what you describe & has "Art" in it's
> name.
> 
> The point of a screensaver vs an *.exe... make it
> work first as an *.exe,
> then go for the *.scr.  The main loop is critical,
> as is your section that
> handles the action if it isn't inside the main loop.
> 
> Screensavers are fun, but also very nerve wracking
> until you get the hang
> of things.  Some of GFA-W(16)'s ideosyncracies
> really show up when you
> try to get a fast shutdown by mouse movement or
> keyboard activity.  Your
> "get me the hell outa here" routine has to be a part
> of every other routine
> or procedure in the damned things.  If it's only in
> the main loop, there is
> a time delay before it kicks out.
> <G>
> TomR.

Humm..  That's a lot of stuff for a ScreenSaver !
I very rarely use them, relying on my Kaleidoscope
icon from the desktop, and besides, Screen-Savers
can't be activated automatically.  There have been
many a time I wish I could just drag my pointer to
the top-left hand-corner, have it there for 1 sec,
and auto-screen saver kicks in.  Noo, I have to
either Testplay it or wait it out.

I supposed Swirl3 could be a screen-teaser of
sorts too, but I haven't watched it closely enough
to see if PI repeats itself somewhere inside.

Sincerely,
David W.
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:


--- Micha=B3_Sejfried <42810730@pro.onet.pl> wrote:
> I wrote good programm to MEMDC. It's work super.
>=20
> 42810730@pro.onet.pl
>=20
> Peter.
>=20

Greets Peter:

Someone needs to introduce you to the wonderful
world of PKZip with the candy-coated center.  :)

It's too much to download 6 different files all in
one message.  If you're not familiar with it, PKZIP
crunches and compacts all of those files into a nice
neat .ZIP file which is ready for upload on the net.

Regarding your program.  I get garbage on my
screen.  Always clear your virtual page to black:

DEFFILL 0
PBOX 0,0,_X,_Y

That will do it.
Hope This Helps !

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>
>No, that Hidemouse and Showmouse are pathetic.
>
+++ Ya gotta do something with it that can be easily reversed on shutdown.
>
>IDEA FOR EVERYONE !
>
>Is there a way to change the "image" of the mouse
>pointer ?  Not only could you have a jeweled sword
>as your pointer, but a girl's sexy hand, a rusty
>spoon, and never underestimate the power of a
>black cat's pointed tail !  :)  In this, you could
>=3DALSO=3D make it BLANK.  That Hidemouse and Showmouse
>never work right, I will =3DNEVER=3D use them again and
>wait to learn how to change the image of the pointer
>itself.  I'd like to have a neat pointer for my
>PKUNZIPPER too once it's done.
>
+++ Gotta hunt.  You can change the courser image (*.cur) any time you wish.
Sorry, but I've only tinkered with this a little, getting a dropper for a
cursor in an image editor to sample a pisel's color.
>
>
>Humm..  That's a lot of stuff for a ScreenSaver !
>I very rarely use them, relying on my Kaleidoscope
>icon from the desktop, and besides, Screen-Savers
>can't be activated automatically.  There have been
>many a time I wish I could just drag my pointer to
>the top-left hand-corner, have it there for 1 sec,
>and auto-screen saver kicks in.  Noo, I have to
>either Testplay it or wait it out.
>
>I supposed Swirl3 could be a screen-teaser of
>sorts too, but I haven't watched it closely enough
>to see if PI repeats itself somewhere inside.
>
>Sincerely,
>David W.
>

If you set up a TSR to watch, for example, the top left 3 or 4 pixel
square, it can trigger anything you wish.  It can be "mouseover", a
left-click, a right-click, "mouseup", mousedown", whatever.

I don't think it even has to be a TSR - I *think* a tiny *.exe that is
run from autoexec.bat will accomplish the same thing.  A TSR is neater
because it terminates & stays resident, ever watchfull & taking very
little memory.  I haven't seen anything on TSRs in the 2 yrs I've been
working w/ GFA_W(16).

For the benefit of W95/W98, I'd stay out of the bottom of the screen
completely.

Something you *may* find intersting or perhaps extremely dumb... I don't
run explorer.exe as my shell... I run progman.exe & therefore, I work out
of filemanager all of the time.  Old Win31 holdout <G>.  I hate W95.  I
have almost all advantages of W95 but long filenames.

Here are some goodies you might like to see:
// MouseCursor Simulation
// Eckhard Renner   1997
// email : e.renner@mail.dortmund.netsurf.de
// Web     http://www.dortmund.netsurf.de/~erenner
// *******************************************
FULLW #1
backgnd& =3D LOADBMP("c:\windows\setup.bmp")
// irgendein Hintergrund
@load_ico
PUT 0,0,backgnd&  // Hintergrund darstellen
GET 99,67,132,100,sec&  // Bereich sichern wo Icon gesetzt
PUT 100,100,ico&    // Icon setzen
~SetCursorPos(100,100)  // MausCursor auf linke Ecke setzen
pos$ =3D SPACE$(10)
old_pos$ =3D pos$
~GetCursorPos(V:old_pos$)
HIDEM
DO
  @pointer_pos
UNTIL MOUSEK =3D 2
SHOWM
FREEBMP ico&             // alles freigeben
FREEBMP pointer&
FREEBMP sec&
FREEBMP backgnd&
CLOSEW #1
END


PROCEDURE pointer_pos
  ~GetCursorPos(V:pos$)
  IF pos$ <> old_pos$ THEN
    PUT DPEEK(V:old_pos$),DPEEK(V:old_pos$ + 2),sec&
    FREEBMP sec& // wichtig , sonst laeuft Speicher voll
    GET DPEEK(V:pos$),DPEEK(V:pos$ + 2),DPEEK(V:pos$) + 32,DPEEK(V:pos$ + 2)
+ 32,sec&
    PUT DPEEK(V:pos$),DPEEK(V:pos$ + 2),ico&
  ENDIF
  old_pos$ =3D pos$
RETURN

PROCEDURE load_ico
  DIM r&(16),g&(16),b&(16),d&(16) // Array fuer Farbtabelle
  FILESELECT "e:\gfawin\icon\*.*","",f$ // wo sind Icon
  OPEN "i",#1,f$
  ico$ =3D INPUT$(LOF( #1),#1)
  CLOSE #1
  ii =3D 0
  // Farben einlesen
  // 4byte fuer eine Farbe
  //  Farbfolge =3D blau--gruen--rot--dummy
  FOR i =3D 62 TO 125 STEP 4
    b&(ii) =3D PEEK(V:ico$ + i)
    g&(ii) =3D PEEK(V:ico$ + i + 1)
    r&(ii) =3D PEEK(V:ico$ + i + 2)
    d&(ii) =3D PEEK(V:ico$ + i + 3)
    ii ++
  NEXT i
  p =3D 0
  y =3D 100 // y start festlegen
  //              Icon wird von unten nach oben aufgebaut
  FOR j =3D 0 TO 31 // Iconhoehe 32 pixel
    y =3D y - 1 // y decrementieren , icon von unten aufbauen
    x =3D 100  // x start festlegen
    FOR i =3D 0 TO 15  //  je 2 pixel  , Iconbreite also 32 pixel
      p$ =3D BIN$(PEEK(V:ico$ + 126 + p))
      p ++
      IF LEN(p$) < 8 THEN
        // auf 8 Zeichen auffuellen
        p$ =3D STRING$(8 - LEN(p$),"0") + p$
      ENDIF
      // 2 Pixel in einem byte
      // moeglich , da nur max 16 Farben erlaubt
      // kann man eleganter loesen
      // funktioniert aber
      p1 =3D VAL(MID$(p$,8,1)) + VAL(MID$(p$,7,1)) * 2 + VAL(MID$(p$,6,1)) *=
 4
+ VAL(MID$(p$,5,1)) * 8
      p2 =3D VAL(MID$(p$,4,1)) + VAL(MID$(p$,3,1)) * 2 + VAL(MID$(p$,2,1)) *=
 4
+ VAL(MID$(p$,1,1)) * 8
      // p1 und p2 enthalten farbwert fuer pixel
      // entsprechend eingelesener Farbtabelle
      RGBCOLOR RGB(r&( p2),g&(p2),b&(p2)) // Farbe zuweisen
      PLOT x,y
// Punkt setzen
      RGBCOLOR RGB(r&(p1),g&(p1),b&(p1))  // Farbe zuweisen
      PLOT x + 1, y                                                      //
Punkt setzen
      x =3D x + 2 // 2 x pixel weiter , da 2pixel in einem byte
    NEXT i
  NEXT j
  GET 100,68,129,97,ico&
  ERASE r&(),g&(),b&(),d&()
RETURN

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
//
// Einen eigenen Mauszeiger definieren...
// Das Verfahren l=E4uft eigentlich wie beim GFA-BASIC f=FCr ATARI ST:
// Zwei Planes (AND-Maske und XOR-Maske) werden =FCbereinandergelegt
// und dann noch den HotSpot definieren, fertig. Zur Vereinfachung
// benutzen wir eine Windows-Struktur, um auf das MKI$-Gem=FCse
// wie beim ATARI =FCblich zu verzichten.
// Der Cursor besteht f=FCr jede Plane aus 8 x 16 Bytes
//
// FREE 1997 JoeHurst@AOL.COM
//

TYPE tagMouseCursor:
- WORD xHotSpot                 //   2 Bytes (0-65355), aber nur 0-15=
 g=FCltig?
- WORD yHotSpot                 //   2 Bytes (0-65355), aber nur 0-15=
 g=FCltig?
- CHAR(128) AndPlane$           // 128 Bytes =3D 8 x 16
- CHAR(128) XorPlane$           // 128 Bytes =3D 8 x 16
ENDTYPE
tagMouseCursor:MeineMaus.

OPENW #1
GOSUB DefMouse()
DO
  SLEEP
UNTIL MENU(1) =3D 4
//
DEFMOUSE 0              // nicht vergessen!
//
CLOSEW #1
//
PROCEDURE DefMouse()
  LOCAL i%,a$
  LOCAL a1|,a2|,a3|,a4|

  MeineMaus.xHotSpot =3D 1
  MeineMaus.yHotSpot =3D 1
  // =FCber a$ konstruieren, da=
 MeineMaus.AndPlane$=3DMeineMaus.AndPlane$+CHR$()
nicht funktioniert
  FOR i% =3D 0 TO 63
    READ a1|,a2|,a3|,a4|
    a$ =3D a$ + CHR$(a4|,a3|,a2|,a1|)             // (HI LO)(HI LO)=3D32=
 Bits je
4 Bytes
  NEXT i%
  MeineMaus.AndPlane$ =3D MID$(a$,  1,128)
  MeineMaus.XorPlane$ =3D MID$(a$,129,128)

  DEFMOUSE V:MeineMaus.

  // Maske f=FCr AND (Vordergrund, echt tolle Geometrie)
  DATA $ff, $ff, $00, $00, $ff, $ff, $00, $00
  DATA $ff, $ff, $00, $00, $ff, $ff, $00, $00
  DATA $ff, $ff, $00, $00, $ff, $ff, $00, $00
  DATA $ff, $ff, $00, $00, $ff, $ff, $00, $00
  DATA $00, $00, $ff, $ff, $00, $00, $ff, $ff
  DATA $00, $00, $ff, $ff, $00, $00, $ff, $ff
  DATA $00, $00, $ff, $ff, $00, $00, $ff, $ff
  DATA $00, $00, $ff, $ff, $00, $00, $ff, $ff
  DATA $ff, $ff, $00, $00, $ff, $ff, $00, $00
  DATA $ff, $ff, $00, $00, $ff, $ff, $00, $00
  DATA $ff, $ff, $00, $00, $ff, $ff, $00, $00
  DATA $ff, $ff, $00, $00, $ff, $ff, $00, $00
  DATA $00, $00, $ff, $ff, $00, $00, $ff, $ff
  DATA $00, $00, $ff, $ff, $00, $00, $ff, $ff
  DATA $00, $00, $ff, $ff, $00, $00, $ff, $ff
  DATA $00, $00, $ff, $ff, $00, $00, $ff, $ff

  // Maske f=FCr XOR (Hintergrund, hier was ganz einfaches)
  DATA $00, $00, $00, $00, $00, $00, $00, $00
  DATA $00, $00, $00, $00, $00, $00, $00, $00
  DATA $00, $00, $00, $00, $00, $00, $00, $00
  DATA $00, $00, $00, $00, $00, $00, $00, $00
  DATA $00, $00, $00, $00, $00, $00, $00, $00
  DATA $00, $00, $00, $00, $00, $00, $00, $00
  DATA $00, $00, $00, $00, $00, $00, $00, $00
  DATA $00, $00, $00, $00, $00, $00, $00, $00
  DATA $00, $00, $00, $00, $00, $00, $00, $00
  DATA $00, $00, $00, $00, $00, $00, $00, $00
  DATA $00, $00, $00, $00, $00, $00, $00, $00
  DATA $00, $00, $00, $00, $00, $00, $00, $00
  DATA $00, $00, $00, $00, $00, $00, $00, $00
  DATA $00, $00, $00, $00, $00, $00, $00, $00
  DATA $00, $00, $00, $00, $00, $00, $00, $00
  DATA $00, $00, $00, $00, $00, $00, $00, $00
  //
RETURN
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
//
// Maus-Cursor aus Datei Laden, dies sind NICHT die Windows-CUR-Dateien!!!
// Funktioniert aber mit den Cursor-Formen, die ansonsten =FCber die
kommerzielle (!)
// CUR_ICO.DLL geladen werden m=FC=DFten
// (Aufbau eines Mauscursors: siehe MOUSE_1.GFW)
// FREE 1997 JoeHurst@AOL.COM
OPENW #1
cursor$=3DFN LoadMouse$("D:\TEMP\SIZE.CUR")
IF cursor$<>"" THEN DEFMOUSE V:cursor$
DO
  SLEEP
UNTIL MENU(1) =3D 4
DEFMOUSE 0
CLOSEW #1
END

FUNCTION LoadMouse$(a$)
  LOCAL a1$,a2$
  TRY
    a1$=3D""
    IF EXIST(a$) THEN
      CLOSE #1
      OPEN "I",#1,a$
      a1$ =3D INPUT$( 70,#1)      // Header
      a2$ =3D INPUT$(256,#1)      // AND und XOR Maske
      CLOSE #1
      RETURN MID$(a1$,11,4) + MIRROR$(a2$)      // X und Y-Hotspot und Maske
    ELSE
      RETURN ""
    ENDIF
  CATCH
  RETURN ""
ENDFUNC

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
'=3D>>MOVEIT1.ARJ  Bewegen von Bitmaps, ohne den Hintergrund zu zerst=F6ren

OPENW #1,0,0,0,0,0
FULLW #1
trnsCol%=3D0 //RGB(255,0,0)
w&=3D61,h&=3D121
RGBCOLOR 0
PBOX 0,0,61,121
RGBCOLOR RGB(255,0,0)   //Flicker more four VGA or SVGA
//RGBCOLOR RGB(128,0,0)   //Flicker less four VGA or SVGA
PCIRCLE 30,30,28
PCIRCLE 30,90,28
RGBCOLOR 0
//these two lines
//PCIRCLE 30,30,20
//PCIRCLE 30,90,20
//or for a different look these four
FOR i&=3D1 TO 27
  CIRCLE 30,30,i&
  IF EVEN(i&) THEN CIRCLE 30,90,i&
NEXT i&
//If this give you more flicker, this is because
//windows does bitblt the bits planewise,
//so in between each of the planes there is possible flicker
//This schould be less visible, the faster your
//graphics are. very fast graphics should allow the
//only two bitblt version of the display loop down.
//
//you can disable some of this flicker, just by
//checking for an unmoved mouse.
//
//another way is trying to keep most of the bits
//for the background the same as for the red circles
//
RGBCOLOR RGB(0,255,0)
PCIRCLE 50,60,8
PCIRCLE 10,60,8
RGBCOLOR RGB(0,0,255)
PELLIPSE 30,60,6,30
RGBCOLOR 0
PELLIPSE 30,60,4,27
PCIRCLE 50,60,4
PCIRCLE 10,60,4
GET 0,0,60,120,hBMP&
hMDC&=3DMEMDC(_DC(1))
hMONO&=3DCreateBitmap(w&,h&,1,1,0)
hNULL&=3DSelectObject(hMDC&,hMONO&)
hDC2&=3DMEMDC(_DC(1))
~SelectObject(hDC2&,hBMP&)
~SetBkColor(hDC2&,0) //RGB(-1,-1,-1))
~BitBlt(hMDC&,0,0,w&,h&,hDC2&,0,0,NOTSRCCOPY)
FOR i&=3D0 TO _X
  COLOR (i& >> 5) & 15
  LINE i&,0,i&,_Y
NEXT i&
hBACK&=3DLOADBMP("e:\windows\ad_scn1.bmp")
IF !hBACK& THEN GET 0,0,_X,_Y,hBACK&
PUT 0,0,hBACK&
hWRK&=3DCREATEBMP(w&,h&)
hWDC&=3DMEMDC(_DC(1))
SETBMP hWDC&,hWRK&
hXDC&=3DMEMDC(_DC(1))
SETBMP hXDC&,hBACK&
hWRK2&=3DCREATEBMP(w&*2,h&*2)
hWDC2&=3DMEMDC(_DC(1))
SETBMP hWDC2&,hWRK2&
//
// Now:  (dc   bmp)
//      hBDC&,hBACK&    BackGround
//      hWDC&,hWRK&     Temporary, working
//      hWDC2&,hWRK2&   Temporary, Twice as big
//      _DC(1)          Display
//      hMDC&,hMONO&    Mask
//      hDC2&,hBMP&     Picture to be moved
//           ,hNULL&    EmptyBitmap for FREEDCs


DO
  MOUSE x&,y&,k&
  x&-=3D30,y&-=3D60
  IF x& <> xx& || y& <> yy&
    ~BitBlt(hWDC&,0,0,w&,h&,hXDC&,x&,y&,SRCCOPY)
    ~SetTextColor(hWDC&,$ffffff)
    ~SetBkColor(hWDC&,0)
    ~BitBlt(hWDC&,0,0,w&,h&,hMDC&,0,0,SRCAND)
    ~BitBlt(hWDC&,0,0,w&,h&,hDC2&,0,0,SRCPAINT)


    // now: in hWDC& correctly masked bitmap
    // the following is an extra routine to save some flicker:
    // if the rerstored bitmap
    // these two lines restore the old background ...
    // ~BitBlt(_DC(1),xx&,yy&,w&,h&,hXDC&,xx&,yy&,SRCCOPY)
    //... and then set the new bitmap
    // ~BitBlt(_DC(1), x&, y&,w&,h&,hWDC&,  0,  0,SRCCOPY)
    //
    // The four ifs just checks, if the "Object" is moved by less
    // than it's size. If there's no overlapping, (No1:) than the
    // new Object is painted and the old background restored
    //
    // If there is an overlap, the bounding rectangle (ox,oy,ww,hh)
    // is calculated and then (with BitBlt) a bigger portion of the
    // off screen bitmap is used together with the Object to enable
    // screen update with only one BitBlt

    // It wolud be somewhat faster to first calculate the intersection,
    // before doing the above BitBlts. This saves some time.


    ox& =3D x& + w&, oy& =3D y& + h&, ww& =3D xx& + w&, hh& =3D yy& + h&
    IF ox& < xx& THEN GOTO No1
    IF oy& < yy& THEN GOTO No1
    IF y&  > hh& THEN GOTO No1
    IF x&  < ww&
      IF xx& > x&
        ox& =3D x&,  ww& =3D w& + xx& - x&
      ELSE
        ox& =3D xx&, ww& =3D w& + x& - xx&
      ENDIF
      IF yy& > y&
        oy& =3D y&,  hh& =3D h& + yy& - y&
      ELSE
        oy& =3D yy&, hh& =3D h& + y& - yy&
      ENDIF
      ~BitBlt(hWDC2&,     0,     0,ww&,hh&,hXDC&, ox&,oy&,SRCCOPY)
      ~BitBlt(hWDC2&,x&-ox&,y&-oy&, w&, h&,hWDC&,   0,  0,SRCCOPY)
      ~BitBlt(_DC(1),   ox&,   oy&,ww&,hh&,hWDC2&,  0,  0,SRCCOPY)
    ELSE
      No1:
      ~BitBlt(_DC(1), x&, y&,w&,h&,hWDC&,  0,  0,SRCCOPY)
      ~BitBlt(_DC(1),xx&,yy&,w&,h&,hXDC&,xx&,yy&,SRCCOPY)
    ENDIF
    xx& =3D x&, yy& =3D y&
  ENDIF
LOOP UNTIL k&
IF hMDC&  THEN SETBMP hMDC&,hNULL&
IF hDC2&  THEN SETBMP hDC2&,hNULL&
IF hXDC&  THEN SETBMP hXDC&,hNULL&
IF hWDC&  THEN SETBMP hWDC&,hNULL&
IF hWDC2& THEN SETBMP hWDC2&,hNULL&
FREEDC  hMDC&
FREEDC  hDC2&
FREEDC  hXDC&
FREEDC  hWDC&
FREEDC  hWDC2&
FREEBMP hMONO&
FREEBMP hBMP&
FREEBMP hBACK&
FREEBMP hWRK&
FREEBMP hWRK2&


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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
New Downloads today

SWIRL3.ZIP by David Wicker - Mesmerizeing eye candy
CODEC.AIP by Roland Walter/Tom Record - you probably won't see this anywhere
else.
Dale

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:


--- Tom Record
<tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> >
> >No, that Hidemouse and Showmouse are pathetic.
> >
> +++ Ya gotta do something with it that can be easily
> reversed on shutdown.
> >
> >IDEA FOR EVERYONE !
> >
> >Is there a way to change the "image" of the mouse
> >pointer ?  Not only could you have a jeweled sword
> >as your pointer, but a girl's sexy hand, a rusty
> >spoon, and never underestimate the power of a
> >black cat's pointed tail !  :)  In this, you could
> >=3DALSO=3D make it BLANK.  That Hidemouse and Showmouse
> >never work right, I will =3DNEVER=3D use them again and
> >wait to learn how to change the image of the
> pointer
> >itself.  I'd like to have a neat pointer for my
> >PKUNZIPPER too once it's done.
> >
> +++ Gotta hunt.  You can change the courser image
> (*.cur) any time you wish.
> Sorry, but I've only tinkered with this a little,
> getting a dropper for a
> cursor in an image editor to sample a pisel's color.
> >
> >
> >Humm..  That's a lot of stuff for a ScreenSaver !
> >I very rarely use them, relying on my Kaleidoscope
> >icon from the desktop, and besides, Screen-Savers
> >can't be activated automatically.  There have been
> >many a time I wish I could just drag my pointer to
> >the top-left hand-corner, have it there for 1 sec,
> >and auto-screen saver kicks in.  Noo, I have to
> >either Testplay it or wait it out.
> >
> >I supposed Swirl3 could be a screen-teaser of
> >sorts too, but I haven't watched it closely enough
> >to see if PI repeats itself somewhere inside.
> >
> >Sincerely,
> >David W.
> >
>=20
> If you set up a TSR to watch, for example, the top
> left 3 or 4 pixel
> square, it can trigger anything you wish.  It can be
> "mouseover", a
> left-click, a right-click, "mouseup", mousedown",
> whatever.
>=20
> I don't think it even has to be a TSR - I *think* a
> tiny *.exe that is
> run from autoexec.bat will accomplish the same
> thing.  A TSR is neater
> because it terminates & stays resident, ever
> watchfull & taking very
> little memory.  I haven't seen anything on TSRs in
> the 2 yrs I've been
> working w/ GFA_W(16).
>=20
> For the benefit of W95/W98, I'd stay out of the
> bottom of the screen
> completely.
>=20
> Something you *may* find intersting or perhaps
> extremely dumb... I don't
> run explorer.exe as my shell... I run progman.exe &
> therefore, I work out
> of filemanager all of the time.  Old Win31 holdout
> <G>.  I hate W95.  I
> have almost all advantages of W95 but long
> filenames.
>=20
> Here are some goodies you might like to see:
> // MouseCursor Simulation
> // Eckhard Renner   1997
> // email : e.renner@mail.dortmund.netsurf.de
> // Web     http://www.dortmund.netsurf.de/~erenner
> // *******************************************
> FULLW #1
> backgnd& =3D LOADBMP("c:\windows\setup.bmp")
> // irgendein Hintergrund
> @load_ico
> PUT 0,0,backgnd&  // Hintergrund darstellen
> GET 99,67,132,100,sec&  // Bereich sichern wo Icon
> gesetzt
> PUT 100,100,ico&    // Icon setzen
> ~SetCursorPos(100,100)  // MausCursor auf linke Ecke
> setzen
> pos$ =3D SPACE$(10)
> old_pos$ =3D pos$
> ~GetCursorPos(V:old_pos$)

> HIDEM

* * * * *

 ^ I'm going to point my finger.  nonononoo..

* * * * *

This works sometimes and sometimes not, and I found
it even behaves differently when you run inside
GFABasic and as .EXE later.  It's too unpredictable.
Even if you read the state on when it is lit or not,
you can't STOP the state completely.


> DO
>   @pointer_pos
> UNTIL MOUSEK =3D 2
> SHOWM
> FREEBMP ico&             // alles freigeben
> FREEBMP pointer&
> FREEBMP sec&
> FREEBMP backgnd&
> CLOSEW #1
> END
>=20
>=20
> PROCEDURE pointer_pos
>   ~GetCursorPos(V:pos$)
>   IF pos$ <> old_pos$ THEN
>     PUT DPEEK(V:old_pos$),DPEEK(V:old_pos$ + 2),sec&
>     FREEBMP sec& // wichtig , sonst laeuft Speicher
> voll
>     GET DPEEK(V:pos$),DPEEK(V:pos$ +
> 2),DPEEK(V:pos$) + 32,DPEEK(V:pos$ + 2)
> + 32,sec&
>     PUT DPEEK(V:pos$),DPEEK(V:pos$ + 2),ico&
>   ENDIF
>   old_pos$ =3D pos$
> RETURN
>=20
> PROCEDURE load_ico
>   DIM r&(16),g&(16),b&(16),d&(16) // Array fuer
> Farbtabelle
>   FILESELECT "e:\gfawin\icon\*.*","",f$ // wo sind
> Icon
>   OPEN "i",#1,f$
>   ico$ =3D INPUT$(LOF( #1),#1)
>   CLOSE #1
>   ii =3D 0
>   // Farben einlesen
>   // 4byte fuer eine Farbe
>   //  Farbfolge =3D blau--gruen--rot--dummy
>   FOR i =3D 62 TO 125 STEP 4
>     b&(ii) =3D PEEK(V:ico$ + i)
>     g&(ii) =3D PEEK(V:ico$ + i + 1)
>     r&(ii) =3D PEEK(V:ico$ + i + 2)
>     d&(ii) =3D PEEK(V:ico$ + i + 3)
>     ii ++
>   NEXT i
>   p =3D 0
>   y =3D 100 // y start festlegen
>   //              Icon wird von unten nach oben
> aufgebaut
>   FOR j =3D 0 TO 31 // Iconhoehe 32 pixel
>     y =3D y - 1 // y decrementieren , icon von unten
> aufbauen
>     x =3D 100  // x start festlegen
>     FOR i =3D 0 TO 15  //  je 2 pixel  , Iconbreite
> also 32 pixel
>       p$ =3D BIN$(PEEK(V:ico$ + 126 + p))
>       p ++
>       IF LEN(p$) < 8 THEN
>         // auf 8 Zeichen auffuellen
>         p$ =3D STRING$(8 - LEN(p$),"0") + p$
>       ENDIF
>       // 2 Pixel in einem byte
>       // moeglich , da nur max 16 Farben erlaubt
>       // kann man eleganter loesen
>       // funktioniert aber
>       p1 =3D VAL(MID$(p$,8,1)) + VAL(MID$(p$,7,1)) * 2
> + VAL(MID$(p$,6,1)) * 4
> + VAL(MID$(p$,5,1)) * 8
>       p2 =3D VAL(MID$(p$,4,1)) + VAL(MID$(p$,3,1)) * 2
> + VAL(MID$(p$,2,1)) * 4
> + VAL(MID$(p$,1,1)) * 8
>       // p1 und p2 enthalten farbwert fuer pixel
>       // entsprechend eingelesener Farbtabelle
>       RGBCOLOR RGB(r&( p2),g&(p2),b&(p2)) // Farbe
> zuweisen
>       PLOT x,y
> // Punkt setzen
>       RGBCOLOR RGB(r&(p1),g&(p1),b&(p1))  // Farbe
> zuweisen
>       PLOT x + 1, y                                =20
>                     //
> Punkt setzen
>       x =3D x + 2 // 2 x pixel weiter , da 2pixel in
> einem byte
>     NEXT i
>   NEXT j
>   GET 100,68,129,97,ico&
>   ERASE r&(),g&(),b&(),d&()
> RETURN
>=20
>
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> //
> // Einen eigenen Mauszeiger definieren...
> // Das Verfahren l=E4uft eigentlich wie beim GFA-BASIC
> f=FCr ATARI ST:
> // Zwei Planes (AND-Maske und XOR-Maske) werden
> =FCbereinandergelegt
> // und dann noch den HotSpot definieren, fertig. Zur
> Vereinfachung
> // benutzen wir eine Windows-Struktur, um auf das
> MKI$-Gem=FCse
> // wie beim ATARI =FCblich zu verzichten.
> // Der Cursor besteht f=FCr jede Plane aus 8 x 16
> Bytes
> //
>=20

Message truncated, I didn't get the rest of it.
Dale was nice and sent me a PKZIP that reads in a .RES
file.  What's a .RES file ?  I'm still fighting
vector here.

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:

Dale Bryant
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----- Original Message -----
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> Message truncated, I didn't get the rest of it.
> Dale was nice and sent me a PKZIP that reads in a .RES
> file.  What's a .RES file ?  I'm still fighting
> vector here.
>
> Sincerely,
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Hi David,
A .RES file is a RESource file.
Many things can be stored in a .RES file
Menus.
Cursors,
Strings
String Tables
Bitmaps

and John Findlay can probably think of 10 more

About the most popular resource editor is Borlands Resource Workshop.
It comes with a lot of Borlands programs or maybe it might be purchased
separately.
I purchased my copy separately but had to call Borland to do so.





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> adbryant@gfa.net
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Wicker" <dw817@yahoo.com>
> To: <gfabasic@gfa.net>
> Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2000 2:44 PM
> Subject: Re: [gfabasic] screensavers, cursors, etc.
> > Message truncated, I didn't get the rest of it.
> > Dale was nice and sent me a PKZIP that reads in a .RES
> > file.  What's a .RES file ?  I'm still fighting
> > vector here.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > David W.
> >





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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Available separately, but on somebody else's website that bought Borland.
~$70US.  borland.com will get redirected to it.
<G>
TomR.


At 03:44 PM 03/02/00 -0800, you wrote:
>List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
>Hi David,
>A .RES file is a RESource file.
>Many things can be stored in a .RES file
>Menus.
>Cursors,
>Strings
>String Tables
>Bitmaps
>
>and John Findlay can probably think of 10 more
>
>About the most popular resource editor is Borlands Resource Workshop.
>It comes with a lot of Borlands programs or maybe it might be purchased
>separately.
>I purchased my copy separately but had to call Borland to do so.
>
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>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "David Wicker" <dw817@yahoo.com>
>> To: <gfabasic@gfa.net>
>> Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2000 2:44 PM
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>> > Message truncated, I didn't get the rest of it.
>> > Dale was nice and sent me a PKZIP that reads in a .RES
>> > file.  What's a .RES file ?  I'm still fighting
>> > vector here.
>> >
>> > Sincerely,
>> > David W.
>> >
>
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At 02:44 PM 03/02/00 -0800, you wrote:
>List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>
>Message truncated, I didn't get the rest of it.
>Dale was nice and sent me a PKZIP that reads in a .RES
>file.  What's a .RES file ?  I'm still fighting
>vector here.
>
>Sincerely,
>David W.
>

David
Sorry, I failed to keep in mind your e-mail goodie.  It evidently has a 15K-18K
limit on file size.  That was just 19K, & you sent most of it back.  This limit
isn't at all unusual w/ the freebie e-mailers.  Some still don't handle any 
attachments.

I'll resend the routines, one at a time or in a *.zip.

*.res... resource file that is included on compile.  Can contain bitmaps,
dialogs, string tables, icons, company/file info, etc.  Requires one of
the various resource editors to work with, like MS's apstudio.exe or Borland's
ResourceWorkShop.

Where do you stand on the vector bit?  I have *some* documentation that might
help.  Roland put out a routine that will read *.gif or *.jpg in, using a
couple of inputfilters & *.dlls.  It then handles the image in memory as a 
metafile instead of as a DIB.  I've been trying to merge that with Brent's
routine to write & display placeable *.wmf metafiles.
<G>
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List Member Dean Hodgson <dhodgson@nexus.edu.au> wrote:
Tom Record wrote:
>=20
> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wro=
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> //********************************************
> //  Written By Ophir Daniel
> //     18 Ormonde Road
> Saver-Fenster pro Tag :-))))))))))
> 'Und alle =FCbereinander!

Dear Tom & all,

I cannot get for the life of me this thing to work on my system. PIII-450=
 with Win98 &
lotsa memory. I get a quick "blink" when it runs but that's it. Tried loo=
king within the
loop at what Menu(1) was returning and it was ASCII 0's. I cannot find wh=
y it kicks out of
the loop. Brain is frazzled at the moment due to nasties at work so am no=
t good a problem
solving just now. Does it work for you? Any ideas?
=20
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Dean
Runs in my interpretor, runs compiled.  Compilation is not necessary.
P-100, Win95a.
Just before the main loop, try 2 or 3 PEEKEVENT entries.

IF INSTR(UPPER$(_dosCmd$),"/C")//if /c in the command line then call
configuration
  @Config
ELSE
PEEKEVENT /* <---
PEEKEVENT /* <---
  @Main //call main screensaver routine
ENDIF

If this doesn't work, let me know & I'll look for something else for you.
This is one of John's remedies I'd seen before but forgot about.
<G>
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>> //     18 Ormonde Road
>> Saver-Fenster pro Tag :-))))))))))
>> 'Und alle =FCbereinander!
>
>Dear Tom & all,
>
>I cannot get for the life of me this thing to work on my system. PIII-450
with Win98 &
>lotsa memory. I get a quick "blink" when it runs but that's it. Tried
looking within the
>loop at what Menu(1) was returning and it was ASCII 0's. I cannot find why
it kicks out of
>the loop. Brain is frazzled at the moment due to nasties at work so am not
good a problem
>solving just now. Does it work for you? Any ideas?
>=20
>---------------------------------------------------------------------------
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
If you program in GFA I would like to have you on the programmers biography
list on the GFAWHELP web site

1. Name- first/Last
2. City/Country
3. Main programming interest
4. Some personal facts if desired
5. Email address
6. Web page URL -if applicable
7. A photo in graphic format.

Join the programmers club!

Dale Bryant
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hello, it's the weekend and this time I can
actually spend a little time with my G/F.

No, it hasn't been so long I'd forgotten how to,
I'd just forgotten how good it feels.

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List Member Sven Kumlin <sven.kumlin@hem.utfors.se> wrote:
Hi Tom

The question is now how to write a new label to a disk?

Sven Kumlin

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> =
wrote:
''''  testbed.lst
d&  =3D _DRIVE
CHDIR "."
? " Start: ";d&;"  ";CHR$(d&)
home$ =3D DIR$(0) + "\"  //  home dir
'CHDIR CHR$(d&) + ":\"
CHDRIVE "a"
d1&  =3D _DRIVE
? " Go to: ";d1&;"  ";CHR$(d1&)
TITLEW #1, "TomR.'s Testbed Window"
OPENW #1, 0,0,300,200,48
PRINT
'
'
TYPE dta:
- CHAR*21  fs_donttouch$
- BYTE     fs_attr
- CARD     fs_time
- CARD     fs_date
- LONG     fs_size
- CHAR*14  fs_name$
ENDTYPE
dta% =3D FGETDTA()
e% =3D FSFIRST("*.*",8)       /* Volume
PRINT {dta%}.fs_name$       /* Volume name

mar% =3D INSTR({dta%}.fs_name$,".")
PRINT " Disk Volume Label (8+3 format): ";mar%
par1$ =3D LEFT$({dta%}.fs_name$,mar% - 1)
par2$ =3D RIGHT$({dta%}.fs_name$,LEN({dta%}.fs_name$) - mar%)
par$ =3D par1$ + par2$
PRINT " Disk Volume Label (ll char format): ";par$

PRINT  " Volume Date: ";STR$({dta%}.fs_date) /* Date
PRINT  " Volume Time: ";STR$({dta%}.fs_time)  /* Time
'
CHDRIVE d&
CHDIR home$
? " End up: ";d&;"  ";CHR$(d&)
?
PRINT "                     <any key> closes me."
KEYGET k%
CLOSEW #1
END




At 03:53 AM 27/01/00 -0500, you wrote:
>List Member "Lou Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
>Hi:
>
>I came across the following code in my files & thought it might answer =
all
>my questions about READ/WRITE SECTORS w/FAT32 but I can't even get it =
to
>work. btw, I tried changing the $13 code to $21, sub $7305 code & still
>nada.
>
>Also, I would like to be able to write a LABEL to a disk. Any help =
would be
>appreciated.
>
>Here's the code:
>
>From: Roland Walter <alibaba@zedat.fu-berlin.de>
>To: gfabasic@aachen.linux.de <gfabasic@aachen.linux.de>
>Subject: [GFA] Get volume label by Interrupt
>Date: October 6, 1998 1257 Bev
>
>* List: gfabasic@aachen.linux.de
>
>Here is an other way to get the volume label.
>I would say FGETDTA is better - but may there is
>anybody who don't hates interrupts  :-))))))
>
>
>'Get the volume label by using BIOS interrupt function ReadSector
>INTR($13,_AH=3D$02)
>' =A9 Roland Walter, Sch=F6nhauser Allee 64, D-10437 Berlin; October =
1998
>'More information see Ralf Brown's Interrupt list (you will find it in
>Internet)
>'
>Drive|=3D1  '1=3DA:, 2=3DB: (use for floppy only)
>~INTR($21,_AH=3D$30,_AL=3D$0) 'get DOS version
>IF _AL>6 THEN W95!=3DTRUE 'MS-DOS 7.0 (Windows 95) - we have to lock =
the
>volume before direct read/write
>IF W95!=3DTRUE
>  ~INTR($21,_AX=3D$440D,_CX=3D$084A,_BL=3DDrive|,_BH=3D0,_DX =3D%000) =
'level 0 volume
>lock to get only rights
>  ~INTR($21,_AX=3D$440D,_CX=3D$084A,_BL=3DDrive|,_BH=3D0,_DX =3D%100) =
'second level 0
>volume lock for formatting
>ENDIF
>Buffer$=3DSTRING$(512,0) 'receives the sector 0 (the boot sector)
>~INTR($13,_AH=3D$02,_DL=3DDrive|,_AL=3D1,_CH=3D0,_CL=3D0,_DH=3D0,_BX=3DL=
OWORD(V:Buffer$),_
>ES=3DHIWORD(V:Buffer$))
>IF W95!=3DTRUE
>  ~INTR($21,_AX =3D $440D,_CX=3D$086A,_BL=3DDrive|) 'decrease volume =
lock level
>  ~INTR($21,_AX =3D $440D,_CX=3D$086A,_BL=3DDrive|) 'unlock volume
>ENDIF
>'The volume label begins at byte 43 of the boot sector and has a size =
of 11
>characters (rest filled with spaces)
>'More information  list wich You can find in Internet (also as Windows =
help
>file)
>Label$=3DPEEK$(V:Buffer$+43,11)
>~MessageBox(0,"-"+Label$+"-","Label of drive "+CHR$(Drive|+64)+":",0)
>
>                                -->Bev<--
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
From: "Bev & Lou Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com>

Thanx for the help Tom BUT I want to be able to write the label also; so I
went back in my files & found the following email:

'=3D>>From: "Tom Record" <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net>
'=3D>>To: "Bev & Lou Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com>
'=3D>>Subject: re: Addition
'=3D>>Date: Wednesday, December 15, 1999 8:34 AM

''''  namer.lst
DEFINT "a-z"
TITLEW #1, " label a disk"
OPENW #1, 1,1,300,200,48
PRINT "                <any key> closes me."
PRINT
temp =3D _DRIVE
hold$ =3D "label.dat"
temp$ =3D "vol " + CHR$(temp) + ": > " + hold$
SHELL temp$
PAUSE 9            ' seems to need this or can't find file
OPEN "i",#1,"label.dat"
WHILE NOT EOF(#1)
  INPUT #1,a$
  PRINT a$
WEND
CLOSE #1
drv =3D 68
label$ =3D "Drive D"
mess$ =3D "label " + CHR$(drv) + ": " + label$
SHELL mess$
KEYGET k
CLOSEW #1
KILL hold$
END
At 01:20 PM 06/02/00 +0100, you wrote:
>List Member Sven Kumlin <sven.kumlin@hem.utfors.se> wrote:
>Hi Tom
>
>The question is now how to write a new label to a disk?
>
>Sven Kumlin
>
>----- Ursprungligt meddelande -----=20
>Fr=E5n: Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net>
>Till: <gfabasic@gfa.net>
>Skickat: den 27 januari 2000 16:49
>=C4mne: Re: [gfabasic] old code
>
>
>List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>''''  testbed.lst
>d&  =3D _DRIVE
>CHDIR "."
>? " Start: ";d&;"  ";CHR$(d&)
>home$ =3D DIR$(0) + "\"  //  home dir
>'CHDIR CHR$(d&) + ":\"
>CHDRIVE "a"
>d1&  =3D _DRIVE
>? " Go to: ";d1&;"  ";CHR$(d1&)
>TITLEW #1, "TomR.'s Testbed Window"
>OPENW #1, 0,0,300,200,48
>PRINT
>'
>'
>TYPE dta:
>- CHAR*21  fs_donttouch$
>- BYTE     fs_attr
>- CARD     fs_time
>- CARD     fs_date
>- LONG     fs_size
>- CHAR*14  fs_name$
>ENDTYPE
>dta% =3D FGETDTA()
>e% =3D FSFIRST("*.*",8)       /* Volume
>PRINT {dta%}.fs_name$       /* Volume name
>
>mar% =3D INSTR({dta%}.fs_name$,".")
>PRINT " Disk Volume Label (8+3 format): ";mar%
>par1$ =3D LEFT$({dta%}.fs_name$,mar% - 1)
>par2$ =3D RIGHT$({dta%}.fs_name$,LEN({dta%}.fs_name$) - mar%)
>par$ =3D par1$ + par2$
>PRINT " Disk Volume Label (ll char format): ";par$
>
>PRINT  " Volume Date: ";STR$({dta%}.fs_date) /* Date
>PRINT  " Volume Time: ";STR$({dta%}.fs_time)  /* Time
>'
>CHDRIVE d&
>CHDIR home$
>? " End up: ";d&;"  ";CHR$(d&)
>?
>PRINT "                     <any key> closes me."
>KEYGET k%
>CLOSEW #1
>END
>
>
>
>
>At 03:53 AM 27/01/00 -0500, you wrote:
>>List Member "Lou Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
>>Hi:
>>
>>I came across the following code in my files & thought it might answer all
>>my questions about READ/WRITE SECTORS w/FAT32 but I can't even get it to
>>work. btw, I tried changing the $13 code to $21, sub $7305 code & still
>>nada.
>>
>>Also, I would like to be able to write a LABEL to a disk. Any help would=
 be
>>appreciated.
>>
>>Here's the code:
>>
>>From: Roland Walter <alibaba@zedat.fu-berlin.de>
>>To: gfabasic@aachen.linux.de <gfabasic@aachen.linux.de>
>>Subject: [GFA] Get volume label by Interrupt
>>Date: October 6, 1998 1257 Bev
>>
>>* List: gfabasic@aachen.linux.de
>>
>>Here is an other way to get the volume label.
>>I would say FGETDTA is better - but may there is
>>anybody who don't hates interrupts  :-))))))
>>
>>
>>'Get the volume label by using BIOS interrupt function ReadSector
>>INTR($13,_AH=3D$02)
>>' =A9 Roland Walter, Sch=F6nhauser Allee 64, D-10437 Berlin; October 1998
>>'More information see Ralf Brown's Interrupt list (you will find it in
>>Internet)
>>'
>>Drive|=3D1  '1=3DA:, 2=3DB: (use for floppy only)
>>~INTR($21,_AH=3D$30,_AL=3D$0) 'get DOS version
>>IF _AL>6 THEN W95!=3DTRUE 'MS-DOS 7.0 (Windows 95) - we have to lock the
>>volume before direct read/write
>>IF W95!=3DTRUE
>>  ~INTR($21,_AX=3D$440D,_CX=3D$084A,_BL=3DDrive|,_BH=3D0,_DX =3D%000)=
 'level 0 volume
>>lock to get only rights
>>  ~INTR($21,_AX=3D$440D,_CX=3D$084A,_BL=3DDrive|,_BH=3D0,_DX =3D%100)=
 'second level 0
>>volume lock for formatting
>>ENDIF
>>Buffer$=3DSTRING$(512,0) 'receives the sector 0 (the boot sector)
>>~INTR($13,_AH=3D$02,_DL=3DDrive|,_AL=3D1,_CH=3D0,_CL=3D0,_DH=3D0,_BX=3DLOW=
ORD(V:Buffer$),_
>>ES=3DHIWORD(V:Buffer$))
>>IF W95!=3DTRUE
>>  ~INTR($21,_AX =3D $440D,_CX=3D$086A,_BL=3DDrive|) 'decrease volume lock=
 level
>>  ~INTR($21,_AX =3D $440D,_CX=3D$086A,_BL=3DDrive|) 'unlock volume
>>ENDIF
>>'The volume label begins at byte 43 of the boot sector and has a size of=
 11
>>characters (rest filled with spaces)
>>'More information  list wich You can find in Internet (also as Windows=
 help
>>file)
>>Label$=3DPEEK$(V:Buffer$+43,11)
>>~MessageBox(0,"-"+Label$+"-","Label of drive "+CHR$(Drive|+64)+":",0)
>>
>>                                -->Bev<--
>>
>>
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I can't seem to get them to work unless they are started manually.

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Hi Micha=B3 Sejfried.
Your Programm crashes on my System, I made a solution for no
System-Crashes.
I had Systemcrashes with my Tetris-like Game too (since i changed my old
PCI-
Graphic-Board with a newer AGP-Graphic-Board (ATI-RAGE Fury) on my PC
and on other PCs with fast Graphic-Board). I had inserted a
framelimit-Procedure
"ppeekevent" and now works my Tetris-like Game with my AGP-Graphicboard.

Some Graphicboards are to fast and make a System crash or a System
Slowdown
if you not limit the framerate.

Sorry I don't found a solution for your Ball-in-Box-Problem.

Please insert folow Lines in your Programm:

...

DO
  ppeekevent ' Insert this line in your Programm here
  GOSUB anim_kulka
  GOSUB przesun
  a$ =3D INKEY$
LOOP UNTIL a$ =3D " "
GOSUB scr_fiz

...

PROCEDURE ppeekevent ' Insert this Procedure
  ' Frameratelimit to 100 Frames per second
  TTimer2% =3D TIMER
  DO
    time% =3D TIMER
    Delay% =3D time% - TTimer%
    DDELAY% =3D time% - TTimer2%
    IF Delay% < 0 THEN Delay% =3D time%
    IF DDELAY% < 0 THEN TTimer2% =3D time%
    PEEKEVENT
    EXIT IF Delay% > 9 AND DDELAY% > 3
  LOOP
  TTimer% =3D time%
  ttimer3% =3D TTimer2%
RETURN


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Hi Micha&sup3; Sejfried.
<br>Your Programm crashes on my System, I made a solution for no System-Crashes.
<br>I had Systemcrashes with my Tetris-like Game too (since i changed my
old PCI-
<br>Graphic-Board with a newer AGP-Graphic-Board (ATI-RAGE Fury) on my
PC
<br>and on other PCs with fast Graphic-Board). I had inserted a framelimit-Procedure
<br>"ppeekevent" and now works my Tetris-like Game with my AGP-Graphicboard.
<br>Some Graphicboards are to fast and make a System crash or a System
Slowdown
<br>if you not limit the framerate.
<p>Sorry I don't found a solution for your Ball-in-Box-Problem.
<p>Please insert folow Lines in your Programm:
<p>...
<p>DO
<br>&nbsp; <font color="#FF6600">ppeekevent ' Insert this line in your
Programm here</font>
<br>&nbsp; GOSUB anim_kulka
<br>&nbsp; GOSUB przesun
<br>&nbsp; a$ = INKEY$
<br>LOOP UNTIL a$ = " "
<br>GOSUB scr_fiz
<p>...
<p><font color="#FF6600">PROCEDURE ppeekevent ' Insert this Procedure</font>
<br><font color="#FF6600">&nbsp; ' Frameratelimit to 100 Frames per second</font>
<br><font color="#FF6600">&nbsp; TTimer2% = TIMER</font>
<br><font color="#FF6600">&nbsp; DO</font>
<br><font color="#FF6600">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; time% = TIMER</font>
<br><font color="#FF6600">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Delay% = time% - TTimer%</font>
<br><font color="#FF6600">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; DDELAY% = time% - TTimer2%</font>
<br><font color="#FF6600">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; IF Delay% &lt; 0 THEN Delay%
= time%</font>
<br><font color="#FF6600">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; IF DDELAY% &lt; 0 THEN TTimer2%
= time%</font>
<br><font color="#FF6600">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; PEEKEVENT</font>
<br><font color="#FF6600">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; EXIT IF Delay% > 9 AND DDELAY%
> 3</font>
<br><font color="#FF6600">&nbsp; LOOP</font>
<br><font color="#FF6600">&nbsp; TTimer% = time%</font>
<br><font color="#FF6600">&nbsp; ttimer3% = TTimer2%</font>
<br><font color="#FF6600">RETURN</font>
<br><font color="#FF6600"></font>&nbsp;
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Welcome to Peter Sejfried to the GFAWHELP biog and photo page.
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Brent

1st three lines in a compiled scr:
$DESCR SCRNSAVE: BDD
$LNK Exe c:\windows\bdd.scr
$Name BDD

$DESCR SCRNSAVE: the part that counts, MUST be the first line!  Windows
from Win31 look at all executables in the windows dir for this line & 
lists all that have it in the screensaver selection listbox.  What follows
this entry is unimportant past the name it will list in the listbox.

$LNK Exe  If you don't use c:\windows\etc.??? as your windows dir, then run the
GetWinDir routine so Windows can be found.  The importance of this line is
bullshit.  You can put the homepath of the *.lst file & it'll be written there.
The only snag to this line is it MUST contain a full path.

$Name  IF you put an icon in it, it can be used to start the saver.  This is
the name that will appear under the icon in ProgMan or MyComputer.

Net value... only the first two lines are important!  The 2nd's biggest value 
is in getting the compiler to name it *.scr.  YOU can do it afterward, if you
choose.

That FIRST line is what Windows needs to recognize a screensaver.

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>Hi Tom,
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>Do you know how to register a screen saver in win 95?
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>I can't seem to get them to work unless they are started manually.
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Hello !  I finally made it back to the land of the
living.  :)

Here is VectorText, a small portion of the vector
library I am working on.

I'm also working on Gredit and my own GUI.  If I
can find some time, I want to put together an
article and sourcecode:

"Smoked Glass and other Magic Tricks you can perform
at home"  :)

Enjoy !

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
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Here is a working codec-compressed display.  This will actually
display almost *any* *.bmp... odd colordepth is blocked for some
reason.  The codecs won't display 24, 32, 64, or 128 color images.

1-bit is OK under some circumstances, otherwise, the images must be
semi-standard.  16 colors, 256 colors, 16-bit & 24-bit.  There is an
indication that 32-bit *may* display &/or compress but I don't have
any & can't make any.  32-bit is a feature of Win98.

*This* display can be associated with *.bmp & when compiled and will
display the images by double-clicking on them.  This particular version
doesn't allow selection beyond the first one... you must run it again for
each image.  Sorry, I'm lazy & just haven't added that feature.  I use a
copy of this one simply to check images for size & whether or not they
have been compressed.

I haven't yet mastered putting the darned things into a *.res file.  If
anybody knows how, I'd appreciate some help on writing a routine to make
a workable *.rc file that can be compiled into a *.res.  What I'd like 
to do is to make a list of images I want to include & spit out a *.rc
file for compilation by Borland or MS (have both) to *.res.
<G>
TomR.

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List Member Pat Bullman <pbullman@norex.com.au> wrote:
Hi,

Over the last 12 months, I've been developing a data storage system in my
spare time, which I'm almost finished.  The system, called DbManagr, is
fairly basic and only allows for the creation of a database, Tables and
Fields and storage of records.  Also it only works for fixed length recor=
ds
but in testing has handled 200,000 records.  In theory each table of data
should be able to hold millions of records.  All data is stored in one
file.  The system allows for new fields to be inserted or deleted in a
table without the loss of data in other fields.

I intend building in record indexing, which hopefully will be completed b=
y
about Easter.

What I'm after is a volunteer (or two) to test out the system.  Tom Recor=
d
has tried to help but DbManagr refuses to work for him, yet it appears to
work fine on my two systems.  So the first issue is to see if DbManagr wi=
ll
work on someone else=92s equipment.

After getting it running, I would also appreciate feedback on the system,
like comments on its functionality, performance etc.=20

The source code will be provided, together with some documentation and tw=
o
very simple demo programs.

I've developed this thing part-time over the last few months and it shows
the effects of being picked up, worked on and left for weeks before being
touched again.  Ideally, a lot of code should be consolidated, but at the
moment I'm just happy it appears to work fairly quickly (for me anyway!)
and the DLL is quite small.

Anyone interested?


Pat


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From: "Roland Walter" <roland@rowalt.de>
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Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 16:54:27 -0000
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Subject: [gfabasic] HowTo: HiRes-Timer + Speaker
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List Member "Roland Walter" <roland@rowalt.de> wrote:
In attachement You will find an example listing which
shows how to use the PC's internal speaker by direct
hardware access. 
The listing is also a good example how to use the
high resolution programmable interval timer which has a
minimum resolution of 1.19MHz = 83,8 Nanoseconds (!!!).

Because it's also possible to use timer 2 (the speaker timer)
for other tasks there is a wide world open for the creative
programmer ;-)

By the way: If anybody asks You if GFA Basic is really able
for direct hardware access give him this listing. He will
believe You immediately because the use of hardware timer is
truly a classic discussion point...

Many fun,
Roland Walter



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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
UPDATES on the GFAWHELP web site today. GFA16

HISPEAK.ZIP by Roland Walter - sound through your computer speaker.
SHOWFONTS.ZIP by David Wicker. Vector fonts.
NEWBMP.ZIP by Tom Record -

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Dale

Roland did the primary work & translation of the codec _&_ the
inputfilter/*.dll combinations for *.gif & *.jpg that handle images
as metafiles in memory.  He *IS* the graphics GURU for GFA-W(16)!

John did a marvelous translation from "C" to load & display *.gif
*without* a *.dll in GFA-W(16).  Eberhard came up with a realistic
handling of colordepth conversions & saves in GFA-W(16), then went
back & expanded it's capability by adding nviewl16.dll to it.  A
sidenote... Eberhard's routines are the only ones I know of that 
will produce a reasonable conversion to 8-bit color REGARDLESS of
the colordepth setting of your monitor!  No other GFA-W(16) routine
can handle saving 8-bit properly unless the monitor is set to 8-bit.

Brent worked out some great metafile routines & David is working on
more in this line regarding text.  Bev has some credit coming, also.
He has several other formats now viewable in GFA_W(16), such as *.cur
& *.avi.  A fantastic crowd, wouldn't you say?

Me... I'm just the pain in the behind that keeps bugging & egging
others on.

I can now convert *.avi, *.gif animations, & *.mpg to *.bmp animations
in GFA-W(16).  I can also convert'em to *.flc, then from there to DOS
or Windows *.exe.  Anything I take to *.flc, I can make an *.mpg of.
The only problem here is that I have to use other people's appls.  I
can't do it by myself in GFA-W(16).

Some others are working on screensavers that don't function properly.
If they will send me a sample, I'll try to see why not.  After finally
understanding the placement of 3 statements, mine all work on W95a.

I sure wish I was as clever as the guys whose names appear in the earlier
part of this note... I'd have my own GFA-W(16) code for loading *.jpg.
BOY!  Would *that* ever make screensavers sit up & perform!

I learned that photos don't make good *.wmf!  Oh, they're great for doing
a resize onscreen, but the files they make are MONSTEROUSLY HUGE!  NOT
good for *me* & screensavers since I am seeking ways to NOT poke a bunch 
of unnecessary or large files into the windows dir.

<G>
TomR.

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Dale

Roland did the primary work & translation of the codec _&_ the
inputfilter/*.dll combinations for *.gif & *.jpg that handle images
as metafiles in memory.  He *IS* the graphics GURU for GFA-W(16)!

John did a marvelous translation from "C" to load & display *.gif
*without* a *.dll in GFA-W(16).  Eberhard came up with a realistic
handling of colordepth conversions & saves in GFA-W(16), then went
back & expanded it's capability by adding nviewl16.dll to it.  A
sidenote... Eberhard's routines are the only ones I know of that 
will produce a reasonable conversion to 8-bit color REGARDLESS of
the colordepth setting of your monitor!  No other GFA-W(16) routine
can handle saving 8-bit properly unless the monitor is set to 8-bit.

Brent worked out some great metafile routines & David is working on
more in this line regarding text.  Bev has some credit coming, also.
He has several other formats now viewable in GFA_W(16), such as *.cur
& *.avi.  A fantastic crowd, wouldn't you say?

Me... I'm just the pain in the behind that keeps bugging & egging
others on.

I can now convert *.avi, *.gif animations, & *.mpg to *.bmp animations
in GFA-W(16).  I can also convert'em to *.flc, then from there to DOS
or Windows *.exe.  Anything I take to *.flc, I can make an *.mpg of.
The only problem here is that I have to use other people's appls.  I
can't do it by myself in GFA-W(16).

Some others are working on screensavers that don't function properly.
If they will send me a sample, I'll try to see why not.  After finally
understanding the placement of 3 statements, mine all work on W95a.

I sure wish I was as clever as the guys whose names appear in the earlier
part of this note... I'd have my own GFA-W(16) code for loading *.jpg.
BOY!  Would *that* ever make screensavers sit up & perform!

I learned that photos don't make good *.wmf!  Oh, they're great for doing
a resize onscreen, but the files they make are MONSTEROUSLY HUGE!  NOT
good for *me* & screensavers since I am seeking ways to NOT poke a bunch 
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<G>
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Hi Dale here Peter.


I'va some interesting programs on your site. Where I must send it.


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Hi. Here Peter.

I wont get my autostart folder. Is something what return this path. When =
I'll know path to autostart folder I'd like to create shortcut to my =
program. Can you help me?.


42810730@pro.onet.pl

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Hallo Peter,

as attechment folder1.gfw, that shows you how you can receive
the autostart folder from your location.
It works with 32 bit shell-function only.

For more desciption you must read some special books.

Regards

Eberhard

    -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----
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   =20
   =20
    Hi. Here Peter.
   =20
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When I'll know path to autostart folder I'd like to create shortcut to =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>as attechment folder1.gfw, that shows =
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can receive</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>the autostart folder from your=20
location.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It works with 32 bit shell-function=20
only.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>For more desciption you must read some =
special=20
books.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial size=3D2>Regards</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Has anybody seen source code for converting *.wav to *.mid?
For that matter, from *.wav to *.mod?  A *.mod player?

Either format makes a much smaller file than *.wav.
<G>
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Peter
This will list to a file ALL filders/dirs in the windows dir/folder.
It is NOT Win95-dependent.  There is one wrapped line below.
<G>
TomR.

CLS                             //for dos
FULLW #1                        //for windows
SETFONT OEM_FIXED_FONT          //for windows
OPEN "o",#1,"start.dat" /* leave this if you want a hardcopy
DEFMOUSE 2
@ListDir("c:\windows\*.*",1) /* change to ("*.*",1) to log ALL
DEFMOUSE 0
PRINT #1
PRINT #1,STR$(occu%,12)
CLOSE #1
CLOSEW #1
END

PROCEDURE ListDir(mask$,flag&)
  LOCAL dtasave$
  LOCAL dta% = FGETDTA()
  LOCAL e&,f$,a|,main$,i&
  LOCAL d&,da$,t&,ti$,out$,m$
  main$ = mask$
  i& = RINSTR(main$,"\")
  IF i& = 0 THEN i& = RINSTR(main$,":")
  IF i&
    main$ = LEFT$(main$,i&)
  ELSE
    main$ = ""
  ENDIF
  dtasave$ = PEEK$(dta%,44)               //for DOS & Windows
  e& = FSFIRST(mask$,$17) //all files
  m$ = main$
  i& = INSTR(m$,"\")
  WHILE e& = 0
    f$ = CHAR{dta% + 30}               //name
    a| = PEEK(dta% + 21)            //attribut
    len% = LPEEK(dta% + 26)
    out$ = ""
    IF a| & 32
      out$ = out$ + "A"
    ELSE
      out$ = out$ + "-"
    ENDIF
    IF a| & 16
      out$ = out$ + "D"
      mark1& = 1
    ELSE
      out$ = out$ + "-"
    ENDIF
    IF a| & 4
      out$ = out$ + "S"
    ELSE
      out$ = out$ + "-"
    ENDIF
    IF a| & 2
      out$ = out$ + "H"
      mark2& = 1
    ELSE
      out$ = out$ + "-"
    ENDIF
    IF a| & 1
      out$ = out$ + "R"
    ELSE
      out$ = out$ + "-"
    ENDIF
    IF mark1& = 1 THEN mark& = 1  /* && mark2& = 1 THEN mark& = 1
    out$ = out$ + " "
    out$ = out$ + m$        //remove for name alone
    out$ = out$ + f$ + "  "
    '    IF mark& = 1 THEN PRINT #1,out$
    /* you can skip the date & time if you want
    d& = DPEEK(dta% + 24)                         //Datum
    da$ = DEC$(d& & 31,2)                       //Tag
    da$ = da$ + "/"
    da$ = da$ + DEC$(SHR&(d&,4) & 15,2)           //Monat
    da$ = da$ + "/"
    da$ = da$ + DEC$(1980 + (SHR&(d&,9) & 127))   //Jahr
    out$ = out$ + da$ + " "
    t& = DPEEK(dta% + 22)                         //Zeit
    ti$ = DEC$(SHR&(t&,11) & 31,2)               //Stunde
    ti$ = ti$ + ":"
    ti$ = ti$ + DEC$(SHR&(t&,5) & 63,2)           //Minute
    ti$ = ti$ + ":"
    ti$ = ti$ + DEC$((t& & 31) * 2,2)               //Sekunde
    out$ = out$ + ti$ + " "
    IF ~a| & 16
      out$ = out$ + STR$(len%,8)
      IF mark& = 1 && RIGHT$(f$,3) = "jpg" OR RIGHT$(f$,3) = "JPG" OR
RIGHT$(f$,3) = "gif" OR RIGHT$(f$,3) = "GIF"THEN
        occu% = occu% + len%
      ENDIF
    ELSE
      out$ = out$ + "   <DIR>"
    ENDIF
    '    PRINT out$ /* printing to screen takes a long time!
    IF mark& = 1 THEN PRINT #1,out$
    /* you can log ANYTHING you want by putting it here.
    '    IF RIGHT$(f$,3) = "jpg" OR RIGHT$(f$,3) = "JPG" OR RIGHT$(f$,3) =
"gif" OR RIGHT$(f$,3) = "GIF"THEN
    '    PRINT #1,out$
    '  ENDIF
    mark1& = 0
    mark2& = 0
    mark& = 0
    IF a| & $10 && flag& && ASC(f$) != 46
      //      PRINT ">>>>";f$
      @ListDir(main$ + f$ + "\*.*",flag& + 1)
    ENDIF
    e& = FSNEXT()
    //    KEYGET a%
  WEND
  POKE$ dta%,dtasave$                   //For Dos & Windows
RETURN


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Subject: [gfabasic] Autostart - shortcut
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Hi.

Could you send me example listing which make shortcut in startup folder =
from current path. E.g. From E:\GFABASIC\PROGRAMS\XXX.EXE to your =
startup folder (e.g. C:\WINDOWS\MENUSTART\PROGRAMS\STARTUP\)

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Hi,

To make shortcuts in GFA Basic is not possible.
You must work with OLE component model (COM).
Forget it.

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List Member UlliStemmeler@t-online.de (Ulli Stemmeler) wrote:
Hello,

"wav->mid",
if this would exist it would be really nice !
It would diminish some of my work from days to seconds !
It would make many people workless (for example those who sell midifiles in the 
internet)
At the moment, if you want to build a midi-file you need a musician with good 
ears to recognize the music in a wav-file (or whatever) who is able to play them 
on a music-keyboard and make midi-tracks of each instrument. Usually you need a 
music sequencer programm (like Audio-Logic or "Steinberg Cubase " > that's what 
I use)to do this. At the end you save all those tracks in a "Standard-Midi-File" 
(mid).
And of course a midi-File can't reproduce singing, you have to replace the 
vocals of a song with some of the possible midi-sounds. Words always get lost 
this way.
A computer programm would do the same but I think the development is far away 
from this point. It would be a lot of stuff:
- recognize all used instruments.
- recognize all melodies and harmonies (chords)
- recognize the tempo (which, if the original music was played by humans never 
is 100% exactly, it always changes a litte bit)

It's quite more difficult than for example an OCR-(text-recognize)-Programm. All 
the programms I have seen produce so many errors that (for me) it's faster to 
write a text than checking all the possible errors after an OCR-action.

Some months ago I saw a "Midi-Scan"-Programm: It should transfer the notes of a 
scanned musical-notes-page to a midi file. It was even worse than an 
OCR-Programm: for me it was faster to write the notes/play them on my keyboard.
Too many errors...

With mid-files there is always a compromise to do: it sounds different depending 
on the quality of the sound-card or external midi-device.
Some elder sound-cards don't support all the 16 midi-channels of today: a friend 
of mine has an elder Sound-Blaster-card with just the first 10 midi-channels.
So when I produce midi-files I tend to avoid the use of more than 10 channels, 
but this is not possible always (depending on the music).

I never heard, saw and listened to mod-files. Can somebody send me an example 
(even to find out if there's a programm on my PC able to play them ?)

If you want to reduce the size of of wave-files, there are the following 
options:
- reduce the qualitiy of the wave file (although what remains possibly isn't 
worth to listen to). You can reduce from Stereo to mono, reduce from CD to 
Radio-qualitiy and even telephone-quality...
- convert the wave-file to a MP3-file. Normaly this has only a 10% of the size 
of a wave file. Depending on the length of the file this somethimes is short 
enough to be placed on a website, in an eMail or even a programm.

"Modern" pc-systems with windows can play MP3-files via  MCI (MPEGvideo, 
ActiveMovie). On my MultiViewer programm (on the website of Dale in the 
GF32-section) you can play them (if the system is able to do it).
Me and Markus Rauch (markus.rauch@ob.kamp.net) are working on our MP3-players 
using GFA32. As far as the MCI-components everything is possible with GFA-16 as 
well, the orders are the same. It is even better to handle than wave-files, 
because you can control the volume of MP3s but not of WAVs.

I hope I haven't talked to much (it was an attack !)

Sincerely,

Ulli Stemmeler



Tom Record schrieb:
List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Has anybody seen source code for converting *.wav to *.mid?
For that matter, from *.wav to *.mod?  A *.mod player?

Either format makes a much smaller file than *.wav.
<G>
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Ulli
Talk away!  Not very inspirational, but very informative.
*.mod ... have to fire up the 486, but will send you some *.mod
& a player.  As far as I know, MS has put out NOTHING that will 
play *.mod.  A GREAT format for long tunes, small files.  I have
NOT downloaded the format from the net.  Seems that most of the
files I've run across are composed by wierdos... InnerSanctum,
TwilightZone, *that* type of music.  Doesn't mean that ALL has to
be strange & sensless, tho.

I can reduce the player to "push", "pop", "shove"... assembler?
Can't get back to *.exe, tho.
<G>
TomR.



At 07:42 PM 08/02/00 +0100, you wrote:
>List Member UlliStemmeler@t-online.de (Ulli Stemmeler) wrote:
>Hello,
>
>"wav->mid",
>if this would exist it would be really nice !
>It would diminish some of my work from days to seconds !
>It would make many people workless (for example those who sell midifiles in
the 
>internet)
>At the moment, if you want to build a midi-file you need a musician with good 
>ears to recognize the music in a wav-file (or whatever) who is able to play
them 
>on a music-keyboard and make midi-tracks of each instrument. Usually you
need a 
>music sequencer programm (like Audio-Logic or "Steinberg Cubase " > that's
what 
>I use)to do this. At the end you save all those tracks in a
"Standard-Midi-File" 
>(mid).
>And of course a midi-File can't reproduce singing, you have to replace the 
>vocals of a song with some of the possible midi-sounds. Words always get lost 
>this way.
>A computer programm would do the same but I think the development is far away 
>from this point. It would be a lot of stuff:
>- recognize all used instruments.
>- recognize all melodies and harmonies (chords)
>- recognize the tempo (which, if the original music was played by humans never 
>is 100% exactly, it always changes a litte bit)
>
>It's quite more difficult than for example an
OCR-(text-recognize)-Programm. All 
>the programms I have seen produce so many errors that (for me) it's faster to 
>write a text than checking all the possible errors after an OCR-action.
>
>Some months ago I saw a "Midi-Scan"-Programm: It should transfer the notes
of a 
>scanned musical-notes-page to a midi file. It was even worse than an 
>OCR-Programm: for me it was faster to write the notes/play them on my keyboard.
>Too many errors...
>
>With mid-files there is always a compromise to do: it sounds different
depending 
>on the quality of the sound-card or external midi-device.
>Some elder sound-cards don't support all the 16 midi-channels of today: a
friend 
>of mine has an elder Sound-Blaster-card with just the first 10 midi-channels.
>So when I produce midi-files I tend to avoid the use of more than 10 channels, 
>but this is not possible always (depending on the music).
>
>I never heard, saw and listened to mod-files. Can somebody send me an example 
>(even to find out if there's a programm on my PC able to play them ?)
>
>If you want to reduce the size of of wave-files, there are the following 
>options:
>- reduce the qualitiy of the wave file (although what remains possibly isn't 
>worth to listen to). You can reduce from Stereo to mono, reduce from CD to 
>Radio-qualitiy and even telephone-quality...
>- convert the wave-file to a MP3-file. Normaly this has only a 10% of the size 
>of a wave file. Depending on the length of the file this somethimes is short 
>enough to be placed on a website, in an eMail or even a programm.
>
>"Modern" pc-systems with windows can play MP3-files via  MCI (MPEGvideo, 
>ActiveMovie). On my MultiViewer programm (on the website of Dale in the 
>GF32-section) you can play them (if the system is able to do it).
>Me and Markus Rauch (markus.rauch@ob.kamp.net) are working on our MP3-players 
>using GFA32. As far as the MCI-components everything is possible with
GFA-16 as 
>well, the orders are the same. It is even better to handle than wave-files, 
>because you can control the volume of MP3s but not of WAVs.
>
>I hope I haven't talked to much (it was an attack !)
>
>Sincerely,
>
>Ulli Stemmeler
>
>
>
>Tom Record schrieb:
>List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>Has anybody seen source code for converting *.wav to *.mid?
>For that matter, from *.wav to *.mod?  A *.mod player?
>
>Either format makes a much smaller file than *.wav.
><G>
>TomR.
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List Member "Andras Szalay" <a.szalay@mail.matav.hu> wrote:
>>List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>>Has anybody seen source code for converting *.wav to *.mid?

Tom, 
this is my job. During the last 15 years I designed five different real time
guitar - to - MIDI converters. By the last three devices (which use a 
neural net for fast pattern recognition, see them at:

http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/bluechipmusic/  ) 

I used GFA-BASIC extensively  for off-line modeling 
of the algorithms. This model programs ARE basically 
*.wav to *.mid converters. However, the subject is very complex,
and the answer if you find a solution for your problem depends
completely on the conditions how do you want to use it.
The most important question is what do you want to use as 
a source (the .WAV file). If it is not strictly monophonic, then
you can forget it. Although theoretically not impossible 
(I made already successful attempts), it is beyond the reliable
state of the art today. You can find some commercial programs 
that promise that, but do not trust them; I tried some and none was 
usable at all. Even if you stay by monophonic signal, there are
some very important factors that influence the quality of the
pitch tracking, or if it works at all:

1.) What is the input source. You can expect good results from
instruments with low overtone content and continuous amplitude,
like flute or clarinet. Guitar signals are tricky, because the waveshape
is permanently changing (due to slightly detuned overtones), and
human vocal has sometimes an overtone with ten times higher amplitude
as the fundamental. I have algorithms optimized for the letter two
(either guitar, or vocal), but not any that works equally well with both.

2.) Speed of the performance (should be slow)

3.) Perfectness of the performance

4.) Recording environment (noises, hall reverberation).

5.) Can the pitch contour be quantized to semitones or not?
E.g. a piano can always be quantized, a guitar sometimes yes,
sometimes not; a vocal almost never. If the pitch is not quantized, the 
MIDI description can be complicated and full of compromises.

>>Either format makes a much smaller file than *.wav.
This is basically true, but this statement sounds as if you would like 
to use the MIDI file as a compressed replacement for the WAV file. 
Unlike an MP3 compression that tries to preserve completely
the sound character of a WAV file (and it does it with very good
accuracy) the MIDI file would always resemble that WAV like
a hand-drawn portrait resembles a photo of the same person.
You can find some shareware programs that do *.wav to *.mid
conversion, but none of them tries to figure out itself what the input
instrument is, this is left to the user.
Basically, the MIDI file is not only smaller, but it contains accordingly 
less information. If you define more accurately what do you want
to use this for, probably I can help you more.

Regards
		Andras Szalay

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List Member UlliStemmeler@t-online.de (Ulli Stemmeler) wrote:
Hello Andras ,

do you think that this programs of convert wav > mid would work with sour=
ces=20
having more than one instrument ? For example a recording of a guitar, pi=
ano,=20
bass and drums ? The programm should separate the sounds of several instr=
uments=20
played at the same time, maybe in the same frequencies. I guess this must=
 be=20
very difficult, I think it can happen that chord notes from two different=
=20
instruments can't be separated exactly. If it it possible, this would be=20
a great deal ! Well, I say this without any knowledge of the way an analy=
sis of=20
sampled audio works. My programming just is about how to use existing for=
ms of=20
sound and midi and so on (MCI etc).

You wrote:
You can find some shareware programs that do *.wav to *.mid
conversion, but none of them tries to figure out itself what the input
instrument is, this is left to the user.

>>>> could you tell me how I can find one of them to try it ?

It's easy to move a stereo wav-file to mono and use this, and I guess I a=
m able=20
to decide which instrument should be used in a midi-file (sometimes I cha=
nge=20
them to something else than in the original, because the midi-sound of th=
e=20
needed instrument is too ugly and I prefer something else).
>>> about what you said which instrument is easier to recognize and what =
not:
This seemes to be the same problem like in the use of sampled sounds (tha=
t's=20
what midi is doing also, if it is not just FM-Synthesis). Some instrument=
s sound=20
better than others: classical horns and reeds (clarinet, flute etc) sound=
 better=20
than things like saxophone or let's say a sampled saxophone always sounds=
 like a=20
sax played in classic music (because of the standard sound expected from =
any=20
musician, and the sound can not be changed within an instrument).
So why use midifiles ? One thing is because of the small size, it can be=20
recieved much faster than audio-data in the internet. Although, I have ma=
ny=20
friends who hate midi (most of them because of the bad sound of their sou=
nd=20
cards).
For me they are useful because you can load them into a sequencer program=
m (like=20
audio-logic, cubase or cakewalk), show the music as notes on screen and p=
rint=20
them. OK, midifiles don't have much informations about the music (like th=
e key=20
in which it is written, key changes etc.). They just bring the notes (wit=
hout=20
declaring more things about the content > like the key) and the tempo. Te=
mpo=20
changes are also possible, and informations about things a digital synthe=
sizer=20
and a sound-card can replay (programm changes, pedal informations, pitch=20
shifting etc.)
MidiFiles are like "ASCII-text" with just some of the main informations. =
It=20
would be nice to have a "Rich-Midi" that contains more information than=20
midi-files, maybe informations about the key of the music, lyrics...
I remember, in old "atari days" a friend of mine had a midi-guitar, that =
sends=20
midi informations. I have a Midi-Saxophone, but I dont use it. Both instr=
uments=20
take a lot of informations beside the notes like pitch-shiftig and=20
breath-control-messages, much more than note informations. So the result =
was=20
that a midi-file with such things was much bigger than a midifile just ma=
de with=20
a synthesizer. This informations are send continuosly with those instrume=
nts and=20
you never know if they are needed or not. You can filter them, but after =
this=20
the result is the same as if something was played by a music keyboard (an=
d not=20
midi-guitar or midi-sax).

Could you please inform me about your progress in this wav->mid-things ? =
It=20
sounds quite interesting to me what you are doing ! It is part of my work=
 to=20
write down music. Sometimes I make arrangements for a midi-fied pipe-orga=
n and=20
my work is used as midifiles sent to that organ.
So one part is always to write down the original, if there are no notes I=
 have=20
to write down the music from sometimes bad recorded originals, and this w=
ork=20
sometimes takes hours, because you can't hear everything (many often one=20
instrument can not be heard very good or one instruments disturbs another=
).

At least it would be great if a programm would be able to recognize an ol=
d=20
recording from a BigBand separating all the instruments (like a recording=
 of=20
Duke Ellington from the 1920s...)
Let's see what will be possible !

sincerely

Ulli Stemmeler
M=FCnster
Germany/Alemania/Alemanha
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Homepage:	http://home.t-online.de/home/ullistemmeler
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Andras
I'm learning <G>.  A whole lot more than I really wanted to <G>.
I was looking for "background music" to accompany screensavers.
I converted a lengthy *.html & images to a codec-*.bmp animation.
there was a *.mid file of christmas music w/ the original & I
was able to incorporate it into the animation, also.

I'm not absolutely certain that a *.mod is much different from a
*.mid... I think it seems to follow the same set of rules.  If
you would like, I'll send you the files I'm getting off my 486
for Ulli - several *.mod files & a player.

I was never able to contact the author - he's in South Aftica
on fidonet.  I haven't seen or heard anything more from or about
him in several years.
<G>
TomR.


At 11:42 PM 08/02/00 +0100, you wrote:
>List Member "Andras Szalay" <a.szalay@mail.matav.hu> wrote:
>>>List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>>>Has anybody seen source code for converting *.wav to *.mid?
>
>Tom, 
>this is my job. During the last 15 years I designed five different real time
>guitar - to - MIDI converters. By the last three devices (which use a 
>neural net for fast pattern recognition, see them at:
>
>http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/bluechipmusic/  ) 
>
>I used GFA-BASIC extensively  for off-line modeling 
>of the algorithms. This model programs ARE basically 
>*.wav to *.mid converters. However, the subject is very complex,
>and the answer if you find a solution for your problem depends
>completely on the conditions how do you want to use it.
>The most important question is what do you want to use as 
>a source (the .WAV file). If it is not strictly monophonic, then
>you can forget it. Although theoretically not impossible 
>(I made already successful attempts), it is beyond the reliable
>state of the art today. You can find some commercial programs 
>that promise that, but do not trust them; I tried some and none was 
>usable at all. Even if you stay by monophonic signal, there are
>some very important factors that influence the quality of the
>pitch tracking, or if it works at all:
>
>1.) What is the input source. You can expect good results from
>instruments with low overtone content and continuous amplitude,
>like flute or clarinet. Guitar signals are tricky, because the waveshape
>is permanently changing (due to slightly detuned overtones), and
>human vocal has sometimes an overtone with ten times higher amplitude
>as the fundamental. I have algorithms optimized for the letter two
>(either guitar, or vocal), but not any that works equally well with both.
>
>2.) Speed of the performance (should be slow)
>
>3.) Perfectness of the performance
>
>4.) Recording environment (noises, hall reverberation).
>
>5.) Can the pitch contour be quantized to semitones or not?
>E.g. a piano can always be quantized, a guitar sometimes yes,
>sometimes not; a vocal almost never. If the pitch is not quantized, the 
>MIDI description can be complicated and full of compromises.
>
>>>Either format makes a much smaller file than *.wav.
>This is basically true, but this statement sounds as if you would like 
>to use the MIDI file as a compressed replacement for the WAV file. 
>Unlike an MP3 compression that tries to preserve completely
>the sound character of a WAV file (and it does it with very good
>accuracy) the MIDI file would always resemble that WAV like
>a hand-drawn portrait resembles a photo of the same person.
>You can find some shareware programs that do *.wav to *.mid
>conversion, but none of them tries to figure out itself what the input
>instrument is, this is left to the user.
>Basically, the MIDI file is not only smaller, but it contains accordingly 
>less information. If you define more accurately what do you want
>to use this for, probably I can help you more.
>
>Regards
>		Andras Szalay
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
On the GFAWHELP web site.

MARKMIDI.ZIP by Mark Feaver - you will love this  one. Mark is a GFA midi
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source is included and a great graphic screen
BIGTEXT.ZIP also by Mark - In the Utilities section
no source.
GFANL165.ZIP GFA 16 News Letter with code
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:


--- Tom Record
<tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Has anybody seen source code for converting *.wav to
> *.mid?
> For that matter, from *.wav to *.mod?  A *.mod
> player?
> 
> Either format makes a much smaller file than *.wav.
> <G>
> TomR.

Greets Tom:

Actually, I'd be interested in any program that
can do conversions of that sort, with or without
source code.  :)

Okay people, I actually found some legitimate work,
(who woulda thunk it!) So I may be outta pocket at
least till Saturday.  I'll come in occasionally and
kibitz if I can, but if not you know where to find
me.  Vector Text is going to get a bit of a face
lift.  I'd forgotten I can do a kinna metallic
sheen like I did in Crystal Waves soo it needs to
do it to !

Regarding this really good .GIF/.JPG/.BMP
readers & writers, please let me know of the .DLL
and I'll check them out too !

Sincerely,
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> CLS                             //for dos
> FULLW #1                        //for windows
> SETFONT OEM_FIXED_FONT          //for windows
> OPEN "o",#1,"start.dat" /* leave this if you want a
> hardcopy
> DEFMOUSE 2
> @ListDir("c:\windows\*.*",1) /* change to ("*.*",1)
> to log ALL
> DEFMOUSE 0
> PRINT #1
> PRINT #1,STR$(occu%,12)
> CLOSE #1
> CLOSEW #1
> END
> 
> PROCEDURE ListDir(mask$,flag&)
>   LOCAL dtasave$
>   LOCAL dta% = FGETDTA()
>   LOCAL e&,f$,a|,main$,i&
>   LOCAL d&,da$,t&,ti$,out$,m$
>   main$ = mask$
>   i& = RINSTR(main$,"\")
>   IF i& = 0 THEN i& = RINSTR(main$,":")
>   IF i&
>     main$ = LEFT$(main$,i&)
>   ELSE
>     main$ = ""
>   ENDIF
>   dtasave$ = PEEK$(dta%,44)               //for DOS
> & Windows
>   e& = FSFIRST(mask$,$17) //all files
>   m$ = main$
>   i& = INSTR(m$,"\")
>   WHILE e& = 0
>     f$ = CHAR{dta% + 30}               //name
>     a| = PEEK(dta% + 21)            //attribut
>     len% = LPEEK(dta% + 26)
>     out$ = ""
>     IF a| & 32
>       out$ = out$ + "A"
>     ELSE
>       out$ = out$ + "-"
>     ENDIF
>     IF a| & 16
>       out$ = out$ + "D"
>       mark1& = 1
>     ELSE
>       out$ = out$ + "-"
>     ENDIF
>     IF a| & 4
>       out$ = out$ + "S"
>     ELSE
>       out$ = out$ + "-"
>     ENDIF
>     IF a| & 2
>       out$ = out$ + "H"
>       mark2& = 1
>     ELSE
>       out$ = out$ + "-"
>     ENDIF
>     IF a| & 1
>       out$ = out$ + "R"
>     ELSE
>       out$ = out$ + "-"
>     ENDIF
>     IF mark1& = 1 THEN mark& = 1  /* && mark2& = 1
> THEN mark& = 1
>     out$ = out$ + " "
>     out$ = out$ + m$        //remove for name alone
>     out$ = out$ + f$ + "  "
>     '    IF mark& = 1 THEN PRINT #1,out$
>     /* you can skip the date & time if you want
>     d& = DPEEK(dta% + 24)                        
> //Datum
>     da$ = DEC$(d& & 31,2)                      
> //Tag
>     da$ = da$ + "/"
>     da$ = da$ + DEC$(SHR&(d&,4) & 15,2)          
> //Monat
>     da$ = da$ + "/"
>     da$ = da$ + DEC$(1980 + (SHR&(d&,9) & 127))  
> //Jahr
>     out$ = out$ + da$ + " "
>     t& = DPEEK(dta% + 22)                        
> //Zeit
>     ti$ = DEC$(SHR&(t&,11) & 31,2)              
> //Stunde
>     ti$ = ti$ + ":"
>     ti$ = ti$ + DEC$(SHR&(t&,5) & 63,2)          
> //Minute
>     ti$ = ti$ + ":"
>     ti$ = ti$ + DEC$((t& & 31) * 2,2)              
> //Sekunde
>     out$ = out$ + ti$ + " "
>     IF ~a| & 16
>       out$ = out$ + STR$(len%,8)
>       IF mark& = 1 && RIGHT$(f$,3) = "jpg" OR
> RIGHT$(f$,3) = "JPG" OR
> RIGHT$(f$,3) = "gif" OR RIGHT$(f$,3) = "GIF"THEN
>         occu% = occu% + len%
>       ENDIF
>     ELSE
>       out$ = out$ + "   <DIR>"
>     ENDIF
>     '    PRINT out$ /* printing to screen takes a
> long time!
>     IF mark& = 1 THEN PRINT #1,out$
>     /* you can log ANYTHING you want by putting it
> here.
>     '    IF RIGHT$(f$,3) = "jpg" OR RIGHT$(f$,3) =
> "JPG" OR RIGHT$(f$,3) =
> "gif" OR RIGHT$(f$,3) = "GIF"THEN
>     '    PRINT #1,out$
>     '  ENDIF
>     mark1& = 0
>     mark2& = 0
>     mark& = 0
>     IF a| & $10 && flag& && ASC(f$) != 46
>       //      PRINT ">>>>";f$
>       @ListDir(main$ + f$ + "\*.*",flag& + 1)
>     ENDIF
>     e& = FSNEXT()
>     //    KEYGET a%
>   WEND
>   POKE$ dta%,dtasave$                   //For Dos &
> Windows
> RETURN

Greets Tom:

Please put this file in a downloadable packet
for all of us that aren't using the perfect mail
servers.  :)

I tried copying this to notepad, saving it as ASCII,
it gets garbled every time.

Thanks !

Sincerely,
David W.
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Errr, more specific, please.  Which *.dlls?  nviewl, wecj, MS...
<G>
TomR.


At 07:28 PM 08/02/00 -0800, you wrote:
>List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>
>--- Tom Record
><tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> List Member Tom Record
>> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> Has anybody seen source code for converting *.wav to
>> *.mid?
>> For that matter, from *.wav to *.mod?  A *.mod
>> player?
>> 
>> Either format makes a much smaller file than *.wav.
>> <G>
>> TomR.
>
>Greets Tom:
>
>Actually, I'd be interested in any program that
>can do conversions of that sort, with or without
>source code.  :)
>
>Okay people, I actually found some legitimate work,
>(who woulda thunk it!) So I may be outta pocket at
>least till Saturday.  I'll come in occasionally and
>kibitz if I can, but if not you know where to find
>me.  Vector Text is going to get a bit of a face
>lift.  I'd forgotten I can do a kinna metallic
>sheen like I did in Crystal Waves soo it needs to
>do it to !
>
>Regarding this really good .GIF/.JPG/.BMP
>readers & writers, please let me know of the .DLL
>and I'll check them out too !
>
>Sincerely,
>David W.
>
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At 07:35 PM 08/02/00 -0800, you wrote:
>List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:

David, et.al.
Sorry.  Cleaned this up a tad, then zipped.  As is, will list only
dirs it finds in c:\windows\.  If you don't have that location for
your windows dir, alter the line to suit or add GetSystemDir.

This doesn't list to screen, but you can unREM one line toward the 
bottom & make it list to screen, too.  It just takes a long time on
a large HD to do this way.

This isn't mine, originally - I just modified something I found a long
time ago.
<G>
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--- BDD <BrentDeck@compuserve.com> wrote:
> List Member BDD <BrentDeck@compuserve.com> wrote:
> I would like to request that no files be sent to
> this mailing list without
> a pure ascii text cover letter.
> 
> Recently, a number of posts have been made with
> multiple parts, and no text
> associated with them.
> 
> There is no way I can judge whether or not I want to
> download them.
> 
> So I just delete them. I fear I may be deleting some
> valueable code, but I
> will never know.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Brent 

Greets Brent:

I always try to put a bit of a message together
whenever I upload something in here.  I hope you're
not requesting the absence of binary attachments
altogether because I'm using Yahoo mail which won't
let me ASCII extract out easily that is written in
here.  In my packages, I also include a .EXE and .LST
file as well as the usual .GFW.  If it's not common
knowledge to most of you, saving a .GFW file is
okay, but if one bit gets shifted wrong in that
kind of tokenized file, the whole kit and kaboodle
source code is =LOST!=  Anytime you save your .GFW
file, get in a good habit of saving an ASCII one with
the WRITE function, write after that.

As a courtesy, you can include a .EXE GFARUN10.DLL
dependent runtime in your uploaded PKZIP too.
Some people just can't wait to bring the editor up
and want to see your stuff immediately.  :)

[ALT] F A [ENTER] Y
  The screen prompts and the audio signals tell me
  where I am and whether or not I am overwriting
  a prior copy.

[ALT] F W [ENTER]
  This saves off your source code in ASCII.  If
  a bit or two gets shifted in here, it's not the
  end of the world!  Just bring up a nice proggy
  like Notepad and fix it up a bit.

I can see no real reason why GFA chooses to have
their default save do a tokenized file.  I can also
see that some source-code helper background tools
will be nice so I'll doodle those too when I get
some time.

Sincerely,
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--- Tom Record
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> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Andras
> I'm learning <G>.  A whole lot more than I really
> wanted to <G>.
> I was looking for "background music" to accompany
> screensavers.
> I converted a lengthy *.html & images to a
> codec-*.bmp animation.
> there was a *.mid file of christmas music w/ the
> original & I
> was able to incorporate it into the animation, also.
> 
> I'm not absolutely certain that a *.mod is much
> different from a
> *.mid... I think it seems to follow the same set of
> rules.  If
> you would like, I'll send you the files I'm getting
> off my 486
> for Ulli - several *.mod files & a player.
> 
> I was never able to contact the author - he's in
> South Aftica
> on fidonet.  I haven't seen or heard anything more
> from or about
> him in several years.
> <G>
> TomR.

Greets Tom:

There is a tad of difference between a .MID file and
a .MOD file.

Most .MOD files are identified with the characteristic
music author screaming at the top of his lungs into
the microphone to record it for his music.  :)

That's not too far from the truth.  MOD files are
composed of a script file that play little .WAV
files at different pitches and speeds, and with
more complex .MODs, sometimes only partially,
sparse, or near the end of the selected .WAV file.

Because can include human speech as well as
synthesized
musical instruments.  Most MODs really don't sound too
grand.  :)  Now, that's not to say you won't find
some really good ones, you just have to look for them.

Probably Crystal Heart is an example of the best
.MOD file.  It's in .XM format which is merely an
extension of .MOD.  Mod can play up to 4 instruments
or .WAV files at a time, and .XM can do up to 32.

.MID files are different in the fact that they
"rarely" include any instrument data in them.  That
is, they rely entirely upon the computer's own
MIDI drivers to supply the instruments to play,
which is why you don't hear human speech, and most
MIDI (if played onna really cheapo computer) is
going to sound like one buzzzz after another;
not good.  :)

The advantage of .MODs over .MIDs is that they sound
the same level no matter what.  This is really good
for older computers that may not even be capable of
running Win3.1.  MID files rely on their sounding
good through the MIDI cards in the computers
(and generally the amount of money you shell out
for them)  :)

For those of you unfamiliar with your computer's
MIDI capability, I'd like to offer this easy
example which just =MAY= increase the MIDI quality
in your own MIDI player by a tenfold !

You may want to print out below or cut with a pair
of virtual scissors !  ___ 8< ___ >8 ___

[CTRL] [ESC], press [Up] until you are at Settings,
hit the [Right] arrow key once, select Control Panel,
hit [ENTER].

Using the arrow keys, [Up] [Down] [Left] & [Right]
move your highlighter until it is over Multimedia.
Hit [ENTER].

Tap [SHIFT] [TAB] once and tap the [Right] arrow key
until you are over MIDI.

Now, you might see something that looks kinna like
this:

AWE64G MIDI Out [330]
AWE64G MIDI Synth [640]
Creative Music Synth [240]

Now, if you don't doodle in your computer to make it
run really well, shame on you, especially if your
"Creative Music Synth" is selected, this is very
buzzy and sounds awful.

Move it over one of the other ones.  You don't have
to have an exact list like I've got, but shoot for
a bigger # in your square [] brackets and make sure
it doesn't have the word "Out" as part of it.
You'll get silence instead of MIDI music otherwise.

Now, fire up a MIDI !  Easiest example,
[CTRL] [ESC], select Programs. [Right]
Accessories. [Right]
Entertainment. [Right]
Media Player. [ENTER]

Open up a file with it, there should be a few samples
in the default directory.  And =SEE= or, as the case
might be =LISTEN= to see if there is a difference !

And spend more time quirking your computer !
That's what the [CTRL] [ALT] [DEL] is for !  :)

Sincerely,
David W.
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List Member "Andras Szalay" <a.szalay@mail.matav.hu> wrote:
>>do you think that this programs of convert wav > mid would work with sources 
>>having more than one instrument ? For example a recording of a guitar, piano, 
>>bass and drums ? 
No, certainly not. Theoretically it is not impossible, but the state of the art 
today is that you can be happy if you get usable results from a clean,
monophonic .wav. Just like you mentioned the sheet -> MIDI conversions,
generally the reliability is very bad; although, I believe sheet -> MIDI is still
much simpler.

>You wrote:
>>You can find some shareware programs that do *.wav to *.mid
>>conversion, but none of them tries to figure out itself what the input
>>instrument is, this is left to the user.
>>>>>> could you tell me how I can find one of them to try it ?

I downloaded demo versions from the web, but I cannot remember 
neither the site nor the program name. I will ask a friend of mine
who knows these better, but he will be back only middle of next week.

>>Could you please inform me about your progress in this wav->mid-things ? It 
>>sounds quite interesting to me what you are doing ! 
My designs use a special hex pickup, one for each string separately
(like all other MIDI guitar synthesizers). So, it is basically six mono
converters in a box, mixing their outputs together as a MIDI stream.
My first designs in the 80s used a lot of analog preprocessing, and
a Z80; the first generation of the new, neural net based devices used
two Transputers, and the last one runs with a MIPS RISC processor.
These are of course based on fully digital processing.

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:


--- Dale Bryant <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com>
> wrote:
> On the GFAWHELP web site.
> 
> MARKMIDI.ZIP by Mark Feaver - you will love this 
> one. Mark is a GFA midi
> master.-GFA16
> source is included and a great graphic screen
> BIGTEXT.ZIP also by Mark - In the Utilities section
> no source.
> GFANL165.ZIP GFA 16 News Letter with code
> GB32N015.ZIP GFA 32 News Letter with code.

Greets Dale:

Hey !  You've done a lotta nice work on your GFAPage !
I =JUST= now turned on pictures because I lost track
of how to get to your GFA16.  You also mentioned my
favorite vegetable, MIDI above so I'm definitely
going to want to check all this out.  Kudos on a
really well done page !

You've got icons for US, Updated, Apple, NEW!, a
and a British flag I think.  It's a shame the net
is so slow or I'd turn on pictures all the time.

Sincerely,
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:


--- Tom Record
<tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> At 07:35 PM 08/02/00 -0800, you wrote:
> >List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> David, et.al.
> Sorry.  Cleaned this up a tad, then zipped.  As is,
> will list only
> dirs it finds in c:\windows\.  If you don't have
> that location for
> your windows dir, alter the line to suit or add
> GetSystemDir.
> 
> This doesn't list to screen, but you can unREM one
> line toward the 
> bottom & make it list to screen, too.  It just takes
> a long time on
> a large HD to do this way.
> 
> This isn't mine, originally - I just modified
> something I found a long
> time ago.
> <G>
> TomR.

No problem there Tom, Thanks !
And when I wrote Orbs of Ankhar years ago I
"borrowed" the technique Ultima I used back then,
which is now forever in use today to plot tile
graphics.  And I suspect strongly Ultima probably
borrowed their idea from another different game
back then.  :)

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--- Tom Record
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> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Errr, more specific, please.  Which *.dlls?  nviewl,
> wecj, MS...
> <G>
> TomR.
> 
> 
> At 07:28 PM 08/02/00 -0800, you wrote:
> >List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >--- Tom Record
> ><tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> >> List Member Tom Record
> >> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net>
> wrote:
> >> Has anybody seen source code for converting *.wav
> to
> >> *.mid?
> >> For that matter, from *.wav to *.mod?  A *.mod
> >> player?
> >> 
> >> Either format makes a much smaller file than
> *.wav.
> >> <G>
> >> TomR.
> >
> >Greets Tom:
> >
> >Actually, I'd be interested in any program that
> >can do conversions of that sort, with or without
> >source code.  :)
> >
> >Okay people, I actually found some legitimate work,
> >(who woulda thunk it!) So I may be outta pocket at
> >least till Saturday.  I'll come in occasionally and
> >kibitz if I can, but if not you know where to find
> >me.  Vector Text is going to get a bit of a face
> >lift.  I'd forgotten I can do a kinna metallic
> >sheen like I did in Crystal Waves soo it needs to
> >do it to !
> >
> >Regarding this really good .GIF/.JPG/.BMP
> >readers & writers, please let me know of the .DLL
> >and I'll check them out too !
> >
> >Sincerely,
> >David W.

Well now Tom if I knew the names of them, I wouldn't
be asking for them.  :)

The .DLLs or whatever magic it takes to convert
.WAVs to .MID or .MODs to .MID or both
(yes I'm greedy today!) (But I'll share with everyone
else)

Sincerely,
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List Member UlliStemmeler@t-online.de (Ulli Stemmeler) wrote:
Hi Dale,

I can't find the mentioned news letters GB32N015.ZIP and GFANL165.ZIP. Where are 
they ?
Just let me know !

the MARKMIDI.ZIP-Demo is really nice, but on my system it's running too fast 
(any midi-file runs at least with triple tempo). Maybe this depends on the 
processors-speed ? (I have a 300 mhz AMD). And I had several system crashs while 
running the program. Who knows why...

Greetings,

Ulli


Dale Bryant schrieb:
List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
On the GFAWHELP web site.

MARKMIDI.ZIP by Mark Feaver - you will love this  one. Mark is a GFA midi
master.-GFA16
source is included and a great graphic screen
BIGTEXT.ZIP also by Mark - In the Utilities section
no source.
GFANL165.ZIP GFA 16 News Letter with code
GB32N015.ZIP GFA 32 News Letter with code.

Coming Tomorrow - 02/09/00
Organizer.zip by Michal Sejfried

Dale




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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
HI Ulli,
Click on LETTERS
Select
GFA16
OR
GFA32
Both should be at the end of their respective pages. I Hope(G)
I will check it in a few miniutes to be sure.

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> List Member UlliStemmeler@t-online.de (Ulli Stemmeler) wrote:
> Hi Dale,
>
> I can't find the mentioned news letters GB32N015.ZIP and GFANL165.ZIP.
Where are
> they ?
> Just let me know !
>
> the MARKMIDI.ZIP-Demo is really nice, but on my system it's running too
fast
> (any midi-file runs at least with triple tempo). Maybe this depends on the
> processors-speed ? (I have a 300 mhz AMD). And I had several system crashs
while
> running the program. Who knows why...
>
> Greetings,
>
> Ulli
>
>
> Dale Bryant schrieb:
> List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> On the GFAWHELP web site.
>
> MARKMIDI.ZIP by Mark Feaver - you will love this  one. Mark is a GFA midi
> master.-GFA16
> source is included and a great graphic screen
> BIGTEXT.ZIP also by Mark - In the Utilities section
> no source.
> GFANL165.ZIP GFA 16 News Letter with code
> GB32N015.ZIP GFA 32 News Letter with code.
>
> Coming Tomorrow - 02/09/00
> Organizer.zip by Michal Sejfried
>
> Dale
>
>
>
>
> Dale Bryant
> http://gfawhelp.gfa.net
> adbryant@msn.com
> adbryant@gfa.net
>
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--- Ulli Stemmeler <UlliStemmeler@t-online.de> wrote:
> List Member UlliStemmeler@t-online.de (Ulli
> Stemmeler) wrote:
> Hi Dale,
> 
> I can't find the mentioned news letters GB32N015.ZIP
> and GFANL165.ZIP. Where are 
> they ?
> Just let me know !
> 
> the MARKMIDI.ZIP-Demo is really nice, but on my
> system it's running too fast 
> (any midi-file runs at least with triple tempo).
> Maybe this depends on the 
> processors-speed ? (I have a 300 mhz AMD). And I had
> several system crashs while 
> running the program. Who knows why...

Greets Uli:

This is one of the main reasons I don't like to
use all kinds of nasty machine-language stuff.

You can use MCI$ along with MCISEQ.DRV to play MIDIs
just right.  It uses Windows 98 driver stuff and is
really easy to use !  I've run it on my Dad's
computer,
he's got a 320mhz Penti-Overlord or something.  :)
It plays great !

There's an example file I wrote called:
MIDI&WAV on Dale Bryant's homepage along with a lot
of other good audio thingamajigs!
http://www.gfawhelp.gfa.net

Hope This Helps !

Sincerely,
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ORGANIZER.ZIP - avilable on the GFA16 download page later today is by
Peter Sejfried and not Micha
Sorry that the earlier UPDATE was incorrect.
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
OK, Lets' get it all together. Lets' get organized.
UPDATE on the GFA16 File Download page.
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ORGANIZE.ZIP by David Wicker.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "David Wicker" <dw817@yahoo.com>
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I just downloaded the GFANL165  and the GB32N015 so theyare both there.
I have run Marks' midi program numerous times with NO problems.
I have a Pentium 2 at 233 MHZ


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>
>
> --- Ulli Stemmeler <UlliStemmeler@t-online.de> wrote:
> > List Member UlliStemmeler@t-online.de (Ulli
> > Stemmeler) wrote:
> > Hi Dale,
> >
> > I can't find the mentioned news letters GB32N015.ZIP
> > and GFANL165.ZIP. Where are
> > they ?
> > Just let me know !
> >
> > the MARKMIDI.ZIP-Demo is really nice, but on my
> > system it's running too fast
> > (any midi-file runs at least with triple tempo).
> > Maybe this depends on the
> > processors-speed ? (I have a 300 mhz AMD). And I had
> > several system crashs while
> > running the program. Who knows why...
>
> Greets Uli:
>
> This is one of the main reasons I don't like to
> use all kinds of nasty machine-language stuff.
>
> You can use MCI$ along with MCISEQ.DRV to play MIDIs
> just right.  It uses Windows 98 driver stuff and is
> really easy to use !  I've run it on my Dad's
> computer,
> he's got a 320mhz Penti-Overlord or something.  :)
> It plays great !
>
> There's an example file I wrote called:
> MIDI&WAV on Dale Bryant's homepage along with a lot
> of other good audio thingamajigs!
> http://www.gfawhelp.gfa.net
>
> Hope This Helps !
>
> Sincerely,
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:


--- Dale Bryant <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com>
> wrote:
> OK, Lets' get it all together. Lets' get organized.
> UPDATE on the GFA16 File Download page.
> \
> ORGANIZE.ZIP by David Wicker.
> Dale

Hello !  I just wanted to thank all my adoring fans
out there, Mom can you see me!  I'm on Net-TV !

Well, Dale, I must honestly admit the Organize is
one amazing program.  I wrote it with nearly no
effort at all.  In fact, I don't remember putting
any effort into it.  In fact, I don't remember writing
it...

Hummmm....  (Guess I better download it).
Interesting.  Peter Sejfried.

That's not me.

Close only counts in Horseshoes and Hand Grenades
Captain !  Try again !  :)

Sincerely,
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
ORGANIZE.ZIP was written by Perter  Sejfried. Please take a look at it.
David, you get to work on some more graphic stuff
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Well, stupidity strikes a gain
In error I credited ORGANIZE.ZIP to David Wicker.
My apologies to Peter Sejfried who is the correct programmer
Don't miss it.
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I have corrected the ORGANIZE.ZIP programmer credit to Peter Sejfried.
I also returned all the money that David Wicker sent me for putting his name
on it.(G)
Sorry David, just wasn't enough.(G)
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
@ImportFilterInit
FILESELECT "*.jpg;*.gif","",nfil$ /* added, TomR.
Return& = @ImportFilter(WIN(1),"imgimp.flt",nfil$) /* changed, TomR.
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A single image import filter w/ different names!  Change the name to something
generic (as above) & it'll load w/ either *.dll.  For some reason, if the names
are retained containing an image type, it takes BOTH!

Am therefore playing w/ the idea of having a scad of other formats to use!
These are originally HALO modules... I have a ton of them!  These are the
modules that handle images in memory as metafiles.  Metafiles can be rotated
in memory very quickly... anybody have an idea how it's done?  The little I
understand indicates that Windows does it by API but I have no idea how to 
make it happen.  Sure would be handy knowledge!

Now... wanna make these things work w/ your images w/o having the images 
loose in, say, c:\windows ?  put'em ALL in a subdir... images, image.dlls,
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FILESELECT "subdir\*.jpg;*.gif","",nfil$ !  Works like a champ!!!
<G>
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Hi Everybody, here Peter.


I open dialog box and I want to set it always on top. If Gfabasic =
application is an active window then it works correct - dialog shows on =
top, but if another application is opened - for example 'Microsoft =
Internet Explorer'  - dialog box appears under it. Could you help me to =
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42810730@pro.onet.pl

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List Member Vogel Michael <vo@schoeller.at> wrote:

Hi, 

if dbManager runs on 16-Bit Windows I would do testing if you like... 

Regards,
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> Betreff: 	[gfabasic] DbManagr
> 
> List Member Pat Bullman <pbullman@norex.com.au> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Over the last 12 months, I've been developing a data storage system in my
> spare time, which I'm almost finished.  The system, called DbManagr, is
> fairly basic and only allows for the creation of a database, Tables and
> Fields and storage of records.  Also it only works for fixed length
> records
> but in testing has handled 200,000 records.  In theory each table of data
> should be able to hold millions of records.  All data is stored in one
> file.  The system allows for new fields to be inserted or deleted in a
> table without the loss of data in other fields.
> 
> I intend building in record indexing, which hopefully will be completed by
> about Easter.
> 
> What I'm after is a volunteer (or two) to test out the system.  Tom Record
> has tried to help but DbManagr refuses to work for him, yet it appears to
> work fine on my two systems.  So the first issue is to see if DbManagr
> will
> work on someone else's equipment.
> 
> After getting it running, I would also appreciate feedback on the system,
> like comments on its functionality, performance etc. 
> 
> The source code will be provided, together with some documentation and two
> very simple demo programs.
> 
> I've developed this thing part-time over the last few months and it shows
> the effects of being picked up, worked on and left for weeks before being
> touched again.  Ideally, a lot of code should be consolidated, but at the
> moment I'm just happy it appears to work fairly quickly (for me anyway!)
> and the DLL is quite small.
> 
> Anyone interested?
> 
> 
> Pat
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List Member "Russell Hayward" <russ@softhome.net> wrote:

Hi Peter,

>>>>>>>
I open dialog box and I want to set it always on top. If Gfabasic
application is an active window then it works correct - dialog shows on top,
but if another application is opened - for example 'Microsoft Internet
Explorer'  - dialog box appears under it. Could you help me to open window
always on top.
<<<<<<<

I remember struggling with this one for a while myself, here's how you do
it:

~SetWindowPos(DLG([NUMBER]),-1,0,0,0,0,SWP_NOSIZE | SWP_NOMOVE)

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:


--- Dale Bryant <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com>
> wrote:
> ORGANIZE.ZIP was written by Perter  Sejfried. Please
> take a look at it.
> David, you get to work on some more graphic stuff
> Dale

Yazzum boss!  :)

Okay, for those of you who have had headaches with
the HIDEM and SHOWM for HideMouse and ShowMouse, I
found something interesting.

Use:
REPEAT
UNTIL SHOWCURSOR(0)<0

Use this =ONLY= to hide the mouse.  Yes, it's
strange, you don't use the HIDEM command at all.

Use:
REPEAT
UNTIL SHOWCURSOR(1)>=0

To show the mouse.  Once again, you don't use the
SHOWM command here either.

Credit goes to Russell Hayward for showing me the
SHOWCURSOR command, but the HIDEM & SHOWM ?
Do you not need them at all ?

Vector is coming along =MARVELOUSLY= now that I can
hide the mouse and use my own pointer to track
vectors, and, as near as I can tell, the techniques
above work perfectly every time for any window !

I'll be out of pocket at Dad's today.
Oh !  And the work I did ?  About 21 pages of
typing in 4 hours, $50.  Very nice !

Sincerely,
David W.

Dale, please send me a private Email thingie on
the include photo, and stuff.  I'll go ahead and
add myself to the list of GFA Elite if you'll
let me.  :)
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
I *think* this should be addressed to Ulli, but I'm having trouble
finding things 'cause I'm pretty doped up for a 5-hr procedure on
my heart in the morning.  Please forgive, Andras, if it should be
you.

Got winamp.exe & files installed in my wave dir.  Cute li'l bugger,
& I MEAN LITTLE!  I run 640x480@16-bit.  That must be no larger than
a postage stamp at a higher resolution <G>.

Runs just fine, but I have to learn more about the equalizer to get it
to work.  *Says* it can play *.mod, but I don't have any on this 'puter.

Volume control appears to max out at what ever the 'puter's volume control
is set to.  For me, this is OK... I keep the volume quite low most of the
time so I don't disturbe the wife or neighbors when I go online at night.

Ok... nuff on this, per se.  I see that if I want to include audio with
my screensavers, I'd best stick to *.wav.  At least these can be poked
into a *.res that can be LNKed into my *.exe or even a *.dll.  MOST systems
should have minimal audio.

Something new on the horizon... I found an appl that claims to be able to
insert *.gif & *.jpg into resource areas of *.exe & *.dll.  Got a big yen
to try this.  I've been holding back on a lot of things because the only
website I had that would accept screensavers w/ girlie shows has a 172K/file
download limit.  I am not fond of having to make a user download a bunch of 
files to make one appl function.  I found another last night w/ no download
restrictions _&_ 50M storeage.  A bunch of these savers are approaching the
1M combined file size.

For anybody interested... Roland's import filter/*.dll routines..... The
import filter(s) are all one!  By naming the format accepted in it's own
filename, it is restricted to looking for/at *that* *.dll.  What Roland
has is claimed by MS, but internally, it says that it is HALO.  So......
If you have any Dr.HALO products, you have more formats available to you!
The trick... rename the filter something generic... NO format extension 
in it's name.  It'll read internal IDs & plug in the proper *.dll.

Eventually, I'll get around to seeing if I can add PhotoCD & several more
formats to it's capability.  There are 20 or so HALO *.dlls that are dedicated
to a single image format.  There are others that handle cropping, saving,
editing, etc.

Internally, it claims 7 formats (actually, it's virtually unlimited <G>).
IFFTRIF (*.rif?), IFFTIFF (*.tif), IFFPCX (*.pcx), IFFBMP (*.bmp), IFFGIF
(*.gif, both 87a & 89a), IFFJPEG (*.jpg), & IFFTGA (*.tga).  OK, the trick:
You can change the extension on all images to what ever suits you.  As long
as you set things up properly, you can fake propriatary formats <G>.  If you
want to use *.gif, whatever you change the extension to is what you call for.
It'll look inside for the true ID.

There are several *.bmp formats.  This will handle all but codec-compressed.
There are at least 2 *.jpg formats... *.jif & *.jpg.  Both have JIFF for an
internal ID.  *.tif... haven't tackeled this to see which formats it'll handle
& which it won't.  FAX is one type that is 1-bit compressed.  RIFF is something
I haven't played with much, but I DO know one is an image & another is a *.wav.

The last version of changes I posted for Roland's routine does NOT insist that
the *.flt & *.dll be in the same subdir w/ the images themselves.  There, or 
in the appl's home dir is OK.  The format of the call I gave is capable of 
reading images from anywhere else, but they should be in the same subdir to
make it easier (NOT have to make several versions of the call).

Eberhard is working on the GFA-W(16) calls to wecjlib.dll for me.  This comes
in 2 flavors.  It's a *.jpg reader/writer.  The freebie version is about 30K
smaller than the full version.  ECJ went out of business in 1994/95, so I
am supposing that even the full version is available for use.  It has some
more editing capability than the limited freebie has.  When Eberhard has them
worked out, we'll make'em publick on the list & to Dale for his glorious mess.

I still don't have a sorking metafile conversion working.  Brent's routines
seem like they should make it easy, but..... !  If I can ever get it coupled
with Roland's routine, we'll have 10 or so formats we can convert between 
using the HALO *.dlls.  Now, to see if we can use'em freely.

The Codiene is catching up with me, so I'm gone for now.  I hope what I've
been rambling on about is usefull to somebody.
<G>
TomR.

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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Organize by Peter Sejfried has been
Revamped
Rewritten
Re-done
and
Reorganized

Download
ORGANIZE.ZIP
And all will be OK.

Dale Bryant
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--- Dale Bryant <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
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> I have corrected the ORGANIZE.ZIP programmer credit
> to Peter Sejfried.
> I also returned all the money that David Wicker sent
> me for putting his name
> on it.(G)
> Sorry David, just wasn't enough.(G)
> Dale

Awww man!  How about if I throw in this roller-skate
key !  You don't find them like THIS anymore !  :)

Sincerely,
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> The Codiene is catching up with me, so I'm gone for
> now.  I hope what I've

> been rambling on about is usefull to somebody.
> <G>
> TomR.

I couldn't follow too much of it.  Sorry you're having
problems in the hospital.  Next time have them take
a picture of you in your hospital gown and your
plastic ID bracelet and send that in !  :)

Sincerely,
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Naw, guess not, Davie.  I have a tendency to "flash" in those things.
A feller has to get what fun he can out of any situation.
<G>
TomR.

At 05:47 PM 11/02/00 -0800, you wrote:
>List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> The Codiene is catching up with me, so I'm gone for
>> now.  I hope what I've
>
>> been rambling on about is usefull to somebody.
>> <G>
>> TomR.
>
>I couldn't follow too much of it.  Sorry you're having
>problems in the hospital.  Next time have them take
>a picture of you in your hospital gown and your
>plastic ID bracelet and send that in !  :)
>
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
UPDATES TODAY!
CATHEDRL.ZIP by David Wicker-nice graphics
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
SHELL "filename"
SHELL ""

dosutils.zip (189K)

APPBK.COM                                         06/14/1987 12:30:28     1712
ASC.COM                                           02/08/1986 14:59:08     1169
ATSIZE.COM                                        10/14/1986 08:21:00      640
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CHKLIST.MS                                        24/11/1993 10:10:56     2241
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DELZ.COM                                          01/02/1980 00:10:42      657
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EGA25.COM                                         06/14/1987 17:50:50       40
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List Member "Lou Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
Hey tmass !!!!!How the heck are ya did you have surgery & what did they find
fix or take out ????????AS long as they took out your brain your safe LOL NO
just kidding arew you home ? must be they dont keep you in for love or money
anymore so if youre sick home you go !!!!!!!talk to me !!Later !!!!!!
>>>>>Lou
                                -->Bev<--









----- Original Message -----
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> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Naw, guess not, Davie.  I have a tendency to "flash" in those things.
> A feller has to get what fun he can out of any situation.
> <G>
> TomR.
>
> At 05:47 PM 11/02/00 -0800, you wrote:
> >List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> The Codiene is catching up with me, so I'm gone for
> >> now.  I hope what I've
> >
> >> been rambling on about is usefull to somebody.
> >> <G>
> >> TomR.
> >
> >I couldn't follow too much of it.  Sorry you're having
> >problems in the hospital.  Next time have them take
> >a picture of you in your hospital gown and your
> >plastic ID bracelet and send that in !  :)
> >
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Hi, Missie
you too, uglier than I am <G>

No - has snapshots taken of my heart tis time.  Dono how it works, but has
two heads on it at 90=B0 from each other.  Rotates around the patient &=
 takes
about 10-15 sec for each shot.

Screwed up royally afterward!  I started toward where we live, on foot.  It
turned colder'n hell.  I did about 4-1/2 miles in 3-1/2 hrs.  Shouldn't have
even tried that.  The calves of my legs are STILL hurtin & throbbin. =
 Finally
had to call Anna to come get me.  We have a transportaqtion problem here=
 now.
I no longer have a driver's license & Anna had to be at work just 2 hrs=
 after
my appointment.  Luci makes it understood that these major favors are=
 becoming
a thing of the past, so... I walked.  After all that, Luci wanted me to=
 bring
her boyfriend to where she works so they could leave from there to go visit=
 his
family, down in Texas.  Got told to fuck myself when I refused <G>.  There=
 is
really NO way to win w/ these two broads <G>.

Am down to 1 cigarette... already having a nicotine fit <G>.  Am freezin my=
 ass
now & I want to go sit in a tub of hot water.
<G>
TomR.


At 08:58 PM 12/02/00 -0500, you wrote:
>List Member "Lou Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
>Hey tmass !!!!!How the heck are ya did you have surgery & what did they=
 find
>fix or take out ????????AS long as they took out your brain your safe LOL=
 NO
>just kidding arew you home ? must be they dont keep you in for love or=
 money
>anymore so if youre sick home you go !!!!!!!talk to me !!Later !!!!!!
>>>>>>Lou
>                                -->Bev<--
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>> Naw, guess not, Davie.  I have a tendency to "flash" in those things.
>> A feller has to get what fun he can out of any situation.
>> <G>
>> TomR.
>>
>> At 05:47 PM 11/02/00 -0800, you wrote:
>> >List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >> The Codiene is catching up with me, so I'm gone for
>> >> now.  I hope what I've
>> >
>> >> been rambling on about is usefull to somebody.
>> >> <G>
>> >> TomR.
>> >
>> >I couldn't follow too much of it.  Sorry you're having
>> >problems in the hospital.  Next time have them take
>> >a picture of you in your hospital gown and your
>> >plastic ID bracelet and send that in !  :)
>> >
>> >Sincerely,
>> >David W.
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
To All:
In about one hour I am gong to make available for download a program written
by David Wicker. The name is BIT8TO7.ZIP and I think it is amazing. I also
think that you will too. Tom Record,  take a look at this.
Dale

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:


--- Tom Record
<tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Naw, guess not, Davie.  I have a tendency to "flash"
> in those things.
> A feller has to get what fun he can out of any
> situation.
> <G>
> TomR.

Huumm..  Not that so much..  I've been in the hospital
so many times I thought the bracelet that put on you
is really neat !  I used to collect them but I lost
them years ago.  Ah well.

Sincerely,
David W.
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
BIT8TO7.ZIP is now available.  Don't let the name lead you astray. This is
one amazing program!
Dale

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:


--- Dale Bryant <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com>
> wrote:
> BIT8TO7.ZIP is now available.  Don't let the name
> lead you astray. This is
> one amazing program!
> Dale

That good huum ??  :)  I guess I get to keep my
roller-skate key after all.  Okay, well Dale I'm
poking around now turning pictures on and stuff in
your homepage and there's a lot to see !  I see how
the BIOs are done.  I didn't know my stuff would get
all truncated.  Which is fine, I kinna went out on a
limb anyways I need to save that for my psych.

Okee, I'm going to put something smaller together.
I see GIFLOAD and all kinds of stuff.

I just need to OPEN my eyes more (O)(O) there's a
lot out there.  I'll put in a normal picture too.
When I went in the bios earlier and I didn't see
any pictures of people (because I had pix turned off)
I thought no-one wanted to show themselves so I'd
hide behind a little costume.  I can see it now
not needing to be done.  Okay!

I'll mention my asphyxiation (fixation?) with Anime
too.  :)

Sincerely,
David W.


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--- Dale Bryant <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com>
> wrote:
> BIT8TO7.ZIP is now available.  Don't let the name
> lead you astray. This is
> one amazing program!
> Dale

Regarding the .GIF loader, Dale ?

Acch, >blerrchh, koff, Excuse me as I pick my brains
off the floor.  That is =WAY= too complex to follow !
I'm certain it's sterling work from Mr. Findlay, but I
like to work with stuff I can understand.

(I think you believe now that I'm as lazy as I said
 I was)  :)

Also, I like to have one routine all by itself do the
main thing it was assigned.  FREEFILE that I use is
small and can obviously be used for other tasks so I
wrote it as a module.  I could have just as easily
not written it and forced File # 254 & # 255 which
would work just as easily and chances are good any
routines from other modules would not use these file
handles provided you don't use them in other modules.

When I worked with Edward Schlunder's original .MOD
player QBASIC source code.  It was broken down to no
less than =10= different SUBPROGRAMS !

Aieee !!

I spent months cramming and coding it into one
SUBPROGRAM so I could:

PLAYMOD "" ' <-- stop the music
' If a piece is playing, STOP it, CLOSE IT, FREEMOD
               ' If no music is being played there
               ' is no effect and no memory pointers
               ' are used up or required

PLAYMOD F$ ' <-- start the music
               ' if a piece was already playing
               ' then STOP it, CLOSE IT, FREEMOD,
               ' OPEN this new MOD and PLAY it
               ' immediately

You see how 1 routine can do the work of 10 easily ?

^ A really =GOOD= programming language would clean
  up after everything, including BITMAPs you may
  have opened.  <HINT!>  :)  So you wouldn't even
  need to use FREEMOD or FREEBMP in a system that
  cleans up any memory pointers you shift around.

Okay, gotta repeat myself.

If someone knows an =EASY= and by easy folks I mean
maybe no more than 10 lines tops or so to load in a
nice .GIF or .JPG to a GFABasic Window, well, I think
everyone here would like to see that.

Also, if you think my coding is fat, take out the
gazillion remarks I put in there.  :)
Here is Bit8To7 without the remarks.  Tiny stuff !

[enclosed]

Remember Dale, most of us, anyway, are limited to
1,000 programming lines and we like to SQUEEEEEEZE
out as much as we can with as little coding as we can.
:)

ToData . . [31 lines]
FromData . [17 lines]
FREEFILE . [ 5 lines]

BunyGirl Data cheats because it spans 240 char.
across so I'm not counting it.  :)

Will stick with compressed bitmaps for now tho.  :/

Yaas I'm fussy because I'm playing Lunar on the
Playstation and I keep getting eaten by this Dragon so
I have to take it out on you.  (Smile)

Sincerely,
David W.
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Anime...  What type do you like?  One of the better sites
requires that you have AdultCheck to get in.
<G>
TomR.



At 06:15 PM 13/02/00 -0800, you wrote:
>List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>
>--- Dale Bryant <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
>> List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com>
>> wrote:
>> BIT8TO7.ZIP is now available.  Don't let the name
>> lead you astray. This is
>> one amazing program!
>> Dale
>
>That good huum ??  :)  I guess I get to keep my
>roller-skate key after all.  Okay, well Dale I'm
>poking around now turning pictures on and stuff in
>your homepage and there's a lot to see !  I see how
>the BIOs are done.  I didn't know my stuff would get
>all truncated.  Which is fine, I kinna went out on a
>limb anyways I need to save that for my psych.
>
>Okee, I'm going to put something smaller together.
>I see GIFLOAD and all kinds of stuff.
>
>I just need to OPEN my eyes more (O)(O) there's a
>lot out there.  I'll put in a normal picture too.
>When I went in the bios earlier and I didn't see
>any pictures of people (because I had pix turned off)
>I thought no-one wanted to show themselves so I'd
>hide behind a little costume.  I can see it now
>not needing to be done.  Okay!
>
>I'll mention my asphyxiation (fixation?) with Anime
>too.  :)
>
>Sincerely,
>David W.
>
>
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Yeah, I Yahoo! a bit... they have a very good FREE ISP w/ only one real
anoyance... that little (snort) control panel you have to put up with.

The hospital garb... I used to like to con a nurse out of a 2nd one &
a metal coathanger.  I'd hang the Foley bag on it & hook it into the
sleave on the inside, making it appear I wasn't any longer tied to the
bed frame w/ a piece of silicon surgical tubing.  Drove the nurses all
nuts.  W/ one on properly & the other on backwards, it looks like you're
free & ambulatory.  I forgot that thing the first time & got up to go 
to the toilet & the shriek brought 10 or 12 people running!  I thought 
I'd just left ol' LeRoy hangin on the bed along w/ half my guts!  When
the tubing stops stretching, you stop moving away in a hurry!

The bracelet... they put so many on me here I try to find ways to unhook'em.
<G>
TomR.



At 05:18 PM 13/02/00 -0800, you wrote:
>List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>--- Tom Record
><tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> List Member Tom Record
>> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> Naw, guess not, Davie.  I have a tendency to "flash"
>> in those things.
>> A feller has to get what fun he can out of any
>> situation.
>> <G>
>> TomR.
>
>Huumm..  Not that so much..  I've been in the hospital
>so many times I thought the bracelet that put on you
>is really neat !  I used to collect them but I lost
>them years ago.  Ah well.
>
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List Member "John Findlay" <John.Findlay@Byte-it.net> wrote:
Pat,


> List Member Pat Bullman <pbullman@norex.com.au> wrote:
> Does anyone have some basic code which demostrates how to use 'skip-lists'
> indexing.  I don't care what version of basic it is (even GFA32).

This might help. It wasn't done for database stuff but it skips
things.

You could introduce SEEK/RELSEEK to move on to the next block.

    '===================================================
    ' Skip unwanted blocks until the one with SizeOfData is valid.
    ' Then load the resource into lpBuff.
    '===================================================
    While !SizeOfData
      BGet # 1, *SizeOfData, 4         ' Block header (may be zero)
      BGet # 1, *BlockSize, 4          ' Next dword for offset to next block
      BGet # 1, lpBuff, BlockSize - 8  ' Load in blocksize -8
      If SizeOfData
        BGet # 1, lpBuff, SizeOfData   ' Then load data into memory
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List Member "John Findlay" <John.Findlay@Byte-it.net> wrote:
David,

> Regarding the .GIF loader, Dale ?
> If someone knows an =EASY= and by easy folks I mean
> maybe no more than 10 lines tops or so to load in a
> nice .GIF or .JPG to a GFABasic Window, well, I think
> everyone here would like to see that.

Would one line suit you?

As I see it you have three options;

get yourself GB32

put that gifloader into a dll and any other routines you want out of the way

use win32 API call - Russell can should you how to use LoadImage() from
GFA16

> Also, if you think my coding is fat, take out the
> gazillion remarks I put in there.  :)
> Here is Bit8To7 without the remarks.  Tiny stuff !

We need the REM's to be able to understand it David.


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--- John Findlay <John.Findlay@Byte-it.net> wrote:
> List Member "John Findlay"
> <John.Findlay@Byte-it.net> wrote:
> David,
> 
> > Regarding the .GIF loader, Dale ?
> > If someone knows an =EASY= and by easy folks I
> mean
> > maybe no more than 10 lines tops or so to load in
> a
> > nice .GIF or .JPG to a GFABasic Window, well, I
> think
> > everyone here would like to see that.
> 
> Would one line suit you?

Yes !!  (You were waiting for that weren't you ?)  :)

> 
> As I see it you have three options;
> 
> get yourself GB32

I haven't used the GFA32 thingie yet.  The 200 line
limit kinna curbs my enthusiasm.  :/

> 
> put that gifloader into a dll and any other routines
> you want out of the way

Nonono..  I mean, well, yes, I can do this, but then
we're all falling into the trap of C++ programming
where you have DLLs inside DLLs and nobody knows what
anybody wrote anymore and the only way to get a
source code to work is to either include every single
DLL in the download (Gee, this must be where megabyte
downloads come from!) :)  or know that the people
who are going to read & enjoy the source code already
have the DLLs and inclusion stuff.

I wrote Bit8To7 because of my extreme dislike to
include any files with source code.  I guess true
data files and pictures are okay, but if I start
getting into DLLs, I see a lot of problems ahead
for me, especially if I have to debug it later.  :/

I'm toying with Vector because in the future, I'd
like to see not just me but maybe some other people
write some things that allow you do amazing and
wonderful things with DATA statements.  In this,
you can have really powerful programs that are
all self-contained in source code, do not require
DLLs, and =CAN= be compiled entirely by themselves
without requesting, requiring, suggesting, demanding,
pleading, hassling, or even inquiring about DLLs,
TPUs, QLBs or LIBs.  Agghh !  It's gone on too long
I'm losing my mind over it !  :)

Okay.  A good example, ASCII has put out a fully
working RPG Generator.  Remember, that's a system
that allows you to make your own role-playing games.
The disadvantage is, it allows the end user to
create, include, and make use of additional bitmap
files, .WAV files, and .MID files.  Now this may not
seem like such a serious crime, but when you go to
download just one of the games written in this
outstanding RPG Generator.  It's gonna be about 2 or
3 megs and that's just plain ridiculous !  If you look
to see why, ASCII saves off =ALL= the bitmap files,
all the MIDI music, all the map structures, and
really complex script stuff that should be locked in
bronze and not saved individually for every game !
That's a really big no no in my book.

Okay, a better way.  ASCII years before this made
one for the Super Nintendo called RPG2E.  Now you
can only save 16384 bytes for a saved game for the
Super Nintendo.  In this, ASCII had a fine selection
of about 32 background music pieces, 256 sprites,
multiple map layers and tiles, and preformed script
command creation.  The advantage ?  Any game that
was written under =THIS= system was max no bigger than
16384 bytes !  And that allowed for over 100 rooms
spanning 75x75, up to 3,000 script types and examples,
etc.  Naturally the games made with them used the
"library" that the system came with.  But, because the
library was so diverse, intelligently layed out,
and carefully planned, it worked.  The games people
made with RPG2E were exciting, interesting, very
portable, and much easier to write games in then
the current RPG95 which requires you to lay out
several
definitions without using a wizard, helper,
assistance,
template, default, or generic lay out.  You =MUST=
define everything.  There are no defaults or
"samples" to work with.  That's just bad planning.

My task (should I choose to accept this mission)
is to generate a ridiculously simple RPG Generator,
not so much in competition against ASCII as there are
several other RPG Generators out there I would have
to contend with.  No, but to make it easy enough to
use that people can really enjoy it, and when they
save off their entire world, and I mean the whole
kit and kaboodle.  It is =NOT= a megabyte, it's
probably not even 100k, and if I get my way about it,
they'll all be under 50k !  And yes, I am one of
those programmers that counts BITs in code and
saved data.  :)  The advantage is, if it is so !
easy to use, has a very well-planned library that can
grow with the users, since each world is about 50k
I can literally have =HUNDREDS= of worlds people have
written with it.  And they can all share, enjoy, and
play in the worlds that someone somewhere many
millions of miles across the world has made.
That's neat.  I'd like to see that..  GFABasic is
powerful enough to do it.  But I must work at it
and it's not going to be easy.  :)

> 
> use win32 API call - Russell can should you how to
> use LoadImage() from
> GFA16

LoadImage would be good maybe..
I don't know..  Dad said my GFABasic is just like
Pascal except that with PASCAL, you see all the
source code for everything and you have to make it
all run together well.  Dad won't program in GFA
and has his brain stuck in Borland's Pascal !
Eyyeechh..  Let's see a show of hands out there from
those of you who know how to initialize a 320x200x256
resolution mode in Turbo Pascal !  Yaas I thought so.
:)  I'd rather have a much easier to use language
than one that's complex and you have to type a
whole bunch of lines when you know, somehow, it can
be done with just one or two.

If I had found some RPG Generator out there that
I =REALLY= liked, I may have hung up my programmer's
cape.  The main reason I program is not for the
end result, but for the results in the future of
writing some decent code that's kinna like a quartz
crystal.  I can keep building on it yet it's small
and portable enough I don't have to convert it to
libraries and stuff.  Now, if I was into
commercialware or shareware, yaas, I can kinna see the
advantage.  But I'm not, I'm trying to be - see the
magic tricks so you can perform them at home for your
own guests so I don't hide anything.  We can all
learn from this.  I have some really weird and
almost religious ideas about programming.  It's a
quirk, probably not too different from a lot of other
programmers' quirks out there.  :)

I'll try to write some decent code to make up for my
insane ramblings.  (Smile)

> 
> > Also, if you think my coding is fat, take out the
> > gazillion remarks I put in there.  :)
> > Here is Bit8To7 without the remarks.  Tiny stuff !
> 
> We need the REM's to be able to understand it David.

Really ??  I didn't know anybody actually read
remarks anymore, that's great !  Well, I'll continue
to put them in then.  Nice to see that !

Happy Valentine's Day !  You guys out there are
looking for a Black Eye or worse if you forget
to get something nice for your Wife or Girlfriend !
:)

Here is Hearts Screen-Teaser, =JUST= in time for
Valentine's Day !

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
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--- Tom Record
<tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Anime...  What type do you like?  One of the better
> sites
> requires that you have AdultCheck to get in.
> <G>
> TomR.

Greets Tom:
Well I used to be pretty good about getting all those
passwords for stuff like that, but almost none of it
was for Anime.  Nope, I'm getting it from the very
best source:

alt.binaries.. --> (fill in some truly offensive
word!)
:)

But, because I've been doing it for years, and have
carefully cropped, adjusted, shifted, crunched,
every single picture that gets into my hot little
hands, they are very well organized now.

I have tons of other categories besides Anime &
Hentai but these are my main interests.

The kind I like is the Asphyxiation.  You know,
Ass Fixation ?  :)  Included is one I rather like..

[tdiary43.jpg]

These don't PKZIP well so it's a straight out file.

I also like women wrestling stuff, especially where
they smother their opponent with their ahhm,
backsides.  :)  I've got a videotape of this I
bought years ago but there's not many pictures of it
on the net.  Ah well.

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member "John Findlay" <John.Findlay@Byte-it.net> wrote:
David,

> I haven't used the GFA32 thingie yet.  The 200 line
> limit kinna curbs my enthusiasm.  :/

Tell ya dad it's powerfull, very fast and is enjoyable too, maybe he'll
buy it and you can both use it.

I look forwrad to you RPG generator, thingy...

> Here is Hearts Screen-Teaser, =JUST= in time for
> Valentine's Day !

Ta!

Here's a poem for you;

"Driving in The Land of Faithful Enchantment"

 Driving along, in the middle, endless
 High and windswept blown earth round
 The flat'ning winds the carriage swove
 The plateau meetings calming of yore.

 Meandering pleasure, discerning entities
 Arrayed no difference, the gods were there
 Born the same, dying unchanging
 The carriage, the faithful and me.

 Foremost sounds silent within and leading
 Horizon towers and dark storm clouds
 Intoning the floods of conscious around
 Carrying all for the desert fliers.


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John





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--- John Findlay <John.Findlay@Byte-it.net> wrote:
> List Member "John Findlay"
> <John.Findlay@Byte-it.net> wrote:
> David,
> 
> > I haven't used the GFA32 thingie yet.  The 200
> line
> > limit kinna curbs my enthusiasm.  :/
> 
> Tell ya dad it's powerfull, very fast and is
> enjoyable too, maybe he'll
> buy it and you can both use it.

I don't know how much the GFA32 is, but the GFA16 is
$70 or so and he won't even do that.  Yaas, he
taught me the value of a dollar all right.  My own.
:/  Me, I'm poor as a churchmouse receiving Social
Security.  I've got some troubles in the head,
going for an MRI and Neurosurgeon and stuff like
that.  GFA16 will do nicely with the 1,000 line limit.

> 
> I look forwrad to you RPG generator, thingy...

Well don't hold your breath, John.  :)  Since I'm
now in completely unfamiliar territory (again!)
It's going to take a-while.  I've had this project
in QBasic for better than 6 years running out of
memory each time.  This will be <Lord Help Me!>
like my 14th rewrite of it !

AAaaaa !!  ! ! >Koff< aaaaaggggh ! ! ! 

> 
> "Driving in The Land of Faithful Enchantment"
> 
>  Driving along, in the middle, endless
>  High and windswept blown earth round
>  The flat'ning winds the carriage swove
>  The plateau meetings calming of yore.
> 
>  Meandering pleasure, discerning entities
>  Arrayed no difference, the gods were there
>  Born the same, dying unchanging
>  The carriage, the faithful and me.
> 
>  Foremost sounds silent within and leading
>  Horizon towers and dark storm clouds
>  Intoning the floods of conscious around
>  Carrying all for the desert fliers.

This poetry is very good !!  Is it yours original ?

I've written a ton of poetry myself, mostly for
Rose when we were together..

Oh, and here's the ultimate solution to KILL the
mouse pointer.  I know a lot of you out there have
been wanting this one too.  Give some credit to
Dale Bryant because I borrowed his:

DEFMOUSE V:Cur$

routine.

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Couldn't get into Dale's bio sect. last night, so it
appears I miss-guessed DavidW.'s age.  Sorry.
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List Member Pat Bullman <pbullman@norex.com.au> wrote:
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I have a small sample program written in 'C' showing a 'SkipList' indexing
system, it contains less than 200 lines including comments.

Is there anyone who could translate to Basic for me?  My 'C' is simply not
good enough!

The file is attached.


Pat
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Send'em... will untar'em & zip'em for you w/ WinZip.exe or
you can try usin this...
tar.zip (23.2K)
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Got into Dale's bios, finally.  Donno if I missed the age so far after all.

Frankly, I'm glad *my* dad quit the computer.  He's 86 now.  I used to
spend hours on the phone trying to troubleshoot his computer.  When I
went to Hawaii, I had a week's work waiting!  I didn't realize you could
put so many things in so many places & *still* function!

My oldest brother lets 5 grandkids play w/ his.  I finally told'im I couldn't
fix it anymore.  He lives across town from me.

Middle of winter here & the trees are budding & birds are nesting!  1 snow all
winter, NO ice storms.  Uh oh!
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr................  Seems to me I paid just less than
$500 U.S.  Where do you find it for $70 anywhere?
<F>
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At 04:41 AM 14/02/00 -0800, you wrote:
>
>
>--- John Findlay <John.Findlay@Byte-it.net> wrote:
>> List Member "John Findlay"
>> <John.Findlay@Byte-it.net> wrote:
>> David,
>> 
>> > I haven't used the GFA32 thingie yet.  The 200
>> line
>> > limit kinna curbs my enthusiasm.  :/
>> 
>> Tell ya dad it's powerfull, very fast and is
>> enjoyable too, maybe he'll
>> buy it and you can both use it.
>
>I don't know how much the GFA32 is, but the GFA16 is
>$70 or so and he won't even do that.  Yaas, he
>taught me the value of a dollar all right.  My own.
>:/  Me, I'm poor as a churchmouse receiving Social
>Security.  I've got some troubles in the head,
>going for an MRI and Neurosurgeon and stuff like
>that.  GFA16 will do nicely with the 1,000 line limit.
>
>> 
>> I look forwrad to you RPG generator, thingy...
>
>Well don't hold your breath, John.  :)  Since I'm
>now in completely unfamiliar territory (again!)
>It's going to take a-while.  I've had this project
>in QBasic for better than 6 years running out of
>memory each time.  This will be <Lord Help Me!>
>like my 14th rewrite of it !
>
>AAaaaa !!  ! ! >Koff< aaaaaggggh ! ! ! 
>
>> 
>> "Driving in The Land of Faithful Enchantment"
>> 
>>  Driving along, in the middle, endless
>>  High and windswept blown earth round
>>  The flat'ning winds the carriage swove
>>  The plateau meetings calming of yore.
>> 
>>  Meandering pleasure, discerning entities
>>  Arrayed no difference, the gods were there
>>  Born the same, dying unchanging
>>  The carriage, the faithful and me.
>> 
>>  Foremost sounds silent within and leading
>>  Horizon towers and dark storm clouds
>>  Intoning the floods of conscious around
>>  Carrying all for the desert fliers.
>
>This poetry is very good !!  Is it yours original ?
>
>I've written a ton of poetry myself, mostly for
>Rose when we were together..
>
>Oh, and here's the ultimate solution to KILL the
>mouse pointer.  I know a lot of you out there have
>been wanting this one too.  Give some credit to
>Dale Bryant because I borrowed his:
>
>DEFMOUSE V:Cur$
>
>routine.
>
>Sincerely,
>David W.
>
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--- Tom Record
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> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr................  Seems to me I
> paid just less than
> $500 U.S.  Where do you find it for $70 anywhere?
> <F>
> TomR.

You must've bought the super-elite version.
No, there's a PDF file that shows the price
(they shoulda used a regular .TXT format!)
Brought it to Dad's and read it on his PDF reader
thingie there.  Russell said =JUST= the compiler
is that much.  Is the editor any better for the $500
version and/or do you get better debugging ?
I can't believe as powerful as this language is
they only allow 6 debug windows ??

I need 50 or 60 at least to get started in Scenario
proper.

Oh, and I just thought last night there's an even
better way to write Bit8To7 which also crunches
deeper with less source code writing.  I'm =REALLY=
going to have to piddle pom at it till I can see
how to figure it out.

Sincerely,
David W.

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--- Tom Record
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> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
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> appears I miss-guessed DavidW.'s age.  Sorry.
> <G>
> TomR.

Uhh, 'scuse me.  :)  What does Dale's Bio have to
do with my age ??  What are you people writing about ?

Sincerely,
David W.
Young enough to babble, old enough to translate it
:)
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> 
> --- Tom Record
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> it
> > appears I miss-guessed DavidW.'s age.  Sorry.
> > <G>
> > TomR.
> 

Going to answer my own question (I misread that)
I thought it said "get into Dale's bio secrets,
not section.  (Yes I'm paranoid!) at least two
pair, maybe three.  :)

Well there's a regular picture of me now.
Just imagine an overgrown Keebler Elf on steroids.
I guess my shoulder are wide from typing all my
life)  :)

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Bo't the "pro" version... complete.
Editor has no limit on filesize or # of lines it will edit.
W/ the sampler... break your appl into modules of less than 1,000 lines
& edit each.  Once all work properly, glue'em together & it'll compile
the whole thing.  The limit is on the number of lines it will edit only.
Actually, something like 1,024 or so.

Donno about # of debug windows... never got it to work so I understood it.
<G>
TomR.


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>> Errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr................  Seems to me I
>> paid just less than
>> $500 U.S.  Where do you find it for $70 anywhere?
>> <F>
>> TomR.
>
>You must've bought the super-elite version.
>No, there's a PDF file that shows the price
>(they shoulda used a regular .TXT format!)
>Brought it to Dad's and read it on his PDF reader
>thingie there.  Russell said =JUST= the compiler
>is that much.  Is the editor any better for the $500
>version and/or do you get better debugging ?
>I can't believe as powerful as this language is
>they only allow 6 debug windows ??
>
>I need 50 or 60 at least to get started in Scenario
>proper.
>
>Oh, and I just thought last night there's an even
>better way to write Bit8To7 which also crunches
>deeper with less source code writing.  I'm =REALLY=
>going to have to piddle pom at it till I can see
>how to figure it out.
>
>Sincerely,
>David W.
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Open mouth, insert foot.
I had misguessed DavidW.'s age bracket based on some things he had said.
DavidW.'s original comment about "Anime" kinda threw me.
His response w/ an Anime example & comment kinda nailed me to the floor.
I was still thinking of a much younger DavidW.
No inference or slight was intended... I just missed my guess quite widely.
That's what *I* am talking about.
TomR.



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>--- Tom Record
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>> List Member Tom Record
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>> Couldn't get into Dale's bio sect. last night, so it
>> appears I miss-guessed DavidW.'s age.  Sorry.
>> <G>
>> TomR.
>
>Uhh, 'scuse me.  :)  What does Dale's Bio have to
>do with my age ??  What are you people writing about ?
>
>Sincerely,
>David W.
>Young enough to babble, old enough to translate it
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--- Tom Record
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> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Open mouth, insert foot.
> I had misguessed DavidW.'s age bracket based on some
> things he had said.
> DavidW.'s original comment about "Anime" kinda threw
> me.
> His response w/ an Anime example & comment kinda
> nailed me to the floor.
> I was still thinking of a much younger DavidW.
> No inference or slight was intended... I just missed
> my guess quite widely.
> That's what *I* am talking about.
> TomR.

No problem Tom, now you see why no-one wants to
hire me.  I look like I'm 16 and have the manners
to match.   :)  Ah well.  And yes, it just so happens
I =AM= going to go see "Pokemon the 1st Movie" in
about 10 minutes from now.  I imagine I'll be the
only one there over the age of 14 for that movie.
I don't know, I never really growed up inside or
something..  I guess because when I was 16, I acted
like I was 8, but had the business skills of someone
in their 30s, but no maturity.  Every job I was at
I played with everything and couldn't seem to behave
like someone my age.

Mixed up David.  Now you know why I see a shrink.
and why I got trouble getting along with others.
:/

Sincerely,
David W.

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--- Tom Record
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> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Bo't the "pro" version... complete.
> Editor has no limit on filesize or # of lines it
> will edit.
> W/ the sampler... break your appl into modules of
> less than 1,000 lines
> & edit each.  Once all work properly, glue'em
> together & it'll compile
> the whole thing.  The limit is on the number of
> lines it will edit only.
> Actually, something like 1,024 or so.
> 
> Donno about # of debug windows... never got it to
> work so I understood it.

Humm.  Just to get past the editor 1,000 mark ?
What if someone hacked a way to bypass the 1,000 mark
?
Is that all you get for $500 ?

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List Member Vogel Michael <vo@schoeller.at> wrote:
Hi, 

I'm using a minimized windows to display different icons depending on
differnet states (no new mail, incoming mail, etc.). From time to time, the
icon get "lost" (often when using the alt-tab keys), what means the icon
will not be displayed on the desktop, but the application is still running
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--- Vogel Michael <vo@schoeller.at> wrote:
> List Member Vogel Michael <vo@schoeller.at> wrote:
> Hi, 
> 
> I'm using a minimized windows to display different
> icons depending on
> differnet states (no new mail, incoming mail, etc.).
> From time to time, the
> icon get "lost" (often when using the alt-tab keys),
> what means the icon
> will not be displayed on the desktop, but the
> application is still running
> (seen in task manager).
> Has anyone an idea why this can happen ?

Hi Michael:

This just means you've got a bunch of tasks running.
You can STR=E=TCH your taskbar to carry two rows
to see the rest.  Just move the pointer until it
turns into both a up and down arrow, hold down the
mouse button, drag till it snaps double-size.

Hope This Helps !

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I knew that!(G)

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> List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> --- Vogel Michael <vo@schoeller.at> wrote:
> > List Member Vogel Michael <vo@schoeller.at> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'm using a minimized windows to display different
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> > From time to time, the
> > icon get "lost" (often when using the alt-tab keys),
> > what means the icon
> > will not be displayed on the desktop, but the
> > application is still running
> > (seen in task manager).
> > Has anyone an idea why this can happen ?
>
> Hi Michael:
>
> This just means you've got a bunch of tasks running.
> You can STR=E=TCH your taskbar to carry two rows
> to see the rest.  Just move the pointer until it
> turns into both a up and down arrow, hold down the
> mouse button, drag till it snaps double-size.
>
> Hope This Helps !
>
> Sincerely,
> David W.
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
If you did not receive the GFANL166 news letter you can download it form the
GFAWHELP web site.
Select Letters from the main page. Includes zip code attachment.
Dale

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It sure got awful quiet in her all of a sudden !
I'm using a new internet provider so maybe these
didn't make it.

Here is Hearts, draws nice 3D hearts on your screen
for you and your loved ones (or, if you like to share,
you two and three G/F) :)

And KillMous, the final and ultimate solution to
pop that white arrow outta your app.

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List Member Wolfgang Schindler <w.schindler@josefstal.de> wrote:
Hi David !

> Here is Hearts, draws nice 3D hearts on your screen

its really nice, thank you=20
(and for the tricks used to do the job)

But your wrote:"Remember, you can assign multiple variables in a single
programming line !"

why saving lines?
I think, that's no improvement, but makes code more complicated.

> And KillMous, the final and ultimate solution to
> pop that white arrow outta your app.

it' working fine, easy to use. thank you.

mit freundlichen / herzlichen Gr=FC=DFen

Wolfgang Schindler=20

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Ha!  Found the source to convert a DIB to a *.jpg.

Problem: requires knowledge of "C", which leaves me out.

Would any of you who can handle "C" like to tackle the project?
<G>
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Gamers
I need to know about creating transparent backgrounds for *.bmp as
used by sprite movement.  What I have in mind is to create a hoochie
coochie girl as a desktop animation much like virtuagirl, but I want
to make her function in Win31, also.

I have a rough idea where I'm trying to go, but the only example I
can find at the moment doesn't do it the way I want... it's a cursor
decoration.  I just want the activity to stay in one location.

Just a little something new, altho an extension of what I've been
working on for some time.  I know it requires a "mask" image, but
*this* is the area I need help in.
<G>
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The one I didn't get was 165!

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:


--- Wolfgang Schindler <w.schindler@josefstal.de>
wrote:
> List Member Wolfgang Schindler
> <w.schindler@josefstal.de> wrote:
> Hi David !
>=20
> > Here is Hearts, draws nice 3D hearts on your
> screen
>=20
> its really nice, thank you=20
> (and for the tricks used to do the job)
>=20
> But your wrote:"Remember, you can assign multiple
> variables in a single
> programming line !"
>=20
> why saving lines?
> I think, that's no improvement, but makes code more
> complicated.

Greets Wolfgang:

I save lines because remember, I've got 1000 line
limit thingie and, it makes for neater code too.
This:

A=3D3,B=3D2,C=3D1

Could be compared to:

DATA 3,2,1

versus

A=3D3
B=3D2
C=3D1

data 3
data 2
data 1

Not too much difference.  And years back I was the
master of miniaturization.  :)  It's an old habit
to write code as tight and compressed as I possibly
can.  I'm =3DSLOWLY=3D getting out of that realizing
that with GFABasic, it's going to be a long time
before I run out of memory.

>=20
> > And KillMous, the final and ultimate solution to
> > pop that white arrow outta your app.
>=20
> it' working fine, easy to use. thank you.

Yep !  Gotta give Dale credit for that
SETMOUSE V:A$

technique tho !

>=20
> mit freundlichen / herzlichen Gr=FC=DFen
>=20
> Wolfgang Schindler=20
>=20
> -----------------------
>=20
> http://www.josefstal.de
>=20
> nur noch wenige Tage: =20
> http://www.wolfgang.50.years.de

Hey, what gives, you got =3D2=3D homepages ??  Lucky!!!

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--- Tom Record
<tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Ha!  Found the source to convert a DIB to a *.jpg.
> 
> Problem: requires knowledge of "C", which leaves me
> out.
> 
> Would any of you who can handle "C" like to tackle
> the project?
> <G>
> TomR.

Count me outta that one, Tom.  Now years ago I wrote
a massive graphic library in C but that was because
there was no good effective way (AT THE TIME) to
make good coding.  I'm here in GFA to avoid C.
I can write in it.  But I really hate it.  :)

Sincerely,
David W.

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--- Tom Record
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> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Gamers
> I need to know about creating transparent
> backgrounds for *.bmp as
> used by sprite movement.  What I have in mind is to
> create a hoochie
> coochie girl as a desktop animation much like
> virtuagirl, but I want
> to make her function in Win31, also.
> 
> I have a rough idea where I'm trying to go, but the
> only example I
> can find at the moment doesn't do it the way I
> want... it's a cursor
> decoration.  I just want the activity to stay in one
> location.
> 
> Just a little something new, altho an extension of
> what I've been
> working on for some time.  I know it requires a
> "mask" image, but
> *this* is the area I need help in.
> <G>
> TomR.

Greets Tom:

Hey, gimme a copy of the minx when you're done !  :)

Okay, it's real easy.  If you need to record the
background, do that in a separate image pointer.
To MASK out for BLACK, quite simply, it's AND.
(GFA has a lot of different ways to AND and I
 haven't really done it yet), but it's one of those.

To plot the image, quite simply since now you have
dug a hole deep enough for your sprite, use OR or
XOR to put her in.

Animation, huuum ??  Where'd you get something as
nice as that ??  I had Virtual Pet Slave Girl for
a-while, but it was slow, cumbersome, and major
crippleware.

I'm not very good at animation myself as far as
multiple images go.  Usually 2 for RPG characters
move UDLR.

Sincerely,
David W.

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HI Bev,
I wll send it to you special delivery.
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Hi Tom,

> I need to know about creating transparent backgrounds for *.bmp as
> used by sprite movement.  What I have in mind is to create a hoochie
> coochie girl as a desktop animation much like virtuagirl, but I want
> to make her function in Win31, also.

David explained it well, but I though you might like an example:

DEFLNG "a-z"
OPENW #1
' Load the bitmap
bmp&=LOADBMP("test.bmp")
w=79,  h=61

' Create a few temporary DCs to draw with
tempdc1&=MEMDC(_DC(1))
temp1old&=SelectObject(tempdc1&,bmp&)
tempdc2&=MEMDC(_DC(1))
' Create the bitmap for the mask
mask&=CREATEBMP(w,h)
temp2old&=SelectObject(tempdc2&,mask&)
FOR x=0 TO w
  FOR y=0 TO h
    RGB=GetPixel(tempdc1&,x,y)
    ' Change this to whatever colour you are using as the background
    IF RGB<>RGB(0,0,0)
      ~SetPixel(tempdc2&,x,y,0)
    ELSE
      ~SetPixel(tempdc2&,x,y,RGB(255,255,255))
    ENDIF
  NEXT y
NEXT x
~SelectObject(tempdc1&,temp1old&)
~SelectObject(tempdc2&,temp2old&)
~DeleteDC(tempdc1&)
~DeleteDC(tempdc2&)

REPEAT
  RGBCOLOR RGB(RAND(255),RAND(255),RAND(255))
  PBOX 0,0,_X,_Y

  PUT 0,0,mask&,SRCAND
  PUT 0,0,bmp&,SRCPAINT
  t=TIMER
  REPEAT
    PEEKEVENT
    EXIT IF MENU(1)=4
  UNTIL TIMER-t>200
UNTIL MENU(1)=4
FREEBMP bmp&
FREEBMP mask&
CLOSEW #1

HTH,
Russ
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Russ
Thanks a zillion!  Will let you see the results (IF I ever get there <G>).
<G>
TomR.


At 06:08 PM 16/02/00 -0000, you wrote:
>Hi Tom,
>
>> I need to know about creating transparent backgrounds for *.bmp as
>> used by sprite movement.  What I have in mind is to create a hoochie
>> coochie girl as a desktop animation much like virtuagirl, but I want
>> to make her function in Win31, also.
>
>David explained it well, but I though you might like an example:
>
>DEFLNG "a-z"
>OPENW #1
>' Load the bitmap
>bmp&=LOADBMP("test.bmp")
>w=79,  h=61
>
>' Create a few temporary DCs to draw with
>tempdc1&=MEMDC(_DC(1))
>temp1old&=SelectObject(tempdc1&,bmp&)
>tempdc2&=MEMDC(_DC(1))
>' Create the bitmap for the mask
>mask&=CREATEBMP(w,h)
>temp2old&=SelectObject(tempdc2&,mask&)
>FOR x=0 TO w
>  FOR y=0 TO h
>    RGB=GetPixel(tempdc1&,x,y)
>    ' Change this to whatever colour you are using as the background
>    IF RGB<>RGB(0,0,0)
>      ~SetPixel(tempdc2&,x,y,0)
>    ELSE
>      ~SetPixel(tempdc2&,x,y,RGB(255,255,255))
>    ENDIF
>  NEXT y
>NEXT x
>~SelectObject(tempdc1&,temp1old&)
>~SelectObject(tempdc2&,temp2old&)
>~DeleteDC(tempdc1&)
>~DeleteDC(tempdc2&)
>
>REPEAT
>  RGBCOLOR RGB(RAND(255),RAND(255),RAND(255))
>  PBOX 0,0,_X,_Y
>
>  PUT 0,0,mask&,SRCAND
>  PUT 0,0,bmp&,SRCPAINT
>  t=TIMER
>  REPEAT
>    PEEKEVENT
>    EXIT IF MENU(1)=4
>  UNTIL TIMER-t>200
>UNTIL MENU(1)=4
>FREEBMP bmp&
>FREEBMP mask&
>CLOSEW #1
>
>HTH,
>Russ
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>Attachment Converted: C:\WORLDNET\DOWNLOAD\test.bmp
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List Member Vogel Michael <vo@schoeller.at> wrote:
Nice !

What, if you don't have a taskbar (i.e. Win 3.x) ?
However, I found that message $118 (decimal 280) is sent in thecase (no
idea, what WM_ message that is), catching this message allows you to send a
WM_ICONIZE message which let the icon appear...

Michael

> ----------
> Von: 	Dale Bryant[SMTP:adbryant@email.msn.com]
> Gesendet: 	Mi, 16. Feb 2000 01:29
> An: 	gfabasic@gfa.net
> Betreff: 	Re: [gfabasic] Minimized Icons...
> 
> List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> I knew that!(G)
> 
> Dale Bryant
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> adbryant@gfa.net
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Wicker" <dw817@yahoo.com>
> To: <gfabasic@gfa.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2000 4:26 PM
> Subject: Re: [gfabasic] Minimized Icons...
> 
> 
> > List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > --- Vogel Michael <vo@schoeller.at> wrote:
> > > List Member Vogel Michael <vo@schoeller.at> wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I'm using a minimized windows to display different
> > > icons depending on
> > > differnet states (no new mail, incoming mail, etc.).
> > > From time to time, the
> > > icon get "lost" (often when using the alt-tab keys),
> > > what means the icon
> > > will not be displayed on the desktop, but the
> > > application is still running
> > > (seen in task manager).
> > > Has anyone an idea why this can happen ?
> >
> > Hi Michael:
> >
> > This just means you've got a bunch of tasks running.
> > You can STR=E=TCH your taskbar to carry two rows
> > to see the rest.  Just move the pointer until it
> > turns into both a up and down arrow, hold down the
> > mouse button, drag till it snaps double-size.
> >
> > Hope This Helps !
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > David W.
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Am running blind & in the dark.
Other than using GetProfile........ to read system.ini for the windows shell,
I need another way to check for this.  Since there may be others that are
running ProgMan instead of Explorer on Win95, just checking for version is
not going to be certain.

I'm diddling w/ desktop animations & really need to know the above because I
want to position the animation above the taskbar in 95 or all the way to the
bottom if in ProgMan.  The point... I need to determine the color of the
desktop background BEFORE planting the image(s).

I know what I want, but am powerless to put it into words.  It is 4:45 in the
morning & I am very groggy.  This is terrible!
<G>
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Thunderstorm moving in, shaking the walls & rattling the windows!
Raining!
<G>
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:


--- Vogel Michael <vo@schoeller.at> wrote:
> List Member Vogel Michael <vo@schoeller.at> wrote:
> Nice !
> 
> What, if you don't have a taskbar (i.e. Win 3.x) ?
> However, I found that message $118 (decimal 280) is
> sent in thecase (no
> idea, what WM_ message that is), catching this
> message allows you to send a
> WM_ICONIZE message which let the icon appear...

If you're using those "WM_" message thingies, check
with Russell, he's pretty good with those.

I use MENU() to retrieve all of those messages
myself.  Bring it up under help if you like.  It may
have the flag you are looking for.

Hope This Helps !

Sincerely,
David W.
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:


--- Tom Record
<tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Am running blind & in the dark.
> Other than using GetProfile........ to read
> system.ini for the windows shell,
> I need another way to check for this.  Since there
> may be others that are
> running ProgMan instead of Explorer on Win95, just
> checking for version is
> not going to be certain.
> 
> I'm diddling w/ desktop animations & really need to
> know the above because I
> want to position the animation above the taskbar in
> 95 or all the way to the
> bottom if in ProgMan.  The point... I need to
> determine the color of the
> desktop background BEFORE planting the image(s).
> 
> I know what I want, but am powerless to put it into
> words.  It is 4:45 in the
> morning & I am very groggy.  This is terrible!
> <G>
> TomR.

Greets Tom:

If it is just simple animation where you want to
recover the background underneath so a Sprite can
move on the top of it 100% flicker-free, I can
write a quick example.

If you're trying to plot directly on top of the
Win95/98 lower task bar, there's an example program
for that, but it's not easy !  I decided myself that
if I'm going to do TSR stuff to just make a little
window that graphically sits above the taskbar.

Hope This Helps !

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member "Russell Hayward" <russ@softhome.net> wrote:
Hi Vogel,

> What, if you don't have a taskbar (i.e. Win 3.x) ?
> However, I found that message $118 (decimal 280) is sent in thecase (no
> idea, what WM_ message that is), catching this message allows you to send
a
> WM_ICONIZE message which let the icon appear...

I've looked everywhere I can (Win 95 and Win 3.1 headers) and can't find
what this message is. Could it be something to do with Calmira? The only
thing I can find close is WM_SHOWWINDOW which is 0x0018, only one digit out.
:-D

Russ

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Subject: [gfabasic] Good RPG Sprite Example
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
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Okay, I'm gonna write a nice little example
flicker-free movement on top of background.  I'll
use Russell's WindowLock too so it's 100%
flicker free..

Okee !  All done.  This is for Tom and anyone else
who is interested in seeing good sprite animation
with recoverable background graphics.

Check it out !  

Sincerely,
David W.

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From: David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com>
Subject: [gfabasic] Where oh where ... ?
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Where oh Where is our Master of Ceremonies,
Dale ?

I haven't heard or seen from him and Hearts
hasn't been put in the downloads.  I thought it was
pretty good.  :/

I know..  I need to rewrite my homepage sometime and
just put all of my stuff there..

Sincerely,
David W.

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Updates on the GFAWHELP Web site

GFA16
HEARTS.ZIP by David Wicker -  Here's my heart
SPRXAMPLE.ZIP by David Wicker - Very nice sprite example

GFA32
SHELLABOUT.ZIP by John Findlay - Load icon of choice into the MS SheelAbout
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--- Dale Bryant <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com>
> wrote:
> Updates on the GFAWHELP Web site
> 
> GFA16
> HEARTS.ZIP by David Wicker -  Here's my heart
> SPRXAMPLE.ZIP by David Wicker - Very nice sprite
> example

Thanks Dale !  Wondered where you went to.

My Hearts didn't arrive on Valen Tine's day tho,
even though I wrote it on that day.  Ah well..

Didn't see KILLMOUS.  It's not fancy but boy does it
work well !  Thanks for the SETMOUSE V:A$ technique !
I'll put that in my Pyramax Core.

Russell is probably ready for his BUNDLE so I'll
ship that off today.  :)

Little RPG Sorceress will be seen in a game later.

Gredit is in the works !
All the way from the Apple ][+ to Commodore AmigaBASIC
to Amiga F-Basic, to GWBasic, to Turbo Pascal, to
QBasic, to GFABasic !  My ultimate tile and RPG
sprite editor !

To-morrow I go for my no so voluntary MRI under the
Brain scan.  I guess I'll know if there's something
wrong with me then..

Sincerely,
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--- RALFAR <ralfar@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> List Member "RALFAR" <ralfar@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
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Greets Ralfar.  Check out Dale's homepage.  I
think you have to cancel from there.  You're gonna
miss out on some great stuff tho !  :)

Okay, and the new question on the block,

How do you plot graphics to the backdrop or partially
on top of prior windows in Win95/98 ?

I think Russell did it with his Grab-Ball demo,
and Tom wants to have a sexy girl slink on the screen
without a window I think..

If I can do it, I'll try to have a nice Anime
figure walk on, and click off sections of the screen
with a wave of her wand.  True Screen-saver style !

Look for Bubbles coming soon !

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Hi David,
With working on two newsletters and two Window help files sometimes it takes
me while to get things posted.  I usually get around to it but always remind
me in case I forget.
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> List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> --- Dale Bryant <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> > List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com>
> > wrote:
> > Updates on the GFAWHELP Web site
> >
> > GFA16
> > HEARTS.ZIP by David Wicker -  Here's my heart
> > SPRXAMPLE.ZIP by David Wicker - Very nice sprite
> > example
>
> Thanks Dale !  Wondered where you went to.
>
> My Hearts didn't arrive on Valen Tine's day tho,
> even though I wrote it on that day.  Ah well..
>
> Didn't see KILLMOUS.  It's not fancy but boy does it
> work well !  Thanks for the SETMOUSE V:A$ technique !
> I'll put that in my Pyramax Core.
>
> Russell is probably ready for his BUNDLE so I'll
> ship that off today.  :)
>
> Little RPG Sorceress will be seen in a game later.
>
> Gredit is in the works !
> All the way from the Apple ][+ to Commodore AmigaBASIC
> to Amiga F-Basic, to GWBasic, to Turbo Pascal, to
> QBasic, to GFABasic !  My ultimate tile and RPG
> sprite editor !
>
> To-morrow I go for my no so voluntary MRI under the
> Brain scan.  I guess I'll know if there's something
> wrong with me then..
>
> Sincerely,
> David W.
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Hi David,

> How do you plot graphics to the backdrop or partially
> on top of prior windows in Win95/98 ?
>
> I think Russell did it with his Grab-Ball demo,
> and Tom wants to have a sexy girl slink on the screen
> without a window I think..

You really have to use a window, otherwise it is almost impossible to get
Windows to redraw properly. The way I did it was to have a window without a
border and store a MEMDC of what was behind the ball. As it moved I shifted
the MEMDC and copied in the area that ball was about to be covered by the
ball. I then BITBLTed the MEMDC to the window and PUT the ball on top of it.

All this is further confused because Windows doesn't redraw the desktop when
an icon is being dragged, so the ball left itself behind at those times. I
had to BITBLT from the background MEMDC directly to the screen behind the
ball.

This was made harder because it sometimes left things around when another
window was moved over it. I had to enumerate all the visible windows to
check whether they overlapped the ball and not draw directly to the screen
if they did.

This is a few of the reasons why the program takes up around 90% of system
resources while running.

HTH,
Russ

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> With working on two newsletters and two Window help
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> me in case I forget.
> Dale

Greets Dale:

Wow !  You're a busy guy, sorry didn't know !
Please post in here occasionally about your NEW
release HELP FILES and I'll update my own !
Thanks !

Okay, SprXampl does work but =ONLY= in Win95/98
BIT16, it does not work for BIT24 or BIT32.

The reason is simple, David, get off your Keister
and put together GREDIT instead of tooling in
graphics by hand manually !  :)

I'll put out new version of SprXampl once I have
GREDIT up and running enough to mask the colors
correctly for the Sorceress.

GREDIT will also provide typeface for =ALL= packages.

GREDIT Text size (at this time) will be 16x32 pixels,
256 characters including special doodle chars.

Tika's Blackjack is being considered, but Gredit
needs to be up and running first.

I'm not going to redo the vector text because I'm
not getting the results I want, however, I will put
out all the remaining vector functions,
Ellipse, Rectangle .

I badly wanted vectored marbleized text and it's just
not gonna work..

I'm done with Vector Library because the math involved
in aspect ratio for fixed point origin pixellated and
dithered effects is too much a headache.

I'm still working on my .GIF to Vector compressor.
These vectors are not complex, I just have to get the
encryption and decryption correct.

In order to marbleize the text, I must have a fixed
point origin that can define all the pixels downward.
True vectors won't do that for me.  :/

All displays from here on in, if they are BITMAPed,
will be 400x300 or 640x480 .  Doodle stuff like
Screen-Teasers I'll try to be compat with the rest of
the world.  :)

Sincerely,
David W.

Bubbles is finished but I'm not satisfied, I want
some real fancy animation in it first before I sent
it.

Up and coming, LowBlur, or how to make Marbleized
window backdrops or internet backdrops.  This is easy
!
:)
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If I don't come back then I guess I donated my
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
H David,
Sounds great. I eagerly await!
Dale

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From: "David Wicker" <dw817@yahoo.com>
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> List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> --- Dale Bryant <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> > List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com>
> > wrote:
> > Hi David,
> > With working on two newsletters and two Window help
> > files sometimes it takes
> > me while to get things posted.  I usually get around
> > to it but always remind
> > me in case I forget.
> > Dale
>
> Greets Dale:
>
> Wow !  You're a busy guy, sorry didn't know !
> Please post in here occasionally about your NEW
> release HELP FILES and I'll update my own !
> Thanks !
>
> Okay, SprXampl does work but =ONLY= in Win95/98
> BIT16, it does not work for BIT24 or BIT32.
>
> The reason is simple, David, get off your Keister
> and put together GREDIT instead of tooling in
> graphics by hand manually !  :)
>
> I'll put out new version of SprXampl once I have
> GREDIT up and running enough to mask the colors
> correctly for the Sorceress.
>
> GREDIT will also provide typeface for =ALL= packages.
>
> GREDIT Text size (at this time) will be 16x32 pixels,
> 256 characters including special doodle chars.
>
> Tika's Blackjack is being considered, but Gredit
> needs to be up and running first.
>
> I'm not going to redo the vector text because I'm
> not getting the results I want, however, I will put
> out all the remaining vector functions,
> Ellipse, Rectangle .
>
> I badly wanted vectored marbleized text and it's just
> not gonna work..
>
> I'm done with Vector Library because the math involved
> in aspect ratio for fixed point origin pixellated and
> dithered effects is too much a headache.
>
> I'm still working on my .GIF to Vector compressor.
> These vectors are not complex, I just have to get the
> encryption and decryption correct.
>
> In order to marbleize the text, I must have a fixed
> point origin that can define all the pixels downward.
> True vectors won't do that for me.  :/
>
> All displays from here on in, if they are BITMAPed,
> will be 400x300 or 640x480 .  Doodle stuff like
> Screen-Teasers I'll try to be compat with the rest of
> the world.  :)
>
> Sincerely,
> David W.
>
> Bubbles is finished but I'm not satisfied, I want
> some real fancy animation in it first before I sent
> it.
>
> Up and coming, LowBlur, or how to make Marbleized
> window backdrops or internet backdrops.  This is easy
> !
> :)
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> Hi David,
> 
> > How do you plot graphics to the backdrop or
> partially
> > on top of prior windows in Win95/98 ?
> >
> > I think Russell did it with his Grab-Ball demo,
> > and Tom wants to have a sexy girl slink on the
> screen
> > without a window I think..
> 
> You really have to use a window, otherwise it is
> almost impossible to get
> Windows to redraw properly. The way I did it was to
> have a window without a
> border and store a MEMDC of what was behind the
> ball. As it moved I shifted
> the MEMDC and copied in the area that ball was about
> to be covered by the
> ball. I then BITBLTed the MEMDC to the window and
> PUT the ball on top of it.
> 
> All this is further confused because Windows doesn't
> redraw the desktop when
> an icon is being dragged, so the ball left itself
> behind at those times. I
> had to BITBLT from the background MEMDC directly to
> the screen behind the
> ball.
> 
> This was made harder because it sometimes left
> things around when another
> window was moved over it. I had to enumerate all the
> visible windows to
> check whether they overlapped the ball and not draw
> directly to the screen
> if they did.
> 
> This is a few of the reasons why the program takes
> up around 90% of system
> resources while running.

Ouch !  Is that all ?  I thought it would be
something difficult !  :)

Wow !!  Well, you just lost my interest in a non-
window background.  Tom, are you still interested
in this ?  Way to go Russell !  That's a =LOT= of
work !

Well, I survived the MRI, his words, I was the best
one he's seen yet, whatever that means.. !

I won't get the results for 2 weeks anyways..
I'm tired, it was a very uncomfortable ordeal.

I see =ROSE= tomorrow so I get my Life Fix !
Okee, time for fun stuff !
Here is =BUBBLES!=  No, not the Power Puff
Girl "Bubbles" but very nice highly elastic
colored bubbles.  The big ones are awfully sticky
so you'll have to peel them off of your monitor
with a spatula if they get stuck !  :)

Sincerely,
David W.

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So, yer back.  Welcome.
The animation gizmochie... Am working w/ a window ok, just wanted to get
the color of the background so I could have just the action showing, not
*my* background.  Have a new trick up my sleave, so may be a spell before
I hunt up the more interesting animations & give'em a try.  Figured out
how to write an *.rc file for compilation into a *.res file for inclusion
in an *.exe or *.dll.  Am rolling in new goodies.
<G>
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At 10:22 PM 18/02/00 -0800, you wrote:
>> Hi David,
>> 
>> > How do you plot graphics to the backdrop or
>> partially
>> > on top of prior windows in Win95/98 ?
>> >
>> > I think Russell did it with his Grab-Ball demo,
>> > and Tom wants to have a sexy girl slink on the
>> screen
>> > without a window I think..
>> 
>> You really have to use a window, otherwise it is
>> almost impossible to get
>> Windows to redraw properly. The way I did it was to
>> have a window without a
>> border and store a MEMDC of what was behind the
>> ball. As it moved I shifted
>> the MEMDC and copied in the area that ball was about
>> to be covered by the
>> ball. I then BITBLTed the MEMDC to the window and
>> PUT the ball on top of it.
>> 
>> All this is further confused because Windows doesn't
>> redraw the desktop when
>> an icon is being dragged, so the ball left itself
>> behind at those times. I
>> had to BITBLT from the background MEMDC directly to
>> the screen behind the
>> ball.
>> 
>> This was made harder because it sometimes left
>> things around when another
>> window was moved over it. I had to enumerate all the
>> visible windows to
>> check whether they overlapped the ball and not draw
>> directly to the screen
>> if they did.
>> 
>> This is a few of the reasons why the program takes
>> up around 90% of system
>> resources while running.
>
>Ouch !  Is that all ?  I thought it would be
>something difficult !  :)
>
>Wow !!  Well, you just lost my interest in a non-
>window background.  Tom, are you still interested
>in this ?  Way to go Russell !  That's a =LOT= of
>work !
>
>Well, I survived the MRI, his words, I was the best
>one he's seen yet, whatever that means.. !
>
>I won't get the results for 2 weeks anyways..
>I'm tired, it was a very uncomfortable ordeal.
>
>I see =ROSE= tomorrow so I get my Life Fix !
>Okee, time for fun stuff !
>Here is =BUBBLES!=  No, not the Power Puff
>Girl "Bubbles" but very nice highly elastic
>colored bubbles.  The big ones are awfully sticky
>so you'll have to peel them off of your monitor
>with a spatula if they get stuck !  :)
>
>Sincerely,
>David W.
>
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--- Tom Record
<tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> So, yer back.  Welcome.
> The animation gizmochie... Am working w/ a window
> ok, just wanted to get
> the color of the background so I could have just the
> action showing, not
> *my* background.  Have a new trick up my sleave, so
> may be a spell before
> I hunt up the more interesting animations & give'em
> a try.  Figured out
> how to write an *.rc file for compilation into a
> *.res file for inclusion
> in an *.exe or *.dll.  Am rolling in new goodies.
> <G>
> TomR.

Ouch !  That's tricky stuff !  What is a .RC file ?
I don't think I'm going to write any .DLLs because
I give source out for everything and GFABasic has
tons o' memory so there's no need to save it.

I'm going to re-post that request.  I think I made it
too difficult and all we really want is one thing.

Hey !  They're selling Power Puff Dolls at the Mall
so I'm gonna get one for Rose !  :)

Sincerely,
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > You really have to use a window, otherwise it is
> > almost impossible to get
> > Windows to redraw properly. The way I did it was
> to
> > have a window without a
> > border and store a MEMDC of what was behind the
> > ball. As it moved I shifted
> > the MEMDC and copied in the area that ball was
> about
> > to be covered by the
> > ball. I then BITBLTed the MEMDC to the window and
> > PUT the ball on top of it.
> > 
> > All this is further confused because Windows
> doesn't
> > redraw the desktop when
> > an icon is being dragged, so the ball left itself
> > behind at those times. I
> > had to BITBLT from the background MEMDC directly
> to
> > the screen behind the
> > ball.
> > 
> > This was made harder because it sometimes left
> > things around when another
> > window was moved over it. I had to enumerate all
> the
> > visible windows to
> > check whether they overlapped the ball and not
> draw
> > directly to the screen
> > if they did.
> > 
> > This is a few of the reasons why the program takes
> > up around 90% of system
> > resources while running.

Okay Russell, I thought alot about it and I think
maybe this can be done and is easier ?

How do you get an exact copy of the entire screen
and put it in a window of _X,_Y .  It doesn't have
to actually have windows or stuff.  It's just an exact
copy image of it.  With that.  Me and Tom can just
use that and not do really hard stuff.

In mine, I could:

Copy Display to WIN1
(Screen may blink for just a sec but that's okee)
Have Sorceress walk into WIN1 which visually appears
exactly the same as before you ran anything.
She waaaves her wand around and color sparkles
everything to black.  She walks off the screen with
just her eyes showing.  :)  Ta Dah !  You now have a
black screen, perfect as a true Screen Saver.

Sincerely,
David W.

Also !  Is there something faster than STRETCH ?
Man that takes like forever to think a bout what its
gone to do !

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Hey
Interested in your *.exe containing *.jpg images & a means of reading
them... w/o *.dlls?  Or... would you like a tiny *.jpg *.dll?  All is
in Dale's hands now, courtesy of Roland Walter.

Included is a means of reading a *.jpg into an *.rc file, which has to
be compiled into a *.res file by a resource compiler.  *This* one is
from *me* to you.  I'm having to debug a multi-*.jpg version, but it
will be forthcoming soon.  In the meantime, generate an *.rc for each
image, then append one to another with 2 empty lines between & correct
the image IDs for the 2nd on to the last.

HA!  Now we have *.bmp (Sjouke, greatly improved by Eberhard), *.gif (John!),
codec-compressed *.bmp (Roland), & now *.jpg (again, Roland), ALL INTERNAL,
in GFA-W(16) source!  Roland also brought us *.gif & *.jpg handled as win
metafiles in memory.  Brent & David have brought metafiles to light & David
is working on a sprite generator (DON'T bite me if this isn't actually what
it is, David <G>).  We have several other image *.dlls available & working.

John gave us an animated *.bmp & I got into this act.  Combining the works of
several of the above, animations can now be done in several formats!  I do
sincerely hope I've not left out any major contributors in the image department.

Yes, much of this is built into GFA(32), but quite a few will never see it.  We
now have the capability in GFA-W(16), too.

Opps... left out Bev's *.avi, *.cur, etc., & someone else's *.mid & another's
*.ico.  What a smart bunch of fellers I work with!  Lots of progress in the 2
years I've been working w/ GFA-W(16)!  Thank you, fellers!
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Hey
Interested in your *.exe containing *.jpg images & a means of reading
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**********************************
>From my hands to your hands!

MINIJPG.ZIP is ready for download.
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Ok, kiddies
I have the multi-image *.rc generator working.  In truth, it believe it
can actually handle sounds & other necessities as well as images of various
formats.  I *think* it might handle VERSINFO, also.  *This* remains to be seen.

NOW...

Would someone knowledgeable please help me work out a compiler to turn the
*.rc file into a $LNKable *.res?  I have the format from Wotsit.
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Tom,

Hey, Roland's jpg stuff is neat!


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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
John
I think so too.  Matter of fact, I'm playing w/ the idea of using
your *.gif in much the same way!  I just sent Dale a copy of the
*.rc generator that can poke a bunch of *.bmp, *.gif, *.jpg or *.wav
files into an *.rc file so it can be compiled & $LNKed into a *.dll
or *.exe.  Can't mix'em tho... maybe in the future.

I wonder about *.mid, etc........

You & Roland have given me a lot to work with late.  THANKS GUYS!!
<G>
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>Tom,
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>Hey, Roland's jpg stuff is neat!
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>John
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--- Tom Record
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> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> John
> I think so too.  Matter of fact, I'm playing w/ the
> idea of using
> your *.gif in much the same way!  I just sent Dale a
> copy of the
> *.rc generator that can poke a bunch of *.bmp,
> *.gif, *.jpg or *.wav
> files into an *.rc file so it can be compiled &
> $LNKed into a *.dll
> or *.exe.  Can't mix'em tho... maybe in the future.
> 
> I wonder about *.mid, etc........
> 
> You & Roland have given me a lot to work with late. 
> THANKS GUYS!!
> <G>
> TomR.

Greets guys:

Ahhmmm..  I can't figure it out.  I don't know what
a .RC file is or .RES..  Looking at the source it's
very busy code..  It runs but I don't really know
what it's supposed to do.  Does it come with an
instructional manual ?

There was a QBasic game written a long time ago by a
C++ programmer called MONOFITR for Mono Color Fighter.
The game is outstanding with his own custom MIDI
player instrument driver, sound FX, flicker free
GFX, and complete GFX library..  The source code is
virtually unreadable, especially by me.

It's one long PEEK POKE and RECORD after another.
Eyyech..

Okee, well, just count on me to write very easy-to
understand stuff because I don't know C very well..

If it does .JPGs can it do .GIFs ?  And how do you do
all that with .RES & RC files anyway ?

Sincerely,
David W.

Hey Dale, I'm gonna rewrite my page because it's
still got a lot of QBasic stuff in it.  I'll post all
my stuff there so if you want it you can find it more
easily.  Okay !

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BUBBLES.ZIP by David Wicker - What is more fun than blowing bubbles?

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--- Dale Bryant <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com>
> wrote:
> UPDATE!!!!
> GFA16 Section
> --
> RCGEN07.ZIP by Tom Record. This is nice. Create
> an.RC file with bmps,gif,jpg
> or wave.
> BUBBLES.ZIP by David Wicker - What is more fun than
> blowing bubbles?
> 
> On the Biog and Photo pages
> Roland Walter- see what the king looks like.(G)

Hi Dale !

Thank you =SO= much for liking Bubbles !  I know its
really slow I need to fix it so it looks better !
Okay !  Thanks !  :)

Sincerely,
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--- Tom Record
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> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Hey
> Interested in your *.exe containing *.jpg images & a
> means of reading
> them... w/o *.dlls?  Or... would you like a tiny
> *.jpg *.dll?  All is
> in Dale's hands now, courtesy of Roland Walter.
> 
> Included is a means of reading a *.jpg into an *.rc
> file, which has to
> be compiled into a *.res file by a resource
> compiler.  *This* one is
> from *me* to you.  I'm having to debug a multi-*.jpg
> version, but it
> will be forthcoming soon.  In the meantime, generate
> an *.rc for each
> image, then append one to another with 2 empty lines
> between & correct
> the image IDs for the 2nd on to the last.
> 
> HA!  Now we have *.bmp (Sjouke, greatly improved by
> Eberhard), *.gif (John!),
> codec-compressed *.bmp (Roland), & now *.jpg (again,
> Roland), ALL INTERNAL,
> in GFA-W(16) source!  Roland also brought us *.gif &
> *.jpg handled as win
> metafiles in memory.  Brent & David have brought
> metafiles to light & David
> is working on a sprite generator (DON'T bite me if
> this isn't actually what
> it is, David <G>).  We have several other image

Well I'm not gonna bite you but you're sorta right.
:)  It's GREDIT.  Graphic Editor.  It does make
sprites, or entire screens when you like.  You making
them with one dot at a time or use included functions
like Mantissa, LowBlur, Dither, Enlarge with
Clarity, etc.  The Enlarger thingie I wrote on a $10
bet many years ago.  Guy said I can't enlarge a
pixeled image, yah ?  Check it out, I got $10 richer
:)

This is a scene from Gredit for .EGA in QBasic cause
I was running out of memory so bad writing Scenario.

Now I aint gonna run out o' memory so I can rewrite
Gredit for GFA and add some 64 million color tool
thingies too !  Long live the pixel !

Sincerely,
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
UPDATE
GFA16
VECTOR.ZIP by David Wicker.  Beautiful screen. Take a look.

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
At 12:09 PM 20/02/00 -0800, you wrote:
>List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>--- Tom Record
><tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> List Member Tom Record
>> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> John
>> I think so too.  Matter of fact, I'm playing w/ the
>> idea of using
>> your *.gif in much the same way!  I just sent Dale a
>> copy of the
>> *.rc generator that can poke a bunch of *.bmp,
>> *.gif, *.jpg or *.wav
>> files into an *.rc file so it can be compiled &
>> $LNKed into a *.dll
>> or *.exe.  Can't mix'em tho... maybe in the future.
>> 
>> I wonder about *.mid, etc........
>> 
>> You & Roland have given me a lot to work with late. 
>> THANKS GUYS!!
>> <G>
>> TomR.
>
>Greets guys:
>
>Ahhmmm..  I can't figure it out.  I don't know what
>a .RC file is or .RES..  Looking at the source it's
>very busy code..  It runs but I don't really know
>what it's supposed to do.  Does it come with an
>instructional manual ?
>
+++ David
*.rc is a text script, detailing resources you want to use.  This includes 
a lot of things... images, sounds, dialogs, menus, etc.  It must be in a
binary state to be included in an executable, hense compilation to *.res.

The GFA-W(16) compiler is "C"-based, therefore it has the ability to $LNK
other files into the executables.  I have no idea how many hundreds (or
thousands) of things it can do (or NOT do), but... being "C"-based, it is
extremely versatile in the hands of an accomplished programmer.  It dumbfounds
hell out of beginners, teasing them with "if you ever learn how..."s all
over the place.  It's a real bitch for me in some ways.  I was fully fluent
& passed for an Arab in only 6 months in Arabic.  I've been 2 years getting
only semi-accomplished in GFA-W(16).  I have a looooooong way to go <F>.

I'm sorry I didn't include better instructions with the generator, but quite
frankly, I'm amazed that I even got it to perform the task.  As time passes,
I'll probably make it a bit more versatile, like, changing formats, adding
other resources, etc.  There are several things I really want in it,
particularly
VERSINFO.  *This* can't be handled exactly "C".

So far, NO GFA-W(16) executable w/ VERSINFO in it will show it in anything
but a hex editor.  Roland wrote an appl to read out various data from an
executable, then with John's help, I added VERSINFO to it & GFA-W(16) 
executables bomb it unless I trap'em.

I'll get VERSINFO working properly in a GFA-W(16) executable or I'm not
Ta, Ta, Di Dah, TOM TERRIFIC!

If I did good housekeeping on this computer, I could probably get 3Gb back!
>
>There was a QBasic game written a long time ago by a
>C++ programmer called MONOFITR for Mono Color Fighter.
>The game is outstanding with his own custom MIDI
>player instrument driver, sound FX, flicker free
>GFX, and complete GFX library..  The source code is
>virtually unreadable, especially by me.
>
>It's one long PEEK POKE and RECORD after another.
>Eyyech..
>
>Okee, well, just count on me to write very easy-to
>understand stuff because I don't know C very well..
>
>If it does .JPGs can it do .GIFs ?  And how do you do
>all that with .RES & RC files anyway ?
>
+++ Well... as far as I can figure, VIRTUALLY ANY image format can
be used!  A *.res (resource) file makes all available within the
executable, meaning you don't have a ton of image files, etc., to
have to take care of.  There is a method of reading them, but it 
works ONLY after the whole thing is compiled.

If you don't run this down before I get there, I'll eventually put
out some instructions on doing it.  Look into the display appl that
is with the *.lib module... *THAT* is how it's done.
>
>Sincerely,
>David W.
>
>Hey Dale, I'm gonna rewrite my page because it's
>still got a lot of QBasic stuff in it.  I'll post all
>my stuff there so if you want it you can find it more
>easily.  Okay !
>
>__________________________________________________

I reckon I'd better clean up my webjump site & add some of this to it.
<G>
TomR.

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
David
Welcome to GFA-W(16)!  If it doesn't eat you alive, it'll fill your
head with ideas, desires & wishes!  If things stick as you progress,
you can do some wonderous things with it!
<G>
TomR.


At 02:39 PM 20/02/00 -0800, you wrote:
>
>
>--- Tom Record
><tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> List Member Tom Record
>> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> Hey
>> Interested in your *.exe containing *.jpg images & a
>> means of reading
>> them... w/o *.dlls?  Or... would you like a tiny
>> *.jpg *.dll?  All is
>> in Dale's hands now, courtesy of Roland Walter.
>> 
>> Included is a means of reading a *.jpg into an *.rc
>> file, which has to
>> be compiled into a *.res file by a resource
>> compiler.  *This* one is
>> from *me* to you.  I'm having to debug a multi-*.jpg
>> version, but it
>> will be forthcoming soon.  In the meantime, generate
>> an *.rc for each
>> image, then append one to another with 2 empty lines
>> between & correct
>> the image IDs for the 2nd on to the last.
>> 
>> HA!  Now we have *.bmp (Sjouke, greatly improved by
>> Eberhard), *.gif (John!),
>> codec-compressed *.bmp (Roland), & now *.jpg (again,
>> Roland), ALL INTERNAL,
>> in GFA-W(16) source!  Roland also brought us *.gif &
>> *.jpg handled as win
>> metafiles in memory.  Brent & David have brought
>> metafiles to light & David
>> is working on a sprite generator (DON'T bite me if
>> this isn't actually what
>> it is, David <G>).  We have several other image
>
>Well I'm not gonna bite you but you're sorta right.
>:)  It's GREDIT.  Graphic Editor.  It does make
>sprites, or entire screens when you like.  You making
>them with one dot at a time or use included functions
>like Mantissa, LowBlur, Dither, Enlarge with
>Clarity, etc.  The Enlarger thingie I wrote on a $10
>bet many years ago.  Guy said I can't enlarge a
>pixeled image, yah ?  Check it out, I got $10 richer
>:)
>
>This is a scene from Gredit for .EGA in QBasic cause
>I was running out of memory so bad writing Scenario.
>
>Now I aint gonna run out o' memory so I can rewrite
>Gredit for GFA and add some 64 million color tool
>thingies too !  Long live the pixel !
>
>Sincerely,
>David W.
>
>__________________________________________________
>Do You Yahoo!?
>Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:


--- Dale Bryant <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com>
> wrote:
> UPDATE
> GFA16
> VECTOR.ZIP by David Wicker.  Beautiful screen. Take
> a look.

Dale..  Vector is crap.
I didn't want it public.  I've been ashamed I wrote
it.
I'm sorry..  I guess I all ways did better at pixels.
I seen that since you wanted to see it I'd show you.
You can keep and play with it if you like and maybe
put out stuff better of it.

I guess when I saw that I did jukebox screen with
sorta vector stuff I thought it would be neat to
redraw the jukebox in true vector format only..

But I don't have any plans for it beyond that so
that's not real for me a good reason to work hard at
it..

Russell said it was a resource maker or something and
I still don't know what this is..

Maybe if I saw something besides just making a picture
of a jukebox I'd feel better about it.  I guess--
I guess I wanted to challenge myself for a bit-
and I did.  :)

I don't know..  I always tried not to put it out
anything unless it was really good.  I must have
lower ideas for my self to day..

Well, going to see Mom & Dad tomorrow.
He said we're all getting together to go to a
playhouse or something..

Should be fun !  :)  Okay--

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >Greets guys:
> >
> >Ahhmmm..  I can't figure it out.  I don't know what
> >a .RC file is or .RES..  Looking at the source it's
> >very busy code..  It runs but I don't really know
> >what it's supposed to do.  Does it come with an
> >instructional manual ?
> >
> +++ David
> *.rc is a text script, detailing resources you want
> to use.  This includes 
> a lot of things... images, sounds, dialogs, menus,
> etc.  It must be in a
> binary state to be included in an executable, hense
> compilation to *.res.

Okay (really confused now)..  Can this RC stuff be
made without GFA16 compiler / or will it run in the
demo verson of GFA16, and how do you reference a file
on the hard-drive that is not on the hard-drive but
is actually part of the file you are running it now
that is the executable and not a different filename
or file that does not execute ?

I understand DATA in GFA16 cause QBasic and BASIC
use that.  Is a RC a hidden DATA file ?  I really
don't understand.

> 
> The GFA-W(16) compiler is "C"-based, therefore it
> has the ability to $LNK
> other files into the executables.  I have no idea
> how many hundreds (or
> thousands) of things it can do (or NOT do), but...
> being "C"-based, it is
> extremely versatile in the hands of an accomplished
> programmer.

Well now you should now I'm not like a big time
programmer or anything.  I just am more stubborn then
most of others and people and I work really hard at
tiny detailed things that others and people may not
want to work so bad at.  Pixels for example.
I =REALLY= wish GFA16 was faster so I could write a
really big best and good pixel library.  The page I
am will be writing later Smoked Glass & Magic will not
focus on the pixel, but BITBLT and magic stuff that
can be done with it.  It is very good and fast but
it is not as powerful a single pixel.

  It dumbfounds
> hell out of beginners, teasing them with "if you
> ever learn how..."s all
> over the place.  It's a real bitch for me in some
> ways.

Okee.. I learned
A++  A=A+1
A+=5 A=A+5
I don't need a THEN or LOOP in LOOP UNTIL anywhere
at all anywhere.
GOTO is not good programming, says Russell  :)

You gotta type all with CAPS LOCK ON for variables
that BITBLT and things like this use.

That's how much I've learned so far..

  I was fully fluent
> & passed for an Arab in only 6 months in Arabic. 
> I've been 2 years getting
> only semi-accomplished in GFA-W(16).  I have a
> looooooong way to go <F>.

I know a little Spanish only because they make really
good things like tiny chess sets I wanted and did
went to go and bought a set and Chamomile Tea to
take home.

> 
> I'm sorry I didn't include better instructions with
> the generator, but quite
> frankly, I'm amazed that I even got it to perform
> the task.  As time passes,
> I'll probably make it a bit more versatile, like,
> changing formats, adding
> other resources, etc.  There are several things I
> really want in it,
> particularly
> VERSINFO.  *This* can't be handled exactly "C".

I can program in C but I really don't like it.
Remember I'm a really lazy guy !  I write all
my math stuff and functions/procedures because I hate
to work hard at anything thats me right there.  :)

> 
> So far, NO GFA-W(16) executable w/ VERSINFO in it
> will show it in anything
> but a hex editor.  Roland wrote an appl to read out
> various data from an
> executable, then with John's help, I added VERSINFO
> to it & GFA-W(16) 
> executables bomb it unless I trap'em.

I know a hex editor.  VERSINFO is part of your .JPG
tool thing ?
> 
> I'll get VERSINFO working properly in a GFA-W(16)
> executable or I'm not
> Ta, Ta, Di Dah, TOM TERRIFIC!

TOM TERRIFIC, there's a Tom Slick he races a car
against Penelope Pitstop in Wacky Races !  :)

> 
> If I did good housekeeping on this computer, I could
> probably get 3Gb back!

I can send you a copy of some very old but useful
tools I am using all the time to poke thru files.

DIRMAGIC and one I wrote CDIR

> >
> >There was a QBasic game written a long time ago by
> a
> >C++ programmer called MONOFITR for Mono Color
> Fighter.
> >The game is outstanding with his own custom MIDI
> >player instrument driver, sound FX, flicker free
> >GFX, and complete GFX library..  The source code is
> >virtually unreadable, especially by me.
> >
> >It's one long PEEK POKE and RECORD after another.
> >Eyyech..
> >
> >Okee, well, just count on me to write very easy-to
> >understand stuff because I don't know C very well..
> >
> >If it does .JPGs can it do .GIFs ?  And how do you
> do
> >all that with .RES & RC files anyway ?
> >
> +++ Well... as far as I can figure, VIRTUALLY ANY
> image format can
> be used!  A *.res (resource) file makes all
> available within the
> executable, meaning you don't have a ton of image
> files, etc., to
> have to take care of.  There is a method of reading
> them, but it 
> works ONLY after the whole thing is compiled.

Is GFA16 compiling a *.res file ?

> 
> If you don't run this down before I get there, I'll
> eventually put

No..  I'm really not trying to run it down-- .
God you've done good work and everyone is liking it
really great its just all of a sudden every body
started talking in not-English when you wrote this
and it was kinna like everyone expected everybody
to know what was going on.

You know- you go to a party, everyone is laughing
and smiling, and well, you smile or laugh or something
but you really don't know why.  That is how I am and
was feeling.  I didn't know at all what was and is
going on and I felt kinna trapped and alone.

I all ways try to write really really =REALLY= easy
to figure out code, and I in all ways want everyone
to not say, David writes hard stuff I can't follow.
When I was selling my games years ago and I was and
did knowing then to the day yesterday that no-one
would see my code, I made it hard, protecting it,
encrypting it, and all because I did and had so
many companies try very hard to rip me off everything
good I had..  It hurt and still does.

When I decided to share everything, in all ways I
wanted it to be =FUN= to read, very lots of good
stuff to learn and read and teach programming cause I
did that as a job years ago tutor too.

In all ways I want to make it very easy to read and
so when I am writing new stuff today and after that
is today they smile and say, David writes easy to
read stuff, let's download this because it looks
neat but its really simple stuff.

> out some instructions on doing it.  Look into the
> display appl that
> is with the *.lib module... *THAT* is how it's done.
> >
> >Sincerely,
> >David W.
> >
> >Hey Dale, I'm gonna rewrite my page because it's
> >still got a lot of QBasic stuff in it.  I'll post
> all
> >my stuff there so if you want it you can find it
> more
> >easily.  Okay !
> >
> >__________________________________________________
> 
> I reckon I'd better clean up my webjump site & add
> some of this to it.
> <G>
> TomR.

GFA is really an easy good using language but-
Tom, you just jumped way over me and everyone else
did to and I couldn't cause I don't know how.

That's all.  I'll like and know and maybe help write
stuff for everyone in it later, but I need to learn
some of the hard things you were .RES and the like.

Okay !  :)

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Any user attempting to compile *.rc to *.res using MS's rc.exe
is in for a brutal shock if using my re_gen07 routine to make
the *.rc file!

Borland's Resource Work Shop *WILL* compile it, but MS's will NOT!

I have to go back & re-study the format of an *.rc that is workable
w/ MS's re.exe.  I inadvertantly set up shop for Borland's & the
format must be drastically different.

NUTS!!  I thought I had a solution for those who don't have Borland's.
The MS files total about 300K (3 of them) & I was going to make them
available to all who need them.

Stick w/ Borland on *this* subject.  Going w/ MS means having to have 
a ton of *.h files & a totally screwed-up, complex *.rc file to work
from.

http://www.inprise.com/wheretobuy/pricelist.html

The URL above will take you to Inprise, which now owns Borland.  The
resource work shop costs about $70U.S.

Sorry... I thot I had a quick, easy solution.  I goofed.  I'm still
trying to decipher the crazy format for a *.res file so I can possibly
write a "compiler" that will work w/ the *.rc file I can now generate.

Boy, these brick walls are hell on my face & head!
<G>
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:


--- Tom Record
<tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> David
> Welcome to GFA-W(16)!  If it doesn't eat you alive,
> it'll fill your
> head with ideas, desires & wishes!  If things stick
> as you progress,
> you can do some wonderous things with it!
> <G>
> TomR.

Hi Tom !  Well you are welcome to in this GFA16 !

Russell said I write good stuff in QBasic, said to
leave it and try out GFA - I said I would but he
had to prove and show me some things before I would-
1) Play .MID/.WAV background really really easy
2) WindowLock
3) Compile to .EXE
4) Have lots and lots of memory cause of Scenario !

Well he did and that is how I am now here-

I also got without me asking for it-
1) 64 million colors !
2) Faster .EXE than QBasic !
3) true Win95/98 runtimes !
4) Lots of good help files, that's you Dale !  :)

Thank you every one I'm glad to be here !

Sincerely,
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
David
Don't sweat not understanding *everything* you see on the list.  You
are on the border of "C" here & there are a lot of things QBasic, 
etc., never touch on because you're now working in Windows.  QBasic
is still limited to 16 colors (DOS) unless 3rd-party libraries are
used to get up to only 256 (VGA) colors.  *.dlls, etc., are beyond
the QBasic programmer's relm & reach.  I gave up on QB v4.5 long ago!

You are pretty talented with what you know & talk 'way over my head
quite often.  Relax, Chum... one of these days the pieces will fit
together & start making sense.

GFA-W(16) can include a *.res file in an *.exe or *.dll, but can't
generate one.  That's my current project... writing a *.res compiler.

Instead of having to code your menus, string tables (message statements)
etc., into your *.exe, you can put them (& images) into a *.res file &
link that in at compile time.  Fundamentally, for "simple" things like
screensavers & animations, it means a bigger *.exe, but NO images to
get lost or messed up... They are inside the *.exe.

Working in the interpretor/editor, you have to have the actual images
available because the interpretor can't utilize *.res files.

GOTO is called "spaghetti programming" & is hard to follow.  However...
a lot of things are damned difficult to do otherwise!  Some programmers
can't put out anything that doesn't contain dozens of PROCEDUREs that 
are called "conditional"s... GOTO can be conditional (IF ....), but it's
results are unconditional because you don't come back.  PROCEDUREs and
FUNCTIONs always have to return to the statement following the one that
sent you there... something that is NOT always desireable.

I had years of computer experience before I got my first one to play with.
My problem was that I always had an operator handy to run things thru the
hardware I fixed or built so I never had to touch a key.  I never had an
idea I would ever be writing software until I wrote a genealogy program &
a bookkeeping program in TRSBASIC for a RatShak Model 4 back in 1984-85.

Hang in there, Sport.  A lot of what you develop will be used by others
who are NOT programming games & such.  ALL knowledge is valuable!
<G>
TomR.

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List Member Pat Bullman <pbullman@norex.com.au> wrote:
Tom,

>
>Working in the interpretor/editor, you have to have the actual images
>available because the interpretor can't utilize *.res files.
>

John Findlay has shown me a very easy method of using *.res 'resources' in
the interpreter.  John has several demo's that show how it's done, and I
think he's OK about showing the code.  It's very easy and sooooo powerful!

Pat


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> List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>
> --- Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> > List Member Tom Record
> > <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> > David
> > Welcome to GFA-W(16)!  If it doesn't eat you alive,
> > it'll fill your
> > head with ideas, desires & wishes!  If things stick
> > as you progress,
> > you can do some wonderous things with it!
> > <G>
> > TomR.
>
> Hi Tom !  Well you are welcome to in this GFA16 !
>
> Russell said I write good stuff in QBasic, said to
> leave it and try out GFA - I said I would but he
> had to prove and show me some things before I would-
> 1) Play .MID/.WAV background really really easy
> 2) WindowLock
> 3) Compile to .EXE
> 4) Have lots and lots of memory cause of Scenario !
>
> Well he did and that is how I am now here-
>
> I also got without me asking for it-
> 1) 64 million colors !
> 2) Faster .EXE than QBasic !
> 3) true Win95/98 runtimes !
> 4) Lots of good help files, that's you Dale !  :)
>
> Thank you every one I'm glad to be here !
>
> Sincerely,
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--- Tom Record
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> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Any user attempting to compile *.rc to *.res using
> MS's rc.exe
> is in for a brutal shock if using my re_gen07
> routine to make
> the *.rc file!
> 
> Borland's Resource Work Shop *WILL* compile it, but
> MS's will NOT!

Greets Tom:

Ahhm..  Do you have a compiler you can send in this
Email for everyone ?

> 
> I have to go back & re-study the format of an *.rc
> that is workable
> w/ MS's re.exe.  I inadvertantly set up shop for
> Borland's & the
> format must be drastically different.

This is why I hate using others things because if
they break, I don't have an easy way to fix them.

> 
> NUTS!!  I thought I had a solution for those who
> don't have Borland's.
> The MS files total about 300K (3 of them) & I was
> going to make them
> available to all who need them.
> 
> Stick w/ Borland on *this* subject.  Going w/ MS
> means having to have 
> a ton of *.h files & a totally screwed-up, complex
> *.rc file to work
> from.
> 
> http://www.inprise.com/wheretobuy/pricelist.html
> 
> The URL above will take you to Inprise, which now
> owns Borland.  The
> resource work shop costs about $70U.S.

It costs $70 for a Resource Compiler ?
I'm just trying to understand this..

> 
> Sorry... I thot I had a quick, easy solution.  I
> goofed.  I'm still
> trying to decipher the crazy format for a *.res file
> so I can possibly
> write a "compiler" that will work w/ the *.rc file I
> can now generate.
> 
> Boy, these brick walls are hell on my face & head!
> <G>
> TomR.

Tom, please don't beat your head against a wall
literally.  I have all my life and even though I
haven't hurt myself seriously yet I can if I'm not
careful.

Tom, this is why I always try to have everything
self-contained.  I'm not happy that the MIDI player
and WAV player require MCISEQ.DRV and MCIWAV.DRV,
but they are small enough I can include them every
time with any audio package.

Okay !  :)  Dad called, it's Omni Theatre we're going
to.  If you haven't been, it's a kinna round screen
3-D theatre that seats about 1,000 people really
put up off the ground and it looks like you're
there.  I went onetime years ago.  My Mom got
free tickets at work and that's why we're going
cause it's usually $25 a ticket !

I gave a copy of my incomplete Vector to Dale if
you wanna poke with it.  I know I really need to
be nice to everyone and strain my brain to finish
it so it really does look and work nice.  But I
don't know what to do with it except make a jukebox
screen or something..

Sincerely,
David W.

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--- Tom Record
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> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> David
> Don't sweat not understanding *everything* you see
> on the list.  You
> are on the border of "C" here & there are a lot of
> things QBasic, 
> etc., never touch on because you're now working in
> Windows.  QBasic
> is still limited to 16 colors (DOS) unless 3rd-party
> libraries are
> used to get up to only 256 (VGA) colors.  *.dlls,
> etc., are beyond
> the QBasic programmer's relm & reach.  I gave up on
> QB v4.5 long ago!

Well, QB4.5 was my good friend for such a long time.
The only reason I kept with it is because it truly
was the ultimate programming language more so than
any computer I ever was on or have been on and
yesterday.  If F-Basic for Commodore Amiga hadn't
closed shop several years ago, I'd still be with
them and not doing this IBM-thing.  Chris, my good
videogame friend and excellent watcher of Anime
cartoons :)  showed me QB4.5 years ago.

In many ways, it's the most powerful language even
to today for people who are C++ phobic and truly
want to type =EVERYTHING= for the coding and never
use the mouse to program.

> 
> You are pretty talented with what you know & talk
> 'way over my head
> quite often.  Relax, Chum... one of these days the
> pieces will fit
> together & start making sense.

Well Tom, please let me know if there is something
in my code that doesn't make sense cause I allways
want to make it really =EASY= to understand.

> 
> GFA-W(16) can include a *.res file in an *.exe or
> *.dll, but can't
> generate one.  That's my current project... writing
> a *.res compiler.

Gustavo just told me that today.  If you wanna pop
the GFA16 compiler over here that'd be great !  :)

> 
> Instead of having to code your menus, string tables
> (message statements)
> etc., into your *.exe, you can put them (& images)
> into a *.res file &
> link that in at compile time.  Fundamentally, for
> "simple" things like
> screensavers & animations, it means a bigger *.exe,
> but NO images to
> get lost or messed up... They are inside the *.exe.

I guess that's sorta what I was doing in Vector.
But the math really started hurting my head,
literally.  My psyc says I've got so many head
injuries I can actually hurt if I think too much on
things.  Schizoaffective he calls it or something.

It also means really hi and up and lo down mood
swings.  Yah, some days I could bite through nails
I'm so angry mad at everything and other days I'm
so up, you wanna go a-head and tie lead weights to
my shoes !  :)  I'm taking meds for it..

> 
> Working in the interpretor/editor, you have to have
> the actual images
> available because the interpretor can't utilize
> *.res files.
> 
> GOTO is called "spaghetti programming" & is hard to
> follow.  However...
> a lot of things are damned difficult to do
> otherwise!  Some programmers
> can't put out anything that doesn't contain dozens
> of PROCEDUREs that 
> are called "conditional"s... GOTO can be conditional
> (IF ....), but it's
> results are unconditional because you don't come
> back.  PROCEDUREs and
> FUNCTIONs always have to return to the statement
> following the one that
> sent you there... something that is NOT always
> desireable.

I use GOTOs as a kinna last resort.  There is
TRY and CATCH in GFA16 I need to sit down and now
have a good look at it.  It will replace my usage of
GOTO.
> 
> I had years of computer experience before I got my
> first one to play with.
> My problem was that I always had an operator handy
> to run things thru the
> hardware I fixed or built so I never had to touch a
> key.  I never had an
> idea I would ever be writing software until I wrote
> a genealogy program &
> a bookkeeping program in TRSBASIC for a RatShak
> Model 4 back in 1984-85.
> 
> Hang in there, Sport.  A lot of what you develop
> will be used by others
> who are NOT programming games & such.  ALL knowledge
> is valuable!

Well that's good, you guys are =REALLY= gonna like
LowBlur !  Making Marbleized/Wood Panel/
Foresty/Mountain-like/Smoke/Fog/Crystal <-
you choose, backgrounds and screens is really easy
with the power of the single pixel.  :)

> <G>
> TomR.

Thanks, Tom.  I guess I wouldn't have felt so put out
if you said requires GFA16 compiler, but probably
everyone here has it except me so it's not your
fault.  :)

Sincerely,
David W.

GOTTA RUN !  I'll answer all Email after this when I
get back.  Dad's looking for me in 1 hr !
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List Member "John Findlay" <John.Findlay@Byte-it.net> wrote:

Tom,

> Sorry... I thot I had a quick, easy solution.  I
> goofed.  I'm still
> trying to decipher the crazy format for a *.res file
> so I can possibly
> write a "compiler" that will work w/ the *.rc file I
> can now generate.

I don't want to spoil your fun, but, there's no need to create an .rc to
then create a .res

A .res can be made thus;

First thing is you must get the header right - this is the main thing. Then,
you just plonk the whole of the data after the header. You could then add
another header and then more data, add infinitum.

The header is a bit tricky, no fixed length. First 4 bytes says the size of
the data of the resource, second 4 bytes says the length of the header, then
ordinal number, then string (no fixed length) etc.

Can't remember where I read this stuff now otherwise would give a complete
run-down.

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
At 11:00 AM 21/02/00 -0800, you wrote:
>List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>Greets Tom:
>
>Ahhm..  Do you have a compiler you can send in this
>Email for everyone ?
>
+++ "It's in the mill", David.  Format descriptions make very little
sense to me & what I found on *.res makes much less!
>
>
>It costs $70 for a Resource Compiler ?
>I'm just trying to understand this..
>
+++ You understood that perfectly clear.  Worth it, if you have that much
loose change laying around.
>
>
>Tom, this is why I always try to have everything
>self-contained.  I'm not happy that the MIDI player
>and WAV player require MCISEQ.DRV and MCIWAV.DRV,
>but they are small enough I can include them every
>time with any audio package.
>
+++ David, any computer that is "MM" or multimedia ready already
hast those modules.  Rule of thumb: if it has speakers, it has a
sound card... therefore it has everything already for sound.
>
>
>I gave a copy of my incomplete Vector to Dale if
>you wanna poke with it.  I know I really need to
>be nice to everyone and strain my brain to finish
>it so it really does look and work nice.  But I
>don't know what to do with it except make a jukebox
>screen or something..
>
+++ Already gone.  I *would* like to play w/ it tho... if you don't mind.
>
>Sincerely,
>David W.
>

<G>
TomR.

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Hmmmm..........
Sounds awfully much like David is pretty much "normal" to me, guys.
Whatcha think?  I really believe we *all* have days we're kissin
angels separated by days we're fightin Satan for a place to "tinkle".
>
>
>Thanks, Tom.  I guess I wouldn't have felt so put out
>if you said requires GFA16 compiler, but probably
>everyone here has it except me so it's not your
>fault.  :)
>
+++ David, you're far from the only one still working w/ the
trial version of GFA-W(16).  There are two major advantages
to having the "pro" version... the compiler, yes - definitely
advantageous because it eliminates having to send the runtime.
The other "advantage" is having the 5 manuals (a couple of them
are actually of little use if you DON'T understand "C").  The
compiler manual is pretty good.  A common problem with them is
that many examples either don't work or never show you exactly
what you need to know.  I firmly believe that they are really
holdovers from GFA-DOS & were not completely adapted to Windows.

Very few GFA-W(16) users have the resource compiler (more $$$$$),
so I'm trying to come up with at least images & VERSINFO.  The
system makes it easy to just pop a *.res module in & not have to
rewrite everything you use.  By having *.rc to *.res in GFA-W(16),
any changes needed in the *.res would be much more simple.  No big
requirement for $$$ outlay for resources then, just change the *.rc
& recompile to a new *.res.

I'm actually working harder for "the group" than I am for myself.
I've got to concentrate more on getting my "products" online &
bringing in a dollar to two.  The local grocery store demands I
pay w/ real dollars <G>.
<G>
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
John
Thanks.  I was believing it was something like that but still haven't
deciphered the flippin format description well enough to get there.

Roland just sent me a *.lst that does the trick for user-defined.  We
will get it all straightened out shortly.
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At 09:21 PM 21/02/00 -0000, you wrote:
>List Member "John Findlay" <John.Findlay@Byte-it.net> wrote:
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>Tom,
>
>> Sorry... I thot I had a quick, easy solution.  I
>> goofed.  I'm still
>> trying to decipher the crazy format for a *.res file
>> so I can possibly
>> write a "compiler" that will work w/ the *.rc file I
>> can now generate.
>
>I don't want to spoil your fun, but, there's no need to create an .rc to
>then create a .res
>
>A .res can be made thus;
>
>First thing is you must get the header right - this is the main thing. Then,
>you just plonk the whole of the data after the header. You could then add
>another header and then more data, add infinitum.
>
>The header is a bit tricky, no fixed length. First 4 bytes says the size of
>the data of the resource, second 4 bytes says the length of the header, then
>ordinal number, then string (no fixed length) etc.
>
>Can't remember where I read this stuff now otherwise would give a complete
>run-down.
>
>John
>
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Hey
If you've downloaded from Dale the minijpeg.zip, Roland caught an error
as follows:

I forgot to call ~UnlockResource(hRes&)
before calling ~FreeResource(hRes&).

Please add that top line.  I'll send Dale a corrected copy later this
evening so future users will be OK.

Other interesting note:

Roland has written a user *.res compiler that bypasses the *.rc stage.
I'll include it in the upload to Dale.  We're getting there, boys & girls!

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
The error reported before is NOT in the version that is in minijpeg.zip!
I goofed.  I haven't made a successful compile of another version, one
that displays multiple images... *THAT* one has the error.  When I get
it working, I'll send it to Dale.

Roland
The one *you* compiled works fine, leaving me to think that perhaps the
error comes from *my* *.rc -> *.res.

I've not tried adding user-defined resources via Borland, but have altered
several *.res files that contained *.bmps.

I'll try using your *.res compiler, instead.
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:


--- Pat Bullman <pbullman@norex.com.au> wrote:
> List Member Pat Bullman <pbullman@norex.com.au>
> wrote:
> Tom,
> 
> >
> >Working in the interpretor/editor, you have to have
> the actual images
> >available because the interpretor can't utilize
> *.res files.
> >
> 
> John Findlay has shown me a very easy method of
> using *.res 'resources' in
> the interpreter.  John has several demo's that show
> how it's done, and I
> think he's OK about showing the code.  It's very
> easy and sooooo powerful!
> 
> Pat

Greets people !
Well, the OmniTheatre was a blast, literally.  Big
screen up at least 20 people tall on all round and
you sit way up high, they had a jet fighter scene
going really really fast.  Man everyone freaked out
including me it was so kick !  :)

Okay, well unless the gates of heaven open up and
show me this resource stuff, I'm just going to stick
with Data Statements..  Okay.

I have a different vector program I'm working on,
much simpler, and much more useful for lots of
good things !  If I can get it working really good
I'll put that out too with a sample, (I hope I'm
saying this right), "RESOURCE file".  (Sounds good
saying that!) :)

Remember coloring books ?  Well, this is a little
like that, but it's keyed up for my old picture
reader/writer so I need to take that out and
put in bitmap reading next.

Sincerely,
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:


--- Dale Bryant <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
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> wrote:
> David, we are glad to have you!
> 
> Dale Bryant

Thanks Dale !  It's nice to be wanted.  :)
I don't really fit in a lot of other things
except my music and family.

Okay !  Well up and coming Yah I know you all
have been very nice not to chew me out cause I
=STILL= haven't put out the UNZIPPER yet.

It makes use of Bit8To7 and ColorVec that is
coming pretty soon.  Followed by LowBlur and
Smoked Glass & Magic Tricks !

And the question I ask now is:

If I use

GET 0,0,_X,_Y,BMP&

How can I use POKE or POKEW/POKEL to BMP&
to directly modify its contents ?

I just found out that GFA is not slow by any
means, but it's actually quite fast.

Try this out:

print"*1"
FOR I=0 TO 479
  FOR J=0 TO 639
    A=RAND(2)
  NEXT J
NEXT I
PRINT"*2"

This shows how fast 307200 dots can be accessed !
It's the ~SETPIXEL that is slow.  Directly POKING
to BMP& with X+Y*_X*3 which points to 3 bytes of
Red/Green/Blue, I can also write:

Metallic Peel - incredible way to present bitmaps !
Fireblast - very realistic looking dancing fireballs !

Which requires I be able to read/write every single
pixel on the screen in less time than 1/10th of a
second.

But ~SETPIXEL is much too slow for this.

Okay, thanks !

Sincerely,
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--- Tom Record
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> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> At 11:00 AM 21/02/00 -0800, you wrote:
> >List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >Greets Tom:
> >
> >Ahhm..  Do you have a compiler you can send in this
> >Email for everyone ?
> >
> +++ "It's in the mill", David.  Format descriptions
> make very little
> sense to me & what I found on *.res makes much less!

So its hard for you to know how to do it too !
I feel better.  :)

> >
> >
> >It costs $70 for a Resource Compiler ?
> >I'm just trying to understand this..
> >
> +++ You understood that perfectly clear.  Worth it,
> if you have that much
> loose change laying around.

Maybe $70 is okay for GFA Compiler, but a resource
compiler is that the rc(S) menu thing in GFA ?

Playing with it a bit..  Is it a vector generator ?

> >
> >
> >Tom, this is why I always try to have everything
> >self-contained.  I'm not happy that the MIDI player
> >and WAV player require MCISEQ.DRV and MCIWAV.DRV,
> >but they are small enough I can include them every
> >time with any audio package.
> >
> +++ David, any computer that is "MM" or multimedia
> ready already
> hast those modules.  Rule of thumb: if it has
> speakers, it has a
> sound card... therefore it has everything already
> for sound.

Dad didn't have those two .DRV files.  But he never
has anything good to play games in on his computer!
:)

> >
> >
> >I gave a copy of my incomplete Vector to Dale if
> >you wanna poke with it.  I know I really need to
> >be nice to everyone and strain my brain to finish
> >it so it really does look and work nice.  But I
> >don't know what to do with it except make a jukebox
> >screen or something..
> >
> +++ Already gone.  I *would* like to play w/ it
> tho... if you don't mind.

Okay, it's not public domain stuff.  I don't want
this kind of crappy stuff I write for myself to go
too far.  ColorVec will be much more useful.

If you do anything good in this Vector, please
let me know.  I can't see beyond using it for the
Jukebox screen-that's it only.

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List Member Vogel Michael <vo@schoeller.at> wrote:
So, 

now I checked it with "pure" WfW 3.11, and the $118 message appears also...
All you have to do is to set a windows to minimized, pressing Alt-Tab to
switch to another application, and once more Alt-Tab to switch back. The
icon get lost, and the $118 message will be received permanently until you
re-establish the icon...

Michael


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> Von: 	Russell Hayward[SMTP:russ@softhome.net]
> Gesendet: 	Do, 17. Feb 2000 21:12
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> Betreff: 	Re: [gfabasic] Minimized Icons...
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> List Member "Russell Hayward" <russ@softhome.net> wrote:
> Hi Vogel,
> 
> > What, if you don't have a taskbar (i.e. Win 3.x) ?
> > However, I found that message $118 (decimal 280) is sent in thecase (no
> > idea, what WM_ message that is), catching this message allows you to
> send
> a
> > WM_ICONIZE message which let the icon appear...
> 
> I've looked everywhere I can (Win 95 and Win 3.1 headers) and can't find
> what this message is. Could it be something to do with Calmira? The only
> thing I can find close is WM_SHOWWINDOW which is 0x0018, only one digit
> out.
> :-D
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List Member "John Findlay" <John.Findlay@Byte-it.net> wrote:
David,

> How can I use POKE or POKEW/POKEL to BMP&
> to directly modify its contents ?

You will have to use API's for this.

GetDIBits() will get the bitmap data and put it into a memory block. You can
then peek/poke about, then you have to put it back again with SetDIBits()

You will have to take account of the screen depth, 16, 24 or 32 bits.

If you don't have a Window API help file (you'll need it) there are web
sites where it can be downloaded.

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
At 09:05 PM 21/02/00 -0800, you wrote:
>
>
>So its hard for you to know how to do it too !
>I feel better.  :)
>
+++ There's NOTHING easy but confusion!
>
>Maybe $70 is okay for GFA Compiler, but a resource
>compiler is that the rc(S) menu thing in GFA ?
>
+++ Nope... that's for generating dialogs, etc.
>Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Vector.zip"
>
>Attachment Converted: C:\WORLDNET\DOWNLOAD\Vector.zip
>
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:


--- John Findlay <John.Findlay@Byte-it.net> wrote:
> List Member "John Findlay"
> <John.Findlay@Byte-it.net> wrote:
> David,
> 
> > How can I use POKE or POKEW/POKEL to BMP&
> > to directly modify its contents ?
> 
> You will have to use API's for this.
> 
> GetDIBits() will get the bitmap data and put it into
> a memory block. You can
> then peek/poke about, then you have to put it back
> again with SetDIBits()
> 
> You will have to take account of the screen depth,
> 16, 24 or 32 bits.
> 
> If you don't have a Window API help file (you'll
> need it) there are web
> sites where it can be downloaded.
> 
> John

Thanks John !
This helps a bit..
I remember Russell was trying to explain to me the
DC thingie and finally he wrote a quick demo program
which really showed me.

Could you please write me (and probably others)
a simple demo to demonstrate POKEing directly to
a BMP& or _DC(1) ?

Thanks !

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:


--- Tom Record
<tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> At 09:05 PM 21/02/00 -0800, you wrote:
> >
> >
> >So its hard for you to know how to do it too !
> >I feel better.  :)
> >
> +++ There's NOTHING easy but confusion!
> >
> >Maybe $70 is okay for GFA Compiler, but a resource
> >compiler is that the rc(S) menu thing in GFA ?
> >
> +++ Nope... that's for generating dialogs, etc.
> >Content-Disposition: attachment;
> filename="Vector.zip"

Well, Magic Unzipper is all done so I can now store
and retrieve .PIC files which are a tad smaller than
.GIFs so the part of .GIFs is okay now.

Dialogs ?  That's just a bit of text in the center
of a screen with a nice box.  How hard can that be ?
:)

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member "Roland Walter" <roland@rowalt.de> wrote:

> Other interesting note:
> 
> Roland has written a user *.res compiler that bypasses the *.rc stage.
> I'll include it in the upload to Dale.  We're getting there, boys & girls!

In work state!!!!! It's more a skeleton to do more with
it. Tom did get this night the next version with some
error corrections and so on.
I hope to add support of icons but it's a problem
because of bad documentations (I have only those from
32bit *.res files).
Momently user defined and bitmap resources are handeled.

Bye, Roland

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Subject: [gfabasic] Pascal Code
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List Member Pat Bullman <pbullman@norex.com.au> wrote:
Can anyone please help me?  I'm trying to convert a pascal program to GFA.
Most of the code I can understand, but the definitions have got me beat.

I would like someone to walk me through the following code:

/* type
/*   randomStuff = 0..maxint;
/*   keyType= 0..maxint;
/*   valueType = 0..maxint;
/*   levelNum = 1..cMaxLevel&;
/*   node = ^nodeRec;
/*   list = ^listRec;
/*   listRec = record
/*      level : integer;
/*      header : node;
/*      end;
/*   nodeRec = record
/*       key: keyType;
/*       value: valueType;
/*       case levelNum of
/*         1: (fwd1: array [1..1] of node;);
/*         2: (fwd2: array [1..2] of node;);
/*         3: (fwd3: array [1..3] of node;);
/*         4: (fwd4: array [1..4] of node;);
/*         5: (fwd5: array [1..5] of node;);
/*         6: (fwd6: array [1..6] of node;);
/*         7: (fwd7: array [1..7] of node;);
/*         8: (fwd8: array [1..8] of node;);
/*         9: (fwd9: array [1..9] of node;);
/*        10: (fwd10: array [1..10] of node;);
/*        11: (fwd11: array [1..11] of node;);
/*        12: (fwd12: array [1..12] of node;);
/*        13: (fwd13: array [1..13] of node;);
/*        14: (fwd14: array [1..14] of node;);
/*        15: (fwd15: array [1..15] of node;);
/*        16: (fwd: array [1..16] of node;)
/*       end;

I gather that

/*   randomStuff = 0..maxint;
/*   keyType= 0..maxint;
/*   valueType = 0..maxint;
/*   levelNum = 1..cMaxLevel&;

is just declaring variables and their range.  I can't find a reference to
maxint is that a Pascal keyword?

Am I correct in assuming the following is a declaration that node is a
pointer to a nodeRec and list is a pointer to a listRec.

/*   node = ^nodeRec;
/*   list = ^listRec;


The code:

/*   listRec = record
/*      level : integer;
/*      header : node;
/*      end;

does this declare a TYPE record

TYPE listRec
-long      INTEGER
-header    LONG (pointer to a NODE record)
END TYPE


The following has really got me beat:

/*   nodeRec = record
/*       key: keyType;
/*       value: valueType;
/*       case levelNum of
/*         1: (fwd1: array [1..1] of node;);
/*         2: (fwd2: array [1..2] of node;);
/*         3: (fwd3: array [1..3] of node;);
/*         4: (fwd4: array [1..4] of node;);
/*         5: (fwd5: array [1..5] of node;);
/*         6: (fwd6: array [1..6] of node;);
/*         7: (fwd7: array [1..7] of node;);
/*         8: (fwd8: array [1..8] of node;);
/*         9: (fwd9: array [1..9] of node;);
/*        10: (fwd10: array [1..10] of node;);
/*        11: (fwd11: array [1..11] of node;);
/*        12: (fwd12: array [1..12] of node;);
/*        13: (fwd13: array [1..13] of node;);
/*        14: (fwd14: array [1..14] of node;);
/*        15: (fwd15: array [1..15] of node;);
/*        16: (fwd: array [1..16] of node;)
/*       end;

Can anyone please decipher this for me, please?


Pat 

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Subject: Re: [gfabasic] Pascal Code
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Pat
What region of China does that come from?  Whew!
<G>
TomR.



At 01:37 PM 23/02/00 +1100, you wrote:
>List Member Pat Bullman <pbullman@norex.com.au> wrote:
>Can anyone please help me?  I'm trying to convert a pascal program to GFA.
>Most of the code I can understand, but the definitions have got me beat.
>
>I would like someone to walk me through the following code:
>
>/* type
>/*   randomStuff = 0..maxint;
>/*   keyType= 0..maxint;
>/*   valueType = 0..maxint;
>/*   levelNum = 1..cMaxLevel&;
>/*   node = ^nodeRec;
>/*   list = ^listRec;
>/*   listRec = record
>/*      level : integer;
>/*      header : node;
>/*      end;
>/*   nodeRec = record
>/*       key: keyType;
>/*       value: valueType;
>/*       case levelNum of
>/*         1: (fwd1: array [1..1] of node;);
>/*         2: (fwd2: array [1..2] of node;);
>/*         3: (fwd3: array [1..3] of node;);
>/*         4: (fwd4: array [1..4] of node;);
>/*         5: (fwd5: array [1..5] of node;);
>/*         6: (fwd6: array [1..6] of node;);
>/*         7: (fwd7: array [1..7] of node;);
>/*         8: (fwd8: array [1..8] of node;);
>/*         9: (fwd9: array [1..9] of node;);
>/*        10: (fwd10: array [1..10] of node;);
>/*        11: (fwd11: array [1..11] of node;);
>/*        12: (fwd12: array [1..12] of node;);
>/*        13: (fwd13: array [1..13] of node;);
>/*        14: (fwd14: array [1..14] of node;);
>/*        15: (fwd15: array [1..15] of node;);
>/*        16: (fwd: array [1..16] of node;)
>/*       end;
>
>I gather that
>
>/*   randomStuff = 0..maxint;
>/*   keyType= 0..maxint;
>/*   valueType = 0..maxint;
>/*   levelNum = 1..cMaxLevel&;
>
>is just declaring variables and their range.  I can't find a reference to
>maxint is that a Pascal keyword?
>
>Am I correct in assuming the following is a declaration that node is a
>pointer to a nodeRec and list is a pointer to a listRec.
>
>/*   node = ^nodeRec;
>/*   list = ^listRec;
>
>
>The code:
>
>/*   listRec = record
>/*      level : integer;
>/*      header : node;
>/*      end;
>
>does this declare a TYPE record
>
>TYPE listRec
>-long      INTEGER
>-header    LONG (pointer to a NODE record)
>END TYPE
>
>
>The following has really got me beat:
>
>/*   nodeRec = record
>/*       key: keyType;
>/*       value: valueType;
>/*       case levelNum of
>/*         1: (fwd1: array [1..1] of node;);
>/*         2: (fwd2: array [1..2] of node;);
>/*         3: (fwd3: array [1..3] of node;);
>/*         4: (fwd4: array [1..4] of node;);
>/*         5: (fwd5: array [1..5] of node;);
>/*         6: (fwd6: array [1..6] of node;);
>/*         7: (fwd7: array [1..7] of node;);
>/*         8: (fwd8: array [1..8] of node;);
>/*         9: (fwd9: array [1..9] of node;);
>/*        10: (fwd10: array [1..10] of node;);
>/*        11: (fwd11: array [1..11] of node;);
>/*        12: (fwd12: array [1..12] of node;);
>/*        13: (fwd13: array [1..13] of node;);
>/*        14: (fwd14: array [1..14] of node;);
>/*        15: (fwd15: array [1..15] of node;);
>/*        16: (fwd: array [1..16] of node;)
>/*       end;
>
>Can anyone please decipher this for me, please?
>
>
>Pat 
>
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List Member Vogel Michael <vo@schoeller.at> wrote:
Hi,

"type" in Pascal just create a memory saving variable type, which allows you
to do programming in an easier (not stranger) way. 
However, "type randomstuff = 0..maxint" means to declare a variable type
which allows to get values between 0 and 32767, so if a variable x has this
type you can use a simple positive integer for it.
The "^" is just a variable of the type longinteger which is used for memory
addresses to point to the record structures.
And the record structure can be done in GFA nearly in a similar way, look at
your GFA-help file searching for TYPE...

Michael

> ----------
> Von: 	Pat Bullman[SMTP:pbullman@norex.com.au]
> Gesendet: 	Mi, 23. Feb 2000 03:37
> An: 	gfabasic@gfa.net
> Betreff: 	[gfabasic] Pascal Code
> 
> List Member Pat Bullman <pbullman@norex.com.au> wrote:
> Can anyone please help me?  I'm trying to convert a pascal program to GFA.
> Most of the code I can understand, but the definitions have got me beat.
> 
> I would like someone to walk me through the following code:
> 
> /* type
> /*   randomStuff = 0..maxint;
> /*   keyType= 0..maxint;
> /*   valueType = 0..maxint;
> /*   levelNum = 1..cMaxLevel&;
> /*   node = ^nodeRec;
> /*   list = ^listRec;
> /*   listRec = record
> /*      level : integer;
> /*      header : node;
> /*      end;
> /*   nodeRec = record
> /*       key: keyType;
> /*       value: valueType;
> /*       case levelNum of
> /*         1: (fwd1: array [1..1] of node;);
> /*         2: (fwd2: array [1..2] of node;);
> /*         3: (fwd3: array [1..3] of node;);
> /*         4: (fwd4: array [1..4] of node;);
> /*         5: (fwd5: array [1..5] of node;);
> /*         6: (fwd6: array [1..6] of node;);
> /*         7: (fwd7: array [1..7] of node;);
> /*         8: (fwd8: array [1..8] of node;);
> /*         9: (fwd9: array [1..9] of node;);
> /*        10: (fwd10: array [1..10] of node;);
> /*        11: (fwd11: array [1..11] of node;);
> /*        12: (fwd12: array [1..12] of node;);
> /*        13: (fwd13: array [1..13] of node;);
> /*        14: (fwd14: array [1..14] of node;);
> /*        15: (fwd15: array [1..15] of node;);
> /*        16: (fwd: array [1..16] of node;)
> /*       end;
> 
> I gather that
> 
> /*   randomStuff = 0..maxint;
> /*   keyType= 0..maxint;
> /*   valueType = 0..maxint;
> /*   levelNum = 1..cMaxLevel&;
> 
> is just declaring variables and their range.  I can't find a reference to
> maxint is that a Pascal keyword?
> 
> Am I correct in assuming the following is a declaration that node is a
> pointer to a nodeRec and list is a pointer to a listRec.
> 
> /*   node = ^nodeRec;
> /*   list = ^listRec;
> 
> 
> The code:
> 
> /*   listRec = record
> /*      level : integer;
> /*      header : node;
> /*      end;
> 
> does this declare a TYPE record
> 
> TYPE listRec
> -long      INTEGER
> -header    LONG (pointer to a NODE record)
> END TYPE
> 
> 
> The following has really got me beat:
> 
> /*   nodeRec = record
> /*       key: keyType;
> /*       value: valueType;
> /*       case levelNum of
> /*         1: (fwd1: array [1..1] of node;);
> /*         2: (fwd2: array [1..2] of node;);
> /*         3: (fwd3: array [1..3] of node;);
> /*         4: (fwd4: array [1..4] of node;);
> /*         5: (fwd5: array [1..5] of node;);
> /*         6: (fwd6: array [1..6] of node;);
> /*         7: (fwd7: array [1..7] of node;);
> /*         8: (fwd8: array [1..8] of node;);
> /*         9: (fwd9: array [1..9] of node;);
> /*        10: (fwd10: array [1..10] of node;);
> /*        11: (fwd11: array [1..11] of node;);
> /*        12: (fwd12: array [1..12] of node;);
> /*        13: (fwd13: array [1..13] of node;);
> /*        14: (fwd14: array [1..14] of node;);
> /*        15: (fwd15: array [1..15] of node;);
> /*        16: (fwd: array [1..16] of node;)
> /*       end;
> 
> Can anyone please decipher this for me, please?
> 
> 
> Pat 
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David,

> Could you please write me (and probably others)
> a simple demo to demonstrate POKEing directly to
> a BMP& or _DC(1) ?

Unfortunately you can't poke directly to the dislay ram in normal windows,
you
need Direct X for that.

Russell has a very good grasp of this stuff, if you ask him nicely I'm sure
he'll take you through it. Attached is a small listing to get you started,
it works on 32 bits (and maybe 24 bits).

Actually, GetDIBits() & SetDIBits() are for Win32, for Win16 you use
GetBitmapBits() and SetBitmapBits()

Regards,

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TYPE BITMAP:
- WORD bmType
- WORD bmWidth
- WORD bmHeight
- WORD bmWidthBytes
- BYTE bmPlanes
- BYTE bmBitsPixel
- LONG bmBits
ENDTYPE
BITMAP: bm.

TITLEW #1," BitMap RGB Demo"

OPENW #1, 2, 0, _X - 10, _Y - 10, ~15

hFont& =3D CreateFont(-10, 0, 0, 0, FW_DONTCARE, 0, 0, 0, ANSI_CHARSET, =
OUT_DEFAULT_PRECIS, CLIP_DEFAULT_PRECIS, PROOF_QUALITY, FW_DONTCARE, =
"Courier")

SETFONT hFont&

' Purge message backlog so WM_PAINT doesn't spoil the show.
PEEKEVENT
PEEKEVENT
PEEKEVENT

hBmp& =3D LOADBMP("d:\image12.bmp")

~GetObject(hBmp&, LEN(bm.), *bm.)

PUT 1, 70, hBmp&

BitPixel& =3D GetDeviceCaps(_DC(1), BITSPIXEL)

PRINT BitPixel&
PRINT bm.bmBitsPixel

lpbuff% =3D MALLOC(bm.bmWidthBytes * bm.bmHeight)

~GetBitmapBits(hBmp&, bm.bmWidthBytes * bm.bmHeight ,lpbuff%)

@LightenRGB(10)

PRINT "Size of BitMap  ";bm.bmWidthBytes * bm.bmHeight, "Change RGB by =
10%"

~SetBitmapBits(hBmp&, bm.bmWidthBytes * bm.bmHeight, lpbuff%)

PUT bm.bmWidth + 1, 70, hBmp&

PRINT "Press 'ESC'"

DO
  GETEVENT
  EXIT IF GetAsyncKeyState(VK_ESCAPE)
UNTIL MENU(1) =3D 4

~MFREE(lpbuff%)

FREEBMP hBmp&

SETFONT SYSTEM_FONT

~DeleteObject(hFont&)

CLOSEW #1

EDIT

PROCEDURE LightenRGB(Percent&)
  LOCAL Height& =3D bm.bmHeight
  LOCAL Width& =3D bm.bmWidthBytes

  nADD& =3D 255 / 100 * Percent&

  FOR ny& =3D 0 TO Height& - 1

    FOR nx& =3D 0 TO Width& - 1

      ' Use _Huge for large mem blocks
      n& =3D BYTE{_Huge(lpbuff%, nx& + ny& * Width&)}
      n& +=3D nADD&

      ' IF is faster than MIN/MAX or IMIN/IMAX
      IF n& > 255 THEN n& =3D 255

      BYTE{_Huge(lpbuff%, nx& + ny& * Width&)} =3D n&

    NEXT nx&

  NEXT ny&

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China? That is Outer Mongolia. I have to get off of here and look at some
GFA code just to calm my nerves.

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> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Pat
> What region of China does that come from?  Whew!
> <G>
> TomR.
>
>
>
> At 01:37 PM 23/02/00 +1100, you wrote:
> >List Member Pat Bullman <pbullman@norex.com.au> wrote:
> >Can anyone please help me?  I'm trying to convert a pascal program to
GFA.
> >Most of the code I can understand, but the definitions have got me beat.
> >
> >I would like someone to walk me through the following code:
> >
> >/* type
> >/*   randomStuff = 0..maxint;
> >/*   keyType= 0..maxint;
> >/*   valueType = 0..maxint;
> >/*   levelNum = 1..cMaxLevel&;
> >/*   node = ^nodeRec;
> >/*   list = ^listRec;
> >/*   listRec = record
> >/*      level : integer;
> >/*      header : node;
> >/*      end;
> >/*   nodeRec = record
> >/*       key: keyType;
> >/*       value: valueType;
> >/*       case levelNum of
> >/*         1: (fwd1: array [1..1] of node;);
> >/*         2: (fwd2: array [1..2] of node;);
> >/*         3: (fwd3: array [1..3] of node;);
> >/*         4: (fwd4: array [1..4] of node;);
> >/*         5: (fwd5: array [1..5] of node;);
> >/*         6: (fwd6: array [1..6] of node;);
> >/*         7: (fwd7: array [1..7] of node;);
> >/*         8: (fwd8: array [1..8] of node;);
> >/*         9: (fwd9: array [1..9] of node;);
> >/*        10: (fwd10: array [1..10] of node;);
> >/*        11: (fwd11: array [1..11] of node;);
> >/*        12: (fwd12: array [1..12] of node;);
> >/*        13: (fwd13: array [1..13] of node;);
> >/*        14: (fwd14: array [1..14] of node;);
> >/*        15: (fwd15: array [1..15] of node;);
> >/*        16: (fwd: array [1..16] of node;)
> >/*       end;
> >
> >I gather that
> >
> >/*   randomStuff = 0..maxint;
> >/*   keyType= 0..maxint;
> >/*   valueType = 0..maxint;
> >/*   levelNum = 1..cMaxLevel&;
> >
> >is just declaring variables and their range.  I can't find a reference to
> >maxint is that a Pascal keyword?
> >
> >Am I correct in assuming the following is a declaration that node is a
> >pointer to a nodeRec and list is a pointer to a listRec.
> >
> >/*   node = ^nodeRec;
> >/*   list = ^listRec;
> >
> >
> >The code:
> >
> >/*   listRec = record
> >/*      level : integer;
> >/*      header : node;
> >/*      end;
> >
> >does this declare a TYPE record
> >
> >TYPE listRec
> >-long      INTEGER
> >-header    LONG (pointer to a NODE record)
> >END TYPE
> >
> >
> >The following has really got me beat:
> >
> >/*   nodeRec = record
> >/*       key: keyType;
> >/*       value: valueType;
> >/*       case levelNum of
> >/*         1: (fwd1: array [1..1] of node;);
> >/*         2: (fwd2: array [1..2] of node;);
> >/*         3: (fwd3: array [1..3] of node;);
> >/*         4: (fwd4: array [1..4] of node;);
> >/*         5: (fwd5: array [1..5] of node;);
> >/*         6: (fwd6: array [1..6] of node;);
> >/*         7: (fwd7: array [1..7] of node;);
> >/*         8: (fwd8: array [1..8] of node;);
> >/*         9: (fwd9: array [1..9] of node;);
> >/*        10: (fwd10: array [1..10] of node;);
> >/*        11: (fwd11: array [1..11] of node;);
> >/*        12: (fwd12: array [1..12] of node;);
> >/*        13: (fwd13: array [1..13] of node;);
> >/*        14: (fwd14: array [1..14] of node;);
> >/*        15: (fwd15: array [1..15] of node;);
> >/*        16: (fwd: array [1..16] of node;)
> >/*       end;
> >
> >Can anyone please decipher this for me, please?
> >
> >
> >Pat
> >
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:


--- John Findlay <John.Findlay@Byte-it.net> wrote:
> David,
> 
> > Could you please write me (and probably others)
> > a simple demo to demonstrate POKEing directly to
> > a BMP& or _DC(1) ?
> 
> Unfortunately you can't poke directly to the dislay
> ram in normal windows,
> you
> need Direct X for that.

  ^ Ouch !  Back yon beastie !  Don't use that X word
    around me.  :)

> 
> Russell has a very good grasp of this stuff, if you
> ask him nicely I'm sure
> he'll take you through it. Attached is a small
> listing to get you started,
> it works on 32 bits (and maybe 24 bits).

  ^ Nono..  I just want something like this:
    (If this is what you wrote sorry and Thanks !)

- - -

DEFINT A-Z
OPENW 1,_X-200,_Y-150,400,300,0
CIRCLE 50,50,50
GET 0,0,_X,_Y,BMP

FOR I=0 TO 15
  FOR J=0 TO 15
    POKE$ <<magic location!>> +
J*3+I*_X*3,CHR$(255)+CHR$(0)+CHR$(255)
  NEXT J
NEXT I

PUT 0,0,BMP
KEYGET Z

FREEBMP BMP
CLOSEW 1

- - -

The OutPut results would be a really bright purple
rectangle up in the top-left-hand corner of the
Window 1 screen that overwrites a bit of a bigger
circle.

DirectX and this other stuff I'm not gonna mess with
cause I still want it to be Win3.1 compatible.
:)

> 
> Actually, GetDIBits() & SetDIBits() are for Win32,
> for Win16 you use
> GetBitmapBits() and SetBitmapBits()

  ^ Does this POKE memory or just see how busy your
    computer display type is ?

. . .

Thanks for the info John !
If I can get really fast plotting pixels, watch out !
There's a world of neat things to do !  :)

Sincerely,
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List Member Wolfgang Schindler <w.schindler@josefstal.de> wrote:
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> List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> China? That is Outer Mongolia. I have to get off of here and look at so=
me
> GFA code just to calm my nerves.
>=20
> > List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> w=
rote:
> > Pat
> > What region of China does that come from?  Whew!

that's the kind of stuff my kids are taught in school these days.

Teachers! School!
no more comments.

mit freundlichen / herzlichen Gr=FC=DFen

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List Member "John Findlay" <John.Findlay@Byte-it.net> wrote:
David,

>   ^ Nono..  I just want something like this:
>     (If this is what you wrote sorry and Thanks !)
>     POKE$ <<magic location!>> +

I thought I'd made it clear, there is no <<magic location!>> available to
the programmer. Even if you could find it (very doubtful), windows would
probably give a peek/poke address error (or something), 'cos you're not
allowed in there. Savy?

A handle to a bitmap or a handle to a DC will not help you to determine
where to poke, it's private to windows.

> DirectX and this other stuff I'm not gonna mess with
> cause I still want it to be Win3.1 compatible.
> :)

There is a 16 bit direct draw although I've not used it. Some spark would
have to write you a 16 bit dll though.

> > Actually, GetDIBits() & SetDIBits() are for Win32,
> > for Win16 you use
> > GetBitmapBits() and SetBitmapBits()
>
>   ^ Does this POKE memory or just see how busy your
>     computer display type is ?

PEEK is realised thus;      n& = BYTE{_Huge(lpbuff%, nx& + ny& * Width&)}
POKE is realised thus;      BYTE{_Huge(lpbuff%, nx& + ny& * Width&)} = n&

You will have to use the function _Huge for memory blocks greater than 64k.

Look at the listing I sent and you will see what it does! GetBitmapBits()
get the bitmap bits from the bitmap, then you peek/poke, then
SetBitmapBits() put the bits back again, then Blit/PUT. That is the way of
it.


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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
.
Naa, *that* would put it in my genealogical past (bein an injun) &
I'd think I might recognize some of it.  *That* is all gibberish!
Sorry, Pat - I know we aren't helping you at all <G>.
<G>
TomR.


At 08:08 AM 23/02/00 -0800, you wrote:
>List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
>China? That is Outer Mongolia. I have to get off of here and look at some
>GFA code just to calm my nerves.
>
>Dale Bryant
>http://gfawhelp.gfa.net
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>adbryant@gfa.net
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>
>
>> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> Pat
>> What region of China does that come from?  Whew!
>> <G>
>> TomR.
>>
>>
>>
>> At 01:37 PM 23/02/00 +1100, you wrote:
>> >List Member Pat Bullman <pbullman@norex.com.au> wrote:
>> >Can anyone please help me?  I'm trying to convert a pascal program to
>GFA.
>> >Most of the code I can understand, but the definitions have got me beat.
>> >
>> >I would like someone to walk me through the following code:

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List Member MISER@LCIA.COM (Micromiser, Inc) wrote:
Can I throw my 2 cents worth in? (make that cents : 0..2). I've been
programmintg in Delphi for about a month. So take it for what it's worth
(cents[0])...:-)

Any two things with a : between them is defining a variable type. If
converting to GFA, I would ignore any such line that is not a string
definition ("string" in their somewhere), and just substitute a 4-byte var
name in the code.

You can probably just substitute GFA 4-byte vars (%) for all those variable
types including the record variables and ^pointers and they will work in the
GFA code. I've found that, in Delphi, there are a slew of 4-byte variable
types you must observe in Delphi, but that all work fine as generic 4-byte
variables in GFA. A totally unnecessary complication in Delphi, but that's
PASCAL for you.

If incrementing pointer variables, like ^var+ or however it is done, try
just adding 4 to the GFA 4-byte var. Like A%=v:B%, A%=a%+4. I've done that
in GFA and it works.

The ones dimmed to maxint look like 2-byte vars, but in Delphi all are
4-byte by default, so don't know what maxint evaluates to. You are probably
safe to use 2-byte vars for those.

I'm guessing, but that "case" structure looks like defining dimensions
depending on compiler variables or runtime variable (levelnum) in the code,
for some unknown reason that wouldn't make any difference in GFA anyway. So
a 16 element array of 4-byte integers should work if "node" is a byte
integer type. You could try reals, etc. I have no idea what the "node" type is.

-----
Steve Thornton

>> >/*       case levelNum of
>> >/*         1: (fwd1: array [1..1] of node;);
>> >/*         2: (fwd2: array [1..2] of node;);
>> >/*         3: (fwd3: array [1..3] of node;);
>> >/*         4: (fwd4: array [1..4] of node;);
>> >/*         5: (fwd5: array [1..5] of node;);
>> >/*         6: (fwd6: array [1..6] of node;);
>> >/*         7: (fwd7: array [1..7] of node;);
>> >/*         8: (fwd8: array [1..8] of node;);
>> >/*         9: (fwd9: array [1..9] of node;);
>> >/*        10: (fwd10: array [1..10] of node;);
>> >/*        11: (fwd11: array [1..11] of node;);
>> >/*        12: (fwd12: array [1..12] of node;);
>> >/*        13: (fwd13: array [1..13] of node;);
>> >/*        14: (fwd14: array [1..14] of node;);
>> >/*        15: (fwd15: array [1..15] of node;);
>> >/*        16: (fwd: array [1..16] of node;)
>> >/*       end;
>> >

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Well, Dale probably is waiting for me to say OKAY
for my UNZIPPER before he lets anyone know about it.

I can't post it in GFAForum because it's 110726
bytes.  You're only allowed like 30-40k in here
for stuff, okay !

Dale, yes !  Please put this in with the other good
GFA programs.  Vector no, Unzipper yes.  :)

I wanna rewrite vector all over again and get it
right this time, but later.

If in fact Dale has been playing with it for the past
2 days which is why we haven't heard from him,
then you download your copy to obssess yourself with
here.  :)

What it does ?
Unzips any PKZIP file complete with picture cruncher !

http://www.geocities.com/dw817/gfabasic/unzipper.zip

Sincerely,
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Wicker strikes again!
UNZIPPER.ZIP is ready for download
What it does ?
Unzips any PKZIP file complete with picture cruncher !



Dale Bryant
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:


--- Dale Bryant <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com>
> wrote:
> Wicker strikes again!
> UNZIPPER.ZIP is ready for download
> What it does ?
> Unzips any PKZIP file complete with picture cruncher

Looks Good Dale !  Thanks !!

Okay, well this Forum has gotten like really dead so
I'll mention what I've been up to !  :)

As you know or should, there are a few ways to
GET a graphic block in GFA.  You can use a variable
pointer like  GET 0,0,15,15,BMP&  which will stuff not
the CONTENTS but the POINTER where this 16x16 graphic
block is into variable BMP& .

To my knowledge, there is =NO= way to use POKE or
whatever it takes to modify the contents BMP& points
to.  Someone =PLEASE= correct me if I'm wrong I wanna
be wrong because what I'm doing below is harder !

You can also get a graphic block like
GET 0,0,15,15,BMP$  which will stuff the CONTENTs of
our 16x16 graphic block into BMP$ .

What is the length of our string when we are done ?
It varies, herein lies the problem.

If you're doing 16 colors its really small.
256 colors is bigger.
16 bit colors is bigger still.
24 bit, (Yes Russell it does exist), on my Dad's
computer is a tad bigger.
32 bit, well, this is the biggest one of all.

My mission should I choose to accept it Commander is
to write a program to convert any of the:
+ 16 colors
+ 256 colors
+ 16 bit colors
+ 24 bit colors

Into the unfathomably <- (is this a word?) 32 bit
colors.

Why ?  Because if I can load and save STRING$ this
way:

1) I'll ensure that it won't get any bigger than this.
2) Using PRINT#1, or the like you can store a whole
   picture by printing =MULTIPLE= strings.
3) This is =REALLY= speedy stuff !  I can load and
   save this way in the blink of an eye !  :)

But, I now have some PUT files, 16color, 256color,
16bitcolor, 24bitcolor, and 32bitcolor and I need to
figure them out !

That's all from here !

Thanks again Dale for the update !
Yah I need my ego stroked daily but you know that and
I'll all ways try to write good stuff in here !
:)

Sincerely,
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List Member Anthony Watson <awatson@pacifier.com> wrote:
David,

> You can use a variable pointer like  GET 0,0,15,15,BMP&
> which will stuff not the CONTENTS but the POINTER where
> this 16x16 graphic block is into variable BMP& .
> To my knowledge, there is =NO= way to use POKE or
> whatever it takes to modify the contents BMP& points
> to.

To be honest, I did not realize GET would copy a screen section to
anything but a string. But, the value it returns is probably a "handle" to
the bitmap, and not the actual memory address. You could try:

  GET 0,0,15,15,BMP&
  address=GlobalLock(BMP&)
  ... Do whatever...
  ~GlobalUnlock(BMP&)

and see if that would allow you access to the actual bitmap memory. I
have not tried this, so I'm not sure if it would work or not. Remember
that the bitmap has header information, so you'll need to decode that
properly to determine the actual start of the bitmap data.

> You can also get a graphic block like
> GET 0,0,15,15,BMP$  which will stuff the CONTENTs of
> our 16x16 graphic block into BMP$ .
> What is the length of our string when we are done ?

length=LEN(BMP$)

> But, I now have some PUT files, 16color, 256color,
> 16bitcolor, 24bitcolor, and 32bitcolor and I need to
> figure them out !

I don't do a lot of graphics related work, but I tend to steer clear of
GFA's internal graphics commands, such as GET and PUT. Instead I try to
use raw Windows API commands whenever possible.

If you can get the screen segment into a Windows Bitmap, you might be able
to use GetBitmapBits and SetBitmapBits to gain access to the raw bitmap
data?

Sorry I can't be more detailed at the moment. It's a fairly in depth
process, and I'm running short on time... But, maybe it'll give you a
place to start looking?

Take care,

Anthony Watson
Mountain Software
support@mountain-software.com
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Hi Anthony,
How is Mountain Software doing?
God Bless,
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Aggh !  I don't believe it !  Someone shares the
same overwhelming obsession in graphics that I do !

Small world !  Hiya Anthony !  :)

> To be honest, I did not realize GET would copy a
> screen section to
> anything but a string. But, the value it returns is
> probably a "handle" to
> the bitmap, and not the actual memory address. You
> could try:
> 
>   GET 0,0,15,15,BMP&
>   address=GlobalLock(BMP&)
>   ... Do whatever...
>   ~GlobalUnlock(BMP&)

Ah ah !  You're using a command not listed in general
help..  Gimme a sec to play with it..

Plink !  GFA just crashed, shutting down..  Yah that's
what I got for POKEing my fingers where they don't
belong.  :)

Here's what I tried:
- - -
DEFINT A-Z
OPENW 1,_X\2-200,_Y\2-150,400,300,0
CIRCLE 50,50,50
GET 0,0,_X,_Y,BMP
Adr=GLOBALLOCK(BMP)

POKE Adr+200,0
' ^ Here's where it goes bad..  :/

POKE Adr+200,0
PUT 0,0,BMP
KEYGET Z
~GLOBALUNLOCK(BMP)

This program when run will crash GFA.  Yes all of
you out there who wanted to know how to crash your
system this oh-so-useful (NOT!) secret is revealed !
:)

What I was hoping for is to see the circle with some
kinna black pixel somewhere around the top of it.

This is how I found where pixels are stored in
GET STRING$.  But, this still may not be too useful
knowledge if anything I save with it is BIT16 and must
be manually converted to 16Color, 256Color,
24BitColor, or the unfathomably <- there's that word
again !  32BitColor .

You mentioned you are using Windows API Commands ?
Are these the "~" commands, and, if so, how would
you save off an entire screen of graphics where it
can be displayed later under any graphic format ?

If I don't know what Windows API commands are,
someone please let me know (that I don't!) :)

> 
> and see if that would allow you access to the actual
> bitmap memory. I
> have not tried this, so I'm not sure if it would
> work or not. Remember
> that the bitmap has header information, so you'll
> need to decode that
> properly to determine the actual start of the bitmap
> data.
> length=LEN(BMP$)

> I don't do a lot of graphics related work, but I
> tend to steer clear of
> GFA's internal graphics commands, such as GET and
> PUT. Instead I try to
> use raw Windows API commands whenever possible.

Could you please post an example of loading/saving
off an entire screen such as this ?

OPENW 1,0,0,_X,_Y
CIRCLE 50,50,50
{{ MAGIC STUFF TO SAVE SCREEN TO FILE ! }}
KEYGET Z
CLS
{{ MAGIC STUFF TO LOAD SCREEN FROM FILE ! }}
' Wow !  It really works !
KEYGET Z
CLOSEW 1
END

I imagine this could be of quite-a-bit use to
every body here.

> 
> If you can get the screen segment into a Windows
> Bitmap, you might be able
> to use GetBitmapBits and SetBitmapBits to gain
> access to the raw bitmap
> data?
> 
> Sorry I can't be more detailed at the moment. It's a
> fairly in depth
> process, and I'm running short on time... But, maybe
> it'll give you a
> place to start looking?

Yes !  Please do !  This isn't a one-way street too,
I'll in all ways try to put out some useful tools and
graphics that make use of these new ideas !

Thanks !

Greets go out to Russell Hayward for Windowlock and
now PKWARE for PKUNZJR.  (I'll probably have to write
a 100 page thesis of credits when I finish Scenario
finally !)  :)

Sincerely,
David W.
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
ALL FILES ARE FREE DOWNLOADS
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All Files For Down Load Are  Copyrite By Their Respective Authors
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GFA16 File DownLoad Area
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GFAWHELP.ZIP
Version 4:0009 GFAWHELP (1,051kb) For GFA BASIC For Windows.FreeWare.
Current Versions Maintained on GFA-BASICS Web Page By Dale Bryant.
Additions 10/03/99 Compiled for Win3.X. GFAWHELP.INI added
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TOOLTIP.ZIP (10kb) Great learning tool by the very knowledgeable Ophir
Daniels. Contact Ophir Daniels Confused By Call Backs ? Don't Miss This!...
********************
GFADLL4.ZIP (121kb) Great GFA Library.Source And Test Module Included.Easy
To Use In Your Own Programs. Updated (01/11/98) By Bev Brown. Don't Miss
This One!
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GFADLL5.ZIP (218kb) It's Here!! Handles long filenames and long folder names
.Great GFA Library.Source And Test Module Included.Easy To Use In Your Own
Programs. (01/22/2000) By Bev Brown. Don't Miss This One!
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CLONE.ZIP (196kb) Great Disk Utility. Many, Many Options . DLL Included! By
Bev Brown. Don't Miss This One!
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DEMORES.ZIP (56kb) Demo For Loading Menu, Bitmap, Wave, Icon, String table,
and Cursor From A .RES file. ..RES & .DLL Included In ZIP. Demo Only. By
Dale Bryant.  .
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GFAEXT2E.ZIP (61kb) GFA Editor Extensions From Gfa.English Version..This is
new version 2.1. Supports Long File Names And Many New Options.German
Version available. Contact GFA
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BCOPY41.ZIP (247kb) File Utility For Copying, Moving, Deleting, Renaming
Files: Help File Included.Updated 6/17/98 with Menu, Tool bar, Wave in .RES
file. Also includes a new HTML help file.....   Modified 12/30/98
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WFED.ZIP (380kb) WIndows File Editor by Bev Brown. The GFW Source Code Is
Included In Zip.See CLONE For Contact Info.. Modified 07/09/98
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SYSINFO.ZIP (317kb) System Information by Bev Browm: More Than You Ever
Wanted To Know..Bev has added some routines.  Modified 10/02/98
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BBARMENU.ZIP (12kb) Demo Program Showing How To Use CONTROL To Create
Buttons For A Menu..This is a demo only.....
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SEARCHER.ZIP (52kb) A Windows .HLP File Viewing Utility: Source Code
Included In All ZIP Files.. Just a demo but some might find it useful.
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BUBBLHLP.ZIP (33kb) A Demo Showing How To Make Bubble Help For Your Gfa
Windows Programs. Source Code Is Included. By Roland Walter
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STRIPPER.ZIP (62kb) Strips Blank Lines From ASCII Files Including GFA .LST,
QBasic .BAS, Pascal .PAS And .DOC Files
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TOTD.ZIP (46kb) Tip Of The Day For Your GFW Programs. GFW Code Included. By
Peter Klasen  Contact Pete Klasen
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REMOVER.ZIP (77kb) Strips REM Lines From ASCII Files Including GFA .LST
Files. Source & .EXE Included. by Dale Bryant
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WEBFIND.ZIP (347kb) Store Thousands Of Web & Email Addresses. Needs GFADLL4
To Run Correctly. (See Above) Source & .EXE Included.Updated Copy
(01/11/98). by Bev Brown
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LASTFILE.ZIP (5kb)Demo of storing the last four files selected in menu
slots. Uses an .INI file. by Bev Brown and Dale Bryant
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PVIEWER.ZIP (5kb)Loads and displays .BMP, JPG, GIF and more. You will love
this one sent to me by Tom Record. The NVIEW16.DLL is included don't miss
this one!
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CALLHTML.ZIP (183kb) Demo On Calling The New Microsoft HTML Help Files from
GFA Basic. . Includes Microsoft Display Engine ..  Minor Modifications
09/28/98>
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CURMANIA..ZIP (60kb) Demo On Loading and Displaying Cursors From A .RES
File. Multiple Cursors, Menu, Bitmap, Wave,String table all in RES File. RES
and EXE Included. ..(06/26/98) 06/27/98
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SYSINF32.ZIP (530kb) You have seen some of this in commercial programs. This
covers it all, from memory to DLL s'. By Bev Brown. (see CLONE for Contact
Info). 07/24/98
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FILES.ZIP (1.7kb) WIN API File operations. _lopen, _lclose, ect. Great
learning tool from Christoph Muller. Contact Chris
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TOLMEN22.ZIP (37kb) Here is a new version of the GFA Basic ToolMenu (ver
2.2) for Win95/NT. If You don't know what it does: 1.( Copy the program
(GFA.EXE) into the home directory of the GFA Editor.
2.) Start GFA.EXE Now GFA.EXE will start the normal GFA Editor and add a new
"Tools" menu entry to the main menu. This Menu You can fill by yourself with
tool programs, help files and so on.Initially the menu contains the entry
"Configuration" only. Click at this and a Dialog will open where you can
tell which programs/files you like to add to the Tool menu. It is possible
to change the order of the entries at a later time: You simply can drag the
desired entries by mouse in the list box to the desired new position. O.K.,
Version 2.2 is a bug fix only. I hope that the GFA Extension Tool now will
run together with the ToolMenu.The ToolMenu is Freeware. ..Roland Walter
( This is one you don't want to miss) Contact Roland (07/22/98)
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TEXTSRCH.ZIP (47kb) I transposed this great utility by Roland Walter from
Deutsch to English. This is a great utility! You know that you have seen the
command LB_GETCURSEL but forgot exactly how to use it. This utility will
search all .LST files in a chosen directory and its sub directories for the
command that you wish to search for. This one should convince you that your
programs are not only 'Saved' to disk but that a .LST version is 'Written'
out as well. Thanks Roland for sharing it and please be kind about the
translation. Contact Roland Posted (08/01/98)08/31/98
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TEXTSUCH.ZIP (29kb) by Roland Walter. Deutsch version. See TEXTSRCH above
for explanation. Contact Roland Posted (08/31/98)
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WAVEUTIL.ZIP (11kb) A wave file utility by Harald Bonsel. Translated from
Deutsch. Contact Harald Posted (08/02/98)
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WAVETEST.ZIP (62kb) A nice .WAV file Demo . .RES & .DLL included in the ZIP
file. The .WAV sounds are compiled into the .EXE file by Roland Walter.
Translated from Deutsch. Roland has programmed some great utilities and is
the author of TOOLMENU for the GFA BASIC Editor. Download TOLMEN22.ZIP for
version 2.2 of TOOLMENU. Contact Roland Posted (08/03/98)
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SHUTDOWN.ZIP (22kb) When programming DLLs' do you have problems freeing them
from memory? ShutDown by Roland Walter is just the utility you need. When
executed ShutDown shows a list of all active modules. Select the one you are
having problems with and select Shut Down. Now you can go on with your
programming.. Contact Roland WalterPosted (08/08/98)
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ENCODER.ZIP (36kb) Encode is a demo of encoding and decoding information.The
included DLL is by Stefan Wolf and the GFA BASIC code is by Roland Walter.
Very interesting demo. Contact Roland Walter Posted (08/09/98)
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RECINDX.ZIP (284kb) Recipe Indexing program by Bev Brown.. Let us prepare
the table for a sumptuous repast! This stores lots of recipe information
Contact Bev Brown Posted (08/23/98)08/27/98
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LBB.ZIP (270kb) Address and Phone data base. Holds many records. This one
will even dial the phone number for you if you are that lazy(G) . Another
from the one-a-day Bev Brown. Contact Bev Brown  New .PHN file Modification
08/28/98
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EMAILIT.ZIP (758bytes) Code for sending EMAIL from within a GFA program. No
Runtime DLL needed. Uses SHELL.DLL ONLY! Also In GFAWHELP. From Sven Thomas.
Administrator of GFA.NET Contact Sven Thomas Posted (08/28/98)
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WEBIT.ZIP (748bytes) Code for loading and displaying a Web page from within
a GFA program. No Runtime DLL needed. Uses SHELL.DLL ONLY! Also In GFAWHELP.
>From Sven Thomas. Administrator of GFA.NET Contact Sven Thomas Posted
(08/28/98)
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UUCODE.ZIP (6870bytes) UUENCODE and UUDECODE direct from GFA. Try This One!
Recieved from Sven Thomas. Administrator of GFA.NET Contact Sven Thomas
Posted (08/30/98)
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MAG_INDX.ZIP (303kb) Magazine Data Filing program. Holds 10,000 records with
lots of information. Also would be great for Books. Another from the
one-a-day Bev Brown. Source code is always included on all files from this
site. Contact Bev Brown  (09/03/98)
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LONGDIR.ZIP (668bytes) Example code to create a Folder (DIR) with a Long
Name. (i.e. Test directory) using INTR $21. By Roland Walter Contact Roland
Walter Posted (09/01/98)
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DEANSLIB.ZIP (46kb) This is a library of functions and procedures for
manipulating editboxes, listboxes, comboboxes and disk files more easily.
They work, in essence, like extra commands for GFA. Additional functions
deal with string handling and special-purpose windows such as password
dialogs. This code is in the Public Domain and is freeware. Instructions are
in Write .WRI and Word .DOC files. Great DLL library from Dean Hodgson with
demo program and document files included. Contact Dean Hodgson Posted
(09/05/98)
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TSKBICON.ZIP (5,620b) Demo that shows how to put a icon on the Windows Task
Bar. Sent by Patrik Battig from Thailand. Patrik is very knowledgeable in
the C language and helped me convert some of the C API calls to GFA. Contact
Patrik Battig Posted (09/06/98)
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META.ZIP (2kb) Includes a Demo meta programs that shows how to handle meta
files Sent by Brent Deck. You can Contact Brent Deck Posted (09/06/98)
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TMMT119.ZIP (92kb) TMMT - The Multimedia-Tool 1.19 FREEWARE 1996/7 - a
very-easy-to-use multimedia-player for avi, mid and wav - (small!) database
engine - scans drives _very quick_ recursively for multimedia-files. Uses no
libraries .This one does it all. Display Bitmaps, Gifs, .PCX. and More!.
Works great! You can Contact Joe Hurst Posted (09/07/98)
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PRIVED12.ZIP (16kb) PRIVATE EDITOR 1.2 English version Sept 1998. Crypting
text editor by Sven Kumlin. Torslanda, Sweden. Encryption with the
Triple-DES algorithm (Des3.DLL) by Stefan Wolf,' Gartenstr 22, D-61449
Steinbach/Ts, Germany. The FUNCTIONs at the end' of this listing are
originally written by Roland Walter, Schnhauser ' Allee 64, D-10437 Berlin.
You can Contact Sven Kumlin Posted (09/07/98)
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CARD7SS.ZIP (1,162kb) This program is designed to run reasonably neatly on
various kinds of PC's regardless of the colors, screen sizes and CPU speeds
as long as the machine is operated on Windows 3.10 or later, including
compatible mode of other OS's. I am releasing the whole program code and
related resources for those who are ambitious and dare to have a big byte
that could be more than you can chew. I will gladly give explanations when
necessary. The whole program is written in a way that could be understood by
programmers in conventional 8 bit BASIC practices. (FanTan Card Game) (If
you don't download this just to study the source you will be missing a great
learning tool and a fun program.) Programmed by You-Long (Takashi Toyoda)
Includes both English and Japanesse Winhelp files. You can Contact Contact
Takashi Toyoda Posted (09/14/98)
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GRIDDEMO.ZIP (92kb) A great demo by Patrik Bullman. This one has some great
GFAW code in it. Be sure and check it out! You can Contact Patrik Bullman
Posted (09/15/98)
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CTRLTOOL.ZIP (1,234kb) Multiple programs and demos by Eberhard Funck from
Hildesheim, Germany. Includes .DLL files with source, demos with source and
a whole lot more. There are some very nice programs in this archive. If you
have questions about any of the routines. You can Contact Eberhard Funck
Posted (09/17/98)
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CTRLHELP.ZIP (169kb) This is an English Winhelp version of the German .PDF
documentation contained in the CTRLTOOL program by Eberhard Funck. I had to
translate the .PDF to an .RTF and then compile it as a Winhelp 3.x .HLP
file. I used a computer language translator by SYSTRAN. No translator is
perfect but I think you will find it understandable. Dale Bryant......( You
only need this if you download CTRLTOOL.ZIP and you do not read German.)
Posted (09/17/98)
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FONTSHO2.ZIP (2,059b) FONTSHO2 will display all the fonts on your computer
and then give you the option of also printing them .. Contributed by John
Kanold Thanks John. Very Nice. Contact John Kanold (10/15/98)
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FORMTEXT.ZIP (38kb)FORMTEXT presents a way for you to include short help
files within your application. FORMTEXT uses commands similiar to HTML but
not HTML. FORMTEXT reads files with the extension of .RTM (Rolands Markup
Language or Read The Manual) The .RTM files are created easily in a text
editor such as Notepad. Contact..Roland Walter (10/18/98)
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WAC.ZIP (295kb)WAC - Windows Arc Converter. It includes a separate
compressed file of the files used by the program to do the actual
compression. I even threw in some extra files I have found useful to split
up files across disks. File paths are set in WAC.INI. A really good
compression file converter by Bev Brown. Also uses COMPRESS.ZIP (Below)
Contact..Bev Brown (10/19/98)
COMPRESS.ZIP (961kb)COMPRESS is used by the Windows Arc Converter. COMPRESS
contains all the compression programs known to man and of course to Bev
Brown. WAC.INI sets the path for The Windows Arc Converter You can load
WAC.INI into a text editor and set the drive and path that you desire.
Contact..Bev Brown (10/19/98)
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METAMIN3.ZIP (10362b)METAMIN3 by Brent Deck is a very good example on
handling meta files. Lots to learn from this one Contact..Brent Deck
(10/19/98)
DATEINP.ZIP (4506b)DATEINP by Sven Kumlin is an interesting date input
routine. Easy to add code into a program. Contact..Sven Kumlin (10/19/98)
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HANGUP.ZIP (2395b)HANGUP by Brent Deck. This code will hang up your modem on
COM ports 1 through 4. Contact..Brent Beck (11/01/98)
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RITEADLL.ZIP (2464b)RITEADLL by Bev Brown. Writing Your first Dll Library or
Is that all there is to it?. Contact..Bev Brown (12/23/98)
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CALLPDF.ZIP (97kb) CALLPDF by Dale Bryant Demo for calling an ADOBE ACROBAT
.PDF file from GFA. Please read included text file. See Help files for more
information. Contact..Dale Bryant (12/28/98)
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ABOUTDEM.ZIP (4459b) Demo on changing bitmaps in a dialog box while it is
still displayed. Tom Record made this final version. Very nice..
Contact..Tom Record (12/28/98)
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MYOWNSUB.ZIP (237kb) You probably don't want to miss this one. Ulrich Becker
has written a .DLL that is really nice. The .ZIP contains the GFA-W code for
calling all the .dll supported routines.. Two help files, one in Duetsch and
one in English Very nice..I need Mr Beckers email address! Contact..
(01/08/99)
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VTOOLSD.ZIP (478kb) There is so much offered in this zip file I cannot even
begin to describe it all. Let me say, if you want to learn some great GFA-W
code do not miss this one. Commands and Help file in Deutsch . By Georg
Veichtlbauer Includes Library Files and a SETUP program. Note: VTOOLS is the
main program module. Run VTOOLS. which will call the other .EXE modules. Do
the same for the English Version Below. Contact..Georg (01/13/99) 03/14/99
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VTOOLSE.ZIP (469kb) The same as VTOOLSD.ZIP but commands and help file
translated to English.. Georg did a lot of work to present an English copy.
Includes Library Files. Also includes Set Up program. By Georg Veichtlbauer
Contact..Georg (02/20/99) 03/14/99
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CTRL.ZIP (313kb) Custom Controls by John Findlay. Includes source code, .RES
file, .DLL and a .DOC file. There is a lot to be learned from this one. A
great learning tool. Contact..John Findlay (01/27/99) 05/15/99
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DISKAPI.ZIP (6kb) Dean Hodgson has written some amazing disk file
routines... These functions use Windows API calls for disk file I/O. The
functions are especially designed for use in a network environment where
files are shared by many users. Files are essentially random access with
fixed-length records. A great learning tool. Document WRI file included.
Contact..Dean Hodgson (01/27/99)
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METAPLBL.ZIP (25kb) Brent Deck shows us how to handle placeable meta files.
This program creates a simple GFA metafile on disk. It then reloads the
simple metafile from disk and resaves it as a placeable metafile. Then it
allows the user to use the file selector to load and view any simple or
placeable metafile, including files greater than 64K in length. Unless a
metafile has the placeable header, it cannot be used by most other programs.
Note that ESCAPEMENT determines the angle of text in GFA, but ORIENTATION
determines the angle in some other programs which load the placeable file.
(Win 3.1) In order to have angled text in both GFA and other programs, both
ESCAPEMENT and ORIENTATION are set here. This does not conform to WIN API
docs. . A great learning tool. s Contact..-Brent Deck (01/27/99)
**************************
BIGFILE.ZIP (2,153b) Roland Walter shows us how to use the KERNEL.DLL to
copy huge files. Just since Windows 3.1 there are some API functions for
easy handling files ' bigger then 64KB, 'You simply have to use them. This
example program copys a file which can be 'so big if You have enough memory.
'If You want to make changes in a part of the memory block it is important
not to forget 'we have to work with Segment+Offset addresses. The GFA Basic
functions _HUGE can help 'to handle this problem relatively simple. [ed]
This routine is extremely fast. Contact..-Roland Walter (01/27/99)
**************************
HUGE.ZIP (36,327b) Brent Deck and John Findlay present some routines useing
_HUGE. There is a wealth of knowledge to be aquired here. Study!. Study!,
Study! .Test this Saturday. (01/27/99)
GIFLOAD.ZIP (25Kb) John Findlay has sent a fantastic program on loading .GIF
files with GFA BASIC. No .DLL used, just GFW code. Don't forget to read the
.WRI file that is included. This is what makes it all so great! UPDATE!!!
Now loads Interlaced Gifs. Thanks John! (02/28/99) 03/16/99
**************************
BOOTLOG.ZIP (3Kb)This little tool displays modules which failed to load
during the start of Windows. If you want to make changes or improvements,
please notify me! (c) 1999 Georg Veichtlbauer. See Boigraphies for email
address. (03/09/99)
**************************
IMGEDIT.ZIP (578Kb) WOW! Image Edit by Eberhard Funck. I am not sure I
beleive this. An image scanner written in GFA. Yes, it works! Tried it on my
HP Scanjet 5100C and I have the scanned image to prove it. Eberhard even
shares the source code. Be sure and read the text file in the archive. Don't
miss it!!! Updated and addittions(05/24/99) (03/22/99)
**************************
EXPORTS2.ZIP (17Kb) An enhanced version of EXPORT by Roland Walter.. Tom
Record added some routines and it is nice! (03/22/99)
**************************
RICHEDIT.ZIP (232Kb) An .RTF file display utility by Eberhard Funck. Needs
RICHED.DLL which is available below as RICHDLL.ZIP. (04/12/99)
**************************
RTFHELP.ZIP (109Kb) A program help utility utilizing Rich Text Format (.RTF)
files by John Findlay. This one really fasinates me. Needs RICHEDIT.DLL
which is available below as RICHDLL.ZIP. (04/12/99)
**************************
RICHDLL.ZIP (129Kb) The RICHEDIT.DLL by Microsoft. Used for displaying Rich
Text Format (RTF) files using GFA BASIC. This DLL is used by RICHEDIT and
also by RTFHELP. RICHEDIT is by Eberhard Funck and RTFHELP is by John
Findlay. Don't miss them!! (04/12/99)
**************************
WILDCARD.ZIP (39Kb)Wild card searching by Joe Hurst. Find all occurrences of
your search phrase. Very Nice (04/24/99)
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WRAPTXT6.ZIP (6,139Kb)A text wrapping demo by Brent Deck. Stand back and
watch her roll! Very Nice (05/02/99)
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RTMEDIT.ZIP (74Kb)An Editor by Tom Record for creating .RTM files for Roland
Walters' FORMTEXT application. Give it a try. I like it! (05/01/99)
***************************
JPE.ZIP (1,247Kb)Joeys' Personal File Editor. Programmed by Joe Hurst. Joe
also programmed the BBOX series. This program just does too much for me to
describe. Download and see for yourself NOTE:If the menu appears in german,
just do the following : select "Einstellungen\Englisch aktivieren" from the
german menu - from now on, everything _should_ be in English... (05/11/99)
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PROCVIEW.ZIP (9,029b)Process Viewer, by Michael Weigand, shows all processes
that are active on your computer when it is executed.This may be useful when
you're browsing the web and you want to get rid of those annoying browser
windows that pop up from time to time with advertising, sponsor messages and
so on... Unwanted windows can be stored in a list file. Just double click
with the right mouse button on the name of the window in the small window
and the name of the window will be added to the file. The file AutClose.LST
can be edited with Notepad, but make sure that it ends with carriage
return/new line. Keep in mind that with this version hidden files stay in
the memory until the application (Internet Explorer or Netscape Navigator)
gets closed! Please send me an e-mail, if you find a way to close the
windows rather than just hiding them: michael-weigand@foni.net Very nice!!.
(05/13/99)09/28/99
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COMCOLOR.ZIP (2,384b)COMBOBOX color selection. Select a diplayed color and
it returns the RGB color values. By Russell Hayward. (05/13/99)
******************************
OSUBSRCE.ZIP (151kb)This is the source code for the MYOWNSUB.DLL by Ulrich
Becker. If you make any changes will you please send to me so that I can
make them avavilable to all. (05/14/99)
******************************
BAPIDLL.ZIP (102kb)This .DLL is somewhat like the OWNSUB.DLL. Many calling
routines are included in the ZIP file. Includes Windows help file in
Deutsche. (05/14/99)
******************************
MIDI.ZIP (49kb)From John Findlay. Uses MIDIGFA.DLL. John even Included the
Midigfa.dll source code. The .ZIP contains Midigfa.dll, Midigfa.gfw,
Playsong.exe and playsong.gfw. (05/14/99)
******************************
ALBUM.ZIP (379kb)From Eberhard Funck. Collect your .BMP and JPG files into
albums. Has slideshow capabilities for both .BMP and JPG. Slideshow can be
controlled by the mouse or you can set the seconds for displaying next
picture. All source and .dll files included. This is a commerical quality
program! (05/25/99)
*******************************
NEWDLG32.ZIP (17kb)From John FIndlay. Win32 dialogs are displayed with this
code by using the Com32gfa.Lib which should be included with this listing.
The library is written in 32 bit C code and it's not included. If you want
it I'll send the C code and header. This listing will not run on Win3.x
(06/01/99)
*******************************
DLGANI.ZIP (196kb)From Eberhard Funck. Eberhard has done it again. Written
in GFA BASIC, DLGANI loads and displays animated cursors. A really fun
program and one you don't want to miss. .EXE and GFA source code are
included in the .zip file. Also includes some animated cursors. Put all
files in same directory. (07/24/99)
*******************************
NOTES.ZIP (21kb)NOTES is a small handy program for posting some notes to
yourself. Notes uses an .INI file to store your notes. From Russell Hayward.
(07/24/99)
*******************************
FLATBTN.ZIP (11kb)FLATBTN (Flat Buttons) is code to make flat clickable
buttons for your appliciation. Russell wrote the code so you can merge it
into your own application. From Russell Hayward. (08/07/99)
*******************************
MIME.ZIP (2,367b)MIME is a demo uf a MIME encoding/decoding function. This
demo by Joe Hurst. (08/07/99)
*******************************
MEGASCRL.ZIP (25,715b)MEGASCROLL is a scrolling demo for large text files. A
lot to learn here. By Eberhard Funck. (08/12/99)
*******************************
DRAGBMPL.ZIP (40,599b)DRAGBMP, by John Findlay, is a very nice demo on how
to drag a bitmap with the mouse (08/19/99)
*******************************
VID_VIEW.ZIP (9,787b)VID_VIEW, by Ulli Stemmeler, is a very nice demo on how
to play .avi, .mov and mpg files. Vid_VIEW Creates an .INI file that is
pertinent to YOUR hard disk only! Do not distribute your .INI file with
Source. Source Code is included! (09/13/99)
*******************************
CALCULTR.ZIP (65kb)CALCULTR, by Markus Kuntner, is a very nice calculator
demo. Has many features. Source Code is included! (09/09/99)
******************************
MIDMETER.ZIP (65kb)MIdi demo with the best looking meters you have ever
seen. by von Engelbert van Loock.Has many features. Source Code is included!
(09/09/99)
******************************
DISKTOOL.ZIP (19kb)By Wilhelm Bueckmann A progmanning tool for examimg a
floopy disk. Source Code is included! (09/11/99)
*****************************
PROGSTAT.ZIP (134kb)By Tom Record. Some good code in thi one. Good study
routines. (10/09/99)   *****************************
VIEWER.ZIP (142,211b)By Dale Bryant. Viewer will display
.GFW,.LST,.BAK,.RTF,.WRI,.TXT,.ICO,.BMP files(10/09/99) One of my first
programs.
*****************************
SUZIEQ.ZIP (23,219b)By Tom Record. Demo of an animated bitmap file. ADULT!
(10/10/99)
RICHTEST.ZIP (13,749b)By Roland Walter. Demo of Richtext editor. (10/29/99)
Roland says it will updated. Needs RICHEDIT.DLL . Available here as a
download. (see above)
*****************************
DIMGEN.ZIP (6kb)By Afonso Martins. Build 0.03. Converting a GFW .lst file to
a GB32 file. (12/12/99) An In-Process application. All invited to
participate.
*****************************
DLLCODE.ZIP (134kb)By Bev Brown. (01/20/99) A collection of routines.
Includes routines from Bevs' GFADLL4.DLL. 01/12/99 Added two dll libraries
*****************************
CRYSWAVE.ZIP (66kb)By Dave Wicker. (01/15/2000) A very nice Crystal Wave
demo by a new GFA progammer Contact Dave
*****************************
KSCOPE.ZIP (10kb)By Dave Wicker. (01/20/2000) WOW! What a beautiful program.
Fantastic colors.Hundreds of colors. Just run it and enjoy! Kaleidoscope
demo by a new GFA progammer. Wicker Strikes again! Contact Dave
*****************************
NEWDLG32.ZIP (17kb)From John FIndlay. Win32 dialogs are displayed with this
code by using the Com32gfa.Lib which should be included with this listing.
The library is written in 32 bit C code and it's not included. If you want
it I'll send the C code and header. This listing will not run on Win3.x
(06/01/99)
****************************
LAZERZAP.ZIP (10kb)By Dave Wicker. (01/25/2000) Shoot down those aliens.
Lazers on! Contact Dave
****************************
JUKEBOX.ZIP (45kb)By Dave Wicker. (01/25/2000) Put your money in today and
see which song Jukebox will play. This is a good one. Contact Dave
****************************
DRECTX16.ZIP (38kb)By Dave Wicker. (01/28/2000) DirectX demo by Russell
Hayward. .DLL by John FIndlay. This is a good one.
*****************************
SWIRL3.ZIP (6kb)By Dave Wicker. (02/03/2000) Danger! Mesmerizing. Candy for
the eyes. Contact Dave
*****************************
CODEC.ZIP (6kb)By Roland Walter/Tom Record. (02/03/2000) 'Compress bitmaps
using Video for Windows '(C) Roland Walter, (October 1999)'One function is
doing the complete compression. The rest of the code is an example of using
this function only (compressing a bitmap file from disk to disk). Contact
Roland
******************************
NEWBMP.ZIP (3kb)Here is a working codec-compressed display. This will
actually display almost *any* *.bmp... odd colordepth is blocked for some
reason. The codecs won't display 24, 32, 64, or 128 color images. 1-bit is
OK under some circumstances, otherwise, the images must be semi-standard. 16
colors, 256 colors, 16-bit & 24-bit. There is an indication that 32-bit
*may* display &/or compress but I don't have any & can't make any. 32-bit is
a feature of Win98. *This* display can be associated with *.bmp & when
compiled and will display the images by double-clicking on them. This
particular version doesn't allow selection beyond the first one... you must
run it again for each image. Sorry, I'm lazy & just haven't added that
feature. I use a copy of this one simply to check images for size & whether
or not they have been compressed.
**************************************
HISPEAK.ZIP (2kb)By Roland Walter. (02/07/2000) In attachement You will find
an example listing which shows how to use the PC's internal speaker by
direct hardware access. The listing is also a good example how to use the
high resolution programmable interval timer which has a minimum resolution
of 1.19MHz = 83,8 Nanoseconds (!!!).
**********************************
SHOWFONT.ZIP (7kb)By Dave Wicker. (02/07/2000) Here is VectorText, a small
portion of the vector library I am working on. Contact Dave
**********************************
MARKMIDI.ZIP (253kb)By Mark Feaver. (02/08/2000) Mark Feaver is the midi
guru of GFA BASIC. Download this and see how midi should be played. Contact
Mark
**********************************
ORGANIZE.ZIP (318kb)By Peter Sejfried. (02/09/2000)Peter Says Get Organized!
Very nicely done and you need it! Be sure and watch for other programs by
Peter..
**********************************
SCREENER.ZIP (119kb)By Peter Sejfried. (02/12/2000)Peter does it again. Want
to change that logon/logoff screens. Screener will do it for you. Some
screens included. Many more available. Send email to adbryant@msn.com and I
will send them to you.
**********************************
CATHEDRL.ZIP (2kb)By David Wicker. (02/12/2000)Cathredal is a nice graphic
program. David has recently discovered GFA BASIC and is testing its' graphic
abilities.
BIT8TO7.ZIP (38kb)By David Wicker. (02/13/2000) This is one amazing program.
Do yourself a favor and download it. I think you will be amazed and pleased.
If you use the source code please give David credit in your program.
**********************************
HEARTS.ZIP (2kb)By David Wicker. (02/17/2000) ALWAYS IN MY HEART, HEART,
HEART!
**********************************
BUBBLES.ZIP (2kb)By David Wicker. (02/20/2000) I'm forever blowing bubbles,
pretty bubbles in the air. Nicely done.
********************************
SPRXAMPL.ZIP (7kb)By David Wicker. (02/17/2000) Very good Sprite example by
David. Hit space bar when activated.
********************************
MINIJPG.ZIP (98kb)By Roland Walter / Tom Record (02/17/2000) Hey! Interested
in your *.exe containing *.jpg images & a means of reading them... w/o
*.dlls? Or... would you like a tiny *.jpg *.dll? Courtesy of Roland Walter.
Tom Record - Included is a means of reading a *.jpg into an *.rc file, which
has to be compiled into a *.res file by a resource compiler. *This* one is
from *me* to you. I'm having to debug a multi-*.jpg version, but it will be
forthcoming soon. In the meantime, generate an *.rc for each image, then
append one to another with 2 empty lines between & correct the image IDs for
the 2nd on to the last.
*********************************
RCGEN07.ZIP (2kb)By Tom Record (02/20/2000) Tom gives us an .RC generator
that can be compiled in a .RES file with a resource compiler. Just select
what you want in the .RC. Bmp, Jpg, Gif. Works very well.
*********************************
UNZIPPER.ZIP (53kb)By David Wicker. (02/24/2000) What it does ? Unzips any
PKZIP file complete with picture cruncher !
**********************************
GFA DOS File DownLoad Area
**********************************
GFADOS1.ZIP (34kb) Twenty Six Useful GFA-DOS Routines In .LST Format. By Bev
Brown. See CLONE.ZIP For Contact Information
***********************************
EDITOR40.ZIP (108kb) GFA_DOS Text Editor With Lots Of Utilities Included In
The .ZIP Written By Bev Brown. See CLONE.ZIP For Contact Information
***********************************
DOSUTILS.ZIP (349kb) GFA-DOS Utilities Written By Bev Brown. See CLONE.ZIP
For Contact Information. Some Good Stuff Here
***********************************
STED.ZIP (107kb) GFA-DOS Simple Text Editor Written By Bev Brown. See
CLONE.ZIP For Contact Information.
***********************************
PHONE.ZIP (134kb) GFA-DOS Phone Number Data Base Program With Menu Messages
By Dale Bryant. See GFAWHELP.ZIP For Contact Information.
***********************************
RCPIDX33.ZIP  (90kb) Recipe Data Base Program By Bev Brown. You Are What You
Eat!
***********************************
MINISCAN.ZIP (106kb) Miniscan was originally written for the Atari 8-bit,
then the ST as disk/file/memory editors. This DOS version contains the
memory section the Window's version does not. Scanner, which includes things
such as a formatter, many disk utilities & an editor instead of a viewer,
will come later. Miniscan has only been tested with DOS 5 & 6. *Another
great utility by Bev Brown (07/23/98)
**********************************
SCANNER.ZIP (2040kb) SCANNER (DOS)'s main reason for being is that it is a
multi-purpose EDITOR; it consists of 28 executable programs (see below); it
was written this way so that there would be as much free memory as possible
when running any one section (the dummies that decided there should only be
640K of working memory should be strung up); anyways, the Windows version
won't have this problem. Sorry! this was written before Win95 & 32-bit FATs;
while it seems to work out of 95 alright, it does not recognize drives with
32-bit FATs. Editors - Memory - File - Disk Utilities - System - File -
Disk - Sector - Convert..It will even zip stuff if PKZIP/UNZIP/ZIP2EXE are
available. .. Another great utility by Bev Brown (07/31/98)
***********************************
COLPRINT.ZIP (81kb) Here's one for DOS called Column Printer; it allows you
to control the printing of any ASCII-file (txt., lst etc -- in other words a
GFA-listing) allowing up to 4 columns, 160 characters to a line & either 66
or 88 lines per page. It is a DOS program but can be run from Windows (PIF
file included). I'm about to attempt a Windows version but it will have to
be setup completely different because the DOS version uses LPRINT which is
not recognized by Windows. .. Another great utility by Bev Brown (09/23/98)
************************************
DSKIMAGE.ZIP (47kb) GFA-DOS Disk Image Utilitiy Written By Bev Brown. See
CLONE.ZIP For Contact Information. Some Good Stuff Here
************************************
://gfawhelp.gfa.net
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:


--- Dale Bryant <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com>
> wrote:
> Hi Anthony,
> How is Mountain Software doing?
> God Bless,
> Dale
> 

Checked out Mountain Software homepage, nice !  :)
Well, I'm curious cause I don't know.
Has anyone registered Tuzzle where you received any
income for your hard work at it and someone was
granted the registration code # ?

I'm asking cause I don't know where the world is
today on Shareware.  I can write some very effective
software for Shareware authors (which I would include
and share FREE to anyone in this GFAForum always,
but I want to know if Shareware actually works.

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
At 02:52 PM 24/02/00 -0800, you wrote:
>List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>If you're doing 16 colors its really small.
>256 colors is bigger.
>16 bit colors is bigger still.
>
+++ On *some* systems, you may fine 15-bit!
>
>24 bit, (Yes Russell it does exist), on my Dad's
>computer is a tad bigger.
>
+++ The first QWindows & VB got off 16-colors of DOS to 256 colors!.
Win30/Win31 got off 256 colors (8-bit) to 15/16-bit color (HICOLOR)
& played w/ 24-bit color!  Win95 really opend up 24-bit FULLCOLOR!
>
>32 bit, well, this is the biggest one of all.
>
+++ Win98 went into 32-bit color whole hog!.
>
>My mission should I choose to accept it Commander is
>to write a program to convert any of the:
>+ 16 colors
>+ 256 colors
>+ 16 bit colors
>+ 24 bit colors
>
>Into the unfathomably <- (is this a word?) 32 bit
>colors.
>
+++ Look into Eberhard's image editor (Dale's page).  He has the
conversion from most of'em from/to most of'em.  He has the only
viable 8-bit save in GFA-W(16)!
>
>Why ?  Because if I can load and save STRING$ this
>way:
>
>1) I'll ensure that it won't get any bigger than this.
>2) Using PRINT#1, or the like you can store a whole
>   picture by printing =MULTIPLE= strings.
>3) This is =REALLY= speedy stuff !  I can load and
>   save this way in the blink of an eye !  :)
>
>But, I now have some PUT files, 16color, 256color,
>16bitcolor, 24bitcolor, and 32bitcolor and I need to
>figure them out !
>
>That's all from here !
>
>Thanks again Dale for the update !
>Yah I need my ego stroked daily but you know that and
>I'll all ways try to write good stuff in here !
>:)
>
>Sincerely,
>David W.

<G>
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
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--- Dale Bryant <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com>
> wrote:
> ALL FILES ARE FREE DOWNLOADS
> *********************************************
> Dale Bryant
> GFA Windows File DownLoad Area

Ahhm.  As Bartok said in Anastasia, Wow, like in Wow..
That's a lot of files.  But I can't see the version
# on my stuff.  Okay, I know, I should go only by
dates.  I'll try and do that then.  Here's a few
new ones.

Cathedr2 *
Correctly computes the vertices and angles I wanted
for stained-glass window.
The problem ?  Calculations are so complex for GFA
that it literally HANGS the entire computer when its
computing SIN under some cases.  It's not stuck in a
loop, it literally hangs on that one command.  (SIGH)
Pretty to watch, but be ready for CTRL-ALT-DEL to
remove it from the task list.
I don't want this one in the list because GFA shows
instability with complex SIN calculations.  I'll
need to look into SINQ for porting over maybe..

If someone has a clue how to get by this, especially
if it's not SIN but something else, please let me
know as I'd like to use this program as my default
screen-saver at nite.

Melt *
Okay !  This is da fun stuff !  For anyone who has
ever wanted to just plain plot and I mean plot a
pixel anywhere doesn't matter about windows or
nothing, this will do it !  Very good starting
program for writing your own custom TRUE
screen-savers !  Run it, go anywhere you like, when
ready to snooze the screen, put the mouse in the
top-left corner of the screen, like *MAGIC* the
screen will frost (or melt) over.  Tap any mouse
key to return back !
If you like it Dale, please put it in the list !  :)

That's all from here !  Yayayaya I get to see the
Pokemon movie =FINALLY= tomorrow man I been waiting
like forever for this !!

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> +++ On *some* systems, you may fine 15-bit!
> +++ The first QWindows & VB got off 16-colors of DOS
> +++ Win98 went into 32-bit color whole hog!.
> +++ Look into Eberhard's image editor (Dale's page).

Well, I think without a shadow of a doubt I am =NOT=
going to go this route.  Gooood Griiief!  That's way
too many resolutions I would need to port thru.

I'm now using some techniques knowing well yah that
~setpixel is slow.  Soo I'm getting around this by
only using ~setpixel where it needs to update, kinna
a smart screen plotter.

I thought vector would be the way to go, which it may
in time..  But I'm hungry for Gredit now and there's
too many games that are going on unwritten for GFA.
Gredit must be written before any of this can be seen.

I'm watching a bit on the making of Luna for the
Playstation, yah you get a CD movie to watch to thats
too cool !

GFA's extreme power at audio for both MIDI and .WAV
has yet to be tapped fully.  RPGs survival requires
these elements as well as graphic routines and
libraries that flow effectively and easily.

Because of GFA's technique ability to plot partially
off-screen, I can see entire packages written that
operate in 400x300 as well as storing every single
character, sprite, image, and detail for smaller games
in a single screen alone.

You can probably see this too !  What games would you
like to write and see ?  Let us know and we can all
work together on it !

Okay well with the difficulty faced loading and saving
screens, is there an easy technique to load/save that
supports any screen type ?

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
UNLESS I'm the "lonely li'l petunia in an onion patch", there are 
others like me who pay the fees.
<G>
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At 04:57 PM 24/02/00 -0800, you wrote:
>List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>--- Dale Bryant <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
>> List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com>
>> wrote:
>> Hi Anthony,
>> How is Mountain Software doing?
>> God Bless,
>> Dale
>> 
>
>Checked out Mountain Software homepage, nice !  :)
>Well, I'm curious cause I don't know.
>Has anyone registered Tuzzle where you received any
>income for your hard work at it and someone was
>granted the registration code # ?
>
>I'm asking cause I don't know where the world is
>today on Shareware.  I can write some very effective
>software for Shareware authors (which I would include
>and share FREE to anyone in this GFAForum always,
>but I want to know if Shareware actually works.
>
>Sincerely,
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--- Tom Record
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> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> UNLESS I'm the "lonely li'l petunia in an onion
> patch", there are 
> others like me who pay the fees.
> <G>
> TomR.
> >> wrote:
> >> Hi Anthony,
> >> How is Mountain Software doing?
> >> God Bless,
> >> Dale
> >> 
> >
> >Checked out Mountain Software homepage, nice !  :)
> >Well, I'm curious cause I don't know.
> >Has anyone registered Tuzzle where you received any
> >income for your hard work at it and someone was
> >granted the registration code # ?
> >
> >I'm asking cause I don't know where the world is
> >today on Shareware.  I can write some very
> effective
> >software for Shareware authors (which I would
> include
> >and share FREE to anyone in this GFAForum always,
> >but I want to know if Shareware actually works.
> >
> >Sincerely,
> >David W.

Well Tom, let me hear from the Author of Mountain
because they're the ones that seem to have Shareware
set-up.  I have written at least a dozen programs to
assist in Shareware Registration development but I
want to first off see, in today's time, if it actually
works.  If not, then my progress and programs I
have written are of no use to anyone, and I need to
know this..

Sincerely,
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Okay having had a chance to look over
MarkMidi, Midi, and I think it was MidiLev, my
question is this.

Is there a really easy way to play a single note
out of MIDI with any instrument ?

Something like this:

PROCEDURE PlayNote(InstrID,Pitch,Duration)

InstrID=0, Pitch=50, Duration=2
For instance might play Piano, 50th key on the
piano keyboard, for maybe a half note duration.

Where all 3 arguments are straight INTEGER.
It would play the note in the background immediately
returning back even before it finishes playing it.

Why would this be good knowledge ?

Here is what could be written !  :)

+ Environmental Sound Generator
  I could put together a sound program that makes
rain,
  waterfalls, tropical skies with birds, windstorms,
  etc.

+ Wind Chimes, using scales of Dorian or Ritsu,
  I could put together a nice program that sounds
  like windchimes in a gentle breeze.

+ Music Generator.  Instead of going through the
  complex motions of learning MIDI or unlearning
  techniques most people use to play by ear, I
  could rewrite Maestra, a program I wrote years ago
  that allows people to write music entirely by ear
  and showing not sheet music, but the piano keys
  highlighted tilted 90 degrees.

There are applications and ideas beyond this,
but so far what I've seen exceeds 1,000 lines of
code !  Can a single MIDI note be played in less
code space then this ?

Sincerely,
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Okay !  Engelbert van Loock has submitted code that
is 100 lines long.  This is good but it can surely
be smaller code without using records and accessing
system .DLLs.  I also cannot understand just about
any of it..

Engelbert wants a WindChime generator and I'm pretty
sure I could write a good one with easy-to-understand
MIDI note playing code.

Is there some way to use MCI$ to play a single MIDI
note ?

Perhaps a custom-written MIDI piece of music with one
note in it that could be bounced around pitches and
instruments.

The price is still at 100, do I hear 50 ?
50 lines of code minus DLLs and Record variables !  :)

--- David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Okay having had a chance to look over
> MarkMidi, Midi, and I think it was MidiLev, my
> question is this.
> 
> Is there a really easy way to play a single note
> out of MIDI with any instrument ?
> 
> Something like this:
> 
> PROCEDURE PlayNote(InstrID,Pitch,Duration)
> 
> InstrID=0, Pitch=50, Duration=2
> For instance might play Piano, 50th key on the
> piano keyboard, for maybe a half note duration.
> 
> Where all 3 arguments are straight INTEGER.
> It would play the note in the background immediately
> returning back even before it finishes playing it.
> 
> Why would this be good knowledge ?
> 
> Here is what could be written !  :)
> 
> + Environmental Sound Generator
>   I could put together a sound program that makes
> rain,
>   waterfalls, tropical skies with birds, windstorms,
>   etc.
> 
> + Wind Chimes, using scales of Dorian or Ritsu,
>   I could put together a nice program that sounds
>   like windchimes in a gentle breeze.
> 
> + Music Generator.  Instead of going through the
>   complex motions of learning MIDI or unlearning
>   techniques most people use to play by ear, I
>   could rewrite Maestra, a program I wrote years ago
>   that allows people to write music entirely by ear
>   and showing not sheet music, but the piano keys
>   highlighted tilted 90 degrees.
> 
> There are applications and ideas beyond this,
> but so far what I've seen exceeds 1,000 lines of
> code !  Can a single MIDI note be played in less
> code space then this ?
> 
> Sincerely,
> David W.
> 
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Okay !  He resubmitted !  We're down to 12 lines
now !  Yah I was working on it too, I got it chopped
down to 27 lines so he beat me to the punch.  :)

He also told me there is no way to use MCI$ to play
MIDI notes so that's out..

Now all I need is the instrument changed from default
Piano to what I think are at least 400 choices of
instruments.  Celesta and AuralHarp would be good for
Windchimes.

Man he must really want this WindChime program so baad
because he keeps sending me great code for MIDI !  :)

--- David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Okay !  Engelbert van Loock has submitted code that
> is 100 lines long.  This is good but it can surely
> be smaller code without using records and accessing
> system .DLLs.  I also cannot understand just about
> any of it..
> 
> Engelbert wants a WindChime generator and I'm pretty
> sure I could write a good one with
> easy-to-understand
> MIDI note playing code.
> 
> Is there some way to use MCI$ to play a single MIDI
> note ?
> 
> Perhaps a custom-written MIDI piece of music with
> one
> note in it that could be bounced around pitches and
> instruments.
> 
> The price is still at 100, do I hear 50 ?
> 50 lines of code minus DLLs and Record variables ! 
> :)
> 
> --- David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Okay having had a chance to look over
> > MarkMidi, Midi, and I think it was MidiLev, my
> > question is this.
> > 
> > Is there a really easy way to play a single note
> > out of MIDI with any instrument ?
> > 
> > Something like this:
> > 
> > PROCEDURE PlayNote(InstrID,Pitch,Duration)
> > 
> > InstrID=0, Pitch=50, Duration=2
> > For instance might play Piano, 50th key on the
> > piano keyboard, for maybe a half note duration.
> > 
> > Where all 3 arguments are straight INTEGER.
> > It would play the note in the background
> immediately
> > returning back even before it finishes playing it.
> > 
> > Why would this be good knowledge ?
> > 
> > Here is what could be written !  :)
> > 
> > + Environmental Sound Generator
> >   I could put together a sound program that makes
> > rain,
> >   waterfalls, tropical skies with birds,
> windstorms,
> >   etc.
> > 
> > + Wind Chimes, using scales of Dorian or Ritsu,
> >   I could put together a nice program that sounds
> >   like windchimes in a gentle breeze.
> > 
> > + Music Generator.  Instead of going through the
> >   complex motions of learning MIDI or unlearning
> >   techniques most people use to play by ear, I
> >   could rewrite Maestra, a program I wrote years
> ago
> >   that allows people to write music entirely by
> ear
> >   and showing not sheet music, but the piano keys
> >   highlighted tilted 90 degrees.
> > 
> > There are applications and ideas beyond this,
> > but so far what I've seen exceeds 1,000 lines of
> > code !  Can a single MIDI note be played in less
> > code space then this ?
> > 
> > Sincerely,
> > David W.
> > 
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Well, the Wind Chime program is all finished but it
sounds kinna funky on piano instrument only.

If someone out there knows how to change instruments
with either:

~@@midiOutShortMsg()

or

~@@midiOutLongMsg()

Please let me know so I can get this out for
everyone.

There must be a really neat trick to change to one
of the some odd 400 instruments I just don't know
what it is.  :)

And they =YANKED= Pokemon 2 days before I arrived !
Acch !  I'll have to rent it or something when it
comes out on tape..  :/

Sincerely,
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List Member "Andras Szalay" <a.szalay@mail.matav.hu> wrote:

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>>If someone out there knows how to change instruments
>>with either:
>>~@@midiOutShortMsg()
>>or
>>~@@midiOutLongMsg()

David,

since the official MIDI specification is very confusing, I wrote
a short form data sheet a long time ago what I use always when
I work with MIDI messages. I send you now this sheet attached.
If you send information like Note on, Note off, Program change,
Pitch bend, Controller (changing volume, vibrato, attack, decay, etc.)
these are all channel messages. This means that there are 16
simultaneous channels that you can use to play different instruments
at the same time. As you can see from the table, all channel 
messages consist of 

1 status byte (range: 128...255)
1 or 2 data bytes (range: 0...127)

Note on and Note off are 3 byte messages, Program change is only
2 bytes. A Program change is:

$C0 + n 	(n: channel number)
m		(m: program number)

If you put these two bytes in a ~@@midiOutShortMsg(), Windows
automatically recognizes from the status byte that it is a two byte
message and it will not send out the dummy 0s.

Andras Szalay


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Subject: Re: [gfabasic] Wind Chimes
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
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Greets Andras:
Hey !  Thanks for writing !  :)

This table is perhaps more complex than it needs
to be, I don't know ??

Included is the MIDI Box thingie I'm working on
trying to solve it.

I don't need or have to define Attack/Decay, or
anything.  It just plays it and pretty well too.

MidiMsg = &107f0000
'            V OP I
' V=Volume, O=Octave, P=Pitch, I=Instrument Sorta

The single command
~@@midiOutShortMsg(MIDI,MidiMsg + O * 4096 + P * 256 +
I)

Where O is octave,
P is pitch
and I is sorta Instrument

Plays a perfect note every time !
No further definition or details are needed !

I say sorta because it apparently is also changes
instruments but at a level I don't understand.

If you feed in 154 for instrument, you have nice
piano, no problems !

If instrument is 153 you have a =SMALL= selection
of sound FX.  Now I now this is not the lot of
them, there must be more and there are, by randomly
skipping instrument up and down the scale it changes
the instrument # somehow in a way I can't follow.

I'm not so much interested in Attack, Decay, Channel,
Volume, or anything so complex as just playing a
note at a certain Pitch with a certain instrument.
That's all.  In this, I could find AuraHarp and
Celesta and write spiffy WindChime program that
sits on top of your desktop and activates when you
click on it.

PlayNote(Instrument,Octave,Pitch)
' ^ Period, any instruments that require you to
'   turn them off because they continue to play in
'   the background would be, at this point in my
'   learning MIDI, undesirable until I master the
'   other 3 basics above Instr, Octave, Pitch

Try out "R" in piano mode to get an idea of the
audio.

Sourcecode to Midi Box enclosed !
Full credit goes to Engelbert van Loock for providing
the core source code !

Dale, if you're in on this, this is =JUST= a
sample program.  Lemme figure it out =REALLY= first
and then I'll send something worth really being good
software and easy-to-understand source-code !
 
Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Gotcha !  Found the instrument changer code !

Andras I just found it, it's # 202 !
It doesn't match anything in your table at all,
nor does it make any sense !  But I'm gonna use it !

Okay, one Windchime program coming riiiiight up !  :)

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List Member rroriolo@wanadoo.es wrote:
Hello David:

Here is a simple way to change the sound of MIDI instruments.
This is based on code sent last year, may be by Andras Szalay. (Sorry,
I've lost the original!)
--------------------
//Change sound of MIDI instruments

DLL #1, "mmsystem.dll"
  DECL LONG midiOutShortMsg(w,l)
  DECL LONG midiOutOpen(l,w,l,l,l)
  DECL LONG midiOutClose(w)
ENDDLL
MIDIMAPPER&   = 0

IF ^midiOutOpen(*HMO_&, MIDIMAPPER&, NULL, NULL, 0)
  PRINT "no success!"
  KEYGET k
  END
ENDIF
Sound| = 57   //**************choose any sound from 0 to 127
channel| = 0   //chose from 0 to 15
OUT3 2,192,chnnel|,Sound|,dummy&            //change sound
NoteOn| = 144
Velocity| = 127                                              //loudness
for the played note ;0=no sound
FOR i& = 60 TO 90                                      //choose for 0 to
127 to play all midinotes
  OUT3 3,NoteOn|,channel|,i&,Velocity|        //plays the midinote i&
  PAUSE 2
  OUT3 3,NoteOn|,channel|,i&,0                    //note i& muted
NEXT i&
~^midiOutClose (HMO_&)
END

PROCEDURE OUT3 (Lenght|,status&, channel&, data1&, data2&)  //
Lenght|=lenght of message
  BYTE{*lmsg% + 0} = status& | channel&
  BYTE{*lmsg% + 1} = data1&
  IF Lenght| = 3
    BYTE{*lmsg% + 2} = data2&
    BYTE{*lmsg% + 3} = 0
  ELSE
    BYTE{*lmsg% + 2} = 0
  ENDIF
  ~^midiOutShortMsg (HMO_&, lmsg%)
RETURN
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:


--- rroriolo@wanadoo.es wrote:
> List Member rroriolo@wanadoo.es wrote:
> Hello David:
> 
> Here is a simple way to change the sound of MIDI
> instruments.
> This is based on code sent last year, may be by
> Andras Szalay. (Sorry,
> I've lost the original!)
> --------------------
> //Change sound of MIDI instruments
> 
> DLL #1, "mmsystem.dll"
>   DECL LONG midiOutShortMsg(w,l)
>   DECL LONG midiOutOpen(l,w,l,l,l)
>   DECL LONG midiOutClose(w)
> ENDDLL
> MIDIMAPPER&   = 0
> 
> IF ^midiOutOpen(*HMO_&, MIDIMAPPER&, NULL, NULL, 0)
>   PRINT "no success!"
>   KEYGET k
>   END
> ENDIF
> Sound| = 57   //**************choose any sound from
> 0 to 127
> channel| = 0   //chose from 0 to 15
> OUT3 2,192,chnnel|,Sound|,dummy&            //change
> sound
> NoteOn| = 144
> Velocity| = 127                                     
>         //loudness
> for the played note ;0=no sound
> FOR i& = 60 TO 90                                   
>   //choose for 0 to
> 127 to play all midinotes
>   OUT3 3,NoteOn|,channel|,i&,Velocity|       
> //plays the midinote i&
>   PAUSE 2
>   OUT3 3,NoteOn|,channel|,i&,0                   
> //note i& muted
> NEXT i&
> ~^midiOutClose (HMO_&)
> END
> 
> PROCEDURE OUT3 (Lenght|,status&, channel&, data1&,
> data2&)  //
> Lenght|=lenght of message
>   BYTE{*lmsg% + 0} = status& | channel&
>   BYTE{*lmsg% + 1} = data1&
>   IF Lenght| = 3
>     BYTE{*lmsg% + 2} = data2&
>     BYTE{*lmsg% + 3} = 0
>   ELSE
>     BYTE{*lmsg% + 2} = 0
>   ENDIF
>   ~^midiOutShortMsg (HMO_&, lmsg%)
> RETURN
> -----------------
> 
> Regards from Spain
> Roberto Oriolo
> 
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Aahh..  Ooohh..  Noo...

I found how to change to different instruments
already.

I don't want to make any instruments, and I'm
almost finished with Wind Chimes !  Everyone is
going to get a crash course in smoked glass &
magic tricks too the way it turned out.

I am very pleased with the progress !
Complete with graphic menu, preferences, and
beautiful interface !

Huzzah !

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
That's right !  And man am I proud !
If anybody ever says they're not going to leave
QBasic, just show them this program !

=THIS= program is a good reason why I left QBasic
behind.

Thanks to Russell Hayward for introducing me to
this almighty powerful language !  :)

Sorry guys, the only notes I could figure out
were Engelbert van Loock's.  So he gets sub-credit
and (more importantly) he gets a very fine Wind Chime
program that he asked for !

Hope ya like it, Mr. Loock !  I couldn't have done it
without and I =REALLY= do mean that !

I don't know why this GFAForum is so dead but it
needs to liven up a bit !

If none of you truly have any idea what to talk about,
I'd like to open a topic on DLLs.  I =SORTA=
understood what Mr. Loock provided me with, my
question, what else can be accessed besides MIDI
with this ?

DLL #1,"mmsystem.dll"

With such a generic name, maybe hundreds, thousands
of secret stuffs inside ???

Since GFA is too small to take the upload, you
can get your Wind Chimes here !

http://www.geocities.com/dw817/gfabasic/windchim.zip

If you're having trouble getting it, let me know
please !

That's all from here !  Haven't eaten or slept for
about a day and a half but I feel great !

Eat first.
Play a bit of Lunar on my Playstation

and then ...

I can sleep... some... just a bit... zzz ...  :)

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Well if every one is have a hang over for the
week end, I'm sorry, I can't help you there.  :)

This is my first program using MIDI bits now.
If you can please, check it out on your computer
and see that it does run good.  If not, I
need to know so I can see and how to fix it.

Thanks !

Fast fix up coming out to day to fix one bug I
found: MOUSE still works at button spots even
when shrinked I fixed now !

Same down load place:
http://www.geocities.com/dw817/gfabasic/windchim.zip

Tom Record sent me some help files on this .DLL
stuff, is there some thing that is more easy to
read ?

Sincerely,
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List Member "Andras Szalay" <a.szalay@mail.matav.hu> wrote:
David,

you select a new instrument using this routine:

PROCEDURE NewInstr(I%)
  ' -----------------------------------------------------> Select a New MIDI instrument
  ~@@MIDIOUTSHORTMSG(MIDI%,8323072 + I% * 256 + 202)
  ' ^ Man I had to find this all by myself !   ^
  '   It took forever to find but was worth it !
  '   :)
  '   This doesn't seem to be all the instruments though,
  '   is there a way to access the rest of them ?
RETURN

>>  ' ^ Man I had to find this all by myself !   ^
>>  '   It took forever to find but was worth it !
I do not like complicated documentations either, but sometimes
documentations are worth to investigate. It spares you a lot of
time from one side, from the other side it gives you a chance to
understand your own program. Since 8323072 is 2^16*127,
in the above code you obviously attempt to send out the sequence
202, I%, 127.

202 is $C0 (program change) + 10 (channel 11).

1.)
Since program change is a two byte command, the number
8323072 is perfectly unnecessary in your code, it is ignored
by Windows anyway. 

2.)
In most MIDI applications it is useful to let the user choose
the MIDI channel; if you fix it, then at least do not use channels
 >= 10, because these channels are often configured 
(especially in external synthesizers) to specific purposes,
e.g. drum sounds only. Best to use channel one as default.

3.)
The Program Change command lets you choose one of 128
sounds; if your synthesizer or sound card has more than that
(today almost every) you have to use Bank Select commands 
for that. These are a little bit more complicated to describe here,
you find a description on tausend places on the web. This lets
you to select one of 128 banks, before you choose a sound.
So you have altogether the possibility to access up to
16384 sounds.

4.)
I send you the following MIDI output skeleton program.
Combined with the information from the table what I sent earlier,
this allows you to send all kind of channel messages,
not only Note On / Note Off. 
Note that evaluating the error message of midiOutOpen
is very useful.

Andras Szalay


midi_init
send(144,64,100)  // note on at channel 1
PAUSE 10
send(128,64,0)    // note off at channel 1
midi_close
END
PROCEDURE midi_init
  DLL #1, "mmsystem.dll"
    DECL LONG midiOutShortMsg(w,l)
    DECL LONG midiOutOpen(l,w,l,l,l)
    DECL LONG midiOutClose(w)
    DECL LONG midiOutGetErrorText(w,l,w)
  ENDDLL
  MIDIMAPPER&   = -1
  er& = @@midiOutOpen(*hmo&, MIDIMAPPER&, NULL, NULL, 0)
  IF er&
    Error$ = SPACE$(128)
    ~@@midiOutGetErrorText(er&,V:Error$,LEN(Error$))
    MESSAGE Error$,"Error:",MB_OK,Dummy&
  ENDIF
RETURN
PROCEDURE midi_close
  ~^midiOutClose(hmo&)
RETURN
PROCEDURE send(status&, data1&, data2&)
  BYTE{*lmsg% + 0} = status&
  BYTE{*lmsg% + 1} = data1&
  BYTE{*lmsg% + 2} = data2&
  BYTE{*lmsg% + 3} = 0
  ~^midiOutShortMsg(hmo&, lmsg%)
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:


--- Andras Szalay <a.szalay@mail.matav.hu> wrote:
> List Member "Andras Szalay" <a.szalay@mail.matav.hu>
> wrote:
> David,
> 
> you select a new instrument using this routine:
> 
> PROCEDURE NewInstr(I%)
>   '
>
----------------------------------------------------->
> Select a New MIDI instrument
>   ~@@MIDIOUTSHORTMSG(MIDI%,8323072 + I% * 256 + 202)
>   ' ^ Man I had to find this all by myself !   ^
>   '   It took forever to find but was worth it !
>   '   :)
>   '   This doesn't seem to be all the instruments
> though,
>   '   is there a way to access the rest of them ?
> RETURN
> 
> >>  ' ^ Man I had to find this all by myself !   ^
> >>  '   It took forever to find but was worth it !
> I do not like complicated documentations either, but
> sometimes
> documentations are worth to investigate. It spares
> you a lot of
> time from one side, from the other side it gives you
> a chance to
> understand your own program. Since 8323072 is
> 2^16*127,

MidiMsg = &007f0000
is wanted the 7 is how loud, if its just 0 it won't
play..  The F I dunno about, I just left it.  :)

> in the above code you obviously attempt to send out
> the sequence
> 202, I%, 127.
> 
> 202 is $C0 (program change) + 10 (channel 11).
> 
> 1.)
> Since program change is a two byte command, the
> number
> 8323072 is perfectly unnecessary in your code, it is
> ignored
> by Windows anyway. 

No, that is 
MidiMsg = &007f0000

Required on my end anyways.  I know all sound cards
are different.  If it ain't broke I ain't fixing it !
:)  I'm glad it works on everyone's computer
yayaya !!

Dale said it works great and that's good enough for
me!
Man I can make alla kinds neat space shooters and
stuff !!

> 
> 2.)
> In most MIDI applications it is useful to let the
> user choose
> the MIDI channel; if you fix it, then at least do
> not use channels
>  >= 10, because these channels are often configured 
> (especially in external synthesizers) to specific
> purposes,
> e.g. drum sounds only. Best to use channel one as
> default.

I don't know any of this..  I'm not setting any
channels.  It just works good.  :)

> 
> 3.)
> The Program Change command lets you choose one of
> 128
> sounds; if your synthesizer or sound card has more
> than that
> (today almost every) you have to use Bank Select
> commands 
> for that. These are a little bit more complicated to
> describe here,
> you find a description on tausend places on the web.
> This lets
> you to select one of 128 banks, before you choose a
> sound.
> So you have altogether the possibility to access up
> to
> 16384 sounds.

If you can send me a =REALLY= small program that
goes thru and does play after it does all 16384
listen to instruments that'd be neat !  :)

> 
> 4.)
> I send you the following MIDI output skeleton
> program.
> Combined with the information from the table what I
> sent earlier,
> this allows you to send all kind of channel
> messages,
> not only Note On / Note Off. 
> Note that evaluating the error message of
> midiOutOpen
> is very useful.

Error message ?  What's that !  :)
Man error checking and dee-buggs in GFA is so poor I
gotta figure it all out myself !

> 
> Andras Szalay
> 
> 
> midi_init
> send(144,64,100)  // note on at channel 1
> PAUSE 10
> send(128,64,0)    // note off at channel 1
> midi_close
> END
> PROCEDURE midi_init
>   DLL #1, "mmsystem.dll"
>     DECL LONG midiOutShortMsg(w,l)
>     DECL LONG midiOutOpen(l,w,l,l,l)
>     DECL LONG midiOutClose(w)
>     DECL LONG midiOutGetErrorText(w,l,w)
>   ENDDLL
>   MIDIMAPPER&   = -1
>   er& = @@midiOutOpen(*hmo&, MIDIMAPPER&, NULL,
> NULL, 0)
>   IF er&
>     Error$ = SPACE$(128)
>     ~@@midiOutGetErrorText(er&,V:Error$,LEN(Error$))
>     MESSAGE Error$,"Error:",MB_OK,Dummy&
>   ENDIF
> RETURN
> PROCEDURE midi_close
>   ~^midiOutClose(hmo&)
> RETURN
> PROCEDURE send(status&, data1&, data2&)
>   BYTE{*lmsg% + 0} = status&
>   BYTE{*lmsg% + 1} = data1&
>   BYTE{*lmsg% + 2} = data2&
>   BYTE{*lmsg% + 3} = 0
>   ~^midiOutShortMsg(hmo&, lmsg%)
> RETURN

Man you just went so much over my head !!

Mr. Loock I talked with in email and he sent me
100 line program.  I said it was too big, well he
was =REALLY= nice and rewrote it in 12 lines.
I sat and stared at it like an hour..  It was 12
lines so I didn't have to keep moving the screen..

I don't know what but it worked, it was great !
It was small enough it didn't confoose me !  :)

I learn by example all ways !

Andras the only way I really learn programming is
by example, and lots of other people other than sides
your self programming in a way I can't understand at
all.

Mr. Loock sent it really =REALLY= easy and it
worked.  That was enough for me.  :)

Math stuff is okay, but records, deelels remembery
any of that stuff I got zero clues on !

I wrote music on this piano same way, my music teacher
hates me the way I am playing a piano
but I win many awards days after in college
solo piano !  My own original music too !

Yayaya !!  :)

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Does anybody know anything about the RMF format?  It's
RealPlay's *.ram, multiple image animation/flic.  I don't
find any info on this one.
<G>
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
--- Tom Record
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> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Does anybody know anything about the RMF format? 
> It's
> RealPlay's *.ram, multiple image animation/flic.  I
> don't
> find any info on this one.
> <G>
> TomR.

Greets Tom:

I'm doing well enough making the computer sound
like an old brass windchime.  :)

I know how you can =PLAY= real audio videos and
audio in GFA if you'd like to know !

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Proper Icon Care

Most contemporary icons are produced with great care and attention to 
detail.  How ever, being subjected to repeated clicking and constant 
bombardment by cathode rays they tend to deteriorate over time.

In order to maintain their graphic integrity it is recommended that the 
following procedure be followed at least once every six months:

1.  Remove the icon from the monitor, being careful to handle it only by 
the edges to avoid pixel damage.

2.  Soak in a luke warm soapy solution for 5-10 minutes.  Do not rub or 
scrub or pixels may be shifted, resulting in serious disintegation of the 
image.

3.  Remove from bath and stand on edge to dry.  Under no circumstance 
attempt to dry with a rag or lens tissue and never subject to blow drying 
or permanent damage may result.  If more than 5% of the pixels have seen 
lost, replace icon with a new one.

4.  Carefully replace cleaned icon in monitor, taking special care not to 
touch the surface.  Allow to set one hour before using.

If icons need to be exchanged from one computer to another they should be 
transported only in specially prepared icon cases available at any computer 
or electronic  supply store.

Remember, icons are the heart and soul of the Windows environment and 
should be treated accordingly.

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From: Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net>
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Subject: [gfabasic] Proper Icon Care


> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Proper Icon Care
>
> Most contemporary icons are produced with great care and attention to
> detail.  How ever, being subjected to repeated clicking and constant
> bombardment by cathode rays they tend to deteriorate over time.
>
> In order to maintain their graphic integrity it is recommended that the
> following procedure be followed at least once every six months:
>
> 1.  Remove the icon from the monitor, being careful to handle it only by
> the edges to avoid pixel damage.
>
> 2.  Soak in a luke warm soapy solution for 5-10 minutes.  Do not rub or
> scrub or pixels may be shifted, resulting in serious disintegation of the
> image.
>
> 3.  Remove from bath and stand on edge to dry.  Under no circumstance
> attempt to dry with a rag or lens tissue and never subject to blow drying
> or permanent damage may result.  If more than 5% of the pixels have seen
> lost, replace icon with a new one.
>
> 4.  Carefully replace cleaned icon in monitor, taking special care not to
> touch the surface.  Allow to set one hour before using.
>
> If icons need to be exchanged from one computer to another they should be
> transported only in specially prepared icon cases available at any
computer
> or electronic  supply store.
>
> Remember, icons are the heart and soul of the Windows environment and
> should be treated accordingly.
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--- Tom Record
<tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Proper Icon Care
> 
> Most contemporary icons are produced with great care
> and attention to 
> detail.  How ever, being subjected to repeated
> clicking and constant 
> bombardment by cathode rays they tend to deteriorate
> over time.
> 
> In order to maintain their graphic integrity it is
> recommended that the 
> following procedure be followed at least once every
> six months:
> 
> 1.  Remove the icon from the monitor, being careful
> to handle it only by 
> the edges to avoid pixel damage.
> 
> 2.  Soak in a luke warm soapy solution for 5-10
> minutes.  Do not rub or 
> scrub or pixels may be shifted, resulting in serious
> disintegation of the 
> image.
> 
> 3.  Remove from bath and stand on edge to dry. 
> Under no circumstance 
> attempt to dry with a rag or lens tissue and never
> subject to blow drying 
> or permanent damage may result.  If more than 5% of
> the pixels have seen 
> lost, replace icon with a new one.
> 
> 4.  Carefully replace cleaned icon in monitor,
> taking special care not to 
> touch the surface.  Allow to set one hour before
> using.
> 
> If icons need to be exchanged from one computer to
> another they should be 
> transported only in specially prepared icon cases
> available at any computer 
> or electronic  supply store.
> 
> Remember, icons are the heart and soul of the
> Windows environment and 
> should be treated accordingly.

Well Tom..

I lost mine years ago due to too many clicks,
I get a little out of control when the computer locks
up and I start clicks 100 taps a second to see
whats the matter is

I cut out pictures from my favorite comic books
and put those in place of the icons.  They click
just as well but my Batman keeps jumping under a
window to hide himself, Tom the cat keeps chasing
after my mouse pointer, and superman puts himself
under every window with his arms wide out like he's
carrying it or something.  Sailor Moon ?  Well,
she's not so annoying but she sure does live up
to her name !  That girl's got no shame !  :)

Sincerely,
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> List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> --- Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> > List Member Tom Record
> > <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> > Proper Icon Care
> > 
> > Most contemporary icons are produced with great care
> > and attention to 
> > detail.  How ever, being subjected to repeated
> > clicking and constant 
> > bombardment by cathode rays they tend to deteriorate
> > over time.
> > 
> > In order to maintain their graphic integrity it is
> > recommended that the 
> > following procedure be followed at least once every
> > six months:
> > 
> > 1.  Remove the icon from the monitor, being careful
> > to handle it only by 
> > the edges to avoid pixel damage.
> > 
> > 2.  Soak in a luke warm soapy solution for 5-10
> > minutes.  Do not rub or 
> > scrub or pixels may be shifted, resulting in serious
> > disintegation of the 
> > image.
> > 
> > 3.  Remove from bath and stand on edge to dry. 
> > Under no circumstance 
> > attempt to dry with a rag or lens tissue and never
> > subject to blow drying 
> > or permanent damage may result.  If more than 5% of
> > the pixels have seen 
> > lost, replace icon with a new one.
> > 
> > 4.  Carefully replace cleaned icon in monitor,
> > taking special care not to 
> > touch the surface.  Allow to set one hour before
> > using.
> > 
> > If icons need to be exchanged from one computer to
> > another they should be 
> > transported only in specially prepared icon cases
> > available at any computer 
> > or electronic  supply store.
> > 
> > Remember, icons are the heart and soul of the
> > Windows environment and 
> > should be treated accordingly.
> 
> Well Tom..
> 
> I lost mine years ago due to too many clicks,
> I get a little out of control when the computer locks
> up and I start clicks 100 taps a second to see
> whats the matter is
> 
> I cut out pictures from my favorite comic books
> and put those in place of the icons.  They click
> just as well but my Batman keeps jumping under a
> window to hide himself, Tom the cat keeps chasing
> after my mouse pointer, and superman puts himself
> under every window with his arms wide out like he's
> carrying it or something.  Sailor Moon ?  Well,
> she's not so annoying but she sure does live up
> to her name !  That girl's got no shame !  :)
> 
> Sincerely,
> David W.
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Greets Mr. McElectronics:

You'll have to wait for our Great White Captain
to do this.  None of us have the know how.
I don't think it's an done right now thing
so he has to see the words first or some such stuff..

G'nite !  :)

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Okay, shoot.
Am playing w/ several ideas about these.  One being to pull the images out
& make new animations using codec-compression - to get away from the Real
Play appl.  Another being to combine several bits & pieces back into a
single flic (or animation).

I know the header is 625 bytes, but can find NO demarcation between images.
The final bytes are not the same in a bunch of these, so something in the 
header has to tell the X-Y dimensions.  They run too fast to attempt to
count the # of images in each.  One "this=#" *may* be the speed factor.

Am game to try most anything these days.
Thanks
<G>
TomR.



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>> It's
>> RealPlay's *.ram, multiple image animation/flic.  I
>> don't
>> find any info on this one.
>> <G>
>> TomR.
>
>Greets Tom:
>
>I'm doing well enough making the computer sound
>like an old brass windchime.  :)
>
>I know how you can =PLAY= real audio videos and
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> List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com>
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> GFA16
> David Wicker will ring your bell with
> WINDCHIM.ZIP
> 02/28/00
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Hiya Dale !  Thanks for the ego boost !  :)

I've got a new version:

' WHAT'S NEW ??

' Feb 28th, 2000 * Added some useful comments in
critical parts of the code
'                + Placing in corner reveals buttons
only, this was a lotta work !
'                + Removed complex refresh in place of
Russell's AlwaysOnTopWindow
'                + Added >Click!< for any corner
window selection

But if you want to, you can wait until after I add
Aura.  I hope Mr. Loocke can write something simple
enough I'll know how to use the sounds that will
go on to play around until you tweak them again to
stop.  That will be needed in Aura.

I play Wind Chimes when I sleep at night and I sleep
better !  Soooo just wait'll I get STORM done !
With lots of rain and thunder and bolts and falling
rain on the screen !

Dju like the smoked glass effects in Wind Chimes ?
I'm gonna try and make all my stuff do this.

Sincerely,
David W.

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HI David,
Yes, I do like the glass effect.  Very nice.

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> Dju like the smoked glass effects in Wind Chimes ?
> I'm gonna try and make all my stuff do this.
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:


--- Dale Bryant <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
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> Yes, I do like the glass effect.  Very nice.

Well it didn't come out =REALLY= perfect but close.
When I write LowBlur I'll put all of the techniques
in smoked glass there.  You can't just OR and AND
it like that all the time.  There's some math ahhm,
anamolies that come into play if you OR or AND in
the wrong places and it looks trashy.  Okay !

I don't know if that Whoooosh is too loud on anyone's
speakers.  I may want to lower volume on that or
something.  You can just barely hear that itty bitty
click on the buttons and the chimes are softer
than the whoooosh..

I'm talking with Engelbert.  He's really smart on
this MIDI stuff !  Man it so kick that you can pop
out a MIDI note with 1-line of code !  My sourcecode
is already up to 800 lines even with so you can see
why I like tiny stuff.

There was a Mountain Software guy that wrote Tuzzler ?
Is he still in here ?  And if so, whatcha know about
Shareware huum ??  :)  And your executable was really
big !  So you must have the compiler.  Is that your
voice that does the Tuzzler ?  Neat echo !

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Naw, ya gotsta do it yerself.  Ya needs oneo them new toofbrushes,
wid di flex-head, in case ya runs inta oneo dose new "Braille" icons.
<G>
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi Tom:

I'm poking around in the DOS goodies you sent me..
You.. ahhhm.. don't happen to have any help file
or read text for them do you ?

A lot I'm prolly not going to know how to use.

See Dad tomorrow to do his end o' month billing !

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List Member "Malcolm Jack Howard" <machoward@bigpond.com> wrote:
.I need to discover if a folder exists before I try to MKDIR. In GFA this is
the nearest I've come to doing this:

IF EXIST(folder$+"\*.*")
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   .
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This is fine if there is any sort of file within folder$. But if folder$
exists but there is no file or only sub-folders then an "access denied"
error is signalled on trying to create the folder.

I'm sure you Windows API guys will have an answer or is there even something
in GFA that I've missed.

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--- Dale Bryant <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com>
> wrote:
> I am wondering if the list is down or Tom Record if
> on vacation?

Greets Dale:

Yes, it does seem kinna.. ahhmm..  dead !  in here..

Not sure why.  Well I'm putting together a computer
for my neighbor downstairs.  Going to get them a
really polished system if I can.

He'll treat me And Rose to Olive Garden Saturday so
that's fine.  :)

As far as the list being down, is there a way to
check that ?

I was talking with Mr. Loock for a-while too and it's
all quiet from there.

(Truth of the matter is I think you and I just have
 =WAY= too much free time on our hands and everyone
 else is working for a living)  :)

Well, I can't do Aura for Wind Chimes until Mr.
Loock writes me back so I'll wait for that.

Dale, there's already a program that removes REM
statements from GFA Code.  Would it be..  ahhm..
rude if I wrote one that was a bit smaller ?

I imagine everyone would like a quick way to do away
with my mindless ramblings I insist on putting in all
of my code.  :)

That's all from here !

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Hi David,
The list is just slow, It gets that way now and then.
David, you write what you want. I am always glad to see a better way of
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> List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> --- Dale Bryant <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> > List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com>
> > wrote:
> > I am wondering if the list is down or Tom Record if
> > on vacation?
>
> Greets Dale:
>
> Yes, it does seem kinna.. ahhmm..  dead !  in here..
>
> Not sure why.  Well I'm putting together a computer
> for my neighbor downstairs.  Going to get them a
> really polished system if I can.
>
> He'll treat me And Rose to Olive Garden Saturday so
> that's fine.  :)
>
> As far as the list being down, is there a way to
> check that ?
>
> I was talking with Mr. Loock for a-while too and it's
> all quiet from there.
>
> (Truth of the matter is I think you and I just have
>  =WAY= too much free time on our hands and everyone
>  else is working for a living)  :)
>
> Well, I can't do Aura for Wind Chimes until Mr.
> Loock writes me back so I'll wait for that.
>
> Dale, there's already a program that removes REM
> statements from GFA Code.  Would it be..  ahhm..
> rude if I wrote one that was a bit smaller ?
>
> I imagine everyone would like a quick way to do away
> with my mindless ramblings I insist on putting in all
> of my code.  :)
>
> That's all from here !
>
> Sincerely,
> David W.
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--- Dale Bryant <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
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> The list is just slow, It gets that way now and
> then.
> David, you write what you want. I am always glad to
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> Dale

Well, I'm probably the worst programmer in this
lot here (from what I've seen so far), but I am a lot
more stubborn than most which attributes to most of
my deep-think math and calculations.  :)

There is an easier way to do string searches in most
everything I've seen.

I'm probably not going to write any GFA tools until
I get first stage Gredit complete.  That will have
16x16 char.set, and at that point (you know it),
I'm going to resend absolutely everything I've written
making use of Char16.  I hadda chance to see my
GFA screen-teasers on my Dad's computer, and ran them
on the one I was putting together.  You cannot rely
on typefaces to be there or to be the correct size.
I =MUST= write my own it seems.  Huum..

Well, I'm off to the newsgroups to clean out some
Hentai and then bed !  :)

Sincerely,
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:


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> Dale

Ah !  So you've finally reached Domaindom !
Congratulations Dale !  :)

Well, my nose is so deep and buried in Gredit right
now, I think that's what a lot of the other people
in here are doing too.  I have a fairly fast picture
reader/writer, takes 2 seconds to load/save 400x300
screen true RGB using BGET and BPUT partial arrays,
not limited to bitmaps but any screen type, and am
using it in Gredit.

Sorry, don't mean to tease anyone (too much) :)
INSTR is even more powerful than I thought, it has
a 3rd argument that determines the starting point too.
I could rewrite a lot of code I used earlier with
INSTR so it didn't include MID$.  Very nice !

Well, the weekend is upon us and not before time !
Gredit itself won't be released, but the products it
creates will !  Especially Char16.

Sincerely,
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Well, I sent it in here before but I guess it was
too big.  38k ?

You can get yours right ? here !  :)

http://www.geocities.com/dw817/gfabasic/bit8to7.zip

Dale, I think it's 1.5x faster, but can you check
please ?  If it's actually 2x faster, please show
make it as that and put over other Bit8To7.

Thanks !

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Am back home, with plenty of new pain, but *it* is only temporary.
The left arm is now painless.  I wear a brace around my neck so
I can't move my head very much.  This is annoying, but necessary.

I will play on the computer just a little each day, working on
improving my screensavers etc.  I had a very nice rest in hospital.

I have an enormously painful throat - much like a horrible chest
cold would create.  The Doctor went in from the front & worked on
the vertabra directly behind my voice box.  To cough feels like
there is a fish hook in my larnyx & it is being jerked strongly.

This will pass shortly & all of the swelling will go away.

I'm back... a little at a time.
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List Member Anthony Watson <awatson@pacifier.com> wrote:
> I need to discover if a folder exists before I try to MKDIR.

Try:

attr=FGATTR(folder$)
IF BTST(attr,4)<>0
  '** Folder exists
else
  '** Folder doesn't exist
endif

(This is for DOS/Win 3.1 short filenames)

Take care,

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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
May I wish you complete healing in a minimum amount of time.
Good to have you back
Dale

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From: "Tom Record" <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net>
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Subject: [gfabasic] I'm back... a little at a time.


> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Am back home, with plenty of new pain, but *it* is only temporary.
> The left arm is now painless.  I wear a brace around my neck so
> I can't move my head very much.  This is annoying, but necessary.
>
> I will play on the computer just a little each day, working on
> improving my screensavers etc.  I had a very nice rest in hospital.
>
> I have an enormously painful throat - much like a horrible chest
> cold would create.  The Doctor went in from the front & worked on
> the vertabra directly behind my voice box.  To cough feels like
> there is a fish hook in my larnyx & it is being jerked strongly.
>
> This will pass shortly & all of the swelling will go away.
>
> I'm back... a little at a time.
> <G>
> TomR.
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:


--- Malcolm Jack Howard <machoward@bigpond.com> wrote:
> List Member "Malcolm Jack Howard"
> <machoward@bigpond.com> wrote:
> .I need to discover if a folder exists before I try
> to MKDIR. In GFA this is
> the nearest I've come to doing this:
> 
> IF EXIST(folder$+"\*.*")
>    .
>    .
>    .
> ELSE
>   MKDIR folder$
>   .
>   .
>   .
> ENDIF

Greets Mac:
I don't know how long you've been waiting for an
answer, you just now showed up as posting it in my
mailbox.  :)

Mac, instead of doing that, you could use TRY and
CATCH to catch when a directory already exists.

TRY and CATCH can =ONLY= be used in a function
or procedure tho.

PROCEDURE MakeDir(F$)
  TRY
    MKDIR F$
  CATCH
  PRINT F$+" already exists!"
RETURN

If there's no trouble, it does everything inside
the TRY and RETURNs when it hits CATCH.
If there is trouble, it jumps immediately to CATCH
and executes everything there.

Because of this unusual way to catch errors, it is
usually desirable to write a PROCEDURE or FUNCTION
whose sole purpose is to see if there is an error
alone.

Hope This Helps, and look for Char8 coming soon to
a GFA Theatre near you !  (BYOP!)

Bring Your Own Popcorn !  :)

Sincerely,
David W.

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--- Tom Record
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> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Am back home, with plenty of new pain, but *it* is
> only temporary.
> The left arm is now painless.  I wear a brace around
> my neck so
> I can't move my head very much.  This is annoying,
> but necessary.
> 
> I will play on the computer just a little each day,
> working on
> improving my screensavers etc.  I had a very nice
> rest in hospital.
> 
> I have an enormously painful throat - much like a
> horrible chest
> cold would create.  The Doctor went in from the
> front & worked on
> the vertabra directly behind my voice box.  To cough
> feels like
> there is a fish hook in my larnyx & it is being
> jerked strongly.
> 
> This will pass shortly & all of the swelling will go
> away.
> 
> I'm back... a little at a time.
> <G>
> TomR.

Owwwitch !!  What happened ??

Biggest injury I've gotten here working on the
computer so far is losing my thumb print by using
it for my trackball (which for some strange reason)
works perfectly now.  :)

Sincerely,
David W.
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List Member "Russell Hayward" <russ@softhome.net> wrote:

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Yah well you'd have to have Banana Pudding for
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List Member "Malcolm Jack Howard" <machoward@bigpond.com> wrote:
Thanks, guys, you've solved the problem more than once.

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List Member gunnar.boenicke@t-online.de (Gunnar Boenicke) wrote:
> List Member "Malcolm Jack Howard" <machoward@bigpond.com> wrote:
> .I need to discover if a folder exists before I try to MKDIR. In GFA this
is
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>    .
>    .
>    .
> ELSE
>   MKDIR folder$
>   .
>   .
>   .
> ENDIF
>
Hi Howard,

try this:

IF EXIST(folder$+"\NUL")

NUL is not a existing File, but it is easy and works.

Bye

Gunnar

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Programmer Biography And Contact Information
 Bev Brown Author Of GFADLL4.DLL and Clone. Numerous Utilities. Proficient
In Both DOS And Windows Gfa Programming Wife Louise Brown says Someone Stop
Him! Contact
John Findlay John informs me that his programming interest vary. Helpful to
me as he points out errors in the GFAWHELP file. John is the author of
GIFLOAD.ZIP which loads and displays interlaced and non-interlaced .gifs
with no .DLL. You can find it on the files download page. You Can Email John
Findlay
Sjouke Hamstra Author Of The Book 'Programming In GFA-BASIC For Windows'.
One Of the Most Knowledgeable On GFA: Main Interest 1. GFA-Basic itself, its
possibilities and limitations 2. Windows API Married with 2 Children and A
Dog! Sjouke was the intermediary for GFA on CompuServe. Contact Sjouke
Hanstra
 Dale Bryant Started on the 8 bit Atari in 1982, then the Atari St. Both
Windows and DOS. I like to write programs that store information. I started
collecting GFA Window routines probably due to lack of knowledge on my part.
GFAWHELP was created because I thought it would be helpful to beginning GFA
programmers. Married with three grown children. You Can Email Dale Bryant
 Joe Hurst Author of The BBOX Series, One Of The Great Learning Tools For
Gfa Basic May Have The Number One Web Page For GFW Source Code See Link On
Index Page : Contact Joe Hurst
 Rueben Carlsen Areas Of Interest: Business App's Random Access Databases,
ISAM BTree multi-segment fast indexes.Anything else to do with learning GFA
For Windows 32 Bit GFA for Win 95 etc Contact Reuben Carlsen
 Tom Record Areas Of Most Interest, Image Graphics, Not Draw/Paint.You can
also find some GFA stuff here.:You Can Visit His Web Site Or You Can Email
Tom Record
 Eberhard Funck Beginning with programming in GFA Basic for Atari ST in
1992. Two vears later with Turbo Pascal and C for DOS and GFA Basic for
Windows I work as an engineer in the faktory "Blue Point" (BLAUPUNKT). My
programming style in GFA Basic is like that of C, therefore I don't like to
use the original GFA Basic function. I use only Windows API functions (I
mean that's better). My best programm is the CTRLTOOL.DLL. With this you can
make, also under Windows 3.xx, a good Program surface in Windows 95 look. I
love it, to make good grafical surfaces for good programms and to try
programming with all new API-Functions. You Can Email Eberhard Funck
 Dean Hodgson Database and educational applications, particularly in my
field of library automation.The Book Mark Project  -- School Library
Automation Software Department of Education, Training and Employment. Author
and currently project manager of the Book Mark school library automation
software system used by over 1300 schools in Australia (the #2 system in
this country). Married With 4 Children. Originally From Seattle You Can
Visit Deans Web Site You Can Email Dean Hodgson
Andy Magee I started programming on the Atari ST in 1986, and moved on to
PCs in1992. I've written a number of engineering/physic simulations and
fractal graphics programs. (One was published by the Materials Research
Society in 1989.) I've published several engineering utilities with GFA for
the flex circuit industry that are posted artists at www.rogers-corp.com\cmu
I've just completed a utility to help teach watercolor about paint pigments
and color mixing. My new web page includes several examples of my published
GFA programs. (Don't Miss Mrs. Magees Delightful Web Page) Visit  His Web
Site You Can Email Andy Magee
 Roshan Sharma Roshan L. Sharma is an outstanding authority in
telecommunications technology. He took an early retirement in 1984 after
over thirty years of pioneering research. He was in the Rockwell
International team that developed the first commercial modem and digital
switches. He has over 100 publications and holds five U.S. Patents in the
field. In 1981, Rockwell International awarded him the prestigious Leonardo
da Vinci Silver Medallion for being selected as one of the Engineer of the
Year. A high-profile lecturer and teacher, he has written three landmark
books on networking, Network Systems (1982), Network Topology Optimization
(1990) and Network Design Using EcoNets (1997). Currently he is an Adjunct
Professor of Electrical Engineering at Southern Methodist University and the
owner of an independent consultancy, Telecom Network Science. He can be
contacted at 214-691-6790 or P.O. Box 822938, Dallas, TX 75382 His Web Site
You Can Email Roshan Sharma
 Russell Hayward My hobbies are programming (obviously), playing cricket and
watching sport. I live in Hertfordshire, England and I hate database
programs (especially the ones that pretend to be programming languages His
Web Site You Can Email Russell Hayward
George Veichtlbauer Main programming interest -[data base / graphics /
utilities/et.] :Utilities, Windows API, and everything related to C++ :
Started programming in 1988 with an Amiga. Still developing some
applications for it. Im currently studying electronic engineering and
technical programming. You Can Email Georg Veichtlbauer
Thomas Gonschor I am 29 years old, married since half a year and living in
Germany. My Job is something between a system-administrator, a salesman, a
teacher and a programmer and I am working in a hospital. In my leisure time
I like to read a lot of science-magazines and I do a lot of sports like
gymnastics, volleyball and beach volleyball. I also coach a team of young
gymnasts. Furthermore I like to travel very much, my favorite countries are
USA (Calinfornia, the Rocky-Mountains) and Ireland. I also like
computergames and programming of course. You Can Email Thomas Gonschor
Thomas Elfert I have been programming in GFA since 1988 (first on AMIGA)
(Teleadress,Eti,Sample-Player,Mod-Player). Since 1992 GFA-Basic Pro for
WINDOWS. I am programming some Tools for German like an Agenda, PTB (get and
set time over DF from the Physical-Technical Institute in Braunschweig for
everyone), some Diagnostic-Tools for Elevators (DF), Message-Center (SMS
for D1,D2,e-plus and Text and numeric Messages for Citycall and Scall). His
Web Site You Can Email Thomas Elfert
Rory Street My name is Rory Street. I am 20 years old and am a programmer
for a cosultancy firm in England. I started writing on the Atari 800XL then
moved to the ST where I made programs for FTN Fidonet styles networks and
BBS monitoring software. I write on both the ST and PC now in Java, Visual
Basic, GFA Basic, C ++ and ASP. Rory Street - OS Integration plc
Scimmitar(tm) - The Network Management Process His Web Site You Can Email
Rory Street
John Kanold Programmer of Solkan Solitaire, a 15000 line shareware program I
have worked on for about ten years. It was first written for GFA3.0 Atari
ST. Ported to Windows in 1995. rated 5 stars by hotfiles.com. Now nearly 200
game types. full sound etc. It is a full working version and I feel it is
the best solitaire package available and maybe the largest application ever
written in GFA Basic. Also CAD/CAM programs - shareware, DXF to Funuc
programs to drive stepper motors. Cyptogram game - shareware cricket
scoreboard (talking dart scoreboard) - shareware on the Atari ST...ST
drawing program. ST CAD program. ST full blown MIDI program.ST BBS bulletin
board - with message boards and X-modem transfer His Web Site You Can Email
John Kanold
Doyle Whisenant I am 41 years old with a wife and 3 daughters. I have been
married for 23 years and live in Northern Alabama. I am interested in
graphic programming and programming small utility's for my own use. You Can
Email Doyle Whisenant
Roberto Oriolo Musician, arrranger,composer, programming in GfaBasic since
the old AtariST days, now tryng to translate my own MIDI routines from
GfaBasic to GFAW. I would like to contact with other music/MIDI programmers
(spanish, english, I can read french, italian, portuguese). I'm from Buenos
Aires, Argentina, living in Spain since 1977. You Can Email Roberto Oriolo
Peter Harder The German Stock-Exchange-Software "DAXA-Chart"
(www.daxa-chart.de), programming only with GFA-Basic.His Web Site You Can
Email Peter Harder
Anthony Watson I run my own business, Mountain Software, from my home in
Camas, Washington. My primary areas of programming interest are utilities
and applications, with my recipe database leading the pack. These days I
program exclusively in GFA for Windows, but I did a lot of development with
GFA on the Atari ST, a little with GFA on the Amiga, and I used Future BASIC
on the Macintosh. I've also programmed in a variety of BASIC's and assembly
language on an "Interact Model 1", an Atari 600XL, Atari 130XE, and others.
I am 34 years old, have been married for 11 years, and have an 8 year old
daughter. You can check out my programs and interests from my web page at
His Web Site You Can Email Anthony Watson
Steve Thornton My name Steve Thornton Sorrento, FL (USA) Main Interest: I
maintain a business-oriented relational database in GFA Basic for Windows. I
also maintain numerous individual client applications using this program and
a picture/description directory program in cooperation with my wife and her
plant business. I started out in 1980 as an 8-bit Atari developer, then
progressed to the ST. In 1990 I switched to IBM-comatibles (DOS), and then
to Windows in 1996, using GFA. My wife and I are "DINKS" (double-income, no
kids). But we treat our two bichon frize dogs like they were our kids. My
goal in life is to play with my computers and have people send me checks.
Also, I've found "independent programmer" and "president" are the only two
jobs you can do in your underwear. Steve is president of Micromiser
Software. His Web Site You Can Email Steve Thornton
Markus Kunter I wrote a prediction methode for environmental noise from
industrial plants and parking places,an analysis program for sound-data from
a sound-level-meter (connected on the serial port) and a couple of different
little program tools (any in GFAWIN). I am an engineer for electronic and
communication technic, like (mountain) biking, mountain climbing and
cross-country-skiing. You Can Email Markus Kuntner
Kevin Scott Mainly my programming interests have been primarily games, many
of which I have written for Atari systems. Most notably was a game called
'Cops and Robbers that I wrote in GFA basic that was marketed by JV
Software, Inc. I like many other GFA programmers had previously used Atari
versions of GFA and then 'converted' over to the IBM world. Professionally I
am a Foxpro/DBase Programmer, but I have written many IBM GFA programs also
including a BMP editor, a Decent Screen Saver (freeware), a Chess/Othello
type of game (which I haven't marketed yet), a Database Integrity Checker,
and various smaller programs and DLLs.I am 32 years old and married happily
for 8 years with no children. I have been programming since the TRS-80 and
Atari 400 days and have programmed at least to some degree in just about
every major programming language out there but mainly Basic and DBase type
languages are my area of expertise. I currently work for a large corporation
as a systems developer and do small projects on the side. Even though GFA
isn't a big name in the programming industry I have yet to find another
language that I like as well for writing games and small apps! His Photo You
Can Email Kevin Scott
Karl-Werner Rieger Karl-Werner Rieger 50 Years old, married,one
daughter,some horses and cats, I once studied meteorology and now I am an
engraver of moulds for casting tin figures. I come from Atari and changed to
windows, because all my customers and friends do not have any Ataris. I
began to write programs for windows since half a year. Most is standard and
CAD.His Web Site You Can Email Karl-Werner Rieger
George Redford Privately I find programming a fascinating ,extremely time
consuming, hobby,where time and the outside world cease to exist .My first
desk top computer was an IBM 5100 64k memory and 250k tape drive (those were
the days when programmers used bits not bytes to store information) and I
learnt the basic language from a book and programmed it in (IBM) Basic to
calculate and printout the wage slips for my small engineering factory.I
wrote a Golf club program which does the handicaps ,fixtures ,competitions
,accounts etc. for the 2 Atari Mega4 computers using ,guess what,a German
language which I had read about and bought named GFA BASIC. So
briefly,publicly I guess you can say that my interest in computers is
broadly speaking, database / business orientated. You Can Email George
Redford
Georg Pingl I am Georg S. Pingl from Vienna, Austria! I am a civil engineer
and I am programming in GFA-Basic since 1985. First I did it on the ATARI
ST, later on WIN 3.11 (1992?) and now under WIN32(WIN NT 4.0). My most
popular programms are: dimensioning of timber and steel
constructions - cd-dach a parameter studie for optimizing the costs of
the roofs over the platforms of the Austrian Railway Company (BB) business
management decision game (my master thesis) makes the user familiar with the
operational facts of construction indusrty. You Can Email Georg Pingl
Ulli Stemmeler Ulli Stemmeler . Main progr. interest: Tools for daily use. A
man of few words but many talents! His Web Site You Can Email Ulli Stemmeler
Milalrd Brainard Millar Brainard. Consultant to Telemetry Systems but works
independantly FORTRAN, BASIC, GFA for ATARI ST, GFA-DOS, and then on up to
GFW, it has been become second nature to develop SCADA and Remote Control
Applications for Water and Wastewater Treatment Plants. Communications over
hard wire, Private RF Nets, CDPD, and other Cellular Technologies present no
problems. Presently challenged to develop routines to more efficiently
transfer data from background applications to a main application analyzes
information, creates operating logs, and notifies operators of problems,
sometimes before they become critical. A Voice notification module is
normally a part of each application. I established Telemetry Systems for
Utilities, Inc. many years ago. Everything pictured has a GFA-DOS or GFW
application operating. Prior to GFW, I had several Water/Sewer plants
operated by Atari-ST under GFA-DOS. My ownership of Telemetry Systems, Inc.
was sold in March 1999. The present owners are heavily involved in
installation and turn-up of major Broadband communications systems for
Nortel Networks. I consult with them so therefore still use the TS address.
His Web Site You Can Email Millar Brainard
Mark Feaver Electronics technician repairing consumer audio and video
products. Playing with computers and music since 1978, starting with
TRS-80's, the AtariST and GFA in 1986-94, and GFA for Windows in late 94 to
present. Area of programming interest is in midi and karaoke software for my
own personal use and amusement.  Two GFA midi music programs, one for Atari
ST and one for Windows, are available on my web site I   like to collect
music files, and share midi and programming knowledge with other programmers
with the same interest.  Single (never married); born in Marion, Ohio;
currently live in Stockton, CA USA since 1963.  Also dabble in Borland C/C++
and Delphi languages. GFA Windows Midi-Karaoke Player is available on
several of the karaoke sites.You Can Visit His Web Site You Can Email Mark
Feaver
Peter Sejfried My name is Peter Sejfried. I come from Czstochowa, Poland.
Since 1990 I programmed in GFA on Atari. For 3 years I write programmes in
GFA for Windows only. My Main interests is the writing of useful programmes
and games. You Can Email Peter Sejfried.
Sven Kumlin Sven Kumlin . Working on a calendar/diary program. Started 4-5
years ago on Atari ST 1040, but it's not yet finished. I was a designer of
mechanical test equipment at Volvo. Now I am a pensioner (66). You Can Email
Sven Kumlin
David Wicker David Wicker . Hello ! I would never have found out about
GFABasic if it were not for Russell Hayward ! I started on computers back
when I was 10 years old and have been going strong ever since. One of my
biggest complaints about programming was running out of memory. I told
Russell I will not leave QBasic 4.5 unless he can provide and prove 4
things: 1) An Editor equal to or better than QBasic 2) An easy way to play
both .MID and .WAV files in the background 3) WindowLock 4) Enough memory to
write decent code. Well, he came through and showed me them all ! My
interests in programming are Games, especially RPGs and RPG Generators,
Screen Teasers, and Graphic Tools. Since I haven't really grown up, I tend
to watch a lot of cartoons, collect Anime & Hentai, and play RPG videogames.
I'm also between dating now so if you're in Fort Worth, TX, are close to my
age of 33, and share similar interests, especially if you're really sexy,
look me up and show me what you know besides computers and games ! :)
Homepage His Web Site You Can Email David Wicker
Roland Walter Roland Walter. One of the premier GFA programmers. Very
knowledgeable in GFA and other programming languages. You can't go wrong
downloading Rolands' programs. Look for them on the GFA16 download page.
Homepage Rolands' Web Site You Can Email Roland Walter
James Schumacher..  Main areas of programming interest. - For now, I'm
focused on creating software for children with learning disabilities using
GFABASIC and FUTUREBASIC. I have one application (Labeling_Tutor) on the
market (for both PC and Macintosh) and plan to create several others. On the
side (to pay the mortgage), I'm also doing some work in ACCESS and SQL7
(which I started learning earlier this year). After working as an engineer
for nearly 20 years, I'm trying to start a software business. My motivation
in initially working on software for learning disabilities is that my son
has Autism. ContactJames Schumacher
Patrik Battig..  Proficient In Both GFA-BASIC and C: Programming. Very
Helpful To Me In Converting Windows API C Code To Gfa For The GFAWHELP File
ContactPatrik Battig
Alan
Lennon
Belfast...  I work for a Shorts Missile Systems in Belfast, Northern
Ireland. I've used the DOS version of GFA Basic to write several commercial
programs for data logging and analysis of data from our fire control
systems. Programs I have written are in use with the British army, DND
Canada (been there quite often on support work) and soon the US DOD. I use
assembler to write the speed critical sections and GFA for the _pretty_
bits. I'm in the process of updating the DOS programs to Windows and writing
a program for my own use to control a scanning radio via RS232. I'm also a
radio ham, call sign GI4MUN Or You Can Email Alan Lennon
Bob
Springett
Pommerit le Vicomte nr Guingamp in Brittany..  I still do a bit of
programming in GFA' I am a retired paint chemist , and ex owner of a company
specializing in corrosion prevention and cure,not a professional programmer.
You Can Email Bob Springett
Paul.
Carter
Maine.  I don't really specialize in anything. I used to write a lot on the
Atari. My Interest is educational games and simple graphics animation. GFA
on the pc is new to me. I'm still learning but I'm coming around. I'm not
currently writing anything, Just playing. Testing some procedures. You Can
Email P.Carter
Bernard.
Rosenkrnzer
Tawern..  Basically everything sort of program (mostly small utilities for
my personal use). Programming platforms (best one first): Unix, NT, Win95,
Win 3.x, DOS, Atari ST (As far as GFA is concerned, that is Win32, Win, DOS,
ST) Other programming languages: C, C++, Java, Pascal, bash.None of the www
servers I'm running at the moment is directly related to GFA-Basic, this
will, however, change. Current occupations: Studying CS, Running an ISP,
Building/Repairing/Selling computers Interests: Lots of stuff, most
important: Computers, Star Trek, Video editing
(http://www.bero-online.ml.org/gfabasic is under construction). You Can
Email Bernhard Rosenkrnzer
Ingmar
Brunken
Nideggen..  Graphics/Multimedia, Arti.ficial intelligence,
Science/Statistics Program examples: Look for "Spiridon" and "3Draw", for
example in Albert's Ambry Shareware Site.    I am married, 2 children, 1
dog. I am 32 and GFA programmer since Atari ST came up. Private secrets?
Pssst!  Visit His Web Page 3DRAW Program You Can Email Ingmar Brunken

Hannu
Pohjanheimo
Jyvaskyla...  General Windows utilities, WinSplit (wsplit13.zip), WinMerge
(wmerge11.zip) No general interest, usually small apps to solve some work .
You Can Email Hannu Pohjanheimo

Mr. Jean-Marie Joseph
Melanson
Dieppe NB...  Hobby programming, game programming, stepper motor control,
arts &  graphics, 3d  rendering with POVRAY...Married, three grown up
children. Graduated Computer Engineering Technology (1986) NBCC Moncton. You
Can Visit His Web Site You Can Email Mr. Melanson
Bill
Farmer
Rockville, Maryland...  Retired USN submariner, communicator, and
beltway-bandit. First introduced to GFA (Atari) back in 1988, and strictly
self taught. My specific interests include PC instrument and receiver
control as well as any and all DSP signal analysis functions using sound
cards. W3CSW You Can Email Bill Farmer
David
(Call Me Dave) Barton
Hobart, Tasmania..  Main area of programming: Windows / DOS and several
specialized proprietary Micro Controller systems. Whenever possible I prefer
to use GFA (both Windows & DOS) but for some projects I have to work in
C/C++ or Assembler.Programming Interest: Mainly "Real-World" Interfacing,
which covers a wide spectrum of subjects, including industrial control and
robotics, scientific and medical data collection / monitoring and analysis,
remote data communications via radio and modem links. Much of the data
collected and / or transmitted to these systems is linked to and manipulated
by a DBMS. Most require fairly smart "Real-Time" graphics for operator
displays and controls. Born in London. Married to a terrific lady from
Seattle. Have been working in Australia for past eight years. Started
playing about with electronics and computing about the same time as Bill
Gates, but didn't make quite as much money as he did. You Can Email Dave
Barton
Randy
Walker
Titusville, Florida.. . My special programming interest is in itself
relatively simply. Mostly I write to track & annalize the Florida Lotto.  My
biggest project was a word processor for the AtariST years ago - never
released. I have been on a Windows machine for several years, Windows95
about a year: I like my programs to be stand alone self-contained, mostly of
a personal utility nature You Can Email Randy Walker
Jens
Wachholz
Hamburg..  Jens says he programs whatever customers need. You Can Email Jens
Wachholz
Johannes
Kaiser-Kaplaner
St.Jakob..  My programming interests are: writing music-software for the
school - for children. For example: a Melody-Quiz, Rhythm-Trainer,
Composers-Quiz (only in German!). Music Memory-Game (also in English)...in
GFA-Basic for Windows You can find these programs on my homepage...  His
Great Web Site You Can Email Johannes Kaiser-Kaplaner
Hans
Ficker
Elversberg, Saar...  My main programming interests is writing Software for
Ham Radio in GFA-Basic for Windows. You can visit his home page at His Web
Site You Can Email Hans Ficker
Hans
Tornqvist
Enebyberg..  Macintosh programming in Future Basic POS applications. The
name of the program is "MauPassant". Now I want to port my Macintosh POS
program to Windows. I have made some simple printer utilities for Windows
with GFA and ASCII converter programs....Visit  His Web Site You Can Email
Hans Tornqvist
Guenther
Neumann Straubing..  Programs in GFA for windows v. 4.38 for the school,
exercises special for German language. Program language is only German! Auf
meiner Web site sind Demos ladbar: HYPERION, ein Hypertext-Generator NORA,
ein bungsprogramm zur Rechtschreibreform KORREKT, Erstellung von
Korrekturbemerkungen fr Deutsch-Aufstze Auerdem erarbeite ich
Handreichungen fr Lehrer, die den Computer im Unterricht einsetzen
wollen.....Visit  His Web Site You Can Email Guenther Neumann
Marc
Pelletier
Montreal..  Programming interest: Pascal, assembler and GFA Basic. I
developed 3 applications under GFA: A mathematical functions plotter, with
numerical integration and derivation; a LOGO language (yes a LOGO
interpreter written in GFA basic !) and a program useful for teachers, for
grades/averages calculations. Those three applications were developed under
GFA for ATARI but I rewrote the math plotter and the teacher help one for
Windows.....Visit  His Web SiteMarcs Pelletier( Web page in French)
Hendrik
Ohldag
Heinrich Heine Universitaet Duesseldorf..  I'm a Ph.D. student in physics.
We use A-Basic for any kind of data aqusition and data processing programs
or for modeling systems. .Visit  His Web Site You Can Email Hendrik Ohldag
Larry
Nolan
Topsail, Newfoundland.. A1B 4J6  Software development: THE FUN
STUFF:Multimedia Development - Customized Touch Screen Kiosks, mainly in
Environmental Interpretation centers. THE BREAD AND BUTTER STUFF:Scientific
programming - My back ground is in Geographic Information Systems and Data
analysis. You Can Email Larry Nolan
Keith
Walmsley
University of Central Lancashire...  Psychology Technician and not very good
GFA programmer. Mainly programs for cognitive labs, data collection,
reduction and hardware drivers for odd bits of lab equipment. Eye Tracking
tasks, hand-eye coordination and such. Have written stuff for Atari,Mac and
PC in Fast Basic, Quick Basic Gfa for Dos, Gfa Windows. Consider your help
file to be heaven sent,could not manage without it. Don't know enough myself
to be of much help to anyone but always glad to hear from people. You Can
Email Keith Walmsley
Ulrich
Westphal Freiburg..  Programming in GFA since 5 Years. Interests Programming
for scientific Purposes : Graphics, Data Conversion, Image Conversion,
Networking. Albert-Ludwigs-Universitaet Freiburg Institut fuer
Makromolekulare Chemie You Can Email Ulrich Westphal
Jan
Schnemann Svendborg..  I started programming in GFA on Atari - an
Music/Ear-training program.Then I developed a Program for controlling the
lights in Theaters and shows.I converted it to GFA for Dos, because it was a
great thing to run on Laptop computers. I am interested in Animation too.
GFA for Windows is fairly new to me....Visit  His Web Site You Can Email Jan
Schonemann
Pat
Bullman
Murwillumbah, NSW...  My programming interests with GFA lie mainly the
development of financial reporting systems and small specialized
accounting/invoicing systems. I've also developed many small DLL's with GFA
which have been used to link old style mainframe database data to Excel
spreadsheets. By way of background, I started using GFA-WIN about 4 years
ago when I found that the then current Visual Basic just couldn't meet my
needs or was just to slow. GFA-WIN is great, particularly how you can use it
in either a "C" or "GFA" style. You Can Email Pat Bullman
Ren
Fritzsche Boos..  I have been programming with GFA BASIC since 1988 on the
ATARI ST and since 1993 on the PC under WFW 3.11 and now under Windows 95.
At the moment Im programming Software for our business. I am 26 years old
and not married. You Can Email Ren Fritzsche
Tom
Wilkinson
Beamsville, Ontario...  Strictly use GFA Windows and GFA DOS for fun
purposes, having written some math quiz type games for my five kids. I am
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> IF EXIST(folder$+"\NUL")
> 
> NUL is not a existing File, but it is easy and
> works.

Gunnar, that's a neat trick !  But don't try it
in immediate mode to test it (F4), it crashes GFA
every time !  :)

if exist("backups\nul") print"exists!"
^ Don't try this in immediate mode !

Sincerely,
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
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Wow, Tom..
You coulda just left the URL address !  :)

Tom asked me a question and although I can answer
it, it's not a very good answer.

His question:
  How do you play RealAudio files in GFABasic ?

My technique:

SHELL "C:\progra~1\real\realpl~1\realplay.exe
watrwitc.ra"

The problem with my technique tho is it opens up a
nasty blue box showing that WaterWitch is playing
and I don't know how to close it.

Does anyone out there know how you can play a
RealAudio file in the background invisibly, possibly
with the technique also of closing it ?

I think it can be done using MCI$, but I'm not
certain..

Sincerely,
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> List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Well, I sent it in here before but I guess it was
> too big.  38k ?
> 
> You can get yours right ? here !  :)
> 
> http://www.geocities.com/dw817/gfabasic/bit8to7.zip
> 
> Dale, I think it's 1.5x faster, but can you check
> please ?  If it's actually 2x faster, please show
> make it as that and put over other Bit8To7.
> 
> Thanks !
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--- John Findlay <John.Findlay@Byte-it.net> wrote:
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> <John.Findlay@Byte-it.net> wrote:
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> It's good to see some well-deserved praise
> for GFA Basic from David Wicker. (A new comer)
> 
> John
> 

Well Thanks John !  What's really amazing about this
is I never gave permission to use it in GFA !

It's straight text out of my homepage !

Yah you bet Dale, you're in real trouble.
Ask next time.  :)

Bit8To7 is also not the first program I wrote.
Bit8To7 is one dearly desired hacker's tool I wanted
to
encode and encrypt external binaries into sourcecode,
not for absolute beginners, but a snazzy way to
include binary data as one source code since I'm so
set against using any external data files that can be
tweaked by others (my paranoia speaking loudly here!)
:)

If any of you out there know of a program for Windows
that can crunch the .EXE of a compiled GFA program,
and in fact, does crunch it down better than 25% of
its original size, I would like to know please as I'm
still uncomfortable about putting out a non-compacted
.EXE for my other ventures.

If you know of any .EXE cruncher,
please let me know !  Thanks !

Crystal Waves isn't even the first, but that would
be okay to use as a first major program I had
written, and there's enough comments in Crystal Waves
for real beginners.

Sincerely,
David W.

Yah I know I need to clean up my homepage MEGA,
so it is nice that what I wrote got used anyways !
Gredit is still getting worked on and I'm not doing
my homepage over until I get it done first.
:)
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi Dale:

I was checking out Russell Hayward's homepage and he
has a lot of good stuff in there too about GFABasic
and how to use it.  He might would like for you to
include some of his stuff too, as, in many ways, he
is explaining GFA at a deeper and more understanding
level.

If you want to get the whole story on my page, here
is the rest of it on GFABasic:

http://www.geocities.com/dw817/gfabasic/download.htm

That's all from here !  Gonna take a bit o' nap
and hook in color next to GREDIT, right now, it's
B&W only but the pixels are sharp !  Living in a
world of 320x200 pixels you never realize the kind of
detail you can draw pictures in 640x480 !  :)

Char8 is rapidly getting finished too, being part of
Gredit, sourcecode for Char8 will be released tho.

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member "Russell Hayward" <russ@softhome.net> wrote:
Hi David,

> If any of you out there know of a program for Windows
> that can crunch the .EXE of a compiled GFA program,
> and in fact, does crunch it down better than 25% of
> its original size, I would like to know please as I'm
> still uncomfortable about putting out a non-compacted
> .EXE for my other ventures.

This link was sent to the GB32 list the other day by Roland Walter, I
haven't tried it yet but it looks great:

http://wildsau.idv.uni-linz.ac.at/mfx/upx.html

HTH,
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Russell Hayward wrote:

> List Member "Russell Hayward" <russ@softhome.net> wrote:
> Hi David,
>
> > If any of you out there know of a program for Windows
> > that can crunch the .EXE of a compiled GFA program,
> > and in fact, does crunch it down better than 25% of
> > its original size, I would like to know please as I'm
> > still uncomfortable about putting out a non-compacted
> > .EXE for my other ventures.
>
> This link was sent to the GB32 list the other day by Roland Walter, I
> haven't tried it yet but it looks great:
>
> http://wildsau.idv.uni-linz.ac.at/mfx/upx.html
>
> HTH,
> Russell Hayward
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:


--- Russell Hayward <russ@softhome.net> wrote:
> List Member "Russell Hayward" <russ@softhome.net>
> wrote:
> Hi David,
> 
> > If any of you out there know of a program for
> Windows
> > that can crunch the .EXE of a compiled GFA
> program,
> > and in fact, does crunch it down better than 25%
> of
> > its original size, I would like to know please as
> I'm
> > still uncomfortable about putting out a
> non-compacted
> > .EXE for my other ventures.
> 
> This link was sent to the GB32 list the other day by
> Roland Walter, I
> haven't tried it yet but it looks great:
> 
> http://wildsau.idv.uni-linz.ac.at/mfx/upx.html

Greets Russell:
It doesn't work..

E:\gfabasic\compress\chek>upx -1 windchim.exe
                     Ultimate Packer for eXecutables
               Copyright (C) 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999,
2000
UPX v0.99.2      Markus F.X.J. Oberhumer & Laszlo
Molnar         Mar 2nd 2000

        File size        Ratio      Format      Name
   -------------------   ------   -----------  
-----------
upx: windchim.exe: CantPackException: can't pack
new-exe

Packed 0 files.

E:\gfabasic\compress\chek>

I've gone thru 5 other .EXE compressors besides this
one with similar results.

Is a .GFA executable a very strange creature indeed ?

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member Pat Bullman <pbullman@norex.com.au> wrote:
David,

Maybe the problem here is because the 'evaluation' copy you have does NOT
produce a true .exe file.  The .exe file produced needs a runtime library
to function and if you want to distribute your program you would also need
to distribute the runtime library (that's why the .exe is so small).  The
smallest .exe file my compiler/linker will produce is about 15k.

Pat

>
>E:\gfabasic\compress\chek>upx -1 windchim.exe
>                     Ultimate Packer for eXecutables
>               Copyright (C) 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999,
>2000
>UPX v0.99.2      Markus F.X.J. Oberhumer & Laszlo
>Molnar         Mar 2nd 2000
>
>        File size        Ratio      Format      Name
>   -------------------   ------   -----------  
>-----------
>upx: windchim.exe: CantPackException: can't pack
>new-exe
>
>Packed 0 files.
>
>E:\gfabasic\compress\chek>
>
>I've gone thru 5 other .EXE compressors besides this
>one with similar results.
>
>Is a .GFA executable a very strange creature indeed ?
>
>Sincerely,
>David W.


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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Am not exactly familiar w/ this, but an not w/o experience, either.
For some reason, GFA-W(16) *.exes don't appear to survive the ordeal.

I don't know how to prevent rev-engineering, altho theoretically, it
is possible.  I DO know how one can prevent copying something to another
computer, thereby getting around the registration process.  *This* is
involved, but rather simple.  When an appl is installed, it can quite 
simply "patch" an entry inside itself.  This entry would carry a generic
drive name or label.  The patch would simply insert the label of the drive
on which it was installed in place of the generic name.  One more entry
in this system designating registered or not might control what happens if
the appl is copied to another HD... if registered & copied, another self
patch action can totally disable the appl or revert it to the NON-registered
version.  I found that I can actually cause, on certain conditions, a complete
& total deletion of the appl.  Meet the conditions set up within, & it is NO 
longer even on the 2nd HD!

Playing w/ this idea, I think I've completely redefined "time bomb" protection.
Imagine someone's complete shock & surprise to discover that something stolen
has disappeared completely!  Complete elimination of having hidden folders or
files, disquised registry entries, odd-named *.inis, etc.  This borders on the
use of virus crap, but is self-protection.

As many know from time past, I've played w/ BO & several others of that ilk.
McAfee discovered that stuff on a ZIP100 disk & prevented me from playing
with it again.  McAfee hasn't prevented me from mucquing w/ my own *.exes.

Back in my Z80A days, patching was common as all hell.  There seemed to be no
other *real* way to accomplish a ton of things.  I lost track of how many of
them I had to do.  I think McAfee doesn't say anything because it is my *.exe
that is doing it's own patching.  I would suppose that much the same thing could
be accomplished by building traps into various routines & simply bypassing the
involved functions or procedures if conditions were (or were NOT) met at
runtime.

I really like the idea that I can remove a file or an entire appl at will if
someone tries to get around paying me the dollar or two I ask.

Now... the pills are taking effect, so I'm going to put my neck & throat at
rest for a spell.  There are 11 gold-colored staples running across my throat,
just below my larnyx.  I'm starting to think I'll have'em replaced w/ some
that have tiny jewels mounted in them.

Why the hell couldn't I have become involved w/ programming when I was young
& semi-whole?  Success is exhilerating.  Failure is a dismal kick in the teeth!
<G>
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> Maybe the problem here is because the 'evaluation'
> copy you have does NOT
> produce a true .exe file.  The .exe file produced
> needs a runtime library
> to function and if you want to distribute your
> program you would also need
> to distribute the runtime library (that's why the
> .exe is so small).  The
> smallest .exe file my compiler/linker will produce
> is about 15k.

Greets Pat:

No, I don't think that's it, because QBasic 4.5
had the same situation, you create a .EXE that is
3-4k or so and it requires the file BRUN45.EXE in
order to run correctly.  I got .EXEs up to 12k
or so and could effectively run .EXE compressors
as old as PKLITE or the more advanced WWPack and
it would compress quite effectively.

Example QBasic program, Kaleidoscope:

KALEI.EXE 6816 bytes uncompressed and
compiled requiring the BRUN45.EXE runtime library

WWPACK compresses original KALEI.EXE down to
4539 bytes, a 33% savings

PKZIP compresses original KALEI.EXE down to
4420 bytes, a 36% savings

PKZIPPING the WWPACK packed KALEI.EXE changes it
from 4539 bytes to 4631 bytes, a negative saving
showing absolute and complete correct compression.

Try this example:

OPENW 1,_X\2-200,_Y\2-150,400,300,0
PRINT "(C)2000+ David A. Wicker"
DELAY 5
CLOSEW 1

[this example is enclosed below]

Save it as "copyrite.GFW"

That's it, make it into a .EXE.
It should be 1408 bytes.

Now we're going to binary patch it to show
something else.

In DOS, type out:

EDIT /64 copyrite.EXE

Go down to line 9, column 46, there is a track
cursor bar at the bottom to show where you are at.

The cursor should be sitting directly on top of
the character "D" for David A. Wicker

Tap [INS] once to enter overwrite mode and type out
Fred Flintstone

Do a (F)ile E(x)it and hit [ENTER] to answer
YES to the next question.  Now run the .EXE either
in DOS or under Windows.

You see the difficulty without crunching .EXEs ?
And no, I'm not Fred Flintstone.  :)

Any program that is compiled with GFA apparently
leaves strings and other variables untouched and
uncompressed which invites hacks and mods.

I'm not so much interested in saving space as
protecting my work, especially productive work.

Saving space too would be nice tho !

Pat, they can be compressed because PKZIP compresses
them.  Now, if PKZIP couldn't compress them, say
it came back with 1% or 0% savings, then I could
understand a .EXE cruncher not working.  WWPack
won't crunch a .ZIP file very well.  But for the
mere fact that a GFA .EXE file can be PKZIPPED down
further than its initial GFA .EXE size proves that
it can be.

3 Example GFA programs:

MIDI&WAV.EXE
original size 6912 bytes
PKZip size 2751 bytes (61% savings)

CHAR8.EXE
original size 7840 bytes
PKZip size 3033 bytes (62% savings)

WINDCHIM.EXE
original size 34560 bytes
PKZIP size 24843 bytes (29% savings)
Note: It is possible my Bit8To7 routines in addition
to the data files created with it do not crunch very
well with PKZIP because of their complexity.

In these three examples, a savings can most
definitely be seen.  Like it or lump it, it
shows that when GFA creates an executable, it
is inefficient and not as well made as it could
have been.

If they are using a scheme to prevent a GFA .EXE
from being crunched, they are only hurting
themselves, especially for someone evaluating
the direct use applications and its advantages
for future software development.

["copyrite" example program has been enclosed
  as a binary attachment]

Sincerely,
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List Member Vogel Michael <vo@schoeller.at> wrote:
Hi,
compressing (GFA-16 exes with pklite) works fine, except two things...
1) changing icons within minimized windows is not possible (I have no idea
why)
2) complex linked resource files (especially with high color bitmaps, but
there is no rule) leads to GDI errors (it's an try and error game)

Michael 

By the way, are there other any free (or shareware) (16-Bit)-Exe-cruncher
available ?

> ----------
> Von: 	David Wicker[SMTP:dw817@yahoo.com]
> Gesendet: 	Di, 07. Mrz 2000 01:03
> An: 	gfabasic@gfa.net
> Betreff: 	[gfabasic] Compressing GFA Executables
> 
> List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> --- Russell Hayward <russ@softhome.net> wrote:
> > List Member "Russell Hayward" <russ@softhome.net>
> > wrote:
> > Hi David,
> > 
> > > If any of you out there know of a program for
> > Windows
> > > that can crunch the .EXE of a compiled GFA
> > program,
> > > and in fact, does crunch it down better than 25%
> > of
> > > its original size, I would like to know please as
> > I'm
> > > still uncomfortable about putting out a
> > non-compacted
> > > .EXE for my other ventures.
> > 
> > This link was sent to the GB32 list the other day by
> > Roland Walter, I
> > haven't tried it yet but it looks great:
> > 
> > http://wildsau.idv.uni-linz.ac.at/mfx/upx.html
> 
> Greets Russell:
> It doesn't work..
> 
> E:\gfabasic\compress\chek>upx -1 windchim.exe
>                      Ultimate Packer for eXecutables
>                Copyright (C) 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999,
> 2000
> UPX v0.99.2      Markus F.X.J. Oberhumer & Laszlo
> Molnar         Mar 2nd 2000
> 
>         File size        Ratio      Format      Name
>    -------------------   ------   -----------  
> -----------
> upx: windchim.exe: CantPackException: can't pack
> new-exe
> 
> Packed 0 files.
> 
> E:\gfabasic\compress\chek>
> 
> I've gone thru 5 other .EXE compressors besides this
> one with similar results.
> 
> Is a .GFA executable a very strange creature indeed ?
> 
> Sincerely,
> David W.
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Greets Tom:

I just got thru sending a long reply to this when
YAHOO Email error raised its ugly head.  (SIGH)
Complete reply lost.

Briefly, I've written very effective tools and
techniques for registration purposes but I'm not
entirely convinced it works in today's times.

As for the failures you mentioned below,
most of the failures we create inside ourselves
and the victories can only be won to us by others
acknowledging them to ourselves first.  :)

Sincerely,
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> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Am not exactly familiar w/ this, but an not w/o
> experience, either.
> For some reason, GFA-W(16) *.exes don't appear to
> survive the ordeal.
> 
> I don't know how to prevent rev-engineering, altho
> theoretically, it
> is possible.  I DO know how one can prevent copying
> something to another
> computer, thereby getting around the registration
> process.  *This* is
> involved, but rather simple.  When an appl is
> installed, it can quite 
> simply "patch" an entry inside itself.  This entry
> would carry a generic
> drive name or label.  The patch would simply insert
> the label of the drive
> on which it was installed in place of the generic
> name.  One more entry
> in this system designating registered or not might
> control what happens if
> the appl is copied to another HD... if registered &
> copied, another self
> patch action can totally disable the appl or revert
> it to the NON-registered
> version.  I found that I can actually cause, on
> certain conditions, a complete
> & total deletion of the appl.  Meet the conditions
> set up within, & it is NO 
> longer even on the 2nd HD!
> 
> Playing w/ this idea, I think I've completely
> redefined "time bomb" protection.
> Imagine someone's complete shock & surprise to
> discover that something stolen
> has disappeared completely!  Complete elimination of
> having hidden folders or
> files, disquised registry entries, odd-named *.inis,
> etc.  This borders on the
> use of virus crap, but is self-protection.
> 
> As many know from time past, I've played w/ BO &
> several others of that ilk.
> McAfee discovered that stuff on a ZIP100 disk &
> prevented me from playing
> with it again.  McAfee hasn't prevented me from
> mucquing w/ my own *.exes.
> 
> Back in my Z80A days, patching was common as all
> hell.  There seemed to be no
> other *real* way to accomplish a ton of things.  I
> lost track of how many of
> them I had to do.  I think McAfee doesn't say
> anything because it is my *.exe
> that is doing it's own patching.  I would suppose
> that much the same thing could
> be accomplished by building traps into various
> routines & simply bypassing the
> involved functions or procedures if conditions were
> (or were NOT) met at
> runtime.
> 
> I really like the idea that I can remove a file or
> an entire appl at will if
> someone tries to get around paying me the dollar or
> two I ask.
> 
> Now... the pills are taking effect, so I'm going to
> put my neck & throat at
> rest for a spell.  There are 11 gold-colored staples
> running across my throat,
> just below my larnyx.  I'm starting to think I'll
> have'em replaced w/ some
> that have tiny jewels mounted in them.
> 
> Why the hell couldn't I have become involved w/
> programming when I was young
> & semi-whole?  Success is exhilerating.  Failure is
> a dismal kick in the teeth!
> <G>
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--- Vogel Michael <vo@schoeller.at> wrote:
> List Member Vogel Michael <vo@schoeller.at> wrote:
> Hi,
> compressing (GFA-16 exes with pklite) works fine,
> except two things...
> 1) changing icons within minimized windows is not
> possible (I have no idea
> why)
> 2) complex linked resource files (especially with
> high color bitmaps, but
> there is no rule) leads to GDI errors (it's an try
> and error game)
> 
> Michael 

Greets Michael:

Could you please send a copy or list the URL address
where you received your copy of the PKLITE you are
using and (yes I am a complete idiot at times) :)
really easy instructions on how to crunch a .EXE
somehow avoiding using icon files (I'm trying to
understand this), that prohibit the entire task ?

Sincerely,
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--- Tom Record
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> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Am not exactly familiar w/ this, but an not w/o
> experience, either.
> For some reason, GFA-W(16) *.exes don't appear to
> survive the ordeal.

Survive... ?  I haven't gotten far enough for a
single .EXE compressor to recognize it as a valid
.EXE.

> 
> I don't know how to prevent rev-engineering, altho
> theoretically, it
> is possible.  I DO know how one can prevent copying
> something to another
> computer, thereby getting around the registration
> process.  *This* is
> involved, but rather simple.  When an appl is
> installed, it can quite 
> simply "patch" an entry inside itself.  This entry
> would carry a generic
> drive name or label.  The patch would simply insert
> the label of the drive
> on which it was installed in place of the generic
> name.  One more entry
> in this system designating registered or not might
> control what happens if
> the appl is copied to another HD... if registered &
> copied, another self
> patch action can totally disable the appl or revert
> it to the NON-registered
> version.  I found that I can actually cause, on
> certain conditions, a complete
> & total deletion of the appl.  Meet the conditions
> set up within, & it is NO 
> longer even on the 2nd HD!

Writing registration techniques, I've done quite a
bit.  I go so far as to read the record ID inside
the computer and create a random file in a random
location on the computer hidden, read only, system,
and encrypted.  Yah I'm nutzy I know.  :)

In any case, I'm not shooting for this anymore,
just protecting my name and such in programs I
write.

> 
> Playing w/ this idea, I think I've completely
> redefined "time bomb" protection.
> Imagine someone's complete shock & surprise to
> discover that something stolen
> has disappeared completely!  Complete elimination of
> having hidden folders or
> files, disquised registry entries, odd-named *.inis,
> etc.  This borders on the
> use of virus crap, but is self-protection.

It's a mess.  I don't want to go thru all that again
like I did years ago.  I did and it worked and I had
hackers hate my guts really serious but I protected
my works with it.
> 
> As many know from time past, I've played w/ BO &
> several others of that ilk.
> McAfee discovered that stuff on a ZIP100 disk &
> prevented me from playing
> with it again.  McAfee hasn't prevented me from
> mucquing w/ my own *.exes.

McAfee is a virus scanner ?  I haven't written or
used any viruses.  Too volatile, and I've heard too
many bad stories about them.

> 
> Back in my Z80A days, patching was common as all
> hell.  There seemed to be no
> other *real* way to accomplish a ton of things.  I
> lost track of how many of
> them I had to do.  I think McAfee doesn't say
> anything because it is my *.exe
> that is doing it's own patching.  I would suppose
> that much the same thing could
> be accomplished by building traps into various
> routines & simply bypassing the
> involved functions or procedures if conditions were
> (or were NOT) met at
> runtime.

It's curious, most registration limited-day software
doesn't make very simple checks to see that the clock
has not been circumvented.

> 
> I really like the idea that I can remove a file or
> an entire appl at will if
> someone tries to get around paying me the dollar or
> two I ask.

I'm not out for the money.  I know I should be, but
I'm looped in the head thinking money is evil and all.
Yah I'm going thru therapy on it.  :)

> 
> Now... the pills are taking effect, so I'm going to
> put my neck & throat at
> rest for a spell.  There are 11 gold-colored staples
> running across my throat,
> just below my larnyx.  I'm starting to think I'll
> have'em replaced w/ some
> that have tiny jewels mounted in them.

Hey ! You never did explain what happened !
> 
> Why the hell couldn't I have become involved w/
> programming when I was young
> & semi-whole?  Success is exhilerating.  Failure is
> a dismal kick in the teeth!
> <G>
> TomR.

Most of the failures we create inside ourselves and
the victories can only be won to ourselves by others
acknowledging them to us first.  :)

Yah it's 1:35am here and I'm playing some
Lunar on the playstation answering this late nite
Email.

Sincerely,
David W.
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Pat
*I* have the "Pro"... the full GFA-W(16), & have tried resetting most of the
compiler instructions at one time or another.  15K *is* just about the smallest
I can get, but... running somebody else's cruncher on ANY of my *.exes seems
to hit a snag somewhere & renders'em useless.  I really don't have a real feel
for what these crunchers do, but... I am guessing that something about how
GFA-W(16) *.exes are set up just doesn't support the idea.  I've messed w/
some *other* *.exes & not had any trouble, but GFA's....
<G>
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At 04:01 PM 07/03/00 +1100, you wrote:
>List Member Pat Bullman <pbullman@norex.com.au> wrote:
>David,
>
>Maybe the problem here is because the 'evaluation' copy you have does NOT
>produce a true .exe file.  The .exe file produced needs a runtime library
>to function and if you want to distribute your program you would also need
>to distribute the runtime library (that's why the .exe is so small).  The
>smallest .exe file my compiler/linker will produce is about 15k.
>
>Pat
>
>>
>>E:\gfabasic\compress\chek>upx -1 windchim.exe
>>                     Ultimate Packer for eXecutables
>>               Copyright (C) 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999,
>>2000
>>UPX v0.99.2      Markus F.X.J. Oberhumer & Laszlo
>>Molnar         Mar 2nd 2000
>>
>>        File size        Ratio      Format      Name
>>   -------------------   ------   -----------  
>>-----------
>>upx: windchim.exe: CantPackException: can't pack
>>new-exe
>>
>>Packed 0 files.
>>
>>E:\gfabasic\compress\chek>
>>
>>I've gone thru 5 other .EXE compressors besides this
>>one with similar results.
>>
>>Is a .GFA executable a very strange creature indeed ?
>>
>>Sincerely,
>>David W.
>
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>McAfee is a virus scanner ?  I haven't written or
>used any viruses.  Too volatile, and I've heard too
>many bad stories about them.
>

Yep, Davie... 'at's what McAfee is.

>
>
>Hey ! You never did explain what happened !
>> 

Bone spurs digging into my spinal cord ruptured a disk & were closing in
around the nerves to my hands.  Was aggravated by gettin run over by a 40
mph car 3 yrs ago.  Doc went in from the front to fix it.

>
>
>Yah it's 1:35am here and I'm playing some
>Lunar on the playstation answering this late nite
>Email.
>

So... where you?  Me, NE Okla - Tulsa.1:52 here, now.

<G>
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--- Tom Record
<tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Pat
> *I* have the "Pro"... the full GFA-W(16), & have
> tried resetting most of the
> compiler instructions at one time or another.  15K
> *is* just about the smallest
> I can get, but... running somebody else's cruncher
> on ANY of my *.exes seems
> to hit a snag somewhere & renders'em useless.  I
> really don't have a real feel
> for what these crunchers do, but... I am guessing
> that something about how
> GFA-W(16) *.exes are set up just doesn't support the
> idea.  I've messed w/
> some *other* *.exes & not had any trouble, but
> GFA's....
> <G>
> TomR.

Greets Tom:
Thanks for backing me up on this !  :)

I hadda feeling the lack of being able to crunch
a .EXE carried over to the compiler as well and
I see now it has.  Okay, well I've had in mind
a project program I could write that runs .EXE
from inside password protected PKZIP files just
in case it turns out (as it has) that GFA doesn't
allow crunching .EXEs.  The passwords to the PKZIPs ?
Very complex and based entirely on the filename you
are extracting and where you are going to use it.
Final results are one very compact .ZXE file that
runs only when you tell it to and very doubtful
anyone is going to guess the 32-character 7-bit
password generated from several hundred instances
of the file itself, its filename, length,
data arrangement, checksum, and opening headers.  :)

Whatta mess but how else are we to cover our bits ?

Sincerely,
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List Member Vogel Michael <vo@schoeller.at> wrote:
Pklite is available under...
ftp://ftp.pkware.com/pklts201.exe

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Ok... 'fess-up time!  You want to compress an *.exe to prohibit 
someone messing with it, & have it run... right?  How the world 
are you proposing to do this w/ PKLite?  That would make a *.zip 
of it, but I don't believe it would run until unzipped.

The "crunchers" I've played with leave it an *.exe, but smaller
as a file.  I can make a *.zip an executable, but all it is is 
a self-extracting archive, NOT a functional program, until extracted.

Enlighten me, please.
<G>
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>
>--- Tom Record
><tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> List Member Tom Record
>> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> Pat
>> *I* have the "Pro"... the full GFA-W(16), & have
>> tried resetting most of the
>> compiler instructions at one time or another.  15K
>> *is* just about the smallest
>> I can get, but... running somebody else's cruncher
>> on ANY of my *.exes seems
>> to hit a snag somewhere & renders'em useless.  I
>> really don't have a real feel
>> for what these crunchers do, but... I am guessing
>> that something about how
>> GFA-W(16) *.exes are set up just doesn't support the
>> idea.  I've messed w/
>> some *other* *.exes & not had any trouble, but
>> GFA's....
>> <G>
>> TomR.
>
>Greets Tom:
>Thanks for backing me up on this !  :)
>
>I hadda feeling the lack of being able to crunch
>a .EXE carried over to the compiler as well and
>I see now it has.  Okay, well I've had in mind
>a project program I could write that runs .EXE
>from inside password protected PKZIP files just
>in case it turns out (as it has) that GFA doesn't
>allow crunching .EXEs.  The passwords to the PKZIPs ?
>Very complex and based entirely on the filename you
>are extracting and where you are going to use it.
>Final results are one very compact .ZXE file that
>runs only when you tell it to and very doubtful
>anyone is going to guess the 32-character 7-bit
>password generated from several hundred instances
>of the file itself, its filename, length,
>data arrangement, checksum, and opening headers.  :)
>
>Whatta mess but how else are we to cover our bits ?
>
>Sincerely,
>David W.
>
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List Member Vogel Michael <vo@schoeller.at> wrote:
Oh god, 

  PKZIP will do a *.zip file
  PKLITE will compress *.com and *.exe files

Just try it, 
   you'll see the difference !

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> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Ok... 'fess-up time!  You want to compress an *.exe to prohibit 
> someone messing with it, & have it run... right?  How the world 
> are you proposing to do this w/ PKLite?  That would make a *.zip 
> of it, but I don't believe it would run until unzipped.
> 
> The "crunchers" I've played with leave it an *.exe, but smaller
> as a file.  I can make a *.zip an executable, but all it is is 
> a self-extracting archive, NOT a functional program, until extracted.
> 
> Enlighten me, please.
> <G>
> TomR.
> 
> 
> 
> At 12:31 AM 07/03/00 -0800, you wrote:
> >List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >--- Tom Record
> ><tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> >> List Member Tom Record
> >> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> >> Pat
> >> *I* have the "Pro"... the full GFA-W(16), & have
> >> tried resetting most of the
> >> compiler instructions at one time or another.  15K
> >> *is* just about the smallest
> >> I can get, but... running somebody else's cruncher
> >> on ANY of my *.exes seems
> >> to hit a snag somewhere & renders'em useless.  I
> >> really don't have a real feel
> >> for what these crunchers do, but... I am guessing
> >> that something about how
> >> GFA-W(16) *.exes are set up just doesn't support the
> >> idea.  I've messed w/
> >> some *other* *.exes & not had any trouble, but
> >> GFA's....
> >> <G>
> >> TomR.
> >
> >Greets Tom:
> >Thanks for backing me up on this !  :)
> >
> >I hadda feeling the lack of being able to crunch
> >a .EXE carried over to the compiler as well and
> >I see now it has.  Okay, well I've had in mind
> >a project program I could write that runs .EXE
> >from inside password protected PKZIP files just
> >in case it turns out (as it has) that GFA doesn't
> >allow crunching .EXEs.  The passwords to the PKZIPs ?
> >Very complex and based entirely on the filename you
> >are extracting and where you are going to use it.
> >Final results are one very compact .ZXE file that
> >runs only when you tell it to and very doubtful
> >anyone is going to guess the 32-character 7-bit
> >password generated from several hundred instances
> >of the file itself, its filename, length,
> >data arrangement, checksum, and opening headers.  :)
> >
> >Whatta mess but how else are we to cover our bits ?
> >
> >Sincerely,
> >David W.
> >
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List Member Pat Bullman <pbullman@norex.com.au> wrote:
David,

Exactley what are you trying to achieve?  Do you want to protect your files
from being copied, or do you want to protect labels within your program
from being changed?

Pat

>> Pat
>> *I* have the "Pro"... the full GFA-W(16), & have
>> tried resetting most of the
>> compiler instructions at one time or another.  15K
>> *is* just about the smallest
>> I can get, but... running somebody else's cruncher
>> on ANY of my *.exes seems
>> to hit a snag somewhere & renders'em useless.  I
>> really don't have a real feel
>> for what these crunchers do, but... I am guessing
>> that something about how
>> GFA-W(16) *.exes are set up just doesn't support the
>> idea.  I've messed w/
>> some *other* *.exes & not had any trouble, but
>> GFA's....
>> <G>
>> TomR.
>
>Greets Tom:
>Thanks for backing me up on this !  :)
>
>I hadda feeling the lack of being able to crunch
>a .EXE carried over to the compiler as well and
>I see now it has.  Okay, well I've had in mind
>a project program I could write that runs .EXE
>from inside password protected PKZIP files just
>in case it turns out (as it has) that GFA doesn't
>allow crunching .EXEs.  The passwords to the PKZIPs ?
>Very complex and based entirely on the filename you
>are extracting and where you are going to use it.
>Final results are one very compact .ZXE file that
>runs only when you tell it to and very doubtful
>anyone is going to guess the 32-character 7-bit
>password generated from several hundred instances
>of the file itself, its filename, length,
>data arrangement, checksum, and opening headers.  :)
>
>Whatta mess but how else are we to cover our bits ?



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List Member afonsogustavo <afonsogustavo@abordo.com.br> wrote:
Hi,
I have 2 things to say:
1)UPX can pack a number of executable formats: dos/exe,=20
dos/sys, dos/com, djgpp2/coff, watcom/le (supporting
 DOS4G, PMODE/W, DOS32a and CauseWay), win32/pe,=20
rtm32/pe, tmt/adam BUT IT CAN=B4T PACK Windows 16bits NE=20
(New Executables)...
For more details on packing executables go to:
http://mercury.spaceports.com/~quel/protools/packers.htm

2)Everything that runs can be reversed. Even the=20
strongest hardware protection (dongles) can be=20
emulated...

Regards,
Gustavo

PS: David, don=B4t forget to include GFARUN10.DLL (163904=20
bytes) when you distribute your \"interpiled\" GFA=20
executables to non GFA users...


> List Member Pat Bullman <pbullman@norex.com.au> wrote:
> David,
>
> Exactley what are you trying to achieve?  Do you want=20
to protect your files
> from being copied, or do you want to protect labels=20
within your program
> from being changed?
>
> Pat
>
> >> Pat
> >> *I* have the \"Pro\"... the full GFA-W(16), & have
> >> tried resetting most of the
> >> compiler instructions at one time or another.  15K
> >> *is* just about the smallest
> >> I can get, but... running somebody else\'s cruncher
> >> on ANY of my *.exes seems
> >> to hit a snag somewhere & renders\'em useless.  I
> >> really don\'t have a real feel
> >> for what these crunchers do, but... I am guessing
> >> that something about how
> >> GFA-W(16) *.exes are set up just doesn\'t support=20
the
> >> idea.  I\'ve messed w/
> >> some *other* *.exes & not had any trouble, but
> >> GFA\'s....
> >> <G>
> >> TomR.
> >
> >Greets Tom:
> >Thanks for backing me up on this !  :)
> >
> >I hadda feeling the lack of being able to crunch
> >a .EXE carried over to the compiler as well and
> >I see now it has.  Okay, well I\'ve had in mind
> >a project program I could write that runs .EXE
> >from inside password protected PKZIP files just
> >in case it turns out (as it has) that GFA doesn\'t
> >allow crunching .EXEs.  The passwords to the PKZIPs ?
> >Very complex and based entirely on the filename you
> >are extracting and where you are going to use it.
> >Final results are one very compact .ZXE file that
> >runs only when you tell it to and very doubtful
> >anyone is going to guess the 32-character 7-bit
> >password generated from several hundred instances
> >of the file itself, its filename, length,
> >data arrangement, checksum, and opening headers.  :)
> >
> >Whatta mess but how else are we to cover our bits ?
>
>
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:


--- Vogel Michael <vo@schoeller.at> wrote:
> List Member Vogel Michael <vo@schoeller.at> wrote:
> Pklite is available under...
> ftp://ftp.pkware.com/pklts201.exe

Greets Vogel:

Downloaded PKLITE, thanks.
It won't compress GFA .EXE either.
Now it's interesting, it says its a Win32 .EXE
but in fact it's not.

Is there a way to patch a binary file so it thinks
it is Win16 ?  This may allow a GFA .EXE to finally
be crunched.

Sincerely,
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
--- Tom Record
<tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Ok... 'fess-up time!  You want to compress an *.exe
> to prohibit 
> someone messing with it, & have it run... right? 

Okay so far.

> How the world 
> are you proposing to do this w/ PKLite?  That would
> make a *.zip 
> of it, but I don't believe it would run until
> unzipped.

Nono..  PKLite wouldn't compress it either, so it's
going to need PKZip all the way.

PKLite returns:
WINDCHIM.EXE does not use KERNEL

> The "crunchers" I've played with leave it an *.exe,
> but smaller
> as a file.  I can make a *.zip an executable, but
> all it is is 
> a self-extracting archive, NOT a functional program,
> until extracted.

Nono..  Not a .EXE self-extractor.
It would be a PKZIP file that is either one of a few
things.

1) Encrypted Binary, =NO= way to PKUNZIP without
   changing every single byte in the encrypted
   file first

2) Use PKZIP's password protector, 32-char. derived
   from SINQ/COSQ/Filesize/Filename, etc.

3) Or both

I propose to write a program to lock
windows during unpacking and then run it immediately.
The first instructions that program that is run send
is to WIPE (See Unzipper) the .EXE that was run,
then do a PEEKEVENT waking back up the computer.

Since most .EXEs are under 10k, the process should
occur almost instantly.

I used this technique for Treasure Hunter years ago
which is why I received so much flame Email from
hackers who were hacking up my other projects.
I was tired of writing good software only to have
hackers insert their own names in my games or worse,
put pornography directly in the picture files.

When the internet first came out, there were some
=VERY= rude people out there indeed who tried to
take control of the internet, its forums, chat
bases, and message bases, by being so obnoxious
that only the most immature could stand being in
the communication areas.  Uploaded software to the
internet was considered a grand insult to them
and they did their darndest to mess up anyone's
good works.

They couldn't hack Treasure Hunter because of this
technique.

Now this may all be a bit much for any or most of
you so this could be my paranoid program alone if
no-one else sees a use for it.

> Enlighten me, please.

Consider yourself enlightened !  :)

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member "Roland Walter" <roland@rowalt.de> wrote:

> > List Member "Russell Hayward" <russ@softhome.net>
> > wrote:

> If any of you out there know of a program for
> Windows that can crunch the .EXE of a compiled GFA
> program, and in fact, does crunch it down better
> than 25% of its original size [...]

For 16 bit executables (DOS or Windows) You should
use PKLITE (2.1 - not older!). This program can
compress:
Windows: .EXE, .DLL, and .DRV files.
DOS: .EXE, .COM, .DRV, and .SYS files.

There is a separate version for 32 bit executables.
But note that PKLITE is Shareware. I don't know
the exact licence agreement (reed it by yourself),
but might be You may not use it for commercial
programs without registration.
here is the homepage: http://www.pkware.com

For 32 bit executables You should really use
the program UPX
http://wildsau.idv.uni-linz.ac.at/mfx/upx.html
This program is completely free, the sources
are available and the compression is better
then PKLITE. UPX is able to compress 
- DOS (EXE,SYS...)
- Win32 (EXE,DLL,OCX...)
- a lot of other executables
- IS CURRENT NOT ABLE TO COMPRESS 16BIT WINDOWS EXECUTABLES

For DOS files You also can use LZEXE. This was
made by a french guy several years ago. The
last version is 0.91 but this version works
fine. LZEXE is better then PKLITE and free
(but unfortunately not usable for Windows
executables).

There are a lot of other exe compressors
but I must say: Most of them make a lot
of errors ;-)

Again: For 16bit Windows executables use PKLITE.
Normally it should not be a qestion of GFA Basic
executable format (this is a standard format!).
If You have no compiler and work with incremental
compiled EXE files You can compress as a minimum
the gfarun10.dll. - The incremental compiled EXEs
I have not tested but might be it works also.

Gustavo wrote:
 2)Everything that runs can be reversed.

Correct! - Also for PKLITE and brothers there are a lot of
"decompilers" available. Also there are a lot of "EXE protectors"
where are decompilers available.
Best is an own code. For example use a small XOR encryption
for some strings and so on.

>PS: David, dont forget to include GFARUN10.DLL (163904 
>bytes) when you distribute your \"interpiled\" GFA 
>executables to non GFA users...

"Interpiled" is good! Do You have a copyright
for this word???

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List Member "Sjaak Aarnoutse" <aarnouts@zeelandnet.nl> wrote:
Try this:

http://w3.to/protools


You 'll find a lot of packers, encryptors etc.

Beware, most of them are for PE (Portable Executables = Win32) 


met vriendelijke groet,

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:


--- Pat Bullman <pbullman@norex.com.au> wrote:
> List Member Pat Bullman <pbullman@norex.com.au>
> wrote:
> David,
> 
> Exactley what are you trying to achieve?  Do you
> want to protect your files
> from being copied, or do you want to protect labels
> within your program
> from being changed?
> 
Greets Pat:

Yah I guess I'm leading this little forum straight
into the mind of my own paranoia.  :)

Pat there is a great deal of Shareware out there,
I myself believe for now it does not work very well,
thus my aims at doing FREEWARE.

The package I am referring to would do either.
1) I could either protect it so no-one could use it
past a certain date unless they registered, and I
would be checking down to the SECOND on the clock,
file integrity, TSR interaction, etc.
so changing date or anything for that matter would
not work.  Yaas I'm a little too thorough sometimes.
:)

or 2) Not allow anyone to hack or modify the public-
domain FREEWARE .EXEs I send out.

Since I haven't seen any proof of shareware working,
I will just write the 2nd one.

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Greets Gustavo:

Thank you =3DVERY=3D much for the URL to the .EXE
packers !  I can try all of them but I doubt
seriously one of them would pack one of the .GFA
.EXEs.  (Yaas I'm getting cynical) :)

Hardware protection ?  Geesh I'm surprised they
go that far today !  I remember when I worked
for an Amiga game company they were talking about
including a special controller with my Dragonhunt
so the controller was required in order to play the
game.  Pretty clever I thought, but =3DAWFULLY=3D
desperate !  :)

Regarding sending the GFARUN10.DLL
Thanks for reminding me !  It may be many months
before I release anything that I feel is good enough
to be .EXE only !

Sincerely,
David W.

--- afonsogustavo <afonsogustavo@abordo.com.br> wrote:
> List Member afonsogustavo
> <afonsogustavo@abordo.com.br> wrote:
> Hi,
> I have 2 things to say:
> 1)UPX can pack a number of executable formats:
> dos/exe,=20
> dos/sys, dos/com, djgpp2/coff, watcom/le (supporting
>  DOS4G, PMODE/W, DOS32a and CauseWay), win32/pe,=20
> rtm32/pe, tmt/adam BUT IT CAN=B4T PACK Windows 16bits
> NE=20
> (New Executables)...
> For more details on packing executables go to:
>
http://mercury.spaceports.com/~quel/protools/packers.htm
>=20
> 2)Everything that runs can be reversed. Even the=20
> strongest hardware protection (dongles) can be=20
> emulated...
>=20
> Regards,
> Gustavo
>=20
> PS: David, don=B4t forget to include GFARUN10.DLL
> (163904=20
> bytes) when you distribute your \"interpiled\" GFA=20
> executables to non GFA users...
>=20
>=20
> > List Member Pat Bullman <pbullman@norex.com.au>
> wrote:
> > David,
> >
> > Exactley what are you trying to achieve?  Do you
> want=20
> to protect your files
> > from being copied, or do you want to protect
> labels=20
> within your program
> > from being changed?
> >
> > Pat
> >
> > >> Pat
> > >> *I* have the \"Pro\"... the full GFA-W(16), &
> have
> > >> tried resetting most of the
> > >> compiler instructions at one time or another.=20
> 15K
> > >> *is* just about the smallest
> > >> I can get, but... running somebody else\'s
> cruncher
> > >> on ANY of my *.exes seems
> > >> to hit a snag somewhere & renders\'em useless.=20
> I
> > >> really don\'t have a real feel
> > >> for what these crunchers do, but... I am
> guessing
> > >> that something about how
> > >> GFA-W(16) *.exes are set up just doesn\'t
> support=20
> the
> > >> idea.  I\'ve messed w/
> > >> some *other* *.exes & not had any trouble, but
> > >> GFA\'s....
> > >> <G>
> > >> TomR.
> > >
> > >Greets Tom:
> > >Thanks for backing me up on this !  :)
> > >
> > >I hadda feeling the lack of being able to crunch
> > >a .EXE carried over to the compiler as well and
> > >I see now it has.  Okay, well I\'ve had in mind
> > >a project program I could write that runs .EXE
> > >from inside password protected PKZIP files just
> > >in case it turns out (as it has) that GFA
> doesn\'t
> > >allow crunching .EXEs.  The passwords to the
> PKZIPs ?
> > >Very complex and based entirely on the filename
> you
> > >are extracting and where you are going to use it.
> > >Final results are one very compact .ZXE file that
> > >runs only when you tell it to and very doubtful
> > >anyone is going to guess the 32-character 7-bit
> > >password generated from several hundred instances
> > >of the file itself, its filename, length,
> > >data arrangement, checksum, and opening headers.=20
> :)
> > >
> > >Whatta mess but how else are we to cover our bits
> ?
> >
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:


--- Tom Record
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> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> 
> >McAfee is a virus scanner ?  I haven't written or
> >used any viruses.  Too volatile, and I've heard too
> >many bad stories about them.
> >
> 
> Yep, Davie... 'at's what McAfee is.
> 
> >
> >
> >Hey ! You never did explain what happened !
> >> 
> 
> Bone spurs digging into my spinal cord ruptured a
> disk & were closing in
> around the nerves to my hands.  Was aggravated by
> gettin run over by a 40
> mph car 3 yrs ago.  Doc went in from the front to
> fix it.

> >Yah it's 1:35am here and I'm playing some
> >Lunar on the playstation answering this late nite
> >Email.

> So... where you?  Me, NE Okla - Tulsa.1:52 here,
> now.
> 
> <G>
> TomR.

I'm from Fort Worth, TX, probably the biggest
dust bowl out there.  :)  It rains but very seldom,
and if some country is getting blown off the map
because of a hurricane, tornado, or typhoon, we get
enough gentle breeze to keep a kite in the air.

Nothing exciting ever happens !  Ah well..

Regarding your injury, *Owwitch!*  I've been involved
in more head injury accidents then I care to remember
and I'm okay (at least until I get back the results
from my MRI the end of this month!)  (Grin)

Sincerely,
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
UPDATE:
Calculator by Markus Kunter. Now includes German/English Winhelp help files
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Davie
A touch of paranoia is OK every so often <G>.

Archiving to ship is one thing.  "Packing" to protect is another.  I
was having trouble deciding which way you were trying to go.  I can 
archive any GFA-W(16) *.exe - smaller pkg, but all attempts to protect'em 
by packing bombed the *.exes & they wouldn't run afterward.  Nobody ever
goofed far enough to say *I* know much about any of these subjects.

The "Big DFW area..."  Have a son-in-law works there.  They're 5 hrs
south of me, another hr to FtW.  Main "like" about the area was that, where 
ever I was headed, it meant I was at least half-way there.  Usta sell concrete
pots, planters, furniture to nurseries around there outa Saint Jo.
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At 08:27 AM 07/03/00 -0800, you wrote:
>List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
>--- Tom Record
><tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> List Member Tom Record
>> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> Ok... 'fess-up time!  You want to compress an *.exe
>> to prohibit 
>> someone messing with it, & have it run... right? 
>
>Okay so far.
>
>> How the world 
>> are you proposing to do this w/ PKLite?  That would
>> make a *.zip 
>> of it, but I don't believe it would run until
>> unzipped.
>
>Nono..  PKLite wouldn't compress it either, so it's
>going to need PKZip all the way.
>
>PKLite returns:
>WINDCHIM.EXE does not use KERNEL
>
>> The "crunchers" I've played with leave it an *.exe,
>> but smaller
>> as a file.  I can make a *.zip an executable, but
>> all it is is 
>> a self-extracting archive, NOT a functional program,
>> until extracted.
>
>Nono..  Not a .EXE self-extractor.
>It would be a PKZIP file that is either one of a few
>things.
>
>1) Encrypted Binary, =NO= way to PKUNZIP without
>   changing every single byte in the encrypted
>   file first
>
>2) Use PKZIP's password protector, 32-char. derived
>   from SINQ/COSQ/Filesize/Filename, etc.
>
>3) Or both
>
>I propose to write a program to lock
>windows during unpacking and then run it immediately.
>The first instructions that program that is run send
>is to WIPE (See Unzipper) the .EXE that was run,
>then do a PEEKEVENT waking back up the computer.
>
>Since most .EXEs are under 10k, the process should
>occur almost instantly.
>
>I used this technique for Treasure Hunter years ago
>which is why I received so much flame Email from
>hackers who were hacking up my other projects.
>I was tired of writing good software only to have
>hackers insert their own names in my games or worse,
>put pornography directly in the picture files.
>
>When the internet first came out, there were some
>=VERY= rude people out there indeed who tried to
>take control of the internet, its forums, chat
>bases, and message bases, by being so obnoxious
>that only the most immature could stand being in
>the communication areas.  Uploaded software to the
>internet was considered a grand insult to them
>and they did their darndest to mess up anyone's
>good works.
>
>They couldn't hack Treasure Hunter because of this
>technique.
>
>Now this may all be a bit much for any or most of
>you so this could be my paranoid program alone if
>no-one else sees a use for it.
>
>> Enlighten me, please.
>
>Consider yourself enlightened !  :)
>
>Sincerely,
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Michael!
Somehow, I think you & I are NOT in tune w/ something here.
I have a dozen or so archivers, each will chomp a GFA-W(16) *.exe down to
a smaller file for transmission on the net.  OK?  I somehow think we're
in a discussion of making an *.exe that will run COMPRESSED - not having to
be decompressed to run.  NOTHING I have will do this... even the "crunchers"
I have played with.  The GFA-W(16) *.exes I tried this on bombed afterward.

I *CAN* trap copying one of my *.exes to another HD & either delete it, make 
it revert to some un-registered condition, or just sit there, taking up space.

Curiosity has raised it's head on the question of changing labels.  Mebbeso a
couple of trips thru an XOR would keep *these* semi-secure.  Blocking the
changing of images.... hang on a bit... I'm just now learning how to put those
damned things into a *.res file properly for $LNK on compile.  I've managed to
change a few out just for the hell of it.

I've run into a multitude of brick walls trying to get consent to use others'
images for screensavers, calendars, etc., so am going back to trying to simplify
getting all of the bits & pieces to work together.  Wording is extremely
critical!

I can put ANY image format into *.res now.  Getting'em to load properly is
another
independent bitch of a job.  Roland's codec-compressed *.bmp can be done, as
well
as *.gif, *.jpg, *.tga, *.cut, *.png, *.pcx, etc.  Refining the "get'em-out" is
taking a long, long time.

I suspect that a lot of *my* problems w/ images & mebbeso David's with crunchers
just might lie in NOT going "C" all the way... NOT using only WinAPI
construction
to do everything.  Mixing some GFA-W(16) internal functions into the mess could
be the real problem we're hitting.  Well, *they* are hitting.  Given that the
GFA compiler has a file-size adjustment, see... I donno what I'm talking
about <G>.
<G>
TomR.



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>List Member Vogel Michael <vo@schoeller.at> wrote:
>Oh god, 
>
>  PKZIP will do a *.zip file
>  PKLITE will compress *.com and *.exe files
>
>Just try it, 
>   you'll see the difference !
>
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>> Von: 	Tom Record[SMTP:tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net]
>> Gesendet: 	Di, 07. Mrz 2000 11:21
>> An: 	gfabasic@gfa.net
>> Betreff: 	Re: [gfabasic] Compressing GFA Executables
>> 
>> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> Ok... 'fess-up time!  You want to compress an *.exe to prohibit 
>> someone messing with it, & have it run... right?  How the world 
>> are you proposing to do this w/ PKLite?  That would make a *.zip 
>> of it, but I don't believe it would run until unzipped.
>> 
>> The "crunchers" I've played with leave it an *.exe, but smaller
>> as a file.  I can make a *.zip an executable, but all it is is 
>> a self-extracting archive, NOT a functional program, until extracted.
>> 
>> Enlighten me, please.
>> <G>
>> TomR.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> At 12:31 AM 07/03/00 -0800, you wrote:
>> >List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >--- Tom Record
>> ><tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> >> List Member Tom Record
>> >> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> >> Pat
>> >> *I* have the "Pro"... the full GFA-W(16), & have
>> >> tried resetting most of the
>> >> compiler instructions at one time or another.  15K
>> >> *is* just about the smallest
>> >> I can get, but... running somebody else's cruncher
>> >> on ANY of my *.exes seems
>> >> to hit a snag somewhere & renders'em useless.  I
>> >> really don't have a real feel
>> >> for what these crunchers do, but... I am guessing
>> >> that something about how
>> >> GFA-W(16) *.exes are set up just doesn't support the
>> >> idea.  I've messed w/
>> >> some *other* *.exes & not had any trouble, but
>> >> GFA's....
>> >> <G>
>> >> TomR.
>> >
>> >Greets Tom:
>> >Thanks for backing me up on this !  :)
>> >
>> >I hadda feeling the lack of being able to crunch
>> >a .EXE carried over to the compiler as well and
>> >I see now it has.  Okay, well I've had in mind
>> >a project program I could write that runs .EXE
>> >from inside password protected PKZIP files just
>> >in case it turns out (as it has) that GFA doesn't
>> >allow crunching .EXEs.  The passwords to the PKZIPs ?
>> >Very complex and based entirely on the filename you
>> >are extracting and where you are going to use it.
>> >Final results are one very compact .ZXE file that
>> >runs only when you tell it to and very doubtful
>> >anyone is going to guess the 32-character 7-bit
>> >password generated from several hundred instances
>> >of the file itself, its filename, length,
>> >data arrangement, checksum, and opening headers.  :)
>> >
>> >Whatta mess but how else are we to cover our bits ?
>> >
>> >Sincerely,
>> >David W.
>> >
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:


--- Tom Record
<tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Davie
> A touch of paranoia is OK every so often <G>.

Yah well maybe I've had reason to be paranoid with
some of the companies I've dealt with.  :)
 
> Archiving to ship is one thing.  "Packing" to
> protect is another.  I
> was having trouble deciding which way you were
> trying to go.  I can 
> archive any GFA-W(16) *.exe - smaller pkg, but all
> attempts to protect'em 
> by packing bombed the *.exes & they wouldn't run
> afterward.  Nobody ever
> goofed far enough to say *I* know much about any of
> these subjects.

Tom, it's really simple.  Imagine a strange little
program that was written that quite simply did PKUNZIP
on data files that in no easy way can be manually
PKUNZIPed, not just for the password but the entire
contents are scrambled.  As soon as you have extracted
a .EXE, you run it immediately.  Note, during the
unpacking process and the actual act of running the
software you need to =LOCK= the computer so it does
only this.  KILLEVENT and some command like force
mouse to work in this window only would do it.  As
well as disabling the keyboard.  All pretty straight
forward.  The very first thing your program does
once it runs is to delete itself, WIPE itself.
Once its confirmed there's no trace or link, re-enact
the keyboard, re-enact the mouse and all pertinent
drivers.  The entire process might take as long as
1 second on a pentium class computer.

The results ?  Flawless execution of compressed .EXEs
and no way to trace back to them either.  :)
This was one of several techniques I used to protect
my software when I was writing for the big boys,
mostly to protect myself from them ripping me off,
which happened, often, and oftener !  :/
> 
> The "Big DFW area..."  Have a son-in-law works
> there.  They're 5 hrs
> south of me, another hr to FtW.  Main "like" about
> the area was that, where 
> ever I was headed, it meant I was at least half-way
> there.  Usta sell concrete
> pots, planters, furniture to nurseries around there
> outa Saint Jo.

Acch, only work I ever did with flowers was get hired
at a flower shop on Valentine's Day.  I had a
dis-agreement with the owner on the way he was
treating the roses and got tossed out on my keister.
Ah well..  I never have been one to get along well
with others in a workplace..  :)

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
This post isn't a reply to anyone, it's just to
clarify to others (especially myself), what we're
talking about.

PKZIP as everyone knows can compress any file of any
type.  A few exceptions are photograph quality data
files like .JPGs, and some .GIFs.

I am not proposing to rewrite PKZIP or merely use
PKZIP to compress the data for shipping.  I'm talking
about using PKZIP and PKUNZIP themselves to
create "pseudo" compressed .EXE files.  Since the
SHELL command in GFA works quite well, provided you
have locked out all TSR interaction from other
programs, for just an instant, you have complete
control of the computer to UNPACK a thoroughly
encrypted PKZIP file that may not even have the
".zip" extension and then using SHELL or RUN to
execute it.  The first few statements in that program
should do a few things.  Immediately WIPE the copy
from the hard-drive so it cannot be copied later,
and then reenact keyboard, mouse, all drivers as
normal.  The effect ?  It's not too pretty but better
than not at all.  You can run compressed .EXEs.
I've done this many times on prior computer packages,
not just IBM-pc, but Commodore Amiga which made use
of LZH pretty heavily.  F-Basic was the choice of
my poison then and I used it as well as LZH side-by-
side to extract compacted executables and then wipe
them before they can ever be tracked or traced.

Fortunately with the advent of IBM-pc and such fine
packages as LZEXE, PKLITE, and WWPACK, they were not
needed.  Unfortunately s the future inability to
pack GFA .EXEs raises its ugly head again and I must
revert to the techniques prior to .EXE crunchers
existing at all which were the techniques I mentioned
earlier above.

Hope This Helps !

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member Dean Hodgson <dhodgson@nexus.edu.au> wrote:
David Wicker wrote:
> 
> Fortunately with the advent of IBM-pc and such fine
> packages as LZEXE, PKLITE, and WWPACK, they were not
> needed.  Unfortunately s the future inability to
> pack GFA .EXEs raises its ugly head again and I must
> revert to the techniques prior to .EXE crunchers
> existing at all which were the techniques I mentioned
> earlier above.
> 

I tried packing a GFAWIN EXE file I made with LZEXE and it did not run. Came up with the
message "Not a Dos program". However, I've been using ARQ.EXE to pack my programs for
distribution for the following reasons:

(1) We purchased the rights to the source code and it was included in a general purpose
Windows 3 Setup utility that my unit produced a few years ago. I can provide this Setup
program to you free.

(2) Very few people seem to have this utility. ARQ packed files cannot be unpacked by
Winzip, Pkunzip, LHA, LHARK, etc. They seem to be pretty unique.

(3) ARQ.EXE is a Dos program. The source code we have is for Windows and we've put it into
our own Setup.Exe so I have both.

Personally I prefer LHA but that doesn't provide adequate security as Winzip will unpack
those files. Anyway, just some ideas. David, if you want ARQ and our SETUP, just let me
know.


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Subject: [gfabasic] Dirty Limerick Enclosed !
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Well, Char8 went through a visual overhaul !
I think you'll find these results better than
the prior version.  Updated 03/07/2000
Limerick
[enclosed]

Just another way of me going against the
grain of the wood in Windows !

(which undoubtedly is a perfect system !  I just
 haven't noticed yet !)  :)

Sincerely,
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List Member Pat Bullman <pbullman@norex.com.au> wrote:
Firstly, can someone please explain exactly what Shareware and Freeware are
and how they work in the real world?

I'm very interested in ways of protecting one's work and I'd love to hear
of successful ways of doing so.

Michael's suggestion of:

>I propose to write a program to lock windows 
>during unpacking and then run it immediately.  
>The first instructions that program that is run send
>is to WIPE (See Unzipper) the .EXE that was run,
>then do a PEEKEVENT waking back up the computer.

sounds the best so far, as long as the user is not aware of what's
happening.  In a 'multi-tasking' environment like windows (WIN95 and WIN98)
all someone has to do is run a background application which polls for the
creation of the new file and, once found, 'locks' it so it can't be
deleted.  I'm also wondering if Michael's approach would work under
Windows, where Windows, unlike DOS, does not necessarily load all of an
.exe.  Maybe an 'interpiled' program would be Ok, but these .exe's run a
lot slower than a truely compiled/linked .exe.

Indeed, if you had a resource file compiled into your program, you would
need the .exe until the program terminated.

The only programs I've sold are of a specialised accounting/invoicing
nature, where an important element is the user's Name (or Company Name).
Before the program can be run, they are required to contact me for a
password, which is based on their Name.  If they ever change the Name, a
new password is required.  I check the Name/password each time the program
saves data and every time something is printed.  This approach has worked
well for me over the last 10yrs, for GFA and QB based programs.  However
this requires the user to contact me for a password before the program is
usable and there have been instances where I've been unavailable for over a
week and the users have been really pissed.

My current project is not Name dependant so I'm also keen to find a more
suitable protection method.


Pat

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List Member glenn short <admin@mcmelectronics.com.au> wrote:
att russel hayward,
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List Member afonsogustavo@abordo.com.br wrote:
Hi,
I think the 1st thing you have to do when you want to protect a program is to
know how a program can be unprotected. The tools used by the people who
unprotect programs can be found in http://protools.cjb.net  (debuggers,
decompilers, unpackers, file patchers, memory patchers,etc.). Knowledge of
assembly language and windows is also nedeed.
Regards,
Gustavo




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> List Member Pat Bullman <pbullman@norex.com.au> wrote:
> Firstly, can someone please explain exactly what Shareware and Freeware are
> and how they work in the real world?
>
> I'm very interested in ways of protecting one's work and I'd love to hear
> of successful ways of doing so.
>
> Michael's suggestion of:
>
> >I propose to write a program to lock windows
> >during unpacking and then run it immediately.
> >The first instructions that program that is run send
> >is to WIPE (See Unzipper) the .EXE that was run,
> >then do a PEEKEVENT waking back up the computer.
>
> sounds the best so far, as long as the user is not aware of what's
> happening.  In a 'multi-tasking' environment like windows (WIN95 and WIN98)
> all someone has to do is run a background application which polls for the
> creation of the new file and, once found, 'locks' it so it can't be
> deleted.  I'm also wondering if Michael's approach would work under
> Windows, where Windows, unlike DOS, does not necessarily load all of an
> .exe.  Maybe an 'interpiled' program would be Ok, but these .exe's run a
> lot slower than a truely compiled/linked .exe.
>
> Indeed, if you had a resource file compiled into your program, you would
> need the .exe until the program terminated.
>
> The only programs I've sold are of a specialised accounting/invoicing
> nature, where an important element is the user's Name (or Company Name).
> Before the program can be run, they are required to contact me for a
> password, which is based on their Name.  If they ever change the Name, a
> new password is required.  I check the Name/password each time the program
> saves data and every time something is printed.  This approach has worked
> well for me over the last 10yrs, for GFA and QB based programs.  However
> this requires the user to contact me for a password before the program is
> usable and there have been instances where I've been unavailable for over a
> week and the users have been really pissed.
>
> My current project is not Name dependant so I'm also keen to find a more
> suitable protection method.
>
> Pat
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Hello, you like to hide strings within the Exe-file, I'm doing something
simple like the following...
just have a look

Michael



 <<CRYPT.GFW>> 
> ----------
> Von: 	David Wicker[SMTP:dw817@yahoo.com]
> Gesendet: 	Di, 07. Mrz 2000 19:54
> An: 	gfabasic@gfa.net
> Betreff: 	Re: [gfabasic] Compressing GFA Executables
> 
> List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> --- Pat Bullman <pbullman@norex.com.au> wrote:
> > List Member Pat Bullman <pbullman@norex.com.au>
> > wrote:
> > David,
> > 
> > Exactley what are you trying to achieve?  Do you
> > want to protect your files
> > from being copied, or do you want to protect labels
> > within your program
> > from being changed?
> > 
> Greets Pat:
> 
> Yah I guess I'm leading this little forum straight
> into the mind of my own paranoia.  :)
> 
> Pat there is a great deal of Shareware out there,
> I myself believe for now it does not work very well,
> thus my aims at doing FREEWARE.
> 
> The package I am referring to would do either.
> 1) I could either protect it so no-one could use it
> past a certain date unless they registered, and I
> would be checking down to the SECOND on the clock,
> file integrity, TSR interaction, etc.
> so changing date or anything for that matter would
> not work.  Yaas I'm a little too thorough sometimes.
> :)
> 
> or 2) Not allow anyone to hack or modify the public-
> domain FREEWARE .EXEs I send out.
> 
> Since I haven't seen any proof of shareware working,
> I will just write the 2nd one.
> 
> Sincerely,
> David W.
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Boss
Put *my* name on the list?  I'd like to have the whole suite, too.
I have something to unarq, but haven't messed w/ it.
Thanks
<G>
TomR.



At 01:02 PM 08/03/00 +1030, you wrote:
>List Member Dean Hodgson <dhodgson@nexus.edu.au> wrote:
>David Wicker wrote:
>> 
>> Fortunately with the advent of IBM-pc and such fine
>> packages as LZEXE, PKLITE, and WWPACK, they were not
>> needed.  Unfortunately s the future inability to
>> pack GFA .EXEs raises its ugly head again and I must
>> revert to the techniques prior to .EXE crunchers
>> existing at all which were the techniques I mentioned
>> earlier above.
>> 
>
>I tried packing a GFAWIN EXE file I made with LZEXE and it did not run.
Came up with the
>message "Not a Dos program". However, I've been using ARQ.EXE to pack my
programs for
>distribution for the following reasons:
>
>(1) We purchased the rights to the source code and it was included in a
general purpose
>Windows 3 Setup utility that my unit produced a few years ago. I can
provide this Setup
>program to you free.
>
>(2) Very few people seem to have this utility. ARQ packed files cannot be
unpacked by
>Winzip, Pkunzip, LHA, LHARK, etc. They seem to be pretty unique.
>
>(3) ARQ.EXE is a Dos program. The source code we have is for Windows and
we've put it into
>our own Setup.Exe so I have both.
>
>Personally I prefer LHA but that doesn't provide adequate security as
Winzip will unpack
>those files. Anyway, just some ideas. David, if you want ARQ and our SETUP,
just let me
>know.
>
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Subject: Re: [gfabasic] Shareware v Freeware
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Pat, et.al.....
One way around the problem cited here is to get hooked up w/ one of several
shareware sales outlets that keep onhand a message from the author that is
sent as soon as the transaction is complete.  The message often contains some 
sort of activation code that is immediately available to the buyer.  This could
be followed up by a message directly from the author at a later date with final 
activation/licensing instructions &/or passwords.

It would be pretty simple to include in the appl all that is necessary to do
the final activation.  It can be based on the e-mail adres in it's entirety.
In my case, that would be 55 chars, easily (keeping the "<",">").  The appl
can "patch" itself in the "enter password" or "register" step - all it requires
is knowing where the entry is in the file to go directly to it.

Rest assured, whatever you put on the market, *somebody* is going to hack into
it just for the hell of it, so all you can really do is keep an honest customer
honest.
<G>
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>List Member afonsogustavo@abordo.com.br wrote:
>Hi,
>I think the 1st thing you have to do when you want to protect a program is to
>know how a program can be unprotected. The tools used by the people who
>unprotect programs can be found in http://protools.cjb.net  (debuggers,
>decompilers, unpackers, file patchers, memory patchers,etc.). Knowledge of
>assembly language and windows is also nedeed.
>Regards,
>Gustavo
>
>
>
>
>Pat Bullman wrote:
>
>> List Member Pat Bullman <pbullman@norex.com.au> wrote:
>> Firstly, can someone please explain exactly what Shareware and Freeware are
>> and how they work in the real world?
>>
>> I'm very interested in ways of protecting one's work and I'd love to hear
>> of successful ways of doing so.
>>
>> Michael's suggestion of:
>>
>> >I propose to write a program to lock windows
>> >during unpacking and then run it immediately.
>> >The first instructions that program that is run send
>> >is to WIPE (See Unzipper) the .EXE that was run,
>> >then do a PEEKEVENT waking back up the computer.
>>
>> sounds the best so far, as long as the user is not aware of what's
>> happening.  In a 'multi-tasking' environment like windows (WIN95 and WIN98)
>> all someone has to do is run a background application which polls for the
>> creation of the new file and, once found, 'locks' it so it can't be
>> deleted.  I'm also wondering if Michael's approach would work under
>> Windows, where Windows, unlike DOS, does not necessarily load all of an
>> .exe.  Maybe an 'interpiled' program would be Ok, but these .exe's run a
>> lot slower than a truely compiled/linked .exe.
>>
>> Indeed, if you had a resource file compiled into your program, you would
>> need the .exe until the program terminated.
>>
>> The only programs I've sold are of a specialised accounting/invoicing
>> nature, where an important element is the user's Name (or Company Name).
>> Before the program can be run, they are required to contact me for a
>> password, which is based on their Name.  If they ever change the Name, a
>> new password is required.  I check the Name/password each time the program
>> saves data and every time something is printed.  This approach has worked
>> well for me over the last 10yrs, for GFA and QB based programs.  However
>> this requires the user to contact me for a password before the program is
>> usable and there have been instances where I've been unavailable for over a
>> week and the users have been really pissed.
>>
>> My current project is not Name dependant so I'm also keen to find a more
>> suitable protection method.
>>
>> Pat
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Thanks for the explanation.  Why do these wierd things have to seem to make
terrific sense?  lordie!  I reckon I'll content myself just getting some of
what I'm "working" on functional.
<G>
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>List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>--- Tom Record
><tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> List Member Tom Record
>> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> Davie
>> A touch of paranoia is OK every so often <G>.
>
>Yah well maybe I've had reason to be paranoid with
>some of the companies I've dealt with.  :)
> 
>> Archiving to ship is one thing.  "Packing" to
>> protect is another.  I
>> was having trouble deciding which way you were
>> trying to go.  I can 
>> archive any GFA-W(16) *.exe - smaller pkg, but all
>> attempts to protect'em 
>> by packing bombed the *.exes & they wouldn't run
>> afterward.  Nobody ever
>> goofed far enough to say *I* know much about any of
>> these subjects.
>
>Tom, it's really simple.  Imagine a strange little
>program that was written that quite simply did PKUNZIP
>on data files that in no easy way can be manually
>PKUNZIPed, not just for the password but the entire
>contents are scrambled.  As soon as you have extracted
>a .EXE, you run it immediately.  Note, during the
>unpacking process and the actual act of running the
>software you need to =LOCK= the computer so it does
>only this.  KILLEVENT and some command like force
>mouse to work in this window only would do it.  As
>well as disabling the keyboard.  All pretty straight
>forward.  The very first thing your program does
>once it runs is to delete itself, WIPE itself.
>Once its confirmed there's no trace or link, re-enact
>the keyboard, re-enact the mouse and all pertinent
>drivers.  The entire process might take as long as
>1 second on a pentium class computer.
>
>The results ?  Flawless execution of compressed .EXEs
>and no way to trace back to them either.  :)
>This was one of several techniques I used to protect
>my software when I was writing for the big boys,
>mostly to protect myself from them ripping me off,
>which happened, often, and oftener !  :/
>> 
>> The "Big DFW area..."  Have a son-in-law works
>> there.  They're 5 hrs
>> south of me, another hr to FtW.  Main "like" about
>> the area was that, where 
>> ever I was headed, it meant I was at least half-way
>> there.  Usta sell concrete
>> pots, planters, furniture to nurseries around there
>> outa Saint Jo.
>
>Acch, only work I ever did with flowers was get hired
>at a flower shop on Valentine's Day.  I had a
>dis-agreement with the owner on the way he was
>treating the roses and got tossed out on my keister.
>Ah well..  I never have been one to get along well
>with others in a workplace..  :)
>
>Sincerely,
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--- Vogel Michael <vo@schoeller.at> wrote:
> 
> Hello, you like to hide strings within the Exe-file,
> I'm doing something
> simple like the following...
> just have a look
> 
> Michael

Greets Michael:

Yes, it's a good program but not nearly complex
enough.  A good encryptor would turn "2000" not
into something as simple as "8:::" but far more
complex like, "%z-R" derived from the instance it
is activated, the area it is used in and possibly
additional encryptor keysums and checksums.

Sincerely,
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--- afonsogustavo@abordo.com.br wrote:
> List Member afonsogustavo@abordo.com.br wrote:
> Hi,
> I think the 1st thing you have to do when you want
> to protect a program is to
> know how a program can be unprotected. The tools
> used by the people who
> unprotect programs can be found in
> http://protools.cjb.net  (debuggers,
> decompilers, unpackers, file patchers, memory
> patchers,etc.). Knowledge of
> assembly language and windows is also nedeed.
> Regards,
> Gustavo

Well Gustavo, I haven't played my hand against
master decryptors for several years.  It's quite
possible the techniques I used years ago that
could not be cracked could well be cracked today,
especially for those who decompile the initial
.EXE, but I certainly wouldn't make it easy for
them !  :)

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--- Tom Record
<tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Pat, et.al.....
> One way around the problem cited here is to get
> hooked up w/ one of several
> shareware sales outlets that keep onhand a message
> from the author that is
> sent as soon as the transaction is complete.  The
> message often contains some 
> sort of activation code that is immediately
> available to the buyer.  This could
> be followed up by a message directly from the author
> at a later date with final 
> activation/licensing instructions &/or passwords.
> 
> It would be pretty simple to include in the appl all
> that is necessary to do
> the final activation.  It can be based on the e-mail
> adres in it's entirety.
> In my case, that would be 55 chars, easily (keeping
> the "<",">").  The appl
> can "patch" itself in the "enter password" or
> "register" step - all it requires
> is knowing where the entry is in the file to go
> directly to it.
> 
> Rest assured, whatever you put on the market,
> *somebody* is going to hack into
> it just for the hell of it, so all you can really do
> is keep an honest customer
> honest.
> <G>
> TomR.

Tom, I don't know if that's the case though.
I think it's possible I could very easily write a
program that would be royal hell for anyone to
decipher.  You don't just want to take into account
simple things like text, but more complex and
untrackable things like internal computer IDs,
and information along this line, so yes, they
can copy the program and back it up to their
heart's content, but when it is ready to give out,
there is no way on the green earth they are going
to get it to run again without the proper password,
which is also only effective on their computer
solely.

Since Shareware doesn't seem to work, my task is
easier, I don't need to write a registration engine,
but a simple pseudo ".exe" cruncher that is
untrackable and completely unavailable until I release
the computer back on its proper task route.

Computer have advanced since I've written some of
these kinds of codes and concerns of mine are:

LAN networking, where someone can be on a different
computer and extract out the files then.  They
would only be visible in the computer for 1 second,
but it would be possible to rig a program that
copies anything that appears anywhere on the computer
where the intervention is occuring on a completely
separate LAN linked network computer.

Now =THIS= I don't know how to get around and would
be interested in hearing some ideas about it !  :)

Sincerely,
David W.

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Subject: Re: [gfabasic] AW: Compressing GFA Executables
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> However, I've been
> using ARQ.EXE to pack my programs for
> distribution for the following reasons:
> (1) We purchased the rights to the source code and
> it was included in a general purpose
> Windows 3 Setup utility that my unit produced a few
> years ago. I can provide this Setup
> program to you free.

Greets Dean:

Are you selling Shareware ?  :)

I never really feel very comfortable
about using any software except my own.  Regarding,
ARQ, it was written sometime by someone and if you
managed to get the sourcecode, then that is proof
someone else could too.  Not good.  As for unpacking
and encrypting, I would rely only on myself for
something I would be comfortable with.

PKZIP is good and useful for
unzipping files for easy installation, I have no
trouble with this.

In any case, as merely an
archive or storage medium, PKZIP is fine.  I'm not
trying to hide an installation or anything.

The original ".zip" file that I would want to hide
that is accessed during system operation would be
royally scrambled with the system ID of the computer,
the user's name (if registration), and so forth,
so even removing every single entry from the windows
registry would not allow the program to continue past
a fixed Shareware date (and I haven't seen Shareware
work yet so I don't need to write this in GFA for
everyone), or merely protecting the rather naked
.EXEs that GFA generates.

Do appreciate the offer tho !  :)
If you've got some really old files, do you have
anything for this ?  I've been looking for the
source code or at least some usable Windows file,
possibly additional data files for this unusual
program.  I think the melody is generated
mathematically which is of great interest to me !
[enclosed]

To play it try out in DOS:

TESTPLAY CHILD.XMS

Is an .XMS a valid music file for some program
besides this ?  I just don't know.

Sincerely,
David W.

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--- Tom Record
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> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Boss
> Put *my* name on the list?  I'd like to have the
> whole suite, too.
> I have something to unarq, but haven't messed w/ it.
> Thanks
> <G>
> TomR.

Ah !  That reminds me (a simple favor probably to
most of you!) :)  I need the URL address please to
unpack modern .LZH files.  The unpacker I am using
so viciously ancient it won't unpack anything modern !

Thanks !

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--- Dale Bryant <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com>
> wrote:
> UPDATE:
> Calculator by Markus Kunter. Now includes
> German/English Winhelp help files
> Look for
> CALCULTR.ZIP
> Dale

Calculator..  Now there's a program that could
be written well !  It would need to allow multiple
uses of parenthesis, and math equations.

Is there one out already ?
I'm tired of tapping that ol' nasty [F4] in GFA
to do some complex equations.

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--- Sjaak Aarnoutse <aarnouts@zeelandnet.nl> wrote:
> List Member "Sjaak Aarnoutse"
> <aarnouts@zeelandnet.nl> wrote:
> Try this:
> 
> http://w3.to/protools
> You 'll find a lot of packers, encryptors etc.
> Beware, most of them are for PE (Portable
> Executables = Win32) 

Greets Sjaak:

Thanks for the URL !  But, been there done that.
:)

My Dad has the sourcecode in C to PKZIP if anyone
wants it.  I wouldna touch it with a 10 foot polecat,
but C may be someone's forte in here.

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--- Tom Record
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> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Thanks for the explanation.  Why do these wierd
> things have to seem to make
> terrific sense?  lordie!  I reckon I'll content
> myself just getting some of
> what I'm "working" on functional.
> <G>
> TomR.

Yah well don't mind me Tom.  I eat BITs for
breakfast !  I remember when I was keenly interested
in getting the very smallest .COM files for IBM-pc,
I once had a full adventure game that played like
ATARI's adventure in about 284 bytes !  Too cool !
:)  When I was writing games that allowed you to
save your game via a password I used techniques like:

BITS
0-1 = Sword Class 1-4
2-3 = Armor Class 1-4
4-7 = Map Gate Location 1-8

See, in one byte I've saved off an entire simple RPG
game !  :)  To go further into it, instead of using
BITs to FLAG where the player is, you would use
another byte to show progress in the game, literally
0-255 where 0 is at the start of the game, and if
this # is as high as 17 or so, you've met the King,
rescued the maiden in dis-dress, and are now in the
Valley of Shadows looking for the dark overlord.

If you just used a byte for flags, you could only
have 8 !  Not nearly enough to store good things !

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List Member Pat Bullman <pbullman@norex.com.au> wrote:
David,

>LAN networking, where someone can be on a different
>computer and extract out the files then.  They
>would only be visible in the computer for 1 second,
>but it would be possible to rig a program that
>copies anything that appears anywhere on the computer
>where the intervention is occuring on a completely
>separate LAN linked network computer.


Not only LAN's, but any WIN95 onwards system would allow a program to run
in the background and poll for new files.  You'd be safe win WIN 3.x as
long as the extracting program did not release control to Windows (ie no
PEEKEVENTS in the code until the unpacking completed and the .exe file
deleted).

Pat

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Not only LAN's, but any WIN95 onwards system would
> allow a program to run
> in the background and poll for new files.  You'd be
> safe win WIN 3.x as
> long as the extracting program did not release
> control to Windows (ie no
> PEEKEVENTS in the code until the unpacking completed
> and the .exe file
> deleted).

Owwwitch !  It's just not fair..  But wouldn't my
using WIPE to zap them remove them too ?

Well folks after fighting it all day I'm happy to
say I finally finished my BITMAP Saver !

In it, you can save off your own custom 24-bit
bitmaps !

...there's already one out, isn't there David ???

Yes, but you can =READ= mine and it's very easy
to understand !  Check it out, I'm going to use it
to convert my older .WDW files so I can do some
image conversions for Gredit.

http://www.geocities.com/dw817/savebmp.zip

It's only a fat download because of the sample
picture !  The routine to save bitmaps is about
12 lines without comments and special FX I put into
it !

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Sorry guys, that's not quite right, it's
http://www.geocities.com/dw817/gfabasic/savebmp.zip

Okay, enjoy !

Sincerely,
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List Member "Russell Hayward" <russ@softhome.net> wrote:
Glenn,

> att russel hayward,
> An engineer who has left the company suscribed to this list, not anyone
who is
> presently employed  by the company. Ive only tried to unsuscribe once
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> with no luck. Maybe you could think twice before referring to other people
as
> stupid!!
> regards
> Glenn Short.

As I said in my previous message, I had sent the instructions detailing how
to remove your name from the list 2 days before I sent the 'less subtle
reminder'. I would have thought if you were paying any attention at all, or
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Maybe I am asking too much, after all, it could take all of 5 seconds to
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Greet Admin:

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I sent him the directions again, the third time.

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--- Dale Bryant <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com>
> wrote:
> I sent him the directions again, the third time.

Greets Dale:

I dunno maybe you shouldn't be too hard on them,
they sound kinna like me and can't see something
unless it's dangling off the tip o' their nose.  :)

I program like this sometimes I think..

Hey !  Did you like Char8 ?  Char16 will be used
for all new menus.  I'm working out the technics
inside GREDIT which will span first to update
Jukebox.

Sincerely,
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List Member Vogel Michael <vo@schoeller.at> wrote:
Come on, 
it was just a simple procedure, which can be easily changed, for higher
security I'm using something like the following code lines: (I don't
believe, that anyone can decode it without the knowledge of the "magic" key)

Michael

// init //
        magic$="A special text (256 chars long), what ever you want, which
is used as a long 'key'...." 
        memptr%=v:text$
        pointer% = 0
        code& = startvalue1&
        subc& = startvalue2&

// coding // (c) by Michael Vogel
          DO WHILE pointer% < Length%
            char& = BYTE{MemPtr% + pointer%}
            char& = XOR(XOR(char&,code&),PEEK(V:magic$ + AND(255,pointer%)))
            code& += char& + subc&  // Again, you can change the formulas to
more complex things...
            BYTE{MemPtr% + pointer%} = char&
            pointer% ++
          WEND

// decoding // (c) by Michael Vogel
        DO WHILE pointer% < Length%
          chaz& = BYTE{MemPtr% + pointer%}
          char& = XOR(XOR(chaz&,PEEK(V:magic$ + AND(255,pointer%))),code&)
          code& += chaz& + subc&
          BYTE{MemPtr% + pointer%} = char&
          pointer% ++
        WEND


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> Von: 	David Wicker[SMTP:dw817@yahoo.com]
> Gesendet: 	Mi, 08. Mrz 2000 17:25
> An: 	gfabasic@gfa.net
> Betreff: 	Re: [gfabasic] AW: Compressing GFA Executables
> 
> List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> --- Vogel Michael <vo@schoeller.at> wrote:
> > 
> > Hello, you like to hide strings within the Exe-file,
> > I'm doing something
> > simple like the following...
> > just have a look
> > 
> > Michael
> 
> Greets Michael:
> 
> Yes, it's a good program but not nearly complex
> enough.  A good encryptor would turn "2000" not
> into something as simple as "8:::" but far more
> complex like, "%z-R" derived from the instance it
> is activated, the area it is used in and possibly
> additional encryptor keysums and checksums.
> 
> Sincerely,
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:


--- Vogel Michael <vo@schoeller.at> wrote:
> List Member Vogel Michael <vo@schoeller.at> wrote:
> Come on, 
> it was just a simple procedure, which can be easily
> changed, for higher
> security I'm using something like the following code
> lines: (I don't
> believe, that anyone can decode it without the
> knowledge of the "magic" key)
> 
> Michael

Well you haven't been burned enough times by
hackers in the past.  :/  It was no fun writing
neato games and hacker tearing them to bits a week
later.

A good encoder (and this is just me), should
not do simple mathematic XORs, but rely on the
internal workings of the computer, something so
unpredictable and untraceable that all computers
share.  This is the kind of encoding I'm talking
about.

If you can all promise not to run away and use
my ideas without giving me a tad of credit I'll
post an encryptor that I believe no-one can break,
not even me.  :)

I'm surprised I can come up with an encryptor
that is fairly easy to write and yet its
intracacies cannot be traced, ever.

I guess I'm glad it's not being used today or
some games and stuff I like I couldn't have enjoyed
as long as I have.  :)

Sincerely,
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Hi All!

I#ve been in trouble because I must have a horizontal slider in a
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List Member Vogel Michael <vo@schoeller.at> wrote:
Yepp,
but as you can see on the simple routine, it has a first (256-Byte or even
longer) and a second starting key which can be created dynamically, of
course, and has a permanently changing key, so the result can't display any
repeating patterns or can be used for statistical checks (number of "a",
"e",etc.).
So I think, that even that simple code will produce "perfect" crypting (for
text files at least, not for exe files which can be disassembled, etc.), but
if you have a nicer code, I'd like to have a look at it...
Michael

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> Von: 	David Wicker[SMTP:dw817@yahoo.com]
> Gesendet: 	Do, 09. Mrz 2000 15:19
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> 
> List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> --- Vogel Michael <vo@schoeller.at> wrote:
> > List Member Vogel Michael <vo@schoeller.at> wrote:
> > Come on, 
> > it was just a simple procedure, which can be easily
> > changed, for higher
> > security I'm using something like the following code
> > lines: (I don't
> > believe, that anyone can decode it without the
> > knowledge of the "magic" key)
> > 
> > Michael
> 
> Well you haven't been burned enough times by
> hackers in the past.  :/  It was no fun writing
> neato games and hacker tearing them to bits a week
> later.
> 
> A good encoder (and this is just me), should
> not do simple mathematic XORs, but rely on the
> internal workings of the computer, something so
> unpredictable and untraceable that all computers
> share.  This is the kind of encoding I'm talking
> about.
> 
> If you can all promise not to run away and use
> my ideas without giving me a tad of credit I'll
> post an encryptor that I believe no-one can break,
> not even me.  :)
> 
> I'm surprised I can come up with an encryptor
> that is fairly easy to write and yet its
> intracacies cannot be traced, ever.
> 
> I guess I'm glad it's not being used today or
> some games and stuff I like I couldn't have enjoyed
> as long as I have.  :)
> 
> Sincerely,
> David W.
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
HI David,
Char8 is very nice. Thanks
Dale

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> List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> --- Dale Bryant <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> > List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com>
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> > I sent him the directions again, the third time.
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> Greets Dale:
>
> I dunno maybe you shouldn't be too hard on them,
> they sound kinna like me and can't see something
> unless it's dangling off the tip o' their nose.  :)
>
> I program like this sometimes I think..
>
> Hey !  Did you like Char8 ?  Char16 will be used
> for all new menus.  I'm working out the technics
> inside GREDIT which will span first to update
> Jukebox.
>
> Sincerely,
> David W.
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--- Vogel Michael <vo@schoeller.at> wrote:
> List Member Vogel Michael <vo@schoeller.at> wrote:
> Yepp,
> but as you can see on the simple routine, it has a
> first (256-Byte or even
> longer) and a second starting key which can be
> created dynamically, of
> course, and has a permanently changing key, so the
> result can't display any
> repeating patterns or can be used for statistical
> checks (number of "a",
> "e",etc.).
> So I think, that even that simple code will produce
> "perfect" crypting (for
> text files at least, not for exe files which can be
> disassembled, etc.), but
> if you have a nicer code, I'd like to have a look at
> it...
> Michael

Well here it is Michael !  And this is for
everyone else too, Dale you may wanna see this !

I'll probably use something much
more complex than this in the future but it shows
how something inside the computer is traceable only
to it and not anywhere else.

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:


--- Dale Bryant <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com>
> wrote:
> HI David,
> Char8 is very nice. Thanks
> Dale

Hey !  Glad you like it !  I've been calling you
The Captain in all my email so I just thought I'd
let ya know !  ;)

If you want to, Char8 can replace ShowFont since it
is very unlikely I'll ever go back to vectors now
that I have gotten pixel graphics down pretty good.

Sincerely,
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List Member "Sjaak Aarnoutse" <aarnouts@zeelandnet.nl> wrote:
>From the Win31 API:


LB_SETHORIZONTALEXTENT
wParam = (WPARAM) cxExtent; /* horizontal scroll width */
lParam = 0L;                /* not used, must be zero  */

An application sends the LB_SETHORIZONTALEXTENT message to set the width, in pixels, by which a list box can be scrolled horizontally. If the size of the list box is smaller than this value, the horizontal scroll bar horizontally scrolls items in the list box. If the size of the list box is equal 
to or greater than this value, the horizontal scroll bar is hidden. 

Parameter	Description

cxExtent	Value of wParam. Specifies the number of pixels by which the list box can be scrolled. 

Returns

This message does not return a value. 

Comments

To respond to the LB_SETHORIZONTALEXTENT message, the list box must have been defined with the WS_HSCROLL
 style. 

By default, the horizontal extent of a list box is zero. Windows does not display the scroll bar unless the horizontal extent is set to a value greater than the width, in pixels, of the client area of the list box. 
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> I#ve been in trouble because I must have a horizontal slider in a
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--- Russell Hayward <russ@softhome.net> wrote:
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> No comment. :-)

You look positively peeved, Russell !  :)

Well, looks like I get to put your name in the
credits for Wind Chimes after all !  It's going
through a major overhaul and your WindowLock is
one change to it so the display will =DISPLAY=
always.

Send me that Bundle you got sometime too !

It's going to be a quiet weekend, my girlfriend
Rose needs this weekend to work.  (SIGH)

Sincerely,
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Subject: [gfabasic] Progress
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
For those interested in working w/ images...

John did a marvelous image lightener routine based on *.bmp.  It reads
the file, then paints a 2nd copy onscreen at some percentage lighter.

One of the effects I've been playing with conserns lightening dark images
& darkening light images.  Thank you very much, John... you made me think
deeper than the pills & I got there!  This dual process is now independent
of the actual graphic format... I am working onscreen, the idea being to
do all of this work offscreen, then blitting onscreen when finished.  I
am working w/ the actual screen image, pixel by pixel.  Yeah, it's slow as
all hell, but makes for some pretty interesting effects in it's own right.

No offense, Roland... I fell back to nviewl16.dll & Patrik's calls to do
this one.  I'm more familiar w/ this setup.

This demo will be uploaded to Dale, so... if you don't have the *.dll, you
will need to download that, too.  Or... you can always change over to your
own preferred display & image acquisition method.  The actual routine is
rather compact & ALL in one spot in the source.

This demo has an image with it... She's totally covered, so is not X-rated.
She was selected because she's 1/2-screen at 640x480 (I work here) & is very
dark, but has a fair color distribution.  For some reason I have only guesses
for at the moment, every 3rd or 4th iteration has incursions of GREEN!  I
am thinking this may be due to working w/ a 24-bit image on a 16-bit system.
I suppose these could be trapped & delt with, but I'm most interested in the
overall situation.

There are other effects in this... the cursor tracks progress (background
changes
do NOT always show to the eye).  Transparent text just didn't make it into this
one.  To darken images, subtract chaz& instead of adding.  Set your own rates.
<G>
TomR.

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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Hi Tom,
That sounds very interesting. I await!

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Subject: [gfabasic] Progress


> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> For those interested in working w/ images...
>
> John did a marvelous image lightener routine based on *.bmp.  It reads
> the file, then paints a 2nd copy onscreen at some percentage lighter.
>
> One of the effects I've been playing with conserns lightening dark images
> & darkening light images.  Thank you very much, John... you made me think
> deeper than the pills & I got there!  This dual process is now independent
> of the actual graphic format... I am working onscreen, the idea being to
> do all of this work offscreen, then blitting onscreen when finished.  I
> am working w/ the actual screen image, pixel by pixel.  Yeah, it's slow as
> all hell, but makes for some pretty interesting effects in it's own right.
>
> No offense, Roland... I fell back to nviewl16.dll & Patrik's calls to do
> this one.  I'm more familiar w/ this setup.
>
> This demo will be uploaded to Dale, so... if you don't have the *.dll, you
> will need to download that, too.  Or... you can always change over to your
> own preferred display & image acquisition method.  The actual routine is
> rather compact & ALL in one spot in the source.
>
> This demo has an image with it... She's totally covered, so is not
X-rated.
> She was selected because she's 1/2-screen at 640x480 (I work here) & is
very
> dark, but has a fair color distribution.  For some reason I have only
guesses
> for at the moment, every 3rd or 4th iteration has incursions of GREEN!  I
> am thinking this may be due to working w/ a 24-bit image on a 16-bit
system.
> I suppose these could be trapped & delt with, but I'm most interested in
the
> overall situation.
>
> There are other effects in this... the cursor tracks progress (background
> changes
> do NOT always show to the eye).  Transparent text just didn't make it into
this
> one.  To darken images, subtract chaz& instead of adding.  Set your own
rates.
> <G>
> TomR.
>
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--- Tom Record
<tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> For those interested in working w/ images...
> 
> John did a marvelous image lightener routine based
> on *.bmp.  It reads
> the file, then paints a 2nd copy onscreen at some
> percentage lighter.
> 
> One of the effects I've been playing with conserns
> lightening dark images
> & darkening light images.  Thank you very much,
> John... you made me think
> deeper than the pills & I got there!  This dual
> process is now independent
> of the actual graphic format... I am working
> onscreen, the idea being to
> do all of this work offscreen, then blitting
> onscreen when finished.  I
> am working w/ the actual screen image, pixel by
> pixel.  Yeah, it's slow as
> all hell, but makes for some pretty interesting
> effects in it's own right.
> 
> No offense, Roland... I fell back to nviewl16.dll &
> Patrik's calls to do
> this one.  I'm more familiar w/ this setup.
> 
> This demo will be uploaded to Dale, so... if you
> don't have the *.dll, you
> will need to download that, too.  Or... you can
> always change over to your
> own preferred display & image acquisition method. 
> The actual routine is
> rather compact & ALL in one spot in the source.
> 
> This demo has an image with it... She's totally
> covered, so is not X-rated.
> She was selected because she's 1/2-screen at 640x480
> (I work here) & is very
> dark, but has a fair color distribution.  For some
> reason I have only guesses
> for at the moment, every 3rd or 4th iteration has
> incursions of GREEN!  I
> am thinking this may be due to working w/ a 24-bit
> image on a 16-bit system.
> I suppose these could be trapped & delt with, but
> I'm most interested in the
> overall situation.
> 
> There are other effects in this... the cursor tracks
> progress (background
> changes
> do NOT always show to the eye).  Transparent text
> just didn't make it into this
> one.  To darken images, subtract chaz& instead of
> adding.  Set your own rates.
> <G>
> TomR.

Huum ?  What's the big deal ?  :)
Lighten an image:
FOR I=V1 TO V2
  FOR J=H1 TO H2
    C=GETPIXEL(_DC(1),J,I)
    R=MIN(GETRVALUE(C)+64,255)
    G=MIN(GETGVALUE(C)+64,255)
    B=MIN(GETVALUE(C)+64,255)
    ~SETPIXEL(_DC(1),J,I,RGB(R,G,B))
  NEXT J
NEXT I

Sample enclosed:

Now, if this is lightening an image solely with
PUT X,Y,BMP,<<copytype>>

Where  PUT  may be used several times and
Copytype varies as well, I'd be interested in
seeing the mathematics for this, it would have
to be true lightening, tho, not just OR which
doesn't work for every single color situation
to my knowledge.

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hey Tom !

I wouldn't mind having some lightener with my
Coffee !  Please post what you are doing so we can
see !

(
_)_
\_/)

^ That may look like a coffee cup if you're
using MONOSPACE typeface !  :P

Oh !  And WindChimes looks =FAR= better now,
uses WindowLock, and a lot of bugs fixed.

Nothing yet on the Aura player because Mr. Loock
needs to send me some stuff to show me how !
(He wrote me, he's just a busy guy like a lot of
 people)  :)

updated Mar. 9th, 2000
WINDCHIM.ZIP - 93532 bytes
http://www.geocities.com/dw817/gfabasic/windchim.zip

Also, Tom, if you have it, or anyone else, the
ability to lighten or darken an image entirely
with XOR, OR, AND, and related with the
GRAPHMODE command, I'd be very interested because
as a matter of fact I'm hooking Mantissa into
Gredit and it needs a quick way to darken or lighten
it.

Thanks !

Sincerely,
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>Huum ?  What's the big deal ?  :)
Well.... have been on this off & on a long time now & finally got
it to work!  *That* is the big deal.  10 zillion examples to play
with & never one that does what I want.  Many come close, few ever
hit the same nail I'm working on.
TomR.



At 06:33 PM 09/03/00 -0800, you wrote:
>
>
>--- Tom Record
><tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> List Member Tom Record
>> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> For those interested in working w/ images...
>> 
>> John did a marvelous image lightener routine based
>> on *.bmp.  It reads
>> the file, then paints a 2nd copy onscreen at some
>> percentage lighter.
>> 
>> One of the effects I've been playing with conserns
>> lightening dark images
>> & darkening light images.  Thank you very much,
>> John... you made me think
>> deeper than the pills & I got there!  This dual
>> process is now independent
>> of the actual graphic format... I am working
>> onscreen, the idea being to
>> do all of this work offscreen, then blitting
>> onscreen when finished.  I
>> am working w/ the actual screen image, pixel by
>> pixel.  Yeah, it's slow as
>> all hell, but makes for some pretty interesting
>> effects in it's own right.
>> 
>> No offense, Roland... I fell back to nviewl16.dll &
>> Patrik's calls to do
>> this one.  I'm more familiar w/ this setup.
>> 
>> This demo will be uploaded to Dale, so... if you
>> don't have the *.dll, you
>> will need to download that, too.  Or... you can
>> always change over to your
>> own preferred display & image acquisition method. 
>> The actual routine is
>> rather compact & ALL in one spot in the source.
>> 
>> This demo has an image with it... She's totally
>> covered, so is not X-rated.
>> She was selected because she's 1/2-screen at 640x480
>> (I work here) & is very
>> dark, but has a fair color distribution.  For some
>> reason I have only guesses
>> for at the moment, every 3rd or 4th iteration has
>> incursions of GREEN!  I
>> am thinking this may be due to working w/ a 24-bit
>> image on a 16-bit system.
>> I suppose these could be trapped & delt with, but
>> I'm most interested in the
>> overall situation.
>> 
>> There are other effects in this... the cursor tracks
>> progress (background
>> changes
>> do NOT always show to the eye).  Transparent text
>> just didn't make it into this
>> one.  To darken images, subtract chaz& instead of
>> adding.  Set your own rates.
>> <G>
>> TomR.
>
>Huum ?  What's the big deal ?  :)
>Lighten an image:
>FOR I=V1 TO V2
>  FOR J=H1 TO H2
>    C=GETPIXEL(_DC(1),J,I)
>    R=MIN(GETRVALUE(C)+64,255)
>    G=MIN(GETGVALUE(C)+64,255)
>    B=MIN(GETVALUE(C)+64,255)
>    ~SETPIXEL(_DC(1),J,I,RGB(R,G,B))
>  NEXT J
>NEXT I
>
>Sample enclosed:
>
>Now, if this is lightening an image solely with
>PUT X,Y,BMP,<<copytype>>
>
>Where  PUT  may be used several times and
>Copytype varies as well, I'd be interested in
>seeing the mathematics for this, it would have
>to be true lightening, tho, not just OR which
>doesn't work for every single color situation
>to my knowledge.
>
>Sincerely,
>David W.
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
David
Pardon, but I donno squat about working in graphmode.
That smacks of working in DOS & the ONLY reason *that*
is even on here is to allow Windows to run.  I have NO
experience w/ paint/draw, either.  Once I got onto a
PC, I did a few miraculous things (well, they were to
*ME*, anyway), & I lost all of what expertise I had in
DOS or TRSDOS or MACDOS.  Using XOR, et.al., for doing
gamma changes sounds a natural to me, but I'd suspect
it would amount to little difference in statements.

Dale has the file now... lite01b.zip - it'll be up
tomorrow, probably.  If you don't have lviewl16.dll, he 
has that, too.  I'm sure that there is a much faster way
accomplish the changes, but for my own satisfaction, I
do'em onscreen one pixel at a time.  John's method is a
fair bit faster, but he's working between the file, RAM,
& finally painting the image after it's done.  Mine is a 
column by column excursion into the twilight zone <G>.

I have a rectangular selection working already - so am
working on an irregular selection now - with the idea of 
lightening or darkening just selected portion(s) of an
image.  Others probably already have this capability (as
well as most of what I've already passed along), but as
I gain knowledge, I try to make it available to other
beginners.  Once I get a handle on *this* tidbit, I'll
give a try at cut/copy/paste.  I *think* knowing something
about handling sprites will come in handy on *that* one.

Would you like a MS font editor?  I have a 50M site now,
so I think I'm going to move everything from my WebJump
site to it so I can expand a little.
<G>
TomR.



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>List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Hey Tom !
>
>I wouldn't mind having some lightener with my
>Coffee !  Please post what you are doing so we can
>see !
>
>(
>_)_
>\_/)
>
>^ That may look like a coffee cup if you're
>using MONOSPACE typeface !  :P
>
>Oh !  And WindChimes looks =FAR= better now,
>uses WindowLock, and a lot of bugs fixed.
>
>Nothing yet on the Aura player because Mr. Loock
>needs to send me some stuff to show me how !
>(He wrote me, he's just a busy guy like a lot of
> people)  :)
>
>updated Mar. 9th, 2000
>WINDCHIM.ZIP - 93532 bytes
>http://www.geocities.com/dw817/gfabasic/windchim.zip
>
>Also, Tom, if you have it, or anyone else, the
>ability to lighten or darken an image entirely
>with XOR, OR, AND, and related with the
>GRAPHMODE command, I'd be very interested because
>as a matter of fact I'm hooking Mantissa into
>Gredit and it needs a quick way to darken or lighten
>it.
>
>Thanks !
>
>Sincerely,
>David W.
>
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:


--- Tom Record
<tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> David
> Pardon, but I donno squat about working in
> graphmode.
> That smacks of working in DOS & the ONLY reason
> *that*
> is even on here is to allow Windows to run.  I have

Nono..  It doesn't change resolution or anything,
it just means when you plot with dots, lines,
rectangles, or ellipses, it uses what is entered
into GraphMode.  I.E.:

GRAPHMODE R2_XORPEN
RGBCOLOR RGB(255,255,255)
CIRCLE 50,50,50
^ Would invert a circle on the screen

GRAPHMODE R2_MERGEPEN
RGBCOLOR RGB(128,0,128)
PBOX 0,0,63,63
^ Would add the 8th bit in this square only
  for the Red & Blue color guns

See ?  It's good stuff !  No, not changing screens
or anything.  That's DirectX and I ain't gonna go
there !  :)

I answered some other stuff below too..

> NO
> experience w/ paint/draw, either.  Once I got onto a
> PC, I did a few miraculous things (well, they were
> to
> *ME*, anyway), & I lost all of what expertise I had
> in
> DOS or TRSDOS or MACDOS.  Using XOR, et.al., for
> doing
> gamma changes sounds a natural to me, but I'd
> suspect
> it would amount to little difference in statements.
> 
> Dale has the file now... lite01b.zip - it'll be up
> tomorrow, probably.  If you don't have lviewl16.dll,

What does Lview116 do ?  I'm =VERY= new to this DLL
stuff and only have knowledge currently on what
Mr. Loock showed me.

> he 
> has that, too.  I'm sure that there is a much faster
> way
> accomplish the changes, but for my own satisfaction,
> I
> do'em onscreen one pixel at a time.  John's method

If you're changing a pixel at a time, is it kinna
like the demo I sent, "lightner.zip"
in prior message ?

> is a
> fair bit faster, but he's working between the file,
> RAM,
> & finally painting the image after it's done.  Mine
> is a 
> column by column excursion into the twilight zone
> <G>.

Then I guess I have to ask, how can I modify the
contents of a BITMAP before I display it by changing
memory contents ?  If I can learn this, I could
write some very good software that updates the entire
screen rapid-flash for all kinds of good effects,
Fire for instance, and Frost being another.

> 
> I have a rectangular selection working already - so
> am
> working on an irregular selection now - with the
> idea of 
> lightening or darkening just selected portion(s) of
> an
> image.  Others probably already have this capability
> (as
> well as most of what I've already passed along), but
> as
> I gain knowledge, I try to make it available to
> other
> beginners.  Once I get a handle on *this* tidbit,
> I'll
> give a try at cut/copy/paste.  I *think* knowing
> something
> about handling sprites will come in handy on *that*
> one.

To my knowledge there are no true hardware sprites
on the IBM-pc.  Commodore Amiga allowed 16 hardware
sprites but they were awfully limited..  Best to make
your own.  :)

> 
> Would you like a MS font editor?  I have a 50M site

Does that allow you to make TrueType Fonts ?
Currently Char8 was made in my Gredit.

> now,
> so I think I'm going to move everything from my
> WebJump
> site to it so I can expand a little.
> <G>
> TomR.

Tom, I'm not sure I've been to your site yet.
There was one that had a lot of help files, but I'm
looking for a site that shows good programming with
example source, preferably not in C++ cause I can't
really follow that stuff !  :)

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Dale has the file now... lite01b.zip - it'll be up
> tomorrow, probably.

Oh Yeah Dale !  Let's see some new stuff !
+ Tom's Lightener
+ Char8
+ Update on Windchimes
+ MyEncryptor
+ Lightener (but only if it's useful!) :)

And is there a way to add or subtract brightness
levels by 1 RGB with OR, AND, XOR, and related ?

If you use:
GRAPHMODE R2_MASKPEN
FOR I=255 TO 0 STEP -1
  RGBCOLOR RGB(I,I,I)
  PBOX 0,0,_X,_Y
  PAUSE 1
EXIT IF INKEY$ > ""
NEXT I

It doesn't do it 100% correctly.
Any ideas GUYS (and Gals out there) ?  :)

Sincerely,
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Updates for today on http://gfawhelp.gfa.net
*************************
LITE018.ZIP by Tom Record. Great utility for lightening graphic images. Most
formats supported.
CHAR8.ZIP by David Wicker . Very nice font demo.
LIGHTNER.ZIP by David Wicker. Demo of lightening a image. Image is self
generated.
*************************
Thanks Tom and David.

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
At 04:50 AM 10/03/00 -0800, you wrote:
>List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>--- Tom Record
><tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> List Member Tom Record
>> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> David
>> Pardon, but I donno squat about working in
>> graphmode.
>> That smacks of working in DOS & the ONLY reason
>> *that*
>> is even on here is to allow Windows to run.  I have
>
>Nono..  It doesn't change resolution or anything,
>it just means when you plot with dots, lines,
>rectangles, or ellipses, it uses what is entered
>into GraphMode.  I.E.:
>
>GRAPHMODE R2_XORPEN
>RGBCOLOR RGB(255,255,255)
>CIRCLE 50,50,50
>^ Would invert a circle on the screen
>
>GRAPHMODE R2_MERGEPEN
>RGBCOLOR RGB(128,0,128)
>PBOX 0,0,63,63
>^ Would add the 8th bit in this square only
>  for the Red & Blue color guns
>
>See ?  It's good stuff !  No, not changing screens
>or anything.  That's DirectX and I ain't gonna go
>there !  :)
>

STILL 'way over my head.  I went from TRSDOS Basic to MS BASIC II to Windows.
Haven't looked back from Windows, don't really wanna.  Am doing well to absorb
as much as I am.


>I answered some other stuff below too..
>
>> NO
>> experience w/ paint/draw, either.  Once I got onto a
>> PC, I did a few miraculous things (well, they were
>> to
>> *ME*, anyway), & I lost all of what expertise I had
>> in
>> DOS or TRSDOS or MACDOS.  Using XOR, et.al., for
>> doing
>> gamma changes sounds a natural to me, but I'd
>> suspect
>> it would amount to little difference in statements.
>> 
>> Dale has the file now... lite01b.zip - it'll be up
>> tomorrow, probably.  If you don't have lviewl16.dll,
>
>What does Lview116 do ?  I'm =VERY= new to this DLL
>stuff and only have knowledge currently on what
>Mr. Loock showed me.
>

lviewl16.dll is a multi-image format access executable.  You can load
*.bmp, *.gif, *.dib, *.jif, *.jpg & *.pcx, & save *.jpg.  It's a freebie, 
looks like it's never gonna be expanded.  Is 16-bit.

>
>> he 
>> has that, too.  I'm sure that there is a much faster
>> way
>> accomplish the changes, but for my own satisfaction,
>> I
>> do'em onscreen one pixel at a time.  John's method
>
>If you're changing a pixel at a time, is it kinna
>like the demo I sent, "lightner.zip"
>in prior message ?
>

Shamefully, must say I haven't even looked.  Get John's routine from Dale.
He does his in memory... you ask this below, I think.

>
>> is a
>> fair bit faster, but he's working between the file,
>> RAM,
>> & finally painting the image after it's done.  Mine
>> is a 
>> column by column excursion into the twilight zone
>> <G>.
>
>Then I guess I have to ask, how can I modify the
>contents of a BITMAP before I display it by changing
>memory contents ?  If I can learn this, I could
>write some very good software that updates the entire
>screen rapid-flash for all kinds of good effects,
>Fire for instance, and Frost being another.
>
>> 
>> I have a rectangular selection working already - so
>> am
>> working on an irregular selection now - with the
>> idea of 
>> lightening or darkening just selected portion(s) of
>> an
>> image.  Others probably already have this capability
>> (as
>> well as most of what I've already passed along), but
>> as
>> I gain knowledge, I try to make it available to
>> other
>> beginners.  Once I get a handle on *this* tidbit,
>> I'll
>> give a try at cut/copy/paste.  I *think* knowing
>> something
>> about handling sprites will come in handy on *that*
>> one.
>
>To my knowledge there are no true hardware sprites
>on the IBM-pc.  Commodore Amiga allowed 16 hardware
>sprites but they were awfully limited..  Best to make
>your own.  :)
>

Wouldn't know a hardware sprite from a sugar sprite <G>.  Games,
paint, draw... have stayed away from these since TRS80 days.


>> 
>> Would you like a MS font editor?  I have a 50M site
>
>Does that allow you to make TrueType Fonts ?
>Currently Char8 was made in my Gredit.
>

Will send.  Donno, but see little reason to think NOT TTF.

>
>> now,
>> so I think I'm going to move everything from my
>> WebJump
>> site to it so I can expand a little.
>> <G>
>> TomR.
>
>Tom, I'm not sure I've been to your site yet.
>There was one that had a lot of help files, but I'm
>looking for a site that shows good programming with
>example source, preferably not in C++ cause I can't
>really follow that stuff !  :)
>

*That* was me.  Go to Roland's site for nearly all that has ever
been posted publicly.  Much is crap (the GURUs have a tendency to
not uncover the fact most of their conversions from GFA-DOS do NOT
actually run in Windows).

Renner's site seems to persist on others', but as far as I know, *that*
site hasn't been updated in 3 yrs or so & may not exist now.

Joe Hurst used to have a very good site for samples.

If you don't have it, get Dale's helpfile.  There is a ton of B.S. in it,
but 5 or 6 tons of good stuff.  Again, many don't work as-is, but have
a lot of good ideas.

Then, there's always the GFA site.  Pete & RePete were walking along the
street.  Pete fell down, who was left?

Hamstra's book is focused on *.bmp, but there are a ton of other, more
valid things to play & work with.  Lots of clock-stoppers since much of
what you can find all over the net would seem to have originated there.

The ONLY valid 8-bit *.bmp save is in Eberhard's image editor on Dale's
site.  Eberhard speaks "C", tho!

>
>Sincerely,
>David W.
>

<G>
TomR.

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:


--- Dale Bryant <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com>
> wrote:
> Updates for today on http://gfawhelp.gfa.net
> *************************
> LITE018.ZIP by Tom Record. Great utility for
> lightening graphic images. Most
> formats supported.
> CHAR8.ZIP by David Wicker . Very nice font demo.
> LIGHTNER.ZIP by David Wicker. Demo of lightening a
> image. Image is self
> generated.
> *************************
> Thanks Tom and David.

Greets Dale:

Nono..  I didn't want Lightner to be part of the
list - I don't want Tom to think I was competing or
anything, I just read lightening and that is exactly
what I was programming into Gredit.

Tom is quite advanced from me since he can read
.JPGs into GFA !  I'll have to see what's all going
on here but that's light years ahead of me !

Wow Great Job Tom !  Ahhm, if you change your
preference from dark meat to Cinnamon, let me know
and I'll send a few snaps your way !  :)

Wind Chimes did get updated tho Dale if you wanna
reflect that !  :)

WHAT'S NEW ?
  Mar 9th, 2000 * After multiple comparisons,
WindowLock is the =ONLY= way to go !
                + Thanks Russell !  You're in the
credits now !  (WHEW!)
                + Lots of clean-up work and removing
dead coding
                + Installed Char8 for nicer menu
appearance
                + Made quick GLOBAL variable for
WHOOSH or not

 Feb 28th, 2000 * Added some useful comments in
critical parts of the code
                + Placing in corner reveals buttons
only, this was a lotta work !
                + Removed complex refresh in place of
Russell's AlwaysOnTopWindow
                + Added >Click!< for any corner window
selection


http://www.geocities.com/dw817/gfabasic/windchim.zip

Save Bitmap I think is useful too, very easy to read
code.  Lemme know what you think !

http://www.geocities.com/dw817/gfabasic/savebmp.zip

MyEncryptor might be useful for those trying to
write a foolproof and failsafe security system
that is untrackable and untraceable.

(It was uploaded in a prior post)

Melt demonstrates good use of plotting solely to
the Windows main screen irregardless of other
active windows.

Lightner isn't good enough to be in the list !
It was a quick hack cause I was working just in
that area.  If you really think it's good, you can
leave it, but wait until I get bitmaps that peel in
3-D space on and off the screen.  I can do this if
I can ever find something fast enough to update the
screen at least 1/20th of a second for every single
pixel updated.

KillMouse makes use of your own change the image for
a mouse prompt to NULL.  Useful for those who really
don't want the mouse to be visible when within their
own GFA window.

Bit8To7 got sped up at least 1.5x faster !
I wanted you to check the speed on it, but I really
think it's about 2x faster !  Using more intelligent
programming.

Dale, if you need any of these or cannot find the
upgrades/originals please let me know and I'll send
them direct.

I'm ready to work on a thunderstorm simulator and
Aura for Wind Chimes but I need the info on first
from Mr. Loock.  I may plunk down and figure it out
myself but I won't be a happy camper.  :)

Tom, my sister's keeper is teaching me the evils of
DOS and the virtues of Windows.  I'm torturing myself
quite thoroughly by using only Windows Explorer to
manipulate files and WinZip instead of PKZIP.

Aggh !!  So much stuff to remember !  And I =REALLY=
hate the mouse !  I've gotten everything down to
keyboard except a few things:

Does anyone know how to select items on the desktop
if you are already active in another window ?

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> prefer mine black, moderately weak

Hey !  You're the one that can read in .JPGs !
Great job !  Maybe you should be called
Tom The Tiger !  :)

> Haven't looked back from Windows, don't really
> wanna.  Am doing well to absorb
> as much as I am.

Well checkout Qbasic sometime !  It's why I kept
programming and didn't hang up my Programmer's
Cape like I was intending 10 years ago !
Naturally well just GFA blows QB all away !  :)

> Dale has the file now... lite01b.zip - it'll be up
> tomorrow, probably.  If you don't have
> lviewl16.dll,

I just now downloaded Llview116.dll.  Most
interesting !  The ability to read in .JPG files !
If it's complete and can save them as well, I can
=FINALLY= make my decent .JPG picture cruncher I've
been wanting !

> but for my own satisfaction, I do'em onscreen one
> pixel at a time.

I'll be honest with you, it was =REALLY= slow over
here and it kinna took over my mouse pointer too and
dragged it along with the drawing, I had to hit
<CTRL><BRK> to exit.

> Shamefully, must say I haven't even looked.  Get
> John's routine from Dale.

Yah well check it out sometime !  No, I'm not
competing against you or anything, it's crazy but
when you posted that I just got through writing a
lightener in Gredit so I had it fresh in my mind
when I wrote it.  If there's some way to plot faster
than ~setpixel I'd like to know !  It does half
the screen on my computer in half a second, not too
bad but still too slow for decent pixel manipulation
animation.

> He does his in memory... you ask this below, I
> think.

Yes !  I've figured out a sneaky way to have
wraparound bitmaps for effects like fog lighting
and rain which will be wanted in Scenario's
environment generator.  Yah Scenario is going to
=OBSESS= my entire life now !  :)

> Wouldn't know a hardware sprite from a sugar sprite
> <G>.  Games,
> paint, draw... have stayed away from these since
> TRS80 days.

Hey !  Don't do that !  Checkout Lunar Silver Star
The Final Story for the Playstation for instance !
=JUST= finished playing it yesterday, total time,
about 50 days in real time.  Very nice !  It's games
like these I'm hoping people can write with Scenario.

For IBM fare, check out SNES emulator such as ZSNES,
and getchuur copy of Final Fantasy Mystic Quest.
This is =REALLY= a good beginning game for people
who are trying out RPGs for the first time.
Both of these can be downloaded off the next, just
do a search for them !

> ZSNES DOWNLOAD SNES
> SNES rom Final Fantasy Mystic Quest rpg

Enter them in that way in just about any search
engine and you'll get the good stuff !  :)

> Will send.  Donno, but see little reason to think
> NOT TTF.

Waiting for a copy or URL ...  :?

> *That* was me.  Go to Roland's site for nearly all
> that has ever
> been posted publicly.  Much is crap (the GURUs have
> a tendency to
> not uncover the fact most of their conversions from
> GFA-DOS do NOT
> actually run in Windows).

Geesh !  I always check my stuff before posting !
What is it me and maybe 2 other people posting
regularly in GFA !  It's an incredible language folks
and your dreams are awaiting !  :)

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
David
Don't fret jealousy.  Yours is faster because you are making one
half-pass on a smaller image w/ fewer color masses.  Otherwise,
we did just about the same thing.  Only after getting mine to
work was I able to see how the example I started with was supposed
to work.

Sorry mine takes more time than you want to allow - you can easily
alter that.  Because it isn't always apparent where the thing is
on the sweep across the image, I hooked the cursor to the working
column so I could see where it was in each trip.  I intended for the
final text display to be transparent but lost track of what I had 
worked out for that.  *This* is where I think sprite-work would be
of some help.

I have some stuff in "C" for morph & warp if you want to play w/ it.
I sent it to Roland to play with.  I forgot what I was supposed to
send you.
<G>
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:


--- Tom Record
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> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> David
> Don't fret jealousy.  Yours is faster because you
> are making one
> half-pass on a smaller image w/ fewer color masses. 
> Otherwise,
> we did just about the same thing.  Only after
> getting mine to
> work was I able to see how the example I started
> with was supposed
> to work.
> 
> Sorry mine takes more time than you want to allow -
> you can easily
> alter that.  Because it isn't always apparent where
> the thing is
> on the sweep across the image, I hooked the cursor
> to the working
> column so I could see where it was in each trip.  I
> intended for the
> final text display to be transparent but lost track
> of what I had 
> worked out for that.  *This* is where I think
> sprite-work would be
> of some help.
> 
> I have some stuff in "C" for morph & warp if you
> want to play w/ it.
> I sent it to Roland to play with.  I forgot what I
> was supposed to
> send you.
> <G>
> TomR.

Regarding seeing where the cursor is in the scanning
process, you can use a technique like I did in SAVE
Bitmap.  I used XOR a white scanner line so you can
easily see where it's at.

Regarding jealousy stuff--
No problem there.  I don't know why Dale posted
my lightener, it's a quick hack and not worth the
air space.  My head was on lighteners when I read it
so it applied to me.  :)  Now Dale should post my
Save BITMAP thingie cause that is cool code !

But man that was so =NEAT= the way your program
loaded in a .JPG !  Ahhm, I can't understand like
any of it so I'll read some of the help with the
.DLL !  :)

Regarding morph & warp, do you have something to
tilt a bitmap where the top of it is smaller across
<---> and longer across <-------------> at the
bottom ?
    __
   /  \
  /    \
 /______\

The effect ?  You could use bitmap images to plot
pseudo-3D terrains !  You could add 3D walls if you
can tilt it like:
   
   /|
  / |
 /  |
|   |
 \  |
  \ |
   \|

Also, I like Russell's WindowLock but I almost have
to power down my computer if I hit an error or two
writing code, that is, I don't free the
Display Channel stuff he's doing..  Not good.

I can use this:
DEFINT "A-Z"
OPENW 1,_X\2-200,_Y\2-150,400,300,0
ON ERROR GOSUB BadNews
Blagh
' ^ This is unknown so its an error
END
PROCEDURE BadNews
ON ERROR
RETURN

. . .

Now, this program will CLEANLY close out the window
we opened (for instance, suppose it took memory like
DC), when it hits an error.

The "ON ERROR" by itself says to go ahead and report
errors now,

But the cursor is not shifted to the correct place
after returning the error message !

Any ideas ?  Right now I'm doing it without error
checking which isn't good because when I hit an error,
I mess up Win98 DC pointer buffer memory dynamic
overlay link stuff and I have to reboot often..

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Information !  Yah I watch too much Blake's 7
British Sci-Fi, okay !  :)

The Truth:
GFABasic cannot deal with any main program,
procedure, or function bigger than 32k.

The Problem:
Bit8To7 can only merge up to about 100 lines down
before it says  ERROR 122, which isn't very
descriptive but that's what ERR$(122) calls it too !

The Solution:
A curious one but easy !  Create an unused
PROCEDURE like this, note, using {label} and colon
":" for your RESTORE {label} statements is perfectly
okay anywhere in your data !

PROCEDURE Data0100
RETURN
Biggo50k_Gif_Data:
DATA . . .
. . .
(100 lines of data or so, 240 char. across)
!!! If you add much more here GFABasic will either
crash of give error 122 !
PROCEDURE Data0200
RETURN
' ^ Now it's happy again !  :)
DATA . . .
. . .
(another 100 lines or so, ad infinitum!)

The Results:
You can have,

RESTORE Label
FOR I=1 TO 500
  READ A$
NEXT I

Try it !  It works great !

Hope This Helps some people out there with fat
data files !

Is there a limit to the # of PROCEDUREs, and
FUNCTIONs you can have staying within 1,000 total
line limit ?

Sincerely,
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>
>Regarding seeing where the cursor is in the scanning
>process, you can use a technique like I did in SAVE
>Bitmap.  I used XOR a white scanner line so you can
>easily see where it's at.
>

Neat idea!

>
>Regarding jealousy stuff--
>No problem there.  I don't know why Dale posted
>my lightener, it's a quick hack and not worth the
>air space.  My head was on lighteners when I read it
>so it applied to me.  :)  Now Dale should post my
>Save BITMAP thingie cause that is cool code !
>

Jeeze, to be able to rip off something that way.  AM JEALOUS! <G>
Don't fault Dale - he posts everything that comes his way, which
sometimes means there's at least 2 similar but different ways to 
do something.  I'll watch for the bitmap save.

>
>But man that was so =NEAT= the way your program
>loaded in a .JPG !  Ahhm, I can't understand like
>any of it so I'll read some of the help with the
>.DLL !  :)
>

It's all in that *.dll.  If you are interested in *just* *.jpg, you
should play w/ Roland's *.dll &/or *.lib.  The lib can $LNK in at
compile, so you don't have to carry anything else around but images &
even *those* can be $LNKed in a *.res file.  No external baggage.

Roland is working on a *.res compiler.  I can sometimes get it to work,
but sometimes it's a bomb.  My own *.rc generator does the same thing.
What compiles right w/ Borland, doesn't w/ AppStudio & vice versa.
Things I play with from others flies thru both!  VERSINFO is another
important feature in a *.res file that I'm trying to work in.  Installers
use it to check for newer/older modules already on the computer it's
installing to.  If you look inside an executable, you also see who really
wrote it - usually.

>
>Regarding morph & warp, do you have something to
>tilt a bitmap where the top of it is smaller across
><---> and longer across <-------------> at the
>bottom ?
>    __
>   /  \
>  /    \
> /______\
>
>The effect ?  You could use bitmap images to plot
>pseudo-3D terrains !  You could add 3D walls if you
>can tilt it like:
>   
>   /|
>  / |
> /  |
>|   |
> \  |
>  \ |
>   \|
>
>

OK - ya got me hangin here for the moment, but I know it's possible.
Warp is a 1-image situation most of the time.  You set up the conditions
for what you want the result to be.  Morph, on the other hand, is the
conversion of one image into another.  Both can be made to spit out some
number of images as they progress from A to Z.  These are animated (linked
together) to make *.fli, *.flc, etc.  I do a lot of this, but NOT in GFA-W(16).

I have a lot of capability here, but am having hell trying to pack it all into
a single GFA-W(16) program of my own.  I can take *.mpg all the way to *.fli
or *.avi, *.avi to *.fli or *.mpg, etc.  I'm trying to work out some form of
recognition to break out the images in *.rm & *.ram.  I have a hunch I'm digging
into codec stuff with it & also a "differences" situation.  Those files are
tiny,
given what takes place.  If frame 2 is the same as frame 1 except... then
frame 2
will contain only what is different... & so on.  I can't make sense out of
any of
the image formats I have data on.  Even the *.gif animations don't seem to
follow
the flippin rules.

To do very much of what you describe above requires a ton of VRAM if very much
goes on at a time or you want transitions to be smooth.

>
>Also, I like Russell's WindowLock but I almost have
>to power down my computer if I hit an error or two
>writing code, that is, I don't free the
>Display Channel stuff he's doing..  Not good.
>

Any time I spend much time on here playing w/ GFA-W(16), I have to reboot
to clear it's throat!  It's probably from not freeing EVERYTHING in a timely 
manner.  I try to not do anything that causes that.

>
>I can use this:
>DEFINT "A-Z"
>OPENW 1,_X\2-200,_Y\2-150,400,300,0
>ON ERROR GOSUB BadNews
>Blagh
>' ^ This is unknown so its an error
>END
>PROCEDURE BadNews
>ON ERROR
>RETURN
>
>. . .
>
>Now, this program will CLEANLY close out the window
>we opened (for instance, suppose it took memory like
>DC), when it hits an error.
>
>The "ON ERROR" by itself says to go ahead and report
>errors now,
>
>But the cursor is not shifted to the correct place
>after returning the error message !
>
>Any ideas ?  Right now I'm doing it without error
>checking which isn't good because when I hit an error,
>I mess up Win98 DC pointer buffer memory dynamic
>overlay link stuff and I have to reboot often..
>
>Sincerely,
>David W.
>

I'm running Win95a on this one, Win3.1 on the 486.  I have only 8M
of RAM on the 486, w/ .5M VRAM.  This P-100 has 24M RAM & 1M VRAM.
The 486 doesn't shell out nearly as frequently as this one does.
It doesn't have a Reset or Reboot button, either.

May drop in on you in Oct... dotter #2 is getting married at Dennison
during that month & dotter #1 lives at Bowie.  Her hubby is the computer
system caretaker at some outfit in FtW.

Nearing 6 in the a.m... time to pill down & go to bed.
<G>
TomR.

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Read below and replying:

> Neat idea!

Naah, not really..  I've never had such programming
power before.  I'm having trouble starting to write
Scenario cause it looks like GFA has oodles more
memory.  I've already written a Crystal Glass routine
that very rapidly makes use of a hidden bitmap for
its "texture" and plots out currently square crystal
windows with lighted edges that are lighter than the
inside.  The effect ?  Looks like Wild Arm for the
Playstation or Breath of Fire for the SNES.

Yah I live sleep eat RPGs !  :)

Scenario reached v0.1 completion on QBasic because of
the extreme limitations I had.  Since it's like there
are =NO= limitations now I wanna restructure
everything all over !

There's some really not good picture programs out and
one thing I'm =DEFINITELY= gonna do is make my own
file browser for bitmaps where you pop the crystal
cursor over the filename and it >Blink!< shows a
small version of it lightning fast.  GFA loads
and shows bitmaps very rapidly so this is going to be
part of Gredit !

.JPGs and .GIFs load =WAY= too slow in that .DLL
thingie.  Also, I need =MANY= more options to save
a .JPG besides quality, what about Image Quantization,
Decoding Method, Restart Interval, and the big 4
Sample Slots not to mention Pixel Interleave
factor ??  With these you can effectively take 1meg
pictures and snap 'em down to 20 or 10k with little
loss of clarity.  (Yah I've =REALLY= studied hard at
crunching .JPGs cause I like my OrienTail photos and
Hentai so much I got bunchies !)  :)

To save a .JPG really really good you're gonna want
all of these, and that .DLL doesn't cover them.
Is there a .DLL that has =ALL= of these options and
more for saving a .JPG ?  That I could use !  :)
Until then, it's bitmaps all the way.

Gredit is my own personal graphic tool, nope, not
even gonna release the .EXE, but LowBlur and
that graphic file thingie I'll put out.

> Jeeze, to be able to rip off something that way.  AM
> JEALOUS! <G>

Hey !  Give Russel some credit !  He wrote this super
neat cool game and he thinks its crap we all need to
cheer him on to post it !  He's not hiding the source
or anything he just thinks its not good programming
or something.  Russell taught me ~setpixel and that
SETDC thingie, I just kinna took it from there !  :)

> It's all in that *.dll.  If you are interested in
> *just* *.jpg, you
> should play w/ Roland's *.dll &/or *.lib.  The lib
> can $LNK in at

Ouch !  You just went over my head..  I'll want
.GIF too if possible and the .GIF needs to have
lossy compression, max distance pixels spacing,
transparency, animation, and stuff.  Or you're just
going to save a .GIF that's bigger or less useful then
what was read in !

> Roland is working on a *.res compiler.  I can
> sometimes get it to work,
> but sometimes it's a bomb.  My own *.rc generator

>Plink!<  Waaay over my head.  I'm still trying to
figure out .DLLs.  I "read" your source code to your
lightener, I use that word lightly cause I can't
figure out too much in it.  Everybody writes C++
stuff am I the only write easy to understand coding ??
My QBasic friends aren't leaving QB cause they said
GFA is too hard !  I think they downloaded sourcecode
from some others and yah it is just bout impossible
to read.  Not blaming you guys but you sure like
C++ !  :)

> OK - ya got me hangin here for the moment, but I
> know it's possible.
> Warp is a 1-image situation most of the time.

The tilted squares I did above are called MODE 7
graphics like for the SNES emulator.  Download
ZSNES sometime and a really old game for it
F-Zero to see MODE 7 in royal action !  :)

Well why mess with all of that RC Cola stuff when
you can use DATA !  It's how I've always programmed.
If it's a really fat data file, make it an external
binary.  Remember, you can easily encrypt binary
files with MyCryptor and I'd =REALLY= like to see
someone break that code open !  :)

> To do very much of what you describe above requires
> a ton of VRAM

Really ??  I can't figure out why no-one in kingdom
come hasn't made a programming language that gives
you infinite everything.  Just use your hard-drive
space if you're doing fat stuff, and it's a =SHAME=
that there is not one single programming language
out that doesn't emulate beyond the 32k 64k max size
of a procedure/function/routine.  Emulate it folks !!
That's all it would take.  See my post on DATA to
jump around reading more hundreds of data lines !
Cheap shot way to get around it, GFA you coulda
emulated beyond 32k !

Well, I've plonked down to (FIXED) resolution screen
size of 418x290.  Any games and non-screen-teasers I
write will use =JUST= this resolution.  There's a
method to this madness and you'll see once I finally
get around to writing Fruit Frenzy.  I got a good
picture of a buncha fruit spilling out of a corn
horn or something CornCopious or something..

> Any time I spend much time on here playing w/
> GFA-W(16), I have to reboot
> to clear it's throat!  It's probably from not
> freeing EVERYTHING in a timely 
> manner.  I try to not do anything that causes that.

Maaan !  That's awful, my puter's so slow rebooting !
Oh and I got GFA installed on my laptop finally !
Yoow it's 20mhz so WindChimes goes clink clink clink
for about a minute !  Waay to slow, if I stick only
with B&W tiles for my laptop though it's really
fast !  I've already hooked in my bitmap saver for
Gredit but would not mind using something that does
it in a fraction of a second.  My laptop it takes
15 seconds to save off a window, main computer,
1 second <-- still way too slow for the =GOOD= stuff !

> I'm running Win95a on this one, Win3.1 on the 486. 
> I have only 8M

Betcha can't beat my laptop !  20mhz, Win3.1,
B&W screen only and 60meg Hard-driver period !  :)

I remember when I wrote DOOMSDAY off a single 360k
floppy when Telegard went down.  Maaan I stayed up
like 6am in the morning but when I was done, I had
written a BBS in =1= day's time that allowed
user logins/passwords, email, public message base,
feedback, and file access !  That was neat !
=THAT'S= how easy it is to program in QBasic !

> May drop in on you in Oct... dotter #2 is getting
> married at Dennison
> during that month & dotter #1 lives at Bowie.  Her
> hubby is the computer
> system caretaker at some outfit in FtW.

Ohh ?  Near my Dad's ?  I live a short clip from there
but I don't like getting mail here cause it's a shared
mailbox, guess who doesn't get their videogame mag
subscription here !!!  I forward address to my Dad's
now and comes out great !

> 
> Nearing 6 in the a.m... time to pill down & go to
> bed.

Yah you've hadda rough time !  Geesh I've had so many
head injuries surprised I can't put a spoon in one
ear and pull out fresh Rice Pudding to nibble on !

I'm gonna send a few cinnamon pix your way too and
get you out of your chocolates !  :)

C-ya !

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Listen, you guys, this is Saturday and you are sure tasking my brain with
this stuff.  I'm going back to farming!

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> List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Read below and replying:
>
> > Neat idea!
>
> Naah, not really..  I've never had such programming
> power before.  I'm having trouble starting to write
> Scenario cause it looks like GFA has oodles more
> memory.  I've already written a Crystal Glass routine
> that very rapidly makes use of a hidden bitmap for
> its "texture" and plots out currently square crystal
> windows with lighted edges that are lighter than the
> inside.  The effect ?  Looks like Wild Arm for the
> Playstation or Breath of Fire for the SNES.
>
> Yah I live sleep eat RPGs !  :)
>
> Scenario reached v0.1 completion on QBasic because of
> the extreme limitations I had.  Since it's like there
> are =NO= limitations now I wanna restructure
> everything all over !
>
> There's some really not good picture programs out and
> one thing I'm =DEFINITELY= gonna do is make my own
> file browser for bitmaps where you pop the crystal
> cursor over the filename and it >Blink!< shows a
> small version of it lightning fast.  GFA loads
> and shows bitmaps very rapidly so this is going to be
> part of Gredit !
>
> .JPGs and .GIFs load =WAY= too slow in that .DLL
> thingie.  Also, I need =MANY= more options to save
> a .JPG besides quality, what about Image Quantization,
> Decoding Method, Restart Interval, and the big 4
> Sample Slots not to mention Pixel Interleave
> factor ??  With these you can effectively take 1meg
> pictures and snap 'em down to 20 or 10k with little
> loss of clarity.  (Yah I've =REALLY= studied hard at
> crunching .JPGs cause I like my OrienTail photos and
> Hentai so much I got bunchies !)  :)
>
> To save a .JPG really really good you're gonna want
> all of these, and that .DLL doesn't cover them.
> Is there a .DLL that has =ALL= of these options and
> more for saving a .JPG ?  That I could use !  :)
> Until then, it's bitmaps all the way.
>
> Gredit is my own personal graphic tool, nope, not
> even gonna release the .EXE, but LowBlur and
> that graphic file thingie I'll put out.
>
> > Jeeze, to be able to rip off something that way.  AM
> > JEALOUS! <G>
>
> Hey !  Give Russel some credit !  He wrote this super
> neat cool game and he thinks its crap we all need to
> cheer him on to post it !  He's not hiding the source
> or anything he just thinks its not good programming
> or something.  Russell taught me ~setpixel and that
> SETDC thingie, I just kinna took it from there !  :)
>
> > It's all in that *.dll.  If you are interested in
> > *just* *.jpg, you
> > should play w/ Roland's *.dll &/or *.lib.  The lib
> > can $LNK in at
>
> Ouch !  You just went over my head..  I'll want
> .GIF too if possible and the .GIF needs to have
> lossy compression, max distance pixels spacing,
> transparency, animation, and stuff.  Or you're just
> going to save a .GIF that's bigger or less useful then
> what was read in !
>
> > Roland is working on a *.res compiler.  I can
> > sometimes get it to work,
> > but sometimes it's a bomb.  My own *.rc generator
>
> >Plink!<  Waaay over my head.  I'm still trying to
> figure out .DLLs.  I "read" your source code to your
> lightener, I use that word lightly cause I can't
> figure out too much in it.  Everybody writes C++
> stuff am I the only write easy to understand coding ??
> My QBasic friends aren't leaving QB cause they said
> GFA is too hard !  I think they downloaded sourcecode
> from some others and yah it is just bout impossible
> to read.  Not blaming you guys but you sure like
> C++ !  :)
>
> > OK - ya got me hangin here for the moment, but I
> > know it's possible.
> > Warp is a 1-image situation most of the time.
>
> The tilted squares I did above are called MODE 7
> graphics like for the SNES emulator.  Download
> ZSNES sometime and a really old game for it
> F-Zero to see MODE 7 in royal action !  :)
>
> Well why mess with all of that RC Cola stuff when
> you can use DATA !  It's how I've always programmed.
> If it's a really fat data file, make it an external
> binary.  Remember, you can easily encrypt binary
> files with MyCryptor and I'd =REALLY= like to see
> someone break that code open !  :)
>
> > To do very much of what you describe above requires
> > a ton of VRAM
>
> Really ??  I can't figure out why no-one in kingdom
> come hasn't made a programming language that gives
> you infinite everything.  Just use your hard-drive
> space if you're doing fat stuff, and it's a =SHAME=
> that there is not one single programming language
> out that doesn't emulate beyond the 32k 64k max size
> of a procedure/function/routine.  Emulate it folks !!
> That's all it would take.  See my post on DATA to
> jump around reading more hundreds of data lines !
> Cheap shot way to get around it, GFA you coulda
> emulated beyond 32k !
>
> Well, I've plonked down to (FIXED) resolution screen
> size of 418x290.  Any games and non-screen-teasers I
> write will use =JUST= this resolution.  There's a
> method to this madness and you'll see once I finally
> get around to writing Fruit Frenzy.  I got a good
> picture of a buncha fruit spilling out of a corn
> horn or something CornCopious or something..
>
> > Any time I spend much time on here playing w/
> > GFA-W(16), I have to reboot
> > to clear it's throat!  It's probably from not
> > freeing EVERYTHING in a timely
> > manner.  I try to not do anything that causes that.
>
> Maaan !  That's awful, my puter's so slow rebooting !
> Oh and I got GFA installed on my laptop finally !
> Yoow it's 20mhz so WindChimes goes clink clink clink
> for about a minute !  Waay to slow, if I stick only
> with B&W tiles for my laptop though it's really
> fast !  I've already hooked in my bitmap saver for
> Gredit but would not mind using something that does
> it in a fraction of a second.  My laptop it takes
> 15 seconds to save off a window, main computer,
> 1 second <-- still way too slow for the =GOOD= stuff !
>
> > I'm running Win95a on this one, Win3.1 on the 486.
> > I have only 8M
>
> Betcha can't beat my laptop !  20mhz, Win3.1,
> B&W screen only and 60meg Hard-driver period !  :)
>
> I remember when I wrote DOOMSDAY off a single 360k
> floppy when Telegard went down.  Maaan I stayed up
> like 6am in the morning but when I was done, I had
> written a BBS in =1= day's time that allowed
> user logins/passwords, email, public message base,
> feedback, and file access !  That was neat !
> =THAT'S= how easy it is to program in QBasic !
>
> > May drop in on you in Oct... dotter #2 is getting
> > married at Dennison
> > during that month & dotter #1 lives at Bowie.  Her
> > hubby is the computer
> > system caretaker at some outfit in FtW.
>
> Ohh ?  Near my Dad's ?  I live a short clip from there
> but I don't like getting mail here cause it's a shared
> mailbox, guess who doesn't get their videogame mag
> subscription here !!!  I forward address to my Dad's
> now and comes out great !
>
> >
> > Nearing 6 in the a.m... time to pill down & go to
> > bed.
>
> Yah you've hadda rough time !  Geesh I've had so many
> head injuries surprised I can't put a spoon in one
> ear and pull out fresh Rice Pudding to nibble on !
>
> I'm gonna send a few cinnamon pix your way too and
> get you out of your chocolates !  :)
>
> C-ya !
>
> Sincerely,
> David W.
>
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List Member Anthony Watson <awatson@pacifier.com> wrote:
David,

> GFABasic cannot deal with any main program,
> procedure, or function bigger than 32k.

> PROCEDURE Data0100
> RETURN
> Biggo50k_Gif_Data:
> DATA . . .

I discovered the hard way that GFA limits you to a total of something like
64K of DATA statements in a program. It doesn't matter if you spread them
across multiple procedures or not.

The hard part is that the interpreter seems to deal fine with this, but
the compiler responds with errors if you exceed that limit.

Something to keep in mind...

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:


--- Anthony Watson <awatson@pacifier.com> wrote:
> List Member Anthony Watson <awatson@pacifier.com>
> wrote:
> David,
> 
> > GFABasic cannot deal with any main program,
> > procedure, or function bigger than 32k.
> 
> > PROCEDURE Data0100
> > RETURN
> > Biggo50k_Gif_Data:
> > DATA . . .
> 
> I discovered the hard way that GFA limits you to a
> total of something like
> 64K of DATA statements in a program. It doesn't
> matter if you spread them
> across multiple procedures or not.
> 
> The hard part is that the interpreter seems to deal
> fine with this, but
> the compiler responds with errors if you exceed that
> limit.
> 
> Something to keep in mind...
> 
> Anthony
> 

Ouch !  Ratz..  Huum..
Okay..  I didn't know that.  What error message do
you get in the compiled .EXE version that requires
the GFARUN10.DLL file ?

Sincerely,
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List Member Anthony Watson <awatson@pacifier.com> wrote:
David,

>> GFA limits you to a total of something like
>> 64K of DATA statements in a program.

> What error message do you get in the compiled .EXE 
> version that requires the GFARUN10.DLL file ?

I've only used the true compiler that creates stand-alone programs.
It has been a while since I ran across this problem, so I don't recall the
exact error messages. If memory serves though, they were completely
oddball compiler errors that did nothing to indicate the true cause. I
know it took me quite a while to figure out why my program wasn't
compiling.

Take care,

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List Member "Roland Walter" <roland@rowalt.de> wrote:
Hallo all,
Here is a text I had similar written for a german journal.
Because I had to make an english version for my latest
project (a programmer software for PIC microprocessors),
I had the idea to give it also to You.

It's a very interesting and very funny "game":
Put a small MS Windows at a bootable (!) disk with a lot of
free space for usefull Windows programs


Under Windows 95 You will find a file named MINI.CAB in the
directory WINDOWS\SYSTEM
This file contains a complete small Windows 3.1. This Windows does
not work in Extended 386 Mode but after all in Protected Mode. With
some small tricks this Windows fits at a bootable floppy with about
600...650KB free space for applications.
So it's possible to build a Windows PC using an old mainbord with
graphic card, floppy controller and floppy drive only.
If You like to run one application only You can use it instead of
a shell. Otherwise it should not be a problem to make a small
GFA Basic program with a single list box which shows the directories.

Here is the instruction how to make the Mini Windows:

1.	Copy the file MINI.CAB into an empty directory
2.	Unpack fith command	EXTRACT.EXE /E MINI.CAB
3.	Open the file SYSTEM.INI (of Mini Windows!) and go to
    section [boot]
	Change entry shell=setup.exe   to   shell=myprog.exe
	(myprog.exe is any program or an own "Shell" program.
    But it's also possible to use the Program Manager (progman.exe)
    or another smaller shell.
4.	Content of CONFIG.SYS:
	DEVICE=HIMEM.SYS
	DOS=HIGH
5.	Content of AUTOEXEC.BAT
	PATH A:\
	DOSX.EXE
	(DOSX.EXE will start the Mini Windows)
6.	The one and only needed DOD driver is HIMEM.SYS. You will not need
    a mouse driver because Windows has an own one. Also a keyboard
    driver is needed only
    1.) if this is necessary in Your country
    2.) if You also like to work under "plain" DOS
    For example in Germany You will need the files KEYB.COM and
    KEYBOARD.SYS wich must be loaded in AUTOEXEC.BAT with the
    following entry:
	keyb gr,,A:\KEYBOARD.SYS
	If You need a small DOS file manager You can use the famous Volkov
    Commander which is about 50KB omnly if compressed with PKLITE or
    LZEXE (it looks and feels as the Norton Commander).

7.	Important: Some programs needs additional DLLs files which are not
    a part of Mini Windows. This could be for example:
	COMMDLG.DLL	(90KB)
	TOOLHELP.DLL	(12KB)
	WIN87EM.DLL	(13KB)
	These files You will find in directory WINDOWS\SYSTEM. If the
	Windows95 versions of these DLLs cannot be used (version error) then
	use the versions shipped with Windows 3.x or search in Internet.
	The additional needed DLLs are different from program to
	program of course. Here are 3 examples for this:
	- The programm Write (the version shipped with Windows 3.x)
      needs olecli.dll, commdlg.dll and shell.dll
    - Winword 2 needs shell.dll, olecli.dll and olesrv.dll
    - Paintbrush needs olesvr.dll, commdlg.dll and shell.dll.

Ready! The Mini Windows can now be started. But please don't try this
from a DOS window but use "plain" DOS.

Additional Tips for the boot floppy

The Mini Windows becomes a real sense only if You start it from a
bootable floppy disk. Here are some hints and tips to get as much
free space as possible:


1.	Nearly nobody does know that Windows 95 (and MS-DOS 7.x) is able
to access 1,72MB formatted disks. Such an "oversized" disk can be
made bootable quite normal with the command
SYS.COM A:
The only problem is that You will need a special program which is
able to format such disks. For this I can recommend the following
Freeware programs:

-	The program FMT made by Dirk Paehl, which is available as DOS and
    Windows version (http://www.welfen-netz.com/dpaehl/)
-	The classic FDFORMAT program made by Christoph H. Hochsttter (you
    will find it at several FTP servers). Unfortunately FDFORMAT must
    be started under plain DOS (DOS box does not work).

2.	You can delete the file SETUP.EXE (if existing) in any case, and
also the file LZEXPAND.DLL which is needed only by some Setup
programs do copy and decompress files.


3.	The Win98 version of the Mini Windows does also work with Truetype
fonts. This is usually an excellend thing but on the other hand not
necessary under all circumstances (POC does not need Truetype fonts
for example). If You do not need Truetype fonts You can save 293KB by
deleting the following files:
ARIAL.TTF, ARIALBD.TTF, TIMES.TTF, TIMESBD.TTF, ARIAL.FOT,
ARIALBD.FOT, TIMES.FOT, TIMESBD.FOT
	Morover the deleted fonts must be unregistered in the WIN.INI.
Delete the Truetype fonts in the section [fonts] and change in
section [TrueType] the entry TTEnable=1 to TTEnable=0.

4.	While booting from floppy You can use RAMDRIVE.SYS (12KB) to
create a RAM drive. Put the Mini Windows including applications ZIP
compressed to disk, uncompress from the floppy to the RAM drive and
start the Mini Windows there.
This Method should be the most economical and fastest.
The following entry in CONFIG.SYS creates a RAM disk in XMS memory
with a size of 2048KB, a Sector size of 256 bytes and 512 allowed
files in root directory:
DEVICE[HIGH]=A:\RAMDRIVE.SYS 2048 256 512 /E

5.	If You don't like to work with RAM drive and ZIP You can at least
compress some of the program files using PKLITE. Even this will save
a lot of space. Get the EXE compression program PKLITE (version 2.0
as a minimum) from Internet. At least the files dosx.exe, gdi.exe and
user.exe You cqan make smaller with it (do not compress the files
krnl386.exe and vga.drv). PKLITE will first refuse the compresion of
Windows system files. But after renaming the files it works. (Rename
for example GDI.EXE into TEMP.EXE, compress it and than rename it
back to GDI.EXE). The Mini Windows itself will become about 127KB
smaller. With additional used DLLs and application program files You
will save a lot more of course.
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Sounds like he needs to look at codec-compression.
<G>
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At 11:28 AM 11/03/00 -0800, you wrote:
>List Member Anthony Watson <awatson@pacifier.com> wrote:
>David,
>
>> GFABasic cannot deal with any main program,
>> procedure, or function bigger than 32k.
>
>> PROCEDURE Data0100
>> RETURN
>> Biggo50k_Gif_Data:
>> DATA . . .
>
>I discovered the hard way that GFA limits you to a total of something like
>64K of DATA statements in a program. It doesn't matter if you spread them
>across multiple procedures or not.
>
>The hard part is that the interpreter seems to deal fine with this, but
>the compiler responds with errors if you exceed that limit.
>
>Something to keep in mind...
>
>Anthony
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I've only used the true compiler that creates
> stand-alone programs.
> It has been a while since I ran across this problem,
> so I don't recall the
> exact error messages. If memory serves though, they
> were completely
> oddball compiler errors that did nothing to indicate
> the true cause

Maaan !  It looks like =EVERYONE= had a stand alone
compiler except me.  >Sniff< :(

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:

> This file contains a complete small Windows 3.1.

What you just wrote was so hyper-incredible I
copied it to a text file and will let Dad look at it !
Wow !!  Neato !!  :)  Does it look like 3.1 or does
it look like Win95 ?  And can I use the same files if
I have Win98 only ?

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Yah Tom Terrific you better all tell us what a codec-
compression is or =NO= Fruit Cup for you this weekend
!
:)

Sincerely,
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Listen, you guys, this is Saturday and you are sure
> tasking my brain with
> this stuff.  I'm going back to farming!
> 
> Dale Bryant

Huh ??  Yah well Dale maybe you got a nice life to
go home to but me I've got like =NO= life at all
this weekend.  I wouldn't be working on programming
if Rose were here.  I'd be working on Rose.  :)
Go fig !

Okay !  :)

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Hey!
Really beats WinLite, which I could never make work.
Thanks, Roland.  Something new to play with!
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Replacement file going to DALE at this time.
Dale... please switch this file for the lite01b.zip.
A few changes made to lite01b.lst = lite01c.lst
Added dark01c.lst & the following modicum of instruction:

12/03/2000 01:53:36 AM   lite01c.zip

This pkg contains 3 files...
lite01c.lst
dark01c.lst
amy01.jpg

You also need nviewl16.dll, or else write your
own image load/display.  The meat of these two
*.lsts lies in the display picture section &
consists of altering the R,G, & B values of the
image already displayed on the left in the image
that displays on the right.

~GetPixel() & ~SetPixel() are illustrated

These appls will lighten or darken ANY image you 
display.  Adjust your sizes accordingly, because 
this image is 1/2 screen, 320x476 or so.  You might
display your image onscreen, work w/ a compatable 
in a 2nd window offscreen then BLIT the 2nd to the
screen when each change is complete.

A "work on selection, only" will follow, then if I
am successfull in deciphering the math, an irregular
selection will be tried.

UNlike John's routine, this pair should function on
even the codec-compressed *.bmps because is independent
of the files, themselves.  These work from the screen 
(or hidden) image, NOT the file.

IF all succeeds here, then I'll try "color pick", maybe
giving us the ability to change *1* color within an image.
>From there, perhaps a "range" of colors... 1 +/- a %age.
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Selection, rectangular, functional.
Play w/ this.
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
GFA16
All archives listed either updated or they are new uploads

*********************
Updated
light018.zip     by Tom Record
lightens a graphic
Tom has added a routine that will darken a graphic. This is really nice
*********************
Check out Davids stuff.  He rides a different train.

Updated
windchim.zip     by David Wicker
char8.zip            by David
savebmp.zip        by David
bit8to7.zip            by David
bubbles.zip        by David
*****************************
New
mycriptr,zip         by David Wicker
killmous.zip        by David
midiwave            by David
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> *********************
> Updated
> light018.zip     by Tom Record
> lightens a graphic
> Tom has added a routine that will darken a graphic.
> This is really nice
> *********************
> Check out Davids stuff.  He rides a different train.
> 
> Updated
> windchim.zip     by David Wicker
> char8.zip            by David
> savebmp.zip        by David
> bit8to7.zip            by David
> bubbles.zip        by David
> *****************************
> New
> mycriptr,zip         by David Wicker
> killmous.zip        by David
> midiwave            by David
> unzipper.zip        by David
> *****************************

Hi Dale !  Looks good thanks !
As mentioned, please remove my Lightner,
I wrote it only as an example and want
Tom to be the lightner writer !  :)

Okay !

Well Gredit is underway and already I'm
putting together 256 char. in 32768 colors
and going to modify UnpackPic so it can pack
several other items besides just pictures,
like MIDI, .WAVs, and parallax mapper data.

It's getting busy all in my head !  :)
You guys (and gals) are gonna love Fruit Frenzy
and graphic file manager when it's done !
(It's in the works)

If someone knows please how to save .BMPs fiddling
with the data so I can use 2 bytes instead of 3,
that would be great !  My screen can't see a
difference between 32x32x32 and 256x256x256.
Also, I am =VERY= surprised there's not a good
.GIF cruncher out there using laws of balances
and averages sooo I'll write one too I guess.

LowBlur is already complete but I'll introduce it
in Picture File Manager.

That's all from here !

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:


--- Tom Record
<tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Selection, rectangular, functional.
> Play w/ this.
> <G>
> TomR.

Hi Tom:

Played with it a bit.  Try out
GRAPHMODE R2_XORPEN
with color WHITE
and BOX H,V,X,Y
to make a real inverted selection,
maybe have spacebar take it away or something,
or (better yet!!) since you can read .JPGs and .GIFs,
use that rectangle to save off sections as a new
mini picture !  That'd be fun & useful !
Maybe what didn't get cut gets erased and what's
left is STR-RET-TCHed to fit the user window !  :)

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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
OK David, I will remove it.
Dale

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> Hi Dale !  Looks good thanks !
> As mentioned, please remove my Lightner,
> I wrote it only as an example and want
> Tom to be the lightner writer !  :)
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
In the war of graphic enhancement the Tiger takes the lead
REMOVED
lightner.zip    by DW

News Flash just in!
DW is working on some powerful stuff he says will amaze us. TR is renewing
his efforts and has some great surprises in store for us. HANG ON!

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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
GFA16
GFANL169
GFANL170

These are both ready for download if you did not receive them.

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List Member "Roland Walter" <roland@rowalt.de> wrote:
> List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:

> What you just wrote was so hyper-incredible I
> copied it to a text file and will let Dad look at it !
:-)))))))))))))


> [...]  Does it look like 3.1 or does
> it look like Win95 ?  And can I use the same files if
> I have Win98 only ?
It does not look only as Windows 3.x it IS.
Because of this it does not look as 95/NT or so.

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I have written a small Graphic-Music Example.
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:


--- Roland Walter <roland@rowalt.de> wrote:
> List Member "Roland Walter" <roland@rowalt.de>
> wrote:
> > List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> > What you just wrote was so hyper-incredible I
> > copied it to a text file and will let Dad look at
> it !
> :-)))))))))))))
> 
> 
> > [...]  Does it look like 3.1 or does
> > it look like Win95 ?  And can I use the same files
> if
> > I have Win98 only ?
> It does not look only as Windows 3.x it IS.
> Because of this it does not look as 95/NT or so.

Okay !  Well, I've got about 30 files I need to
sort thru.  Yah I got my nose buried in Cherry Miya,
ahhmm.. buried in Fruity Jam, (she's in the game),
putting it all together.  :)

I see Dad tomorrow, told him about it on phone,
he was really interested in it !  

Also, does anyone know how to turn off the hard-drive
light while I'm on the internet, no Tom, a little
silver hammer to bop out the light isn't what I'm
talking about.  :)  When I'm on the net my whole
computer SL-LO-OW-WS DOWN a lot and I start reading
nutzy on the hard-drive.  It didn't use to happen
but now it does every day !  Gredit barely runs when
I'm on the net so I have to shut down the net before
I can work in there.  (SIGH)

Sincerely,
David W.


Sincerely,
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
I love it!!!
I'm still waiting for GFA to sell me more space on their server. I will get
it up as soon as I hear from them.
Thanks for sharing it. It is great!!
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> I have written a small Graphic-Music Example.
> You can use it for Slideshow or Game-Programming.
>
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi Franz-Xaver !

Very nice !  You also showed me that I can just
use the shorter:

MCI "play mid"

instead of:

Z$=MCI$("play mid")

Thanks !

Sincerely,
David W.


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> I have written a small Graphic-Music Example.
> You can use it for Slideshow or Game-Programming.
> 
> 

> ATTACHMENT part 2 application/x-zip-compressed
name=Graphic-Music-Example.zip

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hiya folks !

Okay, well, Mr. Loock sent me some stuff..  I'm
not really figuring it out.  But when I wrote a
program to OpenMIDI, play a note, play another so they
run together, CloseMIDI, I accidentally had OpenMIDI
and a few notes beneath that too.

Sooo !  I learned something new !  Aura is underway !
:)

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>
>Also, does anyone know how to turn off the hard-drive
>light while I'm on the internet, no Tom, a little
>silver hammer to bop out the light isn't what I'm
>talking about.  :)  When I'm on the net my whole
>computer SL-LO-OW-WS DOWN a lot and I start reading
>nutzy on the hard-drive.  It didn't use to happen
>but now it does every day !  Gredit barely runs when
>I'm on the net so I have to shut down the net before
>I can work in there.  (SIGH)
>
>Sincerely,
>David W.
>

How much RAM do you have?
How many appl are you running at the same time?

<G>
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Dale
look at 100megs.com & 50megs.com  They're free.
<G>
TomR.



At 11:14 AM 14/03/00 -0800, you wrote:
>List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
>I love it!!!
>I'm still waiting for GFA to sell me more space on their server. I will get
>it up as soon as I hear from them.
>Thanks for sharing it. It is great!!
>Dale Bryant
>http://gfawhelp.com
>http://gfawhelp.gfa.net
>adbryant@msn.com
>adbryant@gfa.net
>----- Original Message -----
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>
>
>> I have written a small Graphic-Music Example.
>> You can use it for Slideshow or Game-Programming.
>>
>>
>
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
--- Dale Bryant <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com>
> wrote:
> In the war of graphic enhancement the Tiger takes
> the lead
> REMOVED
> lightner.zip    by DW
> 
> News Flash just in!
> DW is working on some powerful stuff he says will
> amaze us. TR is renewing
> his efforts and has some great surprises in store
> for us. HANG ON!

TR is still underway, but Aura will be worked on
first.  What I wanted to see from tom was that
Nubian Prize change race colors.  Now =THAT= woulda
been a good lightener !  :)

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:


--- Tom Record
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> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> >
> >Also, does anyone know how to turn off the
> hard-drive
> >light while I'm on the internet, no Tom, a little
> >silver hammer to bop out the light isn't what I'm
> >talking about.  :)  When I'm on the net my whole
> >computer SL-LO-OW-WS DOWN a lot and I start reading
> >nutzy on the hard-drive.  It didn't use to happen
> >but now it does every day !  Gredit barely runs
> when
> >I'm on the net so I have to shut down the net
> before
> >I can work in there.  (SIGH)
> >
> >Sincerely,
> >David W.
> >
> 
> How much RAM do you have?
> How many appl are you running at the same time?
> 
> <G>
> TomR.

I don't know, but I'm only running Yahoo Mail
right now and that light is still going nutzy.
I'm using a free server, Alta Vista's free internet
service, I have pictures turned off, hitting

[CTRL [ALT] [DEL] for running tasks

Yahoo Mail
Explorer
My Home
Iexplore
Freeav
Systray
Rundll
Printray
Rnaapp

That's it..

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Dale has to pay for all his space on GFA.NET.  Can't we all band
together & ante up enough to take that load off him for a year or 
so?  He's doing one hell of a job of keeping all of our spit-outs
available to everybody!

Who has any drag w/ GFA?  Surely *they* could give him a 200M site
for free since his efforts bring *them* cash profit, not himself!

In lieu of either of the above happening, there is an outfit that gives
100M sites for free (gotta put up w/ advertising!) that I've seen.
There is also one that gives 50M sites for free, same conditions.  I have
ont of these latter.  The first is 100megs.com, the other is 50megs.com.

Fortunecity gives you 20M free & they keep only the top inch (2.5cm).

C'mon, guys!  None of us are rich, but several of us are making money
off his/her efforts.  *I'm* _not_ either of those, but will dig up some
change to help Dale in this crunch.

Get with it!  Why should Dale bear the whole expense for something that
NEVER turns a dollar his way?

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>What I wanted to see from tom was that
>Nubian Prize change race colors.  Now =THAT= woulda
>been a good lightener !  :)
>
>Sincerely,
>David W.
>

Be damned careful what you ask for... it *could* happen.  *This*
falls within a request from Bev the other night that is entirely
possible already, just not been turned loose on the world of GFA.

What color would you like?  Anything within 16-bit color is easy!
<G>
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> How much RAM do you have?
>> How many appl are you running at the same time?
>> 
>> <G>
>> TomR.
>
>I don't know, but I'm only running Yahoo Mail
>right now and that light is still going nutzy.
>I'm using a free server, Alta Vista's free internet
>service, I have pictures turned off, hitting
>
>[CTRL [ALT] [DEL] for running tasks
>
>Yahoo Mail
>Explorer
>My Home
>Iexplore
>Freeav
>Systray
>Rundll
>Printray
>Rnaapp
>
>That's it..
>
>Sincerely,
>David W.
>
>__________________________________________________

You are running 9 applications.  Those eat a lot of RAM!  How much
memory do you have installed?  At DOS c:\>, type mem
See how much memory it says you have.  Running Win98, if it's OEM
(came on the computer), I'd bet at least 36M.  If somebody upgraded
an older computer to W98, you may have as little as 2M!

Computers that came out w/ Win3.1 started off w/ 2M.  The first
W95 'puters had only 4M.  For W95 to stay off the HD, it needs
at least 16M!
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> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Dale has to pay for all his space on GFA.NET.  Can't
> we all band
> together & ante up enough to take that load off him
> for a year or 
> so?  He's doing one hell of a job of keeping all of
> our spit-outs
> available to everybody!
> 
> Who has any drag w/ GFA?  Surely *they* could give
> him a 200M site
> for free since his efforts bring *them* cash profit,
> not himself!
> 
> In lieu of either of the above happening, there is
> an outfit that gives
> 100M sites for free (gotta put up w/ advertising!)
> that I've seen.
> There is also one that gives 50M sites for free,
> same conditions.  I have
> ont of these latter.  The first is 100megs.com, the
> other is 50megs.com.
> 
> Fortunecity gives you 20M free & they keep only the
> top inch (2.5cm).
> 
> C'mon, guys!  None of us are rich, but several of us
> are making money
> off his/her efforts.  *I'm* _not_ either of those,
> but will dig up some
> change to help Dale in this crunch.
> 
> Get with it!  Why should Dale bear the whole expense
> for something that
> NEVER turns a dollar his way?

Hey Tiger !  I thought that GFA was paving Dale's
way !  They're not very bright if they're not cause
he is sponsoring promoting, endorsing, advertising,
extending, and expanding GFA more so then they
would themselves without his help !

Internet service should be free, mine is, with
email, homepage, 10megs, and the }:> newsgroups !

Certainly I was hoping that some of the software I
wrote would encourage some Q-Bees to join but no
such luck..  I don't want to go back to Qbasic now,
certainly I don't have to now that I'm getting
com affordable with the language.  I have a website
with about 10megs in it from Geocities.  I'm
not really using it much and Dale, you are welcome to
it if it helps.  I get some romz occasionally and
those sites have over 100megs space.  You just gotta
click on an ad or something in it.  I keep pictures
off so a click isn't much to do from here.

Since the authors are proud of their works, they could
have direct links from your page to theirs instead of
you downloading it all the time (which has got to be
a day's effort some days!) :)

Then your entire website might be 1meg or less !
(Just me thinkin'!)

But right now I need to debug and defuse my computer !
It's running so slow right now with nothing in it !
I'm going to freeware.com to see if I can get my
computer figured out.  I deinstall everything by DOS
which is not supposed to be right cause you put
things in drive C that I don't know what they are !
(SIGH)  I'll probably have to reformat everything !
Bring it to Dad's.  I guess my computer is ready for
its monthly reformatting now anyways !  :(
I dunno how Dad puts up with me; I never change.
:)

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List Member "Russell Hayward" <russ@softhome.net> wrote:

Hi everybody,

Just something else to add to the free webspace Tom mentioned:

http://free.prohosting.com

15Mb, no adverts.

I also have 50Mb I can upload to most of the time (I have to dial-in on a
free number that is tough to get on somethimes), I could take some of the
bigger files if you like.

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List Member "Bev Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
16-bit colors would do nicely -- for the rest of you, I asked Tom for a FILL
routine.

btw, I've come across a BIG prob with LISTBOX; it seems that it will only
show one more file or folder that it can hold (see my GFADLL5) -- altho the
KILL routine seems to work & everything works in the INTERPRETER or if you
compile using the INTERPRETER's MAKE EXE; nutz, only in GFA <g>!!!

                             -->Bev<--

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Record" <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net>
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> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> >What I wanted to see from tom was that
> >Nubian Prize change race colors.  Now =THAT= woulda
> >been a good lightener !  :)
> >
> >Sincerely,
> >David W.
> >
>
> Be damned careful what you ask for... it *could* happen.  *This*
> falls within a request from Bev the other night that is entirely
> possible already, just not been turned loose on the world of GFA.
>
> What color would you like?  Anything within 16-bit color is easy!
> <G>
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Hi Tom,
I really appreciate your email.  It is true that I pay  a monthly fee of
$20.00 and also 14.95 a month for each additional 10Meg of disk space over
20Megs.  I thought that this was not too bad but I have now passed the 30Meg
mark and cannot upload/update anything until I hear from GFA. I have sent
two emails but no answer as yet.  There was a $45.00 setup fee in the
beginning.  Please don't feel that I am unhappy with GFA as they have always
been very cooperative and helpful in many ways.  As I am retired and on a
limited income I can see that is going to get quite expensive.  I now have
30Meg of space which is full. I have quite a lot of stuff to upload but am
unable to do so until GFA allocates me another 10 Meg.

$20.00
$14.95
$14.95 for needed 10Meg
-----------
$49..90 month

I also have another help file in progress (GB32HELP) which is going to take
considerable room when I finish it. I guess I could stand that amount but I
am looking to the future and starting to run a little scared.  10Megs is not
a lot of space when so many people that seem like my family are sending new
files daily. I never fails to amaze me that so many friends are so willing
to share with me and therefore with the rest of you. Also, the GFAWHELP file
is never done but has additions added as friends send me great examples.
I received a file today from Franz-Xaver.Schweiger that combines graphics of
your choice while it plays a midi file. It is rally nice and I am eager to
share it when I can.

Tom, I appreciate you wanting to help but I really don't want it to come to
that. I would never feel comfortable asking all  my friends to share their
hard work and pay to have it displayed. I must say, that no matter what
happens I feel  so blessed to know all of you.  I just cannot help feeling
that I am I am very fortunate.
Thanks,
Dale


Dale Bryant
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http://gfawhelp.gfa.net
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> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Dale has to pay for all his space on GFA.NET.  Can't we all band
> together & ante up enough to take that load off him for a year or
> so?  He's doing one hell of a job of keeping all of our spit-outs
> available to everybody!
>
> Who has any drag w/ GFA?  Surely *they* could give him a 200M site
> for free since his efforts bring *them* cash profit, not himself!
>
> In lieu of either of the above happening, there is an outfit that gives
> 100M sites for free (gotta put up w/ advertising!) that I've seen.
> There is also one that gives 50M sites for free, same conditions.  I have
> ont of these latter.  The first is 100megs.com, the other is 50megs.com.
>
> Fortunecity gives you 20M free & they keep only the top inch (2.5cm).
>
> C'mon, guys!  None of us are rich, but several of us are making money
> off his/her efforts.  *I'm* _not_ either of those, but will dig up some
> change to help Dale in this crunch.
>
> Get with it!  Why should Dale bear the whole expense for something that
> NEVER turns a dollar his way?
>
> TomR.
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Thanks David, let's just wait and see what happens.

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> List Member "Russell Hayward" <russ@softhome.net> wrote:
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> Hi everybody,
>
> Just something else to add to the free webspace Tom mentioned:
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> http://free.prohosting.com
>
> 15Mb, no adverts.
>
> I also have 50Mb I can upload to most of the time (I have to dial-in on a
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Be damned careful what you ask for... it *could*
> happen.  *This*
> falls within a request from Bev the other night that
> is entirely
> possible already, just not been turned loose on the
> world of GFA.
> 
> What color would you like?  Anything within 16-bit
> color is easy!
> <G>
> TomR.

Really ??  Well, in QBasic you had 64 shades instead
of 256 RGB (0-63), so let's see if you can get her
close to: Red=60, Green=48, Blue=48

That should be nice & pink !  :)

Sincerely,
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >Yahoo Mail
> >Explorer
> >My Home
> >Iexplore
> >Freeav
> >Systray
> >Rundll
> >Printray
> >Rnaapp
> >
> >That's it..

> You are running 9 applications.  Those eat a lot of
> RAM!  How much
> memory do you have installed?  At DOS c:\>, type mem
> See how much memory it says you have.  Running
> Win98, if it's OEM
> (came on the computer), I'd bet at least 36M.  If
> somebody upgraded
> an older computer to W98, you may have as little as
> 2M!
> 
> Computers that came out w/ Win3.1 started off w/ 2M.
>  The first
> W95 'puters had only 4M.  For W95 to stay off the
> HD, it needs
> at least 16M!
> TomR.


Memory Type        Total       Used       Free
----------------  --------   --------   --------
Conventional          640K        36K       604K
Upper                   0K         0K         0K
Reserved              384K       384K         0K
Extended (XMS)     31,744K       160K    31,584K
----------------  --------   --------   --------
Total memory       32,768K       580K    32,188K

Total under 1 MB      640K        36K       604K

Total Expanded (EMS)                   32M (33,062,912
bytes)  
Free Expanded (EMS)                    16M (16,777,216
bytes)  

Largest executable program size       604K (618,848
bytes)  
Largest free upper memory block         0K       (0
bytes)  
MS-DOS is resident in the high memory area.

This is what I get back.
My Internet Explorer is 4.0 too !  And 5.0 is out ?
I'll have to download that next !  :/

Aura is coming right along too !  :)

Sincerely,
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--- Russell Hayward <russ@softhome.net> wrote:
> List Member "Russell Hayward" <russ@softhome.net>
> wrote:
> 
> Hi everybody,
> 
> Just something else to add to the free webspace Tom
> mentioned:
> 
> http://free.prohosting.com
> 
> 15Mb, no adverts.
> 
> I also have 50Mb I can upload to most of the time (I
> have to dial-in on a
> free number that is tough to get on somethimes), I
> could take some of the
> bigger files if you like.

Hi Russell !  No, I hadn't forgotten about you,
I'm just shoulder deep in:

1) Fixing my computer to run normally
2) Mounting up on Cherry Miya for Fruity Jam
3) Installing Aura for Wind Chimes

Lotsa stuff, and I see Dad tomorrow so =NO=
24 hours on computer that day like I normally do.
:)  Okay !

Quick note on Dale's Dilemna, by us keeping tabs on
our own products, Dale wouldn't need to go thru
megabyte hell (like I musta done when I sent him
updates to everything I had <<heheheh>> ) :)

I've sorta got some stuff on Geocities, but it's
not really organized.  If it were tho, my stuff
would just be linked instead of downloaded direct,
might help, just thinkin' !

Sincerely,
David W.


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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:


--- Bev Brown <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
> List Member "Bev Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com>
> wrote:
> 16-bit colors would do nicely -- for the rest of
> you, I asked Tom for a FILL
> routine.
> 
> btw, I've come across a BIG prob with LISTBOX; it
> seems that it will only
> show one more file or folder that it can hold (see
> my GFADLL5) -- altho the
> KILL routine seems to work & everything works in the
> INTERPRETER or if you
> compile using the INTERPRETER's MAKE EXE; nutz, only
> in GFA <g>!!!

Yah well Bev, now you know why I write my own
graphic and GUI stuff so I don't have to fuss with
it.

If you can wait until I can floss in between my toes
with my grey beard and I wearing adult diapers, I'll
prolly have written a listbox for you then since I'm
rewriting everything all over again.  Yah Dale I just
don't like what's system standard, I never have.  :) 
!!  Graphic filebox to replace (ahhm, maybe you won't
like me saying that).. to SUGGEST a different Win98's
filebox is in the works too !

Sincerely,
David W.


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--- Dale Bryant <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> Hi Tom,
> I really appreciate your email.  It is true that I
> pay  a monthly fee of
> $20.00 and also 14.95 a month for each additional
> 10Meg of disk space over
> 20Megs.  I thought that this was not too bad but I
> have now passed the 30Meg
> mark and cannot upload/update anything until I hear
> from GFA. I have sent
> two emails but no answer as yet.  There was a $45.00
> setup fee in the
> beginning.  Please don't feel that I am unhappy with
> GFA as they have always
> been very cooperative and helpful in many ways.  As
> I am retired and on a
> limited income I can see that is going to get quite
> expensive.  I now have
> 30Meg of space which is full. I have quite a lot of
> stuff to upload but am
> unable to do so until GFA allocates me another 10
> Meg.
> 
> $20.00
> $14.95
> $14.95 for needed 10Meg
> -----------
> $49..90 month

Geesh !  I never pay for nothing !

> 
> I also have another help file in progress (GB32HELP)
> which is going to take
> considerable room when I finish it. I guess I could
> stand that amount but I
> am looking to the future and starting to run a
> little scared.

Dale, =DO NOT= use any of your life savings money
things for this !  I know lots of us (including
myself) have ample internet space to carry some new
help files.

Your looking at it looks like maybe 1meg max for
graphics stuff in your homepage, link everyone's
works to their own homepages, and that number of
hard-drive space needed will go wayer way down.

Also if we update something, we can tell ya if we
like, but you don't need to download it cause its
already on our homepages.

Does this make sense ?  Save your money !  There's
gonna be a day you go to that corner candy store
and wanna buy some Gummi Bears and all you can
afford is that cheap store brand stuff compared
to Haribo which is =MUCH= better !

Save your money and save it for when you want to buy
the =GOOD= candy and other things you want.

When I ran Scenario years ago, I had over 200 caller
accounts, it was a BBS I wrote off a 360k floppy
everyone had fun, okee, Rose wanted me to charge
people I said !NOW Rose! No.  I payed a monthly fee
like $15/mo. for the phone line.  I wrote the
modem drivers, wrote the caller account keeper stuff,
password, email, file drivers, public message base
forums, the works.  I coulda charged money and maybe
made a mint..  But I wouldn't be happy.  Would =I=
pay money for a service that by all rights should be
free ??

Dale the best things in life truly are free, and if
you're paying for something.  There's somebody
somewhere in the world happier than you are cause they
are selling something that shoulda been free to begin
with and their making a not good profit on it.

Not good..  Please Consider..

Now I can get back to mounting Cherry Miya !  :)

Sincerely,
David W.

10Megs is not
> a lot of space when so many people that seem like my
> family are sending new
> files daily. I never fails to amaze me that so many
> friends are so willing
> to share with me and therefore with the rest of you.
> Also, the GFAWHELP file
> is never done but has additions added as friends
> send me great examples.
> I received a file today from Franz-Xaver.Schweiger
> that combines graphics of
> your choice while it plays a midi file. It is rally
> nice and I am eager to
> share it when I can.
> 
> Tom, I appreciate you wanting to help but I really
> don't want it to come to
> that. I would never feel comfortable asking all  my
> friends to share their
> hard work and pay to have it displayed. I must say,
> that no matter what
> happens I feel  so blessed to know all of you.  I
> just cannot help feeling
> that I am I am very fortunate.
> Thanks,
> Dale
> 
> 
> Dale Bryant
> http://gfawhelp.com
> http://gfawhelp.gfa.net
> adbryant@msn.com
> adbryant@gfa.net
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tom Record"
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net>
> To: <gfabasic@gfa.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2000 5:17 PM
> Subject: [gfabasic] Dale's delimma
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--- Dale Bryant <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com>
> wrote:
> Thanks David, let's just wait and see what happens.
> 
> Dale Bryant

Yah well Dale I dint know you were retiring and stuff.
This should be something you enjoy that should =NEVER=
cost any money at all..  I feel really guilty cossing
you sometimes cause you took forever and a decade to
update what I thought was God's greener earth grass.
:)

The truth is, you're a person just like the rest of
us, not some o superhero who saves the day with
kryptonite vision or even that x-ray vision everyone
wants these days..  No, you're someone that has been
more than kind and generous and giving enough that
you've put up with me without ever mentioning that
this stuff cost you money.  Man if I saw one bill pop
thru my mailbox on anything, I'd find out what I paid
for that I shouldn't be needing to.  :)

I know for a fact I can carry at least 10% of the
weight on your shoulders.  And with the rest of us,
we can lighten that load of files.  I'm a stickler
for small space stuff so my home webpage has like
zero in it, and I was gonna wipe everything sometime
next week and start over anways.  You are more than
welcome to take advantage of the good internet space
I have to put some of those biggo files.

I'll give you my password to access it so you have
full and free reign to it.
That's 10megs right there, 10% of 100megs..

(Gentle Smile)

But you really are very kind person to have gone on
this long paying for something where nada of us did
and have not in the past including yesterday put out
a show of monetary support, please consider..

I try very hard not to put myself in a position where
friends are dependent on me for somthing that behind
their back I'm all and paying for it.

Naaah, I set my foot down pop that ol' Mr. Receipt
in their hand, >Thok!< them on their noggin and say
PAY UP Buddie !  :)

Sincerely,
David W.


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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
You have 32M RAM.  Something is sadly wrong!
TomR.


At 07:19 PM 14/03/00 -0800, you wrote:
>List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >Yahoo Mail
>> >Explorer
>> >My Home
>> >Iexplore
>> >Freeav
>> >Systray
>> >Rundll
>> >Printray
>> >Rnaapp
>> >
>> >That's it..
>
>> You are running 9 applications.  Those eat a lot of
>> RAM!  How much
>> memory do you have installed?  At DOS c:\>, type mem
>> See how much memory it says you have.  Running
>> Win98, if it's OEM
>> (came on the computer), I'd bet at least 36M.  If
>> somebody upgraded
>> an older computer to W98, you may have as little as
>> 2M!
>> 
>> Computers that came out w/ Win3.1 started off w/ 2M.
>>  The first
>> W95 'puters had only 4M.  For W95 to stay off the
>> HD, it needs
>> at least 16M!
>> TomR.
>
>
>Memory Type        Total       Used       Free
>----------------  --------   --------   --------
>Conventional          640K        36K       604K
>Upper                   0K         0K         0K
>Reserved              384K       384K         0K
>Extended (XMS)     31,744K       160K    31,584K
>----------------  --------   --------   --------
>Total memory       32,768K       580K    32,188K
>
>Total under 1 MB      640K        36K       604K
>
>Total Expanded (EMS)                   32M (33,062,912
>bytes)  
>Free Expanded (EMS)                    16M (16,777,216
>bytes)  
>
>Largest executable program size       604K (618,848
>bytes)  
>Largest free upper memory block         0K       (0
>bytes)  
>MS-DOS is resident in the high memory area.
>
>This is what I get back.
>My Internet Explorer is 4.0 too !  And 5.0 is out ?
>I'll have to download that next !  :/
>
>Aura is coming right along too !  :)
>
>Sincerely,
>David W.
>
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Select a rectangular area, upper left to lower right by
dragging the mouse w/ left button down.  Can include any
or all of the text.  Will fill w/ black over gray "X" hash.

As is usual w/ my toys, right-click to exit.

Irregular selection is still on the drawingboard... math is
NOT my strong point.

Remember, this is but ONE method of doing this.
<G>
TomR.

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Subject: [gfabasic] NEED help!
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Am NOT ashamed to ask help, just don't like having to!
This includes 0,0 in it's manouvers, & it's gotta STOP that.
I've tried trapping the situation, but all I do is cause it to crater!
It also wants to return to 0,0, when done instead of closing in on the 
last plot point.  See me thru *this* & we're on our way to an irregular 
selection, etc.  don't spark me on writing this to a file... arrays
don't like me all that much yet.  TomR.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
OPENW #1
TITLEW #1,"1st, hit the close box, *then* right-click to close!"
OPEN "o",#1,"SELECT.DAT"
DO
  PEEKEVENT
  SELECT MENU(11)
    '  CASE WM_RBUTTONDOWN /* right button is pressed
  CASE WM_LBUTTONDOWN /* left button is pressed
    DRAW_FLAG! = -1
  CASE WM_LBUTTONUP /* left button is released
    DRAW_FLAG! = -0
  CASE WM_MOUSEMOVE /* mouse is moved
    IF DRAW_FLAG! /* button is in a down condition
      X& = LOWORD(MENU(13)) /* column position of mouse
      Y& = HIWORD(MENU(13)) /* row position of mouse
      Z% ++
      PRINT #1,STR$(X&);",";STR$(Z%);".";STR$(Y&)
      COLOR 0
      PLOT X&,Y& /* draw dot
    ENDIF
  ENDSELECT
LOOP UNTIL MENU(1) = 4
PRINT #1,"**"
CLOSE #1
OPEN "i",#1,"SELECT.DAT"
DO UNTIL c$ = "**"
  LINE INPUT #1,c$
  scam0& = LEN(c$)
  scam1& = INSTR(c$,",")
  scam2& = INSTR(c$,".")
  xstart& = VAL(LEFT$(c$,scam1& - 1))
  ystart& = VAL(RIGHT$(c$,scam0& - scam2&))
  seg% = VAL(MID$(c$,(scam2& - 1) - scam1&))
  IF seg% = 1 THEN seg0% = seg%
  IF seg% = 1 THEN
    x1& = xstart&
    y1& = ystart&
  ENDIF
  IF seg% > 0 && xstart& > 0 && ystart& > 0 THEN
    LINE xstart&,ystart&,xstop&,ystop&
  ENDIF
  EXIT IF c$ = "**"
  LINE INPUT #1,c$
  scam3& = LEN(c$)
  scam4& = INSTR(c$,",")
  scam5& = INSTR(c$,".")
  xstop& = VAL(LEFT$(c$,scam4& - 1))
  ystop& = VAL(RIGHT$(c$,scam3& - scam5&))
  seg% = VAL(MID$(c$,(scam2& - 1) - scam1&))
  IF c$ = "" OR c$ = "**" THEN segF% = seg%
  IF seg0% <> 0 THEN
    x2& = xstop&
    y2& = ystop&
  ENDIF
  LINE xstart&,ystart&,xstop&,ystop&
LOOP
CLOSE #1
LINE x1,y1,x2,y2
DO UNTIL MOUSEK & 2
LOOP
CLOSEW #1

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Maybe this will help.  See the attached file.

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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
I want to thank all those who offered suggestions about having more disk
space and their kind offers of what perhaps may be a solution.  However, to
be honest, if I can't offer all the great software for download that most of
you so graciously send me I would just as soon give up on the entire web
page idea.  That, and the newsletters take up so much of my time that I have
practically no time for programming.  I must say that for me it has been
extremely rewarding for me to have so many friends who contribute so very
much. I wish I could name all of you but at the risk of hurting someone will
not mention anyone.  Well, I will mention John Findlay who helps me often
and just knows too darn much!(G)
And of course Bev Brown, who has been so helpful to me in the past.
I guess this doesn't have to go on and on so I will just say that if I can't
come to terms  with GFA I will either move or  just go back to programming.
There is always so much to learn<
Dale
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Thanks Dick, very nice.
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> Maybe this will help.  See the attached file.
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Gfa has graciously given me more web space for the GFAWHELP pages.  So, I am
back in business. My thanks to them. I would hate to not be able to share
what you send me.
Also, my thanks to those who expressed concern  about the situation
Dale

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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
GFA16
GRAPHMID.ZIP by Franz-Xaver.Schweigerr- allow selections of two bitmaps
which alternate in the display area as a midi file plays in the background.
Lots of fun with this one
BIOS Engelbert van Loock
PHOTOS Engelbert van Loock

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EXCELLENT!

Gunnar polished *my* routine & Barlik provided another of about 1/3
the code size.  Now I'll ry to bring out the rest of it.

<G>
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Gunnar cleaned up my original routine... Barlik wrote a better one.
Thanks, guys - this is how weaker programmers become stronger! TomR.

'=>>From: Barlik@aol.com
/* Modified only slightly to automatically close the figure &
/* to cut down on entries made in the file.  The file may well
/* prove useless anyway.  I modified the PAUSE... one can hold
/* the left button down & outline the area desired or simply
/* left-click an outline around the desired area.  For a *large*
/* area, the DIM()s *may* have to be increased.
/* Thank you, Barlik@aol.com - a far simpler routine that mine.
/* As usual, posted here means free use for all... <G> TomR.

DIM x(1000),y(1000)
FULLW #1
PRINT
PRINT "  Left-click *OR* left-click & drag to outline selection"
PRINT "  Right-click to end & close the selection... you *should*"
PRINT "  do this near your origin... it will close to that!"
PRINT "  Left-click to exit the routine"
DEFMOUSE 3
DO
  EXIT IF MOUSEK = 1
LOOP
x(0) = MOUSEX,y(0) = MOUSEY
WHILE MOUSEK <> 2
  WHILE MOUSEK = 1
    z = z + 1
    x(z) = MOUSEX,y(z) = MOUSEY
    LINE x(z - 1),y(z - 1),x(z),y(z)
    PAUSE 1 /* modified, TomR.
  WEND
WEND

LINE x(1),y(1),x(z),y(z) /* close figure automatically, TomR.

OPEN "o",#1,"SELECT.DAT"   'Save data if needed... mod, TomR.
FOR t = 1 TO z
  IF x(t) = x(t - 1) && y(t) = y(t - 1)
    GOTO mac
  ELSE
    PRINT #1,x(t),y(t)
  ENDIF
  mac:
NEXT t

DO
  EXIT IF MOUSEK = 1 /* added, TomR.
LOOP
CLEAR /* delete all variables & arrays, TomR.
CLOSE #1
CLOSEW #1

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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Hey, thetas neat. What do you call it?

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> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Gunnar cleaned up my original routine... Barlik wrote a better one.
> Thanks, guys - this is how weaker programmers become stronger! TomR.
>
> '=>>From: Barlik@aol.com
> /* Modified only slightly to automatically close the figure &
> /* to cut down on entries made in the file.  The file may well
mine.
> /* As usual, posted here means free use for all... <G> TomR.
>
> DIM x(1000),y(1000)
> FULLW #1
> PRINT
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
The computer is MM ready... can play various flic formats, etc.

Question: how to record the audio some of them have.

*Some* flix have a soundtrack... how to set up to record to *.wav
while the flic is playing?  I *don't* want to have to set up a
cassette recorder between the speakers, then feed this to the
recorder appl afterward... there *must* be some way to record
it while the flic is playing.

The flic may be *.mpg, *.avi, *.mov, etc.  When I convert any of
those formats to a codec-compressed stand-alone *.exe, it would
be nice to also be able to play the *.wav.

Just a point of curiosity - isn't "do or die" <G>.
<G>
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Now I REALLY have another to envy!  One smart cookie!  Thanks, Dave!!!
Barlik@aol.com

DIM x(1000),y(1000)
FULLW #1
PRINT
PRINT "  Left-click *OR* left-click & drag to outline selection"
PRINT "  Right-click to end & close the selection... you *should*"
PRINT "  do this near your origin... it will close to that!"
PRINT "  Left-click to exit the routine"
? " Press Spacebar to Erase Line Segments"
? "Long Straight lines can be drawn by clicking mouse."
DEFMOUSE 3
eraser=GETNEAREST(255,255,255)
COLOR 15
DO
  EXIT IF MOUSEK = 1
LOOP
z=1
x(z) = MOUSEX,y(z) = MOUSEY
PLOT x(z),y(z)
'z=1
WHILE MOUSEK <> 2
  WHILE MOUSEK = 1
    IF ABS(MOUSEX-x(z-1))>5 OR ABS(MOUSEY-y(z-1))>5  'Filter for 5 pixel
movement
      z = z + 1
      x(z) = MOUSEX,y(z) = MOUSEY
      DRAW TO x(z),y(z)
    ENDIF
    PAUSE 1 /* modified, TomR.
  WEND
  PEEKEVENT
  IF MENU(12)=32   'adder eraser routine
    PEEKEVENT
    COLOR eraser
    PLOT x(z),y(z)
    DRAW TO x(z-1),y(z-1)
    z=z-1
    COLOR 0
  ENDIF
WEND
LINE x(1),y(1),x(z),y(z) /* close figure automatically, TomR.
z=z+1
x(z)=x(1),y(z)=y(1)

' Added fill routine ... Barlik
CLS 0
x(0)=x(1),y(0)=y(1)
COLOR GETNEAREST(255,255,255)
POLYFILL z,x(),y() 'OFFSET _X/2,_Y/2
WHILE MOUSEK<>2
WEND

OPEN "o",#1,"SELECT.DAT"   'Save data if needed... mod, TomR.
' Need this for reading back...Barlik
PRINT #1,z
FOR t = 1 TO z
  WRITE #1,x(t),y(t)
NEXT t
DO
  EXIT IF MOUSEK = 1 /* added, TomR.
LOOP
CLEAR /* delete all variables & arrays, TomR.
CLOSE #1
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Barlik@aol.com is Dick, NOT Dave.  Time to defrag or reformat the mind.
Sorry, Dick.
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Well, I have finally returned back to the Land
of the Living !

What happened ?

1) I took the great escape and jumped off the
   Sears Roebuck tower ??  No..

2) Got arrested for flattening my nose too many
   times by chasing parked cars ?  No..

3) Got abducted by luscious alien women who
   brought me back to their home planet to
   conduct unusual and exquisite sexual
   experiments ??  No..  (Rats..  This one
   sounded pretty good tho)

Nooo..  My Win98 took one good look at me and
said I hate you David, and I said well the feeling
is mutual.  Ka-chonk.  My computer died..

Well, I thought this was an excellent opportunity
to install Win3.1 and leave that Devil Win98 behind..

No such luck, all the free internet providers,
(I've got 6 mind you), =REQUIRE= Win98.

(SIIIGHH)  So after countless formats, rebootings,
reinstallings, and probably wearing the patience of
my Dad down to one shiny pin needle, we got the
computer back up.  Hey !  What can I say, it's running
much better.  I =NOW= have Email capability so I
won't have to rely on YAHOO (even tho they're a good
mail provider) :)

And I've 26 Email !  I feel a lotta love in this
room right now.  (Reflective Moment)

[G-R-O-U-P] HUG !   :)

Now I can get back to more important things like
Fruity Jam and Aura for Wind Chimes !

I'm glad to be back !

Sincerely,
David W.

Yahh and don't think I noticed EVERY single one of
you talking behind my back !  :P


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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:


--- Tom Record
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> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> You have 32M RAM.  Something is sadly wrong!
> TomR.

Well..  It's not too bad.  I reinstalled every thing
all over and again and its running much better now !

I'm just not going to install a gajillion things I
don't need that I try once delete later.  :)

Sincerely,
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--- Tom Record
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> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Am NOT ashamed to ask help, just don't like having
> to!
> This includes 0,0 in it's manouvers, & it's gotta
> STOP that.
> I've tried trapping the situation, but all I do is
> cause it to crater!
> It also wants to return to 0,0, when done instead of
> closing in on the 
> last plot point.  See me thru *this* & we're on our
> way to an irregular 
> selection, etc.  don't spark me on writing this to a
> file... arrays
> don't like me all that much yet.  TomR.
> 

Greets Tom:

Yah I'm going to spend all weekend answering my
old mail !  :)

Okay, are you just wanting to draw a box around a
selection with the mouse or is it something more
than that ?

Let me know and I'll be glad to help ya !

Sincerely,
David W.



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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:


--- Dale Bryant <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com>
> wrote:
> I want to thank all those who offered suggestions
> about having more disk
> space and their kind offers of what perhaps may be a
> solution.  However, to
> be honest, if I can't offer all the great software
> for download that most of
> you so graciously send me I would just as soon give
> up on the entire web
> page idea.  That, and the newsletters take up so
> much of my time that I have
> practically no time for programming.  I must say
> that for me it has been
> extremely rewarding for me to have so many friends
> who contribute so very
> much. I wish I could name all of you but at the risk
> of hurting someone will
> not mention anyone.  Well, I will mention John
> Findlay who helps me often
> and just knows too darn much!(G)
> And of course Bev Brown, who has been so helpful to
> me in the past.
> I guess this doesn't have to go on and on so I will
> just say that if I can't
> come to terms  with GFA I will either move or  just
> go back to programming.
> There is always so much to learn<
> Dale

Greets Dale:

Yah I'm answering this mail a little long in the
tooth with shadows in my sleep.  :)

Okee, as mentioned, if we (meaning me, Tom, Russell,
Mr. Loock), and company put our own works on our own
homepages, that should cut down on the number of
megabytes that are needed for your page.

I must say that I should never be absent more than
15 minutes a day in GFAForum or I'll have a
*CRUNCH* of mail waiting for me !  :)

Sincerely,
David W.


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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:


--- Dale Bryant <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com>
> wrote:
> Gfa has graciously given me more web space for the
> GFAWHELP pages.  So, I am
> back in business. My thanks to them. I would hate to
> not be able to share
> what you send me.
> Also, my thanks to those who expressed concern 
> about the situation
> Dale

Hey Dale !

I'm glad to hear that !  I kinna figured they would
realize which side their bread was buttered on if you
took away their toaster.  :)

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:


--- Tom Record
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> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Gunnar cleaned up my original routine... Barlik
> wrote a better one.
> Thanks, guys - this is how weaker programmers become
> stronger! TomR.

Ah !  Tom just now realized that ??  :)

Okay you lot, I have a question now.

Since you can only declare variables as being local,
and anything not defined is considered global, how
do you define local variables for an array ?

PROCEDURE Complex(A,B,C,D)
  LOCAL X,Y,Z()
  DIM Z(500)

? ? ?

Nope, this won't work.

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17/03/2000 11:05:26 PM   remove.zip (19.4k)  GoHip

We all get "scares" & "bewares", but this one *may* be authentic...

The file, remove.zip, contains an authentic *.exe that, internally, 
says it is a browser enhancement removal tool.  McAfee OKs the file, 
saying it is NOT infected with anything.

Looking into the file, I see it is aimed at Eudora, MSIE & Netscape.  
I zipped it to get under GFA's 40K limitation.

Sounds like some European country has a phone number system like the 
900 series in the U.S. - $$$ per minute, with the owner of the number 
getting the majority of the $$$.  The last time I checked into this, 
AT&T got $0.50/min.

The following was sent to me by an acquaintance in The Netherlands:

--------------------

A WARNING goes out to everybody!. I've been getting e-mails from 
people saying they received a 500 or 600 USD phonebill from AT&T. I AM 
NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS! I do know what caused it. There are some new 
plug-ins out described as "multimedia enhancers" or something like 
that, that will 'cause your Internet connection to disconnect and 
reconnect through a number somewhere overseas. At multiple dollars a 
minute of course. There are even "plugins" out there that mess up your 
system, even sign all your sent e-mail with their site's URL. GoHip is 
one of those companies doing that. Be careful with what you download...

I received an e-mail from a friend that might help people out that are 
already affected by this "virus": I had GoHip.com attach itself to my 
system and by going through abuse.com I was able to get an email to 
gohip who in turn sent me a file called remove.exe that totally 
removed gohip from my system. Cheeky bastards inserted themselves as 
my home page and put a signature onto my emails. Let your readers know 
about this, it might save them alot of heartache.


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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Note of advice/caution here... you're running W98, which
much like W95 most likely makes registry intries for everything 
install.  You may delete the appl, but only semi-completely!
Any registry entries are left unless an uninstaller knocks'em
down & even then, they are't removed from the file, just marked
as "deactivated".  It's my understanding that the registry has
to read the whole file, ANYWAY!  That's part of the slow-down!
<G>
TomR.


At 06:13 PM 17/03/00 -0800, you wrote:
>List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>
>--- Tom Record
><tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> List Member Tom Record
>> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> You have 32M RAM.  Something is sadly wrong!
>> TomR.
>
>Well..  It's not too bad.  I reinstalled every thing
>all over and again and its running much better now !
>
>I'm just not going to install a gajillion things I
>don't need that I try once delete later.  :)
>
>Sincerely,
>David W.
>
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Davie
You *could* go to Win95a & satisfy the free ISPs, etc.
They work fine on mine.

Your ears must be faultless... we were whispering among ourselves <G>.
<G>
TomR.



At 03:59 PM 17/03/00 -0800, you wrote:
>List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Well, I have finally returned back to the Land
>of the Living !
>
>What happened ?
>
>1) I took the great escape and jumped off the
>   Sears Roebuck tower ??  No..
>
>2) Got arrested for flattening my nose too many
>   times by chasing parked cars ?  No..
>
>3) Got abducted by luscious alien women who
>   brought me back to their home planet to
>   conduct unusual and exquisite sexual
>   experiments ??  No..  (Rats..  This one
>   sounded pretty good tho)
>
>Nooo..  My Win98 took one good look at me and
>said I hate you David, and I said well the feeling
>is mutual.  Ka-chonk.  My computer died..
>
>Well, I thought this was an excellent opportunity
>to install Win3.1 and leave that Devil Win98 behind..
>
>No such luck, all the free internet providers,
>(I've got 6 mind you), =REQUIRE= Win98.
>
>(SIIIGHH)  So after countless formats, rebootings,
>reinstallings, and probably wearing the patience of
>my Dad down to one shiny pin needle, we got the
>computer back up.  Hey !  What can I say, it's running
>much better.  I =NOW= have Email capability so I
>won't have to rely on YAHOO (even tho they're a good
>mail provider) :)
>
>And I've 26 Email !  I feel a lotta love in this
>room right now.  (Reflective Moment)
>
>[G-R-O-U-P] HUG !   :)
>
>Now I can get back to more important things like
>Fruity Jam and Aura for Wind Chimes !
>
>I'm glad to be back !
>
>Sincerely,
>David W.
>
>Yahh and don't think I noticed EVERY single one of
>you talking behind my back !  :P
>
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Gunnar fixed *that* one, then Dick Barlik came up w/ a
much faster one in about 1/3 the code.

Be more than happy to have your input... what I'm working
toward is an irregular selection routine... wanna pick that
one girl out of a crowd to lighten/darken/cut/copy or past
into another image?  This is proving to be more in *your* line
than mine <G>!  Will send you copies of Dick's goodies if you
want to play.
<G>
TomR.



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>> List Member Tom Record
>> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> Am NOT ashamed to ask help, just don't like having
>> to!
>> This includes 0,0 in it's manouvers, & it's gotta
>> STOP that.
>> I've tried trapping the situation, but all I do is
>> cause it to crater!
>> It also wants to return to 0,0, when done instead of
>> closing in on the 
>> last plot point.  See me thru *this* & we're on our
>> way to an irregular 
>> selection, etc.  don't spark me on writing this to a
>> file... arrays
>> don't like me all that much yet.  TomR.
>> 
>
>Greets Tom:
>
>Yah I'm going to spend all weekend answering my
>old mail !  :)
>
>Okay, are you just wanting to draw a box around a
>selection with the mouse or is it something more
>than that ?
>
>Let me know and I'll be glad to help ya !
>
>Sincerely,
>David W.
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Ok, gang.
Things are progressing pretty fast in some areas & draggin their 
heels in others.  With Dick's help, a new & SHOULD BE easy way to
pick out some irregular-shaped object in an image for doing most
any kind of operation has come out of the confusion of late.

_I_ *think* I know how to finish the job, but can't keep my mind
on it & piddlin around on the net while I think only brings other 
things to mind for me so I'm enlisting DavidW. to help since he
readily sees easier ways for some of what I do.  When we get done
w/ *this* project, I have another that involves translating a mess 
of things from LB to GFA-W(16).  *These* will give us more to do
with images in an editor.  I will try to do the editor, but suspect
I'll need to enlist Eberhard's help.

I've been advised my lighten/darken routines are crud, altho, in truth,
they're just a tiny change away from something great.  I'll make the change!

Flip V & flip H are in the translation stage, as is "invert" & grayscale.

If anybody has something to offer, jump right in - I'll never reach market
w/ any of this, so it's ongoing for the benefit of the group as a whole.
It ceased being a "personal project" a long time ago.

Perhaps Roland has been playing w/ the warp info I sent him?
<G>
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
HI David,
GFA has graciously offered me more space so I am ready to go.
Dale

> Okee, as mentioned, if we (meaning me, Tom, Russell,
> Mr. Loock), and company put our own works on our own
> homepages, that should cut down on the number of
> megabytes that are needed for your page.
>
> I must say that I should never be absent more than
> 15 minutes a day in GFAForum or I'll have a
> *CRUNCH* of mail waiting for me !  :)
>
> Sincerely,
> David W.
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List Member "Malcolm Jack Howard" <machoward@bigpond.com> wrote:
I want to detect the presence of my program cd without triggering a "cannot
read drive xxx" in Win 98 if the cd drive has no cd.

With Win 95 there's no problem - a simple IF EXIST(drive:\file$) is fine
where file$ is a file known to exist on that cd. But Win 98 produces the
error message "cannot read ...".

I've tried the TRY/CATCH combination as:

ok&=0
GOSUB check_cd_drive
IF ok&=0
..........
.........
ELSE
.........
..........
CLOSE #1
ENDIF
END

PROCEDURE check_cd_drive
  TRY
    OPEN "I",#1,"drive:\file$"
    ok&=1
  CATCH
RETURN


Again Win 95 is fine but Win 98 continues to give a "cannot read drive xxx"
message.

I had thought the TRY/CATCH would solve the problem. Am I wrong that the
error message should not occur? If If not what am I doing wrong, if so is
there another way of detecting the correct cd without triggering the error
message if there is no cd in the drive?


Unfortunately, I don't have a Win 98 PC to play around with the code and
there is no info in the documentation I have about TRY/CATCH and its syntax
and limitations

Mac



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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I received an e-mail from a friend that might help
> people out that are 
> already affected by this "virus": I had GoHip.com
> attach itself to my 
> system and by going through abuse.com I was able to
> get an email to 
> gohip who in turn sent me a file called remove.exe
> that totally 
> removed gohip from my system. Cheeky bastards
> inserted themselves as 
> my home page and put a signature onto my emails. Let
> your readers know 
> about this, it might save them alot of heartache.

Well Tom, I haven't had a virus yet, and someone
would =REALLY= have to work at it to charge me a phone
bill considering I'm in an institution where you can't
make any outgoing or receive incoming calls outside
my local areacode.

On a different note, I am using RealJukebox and
started to record a bit of nice music from Lunar
when I noticed that it said it could record the
entire CD in 3megs !  Well, I tried one track and
found it crunch that baby down to 120k for a two
minute music track !  It also breezed thru it in
about 20 seconds !  It's silly tho because that's
faster than the CD music that's playing which it's
supposed to keep time to but the .RMX files it
creates are correct to a bean the right music with
no distortion ??

If I change =ANY= of the
recording options (which start out as null), I
lose this marvelous compression and it goes back to
30megs for a single CD (which is average for
compression).

My question is this, what the ! is going on ?
I only found this out by installing and removing
RealJukebox 3 times in a row.  Once I change anything
for recording, it loses this technique !

A single track for anything else, even what Jukebox
considers worst quality, mono, 8bit only, (the
settings won't go any lower), pops out a fat 1meg
file per track !

Can someone please tell me what it is and what is
going on ?  It also saves in a strange format
called .RMX.  They are true playable tho !  I tried
it under RealPlayer7 with the CD popped out and it
played just fine !  Wow !  I can record full complete
CDs in under 3megs ??

I'm uploading "lunar1.zip" to my homepage so you
can try it out on your own nice RealAudio players.

http://www.geocities.com/dw817/rmx/lunar1.zip

If you have any information on this rare format
please let me know !

Sincerely,
David W.

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--- Micha=B3_Sejfried <42810730@pro.onet.pl> wrote:
> Hi David.
>=20
>=20
> I've problem with mini Windows. I can't run it.
> Always when I tried to run DOSX.EXE I saw message on
> screen: PROGMAN.EXE.
> What is this. Could you help me.
>=20
> 42810730@pro.onet.pl
>=20
> Best Regards
>=20
>     Mike.

Hi Mike:

I forwarded you to the main GFAForum, because
that's a good question, I couldn't get mine to work
either.

Hey folks if someone out there can get that MINI
Windows to work, please PKZIP it up with path
recursion if necessary and upload it to a good
spot so we can all try it out !

Thanks !

Sincerely,
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--- Tom Record
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> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Davie
> You *could* go to Win95a & satisfy the free ISPs,
> etc.
> They work fine on mine.
> 
> Your ears must be faultless... we were whispering
> among ourselves <G>.
> <G>
> TomR.

Well Win98 is working well, and, for the first time,
I have a =GOOD= installation of both RealAudio and
Internet Explorer 5.0 !  It just doesn't get any
better than this !

Yah I heard something in the conversation stream,
like David's not a Dick or something..
I should hope not !!!  :)

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--- Tom Record
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> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Note of advice/caution here... you're running W98,
> which
> much like W95 most likely makes registry intries for
> everything 
> install.  You may delete the appl, but only
> semi-completely!
> Any registry entries are left unless an uninstaller
> knocks'em
> down & even then, they are't removed from the file,
> just marked
> as "deactivated".  It's my understanding that the
> registry has
> to read the whole file, ANYWAY!  That's part of the
> slow-down!
> <G>
> TomR.

Yah I had to manually deinstall FreeNet from the
registry (that took a-while), because I wanted to use
their older version which did not require the
800x600 screen (which I truly despise), and instead
said OKAY with 640x480.  What did I do ???

I installed the new one, paused it at one critical
point, read in the file length of the new one they
insisted on me running, I had already made a backup
of the one I wanted to run, wrote a quick QB proggy
to pad 0's (zeros) on the end of the smaller older
version, swapped it in place of the one they just
installed, told it to continue, and lo and behold,
they thought they finally got me to run their new
software that forced 800x600 down your gullet !

Well, if they ever get around to asking me isn't it
better now that I finally accepted their 800x600 mode,
I'll say I'll tell you after I stop drooling over the
640x480 screen I have right now !

Sincerely,
David W.


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--- Tom Record
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> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Gunnar fixed *that* one, then Dick Barlik came up w/
> a
> much faster one in about 1/3 the code.
> 
> Be more than happy to have your input... what I'm
> working
> toward is an irregular selection routine... wanna
> pick that
> one girl out of a crowd to lighten/darken/cut/copy
> or past
> into another image?  This is proving to be more in
> *your* line
> than mine <G>!  Will send you copies of Dick's
> goodies if you
> want to play.
> <G>
> TomR.

Greets Tom:

The way I would handle any sized region that can have
curves, lines, polygons, or otherwise to copy to a
buffer would be to use 4 screens:

0) Main display - (true display)
1) Virtual: Work page
2) Virtual: Destination page
3) Virtual: Whiteout

(Making use of Russell's Windowlock where every
 machine cycle you are copying page 1 to your main
 viewable screen)

Although it shows just your work page, it is actually
drawing to the page Whiteout as well.  Whiteout is
a white screen with black areas showing what you are
copying, when you are ready to transfer, use:

APage 3
GET 0,0,_X,_Y,I_Whiteout
Apage 1
GET 0,0,_X,_Y,I_Temp
PUT 0,0,I_Whiteout,SRCAND
GET 0,0,_X,_Y,I_Snip
PUT 0,0,I_Temp
APage 2

PUT X,Y,I_Snip,SRCINVERT
' ^ Right here is where you plot your clip,
'   You can use SRCINVERT to plot it XOR, or
'   choose one of your own favorite insertion
'   methods.

FREEBMP I_Whiteout
FREEBMP I_Snip
FREEBMP I_Temp

This will handle any sized clip of any shape or form.

Hope This Helps !

Let me know if you'd like to know how to mask insert
it as well !  That's just a few more steps !  :)

Sincerely,
David W.


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List Member "Malcolm Jack Howard" <machoward@bigpond.com> wrote:
>Am not sure, but can you try an ON ERROR GOSUB xxxx, have a timed
appearance,
>not an ALERT or dialog, telling you it's not there?  Seems to me it should
>allow an empty drive to NOT kill things.


I am amzed - no disgusted - that the absence of the disk should cause such
trouble. I've spent three weeks now with various combinations without any
success. Win 95 works with all the various code sequences but Win 98 with
none. The backward compatibility of Windows is laughable in the light of
such.

I feel that TRY/CATCH should be capable of working but there seems to be
something about this particular error message that just won't be "caught".

>"timed appearance", meaning it shows up & stays while a timer or PAUSE
>counts down, then goes away... NO OK button, etc.


I didn't include it in the code but I do have my own message screen that is
intended to come up with the missing disk (it all works fine with the WRONG
disk). Essentially the message asks the user to insert his cd. But the
program is a game with some aesthetic appeal and the black text on a grey
background of the Windows message is inappropriate to say the least.

The message doesn't misbehave in any way - click on continue or cancel
button (I don't know which as I have never personally seen the message) and
the program continues to my own message screen and onwards.

Anyone know why the "cannot read drive ..." is not caught by TRY/CATCH in
Win 98 (maybe only certain versions of Win 98 - I don't know)?

Mac Howard


800, you wrote:
>>List Member "Malcolm Jack Howard" <machoward@bigpond.com> wrote:
>>I want to detect the presence of my program cd without triggering a
"cannot
>>read drive xxx" in Win 98 if the cd drive has no cd.
>>
>>With Win 95 there's no problem - a simple IF EXIST(drive:\file$) is fine
>>where file$ is a file known to exist on that cd. But Win 98 produces the
>>error message "cannot read ...".
>>
>>I've tried the TRY/CATCH combination as:
>>
>>ok&=0
>>GOSUB check_cd_drive
>>IF ok&=0
>>..........
>>.........
>>ELSE
>>.........
>>..........
>>CLOSE #1
>>ENDIF
>>END
>>
>>PROCEDURE check_cd_drive
>>  TRY
>>    OPEN "I",#1,"drive:\file$"
>>    ok&=1
>>  CATCH
>>RETURN
>>
>>
>>Again Win 95 is fine but Win 98 continues to give a "cannot read drive
xxx"
>>message.
>>
>>I had thought the TRY/CATCH would solve the problem. Am I wrong that the
>>error message should not occur? If If not what am I doing wrong, if so is
>>there another way of detecting the correct cd without triggering the error
>>message if there is no cd in the drive?
>>
>>
>>Unfortunately, I don't have a Win 98 PC to play around with the code and
>>there is no info in the documentation I have about TRY/CATCH and its
syntax
>>and limitations
>>
>>Mac
>>
>>
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Mac
Am not sure, but can you try an ON ERROR GOSUB xxxx, have a timed appearance,
not an ALERT or dialog, telling you it's not there?  Seems to me it should
allow an empty drive to NOT kill things.

"timed appearance", meaning it shows up & stays while a timer or PAUSE
counts down, then goes away... NO OK button, etc.

<G>
TomR.


At 12:52 AM 19/03/00 +0800, you wrote:
>List Member "Malcolm Jack Howard" <machoward@bigpond.com> wrote:
>I want to detect the presence of my program cd without triggering a "cannot
>read drive xxx" in Win 98 if the cd drive has no cd.
>
>With Win 95 there's no problem - a simple IF EXIST(drive:\file$) is fine
>where file$ is a file known to exist on that cd. But Win 98 produces the
>error message "cannot read ...".
>
>I've tried the TRY/CATCH combination as:
>
>ok&=0
>GOSUB check_cd_drive
>IF ok&=0
>..........
>.........
>ELSE
>.........
>..........
>CLOSE #1
>ENDIF
>END
>
>PROCEDURE check_cd_drive
>  TRY
>    OPEN "I",#1,"drive:\file$"
>    ok&=1
>  CATCH
>RETURN
>
>
>Again Win 95 is fine but Win 98 continues to give a "cannot read drive xxx"
>message.
>
>I had thought the TRY/CATCH would solve the problem. Am I wrong that the
>error message should not occur? If If not what am I doing wrong, if so is
>there another way of detecting the correct cd without triggering the error
>message if there is no cd in the drive?
>
>
>Unfortunately, I don't have a Win 98 PC to play around with the code and
>there is no info in the documentation I have about TRY/CATCH and its syntax
>and limitations
>
>Mac
>
>
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
 Perhaps this is the true reason behind the government's antitrust
 persecution of Microsoft:
 
 Go into Microsoft Works or Word, then type (copy from here):
 
 1.  I'd like Bill Clinton to resign
 
 2.  Highlight it
 
 3.  Go to Tools and click on Language, then Thesaurus
  
 4.  What happens next is a look into Bill Gates' sense of humor

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
 The following does NOT recognize less than whole numbers... WHY?????????????

   FOR chaz% = 1 TO 10 /* number of runs
      chico% = 1 + (chaz% / 10) /* set amount to change by
      PRINT chico% /*************************************** ALWAYS 1 !  WHY???
      TEXT Px& - 30,10,STR$(chaz%)
      FOR j& = 0 TO bmp.bmWidth /* x plane
        FOR i& = 0 TO bmp.bmHeight /* y plane
          dwColor% = GetPixel(hdc&,j&,i&)
          nRed% = GetRValue(dwColor%)
          nRed% = nRed% * chico% /******************* ALWAYS 1!  WHY???
          IF nRed% > 255 THEN nRed% = 255
          IF nRed% < 0 THEN nRed% = 0
          ngreen% = GetGValue(dwColor%)
          ngreen% = ngreen% * chico% /******************* ALWAYS 1!  WHY???
          IF nGreen% > 255 THEN nGreen% = 255
          IF nGreen% < 0 THEN nGreen% = 0
          nBlue% = GetBValue(dwColor%)
          nBlue% = nBlue% * chico% /******************* ALWAYS 1!  WHY???
          IF nBlue% > 255 THEN nBlue% = 255
          IF nBlue% < 0 THEN nBlue% = 0
          ~SetPixel(hdc&,j& + bmp.bmWidth,i&,RGB(nRed%,ngreen%,nBlue%))
          SETMOUSE j& + bmp.bmWidth,20
        NEXT i&
      NEXT j&
    NEXT chaz%

Sob!!
TomR.

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List Member John Kuehn <jkuehn@ex-pressnet.com> wrote:
What is it accepted method of clearing out the keyboard input buffer,
prior to an INPUT instruction?
I want to eliminate keyboard characters already processed during the
following delay timer wait loop

PROCEDURE wait(wait%)
  t% = TIMER
  WHILE TIMER < ADD(t%,wait%)    /* delay for wait% milliseconds
    PEEKEVENT
    SELECT MENU(1)                          /* Is there a pressed key or
selected menu item?
    CASE 1
      inkey = MENU(12)                         /* get key value
      @EvalKey()                                    /* process it
'                                                             /* I would
like to be able to kill the already processed input key here
    CASE 20
      @EvalMenu()                                  /* process selected
menu items
    ENDSELECT
  WEND
RETURN

The above snippet allows for the 'on the fly' processing of menus and
single key functions, but, subsequent INPUT commands always contain all
of the characters already processed.



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List Member John Kuehn <jkuehn@ex-pressnet.com> wrote:


Tom Record wrote:

> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>  The following does NOT recognize less than whole numbers... WHY?????????????
>
>    FOR chaz% = 1 TO 10 /* number of runs
>       chico% = 1 + (chaz% / 10) /* set amount to change by
>       PRINT chico% /*************************************** ALWAYS 1 !  WHY???
>

As page 2-1 of volume 1 of the GFA Basic for windows manual Programmers Guide 1
states
only uncast variables without suffixes or those with the '#' suffix are 8 byte
floating point variables
all other non string variables are of the type integer and are truncated at the
decimal point

Double   #  8 bytes floating point
Long      % 4 bytes integer (signed)
Word    & 2 bytes  integer (signed)
Byte       |  1 byte    integer (unsigned)
Boolean !  1 bit       integer (signed?)


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List Member "Malcolm Jack Howard" <machoward@bigpond.com> wrote:
>I use the following code to check if a drive is ready (Change "E" to
>whatever drive you are checking):
>
>~SetErrorMode(1)
>c=FSFIRST("E:\*.*",-1)
>~SetErrorMode(0)
>
>"c" will be zero if the drive is ready, or will show some other number if
>there is no disk in the drive, the drive is disabled, etc. This works
>under all versions of Windows, and works for floppy or removable disks as
>well.
>
>Hope this helps,


Thanks a lot, Anthony, it sounds like just the thing I need. I'll check it
out.

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
This is good information, but even better would be,
how do you stuff keys into the keyboard buffer ?

Suppose someone were to write a program that
recognized
both shift keys tapped at the same time and at that
point, with your GFABasic program running in the
background without a window, it would stuff keys
directly into the keyboard buffer which would also
affect Notepad, GFAEditor, or any other program
that is waiting for normal keypresses !

This would be useful !  I know how to use OUT in
QB4.5 to do it, but it's not 100% effective !

Sincerely,
David W.

To clear a keybuffer, I'd use:
WHILE INKEY$>""
WEND

Which may just be a bit too single minded and not
taking advantage of GFA's more powerful commands.  :)



--- John Kuehn <jkuehn@ex-pressnet.com> wrote:
> List Member John Kuehn <jkuehn@ex-pressnet.com>
> wrote:
> What is it accepted method of clearing out the
> keyboard input buffer,
> prior to an INPUT instruction?
> I want to eliminate keyboard characters already
> processed during the
> following delay timer wait loop
> 
> PROCEDURE wait(wait%)
>   t% = TIMER
>   WHILE TIMER < ADD(t%,wait%)    /* delay for wait%
> milliseconds
>     PEEKEVENT
>     SELECT MENU(1)                          /* Is
> there a pressed key or
> selected menu item?
>     CASE 1
>       inkey = MENU(12)                         /*
> get key value
>       @EvalKey()                                   
> /* process it
> '                                                   
>          /* I would
> like to be able to kill the already processed input
> key here
>     CASE 20
>       @EvalMenu()                                 
> /* process selected
> menu items
>     ENDSELECT
>   WEND
> RETURN
> 
> The above snippet allows for the 'on the fly'
> processing of menus and
> single key functions, but, subsequent INPUT commands
> always contain all
> of the characters already processed.
> 
> 
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List Member Anthony Watson <awatson@pacifier.com> wrote:
Malcom,

> I want to detect the presence of my program cd without triggering a "cannot
> read drive xxx" in Win 98 if the cd drive has no cd.

I use the following code to check if a drive is ready (Change "E" to
whatever drive you are checking):

~SetErrorMode(1)
c=FSFIRST("E:\*.*",-1)
~SetErrorMode(0)

"c" will be zero if the drive is ready, or will show some other number if
there is no disk in the drive, the drive is disabled, etc. This works
under all versions of Windows, and works for floppy or removable disks as
well.

Hope this helps,

Anthony Watson
Mountain Software
support@mountain-software.com
http://www.mountain-software.com

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Touch=E9, John... Thanks!
<G>
TomR.



At 06:04 AM 19/03/00 -0500, you wrote:
>List Member John Kuehn <jkuehn@ex-pressnet.com> wrote:
>
>
>Tom Record wrote:
>
>> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net>=
 wrote:
>>  The following does NOT recognize less than whole numbers...=
 WHY?????????????
>>
>>    FOR chaz% =3D 1 TO 10 /* number of runs
>>       chico% =3D 1 + (chaz% / 10) /* set amount to change by
>>       PRINT chico% /*************************************** ALWAYS 1 !
WHY???
>>
>
>As page 2-1 of volume 1 of the GFA Basic for windows manual Programmers=
 Guide 1
>states
>only uncast variables without suffixes or those with the '#' suffix are 8=
 byte
>floating point variables
>all other non string variables are of the type integer and are truncated at=
 the
>decimal point
>
>Double   #  8 bytes floating point
>Long      % 4 bytes integer (signed)
>Word    & 2 bytes  integer (signed)
>Byte       |  1 byte    integer (unsigned)
>Boolean !  1 bit       integer (signed?)
>
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List Member "Roland Walter" <roland@rowalt.de> wrote:

> --- Micha_Sejfried <42810730@pro.onet.pl> wrote:
> > Hi David.
> > 
> > 
> > I've problem with mini Windows. I can't run it.
> > Always when I tried to run DOSX.EXE I saw message on
> > screen: PROGMAN.EXE.
> > What is this. Could you help me.

??? Did You really start the Mini Windows?
There is the entry 
SHELL=SETUP.EXE
in the system.ini of the Mini Windows. In the normal
Windows 3.x You will find
SHELL=PROGMAN.EXE
instead.
You must replace it with an own shell program or
with an application You like to start when Mini Winows
is loaded.

Bye, Roland

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hey Anthony !
That's a good technique !
But how do you determine if the drive you are
looking at is:
1) Mounted
2) External (like a zipdrive)
3) CD-ROM

or otherwise ?

I, too, am putting together a graphic file manager
and want to have little icons for all occasions of
types of drives.

Thanks for the prior info !

Sincerely,
David W.

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> List Member Anthony Watson <awatson@pacifier.com>
> wrote:
> Malcom,
> 
> > I want to detect the presence of my program cd
> without triggering a "cannot
> > read drive xxx" in Win 98 if the cd drive has no
> cd.
> 
> I use the following code to check if a drive is
> ready (Change "E" to
> whatever drive you are checking):
> 
> ~SetErrorMode(1)
> c=FSFIRST("E:\*.*",-1)
> ~SetErrorMode(0)
> 
> "c" will be zero if the drive is ready, or will show
> some other number if
> there is no disk in the drive, the drive is
> disabled, etc. This works
> under all versions of Windows, and works for floppy
> or removable disks as
> well.
> 
> Hope this helps,
> 
> Anthony Watson
> Mountain Software
> support@mountain-software.com
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Hi David,

> But how do you determine if the drive you are
> looking at is:
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> 
> or otherwise ?

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List Member "Russell Hayward" <russ@softhome.net> wrote:
Hi David,

> This is good information, but even better would be,
> how do you stuff keys into the keyboard buffer ?

You could use the 32-bit function keybd_event, but that would require
thunking, and I know you dislike that. Someone else will probably be able to
give you an INTR call to do it.

> Suppose someone were to write a program that
> recognized
> both shift keys tapped at the same time and at that
> point, with your GFABasic program running in the
> background without a window, it would stuff keys
> directly into the keyboard buffer which would also
> affect Notepad, GFAEditor, or any other program
> that is waiting for normal keypresses !

I have a program like that, not written by me unfortunately. It's called
Shortkeys, they used to have a free version but I don't know if they still
do. It certainly is very useful.

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Hi Tom,

>  The following does NOT recognize less than whole numbers...
WHY?????????????
>
>    FOR chaz% = 1 TO 10 /* number of runs
>       chico% = 1 + (chaz% / 10) /* set amount to change by
>       PRINT chico% /*************************************** ALWAYS 1 !
WHY???
>       ...
>     NEXT chaz%

Did you really get 1 for every cycle? That would be very strange, the 10th
cycle should be 2, it is when I run it here.

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List Member Anthony Watson <awatson@pacifier.com> wrote:
David,

> Hey Anthony ! That's a good technique !
> But how do you determine if the drive you are looking at is:
> 1) Mounted
> 2) External (like a zipdrive)
> 3) CD-ROM

Russell already supplied a good example of how to do this, but you
can also try the following. I know it works under Win 3.1, Win95, and
Win98, but it isn't exactly the best programming practice. Ha. Ha.

DEFINT "a-z"
FOR a=2 TO 15
  a$="Drive "+CHR$(a+65)+": "
  b=GetDriveType(a)
  IF b=DRIVE_FIXED
    PRINT a$+" Fixed"
  ELSE IF b=DRIVE_REMOVABLE
    PRINT a$+" Removable"
  ELSE IF b=DRIVE_REMOTE
    cd_flag=0
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    IF _BX<>0
      ~INTR($2F,_CX=a,_AX=$150B,_ES=0,_DI=0)
      cd_flag=_AX
    ENDIF
    IF cd_flag=0
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    ELSE
      PRINT a$+" CD ROM"
    ENDIF
  ENDIF
NEXT a
KEYGET xxx      

Take care,

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Mine *might* have been, Mac... after 3 or 4 "1"s, I unplugged it <G>.
<G>
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At 01:46 AM 20/03/00 -0000, you wrote:
>List Member "Russell Hayward" <russ@softhome.net> wrote:
>Hi Tom,
>
>>  The following does NOT recognize less than whole numbers...
>WHY?????????????
>>
>>    FOR chaz% = 1 TO 10 /* number of runs
>>       chico% = 1 + (chaz% / 10) /* set amount to change by
>>       PRINT chico% /*************************************** ALWAYS 1 !
>WHY???
>>       ...
>>     NEXT chaz%
>
>Did you really get 1 for every cycle? That would be very strange, the 10th
>cycle should be 2, it is when I run it here.
>
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Ah !  Less calories then ?
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--- Russell Hayward <russ@softhome.net> wrote:
> Hi David,
> 
> > But how do you determine if the drive you are
> > looking at is:
> > 1) Mounted
> > 2) External (like a zipdrive)
> > 3) CD-ROM
> > 
> > or otherwise ?
> 
> I've attached a small example.
> 
> Russell Hayward

Ah !  Very nice, Russell !  Thanks !
But it's not detecting my Zipdrive very well..
Let me play with it a bit.
I kinna wanna have a big Z on a picture of the
drive for this.

Sincerely,
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Well, the reason I'm asking is I'm working on a
little GFABasic helper program that sits in the
background and assists you for debugging and
maintenance while you program.

In order for it to truly be effective tho, it needs
to be able to take over the keyboard and enter in
quite possibly several hundred keystrokes to simplify
things.

Sincerely,
David W.

Does KEYBD_EVENT allow you to force a key into the
keybuffer ?

--- Russell Hayward <russ@softhome.net> wrote:
> List Member "Russell Hayward" <russ@softhome.net>
> wrote:
> Hi David,
> 
> > This is good information, but even better would
> be,
> > how do you stuff keys into the keyboard buffer ?
> 
> You could use the 32-bit function keybd_event, but
> that would require
> thunking, and I know you dislike that. Someone else
> will probably be able to
> give you an INTR call to do it.
> 
> > Suppose someone were to write a program that
> > recognized
> > both shift keys tapped at the same time and at
> that
> > point, with your GFABasic program running in the
> > background without a window, it would stuff keys
> > directly into the keyboard buffer which would also
> > affect Notepad, GFAEditor, or any other program
> > that is waiting for normal keypresses !
> 
> I have a program like that, not written by me
> unfortunately. It's called
> Shortkeys, they used to have a free version but I
> don't know if they still
> do. It certainly is very useful.
> 
> Sincerey,
> Russell Hayward


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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hoosh !  What are the interrupts for ??
Your technique looks good and I can understand it,
until you do the interrupts !  :)

Sincerely,
David W.

--- Anthony Watson <awatson@pacifier.com> wrote:
> List Member Anthony Watson <awatson@pacifier.com>
> wrote:
> David,
> 
> > Hey Anthony ! That's a good technique !
> > But how do you determine if the drive you are
> looking at is:
> > 1) Mounted
> > 2) External (like a zipdrive)
> > 3) CD-ROM
> 
> Russell already supplied a good example of how to do
> this, but you
> can also try the following. I know it works under
> Win 3.1, Win95, and
> Win98, but it isn't exactly the best programming
> practice. Ha. Ha.
> 
> DEFINT "a-z"
> FOR a=2 TO 15
>   a$="Drive "+CHR$(a+65)+": "
>   b=GetDriveType(a)
>   IF b=DRIVE_FIXED
>     PRINT a$+" Fixed"
>   ELSE IF b=DRIVE_REMOVABLE
>     PRINT a$+" Removable"
>   ELSE IF b=DRIVE_REMOTE
>     cd_flag=0
>     ~INTR($2f,_BX=0,_AX=$1500,_ES=0,_DI=0)
>     IF _BX<>0
>       ~INTR($2F,_CX=a,_AX=$150B,_ES=0,_DI=0)
>       cd_flag=_AX
>     ENDIF
>     IF cd_flag=0
>       PRINT a$+" Network Drive"
>     ELSE
>       PRINT a$+" CD ROM"
>     ENDIF
>   ENDIF
> NEXT a
> KEYGET xxx      
> 
> Take care,
> 
> Anthony


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List Member Pat Bullman <pbullman@norex.com.au> wrote:
I hope this helps?

Windows does not use the same keyboard buffer approach like DOS.  Instead
keystrokes are just messages that can be dealt with by your application and
there are also several API's which help.

Everytime a key is pressed several meesages are sent to the application
that has the input focus.  While there are several different types of
messages, the most commonly used are WM_CHAR, WM_KEYDOWN and WM_KEYUP.
When your press the "A" key for example, a WM_KEYDOWN is sent and when you
release the key a WM_KEYUP is sent.  If the key pressed is a character key,
then a WM_CHAR is also sent.

These messages also have a lot of other information, like:
	- the number of times the character was repeated because the user held
down a key;
	- the keyboard scan code;
	- if the <Alt> key was down when the key was hit;
	- if the key was already down before the message was sent; 
	and other

There are several API's which can manipulate the keyboard (and Mouse).  The
most useful, in summary:

	EnableHardwareInput		Enable or disable the mouse & keyboard;
	GetAsyncKeyState		Find out if a key has been pressed;
	GetInputState			Determine if there are ky related messages in the message
queue;
	GetKeyboardStatus		Find out the status of all the keys;
	GetKeyboardType		Retrieve the type of keyboard;
	GetKeyNameText		Retrieve the name of the key;
	GetKeyState			Determine is a key is currently down, or toggle is active; and
	SetKeyboardState		Set the state for all 256 virtual keys in one funtion call.

OK, what this all means is that it should be fairly easy to "clear the
keyboard buffer" for ane application without effecting any other
application that also running.  For example, to clear the keyboard for your
application you might just (I haven't tested this but it should work):

PROCEDURE ClearKeyBuffer
  DO
    KeyFound| = FALSE
    PEEKEVENT
    SELECT _Mess
    CASE WM_CHAR
      KeyFound| = TRUE
    ENDSELECT
  LOOP WHILE KeyFound| = TRUE
RETURN

On the other hand, if you wanted to "stuff a Key" (like done in DOS apps)
into the buffer, that's very simple but you have to specify the running
application that will receive the "stuffed" keys.  All you do is use the
SendMessage() or PostMessage() API's to send the keystrokes to the
application.  Indeed, you could send key related messages to activate
menus, "type" in data, activate short-cut keys etc.

Lastly, I'd recommend you don't use GFA's INKEY$ and INPUT related commands
for any serious programming.  I believe these were provided by GFA to make
the language compatible with other BASIC languages (which were written for
DOS and similar systems).  Windows supports a different message based
approach which might take a bit to learn but I believe provides far more
flexability and power.  However, I still use these commands for simple non
important applications.

Pat



At 08:26 19/03/00 -0800, you wrote:
>List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
>This is good information, but even better would be,
>how do you stuff keys into the keyboard buffer ?
>
>Suppose someone were to write a program that
>recognized
>both shift keys tapped at the same time and at that
>point, with your GFABasic program running in the
>background without a window, it would stuff keys
>directly into the keyboard buffer which would also
>affect Notepad, GFAEditor, or any other program
>that is waiting for normal keypresses !
>
>This would be useful !  I know how to use OUT in
>QB4.5 to do it, but it's not 100% effective !
>
>Sincerely,
>David W.
>
>To clear a keybuffer, I'd use:
>WHILE INKEY$>""
>WEND
>
>Which may just be a bit too single minded and not
>taking advantage of GFA's more powerful commands.  :)
>
>
>
>--- John Kuehn <jkuehn@ex-pressnet.com> wrote:
>> List Member John Kuehn <jkuehn@ex-pressnet.com>
>> wrote:
>> What is it accepted method of clearing out the
>> keyboard input buffer,
>> prior to an INPUT instruction?
>> I want to eliminate keyboard characters already
>> processed during the
>> following delay timer wait loop
>> 
>> PROCEDURE wait(wait%)
>>   t% = TIMER
>>   WHILE TIMER < ADD(t%,wait%)    /* delay for wait%
>> milliseconds
>>     PEEKEVENT
>>     SELECT MENU(1)                          /* Is
>> there a pressed key or
>> selected menu item?
>>     CASE 1
>>       inkey = MENU(12)                         /*
>> get key value
>>       @EvalKey()                                   
>> /* process it
>> '                                                   
>>          /* I would
>> like to be able to kill the already processed input
>> key here
>>     CASE 20
>>       @EvalMenu()                                 
>> /* process selected
>> menu items
>>     ENDSELECT
>>   WEND
>> RETURN
>> 
>> The above snippet allows for the 'on the fly'
>> processing of menus and
>> single key functions, but, subsequent INPUT commands
>> always contain all
>> of the characters already processed.


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Hi David,

> Does KEYBD_EVENT allow you to force a key into the
> keybuffer ?

Yes, it does all the dirty work that Pat was talking about. When the
WM_KEYDOWN and WM_KEYUP messages are sent, there is an awful lot of
information packed into the lParam. You could probably set it all up
yourself, but it wouldn't be easy. keybd_event is just like pressing a key
on the keyboard, in fact it is the command the keyboard driver uses to tell
Windows about a key press.

The only drawback is that it will only work on 32-bit versions of Windows.

I've attached an example.

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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
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Code of the day GFA16
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On the other hand, if you wanted to "stuff a Key"
> (like done in DOS apps)
> into the buffer, that's very simple but you have to
> specify the running
> application that will receive the "stuffed" keys. 
> All you do is use the
> SendMessage() or PostMessage() API's to send the
> keystrokes to the
> application.  Indeed, you could send key related
> messages to activate
> menus, "type" in data, activate short-cut keys etc.

Well, this is all good and well but how do I
force keystrokes through the keyboard itself ?
That is, it somehow knows I'm in notepad or some
odd little spreadsheet program, and when I hit both
SHIFT keys, it taps out HELLO ?

Someone posted an example on this, which does work,
but it uses:

  adr = ^GetProcAddress32W(user32, "keybd_event")
  ~P:(call32) (L:VKCode, L:ScanCode, L:Flags,
L:ExtraInfo,L:adr, L:%0000, L:4)

Which is royally nasty I think in anyone's book..
Is there an easier way than this ?

Sincerely,
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ODDLONG.ZIP by David Wicker


' What does it do ??
' It allows you to select an Oddlong Region that is copied to
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Allows you to load your own bitmap.

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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:

Five year phase-in plan for "EuroEnglish"

The European Commission have just announced an agreement whereby
English will be the official language of the EU, rather than German, which
was the other possibility. As part of the negotiations, Her Majesty's
government conceded that English spelling had some room for improvement and
has accepted a five year phase in plan that would be known as "EuroEnglish".

In the first year, "s" will replace the soft "c". Sertainly, this will
make the sivil servants jump for joy. The hard "c" will be dropped in favour
of the "k". This should klear up konfusion and keyboards kan have 1 less
letter.
There will be growing publik enthusiasm in the sekond year, when the
troublesome "ph" will be replaced with the "f". This will make words like
"fotograf" 20% shorter.
In the third year, publik akseptanse of the new spelling kan be
expekted to reach the stage where more komplikated changes are possible.
Governments will enkorage the removal of double letters, which have always
ben a deterent to akurate speling. Also, al wil agre that the horible mes of
the silent "e"s in the language is disgraseful, and they should go away.
By the 4th year, peopl wil be reseptiv to steps such as replasing "th"
with "z" and "w" with "v".
During ze fifz year, ze unesesary "o" kan be dropd from vords
kontaining "ou" and similar changes vud of kors be aplid to ozer
kombinations of leters. After zis fifz year, ve vil hav a realy sensibl
riten styl. Zer vil be no mor trubls or difikultis and evrivun vil find it
ezi to understand each ozer
ZE DREAM VIL FINALI KUM TRU!

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--- Dale Bryant <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com>
> wrote:
> 
> Five year phase-in plan for "EuroEnglish"
> 
> The European Commission have just announced an
> agreement whereby
> English will be the official language of the EU,
> rather than German, which
> was the other possibility. As part of the
> negotiations, Her Majesty's
> government conceded that English spelling had some
> room for improvement and
> has accepted a five year phase in plan that would be
> known as "EuroEnglish".
> 
> In the first year, "s" will replace the soft "c".
> Sertainly, this will
> make the sivil servants jump for joy. The hard "c"
> will be dropped in favour
> of the "k". This should klear up konfusion and
> keyboards kan have 1 less
> letter.
> There will be growing publik enthusiasm in the
> sekond year, when the
> troublesome "ph" will be replaced with the "f". This
> will make words like
> "fotograf" 20% shorter.
> In the third year, publik akseptanse of the new
> spelling kan be
> expekted to reach the stage where more komplikated
> changes are possible.
> Governments will enkorage the removal of double
> letters, which have always
> ben a deterent to akurate speling. Also, al wil agre
> that the horible mes of
> the silent "e"s in the language is disgraseful, and
> they should go away.
> By the 4th year, peopl wil be reseptiv to steps such
> as replasing "th"
> with "z" and "w" with "v".
> During ze fifz year, ze unesesary "o" kan be dropd
> from vords
> kontaining "ou" and similar changes vud of kors be
> aplid to ozer
> kombinations of leters. After zis fifz year, ve vil
> hav a realy sensibl
> riten styl. Zer vil be no mor trubls or difikultis
> and evrivun vil find it
> ezi to understand each ozer
> ZE DREAM VIL FINALI KUM TRU!

Vel Dal, I zinserly hop zis iz yuzt unt jok
und not zruth !  Zruth kan be zdrangr zen fiksion !
(Und I hop zis iz yuzt fiksion !)  :)

Big Brozer Iz Vatchink yu !

Heil !

Zinserly,
David W.


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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Well, with one grand attempt to use Win98's own
Email handler and failed (and lost my nice long
message), I think I'll stick with YAHOO's ONLINE
mail server which works just fine.

Okay !  OddLong is complete !  I know some of you
were talking in here earlier about making a program
to select any sized region of any shape, as a
paintbrush, and allow it to paint, well, this
does just that !  Get your copy on Dale's Good GFA
Software list !

Tom, this could be your calling.  :)

What's coming up ??

LowBlur, Aura for Wind Chimes (Finally!),
Graphic Filebox, and ultimately Fruity Jam !

Yah and BUNDLE Russell !  I haven't forgotten !

Coming to a computer near you !  :)

I guess life has gone for the better now.
My results back from MRI show I've got physical
abnormalities in my brain from birth, enough so I
received an apology from the government work force,
was given $3000 in addition to free medical services,
free teaching services, free medication, and half off
any transportation I take, as well as $550 per month
paid by the government for the next 3 years for the
hardship I went through in filing for disability and
them throwing it back in my face.

In return, they'd like me to take some classes on
how to cope with my slingshot emotions, and how to
=BEHAVE= when I'm in a workplace (and not play with
all their paperclips and stuff !)

I guess they expect me to be a productive working
person in the future !  Yah we'll see !  :)

So it seems I'm not going anywhere anytime soon and
can probably finish Scenario if I put my heart and
soul into it !

Huum !  So I'll have more free time to doodle
in GFA (Yah David and watch more cartoons and
drool over scantily clad Hentai Anime girls !)  :)

Sincerely,
David W.


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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
To whomever interested:
David's oddlong.lst IS an irregular selection routine that, as is,
lifts a copy of what you outline with the left-down mouse & pastes
it into the same image where ever you wish to drop it.  It remains
only to be able to put it into another image.

Great going, David.
<G>
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:


--- Tom Record
<tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> To whomever interested:
> David's oddlong.lst IS an irregular selection
> routine that, as is,
> lifts a copy of what you outline with the left-down
> mouse & pastes
> it into the same image where ever you wish to drop
> it.  It remains
> only to be able to put it into another image.
> 
> Great going, David.
> <G>
> TomR.

Hey !  Glad you like it Tom, thanks for the praise !!
:)

Well, I was doing and some thinking yesterday
and the nite before that it would be neat if I could
write one that could also >Snap!< around an image,
that is, it can tell the boundaries by brightness
level shifts and intelligently form itself around
a shape, like I could pick up an anime image from
a muted background, convert it to .GIF, and put any
background in instead I like.  Just an idea..

I don't have the math worked out in my head yet.

I'm working on Wind Chimes Aura right now and gone to
see Dad today.

Oh !  I don't know if my message made it in here,
but I was also asking about a .RMX file !

In RealAudio Jukebox, I figured out a strange way
to save this =VERY= small file type.  There isn't
too much information on it on the net, and it's
a far deeper crunch than .RA, .WAV, or .MP3 !

It is =ONLY= available if I run RealAudio Jukebox
first from installation, after that, it won't save
in this format !  Any ideas people ??  It takes an
entire music CD and packs it down to 3megs !

It loses this "intelligent" scheme if I change
anything
in configuration or exit Jukebox for any reason to
bring it back in later.  It "remembers" it if I
use Win98 to completely REMOVE it, and then REINSTALL
it all over again.  I'm on my 9th reinstall with
7 CDs recorded in .RMX !

Here's a music track from the RPG I just finished
on the Playstation you can download to try on
your computer.

http://www.geocities.com/dw817/rmx/lunar1.zip

Sooo tiny a file !  You could use something this small
to spice up GFA programs.  :)

Someone please tell me what's going on and how I can
lock Jukebox for saving and remembering this .RMX
format !

Sincerely,
David W.


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List Member "Russell Hayward" <russ@softhome.net> wrote:

> Someone posted an example on this, which does work,
> but it uses:
> 
>   adr = ^GetProcAddress32W(user32, "keybd_event")
>   ~P:(call32) (L:VKCode, L:ScanCode, L:Flags,
> L:ExtraInfo,L:adr, L:%0000, L:4)
> 
> Which is royally nasty I think in anyone's book..
> Is there an easier way than this ?

You want the moon on a stick! :-)

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List Member "Ulrich Westphal" <mawest@sun2.ruf.uni-freiburg.de> wrote:

> -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: owner-gfabasic@gfa.net [mailto:owner-gfabasic@gfa.net]Im Auftrag
> von Dale Bryant
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 21. M=E4rz 2000 03:17
> An: GFA Mail List
> Betreff: [gfabasic] GET READY
>
>
> List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
>
> Five year phase-in plan for "EuroEnglish"
>
> The European Commission have just announced an agreement whereby
> English will be the official language of the EU, rather than German, wh=
ich
> was the other possibility. As part of the negotiations, Her Majesty's
> government conceded that English spelling had some room for
> improvement and
> has accepted a five year phase in plan that would be known as
> "EuroEnglish".
>
> In the first year, "s" will replace the soft "c". Sertainly, this will
> make the sivil servants jump for joy. The hard "c" will be
> dropped in favour
> of the "k". This should klear up konfusion and keyboards kan have 1 les=
s
> letter.
> There will be growing publik enthusiasm in the sekond year, when the
> troublesome "ph" will be replaced with the "f". This will make words li=
ke
> "fotograf" 20% shorter.
> In the third year, publik akseptanse of the new spelling kan be
> expekted to reach the stage where more komplikated changes are possible.
> Governments will enkorage the removal of double letters, which have alw=
ays
> ben a deterent to akurate speling. Also, al wil agre that the
> horible mes of
> the silent "e"s in the language is disgraseful, and they should go away.
> By the 4th year, peopl wil be reseptiv to steps such as replasing "th"
> with "z" and "w" with "v".
> During ze fifz year, ze unesesary "o" kan be dropd from vords
> kontaining "ou" and similar changes vud of kors be aplid to ozer
> kombinations of leters. After zis fifz year, ve vil hav a realy sensibl
> riten styl. Zer vil be no mor trubls or difikultis and evrivun vil find=
 it
> ezi to understand each ozer
> ZE DREAM VIL FINALI KUM TRU!
>

Reminds me on something I heard sometimes ago in austerlich

DI W=D6=DCT BRAUC,T UNIKOUT!

in zajdn wou sijm bit aszij di nom &is obwuj $u
saijt aana ewic,kait latin aans , zwa , drai , .....
unt big fajf , d$isi unt so wajda gejm dujt unt
as inglesi$e di ima me& zu& u&zic, wi&klic,n
w=F6=FCt$brouc, auf$taijgt waj de kfrijsa hajt zu
doug nu& me& i&gantsou aan hi&nfabra=FAndn
$aas in radio a=FAhe&n hom di amarikanejsa hi&z
unikout ejntwiklt - das ma fi& aan no&majn
dext hi&z zwa moj so f=FCy $bajc,abloz bra=FAc,t
unt ma esbaranti$ hi&z a mit aan dejkl a=FAf di
buc,$to=FAm $rajm ka=FA .

Owa fi& wos des ga=FAnze . Ejnsa $bro=FAc, is dajt$e
wi&t fo $taijag=F6=FCda iwafinanzi&de ge&manisdn
af a zijmli blejde o&da mit zijmli f=FC=FC a=FAfwa=FAnt
zijmli gu&t fahunzt , is esbarantdo fo Frajndes
Christ z&n hi&nlo=FAsn brodukt fo i&nara ble&raraj
unt a=FAf di jo&hundate ojde za=FAm$ajsara wos dokta
sa=FAmanhof al-i-as dokta met gwaxi inizji&t hot
wi&t dabaj k$isn .
Ajso=FA e&lic, xogt des is ec,t zn re&n .

ejnixdns $a=FAt di aszij grafick bejsa mit unikout a=FAs .

anke mi lasas saluti na xiuj samlingvanoj ,
brost !

(A. Hynckel)

(Aus "der grosse Diktator" Ch. Chaplin)
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Gunnar, Dick & David have provided 3 ways to get an irregular selection
working.

Before long, I think it's gonna be time for *somebody* to write another
book on GFA-W(16).  The past 6 months or so have seen a tremendous set
of routines written to do things that one could only dream about.  Any
such book is gonna take somebody of Dale's perseverance, & if he tries
to add all together, it's going to mean a whole new helpfile because
just the last few months' "production" will be nearly as large as his
original one.

Personally, I'm honored to have such marvelous minds available to me!
I wish I could reciprocate & give *them* such fine answers to problems.

I don't know who wrote the much-used "generic window" in Dale's helpfile,
but it really needs a revamping to clean out bugs & "don't-works".
<G>
TomR.

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:


--- Russell Hayward <russ@softhome.net> wrote:
> List Member "Russell Hayward" <russ@softhome.net>
> wrote:
> 
> > Someone posted an example on this, which does
> work,
> > but it uses:
> > 
> >   adr = ^GetProcAddress32W(user32, "keybd_event")
> >   ~P:(call32) (L:VKCode, L:ScanCode, L:Flags,
> > L:ExtraInfo,L:adr, L:%0000, L:4)
> > 
> > Which is royally nasty I think in anyone's book..
> > Is there an easier way than this ?
> 
> You want the moon on a stick! :-)
> 
> Russ

Yah you betcha Russell !  :)

Oh, got Wind Chimes all finished, Aura is very
pretty !  I didn't use Mr. Loock's idea tho,
his works but its a lot of stuff to do, I'm
just closing the midi stuff, opening it and
playing notes then it will close  again when I close
it
again to reopen it again after it has been closed
earlier when I opened it.

It works !  :)

I'll post it when I get home, at my Dad's right now
and doing all bizzy paper work !

Sincerely,
David W.


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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Ouch Ulrich !  I think you just lost a lot of
us English reading !  :)

Sincerely,
David W.

> Reminds me on something I heard sometimes ago in
> austerlich
>=20
> DI W=D6=DCT BRAUC,T UNIKOUT!
>=20
> in zajdn wou sijm bit aszij di nom &is obwuj $u
> saijt aana ewic,kait latin aans , zwa , drai , .....
> unt big fajf , d$isi unt so wajda gejm dujt unt
> as inglesi$e di ima me& zu& u&zic, wi&klic,n
> w=F6=FCt$brouc, auf$taijgt waj de kfrijsa hajt zu
> doug nu& me& i&gantsou aan hi&nfabra=FAndn
> $aas in radio a=FAhe&n hom di amarikanejsa hi&z
> unikout ejntwiklt - das ma fi& aan no&majn
> dext hi&z zwa moj so f=FCy $bajc,abloz bra=FAc,t
> unt ma esbaranti$ hi&z a mit aan dejkl a=FAf di
> buc,$to=FAm $rajm ka=FA .
>=20
> Owa fi& wos des ga=FAnze . Ejnsa $bro=FAc, is dajt$e
> wi&t fo $taijag=F6=FCda iwafinanzi&de ge&manisdn
> af a zijmli blejde o&da mit zijmli f=FC=FC a=FAfwa=FAnt
> zijmli gu&t fahunzt , is esbarantdo fo Frajndes
> Christ z&n hi&nlo=FAsn brodukt fo i&nara ble&raraj
> unt a=FAf di jo&hundate ojde za=FAm$ajsara wos dokta
> sa=FAmanhof al-i-as dokta met gwaxi inizji&t hot
> wi&t dabaj k$isn .
> Ajso=FA e&lic, xogt des is ec,t zn re&n .
>=20
> ejnixdns $a=FAt di aszij grafick bejsa mit unikout a=FAs
> .
>=20
> anke mi lasas saluti na xiuj samlingvanoj ,
> brost !
>=20
> (A. Hynckel)


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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:


--- Tom Record
<tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Gunnar, Dick & David have provided 3 ways to get an
> irregular selection
> working.
> 
> Before long, I think it's gonna be time for
> *somebody* to write another
> book on GFA-W(16).  The past 6 months or so have
> seen a tremendous set
> of routines written to do things that one could only
> dream about.  Any
> such book is gonna take somebody of Dale's
> perseverance, & if he tries
> to add all together, it's going to mean a whole new
> helpfile because
> just the last few months' "production" will be
> nearly as large as his
> original one.
> 
> Personally, I'm honored to have such marvelous minds
> available to me!
> I wish I could reciprocate & give *them* such fine
> answers to problems.
> 
> I don't know who wrote the much-used "generic
> window" in Dale's helpfile,
> but it really needs a revamping to clean out bugs &
> "don't-works".
> <G>
> TomR.

Well Tom, that's aright by me, but if my stuff's
gonna get published, I'm gonna want a bit o' credit,
or at least enough percentage of the profits to keep
me ankle deep in Playstation games and Anime movies.
:)

Oh ?  And some other people did write an odd-long
selector ?

I'd like to have a chance to see them !
Could someone please post the URL to them ?

Thanks !

Also, is there anyone else out there besides
Mountain Software that is commercially marketing
GFA software they have written, if so, I'd like to
have a chance to look at your homepage so I can see
what a good GFA homepage looks like !

Sincerely,
David W.

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Gunnar's is mine, but w/ some changes he made.
loader should be run AFTER the barlik file(s).
<G>
TomR.


At 04:36 PM 21/03/00 -0800, you wrote:
>List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>--- Tom Record
><tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> List Member Tom Record
>> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> Gunnar, Dick & David have provided 3 ways to get an
>> irregular selection
>> working.
>> 
>> Before long, I think it's gonna be time for
>> *somebody* to write another
>> book on GFA-W(16).  The past 6 months or so have
>> seen a tremendous set
>> of routines written to do things that one could only
>> dream about.  Any
>> such book is gonna take somebody of Dale's
>> perseverance, & if he tries
>> to add all together, it's going to mean a whole new
>> helpfile because
>> just the last few months' "production" will be
>> nearly as large as his
>> original one.
>> 
>> Personally, I'm honored to have such marvelous minds
>> available to me!
>> I wish I could reciprocate & give *them* such fine
>> answers to problems.
>> 
>> I don't know who wrote the much-used "generic
>> window" in Dale's helpfile,
>> but it really needs a revamping to clean out bugs &
>> "don't-works".
>> <G>
>> TomR.
>
>Well Tom, that's aright by me, but if my stuff's
>gonna get published, I'm gonna want a bit o' credit,
>or at least enough percentage of the profits to keep
>me ankle deep in Playstation games and Anime movies.
>:)
>
>Oh ?  And some other people did write an odd-long
>selector ?
>
>I'd like to have a chance to see them !
>Could someone please post the URL to them ?
>
>Thanks !
>
>Also, is there anyone else out there besides
>Mountain Software that is commercially marketing
>GFA software they have written, if so, I'd like to
>have a chance to look at your homepage so I can see
>what a good GFA homepage looks like !
>
>Sincerely,
>David W.
>
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GFA16
WINDCHIM.ZIP by David Wicker.  Twice as big and twice as nice!
LOGOS.ZIP by Tom Record - Display all those Windows logos. Fun, fun!

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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
UPDATE 16

ODDLONG.ZIP - by David Wicker
**************************************
The "*" is new stuff

 Use the mouse pointer to maneuver around the screen
 Hold down the left mouse button to select an Oddlong
Region
 it will show up as an animated dotted outline
* if you need to backtrack a little, hold down the
[BACKSPACE] for a bit
 Release the left mouse button to complete it
* Hold down the left mouse button again on it and you
=LIFT= it up
* plot a copy of it anywhere by hitting [SPACEBAR],
* To view it without the =MAGIC= animated lines, hold
the left button outside of it
 To leave a copy of it where it is and get ready to
select another region,
 hit the right mouse button
* if you've moved the region from its home place and
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 if your region is in the home position, you can hit
the [BACKSPACE] or [ESC]
 to erase the movable copy and select another region
* hit the [DEL] key once you have a selection to BLACK
it out underneath completely
 To load a different bitmap file, hit CTRL-L
 Hit [ESC] when you have no selection to exit


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David just keeps on improving it. Now a available for download.
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That animated cursor is something else!
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--- Tom Record
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> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> David, Dick
> 'zactly what we needed.  Thanks!
> That animated cursor is something else!
> <G>
> TomR.

Who is Dick thats not me !  And who is we ?
What you do with my program ?

Get me all nervous !  Not wanting to share source
again if you're selling it ??

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You know that Tom would not do that. He was just complimenting you on your
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> > TomR.
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--- Dale Bryant <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
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> Dale Bryant

* 'zactly what we needed.  Thanks!

These exact words were spoken from every software
company I've worked for (about 7 companies) just
before they ripped everything I had..

Each one promise to be different then last never
were..  After they got what they wants they say
just what we needed then they thank me for help,
discharge me cause it was a temporary job, and a
month later I see my stuff "writ" said its by someone
else!

Dale, I don't wanna go thru this hell again, I guess--
I guess I was hoping for something like hey this is
fun to play with david let me send you some cookies
or anime dolls to cut with it or
something like that..  "what we needed" means more
then 1 person and that this is being put in a project
somewheres..

I thought-- I thought that maybe I was over mine
paranoid about other programmers and maybe it is not
then..  Dale I've lost way too much code in the past,
ripped by every damn company I've been with, ripped
by friends, by colleagues at work even if its not
a computer job, it opened a very old sore wound in
me that will probably never get healed ever..

A lotof me not being keep a job now is cause I get
all scared when they want me write software..

I telling my last few jobs I AINT PROGRAM YOU NOTHING
I TYPE WORD PROCESSOR STUFF THATS IT, they say well
they were looking for a programmer I say not me..
They say they seen my stuff and want me write
software for them, two companies I worked for run
entire on stuff I wrote for them and I never got
paid for any that work..

I have had more than 2 dozen people talk to me when
I starting in computers say lets do company lets work
to gather , lets share ideas, lets be a =TEAM=
never work out they all ways took my stuff and I'm
really tired of it..  Its why I do freeware Dad
bitching at me to sell my software not give it away
I hate money anyways cause they way I grown up okay..

Yah I got it off my chest okay I TRY will write good
software but for PLAY enjoy stuff not just what we
needed- I am gone to pay for GFA compiler and start my
own stuff but I've been hurt too many times by people
say lets be a =TEAM= or just what we needed..

Now I take meds daily so I don't go kill myself
or bang my head gone see Neurologist this Tuesday
not by choice cause I don't want go back in an other
mental hospital again other wise..

Tom you sayed you might say stuff that really
offends me well you done it.  Okay !

Sincerely,
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>Tom you sayed you might say stuff that really
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>Sincerely,
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Ok, David.
If complimenting you is offensive, I'll keep my mouth shut!
I'll not ask anything else of you so I won't offend you by
complimenting the results.
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Awaken, Sir!

"We" are the members of the GFA-W(16) programmers' world!

_I_ couldn't sell software if I was the last author in the
world!  I even irritate others by *giving* it to them!

Dick is Barlick@aol.com, author of the original short-form
irregular selection routines.  *He* doesn't even have a copy
of "cookie" yet unless *YOU* sent it to him!

Can the paranoia... you did oddlong/cookie only because I
asked you to, so in the minimum, I see it as "our" routine.

Should I ever reach market w/ an image editor I've been
working on for 2 years, your name will come up as author
of the irregular selection routine *IF* yours is the one
I use.

You have already "published" oddlong to the community.

TomR.



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>List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>
>--- Tom Record
><tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> List Member Tom Record
>> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> David, Dick
>> 'zactly what we needed.  Thanks!
>> That animated cursor is something else!
>> <G>
>> TomR.
>
>Who is Dick thats not me !  And who is we ?
>What you do with my program ?
>
>Get me all nervous !  Not wanting to share source
>again if you're selling it ??
>
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>David W.
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David, & anybody else interested:

In 1994, I developed a method of shooting 35mm microfilm to the computer.
The available means at that time was a large instrument & cost $50,000!
I invested $1800.

I know theft first hand!  In 1996, making a move from Hawaii back to OK,
I enlisted my son.  In the move, the film carrier I built and several
ZIP100 disks full of film shots disappeared.

Br=F8derbund now being the outfit producing genealogy-related CDs is a
very long story.  I have personal experience with that situation from
the original starting point to it ending up being Br=F8derbund.

Suffice it to say that after providing *NEARLY* all equipment & technology
to do this job, it proved impossible for me to continue because I was going
to have to pay wages up front w/ money I didn't have - even to my offspring
& *their* offspring!  I put the census & ships' arrival film project on a
back burner.

1997, I was run over by a car, ending any possibility of my being able to
finance any project progress - all loose $$ going to uninsured medical=
 bills.

1998 Br=F8derbund announced availability of the microfilm images on CDs.

Need I go further?  My son & I haven't spoken since 1996.

My envolvement w/ GFA-W(16) arose from the need of my own *.jpg viewer
that could handle 1500x1800 pixel images, yet fit on a 1.4M floppy w/
4 images... actuall just 2 full pages from the U.S. Census books, which
have now been destroyed so only the National Archive microfilm is all
that remains of our census data from the begining to about 1978 or so.

My work w/ OCR didn't get away from me, so it was only in late 1999
that others managed to OCR handwritten data.  I _NEVER_ mentioned the
progress w/ OCR to *ANYBODY*.

In dealing w/ Br=F8derbund & it's predecessors, I _NEVER_ mentioned my
work, but on a call to Br=F8debund in 1996 to resolve a problem w/ their=20
software, I was informed that my work dovetailed cleanly with their
census index CDs & that we should both make a killing.

In building an appl, I join many routines from many people.  Until it
is finished, the bigger it gets, the more credits fall aside.  Upon it
being completed, tho - ALL contributions are acknowledged., usually in
a dialog that describes contributions, contributors, etc.  It's usually
called "About".  I wouldn't dream of not acknowledging help & contributions!

The only proof I can offer is a large demo I & several others put=20
together in an effort to show what LibertyBasic was capable of 3 years or
so ago.  _ALL_ who had a hand or routine in it are included & named in
the "About".  I no longer have it online, but can find a copy if anybody
is interested enough to want to devote 2M or so of HD space.

TomR.

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--- Tom Record
<tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> >
> >Tom you sayed you might say stuff that really
> >offends me well you done it.  Okay !
> >
> >Sincerely,
> >David W.
> >
> 
> Ok, David.
> If complimenting you is offensive, I'll keep my
> mouth shut!
> I'll not ask anything else of you so I won't offend
> you by
> complimenting the results.
> TomR.

(SIGH)  Tom I'm sorry..  It's just those words have
are very negative impact on me there is none way you
could known about it..  Okay..

Yah I'm really really REALLY paranoia most of time
specially when I know I'm not fit right in.

Words like thanks this was fun or neat or stuff like
that is sounds good and makes me feel really proud :)
but exactly what we needed that raises red flag in
me so very much !  I start working on computers when
I was 13 and sold 3 programs when I was 14 on Apple
][+, since then its neat stuff lots to thinking and
do Chris my friend and me worked on Vampire Hunter
years ago, that was neat and we watched anime and
stuff so it was good, every thing got really bad
when I write DragonHunt for Amiga, it was really
GOOD and lots of fun to play I am offered to work
for 3 different game companies maybe its me I don't
know business stuff it shows I guess it makes them
want to rip me off or something.  DragonHunt made it
to videogame shelves with a lots of bad feelings hurt
all around cause they pressure me to FINISH it and it
won't wasn't done same with Orbs of Ankhar, same with
Quest of Ao Tia, same with Dagorlad Defense, I write
the game but they own it too and source code legal
contract crap ??  I beat up on myself a lots cause
I hating way I feel and felt when I saw my stuff sold
but I got nothing back and my games were "finished"
by other programmers damn they wrecked it all..

Its like art Tom I got like 80+ pieces of music I
written on Amiga years ago good stuff like you hear
on Radio with lots bundles of many instruments at
once I play piano solo all professional like one time
and man offers me sell mine music I came in see him
and he playing other music I ask about it he says
they breach contract so music his now..

I guess--I guess I don't want any more legal stuff
I =LIVE= on praise daily and thats not very good I
guess..  I have to find reasons in me for wanting
to be here alive which is sick head I know which is
why I take meds yah I got my Mom's schizo genes.

Anything anyone ever praise me on I learnt really
fast and got really good at it- Dad wanted me learn
computers so here I am- he was proud when I type
so fast and correct- worked for him 5 years as
Office Manager did all paperwork billing phone stuff.

Worked for stockbroker I wrote stockmarket predict
software, wrote programming Star Telegram to keep
track of all customers, wrote stuff to compute all
churches in entire world and sort them by
state, province, denomination, majority, minority,
zipcode radius, state lines, advertising emphasis
different ways- I guess I like computers cause they
don't yell or scream at you when you not doing it
right..  everyone all yell and scream yah you got
reason to cause I got cross and not needing to be,
okay !

Well, if Cookie Cutter is all ways done then let's
upload it for Dale yah I been thinking doodle draw
stuff too like you said in GFA, man that photoshop
adobe was crap !  :)  I can do better I know cause
I am and not just writing it like biggo software
companies do I wanna =USE= it too cause its gonna
be really good !

I'm putting all together my new homepage and uses
Gredit graphic neat special fx stuff in page too !
When I found out bout every one and then every other
one making videogames in QBasic I was really happy
cause if someone writes games for others to play they
not usually thinking money but just =FUN!=  :)

I two days yesterday put away all my qbasic stuff it
was almost 200megs all videogames people and me
writing yah I live for videogames and cartoon stuff !

There's only one card game and the Tuzzle for as
games go GFA and that makes me all nervous too cause I
write stuff that not like any GFA stuff I ever seen
or downloaded and cause this I can't feel fitting in
or something with others here cause every one all
doctors and really important people (just see Dale's
profiles and stuff most all rocket scientists) :)

If everyone was writing games I'd feel better, but
not much more of any being out there for GFA and--
well I trying to fit in.

Okay !

Sincerely,
David W.


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Oh..  Hello Dick.  Do you have a homepage I can see
your other stuff and cookie cutter ?

Our Routine ?  Humm...  Maybe a little, wished I got
credit for just ideas only man I'd be have enjoying
Haribo Gummy Bears right now.  :)

I wrote oddlong cause I live for praise yah you know
that, and you two really going at it back and forth
when I came back reading 22 Email from 2 days gone I'm
fixing up computer !

Cookie Cutter not really and useful but SnapShot will
be I'll go write that soon too got too many lots of
things in my head want Tika's Card Game too but thats
gone be lot of work !

I guess I haven't writ like a game every program I
write cause there's not really any more for GFA I've
been seeing.  Other QBasic programmers man that's all
they writing so I wrote game and game after games and
then another game, was neat to play games every one
else writes and they write me Email cause to playing
my games they say they like it and neat stuff.
GFA most stuff is C++ no games at all and I'm not
to learning much looking at others code unlike it
were in QBasic !

Even Screen Teaser stuff maybe magnifier thats it for
what others writing.  I stick out like one biggo
sore thumb I know.  :)

Sincerely,
David W.

--- Tom Record
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> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Awaken, Sir!
> 
> "We" are the members of the GFA-W(16) programmers'
> world!
> 
> _I_ couldn't sell software if I was the last author
> in the
> world!  I even irritate others by *giving* it to
> them!
> 
> Dick is Barlick@aol.com, author of the original
> short-form
> irregular selection routines.  *He* doesn't even
> have a copy
> of "cookie" yet unless *YOU* sent it to him!
> 
> Can the paranoia... you did oddlong/cookie only
> because I
> asked you to, so in the minimum, I see it as "our"
> routine.
> 
> Should I ever reach market w/ an image editor I've
> been
> working on for 2 years, your name will come up as
> author
> of the irregular selection routine *IF* yours is the
> one
> I use.
> 
> You have already "published" oddlong to the
> community.
> 
> TomR.


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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Greets Tom:

Br=F8derbund humm ??  Yah they ripped off a lot good
Japanese gamewriters they are the "authors" of
original Galaxia shooter.

As for .JPGs files think I'm pretty good now doing
compress for them, been busy many years learn crunch
stuff for .JPGs, now got GFA and writing really good
.GIF cruncher cause they like a skinny .BMP and now
well a smaller .GIF is also then a smaller .BMP.

Making really neat logo screen for my homepage using
Gredit to color crunch works great =3DVERY=3D surprised
I'm that no-one else crunches colors they way I do ??
Gone make menu driving color crunch for bitmaps put
out source code that cause I know that really be
useful to lots of people, okay !

I got 40megs HD space on drive C: so no room for
program whats it do can crunch pictures .JPGs ?

Sincerely,
David W.

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> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> David, & anybody else interested:
>=20
> In 1994, I developed a method of shooting 35mm
> microfilm to the computer.
> The available means at that time was a large
> instrument & cost $50,000!
> I invested $1800.
>=20
> I know theft first hand!  In 1996, making a move
> from Hawaii back to OK,
> I enlisted my son.  In the move, the film carrier I
> built and several
> ZIP100 disks full of film shots disappeared.
>=20
> Br=F8derbund now being the outfit producing
> genealogy-related CDs is a
> very long story.  I have personal experience with
> that situation from
> the original starting point to it ending up being
> Br=F8derbund.
>=20
> Suffice it to say that after providing *NEARLY* all
> equipment & technology
> to do this job, it proved impossible for me to
> continue because I was going
> to have to pay wages up front w/ money I didn't have
> - even to my offspring
> & *their* offspring!  I put the census & ships'
> arrival film project on a
> back burner.
>=20
> 1997, I was run over by a car, ending any
> possibility of my being able to
> finance any project progress - all loose $$ going to
> uninsured medical bills.
>=20
> 1998 Br=F8derbund announced availability of the
> microfilm images on CDs.
>=20
> Need I go further?  My son & I haven't spoken since
> 1996.
>=20
> My envolvement w/ GFA-W(16) arose from the need of
> my own *.jpg viewer
> that could handle 1500x1800 pixel images, yet fit on
> a 1.4M floppy w/
> 4 images... actuall just 2 full pages from the U.S.
> Census books, which
> have now been destroyed so only the National Archive
> microfilm is all
> that remains of our census data from the begining to
> about 1978 or so.
>=20
> My work w/ OCR didn't get away from me, so it was
> only in late 1999
> that others managed to OCR handwritten data.  I
> _NEVER_ mentioned the
> progress w/ OCR to *ANYBODY*.
>=20
> In dealing w/ Br=F8derbund & it's predecessors, I
> _NEVER_ mentioned my
> work, but on a call to Br=F8debund in 1996 to resolve
> a problem w/ their=20
> software, I was informed that my work dovetailed
> cleanly with their
> census index CDs & that we should both make a
> killing.
>=20
> In building an appl, I join many routines from many
> people.  Until it
> is finished, the bigger it gets, the more credits
> fall aside.  Upon it
> being completed, tho - ALL contributions are
> acknowledged., usually in
> a dialog that describes contributions, contributors,
> etc.  It's usually
> called "About".  I wouldn't dream of not
> acknowledging help & contributions!
>=20
> The only proof I can offer is a large demo I &
> several others put=20
> together in an effort to show what LibertyBasic was
> capable of 3 years or
> so ago.  _ALL_ who had a hand or routine in it are
> included & named in
> the "About".  I no longer have it online, but can
> find a copy if anybody
> is interested enough to want to devote 2M or so of
> HD space.
>=20
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David
Windows is not really kind to games, particularly fast action, low
resolution graphics games.  Overhead is tremendously high in Windows!

You don't feel you fit in?  What the hell makes you think that?  You
fill a corner that it seems nobody else seems to want to get into!
Much, much more can be done now because you introduced gaming methods
& it gives everybody who sees your output new ways to do old tricks.

You are right... there was no way I would have forseen you getting
ticked by what transpired.  I was referring to something else
entirely different, that some crack by me might be taken wrong
& perhaps justifiably misinterpreted.

We ALL like to be "stroked" now & then.  I'm NOT stroking you when
I praise your work - hell, you're damned good in an area I'm lousy
as all hell in.  I envy your capability.

TomR.

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List Member "John Findlay" <John.Findlay@Byte-it.net> wrote:
Tom, and anyone else

> Should I ever reach market w/ an image editor I've been
> working on for 2 years, your name will come up as author
> of the irregular selection routine *IF* yours is the one
> I use.

If you are using any code that I have released you are free to use it
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List Member "Bev Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
All:

I f you want my code is also availablel I've been working on a bitmap-icon
put editor (BIPEd) for many years --  uhhh, PUT (save data as RAW) is an old
Atari term & I haven't worked on the Atari since '92.     <g>

                             -->Bev<--

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> List Member "John Findlay" <John.Findlay@Byte-it.net> wrote:
> Tom, and anyone else
>
> > Should I ever reach market w/ an image editor I've been
> > working on for 2 years, your name will come up as author
> > of the irregular selection routine *IF* yours is the one
> > I use.
>
> If you are using any code that I have released you are free to use it
> without giving me credit! OK.
>
> John
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Thanks, John.
Yep, I use a lot of things you showed me & the Abouts mention this.
Just policy.
<G>
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>List Member "John Findlay" <John.Findlay@Byte-it.net> wrote:
>Tom, and anyone else
>
>> Should I ever reach market w/ an image editor I've been
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>> of the irregular selection routine *IF* yours is the one
>> I use.
>
>If you are using any code that I have released you are free to use it
>without giving me credit! OK.
>
>John
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> If you are using any code that I have released you
> are free to use it
> without giving me credit! OK.
> 
> John

John ?  You must have some real jim doozy software
you're holding on to.  You probably not worried
cause I seen your stuff and I can't figure it out
so no worries right ??  :)

I guess I've had stuff ripped from me in the past
and my old paranoia switch done kicked in high
gears.  Okay.

Sincerely,
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Greets Bev:

Yaas Tom sent me a copy to look at really very
complex !  You are using a gazillion .DLLs I asked
Tom send me two I don't have.  I'm not good at
.DLLs yet maybe later.  I kinna want to make my own
Icon Editor showing Gredit technico and ease of
use, not knowing enough just yet.  :)

Sincerely,
David W.

> All:
> 
> I f you want my code is also availablel I've been
> working on a bitmap-icon
> put editor (BIPEd) for many years --  uhhh, PUT
> (save data as RAW) is an old
> Atari term & I haven't worked on the Atari since
> '92.     <g>
> 
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
David
Get John's *.gif routine from Dale's collection.
John is one of the better GURUs.
<G>
TomR.

At 05:34 AM 25/03/00 -0800, you wrote:
>List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>> are free to use it
>> without giving me credit! OK.
>> 
>> John
>
>John ?  You must have some real jim doozy software
>you're holding on to.  You probably not worried
>cause I seen your stuff and I can't figure it out
>so no worries right ??  :)
>
>I guess I've had stuff ripped from me in the past
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>gears.  Okay.
>
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>David W.
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Hi David,
I guess it is true that you write different stuff than most of us.  Please
don't let that discourage you. We all drive different cars but we get there
anyway.  I think others can learn so very  much from your code. I just want
to thank you for sharing it.
Dale

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> List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> --- Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> > List Member Tom Record
> > <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> > >
> > >Tom you sayed you might say stuff that really
> > >offends me well you done it.  Okay !
> > >
> > >Sincerely,
> > >David W.
> > >
> >
> > Ok, David.
> > If complimenting you is offensive, I'll keep my
> > mouth shut!
> > I'll not ask anything else of you so I won't offend
> > you by
> > complimenting the results.
> > TomR.
>
> (SIGH)  Tom I'm sorry..  It's just those words have
> are very negative impact on me there is none way you
> could known about it..  Okay..
>
> Yah I'm really really REALLY paranoia most of time
> specially when I know I'm not fit right in.
>
> Words like thanks this was fun or neat or stuff like
> that is sounds good and makes me feel really proud :)
> but exactly what we needed that raises red flag in
> me so very much !  I start working on computers when
> I was 13 and sold 3 programs when I was 14 on Apple
> ][+, since then its neat stuff lots to thinking and
> do Chris my friend and me worked on Vampire Hunter
> years ago, that was neat and we watched anime and
> stuff so it was good, every thing got really bad
> when I write DragonHunt for Amiga, it was really
> GOOD and lots of fun to play I am offered to work
> for 3 different game companies maybe its me I don't
> know business stuff it shows I guess it makes them
> want to rip me off or something.  DragonHunt made it
> to videogame shelves with a lots of bad feelings hurt
> all around cause they pressure me to FINISH it and it
> won't wasn't done same with Orbs of Ankhar, same with
> Quest of Ao Tia, same with Dagorlad Defense, I write
> the game but they own it too and source code legal
> contract crap ??  I beat up on myself a lots cause
> I hating way I feel and felt when I saw my stuff sold
> but I got nothing back and my games were "finished"
> by other programmers damn they wrecked it all..
>
> Its like art Tom I got like 80+ pieces of music I
> written on Amiga years ago good stuff like you hear
> on Radio with lots bundles of many instruments at
> once I play piano solo all professional like one time
> and man offers me sell mine music I came in see him
> and he playing other music I ask about it he says
> they breach contract so music his now..
>
> I guess--I guess I don't want any more legal stuff
> I =LIVE= on praise daily and thats not very good I
> guess..  I have to find reasons in me for wanting
> to be here alive which is sick head I know which is
> why I take meds yah I got my Mom's schizo genes.
>
> Anything anyone ever praise me on I learnt really
> fast and got really good at it- Dad wanted me learn
> computers so here I am- he was proud when I type
> so fast and correct- worked for him 5 years as
> Office Manager did all paperwork billing phone stuff.
>
> Worked for stockbroker I wrote stockmarket predict
> software, wrote programming Star Telegram to keep
> track of all customers, wrote stuff to compute all
> churches in entire world and sort them by
> state, province, denomination, majority, minority,
> zipcode radius, state lines, advertising emphasis
> different ways- I guess I like computers cause they
> don't yell or scream at you when you not doing it
> right..  everyone all yell and scream yah you got
> reason to cause I got cross and not needing to be,
> okay !
>
> Well, if Cookie Cutter is all ways done then let's
> upload it for Dale yah I been thinking doodle draw
> stuff too like you said in GFA, man that photoshop
> adobe was crap !  :)  I can do better I know cause
> I am and not just writing it like biggo software
> companies do I wanna =USE= it too cause its gonna
> be really good !
>
> I'm putting all together my new homepage and uses
> Gredit graphic neat special fx stuff in page too !
> When I found out bout every one and then every other
> one making videogames in QBasic I was really happy
> cause if someone writes games for others to play they
> not usually thinking money but just =FUN!=  :)
>
> I two days yesterday put away all my qbasic stuff it
> was almost 200megs all videogames people and me
> writing yah I live for videogames and cartoon stuff !
>
> There's only one card game and the Tuzzle for as
> games go GFA and that makes me all nervous too cause I
> write stuff that not like any GFA stuff I ever seen
> or downloaded and cause this I can't feel fitting in
> or something with others here cause every one all
> doctors and really important people (just see Dale's
> profiles and stuff most all rocket scientists) :)
>
> If everyone was writing games I'd feel better, but
> not much more of any being out there for GFA and--
> well I trying to fit in.
>
> Okay !
>
> Sincerely,
> David W.
>
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--- Tom Record
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> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> David
> Get John's *.gif routine from Dale's collection.
> John is one of the better GURUs.
> <G>
> TomR.

Hi Tom !  :)

Back from Dad's more paperwork tomorrow,
okay, I REMed out two lines in there and it ran
sorta, the file,
$LNK RES f:\Biped\Biped.res

is not there and I changed to here still not there,
boxes with no pictures Icon editor sorta really
DARK first 8 colors yah just me, :)  exited out
crashed
BASIC
This program has performed an illegal operation
and will be shut down (Close)

This is why I don't like using all kinds of tricky
machine-language stuff, it looked neato tho !

You gonna flip when I put out LowBlur man the
math is driving me nutzy but the results
are really pretty !

Sincerely,
David W.

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--- Tom Record
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> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> David
> Get John's *.gif routine from Dale's collection.
> John is one of the better GURUs.
> <G>
> TomR.

Okay well it works which is neat !  :)
But not always and it doesn't recognize most of
my Anime .GIFs.

And its slow took 10 seconds for a new Sailor Moon
GIF I have

I found a weird bug thing in my Bitmap saver !
When you save it, it's 1 brite shade lighter then
the load, save enough times you get red gun maxed
not good.  Subtract 4 in save and it fixes mine.

It only does it for colors that are there too !
Black is unchanged my Cherry Mia's hair get so red
I thought she colored it herself and loaded my
master pix in and saw that my Save Bitmap was
making her hair more and more red !  :/

I don't know what does this

Dale lemme know if you need the update !
I don't know why it does this I'm reading in color
out saving color, but -4 fixes it here anyways..

Sincerely,
David W.

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--- Dale Bryant <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
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> Hi David,
> I guess it is true that you write different stuff
> than most of us.  Please
> don't let that discourage you. We all drive
> different cars but we get there
> anyway.  I think others can learn so very  much from
> your code. I just want
> to thank you for sharing it.
> Dale

Thanks Dale !  (Big Smile!)
I feel a lot better when you said that.  :)

Sincerely,
David W. aka Kaleidoscope Kid

Oh and its nice you run Wind Chimes in Aura and
Kaleidoscope together

I've got a raw jukebox that keeps track of up to
hard-drive # of bitmaps/midis, play, sort, rename,
organize, duplicate, delete I written, but it needs
LowBlur to look really snazzy which is why I'm
fighting LowBlur.

I get that I'll put out this midi/bmp manager.

Thanks again Dale !
Sometimes you can stroke a cat the wrong way
and I guess thats how I felt for a moment.  :)

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
John's *.gif is the _FIRST_ of it's kind in GFA-W(16) source.
Was designed to work, not for speed.  I've never seen a *.gif
loader that was instantanious that actually worked.

It doesn't really like interlaced *.gif or animations.
TomR.


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>List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>--- Tom Record
><tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> List Member Tom Record
>> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> David
>> Get John's *.gif routine from Dale's collection.
>> John is one of the better GURUs.
>> <G>
>> TomR.
>
>Okay well it works which is neat !  :)
>But not always and it doesn't recognize most of
>my Anime .GIFs.
>
>And its slow took 10 seconds for a new Sailor Moon
>GIF I have
>
>I found a weird bug thing in my Bitmap saver !
>When you save it, it's 1 brite shade lighter then
>the load, save enough times you get red gun maxed
>not good.  Subtract 4 in save and it fixes mine.
>
>It only does it for colors that are there too !
>Black is unchanged my Cherry Mia's hair get so red
>I thought she colored it herself and loaded my
>master pix in and saw that my Save Bitmap was
>making her hair more and more red !  :/
>
>I don't know what does this
>
>Dale lemme know if you need the update !
>I don't know why it does this I'm reading in color
>out saving color, but -4 fixes it here anyways..
>
>Sincerely,
>David W.
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
David
the $LNK lines come into play ONLY when you compile w/ the compiler.
I donno if you can use'em w/ "make exe".  The interpretor ignores
all such lines.

That pkg contained everything in two fashions... *.dlls for the interpretor,
& $LNKable files for the compiler.  I have no idea why it won't run on your
computer... if those two *.dlls you want are NOT in the windows\system dir,
tell me the names & I'll send but I don't understand you being able to run 
*ANYTHING* at all without'em - they're system *.dlls.

TomR.


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>> Get John's *.gif routine from Dale's collection.
>> John is one of the better GURUs.
>> <G>
>> TomR.
>
>Hi Tom !  :)
>
>Back from Dad's more paperwork tomorrow,
>okay, I REMed out two lines in there and it ran
>sorta, the file,
>$LNK RES f:\Biped\Biped.res
>
>is not there and I changed to here still not there,
>boxes with no pictures Icon editor sorta really
>DARK first 8 colors yah just me, :)  exited out
>crashed
>BASIC
>This program has performed an illegal operation
>and will be shut down (Close)
>
>This is why I don't like using all kinds of tricky
>machine-language stuff, it looked neato tho !
>
>You gonna flip when I put out LowBlur man the
>math is driving me nutzy but the results
>are really pretty !
>
>Sincerely,
>David W.
>
>Maybe my GFABasic doesn't like DLLs ?
>
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--- Tom Record
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> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> John's *.gif is the _FIRST_ of it's kind in
> GFA-W(16) source.
> Was designed to work, not for speed.  I've never
> seen a *.gif
> loader that was instantanious that actually worked.
> 
> It doesn't really like interlaced *.gif or
> animations.
> TomR.
> 
> 
> At 03:56 PM 25/03/00 -0800, you wrote:
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> >
> >
> >--- Tom Record
> ><tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
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> >> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net>
> wrote:
> >> David
> >> Get John's *.gif routine from Dale's collection.
> >> John is one of the better GURUs.
> >> <G>
> >> TomR.

I should send my ace in the hole, got nice .EXE DOS
I use manage my gazillion pictures called Display,
hack written by Japan kid, it reads a .gif any size
in about 1/10th a second, .JPG in 1/2 a second,
he's GOOD !  I don't use anything else cause its
so fast and good.  Uses every key on the keyboard to
manage pictures had it for years.  I preview .JPGs
B&W 1/4 screen 1 a second takes 2 minutes to scan
120 pix & see if I keep em or zap em.  It's the mother
lode of image managers.  :)

I need to get on the net and hunt down this kid cause
he's prolly got something better now.

I use Paintshop Pro for plasma light effects but
it saves too big, Display save any darn way you want
even crunch .GIFs with his technique (which is
original to say the least).  Use Image Alchemy DOS for
remove dither quantization accuracy and color,
multi-image palette gamma correct, interchange
color cubes and uniform color correction.

Yah I like the best toys.  :)

Gredit can do most of Paintshop Pro now except
save/load only bitmap, and cause its mine its keyboard
only no mouse very nice !

That magic wand stuff eludes me for PSP but its only
useful in certain areas so I'm not sweating try in
writing it.

If I can figure out icons I'll post a maker that uses
bits of the good stuff in Gredit.

Sincerely,
David W.


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Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 20:17:46 -0800 (PST)
From: David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com>
Subject: [gfabasic] Color Comparison
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
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This is not a very exciting program but it
does show difference in screens that use 16/24/32
bit to show color.

It does not check 8 bit color sorry you gotta
old computer I can't help ya.  :)

Mine is shown Bit16 at 32 different shades
Why my colors all messing up all the time ??
Now I know !

If you are wanting to be compatible in all
resolutions, you need to check out this
program and make a look-up table for
matching brightness levels !

=THIS= is why my save bitmap got lighter each time !

Compare my table with yours that is made when
you run it !

COLRCHEK [enclosed]

Sincerely,
David W.


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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
I'm trying to correct for where the mouse is first clicked.
3 lines in the procedure end w/  '*****************
These are wrapped for Eudora & must be unwrapped
------------------ cut here --------------------
/* Original RUBBERBOX routine by Ron Parker
/* mods by TomR.
/* reads out in caption bar, but 65535 is giving me hell!

CURDRV = _DRIVE
CURPATH$ = DIR$(0)
PATH$ = CHR$(CURDRV) + ":" + CURPATH$

FULLW #10
CLS 7
WINDGET 6,w2&
WINDGET 7,h2&
DO
  getCutRectangle
LOOP UNTIL MOUSEK = 2
CLOSEW #10
END



PROCEDURE getCutRectangle()
  DEFMOUSE 0
  LOCAL  xpos%,ypos%,xpos2%,ypos2%
  KILLEVENT
  WINDGET 4,xi%,yi%,wi%,hi%              /* Get interior window 
coordiantes '*****************
  state! = TRUE                          /* Toggle
  x% = wi% / 2                           /* Center of plot window
  y% = hi% / 2
  SETMOUSE x% / 2,y% / 2
  DO
    MOUSE x%,y%,k%
    SWITCH MOUSEK                        /* if mousekey pressed
    CASE 1                               /* Left key pressed
      RUBBERBOX x%,y%,-1000,-1000,a%,b%
      COLOR 13,14
      BOX x%,y%,x% + a%,y% + b%
      xpos0% = x%                   /* coordinate of cut rectangle
      ypos0% = y%
      /* THIS section is eating my lunch!
      IF xpos0% > xpos1%
        xpos1% = 65535 + (x% - a%)
      ELSE
        xpos1% = x% + a%
      ENDIF
      IF ypos0% > ypos1%
        ypos1% = 65535 + (y% -   b%)
      ELSE
        ypos1% = y% + b%
      ENDIF
      co$ = STR$(xpos0%) + "," + STR$(ypos0%) + ","
      co$ = co$ + STR$(xpos1%) + "," + STR$(ypos1%) + "   "
      co$ = co$ + STR$(a%) + " x " + STR$(b%)
      TITLEW #10,co$
    CASE 2
      CLEAR
      END
    ENDSWITCH
    ax% = mx%,ay% = my%,ak% = mk%
    MOUSE mx%,my%,mk%
    IF (ax% <> mx%) || (ay% <> my%) || (ak% <> mk%)
      IF mx% => 0 && mx% <= w2& && my% => 0 && my% <= h2& THEN m1x% = 
mx% '*****************
      IF mx% < 0 THEN m1x% = 0
      IF mx% > w2& THEN m1x% = w2&
      IF my% => 0 && my% <= h2& && mx% => 0 && mx% <= w2& THEN m1y% = 
my% '*****************
      IF my% < 0 THEN m1y% = 0
      IF my% > h2& THEN m1y% = h2&
    ENDIF
  LOOP UNTIL MOUSEK = 2
RETURN

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Greets Tom:

Ran it, okay makes boxes and stuff..

What is it supposed to do ?  Let me knowing that
and I should be able to help.

And another question on the board:

I'm looking at KanFont its a big program,
what I want to do is get just now the name
of the font from the filename:

OPENW #1,_X\2-200,_Y\2-150,0,0
SetFont "aarco_" ' <- actual filename "aarco_.ttf"
PRINT "Hello !"
KEYGET Z
CLOSEW1

PROCEDURE SetFont(A$,H)
  FONT A$,HEIGHT H,WEIGHT FW_NORMAL,UNDERLINE 0,ITALIC
0 TO Fnt
  SETFONT Fnt
RETURN

This won't work, but if I change "aarco_" to
"aarco-" (note minus (-) instead of underline (_) )
it works cause this is the descript name of it.

Another example,
"comic.ttf" is filename
"Comic Sans MS" is descript name

As long as I have descript name I can bring up any
font this ways but how do you find the font name
for each font when you got filename only ?

I'd like to do this so I have a reason to deinstall
Paintshop Pro and just use Gredit for everything.  :)

I could also hook this in my Midi/Wav/BMP manager so
you got .TTFs to quick scan to and manage.

I'll release the source to that one cause its too
useful to not share but I wanna put .TTFs in there
too so I can manage the hundreds I've got too !  :)

Sincerely,
David W.

--- Tom Record
<tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> I'm trying to correct for where the mouse is first
> clicked.
> 3 lines in the procedure end w/  '*****************
> These are wrapped for Eudora & must be unwrapped
> ------------------ cut here --------------------
> /* Original RUBBERBOX routine by Ron Parker
> /* mods by TomR.
> /* reads out in caption bar, but 65535 is giving me
> hell!


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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
At 11:42 PM 25/03/00 -0800, you wrote:
>List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Greets Tom:
>
>Ran it, okay makes boxes and stuff..
>
>What is it supposed to do ?  Let me knowing that
>and I should be able to help.
>

David
Read the numbers it puts in the caption bar... I can't seem to get away
from 65xxx showing up there & I want JUST the actual co-ordinates.  When
it's used as a rectangular selection, it MUST have just the actual co-ords.

>
>And another question on the board:
>

I've seen *something* on this, but will have to hunt to see if I still
have it.

>
>I'm looking at KanFont its a big program,
>what I want to do is get just now the name
>of the font from the filename:
>
>OPENW #1,_X\2-200,_Y\2-150,0,0
>SetFont "aarco_" ' <- actual filename "aarco_.ttf"
>PRINT "Hello !"
>KEYGET Z
>CLOSEW1
>
>PROCEDURE SetFont(A$,H)
>  FONT A$,HEIGHT H,WEIGHT FW_NORMAL,UNDERLINE 0,ITALIC
>0 TO Fnt
>  SETFONT Fnt
>RETURN
>
>This won't work, but if I change "aarco_" to
>"aarco-" (note minus (-) instead of underline (_) )
>it works cause this is the descript name of it.
>
>Another example,
>"comic.ttf" is filename
>"Comic Sans MS" is descript name
>
>As long as I have descript name I can bring up any
>font this ways but how do you find the font name
>for each font when you got filename only ?
>
>I'd like to do this so I have a reason to deinstall
>Paintshop Pro and just use Gredit for everything.  :)
>
>I could also hook this in my Midi/Wav/BMP manager so
>you got .TTFs to quick scan to and manage.
>
>I'll release the source to that one cause its too
>useful to not share but I wanna put .TTFs in there
>too so I can manage the hundreds I've got too !  :)
>
>Sincerely,
>David W.
>


TomR.

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
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Hi Tom:

Got your Rubber Room all waiting for you !  :)

Doodles a box any which way no matter how you face
it and gives correct coordinates every time !

See the 65536 thingie to know how it's done !

Hope This Helps !

Any ideas on the font thingie ?  See we can all
help each other.  :)

Sincerely,
David W.


--- Tom Record
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> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> At 11:42 PM 25/03/00 -0800, you wrote:
> >List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >Greets Tom:
> >
> >Ran it, okay makes boxes and stuff..
> >
> >What is it supposed to do ?  Let me knowing that
> >and I should be able to help.
> >
> 
> David
> Read the numbers it puts in the caption bar... I
> can't seem to get away
> from 65xxx showing up there & I want JUST the actual
> co-ordinates.  When
> it's used as a rectangular selection, it MUST have
> just the actual co-ords.


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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
26/03/2000 07:17:14 PM   3-scrolls   2603zz1-

Early into playing w/ GFA-W(16), I ran into a need for 3 scrolls
to function properly in the same dialog.  It took me a long time
to learn how it should be done.  These are in a window, but the
whole procedure is much the same except for DLGITEM, etc.

Use <Alt>+<F4> or Win95's closebox to exit.

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/* 3scrol01.lst  By TomR.  Based on work by:
/* SCROLL2 (C) Copyright 1994 Dennis Osrow  All Rights Reserved
/* demonstrates the creation and use of 3 horz scrollbars
/* demonstrates repetitive scrolling
/* Use freely
/**********************************************
TITLEW #1,"3-scrollbars in a window demo, such as for Gamma, Hue, etc."
OPENW #1,0,0,500,400,48
/* horizontal scroll bar style
styleH% = WS_VISIBLE | WS_CHILD | SBS_HORZ
/* create scroll bars
SCROLLBAR_HANDLE1& = 
CreateWindow("SCROLLBAR","",styleH%,150,40,200,15,WIN(1),102,_INSTANCE,
0) 'wrapped ***********
SCROLLBAR_HANDLE2& = 
CreateWindow("SCROLLBAR","",styleH%,150,70,200,15,WIN(1),102,_INSTANCE,
0) 'wrapped ***********
SCROLLBAR_HANDLE3& = 
CreateWindow("SCROLLBAR","",styleH%,150,100,200,15,WIN(1),102,_INSTANCE
,0) 'wrapped ***********
/* set up callback procedure
CB WIN(1),0 TO -1,CCB
/* set up 24 divisions on all 3 scroll bars
~SetScrollRange(SCROLLBAR_HANDLE1&,SB_CTL,1,24,-1)
~SetScrollRange(SCROLLBAR_HANDLE2&,SB_CTL,1,24,-1)
~SetScrollRange(SCROLLBAR_HANDLE3&,SB_CTL,1,24,-1)
~SetScrollPos(SCROLLBAR_HANDLE1&,SB_CTL,12,-1) /* set hor1 scroll bar 
to position 12 'wrapped ***********
~SetScrollPos(SCROLLBAR_HANDLE2&,SB_CTL,12,-1) /* set hor2 scroll bar 
to position 12 'wrapped ***********
~SetScrollPos(SCROLLBAR_HANDLE3&,SB_CTL,12,-1) /* set hor3 scroll bar 
to position 12 'wrapped ***********
/* main message loop
DO
  PEEKEVENT
LOOP UNTIL MENU(1) = 4
CLOSEW #1
/* callback procedure to get scroll bar messages
PROCEDURE CCB(window_handle&,message&,wparam&,lparam%)
  TEXT 20,160,"Play with them..."
  TEXT 20,180,"styleH% = WS_VISIBLE | WS_CHILD | SBS_HORZ"
  TEXT 20,200,"Org 'x' = 150, Org 'y' = 100, width = 200, height = 15"
  TEXT 20,220,"You can put'em in a GROUPBOX w/ WS_TABSTOP & even"
  TEXT 20,240," include a CHECKBOX to 'lock all 3 together'."
  TEXT 20,280,"Use <Alt>+<F4> or Win95's closebox to exit."
  SELECT message&
  CASE WM_HSCROLL       /* horizontal scroll bar
    /* current scroll position
    POS& = GetScrollPos(HIWORD(lparam%),SB_CTL)
    SELECT wparam&      /* type of message from scroll bar
    CASE SB_LINEUP      /* scroll up 1 position
      POS& --           /* 1 unit of 24 per click
    CASE SB_LINEDOWN    /* scroll down 1 position
      POS& ++           /* 1 unit of 24 per click
    CASE SB_PAGEUP      /* page up
      POS& -= 4         /* 4 units of 24 per click
    CASE SB_PAGEDOWN    /* page down
      POS& += 4         /* 4 units of 24 per click
    CASE SB_THUMBTRACK  /* scroll bar slider moved
      POS& = LOWORD(lparam%)
    ENDSELECT
    POS& = MAX(POS&,1)  /* set to minimum of 1
    POS& = MIN(POS&,24) /* set to maximum of 24
    /* set scroll bar to new position
    ~SetScrollPos(HIWORD(lparam%),SB_CTL,POS&,-1)
  ENDSELECT
RETURN

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:

Hi Tom !
Guess we're the only ones in here.  :)

I copied your program from Yahoo Mail
(Hey it actually works !)
into GFA, ran it and >Clink!<

Doesn't know what CreateWindow is.
It shows in RED for me and this is now meaning
it's a procedure I don't have !

If you want me to help you with your homework, you
need to send me the Teacher's Edition Schoolbook
with all the answers !  :)

Sincerely,
David W.

> Early into playing w/ GFA-W(16), I ran into a need
> for 3 scrolls
> to function properly in the same dialog.  It took me
> a long time
> to learn how it should be done.  These are in a
> window, but the
> whole procedure is much the same except for DLGITEM,
> etc.
> 
> Use <Alt>+<F4> or Win95's closebox to exit.
> 
> 6 lines containing: "'wrapped ***********" are
> wrapped by Eudora
> & must be made part of the lines above them.


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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:

Hi Tom !

Okay, I see it just make it didn't right fixed and
running it.

Hey !  This entirely is different program then
RubberRoom !  You want me to helping you with =ALL=
you projects ??  :)

Does scrollbars, nasty Window look things, I'm
gonna write my own with LowBlur as graphical engine
so cause they look like jewels !

Sincerely,
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
At 06:18 PM 26/03/00 -0800, you wrote:
>List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>Hi Tom !
>
>Okay, I see it just make it didn't right fixed and
>running it.
>
>Hey !  This entirely is different program then
>RubberRoom !  You want me to helping you with =ALL=
>you projects ??  :)
>
>

This is just one routine... nothing I put here is a full application.
This is where one can set Gamma, select a particular color, etc.  I
have no problems in this routine... I had to work it out a long time
ago as a color selector.  Now, I'll use something like this to do
the Gamma, Hue & Tint with the loghten/darken routine.

I can always use help, but prefer getting help w/ just the part that
is troublesome to me.  A complete re-write does me no good if it
deviates from my style because that means having to relearn my own
routine in what seems like another language.  Then, there's the conflict
over who's routine it is-was.

>
>
>Does scrollbars, nasty Window look things, I'm
>gonna write my own with LowBlur as graphical engine
>so cause they look like jewels !
>
>Sincerely,
>David W.
>

<G>
TomR.

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
At 06:00 PM 26/03/00 -0800, you wrote:
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>Hi Tom !
>Guess we're the only ones in here.  :)
>
>I copied your program from Yahoo Mail
>(Hey it actually works !)
>into GFA, ran it and >Clink!<
>
>Doesn't know what CreateWindow is.
>It shows in RED for me and this is now meaning
>it's a procedure I don't have !
>
>

What did you do this with?  The scroll routine has no CreateWindow.

>
>
>If you want me to help you with your homework, you
>need to send me the Teacher's Edition Schoolbook
>with all the answers !  :)
>
>Sincerely,
>David W.
>
>> Early into playing w/ GFA-W(16), I ran into a need
>> for 3 scrolls
>> to function properly in the same dialog.  It took me
>> a long time
>> to learn how it should be done.  These are in a
>> window, but the
>> whole procedure is much the same except for DLGITEM,
>> etc.
>> 
>> Use <Alt>+<F4> or Win95's closebox to exit.
>> 
>> 6 lines containing: "'wrapped ***********" are
>> wrapped by Eudora
>> & must be made part of the lines above them.
>
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Aww..  C'mon Tom !  Windows is so blaah..
Check this pix out I found years ago showing
the GOOD windows !
[enclosed]

This why I doodle my own gui cause its better !
And writing your own make now sure that no-one
routine messes up cause you written it your self.
:)

Here's your RubberRoom, see if this is better !
[enclosed]

Sincerely,
David W.

> This is just one routine... nothing I put here is a
> full application.
> This is where one can set Gamma, select a particular
> color, etc.  I
> have no problems in this routine... I had to work it
> out a long time
> ago as a color selector.  Now, I'll use something
> like this to do
> the Gamma, Hue & Tint with the loghten/darken
> routine.
> 
> I can always use help, but prefer getting help w/
> just the part that
> is troublesome to me.  A complete re-write does me
> no good if it
> deviates from my style because that means having to
> relearn my own
> routine in what seems like another language.  Then,
> there's the conflict
> over who's routine it is-was.


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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
And the question on every one's mind is:

How do you make all that neat internet software ?

Now I knowing we're not all going to rewrite
Netscape or Internet Explorer, but if we knew how
to access the internet phone line stuff we could
write a new FTP or offline text browser !

Maybe a search engine macro driver,
maybe a neat little Email program text only !

I'd like to write a FTP program myself cause
I using CoffeeCup and it not showing file length
and I know I could do better then that !  :)

Sincerely,
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
David
Much of it already exists in GFA-W(16). Roland has some
on his website.  I have some *.dlls you might want.

Get Eudora Lite... free & NO tight limitations.  I receive
e-mails up to 64K.  My ISP limits me to 10M total on their
server, so I delete after reading or, if I don't wanna read,
I can delete w/o opening.  It's majpr limit for me is a 72
char line length.  It wraps for itself, but sometimes leaves
wrap trash on the end of the lines it wraped.

http://www.qualcomm.com/

<G>
TomR.


At 06:01 AM 27/03/00 -0800, you wrote:
>List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
>And the question on every one's mind is:
>
>How do you make all that neat internet software ?
>
>Now I knowing we're not all going to rewrite
>Netscape or Internet Explorer, but if we knew how
>to access the internet phone line stuff we could
>write a new FTP or offline text browser !
>
>Maybe a search engine macro driver,
>maybe a neat little Email program text only !
>
>I'd like to write a FTP program myself cause
>I using CoffeeCup and it not showing file length
>and I know I could do better then that !  :)
>
>Sincerely,
>David W.
>
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:


--- Tom Record
<tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> David
> Much of it already exists in GFA-W(16). Roland has
> some
> on his website.  I have some *.dlls you might want.
> 
> Get Eudora Lite... free & NO tight limitations.  I
> receive
> e-mails up to 64K.  My ISP limits me to 10M total on
> their
> server, so I delete after reading or, if I don't
> wanna read,
> I can delete w/o opening.  It's majpr limit for me
> is a 72
> char line length.  It wraps for itself, but
> sometimes leaves
> wrap trash on the end of the lines it wraped.

Greets Tom:

I have EUDOR152.ZIP, brought it up, couldn't really
figure it out Yahoo Mail doesn't explain it too well
either ways.  And Yahoo Online Mail works pretty
good..  I allways hit [ENTER] at the end of every
one of my lines entered typed in.

On the line of internet goodies !  Yes !
Please let me know of some of what to do like
really =EASY= to understand !  I'm still working
on LowBlur (yah and I wanna patent it!)  :)

Sincerely,
David W.

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Greets Tom:

Here's a another little tasty tidbit morsel !
This fine program extracts out the serial # of
the computer !

And I'm serious Tom, need give everyone who has
contributed to your paint proggy at least
80 characters of credit each.

12345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890
David Wicker dw817@yahoo.com (RubberRoom, Serialz)
^ 50 characters exampling !

Ahhm..  That is if you actually are use the
Serial Culler in addition to with my RubberRoom.

You got 640 pixels across on the screen, that's good
for max 80 char. per text line !

1-line per programmer who you borrowed and learned
code from ain't gone to hurt ya !  :)

If you want smaller, I can doodle you a 4x12 pixel
font that'll double that to 160 char. per text line !

But please consider the ways I did credit for
Treasure Hunter where they are do scrolling up on
screen like Batman Movie Credits, its fun to watch
and looks better too  plus you got a really good
excuse to play super music with the credits !

I'll write you a movie scroller if you like.
And can provide a little over 2500 MIDs to get
you started.  :)

Okay !

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
At 01:42 PM 27/03/00 -0800, you wrote:
>Greets Tom:
>
>Here's a another little tasty tidbit morsel !
>This fine program extracts out the serial # of
>the computer !
>

Think I have it somewhere, just haven't checked lately.  Been
concentrating on HDs, etc.

>
>And I'm serious Tom, need give everyone who has
>contributed to your paint proggy at least
>80 characters of credit each.
>

I'm serious, too.  Please stop harping on this - you have NEVER
seen anything w/ my name on it that was complete.  You *may* have 
seen a few routines that I have posted, most of which bear the
name & usually the e-mail of the original author.  I sometimes
save *that* for a final version to save space in the e-mail or
the attachment because GFANET has a 40K limit, total.  I'm no
longer even mentioning authors who's name I don't know or can't
find anywhere.

Just as seriously, I do NOT work on paint or draw appls!  I work
w/ images... originally photographs.  I don't work w/ cad, either.
that's just a sophystocated draw program.  You don't see drawing
editors or painting editors... you see ONLY image editors.

I don't really figure *anybody* wants a song & dance for a contribution.
In Windows appls, it just isn't done.  Those who *do* fret about it do
add a note in their source that they want recognition in anybody's source
that uses a routine they worked out.  I go one better... I do give credit
for help in the About, so a user DOES see their names & e-mails.  I sure
as hell don't have to play music & serve coffee!

>
>
>Attachment Converted: C:\WORLDNET\DOWNLOAD\Serial.zip
>

TomR.

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List Member Anthony Watson <awatson@pacifier.com> wrote:
Tom,

> I don't really figure *anybody* wants a song & dance for a contribution.

I agree!

First, for whatever it is worth, anything I post here may be freely used
by anyone. I don't ask to receive any special recognition in other users
programs. If you choose to use my stuff, fine. If you choose to
acknowledge me for it, fine. But, I give because I choose to do so, not
because I'm wanting something out of it.

Besides, where would we supposedly draw the line? Should my
programs list the hundreds of authors I have learned tips and techniques
from? Should I list the authors of every programming book I read? Should I
list the names of my college instructors who first showed me how to
program? Should I list my high school typing teacher for teaching me to
type in the first place? This would clearly be ridiculous.

In my opinion, you shouldn't share programming information like this, if
you are expecting some kind of recognition for it. If you want
recognition, write up the program, and release it under your own
name. That way you will get full credit for your work.

Give because you choose to give freely, or don't give at all.

Take care,

Anthony


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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Now just a dadgum minute! NO COFEE?? (G)
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From: "Tom Record" <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net>
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Subject: Re: [gfabasic] Serial Culler is on the loose !


> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> At 01:42 PM 27/03/00 -0800, you wrote:
> >Greets Tom:
> >
> >Here's a another little tasty tidbit morsel !
> >This fine program extracts out the serial # of
> >the computer !
> >
>
> Think I have it somewhere, just haven't checked lately.  Been
> concentrating on HDs, etc.
>
> >
> >And I'm serious Tom, need give everyone who has
> >contributed to your paint proggy at least
> >80 characters of credit each.
> >
>
> I'm serious, too.  Please stop harping on this - you have NEVER
> seen anything w/ my name on it that was complete.  You *may* have
> seen a few routines that I have posted, most of which bear the
> name & usually the e-mail of the original author.  I sometimes
> save *that* for a final version to save space in the e-mail or
> the attachment because GFANET has a 40K limit, total.  I'm no
> longer even mentioning authors who's name I don't know or can't
> find anywhere.
>
> Just as seriously, I do NOT work on paint or draw appls!  I work
> w/ images... originally photographs.  I don't work w/ cad, either.
> that's just a sophystocated draw program.  You don't see drawing
> editors or painting editors... you see ONLY image editors.
>
> I don't really figure *anybody* wants a song & dance for a contribution.
> In Windows appls, it just isn't done.  Those who *do* fret about it do
> add a note in their source that they want recognition in anybody's source
> that uses a routine they worked out.  I go one better... I do give credit
> for help in the About, so a user DOES see their names & e-mails.  I sure
> as hell don't have to play music & serve coffee!
>
> >
> >
> >Attachment Converted: C:\WORLDNET\DOWNLOAD\Serial.zip
> >
>
> TomR.
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Think I have it somewhere, just haven't checked
> lately.  Been
> concentrating on HDs, etc.

Ahhm..  It's HD stuff Tom.
Reads the HD serial #.
Have you culled your serial # today ?

> 
> >
> >And I'm serious Tom, need give everyone who has
> >contributed to your paint proggy at least
> >80 characters of credit each.
> >
> 
> I'm serious, too.  Please stop harping on this - you
> have NEVER
> seen anything w/ my name on it that was complete. 
> You *may* have 
> seen a few routines that I have posted, most of
> which bear the
> name & usually the e-mail of the original author.  I
> sometimes
> save *that* for a final version to save space in the
> e-mail or
> the attachment because GFANET has a 40K limit,
> total.  I'm no
> longer even mentioning authors who's name I don't
> know or can't
> find anywhere.

Geesh Tom !  Don't wanna lick o' credit for anything
you do ??  I'm not that way..

> 
> Just as seriously, I do NOT work on paint or draw
> appls!  I work
> w/ images... originally photographs.  I don't work
> w/ cad, either.
> that's just a sophystocated draw program.  You don't
> see drawing
> editors or painting editors... you see ONLY image
> editors.

Well Image Editing photographs & stuff.  My
background in image quantization might help I can
snap a 100k .JPG down to about 20k little loss of
image clarity or quality, but you can't go scowling
all around all the time !  Cheer up !  It could be
worse, I could have known C++ and think how
obnoxious I'd be then ??  :)
> 
> I don't really figure *anybody* wants a song & dance
> for a contribution.
> In Windows appls, it just isn't done.  Those who
> *do* fret about it do
> add a note in their source that they want
> recognition in anybody's source
> that uses a routine they worked out.  I go one
> better... I do give credit
> for help in the About, so a user DOES see their
> names & e-mails.  I sure
> as hell don't have to play music & serve coffee!

Everyone wants a song & dance Tom..

There's a neat little Easter Egg in Win95,
I don't have it with me, but can get the magic
trick if you don't know it already,
you rename a new
folder 3 times with a funny name, open it,
the quadzillion bazillion people that made Win95
each get their 1 second of fame in the spotlight !
says their full name, their expertise & background,
it scrolls, animates, and yes, music does play in
the background.  It's really neat to watch and
the music is totally kick !

Tom, people like good things to enjoy like
animating colors, pretty music played, drop-jaw
"HowTheHeckDidTheyDoThat?!" graphic techniques all
kinds of stuff !  People don't buy a Playstation
cause the games are good to play (yah well that
helps!)  Most games sell cause they tweak the
player in just the right nip areas, like
music, artwork, animation, and craftsmanship.

When I write stuff Tom, I've got a little bitty
toothpick up against a glass mountain carving out
little crystal figures sometimes and sometimes neater
stuff like a jewel or two, only a sapphire or two
if it's really good but Tom I always try to make
sure they're about the size of my hand and no bigger.

You got to have patience ..
(Yah that's my artistic temperament, Tom)

(Gentle Smile)

Sincerely,
David W.


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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
 
> I agree!
> First, for whatever it is worth, anything I post
> here may be freely used
> by anyone. I don't ask to receive any special
> recognition in other users
> programs. If you choose to use my stuff, fine. If
> you choose to
> acknowledge me for it, fine. But, I give because I
> choose to do so, not
> because I'm wanting something out of it.

> 
> Besides, where would we supposedly draw the line?
> Should my
> programs list the hundreds of authors I have learned
> tips and techniques
> from? Should I list the authors of every programming
> book I read? Should I
> list the names of my college instructors who first
> showed me how to
> program? Should I list my high school typing teacher
> for teaching me to
> type in the first place? This would clearly be
> ridiculous.

* No Anthony, you draw the line on techniques that
can be considered marvelous or clever that another
author clearly would not have been able to understand,
conceive or achieve without the other person's
help.  It is a shared responsibility of both authors
to enjoy as well as carry the burden of credit.
There is a link of trust between the two of them.
One that the other shares their good ideas without
having them stolen, two, the other enjoys those ideas
recognizes the assistance of the other and pens
him or her in the credits list.

If this trust were broken the only way to prevent
against it in the future is complete disconnection
of sharing source.  There are many possibilities.
I do not give everything away I have freely because
by doing so places a zero (0) value on all of it.
I =SHARE= because I feel the balance is greater for
good than evil over the sharing of source code.

If all we dream of, imagine, fantasize, build our
hopes for is "free" then are they just as worthless ?

No, I'm sharing code (hoping a QBee programmer or
two will stay long enough to enjoy this marvelous
language) :)  I'm also sharing code cause Dale has
been very nice in accepting me and says nice things
about me.  Russell too.  They don't seem to have a
problem with me wanting 1 second in the limelight.

This compounded with the fact that nearly any damn
piece of code I've written has been ripped to high
heaven always unless I've protected it, I place myself
in a vulnerable position in this GFA.

I have confidence that we can all enjoy and learn
from each other and to me it's a real effort to
share some of the coding I have am with the almost
Pavlov's reaction to having my code ripped years
ago and for several years in the past.

I am my own worst critic, torturer, and accuser,
and quite honestly have no close friends, so my
mentor and mental is clear.

> In my opinion, you shouldn't share programming
> information like this, if
> you are expecting some kind of recognition for it.
> If you want
> recognition, write up the program, and release it
> under your own
> name. That way you will get full credit for your
> work.
> 
> Give because you choose to give freely, or don't
> give at all.

I share Anthony, no, you cannot take the toys from
my toy chest and call them your own but I will
share them if you will share yours with me.  :)

Please Consider

Sincerely,
David W.


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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:


--- Dale Bryant <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com>
> wrote:
> Now just a dadgum minute! NO COFEE?? (G)
> Dale Bryant

Yah Dale we been busy little bees all morning long,
You just now getting around to your coffee ?  :)
  )
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tom Record"
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net>
> To: <gfabasic@gfa.net>
> Sent: Monday, March 27, 2000 3:14 PM
> Subject: Re: [gfabasic] Serial Culler is on the
> loose !
> 
> 
> > List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> > At 01:42 PM 27/03/00 -0800, you wrote:
> > >Greets Tom:
> > >
> > >Here's a another little tasty tidbit morsel !
> > >This fine program extracts out the serial # of
> > >the computer !
> > >
> >
> > Think I have it somewhere, just haven't checked
> lately.  Been
> > concentrating on HDs, etc.
> >
> > >
> > >And I'm serious Tom, need give everyone who has
> > >contributed to your paint proggy at least
> > >80 characters of credit each.
> > >
> >
> > I'm serious, too.  Please stop harping on this -
> you have NEVER
> > seen anything w/ my name on it that was complete. 
> You *may* have
> > seen a few routines that I have posted, most of
> which bear the
> > name & usually the e-mail of the original author. 
> I sometimes
> > save *that* for a final version to save space in
> the e-mail or
> > the attachment because GFANET has a 40K limit,
> total.  I'm no
> > longer even mentioning authors who's name I don't
> know or can't
> > find anywhere.
> >
> > Just as seriously, I do NOT work on paint or draw
> appls!  I work
> > w/ images... originally photographs.  I don't work
> w/ cad, either.
> > that's just a sophystocated draw program.  You
> don't see drawing
> > editors or painting editors... you see ONLY image
> editors.
> >
> > I don't really figure *anybody* wants a song &
> dance for a contribution.
> > In Windows appls, it just isn't done.  Those who
> *do* fret about it do
> > add a note in their source that they want
> recognition in anybody's source
> > that uses a routine they worked out.  I go one
> better... I do give credit
> > for help in the About, so a user DOES see their
> names & e-mails.  I sure
> > as hell don't have to play music & serve coffee!
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >Attachment Converted:
> C:\WORLDNET\DOWNLOAD\Serial.zip
> > >
> >
> > TomR.
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List Member Anthony Watson <awatson@pacifier.com> wrote:
David,

> It is a shared responsibility of both authors
> to enjoy as well as carry the burden of credit.

I am not against acknowledging the contributions you may make. 
I am against "expecting" this acknowledgement.

It is sort of like giving money to the poor, expecting something in return
(like a tax break, higher social status, or whatever).

> If this trust were broken the only way to prevent
> against it in the future is complete disconnection
> of sharing source.

I may be in the minority, but I believe there are still plenty of folks
out there who will share source code without any recognition
whatsoever. Most programmers know that they have gotten where they are
thanks to the contributions others made along the way. They are simply
returning what was given to them when they started out.

> This compounded with the fact that nearly any damn
> piece of code I've written has been ripped to high
> heaven always unless I've protected it

Just a thought... People can't steal what you give away freely...

I'm happy to share source code with others (when I feel I have something
to contribute and can find the time to do so). If I have some technique or
tip I feel is too unique or valuable to be used by others, I simply do not
share it.

Take care,

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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
To share or not to share.
I really do not want to get into an argument about sharing code. I think it
would be evident to all exactly how I feel about it.  I have so many people
who share their code with me.  The GFAWHELP file and the GFAWHELP web site
would not have been possible without the willingness of so many of you that
are willing to share.   The Not Affiliated With Gfa news letters would also
fall by the wayside if everyone stops sharing ideas and code.
I spend hours each week keeping the web site current and collecting material
for both these endeavors. There have been so many contributors I cannot even
start to name them all but I am thankful to each and every one of them.
When I have a programming problem I go to Joe Hurst,  Eberhard Funck or John
Findlay.  I wouldn't even try to do all that I do without their help.  I am
currently working, along with all the other stuff, a Windows Help file for
GB32. When I started converting all the API calls to GB32 I asked John
Findlay to write me a C type interface for it.  I think John sent it to me
the very next day.   What a blessing it is to me to have such knowledgeable
and willing people to turn to.   I get email from all over this world from
programmers thanking me for the web site and the GFAWHELP file.  I am not so
self centered to think that the thanks are for me, it is for all of you who
so willing shared your code with others. I thank you and I am sure that
many, many programmers learning GFA thank you also. It is by far the best
way to learn.

CREDITS:
Some programmers want credit and some do not.  I recall a very good tutorial
written for the news letter where the author emphatically stated he did not
want his name mentioned.  I certainly respected his wishes. I had all kinds
of good comments on his tutorial.  I couldn't help but think if I had
written it I would certainly want my name associated with it.  Let us just
say we are all different.  I always try to give credit to the author of any
code or material that I use or any code that I make available.  I feel that
it is only fair when they are so willing to share with me.  When I receive
code I always ask explicit permission before using it for publication. I do
NOT want to offend anyone nor do I want to think that I have grabbed their
code and made it my own.  Sharing keeps all my projects going and it
certainly helps a lot of people as it is made available.  So, thanks to all
who share!!!
Dale



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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:


--- Dale Bryant <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com>
> wrote:
> To share or not to share.

* I will share my toys, but not give them 100%
freely to complete strangers..

> I really do not want to get into an argument about
> sharing code. I think it
> would be evident to all exactly how I feel about it.
>  I have so many people
> who share their code with me.  The GFAWHELP file and
> the GFAWHELP web site
> would not have been possible without the willingness
> of so many of you that
> are willing to share.   The Not Affiliated With Gfa
> news letters would also
> fall by the wayside if everyone stops sharing ideas
> and code.

* Well Dale, for the most part I only learned from
Russell cause we go back and forth a week in a over
500 line message swapping trading ideas and stuff.

Most of the stuff is over my head, occasionally he
says something that I figure I can understand if I
go REALLY REALLY slow cause I'm supposed to have
brain problems are something (will know when I see
neurosurgeon tomorrow).  

Add to that, you, Dale for that SETMOUSE V:A$ thingie
!
It is so neat to doodle my own mouse pix in 64
million colors !  :)

And of course Mr. Loock who approached me first
when I asked about MIDI note things.  I give him
credit for putting up with me (yah I know that's
an effort!) but also for SHARING, I would never
take it from him, his .DLL technique to play
MIDI notes.

But I'll be honest now, I have a little over 1800
source codes in .GFW and .LST and precious few
of them have taught me anything I can understand !

Coming from the QBee world I learn almost entirely
by example and =NEVER= by the book unless I am
strapped to a wall and force fed one page at a time.

Yah I've gotten used to the flavor of documentation
pages now.  :)

You guys are drowning me in so much C++ structure !
Auuuuuugggh !  (Tension breaker!)  Okay.  :)

I have over 100megs of pure QB source code, great
stuff ray-trace polygonal graphics play midi
background
jukebox .MOD files, twisted necromatic plasma
entropy fields man it just burns the tongue to talk
about it its so amazing, most of the really neat
stuff I didn't write but others did.

Now the tables are turned, I'm the graphic guy and
everyone else out there is the number crunchers
with a few exceptions to that .JPG, .GIF loader
thingie but Tom you gotta see Display, it's =YEARS=
faster than this !

I enjoy GFABasic but I can kinna now appreciate
and respect my QBee friends not wanting to be here
cause it really is all C++ .  If Russell hadna
showed me the big 4 excellent: Editor, Memory,
Audio, Graphics, I wouldna be here chatting about
it !

Graphics & Music are about the most important things
in the world of computers to me.  If Russell fidgeted
on any one of these, I would be back in QBasic in
a heartbeat.  He didn't, he provided, and GFA is an
amazing language that has barely scratched the
surface of "amazing" yet !

I =REALLY= do appreciate what Dale (That's you!) said
earlier about me that I do add Color to the GFA
scouts, but at the same token, aside from one super
neato game that Russell made (which he's ashamed of
and shouldn't be cause its really good!), I doubt
now or in the future I will understand anything much
more from you guys cause you're all programming at
such a different level then me.

And I don't think I can count on you guys and gals
for any screen neato
things, games, or anything that is exquistely
artistic and especially SERVES NO PURPOSE IN LIFE
(That's the best kind of software right there !)
:)

Everything I've seen written so far in GFA has
like a Ph.D. attached to it, serves to compute
really busy stuff, water pressure at some dams
was one I saw, another for scientific work.

>Khaak!<  I'm choking on the dust here people !
This stuff went out with GWBasic !

With me, it's a one way street.  If I share something,
I imagine for the most part it's understandable, I
really do try well and document give notes to all
my stuff.  I think someone could easily more
understand
my source code then a lotta of other stuff out there.

So in a way I am giving and not receiving anything,
except little snippets from Russel, Dale, and
Mr. Loock.  I think for the most part I have given
a fair piece in here (check the last few files
added).  Now I'm not trying to cheez on you guys
for not providing neat stuff.  I'm a kid in a candy
store and that always gives someone an edge being
high on sugar.  :)

Now Anthony mentioned that he doesn't share the really
good stuff but keeps that for himself.  Which is
perfectly alright.  Aside from Gredit, you guys have
the source code to just about everything I've written
and it must hold some merit cause Dale keeps posting
it.  :)

Dale didna originally post my MIDI&WAV (yah I was
learning!), but finally did cause I guess I keep
referring to it as source material.  Thanks Dale !

Lowblur I am working on is really kick, it's really
good but it's so completely different then window
DLLs, .RES .RC files any that stuff.

I have asked myself which is more important,
a programming language or the programmer ?  In my
early years I thought if I hadda super really good
monstro computer or programming language I could do
anything.  No..  I was very mistaken.  And this may
go against the grain of wood on everyone in here.

It is not the programming language that dictates
how well a package is going to be but the programmer
him(her?)self.

If I was teleported 10 years into the past and
could only carry one thing:
1) Computer light years ahead in future
2) Programming Language light years ahead in future
3) Source code light years ahead in future
4) Good ideas from the future

I would put my dibs on the good idea.

Computers run the programs.
Programmers run the computers.
Creativity run the programmers.  :)

Yes, that's original made it just now !
Wow !  I gotta keep that one !  (Big Smile!)

I've had =SO= many people say word for word to me
and it's funny as can be to hear.  I'm showing them
something I wrote in QBasic and they say:

"David, I've never seen anyone program something so
 GOOD in such a BAD programming language !"  ^o^

Would it hurt me to post LowBlur which is almost an
entire operating system structure at this point ?
If I do and, if as you say, I was to
give it freely and not ask for credit, then I would
receive none and the more than 7+ days I've been
fiddling with it is for naught ?

Sorry guys, sometimes I like to read that postcard
in the mailbox that says Thanks, and you betcha,
there's quite a few programmers out there who
are =VERY= religious about receiving postcards to
register software.

I appreciate Dale understanding my need for wanting
my ego stroked sometimes, cause sometimes I get so
really =REALLY= excited I'm dancing, calling up my
Dad say look look it's really neat, it's fast
colorful bright snap flash Candy Thunder and
you can hear the colors cause they so bright !

If I do something =REALLY= good and then give it
away like I don't care, that's how I got mental
problems trying to force myself to think that way
for companies.  It doesn't work and I did cut 3
tendons, one wrist is a snip slower than the other
but I got meds for that.

Tom, you need some painkillers or antidepressants
I've got Nortriptyline 75mg for ya bud !  :)

No to me it's really exciting stuff !  Makes a
shiver roll up the back of your shoulders and roll
up the top till your hair stands on end.

I played Lunar Blue on the Playstation for the first
time, it was so kick !  There's a scene where Luna
this shy young girl in her 20s is standing on the
crow's nest up in a ship singing to the stars
well past midnight.  It is so damned beautiful !
The tears came easy, the shivers just about wracked
my body into contortions it was so beautiful !

Now, Dad saw it my neighbors cause I all wanted them
to see, I said ohmigod you gotta see this it is so
totally amazing incredibiblingble they say that's
pretty David and that's it ???

AM I the only one who can taste the colors and see
the music ??

That's the kinna stuff I wanna write.

This is where my head is.  And you'd better be damn
sure I want credit for my good stuff.  :P

> When I have a programming problem I go to Joe Hurst,
>  Eberhard Funck or John
> Findlay.  I wouldn't even try to do all that I do
> without their help.

  I am not so
> self centered to think that the thanks are for me,
> it is for all of you who
> so willing shared your code with others. I thank you
> and I am sure that
> many, many programmers learning GFA thank you also.
> It is by far the best
> way to learn.
 
> CREDITS:
> Some programmers want credit
> I always try to give
> credit to the author of any
> code or material that I use or any code that I make
> available.  I feel that
> it is only fair when they are so willing to share
> with me.  When I receive
> code I always ask explicit permission before using
> it for publication. I do
> NOT want to offend anyone nor do I want to think
> that I have grabbed their
> code and made it my own.  Sharing keeps all my
> projects going and it
> certainly helps a lot of people as it is made
> available.  So, thanks to all
> who share!!!
> Dale

Here here Dale !  Hey you're working here aren't ya ?
Gimme another round of Root Beer, thanks !  :)

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member Anthony Watson <awatson@pacifier.com> wrote:
David,

> Everything I've seen written so far in GFA has
> like a Ph.D. attached to it

Other than a single class in BASIC and FORTRAN programming in college, I'm
mostly self-taught. No Ph.D's from me... Ha. Ha.

> Anthony mentioned that he doesn't share the really
> good stuff but keeps that for himself.

I guess it came out sounding that way, but that wasn't my
intention. Usually, I just do not have the time to share code. The rest of
the time, I feel a little out of my league. I usually feel like the others
in this group have as much or more programming knowledge than I do. I
guess I feel others would look at my source code and laugh at the
simplicity of it all. Ha. Ha.

Of course, there "are" those rare code items that I won't share because
they are rare items I use to earn a living. But, a good portion of what I
write is either derived from stuff I have learned from others, is too
simplistic to bother sharing, or is too in depth to show as a quick
"how-to".

Take care,

Anthony


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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Well, it's late and the guys in white suits
are coming 9am tomorrow morning !  :/

Better take my meds cause they gone check out
that I know huuuuuuum !!

Anthony, if you have a homepage with some of your
stuff I'd like to see please !

You sayed you don't have a Ph.D. so I might could
maybe well understand some of the stuff you write
and maybe if I try understand some of it.

Oh !  And don't balk yourself for writing too simple
code !  Look how long I DR-RA-AG-GG-GE-ED out
Russell's SetDC Demo, Crystal Winds, and Midi&Wav !

Good learning stuff for newbies I think !
especially me !  :)

Sincerely,
David W.

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> List Member Anthony Watson <awatson@pacifier.com>
> wrote:
> David,
> 
> > Everything I've seen written so far in GFA has
> > like a Ph.D. attached to it
> 
> Other than a single class in BASIC and FORTRAN
> programming in college, I'm
> mostly self-taught. No Ph.D's from me... Ha. Ha.
> 
> > Anthony mentioned that he doesn't share the really
> > good stuff but keeps that for himself.
> 
> I guess it came out sounding that way, but that
> wasn't my
> intention. Usually, I just do not have the time to
> share code. The rest of
> the time, I feel a little out of my league. I
> usually feel like the others
> in this group have as much or more programming
> knowledge than I do. I
> guess I feel others would look at my source code and
> laugh at the
> simplicity of it all. Ha. Ha.
> 
> Of course, there "are" those rare code items that I
> won't share because
> they are rare items I use to earn a living. But, a
> good portion of what I
> write is either derived from stuff I have learned
> from others, is too
> simplistic to bother sharing, or is too in depth to
> show as a quick
> "how-to".
> 
> Take care,
> 
> Anthony
> 
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List Member "Roland Walter" <roland@rowalt.de> wrote:
In attachement You will find a very small DLL
(1024 bytes) which You can use to fill it with
resources (icons, bitmaps, dialogs etc.).
In GFA Basic You can use LoadLibrary() to load the DLL
and after LoadBitmap(), LoadCursor() and so on to
load the resources You had put into the DLL.

To put resources into the DLL You can use the
Borland Resource Workshop, MS Application Studio
and a lot of other resource programs.

The benefit of the EMPTY.DLL is that there is no
dead code in which can steal space or time.
If You would create a resource-only DLL using
GFA Basic there is a lot of default runtime code
in which is not needed if You like to store resources
only. Also C would produce much bigger DLLs.
The EMPTY.DLL against is really the possible
minimum ;-)
To produce such a small DLL I of course had to
use Assembler.

Many fun,
Roland Walter
roland@rowalt.de
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List Member "Georg Veichtlbauer" <veichtlbauer@gmx.at> wrote:
Damn... how do you do that, Roland? From time to time, you really shock me.
DLL programming in Assembler... sounds really neat. uP - programming in
Assembler - OK, Windows programming in Basic/C (and sometimes Assembler) -
OK.
But creating a DLL in pure Assembler? Do you have too much spare time? ;-))

Unfortunately, there was no attachment..


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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
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An older GFA-W(16) demo, updated somewhat.  Any changes &
additions I made to it belong to the group - use as you
will.  I regret I haven't found the routine I have that
gets the drive serial number.  I *think* Bev has one, too.

I *tried* to put the guts of drivsize.dll in the source,
but it keeps bombing on me when making the call to the
procedure.  There aren't many fish in this pond, anyway.
<G>
TomR.

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
At 04:28 PM 27/03/00 -0800, you wrote:
>List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Think I have it somewhere, just haven't checked
>> lately.  Been
>> concentrating on HDs, etc.
>
>Ahhm..  It's HD stuff Tom.
>Reads the HD serial #.
>Have you culled your serial # today ?
>

What I have gets name & serial # of any disk.  I can rename, but
not change the serial #.  Yet.
TomR.

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Subject: Re: [gfabasic] SHARING AND CREDITS
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Very nice, Anthony & Dale, but... STILL NO COFFEE or band <G>.

I really like being patted on the shoulder, but get incensed
at being patted on the head.  Virtually everything I have written
that was worthwhile has gone to Dale or the maillist.  It isn't
likely to make me a dime, but I feel good at the thot that I've 
helped somebody else around a deep puddle or prickly tumbleweed.
<G>
TomR.


At 05:30 PM 27/03/00 -0800, you wrote:
>List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
>To share or not to share.
>I really do not want to get into an argument about sharing code. I think it
>would be evident to all exactly how I feel about it.  I have so many people
>who share their code with me.  The GFAWHELP file and the GFAWHELP web site
>would not have been possible without the willingness of so many of you that
>are willing to share.   The Not Affiliated With Gfa news letters would also
>fall by the wayside if everyone stops sharing ideas and code.
>I spend hours each week keeping the web site current and collecting material
>for both these endeavors. There have been so many contributors I cannot even
>start to name them all but I am thankful to each and every one of them.
>When I have a programming problem I go to Joe Hurst,  Eberhard Funck or John
>Findlay.  I wouldn't even try to do all that I do without their help.  I am
>currently working, along with all the other stuff, a Windows Help file for
>GB32. When I started converting all the API calls to GB32 I asked John
>Findlay to write me a C type interface for it.  I think John sent it to me
>the very next day.   What a blessing it is to me to have such knowledgeable
>and willing people to turn to.   I get email from all over this world from
>programmers thanking me for the web site and the GFAWHELP file.  I am not so
>self centered to think that the thanks are for me, it is for all of you who
>so willing shared your code with others. I thank you and I am sure that
>many, many programmers learning GFA thank you also. It is by far the best
>way to learn.
>
>CREDITS:
>Some programmers want credit and some do not.  I recall a very good tutorial
>written for the news letter where the author emphatically stated he did not
>want his name mentioned.  I certainly respected his wishes. I had all kinds
>of good comments on his tutorial.  I couldn't help but think if I had
>written it I would certainly want my name associated with it.  Let us just
>say we are all different.  I always try to give credit to the author of any
>code or material that I use or any code that I make available.  I feel that
>it is only fair when they are so willing to share with me.  When I receive
>code I always ask explicit permission before using it for publication. I do
>NOT want to offend anyone nor do I want to think that I have grabbed their
>code and made it my own.  Sharing keeps all my projects going and it
>certainly helps a lot of people as it is made available.  So, thanks to all
>who share!!!
>Dale
>
>
>
>Dale Bryant
>http://gfawhelp.com
>http://gfawhelp.gfa.net
>adbryant@msn.com
>adbryant@gfa.net
>
>
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Wanted:
Ugly photos for the GFAWHELP biography page.   Handsome also accepted
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
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I really like being patted on the shoulder, but get
incensed
at being patted on the head.  Virtually everything I
have written
that was worthwhile has gone to Dale or the maillist. 
It isn't
likely to make me a dime, but I feel good at the thot
that I've 
helped somebody else around a deep puddle or prickly
tumbleweed.
<G>
TomR.

Well Tom, certainly I don't plan to make any money
at this sorta thing either, tho it's curious I've
seen some really bad software out there, mostly
Turbo Pascal, that sells well and is, ahhm..  Well,
a piece of junk..

But to re-emphasize what I mentioned earlier, I do
want credit for what I write.  And a pat on the head
is as good as a wink or a nod to a blind horse.

Well, I'm not blind but I do spend a great deal of
time programming in an almost windowless room so
I'm kinna unfamiliar with the brightness of the
sunlight.  :)

Sincerely,
David W.


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Subject: [gfabasic] Misplaced monkey from one out of one million
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
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Well I made it back in one piece but what on ordeal !

Well so how did the doctor's go ??
Had me do all kinds of coo    ati
                          rdin   on exercises..  :)

No they didn't give me a round and square peg to
pop thru a round and square hole, besides that
round peg fits right thru the square hole if you
bop it hard enough with a hammer.  :)

But..  They say I need to come back again a few
weeks or so for an EEG, which is a deep level brain
probing, most uncomfortable and tedious.  They hook
several dozen wires to my head and put gelatin on my
scalp to check the electric activity level.

Well, I hope I'm here to protect or hold the belief
in wanting to protect what little that I have written
before I get locked up again.  Probably not, get some
time to play a piano again tho that's all ways nice..

Having read the entire set of Email upon my
return I see the ownership and credit issue has
been quite avoided..  Which is a very big
disappointment to me.  I had hoped - well, I had
hoped for something at least..

Dale, I'm at odds with myself..  I don't know if
what I'm writing is for the good of the team or
just getting filed away in here by readers who
don't post and perhaps use my good ideas later like,
so many other people before them I have met in my
life who have never given credit to what I do, say,
or create.  I just don't know..

I left the world of QBasic many years before because
my stuff was getting taken from there too.  Only when
I found a keen level of programmers that matched or
exceeded my programming skills, (and they also wrote
the same kinna stuff), was I really feeling at home..
The key persons at QB.COM understood my feelings,
and did seem to appreciate what I wrote and all so
understood the mentality that drove me to write what
I did.

I cannot and will not go back to QBasic even if all
of my friends are very politely and patiently waiting
for me to throw my hands up in the air and leave this
GFA.  The language is just too powerful and too useful
to abandon, even if no-one from QBee will join me
in my fallen crusade to educate and entertain newbies
into this rich, colorful, and wonderful language,
I will not and cannot abandon GFA.

I guess I kind of surprised myself when I clicked
out over 200 megabytes of QBasic source code that
I had written and several hundred other people have
written before, during, and after my introduction in
to QBasic.  I had no idea it has absorbed my life so.

An additional benefit was just about anything anyone
in there wrote, and that's over 300 active people
posting every day, I always learned something new from
the coding.  That is not happening here..

I am not finding reasons within myself to continue
posting good code if it is all for naught and I
gain complete emptiness and worry from it..

Dale, you certainly have made me feel very welcome
here and I do thank you for that.  Likewise Russell
and Mr. Loock..  I thought what I posted yesterday
was straight from my heart..  I don't think GFA
is ready for LowBlur..  And perhaps GFA will not
want it or perhaps even understand it.  I have enough
knowledge to rebuild Pyramax from years ago and
perhaps that is enough for me to see from today to the
distant horizon of tomorrow..

And ultimately write the final RPG Generator,
my life's dream... .. .

This is difficult for me because above all things
I hate being alone without even a tormenter for
company.  Complete aloneness is much worse than that..

But I don't want to lose you three good friends
in the process.  Dale, I will not retract what I
have written nor expect it back.  Perhaps in time
it may well be appreciated and enjoyed by someone
who has a mental structure such as my own who can
indeed HEAR the colors and SEE the music in life
and maybe I'll have a chance to witness some of the
dramatic programming they do that matches if not
exceeds my own in ease of use, understanding, and
above all the code serves absolutely no purpose in
life whatsoever except as an artistic impression;
the best kind of coding there is.  (Gentle Smile)

But I don't think it is now..

Russell, I will continue to write you and send you
my coding because of your kindness to introduce me to
the world of GFA, and because you have put up with me
and my temperament so very admirably well !  :)

Mr. Loock, thank you for putting up with all of my
idiosyncracies and seeing me as an artist before a
programmer !  Without you, I would not be able to
enjoy the Wind Chimes which I play every night now
to lull me to sleep since I am all but shut out
completely from the regular world living in this
coccoon we call life.

I need time to sort out my own feelings on what has
happened here or what I believe has happened here..

Dale:
.
.
.
there's a very funny story and I think it applies,
called the Infinite Number of Monkeys.

It came to pass that research was conducted at high
expense to acquire and train exactly 1 million monkeys
to type on a typewriter.  Their belief was that all
the great stories of the world could ever be written
and the profound and vast knowledge to be gained would
surpass even the keenest scientific desires.

So was the theory.

The experiment was a curious and
interesting one and we find ourselves drawn up to
one curious simian fellow who is busily eating a
banana with his right paw and rapidly typing with
his left foot...  Let's see what he's typing
shall we ? >>>

djkeoiecnhoiuery3boiuec.ec..e.c
reo,com.eeo o.h Ro#eiimeo wheerefore art thou
romeo.-=== i'm up>here in the do3iepiemce
eiemceoimc
ec9ererc8er8300983necuic ioducnc

... .. .

So close..

So very close...

Perhaps with just a few more monkeys...!  :)

Sincerely,
David W.


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List Member "Bev Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
Actually, I do have a 'routine' to get the serial number of a disk/drive;
onliest problem is that gets the info from the disk itself -- sector 0 to be
exact -- & it uses interrupts to do it. INTR $25/26 worked perfectly for
12/16-bit FATs (still does) but with the new 32-bit FAT using INTR $21 sub
$7305/6 which I have not been able to get working (I've left numerous
messages) about this over the last year or so) I can not get this info. I
would really like to find out how to do this (got to BIG programs just
waiting on this).

If you want the routine, let me know & I'll make a little program showing
it.

                             -->Bev<--


List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
At 04:28 PM 27/03/00 -0800, you wrote:
>List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Think I have it somewhere, just haven't checked
>> lately.  Been
>> concentrating on HDs, etc.
>
>Ahhm..  It's HD stuff Tom.
>Reads the HD serial #.
>Have you culled your serial # today ?
>

What I have gets name & serial # of any disk.  I can rename, but
not change the serial #.  Yet.
TomR.

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
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Fare thee well, David.
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Probably should make it available, Boss.  Thanks.
<G>
TomR.


At 06:27 AM 29/03/00 -0500, you wrote:
>List Member "Bev Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
>Actually, I do have a 'routine' to get the serial number of a disk/drive;
>onliest problem is that gets the info from the disk itself -- sector 0 to be
>exact -- & it uses interrupts to do it. INTR $25/26 worked perfectly for
>12/16-bit FATs (still does) but with the new 32-bit FAT using INTR $21 sub
>$7305/6 which I have not been able to get working (I've left numerous
>messages) about this over the last year or so) I can not get this info. I
>would really like to find out how to do this (got to BIG programs just
>waiting on this).
>
>If you want the routine, let me know & I'll make a little program showing
>it.
>
>                             -->Bev<--
>
>
>List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>At 04:28 PM 27/03/00 -0800, you wrote:
>>List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> Think I have it somewhere, just haven't checked
>>> lately.  Been
>>> concentrating on HDs, etc.
>>
>>Ahhm..  It's HD stuff Tom.
>>Reads the HD serial #.
>>Have you culled your serial # today ?
>>
>
>What I have gets name & serial # of any disk.  I can rename, but
>not change the serial #.  Yet.
>TomR.
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Hi David,
I don't quite understand what has happened that you feel that you do not
want to share with the rest of us anymore.  I am sure that I have always
given you credit for your code and always will. I cannot help but feel that
perhaps you are reading things into some of the mesages that are not there.
Your programming style can teach all of us new ways to do things and that is
invaluable.  David, let me ask you a question.  If you don't share any of
your code who will give you any credit for it?  You have done some very nice
programs. Please do not stop!  Lets us keep on saying , David Wicker wrote
that!

Dale.
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Tornados at Ft.Worth, but David has gone offline

/* rect05d.lst, a functional replacement for GFA-W(16)'s RUBBERBOX
/* Rectangular selection, based on something I found w/ NO author.
/* RUBBERBOX does NOT allow tracking the mouse for positioning it!
/* Many thanks to Bev for confirming this for me.  TomR. 29 Mar 2000
/* In practical use, GetPixel() & SetPixel() could determine the
/* color scheme by reversing each pixel, & since I'm interested
/* in cropping or copying a portion, I don't sweat the extra line
/* lengths very much.  The lines aren't absolutely necessary.
/* If you see this, you may use if it serves a need!!!
/* If you improve it, please post so others can gain by it!!!!!!!
/*     TomR.'s "SOP" (Standard Operating Procedure)!

OPENW #1,0,0,_X,_Y,16
PRINT AT(25,10);"LEFT-click UPPER LEFT corner first, then"
PRINT AT(25,12);"LEFT-click LOWER RIGHT corner to finish."
PRINT AT(28,15);"RIGHT-click to EXIT.    <G> TomR."

DO                        /* main loop (this *could* be a PROCEDURE)
  ax% = mx%,ay% = my%,ak% = mk% /* track the mouse & display position
  MOUSE mx%,my%,mk%
  IF (ax% <> mx%) || (ay% <> my%) || (ak% <> mk%)
    a$ = "TrackRat: " + STR$(mx%) + ", " + STR$(my%) + "   "
    a$ = a$ + "UL: " + STR$(xOrg&) + ", " + STR$(yOrg&) + "   "
    a$ = a$ + "LR: " + STR$(xFin&) + ", " + STR$(yFin&) + "  or... "
    IF xFin& - xOrg& < 0 THEN         /* eliminate negative numbers
      wid& = 0
    ELSE
      wid& = xFin& - xOrg&
    ENDIF
    IF yFin& - yOrg& < 0 THEN
      hig& = 0
    ELSE
      hig& = yFin& - yOrg&
    ENDIF
    a$ = a$ + STR$(wid&) + "w by " + STR$(hig&) + "h"
    a$ = a$ + " org @: " + STR$(xOrg&) + ", " + STR$(yOrg&) + CHR$(0)
    TITLEW #1,a$                              /* update the caption
  ENDIF
  GETEVENT
  SWITCH _Mess
  CASE WM_LBUTTONDOWN         /* only a single click is necessary
    pT& ++
    IF pT& = 1
      @Opn                         /* upper left corner procedure
    ENDIF
    IF pT& = 2
      @Cloe                        /* lower right corner procedure
    ENDIF
  CASE WM_RBUTTONDOWN                  /* get the hell out of it!
    '  CASE WM_LBUTTONDBLCLK                /* would clean & exit
    EXIT IF 1
  ENDSWITCH
LOOP
CLEAR                                              /* housekeeping
CLOSEW #1
END

PROCEDURE Opn                                 /* upper left corner
  COLOR GETNEAREST(0,0,0)
  DRAW LOWORD(_lParam),HIWORD(_lParam)
  xOrg& = LOWORD(_lParam),yOrg& = HIWORD(_lParam)
  LINE LOWORD(_lParam),HIWORD(_lParam),_X,HIWORD(_lParam) /* horz
  LINE LOWORD(_lParam),HIWORD(_lParam),LOWORD(_lParam),_Y /* vert
RETURN

PROCEDURE Cloe                                /* lower right corner
  COLOR GETNEAREST(0,0,0)
  DRAW LOWORD(_lParam),HIWORD(_lParam)
  xFin& = LOWORD(_lParam),yFin& = HIWORD(_lParam)
  LINE xOrg&,HIWORD(_lParam),LOWORD(_lParam),HIWORD(_lParam) /* horz
  LINE LOWORD(_lParam),yOrg&,LOWORD(_lParam),HIWORD(_lParam) /* vert
  COLOR GETNEAREST(255,255,255)  /* blot out the extra line lengths
  LINE xFin& + 1,yOrg&,_X,yOrg&       /* top horz line tail removal
  LINE xOrg&,yFin& + 1,xOrg&,_Y      /* left vert line tail removal
  pT& = 0          /* resetting to 0 allows more than one selection
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
There was once a young man who, in his youth, professed his
desire become a great writer.

When asked to define "great" he said, "I want to write 
stuff that the whole world will read, stuff that people 
will react to on a truly emotional level, stuff that will 
make them scream, cry, howl in pain and anger!"

* He now works for Microsoft, writing error messages.

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Dale
His e-mail adrs is dead.  No way for me to see if he's OK after the tornado
this evening.  You, Loock & Russell are probably the only ones who will
hear from him now.  I tried sending him the font renamer he asked me for.
<G>
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>I don't quite understand what has happened that you feel that you do not
>want to share with the rest of us anymore.  I am sure that I have always
>given you credit for your code and always will. I cannot help but feel that
>perhaps you are reading things into some of the mesages that are not there.
>Your programming style can teach all of us new ways to do things and that is
>invaluable.  David, let me ask you a question.  If you don't share any of
>your code who will give you any credit for it?  You have done some very nice
>programs. Please do not stop!  Lets us keep on saying , David Wicker wrote
>that!
>
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Hi Bev,

> Actually, I do have a 'routine' to get the serial number of a disk/drive;
> onliest problem is that gets the info from the disk itself -- sector 0 to
be
> exact -- & it uses interrupts to do it. INTR $25/26 worked perfectly for
> 12/16-bit FATs (still does) but with the new 32-bit FAT using INTR $21 sub
> $7305/6 which I have not been able to get working (I've left numerous
> messages) about this over the last year or so) I can not get this info. I
> would really like to find out how to do this (got to BIG programs just
> waiting on this).

I've attached a program to get the serial number of the drive without using
interrupts, might be interesting to you. It only works under 32-bit Windows,
although I think a Win32s version could be done if that is important.

HTH,
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Here it be; enjoy!  <g>

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Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2000 6:52 AM
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> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Probably should make it available, Boss.  Thanks.
> <G>
> TomR.
>
>
> At 06:27 AM 29/03/00 -0500, you wrote:
> >List Member "Bev Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
> >Actually, I do have a 'routine' to get the serial number of a disk/drive;
> >onliest problem is that gets the info from the disk itself -- sector 0 to
be
> >exact -- & it uses interrupts to do it. INTR $25/26 worked perfectly for
> >12/16-bit FATs (still does) but with the new 32-bit FAT using INTR $21
sub
> >$7305/6 which I have not been able to get working (I've left numerous
> >messages) about this over the last year or so) I can not get this info. I
> >would really like to find out how to do this (got to BIG programs just
> >waiting on this).
> >
> >If you want the routine, let me know & I'll make a little program showing
> >it.
> >
> >                             -->Bev<--
> >
> >
> >List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net>
wrote:
> >At 04:28 PM 27/03/00 -0800, you wrote:
> >>List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>> Think I have it somewhere, just haven't checked
> >>> lately.  Been
> >>> concentrating on HDs, etc.
> >>
> >>Ahhm..  It's HD stuff Tom.
> >>Reads the HD serial #.
> >>Have you culled your serial # today ?
> >>
> >
> >What I have gets name & serial # of any disk.  I can rename, but
> >not change the serial #.  Yet.
> >TomR.
> >
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
HI Tom,
I recieved an email from him this morning. He is a little upset.
Dale

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From: "Tom Record" <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net>
To: <gfabasic@gfa.net>
Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2000 4:04 PM
Subject: Re: [gfabasic] SHARING


> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Dale
> His e-mail adrs is dead.  No way for me to see if he's OK after the
tornado
> this evening.  You, Loock & Russell are probably the only ones who will
> hear from him now.  I tried sending him the font renamer he asked me for.
> <G>
> TomR.
>
>
>
> At 08:10 AM 29/03/00 -0800, you wrote:
> >List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> >Hi David,
> >I don't quite understand what has happened that you feel that you do not
> >want to share with the rest of us anymore.  I am sure that I have always
> >given you credit for your code and always will. I cannot help but feel
that
> >perhaps you are reading things into some of the mesages that are not
there.
> >Your programming style can teach all of us new ways to do things and that
is
> >invaluable.  David, let me ask you a question.  If you don't share any of
> >your code who will give you any credit for it?  You have done some very
nice
> >programs. Please do not stop!  Lets us keep on saying , David Wicker
wrote
> >that!
> >
> >Dale.
> >Dale Bryant
> >http://gfawhelp.com
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> >adbryant@msn.com
> >adbryant@gfa.net
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Isn't that the truth!

Dale Bryant
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Subject: [gfabasic] dream come true!


> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> There was once a young man who, in his youth, professed his
> desire become a great writer.
>
> When asked to define "great" he said, "I want to write
> stuff that the whole world will read, stuff that people
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Subject: Re: [gfabasic] Serial #
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 08:45:20 -0800
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Hi Bev,
Does the diskinfo work for you. I get an error, something about no such
unut?
Dale

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Bev Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com>
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Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2000 8:30 PM
Subject: Re: [gfabasic] Serial #


> Here it be; enjoy!  <g>
>
>                              -->Bev<--
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tom Record" <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net>
> To: <gfabasic@gfa.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2000 6:52 AM
> Subject: re: [gfabasic] Serial #
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> > List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net>
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> > Probably should make it available, Boss.  Thanks.
> > <G>
> > TomR.
> >
> >
> > At 06:27 AM 29/03/00 -0500, you wrote:
> > >List Member "Bev Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
> > >Actually, I do have a 'routine' to get the serial number of a
disk/drive;
> > >onliest problem is that gets the info from the disk itself -- sector 0
to
> be
> > >exact -- & it uses interrupts to do it. INTR $25/26 worked perfectly
for
> > >12/16-bit FATs (still does) but with the new 32-bit FAT using INTR $21
> sub
> > >$7305/6 which I have not been able to get working (I've left numerous
> > >messages) about this over the last year or so) I can not get this info.
I
> > >would really like to find out how to do this (got to BIG programs just
> > >waiting on this).
> > >
> > >If you want the routine, let me know & I'll make a little program
showing
> > >it.
> > >
> > >                             -->Bev<--
> > >
> > >
> > >List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net>
> wrote:
> > >At 04:28 PM 27/03/00 -0800, you wrote:
> > >>List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >>> Think I have it somewhere, just haven't checked
> > >>> lately.  Been
> > >>> concentrating on HDs, etc.
> > >>
> > >>Ahhm..  It's HD stuff Tom.
> > >>Reads the HD serial #.
> > >>Have you culled your serial # today ?
> > >>
> > >
> > >What I have gets name & serial # of any disk.  I can rename, but
> > >not change the serial #.  Yet.
> > >TomR.
> > >
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
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Hello.

Yah its ol' screwball David.  :)

Tom, thanks for the concern, I'm fine but downtown
Fort Worth is basically gone.  :/  We can't get
near it for a week and massive cleanup underway.

The good news Tom is I release all my sourcecode
freely no credit needed, nothing, there's all info
in the 2 letters.

Okay, well, I was gonna write a letter about me
going back to Qbasic and dropping GFA completely,
but Dad said he would pay for GFA if I will stick with
it.

His words GFA is an "untapped resource" and wants me
to write games in it if nothing else.  I don't have to
or need to sell the games but he does want me to post
my games in all the QBasic areas so I can introduce
my friends to it and have them join me..

But Dad said write a good game first, show them how
easy it is, and give out the source so they have
their "example" to learn by.

Don't go backwards but forwards right ??

So two letters, the one I did, then I called Dad,
and what is actually going to happen.

Nice music too kinna like all the major changes
going on around in my head..

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member "Roland Walter" <roland@rowalt.de> wrote:

> List Member "Roland Walter" <roland@rowalt.de> wrote:
> In attachement You will find a very small DLL
> (1024 bytes) which You can use to fill it with
> resources (icons, bitmaps, dialogs etc.).
Sometimes I hate my mail program. - The attachement
was lost...
I try it again with this mail.

Bye, Roland




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Subject: [gfabasic] Keep examples free!!!
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List Member "Roland Walter" <roland@rowalt.de> wrote:
Hallo to all,
Who did say we should not make example listings
free for everybody?
O.K., I wrote a lot of free example listings
and might be they are not the most bad...
This could give me some authority for the following:

1.) I will say it very hard and directly:
    My listings may not be used/copied in closed
    News groups / closed mailing lists / restricted
    web pages and so on.
    If I get information about use of my listings
    in such areas You will get a lot of trouble by me.
    My listings are for free use only and "free"
    means they must be free available for everybody.

2.) Also if I see that a restricted area will be
    established I will request GFA to take the
    area founder away from the GFA mailing lists.
    I have very good contacts to GFA and if I please
    them to do it you are for future left alone in the dark.

Is this dictatorship?
Yes it is.
And I am feeling well by it.

On the other hand you will have much more
profit from free available listings because
there are all in all more information available
which can help you.
Or do You really believe never to need the
help of other people?????
Do You think there is one who could be a direct
competitor to you? - Then simply do not publish
the relevant parts of Your code.

Also it's a question of a good style to mention
the name of a programmer who made an essential
part of a code. You must not mention everybody
who did write the character "e" before you.
But if the used code part IS essential you
SHOULD do it. That's all.

All in all: Let's help together. The life will
            become more easy...

Bye,
Roland Walter
roland@rowalt.de
www.rowalt.de/gfabasic/




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List Member "Lou Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
Dave :
All this because of a very bad storm !!!!!!Welcome back Dave glad th hear
everything is okay Just hope noone was seriouly hurt there keep up the good
work !!!!                          .>>>>> Lou



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> Hello.
>
> Yah its ol' screwball David.  :)
>
> Tom, thanks for the concern, I'm fine but downtown
> Fort Worth is basically gone.  :/  We can't get
> near it for a week and massive cleanup underway.
>
> The good news Tom is I release all my sourcecode
> freely no credit needed, nothing, there's all info
> in the 2 letters.
>
> Okay, well, I was gonna write a letter about me
> going back to Qbasic and dropping GFA completely,
> but Dad said he would pay for GFA if I will stick with
> it.
>
> His words GFA is an "untapped resource" and wants me
> to write games in it if nothing else.  I don't have to
> or need to sell the games but he does want me to post
> my games in all the QBasic areas so I can introduce
> my friends to it and have them join me..
>
> But Dad said write a good game first, show them how
> easy it is, and give out the source so they have
> their "example" to learn by.
>
> Don't go backwards but forwards right ??
>
> So two letters, the one I did, then I called Dad,
> and what is actually going to happen.
>
> Nice music too kinna like all the major changes
> going on around in my head..
>
> Sincerely,
> David W.
>
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
List Member "Lou Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
Dave :
All this because of a very bad storm !!!!!!Welcome
back Dave glad th 
hear
everything is okay Just hope noone was seriouly hurt
there keep up the 
good
work !!!!                          .>>>>> Lou

8< ----------------------S-N-I-P------------------ >8

Thanks for the encouraging words Lou !  :)
Well, it's going to be a much more an uphill
climb for me to try and forge new territory in GFA.

Fort Worth was hit so hard by the tornado it was
declared (legal stuff) "National Disaster Area" so
we're going to get government funding to repair it
all.

Roland, I thought I was the only one that had the
kind of protective mentality to protect stuff.

It's nice to know I'm not the only one in the world,
but I guess I have to ask, if I protect anything in
any way, then it can be unprotected right ?

Some people live only to undo protection schemes done
by others, even if the program is shareware only,
or as far as limited day crippleware, or freeware, if
there is something in it that prevents others from
really having a good chance to look at it, someone
somewhere is going to see that as a slap in their
face with the riding glove and immediately get
underway to deprotect your system, then how do you
feel ?

But if you give it away freely without reserve
including source code, eventually, somebody is
going to see it, really understand it, write back
some thanks, write some NEW stuff with it, send it
back, and before long you have a new friend !

My mission, should I choose to accept it commander,
:) is to finish writing Fruity Jam, release the
source code to it, advertise it to high heaven to
all the game programming sites throughout the world
because some of them are going to be just as hungry
and just as needful for wanting an outstanding
programming language as this.  It will be slow and
painful at first as change always is, but it can
be done, and the more game programmers that join,
the more then will in the future.

I won't feel like such a minority anymore..

Roland, please don't fall into the trap I have for
most of my life.  I know I say this now and in the
future that old devil GREED may hit me again at
which point I need to reflect =WHY= I stayed in
GFA, not just because Dad wants me to, but there
is an "Untapped Resource" in GFA where good
American Programmers, especially creative ones,
are wanted and desired.  And part of growth is
letting something go.  I ranted and raved about how
poor and cheap the games were for QBasic before I
realized, not think about this for a second Roland,
the reason their code was cheap is because they were
uneducated.  The only sourcecode =THEY= ever saw was
the really poor stuff.  The reason the games were
so poor was not THEIR fault, it was MINE, for being
so jealous and not sharing what every good game
programmer should already know, but they didn't,
because NO-ONE would tell them.  I wasn't sharing
what was essential so they had nothing good to
learn from.

Now which is worse, them or me ?

Only by sharing the deepest, best, and most powerful
dark programming secrets of all time did they
suddenly mature.  And watch out !  What goes around
comes around and someone may in the future have the
solution for something you needed but thought no-one
would ever release because it was too "valuable"  :)

Please Consider.

Well, see my Dr. tomorrow, Dad is taking me cause
all public transportation is out until further
notice.  Yah, it was 90 the other day, now its
50 degrees outside !  Texas is the weirdest mixed
up bunch of weather you ever saw.  ^o^

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Amen, Amen and Amen.
Great Roland!
Dale

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Subject: [gfabasic] Keep examples free!!!


> List Member "Roland Walter" <roland@rowalt.de> wrote:
> Hallo to all,
> Who did say we should not make example listings
> free for everybody?
> O.K., I wrote a lot of free example listings
> and might be they are not the most bad...
> This could give me some authority for the following:
>
> 1.) I will say it very hard and directly:
>     My listings may not be used/copied in closed
>     News groups / closed mailing lists / restricted
>     web pages and so on.
>     If I get information about use of my listings
>     in such areas You will get a lot of trouble by me.
>     My listings are for free use only and "free"
>     means they must be free available for everybody.
>
> 2.) Also if I see that a restricted area will be
>     established I will request GFA to take the
>     area founder away from the GFA mailing lists.
>     I have very good contacts to GFA and if I please
>     them to do it you are for future left alone in the dark.
>
> Is this dictatorship?
> Yes it is.
> And I am feeling well by it.
>
> On the other hand you will have much more
> profit from free available listings because
> there are all in all more information available
> which can help you.
> Or do You really believe never to need the
> help of other people?????
> Do You think there is one who could be a direct
> competitor to you? - Then simply do not publish
> the relevant parts of Your code.
>
> Also it's a question of a good style to mention
> the name of a programmer who made an essential
> part of a code. You must not mention everybody
> who did write the character "e" before you.
> But if the used code part IS essential you
> SHOULD do it. That's all.
>
> All in all: Let's help together. The life will
>             become more easy...
>
> Bye,
> Roland Walter
> roland@rowalt.de
> www.rowalt.de/gfabasic/
>
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List Member "Lou Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
Hi Dale:

> no such unit
Naturally! you tried it on a 32-bit FAT drive; win95/98  uses the 32-bit FAT
for any drive over about half a meg; this method only works for 16-bit FAT
(under half a meg) & 12-bit FAT (disks). Sorry; I thought I made that very
clear.

                         -->Bev<--


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> List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> Hi Bev,
> Does the diskinfo work for you. I get an error, something about no such
> unut?
> Dale
>
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bev Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com>
> To: <gfabasic@gfa.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2000 8:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [gfabasic] Serial #
>
>
> > Here it be; enjoy!  <g>
> >
> >                              -->Bev<--
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Tom Record" <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net>
> > To: <gfabasic@gfa.net>
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2000 6:52 AM
> > Subject: re: [gfabasic] Serial #
> >
> >
> > > List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net>
> wrote:
> > > Probably should make it available, Boss.  Thanks.
> > > <G>
> > > TomR.
> > >
> > >
> > > At 06:27 AM 29/03/00 -0500, you wrote:
> > > >List Member "Bev Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
> > > >Actually, I do have a 'routine' to get the serial number of a
> disk/drive;
> > > >onliest problem is that gets the info from the disk itself -- sector
0
> to
> > be
> > > >exact -- & it uses interrupts to do it. INTR $25/26 worked perfectly
> for
> > > >12/16-bit FATs (still does) but with the new 32-bit FAT using INTR
$21
> > sub
> > > >$7305/6 which I have not been able to get working (I've left numerous
> > > >messages) about this over the last year or so) I can not get this
info.
> I
> > > >would really like to find out how to do this (got to BIG programs
just
> > > >waiting on this).
> > > >
> > > >If you want the routine, let me know & I'll make a little program
> showing
> > > >it.
> > > >
> > > >                             -->Bev<--
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net>
> > wrote:
> > > >At 04:28 PM 27/03/00 -0800, you wrote:
> > > >>List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > >>> Think I have it somewhere, just haven't checked
> > > >>> lately.  Been
> > > >>> concentrating on HDs, etc.
> > > >>
> > > >>Ahhm..  It's HD stuff Tom.
> > > >>Reads the HD serial #.
> > > >>Have you culled your serial # today ?
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >What I have gets name & serial # of any disk.  I can rename, but
> > > >not change the serial #.  Yet.
> > > >TomR.
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
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Am I the only one getting two copies of every message
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mailing
list?
8< ----------------------S-N-I-P------------------- >8

Greets Anthony:

Well, we've been going back and forth pretty
heavily about a lot of topics.  It is possible
it may seem that way.  :)

Sincerely,
David W.

Greets Anthony:

Well, we've been going back and forth pretty
heavily about a lot of topics.  It is possible
it may seem that way.  :)

Sincerely,
David W.

Greets Anth... Ahhh, you get the idea !

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List Member Anthony Watson <awatson@pacifier.com> wrote:
David,

First, welcome back!

> Well, we've been going back and forth pretty
> heavily about a lot of topics.  It is possible
> it may seem that way.  :)

That was my first thought, but I just received two copies of the message I
originally sent out. So, it isn't just a quoting problem. Weird...

The list so nice, they send it to me twice... Ha. Ha.

Take care,

Anthony


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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
At 04:26 PM 30/03/00 -0500, you wrote:
>List Member "Lou Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
>Hi Dale:
>
>> no such unit
>Naturally! you tried it on a 32-bit FAT drive; win95/98  uses the 32-bit FAT
>for any drive over about half a meg; this method only works for 16-bit FAT
>(under half a meg) & 12-bit FAT (disks). Sorry; I thought I made that very
>clear.
>
>                         -->Bev<--
>

A new note, perhaps of interest, perhaps not.

This computer runs W95a & has a replacement HD.
The original was 1GB.  It got socked by infection,
so replaced it w/ 5.1Gb w/ 3 partitions.

Bev's routine returns some funny but informative info!!

C: is identified as drive #2, part 01.  The original
HD driver is built in, so didn't try to get rid of it.
I can switch HDs & it automatically accepts because I
loaded software to recognize >2.5 Gb.

I can switch back & forth, each time the proper driver
is loaded.

<G>
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Very well said, Roland.
I *think* we've resolved that issue now.
I HOPE!
<G>
TomR.


At 07:50 PM 30/03/00 +0200, you wrote:
>List Member "Roland Walter" <roland@rowalt.de> wrote:
>Hallo to all,
>Who did say we should not make example listings
>free for everybody?
>O.K., I wrote a lot of free example listings
>and might be they are not the most bad...
>This could give me some authority for the following:
>
>1.) I will say it very hard and directly:
>    My listings may not be used/copied in closed
>    News groups / closed mailing lists / restricted
>    web pages and so on.
>    If I get information about use of my listings
>    in such areas You will get a lot of trouble by me.
>    My listings are for free use only and "free"
>    means they must be free available for everybody.
>
>2.) Also if I see that a restricted area will be
>    established I will request GFA to take the
>    area founder away from the GFA mailing lists.
>    I have very good contacts to GFA and if I please
>    them to do it you are for future left alone in the dark.
>
>Is this dictatorship?
>Yes it is.
>And I am feeling well by it.
>
>On the other hand you will have much more
>profit from free available listings because
>there are all in all more information available
>which can help you.
>Or do You really believe never to need the
>help of other people?????
>Do You think there is one who could be a direct
>competitor to you? - Then simply do not publish
>the relevant parts of Your code.
>
>Also it's a question of a good style to mention
>the name of a programmer who made an essential
>part of a code. You must not mention everybody
>who did write the character "e" before you.
>But if the used code part IS essential you
>SHOULD do it. That's all.
>
>All in all: Let's help together. The life will
>            become more easy...
>
>Bye,
>Roland Walter
>roland@rowalt.de
>www.rowalt.de/gfabasic/
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
David,
First, welcome back!

That was my first thought, but I just received two
copies of the 
message I
originally sent out. So, it isn't just a quoting
problem. Weird...

* I have turned off my quoting because it forces
my messages to not be in ASCII.  Now they're in
ASCII so I can clip out anything interest to read
later.

The list so nice, they send it to me twice... Ha. Ha.

Take care,

Anthony

* Well Anthony, my mission should I choose to accept
it is to finish LowBlur.  Put it out, then use LowBlur
for Cherry Miya's Fruity Jam.  Upload source on that
too, and then scout all the game areas with .EXE and
.LST for them to look at so we can round up some
programmers who should really know about this
powerful language.

Well, Rose is coming tomorrow and my room isn't
getting any cleaner sitting here answer Email sooo
let me get to it.

Sincerely,
David W.

Dale, please update Oddlong with modern Cookie Cutter.
if Serial Culler is worth it, please upload it too.
If not that's fine, it was a quick hack once I finally
got that devil SHELL working properly.

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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
HI Bev,
You probably made it clear. I just get carried away when I see anything by
Bev Brown.(G)

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> List Member "Lou Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
> Hi Dale:
>
> > no such unit
> Naturally! you tried it on a 32-bit FAT drive; win95/98  uses the 32-bit
FAT
> for any drive over about half a meg; this method only works for 16-bit FAT
> (under half a meg) & 12-bit FAT (disks). Sorry; I thought I made that very
> clear.
>
>                          -->Bev<--
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com>
> To: <gfabasic@gfa.net>
> Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2000 11:45 AM
> Subject: Re: [gfabasic] Serial #
>
>
> > List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> > Hi Bev,
> > Does the diskinfo work for you. I get an error, something about no such
> > unut?
> > Dale
> >
> > Dale Bryant
> > http://gfawhelp.com
> > http://gfawhelp.gfa.net
> > adbryant@msn.com
> > adbryant@gfa.net
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Bev Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com>
> > To: <gfabasic@gfa.net>
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2000 8:30 PM
> > Subject: Re: [gfabasic] Serial #
> >
> >
> > > Here it be; enjoy!  <g>
> > >
> > >                              -->Bev<--
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Tom Record" <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net>
> > > To: <gfabasic@gfa.net>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2000 6:52 AM
> > > Subject: re: [gfabasic] Serial #
> > >
> > >
> > > > List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net>
> > wrote:
> > > > Probably should make it available, Boss.  Thanks.
> > > > <G>
> > > > TomR.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > At 06:27 AM 29/03/00 -0500, you wrote:
> > > > >List Member "Bev Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
> > > > >Actually, I do have a 'routine' to get the serial number of a
> > disk/drive;
> > > > >onliest problem is that gets the info from the disk itself --
sector
> 0
> > to
> > > be
> > > > >exact -- & it uses interrupts to do it. INTR $25/26 worked
perfectly
> > for
> > > > >12/16-bit FATs (still does) but with the new 32-bit FAT using INTR
> $21
> > > sub
> > > > >$7305/6 which I have not been able to get working (I've left
numerous
> > > > >messages) about this over the last year or so) I can not get this
> info.
> > I
> > > > >would really like to find out how to do this (got to BIG programs
> just
> > > > >waiting on this).
> > > > >
> > > > >If you want the routine, let me know & I'll make a little program
> > showing
> > > > >it.
> > > > >
> > > > >                             -->Bev<--
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >At 04:28 PM 27/03/00 -0800, you wrote:
> > > > >>List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > >>> Think I have it somewhere, just haven't checked
> > > > >>> lately.  Been
> > > > >>> concentrating on HDs, etc.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>Ahhm..  It's HD stuff Tom.
> > > > >>Reads the HD serial #.
> > > > >>Have you culled your serial # today ?
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > >What I have gets name & serial # of any disk.  I can rename, but
> > > > >not change the serial #.  Yet.
> > > > >TomR.
> > > > >
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
I only get one copy.

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> List Member Anthony Watson <awatson@pacifier.com> wrote:
> Am I the only one getting two copies of every message on the GFA mailing
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Hi,
I=B4m not understanding you fully due to my very poor English ...
Can you be more "understandable"?
[]s
Gustavo

Roland Walter wrote:

> List Member "Roland Walter" <roland@rowalt.de> wrote:
> Hallo to all,
> Who did say we should not make example listings
> free for everybody?
> O.K., I wrote a lot of free example listings
> and might be they are not the most bad...
> This could give me some authority for the following:
>
> 1.) I will say it very hard and directly:
>     My listings may not be used/copied in closed
>     News groups / closed mailing lists / restricted
>     web pages and so on.
>     If I get information about use of my listings
>     in such areas You will get a lot of trouble by me.
>     My listings are for free use only and "free"
>     means they must be free available for everybody.
>
> 2.) Also if I see that a restricted area will be
>     established I will request GFA to take the
>     area founder away from the GFA mailing lists.
>     I have very good contacts to GFA and if I please
>     them to do it you are for future left alone in the dark.
>
> Is this dictatorship?
> Yes it is.
> And I am feeling well by it.
>
> On the other hand you will have much more
> profit from free available listings because
> there are all in all more information available
> which can help you.
> Or do You really believe never to need the
> help of other people?????
> Do You think there is one who could be a direct
> competitor to you? - Then simply do not publish
> the relevant parts of Your code.
>
> Also it's a question of a good style to mention
> the name of a programmer who made an essential
> part of a code. You must not mention everybody
> who did write the character "e" before you.
> But if the used code part IS essential you
> SHOULD do it. That's all.
>
> All in all: Let's help together. The life will
>             become more easy...
>
> Bye,
> Roland Walter
> roland@rowalt.de
> www.rowalt.de/gfabasic/
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
I think they're being generous <G>.
My brother is getting them & he *IS NOT* on the list <G>.
TomR.


At 02:10 PM 30/03/00 -0800, you wrote:
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
>List Member "Lou Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
>Dave :
>All this because of a very bad storm !!!!!!Welcome
>back Dave glad th 
>hear
>everything is okay Just hope noone was seriouly hurt
>there keep up the 
>good
>work !!!!                          .>>>>> Lou

Hey Lou !  I'm glad you like my work, thanks !  :)
There is still a lot to explore in GFA.
I'm going to convert over my Warp Speed which
really requires a faster processor than QBasic
anyways.  Be looking for it, I think you'll like it !

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hello:

A point to consider for all freeware, shareware,
crippleware, and demoware programmers.

Now, no-one can demand anything on anything, if you
submit source code, it could well be ripped to high
heaven.  You take that risk by posting it, but most
of the time it will just be appreciated by others and
you'll get a good nice pat on the back for a job well
done.  It is good that GFA has these kind of people
that are considerate and charitable.  Ultimately by
submitting source code you benefit the entire group.
This will allways be the case.

I can see myself tearing my hair out later by calling
everything I have done so far worthless because in
truth, it's not worthless, it's useful to most
every one.

Back in the beginning, I made a suggestion, and it
should never be more than JUST a suggestion.

I can't enforce it.
I can't demand it.
It is my trust to GFA and its programmers only.
It should be a creed to end all arguments.

' As always if you borrow anything from anyone's
source code for
' either your FREEWARE or SHAREWARE projects, please
give credit
' to the original author !  Thanks !

Perhaps if all of us could adopt this, then there
would be less possessiveness about who stole what,
why,
and where...

I'm just trying to make sense out of my own
feelings...

I certainly do have a lot do talk to my Dr. to-morrow
about.  :)

Tom, please keep me in line if I ever get more stingy
than this simple suggestion !  ^o^

Well, it's late and to-morrow is just about here...

LowBlur is coming along well, and I feel a =LOT=
better in my head about sharing it with =JUST= that
suggestion, and nothing more.

Not to go on a wild tangent, when we were put here
on Earth, we were not "forced" to do anything.
God, our creator, however you want to word it, has
shown absolute and complete compassion for us by
granting us the =FREEDOM= to do as we damn well
please.  This is not a show of weakness but of
compassion for one's fellow man.

Life should all ways be so simple.  (Gentle Smile)

Please Consider.

Sincerely,
David W.


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Subject: [gfabasic] Why can I NOT move this tiny window?
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Ok, fellers, here's another stumper from me.

Possible object example... cut out a tiny girl to be pasted
into somebody's hand?  She'd be very small & damned hard to
select without something like this routine!

Using something of this nature, I can get selection down to a
real science.  As written, pixels are enlarged 5 time in the
tiny window, making it easy to work an irregular selection on
small areas in an image.  One problem exists, tho... I cannot
move the tiny window to get it out of the way.  Making it just
large enough to cover the main window caption & menubar is to
open a user to eye strain!  A larger window, say, 75x75, would
be emmensly better *IF* one could left-click within it & drag
it to somewhere outside of the working area.  This one is
80x120 w/ the captionbar, but it can't be dragged anywhere, 
even if I REM the SETCAPTURE!

The captionbar wouldn't be absolutely necessary as a tattletale
since *that* can be put into the main window captionbar or into
a statusbar at the bottom of it.  I tried putting a textedit in
a toolber with no success.  Can't seem to put STATIC text there,
either.

The whole thing would be menu or button driven from the main window.
Buttons being rect & irreg selection, lupe or magnification glass,
cut, copy or paste.  During selection, the left button would get
the desired pixel, otherwise, it would work menus & buttons on a 
toolbar.  It cannot therefore be captured within the lupe window.

Hmmmm... a menuitem or button that, when clicked, would move the
tiny window to where the mouse is clicked the next time?
<G>
TomR.

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/* lupe2tr.lst  -  display a square around the mouse, enlarged.
/* Original author unidentified, modified by TomR., 30 Mar 2000.
/* Lines with /* * were modified or added to select _A_ _PIXEL_.
/* Numbers in line 19 determine magnification.
/* Why can I NOT move this tiny window?

OPENW #1,_X / 2,5,80,120,16  /* *
SETCAPTURE 1
DEFMOUSE 0

DO
  LINE 0,0,_X,_Y  /* * 1/2 of crosshair indicating mouse tip
  LINE 0,_Y,_X,0  /* * 2/2 of crosshair indicating mouse tip
  x& = MOUSESX
  y& = MOUSESY
  TITLEW #1, STR$(x&) + ",  " + STR$(y&)  /* * rat's tattletale
  a& = GetDC(0)
  IF a&
    SETDC a&
    GET x& - 5,y& - 5,x& + 5,y& + 5,lh&  /* * magnification
    ~ReleaseDC(0,a&)
    SETDC _DC(1)
    STRETCH 0,0,lh&,_X,_Y,SRCCOPY
    FREEBMP lh&
  ENDIF
LOOP UNTIL MOUSEK & 2 /* * Don't want left button to close window!
RELEASECAPTURE
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List Member MISER@LCIA.COM (Micromiser, Inc) wrote:
Thanks Russel!

That little gem seems to work and surely will sure come in handy. Good
programming example too...

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Steve Thornton

>I've attached a program to get the serial number of the drive without using
>interrupts, might be interesting to you. It only works under 32-bit Windows,
>although I think a Win32s version could be done if that is important.
>
>HTH,
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List Member Pat Bullman <pbullman@norex.com.au> wrote:
Tom,

This might help.  The window is moved with the arrow keys.  No range
checking is done here but you might want to build it in.

Pat
>-------------------- cut here --------------------------

wx& = _X / 2
wy& = 5
OPENW #1, wx&, wy&, 80, 120, 16  /* *
SETCAPTURE 1
DEFMOUSE 0
DO
  PEEKEVENT

  LINE 0,0,_X,_Y  /* * 1/2 of crosshair indicating mouse tip
  LINE 0,_Y,_X,0  /* * 2/2 of crosshair indicating mouse tip
  SELECT _Mess
  CASE WM_KEYDOWN
    SELECT _wParam
    CASE VK_UP
      wy& --
    CASE VK_DOWN
      wy& ++
    CASE VK_LEFT
      wx& --
    CASE VK_RIGHT
      wx& ++
    ENDSELECT
    MOVEW #1, wx&, wy&
  CASE WM_MOUSEMOVE
    x& = MOUSESX
    y& = MOUSESY
    TITLEW #1, STR$(x&) + ",  " + STR$(y&)  /* * rat's tattletale
    a& = GetDC(0)
    IF a&
      SETDC a&
      GET x& - 5,y& - 5,x& + 5,y& + 5,lh&  /* * magnification
      ~ReleaseDC(0,a&)
      SETDC _DC(1)
      STRETCH 0,0,lh&,_X,_Y,SRCCOPY
      FREEBMP lh&
    ENDIF
  ENDSELECT
LOOP UNTIL MOUSEK & 2 /* * Don't want left button to close window!
RELEASECAPTURE
CLOSEW #1




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List Member "Bev Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
For those of you that don't know; 'Lou Brown' is my wife; I'm 'Bev'. Lou has
her own computer & until recently we did most of the email stuff from hers;
we are now networked & we've found out how to get the email to both
computers. Now, if we could find a program (software) that would let us both
be online at the same time (& was simply to use <g>), we'd be in heaven. Oh,
well!!!

btw, I would really appreciate someone, anyone, showing me how to get the
info from a disk (at the sector level) on all drives & their different FATs;
I know the new INTR $21 sub $7305/6 will do it; I just don't know how (I
keep getting only the info from the drive I'm running from???)

                             -->Bev<--

----- Original Message -----
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To: <gfabasic@gfa.net>
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Subject: Re: [gfabasic] Serial #


> List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >List Member "Lou Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
> >Dave :
> >All this because of a very bad storm !!!!!!Welcome
> >back Dave glad th
> >hear
> >everything is okay Just hope noone was seriouly hurt
> >there keep up the
> >good
> >work !!!!                          .>>>>> Lou
>
> Hey Lou !  I'm glad you like my work, thanks !  :)
> There is still a lot to explore in GFA.
> I'm going to convert over my Warp Speed which
> really requires a faster processor than QBasic
> anyways.  Be looking for it, I think you'll like it !
>
> Sincerely,
> David W.
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
David
The eraser isn't mine... it's Dick Barlik's.
I *did* pass it on to you, but the routine it was in was his.
He's really good about cutting source down to size, meaning that
now we have two of you that can do that!  Mine is all still big
bucket by nature.
<G>
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
31/03/2000 04:50:19 AM   rect selection   3103xx1-

Once again, I've been bested!  As usual, it's for the much better!  I 
rack my brain for hours, getting an idea to work... then along comes 
DickB. & grinds out a much better version (probably just takes him a 
few minutes <G>).

Can it? NOT on your life!!!  It's another, much better selection!

Use/abuse freely.  If you add to it or improve it, please let us know.

The mouse is tracked at all times in the caption.

Leftmouse-down at any corner, mouse-up in the apposing diagonal 
corner.  The box will draw & the mouse position & box dimensions 
appear in the caption.

Once again, it can easily be menu/button driven for cut/copy/paste or
be picked up as a BRUSH (see DavidW.'s examples in oddlong/cookie).

Ha!! I've been curious about HOW on this since I first got into trying 
to program!  Gunnar, Dick & David are teaching me great things!

Thanks, Guys!!!

Rectangular selection apparatus (line beginning "Box" on the left hand
margine is wrapped for Eudora... is the end of the line above it) :

From: Barlik@aol.com
Tom,
Here is another version of your posted file.  If you like it, use it, 
post-it, or can-it.

FULLW #1
' D. Barlik
DEFMOUSE 3
WHILE MOUSEK<>2
  COLOR 0
  white=GETNEAREST(255,255,255)
  MOUSE x,y,z
  IF x<>xx OR y<>yy
    TITLEW #1,b$+a$
  ENDIF
  xx=x,yy=y,b$="Starting X="+STR$(x)+"   Y="+STR$(y)+"   ",x1=x,y1=y
  x2=x,y2=y
  IF z=1
    a$=""
  ENDIF
  WHILE  z=1
    x1=x, y1=y, a$="",a$=a$+"Start = "+"X "+ STR$(x)+" , "+"Y "+STR$(y)
    x3=x2,y3=y2
    MOUSE x2,y2,z
    a$="         Ending = "+"X "+ STR$(x2)+" , "+"Y "+STR$(y2)+"    
Box = "+STR$(ABS(x1-x2))+" x "+STR$(ABS(y1-y2))+"           "
    IF x2<>x3 OR y2<>y3
      TITLEW #1,b$+a$
      COLOR 0
      LINE x1,y1,x2,y1
      LINE x1,y1,x1,y2
      IF x1<x2 AND x3>x2
        COLOR white
        LINE x2,y1,x3,y1
      ENDIF
      IF x1>x2 AND x3<x2
        COLOR white
        LINE x2,y1,x3,y1
      ENDIF
      IF y1<y2 AND y3>y2
        COLOR white
        LINE x1,y2,x1,y3
      ENDIF
      IF y1>y2 AND y3<y2
        COLOR white
        LINE x1,y2,x1,y3
      ENDIF
    ENDIF
    f=2
  WEND
  IF f=2
    COLOR 0
    BOX x1,y1,x2,y2
    f=0
  ENDIF
WEND
CLOSEW #1


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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Pat
Am on my knees, kissing the ground 'cause I can't reach your feet!
Works like a champ!  Move value can be two-fold... as is, or, say
X10 if <Shift"+<arrow key> is used.  Thanks a zillion!
<G>
TomR.


At 07:15 PM 31/03/00 +1000, you wrote:
>List Member Pat Bullman <pbullman@norex.com.au> wrote:
>Tom,
>
>This might help.  The window is moved with the arrow keys.  No range
>checking is done here but you might want to build it in.
>
>Pat
>>-------------------- cut here --------------------------
>
>wx& = _X / 2
>wy& = 5
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>      wx& --
>    CASE VK_RIGHT
>      wx& ++
>    ENDSELECT
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>    x& = MOUSESX
>    y& = MOUSESY
>    TITLEW #1, STR$(x&) + ",  " + STR$(y&)  /* * rat's tattletale
>    a& = GetDC(0)
>    IF a&
>      SETDC a&
>      GET x& - 5,y& - 5,x& + 5,y& + 5,lh&  /* * magnification
>      ~ReleaseDC(0,a&)
>      SETDC _DC(1)
>      STRETCH 0,0,lh&,_X,_Y,SRCCOPY
>      FREEBMP lh&
>    ENDIF
>  ENDSELECT
>LOOP UNTIL MOUSEK & 2 /* * Don't want left button to close window!
>RELEASECAPTURE
>CLOSEW #1
>
>
>
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>I know the new INTR $21 sub $7305/6 will do it; I just don't know how (I
>keep getting only the info from the drive I'm running from???)
>
>                             -->Bev<--
>

Bev, I've lost it - please send the routine again & I'll play (BUT...
I don't promise anything because I donno if this thing even has the
required FAT on it.).
<G>
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List Member Barlik@aol.com wrote:
I get them also.

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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
OK Tom, cut the medication in half for a day or two.(G)
Dale Bryant
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> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> I think they're being generous <G>.
> My brother is getting them & he *IS NOT* on the list <G>.
> TomR.
>
>
> At 02:10 PM 30/03/00 -0800, you wrote:
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hey Russel !
I didn't see your Serial # program in here !
Could you please post it again ?
I'm trying to learn good Window stuff to ya know !
Thanks !

I've got your bundle, I just need to pack a bit
more of it up and send it your way.

We hadda real scare with this Tornado thing.
Got by the Dr.'s okay tho.  Are you ever gonna
upload your neat space shooter game ??  :)

*The Shields Have Turned To Cheese*

Sincerely,
David W.

> Thanks Russel!
> 
> That little gem seems to work and surely will sure
> come in handy. Good
> programming example too...
> 
> -----
> Steve Thornton
> 
> >I've attached a program to get the serial number of
> the drive without using
> >interrupts, might be interesting to you. It only
> works under 32-bit Windows,
> >although I think a Win32s version could be done if
> that is important.
> >
> >HTH,
> >Russell Hayward


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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
The MouseKeys solution:

Many TechRepublic members recommended configuring the numeric keypad to
simulate the mouse. 

Here are the steps:

Press <Ctrl>+<Esc> to bring up the Start menu.

Select Settings, then Control Panel, and press <Enter>.

Once in Control Panel, select the Accessibility Options icon (by using 
the tab and arrow keys) and press <Enter>. Note: If you're using 
Windows 98, you may not see the Accessibility Options icon. If so, 
you'll have to install it using Control Panel's Add/Remove Programs 
utility. Click the Windows Setup tab, then activate the check box for 
Accessibility Options and install it.

You'll need to have the Windows 98 CD (unless the needed files are 
already on your drive).

Once in the Accessibility Properties window, use the tab and arrow keys
to move to the Mouse tab.

Activate MouseKeys by pressing <Alt>+<M> and apply the changes by 
pressing <Alt>+<A>.

Turn NumLock on, and you should now be able to move around using your 
numeric keypad.

To move right, left, up, and down, use the 6, 4, 8, and 2 keys on the 
numeric keypad, respectively.

To do a single-click, press the 5 key on the numeric keypad.

To do a double-click, press the plus sign <+> on the numeric keypad.

To right-click, press the minus sign <-> and then press 5.

The 5 key will remain as a right-click until you press the slash </>
on the numeric keypad, which will switch it back to standard clicking.

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
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Greets guys !

Well, looks like you are playing with Fenster
dargestellt's <-- (is that his name?) magnifier.

Well, it seems there really isn't a NEAT FUN
HEY THATS PRETTY GOOD magnifier out there so I spent
ALL day after seeing my Dr. slaving over making a good
one.  This was a lotta work !

I hope you guys appreciate it !  :)

It's best to make it a .EXE and run it when you're
in any program besides GFABasic to see the pixels
enlarged on THAT display screen.

And you two need to SHARE it, not fight over it,
and play nice with each other !  Okay ?  :)

Sincerely,
David W.

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> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Pat
> Am on my knees, kissing the ground 'cause I can't
> reach your feet!
> Works like a champ!  Move value can be two-fold...
> as is, or, say
> X10 if <Shift"+<arrow key> is used.  Thanks a
> zillion!
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Humm..  It's okay, but it leaves scan-line stuff
on screen..  I'm done with this tho.

Checkout RubberRoom for my rendition.

Really Tom ought to use PaintShop Pro as it
eats this kind of graphic stuff for breakfast.  :)

Sincerely,
David W.

--- Lou Brown <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
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> 
>                          -->Bev<--
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> 

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List Member "Lou Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
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here it be -- had to yank the sucker outta my old program so I didn't bother
with the editor just the viewer part...

                         -->Bev<--

----- Original Message -----
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> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> >I know the new INTR $21 sub $7305/6 will do it; I just don't know how (I
> >keep getting only the info from the drive I'm running from???)
> >
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>
> Bev, I've lost it - please send the routine again & I'll play (BUT...
> I don't promise anything because I donno if this thing even has the
> required FAT on it.).
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Tom is this all you are trying to do ?

OPENW #1,_X \ 2 - 200,_Y \ 2 - 150,400,300,0
FONT "new courier",HEIGHT 16 TO F
SETFONT F
DO
  MOUSE X,Y,K
  COLOR 0
  GRAPHMODE R2_COPYPEN,OPAQUE
  PRINT AT(0,0)"X1=";DEC$(H,3);" Y1=";DEC$(V,3);"
X2=";DEC$(X,3);" Y2=";DEC$(Y,3)
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  IF K AND (X <> LX OR Y <> LY)
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    IF Box = 0 THEN H = X,V = Y
    COLOR -1
    DEFLINE 2
    IF Box THEN BOX LH,LV,LX,LY
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    BOX H,V,X,Y
  ELSE IF Box AND K = 0
    DEFLINE 0
    RGBCOLOR RGB(RAND(256),RAND(256),RAND(256))
    PBOX H,V,X,Y
    COLOR 0
    BOX H,V,X,Y
    Box = 0
  ENDIF
UNTIL INKEY$ > ""
FREEFONT F

I wish I knew this sooner Tom !
Man that Rubber Room was a lot more work than this !
:)

Hope This Helps !

Sincerely,
David W.

--- Tom Record
<tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> 31/03/2000 04:50:19 AM   rect selection   3103xx1-
> 
> Once again, I've been bested!  As usual, it's for
> the much better!  I 
> rack my brain for hours, getting an idea to work...
> then along comes 
> DickB. & grinds out a much better version (probably
> just takes him a 
> few minutes <G>).
> 
> Can it? NOT on your life!!!  It's another, much
> better selection!
> 
> Use/abuse freely.  If you add to it or improve it,
> please let us know.
> 
> The mouse is tracked at all times in the caption.
> 
> Leftmouse-down at any corner, mouse-up in the
> apposing diagonal 
> corner.  The box will draw & the mouse position &
> box dimensions 
> appear in the caption.
> 
> Once again, it can easily be menu/button driven for
> cut/copy/paste or
> be picked up as a BRUSH (see DavidW.'s examples in
> oddlong/cookie).
> 
> Ha!! I've been curious about HOW on this since I
> first got into trying 
> to program!  Gunnar, Dick & David are teaching me
> great things!
> 
> Thanks, Guys!!!


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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
--- Tom Record
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> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> David
> The eraser isn't mine... it's Dick Barlik's.
> I *did* pass it on to you, but the routine it was in
> was his.
> He's really good about cutting source down to size,
> meaning that
> now we have two of you that can do that!  Mine is
> all still big
> bucket by nature.
> <G>
> TomR.

Hey !  Glad to help long as I know you're not just
going to run away with my code completely I feel
better.  :)

The [SHIFT] key would be a better eraser.
Interesting, GFA has a good amount of memory,
you could do some 3-D polygon animation with it
if it were done right...

Ah well !  It's just about time for my fav
cartoons !

Now you ARE going to give all contributors
a copy of your outstanding Photograph Collector
when you're done right ??  :)

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Ah !  So there is another one involved in your
expertise !  :)

I was thinking Beverly and Louis.  Looks like I had
it reversed.  Sorry..

You're doing direct reads and writes to sectors ?
Is it just floppies or are you doing hard-drives as
well ??  Sounds like dangerous stuff !

Sincerely,
David W.

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> For those of you that don't know; 'Lou Brown' is my
> wife; I'm 'Bev'. Lou has
> her own computer & until recently we did most of the
> email stuff from hers;
> we are now networked & we've found out how to get
> the email to both
> computers. Now, if we could find a program
> (software) that would let us both
> be online at the same time (& was simply to use
> <g>), we'd be in heaven. Oh,
> well!!!
> 
> btw, I would really appreciate someone, anyone,
> showing me how to get the
> info from a disk (at the sector level) on all drives
> & their different FATs;
> I know the new INTR $21 sub $7305/6 will do it; I
> just don't know how (I
> keep getting only the info from the drive I'm
> running from???)
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi Dale !
Ahhmm..  Question, am =I= on this newsletter mailing
list ?  Or, isn't that here, but if that's here,
then I couldn't be reading it, because to be here,
I'd have to be subscribed right ?  But if I'm already
subscribed I couldn't have subscribed because I didn't
know that you knew I had to be subscribed with the
message you sent about my subscription right when
the only way I could read it was to be initially
subscribed prior to a non-subscription ?

Or is this just a random mailing ?

Oh !  And check out my brand new TOY !
Mr. Magnifier !  :)

Sincerely,
David W.

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Hi David,

> Hey Russel !
> I didn't see your Serial # program in here !
> Could you please post it again ?
> I'm trying to learn good Window stuff to ya know !
> Thanks !

I don't think you'll like it that much, it's more thunking.

> We hadda real scare with this Tornado thing.
> Got by the Dr.'s okay tho.  Are you ever gonna
> upload your neat space shooter game ??  :)

Not unless I totally re-write it, which I may do sometime in the future.
Glad you're alright, tornadoes are not something I've experienced here in
Lincolnshire, the biggest natural disaster we have is line dancing. :-D

> *The Shields Have Turned To Cheese*

Yeah, I nicked that off a Forsaken demo, another reason not to release the
game. :-)

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List Member "Bev Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
Yup! been doing them since the old Atari days & it's only
as dangerous as you make it!

I've tried everyway I can think of & a few from looking at
the way Roland does some of the other new $21 interrupts
& nothing I can come up with gets me the info.

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> List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Ah !  So there is another one involved in your
> expertise !  :)
> 
> I was thinking Beverly and Louis.  Looks like I had
> it reversed.  Sorry..
> 
> You're doing direct reads and writes to sectors ?
> Is it just floppies or are you doing hard-drives as
> well ??  Sounds like dangerous stuff !
> 
> Sincerely,
> David W.
> 
> --- Bev Brown <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
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> > wife; I'm 'Bev'. Lou has
> > her own computer & until recently we did most of the
> > email stuff from hers;
> > we are now networked & we've found out how to get
> > the email to both
> > computers. Now, if we could find a program
> > (software) that would let us both
> > be online at the same time (& was simply to use
> > <g>), we'd be in heaven. Oh,
> > well!!!
> > 
> > btw, I would really appreciate someone, anyone,
> > showing me how to get the
> > info from a disk (at the sector level) on all drives
> > & their different FATs;
> > I know the new INTR $21 sub $7305/6 will do it; I
> > just don't know how (I
> > keep getting only the info from the drive I'm
> > running from???)
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
We'll have to see what the result looks like.  To now,
everything of any use has always been posted!  There's
one hell of a fine editor on Dale's site by Eberhard -
I just can't read "C" all that well.
<G>
TomR.



At 04:30 PM 31/03/00 -0800, you wrote:
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>--- Tom Record
><tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> List Member Tom Record
>> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> David
>> The eraser isn't mine... it's Dick Barlik's.
>> I *did* pass it on to you, but the routine it was in
>> was his.
>> He's really good about cutting source down to size,
>> meaning that
>> now we have two of you that can do that!  Mine is
>> all still big
>> bucket by nature.
>> <G>
>> TomR.
>
>Hey !  Glad to help long as I know you're not just
>going to run away with my code completely I feel
>better.  :)
>
>The [SHIFT] key would be a better eraser.
>Interesting, GFA has a good amount of memory,
>you could do some 3-D polygon animation with it
>if it were done right...
>
>Ah well !  It's just about time for my fav
>cartoons !
>
>Now you ARE going to give all contributors
>a copy of your outstanding Photograph Collector
>when you're done right ??  :)
>
>Sincerely,
>David W.
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
David
very nearly exact!  Back to it & you a bit later...
pills are taking effect & I'm too woozie to make much
sense.
Thanks gadzillions!
<G>
TomR.



At 04:26 PM 31/03/00 -0800, you wrote:
>List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Tom is this all you are trying to do ?
>
>OPENW #1,_X \ 2 - 200,_Y \ 2 - 150,400,300,0
>FONT "new courier",HEIGHT 16 TO F
>SETFONT F
>DO
>  MOUSE X,Y,K
>  COLOR 0
>  GRAPHMODE R2_COPYPEN,OPAQUE
>  PRINT AT(0,0)"X1=";DEC$(H,3);" Y1=";DEC$(V,3);"
>X2=";DEC$(X,3);" Y2=";DEC$(Y,3)
>  PEEKEVENT
>  IF K AND (X <> LX OR Y <> LY)
>    GRAPHMODE R2_XORPEN,TRANSPARENT
>    IF Box = 0 THEN H = X,V = Y
>    COLOR -1
>    DEFLINE 2
>    IF Box THEN BOX LH,LV,LX,LY
>    Box = 1,LH = H,LV = V,LX = X,LY = Y
>    BOX H,V,X,Y
>  ELSE IF Box AND K = 0
>    DEFLINE 0
>    RGBCOLOR RGB(RAND(256),RAND(256),RAND(256))
>    PBOX H,V,X,Y
>    COLOR 0
>    BOX H,V,X,Y
>    Box = 0
>  ENDIF
>UNTIL INKEY$ > ""
>FREEFONT F
>
>I wish I knew this sooner Tom !
>Man that Rubber Room was a lot more work than this !
>:)
>
>Hope This Helps !
>
>Sincerely,
>David W.
>
>--- Tom Record
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>> List Member Tom Record
>> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> 31/03/2000 04:50:19 AM   rect selection   3103xx1-
>> 
>> Once again, I've been bested!  As usual, it's for
>> the much better!  I 
>> rack my brain for hours, getting an idea to work...
>> then along comes 
>> DickB. & grinds out a much better version (probably
>> just takes him a 
>> few minutes <G>).
>> 
>> Can it? NOT on your life!!!  It's another, much
>> better selection!
>> 
>> Use/abuse freely.  If you add to it or improve it,
>> please let us know.
>> 
>> The mouse is tracked at all times in the caption.
>> 
>> Leftmouse-down at any corner, mouse-up in the
>> apposing diagonal 
>> corner.  The box will draw & the mouse position &
>> box dimensions 
>> appear in the caption.
>> 
>> Once again, it can easily be menu/button driven for
>> cut/copy/paste or
>> be picked up as a BRUSH (see DavidW.'s examples in
>> oddlong/cookie).
>> 
>> Ha!! I've been curious about HOW on this since I
>> first got into trying 
>> to program!  Gunnar, Dick & David are teaching me
>> great things!
>> 
>> Thanks, Guys!!!
>
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
That program cost me $70 & screwed me around every time I ran it!
I threw it into the trash months ago - CD & all!  I wouldn't have 
in on my computers ever again!

Now... I'm looking at maybe getting to market w/ one of my own,
so why mess w/ PSP?  For personal work, I have others that are
as good & DON'T mess w/ my association desires.

OK?
<G>
TomR.



At 03:46 PM 31/03/00 -0800, you wrote:
>List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Humm..  It's okay, but it leaves scan-line stuff
>on screen..  I'm done with this tho.
>
>Checkout RubberRoom for my rendition.
>
>Really Tom ought to use PaintShop Pro as it
>eats this kind of graphic stuff for breakfast.  :)
>
>Sincerely,
>David W.
>
>--- Lou Brown <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
>> Here's a coupla 'improvement'!!!  hehehe!    <g>
>> 
>>                          -->Bev<--
>> 
>> 
>
>> ATTACHMENT part 2 application/x-zip-compressed
>name=RUBBRBOX.ZIP
>
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List Member John Kuehn <jkuehn@ex-pressnet.com> wrote:
    Probably, for me, the most disturbing aspect of programming in GFA
16 bit for Windows is that anything, except the mouse, that covers an
area or resizes the screen, inherently erases the current screen
contents..

    Then later when the area is uncovered all what was there is gone....

    Now I realize that I can save the screen contents and restore them
with the MEMDC and BITBLT commands..
    But when the screen contents are dynamic. how is this accomplished
without an excessive amount of processor time?

    I considered writing everything to the rear/invisible screen and
periodically BITBLTing it to the foreground, but, that still seems as if
it would cause an appreciable slowdown

I'm sure there's got to be a windows related function or set of
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List Member "Russell Hayward" <russ@softhome.net> wrote:
Hi John,

>     Probably, for me, the most disturbing aspect of programming in GFA
> 16 bit for Windows is that anything, except the mouse, that covers an
> area or resizes the screen, inherently erases the current screen
> contents..
>
>     Then later when the area is uncovered all what was there is gone....
>
>     Now I realize that I can save the screen contents and restore them
> with the MEMDC and BITBLT commands..
>     But when the screen contents are dynamic. how is this accomplished
> without an excessive amount of processor time?
>
>     I considered writing everything to the rear/invisible screen and
> periodically BITBLTing it to the foreground, but, that still seems as if
> it would cause an appreciable slowdown
>
> I'm sure there's got to be a windows related function or set of
> functions to fix this in gfa

The clearing of windows is one of the most annoying 'features' of GFA16,
here's how you fix it:

OPENW #1
CB WIN(1),WM_PAINT,PaintProc
CB WIN(1),WM_NCPAINT,PaintProc
REPEAT
  SLEEP
UNTIL MENU(1)=4
CLOSEW #1

PROCEDURE PaintProc(Win&,Mess&,wPar&,lPar%)
  ' Do all drawing here, either direct or BITBLT your MEMDC
  KILLEVENT
  RETVAL DefWindowProc(Win&,Mess&,wPar&,lPar%)
RETURN

HTH,
Russell Hayward
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hey Russell !
I'm glad I didn't leave GFA cause I'm waiting for
the biggo day you put out that game and get all
the compliments in this GFAForum !  :)

--- Russell Hayward <russ@softhome.net> wrote:
> 
> Hi David,
> 
> > Hey Russel !
> > I didn't see your Serial # program in here !
> > Could you please post it again ?
> > I'm trying to learn good Window stuff to ya know !
> > Thanks !
> 
> I don't think you'll like it that much, it's more
> thunking.

Acch !  Oookh !  Urrkh !  Brraaak !
Hey, you know what you're saying, you're right !
:)

> 
> > We hadda real scare with this Tornado thing.
> > Got by the Dr.'s okay tho.  Are you ever gonna
> > upload your neat space shooter game ??  :)
> 
> Not unless I totally re-write it, which I may do
> sometime in the future.
> Glad you're alright, tornadoes are not something
> I've experienced here in
> Lincolnshire, the biggest natural disaster we have
> is line dancing. :-D

Yah Downtown is like trashed mega.  It's open again
they did closing it for a bit cause they =SAY= the
FBI office got hit too and confidential papers were
scattered all over !  Geesh !  :)

Line Dancing ?  What's that ?

> 
> > *The Shields Have Turned To Cheese*
> 
> Yeah, I nicked that off a Forsaken demo, another
> reason not to release the
> game. :-)

I've got a gazillion .WAV files of sound FX stuff
if you wanna DIR sometime lemme know.  There's a
neato technique I found myself a week ago on how to
scroll bitmaps wrap around screen that's VERY fast.
Was gonna make a little top-view shooter with music
and all.  Need to find some good pix of spaceships
tho.

That oughta get GFA all "videogame" ready.  :)

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:

--- Bev Brown <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
> List Member "Bev Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com>
> wrote:
> Yup! been doing them since the old Atari days & it's
> only
> as dangerous as you make it!

I remember playing with the VTOC on Apple ][+
cause the floppy drive made a really cool warp
engine sound when you read 10 tracks per second !
I switched a disk so it did tracks first and then
sectors.  Man Dad just about killed me when he
found out !  :)  But it sounded cool tho.

> 
> I've tried everyway I can think of & a few from
> looking at
> the way Roland does some of the other new $21
> interrupts
> & nothing I can come up with gets me the info.
> 
>                              -->Bev<--

Is this for software protection ?  I have to admit,
modifying at a system level someone's hard-drive
is probably some kinna protection that'd be hard
to get around.  But I wouldn't dabble there if it
was me.  I always try to get the "effect" of
machine-language just thru good codings.

That's just me tho !  :)

Sincerely,
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:


--- Tom Record
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> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> That program cost me $70 & screwed me around every
> time I ran it!
> I threw it into the trash months ago - CD & all!  I
> wouldn't have 
> in on my computers ever again!

Tom, I've got ver 4.14.  Maybe a really =ADVANCED=
version messes with stuff.  That's why I always try
to stick with the older stuff cause usually it's
better !  :)

I got on the net found a really fancy super special
racecar one time, got Dad's wedding pix, snipped him
out using Magic Paintbrush in PSP, that's the little
magic wand thingie, you just point it and it knows
what to clip !  Nipped out the mirror jutting out
side, put in dad, put back in mirror, looked like
he was =REALLY= in it !  Did that for his B-Day !
:)
> 
> Now... I'm looking at maybe getting to market w/ one
> of my own,
> so why mess w/ PSP?  For personal work, I have
> others that are
> as good & DON'T mess w/ my association desires.

Tom, I'll be honest with you, they're doing some
things in PSP I'd find hard to do myself to match
the kinna speed they want !  If I could ever fill
a page 10x a second with pixels, I could write
any graphic library of any kind, but using
~setpixel is going to be WAY too slow to get to the
good stuff.  :/

> 
> OK?

Sarait !  :)

Sincerely,
David W.

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--- Tom Record
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> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> David
> very nearly exact!  Back to it & you a bit later...
> pills are taking effect & I'm too woozie to make
> much
> sense.
> Thanks gadzillions!
> <G>
> TomR.

Hey !  Glad to help !  You know me, I like graphic
toys too.  :)

Man I wish I had some woozy pills some days !
Naaah, just this Notrip stuff.  It's O-K-A-Y but
no buzzzz or yichahchachak good effect or anything.

Well Rose is due today and I spent =SO= much time
fooling with Mr. Magnify I still gotta little
room cleaning to do.  Yah I let my get all trashed
out mega till I have company then =SOMEHOW= get
it all in order at the last minute !

Sincerely,
David W.

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--- Tom Record
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> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> We'll have to see what the result looks like.  To
> now,
> everything of any use has always been posted! 
> There's
> one hell of a fine editor on Dale's site by Eberhard
> -
> I just can't read "C" all that well.
> <G>
> TomR.

Yah you and me both !  I always try to make my stuff
simple really easy to read !  :)

Downloading his ImageEdit now to try it out.

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Greets John:

--- John Kuehn <jkuehn@ex-pressnet.com> wrote:
> List Member John Kuehn <jkuehn@ex-pressnet.com>
> wrote:
>     Probably, for me, the most disturbing aspect of
> programming in GFA
> 16 bit for Windows is that anything, except the
> mouse, that covers an
> area or resizes the screen, inherently erases the
> current screen
> contents..

Check out Russell's and mine combined package
Laser Blast it shows refresh really good making
use of Russell (The Guru of Window Glue!)
WindowLock !

> 
>     Then later when the area is uncovered all what
> was there is gone....
> 
>     Now I realize that I can save the screen
> contents and restore them
> with the MEMDC and BITBLT commands..
>     But when the screen contents are dynamic. how is
> this accomplished
> without an excessive amount of processor time?

Oh you use MEMDC, ahhm..  What's dynamic ?

> 
>     I considered writing everything to the
> rear/invisible screen and
> periodically BITBLTing it to the foreground, but,
> that still seems as if
> it would cause an appreciable slowdown

Not if you keep a small window, that's why I use
Topaz flavored 400x300.  My newest toy
Mr. Magnify is kinna slow cause it updates the
whole screen.  I'm about to put out a new version
of it that's 10x faster using ISOLATION plot !
This would fix the speed problem !

ISOLATION is what a lot of really old videogames
used cause their brains were too small !  :)

Check it out !

> Thanks in advance    John Kuehn

Nice to know there's even =MORE= GFA people into
graphics !  :)

Sincerely,
David W.


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Subject: Re: [gfabasic] Serial #
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
David
Russ doesn't know what he's missing, does he <G>?
Last spring, one jumped over Tulsa, but dropped
down about 2 miles north of me & took out a Baptist
church... the only thing it hit in town <G>.  Makes
ya wonder about that preacher, hunh!

The day of *your* episode, Anna was sitting in her car
at work on a smoke break & decided to hell w/ the
cigarette when the car started bouncing around.  We
had 5 or 6 here, but none touched down.
<G>
TomR.



At 03:15 AM 01/04/00 +0100, you wrote:
>
>Hi David,
>
>> Hey Russel !
>> I didn't see your Serial # program in here !
>> Could you please post it again ?
>> I'm trying to learn good Window stuff to ya know !
>> Thanks !
>
>I don't think you'll like it that much, it's more thunking.
>
>> We hadda real scare with this Tornado thing.
>> Got by the Dr.'s okay tho.  Are you ever gonna
>> upload your neat space shooter game ??  :)
>
>Not unless I totally re-write it, which I may do sometime in the future.
>Glad you're alright, tornadoes are not something I've experienced here in
>Lincolnshire, the biggest natural disaster we have is line dancing. :-D
>
>> *The Shields Have Turned To Cheese*
>
>Yeah, I nicked that off a Forsaken demo, another reason not to release the
>game. :-)
>
>Russ
>--
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>
>
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Subject: Re: [gfabasic] Serial #
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
I think the idea is to get info that a user _can't_
alter.
<G>
TomR.


At 05:38 AM 01/04/00 -0800, you wrote:
>List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>--- Bev Brown <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
>> List Member "Bev Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com>
>> wrote:
>> Yup! been doing them since the old Atari days & it's
>> only
>> as dangerous as you make it!
>
>I remember playing with the VTOC on Apple ][+
>cause the floppy drive made a really cool warp
>engine sound when you read 10 tracks per second !
>I switched a disk so it did tracks first and then
>sectors.  Man Dad just about killed me when he
>found out !  :)  But it sounded cool tho.
>
>> 
>> I've tried everyway I can think of & a few from
>> looking at
>> the way Roland does some of the other new $21
>> interrupts
>> & nothing I can come up with gets me the info.
>> 
>>                              -->Bev<--
>
>Is this for software protection ?  I have to admit,
>modifying at a system level someone's hard-drive
>is probably some kinna protection that'd be hard
>to get around.  But I wouldn't dabble there if it
>was me.  I always try to get the "effect" of
>machine-language just thru good codings.
>
>That's just me tho !  :)
>
>Sincerely,
>David W.
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Subject: [gfabasic] Mr. Magnify !
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
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Okay Kiddies !

My Room's all clean so I get to see Rose !
Yah she gets on my case if it's cluttered.  :)

Videogames years ago used a funny little technique
called ISOLATION transfer.  The little itty bitty
brains of videogames years ago couldn't transfer
entire regions so they transfered smaller regions
only where it was needed !

Relive videogame history in the making by seeing
ISOLATION transfer speed up Mr. Magnify by a factor
up to warp 4 !  :)

Some examples of ISOLATION transfer ?
+ Space Invaders (the background was a plastic film!)
+ PacMan (Once walls were plotted, they never moved!)

Some games that update the entire screen are:
+ Galaga (Animating starry background)
+ Tutunkhaman (entire map background left & right)

Now, it's a real treat when you can combine
ISOLATION transfer with RPG graphics such as
planar scrolling and multilayer sprites but it's
a lot more work too !

I'll write every one a RPG planar scroller
soon !

Tom wants a bit of credit and yah he deserves it
for keeping my mind spinning on ideas !  :)

Let's give it up folks for the Tiger,
Tom Record !   Yaaaaaaaaay !!

Next on the GFA menuboard: "Mouse Tickler !"

If any of you out there would like a small videogame
for GFABasic, just let me know and I'll try to
write a good one where every one can learn from
the source code too !

But be descriptive on how its played cause I might
not have played it myself !  :)

I'm playing around with putting together a graphic/
audio shooter but it needs to be something a little
different and special compared to most other ones
out there.

We need to get some fun-to-play videogames in this
nice GFAForum !

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member DaveRecord@aol.com wrote:
Somebody please unsubscribe DaveRecord@aol.com.
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List Member MISER@LCIA.COM (Micromiser, Inc) wrote:
At 07:28 AM 4/1/00 -0500, you wrote:
>List Member John Kuehn <jkuehn@ex-pressnet.com> wrote:
>    Probably, for me, the most disturbing aspect of programming in GFA
>16 bit for Windows is that anything, except the mouse, that covers an
>area or resizes the screen, inherently erases the current screen
>contents..
>
Remember that system modal windows don't erase - Windows takes care of the
redraw, and make sure you are familiar with the SetSysModalWindow API call.

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Remember that system modal windows don't erase -
> Windows takes care of the
> redraw, and make sure you are familiar with the
> SetSysModalWindow API call.
> 
> -----
> Steve Thornton

Hi Steve !
Is there some flag or something you set then inside
a window that makes it auto refresh its original
contents ?

That is, I plot a photograph, cover it up a bit,
and when I move it outta the way a bit, it auto-
redraws it ?

If so, I'd like to know !

Thanks !

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member "Roland Walter" <roland@rowalt.de> wrote:
Hallo to all,
Do You know the great Sokoban Game?
It's really one of the best strategy games I know.
There exist some Windows version available in Internet.
For fun I have written an own version using GFA Basic
which is now available at my homepage (section "listings").
http://www.rowalt.de/gfabasic/

The program file has a size of 26KB only including 50
game levels (!). Don't ask the size of other versions
made in other programming languages...
O.K., I have not used bitmaps but this is not the most important
question. Have a look at Yourself, the sources are included.

Many fun,
Roland Walter
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> List Member "Roland Walter" <roland@rowalt.de>
> wrote:
> Hallo to all,
> Do You know the great Sokoban Game?
> It's really one of the best strategy games I know.
> There exist some Windows version available in
> Internet.
> For fun I have written an own version using GFA
> Basic
> which is now available at my homepage (section
> "listings").
> http://www.rowalt.de/gfabasic/
> 
> The program file has a size of 26KB only including
> 50
> game levels (!). Don't ask the size of other
> versions
> made in other programming languages...
> O.K., I have not used bitmaps but this is not the
> most important
> question. Have a look at Yourself, the sources are
> included.
> 
> Many fun,
> Roland Walter

Ahhh - ooohh - huuuuh ??

I can't read German..  And your page is well ..
German.  :)  Please let me know the URL and
will try it then !

Sincerely,
David W.


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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:


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Greets Dave.  This is Dave also.  Ahhm, David
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Hey GFABasic has never been easier !
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List Member MISER@LCIA.COM (Micromiser, Inc) wrote:
Hi David Wicker and John Kuehn,

John, I think the best way to learn more about SetSysModalWindow is to
search for it on the Internet. The documentation in my references, including
the API Bible, has not been very useful. The important thing about system
modal windows is that they take over the system--no other windows can
receive input while a window remains system modal.

Since you asked about my message concerning the SetSysModalWindow call, I
will expand a little.

I have used SetSysModalWindow in a GFA dialog box window which is itself
inside a DLL. I can do anything inside it I have done in a normal GFA
window, e.g. windows controls, fonts, draw including all GFA and Windows API
painting functions, show pictures, message loop to test for input, etc., and
when the window is closed, the screen redraws quickly and cleanly with no
assistance from me. Yet when I have used GFA dialog boxes which are not
system modal, the screen has never redrawn. So, I cannot say for sure what
makes the screen redraw, and have no documentation on this issue, but from
this experience assume it is because the window is sysmodal. Perhaps someone
more knowledgeable could explain what makes the screen redraw.

The GFA documentation I've read says a GFA Dialog Box is really a normal
Windows window. So this should work in any window, though I've not tested
it. Perhaps such a Window would need to be opened using Windows API calls,
not OPENW...

If you would like to see some example code from this dialog box including
SetSysModalWindow and various window operations, I would be happy to send it.

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List Member "Roland Walter" <roland@rowalt.de> wrote:
Hallo to all,

I think You know this: All is done, You publish Your program
and just next day You have 100 ideas what else is to do (or You
find a bug)...

O.K., Here is the game Sokoban 1.1
New in this version:
- Minor bug fix (Alt+F4 was not possible)
- Begon levels now will be stored so that you can continue
  them after next start
- Undo of last move implemented
- Now support for different languages (currently german and english)

See http://www.rowalt.de/gfabasic/
Goto section "listings", Sokoban is the 3rd file from top

I hope this was all ;-)
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List Member "Roland Walter" <roland@rowalt.de> wrote:

> [...] Sokoban in GFA Basic [...]
> 
> Ahhh - ooohh - huuuuh ??
> 
> I can't read German..  And your page is well ..
> German.  :)  Please let me know the URL and
> will try it then !

This is the main page:
http://www.rowalt.de/gfabasic/
The only need for navigation is the top line:
[About] [Texts] [Tools] [Listings] [Links]
Don't be confused by the german texts - at nearly
all pages (exception "Texts") You will also find
english comments, especially the "Listings" page.
At the "Listings" page You will find Sokoban
easy.

Bye Roland

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List Member John Kuehn <jkuehn@ex-pressnet.com> wrote:


"Micromiser, Inc" wrote:

> List Member MISER@LCIA.COM (Micromiser, Inc) wrote:
> Hi David Wicker and John Kuehn,
>
> John, I think the best way to learn more about SetSysModalWindow is to
> search for it on the Internet.

Thanks for the help...

 As much as I use it, I often forget that the net is the best reference
around...Case of forrest and trees I guess.....

  I was able to find just what I needed at http://www.lls.se/~mux/main.htm
       and
  http://www.cs.tuiasi.ro/library/unixunl/unx47.htm

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List Member Pat Bullman <pbullman@norex.com.au> wrote:
Hi Folkes,

When programming under windows, you must be prepared the re-draw your
screen at any time.  Windows will send you a WM_PAINT message prompting you
to do so.  It makes no difference if the window was created by OPENW #1 or
CreateWindow() API.  Although, the API version does have the advantage of
allowing you to trap and respond to Windows messages in ways which are
complicated (using CallBacks) under OPENW.

All windows applications work this way, whether it be Excel, Word, Eudora,
GFA - even Visual Basic (under VB this is handled automatically for you,
but rest assured that somewhere behind the scences thare's a WM_PAINT
message being processed).

It's really a simple matter of trapping the WM_PAINT message and reprinting
your screen.  The BeginPaint() API updates a PAINTSTRUCT record which
provides details on the rectangle being updated, so you only need to update
the portion of you window which has been wiped (I don't use this for "text"
screens as the re-paint happens very quickly).

While it's true that the SetSysModalWindow() API will allow you to get
around this, I recommend you don't use it.  SetSysModalWindow() is designed
for those "emergency" situation where you want the user to respond to you
before any other processing is done, ie for Critical Errors where the
system might crash.  Additionally, SetSysModalWindow() will not allow you
to "Swap" to another task, one of the fundamental features of using Windows
operating system.

There's also a problem with GFA dialog boxes.  I agree with Steve - I don't
believe that they are real Dialog Boxes, but really a normal window dressed
up to function like a Dialog.  And they don't recognise the calling window
as being their "Parent" and they will disappear behind your main window, or
not show themselves when the Parent is displayed.  Also, I've never been
able to get one of these Dialog to become truely Task Modal (that is, you
must exit the dialog before you can move to any other part of your program,
but you can still move to alther applications).

However, you can change the "Dialog's" parent by using the SetParent() API,
so that it becomes a true Child window and you can you use SetWindowLong()
to enable a callback.  This will help in enabling you to better deal with
messages.

However, regarding Dialogs, I prefer to use proper Dialogs created with
MS's AppSudio or Borland's WorkShop.  They function exactley the way my
Window's API BIBLE indicate they should.  They appear to work faster,
particularly in situations where memory is at a premium, and require less
code (you can also use them in the Interpreter if you use John Findlay
approach).

Hope this all makes sense.


Pat

Ps There are several PAINT type messages that you can receive.



>Hi David Wicker and John Kuehn,
>
>John, I think the best way to learn more about SetSysModalWindow is to
>search for it on the Internet. The documentation in my references, including
>the API Bible, has not been very useful. The important thing about system
>modal windows is that they take over the system--no other windows can
>receive input while a window remains system modal.
>
>Since you asked about my message concerning the SetSysModalWindow call, I
>will expand a little.
>
>I have used SetSysModalWindow in a GFA dialog box window which is itself
>inside a DLL. I can do anything inside it I have done in a normal GFA
>window, e.g. windows controls, fonts, draw including all GFA and Windows API
>painting functions, show pictures, message loop to test for input, etc., and
>when the window is closed, the screen redraws quickly and cleanly with no
>assistance from me. Yet when I have used GFA dialog boxes which are not
>system modal, the screen has never redrawn. So, I cannot say for sure what
>makes the screen redraw, and have no documentation on this issue, but from
>this experience assume it is because the window is sysmodal. Perhaps someone
>more knowledgeable could explain what makes the screen redraw.
>
>The GFA documentation I've read says a GFA Dialog Box is really a normal
>Windows window. So this should work in any window, though I've not tested
>it. Perhaps such a Window would need to be opened using Windows API calls,
>not OPENW...
>
>If you would like to see some example code from this dialog box including
>SetSysModalWindow and various window operations, I would be happy to send it.


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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:


--- Roland Walter <roland@rowalt.de> wrote:
> List Member "Roland Walter" <roland@rowalt.de>
> wrote:
> Hallo to all,
> 
> I think You know this: All is done, You publish Your
> program
> and just next day You have 100 ideas what else is to
> do (or You
> find a bug)...
> 
> O.K., Here is the game Sokoban 1.1
> New in this version:
> - Minor bug fix (Alt+F4 was not possible)
> - Begon levels now will be stored so that you can
> continue
>   them after next start
> - Undo of last move implemented
> - Now support for different languages (currently
> german and english)
> 
> See http://www.rowalt.de/gfabasic/
> Goto section "listings", Sokoban is the 3rd file
> from top
> 
> I hope this was all ;-)
> Bye Roland

Hi Roland:

As said I can't see the Sokoban game here.
Please post exact URL or update page to a tad of
English.

Thanks !

Sincerely,
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Subject: [gfabasic] Found Sokoban, disregard prior letter, Thanks !
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:


--- Roland Walter <roland@rowalt.de> wrote:
> List Member "Roland Walter" <roland@rowalt.de>
> wrote:
> 
> > [...] Sokoban in GFA Basic [...]
> > 
> > Ahhh - ooohh - huuuuh ??
> > 
> > I can't read German..  And your page is well ..
> > German.  :)  Please let me know the URL and
> > will try it then !
> 
> This is the main page:
> http://www.rowalt.de/gfabasic/
> The only need for navigation is the top line:
> [About] [Texts] [Tools] [Listings] [Links]
> Don't be confused by the german texts - at nearly
> all pages (exception "Texts") You will also find
> english comments, especially the "Listings" page.
> At the "Listings" page You will find Sokoban
> easy.
> 
> Bye Roland

Aieee !!

A real honest to goodness video game !
Okay, this is classic stuff, QBees can do this with
one hand tied behind their back but KUDOS for
presenting perhaps the first real playable videogame
for GFA.

Yaas, I could improve this a gazillionfold, this
is called BOXXLE on the Gameboy and its the classic
move the crates over the spots game, it's a thinking
puzzle and I get news for ya, this level is not the
1st !  You're on like the 5th level !

If you like puzzle games, get hold of a Gameboy
Emulator, and check out Boxxle, Boxxle2, Megalit,
Kwirk, Tetris, and Puyolin.

My Fruity Jam will probably be more like an
upside-down version of Puyolin.

Looking at source..
Urrrkh !   Aieeeee !  Okay, this sourcecode is --
ahhhm - HUGE and complex and maybe doesn't need to
be ?

LowBlur eats this kinna stuff
for breakfast.  Okay, I'm going to hold off on
everything else until I get LowBlur done.
I'll work it into WarpSpeed as a sample.

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Okay..
I'm seeing a pattern here.
I tend to write most of my interface for anything
for any language, so the code is quite a bit smaller.
Now, although a lot of you may not be drowning in
these
Win98/95/3.1 special commands that do some really fine
things to programs, they also require enormous coding
and complexity.  I'd much rather write my own.

It is my hope that with LowBlur, I can demonstrate the
ease and efficiency of "mimicking" these effects
without massive coding or interface.

Looking at the source for Sokoban, I see this is a
very
deep pattern that apparently has gone on for years.
We gotta get more QBee coders in here cause this code
can be written in hundreds of lines less !

I don't blame anyone, I don't think you guys have
really been around some QBee coders much.  Okay !

Hey !  Glad to be here !  I think we can all learn
some good coding, including myself !  :)

Sincerely,
David W.

--- "Micromiser, Inc" <MISER@LCIA.COM> wrote:
> List Member MISER@LCIA.COM (Micromiser, Inc) wrote:
> Hi David Wicker and John Kuehn,
> 
> John, I think the best way to learn more about
> SetSysModalWindow is to
> search for it on the Internet. The documentation in
> my references, including
> the API Bible, has not been very useful. The
> important thing about system
> modal windows is that they take over the system--no
> other windows can
> receive input while a window remains system modal.
> 
> Since you asked about my message concerning the
> SetSysModalWindow call, I
> will expand a little.
> 
> I have used SetSysModalWindow in a GFA dialog box
> window which is itself
> inside a DLL. I can do anything inside it I have
> done in a normal GFA
> window, e.g. windows controls, fonts, draw including
> all GFA and Windows API
> painting functions, show pictures, message loop to
> test for input, etc., and
> when the window is closed, the screen redraws
> quickly and cleanly with no
> assistance from me. Yet when I have used GFA dialog
> boxes which are not
> system modal, the screen has never redrawn. So, I
> cannot say for sure what
> makes the screen redraw, and have no documentation
> on this issue, but from
> this experience assume it is because the window is
> sysmodal. Perhaps someone
> more knowledgeable could explain what makes the
> screen redraw.
> 
> The GFA documentation I've read says a GFA Dialog
> Box is really a normal
> Windows window. So this should work in any window,
> though I've not tested
> it. Perhaps such a Window would need to be opened
> using Windows API calls,
> not OPENW...
> 
> If you would like to see some example code from this
> dialog box including
> SetSysModalWindow and various window operations, I
> would be happy to send it.
> 
> -----
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David,
Below is teh URL to Rolands site. Select LISTINGS and look for Sokoban
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> List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> --- Roland Walter <roland@rowalt.de> wrote:
> > List Member "Roland Walter" <roland@rowalt.de>
> > wrote:
> > Hallo to all,
> >
> > I think You know this: All is done, You publish Your
> > program
> > and just next day You have 100 ideas what else is to
> > do (or You
> > find a bug)...
> >
> > O.K., Here is the game Sokoban 1.1
> > New in this version:
> > - Minor bug fix (Alt+F4 was not possible)
> > - Begon levels now will be stored so that you can
> > continue
> >   them after next start
> > - Undo of last move implemented
> > - Now support for different languages (currently
> > german and english)
> >
> > See http://www.rowalt.de/gfabasic/
> > Goto section "listings", Sokoban is the 3rd file
> > from top
> >
> > I hope this was all ;-)
> > Bye Roland
>
> Hi Roland:
>
> As said I can't see the Sokoban game here.
> Please post exact URL or update page to a tad of
> English.
>
> Thanks !
>
> Sincerely,
> David W.
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--- Dale Bryant <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com>
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> David,
> Below is teh URL to Rolands site. Select LISTINGS
> and look for Sokoban
> http://www.rowalt.de/gfabasic/
> Dale Bryanthttp

I found it..  Hey !  This is actually pretty good !
It recognizes a resize window !  That was hell for
me in Vector, very nice !

Put a smile on the the yellow guy Roland !
He looks so serious !  :|  :)

Sincerely,
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> List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com>
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Huum ??  Well please don't leave me out Dale !
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> List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> Huum ??  Well please don't leave me out Dale !
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Subject: [gfabasic] mouse, stretch, 2nd display, etc.
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Ok, got the little window to allow an image to be loaded.
These work, for what they're worth.  To *some* extent, anyway.
TomR.

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cx& = GETDEVCAPS(HORZRES)
cy& = GETDEVCAPS(VERTRES)
dh&  = _DRIVE
ph$ = DIR$(0)

OPENW #1,0,0,cx&,cy&,16
FILESELECT "*.bmp","",n$
CHDRIVE dh&
CHDIR ph$
IF n$ = ""
  CLOSEW #1
  CLEAR
  END
ENDIF
IF EXIST(n$)
  n& = LOADBMP(n$)
  '  PUT 0,0,n&
ENDIF

DO
  GETEVENT
  PUT 0,0,n&
  IF _Mess = WM_MOUSEMOVE
    x& = LOWORD(_lParam)
    y& = HIWORD (_lParam)
    IF merkbmp&
      PUT merkx&,merky&,merkbmp&
      FREEBMP merkbmp&
      merkbmp& = 0
    ENDIF
    merkx& = x& - 20,merky& = y& - 20
    GET merkx&,merky&, merkx& + 80,merky& + 40,merkbmp& // viel Platz
    // man kann das ganze etwas beschleunigen, indem man den Bereich bei GET
verkleinert
    GRAPHMODE ,TRANSPARENT // mitGRAPHMODE etwas langsamer
    '    TEXT x& + 20,y&,STR$(x&) + ", " + STR$(y&)
    TITLEW #1,STR$(x&) + ", " + STR$(y&)
    CIRCLE x&,y&,19
  ENDIF
LOOP UNTIL _Mess = WM_RBUTTONDOWN
FREEBMP n&
CLOSEW #1
END

------------------------------------------------

/* 1_pixel.lst ... 2 Apr 2000, TomR.
/* Am losing track of who did what, so here's the community project!
/* Now to make GetPixel() & SetPixel() to work on the crosshair.

dh&  = _DRIVE
ph$ = DIR$(0)

OPENW #30,0,0,_X,_Y,16
FILESELECT "*.bmp","",n$
CHDRIVE dh&
CHDIR ph$
IF n$ = ""
  CLOSEW #1
  CLEAR
  END
ENDIF
IF EXIST(n$)
  hBmp& = LOADBMP(n$)
  PUT 0,0,hBmp&
ENDIF

wx& = _X / 2
wy& = 5

OPENW #1, wx&, wy&, 80, 80, 0
SETCAPTURE 1
DEFMOUSE 0

DO
  PEEKEVENT
  LINE 0,0,_X,_Y  /* * 1/2 of crosshair indicating mouse tip
  LINE 0,_Y,_X,0  /* * 2/2 of crosshair indicating mouse tip
  SELECT _Mess
  CASE WM_KEYDOWN
    SELECT _wParam
    CASE VK_UP
      wy& --
    CASE VK_INSERT   /* up 20
      wy& = wy& - 20
    CASE VK_DOWN
      wy& ++
    CASE VK_HOME /* down 20
      wy& = wy& + 20
    CASE VK_LEFT
      wx& --
    CASE VK_DELETE   /* left 20
      wx& = wx& - 20
    CASE VK_RIGHT
      wx& ++
    CASE VK_END   /* right 20
      wx& = wx& + 20
    ENDSELECT
    MOVEW #1, wx&, wy&
  CASE WM_MOUSEMOVE
    x& = MOUSESX
    y& = MOUSESY
    TITLEW #30, STR$(x&) + ",  " + STR$(y&)  /* * rat's tattletale
    a& = GetDC(0)
    IF a&
      SETDC a&
      PUT 0,20,hBmp&
      GET x& - 5,y& - 5,x& + 5,y& + 5,lh&  /* * magnification
      ~ReleaseDC(0,a&)
      SETDC _DC(1)
      STRETCH 0,0,lh&,_X,_Y,SRCCOPY
      FREEBMP lh&
    ENDIF
  ENDSELECT
LOOP UNTIL MOUSEK & 2 /* * Don't want left button to close window!
RELEASECAPTURE
FREEBMP hBmp&
CLEAR
CLOSEW #30
CLOSEW #1
END

-----------------------------------------------

cx& = GETDEVCAPS(HORZRES)
cy& = GETDEVCAPS(VERTRES)
dh&  = _DRIVE
ph$ = DIR$(0)

OPENW #1,0,0,cx&,cy&,16
FILESELECT "*.bmp","",n$
CHDRIVE dh&
CHDIR ph$
IF n$ = ""
  CLOSEW #1
  CLEAR
  END
ENDIF
IF EXIST(n$)
  n& = LOADBMP(n$)
  PUT 0,0,n&
ENDIF

OPENW #2,cx& - 102,22,100,100,0
SETCAPTURE 1
DEFMOUSE 0

DO
  x& = MOUSESX
  y& = MOUSESY
  TITLEW #1, STR$(x&) + "," + STR$(y&)
  a& = GetDC(0)
  IF a&
    SETDC a&
    GET x& - 5,y& - 5,x& + 5,y& + 5,lh&
    ~ReleaseDC(0,a&)
    SETDC _DC(2)
    '    COLOR GETNEAREST(225,0,0)
    BOX 45,45,55,53
    '    COLOR GETNEAREST(0,0,0)
    '    LINE 0,0,100,100
    '    LINE 0,100,100,0
    '    CIRCLE 50,50,5
    STRETCH 0,0,lh&,_X,_Y,SRCCOPY
    FREEBMP lh&
  ENDIF
LOOP UNTIL MOUSEK
RELEASECAPTURE
CLEAR
FREEBMP n&
CLOSEW #1
CLOSEW #2
END

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:


--- Dale Bryant <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
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Thanks Dale !  =NOW= I'll get the stuff finally !
Got LowBlur's Portal finished, next is Scribe.

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:


--- Tom Record
<tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Ok, got the little window to allow an image to be
> loaded.
> These work, for what they're worth.  To *some*
> extent, anyway.
> TomR.

Looks good Tom, except for the German text I don't
know what and when you use SETCAPTURE, remember, it
locks up the whole dang computer !  Its good for
protection like you're gonna PKUNZIP encrypt or
something, but if you're downloading a gazillion
anime pictures in Free Agent or anything that is
background won't run then !

Mr. Magnify cheats by copying the display screen so
you actually truly have a =TOY= screen to play with
and no system time is munched up.  :)

Are you trying to nip out pieces of the immediate
screen or just from other defined windows ?

Sincerely,
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Well, I don't know if it's because I don't have
all the instructions or I'm missing something..

Isn't there a gate cancel besides just
SRCAND, MERGECOPY, SRCERASE ??

I need one for transfer inverted source to be
ANDed with destination for LowBlur.

Yah I can do it 2-step but I'm trying to make it
all speedy and runs fast.

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List Member bdd <BrentDeck@compuserve.com> wrote:
Using GFA DOS or GFA WIN16, is it possible to use any interrupt other tha=
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When uning $64 in the dos version I crash and burn.

Help.

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Yes, not only is it a very good movie,
but now you can enjoy it on your own computer !

(I hope...)

Here is .EXE only, guys (and gals),
please let me know if it works, if it doesn't
and sounds like, well...  not a storm, then I
won't go further, if it does, great !
I'll add animated rain, lightning, and more
important yah I know you all want it,
THE SOURCE CODE !  :)

Please Let Me Know !

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Brent:

I know that $33 (mouse stuff) & $25/6 (direct read/write to disk or drive at
sector level) work (others also but it's been a while) using GFA DOS or
WIN16; I'm having trouble with the new $21 stuff.

What's $64? it must be one of the new ones also as my DOS PROGRAMMER'S
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> List Member bdd <BrentDeck@compuserve.com> wrote:
> Using GFA DOS or GFA WIN16, is it possible to use any interrupt other than
> $21 in the ~intr() function?
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> When uning $64 in the dos version I crash and burn.
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> Help.
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List Member "Bev Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
Sounds like a rain on a tin roof to me!

                             -->Bev<--

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> Yes, not only is it a very good movie,
> but now you can enjoy it on your own computer !
> 
> (I hope...)
> 
> Here is .EXE only, guys (and gals),
> please let me know if it works, if it doesn't
> and sounds like, well...  not a storm, then I
> won't go further, if it does, great !
> I'll add animated rain, lightning, and more
> important yah I know you all want it,
> THE SOURCE CODE !  :)
> 
> Please Let Me Know !
> 
> Sincerely,
> David W.
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:


--- Bev Brown <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
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> Sounds like a rain on a tin roof to me!
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Tin Roof, that's pitch.  Okay, is the thunder
or what supposed to be thunder okay ?

I'm pretty sure this is going to work but to
get some of these strange sounds I'm combining
a few instruments.

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List Member Engelbert van Loock <Engelbert.v@n.loock.com> wrote:
> > Sounds like a rain on a tin roof to me!
> Tin Roof, that's pitch.  Okay, is the thunder
> or what supposed to be thunder okay ?
> 
> I'm pretty sure this is going to work but to
> get some of these strange sounds I'm combining
> a few instruments.

David,

it sounds good on my soundcard (Roland RAP-10). The midi output can only
be as good as the quality of your midi sound card. The FM or wave table
emulations sound always ugly.

But we should talk about note offs...

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> David,
> 
> it sounds good on my soundcard (Roland RAP-10). The
> midi output can only
> be as good as the quality of your midi sound card.
> The FM or wave table
> emulations sound always ugly.
> 
> But we should talk about note offs...
> 
> Engelbert

Hey Mr. Loock !  I missed you !  :)
This marvelous thunderstorm and the enchanting
Wind Chimes would have never been possible without
your patience and wisdom !

Okay, a few questions cause you're the expert !
I =THINK= these are getting stuffed into channels or
something.  How many midi channels are there ?

I'd like to put the rain on half and the thunder on
the other half, but I don't know what more #'s
you got, volume, sorta instr#1, true instr#2,
octave, pitch, ??

Wind Chimes works well just by shutting everything off
and then back on, =BUUUUUUT= it might be better
without
sudden silence so my piiyings can get their time in
without getting cut off.

I =FINALLY= finished that bastard LowBlur !
Aieeee !!  This was =WAY= too much brain work !
Okay, it needs to get cleaned up and then stuffed into
quick example Warpspeed, then will post.

I've got some photos of lightning, purple jagged
looking, going to play with a few vectors using
SRCPaint to get the right lighted effect.

Rain is a snap, GFA is so fast at doodling lines !

Well, I =NOW= get to nap for about an hour since I
missed my normal nap time at 1pm today !

Dale, one big NEW update coming your way !
Thanks for everything..  I'm glad I decided to
stick around, Dad is still getting the ordering
stuff for the GFA compiler.  I can't wait !
It's supposed to run much faster too !

Sincerely,
David W.

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> Okay, a few questions cause you're the expert !
> I =THINK= these are getting stuffed into channels or
> something.  How many midi channels are there ?

16, 0 till 15. It must be ORed to the status byte.


> I'd like to put the rain on half and the thunder on
> the other half, but I don't know what more #'s
> you got, volume, sorta instr#1, true instr#2,
> octave, pitch, ??
What does half mean? Half the volume? That does control 7, volume, or
control 11, expression. Controls need three bytes: &B0 - status for
control, the kind of the control, in this case 7 or 11 and its value.

When half means the panorama balance, control 10 is needed. 64 is the
center position, lower values is more left, higher more right.

 
> Wind Chimes works well just by shutting everything off
> and then back on, =BUUUUUUT= it might be better
> without
> sudden silence so my piiyings can get their time in
> without getting cut off.

My sound card reacts different: when the midi device is closed, the
nonstoped notes sound eternilly. So I have to send a GM-Reset for
silence (see attachment).

Your personal Mr.Loock
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Oof !  This is a lotta stuff !
Okay, I'm looking at the last line:

IF @@midiOutClose(hMidiOut&) THEN
~@@midiOutReset(hMidiOut&)

If I put this before CloseMidi does this free
the channels ?

Here are my scrabble notes on what I've found:
MidiMsg = &007F0000
'            VvOPIi
' Vv=Volume, O=Octave, P=Pitch, Ii=Instrument Sorta

Can this be detailed better ?  And are there other
number value things that go in there ?
MidiMsg = &0000000000000000
'          ^^^^^^^^^ Where there might be stuff here.

> 16, 0 till 15. It must be ORed to the status byte.

Okay, which character position is that in MidiMsg ?

> What does half mean? Half the volume? That does
> control 7, volume, or
> control 11, expression. Controls need three bytes:
> &B0 - status for
> control, the kind of the control, in this case 7 or
> 11 and its value.

Well..  Half the channels are dedicated to Rain,
and the other half to Thunder, not really stereo so
much as the rain isn't cut off or the Thunder by
them fighting for a free channels !  :)

> 
> When half means the panorama balance, control 10 is
> needed. 64 is the
> center position, lower values is more left, higher
> more right.

Ouch..  Control, is that the Sorta Instrument # ?

> 
>  
> > Wind Chimes works well just by shutting everything
> off
> > and then back on, =BUUUUUUT= it might be better
> > without
> > sudden silence so my piiyings can get their time
> in
> > without getting cut off.
> 
> My sound card reacts different: when the midi device
> is closed, the
> nonstoped notes sound eternilly. So I have to send a
> GM-Reset for
> silence (see attachment).

> Your personal Mr.Loock

Does the last line of the example you sent GM_RESET
fix that ?

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Well, I finished writing LowBlur yesterday with
a few things that need mentioning.  It's too big
and undocumented to fit in the 1,000 line limit.
I'll be making it a .DLL of accessible graphic
routines and functions once I get the compiler
from Dad.  C'mon Dad !  :)

I'm adding to it now all the other niceties that go
with a GUI OS, buttons, field selectors, input
fields, XMarks, OneMarks, and Menus.

So I'll be working on it probably for quite some
time if you wonder why I'm not working on or posting
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Sincerely,
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List Member Engelbert van Loock <Engelbert.v@n.loock.com> wrote:
> IF @@midiOutClose(hMidiOut&) THEN
> ~@@midiOutReset(hMidiOut&)
> 
> If I put this before CloseMidi does this free
> the channels ?

No. That is just to prevent the blocking of the midi out device in case
of an error while closing it.

 
> Here are my scrabble notes on what I've found:
> MidiMsg = &007F0000
> '            VvOPIi
> ' Vv=Volume, O=Octave, P=Pitch, Ii=Instrument Sorta
> 
> Can this be detailed better ?  And are there other
> number value things that go in there ?
> MidiMsg = &0000000000000000
> '          ^^^^^^^^^ Where there might be stuff here.

As you know, only one midi event can not trigger a note and specify its
sound. So you have to define the instrument with a ProgramChange message
or, depending on your sound card, with a combination of BankSelect and
ProgramChange. Pitch and octave are one value (0 to 127, 60 is the
middle C, 72 is C' etc.). What you call Volume is velocity. It stores
how fast you hit the piano key.
The mmsystem.dll expects it in this form:
MidiMsg%=&V2V1SC.
S is the status byte (eg. NoteOn = &90), C is the channel (&00 - &0F),
V1 is the first value (eg. the NoteNumber) and V2 is the second value
(eg. Velocity). If a C is supposed to be played on channel 3 with
highest velocity it is
MidiMsg%=&7F3C92 -> &7F the velocity value of 127 (highest data value),
&3C is the Pitch of C, &9x is the NoteOn status and the 2 is for channel
3 (zero based).


> > 16, 0 till 15. It must be ORed to the status byte.
> 
> Okay, which character position is that in MidiMsg ?

The very last. MidiMsg%=&7F3C90 if for channel 1, MidiMsg%=&7F3C91 for
channel 2 and so on.


> Well..  Half the channels are dedicated to Rain,
> and the other half to Thunder, not really stereo so
> much as the rain isn't cut off or the Thunder by
> them fighting for a free channels !  :)

The advance of 16 channels is to have 16 different instruments at one
time. If you only want to use one sound, one channel is enough. But the
polyphonic has a limit. By convention at 24 voices - the most cards
offer 32 or 64 voices. Modern sound equipment handles the note limit per
channel dynamicly. If only one channel is used this channel has all
available voices.


> > When half means the panorama balance, control 10 is
> > needed. 64 is the
> > center position, lower values is more left, higher
> > more right.
> 
> Ouch..  Control, is that the Sorta Instrument # ?

I am not sure what you mean with Sorta Instrument. But the control event
is a family of different messages like volume, modulation, sustain and
even chorus, reverb and delay.


> Does the last line of the example you sent GM_RESET
> fix that ?

No. The whole code is needed. Put the longmessage and prepareheader
stuff to your dll declaration and use line 22 till 27 for the GM-Reset.
It should be done at the program's start also, because most cards have
several modes and the GM-Mode is only one of them but the standard mode
for midi file interchange. Every sound card, keyboard or sound module
that is manufactured during the last 5 or 7 years offers at least the GM
mode. BTW: GM stands for General Midi.

 
Engelbert
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Okay !  I'm =TRYING= to understand this, it's
still complex.  Here is my new template for
project, "Rainstorm"

PROCEDURE PlayNote(Instr,Pitch,Volume,Channel)
  ~@@MIDIOUTSHORTMSG(MIDI,(Instr << 8) + 202)
  ~@@MIDIOUTSHORTMSG(MIDI,(Volume << 16) + (Pitch <<
8) + 16 * 9 + 10)' + 154), 144?
  ' Pitch = 0-127
RETURN

But the Channel doesn't work !  It must be &9A (154)
or no go for anything !

The "<<" means times the power of 2, <<8 is 256,
I saw this in Russell's stuff so I had to bring up
HELP to see what it was.  :)

Okay, the 154 is required on my end !  144 is the
"&9x is the NoteOn status" which is correct, but I
can't do anything except "&9A", if it's not this,
I don't get any sound at all, the "A" is required !

5 things then,
1) Is there a way to turn off all the notes just
   by feeding a value into MIDIMSG ?
2) What are the different commands I can feed in then
?
   if &9A plays a note, how do I stop it ?
   Especially since I can't change the "A" at all to
   any channel # !
3) Knowing that command &CA is for changing the
   instrument, are there additional commands besides
   this ?
4) Is the "A" perhaps a checksum for the totals ?

5) Is there a "pure" number I can feed into MIDIMSG
   that resets everything so almost every MIDI card
   will behave the same way perhaps limiting my
   options, but expanding compatibility ?

That's all from here.  I can see both &CA and &9A
share the same ending value so perhaps there is
Channel somewhere else and maybe other different
commands ?

You've given me something to think about anways.
Thanks !  :)

Sincerely,
David W.
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> List Member Engelbert van Loock
> <Engelbert.v@n.loock.com> wrote:
> > IF @@midiOutClose(hMidiOut&) THEN
> > ~@@midiOutReset(hMidiOut&)
> > 
> > If I put this before CloseMidi does this free
> > the channels ?
> 
> No. That is just to prevent the blocking of the midi
> out device in case
> of an error while closing it.
> 
>  
> > Here are my scrabble notes on what I've found:
> > MidiMsg = &007F0000
> > '            VvOPIi
> > ' Vv=Volume, O=Octave, P=Pitch, Ii=Instrument
> Sorta
> > 
> > Can this be detailed better ?  And are there other
> > number value things that go in there ?
> > MidiMsg = &0000000000000000
> > '          ^^^^^^^^^ Where there might be stuff
> here.
> 
> As you know, only one midi event can not trigger a
> note and specify its
> sound. So you have to define the instrument with a
> ProgramChange message
> or, depending on your sound card, with a combination
> of BankSelect and
> ProgramChange. Pitch and octave are one value (0 to
> 127, 60 is the
> middle C, 72 is C' etc.). What you call Volume is
> velocity. It stores
> how fast you hit the piano key.
> The mmsystem.dll expects it in this form:
> MidiMsg%=&V2V1SC.
> S is the status byte (eg. NoteOn = &90), C is the
> channel (&00 - &0F),
> V1 is the first value (eg. the NoteNumber) and V2 is
> the second value
> (eg. Velocity). If a C is supposed to be played on
> channel 3 with
> highest velocity it is
> MidiMsg%=&7F3C92 -> &7F the velocity value of 127
> (highest data value),
> &3C is the Pitch of C, &9x is the NoteOn status and
> the 2 is for channel
> 3 (zero based).
> 
> 
> > > 16, 0 till 15. It must be ORed to the status
> byte.
> > 
> > Okay, which character position is that in MidiMsg
> ?
> 
> The very last. MidiMsg%=&7F3C90 if for channel 1,
> MidiMsg%=&7F3C91 for
> channel 2 and so on.
> 
> 
> > Well..  Half the channels are dedicated to Rain,
> > and the other half to Thunder, not really stereo
> so
> > much as the rain isn't cut off or the Thunder by
> > them fighting for a free channels !  :)
> 
> The advance of 16 channels is to have 16 different
> instruments at one
> time. If you only want to use one sound, one channel
> is enough. But the
> polyphonic has a limit. By convention at 24 voices -
> the most cards
> offer 32 or 64 voices. Modern sound equipment
> handles the note limit per
> channel dynamicly. If only one channel is used this
> channel has all
> available voices.
> 
> 
> > > When half means the panorama balance, control 10
> is
> > > needed. 64 is the
> > > center position, lower values is more left,
> higher
> > > more right.
> > 
> > Ouch..  Control, is that the Sorta Instrument # ?
> 
> I am not sure what you mean with Sorta Instrument.
> But the control event
> is a family of different messages like volume,
> modulation, sustain and
> even chorus, reverb and delay.
> 
> 
> > Does the last line of the example you sent
> GM_RESET
> > fix that ?
> 
> No. The whole code is needed. Put the longmessage
> and prepareheader
> stuff to your dll declaration and use line 22 till
> 27 for the GM-Reset.
> It should be done at the program's start also,
> because most cards have
> several modes and the GM-Mode is only one of them
> but the standard mode
> for midi file interchange. Every sound card,
> keyboard or sound module
> that is manufactured during the last 5 or 7 years
> offers at least the GM
> mode. BTW: GM stands for General Midi.


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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
The following are new Windows messages that are under consideration for
the planned Windows 2000: 
  
1.Enter any 11-digit prime number to continue.
2.Press any key to continue or any other key to quit.
3.Press any key except... no, No, NO, NOT THAT ONE!
4.Bad command or file name! Go stand in the corner.
5.This will end your Windows session. Do you want to play another game?
6.Windows message: "Error saving file! Format drive now? (Y/Y)"
7.This is a message from God Gates: "Rebooting the world. Please log
  off."
8.To "shut down" your system, type "WIN"
9.BREAKFAST.SYS halted... Cereal port not responding.
10.COFFEE.SYS missing... Insert cup in cup holder and press any key.
11.File not found. Should I fake it? (Y/N)
12.Bad or missing mouse. Spank the cat? (Y/N)
13.Runtime Error 6D at 417A:32CF: Incompetent User.
14.Error reading FAT record: Try the SKINNY one? (Y/N)
15.WinErr 16547: LPT1 not found. Use backup. (PENCIL & PAPER.SYS)
16.User Error: Replace user.
17.Windows VirusScan 1.0 - "Windows found: Remove it? (Y/N)"
18.Your hard drive has been scanned and all stolen software titles have
   been deleted. The police are on the way.

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List Member bdd <BrentDeck@compuserve.com> wrote:
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>What's $64? it must be one of the new ones also as my DOS PROGRAMMER'S
REFERENCE 4th editon (QUE) doesn't show it. I wish QUE would put out a
later
version.<

Thanks Bev, I found the problem  =


$64 is an interrupt used by a video frame grabber driver (x11dos.sys)  fr=
om
Sensoray company.

The interface to the driver   is  provide is in C.

I had mis-translated  a line from  x11.h, and the result was failure.


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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
                                   
                              FASTPACK.DLL
         
                             Trail version 

 What is Fastpack ?
 _________________

 Fastpack.dll is a 16-bit dynamicaly load library which contains 
functions 
 for very fast compressing & decompressing files.If your win16 programs
 contain large data files you can compress them and decompress each 
time
 when launching your progam.The decompression speed is very high so 
you will
 not see perfomance decrease , but you will save a lot of disk space 
and also
 if you  compress text or some non-encrypted database it will be 
impossible 
 to change or grab some data from it.Ram requirements are very small 
 (aproximality 50 kilobytes !).The ratio is 40-70% on most binary 
files , and
 15-45 on text and database files.This dll creates no temporary files.
 I also may say that it uses no paitented algorithms.

 Trail.
 ______

 This trail version is not limited , but it contains a message box 
wich you
 will see each time loading this dll.If you dont whant it , you need 
to bye
 a non-trail version.The price is 20$.

 
 On what written , for what written.
 __________________________________

 Fastpack.dll is written on Delphi , but you can use it with many 
other com-
 pilers.Borland C++,Borland pascal for Windows 7,Symantec 
C++,Delphi,VB,e.t.c.
 Make sure that it is a 16-BIT library.

 
 Functions.
 _________________________________
 
 Fastpack contains 3-main functions :

  function FastCompress(inname,outname:string):byte; 
  
  This function will compress "inname" file and write compressed data 
to 
  "outname" file.If operation was successful , function reterns 0 , 
  if it was impossible to open inname ,it reterns 1 , 
  if it was impossible to create outname , it reterns 2.
 

  function FastDecompress(inname,outname:string):byte;
  
  Decompress "inname" file and write decompressed data to "outname" 
file.
  Reterns 0 if success , 1 if error opening "inname" file , 2 if error 
  creating "outname" file , 3 if "inname" file is not a compressed 
file.

  function FastCompressed(inname:string):boolean;
  
  Reterns true if "inname" file compressed , else reterns false.
 
  All this function are declared in complib.pas unit , for easier 
usage.

 
 Registration
 ____________
 
 See register.txt.  


 Support
 _______
 
 Only registered users get support.
 
 You can find me at internet.
 surf.to/stepanyuk
 
 Mail. 
 stepanyuk.oleg@usa.net
  
 Fidonet.
 2:5020/14.105


 Good luck in developing,
 Stepanyuk Oleg.  

   
 

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
                                  eXeScope


1. What is eXeScope

   Do you want to customize an application ?  For example,
     Change font,
     Change menu,
     Change size or layout of dialog,
     Change Icon,
     etc.,
   but do you think that it is impossible because you have not source files ?
   eXeScope is a resource editor which can edit executable files directly. 
   It can analyze and rewrite resources of EXE, DLL, OCX, etc. without source
   files. Almost all resources, that is, Menu, Dialog, String, MessageTable,
   Icon, Cursor, Bitmap, Accelerator, VersionInfo, Delphi Form, WAVE, MIDI,
   AVI, GIF, HTML, JPEG, ToolBar are supported.
   Moreover, eXeScope can analyze and display exported/imported functions
   and TypeLibrary in DLL, OCX, etc.


2. Installation

   No special installation procedure is required.  Simply put next four files
   in any directory which you prefer.
       eXeScope.exe
       eXeBat.exe
       eXeScEng.hlp
       eXeScEng.cnt


3. Registration

   eXeScope is a shareware. If you continually use eXeScope for over than
   2 weeks, please pay US$20 to be a registered user.
   You can use VISA card, Master card, AmericanExpress card, FirstVirtual,
   etc., and checks and cashes of various countries.
   The payment will be processed by "KAGI" who is a shareware agent.
   There are two ways to register:

   1) Online
      Online registration can be done at "http://order.kagi.com/?V6E".

   2) E-Mail, FAX, or Postal-mail
      There is the "Register" program to pay to eXeScope. This program
      will automatically generate the ORDER FORM when you fill forms in
      this program.
      If you use credit card or network cash for payment, you can
      immediately send the ORDER FORM to KAGI. If you use check or cash,
      print it and send with printed ORDER FORM to KAGI's postal address.
      For more information about KAGI, go to  http://www.kagi.com/


4. Changes

  Rev 4.51 => 5.00
    * Add a graphical editor for dialog resources.

  Rev 4.50 => 4.51
    * Fix a bug that the program does not work correctly when editing a
      custom control like msctls_updown32, or msctls_slider32, etc.


5. Copyright

   Toshi (Toshifumi Yamamoto) has a copyright of eXeScope. Distribution
   is not limited, but before to do it, please inform me by an e-mail.


6. Contact

   If you have any question or request, please send an e-mail to
      JCG01730@nifty.ne.jp

   The latest version of eXeScope is found below:
      http://www.vector.co.jp/authors/VA003525/

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Hi:

Dale, here's a little goodie I been looking for for over a year; a big thanx
to Russ Hayward for this one.

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Subject: [gfabasic] NEEDED


> List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> hi,
> I am looking for short code example for the FA16 news letters.  Tutorials,
> opinions or anything pertaining to GFA16 is welcome. Send to:
> adbryant@gfa.net
>
> Dale Bryant
> http://gfawhelp.com
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List Member "Bev Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
Hey Tom:

How do I get my hands on FASTPACK.DLl; I went to

http://surf.to/stepanyuk

but nada???

                             -->Bev<--

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From: "Tom Record" <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net>
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Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2000 1:45 AM
Subject: [gfabasic] Sounds interesting...


> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>
>                               FASTPACK.DLL
>
>                              Trail version
>
>  What is Fastpack ?
>  _________________
>
>  Fastpack.dll is a 16-bit dynamicaly load library which contains
> functions
>  for very fast compressing & decompressing files.If your win16 programs
>  contain large data files you can compress them and decompress each
> time
>  when launching your progam.The decompression speed is very high so
> you will
>  not see perfomance decrease , but you will save a lot of disk space
> and also
>  if you  compress text or some non-encrypted database it will be
> impossible
>  to change or grab some data from it.Ram requirements are very small
>  (aproximality 50 kilobytes !).The ratio is 40-70% on most binary
> files , and
>  15-45 on text and database files.This dll creates no temporary files.
>  I also may say that it uses no paitented algorithms.
>
>  Trail.
>  ______
>
>  This trail version is not limited , but it contains a message box
> wich you
>  will see each time loading this dll.If you dont whant it , you need
> to bye
>  a non-trail version.The price is 20$.
>
>
>  On what written , for what written.
>  __________________________________
>
>  Fastpack.dll is written on Delphi , but you can use it with many
> other com-
>  pilers.Borland C++,Borland pascal for Windows 7,Symantec
> C++,Delphi,VB,e.t.c.
>  Make sure that it is a 16-BIT library.
>
>
>  Functions.
>  _________________________________
>
>  Fastpack contains 3-main functions :
>
>   function FastCompress(inname,outname:string):byte;
>
>   This function will compress "inname" file and write compressed data
> to
>   "outname" file.If operation was successful , function reterns 0 ,
>   if it was impossible to open inname ,it reterns 1 ,
>   if it was impossible to create outname , it reterns 2.
>
>
>   function FastDecompress(inname,outname:string):byte;
>
>   Decompress "inname" file and write decompressed data to "outname"
> file.
>   Reterns 0 if success , 1 if error opening "inname" file , 2 if error
>   creating "outname" file , 3 if "inname" file is not a compressed
> file.
>
>   function FastCompressed(inname:string):boolean;
>
>   Reterns true if "inname" file compressed , else reterns false.
>
>   All this function are declared in complib.pas unit , for easier
> usage.
>
>
>  Registration
>  ____________
>
>  See register.txt.
>
>
>  Support
>  _______
>
>  Only registered users get support.
>
>  You can find me at internet.
>  surf.to/stepanyuk
>
>  Mail.
>  stepanyuk.oleg@usa.net
>
>  Fidonet.
>  2:5020/14.105
>
>
>  Good luck in developing,
>  Stepanyuk Oleg.
>
>
>
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hey Tom !  These are really good !  I think I've got
the sourcecode to Win98 somewhere around here..

Ah !  Here it is..

It's TOP SECRET so be sure and put whiteout on your
screen after you're done reading it !

 /*
     TOP SECRET Microsoft(c)  Code
     Project: Chicago(tm)
     Projected release-date: MAY 1998
    $History$
 */

 #include "win31.h"
 #include "win95.h"
 #include "evenmore.h"
 #include "oldstuff.h"
 #include "billrulz.h"
 #define INSTALL = HARD

 char make_prog_look_big[1600000];

 void main()
 {
     while(!CRASHED)
     {
         display_copyright_message();
         display_bill_rules_message();
         do_nothing_loop();
         if (first_time_installation)
         {
             make_50_megabyte_swapfile();
             do_nothing_loop();
             totally_screw_up_HPFS_file_system();

             search_and_destroy_the_rest_of_OS/2();
             hang_system();
         }
         write_something(anything);
         display_copyright_message();
         do_nothing_loop();
         do_some_stuff();
         if (still_not_crashed)
         {
             display_copyright_message();
             do_nothing_loop();
             basically_run_windows_3.1();
             do_nothing_loop();
             do_nothing_loop();
         }
     }

     if (detect_cache())
         disable_cache();

     if (fast_cpu())
     {
         set_wait_states(lots);
         set_mouse(speed, very_slow);
         set_mouse(action, jumpy);
         set_mouse(reaction, sometimes);
     }

     /* printf("Welcome to Windows 3.11"); */
     /* printf("Welcome to Windows 95"); */
     printf("Welcome to Windows 98");
     if (system_ok())
          crash(to_dos_prompt);
     else
         system_memory = open("a:\swp0001.swp"
O_CREATE);

     while(something)
     {
         sleep(5);
         get_user_input();
         sleep(5);
         act_on_user_input();
         sleep(5);
     }
     create_general_protection_fault();
 }

Sincerely,
David W.

> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> The following are new Windows messages that are
> under consideration for
> the planned Windows 2000: 
>   
> 1.Enter any 11-digit prime number to continue.
> 2.Press any key to continue or any other key to
> quit.
> 3.Press any key except... no, No, NO, NOT THAT ONE!
> 4.Bad command or file name! Go stand in the corner.
> 5.This will end your Windows session. Do you want to
> play another game?
> 6.Windows message: "Error saving file! Format drive
> now? (Y/Y)"
> 7.This is a message from God Gates: "Rebooting the
> world. Please log
>   off."
> 8.To "shut down" your system, type "WIN"
> 9.BREAKFAST.SYS halted... Cereal port not
> responding.
> 10.COFFEE.SYS missing... Insert cup in cup holder
> and press any key.
> 11.File not found. Should I fake it? (Y/N)
> 12.Bad or missing mouse. Spank the cat? (Y/N)
> 13.Runtime Error 6D at 417A:32CF: Incompetent User.
> 14.Error reading FAT record: Try the SKINNY one?
> (Y/N)
> 15.WinErr 16547: LPT1 not found. Use backup. (PENCIL
> & PAPER.SYS)
> 16.User Error: Replace user.
> 17.Windows VirusScan 1.0 - "Windows found: Remove
> it? (Y/N)"
> 18.Your hard drive has been scanned and all stolen
> software titles have
>    been deleted. The police are on the way.
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:

Greets Tom, well, what I know about resource files
is they're fat & unprotected, so maybe this
JCG01730@nifty.ne.jp wants too much money ??

I think you're the resource expert so you oughta write
your own, easier, faster, better, no I'm talking
about that antacid now, it's TOM'S RESOURCE manager !
Surely you've got one of those to share with us
right ??

If not, what do we pay you for ?

Whazzat ?  Ohh. Yah, you're not getting paid..
Tell you what, we'll double it !
Whattya say !!  :)

Sincerely,
David W.

--- Tom Record
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> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>                                   eXeScope
> 
> 
> 1. What is eXeScope
> 
>    Do you want to customize an application ?  For
> example,
>      Change font,
>      Change menu,
>      Change size or layout of dialog,
>      Change Icon,
>      etc.,
>    but do you think that it is impossible because
> you have not source files ?
>    eXeScope is a resource editor which can edit
> executable files directly. 
>    It can analyze and rewrite resources of EXE, DLL,
> OCX, etc. without source
>    files. Almost all resources, that is, Menu,
> Dialog, String, MessageTable,
>    Icon, Cursor, Bitmap, Accelerator, VersionInfo,
> Delphi Form, WAVE, MIDI,
>    AVI, GIF, HTML, JPEG, ToolBar are supported.
>    Moreover, eXeScope can analyze and display
> exported/imported functions
>    and TypeLibrary in DLL, OCX, etc.
> 
> 
> 2. Installation
> 
>    No special installation procedure is required. 
> Simply put next four files
>    in any directory which you prefer.
>        eXeScope.exe
>        eXeBat.exe
>        eXeScEng.hlp
>        eXeScEng.cnt
> 
> 
> 3. Registration
> 
>    eXeScope is a shareware. If you continually use
> eXeScope for over than
>    2 weeks, please pay US$20 to be a registered
> user.
>    You can use VISA card, Master card,
> AmericanExpress card, FirstVirtual,
>    etc., and checks and cashes of various countries.
>    The payment will be processed by "KAGI" who is a
> shareware agent.
>    There are two ways to register:
> 
>    1) Online
>       Online registration can be done at
> "http://order.kagi.com/?V6E".
> 
>    2) E-Mail, FAX, or Postal-mail
>       There is the "Register" program to pay to
> eXeScope. This program
>       will automatically generate the ORDER FORM
> when you fill forms in
>       this program.
>       If you use credit card or network cash for
> payment, you can
>       immediately send the ORDER FORM to KAGI. If
> you use check or cash,
>       print it and send with printed ORDER FORM to
> KAGI's postal address.
>       For more information about KAGI, go to 
> http://www.kagi.com/
> 
> 
> 4. Changes
> 
>   Rev 4.51 => 5.00
>     * Add a graphical editor for dialog resources.
> 
>   Rev 4.50 => 4.51
>     * Fix a bug that the program does not work
> correctly when editing a
>       custom control like msctls_updown32, or
> msctls_slider32, etc.
> 
> 
> 5. Copyright
> 
>    Toshi (Toshifumi Yamamoto) has a copyright of
> eXeScope. Distribution
>    is not limited, but before to do it, please
> inform me by an e-mail.
> 
> 
> 6. Contact
> 
>    If you have any question or request, please send
> an e-mail to
>       JCG01730@nifty.ne.jp
> 
>    The latest version of eXeScope is found below:
>       http://www.vector.co.jp/authors/VA003525/
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hey Tom !  Just how many programmers you got living
under your roof ?  You wouldn't perhaps be... !

ADVERTISING for outside programmers would ya ??
:)

For the Recipe to Primrose's Absolute Tapioca Cake,
upon receipt of $3, contact dw817@yahoo.com,
and ask for Rose.

Sincerely,
David W.

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> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>                                    
>                               FASTPACK.DLL
>          
>                              Trail version 
> 
>  What is Fastpack ?
>  _________________
> 
>  Fastpack.dll is a 16-bit dynamicaly load library
> which contains 
> functions 
>  for very fast compressing & decompressing files.If
> your win16 programs
>  contain large data files you can compress them and
> decompress each 
> time
>  when launching your progam.The decompression speed
> is very high so 
> you will
>  not see perfomance decrease , but you will save a
> lot of disk space 
> and also
>  if you  compress text or some non-encrypted
> database it will be 
> impossible 
>  to change or grab some data from it.Ram
> requirements are very small 
>  (aproximality 50 kilobytes !).The ratio is 40-70%
> on most binary 
> files , and
>  15-45 on text and database files.This dll creates
> no temporary files.
>  I also may say that it uses no paitented
> algorithms.
> 
>  Trail.
>  ______
> 
>  This trail version is not limited , but it contains
> a message box 
> wich you
>  will see each time loading this dll.If you dont
> whant it , you need 
> to bye
>  a non-trail version.The price is 20$.
> 
>  
>  On what written , for what written.
>  __________________________________
> 
>  Fastpack.dll is written on Delphi , but you can use
> it with many 
> other com-
>  pilers.Borland C++,Borland pascal for Windows
> 7,Symantec 
> C++,Delphi,VB,e.t.c.
>  Make sure that it is a 16-BIT library.
> 
>  
>  Functions.
>  _________________________________
>  
>  Fastpack contains 3-main functions :
> 
>   function FastCompress(inname,outname:string):byte;
> 
>   
>   This function will compress "inname" file and
> write compressed data 
> to 
>   "outname" file.If operation was successful ,
> function reterns 0 , 
>   if it was impossible to open inname ,it reterns 1
> , 
>   if it was impossible to create outname , it
> reterns 2.
>  
> 
>   function
> FastDecompress(inname,outname:string):byte;
>   
>   Decompress "inname" file and write decompressed
> data to "outname" 
> file.
>   Reterns 0 if success , 1 if error opening "inname"
> file , 2 if error 
>   creating "outname" file , 3 if "inname" file is
> not a compressed 
> file.
> 
>   function FastCompressed(inname:string):boolean;
>   
>   Reterns true if "inname" file compressed , else
> reterns false.
>  
>   All this function are declared in complib.pas unit
> , for easier 
> usage.
> 
>  
>  Registration
>  ____________
>  
>  See register.txt.  
> 
> 
>  Support
>  _______
>  
>  Only registered users get support.
>  
>  You can find me at internet.
>  surf.to/stepanyuk
>  
>  Mail. 
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>   
>  Fidonet.
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> 
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hello !

Does anyone out there know how to change the font
easily within a window ?

What I'd like to do is make an easy-to-use command
inside of the Pyramax Library (which everyone will get
a copy of, no charge!), that will let you change
both Font & Size inside a window.

I'd like it do be accessed the following way:

Pyr_WinFont {window#},"{FontName.TTF",{height}

NO information will be needed on the class of the
font, the true descriptor name of it, its family,
nothing will be needed except the FontName.TTF,
the window you wish to apply it under, and the
heighth you want.

You could optionally supply Bold, Italic,
Strikeout, Outline, etc.  But they are not required.

If heighth is entered in at 0, then the best heighth
is chosen for the scale of this font.

I imagine this could be of considerable use to quite
a few other GFA programmers out there.  As always,
if I use your routine, I'll put you in the final
Grand Screen Credits complete with music and
animation, accessible and optional with:

PROCEDURE Pyr_Credits()

:)

I will put out a credit roller pretty soon so everyone
can see how their name will appear if they can assist
the efforts of this FREEWARE Pyramax Library which
everyone will have the opportunity to make use of
inside their own GFA sourcecodes.

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hello !

Does anyone out there know how to change the font
easily within a window ?

What I'd like to do is make an easy-to-use command
inside of the Pyramax Library (which everyone will get
a copy of, no charge!), that will let you change
both Font & Size inside a window.

I'd like it do be accessed the following way:

Pyr_WinFont {window#},"{FontName.TTF",{height}

NO information will be needed on the class of the
font, the true descriptor name of it, its family,
nothing will be needed except the FontName.TTF,
the window you wish to apply it under, and the
heighth you want.

You could optionally supply Bold, Italic,
Strikeout, Outline, etc.  But they are not required.

If heighth is entered in at 0, then the best heighth
is chosen for the scale of this font.

I imagine this could be of considerable use to quite
a few other GFA programmers out there.  As always,
if I use your routine, I'll put you in the final
Grand Screen Credits complete with music and
animation, accessible and optional with:

PROCEDURE Pyr_Credits()

:)

I will put out a credit roller pretty soon so everyone
can see how their name will appear if they can assist
the efforts of this FREEWARE Pyramax Library which
everyone will have the opportunity to make use of
inside their own GFA sourcecodes.

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hello !

Does anyone out there know how to change the font
easily within a window ?

What I'd like to do is make an easy-to-use command
inside of the Pyramax Library (which everyone will get
a copy of, no charge!), that will let you change
both Font & Size inside a window.

I'd like it do be accessed the following way:

Pyr_WinFont {window#},"{FontName.TTF",{height}

NO information will be needed on the class of the
font, the true descriptor name of it, its family,
nothing will be needed except the FontName.TTF,
the window you wish to apply it under, and the
heighth you want.

You could optionally supply Bold, Italic,
Strikeout, Outline, etc.  But they are not required.

If heighth is entered in at 0, then the best heighth
is chosen for the scale of this font.

I imagine this could be of considerable use to quite
a few other GFA programmers out there.  As always,
if I use your routine, I'll put you in the final
Grand Screen Credits complete with music and
animation, accessible and optional with:

PROCEDURE Pyr_Credits()

:)

I will put out a credit roller pretty soon so everyone
can see how their name will appear if they can assist
the efforts of this FREEWARE Pyramax Library which
everyone will have the opportunity to make use of
inside their own GFA sourcecodes.

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:

Dale Bryant
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> Dale,
>
> I tried to send messages to gfabasic@gfa.net in the last
> week 3 times, but none of them appeared. Why?
> This is the last one:
>
> Subject:        Re: [gfabasic] Storm Of The Century
> Date sent:      Wed, 5 Apr 2000 00:36:00 +0200
>
> Engelbert,
>
> your example is great! Up to now I knew (partly from your
> examples) how to send and receive short channel messages,
> now you showed how to send an arbitrary long message
> (a SYSEX). Can you also show how to receive one?
>
> Andras Szalay
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
At 05:46 AM 05/04/00 -0700, you wrote:
>List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Hey Tom !  Just how many programmers you got living
>under your roof ?  You wouldn't perhaps be... !
>
>ADVERTISING for outside programmers would ya ??
>:)
>

This was a recent topic of discussion, I just thot
some might be interested.
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Subject: Re: [gfabasic] Cheaper than other resource editors!
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
At 05:39 AM 05/04/00 -0700, you wrote:
>List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>Greets Tom, well, what I know about resource files
>is they're fat & unprotected, so maybe this
>JCG01730@nifty.ne.jp wants too much money ??
>

LOWEST price going!  Borland's is $70+, MS's not for sale.
Once compilation is done, *.res is INSIDE you *.exe or *.dll.

>
>I think you're the resource expert so you oughta write
>

Roland is the expert - I'm just a wannabe.

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Subject: [gfabasic] Sokoban: Bug in, new version 1.2
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List Member "Roland Walter" <roland@rowalt.de> wrote:
'Beispiel fr die Nutzung der Sprach-Engine Monlogue fr Windows
'Bentigt werden folgende Dateien, die sich im gleichen Verzeichnis oder im Pfad befinden mssen:
'FB_NGN.EXE, FB_SPCH.DLL, FB_TIMER.DLL, FB_11K8.DLL
'
'Die Dokumentation von CreativeLabs war leider mehr als mager. Die reine Ausgabe eines Textes
'war ein Kinderspiel, aber alles darber hinaus mute ich mir dann doch aus dem Internet holen.
'Auch dort sah es sehr mager aus. - Monologue hat aber noch erheblich mehr Funktionen als nur
'die drei frei dokumentierten.... Aber zum "Rest" war leider nichts zu finden, auch nach
'stundenlanger Suche nichts. Wenigstens den Funktionsaufruf fr die Phonetics htte ich ja
'gerne noch herausbekommen.
'
'Import der DLL-Funktionen:
DLL #1,"FB_SPCH.DLL"
  DECL LONG OpenSpeech(W,W,L) //AS 30 ' Scb%=@@OpenSpeech(hWnd&,SpeechMode&,0) / b%=@@OpenSpeech(hWnd&,SpeechMode&,"FB_11K8.DLL")
  DECL BYTE CloseSpeech(L) //AS 26          ' ~@@CloseSpeech(Scb%)
  DECL WORD Say(L,L) //AS 3                      ' RetVal&=@@Say(Scb%,"Zu sprechender Text"+CHR$(0))
ENDDLL
'
'OpenSpeech():
'Parameter 1: Fensterhandle der "Mutter-Anwendung, z.B. WIN(1)
'Parameter 2: ??? nicht dokumentiert, im Beispiel auf 0 gesetzt
'Paramerer 3: Wenn 0, dann wird die voreingestellte VoiceTable-DLL genommen. Das ist die
'                       FB_11K8.DLL (Provoice 11k 8 bit Voice Tables).
'                       Man kann aber auch in Anfhrungsstrichen den Namen einer anderen DLL angeben,
'                       falls man die hat (z.B. "fb_22k16.dll")
'Rckgabewert: Der SpeechControlBlock (LONG-Variable, die ein paar Parameter zur internen Verwendung enthlt)
Scb%=@@OpenSpeech(0,0,0)   'Oder Scb%=@@OpenSpeech(0,0,"fb_22k16.dll") falls man die entsprechende DLL hat
'
'Say():
'Parameter 1: Mu der SpeechControlBlock sein, den OpenSpeech() zurckgegeben hat
'Parameter 2: Ein String mit dem zu sprechenden Text. Mu nullterminiert sein, wenn er lnger als 250 Zeichen ist.
'                      (das ist eine GFA-BAsic-Konvention). Beispiel: "Hallihallo, das ist ein Text"+CHR$(0)
'Rckgabewert: ??? nicht dokumentiert
~@@Say(Scb%,"Many greetings from Roland. This is a text spoken by a GFA Basic program.")
'
'CloseSpeech():
'Parameter: Mu der SpeechControlBlock sein, den OpenSpeech() zurckgegeben hat
Hallo,
Sorry, there was a bug in the last version of Sokoban:
The level undo was not possible if the program was been
quitted in between. I have eleminated this bug.
Version 1.2 (with sources) is available at my homepage.

By the way: I got 17 mails for the Sokoban  :-)
I never thaught that so many people are interested.

Bye, Roland

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List Member Engelbert van Loock <Engelbert.v@n.loock.com> wrote:

> PROCEDURE PlayNote(Instr,Pitch,Volume,Channel)
>   ~@@MIDIOUTSHORTMSG(MIDI,(Instr << 8) + 202)
>   ~@@MIDIOUTSHORTMSG(MIDI,(Volume << 16) + (Pitch <<
> 8) + 16 * 9 + 10)' + 154), 144?
>   ' Pitch = 0-127
> RETURN

That is correct. I do not remember why I believe to know it, maybe from
old Atari times: Change the PLUSes (+) to ORs (||). It has the same
result but works faster (?).
"16*9+10" or 154 is NoteOne for channel 11, 144 for channel 1. The best
style is "&90 || Channel" when the channel variant zero based (0 - 15).

 
> But the Channel doesn't work !  It must be &9A (154)
> or no go for anything !

&9A is NoteOn for channel 11 as already said. I could understand when
&99 did not work, because that channel is reserved for drums.

 
> The "<<" means times the power of 2, <<8 is 256,
> I saw this in Russell's stuff so I had to bring up
> HELP to see what it was.  :)

"<<" means bit shifting. "<<8" leads to the same result as a
multiplication with 256. But someone told me it is much faster (?).


> Okay, the 154 is required on my end !  144 is the
> "&9x is the NoteOn status" which is correct, but I
> can't do anything except "&9A", if it's not this,
> I don't get any sound at all, the "A" is required !

Try to run the gm_reset thing before you start your prg. The only reason
I could imagine is that the volumes of the other channels are down.

 
> 5 things then,
> 1) Is there a way to turn off all the notes just
>    by feeding a value into MIDIMSG ?

There is a Mastervolume Universal Realtime System Exclusive Message
defined with the so called GS standard. That is developed by Roland and
is an extended GM standard. Even when GS is a reserved brand a lot of
nonGS cards can interpret some GS stuff. But I thing you don't want to
go this way...


> 2) What are the different commands I can feed in then
> ?
Use volume (ctrl 7) or better expression (ctrl 11). By defenition (for
midi files) volume should set the init mixdown while expression change
the loudness in during the playback. That makes an adaption to different
equipment more easy. The default value of expression after an init reset
is 100, but send it at start with the volume control. You have to fade
for each playing channel.


>    if &9A plays a note, how do I stop it ?
>    Especially since I can't change the "A" at all to
>    any channel # !
Send a NoteOn with velocity "0"

MidiMsg%=&7F3C92     // starts the tone
MidiMsg%=&3C92       // stops it



> 3) Knowing that command &CA is for changing the
>    instrument, are there additional commands besides
>    this ?
A lot. People wrote books about it. But this a programmers ML and not a
midi ML. In any dark corner of my harddrive whiles an ascii file with
all that. I will send you private after I found it.

(But &CA changes the instrument of channel 11. It's the same as with
notes: &C0 || Channel)


> 4) Is the "A" perhaps a checksum for the totals ?

Definitely not.

 
> 5) Is there a "pure" number I can feed into MIDIMSG
>    that resets everything so almost every MIDI card
>    will behave the same way perhaps limiting my
>    options, but expanding compatibility ?

The longMessage GM reset is the only way to happiness.


Engelbert
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
If any of you have purchased your GFA Compiler, please
help me so I can purchase my copy too !

Me and Dad have been doing paperwork on it all day
and have come to a few conclusions, please correct
me if I'm wrong.

The GFA-Basic for Windows 3.x Compiler can be
purchased
with the order form in the .PDF file that GFA Software
Technologies has provided to place orders.

The cost of the GFA-Basic for Windows 3.x Compiler
is 125.00 DEM (German Deutsche Marks), which convert
to as of 2000.04.05 18:42:27:GMT $61.5799 USD
(U.S. Dollars), I am going to send $75 in a check
to them.

Questions:
  + Are there any additional costs for Shipping &
    Handling of this product ?

  + Can this compiler handle a .LST file that may be
    in excess of 1,000 programming and, if not, what
    compiler please do I need to purchase if not
    this one ?

  + I have heard of descrepancies within the compiler
    and the interpreter.  Have you come across any
    and can you elaborate please ?

  + Is the version I order of the compiler only in
    German, or is it both, and will me sending
    American Currency prompt them to send the
    English version if available ?

  + Are there any restrictions or limitations placed
    on the compiler that you have come across and
    can you elaborate please ?

  + Are there any restrictions or limitations placed
    on the compiler in creating separate .DLL files,
    and can you elaborate please ?

I think that's it, please feel free to ask me about
anything you feel is important that I may have left
out because I want to ensure this all works out
perfectly, so we can all enjoy the library I'm
working on.

If you are concerned with too many public replies
in this GFA-Forum, you are welcome to send your
information and replies direct to dw817@yahoo.com .

Please let me know regarding this so I can work
further into the Pyramax Library which all of you
will be able to enjoy as Freeware.  Thanks !  :)

Here is a list of the available FUNCTIONs and
PROCEDUREs in current progress Pyramax Library

PROCEDURE Pyr_Startup(X,Y)
PROCEDURE Pyr_ErrFound
PROCEDURE Pyr_Shutdown
PROCEDURE Pyr_LoadBMP(H,V,Typ,F$)
PROCEDURE Pyr_SaveBMP(H,V,X,Y,F$)
PROCEDURE Pyr_PlayMid(F$)
PROCEDURE Pyr_PushMid(F$)
PROCEDURE Pyr_PullMid
PROCEDURE Pyr_CloseMid
PROCEDURE Pyr_PlayWAV(F$)
PROCEDURE Pyr_CursorMove(MH,MV,VAR H,V)
PROCEDURE Pyr_Clr
PROCEDURE Pyr_CLRSel
PROCEDURE Pyr_SelOn
PROCEDURE Pyr_SelOff
PROCEDURE Pyr_AddSel(H,V,I$,Typ)
PROCEDURE Pyr_GetSel(C)
PROCEDURE Pyr_AddMenu(H,V,I$)
PROCEDURE Pyr_ClrMenu
PROCEDURE Pyr_GetUKey
PROCEDURE Pyr_GetKey
PROCEDURE Pyr_Nano
PROCEDURE Pyr_PCopy(O,D)
PROCEDURE Pyr_Update
PROCEDURE Pyr_APage(P)
PROCEDURE Pyr_SetTR8Color(A$)
PROCEDURE Pyr_TRColor(N)
PROCEDURE Pyr_TR8(HH,VV,T$)
PROCEDURE PushWdw
PROCEDURE Pyr_PullWdw
PROCEDURE Pyr_OpenWdw(N,HH,VV,X,Y,RGB$)
PROCEDURE Pyr_CloseWdw(N)
PROCEDURE Pyr_Wdw(HH,VV,X,Y,RGB$)
PROCEDURE Pyr_MacZoom(H,V,X,Y,H2,V2,X2,Y2)
PROCEDURE Pyr_TRB(H,V,C,TT)
PROCEDURE Pyr_TRL(H,V,X,Y,A$)
PROCEDURE Pyr_GetB(H,V,VAR BMP)
PROCEDURE Pyr_PtB(H,V,BMP,Typ)
PROCEDURE Pyr_Blk
PROCEDURE Pyr_Wht
PROCEDURE Pyr_Color(R,G,B)
PROCEDURE Pyr_Pst(H,V,R,G,B)
PROCEDURE Pyr_Pnt(H,V,VAR R,G,B)
PROCEDURE Pyr_StopPaint(Win,M,W,L)
PROCEDURE Pyr_PullWord(VAR A$,B$)
FUNCTION Pyr_GetWord$(A,A$)
FUNCTION Pyr_RGB(R,G,B)
FUNCTION Pyr_Wrap(A,B,C)
FUNCTION Pyr_VLen(A$)

Quick Credits go to:
  + Russell for WindowLock
  + Dale for SetMouse
  + Mr. Loock for MidiNote (no PROCEDURE for Pyramax
yet)
  + Tom, who keeps my head spinning.  :)

Sincerely,
David W.

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--- Tom Record
<tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> At 05:39 AM 05/04/00 -0700, you wrote:
> >List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >Greets Tom, well, what I know about resource files
> >is they're fat & unprotected, so maybe this
> >JCG01730@nifty.ne.jp wants too much money ??
> >
> 
> LOWEST price going!  Borland's is $70+, MS's not for
> sale.
> Once compilation is done, *.res is INSIDE you *.exe
> or *.dll.
> 
> >
> >I think you're the resource expert so you oughta
> write
> >
> 
> Roland is the expert - I'm just a wannabe.
> 
> TomR.
> 

Tom, I can't understand all that *.RES stuff myself,
that's why I'm writing my own.  I already know it's
25% the size of normal .RES files, does almost
everything theirs does, input, audio, graphics,
forms, structures, and is infinitely easier to
create and access.  :)

Is Roland in Japan then ?
(Reading ending Email signature)

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> >Hey Tom !  Just how many programmers you got living
> >under your roof ?  You wouldn't perhaps be... !
> >
> >ADVERTISING for outside programmers would ya ??
> >:)
> >
> 
> This was a recent topic of discussion, I just thot
> some might be interested.
> TomR.

Well, no problem there then.  But you should advertise
what you've done and what you're working on now !

Inquiring Minds Want Ta Know !  :)

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--- Roland Walter <roland@rowalt.de> wrote:
> List Member "Roland Walter" <roland@rowalt.de>
> wrote:
> 'Beispiel f=FCr die Nutzung der Sprach-Engine Monlogue
> f=FCr Windows
> 'Ben=F6tigt werden folgende Dateien, die sich im
> gleichen Verzeichnis oder im Pfad befinden m=FCssen:
> 'FB_NGN.EXE, FB_SPCH.DLL, FB_TIMER.DLL, FB_11K8.DLL
> '
> 'Die Dokumentation von CreativeLabs war leider mehr
> als mager. Die reine Ausgabe eines Textes
> 'war ein Kinderspiel, aber alles dar=FCber hinaus
> mu=DFte ich mir dann doch aus dem Internet holen.
> 'Auch dort sah es sehr mager aus. - Monologue hat
> aber noch erheblich mehr Funktionen als nur
> 'die drei frei dokumentierten.... Aber zum "Rest"
> war leider nichts zu finden, auch nach
> 'stundenlanger Suche nichts. Wenigstens den
> Funktionsaufruf f=FCr die Phonetics h=E4tte ich ja
> 'gerne noch herausbekommen.
> '
> 'Import der DLL-Funktionen:
> DLL #1,"FB_SPCH.DLL"
>   DECL LONG OpenSpeech(W,W,L) //AS 30 '
> Scb%=3D@@OpenSpeech(hWnd&,SpeechMode&,0) /
> b%=3D@@OpenSpeech(hWnd&,SpeechMode&,"FB_11K8.DLL")
>   DECL BYTE CloseSpeech(L) //AS 26          '
> ~@@CloseSpeech(Scb%)
>   DECL WORD Say(L,L) //AS 3                      '
> RetVal&=3D@@Say(Scb%,"Zu sprechender Text"+CHR$(0))
> ENDDLL
> '
> 'OpenSpeech():
> 'Parameter 1: Fensterhandle der "Mutter-Anwendung,
> z.B. WIN(1)
> 'Parameter 2: ??? nicht dokumentiert, im Beispiel
> auf 0 gesetzt
> 'Paramerer 3: Wenn 0, dann wird die voreingestellte
> VoiceTable-DLL genommen. Das ist die
> '                       FB_11K8.DLL (Provoice 11k 8
> bit Voice Tables).
> '                       Man kann aber auch in
> Anf=FChrungsstrichen den Namen einer anderen DLL
> angeben,
> '                       falls man die hat (z.B.
> "fb_22k16.dll")
> 'R=FCckgabewert: Der SpeechControlBlock
> (LONG-Variable, die ein paar Parameter zur internen
> Verwendung enth=E4lt)
> Scb%=3D@@OpenSpeech(0,0,0)   'Oder
> Scb%=3D@@OpenSpeech(0,0,"fb_22k16.dll") falls man die
> entsprechende DLL hat
> '
> 'Say():
> 'Parameter 1: Mu=DF der SpeechControlBlock sein, den
> OpenSpeech() zur=FCckgegeben hat
> 'Parameter 2: Ein String mit dem zu sprechenden
> Text. Mu=DF nullterminiert sein, wenn er l=E4nger als
> 250 Zeichen ist.
> '                      (das ist eine
> GFA-BAsic-Konvention). Beispiel: "Hallihallo, das
> ist ein Text"+CHR$(0)
> 'R=FCckgabewert: ??? nicht dokumentiert
> ~@@Say(Scb%,"Many greetings from Roland. This is a
> text spoken by a GFA Basic program.")
> '
> 'CloseSpeech():
> 'Parameter: Mu=DF der SpeechControlBlock sein, den
> OpenSpeech() zur=FCckgegeben hat
> Hallo,
> Sorry, there was a bug in the last version of
> Sokoban:
> The level undo was not possible if the program was
> been
> quitted in between. I have eleminated this bug.
> Version 1.2 (with sources) is available at my
> homepage.
>=20
> By the way: I got 17 mails for the Sokoban  :-)
> I never thaught that so many people are interested.
>=20
> Bye, Roland

Greets Roland !  It's a neato game, all I need now
is the =3DSOLUTION=3D on how to get past this first
level !  :)

Sincerely,
David W.

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--- Engelbert van Loock <Engelbert.v@n.Loock.com>
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> List Member Engelbert van Loock
> <Engelbert.v@n.loock.com> wrote:
> 
> > PROCEDURE PlayNote(Instr,Pitch,Volume,Channel)
> >   ~@@MIDIOUTSHORTMSG(MIDI,(Instr << 8) + 202)
> >   ~@@MIDIOUTSHORTMSG(MIDI,(Volume << 16) + (Pitch
> <<
> > 8) + 16 * 9 + 10)' + 154), 144?
> >   ' Pitch = 0-127
> > RETURN
> 
> That is correct. I do not remember why I believe to
> know it, maybe from
> old Atari times: Change the PLUSes (+) to ORs (||).
> It has the same
> result but works faster (?).
> "16*9+10" or 154 is NoteOne for channel 11, 144 for
> channel 1. The best
> style is "&90 || Channel" when the channel variant
> zero based (0 - 15).

As incredible as this may sound.  I think I
understand !  A little... !  :)

Okay, &H90 comes back as 144, this means that
&H90-&H9F means to go to Channel # 0-15, of the MIDI,
right ?

> 
>  
> > But the Channel doesn't work !  It must be &9A
> (154)
> > or no go for anything !
> 
> &9A is NoteOn for channel 11 as already said. I
> could understand when
> &99 did not work, because that channel is reserved
> for drums.

Drums ??  Urrrggh..  Didn't they set it so you can
put any instrument on any channel ?
> 
>  
> > The "<<" means times the power of 2, <<8 is 256,
> > I saw this in Russell's stuff so I had to bring up
> > HELP to see what it was.  :)
> 
> "<<" means bit shifting. "<<8" leads to the same
> result as a
> multiplication with 256. But someone told me it is
> much faster (?).

Speed isn't too bad for GFA until you get down to
using that ~setpixel a lot.  :)

> 
> 
> > Okay, the 154 is required on my end !  144 is the
> > "&9x is the NoteOn status" which is correct, but I
> > can't do anything except "&9A", if it's not this,
> > I don't get any sound at all, the "A" is required
> !
> 
> Try to run the gm_reset thing before you start your
> prg. The only reason
> I could imagine is that the volumes of the other
> channels are down.

* Will try out the GM_RESET program, thanks !
? Question: if the GM_RESET fixes MIDI, shouldn't I
  call it every single time PRIOR to playing a MIDI
  via MCI$ ?

> 
>  
> > 5 things then,
> > 1) Is there a way to turn off all the notes just
> >    by feeding a value into MIDIMSG ?
> 
> There is a Mastervolume Universal Realtime System
> Exclusive Message
> defined with the so called GS standard. That is
> developed by Roland and
> is an extended GM standard. Even when GS is a
> reserved brand a lot of
> nonGS cards can interpret some GS stuff. But I thing
> you don't want to
> go this way...

Okay, no global volume off
> 
> 
> > 2) What are the different commands I can feed in
> then
> > ?
> Use volume (ctrl 7) or better expression (ctrl 11).
> By defenition (for
> midi files) volume should set the init mixdown while
> expression change
> the loudness in during the playback. That makes an
> adaption to different
> equipment more easy. The default value of expression
> after an init reset
> is 100, but send it at start with the volume
> control. You have to fade
> for each playing channel.
> 
> 
> >    if &9A plays a note, how do I stop it ?
> >    Especially since I can't change the "A" at all
> to
> >    any channel # !
> Send a NoteOn with velocity "0"
> 
> MidiMsg%=&7F3C92     // starts the tone
> MidiMsg%=&3C92       // stops it

^ This is important..  Okay, keeping in my notes..

> 
> 
> 
> > 3) Knowing that command &CA is for changing the
> >    instrument, are there additional commands
> besides
> >    this ?
> A lot. People wrote books about it. But this a
> programmers ML and not a
> midi ML. In any dark corner of my harddrive whiles
> an ascii file with
> all that. I will send you private after I found it.

Well..  If they're non-standard, maybe it wouldn't
be good..

> 
> (But &CA changes the instrument of channel 11. It's
> the same as with
> notes: &C0 || Channel)
> 
> 
> > 4) Is the "A" perhaps a checksum for the totals ?
> 
> Definitely not.
> 
>  
> > 5) Is there a "pure" number I can feed into
> MIDIMSG
> >    that resets everything so almost every MIDI
> card
> >    will behave the same way perhaps limiting my
> >    options, but expanding compatibility ?
> 
> The longMessage GM reset is the only way to
> happiness.

Okay.  I haven't sat down to look at the source to
your GM Reset yet, but I see I need to if I want to
include it in the Pyramax Library.

Okay, Thanks Mr. Loock !  :)

Sincerely,
David W.

> 
> 
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List Member "John Findlay" <John.Findlay@Byte-it.net> wrote:
David,

> Speed isn't too bad for GFA until you get down to
> using that ~setpixel a lot.  :)

Just so you know, ~SetPixel() & ~GetPixel() are system API calls not GFA
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:-)

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> 
> --- Roland Walter <roland@rowalt.de> wrote:
> > List Member "Roland Walter" <roland@rowalt.de>
> > wrote:
> > 'Beispiel fr die Nutzung der Sprach-Engine Monlogue
> > fr Windows

Oh, shit!
I had crossposted 2 mails. The real receiver of
the text above did receive what I wanted to post here:

There was a bug in my last Sokoban version I now
have corrected. (It was impossible to restart a level
after quitting and restarting the program.)
The new version 1.2 is available at my homepage.
http://www.rowalt.de/gfabasic/ (Section "listings")

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--- John Findlay <John.Findlay@Byte-it.net> wrote:
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> <John.Findlay@Byte-it.net> wrote:
> David,
> 
> > Speed isn't too bad for GFA until you get down to
> > using that ~setpixel a lot.  :)
> 
> Just so you know, ~SetPixel() & ~GetPixel() are
> system API calls not GFA
> commands.
> 
> :-)
> 
> John

Well John,
They both work and plot a pixel.  They both work
in GFA.  Ahhhm, looks like a command, smells like
a command, even tastes like a command, but it's not,
it's Parkay !

Doesn't really matter, I use jam on my toast
anyways.  :)

Oftentimes if something works in a language, even
if the language itself is not providing the "command"
I use it.  I rarely ever ask why, I just have fun !
^o^

Mind you, a helpful instructions on all of the
interesting "~" System API commands and the non- "~"
System API functions would be helpful, and I'm not
talking just example, I want a definition of the
fool thing, its arguments, contractions, syntax,
usage, structure, variables, information, and
arguments.  :)

Sincerely,
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List Member "Russell Hayward" <russ@softhome.net> wrote:

Hi David,

> Mind you, a helpful instructions on all of the
> interesting "~" System API commands and the non- "~"
> System API functions would be helpful, and I'm not
> talking just example, I want a definition of the
> fool thing, its arguments, contractions, syntax,
> usage, structure, variables, information, and
> arguments.  :)

You already have it, the Windows 3.1 SDK (win31wh.hlp). The ~ is the GFA
command VOID meaning ignore result.

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:


--- Russell Hayward <russ@softhome.net> wrote:
> List Member "Russell Hayward" <russ@softhome.net>
> wrote:
> 
> Hi David,
> 
> > Mind you, a helpful instructions on all of the
> > interesting "~" System API commands and the non-
> "~"
> > System API functions would be helpful, and I'm not
> > talking just example, I want a definition of the
> > fool thing, its arguments, contractions, syntax,
> > usage, structure, variables, information, and
> > arguments.  :)

Oh..  Okay Russell.  You're right.
I tried searching for "~" first, didn't come up,
so then Dale's help file, it came up ahhhm sorta.  :)

Okay, this is good.

Well, as simple a problem as this is I'm not solving
it.  I'd like to open up a file preferably in
"U" format, for update and be able to read a byte of
it, and write a byte to the same file at a different
location.  I've poked thru 10 GFA demo programs
with no luck.

In QBasic, it's: OPEN "b",1,"file.dat"
but for GFA, it's: OPEN "u",#1,"file.dat"

but where do you go from there ?
The HELP on OPEN doesn't describe Update at all.  :/

Sincerely,
David W.

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It means >>close<<

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What I get doesn't make sense!
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List Member "B.M.C.S." <bmcs@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Well, as simple a problem as this is I'm not solving it.  I'd like to open
up a file preferably in "U" format, for update and be able to read a byte of
it, and write a byte to the same file at a different location.  I've poked
thru 10 GFA demo programs with no luck.
In QBasic, it's: OPEN "b",1,"file.dat"
but for GFA, it's: OPEN "u",#1,"file.dat"
but where do you go from there ?

David,

You don't need to know anything about the "U" format, just as long as the
file exists, it hasn't been opened by another program and you remember the
file pointer will be pointing to the start of the file. After that you can
do whatever the hell you wish with a file opened this way.

Take a look at the examples in the "GFAWIN.HLP" file (This is the GFA Help
File, NOT Dale's Help File), under the headings SEEK, RELSEEK, OUT #,
INP(#n), LOC(#1).

Personally, I think the GFA's internal file commands are a load of BS. If
you are going to do any serious file manipulation use the Windows API
commands. GFA file commands ultimately use the API, so why not go there
first.

Dave Barton

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List Member "John Findlay" <John.Findlay@Byte-it.net> wrote:
Roland,

> Oh, shit!

No worries! :)

> Sokoban version I now have corrected.

I think your Sokoban demo is very nice; a good example.
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A question for you; do you know (is there a way) how to convert a 32 bit
address to a 16 bit address?

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List Member "John Findlay" <John.Findlay@Byte-it.net> wrote:

David,

> Mind you, a helpful instructions on all of the
> interesting "~" System API commands and the non- "~"
> System API functions would be helpful

There are (I believe) about 700 API's for Win3.1 that you can use. Don't
ignore then, much good work can be achieved using API's.

Concerning plotting; I've told you before but you appeared to ignore what
was said. However, here it is once again in the hope you will do something
useful with it.

You cannot poke directly to the screen in Windows (DirectX you can). There
is
a way of speeding up rendering though by manipulating (poke-ing) the bits of
a bitmap and then blitting it to the display. Neither can you poke directly
to a bitmap, first you need to get the bits using GetBitmapBits(), do your
stuff and then use SetBitmapBits() to but the bits back, then blit to
display.

Fog, Plasma, etc, etc. :-)


Regards,

John







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List Member "Roland Walter" <roland@rowalt.de> wrote:
Hallo,
In attachement You will find an example listing
for a speech engine which is able to speak some
text via soundcard.
This is the extended english commented version
of the listing I had posted by mistake to
the GFA Basic list. I did not like that anybody
will die by curiosity ;-)

Have fun with the listing,
By, Roland





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List Member "Roland Walter" <roland@rowalt.de> wrote:

> A question for you; do you know (is there a way) how to convert a 32 bit
> address to a 16 bit address?

Momently not. If You import 32 bit functions this is normally
done by the WOW function parameters automaticly.
If a 32 bit program likes to give data to a 16 bit program
there are 2 ways I think: First is to use DDE and second is
to use the (32 bit) function 
{HYPERLINK "genthunk_3rp2.htm"}WOWGlobalAlloc16().

But if You are outside the 32 bit application (in a 16 bit listing) 
only I don't know. Also do not forget that each 32 bit application
has it's own virtual address room.

Bye, Roland


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List Member "John Findlay" <John.Findlay@Byte-it.net> wrote:
> Momently not.

Ok, thanks anyway.

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:


--- "B.M.C.S." <bmcs@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
> List Member "B.M.C.S." <bmcs@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
> List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Well, as simple a problem as this is I'm not solving
> it.  I'd like to open
> up a file preferably in "U" format, for update and
> be able to read a byte of
> it, and write a byte to the same file at a different
> location.  I've poked
> thru 10 GFA demo programs with no luck.
> In QBasic, it's: OPEN "b",1,"file.dat"
> but for GFA, it's: OPEN "u",#1,"file.dat"
> but where do you go from there ?
> 
> David,
> 
> You don't need to know anything about the "U"
> format, just as long as the
> file exists, it hasn't been opened by another
> program and you remember the
> file pointer will be pointing to the start of the
> file. After that you can
> do whatever the hell you wish with a file opened
> this way.
> 
> Take a look at the examples in the "GFAWIN.HLP" file
> (This is the GFA Help
> File, NOT Dale's Help File), under the headings
> SEEK, RELSEEK, OUT #,
> INP(#n), LOC(#1).
> 
> Personally, I think the GFA's internal file commands
> are a load of BS. If
> you are going to do any serious file manipulation
> use the Windows API
> commands. GFA file commands ultimately use the API,
> so why not go there
> first.
> 
> Dave Barton

Hey Dave, Thanks !

Actually it's much easier then this, I was making
it too complex !

open"u",1,"matrix.dat"
WHILE EOF(1)=0
  SEEK A(N)
  C$=INPUT$(1,1)
  SEEK B(N)
  PRINT#1,C$;
  N++
WEND
CLOSE

Where you can SEEK 0 to the filesize - 1
Nice Job GFA !
I was trying all kinds of screwy things..
BGET, BPUT, INP, OUT, Auggh !

Didn't need any of that, just INPUT$ and PRINT#

:)

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:


--- John Findlay <John.Findlay@Byte-it.net> wrote:
> List Member "John Findlay"
> <John.Findlay@Byte-it.net> wrote:
> 
> David,
> 
> > Mind you, a helpful instructions on all of the
> > interesting "~" System API commands and the non-
> "~"
> > System API functions would be helpful
> 
> There are (I believe) about 700 API's for Win3.1
> that you can use. Don't
> ignore then, much good work can be achieved using
> API's.
> 
> Concerning plotting; I've told you before but you
> appeared to ignore what
> was said. However, here it is once again in the hope
> you will do something
> useful with it.
> 
> You cannot poke directly to the screen in Windows
> (DirectX you can). There
> is
> a way of speeding up rendering though by
> manipulating (poke-ing) the bits of
> a bitmap and then blitting it to the display.
> Neither can you poke directly
> to a bitmap, first you need to get the bits using
> GetBitmapBits(), do your
> stuff and then use SetBitmapBits() to but the bits
> back, then blit to
> display.
> 
> Fog, Plasma, etc, etc. :-)
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> John

Greets John..  Okay, well it works but =BOY= is it
slow !

8< - - - - - <SNIP!>

DEFINT "A-Z"

' Quick ?? (yah right!) :/ Plotter
' I've only tested it in my screen GrDepth=2 so it may
not work in others !

OPENW #1,_X \ 2 - 200,_Y \ 2 - 150,400,300,0
IF _C = 256 THEN GrDepth = 1
IF _C = 65536 THEN GrDepth = 2
IF _C = 196608 THEN GrDepth = 3
IF _C = 262144 THEN GrDepth = 4
N = (_X + 1) * (_Y + 1) * GrDepth
DIM GrScreen|(N)
GET 0,0,_X,_Y,BMP
DO
  ~GetBitmapBits(BMP,N,V:GrScreen|(0))
  FOR I = 0 TO _Y - 1
    FOR J = 0 TO _X - 1
      PST J,I,(J * 2 + I),(J + I) * 2,(J + I * 2)
    NEXT J
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      PUT 0,0,BMP
    ENDIF
    K$ = INKEY$
  EXIT IF K$ > ""
  NEXT I
  FREEBMP BMP
LOOP UNTIL K$ > ""
CLOSEW #1

PROCEDURE PST(H,V,R,G,B)
  LOCAL X
  X = (_X + 1) * GrDepth
  IF GrDepth = 1

    GrScreen|(H + V * X) = GETNEAREST(R,G,B)
' ^ Tested but still slow !

  ELSE IF GrDepth = 2

    GrScreen|(H * 2 + V * X) = ((B >> 3) * 2048 + (G
>> 2) * 32 + (R >> 3)) MOD 256
    GrScreen|(H * 2 + V * X + 1) = ((B >> 3) * 2048 +
(G >> 2) * 32 + (R >> 3)) \ 256
    ' ^ Auggggh !  These were hell to figure out by
tinkering !  :)

  ELSE IF GrDepth = 3

    GrScreen|(H * 3 + V * X) = R
    GrScreen|(H * 3 + V * X + 1) = G
    GrScreen|(H * 3 + V * X + 2) = B
' ^ UNTESTED !

  ELSE IF GrDepth = 4

    GrScreen|(H * 4 + V * X) = R
    GrScreen|(H * 4 + V * X + 1) = G
    GrScreen|(H * 4 + V * X + 2) = B
    GrScreen|(H * 4 + V * X + 3) = 0
' ^ UNTESTED !

  ENDIF
RETURN

8< - - - - - <SNIP!>

And it's complex too !  I daresay this is as
fast or slower than SetPixel, any ideas ??

Hey don't hit me, it's my first attempt okay ??
:)

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:


--- Roland Walter <roland@rowalt.de> wrote:
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> Hallo,
> In attachement You will find an example listing
> for a speech engine which is able to speak some
> text via soundcard.
> This is the extended english commented version
> of the listing I had posted by mistake to
> the GFA Basic list. I did not like that anybody
> will die by curiosity ;-)
> 
> Have fun with the listing,
> By, Roland

What ?  It requires commercial .DLL files ?
And I was all set to see a good program that spoke
somehow using MIDI instruments as its phonemes.  :)

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member Engelbert van Loock <Engelbert.v@n.loock.com> wrote:
> As incredible as this may sound.  I think I
> understand !  A little... !  :)

Great!


> Okay, &H90 comes back as 144, this means that
> &H90-&H9F means to go to Channel # 0-15, of the MIDI,
> right ?

Right!


> Drums ??  Urrrggh..  Didn't they set it so you can
> put any instrument on any channel ?

No. You have additional percussion sounds for the other channels, but
the complete drum sets are only available on channel 10.


> Speed isn't too bad for GFA until you get down to
> using that ~setpixel a lot.  :)

This is discussed enough



> * Will try out the GM_RESET program, thanks !
> ? Question: if the GM_RESET fixes MIDI, shouldn't I
>   call it every single time PRIOR to playing a MIDI
>   via MCI$ ?

It is a good idea to do so if you want to write your own midi file
player. Midi files should have theire own GM resets at the beginning and
the end, but in real live they often have not.


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List Member "Eberhard Funck" <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de> wrote:
Hi,

In Win9x only it gives the "Win32s16.dll" wirth two functions for this
problem:

DLL #1, "win32s16.dll"
   DECL LONG UTLinearToSelectorOffset(L)
   DECL LONG UTSelectorOffsetToLinear(L)
ENDDLL

First function change a 32 address (flat pointer) to a 16 bit address.
The second function change the 16 bit address to a 32 bit address

This DLL is not in NT avaible!!!!

Greetings

Eberhard






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|> A question for you; do you know (is there a way) how to convert a 32 bit
|> address to a 16 bit address?
|
|Momently not. If You import 32 bit functions this is normally
|done by the WOW function parameters automaticly.
|If a 32 bit program likes to give data to a 16 bit program
|there are 2 ways I think: First is to use DDE and second is
|to use the (32 bit) function
|{HYPERLINK "genthunk_3rp2.htm"}WOWGlobalAlloc16().
|
|But if You are outside the 32 bit application (in a 16 bit listing)
|only I don't know. Also do not forget that each 32 bit application
|has it's own virtual address room.
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--- Engelbert van Loock <Engelbert.v@n.Loock.com>
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> > As incredible as this may sound.  I think I
> > understand !  A little... !  :)
> 
> Great!
> 
> 
> > Okay, &H90 comes back as 144, this means that
> > &H90-&H9F means to go to Channel # 0-15, of the
> MIDI,
> > right ?
> 
> Right!

So why will mine only take Channel # 10 ?

> 
> 
> > Drums ??  Urrrggh..  Didn't they set it so you can
> > put any instrument on any channel ?
> 
> No. You have additional percussion sounds for the
> other channels, but
> the complete drum sets are only available on channel
> 10.

* Okay, well, they aren't really needed.
  There's enough good drums in the default MIDI
  library.

> 
> 
> > Speed isn't too bad for GFA until you get down to
> > using that ~setpixel a lot.  :)
> 
> This is discussed enough

* The squeaky wheel gets the oil !  :)

> 
> 
> 
> > * Will try out the GM_RESET program, thanks !
> > ? Question: if the GM_RESET fixes MIDI, shouldn't
> I
> >   call it every single time PRIOR to playing a
> MIDI
> >   via MCI$ ?
> 
> It is a good idea to do so if you want to write your
> own midi file
> player. Midi files should have theire own GM resets
> at the beginning and
> the end, but in real live they often have not.

Okay, I've included your routine
(which I am 100% clueless as to what is going on it)
inside new Wind Chimes.

So you're saying then that in Wind Chimes, when it
changes to a new octave, the old one continues to
play ?

Oh, and the new "rain" instrument is not nearly as
good as the one that repeats forever.

Sincerely,
David W.

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> List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Greets John..  Okay, well it works but =BOY= is it
> slow !

Not if you do it right. Not bad for a first try though;

1. First off, don't use LONG's where you don't have to. (slow for 16 bit)

2. Use ADD DIV MUL etc because GFA does floating point math otherwise.

3. I wouldn't display it until it's finished.

4. In it's present state (but only displaying at the end and Compiled with
the true compiler it takes about 0.33 secs on my machine (200 mmx). Not bad!

You will find quite a few ways to speed it up if you try. Russell is an
expert, ask him.

The compiled version I've sent has the main loop changed thus; no need for
PEEKEVENT if it only takes about 0.3 secs.

$ABIG GrScreen|()    ' Needed for compiled version otherwise 'crash'
DIM GrScreen|(N%)
GET 0,0,_X,_Y,BMP%
t% = TIMER
~GetBitmapBits(BMP%,N%,V:GrScreen|(0))
FOR I% = 0 TO _Y - 1
  FOR J% = 0 TO _X - 1
    PST J%,I%,(J% * 2 + I%),(J% + I%) * 2,(J% + I% * 2)
  NEXT J%
NEXT I%
~SetBitmapBits(BMP%,N%,V:GrScreen|(0))
PUT 0,0,BMP%
PRINT TIMER - t%
FREEBMP BMP%
KEYGET I%
CLOSEW #1

Regards,

John

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Okay, my new masterpiece !

This is still too slow for plotting,
am I pushing the edge of the envelope now ??

PROCEDURE HyperPset(H,V,R,G,B)
  DPOKE V:GrScreen|(H * 2 + V * (_X + 1) * 2),(R >> 3)
+ ((G >> 2) << 5) + ((B >> 3) << 11)
RETURN

Man me figuring out all the math in this is starting
to creep in to my brain !  :)

=IS= there a faster way ?

And no, change the "+" pluses to "|" or, isn't much
faster and the colors degrade heavily.

I must admit, this is
speedy, but requires the use of 16-bit screen only.
I can check to see if someone is 16 bit and not
allow the running of it, but isn't that a little
non-user friendly ?  ^o^

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List Member "John Findlay" <John.Findlay@Byte-it.net> wrote:
> List Member "Eberhard Funck" <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> In Win9x only it gives the "Win32s16.dll" wirth two functions for this
> problem:
> 
> DLL #1, "win32s16.dll"
>    DECL LONG UTLinearToSelectorOffset(L)
>    DECL LONG UTSelectorOffsetToLinear(L)
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> First function change a 32 address (flat pointer) to a 16 bit address.
> The second function change the 16 bit address to a 32 bit address

Thanks Eberhard.

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List Member "John Findlay" <John.Findlay@Byte-it.net> wrote:
David,

Just compiled your little listing using ~SetPixel() - it took 0.73 secs
compared to 0.33 so there has been an increase in speed, about double. If
you make the changes that were suggested in the last message it may come
down by another 30% or so.

Other things you can do like only calculate once not twice, getting max
speed requires tweaking like that;

  ELSE IF GrDepth% = 2
    xx% = H% * 2 + V% * X%
    GrScreen|(xx%) = ((B% >> 3) * 2048 + . . .
    GrScreen|(xx% + 1) = ((B% >> 3) * 2048 + . . .
    ' ^ Auggggh !  These were hell to figure out by tinkering !  :)

> =IS= there a faster way ?

Yes, use assembler. If that's not fast enough you will have to use
assembler. No, I'm not kidding you.

> I must admit, this is
> speedy, but requires the use of 16-bit screen only.
> I can check to see if someone is 16 bit and not
> allow the running of it, but isn't that a little
> non-user friendly ?  ^o^

Of course, you have to use other code if the display is not 16 bit.

By using ADD, MUL etc you will save about 10%, using WORD's and/or BYTE's
you will save maybe another 20%.

Other than that you are stymied.

Good luck

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--- John Findlay <John.Findlay@Byte-it.net> wrote:
> 
> > List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> > Greets John..  Okay, well it works but =BOY= is it
> > slow !
> 
> Not if you do it right. Not bad for a first try
> though;

* Thanks !

> 
> 1. First off, don't use LONG's where you don't have
> to. (slow for 16 bit)

* Okay, so that's DEFWRD then.. (checking..)
> 
> 2. Use ADD DIV MUL etc because GFA does floating
> point math otherwise.

* Okay, I've got DEFINT "A-Z" in the beginning.
  Does this force computations to integer math ?

> 
> 3. I wouldn't display it until it's finished.

* Okay, I updated it for that too.

> 
> 4. In it's present state (but only displaying at the
> end and Compiled with
> the true compiler it takes about 0.33 secs on my
> machine (200 mmx). Not bad!
> 
> You will find quite a few ways to speed it up if you
> try. Russell is an
> expert, ask him.

Russell sent me a very complex program to demonstrate
fast pixel plotting but it used the
TYPE BITMAP:
- WORD bmType, bmWidth, bmHeight, bmWidthBytes
- BYTE bmPlanes, bmBitsPixel
- LONG bmBits
ENDTYPE
BITMAP: bm.

(And I don't have any idea how types work at all)

and:
~GetBitmapBits(Bmp, bm.bmWidthBytes*bm.bmHeight
,V:Buffer|(0))

Which referred to the record, over my head.
I'm pleased that I can use GET to initialize a
dummy bitmap.

I have noticed that if you load a bitmap that does
not match the screen's # of bits, it will increase
or decrease the size of the bitmap in its head.

So even loading a 8-bit bitmap isn't faster, because
it is translated internally to 16-bit or whatever
the screen is set to.  Soooo, I can't use just
one type of plotter.

Russell had a 15 bit screen choice available in
his choices.  What is this ?  5x5x5 RxGxB ?
(I'm just guessing now)
 
> The compiled version I've sent has the main loop
> changed thus; no need for
> PEEKEVENT if it only takes about 0.3 secs.
> 
> $ABIG GrScreen|()    ' Needed for compiled version
> otherwise 'crash'
> DIM GrScreen|(N%)
> GET 0,0,_X,_Y,BMP%
> t% = TIMER
> ~GetBitmapBits(BMP%,N%,V:GrScreen|(0))
> FOR I% = 0 TO _Y - 1
>   FOR J% = 0 TO _X - 1
>     PST J%,I%,(J% * 2 + I%),(J% + I%) * 2,(J% + I% *
> 2)
>   NEXT J%
> NEXT I%
> ~SetBitmapBits(BMP%,N%,V:GrScreen|(0))
> PUT 0,0,BMP%
> PRINT TIMER - t%
> FREEBMP BMP%
> KEYGET I%
> CLOSEW #1
> 
> Regards,
> 
> John

Okay John, now I've got something to be envious
about !  :>

Maaaan that is so fast it's marvelous !
Is that using the routine I wrote or with the
change added in HyperPixel ?

DPOKE V:GrScreen|(H * 2 + V * (_X + 1) * 2),(R >> 3) +
((G >> 2) << 5) + ((B >> 3) << 11)

In any case, if I can achieve and exceed or maintain
this speed, I came make some =VERY= good
screen-teasers
that require multiple frames of updating per second.

No real speed difference from here by defining
individual variables as Short Integer, or merely
using "DEFWRD A-Z" .

The most impressive one I can think of right now
is FireBall.  Dale saw my Pascal .EXE of it, ask
him about it.  :)  Also SnowFlakes that take every
single pixel on the screen (preferably someone's
name enlarged) and turns them into drifting
snowflakes.

Running it in immediate mode, I get: 2166
Running it as a .DLL dependable .EXE, I get: 1999
Running it with DEFINT instead of DEFWRD: 2125
As a .DLL dependent .EXE for DEFINT: 1984

It seems like DEFINT is faster then DEFWRD ?
Please let me know how fast it was on the compiler
in both DEFINT and DEFWRD and if this coding is as
tight and fast as it can possibly get now.

Dad has all ready sent off for the compiler so
hopefully I'll receive it this month !

New pixel example:
[enclosed]

Thanks !

Sincerely,
David W.

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DEFINT "A-Z"
' * * * The Quest For The Fastest Pixel !
' ^ DEFWRD used instead of DEFINT, is supposed to be faster

$ABIG GrScreen|()
' ^ Needed for compiler because of its size

' + Made faster computations in PST HyperPixel
' + Assuming 16-bit screen only

OPENW #1,_X \ 2 - 200,_Y \ 2 - 150,400,300,0

N = (_X + 1) * (_Y + 1) * 2
' ^ "" required because it is bigger than 32767 for short integer

DIM GrScreen|(N)
GET 0,0,_X,_Y,BMP&
T = TIMER
~GetBitmapBits(BMP&,N,V:GrScreen|(0))
FOR I& = 0 TO _Y - 1
  FOR J& = 0 TO _X - 1
    PST J&,I&,(J& * 2 + I&),(J& + I&) * 2,(J& + I& * 2)
  NEXT J&
NEXT I&
~SetBitmapBits(BMP&,N,V:GrScreen|(0))
PUT 0,0,BMP&,PSET&
PRINT TIMER - T
FREEBMP BMP&
KEYGET Z&
CLOSEW #1

PROCEDURE PST(H&,V&,R&,G&,B&)
  DPOKE V:GrScreen|(H& * 2 + V& * (_X + 1) * 2),(R& >> 3) + ((G& >> 2) << 5) + ((B& >> 3) << 11)
RETURN


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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Okay, well let me not dismiss the possibility of
machine-language !

Now I have totally zero clue about how it's done.

Has anyone written or =CAN= anyone PLEASE write a
routine that uses the following arguments ?

XUpdate(DC(-1),H,V,X,Y,OsX,OsY,V:GrScreen,
        CopyType)

DC(-1) is the default display

H & V are the coordinates to START plotting this
graphic block from.

X & Y are the length across and down for the graphic
block plot size, there is no difficulty in them
being smaller than the actual size of the array
GrScreen.  By selecting smaller regions and using
OffsetX & OffsetY, parallax scrolling is introduced.

OsX & OsY are the OffsetX and OffsetY position to
start READING pixels from the data in byte array
GrScreen(), this is useful for parallax scrolling
fields

GrScreen() is a long integer array that can be any
number of elements big for X & Y.  Its actual contents
are a 24 bit long true 64 million single color pixel.

GrScreen(XAcross,YDown), approx. ranges are:
XAcross= 0 - 639, YDown= 0 - 479

So, to set the color purple in the center of the
screen, having already done:

DIM GrScreen(_X,_Y)

You would do:

GrScreen(_X\2,_Y\2)=RGB(255,0,255)

To flash update the screen,

~XUpdate(_DC(-1),0,0,_X,_Y,0,0,V:GrScreen,SRCCOPY)
~XUpdate(L,W,W,W,W,W,W,L,L)

Naturally, this machine-language routine would work
under any screen, any resolution, with any number of
color bits at any time.

Soooo how hard is this to write ??  :) 

> David,
> 
> Just compiled your little listing using ~SetPixel()
> - it took 0.73 secs
> compared to 0.33 so there has been an increase in
> speed, about double. If
> you make the changes that were suggested in the last
> message it may come
> down by another 30% or so.
> 
> Other things you can do like only calculate once not
> twice, getting max
> speed requires tweaking like that;
> 
>   ELSE IF GrDepth% = 2
>     xx% = H% * 2 + V% * X%
>     GrScreen|(xx%) = ((B% >> 3) * 2048 + . . .
>     GrScreen|(xx% + 1) = ((B% >> 3) * 2048 + . . .
>     ' ^ Auggggh !  These were hell to figure out by
> tinkering !  :)
> 
> > =IS= there a faster way ?
> 
> Yes, use assembler. If that's not fast enough you
> will have to use
> assembler. No, I'm not kidding you.

* See above !  :)

> Of course, you have to use other code if the display
> is not 16 bit.
> 
> By using ADD, MUL etc you will save about 10%, using
> WORD's and/or BYTE's
> you will save maybe another 20%.
> 
> Other than that you are stymied.
> 
> Good luck

* Thanks !

> 
> Regards,
> 
> John

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member "John Findlay" <John.Findlay@Byte-it.net> wrote:
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David,

> * Okay, I've got DEFINT "A-Z" in the beginning.
>   Does this force computations to integer math ?

No.

> Russell sent me a very complex program to demonstrate
> fast pixel plotting but it used the
> TYPE BITMAP:
> - WORD bmType, bmWidth, bmHeight, bmWidthBytes
> - BYTE bmPlanes, bmBitsPixel
> - LONG bmBits
> ENDTYPE
> BITMAP: bm.
> Which referred to the record, over my head.
> I'm pleased that I can use GET to initialize a
> dummy bitmap.

Sure. You will learn about TYPE's, soon. :-)

> So even loading a 8-bit bitmap isn't faster, because
> it is translated internally to 16-bit or whatever
> the screen is set to.  Soooo, I can't use just
> one type of plotter.

Correct.

> What is this ?  5x5x5 RxGxB ?
> (I'm just guessing now)

You can have 15 bit RGB555 or 16 bit RGB565 for 16 bit displays. 555 is 32k
colours, 565 is 64k colours. Different screen modes.

> Maaaan that is so fast it's marvelous !
> Is that using the routine I wrote or with the
> change added in HyperPixel ?

No. I've sent the lastest, it's much faster. 0.088 secs, faster than you
thought, eh? And me!

> No real speed difference from here by defining
> individual variables as Short Integer, or merely
> using "DEFWRD A-Z" .

Why should there be, it means the same. When you get the true compiler you
can do some proper tests.

That's all from this end.

John





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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Boy, that is fast!!
Where's the code?(G)

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Subject: Re: [gfabasic] Storm Of The Century


> David,
>
> > * Okay, I've got DEFINT "A-Z" in the beginning.
> >   Does this force computations to integer math ?
>
> No.
>
> > Russell sent me a very complex program to demonstrate
> > fast pixel plotting but it used the
> > TYPE BITMAP:
> > - WORD bmType, bmWidth, bmHeight, bmWidthBytes
> > - BYTE bmPlanes, bmBitsPixel
> > - LONG bmBits
> > ENDTYPE
> > BITMAP: bm.
> > Which referred to the record, over my head.
> > I'm pleased that I can use GET to initialize a
> > dummy bitmap.
>
> Sure. You will learn about TYPE's, soon. :-)
>
> > So even loading a 8-bit bitmap isn't faster, because
> > it is translated internally to 16-bit or whatever
> > the screen is set to.  Soooo, I can't use just
> > one type of plotter.
>
> Correct.
>
> > What is this ?  5x5x5 RxGxB ?
> > (I'm just guessing now)
>
> You can have 15 bit RGB555 or 16 bit RGB565 for 16 bit displays. 555 is
32k
> colours, 565 is 64k colours. Different screen modes.
>
> > Maaaan that is so fast it's marvelous !
> > Is that using the routine I wrote or with the
> > change added in HyperPixel ?
>
> No. I've sent the lastest, it's much faster. 0.088 secs, faster than you
> thought, eh? And me!
>
> > No real speed difference from here by defining
> > individual variables as Short Integer, or merely
> > using "DEFWRD A-Z" .
>
> Why should there be, it means the same. When you get the true compiler you
> can do some proper tests.
>
> That's all from this end.
>
> John
>
>
>
>
>



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From: Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: [gfabasic] AW: translate, please
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Thank you.  Is what I *thought*, but couldn't get there.
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At 08:01 AM 06/04/00 +0200, you wrote:
>List Member "Schoenherr, Walter" <Walter.Schoenherr@PZN-Wiesloch.de> wrote:
>It means >>close<<
>
>-----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----
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>Gesendet am: Donnerstag, 6. April 2000 02:51
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>Betreff: [gfabasic] translate, please
>
>List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>Schlie=DFen
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>What I get doesn't make sense!
>TomR.
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:


--- John Findlay <John.Findlay@Byte-it.net> wrote:
> David,
> 
> > * Okay, I've got DEFINT "A-Z" in the beginning.
> >   Does this force computations to integer math ?
> 
> No.
> 
> > Russell sent me a very complex program to
> demonstrate
> > fast pixel plotting but it used the
> > TYPE BITMAP:
> > - WORD bmType, bmWidth, bmHeight, bmWidthBytes
> > - BYTE bmPlanes, bmBitsPixel
> > - LONG bmBits
> > ENDTYPE
> > BITMAP: bm.
> > Which referred to the record, over my head.
> > I'm pleased that I can use GET to initialize a
> > dummy bitmap.
> 
> Sure. You will learn about TYPE's, soon. :-)
> 
> > So even loading a 8-bit bitmap isn't faster,
> because
> > it is translated internally to 16-bit or whatever
> > the screen is set to.  Soooo, I can't use just
> > one type of plotter.
> 
> Correct.
> 
> > What is this ?  5x5x5 RxGxB ?
> > (I'm just guessing now)
> 
> You can have 15 bit RGB555 or 16 bit RGB565 for 16
> bit displays. 555 is 32k
> colours, 565 is 64k colours. Different screen modes.
> 
> > Maaaan that is so fast it's marvelous !
> > Is that using the routine I wrote or with the
> > change added in HyperPixel ?
> 
> No. I've sent the lastest, it's much faster. 0.088
> secs, faster than you
> thought, eh? And me!
> 
> > No real speed difference from here by defining
> > individual variables as Short Integer, or merely
> > using "DEFWRD A-Z" .
> 
> Why should there be, it means the same. When you get
> the true compiler you
> can do some proper tests.
> 
> That's all from this end.
> 
> John

Well, that's pretty amazing !  If there is any
difference in the source code for the .EXE you sent
me, please post it, if there are no differences, and
the raw speed is attained merely by a decent compiler,
I can't =WAIT= for the compiler to arrive !!  :)

It seems I'll be able to make my own pixel library
as well, introducing true brightness shifts, plasma,
fog, quantization, color morph, the works.

I've always noticed most RPGs, even on Playstation,
when a sprite fades in, it is always brighter then
it is actually supposed to be, and once it finishes
fading, it snaps to the correct color, looks nice if
it was a ghost sprite, but its not.  I'll get a
chance to make a proper sprite fader finally !

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:


--- Dale Bryant <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com>
> wrote:
> Boy, that is fast!!
> Where's the code?(G)
> 
> Dale Bryant

Hey Dale !  That's gonna be kids stuff once I
get the compiler.  Write my own complete graphic
library.  :)

If you haven't already done so, please update all
the files I sent earlier, including Mr. Magnify,
if there are no difficulties.

Thanks !

Sincerely,
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List Member "John Findlay" <John.Findlay@Byte-it.net> wrote:
> List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> Boy, that is fast!!
> Where's the code?(G)

One of David's attachments; 'Quick.lst'

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
quick.lst never showed up here.
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At 08:52 AM 07/04/00 +0100, you wrote:
>List Member "John Findlay" <John.Findlay@Byte-it.net> wrote:
>> List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
>> Boy, that is fast!!
>> Where's the code?(G)
>
>One of David's attachments; 'Quick.lst'
>
>John
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--- Tom Record
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> List Member Tom Record
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> quick.lst never showed up here.
> <F>
> TomR.

Lots of stuff never showed up, I'm missing about
4 posted messages.  :/

Here's Quick, all cleaned up with sourcecode
notes showing what's going on in it.

Hey Dale, if you like it please post it in the Good
Archives & what about Mr. Magnify ?

Does it work okay, and, if not, please let me know
and I'll see what I can do about it, as well as the
other 9 packages, okay !  :)

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
HI David,
When I run Mr Magnify I get a completely black magnifying glass. Nothing
shows through the glass
Dale.
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Subject: [gfabasic] HyperPixel !


>
>
> --- Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> > List Member Tom Record
> > <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> > quick.lst never showed up here.
> > <F>
> > TomR.
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> Lots of stuff never showed up, I'm missing about
> 4 posted messages.  :/
>
> Here's Quick, all cleaned up with sourcecode
> notes showing what's going on in it.
>
> Hey Dale, if you like it please post it in the Good
> Archives & what about Mr. Magnify ?
>
> Does it work okay, and, if not, please let me know
> and I'll see what I can do about it, as well as the
> other 9 packages, okay !  :)
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Thanks.
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At 06:58 AM 07/04/00 -0700, you wrote:
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>Lots of stuff never showed up, I'm missing about
>4 posted messages.  :/
>
>Here's Quick, all cleaned up with sourcecode
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>
>Hey Dale, if you like it please post it in the Good
>Archives & what about Mr. Magnify ?
>
>Does it work okay, and, if not, please let me know
>and I'll see what I can do about it, as well as the
>other 9 packages, okay !  :)
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>Sincerely,
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:


--- Dale Bryant <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com>
> wrote:
> HI David,
> When I run Mr Magnify I get a completely black
> magnifying glass. Nothing
> shows through the glass
> Dale.
> Dale Bryant

Ouch..  Okay, well this is definitely system
related then.  I'm running a Win98 in 16-bit
screen mode.  What is yours ?

Check this out please,
REM out line # 45 that chooses a new size for
the isolation plotting, if this also doesn't
work, it may have something to do with retrieving
the contents off the true display.

Yah already I'm seeing this might not be possible
for me to fix or understand without an intimate
knowledge level of the computer at a system viewpoint.
:/

Sincerely,
David W.

Do the other ones look okay ?  If so, that's good
then.

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List Member "Bev Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
Hi:

Works great for me; Lou loves it.

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Sent: Friday, April 07, 2000 11:12 AM
Subject: Re: [gfabasic] HyperPixel !


> List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> HI David,
> When I run Mr Magnify I get a completely black magnifying glass. Nothing
> shows through the glass
> Dale.
> Dale Bryant
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> adbryant@gfa.net
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Wicker" <dw817@yahoo.com>
> To: <gfabasic@gfa.net>
> Sent: Friday, April 07, 2000 6:58 AM
> Subject: [gfabasic] HyperPixel !
> 
> 
> >
> >
> > --- Tom Record
> > <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> > > List Member Tom Record
> > > <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> > > quick.lst never showed up here.
> > > <F>
> > > TomR.
> >
> > Lots of stuff never showed up, I'm missing about
> > 4 posted messages.  :/
> >
> > Here's Quick, all cleaned up with sourcecode
> > notes showing what's going on in it.
> >
> > Hey Dale, if you like it please post it in the Good
> > Archives & what about Mr. Magnify ?
> >
> > Does it work okay, and, if not, please let me know
> > and I'll see what I can do about it, as well as the
> > other 9 packages, okay !  :)
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > David W.
> >
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List Member "Bev Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
Hi:

Running the same -- Win98 in 16-bit color!!!

                             -->Bev<--

----- Original Message ----- 
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> List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> --- Dale Bryant <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> > List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com>
> > wrote:
> > HI David,
> > When I run Mr Magnify I get a completely black
> > magnifying glass. Nothing
> > shows through the glass
> > Dale.
> > Dale Bryant
> 
> Ouch..  Okay, well this is definitely system
> related then.  I'm running a Win98 in 16-bit
> screen mode.  What is yours ?
> 
> Check this out please,
> REM out line # 45 that chooses a new size for
> the isolation plotting, if this also doesn't
> work, it may have something to do with retrieving
> the contents off the true display.
> 
> Yah already I'm seeing this might not be possible
> for me to fix or understand without an intimate
> knowledge level of the computer at a system viewpoint.
> :/
> 
> Sincerely,
> David W.
> 
> Do the other ones look okay ?  If so, that's good
> then.
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> List Member "Bev Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com>
> wrote:
> Hi:
> 
> Works great for me; Lou loves it.
> 
>                              -->Bev<--

Thanks, Bev & Lou !
Glad you like it !

Do you think you might know why it's not working
on Dale's computer ?

I gotta bad feeling its gonna be something really
hard to track down because it works on both mine
computer and yours..

Sincerely,
David W.

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--- Bev Brown <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
> List Member "Bev Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com>
> wrote:
> Hi:
> 
> Running the same -- Win98 in 16-bit color!!!
> 
>                              -->Bev<--

Ah, then it must be system related.
Dale, if you can poke it around a bit and see
what's causing the trouble.  I can't, because it
runs here.  And you know I don't really know how
to program anyway (Yah Right!) :) , I just doodle
with something until it works.

Sincerely,
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Hi David,
What is confusing is that the first copy I had worked great.
Dale
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> List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > List Member "Bev Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com>
> > wrote:
> > Hi:
> >
> > Works great for me; Lou loves it.
> >
> >                              -->Bev<--
>
> Thanks, Bev & Lou !
> Glad you like it !
>
> Do you think you might know why it's not working
> on Dale's computer ?
>
> I gotta bad feeling its gonna be something really
> hard to track down because it works on both mine
> computer and yours..
>
> Sincerely,
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Okay, well Dale I'm looking at it and I think I owe
you an apology.  It's pretty screwy looking !
I'm opening up a window only after I pointed to it
(and it's not there), and some other stuff.
Sending you a =CLEAN= copy !

Why it ran the way it did on my computer I have no
idea.  Poking around it a bit more..

Okay, put the OPEN WINDOW before Russell's WindowLock
and free the DC only at the end of the program.

See if this works !

Sincerely,
David W.

Sorry 'bout that !  :)
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> What is confusing is that the first copy I had
> worked great.
> Dale

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> > > Hi:
> > >
> > > Works great for me; Lou loves it.
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
BUBREAKR.ZIP by David Wicker
' WHAT DOES IT DO ??
' Allows you to COMPLETELY remove all .BAK and .TMP
' files from a drive !  Warning !  Some .BAK and .TMP files may be
' needed or required on that drive, exercise caution !
' It also demonstrates how DOSSHELL can retrieve vital information
' about a drive such as # of folders, files, space left, and
' space used, and # of files.

Very well done.  Download it from http://gfawhelp.com


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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi Dale !  Looks good, thanks !  :)
Well, I'm still not 100% satisfied with the way I
have to do a DOS SHELL, (which is to use a low-level
read routine).  I think I can do one in machine-
language.  Now before you get the hives, it won't
be that bad !  And should be quite a bit smaller
then the technique I am using now and will also allow
any DOS SHELL to occur, even ones that don't have
any output to redirect to check for.

Dale, if nothing else with the Update files I sent
you,
please remove Oddlong and replace it with Cookie.

Thanks !

When I get my homepage back in order, I'll keep all
my toys over there so it won't be a problem.  :)

Sincerely,
David W.

--- Dale Bryant <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com>
> wrote:
> BUBREAKR.ZIP by David Wicker
> ' WHAT DOES IT DO ??
> ' Allows you to COMPLETELY remove all .BAK and .TMP
> ' files from a drive !  Warning !  Some .BAK and
> .TMP files may be
> ' needed or required on that drive, exercise caution
> !
> ' It also demonstrates how DOSSHELL can retrieve
> vital information
> ' about a drive such as # of folders, files, space
> left, and
> ' space used, and # of files.
> 
> Very well done.  Download it from
> http://gfawhelp.com


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List Member bdd <BrentDeck@compuserve.com> wrote:
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I had mis-translated  a line from  x11.h, and the result was failure.
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This is another reason that I wish GFA would work toward C/C++
compatibility, at least in
reading  include files.

If I wanted VB  I would buy VB.

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Alas, w/ GFA32 out & running, I seriously doubt GFA is going to do
anything more for GFA-W(16).

To *this* point in time, I've seen only one *.lib, & it works
quite well.  It's Roland's minijpg.lib.  Well, it works well, 
it is just slow.  Came from older *.jpg technology, I think.
I have some DOS appls that read & display *.jpg as fast as
*.bmp, etc., but I haven't been able to con any of those guys 
out of any source code, tho <F>.

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>List Member bdd <BrentDeck@compuserve.com> wrote:
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>I had mis-translated  a line from  x11.h, and the result was failure.
><
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>This is another reason that I wish GFA would work toward C/C++
>compatibility, at least in
>reading  include files.
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>If I wanted VB  I would buy VB.
>
>Brent
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Well, after slaving around machine-language for
a few hours, I see that it is not very Win98
compatible in doing a DOS SHELL.  Soo I spent some
time in Turbo Pascal and finished writing a GFA
DOS SHELL Assistant.  What it does is take over the
DOS SHELLs that GFABasic calls and sends a message
to GFA to let it know when a DOS SHELL is complete
so it runs 100% correctly !

I also spent a bit of time and manually crunched
down PkUnzipJr another 20% !

Since Gredit is starting to fly pretty well now
that the DOS SHELL problem is fixed, I'll probably
add some color to our BIT Basher girl and maybe
put some color in her cheeks and rename it to the
Backup Basher !  :)

The real advantage is I can update all my older
software that had partially working DOS SHELLs with
this correct way to handle them !

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
WinRC302  Version 3.02 Free resource compiler for Visual Basic 4

WinWRC is a free resource compiler for VB4.
It works in Win95, not under DOS.
No needs of RC.EXE, WinWrc compiles itself the resources.
No syntax, simply select the resource and compile the
res-file.
WinWRC accepts Bitmap, Icon, cursor and string resources.
It compiles in 16 or 32 bits mode.

Winwrc302 needs the runtime files of VB4-32.

A 650k *.zip.
<G>
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
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I have FINALLY found a way to do a correct DOS SHELL
in GFABasic that is not system dependent, does not
requires system interrupts, or background .EXE TSRs
like I wrote earlier.  Neither does it rely on low
level hard-drive seeks, pulling out the FAT or the
VTOC.

This technique is very good !
I will use it for =ALL= packages later, it also takes
zero bytes in memory !  :)

Get your copy right here !
Unless there are severe complaints about me not
including both the .GFW and .EXE in my PKZIPs, I
will leave them out in favor of .LST only.

Then I can post DIRECTLY in here to you guys
(and gals) even if Dale is asleep at the switch !
Yah Dale I take an hour nap once a day too !  ^o^

Enjoy !
[enclosed]

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Hi David,
I ran the new version of BUBASHER. It seem to work but I received no number
of files or a prompt if I wanted to delete them The first copy gave those
selections.
I take a nap now!(G)
Dale
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Subject: [gfabasic] Shaking Off The Shackles


> I have FINALLY found a way to do a correct DOS SHELL
> in GFABasic that is not system dependent, does not
> requires system interrupts, or background .EXE TSRs
> like I wrote earlier.  Neither does it rely on low
> level hard-drive seeks, pulling out the FAT or the
> VTOC.
>
> This technique is very good !
> I will use it for =ALL= packages later, it also takes
> zero bytes in memory !  :)
>
> Get your copy right here !
> Unless there are severe complaints about me not
> including both the .GFW and .EXE in my PKZIPs, I
> will leave them out in favor of .LST only.
>
> Then I can post DIRECTLY in here to you guys
> (and gals) even if Dale is asleep at the switch !
> Yah Dale I take an hour nap once a day too !  ^o^
>
> Enjoy !
> [enclosed]
>
> Sincerely,
> David W.
>
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Found a little bug, easy to make and easy to fix.
Go down to line # 400

Insert this line just after the:
PROCEDURE Wipe(F$)

LOCAL T$

I just forgot to put that there and it messes up
the grand total at the bottom without it.

Okay !

Sincerely,
David W.

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--- Dale Bryant <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com>
> wrote:
> Hi David,
> I ran the new version of BUBASHER. It seem to work
> but I received no number
> of files or a prompt if I wanted to delete them The
> first copy gave those
> selections.
> I take a nap now!(G)
> Dale
> Dale Bryant

Huuum ??  It should work, I ran it here just a moment
ago and works fine..  Be sure you're not in a full
screen DOS which always plays havoc with Win98 toys.

I haven't had my nap yet, I just located a tasty
cache of TrueType fonts and am cleaning them out
before
I take mine.  :)

Just in case there's a problem, I'm reposting here,
with fixed error and clear keyboard strobe when you
run (which should fix the error you had)
[enclosed]

Sincerely,
David W.

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Forwarded from David Wicker
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> Hey Tom !  Very nice !
>
> I'm learning about bytes, words, and stuff myself
> Tom so here's something that might be useful to you !
>
> picx%=CVI(MID$(K$,19))
> picy%=CVI(MID$(K$,23))
> piccols&=2^ASC(RIGHT$(K$,1))
>
> Ya know me, I'm lazy and don't like those extra
> keystrokes.
>
> If you put a "S" on that middle variable, you'd
> have Spicy !  :)
>
> Hope This Helps !
>
> Sincerely,
> David W.
>
> > Here is a nice routine by Tom Record.
> >
> > /* Dale: use abuse or lose.  I got away from the
> > problems of getting
> > /* the dimensions so I can play w/ various effects.
> > /* tat$ line will be wrapped here!
> > /* <Cancel> is trapped in the dialog - closes all.
> > // BMPVIEW3.LST
> > TITLEW #1,"Right-click to close!"
> > OPENW #1
> > FILESELECT #"<Cancel> closes all!","*.bmp","",np$
> > IF np$ = "" THEN END
> > OPEN np$ FOR INPUT AS #99  // sequential read
> > k$ = INPUT$(29,#99)        // data is in the first
> > 29 bytes
> > CLOSE #99                  // close the file before
> > we forget
> > picx% = ASC(MID$(k$,19,1)) + (ASC(MID$(k$,20,1)) *
> > 256)
> > picy% = ASC(MID$(k$,23,1)) + (ASC(MID$(k$,24,1)) *
> > 256)
> > picDepth& = ASC(RIGHT$(k$,1))
> > picCols& = INT(2 ^ picDepth) //  number of colors
> > bmw& = picx%                 // width of image
> > bmh& = picy%                 // height of image
> > '=>>tat$ = np$ + "  " + STR$(bmw&) + "w X " +
> > STR$(bmh&) + "h @ " +
> > '=>>STR$(picDepth&) + "-bit color"
> > IF hBmp& THEN FREEBMP hBmp&
> > hBmp& = LOADBMP(np$)
> > TITLEW #1,tat$
> > PUT 0,0,hBmp&
> > DO
> >   EXIT IF MOUSEK & 2
> > LOOP
> > CLOSEW #1
> > END
>
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
So you have always wanted a Btree indexing program. Check out
BTREE.ZIP from Pat Bullman
WOW!

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
I have a question, and maybe there's a simple answer.

Sometimes in my PROCEDUREs I need to DIM an array.
Now, this can easily be done by:

DIM Cards(51)

And if you try to run it again, you'll need,

ERASE Cards()

just before it.
This much I understand.

But how do you make a LOCAL array, that is, one that
cannot be accessed anywhere else except in that
procedure ?  Suppose I have two different LOCAL arrays
that both share the same name but interpret
different inputs with different results because they
are inside of different procedures ?

Thanks in advance !
And this undoubtedly would help someone else who has
probably been using too many global array variables
inside of proecedures.  :)

Sincerely,
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List Member Pat Bullman <pbullman@norex.com.au> wrote:
David,

My understanding is that this is relatively hard in GFA16 as all arrays
appear to be global.  However you can pass an array to FUNCTION or
PROCEDURE if you use VAR keyword in the header (ie PROCEDURE TestData(VAR
MyArray()) - I think that's the right syntax, I haven't done one of these
for ages.

Pat

At 09:25 11/04/00 -0700, you wrote:
>List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
>I have a question, and maybe there's a simple answer.
>
>Sometimes in my PROCEDUREs I need to DIM an array.
>Now, this can easily be done by:
>
>DIM Cards(51)
>
>And if you try to run it again, you'll need,
>
>ERASE Cards()
>
>just before it.
>This much I understand.
>
>But how do you make a LOCAL array, that is, one that
>cannot be accessed anywhere else except in that
>procedure ?  Suppose I have two different LOCAL arrays
>that both share the same name but interpret
>different inputs with different results because they
>are inside of different procedures ?
>
>Thanks in advance !
>And this undoubtedly would help someone else who has
>probably been using too many global array variables
>inside of proecedures.  :)
>
>Sincerely,
>David W.
>
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List Member Pat Bullman <pbullman@norex.com.au> wrote:
David,

My understanding is that this is relatively hard in GFA16 as all arrays
appear to be global.  However you can pass an array to FUNCTION or
PROCEDURE if you use VAR keyword in the header (ie PROCEDURE TestData(VAR
MyArray()) - I think that's the right syntax, I haven't done one of these
for ages.

If you find a way of doing this, please let me know.

Pat

At 09:25 11/04/00 -0700, you wrote:
>List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
>I have a question, and maybe there's a simple answer.
>
>Sometimes in my PROCEDUREs I need to DIM an array.
>Now, this can easily be done by:
>
>DIM Cards(51)
>
>And if you try to run it again, you'll need,
>
>ERASE Cards()
>
>just before it.
>This much I understand.
>
>But how do you make a LOCAL array, that is, one that
>cannot be accessed anywhere else except in that
>procedure ?  Suppose I have two different LOCAL arrays
>that both share the same name but interpret
>different inputs with different results because they
>are inside of different procedures ?
>
>Thanks in advance !
>And this undoubtedly would help someone else who has
>probably been using too many global array variables
>inside of proecedures.  :)
>
>Sincerely,
>David W.
>
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> List Member Pat Bullman <pbullman@norex.com.au>
> wrote:
> David,
> 
> My understanding is that this is relatively hard in
> GFA16 as all arrays
> appear to be global.  However you can pass an array
> to FUNCTION or
> PROCEDURE if you use VAR keyword in the header (ie
> PROCEDURE TestData(VAR
> MyArray()) - I think that's the right syntax, I
> haven't done one of these
> for ages.
> 
> If you find a way of doing this, please let me know.
> 
> Pat

No..  I don't need to pass arrays, but just how much
memory can I use before I run out of global space ??

If it's 640k I've got a problem heading my way since
I'm on like my 76th PROCEDURE for Pyramax Graphic
Library when I make it into a .DLL..  :/

Sorry but I really like to program code and this
language is going to see a world of it if it can
handle the size and complexity of it !

Ran outta memory in QBasic, Delphi Noetic,
and Turbo Pascal years ago cause the language was
just too limited !  GFA better not bawlk out on me
now !

To give you an idea of the complexity,
Pyr_TRL
H,V,X,Y,"a68.a10|a18.b70.b12|b20.c73.c15|c23.d75.d17|d25."

That means transmit line of string with custom graphic
script, it's not XY coordinates but #68 is script
command #68 in my graphic list, #68 is to tint the
pixels beneath the selection of graphics to follow,
a/b/c/d represent the four corners of the graphic
element I'm working with and effectively it makes a
very nice fog/crystal window !  You'll see in
SneakPeekDemo once I get there.

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:


--- Dale Bryant <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com>
> wrote:
> So you have always wanted a Btree indexing program.
> Check out
> BTREE.ZIP from Pat Bullman
> WOW!
> 
> Dale Bryant

Sooo what's a BTree Dale ?  Isn't that where
Winnie The Pooh gets his honey from ??  :)

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Bzzzp .. !

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List Member Pat Bullman <pbullman@norex.com.au> wrote:
David,

I've had many difficulties in the past with large string arrays (and some
not so large) inside DLL's, but not with numeric arrays.  I complained to
my GFA contact in Australia at the time about this and he said it was
something to do with a 64k limit within a DLL, not necessarily a GFA
problem.  I disagree - I always thought it was a problem with the internal
GFA array pointers getting screwed in some way, particularly the string
pointers within an array which I think are different to the way numeric
arrays are handled.

I can't remember how I got around this problem and the code was kept by the
client.

Maybe someone can comfirm this 64k limit within a DLL.  Also, David,
remember that many limitations are constraints of the Windows operating
system, not always with the language.  Windows takes absolute control over
memory allocation and access, as well as many other things.

Pat 


At 13:23 11/04/00 -0700, you wrote:
>List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> List Member Pat Bullman <pbullman@norex.com.au>
>> wrote:
>> David,
>> 
>> My understanding is that this is relatively hard in
>> GFA16 as all arrays
>> appear to be global.  However you can pass an array
>> to FUNCTION or
>> PROCEDURE if you use VAR keyword in the header (ie
>> PROCEDURE TestData(VAR
>> MyArray()) - I think that's the right syntax, I
>> haven't done one of these
>> for ages.
>> 
>> If you find a way of doing this, please let me know.
>> 
>> Pat
>
>No..  I don't need to pass arrays, but just how much
>memory can I use before I run out of global space ??
>
>If it's 640k I've got a problem heading my way since
>I'm on like my 76th PROCEDURE for Pyramax Graphic
>Library when I make it into a .DLL..  :/
>
>Sorry but I really like to program code and this
>language is going to see a world of it if it can
>handle the size and complexity of it !
>
>Ran outta memory in QBasic, Delphi Noetic,
>and Turbo Pascal years ago cause the language was
>just too limited !  GFA better not bawlk out on me
>now !
>
>To give you an idea of the complexity,
>Pyr_TRL
>H,V,X,Y,"a68.a10|a18.b70.b12|b20.c73.c15|c23.d75.d17|d25."
>
>That means transmit line of string with custom graphic
>script, it's not XY coordinates but #68 is script
>command #68 in my graphic list, #68 is to tint the
>pixels beneath the selection of graphics to follow,
>a/b/c/d represent the four corners of the graphic
>element I'm working with and effectively it makes a
>very nice fog/crystal window !  You'll see in
>SneakPeekDemo once I get there.
>
>Sincerely,
>David W.
>
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List Member Pat Bullman <pbullman@norex.com.au> wrote:
David,

I've had many difficulties in the past with large string arrays (and some
not so large) inside DLL's, but not with numeric arrays.  I complained to
my GFA contact in Australia at the time about this and he said it was
something to do with a 64k limit within a DLL, not necessarily a GFA
problem.  I disagree - I always thought it was a problem with the internal
GFA array pointers getting screwed in some way, particularly the string
pointers within an array which I think are different to the way numeric
arrays are handled.

I can't remember how I got around this problem and the code was kept by the
client.

Maybe someone can comfirm this 64k limit within a DLL.  Also, David,
remember that many limitations are constraints of the Windows operating
system, not always with the language.  Windows takes absolute control over
memory allocation and access, as well as many other things.

Pat 


At 13:23 11/04/00 -0700, you wrote:
>List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> List Member Pat Bullman <pbullman@norex.com.au>
>> wrote:
>> David,
>> 
>> My understanding is that this is relatively hard in
>> GFA16 as all arrays
>> appear to be global.  However you can pass an array
>> to FUNCTION or
>> PROCEDURE if you use VAR keyword in the header (ie
>> PROCEDURE TestData(VAR
>> MyArray()) - I think that's the right syntax, I
>> haven't done one of these
>> for ages.
>> 
>> If you find a way of doing this, please let me know.
>> 
>> Pat
>
>No..  I don't need to pass arrays, but just how much
>memory can I use before I run out of global space ??
>
>If it's 640k I've got a problem heading my way since
>I'm on like my 76th PROCEDURE for Pyramax Graphic
>Library when I make it into a .DLL..  :/
>
>Sorry but I really like to program code and this
>language is going to see a world of it if it can
>handle the size and complexity of it !
>
>Ran outta memory in QBasic, Delphi Noetic,
>and Turbo Pascal years ago cause the language was
>just too limited !  GFA better not bawlk out on me
>now !
>
>To give you an idea of the complexity,
>Pyr_TRL
>H,V,X,Y,"a68.a10|a18.b70.b12|b20.c73.c15|c23.d75.d17|d25."
>
>That means transmit line of string with custom graphic
>script, it's not XY coordinates but #68 is script
>command #68 in my graphic list, #68 is to tint the
>pixels beneath the selection of graphics to follow,
>a/b/c/d represent the four corners of the graphic
>element I'm working with and effectively it makes a
>very nice fog/crystal window !  You'll see in
>SneakPeekDemo once I get there.
>
>Sincerely,
>David W.
>
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List Member Barlik@aol.com wrote:
In a message dated 4/11/00 11:40:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
pbullman@norex.com.au writes:

<< >To give you an idea of the complexity,
 >Pyr_TRL
 >H,V,X,Y,"a68.a10|a18.b70.b12|b20.c73.c15|c23.d75.d17|d25."
 >
 >That means transmit line of string with custom graphic
 >script, it's not XY coordinates but #68 is script
 >command #68 in my graphic list, #68 is to tint the
 >pixels beneath the selection of graphics to follow,
 >a/b/c/d represent the four corners of the graphic
 >element I'm working with and effectively it makes a
 >very nice fog/crystal window !  You'll see in
 >SneakPeekDemo once I get there.
 > >>


Explanation:    DIM is used to define numeric and/or string arrays of up to 6 
dimensions. Only variables of the same type are allowed in one array. The 
elements are addressed using indices.

The number of elements in one-dimensional arrays is only limited by available 
memory. In multidimensional arrays the number of elements for the first 
dimension is also "unlimited". However, the size of the first dimension as 
well as the product of all other dimensions must be less than 65535.
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--- Pat Bullman <pbullman@norex.com.au> wrote:
> List Member Pat Bullman <pbullman@norex.com.au>
> wrote:
> David,
> 
> I've had many difficulties in the past with large
> string arrays (and some
> not so large) inside DLL's, but not with numeric
> arrays.

Let me show you a scary program..

OPENW #1,_X \ 2 - 200,_Y \ 2 - 150,400,300,0
FOR I = 0 TO 180
  FOR J = 0 TO 180
    PLOT J,I
    A$ = A$ + " "
    K$ = INKEY$
  EXIT IF K$ > ""
  NEXT J
  EXIT IF K$ > ""
NEXT I
KEYGET Z
CLOSEW #1

Well, looking at it, quick as flash you think it
would create a big black square in the top-left
hand corner of screen and A$ would exit with
32761 spaces " " .

Not so easily..
If you run it, right after it gets past 5000 pixels
the whole thing starts to bog down.

In fact, strings can only have up to 32760 characters.

> I complained to
> my GFA contact in Australia at the time about this
> and he said it was
> something to do with a 64k limit within a DLL, not
> necessarily a GFA
> problem.  I disagree - I always thought it was a
> problem with the internal
> GFA array pointers getting screwed in some way,
> particularly the string
> pointers within an array which I think are different
> to the way numeric
> arrays are handled.

Well as it turns out I am having to pay $125 for this
good compiler.  Now I've heard many good things
about it, especially from John and Russell, but this
64k limit is a joke !  People we're in and exceeding
past the year 2000 !  It's really not that hard to
emulate a programming language that can perceive or
seem to exceed past a 64k limit.  I all ways write
serious business stuff so it can take up to hard-
drive space of data and never think once of saying
64k limit to them !

I have a solution for your string problem because I
had the same similar difficulty in QBasic.

In Scenario, in order to keep track of virtual strings
I make a sorta random access string manager like this.

[Apple]
Worms can often be found in green apples
wouldn't you turn green if you had a worm in
you ?  :)
_
[NameData]
Fred, P. Wilson, etc.

This is a text file and in it, you can insert,
delete, add, duplicate, rename, and shift data
to your heart's content.  Its slow when it gets up
to 1000 but the advantage is, if you virtually
write it, you can handle strings up to hard-drive
space which is well beyond 64k !

I've done this many times for many business packages.
My bosses liked it cause they could change the
contents of the "variables" easily.

Functions needed:
AddString, RenameString, YankString,
ChangeContentsString, LoadString, SaveString,
SortString, LinkString, FreeString, CreateString, etc.

I did something like this in Scenario on a much
simpler level but it does work.

I all ready have plans to write a programming
language in GFA, and mine by garn is going to allow
variables exceeding 64k !  :)
> 
> I can't remember how I got around this problem and
> the code was kept by the
> client.
> 
> Maybe someone can comfirm this 64k limit within a
> DLL.  Also, David,
> remember that many limitations are constraints of
> the Windows operating
> system, not always with the language.  Windows takes
> absolute control over
> memory allocation and access, as well as many other
> things.
> 
> Pat 

Thanks for letting me know in advance Pat.
Is there any more bad news on GFA I should know about
?

Hey its gonna rain outside maaan I've been waiting
all month for a good storm here !  :)  That tornado
doesn't count, no rain just a good breeze.

Wonder what would've happened if I took my kite and
tied myself to the back of it and jumped up into it ??
^o^

Sincerely,
David W.

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--- Pat Bullman <pbullman@norex.com.au> wrote:
> List Member Pat Bullman <pbullman@norex.com.au>
> wrote:
> David,
> 
> I've had many difficulties in the past with large
> string arrays (and some
> not so large) inside DLL's, but not with numeric
> arrays.

Let me show you a scary program..

OPENW #1,_X \ 2 - 200,_Y \ 2 - 150,400,300,0
FOR I = 0 TO 180
  FOR J = 0 TO 180
    PLOT J,I
    A$ = A$ + " "
    K$ = INKEY$
  EXIT IF K$ > ""
  NEXT J
  EXIT IF K$ > ""
NEXT I
KEYGET Z
CLOSEW #1

Well, looking at it, quick as flash you think it
would create a big black square in the top-left
hand corner of screen and A$ would exit with
32761 spaces " " .

Not so easily..
If you run it, right after it gets past 5000 pixels
the whole thing starts to bog down.

In fact, strings can only have up to 32760 characters.

> I complained to
> my GFA contact in Australia at the time about this
> and he said it was
> something to do with a 64k limit within a DLL, not
> necessarily a GFA
> problem.  I disagree - I always thought it was a
> problem with the internal
> GFA array pointers getting screwed in some way,
> particularly the string
> pointers within an array which I think are different
> to the way numeric
> arrays are handled.

Well as it turns out I am having to pay $125 for this
good compiler.  Now I've heard many good things
about it, especially from John and Russell, but this
64k limit is a joke !  People we're in and exceeding
past the year 2000 !  It's really not that hard to
emulate a programming language that can perceive or
seem to exceed past a 64k limit.  I all ways write
serious business stuff so it can take up to hard-
drive space of data and never think once of saying
64k limit to them !

I have a solution for your string problem because I
had the same similar difficulty in QBasic.

In Scenario, in order to keep track of virtual strings
I make a sorta random access string manager like this.

[Apple]
Worms can often be found in green apples
wouldn't you turn green if you had a worm in
you ?  :)
_
[NameData]
Fred, P. Wilson, etc.

This is a text file and in it, you can insert,
delete, add, duplicate, rename, and shift data
to your heart's content.  Its slow when it gets up
to 1000 but the advantage is, if you virtually
write it, you can handle strings up to hard-drive
space which is well beyond 64k !

I've done this many times for many business packages.
My bosses liked it cause they could change the
contents of the "variables" easily.

Functions needed:
AddString, RenameString, YankString,
ChangeContentsString, LoadString, SaveString,
SortString, LinkString, FreeString, CreateString, etc.

I did something like this in Scenario on a much
simpler level but it does work.

I all ready have plans to write a programming
language in GFA, and mine by garn is going to allow
variables exceeding 64k !  :)
> 
> I can't remember how I got around this problem and
> the code was kept by the
> client.
> 
> Maybe someone can comfirm this 64k limit within a
> DLL.  Also, David,
> remember that many limitations are constraints of
> the Windows operating
> system, not always with the language.  Windows takes
> absolute control over
> memory allocation and access, as well as many other
> things.
> 
> Pat 

Thanks for letting me know in advance Pat.
Is there any more bad news on GFA I should know about
?

Hey its gonna rain outside maaan I've been waiting
all month for a good storm here !  :)  That tornado
doesn't count, no rain just a good breeze.

Wonder what would've happened if I took my kite and
tied myself to the back of it and jumped up into it ??
^o^

Sincerely,
David W.

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David,

It's not the compiler fault, in fact the compiler is great.  In an
executable you can use as much memory as you have!  I've put a meg of data
into an array and then sorted it and it all happened in a flash.  DLL's are
a little different, I think.  And once again, I think this is an operating
system constraint not GFA.

Also there's direct memory which can be allocated and managed to hold data,
and it works OK - you have an long array which holds pointers to where your
string are stored and if you zero terminate your string there are several
tools to recover them(CHAR{}).


Pat

>Well as it turns out I am having to pay $125 for this
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Pat,

> I've had many difficulties in the past with large string arrays (and some
> not so large) inside DLL's, but not with numeric arrays.  I complained to
> my GFA contact in Australia at the time about this and he said it was
> something to do with a 64k limit within a DLL, not necessarily a GFA
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> GFA array pointers getting screwed in some way, particularly the string
> pointers within an array which I think are different to the way numeric
> arrays are handled.

I've have never had the $ABIG compiler directive work well with strings. It
could be because the string straddles the 64k sector boundary - not nice!

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List Member "John Findlay" <John.Findlay@Byte-it.net> wrote:
David,

> Let me show you a scary program..

It's not surprising that it slows down. Try to imagine what's going on
inside the internal workings of the 'Basic' language. GFA is having to
reallocate memory and move the string many times. As the string gets bigger
it will take longer. This is a characteristic of 'Basic' and is not peculiar
to GFA.

Try this;

DEFINT "a-z"
OPENW #1,_X \ 2 - 200,_Y \ 2 - 150,400,300,0
A$ = " "
address = V:A$
temp = 0

FOR I = 0 TO 180
  FOR J = 0 TO 180
    PLOT J,I
    A$ = A$ + " "
    temp = V:A$
    IF temp != address
      INC numcount
      PRINT AT(3,3);"Address Changed "; numcount
      address = temp
    ENDIF
    K$ = INKEY$
    EXIT IF K$ > ""
  NEXT J
  EXIT IF K$ > ""
NEXT I
KEYGET Z
CLOSEW #1

A better way would be to make a large string to start with, and then poke
chars where they need to be. This is a better programming practice.

> Now I've heard many good things
> about it, especially from John and Russell, but this
> 64k limit is a joke !

There is no 64k limit. 16 bit windows however has 64k sectors which can
cause a few headaches.

Regards,

John





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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Explanation:    DIM is used to define numeric and/or
> string arrays of up to 6 
> dimensions. Only variables of the same type are
> allowed in one array. The 
> elements are addressed using indices.

What ?  Only six levels deep ?  That's not good !
Scenario scripting structure alone needs 8 !

Script(World,Class,Map,Submap,X,Y,Components,AI)

QBee got ya 16..  :)

> 
> The number of elements in one-dimensional arrays is
> only limited by available 
> memory. In multidimensional arrays the number of
> elements for the first 
> dimension is also "unlimited". However, the size of
> the first dimension as 
> well as the product of all other dimensions must be
> less than 65535.

Also not good..  Doesn't it make sense that someone
could've written a programming language that maybe
slows down 1% or less so you can do the following ??

Dim PushSpace(999999999999999999999999999)

It's not that hard to write a virtual driver for this,
but why would you have to ??

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--- Pat Bullman <pbullman@norex.com.au> wrote:
> List Member Pat Bullman <pbullman@norex.com.au>
> wrote:
> David,
> 
> It's not the compiler fault, in fact the compiler is
> great.  In an
> executable you can use as much memory as you have! 
> I've put a meg of data
> into an array and then sorted it and it all happened
> in a flash.  DLL's are
> a little different, I think.  And once again, I
> think this is an operating
> system constraint not GFA.

Okay, I guess I need to know this then..
Are you limited to only 64k per .DLL, 640k,
or is it less ?  I really don't wanna have to put
out PyrLib in a dozen or so .DLLs, I'd like it all
to just be one.

> 
> Also there's direct memory which can be allocated
> and managed to hold data,
> and it works OK - you have an long array which holds
> pointers to where your
> string are stored and if you zero terminate your
> string there are several
> tools to recover them(CHAR{}).

Well Pat when you do this, you're no better off then
Turbo Pascal or QBasic cause they do the same thing,
push space allocated from high memory.  Doesn't it
make sense that there should be a programming language
that does all this invisibly when and if you need that
kind of memory space for programming ?

Yah I know I want the world on a silver platter with
a slice of moon sprinkled with stars and a sun to
keep my meal warm.  :)

> 
> 
> Pat

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:


--- John Findlay <John.Findlay@Byte-it.net> wrote:
> List Member "John Findlay"
> <John.Findlay@Byte-it.net> wrote:
> David,
> 
> > Let me show you a scary program..
> 
> It's not surprising that it slows down. Try to
> imagine what's going on
> inside the internal workings of the 'Basic'
> language. GFA is having to
> reallocate memory and move the string many times. As
> the string gets bigger
> it will take longer. This is a characteristic of
> 'Basic' and is not peculiar
> to GFA.

Well, and this goes back along ways I know.
On the T.R.S 80 Model I, Level II, you had a command
called DEFSTR where you put in a # of characters max
for strings.  Now, it only took a # from 1-255, but
by doing so, if you knew your strings wouldn't be
bigger than say 16 characters, you put
DEFSTR 16, and your program would run that much
faster.  Later versions of the T.R.S. 80 were better,
and were smarter, they put all the strings at the
top of the heap so running that "add a space" program
would fly well.  :)

>From what I can see, strings are given pretty low
priority and have to be scooted around constantly.
The Apple ][+ you could poke 2 #'s and specify the
starting fixed location for your variables,
naturally if you weren't going to use HIRES screen
#2, you could put them starting at 16384 and your
program really flew.

Commodore Amiga followed suit then as to what IBM
does now.  Everything floats, nothing is stable,
and rarely lockable or traceable, which added to
slowness and inability to lock anything down.

GWBasic & QBasic 4.5 used memory location &HA000
to poke directly into the MCGA screen 320x200x256.
One byte = one pixel so it was =VERY= fast.

Now I know there are .DIB things I sorta understand
for GFA and maybe that will work well for that,
but adding a space to a string !  I think it would
be possible for me to write a speedy library of
sorts for string handling that worked within the
cropping and cutting limitations of GFA, but I'm
not here to fix the roller coaster, just to ride it.
:)

> 
> Try this;
> 
> DEFINT "a-z"
> OPENW #1,_X \ 2 - 200,_Y \ 2 - 150,400,300,0
> A$ = " "
> address = V:A$
> temp = 0
> 
> FOR I = 0 TO 180
>   FOR J = 0 TO 180
>     PLOT J,I
>     A$ = A$ + " "
>     temp = V:A$
>     IF temp != address
>       INC numcount
>       PRINT AT(3,3);"Address Changed "; numcount
>       address = temp
>     ENDIF
>     K$ = INKEY$
>     EXIT IF K$ > ""
>   NEXT J
>   EXIT IF K$ > ""
> NEXT I
> KEYGET Z
> CLOSEW #1
> 
> A better way would be to make a large string to
> start with, and then poke
> chars where they need to be. This is a better
> programming practice.

Rain your program, yes, it's definitely scoot scooting
things all around.  :/

> 
> > Now I've heard many good things
> > about it, especially from John and Russell, but
> this
> > 64k limit is a joke !
> 
> There is no 64k limit. 16 bit windows however has
> 64k sectors which can
> cause a few headaches.

In these sectors, are you only limited to 1 sector
per compiled DLL or program ?

> 
> Regards,
> 
> John

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Pat,
> I've have never had the $ABIG compiler directive
> work well with strings. It
> could be because the string straddles the 64k sector
> boundary - not nice!
> 
> John

Well, I'm glad to know I'm not the only one suffering
here.  :)  Okay well..  Looks like I'll need to write
some high speed string handling routines as well for
PyrLib.

PROCEDURE
  AddStr(A$,B$), AddChar(A$,A), SubStrChar(A$,A)

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List Member Pat Bullman <pbullman@norex.com.au> wrote:
David,


>Okay, I guess I need to know this then..
>Are you limited to only 64k per .DLL, 640k,
>or is it less ?  I really don't wanna have to put
>out PyrLib in a dozen or so .DLLs, I'd like it all
>to just be one.

I'm using the Window's API Bible for reference here.  It's not clear to me
exactley what the DLL limitation is.  I think its saying that the DLL is
limited to storing static variables and array pointers in the local heap
(64k limit there).  It really is not clear to me.  Maybe a good book on
Windows might help.

>Well Pat when you do this, you're no better off then
>Turbo Pascal or QBasic cause they do the same thing,
>push space allocated from high memory.  Doesn't it
>make sense that there should be a programming language
>that does all this invisibly when and if you need that
>kind of memory space for programming ?

I've worked for many years with QBasic (BASCOM 7, the professional edition)
and even though it supported far strings I think GFA features are better
and faster.  Remember, these things are often managed below the surface by
Windows and are not local to GFA.  And Windows is not DOS! you just can't
go peeking and poking anywhere you like (unfortunately).

John Findlay wrote some tools for huge memory management, might be
worthwhile having a look.

Don't use GFA's MALLOC command to allocate memory - you'll end up in
trouble.  Use the API's, they are a bit of a pain but its worth the effort.

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List Member Anthony Watson <awatson@pacifier.com> wrote:
First, does ANYONE know how to unsubscribe from this list? I'm still
getting duplicate messages, even after contacting GFA about it. It's
filling up my mailbox and I need it to quit! Ha. Ha. Since no one else
seems to have this problem, I'm hoping to unsubscribe so the duplicates
will stop, then sign back up again.

David,

> In fact, strings can only have up to 32760 characters.

I thought it was 32767, but close enough... Ha. Ha.

> this 64k limit is a joke !  People we're in and exceeding
> past the year 2000!

I only use GFA strings for small stuff (up to 8K or so). If I need more
temporary storage, I create my own memory buffer and manage things
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List Member Anthony Watson <awatson@pacifier.com> wrote:
Pat,

> Also there's direct memory which can be allocated and managed to hold data,
> and it works OK - you have an long array which holds pointers to where your
> string are stored and if you zero terminate your string there are several
> tools to recover them(CHAR{}).

I personally use a long word to specify the size of text and/or data in
my memory buffers. I often store data with lots of zero bytes in them,
which would not be read correctly by a function like CHAR{}.

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Sincerely

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I'm using the Window's API Bible for reference here.
>  It's not clear to me
> exactley what the DLL limitation is.  I think its
> saying that the DLL is
> limited to storing static variables and array
> pointers in the local heap
> (64k limit there).  It really is not clear to me. 
> Maybe a good book on
> Windows might help.

Okay I'm asking cause I guess I don't know,
what's a static variable ?

> I've worked for many years with QBasic (BASCOM 7,
> the professional edition)
> and even though it supported far strings I think GFA
> features are better
> and faster.  Remember, these things are often
> managed below the surface by
> Windows and are not local to GFA.  And Windows is
> not DOS! you just can't
> go peeking and poking anywhere you like
> (unfortunately).

Is Bascom 7 anything like PDF 7.0 ?
Yah strings are my good friend !  :)  I've used them
for all kinds of data management.  I've already had
to write 9 different kinds of string handlers cause
GFA isn't keeping tabs on 'em.  :/

> 
> John Findlay wrote some tools for huge memory
> management, might be
> worthwhile having a look.
> 
> Don't use GFA's MALLOC command to allocate memory -
> you'll end up in
> trouble.  Use the API's, they are a bit of a pain
> but its worth the effort.

No, I'm not anywhere near that.  Right now I'm using
Russell's windowlock for anything.  If need be, I'll
use that push space to store actual world data.

Now don't laugh.  That's serious.  I got around some
very serious memory limitations in QBasic by using
some of the EGA pages to store data !  It's no fun
but it's neato when you can save off an entire world,
that is all items, weapons, spells, talismans, tokens,
flags, maps, NPC stats, player data, scripts,
sprites, tile images and item/spell lookup tables.
I did it all in 320x200x16 !  The math was really
interesting !  :)

> 
> Pat

Sincerely,
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> List Member Anthony Watson <awatson@pacifier.com> wrote:
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> getting duplicate messages, even after contacting GFA about it. It's
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> seems to have this problem, I'm hoping to unsubscribe so the duplicates
> will stop, then sign back up again.
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> David,
>
> > In fact, strings can only have up to 32760 characters.
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> I thought it was 32767, but close enough... Ha. Ha.
>
> > this 64k limit is a joke !  People we're in and exceeding
> > past the year 2000!
>
> I only use GFA strings for small stuff (up to 8K or so). If I need more
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Looks like you are going to have to accept some limits or find a
way around them.

One way might be to write yourself a *.dat file with headings
similar to an *.ini...

[string#01]
something
[string#02]
something
[string#03]
something
[string#04]
something
[string#05]
something
[string#06]
something
etcetra, etcetra

You can move the pointer around in it, so you can not only
update it, you can even change specific bytes' entries.

Done, remember your housekeeping & delete the file.  Since
you are NOT going to try to load the whole file into NotePad
or some other texteditor, you get away from the 32K/64K limits
of Windows.  *This* file can be meggabig - limited ONLY by free
drive space.  When you read it, you aren't doing anything w/
the data until you reach the one you desire.  You can manage it
fairly easily by maintaining LOC(n) entries in an array along w/
a short description & just move the pointer to the one you want, 
NOT having to waste time reading the whole thing.

Can't you?  You are far more clever than I am & I think *I* can.
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> First, does ANYONE know how to unsubscribe from this
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> getting duplicate messages, even after contacting
> GFA about it. It's
> filling up my mailbox and I need it to quit! Ha. Ha.
> Since no one else
> seems to have this problem, I'm hoping to
> unsubscribe so the duplicates
> will stop, then sign back up again.

That's what ya get for having more then one Email
account.  :)  Check with Dale, he's the
Master of Ceremonies here and he can help ya.

> 
> David,
> 
> > In fact, strings can only have up to 32760
> characters.
> 
> I thought it was 32767, but close enough... Ha. Ha.
> 
> > this 64k limit is a joke !  People we're in and
> exceeding
> > past the year 2000!
> 
> I only use GFA strings for small stuff (up to 8K or
> so). If I need more
> temporary storage, I create my own memory buffer and
> manage things
> manually. You can create a buffer as big as  you
> want.
> 
> Anthony

Yes well..  Remember, I'm not keen on push space at
all.  The only reason I resort to machine-language
or other underhanded tactics is because of severe
limitations of a programming language or its speed.

Hopefully the Backup Basher I posted was both useful
and intelligent enough someone could learn some good
techniques I fought finding a working way
to do a correct DOSSHELL for GFA.

Now I can use my Unzipper, or any other tiny small
programs easily to work hand-in-hand with GFA.  :)

Sincerely,
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:


--- Sergio De Rossi <sderossi@axrma.uniroma1.it>
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> Please cancel my E-mail address in the GFA-Basic
> mailing list, because I
> reaceive too many messages.
> I would like only be informed when the GFA-Basic 32
> English version will be
> available.
> Many thanks and best regards
> Sincerely
> 
> Sergio De Rossi

Wish I had that problem Sergio !
No, with me, I'm finding I want more Email to
read daily.  Guess I'll have to subscribe to a few
SPAM sites personally for myself.  :P

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Subject: Re: [gfabasic] demons, DIMs,strings...
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:


--- Tom Record
<tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> ****
> If you ever want to remove yourself from this
> mailing list,
> you can send mail to <majordomo@gfa.net> with the
> following
> command in the body of your email message:
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> 
> Additionally, the Rules for GFA Mailing Lists apply;
> you 
> can find them in the web on GFA Online:
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> ****
> 
> David
> Looks like you are going to have to accept some
> limits or find a
> way around them.
> 
> One way might be to write yourself a *.dat file with
> headings
> similar to an *.ini...
> 
> [string#01]
> something
> [string#02]
> something
> [string#03]
> something
> [string#04]
> something
> [string#05]
> something
> [string#06]
> something
> etcetra, etcetra

Geesh Tom !  I mentioned this in a prior post:

[APPLE]
Green apples have worms in them.
Wouldn't you turn green if you had worms in you ?

[Weapon.Class.Misc]
(Dagger)
  (Basic Hand)
     3483/2817/38/-**---*-

I did this already in Scenario to keep track of
infinite # of variables that can be infinite in
size.

> 
> You can move the pointer around in it, so you can
> not only
> update it, you can even change specific bytes'
> entries.
> 
> Done, remember your housekeeping & delete the file. 
> Since
> you are NOT going to try to load the whole file into
> NotePad
> or some other texteditor, you get away from the
> 32K/64K limits
> of Windows.  *This* file can be meggabig - limited
> ONLY by free
> drive space.  When you read it, you aren't doing
> anything w/
> the data until you reach the one you desire.  You
> can manage it
> fairly easily by maintaining LOC(n) entries in an
> array along w/
> a short description & just move the pointer to the
> one you want, 
> NOT having to waste time reading the whole thing.
> 
> Can't you?  You are far more clever than I am & I
> think *I* can.
> TomR.

Been there done that.  :)

I just wanted the language to keep some tabs on
what I consider absolutely vital to a decent RPG
Generator without me busting my brains writing one !

Sincerely,
David W.


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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:


--- Tom Record
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> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> ****
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> 
> Additionally, the Rules for GFA Mailing Lists apply;
> you 
> can find them in the web on GFA Online:
> (http://www.gfasoft.gfa.net).
> ****
> 
> David
> Looks like you are going to have to accept some
> limits or find a
> way around them.
> 
> One way might be to write yourself a *.dat file with
> headings
> similar to an *.ini...
> 
> [string#01]
> something
> [string#02]
> something
> [string#03]
> something
> [string#04]
> something
> [string#05]
> something
> [string#06]
> something
> etcetra, etcetra

Geesh Tom !  I mentioned this in a prior post:

[APPLE]
Green apples have worms in them.
Wouldn't you turn green if you had worms in you ?

[Weapon.Class.Misc]
(Dagger)
  (Basic Hand)
     3483/2817/38/-**---*-

I did this already in Scenario to keep track of
infinite # of variables that can be infinite in
size.

> 
> You can move the pointer around in it, so you can
> not only
> update it, you can even change specific bytes'
> entries.
> 
> Done, remember your housekeeping & delete the file. 
> Since
> you are NOT going to try to load the whole file into
> NotePad
> or some other texteditor, you get away from the
> 32K/64K limits
> of Windows.  *This* file can be meggabig - limited
> ONLY by free
> drive space.  When you read it, you aren't doing
> anything w/
> the data until you reach the one you desire.  You
> can manage it
> fairly easily by maintaining LOC(n) entries in an
> array along w/
> a short description & just move the pointer to the
> one you want, 
> NOT having to waste time reading the whole thing.
> 
> Can't you?  You are far more clever than I am & I
> think *I* can.
> TomR.

Been there done that.  :)

I just wanted the language to keep some tabs on
what I consider absolutely vital to a decent RPG
Generator without me busting my brains writing one !

Sincerely,
David W.


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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
--- Jim Pennington <Jim@x-act.net> wrote:
> > First, does ANYONE know how to unsubscribe from
> this list? I'm still 
> > getting duplicate messages, even after contacting
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> > filling up my mailbox and I need it to quit! Ha.

Oouucchh, iiss tthheerree aann eecchhoo  iinn
hheerree ??

(Looking at the rest of your message), you are
receiving quite a few duplicate IDs in the To/From
category.  Do you have multiple mailboxes tied to
this singular email address, "Jim@x-act.net" ?

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List Member MISER@LCIA.COM (Micromiser, Inc) wrote:
I've had no problem with large string arrays up to about 4mb using $ABIG,
haven't tried larger than that. However, I find the number of elements
cannot exceed 16,350 or so (probably 32767/2). More elements will work at
first, but eventually it hangs the system. I've run into that limitation
several times in different routines, different computers w3.1/95/98. Seems
numeric arrays do not have this limitation.

-----
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List Member MISER@LCIA.COM (Micromiser, Inc) wrote:
List Member MISER@LCIA.COM (Micromiser, Inc) wrote:
I've had no problem with large string arrays up to about 4mb using $ABIG,
haven't tried larger than that. However, I find the number of elements
cannot exceed 16,350 or so (probably 32767/2). More elements will work at
first, but eventually it hangs the system. I've run into that limitation
several times in different routines, different computers w3.1/95/98. Seems
numeric arrays do not have this limitation.

-----
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:


--- "Micromiser, Inc" <MISER@LCIA.COM> wrote:
> List Member MISER@LCIA.COM (Micromiser, Inc) wrote:
> I've had no problem with large string arrays up to
> about 4mb using $ABIG,
> haven't tried larger than that. However, I find the
> number of elements
> cannot exceed 16,350 or so (probably 32767/2). More
> elements will work at
> first, but eventually it hangs the system. I've run
> into that limitation
> several times in different routines, different
> computers w3.1/95/98. Seems
> numeric arrays do not have this limitation.
> 
> -----
> Steve Thornton

Well, fortunately I haven't done any serious string
work yet.  I've written some procedures and functions
for them but haven't used them yet.  I will need to
do so once I start hacking away at my main project.
Hopefully with the compiler I won't have any
problems.  :)

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member Pat Bullman <pbullman@norex.com.au> wrote:
David,

>Is Bascom 7 anything like PDF 7.0 ?

Yep, it's the same animal, I think.  Have written thousands upon thousands
of lines of code in it.  Also have maybe two hundred assembler rountines,
used mainly for sorting everything from arrays to memory blocks, direct
graphics and text display, number crunching etc.  These are of little use
in GFA16, but I suppose I could use them in the GFA32 which supports
in-line asembler.

>Okay I'm asking cause I guess I don't know,
>what's a static variable ?

Not real sure but I think they are simple variables like i&, a$, p%.

>I've already had
>to write 9 different kinds of string handlers cause
>GFA isn't keeping tabs on 'em.  :/

I'm curious, to do what?

>Now don't laugh.  That's serious.  I got around some
>very serious memory limitations in QBasic by using
>some of the EGA pages to store data !  It's no fun

This is fairly easy under Windows.  You just allocate as much memory as you
want and GFA supplies several tools to read/write without the worry dealing
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You can also create a defacto array of types in GFA (something I really
missed coming from QB or VB).


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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
OPENW #1

BEEP
CLOSEW #1

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I'm currently 1100 miles from home, working on an
embedded project for a customer.

Does anyone know how the BEEP statement in
the GFA DOS version works?

I have a hardware problem where, until the system
is warm booted after warming up, neither the video hardware,
nor the GFA BEEP statement will work, but the SOUND function
will work.

I presume BEEP makes a BIOS call, but I have no
Docs with me.

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:


--- Pat Bullman <pbullman@norex.com.au> wrote:
> List Member Pat Bullman <pbullman@norex.com.au>
> wrote:
> David,
> 
> >Is Bascom 7 anything like PDF 7.0 ?
> 
> Yep, it's the same animal, I think.  Have written
> thousands upon thousands
> of lines of code in it.  Also have maybe two hundred
> assembler rountines,
> used mainly for sorting everything from arrays to
> memory blocks, direct
> graphics and text display, number crunching etc. 
> These are of little use
> in GFA16, but I suppose I could use them in the
> GFA32 which supports
> in-line asembler.

I use "SORT" from DOS SHELL to sort stuff.
Yah I kinna live in DOS SHELL programming.  :)

> 
> >Okay I'm asking cause I guess I don't know,
> >what's a static variable ?
> 
> Not real sure but I think they are simple variables
> like i&, a$, p%.

So static means one character in the variable name
or its a global ?

> 
> >I've already had
> >to write 9 different kinds of string handlers cause
> >GFA isn't keeping tabs on 'em.  :/
> 
> I'm curious, to do what?

Complex things:
Look for nth occurance of x1 string, replace with
x2 string, starting from the right to left
skipping 2 words every step.

Stuff like that, mostly only needed for RPG
Generators..

> 
> >Now don't laugh.  That's serious.  I got around
> some
> >very serious memory limitations in QBasic by using
> >some of the EGA pages to store data !  It's no fun
> 
> This is fairly easy under Windows.  You just
> allocate as much memory as you
> want and GFA supplies several tools to read/write
> without the worry dealing
> with EMS, or Segment/Offsets - see the commands
> ending in {} and _HUGE.

I haven't used those yet.  You're saying I don't
need to free them that they are deallocated
instantly and automatically upon exiting ?

Can I somehow do this with Russell's WindowLock ?
His routine is obviously the main reason I'm still
in this party, :)  but at the same token, it's a big
hassle to reboot the computer constantly because
one GET statement or WindowLock stuff gets out of
alignment and can't be freed and thereby eats up
all the memory in the computer.

My question.
Is there a better way ?

> 
> You can also create a defacto array of types in GFA
> (something I really
> missed coming from QB or VB).

Now I don't know what a defacto array is either..
PDS 7.1 is just QBasic with a bunch of mathematical
and statistical stuff added near as I can tell.
That's why I stayed with QBasic 4.5

Sincerely,
David W.

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--- bdd <BrentDeck@compuserve.com> wrote:
> List Member bdd <BrentDeck@compuserve.com> wrote:
> I'm currently 1100 miles from home, working on an
> embedded project for a customer.
> 
> Does anyone know how the BEEP statement in 
> the GFA DOS version works?
> 
> I have a hardware problem where, until the system 
> is warm booted after warming up, neither the video
> hardware, 
> nor the GFA BEEP statement will work, but the SOUND
> function
> will work.
> 
> I presume BEEP makes a BIOS call, but I have no
> Docs with me.
> 
> Brent 

If you just wanna beep don't knock yourself out.  :)

SOUND 1600,3

I know it's 800 for the Apple ][+, I knew at one
point the pitch IBM-pc used for theirs.  Play with
it until you get a beep you like.

Hope This Helps !

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> List Member MISER@LCIA.COM (Micromiser, Inc) wrote:
> I've had no problem with large string arrays up to
> about 4mb using $ABIG,
> haven't tried larger than that. However, I find the
> number of elements
> cannot exceed 16,350 or so (probably 32767/2). More
> elements will work at
> first, but eventually it hangs the system. I've run
> into that limitation
> several times in different routines, different
> computers w3.1/95/98. Seems
> numeric arrays do not have this limitation.
> 
> -----
> Steve Thornton

That would be 16384, yah I know my powers of 2 by
heart up to a billion.

1 2 4 8 16 32 64 128 256 512 1024 2048 4096 16384
32768 65536 131072 262144 524288 1048576 2097152
4194304 8388608 1677216 3355..  heck I can't
remember been too long, it's a 4 or 3 next..  :)

Steve, does the $BIG command use any arguments or
does it just tell GFA to run slower and fatter ?
This message on hanging the system I've gotten a
few times.  I don't have a (RESET) button so I gotta
power down.  Nasty, I like to run my RawJukebox,
two DOS Shells, Internet Explore, Pro FTP, FreeAgent,
PSP, Gredit, and two extra DOS Shells in the
background running under Display and FileMagic.
I wish Win98 was smart enough to remember
all my toys when the system crashes..

Ah well..

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Now *I* am beginning to get repeats.    Not in one checking of the
mail, however.  About 1/2 the previous download msgs will repeat
in the next download.  It certainly isn't regional... David & Pat
are in different hemispheres, but I am getting repeats of most of
their e-mails... sometimes a 3rd copy is tossed in for interest.

I think GFANET has been bit by some bug that will take a while to
hunt down & kill.

<G>
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List Member MISER@LCIA.COM (Micromiser, Inc) wrote:
>
>That would be 16384, yah I know my powers of 2 by
>heart up to a billion.
>
>1 2 4 8 16 32 64 128 256 512 1024 2048 4096 16384
>32768 65536 131072 262144 524288 1048576 2097152
>4194304 8388608 1677216 3355..  heck I can't
>remember been too long, it's a 4 or 3 next..  :)
>
>Steve, does the $BIG command use any arguments or
>does it just tell GFA to run slower and fatter ?
>This message on hanging the system I've gotten a
>few times.  I don't have a (RESET) button so I gotta
>power down.  Nasty, I like to run my RawJukebox,
>two DOS Shells, Internet Explore, Pro FTP, FreeAgent,
>PSP, Gredit, and two extra DOS Shells in the
>background running under Display and FileMagic.
>I wish Win98 was smart enough to remember
>all my toys when the system crashes..
>
I'll choose "slower and fatter". Probably not by much on 32-bit machines
which I think use 4 byte pointers and integers regardless. But with GFA
speed, I've never noticed it. Don't know why everything isn't $ABIG, like
Delphi which allows string lengths to 4 gig...

I have a Radio Shack calculator that can still do binary/hex conversions
after 14 years--probably the only RS product I've ever had that has lasted
more than 6 mos. Too lazy to do my two's...<G>. Also, always shave off a
little to be compiler friendly...

I have my running programs distributed among 5 stations on my desk. That way
I only need to restart 1/5th of the programs. A wonder I don't look like a
piece of charcoal after all those CRT rays and 10k+cps buzzes. QEMM gives me
a quickboot, even on Win98, that has always worked and never caused problems
(but don't use any other feature). But I just changed the main server to W98
(from Win3.1) and now stations don't automatically connect when I reboot
server. Will need to fix that. Sorry for rambling...

BTW, I get the duplicate messages too. Also, I have an old email address I
can access but can't send from, and Private Domo keeps sending reams of GFA
msgs there too. I can't remove because can't originate an email from there.
So, what the heck. Some day they'll shut down that server or email account
(I can't contact them).

Bye.




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List Member Pat Bullman <pbullman@norex.com.au> wrote:
David,

>I use "SORT" from DOS SHELL to sort stuff.
>Yah I kinna live in DOS SHELL programming.  :)

While I not to sure what this DOS SHELL stuff is, I think most things that
can be done in DOS are available under Windows or GFA.   For Sorting check
out GFA's QSORT() and SSORT().  They do more than just sort an array!

>So static means one character in the variable name
>or its a global ?

Simple variables, I assume both local and global, as well as array pointers. 

>I haven't used those yet.  You're saying I don't
>need to free them that they are deallocated
>instantly and automatically upon exiting ?

I'm not sure what you mean.  You allocate memory, using something like
GlobalAlloc(), which is initially referred to by a handle.  When you want
to access the memory you first lock it, at which time you are givern the
address, and do what ever you want to the data.  Once you are finished
manipulating the data, you then unlock it.  Using these steps, you can
allocate as much memory as you have (10 megs).  Because you refer to the
memory by handle, Windows can move the memory whenever it does it
housekeeping, even mnoving it to swap files.  When you lock it, it is
automatically made available.  Sounds clumsy, but it really works quickly.

>
>Can I somehow do this with Russell's WindowLock ?
>His routine is obviously the main reason I'm still
>in this party, :)  but at the same token, it's a big
>hassle to reboot the computer constantly because
>one GET statement or WindowLock stuff gets out of
>alignment and can't be freed and thereby eats up
>all the memory in the computer.

I'm not seen Russell's tools, but I assume they jest do the above.  I think
what's happening is that you are not unlocking the memory for each lock.
Each time you lock memory, Windows increments a counter and expects memory
to be unlocked the same amount of times.  Use something like:

DO WHILE GlobalUnlock(hMemory&)
LOOP

GlobalUnlock() returns zero when the lock count equals zero, otherwise a
non zero value.

>My question.
>Is there a better way ?

No, welcome to the world of Windows.

>> You can also create a defacto array of types in GFA
>> (something I really
>> missed coming from QB or VB).

Sorry, I've confused you there.  GFA does NOT support an array of types.
However, you can very easily emulate this using a memory block and this is
what I was referring to as defacto.

>Now I don't know what a defacto array is either..
>PDS 7.1 is just QBasic with a bunch of mathematical
>and statistical stuff added near as I can tell.
>That's why I stayed with QBasic 4.5

There where other differences, like far strings support which meant you
could simply DIM an string array to hold more then 64k of data, which I
don't think was available under 4.5.  The compiler produced differrent
results than 4.5 (which I also had).  I got PDS 7.1 for its ISAM driver.


Pat

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List Member "Roland Walter" <roland@rowalt.de> wrote:
Hallo,
This is related to people only who work with
PIC microcontrollers (these are small "computers"
which have CPU, RAM, ROM and peripherals in
one case). Such microcontrollers are very usefull
for simple tasks at serial port, for electronic
projects as signal processing and so on.

I have written a PIC programmer software in GFA Basic
for LowCost hardware (described in help) plugged
to the LPT port. This program is small, fast and
free for non-commercial use.
It can "burn" PIC microprocessors, download programs
from such devices, has a built-in disassembler
and more.

I hate PICs and do much more like to work with
AVR devices. These devices make the same but better.
But I had to work with PICs and so I wrote this program ;-)

You can download the program here:
http://www.rowalt.de/mc/

Many greetings,
Roland
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List Member "Roland Walter" <roland@rowalt.de> wrote:

> Does anyone know how the BEEP statement in 
> the GFA DOS version works?
> 
> I have a hardware problem where, until the system 
> is warm booted after warming up, neither the video hardware, 
> nor the GFA BEEP statement will work, but the SOUND function
> will work.
> 
> I presume BEEP makes a BIOS call, but I have no
> Docs with me.
I do'nt really know it but the "beep" is a well known problem
with faster machines - there it's simply to short to hear it.
I also think BEEP is made by a BIOS call because it's possible
to program system timer 2 and output the result to the speaker
(this is what SOUND does).
Microsoft has changed the API call MessageBeep() so that it now
outputs a WAV sound rather then a speaker output because of
this problem. If You run GFA-DOS in a Win95 DOS window You also
will rather hear a WAV sound rather than a speaker beep.
Don't ask me more - I had not spend too much time for this ;-)

Bye, Roland

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List Member "Roland Walter" <roland@rowalt.de> wrote:
Hallo,
Under Win95/NT4 there exists the new function MessageBoxIndirect().
MessageBoxIndirect() instead of MessageBox() or MESSAGE might be
usefull if You like to load the texts direct from a string resource
or/and if You like to display an own icon or/and if You like to
provide help without closing the MessageBox.

The attachement contains an example listing.

Many fun,
Roland





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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I'll choose "slower and fatter". Probably not by
> much on 32-bit machines
> which I think use 4 byte pointers and integers
> regardless. But with GFA
> speed, I've never noticed it. Don't know why
> everything isn't $ABIG, like
> Delphi which allows string lengths to 4 gig...
> 
> I have a Radio Shack calculator that can still do
> binary/hex conversions
> after 14 years--probably the only RS product I've
> ever had that has lasted
> more than 6 mos. Too lazy to do my two's...<G>.
> Also, always shave off a
> little to be compiler friendly...
> 
> I have my running programs distributed among 5
> stations on my desk. That way
> I only need to restart 1/5th of the programs. A
> wonder I don't look like a
> piece of charcoal after all those CRT rays and
> 10k+cps buzzes. QEMM gives me
> a quickboot, even on Win98, that has always worked
> and never caused problems
> (but don't use any other feature). But I just
> changed the main server to W98
> (from Win3.1) and now stations don't automatically
> connect when I reboot
> server. Will need to fix that. Sorry for rambling...
> 
> BTW, I get the duplicate messages too. Also, I have
> an old email address I
> can access but can't send from, and Private Domo
> keeps sending reams of GFA
> msgs there too. I can't remove because can't
> originate an email from there.
> So, what the heck. Some day they'll shut down that
> server or email account
> (I can't contact them).
> 
> Bye.

I don't think I've gotten any duplicate Emails.
If I have, I probably responded to them just the
same.  :)

Was thinking last night I really =AM= going to
need some push space.  I remember on a decent
memory run I kept track of every background snip
beneath any font or sprite that was displayed, so
this will double my need for memory.

Making use of GET/PUT/FREEBMP, does anyone know how
far or long I can go into before the computer says
it doesn't like me anymore ?

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> While I not to sure what this DOS SHELL stuff is, I
> think most things that
> can be done in DOS are available under Windows or
> GFA.   For Sorting check
> out GFA's QSORT() and SSORT().  They do more than
> just sort an array!

Yes, there is that in GFA, which I will undoubtedly
take advantage of, provided its now slower then
DOS's sort !  Wanna know how useful DOS sort is ?
I've got a little over 4500 files of the same type
in one directory, if I do a  DIR/OS/P it messes up
because there are too many files to sort by size !
Sooo do the following:

DIR>DIR.TXT
(chugga chugga chugga ka-ching!)

Okay now you gotta copy of your normal directory in
DIR.TXT, ready to sort it ?

SORT /+13 DIR.TXT DIR2.TXT
(Almost at the speed of light!)

Now bring up DIR2.TXT under any old text editor.
Ta Dah !  It's your directory with a gazillion
files all neatly sorted !  :)

The /+nn says you wanna sort it starting with this
character, which I set the character right after
the last letter in the 3-letter file ending name.
0000000001111
1243567890123
FILENAME.EXT^- right here, 13th character

> Simple variables, I assume both local and global, as
> well as array pointers. 

I played with a pointer to a string, it's not bad,
but I gotta check for that chr$(0) nonsense..  :/

OPENW #1,120,90,400,300,0
A$ = "Hello!" + CHR$(0)
StarName V:A$
KEYGET Z
CLOSEW #1

PROCEDURE StarName(N)
  PRINT "*";
  WHILE PEEK(N)
    PRINT CHR$(PEEK(N));
    N ++
  WEND
  PRINT "*"
RETURN

I'm understanding I have to write code like this
to make a string access for .DLL ?

> I'm not sure what you mean.  You allocate memory,
> using something like
> GlobalAlloc(), which is initially referred to by a
> handle.  When you want
> to access the memory you first lock it, at which
> time you are givern the
> address, and do what ever you want to the data. 
> Once you are finished
> manipulating the data, you then unlock it.  Using
> these steps, you can
> allocate as much memory as you have (10 megs). 
> Because you refer to the
> memory by handle, Windows can move the memory
> whenever it does it
> housekeeping, even mnoving it to swap files.  When
> you lock it, it is
> automatically made available.  Sounds clumsy, but it
> really works quickly.

Could you please post a quick example ?
I'm not following at all..

> I'm not seen Russell's tools, but I assume they jest
> do the above.  I think
> what's happening is that you are not unlocking the
> memory for each lock.
> Each time you lock memory, Windows increments a
> counter and expects memory
> to be unlocked the same amount of times.  Use
> something like:
> 
> DO WHILE GlobalUnlock(hMemory&)
> LOOP

Well, I'm using his shutdown WindowLock
  FOR I = 0 TO Pyr_MaxDC
    IF Pyr_NewDC(I)
      Pyr_OldDC(I) = SelectObject(Pyr_NewDC(I)
      Pyr_OldDC(I))
      ~DeleteObject(Pyr_OldDC(I))
      FREEDC Pyr_NewDC(I)
    ENDIF
  NEXT I

Which I still don't entirely understand but that's
a clip from the Pyramax Library so it'll be in use.
Russell, if this isn't the 100% "pure" way to do it,
please let me know and I'll update to whatever
is the "standard" for this !

Is there a way to open up this DC stuff and have it
automatically know where to go back, and does so
especially if the program exits at any time ?
I don't mind a slight cost in speed or memory for
this useful bit.
> 
> GlobalUnlock() returns zero when the lock count
> equals zero, otherwise a
> non zero value.

Is there a GlobalFree() then that would put everything
right to rights ?

> 
> >My question.
> >Is there a better way ?
> 
> No, welcome to the world of Windows.

Yah some welcome !  :P

> 
> >> You can also create a defacto array of types in
> GFA
> >> (something I really
> >> missed coming from QB or VB).
> 
> Sorry, I've confused you there.  GFA does NOT
> support an array of types.
> However, you can very easily emulate this using a
> memory block and this is
> what I was referring to as defacto.

Notta problem.  Dad uses TYPEd variables all the
time.  I just use Integer, Real (for super accurate
stuff), and strings.  Since GFA supports it and
does pretty well with it, I'll use BIT and BYTE
type variables too.

> There where other differences, like far strings
> support which meant you
> could simply DIM an string array to hold more then
> 64k of data, which I
> don't think was available under 4.5.  The compiler
> produced differrent
> results than 4.5 (which I also had).  I got PDS 7.1
> for its ISAM driver.

What's an ISAM ?

(Sorry about so many questions but I've never heard of
 any of this stuff!)  :)

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member bdd <BrentDeck@compuserve.com> wrote:
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>I do'nt really know it but the "beep" is a well known problem
with faster machines - there it's simply to short to hear it.<

Thanks Roland,

Actually, I was only using BEEP to try to diagnose a hardware problem.

Until The board warmed up and rebooted, the video would not work.

Then I discovered that the BEEP would only work  after reboot.

SOUND works all the time, so I have an audio interface until I fix the
problem.


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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi Roland, ran your program, works great !

Question:  Using just the GFA command MESSAGE,
how do you put in a custom ICON, like say, a 32x32
BITMAP, variable BMP ?

Now I know I'm writing my own GUI completely, but
knowing how to interact with system Windows stuff may
make people feel a bit more at home, especially if
errors crop up.

Sincerely,
David W.

--- Roland Walter <roland@rowalt.de> wrote:
> List Member "Roland Walter" <roland@rowalt.de>
> wrote:
> Hallo,
> Under Win95/NT4 there exists the new function
> MessageBoxIndirect().
> MessageBoxIndirect() instead of MessageBox() or
> MESSAGE might be
> usefull if You like to load the texts direct from a
> string resource
> or/and if You like to display an own icon or/and if
> You like to
> provide help without closing the MessageBox.
> 
> The attachement contains an example listing.
> 
> Many fun,
> Roland


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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Me too. I think all mail list messages today were duplicated.

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> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Now *I* am beginning to get repeats.    Not in one checking of the
> mail, however.  About 1/2 the previous download msgs will repeat
> in the next download.  It certainly isn't regional... David & Pat
> are in different hemispheres, but I am getting repeats of most of
> their e-mails... sometimes a 3rd copy is tossed in for interest.
>
> I think GFANET has been bit by some bug that will take a while to
> hunt down & kill.
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List Member Jim Pennington <Jim@x-act.net> wrote:

David,

I looked at my original post and I'm not sure which header lines you're looking
at. Could you quote the lines you're referring to?

As far as the e-mail address is concerned, x-act.net has exactly (pun intended) 3
mailboxes. Two have specific user id's and mine will accept "anything
else"@x-act.net. Does that explain what you're seeing?

Jim


> List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote: 
> --- Jim Pennington <Jim@x-act.net> wrote: 
> > > First, does ANYONE know how to unsubscribe from 
> > this list? I'm still  
> > > getting duplicate messages, even after contacting 
> > GFA about it. It's  
> > > filling up my mailbox and I need it to quit! Ha. 
>    
> Oouucchh, iiss tthheerree aann eecchhoo  iinn 
> hheerree ?? 
>    
> (Looking at the rest of your message), you are 
> receiving quite a few duplicate IDs in the To/From 
> category.  Do you have multiple mailboxes tied to 
> this singular email address, "Jim@x-act.net" ? 
>  
> Sincerely, 
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List Member Jim Pennington <Jim@x-act.net> wrote:

Well, isn't this special!!! I just received two copies of my own post! This one's
different, though. Unlike the headers on Pat's posts, the same message id appears
on mine. Looking at the receive paths, it looks like one copy came to me directly
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that?), back to gfa.net, then on to me. Ideas?

Jim

Here are the headers from the two copies I received:
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List Member Barlik@aol.com wrote:
The OPENW #n,x,y,w,h,attr command seems to have a problem.
The attr will not setup the minimize box.  Setting the bits does not seem to 
work.

Works fine with the fullw #x which includes the slider bars.

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Dick
All 3 ways gets the min *&* max boxes, but they don't function w/o
a little coding to announce their presence to Windows,

'OPENW #1,10,10,200,100,-1   //opens the window #1 and
'OPENW #1,10,10,200,100,1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 8 | 16 | 32 | 64 | 128 | 512
FULLW #1
KEYGET a%      //waits for input
CLOSEW #1      //closes the window #1
<G>
TomR.



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>work.
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>Works fine with the fullw #x which includes the slider bars.
>
>What is wrong?
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> List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Question:  Using just the GFA command MESSAGE,
> how do you put in a custom ICON, like say, a 32x32
> BITMAP, variable BMP ?

I must clarify it: The GFA MESSAGE command does
simply call the MessageBox() API function. Both
ar NOT able to use custom icons - only the Windows
standard icons are available.
On the other hand the API function MessageBoxIndirect()
which exists since Win95/NT4 extends the possibilities
a bit (context help, direct string load from resource
and custom icons). The icons You must store in Your
EXE/DLL using a resource editor and name then 1,2,3...
and so on. Using of bitmaps instead of icons is not
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--- Jim Pennington <Jim@x-act.net> wrote:
> List Member Jim Pennington <Jim@x-act.net> wrote:
> 
> David,
> 
> I looked at my original post and I'm not sure which
> header lines you're looking
> at. Could you quote the lines you're referring to?
> 
> As far as the e-mail address is concerned, x-act.net
> has exactly (pun intended) 3
> mailboxes. Two have specific user id's and mine will
> accept "anything
> else"@x-act.net. Does that explain what you're
> seeing?
> 
> Jim

Humm ??  It's notta problem.  I just seen a lot of
post messages in here.

Sincerely,
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:


--- Roland Walter <roland@rowalt.de> wrote:
> List Member "Roland Walter" <roland@rowalt.de>
> wrote:
> > List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Question:  Using just the GFA command MESSAGE,
> > how do you put in a custom ICON, like say, a 32x32
> > BITMAP, variable BMP ?
> 
> I must clarify it: The GFA MESSAGE command does
> simply call the MessageBox() API function. Both
> ar NOT able to use custom icons - only the Windows
> standard icons are available.
> On the other hand the API function
> MessageBoxIndirect()
> which exists since Win95/NT4 extends the
> possibilities
> a bit (context help, direct string load from
> resource
> and custom icons). The icons You must store in Your
> EXE/DLL using a resource editor and name then
> 1,2,3...
> and so on. Using of bitmaps instead of icons is not
> possible.
>  
> Bye,
> Roland

Yah well I write my own then so there !  :)

Sincerely,
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:


--- Dale Bryant <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com>
> wrote:
> David, what are you working on?
> 
> Dale Bryant

Greets Dale:

I'm working on my Pyramax Library, what else !  :)
I want the cursor to have optional sparkles when it
moves over the windows so that's where I am right
now.  These routines are complete:

PROCEDURE Pyr_CheckStart
PROCEDURE Pyr_Error(A$,B$,C$)
PROCEDURE Pyr_Startup(X,Y)
PROCEDURE Pyr_Break
PROCEDURE Pyr_ErrFound
PROCEDURE Pyr_Shutdown
PROCEDURE Pyr_LoadBMP(H,V,Typ,F$)
PROCEDURE Pyr_SaveBMP(H,V,X,Y,F$)
PROCEDURE Pyr_PlayMidX(F$)
PROCEDURE Pyr_PlayMid(F$)
PROCEDURE Pyr_PushMidX(F$)
PROCEDURE Pyr_PushMid(F$)
PROCEDURE Pyr_PullMidX(F$)
PROCEDURE Pyr_PullMid
PROCEDURE Pyr_Notice(Typ,A$,B$,C$)
PROCEDURE Pyr_Dialog(Typ,A$,B$,C$)
PROCEDURE Pyr_PlayWavX(F$)
PROCEDURE Pyr_PlayWav(F$)
PROCEDURE Pyr_CursorMove(MH,MV,VAR H,V)
PROCEDURE Pyr_Clr
PROCEDURE Pyr_CLRSel
PROCEDURE Pyr_SelOn
PROCEDURE Pyr_SelOff
PROCEDURE Pyr_AddSel(H,V,I$,Typ)
PROCEDURE Pyr_AddMenu(H,V,I$)
PROCEDURE Pyr_ClrMenu
PROCEDURE Pyr_GetUKey
PROCEDURE Pyr_GetKey
PROCEDURE Pyr_Nano
PROCEDURE Pyr_PCopy(O,D)
PROCEDURE Pyr_Update
PROCEDURE Pyr_APage(P)
PROCEDURE Pyr_SetTR8Color(A$)
PROCEDURE Pyr_SetTR16Color(A$)
PROCEDURE Pyr_TR8Color(N)
PROCEDURE Pyr_TR16Color(N)
PROCEDURE Pyr_TR8(HH,VV,T$)
PROCEDURE Pyr_PushScrn
PROCEDURE Pyr_PushWdw(H,V,X,Y,W$)
PROCEDURE Pyr_PullWdw
PROCEDURE Pyr_OpenWdw(N,H,V,X,Y,RGB$)
PROCEDURE Pyr_CloseWdw(N)
PROCEDURE Pyr_Wdw(H,V,X,Y,RGB$)
PROCEDURE Pyr_TRB(H,V,C,TT)
PROCEDURE Pyr_TRL(H,V,X,Y,A$)
PROCEDURE Pyr_GetB(H,V,VAR BMP)
PROCEDURE Pyr_PtB(H,V,BMP,Typ)
PROCEDURE Pyr_MakeBG(H,V,X,Y)
PROCEDURE Pyr_MacZoom8(H,V,X,Y,H2,V2,X2,Y2)
PROCEDURE Pyr_MacZoom16(H,V,X,Y,H2,V2,X2,Y2)
PROCEDURE Pyr_MacZoom(H,V,X,Y,H2,V2,X2,Y2)
PROCEDURE Pyr_Blk
PROCEDURE Pyr_Wht
PROCEDURE Pyr_Color(R,G,B)
PROCEDURE Pyr_Pst(H,V,R,G,B)
PROCEDURE Pyr_Pnt(H,V,VAR R,G,B)
PROCEDURE Pyr_StopPaint(Z,Z,Z,Z)
PROCEDURE Pyr_YankWord(VAR A$,B$)
PROCEDURE Pyr_Delay(N)
PROCEDURE Pyr_Shell(T$)
PROCEDURE Pyr_LoadEncryptBMP(F$)
PROCEDURE Pyr_UnpackPic(F$)
PROCEDURE Pyr_Unzip(F$)
PROCEDURE Pyr_FromData(F$)
PROCEDURE Pyr_EncryptFile(VAR F$)
PROCEDURE Pyr_Wipe(F$)
PROCEDURE Pyr_TFLN_Exchange(F$,N,T1$)
PROCEDURE Pyr_TF_Exchange(F$,T1$,T2$)
PROCEDURE Pyr_TFLN_InsBefore(F$,N,T1$)
PROCEDURE Pyr_TF_InsBefore(F$,T1$,T2$)
PROCEDURE Pyr_TFLN_InsAfter(F$,N,T1$)
PROCEDURE Pyr_TF_InsAfter(F$,T1$,T2$)
PROCEDURE Pyr_TFLN_Yank(F$,N)
PROCEDURE Pyr_TF_Yank(F$,T1$)
PROCEDURE Pyr_Credits
FUNCTION Pyr_FW
FUNCTION Pyr_FF
FUNCTION Pyr_GetWord$(A,A$)
FUNCTION Pyr_RGB(R,G,B)
FUNCTION Pyr_Wrap(A,B,C)
FUNCTION Pyr_VLen(A$)
FUNCTION Pyr_AddASCII(F$)
FUNCTION Pyr_FirstCap$(F$)
FUNCTION Pyr_EndOfMidi
FUNCTION Pyr_PullNumber(A$,B,E)
FUNCTION Pyr_FileLen(F$)

I still have a long way to go..  I'm all most ready
to put out Pyr_Credits so others can see I program
fairly well and MAYBE might help contribute to the
library.

Already contributors and there are bells whistles
lights lots of color, animation & music credits for
are:

You, Dale Bryant, for SetMouse
Russell Hayward for WindowLock
Englebert Loock for Midi DLL access
Tom Record for keeping the GFAForum active
with new ideas ??  Howzzat Tom.  :)

I'm not going to put out the lot of it tho
until my Compiler arrives and it will be .DLL.

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hi to All.
> 
> I received mail from David Wicker about his Pyramax
> Library. I'm curious how I can create own library in
> GFABASIC, and how I can use it later?
> 
> Best regards
> Peter

Greets Peter:

I tell you, making your library is not easy !

Reach deep into your pocket, past that Floofle
Dust (pocket lint), past all those cinnamon disk
candy wrappers and close your fingers around
women's best friend, that's right, you earn it,
they spend, your wallet with the money in it.

Now carefully open it, Old Mr. George Washington
isn't going to be enough this time, work your way
until you come across that cherished $100 bill.
Then find a $20 and a $5, and you're all set
- be the first kid on your block to own, an
official GFA Compiler !  Yaaaaay !!  :)

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ENFIELD, CT 06082
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You can of course go through GFA Inc. themselves to
get it, but it might be a bit harder that way.

Hope This Helps !

Sincerely,
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
15/04/2000 02:05:44 PM   MP   0504xx-

Microsoft Windows Media Player Codecs
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/mediaplayer/=20

mpcdec.cab 396K    MPC codecs.
mpfull.exe 3.98M   Full MediaPlayer install.
enduser.exe 4.46M  NOT quite sure what it installs.

Is perportedly v6 if my memory hasn't completely failed.

I have on hand if you want but can't get into MS.
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Microsoft Windows Media Spieler Codecs =20
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/mediaplayer /  =20
 =20
mpcdec.cab 396K MPC codecs. =20
mpfull.exe, den 3.98M Volle MediaPlayer anschlie=DFen. =20
enduser.exe 4.46M NICHT ganz sicher das, was es anschlie=DFt. =20
 =20
Ist perportedly v6, wenn mein Ged=E4chtnis ganz nicht=20
gescheitert ist. =20
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Ich habe Hand an, wenn Sie wollen aber in nicht bekommen=20
k=F6nnen MS
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Les Fen=EAtres Microsoft Joueur M=E9diatique Codecs   =20
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/mediaplayer /    =20
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mpcdec.cab 396K codecs MPC.   =20
mpfull.exe que 3.98M MediaPlayer Pleins installent.   =20
enduser.exe 4.46M PAS tout =E0 fait s=FBr ce qu'il installe.   =20
   =20
Est perportedly v6 si ma m=E9moire n'a pas compl=E8tement manqu=E9.   =20
   =20
Je porte la main si vous voulez mais ne peut pas obtenir=20
dans MS
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Microsoft Windows Medios de comunicaci=F3n Jugador Codecs     =20
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/mediaplayer /      =20
     =20
mpcdec.cab 396K codecs de MPC.     =20
mpfull.exe que 3.98M MediaPlayer Llenos instalan.     =20
enduser.exe 4.46M NO bastante seguro lo que instala.     =20
     =20
Es perportedly v6 si mi memoria no ha fallado completamente.     =20
     =20
Yo tengo disponible si usted quiere pero no puede entrar MS    =20
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Microsoft Finestre Media Giocatore Codecs       =20
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/mediaplayer /        =20
       =20
mpcdec.cab 396K codecs di MPC.       =20
mpfull.exe che 3.98M Pieni MediaPlayer installano.       =20
enduser.exe 4.46M Non piuttosto sicuro quello che installa.       =20
       =20
=C8 perportedly v6 se la mia memoria non ha fallito=20
completamente.       =20
       =20
Ho su mano se Lei vuole ma non pu=F2 ottenere in MS      =20


OK - "perportedly" isn't in the damned translator's=20
vocabulary yet.

Try "supposed to be"...
nahm an, zu sein=20
suppos=E9 =EAtre
supuesto para ser
supposto essere

I no longer read/write/speak German, French, or Spanish
& neither my wife or daughter can correct me very often=20
in Italian.  *I* translate more for my wife than she does
for me, & it's *her* mother tongue!  I recall very little
Arabic or TexMex, either!

If I live long enough, I *may* get the translator to cover
most of it's languages.

<G>
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Having trouble w/ some of the recipients of your e-mail
attachments because of the size restrictions?  I found
the perfect answer the other night following a discussion
about file-packing & file-splitting.  Well, the splitting
actually came from one of my websites - it has a 172K max
download per file to cut down bandwidth.

Anyway, the answer is on http://www.winsite.com, in the "w"
section of the Win31 area.  It splits files into # of pieces
or pieces by size & you have the option of the results being
self re-assembling.  It is FAST & very neat!

wsplit13.zip (62.1K)  $10US shareware by our very own Hannu 
Pohjanheimo & is written in GFA-W(16)!

Great going, Hannu!
<G>
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List Member "Bev Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
Hey Tom:

I started using NORTON's Commander when I first came over to PCs; when I
went to windows I found a program named Win Commander which was more like
Commander than Norton's own version. Anyways, one of the little goodies
built-in is a file splitter/recombinder (is there such a word???  <g>)!
Works beautifully & Win Commander has 2 listboxes (works both ways) so I
*never* use 'My Computer' (ug!)
You can find the latest version at:

http://www.ghisler.com/

                             -->Bev<--

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> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Having trouble w/ some of the recipients of your e-mail
> attachments because of the size restrictions?  I found
> the perfect answer the other night following a discussion
> about file-packing & file-splitting.  Well, the splitting
> actually came from one of my websites - it has a 172K max
> download per file to cut down bandwidth.
>
> Anyway, the answer is on http://www.winsite.com, in the "w"
> section of the Win31 area.  It splits files into # of pieces
> or pieces by size & you have the option of the results being
> self re-assembling.  It is FAST & very neat!
>
> wsplit13.zip (62.1K)  $10US shareware by our very own Hannu
> Pohjanheimo & is written in GFA-W(16)!
>
> Great going, Hannu!
> <G>
> TomR.
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
At 06:58 AM 16/04/00 -0400, you wrote:
>List Member "Bev Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
>Hey Tom:
>
>I started using NORTON's Commander when I first came over to PCs; when I
>went to windows I found a program named Win Commander which was more like
>Commander than Norton's own version. Anyways, one of the little goodies
>built-in is a file splitter/recombinder (is there such a word???  <g>)!
>Works beautifully & Win Commander has 2 listboxes (works both ways) so I
>*never* use 'My Computer' (ug!)
>You can find the latest version at:
>
>http://www.ghisler.com/
>
>                             -->Bev<--
>

Know'im.  Am playing w/ his unzip.dll

Donno Commander of any breed.
<G>
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com>
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> GFA16 NEWS LETTERS
> 
> GFANL173.ZIP
> GFANL174.ZIP
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> @GFAWHELP.GFA.NET

Hi Dale !  You ever gonna update my cookie ??  :)
Making good progress in Pyramax Library.  Associating
words instead of number pointers to simplify their
usage.

Got the magic sparkles =VERY= nice !

Sincerely,
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
http://www.cdrom.com/pub/infozip/ 

unz532d.zip  88.1K     unzip16.dll  152K

zip22d.zip   77.2K     zip16.dll    123K

Borland source is in both pkgs.  Encryption is
NOT included, but is available from another
Swiss dir/source because of U.S. laws.

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--- Tom Record
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> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> http://www.cdrom.com/pub/infozip/ 
> 
> unz532d.zip  88.1K     unzip16.dll  152K
> 
> zip22d.zip   77.2K     zip16.dll    123K
> 
> Borland source is in both pkgs.  Encryption is
> NOT included, but is available from another
> Swiss dir/source because of U.S. laws.
> 
> <G>
> TomR.

Thanks for the info Tom !  Finally found them,
read instructions on use, okay, very VERY
complex !  :/

Well my compiler FINALLY arrived so I can put out .DLL
of Pyramax Library which does include PKUNZIP, but
I'll
see if I can get PKZIP easily in there too.

Geesh doesn't anyone know all this C structure stuff
is almost impossible for me to read ??  I won't
have any of that in mine !

Grace me with about a month guys (and gals), it'll
probably take me that long to figure out how to make
a .DLL with the mass of PROCEDUREs and FUNCTIONs I
have currently.  :)

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
What do you mean a month?  How about Friday, David?

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> List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> --- Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> > List Member Tom Record
> > <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> > http://www.cdrom.com/pub/infozip/
> >
> > unz532d.zip  88.1K     unzip16.dll  152K
> >
> > zip22d.zip   77.2K     zip16.dll    123K
> >
> > Borland source is in both pkgs.  Encryption is
> > NOT included, but is available from another
> > Swiss dir/source because of U.S. laws.
> >
> > <G>
> > TomR.
>
> Thanks for the info Tom !  Finally found them,
> read instructions on use, okay, very VERY
> complex !  :/
>
> Well my compiler FINALLY arrived so I can put out .DLL
> of Pyramax Library which does include PKUNZIP, but
> I'll
> see if I can get PKZIP easily in there too.
>
> Geesh doesn't anyone know all this C structure stuff
> is almost impossible for me to read ??  I won't
> have any of that in mine !
>
> Grace me with about a month guys (and gals), it'll
> probably take me that long to figure out how to make
> a .DLL with the mass of PROCEDUREs and FUNCTIONs I
> have currently.  :)
>
> Sincerely,
> David W.
>
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
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At 04:58 PM 17/04/00 -0700, you wrote:
>List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
>What do you mean a month?  How about Friday, David?
>
>Dale Bryant
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>
>> List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> --- Tom Record
>> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> > List Member Tom Record
>> > <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> > http://www.cdrom.com/pub/infozip/
>> >
>> > unz532d.zip  88.1K     unzip16.dll  152K
>> >
>> > zip22d.zip   77.2K     zip16.dll    123K
>> >
>> > Borland source is in both pkgs.  Encryption is
>> > NOT included, but is available from another
>> > Swiss dir/source because of U.S. laws.
>> >
>> > <G>
>> > TomR.
>>
>> Thanks for the info Tom !  Finally found them,
>> read instructions on use, okay, very VERY
>> complex !  :/
>>
>> Well my compiler FINALLY arrived so I can put out .DLL
>> of Pyramax Library which does include PKUNZIP, but
>> I'll
>> see if I can get PKZIP easily in there too.
>>
>> Geesh doesn't anyone know all this C structure stuff
>> is almost impossible for me to read ??  I won't
>> have any of that in mine !
>>
>> Grace me with about a month guys (and gals), it'll
>> probably take me that long to figure out how to make
>> a .DLL with the mass of PROCEDUREs and FUNCTIONs I
>> have currently.  :)
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> David W.
>>
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
David
Get used to & adept in "C" involvement... that's how GFA works.

You can't have FUNCTIONs in *.dlls.

PK will want a license to include their stuff in your *.exe
UNLESS you are just calling *THEIRS*.  pkunzip is all of theirs
you can expect to find on *any* PC... MS included it in Windows.
Ya better make certain to scan the boot drive for the windows
system dir & DON'T forget... it won't necessarily be called
"windows\system"!  Use the GFA or WinAPI GetSystemDir.  That's
where the unzipper will be *IF* it's there.

G'luck!
TomR.


At 04:38 PM 17/04/00 -0700, you wrote:
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>> List Member Tom Record
>> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> http://www.cdrom.com/pub/infozip/ 
>> 
>> unz532d.zip  88.1K     unzip16.dll  152K
>> 
>> zip22d.zip   77.2K     zip16.dll    123K
>> 
>> Borland source is in both pkgs.  Encryption is
>> NOT included, but is available from another
>> Swiss dir/source because of U.S. laws.
>> 
>> <G>
>> TomR.
>
>Thanks for the info Tom !  Finally found them,
>read instructions on use, okay, very VERY
>complex !  :/
>
>Well my compiler FINALLY arrived so I can put out .DLL
>of Pyramax Library which does include PKUNZIP, but
>I'll
>see if I can get PKZIP easily in there too.
>
>Geesh doesn't anyone know all this C structure stuff
>is almost impossible for me to read ??  I won't
>have any of that in mine !
>
>Grace me with about a month guys (and gals), it'll
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--- Tom Record
> Go get'im, Dale <G>
> <G>

--- Dale Bryant
>What do you mean a month?  How about Friday, David?

Hey kiddies if you're gonna be like that I'll just
take my sweet time about it and stretch it out to
two months !  :)

Sincerely,
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:


--- Tom Record
> Go get'im, Dale <G>
> <G>

--- Dale Bryant
>What do you mean a month?  How about Friday, David?

Hey kiddies if you're gonna be like that I'll just
take my sweet time about it and stretch it out to
two months or maybe wrap it as a Christmas
present for 2001 !  :)

- * -

Near as I can tell, the SHELL command in GFA has
proven itself to be highly unreliable, unstable,
and unwilling to work 100% of the time.

Either I will need to learn or have someone show
me a better way besides SHELL and EXEC or not permit
PKUNZIP at all.

New updates will reflect lack of UNZIP and possibly
RLE packed bitmaps.  It's unfortunate, but GFA
could've done a much better job on DOS SHELL..

And to answer your question, yes, multiple calls to
SHELL or EXEC even after the prior one has finished
can and will cause the computer to crash where a
complete power-down is needed..  :/

I knew SHELL was unreliable but I didn't think it
would start to trash my computer if I called it more
then once..  Even QBasic never did that..

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member "Bev Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
> You can't have FUNCTIONs in *.dlls.
Sure you can Tom; so long as they're internal to the DLL!  <g>

                             -->Bev<--

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> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> David
> Get used to & adept in "C" involvement... that's how GFA works.
>
> You can't have FUNCTIONs in *.dlls.
>
> PK will want a license to include their stuff in your *.exe
> UNLESS you are just calling *THEIRS*.  pkunzip is all of theirs
> you can expect to find on *any* PC... MS included it in Windows.
> Ya better make certain to scan the boot drive for the windows
> system dir & DON'T forget... it won't necessarily be called
> "windows\system"!  Use the GFA or WinAPI GetSystemDir.  That's
> where the unzipper will be *IF* it's there.
>
> G'luck!
> TomR.
>
>
> At 04:38 PM 17/04/00 -0700, you wrote:
> >List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >--- Tom Record
> ><tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> >> List Member Tom Record
> >> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> >> http://www.cdrom.com/pub/infozip/
> >>
> >> unz532d.zip  88.1K     unzip16.dll  152K
> >>
> >> zip22d.zip   77.2K     zip16.dll    123K
> >>
> >> Borland source is in both pkgs.  Encryption is
> >> NOT included, but is available from another
> >> Swiss dir/source because of U.S. laws.
> >>
> >> <G>
> >> TomR.
> >
> >Thanks for the info Tom !  Finally found them,
> >read instructions on use, okay, very VERY
> >complex !  :/
> >
> >Well my compiler FINALLY arrived so I can put out .DLL
> >of Pyramax Library which does include PKUNZIP, but
> >I'll
> >see if I can get PKZIP easily in there too.
> >
> >Geesh doesn't anyone know all this C structure stuff
> >is almost impossible for me to read ??  I won't
> >have any of that in mine !
> >
> >Grace me with about a month guys (and gals), it'll
> >probably take me that long to figure out how to make
> >a .DLL with the mass of PROCEDUREs and FUNCTIONs I
> >have currently.  :)
> >
> >Sincerely,
> >David W.
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:


--- Bev Brown <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
> List Member "Bev Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com>
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> > You can't have FUNCTIONs in *.dlls.
> Sure you can Tom; so long as they're internal to the
> DLL!  <g>
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Oh ?  I didn't know that.

Thanks Bev !  :)

3 of them are internal to itself.

Sincerely,
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Okay, I'm delving a bit deeper into SHELL to see
what might be causing difficulty.  I came across a
command called "ShellExecute" in the "WIN31WH.HLP"
file but I cannot find any working examples for it.

Could someone please post one or refer me to one
where I can find them ?

Or at least how to access the arguments in it ?

HWND hwnd;	/* handle of parent window	*/
LPCSTR lpszOp;	/* address of string for operation to
perform	*/
LPCSTR lpszFile;	/* address of string for filename	*/
LPCSTR lpszParams;	/* address of string for
executable-file parameters	*/
LPCSTR lpszDir;	/* address of string for default
directory	*/
int fsShowCmd;	/* whether file is shown when opened	*/

~shellexecute(?,?,?,?,?,)

Thanks !

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Now, now David.  I have seen your work. Friday show be ample time.(G)

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> List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>
> --- Tom Record
> > Go get'im, Dale <G>
> > <G>
>
> --- Dale Bryant
> >What do you mean a month?  How about Friday, David?
>
> Hey kiddies if you're gonna be like that I'll just
> take my sweet time about it and stretch it out to
> two months !  :)
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List Member "Eberhard Funck" <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de> wrote:
Hallo David,

Here a little example:
Betreff: [gfabasic] The Shell Game (Guess where the marble is!)

 To open a folder, use the following call:

 ~ShellExecute(0, "open", "c:\", 0, 0, SW_SHOWNORMAL)

 To explore a folder, use the following call:
  WinDir$ = "C:\Windows"
 ~ShellExecute(0, "explore", WinDir$, 0, 0, SW_SHOWNORMAL)

Out of GB32 demo files:
' ShellExecute(hwnd,Operation,File,Parameters,Directory,Show)
' hwnd: Parent window or 0
' Operation: String, either "open" (opens the file; EXEcutables or
associated
'            file names allowed)
'            or "print" (prints the file; only associated file names
allowed)
' File: String, name of the EXEcutable or associated file
' Parameters: String; contains the Parameter, if File is an EXEcutable
' Directory: specifies the working directory
' Show: one of the SW_XXXX constants; if File is an associated file,
'       Show should be zero

I hope it's helpfull.

Greetings

Eberhard



|List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:


|Okay, I'm delving a bit deeper into SHELL to see
|what might be causing difficulty.  I came across a
|command called "ShellExecute" in the "WIN31WH.HLP"
|file but I cannot find any working examples for it.
|
|Could someone please post one or refer me to one
|where I can find them ?
|
|Or at least how to access the arguments in it ?
|
|HWND hwnd; /* handle of parent window */
|LPCSTR lpszOp; /* address of string for operation to
|perform */
|LPCSTR lpszFile; /* address of string for filename */
|LPCSTR lpszParams; /* address of string for
|executable-file parameters */
|LPCSTR lpszDir; /* address of string for default
|directory */
|int fsShowCmd; /* whether file is shown when opened */
|
|~shellexecute(?,?,?,?,?,)
|
|Thanks !
|
|Sincerely,
|David W.
|
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
The following files can be found in WICKER.ZIP.  David has his own
progtramming style.
You really should check out wicker.zip
----------------------------------------------------

BIT8TO7.LST  : Include 8-bit binary files in your GFA DATA sourcecode
BUBASHER.LST : Removes all .BAK & .TMP files from drive of your choice
BUBBLES.LST  : Animated colored bubbles Screen-Teaser with st-ret-ch
CATHEDRL.LST : Simple example of sweeping pixels
CHAR8.LST    : Good demonstration of developing your own custom typefaces
COLRCHEK.LST : Makes a LOG of your window color limitations
COOKIE.LST   : Cut out cookies with this unusual and complex program
CRYSWAVE.LST : Crystal Waves, test out your graphic card with this one
HEARTS.LST   : Draws nice 3-D hearts in blush red and pink pastel
HOTKEYS.LST  : Pulls out the correct ID # for the GETKEYSTATE function
JUKEBOX.LST  : Nice animated mechanical arm single play Jukebox
KALEI.LST    : Kaleidoscope, millions of colors to enchant you
KILLMOUS.LST : Don't use HIDEM & SHOWM, use this it works every time
LASERZAP.LST : Tiny little shoot-em-up game written by me & Russell Hayward
MELT.LST     : "Melts" your entire screen  Good example of plot anywhere
MIDI&WAV.LST : Shows effective use of the MCI$ statement to play MIDI & Wavs
MRMAGNFY.LST : Doesn't work on all computers  Nice enlarged viewer lens
MYCRYPTR.LST : Probe deep into the ancient mysteries of cryptology
QUICK.LST    : Simple example showing how to plot faster then ~setpixel
RUBBROOM.LST : Answers the question on how to get the top-left &
bottom-right
SAVEBMP.LST  : Easy and understandable technique for saving bitmap files
SERIAL.LST   : Extract out the serial # from your computer's hard-drive
SHOWFONT.LST : Example of discontinued Vector Library
SPRXAMPL.LST : Good example of flicker-free animation & sprite movement
SWIRL3.LST   : Danger  Mesmerizing eye candy (Dale)
UNZIPPER.LST : PKUnzips any PKZip file & includes picture decompressor
WINDCHIM.LST : Very nice play Wind Chimes background or Aura meditation

Dale Bryant
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Dale, if you think it worthy of inclusion....
Will pull it's weight as a dirlist & can be altered to include
attribs, date stamp & time stamp - see FGETDTA() in gfahelp.hlp.  
By using a generic "*.*" extension, it will list ALL files where 
you send it (just remember to not use the renaming feature).
--------------------- cut here ---------------------------
/* lstfiles.lst - lists files of desired type, sorted, to a file.
/* Gives you a dirprint for a given file format (as is).
/* By REMming file write lines, no file will be written
/* By unREMming several lines, it will list to screen
/* By unREM/REM 2 lines, will also rename files of a given format, NO Undo,
however!
/* TomR.  use or abuse

OPENW #1        /* necessary only if you want to see it work
DIM bmp$(200)   /* change "(200)" to suit your need
DEFMOUSE 2      /* hourglass cursor

TYPE dta:
- CHAR *21 fs_donttouch$
- BYTE  fs_attr
- CARD  fs_time
- CARD  fs_date
- LONG  fs_size
- CHAR *14 fs_name$
ENDTYPE

dta% = FGETDTA()             /* data is loaded into dta%, NOT a%
/* e% = FSFIRST("full path"+"*.gif",%10001) /* if other location
e% = FSFIRST("*.gif",%10001)
/* set extension above to file format you want
WHILE e% => 0
  q$ = {dta%}.fs_name$
  bmp$(q&) = q$
  q& ++
  /*  q$ = q$ + " - " + STR$({dta%}.fs_size) /* filesize if desired
  /*  PRINT q$;" "; /* printing to screens SLOWS me down!
  e% = FSNEXT()
WEND

QSORT bmp$(),q&
/* call it "playlist.xxx" or whatever you desire.
OPEN "o",#1,"filelist.dat"
FOR i& = 0 TO q&
  @NewName       /* you decide... to rename the files
  /* @ListFiles  /* or NOT to rename them
NEXT i&

DEFMOUSE 0                 /* standard arrow cursor
CLEAR                      /* clear the variables from memory
CLOSEW #1
END

PROCEDURE ListFiles
  /*  PRINT bmp$(i&);"  "; /* printing to screen SLOWS me down!
  PRINT #1, bmp$(i&)
  TITLEW #1,bmp$(i&)       /* yes, *this* slows me down, also!
RETURN

PROCEDURE NewName
  qp& ++
  IF qp& < 10 THEN qp$ = "00" + STR$(qp&)
  IF qp& > 9 AND qp& < 100 THEN qp$ = "0" + STR$(qp&)
  IF qp& > 99 AND qp& < 1000 THEN qp$ = STR$(qp&)
  /* DOS 8.3, w/ 3 digits taken by numbers above
  /* don't forget the extension!
  new$ = "syl" + qp$ + ".gif"
  old$ = bmp$(i&)
  RENAME old$ AS new$
  /*  PRINT new$;"  ";     /* printing to screen SLOWS me down!
  TITLEW #1,bmp$(i&)       /* yes, *this* slows me down, also!
RETURN

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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
DYSCODE2..ZIP  from Allan Shura - Check It Out!!
-------------------------------
I enclose the following example program in .LST format for contribution. It
is a short example of conversion from Atari V 3.5 To Windows V 4.38.
' SYCODELA2 COPYRIGHT c 1992-2000 ALLAN SHURA  All rights reserved

Dale Bryant
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:


--- Dale Bryant <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com>
> wrote:
> Now, now David.  I have seen your work. Friday show
> be ample time.(G)
> 
> Dale Bryant

Dale, the entry in your page looks very nice !
PLEASE put my name in front as you have done for
every other single package in there by the
respective author.  Not everyone is going to know
Wicker means me.  Other then that, looks sharp !
Thanks !  :)

Well Dale, you want the good news or the bad news ?
The good news is the compiler works, and ran my
Pyramax Library in its entirety, no change of code
needed.  Very nice.  :)  Further, DOS SHELL under it
works outstandingly well !  No need for delays,
hiccups, timeout searches, system interrupts, or
anything, it does all the correct housekeeping but
only
in the compiled .EXE, not in the interpreter or
interpreter's crippled .EXE.

Which shows me the demo interpreter I have must be
positively ancient and the compiler is top of the
line very brand new.

The bad news is my package was supposed to include
documentation to using the compiler.

Well, I have a little over 100 pages of documentation
on how to use the GFA Compiler.  But it didn't come
from the order I placed !  Fortunately, I had this
already in anticipation of the compiler, it's in a
strange Envoy format so I can't print it tho.  :/

Maaaaan even with Lunar Eternal Blue for the
playstation I got:

+ Full color cloth map
+ 2 CDs for the game
+ 1 Music with Singing and vocals CD 90 minutes
+ 1 45 minute CD movie making of Lunar Eternal Blue
+ Very nice leather hard bound instruction book
Cost ?  $50

What did I get from GFA ?
+ Very fast response in mail, thanks !
+ Compiler, very effective, no real speed difference
  or notice of code size change by changing speed/size
  I received the Compiler on 1 floppy diskette
+ One big advertising CD of products I don't have
  (and don't really apply to GFABasic)
+ 3 pages typewritten instructions on usage, one
  single paragraph explaining DLL creation
Cost ?  $125

Well, it might be because I went through an American
company.  Doubtless now if I bought it straight from
Germany of GFA itself, I would've gotten:

+ A Cheese and Sausage Sampler Platter
+ Leather Hard Bound 100 page Book for The Compiler
+ Amazing Travel Postcard from Germany
+ Updated Interpreter as a Bonus for buying Compiler

(No, not this little trip David..)  :/

But, when all is said and done.  I am pleased that
the compiler took my Pyramax Library as is, no
modifications needed and compiled the very first time.
That's a nice feeling !  :)

I've tested P/L on Dad's computer, one very old
Win 3.1 386, and am going to test it at home.

If it works, and I think it will, -PERHAPS- Dale,
I might finish this week.  Remember tho, I'm going
to want to have a gazillion bells & whistles before
I release it tho, especially since DOS SHELL
works (I know I've said it before but I think it's
really REALLY true now), 100% working DOS SHELL !
Which means my programs that use DOS SHELL such as
SaveBMP, WindChimes, and BackupBasher, will work
EVERY time but you need to buy the compiler if you
haven't already done so folks for it to work 100%
correctly !

^o^

Sincerely,
David W.

SneakPeekCredits will be released at the same time
of the Pyramax Library .DLL.

Also, I still don't have any files or related to the
remainder of the normal non "~" commands that are not
listed in GFABasic for Windows.  An example of this
would be: control, button, and several other commands
mentioned in sourcecode only in Dale's GFAWHELP file
that are not covered in another help file.

If you can point me in the right direction, I would
appreciate it, thanks !

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List Member MISER@LCIA.COM (Micromiser, Inc) wrote:
Compiler advice: avoid "Fast", use "Small". Fast has a rare bug that's
bitten me a few times. Keep forgetting, setting back to Fast, bites me
again. Takes all kinds of time to to diagnose.

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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
You are correct, Steve. I always use Small.
How is Micromiser doing?
dale

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> List Member MISER@LCIA.COM (Micromiser, Inc) wrote:
> Compiler advice: avoid "Fast", use "Small". Fast has a rare bug that's
> bitten me a few times. Keep forgetting, setting back to Fast, bites me
> again. Takes all kinds of time to to diagnose.
>
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:


--- Eberhard Funck <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de>
wrote:
> List Member "Eberhard Funck"
> <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de> wrote:
> Hallo David,
> 
> Here a little example:
> Betreff: [gfabasic] The Shell Game (Guess where the
> marble is!)
> 
>  To open a folder, use the following call:
> 
>  ~ShellExecute(0, "open", "c:\", 0, 0,
> SW_SHOWNORMAL)
> 
>  To explore a folder, use the following call:
>   WinDir$ = "C:\Windows"
>  ~ShellExecute(0, "explore", WinDir$, 0, 0,
> SW_SHOWNORMAL)
> 
> Out of GB32 demo files:
> '
>
ShellExecute(hwnd,Operation,File,Parameters,Directory,Show)
> ' hwnd: Parent window or 0
> ' Operation: String, either "open" (opens the file;
> EXEcutables or
> associated
> '            file names allowed)
> '            or "print" (prints the file; only
> associated file names
> allowed)
> ' File: String, name of the EXEcutable or associated
> file
> ' Parameters: String; contains the Parameter, if
> File is an EXEcutable
> ' Directory: specifies the working directory
> ' Show: one of the SW_XXXX constants; if File is an
> associated file,
> '       Show should be zero
> 
> I hope it's helpfull.

And the one Email that takes the longest to reply to
is the one that was the most helpful.  :)

Correct use of SHELL opens up many doors for me,
the most important being PKUNZIP.  PKZIP can be done
as well I think if I can understand the compiler a
little better.

Eberhard !  Appreciate it very much !  It seems that
the GFA Compiler fixes all of these nasty errors in
SHELL, but I still would like to apply what you have
shown me above !  Found a really kicking piece of
music I'll use in SneakPeekCredits.  I'm over at my
Dad's and he's got some guests from Germany.

(No it's not about GFA) :)  They're just some of my
Mom's side of the family came to visit.

(Maybe I can have them translate some of these
 German source code files for me !)

Waiting on some outdoor hamburgers being made, yah
I'm just messing around on Dad's computer.
Okay !  :)

Dale, thanks for the update !
No, no live dancing girls giving you credit for
SETMOUSE in P/L, but the next best thing, full
tilt animation and kicking music !  ^o^

Same goes for Russell Hayward (OBVIOUSLY!! :) ! )
and of course Mr. Loock once I put in the MIDI NOTE
routines (and I understand a little better what the
 ! is going on)

Sincerely,
David W.

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--- "Micromiser, Inc" <MISER@LCIA.COM> wrote:
> List Member MISER@LCIA.COM (Micromiser, Inc) wrote:
> Compiler advice: avoid "Fast", use "Small". Fast has
> a rare bug that's
> bitten me a few times. Keep forgetting, setting back
> to Fast, bites me
> again. Takes all kinds of time to to diagnose.
> 
> -----
> Steve Thornton
> 

Thanks for this info Steve !  Will definitely apply it
towards my compilations.  :)

I brought up your homepage to see what kinna software
you have written and it's very complex stuff !
All kinds of checking book software okay..
I wrote a checkbook program back in QBasic many years
ago.  You probably already know this, but it's nice to
be able to work with a checkbook or ledger of any
size.  Instead of using limited local arrays, consider
the most powerful random access files !

(Yah this is me teaching a grandmaster fisherman how
 to bait a hook with a worm and fish with a stick
when he's got a powerboat and uses Craftmaster
Fishing Rod and brass lures) (Smile!)

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member MISER@LCIA.COM (Micromiser, Inc) wrote:
Hi Dale,

Thanks for asking. And thanks for keeping the list alive! (along with TomR).

Micromiser (me) just finished Lynnes Colorscaping Guide, a plant directory
written in GFA. This one merits heavy marketing, haven't started that yet.

Now doing final testing of a large commercial application for my web site to
run on SeriousB (written in GFA). General purpose POS, billing, invoicing,
payables, checking, accounting...Figure another week.

Did a JPG viewer in 3 days with Delphi ("world's simplest JPG viewer so
every family member can view the pictures"). I'm working on a JPG DLL that
will read anything on any 32-bit Windows machine: corrupted, progressive,
etc., also faster than WECJLIB and better quality on resizing, also
appropriate for picture viewers (preloading). Already working and in use.
Just another day or two to clean it up when I get some time. Will be free to
this list, will include the thunk code to call from 16-bit.

Plan to convert Colorscaping Guide into general-purpose picture/directory
program (in GFA using the JPG DLL). Got a hobby with lots of pictures? Use
this to market it or describe to other hobbyists, also corporate email
presentations, etc. All your input (descriptions/text/categorization/jpg
names) goes into one text file with a section for each page, encryption to
protect pictures.

Also plan to convert my personal JPG viewer (GFA) to "worlds most
professional JPG manager" to manage thousands of JPG's. I use it to manage
my wife's flower pictures. But to get a full range of JPG types/formats for
testing <yeah, sure>, I must load samples from the newsgroups. Tough job,
but somebody's got to do it <g>.

Also plan to do a DLL to publish database info to the web, CGI, ActiveX,
email, client/server etc. This using Delphi, but sockets to integrate with
my GFA business software. That's a big project, a year or so.

I promised a campground business application by next month. Wonder where
I'll fit that in.

So there's Micromiser's vaporware list as of today. Will change tomorrow...

So, what's new at GFAWHELP??? I know, read the newsletter!

Thanks again for your efforts. Really, you are helping a lot of people
beyond the call of duty.

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List Member MISER@LCIA.COM (Micromiser, Inc) wrote:
Hi David,

Thanks for increasing my hit count, and thanks for the generous compliments,
not really deserved. I'm more of a "software organizer" (output/second) than
programmer. I have to compete with Quickbooks and Access. They're always
improving their damn products <g>. But it's easy to "out-organize" them. For
example, with GFA (now in combination with Delphi) I can match the output of
5-10 programmers using C, partly due to the inefficiencies of team
programming in general, and especially if they program during the day...My
brain doesn't wake up until about 1:00am, result of being a musician for
many years.

Obviously I don't have time to do much hacking, why this list is so valuable
to me including your contributions. I especially appreciate code within the
messages since I can scan it quickly for any gems... I read every message,
and if the experts don't answer, and if I have something to contribute, I will.

Most software at www.micromiser.com is freeware; the other products are free
to anyone in this list (except I need $5 to burn/mail the "Colorscaping"
CD). Just say the secret word ("GFA") in the email registration...

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--- "Micromiser, Inc" <MISER@LCIA.COM> wrote:
> List Member MISER@LCIA.COM (Micromiser, Inc) wrote:
> Hi David,
> 
> Thanks for increasing my hit count, and thanks for
> the generous compliments,
> not really deserved. I'm more of a "software
> organizer" (output/second) than
> programmer. I have to compete with Quickbooks and
> Access. They're always
> improving their damn products <g>. But it's easy to
> "out-organize" them. For
> example, with GFA (now in combination with Delphi) I
> can match the output of
> 5-10 programmers using C, partly due to the
> inefficiencies of team
> programming in general, and especially if they
> program during the day...My
> brain doesn't wake up until about 1:00am, result of
> being a musician for
> many years.
> 
> Obviously I don't have time to do much hacking, why
> this list is so valuable
> to me including your contributions. I especially
> appreciate code within the
> messages since I can scan it quickly for any gems...
> I read every message,
> and if the experts don't answer, and if I have
> something to contribute, I will.
> 
> Most software at www.micromiser.com is freeware; the
> other products are free
> to anyone in this list (except I need $5 to
> burn/mail the "Colorscaping"
> CD). Just say the secret word ("GFA") in the email
> registration...
> 
> -----
> Steve Thornton

What is ColorScaping ?  Some kind of color adjust
picture program ?  I might like to see that !  :)

I had my homepage up years ago but never =COULD=
figure out how to hook a counter into it, and I
ESPECIALLY couldn't figure out how to put in a
Guestbook.

You're right about being organized !
When I wrote checkmaster years ago, it was dirt
simple, but my Dad, Chris, my videogame friend,
and lots of my BBS acquaintances wanted a copy because
it WAS so easy to use.  :)

It looked just like a checkbook ledger and had
lead-you-by-the-hand instructions for every single
step, and it allowed you to enter literally a
billion entries if you so desired.  Lots of good
software today seems to put limits on things, and
it doesn't make any sense !  Because GFA has limits
I see somewhere along the future I need to write
a SHELL programming language specifically for
videogames that will use entirely virtual memory
so you can create arrays that are 200 megabytes
big or so if you desire.

Yah I still feel kinna outta place being the only
non C+ programmer in here, does that mean I'm
A+ ?  My friends in Email tease and taunt me quite
a bit but agree I've written some nice .EXEs.
(They don't want to see the sourcecode cause its
 not QBee)..

Putting sourcecode in here is okay but if you try to
cut and paste it, oftentimes you get a line that
goes over the boundaries..  I think you've got like
maybe 40 characters or so before its gonna mess up
so it'd be nice if someone would post both the ASCII
in here to sorta read and then a PKZIP download
attachment beneath.

You said you're a musician ?  What kind of music
have you written ?  The stuff I've written falls
along the same lines as Bo Hannson, Vangelis,
Mike Oldfield, Steve Coulter, and Yanni.  Very much
New-Wave.  :)

Won silver award solo piano years ago at a talent
competition.  Yah I wrote music then to keep from
hurting inside, I think lots of musicians are that
way.

Regarding one-man-team operation, years ago I worked
for American Church Lists, a database company.

Well, they had software that took 2 days to compute
and sort church data.  Well, I looked at it obviously
couldn't figure it out cause although I can program
in C++, I can't read others cause they program
different from the way I do.  Anyways, I rewrote the
lot of it, where it only took 2 hours to compute
the same data.  Hooked in bells, whistles, colored
lights, and a <ooooooooh!> Screen-Saver !  I hadda
blast.  :)

That was many years ago.  But, like all companies
I worked for, they squeezed outta me the software
they wanted and so much fired or dismissed me..
That gets hard on your ego after a-while..

Okay I'm off on a left limb so I better close.
I'll post a working example of a .DLL next post.

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hiya Folks !
Okay, well I got the GFA compiler and hadda chance to
play with it okay.

Here is how to make a DLL !

* * * * *

8< -- [ this file is called "MYDLL.GFW" ]

DEFINT "A-Z"
$LIBRARY MYDLL        ' <-- Name of DLL to make !

PROCEDURE Stars(DC,V) ' <-- use PTR for $TRING
  $EXPORT Stars       ' <-- routine name to export
  LOCAL A$
  A$="*"+CHAR{V}+"*"  ' <-- CHAR recreates $TRING
  SETDC DC            ' <-- you must set the screen
  TEXT 0,0,A$         ' <-- PRINT won't work
  FREEDC DC           ' <-- FREE up your DC
RETURN

* * * * *

8< -- [ this file is called "RUNDLL.GFW" ]

DEFINT "A-Z"

DLL #1,"MYDLL.DLL"    ' <-- name of DLL to load
  DECL INT Stars(L,L) ' <-- DECLARE what is used
ENDDLL                ' <-- END DLL declarations

OPENW #1,120,90,400,300,-1

A$="Hello!"+CHR$(0)   ' <-- CHAR#0 required !
~@@Stars(_DC(1),A$)   ' <-- call the DLL
KEYGET Z              ' <-- Wait for that keypress
CLOSEW #1             ' <-- Keep Life Tidy !
FREEDLL 1             ' <-- FREE up DLL we opened

* * * * *

Footnotes, hey put your shoes back on, it's
only a term you think you're gonna write this
down with that BIG TOE !  :)

Okay, the $LIBRARY says that instead of making a
.EXE you will be making a .DLL file.  To do this,
you MUST have the GFA Compiler, you can't do this
only in the GFA Trial Version.

To create a .DLL, compile the .GFW file that says
it wants to be a .DLL exactly the same way as if you
wanted a .EXE file.  GFA is a real smartie-pants
so it'll make it a .DLL file for you.

The "$EXPORT" compiler command says the name of
the PROCEDURE you want it to be called as a .DLL
file.  I named it the same as the true PROCEDURE's
name to keep it simple.

You can't use strings in DLLs so we're using a pointer
with the curly brackets "{" and "}"
CHAR{V}  means that we recreate a string based on the
value of "V" which is the POINTER to a string.

You need SETDC because DLLs are blind to knowing any
other windows you may have already set up !
Also "PRINT" does not work.  I'm not sure why, but
TEXT does work so use it.  Huuuuuum !!

Since we used SETDC, you must then use FREEDC to get
back the memory used to point to it.

You can use  RETVAL [number]  if you want to return
a value since functions CANNOT be returned back to
the main program that is calling the actual DLL.
Functions within the DLL itself that just call other
parts to itself are perfectly OK tho.

* * * * *

Okay !  So we got the first program down, now let's
look at the 2nd one, the one that actually calls the
.DLL we created.

We're assigning much in the same way we use OPEN to
open a file, #1 to reference this DLL in the
DLL #1  statement.  The name in quotes is obviously
the DLL filename to make use of in this program.

Don't forget the extension ".DLL" it is required !

DECL is an abbreviation for DECLARE and the L in caps
means that we are going to return a LONG value, that
is, 4 bytes to get a single integer, maybe too big for
this program but if you make all your variables long
integer, you won't have to convert anything later.
:)

Notice that we have two LONG values we're looking for,
one being the DC window pointer, and the other being
the pointer to a string because remember, you can't
transfer over STRINGs as they are to any DLL
procedures.

ENDDLL to close up the definitions and, of course, if
you had additional DLL procedures you wanted to define
you could include those, or =LEAVE= some definitions
out if you didn't plan to make use of those
particular ones specifically.  Your program would be
a bit smaller and easier to follow by not including
all the DLL definitions especially if you hadn't
planned to make use of all of them.

In A$, we're making a nice simple string but notice
the trailing character # 0 (zero).  This is required
any time you plan to transfer just the POINTER of a
string or GFA might get confused about the length of
it sometime and enter in more characters then are
actually there (you don't want that right ??)  :)

"~@@" Nasty looking.  Okay, truth time, there are no
actual PROCEDUREs in DLLs, everything is actually
interpreted as a FUNCTION.  The "~@@" means that you
want to call this FUNCTION with no returning value.
If you did want a value, you'd leave out the "~"
giving you:

Result=@@Stars(A,B)

Okay, back to the DLL line.
Since we've declared both arguments as LONG INTEGER,
the first entry is DC(1), which of course, points to
the window we opened.

A$ is the string we want, notice how we don't have to
have a pointer to it or anything !  GFA is =SMART=
enough to know that we declared it as LONG INTEGER
so it automatically sends just the POINTER of the
string to our DLL FUNCTION (or PROCEDURE), whichever
makes it easier in your head to think about.  :)

I know this is tedious stuff but it's good and we're
all most done.

KEYGET Z   to just wait for a keystroke.
CLOSEW #1  to close the window we opened.

And VERY important, the last line,
FREEDLL 1  to close the DLL we opened for use.

* * * * *

The results ?  With the GFABasic Compiler, you can
create custom libraries others can enjoy and make use
of without sharing some of your deepest darkest and
most diresome and desirable source code secrets that
you slaved months over.  That's for the other guys
to produce so you can =PUT= them in your =OWN= DLL !

Just be sure to give credit to the original author
if you borrow anything from anyone's sourcecode for
either your FREEWARE, SHAREWARE, and now .DLL files !
:)

Hope This Helps !

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi Steve !  Read your letter OKAY,
ColorScaping is not a graphic program then but
a plant directory ?  Rose might like that.

Okay you all so said that you have a .JPG
picture viewer ?  Well, I'd like to include .JPG
ability in P/L but only if I have the ability to
save it as well and includes such good factors as:

[Color]
1.  B&W Dither
2.  8 bits Grey Scale
3.  8 bits Full Color
4. 24 bits True Color

[JPEG Encoder Type]
1. Accurate Integer
2. Fast Integer
3. Floating Point

[Compression Quality]
1-100%

[Smooth Factor]
1-100%

[Restart Interval in MCU row unit]
0-65535

[Quantization Factor]
HSample 1-4
VSample 1-4

[Progressive JPG]
Yes/No

And if it could be accessed =REALLY= easy like:

SaveJPG FileName$,DC,H,V,X,Y,C,E,Q,S,R,Q1,Q2,P

That'd be great I could put that in the
Pyramax Library and, of course, give you full CREDIT
for the routine.

Please Let Me Know !

Well, going to work on P/L a bit.
C-ya !

Sincerely,
David W.

> Hi Dale,
 
> Thanks for asking. And thanks for keeping the list
> alive! (along with TomR).

> Also plan to do a DLL to publish database info to
> the web, CGI, ActiveX,
> email, client/server etc. This using Delphi, but
> sockets to integrate with
> my GFA business software. That's a big project, a
> year or so.

> So, what's new at GFAWHELP??? I know, read the
> newsletter!
 
> Thanks again for your efforts. Really, you are
> helping a lot of people
> beyond the call of duty.
 
> Steve Thornton


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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Here a little example:
> Betreff: [gfabasic] The Shell Game (Guess where the
> marble is!)
> 
>  To open a folder, use the following call:
> 
>  ~ShellExecute(0, "open", "c:\", 0, 0,
> SW_SHOWNORMAL)

* Tried this, GFA went biip and won't accept the
  line.  My GFA is GFABASIC 4.38 FOR WINDOWS.

> 
>  To explore a folder, use the following call:
>   WinDir$ = "C:\Windows"
>  ~ShellExecute(0, "explore", WinDir$, 0, 0,
> SW_SHOWNORMAL)

* Same here..

Please let me know what I'm doing wrong so I can
get it right for me !  Thanks.  :)

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
David
you *may* be bucking something out of reach.  You have W98,
which *should* handle this, but.......

W95 OSR & Win98 *should* be compatable.  W95a would buck up
& barf on this little ditty.

The current interpretor is 4.38.  The current compiler is 1.07.

I find that quite often, some tiny tidbit is left out of samples
that drives one absolutely crazy trying to figure out alone.  This
may be what you are up against.  NOT that the omission is deliberate,
it normally turns out to be something done without thought by a very
busy person who has lost track of some tidbits.
<G>
TomR.


At 08:33 AM 19/04/00 -0700, you wrote:
>List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Here a little example:
>> Betreff: [gfabasic] The Shell Game (Guess where the
>> marble is!)
>> 
>>  To open a folder, use the following call:
>> 
>>  ~ShellExecute(0, "open", "c:\", 0, 0,
>> SW_SHOWNORMAL)
>
>* Tried this, GFA went biip and won't accept the
>  line.  My GFA is GFABASIC 4.38 FOR WINDOWS.
>
>> 
>>  To explore a folder, use the following call:
>>   WinDir$ = "C:\Windows"
>>  ~ShellExecute(0, "explore", WinDir$, 0, 0,
>> SW_SHOWNORMAL)
>
>* Same here..
>
>Please let me know what I'm doing wrong so I can
>get it right for me !  Thanks.  :)
>
>Sincerely,
>David W.
>
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
BRAVO!
This should be made into a *.hlp file, to be called by Roland's
gfa.exe's "tools" menu in the interpretor.  A very significant
contribution, David.  Thanks for sharing the info!
<G>
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At 08:08 AM 19/04/00 -0700, you wrote:
>List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Hiya Folks !
>Okay, well I got the GFA compiler and hadda chance to
>play with it okay.
>
>Here is how to make a DLL !
>
>* * * * *
>
>8< -- [ this file is called "MYDLL.GFW" ]
>
>DEFINT "A-Z"
>$LIBRARY MYDLL        ' <-- Name of DLL to make !
>
>PROCEDURE Stars(DC,V) ' <-- use PTR for $TRING
>  $EXPORT Stars       ' <-- routine name to export
>  LOCAL A$
>  A$="*"+CHAR{V}+"*"  ' <-- CHAR recreates $TRING
>  SETDC DC            ' <-- you must set the screen
>  TEXT 0,0,A$         ' <-- PRINT won't work
>  FREEDC DC           ' <-- FREE up your DC
>RETURN
>
>* * * * *
>
>8< -- [ this file is called "RUNDLL.GFW" ]
>
>DEFINT "A-Z"
>
>DLL #1,"MYDLL.DLL"    ' <-- name of DLL to load
>  DECL INT Stars(L,L) ' <-- DECLARE what is used
>ENDDLL                ' <-- END DLL declarations
>
>OPENW #1,120,90,400,300,-1
>
>A$="Hello!"+CHR$(0)   ' <-- CHAR#0 required !
>~@@Stars(_DC(1),A$)   ' <-- call the DLL
>KEYGET Z              ' <-- Wait for that keypress
>CLOSEW #1             ' <-- Keep Life Tidy !
>FREEDLL 1             ' <-- FREE up DLL we opened
>
>* * * * *
>
>Footnotes, hey put your shoes back on, it's
>only a term you think you're gonna write this
>down with that BIG TOE !  :)
>
>Okay, the $LIBRARY says that instead of making a
>.EXE you will be making a .DLL file.  To do this,
>you MUST have the GFA Compiler, you can't do this
>only in the GFA Trial Version.
>
>To create a .DLL, compile the .GFW file that says
>it wants to be a .DLL exactly the same way as if you
>wanted a .EXE file.  GFA is a real smartie-pants
>so it'll make it a .DLL file for you.
>
>The "$EXPORT" compiler command says the name of
>the PROCEDURE you want it to be called as a .DLL
>file.  I named it the same as the true PROCEDURE's
>name to keep it simple.
>
>You can't use strings in DLLs so we're using a pointer
>with the curly brackets "{" and "}"
>CHAR{V}  means that we recreate a string based on the
>value of "V" which is the POINTER to a string.
>
>You need SETDC because DLLs are blind to knowing any
>other windows you may have already set up !
>Also "PRINT" does not work.  I'm not sure why, but
>TEXT does work so use it.  Huuuuuum !!
>
>Since we used SETDC, you must then use FREEDC to get
>back the memory used to point to it.
>
>You can use  RETVAL [number]  if you want to return
>a value since functions CANNOT be returned back to
>the main program that is calling the actual DLL.
>Functions within the DLL itself that just call other
>parts to itself are perfectly OK tho.
>
>* * * * *
>
>Okay !  So we got the first program down, now let's
>look at the 2nd one, the one that actually calls the
>.DLL we created.
>
>We're assigning much in the same way we use OPEN to
>open a file, #1 to reference this DLL in the
>DLL #1  statement.  The name in quotes is obviously
>the DLL filename to make use of in this program.
>
>Don't forget the extension ".DLL" it is required !
>
>DECL is an abbreviation for DECLARE and the L in caps
>means that we are going to return a LONG value, that
>is, 4 bytes to get a single integer, maybe too big for
>this program but if you make all your variables long
>integer, you won't have to convert anything later.
>:)
>
>Notice that we have two LONG values we're looking for,
>one being the DC window pointer, and the other being
>the pointer to a string because remember, you can't
>transfer over STRINGs as they are to any DLL
>procedures.
>
>ENDDLL to close up the definitions and, of course, if
>you had additional DLL procedures you wanted to define
>you could include those, or =LEAVE= some definitions
>out if you didn't plan to make use of those
>particular ones specifically.  Your program would be
>a bit smaller and easier to follow by not including
>all the DLL definitions especially if you hadn't
>planned to make use of all of them.
>
>In A$, we're making a nice simple string but notice
>the trailing character # 0 (zero).  This is required
>any time you plan to transfer just the POINTER of a
>string or GFA might get confused about the length of
>it sometime and enter in more characters then are
>actually there (you don't want that right ??)  :)
>
>"~@@" Nasty looking.  Okay, truth time, there are no
>actual PROCEDUREs in DLLs, everything is actually
>interpreted as a FUNCTION.  The "~@@" means that you
>want to call this FUNCTION with no returning value.
>If you did want a value, you'd leave out the "~"
>giving you:
>
>Result=@@Stars(A,B)
>
>Okay, back to the DLL line.
>Since we've declared both arguments as LONG INTEGER,
>the first entry is DC(1), which of course, points to
>the window we opened.
>
>A$ is the string we want, notice how we don't have to
>have a pointer to it or anything !  GFA is =SMART=
>enough to know that we declared it as LONG INTEGER
>so it automatically sends just the POINTER of the
>string to our DLL FUNCTION (or PROCEDURE), whichever
>makes it easier in your head to think about.  :)
>
>I know this is tedious stuff but it's good and we're
>all most done.
>
>KEYGET Z   to just wait for a keystroke.
>CLOSEW #1  to close the window we opened.
>
>And VERY important, the last line,
>FREEDLL 1  to close the DLL we opened for use.
>
>* * * * *
>
>The results ?  With the GFABasic Compiler, you can
>create custom libraries others can enjoy and make use
>of without sharing some of your deepest darkest and
>most diresome and desirable source code secrets that
>you slaved months over.  That's for the other guys
>to produce so you can =PUT= them in your =OWN= DLL !
>
>Just be sure to give credit to the original author
>if you borrow anything from anyone's sourcecode for
>either your FREEWARE, SHAREWARE, and now .DLL files !
>:)
>
>Hope This Helps !
>
>Sincerely,
>David W.
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
I buy very few *.dlls because of their prices, but if this
can be made available cheaply, I'll buy.  Also... would be
ready to collect & sell pop & beer cans to buy the *.lib
version to eliminate having to carry along a *.dll.  To buy
*anything* at the moment is nearly impossible, but a way
can be found.  We have free read *.dlls & only one free
save *.dll, none of which is very fast, none of which give
a user *any* control over how it is accomplished.
<G>
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>List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Hi Steve !  Read your letter OKAY,
>ColorScaping is not a graphic program then but
>a plant directory ?  Rose might like that.
>
>Okay you all so said that you have a .JPG
>picture viewer ?  Well, I'd like to include .JPG
>ability in P/L but only if I have the ability to
>save it as well and includes such good factors as:
>
>[Color]
>1.  B&W Dither
>2.  8 bits Grey Scale
>3.  8 bits Full Color
>4. 24 bits True Color
>
>[JPEG Encoder Type]
>1. Accurate Integer
>2. Fast Integer
>3. Floating Point
>
>[Compression Quality]
>1-100%
>
>[Smooth Factor]
>1-100%
>
>[Restart Interval in MCU row unit]
>0-65535
>
>[Quantization Factor]
>HSample 1-4
>VSample 1-4
>
>[Progressive JPG]
>Yes/No
>
>And if it could be accessed =REALLY= easy like:
>
>SaveJPG FileName$,DC,H,V,X,Y,C,E,Q,S,R,Q1,Q2,P
>
>That'd be great I could put that in the
>Pyramax Library and, of course, give you full CREDIT
>for the routine.
>
>Please Let Me Know !
>
>Well, going to work on P/L a bit.
>C-ya !
>
>Sincerely,
>David W.
>
>> Hi Dale,
> 
>> Thanks for asking. And thanks for keeping the list
>> alive! (along with TomR).
>
>> Also plan to do a DLL to publish database info to
>> the web, CGI, ActiveX,
>> email, client/server etc. This using Delphi, but
>> sockets to integrate with
>> my GFA business software. That's a big project, a
>> year or so.
>
>> So, what's new at GFAWHELP??? I know, read the
>> newsletter!
> 
>> Thanks again for your efforts. Really, you are
>> helping a lot of people
>> beyond the call of duty.
> 
>> Steve Thornton
>
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Pat just wrote me a bit saying I can use "^"
instead of the longer "@@" yah I started poking thru
all the squirrely little "|" "/" "%" "#" "?" stuff

All so he said I can't referrence a string that
too easy a way if it's bigger then 128 char. soooo
here's my solution, and a neater way to do it !

~^Stars(_DC(1),@S("Hello!"))

FUNCTION S(A$)
  A$=A$+CHR$(0)
  RETURN V:A$
ENDFUNC

This way:
+ You don't need to force a variable every time
+ You can link lots of them together A$+B$+"!"+MID$()
+ It all ways puts that CHAR # 0 on the tip tail end
+ It can go bigger than just 128 characters

* Just include that itty bitty function in every
program   you write that wants needing access that old
DLL !

Hope This Helps !

And =THANK YOU= Pat for pointing out some of this
stuff to me !  :)

Sincerely,
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:


--- Tom Record >> 
> BRAVO!
> This should be made into a *.hlp file, to be called
> by Roland's
> gfa.exe's "tools" menu in the interpretor.  A very
> significant
> contribution, David.  Thanks for sharing the info!
> <G>
> TomR.

You really think so ??  Thanks !  (Big Smile!)

Sorry i gotten all paranoid again near the end,
was talking with someone wants me write them something
and I got all bristly again thinking of the other
jobs I worked and got ripped at yah I know it's all
behind me , save it for my head shrinker :)

Ohh and how do you make a help file ?  I wanna do this
for Pyramax Library cause its gonna be such a huge
monster !  Okay >>

Sincerely,
David W.

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--- Tom Record
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> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> David
> you *may* be bucking something out of reach.  You
> have W98,
> which *should* handle this, but.......
> 
> W95 OSR & Win98 *should* be compatable.  W95a would
> buck up
> & barf on this little ditty.
> 
> The current interpretor is 4.38.  The current
> compiler is 1.07.
> 
> I find that quite often, some tiny tidbit is left
> out of samples
> that drives one absolutely crazy trying to figure
> out alone.  This
> may be what you are up against.  NOT that the
> omission is deliberate,
> it normally turns out to be something done without
> thought by a very
> busy person who has lost track of some tidbits.
> <G>
> TomR.

Huuum..  Well, I don't know if it's this or something
else..  I forgotten you guys (and gals who are
awfully quiet in here! :) ) , you all so have
Win32 GFA which I don't want cause it seems to be
all resource hungry or something, anyways I want
this stuff to work on my Win3.1 laptop.  It's a 286
and my little P/L runs super fast on it !  Very nice !

You can have colored fish backdrop, marble, leaves,
anything you want and it creates a whole biggo window
with only 14 BITBLTs all ready written.
It's super fast okay

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
David
Maple Syrup won't sweeten a sour, bitter lime.  I
compliment, I mean it.  I'll send you a fairly
simple helpfile maker directly unless you'd rather
have somebody else do it.  This one came from
LayWin, a long-ago defunct "black box" appl builder
that was based on VCC.  Worthless unless you know
how to make working "black boxes".  Can't call a
*.dll at all.
<G>
TomR.


At 01:06 PM 19/04/00 -0700, you wrote:
>List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>--- Tom Record >> 
>> BRAVO!
>> This should be made into a *.hlp file, to be called
>> by Roland's
>> gfa.exe's "tools" menu in the interpretor.  A very
>> significant
>> contribution, David.  Thanks for sharing the info!
>> <G>
>> TomR.
>
>You really think so ??  Thanks !  (Big Smile!)
>
>Sorry i gotten all paranoid again near the end,
>was talking with someone wants me write them something
>and I got all bristly again thinking of the other
>jobs I worked and got ripped at yah I know it's all
>behind me , save it for my head shrinker :)
>
>Ohh and how do you make a help file ?  I wanna do this
>for Pyramax Library cause its gonna be such a huge
>monster !  Okay >>
>
>Sincerely,
>David W.
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:

Well I haven't really gotten something to put you
in credits yet and if you could provide a helper
maker then I could use:

.HLP documentation assisted by Tom Record

Which sounds pretty snazzy.  :)
Let me know what you think, Dale wrote me said
he needed $LNK EXE to make my example work and well--
I didn't =HAVE= to so what is this ??

Okay
Sincerely,
David

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> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
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> Maple Syrup won't sweeten a sour, bitter lime.  I
> compliment, I mean it.  I'll send you a fairly
> simple helpfile maker directly unless you'd rather
> have somebody else do it.  This one came from
> LayWin, a long-ago defunct "black box" appl builder
> that was based on VCC.  Worthless unless you know
> how to make working "black boxes".  Can't call a
> *.dll at all.
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Tom, can you answer that, I got compiler errors without it.

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> List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Well I haven't really gotten something to put you
> in credits yet and if you could provide a helper
> maker then I could use:
>
> .HLP documentation assisted by Tom Record
>
> Which sounds pretty snazzy.  :)
> Let me know what you think, Dale wrote me said
> he needed $LNK EXE to make my example work and well--
> I didn't =HAVE= to so what is this ??
>
> Okay
> Sincerely,
> David
>
> --- Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> > List Member Tom Record
> > <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
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> > Maple Syrup won't sweeten a sour, bitter lime.  I
> > compliment, I mean it.  I'll send you a fairly
> > simple helpfile maker directly unless you'd rather
> > have somebody else do it.  This one came from
> > LayWin, a long-ago defunct "black box" appl builder
> > that was based on VCC.  Worthless unless you know
> > how to make working "black boxes".  Can't call a
> > *.dll at all.
> > <G>
> > TomR.
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
At 03:41 PM 19/04/00 -0700, you wrote:
>List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>Well I haven't really gotten something to put you
>in credits yet and if you could provide a helper
>maker then I could use:
>
>.HLP documentation assisted by Tom Record
>
>Which sounds pretty snazzy.  :)
>

Forget it.  If nothing I've sent you before is considered=20
help, just leave me out of it all.

>
>Let me know what you think, Dale wrote me said
>he needed $LNK EXE to make my example work and well--
>I didn't =3DHAVE=3D to so what is this ??
>

$LNK Res c:\bbox\bbox.res
$LNK Exe c:\bbox\bbox.exe
$Descr Black Box f=FCr Windows

You see... I don't help you at all, do I.

>
>Okay
>Sincerely,
>David
>
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>> LayWin, a long-ago defunct "black box" appl builder
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>> how to make working "black boxes".  Can't call a
>> *.dll at all.
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>> TomR.
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>Tom, can you answer that, I got compiler errors without it.
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>Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2000 3:41 PM
>Subject: Re: [gfabasic] The Farmer's In The DLL
>
I sent'im:
$LNK Res c:\bbox\bbox.res
// Anmerkung: F=FCr Interpreter-L=E4ufe sollte der Toolbar noch einmal als=
 Bitmap
//            vorhanden sein (siehe BBOX_ObjekteVorbereiten)
// Name der Exe-Datei: Zum Compilieren vollen Pfad eingeben!!!
$LNK Exe c:\bbox\bbox.exe
// $Name Black Box  darf nicht benutzt werden, mu=DF wenn, dann in *.RES
festgelegt werden!
// Beschreibung f=FCr Task-Manager
$Descr Black Box f=FCr Windows

W/o Joe's German comments.

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OK, Thanks Tom.
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Subject: Re: [gfabasic] The Farmer's In The DLL


List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
At 04:26 PM 19/04/00 -0700, you wrote:
>List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
>Tom, can you answer that, I got compiler errors without it.
>
>Dale Bryant
>http://gfawhelp.com
>http://gfawhelp.gfa.net
>adbryant@msn.com
>adbryant@gfa.net
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "David Wicker" <dw817@yahoo.com>
>To: <gfabasic@gfa.net>
>Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2000 3:41 PM
>Subject: Re: [gfabasic] The Farmer's In The DLL
>
I sent'im:
$LNK Res c:\bbox\bbox.res
// Anmerkung: Fr Interpreter-Lufe sollte der Toolbar noch einmal als
Bitmap
//            vorhanden sein (siehe BBOX_ObjekteVorbereiten)
// Name der Exe-Datei: Zum Compilieren vollen Pfad eingeben!!!
$LNK Exe c:\bbox\bbox.exe
// $Name Black Box  darf nicht benutzt werden, mu wenn, dann in *.RES
festgelegt werden!
// Beschreibung fr Task-Manager
$Descr Black Box fr Windows

W/o Joe's German comments.

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:


--- Tom Record
<tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> At 03:41 PM 19/04/00 -0700, you wrote:
> >List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >Well I haven't really gotten something to put you
> >in credits yet and if you could provide a helper
> >maker then I could use:
> >
> >.HLP documentation assisted by Tom Record
> >
> >Which sounds pretty snazzy.  :)
> >
>=20
> Forget it.  If nothing I've sent you before is
> considered=20
> help, just leave me out of it all.
>=20
> >
> >Let me know what you think, Dale wrote me said
> >he needed $LNK EXE to make my example work and
> well--
> >I didn't =3DHAVE=3D to so what is this ??
> >
>=20
> $LNK Res c:\bbox\bbox.res
> $LNK Exe c:\bbox\bbox.exe
> $Descr Black Box f=FCr Windows
>=20
> You see... I don't help you at all, do I.

Ahhm..  Actually Tom this doesn't help
cause I don't know what it means ??

Tom, if you think I using something in my code
that you should get credit for =3DPLEASE=3D speak out
and let me knowing and I'll be more happy then to
including it you in credits okay ?  :)

We can all learn from each other but sometimes you
have to share a few coding secrets.  I think I've
shared a fair amount of mine right ?

Sincerely,
David W.



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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:


--- Tom Record
<tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> At 04:26 PM 19/04/00 -0700, you wrote:
> >List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com>
> wrote:
> >Tom, can you answer that, I got compiler errors
> without it.
> >
> >Dale Bryant
> >http://gfawhelp.com
> >http://gfawhelp.gfa.net
> >adbryant@msn.com
> >adbryant@gfa.net
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "David Wicker" <dw817@yahoo.com>
> >To: <gfabasic@gfa.net>
> >Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2000 3:41 PM
> >Subject: Re: [gfabasic] The Farmer's In The DLL
> >
> I sent'im:
> $LNK Res c:\bbox\bbox.res
> // Anmerkung: F=FCr Interpreter-L=E4ufe sollte der
> Toolbar noch einmal als Bitmap
> //            vorhanden sein (siehe
> BBOX_ObjekteVorbereiten)
> // Name der Exe-Datei: Zum Compilieren vollen Pfad
> eingeben!!!
> $LNK Exe c:\bbox\bbox.exe
> // $Name Black Box  darf nicht benutzt werden, mu=DF
> wenn, dann in *.RES
> festgelegt werden!
> // Beschreibung f=FCr Task-Manager
> $Descr Black Box f=FCr Windows
>=20
> W/o Joe's German comments.
>=20

Greets Tom:

Well I'm a sending them back your ways cause I
can't read German !  :)

Sincerely,
David W.

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Subject: Re: [gfabasic] The Farmer's In The DLL
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> >Tom, can you answer that, I got compiler errors
>> without it.
>> >
>> >Dale Bryant
>> >
>> I sent'im:
>> $LNK Res c:\bbox\bbox.res
>
Compiler directive to link in the *.res so the finished *.exe
doesn't have a mess of small bitmaps to keep track of.

>
>> // Anmerkung: F=FCr Interpreter-L=E4ufe sollte der
>> Toolbar noch einmal als Bitmap
>> //            vorhanden sein (siehe
>> BBOX_ObjekteVorbereiten)
>> // Name der Exe-Datei: Zum Compilieren vollen Pfad
>> eingeben!!!
>> $LNK Exe c:\bbox\bbox.exe
>

Compiler directive, telling it you want an *.exe from it,
NOT a *.dll (you know it tries a *.dll first, don't you?)

>
>> // $Name Black Box  darf nicht benutzt werden, mu=DF
>> wenn, dann in *.RES
>> festgelegt werden!
>> // Beschreibung f=FCr Task-Manager
>> $Descr Black Box f=FCr Windows
>

Compiler directive, used by Task Manager.  I suspect that it checks
ALL files in the windows dir that have extensions that signify an
executable file.

$DESCR SCRNSAVE: TomR. - this tells Windows it's a screensaver
$LNK Exe c:\windows\tomr.scr - path for the compiler to write the file.
$Name TomR. - whatever you wanna call it, like BlackBox, above.

>>=20
>> W/o Joe's German comments.
>>=20
>
>Greets Tom:
>
>Well I'm a sending them back your ways cause I
>can't read German !  :)
>
>Sincerely,
>David W.
>

TomR.

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Just leave me out of the discussion & presentation of credit.
You made such an issue of all that it finally got to me.
TomR.

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--- Tom Record
<tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Just leave me out of the discussion & presentation
> of credit.
> You made such an issue of all that it finally got to
> me.
> TomR.

Greets Tom:

Well, as much as I hate to be the first to admit it,
when you're right, you're right !  :)  It was wrong
of me wanting to give credit to you or to try
and find a reason why.. sorry it got to be a problem,
I'll try not to disturb you anymore..

Well after several hours yah its 2am here I've come
across a few very nasty sidestrokes with DLL
development.  It required me to write my own keyboard
driver entirely from GETKEYSTATE (which I did), and
then further required me to write a complete graphic
window handler so I can send messages to them to
make changes in them (I did that), and then said if I
want to do any bitmap manipulation, I will have to
write my own entire set of routines for that
(which I also <getting frustrated now> did), but
the cherry is on top o' the whipped cream when it says
I =NOW= have to write every single variable driver
for every possible variable type, string, arrays,
and pointers.  Okay, this is getting out of hand,
I could sooner write GameDev then fight all this !
The cost of making a .DLL with LowBlur which has
a little over 120 PROCEDUREs and FUNCTIONs is too
taxing on my little brain !  :P

With what I've written I might as well put it all
to gather in GameDev.  If any one wants a copy of
LowBlur to see it running lemme know and I'll send it
your way.

Sorry Dale, doing all of the above for a .DLL
smacks strongly of programming in C++ .
That specifically is =NOT= the reason why I'm here.
:)

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member MISER@LCIA.COM (Micromiser, Inc) wrote:
Hi David and Tom,

I have no plans to incorporate writing JPG's in my JPG dll. But it seems
easy to add, so who knows. The only output options available to me are:
Quality (1-100), Grayscale (Yes/No), Depth (8 or 24), Progressive (yes/no).

Tom, any of my software is free to members of this list (and worth every
cent). This dll will be called from GFA-16, but only if run on a 32-bit machine.

David: keyboards, mostly organ. A lot like programming, but now only have 5
keyboards. Maybe if computers had pedals I could program faster...<g>.

Back to work. Everybody back to work. Work, work, work, work.

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List Member "Bev Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
Hey! Didn't I write something about this for GFAWHELP a long time ago; th=
e
onliest thing I would add (learnt it since then), is that a FUNCTION is O=
K
so long as it is internal to the DLL.

                             -->Bev<--

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com>
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> List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> OK, Thanks Tom.
> Dale Bryant
> http://gfawhelp.com
> http://gfawhelp.gfa.net
> adbryant@msn.com
> adbryant@gfa.net
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tom Record" <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net>
> To: <gfabasic@gfa.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2000 5:26 PM
> Subject: Re: [gfabasic] The Farmer's In The DLL
>
>
> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wro=
te:
> At 04:26 PM 19/04/00 -0700, you wrote:
> >List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> >Tom, can you answer that, I got compiler errors without it.
> >
> >Dale Bryant
> >http://gfawhelp.com
> >http://gfawhelp.gfa.net
> >adbryant@msn.com
> >adbryant@gfa.net
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "David Wicker" <dw817@yahoo.com>
> >To: <gfabasic@gfa.net>
> >Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2000 3:41 PM
> >Subject: Re: [gfabasic] The Farmer's In The DLL
> >
> I sent'im:
> $LNK Res c:\bbox\bbox.res
> // Anmerkung: F=FCr Interpreter-L=E4ufe sollte der Toolbar noch einmal =
als
> Bitmap
> //            vorhanden sein (siehe BBOX_ObjekteVorbereiten)
> // Name der Exe-Datei: Zum Compilieren vollen Pfad eingeben!!!
> $LNK Exe c:\bbox\bbox.exe
> // $Name Black Box  darf nicht benutzt werden, mu=DF wenn, dann in *.RE=
S
> festgelegt werden!
> // Beschreibung f=FCr Task-Manager
> $Descr Black Box f=FCr Windows
>
> W/o Joe's German comments.
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List Member "Bev Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
Hey Dave!  I'll take a copy; I'll look at anything....   <g>

                             -->Bev<--

----- Original Message -----
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>
>
> --- Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> > List Member Tom Record
> > <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> > Just leave me out of the discussion & presentation
> > of credit.
> > You made such an issue of all that it finally got to
> > me.
> > TomR.
>
> Greets Tom:
>
> Well, as much as I hate to be the first to admit it,
> when you're right, you're right !  :)  It was wrong
> of me wanting to give credit to you or to try
> and find a reason why.. sorry it got to be a problem,
> I'll try not to disturb you anymore..
>
> Well after several hours yah its 2am here I've come
> across a few very nasty sidestrokes with DLL
> development.  It required me to write my own keyboard
> driver entirely from GETKEYSTATE (which I did), and
> then further required me to write a complete graphic
> window handler so I can send messages to them to
> make changes in them (I did that), and then said if I
> want to do any bitmap manipulation, I will have to
> write my own entire set of routines for that
> (which I also <getting frustrated now> did), but
> the cherry is on top o' the whipped cream when it says
> I =NOW= have to write every single variable driver
> for every possible variable type, string, arrays,
> and pointers.  Okay, this is getting out of hand,
> I could sooner write GameDev then fight all this !
> The cost of making a .DLL with LowBlur which has
> a little over 120 PROCEDUREs and FUNCTIONs is too
> taxing on my little brain !  :P
>
> With what I've written I might as well put it all
> to gather in GameDev.  If any one wants a copy of
> LowBlur to see it running lemme know and I'll send it
> your way.
>
> Sorry Dale, doing all of the above for a .DLL
> smacks strongly of programming in C++ .
> That specifically is =NOT= the reason why I'm here.
> :)
>
> Sincerely,
> David W.
>
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
At 02:59 AM 20/04/00 -0400, you wrote:
>List Member MISER@LCIA.COM (Micromiser, Inc) wrote:
>Hi David and Tom,
>
>I have no plans to incorporate writing JPG's in my JPG dll. But it seems
>easy to add, so who knows. The only output options available to me are:
>Quality (1-100), Grayscale (Yes/No), Depth (8 or 24), Progressive (yes/no).
>

That's more than enough for most of us. (Nudge, nudge <G>)

>
>Tom, any of my software is free to members of this list (and worth every
>cent). This dll will be called from GFA-16, but only if run on a 32-bit
machine.
>

Good enough, Steve - it's far more than we have now!  I like your outlook - I
try (what choice do I have <G>?) to do so also.

>
>David: keyboards, mostly organ. A lot like programming, but now only have 5
>keyboards. Maybe if computers had pedals I could program faster...<g>.
>
>Back to work. Everybody back to work. Work, work, work, work.
>
>-----
>Steve Thornton
>

What the heck is everybody doin up at this hour?  It's 4:20 A.M. in Tulsa!
I'm learning how to generate submenus several levels deep under Sysmenu.
What's *your* excuse?
<G>
TomR.

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:


--- Bev Brown <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
> List Member "Bev Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com>
> wrote:
> Hey Dave!  I'll take a copy; I'll look at
> anything....   <g>
> 
>                              -->Bev<--
> 

Sure thing Bev.  :)  It's too big to fit in here !
Aggh !  It's 84k !  Soo I'll send it direct to your
Email box.  Enjoy !

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:


--- "Micromiser, Inc" <MISER@LCIA.COM> wrote:
> List Member MISER@LCIA.COM (Micromiser, Inc) wrote:
> Hi David and Tom,
> 
> I have no plans to incorporate writing JPG's in my
> JPG dll. But it seems
> easy to add, so who knows. The only output options
> available to me are:
> Quality (1-100), Grayscale (Yes/No), Depth (8 or
> 24), Progressive (yes/no).

* It's a good start !  Is this a routine you wrote
  yourself ?  If so, you are to be highly commended !

> 
> Tom, any of my software is free to members of this
> list (and worth every
> cent). This dll will be called from GFA-16, but only
> if run on a 32-bit machine.
> 
> David: keyboards, mostly organ. A lot like
> programming, but now only have 5
> keyboards. Maybe if computers had pedals I could
> program faster...<g>.

* I remember Mr. King, our church organist would let
  me try out some of my music after service.  I wrote
  really gothic horror and suspense stuff was fun.
  :)  On a piano, focused more towards chords
  change that put the -RUSH- up the back of your
  next neat stuff like that.

> 
> Back to work. Everybody back to work. Work, work,
> work, work.

* Yah well no DLL it seems for anyone, but, a good
  foundation for GameDev anyways.
  Maybe this is a good opportunity to put my
  homepage back together ?  Maybe..  :)

Sincerely,
David W.


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--- Bev Brown <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
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> Hey! Didn't I write something about this for
> GFAWHELP a long time ago; the
> onliest thing I would add (learnt it since then), is
> that a FUNCTION is OK
> so long as it is internal to the DLL.
> 
>                              -->Bev<--

Could be Bev..  Did you get credit for it ?

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:


--- Tom Record
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> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> At 02:59 AM 20/04/00 -0400, you wrote:
> >List Member MISER@LCIA.COM (Micromiser, Inc) wrote:
> >Hi David and Tom,
> >
> >I have no plans to incorporate writing JPG's in my
> JPG dll. But it seems
> >easy to add, so who knows. The only output options
> available to me are:
> >Quality (1-100), Grayscale (Yes/No), Depth (8 or
> 24), Progressive (yes/no).
> >
> 
> That's more than enough for most of us. (Nudge,
> nudge <G>)
> 

Yah well Tom I just like to get the best ya know ?  :)

Steve, if you could send a copy my way I could play
with it and maybe figure it out.

Dju like LowBlur ?
It's still in pretty rough stages and I see more and
more wanting to do GameDev with it more then anything
else.  Scenario can be written in GameDev with a bit
of work so may be that's good thing ?

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Yes, he got credit for it. It may be found in the GFAWHELP.HLP file and has
also been published in a news letter. It is very informative.
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> List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> --- Bev Brown <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
> > List Member "Bev Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com>
> > wrote:
> > Hey! Didn't I write something about this for
> > GFAWHELP a long time ago; the
> > onliest thing I would add (learnt it since then), is
> > that a FUNCTION is OK
> > so long as it is internal to the DLL.
> >
> >                              -->Bev<--
>
> Could be Bev..  Did you get credit for it ?
>
> Sincerely,
> David W.
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Subject: [gfabasic] Help with a DLL
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List Member Pat Bullman <pbullman@norex.com.au> wrote:
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Help! Please! Please! Please!

I'm creating a DLL for the Btree system, but I'm having a lot of
difficulties getting it to run.  I've created many DLL's in the past and
have never had this sort of trouble.

The problem is that every time I compile the code and try to test it, I get
a PEEK/POKE error.  However, I added the test code to the DLL code and run
(both in the Interpreter and as a exe) and it runs without fault.  I've
spent about 10 hours on this and am at my wits end.  Can anyone offer any
ideas, please. 

The Dll code and test code is attached.

Pat

PS I've added _EAX code to BtreeDll.lst simply to enable the demo code to
run.
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List Member "Bev Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
Sure did; take a look at Dale's GFAWHELP under DLL's!!!  <g>

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> List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> 
> --- Bev Brown <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
> > List Member "Bev Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com>
> > wrote:
> > Hey! Didn't I write something about this for
> > GFAWHELP a long time ago; the
> > onliest thing I would add (learnt it since then), is
> > that a FUNCTION is OK
> > so long as it is internal to the DLL.
> > 
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> Could be Bev..  Did you get credit for it ?
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List Member "Bev Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
T'ank u, Sir Dale!!!            <G>

                             -->Bev<--

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com>
To: <gfabasic@gfa.net>
Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2000 3:56 PM
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> List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> Yes, he got credit for it. It may be found in the GFAWHELP.HLP file and
has
> also been published in a news letter. It is very informative.
> dale
>
> Dale Bryant
> http://gfawhelp.com
> http://gfawhelp.gfa.net
> adbryant@msn.com
> adbryant@gfa.net
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Wicker" <dw817@yahoo.com>
> To: <gfabasic@gfa.net>
> Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2000 12:35 PM
> Subject: Re: [gfabasic] The Farmer's In The DLL
>
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> > List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > --- Bev Brown <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
> > > List Member "Bev Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > Hey! Didn't I write something about this for
> > > GFAWHELP a long time ago; the
> > > onliest thing I would add (learnt it since then), is
> > > that a FUNCTION is OK
> > > so long as it is internal to the DLL.
> > >
> > >                              -->Bev<--
> >
> > Could be Bev..  Did you get credit for it ?
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > David W.
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List Member MISER@LCIA.COM (Micromiser, Inc) wrote:
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>Well after several hours yah its 2am here I've come
>across a few very nasty sidestrokes with DLL
>development.  It required me to write my own keyboard
>driver entirely from GETKEYSTATE (which I did), and...

David, thought you might be amused with this keyboard routine I had to write
several years go, getting started off with GFA in the early days. Not really
useful to anybody, better ways to do it.

PROCEDURE KEYS         'assign keys names to KE$
  'for alt key see pg2 4-447,449
  K|=MENU(12)
  IF K|>95 AND K|<106 THEN K|=K|-48 'numbers on numeric keypad
  KE$=CHR$(K|)
  IF K|=13 THEN KE$="RET"
  IF K|=27 THEN KE$="ESC"
  IF K|=192 THEN KE$="TICK"
  IF K|=9 THEN KE$="TAB"
  IF K|=20 THEN KE$="CAPS"
  IF K|=16 THEN KE$="SHIFT"
  IF K|=17 THEN KE$="CTRL"
  IF K|=8 THEN KE$="BACK"
  IF K|=219 THEN KE$="OPEN" 'BRACKETS
  IF K|=221 THEN KE$="CLOSE"
  IF K|=220 THEN KE$="SLASH"
  IF K|=45 THEN KE$="INS"
  IF K|=46 OR K|=1 THEN KE$="DEL"
  IF K|=36 THEN KE$="HOME"
  IF K|=35 THEN KE$="END"
  IF K|=33 THEN KE$="PGUP"
  IF K|=34 THEN KE$="PGDN"
  IF K|=38 THEN KE$="UP"
  IF K|=40 THEN KE$="DOWN"
  IF K|=37 THEN KE$="LEFT"
  IF K|=39 THEN KE$="RIGHT"
  IF K|=106 THEN KE$="*"
  IF K|=107 THEN KE$="+"
  IF K|=109 THEN KE$="-"
  IF K|=110 THEN KE$="."
  IF K|=111 THEN KE$="/"
  IF K|=144 THEN KE$="" 'numlock
  IF K|>111 AND K|<124 THEN KE$="F"+STR$(K|-111) '112=F1 KEY
  IF K|=18 THEN KE$="" 'filter out <Alt>
  'translate Windows system keyboard return
  IF LEN(KE$)=1 THEN
    A$=CHR$(189)+CHR$(187)+CHR$(219)+CHR$(221)+CHR$(186)+CHR$(222)+CHR$(188)
+CHR$(190)+CHR$(191)+CHR$(192)
    IF SHIFT|=1 THEN
      C$="_+{}:"+CHR$(34)+"<>?~" 'These two translate certain <Shift> keys
to correct character
    ELSE
      C$="-=[];',./`"
    ENDIF
    A|=INSTR(A$,CHR$(K|))
    IF A|>0 THEN
      KE$=MID$(C$,A|,1)
    ELSE IF SHIFT|=1
      A$="1!2@3#4$5%6^7&8*9(0)-_=+[{]};:'"+CHR$(34)+",<.>/?\|"
      A|=INSTR(A$,KE$)
      IF A|>0 THEN
        KE$=MID$(A$,A|+1,1)
      ELSE
        IF CAPS|=1 THEN KE$=LCASE$(KE$)
      ENDIF
      IF K|=9 THEN KE$="SHIFTTAB"
    ELSE IF SHIFT|=0
      IF CAPS|=0 THEN KE$=LCASE$(KE$)
    ENDIF
  ENDIF
  IF KE$="SHIFT" THEN SHIFT|=1
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List Member MISER@LCIA.COM (Micromiser, Inc) wrote:
At 12:32 PM 4/20/00 -0700, you wrote:
>List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>* I remember Mr. King, our church organist would let
>  me try out some of my music after service.  I wrote
>  really gothic horror and suspense stuff was fun.
>  :)  On a piano, focused more towards chords
>  change that put the -RUSH- up the back of your
>  next neat stuff like that.
>
Gothic horror...a good foundation for Windows programming. If find a little
"Phantom of the Opera" in the background helps, especially with those
messages about the corrupted registry.

These day like raised 9th's, 11th's ala Jimmy Smith and 4's ala Groove
Holmes. Ever played a B3? (like Paul Shaefer on the Letterman show).

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List Member MISER@LCIA.COM (Micromiser, Inc) wrote:
>
>Steve, if you could send a copy my way I could play
>with it and maybe figure it out.
>
I'm just typing in lines from examples in Delphi and hitting the DLL button,
and it works. Not much creativity involved. Only thing left to hack is
translating 16/32 memory handles for the thunk call. Have the resources,
just not the time yet.

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:


--- Bev Brown <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
> List Member "Bev Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com>
> wrote:
> Sure did; take a look at Dale's GFAWHELP under
> DLL's!!!  <g>
> 

Yah well it's 6am here weird dreams I guess not going
to sleep more..  :)

I don't know, it seems like all this stuff is really
hard and complex to follow.  I know I've looked at
some source codes in QBasic, like MonoFighter for
instance which is a really good shoot-em-up, aside
from the fact that the sourcecode is 90% machine-
language, a real difficult trick to do in QBasic.
Some RPGs written in QB used RECORD type variables,
which I'm still not 100% sure how they work or why
I might wanna use them.

If I go to make my own programming language using
GFA as the shell.  I won't have to worry about people
crashing the computer cause of unclosed and unfound
bits & pieces that GFA seems to miss sometimes.
If they stay within my environment (and I can make it
a good comfortable creative gamemaking one), then
I can ensure safety for them, for me, and I'll have
a chance to see some games written in a unique style
of programming that matches pretty well my own but
is quite-a-bit easier to read and make videogames in.

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:


--- Bev Brown <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
> List Member "Bev Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com>
> wrote:
> Sure did; take a look at Dale's GFAWHELP under
> DLL's!!!  <g>
> 

Yah well it's 6am here weird dreams I guess not going
to sleep more..  :)

That's good you get credit, sometimes we work really
hard at something and you wanna at least pat on the
back or something for writing it 'specially if it's
really useful and pretty.

I don't know, it seems like all this stuff is really
hard and complex to follow.  I know I've looked at
some source codes in QBasic, like MonoFighter for
instance which is a really good shoot-em-up, aside
from the fact that the sourcecode is 90% machine-
language, a real difficult trick to do in QBasic.
Some RPGs written in QB used RECORD type variables,
which I'm still not 100% sure how they work or why
I might wanna use them.

If I go to make my own programming language using
GFA as the shell.  I won't have to worry about people
crashing the computer cause of unclosed and unfound
bits & pieces that GFA seems to miss sometimes.
If they stay within my environment (and I can make it
a good comfortable creative gamemaking one), then
I can ensure safety for them, for me, and I'll have
a chance to see some games written in a unique style
of programming that matches pretty well my own but
is quite-a-bit easier to read and make videogames in.

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member MISER@LCIA.COM (Micromiser, Inc) wrote:
At 02:23 PM 4/21/00 +1000, you wrote:
>Help! Please! Please! Please!
>
>I'm creating a DLL for the Btree system, but I'm having a lot of
>difficulties getting it to run.  I've created many DLL's in the past and
>have never had this sort of trouble.
>
>The problem is that every time I compile the code and try to test it, I get
>a PEEK/POKE error.  However, I added the test code to the DLL code and run
>(both in the Interpreter and as a exe) and it runs without fault.  I've
>spent about 10 hours on this and am at my wits end.  Can anyone offer any
>ideas, please. 
>
>The Dll code and test code is attached.
>
>Pat
>
>PS I've added _EAX code to BtreeDll.lst simply to enable the demo code to
>run.
>Attachment Converted: C:\EUDORA\Btree.zip
>
>
Pat, there's a "relative jump" bug I get rarely in a DLL. If that's what
you're getting, solution is to rearrange your DLL routines, or place an
entry point somewhere else in the code to jump to the start. Or just add
lines of dummy code in front of the entry point, maybe other places. I've
had to do all that at one point or another (not criticizing GFA, very stable
now overall). Also try setting the compiler to "small", "dword", "clear
locals" X use tool help. Everything I do gets "tool help" because it appears
to fix some relative jump compiler bugs, but not sure about this.

Maybe help, maybe not. Don't spend a lot of time on it. Could be a lot of
other things.

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--- "Micromiser, Inc" <MISER@LCIA.COM> wrote:
> List Member MISER@LCIA.COM (Micromiser, Inc) wrote:
> >
> >Well after several hours yah its 2am here I've come
> >across a few very nasty sidestrokes with DLL
> >development.  It required me to write my own
> keyboard
> >driver entirely from GETKEYSTATE (which I did),
> and...
> 
> David, thought you might be amused with this
> keyboard routine I had to write
> several years go, getting started off with GFA in
> the early days. Not really
> useful to anybody, better ways to do it.

Huum..  You're using MENU(12) to extract out a key ?
I didn't think of this..  I may stick with RawKey
for the minute cause it's kinna neat how you can make
your own keyboard driver, and I think it works even
if you're not in your window too.

All so, your routine doesn't look for multiple
keystrokes, I put a star "*" in front so I can do
this which is kinna neat:

IF INSTR(K$,"*UP*DN*LF*RT")
  PRINT"Arrow keystroke!"
ENDIF

I'll post updated HotKeys to show what I put together
for LowBlur..
[enclosed]

I'm in my Awaken music area and I'm listening to this
right now very nice to wake up to..  [enclosed]

Thanks for the code !  I'll file it away and once I
see the light I'll probably make use of MENU(12)
instead of GETKEYSTATE, appreciate the idea.  :)

Is it just me or does GFA ding that bell anytime you
hit an [ALT] A-Z keystroke ?  I'd like to have [ALT]
as a good valid keystroke but not if GFA is going to
chime its bell every time.  :/

Sincerely,
David W.

> PROCEDURE KEYS         'assign keys names to KE$
^ Filed away in my GFA Goodies, Thanks !  :)


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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:


--- "Micromiser, Inc" <MISER@LCIA.COM> wrote:
> List Member MISER@LCIA.COM (Micromiser, Inc) wrote:
> At 12:32 PM 4/20/00 -0700, you wrote:
> >List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >* I remember Mr. King, our church organist would
> let
> >  me try out some of my music after service.  I
> wrote
> >  really gothic horror and suspense stuff was fun.
> >  :)  On a piano, focused more towards chords
> >  change that put the -RUSH- up the back of your
> >  next neat stuff like that.
> >
> Gothic horror...a good foundation for Windows
> programming. If find a little
> "Phantom of the Opera" in the background helps,
> especially with those
> messages about the corrupted registry.
> 
> These day like raised 9th's, 11th's ala Jimmy Smith
> and 4's ala Groove
> Holmes. Ever played a B3? (like Paul Shaefer on the
> Letterman show).
> 
> Bye.

Ahhh huuuuum ??  I don't know a B3, played a Lap
Harp one time at a Renaissance Festival one time.
That was neat play just like piano Dad says I've
got my perfect pitch from Mom.  :)

Years ago I started writing music on the piano cause
of all the hurt inside growing up.  Dad was too bizzy
at work, Michelle my sister, well, she was into her
own thing which wasn't good, and I was just by myself
sooooo the music reflected me kinna.  I can taste
music and play along on a piano or synthesizer with,
any music I hear Dad says not every one does that.
I dunno about that I think any one can do it if they
just listen inside to their own music.  (Gentle Smile)

Sincerely,
David W.


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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:


--- "Micromiser, Inc" <MISER@LCIA.COM> wrote:
> List Member MISER@LCIA.COM (Micromiser, Inc) wrote:
> >
> >Steve, if you could send a copy my way I could play
> >with it and maybe figure it out.

No problem there.  I need to plonk down it figure
out .DIBs sometime pretty soon cause its supposed to
be faster and I just =LOVE= speedy things.  :)

Sincerely,
David W.

Take your time, I gotten all frustrated years ago
cause I write videogames for companies and they get
all mad cause I say its not done and they sell it
anyways and then I hate it cause its not really what
I wanted..  Don't let this happen.  Take your time..
:)

> I'm just typing in lines from examples in Delphi and
> hitting the DLL button,
> and it works. Not much creativity involved. Only
> thing left to hack is
> translating 16/32 memory handles for the thunk call.
> Have the resources,
> just not the time yet.
> 
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> Steve Thornton


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--- Bev Brown <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
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(Smile)  Well, that's good then.  I'm getting
everything all ready for GameDev and it's gonna be a
really neat project I know !  :)

For those of you who don't have the compiler
you really should think about getting it !
The .EXE codes it make are very tight, compact, and
if you use PKLITE it crunches even better !
Does any one out there know of a Win crunch better
then PKLITE please let me know cause I'm a looking !

Got my home page all together put today.
If you let it load all the way, it puts everything
in the page in its thinker so you can read it offline
too.  Dunno why most homepages don't do this okay !

Happy Easter Gang !  I've got a nice Easter Egg
marbleized maker on my page to download, Dale should
have the source code for those who wanna see how it
works.  Yah it's a real explosion of math but fun to
watch it thinking the colors !

Sincerely,
David W.
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LINKS PAGE- David Wickers GFA Home page added.
ESTREGGS.ZIP Easter Egg Graphics by David WIcker. NOTE: Limited time
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--- Dale Bryant <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
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> LINKS PAGE- David Wickers GFA Home page added.
> ESTREGGS.ZIP Easter Egg Graphics by David WIcker.
> NOTE: Limited time
> download.
> -----------------------
> Dale Bryant
> http://gfawhelp.com

Gonna make me feel all proud Dale !  :)

The Easter Egg thingie is sorta like my QBasic
button maker program, but cause Windows has a
gazillion colors, looks much prettier !

I didn't know it was Easter to morrow until Tanya
she lives in the room beside me sayed Easter is
coming !!  So I wrote it very quickly before I missed
out on Easter gets here !

Those eggs need some grass around them so that's
my next update !

Limited time, ahhhhmm,, I guess he means my home page
is a big download, let it all load once tho and you
can viewing the whole kit and kaboodle offline
very nice !

Happy Easter Every One !
)\        _ _  __ __  __ _  _
\\\   /\  /-/ /-/ /-' /-' `-/
 \\\_//\\  __  __   _ __  __  __
  /o o\)/ /-_ /-/ _(  /  /-_ /-<
  ==T==
  \ v /
I drew this years ago when we only had
7-bit graphics on BBSs !  Surprised I can still
draw 7-bit so well.  :)

Sincerely,
David W.

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>)\        _ _  __ __  __ _  _
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Your talent with Graphics and Images is truely wonderful.  Happy Easter to
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> 
> >)\        _ _  __ __  __ _  _
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> > \\\_//\\  __  __   _ __  __  __
> >  /o o\)/ /-_ /-/ _(  /  /-_ /-<
> > (==T==)
> >  \ v /
> 
> 
> Your talent with Graphics and Images is truely
> wonderful.  Happy Easter to
> you and Your Family.
> 
> Pat

(SMILE!)  Thanks Pat !

Oh I =JUST= today found one of my zip disks that
has like almost 500 .MOD music files.  I hadna heard
from it for about 3 years I was looking for Scotch
Tape (or any race type of tape I guess), :) , and
there
it was, beneath a AA battery I put in my pager.
Brought it up very nice !  Is there some kinna really
good type of .MOD player for GFA ?  If so, I can put
out some pretty .MOD, .S3M, and .XM sounding music to
go with .MID ?

Sincerely,
David W.

I'm starting to work on GameDev now but doodling a bit
with Easter Eggs too, I still want some green grass
around those eggs.  :)


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Okay !  Got the Easter Grass finally !
WHAT'S NEW ??
04-22-2000 * Easter Grass (This is where eggs can grow
into little bunnys)
           + Smarter thinker on where to put an egg
(smarter grass?)
           + Eggs are correct more looking they look
like for gumdrops left & right

Dale's got the source !
Enjoy !

Sincerely,
David W.

Yah now I gotta put together a greeting card, I have
a sorta greeting card maker I wrote already but I
still can't access those TTFs too well so I use
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
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Upgraded bitmap(h) routine.
Now recognizes 6 Codec signatures correctly & compressed
image colordepth correctly.  Note is made that if an 8-bit
image is run thru RLE, it comes out 8-bit.  However... if
you run an image greater than 8-bit thru it, *this* comes
out at your display's colordepth (16, 24, or maybe 32)!

Indications are that the Codecs use a four-char signature in 
the compression ID slot.... B.S.!  It runs as high as 10-char.

As usual, you are free to use & abuse, but please... if you
improve on it or add to it, please send me a copy.
<G>
TomR.

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:


--- Tom Record
<tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Upgraded bitmap(h) routine.
> Now recognizes 6 Codec signatures correctly &
> compressed
> image colordepth correctly.  Note is made that if an
> 8-bit
> image is run thru RLE, it comes out 8-bit. 
> However... if
> you run an image greater than 8-bit thru it, *this*
> comes
> out at your display's colordepth (16, 24, or maybe
> 32)!
> 
> Indications are that the Codecs use a four-char
> signature in 
> the compression ID slot.... B.S.!  It runs as high
> as 10-char.
> 
> As usual, you are free to use & abuse, but please...
> if you
> improve on it or add to it, please send me a copy.
> <G>
> TomR.
> 

Downloaded and tried your program Tom.
Very complex but useful for bitmap programmers
(that's not me!)

Since you're dealing with bunchies of non-linear
data (that is it can't be figured out instantly),
you might wanna use a look-up table, could make it
easier then all the IF statements.

DATA 1684633187,Cinepak (iccvid.dll)
DATA 842225225,Intel R3.2 (ir32_32.dll)

And of course throw it a good 240 characters across
not just limit one line like I got it.

Yah and Happy Easter to you too even if you are
a Grump sometimes.  :)

Dju get your basket of eggs yet ?

Sincerely,
David W.

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Tom, did you get that? A grump sometimes. Here I thought you were the
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> List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> --- Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> > Upgraded bitmap(h) routine.
> > Now recognizes 6 Codec signatures correctly &
> > compressed
> > image colordepth correctly.  Note is made that if an
> > 8-bit
> > image is run thru RLE, it comes out 8-bit.
> > However... if
> > you run an image greater than 8-bit thru it, *this*
> > comes
> > out at your display's colordepth (16, 24, or maybe
> > 32)!
> >
> > Indications are that the Codecs use a four-char
> > signature in
> > the compression ID slot.... B.S.!  It runs as high
> > as 10-char.
> >
> > As usual, you are free to use & abuse, but please...
> > if you
> > improve on it or add to it, please send me a copy.
> > <G>
> > TomR.
> >
>
> Downloaded and tried your program Tom.
> Very complex but useful for bitmap programmers
> (that's not me!)
>
> Since you're dealing with bunchies of non-linear
> data (that is it can't be figured out instantly),
> you might wanna use a look-up table, could make it
> easier then all the IF statements.
>
> DATA 1684633187,Cinepak (iccvid.dll)
> DATA 842225225,Intel R3.2 (ir32_32.dll)
>
> And of course throw it a good 240 characters across
> not just limit one line like I got it.
>
> Yah and Happy Easter to you too even if you are
> a Grump sometimes.  :)
>
> Dju get your basket of eggs yet ?
>
> Sincerely,
> David W.
>
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> List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
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> Happy Easter
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>
> > List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > --- Tom Record
> > <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> > > Upgraded bitmap(h) routine.
> > > Now recognizes 6 Codec signatures correctly &
> > > compressed
> > > image colordepth correctly.  Note is made that if an
> > > 8-bit
> > > image is run thru RLE, it comes out 8-bit.
> > > However... if
> > > you run an image greater than 8-bit thru it, *this*
> > > comes
> > > out at your display's colordepth (16, 24, or maybe
> > > 32)!
> > >
> > > Indications are that the Codecs use a four-char
> > > signature in
> > > the compression ID slot.... B.S.!  It runs as high
> > > as 10-char.
> > >
> > > As usual, you are free to use & abuse, but please...
> > > if you
> > > improve on it or add to it, please send me a copy.
> > > <G>
> > > TomR.
> > >
> >
> > Downloaded and tried your program Tom.
> > Very complex but useful for bitmap programmers
> > (that's not me!)
> >
> > Since you're dealing with bunchies of non-linear
> > data (that is it can't be figured out instantly),
> > you might wanna use a look-up table, could make it
> > easier then all the IF statements.
> >
> > DATA 1684633187,Cinepak (iccvid.dll)
> > DATA 842225225,Intel R3.2 (ir32_32.dll)
> >
> > And of course throw it a good 240 characters across
> > not just limit one line like I got it.
> >
> > Yah and Happy Easter to you too even if you are
> > a Grump sometimes.  :)
> >
> > Dju get your basket of eggs yet ?
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > David W.
> >
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Tom, did you get that? A grump sometimes. Here I
> thought you were the
> sweetest thing that there is.(G)
> Happy Easter
> Dale Bryant

That could be Dale, maybe..  :)

Okay, well Tom expressed a bit of concern in a letter
to me, it's private stuff so I not posting that,
but perhaps I have given some misgivings about my
goal and what I seek in sharing code.

Here's me:
* * *
(SMILE!)  Hey it's Easter !  Unless you become
completely possessed by the Great Big Bad Bunny and
start stealing everyone's EGGS, you're =MORE=
then welcome to run and enjoy Easter Eggs.
Remember tho, I write them just so people can
enjoy and LEARN from them.  If they are inspired
after running it, to write their own, perhaps one
better by having an =UNDERSTANDING= of how I wrote
mine, well that's perfectly alright !  :)

What's not good is when you borrow someone's code
and are totally clueless as to how it works or
functions without giving them credit.

I really don't havna idea how that .DLL thingie
works for the MIDI player so I gave credit to
Mr. Loock for the note player thingie.

I also don't really know what's gone on at all
in WindowLock.  I keep checking with Russell to
make sure I "got it right" way in the coding
cause it's hard to type those 3 lines sometimes.

I give credit to Dale (because he hardly ever gets
cross with me) :) , and all so because he showed me
how to change the image of a mouse pointer using
a technique I never would have found ever on my own.

I all ways give credit to someone for something,
especially if I can't figure it out even after I've
seen it.

I don't just write software Tom, I write music and
poetry too, here's one I sent to my Mom & Dad
in a nice little greeting card today:
* * *
For all the Easter Baskets filled with candy,
Chocolates, flowers, they all look dandy,
But like Christmas is and was before,
Have we forgotten what Easter is for ?

Time of our Savior Jesus Christ,
Who died for us, he paid the price,
But today he is resurrected from the dead
Let us celebrate for this reason instead.

Hold high the trumpets of festival
Come one come all let's hear him call
>From out of the streets no more to mourn,
We witness this miracle, Jesus Christ Reborn.
* * *

Now see, I'd get cross if you copied that word for
word and tried to claim it as your own, BUT if you
read it, and were inspired to write your OWN
original poetry, hey that's great and I =REALLY=
am happy for you !  :)

Have a good Easter Tom !  (Gentle Smile)
* * *
(And that goes for every one of you out there!)

Dad talk to me today said and that I should work to
making my own software company or something yah we'll
see in the future..  But I guess this is how all the
great videogame companies got started so who knows !

Did anybody try to munch too many chocolate rabbits ??
I got my basket from Dad and it hadda biggo solid
chocolate egg in there well just =NATURALLY= I had
to eat the whole dang thing !  Yah call the
paramedics another case of somebunny trying to eat
something bigger then their head !

(Is it just me or does the ingredient SUGAR cycle
 around every single major holiday??)

Happy >Urp!< Easter !  :)

Sincerely,
David W.


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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:


--- Dale Bryant <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com>
> wrote:
> UPDATE -GFA16 PAGE
> 
> ESTREGGS.ZIP
> By David Wicker.
> David put grass in your Easter basket.
> Limited Time download.
> Dale Bryant

Thanks Dale !  I'm actual doodling with it more
to make the eggs bigger to see but I'll post something
else a long with it before I do.  I see a way to
do WindowLock without doing any tricky commands.
It should work and be flawless and I gotta game in
mind for it.  It won't stop an image from  flickering
tho since it does everything on screen.  Will play
with it.

"Scenario", "Tika's Cards", and "Fruity Jam" are all
on hold until GameDev gets a bit more work done on it.

Sincerely,
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
David, there are lots of programmer here who are willing to help.
Looking forward.
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> List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> --- Dale Bryant <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> > List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com>
> > wrote:
> > UPDATE -GFA16 PAGE
> >
> > ESTREGGS.ZIP
> > By David Wicker.
> > David put grass in your Easter basket.
> > Limited Time download.
> > Dale Bryant
>
> Thanks Dale !  I'm actual doodling with it more
> to make the eggs bigger to see but I'll post something
> else a long with it before I do.  I see a way to
> do WindowLock without doing any tricky commands.
> It should work and be flawless and I gotta game in
> mind for it.  It won't stop an image from  flickering
> tho since it does everything on screen.  Will play
> with it.
>
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Has anybody played w/ making this damned thing keep the same Codec compressor 
& quality factor for a 2nd image?

Roland has never answered this question for me & I'm just about to take 
GFA-W(16) off here because I've wasted WEEKS on trying unsuccessfully to get 
it to NOT go to the SelectCompressor dialog when I want to compress a series 
of same-size, same colordepth images using the same compressor & quality factor.

I can go thru the whole damned procedure on a multiple image run, but I can't 
retain & reuse the chosen compressor or quality factor for subsequent images.  
This wastes a lot of time & labor - particularly when 100 or more images are 
involved!

Screensavers may involve over 50 images, easily.  Animation conversion can
involve 300-400 individual images!

Borland adds these compressed images to a *.res as BITMAP, instead of as
user-defined-resource.  Disappointment reigns & is rampant... particularly
since I now have an image provider wanting these "products" from me as a
single file.

The 2nd question involves pulling individual images out of *.rm & *.ram
files....  I can't find a common denominator or delimiting char or seq
so I can't convert these files to GFA-W(16) standalone animations.  For
*these*, we can be talking numbers approaching 1000-1500!  Particularly
when it involves tying a sequential group of *.rm or *.ram together as a 
single long-play stand-alone animation.  Man oh man, do *these* ever make
hellacious screensavers!  Reduced to individual images which are converted
to *.jpg, they can be handled as metafiles & made much larger than original
so the resulting screensaver can display'em full screen (or nearly so)!

TomR.

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Greets Tom:

RealAudio and RealVideo is probably pretty tricky
stuff !  However the Display graphic tool I use can
make .FLI files if that would help.  I made a few
.FLIs from multiple .GIFs with it.

Hope This Helps !

Now mind you, if you have found a way to play a
RealAudio/RealVideo file without going through their
own player, that might be pretty interesting !

I finally /\/ Zapped ! \/\  RealAudio/Video, got 
ad-ed one too many times.  Seems like their ads popped
up 6x a day !  Until they can stop drilling ads into
people I'll stay with my .MIDs and .MODs

Sincerely,
David W.

--- Tom Record
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> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Has anybody played w/ making this damned thing keep
> the same Codec compressor 
> & quality factor for a 2nd image?
> 
> Roland has never answered this question for me & I'm
> just about to take 
> GFA-W(16) off here because I've wasted WEEKS on
> trying unsuccessfully to get 
> it to NOT go to the SelectCompressor dialog when I
> want to compress a series 
> of same-size, same colordepth images using the same
> compressor & quality factor.
> 
> I can go thru the whole damned procedure on a
> multiple image run, but I can't 
> retain & reuse the chosen compressor or quality
> factor for subsequent images.  
> This wastes a lot of time & labor - particularly
> when 100 or more images are 
> involved!
> 
> Screensavers may involve over 50 images, easily. 
> Animation conversion can
> involve 300-400 individual images!
> 
> Borland adds these compressed images to a *.res as
> BITMAP, instead of as
> user-defined-resource.  Disappointment reigns & is
> rampant... particularly
> since I now have an image provider wanting these
> "products" from me as a
> single file.
> 
> The 2nd question involves pulling individual images
> out of *.rm & *.ram
> files....  I can't find a common denominator or
> delimiting char or seq
> so I can't convert these files to GFA-W(16)
> standalone animations.  For
> *these*, we can be talking numbers approaching
> 1000-1500!  Particularly
> when it involves tying a sequential group of *.rm or
> *.ram together as a 
> single long-play stand-alone animation.  Man oh man,
> do *these* ever make
> hellacious screensavers!  Reduced to individual
> images which are converted
> to *.jpg, they can be handled as metafiles & made
> much larger than original
> so the resulting screensaver can display'em full
> screen (or nearly so)!
> 
> TomR.
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
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Orbs of Ankhar, an ONLINE game I wrote years ago is
complete and ready to be played on the internet !
It does not require SysOp intervention so I do not
keep tabs on any player it is all automatic
on its own.  Discover over 400 rooms of adventure,
a nice break when you're not doing GFA.

Enjoy !

Sincerely,
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
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Subject: Re: [gfabasic] Codec-compression & RealPlay formats
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
David
I have the capability to make almost *any* animation or
flic.  I am trying to find out how to isolate & pull out
the images in *.rm & *.ram.  I've already converted a
bunch of *.mpg, *.avi & the various *.fl_ flix.  I can
do *these* easily... in fact, I can go from any one of
them to any other of them.

I stick w/ *.flc because it allows me to use 640x480
images & doesn't limit me to 256 colors.

I can start w/ one image & warp it into however many I
want, then make it (them) into a never ending *.flc or
GFA-W(16) animation.

My image capability is great... my knowledge of some new
formats is very meager.
TomR.


At 02:48 PM 24/04/00 -0700, you wrote:
>List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Greets Tom:
>
>RealAudio and RealVideo is probably pretty tricky
>stuff !  However the Display graphic tool I use can
>make .FLI files if that would help.  I made a few
>.FLIs from multiple .GIFs with it.
>
>Hope This Helps !
>
>Now mind you, if you have found a way to play a
>RealAudio/RealVideo file without going through their
>own player, that might be pretty interesting !
>
>I finally /\/ Zapped ! \/\  RealAudio/Video, got 
>ad-ed one too many times.  Seems like their ads popped
>up 6x a day !  Until they can stop drilling ads into
>people I'll stay with my .MIDs and .MODs
>
>Sincerely,
>David W.
>
>--- Tom Record
><tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> List Member Tom Record
>> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> Has anybody played w/ making this damned thing keep
>> the same Codec compressor 
>> & quality factor for a 2nd image?
>> 
>> Roland has never answered this question for me & I'm
>> just about to take 
>> GFA-W(16) off here because I've wasted WEEKS on
>> trying unsuccessfully to get 
>> it to NOT go to the SelectCompressor dialog when I
>> want to compress a series 
>> of same-size, same colordepth images using the same
>> compressor & quality factor.
>> 
>> I can go thru the whole damned procedure on a
>> multiple image run, but I can't 
>> retain & reuse the chosen compressor or quality
>> factor for subsequent images.  
>> This wastes a lot of time & labor - particularly
>> when 100 or more images are 
>> involved!
>> 
>> Screensavers may involve over 50 images, easily. 
>> Animation conversion can
>> involve 300-400 individual images!
>> 
>> Borland adds these compressed images to a *.res as
>> BITMAP, instead of as
>> user-defined-resource.  Disappointment reigns & is
>> rampant... particularly
>> since I now have an image provider wanting these
>> "products" from me as a
>> single file.
>> 
>> The 2nd question involves pulling individual images
>> out of *.rm & *.ram
>> files....  I can't find a common denominator or
>> delimiting char or seq
>> so I can't convert these files to GFA-W(16)
>> standalone animations.  For
>> *these*, we can be talking numbers approaching
>> 1000-1500!  Particularly
>> when it involves tying a sequential group of *.rm or
>> *.ram together as a 
>> single long-play stand-alone animation.  Man oh man,
>> do *these* ever make
>> hellacious screensavers!  Reduced to individual
>> images which are converted
>> to *.jpg, they can be handled as metafiles & made
>> much larger than original
>> so the resulting screensaver can display'em full
>> screen (or nearly so)!
>> 
>> TomR.
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Huuum !  You can already convert *.MPG & *.AVI as
well ?  I'm impressed !  :)

No you might have a real tussle on your hands trying
to break apart RealAudio movies & stuff..

Please let me know when you are successful.  I've got
some Anime .RMs I'd like to convert to *.MPGs cause
I don't like RealAudio's style aaaand it's too slow
on my computer anyways !  *.MPGs come out quite
nicely tho !

Good Luck !

Sincerely,
David W.

--- Tom Record
<tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> David
> I have the capability to make almost *any* animation
> or
> flic.  I am trying to find out how to isolate & pull
> out
> the images in *.rm & *.ram.  I've already converted
> a
> bunch of *.mpg, *.avi & the various *.fl_ flix.  I
> can
> do *these* easily... in fact, I can go from any one
> of
> them to any other of them.
> 
> I stick w/ *.flc because it allows me to use 640x480
> images & doesn't limit me to 256 colors.
> 
> I can start w/ one image & warp it into however many
> I
> want, then make it (them) into a never ending *.flc
> or
> GFA-W(16) animation.
> 
> My image capability is great... my knowledge of some
> new
> formats is very meager.
> TomR.
> 
> 
> At 02:48 PM 24/04/00 -0700, you wrote:
> >List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >Greets Tom:
> >
> >RealAudio and RealVideo is probably pretty tricky
> >stuff !  However the Display graphic tool I use can
> >make .FLI files if that would help.  I made a few
> >.FLIs from multiple .GIFs with it.
> >
> >Hope This Helps !
> >
> >Now mind you, if you have found a way to play a
> >RealAudio/RealVideo file without going through
> their
> >own player, that might be pretty interesting !
> >
> >I finally /\/ Zapped ! \/\  RealAudio/Video, got 
> >ad-ed one too many times.  Seems like their ads
> popped
> >up 6x a day !  Until they can stop drilling ads
> into
> >people I'll stay with my .MIDs and .MODs
> >
> >Sincerely,
> >David W.
> >
> >--- Tom Record
> ><tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> >> List Member Tom Record
> >> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net>
> wrote:
> >> Has anybody played w/ making this damned thing
> keep
> >> the same Codec compressor 
> >> & quality factor for a 2nd image?
> >> 
> >> Roland has never answered this question for me &
> I'm
> >> just about to take 
> >> GFA-W(16) off here because I've wasted WEEKS on
> >> trying unsuccessfully to get 
> >> it to NOT go to the SelectCompressor dialog when
> I
> >> want to compress a series 
> >> of same-size, same colordepth images using the
> same
> >> compressor & quality factor.
> >> 
> >> I can go thru the whole damned procedure on a
> >> multiple image run, but I can't 
> >> retain & reuse the chosen compressor or quality
> >> factor for subsequent images.  
> >> This wastes a lot of time & labor - particularly
> >> when 100 or more images are 
> >> involved!
> >> 
> >> Screensavers may involve over 50 images, easily. 
> >> Animation conversion can
> >> involve 300-400 individual images!
> >> 
> >> Borland adds these compressed images to a *.res
> as
> >> BITMAP, instead of as
> >> user-defined-resource.  Disappointment reigns &
> is
> >> rampant... particularly
> >> since I now have an image provider wanting these
> >> "products" from me as a
> >> single file.
> >> 
> >> The 2nd question involves pulling individual
> images
> >> out of *.rm & *.ram
> >> files....  I can't find a common denominator or
> >> delimiting char or seq
> >> so I can't convert these files to GFA-W(16)
> >> standalone animations.  For
> >> *these*, we can be talking numbers approaching
> >> 1000-1500!  Particularly
> >> when it involves tying a sequential group of *.rm
> or
> >> *.ram together as a 
> >> single long-play stand-alone animation.  Man oh
> man,
> >> do *these* ever make
> >> hellacious screensavers!  Reduced to individual
> >> images which are converted
> >> to *.jpg, they can be handled as metafiles & made
> >> much larger than original
> >> so the resulting screensaver can display'em full
> >> screen (or nearly so)!
> >> 
> >> TomR.
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Well, I've gotta new question and some sourcecode
I've written that just might help some people
who are having their own difficulty accessing
TrueType fonts.

By hacking away for a few hours I found that this
[code below] will select a FONT and display it on the
screen for use in any program.

OPENW #1                ' <-- OpenWindow
DLG FONT 1,0,1,0,0,0,"" ' <-- Ask for a Font
FONT TO FntPtr          ' <-- FntPtr has selection now
RFONT NAME NamePtr      ' <-- Retrieve Name of Font
FONT HEIGHT 50 TO FntPtr' <-- set HEIGHT to 50
SETFONT FntPtr          ' <-- Change font NOW
PRINT "Name = " + CHAR{NamePtr}
FREEFONT FntPtr         ' <-- Free up memory for it
KEYGET Z                ' <-- Wait for that keypress
CLOSEW #1               ' <-- Keep Life Tidy

Okay, my question is, how do I SETFONT if I know ONLY
know the filename of the TrueType font I want, such
as "Monkey Chunks" which looks like a typeface for
Gilligan's Island.  I can access it directly by typing
out letter for letter "monkey chunks"   but how do I
set a font automatically with just its filename as
reference material ?
"mnkchunk.ttf"

I would REALLY like to know !
Thanks !

If the text above spills to the next line, you could
select [V]iew, Te[x]t Size, [S]maller to make it
view okay it is on screen right okay !

Hope This Helps !

Sincerely,
David W.
http://www.geocities.com/dw817

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:


--- Dale Bryant <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com>
> wrote:
> Well, thetas the way it goes. Sorry for the 
> misinformation.
> My apologies!
> 
> Dale Bryant

No problem there Dale.  The thing is that you were
just trying to protect us and I thanking you for that.
:)

Okay, and the next question is.  Has anyone heard of
a Library for Turbo Pascal or C++ called RTKernal.
Dad says he found one at On-Time.COM but they want
$2000 for it.  All it does is multi-task stuff in
Windows which I guess is really important to him,
and he wanting to see if there are any knock-offs
FREEWARE or other kinds of stuff that does the
multi-tasking he is wanting.

He's asking cause On-Time's home address is
Hamburg, Germany, and didn't know if someone had
connections or knew anything about it.

That's all from here !  GameDev making good progress !
Fabian, my understudy is learning how to plot pixels
and read them back in GFA now.  Yah he's liking GFA
better then QBasic too.  :)

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
We don't need the rest of this mess <G>.

It appears to me that so far, all that claim "it'll wipe out your whole=20
hard drive" are good pointers to bogusville.  "It will delete your=20
Netscape &/or MSIE" are very limited... there must be at least 150=20
*OTHER* browsers... are *they* safe?

NOT if left up to *me* & I got on a hellish rage to damage others!  I=20
can find & identify _ANY_ browser, modify it w/ a patch or even delete=20
it!  I DON'T even have to know it's name to wreck havoc on it!

Originally, perhaps, those were target inflictions but today, the game
is to make money off the victim.  I suspect that, even as unskilled as I
am I could find any info I wanted to search a computer for if it was there
& get past McAfee & everybody else - at least for a little while.  A lot
of money can change hands in a couple of weeks!  Such animals as passwords,
bank account numbers, credit card numbers, can be obtained quickly & passed
on.

The latest HOT scam I've run across is to get the unsuspecting user to call
some European phone number & have it billed to his/her telephone.  While I
DON'T know the exact steps needed, I have a good idea how it is done.  The
average user evidently runs the modem SILENTLY... *ANY* attempt to perform
in this method on a computer that has AUDIO OUTPUT ENABLED from the modem=20
during connection would immediately alert the user!

OK, where I've seen this happening is on girlie pages.  "Free software" to
download an entire archive from "anywhere in the world".  "Free browser
inhancements" to speed up your internet connection - as if even a jackass
wouldn't KNOW that a 14.4 modem is NOT going to download at 92K/sec, having
watched hours of downloads at an optimum 1.2K/sec!  Oh, I understand that
you actually get the archives, but via a direct long distance call to some
European telephone that is bill to your home phone.

Another clue to "bogusville" is the wild claim that AOL &/or MS have=
 verified
the activity & that there is NO cure.

So far, the only thing that has ever bit me was B.O., & that was before I
finally paid to upgrade McAfee.  I'm now watched over pretty strictly, even
e-mail & downloads.  McAfee refuses to allow me to open an infected file.

If I want to play w/ something of this nature, I have to turn McAfee OFF!

Wir brauchen den Rest dieses Durcheinanders nicht <G>. =20
 =20
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List Member gunnar.boenicke@t-online.de (Gunnar Boenicke) wrote:
> Okay, and the next question is.  Has anyone heard of
> a Library for Turbo Pascal or C++ called RTKernal.
> Dad says he found one at On-Time.COM but they want
> $2000 for it.  All it does is multi-task stuff in
> Windows which I guess is really important to him,
> and he wanting to see if there are any knock-offs
> FREEWARE or other kinds of stuff that does the
> multi-tasking he is wanting.

Hi David,

"All it does is multi-task stuff in Windows" !?!?

I thought windows is multi-tasking. For what do you need this "cheep"
software? It is maybe a silly question, but I don't understand this.

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:


--- Gunnar Boenicke <gunnar.boenicke@t-online.de>
wrote:
> List Member gunnar.boenicke@t-online.de (Gunnar
> Boenicke) wrote:
> > Okay, and the next question is.  Has anyone heard
> of
> > a Library for Turbo Pascal or C++ called RTKernal.
> > Dad says he found one at On-Time.COM but they want
> > $2000 for it.  All it does is multi-task stuff in
> > Windows which I guess is really important to him,
> > and he wanting to see if there are any knock-offs
> > FREEWARE or other kinds of stuff that does the
> > multi-tasking he is wanting.
> 
> Hi David,
> 
> "All it does is multi-task stuff in Windows" !?!?
> 
> I thought windows is multi-tasking. For what do you
> need this "cheep"
> software? It is maybe a silly question, but I don't
> understand this.
> 
> Bye
> 
> Gunnar

Gunnar, what you are saying makes perfect sense to
me !  :)  Dad won't leave Pascal unless GFA can multi-
task, which I know it can, I just don't know how.

Okay, let me word it this way, knowing well
the background everyone has in GFA, how would you
run multiple processes in GFA ?

Something like:

DEFINT "A-Z"

BGPROC 1,GoUp,1000
BGPROC 2,GoDown,1000

DO
  PEEKEVENT
  PRINT Up,Down
UNTIL INKEY$ > ""

PROCEDURE GoUp
  Up ++
RETURN

PROCEDURE GoDown
  Down --
RETURN

Running this program you will see
Up increase and Down decrease without even
needing to call them !

The 1 & 2 are for pointers and the 1000
means 1000 cycles will elapse before either is
called, so they are called one right after another
and then wait another 1000 cycles.

I know BGPROC isn't a command or word in GFA
but how would this be done ?
I suppose I could use and maybe some others in
GFA can making use of this information as well.

I've got a full featured Jukebox I'm working on
which works pretty well, but if I call SLEEP it
won't wake up until I'm back in that window.
Using SETTIMER or SLEEP in GFABasic Compiler
apparently is a REM statement because I
can't get GFA to SLEEP at all in a compiled
.EXE from the true compiler.

DELAY and PAUSE just tie up the computer
completely for that time period.

Please let me know regarding this.
Thanks !

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member gunnar.boenicke@t-online.de (Gunnar Boenicke) wrote:
> Gunnar, what you are saying makes perfect sense to
> me !  :)  Dad won't leave Pascal unless GFA can multi-
> task, which I know it can, I just don't know how.
>
> Okay, let me word it this way, knowing well
> the background everyone has in GFA, how would you
> run multiple processes in GFA ?
>
> Something like:
>
> DEFINT "A-Z"
>
> BGPROC 1,GoUp,1000
> BGPROC 2,GoDown,1000
>
> DO
>   PEEKEVENT
>   PRINT Up,Down
> UNTIL INKEY$ > ""
>
> PROCEDURE GoUp
>   Up ++
> RETURN
>
> PROCEDURE GoDown
>   Down --
> RETURN
>
> Running this program you will see
> Up increase and Down decrease without even
> needing to call them !
>
> The 1 & 2 are for pointers and the 1000
> means 1000 cycles will elapse before either is
> called, so they are called one right after another
> and then wait another 1000 cycles.
>
> I know BGPROC isn't a command or word in GFA
> but how would this be done ?
> I suppose I could use and maybe some others in
> GFA can making use of this information as well.
>
> I've got a full featured Jukebox I'm working on
> which works pretty well, but if I call SLEEP it
> won't wake up until I'm back in that window.
> Using SETTIMER or SLEEP in GFABasic Compiler
> apparently is a REM statement because I
> can't get GFA to SLEEP at all in a compiled
> .EXE from the true compiler.
>
> DELAY and PAUSE just tie up the computer
> completely for that time period.
>
> Please let me know regarding this.
> Thanks !
>
> Sincerely,
> David W.
>
Hi David,

for your example you don't need multi-task. I tried the timer years ago and
in the end I did the following way:

t_goup% = TIMER
t_godown% = TIMER

DO
  @wait_for_key
  PRINT Up,Down
UNTIL INKEY$ > ""

PROCEDURE wait_for_key
  PEEKEVENT
  IF TIMER - t_goup% >= 1000 THEN GOSUB GoUp
  IF TIMER - t_godown% >= 1000 THEN GOSUB GoDown
RETURN

PROCEDURE GoUp
  Up ++
  t_goup% = TIMER
RETURN

PROCEDURE GoDown
  Down --
  t_godown% = TIMER
RETURN

---------------------
It works!

Because windows is multi-task, you can run more programms the same time. But
very important:

Don't use pause!

a%=TIMER
REPEAT
  PEEKEVENT
UNTIL TIMER-a%>=1000

You can make a complete background-programm. I did this for the
automatik-barrier on my camping-site without any screen, so you will never
see this programm on the screen. Important: In all big "LOOPS" take a
peekevent, if not, all other programms will stop or slow down. If programm 1
will give a message to programm 2 it simply write to a file while programm 2
permanently read this file. Not very good, but it works since 1992.

BTW: The timer works in GB32 very simple!!!

Ocx Timer Timer1 = "" , 0, 0, 0, 0
.Interval = 500
.Enabled = True

DO
  SLEEP
LOOP

Sub Timer1_Timer()
// All halve second
End Sub

Hop this will help a little bit.

Bye

Gunnar



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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hi David,
> 
> for your example you don't need multi-task. I tried
> the timer years ago and
> in the end I did the following way:
> 
> t_goup% = TIMER
> t_godown% = TIMER
> 
> DO
>   @wait_for_key
>   PRINT Up,Down
> UNTIL INKEY$ > ""
> 
> PROCEDURE wait_for_key
>   PEEKEVENT
>   IF TIMER - t_goup% >= 1000 THEN GOSUB GoUp
>   IF TIMER - t_godown% >= 1000 THEN GOSUB GoDown
> RETURN
> 
> PROCEDURE GoUp
>   Up ++
>   t_goup% = TIMER
> RETURN
> 
> PROCEDURE GoDown
>   Down --
>   t_godown% = TIMER
> RETURN

* No..  This isn't good enough.  It's fine for me,
  but he won't like that.  He's doing what's called
  Object Oriented Programming what ever that is..
  Hey saying all programs talk to each other send
  signals and all running at once.

> 
> ---------------------
> It works!
> 
> Because windows is multi-task, you can run more
> programms the same time. But
> very important:
> 
> Don't use pause!

* Yah !  Whoever thought of DELAY and PAUSE should
  get their tongue painted GREEN !  :)

> 
> a%=TIMER
> REPEAT
>   PEEKEVENT
> UNTIL TIMER-a%>=1000

* I've used this technique before.  Let me update it.
  This should help some people out there.

TT=TIMER
WHILE TIMER-TT<500 AND TIMER>=TT
  PEEKEVENT
WEND

* This also checks for Midnight rollover.  Most every
  one's timer doesn't check for this.  It's important
  cause the one up above will HANG for good if you
  enter it just prior to midnight.

> 
> You can make a complete background-programm. I did
> this for the
> automatik-barrier on my camping-site without any
> screen, so you will never
> see this programm on the screen. Important: In all
> big "LOOPS" take a
> peekevent, if not, all other programms will stop or
> slow down. If programm 1
> will give a message to programm 2 it simply write to
> a file while programm 2
> permanently read this file. Not very good, but it
> works since 1992.
> 
> BTW: The timer works in GB32 very simple!!!
> 
> Ocx Timer Timer1 = "" , 0, 0, 0, 0
> ..Interval = 500
> ..Enabled = True
> 
> DO
>   SLEEP
> LOOP
> 
> Sub Timer1_Timer()
> // All halve second
> End Sub
> 
> Hop this will help a little bit.
> 
> Bye
> 
> Gunnar

* This is good !  Can this be done somehow in GFA16 ?
  It looks to me like this is a true interrupt.
  QBasic 4.5 can interrupt once every second which is
  better then naught.

ON TIMER(1) GOSUB Tick
TIMER ON

Tick:
  LOCATE 1,1
  PRINT TIME$
RETURN

Can something like this be done in GFA16 ?

Thanks for the prior info !  This help me solve
a bit of the puzzle anyways.  :)

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member gunnar.boenicke@t-online.de (Gunnar Boenicke) wrote:
> * No..  This isn't good enough.  It's fine for me,
>   but he won't like that.  

Maybe this is better. 

FULLW #4
SETTIMER 4,1,5000
DO
  SLEEP
  IF _Mess = WM_TIMER
    ? TIME$  // All 5 Seconds
  ENDIF
LOOP

>   He's doing what's called
>   Object Oriented Programming what ever that is..

This is what GB32 is doing now!! 
My example from the timer in GB32 is the Timer-Object! 

>   Hey saying all programs talk to each other send
>   signals and all running at once.

Sorry, can't understand that. My english is not good enough.

This is the timer Object, if you want use objects, buy GB32. 
> > Ocx Timer Timer1 = "" , 0, 0, 0, 0
> > ..Interval = 500
> > ..Enabled = True
> > 
> > DO
> >   SLEEP
> > LOOP
> > 
> > Sub Timer1_Timer()
> > // All halve second
> > End Sub

Bye, Gunnar

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List Member gunnar.boenicke@t-online.de (Gunnar Boenicke) wrote:
List Member gunnar.boenicke@t-online.de (Gunnar Boenicke) wrote:
> * No..  This isn't good enough.  It's fine for me,
>   but he won't like that.  

Maybe this is better. 

FULLW #4
SETTIMER 4,1,5000
DO
  SLEEP
  IF _Mess = WM_TIMER
    ? TIME$  // All 5 Seconds
  ENDIF
LOOP

>   He's doing what's called
>   Object Oriented Programming what ever that is..

This is what GB32 is doing now!! 
My example from the timer in GB32 is the Timer-Object! 

>   Hey saying all programs talk to each other send
>   signals and all running at once.

Sorry, can't understand that. My english is not good enough.

This is the timer Object, if you want use objects, buy GB32. 
> > Ocx Timer Timer1 = "" , 0, 0, 0, 0
> > ..Interval = 500
> > ..Enabled = True
> > 
> > DO
> >   SLEEP
> > LOOP
> > 
> > Sub Timer1_Timer()
> > // All halve second
> > End Sub

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:


--- Gunnar Boenicke <gunnar.boenicke@t-online.de>
wrote:
> List Member gunnar.boenicke@t-online.de (Gunnar
> Boenicke) wrote:
> > * No..  This isn't good enough.  It's fine for me,
> >   but he won't like that.  
> 
> Maybe this is better. 
> 
> FULLW #4
> SETTIMER 4,1,5000
> DO
>   SLEEP
>   IF _Mess = WM_TIMER
>     ? TIME$  // All 5 Seconds
>   ENDIF
> LOOP

Okay, sorta..  Is there a way to do

ON _MESS=WM_TIMER GOSUB Tick

Where it is running in the background all the times ?

> 
> >   He's doing what's called
> >   Object Oriented Programming what ever that is..
> 
> This is what GB32 is doing now!! 
> My example from the timer in GB32 is the
> Timer-Object! 

Hummm..  So GB16 can't do it then ?

> 
> >   Hey saying all programs talk to each other send
> >   signals and all running at once.
> 
> Sorry, can't understand that. My english is not good
> enough.

Sorry I get a little excited and I've got a bit of
dyslexia sometime okay, He is saying that all the
programs they are talking to each other sending each
other signals and all running together all at once.

> 
> This is the timer Object, if you want use objects,
> buy GB32. 
> > > Ocx Timer Timer1 = "" , 0, 0, 0, 0
> > > ..Interval = 500
> > > ..Enabled = True
> > > 
> > > DO
> > >   SLEEP
> > > LOOP
> > > 
> > > Sub Timer1_Timer()
> > > // All halve second
> > > End Sub
> 
> Bye, Gunnar

Is there a way to do something like this in GFA16 ?

Sincerely,
David W.


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List Member "W.Schindler" <w.schindler@josefstal.de> wrote:
Hi Dale!

> To all listers.
> You are invited to send comments, opinions and many, many pieces of cod=
e to:
> Don't be shy!!

I hope I'll be allowed to keep on participating in this list, although I =
hardly
ever wrote comments.
Pieces of code? Well, writing code is just a leisuretime-occupation for m=
e and
-for the time beeing-
I hardly have any.
But I enjoy reading this list, reading how things I'd like to do, can be =
done,
without the chance to do it myself right now :-(
So regretfully, there's hardly something NEW to contribute from my side -=
 my
PC-Clock_Window works fine and keeps penetrating our CI.
(if you want to take a glance at it:
http://www.josefstal.de/mac/software/timer.htm)
Since its code doesn't contain NEW techniques, I think its not usefull to=
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in the list - no question, I'd publish the code, if you think I should.

mit freundlichen / herzlichen Gr=FC=DFen

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
The following runs 2 images (one change), then GPFs when going for #3.
If I move "mec:" before GETEVENT, it takes Windows w/ it!  I'm loading
*.jpg images from a $LNKed *.res.  Getting two images now indicates to 
me that it's finally reading the flippin *.res.  I can't, however, get
past the GPF.  IF I use a TIMER to handle anything, GPF BIG time!  Oh!
Am using Roland's minijpeg.lib $LNKed into it, too.  Pretty fast this
way!

In this, the first image crosses at center Y, the next just crosses at
x=0.  I'll make the rest drop down their respective heights when I can
get the !@#$#@! GPF cleared.  It'll be a screenfull left to right, top
to bottom starting at the right, right to left starting at the bottom,
bottom to top starting on the left.  I have this working in one that
reads external files.  NOW I'm working toward a single file for the 
whole thing.  *This* one is 138K & contains 12 108x81 (give or take)
images & one that is more than 1/4 screen.  *That* is the client's
logo image.  *My* small logo image will go in after it all works.

Roland isn't responding... can ANYbody else see my problem's cure?
Please! Please! Please! Please! Please! Please! Please! Please! Please! 

By the way... I can, using my *.rc generator, prep an *.rc containing 
the images & a versinfo that compiles in Borland to a useable *.res.
<C>
TomR.
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@LoadJpegRes(Picture&)

DO
  GETEVENT
  mec:
  IF _Mess = WM_PAINT
    FOR mac% = -widthDib% TO _X + 1 /* Horz position, have to clear the screen
      EXIT IF MOUSEK & 2 /* piddlin "get me out" for now.
      IF Picture& = 1 THEN
        mic% = (_Y - heightDib%) / 2 /* Vert position
      ELSE
        mic% = 0
      ENDIF
/* This next line is wrapped!  This is Eudora!
~StretchDIBits(_DC(1),mac%,mic%,widthDib%,heightDib%,0,0,widthDib%,heightDib%,_
ptrDib%+sizeBmiHdr%,ptrDib%,DIB_RGB_COLORS,SRCCOPY)
      IF mac% > _X THEN
        @Chg_Pix
        mac% = 0
        GOTO mec /* the ONLY way I can do this for the moment!
        /*  @LoadJpegRes(Picture&) - happens in @Chg_Pix after the first image.
     ENDIF
    NEXT mac%
UNTIL LaDiDa...
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Wolfgang
Post, post, post! <G>
There are those of us that look at *everything*!  There is nearly always
something done in a better way than we know how to.  That is why I would
break Dale's neck if he quit writing his gfanl - I may *never* use most
of what he collects, but there has certainly been a lot of good for me to
try out.  I keep nearly everything handy on ZIP100 disks.

This goes for those too timid or shy... if you figure how to do something
new or difficult, please post it.  Half of my pleasure is in the idea that
somebody else might learn something new from *my* posts.  The *other* half
comes from getting the darned thing to work in the first place.  My latest
"eater of lunch" was just posted a few minutes ago.  If someone would like
to see the rest of the program, I'll post it all if asked.  I'm building
a self-contained *.exe, but it will become a *.scr when working correctly.
*THIS* sucker is destined for commercial sale by an image provider.
<G>
TomR.


At 11:45 AM 28/04/00 +0200, you wrote:
>List Member "W.Schindler" <w.schindler@josefstal.de> wrote:
>Hi Dale!
>
>> To all listers.
>> You are invited to send comments, opinions and many, many pieces of code=
 to:
>> Don't be shy!!
>
>I hope I'll be allowed to keep on participating in this list, although I=
 hardly
>ever wrote comments.
>Pieces of code? Well, writing code is just a leisuretime-occupation for me=
 and
>-for the time beeing-
>I hardly have any.
>But I enjoy reading this list, reading how things I'd like to do, can be=
 done,
>without the chance to do it myself right now :-(
>So regretfully, there's hardly something NEW to contribute from my side -=
 my
>PC-Clock_Window works fine and keeps penetrating our CI.
>(if you want to take a glance at it:
>http://www.josefstal.de/mac/software/timer.htm)
>Since its code doesn't contain NEW techniques, I think its not usefull to
put it
>in the list - no question, I'd publish the code, if you think I should.
>
>mit freundlichen / herzlichen Gr=FC=DFen
>
>Wolfgang Schindler
>
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Send it to me at:
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and let me take a look at it.  You might be surprised.
Dale

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> List Member "W.Schindler" <w.schindler@josefstal.de> wrote:
> Hi Dale!
>
> > To all listers.
> > You are invited to send comments, opinions and many, many pieces of code
to:
> > Don't be shy!!
>
> I hope I'll be allowed to keep on participating in this list, although I
hardly
> ever wrote comments.
> Pieces of code? Well, writing code is just a leisuretime-occupation for me
and
> -for the time beeing-
> I hardly have any.
> But I enjoy reading this list, reading how things I'd like to do, can be
done,
> without the chance to do it myself right now :-(
> So regretfully, there's hardly something NEW to contribute from my side -
my
> PC-Clock_Window works fine and keeps penetrating our CI.
> (if you want to take a glance at it:
> http://www.josefstal.de/mac/software/timer.htm)
> Since its code doesn't contain NEW techniques, I think its not usefull to
put it
> in the list - no question, I'd publish the code, if you think I should.
>
> mit freundlichen / herzlichen Gren
>
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List Member gunnar.boenicke@t-online.de (Gunnar Boenicke) wrote:
> > Maybe this is better.
> >
> > FULLW #4
> > SETTIMER 4,1,5000
> > DO
> >   SLEEP
> >   IF _Mess = WM_TIMER
> >     ? TIME$  // All 5 Seconds
> >   ENDIF
> > LOOP
>
> Okay, sorta..  Is there a way to do
>
> ON _MESS=WM_TIMER GOSUB Tick
>
> Where it is running in the background all the times ?
>
> >
> > >   He's doing what's called
> > >   Object Oriented Programming what ever that is..
> >
> > This is what GB32 is doing now!!
> > My example from the timer in GB32 is the
> > Timer-Object!
>
> Hummm..  So GB16 can't do it then ?
>
> >
> > >   Hey saying all programs talk to each other send
> > >   signals and all running at once.
> >
> > Sorry, can't understand that. My english is not good
> > enough.
>
> Sorry I get a little excited and I've got a bit of
> dyslexia sometime okay, He is saying that all the
> programs they are talking to each other sending each
> other signals and all running together all at once.
>
> >
> > This is the timer Object, if you want use objects,
> > buy GB32.
> > > > Ocx Timer Timer1 = "" , 0, 0, 0, 0
> > > > ..Interval = 500
> > > > ..Enabled = True
> > > >
> > > > DO
> > > >   SLEEP
> > > > LOOP
> > > >
> > > > Sub Timer1_Timer()
> > > > // All halve second
> > > > End Sub
> >
> > Bye, Gunnar
>
> Is there a way to do something like this in GFA16 ?
>
> Sincerely,
> David W.
>
Hi David,

maybe I can't explain it in english, hop you will understand me:

Make 2 programms like the following:

Programm 1:

OPENW #4,-1,-1,0,0,0  // You will not see the window, it is hidden
SETTIMER 4,1,1000
DO
  PEEKEVENT              // Will give the most time to other programms
  IF _Mess = WM_TIMER
    BEEP   // All 1 Seconds
    // Here you can send a message to your other programm or go to a
procedure
  ENDIF
LOOP

Programm 2:

OPENW #4
DO
  ? TIME$
  PEEKEVENT
LOOP

If you start programm 1 it will BEEP every second. You can start every other
programm and it will still BEEP in the background, but if you start Programm
3 all other programms will not work anymore, because programm 3 will not
give any time to other programms.

Programm 3:

OPENW #4
DO
  ? TIME$
////  PEEKEVENT
LOOP

So, there is really no difference between ON _MESS=WM_TIMER GOSUB Tick
and my example. You always need a PEEKEVENT, SLEEP or ... in your programm
to let other programms work (is the same as the bluddy PAUSE). So you can
write a programm what will run in the background and send you a message or
you can take it in your own programm with SETTIMER.
I tried the same with GB32 and the object, but that is exactly the same
result. In that moment, you have no SLEEP in your programm windows will have
no multi-task anymore.
I am sure, if your dad buy the $2000-programm he will have the same result.

I like to here something about this from somebody else, I am right or
not????????

Bye, Gunnar

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List Member HSJWS@t-online.de (Schmidt) wrote:
I am new.I do not know how to handle this here. Try to contact anybody.
I have the following problem. I want to print in Gfa basic windows 32. Who can 
send me a little listing to do that, especially to select various printers, too 
Gunnar Boenicke schrieb:
> List Member gunnar.boenicke@t-online.de (Gunnar Boenicke) wrote:
> > > Maybe this is better.
> > >
> > > FULLW #4
> > > SETTIMER 4,1,5000
> > > DO
> > >   SLEEP
> > >   IF _Mess = WM_TIMER
> > >     ? TIME$  // All 5 Seconds
> > >   ENDIF
> > > LOOP
> >
> > Okay, sorta..  Is there a way to do
> >
> > ON _MESS=WM_TIMER GOSUB Tick
> >
> > Where it is running in the background all the times ?
> >
> > >
> > > >   He's doing what's called
> > > >   Object Oriented Programming what ever that is..
> > >
> > > This is what GB32 is doing now!!
> > > My example from the timer in GB32 is the
> > > Timer-Object!
> >
> > Hummm..  So GB16 can't do it then ?
> >
> > >
> > > >   Hey saying all programs talk to each other send
> > > >   signals and all running at once.
> > >
> > > Sorry, can't understand that. My english is not good
> > > enough.
> >
> > Sorry I get a little excited and I've got a bit of
> > dyslexia sometime okay, He is saying that all the
> > programs they are talking to each other sending each
> > other signals and all running together all at once.
> >
> > >
> > > This is the timer Object, if you want use objects,
> > > buy GB32.
> > > > > Ocx Timer Timer1 = "" , 0, 0, 0, 0
> > > > > ..Interval = 500
> > > > > ..Enabled = True
> > > > >
> > > > > DO
> > > > >   SLEEP
> > > > > LOOP
> > > > >
> > > > > Sub Timer1_Timer()
> > > > > // All halve second
> > > > > End Sub
> > >
> > > Bye, Gunnar
> >
> > Is there a way to do something like this in GFA16 ?
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > David W.
> >
> Hi David,
>
> maybe I can't explain it in english, hop you will understand me:
>
> Make 2 programms like the following:
>
> Programm 1:
>
> OPENW #4,-1,-1,0,0,0  // You will not see the window, it is hidden
> SETTIMER 4,1,1000
> DO
>   PEEKEVENT              // Will give the most time to other programms
>   IF _Mess = WM_TIMER
>     BEEP   // All 1 Seconds
>     // Here you can send a message to your other programm or go to a
> procedure
>   ENDIF
> LOOP
>
> Programm 2:
>
> OPENW #4
> DO
>   ? TIME$
>   PEEKEVENT
> LOOP
>
> If you start programm 1 it will BEEP every second. You can start every other
> programm and it will still BEEP in the background, but if you start Programm
> 3 all other programms will not work anymore, because programm 3 will not
> give any time to other programms.
>
> Programm 3:
>
> OPENW #4
> DO
>   ? TIME$
> ////  PEEKEVENT
> LOOP
>
> So, there is really no difference between ON _MESS=WM_TIMER GOSUB Tick
> and my example. You always need a PEEKEVENT, SLEEP or ... in your programm
> to let other programms work (is the same as the bluddy PAUSE). So you can
> write a programm what will run in the background and send you a message or
> you can take it in your own programm with SETTIMER.
> I tried the same with GB32 and the object, but that is exactly the same
> result. In that moment, you have no SLEEP in your programm windows will have
> no multi-task anymore.
> I am sure, if your dad buy the $2000-programm he will have the same result.
>
> I like to here something about this from somebody else, I am right or
> not????????
>
> Bye, Gunnar
>
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List Member HSJWS@t-online.de (Schmidt) wrote:
I am new here and i do not know, how to write to anybody in this list. I 
have the following problem. I want to print in gfa basic for windows 32. How can 
I do that and how can I use various printers, not only my laser jet.??? David 
Wicker schrieb:
> List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Hi David,
> > 
> > for your example you don't need multi-task. I tried
> > the timer years ago and
> > in the end I did the following way:
> > 
> > t_goup% = TIMER
> > t_godown% = TIMER
> > 
> > DO
> >   @wait_for_key
> >   PRINT Up,Down
> > UNTIL INKEY$ > ""
> > 
> > PROCEDURE wait_for_key
> >   PEEKEVENT
> >   IF TIMER - t_goup% >= 1000 THEN GOSUB GoUp
> >   IF TIMER - t_godown% >= 1000 THEN GOSUB GoDown
> > RETURN
> > 
> > PROCEDURE GoUp
> >   Up ++
> >   t_goup% = TIMER
> > RETURN
> > 
> > PROCEDURE GoDown
> >   Down --
> >   t_godown% = TIMER
> > RETURN
>
> * No..  This isn't good enough.  It's fine for me,
>   but he won't like that.  He's doing what's called
>   Object Oriented Programming what ever that is..
>   Hey saying all programs talk to each other send
>   signals and all running at once.
>
> > 
> > ---------------------
> > It works!
> > 
> > Because windows is multi-task, you can run more
> > programms the same time. But
> > very important:
> > 
> > Don't use pause!
>
> * Yah !  Whoever thought of DELAY and PAUSE should
>   get their tongue painted GREEN !  :)
>
> > 
> > a%=TIMER
> > REPEAT
> >   PEEKEVENT
> > UNTIL TIMER-a%>=1000
>
> * I've used this technique before.  Let me update it.
>   This should help some people out there.
>
> TT=TIMER
> WHILE TIMER-TT<500 AND TIMER>=TT
>   PEEKEVENT
> WEND
>
> * This also checks for Midnight rollover.  Most every
>   one's timer doesn't check for this.  It's important
>   cause the one up above will HANG for good if you
>   enter it just prior to midnight.
>
> > 
> > You can make a complete background-programm. I did
> > this for the
> > automatik-barrier on my camping-site without any
> > screen, so you will never
> > see this programm on the screen. Important: In all
> > big "LOOPS" take a
> > peekevent, if not, all other programms will stop or
> > slow down. If programm 1
> > will give a message to programm 2 it simply write to
> > a file while programm 2
> > permanently read this file. Not very good, but it
> > works since 1992.
> > 
> > BTW: The timer works in GB32 very simple!!!
> > 
> > Ocx Timer Timer1 = "" , 0, 0, 0, 0
> > ..Interval = 500
> > ..Enabled = True
> > 
> > DO
> >   SLEEP
> > LOOP
> > 
> > Sub Timer1_Timer()
> > // All halve second
> > End Sub
> > 
> > Hop this will help a little bit.
> > 
> > Bye
> > 
> > Gunnar
>
> * This is good !  Can this be done somehow in GFA16 ?
>   It looks to me like this is a true interrupt.
>   QBasic 4.5 can interrupt once every second which is
>   better then naught.
>
> ON TIMER(1) GOSUB Tick
> TIMER ON
>
> Tick:
>   LOCATE 1,1
>   PRINT TIME$
> RETURN
>
> Can something like this be done in GFA16 ?
>
> Thanks for the prior info !  This help me solve
> a bit of the puzzle anyways.  :)
>
> Sincerely,
> David W.
>
> > 
> > 
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Hi to All
Here Peter.

I need source Gfabasic listing which load and show some pictures format =
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Peter
On Dale's site, pick up Roland's JPEG package.  It contains a
*.lib that reads & loads *.jpg when $LNKed in during compile.

You can't do anything with it EXCEPT after compiling the appl.

You might write your appl to use the companion *.dll while in
the interpretor, then switch to the *.lib after compiling.  The
interpretor will ignore the $LNK compiler directive.  The *.lib
is considerably faster than the *.dll, BUT... you MUST compile
using wgen.exe!  I don't think the interpretor's "Make .exe"
will recognize the compiler directives.

With John's *.gif, you now have 2 formats you can read other than
just *.bmp.

Using the savebmp.lst/gfw, you can also add saving a *.bmp.  You
will NOT be able to save 8-bit properly unless you set your monitor
to 8-bit, however!  It will save 16-bit OK if set to 16-bit & will
save 24-bit quite nicely despite the setting as long as it's 8-bit 
or greater.  1-bit save is OK, but I *think* to get a good 4-bit
requires your graphics setting to be 4-bit.  This *may* work at 8-bit
but I havion't tried it.  I work only at 8-bit & greater.

While on Dale's site, get Eberhard's image editor!  This gives you
GFA-W(16) source for converting (& saving) between 8, 16, 24 & 32-bit.
He also has a loadbmp routine, or you can go for Hamstra's loadbmp.gfw.

*This* gives you 3 formats to read & one to save (with 4 or 6 subformats
in *.bmp).

NOBODY has yet come out w/ a GFA *.jpg write routine, but it is being
looked at.

Using nviewl16.dll, you have 5 or 6 load formats & *.jpg save.  Note of
caution, tho... it reads ONLY non-interlaced *.gif properly & may NOT
saveas properly.  Also... *SOME* *.pcx are screwy & won't saveas properly.
*IF* it reads an animated *.gif properly, it reads ONLY the first image.
Nviewl16.dll is FREE!  You can get many more formats & saves, but these
*.dlls range from $100US to $2000US!  Steve Thornton (I think) has been
sucessful in getting wecjlib.dll to work properly, but I have failed at
every attempt.  It's "free" - the owner has gone out of business.

Oh, yes... nviewl16.dll can NOT handle Progressive JPEGs, either.

Using Roland's Codec routines, you have an option of loading/writing
msvideo Codec-compressed *.bmp (or *.dib).  A Codec viewer will loaf
& display *ALMOST* any *.bmp (MUST be a standard color depth), but
ONLY the Codec routines will load & display Codec-compressed images.
Codec requires MS's VfW, v1.1a or later & a 32-bit environment.  
Win3.1 w/ W32s installed is the minimum requirement!

Some useful URLs:
http://gfa.net/adbryant/files.htm   Dale Bryant  GFA-W(16) source
http://www.wotsit.org/              File formats
http://www.rowalt.de/gfabasic/      Roland Walter  GFA-W(16) source
http://TiGeR1.webjump.com/          TomR (me) lots of useful files

There are others listed on Dale's pages that you may want to visit.

Ok... I've about decided to drop out of this contest.  I cannot get
some serious problems resolved & am ready to use a large hammer on
the computer.  My asking help means that I've wasted a lot of time
on something & REALLY NEED HELP.  "Do by trying" is strictly B.S.!
Frustration is much greater than success!
TomR.

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Ouch.  It's all German Wolfgang.  :/
What does MacTimer do ?
Just Curious !  :)

Sincerely,
David W.

--- "W.Schindler" <w.schindler@josefstal.de> wrote:
> List Member "W.Schindler" <w.schindler@josefstal.de>
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> Hi Dale!
>=20
> > To all listers.
> > You are invited to send comments, opinions and
> many, many pieces of code to:
> > Don't be shy!!
>=20
> I hope I'll be allowed to keep on participating in
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> Pieces of code? Well, writing code is just a
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> -for the time beeing-
> I hardly have any.
> But I enjoy reading this list, reading how things
> I'd like to do, can be done,
> without the chance to do it myself right now :-(
> So regretfully, there's hardly something NEW to
> contribute from my side - my
> PC-Clock_Window works fine and keeps penetrating our
> CI.
> (if you want to take a glance at it:
> http://www.josefstal.de/mac/software/timer.htm)
> Since its code doesn't contain NEW techniques, I
> think its not usefull to put it
> in the list - no question, I'd publish the code, if
> you think I should.
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> mit freundlichen / herzlichen Gr=FC=DFen
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Greets Tom:

Please post your file as a nice .ZIP to download
and maybe can look at it better.  Sounds like you've
been busy.  :)

Sincerely,
David W.

--- Tom Record
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> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> The following runs 2 images (one change), then GPFs
> when going for #3.
> If I move "mec:" before GETEVENT, it takes Windows
> w/ it!  I'm loading
> *.jpg images from a $LNKed *.res.  Getting two
> images now indicates to 
> me that it's finally reading the flippin *.res.  I
> can't, however, get
> past the GPF.  IF I use a TIMER to handle anything,
> GPF BIG time!  Oh!
> Am using Roland's minijpeg.lib $LNKed into it, too. 
> Pretty fast this
> way!
> 
> In this, the first image crosses at center Y, the
> next just crosses at
> x=0.  I'll make the rest drop down their respective
> heights when I can
> get the !@#$#@! GPF cleared.  It'll be a screenfull
> left to right, top
> to bottom starting at the right, right to left
> starting at the bottom,
> bottom to top starting on the left.  I have this
> working in one that
> reads external files.  NOW I'm working toward a
> single file for the 
> whole thing.  *This* one is 138K & contains 12
> 108x81 (give or take)
> images & one that is more than 1/4 screen.  *That*
> is the client's
> logo image.  *My* small logo image will go in after
> it all works.
> 
> Roland isn't responding... can ANYbody else see my
> problem's cure?
> Please! Please! Please! Please! Please! Please!
> Please! Please! Please! 
> 
> By the way... I can, using my *.rc generator, prep
> an *.rc containing 
> the images & a versinfo that compiles in Borland to
> a useable *.res.
> <C>
> TomR.
> ------------------------------------
> 
> @LoadJpegRes(Picture&)
> 
> DO
>   GETEVENT
>   mec:
>   IF _Mess = WM_PAINT
>     FOR mac% = -widthDib% TO _X + 1 /* Horz
> position, have to clear the screen
>       EXIT IF MOUSEK & 2 /* piddlin "get me out" for
> now.
>       IF Picture& = 1 THEN
>         mic% = (_Y - heightDib%) / 2 /* Vert
> position
>       ELSE
>         mic% = 0
>       ENDIF
> /* This next line is wrapped!  This is Eudora!
>
~StretchDIBits(_DC(1),mac%,mic%,widthDib%,heightDib%,0,0,widthDib%,heightDib%,_
> ptrDib%+sizeBmiHdr%,ptrDib%,DIB_RGB_COLORS,SRCCOPY)
>       IF mac% > _X THEN
>         @Chg_Pix
>         mac% = 0
>         GOTO mec /* the ONLY way I can do this for
> the moment!
>         /*  @LoadJpegRes(Picture&) - happens in
> @Chg_Pix after the first image.
>      ENDIF
>     NEXT mac%
> UNTIL LaDiDa...
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--- Tom Record
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> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Wolfgang
> Post, post, post! <G>
> There are those of us that look at *everything*! 
> There is nearly always
> something done in a better way than we know how to. 
> That is why I would
> break Dale's neck if he quit writing his gfanl - I
> may *never* use most
> of what he collects, but there has certainly been a
> lot of good for me to
> try out.  I keep nearly everything handy on ZIP100
> disks.
> 
> This goes for those too timid or shy... if you
> figure how to do something
> new or difficult, please post it.  Half of my
> pleasure is in the idea that
> somebody else might learn something new from *my*
> posts.  The *other* half
> comes from getting the darned thing to work in the
> first place.  My latest
> "eater of lunch" was just posted a few minutes ago. 
> If someone would like
> to see the rest of the program, I'll post it all if
> asked.  I'm building
> a self-contained *.exe, but it will become a *.scr
> when working correctly.
> *THIS* sucker is destined for commercial sale by an
> image provider.
> <G>
> TomR.

Greets Tom:

It is a slideshow screen-saver ?
They've got a few of these out.  Tried one at work
years ago.  Okee, but the gazillion ways changing make
picture replace old on screen was nice.  Ya know:
Venetian Blind, SquareDrop, Materialize, Effervescent,
Stripper, Construction, SodaPop, FuzzyHaze, etc.

You gotta have stuff like that if you're trying to
compete against screensavers.  If you wanna win my
vote gimme a nice black screen every time or maybe
some Anime slideshows..  I don't go too much into
Screen-Savers.  "After Dark" is prolly one of the
biggest screen-saver companies out there and they
kinna overkill with over 60 different screen-savers !

Geesh how many ways you can darken a screen !  :)
Natch for my games & stuff I'll use my Kaleidoscope
as all ways.

Sincerely,
David W.

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--- Dale Bryant <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com>
> wrote:
> Send it to me at:
> adbryant@gfa.net
> and let me take a look at it.  You might be
> surprised.
> Dale
> 

Yah Dale can't be all bad he posts my stuff and some
if its really goofy !  :)  I don't think he'd turn
down anything that's original or even good improve
on what's already out there.

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> maybe I can't explain it in english, hop you will
> understand me:
> 
> Make 2 programms like the following:
> 
> Programm 1:
> 
> OPENW #4,-1,-1,0,0,0  // You will not see the
> window, it is hidden

* This is neat !

> SETTIMER 4,1,1000

* Okee a sec or so for window 4 ID # 1

> DO
>   PEEKEVENT              // Will give the most time
> to other programms
>   IF _Mess = WM_TIMER
>     BEEP   // All 1 Seconds
>     // Here you can send a message to your other
> programm or go to a
> procedure
>   ENDIF
> LOOP
> 
> Programm 2:

* Okay is this an other program not same one but
  different ?
> 
> OPENW #4
> DO
>   ? TIME$
>   PEEKEVENT
> LOOP
> 
> If you start programm 1 it will BEEP every second.
> You can start every other
> programm and it will still BEEP in the background,
> but if you start Programm
> 3 all other programms will not work anymore, because
> programm 3 will not
> give any time to other programms.
> 
> Programm 3:
> 
> OPENW #4
> DO
>   ? TIME$
> ////  PEEKEVENT
> LOOP
> 
> So, there is really no difference between ON
> _MESS=WM_TIMER GOSUB Tick
> and my example. You always need a PEEKEVENT, SLEEP
> or ... in your programm
> to let other programms work (is the same as the
> bluddy PAUSE). So you can
> write a programm what will run in the background and
> send you a message or
> you can take it in your own programm with SETTIMER.
> I tried the same with GB32 and the object, but that
> is exactly the same
> result. In that moment, you have no SLEEP in your
> programm windows will have
> no multi-task anymore.
> I am sure, if your dad buy the $2000-programm he
> will have the same result.
> 
> I like to here something about this from somebody
> else, I am right or
> not????????
> 
> Bye, Gunnar

* Gunnar it make sense to me I don't know what Dad
  going all on about.  Right now he wrote 10 different
  UNITs all running at same time I said use FOR I
  look write own structure, own time devices, won't
  run exactly all to gather but will give math
  answers right on running all same time.
  Yah I give up on him, he won't do way I say or
  way you sayed which make good sense to me !  :P

* I found hidden command in GFA16 !  Where are =ALL=
  the help commands !  It called CB works like this:

  CB -1,0 TO -1,callback()

  Anything happen you move mouse, shift key anything
  it call this routine anywhere pretty neato but not
  in help file !  :/

* I'm working on own graphic driver.  GFA is so not
  good it lock up out memory and I gotta release it
  all.  Writing own drivers you hit error or
  anything NEVER eats memory ever smart fix it all
  automatic and error comes up TRUE with cursor move
  to line error take place and error message !

Smart colors too can save true RGB 24 bit data and
read 24 bit data each pixel even if not 24 bit screen.
:)  Plot very VERY fast too same speed as A=5 .

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi Schmidt !  I gonna answer this one !

Wanna print real easy !
Have text file made: "MrPrint.TXT"

SHELL "copy mrprint.txt prn:"

Ta Dah !  :)

Hope This Helps !

Sincerely,
David W.

--- Schmidt <HSJWS@t-online.de> wrote:
> List Member HSJWS@t-online.de (Schmidt) wrote:
> I am new.I do not know how to handle this here. Try
> to contact anybody.
> I have the following problem. I want to print in Gfa
> basic windows 32. Who can 
> send me a little listing to do that, especially to
> select various printers, too 
> Gunnar Boenicke schrieb:
> > List Member gunnar.boenicke@t-online.de (Gunnar
> Boenicke) wrote:

> > > > Maybe this is better.
> > > >
> > > > FULLW #4
> > > > SETTIMER 4,1,5000
> > > > DO
> > > >   SLEEP
> > > >   IF _Mess = WM_TIMER
> > > >     ? TIME$  // All 5 Seconds
> > > >   ENDIF
> > > > LOOP
> > >
> > > Okay, sorta..  Is there a way to do
> > >
> > > ON _MESS=WM_TIMER GOSUB Tick
> > >
> > > Where it is running in the background all the
> times ?
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >   He's doing what's called
> > > > >   Object Oriented Programming what ever that
> is..
> > > >
> > > > This is what GB32 is doing now!!
> > > > My example from the timer in GB32 is the
> > > > Timer-Object!
> > >
> > > Hummm..  So GB16 can't do it then ?
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >   Hey saying all programs talk to each other
> send
> > > > >   signals and all running at once.
> > > >
> > > > Sorry, can't understand that. My english is
> not good
> > > > enough.
> > >
> > > Sorry I get a little excited and I've got a bit
> of
> > > dyslexia sometime okay, He is saying that all
> the
> > > programs they are talking to each other sending
> each
> > > other signals and all running together all at
> once.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > This is the timer Object, if you want use
> objects,
> > > > buy GB32.
> > > > > > Ocx Timer Timer1 = "" , 0, 0, 0, 0
> > > > > > ..Interval = 500
> > > > > > ..Enabled = True
> > > > > >
> > > > > > DO
> > > > > >   SLEEP
> > > > > > LOOP
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sub Timer1_Timer()
> > > > > > // All halve second
> > > > > > End Sub
> > > >
> > > > Bye, Gunnar
> > >
> > > Is there a way to do something like this in
> GFA16 ?
> > >
> > > Sincerely,
> > > David W.
> > >
> > Hi David,
> >
> > maybe I can't explain it in english, hop you will
> understand me:
> >
> > Make 2 programms like the following:
> >
> > Programm 1:
> >
> > OPENW #4,-1,-1,0,0,0  // You will not see the
> window, it is hidden
> > SETTIMER 4,1,1000
> > DO
> >   PEEKEVENT              // Will give the most
> time to other programms
> >   IF _Mess = WM_TIMER
> >     BEEP   // All 1 Seconds
> >     // Here you can send a message to your other
> programm or go to a
> > procedure
> >   ENDIF
> > LOOP
> >
> > Programm 2:
> >
> > OPENW #4
> > DO
> >   ? TIME$
> >   PEEKEVENT
> > LOOP
> >
> > If you start programm 1 it will BEEP every second.
> You can start every other
> > programm and it will still BEEP in the background,
> but if you start Programm
> > 3 all other programms will not work anymore,
> because programm 3 will not
> > give any time to other programms.
> >
> > Programm 3:
> >
> > OPENW #4
> > DO
> >   ? TIME$
> > ////  PEEKEVENT
> > LOOP
> >
> > So, there is really no difference between ON
> _MESS=WM_TIMER GOSUB Tick
> > and my example. You always need a PEEKEVENT, SLEEP
> or ... in your programm
> > to let other programms work (is the same as the
> bluddy PAUSE). So you can
> > write a programm what will run in the background
> and send you a message or
> > you can take it in your own programm with
> SETTIMER.
> > I tried the same with GB32 and the object, but
> that is exactly the same
> > result. In that moment, you have no SLEEP in your
> programm windows will have
> > no multi-task anymore.
> > I am sure, if your dad buy the $2000-programm he
> will have the same result.
> >
> > I like to here something about this from somebody
> else, I am right or
> > not????????
> >
> > Bye, Gunnar
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:


--- Micha=B3_Sejfried <42810730@pro.onet.pl> wrote:
> Hi to All
> Here Peter.
>=20
> I need source Gfabasic listing which load and show
> some pictures format (as GIF, JPG, TGA, ICO, PCX,
> TIFF) without DLL using.
> Have you got something about it? (information about
> bytes in graphic files).
>=20
> Best Regards
> Peter

Hooiee !  I sure would like to see sourcecode for
load & show nice .JPG picture !  :)

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Heyyyy !!

I can write a 8-bit Bitmap saver !
I'm learning all now bitmap stuff cause I need it
in true RGB for any screen even 4-bit color for
GameDev.

Whatcha wanna trade for it ??
And I'm not going to Paint your Fence for that
Red Apple !  :)

Sincerely,
David W.

--- Tom Record
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> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Peter
> On Dale's site, pick up Roland's JPEG package.  It
> contains a
> *.lib that reads & loads *.jpg when $LNKed in during
> compile.
> 
> You can't do anything with it EXCEPT after compiling
> the appl.
> 
> You might write your appl to use the companion *.dll
> while in
> the interpretor, then switch to the *.lib after
> compiling.  The
> interpretor will ignore the $LNK compiler directive.
>  The *.lib
> is considerably faster than the *.dll, BUT... you
> MUST compile
> using wgen.exe!  I don't think the interpretor's
> "Make .exe"
> will recognize the compiler directives.
> 
> With John's *.gif, you now have 2 formats you can
> read other than
> just *.bmp.
> 
> Using the savebmp.lst/gfw, you can also add saving a
> *.bmp.  You
> will NOT be able to save 8-bit properly unless you
> set your monitor
> to 8-bit, however!  It will save 16-bit OK if set to
> 16-bit & will
> save 24-bit quite nicely despite the setting as long
> as it's 8-bit 
> or greater.  1-bit save is OK, but I *think* to get
> a good 4-bit
> requires your graphics setting to be 4-bit.  This
> *may* work at 8-bit
> but I havion't tried it.  I work only at 8-bit &
> greater.
> 
> While on Dale's site, get Eberhard's image editor! 
> This gives you
> GFA-W(16) source for converting (& saving) between
> 8, 16, 24 & 32-bit.
> He also has a loadbmp routine, or you can go for
> Hamstra's loadbmp.gfw.
> 
> *This* gives you 3 formats to read & one to save
> (with 4 or 6 subformats
> in *.bmp).
> 
> NOBODY has yet come out w/ a GFA *.jpg write
> routine, but it is being
> looked at.
> 
> Using nviewl16.dll, you have 5 or 6 load formats &
> *.jpg save.  Note of
> caution, tho... it reads ONLY non-interlaced *.gif
> properly & may NOT
> saveas properly.  Also... *SOME* *.pcx are screwy &
> won't saveas properly.
> *IF* it reads an animated *.gif properly, it reads
> ONLY the first image.
> Nviewl16.dll is FREE!  You can get many more formats
> & saves, but these
> *.dlls range from $100US to $2000US!  Steve Thornton
> (I think) has been
> sucessful in getting wecjlib.dll to work properly,
> but I have failed at
> every attempt.  It's "free" - the owner has gone out
> of business.
> 
> Oh, yes... nviewl16.dll can NOT handle Progressive
> JPEGs, either.
> 
> Using Roland's Codec routines, you have an option of
> loading/writing
> msvideo Codec-compressed *.bmp (or *.dib).  A Codec
> viewer will loaf
> & display *ALMOST* any *.bmp (MUST be a standard
> color depth), but
> ONLY the Codec routines will load & display
> Codec-compressed images.
> Codec requires MS's VfW, v1.1a or later & a 32-bit
> environment.  
> Win3.1 w/ W32s installed is the minimum requirement!
> 
> Some useful URLs:
> http://gfa.net/adbryant/files.htm   Dale Bryant 
> GFA-W(16) source
> http://www.wotsit.org/              File formats
> http://www.rowalt.de/gfabasic/      Roland Walter 
> GFA-W(16) source
> http://TiGeR1.webjump.com/          TomR (me) lots
> of useful files
> 
> There are others listed on Dale's pages that you may
> want to visit.
> 
> Ok... I've about decided to drop out of this
> contest.  I cannot get
> some serious problems resolved & am ready to use a
> large hammer on
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List Member HSJWS@t-online.de (Schmidt) wrote:
hi David,
thanks a lot. Excuse my stupide question. How can I get the text file 
"NrPrint.TXT?"
David Wicker schrieb:
> List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hi Schmidt !  I gonna answer this one !
>
> Wanna print real easy !
> Have text file made: "MrPrint.TXT"
>
> SHELL "copy mrprint.txt prn:"
>
> Ta Dah !  :)
>
> Hope This Helps !
>
> Sincerely,
> David W.
>
> --- Schmidt <HSJWS@t-online.de> wrote:
> > List Member HSJWS@t-online.de (Schmidt) wrote:
> > I am new.I do not know how to handle this here. Try
> > to contact anybody.
> > I have the following problem. I want to print in Gfa
> > basic windows 32. Who can 
> > send me a little listing to do that, especially to
> > select various printers, too 
> > Gunnar Boenicke schrieb:
> > > List Member gunnar.boenicke@t-online.de (Gunnar
> > Boenicke) wrote:
>
> > > > > Maybe this is better.
> > > > >
> > > > > FULLW #4
> > > > > SETTIMER 4,1,5000
> > > > > DO
> > > > >   SLEEP
> > > > >   IF _Mess = WM_TIMER
> > > > >     ? TIME$  // All 5 Seconds
> > > > >   ENDIF
> > > > > LOOP
> > > >
> > > > Okay, sorta..  Is there a way to do
> > > >
> > > > ON _MESS=WM_TIMER GOSUB Tick
> > > >
> > > > Where it is running in the background all the
> > times ?
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >   He's doing what's called
> > > > > >   Object Oriented Programming what ever that
> > is..
> > > > >
> > > > > This is what GB32 is doing now!!
> > > > > My example from the timer in GB32 is the
> > > > > Timer-Object!
> > > >
> > > > Hummm..  So GB16 can't do it then ?
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >   Hey saying all programs talk to each other
> > send
> > > > > >   signals and all running at once.
> > > > >
> > > > > Sorry, can't understand that. My english is
> > not good
> > > > > enough.
> > > >
> > > > Sorry I get a little excited and I've got a bit
> > of
> > > > dyslexia sometime okay, He is saying that all
> > the
> > > > programs they are talking to each other sending
> > each
> > > > other signals and all running together all at
> > once.
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > This is the timer Object, if you want use
> > objects,
> > > > > buy GB32.
> > > > > > > Ocx Timer Timer1 = "" , 0, 0, 0, 0
> > > > > > > ..Interval = 500
> > > > > > > ..Enabled = True
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > DO
> > > > > > >   SLEEP
> > > > > > > LOOP
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Sub Timer1_Timer()
> > > > > > > // All halve second
> > > > > > > End Sub
> > > > >
> > > > > Bye, Gunnar
> > > >
> > > > Is there a way to do something like this in
> > GFA16 ?
> > > >
> > > > Sincerely,
> > > > David W.
> > > >
> > > Hi David,
> > >
> > > maybe I can't explain it in english, hop you will
> > understand me:
> > >
> > > Make 2 programms like the following:
> > >
> > > Programm 1:
> > >
> > > OPENW #4,-1,-1,0,0,0  // You will not see the
> > window, it is hidden
> > > SETTIMER 4,1,1000
> > > DO
> > >   PEEKEVENT              // Will give the most
> > time to other programms
> > >   IF _Mess = WM_TIMER
> > >     BEEP   // All 1 Seconds
> > >     // Here you can send a message to your other
> > programm or go to a
> > > procedure
> > >   ENDIF
> > > LOOP
> > >
> > > Programm 2:
> > >
> > > OPENW #4
> > > DO
> > >   ? TIME$
> > >   PEEKEVENT
> > > LOOP
> > >
> > > If you start programm 1 it will BEEP every second.
> > You can start every other
> > > programm and it will still BEEP in the background,
> > but if you start Programm
> > > 3 all other programms will not work anymore,
> > because programm 3 will not
> > > give any time to other programms.
> > >
> > > Programm 3:
> > >
> > > OPENW #4
> > > DO
> > >   ? TIME$
> > > ////  PEEKEVENT
> > > LOOP
> > >
> > > So, there is really no difference between ON
> > _MESS=WM_TIMER GOSUB Tick
> > > and my example. You always need a PEEKEVENT, SLEEP
> > or ... in your programm
> > > to let other programms work (is the same as the
> > bluddy PAUSE). So you can
> > > write a programm what will run in the background
> > and send you a message or
> > > you can take it in your own programm with
> > SETTIMER.
> > > I tried the same with GB32 and the object, but
> > that is exactly the same
> > > result. In that moment, you have no SLEEP in your
> > programm windows will have
> > > no multi-task anymore.
> > > I am sure, if your dad buy the $2000-programm he
> > will have the same result.
> > >
> > > I like to here something about this from somebody
> > else, I am right or
> > > not????????
> > >
> > > Bye, Gunnar
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
~GlobalUnlock(hDib&)
~GlobalFree(hDib&)

Innocuous looking pair of statements, no?  Well... Windows will
tolerate them ONE TIME ONLY... when the appl shuts down & clears
memory of everything.

Give me a little time to reorganize the screensaver - it's 4 in=20
the morning in Tulsa & my left eye has been bugging me all night.

When I *do* post it, it will be without the comments Roland put
into *his* part of it to save space & time.  If you want to read
his comments, get the original file from Dale - the comments are=20
in English.

I'm still alive because I'm hard headed!  It is also the only=20
reason I finally got this bomb defused!  "Cut & try" is NOT a
very good means of working out bugs in programming!

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Harmloses sehend Paar Behauptungen, nein?  Gut... Windows wird =20
tolerieren Sie sie, EINS timt NUR..., wenn der appl schlie=DFt, & r=E4umt=
 auf =20
Ged=E4chtnis von allem. =20
 =20
Geben Sie mir eine kleine Zeit, um den screensaver (schoner ) zu=
 reorganisieren=20
-es ist 4 in der Morgen in Tulsa & mein linkes Auge hat mich alle Nacht
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 =20
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
I've seen, but can't find, how to trap WM_PAINT & keep it from
clearing the screen of everything but what is being painted at 
the moment it happens.

Can someone please tell me how to avoid this?  As each image 
passes across the screen, it leaves a trail of colors - what
ever is on the trailing edge.  I want to keep this & paint
over it some time later w/ another image, but WM_PAINT appears 
to be wiping the screen clean every so often like a CLS.

Am up to v10p w/ this thing!
TomR.

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Oh !  That's easy, Schmidt.

OPEN "o",#1,"MrPrint.TXT"
PRINT #1,"Text"
PRINT #1,"More Text"
PRINT #1,"Even More Text!"
CLOSE #1
SHELL "copy mrprint.txt prn:"

It's just a nice text file !
Put any thing you want between the OPEN "o" #1
and the CLOSE #1.

You're doing a NICE DOS SHELL to copy a file
you making in GFA to the printer.  Win98 is a smart
cookie and knows you want to print it then.

Hope This Helps !

Sincerely,
David W.

--- Schmidt <HSJWS@t-online.de> wrote:
> List Member HSJWS@t-online.de (Schmidt) wrote:
> hi David,
> thanks a lot. Excuse my stupide question. How can I
> get the text file 
> "NrPrint.TXT?"
> David Wicker schrieb:
> > List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Hi Schmidt !  I gonna answer this one !
> >
> > Wanna print real easy !
> > Have text file made: "MrPrint.TXT"
> >
> > SHELL "copy mrprint.txt prn:"
> >
> > Ta Dah !  :)
> >
> > Hope This Helps !
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > David W.
> >
> > --- Schmidt <HSJWS@t-online.de> wrote:
> > > List Member HSJWS@t-online.de (Schmidt) wrote:
> > > I am new.I do not know how to handle this here.
> Try
> > > to contact anybody.
> > > I have the following problem. I want to print in
> Gfa
> > > basic windows 32. Who can 
> > > send me a little listing to do that, especially
> to
> > > select various printers, too 
> > > Gunnar Boenicke schrieb:
> > > > List Member gunnar.boenicke@t-online.de
> (Gunnar
> > > Boenicke) wrote:
> >
> > > > > > Maybe this is better.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > FULLW #4
> > > > > > SETTIMER 4,1,5000
> > > > > > DO
> > > > > >   SLEEP
> > > > > >   IF _Mess = WM_TIMER
> > > > > >     ? TIME$  // All 5 Seconds
> > > > > >   ENDIF
> > > > > > LOOP
> > > > >
> > > > > Okay, sorta..  Is there a way to do
> > > > >
> > > > > ON _MESS=WM_TIMER GOSUB Tick
> > > > >
> > > > > Where it is running in the background all
> the
> > > times ?
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >   He's doing what's called
> > > > > > >   Object Oriented Programming what ever
> that
> > > is..
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This is what GB32 is doing now!!
> > > > > > My example from the timer in GB32 is the
> > > > > > Timer-Object!
> > > > >
> > > > > Hummm..  So GB16 can't do it then ?
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >   Hey saying all programs talk to each
> other
> > > send
> > > > > > >   signals and all running at once.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sorry, can't understand that. My english
> is
> > > not good
> > > > > > enough.
> > > > >
> > > > > Sorry I get a little excited and I've got a
> bit
> > > of
> > > > > dyslexia sometime okay, He is saying that
> all
> > > the
> > > > > programs they are talking to each other
> sending
> > > each
> > > > > other signals and all running together all
> at
> > > once.
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This is the timer Object, if you want use
> > > objects,
> > > > > > buy GB32.
> > > > > > > > Ocx Timer Timer1 = "" , 0, 0, 0, 0
> > > > > > > > ..Interval = 500
> > > > > > > > ..Enabled = True
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > DO
> > > > > > > >   SLEEP
> > > > > > > > LOOP
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Sub Timer1_Timer()
> > > > > > > > // All halve second
> > > > > > > > End Sub
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Bye, Gunnar
> > > > >
> > > > > Is there a way to do something like this in
> > > GFA16 ?
> > > > >
> > > > > Sincerely,
> > > > > David W.
> > > > >
> > > > Hi David,
> > > >
> > > > maybe I can't explain it in english, hop you
> will
> > > understand me:
> > > >
> > > > Make 2 programms like the following:
> > > >
> > > > Programm 1:
> > > >
> > > > OPENW #4,-1,-1,0,0,0  // You will not see the
> > > window, it is hidden
> > > > SETTIMER 4,1,1000
> > > > DO
> > > >   PEEKEVENT              // Will give the most
> > > time to other programms
> > > >   IF _Mess = WM_TIMER
> > > >     BEEP   // All 1 Seconds
> > > >     // Here you can send a message to your
> other
> > > programm or go to a
> > > > procedure
> > > >   ENDIF
> > > > LOOP
> > > >
> > > > Programm 2:
> > > >
> > > > OPENW #4
> > > > DO
> > > >   ? TIME$
> > > >   PEEKEVENT
> > > > LOOP
> > > >
> > > > If you start programm 1 it will BEEP every
> second.
> > > You can start every other
> > > > programm and it will still BEEP in the
> background,
> > > but if you start Programm
> > > > 3 all other programms will not work anymore,
> > > because programm 3 will not
> > > > give any time to other programms.
> > > >
> > > > Programm 3:
> > > >
> > > > OPENW #4
> > > > DO
> > > >   ? TIME$
> > > > ////  PEEKEVENT
> > > > LOOP
> > > >
> > > > So, there is really no difference between ON
> > > _MESS=WM_TIMER GOSUB Tick
> > > > and my example. You always need a PEEKEVENT,
> SLEEP
> > > or ... in your programm
> > > > to let other programms work (is the same as
> the
> > > bluddy PAUSE). So you can
> > > > write a programm what will run in the
> background
> > > and send you a message or
> > > > you can take it in your own programm with
> > > SETTIMER.
> > > > I tried the same with GB32 and the object, but
> > > that is exactly the same
> > > > result. In that moment, you have no SLEEP in
> your
> > > programm windows will have
> > > > no multi-task anymore.
> > > > I am sure, if your dad buy the $2000-programm
> he
> > > will have the same result.
> > > >
> > > > I like to here something about this from
> somebody
> > > else, I am right or
> > > > not????????
> > > >
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Greets Tom !  I can help you there !  :)

You can make use of Russell's Most Excellent
WindowLock, or if you just want to check and
see if the window needs a refresh, you can use:

PEEKEVENT
IF MENU(1)=21 THEN MyRefreshRoutine

Make SURE to have that MENU(1) after the PEEKEVENT
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GFA gets lost sometimes if you don't put them in this
order.

Hope This Helps !

Sincerely,
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> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> I've seen, but can't find, how to trap WM_PAINT &
> keep it from
> clearing the screen of everything but what is being
> painted at 
> the moment it happens.
> 
> Can someone please tell me how to avoid this?  As
> each image 
> passes across the screen, it leaves a trail of
> colors - what
> ever is on the trailing edge.  I want to keep this &
> paint
> over it some time later w/ another image, but
> WM_PAINT appears 
> to be wiping the screen clean every so often like a
> CLS.
> 
> Am up to v10p w/ this thing!
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List Member Pat Bullman <pbullman@norex.com.au> wrote:
Tom,

If you're trying to stop the WM_PAINT then you need use RETVAL 0 to cancel
the message.  Ah but this only works, I think, if use a Callback to trap
the message or are using CreateWindow and the 

  WHILE GetMessage(*msg., NULL, 0, 0)
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method to handle messages.


Pat

At 11:15 29/04/00 +0000, you wrote:
>List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>I've seen, but can't find, how to trap WM_PAINT & keep it from
>clearing the screen of everything but what is being painted at 
>the moment it happens.
>
>Can someone please tell me how to avoid this?  As each image 
>passes across the screen, it leaves a trail of colors - what
>ever is on the trailing edge.  I want to keep this & paint
>over it some time later w/ another image, but WM_PAINT appears 
>to be wiping the screen clean every so often like a CLS.
>
>Am up to v10p w/ this thing!
>TomR.
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
It's a screensaver, David - no need to be nice to other programs
by using PEEKEVENT or GETEVENT.  NOT looking for a chance to
refresh - want to AVOID it.
TomR.


At 05:57 AM 29/04/00 -0700, you wrote:
>List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Greets Tom !  I can help you there !  :)
>
>You can make use of Russell's Most Excellent
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>see if the window needs a refresh, you can use:
>
>PEEKEVENT
>IF MENU(1)=21 THEN MyRefreshRoutine
>
>Make SURE to have that MENU(1) after the PEEKEVENT
>and the PEEKEVENT just before the MENU statement !
>
>GFA gets lost sometimes if you don't put them in this
>order.
>
>Hope This Helps !
>
>Sincerely,
>David W.
>
>
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>> List Member Tom Record
>> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> I've seen, but can't find, how to trap WM_PAINT &
>> keep it from
>> clearing the screen of everything but what is being
>> painted at 
>> the moment it happens.
>> 
>> Can someone please tell me how to avoid this?  As
>> each image 
>> passes across the screen, it leaves a trail of
>> colors - what
>> ever is on the trailing edge.  I want to keep this &
>> paint
>> over it some time later w/ another image, but
>> WM_PAINT appears 
>> to be wiping the screen clean every so often like a
>> CLS.
>> 
>> Am up to v10p w/ this thing!
>> TomR.
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Ok... have everything working now except for the scrubbing of what's
on the screen.  Donno just what is hitting me... 1st image clears the
screen OK, 2nd image gets 1/2 way across, then the wipeout hits & all
of a sudden the 2nd image is the only thing onscreen, in the middle,
headed offscreen.  From there, it's mostly normal but the above hits 
EVERY time it's run.

1st image is a large *.jpg logo, the rest are all just *.jpg thumbnails.

I'm off to bed - is 11.  Yes, morning!
<G>
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Looks sorta like what I *feel* I remember.  Thanks, Pat.
<G>
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At 11:36 PM 29/04/00 +1000, you wrote:
>List Member Pat Bullman <pbullman@norex.com.au> wrote:
>Tom,
>
>If you're trying to stop the WM_PAINT then you need use RETVAL 0 to cancel
>the message.  Ah but this only works, I think, if use a Callback to trap
>the message or are using CreateWindow and the 
>
>  WHILE GetMessage(*msg., NULL, 0, 0)
>    ~TranslateMessage(*msg.)
>    ~DispatchMessage(*msg.)
>  WEND
>
>method to handle messages.
>
>
>Pat
>
>At 11:15 29/04/00 +0000, you wrote:
>>List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>>I've seen, but can't find, how to trap WM_PAINT & keep it from
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>>the moment it happens.
>>
>>Can someone please tell me how to avoid this?  As each image 
>>passes across the screen, it leaves a trail of colors - what
>>ever is on the trailing edge.  I want to keep this & paint
>>over it some time later w/ another image, but WM_PAINT appears 
>>to be wiping the screen clean every so often like a CLS.
>>
>>Am up to v10p w/ this thing!
>>TomR.
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List Member "Russell Hayward" <russ@softhome.net> wrote:
Hi Tom,

> I've seen, but can't find, how to trap WM_PAINT & keep it from
> clearing the screen of everything but what is being painted at
> the moment it happens.
>
> Can someone please tell me how to avoid this?  As each image
> passes across the screen, it leaves a trail of colors - what
> ever is on the trailing edge.  I want to keep this & paint
> over it some time later w/ another image, but WM_PAINT appears
> to be wiping the screen clean every so often like a CLS.

I think that this is the most annoying thing in GFA Basic, anyone else have
any nominations? Fortunately it is quite easy to fix, try this:

CB WIN([Window Number]),WM_PAINT,PaintProc
' The next one is only required when you have a resizeable window
CB WIN([Window Number]),WM_NCPAINT,PaintProc
...
PROCEDURE PaintProc(Win&,Mess&,wPar&,lPar%)
  KILLEVENT
  RETVAL DefWindowProc(Win&,Mess&,wPar&,lPar%)
RETURN

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List Member Wolfgang Schindler <W.Schindler@josefstal.de> wrote:
Hi David,


> List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Ouch.  It's all German Wolfgang.  :/
> What does MacTimer do ?

it's a clock, alarmclock, sandglas, check-clock an stopwatch.

Just try and see, if you want it.


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Subject: [gfabasic] CLS, NOT WM_PAINT!
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
For those interested... the delimma is:

It issues a CLS, using the indicated color!  The timing is such that
it does this as the 3rd thumb crosses the area of the logo.  I caught
it because I altered the CLS color.

I've added a timeout, then a CLS @ color, then a shorter timeout just
to maybe get away from the larger logo image being a problem.  It still 
happens when the 3rd thumb is about 125% into the logo's area.  Having
or not having the logo image there makes absolutely no difference.  It
occurs ONLY when the logo image has been the first displayed... on 
subsequent cycles (left running) it doesn't occur.

I would appreciate tremendously if somebody would run this thing &
look at the source to see if they can see the problem.  *This* one is
NOT too shocking, but requires an adult mind.  I ask a critique on the
program, itself, NOT the image content.

I will provide it as an *.exe so it can be run by double-clicking it or
by using the icon in it.  There is only a 3 statement difference between
*.exe & *.scr.

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Thank you, Russ
I'll try it, but I'm convinced now that it's using CLS somehow.
It does the trick using the CLS color!
<G>
TomR.


At 09:54 PM 29/04/00 +0100, you wrote:
>List Member "Russell Hayward" <russ@softhome.net> wrote:
>Hi Tom,
>
>> I've seen, but can't find, how to trap WM_PAINT & keep it from
>> clearing the screen of everything but what is being painted at
>> the moment it happens.
>>
>> Can someone please tell me how to avoid this?  As each image
>> passes across the screen, it leaves a trail of colors - what
>> ever is on the trailing edge.  I want to keep this & paint
>> over it some time later w/ another image, but WM_PAINT appears
>> to be wiping the screen clean every so often like a CLS.
>
>I think that this is the most annoying thing in GFA Basic, anyone else have
>any nominations? Fortunately it is quite easy to fix, try this:
>
>CB WIN([Window Number]),WM_PAINT,PaintProc
>' The next one is only required when you have a resizeable window
>CB WIN([Window Number]),WM_NCPAINT,PaintProc
>...
>PROCEDURE PaintProc(Win&,Mess&,wPar&,lPar%)
>  KILLEVENT
>  RETVAL DefWindowProc(Win&,Mess&,wPar&,lPar%)
>RETURN
>
>HTH,
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
/* wm0paint.lst - a Russell Hayward fix.

CB WIN(1),WM_PAINT,PaintProc
' The next one is only required when you have a resizeable window
CB WIN(1),WM_NCPAINT,PaintProc
. ..

PROCEDURE PaintProc(Win&,Mess&,wPar&,lPar%)
  KILLEVENT
  RETVAL DefWindowProc(Win&,Mess&,wPar&,lPar%)
RETURN
/* Russell Hayward, 29 Apr 2000

I donno why, but it works!  Thanks!!
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List Member mick.fooks@btinternet.com wrote:

Hi folks, I apologise in advance for my long-winded induction to this newsgroup,
but I hope it will clarify why I (anticipate) post seemingly dumb questions.
In the 1980s I used to run GFA BASIC on the Atari ST's and thoroughly enjoyed
it. Pressure at work forced me onto PCs in the early 1990s and I bought a copy
of GFA BASIC (PC) when it was first released, however work again forced me down
another software route.
Recently a new project has allowed me to delve into GFA BASIC once again, so
I've upgraded to the latest version. Problem; my 1990s hard copy of the GFA
Manual seems to be as much use as the MSVB6 manual when checking up on GFA keyword
syntax. I tried to use the tutor that is supplied with GFA BASIC but Tumbleweed
crashes spectacularly before it even gets to an opening screen.
I've installed Dale's GFA Help Proggy (brilliant thanks) but that only opens
up even more wonders to me. I spent two hours trying to find what all these
underscore (_AX _BX etc) things were - don't believe me- try doing an online
search for the underscore, my hard copy doesn't recognise them.
Hence my first dumb question:
In the Editor I have a button marked rc$, activating this takes me to a window
design sub-program, which I can muddle through. On completion I am prompted
to save the file as an GFR, now what do I do with it, I can't merge it cos only
LST files are allowed, I can't load it cos it's not a GFW. Seems all I can do
is put it in the rubbish bin
Is there a help file for this rc$ procedure.

Mike Fooks
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Oh..  Well if you gonna get GRABBY on screen just
use KILLEVENT.  :)

Tom I'm asking cause I don't know, when you making a
.DLL, how do you keep values like:
                 /
=== Program #1 \/_

$LIBRARY Fruit
$LNK EXE Fruit.DLL
Apple=25
                 /
=== Program #2 \/_

DLL #1,"Fruit.DLL"
PRINT Apple
FREEDLL #1

It comes back
0

How do you send Apple from DLL Fruit to an other
program ?

Sincerely,
David W.

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> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> It's a screensaver, David - no need to be nice to
> other programs
> by using PEEKEVENT or GETEVENT.  NOT looking for a
> chance to
> refresh - want to AVOID it.
> TomR.
> 
> 
> At 05:57 AM 29/04/00 -0700, you wrote:
> >List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >Greets Tom !  I can help you there !  :)
> >
> >You can make use of Russell's Most Excellent
> >WindowLock, or if you just want to check and
> >see if the window needs a refresh, you can use:
> >
> >PEEKEVENT
> >IF MENU(1)=21 THEN MyRefreshRoutine
> >
> >Make SURE to have that MENU(1) after the PEEKEVENT
> >and the PEEKEVENT just before the MENU statement !
> >
> >GFA gets lost sometimes if you don't put them in
> this
> >order.
> >
> >Hope This Helps !
> >
> >Sincerely,
> >David W.
> >
> >
> >--- Tom Record
> ><tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> >> List Member Tom Record
> >> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net>
> wrote:
> >> I've seen, but can't find, how to trap WM_PAINT &
> >> keep it from
> >> clearing the screen of everything but what is
> being
> >> painted at 
> >> the moment it happens.
> >> 
> >> Can someone please tell me how to avoid this?  As
> >> each image 
> >> passes across the screen, it leaves a trail of
> >> colors - what
> >> ever is on the trailing edge.  I want to keep
> this &
> >> paint
> >> over it some time later w/ another image, but
> >> WM_PAINT appears 
> >> to be wiping the screen clean every so often like
> a
> >> CLS.
> >> 
> >> Am up to v10p w/ this thing!
> >> TomR.
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Oh !  Okay, well if I try and figuring out this .DLL
stuff so I can post QBlitz pretty soon hopefully know
how soon.

It's very nice !  Very fast plot pixels use 256
R/G/B and doesn't matter screen type even 16 color,
interprets all correctly and NO push space used.
You can break out in error anywheres and its ok
with it !  Oh when you plot its hidden too till you
call Q_Update so you got WindowLock minus the push
memory needed.  Russell I'll probably still use
WindowLock cause right now you can only plot one
dot at a time still very fast tho.

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Greets Tom:

If you just wanna clear the screen you gotta get
pushy with Windows.  :)

COLOR 0
KILLEVENT
FOR I=0 TO _Y \ 60
  PBOX 0,0,_X,_Y
  PEEKEVENT
NEXT I

Hope This Helps !

Sincerely,
David W.

--- Tom Record
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> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> For those interested... the delimma is:
> 
> It issues a CLS, using the indicated color!  The
> timing is such that
> it does this as the 3rd thumb crosses the area of
> the logo.  I caught
> it because I altered the CLS color.
> 
> I've added a timeout, then a CLS @ color, then a
> shorter timeout just
> to maybe get away from the larger logo image being a
> problem.  It still 
> happens when the 3rd thumb is about 125% into the
> logo's area.  Having
> or not having the logo image there makes absolutely
> no difference.  It
> occurs ONLY when the logo image has been the first
> displayed... on 
> subsequent cycles (left running) it doesn't occur.
> 
> I would appreciate tremendously if somebody would
> run this thing &
> look at the source to see if they can see the
> problem.  *This* one is
> NOT too shocking, but requires an adult mind.  I ask
> a critique on the
> program, itself, NOT the image content.
> 
> I will provide it as an *.exe so it can be run by
> double-clicking it or
> by using the icon in it.  There is only a 3
> statement difference between
> *.exe & *.scr.
> 
> <G>
> TomR.
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Greets Mike !
And welcome to the GFAForum !  :)

I read your letter but what kinna software
do you write, ya know, VideoGames, RPGs, shooters,
platform games, top-view tactical, graphical,
audical, or just plain old business stuff ?

Yah I'm biased.  :P

Sincerely,
David W.

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> 
> Hi folks, I apologise in advance for my long-winded
> induction to this newsgroup,
> but I hope it will clarify why I (anticipate) post
> seemingly dumb questions.
> In the 1980s I used to run GFA BASIC on the Atari
> ST's and thoroughly enjoyed
> it. Pressure at work forced me onto PCs in the early
> 1990s and I bought a copy
> of GFA BASIC (PC) when it was first released,
> however work again forced me down
> another software route.
> Recently a new project has allowed me to delve into
> GFA BASIC once again, so
> I've upgraded to the latest version. Problem; my
> 1990s hard copy of the GFA
> Manual seems to be as much use as the MSVB6 manual
> when checking up on GFA keyword
> syntax. I tried to use the tutor that is supplied
> with GFA BASIC but Tumbleweed
> crashes spectacularly before it even gets to an
> opening screen.
> I've installed Dale's GFA Help Proggy (brilliant
> thanks) but that only opens
> up even more wonders to me. I spent two hours trying
> to find what all these
> underscore (_AX _BX etc) things were - don't believe
> me- try doing an online
> search for the underscore, my hard copy doesn't
> recognise them.
> Hence my first dumb question:
> In the Editor I have a button marked rc$, activating
> this takes me to a window
> design sub-program, which I can muddle through. On
> completion I am prompted
> to save the file as an GFR, now what do I do with
> it, I can't merge it cos only
> LST files are allowed, I can't load it cos it's not
> a GFW. Seems all I can do
> is put it in the rubbish bin
> Is there a help file for this rc$ procedure.
> 
> Mike Fooks
> Slowly controlling his frustration.
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List Member HSJWS@t-online.de (Schmidt) wrote:
Thank you very much, David.
Hope it works well. Must print lots of GRAPHICAL hardcopies. Does the same 
procedure work, too? 
schrieb:
> List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Oh !  That's easy, Schmidt.
>
> OPEN "o",#1,"MrPrint.TXT"
> PRINT #1,"Text"
> PRINT #1,"More Text"
> PRINT #1,"Even More Text!"
> CLOSE #1
> SHELL "copy mrprint.txt prn:"
>
> It's just a nice text file !
> Put any thing you want between the OPEN "o" #1
> and the CLOSE #1.
>
> You're doing a NICE DOS SHELL to copy a file
> you making in GFA to the printer.  Win98 is a smart
> cookie and knows you want to print it then.
>
> Hope This Helps !
>
> Sincerely,
> David W.
>
> --- Schmidt <HSJWS@t-online.de> wrote:
> > List Member HSJWS@t-online.de (Schmidt) wrote:
> > hi David,
> > thanks a lot. Excuse my stupide question. How can I
> > get the text file 
> > "NrPrint.TXT?"
> > David Wicker schrieb:
> > > List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > Hi Schmidt !  I gonna answer this one !
> > >
> > > Wanna print real easy !
> > > Have text file made: "MrPrint.TXT"
> > >
> > > SHELL "copy mrprint.txt prn:"
> > >
> > > Ta Dah !  :)
> > >
> > > Hope This Helps !
> > >
> > > Sincerely,
> > > David W.
> > >
> > > --- Schmidt <HSJWS@t-online.de> wrote:
> > > > List Member HSJWS@t-online.de (Schmidt) wrote:
> > > > I am new.I do not know how to handle this here.
> > Try
> > > > to contact anybody.
> > > > I have the following problem. I want to print in
> > Gfa
> > > > basic windows 32. Who can 
> > > > send me a little listing to do that, especially
> > to
> > > > select various printers, too 
> > > > Gunnar Boenicke schrieb:
> > > > > List Member gunnar.boenicke@t-online.de
> > (Gunnar
> > > > Boenicke) wrote:
> > >
> > > > > > > Maybe this is better.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > FULLW #4
> > > > > > > SETTIMER 4,1,5000
> > > > > > > DO
> > > > > > >   SLEEP
> > > > > > >   IF _Mess = WM_TIMER
> > > > > > >     ? TIME$  // All 5 Seconds
> > > > > > >   ENDIF
> > > > > > > LOOP
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Okay, sorta..  Is there a way to do
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ON _MESS=WM_TIMER GOSUB Tick
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Where it is running in the background all
> > the
> > > > times ?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >   He's doing what's called
> > > > > > > >   Object Oriented Programming what ever
> > that
> > > > is..
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > This is what GB32 is doing now!!
> > > > > > > My example from the timer in GB32 is the
> > > > > > > Timer-Object!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hummm..  So GB16 can't do it then ?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >   Hey saying all programs talk to each
> > other
> > > > send
> > > > > > > >   signals and all running at once.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Sorry, can't understand that. My english
> > is
> > > > not good
> > > > > > > enough.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sorry I get a little excited and I've got a
> > bit
> > > > of
> > > > > > dyslexia sometime okay, He is saying that
> > all
> > > > the
> > > > > > programs they are talking to each other
> > sending
> > > > each
> > > > > > other signals and all running together all
> > at
> > > > once.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > This is the timer Object, if you want use
> > > > objects,
> > > > > > > buy GB32.
> > > > > > > > > Ocx Timer Timer1 = "" , 0, 0, 0, 0
> > > > > > > > > ..Interval = 500
> > > > > > > > > ..Enabled = True
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > DO
> > > > > > > > >   SLEEP
> > > > > > > > > LOOP
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Sub Timer1_Timer()
> > > > > > > > > // All halve second
> > > > > > > > > End Sub
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Bye, Gunnar
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Is there a way to do something like this in
> > > > GFA16 ?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sincerely,
> > > > > > David W.
> > > > > >
> > > > > Hi David,
> > > > >
> > > > > maybe I can't explain it in english, hop you
> > will
> > > > understand me:
> > > > >
> > > > > Make 2 programms like the following:
> > > > >
> > > > > Programm 1:
> > > > >
> > > > > OPENW #4,-1,-1,0,0,0  // You will not see the
> > > > window, it is hidden
> > > > > SETTIMER 4,1,1000
> > > > > DO
> > > > >   PEEKEVENT              // Will give the most
> > > > time to other programms
> > > > >   IF _Mess = WM_TIMER
> > > > >     BEEP   // All 1 Seconds
> > > > >     // Here you can send a message to your
> > other
> > > > programm or go to a
> > > > > procedure
> > > > >   ENDIF
> > > > > LOOP
> > > > >
> > > > > Programm 2:
> > > > >
> > > > > OPENW #4
> > > > > DO
> > > > >   ? TIME$
> > > > >   PEEKEVENT
> > > > > LOOP
> > > > >
> > > > > If you start programm 1 it will BEEP every
> > second.
> > > > You can start every other
> > > > > programm and it will still BEEP in the
> > background,
> > > > but if you start Programm
> > > > > 3 all other programms will not work anymore,
> > > > because programm 3 will not
> > > > > give any time to other programms.
> > > > >
> > > > > Programm 3:
> > > > >
> > > > > OPENW #4
> > > > > DO
> > > > >   ? TIME$
> > > > > ////  PEEKEVENT
> > > > > LOOP
> > > > >
> > > > > So, there is really no difference between ON
> > > > _MESS=WM_TIMER GOSUB Tick
> > > > > and my example. You always need a PEEKEVENT,
> > SLEEP
> > > > or ... in your programm
> > > > > to let other programms work (is the same as
> > the
> > > > bluddy PAUSE). So you can
> > > > > write a programm what will run in the
> > background
> > > > and send you a message or
> > > > > you can take it in your own programm with
> > > > SETTIMER.
> > > > > I tried the same with GB32 and the object, but
> > > > that is exactly the same
> > > > > result. In that moment, you have no SLEEP in
> > your
> > > > programm windows will have
> > > > > no multi-task anymore.
> > > > > I am sure, if your dad buy the $2000-programm
> > he
> > > > will have the same result.
> > > > >
> > > > > I like to here something about this from
> > somebody
> > > > else, I am right or
> > > > > not????????
> > > > >
> > > > > Bye, Gunnar
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi Schmidt !

Well, if you wanna print the good GFAWay, you can use:

SNIP! --- -- - 8< 

DEFINT "A-Z"         ' <-- Give LONG integer to ALL
OPENW #1             ' <-- REQUIRED for PrinterDC !
HCDC = PrinterDC()   ' <-- Set HardCopy DC to Printer
SETDC HCDC           ' <-- Set new output "screen"
STARTDOC "MyPrint"   ' <-- Name for Printer Manager
PRINT "La La Laaa!"
RBOX 50,50,300,150   ' <-- Round Box Graphics
NEW FRAME            ' <-- PRINT IT ALL NOW !
ENDDOC               ' <-- Shutdown STARTDOC above
FREEDC HCDC          ' <-- FREE up memory for new DC
CLOSEW #1            ' <-- Keep Life Tidy !  :)

>8 - -- --- SNIP!

It looks very pretty on paper !  :)

Hope This Helps !

Sincerely,
David W.

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> Hope it works well. Must print lots of GRAPHICAL
> hardcopies. Does the same 
> procedure work, too? 
> schrieb:


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List Member mick.fooks@btinternet.com wrote:

OK sri folks, as always I didn't sit on my fuze for long enough, on my next
session after posting I was doing another search and guess what I stumbled on
-- the rc$ help file--
RED RED face but thanks to those that did reply :-}

Mike F
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Mike
Welcome, Newbie!
_XX - processor registers... some you can change, others, no.
GFA's RCS generator... sorry, don't use, can't help.
The *ONLY* dumb question is the one you fail to ask.
<G>
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>List Member mick.fooks@btinternet.com wrote:
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>Hi folks, I apologise in advance for my long-winded induction to this
newsgroup,
>but I hope it will clarify why I (anticipate) post seemingly dumb questions.
>In the 1980s I used to run GFA BASIC on the Atari ST's and thoroughly enjoyed
>it. Pressure at work forced me onto PCs in the early 1990s and I bought a copy
>of GFA BASIC (PC) when it was first released, however work again forced me down
>another software route.
>Recently a new project has allowed me to delve into GFA BASIC once again, so
>I've upgraded to the latest version. Problem; my 1990s hard copy of the GFA
>Manual seems to be as much use as the MSVB6 manual when checking up on GFA
keyword
>syntax. I tried to use the tutor that is supplied with GFA BASIC but Tumbleweed
>crashes spectacularly before it even gets to an opening screen.
>I've installed Dale's GFA Help Proggy (brilliant thanks) but that only opens
>up even more wonders to me. I spent two hours trying to find what all these
>underscore (_AX _BX etc) things were - don't believe me- try doing an online
>search for the underscore, my hard copy doesn't recognise them.
>Hence my first dumb question:
>In the Editor I have a button marked rc$, activating this takes me to a window
>design sub-program, which I can muddle through. On completion I am prompted
>to save the file as an GFR, now what do I do with it, I can't merge it cos only
>LST files are allowed, I can't load it cos it's not a GFW. Seems all I can do
>is put it in the rubbish bin
>Is there a help file for this rc$ procedure.
>
>Mike Fooks
>Slowly controlling his frustration.
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Mike, welcome to the list
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> List Member mick.fooks@btinternet.com wrote:
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> OK sri folks, as always I didn't sit on my fuze for long enough, on my
next
> session after posting I was doing another search and guess what I stumbled
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> -- the rc$ help file--
> RED RED face but thanks to those that did reply :-}
>
> Mike F
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Well after beating around with some code for a-while,
I have Quick Blitz pixel plotter which is really
REALLY fast but just a smidgen slow for update entire
screen with new changes.

NICE thing about it, Russell, I dearly do use and
enjoy
your WindowLock but it's heartless when it comes to
any syntax or errors later in my code cause I gotta
close everything down, yah I can use ON ERROR GOSUB
but then it won't show me the line # that caused
problems..  If I go without re-freeing memory, my
whole computer crashes, not your fault but GFA could
be nice enough to free my memory stuff automatically
without me writing:

FOR I=1 TO 99
  IF BMP(I) THEN FREEBMP BMP(I)
NEXT I

which does make good sense, but how do I get the
error handler to work and returning the line # error
occurred at just before it runs maybe my cleanup
routine okay ?

Anyways QuickBlitz you can set RGB true 0-255 even if
your screen won't handle it, and display it correctly
from hidden page when ready to UPDATE.

Nice thing any errors like file not found, or out
of range or anything doesn't matter, no push space
was used to update hidden screen so it's all good and
safe and NO NEED to reboot or make ON ERROR routine
to clean up push space stuff.

.EXE enclosed to show the power and speed of the good
GFABasic Win16 compiler compared to interpreting it
from straight source code !

If ANYONE can show me how to make this useful somehow
hidden but don't use commands FREEDLL, FREEDC,
FREEBMP <- unless it's cleaned real quick before you
go back to main program, FREEDIB.

Now I was looking at the CREATEBITMAP command and NO-
ONE uses it anyways except for B&W pixels ??
Is there a way to do it for 256 or more colors ?

Okay I feel better !  :)

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Everything required but Borland's Resource compiler & wgen.exe, GFA-W(16)'s
compiler.

Uses Roland's minijpeg.lib to read images in a $LNKed *.res file.  It's
lightning fast!

This copy contains images of a blonde displaying her T&A, so don't bother
with it if this might offend you!  I decided against using sheep from all
over the world.  This project represents considerable work & I'm proud of
completing this version & presenting it for your use & study.

The file also contains a functional *.scr - just put it in your windows
dir if you want it to be automaticly recognized.  It has an icon in it,
so you can also put it *anywhere* & install the icon on your desktop or
in a ProgMan group.  In either case (also if you compile as *.exe), it
shuts down on mouse or keyboard activity.

http://TiGeR1.webjump.com/p1index.htm   286K

Alter the data in ver.rc (in NotePad, etc) to reflect *your* data.  rc_gen09
will create an *.rc file containing your imaged in alpha order, then append
your versinfo to it using ver.rc.

Images do NOT have to be in the working dir, but MUST ALL be together since
rc_gen09 will pack all same-selected-format images in ONE dir into the *.rc.

rc_gen09 will put *.bmp (normal) as BITMAP (standard).  *.gif go in as GIF.
*.jpg go in as JPEG, & Codec-compressed *.b_p as BIT_MAP.  *.wav go in as
WAVE.

I strongly suspect that *ANY* format file can be added this way.  I stuck
with only the formats I have a $LNKable file or source for.

Good luck & have lots of fun.  Many thanks to all who resolved problems!

------------------ Now a little German?

Alles erforderte aber Borland Mittel-Compiler & wgen.exe, GFA-W(16)'s =20
Compiler. =20
 =20
Verwendungen Roland minijpeg.lib, Bilder in einem $LNKed zu lesen *.res=
 Akte.=20
Es ist Blitz schnell! =20
 =20
Diese Kopie enth=E4lt Bilder von einem blonden Zeigen ihr T&A, so st=F6rt=
 nicht=20
damit, wenn dies Sie beleidigen k=F6nnte!  Ich entschied mich gegen das=
 Benutzen=20
Schaf von allen =FCber der Welt.  Dieses Projekt stellt betr=E4chtliche=
 Arbeit dar=20
& ich bin stolz von das Vervollst=E4ndigen dieser Version & das Pr=E4sentier=
en
davon=20
f=FCr Ihre Verwendung & Studium. =20
 =20
Die Akte enth=E4lt auch ein zweckm=E4=DFig *.scr-gerade setzen Sie es in=
 Ihre
Fenster =20
dir, wenn Sie es wollen, automaticly zu sein, der erkannt wurde.  Es hat=
 eine=20
Ikone darin, so k=F6nnen Sie es auch setzen *irgendwo* & schlie=DFen Sie die=
 Ikone=20
auf Ihrer Arbeitsfl=E4che an oder in einer ProgMan Gruppe.  In ein von=
 beiden
Fall=20
(auch, wenn Sie als sammeln, *.exe), es schlie=DFt auf Maus oder
Tastatur-Aktivit=E4t. =20
 =20
http://TiGeR1.webjump.com/p1index.htm 286K =20
 =20
=C4ndern Sie die Fakten in ver.rc (in Schreibblock, und so weiter)
widerzuspiegeln=20
*Ihr* Fakten.  rc_gen09 werden Sie schaffen ein *.rc legen das Enthalten=
 Ihres=20
imaged in Alpha-Reihenfolge ab, dann befestigen Sie Ihr versinfo dazu, der
ver.rc=20
benutzt. =20
 =20
Bilder m=FCssen im arbeitend dir nicht sein, sondern mu=DF ALLE, seien Sie
inzwischen=20
zusammen rc_gen09 werden alle gleich-ausw=E4hlen-Format-Bilder in EINEM dir=
 in=20
packen das *.rc. =20
 =20
rc_gen09 werden setzen *.bmp (normal) als BITMAP (=FCblich). *.gif gehen als=
 GIF=20
hinein. *.jpg gehen als JPEG hinein, & Codec-presste zusammen *.b_p als
BIT_MAP.=20
*.wav gehen in als WAVE. =20
 =20
Ich verd=E4chtige stark da=DF *KEINE* Format-Akte kann diesen Weg=
 hinzugef=FCgt
werden.=20
Ich sa=DF fest mit nur den Formaten habe ich eine $LNKable Akte oder Quelle=
 f=FCr. =20
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Gl=FCck & haben Sie viel Spa=DF. =20

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There are two important factors for BGET & BPUT !

BGET will allow max 65536 length
BPUT will ONLY allow max 65535 length !
Solution ?  Hook both up to 65535 .

And no that's not in the HELP file I found out
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Maaan I can't believe the compiler is so different
from the interpreter okee !

BGET & BPUT max len of 32768 in compiler !
No error shown it just trashes the array !
Keep <=32768 runs fine.

DIM Bmp|(13 * 32 * 9 * 32 * 3 * 8)
B=APage * 359424,E=B + 359423
BPUT #F,V:Bmp|(I),MIN(32768,E - I)

Try 32769 it trashes but ONLY run you run
compiled version okay !

Sincerely,
David W.

That's all I'm gonna program in it for tonite
I hear my Playstation calling me !  :)

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> Solution ?  Hook both up to 65535 .
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Hey Thomas !

Are you going or staying ?
Don't leave the door open or you'll let all the
cool air get out !  :)

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Don't know what happened to this forum it got like
completely DEAD in here and about 3 posts I sent in
never made it.  Ah well..

My prior solution albeit is a good one to avoid that
nasty push space, but why not this ?
(Which is the code I am plinking out now) :)

Instead of using a normal fat array for the screen
why not merge Russell's excellent WindowLock with
the array !  The results, I have created a script
graphic language

 Commands
 +X means ask X & Y Coordinates
 +H means ask H & V Coordinates (X&Y #2)
 +N means ask additional value
 +C means ask RGB color on end)

 c/C = Hollow/Filled Circle +XCN
 r/R = Hollow/Filled Round Box +XHCN
 b/B = Hollow/Filled Box +XHCN
   . = Dot +XC
   / = Line +XHC
 t/T = Thickness (t=normal, T=THICK!)
   M = Graphic Mode 0=SRCCOPY, 1=MERGEPAINT,
2=SRCERASE
   @ = Text +X

So I can do:
DO
  X = MOUSEX,Y = MOUSEY
  FOR I = 50 TO 1 STEP -1
    AddPCircle X,Y,I,I * 4,0,0
' >> Interpreted CMD$=CMD$+"C"+X+Y+R+G+B+Radius
  NEXT I
  Update
UNTIL MOUSEK = 2

Which will draw a glass red sphere where the cursor
is and only update the screen when it's ready to !
Further, all push space is stuffed back inside
my main array of:

FUNCTION GS(X,Y)
  RETURN GETSIZE(0,0,X,Y)
ENDFUNC
PSZ = @GS(13 * 32,9 * 32)
DIM I_Page|(PSZ)

Soo as long as my program doesn't crash inside
Update (which I always make run very well), then if
my program crashes anywhere else it don't matter cause
all the only little measly little thing I'll lose is
a normal array I DIMed I_Page|() since I only swap
to show the current screen and when I'm outta Update,
I only have that DIMed array to show !

Huzzah !  (And you may think this runs slower then
MUD off the shingles in winter, but if you compile to
true .EXE it's actually quite speedy!)

  LOCAL
NewDC=MEMDC(_DC(1)),BMPDC=CREATEBMP(_X,_Y),OldDC=SelectObject(NewDC,BMPDC),BMP
  LOCAL C$,T$=CMD$,H,V,X,Y,R,G,B
  SETDC NewDC
  GRAPHMODE R2_COPYPEN,TRANSPARENT
  DEFFILL 0
  GET 0,0,_X,_Y,BMP
  ~SetBitmapBits(BMP,PSZ,V:I_Page|(0))
  PUT 0,0,BMP
  FREEBMP BMP

Annnd in one fell swoop we stuff the contents of
array I_Page|() to the screen and free everything
up when we're all done !

The proof is in the pudding and I'm licking the
egg beaters now !  :)

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Darn it David, stop tempting us. Lets see it!(G)
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> List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Don't know what happened to this forum it got like
> completely DEAD in here and about 3 posts I sent in
> never made it.  Ah well..
>
> My prior solution albeit is a good one to avoid that
> nasty push space, but why not this ?
> (Which is the code I am plinking out now) :)
>
> Instead of using a normal fat array for the screen
> why not merge Russell's excellent WindowLock with
> the array !  The results, I have created a script
> graphic language
>
>  Commands
>  +X means ask X & Y Coordinates
>  +H means ask H & V Coordinates (X&Y #2)
>  +N means ask additional value
>  +C means ask RGB color on end)
>
>  c/C = Hollow/Filled Circle +XCN
>  r/R = Hollow/Filled Round Box +XHCN
>  b/B = Hollow/Filled Box +XHCN
>    . = Dot +XC
>    / = Line +XHC
>  t/T = Thickness (t=normal, T=THICK!)
>    M = Graphic Mode 0=SRCCOPY, 1=MERGEPAINT,
> 2=SRCERASE
>    @ = Text +X
>
> So I can do:
> DO
>   X = MOUSEX,Y = MOUSEY
>   FOR I = 50 TO 1 STEP -1
>     AddPCircle X,Y,I,I * 4,0,0
> ' >> Interpreted CMD$=CMD$+"C"+X+Y+R+G+B+Radius
>   NEXT I
>   Update
> UNTIL MOUSEK = 2
>
> Which will draw a glass red sphere where the cursor
> is and only update the screen when it's ready to !
> Further, all push space is stuffed back inside
> my main array of:
>
> FUNCTION GS(X,Y)
>   RETURN GETSIZE(0,0,X,Y)
> ENDFUNC
> PSZ = @GS(13 * 32,9 * 32)
> DIM I_Page|(PSZ)
>
> Soo as long as my program doesn't crash inside
> Update (which I always make run very well), then if
> my program crashes anywhere else it don't matter cause
> all the only little measly little thing I'll lose is
> a normal array I DIMed I_Page|() since I only swap
> to show the current screen and when I'm outta Update,
> I only have that DIMed array to show !
>
> Huzzah !  (And you may think this runs slower then
> MUD off the shingles in winter, but if you compile to
> true .EXE it's actually quite speedy!)
>
>   LOCAL
>
NewDC=MEMDC(_DC(1)),BMPDC=CREATEBMP(_X,_Y),OldDC=SelectObject(NewDC,BMPDC),B
MP
>   LOCAL C$,T$=CMD$,H,V,X,Y,R,G,B
>   SETDC NewDC
>   GRAPHMODE R2_COPYPEN,TRANSPARENT
>   DEFFILL 0
>   GET 0,0,_X,_Y,BMP
>   ~SetBitmapBits(BMP,PSZ,V:I_Page|(0))
>   PUT 0,0,BMP
>   FREEBMP BMP
>
> Annnd in one fell swoop we stuff the contents of
> array I_Page|() to the screen and free everything
> up when we're all done !
>
> The proof is in the pudding and I'm licking the
> egg beaters now !  :)
>
> Sincerely,
> David W.
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Subject: Re: [gfabasic] David's Dangling Designs
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Now Dale,
I'm going to be honest with you, this is
not a presentable package !  This I writing just for
myself to ease my paranoia on programs that eat
memory cause of push space stuff.

I'm only posting it cause you're so CURIOUS !  :)

It's prolly a mess and to any one else reading it but
its all looks in order to me !

I'll use this as the root for GameDev.
[enclosed]

Sincerely,
David W.

What happened ?  I had like 3 posts I put in here
none of them made it and every one got awful quiet ?


--- Dale Bryant <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com>
> wrote:
> Darn it David, stop tempting us. Lets see it!(G)
> Dale
> Dale Bryant


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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
PROCEDURE FindMe
  afg$ = STRING$(1024,0)
  bluf% = V:afg$
  afg% = GetModuleFileName(_INSTANCE,bluf%,1024)
  IF afg% > 0 THEN
    afg$ = ZTRIM$(afg$)
    x_path$ = MID$(afg$,1,RINSTR(afg$,"\"))
    x_len& = LEN(afg$)
    nn$ = RIGHT$(afg$,x_len& - RINSTR(afg$,"\"))
  ENDIF
RETURN

It would appear that a running *.exe can't check for it's own name, or else
it can't look at it's own verinfo.  GPF BBIIGG time!  I'm guessing that the
problem lies in querying itself for the verinfo.  The snip above is from
Joe's bbox - checking to see if it's been compiled or is in the interpretor.

Haven't reached the point of putting images in a *.dll, but suspect that I
can do what I'm trying to do much easier if I do that.  I'm modifying the
product version number to reflect the number of images involved.  Putting
the number in there is easy... reading it back into the executable so it
knows what to do when, depending on which image is involved, is RUFF!!!!

Trying to avoid an *.ini, but it may turn out to be the only way.  As
the *.rc is written, the same appl can write the ini.

I think.
<G>
TomR.

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From: David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com>
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Greets Tom:

Well I have some good news for you
(and for myself)

Finally won Wild Arms again, yayaya !
I guess it really DOES take about 3 months to play it
and all kinds good ideas for GameDev !  :)

Okay, the good news for yourself is:

Computed  0/0  in the interpreter gives an error--
in GFA compiler it gives 0 back sooooooo

FUNCTION AreWeCompiled
  LOCAL A
  TRY
    A = 0 / 0
    RETURN -1
  CATCH
  RETURN 0
ENDFUNC

Very simple returns -1 if you ran this from
compiler or it gone to return a 0 (zero) if
ran from interpreter.

And yas I ran this in interpreter and compiler
it does what I said it dood !  :)

Gotta love them interpreter/compiler differences !

Hope This Helps !

Sincerely,
David W.

--- Tom Record
<tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> PROCEDURE FindMe
>   afg$ = STRING$(1024,0)
>   bluf% = V:afg$
>   afg% = GetModuleFileName(_INSTANCE,bluf%,1024)
>   IF afg% > 0 THEN
>     afg$ = ZTRIM$(afg$)
>     x_path$ = MID$(afg$,1,RINSTR(afg$,"\"))
>     x_len& = LEN(afg$)
>     nn$ = RIGHT$(afg$,x_len& - RINSTR(afg$,"\"))
>   ENDIF
> RETURN
> 
> It would appear that a running *.exe can't check for
> it's own name, or else
> it can't look at it's own verinfo.  GPF BBIIGG time!
>  I'm guessing that the
> problem lies in querying itself for the verinfo. 
> The snip above is from
> Joe's bbox - checking to see if it's been compiled
> or is in the interpretor.
> 
> Haven't reached the point of putting images in a
> *.dll, but suspect that I
> can do what I'm trying to do much easier if I do
> that.  I'm modifying the
> product version number to reflect the number of
> images involved.  Putting
> the number in there is easy... reading it back into
> the executable so it
> knows what to do when, depending on which image is
> involved, is RUFF!!!!
> 
> Trying to avoid an *.ini, but it may turn out to be
> the only way.  As
> the *.rc is written, the same appl can write the
> ini.
> 
> I think.
> <G>
> TomR.
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List Member "John Findlay" <John.Findlay@Byte-it.net> wrote:
> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

Tom, I ran that listing (FindMe) interpreted and compiled, it works ok!

Here's another one, if you need it.

OPENW #1
PRINT @IsExe()
KEYGET i%
CLOSEW #1

FUNCTION  IsExe()
     ' Your Interpreters Path
  LOCAL zGFAPath$ = "E:\GFAWIN\GFAWIN37.EXE"
  LOCAL zName$    = SPACE$(244)

  ~GetModuleFileName(_INSTANCE, V:zName$, 240)

  zName$ = TRIM$(zName$)

  zGFAPath$ = UPPER$(zGFAPath$) ' Just in case!

  IF LEFT$(zName$, LEN(zName$) - 1) = zGFAPath$
    RETURN FALSE                                ' Interpreted
  ELSE
    RETURN TRUE                                 ' Compiled
  ENDIF

ENDFUNC

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Thanks, David.  Pretty neat, but... I was trying to get the
*.scr's name - which I know now isn't gonna happen.  Back to
a !@#$%$%$#@! *.ini, I guess.

I can read the verinfo now, but NOT in the executable, itself.
TomR.


At 10:07 PM 02/05/00 -0700, you wrote:
>List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Greets Tom:
>
>Well I have some good news for you
>(and for myself)
>
>Finally won Wild Arms again, yayaya !
>I guess it really DOES take about 3 months to play it
>and all kinds good ideas for GameDev !  :)
>
>Okay, the good news for yourself is:
>
>Computed  0/0  in the interpreter gives an error--
>in GFA compiler it gives 0 back sooooooo
>
>FUNCTION AreWeCompiled
>  LOCAL A
>  TRY
>    A = 0 / 0
>    RETURN -1
>  CATCH
>  RETURN 0
>ENDFUNC
>
>Very simple returns -1 if you ran this from
>compiler or it gone to return a 0 (zero) if
>ran from interpreter.
>
>And yas I ran this in interpreter and compiler
>it does what I said it dood !  :)
>
>Gotta love them interpreter/compiler differences !
>
>Hope This Helps !
>
>Sincerely,
>David W.
>
>--- Tom Record
><tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> List Member Tom Record
>> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> PROCEDURE FindMe
>>   afg$ = STRING$(1024,0)
>>   bluf% = V:afg$
>>   afg% = GetModuleFileName(_INSTANCE,bluf%,1024)
>>   IF afg% > 0 THEN
>>     afg$ = ZTRIM$(afg$)
>>     x_path$ = MID$(afg$,1,RINSTR(afg$,"\"))
>>     x_len& = LEN(afg$)
>>     nn$ = RIGHT$(afg$,x_len& - RINSTR(afg$,"\"))
>>   ENDIF
>> RETURN
>> 
>> It would appear that a running *.exe can't check for
>> it's own name, or else
>> it can't look at it's own verinfo.  GPF BBIIGG time!
>>  I'm guessing that the
>> problem lies in querying itself for the verinfo. 
>> The snip above is from
>> Joe's bbox - checking to see if it's been compiled
>> or is in the interpretor.
>> 
>> Haven't reached the point of putting images in a
>> *.dll, but suspect that I
>> can do what I'm trying to do much easier if I do
>> that.  I'm modifying the
>> product version number to reflect the number of
>> images involved.  Putting
>> the number in there is easy... reading it back into
>> the executable so it
>> knows what to do when, depending on which image is
>> involved, is RUFF!!!!
>> 
>> Trying to avoid an *.ini, but it may turn out to be
>> the only way.  As
>> the *.rc is written, the same appl can write the
>> ini.
>> 
>> I think.
>> <G>
>> TomR.
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Looooooooong day in court - I'm tired!
What I'm looking at is reading the verinfo entries within the
same executable.  I can make notes in that when I generate it,
but it looks like I can read only from *other* files.  The
present problem is to let the executable know how many images 
are in it W/O having to hard-code it in at compile.  This is
a need, particularly w/ screensavers, if you want various things
to happen w/ particular images _&_ to make an endless loop to
NOT run out of images.

It may be that I'm just so tired I don't see what I'm looking at
_or_ for.  I KNOW I'm tired... I just deleted the mail w/o making
a copy to keep!

Have discovered that the minijpeg.lib is pretty fast, even with
fullscreen images, but it takes about 3 seconds to load one.  It
is noticeable if you put a countdown in view where you can watch
the seconds go by.  Fullscreen... 548x470 - near enough.
TomR.

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List Member "B.M.C.S." <bmcs@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
Hi Tom,

I am not sure why it's crashing, but try this. In the interpreter you will
always get the Gfawin37.exe path, but in when compiled you will get your
application path.

' Code starts here
OPENW #1
@FindMe()
DO
  GETEVENT
UNTIL MENU(1) = 4
CLOSEW #1
'
PROCEDURE FindMe
  'afg$ = STRING$(1024,0)
  Buffer$ = SPACE$(255) + CHR$(0)
  //bluf% = V:afg$
  //afg% = GetModuleFileName(_INSTANCE,bluf%,1024)
  NrChars& = GetModuleFileName(_INSTANCE,V:Buffer$,255)
  //IF afg% > 0 THEN
  IF NrChars& > 0
    //afg$ = ZTRIM$(afg$)
    afg$ = LEFT$(Buffer$,NrChars&)
    x_path$ = MID$(afg$,1,RINSTR(afg$,"\"))
    x_len& = LEN(afg$)
    nn$ = RIGHT$(afg$,x_len& - RINSTR(afg$,"\"))
    PRINT afg$
    PRINT x_path$
    PRINT x_len&
    PRINT nn$
    PRINT
    PRINT "Press Alt-F4 To Finish"
  ENDIF
RETURN
' End of code

Hope this was what you were looking for and that it helps.

Regards,
Dave Barton
bmcs@ozemail.com.au

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Well Tom,
I tried out the GetModuleFileName command and
it sayed when you are .EXE running compiler or
.EXE running GFABasic sooo it doesn't show if
.DLL or .SCR ?  Is this what you're trying to
find out ?

Also if you want to check to see if it's running true
.EXE or sorta interpreted Demo.EXE, there is the text
GFARUN10 about byte #285 into all the not quite
.EXEs.

If the computer doesn't leave a trail of bread-crumbs
to show where it is, sometimes you have to do so
your self with a hidden .INI file sometimes..  :)

Sincerely,
David W.

--- Tom Record
<tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Thanks, David.  Pretty neat, but... I was trying to
> get the
> *.scr's name - which I know now isn't gonna happen. 
> Back to
> a !@#$%$%$#@! *.ini, I guess.
> 
> I can read the verinfo now, but NOT in the
> executable, itself.
> TomR.
> 
> 
> At 10:07 PM 02/05/00 -0700, you wrote:
> >List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >Greets Tom:
> >
> >Well I have some good news for you
> >(and for myself)
> >
> >Finally won Wild Arms again, yayaya !
> >I guess it really DOES take about 3 months to play
> it
> >and all kinds good ideas for GameDev !  :)
> >
> >Okay, the good news for yourself is:
> >
> >Computed  0/0  in the interpreter gives an error--
> >in GFA compiler it gives 0 back sooooooo
> >
> >FUNCTION AreWeCompiled
> >  LOCAL A
> >  TRY
> >    A = 0 / 0
> >    RETURN -1
> >  CATCH
> >  RETURN 0
> >ENDFUNC
> >
> >Very simple returns -1 if you ran this from
> >compiler or it gone to return a 0 (zero) if
> >ran from interpreter.
> >
> >And yas I ran this in interpreter and compiler
> >it does what I said it dood !  :)
> >
> >Gotta love them interpreter/compiler differences !
> >
> >Hope This Helps !
> >
> >Sincerely,
> >David W.
> >
> >--- Tom Record
> ><tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> >> List Member Tom Record
> >> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net>
> wrote:
> >> PROCEDURE FindMe
> >>   afg$ = STRING$(1024,0)
> >>   bluf% = V:afg$
> >>   afg% = GetModuleFileName(_INSTANCE,bluf%,1024)
> >>   IF afg% > 0 THEN
> >>     afg$ = ZTRIM$(afg$)
> >>     x_path$ = MID$(afg$,1,RINSTR(afg$,"\"))
> >>     x_len& = LEN(afg$)
> >>     nn$ = RIGHT$(afg$,x_len& - RINSTR(afg$,"\"))
> >>   ENDIF
> >> RETURN
> >> 
> >> It would appear that a running *.exe can't check
> for
> >> it's own name, or else
> >> it can't look at it's own verinfo.  GPF BBIIGG
> time!
> >>  I'm guessing that the
> >> problem lies in querying itself for the verinfo. 
> >> The snip above is from
> >> Joe's bbox - checking to see if it's been
> compiled
> >> or is in the interpretor.
> >> 
> >> Haven't reached the point of putting images in a
> >> *.dll, but suspect that I
> >> can do what I'm trying to do much easier if I do
> >> that.  I'm modifying the
> >> product version number to reflect the number of
> >> images involved.  Putting
> >> the number in there is easy... reading it back
> into
> >> the executable so it
> >> knows what to do when, depending on which image
> is
> >> involved, is RUFF!!!!
> >> 
> >> Trying to avoid an *.ini, but it may turn out to
> be
> >> the only way.  As
> >> the *.rc is written, the same appl can write the
> >> ini.
> >> 
> >> I think.
> >> <G>
> >> TomR.
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Ouch !
You're stuffing .JPGs on the tip tail end of your
.EXE ??  That's a lotta work !  You could just save
some kinna encrypted data file with it, I did that
with Treasure Hunter.  Called it a .PDF for
Pyramax Data File, was just a byte seed random
encrypted PKZIP file that opened up when I needed to
get things out of it and locked the system keyboard,
everything till it finished which was pretty darned
fast so no-one could really notice unless they were
TRYING to get in my ZIP file.  :)

Soo back to it, save off your .JPGs with some packer
like LZH which does compress .JPGs I think, and use
that to decompress them.  Unless the .JPGs are your
own handiwork, or you are just DYING to not let
anyone get a copy of your pictures (yah I've been
there !) :P  if none of the last are true then
just put them out normal maybe encrypt the headers
of .JPGs in the beginning, that's what I do with
bitmaps.

See my LowBlur Demo .BPM file to see how hard it is
to decrypt !

.BMP -> .BPM -> .BPZ
Bitmap, Encrypted, PKZIPed

.MID -> .MDI -> .MDZ
Midi, Encrypted, PKZIPed

Can that mini .JPG reader be used without resource
stuff like just to read in a it-is-on-normal
hard-drive picture ?  If so, could you please post
a copy of the .JPG reader ?  I imagine others might
like to play with it to aand may be find something
that could be useful for you cause they are writing
a different program but a close same approach.  :)

Sincerely,
David W.

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> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Looooooooong day in court - I'm tired!
> What I'm looking at is reading the verinfo entries
> within the
> same executable.  I can make notes in that when I
> generate it,
> but it looks like I can read only from *other*
> files.  The
> present problem is to let the executable know how
> many images 
> are in it W/O having to hard-code it in at compile. 
> This is
> a need, particularly w/ screensavers, if you want
> various things
> to happen w/ particular images _&_ to make an
> endless loop to
> NOT run out of images.
> 
> It may be that I'm just so tired I don't see what
> I'm looking at
> _or_ for.  I KNOW I'm tired... I just deleted the
> mail w/o making
> a copy to keep!
> 
> Have discovered that the minijpeg.lib is pretty
> fast, even with
> fullscreen images, but it takes about 3 seconds to
> load one.  It
> is noticeable if you put a countdown in view where
> you can watch
> the seconds go by.  Fullscreen... 548x470 - near
> enough.
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Greets Peter:

I THINK that Internet Explorer can play .MP3s so you
could call it to play them.  I know I've seen this
done some where you can open up the Internet
Explorer with a file of your choice, or Email or
anything you want, even a .JPG which is nice just to
show a pix but maybe not so clean as this fancy
.DLL I keep hearing about.

Just how do you open up a .JPG full screen with
Internet Explorer anyways ?

If you just need a tiny MP3 player I've got a Win98
one, 125k.

Sincerely,
David W.

--- Micha=B3_Sejfried <42810730@pro.onet.pl> wrote:
> =20
> Hi.
> Here Peter
>=20
> I've three DLL's files which can play MPEG files (I
> want to open and play *.MP3). Could you check it and
> send me example program which use these dll's. I
> send it to you in next two mails.
> I don't know what I must write in DECL and and how I
> can play it later.
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> Best Regards
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List Member Thomas Gonschor <verwaltung@vph-bensberg.de> wrote:
Hi David!

>Are you going or staying ?

I am staying! :-)

>Don't leave the door open or you'll let all the
>cool air get out !  :)

You are right. But I must check something and therefor I have to
unsubscribe and then subscribe once again - sorry to all!

Kind regards
Yours

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Well no problem there Thomas !

I guess there's one little ol' piece of Chocolate
Cake left so we saved it for ya.  :)

Well I just got the DIMs all figured out for GameDev:

$ABIG
I_Disp|(),I_DispTileUnder|(),I_DispObject|(),I_DispSprite|(),I_DispTileOver|()
$ABIG
I_DispFX|(),I_DispWdw|(),I_DispText|(),I_TileSys|(),I_TileGame|(),I_TileObj|()
$ABIG I_TileSpr|(),I_Temp|()

Is there a limit ??  If not, this will cover ALL
my needs for graphics alone all stages of development
and not much more memory is needed except for maps,
items, talismans, tokens, devices, weapons, spells,
attributes, NPCs, and character design/values/
inventory/status/specialties

PSZ = @GS(13 * 32,9 * 32)
DIM
I_Disp|(PSZ),I_DispTileUnder|(PSZ),I_DispObject|(PSZ),I_DispSprite|(PSZ)
DIM
I_DispTileOver|(PSZ),I_DispFX|(PSZ),I_DispWdw|(PSZ),I_DispText|(PSZ)
DIM I_TileSys|(PSZ),I_TileGame|(PSZ),I_TileObj|(PSZ *
8),I_TileSpr|(PSZ * 16)

8  = Objects for 4 pages per AnimStep & 4 for Negs
16 = Sprites for 4 pages UDLR, x2 for AnimStep,
     x2 for Negs

totals 117 tiles, 117 objects x Anim4 x NEGs,
117 Sprites x Anim2 x FaceUDLR x NEGs

Yah I'm gonna stick with 416x288 screen even for
developing/saving off data graphic tables
keep it all easier in my head that away !  :)

Data Tables Graphic hidden pages to pluck stuff
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    0 = System Pix
    1 = Game Tiles
 2- 9 = Objects + NEGs
10-25 = Sprites + NEGs
26-31 = Optional (not in use yet!)

Oh and I'm not gonna use a full screen display cause
that's kinna RUDE and anyways GFA will have enough
to be thinking about without full display,
screen regular lock on no adjust parallax is
13x9.  But I'll allow minimize, drag bar, all the
niceties of windows, no size change tho.

8 level screen planes (player sees):
. 0 = Display (view collect next 7 or Gredit view)
. 1 = Display Tiles Under
. 2 = Display Objects
. 3 = Display Sprites
. 4 = Display Tiles Over
. 5 = Display Special FX
. 6 = Display colored Windows
. 7 = Display Text

All can be stacked and displayed on top o' each
other so viewing as one page

I.E.: no 0, 1=parallax map, 2=objects like barrels,
doors, 3=NPCs merchants, 4=top of door frames,
5=Misty Fog or torch view if desired, 6=Text Window
7=scrolling text unaffected by prior 7 definitions !

GFA who loves ya baby !  I do !!  This freedom
of memory is Totally MAXX Excellence !  :)

Oh, and dju know you can use "." period instead of
REM or "'" apostrophe ?  It makes neater looking
code and compiles fine too !

Someone please let me know if this is not good for
GFA in some way the "." period thingie !

ALL SO, let me know please if I'm gonna run out of
memory soon cause I'm getting very chummy with
GFA now and going to rewrite Gredit to work in
all 8 screen layers and since GFA won't crash now
with NoPushPointer script then I can continue at
my own pace again.  :)

I try the MALLOC(-1) thingie but memory doesn't
show any changes how do I find how much memory I
got left when I'm doing my DIMs (which are actually
a bit brighter then DIM now) ?

Sincerely,
David W.

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> >Are you going or staying ?
> 
> I am staying! :-)

> >Don't leave the door open or you'll let all the
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> You are right. But I must check something and
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
John, thanks.
I guess I'm really making myself understood, hunh!

I'm trying to read info from the given executable's own verinfo.
For an *.scr, as example, I can enter the number of omages in
the verinfo & NOT have to hardcode it into the executable.  This
would mean that one source can be used for many different
screensavers.  There are places I could set up basic action if I
could read from it.

I guess I can put the images into a *.dll, read *that* verinfo 
before loading, etc.  I can use the whole verinfo for transitions, 
etc., that way.  No *.ini *that* way.  Interchangable *.dlls for
different images, transitions, etc.
<G>
TomR.


At 07:23 AM 03/05/00 +0100, you wrote:
>List Member "John Findlay" <John.Findlay@Byte-it.net> wrote:
>> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>
>Tom, I ran that listing (FindMe) interpreted and compiled, it works ok!
>
>Here's another one, if you need it.
>
>OPENW #1
>PRINT @IsExe()
>KEYGET i%
>CLOSEW #1
>
>FUNCTION  IsExe()
>     ' Your Interpreters Path
>  LOCAL zGFAPath$ = "E:\GFAWIN\GFAWIN37.EXE"
>  LOCAL zName$    = SPACE$(244)
>
>  ~GetModuleFileName(_INSTANCE, V:zName$, 240)
>
>  zName$ = TRIM$(zName$)
>
>  zGFAPath$ = UPPER$(zGFAPath$) ' Just in case!
>
>  IF LEFT$(zName$, LEN(zName$) - 1) = zGFAPath$
>    RETURN FALSE                                ' Interpreted
>  ELSE
>    RETURN TRUE                                 ' Compiled
>  ENDIF
>
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>
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
David
This online discussion is bearing results.  I've about decided
to go a basic *.scr module & *.dll for the images.  I can put
ALL action params in the *.dll's verinfo segment.  I can read
*that* before loading it, thereby setting behavior of the
display according to the images used.

I have to talk things out, but I NEED input.  Talking to my
daughter's dog is useless because the reaction is VERY consistant...
wag tail, nose-nudge & a lick every so often.  Encouraging & comforting, 
but really useless as feedback on a programming problem.

My thanks to all who participate in these discussions.  MANY heads are
far better than one crippled one <G>!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
<G>
TomR.



At 05:07 AM 03/05/00 -0700, you wrote:
>List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Well Tom,
>I tried out the GetModuleFileName command and
>it sayed when you are .EXE running compiler or
>.EXE running GFABasic sooo it doesn't show if
>.DLL or .SCR ?  Is this what you're trying to
>find out ?
>
>Also if you want to check to see if it's running true
>.EXE or sorta interpreted Demo.EXE, there is the text
>GFARUN10 about byte #285 into all the not quite
>.EXEs.
>
>If the computer doesn't leave a trail of bread-crumbs
>to show where it is, sometimes you have to do so
>your self with a hidden .INI file sometimes..  :)
>
>Sincerely,
>David W.
>
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><tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> List Member Tom Record
>> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> Thanks, David.  Pretty neat, but... I was trying to
>> get the
>> *.scr's name - which I know now isn't gonna happen. 
>> Back to
>> a !@#$%$%$#@! *.ini, I guess.
>> 
>> I can read the verinfo now, but NOT in the
>> executable, itself.
>> TomR.
>> 
>> 
>> At 10:07 PM 02/05/00 -0700, you wrote:
>> >List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >Greets Tom:
>> >
>> >Well I have some good news for you
>> >(and for myself)
>> >
>> >Finally won Wild Arms again, yayaya !
>> >I guess it really DOES take about 3 months to play
>> it
>> >and all kinds good ideas for GameDev !  :)
>> >
>> >Okay, the good news for yourself is:
>> >
>> >Computed  0/0  in the interpreter gives an error--
>> >in GFA compiler it gives 0 back sooooooo
>> >
>> >FUNCTION AreWeCompiled
>> >  LOCAL A
>> >  TRY
>> >    A = 0 / 0
>> >    RETURN -1
>> >  CATCH
>> >  RETURN 0
>> >ENDFUNC
>> >
>> >Very simple returns -1 if you ran this from
>> >compiler or it gone to return a 0 (zero) if
>> >ran from interpreter.
>> >
>> >And yas I ran this in interpreter and compiler
>> >it does what I said it dood !  :)
>> >
>> >Gotta love them interpreter/compiler differences !
>> >
>> >Hope This Helps !
>> >
>> >Sincerely,
>> >David W.
>> >
>> >--- Tom Record
>> ><tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> >> List Member Tom Record
>> >> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net>
>> wrote:
>> >> PROCEDURE FindMe
>> >>   afg$ = STRING$(1024,0)
>> >>   bluf% = V:afg$
>> >>   afg% = GetModuleFileName(_INSTANCE,bluf%,1024)
>> >>   IF afg% > 0 THEN
>> >>     afg$ = ZTRIM$(afg$)
>> >>     x_path$ = MID$(afg$,1,RINSTR(afg$,"\"))
>> >>     x_len& = LEN(afg$)
>> >>     nn$ = RIGHT$(afg$,x_len& - RINSTR(afg$,"\"))
>> >>   ENDIF
>> >> RETURN
>> >> 
>> >> It would appear that a running *.exe can't check
>> for
>> >> it's own name, or else
>> >> it can't look at it's own verinfo.  GPF BBIIGG
>> time!
>> >>  I'm guessing that the
>> >> problem lies in querying itself for the verinfo. 
>> >> The snip above is from
>> >> Joe's bbox - checking to see if it's been
>> compiled
>> >> or is in the interpretor.
>> >> 
>> >> Haven't reached the point of putting images in a
>> >> *.dll, but suspect that I
>> >> can do what I'm trying to do much easier if I do
>> >> that.  I'm modifying the
>> >> product version number to reflect the number of
>> >> images involved.  Putting
>> >> the number in there is easy... reading it back
>> into
>> >> the executable so it
>> >> knows what to do when, depending on which image
>> is
>> >> involved, is RUFF!!!!
>> >> 
>> >> Trying to avoid an *.ini, but it may turn out to
>> be
>> >> the only way.  As
>> >> the *.rc is written, the same appl can write the
>> >> ini.
>> >> 
>> >> I think.
>> >> <G>
>> >> TomR.
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Thanks, Dave
I *think* I know what happens... I'm trying to read from the file's
own verinfo entry.  I guess it can't be done the ways I've tried.

Being a screensaver using a $LNKed *.lib, it blows itself all to hell
if you try to run it in the interpretor!  It MUST be compiled or it
can't even find the *.lib.  I'm beginning to think a basic module for
the executable, put ALL effects, transitions, number of images, etc., 
in the *.dll's verinfo segment.  I could avoid all of this, I guess,
by learning to handle stringtables in the *.res file but I don't want
to push things too hard... I've learned quite a bit lately.  I caught
myself deleting mail last night without bothering to save any & David
had a unique routine I wanted to keep.  I need to take a vacation.

I need to go to a tropical island (I'm broke) with a gorgeous blonde
(I'm old, fat & ugly), just sip chilled wine coolers (heart meds won't
tolerate alcohol) all day & make love to that blonde (been impotent 22
years) all night.

Well hell!  A feller can daydream, can't he?
<G>
TomR.


At 05:29 PM 03/05/00 +1000, you wrote:
>List Member "B.M.C.S." <bmcs@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>Hi Tom,
>
>I am not sure why it's crashing, but try this. In the interpreter you will
>always get the Gfawin37.exe path, but in when compiled you will get your
>application path.
>
>' Code starts here
>OPENW #1
>@FindMe()
>DO
>  GETEVENT
>UNTIL MENU(1) = 4
>CLOSEW #1
>'
>PROCEDURE FindMe
>  'afg$ = STRING$(1024,0)
>  Buffer$ = SPACE$(255) + CHR$(0)
>  //bluf% = V:afg$
>  //afg% = GetModuleFileName(_INSTANCE,bluf%,1024)
>  NrChars& = GetModuleFileName(_INSTANCE,V:Buffer$,255)
>  //IF afg% > 0 THEN
>  IF NrChars& > 0
>    //afg$ = ZTRIM$(afg$)
>    afg$ = LEFT$(Buffer$,NrChars&)
>    x_path$ = MID$(afg$,1,RINSTR(afg$,"\"))
>    x_len& = LEN(afg$)
>    nn$ = RIGHT$(afg$,x_len& - RINSTR(afg$,"\"))
>    PRINT afg$
>    PRINT x_path$
>    PRINT x_len&
>    PRINT nn$
>    PRINT
>    PRINT "Press Alt-F4 To Finish"
>  ENDIF
>RETURN
>' End of code
>
>Hope this was what you were looking for and that it helps.
>
>Regards,
>Dave Barton
>bmcs@ozemail.com.au
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
David
Roland's minijpeg pkg is on Dale's site.  I don't want to send a ton of
loose images anywhere... they are in the *.scr or a *.dll.  I don't
need to get involved w/ encryption, re-compression, etc.  If I change
an image's extension, *MOST* users wouldn't know how to determine what 
the format is anyway.  Unless they have a resource compiler to play with,
there's no way in hell they have access to the images in a *.res file
anyway because it becomes a part of the executable it's in.

The only "security" consideration in my case is to NOT lose any images
between being received & displaying.  If they're in the *.scr or *.dll,
they aren't loose, *can't* be lost or misplaced.  From *your* view, the 
only access to outsiders is via a good resource compiler... meaning a good
programmer or hacker has to become interested.
<G>
TomR.



At 05:16 AM 03/05/00 -0700, you wrote:
>List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Ouch !
>You're stuffing .JPGs on the tip tail end of your
>.EXE ??  That's a lotta work !  You could just save
>some kinna encrypted data file with it, I did that
>with Treasure Hunter.  Called it a .PDF for
>Pyramax Data File, was just a byte seed random
>encrypted PKZIP file that opened up when I needed to
>get things out of it and locked the system keyboard,
>everything till it finished which was pretty darned
>fast so no-one could really notice unless they were
>TRYING to get in my ZIP file.  :)
>
>Soo back to it, save off your .JPGs with some packer
>like LZH which does compress .JPGs I think, and use
>that to decompress them.  Unless the .JPGs are your
>own handiwork, or you are just DYING to not let
>anyone get a copy of your pictures (yah I've been
>there !) :P  if none of the last are true then
>just put them out normal maybe encrypt the headers
>of .JPGs in the beginning, that's what I do with
>bitmaps.
>
>See my LowBlur Demo .BPM file to see how hard it is
>to decrypt !
>
>.BMP -> .BPM -> .BPZ
>Bitmap, Encrypted, PKZIPed
>
>.MID -> .MDI -> .MDZ
>Midi, Encrypted, PKZIPed
>
>Can that mini .JPG reader be used without resource
>stuff like just to read in a it-is-on-normal
>hard-drive picture ?  If so, could you please post
>a copy of the .JPG reader ?  I imagine others might
>like to play with it to aand may be find something
>that could be useful for you cause they are writing
>a different program but a close same approach.  :)
>
>Sincerely,
>David W.
>
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><tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> List Member Tom Record
>> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> Looooooooong day in court - I'm tired!
>> What I'm looking at is reading the verinfo entries
>> within the
>> same executable.  I can make notes in that when I
>> generate it,
>> but it looks like I can read only from *other*
>> files.  The
>> present problem is to let the executable know how
>> many images 
>> are in it W/O having to hard-code it in at compile. 
>> This is
>> a need, particularly w/ screensavers, if you want
>> various things
>> to happen w/ particular images _&_ to make an
>> endless loop to
>> NOT run out of images.
>> 
>> It may be that I'm just so tired I don't see what
>> I'm looking at
>> _or_ for.  I KNOW I'm tired... I just deleted the
>> mail w/o making
>> a copy to keep!
>> 
>> Have discovered that the minijpeg.lib is pretty
>> fast, even with
>> fullscreen images, but it takes about 3 seconds to
>> load one.  It
>> is noticeable if you put a countdown in view where
>> you can watch
>> the seconds go by.  Fullscreen... 548x470 - near
>> enough.
>> TomR.
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Tom,
Why don't you just forget the blonde and take the dog instead?

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>
> I need to go to a tropical island (I'm broke) with a gorgeous blonde
> (I'm old, fat & ugly), just sip chilled wine coolers (heart meds won't
> tolerate alcohol) all day & make love to that blonde (been impotent 22
> years) all night.
>
> Well hell!  A feller can daydream, can't he?
> <G>
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List Member "John Findlay" <John.Findlay@Byte-it.net> wrote:
> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> John, thanks.
> I guess I'm really making myself understood, hunh!
>
> I'm trying to read info from the given executable's own verinfo.
> For an *.scr, as example, I can enter the number of omages in
> the verinfo & NOT have to hardcode it into the executable.  This
> would mean that one source can be used for many different
> screensavers.  There are places I could set up basic action if I
> could read from it.

You might find it easier to store a string resource and read that. You could
store a number as a string and convert it with VAL() to get the number back.

PRINT VAL("1234")
DELAY 1
CLOSEW #1

Easy to store a string resource if you have a resource compiler.

MYSTRING$ = SPACE$(big - enough)
lpbuffer% = V:MYSTRING$
bufsize&  = LEN(MYSTRING$)

~LoadString(_INSTANCE, 3, lpbuffer%, bufsize&)

MYSTRING$ = ZTRIM$(MYSTRING$)
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Or something like that.

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List Member MISER@LCIA.COM (Micromiser, Inc) wrote:
At 08:40 AM 4/30/00 -0700, you wrote:
>List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Oh..  Well if you gonna get GRABBY on screen just
>use KILLEVENT.  :)
>
>Tom I'm asking cause I don't know, when you making a
>.DLL, how do you keep values like:
>                 /
>=== Program #1 \/_
>
>$LIBRARY Fruit
>$LNK EXE Fruit.DLL
>Apple=25
>                 /
>=== Program #2 \/_
>
>DLL #1,"Fruit.DLL"
>PRINT Apple
>FREEDLL #1
>
>It comes back
>0
>
>How do you send Apple from DLL Fruit to an other
>program ?
>
>Sincerely,
>David W.
>
Hi David,

I'm not Tom but have some advice.

I usually end my DLL routines with something like:

  R$=STR$(A&)+","+B$+","+STR$(A)+chr$(0)
  retval v:R#

That's because you can stick anything in a string. Later if you want to
return more parameters, it's easy to add it to the return string. Microsoft
calls this a "structure" (not a string) and uses the technique often for
both sending and returning parameters.

Then in the main program, I call the routine and read R$ with

  A%=^DLLROUTINE(parameters)
  R$=CHAR{A%}

If you don't like that, there's always the Atom table which works great too.
I've an example of that somewhere...

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List Member MISER@LCIA.COM (Micromiser, Inc) wrote:
At 08:58 AM 4/30/00 -0700, you wrote:
>List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Greets Tom:
>
>If you just wanna clear the screen you gotta get
>pushy with Windows.  :)
>
>COLOR 0
>KILLEVENT
>FOR I=0 TO _Y \ 60
>  PBOX 0,0,_X,_Y
>  PEEKEVENT
>NEXT I
>

Here's another one, which I use everytime I open a Window, or at any place
with a timing problem for screen draws:

...
OPENW #1,0,0,SCRW&,SCRH&
GOSUB CLRPAINT
RGBCOLOR 0
PBOX 0,0,_X,_Y
...

PROCEDURE CLRPAINT
  LOCAL T%
  T%=GetTickCount()
  DO
    PEEKEVENT
  LOOP UNTIL MENU(11)=WM_PAINT OR MENU(11)=WM_QUIT OR GetTickCount()-T%>250
RETURN


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List Member MISER@LCIA.COM (Micromiser, Inc) wrote:
At 05:29 PM 5/3/00 +1000, you wrote:
>List Member "B.M.C.S." <bmcs@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>Hi Tom,
>
>I am not sure why it's crashing, but try this. In the interpreter you will
>always get the Gfawin37.exe path, but in when compiled you will get your
>application path.
>
>' Code starts here
>OPENW #1
>@FindMe()
>DO
>  GETEVENT
>UNTIL MENU(1) = 4
>CLOSEW #1
>'
>PROCEDURE FindMe
>  'afg$ = STRING$(1024,0)
>  Buffer$ = SPACE$(255) + CHR$(0)
>  //bluf% = V:afg$
>  //afg% = GetModuleFileName(_INSTANCE,bluf%,1024)
>  NrChars& = GetModuleFileName(_INSTANCE,V:Buffer$,255)
>  //IF afg% > 0 THEN
>  IF NrChars& > 0
>    //afg$ = ZTRIM$(afg$)
>    afg$ = LEFT$(Buffer$,NrChars&)
>    x_path$ = MID$(afg$,1,RINSTR(afg$,"\"))
>    x_len& = LEN(afg$)
>    nn$ = RIGHT$(afg$,x_len& - RINSTR(afg$,"\"))
>    PRINT afg$
>    PRINT x_path$
>    PRINT x_len&
>    PRINT nn$
>    PRINT
>    PRINT "Press Alt-F4 To Finish"
>  ENDIF
>RETURN
>' End of code

Another method that works for me:

A$="GFAWIN37.EXE"+CHR$(0)
EXE|=0
IF GetModuleHandle(V:A$)<>0 THEN EXE|=1 'compiled version

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Excellent!  Just the opposite of what I needed, but very useful, regardless.
I was having trouble STOPPING _MESS from hitting at inopportune times.
That's been fixed, now.
<G>
TomR.


At 03:15 PM 03/05/00 -0400, you wrote:
>List Member MISER@LCIA.COM (Micromiser, Inc) wrote:
>At 08:58 AM 4/30/00 -0700, you wrote:
>>List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>Greets Tom:
>>
>>If you just wanna clear the screen you gotta get
>>pushy with Windows.  :)
>>
>>COLOR 0
>>KILLEVENT
>>FOR I=0 TO _Y \ 60
>>  PBOX 0,0,_X,_Y
>>  PEEKEVENT
>>NEXT I
>>
>
>Here's another one, which I use everytime I open a Window, or at any place
>with a timing problem for screen draws:
>
>...
>OPENW #1,0,0,SCRW&,SCRH&
>GOSUB CLRPAINT
>RGBCOLOR 0
>PBOX 0,0,_X,_Y
>...
>
>PROCEDURE CLRPAINT
>  LOCAL T%
>  T%=GetTickCount()
>  DO
>    PEEKEVENT
>  LOOP UNTIL MENU(11)=WM_PAINT OR MENU(11)=WM_QUIT OR GetTickCount()-T%>250
>RETURN
>
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Atoms & atom tables have been nagging at my curiosity bone a long time!
Steve... PLEASE find that routine & post - I'mm anxious to understand
just what they mean & do.
<G>
TomR.



At 03:06 PM 03/05/00 -0400, you wrote:
>List Member MISER@LCIA.COM (Micromiser, Inc) wrote:
>At 08:40 AM 4/30/00 -0700, you wrote:
>>List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>Oh..  Well if you gonna get GRABBY on screen just
>>use KILLEVENT.  :)
>>
>>Tom I'm asking cause I don't know, when you making a
>>.DLL, how do you keep values like:
>>                 /
>>=== Program #1 \/_
>>
>>$LIBRARY Fruit
>>$LNK EXE Fruit.DLL
>>Apple=25
>>                 /
>>=== Program #2 \/_
>>
>>DLL #1,"Fruit.DLL"
>>PRINT Apple
>>FREEDLL #1
>>
>>It comes back
>>0
>>
>>How do you send Apple from DLL Fruit to an other
>>program ?
>>
>>Sincerely,
>>David W.
>>
>Hi David,
>
>I'm not Tom but have some advice.
>
>I usually end my DLL routines with something like:
>
>  R$=STR$(A&)+","+B$+","+STR$(A)+chr$(0)
>  retval v:R#
>
>That's because you can stick anything in a string. Later if you want to
>return more parameters, it's easy to add it to the return string. Microsoft
>calls this a "structure" (not a string) and uses the technique often for
>both sending and returning parameters.
>
>Then in the main program, I call the routine and read R$ with
>
>  A%=^DLLROUTINE(parameters)
>  R$=CHAR{A%}
>
>If you don't like that, there's always the Atom table which works great too.
>I've an example of that somewhere...
>
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>
>  
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
John
I have both, Borland & MS... as usual, you make it much simpler that either
one does.  Thank you!

One last impediment, & I *think* I can cover it.  How to select the *.dll,
therefore the image set & params.  In the beginning of the display, it is
NOT reactive to keyboard & mouse activity, so I can toss up a dialog to
allow choice of *.dlls.  It only requires that there be some special char
in the *.dll names to search for - something nobody else is likely to use.
A pound sign, "#" isn't seen very often & if it's used as the first char,
could leave 7 chars for the name, making it *fairly* reasonable to use.

I'm checking w/ David about using *.ttf fonts in his char8 routine.  That
would make an excellent display/choice dialog for this.  I still want to
carry the *.ttf because I want to use some I doubt I'll find on a user's
computer.  Even w/o David's goodie, I *THINK* I can figure how to put &
use a thumbnail into each *.dll.  Find the *.dlls, read the thumb & name,
display these in a selection dialog.

Sheesh!  There's damned little _SIMPLE_ about a *simple* *.scr!
<G>
TomR.



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>List Member "John Findlay" <John.Findlay@Byte-it.net> wrote:
>> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> John, thanks.
>> I guess I'm really making myself understood, hunh!
>>
>> I'm trying to read info from the given executable's own verinfo.
>> For an *.scr, as example, I can enter the number of omages in
>> the verinfo & NOT have to hardcode it into the executable.  This
>> would mean that one source can be used for many different
>> screensavers.  There are places I could set up basic action if I
>> could read from it.
>
>You might find it easier to store a string resource and read that. You could
>store a number as a string and convert it with VAL() to get the number back.
>
>PRINT VAL("1234")
>DELAY 1
>CLOSEW #1
>
>Easy to store a string resource if you have a resource compiler.
>
>MYSTRING$ = SPACE$(big - enough)
>lpbuffer% = V:MYSTRING$
>bufsize&  = LEN(MYSTRING$)
>
>~LoadString(_INSTANCE, 3, lpbuffer%, bufsize&)
>
>MYSTRING$ = ZTRIM$(MYSTRING$)
>number&   = VAL(MYSTRING$)
>
>
>Or something like that.
>
>Regards,
>
>John
>
>
>
>
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List Member MISER@LCIA.COM (Micromiser, Inc) wrote:
At 10:56 AM 5/3/00 -0700, you wrote:
>List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
>Tom,
>Why don't you just forget the blonde and take the dog instead?

And teach him to play chess.

Like my dog. But he's not so smart. I beat him 2 out of 3.

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>
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>>
>> I need to go to a tropical island (I'm broke) with a gorgeous blonde
>> (I'm old, fat & ugly), just sip chilled wine coolers (heart meds won't
>> tolerate alcohol) all day & make love to that blonde (been impotent 22
>> years) all night.
>>
>> Well hell!  A feller can daydream, can't he?
>> <G>
>> TomR.
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Ok... can't leave it alone any longer <G>.
Saydee is a gorgeous little blonde (Ha!, throw away the blonde, hell!)
Pomeranian, whose major interests are: "What the hell are you eating
& why haven't you offered me any?", "Where are those butterscotch
candies hidden?  You know I like'em & the cat wants the gold wrappers!",
"You're supposed to love on me & cuddle me all of the time!", & pestering
hell out of the cat, who has no front claws to retaliate with.  Her last
major interest is "Leave my little stuffed skunk alone!  I killed the
squeeker just to prove I could!  I'll take your damned arm off if you
reach for the skunk again!".
<G>
TomR.


At 03:53 PM 03/05/00 -0400, you wrote:
>List Member MISER@LCIA.COM (Micromiser, Inc) wrote:
>At 10:56 AM 5/3/00 -0700, you wrote:
>>List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
>>Tom,
>>Why don't you just forget the blonde and take the dog instead?
>
>And teach him to play chess.
>
>Like my dog. But he's not so smart. I beat him 2 out of 3.
>
>-----
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>
>>
>>Dale Bryant
>>http://gfawhelp.com
>>http://gfawhelp.gfa.net
>>adbryant@msn.com
>>adbryant@gfa.net
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>>From: "Tom Record" <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net>
>>To: <gfabasic@gfa.net>
>>Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2000 10:47 AM
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>>
>>
>>.
>>>
>>> I need to go to a tropical island (I'm broke) with a gorgeous blonde
>>> (I'm old, fat & ugly), just sip chilled wine coolers (heart meds won't
>>> tolerate alcohol) all day & make love to that blonde (been impotent 22
>>> years) all night.
>>>
>>> Well hell!  A feller can daydream, can't he?
>>> <G>
>>> TomR.
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Huum..  You could do what I'm doing,
instead of fighting all that library stuff or DLL
stuff or .RES, just make your own programming
language and environment with the language, JUST
enough so you have something you like and can use
for writing the kindsa programs you like.  :)

Sincerely,
David W.

Is there an easy way to drag a window inside code
without having to manually put a real dragbar on it ?
I've got one that works sorta but it's a little
sloppy.  :/

Mine uses GETDC(_DC(0)) and BOX with
R2_XORPEN and BOX M_SX-X2,M_SY-Y2,+415,+288

Isn't there like a command to drag a virtual box
around the screen especially one that outside the
window you're doodling.

--- Tom Record
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> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Thanks, Dave
> I *think* I know what happens... I'm trying to read
> from the file's
> own verinfo entry.  I guess it can't be done the
> ways I've tried.
> 
> Being a screensaver using a $LNKed *.lib, it blows
> itself all to hell
> if you try to run it in the interpretor!  It MUST be
> compiled or it
> can't even find the *.lib.  I'm beginning to think a
> basic module for
> the executable, put ALL effects, transitions, number
> of images, etc., 
> in the *.dll's verinfo segment.  I could avoid all
> of this, I guess,
> by learning to handle stringtables in the *.res file
> but I don't want
> to push things too hard... I've learned quite a bit
> lately.  I caught
> myself deleting mail last night without bothering to
> save any & David
> had a unique routine I wanted to keep.  I need to
> take a vacation.
> 
> I need to go to a tropical island (I'm broke) with a
> gorgeous blonde
> (I'm old, fat & ugly), just sip chilled wine coolers
> (heart meds won't
> tolerate alcohol) all day & make love to that blonde
> (been impotent 22
> years) all night.
> 
> Well hell!  A feller can daydream, can't he?
> <G>
> TomR.
> 
> 
> At 05:29 PM 03/05/00 +1000, you wrote:
> >List Member "B.M.C.S." <bmcs@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
> >Hi Tom,
> >
> >I am not sure why it's crashing, but try this. In
> the interpreter you will
> >always get the Gfawin37.exe path, but in when
> compiled you will get your
> >application path.
> >
> >' Code starts here
> >OPENW #1
> >@FindMe()
> >DO
> >  GETEVENT
> >UNTIL MENU(1) = 4
> >CLOSEW #1
> >'
> >PROCEDURE FindMe
> >  'afg$ = STRING$(1024,0)
> >  Buffer$ = SPACE$(255) + CHR$(0)
> >  //bluf% = V:afg$
> >  //afg% = GetModuleFileName(_INSTANCE,bluf%,1024)
> >  NrChars& =
> GetModuleFileName(_INSTANCE,V:Buffer$,255)
> >  //IF afg% > 0 THEN
> >  IF NrChars& > 0
> >    //afg$ = ZTRIM$(afg$)
> >    afg$ = LEFT$(Buffer$,NrChars&)
> >    x_path$ = MID$(afg$,1,RINSTR(afg$,"\"))
> >    x_len& = LEN(afg$)
> >    nn$ = RIGHT$(afg$,x_len& - RINSTR(afg$,"\"))
> >    PRINT afg$
> >    PRINT x_path$
> >    PRINT x_len&
> >    PRINT nn$
> >    PRINT
> >    PRINT "Press Alt-F4 To Finish"
> >  ENDIF
> >RETURN
> >' End of code
> >
> >Hope this was what you were looking for and that it
> helps.
> >
> >Regards,
> >Dave Barton
> >bmcs@ozemail.com.au
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Huum ??  Oh kay !
Gimme a copy when you're done since I'm helping okay !
:)

Thanks !

Sincerely,
David W.

Aand you're not crippled.  Just Source-Code
Challenged.  (Smile)

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> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> David
> This online discussion is bearing results.  I've
> about decided
> to go a basic *.scr module & *.dll for the images. 
> I can put
> ALL action params in the *.dll's verinfo segment.  I
> can read
> *that* before loading it, thereby setting behavior
> of the
> display according to the images used.
> 
> I have to talk things out, but I NEED input. 
> Talking to my
> daughter's dog is useless because the reaction is
> VERY consistant...
> wag tail, nose-nudge & a lick every so often. 
> Encouraging & comforting, 
> but really useless as feedback on a programming
> problem.
> 
> My thanks to all who participate in these
> discussions.  MANY heads are
> far better than one crippled one <G>!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> <G>
> TomR.
> 
> 
> 
> At 05:07 AM 03/05/00 -0700, you wrote:
> >List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >Well Tom,
> >I tried out the GetModuleFileName command and
> >it sayed when you are .EXE running compiler or
> >.EXE running GFABasic sooo it doesn't show if
> >.DLL or .SCR ?  Is this what you're trying to
> >find out ?
> >
> >Also if you want to check to see if it's running
> true
> >.EXE or sorta interpreted Demo.EXE, there is the
> text
> >GFARUN10 about byte #285 into all the not quite
> >.EXEs.
> >
> >If the computer doesn't leave a trail of
> bread-crumbs
> >to show where it is, sometimes you have to do so
> >your self with a hidden .INI file sometimes..  :)
> >
> >Sincerely,
> >David W.
> >
> >--- Tom Record
> ><tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> >> List Member Tom Record
> >> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net>
> wrote:
> >> Thanks, David.  Pretty neat, but... I was trying
> to
> >> get the
> >> *.scr's name - which I know now isn't gonna
> happen. 
> >> Back to
> >> a !@#$%$%$#@! *.ini, I guess.
> >> 
> >> I can read the verinfo now, but NOT in the
> >> executable, itself.
> >> TomR.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> At 10:07 PM 02/05/00 -0700, you wrote:
> >> >List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> >> >Greets Tom:
> >> >
> >> >Well I have some good news for you
> >> >(and for myself)
> >> >
> >> >Finally won Wild Arms again, yayaya !
> >> >I guess it really DOES take about 3 months to
> play
> >> it
> >> >and all kinds good ideas for GameDev !  :)
> >> >
> >> >Okay, the good news for yourself is:
> >> >
> >> >Computed  0/0  in the interpreter gives an
> error--
> >> >in GFA compiler it gives 0 back sooooooo
> >> >
> >> >FUNCTION AreWeCompiled
> >> >  LOCAL A
> >> >  TRY
> >> >    A = 0 / 0
> >> >    RETURN -1
> >> >  CATCH
> >> >  RETURN 0
> >> >ENDFUNC
> >> >
> >> >Very simple returns -1 if you ran this from
> >> >compiler or it gone to return a 0 (zero) if
> >> >ran from interpreter.
> >> >
> >> >And yas I ran this in interpreter and compiler
> >> >it does what I said it dood !  :)
> >> >
> >> >Gotta love them interpreter/compiler differences
> !
> >> >
> >> >Hope This Helps !
> >> >
> >> >Sincerely,
> >> >David W.
> >> >
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> >> ><tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net>
> wrote:
> >> >> List Member Tom Record
> >> >> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net>
> >> wrote:
> >> >> PROCEDURE FindMe
> >> >>   afg$ = STRING$(1024,0)
> >> >>   bluf% = V:afg$
> >> >>   afg% =
> GetModuleFileName(_INSTANCE,bluf%,1024)
> >> >>   IF afg% > 0 THEN
> >> >>     afg$ = ZTRIM$(afg$)
> >> >>     x_path$ = MID$(afg$,1,RINSTR(afg$,"\"))
> >> >>     x_len& = LEN(afg$)
> >> >>     nn$ = RIGHT$(afg$,x_len& -
> RINSTR(afg$,"\"))
> >> >>   ENDIF
> >> >> RETURN
> >> >> 
> >> >> It would appear that a running *.exe can't
> check
> >> for
> >> >> it's own name, or else
> >> >> it can't look at it's own verinfo.  GPF BBIIGG
> >> time!
> >> >>  I'm guessing that the
> >> >> problem lies in querying itself for the
> verinfo. 
> >> >> The snip above is from
> >> >> Joe's bbox - checking to see if it's been
> >> compiled
> >> >> or is in the interpretor.
> >> >> 
> >> >> Haven't reached the point of putting images in
> a
> >> >> *.dll, but suspect that I
> >> >> can do what I'm trying to do much easier if I
> do
> >> >> that.  I'm modifying the
> >> >> product version number to reflect the number
> of
> >> >> images involved.  Putting
> >> >> the number in there is easy... reading it back
> >> into
> >> >> the executable so it
> >> >> knows what to do when, depending on which
> image
> >> is
> >> >> involved, is RUFF!!!!
> >> >> 
> >> >> Trying to avoid an *.ini, but it may turn out
> to
> >> be
> >> >> the only way.  As
> >> >> the *.rc is written, the same appl can write
> the
> >> >> ini.
> >> >> 
> >> >> I think.
> >> >> <G>
> >> >> TomR.
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Ahhm..  I dunno.  I really can't learn stuff unless
it's running first and I have an example to go by.
GFA is nice like QBasic and gives a working example
for each command so I learning that way !  :)

The .DLL for JPG and MP3 I don't have examples for
tho so I'm not learning them too quick ..  :/

Sincerely,
David W.

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> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> David
> Roland's minijpeg pkg is on Dale's site.  I don't
> want to send a ton of
> loose images anywhere... they are in the *.scr or a
> *.dll.  I don't
> need to get involved w/ encryption, re-compression,
> etc.  If I change
> an image's extension, *MOST* users wouldn't know how
> to determine what 
> the format is anyway.  Unless they have a resource
> compiler to play with,
> there's no way in hell they have access to the
> images in a *.res file
> anyway because it becomes a part of the executable
> it's in.
> 
> The only "security" consideration in my case is to
> NOT lose any images
> between being received & displaying.  If they're in
> the *.scr or *.dll,
> they aren't loose, *can't* be lost or misplaced. 
> From *your* view, the 
> only access to outsiders is via a good resource
> compiler... meaning a good
> programmer or hacker has to become interested.
> <G>
> TomR.
> 
> 
> 
> At 05:16 AM 03/05/00 -0700, you wrote:
> >List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >Ouch !
> >You're stuffing .JPGs on the tip tail end of your
> >.EXE ??  That's a lotta work !  You could just save
> >some kinna encrypted data file with it, I did that
> >with Treasure Hunter.  Called it a .PDF for
> >Pyramax Data File, was just a byte seed random
> >encrypted PKZIP file that opened up when I needed
> to
> >get things out of it and locked the system
> keyboard,
> >everything till it finished which was pretty darned
> >fast so no-one could really notice unless they were
> >TRYING to get in my ZIP file.  :)
> >
> >Soo back to it, save off your .JPGs with some
> packer
> >like LZH which does compress .JPGs I think, and use
> >that to decompress them.  Unless the .JPGs are your
> >own handiwork, or you are just DYING to not let
> >anyone get a copy of your pictures (yah I've been
> >there !) :P  if none of the last are true then
> >just put them out normal maybe encrypt the headers
> >of .JPGs in the beginning, that's what I do with
> >bitmaps.
> >
> >See my LowBlur Demo .BPM file to see how hard it is
> >to decrypt !
> >
> >.BMP -> .BPM -> .BPZ
> >Bitmap, Encrypted, PKZIPed
> >
> >.MID -> .MDI -> .MDZ
> >Midi, Encrypted, PKZIPed
> >
> >Can that mini .JPG reader be used without resource
> >stuff like just to read in a it-is-on-normal
> >hard-drive picture ?  If so, could you please post
> >a copy of the .JPG reader ?  I imagine others might
> >like to play with it to aand may be find something
> >that could be useful for you cause they are writing
> >a different program but a close same approach.  :)
> >
> >Sincerely,
> >David W.
> >
> >--- Tom Record
> ><tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> >> List Member Tom Record
> >> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net>
> wrote:
> >> Looooooooong day in court - I'm tired!
> >> What I'm looking at is reading the verinfo
> entries
> >> within the
> >> same executable.  I can make notes in that when I
> >> generate it,
> >> but it looks like I can read only from *other*
> >> files.  The
> >> present problem is to let the executable know how
> >> many images 
> >> are in it W/O having to hard-code it in at
> compile. 
> >> This is
> >> a need, particularly w/ screensavers, if you want
> >> various things
> >> to happen w/ particular images _&_ to make an
> >> endless loop to
> >> NOT run out of images.
> >> 
> >> It may be that I'm just so tired I don't see what
> >> I'm looking at
> >> _or_ for.  I KNOW I'm tired... I just deleted the
> >> mail w/o making
> >> a copy to keep!
> >> 
> >> Have discovered that the minijpeg.lib is pretty
> >> fast, even with
> >> fullscreen images, but it takes about 3 seconds
> to
> >> load one.  It
> >> is noticeable if you put a countdown in view
> where
> >> you can watch
> >> the seconds go by.  Fullscreen... 548x470 - near
> >> enough.
> >> TomR.
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
D A L E !!

(Look of EXTREME S/H/O/C/K !)  :*

Naughty naughty naughty go stand in THE Corner until
you can Behave !  :)

Sincerely,
David W.

--- Dale Bryant <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
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> Tom,
> Why don't you just forget the blonde and take the
> dog instead?
> 
> Dale Bryant
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> http://gfawhelp.gfa.net
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> adbryant@gfa.net
> ----- Original Message -----
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> 
> 
> .
> >
> > I need to go to a tropical island (I'm broke) with
> a gorgeous blonde
> > (I'm old, fat & ugly), just sip chilled wine
> coolers (heart meds won't
> > tolerate alcohol) all day & make love to that
> blonde (been impotent 22
> > years) all night.
> >
> > Well hell!  A feller can daydream, can't he?
> > <G>
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
--- "Micromiser, Inc" <MISER@LCIA.COM> wrote:
> List Member MISER@LCIA.COM (Micromiser, Inc) wrote:
> At 08:40 AM 4/30/00 -0700, you wrote:
> >List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >Oh..  Well if you gonna get GRABBY on screen just
> >use KILLEVENT.  :)
> >
> >Tom I'm asking cause I don't know, when you making
> a
> >.DLL, how do you keep values like:
> >                 /
> >=== Program #1 \/_
> >
> >$LIBRARY Fruit
> >$LNK EXE Fruit.DLL
> >Apple=25
> >                 /
> >=== Program #2 \/_
> >
> >DLL #1,"Fruit.DLL"
> >PRINT Apple
> >FREEDLL #1
> >
> >It comes back
> >0
> >
> >How do you send Apple from DLL Fruit to an other
> >program ?
> >
> >Sincerely,
> >David W.
> >
> Hi David,
> 
> I'm not Tom but have some advice.
> 
> I usually end my DLL routines with something like:
> 
>   R$=STR$(A&)+","+B$+","+STR$(A)+chr$(0)
>   retval v:R#
> 
> That's because you can stick anything in a string.
> Later if you want to
> return more parameters, it's easy to add it to the
> return string. Microsoft
> calls this a "structure" (not a string) and uses the
> technique often for
> both sending and returning parameters.

Ohh..  I'm doing that already but I got AWAY too many
global variables I need returned back.  Anyways, DLLs
don't like me cause I'm having trouble with them,
and the new technique of NoPushPtr for GameDev seems
to work very nicely !

Aaaaaand the only OTHER reason I was gonna make a DLL
was so other programming people (that's you!) don't
have to go squirreling around the DCs, and push stuff.
I now gotta find out that you have to use CLOSE DLL
for ANY DLL !!

It's just not fair !  Soo what I have now works and
can crash anywheres all memory stays intact neato !
and doesn't do DLL or SETBMP freeDC, ALLOC, 
CreateCompatibleBitMap, CreateMeta, none of that stuff
cause GFA thinking it wants US to clean up after it !
I don't do that !  I test runs my programs every
minute
to see how they working and I not the time for
rebooting my computer every 7th run cause of errors
in push/pull stuff.

Russell your very good and most excellent LockWindow
I am =DEFINITELY= using but I use it ONLY in UPDATE
and no-where else so when it exits Update I can crash
anywhere and no memory pointer stuff is lost ever.

I'd make my stuff a DLL for others to play with but
find you gotta use FREEDLL to close it and that's just
plain silly !!  :/

+ Create variables on the fly
+ Allocate any memory computer auto-recovers it
  even in errors
+ Infinite memory, uses virtual hard-drive space GIGs
  if need be for variable stuff

GFA does some of this but not all so I gotta make
up for it.

Sincerely,
David W.

("TestPlay" is my Middle Name)

> 
> Then in the main program, I call the routine and
> read R$ with
> 
>   A%=^DLLROUTINE(parameters)
>   R$=CHAR{A%}
> 
> If you don't like that, there's always the Atom
> table which works great too.
> I've an example of that somewhere...
> 
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> Here's another one, which I use everytime I open a
> Window, or at any place
> with a timing problem for screen draws:
> 
> ...
> OPENW #1,0,0,SCRW&,SCRH&
> GOSUB CLRPAINT
> RGBCOLOR 0
> PBOX 0,0,_X,_Y
> ...
> 
> PROCEDURE CLRPAINT
>   LOCAL T%
>   T%=GetTickCount()
>   DO
>     PEEKEVENT
>   LOOP UNTIL MENU(11)=WM_PAINT OR MENU(11)=WM_QUIT
> OR GetTickCount()-T%>250
> RETURN

Huum !!  This looks good is GetTickCount the same
as TIMER ?  Brought up help on it looks sorta like
TIMER.  WM_Paint I know reading up on WM_Quit sorta
only called when you exit program ?  Maybe you don't
need to update screen if you're going Goodbye ?  :)
oKAY NOT SEEING menu(11) I see MENU(1)=21 is this the
same thing ?

Variation for this could be:

PROCEDURE Clr
  TT=TIMER
  WHILE TIMER-TT<250 OR TIMER<TT
    PEEKEVENT
    IF MENU(1)=21 OR TIMER<TT THEN TT=TIMER
  WEND
RETURN

Sooo only until we got 1/2 sec of peace and quiet
does it continue on and resets timer if window keeps
getting all outta whack or if we flip midnight switch

Don't forget that midnight switch folks especially
you Tom since you're making a screen-saver thingie I
think..  My original Kaleidoscope in QBasic every
one at all jobs I been at liked and I didn't find out
till months later it HUNG right at midnight cause I
wasn't checking the timer to be LESS then the value
which is just simply flipped over to midnite !

What does MENU(11)=WM_PAINT do
Is it like MENU(1)=21 ?

Hope This Helps !

Sincerely,
David W.
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--- "Micromiser, Inc" <MISER@LCIA.COM> wrote:
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> At 05:29 PM 5/3/00 +1000, you wrote:
> >List Member "B.M.C.S." <bmcs@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
> >Hi Tom,
> >
> >I am not sure why it's crashing, but try this. In
> the interpreter you will
> >always get the Gfawin37.exe path, but in when
> compiled you will get your
> >application path.
> >
> >' Code starts here
> >OPENW #1
> >@FindMe()
> >DO
> >  GETEVENT
> >UNTIL MENU(1) = 4
> >CLOSEW #1
> >'
> >PROCEDURE FindMe
> >  'afg$ = STRING$(1024,0)
> >  Buffer$ = SPACE$(255) + CHR$(0)
> >  //bluf% = V:afg$
> >  //afg% = GetModuleFileName(_INSTANCE,bluf%,1024)
> >  NrChars& =
> GetModuleFileName(_INSTANCE,V:Buffer$,255)
> >  //IF afg% > 0 THEN
> >  IF NrChars& > 0
> >    //afg$ = ZTRIM$(afg$)
> >    afg$ = LEFT$(Buffer$,NrChars&)
> >    x_path$ = MID$(afg$,1,RINSTR(afg$,"\"))
> >    x_len& = LEN(afg$)
> >    nn$ = RIGHT$(afg$,x_len& - RINSTR(afg$,"\"))
> >    PRINT afg$
> >    PRINT x_path$
> >    PRINT x_len&
> >    PRINT nn$
> >    PRINT
> >    PRINT "Press Alt-F4 To Finish"
> >  ENDIF
> >RETURN
> >' End of code
> 
> Another method that works for me:
> 
> A$="GFAWIN37.EXE"+CHR$(0)
> EXE|=0
> IF GetModuleHandle(V:A$)<>0 THEN EXE|=1 'compiled
> version
> 
> -----
> Steve Thornton

That's a lotta work guys I think my Divide / 0
thingie is easier to follow right ??  :)

Since I'm writing code that operates same ways for
compiler/interpreter I really don't need it but
knowing n/0 is there save it for later.

Sposers I might need it later.

And not everyone has GFAWIN37.EXE right ??
mine is GFW_DEMO.EXE v4.38.

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hooeeee !!  And =I'M= the one taking meds !
I never could get along with dogs they look at me
and say G R A V Y T R A I N ..  :)

Guess I sniff too much like cats which is not too
surprising with the crowd I hang out with.

Cats, now that's different !  Rose has got 19 !
8 outdoor and 11 indoors she calls every day and
says Hi Ho and I say what I've been doing in GFA
and lor not even a MINUTE minute passes and she's
a yelling at the cats on the phone:

"What the ! are you doing !
"Get down from there !
"Where's your sandbox !
"NOT ON MY CARPET !!
"I'm gonna spank your butt !
"I'm gonna get my water gun after you !

Yeaffers she likes cats maybe TOO well same as me !
:)

Sincerely,
David W.

Lose the Butterscotch Discs I'm holding out for the
Brach's Cinnamon Discs are !

--- Tom Record
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> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Ok... can't leave it alone any longer <G>.
> Saydee is a gorgeous little blonde (Ha!, throw away
> the blonde, hell!)
> Pomeranian, whose major interests are: "What the
> hell are you eating
> & why haven't you offered me any?", "Where are those
> butterscotch
> candies hidden?  You know I like'em & the cat wants
> the gold wrappers!",
> "You're supposed to love on me & cuddle me all of
> the time!", & pestering
> hell out of the cat, who has no front claws to
> retaliate with.  Her last
> major interest is "Leave my little stuffed skunk
> alone!  I killed the
> squeeker just to prove I could!  I'll take your
> damned arm off if you
> reach for the skunk again!".
> <G>
> TomR.
> 
> 
> At 03:53 PM 03/05/00 -0400, you wrote:
> >List Member MISER@LCIA.COM (Micromiser, Inc) wrote:
> >At 10:56 AM 5/3/00 -0700, you wrote:
> >>List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com>
> wrote:
> >>Tom,
> >>Why don't you just forget the blonde and take the
> dog instead?
> >
> >And teach him to play chess.
> >
> >Like my dog. But he's not so smart. I beat him 2
> out of 3.
> >
> >-----
> >Steve Thornton
> >
> >>
> >>Dale Bryant
> >>http://gfawhelp.com
> >>http://gfawhelp.gfa.net
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> >>adbryant@gfa.net
> >>----- Original Message -----
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> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net>
> >>To: <gfabasic@gfa.net>
> >>Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2000 10:47 AM
> >>Subject: RE: [gfabasic] in over my head again
> >>
> >>
> >>.
> >>>
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List Member "Russell Hayward" <russ@softhome.net> wrote:
Hi David,

> Don't forget that midnight switch folks especially
> you Tom since you're making a screen-saver thingie I
> think..  My original Kaleidoscope in QBasic every
> one at all jobs I been at liked and I didn't find out
> till months later it HUNG right at midnight cause I
> wasn't checking the timer to be LESS then the value
> which is just simply flipped over to midnite !

Actually, Windows handles it's timer a bit differently, here's what the SDK
says:

The elapsed time is stored as a DWORD value. Therefore, the time will wrap
around to zero if Windows is run continuously for 49.7 days.

As you can't have DWORDs (unsigned longs) in GFA you can halve that number
of days, but it's still a decent time.

> What does MENU(11)=WM_PAINT do
> Is it like MENU(1)=21 ?

The MENU array is just another way of finding out what message was sent to
your window. I prefer _hWnd, _Mess, _wParam and _lParam, but it doesn't make
any difference really.

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
However I word this, the line w/ "***"s stops the interpretor w/ error -005!
It *used* to work!  Has my interpretore gone SICK on me?
What the hell is error -005?  It isn't in my manuals.
<F>
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QSORT bmp$(),q&
FOR i& = 1 TO q&
  a$ = bmp$(i&)
  IF i& < 10 THEN b$ = "000" + STR$(b&) + ".jpg"
  IF i& > 9 && i& < 100 THEN b$ = "00" + STR$(b&) + ".jpg"
  IF i& > 99 && i& < 1000 THEN b$ = "0" + STR$(b&) + ".jpg"
  IF i& > 999 THEN b$ = STR$(b&) + ".jpg"
  PRINT bmp$(i&);"  ";a$
  IF EXIST(a$) THEN  RENAME a$ AS b$ **************************
NEXT i&

QSORT bmp$(),q&
FOR i& = 1 TO q&
  '  a$ = bmp$(i&)
  IF i& < 10 THEN b$ = "000" + STR$(b&) + ".jpg"
  IF i& > 9 && i& < 100 THEN b$ = "00" + STR$(b&) + ".jpg"
  IF i& > 99 && i& < 1000 THEN b$ = "0" + STR$(b&) + ".jpg"
  IF i& > 999 THEN b$ = STR$(b&) + ".jpg"
  PRINT bmp$(i&);"  ";a$
  IF EXIST(bmp$(i&)) THEN  RENAME bmp$(i&) AS b$ ******************
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Auuuughh !!  I didn't think I'd =EVER= see this !
Okay..  So it can't handle the design I WANT, let me
go down from there to what it CAN do..  :/

I replied to Russell below too:

> List Member "Russell Hayward" <russ@softhome.net>
> wrote:
> Hi David,
> 
> > Don't forget that midnight switch folks especially
> > you Tom since you're making a screen-saver thingie
> I
> > think..  My original Kaleidoscope in QBasic every
> > one at all jobs I been at liked and I didn't find
> out
> > till months later it HUNG right at midnight cause
> I
> > wasn't checking the timer to be LESS then the
> value
> > which is just simply flipped over to midnite !
> 
> Actually, Windows handles it's timer a bit
> differently, here's what the SDK
> says:
> 
> The elapsed time is stored as a DWORD value.
> Therefore, the time will wrap
> around to zero if Windows is run continuously for
> 49.7 days.
> 
> As you can't have DWORDs (unsigned longs) in GFA you
> can halve that number
> of days, but it's still a decent time.

* Well..  Then there is still a REMOTE possibility
that
  the time you enter to check the TIMER it is just now
  getting around to rolling that 49.7 day timer sooo
  to prevent that MINUTE one in a gazillion chance
  you still need my midnite checker.  :)

> 
> > What does MENU(11)=WM_PAINT do
> > Is it like MENU(1)=21 ?
> 
> The MENU array is just another way of finding out
> what message was sent to
> your window. I prefer _hWnd, _Mess, _wParam and
> _lParam, but it doesn't make
> any difference really.

Yah I'm getting pretty comfy with MENU it seems to
be what most folks are using.

Did anyone else notice all the big ADS paid by
for our Email servers ??   /
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Tom, I got that nasty error -005 myself when I
started playing with DLLs !  With that I hanged
up my DLL Cape and went back to normal programming !
:)

Sincerely,
David W.

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> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> However I word this, the line w/ "***"s stops the
> interpretor w/ error -005!
> It *used* to work!  Has my interpretore gone SICK on
> me?
> What the hell is error -005?  It isn't in my
> manuals.
> <F>
> TomR.
> 
> 
> QSORT bmp$(),q&
> FOR i& = 1 TO q&
>   a$ = bmp$(i&)
>   IF i& < 10 THEN b$ = "000" + STR$(b&) + ".jpg"
>   IF i& > 9 && i& < 100 THEN b$ = "00" + STR$(b&) +
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> ".jpg"
>   IF i& > 999 THEN b$ = STR$(b&) + ".jpg"
>   PRINT bmp$(i&);"  ";a$
>   IF EXIST(a$) THEN  RENAME a$ AS b$
> **************************
> NEXT i&
> 
> QSORT bmp$(),q&
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
The request about why a sorted array couldn't be used to rename files...

Forget it - I finally saw that I was mixing variables.

Stupid of me!
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List Member MISER@LCIA.COM (Micromiser, Inc) wrote:
Hi Dave,

I don't think I've ever used "CLOSE DLL" (I use FREEDLL). What am I missing?

IF MENU(11)=WM_PAINT... just means Windows sent your app a WM_PAINT message,
i.e. something covered or uncovered on one of your windows (I think).

Thanks for correcting my CLRPAINT routine to account for 12:00am. And I have
used it where no WM_PAINT usually occurs. No excuse for me.

Since you are working on DLLs, do you know if all DLL variables are static?
It seems so, though I never did a systematic check for this. If not, what
would make them lose values between calls?

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List Member "B.M.C.S." <bmcs@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>>That's a lotta work guys I think my Divide / 0 thingie is easier to follow
right ??  :)
No.

>>Since I'm writing code that operates same ways for compiler/interpreter I
really don't need it but knowing n/0 is there save it for later. Sposers I
might need it later.
You will.

>>And not everyone has GFAWIN37.EXE right ??  mine is GFW_DEMO.EXE v4.38.
Was just pointing out that the interpreter exe (whichever one you have)
path, is returned when run from the interpreter.
So why don't you buy the "Real" program, instead of using the evaluation
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
* Greets Steve:

--- "Micromiser, Inc" <MISER@LCIA.COM> wrote:
> List Member MISER@LCIA.COM (Micromiser, Inc) wrote:
> Hi Dave,
> 
> I don't think I've ever used "CLOSE DLL" (I use
> FREEDLL). What am I missing?

* Not much, they are start all sounding the same
  after a-while, yah I'm AWFULLY prejudice to
  anything that resembles C programmings.  :)

> 
> IF MENU(11)=WM_PAINT... just means Windows sent your
> app a WM_PAINT message,
> i.e. something covered or uncovered on one of your
> windows (I think).

* Is it the same as MENU(1)=21 ?
  I guess I'm asking cause I don't know if it's
  the same difference.

> 
> Thanks for correcting my CLRPAINT routine to account
> for 12:00am. And I have
> used it where no WM_PAINT usually occurs. No excuse
> for me.

* Yah well at my last job I was writing databases,
  all the folks at work wanted a copy of my QB
  Kaleidoscope for their screen-saver so I done
  that.  Boss called me in office next day said I
  better remove that VIRUS I put in there !  Yah they
  panicked didn't know it not was a virus just
  too not good programming.  Learned about the
  MIDNITE TIMER BUG for the first time and I've been
  on the look-out for it ever since !

* What's more serious is the Y2K bug tho !
  Checkout this file for more details:

  http://www.geocities.com/dw817/y2kbug.gif

> 
> Since you are working on DLLs, do you know if all
> DLL variables are static?

* Me Working on DLLS ?  Hello No !  Not once I
  found out you gotta piggyback a FREEDLL with them
  or later CRASH your computer.
  Sorry DLL, no FREE lunches on my bus.
  Not when I run a program about every minute of
  it being programmed to see if it works.  :)

> It seems so, though I never did a systematic check
> for this. If not, what
> would make them lose values between calls?

* They are reset to 0 I think when you call their
  locals, Globals don't transfer too well I'm
  understanding..  :/

Sincerely,
David W.



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At 07:46 PM 5/3/00 +0000, you wrote:
>List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>Atoms & atom tables have been nagging at my curiosity bone a long time!
>Steve... PLEASE find that routine & post - I'mm anxious to understand
>just what they mean & do.
>
Hi Tom,

Main advantages of the Atom table are convenience (easier than managing
memory), speed (it's fast), and easily available to any other EXE or DLL
running, like the clipboard. Poor man's communication between prgs.

Here's a routine that uses the atom table to store line markers in compiled
code for debugging. Useful when an error either kicks you out to the desktop
or causes a reboot, and interpreter not getting error (or not available,
i.e. during support calls). 

If a file named DEBUG is on the C drive, then stores line numbers in the
atom table (fast). If the DEBUG file starts with the line "BUGLINE" then the
line numbers are stored in a file named BUGLINE on the C drive (slow, but
necessary if the error causes a reboot).

The current marker is always in DEBUG% regardless of the existence of a
DEBUG file, so can also be displayed in any general error routine.

OPENW #1,0,0,SCRW&,SCRH&
....
DEBUG|=0,DEBUG$="" 'init code
IF EXIST("C:\DEBUG")<>0 THEN 'Not critical I/O (network, etc.)
  OPEN "I",#1,"C:\DEBUG"
  LINE INPUT #1,A$
  CLOSE #1
  IF A$="BUGLINE" THEN
    DEBUG|=2
  ELSE
    DEBUG|=1
  ENDIF 'I also have a flag to use ramdrive, but removed here
  GOSUB INITDEBUG 'Find marker of previous run, clear Atom table
  IF DEBUG$<>"" THEN TITLEW #1,"Debug marker at "+DEBUG$
ENDIF
...
Now, throughout your program, put in marker numbers by calling Procedure MK
wherever you think there may be trouble. I have hundreds of these, maybe
thousands...Doesn't slow down if DEBUG|=0
...
A$="Sample code segment" 'some code
@MK(102) 'Any marker number. I use the interpreter line no., just to
'get unique number. Doesn't correspond after code edits, but no matter.
B$="More code that might have a bug in it" 'all of my code <grin>
@MK(48287) 'Any longword number seems to work, my highest line#
....

PROCEDURE INITDEBUG
  LOCAL A%,ER%
  FOR A%=48000 TO 50000 'Has worked for years, W3.1 - W98
    A$=SPACE$(30) 'evidently Win uses that number range
    ER%=GlobalGetAtomName(A%,V:A$,30)
    IF LEFT$(A$,7)="SBWBUG " THEN 'Use any unique ID string, if
      'ID string len is not 7, revise "7" next
      DEBUG$=CHAR{V:A$+7} 'The marker number when last locked up
      ER%=GlobalDeleteAtom(A%) 'Del any entry w/ your ID string
    ENDIF
  NEXT A%
RETURN
PROCEDURE MK(DUM%)
  LOCAL A$ 'actually I use a global var here for speed. Shouldn't matter.
  IF DEBUG|>0 THEN
    ~GlobalDeleteAtom(DEBUG%) 'Delete the last marker
    A$="SBWBUG "+STR$(DUM%)+CHR$(0)
    DEBUG%=GlobalAddAtom(V:A$) 'Add ID string + marker#
    IF DEBUG|>1 THEN
      OPEN "O",#10,"C:\BUGLINE" 'So can get marker# after reboot
      ? #10,DUM%
      CLOSE #10 'Make sure not using #10 elsewhere
    ENDIF
  ELSE
    DEBUG%=DUM% 'Can show DEBUG% in general error popups
  ENDIF
RETURN

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List Member MISER@LCIA.COM (Micromiser, Inc) wrote:
Hi Dave,

Don't know if MENU(1)=21 is exactly equivalent to MENU(11)=WM_PAINT. Would
have to look at compiler source to know for sure. But I suspect it is. Why
would compiler differentiate it? Probably loads MENU(11) and MENU(1) in
contigious code. You need to use this type of thing a lot to get the
answers. I haven't used MENU(1) much.

At 09:17 PM 5/3/00 -0700, you wrote:
>List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> IF MENU(11)=WM_PAINT... just means Windows sent your
>> app a WM_PAINT message,
>> i.e. something covered or uncovered on one of your
>> windows (I think).
>
>* Is it the same as MENU(1)=21 ?
>  I guess I'm asking cause I don't know if it's
>  the same difference.
>

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Errrrr, thanks <G>.
This will take some study, serious study, because debug doesn't work
on this one.  I have a fixdebug, but haven't installed it yet.
Where's the Midol?  This project is loaded w/ headaches that Aspirin
& Tylenol don't touch <G>.

Thanks again, Steve.
<G>
TomR.


At 01:12 AM 04/05/00 -0400, you wrote:
>List Member MISER@LCIA.COM (Micromiser, Inc) wrote:
>At 07:46 PM 5/3/00 +0000, you wrote:
>>List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>>Atoms & atom tables have been nagging at my curiosity bone a long time!
>>Steve... PLEASE find that routine & post - I'mm anxious to understand
>>just what they mean & do.
>>
>Hi Tom,
>
>Main advantages of the Atom table are convenience (easier than managing
>memory), speed (it's fast), and easily available to any other EXE or DLL
>running, like the clipboard. Poor man's communication between prgs.
>
>Here's a routine that uses the atom table to store line markers in compiled
>code for debugging. Useful when an error either kicks you out to the desktop
>or causes a reboot, and interpreter not getting error (or not available,
>i.e. during support calls). 
>
>If a file named DEBUG is on the C drive, then stores line numbers in the
>atom table (fast). If the DEBUG file starts with the line "BUGLINE" then the
>line numbers are stored in a file named BUGLINE on the C drive (slow, but
>necessary if the error causes a reboot).
>
>The current marker is always in DEBUG% regardless of the existence of a
>DEBUG file, so can also be displayed in any general error routine.
>
>OPENW #1,0,0,SCRW&,SCRH&
>....
>DEBUG|=0,DEBUG$="" 'init code
>IF EXIST("C:\DEBUG")<>0 THEN 'Not critical I/O (network, etc.)
>  OPEN "I",#1,"C:\DEBUG"
>  LINE INPUT #1,A$
>  CLOSE #1
>  IF A$="BUGLINE" THEN
>    DEBUG|=2
>  ELSE
>    DEBUG|=1
>  ENDIF 'I also have a flag to use ramdrive, but removed here
>  GOSUB INITDEBUG 'Find marker of previous run, clear Atom table
>  IF DEBUG$<>"" THEN TITLEW #1,"Debug marker at "+DEBUG$
>ENDIF
>...
>Now, throughout your program, put in marker numbers by calling Procedure MK
>wherever you think there may be trouble. I have hundreds of these, maybe
>thousands...Doesn't slow down if DEBUG|=0
>...
>A$="Sample code segment" 'some code
>@MK(102) 'Any marker number. I use the interpreter line no., just to
>'get unique number. Doesn't correspond after code edits, but no matter.
>B$="More code that might have a bug in it" 'all of my code <grin>
>@MK(48287) 'Any longword number seems to work, my highest line#
>....
>
>PROCEDURE INITDEBUG
>  LOCAL A%,ER%
>  FOR A%=48000 TO 50000 'Has worked for years, W3.1 - W98
>    A$=SPACE$(30) 'evidently Win uses that number range
>    ER%=GlobalGetAtomName(A%,V:A$,30)
>    IF LEFT$(A$,7)="SBWBUG " THEN 'Use any unique ID string, if
>      'ID string len is not 7, revise "7" next
>      DEBUG$=CHAR{V:A$+7} 'The marker number when last locked up
>      ER%=GlobalDeleteAtom(A%) 'Del any entry w/ your ID string
>    ENDIF
>  NEXT A%
>RETURN
>PROCEDURE MK(DUM%)
>  LOCAL A$ 'actually I use a global var here for speed. Shouldn't matter.
>  IF DEBUG|>0 THEN
>    ~GlobalDeleteAtom(DEBUG%) 'Delete the last marker
>    A$="SBWBUG "+STR$(DUM%)+CHR$(0)
>    DEBUG%=GlobalAddAtom(V:A$) 'Add ID string + marker#
>    IF DEBUG|>1 THEN
>      OPEN "O",#10,"C:\BUGLINE" 'So can get marker# after reboot
>      ? #10,DUM%
>      CLOSE #10 'Make sure not using #10 elsewhere
>    ENDIF
>  ELSE
>    DEBUG%=DUM% 'Can show DEBUG% in general error popups
>  ENDIF
>RETURN
>
>-----
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:


--- "B.M.C.S." <bmcs@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
> List Member "B.M.C.S." <bmcs@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
> >>That's a lotta work guys I think my Divide / 0
> thingie is easier to follow
> right ??  :)
> No.
> 
> >>Since I'm writing code that operates same ways for
> compiler/interpreter I
> really don't need it but knowing n/0 is there save
> it for later. Sposers I
> might need it later.
> You will.
> 
> >>And not everyone has GFAWIN37.EXE right ??  mine
> is GFW_DEMO.EXE v4.38.
> Was just pointing out that the interpreter exe
> (whichever one you have)
> path, is returned when run from the interpreter.
> So why don't you buy the "Real" program, instead of
> using the evaluation
> edition ?
> 
> Dave Barton

* Gee you're being AWFULLY NICE to me !

Okay Dave.  First off, I don't have $400 to shoot off.
And if you're going to get on me about purchasing
the "Real" program, you better get on the case of
more then half the other people in here too who I
doubt quite seriously have paid $400 for it.

Like Tom R., I'm very poor and if I were rich, I
wouldn't be sharing ANY of my code with others
anyways I'd be selling it commercially and getting
MORE richer.  :P

Fortunately for everyone else, I'm just a
Thrill-Seeker and not out to make a wad of dough.  :)

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hey !  Steve !  That idea of yours is GENIUS !
Make your own line #'s for error checking.
Okay !  I DID find that by pushing and pulling
massive 40 virtual pages is, well, it's kinna slow
sooo I can go back to PURE WindowLock !  :)

Annnd I'll hook back in ON ERROR .
Really good idea of yours Steve !

ON ERROR GOSUB ErrFound

LN 438 ' <-- Mark this spot as line # 438
(Code that gives an error)

PROCEDURE LN(N)
  ERL=N
RETURN

PROCEDURE ErrFound
LOCAL A$
  Shutdown ' <-- Close down all virtual stuff
  .
  . Spaced in multiple lines so can cut & paste
  . From this screwball Email !
  .
  A$="Line # "+STR$(ERL)+CHR$(13)+ERR$(ERR)
  MESSAGE A$,"GOTCHA!",0,Z
  END
RETURN

I sometimes forget just how useful those little
PROCEDUREs are !

Tom, I looking at your code, noticed you don't
use LOCAL variables ?  Naaow I'm not going to point
my finger at anyone but LOCAL in the future helps
in the long run.  Took me along time to realize
it myself.  :)

Okay Steve, I got this far but I still don't
understand ATOMs !

Maybe I don't need to with the above ?
You mentioned something about IDs for Atoms ?
Does it make its own set so it doesn't get confused
or do you need to create unique original ones each
time ?

Thanks for the above info !
Will go to apply it sooner then immediately !

Sincerely,
David W.

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> >List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> >Atoms & atom tables have been nagging at my
> curiosity bone a long time!
> >Steve... PLEASE find that routine & post - I'mm
> anxious to understand
> >just what they mean & do.
> >
> Hi Tom,
> 
> Main advantages of the Atom table are convenience
> (easier than managing
> memory), speed (it's fast), and easily available to
> any other EXE or DLL
> running, like the clipboard. Poor man's
> communication between prgs.
> 
> Here's a routine that uses the atom table to store
> line markers in compiled
> code for debugging. Useful when an error either
> kicks you out to the desktop
> or causes a reboot, and interpreter not getting
> error (or not available,
> i.e. during support calls). 
> 
> If a file named DEBUG is on the C drive, then stores
> line numbers in the
> atom table (fast). If the DEBUG file starts with the
> line "BUGLINE" then the
> line numbers are stored in a file named BUGLINE on
> the C drive (slow, but
> necessary if the error causes a reboot).
> 
> The current marker is always in DEBUG% regardless of
> the existence of a
> DEBUG file, so can also be displayed in any general
> error routine.
> 
> OPENW #1,0,0,SCRW&,SCRH&
> .....
> DEBUG|=0,DEBUG$="" 'init code
> IF EXIST("C:\DEBUG")<>0 THEN 'Not critical I/O
> (network, etc.)
>   OPEN "I",#1,"C:\DEBUG"
>   LINE INPUT #1,A$
>   CLOSE #1
>   IF A$="BUGLINE" THEN
>     DEBUG|=2
>   ELSE
>     DEBUG|=1
>   ENDIF 'I also have a flag to use ramdrive, but
> removed here
>   GOSUB INITDEBUG 'Find marker of previous run,
> clear Atom table
>   IF DEBUG$<>"" THEN TITLEW #1,"Debug marker at
> "+DEBUG$
> ENDIF
> ....
> Now, throughout your program, put in marker numbers
> by calling Procedure MK
> wherever you think there may be trouble. I have
> hundreds of these, maybe
> thousands...Doesn't slow down if DEBUG|=0
> ....
> A$="Sample code segment" 'some code
> @MK(102) 'Any marker number. I use the interpreter
> line no., just to
> 'get unique number. Doesn't correspond after code
> edits, but no matter.
> B$="More code that might have a bug in it" 'all of
> my code <grin>
> @MK(48287) 'Any longword number seems to work, my
> highest line#
> .....
> 
> PROCEDURE INITDEBUG
>   LOCAL A%,ER%
>   FOR A%=48000 TO 50000 'Has worked for years, W3.1
> - W98
>     A$=SPACE$(30) 'evidently Win uses that number
> range
>     ER%=GlobalGetAtomName(A%,V:A$,30)
>     IF LEFT$(A$,7)="SBWBUG " THEN 'Use any unique ID
> string, if
>       'ID string len is not 7, revise "7" next
>       DEBUG$=CHAR{V:A$+7} 'The marker number when
> last locked up
>       ER%=GlobalDeleteAtom(A%) 'Del any entry w/
> your ID string
>     ENDIF
>   NEXT A%
> RETURN
> PROCEDURE MK(DUM%)
>   LOCAL A$ 'actually I use a global var here for
> speed. Shouldn't matter.
>   IF DEBUG|>0 THEN
>     ~GlobalDeleteAtom(DEBUG%) 'Delete the last
> marker
>     A$="SBWBUG "+STR$(DUM%)+CHR$(0)
>     DEBUG%=GlobalAddAtom(V:A$) 'Add ID string +
> marker#
>     IF DEBUG|>1 THEN
>       OPEN "O",#10,"C:\BUGLINE" 'So can get marker#
> after reboot
>       ? #10,DUM%
>       CLOSE #10 'Make sure not using #10 elsewhere
>     ENDIF
>   ELSE
>     DEBUG%=DUM% 'Can show DEBUG% in general error
> popups
>   ENDIF
> RETURN
> 
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:


--- "Micromiser, Inc" <MISER@LCIA.COM> wrote:
> List Member MISER@LCIA.COM (Micromiser, Inc) wrote:
> Hi Dave,
> 
> Don't know if MENU(1)=21 is exactly equivalent to
> MENU(11)=WM_PAINT. Would
> have to look at compiler source to know for sure.
> But I suspect it is. Why
> would compiler differentiate it? Probably loads
> MENU(11) and MENU(1) in
> contigious code. You need to use this type of thing
> a lot to get the
> answers. I haven't used MENU(1) much.

* Hey !  I written an easier way and it works ALL
  the time too !

OPENW #1
CB WIN(1),WM_PAINT,Update()
WHILE MOUSEK <> 2
  PEEKEVENT
WEND
CLOSEW #1

PROCEDURE Update(HW&,M&,W&,L%)
  . ^ The &'s and % are required for the compiler
  PRINT "*";N
  N ++
RETURN

It'll put out STARS when the screen needs to be
updated.  Don't =EVER= put a PEEKEVENT inside that
Update routine tho it crashes computer !

Annd the &'s and % are REQUIRED for compiler !
It runs just fine in interpreter but OH DON'T
FORGET the &'s and % for compiler
(took me a half hour to figure that one out!)  :)

Neat thing about this away is you don't have to
look at MENU at all, this sucker runs multi-task in
the background !  :)

Hope This Helps !

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member MISER@LCIA.COM (Micromiser, Inc) wrote:
Hi Tom and Dave,

Thanks for the compliments, though the error-marker idea was no original
thought. The atom table is handy for it because it retains contents after an
error shuts down your program. Using the existence of a file as a flag works
for me because I always have a station sitting at a DOS prompt, and it's one
thing I know any customer can do regardless of configuration. I like to
avoid debugger programs because they add a lot of OTR (other stuff running).
But I would like to compile line numbers into my program like some other
Basics do, as long as I didn't need addition software or the interpreter to
get the line# (wouldn't work in support). Anybody know if that's possible?

The Atom table just stores strings in a string array somewhere, like a
listbox. It doesn't add anything to the string, just assigns an index number
to it, like with any array, which it gives you. My program wouldn't remember
the index# after a crash, thus the need to search on the next run. The
"Unique ID string" in my code was just a string I made up to start off each
string I stored in the table so I could identify my own elements as opposed
to others that other programs might be storing. If another program used
"SBWBUG " to start off a string in the table, then there would be a clash.
So, sloppy in that regard. Mabye something like "TomRDogEatsPrinterCable"
would be better.

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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
UPDATE 05/04/2000

TIM234.ZIP by Wolfgang Schindler

Very nice clock program.
dale
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi Steve !

--- "Micromiser, Inc" <MISER@LCIA.COM> wrote:
> List Member MISER@LCIA.COM (Micromiser, Inc) wrote:
> Hi Tom and Dave,
> 
> Thanks for the compliments, though the error-marker
> idea was no original
> thought.

* Well at this day and time there's probably not much
  left of an original thought for writing software.
  We just THINK we can all write better then what's
  out there.  May be LIFE is an illusion after all.
  :)

> The atom table is handy for it because it
> retains contents after an
> error shuts down your program. Using the existence
> of a file as a flag works
> for me because I always have a station sitting at a
> DOS prompt, and it's one
> thing I know any customer can do regardless of
> configuration. I like to
> avoid debugger programs because they add a lot of
> OTR (other stuff running).

That ATOM stuff looks pretty complex !  I written a
gizzymo to GET, PUT, and FREE graphic blocks by a
name instead which is nice for quick stuff.

MyGet 0,0,15,15,"StAtus"

MyPut 0,0,"status"
' ^ Yah it's caps blind like it should be !

> But I would like to compile line numbers into my
> program like some other
> Basics do, as long as I didn't need addition
> software or the interpreter to
> get the line# (wouldn't work in support). Anybody
> know if that's possible?

* Well I wanna know if you can determine the line #
  an error came out on.  Your MARKER idea is such a
  good one I'm using it, but if I can determine the
  line # an error occured in GFA interpreter, that
  would be better.
> 
> The Atom table just stores strings in a string array
> somewhere, like a
> listbox. It doesn't add anything to the string, just
> assigns an index number
> to it, like with any array, which it gives you. My
> program wouldn't remember
> the index# after a crash, thus the need to search on
> the next run. The
> "Unique ID string" in my code was just a string I
> made up to start off each
> string I stored in the table so I could identify my
> own elements as opposed
> to others that other programs might be storing. If
> another program used
> "SBWBUG " to start off a string in the table, then
> there would be a clash.
> So, sloppy in that regard. Mabye something like
> "TomRDogEatsPrinterCable"
> would be better.

* I was thinking in GameDev how it would be nice to
  have,

SAVEVAR "Game","A*-Z*"

Would SAVE off all variables that have the letter
A-Z for first character, yah that's all variables
in this case.  Or..

SAVEVAR "Status","ST*"
Would SAVE off any variables that start out with
"ST" as their first two letters.

Is there a way to do this in GFA
Or do I have to think up =ALL= these good ideas ??
:)

Sincerely,
David W.


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List Member "Bev Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
Uh!  I owe the interpreter; got it for a lot cheaper than $400Cdn let alone
$US (I owned the Atari version of both before, of course). I, also, have the
DOS version (don't own the compiler tho -- went to windows first). I've
written half a dozen programs that just won't fit in that 1000 line limit;
anyone else notice that GFA smartened up with the 32-bit version -- 200 line
limit <g>. Damn, when are they going to put out the English docs & how much
is it going to cost me!!!!!

                             -->Bev<--

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> List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> --- "B.M.C.S." <bmcs@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
> > List Member "B.M.C.S." <bmcs@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
> > >>That's a lotta work guys I think my Divide / 0
> > thingie is easier to follow
> > right ??  :)
> > No.
> >
> > >>Since I'm writing code that operates same ways for
> > compiler/interpreter I
> > really don't need it but knowing n/0 is there save
> > it for later. Sposers I
> > might need it later.
> > You will.
> >
> > >>And not everyone has GFAWIN37.EXE right ??  mine
> > is GFW_DEMO.EXE v4.38.
> > Was just pointing out that the interpreter exe
> > (whichever one you have)
> > path, is returned when run from the interpreter.
> > So why don't you buy the "Real" program, instead of
> > using the evaluation
> > edition ?
> >
> > Dave Barton
>
> * Gee you're being AWFULLY NICE to me !
>
> Okay Dave.  First off, I don't have $400 to shoot off.
> And if you're going to get on me about purchasing
> the "Real" program, you better get on the case of
> more then half the other people in here too who I
> doubt quite seriously have paid $400 for it.
>
> Like Tom R., I'm very poor and if I were rich, I
> wouldn't be sharing ANY of my code with others
> anyways I'd be selling it commercially and getting
> MORE richer.  :P
>
> Fortunately for everyone else, I'm just a
> Thrill-Seeker and not out to make a wad of dough.  :)
>
> Sincerely,
> David W.
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Greets Bev:

--- Bev Brown <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
> List Member "Bev Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com>
> wrote:
> Uh!  I owe the interpreter; got it for a lot cheaper
> than $400Cdn let alone
> $US

* Well me and Dad were figuring it, the company that
  sold me the compiler said the interpreter isn't
  separate.  I have to buy both, so it's a combined
  cost of about $400.  No I paid $85 for the compiler
!
  Yah I might as well have donated my plasma !
  It is =SO= unlike me to pay for any software,
  I usually wind up writing my own if I like what
  it's doing enough.  :)

(I owned the Atari version of both before, of
> course). I, also, have the
> DOS version (don't own the compiler tho -- went to
> windows first). I've
> written half a dozen programs that just won't fit in
> that 1000 line limit;

* ASCII Merge isn't such a devil.  And I've gotta
  DRY (meaning no GRAPHICS which is an effort for me!)
  editor I put together just for me.  With the
compiler
  it's pretty smart.  And I always leave that [F1]
  help up in background.

> anyone else notice that GFA smartened up with the
> 32-bit version -- 200 line
> limit <g>. Damn, when are they going to put out the
> English docs & how much
> is it going to cost me!!!!!

* Yah 200 lines scared me off so severe I DOUBT I'll
  even look at GFA32 EVEN if it is somehow better.
  That kinna marketing is just plain RUDE !  :)
  I like the limited day stuff cause you get to
  ride with the PILOT for at least a month and then
  you can make a decision from there.

* Okay, main reason I'm posting I'm learning about
  GFA and their pull/push pointer stuff.  It happens
  to all of us I thinking.  You check DRIVE C to see
  just how much memory you're pulling (cause the
  remainder for C is like a buffer for windows) and
  it jumped from 140 down to 80 !  Whatya gonna do !
  Okay don't panic, save your work, and instead of
  powering down or even rebooting, check out that
  little (Start) button.  It's got a LOG OFF button
  there.  What this does is shutdown Windows
  VERY QUICKLY without even changing screens and
  free up all that memory you munched in GFA.

  It's a snip faster then powering down or rebooting
  so I thought I'd toss that in as a Helper Hint
  to some of you others who may be running out of
  virtual space in Drive C by too much Pushing and
  Pulling memory.

  Russell's Windowlock is worth its weight in gold,
  but I gotta keep down the # of virtual pages I
  open in it to be on the safe side !

  I'm also finding that even with GFA releasing
  memory Windows is =AWFULLY= reluctant to give it
  back !  Best to test out your massive memory pull
  stuff when you gotta fresh slate in windows.

  Try out that LOG OFF technique to speed up memory
  and hard-drive space recovery !  :)

Hope This Helps !

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member MISER@LCIA.COM (Micromiser, Inc) wrote:
>
>* I was thinking in GameDev how it would be nice to
>  have,
>
>SAVEVAR "Game","A*-Z*"
>
I did that once (as I recall) in Atari 8-bit Basic. But that was a
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List Member Vogel Michael <vo@schoeller.at> wrote:
ERR$(5) says SINGLE{} Overflow

btw, why you're doing a such complicate code (if... then, if... then) ?

b$=right$(str$(1000+i&),3)+".jpg"
 
    should do the whole job, or not ?

Michael 

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> Gesendet: 	Do, 04. Mai 2000 01:33
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> Betreff: 	[gfabasic] error -005
> 
> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> However I word this, the line w/ "***"s stops the interpretor w/ error
> -005!
> It *used* to work!  Has my interpretore gone SICK on me?
> What the hell is error -005?  It isn't in my manuals.
> <F>
> TomR.
> 
> 
> QSORT bmp$(),q&
> FOR i& = 1 TO q&
>   a$ = bmp$(i&)
>   IF i& < 10 THEN b$ = "000" + STR$(b&) + ".jpg"
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>   IF EXIST(a$) THEN  RENAME a$ AS b$ **************************
> NEXT i&
> 
> QSORT bmp$(),q&
> FOR i& = 1 TO q&
>   '  a$ = bmp$(i&)
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List Member "B.M.C.S." <bmcs@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
Hi David,

>> Gee you're being AWFULLY NICE to me !
Well I am a nice person :-]


>> First off, I don't have $400 to shoot off.
OK, but that doesn't change the fact that GFA released the evaluation
edition for the purpose of giving potential users the opportunity to try the
product (for a "reasonable" period of time) and decide if they want to buy
it or not. Go down to your local auto dealer and ask if you can take one of
their cars out on a permanent test drive. I suspect that GFA realised that
it was possible for smart programmers to do something useful in 1,000 lines
of code and this is why the 32 bit evaluation version is limited to 200
lines.

>> And if you're going to get on me about purchasing the "Real" program, you
better get on the case of more then half the other people in here too
Now that I would seriously question. I think that "more than half" the
people on this list could take exception to your statement. Over several
years (going back as far as the CompuServe forum) I have seen code
submissions extending to well over 1,000 lines from the majority of people
on this list. No I am not "getting on you". You are the one who has been
complaining here about the limitations of GFW_DEMO.EXE v4.38, so I suggested
a solution for you. So you don't like my suggestion, that's OK.

>> who I doubt quite seriously have paid $400 for it.
Possibly true, since many users here have upgraded from previous versions of
GFA for other platforms (eg. Atari & DOS). The strength of the DM (and now
the Euro) makes all GFA products a bit pricey for purchasers outside Germany
(or the Euro based countries).

>> Like Tom R.
Do you think it is right to make that judgement ? Tom "being the quiet / shy
person he is :-D" has made statements in this forum, but I believe he has
the right to speak for himself on such matters.


>>I'm very poor
Aren't we all :-( ?


>> and if I were rich, I wouldn't be sharing ANY of my code with others
anyways I'd be selling it commercially and getting MORE richer.  :P
Are you poking your tong out or slobbering at the thought of being
disgustingly wealthy ?
Maybe I missed the point, but I don't understand the correlation between
being rich and being unwilling to share. There are number of very
knowledgable and skilled programmers on this (and the GB32 list), who (
while not necessarily rich)  work professionally in the IT industry and are
willing to share examples and extracts of their code, with the rest of us.


>> Fortunately for everyone else
Oh David, if you have a fault it's modesty :-|


>> I'm just a Thrill-Seeker and not out to make a wad of dough.  :)
Then why are you always taking about money ?

Bye
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:


--- "B.M.C.S." <bmcs@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
> List Member "B.M.C.S." <bmcs@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
> Hi David,
> 
> >> Gee you're being AWFULLY NICE to me !
> Well I am a nice person :-]

* Let me read on..

> 
> 
> >> First off, I don't have $400 to shoot off.
> OK, but that doesn't change the fact that GFA
> released the evaluation
> edition for the purpose of giving potential users
> the opportunity to try the
> product (for a "reasonable" period of time) and
> decide if they want to buy
> it or not. Go down to your local auto dealer and ask
> if you can take one of
> their cars out on a permanent test drive.

* 30 Days trial is not a permanent test drive.

I suspect
> that GFA realised that
> it was possible for smart programmers to do
> something useful in 1,000 lines
> of code and this is why the 32 bit evaluation
> version is limited to 200
> lines.

* I think everyone will agree that 200 lines
  is too small to check any decent coding.

> 
> >> And if you're going to get on me about purchasing
> the "Real" program, you
> better get on the case of more then half the other
> people in here too
> Now that I would seriously question. I think that
> "more than half" the
> people on this list could take exception to your
> statement.

* If more then half of the people in here have the
  compiler then they can afford to purchase the
  software they need and not spend time to write it.

Over several
> years (going back as far as the CompuServe forum) I
> have seen code
> submissions extending to well over 1,000 lines from
> the majority of people
> on this list. No I am not "getting on you". You are
> the one who has been
> complaining here about the limitations of
> GFW_DEMO.EXE v4.38, so I suggested
> a solution for you. So you don't like my suggestion,
> that's OK.

* Your suggestion of $400 to purchase it is
unavailable
  to me.  I apologize for getting cross earlier but
  money is a very sore subject with me.  The less I
  have, the better I feel.  Most of what I do have
  I buy computer stuff or spend it all on the weekend
  with Rose.

  I now meet a very unusual handicapped status because
  of my excellent work record that permits the
  government to pay me $550 per month for the rest
  of my life just for staying ALIVE and coping with
  my mental and emotional disorders.

  I don't feel any shame or remorse in saying that I
  have severe emotional problems and rarely fit into
  groups.  This then is the reason I have been fired
  from every job I have ever been at.  However, I am
  readily rehired because by checking my work record
  at any job I have ever been at, I have met or
  exceeded the standards in the work place, often
  upgrading and excelling the current curriculum and
  company.  Most people hire me to upgrade everything
  and then boot me out the door because of my
  emotional and social dysfunction.

  * I RARELY fit into groups.  Dale has shown me
    otherwise.  This is indeed rare.

  Since I have had serious depression in the
  past, not just thoughts of suicide but cutting 3
  tendons in my wrist.  It is conversation like this
  that drags me down again despite the medications
  I am taking.  I am feeling this way again now.

  Are you hoping to accomplish something useful in
  this conversation or is this just the time to
  kick the "dog" ?  I take conversations like these
  as if they were cutting a knife down my back to
  pull out my spinal column.  I take conversations
  like these as if I were mounted against a stone
  slab with several hundred thousand people screaming
  and yelling at me angrily.  I take conversations
  like these very seriously and they toll quite
  heavily on my emotions.
> 
> >> who I doubt quite seriously have paid $400 for
> it.
> Possibly true, since many users here have upgraded
> from previous versions of
> GFA for other platforms (eg. Atari & DOS). The
> strength of the DM (and now
> the Euro) makes all GFA products a bit pricey for
> purchasers outside Germany
> (or the Euro based countries).
> 
> >> Like Tom R.
> Do you think it is right to make that judgement ?
> Tom "being the quiet / shy
> person he is :-D" has made statements in this forum,
> but I believe he has
> the right to speak for himself on such matters.

* I am not putting or try to be putting words in
  Tom's mouth.  We have talked a long time in private
  Email and he is not trying to hide the fact that
  he is a bit of a financial bind like myself for
  things.  I have worked for better than 7 software
  companies, and if someone is indeed to make a
  financial profit for writing software, well I would
  like at least a little bit of that money.
  Is this so grossly unfair ?

> 
> 
> >>I'm very poor
> Aren't we all :-( ?

* Some more poor then others.  If you can afford
  the Interpreter that's fine for you.
> 
> 
> >> and if I were rich, I wouldn't be sharing ANY of
> my code with others
> anyways I'd be selling it commercially and getting
> MORE richer.  :P
> Are you poking your tong out or slobbering at the
> thought of being
> disgustingly wealthy ?

Dave, that tone is fairly insulting.  :/
This is a serious statement.  In order to make
money selling software I would be making it
crippled, demoware, or nagware.  No, the only thing
I have =EVER= asked even for QBasic years ago is
that it would be nice to receive a postcard.

IF THIS IS POKING MY TONGUE OUT SLOBBERING I THINK
YOU MISSED THE POINT.  I DESPISE MONEY which is why
I have so little of it, I give it to Rose so we can
have a nice weekend.  If I REALLY wanted to make money
I'd hide in the shadows of the GFAForum, reading
everything, contributing nothing, and selling
every one else's good ideas in my "own" programs.

* I certainly hope I haven't described to a fine
  detail picture anyone in here..

> Maybe I missed the point, but I don't understand the
> correlation between
> being rich and being unwilling to share.

Dave, if I wanted to make money, I would lock up my
code, show the source code to no-one, and demand,
in every way possible, that I be paid before anyone
could get a copy of any of my software.  I would be
rich but I don't want that.  Dad says I should start
my own software company since I have the free time
for it now.

Tom B. (a friend of me and my sister's)
works for Microsoft, pulls down $20/hr.  And thinks
I am insanely STUPID for contributing any of my
sourcecode freely instead of selling it.  He says
everyone in GFA WILL rip off everything I write and
if I'm doing it ALL just for a "Good Boy" and a pat
on the head, then I must have one very serious
inferiority complex.  I do, I like to try and fit in
and will go to great pains to do so sometimes.

There is absolutely nothing I can do to prevent
anyone in GFA, this Forum, or outside programming in
GFA, there is NOTHING I can do to prevent anyone from
RIPPING my code.  A lot of you know this, a lot of
you probably are ripping my code.  It's happened so
many times in the past.  It will happen in the future.
There is nothing I can do about it, I can "say"
Copyright, I can "say" Please give Credit.  But I
can't demand it, no..  that's not the right word.
I can't ENFORCE it or MONITOR it in any way.

Bottom line, if anyone is ripping my code, this is
nothing new.  It's happened so many times in the past.
When money was involved where I "worked" for companies
that later ripped my code.  The pain was deeper.
The pain is less when there is no money involved and
just "credit." or fleeting fame.  :)

It's an old story, it's happened many times in the
past, it will happen again in the future.

But at least LIE to me and say something nice about
me.  Everyone else has in the past and I get along
better that way.

There are
> number of very
> knowledgable and skilled programmers on this (and
> the GB32 list), who (
> while not necessarily rich)  work professionally in
> the IT industry and are
> willing to share examples and extracts of their
> code, with the rest of us.

I don't see them sharing their source code in here.

> 
> 
> >> Fortunately for everyone else
> Oh David, if you have a fault it's modesty :-|

If it is modest to share better then 20% of the
entire submissions of source code in the past few
months.  Then yes, I'm modest to a fault.  :)

I'm not going to point any fingers but if you're
going to constantly slap the hand that assists others
in programming, the hand (or the programmer) will
learn it is not welcome.

> 
> 
> >> I'm just a Thrill-Seeker and not out to make a
> wad of dough.  :)
> Then why are you always taking about money ?

I HAVE NEVER TALKED ABOUT MONEY, bring up any of my
software and it will say I would enjoy reading a
POSTCARD.

> 
> Bye
> Dave

Dave, I don't know what you are out to do except tick
me off.  I think I have been more then generous in
sharing my sourcecode.  I have some odd quirks about
myself.  Certainly almost everyone does.  Perhaps
mine are more at the surface.

I came into this forum a few months ago hoping to
find a large collection of video game programmers.
Aside from Russell and two other people in here who
wrote some games there is no-one else.

I think I have been more then generous in sharing my
source codes especially when for the most part I can
learn NOTHING from what is already out there.

Some people have come to me in private Email that
have assisted me TREMENDOUSLY.  I would very much
like to THANK you and hope I can continue to
contribute useful code, if only for the sake of these
singular people enjoying them and learning from them
since they have taken the time and patience to
deal with me (which by itself is not very easy), and
teach me good things about GFA.

Most of my contributions are because Dale is VERY
kind and nice to me and I think Dale is kind and
nice to most everyone else in here too.

If I have any severe faults it is wanting to be LIKED
by others.  If I didn't even get this here, I would
not be contributing any code since there is precious
little code I can learn out there since there are very
few hardcore videogame writers in this GFAForum.

I have a little over 3,000 source codes for GFA
that I've downloaded and only with the patience and
expertise of Russell and a few other select people
have I been able to understand almost 10% of it.

If I am contributing useful code, source code that can
be readily understood by all, then I think I am
putting myself out rather generously since I know
there is precious little that can assist me in return.

You make my wary of the submissions I have done in
the past and make me wonder if it is worth doing so
in the future if I am to be hated for it.

I logged in today Email to be all EXCITED :)
mention I going was to write a GFAWizard.

About a 2 day project.  Maybe
a few days more since Dad is coming over to convert
some of my picture files to CD Roms so I won't lose
them.  Now I have 2nd thoughts.

Dave, what have you contributed to the group ?

I suppose you are more then welcome to find every
single fault that I have and to blatantly point them
out to me.  But they carry little weight if they are
coming from someone who has resided in the shadows
for a long time, collecting source code, and
contributing precious little in return.

I feel very grateful about the government thinking so
highly of me that it will pay me just to dabble on
the computer to my own ends.  I guess they feel that
if I'm not working for anyone, I can be very happy
indeed and work on my code and not go out on a
depression spree and try to kill myself.  They are
partially correct.  But this kind of conversation
drags me down heavily.  If this was the focus and
the purpose of this initial conversation.  You have
succeeded.

I'm a head banger and I see I need to spend a
little time at this today to lose this depression
that was given me today..

This is worsened if the fact is also that the code
has been collected quietly without a trace and being
sold as "original" software under someone else's name.

Yes I am =EXTREMELY= paranoid..

Please correct if I am wrong on this because I would
LIKE to be wrong about this.

Dale, I know what I've mentioned in here is
nothing new to you.  I am in no position to even
ASK for your assistance in this conversation.

I would like you though, to please remind that I am
useful if in a VERY small way since I seem to have
forgotten already.

Even if you lie to me, it would make me feel better.
Thanks.. (Gentle Smile)

Sincerely,
David W.

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>>>>>>
Dale, I know what I've mentioned in here is
nothing new to you.  I am in no position to even
ASK for your assistance in this conversation.
<<<<<<<

Hi David,
David, you must realize that we all have different perspectives and
different views. Also, email is a dangerous way to criticize as no one can
see your face or hear the inflections in your voice.  Are they serious or
are they smiling slightly?
I think that we all have something to contribute to each other in some way.
If it I did not receive the contributions that I do from you and most of the
programmers on this list there would not be a GFAWHELP web site nor the news
letters.  It is only through the contributions of others that these can
continue.  I really appreciate all the contributions that I receive from all
my friends. Sometimes I am amazed with what they are willing to share.
Yes, some contribute more than others,  but so what. We will never all have
the same level of programming proficiency no matter how long we program.
Money, what is money? I have spent, and still spend, hundreds of dollars on
programs to maintain the GFAWHELP web site and on HAT tools to create and
maintain the GFAWHELP and the new GB32HELP help files.  I must say I do not
regret one penny that I have spent.  My reward will never be monetary but
only the satisfaction that I receive from it.  GFA has been very supportive
but not in  financial way. I don't resent that at all.
I am not a young man but I will probably continue do this as long as health
permits. Why? Because I have become aquatinted with so many fantastic
people. I would try and name them all but it would be over 40K.  They know
who they are. I just want all of them to know that they are deeply
appreciated.   David, your name would be in that group so take a deep breath
and say - I share because I want to- help some of us become better
programmers.
Remember, God loves a cheerful giver!(G)
Keep on sharing!
Dale




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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Dale..  I do - I do appreciate you and everyone
else.  I read your letter, Dad was with me here too.
He says you're very insightful.  :)

The storm has passed.  I think back on what I
wrote this morning and it's silly I know.  I must
really be a glutton for punishment to show my face
in here.

I do see that Email has problems in tones.
I once ran chat forums years ago back on BBSs and
chatted for months on end in large groups about
religion, philosophy, science, and other deep topics.

Several times I've had people post nice things like
you do and have done in here.  But, it has a problem.
It opens you up to harm and hurt others can and will
do against you.  I also received a large number of
threatening letters because I wasn't orthodox in
my thinking or ways about science and other deep
topics.

I don't chat anymore either on the internet or BBSs
because I don't have and I dearly think I am using
this word 100% correctly, I don't have the MATURITY
to be in such talk groups, forums, or chat circles.

I am more then happy to share and contribute my
source codes to you, you guys are gonna flip over
GFAWizard, it'll have about 5 useful functions when
it's all complete, very nice !  But I will try to
release one of its more useful functions before
Saturday.  :)

...

But I do want to discontinue being in this GFAForum.

I'll spend more time on my web page and programming
and maybe less time defending myself from what is
probably not even a threat implied, correct, or
illusion of misgivings.

Dale, I am in contact with you, Russell, and several
others in private Email.  That's great, that's fine
and I will be more then happy to do so.

But I seldom realize the scope and magnitude of
a forum and how it is open to discussion, open to
criticism, and open to the cold hard face of
truth which I try to avoid quite often.  :)

Please remove me from this GFAForum mailing list,
but your newsletter is fine and great.

You really do put a lot of effort and Good Spirit into
this and you are to be congratulated and commended on
it.  I now know more and more that you have
contributed
much more then source codes, ideas, resources,
programs, utilities, and other useful GFA devices.

You have contributed your time, patience, wisdom,
and even financial backing.

You also seem to have a keen understanding of others,
especially when it is for the good of the GFATeam
and every one else.

Thank You.

Sincerely,
David W.

--- Dale Bryant <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com>
> wrote:
> 
> >>>>>>
> Dale, I know what I've mentioned in here is
> nothing new to you.  I am in no position to even
> ASK for your assistance in this conversation.
> <<<<<<<
> 
> Hi David,
> David, you must realize that we all have different
> perspectives and
> different views. Also, email is a dangerous way to
> criticize as no one can
> see your face or hear the inflections in your voice.
>  Are they serious or
> are they smiling slightly?
> I think that we all have something to contribute to
> each other in some way.
> If it I did not receive the contributions that I do
> from you and most of the
> programmers on this list there would not be a
> GFAWHELP web site nor the news
> letters.  It is only through the contributions of
> others that these can
> continue.  I really appreciate all the contributions
> that I receive from all
> my friends. Sometimes I am amazed with what they are
> willing to share.
> Yes, some contribute more than others,  but so what.
> We will never all have
> the same level of programming proficiency no matter
> how long we program.
> Money, what is money? I have spent, and still spend,
> hundreds of dollars on
> programs to maintain the GFAWHELP web site and on
> HAT tools to create and
> maintain the GFAWHELP and the new GB32HELP help
> files.  I must say I do not
> regret one penny that I have spent.  My reward will
> never be monetary but
> only the satisfaction that I receive from it.  GFA
> has been very supportive
> but not in  financial way. I don't resent that at
> all.
> I am not a young man but I will probably continue do
> this as long as health
> permits. Why? Because I have become aquatinted with
> so many fantastic
> people. I would try and name them all but it would
> be over 40K.  They know
> who they are. I just want all of them to know that
> they are deeply
> appreciated.   David, your name would be in that
> group so take a deep breath
> and say - I share because I want to- help some of us
> become better
> programmers.
> Remember, God loves a cheerful giver!(G)
> Keep on sharing!
> Dale


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Hi to all
Here Peter

I've problem with every DLL. Why "DLL-liblary not found" always when I =
try to open it.

DLL #1,"E:\A\MP3_EXPL\XAUDIO.DLL"
ENDDLL

The path is ok, dll exists but GFABASIC shows "DLL-Library not found". =
Why?
If the library is from system e.g. kernel, user all is ok.

(One thing is very ineresting - header of every DLL. If in header is: =
"This program requires Microsoft Windows" - DLL exists but when in =
header is: "This program cannot be run in DOS mode" - DLL doesn't exist. =
Why? I've XAUDIO.DLL with second header but I must use it. If you know =
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List Member MISER@LCIA.COM (Micromiser, Inc) wrote:
>List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
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>...Also, email is a dangerous way to criticize as no one can
>see your face or hear the inflections in your voice.  Are they serious or
>are they smiling slightly?

Amen. Doubly so with the language/cultural differences.

I am addicted to dry humor, insult humor, sarcastic humor. (Dave Barry, Gary
Larsen, etc.) It is a constant fight to keep it out of my written
communications and phone support. When I slip, I pay dearly. If the person
doesn't know you, they have no way of making the distinction. And adding the
<g> ruins it. 

OTOH, this is a forum for sharing information, and some criticism is a
necessary part of that. I would not want this exchange to prevent anyone
from criticizing anything I post. As long as it's honest, or at least funny.

>Remember, God loves a cheerful giver!(G)

I think you mean <G>. When the (G) is in parentheses, it means "Goober".

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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
David, I cannot unsubscribe you. You must do it your self. Why don't you
just let it rest a few days and then decide.
Dale

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> List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Dale..  I do - I do appreciate you and everyone
> else.  I read your letter, Dad was with me here too.
> He says you're very insightful.  :)
>
> The storm has passed.  I think back on what I
> wrote this morning and it's silly I know.  I must
> really be a glutton for punishment to show my face
> in here.
>
> I do see that Email has problems in tones.
> I once ran chat forums years ago back on BBSs and
> chatted for months on end in large groups about
> religion, philosophy, science, and other deep topics.
>
> Several times I've had people post nice things like
> you do and have done in here.  But, it has a problem.
> It opens you up to harm and hurt others can and will
> do against you.  I also received a large number of
> threatening letters because I wasn't orthodox in
> my thinking or ways about science and other deep
> topics.
>
> I don't chat anymore either on the internet or BBSs
> because I don't have and I dearly think I am using
> this word 100% correctly, I don't have the MATURITY
> to be in such talk groups, forums, or chat circles.
>
> I am more then happy to share and contribute my
> source codes to you, you guys are gonna flip over
> GFAWizard, it'll have about 5 useful functions when
> it's all complete, very nice !  But I will try to
> release one of its more useful functions before
> Saturday.  :)
>
> ...
>
> But I do want to discontinue being in this GFAForum.
>
> I'll spend more time on my web page and programming
> and maybe less time defending myself from what is
> probably not even a threat implied, correct, or
> illusion of misgivings.
>
> Dale, I am in contact with you, Russell, and several
> others in private Email.  That's great, that's fine
> and I will be more then happy to do so.
>
> But I seldom realize the scope and magnitude of
> a forum and how it is open to discussion, open to
> criticism, and open to the cold hard face of
> truth which I try to avoid quite often.  :)
>
> Please remove me from this GFAForum mailing list,
> but your newsletter is fine and great.
>
> You really do put a lot of effort and Good Spirit into
> this and you are to be congratulated and commended on
> it.  I now know more and more that you have
> contributed
> much more then source codes, ideas, resources,
> programs, utilities, and other useful GFA devices.
>
> You have contributed your time, patience, wisdom,
> and even financial backing.
>
> You also seem to have a keen understanding of others,
> especially when it is for the good of the GFATeam
> and every one else.
>
> Thank You.
>
> Sincerely,
> David W.
>
> --- Dale Bryant <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> > List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >>>>>>
> > Dale, I know what I've mentioned in here is
> > nothing new to you.  I am in no position to even
> > ASK for your assistance in this conversation.
> > <<<<<<<
> >
> > Hi David,
> > David, you must realize that we all have different
> > perspectives and
> > different views. Also, email is a dangerous way to
> > criticize as no one can
> > see your face or hear the inflections in your voice.
> >  Are they serious or
> > are they smiling slightly?
> > I think that we all have something to contribute to
> > each other in some way.
> > If it I did not receive the contributions that I do
> > from you and most of the
> > programmers on this list there would not be a
> > GFAWHELP web site nor the news
> > letters.  It is only through the contributions of
> > others that these can
> > continue.  I really appreciate all the contributions
> > that I receive from all
> > my friends. Sometimes I am amazed with what they are
> > willing to share.
> > Yes, some contribute more than others,  but so what.
> > We will never all have
> > the same level of programming proficiency no matter
> > how long we program.
> > Money, what is money? I have spent, and still spend,
> > hundreds of dollars on
> > programs to maintain the GFAWHELP web site and on
> > HAT tools to create and
> > maintain the GFAWHELP and the new GB32HELP help
> > files.  I must say I do not
> > regret one penny that I have spent.  My reward will
> > never be monetary but
> > only the satisfaction that I receive from it.  GFA
> > has been very supportive
> > but not in  financial way. I don't resent that at
> > all.
> > I am not a young man but I will probably continue do
> > this as long as health
> > permits. Why? Because I have become aquatinted with
> > so many fantastic
> > people. I would try and name them all but it would
> > be over 40K.  They know
> > who they are. I just want all of them to know that
> > they are deeply
> > appreciated.   David, your name would be in that
> > group so take a deep breath
> > and say - I share because I want to- help some of us
> > become better
> > programmers.
> > Remember, God loves a cheerful giver!(G)
> > Keep on sharing!
> > Dale
>
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Gee Steve, I did not know that. I have been unknowingly spreading Goobers
for years<G>

I think you mean <G>. When the (G) is in parentheses, it means "Goober".


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> List Member MISER@LCIA.COM (Micromiser, Inc) wrote:
> >List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> >
> >...Also, email is a dangerous way to criticize as no one can
> >see your face or hear the inflections in your voice.  Are they serious or
> >are they smiling slightly?
>
> Amen. Doubly so with the language/cultural differences.
>
> I am addicted to dry humor, insult humor, sarcastic humor. (Dave Barry,
Gary
> Larsen, etc.) It is a constant fight to keep it out of my written
> communications and phone support. When I slip, I pay dearly. If the person
> doesn't know you, they have no way of making the distinction. And adding
the
> <g> ruins it.
>
> OTOH, this is a forum for sharing information, and some criticism is a
> necessary part of that. I would not want this exchange to prevent anyone
> from criticizing anything I post. As long as it's honest, or at least
funny.
>
> >Remember, God loves a cheerful giver!(G)
>
> I think you mean <G>. When the (G) is in parentheses, it means "Goober".
>
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List Member MISER@LCIA.COM (Micromiser, Inc) wrote:
At 08:29 PM 5/5/00 +0200, you wrote:
>I've problem with every DLL. Why "DLL-liblary not found" always when I try
to open it.
>
>DLL #1,"E:\A\MP3_EXPL\XAUDIO.DLL"
>ENDDLL
>
Hi Peter,

  You may do better to listen to someone who knows more on the subject, but
it is my understanding the the DLL has to be in 1) the Windows directory, 2)
the System dir, 3) the default path where you load the EXE, or 4) pointed to
by the PATH statement in AUTOEXEC.BAT (not too sure about this last as I've
never done it). Then, leave the path out of the DLL statement, like "DLL
#1,XAUDIO.DLL"

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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
You are right Steve. It saves a lot of trouble if you just put them in
C:\WINDOWS or the C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM directories.
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> List Member MISER@LCIA.COM (Micromiser, Inc) wrote:
> At 08:29 PM 5/5/00 +0200, you wrote:
> >I've problem with every DLL. Why "DLL-liblary not found" always when I
try
> to open it.
> >
> >DLL #1,"E:\A\MP3_EXPL\XAUDIO.DLL"
> >ENDDLL
> >
> Hi Peter,
>
>   You may do better to listen to someone who knows more on the subject,
but
> it is my understanding the the DLL has to be in 1) the Windows directory,
2)
> the System dir, 3) the default path where you load the EXE, or 4) pointed
to
> by the PATH statement in AUTOEXEC.BAT (not too sure about this last as
I've
> never done it). Then, leave the path out of the DLL statement, like "DLL
> #1,XAUDIO.DLL"
>
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>
>>> Like Tom R.
>Do you think it is right to make that judgement ? Tom "being the quiet / shy
>person he is :-D" has made statements in this forum, but I believe he has
>the right to speak for himself on such matters.
>

TomR. went into hock (debt) to pay the 405U.S.$ JUST to trim the limitations
down to his ability to read&understand, find tidbits, etc., that could be
applied to a given situation.  Cursed by wanting to do things for which
there are no publicly-available examples, TomR. is succeeding quite well,
all givens being equal & all insurmountables being at least vaguely possible.

>
>>>I'm very poor
>Aren't we all :-( ?
>

TomR. is currently having to undergo bancruptcy to survive... what's "poor"?

>
>>> and if I were rich, I wouldn't be sharing ANY of my code with others
>anyways I'd be selling it commercially and getting MORE richer.  :P
>Are you poking your tong out or slobbering at the thought of being
>disgustingly wealthy ?
>Maybe I missed the point, but I don't understand the correlation between
>being rich and being unwilling to share. There are number of very
>knowledgable and skilled programmers on this (and the GB32 list), who (
>while not necessarily rich)  work professionally in the IT industry and are
>willing to share examples and extracts of their code, with the rest of us.
>

As poor a programmer as he is, TomR. has released to the group virtually
every routine or secret he has developed or uncovered!  FREE TO ALL!!

>
>Bye
>Dave
>

Had not so many really good GFA-W(16) programmers made available their
routines, either publicly or upon request, TomR. would have wasted his
405U.S.$!!!

Far too late to salvage TiGeR Genealogical Rescue, the satisfaction is
no less grand & beautiful... TomR can now write the much needed jpeg
display & printer in a REALLY small *.exe!  TomR. can now do MANY things
impossible to him previously.

Respectfylly,
<G>
TomR.

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>ERR$(5) says SINGLE{} Overflow... TRUE

error -005... NOT IN THE MANUALS

I found the problem by "hit & miss"... effectively renaming a file to
a name already in the dir.  Resolved by 2-stages.  rename to 100+, then 
go back & get rid of the "1".

Curious... does anybody else have the problem of Borland mixing the
IDs when compiling *.res?  My #1 image is always moved to "the end of
the line"... first becomes last!

>b$=right$(str$(1000+i&),3)+".jpg"

Probably correct, M!chael - but I've never heard anybody call me a
real programmer <G>.  Will make note of it.  Thanks!
<G>
TomR.


At 11:05 AM 05/05/00 +0200, you wrote:
>List Member Vogel Michael <vo@schoeller.at> wrote:
>ERR$(5) says SINGLE{} Overflow
>
>btw, why you're doing a such complicate code (if... then, if... then) ?
>
>b$=right$(str$(1000+i&),3)+".jpg"
> 
>    should do the whole job, or not ?
>
>Michael 
>
>> ----------
>> Von: 	Tom Record[SMTP:tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net]
>> Gesendet: 	Do, 04. Mai 2000 01:33
>> An: 	gfabasic@gfa.net
>> Betreff: 	[gfabasic] error -005
>> 
>> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> However I word this, the line w/ "***"s stops the interpretor w/ error
>> -005!
>> It *used* to work!  Has my interpretore gone SICK on me?
>> What the hell is error -005?  It isn't in my manuals.
>> <F>
>> TomR.
>> 
>> 
>> QSORT bmp$(),q&
>> FOR i& = 1 TO q&
>>   a$ = bmp$(i&)
>>   IF i& < 10 THEN b$ = "000" + STR$(b&) + ".jpg"
>>   IF i& > 9 && i& < 100 THEN b$ = "00" + STR$(b&) + ".jpg"
>>   IF i& > 99 && i& < 1000 THEN b$ = "0" + STR$(b&) + ".jpg"
>>   IF i& > 999 THEN b$ = STR$(b&) + ".jpg"
>>   PRINT bmp$(i&);"  ";a$
>>   IF EXIST(a$) THEN  RENAME a$ AS b$ **************************
>> NEXT i&
>> 
>> QSORT bmp$(),q&
>> FOR i& = 1 TO q&
>>   '  a$ = bmp$(i&)
>>   IF i& < 10 THEN b$ = "000" + STR$(b&) + ".jpg"
>>   IF i& > 9 && i& < 100 THEN b$ = "00" + STR$(b&) + ".jpg"
>>   IF i& > 99 && i& < 1000 THEN b$ = "0" + STR$(b&) + ".jpg"
>>   IF i& > 999 THEN b$ = STR$(b&) + ".jpg"
>>   PRINT bmp$(i&);"  ";a$
>>   IF EXIST(bmp$(i&)) THEN  RENAME bmp$(i&) AS b$ ******************
>> NEXT i&
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
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>List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>--- "B.M.C.S." <bmcs@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>> List Member "B.M.C.S." <bmcs@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>> Hi David,
>> 
>> >> Gee you're being AWFULLY NICE to me !
>> Well I am a nice person :-]
>
>* Let me read on..
>

I *should* let this drop, but...

David
Before you attack others, you need to understand them a bit better.
VIRTUALLY EVERY CONTRIBUTOR to this list is an accomplished, commercial
programmer.  With few exceptions, any name you see here is responsable
for considerable contribution, either on this list or in the various
collections of source code that are available to all.

Mellow out, David.  Nobody would appear to pick on you if you didn't
invite it by stiff declarations & always announcing that you could do 
it better, faster, & w/ less code - regardless of who the author was.

You have skills that we would nearly all like to learn.  That you don't
like or respect the way(s) *we* write code is aboundantly clear.  We are
engaged in writing for Windows, not DOS.  We *would* like to learn some
of the game-methods you know & would, for the most part, be glad to be
of assistance to you in learning to write for Windows.  It is a 2-way
street, friend.  Learn the rules for Windows & listen to the advice the
others give you.  We ALL want to see EVERYBODY benefit & gain.

I really don't think you will get away very long with strictly programming
for DOS in Windows - the limitations are too strict.  You can hardly live
without a mouse or trackball in Windows... it wasn't designed for it.  DOS
began life without'em & can live without'em, but NOT Windows.

Again, much of what you know can be beneficial to all of us & as a rule,
we would all gladly give you the help you need understanding GFA-W(16)
& Windows.  A little courtesy & patience will benefit you greatly.

NOBODY is out to strip you of all of your knowledge, nor do many here
ever fail to credit somebody on resolving a bad situation or obstacle.

It often falls back to comments you keep repeating about credit & money.

JOIN us, don't keep beating on us for not thinking your way.

TomR.

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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
You sweet thing. You are such an old softy. <G>
> As poor a programmer as he is, TomR. has released to the group virtually
> every routine or secret he has developed or uncovered!  FREE TO ALL
Dale Bryant
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> >
>
> TomR. is currently having to undergo bancruptcy to survive... what's
"poor"?
>
>
!!
>
>
> Had not so many really good GFA-W(16) programmers made available their
> routines, either publicly or upon request, TomR. would have wasted his
> 405U.S.$!!!
>
> Far too late to salvage TiGeR Genealogical Rescue, the satisfaction is
> no less grand & beautiful... TomR can now write the much needed jpeg
> display & printer in a REALLY small *.exe!  TomR. can now do MANY things
> impossible to him previously.
>
> Respectfylly,
> <G>
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List Member gunnar.boenicke@t-online.de (Gunnar Boenicke) wrote:

-----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net>
An: <gfabasic@gfa.net>
Gesendet: Freitag, 5. Mai 2000 21:44
Betreff: RE: [gfabasic] in over my head again


Hi Tom,

> I really don't think you will get away very long with strictly programm=
ing
> for DOS in Windows - the limitations are too strict.  You can hardly li=
ve
> without a mouse or trackball in Windows... it wasn't designed for it.  =
DOS
> began life without'em & can live without'em, but NOT Windows.
>
I think, that's not right. I'am programming now since 1982 (Atari ST), 19=
94
(GFA16) and 1999 (GFA32) and still don't use a mouse! If you make a progr=
amm
in a dos-style you can make it very quick, no mouse, no icon's, no pictur=
e
and other useless things and still use other benefits of windows. No
limitation. But that is up to you and David and all the others. It is
different style, but the style is not important, the programm must be goo=
d.

End of part one.
----
Hi everybody,

will you stop writing silly letters here. I can't even understand everyth=
ing
, I am a bloody german. Don't criticise the others, learn from the others
and help the others. I don't want to know all that SPAM!!!

I like to learn from you all, or if I can I'd like to help you. So if all=
 of
you have nothing to share with us than please shut up!!

!!!! SPAM strictly forbidden. !!!!

Sincerely yours,

Gunnar Boenicke

BTW: David, you have no reason to leave.


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List Member "Russell Hayward" <russ@softhome.net> wrote:
Hi Peter,

Firstly, I don't want to seem like a fusspot, but please don't post in HTML,
some people really don't like it. :-) Also mucks up my quoting.

>>>>>>
I've problem with every DLL. Why "DLL-library not found" always when I try
to open it.

DLL #1,"E:\A\MP3_EXPL\XAUDIO.DLL"
ENDDLL

The path is ok, dll exists but GFABASIC shows "DLL-Library not found". Why?
If the library is from system e.g. kernel, user all is ok.

(One thing is very ineresting - header of every DLL. If in header is: "This
program requires Microsoft Windows" - DLL exists but when in header is:
"This program cannot be run in DOS mode" - DLL doesn't exist. Why? I've
XAUDIO.DLL with second header but I must use it. If you know how please
help).
<<<<<<

I'm not sure, but the problem might be a 16-32 bit one. "DLL-library not
found" is always returned when you try and load a 32-bit DLL using the DLL #
command. I can't remember how to check for a DLL being 32-bit (that header
difference you found could be as good as any), you could try Quick Viewing
it and seeing what it says right up the top.

If it is 32-bit then you will have to do some thunking. If you have never
done it before then I wrote a small article about it for Dale's 16-bit
newsletter 176. It can be downloaded from http://gfawhelp.com.

HTH,
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Peter

Do you NOT declare what you want from the *.dll?
>DLL #1,"E:\A\MP3_EXPL\XAUDIO.DLL"
>ENDDLL
The DECL statements go between those two you show us.

IF you DO have your DECL statements there, then try putting the *.dll in the
same dir w/ your appl & re-word this:
>DLL #1,"E:\A\MP3_EXPL\XAUDIO.DLL"

to this:
>DLL #1,"XAUDIO.DLL"

I find that sometimes it doesn't want a full path there.
<G>
TomR.



At 08:29 PM 05/05/00 +0200, you wrote:
>Hi to all
>Here Peter
>
>I've problem with every DLL. Why "DLL-liblary not found" always when I try
to open it.
>
>DLL #1,"E:\A\MP3_EXPL\XAUDIO.DLL"
>ENDDLL
>
>The path is ok, dll exists but GFABASIC shows "DLL-Library not found". Why?
>If the library is from system e.g. kernel, user all is ok.
>
>(One thing is very ineresting - header of every DLL. If in header is: "This
program requires Microsoft Windows" - DLL exists but when in header is:
"This program cannot be run in DOS mode" - DLL doesn't exist. Why? I've
XAUDIO.DLL with second header but I must use it. If you know how please help).
>
>Best Regards
>Peter
>
>42810730@pro.onet.pl
>
>
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List Member "B.M.C.S." <bmcs@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
Hi David,

First, I would ask you PLEASE don't unsubscribe from this forum. By your own
admission you (like most of us) have much to learn, but you obviously have
skills from which others can learn. As I said previously, I have subscribed
to the GFA forum (in it's different forms) for several years. During that
time I have seen very few acrimonious or attacking exchanges between
contributors. The very few that I have seen stemmed from simple
misunderstandings.

Secondly, please don't take anything I say in this forum as some kind of
personal attack, it isn't. Contrary to the opinion you seemed to have
formed, I really AM a nice person.

Finally, this is a forum for GFA programming issues, so I will e-mail you
privately on other points you raised.

Regards,
Dave

-----Original Message-----
From:	owner-gfabasic@gfa.net [mailto:owner-gfabasic@gfa.net] On Behalf Of
David Wicker
Sent:	Saturday, May 06, 2000 4:00 AM
To:	gfabasic@gfa.net
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Dale..  I do - I do appreciate you and everyone
else.  I read your letter, Dad was with me here too.
He says you're very insightful.  :)

The storm has passed.  I think back on what I
wrote this morning and it's silly I know.  I must
really be a glutton for punishment to show my face
in here.

I do see that Email has problems in tones.
I once ran chat forums years ago back on BBSs and
chatted for months on end in large groups about
religion, philosophy, science, and other deep topics.

Several times I've had people post nice things like
you do and have done in here.  But, it has a problem.
It opens you up to harm and hurt others can and will
do against you.  I also received a large number of
threatening letters because I wasn't orthodox in
my thinking or ways about science and other deep
topics.

I don't chat anymore either on the internet or BBSs
because I don't have and I dearly think I am using
this word 100% correctly, I don't have the MATURITY
to be in such talk groups, forums, or chat circles.

I am more then happy to share and contribute my
source codes to you, you guys are gonna flip over
GFAWizard, it'll have about 5 useful functions when
it's all complete, very nice !  But I will try to
release one of its more useful functions before
Saturday.  :)

...

But I do want to discontinue being in this GFAForum.

I'll spend more time on my web page and programming
and maybe less time defending myself from what is
probably not even a threat implied, correct, or
illusion of misgivings.

Dale, I am in contact with you, Russell, and several
others in private Email.  That's great, that's fine
and I will be more then happy to do so.

But I seldom realize the scope and magnitude of
a forum and how it is open to discussion, open to
criticism, and open to the cold hard face of
truth which I try to avoid quite often.  :)

Please remove me from this GFAForum mailing list,
but your newsletter is fine and great.

You really do put a lot of effort and Good Spirit into
this and you are to be congratulated and commended on
it.  I now know more and more that you have
contributed
much more then source codes, ideas, resources,
programs, utilities, and other useful GFA devices.

You have contributed your time, patience, wisdom,
and even financial backing.

You also seem to have a keen understanding of others,
especially when it is for the good of the GFATeam
and every one else.

Thank You.

Sincerely,
David W.

--- Dale Bryant <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com>
> wrote:
>
> >>>>>>
> Dale, I know what I've mentioned in here is
> nothing new to you.  I am in no position to even
> ASK for your assistance in this conversation.
> <<<<<<<
>
> Hi David,
> David, you must realize that we all have different
> perspectives and
> different views. Also, email is a dangerous way to
> criticize as no one can
> see your face or hear the inflections in your voice.
>  Are they serious or
> are they smiling slightly?
> I think that we all have something to contribute to
> each other in some way.
> If it I did not receive the contributions that I do
> from you and most of the
> programmers on this list there would not be a
> GFAWHELP web site nor the news
> letters.  It is only through the contributions of
> others that these can
> continue.  I really appreciate all the contributions
> that I receive from all
> my friends. Sometimes I am amazed with what they are
> willing to share.
> Yes, some contribute more than others,  but so what.
> We will never all have
> the same level of programming proficiency no matter
> how long we program.
> Money, what is money? I have spent, and still spend,
> hundreds of dollars on
> programs to maintain the GFAWHELP web site and on
> HAT tools to create and
> maintain the GFAWHELP and the new GB32HELP help
> files.  I must say I do not
> regret one penny that I have spent.  My reward will
> never be monetary but
> only the satisfaction that I receive from it.  GFA
> has been very supportive
> but not in  financial way. I don't resent that at
> all.
> I am not a young man but I will probably continue do
> this as long as health
> permits. Why? Because I have become aquatinted with
> so many fantastic
> people. I would try and name them all but it would
> be over 40K.  They know
> who they are. I just want all of them to know that
> they are deeply
> appreciated.   David, your name would be in that
> group so take a deep breath
> and say - I share because I want to- help some of us
> become better
> programmers.
> Remember, God loves a cheerful giver!(G)
> Keep on sharing!
> Dale


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List Member "B.M.C.S." <bmcs@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
Tom,

You put it in a nutshell.

In particular: "JOIN us, don't keep beating on us for not thinking your
way."

Regards,
Dave B

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
At 07:31 AM 05/05/00 -0700, you wrote:
>List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>--- "B.M.C.S." <bmcs@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>> List Member "B.M.C.S." <bmcs@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>> Hi David,
>>
>> >> Gee you're being AWFULLY NICE to me !
>> Well I am a nice person :-]
>
>* Let me read on..
>

I *should* let this drop, but...

David
Before you attack others, you need to understand them a bit better.
VIRTUALLY EVERY CONTRIBUTOR to this list is an accomplished, commercial
programmer.  With few exceptions, any name you see here is responsable
for considerable contribution, either on this list or in the various
collections of source code that are available to all.

Mellow out, David.  Nobody would appear to pick on you if you didn't
invite it by stiff declarations & always announcing that you could do
it better, faster, & w/ less code - regardless of who the author was.

You have skills that we would nearly all like to learn.  That you don't
like or respect the way(s) *we* write code is aboundantly clear.  We are
engaged in writing for Windows, not DOS.  We *would* like to learn some
of the game-methods you know & would, for the most part, be glad to be
of assistance to you in learning to write for Windows.  It is a 2-way
street, friend.  Learn the rules for Windows & listen to the advice the
others give you.  We ALL want to see EVERYBODY benefit & gain.

I really don't think you will get away very long with strictly programming
for DOS in Windows - the limitations are too strict.  You can hardly live
without a mouse or trackball in Windows... it wasn't designed for it.  DOS
began life without'em & can live without'em, but NOT Windows.

Again, much of what you know can be beneficial to all of us & as a rule,
we would all gladly give you the help you need understanding GFA-W(16)
& Windows.  A little courtesy & patience will benefit you greatly.

NOBODY is out to strip you of all of your knowledge, nor do many here
ever fail to credit somebody on resolving a bad situation or obstacle.

It often falls back to comments you keep repeating about credit & money.

JOIN us, don't keep beating on us for not thinking your way.

TomR.

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
If anybody considers this discussion to be "SPAM", just delete this.

IF my understanding that Windows cannot easily be navigated using only
the keyboard is so wrong, then I ask forgiveness for my stupidity!  ALL 
that I have ever read on the subject indicates otherwise.  I WILL confess 
that I have an extreme revulsion to "keyboarding" as in DOS.  DOS is on my 
PCs for only one reason... Windows won't run without it!

I have a friend from another programming language that says trying to read
& understand GFA-W(16) source makes her want to vomit.  Well, folks, doing
everything w/ the keyboard instead of the mouse smacks so deeply of DOS
that I feel like vomiting if I'm running a Windows appl.  I even change:
KEYGET k%
to:
DO
UNTIL MOUSEX & 2
in others' examples - for *MY* convenience, I'll admit.

I *can* "keyboard" in DOS, but avoid it like the plague!  I do NOTHING in
DOS I can avoid.  ALMOST the only thing I do willingly is to delete a file
that for some reason Windows won't!

I don't understand that friend's problem w/ GFA-W(16) source... she programs
in PASCAL & OBERON2, which is based on PASCAL.  She also plays w/ 32-bit LCC!

We each have our own bug-a-boos.  BUT...  Why should we allow them to get in
the way of learning more about what we all seem to be so passionate about?

For David

Stick around & teach us *your* methods.. we're very eager to learn.  NOBODY is
going to steal you blind.  We'll also try to help you learn *our* methods,
but please... don't respond every time that you can do it quicker w/ less
code - the tone normally ruffles feathers automatically.  Instead, go ahead
& write it in less code & post it as an alternative way to do something.  We
would ALL like to do things simpler & quicker.  I can't brashly say all do,
but *I* keep ALL of these snippets & refer to them when I am trying to do
something new & remember that someone posted something on it (or similar).

Frankly, I would like to use your char8 in place of a splash screen or "About",
but would need to re-write it into a dialog for some uses.  I would also like
to be able to add some TT fonts to it that I prefer to your blocky style.  It
is OK for many things, but... why else are new fonts written except for variety
& preference?  The IDEA of char8 is outa this world!  It takes a good mind to
write that sort of thing!

You can easily get "tit for tat", just be patient & put the whiplash down.  I
am really a "good one" for saying "have patience" <G>.  I am accustomed to 
being the "sole provider", the only "do-er"; now being reduced to a "lump"
seated at a computer producing NO income is teaching me hellacious "patience"
left & right.  I've driven all over a good part of the free world, but now
cannot drive... I'm reduced to arranging anything I want or must do around
my wife's work schedual & I have to ask her to drive.  I've gone from being
"the provider" to a REAL "dependant"!

I'm not "poor"... I'm simply flat broke!  I'm extremely "rich" in memories
& experiences!  I've made hotdogs for a king, hamburgers for Moslims &
Hindis, was a vital part of the Lunar Lander project at NASA & still have
electronic instruments in use in the oil fields of Sumatra & South American
Universities.  No, my only "poor" is physical condition.
<G>
TomR.

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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
This is well said. Let's not deal in personalities.

***********************************
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will you stop writing silly letters here. I can't even understand everything
, I am a bloody german. Don't criticise the others, learn from the others
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List Member "B.M.C.S." <bmcs@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
Hi Dale,

Agreed

Regards
Dave B


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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Greets:

What took me only 15 minutes to type out was done
with an almost automatic and fluid manner which
spoke more of the writing inside of me then myself
reflected in any of the writing and perhaps a long
overdue course of events that my pen had written
years before it had come into contact with my hand.

I have been gone so long today because Dad messed up
my computer proper !  :)  I couldn't get back to
read my Email until I manually reinstalled all of
Windows 98 again.  Took a-while..

The message follows
- - -
There is a lot to read in here now..

I have had an interesting day where my conscious
mind constantly fought with me in itself to resolve
some of the conflicts within myself.

It is said that in the greatest of difficulties
the most difficult and attainable knowledge can be
found.  Wisdom.

Rose is not coming to visit on the weekend and
perhaps it is just as well.

My Dad he copied over my pix & musix
files to the CD, while he did, I finished
writing half of GFAWizard.

In it uses MENUs and other strange contrivances
that I normally would not use.  But, save all
my GUI work for GameDev, pan out a bit and
be more tolerant and accepting of what Win98
provides several dozen GUI devices.  In just a
few programming lines in GFAWiz, I accomplished
what would take at least 50 custom programming
lines by writing my own GUI.

I had a little over 6000 pictures and I very
carefully spent a great deal of time over
them crunching, cropping, splicing, editing,
enhancing, lightening, darkening, and otherwise
manipulating them to a level to meet my standards
of < 32k.  The total for all my pictures I've
crunched was just a little over 137 megabytes.

I am - disappointed with myself because I set
such a harsh standard.  That just barely takes
1/5 of an entire CD !  There are so many files
I felt I had to delete because I could not get
them "right"  I regret - I regret not setting
a more relaxed standard for me keeping pictures
for their clarity, quality, and artistic nature.

Perhaps it is the same in here..

Perhaps all I do need is a little time, to think,
to reflect..  My memory is so poor on people's
faces in here that I scarcely know many of the
good people who have assisted me in the past,
who have helped me through difficult parts,
and who have had enough faith in me to succeed
where others might fail.

Tom B. from Microsoft came to visit for lunch today.
He's going to marry my sister in September so I had
better get used to him.  :)

He used this difficulty, this misunderstanding in
Email
as a wedge he so delightfully had waited for.
He leaned into me like a mack truck.  Convinced
me in so many hundred words why I should not share,
why I should drop everything, why I should sell,
make money, capitalize, copyright, enforce, restrict,
authorize, and dominate.

They keywords DAVID YOU ARE SO STUPID TO GIVE AWAY
YOUR SOFTWARE said to me over and over again..
. . .

There is a curious state a programmer can enter
when they decide they do not want to make money
with their software, but they would like to be
recognized if even in a small way.  This singular
act of registering software seems almost silly in its
way but if looked at more closely one can see the
mechanics behind it.

It is not Freeware, Shareware, Crippleware, Nagware,
Demoware, or Timeware.  There are many programmers
(having researched a bit on the net today I found)
that hold high very strong and very religious beliefs
to this manner of developing software and sharing its
greater secrets..

It is given in the written word, the time and patience
one has to spend less then 5 minutes in one day of
their entire life to acknowledge that there is
something that was written well.  Well enough they
would spend those 5 minutes in one day out of an
entire lifetime to send a greeting of sorts from
halfway around the world or further, to delight in the
visual splendor one can achieve with one's own eyes
and imagination.

It is a present of perhaps the very best kind one
can receive from anyone that lives in the furthest
and most remote of areas.  It is a way to share some
of that culture, some of that lifestyle, and some of
the magic that encompasses within the life of the
sender that they lead in this land unknown to the
programmer or sorceror as he/she could be called.

It is an assurance to the sorceror that what they
have written is good and well, and is not empty words,
that there is an actual meaning and impact behind it.
It separates out the lurkers from the actives, the
unknown from the acquaintances.  And the strangers
from the friends.

It is a message that tells the sorceror that there
life is not a complete waste, it is a music that
sings to them that perhaps they do fit in with others.
Of being acknowledged and recognized and not hated or
feared.

I see now why many programmers mostly artistic ones
want this.  They are not out to make a mint.  They
are not out to have their picture on the front page
of every newspaper and magazine.  They are not out
to usurp the power from other companies or in any
way to belittle them.

Through all of this, the persons reading this message
right now, throughout the trials of their life, and
beyond, they push aside their petty differences,
their uncaring desires, and empty promises.  Stand
up from which and where they have sat so long.

Travel from their home to a place of barter and trade
where shining tapestries and colorful images, some
serenely beautiful while others tongue-in-cheek humor
await to be sent to those not living in this unique
land.

The glossy talisman is purchased in coins of the
realm for a small amount.  Upon returning home,
a seal is affixed to it, not so dissimilar to a wax
seal in days of old.  Rough hewn calligraphic marks
are etched into the talisman stating the sorcery they
admired and would like to see the magic behind the
spell.

The talisman is then either carried off to a large
recepticle with similar devices or left outside their
door where it can be received and delivered properly.

They take less then 5 minutes out of their entire
lifetime to make one saving grace, to make one
motion of movement that is sent through all the miles
of its traveling.

The message is warmly received by the Sorceror who
is elated at having actually received SOMETHING for
the work that they have done and rush immediately to
the Great Computer through the magic of Email, send
to them the ingredients needed for the incantation
that the sender was so interested in as well as one
very GOOD SINCERE HONEST "THANK YOU !!"

They are delighted and hold very close to them that
which was given to them.  That which acknowledges
at least ONE degree of meaning and worth in their
lives.

It is called Postcardware, and has been practiced
by quite a few programmers for several years
now long before the internet took place.

They do not feel the hesitation, reluctance,
or biting fear that pervades them by posting the
ingredients and arcanic runes to their spells blindly.
They grow bitter and resentful, wanting more and more
words to be spoken because the single act of receiving
something that is tangible,
something that is physical, something that they can
actually grasp between their thumb and forefinger,
a certificate stating their worth in the community,
this cannot be achieved merely in the act of visual
language from one computer to the next.

This cannot be achieved through printed screen
words and sentences alone.  There are no dynamic
mechanics or perfect solutions to persaude and
dissaude
a programmer to acknowledge their worth in society
except by physically leaving the intangible
surrealistic and artificial atmosphere of what we call
the Computer walk over to their physical corporeal
opaque mailbox and receive within it a card that is
approximately 4 inches across by 6 inches long.

This card will have been marked several places by
postmasters.  And if you listen very closely, you can
hear the stories of where this postcard has been.
You can see the sights and sounds of just how far and
how incredible a journey it was for this postcard to
arrive within their hands.

To achieve this announcement of Postcardware
correctly,
I must not single out anyone.  Not Dale, Russell, or
anyone.  No-one will have predominance or escape the
mechanics behind this curious invocation.  In this it
is completely fair and perhaps worth more to the
Sorceror to have received one of these incredible
cards from someone they have already come to
acknowledge to themselves as a good friend.

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member MISER@LCIA.COM (Micromiser, Inc) wrote:
>List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>I have a friend from another programming language that says trying to read
>& understand GFA-W(16) source makes her want to vomit.
>I don't understand that friend's problem w/ GFA-W(16) source... she programs
>in PASCAL & OBERON2, which is based on PASCAL.  She also plays w/ 32-bit LCC!
>
Fear. PASCAL was developed for programming students too stupid to write
large programs in BASIC. Professors put a lot of fears into their heads,
e.g. that BASIC programmers train their dogs to attack on the word PASCAL,
etc. So PASCAL is a "strongly typed" language (i.e. lots and lots and lots
of typing). Things like A%=B/C can send them into a catatonic state.
(Where's the remainder? Does it exist? Will I go there when I die? etc.) Try
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
In GFANL178 Pat Bullman has an excellent tutorial on GFA strings
Want to receive the news letter. Send email to
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List Member MISER@LCIA.COM (Micromiser, Inc) wrote:
>List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
>He leaned into me like a mack truck.  Convinced
>me in so many hundred words why I should not share,
>why I should drop everything, why I should sell,
>make money, capitalize, copyright, enforce, restrict,
>authorize, and dominate.
>
>They keywords DAVID YOU ARE SO STUPID TO GIVE AWAY
>YOUR SOFTWARE said to me over and over again..
>. . .
Hi Dave,

I think your friend is giving you bad advice. Since the code we are talking
about is specific to GFA, it rests on the assumption that other GFA
programmers in this group are competing with you for GFA programming jobs,
or that their commercial projects writtin in GFA are competing with your
commercial GFA projects. While I imagine that situation exists all over the
Microsoft employment world, and perhaps in your previous jobs, I don't think
it exists anywhere in this group.

I am not chanllenging you or anything you said. I am only challenging your
friend. I would like him, not you, to give me one example to the contrary,
and I'll be proved wrong. Who is the GFA employer? What commercial project
does he think you are selling, or intending to sell, and who in this list
does he think is selling or planning to sell a competing product?

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
@2:08p.m. A marvelous start for the day <GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG>
Saydee would NOT consider you one of her love objects, Steve <GGG>.
<G>
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At 01:27 PM 06/05/00 -0400, you wrote:
>List Member MISER@LCIA.COM (Micromiser, Inc) wrote:
>>List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>>I have a friend from another programming language that says trying to read
>>& understand GFA-W(16) source makes her want to vomit.
>>I don't understand that friend's problem w/ GFA-W(16) source... she programs
>>in PASCAL & OBERON2, which is based on PASCAL.  She also plays w/ 32-bit LCC!
>>
>Fear. PASCAL was developed for programming students too stupid to write
>large programs in BASIC. Professors put a lot of fears into their heads,
>e.g. that BASIC programmers train their dogs to attack on the word PASCAL,
>etc. So PASCAL is a "strongly typed" language (i.e. lots and lots and lots
>of typing). Things like A%=B/C can send them into a catatonic state.
>(Where's the remainder? Does it exist? Will I go there when I die? etc.) Try
>putting Saydee in another room.
>
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Steve
Tom B. can't help himself.  Consider his employer.  What browser wants to
eliminate DOS, take command & control of Windows, & be the ONLY browser to
be used with Windows?  Who's employer is under fire by the feds for attempting
to gain a monopoly on PCs?

Tom B. & DavidW. are two sides of the same coin (or, possibly two *different*
coins altogether).  I fear I'd have to choose DavidW.'s side or coin every
time without giving it any thought!  If you give, you get.  I always thought.
<G>
TomR.

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>List Member MISER@LCIA.COM (Micromiser, Inc) wrote:
>>List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>He leaned into me like a mack truck.  Convinced
>>me in so many hundred words why I should not share,
>>why I should drop everything, why I should sell,
>>make money, capitalize, copyright, enforce, restrict,
>>authorize, and dominate.
>>
>>They keywords DAVID YOU ARE SO STUPID TO GIVE AWAY
>>YOUR SOFTWARE said to me over and over again..
>>. . .
>Hi Dave,
>
>I think your friend is giving you bad advice. Since the code we are talking
>about is specific to GFA, it rests on the assumption that other GFA
>programmers in this group are competing with you for GFA programming jobs,
>or that their commercial projects writtin in GFA are competing with your
>commercial GFA projects. While I imagine that situation exists all over the
>Microsoft employment world, and perhaps in your previous jobs, I don't think
>it exists anywhere in this group.
>
>I am not chanllenging you or anything you said. I am only challenging your
>friend. I would like him, not you, to give me one example to the contrary,
>and I'll be proved wrong. Who is the GFA employer? What commercial project
>does he think you are selling, or intending to sell, and who in this list
>does he think is selling or planning to sell a competing product?
>
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
I'd like to get some stuff on strings Dale I'm
all ways having to make my own !

Yah I'm in good spirits but all trembly cause I
hadn't slept since yesterday been all busy !

Ahhm..  I don't know how to say this.
Last night, I wrote my own PKZIP program ??  :)

It crunches the bitmap logo of GFAWizard down
71% ??  From 120886 bytes to 36230 bytes !

It also encrypts the HECK out of it cause I'm
sorting patterns in it and stuff ??  :)

I'm gonna post a demo, Dad said I should sell this
and have Tom B. help me do so.

I can't believe I wrote my own file compressor ??

I thought it was pretty hard but you find patterns
in stuff, make like those a pattern pictures with
colors in your head and giving each picture a little #
from 0 to 255.

It works !!

Dad said not anyone can do this cause I'm good with
math !  (Feeling proud!)  :)

It crunches 8-bit bitmaps with no bitmap compression
flag set best but also crunches text & stuff.
Try it and see:

File to compress:
gfawiz.bmp

File to save as:
compress.dat

>plinka plinka< Gee this computer is slow !

All done !

gfawiz.bmp = 120886 bytes
compress.dat = 36234 bytes
Savings = 70% neato !
[enclosed]

- - -

Okay very SERIOUS error in GFABasic:
This program will not work:

Let's say "Hello.TXT" exists

PRINT @HowBig("Hello.TXT")
FUNCTION HowBig(F$)
  LOCAL L
  IF EXIST(F$)
    OPEN "i",1,F$
    L = LOF(#1)
    CLOSE #1
  ENDIF
  RETURN L
ENDFUNC

If you run it, it will say
No such file or directory,
if you debugging it one line at a time,
it only comes to this realization when
you hit the RETURN L statement, =NOT=
the OPEN statement.

To fix it change the:

PRINT @HowBig("Hello.TXT")

to:

A=@HowBig("Hello.TXT")
PRINT A

As near as I could trace it down, you cannot
use PRINT in any function if the function opens any
files.  Took me almost 2 hours to track this nasty
little GFA error down or I woulda posted my
BITMAP Compressor earlier !

I don't know if this error will NOT show up on
computers that don't have this LAN card thingie in
which Dad installed on my computer so we can transfer
files easier next time.  Please let me know if
the above program where it uses

PRINT @HowBig("Hello.TXT")

works.  If it doesn't work, aren't ya glad I found
this nasty bug !

Hope This Helps !

Sincerely,
David W.

I'm going to have LUNCH now I'm starving since
yesterday !  :)

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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
UPDATE GFA 16 on the GFAWHELP WEB SITE
DLL5CODE by Bev Brown
Eleven (11) routines to use in your own programs.
supports long file names

Dale Bryant
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Well I see the GFAForum thought it was too big
a file to put in here.  It's 33k so maybe too big.

Can download it here.

http://www.geocities.com/dw817/gfa/myzip.zip

Sincerely,
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
David
If you can handle the long ordeal involved in marketing something new that
will directly compete w/ existing appls, GIVE'ER HELL!

I *think* it would be better to publish it as a $LNKable *.lib, but even as
a *.dll would be better than an *.exe.

I would try to be one of your first customers on either *.lib or *.dll.  The
*.lib would be my first choice since I wouldn't have to pack anything extra
along, but even a *.dll is better than an *.exe.

You might check w/ Eberhard or Roland on this, but I *think* you can produce
a *.lib using wgen.exe by including a line at the beginning something like:
$LNK Exe davidw.lib
Then use calls similar to those for a *.dll to use it in a compiled appl.

As an *.exe, you should add commandline capability to it so it can be used
by a RUN or EXEC statement with a path & filename in, compress or decompress
switch & a path & filename out.

I *think* the rest of the gang will readily join me in wishing you all the
possible success & best wishes.

Go for it, Hoss - I'll sit back here & recall that I "knew you when" <G>.

I've been trying to adapt your byte8to7 with little success (it has a 32K 
limit in a GFA-W(16) PROCEDURE).  Of course, I tried it out on something
a fair bit larger <G>.  Messing w/ it tho, I realized that the *principle*
meant more that all the rest.  I'm playing w/ the idea of including my
own logo in an *.scr so it will load & display while the minijpeg.lib is
busy loading the *.jpg images.  Rather than handling it as an image, it
appears better to simply include it as DATA, which will load into SETPIXEL()
& be drawn that way.  It's quick enough since it's relatively small.  If I
want to put it back onscreen, I can GET it & store it in memory until I 
want to flash it onscreen again w/ STRETCH.  I've done this already with
other images.  You are wakeing my brain up again - thanks.
<G>
TomR.

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Greets Dave:

--- "B.M.C.S." <bmcs@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
> List Member "B.M.C.S." <bmcs@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
> Hi David,
> 
> First, I would ask you PLEASE don't unsubscribe from
> this forum. By your own
> admission you (like most of us) have much to learn,
> but you obviously have
> skills from which others can learn. As I said
> previously, I have subscribed
> to the GFA forum (in it's different forms) for
> several years. During that
> time I have seen very few acrimonious or attacking
> exchanges between
> contributors. The very few that I have seen stemmed
> from simple
> misunderstandings.

Dave, a lot has happened in my head.  I guess a lot
still is.  I think - I think understanding sometimes
understanding anything is a type of surrender in
itself.  I'm tired, I guess with reason to be.
I haven't really slept for 2 days now working on
mindless little bitmap compressor to keep my
mind off things that are disturbing me.

I have come to terms with myself and it's at a
level of language and comprehension that speaks
outside of me, not within me.  My future self is
painted in so many different colors then I had
originally planned.  When you're young and
full of curiosity, I guess we paint ourselves
in the future as a great leader or general,
or some other important person.  Perhaps a
benevolent dictator a grand magician, or
superhero.  But I never thought I would see
myself painted the way the outside has spoken
to me in the past few days.

The jagged craggy indentations perforated
through my body seem only to have their
dryness eased by my own tears.  I see -
I see so much now in the future BECAUSE
THE FUTURE IS NOW - and I have entered it
fully unprepared, and I am an unwelcome sight
for it I can see that now.

My time has passed, my innocence lost,
my youth is spent, and my curiosity has been
sated which is perhaps the most painful thing
of all.

Dave, it is not your fault and I certainly
hope it isn't mine  :)  that has caused this
little conversation to take such a bad turn.

I think whenever I get the slightest bit miffed
I take a 180 degree nose dive straight into the
black hole of depression and that's not good,
and it's getting worse.

But I have noticed that I have layered myself
in much the same way as a coccoon with flights
of fancy, fantasy, fantastic, faeries, fables,
frivolous, furry, and fun.  That I scarcely
know the person that is inside this coccoon
anymore.  I look all around me and I realize
just how much I don't know of anything at all.
And there is an illness inside of me that says,
it doesn't matter, I don't need to know, which
is causing me very deep rooted depression and
sorrow as I write this.  I never - I have never
felt the need to NOT to want to know something
simply because it DOESN'T MATTER.. ??

I see Dad tomorrow.  He all ways said to
let him know how I feel every day cause
he worries I guess from the tests back from
EEG and stuff.  Also dad says I got a bad
brain from Mom cause she was REALLY on the
deep end like all the time.  But all so she very
artistic, musical, and intelligent.

Which I guess is why I have
the freedom to dabble on the computer too
and get paid disability at my age for the
rest of my life if I allow it ??

Well right now I feeling like the meds I took
an hour ago aren't helping, and the deep
rooted pit of depression is chewing away at
me.  I got 2 get some sleep..

They only have 2 flavors of pudding when you're
in the hospital.  Chocolate and Vanilla.
If you want Strawberry, stay out of the hospital
cause you can't get it there.  :)

Sincerely,
David W.

> 
> Secondly, please don't take anything I say in this
> forum as some kind of
> personal attack, it isn't. Contrary to the opinion
> you seemed to have
> formed, I really AM a nice person.
> 
> Finally, this is a forum for GFA programming issues,
> so I will e-mail you
> privately on other points you raised.
> 
> Regards,
> Dave


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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
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Morning Tom !

Well, it's the morning after the storm.
In case you hadn't figured it out, I'm
Schizo-Affective, that is, my mood goes all
crazy, ESPECIALLY if I don't take my meds on
time like I'm supposed to WHICH I didn't do
cause I lost track of time doodling on
that compressor.

--- Tom Record
<tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> David
> If you can handle the long ordeal involved in
> marketing something new that
> will directly compete w/ existing appls, GIVE'ER
> HELL!

Ahh the hell with it.  I have such a wooden
taste in my mouth (even copper taste from pennies
would be good - no it's a wooden taste) from
all the Wooden Nickles I've made selling software.

It's postcardware.  It's got some really screwball
things in it that I did when I ran out of meds
to I guess protect stuff in it.  Crazy.  I'll
post it on my homepage as Postcardware unless
DAD & TOM B. can give me a good reason why
not to !  :)
> 
> I *think* it would be better to publish it as a
> $LNKable *.lib, but even as
> a *.dll would be better than an *.exe.

I don't know this DLL stuff !
Gives me a head ache like I don't all ready
have one from staying up 2 days yesterday.  :/
> 
> I would try to be one of your first customers on
> either *.lib or *.dll.  The
> *.lib would be my first choice since I wouldn't have
> to pack anything extra
> along, but even a *.dll is better than an *.exe.

I guess it's really that good then ??
Thanks.  I know, I'm fishing for compliments,
but when that devil depression hits me from the
mania I feel like worse then dirt and the tiniest
little cheer-me-up does pull me out cause I
bounce around like a yo-yo.

Usually I call up Dad and he says just a few
nice words and pulls me out instantly.  He's
gotta lotta patience for putting up with me.  :)
> 
> You might check w/ Eberhard or Roland on this, but I
> *think* you can produce
> a *.lib using wgen.exe by including a line at the
> beginning something like:
> $LNK Exe davidw.lib
> Then use calls similar to those for a *.dll to use
> it in a compiled appl.
> 
> As an *.exe, you should add commandline capability
> to it so it can be used
> by a RUN or EXEC statement with a path & filename
> in, compress or decompress
> switch & a path & filename out.
> 
> I *think* the rest of the gang will readily join me
> in wishing you all the
> possible success & best wishes.

Really that good ??  (Big Smile!)
You know I never really learned to program,
play the piano, write stories and stuff.  It's
just inside ya know.  And I got better about
doing stuff cause my parents would say GOOD JOB.
Dad was really keen on the stuff I wrote on the
computer so it was a kinna DAILY AttaBoy which
REALLY started to reinforce.  aaaand computers
don't yell and scream at you when you make an
error.  They have a lot more patience with me
then most people.

Okay as Bugs Bunny would say,
"Ooooooh.  What a night!
 I'll never mix Carrot juice with Radish juice again!"
 :)

To see what this Postcardware stuff is all about
I'm sending you pre-release of my homepage.
I'm not happy with it yet, but it's getting
there.
[enclosed]

I'm also gonna break out my index.htm to little
sub-module .htms.  I'm like the =ONLY= person that
crammed every thing in one page aaand even if it
makes sense to me, Dad says it's a little confusing
and kind of ahhm..  Not friendly ?

I'd like your opinion on this please !  :)
And if you need the pictures to it so you can
see what's all going around in it, lemme know
and I'll send you a copy of those too.

Sincerely,
David W.
> 
> Go for it, Hoss - I'll sit back here & recall that I
> "knew you when" <G>.
> 
> I've been trying to adapt your byte8to7 with little
> success (it has a 32K 
> limit in a GFA-W(16) PROCEDURE).  Of course, I tried
> it out on something
> a fair bit larger <G>.  Messing w/ it tho, I
> realized that the *principle*
> meant more that all the rest.  I'm playing w/ the
> idea of including my
> own logo in an *.scr so it will load & display while
> the minijpeg.lib is
> busy loading the *.jpg images.  Rather than handling
> it as an image, it
> appears better to simply include it as DATA, which
> will load into SETPIXEL()
> & be drawn that way.  It's quick enough since it's
> relatively small.  If I
> want to put it back onscreen, I can GET it & store
> it in memory until I 
> want to flash it onscreen again w/ STRETCH.  I've
> done this already with
> other images.  You are wakeing my brain up again -
> thanks.
> <G>
> TomR.
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Yah the meds finaly kicked in.
Sorry Dave if I went out on a limb !
Staying awake for 2 days and waiting 2 hours
past the time I was supposed to take them kinna
impairs my brain !

I read what I writing the day before
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
DATA - line length 240 char MAX!
DATA statements are limited to a max of 32K chars total!

A 470x80 *.bmp @ 8-bit is 37.9K   Converted to "DATA" statements pixel 
by pixel makes a file of 439K!!!  For some reason, there are a TON of
white pixels written into it, but they don't exist!  GETPIXEL() doesn't
do well for *this* idea!

Back to the !@#^%$#@!! drawingboard!

Cleaned out the extra white... using 0 to width-1 & 0 to height-1.  I
got it down to 400K!  Beginning to look like the whole idea sucks mud!
Could use stringtables, I guess, but the overall size is still too big!

!@#$%%^^&**((**&^%^$#@#@!!  Tried adapting John's GIF to use a *.gif
version of the logo image, but can't get it to get past the compiler.
Doesn't like several things about setting up w/ a *.res file & it's
8 o'clock Sunday morning here.  I give up!  I'm starting to hate the 
whole project!

I'm off to bed... the hell w/ all of this for now!
<F>
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi Tom:

--- Tom Record
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> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> DATA - line length 240 char MAX!

* I coulda told you that !  I making use of that
  space all the time.  :)

> DATA statements are limited to a max of 32K chars
> total!

Really ??  I'll have to check that cause sometime
I may feed something really biggo into 8BitTo7.

> 
> A 470x80 *.bmp @ 8-bit is 37.9K   Converted to
> "DATA" statements pixel 
> by pixel makes a file of 439K!!!  For some reason,
> there are a TON of
> white pixels written into it, but they don't exist! 
> GETPIXEL() doesn't
> do well for *this* idea!

* If you don't want to use 8BitTo7, you can also make
  your own source code making stuff where a 0 (zero)
  is less space then anything !  Here's how !

DATA 6,,7

* What does this do ??
  Nono..  It's not an error, it works !
  It reads 6 then 0 (zero) then 7.
  Some of my earlier file.EXE it is going to be
  data now converted over used this technique.
  Take advantage of GFA's limitations
  (or expansions how ever you wanna look at it!)

> 
> Back to the !@#^%$#@!! drawingboard!
> 
> Cleaned out the extra white... using 0 to width-1 &
> 0 to height-1.  I
> got it down to 400K!  Beginning to look like the
> whole idea sucks mud!
> Could use stringtables, I guess, but the overall
> size is still too big!

String tables are tricky stuff !  Since they're
hardware screen dependent, make the strings at least
4 characters per pixel to cover every body that is
now they have a better monitor at 32 bits.

I decided if I ever used strings for GETing images
I'd give them 4 bytes a pixel.

> 
> !@#$%%^^&**((**&^%^$#@#@!!  Tried adapting John's
> GIF to use a *.gif
> version of the logo image, but can't get it to get
> past the compiler.

Although I dropped it, I STILL think the internet
shoulda gone the way of Prodigy from years ago.
Prodigy was too cool !  They didn't use GIFs,
BMPs, or JPGs !  They used VECTORS !  Maaaaaan
you could have a biggo menu board with lots of
splash fire, flare, color, and detail in about
200 bytes complete with Anime figures, you name it !

I dunno why the internet hasn't done this today.
Since my Bit8To7 thingie works pretty good for my
logo screens.  I'm using it, but I've still got a
.GIF to vector convertor I could dabble on.

That would turn any .GIF into mere bytes !
Neat stuff, but it'd be a lot of work to finish it
now..

> Doesn't like several things about setting up w/ a
> *.res file & it's
> 8 o'clock Sunday morning here.  I give up!  I'm
> starting to hate the 
> whole project!
> 
> I'm off to bed... the hell w/ all of this for now!
> <F>
> TomR.

Don't work too hard at it !  I feel tons better
but I shouldn't have eaten ALL the rice pudding last
nite !!  I prolly gone to slosh when I walk now !  :)

Sincerely,
David W.


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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Okay folks, this is a nice useful little utility to
make use of John's idea on it is using a LN procedure
to Line Number your source code.  It's very good,
has many options, and makes it much easier to write
your own debugger routine if you gotta push/pull
stack stuff, do it as the first line in ErrFound.

CTRL-G GOES to a line # so you can tap that when
if/when an error occurs so you're sorta near where
the error happened.

I'm gonna add other functions to it later so it can
really be a good GFA friend to help in coding.

Hope This Helps !
[enclosed]

Sincerely,
David W.

Yah not even gonna fight this mini forum space stuff !
Get it right here !  :)

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List Member MISER@LCIA.COM (Micromiser, Inc) wrote:
>List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>DATA - line length 240 char MAX!
>DATA statements are limited to a max of 32K chars total!
>
Hi Tom,

Maximum literal stings = 64K.

Talk about sharing. Thanks for telling us about the data statement limits.
Capacities and Limits must be the most super-secret info about this or any
programming language. It comes at such a high price - which you just paid.

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List Member MISER@LCIA.COM (Micromiser, Inc) wrote:
     GFA CAPACITIES & LIMITS
     -----------------------

Corrections and additions welcome. Approximations/guesses better than
nothing. Please add items that would have a limit even if you don't know the
limit.

Code block size                   32K  (main code or procedure)
Max procedures in one source file ???
Max procedures to be compiled     ???
Editor file size                  64K lines (file size ???)
Literal Strings                   64K
Variable name space               ???
Variable name length              ???
Maximum EXE size                  ???
Max $ABIG arrays                  ???
Max $ABIG array size              ???
Max $ABIG index value             Product of indeces < 16K
Number of named variables
  Local                           ??? (as local heap permits?)
  Global                          ???
Data statements
  Number                          ???
  Max line                        240
  Total size                      32K
Max functions in DLL list         ???
Max parameters in DLL call        ???

Some Windows capacities & limits
--------------------------------

Edittext                          32K
List box                          32K (lines?)
MessageBox                        ???

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi Steve:

I could adding that you if now you have
a line that is very big, like 240 characters
and you cut & paste, well it double spaces which
you can fix with the [DEL] button, but
worse inserts a nasty block character on the end
which must manually be removed !

When inserting code from 8BitTo7, save it as a
textfile first and use MERGE instead of CUT &
PASTE from one GFA interpreter window to the
other.

Hope This Helps !

Sincerely,
David W.

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>      GFA CAPACITIES & LIMITS
>      -----------------------
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> Corrections and additions welcome.
> Approximations/guesses better than
> nothing. Please add items that would have a limit
> even if you don't know the
> limit.
> 
> Code block size                   32K  (main code or
> procedure)
> Max procedures in one source file ???
> Max procedures to be compiled     ???
> Editor file size                  64K lines (file
> size ???)
> Literal Strings                   64K
> Variable name space               ???
> Variable name length              ???
> Maximum EXE size                  ???
> Max $ABIG arrays                  ???
> Max $ABIG array size              ???
> Max $ABIG index value             Product of indeces
> < 16K
> Number of named variables
>   Local                           ??? (as local heap
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>   Global                          ???
> Data statements
>   Number                          ???
>   Max line                        240
>   Total size                      32K
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> Max parameters in DLL call        ???
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> Some Windows capacities & limits
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> Edittext                          32K
> List box                          32K (lines?)
> MessageBox                        ???
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
David
There are only a few differences between an *.exe & a *.dll.  Since the
compression gizmo doesn't return anything when run, it should be easy to
make a *.dll of it - just set it up to receive in & out paths & do-undo
switch.  Each PROCEDURE in it needs to return it's name - nothing else.

The only thing I've figured out about bit8to7 is that I can't use it.
At least, NOT to carry a logo.bmp - FAR too damned big.  I'll have to 
go back & use the codecs on it.

A wood taste is one small tad better than mud <G>.

Anybody ever tell you that one "Oh Hell" wipes out 375 "Atta Boys"?

Cheer up!  That's an order! <GGGGGGGGGGG>
<G>
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At 05:58 AM 07/05/00 -0700, you wrote:
>Morning Tom !
>
>Well, it's the morning after the storm.
>In case you hadn't figured it out, I'm
>Schizo-Affective, that is, my mood goes all
>crazy, ESPECIALLY if I don't take my meds on
>time like I'm supposed to WHICH I didn't do
>cause I lost track of time doodling on
>that compressor.
>
>--- Tom Record
><tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> List Member Tom Record
>> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> David
>> If you can handle the long ordeal involved in
>> marketing something new that
>> will directly compete w/ existing appls, GIVE'ER
>> HELL!
>
>Ahh the hell with it.  I have such a wooden
>taste in my mouth (even copper taste from pennies
>would be good - no it's a wooden taste) from
>all the Wooden Nickles I've made selling software.
>
>It's postcardware.  It's got some really screwball
>things in it that I did when I ran out of meds
>to I guess protect stuff in it.  Crazy.  I'll
>post it on my homepage as Postcardware unless
>DAD & TOM B. can give me a good reason why
>not to !  :)
>> 
>> I *think* it would be better to publish it as a
>> $LNKable *.lib, but even as
>> a *.dll would be better than an *.exe.
>
>I don't know this DLL stuff !
>Gives me a head ache like I don't all ready
>have one from staying up 2 days yesterday.  :/
>> 
>> I would try to be one of your first customers on
>> either *.lib or *.dll.  The
>> *.lib would be my first choice since I wouldn't have
>> to pack anything extra
>> along, but even a *.dll is better than an *.exe.
>
>I guess it's really that good then ??
>Thanks.  I know, I'm fishing for compliments,
>but when that devil depression hits me from the
>mania I feel like worse then dirt and the tiniest
>little cheer-me-up does pull me out cause I
>bounce around like a yo-yo.
>
>Usually I call up Dad and he says just a few
>nice words and pulls me out instantly.  He's
>gotta lotta patience for putting up with me.  :)
>> 
>> You might check w/ Eberhard or Roland on this, but I
>> *think* you can produce
>> a *.lib using wgen.exe by including a line at the
>> beginning something like:
>> $LNK Exe davidw.lib
>> Then use calls similar to those for a *.dll to use
>> it in a compiled appl.
>> 
>> As an *.exe, you should add commandline capability
>> to it so it can be used
>> by a RUN or EXEC statement with a path & filename
>> in, compress or decompress
>> switch & a path & filename out.
>> 
>> I *think* the rest of the gang will readily join me
>> in wishing you all the
>> possible success & best wishes.
>
>Really that good ??  (Big Smile!)
>You know I never really learned to program,
>play the piano, write stories and stuff.  It's
>just inside ya know.  And I got better about
>doing stuff cause my parents would say GOOD JOB.
>Dad was really keen on the stuff I wrote on the
>computer so it was a kinna DAILY AttaBoy which
>REALLY started to reinforce.  aaaand computers
>don't yell and scream at you when you make an
>error.  They have a lot more patience with me
>then most people.
>
>Okay as Bugs Bunny would say,
>"Ooooooh.  What a night!
> I'll never mix Carrot juice with Radish juice again!"
> :)
>
>To see what this Postcardware stuff is all about
>I'm sending you pre-release of my homepage.
>I'm not happy with it yet, but it's getting
>there.
>[enclosed]
>
>I'm also gonna break out my index.htm to little
>sub-module .htms.  I'm like the =ONLY= person that
>crammed every thing in one page aaand even if it
>makes sense to me, Dad says it's a little confusing
>and kind of ahhm..  Not friendly ?
>
>I'd like your opinion on this please !  :)
>And if you need the pictures to it so you can
>see what's all going around in it, lemme know
>and I'll send you a copy of those too.
>
>Sincerely,
>David W.
>> 
>> Go for it, Hoss - I'll sit back here & recall that I
>> "knew you when" <G>.
>> 
>> I've been trying to adapt your byte8to7 with little
>> success (it has a 32K 
>> limit in a GFA-W(16) PROCEDURE).  Of course, I tried
>> it out on something
>> a fair bit larger <G>.  Messing w/ it tho, I
>> realized that the *principle*
>> meant more that all the rest.  I'm playing w/ the
>> idea of including my
>> own logo in an *.scr so it will load & display while
>> the minijpeg.lib is
>> busy loading the *.jpg images.  Rather than handling
>> it as an image, it
>> appears better to simply include it as DATA, which
>> will load into SETPIXEL()
>> & be drawn that way.  It's quick enough since it's
>> relatively small.  If I
>> want to put it back onscreen, I can GET it & store
>> it in memory until I 
>> want to flash it onscreen again w/ STRETCH.  I've
>> done this already with
>> other images.  You are wakeing my brain up again -
>> thanks.
>> <G>
>> TomR.
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Steve
Donno about "literal"... it snorts & bucks on anything longer than 32K
here at *my* end.  The error it spits says nothing over 32K will fly.

Anyway, 400K is adding far too much to it for me.  The whole saver, using
about 25 thumbs is under 200K.  Sixe REALLY mounts when it carries images
of 50K or more.  These are often fullscreen - at least at 640x480.  I've
built in a stretch factor to make things fit other display settings.

I guess I'll fall back on the Codecs.
<G>
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>>DATA statements are limited to a max of 32K chars total!
>>
>Hi Tom,
>
>Maximum literal stings = 64K.
>
>Talk about sharing. Thanks for telling us about the data statement limits.
>Capacities and Limits must be the most super-secret info about this or any
>programming language. It comes at such a high price - which you just paid.
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>List Member MISER@LCIA.COM (Micromiser, Inc) wrote:
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>Corrections and additions welcome. Approximations/guesses better than
>nothing. Please add items that would have a limit even if you don't know the
>limit.
>
>Code block size                   32K  (main code or procedure)
>Max procedures in one source file ???
>Max procedures to be compiled     ???
>Editor file size                  64K lines (file size ???)
>Literal Strings                   64K
>Variable name space               ???
>Variable name length              ???
>Maximum EXE size                  ???
>Max $ABIG arrays                  ???
>Max $ABIG array size              ???
>Max $ABIG index value             Product of indeces < 16K
>Number of named variables
>  Local                           ??? (as local heap permits?)
>  Global                          ???
>Data statements
>  Number                          ???
>  Max line                        240
>  Total size                      32K
>Max functions in DLL list         ???
>Max parameters in DLL call        ???
>
>Some Windows capacities & limits
>--------------------------------
>
>Edittext                          32K
>List box                          32K (lines?)  Lines!  String length *may*
be around 255 bytes.  That's a bunch!
>MessageBox                        ???           8, I *think*!
>
Normal window as text editor.......Seems to be just under 64K.  If >, 
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List Member MISER@LCIA.COM (Micromiser, Inc) wrote:
>List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>Donno about "literal"... it snorts & bucks on anything longer than 32K
>here at *my* end.  The error it spits says nothing over 32K will fly.
Hi Tom,

I meant storing binary data in strings like A$(400)="adljaljdflkjdsf" etc. I
thought you had mentioned that as an alternative to DATA statements. So I
mentioned that the max for such string data is 64K. Adding that to 32K in
DATA statements, seems the most binary data you can store in a GFA module is
64K+32K.

How are you doing your DATA statements, numbers or strings? DATA 1,2,3 or
DATA adsflkjadskfjdsf etc.

A week or two ago someone posted some resource about storing binary (string)
data as a resource file. I investigated that one time, didn't get far. I
know it can be done, didn't need to do it that bad. You've done a lot more
with resource files than I have.

If you've got any file other than the main .EXE in the distribution, then
you can tack binary data to the end, then pop it off and store it in a
Global block. Of course you know that. Somebody mentioned it also here a few
weeks ago.

Just thinking out loud.

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Steve
Forgive - am in a stuper... I fair no better than DavidW w/o sleep.
DATA r1$,g1$,b1$,r2$,g2$,b2$,etc....  Length of each line cannot
exceed 240 chars, INCLUDING "DATA " & the commas.  DATA cannot exceed
a total of 32K, regardless.  The smallest number I can get by reducing
the logo to this is 400K.  MUCH too big, since I can Codec-smash it to
7.29K.  Could go smaller by using Intel5, but must go back to a 24-bit
image to do that.  Wouldn't be all that much smaller, even then.  A
*.jpg has too much artifact - that format doesn't like large fields of
solid color.  Am attempting to load a Codec image from a *.res.  The 
object is to keep as close to just one file as possible for now.

Eventually, images will all go into a *.dll.  The handling instructions
will be in there, also - as stringtables.  That way, one *.exe can run
as *any* matching screensaver... only the *.res *.dll will be different.

Since the minijpeg.lib is slow as hell on large images, I wanted to get
the logo onscreen before starting to load the bigger images.  The *.lib
is like a flash of lightning on 1/4-screen or smaller images.

I'm faced w/ another problem conserning website selection.  Those that
handle "Adult" stuff have download limits of 170-200K.  I got a notice
today from one that they've dropped the limit to 200K & well delete any
& all files on their servers larger than that.  150K to 300K is a pretty
stable range for *.scrs using thumbs & only 1 or 2 large images.  Go all
large, & you're crowding 1Meg.  Put 25 to 40 large images in it & it is
well beyond 2Megs.  I can split'em down to stay within the limits, but
that means a downloader must make several passes to get the whole thing.

I'm off to bed - I hope.  4:20 afternoon.
<G>
TomR.


At 04:50 PM 07/05/00 -0400, you wrote:
>List Member MISER@LCIA.COM (Micromiser, Inc) wrote:
>>List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>>Donno about "literal"... it snorts & bucks on anything longer than 32K
>>here at *my* end.  The error it spits says nothing over 32K will fly.
>Hi Tom,
>
>I meant storing binary data in strings like A$(400)="adljaljdflkjdsf" etc. I
>thought you had mentioned that as an alternative to DATA statements. So I
>mentioned that the max for such string data is 64K. Adding that to 32K in
>DATA statements, seems the most binary data you can store in a GFA module is
>64K+32K.
>
>How are you doing your DATA statements, numbers or strings? DATA 1,2,3 or
>DATA adsflkjadskfjdsf etc.
>
>A week or two ago someone posted some resource about storing binary (string)
>data as a resource file. I investigated that one time, didn't get far. I
>know it can be done, didn't need to do it that bad. You've done a lot more
>with resource files than I have.
>
>If you've got any file other than the main .EXE in the distribution, then
>you can tack binary data to the end, then pop it off and store it in a
>Global block. Of course you know that. Somebody mentioned it also here a few
>weeks ago.
>
>Just thinking out loud.
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
I had to read near the end first.
* * > Cheer up!  That's an order! <GGGGGGGGGGG>

Thanks Tom !  (Big Smile!)

Okay,
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> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> David
> There are only a few differences between an *.exe &
> a *.dll.  Since the
> compression gizmo doesn't return anything when run,
> it should be easy to
> make a *.dll of it - just set it up to receive in &
> out paths & do-undo
> switch.  Each PROCEDURE in it needs to return it's
> name - nothing else.

Okay Tom..  I thought about it thought about it
until my puzzler was sore.  :)  How about this..

If you can write me all the fixings of a .DLL where
I can insert the routines you want, and then you
need to be sure it WILL compile in my compiler,
can make some DLLs that way.

My Bit8To7 is giving you some trouble ?
You really must like it to have spent such time
with it !  :)  Okay, let me look at it myself.
I've got a makeshift new one I've been using but
haven't posted that's a snip faster and I think
allows unlimited space.

> 
> The only thing I've figured out about bit8to7 is
> that I can't use it.
> At least, NOT to carry a logo.bmp - FAR too damned
> big.  I'll have to 
> go back & use the codecs on it.

Remember Tom, you are not REQUIRED by law to include
all of your bitmap pictures & stuff inside your
one and only .DLL or .EXE.  Yah I know that
European Demo stuff you just sit there and say
ooooooooooh !!  As it runs.  :)  But they're a bunch
of hackers from Switzerland and stuff and they
specialize in making single .EXEs that cause
your speakers to dance along with your monitor.

I know I'm kinna proud I can stuff a picture inside
my .EXE and do it pretty often.  Tom, I'm pretty
good with crunching pictures, like at least 10
years worth of experience !  :)  If you like and
wanna send it, I won't take it or run off with it,
lor I got over 6000 pictures already unless your
logo is Sailor Moon in her Birthday Suit I'll just
crunch it and return it.  (Smile)

Look at my logo for Orbs of Ankhar to see that I
really do have all the pictures and everything I
need for stuff so I won't run off with yours.
> 
> A wood taste is one small tad better than mud <G>.

Yah, that mud's gotta tadpole or two in it, and
if you're real lucky some good ol' mucky seaweed.
(All Together Now) Ewwwwww !!  :)
> 
> Anybody ever tell you that one "Oh Hell" wipes out
> 375 "Atta Boys"?

Yah my Dr. schedules a visit twice a month with me,
he makes darned sure I'm taking those anti-depress
pills, and we talking a lot.  He says I've been given
free time for my life cause he and I guess lots other
people wanna see what I do with my life ??
> 
> Cheer up!  That's an order! <GGGGGGGGGGG>

Yes Sir !  (raises stiffly and salutes klicking
heels together true Style !  :)

Sincerely,
David W.



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I had to read near the end first.
* * > Cheer up!  That's an order! <GGGGGGGGGGG>

Thanks Tom !  (Big Smile!)

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> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> David
> There are only a few differences between an *.exe &
> a *.dll.  Since the
> compression gizmo doesn't return anything when run,
> it should be easy to
> make a *.dll of it - just set it up to receive in &
> out paths & do-undo
> switch.  Each PROCEDURE in it needs to return it's
> name - nothing else.

Okay Tom..  I thought about it thought about it
until my puzzler was sore.  :)  How about this..

If you can write me all the fixings of a .DLL where
I can insert the routines you want, and then you
need to be sure it WILL compile in my compiler,
can make some DLLs that way.

My Bit8To7 is giving you some trouble ?
You really must like it to have spent such time
with it !  :)  Okay, let me look at it myself.
I've got a makeshift new one I've been using but
haven't posted that's a snip faster and I think
allows unlimited space.

> 
> The only thing I've figured out about bit8to7 is
> that I can't use it.
> At least, NOT to carry a logo.bmp - FAR too damned
> big.  I'll have to 
> go back & use the codecs on it.

Remember Tom, you are not REQUIRED by law to include
all of your bitmap pictures & stuff inside your
one and only .DLL or .EXE.  Yah I know that
European Demo stuff you just sit there and say
ooooooooooh !!  As it runs.  :)  But they're a bunch
of hackers from Switzerland and stuff and they
specialize in making single .EXEs that cause
your speakers to dance along with your monitor.

I know I'm kinna proud I can stuff a picture inside
my .EXE and do it pretty often.  Tom, I'm pretty
good with crunching pictures, like at least 10
years worth of experience !  :)  If you like and
wanna send it, I won't take it or run off with it,
lor I got over 6000 pictures already unless your
logo is Sailor Moon in her Birthday Suit I'll just
crunch it and return it.  (Smile)

Look at my logo for Orbs of Ankhar to see that I
really do have all the pictures and everything I
need for stuff so I won't run off with yours.
> 
> A wood taste is one small tad better than mud <G>.

Yah, that mud's gotta tadpole or two in it, and
if you're real lucky some good ol' mucky seaweed.
(All Together Now) Ewwwwww !!  :)
> 
> Anybody ever tell you that one "Oh Hell" wipes out
> 375 "Atta Boys"?

Yah my Dr. schedules a visit twice a month with me,
he makes darned sure I'm taking those anti-depress
pills, and we talking a lot.  He says I've been given
free time for my life cause he and I guess lots other
people wanna see what I do with my life ??
> 
> Cheer up!  That's an order! <GGGGGGGGGGG>

Yes Sir !  (raises stiffly and salutes klicking
heels together true Style !  :)

Sincerely,
David W.


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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:


--- Dale Bryant <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
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> Dale Bryant
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> adbryant@gfa.net

Thanks Dale..  I know that may not be making
much sense now, but if I'm going PostcardWare
it has to be for the duration.

Since I carry the actual sources I MAY maybe perhaps
get another postcard.  I've only received one in my
entire life of programming so far and that's from
Susan who my Dad & Mom wanted me to marry so she
could live in the US !  :P

Yah I made a boondle of money when I wrote stuff
for Apple ][+ .  But there were problems with that
too.  I'm gone to link YOUR very good GFA Page
to mine.  Is it just me or is it really HARD to
find the GFA16 Basic on the main company's
GFA page ??  I'll allow it for download from my
page along with a few instructs to get the menus
in English.

Thanks again Dale !

I know you are having to work hard at this stuff so
I'll put together an easy package of new stuff to
replace that.  I all ready have it set up for
upload to my page, and some of it is new stuff
you've never seen before.  :)

Annnd as Jack Horkheimer would say,
"Keep Looking Up To The Stars!"

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Okay you two !  I've got some info that might help..

Try out this program.

DEFINT "A-Z"
DIM A$(99)
FOR I = 0 TO 99
  A$(I) = STRING$(32760," ")
NEXT I

Yep !  It runs just fine which shows you can
have OODLES of data space =IF= you need it !

Oh and it's 32760 max characters per string,
exactly, not one character more.  :)

Tom, you are welcome to use strings like this
if you want.

I didn't know DATA was so limited !!
Let me play with it a bit cause I'm gonna
want to put at least up to 128k files in
Bit8To7 eventually for neato games & stuff.

Since I'm going Postcardware, I'll go to write
Tika's Cards VERY nice and a postcard will send
the source of Tika's Cards to whomever wants it !

I feel much better about this arrangement,
thanks Dale !  :)

Sincerely,
David W.

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> >Donno about "literal"... it snorts & bucks on
> anything longer than 32K
> >here at *my* end.  The error it spits says nothing
> over 32K will fly.
> Hi Tom,
> 
> I meant storing binary data in strings like
> A$(400)="adljaljdflkjdsf" etc. I
> thought you had mentioned that as an alternative to
> DATA statements. So I
> mentioned that the max for such string data is 64K.
> Adding that to 32K in
> DATA statements, seems the most binary data you can
> store in a GFA module is
> 64K+32K.
> 
> How are you doing your DATA statements, numbers or
> strings? DATA 1,2,3 or
> DATA adsflkjadskfjdsf etc.
> 
> A week or two ago someone posted some resource about
> storing binary (string)
> data as a resource file. I investigated that one
> time, didn't get far. I
> know it can be done, didn't need to do it that bad.
> You've done a lot more
> with resource files than I have.
> 
> If you've got any file other than the main .EXE in
> the distribution, then
> you can tack binary data to the end, then pop it off
> and store it in a
> Global block. Of course you know that. Somebody
> mentioned it also here a few
> weeks ago.
> 
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Tom, I think you're right.
I think you're really REALLY right..

Tried it a few ways:

+ 2500 DATA lines separated every 100 steps
       by a null procedure, out of memory
+ 2500 A$(N) lines separated every 100 steps
       by a null procedure, out of heap space
+ 2500 PRINT#1, "" lines separated every 100 steps
       by a null procedure, out of FAR space

Okay, there's a definite pattern here !
I guess I need to get cracking and make a gizzymo
that piggybacks data on the end of a .EXE !

That'll be some work but THEN I can have
REALLY BIG LOVELY anime screens for logos !  :)

It will need to allow data separations too
so I will want to check for that.

Let's see, 2 ^ 8 = 256, 2 ^ 16 = 65536
2 ^ 32 = 4,294,967,296 so that's about a
billion combinations, easy as pie, okay,
one more bigger 2 ^ 64, hard to follow !
soooo let's try need 2 ^ 64 for a cross-key index
JUST to be on the safe side.  Certainly
that chance of raw data entering as part
of actual inside coding is like impossible ??  :)

Tom, it can be done but it'll be slower then
dirt.  Did you want me to try it ?

Sincerely,
David W.


--- Tom Record
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> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Steve
> Forgive - am in a stuper... I fair no better than
> DavidW w/o sleep.
> DATA r1$,g1$,b1$,r2$,g2$,b2$,etc....  Length of each
> line cannot
> exceed 240 chars, INCLUDING "DATA " & the commas. 
> DATA cannot exceed
> a total of 32K, regardless.  The smallest number I
> can get by reducing
> the logo to this is 400K.  MUCH too big, since I can
> Codec-smash it to
> 7.29K.  Could go smaller by using Intel5, but must
> go back to a 24-bit
> image to do that.  Wouldn't be all that much
> smaller, even then.  A
> *.jpg has too much artifact - that format doesn't
> like large fields of
> solid color.  Am attempting to load a Codec image
> from a *.res.  The 
> object is to keep as close to just one file as
> possible for now.
> 
> Eventually, images will all go into a *.dll.  The
> handling instructions
> will be in there, also - as stringtables.  That way,
> one *.exe can run
> as *any* matching screensaver... only the *.res
> *.dll will be different.
> 
> Since the minijpeg.lib is slow as hell on large
> images, I wanted to get
> the logo onscreen before starting to load the bigger
> images.  The *.lib
> is like a flash of lightning on 1/4-screen or
> smaller images.
> 
> I'm faced w/ another problem conserning website
> selection.  Those that
> handle "Adult" stuff have download limits of
> 170-200K.  I got a notice
> today from one that they've dropped the limit to
> 200K & well delete any
> & all files on their servers larger than that.  150K
> to 300K is a pretty
> stable range for *.scrs using thumbs & only 1 or 2
> large images.  Go all
> large, & you're crowding 1Meg.  Put 25 to 40 large
> images in it & it is
> well beyond 2Megs.  I can split'em down to stay
> within the limits, but
> that means a downloader must make several passes to
> get the whole thing.
> 
> I'm off to bed - I hope.  4:20 afternoon.
> <G>
> TomR.
> 
> 
> At 04:50 PM 07/05/00 -0400, you wrote:
> >List Member MISER@LCIA.COM (Micromiser, Inc) wrote:
> >>List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> >>Donno about "literal"... it snorts & bucks on
> anything longer than 32K
> >>here at *my* end.  The error it spits says nothing
> over 32K will fly.
> >Hi Tom,
> >
> >I meant storing binary data in strings like
> A$(400)="adljaljdflkjdsf" etc. I
> >thought you had mentioned that as an alternative to
> DATA statements. So I
> >mentioned that the max for such string data is 64K.
> Adding that to 32K in
> >DATA statements, seems the most binary data you can
> store in a GFA module is
> >64K+32K.
> >
> >How are you doing your DATA statements, numbers or
> strings? DATA 1,2,3 or
> >DATA adsflkjadskfjdsf etc.
> >
> >A week or two ago someone posted some resource
> about storing binary (string)
> >data as a resource file. I investigated that one
> time, didn't get far. I
> >know it can be done, didn't need to do it that bad.
> You've done a lot more
> >with resource files than I have.
> >
> >If you've got any file other than the main .EXE in
> the distribution, then
> >you can tack binary data to the end, then pop it
> off and store it in a
> >Global block. Of course you know that. Somebody
> mentioned it also here a few
> >weeks ago.
> >
> >Just thinking out loud.
> >
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
David
I don't reckon it's worth the effort to push this any further.  The idea of
carrying an image *in* the *.exe as DATA or a series of strings isn't a bit
practical - it would cause the filesize to skyrocket well beyond the moon.

The sole benefit now will be that all can see some of the limitations we
face.
<G>
TomR.



At 06:32 PM 07/05/00 -0700, you wrote:
>List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Tom, I think you're right.
>I think you're really REALLY right..
>
>Tried it a few ways:
>
>+ 2500 DATA lines separated every 100 steps
>       by a null procedure, out of memory
>+ 2500 A$(N) lines separated every 100 steps
>       by a null procedure, out of heap space
>+ 2500 PRINT#1, "" lines separated every 100 steps
>       by a null procedure, out of FAR space
>
>Okay, there's a definite pattern here !
>I guess I need to get cracking and make a gizzymo
>that piggybacks data on the end of a .EXE !
>
>That'll be some work but THEN I can have
>REALLY BIG LOVELY anime screens for logos !  :)
>
>It will need to allow data separations too
>so I will want to check for that.
>
>Let's see, 2 ^ 8 = 256, 2 ^ 16 = 65536
>2 ^ 32 = 4,294,967,296 so that's about a
>billion combinations, easy as pie, okay,
>one more bigger 2 ^ 64, hard to follow !
>soooo let's try need 2 ^ 64 for a cross-key index
>JUST to be on the safe side.  Certainly
>that chance of raw data entering as part
>of actual inside coding is like impossible ??  :)
>
>Tom, it can be done but it'll be slower then
>dirt.  Did you want me to try it ?
>
>Sincerely,
>David W.
>
>
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>> List Member Tom Record
>> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> Steve
>> Forgive - am in a stuper... I fair no better than
>> DavidW w/o sleep.
>> DATA r1$,g1$,b1$,r2$,g2$,b2$,etc....  Length of each
>> line cannot
>> exceed 240 chars, INCLUDING "DATA " & the commas. 
>> DATA cannot exceed
>> a total of 32K, regardless.  The smallest number I
>> can get by reducing
>> the logo to this is 400K.  MUCH too big, since I can
>> Codec-smash it to
>> 7.29K.  Could go smaller by using Intel5, but must
>> go back to a 24-bit
>> image to do that.  Wouldn't be all that much
>> smaller, even then.  A
>> *.jpg has too much artifact - that format doesn't
>> like large fields of
>> solid color.  Am attempting to load a Codec image
>> from a *.res.  The 
>> object is to keep as close to just one file as
>> possible for now.
>> 
>> Eventually, images will all go into a *.dll.  The
>> handling instructions
>> will be in there, also - as stringtables.  That way,
>> one *.exe can run
>> as *any* matching screensaver... only the *.res
>> *.dll will be different.
>> 
>> Since the minijpeg.lib is slow as hell on large
>> images, I wanted to get
>> the logo onscreen before starting to load the bigger
>> images.  The *.lib
>> is like a flash of lightning on 1/4-screen or
>> smaller images.
>> 
>> I'm faced w/ another problem conserning website
>> selection.  Those that
>> handle "Adult" stuff have download limits of
>> 170-200K.  I got a notice
>> today from one that they've dropped the limit to
>> 200K & well delete any
>> & all files on their servers larger than that.  150K
>> to 300K is a pretty
>> stable range for *.scrs using thumbs & only 1 or 2
>> large images.  Go all
>> large, & you're crowding 1Meg.  Put 25 to 40 large
>> images in it & it is
>> well beyond 2Megs.  I can split'em down to stay
>> within the limits, but
>> that means a downloader must make several passes to
>> get the whole thing.
>> 
>> I'm off to bed - I hope.  4:20 afternoon.
>> <G>
>> TomR.
>> 
>> 
>> At 04:50 PM 07/05/00 -0400, you wrote:
>> >List Member MISER@LCIA.COM (Micromiser, Inc) wrote:
>> >>List Member Tom Record
>> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> >>Donno about "literal"... it snorts & bucks on
>> anything longer than 32K
>> >>here at *my* end.  The error it spits says nothing
>> over 32K will fly.
>> >Hi Tom,
>> >
>> >I meant storing binary data in strings like
>> A$(400)="adljaljdflkjdsf" etc. I
>> >thought you had mentioned that as an alternative to
>> DATA statements. So I
>> >mentioned that the max for such string data is 64K.
>> Adding that to 32K in
>> >DATA statements, seems the most binary data you can
>> store in a GFA module is
>> >64K+32K.
>> >
>> >How are you doing your DATA statements, numbers or
>> strings? DATA 1,2,3 or
>> >DATA adsflkjadskfjdsf etc.
>> >
>> >A week or two ago someone posted some resource
>> about storing binary (string)
>> >data as a resource file. I investigated that one
>> time, didn't get far. I
>> >know it can be done, didn't need to do it that bad.
>> You've done a lot more
>> >with resource files than I have.
>> >
>> >If you've got any file other than the main .EXE in
>> the distribution, then
>> >you can tack binary data to the end, then pop it
>> off and store it in a
>> >Global block. Of course you know that. Somebody
>> mentioned it also here a few
>> >weeks ago.
>> >
>> >Just thinking out loud.
>> >
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Nono Tom..

You wouldn't actually stuff a buncha biggo
file at the end.  Ya PKZIP 'em !  :)

Soo like for Tika's Cards:
+ System.BMP
+ Card.WAV
+ Giggle.WAV
+ GameBG.MID
+ NoFair.WAV
+ WonGame.MID
+ LostGame.MID

See all this stuff can REALLY be packed
heavily as individual PKZIP files on the tip
tail end of the file.

If you're REALLY good and knowing what you
do, you can reorganizing and add/subtract
files on the end so you can save config &
stuff all over the place !

Naturally, you use PKLITE BEFORE you merge
the data stuffings on the end.

Aaaaaand since they're PKZIPed, they're not
gonna get much smaller !

Your final .EXE might compress 5-6%
with PKZIP for the final package !

See !! You just gotta think about it Tom !  ^o^

Yah I'm all excited bout it too, but lemme finish
my homepage first !  It's aready 10pm at nite and
I haven't had lunch yet !  :)

If I do write this, I'll make it a Honors
Postcardware, that is, I'll upload it to Dale
for public sourcecode
but if you use my routine longer then 15 days,
you are required by law to send a postcard or
delete it otherwise cause you are violating my
copyright.

Silly right ??  But I'm looking on the net
and seeing other programmers are doing this too !

Lor' I might really got some awfully OFFENSIVE
postcards with that rule !  (Hehehe...)

Sincerely,
David W.

> List Member Tom Record
> David
> I don't reckon it's worth the effort to push this
> any further.  The idea of
> carrying an image *in* the *.exe as DATA or a series
> of strings isn't a bit
> practical - it would cause the filesize to skyrocket
> well beyond the moon.
> 
> The sole benefit now will be that all can see some
> of the limitations we
> face.
> <G>
> TomR.


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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi !  Yep, I'm up awake and going strong !  :)

I'm trying to find some good pictures to finish
up my webpage and occasionally I'll come across
some that have like a 100 (one hundred) pictures
in them.

Can someone recommend a good web-page-muncher
program for Internet Explorer ?

It would see a web-page and anything on it,
would take out, might do recursions might do
if you're in a sorta FTP like if you're on
a toyshop's page, you back out to their
picture index (where you're not supposed to be!) :)
and it shows several .GIF files like in a disk
directory..

Like this: hit [CTRL]-L and type out:
http://www.japantoy.com/sm3/photo/

instead of what they want you to see which is
http://www.japantoy.com/sm3/index.htm

It looks sorta like this..

Index of /sm3/photo
 Name                    Last modified       Size 
Description
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Parent Directory        17-Apr-2000 07:10      -  
 2wand.gif               06-Jun-1998 20:12    12k  
 4bow.gif                11-Jun-1998 00:02    10k  
 4clip.gif               08-Jun-1998 14:46    11k  
 ..
 4key.gif                06-Jun-1998 20:12    15k  
 etc. (add another hundred .GIF pictures!)

You can get that display on people's pages if you
read the sourcecode and just jump directly to
where their loading their pictures from.

Me I protect myself from it but even biggo companies
don't seem to know about this.  :)

Please Let Me Know cause I'd like to see what toys
they've got without going thru all their .htm
files manually, Thanks !

Sincerely,
David W.

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[Pat Bullman discusses GFA Strings - Pay attention.]

The Good Old Basic String

Strings, - they are the widely used in just about all applications.
There's very little that can be done without them. So the way in which a
language deals with strings often has a big impact on the way in which
applications can be developed using that language.

One of the reasons behind the success of the BASIC language has been its
strength in dealing with strings. You can, with just any old string
variable, have something that can hold one byte of data, or tens of
thousands of bytes. No memory management issues, no declaring the
variables and trying to guess what length of string would eventually be
required. A simple a$ = "Whatever I want" was all that was needed.

GFA Basic also has good string management capabilities, but there are some
subtle differences between GFA and other basics and also between the
Interpreter and Compiler. As far as I can tell, these only really make a
difference when passing strings to FUNCTIONS or PROCEDURES.

Variable passed to a Procedure (Functions are exactly the same) in GFA are
treated as 'LOCAL' variables. That is, any changes made to variables are
not carried back to the calling routine. This type of action is usually
known as "pass by value" - only the value of the variable, not its address,
is passed. Most languages, however, use the "pass by reference" method.
This passes the variables address and means that any changes made to the
variable are carried back to calling routine. GFA will operate this way if
you use the VAR keyword [as in @MyProc(VAR ThisString$)].

OK, what does this mean and, well, who cares? In answering that let's have
a look at what goes on, at a very low processing level, when a variable is
passed to a Procedure.

The way in which data is passed is via the 'stack' (the 'stack' is an area
of memory set aside by programs for use in passing parameters and holding
local variables). Data is PUSHed on the stack (2 bytes at a time) and
POPed back once inside the Procedure (PUSHing and POPing are assembler
commands which copy two bytes of data to the stack, registers or Memory).
So, when "passing by value", the value of the variable is passed. For a
small Integer, two bytes are PUSHed; for a Long, four bytes: for a Double,
eight bytes. However, for a string, it could take forever to pass when
you're only moving two bytes at a time (and they have to be POPed back
again) and passing a very long string could easily exceed stack space which
is not large. Here most languages cheat and pass an address for the
variable. However, as mentioned above, if you pass an address then changes
made to the variable inside the Procedure would carry back to the calling
routine - not what's expected from 'passing by value'.

To get around this problem, Basic creates a copy of the string and passes
the copy's address. Any changes made only affect the copy and this is
later deleted after the program RETURNs from the Procedure. All neat and
clean and the default way in which GFA works. However, there's a price to
pay for all this.

Creating space for duplicates, copying data across and later deleting these
takes machine time and memory. And the longer the string, the more it
takes and this can have an effect on the performance of your program.

So, if you're using strings to hold large amounts of data (and it's very
tempting to do, especially for data such as bitmaps) and those strings are
passed to Procedures, then using the VAR keyword and forcing 'passing by
reference' can make a big difference, a very big difference.

The listing below was developed to demonstrate this. However, when I first
ran it, there was basically no difference between the methods. This had to
be wrong, so I ran it again - and again there was no difference. So I
compiled it and ran it, and that's when the difference showed up, and
How!!!. What I gather from this is that GFA in the Interpreter still makes
a copy of the string even when VAR is used - I just can't understand why.

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Test_Str.lst

OPENW #1
PRINT "Test of By-Value and By-Reference Variables"
PRINT
PRINT "ByValue Times"

FOR j& = 1 TO 5
b$ = SPACE$(((j& - 1) * 1000) + 10)
tStart = TIMER
FOR i% = 1 TO 100000
ByValue b$
NEXT i%
tFinish = TIMER
PRINT USING " String Length = #### bytes", LEN(b$);
PRINT USING " took ##.### seconds", (tFinish - tStart) / 1000
NEXT j&

PRINT
PRINT
PRINT "ByReference Times"
FOR j& = 1 TO 5
b$ = SPACE$(((j& - 1) * 1000) + 10)
tStart = TIMER
FOR i% = 1 TO 100000
ByReference b$
NEXT i%
tFinish = TIMER
PRINT USING " String Length = #### bytes", LEN(b$);
PRINT USING " took ##.### seconds", (tFinish - tStart) / 1000
NEXT j&
PRINT
PRINT
PRINT "Press any Key to Finish"
KEYGET i%
CLOSEW #1
END

PROCEDURE ByValue(MyString$)
/* Do something
LOCAL l&
l& = LEN(MyString$)
RETURN

PROCEDURE ByReference(VAR MyString$)
/* Do something
LOCAL l&
l& = LEN(MyString$)
RETURN

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Ouch..  I'm gonna look like a real GRUMP here
before too long..

Okay the .EXE extender when I finish with it,
will post it as normal.  No 15 day stuff,
yah I guess I'm trying to take revenge out on
what happened to me in the past and that's really
none of you guys knowing any about..

Dale, although I didn't want my sources on anyones
homepage except my own, in this forum, anything
goes..  Sooooo anyone in here who needs a back source
or a new one, can always get it in this Forum.

My homepage is coming along well, I even found
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didn't know GFA made toys !  I waaaaant one !!  :)

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
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Okay, here's the scoop.
I've just about got my homepage all together
looks =MUCH= better all separated out in about
5-6 different HTML files.

Thanks for the feedback Tom !  :)

As you know my stuff is gonna go Postcardware,
what ya don't know is I'm gone to spend time with
each package and REALLY work at the source code !

Since they're not just toss up in the air free
to all gooey gumdrops but maybe something a little
better like a slice of cake, I'm going to work
for my postcards.  :)

I'm going through all my potential packages
and I see Easter Eggs had very little or no
documentation.  (Cause I was getting all pensive
right up to a few weeks ago).

Okay, here's the Egg Doodler complete with
FULL source code comments.

Tom, there's some good comments down in the area
where I've got the AI pen plotter coloring out
the eggs.

Dale I'll post sourcecodes in here for others
to see, but I just don't want a permanent record
being made of them on a webpage or they start
to lose their value.

If you wanna include some tips & stuff in the
news flyer you've got, that's perfectly aright !
Okay !

GFAWizard source code will be available too,
after I add some MUCH needed functions into it !
:)

Enjoy !

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
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Now this is interesting..
I came across one of my old QBee packages I
wrote that protects software by shifting some
pretty inaccessible bits in them.  Was curious,
brought it up to protect one of my .EXEs.

Windows can't find it !  :)

Can't erase
Can't trash
Can't rename
Can't copy
Can't move
Can't view
Can't cut or paste from it
Can't backup
Can't get Properties
Can't get filesize
Can't confirm existence !
(but it does show up as a file!)

To answer a few questions, it does not
use the HIDDEN, ARCHIVE, or SYSTEM flags, it's
much deeper then that.  I'd let ya know but that
would be TELLING !  Suffice it to say that the
filename is ahhm, illegal ??  :)

Very nice !  So I see now I can make a 100%
file protector in the future of Win98 as well !

What I wrote years ago was interesting.
It was a little program that allowed you to
run 100% inaccessible software that I made so
for installation, let me check PKZIP on this..

Very good !  It CAN be PKUNZIPed by DOS,
let me check WinZip..

WinZip will not acknowledge it correctly.
Okay, but that means I can severely encrypt
the .EXE file and only unencrypt when the
bit is set correctly in it.

Yah I'm rambling, okay what it did I wrote
it for companies years ago, it would
allow any software written either by myself
or others to be kept on a strict clock !

The only way you could run the encrypted
software was by setting that highly inaccessible
bit

Soo you could easily make a program that logged
each time you ran this special file, allowed you
only so many times to run it, or days to run it,
or both.

Tom, if you're doing commercial software you might
enjoy this.  Lemme pick up the pieces for it.

Was originally called Pro Protector, I've gotta
screen-shot, you need to be in real DOS to see
this..
prologo.com

Might be interesting to revive it !
I'll write a real quick program to protect/
delete a sample text file.
Run this in a fairly small directory because you
can't access it by name, just as being one of the
*.* files and that might make it hard to find if
have 400 files around it.
[enclosed]

Let's see WHO can get inside to read it !
It's just a text file right ???

Nanee Nanee Boo Boo !  :)

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
David
I have a file of this nature on here now.  A real crock of S__T!  I haven't
yet figured out which appl puts it in the TEMP dir, but I *CAN* go to DOS &
delete the damned thing!  I'll have to search the registry for it because
it is replaced the next time the registry is read on bootup.  It's more
bother to do than the damned thing is worth.
TomR.


At 06:53 PM 08/05/00 -0700, you wrote:
>Now this is interesting..
>I came across one of my old QBee packages I
>wrote that protects software by shifting some
>pretty inaccessible bits in them.  Was curious,
>brought it up to protect one of my .EXEs.
>
>Windows can't find it !  :)
>
>Can't erase
>Can't trash
>Can't rename
>Can't copy
>Can't move
>Can't view
>Can't cut or paste from it
>Can't backup
>Can't get Properties
>Can't get filesize
>Can't confirm existence !
>(but it does show up as a file!)
>
>To answer a few questions, it does not
>use the HIDDEN, ARCHIVE, or SYSTEM flags, it's
>much deeper then that.  I'd let ya know but that
>would be TELLING !  Suffice it to say that the
>filename is ahhm, illegal ??  :)
>
>Very nice !  So I see now I can make a 100%
>file protector in the future of Win98 as well !
>
>What I wrote years ago was interesting.
>It was a little program that allowed you to
>run 100% inaccessible software that I made so
>for installation, let me check PKZIP on this..
>
>Very good !  It CAN be PKUNZIPed by DOS,
>let me check WinZip..
>
>WinZip will not acknowledge it correctly.
>Okay, but that means I can severely encrypt
>the .EXE file and only unencrypt when the
>bit is set correctly in it.
>
>Yah I'm rambling, okay what it did I wrote
>it for companies years ago, it would
>allow any software written either by myself
>or others to be kept on a strict clock !
>
>The only way you could run the encrypted
>software was by setting that highly inaccessible
>bit
>
>Soo you could easily make a program that logged
>each time you ran this special file, allowed you
>only so many times to run it, or days to run it,
>or both.
>
>Tom, if you're doing commercial software you might
>enjoy this.  Lemme pick up the pieces for it.
>
>Was originally called Pro Protector, I've gotta
>screen-shot, you need to be in real DOS to see
>this..
>prologo.com
>
>Might be interesting to revive it !
>I'll write a real quick program to protect/
>delete a sample text file.
>Run this in a fairly small directory because you
>can't access it by name, just as being one of the
>*.* files and that might make it hard to find if
>have 400 files around it.
>[enclosed]
>
>Let's see WHO can get inside to read it !
>It's just a text file right ???
>
>Nanee Nanee Boo Boo !  :)
>
>Sincerely,
>David W.
>
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Ouch !
You went to DOS and deleted it ?
How dju do that !  It's supposed to be kinna
inaccessible in regular old DOS too.
Ah well..  It was a nice project years ago.
:)

Here is Round Boxes for everyone who despises
the RBOX that is provided with GFA.

Just now thinking, every one is more then welcome
to change the two \5 in there to \4 to get even a
more ROUNDER look !

This is for public-posting, I didn't actually want
ALL my projects removed, just the main ones like
Wind Chimes and Jukebox for Postcardware.

I'll write Dale and hopefully we'll get some
back.

Enjoy !

Sincerely,
David W.


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> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> David
> I have a file of this nature on here now.  A real
> crock of S__T!  I haven't
> yet figured out which appl puts it in the TEMP dir,
> but I *CAN* go to DOS &
> delete the damned thing!  I'll have to search the
> registry for it because
> it is replaced the next time the registry is read on
> bootup.  It's more
> bother to do than the damned thing is worth.
> TomR.


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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Ok, I'm getting all my .EXEs together, compiling
and checking and I've noticed a very distinct
pattern difference between the interpreter and
the purchased compiler.

The command "SLEEP" in the compiler does not seem
to work at all !  I'm changing it to GETEVENT
(which is similar ?  Someone please correct me on
 this if I'm wrong).  And it seems to function just
fine in both the Compiler and Interpreter now.

Hope This Helps !

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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
OK, who shut the list down?

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Well don't look at me Dale !
I've just been all busy working on programs
and stuff !

And Tom, if you wanna take a gander at my
homepage.  It's all done !  (WHEW!)
Takes a lot of work to rewrite multiple
HTML files but I think it looks pretty good now !
:)

Sincerely,
David W.
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Hi David,
Your page looks very good.
Dale

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> List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Well don't look at me Dale !
> I've just been all busy working on programs
> and stuff !
>
> And Tom, if you wanna take a gander at my
> homepage.  It's all done !  (WHEW!)
> Takes a lot of work to rewrite multiple
> HTML files but I think it looks pretty good now !
> :)
>
> Sincerely,
> David W.
> http://www.geocities.com/dw817
>
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Revelation: PKlite is NOT a part of even the registered (49$US)
PKWare package!  I tho't I had it, but had to go get it!

SHEESH!  45$US!

All guff aside... PKlite WILL compress a GFA-W(16) executable, but 
ONLY if it has the proper extension.  *.scr is NOT "proper" to it.
However... If you wish to compress an *.scr, simply rename it to
end w/ "exe" & tell PKlite to output the compressed file w/ "scr"!

The pro version (registered, 45$US) WILL compress a bit deeper &
also, using the "-e" switch, even deeper yet & encodes it to 
prevent decompression for rev-engineering.  Down DavidW.'s alley.

The above picked up when I realized Roland had re-issued minijpeg.lib
as jpeg.lib... improved, & 0.5K larger.  It turns out that using PKlite
is of no real advantage for me unless I resort to using *.gif & *.bmp
that haven't been run thru the Codec compression.  *.gif *will* compress
a bit more, but *.jpg are almost at the limit.  Saving a few bytes/image
is of no real benefit when trying to get a large file to meet a 172K
download restriction.  12 screen-sized images produce a VERY large *.scr.

25 large *.jpg images hits the 1Meg filesize & MORE!

Just another tidbit of info to keep in mind.
<G>
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:

--- Tom Record
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> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Revelation: PKlite is NOT a part of even the
> registered (49$US)
> PKWare package!  I tho't I had it, but had to go get
> it!
> 
> SHEESH!  45$US!

Since I paid bout $80 for the compiler, $45 doesn't
seem too bad now.  :)

> 
> All guff aside... PKlite WILL compress a GFA-W(16)
> executable, but 
> ONLY if it has the proper extension.  *.scr is NOT
> "proper" to it.
> However... If you wish to compress an *.scr, simply
> rename it to
> end w/ "exe" & tell PKlite to output the compressed
> file w/ "scr"!

I've got a .COM to .EXE if you need it Tom.  All ways
had troubles with me crunching programs cause they're
not the way the program wants.  Your idea of
renaming a .SCR to a .EXE is good !  You think
PKWare would check for that, or at least allow
immediate access to .SCR.

Hey Tom !  Any chance of you tossing that .SCR over
here ?  I just use my kaleidoscope at night, I really
need to wanna output through laser beams and bounce
'em off a mirrored ball on the ceiling.  :)

Yah I remembered when I worked for Star Telegram,
made #1 top producer so I asked if I could have a
set of blue Running Lights on the sides of my chair.
They all nearly fell out of their chair laughing,
yah they didn't know I was being serious !  (Smile)


> 
> The pro version (registered, 45$US) WILL compress a
> bit deeper &
> also, using the "-e" switch, even deeper yet &
> encodes it to 
> prevent decompression for rev-engineering.  Down
> DavidW.'s alley.

Yah encoding, encrypting, compressing, squashing,
crunching, shrinking, freezing, randomizing,
and imploding file's sizes and data bits are
right up my alley.  :)

I'm still not convinced PKWare is the top cruncher.
Although I hadn't mentioned it earlier, Gustavo
and me have been going back & forth Email about
good .EXE crunchers, libraries, all kinds of neat
stuff.  He's awfully busy all the time tho which is
why I don't we see him in heres too much !  :)

Mr. Loock is awful busy too but he wrote me yesterday,
he's doing JUST fine !

> 
> The above picked up when I realized Roland had
> re-issued minijpeg.lib
> as jpeg.lib... improved, & 0.5K larger.  It turns
> out that using PKlite
> is of no real advantage for me unless I resort to
> using *.gif & *.bmp
> that haven't been run thru the Codec compression. 

* Tom, PKZIPed bitmaps that are 8-bit crunch
  remarkably well !  I'm kinna taking advantage of
  that in my own bitmap cruncher.

> *.gif *will* compress
> a bit more, but *.jpg are almost at the limit. 

Tom, JPGs will crunch but you need specialized
software like Image Compressor and the like.  What
they do is reorganize the pattern tables so anything
that is using too many pattern pieces (those funny
little squares you see when you crunch it down to 1%
quality), it gets smarter about that stuff.  It's
really SLOW on my computer to crunch stuff like that
tho !  Best to go with the new Display and Quantize
the looping pix !

A few tips to make .JPGs smaller I've found.
Quantize with 4 4 1 which makes colors far apart
use bigger blocks, repeating patterns to reduce and
use smaller blocks, and the last clean-up detail
to 1 pixel for any other images so it don't look
all stupid !  :)

Also dither, blur, remove stray pixels, and color
uniformity is good.  Never save a .JPG as 8-bit if
you can always save as 24-bit, it looks better, natch
!
and is often smaller then its 8-bit counterpart.

> Saving a few bytes/image
> is of no real benefit when trying to get a large
> file to meet a 172K
> download restriction.  12 screen-sized images
> produce a VERY large *.scr.

Tom, you should be able to get some 8-bit bitmaps
to fit in that space.  Remember I'm still going to
try the idea of using included compression files
appended on to the end of already PKLited and
PyrLock my own gizzymo to make sure it can't be
undone.

Hope This Helps !

Sincerely,
David W.

> 25 large *.jpg images hits the 1Meg filesize & MORE!
> 
> Just another tidbit of info to keep in mind.
> <G>
> TomR.


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--- Dale Bryant <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
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> Hi David,
> Your page looks very good.
> Dale

Thanks Dale !  I think my Guestbook isn't quite
right tho.  I'm asking one question in it and it's
not coming out the person's favorite homepage or
something..

I see I need to do some very serious deep-rooted
advertising of my homepage and Dale's to try once
again to sway the course of QB's de-evolution to
the brighter more correct light of GFA's bounty
and wisdom.  Amen.  :)

I dunno Dale, maybe you should sponsor free beer
and pretzels or something to get more folks in here.
I remember running Scenario years ago I really
had to stir thinks up with a stick to get
conversations going in the Philosophy Base and
Locale Taverne Chat.

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I could be wrong but it seems to me that Tom was the one that offered the
free beer and pretzels.
I'm pretty sure.<G>
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> List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> --- Dale Bryant <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> > List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com>
> > wrote:
> > Hi David,
> > Your page looks very good.
> > Dale
>
> Thanks Dale !  I think my Guestbook isn't quite
> right tho.  I'm asking one question in it and it's
> not coming out the person's favorite homepage or
> something..
>
> I see I need to do some very serious deep-rooted
> advertising of my homepage and Dale's to try once
> again to sway the course of QB's de-evolution to
> the brighter more correct light of GFA's bounty
> and wisdom.  Amen.  :)
>
> I dunno Dale, maybe you should sponsor free beer
> and pretzels or something to get more folks in here.
> I remember running Scenario years ago I really
> had to stir thinks up with a stick to get
> conversations going in the Philosophy Base and
> Locale Taverne Chat.
>
> Sincerely,
> David W.
>
>
>
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
$DESCR SCRNSAVE: TomR.
Name TaskManager will list it as in ControlPanel|Display|Screensaver

$LNK Exe tomr.scr
What it will compile to.  Where, also, if you add a path to it - otherwise,
you'll find it in the same dir as the *.gfw.

$Name TomR.
If you put an icon in it & install it to the desktop or a ProgMan group,
this is the title placed under the icon there.

$LNK LIB MINIJPEG.LIB
If using Roland's (or anybody else's *.lib)

$LNK Res TOMR.RES
The resource (*.res) file

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Subject: Re: [gfabasic] PKlite
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
PKLITE and PKLITE Professional compress the following executables:
   For Windows: .EXE, .DLL, and .DRV files.
   For DOS: .EXE, .COM, .DRV, and .SYS files.
Barfing on "scr" tells me that there is NOT internal checking for
a file being executable or not.  There are about _8_ more extensions
that are scattered between "executable" or not... "sys" can be a
bitmap or a system library.

It's 16-bit absolute... many *.vbx, *.ocx, etc., aren't gonna fly
even by changing the extension.

Crux of the reason to bring much of this out... *IF* I poke a logo
in as Codec-compressed *.bmp, the resource size is reduced & will be
onscreen virtually instantly.  I found that the Codecs can compress _&_
read RLE8 down to about 50%, but LOADBMP loses out beyond about 20%.

Another dumbassed method would be to chop the logo (as *.jpg) into
postage stamps.  Roland's *.lib grabs *those* like lightning.  Just
"spot" each stamp to it's proper position in the puzzle onscreen.

To keep everything copasetic, one has to watch verrrrrrrry carefully
when compiling in Borland!!!!!!  That plinkity gizmo will switch the
order of images!  It also has another +PROBLEM+... rename one image
in it to rename another to that slot ( put #103 back as #2, e.g.) &
altho you never see the total number of images change, #103 will now
show up as #2 _&_ #103 during display & the #2 you moved to, let's say,
150, will now show as the very last image, come hell or high water.

I _WISH_ I could get Roland's compiler to settle down & work right
_EVERY_ time.  I'd like to make it read an *.rc  into *.res.

David, http://TiGeR1.webjump.com/p5index.htm Send me a packet of your
favorite images & I'll pack'em into a *.res for you then you can make
adjustments to behaviour & compile you're own.  I'm finding better
ways to handle some things, so you can gain from this.
<G>
TomR.


At 11:33 AM 10/05/00 -0700, you wrote:
>List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>--- Tom Record
><tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> List Member Tom Record
>> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> Revelation: PKlite is NOT a part of even the
>> registered (49$US)
>> PKWare package!  I tho't I had it, but had to go get
>> it!
>> 
>> SHEESH!  45$US!
>
>Since I paid bout $80 for the compiler, $45 doesn't
>seem too bad now.  :)
>
>> 
>> All guff aside... PKlite WILL compress a GFA-W(16)
>> executable, but 
>> ONLY if it has the proper extension.  *.scr is NOT
>> "proper" to it.
>> However... If you wish to compress an *.scr, simply
>> rename it to
>> end w/ "exe" & tell PKlite to output the compressed
>> file w/ "scr"!
>
>I've got a .COM to .EXE if you need it Tom.  All ways
>had troubles with me crunching programs cause they're
>not the way the program wants.  Your idea of
>renaming a .SCR to a .EXE is good !  You think
>PKWare would check for that, or at least allow
>immediate access to .SCR.
>
>Hey Tom !  Any chance of you tossing that .SCR over
>here ?  I just use my kaleidoscope at night, I really
>need to wanna output through laser beams and bounce
>'em off a mirrored ball on the ceiling.  :)
>
>Yah I remembered when I worked for Star Telegram,
>made #1 top producer so I asked if I could have a
>set of blue Running Lights on the sides of my chair.
>They all nearly fell out of their chair laughing,
>yah they didn't know I was being serious !  (Smile)
>
>
>> 
>> The pro version (registered, 45$US) WILL compress a
>> bit deeper &
>> also, using the "-e" switch, even deeper yet &
>> encodes it to 
>> prevent decompression for rev-engineering.  Down
>> DavidW.'s alley.
>
>Yah encoding, encrypting, compressing, squashing,
>crunching, shrinking, freezing, randomizing,
>and imploding file's sizes and data bits are
>right up my alley.  :)
>
>I'm still not convinced PKWare is the top cruncher.
>Although I hadn't mentioned it earlier, Gustavo
>and me have been going back & forth Email about
>good .EXE crunchers, libraries, all kinds of neat
>stuff.  He's awfully busy all the time tho which is
>why I don't we see him in heres too much !  :)
>
>Mr. Loock is awful busy too but he wrote me yesterday,
>he's doing JUST fine !
>
>> 
>> The above picked up when I realized Roland had
>> re-issued minijpeg.lib
>> as jpeg.lib... improved, & 0.5K larger.  It turns
>> out that using PKlite
>> is of no real advantage for me unless I resort to
>> using *.gif & *.bmp
>> that haven't been run thru the Codec compression. 
>
>* Tom, PKZIPed bitmaps that are 8-bit crunch
>  remarkably well !  I'm kinna taking advantage of
>  that in my own bitmap cruncher.
>
>> *.gif *will* compress
>> a bit more, but *.jpg are almost at the limit. 
>
>Tom, JPGs will crunch but you need specialized
>software like Image Compressor and the like.  What
>they do is reorganize the pattern tables so anything
>that is using too many pattern pieces (those funny
>little squares you see when you crunch it down to 1%
>quality), it gets smarter about that stuff.  It's
>really SLOW on my computer to crunch stuff like that
>tho !  Best to go with the new Display and Quantize
>the looping pix !
>
>A few tips to make .JPGs smaller I've found.
>Quantize with 4 4 1 which makes colors far apart
>use bigger blocks, repeating patterns to reduce and
>use smaller blocks, and the last clean-up detail
>to 1 pixel for any other images so it don't look
>all stupid !  :)
>
>Also dither, blur, remove stray pixels, and color
>uniformity is good.  Never save a .JPG as 8-bit if
>you can always save as 24-bit, it looks better, natch
>!
>and is often smaller then its 8-bit counterpart.
>
>> Saving a few bytes/image
>> is of no real benefit when trying to get a large
>> file to meet a 172K
>> download restriction.  12 screen-sized images
>> produce a VERY large *.scr.
>
>Tom, you should be able to get some 8-bit bitmaps
>to fit in that space.  Remember I'm still going to
>try the idea of using included compression files
>appended on to the end of already PKLited and
>PyrLock my own gizzymo to make sure it can't be
>undone.
>
>Hope This Helps !
>
>Sincerely,
>David W.
>
>> 25 large *.jpg images hits the 1Meg filesize & MORE!
>> 
>> Just another tidbit of info to keep in mind.
>> <G>
>> TomR.
>
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:

--- Dale Bryant <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com>
> wrote:
> I could be wrong but it seems to me that Tom was the
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> free beer and pretzels.
> I'm pretty sure.<G>
> Dale Bryant
> http://

Was you Tom ??  Couldn't have thunk it.
Okee well while you're out getting them,
think I can have you go to the trouble to bring
back a bag of potato crisps too ?  And some
fruit punch for the kiddies !  :)

Dunno why it's so quiet Dale,
who's got the remote for this program anyways ?

Sincerely,
David W.

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> > > wrote:
> > > Hi David,
> > > Your page looks very good.
> > > Dale
> >
> > Thanks Dale !  I think my Guestbook isn't quite
> > right tho.  I'm asking one question in it and it's
> > not coming out the person's favorite homepage or
> > something..
> >
> > I see I need to do some very serious deep-rooted
> > advertising of my homepage and Dale's to try once
> > again to sway the course of QB's de-evolution to
> > the brighter more correct light of GFA's bounty
> > and wisdom.  Amen.  :)
> >
> > I dunno Dale, maybe you should sponsor free beer
> > and pretzels or something to get more folks in
> here.
> > I remember running Scenario years ago I really
> > had to stir thinks up with a stick to get
> > conversations going in the Philosophy Base and
> > Locale Taverne Chat.
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:

--- Tom Record
<tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> PKLITE and PKLITE Professional compress the
> following executables:
>    For Windows: .EXE, .DLL, and .DRV files.
>    For DOS: .EXE, .COM, .DRV, and .SYS files.
> Barfing on "scr" tells me that there is NOT internal
> checking for
> a file being executable or not.  There are about _8_
> more extensions
> that are scattered between "executable" or not...
> "sys" can be a
> bitmap or a system library.
> 
> It's 16-bit absolute... many *.vbx, *.ocx, etc.,
> aren't gonna fly
> even by changing the extension.
> 
> Crux of the reason to bring much of this out... *IF*
> I poke a logo
> in as Codec-compressed *.bmp, the resource size is
> reduced & will be
> onscreen virtually instantly.  I found that the
> Codecs can compress _&_
> read RLE8 down to about 50%, but LOADBMP loses out
> beyond about 20%.
> 
> Another dumbassed method would be to chop the logo
> (as *.jpg) into
> postage stamps.  Roland's *.lib grabs *those* like
> lightning.  Just
> "spot" each stamp to it's proper position in the
> puzzle onscreen.
> 
> To keep everything copasetic, one has to watch
> verrrrrrrry carefully
> when compiling in Borland!!!!!!  That plinkity gizmo
> will switch the
> order of images!  It also has another +PROBLEM+...
> rename one image
> in it to rename another to that slot ( put #103 back
> as #2, e.g.) &
> altho you never see the total number of images
> change, #103 will now
> show up as #2 _&_ #103 during display & the #2 you
> moved to, let's say,
> 150, will now show as the very last image, come hell
> or high water.
> 
> I _WISH_ I could get Roland's compiler to settle
> down & work right
> _EVERY_ time.  I'd like to make it read an *.rc 
> into *.res.
> 
> David, http://TiGeR1.webjump.com/p5index.htm Send me
> a packet of your
> favorite images & I'll pack'em into a *.res for you
> then you can make
> adjustments to behaviour & compile you're own.  I'm
> finding better
> ways to handle some things, so you can gain from
> this.
> <G>
> TomR.

Okay I was zzz..dreaming..zzz for a bit cause you
were way over my head which is fine !  :)  But then
I heard my name so I'm awake now..  Okay..  What's a
RES ?  Or, and this probably pertains to every part
of how I ever learned ever anything or plan to learn
or will learn or have yet to learn.

Please show me in an example.

I'm doodling in GFAWizard with true DIALOG buttons
and stuff.  Ya know Dale, I may not need to want to
write my own GUI for everything.  GFA has actually
been pretty friendly and easy-going for writing
this high order Window stuff so far.  I got the pull-
down menus in GFAWizard riight !  so the others should
not be too hard to figure out.  As always,
example
 example
  example.

There's a moot example in the help file but
I kinna sorta maybe not-entirely but on the verge
of perceiving understand it.

Sincerely,
David W.

I'll give you a DEFINITE maybe okay !  :)

> 
> 
> At 11:33 AM 10/05/00 -0700, you wrote:
> >List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >--- Tom Record
> ><tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> >> List Member Tom Record
> >> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net>
> wrote:
> >> Revelation: PKlite is NOT a part of even the
> >> registered (49$US)
> >> PKWare package!  I tho't I had it, but had to go
> get
> >> it!
> >> 
> >> SHEESH!  45$US!
> >
> >Since I paid bout $80 for the compiler, $45 doesn't
> >seem too bad now.  :)
> >
> >> 
> >> All guff aside... PKlite WILL compress a
> GFA-W(16)
> >> executable, but 
> >> ONLY if it has the proper extension.  *.scr is
> NOT
> >> "proper" to it.
> >> However... If you wish to compress an *.scr,
> simply
> >> rename it to
> >> end w/ "exe" & tell PKlite to output the
> compressed
> >> file w/ "scr"!
> >
> >I've got a .COM to .EXE if you need it Tom.  All
> ways
> >had troubles with me crunching programs cause
> they're
> >not the way the program wants.  Your idea of
> >renaming a .SCR to a .EXE is good !  You think
> >PKWare would check for that, or at least allow
> >immediate access to .SCR.
> >
> >Hey Tom !  Any chance of you tossing that .SCR over
> >here ?  I just use my kaleidoscope at night, I
> really
> >need to wanna output through laser beams and bounce
> >'em off a mirrored ball on the ceiling.  :)
> >
> >Yah I remembered when I worked for Star Telegram,
> >made #1 top producer so I asked if I could have a
> >set of blue Running Lights on the sides of my
> chair.
> >They all nearly fell out of their chair laughing,
> >yah they didn't know I was being serious !  (Smile)
> >
> >
> >> 
> >> The pro version (registered, 45$US) WILL compress
> a
> >> bit deeper &
> >> also, using the "-e" switch, even deeper yet &
> >> encodes it to 
> >> prevent decompression for rev-engineering.  Down
> >> DavidW.'s alley.
> >
> >Yah encoding, encrypting, compressing, squashing,
> >crunching, shrinking, freezing, randomizing,
> >and imploding file's sizes and data bits are
> >right up my alley.  :)
> >
> >I'm still not convinced PKWare is the top cruncher.
> >Although I hadn't mentioned it earlier, Gustavo
> >and me have been going back & forth Email about
> >good .EXE crunchers, libraries, all kinds of neat
> >stuff.  He's awfully busy all the time tho which is
> >why I don't we see him in heres too much !  :)
> >
> >Mr. Loock is awful busy too but he wrote me
> yesterday,
> >he's doing JUST fine !
> >
> >> 
> >> The above picked up when I realized Roland had
> >> re-issued minijpeg.lib
> >> as jpeg.lib... improved, & 0.5K larger.  It turns
> >> out that using PKlite
> >> is of no real advantage for me unless I resort to
> >> using *.gif & *.bmp
> >> that haven't been run thru the Codec compression.
> 
> >
> >* Tom, PKZIPed bitmaps that are 8-bit crunch
> >  remarkably well !  I'm kinna taking advantage of
> >  that in my own bitmap cruncher.
> >
> >> *.gif *will* compress
> >> a bit more, but *.jpg are almost at the limit. 
> >
> >Tom, JPGs will crunch but you need specialized
> >software like Image Compressor and the like.  What
> >they do is reorganize the pattern tables so
> anything
> >that is using too many pattern pieces (those funny
> >little squares you see when you crunch it down to
> 1%
> >quality), it gets smarter about that stuff.  It's
> >really SLOW on my computer to crunch stuff like
> that
> >tho !  Best to go with the new Display and Quantize
> >the looping pix !
> >
> >A few tips to make .JPGs smaller I've found.
> >Quantize with 4 4 1 which makes colors far apart
> >use bigger blocks, repeating patterns to reduce and
> >use smaller blocks, and the last clean-up detail
> >to 1 pixel for any other images so it don't look
> >all stupid !  :)
> >
> >Also dither, blur, remove stray pixels, and color
> >uniformity is good.  Never save a .JPG as 8-bit if
> >you can always save as 24-bit, it looks better,
> natch
> >!
> >and is often smaller then its 8-bit counterpart.
> >
> >> Saving a few bytes/image
> >> is of no real benefit when trying to get a large
> >> file to meet a 172K
> >> download restriction.  12 screen-sized images
> >> produce a VERY large *.scr.
> >
> >Tom, you should be able to get some 8-bit bitmaps
> >to fit in that space.  Remember I'm still going to
> >try the idea of using included compression files
> >appended on to the end of already PKLited and
> >PyrLock my own gizzymo to make sure it can't be
> >undone.
> >
> >Hope This Helps !
> >
> >Sincerely,
> >David W.
> >
> >> 25 large *.jpg images hits the 1Meg filesize &
> MORE!
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> >> Just another tidbit of info to keep in mind.
> >> <G>
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List Member bdd <BrentDeck@compuserve.com> wrote:
Message text written by INTERNET:gfabasic@gfa.net
>I WILL confess =

that I have an extreme revulsion to "keyboarding" as in DOS.<

Hi Tom,

Unfortunately,  no laptop computer made today has a pointing device that
can dos simple =

mouse functions like drag&drop. You must add an external mouse ...  and
find lapspace for it.

Additionally, certain functions, once learned with alt key combos,
 are  much faster with keyboard than mouse.  =


I've always been of the opion that windows is a good interface for
learning,
 but a terrible interface for using software.

Oh, boy....


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List Member "Bev Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
Maybe they got the same storm EVERYWHERE!!!   <g>

                             -->Bev<--

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> List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> OK, who shut the list down?
> 
> Dale Bryant
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
I don't know David, they are probably off writing some great stuff for the
news letters.
I hope!

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> List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> --- Dale Bryant <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> > List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com>
> > wrote:
> > I could be wrong but it seems to me that Tom was the
> > one that offered the
> > free beer and pretzels.
> > I'm pretty sure.<G>
> > Dale Bryant
> > http://
>
> Was you Tom ??  Couldn't have thunk it.
> Okee well while you're out getting them,
> think I can have you go to the trouble to bring
> back a bag of potato crisps too ?  And some
> fruit punch for the kiddies !  :)
>
> Dunno why it's so quiet Dale,
> who's got the remote for this program anyways ?
>
> Sincerely,
> David W.
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> > From: "David Wicker" <dw817@yahoo.com>
> > To: <gfabasic@gfa.net>
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2000 1:53 PM
> > Subject: Re: [gfabasic] ok
> >
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> > >
> > > --- Dale Bryant <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> > > > List Member "Dale Bryant"
> > <adbryant@email.msn.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > Hi David,
> > > > Your page looks very good.
> > > > Dale
> > >
> > > Thanks Dale !  I think my Guestbook isn't quite
> > > right tho.  I'm asking one question in it and it's
> > > not coming out the person's favorite homepage or
> > > something..
> > >
> > > I see I need to do some very serious deep-rooted
> > > advertising of my homepage and Dale's to try once
> > > again to sway the course of QB's de-evolution to
> > > the brighter more correct light of GFA's bounty
> > > and wisdom.  Amen.  :)
> > >
> > > I dunno Dale, maybe you should sponsor free beer
> > > and pretzels or something to get more folks in
> > here.
> > > I remember running Scenario years ago I really
> > > had to stir thinks up with a stick to get
> > > conversations going in the Philosophy Base and
> > > Locale Taverne Chat.
> > >
> > > Sincerely,
> > > David W.
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
--- Dale Bryant <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com>
> wrote:
> I don't know David, they are probably off writing
> some great stuff for the
> news letters.
> I hope!
> 
> Dale Bryant

Errhh..  Ahh.  >Ahem!<  >Cough!<  >Blink!<

Ahhm..  I don't know, it's just possible maybe in
even a remote way that I GUESS I could have written
just a teeny tiny bit of text nothing to get all
excited about just a bitty smidgen of an intro to
well you know GFA.  You've probably forgotten about
it already.  :)

It MIGHT be in the GFA zip download, I don't know
I gave it very little thought.
What were we talking about ?  ^o^

Sincerely,
David W.


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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Hey, Brent
Ok.  <G>.  So... the mouse is a flop.  Ok... how's about a game stick?
Has x/y & from 1 to 6 buttons to play w/ & we have routines available 
in GFA-W(16) to use'em.  Just jawin - I don't have a laptop.
<G>
TomR.


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>List Member bdd <BrentDeck@compuserve.com> wrote:
>Message text written by INTERNET:gfabasic@gfa.net
>>I WILL confess 
>that I have an extreme revulsion to "keyboarding" as in DOS.<
>
>Hi Tom,
>
>Unfortunately,  no laptop computer made today has a pointing device that
>can dos simple 
>mouse functions like drag&drop. You must add an external mouse ...  and
>find lapspace for it.
>
>Additionally, certain functions, once learned with alt key combos,
> are  much faster with keyboard than mouse.  
>
>I've always been of the opion that windows is a good interface for
>learning,
> but a terrible interface for using software.
>
>Oh, boy....
>
>
>Best Regards
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Naw, *my* offer is Diet Coke & roasted goobers <G>.
TomR.

At 02:48 PM 10/05/00 -0700, you wrote:
>List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
>I could be wrong but it seems to me that Tom was the one that offered the
>free beer and pretzels.
>I'm pretty sure.<G>
>Dale Bryant
>http://gfawhelp.com
>http://gfawhelp.gfa.net
>adbryant@msn.com
>adbryant@gfa.net
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "David Wicker" <dw817@yahoo.com>
>To: <gfabasic@gfa.net>
>Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2000 1:53 PM
>Subject: Re: [gfabasic] ok
>
>
>> List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> --- Dale Bryant <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
>> > List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com>
>> > wrote:
>> > Hi David,
>> > Your page looks very good.
>> > Dale
>>
>> Thanks Dale !  I think my Guestbook isn't quite
>> right tho.  I'm asking one question in it and it's
>> not coming out the person's favorite homepage or
>> something..
>>
>> I see I need to do some very serious deep-rooted
>> advertising of my homepage and Dale's to try once
>> again to sway the course of QB's de-evolution to
>> the brighter more correct light of GFA's bounty
>> and wisdom.  Amen.  :)
>>
>> I dunno Dale, maybe you should sponsor free beer
>> and pretzels or something to get more folks in here.
>> I remember running Scenario years ago I really
>> had to stir thinks up with a stick to get
>> conversations going in the Philosophy Base and
>> Locale Taverne Chat.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> David W.
>>
>>
>>
>>
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List Member Jim Pennington <Jim@x-act.net> wrote:
David,

I couldn't resist the challenge! Here's the file...   :)

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Wow !  Lemme know how you got in here finally !  :)
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DIR path$ TO path$+"dir.txt"
OPEN "I",#1,path$+"dir.txt"
REPEAT
 INPUT #1,file$
UNTIL INSTR(file$,"NANYBOO.TXT")>0
CLOSE #1
secretcode|=ASC(file$)
OPEN "I",#1,path$+file$

or RENAME path$+file$ AS path$+"gotcha.txt"
or KILL path$+file$

Etc.


Jim Pennington



> List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote: 
> --0-1804289383-957837189=:19854 
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii 
> Content-Disposition: inline 
>    
> Now this is interesting.. 
> I came across one of my old QBee packages I 
> wrote that protects software by shifting some 
> pretty inaccessible bits in them.  Was curious, 
> brought it up to protect one of my .EXEs. 
>    
> Windows can't find it !  :) 
>    
> Can't erase 
> Can't trash 
> Can't rename 
> Can't copy 
> Can't move 
> Can't view 
> Can't cut or paste from it 
> Can't backup 
> Can't get Properties 
> Can't get filesize 
> Can't confirm existence ! 
> (but it does show up as a file!) 
>  
> To answer a few questions, it does not 
> use the HIDDEN, ARCHIVE, or SYSTEM flags, it's 
> much deeper then that.  I'd let ya know but that 
> would be TELLING !  Suffice it to say that the 
> filename is ahhm, illegal ??  :) 
>  
> Very nice !  So I see now I can make a 100% 
> file protector in the future of Win98 as well ! 
>  
> What I wrote years ago was interesting. 
> It was a little program that allowed you to 
> run 100% inaccessible software that I made so 
> for installation, let me check PKZIP on this.. 
>  
> Very good !  It CAN be PKUNZIPed by DOS, 
> let me check WinZip.. 
>  
> WinZip will not acknowledge it correctly. 
> Okay, but that means I can severely encrypt 
> the .EXE file and only unencrypt when the 
> bit is set correctly in it. 
>  
> Yah I'm rambling, okay what it did I wrote 
> it for companies years ago, it would 
> allow any software written either by myself 
> or others to be kept on a strict clock ! 
>  
> The only way you could run the encrypted 
> software was by setting that highly inaccessible 
> bit 
>  
> Soo you could easily make a program that logged 
> each time you ran this special file, allowed you 
> only so many times to run it, or days to run it, 
> or both. 
>  
> Tom, if you're doing commercial software you might 
> enjoy this.  Lemme pick up the pieces for it. 
>  
> Was originally called Pro Protector, I've gotta 
> screen-shot, you need to be in real DOS to see 
> this.. 
> prologo.com 
>  
> Might be interesting to revive it ! 
> I'll write a real quick program to protect/ 
> delete a sample text file. 
> Run this in a fairly small directory because you 
> can't access it by name, just as being one of the 
> *.* files and that might make it hard to find if 
> have 400 files around it. 
> [enclosed] 
>  
> Let's see WHO can get inside to read it ! 
> It's just a text file right ??? 
>  
> Nanee Nanee Boo Boo !  :) 
>  
> Sincerely, 
> David W.




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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Congratulations !
Good job Jim !

Mind you, I wrote that years ago when ANSI
was lord over all and DOS was the new messiah.  :)

Certainly it kept out those not familiar with
programming.  Kudos on your technique to get it out !

It's strange that Windows behaves so oddly when it
comes across such a file.  I suppose .EXE
encryption would be the final word in it.

May play with something like that if the urge hits
me.

Right now it's all most Mother's Day and I'm working
on a prezzy for my mom.  I'll post a copy in here
since it's for the holidays.

Now a question for you Jim:
What was the technique I used to make that file
inaccessible ?

And what is the variable:
secretcode|=ASC(file$)

Just Curious !

Sincerely,
David W.

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> List Member Jim Pennington <Jim@x-act.net> wrote:
> David,
> 
> I couldn't resist the challenge! Here's the file... 
>  :)
> 
> ______________________________
> Wow !  Lemme know how you got in here finally !  :)
> dw817@yahoo.com
> __________________________________
> 
> DIR path$ TO path$+"dir.txt"
> OPEN "I",#1,path$+"dir.txt"
> REPEAT
>  INPUT #1,file$
> UNTIL INSTR(file$,"NANYBOO.TXT")>0
> CLOSE #1
> secretcode|=ASC(file$)
> OPEN "I",#1,path$+file$
> 
> or RENAME path$+file$ AS path$+"gotcha.txt"
> or KILL path$+file$
> 
> Etc.
> 
> 
> Jim Pennington
> 
> 
> 
> > List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote: 
> > --0-1804289383-957837189=:19854 
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii 
> > Content-Disposition: inline 
> >    
> > Now this is interesting.. 
> > I came across one of my old QBee packages I 
> > wrote that protects software by shifting some 
> > pretty inaccessible bits in them.  Was curious, 
> > brought it up to protect one of my .EXEs. 
> >    
> > Windows can't find it !  :) 
> >    
> > Can't erase 
> > Can't trash 
> > Can't rename 
> > Can't copy 
> > Can't move 
> > Can't view 
> > Can't cut or paste from it 
> > Can't backup 
> > Can't get Properties 
> > Can't get filesize 
> > Can't confirm existence ! 
> > (but it does show up as a file!) 
> >  
> > To answer a few questions, it does not 
> > use the HIDDEN, ARCHIVE, or SYSTEM flags, it's 
> > much deeper then that.  I'd let ya know but that 
> > would be TELLING !  Suffice it to say that the 
> > filename is ahhm, illegal ??  :) 
> >  
> > Very nice !  So I see now I can make a 100% 
> > file protector in the future of Win98 as well ! 
> >  
> > What I wrote years ago was interesting. 
> > It was a little program that allowed you to 
> > run 100% inaccessible software that I made so 
> > for installation, let me check PKZIP on this.. 
> >  
> > Very good !  It CAN be PKUNZIPed by DOS, 
> > let me check WinZip.. 
> >  
> > WinZip will not acknowledge it correctly. 
> > Okay, but that means I can severely encrypt 
> > the .EXE file and only unencrypt when the 
> > bit is set correctly in it. 
> >  
> > Yah I'm rambling, okay what it did I wrote 
> > it for companies years ago, it would 
> > allow any software written either by myself 
> > or others to be kept on a strict clock ! 
> >  
> > The only way you could run the encrypted 
> > software was by setting that highly inaccessible 
> > bit 
> >  
> > Soo you could easily make a program that logged 
> > each time you ran this special file, allowed you 
> > only so many times to run it, or days to run it, 
> > or both. 
> >  
> > Tom, if you're doing commercial software you might
> 
> > enjoy this.  Lemme pick up the pieces for it. 
> >  
> > Was originally called Pro Protector, I've gotta 
> > screen-shot, you need to be in real DOS to see 
> > this.. 
> > prologo.com 
> >  
> > Might be interesting to revive it ! 
> > I'll write a real quick program to protect/ 
> > delete a sample text file. 
> > Run this in a fairly small directory because you 
> > can't access it by name, just as being one of the 
> > *.* files and that might make it hard to find if 
> > have 400 files around it. 
> > [enclosed] 
> >  
> > Let's see WHO can get inside to read it ! 
> > It's just a text file right ??? 
> >  
> > Nanee Nanee Boo Boo !  :) 
> >  
> > Sincerely, 
> > David W.
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Hi, Kiddies
I'm sure many of you already know this, but *I* just discovered
another undocumented GFA-W(16) situation:

HIDEM takes effect _O_N_L_Y_ AFTER a window is opened - NEVER before!

If you want to hide it without a window... heh, heh!  You must open
one or the function doesn't work!  So... OPENW #31,-5,0,2,2,0 *OR*
that pesky li'l critter is gonna be right in the middle of *something*.

Add *this* to that looooooooooooooong list of things to REMEMBER!, Ok?
<G>
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:

--- Tom Record
<tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> 
> Hi, Kiddies
> I'm sure many of you already know this, but *I* just
> discovered
> another undocumented GFA-W(16) situation:
> 
> HIDEM takes effect _O_N_L_Y_ AFTER a window is
> opened - NEVER before!
> 
> If you want to hide it without a window... heh, heh!
>  You must open
> one or the function doesn't work!  So... OPENW
> #31,-5,0,2,2,0 *OR*
> that pesky li'l critter is gonna be right in the
> middle of *something*.
> 
> Add *this* to that looooooooooooooong list of things
> to REMEMBER!, Ok?
> <G>
> TomR.

Greets Tom !  You'll have to use my KillMouse to
get around that little quirk !  I'm making use of
Dale's SetMouse variable pointer thingie and it
works !

Okay after a =LOT= of hard work I made a very useful
set of routines tonite:

SaveInternal {file1},{file2}
  This will take file1, which presumably is
  a GFA.EXE, and attach {file2} to it, not so
  difficult but I'm using a complex set of weaving
  elements in it so I have like a volume table of
  contents.  The results ?  You can add and extract
  any # of files including > 64k as you'll see from
  the logo screen and can extract any at random,
  or in any sequence, any number, or just one out
  of hundreds if need be.

LoadInternal {file1},{file2}
  Extracts out internal file2 from file1
  (If it can't be found, it'll let ya know
   and of course you can do a ListInternal {file1}
   to see what the name is since you forgot it so
   soon !)  :)

ListInternal {file1}
  Very smart lists out all piggy-back byte data
  in this .EXE.  I'm using some signals in there
  that say it's mine so it looks for that too so
  no errors occur in Load/Save/ or List.

Here is what ListInternal does with SHOWMOM.EXE.
ListInternal "showmom.exe"
+ begrman.mdz .mdz is my zipped .MID
+ momsday.pic .pic is my zipped .BMP
+ pkunzjr.com move over 8BitTo7, this works much
  faster and zero data statements !

There's just 3 files in there right now.
When it's all done it'll have my system.pic,
plus bunchies of other crunched MIDI .MDZs

I could list out their lengths too in
listInternal but I don't need to so I'm not gonna !

Anyways !  Try it out:

http://www.geocities.com/dw817/gfa/showmom.zip

I'll try and get it completely finished with menu
stuff and music selections before Sunday but I'll
have to zzzip !

Speaking of zzzip, the .EXE is size:
240715

and PKZIPed it is:
239005

a 1710 byte difference or my single .EXE
file is .99% bigger then PKZIPed, almost 1%
but not quite !

Enjoy !

Aaand if you're wondering, my Mom has Irish
Ancestry so she really likes this kinna stuff.  :)

And she's not my real Mom anyways long story --
not good okay well Rose is coming tomorrow she's
like more my Mom anyways okay !

Sincerely,
David W.

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Hi Tom !
I don't know if I'm violating any thing here or
something but here's a real screensaver right
soo why all the fuss with the DLL stuff ?

Okay, enjoy !  :)
[enclosed]

Sincerely,
David W.

--- Tom Record
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> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> 
> Hi, Kiddies
> I'm sure many of you already know this, but *I* just
> discovered
> another undocumented GFA-W(16) situation:
> 
> HIDEM takes effect _O_N_L_Y_ AFTER a window is
> opened - NEVER before!
> 
> If you want to hide it without a window... heh, heh!
>  You must open
> one or the function doesn't work!  So... OPENW
> #31,-5,0,2,2,0 *OR*
> that pesky li'l critter is gonna be right in the
> middle of *something*.
> 
> Add *this* to that looooooooooooooong list of things
> to REMEMBER!, Ok?
> <G>
> TomR.
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
At 10:25 PM 12/05/00 -0700, you wrote:
>Hi Tom !
>I don't know if I'm violating any thing here or
>something but here's a real screensaver right
>soo why all the fuss with the DLL stuff ?
>

Where do you get the *.dll stuff?  I'm NOT sending you ANYTHING that uses'em.

I zipped alyce07g IN it's own dir.  It should have run from there as a *.gfw,
but NOT as *.scr.  To run it as *.scr, just hilight it & hit <Enter>.  To
run *REALLY* as a *.scr, put JUST it & the subdir containing the *.dibs in your
windows dir.  IF the *.scr isn't there in the open, TaskManager won't even look
at it.  If it IS, it will register it in ControlPanel.  The images must remain
in their subdir - I NEVER put a bunch of loose images in the windows dir!  The
*.scr will look for that subdir & load images from it.

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Sorry Tom, not DLLs..

But you are using
  ~GlobalUnlock(hMem&)
  ~GlobalFree(hMem&)

DLL #2,"msvideo.dll"
^ Wait that's a dll right ?

ICM_COMPRESS_GET_FORMAT& = $4004
^ Plink !  Now leaving reality, check your baggage
  please !

~@@ICCompressorChoose(hWnd&,0,ptrBmp%,0,V:CompVars.,V:Buffer$)
^ Urrkhh..  I'm getting dizzy !
  Who took all the valium ??

hTmpHdr& = GlobalAlloc(GMEM_MOVEABLE,szTmpHdr%)
^ Blakkh..

{ptrIccCompress%}.ICCComp_lpInput = ptrBmp% +
{ptrBmp%}.biSize + lenPalette&
^ Okay call the paramedics cause my brain just
  fell outta my ears !

Tom you saying I write complex stuff !
No sooo !  You are Rocket Scientists
just like most everyone in here !  Which is good,
but I can't really knowing whats going on in the
coding.

All that tricky icky binary stuff isn't going to
work on all computer right ? but setpixel MAYBE
that works on most.

Occasions I write something nice okay !
Only reason I write hard stuff some times cause is
I am VERY lazy and like my doodle tricks to make
it easier and later for me.

> Where do you get the *.dll stuff?  I'm NOT sending
> you ANYTHING that uses'em.
> 
> I zipped alyce07g IN it's own dir.  It should have
> run from there as a *.gfw,

* White Screen only

> but NOT as *.scr.  To run it as *.scr, just hilight
> it & hit <Enter>.  To
> run *REALLY* as a *.scr, put JUST it & the subdir
> containing the *.dibs in your
> windows dir.  IF the *.scr isn't there in the open,

* With Dirs in all place correct for run .GFW or
  .SCR, white screen

> TaskManager won't even look
> at it.  If it IS, it will register it in
> ControlPanel.  The images must remain
> in their subdir - I NEVER put a bunch of loose
> images in the windows dir!  The
> *.scr will look for that subdir & load images from
> it.

* Piggyback 'em !

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Ok... look for responses scattered around.

First... I run Yahoo/Bluelight/Spinway ISP - FREE, & on Win95a.  I can't
run *ANYTHING* aimed at Win98!  Win98 sucks mud - among other things!

At 05:57 AM 13/05/00 -0700, you wrote:
>List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Sorry Tom, not DLLs..
>
>But you are using
>  ~GlobalUnlock(hMem&)
>  ~GlobalFree(hMem&)
>

Comes w/ the territory!  Demanded by many things I do.

>
>DLL #2,"msvideo.dll"
>^ Wait that's a dll right ?
>

Very serious question here!  Do you NOT have the capability of watching *.avi?
As far as I know, 98 includes MSV4W - Video for Windows, 32-bit.  If you don't
know, go look in your windows\system dir for msvideo.dll.  It *SHOULD* be there,
or else you know you don't have the complete Win98!!!!!  If you CAN'T run *.avi,
there's proof posative you don't have everything!  There should be a ton of
*.avi
in a windows subdir called "media".

alice07 was compressed by Cinepak (iccvid.dll)... look for that *.dll, too!

My *.scrs go directly into the windows dir.  If, like alice07, there is a folder
with images in it, that folder goes into the windows dir, also.  You can't run
alice07 without Video for Windows!  Shit!  I should leave the "check for
msvideo"
in!  I decided to remove it since you are running Win98.

>From here down, you're yelling about calls to msvideo.dll - a system *.dll that 
is supposed to be in your system dir!  I shouldn't have to furnish these -
they're
supposed to already be there.  Sorta explains the white screen!  msvideo.dll
makes 
calls to others that may end w/ *.dll or *.ax - still msvideo system *.dlls.
They
are the Codecs.

>
>ICM_COMPRESS_GET_FORMAT& = $4004
>^ Plink !  Now leaving reality, check your baggage
>  please !
>
>~@@ICCompressorChoose(hWnd&,0,ptrBmp%,0,V:CompVars.,V:Buffer$)
>^ Urrkhh..  I'm getting dizzy !
>  Who took all the valium ??
>
>hTmpHdr& = GlobalAlloc(GMEM_MOVEABLE,szTmpHdr%)
>^ Blakkh..
>
>{ptrIccCompress%}.ICCComp_lpInput = ptrBmp% +
>{ptrBmp%}.biSize + lenPalette&
>^ Okay call the paramedics cause my brain just
>  fell outta my ears !
>
>Tom you saying I write complex stuff !
>No sooo !  You are Rocket Scientists
>just like most everyone in here !  Which is good,
>but I can't really knowing whats going on in the
>coding.
>
>All that tricky icky binary stuff isn't going to
>work on all computer right ? but setpixel MAYBE
>that works on most.
>
>Occasions I write something nice okay !
>Only reason I write hard stuff some times cause is
>I am VERY lazy and like my doodle tricks to make
>it easier and later for me.
>
>> Where do you get the *.dll stuff?  I'm NOT sending
>> you ANYTHING that uses'em.
>> 
>> I zipped alyce07g IN it's own dir.  It should have
>> run from there as a *.gfw,
>
>* White Screen only
>
>> but NOT as *.scr.  To run it as *.scr, just hilight
>> it & hit <Enter>.  To
>> run *REALLY* as a *.scr, put JUST it & the subdir
>> containing the *.dibs in your
>> windows dir.  IF the *.scr isn't there in the open,
>
>* With Dirs in all place correct for run .GFW or
>  .SCR, white screen
>
>> TaskManager won't even look
>> at it.  If it IS, it will register it in
>> ControlPanel.  The images must remain
>> in their subdir - I NEVER put a bunch of loose
>> images in the windows dir!  The
>> *.scr will look for that subdir & load images from
>> it.
>
>* Piggyback 'em !
>

Just how do you propose I do that & then be able to load'em?  I put nearly
ALL in
a *.res file that is $LNKed into the executable.  I haven't worked out all
of the
bugs w/ doing this in the Codec routines - I bomb hell out of my computer
hundreds
of times a day working on this situation.

>
>Sincerely,
>David W.
>
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List Member "Bev Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
Blood pressure, Tom, blood pressure!  <g>   But you are correct...

                             -->Bev<--

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Subject: Re: [gfabasic] HIDEM/SHOWM saga, another chapter


> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Ok... look for responses scattered around.
>
> First... I run Yahoo/Bluelight/Spinway ISP - FREE, & on Win95a.  I can't
> run *ANYTHING* aimed at Win98!  Win98 sucks mud - among other things!
>
> At 05:57 AM 13/05/00 -0700, you wrote:
> >List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >Sorry Tom, not DLLs..
> >
> >But you are using
> >  ~GlobalUnlock(hMem&)
> >  ~GlobalFree(hMem&)
> >
>
> Comes w/ the territory!  Demanded by many things I do.
>
> >
> >DLL #2,"msvideo.dll"
> >^ Wait that's a dll right ?
> >
>
> Very serious question here!  Do you NOT have the capability of watching
*.avi?
> As far as I know, 98 includes MSV4W - Video for Windows, 32-bit.  If you
don't
> know, go look in your windows\system dir for msvideo.dll.  It *SHOULD* be
there,
> or else you know you don't have the complete Win98!!!!!  If you CAN'T run
*.avi,
> there's proof posative you don't have everything!  There should be a ton
of
> *.avi
> in a windows subdir called "media".
>
> alice07 was compressed by Cinepak (iccvid.dll)... look for that *.dll,
too!
>
> My *.scrs go directly into the windows dir.  If, like alice07, there is a
folder
> with images in it, that folder goes into the windows dir, also.  You can't
run
> alice07 without Video for Windows!  Shit!  I should leave the "check for
> msvideo"
> in!  I decided to remove it since you are running Win98.
>
> From here down, you're yelling about calls to msvideo.dll - a system *.dll
that
> is supposed to be in your system dir!  I shouldn't have to furnish these -
> they're
> supposed to already be there.  Sorta explains the white screen!
msvideo.dll
> makes
> calls to others that may end w/ *.dll or *.ax - still msvideo system
*.dlls.
> They
> are the Codecs.
>
> >
> >ICM_COMPRESS_GET_FORMAT& = $4004
> >^ Plink !  Now leaving reality, check your baggage
> >  please !
> >
> >~@@ICCompressorChoose(hWnd&,0,ptrBmp%,0,V:CompVars.,V:Buffer$)
> >^ Urrkhh..  I'm getting dizzy !
> >  Who took all the valium ??
> >
> >hTmpHdr& = GlobalAlloc(GMEM_MOVEABLE,szTmpHdr%)
> >^ Blakkh..
> >
> >{ptrIccCompress%}.ICCComp_lpInput = ptrBmp% +
> >{ptrBmp%}.biSize + lenPalette&
> >^ Okay call the paramedics cause my brain just
> >  fell outta my ears !
> >
> >Tom you saying I write complex stuff !
> >No sooo !  You are Rocket Scientists
> >just like most everyone in here !  Which is good,
> >but I can't really knowing whats going on in the
> >coding.
> >
> >All that tricky icky binary stuff isn't going to
> >work on all computer right ? but setpixel MAYBE
> >that works on most.
> >
> >Occasions I write something nice okay !
> >Only reason I write hard stuff some times cause is
> >I am VERY lazy and like my doodle tricks to make
> >it easier and later for me.
> >
> >> Where do you get the *.dll stuff?  I'm NOT sending
> >> you ANYTHING that uses'em.
> >>
> >> I zipped alyce07g IN it's own dir.  It should have
> >> run from there as a *.gfw,
> >
> >* White Screen only
> >
> >> but NOT as *.scr.  To run it as *.scr, just hilight
> >> it & hit <Enter>.  To
> >> run *REALLY* as a *.scr, put JUST it & the subdir
> >> containing the *.dibs in your
> >> windows dir.  IF the *.scr isn't there in the open,
> >
> >* With Dirs in all place correct for run .GFW or
> >  .SCR, white screen
> >
> >> TaskManager won't even look
> >> at it.  If it IS, it will register it in
> >> ControlPanel.  The images must remain
> >> in their subdir - I NEVER put a bunch of loose
> >> images in the windows dir!  The
> >> *.scr will look for that subdir & load images from
> >> it.
> >
> >* Piggyback 'em !
> >
>
> Just how do you propose I do that & then be able to load'em?  I put nearly
> ALL in
> a *.res file that is $LNKed into the executable.  I haven't worked out all
> of the
> bugs w/ doing this in the Codec routines - I bomb hell out of my computer
> hundreds
> of times a day working on this situation.
>
> >
> >Sincerely,
> >David W.
> >
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:

--- Tom Record
<tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Ok... look for responses scattered around.
> 
> First... I run Yahoo/Bluelight/Spinway ISP - FREE, &
> on Win95a.  I can't
> run *ANYTHING* aimed at Win98!  Win98 sucks mud -
> among other things!

* Really ??  It crashes less then Win95 I had
  years earlier.  Dad put in Win98 cause it running
  better.

> 
> At 05:57 AM 13/05/00 -0700, you wrote:
> >List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >Sorry Tom, not DLLs..
> >
> >But you are using
> >  ~GlobalUnlock(hMem&)
> >  ~GlobalFree(hMem&)
> >
> 
> Comes w/ the territory!  Demanded by many things I
> do.
> 
> >
> >DLL #2,"msvideo.dll"
> >^ Wait that's a dll right ?
> >
> 
> Very serious question here!  Do you NOT have the
> capability of watching *.avi?
> As far as I know, 98 includes MSV4W - Video for
> Windows, 32-bit.  If you don't
> know, go look in your windows\system dir for
> msvideo.dll.  It *SHOULD* be there,
> or else you know you don't have the complete
> Win98!!!!!  If you CAN'T run *.avi,
> there's proof posative you don't have everything! 
> There should be a ton of
> *.avi
> in a windows subdir called "media".

Nono avi..  There's a .WAV !  Played it makes
startup sound neat !  :)

I use a nice DOS program to look at all those
good AVIs, but I like .MPG better.  Is .MPG better
then .AVI and is there a way to convert .RM to
.MPG and .RA to .MP3 ?

> 
> alice07 was compressed by Cinepak (iccvid.dll)...
> look for that *.dll, too!

No iccvid.dll either windows\ or windows\system
> 
> My *.scrs go directly into the windows dir.  If,
> like alice07, there is a folder
> with images in it, that folder goes into the windows
> dir, also.  You can't run
> alice07 without Video for Windows!  Shit!  I should
> leave the "check for
> msvideo"
> in!  I decided to remove it since you are running
> Win98.
> 
> From here down, you're yelling about calls to
> msvideo.dll - a system *.dll that 
> is supposed to be in your system dir!  I shouldn't
> have to furnish these -
> they're
> supposed to already be there.  Sorta explains the
> white screen!  msvideo.dll
> makes 
> calls to others that may end w/ *.dll or *.ax -
> still msvideo system *.dlls.
> They
> are the Codecs.

No  dlls except the msvideo.dll, maybe include copy
of DLL with package ?
> 
> >
> >ICM_COMPRESS_GET_FORMAT& = $4004
> >^ Plink !  Now leaving reality, check your baggage
> >  please !
> >
>
>~@@ICCompressorChoose(hWnd&,0,ptrBmp%,0,V:CompVars.,V:Buffer$)
> >^ Urrkhh..  I'm getting dizzy !
> >  Who took all the valium ??
> >
> >hTmpHdr& = GlobalAlloc(GMEM_MOVEABLE,szTmpHdr%)
> >^ Blakkh..
> >
> >{ptrIccCompress%}.ICCComp_lpInput = ptrBmp% +
> >{ptrBmp%}.biSize + lenPalette&
> >^ Okay call the paramedics cause my brain just
> >  fell outta my ears !
> >
> >Tom you saying I write complex stuff !
> >No sooo !  You are Rocket Scientists
> >just like most everyone in here !  Which is good,
> >but I can't really knowing whats going on in the
> >coding.
> >
> >All that tricky icky binary stuff isn't going to
> >work on all computer right ? but setpixel MAYBE
> >that works on most.
> >
> >Occasions I write something nice okay !
> >Only reason I write hard stuff some times cause is
> >I am VERY lazy and like my doodle tricks to make
> >it easier and later for me.
> >
> >> Where do you get the *.dll stuff?  I'm NOT
> sending
> >> you ANYTHING that uses'em.
> >> 
> >> I zipped alyce07g IN it's own dir.  It should
> have
> >> run from there as a *.gfw,
> >
> >* White Screen only
> >
> >> but NOT as *.scr.  To run it as *.scr, just
> hilight
> >> it & hit <Enter>.  To
> >> run *REALLY* as a *.scr, put JUST it & the subdir
> >> containing the *.dibs in your
> >> windows dir.  IF the *.scr isn't there in the
> open,
> >
> >* With Dirs in all place correct for run .GFW or
> >  .SCR, white screen
> >
> >> TaskManager won't even look
> >> at it.  If it IS, it will register it in
> >> ControlPanel.  The images must remain
> >> in their subdir - I NEVER put a bunch of loose
> >> images in the windows dir!  The
> >> *.scr will look for that subdir & load images
> from
> >> it.
> >
> >* Piggyback 'em !
> >
> 
> Just how do you propose I do that & then be able to
> load'em?  I put nearly
> ALL in
> a *.res file that is $LNKed into the executable.  I
> haven't worked out all
> of the
> bugs w/ doing this in the Codec routines - I bomb
> hell out of my computer
> hundreds
> of times a day working on this situation.

* Hey !  Good job they're all in one file now.
  Send that maybe and it runs better !  :)
  Shouldn't need to bomb computer unless you're
  using Russell's WindowLock of course in THAT case
  it's worth it and just use GFAWizard to make your
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  with any errors and stuff same should be true
  if you write own error it will check now and a
  different time tomorrow for errors clean up all
  memory and no having reboot.

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--- Bev Brown <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
> List Member "Bev Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com>
> wrote:
> Blood pressure, Tom, blood pressure!  <g>   But you
> are correct...
> 
>                              -->Bev<--

Hi Bev look guys I'm not trying to get crossways
or anything I just base software on it runs or don't.

Dad gets all crossways with me cause he show me
something and it not going work on my computer I
say not running and he say well it runs its your
fault and I say ?huh?  :)

I tried buy computer games for IBM years ago, they
all mess up computer so I just buy Playstation games
now.  One flavor one disc works every time.

This is kinna how I like writing software so it
runs on every one computer.  It may not be so fast
or pretty but I more important want it to run on
most computers.  I like GFA16 I can run on my
laptop 286 Win3.1 !  That's added benefit I see that
GFA16 don't need to have Win98 or stuff.

That's all.  Tom I'm sorry if I yell at you or
some thing I hate it when IBM software don't work
cause usually I payed for it cause the box in the
store looks really good.  I don't do that anyways
and test my stuff on mine, Dad's, my sister's, and
Chris, my videogame friend and excellent watcher
of Anime.

If they all run there I say okay looks good I think
it'll run well on most and I all ways want someone
let me know if my stuff not running.

Tom you said my software not run please let me know
which and I'll try to fix it cause I like running
software that is well..  Okay.

I really like my piggy-back data thingie and wonder
if it going to run well on my Mom's computer cause
that
kinna not the gift looking well if it don't work
right ?  :)

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
David
Delete alice07g, all files.  Every bit of it.  You don't have msvideo on
your computer... makes me wonder what else is missing!  You should go into
MS & download msvideo, or look on ANY CD that has any sort of multimedia on
it - there will be a dir that is just msvideo - usually v1.1a or 1.1b.  1.1a
is the minimum that will run anything I write using msvideo.

For me, *.mpg is MUCH better than *.avi, altho I can't pull images out of all
the various configurations & I CAN break any */avi down to images & sound.

*.ra, *.ram, *.rm & *.mp3... SUCK!  I can't pull *ANYTHING* out of RealPlay
files & don't have a single *.mp3 on here!

I try like all hell to avoid bombing *ANY* computer, mine in particular!
TomR.


At 11:28 AM 13/05/00 -0700, you wrote:
>List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>--- Tom Record
><tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> List Member Tom Record
>> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> Ok... look for responses scattered around.
>> 
>> First... I run Yahoo/Bluelight/Spinway ISP - FREE, &
>> on Win95a.  I can't
>> run *ANYTHING* aimed at Win98!  Win98 sucks mud -
>> among other things!
>
>* Really ??  It crashes less then Win95 I had
>  years earlier.  Dad put in Win98 cause it running
>  better.
>
>> 
>> At 05:57 AM 13/05/00 -0700, you wrote:
>> >List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >Sorry Tom, not DLLs..
>> >
>> >But you are using
>> >  ~GlobalUnlock(hMem&)
>> >  ~GlobalFree(hMem&)
>> >
>> 
>> Comes w/ the territory!  Demanded by many things I
>> do.
>> 
>> >
>> >DLL #2,"msvideo.dll"
>> >^ Wait that's a dll right ?
>> >
>> 
>> Very serious question here!  Do you NOT have the
>> capability of watching *.avi?
>> As far as I know, 98 includes MSV4W - Video for
>> Windows, 32-bit.  If you don't
>> know, go look in your windows\system dir for
>> msvideo.dll.  It *SHOULD* be there,
>> or else you know you don't have the complete
>> Win98!!!!!  If you CAN'T run *.avi,
>> there's proof posative you don't have everything! 
>> There should be a ton of
>> *.avi
>> in a windows subdir called "media".
>
>Nono avi..  There's a .WAV !  Played it makes
>startup sound neat !  :)
>
>I use a nice DOS program to look at all those
>good AVIs, but I like .MPG better.  Is .MPG better
>then .AVI and is there a way to convert .RM to
>.MPG and .RA to .MP3 ?
>
>> 
>> alice07 was compressed by Cinepak (iccvid.dll)...
>> look for that *.dll, too!
>
>No iccvid.dll either windows\ or windows\system
>> 
>> My *.scrs go directly into the windows dir.  If,
>> like alice07, there is a folder
>> with images in it, that folder goes into the windows
>> dir, also.  You can't run
>> alice07 without Video for Windows!  Shit!  I should
>> leave the "check for
>> msvideo"
>> in!  I decided to remove it since you are running
>> Win98.
>> 
>> From here down, you're yelling about calls to
>> msvideo.dll - a system *.dll that 
>> is supposed to be in your system dir!  I shouldn't
>> have to furnish these -
>> they're
>> supposed to already be there.  Sorta explains the
>> white screen!  msvideo.dll
>> makes 
>> calls to others that may end w/ *.dll or *.ax -
>> still msvideo system *.dlls.
>> They
>> are the Codecs.
>
>No  dlls except the msvideo.dll, maybe include copy
>of DLL with package ?
>> 
>> >
>> >ICM_COMPRESS_GET_FORMAT& = $4004
>> >^ Plink !  Now leaving reality, check your baggage
>> >  please !
>> >
>>
>>~@@ICCompressorChoose(hWnd&,0,ptrBmp%,0,V:CompVars.,V:Buffer$)
>> >^ Urrkhh..  I'm getting dizzy !
>> >  Who took all the valium ??
>> >
>> >hTmpHdr& = GlobalAlloc(GMEM_MOVEABLE,szTmpHdr%)
>> >^ Blakkh..
>> >
>> >{ptrIccCompress%}.ICCComp_lpInput = ptrBmp% +
>> >{ptrBmp%}.biSize + lenPalette&
>> >^ Okay call the paramedics cause my brain just
>> >  fell outta my ears !
>> >
>> >Tom you saying I write complex stuff !
>> >No sooo !  You are Rocket Scientists
>> >just like most everyone in here !  Which is good,
>> >but I can't really knowing whats going on in the
>> >coding.
>> >
>> >All that tricky icky binary stuff isn't going to
>> >work on all computer right ? but setpixel MAYBE
>> >that works on most.
>> >
>> >Occasions I write something nice okay !
>> >Only reason I write hard stuff some times cause is
>> >I am VERY lazy and like my doodle tricks to make
>> >it easier and later for me.
>> >
>> >> Where do you get the *.dll stuff?  I'm NOT
>> sending
>> >> you ANYTHING that uses'em.
>> >> 
>> >> I zipped alyce07g IN it's own dir.  It should
>> have
>> >> run from there as a *.gfw,
>> >
>> >* White Screen only
>> >
>> >> but NOT as *.scr.  To run it as *.scr, just
>> hilight
>> >> it & hit <Enter>.  To
>> >> run *REALLY* as a *.scr, put JUST it & the subdir
>> >> containing the *.dibs in your
>> >> windows dir.  IF the *.scr isn't there in the
>> open,
>> >
>> >* With Dirs in all place correct for run .GFW or
>> >  .SCR, white screen
>> >
>> >> TaskManager won't even look
>> >> at it.  If it IS, it will register it in
>> >> ControlPanel.  The images must remain
>> >> in their subdir - I NEVER put a bunch of loose
>> >> images in the windows dir!  The
>> >> *.scr will look for that subdir & load images
>> from
>> >> it.
>> >
>> >* Piggyback 'em !
>> >
>> 
>> Just how do you propose I do that & then be able to
>> load'em?  I put nearly
>> ALL in
>> a *.res file that is $LNKed into the executable.  I
>> haven't worked out all
>> of the
>> bugs w/ doing this in the Codec routines - I bomb
>> hell out of my computer
>> hundreds
>> of times a day working on this situation.
>
>* Hey !  Good job they're all in one file now.
>  Send that maybe and it runs better !  :)
>  Shouldn't need to bomb computer unless you're
>  using Russell's WindowLock of course in THAT case
>  it's worth it and just use GFAWizard to make your
>  own error check stuff so all memory is happy
>  with any errors and stuff same should be true
>  if you write own error it will check now and a
>  different time tomorrow for errors clean up all
>  memory and no having reboot.
>
>Sincerely,
>David W.
>
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
David
The ONLY secure "run on anything" software is DOS, written to soothe an 8086/88!

Your Win98 installation is incomplete!  Period!  Either your dad doesn't have it
all & doesn't know it, or he thinks you don't need a bunch of it.  Any way
you look
at it, you're about 30Megs or so short of a full OS.

I have several things you sent that jump into a DOS box situation... IN & OUT in
a flash & NOTHING happens.  I'm not going back to run all that to see which.  
Hell, the 2 or 3 things I've tried to modify & learn a little about can't be
used
as yet & I don't understand 1/4 of what it takes to make'em work.  I want to
learn from you, but in baby-bites, not horse-chokers.

I suspect your dad has loaded his Win98 upgrade onto just about all of the
computers
you say are available to you.  If so... they can't run my stuff, either.  No
problem,
I just tried to give you a boost up on screensavers, *.lib & *.res.

TomR.



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>--- Bev Brown <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
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>> wrote:
>> Blood pressure, Tom, blood pressure!  <g>   But you
>> are correct...
>> 
>>                              -->Bev<--
>
>Hi Bev look guys I'm not trying to get crossways
>or anything I just base software on it runs or don't.
>
>Dad gets all crossways with me cause he show me
>something and it not going work on my computer I
>say not running and he say well it runs its your
>fault and I say ?huh?  :)
>
>I tried buy computer games for IBM years ago, they
>all mess up computer so I just buy Playstation games
>now.  One flavor one disc works every time.
>
>This is kinna how I like writing software so it
>runs on every one computer.  It may not be so fast
>or pretty but I more important want it to run on
>most computers.  I like GFA16 I can run on my
>laptop 286 Win3.1 !  That's added benefit I see that
>GFA16 don't need to have Win98 or stuff.
>
>That's all.  Tom I'm sorry if I yell at you or
>some thing I hate it when IBM software don't work
>cause usually I payed for it cause the box in the
>store looks really good.  I don't do that anyways
>and test my stuff on mine, Dad's, my sister's, and
>Chris, my videogame friend and excellent watcher
>of Anime.
>
>If they all run there I say okay looks good I think
>it'll run well on most and I all ways want someone
>let me know if my stuff not running.
>
>Tom you said my software not run please let me know
>which and I'll try to fix it cause I like running
>software that is well..  Okay.
>
>I really like my piggy-back data thingie and wonder
>if it going to run well on my Mom's computer cause
>that
>kinna not the gift looking well if it don't work
>right ?  :)
>
>Sincerely,
>David W.
>
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in the South Pacific, off Hilo, Hawaii.
<G>
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Yes, Tom, mine is gone also but I sure would like to be able to call her.
dale

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From: "Tom Record" <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net>
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> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> As long as it's not expected that she respond!  She's all over the seabed
> in the South Pacific, off Hilo, Hawaii.
> <G>
> TomR.
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> At 12:23 PM 13/05/00 -0700, you wrote:
> >List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> >Don't forget to call your Mother!!
> >
> >Dale Bryant
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--- Dale Bryant <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com>
> wrote:
> Don't forget to call your Mother!!
> 
> Dale Bryant

Hi Ho !

Well it's Mom's Day and I hadda choice.
Rose came to visit, and I either work for her labors
or labor on the code.  Yah well Dad & Mom said we're
not having Mom's Day until next Sunday sooooo
I'll spend some good time and get the nice Irish
Melodies program all proper.

I'll call her today tho, made a nice card for
Rose tho yesterday, here's cover of it.
[enclosed]

I need to make every one a greeting card program I
guess cause I'm all ways using my own I wrote in
GFA.  :)

I just doodled with paper till it comes out looking
good fold over a piece of paper in greeting card works
great, fold twice !

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
UPDATE! - 05/15/2000
GFA 16

CLONE.ZIP by Bev Brown
DLL5CODE by Bev Brown.  Copy.gfw and Kill.gfw are new in the archive.

Don't Miss Them!!
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi Tom.

I made it back to the land of the living.
Rose is only going to visit once every 2 weeks.
I asked her why and she said Jimbo wants to spend
some time with her.  Ah well..  I'm never getting
married so I don't have to mess with all that stuff.

MSVideo is a download from MS ->
+ Many Seasons
+ Marching Soldiers
+ Misinterpreted Solutions
or perhaps just 
Microsoft ?

Prolly the last one.  :)
Is there a Microsoft . com then ?

Sincerely,
David W.

> List Member Tom Record
> David
> Delete alice07g, all files.  Every bit of it.  You
> don't have msvideo on
> your computer... makes me wonder what else is
> missing!  You should go into
> MS & download msvideo, or look on ANY CD that has
> any sort of multimedia on
> it - there will be a dir that is just msvideo -
> usually v1.1a or 1.1b.  1.1a
> is the minimum that will run anything I write using
> msvideo.
> 
> For me, *.mpg is MUCH better than *.avi, altho I
> can't pull images out of all
> the various configurations & I CAN break any */avi
> down to images & sound.
> 
> *.ra, *.ram, *.rm & *.mp3... SUCK!  I can't pull
> *ANYTHING* out of RealPlay
> files & don't have a single *.mp3 on here!
> 
> I try like all hell to avoid bombing *ANY* computer,
> mine in particular!
> TomR.



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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi Tom.

Yah well I've known Dad does some screwy things at
times like made me a strawberry milkshake with
Smuckers Strawberry Preserves and Milk eyyech !!

Or purple cabbage leaves for dinner one nite when I
was 7.  Maaaan me and Michelle couldn't stop being
sick !  Bad stuff..  He's pretty good with electronics
tho.  Made me a gadget box to keep me busy cause I
once got every one in elevator stuck I hit all buttons
at once were in there for 3 hours !  :)

The DOS SHELL should work pretty good now.
My current "working" idea that seems really good is
-->

make batch file called godos.bat, in it its got
(dos command you want)
cd>dosdone.flg

now run that dos shell and wait for the file
dosdone.flg to appear with EXIST, when it does
do a
T=TIMER
WHILE TIMER-T<250 AND TIMER>=T
  PEEKEVENT
WEND
What I calling a hiccup :) to let computer come back
okay normal

and then zap all temporary files like dosdone.flg
and continue on.  Tom if it's not doing that its mine
early DOS SHELL STuffings where I was trying figure
it out okay !  :)

Gustavo sent me source for a screen-saver its kinna
ahhhm- embarassing he used my photo in it !  (Smile)
Really looks goofy but its explaining some simple
stuff I needing to know on screen-savers like
first run instance things.

I didn't knowing it much later my oh-so-easy-as-pie
stars screen-saver kept adding itself another running
every time it got time to run the screen-saver again !
I had like 40 of them all running background I got
back wondering WHY my computer was so slow !
I gotta lot to learn.  :)

Sincerely,
David W.

--- Tom Record
<tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> David
> The ONLY secure "run on anything" software is DOS,
> written to soothe an 8086/88!
> 
> Your Win98 installation is incomplete!  Period! 
> Either your dad doesn't have it
> all & doesn't know it, or he thinks you don't need a
> bunch of it.  Any way
> you look
> at it, you're about 30Megs or so short of a full OS.
> 
> I have several things you sent that jump into a DOS
> box situation... IN & OUT in
> a flash & NOTHING happens.  I'm not going back to
> run all that to see which.  
> Hell, the 2 or 3 things I've tried to modify & learn
> a little about can't be
> used
> as yet & I don't understand 1/4 of what it takes to
> make'em work.  I want to
> learn from you, but in baby-bites, not
> horse-chokers.
> 
> I suspect your dad has loaded his Win98 upgrade onto
> just about all of the
> computers
> you say are available to you.  If so... they can't
> run my stuff, either.  No
> problem,
> I just tried to give you a boost up on screensavers,
> *.lib & *.res.
> 
> TomR.



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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Aren't you lot on the internet ?

I know there some companies out saying free long-
distance call stuff thru internet phone lines maybe
good.  Say they will remove all cost from long-
distance bills and stuff who knows !  :)

Buuut you can send her a nice greeting card ?

Sincerely,
David W.

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> Yes, Tom, mine is gone also but I sure would like to
> be able to call her.
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi Dale:

Don't see CLONE.ZIP.
Wait a sec..
Okay found it, it's near top.
Updated from prior then.

Thanks Bev !
Will check it out !

Sincerely,
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> GFA 16
> 
> CLONE.ZIP by Bev Brown
> DLL5CODE by Bev Brown.  Copy.gfw and Kill.gfw are
> new in the archive.
> 
> Don't Miss Them!!
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
MicroSoft, David!  NOT Maple Syrup!!
If you have a CD or two, LOOK on it or them.  If there's any multimedia on
them, 
there will be msvideo, also.
TomR.


At 06:01 PM 14/05/00 -0700, you wrote:
>List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Hi Tom.
>
>I made it back to the land of the living.
>Rose is only going to visit once every 2 weeks.
>I asked her why and she said Jimbo wants to spend
>some time with her.  Ah well..  I'm never getting
>married so I don't have to mess with all that stuff.
>
>MSVideo is a download from MS ->
>+ Many Seasons
>+ Marching Soldiers
>+ Misinterpreted Solutions
>or perhaps just 
>Microsoft ?
>
>Prolly the last one.  :)
>Is there a Microsoft . com then ?
>
>Sincerely,
>David W.
>
>> List Member Tom Record
>> David
>> Delete alice07g, all files.  Every bit of it.  You
>> don't have msvideo on
>> your computer... makes me wonder what else is
>> missing!  You should go into
>> MS & download msvideo, or look on ANY CD that has
>> any sort of multimedia on
>> it - there will be a dir that is just msvideo -
>> usually v1.1a or 1.1b.  1.1a
>> is the minimum that will run anything I write using
>> msvideo.
>> 
>> For me, *.mpg is MUCH better than *.avi, altho I
>> can't pull images out of all
>> the various configurations & I CAN break any */avi
>> down to images & sound.
>> 
>> *.ra, *.ram, *.rm & *.mp3... SUCK!  I can't pull
>> *ANYTHING* out of RealPlay
>> files & don't have a single *.mp3 on here!
>> 
>> I try like all hell to avoid bombing *ANY* computer,
>> mine in particular!
>> TomR.
>
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Greets Tom:

Maple Syrup !  I knew it was one of those things.
I tell ya that CD holder can't hold nearly as many
pancakes as they say in the ads.  I can only get
3 on there before my computer tips over..

And Tom no CDs why ???  Cause IBM games don't run
on my computer !  I giving all my games years ago
to Chris, my good videogame friend and excellent
watcher of Anime.  Any games I play is on Playstation
or IBM emulators.

Oh !  I finally understanding what the _INSTANCE
thingie does.  Posting new Sparkly Stars to Dale
let's see if it's good now.

Sincerely,
David W.

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> List Member Tom Record
> MicroSoft, David!  NOT Maple Syrup!!
> If you have a CD or two, LOOK on it or them.  If
> there's any multimedia on
> them, 
> there will be msvideo, also.
> TomR.

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List Member "Bev Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
I found MSVIDEO.DLL in \WINDOWS & \WINDOWS\SYSBCKUP (also, on both
computers). I'm running Win98 scr II on both. I did NOT have to dl it from
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> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> MicroSoft, David!  NOT Maple Syrup!!
> If you have a CD or two, LOOK on it or them.  If there's any multimedia on
> them,
> there will be msvideo, also.
> TomR.
>
>
> At 06:01 PM 14/05/00 -0700, you wrote:
> >List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >Hi Tom.
> >
> >I made it back to the land of the living.
> >Rose is only going to visit once every 2 weeks.
> >I asked her why and she said Jimbo wants to spend
> >some time with her.  Ah well..  I'm never getting
> >married so I don't have to mess with all that stuff.
> >
> >MSVideo is a download from MS ->
> >+ Many Seasons
> >+ Marching Soldiers
> >+ Misinterpreted Solutions
> >or perhaps just
> >Microsoft ?
> >
> >Prolly the last one.  :)
> >Is there a Microsoft . com then ?
> >
> >Sincerely,
> >David W.
> >
> >> List Member Tom Record
> >> David
> >> Delete alice07g, all files.  Every bit of it.  You
> >> don't have msvideo on
> >> your computer... makes me wonder what else is
> >> missing!  You should go into
> >> MS & download msvideo, or look on ANY CD that has
> >> any sort of multimedia on
> >> it - there will be a dir that is just msvideo -
> >> usually v1.1a or 1.1b.  1.1a
> >> is the minimum that will run anything I write using
> >> msvideo.
> >>
> >> For me, *.mpg is MUCH better than *.avi, altho I
> >> can't pull images out of all
> >> the various configurations & I CAN break any */avi
> >> down to images & sound.
> >>
> >> *.ra, *.ram, *.rm & *.mp3... SUCK!  I can't pull
> >> *ANYTHING* out of RealPlay
> >> files & don't have a single *.mp3 on here!
> >>
> >> I try like all hell to avoid bombing *ANY* computer,
> >> mine in particular!
> >> TomR.
> >
> >
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List Member Jim Pennington <Jim@x-act.net> wrote:
David,

"secretcode|" is just the ascii value of the "illegal" character that is at the
front of the filename, in this case 255. It's interesting that it's not really an
illegal character, but many Windoze modules, such as the file selector, consider it
so. That file can be copied, renamed, deleted, etc. directly via DOS if you know
the value of the unknown character. The easiest way to do that is DIR > dir.txt
under DOS and then look at dir.txt with a hex editor. If the character is not
available via the keyboard, DOS allows you to hold down the ALT key while typing
the decimal value of the char.

Jim Pennington

P.S. I didn't think to try it, because I wanted to see the value of the "illegal"
character, but "COPY ?nanyboo.txt gotcha.txt", "DEL ?nanyboo.txt", and any other
commands which allow wild card characters should work without knowing the value of
the character.

Jim



> List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote: 
> Congratulations ! 
> Good job Jim ! 
>    
> Mind you, I wrote that years ago when ANSI 
> was lord over all and DOS was the new messiah.  :) 
>    
> Certainly it kept out those not familiar with 
> programming.  Kudos on your technique to get it out ! 
>    
> It's strange that Windows behaves so oddly when it 
> comes across such a file.  I suppose .EXE 
> encryption would be the final word in it. 
>    
> May play with something like that if the urge hits 
> me. 
>  
> Right now it's all most Mother's Day and I'm working 
> on a prezzy for my mom.  I'll post a copy in here 
> since it's for the holidays. 
>  
> Now a question for you Jim: 
> What was the technique I used to make that file 
> inaccessible ? 
>  
> And what is the variable: 
> secretcode|=ASC(file$) 
>  
> Just Curious ! 
>  
> Sincerely, 
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List Member Engelbert van Loock <Engelbert.v@n.loock.com> wrote:
> *.ra, *.ram, *.rm & *.mp3... SUCK!  I can't pull *ANYTHING* out of RealPlay
> files & don't have a single *.mp3 on here!
> 

A little hint to Tom and who ever is interested: When you try to get
only a single image out of a Real movie via the clipboard by pressing
the (Alt +) Print button(s), the Real output window appears completely
lilac. But if the fullscreen view is selected the Print button copies
the image to the clipboard in its original size.

It's not the final wisdom but there software available that extends the
ability of the clipboard so more then one screenshot can be stored to
it.

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--- Jim Pennington <Jim@x-act.net> wrote:
> David,
> "secretcode|" is just the ascii value of the
> "illegal" character that is at the
> front of the filename, in this case 255. It's
> interesting that it's not really an
> illegal character, but many Windoze modules, such as
> the file selector, consider it
> so.

Huum !!  Well you're not supposed to know so much
about DOS you smartie-pants !  :)

I thought Windows had corrupted the minds of all
new computer-users, guess I was mistaken.
Maybe a few years from now, maybe then my DOS
tricks would baffle non-DOS programming computer
users.  :)

Okay DALE you gave credit to:
+ Here is another version by John
+ Here is a very good color selector by Michael 
  Kroeger and Tom record
 
But not to me for first entry ??
FUNCTION AreWeCompiled
LOCAL A
TRY
A = 0 / 0
RETURN -1
CATCH
RETURN 0
ENDFUNC

I'm gonna presume you didn't know who posted
that okay so you get off the hook this time !  :)

Okay Here is "Space Traveler" a fairly neat
excursion into the wonderful world of TRUE
Screen-Savers.
[enclosed]

Giving CREDIT where credit is
most certainly due to:
+ Gustavo
  for his GetModuleUsage(_INSTANCE)
  There is NO way I would have ever found out about
  this or guessed that it checks for multiple
  instances of a screen-saver running.
  Thanks Gustavo !
+ Tom Record
  For his  $LNK EXE  routine to give a much better
  description that is seen in the screen-saver
  selections, Kudos Tom !

Enjoy !

Sincerely,
David W.

How to call in well (in 3 steps)
1. Call boss.
2. Explain say that you feel wonderful,
   and will be in "first-thing" to-morrow.
3. Ever so gently, hang up.


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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
David, I am sorry. I will correct the oversight.
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----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Monday, May 15, 2000 12:07 PM
Subject: [gfabasic] Solved Protection & New Screen-Saver !


> --- Jim Pennington <Jim@x-act.net> wrote:
> > David,
> > "secretcode|" is just the ascii value of the
> > "illegal" character that is at the
> > front of the filename, in this case 255. It's
> > interesting that it's not really an
> > illegal character, but many Windoze modules, such as
> > the file selector, consider it
> > so.
>
> Huum !!  Well you're not supposed to know so much
> about DOS you smartie-pants !  :)
>
> I thought Windows had corrupted the minds of all
> new computer-users, guess I was mistaken.
> Maybe a few years from now, maybe then my DOS
> tricks would baffle non-DOS programming computer
> users.  :)
>
> Okay DALE you gave credit to:
> + Here is another version by John
> + Here is a very good color selector by Michael
>   Kroeger and Tom record
>
> But not to me for first entry ??
> FUNCTION AreWeCompiled
> LOCAL A
> TRY
> A = 0 / 0
> RETURN -1
> CATCH
> RETURN 0
> ENDFUNC
>
> I'm gonna presume you didn't know who posted
> that okay so you get off the hook this time !  :)
>
> Okay Here is "Space Traveler" a fairly neat
> excursion into the wonderful world of TRUE
> Screen-Savers.
> [enclosed]
>
> Giving CREDIT where credit is
> most certainly due to:
> + Gustavo
>   for his GetModuleUsage(_INSTANCE)
>   There is NO way I would have ever found out about
>   this or guessed that it checks for multiple
>   instances of a screen-saver running.
>   Thanks Gustavo !
> + Tom Record
>   For his  $LNK EXE  routine to give a much better
>   description that is seen in the screen-saver
>   selections, Kudos Tom !
>
> Enjoy !
>
> Sincerely,
> David W.
>
> How to call in well (in 3 steps)
> 1. Call boss.
> 2. Explain say that you feel wonderful,
>    and will be in "first-thing" to-morrow.
> 3. Ever so gently, hang up.
>
>
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List Member Vogel Michael <vo@schoeller.at> wrote:
Nice,
just change one line please, to be compatible to Win 3.x:

	if _dosCmd$ <>"/s" 

should be...

	if lower$(_dosCmd$) = "/c"

Michael

> ----------
> Von: 	David Wicker[SMTP:dw817@yahoo.com]
> Gesendet: 	Mo, 15. Mai 2000 21:07
> An: 	gfabasic@gfa.net
> Betreff: 	[gfabasic] Solved Protection & New Screen-Saver !
> 
> <<Datei: Spactrav.zip>>
> --- Jim Pennington <Jim@x-act.net> wrote:
> > David,
> > "secretcode|" is just the ascii value of the
> > "illegal" character that is at the
> > front of the filename, in this case 255. It's
> > interesting that it's not really an
> > illegal character, but many Windoze modules, such as
> > the file selector, consider it
> > so.
> 
> Huum !!  Well you're not supposed to know so much
> about DOS you smartie-pants !  :)
> 
> I thought Windows had corrupted the minds of all
> new computer-users, guess I was mistaken.
> Maybe a few years from now, maybe then my DOS
> tricks would baffle non-DOS programming computer
> users.  :)
> 
> Okay DALE you gave credit to:
> + Here is another version by John
> + Here is a very good color selector by Michael 
>   Kroeger and Tom record
>  
> But not to me for first entry ??
> FUNCTION AreWeCompiled
> LOCAL A
> TRY
> A = 0 / 0
> RETURN -1
> CATCH
> RETURN 0
> ENDFUNC
> 
> I'm gonna presume you didn't know who posted
> that okay so you get off the hook this time !  :)
> 
> Okay Here is "Space Traveler" a fairly neat
> excursion into the wonderful world of TRUE
> Screen-Savers.
> [enclosed]
> 
> Giving CREDIT where credit is
> most certainly due to:
> + Gustavo
>   for his GetModuleUsage(_INSTANCE)
>   There is NO way I would have ever found out about
>   this or guessed that it checks for multiple
>   instances of a screen-saver running.
>   Thanks Gustavo !
> + Tom Record
>   For his  $LNK EXE  routine to give a much better
>   description that is seen in the screen-saver
>   selections, Kudos Tom !
> 
> Enjoy !
> 
> Sincerely,
> David W.
> 
> How to call in well (in 3 steps)
> 1. Call boss.
> 2. Explain say that you feel wonderful,
>    and will be in "first-thing" to-morrow.
> 3. Ever so gently, hang up.
> 
> 
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List Member tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net wrote:
Engelbert
Neat idea, Boss!  But... I wouldn't be fast enough to ge any *given* 
image <G>.  The 3 "r"s I'm interested in from the standpoint of 
being able to bring out the images in sequence so I can Codec-
compress them & make either an animation or screensaver from 
them.  I can do this w/ *.avi, *.flc, *.fli, *.gif, *.mpg now.
<G>
TomR.


On 15 May 2000, at 18:43, Engelbert van Loock wrote:

> List Member Engelbert van Loock <Engelbert.v@n.loock.com> wrote:
> > *.ra, *.ram, *.rm & *.mp3... SUCK!  I can't pull *ANYTHING* out of
> > RealPlay files & don't have a single *.mp3 on here!
> > 
> 
> A little hint to Tom and who ever is interested: When you try to get
> only a single image out of a Real movie via the clipboard by pressing
> the (Alt +) Print button(s), the Real output window appears completely
> lilac. But if the fullscreen view is selected the Print button copies
> the image to the clipboard in its original size.
> 
> It's not the final wisdom but there software available that extends
> the ability of the clipboard so more then one screenshot can be stored
> to it.
> 
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List Member tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net wrote:
5:10, morning!
Learned a lot!  New 56k modem, lost HD, lost sound, couldn't find 
new modem...  Watch out!
<G>
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Well Greets Tom:
I didn't know you were gone that long !
You'll have to stay hidden longer then that if
you want us to start missing you !  :P

(Just teasing ya!) :)

Yah you can buy a 56k modem now for about $8 !
I'm toting my computer over to Dad's sometime this
week or the next to get this slow 14.4 baudite
outta here.

Sincerely,
David W.

- + -
How to make a Snow Angel (in 3 steps)

1. Lie down in fresh snow.
2. Flap arms and spread legs a few times.
3. Get up.  Evaluate angel.  Make more.
- + -

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> new modem...  Watch out!
> <G>
> TomR.
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
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--- Vogel Michael <vo@schoeller.at> wrote:
> List Member Vogel Michael <vo@schoeller.at> wrote:
> Nice,
> just change one line please, to be compatible to Win
> 3.x:
> 
> 	if _dosCmd$ <>"/s" 
> 
> should be...
> 
> 	if lower$(_dosCmd$) = "/c"
> 
> Michael
> 

Greets Michael !
Hey !  Thanks for the info !  I hadn't tried it on
my laptop yet and didn't know if the _DOSCMD$ would
need to be varied any.

Recording it now...

Update Posted
[enclosed]

Don't fall asleep just yet !
Confessions of a prior DOS USER are next !  :)

Sincerely,
David W.
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1. Divide (diplomatically) into pairs.
2. Climb aboard partner's shoulders.
3. Thrash about like chickens
   (until realizing how utterly
    ridiculous you all look).
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From: David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com>
Subject: [gfabasic] Confessions of a DOS User
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
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Private Confessions of a DOS User ...

David:
  Forgive me Father for I have sinned.
  It has been - it has been a long time since I have
  come to confession.  The burden weighs heavily
  inside me and I cannot contain the evil anymore.

Deacon:
  Please tell me what you have done that you feel
  is so evil and wrong.

David:
  Father, I have been using DOS.  Yes DOS !  I
  have relished in its evil embrace.  Its
  EDIT.COM, its PKUNZIPJR.COM, commands like DIR
  and COPY are known to me.  And I know this is
  wrong.  Father please forgive me !

Deacon:
  David tell me.
  Do you renounce the evils of DOS and all of its
  cunning and sinister ways ?

David:
  I renounce them.

Deacon:
  Do you renounce programs such as DOSSHELL,
  EDLIN, EDIT, and GWBASIC ?

David:
  I renounce them.

Deacon:
  Do you renounce the mechanics imposed upon you in
  single-tasking programs, upon 16-bit protected
  modes, upon DOS TSRs, and other programs like
  Sidekick, QBasic, Turbo Pascal, and every other
  program you know to be evil and wrong ?

David:
  I renounce them.

Deacon (addressing the People):
  Will you who witness these vows do all in your
  power to support him in his times of crisis and
  should he stray from the path ordained by Windows
  help him and steer him towards the light as set
  by our Almighty Bill Gates ?

People (together):
  We will.

Deacon:
  Stand now David into the New Light of Windows
  free of your prior obligations, free now to enter
  into the multi-tasking environment, upon which
  OBJECT ORIENTED PROGRAMMING is your ultimate goal
  and destination.

  Cleanse your heart from the wickedness of
  single tasking, of 16-bit protected modes,
  of all the wicked ways of DOS, rise up now David
  and face the new world with new promise and new
  hope into this Messiah, this Windows 2000 !

David (and people):
  Amen.
- - -
Yah I wrote this a few minutes ago, called up Dad,
read it to him, he giggled himself out of his seat, :)
said he wants me to send him a copy in Email so he can
read it for his friends at tomorrow's luncheon.  :)

Okay, seriously, I'm leaving PKUNZIPJR behind !
Aaa
  uuu
    ggg
      hhh
        hh
          h
           h
            !

Stress break ! ...  Okay, I feel better..  :)

First off, it means UNZIPPER leaves Postcardware
and enters 100% FREEWARE.
[enclosed]

What this means is I will need to get my own
personal file compressor more being intelligent
smarter better so I can use it.

Why am I leaving DOSSHELL behind ?
It has been found it always to be unpredictable
inaccurate, unreliable, unsavory, and undesirable
by most everyone else.

Chris, my good videogame friend and EXCELLENT watcher
of Anime confided in me that he ran my Irish Melody
demo at work and other computers and that nasty DOS
SHELL window popped up, windows lost the image after
it unpacked it to unpack the MIDI so aauugghh !!

Oh sorry, already been there.  :)

Let me see what I can do to improve my own
file compressor.

Sincerely,
David W.

- + -
How to sleep in (in 3 steps)

1. (alarm clock)
   Strange buzzing sound interrupts flying dream.

2. (Whack!)
   Beat innocent clock into submission.

3. (ZZzzz..)
   Resume fight.
- + -

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Subject: [gfabasic] Update To Space Traveller
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
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I see it didn't make it last post so resending.

Thanks to Michael for adding code to maintain
Windows 3.1 compatibility !
[enclosed]

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Subject: [gfabasic] UPDATE
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
UPDATE 05/17/2000

WICKER.ZIP  multiple files in .lst format

David is back and it is to our benefit.

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From: David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [gfabasic] UPDATE
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
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Hi Dale:

Thanks for the update..
I guess I feel- I have always been out of place
and out of sync with others in what is going on.

When I grew up years ago in school I was teased
and hurt so often that even to today I have nightmares
about middle school and high school.

Every single teacher, every single instructor has
always placed me in some strange bracket that spoke
only of my not fitting in ever or ever.

I know you are doing this because you like it,
and that maybe there is some good coding that does
help and assist everyone.

And maybe I am more then 100% WRONG to have wanted
what I consider "good" codes to be removed.  Certainly
every one must feel negative in one way or another
for having freely given code and then purposefully
removing it.  That has to look very bad.

But I do know difference when I see it.
I do know when something isn't set in well with
others.  I haven't wanted to live the part of being
someone who has to stand out all the time.

Perhaps if even for an instant I would enjoy being
normal, fitting in well with others.  A pipe dream
right ?  :)

I guess I'm getting all edgy and feeling self-
destructive cause I haven't had my meds yet.

The doctor said I think a lot, a lot more then most
people which is why I have never fit in, never been
considered normal, even with all my attempt to fit
in have failed.

If my code is to be considered grouped multiple
together unlike everyone else's then that is my
lot in life and I only have myself to blame for it.

There is no absolution, no perfect solution, or even
the patterns of a correct answer even if we were to
know a portion of its intricacies.

So now then do I lessen the weight, the importance,
and the value upon myself by accepting all what has
happened and allowing myself to stand out because
perhaps it is easier for others to understand me
that way.  It is easier for them to categorize me
this way.  And I am simpler to deal with.

By David Wicker
SPRXAMPL.LST . Graphic sprite example, sprites
included
SERIAL.LST . . Serial Culler will extract harddrive ID
RUBBROOM.LST . Good use and explanation of RUBBERBOX
QUICK.LST  . . Non-conventional ways of plotting
pixels
LIGHTNER.LST . Easy demonstration in lightening pixels
HOTKEYS.LST  . Retrieve values from GETKEYSTATE
CRYSWAVE.LST . My 1st program, very graphic &
beautiful
CATHEDRL.LST . Easy coding showing trajectory pixels

Dale, a few missing from here are:
MYRBOX.LST . . My Round Boxes to replace RBox and
PRBox
SPACTRAV.LST . Space Traveller TRUE 3-D Screen-Saver
[enclosed]

Sincerely,
David

--- Dale Bryant <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com>
> wrote:
> UPDATE 05/17/2000
> 
> WICKER.ZIP  multiple files in .lst format
> 
> David is back and it is to our benefit.
> 
> Dale Bryant



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List Member bdd <BrentDeck@compuserve.com> wrote:
I have a simple 8-bit grayscale image in a simple arrray. =


I'm having trouble figuring out how to  manipulate vga registers to displ=
ay

a  grayscale or color image.

Does anyoine have an example?

Preferably using GFADOS.

Thanks,

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:

--- bdd <BrentDeck@compuserve.com> wrote:
> List Member bdd <BrentDeck@compuserve.com> wrote:
> I have a simple 8-bit grayscale image in a simple
> arrray. 
> 
> I'm having trouble figuring out how to  manipulate
> vga registers to display
> 
> a  grayscale or color image.
> 
> Does anyoine have an example?
> 
> Preferably using GFADOS.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Brent

Greets Brent:

If the picture is not too complex, you can access
VGA graphics specifically from memory position $A000
and to modify the colors at a system level they are
at OUT $3C8, (index)
   OUT $3C9, (Red) (Green) (Blue)

Using these under DOS graphics are about as
quick as you can possibly get.

Hope This Helps !

Sincerely,
David W.
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Problem:
Compiling very large executable.  wingen.exe reports /ALIGNMENT must be
increased.  Sheesh!

I tried using PARA in the compiler - no good!

Manual says it must be set as a power of 2, currently being 16*67550 (or
whatever that big number actually is).  This allows a 1M file.  I'm looking
at probably getting tinto a 1.5M file.

I'm assuming a statement such as:
$LNK /ALIGNMENT = X*67550 (or the proper number).  OR... does it fall under
an OPTIONS statement?

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List Member bdd <BrentDeck@compuserve.com> wrote:
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OUT $3C8, (index)
OUT $3C9, (Red) (Green) (Blue)
<

David, =


Thanks,  but my brain must be dead.

I've tried OUTPORT to those IO addresses.
Then, Whether or not I use the COLOR command, =

the GFA PLOT command uses old colors.

Also, using ~intr($10,...) to set DACs does not seem to work for me,
although I can change the palette index into the DAC table.


Best Regards
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Pat, & all interested....

It worked fine, adding the *.res to an existing *.exe using WorkShop!
Thanks much, Pat!

Brings out a problem I had considered, tho.  Using Roland's minijpeg.lib
makes a very slow action display even w/ large postage stamp images this
way.  I have to see if I can teach it to load all but the first (logo) at
one time into an array or something, *then* start the animation.  I've not
had any success at this before, but one of these days I'll get it!
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Can't get Roland's minijpeg.lib to load more than one image at a time... 
can't get all 424 of'em into memory because it GPF's the *.lib to try!

The single *.res is actually 1.6M, & contains a stringtable, an icon &
424 *.jpg images.

I may drop the whole idea because I can't get the Codec compression
routine to keep the chosen Codec & quality, either.  It'll take one
hell of a long time to compress 424 images, one at a time!

Anybody else interested in picking it up?  I'm tired of beating my
head against a brick wall!  No more pain killers, no more Tylenol,
no more Aspirin, no more drive or enthusiasm!

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi Brent:

Here is how you would plot pixels in QBasic.
* * *
SCREEN 13
^ Just clear and ready screen

FOR I=0 TO 255
  OUT &H3C8,I   <- Palette #

  OUT &H3C9,I\3 <- Red Gun
  OUT &H3C9,I\2 <- Green Gun
  OUT &H3C9,I   <- Blue Gun
^ You =MUST= set R & G & B in this order and
  not leave out ONE or you can really foul
  up the display !  For pentiums you need a tiny
  tiny delay after you set these 3 colors

NEXT I
^ Give a nice metallic blue

FOR I=0 TO 255
  FOR J=0 TO 255
    PST J,I,(I+J) MOD 256
  NEXT J
NEXT I

SUB PST(H,V,C)
^ GFA calls these PROCEDUREs, QB calls them SUBs

  DEF SEG=&HA000
^ Next # poked is RIGHT into screen !

  POKE H+V*320&,C

  DEF SEG
^ Fix back to default memory segments

END SUB
^ GFA uses RETURN, QB calls them END SUB

* * *
Hope This Helps !

Sincerely,
David W.

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> <
> 
> David, 
> 
> Thanks,  but my brain must be dead.
> 
> I've tried OUTPORT to those IO addresses.
> Then, Whether or not I use the COLOR command, 
> the GFA PLOT command uses old colors.
> 
> Also, using ~intr($10,...) to set DACs does not seem
> to work for me,
> although I can change the palette index into the DAC
> table.
> 
> 
> Best Regards
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Greets Tom:

I did mention I've abandoned the DOS PKZip, but is
there a version .DLL or something that GFABasic can
use ?

If so, it would benefit both of us.

I could write a picture reader and writer for you
that loads and saves .JPGs that you've converted to
bitmaps and compress them with PKZip and then you
won't have to worry about quantization or pixel
discrepancies that .JPG introduces according to
its compression, screen resolution, and screen
depth.

I see now in order to continue my own file
compressor I will need to intelligently look at the
data much like a game of chess and find patterns that
are not merely crunched, but cataloged so if a similar
pattern exists it can borrow bits from the reference
to its prior instance and encompass the entirety of
both regions with a single reference point.

Sincerely,
David W.

--- Tom Record
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> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Can't get Roland's minijpeg.lib to load more than
> one image at a time... 
> can't get all 424 of'em into memory because it GPF's
> the *.lib to try!
> 
> The single *.res is actually 1.6M, & contains a
> stringtable, an icon &
> 424 *.jpg images.
> 
> I may drop the whole idea because I can't get the
> Codec compression
> routine to keep the chosen Codec & quality, either. 
> It'll take one
> hell of a long time to compress 424 images, one at a
> time!
> 
> Anybody else interested in picking it up?  I'm tired
> of beating my
> head against a brick wall!  No more pain killers, no
> more Tylenol,
> no more Aspirin, no more drive or enthusiasm!
> 
> TomR.
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Like Tom, sometimes I get frustrated.

Occasionally I'll write some real stuff in here
that doesn't seem to make any sense at all about
depression or life and stuff.

I'm just rattling my cage.  :)

I'll try not to do it too often.

Sincerely,
David W.

- + -
How to watch clouds. (in 3 steps)
1. Go outside.
2. Recline.  Look up.
3. Watch as clouds become dragons, animals,
   and more.
   (Relax!  Life is too short to worry about
    everything all the time!)  :)
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
The only thing I ever see in the clouds are Bears!!

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> List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Like Tom, sometimes I get frustrated.
>
> Occasionally I'll write some real stuff in here
> that doesn't seem to make any sense at all about
> depression or life and stuff.
>
> I'm just rattling my cage.  :)
>
> I'll try not to do it too often.
>
> Sincerely,
> David W.
>
> - + -
> How to watch clouds. (in 3 steps)
> 1. Go outside.
> 2. Recline.  Look up.
> 3. Watch as clouds become dragons, animals,
>    and more.
>    (Relax!  Life is too short to worry about
>     everything all the time!)  :)
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List Member bdd <BrentDeck@compuserve.com> wrote:
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Dave,

Thanks
I'll try outport again, =

using delays. Certainly looks easier than manipulating =

DAC and Palette registers independently.  =


Using BIOS calls from WOTSIT.ORG,
I've managed to get 16 colors in SCREEN16
and 64  colors in SCREEN19 under GFA-DOS.

Demo Listing is attached in case anyone has suggestions.

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:

--- Dale Bryant <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com>
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> The only thing I ever see in the clouds are Bears!!
> 
> Dale Bryant

You must live in Bear Country Dale.  :)

Are they Teddy Bears or Grizzly Bears ?

Sincerely,
David W.

My Doctor came and visited.  Said Hi, caught me
asleep !  I was cleaning room which I don't know why.
He thought the Confessions of a Dos User was funny
too.

Well it's Friday night and while others are out
partying, I'll be fighting the code on this
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RE : BEARS!!!!!!!!!

Ok guys Listen up When I look up in the clouds I see all kinds of things but
mostly Angels !!!!                          .>>>>> Lou

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> List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> --- Dale Bryant <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> > List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com>
> > wrote:
> > The only thing I ever see in the clouds are Bears!!
> >
> > Dale Bryant
>
> You must live in Bear Country Dale.  :)
>
> Are they Teddy Bears or Grizzly Bears ?
>
> Sincerely,
> David W.
>
> My Doctor came and visited.  Said Hi, caught me
> asleep !  I was cleaning room which I don't know why.
> He thought the Confessions of a Dos User was funny
> too.
>
> Well it's Friday night and while others are out
> partying, I'll be fighting the code on this
> Irish Melodies.  :/  Just about done tho.
>
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Lou, go cook dinner!!<G>

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> List Member "Lou Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
> RE : BEARS!!!!!!!!!
>
> Ok guys Listen up When I look up in the clouds I see all kinds of things
but
> mostly Angels !!!!                          .>>>>> Lou
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Wicker" <dw817@yahoo.com>
> To: <gfabasic@gfa.net>
> Sent: Friday, May 19, 2000 5:42 PM
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> >
> > --- Dale Bryant <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> > > List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > The only thing I ever see in the clouds are Bears!!
> > >
> > > Dale Bryant
> >
> > You must live in Bear Country Dale.  :)
> >
> > Are they Teddy Bears or Grizzly Bears ?
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > David W.
> >
> > My Doctor came and visited.  Said Hi, caught me
> > asleep !  I was cleaning room which I don't know why.
> > He thought the Confessions of a Dos User was funny
> > too.
> >
> > Well it's Friday night and while others are out
> > partying, I'll be fighting the code on this
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Subject: [gfabasic] jpeg info, please
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
The following will obtain the image dimensions of a *.bmp.
Does anybody know the bytes to look at for the same thing in *.jpg?

FILESELECT #"<Cancel> closes all!","*.bmp","",np$
IF np$ = "" THEN END
OPEN np$ FOR INPUT AS #99  // sequential read
k$ = INPUT$(29,#99)        // data is in the first 29 bytes
CLOSE #99                  // close the file before we forget
picx% = ASC(MID$(k$,19,1)) + (ASC(MID$(k$,20,1)) * 256)
picy% = ASC(MID$(k$,23,1)) + (ASC(MID$(k$,24,1)) * 256)
picDepth& = ASC(RIGHT$(k$,1)) // colordepth in bits
picCols& = INT(2 ^ picDepth)  //  number of colors
bmw& = picx%                  // width of image
bmh& = picy%                  // height of image

I either don't have this info, or don't recognize it looking at it.
I'm trying to determine the size without having to load it for an
info-gathering routine that would list *.jpg images w/ their sizes.
<G>
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She can't, Dale!  hurt her back at work -- looks like a got her around for
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> > > You must live in Bear Country Dale.  :)
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> > > Are they Teddy Bears or Grizzly Bears ?
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> > > Sincerely,
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> > > My Doctor came and visited.  Said Hi, caught me
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List Member Doyle Whisenant <mechanic@sonet.net> wrote:
Tom Record wrote:
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> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> The following will obtain the image dimensions of a *.bmp.
> Does anybody know the bytes to look at for the same thing in *.jpg?

Hi Tom. I have this snippet of Liberty Basic code which is supposed to
retrieve the width and height info. Hope you can use it!
 
if right$(file$,3)="JPG" or right$(file$,3)="JIF" then
 marker$ = chr$(255) + chr$(192)
 open file$ for input as #jpg
 code$ = input$(#jpg,lof(#jpg)): close #jpg
 x = instr(code$,marker$): marker1 = x
 x = instr(code$,marker$,marker1+2): marker2 = x
 if marker2 = 0 then x = marker1 else x = marker2
 hi = (asc(mid$(code$,x+5,1))*256) + asc(mid$(code$,x+6,1))
 wi = (asc(mid$(code$,x+7,1))*256) + asc(mid$(code$,x+8,1))

 code$ = ""
 end if
 fwi=wi:fhi=hi


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List Member "Eberhard Funck" <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de> wrote:
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Hallo Tom,

You had ask a very difficult question.
But here as the attachment my result.

Read my comments in the file.
I don't know, because the two bytes of the word
of image width or height are changed in the jpg-files.

Greetings

Eberhard


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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Greets Tom:

Well I played made 2 .jpg files:
one 36x26 called 3626.jpg
two 37x27 called 3727.jpg

Looked for WORD 36 & 26
found vertical at byte position #183
found horizontal at byte position #185
for both files

PROBLEM !
Some .JPGs carry a description !
The position going a little farther then 185
if there's a description !
Paintshop Pro stuffs a nasty little LOOK-AT-ME
notice for everything it saves.

Very unprofessional.  :/

Hope This Helps !

Dju like Shimmer and/or you gonna use it ?
I'm still waiting for my "undermined employee"
copy of your program.  :)

Sincerely,
David W.

--- Tom Record
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> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> The following will obtain the image dimensions of a
> *.bmp.
> Does anybody know the bytes to look at for the same
> thing in *.jpg?
> 
> FILESELECT #"<Cancel> closes all!","*.bmp","",np$
> IF np$ = "" THEN END
> OPEN np$ FOR INPUT AS #99  // sequential read
> k$ = INPUT$(29,#99)        // data is in the first
> 29 bytes
> CLOSE #99                  // close the file before
> we forget
> picx% = ASC(MID$(k$,19,1)) + (ASC(MID$(k$,20,1)) *
> 256)
> picy% = ASC(MID$(k$,23,1)) + (ASC(MID$(k$,24,1)) *
> 256)
> picDepth& = ASC(RIGHT$(k$,1)) // colordepth in bits
> picCols& = INT(2 ^ picDepth)  //  number of colors
> bmw& = picx%                  // width of image
> bmh& = picy%                  // height of image
> 
> I either don't have this info, or don't recognize it
> looking at it.
> I'm trying to determine the size without having to
> load it for an
> info-gathering routine that would list *.jpg images
> w/ their sizes.
> <G>
> TomR.
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
[Example]

Yah thought I'd write a quick to show
how to get 'em out.  :) 

They screwballin the numbers all catty-wompus
so here's how to get 'em out.

OPENW #1
DEFFN C(A$,A) = ASC(MID$(A$,A))
OPEN "i",#1,"picture.jpg"
SEEK #1,163
A$ = INPUT$(4,#1)
Y = FN C(A$,2) + FN C(A$,1) * 256
X = FN C(A$,4) + FN C(A$,3) * 256
CLOSE
PRINT X,Y
KEYGET Z
CLOSEW #1

Hope This Helps !

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Subject: Re: [gfabasic] !#$! it!
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Well, at least she should be able to keep me up on all the news. If you are
doing the cooking tell Lou I am not coming to dinner until she is back
cooking.again<G>
dale
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Bev Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com>
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Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2000 12:46 AM
Subject: Re: [gfabasic] !#$! it!


> List Member "Bev Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
> She can't, Dale!  hurt her back at work -- looks like a got her around for
> the next coupla weeks <groan>!!!
>
>                              -->Bev<--
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com>
> To: <gfabasic@gfa.net>
> Sent: Friday, May 19, 2000 7:17 PM
> Subject: Re: [gfabasic] !#$! it!
>
>
> > List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> > Lou, go cook dinner!!<G>
> >
> > Dale Bryant
> > http://gfawhelp.com
> > http://gfawhelp.gfa.net
> > adbryant@msn.com
> > adbryant@gfa.net
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Lou Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com>
> > To: <gfabasic@gfa.net>
> > Sent: Friday, May 19, 2000 3:37 PM
> > Subject: Re: [gfabasic] !#$! it!
> >
> >
> > > List Member "Lou Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
> > > RE : BEARS!!!!!!!!!
> > >
> > > Ok guys Listen up When I look up in the clouds I see all kinds of
things
> > but
> > > mostly Angels !!!!                          .>>>>> Lou
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "David Wicker" <dw817@yahoo.com>
> > > To: <gfabasic@gfa.net>
> > > Sent: Friday, May 19, 2000 5:42 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [gfabasic] !#$! it!
> > >
> > >
> > > > List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- Dale Bryant <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> > > > > List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > The only thing I ever see in the clouds are Bears!!
> > > > >
> > > > > Dale Bryant
> > > >
> > > > You must live in Bear Country Dale.  :)
> > > >
> > > > Are they Teddy Bears or Grizzly Bears ?
> > > >
> > > > Sincerely,
> > > > David W.
> > > >
> > > > My Doctor came and visited.  Said Hi, caught me
> > > > asleep !  I was cleaning room which I don't know why.
> > > > He thought the Confessions of a Dos User was funny
> > > > too.
> > > >
> > > > Well it's Friday night and while others are out
> > > > partying, I'll be fighting the code on this
> > > > Irish Melodies.  :/  Just about done tho.
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Subject: Re: [gfabasic] jpeg info, please
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List Member "Eberhard Funck" <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de> wrote:
This is a multi-part message in MIME format.

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Hallo Tom,

Here is better solution for receive the width and the height
of jpg-files. the offset to these datas are not equal.

Greetings

Eberhard


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Subject: Re: [gfabasic] !#$! it!
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
I thot things were awfully quiet!
Perk up, Lou... yer missed!<G>
TomR.



At 03:46 AM 20-05-00 -0400, you wrote:
>List Member "Bev Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
>She can't, Dale!  hurt her back at work -- looks like a got her around for
>the next coupla weeks <groan>!!!
>
>                             -->Bev<--
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com>
>To: <gfabasic@gfa.net>
>Sent: Friday, May 19, 2000 7:17 PM
>Subject: Re: [gfabasic] !#$! it!
>
>
>> List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
>> Lou, go cook dinner!!<G>
>>
>> Dale Bryant
>> http://gfawhelp.com
>> http://gfawhelp.gfa.net
>> adbryant@msn.com
>> adbryant@gfa.net
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Lou Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com>
>> To: <gfabasic@gfa.net>
>> Sent: Friday, May 19, 2000 3:37 PM
>> Subject: Re: [gfabasic] !#$! it!
>>
>>
>> > List Member "Lou Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
>> > RE : BEARS!!!!!!!!!
>> >
>> > Ok guys Listen up When I look up in the clouds I see all kinds of things
>> but
>> > mostly Angels !!!!                          .>>>>> Lou
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "David Wicker" <dw817@yahoo.com>
>> > To: <gfabasic@gfa.net>
>> > Sent: Friday, May 19, 2000 5:42 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [gfabasic] !#$! it!
>> >
>> >
>> > > List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > --- Dale Bryant <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
>> > > > List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com>
>> > > > wrote:
>> > > > The only thing I ever see in the clouds are Bears!!
>> > > >
>> > > > Dale Bryant
>> > >
>> > > You must live in Bear Country Dale.  :)
>> > >
>> > > Are they Teddy Bears or Grizzly Bears ?
>> > >
>> > > Sincerely,
>> > > David W.
>> > >
>> > > My Doctor came and visited.  Said Hi, caught me
>> > > asleep !  I was cleaning room which I don't know why.
>> > > He thought the Confessions of a Dos User was funny
>> > > too.
>> > >
>> > > Well it's Friday night and while others are out
>> > > partying, I'll be fighting the code on this
>> > > Irish Melodies.  :/  Just about done tho.
>> > >
>> > >
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Works just fine, David.
Thanks heaps.
<G>
TomR.



At 08:16 AM 20-05-00 -0700, you wrote:
>List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
>[Example]
>
>Yah thought I'd write a quick to show
>how to get 'em out.  :) 
>
>They screwballin the numbers all catty-wompus
>so here's how to get 'em out.
>
>OPENW #1
>DEFFN C(A$,A) = ASC(MID$(A$,A))
>OPEN "i",#1,"picture.jpg"
>SEEK #1,163
>A$ = INPUT$(4,#1)
>Y = FN C(A$,2) + FN C(A$,1) * 256
>X = FN C(A$,4) + FN C(A$,3) * 256
>CLOSE
>PRINT X,Y
>KEYGET Z
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>
>Hope This Helps !
>
>Sincerely,
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Doyle
Since the last move, I've been unable to find a lot of my ZIP100s.  I
remember we had a lot of formats figured out.  Much obliged!
<G>
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At 04:23 AM 20-05-00 -0500, you wrote:
>List Member Doyle Whisenant <mechanic@sonet.net> wrote:
>Tom Record wrote:
>> 
>> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> The following will obtain the image dimensions of a *.bmp.
>> Does anybody know the bytes to look at for the same thing in *.jpg?
>
>Hi Tom. I have this snippet of Liberty Basic code which is supposed to
>retrieve the width and height info. Hope you can use it!
> 
>if right$(file$,3)="JPG" or right$(file$,3)="JIF" then
> marker$ = chr$(255) + chr$(192)
> open file$ for input as #jpg
> code$ = input$(#jpg,lof(#jpg)): close #jpg
> x = instr(code$,marker$): marker1 = x
> x = instr(code$,marker$,marker1+2): marker2 = x
> if marker2 = 0 then x = marker1 else x = marker2
> hi = (asc(mid$(code$,x+5,1))*256) + asc(mid$(code$,x+6,1))
> wi = (asc(mid$(code$,x+7,1))*256) + asc(mid$(code$,x+8,1))
>
> code$ = ""
> end if
> fwi=wi:fhi=hi
>
>
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At 07:52 AM 20-05-00 -0700, you wrote:
>List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Greets Tom:
>
>Well I played made 2 .jpg files:
>one 36x26 called 3626.jpg
>two 37x27 called 3727.jpg
>
>Looked for WORD 36 & 26
>found vertical at byte position #183
>found horizontal at byte position #185
>for both files
>
>PROBLEM !
>Some .JPGs carry a description !
>The position going a little farther then 185
>if there's a description !
>Paintshop Pro stuffs a nasty little LOOK-AT-ME
>notice for everything it saves.
>
>Very unprofessional.  :/
>

VERY NOMINAL!  MOST pro s.ware does this - "free advertising".

Thanks.
<G>
TomR.

>Hope This Helps !
>
>Dju like Shimmer and/or you gonna use it ?
>I'm still waiting for my "undermined employee"
>copy of your program.  :)
>
>Sincerely,
>David W.
>
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>> List Member Tom Record
>> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> The following will obtain the image dimensions of a
>> *.bmp.
>> Does anybody know the bytes to look at for the same
>> thing in *.jpg?
>> 
>> FILESELECT #"<Cancel> closes all!","*.bmp","",np$
>> IF np$ = "" THEN END
>> OPEN np$ FOR INPUT AS #99  // sequential read
>> k$ = INPUT$(29,#99)        // data is in the first
>> 29 bytes
>> CLOSE #99                  // close the file before
>> we forget
>> picx% = ASC(MID$(k$,19,1)) + (ASC(MID$(k$,20,1)) *
>> 256)
>> picy% = ASC(MID$(k$,23,1)) + (ASC(MID$(k$,24,1)) *
>> 256)
>> picDepth& = ASC(RIGHT$(k$,1)) // colordepth in bits
>> picCols& = INT(2 ^ picDepth)  //  number of colors
>> bmw& = picx%                  // width of image
>> bmh& = picy%                  // height of image
>> 
>> I either don't have this info, or don't recognize it
>> looking at it.
>> I'm trying to determine the size without having to
>> load it for an
>> info-gathering routine that would list *.jpg images
>> w/ their sizes.
>> <G>
>> TomR.
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Thanks very much, Eberhard.
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At 12:32 PM 20-05-00 +0200, you wrote:
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>Hallo Tom,
>
>You had ask a very difficult question.
>But here as the attachment my result.
>
>Read my comments in the file.
>I don't know, because the two bytes of the word
>of image width or height are changed in the jpg-files.
>
>Greetings
>
>Eberhard
>
>
>Attachment Converted: C:\WORLDNET\DOWNLOAD\Wh_jpg.gfw
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
David
I have had _NO_ employees since my business was bancrupted in 1985!

Therefore, I can have NO "undermined employee" & never have had!

I provided insurance, paid their taxes & supplied many gallons of
un-paid gasoline, many unpaid quarts of oil, many unpaid new parts
from parts houses, many excessive lunch hours, & on, & on, & on!

Call me the F_ed-over, undermined boss!

There is, as yet, NO application to send you or anybody else.
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Thanks very much.  Am having trouble seeing today, so must
wait a few hrs.  Eyes are fogging over & I *know* that there
is no fog in the apartment <G>.
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At 07:07 PM 20-05-00 +0200, you wrote:
>Hallo Tom,
>
>Here is better solution for receive the width and the height
>of jpg-files. the offset to these datas are not equal.
>
>Greetings
>
>Eberhard
>
>
>Attachment Converted: C:\WORLDNET\DOWNLOAD\Wh1_jpg.gfw
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:

--- Tom Record
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> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Works just fine, David.
> Thanks heaps.
> <G>
> TomR.

Greets Tom:

You're very Welcome !
Never underestimate the power of a
(DEF)ined (F)u(N)ction !  :)

I tell ya, if GFA weren't so QBee friendly
I wouldn't be here to tell this tale.

You're all steamed up in the next letter so I'll
bask in your friendliness for just a bit before I
get clobbered in the next letter.

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Greets Tom:

Naaow I'm just pulling your chain !
Remember ?  I'm retired too not even 34 years old
but oh well.  :)

I'm just <HINTING> at I would to like and see
the neato program you're working on.

Me, I finished my toy.  A =LOTTA= work but very
nice !

Irish Melodies - a rather busy programming GIFT
project I wrote for my Mom
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The 35 blue boxes below are what has been played
and not played, a red strip thru it means you've
played it.  Yah there's 35 Irish pieces complete
with nice girl she will play it on other side of
window.

Stay awake cause the commands follow:

Play = Play highlighted track
Stop = Stop all playing
Name = Rename this piece to one you like
Next = Go to next track,
       if you did a Shuffle of tracks it SMART!
       and goes to the correct internal-in-head
       track trail
Last = Play last track, reverses SMART! course
       for shuffled tracks
Rand = Shuffle all tracks
Exit = Goodbye !
Icon = Iconize & play in background
Redo = Undo shuffle tracks & remove all played marks

You can hit the first letter of the buttons and the
mouse MAGICALLY glides over to where its supposing
to go, sparkles all the way !  :)

Exiting anywhere at any time for any reason records
all progress, position in tracks, shuffle
arrangements,
length into all tracks, and custom new renames
for Irish tracks music.

Single .EXE size of 938629,
compressed .ZIP size of 346519
^ Makes use of my Piggyback Byter, no encryption
on any files.  If I have problems I'll encrypt 'em
but there they are fine for now.

http://www.geocities.com/dw817/product/momsday.zip

Enjoy !

Sincerely,
David W.



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From: Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: [gfabasic] Ha!  Some success, but another question.
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Have discovered a means of pausing both RealPlayer & MediaPlayer, so I
can now extract images from: *.mpe, *.mpg, *.ram, & *.rm!  Comes in handy
when my regular method doesn't work on mpegs.  RealPlay wasn't possible
at all before my discovery.  Boy!  Can I ever make some screensavers now!

Hmmmmmmmmmm... how about ShockWave?

Now, the other question:

Do we, in GFA-W(16), have the means of copying out the settings in the
CMOS?  I know it can be done, but can *we* do it?

*IF* copying the settings is possible for us, can we also replace
or restore these settings?

I'm faced w/ a curious situation on my 486... the CMOS battery has
just died & I have to rebuild those settings or I can't run it.  I
haven't found a 3.6v battery for this except... here the KludgeMeister
comes into play... I discovered that a dead Cellular telephone I have
DOES have a mother of a 3.6v battery in it.  I have the charger, so
am considering making a simple zenar-diode-controlled voltage follower
to interface the cellphone battery, charger, & 486.  The original
CMOS battery lived quite a while <G>, the 486 is a 1993 vintage!

The cellphone battery is stamped 3.6v, but charges up to 4.5v.  So...
it needs a voltage follower to keep the 486 seeing only 3.6v whether
the charger is on it or not.

<G>
TomR.

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
At 04:07 PM 20-05-00 -0700, you wrote:
>List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Greets Tom:
>
>Naaow I'm just pulling your chain !
>Remember ?  I'm retired too not even 34 years old
>but oh well.  :)
>
>I'm just <HINTING> at I would to like and see
>the neato program you're working on.
>

David
Am not steamed, just dislike immensly the term "undermined employee".  I did
*ANYTHING* to never "undermine" my employees, but had absolutely NO means of
protecting myself from them.  Fire'em, ya gotta pay'em for another 6 months 
or so if you fail to beat'em before the Labor Relations Board!  Keepin'em is 
to bend over, spread cheeks & don't bother to ask for vasoline!

The only "proof", short of catchin'em in the act, was the pump readings taken
every night & compared to logged sales.  EP90 & motor oil losses showed up only
in a weekly comparison to what's on-hand to the sales tickets log.  I was
logging
everything on a computer (RatShak TRS-80 Model 4) nightly, but the LRB here is
hell-bent to get the poor, undermined, disgruntled, fired employee as much as is
possible & then some!  Getting a monthly bill from each parts house I delt with
made tracking *those* thefts slow to catch.  I wouldn't see any discrepancies
for a long time - I stapled the parts receipts to the work orders daily, but...
no work order, no receipt... no catchin it till the first of the month when
things
just didn't jive w/ records I had on hand.  Except for employee thefts, I was 
able to track my money to the penny, to the great satisfaction of my banker!

Remember my once treading on a raw nerve with you?  Hoss, you just kicked hell
out of a VERY OLD VERY RAW nerve for me <G>.  Add the losses in gasoline, oil,
& "minor" parts & you can see one of the reasons why I was forced into
bancruptcy
& "carry a grudge" so long.

>
>Single .EXE size of 938629,
>compressed .ZIP size of 346519
>^ Makes use of my Piggyback Byter, no encryption
>on any files.  If I have problems I'll encrypt 'em
>but there they are fine for now.
>

So.............. When do we get a full-blown version (source, of course) of
this *.exe cruncher?  CAN it crunch *.jpg & Codec-*.bmps that are $LNKed
in via a *.res file?  I *could* employ only 8-bit *.bmps, but only IF this toy
of yours can crunch'em down next to nothing & leave the *.exe runable.  PKlite
does a fair job, but it does _N_O_T_H_I_N_G_ to the 2 formats mentioned above.

Try it on that *.scr I just sent you - it's got 8 640x480 *.jpegs in it.

Some of my screensavers are nearly 2Megs - only about 50K is the *.exe, itself.
As you've experienced, a lack of msvideo on a computer stops the use of Codec
compression completely.  *These* cookies are prompting me to look hard at how
to make use of several image *.dlls & to see if I can write a simple universal
*.exe/*.scr that can look for & switch between several *.dlls.

>
>http://www.geocities.com/dw817/product/momsday.zip
>
>Enjoy !
>
>Sincerely,
>David W.
>
>
>
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> David
> Am not steamed, just dislike immensly the term
> "undermined employee".  I did
> *ANYTHING* to never "undermine" my employees, but
> had absolutely NO means of
> protecting myself from them.  Fire'em, ya gotta
> pay'em for another 6 months 
> or so if you fail to beat'em before the Labor
> Relations Board!  Keepin'em is 
> to bend over, spread cheeks & don't bother to ask
> for vasoline!

Sorry Tom..  Didn't know this was tender with you.
Made a real mistake myself tonite watched what I
thought maybe comedy really funny first 15 minutes
then every body gone shoot blood all broken lifes
in end.  I didn't take my meds yet so I kinna chewed
on my fingers a little too hard yah Dad's gonna
yell at me bandage 'em for a bit, right now just
stiff painful gues that's why I learned type with
two fingers so fast.  Keep fingers up in air don't
hurt so bad.  Okee, meds time David !!  You wondla
got so upset in the movie if you took your meds
pills okay DUMB david !  :/


> 
> The only "proof", short of catchin'em in the act,
> was the pump readings taken
> every night & compared to logged sales.  EP90 &
> motor oil losses showed up only
> in a weekly comparison to what's on-hand to the
> sales tickets log.

I all ways got fired every job I been at, and got
paid bukoos later cause my work record is outstanding
I just not cope well sometimes..  Guess that's why
Gov pay me now to not work then if I work huh ..
My Dr visit me every so week and wants seeing what
I'm doing on computer he likes it and I give him
copy sometime to taking home with him to play with.

  I was
> logging
> everything on a computer (RatShak TRS-80 Model 4)
> nightly, but the LRB here is
> hell-bent to get the poor, undermined, disgruntled,
> fired employee as much as is
> possible & then some!  Getting a monthly bill from
> each parts house I delt with
> made tracking *those* thefts slow to catch.  I
> wouldn't see any discrepancies
> for a long time - I stapled the parts receipts to
> the work orders daily, but...

I sayed undermined cause every damn boss hired me
would be nice to me first days then yell and scream
want my little magic sparkle job stuff I do sometimes
for fun they want ALL THE TIME and thats hard on my
head (literally) sometime.

> no work order, no receipt... no catchin it till the
> first of the month when
> things
> just didn't jive w/ records I had on hand.  Except
> for employee thefts, I was 
> able to track my money to the penny, to the great
> satisfaction of my banker!

Yah I saw a employee take money from register one time
offered to give me a $10 said I could get nice
milkshake tomorrow for me and Rose with it I said no
cause that's too much he offered less but I saied
I all ready got money right ??  Well he got caught
boss showed me little secret room and it was all
videotape yah I giggled myself outta my seat said
thats too funny the way he looking all round making
sure no body see him and take stuff.  Silly.  Wanted
making me a assistant leader or something but i say
didn't want the extra work he say okay well all
work well tell place boss got shot at yah store all
condemned now long time ago I guess.
> 
> Remember my once treading on a raw nerve with you? 
> Hoss, you just kicked hell
> out of a VERY OLD VERY RAW nerve for me <G>.  Add
> the losses in gasoline, oil,
> & "minor" parts & you can see one of the reasons why
> I was forced into
> bancruptcy
> & "carry a grudge" so long.

They not counting the oil or gas or some thing right ?
I never did want to be boss to anyone cause there's
allways problems ..
> 
> >
> >Single .EXE size of 938629,
> >compressed .ZIP size of 346519
> >^ Makes use of my Piggyback Byter, no encryption
> >on any files.  If I have problems I'll encrypt 'em
> >but there they are fine for now.
> >
> 
> So.............. When do we get a full-blown version
> (source, of course) of

Well it's not so good a cruncher I'm gonna put it out
tho as a postcard ware tho, my newest one tho I
haven't
written going to write it not yet and will crunch just
about all including JPGs yayayay gonna be
neat but later not tonite to much brain work..

> this *.exe cruncher?  CAN it crunch *.jpg &
> Codec-*.bmps that are $LNKed
> in via a *.res file?  I *could* employ only 8-bit
> *.bmps, but only IF this toy
> of yours can crunch'em down next to nothing & leave
> the *.exe runable.  PKlite
> does a fair job, but it does _N_O_T_H_I_N_G_ to the
> 2 formats mentioned above.
> 
> Try it on that *.scr I just sent you - it's got 8
> 640x480 *.jpegs in it.
> 
> Some of my screensavers are nearly 2Megs - only
> about 50K is the *.exe, itself.
> As you've experienced, a lack of msvideo on a
> computer stops the use of Codec
> compression completely.  *These* cookies are
> prompting me to look hard at how

Like screensaver you sent me will write
sparkle imager picture to here is the next picture
post source on that.

Grocieries gotten so expen$ive I couldn't buy
cookies this week !  Maaaan I deserve some after
getting all MomsBirrthday program finished all I
got our some cheapo crackers and peanut butter.
Gonna buy real good grocieres tomorrow get my
allowance then.

> to make use of several image *.dlls & to see if I
> can write a simple universal
> *.exe/*.scr that can look for & switch between
> several *.dlls.

Use those procedures they good for every thing
you and that will write more then once.

procedure Startup
{{load all dlls & stuff}

procedure shutdown
{close all that dll stuff you opened! :) }

Stayed up too late !  Tired brain !
Okee nite !

> 
> >
> >http://www.geocities.com/dw817/product/momsday.zip
> >
> >Enjoy !
> >
> >Sincerely,
> >David W.
> >
> >
> >
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Hi Tom,

as attechment the gfw-file for receive the correctly
information about height and width of a jepeg-image.
This little application works for all kind of jpg-files.

The Do-Loop loop is for jumping over some structures,
there are not needing.

Greetings

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Thanks, heaps, Eberhard.  Little by little, my needs are
filling in some empty gaps for othere, too.

Using WorkShop, I've poked 424 images, *.jpg, using my rc-gen23,
into Roland's empty.dll - 1.6M.  There is a compiler instruction
that would allow GFA-W(16) to compile a *.dll or *.exe of this size
but I don't understand how it must be worded.  It begins /ALIGNMENT.

The compiler is stuck w/ ~1M executables as it is.  *That* particular
screensaver would have twice that number of images & about 3X the
filesize if I dared try to do it completely.  The only way I can make 
image files smaller than *.jpg is to lighten them & Codec-compress to
35-40%.  The Codecs make the colors richer, darker, losing the lightest
in the image.  PKlite won't compress images at all.

The need for reading *.jpg sizes is to be able to list'em w/ sizes so I
can determine how to arrange other things, suchs as a playlist & the
offsets for each image to move across or down the screen.

I'll probably add it to my bmph() or do another, similar, for *.jpg.
<G>
TomR.



At 03:06 PM 21-05-00 +0200, you wrote:
>Hi Tom,
>
>as attechment the gfw-file for receive the correctly
>information about height and width of a jepeg-image.
>This little application works for all kind of jpg-files.
>
>The Do-Loop loop is for jumping over some structures,
>there are not needing.
>
>Greetings
>
>Eberhard 
>
>Attachment Converted: C:\WORLDNET\DOWNLOAD\Wh1_jpg1.gfw
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Greets Gang !

Well, made it back from Mother's Day
and what can I say ?  Everything went VERY nicely !

Ran my Irish Melodies on my Mom's computer she
REALLY liked it said I need to do this for the
holidays like Christmas and stuff yah well that
was too much work but I learned something right ??

Okay it's the 3rd week running now and I have
a GOOD Mouse Tickler.

What's a Mouse Tickler ??

It tickles your mouse right ?  :)

I'm on a free internet service which is great but
like all good services, it drops carrier if you're
not on your computer.  Well sometimes I get into 
a biggo nice FTP site with 100megs of Anime or
stuff right ??  So how to keep from dropping
carrier huum I'm not home but downloading for 16
or more hours ??

Tickle Your Mouse !

I this has really been worked on a lot to determine
the best way to do this cause if you just use
PEEKEVENT it ties up the computer too much, slows
down some timers check, crashes windows, eats up
LOTS of memory, etc., so this is good way for when you
on internet all kindsa stuff so this is the final good
release, Mouse Tickler !

Enjoy !
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Well with June only a few days away here's what
I have to show for updates.

Homepage work on David's GFA Homepage:
May 22, 2000
+ Clean-up all bad links and missing pictures
+ Moved MyCompressor from For Your Eyes Only Demos
  to 3rd level Postcardware, source available !
+ Added Mouse Tickler as Freeware & Source !
+ Added new page LINKS to include Dale, Russell,
  Tom, & Co. !
+ Added Irish Melodies to For Your Eyes Only Demos !

For those of you who missed it, Irish Melodies
has been moved.  You can download it from the GFAToys
section.

Up and coming ...
+ Space Traveller as Freeware & Source
+ Rainstorm as 1st level Postcardware (count 1/3rd)
+ Screen sparkler as Freeware & Source

* I like the 16x16 font so I'll use more of it in
  future programs !

That's all from this end !
Hope everyone hadda good weekend !

Sincerely,
David W.
http://www.geocities.com/dw817

- - -
Have any of you ever had Fairy's Blood ?

When my sister came to visit she had this in a
little glass decanter.  I tried a tiny sip of it and
it was soooooooo alcoholic I couldn't breathe for
a few minutes.  Dad drank some, said hummm,
White Lightning.  :)  And now I've got a fever
and massive headache Dad says is hangover ???
>From one little sip ?  Geesh !  Keep the booze
away from me !  He's calling check on me later.

Dad's coming to morrow to get the hardware working
better on my old computer.  Check out my Links for
some good things to find and play with on the net !

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Well with June only a few days away here's what
I have to show for updates.

Homepage work on David's GFA Homepage:
May 22, 2000
+ Clean-up all bad links and missing pictures
+ Moved MyCompressor from For Your Eyes Only Demos
  to 3rd level Postcardware, source available !
+ Added Mouse Tickler as Freeware & Source !
+ Added new page LINKS to include Dale, Russell,
  Tom, & Co. !
+ Added Irish Melodies to For Your Eyes Only Demos !

For those of you who missed it, Irish Melodies
has been moved.  You can download it from the GFAToys
section.

Up and coming ...
+ Space Traveller as Freeware & Source
+ Rainstorm as 1st level Postcardware (count 1/3rd)
+ Screen sparkler as Freeware & Source

* I like the 16x16 font so I'll use more of it in
  future programs !

That's all from this end !
Hope everyone hadda good weekend !

Sincerely,
David W.
http://www.geocities.com/dw817

- - -
Have any of you ever had Fairy's Blood ?

When my sister came to visit she had this in a
little glass decanter.  I tried a tiny sip of it and
it was soooooooo alcoholic I couldn't breathe for
a few minutes.  Dad drank some, said hummm,
White Lightning.  :)  And now I've got a fever
and massive headache Dad says is hangover ???
>From one little sip ?  Geesh !  Keep the booze
away from me !  He's calling check on me later.

Dad's coming to morrow to get the hardware working
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Well with June only a few days away here's what
I have to show for updates.

Homepage work on David's GFA Homepage:
May 22, 2000
+ Clean-up all bad links and missing pictures
+ Moved MyCompressor from For Your Eyes Only Demos
  to 3rd level Postcardware, source available !
+ Added Mouse Tickler as Freeware & Source !
+ Added new page LINKS to include Dale, Russell,
  Tom, & Co. !
+ Added Irish Melodies to For Your Eyes Only Demos !

For those of you who missed it, Irish Melodies
has been moved.  You can download it from the GFAToys
section.

Up and coming ...
+ Space Traveller as Freeware & Source
+ Rainstorm as 1st level Postcardware (count 1/3rd)
+ Screen sparkler as Freeware & Source

* I like the 16x16 font so I'll use more of it in
  future programs !

That's all from this end !
Hope everyone hadda good weekend !

Sincerely,
David W.
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- - -
Have any of you ever had Fairy's Blood ?

When my sister came to visit she had this in a
little glass decanter.  I tried a tiny sip of it and
it was soooooooo alcoholic I couldn't breathe for
a few minutes.  Dad drank some, said hummm,
White Lightning.  :)  And now I've got a fever
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>From one little sip ?  Geesh !  Keep the booze
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Dad's coming to morrow to get the hardware working
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:

Heyy !!

How can I send one message and 3 pop out ?
I don't know, Dale did I do something wrong ?

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I don't know David, maybe you have stuttering fingers.<G>

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> List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> Heyy !!
>
> How can I send one message and 3 pop out ?
> I don't know, Dale did I do something wrong ?
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I just check my newsletters. What happened to #179???

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Hi Bev,
GFANL179 was sent on 05/15/2000. Didn't you received it?
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Sorry Dale:

Nope! just got it four minutes ago <g>!

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--- Dale Bryant <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
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> fingers.<G>
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> Dale Bryant

I'm a Hyper-Typer Dale I can't do that !  :)
Hey my Email was down for 3 hours today !

It's up back again now but boy was it down
earlier !  Ping got me back timeout timeout.
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Okay I'm going to work a LITTLE bit on vector
stuff.  Not cause I like it, but that'll be an
easy way to post stuff without binary attachment
bitmaps & stuff.

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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
I looked for Irish Melodies but could not find it. Did you hide it?

Dale Bryant
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From: "David Wicker" <dw817@yahoo.com>
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> List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> --- Dale Bryant <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> > List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com>
> > wrote:
> > I don't know David, maybe you have stuttering
> > fingers.<G>
> >
> > Dale Bryant
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> I'm a Hyper-Typer Dale I can't do that !  :)
> Hey my Email was down for 3 hours today !
>
> It's up back again now but boy was it down
> earlier !  Ping got me back timeout timeout.
> :/
>
> Okay I'm going to work a LITTLE bit on vector
> stuff.  Not cause I like it, but that'll be an
> easy way to post stuff without binary attachment
> bitmaps & stuff.
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List Member "Bev Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
Thank u, sar but 1's enuff!!!   <g>

                             -->Bev<--

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> List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> Well, I could send you copy every day if you desire.<G>
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> > Nope! just got it four minutes ago <g>!
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> >                              -->Bev<--
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> > > List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> > > Hi Bev,
> > > GFANL179 was sent on 05/15/2000. Didn't you received it?
> > > dale
> > >
> > > Dale Bryant
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> > > > Hey Dale:
> > > >
> > > > I just check my newsletters. What happened to #179???
> > > >
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi Dale !

Owow !  Oyeah !  Super !  Okay Dad got me new
modem it is sooo fast !  It's really really fast,
did I mention its fast, oh yeah and it's FAST !

It's like all most 3x faster then my other one and
they got the super cool Playstation sampler CD #7
out maaaan I've been out for that for all most a year
got it now, game programmers all talking exchange
ideas
stuff okay.  Okay !!  :)

The music is so kick !

--- Dale Bryant <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com>
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> I looked for Irish Melodies but could not find it.
> Did you hide it?

Irish Melodies, lemme check..
Okee here's copy from my homepage:

http://www.geocities.com/dw817/gfa/momsday.zip

Okay Russell I compromise !  Your WindowLock is
super but runs so slow on my laptop, I only had my
laptop today cause Dad was playing with my real
'puter.  Okay, I'm gonna put out Dungeon.

Dungeon was like the first game I made on the Apple][+
it is SO easy to write today but a lot of fun to play
!

It won't use WindowLock, just 16x16 tiles which I
really like anyways so thats good !

My original Dungeon used 40x40 biggo 16 color pixels:
but it was fun !

Sourcecode for ALL to look at !  It's so easy to write
and maaan you all are saying I hear this old David
kid he sparkles some time but no real games ???

Yah I think so too.  I'm rewriting this cause it
was #1 game for Apple ][ many many years ago I publish
and I =LOST= the sourcecode to it right near the end !
I am sooo maaad !!  This gives me a chance to rewrite
it and let everyone =PLAY= a real game and I can
play it on my little laptop too !  :)

I got NO games to play on my laptop since I took
out QBasic !  :/

Dagorlad Defense later in GWBasic was a pooh pooh
version not nearly as good.

It's a thinking game sorta, wait and see !

D U N G E O N

coming soon !  (I should be done writing it by
Friday!)

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
UPDATE - 05/24/20000

RCGEN24.ZIP by Tom Record

rc-gen24.lst...

You select an image format to include in an *.rc file.
You give the new *.rc file a name of 8 char or less...

This appl will include ALL images of that format in the
dir you sent it to.  It then tells you how many of what
it will include.

I have 2 extra stringtables in here... one is the number
of images, the other is my contact info (an e-mail adrs).

This appl will generate an *.rc file containing all of
the selected-format images in the given dir, a stringtable
for each giving it an ID & the dimensions (WxH), & an
automatically generated versinfo segment which doesn't
require editing unless you want to change something I set
up.  That's fine by me... this is just the cornerstone.

Borland v1 will readily compile this resulting *.rc file
to an *.res file that you can $LNK into your executable.

The stringtables are intended to give me a preset image ID
& size so I can determine which of several display options
to use in a to-come "generic" display for screensavers &
animations.  Yeah, it's a glorified slideshow, but what I'm
doing is responsive to keyboard & mouse input... mess w/
either & the appl drops out & returns to your display with
whatever was on it when mine was activated.




Dale Bryant
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

The latest *.rc generator is in Dale's hands.  Is v 24.

Adds all of a selected format found in a given dir to the
*.rc file.  Adds versinfo & stringtables, also.  The new
stringtable routine adds 2 - 1 is # of images added, other 
is author contact info... e-mail.  After it adds the images
to the file, it then adds a stringtable for each image, it's
size... WxH, allowing you to select display modes image by
image without depending on the calls to minijpeg.lib.  I
frequently have trouble with this part of the routine & the 
images appear to to land where ever thwy want... overlapping, 
leaving gaps, etc.  versinfo is added after the stringtables.

Borland ResourceWorkShop v1 compiles to *.res quickly.  Be
cautious... GFA-W(16) pukes on creating executables >1M!

82 *.jpg thumbnails, 84 stringtables & versinfo = 1.9M as
*.rc.  Compiled, it is a little bigger than 600K - roughly
3:1 compression.  GFA-W(16) handles this OK.  PKlite will
NOT compress image resources - just the executable segment
of the file.  NOT much help, sometimes.

I can't get Roland's bin2res to work repeatedly... if I alter
very much in the source, it bombs!  Therefore, one is stuck
w/ the format being set to "1000" insted of "JPEG" in the
*.res.  I'm NOT smart enough to get it to include an *.rc that
contains the stringtable data or the versinfo segment.  Otherwise,
it seems to work fine... just don't alter anything <F>!

<G>
TomR.

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Hi Gang !

Okay yas been very busy !
Here's a nice toy for you to play with.

When it comes up it's invert B&W, select
B&W from menu to go to color

The color is derived from Shimmer and SmartEdging
which I haven't gone into detail about yet.
Yes the actual raw data is B&W only 8-bits
per pixel.

You guys are gonna get the source to Dungeon
itself so anything not covered in help & credits
will be there.

It should be pretty smart too and do smart
screen refresh.  It's taking too much system
time, that's the next thing to write in it.

use the "{" and "}" to change between the 4
sample screens, only 3 are recorded, #2, #3, and #4
#1 is for the game screen itself

Tab or CTRL-I will invert your B&W.
The joystick thingie works here, please let me
know if the joystick doesn't work on your end
set Joystick in menu, yah I haven't checkmarked
anything yet.

Special keys like "*" "&" "[" "]", etc.
turn into critters and stuff play with it and see !
The system font itself is zacktly 64 chars.
And yas I doodled all the funny little shapes
in my FontEdit.  :)

The results ?  A very nice playable system
that can feature a whole horde of videogames to
follow (which they will) and they're very playable
on my B&W laptop computer !  :)

Tom, if you're curious, this makes use of GrabFont,
a little utility to take out TTFs and convert them
to my .FNT format.  The typeface is called Eljborg
and I'm using HEIGHTH and WIDTH to stretch it as
far as possible into the good 16x16 field and fine
tuning done with FontEdit.

No audio yet !
Use CTRL- any menu option to get same results,
like CTRL-B for flip B&W

CTRL-Q or menu Goodbye or CTRL-G to exit only !

I'll get a good chance to rewrite Dungeon now
and play it on my laptop !  Too Cool !

Enjoy !
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Sincerely,
David W.

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Hi Tom !

Now I know recently you wanted to see how I'm
doing my Char8 so I sent you a copy of Shimmer.

I haven't heard a word from you regarding Shimmer
or Char#8 since so I guessing maybe you liked it 
a lot ??

And you'll prolly want to see how I'm doing
SmartEdge.  But Tom, I have =NOT= seen what you
are working on at all.  I don't think anyone has.

I don't mind you using my Char8, Shimmer, and
Cookie Cutter, but I'd sure like to see where
they are going !

Please post a URL that me or really anyone can
take a look at the .EXE only if you don't want to post
the sourcecode so I can see where my code is
going okay ?

I think I've been pretty fair so far in sharing
my stuff not just EXEs but sourcecode as well.
And the source for Dungeon I'll post in its entirety.

And I need please the name of the author that
first presented the Joystick routine many many
months ago when I asked about it in here.
Yah I wanna put you in the credits,
maybe put credits 2 pages instead of one.

Here is Shimmer for the rest of the gang.
[enclosed]

On a good note, I do want to mention that Tom has
been helpful on my homepage saying I shouldn't
underline the titles and it's a good idea.
Thanks Tom !

But please post that code !

Dale, if you didn't know it, this code,
Shimmer and SpaceTraveller are A-OK for posting
in your page if you like them.

If you're not posting SpaceTraveller tho I'm gonna
make it Postcardware cause I don't want to have
download source on my page what can't be gotten
here.  :)

If Shimmer isn't good enough I'll post it tho as
source in my GFA Harvest.

And LINKS is up !  Go and see you're right at the
top !  (Smile!)

Char8 is still Postcardware tho..

Thanks !

Sincerely,
David W.


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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
David
Everyone else knows what I've been working on, but I'll describe for you.

Other than screensavers, animations, wallpapers, desktops, boot & shutdown
logos, I've been engaged in building the rc-generator you'll see on Dale's
site.  It is designed around multiple images & little else at the moment.
It produces an *.rc that Borland will compile to *.res.  The gist of it is
that for each image it includes, it also writes a stringtable that makes 
available to the main appl each image's ID & it's dimensions.

I'm looking at the inclusion of menues & dialogs.  DOESN'T include icons
at the moment, but that's just an oversight I can fix easily.

To this point, I've used NOTHING of yours, so you've NOT been going uncredited.
Frills & fru-fru come much later - well after the meat & potatoes.  Most of
what I'm working with came from Roland, John or Eberhard, & yes, they're
credited
in the sourcecode which is freely available to all via Dale & frequent posts
I've
made to the list.

I'm having trouble making Roland's resource compiler accept data that I can get
Borland to readily accept & compile.  I'm pretty busy working out the kinks.
I'm
not nearly as wise as Roland - I have to sneak up on these things from behind.

Most of what you've posted to the list now resides in your own dir - I've
now been
playing w/ much of *ANYTHING* that doesn't seem to bear directly upon my
problems.

TomR.



At 06:53 AM 25/05/00 -0700, you wrote:
>Hi Tom !
>
>Now I know recently you wanted to see how I'm
>doing my Char8 so I sent you a copy of Shimmer.
>
>I haven't heard a word from you regarding Shimmer
>or Char#8 since so I guessing maybe you liked it 
>a lot ??
>
>And you'll prolly want to see how I'm doing
>SmartEdge.  But Tom, I have =NOT= seen what you
>are working on at all.  I don't think anyone has.
>
>I don't mind you using my Char8, Shimmer, and
>Cookie Cutter, but I'd sure like to see where
>they are going !
>
>Please post a URL that me or really anyone can
>take a look at the .EXE only if you don't want to post
>the sourcecode so I can see where my code is
>going okay ?
>
>I think I've been pretty fair so far in sharing
>my stuff not just EXEs but sourcecode as well.
>And the source for Dungeon I'll post in its entirety.
>
>And I need please the name of the author that
>first presented the Joystick routine many many
>months ago when I asked about it in here.
>Yah I wanna put you in the credits,
>maybe put credits 2 pages instead of one.
>
>Here is Shimmer for the rest of the gang.
>[enclosed]
>
>On a good note, I do want to mention that Tom has
>been helpful on my homepage saying I shouldn't
>underline the titles and it's a good idea.
>Thanks Tom !
>
>But please post that code !
>
>Dale, if you didn't know it, this code,
>Shimmer and SpaceTraveller are A-OK for posting
>in your page if you like them.
>
>If you're not posting SpaceTraveller tho I'm gonna
>make it Postcardware cause I don't want to have
>download source on my page what can't be gotten
>here.  :)
>
>If Shimmer isn't good enough I'll post it tho as
>source in my GFA Harvest.
>
>And LINKS is up !  Go and see you're right at the
>top !  (Smile!)
>
>Char8 is still Postcardware tho..
>
>Thanks !
>
>Sincerely,
>David W.
>
>
>__________________________________________________
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Tooom !

That's not fair !

Shall I describe to you how Dungeon works ?

Nono..  I'm sending the SOURCE code to it.
Tom I'm not even asking for your sourcecode at this
point.  I just want to see where all my things are
going in a nice runnable .EXE.

I'm a hands-on kinna guy and I like to see the
tapioca pudding rather then the recipe for it.

Incidentally Rose makes one GOOD Tapioca Cake !  ^o^

I will ask now since you might seem to know how DO
you change the bootup screen for Windows 98 ?
(Please don't focus your entire reply on this!) :)

You mentioned you were going to use Char#8 so
do something PLEASE when I send you code relevant
to what you ask for.

1. Burp.
2. Snort.
3. Cough.
4. Scratch yourself somewhere.

(or all 4)

I could describe what I'm gonna do a few weeks
from now till I'm blue in the face.  But I imagine
every one and your self would like to see how it's
done.

Tom, if your work is this precious to you and you
will not send the source that's fine, at least send
a .EXE !

But which would you rather have ?

1. A good description of a program.
2. The .EXE of it to run and play.
3. The source code of it maybe learn something.

Think carefully now, that's not a trick question,
and no help from the audience please.

Tom, remember, your answer
must be in the form of a question.  :)

Sincerely,
David W.
- + -
How to make someone's day. (in 3 steps)

1. Find stressed out associate.

2. Pass by casually.
   Offer compliment, "Great haircut."
   Or, "Wow, cool dress."

3. Watch from afar as associate
   is *magically* revived !

(And no Tom, I don't wear a dress
 and I'M =NEVER= ever now and forever gonna
 get a haircut so don't pull this one on me!)  :)
- + -

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<tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> David
> Everyone else knows what I've been working on, but
> I'll describe for you.
> 
> Other than screensavers, animations, wallpapers,
> desktops, boot & shutdown
> logos, I've been engaged in building the
> rc-generator you'll see on Dale's
> site.  It is designed around multiple images &
> little else at the moment.
> It produces an *.rc that Borland will compile to
> *.res.  The gist of it is
> that for each image it includes, it also writes a
> stringtable that makes 
> available to the main appl each image's ID & it's
> dimensions.
> 
> I'm looking at the inclusion of menues & dialogs. 
> DOESN'T include icons
> at the moment, but that's just an oversight I can
> fix easily.
> 
> To this point, I've used NOTHING of yours, so you've
> NOT been going uncredited.
> Frills & fru-fru come much later - well after the
> meat & potatoes.  Most of
> what I'm working with came from Roland, John or
> Eberhard, & yes, they're
> credited
> in the sourcecode which is freely available to all
> via Dale & frequent posts
> I've
> made to the list.
> 
> I'm having trouble making Roland's resource compiler
> accept data that I can get
> Borland to readily accept & compile.  I'm pretty
> busy working out the kinks.
> I'm
> not nearly as wise as Roland - I have to sneak up on
> these things from behind.
> 
> Most of what you've posted to the list now resides
> in your own dir - I've
> now been
> playing w/ much of *ANYTHING* that doesn't seem to
> bear directly upon my
> problems.
> 
> TomR.



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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
If you guys
(and gals who are awfully quiet out there)
haven't all ready figured out, my MakeScrn
is making a quick temp window in the bottom
right-hand corner of screen to Super Render
the colors to the straight B&W data.

Well, went to see my shrink today he wanted to
see it, ran it, and his window screen is
different then mine sooooooo ..
Well it left a little white smudge on every
character.  Huuum ...  :/

If you need a fixed version, lemme know,
I'm gonna make the temp work inside the same
window now with WindowLock, but WindowLock ONLY
for rendering work.

WindowLock for an entire 19x13 16x16 pixel display
is too slow on my laptop, sorry Russell !

Credits needs about 4 pages
3 pages too for Help okay !

Probably 8 pages recorded, 10 accessible
when all done.

* #1 Author
* #2-4 Help
* #5-8 Credits
  #9 display
  #10 storage for next display (animation deluxe!)

* = Record to file

Maybe scroll Help & Credits up/down

(Is Deluxe a word or a company from years ago ?)
 (Does anyone know ?)

Proposed Menu
Pyramax -> Author, Credits, Goodbye
Game ----> New, Load, Save, Status, Help
System --> Color, Invert, Minimize, PCSpeaker,
           Midi, Keyboard, Joystick

3 menus only cause Win3.1 hates more then that..

Remove REFRESH cause its smart to refresh normal
Keystrokes: ACGNLSTHOIZPMKJ

16 CTRL/Mouse keystrokes total
include CTRL-Q to exit cold

I'm still shooting for Dungeon source being done by
Friday but no guarantees !  Rose =IS= visiting this
week and I need some Human time.  :)

Sincerely,
David W.


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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
David
You aren't missing ANYTHING!  I glance at everthing you send, then if it
appears irrelevant, I put it in your folder & forget about it for the
time being.  I'm trying to solve several problems & anything that doesn't
scream at me that it is the answer to one of them just doesn't get very
much attention for now.

I'm writing NOTHING that uses any of your code.  If I do, take it as gospel
that I will send you a copy direct so you will probably get 2 copies because
I'll most likely post it to the list &/or send it to Dale.

I've asked several questions of you & never got answered in a manner I can make
use of.  Example... read a TT font & make use of it.  You have now done this
in some manner, but... the doing is covered up in some secretive process & I
don't have access to it.  Ok... I'll work this out on my own (as usuall) & then
post it for all to see & use (as usuall).  Later, tho - it isn't my #1 priority.

TomR.


At 11:43 AM 25/05/00 -0700, you wrote:
>List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Tooom !
>
>That's not fair !
>
>Shall I describe to you how Dungeon works ?
>
>Nono..  I'm sending the SOURCE code to it.
>Tom I'm not even asking for your sourcecode at this
>point.  I just want to see where all my things are
>going in a nice runnable .EXE.
>
>I'm a hands-on kinna guy and I like to see the
>tapioca pudding rather then the recipe for it.
>
>Incidentally Rose makes one GOOD Tapioca Cake !  ^o^
>
>I will ask now since you might seem to know how DO
>you change the bootup screen for Windows 98 ?
>(Please don't focus your entire reply on this!) :)
>
>You mentioned you were going to use Char#8 so
>do something PLEASE when I send you code relevant
>to what you ask for.
>
>1. Burp.
>2. Snort.
>3. Cough.
>4. Scratch yourself somewhere.
>
>(or all 4)
>
>I could describe what I'm gonna do a few weeks
>from now till I'm blue in the face.  But I imagine
>every one and your self would like to see how it's
>done.
>
>Tom, if your work is this precious to you and you
>will not send the source that's fine, at least send
>a .EXE !
>
>But which would you rather have ?
>
>1. A good description of a program.
>2. The .EXE of it to run and play.
>3. The source code of it maybe learn something.
>
>Think carefully now, that's not a trick question,
>and no help from the audience please.
>
>Tom, remember, your answer
>must be in the form of a question.  :)
>
>Sincerely,
>David W.
>- + -
>How to make someone's day. (in 3 steps)
>
>1. Find stressed out associate.
>
>2. Pass by casually.
>   Offer compliment, "Great haircut."
>   Or, "Wow, cool dress."
>
>3. Watch from afar as associate
>   is *magically* revived !
>
>(And no Tom, I don't wear a dress
> and I'M =NEVER= ever now and forever gonna
> get a haircut so don't pull this one on me!)  :)
>- + -
>
>--- Tom Record
><tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> List Member Tom Record
>> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> David
>> Everyone else knows what I've been working on, but
>> I'll describe for you.
>> 
>> Other than screensavers, animations, wallpapers,
>> desktops, boot & shutdown
>> logos, I've been engaged in building the
>> rc-generator you'll see on Dale's
>> site.  It is designed around multiple images &
>> little else at the moment.
>> It produces an *.rc that Borland will compile to
>> *.res.  The gist of it is
>> that for each image it includes, it also writes a
>> stringtable that makes 
>> available to the main appl each image's ID & it's
>> dimensions.
>> 
>> I'm looking at the inclusion of menues & dialogs. 
>> DOESN'T include icons
>> at the moment, but that's just an oversight I can
>> fix easily.
>> 
>> To this point, I've used NOTHING of yours, so you've
>> NOT been going uncredited.
>> Frills & fru-fru come much later - well after the
>> meat & potatoes.  Most of
>> what I'm working with came from Roland, John or
>> Eberhard, & yes, they're
>> credited
>> in the sourcecode which is freely available to all
>> via Dale & frequent posts
>> I've
>> made to the list.
>> 
>> I'm having trouble making Roland's resource compiler
>> accept data that I can get
>> Borland to readily accept & compile.  I'm pretty
>> busy working out the kinks.
>> I'm
>> not nearly as wise as Roland - I have to sneak up on
>> these things from behind.
>> 
>> Most of what you've posted to the list now resides
>> in your own dir - I've
>> now been
>> playing w/ much of *ANYTHING* that doesn't seem to
>> bear directly upon my
>> problems.
>> 
>> TomR.
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
  /
\/_
--- Tom Record
<tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> David
> You aren't missing ANYTHING!  I glance at everthing
> you send, then if it
> appears irrelevant, I put it in your folder & forget
> about it for the
> time being.  I'm trying to solve several problems &
> anything that doesn't
> scream at me that it is the answer to one of them
> just doesn't get very
> much attention for now.
> 
> I'm writing NOTHING that uses any of your code.  If
> I do, take it as gospel
> that I will send you a copy direct so you will
> probably get 2 copies because
> I'll most likely post it to the list &/or send it to
> Dale.
> 
> I've asked several questions of you & never got
> answered in a manner I can make
> use of.  Example... read a TT font & make use of it.
>  You have now done this
> in some manner, but... the doing is covered up in
> some secretive process & I
> don't have access to it.  Ok... I'll work this out
> on my own (as usuall) & then
> post it for all to see & use (as usuall).  Later,
> tho - it isn't my #1 priority.
> 
> TomR.

Tom !  That's easy, here's how to nip a
TTF Font so you can play with it:

DIM Font$(63)
FONT "elbjorg",HEIGHT 16, WIDTH 16 TO F
SETFONT F
FOR I=32 TO 95
  PRINT AT(0,0)CHR$(I);
  GET 0,0,15,15,Font$(I-32)
NEXT I
FREEFONT F

8-lines for ya, howzzat ?  :)

Remember Tom, I like it simple stuff.

Hey gang don't dismiss those dollar $igns
for getting graphics !  Yah they're limited
to size but think about it, you get 32760
characters per string not even counting array
goodies sooo an =EXACT= image of 91x90 with
4 bytes per pixel (someone who has way too good
a color screen!), 91x90x4 yields a cool sweet
32760 !  :)

If you're trying to nail down the whole screen
using strings only, you can do a 480 line screen
in 40 bar chunks !  640x12x4 = 30720 , 480\12 = 40
Nice !

Yah lemme know if 4 bytes isn't enough for a single
pixel - geesh !  ^o^

Natch you don't wanna save off data this way cause
the screens won't match, all ways use save bitmap
or dibs or whatever melts your butter.  (Smile)

- - -

Okay, I have a question and please don't every one
attack me for it or say I need to learn C !

I can put a menu option called Priority in
which will use PEEKEVENT instead of SLEEP or
GETEVENT.  My question is, how do I easily
use SLEEP or GETEVENT which will nip out a
key the exact instance you hit one and it
immediately exits sleep or getevent.

This is I just sayed that I don't want to use
Priority if I don't have to.

Try this out:

OPENW #1
DO
  K$ = INKEY$
  IF K$ > "" THEN PRINT K$;
  SLEEP
UNTIL K$ = CHR$(27)
CLOSEW #1

Run it, try a few keys,

okee hold down a key to see the pattern
you need your key repeat rate really really
fast like I got mine to see this.

now change
SLEEP to GETEVENT, run it, no
differences its lagging slow about 10th of
a second or so, it's noticeable in bigger
programs especially

now change sleep to PEEKEVENT.
Run it, much better !  But at a cost of
system time !

How do I nail out a INKEY$ the instant
its hit or anything for that matter ?

SLEEP and GETEVENT hiccup just a heartbeat
before continuing.

This hiccup is very critical in big code
because the keystroke can be delayed as
long as 3/4 second before returning !
Joystick movements with SLEEP and GETEVENT
are REALLY bad moving almost a full step further
after you let go controllers and giving a good 3/4
second hesitate before it does.  :/

This is the way it is in Dungeon so far..
PEEKEVENT fixes completely but at cost of system speed
to rest of resources.  My background MIDI player
goes half speed with PEEKEVENT.

? Puzzler for me ?

And no SETTIMER 1,1,1
won't fix it either, that's too slow.

Jukebox waited for a mouse click inside if you
strayed may do that here.

I'm still working on Dungeon !

The game itself is moot simple but I wanna nice
shell I can use for every other game to follow
thats why its taking so long..  :)

Sincerely,
David W.

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nviewl16.dll will NOT survive running PKlite on it.  It crunches down
42%, but will NOT function afterward.  No error is reported, the using
appl just hangs up & dies while making the initialization.

Discovered while working on something other than *.scr, where I need the
added formats & *.jpg save.

<F>
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:

--- Tom Record
<tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> nviewl16.dll will NOT survive running PKlite on it. 
> It crunches down
> 42%, but will NOT function afterward.  No error is
> reported, the using
> appl just hangs up & dies while making the
> initialization.
> 
> Discovered while working on something other than
> *.scr, where I need the
> added formats & *.jpg save.
> 
> <F>
> TomR.

Acch !
I was thinking about getting back into DLLs but not
if there's a chance mine won't crunch cleanly..

Thanks for the info Tom !  :)

As you discovered a bug so have I ..

(grabbing an echo microphone)

DOSSHELL CAN BE DEADLY !

Okay, here's how, run this program at your
own risk !

OPENW #1
T = TIMER
WHILE TIMER - T < 5000 AND TIMER >= T
  PEEKEVENT
WEND
SHELL "DIR>DIR.TXT"
DO
  PEEKEVENT
UNTIL MOUSEK
CLOSEW #1

Run it, quickly work to a full screen DOSSHELL,
you have 5 seconds to get there and once you are
in a full screen DOSSHELL just hit keys on the
keyboard or DIR or anything for a few seconds and
eventually ...!

Harmless right ??  Well, GFA has a very nasty
error.  If you do a SHELL or EXEC or z=Exec()
and you are in a full dos screen that is you cannot
see the (START) in the bottom-left hand corner,
your computer will hang and for good !

As near as I can figure when you are in a full screen
DOS SHELL, GFA gets greedy and instead of making a
new one, it wants to use the one you're in and well,
the sign outside says OCCUPIED, GFA has a temper
tantrum and crashes the whole computer... :/
Who spoiled this thing anyways ??  :)

In this case it could be wait for keyboard, mouse,
anything, nothing responds, all is gone ..

CTRL-ALT-DEL won't help, if you don't have reset
switching like mine then power down, I do mine..  :/

I found this out I'm still using RawJukebox which
relies on SHELL calling PKUNZJR.  No, it's not
specifically PKUNZJR, you can use any DOS command
in SHELL, ECHO, CD, CLS, anything.

I think this confirms that SHELL for GFA is one
very unreliable little command and deadly now too
it seems.

Feedback, comments ?

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Thank you.
TomR.


>
>Tom !  That's easy, here's how to nip a
>TTF Font so you can play with it:
>
>DIM Font$(63)
>FONT "elbjorg",HEIGHT 16, WIDTH 16 TO F
>SETFONT F
>FOR I=32 TO 95
>  PRINT AT(0,0)CHR$(I);
>  GET 0,0,15,15,Font$(I-32)
>NEXT I
>FREEFONT F
>
>8-lines for ya, howzzat ?  :)
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David
NOT exactly what I had in mind, but close enough to give me the feeling that
what I was thinking I could do will work fine.  I'll most likely do it in a
different manner than you, but should be able to come up w/ just about the same 
thing.  Thanks for the confirmation.
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Thank you.
> TomR.

Well Tom, you're very welcome !  (Smile!)

Now maybe you can help me !  :)
I'd like to know how to change the bootup
screen for Windows 98.  95 is not a problem,
simple hidden file, 98 ??  Who knows !

Okee I download looked at stuff you've done
everyone's done, everybody in GFA's done.

Nobody programs like me I mean no one not
one single person at all period..

If there was ever a reason for me to be
really lonely and hate myself for choosing GFA
in the programming world I think that would be now..

I looked at all the games for GFA too,
yah all 4..  :/  And sourcecode is all
for C programmers..  4th game you lot haven't
seen I imagine is Russell's very nice Space Asteroids.
But even Russell follows in the footsteps, follows
in the pattern, glides into the heartbeat, and
sways to the melody of the forever C programmer..
Not entirely, but you are just a bit Russell..  :/

I know - I know that In A Wonderful Life
the guy wished he was never alive and that
wasn't a good thing right but if GFA wasn't
so forgiving of my bad coding or something
and said you write C only David or no working
at all, maybe I'd still be in QBasic I dunno.

But if GFA allows my kind of coding then it
can't be all wrong right ??

I really don't want to be the single sole
numero uno one pioneer forging the way for
videogames in GFA but damned if it doesn't
look like it's that way..

I read in your source too said in there
that you:
/* Yeah, I know, this could be simplified... but this
works & is
/* beginning to bring in some money!

That must be nice Tom.  I am so far and away
from gaining any money at all..  The only postcard
I got was from Susan and she was just saying Hi
nice card tho I kept it..  pinned it on the wall
with all the rest.  My grand total is up to 1
counting Susan's card.

The only money I'm earning is from the goverment
cause they agree I'm too incompetent to ever
hold a job EVER.  That hurts Tom.

Tom see it from my viewpoint.  Nobody writes any
code thats really too useful for what you like to
program.  The "heavy hitters" in GFA are making
some money at their coding and everyone wants you
to share your coding, well, you don't ask for
money cause that's too rude I guess,
(read: zero backbone)

you didn't like the credit stuff cause it was lots of
nice
words on the screen
(read: extreme low self-esteem countered by daily
praise)
 but that's it, so now you
say well let's try a postcard and you'll be
damned if no-one is even going to do that..
(easier to glut code from David, he'll post it all
anyways
eventually..)

You're talking with a fellow who writes and sounds
like he is earning less then $400 a month like you
and so you start reading his posted stuff maybe
get ideas maybe just change scenery for a-bit,
maybe see that he too is all feerusterrated and takes
it out in his code allegorically, mathematically,
maniacally, deviously, treacherously, and insanely...
just as you do (which he doesn't) ... and seeing that
the code he is writing he is earning off of it
to boot..

Not words on the screen, not silly little postcards,
but real money, and there's expectations of more
coming in.  The exact amount is completely
unimportant.
It could grand total 1/2 a cent and I'd be jealous.

Must be nice.

Tom, I went through all this in 7 different software
companies.  I knowing you been jerked all round with
the gasoline stuff people stealing and you gotta
read metres and stuff.

Lor knows I'm not gonna condemn you cause you earning
money, that's great and I'm glad happy for you.
But that doesn't match the picture I had earlier
of you..  I know right NOW you're not earning any
money.

But Tom, you earned something- something.
That's more then I can ever claim today or to-morrow.

Are you going to tell me that today and for tomorrow
which is the day beyond from today including the next
day that this little envelope, this window, this
opening, this treacle is as of now forever closed to
you, you posted the message too hastily,
and that you will now earn no more ?

It's 1:30am and my meds have kicked in I guess..
Sure doesn't feel like it..  Okay, okay.
Sure picked out their psycho affectives.  :)

(And now "The Voice" we like to hear)
Dungeon menus complete, 6-bit screens expanded
for 10 screens total, 8 internal, speed up great
deal by use of Isolati tile plotting.  Instrux
are 3 page, credz are 3 pages, author is 1, logo
is 1. 8 total. Gonna hook in smart pixel-per-frame
scrolling for dox files, all ready has area for
top 5 players and name spots.  Smart menu checkmarks,
ghost out unavailable, hotkeys, ctrl-keys, alt-keys
and spent 3 hours today getting joystick to be 100%
compatible, clean-up all images, added priority
instance checking, -okay, this is all ready done
today, yah I've been busy today I guess.

All so Hooked in plug-in for expanded graphix later
for later games written, up to 256 graphic tiles.

Main reason I'm writing this is cause I want to,
yah I'm past that now I think, I'm writing it cause
I feel the very urgent need to SHATTER the protective
dome around GFA that has all but forbid videogame
programmers into its niche.

Main reason I'm releasing sourcecode, well I like you
guys a lot right but I think there's a deeper issue
here.  No it's so if/when GFA dies and chokes in
itself
from lack of substantial evidence of any specific
graphic/audio/game elements, there will at least by
Lor be one and perhaps the only one with sourcecode
ready for anyone to download and understand and
see the misbegotten dreams of one very archaic
hacker programmer who is forever chasing the dreams of
tomorrow's impossible fantasies!

And what am I supposed to think of that ?

Doing audio will be lotsa fun with Mr. Loock's
MIDI gizzymo but I don't really care right now..

Hope you guys (and very few girls) like it.

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:

--- Tom Record
<tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> David
> NOT exactly what I had in mind, but close enough to
> give me the feeling that
> what I was thinking I could do will work fine.  I'll
> most likely do it in a
> different manner than you, but should be able to
> come up w/ just about the same 
> thing.  Thanks for the confirmation.
> TomR.
> 

Well Tom, what can I say.

I'm glad I wrote some code that was useful to
you only after you would have written it yourself
first before I wrote mine.

Perhaps in the future I'll write some original code
before yours, but you'll need to send me a copy
of yours first so I can confirm it.  :)

Sincerely,
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
David
Don't be snide, please - it is unbecoming of your talent as a programmer.
Bear one
other small fact in mind... I'm twice your age & have been, in all
liklihood, MUCH
farther down the road.  I suspect I've thought of a lot of things LONG
before you.
I was known internationally in the world of oil & electronics LONG before
you came
into being.  I still have things working in Sumatra & South American
countries.  I
would like to think my space potty is still being used - it made ALL Apollo
flights
& visited the moon!

IF you want to see what I've written, go clean Dale's site out - most of it
is there
or was posted to the list.  That Win95 logo routine is over two years old!
I learned
popup menus with it by working thru load_pic.gfw, a 1995 file written in
German, but 
has no author's name in it.  Something else I learned from that... it writes
a "*.pic"
file that has a nasty hook in it!  Whatever the screen colordepth is when it is 
written is the ONLY colordepth it can be displayed at!  You can't write one
at 24-bit
or 16-bit, then display it at 8-bit or vice versa!  I suspect that it's
really just a
"raw" image file & therefore incapable of display at any colordepth other
that the
one it was written in.  *.raw doesn't carry color data the way other formats do.

TomR.



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>List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>--- Tom Record
><tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> List Member Tom Record
>> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> David
>> NOT exactly what I had in mind, but close enough to
>> give me the feeling that
>> what I was thinking I could do will work fine.  I'll
>> most likely do it in a
>> different manner than you, but should be able to
>> come up w/ just about the same 
>> thing.  Thanks for the confirmation.
>> TomR.
>> 
>
>Well Tom, what can I say.
>
>I'm glad I wrote some code that was useful to
>you only after you would have written it yourself
>first before I wrote mine.
>
>Perhaps in the future I'll write some original code
>before yours, but you'll need to send me a copy
>of yours first so I can confirm it.  :)
>
>Sincerely,
>David W.
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
David
It's 4:20 a.m. now.  I'm 5-1/2 hrs north of you & maybe 150 miles east of you.

Win98 does NOT have a startup logo, & from what I've seen, you can add 500 of'em
to your windows dir & it won't show even one of them.  Win98's win.com has NO
internal mention of one.  I know NOTHING about Win2000.  Win.com is the file
that
initiates the loading of all of Windows' modules & setting it into operation.

You are absolutely correct, saying that NOBODY programs like you.  Most
appear to
have come to GFA from "C", PASCAL, or something like that.  *I* came over from
LibertyBASIC, where I could do almost everything I can w/ GFA but make
executables.
LB is like VB... it takes 1.4M of support *.dlls to even run!

Your being different is no crime or stigma... you know lots of thing we want to
learn from you & hopefully, we can teach you lots, too.

As for stealing your code & revamping it for *my* use... FORGET IT!  The
most I've
gained so far from you is confirmation of two or three things I already thought
just might work for me.  I am NOT using ANY of your code - as is or modified!  I
seriously doubt anybody else is, either.  Yes, I've tried to modify some
stuff so 
I could possibly use it, but have been totally unsuccessful getting it to do
what
I'd like.  Get it into your mind tho, IF I use anything of yours, you will be
credited & given a copy of the source!  I DO NOT STEAL FROM ANYBODY!!!!!

TomR.



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>> TomR.
>
>Well Tom, you're very welcome !  (Smile!)
>
>Now maybe you can help me !  :)
>I'd like to know how to change the bootup
>screen for Windows 98.  95 is not a problem,
>simple hidden file, 98 ??  Who knows !
>
>Okee I download looked at stuff you've done
>everyone's done, everybody in GFA's done.
>
>Nobody programs like me I mean no one not
>one single person at all period..
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List Member "Russell Hayward" <russ@softhome.net> wrote:
Hi David,

> Try this out:
>
> OPENW #1
> DO
>   K$ = INKEY$
>   IF K$ > "" THEN PRINT K$;
>   SLEEP
> UNTIL K$ = CHR$(27)
> CLOSEW #1
>
> Run it, try a few keys,
>
> okee hold down a key to see the pattern
> you need your key repeat rate really really
> fast like I got mine to see this.
>
> now change
> SLEEP to GETEVENT, run it, no
> differences its lagging slow about 10th of
> a second or so, it's noticeable in bigger
> programs especially
>
> now change sleep to PEEKEVENT.
> Run it, much better !  But at a cost of
> system time !
>
> How do I nail out a INKEY$ the instant
> its hit or anything for that matter ?

I think your problem is INKEY$. GFA's input (and some output) commands tend
to mess up the message queue, which is how your program receives keystrokes.
Try this:

OPENW #1
DO
  ' PEEKEVENT
  GETEVENT
  ' SLEEP
  IF _Mess=WM_CHAR
    EXIT IF _wParam=27
    PRINT CHR$(_wParam);
  ENDIF
LOOP
CLOSEW #1

It works fine for me, but if that's no better for you then try replacing the
PRINT line with this:

TEXT x,0,CHR$(_wParam)
ADD x,TXTLEN(CHR$(_wParam))

PRINT also messes with the message queue.

> And no SETTIMER 1,1,1
> won't fix it either, that's too slow.

I find the minimum resolution for Windows timers is around 50 milliseconds,
it could be different for everyone though.

HTH,
Russell Hayward

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> David
> Don't be snide, please - it is unbecoming of your
> talent as a programmer.

Tom that's not snide.  That's a Sword Sentence.
My REAL Mom taught me that years ago they're hard
to write sometimes but they do things.

1. If the person reading it in any way was offended
   by it.  It dips their hand that they were being
   dishonest with you in one way or another.

2. This forces back in themselves and reinforces
   their guilt inside their heads.

3. If they were up and up and completely honest
   with you, it's just a silly sentence anyways
   you looking at it and they joke about it.

* This #3 did not happen.

That kinna wording I got from Beagle Bros. software
when I submitted my code company years ago they said:

What you have written has just confirmed what
we had known all along and we appreciate this
information now that we know it will work.

That kinna wording I got from Origin Systems
when I sent them my code for possible publishing:

Thank you for confirming what we were working
towards.  We do not see an opening for you at this
time but what you've written confirms some work we
had already begun.

Tom, it's the last straw I've had it.

I may only get Email from this one forum cause
and no-where else cause no-one likes me except
my QBees and I knowing that I can be and have
I'm so hard to get along with but I'll sacrifice
that to avoid hearing things like this dredging
up from the past.

I thought I left all this behind.
I see now the present and future hold it all
over again.

Give me a break you thought of Shimmer already.
Tom I downloaded every single program in there
and your stuff.  Before you met me,
Shimmer was not in your head, period.

Neither was Kaleidoscope, Swirl3,
Cathedral2, Crystal Waves, Char8, and especially
not Shimmer.

I have no doubt you'll write your own, which
I'll never see, either the .EXE to or especially
the source.  That might be telling.

But Tom know this, it's people like you who take
ideas and stuff from people like me that drive
them completely insane and over the edge cause
their creativity and coding is ripp-p-ped
to high Heaven.

And I will have some programs in the future
that just might have some things you haven't
thought of already, especially if I keep the
source myself.

No more source codes in Forum.
Leaving Forum.

As you said so fondly earlier.

Fare Thee Well.

Sincerely,
David

> Bear one
> other small fact in mind... I'm twice your age &
> have been, in all
> liklihood, MUCH
> farther down the road.  I suspect I've thought of a
> lot of things LONG
> before you.
> I was known internationally in the world of oil &
> electronics LONG before
> you came
> into being.  I still have things working in Sumatra
> & South American
> countries.  I
> would like to think my space potty is still being
> used - it made ALL Apollo
> flights
> & visited the moon!

Kudos for your work to NASA.

> 
> IF you want to see what I've written, go clean
> Dale's site out - most of it
> is there
> or was posted to the list.  That Win95 logo routine
> is over two years old!
> I learned
> popup menus with it by working thru load_pic.gfw, a
> 1995 file written in
> German, but 
> has no author's name in it.  Something else I
> learned from that... it writes
> a "*.pic"
> file that has a nasty hook in it!  Whatever the
> screen colordepth is when it is 
> written is the ONLY colordepth it can be displayed
> at!  You can't write one
> at 24-bit
> or 16-bit, then display it at 8-bit or vice versa! 
> I suspect that it's
> really just a
> "raw" image file & therefore incapable of display at
> any colordepth other
> that the
> one it was written in.  *.raw doesn't carry color
> data the way other formats do.

I used *.RAW files all the time when I was in
QBasic and used Image Alchemy for DOS under
command line mode.

It's how I wrote DragonRider, TreasureHunter,
Quest of Ao Tia, Mercury Messenger, Dagorlad Defense,
Orbs of Ankhar, Scenario, Professor Twist's Tome,
Treasure Island, Quest for the Ruby Eye, etc..

Too many games and graphic utils too few expectations
to want to share them ever again..

> 
> TomR.
> 
> 
> 
> At 12:27 AM 26/05/00 -0700, you wrote:
> >List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >--- Tom Record
> ><tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> >> List Member Tom Record
> >> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net>
> wrote:
> >> David
> >> NOT exactly what I had in mind, but close enough
> to
> >> give me the feeling that
> >> what I was thinking I could do will work fine. 
> I'll
> >> most likely do it in a
> >> different manner than you, but should be able to
> >> come up w/ just about the same 
> >> thing.  Thanks for the confirmation.
> >> TomR.
> >> 
> >
> >Well Tom, what can I say.
> >
> >I'm glad I wrote some code that was useful to
> >you only after you would have written it yourself
> >first before I wrote mine.
> >
> >Perhaps in the future I'll write some original code
> >before yours, but you'll need to send me a copy
> >of yours first so I can confirm it.  :)
> >
> >Sincerely,
> >David W.


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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Thanks Russell.

I'll mention this as I'm heading out on this
stagecoach out of town.

I really do appreciate everything you have done.
You have always answered every single one of my
questions 100% effectively and without you, entering
GFA would have been a much more difficult journey.

What I've learned from you that applies directly
towards the coding I'm doing is a thousandfold and
then some.  I'm glad I can write some code you
enjoy.

Whether you hide it well or you are 100% up and
up, THANKS for not leading me in any directions
that my code was getting ripped.  (Gentle Smile)

What you don't know can't hurt you
is a VERY TRUE statement in my head !

Russell tried your program looks good !
Will continue as we have in EMail back and
forth.  Look for Dungeon not Friday Aieee
its all ready Friday !  Probably
Monday or Tuesday, I'll put it in your weekly
Fun Bundle.  :)

Dale, I never wanted you to be part of my paranoia,
and to this day you haven't.  I REALLY do appreciate
YOU and that for it.  I'll try to finish Dungeon by
Monday and send you a copy but I say now my initial
earlier trust with GFA and sharing code has been
effectively shattered to smithereens except for a
remote few.

Leaving Forum.

+ Fool me once, shame on you.
+ Fool me twice, shame on me.

Sincerely,
David

--- Russell Hayward <russ@softhome.net> wrote:
> List Member "Russell Hayward" <russ@softhome.net>
> wrote:
> Hi David,
> 
> > Try this out:
> >
> > OPENW #1
> > DO
> >   K$ = INKEY$
> >   IF K$ > "" THEN PRINT K$;
> >   SLEEP
> > UNTIL K$ = CHR$(27)
> > CLOSEW #1
> >
> > Run it, try a few keys,
> >
> > okee hold down a key to see the pattern
> > you need your key repeat rate really really
> > fast like I got mine to see this.
> >
> > now change
> > SLEEP to GETEVENT, run it, no
> > differences its lagging slow about 10th of
> > a second or so, it's noticeable in bigger
> > programs especially
> >
> > now change sleep to PEEKEVENT.
> > Run it, much better !  But at a cost of
> > system time !
> >
> > How do I nail out a INKEY$ the instant
> > its hit or anything for that matter ?
> 
> I think your problem is INKEY$. GFA's input (and
> some output) commands tend
> to mess up the message queue, which is how your
> program receives keystrokes.
> Try this:
> 
> OPENW #1
> DO
>   ' PEEKEVENT
>   GETEVENT
>   ' SLEEP
>   IF _Mess=WM_CHAR
>     EXIT IF _wParam=27
>     PRINT CHR$(_wParam);
>   ENDIF
> LOOP
> CLOSEW #1
> 
> It works fine for me, but if that's no better for
> you then try replacing the
> PRINT line with this:
> 
> TEXT x,0,CHR$(_wParam)
> ADD x,TXTLEN(CHR$(_wParam))
> 
> PRINT also messes with the message queue.
> 
> > And no SETTIMER 1,1,1
> > won't fix it either, that's too slow.
> 
> I find the minimum resolution for Windows timers is
> around 50 milliseconds,
> it could be different for everyone though.
> 
> HTH,
> Russell Hayward
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
David, we don't want to steal from you, we just want to share with you.  I
never use anything from anyone unless they give me permission.  Please!!, I
have know Tom for a long time and I think maybe you  are being unfair.  You
have lot to teach us David,  please continue to do so.
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> But Tom know this, it's people like you who take
> ideas and stuff from people like me that drive
> them completely insane and over the edge cause
> their creativity and coding is ripp-p-ped
> to high Heaven.
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----- Original Message -----
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> Win98 does NOT have a startup logo, & from what I've seen, you can add 500
of'em
> to your windows dir & it won't show even one of them.  Win98's win.com has
NO
> internal mention of one

Tom, Win98 has a built-in logo; if you want your own to load you must name
it LOGO.SYS & place it in the ROOT directory of C:!  (Win95 is the same)

> You are absolutely correct, saying that NOBODY programs like you.  Most
> appear to have come to GFA from "C", PASCAL, or something like that.

Damn, I thought most of us came from ATARI <cheers>; GFA Basic was written
for it first!  <g>

> I DO NOT STEAL FROM ANYBODY!!!!!

None of us do, Tom but we recognize his paranoia.

>>>>>unsubscribe<<<<<

I guess that's one way of getting in the last word; send a message after!!!

> But Tom know this, it's people like you who take
> ideas and stuff from people like me that drive
> them completely insane and over the edge cause
> their creativity and coding is ripp-p-ped
> to high Heaven.

I'm sorry Dale but I, at least, do not need this; David is one of the main
reasons I have kept my mouth shut for so long.

I apologize to everyone on this list BUT I needed a chance to blow off,
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List Member Peuapeu@aol.com wrote:
Hi,

Has anyone used dongles to protect their software?  I have a situation where 
a number of people in other countries want to purchase and even distribute my 
program but they are advising me that I MUST have an effective protection 
system.  For example, one person told me that if they sell one copy to a 
local school and come back a month later, it is not unusual to see the 
program on a dozen machines.  

James Schumacher
peuapeu@aol.com
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Subject: Re: [gfabasic] reply to all this stuff
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Sorry, fellers!
Nothing he sent me is on the computer now - that's how much I "ripped" him off.
I don't have to steal from anybody!
TomR!


At 01:08 PM 26/05/00 -0400, you wrote:
>List Member "Bev Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
>Hi All:
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Tom Record" <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net>
>To: <gfabasic@gfa.net>
>Sent: Friday, May 26, 2000 6:01 AM
>Subject: Re: [gfabasic] font situation
>
>> Win98 does NOT have a startup logo, & from what I've seen, you can add 500
>of'em
>> to your windows dir & it won't show even one of them.  Win98's win.com has
>NO
>> internal mention of one
>
>Tom, Win98 has a built-in logo; if you want your own to load you must name
>it LOGO.SYS & place it in the ROOT directory of C:!  (Win95 is the same)
>
>> You are absolutely correct, saying that NOBODY programs like you.  Most
>> appear to have come to GFA from "C", PASCAL, or something like that.
>
>Damn, I thought most of us came from ATARI <cheers>; GFA Basic was written
>for it first!  <g>
>
>> I DO NOT STEAL FROM ANYBODY!!!!!
>
>None of us do, Tom but we recognize his paranoia.
>
>>>>>>unsubscribe<<<<<
>
>I guess that's one way of getting in the last word; send a message after!!!
>
>> But Tom know this, it's people like you who take
>> ideas and stuff from people like me that drive
>> them completely insane and over the edge cause
>> their creativity and coding is ripp-p-ped
>> to high Heaven.
>
>I'm sorry Dale but I, at least, do not need this; David is one of the main
>reasons I have kept my mouth shut for so long.
>
>I apologize to everyone on this list BUT I needed a chance to blow off,
>also!!!
>
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
To all GFA programmers.

Any GFA programmer can be listed on the GFA programmers page. All are
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Need:

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List Member afonsogustavo@abordo.com.br wrote:
Hi,
About dongles and other software protection schemes have that in mind:
You can deceive some people during some time,  but you cannot deceive everybody
the whole time.
[]s
Gustavo

Peuapeu@aol.com wrote:

> List Member Peuapeu@aol.com wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Has anyone used dongles to protect their software?  I have a situation where
> a number of people in other countries want to purchase and even distribute my
> program but they are advising me that I MUST have an effective protection
> system.  For example, one person told me that if they sell one copy to a
> local school and come back a month later, it is not unusual to see the
> program on a dozen machines.
>
> James Schumacher
> peuapeu@aol.com
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List Member DL8FD@t-online.de (Hans Ficker) wrote:
Hallo  GFA-User
ich versuche verzweifelt aus einer DLL Daten zu lesen.
immer kommt die Anzeige DLL Parameterfehler
Ich suche einen User, der sich mit DLL's auskennt und mir
ein wenig helfen kann
=DCber eine Antwort w=FCrde ich mich sehr freuen.
(Ich schreibe dies in deutsch, mein englisch ist nicht sehr gut)
besten Dank im vorraus=20
Hans=20
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List Member "Eberhard Funck" <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de> wrote:

Hallo GFA-basic users,

I have answerd this question with a demo
directly to Hans in German language.

Greetings

Eberhard


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Hall Eberhard
anbei die Beschreibung der DLL
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List Member "Mike Fooks" <Mick.Fooks@btinternet.com> wrote:
Hi folks,
Rummaging around (as I tend to do these days) I note that contrary to what
the GFA BASIC on-screen help says and also the printed manual, commas may
NOT be imbedded within strings when used with the DATA statement.
Can anyone else confirm this?

cheers

Mike

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its...its..'been here, done it, got the certificate'

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

Mike
Commas & doublequotes *can* be handled properly by enclosing them in
doublequotes.
You must read the data as a string.
---------------------------- cut here -------------------
DIM a$(20)
WHILE _DATA
  READ a$(r%)
  r% ++
WEND
Fstyle& = CF_SCREENFONTS | RGBCOLOR_ECX | CF_EFFECTS
DLG FONT 1,0,Fstyle&,_ECX,0,0,"Style"
RGBCOLOR _ECX
FONT TO fnt&
SETFONT fnt&
PRINT "The font style is ";CHAR{_EBX}
FOR i& = 0 TO r%
  TEXT 0,(_DX * i&) / 6, a$(i&)
NEXT i&
FREEFONT fnt&
ORG& = SYSTEM_FONT
SETFONT ORG&
FREEFONT fnt&

DO
UNTIL MOUSEK & 2
CLOSEW #1
DATA "abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz"
DATA "ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ"
DATA "`1234567890-="
DATA ",./ \|;'~!@#$%^&*()_+<>?:"[]}}"
-------------------------- cut here ---------------------

At 10:15 PM 27/05/00 +0100, you wrote:
>List Member "Mike Fooks" <Mick.Fooks@btinternet.com> wrote:
>Hi folks,
>Rummaging around (as I tend to do these days) I note that contrary to what
>the GFA BASIC on-screen help says and also the printed manual, commas may
>NOT be imbedded within strings when used with the DATA statement.
>Can anyone else confirm this?
>
>cheers
>
>Mike
>
>I feel a force-field enveloping me...
>its...its..'been here, done it, got the certificate'
>
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
005.bmp is any 640x480 *.bmp
The problem: I can't get away from the captionbar, altho the window has none.
I'm trying to learn use of CreateCompatibleBitmap().
Help would be appreciated.  The only working sample is too complex for me to
"see" what's different.
<G>
TomR.

--------------------------- cut here ----------------------
'CreateCompatibleBitmap() from Dale's helpfile
OPENW #1,0,0,0,0,0
mdc& = MEMDC(_DC(1))
hbm& = CreateCompatibleBitmap(_DC(1),640,480)
hbo& = SelectObject(mdc&,hbm&)
~BitBlt(mdc&,0,0,640,480,0,0,0,WHITENESS)
SETDC mdc&
hBmp& = LOADBMP("005.bmp")
PUT 0,0,hBmp&
~SelectObject(mdc&,hbo&)
FREEDC mdc&
CLOSEW #1
FULLW #2
SETDC _DC(1)
mac& = -641

DO
  mac& ++
  PUT mac&,0,hbm&
LOOP UNTIL MOUSEK & 2 OR mac& = 641
FREEBMP hbm&
CLOSEW #2

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Ok... so I didn't notice a 2nd window being opened.  I'm old & I'm feeble!
<G>
TomR.
------------------------- cur here ---------------------------------
'CreateCompatibleBitmap() from Dale's helpfile
/* modified by TomR 27 May 2000 to demo some effects
/* combo.lst - 8 slide-thru effects, fullscreen
/* use any 640x480 *.bmp image, change: hBmp& = LOADBMP("005.bmp")
/* Timing is NOT considered in this demo.

cx& = GETDEVCAPS(HORZRES)
cy& = GETDEVCAPS(VERTRES)
OPENW #1,0,0,0,0,0
hBmp& = LOADBMP("005.bmp")
mdc& = MEMDC(_DC(1))
hbm& = CreateCompatibleBitmap(_DC(1),cx&,cy&)
hbo& = SelectObject(mdc&,hbm&)
~BitBlt(mdc&,0,0,cx&,cy&,0,0,0,WHITENESS)
SETDC mdc&
PUT 0,0,hBmp&
~SelectObject(mdc&,hbo&)
FREEDC mdc&
CLOSEW #1
OPENW #2,0,0,cx& + 1,cy& + 1,0
CLS 0
PUT 0,0,hBmp&
PAUSE 15
SETDC _DC(1)
/* left2right
CLS 0
mac& = -(cx& + 1)
DO
  mac& ++
  PUT mac&,0,hbm&
LOOP UNTIL MOUSEK & 2 OR mac& = cx&
/* topleft2bottomright
mac& = -(cx& + 1)
mic& = -(cy& + 1)
DO
  mac& ++
  mic& ++
  PUT mac&,mic&,hbm&
LOOP UNTIL MOUSEK & 2 OR mac& = cx& + 1 OR mic& = cy& + 1
/* top2bottom
mac& = 0
mic& = -cy&
DO
  mic& ++
  PUT mac&,mic&,hbm&
LOOP UNTIL MOUSEK & 2 OR mic& = cy& + 1
/* topright2bottomleft
mac& = cx& + 1
mic& = -(cy& + 1)
DO
  mac& --
  mic& ++
  PUT mac&,mic&,hbm&
LOOP UNTIL MOUSEK & 2 OR mac& = -(cx& + 1) OR mic& = cy& + 1
/* right2left
mac& = cx&
DO
  mac& --
  PUT mac&,0,hbm&
LOOP UNTIL MOUSEK & 2 OR mac& = -(cx& + 1)
/* bottomright2topleft
mac& = cx& + 1
mic& = cy& + 1
DO
  mac& --
  mic& --
  PUT mac&,mic&,hbm&
LOOP UNTIL MOUSEK & 2 OR mac& = -(cx& + 1) OR mic& = -(cy& + 1)
/* bottom2top
mac& = 0
mic& = cy& + 1
DO
  mic& --
  PUT mac&,mic&,hbm&
LOOP UNTIL MOUSEK & 2 OR mic& = -(cy& + 1)
/* bottomleft2topright
mac& = -(cx& / 2)
mic& = cy& + 1
DO
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  mic& --
  PUT mac&,mic&,hbm&
LOOP UNTIL MOUSEK & 2 OR mac& = cx& + 1 OR mic& = -(cy& + 1)
PUT 0,0,hBmp&
PAUSE 15

FREEBMP hbm&
FREEBMP hBmp&
CLOSEW #2

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List Member "Mike Fooks" <Mick.Fooks@btinternet.com> wrote:
Hi Tom, your reply caused some head scratching, but ur 100% correct, however
a trap for the unwary that I fell into
this works:

FOR i = 1 TO 3
  READ a&,b&,a$
  ? a&,b&,a$
NEXT i
'
DATA 205,400,"hello"
DATA 206,500,"eg 5, 7 selects those for output"
DATA 207,500,"End"

but this screws up:

FOR i = 1 TO 3
  READ a&,b&,a$
  ? a&,b&,a$
NEXT i
'
DATA 205,400,"hello"
DATA 206,500, "eg 5, 7 selects those for output"
DATA 207,500,"End"

a weee space between the comma and the quote!
Attention to detail Mr Fooks!!!!!! <GGG>

----- Original Message -----
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Subject: Re: [gfabasic] DATA statement


> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>
> Mike
> Commas & doublequotes *can* be handled properly by enclosing them in
> doublequotes.
> You must read the data as a string.
> ---------------------------- cut here -------------------
snip...

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Mike
I've scratched more than my head over *that* <G>.  It's funny 'cause
an awful lot of things in GFA-W(16) don't care *how many* spaces
follow a comma!  GLAD to have been of some help.  That font select
works too, if you ever need a shortie.
<G>
TomR.


At 11:05 AM 28/05/00 +0100, you wrote:
>List Member "Mike Fooks" <Mick.Fooks@btinternet.com> wrote:
>Hi Tom, your reply caused some head scratching, but ur 100% correct, however
>a trap for the unwary that I fell into
>this works:
>
>FOR i = 1 TO 3
>  READ a&,b&,a$
>  ? a&,b&,a$
>NEXT i
>'
>DATA 205,400,"hello"
>DATA 206,500,"eg 5, 7 selects those for output"
>DATA 207,500,"End"
>
>but this screws up:
>
>FOR i = 1 TO 3
>  READ a&,b&,a$
>  ? a&,b&,a$
>NEXT i
>'
>DATA 205,400,"hello"
>DATA 206,500, "eg 5, 7 selects those for output"
>DATA 207,500,"End"
>
>a weee space between the comma and the quote!
>Attention to detail Mr Fooks!!!!!! <GGG>
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Hi to all

I downloaded L3AUDIO.DLL to play MP3 files, but I don't know haw many =
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Go to Roland Walter's website & look for "multimedia".  He has a codec &
an example for calling it.  The file will be large.
<G>
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Surely to hell *somebody* has run into this before...

How is /ALIGNMENT:nnn passed to the optlink linker?  wgen.exe will NOT
allow such a statement in the source & there is NO way shown to feed it
to the compiler, itself.

/ALIGNMENT:16 is supposedly pre-set.  This yields a possible 1Meg executable.  
My *.res is greater than 1Meg, so I tried /ALIGNMENT:32, but it pukes! All
over the place!  Either the compiler or the linker don't want to see that
statement in the source!

I tried poking the *.res into a naked *.exe w/ Borland, but when run, the
*.exe dies, saying there's no JPEG.  There are 47 of them in the *.res.

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
This doesn't go into the *.ini or the compiler... WHERE DOES IT GO????





At 09:02 PM 30/05/00 +0000, you wrote:
>List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>Surely to hell *somebody* has run into this before...
>
>How is /ALIGNMENT:nnn passed to the optlink linker?  wgen.exe will NOT
>allow such a statement in the source & there is NO way shown to feed it
>to the compiler, itself.
>
>/ALIGNMENT:16 is supposedly pre-set.  This yields a possible 1Meg executable.  
>My *.res is greater than 1Meg, so I tried /ALIGNMENT:32, but it pukes! All
>over the place!  Either the compiler or the linker don't want to see that
>statement in the source!
>
>I tried poking the *.res into a naked *.exe w/ Borland, but when run, the
>*.exe dies, saying there's no JPEG.  There are 47 of them in the *.res.
>
>TomR.
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> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> This doesn't go into the *.ini or the compiler... WHERE DOES IT GO????
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> >How is /ALIGNMENT:nnn passed to the optlink linker? 

Possibly a commandline argument? Just a thought...

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List Member Pat Bullman <pbullman@norex.com.au> wrote:
Tom,

>> >How is /ALIGNMENT:nnn passed to the optlink linker? 
>
>Possibly a commandline argument? Just a thought...
>
>-- 
>Doyle Whisenant

I agree with Doyle.  /ALIGNMENT:nnn is meant to be used when doing a DOS
command line call to the linker.  The following information assumes you
know something of DOS batch commands.  If not, I'll try to explain them in
detail for you.

The linker is a DOS program and is called by the GFA compile program.  This
is done by using the golink.bat DOS Batch file and storing values in the
response file ~gfa.lnk.  The actual linker is called gfalnk.exe and you can
call it directly from DOS.

The file Golink.bat contains the following command "gfalnk %1 %2
@~gfa.lnk".  The variables %1, %2 would hold, I think (I really don't
know), the *.obj file to be compiled and *.exe file to be created.
~Gfa.lnk contains the rest of the responses required by the linker.

I compiled a program I'm working on and ~gfa.lnk contained the following :

	/REO /A:16 /nol /packc:38000 /f /DEL /RC:"C:\GfaWin\Controls\FileView.res"
	~GFA.obj ,c:\gfawin\controls\fileview.exe,nul,
	 glib.lib,
	~GFA.DEF

You should be able to enter your /ALINGMENT command after /nol or
/packcode:3800.  You may need to read up on this a little more.


Pat


Tom, just tried calling the linker from DOS.  It worked with the following
syntax:

	gfalnk @~gfa.lnk

So maybe you should edit the ~gfa.lnk (it's a text file) to include your
additional statement and see if it works.


Pat

At 21:11 30/05/00 -0500, you wrote:
>List Member Doyle Whisenant <mechanic@sonet.net> wrote:
>Tom Record wrote:
>> 
>> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> This doesn't go into the *.ini or the compiler... WHERE DOES IT GO????
>> 
>mechanic@sonet.net
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Pat
You & Doyle are hotter on this than I am!  It's been a while since I looked 
into the files it makes besides the executable.  I don't have anything I know 
of that shows all of this, so I guess I'd better put the compiler manual back 
together & read some more!  I'm going nuts!

Thanks much!
<G>
TomR.



At 01:25 PM 31/05/00 +1000, you wrote:
>List Member Pat Bullman <pbullman@norex.com.au> wrote:
>Tom,
>
>>> >How is /ALIGNMENT:nnn passed to the optlink linker? 
>>
>>Possibly a commandline argument? Just a thought...
>>
>>-- 
>>Doyle Whisenant
>
>I agree with Doyle.  /ALIGNMENT:nnn is meant to be used when doing a DOS
>command line call to the linker.  The following information assumes you
>know something of DOS batch commands.  If not, I'll try to explain them in
>detail for you.
>
>The linker is a DOS program and is called by the GFA compile program.  This
>is done by using the golink.bat DOS Batch file and storing values in the
>response file ~gfa.lnk.  The actual linker is called gfalnk.exe and you can
>call it directly from DOS.
>
>The file Golink.bat contains the following command "gfalnk %1 %2
>@~gfa.lnk".  The variables %1, %2 would hold, I think (I really don't
>know), the *.obj file to be compiled and *.exe file to be created.
>~Gfa.lnk contains the rest of the responses required by the linker.
>
>I compiled a program I'm working on and ~gfa.lnk contained the following :
>
>	/REO /A:16 /nol /packc:38000 /f /DEL /RC:"C:\GfaWin\Controls\FileView.res"
>	~GFA.obj ,c:\gfawin\controls\fileview.exe,nul,
>	 glib.lib,
>	~GFA.DEF
>
>You should be able to enter your /ALINGMENT command after /nol or
>/packcode:3800.  You may need to read up on this a little more.
>
>
>Pat
>
>
>Tom, just tried calling the linker from DOS.  It worked with the following
>syntax:
>
>	gfalnk @~gfa.lnk
>
>So maybe you should edit the ~gfa.lnk (it's a text file) to include your
>additional statement and see if it works.
>
>
>Pat
>
>At 21:11 30/05/00 -0500, you wrote:
>>List Member Doyle Whisenant <mechanic@sonet.net> wrote:
>>Tom Record wrote:
>>> 
>>> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>>> This doesn't go into the *.ini or the compiler... WHERE DOES IT GO????
>>> 
>>mechanic@sonet.net
>>http://mechanic.webjump.com
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
~gfa.lnk:

/REO /A:512 /nol /packc:38000 /f /DEL /RC:KAREN.RES
~GFA.obj ,e:\gfawin\karen1.exe,nul,
MINIJPEG.LIB glib.lib,
~GFA.DEF

Pat & Doyle were right!
I'd never tried compiling this way.
Thanks gazillions, guys!!!  I'm on my way!
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Dale - use or lose

Mebbeso am the last to know, but here's a means of writing your own *.lnk
file for the DOS linker.  Got everything OK but getting it to actually
do the compile.
----------------------- cut here --------------------------
/* lnk_file.lst by TomR.  Based on DataDem1.lst by SCravens

DIM a$(5),buffer$(5)
dh&  = _DRIVE
ph$ = DIR$(0)
home$ = CHR$(dh&) + ":" + ph$
IF RIGHT$(home$,1) <> "\" THEN
  home$ = home$ + "\"
ENDIF

CreateDialog()
~SetFocus(DLGITEM(0, 100))

ON MENU MESSAGE GOSUB EvalMessage()

DO
  SLEEP
LOOP

PROCEDURE CreateDialog()
  l1$ = "/REO /A:"
  l1a$ = " /nol /packc:38000 /f /DEL /RC:"
  l2$ = "~GFA.obj ," /*c:\windows\tk0.scr
  l2a$ = ",nul,"
  l3$ = " E:\GFAWIN\glib.lib,"
  l4$ = "~GFA.DEF"
  l5$ = "Default '16' allows a 1M executable.  "
  l5$ = l5$ + "    Name of *your* *.res"
  l6$ = "Path to where you want it to be written w/ filename."
  l7$ = "Clear if you aren't using a $LNKed library."
  align$ = "16"    /* must be a power of two #... 16, 32, 256, 512*  *preferred!
  res$ = "~GFA.RES"
  path$ = "c:\windows\tricky00.scr"
  library$ = "MINIJPEG.LIB"

  DIALOG #0,95,95,448,260,"*.LNK /ALIGN File for DOS Linker",$10000000
    CONTROL align$,100,"edit",$50810000,75,8,30,20
    CONTROL res$,101,"edit",$50810000,307,8,100,20
    CONTROL l1$,106,"static",$5000000b,20,10,385,25
    CONTROL l1a$,106,"static",$5000000b,110,10,385,25
    CONTROL l5$,106,"static",$5000000b,20,30,400,25
    CONTROL path$,102,"edit",$50810000,85,58,230,20
    CONTROL l6$,106,"static",$5000000b,85,80,400,25
    CONTROL l2$,108,"static",$5000000b,20,60,230,25
    CONTROL l2a$,108,"static",$5000000b,320,60,50,25
    CONTROL library$,103,"edit",$50810000,20,108,100,20
    CONTROL l7$,106,"static",$5000000b,20,130,400,25
    CONTROL l3$,109,"static",$5000000b,125,110,390,25
    CONTROL l4$,111,"static",$5000000b,20,150,85,25
    CONTROL "C&lear",112,"button",$50010000,20,190,64,32
    CONTROL "&Cancel",113,"button",$50010000,86,190,64,32
    CONTROL "&Write it",114,"button",$50010000,152,190,64,32
    /*    CONTROL "Com&pile",115,"button",$50010000,218,190,64,32
    CONTROL "E&xit",116,"button",$50010000,284,190,64,32
  ENDDIALOG
  SHOWDIALOG #0
RETURN


PROCEDURE EvalMessage()
  SWITCH MENU(6)
  CASE 112  //  Clear entries
    ClearRecord()
  CASE 113   /* cancel
    CLOSEDIALOG #0
    END
  CASE 114  //  write it
    AddRecord()
  CASE 115   /* supposed to compile the damned thing but doesn't!
    SHELL "E:\GFAWIN\gfalnk.exe @flip1$"
    SHELL ""
  CASE 116   /* exit
    CLOSEDIALOG #0
    END
  ENDSWITCH
RETURN

PROCEDURE ClearRecord()
  //  Clears the fields in the dialog box.

  FOR i& = 0 TO 3
    ~SetWindowText(DLGITEM(0, 100 + i&),"")
  NEXT i&
  PEEKEVENT
RETURN

PROCEDURE AddRecord()
  LOCAL a$
  FOR i& = 0 TO 3
    buffer$(i&) = SPACE$(25)
    ~GetWindowText(DLGITEM(0, 100 + i&), V:buffer$(i&), LEN(buffer$(i&)))
    a$(i&) = UPPER$(CHAR{V:buffer$(i&)})
  NEXT i&
  flip$ = LEFT$(a$(1),LEN(a$(1)) - 3)
  flip1$ = flip$ + "lnk"
  OPEN "o",#1, flip1$
  PRINT #1,l1$;a$(0);l1a$;a$(1)
  PRINT #1,l2$;a$(2);l2a$
  PRINT #1,a$(3);l3$
  PRINT #1,l4$
  CLOSE #1
  PEEKEVENT
RETURN

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
I give up on this !@##%$#@!! crap!  To compile the damned thing, you must
put everything into the same dir w/ gfawin37.exe et.al., & run the *.bat
file that has been written to use a new *.lnk file.  Even then, ~gfa.lnk
is modified to reflect the new alignment & paths.

You can NOT make the alignment change in ~gfa.lnk & then compile via the
editor & wgen.exe!  IT WRITES OVER THE ~GFA.LNK YOU FIXED!!!  It returns 
all values back to OEM default!  BEFORE reading it!  So... it pukes all
over the room!

Going the route at the top, it actually compiles & the issue runs.  BUT...
ANY CLS or other mode of changing the flippin background is GONE - out the
window!  It doesn't matter if you put 2 dozen CLS 0s or getnearest()s or
a PBOX, or any other means of clearing the screen.  Let me make a change in
this... on small images, it clears to some medium gray between images (NOT
the color chosen, by any means!), but on large images that are screen height
or screen width, or anything near either, it just stacks images on top of
images!  There's absolutely NO clearing of the screen between them!  NOT good!

I know... NOBODY really gives a damn about all of this - I just needed to spit
it out because I'm about to take a big hammer to the computer & the dog & cat
don't care at all as long as I don't throw anything at them.

What I posted works.  What good anybody gets out of it... well, good luck!
TomR.

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
ERROR 5

SINGLE{} overflow

I'm not using SINGLE{} !

Reading number of pix from stringtable of *.res file.
Crash is upon going for #15... There are 16 pix.  All
are in the *.res.  Am set up so that it starts w/ #1,
then progresses thru #16.  If greater than 16, then #1.

Appl is compiled... using minijpeg.lib & *.res.

What other excuse exists for ERROR 5?
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Hi Tom,
Could it be 0 to 15  instead of 1 to 16?
Just wondering.
dale

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> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> ERROR 5
>
> SINGLE{} overflow
>
> I'm not using SINGLE{} !
>
> Reading number of pix from stringtable of *.res file.
> Crash is upon going for #15... There are 16 pix.  All
> are in the *.res.  Am set up so that it starts w/ #1,
> then progresses thru #16.  If greater than 16, then #1.
>
> Appl is compiled... using minijpeg.lib & *.res.
>
> What other excuse exists for ERROR 5?
> TomR.
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Roland's code, "adapted":
hResSFind& = FindResource(_INSTANCE,1,"MID") 'Find the resource
hResS& = LoadResource(_INSTANCE,hResSFind&)  'Load it
szResS% = SizeofResource(_INSTANCE,hResSFind&)  'Get the size
ptrResS% = LockResource(hResS&) 'Lock the memory block to get the address
PlayMusic STR$(hResS&)

Bev's code, "adapted":
poshndl& = FindResource(hInst&,1,"MID")
sndhndl& = LoadResource(hInst&,poshndl&)
sndaddress% = LockResource(sndhndl&)
PlayMusic sndaddress%

The *.mid exists in the $LNKed *.res, but the compile fails each time on
the line PlayMusic ladida.  Wants a string I don't know how to come up with.

HELP!  HELP!  HELP!  HELP!  HELP!  HELP!  HELP!  HELP!   PLEASE, I beg you.
TomR.

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> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

> PlayMusic sndaddress%

Where does PlayMusic come from? Did I miss something?

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Hi to All
Here Peter

Maybe whos knows how I can load sample data (WAVE file) to memory and =
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Dale... thanks.  Not the situation, tho.

PROCEDURE Chg_Pix
  INC Picture&
  IF Picture& > 16 THEN
    PAUSE 30
    CLS GETNEAREST(65,65,65) /* hesitate after a tiny image... #1 is my logo
    Picture& = 1
  ENDIF
  @LoadJpegRes(Picture&)
RETURN

Happens w/ NumPix& or 16.  NumPix& is read from a stringtable in the *.res.
It starts off displaying #1, then comes to *this* routine to cycle the images.
There is NOTHING else conserned w/ the number of images.

Each routine I come up with seems to have ONE glitch that kills it.  Another
won't
clear the screen between large images using CLS, PBOX or STRETCHing a
screenshot.
This one clears the screen.  One wracking my brain at the moment won't play
a *.mid
because I can't properly load it from the *.res.  Works perfectly if I load the
file from outside.  I don't find a *.mid used in a *.res at all.

Another killer is getting TIMER to work right for me.  It's been killing
everything
I've put it in.  PAUSE is supposed to be independent of the system clock, but it
sure as hell isn't!  What moves slowly across *my* 100MHz screen just smears
like
lightning on a 350MHz computer!

Gonna be certifiably nuts by the time I get all of these ideas working!
<G>
TomR.


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>Hi Tom,
>Could it be 0 to 15  instead of 1 to 16?
>Just wondering.
>dale
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>> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> ERROR 5
>>
>> SINGLE{} overflow
>>
>> I'm not using SINGLE{} !
>>
>> Reading number of pix from stringtable of *.res file.
>> Crash is upon going for #15... There are 16 pix.  All
>> are in the *.res.  Am set up so that it starts w/ #1,
>> then progresses thru #16.  If greater than 16, then #1.
>>
>> Appl is compiled... using minijpeg.lib & *.res.
>>
>> What other excuse exists for ERROR 5?
>> TomR.
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
/* rc-gen25.lst  multi-object *.rc generator
/* 20 Feb 2000, TomR.  May it serve you well.
/* ** 2 May 2000 Added verinfo at the bottom.
/* Borland Resource WorkShop will compile this *.rc to *.res.
/* GFA-W(16) will $LNK the *.res into an executable
/* ** Will add ALL files of the selected format in the selected dir.
/* 9 May 2000, corrected versinfo & file selection filter
/* 18 May 2000, added stringtables (see: PROCEDURE StrPut).
/* A demo of a stringtable entry - from Eberhard
/* STRINGTABLE
/* BEGIN
/* =A433072, "Call another task."
/* END
/* 24 May 2000 03:15:32 AM - Completed the stringtable routine!!
/* As this stands, it will add ALL images of the selected format
/*   that are in the selected dir!  Be acutely aware of this!!!
/* Another worry: GFA-W(16) doesn't like executables of greater
/*  size than 1 Meg!  It wants an /ALIGNMENT increase!!!!!!!
/* Bev, Eberhard, John & Roland contributed greatly - THANKS!!
/* 1 Jun 2000 1M /Align resolved, see lnk_file.lst.
/* 1 Jun 2000 corrected some punctuation in files made.  Now makes
/* only one check-file besides the *.rc file.

DIM bmp$(500),ver$(30),SP$(8)
ON BREAK GOSUB ende

cx& =3D GETDEVCAPS(HORZRES)
cy& =3D GETDEVCAPS(VERTRES)
dh&  =3D _DRIVE
ph$ =3D DIR$(0)
home$ =3D CHR$(dh&) + ":" + ph$
IF RIGHT$(home$,1) <> "\" THEN
  home$ =3D home$ + "\"
ENDIF

TYPE dta:
- CHAR *21 fs_donttouch$
- BYTE  fs_attr
- CARD  fs_time
- CARD  fs_date
- LONG  fs_size
- CHAR *14 fs_name$
ENDTYPE

TITLEW #1, "TomR.'s multiple image *.rc generator w/ stringtables &=
 versinfo."
OPENW #1,0,0,cx&,cy&,16
FILESELECT #"Select one file of type desired.","*.*","",path$
IF path$ =3D ""
  @ende
ELSE
  ob1$ =3D RIGHT$(path$,3)
  IF ob1$ =3D "b_p" OR ob1$ =3D "B_P" THEN ob2$ =3D " BIT_MAP"
  IF ob1$ =3D "dib" OR ob1$ =3D "DIB" THEN ob2$ =3D " BIT_MAP"
  IF ob1$ =3D "bmp" OR ob1$ =3D "BMP" THEN ob2$ =3D " BITMAP"
  IF ob1$ =3D "gif" OR ob1$ =3D "GIF" THEN ob2$ =3D " GIF"
  IF ob1$ =3D "jpg" OR ob1$ =3D "JPG" THEN ob2$ =3D " JPEG"
  IF ob1$ =3D "mid" OR ob1$ =3D "MID" THEN ob2$ =3D " MID"
  IF ob1$ =3D "wav" OR ob1$ =3D "WAV" THEN ob2$ =3D " WAVE"
ENDIF
pat& =3D RINSTR(path$,"\")
path0$ =3D LEFT$(path$,pat&)
path$ =3D path0$ + "*."
@Get_Subject
SETMOUSE cx& / 2,cy& / 2
DEFMOUSE 2 /* hourglass

OPEN "o",#2,name1$
OPEN "o",#3,nam1$ + ".dat"
dta% =3D FGETDTA()
e% =3D FSFIRST(path$ + ob1$,%10001) /* path to the files
WHILE e% =3D> 0
  q$ =3D {dta%}.fs_name$
  bmp$(q&) =3D q$
  q& ++
  e% =3D FSNEXT()
WEND
tattle$ =3D "There are " + STR$((q& * 2) + 3) + " objects going into " +=
 name1$
tattle$ =3D tattle$ + " ... " + STR$(q&) + " images, " + STR$(q& + 2) + "
stringtables, "
tattle$ =3D tattle$ + "& versinfo entry."
TEXT 10,10,tattle$
PRINT #3,tattle$
PRINT #3,"image -> ID in ";name1$
QSORT bmp$(),q&
FOR i& =3D 0 TO q&
  EXIT IF bmp$(i&) =3D ""
  n$ =3D path0$ + bmp$(i&)
  TEXT 10,30,SPACE$(85) /* erase previous entry
  TEXT 10,30,n$
  PRINT #3,bmp$(i&);" -> ";STR$(i& + 1)
  @Scrive
  EXIT IF i& =3D> q&
  PRINT #2,""
  PRINT #2,""
NEXT i&
@JpegInfo
StId$ =3D "1001"  /* Your contact adrs
St$ =3D "TomR.Soft@worldnet.att.net"
@StrPut
s1001$ =3D StId$ + "  " + St$
PRINT #3,s1001$
StId$ =3D "1002"  /* # of images in this *.rc/*.res
St$ =3D STR$(q&)
@StrPut
s1002$ =3D StId$ + "  " + St$
PRINT #3,s1002$
CLOSE #3
@VerPut
@ende

PROCEDURE ende
  CHDRIVE dh&
  CHDIR ph$
  CLOSE
  CLOSEW #1
  CLOSE
  DEFMOUSE 0 /* normal arrow
  END
RETURN

PROCEDURE Scrive
  /*  1-jpg-rc.lst, a JPEG *.rc file generator.  19 Feb 2000, TomR.
  /*  Must be compiled into a *.res by a resource compiler.
  /*  My contribution to Roland's jpeg.lib project.  Use freely/give credit.
  /*  For now, append as many as desired into a single file,
  /*  separated by 2 empty lines, numbering images consecutively.
  /*  In effect, is *.jpg image in hex, 16 bytes wide.
  /*  early early 20 Feb 2000, added *.gif, *.bmp, *.wav
  /*  <Ctrl>+<Break> interrupts & closes (if you're fast enough!).


  OPEN "i",#1,n$
  PRINT #2,STR$(i& + 1);ob2$;" LOADONCALL MOVEABLE" /* this # is the image=
 ID.
  '  PRINT #2,STR$(i& + 1);ob2$ /* this # is the image ID.
  PRINT #2,"BEGIN"
  DO UNTIL EOF( #1)
    maxi:
    PRINT #2,"'";
    FOR chuk& =3D 1 TO 15
      a& =3D INP(#1)
      a$ =3D HEX$(a&)
      IF LEN(a$) < 2 THEN a$ =3D "0" + a$
      PRINT #2,a$;CHR$(32);
    NEXT chuk&
    a& =3D INP(#1)
    a$ =3D HEX$(a&)
    IF LEN(a$) < 2 THEN a$ =3D "0" + a$
    PRINT #2,a$;"'"
    qtf% =3D LOF( #1) - LOC( #1)
    IF qtf% > 16 THEN GOTO maxi
    PRINT #2,"'";
    FOR chuk& =3D 1 TO qtf% - 1
      a& =3D INP(#1)
      a$ =3D HEX$(a&)
      IF LEN(a$) < 2 THEN a$ =3D "0" + a$
      PRINT #2,a$;CHR$(32);
    NEXT chuk&
    PRINT #2,a$;"'"
    PRINT #2,"END"
    GOTO zilo
  LOOP
  zilo:
  CLOSE #1
RETURN

/* data input dialog
PROCEDURE Get_Subject
  DLGBASE UNIT
  DIALOG #12,50,50,92,80,"  Input up to 8 chars",$10000000
    CONTROL "Please enter a name",100,"STATIC",$10000000,10,5,90,10
    CONTROL "  for your *.rc file...",102,"STATIC",$10000000,10,15,90,10
    CONTROL "   .rc will be added",102,"STATIC",$10000000,10,25,90,10
    CONTROL "12345678",103,"edit",$50800000,32,35,40,8
    CONTROL "&OK",104,"button",$10000001,10,50,85,10
    SENDMESSAGE DLGITEM(12,103),WM_SETFONT,GetStockObject(OEM_FIXED_FONT),0
    ~SetFocus(DLGITEM(12,103))
    ~SendMessage(DLGITEM(12,103),EM_SETSEL,0,MAKELONG(0,18))
  ENDDIALOG
  SHOWDIALOG #12
  DLG FILL 12,RGB(228,228,228)

  DO
    GETEVENT
    name$ =3D LCASE$(_WIN$(DLGITEM(12,103)))  /* + ".rc"
    nam& =3D LEN(name$)
    IF nam1& > 7 THEN
      nam1$ =3D "_" +  LEFT$(name$,7)
    ELSE
      nam1$ =3D "_" + name$
    ENDIF
    name1$ =3D name$ + ".rc"
    IF MENU(1) =3D 30                    //WM_COMMAND-Message
      e| =3D (MENU(0) =3D 104)             //OK-Button
    ENDIF
  LOOP UNTIL e|
  CLOSEDIALOG #12
RETURN

PROCEDURE StrPut
  /* *This* procedure adds stringtable sections - you need a section
  /*  for each image/stringtable you want to add.

  SP$(1) =3D "STRINGTABLE"
  SP$(2) =3D "BEGIN"
  SP$(3) =3D CHR$(9) + StId$ + ", " + CHR$(34) + St$ + CHR$(34)
  SP$(4) =3D "END"
  SP$(5) =3D ""
  SP$(6) =3D ""
  FOR SP& =3D 1 TO 6  /* # of stringtable lines.
    PRINT #2,SP$(SP&)
  NEXT SP&
  SP& =3D 0
RETURN

PROCEDURE VerPut
  ver$(1) =3D "VS_VERSION_INFO VERSIONINFO"
  ver$(2) =3D "FILEVERSION 1,0,0,0"
  ver$(3) =3D "PRODUCTVERSION 1,0,0,0"
  ver$(4) =3D "FILEFLAGSMASK VS_FF_DEBUG | VS_FF_PRERELEASE"
  ver$(5) =3D "FILEFLAGS VS_FF_PRERELEASE"
  ver$(6) =3D "FILEOS VOS_DOS_WINDOWS16"
  ver$(7) =3D "FILETYPE VFT_APP"
  ver$(8) =3D "BEGIN"
  ver$(9) =3D "BLOCK " + CHR$(34) + "StringFileInfo" + CHR$(34)
  ver$(10) =3D "BEGIN"
  ver$(11) =3D "  BLOCK " + CHR$(34) + "040904E4" + CHR$(34)
  ver$(12) =3D "  BEGIN"
  ver$(13) =3D "   VALUE " + CHR$(34) + "CompanyName" + CHR$(34) + ", " +
CHR$(34) + "TomR.Soft\0" + CHR$(34)
  ver$(14) =3D "   VALUE " + CHR$(34) + "FileDescription" + CHR$(34) + ", "=
 +
CHR$(34) + "Screensaver\0" + CHR$(34)
  ver$(15) =3D "   VALUE " + CHR$(34) + "FileVersion" + CHR$(34) + ", " +
CHR$(34) + "1.00\0" + CHR$(34)
  ver$(16) =3D "   VALUE " + CHR$(34) + "InternalName" + CHR$(34) + ", " +
CHR$(34) + name1$ + "\0" + CHR$(34)
  ver$(17) =3D "   VALUE " + CHR$(34) + "LegalCopyright" + CHR$(34) + ", " +
CHR$(34) + "Copyright TomR.Soft 2000\0" + CHR$(34)
  ver$(18) =3D "   VALUE " + CHR$(34) + "OriginalFilename" + CHR$(34) + ", "=
 +
CHR$(34) + name$ + " Screensaver\0" + CHR$(34)
  ver$(19) =3D "   VALUE " + CHR$(34) + "ProductName" + CHR$(34) + ", " +
CHR$(34) + name$ + " Screensaver\0" + CHR$(34)
  ver$(20) =3D "   VALUE " + CHR$(34) + "ProductVersion" + CHR$(34) + ", " +
CHR$(34) + "1.00.00.00\0" + CHR$(34)
  ver$(21) =3D "  END"
  ver$(22) =3D ""
  ver$(23) =3D " END"
  ver$(24) =3D ""
  ver$(25) =3D " BLOCK " + CHR$(34) + "VarFileInfo" + CHR$(34)
  ver$(26) =3D " BEGIN"
  ver$(27) =3D "  VALUE " + CHR$(34) + "Translation" + CHR$(34) + ", 0x409,=
 1252"
  ver$(28) =3D " END"
  ver$(29) =3D ""
  ver$(30) =3D "END"
  FOR ver& =3D 1 TO 30
    PRINT #2,ver$(ver&)
  NEXT ver&
RETURN

PROCEDURE JpegInfo
  /* First 4 bytes are unknown
  /* Length of APP0 block (2 bytes)
  /* Block ID   (4 bytes - ASCII "JFIF")
  /* Zero byte   (1 byte to terminate the ID string)
  /* Version Major, Minor (2 bytes - 0x01, 0x01)
  /* Units   (1 byte - 0x00 =3D none, 0x01 =3D inch, 0x02 =3D cm)
  /* Xdpu   (2 bytes - dots per unit horizontal)
  /* Ydpu   (2 bytes - dots per unit vertical)
  /* Thumbnail X size  (1 byte)
  /* Thumbnail Y size  (1 byte)
  /*
  '
  '''  OPEN "o",#6,"_strtbl.dat"
  PRINT #3,""
  PRINT #3,"Image, $table ID, width, height in ";name1$
  FOR b& =3D 0 TO q&
    EXIT IF bmp$(b&) =3D ""
    n1$ =3D path0$ + bmp$(b&)
    '    TEXT 10,50,SPACE$(70)
    '    TEXT 10,50,n1$
    StId$ =3D STR$(b& + 1)
    OPEN "i",#5,n1$
    /* jump over the first 4 bytes
    offset& =3D $04
    '
    /* receive the length of this structure
    SEEK #5, offset&
    BGET #5, V:h_offset|, 1
    BGET #5, V:l_offset|,1
    offset& +=3D (l_offset| | h_offset| << 8) + 2
    '
    /* jump over "JFIF" to the Units byte
    SEEK #5, $0D
    '
    /* description see above
    BGET #5, V:nUnit|, 1
    /* receive the Dots per units
    BGET #5, V:h_dpu|, 1
    BGET #5, V:l_dpu|, 1
    Xdpu& =3D (l_dpu| | h_dpu| << 8)
    '
    BGET #5, V:h_dpu|, 1
    BGET #5, V:l_dpu|, 1
    Ydpu& =3D (l_dpu| | h_dpu| << 8)
    '
    /* receive the length of next structure
    SEEK #5, offset&
    BGET #5, V:h_offset|, 1
    BGET #5, V:l_offset|, 1
    offset& +=3D (l_offset| | h_offset| << 8) + 2
    '
    /* jump over the next structures to the structure, you need
    DO
      SEEK #5, offset&
      BGET #5, V:h_offset|, 1
      BGET #5, V:l_offset|, 1
      EXIT IF h_offset| =3D $00 && l_offset| =3D $11
      offset& +=3D (l_offset| | h_offset| << 8) + 2
    LOOP
    '
    SEEK #5, offset& + 3
    BGET #5, V:h_height|, 1
    BGET #5, V:l_height|, 1
    BGET #5, V:h_width|, 1
    BGET #5, V:l_width|, 1
    BGET #5, V:cComp|, 1
    BGET #5, V:bmPlanes|, 1
    '
    CLOSE #5
    '
    St$ =3D STR$((l_width| | h_width| << 8))
    St$ =3D St$ + "," + STR$((l_height| | h_height| << 8))
    @StrPut
    PRINT #3,bmp$(b&) + "," + StId$ + "," + St$
  NEXT b&
RETURN
-------------------------- cut here ----------------------
/*  add-1-rc.lst, an *.rc sound file adder.  1 Jun 2000, TomR.
/*  *.rc must be compiled into a *.res by Borland resource compiler.
/*  This routine adds ONE file of the accepted types to an existing
/*  *.rc.  See rc-gen25.lst

ON BREAK GOSUB ende

cx& =3D GETDEVCAPS(HORZRES)
cy& =3D GETDEVCAPS(VERTRES)
dh&  =3D _DRIVE
ph$ =3D DIR$(0)
home$ =3D CHR$(dh&) + ":" + ph$
IF RIGHT$(home$,1) <> "\" THEN
  home$ =3D home$ + "\"
ENDIF

TYPE dta:
- CHAR *21 fs_donttouch$
- BYTE  fs_attr
- CARD  fs_time
- CARD  fs_date
- LONG  fs_size
- CHAR *14 fs_name$
ENDTYPE

TITLEW #1, "TomR.'s single file *.rc adder"
OPENW #1,0,0,cx&,cy&,16
//

FILESELECT #"Select one file to add.","*.*","",n$
IF n$ =3D ""
  @ende
ELSE
  ob1$ =3D RIGHT$(n$,3)
  IF ob1$ =3D "mid" OR ob1$ =3D "MID" THEN ob2$ =3D " MID"
  IF ob1$ =3D "wav" OR ob1$ =3D "WAV" THEN ob2$ =3D " WAVE"
ENDIF

FILESELECT #"Select the *.rc file to add this file to.","*.*","",n1$
IF n1$ =3D "" THEN @ende

dta% =3D FGETDTA()
e% =3D FSFIRST(n$,%10001)
PRINT STR$({dta%}.fs_size)
'
SETMOUSE cx& / 2,cy& / 2
DEFMOUSE 2 /* hourglass

OPEN "i",#1,n$
PRINT LOF( #1)
OPEN "a",#2,n1$
PRINT #2,"1 ";ob2$;" LOADONCALL MOVEABLE" /* this # is the object ID.
PRINT #2,"BEGIN"
DO UNTIL EOF( #1)
  maxi:
  PRINT #2,"'";
  FOR chuk& =3D 1 TO 15
    a& =3D INP(#1)
    a$ =3D HEX$(a&)
    IF LEN(a$) < 2 THEN a$ =3D "0" + a$
    PRINT #2,a$;CHR$(32);
  NEXT chuk&
  a& =3D INP(#1)
  a$ =3D HEX$(a&)
  IF LEN(a$) < 2 THEN a$ =3D "0" + a$
  PRINT #2,a$;"'"
  qtf% =3D LOF( #1) - LOC( #1)
  IF qtf% > 16 THEN GOTO maxi
  PRINT #2,"'";
  FOR chuk& =3D 1 TO qtf% - 1
    a& =3D INP(#1)
    a$ =3D HEX$(a&)
    IF LEN(a$) < 2 THEN a$ =3D "0" + a$
    PRINT #2,a$;CHR$(32);
  NEXT chuk&
  PRINT #2,a$;"'"
  PRINT #2,"END"
  GOTO zilo
LOOP
zilo:
DEFMOUSE 0 /* normal arrow
@ende

PROCEDURE ende
  CHDRIVE dh&
  CHDIR ph$
  CLOSEW #1
  CLOSE
  DEFMOUSE 0 /* normal arrow
  END
RETURN
------------------------------ cut here ----------------------------------
To set /ALIGNMENT larger... 512 seems best change!

/* lnk_file.lst by TomR.  GUI is based on DataDem1.lst by SCravens
/* DoyleW. & PatB. provided impetus & direction for the *.lnk portion.

DIM a$(5),buffer$(5)
dh&  =3D _DRIVE
ph$ =3D DIR$(0)
home$ =3D CHR$(dh&) + ":" + ph$
IF RIGHT$(home$,1) <> "\" THEN
  home$ =3D home$ + "\"
ENDIF

CreateDialog()
~SetFocus(DLGITEM(0, 100))

ON MENU MESSAGE GOSUB EvalMessage()

DO
  SLEEP
LOOP

PROCEDURE CreateDialog()
  l1$ =3D "/REO /A:"
  l1a$ =3D " /nol /packc:38000 /f /DEL /RC:"
  l2$ =3D "~GFA.obj ," /*c:\windows\tk0.scr
  l2a$ =3D ",nul,"
  l3$ =3D " E:\GFAWIN\glib.lib,"
  l4$ =3D "~GFA.DEF"
  l5$ =3D "Default '16' allows a 1M executable.  "
  l5$ =3D l5$ + "    Name of *your* *.res"
  l6$ =3D "Path to where you want it to be written w/ filename."
  l7$ =3D "Clear if you aren't using a $LNKed library."
  align$ =3D "16"
  res$ =3D "~GFA.RES"
  path$ =3D "c:\windows\tricky00.scr"
  library$ =3D "MINIJPEG.LIB"

  DIALOG #0,95,95,448,260,"*.LNK /ALIGN File for DOS Linker",$10000000
    CONTROL align$,100,"edit",$50810000,75,8,30,20
    CONTROL res$,101,"edit",$50810000,307,8,100,20
    CONTROL l1$,106,"static",$5000000b,20,10,385,25
    CONTROL l1a$,106,"static",$5000000b,110,10,385,25
    CONTROL l5$,106,"static",$5000000b,20,30,400,25
    CONTROL path$,102,"edit",$50810000,85,58,230,20
    CONTROL l6$,106,"static",$5000000b,85,80,400,25
    CONTROL l2$,108,"static",$5000000b,20,60,230,25
    CONTROL l2a$,108,"static",$5000000b,320,60,50,25
    CONTROL library$,103,"edit",$50810000,20,108,100,20
    CONTROL l7$,106,"static",$5000000b,20,130,400,25
    CONTROL l3$,109,"static",$5000000b,125,110,390,25
    CONTROL l4$,111,"static",$5000000b,20,150,85,25
    CONTROL "C&lear",112,"button",$50010000,20,190,64,32
    CONTROL "&Cancel",113,"button",$50010000,86,190,64,32
    CONTROL "&Write it",114,"button",$50010000,152,190,64,32
    /*     CONTROL "Com&pile",115,"button",$50010000,218,190,64,32
    CONTROL "E&xit",116,"button",$50010000,284,190,64,32
  ENDDIALOG
  SHOWDIALOG #0
RETURN


PROCEDURE EvalMessage()
  SWITCH MENU(6)
  CASE 112  //  Clear entries
    ClearRecord()
  CASE 113   /* cancel
    CLOSEDIALOG #0
    END
  CASE 114  //  write it
    AddRecord()
  CASE 115   /* supposed to compile the damned thing but doesn't!
    SHELL "E:\GFAWIN\gfalnk.exe @flip1$"
    SHELL ""
  CASE 116   /* exit
    CLOSEDIALOG #0
    END
  ENDSWITCH
RETURN

PROCEDURE ClearRecord()
  //  Clears the fields in the dialog box.

  FOR i& =3D 0 TO 3
    ~SetWindowText(DLGITEM(0, 100 + i&),"")
  NEXT i&
  PEEKEVENT
RETURN

PROCEDURE AddRecord()
  LOCAL a$
  FOR i& =3D 0 TO 3
    buffer$(i&) =3D SPACE$(25)
    ~GetWindowText(DLGITEM(0, 100 + i&), V:buffer$(i&), LEN(buffer$(i&)))
    a$(i&) =3D UPPER$(CHAR{V:buffer$(i&)})
  NEXT i&
  flip$ =3D LEFT$(a$(1),LEN(a$(1)) - 3)
  flip1$ =3D flip$ + "lnk"
  OPEN "o",#1, flip1$
  PRINT #1,l1$;a$(0);l1a$;a$(1)
  PRINT #1,l2$;a$(2);l2a$
  PRINT #1,a$(3);l3$
  PRINT #1,l4$
  CLOSE #1
  PEEKEVENT
RETURN

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Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 18:10:35 +0100
From: "franz-xaver.schweiger" <franz-xaver.schweiger@debitel.net>

I have written a small Graphic-Music Example.
You can use it for Slideshow or Game-Programming.


Attachment Converted: C:\WORLDNET\DOWNLOAD\Graphic-.zip

Music$ is taken from:
  FILESELECT "","*.MID",f3$
  PlayMusic f3$

PROCEDURE PlayMusic(Music$)
  IF Music| = 1 THEN
    Music| = 0
    MCI "stop music"
    MCI "close music"
  ENDIF
  IF EXIST(Music$) <> 0 AND Music$ <> "" AND Music_Allowed| = 1 THEN
    Music| = 1
    MCI "open " + Music$ + " alias music"
    MCI "play music from 0"
  ENDIF
RETURN
PROCEDURE StopMusic
  IF Music| = 1 AND Music_Allowed| = 1 THEN
    Music| = 0
    MCI "stop music"
    MCI "close music"
  ENDIF
RETURN
PROCEDURE MusicLoop
  IF Music| = 1 AND Music_Allowed| = 1 THEN
    IF MCI$("status music mode") <> "playing" THEN
      MCI "play music from 0"
    ENDIF
  ENDIF
RETURN


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From: David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com>
Subject: [gfabasic] Peace Offering & Acquaintances
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
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Greets Gang:

Yah you probably thought I wouldn't show up again.
Okee I'm here a bit with my tail between my legs.  :)

Tom sent very nice peace offering Anime pix and maybe
I blow all kinds of things out of proportion.

Dale said please don't leave and well..
It's sad to say that the people in here, Dale,
Russell, Mr. Loock, Tom, and Gustavo are about the
only friends I have internet or in real life not
counting Chris my good friend and EXCELLENT watcher
of Anime..

I figured I'd be back here sooner or later and the
later I wait the longer it'd take me to catch up.

- - -

Well I'm working on Update just about done, it's
a mini GFA compiler, takes a regular old GFA
program and makes it single .EXE, that is, does not
require you to manually include the GFARUN10.DLL
program.  This might be useful to some who want
to run a source code the way the interpreter has it
but don't want to haul around GFARUN10.DLL as a
separate file.  And no it doesn't use anything of
commercial compiler so it's nice good code.

Also Dungeon is done nice game to play maybe I'm not
so keen on B&W stuff as I could be.  I miss the
64 million colors so I prolly won't go too far into
this.  Already thinking & planning using 16x16
tile generator for windows text & stuff but 32x32
true 64 million colors for graphic critter & player
tiles.

Try to beat my best score of 108 !

It's a hard fact to face but perhaps I can help.
If I am the only one that writes videogames for GFA,
well, I guess that gives me a class all to myself,
and that's not to be considered undesirable, but a
challenge to myself.

I spent the better part of my absence in here trying
to find a reason to go back to QBasic, and all I see
is what Dad said, "Untapped Resource" for GFABasic.

I also found what I've learned in GFABasic has made
me a MUCH better programmer in QBasic.  That's a good
sign I shouldn't leave it.

Garn if GFA isn't the best programming language
around !  :P

Here is Dungeon in interpreter .EXE mode cause it
messes up my formula scoring and Instance Generator
doesn't work right..  Aaand compiled in UPDATE it
makes it over 100k so that's not good.

This .EXE requires GFARUN10.DLL (which is not
enclosed)
but the game is
[enclosed]

Sincerely,
David W.

- + -
How to listen. (in 3 steps)

1. Notice you are doing most of the talking.

2. Shut mouth. (use hand if necessary)

3. Open seldom used holes in side of head.

- + -

Yah Tom I guess I could apply some of that to my
self as well..  :)

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Welcome back, Squirt!
<G>
TomR.


At 06:40 PM 01/06/00 -0700, you wrote:
>Greets Gang:
>
>Yah you probably thought I wouldn't show up again.
>Okee I'm here a bit with my tail between my legs.  :)
>
>Tom sent very nice peace offering Anime pix and maybe
>I blow all kinds of things out of proportion.
>
>Dale said please don't leave and well..
>It's sad to say that the people in here, Dale,
>Russell, Mr. Loock, Tom, and Gustavo are about the
>only friends I have internet or in real life not
>counting Chris my good friend and EXCELLENT watcher
>of Anime..
>
>I figured I'd be back here sooner or later and the
>later I wait the longer it'd take me to catch up.
>
>- - -
>
>Well I'm working on Update just about done, it's
>a mini GFA compiler, takes a regular old GFA
>program and makes it single .EXE, that is, does not
>require you to manually include the GFARUN10.DLL
>program.  This might be useful to some who want
>to run a source code the way the interpreter has it
>but don't want to haul around GFARUN10.DLL as a
>separate file.  And no it doesn't use anything of
>commercial compiler so it's nice good code.
>
>Also Dungeon is done nice game to play maybe I'm not
>so keen on B&W stuff as I could be.  I miss the
>64 million colors so I prolly won't go too far into
>this.  Already thinking & planning using 16x16
>tile generator for windows text & stuff but 32x32
>true 64 million colors for graphic critter & player
>tiles.
>
>Try to beat my best score of 108 !
>
>It's a hard fact to face but perhaps I can help.
>If I am the only one that writes videogames for GFA,
>well, I guess that gives me a class all to myself,
>and that's not to be considered undesirable, but a
>challenge to myself.
>
>I spent the better part of my absence in here trying
>to find a reason to go back to QBasic, and all I see
>is what Dad said, "Untapped Resource" for GFABasic.
>
>I also found what I've learned in GFABasic has made
>me a MUCH better programmer in QBasic.  That's a good
>sign I shouldn't leave it.
>
>Garn if GFA isn't the best programming language
>around !  :P
>
>Here is Dungeon in interpreter .EXE mode cause it
>messes up my formula scoring and Instance Generator
>doesn't work right..  Aaand compiled in UPDATE it
>makes it over 100k so that's not good.
>
>This .EXE requires GFARUN10.DLL (which is not
>enclosed)
>but the game is
>[enclosed]
>
>Sincerely,
>David W.
>
>- + -
>How to listen. (in 3 steps)
>
>1. Notice you are doing most of the talking.
>
>2. Shut mouth. (use hand if necessary)
>
>3. Open seldom used holes in side of head.
>
>- + -
>
>Yah Tom I guess I could apply some of that to my
>self as well..  :)
>
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:

--- Tom Record
<tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Welcome back, Squirt!
> <G>
> TomR.

Yah well I'll take that as a cheery salutations.  :)

To answer your other letter briefly, nono..
I don't wanna get involved in any money at all
now TOM I means this NO money !  That means no
partnership deals with anybody anything nothing,
nothing postcards are fine tho..

The mini compiler will be Postcardware like
every thing else.  Append needs me writing one
more quick bit and it's all done ready to compile
Dungeon into single .EXE which RUNs the same quality
as interpreter.  That's the main reason I wrote
Append for but it'll work great for any other .GFWs.

Thanks for the compliments on Dungeon tho !
Yah it runs fine on laptop but will be better
with smooth animation graphics and stuff.

Thats the kind of games I like most not really
action but thinking like chess.  Dungeon 2,
"Mucci Bites Back" will feature bigger graphics,
full 64 million color tiles, stairwells, wizards,
and more at player's disposal then just weapons,
armor, and spells.

Save & Load will be reserved for Postcardware tho.

And that's pronounced "Moo-chee, not Moosee or
Mookee!"

And yes this is me warming up to make my first mini
RPG.  I still want to do Tika's Cards tho add some
other stuff.

Not now cause its late at nite or in morning or
some thing but tomorrow I gotta question on doing
timer interrupts, many of them.  Dad's taking a bit
of the bait I wrote quick multiple multitasking
GFA program but I want to see if it can be improved
on.

That's all from here.

Hey !  It's good to be back !  Just don't mention that
"M" word around me.  (Smile!)

Sincerely,
David W.

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How to write a letter. (in 3 steps)

1. Accept cold fact you never receive any letters
   because you never send any.

2. Write your friends or loved ones.
   Say things deep inside you that you would
   never mention out loud but want them to know
   how you care for them.

3. Hand-drop letter in box.  Jiggle.
   (You never know if that letter will get stuck
    in the door!)
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List Member "John Findlay" <John.Findlay@Byte-it.net> wrote:
> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

You said;  >Wants a string I don't know how to come up with.<

> PROCEDURE PlayMusic(Music$)

The default mode of MCI is to load a file from disk, if you want to do it
from memory it gets quite complicated.


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List Member "Malcolm Jack Howard" <machoward@bigpond.com> wrote:
I've been away for a while. What's the position now on GFA32 with English
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
When have I needed anything simple? <G>  I just need to load it from a *.res.
<G>
TomR.


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>You said;  >Wants a string I don't know how to come up with.<
>
>> PROCEDURE PlayMusic(Music$)
>
>The default mode of MCI is to load a file from disk, if you want to do it
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>"Mucci Bites Back" will feature bigger graphics,
>
>And that's pronounced "Moo-chee, not Moosee or
>Mookee!"
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Wanna get particular... in Italian, it's pronounced  "Mook Chee".
Both "c"s get sounded.  "ci" = "chee", "ce" = "cha" (long "a").
"co" = "ko" (long "o".  "ca" = "kaw" (w/o the "w").  "cu" = "coo".
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List Member "John Findlay" <John.Findlay@Byte-it.net> wrote:

> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net>
> When have I needed anything simple? <G>  I just need to load it
> from a *.res.

:) If I were you I'd save it as a temp file and let MCI deal with it. Load
it from the res, know the exact size, (SizeofResource() rarely gives the
exact size), save it to disk. Bob's yer uncle.

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List Member Engelbert van Loock <Engelbert.v@n.loock.com> wrote:
You can only play WAVES from the memory. To play midi files from memory
you have to write your own midi player routine. John's suggestion with
the temp file is the most often used way to play back midi files from a
resource.

To play waves find, load and lock the wave (as Tom did it) and play it
with the mmsystem.dll api
     ~@@sndPlaySound(lpszSoundName%(aSound| + 2),4 | 1)   // SND_MEMORY
| SND_ASYNC

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Englebert
I usually try to go w/ whatever John says - in *some* form.  my problem
this time is: how do I get it out of the *.res in the first place?!  I
know exactly how many bytes it is, but have NO idea how to get it out.
<G>
TomR.


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>resource.
>
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>with the mmsystem.dll api
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Wanna get particular... in Italian, it's pronounced 
> "Mook Chee".
> Both "c"s get sounded.  "ci" = "chee", "ce" = "cha"
> (long "a").
> "co" = "ko" (long "o".  "ca" = "kaw" (w/o the "w"). 
> "cu" = "coo".
> <G>
> TomR.

Hey Tom..  Mucci isn't Italian, he's sorta cross
between a tribble and a sponge mold.

So he's a Trirold if anything, but doubly cuddly !
:)

But Mook Chee sounds good.

Well it's all done and yayayaya !
I guess I didn't need to buy the compiler after all..

:/

Here is nice program mini-compiles any GFA
GFARUN10.DLL .EXE files to single .EXE.

Aaand you betcha Dungeon works great now !

Can find both at:

http://www.geocities.com/dw817/product/append.zip
http://www.geocities.com/dw817/product/dungeon.zip

If you do a "/R" on Dungeon, you'll see that
Append is registered in my name.  :)

Append comes with internal documentation all very
clear layed out in chapters and stuff and it
must be lunchtime here or something cause I been
at this since 9 this morning !

Enjoy !

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Well, seeing as how everyone else is getting some
help may be I could ask a few.  :)

1. Is there a way to disable the BELL when you hit
   the [ALT] key followed by a letter ?

2. Is there a way to determine if a window is
   active ?  That is, not if the mouse pointer leaves
   it but another task moved on top of it and it is
   now selected, or it is not enabled, the top bar
   is grey.  This task is not necessarily a different
   GFA Window but could be the volume window, an
   internet page, anything, and it can act on it.
   I'm happy to say I am using WM_ messages and _mess
   more now that I understand them.

I'm updating my Gredit tremendously and want to
share some interesting findings I've found on how
to maintain displays without WindowLock.  Yah I'm
a stickler to see if it can be done.  :)  So far,
it is and I can lock a window without using up
internal/external DLL memory stuff.

With #2 I'll write Frookie, a nice little doodle
program to show how to lock a window but without
window lock.

I also found a large horde of my images so Dungeon 2
is coming along very smoothly !  I want to write a
music maker program too but maybe not for this
release.

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member "Russell Hayward" <russ@softhome.net> wrote:

Hi David,

> 1. Is there a way to disable the BELL when you hit
>    the [ALT] key followed by a letter ?

It's annoying this one, here's how to get rid of it:

CB WIN(1),WM_MENUCHAR,MenuHandler
...
PROCEDURE MenuHandler(Win&,Mess&,wPar&,lPar%)
  RETVAL MAKELONG(1,0)
RETURN

> 2. Is there a way to determine if a window is
>    active ?  That is, not if the mouse pointer leaves
>    it but another task moved on top of it and it is
>    now selected, or it is not enabled, the top bar
>    is grey.  This task is not necessarily a different
>    GFA Window but could be the volume window, an
>    internet page, anything, and it can act on it.
>    I'm happy to say I am using WM_ messages and _mess
>    more now that I understand them.

Only one top level window can be activated at any time, so to find out if it
is yours you do this:

IF GetActiveWindow()=WIN(1)

To find out when your window is activated or deactivated then process the
WM_ACTIVATE message.

HTH,
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hey Russell !

--- Russell Hayward <russ@softhome.net> wrote:
> List Member "Russell Hayward" <russ@softhome.net>
> wrote:
> 
> Hi David,
> 
> > 1. Is there a way to disable the BELL when you hit
> >    the [ALT] key followed by a letter ?
> 
> It's annoying this one, here's how to get rid of it:
> 
> CB WIN(1),WM_MENUCHAR,MenuHandler
> ....
> PROCEDURE MenuHandler(Win&,Mess&,wPar&,lPar%)
>   RETVAL MAKELONG(1,0)
> RETURN

Yes !  Thanks Russell !!
It should be good knowledge also that your MENUs
still work fine !

IF MENU(0) then K$="#"+STR$(MENU(0))

Also using WM_KEYDOWN to read the special arrow key
strokes & stuff.  WM_CHAR won't read it ??

Oh and here is what I am using, I now have very good
Windowlock minus the memory munch and can smash crash
out anywheres doesn't matter cause I'm not doing true
pull/push memory stack stuff, all images are
recorded in strings also taking in account that one
pixel will never be bigger then 4 bytes yah and the
gfx work is done internally only so will work on any
computer with true save/load BITMAP for actual
program.

Made a nice .QIK format tho !

F=@FF
  OPEN "o",#F,F$+".qik"
  FOR I = 0 TO 17
    PRINT #F,I_Scr$(I);
  NEXT I
  CLOSE #F

CB WIN(1),WM_PAINT,Repaint

PROCEDURE Repaint(HW&,M&,W&,L)
  PutQ
RETURN

KILLEVENT always good to put inside interrupt
procedures, NEVER even try a PEEKEVENT !!

PutQ --> put contents of string down via:
DIM I_Scr$(17) 0-18 strips for entire screen:

FOR I=0 TO 17
  GET 0,I*16,415,I*16+15,I_Scr$(I)
NEXT I

And ONLY record the screen with this
when: TrueWdw=GetActiveWindow()
^ Which I just found out about today, but your way is
better and I don't have to make this global variable
in the beginning..

TrueWdw=GetActiveWindow() <-- in my startup, your
way is better no variables involved !

I couldn't figure out old screwy WM_ACTIVATE and
nothing is disturbing my work screen either !
Russell, you may not know this but your true
WindowLock on my laptop runs like molasses !  :P

Gotta new Gredit Game Gredit 2000 coming along VERY
nicely complete with pull-down menus.  I'll go to
write Frookie so can introduce everyone in here to
a way to WindowLock without all the memory bulk.

But Russell, you knowing as well as I that to get
100% flicker-free graphics I =MUST= use WindowLock,
so I save it for final game packages.  :)

Loop FOREVER and NEVER see that GetWdw routine
until you're back inside and it's been at least one
second of keyboard silence and only do it once until
you hit a key again.

* OKAY ! *

And now a SECRET I found out not listed in any
HELP, you can do many CHR$ I found out accidentally !

A$=CHR$(72,105,33)
PRINT A$

Hi!

Thanks for the tremendous help Russell !
Can now do ALT keystrokes !
Is there a way to prevent ALT from accessing menu ?
I want just mouse to do menu stuff so I can have
CTRL A-Z, ALT A-Z, Shift A-Z, yah I'm getting all
greedy in the main keystrokes for Gredit 2000.  :)

Sincerely,
David W.

Be looking for Frookie !
 
> > 2. Is there a way to determine if a window is
> >    active ?  That is, not if the mouse pointer
> leaves
> >    it but another task moved on top of it and it
> is
> >    now selected, or it is not enabled, the top bar
> >    is grey.  This task is not necessarily a
> different
> >    GFA Window but could be the volume window, an
> >    internet page, anything, and it can act on it.
> >    I'm happy to say I am using WM_ messages and
> _mess
> >    more now that I understand them.
> 
> Only one top level window can be activated at any
> time, so to find out if it
> is yours you do this:
> 
> IF GetActiveWindow()=WIN(1)
> 
> To find out when your window is activated or
> deactivated then process the
> WM_ACTIVATE message.
> 
> HTH,
> Russell Hayward
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List Member MISER@LCIA.COM (Micromiser, Inc) wrote:

In case anybody's interested, here's some code to play wav files.
Can't remember who posted this, but thanks whoever you are...

'init code:

DLL #4,"mmsystem.dll"
  DECL DWORD mciSendCommand(w,w,l,l) PASCAL GET
ENDDLL
TYPE MCI_SOUND_PARMS:
- DWORD Sound_dwCallback
- LONG lpstrSoundName
ENDTYPE
MCI_SOUND_PARMS: mciSoundParms.

'To play file:
dum$="d:\wav\wavefile.wav"+CHR$(0)
mciSoundParms.lpstrSoundName=V:dum$
A=@@mciSendCommand(0,2066,256,V:mciSoundParms.)

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Come on, Roland.  I've been working fruitlessly all this time
trying to make a bulk compression.  I can NOT identify the
compressor or quality factor by printing everything to a file
when I run.

Please... I beg you to answer this for me.

HOW can I set this up to batch compress?

Kommen Sie, Roland.  Ich habe all diese Zeit fruchtlos gearbeitet =20
das Versuchen, eine Gro=DFteil-Verdichtung zu machen.  Ich kann nicht=20
identifizieren das Kompressor oder Qualit=E4t-Faktor durch das Drucken=20
von allem zu einer Akte wenn ich laufe. =20
 =20
Bitte... ich bettele Sie, um dieses f=FCr mich zu beantworten. =20
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WIE kann ich dieses bis zu Ladung-Kompresse setzen? =20

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Greets Steve:

Playing a .WAV file is easy right ??

PLAYSOUND "sound.wav"

or ..

MCI "open sound.wav alias wav"
MCI "cue wav"
MCI "play wav"

Hope This Helps !

Sincerely,
David W.

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> In case anybody's interested, here's some code to
> play wav files.
> Can't remember who posted this, but thanks whoever
> you are...
> 
> 'init code:
> 
> DLL #4,"mmsystem.dll"
>   DECL DWORD mciSendCommand(w,w,l,l) PASCAL GET
> ENDDLL
> TYPE MCI_SOUND_PARMS:
> - DWORD Sound_dwCallback
> - LONG lpstrSoundName
> ENDTYPE
> MCI_SOUND_PARMS: mciSoundParms.
> 
> 'To play file:
> dum$="d:\wav\wavefile.wav"+CHR$(0)
> mciSoundParms.lpstrSoundName=V:dum$
> A=@@mciSendCommand(0,2066,256,V:mciSoundParms.)
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Greets Tom:

To make a batch compressor, you could make a GFA
file that creates a biggo batch file.

I use Midi2Zip to convert all MIDIs with path
recursion from .MID to .MDZ PKZIPed.

I all so use Midi1Dir to take all MIDIs from multiple
paths recursion to stuff them all in only 1 directory.
It renames them accordingly if there is all ready a
file with the same name.  Really nice for sorting
through several thousand MIDI, which after finding
a RPG FTP site, I've got a bit over an other 1000
MIDI to poke thru while I program now AGAIN.  :)

To make a batch file is easy.

OPEN "o",1,"go.bat"
PRINT #1,"pkzip -ex .. .. ."
CLOSE 1

Where the PRINT #1 command can have multiple string
array stuff made up from retrieving DIR or FILES or
both or the returned results from a different batch
file.  You =3DCAN=3D run it in GFA's SHELL at this point,
but it's better to pop into a true DOS SHELL, bring
it up under EDIT, make sure it all looks good, type
out GO.BAT, and spend an hour straightening your room
or cause playing Playstation whichever you like.

Cause PKZIPing several thousand files takes a-while.

If you plan to use SHELL or DOSEXEC in GFA, you may
wanna record all DIR contents first and check them
every second or so to see when you're all done.

Hope This Helps !

FROOKIE IN THE WORKS !

Dale this will be source for all cause I know this
videogame stuff isn't too well posted yet !

Sincerely,
David W.

--- Tom Record
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> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Come on, Roland.  I've been working fruitlessly all
> this time
> trying to make a bulk compression.  I can NOT
> identify the
> compressor or quality factor by printing everything
> to a file
> when I run.
>=20
> Please... I beg you to answer this for me.
>=20
> HOW can I set this up to batch compress?
>=20
> Kommen Sie, Roland.  Ich habe all diese Zeit
> fruchtlos gearbeitet =20
> das Versuchen, eine Gro=DFteil-Verdichtung zu machen.=20
> Ich kann nicht=20
> identifizieren das Kompressor oder Qualit=E4t-Faktor
> durch das Drucken=20
> von allem zu einer Akte wenn ich laufe. =20
>  =20
> Bitte... ich bettele Sie, um dieses f=FCr mich zu
> beantworten. =20
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Good idea, David, but wrong situation.  I'm trying to batch compress
a ton of images using Roland's Codec routines.  That's the msvideo
stuff that was left off your computer.  Thanks, tho.
<G>
TomR.


At 06:40 AM 04/06/00 -0700, you wrote:
>List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Greets Tom:
>
>To make a batch compressor, you could make a GFA
>file that creates a biggo batch file.
>
>I use Midi2Zip to convert all MIDIs with path
>recursion from .MID to .MDZ PKZIPed.
>
>I all so use Midi1Dir to take all MIDIs from multiple
>paths recursion to stuff them all in only 1 directory.
>It renames them accordingly if there is all ready a
>file with the same name.  Really nice for sorting
>through several thousand MIDI, which after finding
>a RPG FTP site, I've got a bit over an other 1000
>MIDI to poke thru while I program now AGAIN.  :)
>
>To make a batch file is easy.
>
>OPEN "o",1,"go.bat"
>PRINT #1,"pkzip -ex .. .. ."
>CLOSE 1
>
>Where the PRINT #1 command can have multiple string
>array stuff made up from retrieving DIR or FILES or
>both or the returned results from a different batch
>file.  You =3DCAN=3D run it in GFA's SHELL at this point,
>but it's better to pop into a true DOS SHELL, bring
>it up under EDIT, make sure it all looks good, type
>out GO.BAT, and spend an hour straightening your room
>or cause playing Playstation whichever you like.
>
>Cause PKZIPing several thousand files takes a-while.
>
>If you plan to use SHELL or DOSEXEC in GFA, you may
>wanna record all DIR contents first and check them
>every second or so to see when you're all done.
>
>Hope This Helps !
>
>FROOKIE IN THE WORKS !
>
>Dale this will be source for all cause I know this
>videogame stuff isn't too well posted yet !
>
>Sincerely,
>David W.
>
>--- Tom Record
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>> List Member Tom Record
>> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> Come on, Roland.  I've been working fruitlessly all
>> this time
>> trying to make a bulk compression.  I can NOT
>> identify the
>> compressor or quality factor by printing everything
>> to a file
>> when I run.
>>=20
>> Please... I beg you to answer this for me.
>>=20
>> HOW can I set this up to batch compress?
>>=20
>> Kommen Sie, Roland.  Ich habe all diese Zeit
>> fruchtlos gearbeitet =20
>> das Versuchen, eine Gro=DFteil-Verdichtung zu machen.=20
>> Ich kann nicht=20
>> identifizieren das Kompressor oder Qualit=E4t-Faktor
>> durch das Drucken=20
>> von allem zu einer Akte wenn ich laufe. =20
>>  =20
>> Bitte... ich bettele Sie, um dieses f=FCr mich zu
>> beantworten. =20
>>  =20
>> WIE kann ich dieses bis zu Ladung-Kompresse setzen?=20
>>=20
>>=20
>> TomR.
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
GFAWHELP -GFA16 page
LINKFILE.ZIP by Tom Record.

Help for linking those large GFW files.

Tom, help me out here!


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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Nowhere in my manual on the compiler & linker does it say that a *.gfw
is necessary!  Nor does it say one is NOT.  It also does NOT say that
in order to evoke a new /ALIGN factor, one must work w/ ALL associated
files in the gfawin dir, but I can get it to accept only one path...
where to write the executable.

So... what's this all about?  In that dir, exists the *.lnk file, the
*.res file, minijpeg.lib, & NOTHING ELSE that has anything to do with 
the executable.  I took the *.gfw out because I've edited hell out of 
it & NONE of the changes took place in the executable!

It is compiling a working *.scr of 1.34M WITHOUT SOURCE!!!!!

The damned thing runs, too!  Anything w/ a related *.gfw name has been
moved to other locations!  I think I'll just shut this son of a bitch down
& quit trying to do anything that can possibly make money.
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Dale
I donno how to help you, SORRY!

In this:
/REO /A:512 /nol /packc:38000 /f /DEL /RC:KAREN.RES
~GFA.obj ,e:\gfawin\karen.scr,nul,
MINIJPEG.LIB glib.lib,
~GFA.DEF

/A:512 is the new /ALIGNMENT:nnn factor, /RC:KAREN.RES is the resource file,
,e:\gfawin\karen.scr,nul, is what/where to compile to & the 3rd line includes
$LNKing in the minijpeg.lib.

That file you just announced writes the 4 line file above w/ the name of the
*.res/executable as a *.lnk file.

So far, all of that looks good.  My current problem is that it is compiling
an executable without benefit of a *.gfw file.  It can't find one!  The one
I've been correcting is NOT the one it's is compiling!  I removed it from that
dir, & by god, it STILL compiles using a ghost!
TomR.


At 11:54 AM 04/06/00 -0700, you wrote:
>List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
>GFAWHELP -GFA16 page
>LINKFILE.ZIP by Tom Record.
>
>Help for linking those large GFW files.
>
>Tom, help me out here!
>
>
>Dale Bryant
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--- Tom Record
<tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Good idea, David, but wrong situation.  I'm trying
> to batch compress
> a ton of images using Roland's Codec routines. 
> That's the msvideo
> stuff that was left off your computer.  Thanks, tho.
> <G>
> TomR.

Oh..  Well to do that just use BATCH in
Display to compress BMPs, JPGs, and GIFs.

Dju know there are some tiny .EXEs out there to
convert both JPGs and GIFs to BMPs ?

I'll let ya know more when I know more myself.

Okay kiddies !  Frookie is complete !  The funny
sounding treat with the great flavor !  ^o^

Okay it first looks like a little color doodler which
it is, but I think it breaks a lot of good ground in
persistent displays without resorting to DLLs and
push/pull critical memory that must be right or
crash computer.

Check it out !
[enclosed]

I think it's possible with a lot of programming along
this line to make a 100% effective if not flicker-free
a solid windowlock.  Using these means instead of
Russell's initial WindowLock runs QUITE a bit faster
then on slower computers where they have to COPY the
entire contents of the screen over.

Sincerely,
David W.


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List Member "Russell Hayward" <russ@softhome.net> wrote:

Hi David,

> I couldn't figure out old screwy WM_ACTIVATE and
> nothing is disturbing my work screen either !

Here's an example of WM_ACTIVATE:

OPENW #1
CB WIN(1),WM_ACTIVATE,ActivateProc
REPEAT
  SLEEP
UNTIL MENU(1)=4
CLOSEW #1
'
PROCEDURE ActivateProc(Win&,Mess&,wPar&,lPar%)
  IF wPar&<>0 'WA_INACTIVE=0
    ~TextOut(_DC(),0,20,"Activating      ",16)
  ELSE
    ~TextOut(_DC(),0,20,"Deactivating    ",16)
  ENDIF
RETURN

> Thanks for the tremendous help Russell !
> Can now do ALT keystrokes !
> Is there a way to prevent ALT from accessing menu ?
> I want just mouse to do menu stuff so I can have
> CTRL A-Z, ALT A-Z, Shift A-Z, yah I'm getting all
> greedy in the main keystrokes for Gredit 2000.  :)

This works okay:

CB WIN(1),WM_SYSKEYDOWN,SysKeyProc
CB WIN(1),WM_SYSKEYUP,SysKeyProc
...
PROCEDURE SysKeyProc(Win&,Mess&,wPar&,lPar%)
  ~TextOut(_DC(),0,0,CHR$(wPar&),1)
  KILLEVENT
  RETVAL 0
RETURN

I really love those callbacks!

HTH,
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
How can it do that? It must have a path somewhere if it is compiling.

Dale Bryant
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> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Dale
> I donno how to help you, SORRY!
>
> In this:
> /REO /A:512 /nol /packc:38000 /f /DEL /RC:KAREN.RES
> ~GFA.obj ,e:\gfawin\karen.scr,nul,
> MINIJPEG.LIB glib.lib,
> ~GFA.DEF
>
> /A:512 is the new /ALIGNMENT:nnn factor, /RC:KAREN.RES is the resource
file,
> ,e:\gfawin\karen.scr,nul, is what/where to compile to & the 3rd line
includes
> $LNKing in the minijpeg.lib.
>
> That file you just announced writes the 4 line file above w/ the name of
the
> *.res/executable as a *.lnk file.
>
> So far, all of that looks good.  My current problem is that it is
compiling
> an executable without benefit of a *.gfw file.  It can't find one!  The
one
> I've been correcting is NOT the one it's is compiling!  I removed it from
that
> dir, & by god, it STILL compiles using a ghost!
> TomR.
>
>
> At 11:54 AM 04/06/00 -0700, you wrote:
> >List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> >GFAWHELP -GFA16 page
> >LINKFILE.ZIP by Tom Record.
> >
> >Help for linking those large GFW files.
> >
> >Tom, help me out here!
> >
> >
> >Dale Bryant
> >http://gfawhelp.com
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
1) rc-gen26 is worthless.  New one coming shortly.
2) adding *.bat generation to the *.lnk generator.

Where does this thing get it's source from when using the linker
as the primaty doodledizzy to compile using a *.lnk w/ expanded
/ALIGNMENT:nnn?

I just rewrote another one & forgot to finish or put it in the
gfawin dir.  The damned thing compiles & runs!  It's still using
the ghost source for the one that won't clear the screen between
images.  I don't find that one ANYWHERE!

HELP! HELP! HELP! HELP! HELP! HELP! HELP! HELP! HELP! HELP! HELP!
TomR.

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Beats me, Boss!  It used the same source just now to compile a different one!
All has to be in the gfawin dir!  Can't find it's ass with all three hands
if it isn't all there but the source & I donno *where* the hell that is!

I know the link file works because this one is an *.exe, just as I called for.
The other was *.scr, as called for.  The compiler directives in the source
don't have any effect on it when compiling w/ the linker!

I'm about to log the whole drive to see if I can find it.
TomR.



At 02:49 PM 04/06/00 -0700, you wrote:
>List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
>How can it do that? It must have a path somewhere if it is compiling.
>
>Dale Bryant
>http://gfawhelp.com
>http://gfawhelp.gfa.net
>adbryant@msn.com
>adbryant@gfa.net
>----- Original Message -----
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>Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 12:31 PM
>Subject: Re: [gfabasic] UPDATE
>
>
>> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> Dale
>> I donno how to help you, SORRY!
>>
>> In this:
>> /REO /A:512 /nol /packc:38000 /f /DEL /RC:KAREN.RES
>> ~GFA.obj ,e:\gfawin\karen.scr,nul,
>> MINIJPEG.LIB glib.lib,
>> ~GFA.DEF
>>
>> /A:512 is the new /ALIGNMENT:nnn factor, /RC:KAREN.RES is the resource
>file,
>> ,e:\gfawin\karen.scr,nul, is what/where to compile to & the 3rd line
>includes
>> $LNKing in the minijpeg.lib.
>>
>> That file you just announced writes the 4 line file above w/ the name of
>the
>> *.res/executable as a *.lnk file.
>>
>> So far, all of that looks good.  My current problem is that it is
>compiling
>> an executable without benefit of a *.gfw file.  It can't find one!  The
>one
>> I've been correcting is NOT the one it's is compiling!  I removed it from
>that
>> dir, & by god, it STILL compiles using a ghost!
>> TomR.
>>
>>
>> At 11:54 AM 04/06/00 -0700, you wrote:
>> >List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
>> >GFAWHELP -GFA16 page
>> >LINKFILE.ZIP by Tom Record.
>> >
>> >Help for linking those large GFW files.
>> >
>> >Tom, help me out here!
>> >
>> >
>> >Dale Bryant
>> >http://gfawhelp.com
>> >http://gfawhelp.gfa.net
>> >adbryant@msn.com
>> >adbryant@gfa.net
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hi David,
> 
> > I couldn't figure out old screwy WM_ACTIVATE and
> > nothing is disturbing my work screen either !
> 
> Here's an example of WM_ACTIVATE:
> 
> OPENW #1
> CB WIN(1),WM_ACTIVATE,ActivateProc
> REPEAT
>   SLEEP
> UNTIL MENU(1)=4
> CLOSEW #1
> '
> PROCEDURE ActivateProc(Win&,Mess&,wPar&,lPar%)
>   IF wPar&<>0 'WA_INACTIVE=0
>     ~TextOut(_DC(),0,20,"Activating      ",16)
>   ELSE
>     ~TextOut(_DC(),0,20,"Deactivating    ",16)
>   ENDIF
> RETURN
> 
^ Okee, here's the scoreboard Russell:

  CB WIN(1),WM_PAINT,Repaint
  CB WIN(1),WM_ACTIVATE,Activate
  CB WIN(1),WM_MENUCHAR,ZapAltBell
  CB WIN(1),WM_SYSKEYDOWN,ZapAlt
  CB WIN(1),WM_SYSKEYUP,ZapAlt

The screen is almost 100% WindowLock except for
dragging edges off screen.  What I want to do is
record only when:

1. It's active
2. It's 100% visible
3. It's in focus
4. It's 100% on screen, no edges
5. It's TIME to (wait 1 second for no key activity)
   just after there WAS some key activity.
6. No other window is partially on top of it
7. No other window is going to pop on top of it

Yah you see the stuff it takes to lock a window
without your perfect WindowLock !  :)

But I think it can be done.
# 1, 3, and 5 I think I have down but
# 2, 4, 6, and 7 aren't doing it yet..

> > Thanks for the tremendous help Russell !
> > Can now do ALT keystrokes !
> > Is there a way to prevent ALT from accessing menu
> ?
> > I want just mouse to do menu stuff so I can have
> > CTRL A-Z, ALT A-Z, Shift A-Z, yah I'm getting all
> > greedy in the main keystrokes for Gredit 2000.  :)
> 
> This works okay:
> 
> CB WIN(1),WM_SYSKEYDOWN,SysKeyProc
> CB WIN(1),WM_SYSKEYUP,SysKeyProc
> ....
> PROCEDURE SysKeyProc(Win&,Mess&,wPar&,lPar%)
>   ~TextOut(_DC(),0,0,CHR$(wPar&),1)
>   KILLEVENT
>   RETVAL 0
> RETURN

Okee this doesn't seem to work maybe I'm not doing
it right ...

  CB WIN(1),WM_SYSKEYDOWN,ZapMenuAlt
  CB WIN(1),WM_SYSKEYUP,ZapMenuAlt

PROCEDURE ZapMenuAlt(HW&,M&,W&,L)
  KILLEVENT
  RETVAL 0
RETURN

I don't need the TEXTOUT to work it right ?
Just want ALT never access menus even if I got
some which I do.

If I hit an ALT key no matter where it is it never
pops to menu, I can hit ALT by itself or F10 and it
goes to menu, the bell stops *KUDOS!* but I also
want a menu too that cannot be accessed under ALT

One SNEAKY snafu trick I did which works but looks
crappy is:

DATA Pyramax&,Author,Credits,-,Goodbye,,Image&,Load
QIK,Save QIK,-,Load BMP,Save BMP,-
DATA
ClipSave,,Effects&,Outline,Lighten,Darken,Shimmer,SmartEdge,Shadow,Streamers,
DATA Region&,Erase,Fill,Box,Ellipse,Mantissa
DATA *

Notice the "&" on the end, well it works and no ALT
key pops up a menu but it leaves a nasty little line
on the end of each top menu item.

> 
> I really love those callbacks!
> 
> HTH,
> Russ

I'm getting there Russell, kicking and screaming
allaway leaving my good friend DOS behind but I'm
start to use Window Messages now FINALLY !
(Big Grin!)

I hadna forgotten you, will ship your Fun Bundle
this Monday !  :)

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Tom we all need help sometimes..
I found it work well if I stop one all complex
stuff and work on simpler brain quiet works out
the other one while your thinking of other.

Sincerely,
David W.

Yell help any louder and I gonna call a ambulance
for ya take you to that nice white padded cell cause
I been there and knowing all about it !  :)

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> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> 1) rc-gen26 is worthless.  New one coming shortly.
> 2) adding *.bat generation to the *.lnk generator.
> 
> Where does this thing get it's source from when
> using the linker
> as the primaty doodledizzy to compile using a *.lnk
> w/ expanded
> /ALIGNMENT:nnn?
> 
> I just rewrote another one & forgot to finish or put
> it in the
> gfawin dir.  The damned thing compiles & runs!  It's
> still using
> the ghost source for the one that won't clear the
> screen between
> images.  I don't find that one ANYWHERE!
> 
> HELP! HELP! HELP! HELP! HELP! HELP! HELP! HELP!
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List Member Pat Bullman <pbullman@norex.com.au> wrote:
OK Tom,

I'll try to help.

I need more information.  I gather you were calling the linker from the DOS
prompt.  I need to know what files you were linking, ie *.obj *.res etc and
the name of your output file, ie the exe's name.  Can you also send the
*.lnk file.

One thing you may not understand is that the process I explained the other
day ONLY involves linking of a file.  Compiling is a separate operation and
produces the file ~GFA.obj.  This is done using the compile button at the
button of GFA's main window and this, I think, is a Window's program and
can't be run for DOS.

So, whenever you run the linker, it is picking up whatever code was last
compiled and sitting in ~GFA.obj and links that to the *.res and the
default library.

If this doesn't help send me the *.lnk file and details as requested above
and I'll try to see what's happening.


Pat

At 23:58 04/06/00 +0000, you wrote:
>List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>1) rc-gen26 is worthless.  New one coming shortly.
>2) adding *.bat generation to the *.lnk generator.
>
>Where does this thing get it's source from when using the linker
>as the primaty doodledizzy to compile using a *.lnk w/ expanded
>/ALIGNMENT:nnn?
>
>I just rewrote another one & forgot to finish or put it in the
>gfawin dir.  The damned thing compiles & runs!  It's still using
>the ghost source for the one that won't clear the screen between
>images.  I don't find that one ANYWHERE!
>
>HELP! HELP! HELP! HELP! HELP! HELP! HELP! HELP! HELP! HELP! HELP!
>TomR.
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
I hadn't heard a word about my Append.

Did everyone buy the compiler after all then ?

Dale I just now realized that I DID need to buy
the compiler because the .EXE that does the internal
compilation requires true .EXE sooo the compiler
was needed after all for me to MAKE the compiler,
but it's not need run to make other .EXEs for
anyone else inside Append.

If you missed it, you can get your mini GFA Compiler
here.  It internalizes the GFARUN10.DLL into any
normal GFARUN10.DLL dependent .EXE.
http://www.geocities.com/dw817/product/append.zip

Or check out the single .EXE runtime of Dungeon that
was made with my Append so it is single .EXE:
http://www.geocities.com/dw817/product/dungeon.zip

With Frookie complete I'm going to get Gredit 2000
a bit more in shape and then work towards Dungeon 2,
which be the fringes of Scenario, my RPG Generator.

Russell, I've got 100% WindowLock now in all
aspects for Gredit minus windowlock commands !

I tell ya it wasn't easy !  Way too much coding, but
now it works perfect:

Can handle:
Move use dragbar to move window off edge or partially
[ALT] [TAB] to other tasks
Mouse click off edge or on to task buttons below
system interrupts window at surprise to user
Window partially overlapping screen inteligently
recalls all work beneath even during SAVE picture
or any other task for that matter

Did I miss anything ?  Oh yas, this works while doing
anything during as well, during save, load, or
otherwise, it freezes all and reinstates everything
when you return.

The advantage ?  Even though it's not locked as a
TOP Window with Russell's AlwaysOnTop and it's also
not using GETDC to create virtual windows, there's no
way to mess it up !

This will be applied towards me debugging code until
I am comfortable to use Russell's Windowlock for the
final countdown to completion of projects.

And Scenario, my RPG Generator !

It's about time I started back on that project now
that I can put:

MIDI, WAVs, flicker-free graphics, 34 megs of memory,
and 64 million colors, and pull-down menus for use in
it.  :)

Sincerely,
David W.

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> List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com>
> wrote:
> How can it do that? It must have a path somewhere if
> it is compiling.
> 
> Dale Bryant
> http://gfawhelp.com
> http://gfawhelp.gfa.net
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> adbryant@gfa.net
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> Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 12:31 PM
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> 
> 
> > List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> > Dale
> > I donno how to help you, SORRY!
> >
> > In this:
> > /REO /A:512 /nol /packc:38000 /f /DEL
> /RC:KAREN.RES
> > ~GFA.obj ,e:\gfawin\karen.scr,nul,
> > MINIJPEG.LIB glib.lib,
> > ~GFA.DEF
> >
> > /A:512 is the new /ALIGNMENT:nnn factor,
> /RC:KAREN.RES is the resource
> file,
> > ,e:\gfawin\karen.scr,nul, is what/where to compile
> to & the 3rd line
> includes
> > $LNKing in the minijpeg.lib.
> >
> > That file you just announced writes the 4 line
> file above w/ the name of
> the
> > *.res/executable as a *.lnk file.
> >
> > So far, all of that looks good.  My current
> problem is that it is
> compiling
> > an executable without benefit of a *.gfw file.  It
> can't find one!  The
> one
> > I've been correcting is NOT the one it's is
> compiling!  I removed it from
> that
> > dir, & by god, it STILL compiles using a ghost!
> > TomR.
> >
> >
> > At 11:54 AM 04/06/00 -0700, you wrote:
> > >List Member "Dale Bryant"
> <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> > >GFAWHELP -GFA16 page
> > >LINKFILE.ZIP by Tom Record.
> > >
> > >Help for linking those large GFW files.
> > >
> > >Tom, help me out here!
> > >
> > >
> > >Dale Bryant
> > >http://gfawhelp.com
> > >http://gfawhelp.gfa.net
> > >adbryant@msn.com
> > >adbryant@gfa.net
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Pat

When you are right, it can't be disputed!

Mostly <G>.

wgen.exe *is* a Windows compiler, but gen.exe is NOT.  NOW I have an even
stronger argument for throwing all of this stuff to the wind & finding another
hobby!

1) make a new *.lnk file as such:
/REO /A:512 /nol /packc:38000 /f /DEL /RC:KAREN.RES
~GFA.obj ,karen.exe,nul,
MINIJPEG.LIB E:\GFAWIN\glib.lib,
~GFA.DEF

/REOrganize segments - group like things together.
/A:512 - new alignment required, 512 is best #, for header info.
/nol - no logo from the linker while running.
/packc:38000 - combine segments of a class to max size nnn.
/f - improve far call operations by reducing segment count. 
/DEL - delete executable being written of an error occurs.
/RC:KAREN.RES - resource file to $LNK in.
~GFA.obj - play hell doing anything without this!  REALLY BAD!
 ,karen.exe,nul, - name (& path) of file to be written.
MINIJPEG.LIB - library to be $LNKed in.
E:\GFAWIN\glib.lib - path to glib.lib - S.O.L. without this!
~GFA.DEF - play hell doing anything w/o this, too!

It tolerates ONLY the 2 paths above!

2) make a new linking *.bat:
gfalnk %1 %2 @karen.lnk

3) dbl-click the *.bat & if all else is copasetic, it generates karen.exe
in the gfawin dir.  Leave anything out, you are S.O.L.!  It doesn't care
if the ~fda.res is there or not, & the *.bat can be anywhere else.

Sure disgusting that it uses the *.obj as a template for anything else!

Been up all night trying to make Roland's codec compression routine do
a batch compress.  Pissin into a very stiff wind on this one!  He must be
really having a ball over my problems.  There isn't enough info in his
files to do the trick.  I have about 2 full weeks' work in this!  I finally
identified the compressors & quality factor, but of no use because it bombs
if you try to circumvent the choose compressor dialog!  Something else must 
be derived from it.

TomR.

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Ok - anybody planning to make executables greater than 1M have an interesting
time ahead!  The /ALIGNMENT:nnn problem has been solved.  The "where the hell
did *that* come from" has been solved.

It behooves the GFA-W(16) programmer to compile one version of the intended
program using a small *.res file that has the image sizes & display instructs
in it's stringtables.  The stringtables have to be read & acted on so that the
basic program can be "generic", NOT specific in it's actions.  This means that
ALL possible display methods/options must be incorporated in the executable
portion with the actual display methods being determined by the stringtables
before compile.

This becomes a ~gfa.obj file that the DOS linker absolutely insists MUST be
in the same dir w/ the GFA-W(16) files.  When using the DOS linker to $LNK in
the larger *.res files, that isn't all that happens!  It goes on to compile
the executable using gen.exe, a DOS compiler.

So... to successfully create an executable of more than 1 Meg, you must have
a minimum of 3 files placed in the gfawin dir:  your.lnk, the prepared ~gfa.obj,
(you can also add other *.obj files in the "your.lnk" file).  It has proven to 
be easier if I have prepared a ~gfa.res file containing just the icon I want.  
If it's available, it gets $LNKed in along with my image.res.  One other file 
that eases the the compile is to generate a your.bat, in which you instruct 
your.lnk to to increase the end executable size & include your.res.  Minimum
3, nicer, 4.

If anyone is interested in seeing *my* display options, I'll post'em.  I have
13... slide right (from top to bottom), slide down (from left to right), slide 
left (from top to bottom), slide up (from right to left), slide right
(centered), 
slide down (centered), slide left (centered), slide up (centered).  I also have 
fixed (centered), build right (centered), build down (centered), build left 
(centered, build up (centered).  I'm working on darken (centered, starght
light) 
& lighten (centered, starts dark).  Others I'm working on are build alternate 
strips x pixels wide in 4 directions & one I'll build strips consecutively
or alternately but miss-aligned, flash a monster "Opps!", then re-align the
strips 
properly.  NO rotate or spin, sorry.  For somebody pretty well versed in
handling graphics, the ways to mess w/ images is nearly endless.  I'm still
a beginner!

Lightening/darkening can be done offscreen & blitted onscreen done, or it
can be 
accompilshed onscreen in a progressive display... to the right, down, to the
left 
or up.

Back to the batch codec compression situation.
<G>
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
I'm trying to compensate for displays being set to something other than 640x480.

Would somebody NOT using 640x480 please volanteer to run something for me & 
report on the effect?  I have question on the image size vs distortion & the
timing.

I've had trouble getting a GFA-W(16) appl to shrink images that are larger in
any direction than my screen setting of 640x480, but it seems stretching larger
is OK.

I've been having trouble getting timing to be independent of the processor's
speed.

I can't get Roland's codec-compression to batch-compress, so I'm stuck w/ his
minijpeg.lib.  Load->display time is attrocious on larger images, but the
reproduction is great.  My timing problem is in image movement when painting 
to the screen.  I thank Roland very much for the *.lib - I just wish he would
identify what's necessary to avoid the choose compressor dialog between images
on a batch compression run.  I'm NOT catching something that blocks doing it.

Should somebody volanteer to check things out for me, contact me & I'll send
a URL & password to download it.  The file will be about 1/2 Meg.

<G>
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Thanks anyway, guys.  Won't ask again.
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
UPDATE - GFA16 Section

FILEVIEW.ZIP by Pat Bullman

Nice program and nicely done.
Thanks Pat
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Dale,

I was in dire need of a tool which could scan through files and show the
raw data.  Couldn't find anything around at the time, so I developed
"FileView".

 The code makes extensive use of API's, rather than GFA's tools, and follows
the 'C' style which I gather most other users don't use.  It also uses
'resources' loaded
from a .dll when running in the Interpreter and from a .res when compiled.

The program appears to function quite well.

Pat


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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Any ideas?

CMOS.TXT

Purpose
*******

1. Naive users sometimes meddle with CMOS settings.  We need a
fast way to put the scores of subtle CMOS configuration settings
back the way they were.

2. Power surges can corrupt CMOS.  We need a way for a naive
user to quickly restore all the CMOS settings.

3. If the battery fails, the contents will be lost.  We need a
way to restore a known working CMOS configuration.


Syntax
******

There are three utilities in the CMOS suite:

CMOSSAVE.COM  A:Myfile.Sav
IF ERRORLEVEL 1 GO TO Trouble

        - saves a copy of CMOS in a file on hard disk or floppy.

CMOSREST.COM  A:MyFile.Sav
IF ERRORLEVEL 1 GO TO Trouble

        - restores CMOS from a file on hard disk or floppy.

CMOSCHK.COM   A:MyFile.Sav
IF ERRORLEVEL 1 GO TO FixIt

         - checks that CMOS has not been meddled with since the
           last CMOSSAVE.  Compares CMOS with a file on hard disk
           or floppy.

Hints on Use
************

Do a CMOSSAVE both to hard disk and to floppy.  The hard disk
copy can be used for quick restores built into your AUTOEXEC.BAT
file.

CMOSCHK.COM  C:\MyCMOS.Sav
IF ERRORLEVEL 1 CMOSREST.COM  C:\MyCMOS.Sav

At that point you must reboot before the restored cmos settings
take effect.  See CHKSAVE.BAT for a realistic way to handle
this.

Sometimes CMOS will be so badly damaged the hard disk parameters
will be corrupt and your hard disk will stop working.  In that
case you will have to revert to using the floppy copy.

Whenever you change your CMOS setting deliberately, you need to
redo the CMOSSAV.COM.  However USE A NEW FILENAME, so that you
can easily revert to the old version if your new settings do not
pan out.

How it works
************

CMOSSAVE.COM simply copies the 128 byte contents of the CMOS
bytes to a file.  CMOSREST.COM copies them back.  CMOSCHK
compares them with the file contents.  If they are not equal it
sets ERRORLEVEL 1.

CMOSREST does not touch bytes 0 to 09 and 32h because these are
volatile -- they contain the date and time.  Similarly CMOSCHK,
does not panic if any of these volatile bytes differ.  However,
CMOSSAVE saves all 128 bytes, so that you can browse the
generated file with a hex editor to learn more about how CMOS
works.

Because CMOSSave also saves the extended CMOS bytes, CMOSRest
will restore the esoteric options like shadow RAM, wait states,
processor clock speed, HMA enable etc.

These is no need to calculate checksums, since the checksum is
saved and restored just like any other CMOS byte.

I have included a file called CHKCMOS.BAT which can be inserted
in your AUTOEXEC.BAT which uses all three utilities.


How CMOS is used
****************

CMOS is battery backed RAM that stores configuration information
when the power is off.  It is on my top ten worst ideas list of
all time.  The problem is, CMOS is far too easily corrupted, by
programs, power or meddling.

offset  purpose
 00     seconds time of day
 01     seconds alarm
 02     minutes time of day
 03     minutes alarm
 04     hours time of day
 05     hours alarm
 06     day of week
 07     alarm day of month
 08     month of year
 09     year 1980=0
 0A     status register A
!0B     status register B alarm
 0C     status register C flags
!0D     status register D battery
!0E     diagnostics status
!0F     shutdown status
!10*    diskette type
!11*    reserved
!12*    hard disk type
!13*    reserved
!14*    LSB equipment word
!15*    LSB base RAM in K
!16*    MSB base RAM in K
!17*    LSB expansion RAM in K
!18*    MSB expansion RAM in K
!19*    fixed disk type C: extension
!1A*    fixed disk type D: extension
!1B*.2D reserved
!2E*    MSB checksum
!2F*    LSB checksum
!30     LSB extended RAM in K above 1 MB
!31     MSB extended RAM in K above 1 MB
 32     BCD Century
!33     128K info status byte
!34..3F reserved
!40..79 reserved for use by chipset maker

!       = must be restored
*       = checksummed

Troubleshooting
***************

Sometimes your CMOS will be so wrecked you cannot even get your
machine limping enough to run CMOSREST from floppy.  In that
case you must clear CMOS.  Do this on AMI BIOSes by holding down
the INS key, powering off, powering on, then releasing the INS
key.  In the worst case, remove the battery and let the
capacitance on the board drain overnight to clear it.

You can then get a bare bones CMOS configured -- that just has
the floppies right.  From there you can run CMOSREST.COM.

What is considered volatile and what is not, might vary for
different boards.  If you have trouble restoring, DO NOT
DESPAIR.  All is recorded.  A variant of the CMOSREST program
could get you back.  All you need is the source.


Author
******

CMOSSAVE, CMOSREST and CMOSCHK are copyrighted but may be freely
used for any purpose except military.  MASM source is available.
If you pass the files on, PLEASE PASS ON THIS DOCUMENTATION TOO.

Please report bugs and problems to:
Roedy Green
Canadian Mind Products
#168 - 1020 Mainland Street
Vancouver BC Canada
V6B 2T4
(604) 684-6529

Electronic mail users can contact me on:
BIX id ROEDY
Zoomit id GREEN ROEDY

Harvey Fishman wrote a pair of programs similar to CMOSSAVE and
CMOSREST, but to the best of my knowledge, never released them.

Shareware Status
****************

CMOSSAVE CMOSREST and CMOSCHK are shareware.  If you like them send
$20 US or Canadian to:

CMOSSAVE
Canadian Mind Products
#168 - 1020 Mainland Street
Vancouver BC Canada
V6B 2T4
(604) 684-6529 voice
(604) 684-5541 fax

We can take Visa, but not other credit cards by phone.

Please mention the program title since we sell thousands of
different products.

We in return will send you the latest version complete with MASM
source for CMOSSAVE, CMOSREST, CMOSCHK, REBOOT, BOOTSAVE,
BOOTREST and BOOTCHK.

If you don't register, we will not do anything mean to you.  We
don't even want you to feel guilty.  This is fee is purely
voluntary.  Enjoy.

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Well after very long and careful deliberation,
(deliberately I might add), :)  I have decided to
compromise on the use of push space in GFA and the
non-use of push space.

Since I am so worried about memory being taken
with WindowLock or any other high order full-screen
gets/puts, then why not make a quick routine called
ZZ ?

Unlike QBasic, GFA retains its values either in an
error or reaching the STOP or END statement.

QBasic loses ALL variables when it hits an END
or particular kinds of errors inside of source
statements which is why I've been against calling
any procedures after an error has occurred.

The solution is simple, write the code the way I
like using all the push space I need for anything
and IF an error occurs, before I deal with the
line at all, I hit [F4] zz [ENTER], and =THEN=
deal with the error at hand.

The procedure in ZZ intelligently looks at whatever
space I =MAY= have pushed and frees it.  If it was
never used, value = 0, then obviously I don't need
to free it.

This entire message may seem like a simple matter to
you but WindowLock has been giving me a bit of
head-ache having to reboot my computer 12x a day
because of never returning the memory back !
:/

This ZZ solution works well, and I imagine any others
of you can use a simple solution like ZZ to compensate
for push space in GFA.

Hope This Helps !

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Okay I've looked very thoroughly now and I couldn't
find a command in GFA to tell me which current
directory I am in when I am running the program.

I need this cause Gredit2000 is reading in .JPGs
.GIFs, and .ECCs from different directories sometimes
and I want it in the beginning to know where home is.

Russell, thank you =VERY= much for the source code
to multi-tasking those 4 channels !  It looks like
you spent some time on that coding.

And now the bad news.

If any of you have ever considered leaving GFA16
to join GFA32 there's a few "problems" :

#1, it didn't recognize my DEFFN statement at all !
#2, it thinks my period "." is a command
    yah well I shouldn't be using that as a REM
    anyways in GFA.  :)
#3, true limit of 200 lines of source code
#4, ALL instructions are German, zero English in HELP
#5, It's a whopping 7 megabyte download !

I went to download a copy for Dad cause he said he'd
use it if it could do true multi-tasking.

Russell, I don't know how you put up with GFA32's
odd little nuances (and nuisances), but GFA32 without
documentation is going to make it very hard to
program in, and the 200 line limit, and the apparently
complete LACK of upward compatibility from GFA16 !

Someone please let me know regarding knowing what
current directory I am in when running a program.
I can use "CD [ENTER]" in a DOS Shell but I'm trying
to avoid that.

For those of you out there who have difficulty with
DOS SHELL still.  The DOSEXEC command forces a
DOS Window to appear in Windows every single time
but it has proven itself much more stable then the
SHELL command which hides everything.

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>From Brent Deck, in Dale's helpfile:
PROCEDURE setup1
  OPENW #1,0,0,200,400,1008
  e1% = WS_VISIBLE | WS_CHILDWINDOW | WS_BORDER
  e2% =   ES_LEFT
  style% =  e1% + e2%
  //  CreateWindow("STATIC","",style%,0,0,_X,_Y,WIN(1),1,_INSTANCE,0)
  id_static& = CreateWindow("STATIC","",style%,0,0,_X,_Y,WIN(1),1,_INSTANCE,0)
RETURN

modified to:

PROCEDURE setup1
  e1% = WS_VISIBLE | WS_CHILDWINDOW | WS_BORDER
  OPENW #1,130,10,322,242,0 | e1%
  '  OPENW #1,0,0,200,400,1008
  '  e2% =   ES_LEFT
  style% =  e1% /* + e2%
  //  CreateWindow("STATIC","",style%,0,0,_X,_Y,WIN(1),1,_INSTANCE,0)
  '  static_id& =
CreateWindow("STATIC","",style%,130,10,320,240,WIN(1),1,_INSTANCE,0)
RETURN

Opens right size window, but is behind the dialog it's in, pops to top
when a FILESELECT is used to select a file.  This activates nviewl16.dll,
which loads an image into the window above.  This window is NOT a child of
the dialog, as I wish.  It is NOT in the right place... it refs the desktop.

The window appears, then drops behind the dialog until the FILESELECT becomes
active, whereupon it comes to the front but not in place.  The image selected
appears in theis small window.

I want the window to be in the proper place & a child of the dialog so it
will remain in sight while other controls on the dialog are used.  I've seen 
this done, but can't find the example.  The making of an inactive OWNER_DRAW
button doesn't work because I can't correlate the variables.

Can anybody help?  It will be greatly appreciated.
TomR.

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
David
There are any number of variations on this:
dh&  = _DRIVE
ph$ = DIR$(0)
home$ = CHR$(dh&) + ":" + ph$
IF RIGHT$(home$,1) <> "\" THEN
  home$ = home$ + "\"
ENDIF
TomR.


At 10:32 PM 08/06/00 -0700, you wrote:
>List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Okay I've looked very thoroughly now and I couldn't
>find a command in GFA to tell me which current
>directory I am in when I am running the program.
>
>I need this cause Gredit2000 is reading in .JPGs
>.GIFs, and .ECCs from different directories sometimes
>and I want it in the beginning to know where home is.
>
>Russell, thank you =VERY= much for the source code
>to multi-tasking those 4 channels !  It looks like
>you spent some time on that coding.
>
>And now the bad news.
>
>If any of you have ever considered leaving GFA16
>to join GFA32 there's a few "problems" :
>
>#1, it didn't recognize my DEFFN statement at all !
>#2, it thinks my period "." is a command
>    yah well I shouldn't be using that as a REM
>    anyways in GFA.  :)
>#3, true limit of 200 lines of source code
>#4, ALL instructions are German, zero English in HELP
>#5, It's a whopping 7 megabyte download !
>
>I went to download a copy for Dad cause he said he'd
>use it if it could do true multi-tasking.
>
>Russell, I don't know how you put up with GFA32's
>odd little nuances (and nuisances), but GFA32 without
>documentation is going to make it very hard to
>program in, and the 200 line limit, and the apparently
>complete LACK of upward compatibility from GFA16 !
>
>Someone please let me know regarding knowing what
>current directory I am in when running a program.
>I can use "CD [ENTER]" in a DOS Shell but I'm trying
>to avoid that.
>
>For those of you out there who have difficulty with
>DOS SHELL still.  The DOSEXEC command forces a
>DOS Window to appear in Windows every single time
>but it has proven itself much more stable then the
>SHELL command which hides everything.
>
>Sincerely,
>David W.
>
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List Member support@mountain-software.com wrote:
David,

DW> I couldn't find a command in GFA to tell me which current directory
DW> I am in when I am running the program.

Here is what I use to get the current directory:

  current_path$=SPACE$(150)
  ~GetModuleFileName(_INSTANCE,V:current_path$,150)
  current_path$=UPPER$(ZTRIM$(current_path$))
  a=RINSTR(current_path$,"\")
  IF a<>0
    current_path$=LEFT$(current_path$,a)
  ENDIF

Hope this helps,

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List Member "John Findlay" <John.Findlay@Byte-it.net> wrote:

> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> I want the window to be in the proper place & a child of the dialog so it
> will remain in sight while other controls on the dialog are used.  I've
seen
> this done, but can't find the example.  The making of an inactive
> OWNER_DRAW button doesn't work because I can't correlate the variables.

> Can anybody help?  It will be greatly appreciated.

Probably. Do you need the window from OpenW or are you only interested in
the static window?

Make up some code that has a dialog with that routine and I'll see if I can
help.

You might try making the static window part of the dialog, having it hidden
to start off with and make it visible when you need it.

~ShowWindow(GetDlgItem(DLG(1), ID of control), SW_HIDE)

~ShowWindow(GetDlgItem(DLG(1), ID of control), SW_NORMAL)

etc.

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List Member "Russell Hayward" <russ@softhome.net> wrote:
Hi David,

> > > Is there a way to prevent ALT from accessing menu
> > ?
> > > I want just mouse to do menu stuff so I can have
> > > CTRL A-Z, ALT A-Z, Shift A-Z, yah I'm getting all
> > > greedy in the main keystrokes for Gredit 2000.  :)
> >
> > This works okay:
> >
> > CB WIN(1),WM_SYSKEYDOWN,SysKeyProc
> > CB WIN(1),WM_SYSKEYUP,SysKeyProc
> > ....
> > PROCEDURE SysKeyProc(Win&,Mess&,wPar&,lPar%)
> >   ~TextOut(_DC(),0,0,CHR$(wPar&),1)
> >   KILLEVENT
> >   RETVAL 0
> > RETURN
>
> Okee this doesn't seem to work maybe I'm not doing
> it right ...
>
>   CB WIN(1),WM_SYSKEYDOWN,ZapMenuAlt
>   CB WIN(1),WM_SYSKEYUP,ZapMenuAlt
>
> PROCEDURE ZapMenuAlt(HW&,M&,W&,L)
>   KILLEVENT
>   RETVAL 0
> RETURN

Sorry, I didn't know that menus would still pop-up if you didn't put an & in
them. You only need to add one line:

CB WIN(1),WM_SYSCHAR,ZapMenuAlt

That will stop the menu shortcuts. In fact, if you do that you don't need to
handle the WM_MENUCHAR message, killing WM_SYSCHAR stops the beep too.

HTH,
Russell Hayward

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hey Tom !
You hit it right on the bean !
THANK YOU !

DIR$(0) is not listed in HELP but does
return the current directory.

_DRIVE is all ready in help but not
what I needed.

Appreciate it !
(Just updated code)

HomeDir$ = DIR$(0)
^ First line in program and ..

CHDIR HomeDir$
^ In shutdown

You may not know this but if you use
FILESELECT and start panning around,
GFA leaves it in that directory when
you finish, not good.

Incidentally, I'm using IMAGE ALCHEMY for
DOS to quick convert any picture file to
a bitmap so I can use it in Gredit 2000.

If you're still having troubles with DLLs
and stuff you might try that.

MyShell "alchemy -o "+F$+" _tmp.bmp"

Sincerely,
David W.

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> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> David
> There are any number of variations on this:
> dh&  = _DRIVE
> ph$ = DIR$(0)
> home$ = CHR$(dh&) + ":" + ph$
> IF RIGHT$(home$,1) <> "\" THEN
>   home$ = home$ + "\"
> ENDIF
> TomR.
> 
> 
> At 10:32 PM 08/06/00 -0700, you wrote:
> >List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >Okay I've looked very thoroughly now and I couldn't
> >find a command in GFA to tell me which current
> >directory I am in when I am running the program.
> >
> >I need this cause Gredit2000 is reading in .JPGs
> >.GIFs, and .ECCs from different directories
> sometimes
> >and I want it in the beginning to know where home
> is.
> >
> >Russell, thank you =VERY= much for the source code
> >to multi-tasking those 4 channels !  It looks like
> >you spent some time on that coding.
> >
> >And now the bad news.
> >
> >If any of you have ever considered leaving GFA16
> >to join GFA32 there's a few "problems" :
> >
> >#1, it didn't recognize my DEFFN statement at all !
> >#2, it thinks my period "." is a command
> >    yah well I shouldn't be using that as a REM
> >    anyways in GFA.  :)
> >#3, true limit of 200 lines of source code
> >#4, ALL instructions are German, zero English in
> HELP
> >#5, It's a whopping 7 megabyte download !
> >
> >I went to download a copy for Dad cause he said
> he'd
> >use it if it could do true multi-tasking.
> >
> >Russell, I don't know how you put up with GFA32's
> >odd little nuances (and nuisances), but GFA32
> without
> >documentation is going to make it very hard to
> >program in, and the 200 line limit, and the
> apparently
> >complete LACK of upward compatibility from GFA16 !
> >
> >Someone please let me know regarding knowing what
> >current directory I am in when running a program.
> >I can use "CD [ENTER]" in a DOS Shell but I'm
> trying
> >to avoid that.
> >
> >For those of you out there who have difficulty with
> >DOS SHELL still.  The DOSEXEC command forces a
> >DOS Window to appear in Windows every single time
> >but it has proven itself much more stable then the
> >SHELL command which hides everything.
> >
> >Sincerely,
> >David W.
> >
> >__________________________________________________
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
David
Shoulda mentioned FILESELECT, sorry.  IF you will reset to your home dir
after you open whatever you went for w/ FILESELECT, you don't get left
out in the boonies.  Leave it at the close-out tho, just for insurance.
GFA-W(16) will ignore it if already in the home dir.  I put a CLOSE there
also - just in case me or something else leaves a file open.  Can't put a
CLEAR in a PROCEDURE tho, so have to arrange something else for that.

My normal close-out routine:

end_it: /* a GOTO... CLEAR will fly here.
CLEAR /* clear all variables & arrays on the way out
@ende

PROCEDURE ende
  DEFMOUSE 0 /* normal arrow
  CHDRIVE dh&
  CHDIR ph$
  CLOSE /* close any files left open
  CLOSEW #1 /* other ways to close a window work here
  END /* make sure you kill the whole schmear!  *Can* follow the @ende.
RETURN

TomR.


At 06:46 AM 09/06/00 -0700, you wrote:
>List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Hey Tom !
>You hit it right on the bean !
>THANK YOU !
>
>DIR$(0) is not listed in HELP but does
>return the current directory.
>
>_DRIVE is all ready in help but not
>what I needed.
>
>Appreciate it !
>(Just updated code)
>
>HomeDir$ = DIR$(0)
>^ First line in program and ..
>
>CHDIR HomeDir$
>^ In shutdown
>
>You may not know this but if you use
>FILESELECT and start panning around,
>GFA leaves it in that directory when
>you finish, not good.
>
>Incidentally, I'm using IMAGE ALCHEMY for
>DOS to quick convert any picture file to
>a bitmap so I can use it in Gredit 2000.
>
>If you're still having troubles with DLLs
>and stuff you might try that.
>
>MyShell "alchemy -o "+F$+" _tmp.bmp"
>
>Sincerely,
>David W.
>
>--- Tom Record
><tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> List Member Tom Record
>> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> David
>> There are any number of variations on this:
>> dh&  = _DRIVE
>> ph$ = DIR$(0)
>> home$ = CHR$(dh&) + ":" + ph$
>> IF RIGHT$(home$,1) <> "\" THEN
>>   home$ = home$ + "\"
>> ENDIF
>> TomR.
>> 
>> 
>> At 10:32 PM 08/06/00 -0700, you wrote:
>> >List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >Okay I've looked very thoroughly now and I couldn't
>> >find a command in GFA to tell me which current
>> >directory I am in when I am running the program.
>> >
>> >I need this cause Gredit2000 is reading in .JPGs
>> >.GIFs, and .ECCs from different directories
>> sometimes
>> >and I want it in the beginning to know where home
>> is.
>> >
>> >Russell, thank you =VERY= much for the source code
>> >to multi-tasking those 4 channels !  It looks like
>> >you spent some time on that coding.
>> >
>> >And now the bad news.
>> >
>> >If any of you have ever considered leaving GFA16
>> >to join GFA32 there's a few "problems" :
>> >
>> >#1, it didn't recognize my DEFFN statement at all !
>> >#2, it thinks my period "." is a command
>> >    yah well I shouldn't be using that as a REM
>> >    anyways in GFA.  :)
>> >#3, true limit of 200 lines of source code
>> >#4, ALL instructions are German, zero English in
>> HELP
>> >#5, It's a whopping 7 megabyte download !
>> >
>> >I went to download a copy for Dad cause he said
>> he'd
>> >use it if it could do true multi-tasking.
>> >
>> >Russell, I don't know how you put up with GFA32's
>> >odd little nuances (and nuisances), but GFA32
>> without
>> >documentation is going to make it very hard to
>> >program in, and the 200 line limit, and the
>> apparently
>> >complete LACK of upward compatibility from GFA16 !
>> >
>> >Someone please let me know regarding knowing what
>> >current directory I am in when running a program.
>> >I can use "CD [ENTER]" in a DOS Shell but I'm
>> trying
>> >to avoid that.
>> >
>> >For those of you out there who have difficulty with
>> >DOS SHELL still.  The DOSEXEC command forces a
>> >DOS Window to appear in Windows every single time
>> >but it has proven itself much more stable then the
>> >SHELL command which hides everything.
>> >
>> >Sincerely,
>> >David W.
>> >
>> >__________________________________________________
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
John
Just the static window... the dialog is the GUI.  You answered the main
question w/ HIDE/SHOW.  They were nagging me but I couldn't catch the
thot & hold on to it.  MOVE *may* be my answer.  Thanks heaps!

I'm being nudged back to adapting one of Dale's helpfile generic API
windows.  Doubt it'll serve for this particular need, tho.  Too much
work to get to where the static takes me.  I'll see.

I'm in the midst of finishing off the *.rc goodie.  This project-let
allows me to play w/ actual display effects by scaling images down to
a scaled-down window.  When all is as I want, I can hit an "Accept"
button & write the effects to each image's STRINGTABLE entry in the
*.rc.  That lets me construct a generic *.exe/*.scr that doesn't
require individualized crap to handle different images & situations.
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At 01:18 PM 09/06/00 +0100, you wrote:
>List Member "John Findlay" <John.Findlay@Byte-it.net> wrote:
>
>> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> I want the window to be in the proper place & a child of the dialog so it
>> will remain in sight while other controls on the dialog are used.  I've
>seen
>> this done, but can't find the example.  The making of an inactive
>> OWNER_DRAW button doesn't work because I can't correlate the variables.
>
>> Can anybody help?  It will be greatly appreciated.
>
>Probably. Do you need the window from OpenW or are you only interested in
>the static window?
>
>Make up some code that has a dialog with that routine and I'll see if I can
>help.
>
>You might try making the static window part of the dialog, having it hidden
>to start off with and make it visible when you need it.
>
>~ShowWindow(GetDlgItem(DLG(1), ID of control), SW_HIDE)
>
>~ShowWindow(GetDlgItem(DLG(1), ID of control), SW_NORMAL)
>
>etc.
>
>John
>
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
How does one determine the language in use on a computer?  Code Page?
Keyboard?  Most would probably identify days & months if in English,
but many might want them in their own language.

One can put in a preference selection, but it *can* be done automatically.

I guess nobody is interested in recording & restoring the CMOS memory.

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Hi Tom,

> How does one determine the language in use on a computer?  Code Page?
> Keyboard?  Most would probably identify days & months if in English,
> but many might want them in their own language.
>
> One can put in a preference selection, but it *can* be done automatically.

Under 32-bit Windows it is easy, I have attached a demo that uses thunking
to find out. I have no idea how to do it under 16-bit.

HTH,
Russell Hayward

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List Member Pat Bullman <pbullman@norex.com.au> wrote:
Tom,

>List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>How does one determine the language in use on a computer?  Code Page?
>Keyboard?  Most would probably identify days & months if in English,
>but many might want them in their own language.

The following is from documentation on DOS INTERRUPTS published by Ralf
Brown.  Looks more complicated than actually is.  Hope it helps.

Pat

Tom, Found another lead.  The API GetKBCodePage() returns a code for the
keyboard driver table in use.  Might help.

Pat


--------D-2138-------------------------------
INT 21 - DOS 2+ - GET COUNTRY-SPECIFIC INFORMATION
	AH = 38h
--DOS 2.x--
	AL = 00h get current-country info
	DS:DX -> buffer for returned info (see #0745,#0746)
Return: CF set on error
	    AX = error code (02h)
	CF clear if successful
	    AX = country code (MS-DOS 2.11 only)
	    buffer at DS:DX filled
--DOS 3.0+--
	AL = 00h for current country
	AL = 01h thru 0FEh for specific country with code <255 (see #0747)
	AL = 0FFh for specific country with code >= 255
	   BX = 16-bit country code (see #0747)
	DS:DX -> buffer for returned info (see #0746)
Return: CF set on error
	    AX = error code (02h)
	CF clear if successful
	    AX = country code (Novell NWDOS v7.0)
	    BX = country code
	    DS:DX buffer filled
Note:	this function is not supported by the Borland DPMI host, but no error
	  is returned; as a workaround, one should allocate a buffer in
	  conventional memory with INT 31/AX=0100h and simulate an INT 21 with
	  INT 31/AX=0300h
SeeAlso: AH=65h,INT 10/AX=5001h,INT 2F/AX=110Ch,INT 2F/AX=1404h

Format of DOS 2.00-2.10 country info:
Offset	Size	Description	(Table 0745)
 00h	WORD	date format  0 = USA	mm dd yy
			     1 = Europe dd mm yy
			     2 = Japan	yy mm dd
 02h	BYTE	currency symbol
 03h	BYTE	00h
 04h	BYTE	thousands separator char
 05h	BYTE	00h
 06h	BYTE	decimal separator char
 07h	BYTE	00h
 08h 24 BYTEs	reserved

Format of DOS 2.11+ country info:
Offset	Size	Description	(Table 0746)
 00h	WORD	date format (see #0745)
 02h  5 BYTEs	ASCIZ currency symbol string
 07h  2 BYTEs	ASCIZ thousands separator
 09h  2 BYTEs	ASCIZ decimal separator
 0Bh  2 BYTEs	ASCIZ date separator
 0Dh  2 BYTEs	ASCIZ time separator
 0Fh	BYTE	currency format
		bit 2 = set if currency symbol replaces decimal point
		bit 1 = number of spaces between value and currency symbol
		bit 0 = 0 if currency symbol precedes value
			1 if currency symbol follows value
 10h	BYTE	number of digits after decimal in currency
 11h	BYTE	time format
		bit 0 = 0 if 12-hour clock
			1 if 24-hour clock
 12h	DWORD	address of case map routine
		(FAR CALL, AL = character to map to upper case [>= 80h])
 16h  2 BYTEs	ASCIZ data-list separator
 18h 10 BYTEs	reserved

(Table 0747)
Values for country code:
 001h	United States
 002h	Canadian-French
 003h	Latin America
 01Fh	Netherlands
 020h	Belgium
 021h	France
 022h	Spain
 024h	Hungary (not supported by DR DOS 5.0)
 026h	Yugoslavia (not supported by DR DOS 5.0)
 027h	Italy
 029h	Switzerland
 02Ah	Czechoslovakia/Tjekia (not supported by DR DOS 5.0)
 02Bh	Austria (DR DOS 5.0)
 02Ch	United Kingdom
 02Dh	Denmark
 02Eh	Sweden
 02Fh	Norway
 030h	Poland (not supported by DR DOS 5.0)
 031h	Germany
 037h	Brazil (not supported by DR DOS 5.0)
 03Dh	International English [Australia in DR DOS 5.0]
 051h	Japan (DR DOS 5.0, MS-DOS 5.0+)
 052h	Korea (DR DOS 5.0)
 056h	China (MS-DOS 5.0+)
 058h	Taiwan (MS-DOS 5.0+)
 05Ah	Turkey (MS-DOS 5.0+)
 15Fh	Portugal
 162h	Iceland
 166h	Finland
 311h	Middle East/Saudi Arabia (DR DOS 5.0,MS-DOS 5.0+)
 3CCh	Israel (DR DOS 5.0,MS-DOS 5.0+)

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
At 03:53 PM 11/06/00 +1000, you wrote:
>List Member Pat Bullman <pbullman@norex.com.au> wrote:
>Tom,
>
>>List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>>How does one determine the language in use on a computer?  Code Page?
>>Keyboard?  Most would probably identify days & months if in English,
>>but many might want them in their own language.
>
>The following is from documentation on DOS INTERRUPTS published by Ralf
>Brown.  Looks more complicated than actually is.  Hope it helps.
>
>Pat
>
>Tom, Found another lead.  The API GetKBCodePage() returns a code for the
>keyboard driver table in use.  Might help.
>
>Pat
>

Thank you very much, Pat.  I'll have my 486 back up shortly, so I
can try it all on it.  The 386 might be better, but I think the 
CMOS battery is dead in it, too.  Finding one is ruff!

Tulsa has suddenly gone from being the city with "one" on each
corner to a jerkwater town that doesn't have "one".  *Somebody*
in this joint has to have CMOS batteries!

I'm about to try hooking 2 "C" cells up for a try!  Both require
a 3.6v.  I have a junked cellphone w/ a 3.6v pack on it but when
charged, it reads 4.6v.
<G>
TomR.

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List Member "John Findlay" <John.Findlay@Byte-it.net> wrote:

Russell,

> Under 32-bit Windows it is easy, I have attached a demo that uses thunking
> to find out. I have no idea how to do it under 16-bit.

I hope Tom saw your fine listing!

Did you type in all those characters yourself?

Ho! Ho!  :-)

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List Member "Russell Hayward" <russ@softhome.net> wrote:

Hi John,

> Did you type in all those characters yourself?
>
> Ho! Ho!  :-)

I wouldn't dream of doing that! :-) I added a bit to my constants program a
while back that could copy multiple constants to the clipboard at once.

Best wishes,
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Sorry, I didn't know that menus would still pop-up
> if you didn't put an & in
> them. You only need to add one line:
> 
> CB WIN(1),WM_SYSCHAR,ZapMenuAlt
> 

* WAY TO GO RUSSELL *

You're the greatest !  :)

Yah he says I all ready knew I was just waiting for
you to notice !  (Smile!)

Good job, [ALT] is now 100% free for other options.

Gredit 2000 can progress a little farther now and
my work on Dungeon 2.

Thanks !

Sincerely,
David W.

> That will stop the menu shortcuts. In fact, if you
> do that you don't need to
> handle the WM_MENUCHAR message, killing WM_SYSCHAR
> stops the beep too.
> 
> HTH,
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> Here is what I use to get the current directory:
> 
>   current_path$=SPACE$(150)
>   ~GetModuleFileName(_INSTANCE,V:current_path$,150)
>   current_path$=UPPER$(ZTRIM$(current_path$))
>   a=RINSTR(current_path$,"\")
>   IF a<>0
>     current_path$=LEFT$(current_path$,a)
>   ENDIF
> 
> Hope this helps,
> 
> Anthony
> -----------------

Hoosh Anthony !  That's a lotta work !
I like Tom's easy way.

Home$=Dir$(0)

Kudos gang !  I do appreciate all the help but the
SMALLEST and EASIEST code is all ways the one
I'm a looking out for.  :)

Sincerely,
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Yep !  I'm doing that line actually it is right
after the FILESELECT.  Geesh GFA oughta be smart
enough to stay put cause the file it returns is all
pathed and stuff the right way.  :)

Sincerely,
David W.

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> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> David
> Shoulda mentioned FILESELECT, sorry.  IF you will
> reset to your home dir
> after you open whatever you went for w/ FILESELECT,
> you don't get left
> out in the boonies.  Leave it at the close-out tho,
> just for insurance.
> GFA-W(16) will ignore it if already in the home dir.
>  I put a CLOSE there
> also - just in case me or something else leaves a
> file open.  Can't put a
> CLEAR in a PROCEDURE tho, so have to arrange
> something else for that.
> 
> My normal close-out routine:
> 
> end_it: /* a GOTO... CLEAR will fly here.
> CLEAR /* clear all variables & arrays on the way out
> @ende
> 
> PROCEDURE ende
>   DEFMOUSE 0 /* normal arrow
>   CHDRIVE dh&
>   CHDIR ph$
>   CLOSE /* close any files left open
>   CLOSEW #1 /* other ways to close a window work
> here
>   END /* make sure you kill the whole schmear! 
> *Can* follow the @ende.
> RETURN
> 
> TomR.


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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Tom, I remember I password protected my computer
sometime ago cause I had lots of friends by when I
was living at my old place.  If you can figure out
a way to get past CMOS (Crypted Mystery Operation
Sentence) then get password back maybe ?

Dad read a book years ago and saw how to get in a
password protected computer cause I forgot what I did.
:/

Sincerely,
David W.

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> How does one determine the language in use on a
> computer?  Code Page?
> Keyboard?  Most would probably identify days &
> months if in English,
> but many might want them in their own language.
> 
> One can put in a preference selection, but it *can*
> be done automatically.
> 
> I guess nobody is interested in recording &
> restoring the CMOS memory.
> 
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Hi to All

Do you know, how I could get long name of selected font. eg:

font$=3D"C:\WINDOWS\FONTS\TIMES.TTF"
FONT font$ WIDTH 12 HEIGHT 24 WEIGHT 700
FONT to fnt&
SETFONT fnt&

It dosen't work, because font "times.ttf" doesn't exist. Long name of =
this font is Times New Roman. Whos know how I can get it.

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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" size=3D2>Hi to All</FONT></DIV>
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selected font. eg:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE"=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" size=3D2>FONT font$ WIDTH 12 HEIGHT 24 =
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700</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" size=3D2>FONT to fnt&amp;</FONT></DIV>
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doesn't exist. Long name of this font is Times New Roman. Whos know how =
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get it.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" size=3D2>Peter</FONT></DIV>
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List Member "Russell Hayward" <russ@softhome.net> wrote:

Hi David,

> Yep !  I'm doing that line actually it is right
> after the FILESELECT.  Geesh GFA oughta be smart
> enough to stay put cause the file it returns is all
> pathed and stuff the right way.  :)

I think that FILESELECT was left in more for compatibility, DLG OPEN gives
you much more flexibility, including the ability to stop the change of
directory (OFN_NOCHANGEDIR):

OPENW #1

DIM filt$(20)
filt$(0)="Windows Bitmap", filt$(1)="*.BMP;*.RLE"
filt$(2)="Text Files",     filt$(3)="*.TXT"
filt$(4)="All Files",      filt$(5)="*.*"

OFN_LONGNAMES%=$00200000     ' Force long names on Win9x
Flags%=OFN_LONGNAMES% | OFN_OVERWRITEPROMPT | OFN_HIDEREADONLY
Flags%|=OFN_FILEMUSTEXIST | OFN_PATHMUSTEXIST | OFN_NOCHANGEDIR
DLG OPEN WIN(1),Flags%,"Open File","C:\","BMP",filt$(),file$

REPEAT
  SLEEP
  ? AT(0,0) file$;
UNTIL MENU(1)=4
CLOSEW #1

HTH,
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Greets Peter:

I have a program Russell wrote that lists all fonts by
long names I not really understanding cause it uses a
listbox which I guess I still need to learn.

With Russell's OK can send it to you.

Sincerely,
David W.

--- Micha=B3_Sejfried <42810730@pro.onet.pl> wrote:
> Hi to All
>=20
> Do you know, how I could get long name of selected
> font. eg:
>=20
> font$=3D"C:\WINDOWS\FONTS\TIMES.TTF"
> FONT font$ WIDTH 12 HEIGHT 24 WEIGHT 700
> FONT to fnt&
> SETFONT fnt&
>=20
> It dosen't work, because font "times.ttf" doesn't
> exist. Long name of this font is Times New Roman.
> Whos know how I can get it.
>=20
> Best Regards
> Peter
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From: "Eberhard Funck" <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de>
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Hi to you

Try:

font$=3D"Times New Roman"
FONT font$ WIDTH 12 HEIGHT 24 WEIGHT 700
FONT to fnt&
SETFONT fnt&

It's so easy.

Greetings

Eberhard

    -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----
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    Datum: Sonntag, 11. Juni 2000 17:20
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    Hi to All
   =20
    Do you know, how I could get long name of selected font. eg:
   =20
    font$=3D"C:\WINDOWS\FONTS\TIMES.TTF"
    FONT font$ WIDTH 12 HEIGHT 24 WEIGHT 700
    FONT to fnt&
    SETFONT fnt&
   =20
    It dosen't work, because font "times.ttf" doesn't exist. Long name =
of this font is Times New Roman. Whos know how I can get it.
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    Best Regards
    Peter
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<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial size=3D2>Try:</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" size=3D2>font$=3D&quot;Times New =
Roman&quot;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" size=3D2>FONT font$ WIDTH 12 HEIGHT 24 =
WEIGHT=20
700</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" size=3D2>FONT to fnt&amp;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" size=3D2>SETFONT =
fnt&amp;</FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial size=3D2>It's so =
easy.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Greetings</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Eberhard</FONT></DIV>
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    <DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" size=3D2>Hi to All</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" size=3D2>Do you know, how I could get =
long name of=20
    selected font. eg:</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE"=20
    size=3D2>font$=3D&quot;C:\WINDOWS\FONTS\TIMES.TTF&quot;</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" size=3D2>FONT font$ WIDTH 12 HEIGHT 24 =
WEIGHT=20
    700</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" size=3D2>FONT to fnt&amp;</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" size=3D2>SETFONT fnt&amp;</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" size=3D2>It dosen't work, because font=20
    &quot;times.ttf&quot; doesn't exist. Long name of this font is Times =
New=20
    Roman. Whos know how I can get it.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" size=3D2>Best Regards</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" size=3D2>Peter</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" size=3D2><A=20
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Hi Eberhard
It is good idea, but I wrote program to show font and I've only short =
file name.
Do you have another idea?

Peter.
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  From: Eberhard Funck=20
  To: gfabasic@gfa.net=20
  Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2000 5:47 PM
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  Hi to you
  =20
  Try:
  =20
  font$=3D"Times New Roman"
  FONT font$ WIDTH 12 HEIGHT 24 WEIGHT 700
  FONT to fnt&
  SETFONT fnt&

  It's so easy.
  =20
  Greetings
  =20
  Eberhard
  =20
    -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----
    Von: Micha=B3 Sejfried <42810730@pro.onet.pl>
    An: Gfa mailing list <gfabasic@gfa.net>
    Datum: Sonntag, 11. Juni 2000 17:20
    Betreff: [gfabasic] Fonts


    Hi to All

    Do you know, how I could get long name of selected font. eg:

    font$=3D"C:\WINDOWS\FONTS\TIMES.TTF"
    FONT font$ WIDTH 12 HEIGHT 24 WEIGHT 700
    FONT to fnt&
    SETFONT fnt&

    It dosen't work, because font "times.ttf" doesn't exist. Long name =
of this font is Times New Roman. Whos know how I can get it.

    Best Regards
    Peter

    42810730@pro.onet.pl

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  <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi to =
you</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial size=3D2>Try:</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" size=3D2>font$=3D"Times New =
Roman"</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" size=3D2>FONT font$ WIDTH 12 HEIGHT 24 =
WEIGHT=20
  700</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" size=3D2>FONT to fnt&amp;</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" size=3D2>SETFONT =
fnt&amp;</FONT></DIV></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial size=3D2>It's so =
easy.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Greetings</FONT></DIV>
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    <DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" size=3D2>Hi to All</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" size=3D2>Do you know, how I could get =
long name of=20
    selected font. eg:</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE"=20
    size=3D2>font$=3D"C:\WINDOWS\FONTS\TIMES.TTF"</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" size=3D2>FONT font$ WIDTH 12 HEIGHT 24 =
WEIGHT=20
    700</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" size=3D2>FONT to fnt&amp;</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" size=3D2>SETFONT fnt&amp;</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" size=3D2>It dosen't work, because font =
"times.ttf"=20
    doesn't exist. Long name of this font is Times New Roman. Whos know =
how I=20
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    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" size=3D2>Best Regards</FONT></DIV>
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Subject: [gfabasic] font info/names   1106xx1-
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

11/06/2000 12:14:47 PM   font info/names   1106xx1-
Peter, & others interested:

There is something akin to versinfo in a TTF file, but versinfo will NOT
retrieve it.  Here are two of them to look at.  First is Times New Roman,
the 2nd is Cosmi 40.  There appears to be some possibility of figuring out
how to dig out the copyright - maybe a text scanner or search for the "=A9"=
 or
"(C)" followed by printable chars. "=A9" will occur all over the place but
only in *this* location will it probably be followed by printables of any
appreciable length.

Have lots of fun <G>.
<G>
TomR.


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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
I saw _&_ appreciated!  *That* is called "going the extra mile" over here!
You can bet I saved every bit of it!!!
<G>
TomR.


At 11:39 AM 11/06/00 +0100, you wrote:
>List Member "John Findlay" <John.Findlay@Byte-it.net> wrote:
>
>Russell,
>
>> Under 32-bit Windows it is easy, I have attached a demo that uses thunking
>> to find out. I have no idea how to do it under 16-bit.
>
>I hope Tom saw your fine listing!
>
>Did you type in all those characters yourself?
>
>Ho! Ho!  :-)
>
>John
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
David
CMOS is under scrutiny, you betcha!  One funny thing about Win PWs... you can
generally get past'em by booting from a floppy w/, say, DOS6 & an autoexec.bat
that gives you the HDs.

I still don't know exactly what is accessable or retrievable from CMOS, but I
would bet you that it contains NO passwords.  They're probably in the registry
or stashed in a *.cfg file somewhere - un-noticed when booting in DOS.  CMOS
handles instructions on drives, etc.

IF I run across anything, I'll yell.
<G>
TomR.


At 08:13 AM 11/06/00 -0700, you wrote:
>List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Tom, I remember I password protected my computer
>sometime ago cause I had lots of friends by when I
>was living at my old place.  If you can figure out
>a way to get past CMOS (Crypted Mystery Operation
>Sentence) then get password back maybe ?
>
>Dad read a book years ago and saw how to get in a
>password protected computer cause I forgot what I did.
>:/
>
>Sincerely,
>David W.
>
>--- Tom Record
><tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> List Member Tom Record
>> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> How does one determine the language in use on a
>> computer?  Code Page?
>> Keyboard?  Most would probably identify days &
>> months if in English,
>> but many might want them in their own language.
>> 
>> One can put in a preference selection, but it *can*
>> be done automatically.
>> 
>> I guess nobody is interested in recording &
>> restoring the CMOS memory.
>> 
>> TomR.
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Ouch !  That's a lotta stuff !
FILESELECT may not being as powerful but it surely
is easier to use !  :)

There's an other way to do filebox too how do you
do that and what is its name ?  For opening colors
fonts etc.

I got Mucci all animating now.
Thanks for help in Gredit !

Sincerely,
David W.

> Hi David,
 
> I think that FILESELECT was left in more for
> compatibility, DLG OPEN gives
> you much more flexibility, including the ability to
> stop the change of
> directory (OFN_NOCHANGEDIR):
> 
> OPENW #1
> 
> DIM filt$(20)
> filt$(0)="Windows Bitmap", filt$(1)="*.BMP;*.RLE"
> filt$(2)="Text Files",     filt$(3)="*.TXT"
> filt$(4)="All Files",      filt$(5)="*.*"
> 
> OFN_LONGNAMES%=$00200000     ' Force long names on
> Win9x
> Flags%=OFN_LONGNAMES% | OFN_OVERWRITEPROMPT |
> OFN_HIDEREADONLY
> Flags%|=OFN_FILEMUSTEXIST | OFN_PATHMUSTEXIST |
> OFN_NOCHANGEDIR
> DLG OPEN WIN(1),Flags%,"Open
> File","C:\","BMP",filt$(),file$
> 
> REPEAT
>   SLEEP
>   ? AT(0,0) file$;
> UNTIL MENU(1)=4
> CLOSEW #1
> 
> HTH,
> Russell Hayward




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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Greets Eberhard:

Don't forget the

FREEFONT fnt&

in the end !

Well, looks like I'm finally gonna get my car
sold.  Had it for $250 and after lotsa people
started it up and all and sayed they pay only $50
for it got nice auto dealer fellow say $250 good
price for running car and he's coming tonite.  :)

Sincerely,
David W.

--- Eberhard Funck <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de>
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> Hi to you
>=20
> Try:
>=20
> font$=3D"Times New Roman"
> FONT font$ WIDTH 12 HEIGHT 24 WEIGHT 700
> FONT to fnt&
> SETFONT fnt&
>=20
> It's so easy.
>=20
> Greetings
>=20
> Eberhard
>=20
>     -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----
>     Von: Micha=B3 Sejfried <42810730@pro.onet.pl>
>     An: Gfa mailing list <gfabasic@gfa.net>
>     Datum: Sonntag, 11. Juni 2000 17:20
>     Betreff: [gfabasic] Fonts
>    =20
>    =20
>     Hi to All
>    =20
>     Do you know, how I could get long name of
> selected font. eg:
>    =20
>     font$=3D"C:\WINDOWS\FONTS\TIMES.TTF"
>     FONT font$ WIDTH 12 HEIGHT 24 WEIGHT 700
>     FONT to fnt&
>     SETFONT fnt&
>    =20
>     It dosen't work, because font "times.ttf"
> doesn't exist. Long name of this font is Times New
> Roman. Whos know how I can get it.
>    =20
>     Best Regards
>     Peter
>    =20
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Greets Peter:

If you're asking what I think you are, I'd like
to know too how to display a font entirely by
the true FONT filename alone like,

"times.ttf"  or  "wingding.ttf"

Sincerely,
David W.

--- Micha=B3_Sejfried <42810730@pro.onet.pl> wrote:
> Hi Eberhard
> It is good idea, but I wrote program to show font
> and I've only short file name.
> Do you have another idea?
>=20
> Peter.
>   ----- Original Message -----=20
>   From: Eberhard Funck=20
>   To: gfabasic@gfa.net=20
>   Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2000 5:47 PM
>   Subject: Re: [gfabasic] Fonts
>=20
>=20
>   Hi to you
>   =20
>   Try:
>   =20
>   font$=3D"Times New Roman"
>   FONT font$ WIDTH 12 HEIGHT 24 WEIGHT 700
>   FONT to fnt&
>   SETFONT fnt&
>=20
>   It's so easy.
>   =20
>   Greetings
>   =20
>   Eberhard
>   =20
>     -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----
>     Von: Micha=B3 Sejfried <42810730@pro.onet.pl>
>     An: Gfa mailing list <gfabasic@gfa.net>
>     Datum: Sonntag, 11. Juni 2000 17:20
>     Betreff: [gfabasic] Fonts
>=20
>=20
>     Hi to All
>=20
>     Do you know, how I could get long name of
> selected font. eg:
>=20
>     font$=3D"C:\WINDOWS\FONTS\TIMES.TTF"
>     FONT font$ WIDTH 12 HEIGHT 24 WEIGHT 700
>     FONT to fnt&
>     SETFONT fnt&
>=20
>     It dosen't work, because font "times.ttf"
> doesn't exist. Long name of this font is Times New
> Roman. Whos know how I can get it.
>=20
>     Best Regards
>     Peter
>=20
>     42810730@pro.onet.pl
>=20


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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Greets Tom:

Well I don't need it now cause I don't get many
visitors where I'm staying now so ohh well..  but may
be others like to know cause they lock themselves
out sometime ??  :)

Sincerely,
David W.


--- Tom Record
<tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> David
> CMOS is under scrutiny, you betcha!  One funny thing
> about Win PWs... you can
> generally get past'em by booting from a floppy w/,
> say, DOS6 & an autoexec.bat
> that gives you the HDs.
> 
> I still don't know exactly what is accessable or
> retrievable from CMOS, but I
> would bet you that it contains NO passwords. 
> They're probably in the registry
> or stashed in a *.cfg file somewhere - un-noticed
> when booting in DOS.  CMOS
> handles instructions on drives, etc.
> 
> IF I run across anything, I'll yell.
> <G>
> TomR.
> 
> 
> At 08:13 AM 11/06/00 -0700, you wrote:
> >List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >Tom, I remember I password protected my computer
> >sometime ago cause I had lots of friends by when I
> >was living at my old place.  If you can figure out
> >a way to get past CMOS (Crypted Mystery Operation
> >Sentence) then get password back maybe ?
> >
> >Dad read a book years ago and saw how to get in a
> >password protected computer cause I forgot what I
> did.
> >:/
> >
> >Sincerely,
> >David W.
> >
> >--- Tom Record
> ><tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> >> List Member Tom Record
> >> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net>
> wrote:
> >> How does one determine the language in use on a
> >> computer?  Code Page?
> >> Keyboard?  Most would probably identify days &
> >> months if in English,
> >> but many might want them in their own language.
> >> 
> >> One can put in a preference selection, but it
> *can*
> >> be done automatically.
> >> 
> >> I guess nobody is interested in recording &
> >> restoring the CMOS memory.
> >> 
> >> TomR.
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From: "Eberhard Funck" <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de>
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Subject: Re: [gfabasic] Odp: Fonts
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List Member "Eberhard Funck" <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de> wrote:
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Hi Peter,
as attechment a demo for displaying all truetype fonts.
It don't works with the GFA basic functions, you need the
Windows API functions.

Greetings

Eberhard

    -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----
    Von: Micha=B3 Sejfried <42810730@pro.onet.pl>
    An: gfabasic@gfa.net <gfabasic@gfa.net>
    Datum: Sonntag, 11. Juni 2000 18:28
    Betreff: [gfabasic] Odp: Fonts
   =20
   =20
    Hi Eberhard
    It is good idea, but I wrote program to show font and I've only =
short file name.
    Do you have another idea?
   =20
    Peter.
        ----- Original Message -----=20
        From: Eberhard Funck=20
        To: gfabasic@gfa.net=20
        Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2000 5:47 PM
        Subject: Re: [gfabasic] Fonts
       =20
       =20
        Hi to you
        =20
        Try:
        =20
        font$=3D"Times New Roman"
        FONT font$ WIDTH 12 HEIGHT 24 WEIGHT 700
        FONT to fnt&
        SETFONT fnt&
       =20
        It's so easy.
        =20
        Greetings
        =20
        Eberhard
        =20
            -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----
            Von: Micha=B3 Sejfried <42810730@pro.onet.pl>
            An: Gfa mailing list <gfabasic@gfa.net>
            Datum: Sonntag, 11. Juni 2000 17:20
            Betreff: [gfabasic] Fonts
           =20
           =20
            Hi to All
           =20
            Do you know, how I could get long name of selected font. eg:
           =20
            font$=3D"C:\WINDOWS\FONTS\TIMES.TTF"
            FONT font$ WIDTH 12 HEIGHT 24 WEIGHT 700
            FONT to fnt&
            SETFONT fnt&
           =20
            It dosen't work, because font "times.ttf" doesn't exist. =
Long name of this font is Times New Roman. Whos know how I can get it.
           =20
            Best Regards
            Peter
           =20
            42810730@pro.onet.pl

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<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi Peter,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial size=3D2>as attechment a demo =
for displaying=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It don't works with the GFA basic =
functions, you=20
need the</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Windows API functions.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Greetings</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Eberhard</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
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    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><B>-----Urspr&uuml;ngliche=20
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    =
href=3D"mailto:42810730@pro.onet.pl">42810730@pro.onet.pl</A>&gt;<BR><B>A=
n:=20
    </B><A href=3D"mailto:gfabasic@gfa.net">gfabasic@gfa.net</A> &lt;<A=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:gfabasic@gfa.net">gfabasic@gfa.net</A>&gt;<BR><B>Datum:=20
    </B>Sonntag, 11. Juni 2000 18:28<BR><B>Betreff: </B>[gfabasic] Odp:=20
    Fonts<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
    <DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" size=3D2>Hi Eberhard</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" size=3D2>It is good idea, but I wrote =
program to=20
    show font and I've only short file name.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" size=3D2>Do you have another =
idea?</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" size=3D2>Peter.</FONT></DIV>
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        <A href=3D"mailto:funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de"=20
        title=3Dfunck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de>Eberhard Funck</A> </DIV>
        <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial ce"><B>To:</B> <A=20
        href=3D"mailto:gfabasic@gfa.net"=20
        title=3Dgfabasic@gfa.net>gfabasic@gfa.net</A> </DIV>
        <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial ce"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, June 11, =
2000 5:47=20
        PM</DIV>
        <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial ce"><B>Subject:</B> Re: =
[gfabasic]=20
        Fonts</DIV>
        <DIV><BR></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi to =
you</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial =
size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial =
size=3D2>Try:</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial =
size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV>
        <DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" size=3D2>font$=3D&quot;Times New=20
        Roman&quot;</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" size=3D2>FONT font$ WIDTH 12 HEIGHT =
24 WEIGHT=20
        700</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" size=3D2>FONT to =
fnt&amp;</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" size=3D2>SETFONT =
fnt&amp;</FONT></DIV></DIV>
        <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial size=3D2>It's so =
easy.</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial =
size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Greetings</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Eberhard</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <BLOCKQUOTE=20
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            <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><B>-----Urspr&uuml;ngliche=20
            Nachricht-----</B><BR><B>Von: </B>Micha=B3 Sejfried &lt;<A=20
            =
href=3D"mailto:42810730@pro.onet.pl">42810730@pro.onet.pl</A>&gt;<BR><B>A=
n:=20
            </B>Gfa mailing list &lt;<A=20
            =
href=3D"mailto:gfabasic@gfa.net">gfabasic@gfa.net</A>&gt;<BR><B>Datum:=20
            </B>Sonntag, 11. Juni 2000 17:20<BR><B>Betreff: =
</B>[gfabasic]=20
            Fonts<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
            <DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" size=3D2>Hi to All</FONT></DIV>
            <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
            <DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" size=3D2>Do you know, how I =
could get long=20
            name of selected font. eg:</FONT></DIV>
            <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
            <DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE"=20
            =
size=3D2>font$=3D&quot;C:\WINDOWS\FONTS\TIMES.TTF&quot;</FONT></DIV>
            <DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" size=3D2>FONT font$ WIDTH 12 =
HEIGHT 24=20
            WEIGHT 700</FONT></DIV>
            <DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" size=3D2>FONT to =
fnt&amp;</FONT></DIV>
            <DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" size=3D2>SETFONT =
fnt&amp;</FONT></DIV>
            <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
            <DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" size=3D2>It dosen't work, =
because font=20
            &quot;times.ttf&quot; doesn't exist. Long name of this font =
is Times=20
            New Roman. Whos know how I can get it.</FONT></DIV>
            <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
            <DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" size=3D2>Best =
Regards</FONT></DIV>
            <DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" size=3D2>Peter</FONT></DIV>
            <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
            <DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" size=3D2><A=20
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List Member "Russell Hayward" <russ@softhome.net> wrote:

Hi David,

> Ouch !  That's a lotta stuff !
> FILESELECT may not being as powerful but it surely
> is easier to use !  :)

If you can stand the change of directory, short names, bad implementation of
filters, network and read-only buttons then use FILESELECT. :-)

> There's an other way to do filebox too how do you
> do that and what is its name ?  For opening colors
> fonts etc.

You mean the other common dialogs, here's a small example:
OPENW #1

Col%=RGB(255,0,0)
DIM DefCols%(15)
DLG COLOR WIN(1),CC_FULLOPEN,DefCols%(),Col%
' Col%=Selected Colour

DLG PRINT WIN(1),PD_PRINTSETUP | PD_ALLPAGES,dc&
DLG PRINT WIN(1),PD_ALLPAGES,dc&
' dc&=The printer's DC

DLG FONT WIN(1),_DC(1),CF_SCREENFONTS
FONT TO fnt&
FREEFONT fnt&

CLOSEW #1

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Ah !  That's the one !
(recording in my notes)

The color selection is a little screwy did anyone
ever make a color wheel like Macintosh ?  The vertical
slidebar to show briteness/intensity is a little bit
of extra work.  Right now in Gred2000 I'm using
32 levels for R/G/B.  Not billions and billions of
colors but 32768.  Close enough for what I need.  :)

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> List Member "Russell Hayward" <russ@softhome.net>
> wrote:
> 
> Hi David,
> 
> > Ouch !  That's a lotta stuff !
> > FILESELECT may not being as powerful but it surely
> > is easier to use !  :)
> 
> If you can stand the change of directory, short
> names, bad implementation of
> filters, network and read-only buttons then use
> FILESELECT. :-)
> 
> > There's an other way to do filebox too how do you
> > do that and what is its name ?  For opening colors
> > fonts etc.
> 
> You mean the other common dialogs, here's a small
> example:
> OPENW #1
> 
> Col%=RGB(255,0,0)
> DIM DefCols%(15)
> DLG COLOR WIN(1),CC_FULLOPEN,DefCols%(),Col%
> ' Col%=Selected Colour
> 
> DLG PRINT WIN(1),PD_PRINTSETUP | PD_ALLPAGES,dc&
> DLG PRINT WIN(1),PD_ALLPAGES,dc&
> ' dc&=The printer's DC
> 
> DLG FONT WIN(1),_DC(1),CF_SCREENFONTS
> FONT TO fnt&
> FREEFONT fnt&
> 
> CLOSEW #1
> 
> HTH,
> Russell Hayward
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List Member Pat Bullman <pbullman@norex.com.au> wrote:
Does anyone know how to call the Common Dialogs directly.  That is, not
using DLG OPEN, DLG SAVE, etc


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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
I suppose it is next to impossible to make a common dlg look into hidden
& system dirs.  Sorta have to handle this by building from scratch, maybe.

Guys, Eberhard gave you what you want in a short routine.  I was getting there,
but in a much more involved manner.  I quit - use his.

Learning more about the comical differences in vernacular in the world of
English
speakers <G>.  What a difference a few miles & background can make!  Sorry,
Pat...
_N_O_T_ <GGGGGGG>!

I've a half a mind to, ... I donno - I can't find the other half this morning so
I donno what I'm doing.

Ciao
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Greets Pat:

There are two uncommon Dialogs  that don't
use the DLG command:

MESSAGE "Inside Text","Title Bar",Flags,RetValue

Flags can be 0 for simple OKAY button or
it can equal MB_YESNO which is a little harder cause
then you looking in RetValue which MUST be a variable
looking for constant IDYES or IDNO

Even if you aren't gonna look at RetValue, you MUST
put a variable there, like Z or it won't BLACK the
MESSAGE command saying you got error typed it

Message "Really?","Query",MB_YESNO,Q
IF Q = IDYES THEN {{do stuff for Yes}
IF Q = IDNO THEN {{do stuff for No}

- - -

There's a neat one I found recent called ALERT.

ALERT IconPic,Message$,Default,Choice$,RetValue

IconPic if > 0 gives a cute little Win98 picture
Message$ is a normal string but you use "|" separator
as a shortcut for [ENTER] in your text !

Default is the choice # defaulted, if 0 then none
Choice$ is a normal string and again use "|" separator
to have multiple choices!

RetValue is the Choice # you selected in it

ALERT 0,"Line1|Line2",0,"Super|No Way!",Z
IF Z = 1 THEN {{do stuff for Super!}}
IF Z = 2 THEN {{do stuff for No Way!}}

- - -

Hope this helps !

This can save you from doodling and going around
all kindsa coordinate dialog boxes stuff.

Sincerely,
David W.

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> using DLG OPEN, DLG SAVE, etc
> 
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Hi Pat,

> Does anyone know how to call the Common Dialogs directly.  That is, not
> using DLG OPEN, DLG SAVE, etc

You have to call the functions in commdlg.dll, I've attached an example of
GetOpenFileName.

HTH,
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hey Russell !

I'm =JUST= now getting around to using your
newest technique on WindowLock.

Very NICE I don't have to use three variables
just two !

And you are quite right that using STRING$ is
MUCH slower then using pointers, using pointers
only now..

MyGet H,V,X,Y,"crit"+CHR$(48+CritNo)
MyPut A,B,"crit0",0

Thanks !

Sincerely,
David W.

--- Russell Hayward <russ@softhome.net> wrote:
> 
> Hi Pat,
> 
> > Does anyone know how to call the Common Dialogs
> directly.  That is, not
> > using DLG OPEN, DLG SAVE, etc
> 
> You have to call the functions in commdlg.dll, I've
> attached an example of
> GetOpenFileName.
> 
> HTH,
> Russell Hayward
> 

> ATTACHMENT part 2 application/octet-stream
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Whos know how I could spectrum bar to left and right channel?


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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:

--- Micha=B3_Sejfried <42810730@pro.onet.pl> wrote:
> Hi to all
>=20
> Does anyone know how to write real time volume
> control during play wav or another sound files.
>=20
>=20
> Best Regards
> Peter

Yeaffers, I could use this info too !
Peter real quick, to change it manually in your
GFA music program:

SHELL "c:\sndvol32.exe"

On a different note, to get that fast key
repeat we all love in our GFA keyboard-only paint
programs:

SHELL "mode con: rate=3D31 delay=3D1"

Aggh !  I'm using SHELL !
Actually not.  I prefer EXEC which is 100%
much more stable but 100% of time shows a DOS
window which is FINE with me, since I've had =3DNO=3D
trouble with it compared to SHELL.

- - -
open "o",1,"_go.bat"
PRINT #1,"@echo off"
PRINT #1,"echo Just A Moment ..."
PRINT #1,"c:\sndvol32.exe"
PRINT #1,"cd>_dosdone.___"
CLOSE 1

DOSEXEC "_go.bat",""
DO
  PEEKEVENT
UNTIL EXIST("_go.bat")

TT =3D TIMER
WHILE TIMER - TT < 500
  IF TIMER < TT THEN TT =3D TIMER
  PEEKEVENT
WEND

KILL "_go.bat"
KILL "_dosdone.___"
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Hope This Helps !

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member Pat Bullman <pbullman@norex.com.au> wrote:
Thanks Russell,

This is what I want.  The only other thing now is what other attributes can
be used by ofn.Flags besides OFN_NOCHANGEDIR and OFN_HIDEREADONLY.

Pat

At 01:08 13/06/00 +0100, you wrote:
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>Hi Pat,
>
>> Does anyone know how to call the Common Dialogs directly.  That is, not
>> using DLG OPEN, DLG SAVE, etc
                                                                     >
>You have to call the functions in commdlg.dll, I've attached an example of
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OPENFILENAME (3.1)

typedef struct tagOPENFILENAME { /* ofn */
    DWORD     lStructSize;
    HWND      hwndOwner;
    HINSTANCE hInstance;
    LPCSTR    lpstrFilter;
    LPSTR     lpstrCustomFilter;
    DWORD     nMaxCustFilter;
    DWORD     nFilterIndex;
    LPSTR     lpstrFile;
    DWORD     nMaxFile;
    LPSTR     lpstrFileTitle;
    DWORD     nMaxFileTitle;
    LPCSTR    lpstrInitialDir;
    LPCSTR    lpstrTitle;
    DWORD     Flags;
    UINT      nFileOffset;
    UINT      nFileExtension;
    LPCSTR    lpstrDefExt;
    LPARAM    lCustData;
    UINT      (CALLBACK* lpfnHook) (HWND, UINT, WPARAM, LPARAM);

    LPCSTR    lpTemplateName;
} OPENFILENAME;

The OPENFILENAME structure contains information that the system uses to =
initialize the system-defined Open dialog box or Save dialog box. After =
the user chooses the OK button to close the dialog box, the system =
returns information about the user's selection in this structure.=20

Member Description

lStructSize
Specifies the length of the structure, in bytes. This member is filled =
on input.=20

hwndOwner
Identifies the window that owns the dialog box. This member can be any =
valid window handle, or it should be NULL if the dialog box is to have =
no owner.=20

If the OFN_SHOWHELP flag is set, hwndOwner must identify the window that =
owns the dialog box. The window procedure for this owner window receives =
a notification message when the user chooses the Help button. (The =
identifier for the notification message is the value returned by the =
RegisterWindowMessage function when HELPMSGSTRING is passed as its =
argument.)=20
This member is filled on input.=20

hInstance
Identifies a data block that contains a dialog box template specified by =
the lpTemplateName member. This member is used only if the Flags member =
specifies the OFN_ENABLETEMPLATE or the OFN_ENABLETEMPLATEHANDLE flag; =
otherwise, this member is ignored.=20

This member is filled on input.=20

lpstrFilter
Points to a buffer containing one or more pairs of null-terminated =
strings specifying filters. The first string in each pair describes a =
filter (for example, "Text Files"); the second specifies the filter =
pattern (for example, "*.txt"). Multiple filters can be specified for a =
single item; in this case, the semicolon (;) is used to separate filter =
pattern strings--for example, "*.txt;*.doc;*.bak". The last string in =
the buffer must be terminated by two null characters. If this parameter =
is NULL, the dialog box does not display any filters. The filter strings =
must be in the proper order--the system does not change the order.=20

This member is filled on input.=20

lpstrCustomFilter
Points to a buffer containing a pair of user-defined strings that =
specify a filter. These strings should be formatted in the same way as =
is described for the lpstrFilter member. The first string describes the =
filter and the second specifies the filter pattern (for example, =
"WinWord", "*.doc"). The buffer is terminated by two null characters. =
The system copies the strings from the File Name edit control to the =
buffer when the user chooses the OK button to close the dialog box.=20

If the nFilterIndex member is zero, the system uses the =
lpstrCustomFilter strings as the initial filter description and filter =
pattern for the dialog box. If the first string in the pair pointed to =
by lpstrCustomFilter is NULL (for example,  "", "*.doc"), only the =
strings pointed to by lpstrFilter are displayed in the List Files of =
Type listbox, but the last specified filter pattern is still passed to =
the second string location of lpstrCustomFilter.=20

nMaxCustFilter
Specifies the size, in bytes, of the buffer identified by the =
lpstrCustomFilter member. This buffer should be at least 40 bytes long. =
This parameter is ignored if the lpstrCustomFilter member is NULL.=20

This member is filled on input.=20

nFilterIndex
Specifies an index into the buffer pointed to by the lpstrFilter member. =
The system uses the index value to obtain a pair of strings to use as =
the initial filter description and filter pattern for the dialog box. =
The first pair of strings has an index value of 1. When the user chooses =
the OK button to close the dialog box, the system copies the index of =
the selected filter strings into this location. If the nFilterIndex =
member is 0, the filter in the buffer pointed to by the =
lpstrCustomFilter member is used. If the nFilterIndex member is 0 and =
the lpstrCustomFilter member is NULL, the system uses the first filter =
in the buffer pointed to by the lpstrFilter member. If each of the three =
members is either 0 or NULL, the system does not use any filters and =
does not show any files in the File Name list box of the dialog box.=20

lpstrFile
Points to a buffer that specifies a filename used to initialize the File =
Name edit control. If initialization is not necessary, the first =
character of this buffer must be NULL. When the GetOpenFileName or =
GetSaveFileName function returns, this buffer contains the complete =
location and name of the selected file.=20

If the buffer is too small, the dialog box procedure copies the required =
size into this member and returns 0. To retrieve the required size, cast =
the lpstrFile member to type LPWORD. The buffer must be at least three =
bytes to receive the required size. When the buffer is too small, the =
CommDlgExtendedError function returns the FNERR_BUFFERTOOSMALL value.=20

nMaxFile
Specifies the size, in bytes, of the buffer pointed to by the lpstrFile =
member. The GetOpenFileName and GetSaveFileName functions return FALSE =
if the buffer is too small to contain the file information. The buffer =
does not need to be larger than 128 bytes; lpstrFile entries longer than =
128 bytes are truncated. If the lpstrFile member is NULL, this member is =
ignored.=20

This member is filled on input.=20

lpstrFileTitle
Points to a buffer that receives the title of the selected file. This =
buffer receives the filename and extension but no path information. An =
application should use this string to display the file title. If this =
member is NULL, the function does not copy the file title. This member =
is filled on output.=20

nMaxFileTitle
Specifies the maximum length, in bytes, of the string that can be copied =
into the lpstrFileTitle buffer. This member is ignored if lpstrFileTitle =
is NULL. This member is filled on input.=20

lpstrInitialDir
Points to a string that specifies the initial file directory. If this =
member is NULL, the system uses the current directory as the initial =
directory. (If the lpstrFile member contains a string that specifies a =
valid path, the common dialog box procedure will use the path specified =
by this string instead of the path specified by the string to which =
lpstrInitialDir points.)=20

This member is filled on input.=20

lpstrTitle
Points to a string to be placed in the title bar of the dialog box. If =
this member is NULL, the system uses the default title (that is, Save As =
or Open). This member is filled on input.=20

Flags
Specifies the dialog box initialization flags. This member may be a =
combination of the following values:=20

Value Meaning

OFN_ALLOWMULTISELECT=20
Specifies that the File Name list box is to allow multiple selections. =
When this flag is set, the lpstrFile member points to a buffer =
containing the path to the current directory and all filenames in the =
selection. The first filename is separated from the path by a space. =
Each subsequent filename is separated by one space from the preceding =
filename. Some of the selected filenames may be preceded by relative =
paths; for example, the buffer could contain something like this:=20

c:\files file1.txt file2.txt ..\bin\file3.txt=20

OFN_CREATEPROMPT=20
Causes the dialog box procedure to generate a message box to notify the =
user when a specified file does not currently exist and to make it =
possible for the user to specify that the file should be created. (This =
flag automatically sets the OFN_PATHMUSTEXIST and OFN_FILEMUSTEXIST =
flags.)=20

OFN_ENABLEHOOK=20
Enables the hook function specified in the lpfnHook member.=20

OFN_ENABLETEMPLATE=20
Causes the system to use the dialog box template identified by the =
hInstance and lpTemplateName members to create the dialog box.=20

OFN_ENABLETEMPLATEHANDLE=20
Indicates that the hInstance member identifies a data block that =
contains a pre-loaded dialog box template. The system ignores the =
lpTemplateName member if this flag is specified.=20

OFN_EXTENSIONDIFFERENT=20
Indicates that the extension of the returned filename is different from =
the extension specified by the lpstrDefExt member. This flag is not set =
if lpstrDefExt is NULL, if the extensions match, or if the file has no =
extension. This flag can be set on output.=20

OFN_FILEMUSTEXIST=20
Specifies that the user can type only the names of existing files in the =
File Name edit control. If this flag is set and the user types an =
invalid filename in the File Name edit control, the dialog box procedure =
displays a warning in a message box. (This flag also causes the =
OFN_PATHMUSTEXIST flag to be set.)=20

OFN_HIDEREADONLY=20
Hides the Read Only check box.=20

OFN_NOCHANGEDIR=20
Forces the dialog box to reset the current directory to what it was when =
the dialog box was created.=20

OFN_NOREADONLYRETURN=20
Specifies that the file returned will not have the Read Only attribute =
set and will not be in a write-protected directory.=20

OFN_NOTESTFILECREATE=20
Specifies that the file will not be created before the dialog box is =
closed. This flag should be set if the application saves the file on a =
create-no-modify network share point. When an application sets this =
flag, the library does not check against write protection, a full disk, =
an open drive door, or network protection. Therefore, applications that =
use this flag must perform file operations carefully--a file cannot be =
reopened once it is closed.=20

OFN_NOVALIDATE=20
Specifies that the common dialog boxes will allow invalid characters in =
the returned filename. Typically, the calling application uses a hook =
function that checks the filename using the FILEOKSTRING registered =
message. If the text in the edit control is empty or contains nothing =
but spaces, the lists of files and directories are updated. If the text =
in the edit control contains anything else, the nFileOffset and =
nFileExtension members are set to values generated by parsing the text. =
No default extension is added to the text, nor is text copied to the =
lpstrFileTitle buffer.=20

If the value specified by the nFileOffset member is negative, the =
filename is invalid. If the value specified by nFileOffset is not =
negative, the filename is valid, and nFileOffset and nFileExtension can =
be used as if the OFN_NOVALIDATE flag had not been set.=20

OFN_OVERWRITEPROMPT=20
Causes the Save As dialog box to generate a message box if the selected =
file already exists. The user must confirm whether to overwrite the =
file.=20

OFN_PATHMUSTEXIST=20
Specifies that the user can type only valid paths. If this flag is set =
and the user types an invalid path in the File Name edit control, the =
dialog box procedure displays a warning in a message box.=20

OFN_READONLY=20
Causes the Read Only check box to be initially checked when the dialog =
box is created. When the user chooses the OK button to close the dialog =
box, the state of the Read Only check box is specified by this member. =
This flag can be set on input and output.=20

OFN_SHAREAWARE=20
Specifies that if a call to the OpenFile function has failed because of =
a network sharing violation, the error is ignored and the dialog box =
returns the given filename. If this flag is not set, the registered =
message for SHAREVISTRING is sent to the hook function, with a pointer =
to a null-terminated string for the path name in the lParam parameter. =
The hook function responds with one of the following values:=20

Value Meaning

OFN_SHAREFALLTHROUGH=20
Specifies that the filename is returned from the dialog box.=20

OFN_SHARENOWARN=20
Specifies no further action.=20

OFN_SHAREWARN=20
Specifies that the user receives the standard warning message for this =
error. (This is the same result as if there were no hook function.)=20


This flag may be set on output.=20

OFN_SHOWHELP=20
Causes the dialog box to show the Help push button. The hwndOwner must =
not be NULL if this option is specified.=20

These flags may be set when the structure is initialized, except where =
specified.=20

nFileOffset
Specifies a zero-based offset from the beginning of the path to the =
filename specified by the string in the buffer to which lpstrFile =
points. For example, if lpstrFile points to the string, =
"c:\dir1\dir2\file.ext", this member contains the value 13.=20

This member is filled on output.=20

nFileExtension
Specifies a zero-based offset from the beginning of the path to the =
filename extension specified by the string in the buffer to which =
lpstrFile points. For example, if lpstrFile points to the following =
string, "c:\dir1\dir2\file.ext", this member contains the value 18. If =
the user did not type an extension and lpstrDefExt is NULL, this member =
specifies an offset to the terminating null character. If the user typed =
a period (.) as the last character in the filename, this member is 0.=20

This member is filled on output.=20

lpstrDefExt=20
Points to a buffer that contains the default extension. The =
GetOpenFileName or GetSaveFileName function appends this extension to =
the filename if the user fails to enter an extension. If the filename =
with the default extension is not found, the GetOpenFileName or =
GetSaveFileName function attempts to find the file using the name =
exactly as the user typed it. This string can be any length, but only =
the first three characters are appended. The string should not contain a =
period (.). If this member is NULL and the user fails to type an =
extension, no extension is appended. This member is filled on input.=20

lCustData
Specifies application-defined data that the system passes to the hook =
function pointed to by the lpfnHook member. The system passes a pointer =
to the OPENFILENAME structure in the lParam parameter of the =
WM_INITDIALOG message; this pointer can be used to retrieve the =
lCustData member.=20

lpfnHook
Points to a hook function that processes messages intended for the =
dialog box. To enable the hook function, an application must specify the =
OFN_ENABLEHOOK flag in the Flags member; otherwise, the system ignores =
this structure member. The hook function must return zero to pass a =
message that it didn't process back to the dialog box procedure in =
COMMDLG.DLL. The hook function must return a nonzero value to prevent =
the dialog box procedure in COMMDLG.DLL from processing a message it has =
already processed.=20

This member is filled on input.=20

lpTemplateName
Points to a null-terminated string that specifies the name of the =
resource file for the dialog box template that is to be substituted for =
the dialog box template in COMMDLG.DLL. An application can use the =
MAKEINTRESOURCE macro for numbered dialog box resources. This member is =
used only if the Flags member specifies the OFN_ENABLETEMPLATE flag; =
otherwise, this member is ignored.=20

This member is filled on input.=20

See Also

GetOpenFileName, GetSaveFileName, MAKEINTRESOURCE=20


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<DIV><STRONG>OPENFILENAME (3.1)</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DCourier>typedef struct tagOPENFILENAME { /* ofn=20
*/<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; DWORD&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
lStructSize;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; HWND&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
hwndOwner;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; HINSTANCE =
hInstance;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
LPCSTR&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; lpstrFilter;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
LPSTR&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; lpstrCustomFilter;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
DWORD&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; nMaxCustFilter;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
DWORD&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; nFilterIndex;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
LPSTR&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; lpstrFile;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
DWORD&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; nMaxFile;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
LPSTR&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; lpstrFileTitle;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
DWORD&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; nMaxFileTitle;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
LPCSTR&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; lpstrInitialDir;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
LPCSTR&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; lpstrTitle;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
DWORD&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Flags;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
UINT&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; nFileOffset;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
UINT&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; nFileExtension;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =

LPCSTR&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; lpstrDefExt;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
LPARAM&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; lCustData;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
UINT&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; (CALLBACK* lpfnHook) (HWND, UINT, =
WPARAM,=20
LPARAM);</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DCourier>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; LPCSTR&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
lpTemplateName;<BR>} OPENFILENAME;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>The OPENFILENAME structure contains information that the system =
uses to=20
initialize the system-defined Open dialog box or Save dialog box. After =
the user=20
chooses the OK button to close the dialog box, the system returns =
information=20
about the user's selection in this structure. </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Member&nbsp;Description</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>lStructSize</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV>Specifies the length of the structure, in bytes. This member is =
filled on=20
input. <BR></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>hwndOwner</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV>Identifies the window that owns the dialog box. This member can be =
any=20
valid window handle, or it should be NULL if the dialog box is to have =
no owner.=20
</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>If the OFN_SHOWHELP flag is set, hwndOwner must identify the window =
that=20
owns the dialog box. The window procedure for this owner window receives =
a=20
notification message when the user chooses the Help button. (The =
identifier for=20
the notification message is the value returned by the =
RegisterWindowMessage=20
function when HELPMSGSTRING is passed as its argument.) <BR>This member =
is=20
filled on input. </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>hInstance</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV>Identifies a data block that contains a dialog box template =
specified by=20
the lpTemplateName member. This member is used only if the Flags member=20
specifies the OFN_ENABLETEMPLATE or the OFN_ENABLETEMPLATEHANDLE flag;=20
otherwise, this member is ignored. </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>This member is filled on input. </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>lpstrFilter</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV>Points to a buffer containing one or more pairs of null-terminated =
strings=20
specifying filters. The first string in each pair describes a filter =
(for=20
example, "Text Files"); the second specifies the filter pattern (for =
example,=20
"*.txt"). Multiple filters can be specified for a single item; in this =
case, the=20
semicolon (;) is used to separate filter pattern strings--for example,=20
"*.txt;*.doc;*.bak". The last string in the buffer must be terminated by =
two=20
null characters. If this parameter is NULL, the dialog box does not =
display any=20
filters. The filter strings must be in the proper order--the system does =
not=20
change the order. </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>This member is filled on input. </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>lpstrCustomFilter</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV>Points to a buffer containing a pair of user-defined strings that =
specify a=20
filter. These strings should be formatted in the same way as is =
described for=20
the lpstrFilter member. The first string describes the filter and the =
second=20
specifies the filter pattern (for example, "WinWord", "*.doc"). The =
buffer is=20
terminated by two null characters. The system copies the strings from =
the File=20
Name edit control to the buffer when the user chooses the OK button to =
close the=20
dialog box. </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>If the nFilterIndex member is zero, the system uses the =
lpstrCustomFilter=20
strings as the initial filter description and filter pattern for the =
dialog box.=20
If the first string in the pair pointed to by lpstrCustomFilter is NULL =
(for=20
example,&nbsp; "", "*.doc"), only the strings pointed to by lpstrFilter =
are=20
displayed in the List Files of Type listbox, but the last specified =
filter=20
pattern is still passed to the second string location of =
lpstrCustomFilter.=20
</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>nMaxCustFilter</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV>Specifies the size, in bytes, of the buffer identified by the=20
lpstrCustomFilter member. This buffer should be at least 40 bytes long. =
This=20
parameter is ignored if the lpstrCustomFilter member is NULL. </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>This member is filled on input. </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>nFilterIndex</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV>Specifies an index into the buffer pointed to by the lpstrFilter =
member.=20
The system uses the index value to obtain a pair of strings to use as =
the=20
initial filter description and filter pattern for the dialog box. The =
first pair=20
of strings has an index value of 1. When the user chooses the OK button =
to close=20
the dialog box, the system copies the index of the selected filter =
strings into=20
this location. If the nFilterIndex member is 0, the filter in the buffer =
pointed=20
to by the lpstrCustomFilter member is used. If the nFilterIndex member =
is 0 and=20
the lpstrCustomFilter member is NULL, the system uses the first filter =
in the=20
buffer pointed to by the lpstrFilter member. If each of the three =
members is=20
either 0 or NULL, the system does not use any filters and does not show =
any=20
files in the File Name list box of the dialog box. </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>lpstrFile</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV>Points to a buffer that specifies a filename used to initialize the =
File=20
Name edit control. If initialization is not necessary, the first =
character of=20
this buffer must be NULL. When the GetOpenFileName or GetSaveFileName =
function=20
returns, this buffer contains the complete location and name of the =
selected=20
file. </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>If the buffer is too small, the dialog box procedure copies the =
required=20
size into this member and returns 0. To retrieve the required size, cast =
the=20
lpstrFile member to type LPWORD. The buffer must be at least three bytes =
to=20
receive the required size. When the buffer is too small, the=20
CommDlgExtendedError function returns the FNERR_BUFFERTOOSMALL value. =
</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>nMaxFile</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV>Specifies the size, in bytes, of the buffer pointed to by the =
lpstrFile=20
member. The GetOpenFileName and GetSaveFileName functions return FALSE =
if the=20
buffer is too small to contain the file information. The buffer does not =
need to=20
be larger than 128 bytes; lpstrFile entries longer than 128 bytes are =
truncated.=20
If the lpstrFile member is NULL, this member is ignored. </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>This member is filled on input. </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>lpstrFileTitle</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV>Points to a buffer that receives the title of the selected file. =
This=20
buffer receives the filename and extension but no path information. An=20
application should use this string to display the file title. If this =
member is=20
NULL, the function does not copy the file title. This member is filled =
on=20
output. </DIV>
<DIV><BR><STRONG>nMaxFileTitle</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV>Specifies the maximum length, in bytes, of the string that can be =
copied=20
into the lpstrFileTitle buffer. This member is ignored if lpstrFileTitle =
is=20
NULL. This member is filled on input. </DIV>
<DIV><BR><STRONG>lpstrInitialDir</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV>Points to a string that specifies the initial file directory. If =
this=20
member is NULL, the system uses the current directory as the initial =
directory.=20
(If the lpstrFile member contains a string that specifies a valid path, =
the=20
common dialog box procedure will use the path specified by this string =
instead=20
of the path specified by the string to which lpstrInitialDir points.) =
</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>This member is filled on input. </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>lpstrTitle</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV>Points to a string to be placed in the title bar of the dialog box. =
If this=20
member is NULL, the system uses the default title (that is, Save As or =
Open).=20
This member is filled on input. </DIV>
<DIV><BR><STRONG>Flags</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV>Specifies the dialog box initialization flags. This member may be a =

combination of the following values: </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Value&nbsp;Meaning</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>OFN_ALLOWMULTISELECT&nbsp;</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV>Specifies that the File Name list box is to allow multiple =
selections. When=20
this flag is set, the lpstrFile member points to a buffer containing the =
path to=20
the current directory and all filenames in the selection. The first =
filename is=20
separated from the path by a space. Each subsequent filename is =
separated by one=20
space from the preceding filename. Some of the selected filenames may be =

preceded by relative paths; for example, the buffer could contain =
something like=20
this: </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>c:\files file1.txt file2.txt ..\bin\file3.txt </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>OFN_CREATEPROMPT&nbsp;</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV>Causes the dialog box procedure to generate a message box to notify =
the=20
user when a specified file does not currently exist and to make it =
possible for=20
the user to specify that the file should be created. (This flag =
automatically=20
sets the OFN_PATHMUSTEXIST and OFN_FILEMUSTEXIST flags.) </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>OFN_ENABLEHOOK&nbsp;</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV>Enables the hook function specified in the lpfnHook member. </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>OFN_ENABLETEMPLATE&nbsp;</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV>Causes the system to use the dialog box template identified by the=20
hInstance and lpTemplateName members to create the dialog box. </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>OFN_ENABLETEMPLATEHANDLE&nbsp;</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV>Indicates that the hInstance member identifies a data block that =
contains a=20
pre-loaded dialog box template. The system ignores the lpTemplateName =
member if=20
this flag is specified. </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>OFN_EXTENSIONDIFFERENT&nbsp;</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV>Indicates that the extension of the returned filename is different =
from the=20
extension specified by the lpstrDefExt member. This flag is not set if=20
lpstrDefExt is NULL, if the extensions match, or if the file has no =
extension.=20
This flag can be set on output. </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>OFN_FILEMUSTEXIST&nbsp;</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV>Specifies that the user can type only the names of existing files =
in the=20
File Name edit control. If this flag is set and the user types an =
invalid=20
filename in the File Name edit control, the dialog box procedure =
displays a=20
warning in a message box. (This flag also causes the OFN_PATHMUSTEXIST =
flag to=20
be set.) </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>OFN_HIDEREADONLY&nbsp;</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV>Hides the Read Only check box. </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>OFN_NOCHANGEDIR&nbsp;</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV>Forces the dialog box to reset the current directory to what it was =
when=20
the dialog box was created. </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>OFN_NOREADONLYRETURN&nbsp;</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV>Specifies that the file returned will not have the Read Only =
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box. To enable the hook function, an application must specify the =
OFN_ENABLEHOOK=20
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member.=20
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process back=20
to the dialog box procedure in COMMDLG.DLL. The hook function must =
return a=20
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macro for=20
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Hi!

I know that in SNDVOL32.EXE is real time volume bar, but I don't want to =
use windows application. I want to write my own volume bar to left and =
right channel, but I don't know how. Maybe is function which give during =
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
I have something that will need to be translated from VB, but will have to
find it again.  Patience <G>, I'm looking.
TomR.


At 05:28 AM 13/06/00 -0700, you wrote:
>List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>--- Micha=B3_Sejfried <42810730@pro.onet.pl> wrote:
>> Hi to all
>>=20
>> Does anyone know how to write real time volume
>> control during play wav or another sound files.
>>=20
>>=20
>> Best Regards
>> Peter
>
>Yeaffers, I could use this info too !

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List Member Engelbert van Loock <Engelbert.v@n.loock.com> wrote:
Peter,

this should work if your audio card supports mixing controls at all:


DLL #1,"mmsystem.dll"
  DECL WORD waveOutSetVolume(w,l)
ENDDLL
lftCh& = $FFFF  // $0000 - $FFFF
rgtCh& = $FFFF  // dto.
Volume% = MAKELONG(rgtCh&,lftCh&)
~@@waveOutSetVolume(-1,Volume%)
FREEDLL 1


It does the same as you can do with the SNDVOL32.EXE/wave input mixer
(opposite to the fader of the new mmplayer).

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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
UPDATE! gfawhelp.gfa.net

STRIPJPG.ZIP by Tom Record
Suite of 4 routines useful for making a 640x480 (can be changed) 24-bit
*.bmp into
24 strips 640x20 (can be changed) *.jpg using nviewl16.dll.  Original *.bmp
MUST BE
24-bit or the *.dll goes nuts!  The *.dll is NOT included here.

Purpose: Roland's minijpeg.lib will load these quite rapidly, meaning that a
large
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Okee Mr. Loock, doesn't seem to want to work ?
I guess I'm asking, if you change these:

lftCh& = $FFFF  // $0000 - $FFFF
rgtCh& = $FFFF  // dto.

lftCh& = $2000
rgtCh& = $2000

to a lower # should be lower volume right ?
No change here..

Thanks again for the COOL Star Trek music tho !  :)

Sincerely,
David W.

--- Engelbert van Loock <Engelbert.v@n.Loock.com>
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> List Member Engelbert van Loock
> <Engelbert.v@n.loock.com> wrote:
> Peter,
> 
> this should work if your audio card supports mixing
> controls at all:
> 
> 
> DLL #1,"mmsystem.dll"
>   DECL WORD waveOutSetVolume(w,l)
> ENDDLL
> lftCh& = $FFFF  // $0000 - $FFFF
> rgtCh& = $FFFF  // dto.
> Volume% = MAKELONG(rgtCh&,lftCh&)
> ~@@waveOutSetVolume(-1,Volume%)
> FREEDLL 1
> 
> 
> It does the same as you can do with the
> SNDVOL32.EXE/wave input mixer
> (opposite to the fader of the new mmplayer).
> 
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From: Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: [gfabasic] volume.zip (8.06k)
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
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VB project to set volume from within appl.
TomR.

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Hi

I've many 16-bit dlls. Does anyone know how I could get information =
(from dll) how many and how parameters the dll has?
I don't know what to write in DECL.

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Hi

Does anyone know why is Peek / Poke? Which parameters are bad?


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List Member Pat Bullman <pbullman@norex.com.au> wrote:
Peter,

I'd say the error is because you have not zero terminated the string you
are passing.  That is:

name$ = "C:\WINDOWS\MEDIA\ADIOS.WAV"

should be

name$ = "C:\WINDOWS\MEDIA\ADIOS.WAV" + CHR$(0)

The DLL procedure that receives the string, does not know when the string
ends!


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>   Hi   Does anyone know why is Peek / Poke? Which  parameters are bad?    
>Best Regards Peter   42810730@pro.onet.pl  Attachment Converted:
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List Member =?iso-8859-1?Q?Micha=B3_Sejfried?= <42810730@pro.onet.pl> wrote:
Hi Pat.

I added CHR$(0) but it doesn't work.
If you have DLL which I sent in last mail (MSND_WAV.DLL) please check what
is wrong.

Best regards
Peter


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> List Member Pat Bullman <pbullman@norex.com.au> wrote:
> Peter,
>
> I'd say the error is because you have not zero terminated the string you
> are passing.  That is:
>
> name$ = "C:\WINDOWS\MEDIA\ADIOS.WAV"
>
> should be
>
> name$ = "C:\WINDOWS\MEDIA\ADIOS.WAV" + CHR$(0)
>
> The DLL procedure that receives the string, does not know when the string
> ends!
>
>
> At 11:59 14/06/00 +0200, you wrote:
> >   Hi   Does anyone know why is Peek / Poke? Which  parameters are bad?
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List Member Engelbert van Loock <Engelbert.v@n.loock.com> wrote:
> I guess I'm asking, if you change these:
> 
> lftCh& = $FFFF  // $0000 - $FFFF
> rgtCh& = $FFFF  // dto.
> 
> lftCh& = $2000
> rgtCh& = $2000
> 
> to a lower # should be lower volume right ?
Right! &FFFF is the highest level, &0000 is silence.

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Geesh !  That's a lotta code !

Tom can that be broken down to something like:

DLL #1,"mmsystem.dll"
  DECL WORD SetGlobalVolume(W)
ENDDLL
~@@SetGlobalVolume(127)
FREEDLL 1

That would be much easier.
Thanks !

Sincerely,
David W.

--- Tom Record
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> VB project to set volume from within appl.
> TomR.
> 

> ATTACHMENT part 2 application/octet-stream
name=VOLUME.ZIP; x-mac-type=42494E41;
x-mac-creator=6D646F73



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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:

--- Micha=B3_Sejfried <42810730@pro.onet.pl> wrote:
> Hi
>=20
> Does anyone know why is Peek / Poke? Which
> parameters are bad?

Greets Peter:

If you are asking what PEEK and POKE are, they are
ways to jiggle around your computer internally.

GFA is pretty smart so it gives back a:

Peek/Poke/Call Address Error

If you use POKE where you shouldn't.
POKE changes the contents while PEEK reads them
back.

Type out "V:" directly in GFABasic and then hit
[SHIFT] [F1] to bring up HELP to see more on
these two useful commands.

Hope This Helps !

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Right! &FFFF is the highest level, &0000 is silence.
> 
> Engelbert

Well >Blink!< it don't work !  :)
I tried all kindsa #s &FFFF &0000 &1234 &0034
no change at all.

Is there another way for different sound cards ?

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I try to use V: and Varptr() and peek(v:(name$))

nothing doesn't work!!!  Maybe DECL function is wrong? When I downloaded =
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from Internet how I can use it if I don't know their params?

Peter.



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> List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> --- Micha=B3_Sejfried <42810730@pro.onet.pl> wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > Does anyone know why is Peek / Poke? Which
> > parameters are bad?
>
> Greets Peter:
>
> If you are asking what PEEK and POKE are, they are
> ways to jiggle around your computer internally.
>
> GFA is pretty smart so it gives back a:
>
> Peek/Poke/Call Address Error
>
> If you use POKE where you shouldn't.
> POKE changes the contents while PEEK reads them
> back.
>
> Type out "V:" directly in GFABasic and then hit
> [SHIFT] [F1] to bring up HELP to see more on
> these two useful commands.
>
> Hope This Helps !
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> Sincerely,
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List Member "Eberhard Funck" <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de> wrote:
Hi Peter,

If you have the DLL only, without the description
about function with their parameters, you must search
to a C-Header file for this DLL, or you can forget it.
Nobody can and do to work with a DLL without descriptions.
Thats the way.

To the sprectrum bar:
You think, that anywhere had write one??
Or have you the meaning, that another programmer
make your work.
If you want have a sprectrum bar, than draw it for yourself.
Create a Static control with the ownerdraw style and draw in
the control Callback function your bar in this control.
Than you a free for doing all you want and need.
If you don't know, how it works, than look at Dales web pages.
There you find many demos for all kind of ownerdraw controls.

Eberhard

-----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----
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An: gfabasic@gfa.net <gfabasic@gfa.net>
Datum: Mittwoch, 14. Juni 2000 18:17
Betreff: [gfabasic] Odp: msnd.dll


|List Member =3D?iso-8859-1?Q?Micha=3DB3_Sejfried?=3D <42810730@pro.onet.=
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wrote:
|I try to use V: and Varptr() and peek(v:(name$))
|
|nothing doesn't work!!!  Maybe DECL function is wrong? When I downloaded
dll
|from Internet how I can use it if I don't know their params?
|
|Peter.
|
|
|
|----- Original Message -----
|From: David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com>
|To: <gfabasic@gfa.net>
|Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2000 5:18 PM
|Subject: Re: [gfabasic] msnd.dll
|
|
|> List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
|>
|> --- Micha=B3_Sejfried <42810730@pro.onet.pl> wrote:
|> > Hi
|> >
|> > Does anyone know why is Peek / Poke? Which
|> > parameters are bad?
|>
|> Greets Peter:
|>
|> If you are asking what PEEK and POKE are, they are
|> ways to jiggle around your computer internally.
|>
|> GFA is pretty smart so it gives back a:
|>
|> Peek/Poke/Call Address Error
|>
|> If you use POKE where you shouldn't.
|> POKE changes the contents while PEEK reads them
|> back.
|>
|> Type out "V:" directly in GFABasic and then hit
|> [SHIFT] [F1] to bring up HELP to see more on
|> these two useful commands.
|>
|> Hope This Helps !
|>
|> Sincerely,
|> David W.
|>
|> __________________________________________________
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|> Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints!
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Hi Eberhard

What is C-Header?

The C-Header is inside the DLL file or is it another file with informatio=
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about parameters?

Best Regards
Peter


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> List Member "Eberhard Funck" <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de> wrote:
> Hi Peter,
>
> If you have the DLL only, without the description
> about function with their parameters, you must search
> to a C-Header file for this DLL, or you can forget it.
> Nobody can and do to work with a DLL without descriptions.
> Thats the way.
>
> To the sprectrum bar:
> You think, that anywhere had write one??
> Or have you the meaning, that another programmer
> make your work.
> If you want have a sprectrum bar, than draw it for yourself.
> Create a Static control with the ownerdraw style and draw in
> the control Callback function your bar in this control.
> Than you a free for doing all you want and need.
> If you don't know, how it works, than look at Dales web pages.
> There you find many demos for all kind of ownerdraw controls.
>
> Eberhard
>
> -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Micha=B3 Sejfried <42810730@pro.onet.pl>
> An: gfabasic@gfa.net <gfabasic@gfa.net>
> Datum: Mittwoch, 14. Juni 2000 18:17
> Betreff: [gfabasic] Odp: msnd.dll
>
>
> |List Member =3D?iso-8859-1?Q?Micha=3DB3_Sejfried?=3D <42810730@pro.one=
t.pl>
> wrote:
> |I try to use V: and Varptr() and peek(v:(name$))
> |
> |nothing doesn't work!!!  Maybe DECL function is wrong? When I download=
ed
> dll
> |from Internet how I can use it if I don't know their params?
> |
> |Peter.
> |
> |
> |
> |----- Original Message -----
> |From: David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com>
> |To: <gfabasic@gfa.net>
> |Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2000 5:18 PM
> |Subject: Re: [gfabasic] msnd.dll
> |
> |
> |> List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> |>
> |> --- Micha=B3_Sejfried <42810730@pro.onet.pl> wrote:
> |> > Hi
> |> >
> |> > Does anyone know why is Peek / Poke? Which
> |> > parameters are bad?
> |>
> |> Greets Peter:
> |>
> |> If you are asking what PEEK and POKE are, they are
> |> ways to jiggle around your computer internally.
> |>
> |> GFA is pretty smart so it gives back a:
> |>
> |> Peek/Poke/Call Address Error
> |>
> |> If you use POKE where you shouldn't.
> |> POKE changes the contents while PEEK reads them
> |> back.
> |>
> |> Type out "V:" directly in GFABasic and then hit
> |> [SHIFT] [F1] to bring up HELP to see more on
> |> these two useful commands.
> |>
> |> Hope This Helps !
> |>
> |> Sincerely,
> |> David W.
> |>
> |> __________________________________________________
> |> Do You Yahoo!?
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--- Engelbert van Loock <Engelbert.v@n.Loock.com>
wrote:
> List Member Engelbert van Loock
> <Engelbert.v@n.loock.com> wrote:
> > Well >Blink!< it don't work !  :)
> > I tried all kindsa #s &FFFF &0000 &1234 &0034
> > no change at all.
> > 
> > Is there another way for different sound cards ?
> Maybe your sound card does not support this
> function. Sorry.
> 
> Engelbert

Huum ??

Well if Win98 can do it so can we right ??
We're not gonna let old Windows put this one over
on us right ??  :)

Sincerely,
David W.

Dungeon2 is coming along QUITE well !
Russell quick question, can I run out of memory
by GETTING and PUTTING several hundred blocks even
if I free them at the end and rerun again ?

I'm wondering if windows is slow to give back the
memory or something..  If this is the case, then I
can store the sprite/tile page literally as, just
that,
a page instead of several hundred convenient Get/Put
variables..

Please let me know !
Thanks !

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Greets Peter:

Here's a quick example:

DEFINT "A-Z"
A$ =3D "Cindy"
POKE V:A$ + 1,ASC("a")
PRINT A$
KEYGET z
CLOSEW #1

This shows is that Cindy is made out of Candy,
but of course we knew that anyways !  :)

Hope This Helps !

Sincerely,
David W.

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>=20
> nothing doesn't work!!!  Maybe DECL function is
> wrong? When I downloaded dll
> from Internet how I can use it if I don't know their
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Greets Peter:

Yah they're over my head most times too anyways !  :)

If you wanna draw a nice colorbar can do:

- - -
DEFINT "A-Z"
OPENW #1,_X \ 2 - 200,_Y \ 2 - 150,400,300,0
PBOX 0,0,_X,_Y
X =3D 200,Y =3D 150
FOR I =3D 0 TO 255 STEP 2
  RGBCOLOR RGB(255 - I,0,I)
  LINE X - 25,Y - 128 + I,X + 25,Y - 128 + I
NEXT I
KEYGET Z
CLOSEW #1
- - -

It's similar what I'm working on nice pop-up
menu background for Dungeon=B2 game windows.

Hope This Helps !

Sincerely,
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> What is C-Header?
>=20
> The C-Header is inside the DLL file or is it another
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> about parameters?
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List Member "Russell Hayward" <russ@softhome.net> wrote:
Hi David,

> Russell quick question, can I run out of memory
> by GETTING and PUTTING several hundred blocks even
> if I free them at the end and rerun again ?
>
> I'm wondering if windows is slow to give back the
> memory or something..  If this is the case, then I
> can store the sprite/tile page literally as, just
> that, a page instead of several hundred convenient Get/Put
> variables..

As long as you free everything you get then you can't go wrong. One large
bitmap is probably the quicker way to do it, you then can keep it selected
into a DC all the time and just BITBLT to the screen. This is what  PUT does
but as far as I can tell it creates a new DC, BITBLTs it and then frees the
DC, it is definately slower than BITBLT on it's own. It could be that it is
getting the size of the bitmap too, which would take some time.

HTH,
Russell Hayward
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Well..  I keep crashing getting OUT OF MEMORY

I'm doing this to get a block:

FREEBMP BMP
BMP = 0
GET H,V,X,Y,BMP
PUT A,B,BMP
FREEBMP
BMP = 0

Yes, all =6= lines cause it seems to need it.
It may be faster in the long run just to BITBLT
the sections I need instead of doing what I'm
doing now.  I'll need to make a sprite coordinate
setter and namer tho.  (Guess that's next!)

Rats...  Gotta backtrack a fair bit.. Okay..

LoadTileCoords "dungeon2"

MyPut A,B,"Critter3"
<< lookup for Critter3 exact position, coordinates,
   and size across and down >>

There's a STRETCH BITBLT too so I can use that
instead of STRETCH.

Russell, is BITBLT faster then both GET A$ or
Get Ptr& then ?

Sincerely,
David W.

Also, I have your newest WindowLock as follows:

- - -
MaxDC=3 ' Yield 4 virtual pages
DIM NewDC(MaxDC),BMPDC(MaxDC)
FOR I=0 TO MaxDC
  NewDC(I) = MEMDC(_DC(1))
  BMPDC(I) = CREATEBMP(_X,_Y)
  SETBMP NewDC(I),BMPDC(I)
  SETDC NewDC(I)
  GRAPHMODE ,TRANSPARENT
  DEFFILL 0
NEXT I
- - -

and to release them:

FOR I=0 TO MaxDC
  FREEDC NewDC(I)
  FREEBMP BMPDC(I)
NEXT I
~~~~~~~~~~~~~
These 4 lines only, correct ?

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> List Member "Russell Hayward" <russ@softhome.net>
> wrote:
> Hi David,
> 
> > Russell quick question, can I run out of memory
> > by GETTING and PUTTING several hundred blocks even
> > if I free them at the end and rerun again ?
> >
> > I'm wondering if windows is slow to give back the
> > memory or something..  If this is the case, then I
> > can store the sprite/tile page literally as, just
> > that, a page instead of several hundred convenient
> Get/Put
> > variables..
> 
> As long as you free everything you get then you
> can't go wrong. One large
> bitmap is probably the quicker way to do it, you
> then can keep it selected
> into a DC all the time and just BITBLT to the
> screen. This is what  PUT does
> but as far as I can tell it creates a new DC,
> BITBLTs it and then frees the
> DC, it is definately slower than BITBLT on it's own.
> It could be that it is
> getting the size of the bitmap too, which would take
> some time.
> 
> HTH,
> Russell Hayward
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Okay !  I did it and I certainly wouldn't want to
be forced to write code this complex every day !

This is what I keyed in manually, it's actually
pretty easy.  I know -- I should write a program so
I can picture select them all well anyways this
works ..

char,0,0,25,1,16,16
face,352,32,0,3,64,64
bg,288,32,0,3,64,64
fireball,0,32,3,0
spikes,128,32,3,0
pyramax,0,64,1,0
save,64,64,1,0
wall,256,32,0,1
player,0,96,7,1
armor,0,160,7,1
drop,256,192
floor,256,224
chest,256,256
critter,0,224,3,0
man,128,224,3,0
mage,0,256,3,0
princess,128,256,3,0
color,128,64,4,1,16,16

This translates into a string 2671 bytes long !
Why ??
Well the 1st is name I call it,
2nd is Left-X where its at
3rd is top-Y where its at
(optional after this)
4th is # across
5th is # down
(optional #2 after this)
6th is Size across
7th is Size down

If there is no 4/5/6/7 then its 1 tile 32x32 size
If there is no 6/7 then its a 32x32 size tiles

My little string demon goes in and makes like for
critter for instance

critter,0,224,32,32 critter1,32,224,32,32
critter2,64,224,32,32 critter3,96,224,32,32

Much MUCH bigger then my script but its super
easy to extract that out of a fat string for
each tile,

natch for the Chars there are 52 total meaning
the string has coords for all 52 Char tiles along
sides everything else.  :)

PutTile "mage3",X,Y,zz

zz
0=SRCCOPY
1=SRCAND
2=SRCPAINT

(WHEW!)  That was a lotta work !

Oh and YES if you do GET/PUT a gazillion times even
with the right memory pointers and FREEBMP you ALWAYS
will crash windows after about a hour of this
hard torture to pushing/pulling memory, :/

BITBLT works perfect every time, thanks for the info
Russell and =NOW= (not before but now) its easier
programming those gazillion doodle graphics !

Sincerely,
David W.

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> As long as you free everything you get then you
> can't go wrong. One large
> bitmap is probably the quicker way to do it, you
> then can keep it selected
> into a DC all the time and just BITBLT to the
> screen. This is what  PUT does
> but as far as I can tell it creates a new DC,
> BITBLTs it and then frees the
> DC, it is definately slower than BITBLT on it's own.
> It could be that it is
> getting the size of the bitmap too, which would take
> some time.
> 
> HTH,
> Russell Hayward



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> can I run out of memory
> by GETTING and PUTTING several hundred blocks even
> if I free them at the end and rerun again ?

Hi David,

Since GET and PUT use strings, it may help use ~FRE(0) to force a GFA
garbage collection after each call  (or every n calls). to GET or PUT. =


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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Greets Brent:

Huuum...

That may be the best idea yet but I've got my
tote of tiles running in a hidden DC so I can
use BITBLT to my heart's content to get them out
(see GetCoords earlier)..

I had to wait all most 2 seconds to initialize
earlier every time I run now it runs instantly.
More work to manage tile stuff but worth it in
long run !  :)

Sincerely,
David W.

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> > can I run out of memory
> > by GETTING and PUTTING several hundred blocks even
> > if I free them at the end and rerun again ?
> 
> Hi David,
> 
> Since GET and PUT use strings, it may help use
> ~FRE(0) to force a GFA
> garbage collection after each call  (or every n
> calls). to GET or PUT. 
> 
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How I can get information about length of MIDI, AVI, MPG files (in =
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>From two months I'm writeing a Multimedia Show It. I thing that I'll =
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Gee Peter you're asking a awful lotta questions !
:)

I was reading the MIDI length in my Jukebox,
check it out:

MidiLen =3D VAL(MCI$("status mid length"))

Hope This Helps !

Sincerely,
David W.

Geesh Peter just what are you working on anyways !
Upload a copy so we can all see okee ?  :)

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> How I can get information about length of MIDI, AVI,
> MPG files (in seconds)?
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> From two months I'm writeing a Multimedia Show It. I
> thing that I'll finish it for about one or two weeks
> and then I'll send it to Dale's Page.
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> OoOops ! <

Sorry Peter, you just mentioned what you're
writing.  :)

Okay well if its gonna be REALLY cool you gotta need
look inside PKZIPs too cause that's where I keep all
my WAVs and MIDs !

.MID -> .MDZ
.WAV -> .WVZ

Sincerely,
David W.

On Dungeon2, I see now I will want to make a cinema
maker program, work on fine 32x32 grids but allow
partial incomplete steps as well as jumping critters,
"shocked" players, and furious critters.  :)

sample is very poor compared to animation scripting
I need to write.

Does use ISOLATI sprite plotting tho should be
very fast !

http://www.geocities.com/dw817/product/dungeon2.zip
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David W.

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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
UPDATE - GFAWHELP - GFA16

SCREFX1.ZIP by Tom Record
[ This is a fun! one, don't miss it!

Aimed at the beginning programmer who wants to play with screensavers.  This
sample covers only 8 slide effects & if compiled, will make only an *.exe.

8 basic slide effects for screensavers, etc.  Mouse & keyboard reactive.
1) left to right
2) top left to bottom right
3) top down
4) top right to bottom left
5) right to left
6) bottom right to top left
7) bottom up
8) bottom left to top right

Timing is set to 1/10 sec, each move.  Only 8) actually has an offset in
it -
can be adjusted to start in corner or end in corner.  All even numbered efxs
can be offset for better display.  You can really go wild with these!

Image supplied, 640x480.bmp @ 8-bit is ultra-generic, should offend NO ONE!

Loops can be added in each routine to accomodate small images.  I used only
one in this sample to make things easier.  It will shut itself off after one
full cycle of the effects.  A GOTO can make it recycle, or the whole thing
can be rewritten to make the accomodation.


dale

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Hi to All

I saw fine program wrote in DELPHI which could show pictures. Is one =
problem: Author of program using TYPE and I don't know how I can =
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TYPE XXX =3D record or TYPE XXX =3D packed record.   what is record or =
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Can print text to screen in a pre-determined position.
Can save as .bmp that same area, but contains only the background.
The text, plainly visible onscreen, is NOT in the saved *.bmp.

Am playing w/ schrift.gfw, among other routines.  Am attempting
to generate an appl capable of saving any font as *.bmps to be
used somewhat like David did but I'm not capable of generating
the font files he does.

Anybody wanna tackle this?  Would be appreciated.
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List Member Doyle Whisenant <mechanic@sonet.net> wrote:
> Micha=B3 Sejfried wrote:
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> Hi to All
>=20
> I saw fine program wrote in DELPHI which could show pictures. Is one
> problem: Author of program using TYPE and I don't know how I can
> translate it to GFA Basic. eg:
>=20
> TYPE XXX =3D record or TYPE XXX =3D packed record.   what is record or =
packed record

This is a structure.

> Header : String[3];         I think that String[3] =3D (in GFA)      -

This is an array of 3 i.e. String[0], String[1], and String[3]

> CHAR*3 Header                       (can you tell me if I think good

?? Not sure on this one!

> or no)
> Data : real;               What is real

This is the same as a float (floating point number) in "C".

> Error : Boolean         What is Boolean

Only two states, TRUE or FALSE
=20
> and how I can do:
>=20
> Reserved: array[1..50] of byte                     I tried:     - BYTE

This is an array of 49 bytes. (usually starts from 0)


> DIM Reserved(50)      but it doesn't work
>=20

Sorry Peter, I don't have a clue how to do this in GFA!

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Greets Peter:

I have received your two BIG packages in EMail !
Aieee !!  Is it just ME that writes small stuff ?  :)

You're asking for a smidge of help so I'll poke
thru it and see what I can do for ya.
(all 500k pkziped of it!)

Peter real quick, REAL variables are made in
GFA with a # (pound sign) after them and a
BOOLEAN variable with a ! (exclamation mark)
after them.

REAL variables contain decimal numbers,
10/4 = 2.5  but in standard integers 10/4 = 2 with
a remainder of 2 since 2*4=8 + 2 =10.
                               ^
RealNo#=25.678


Booleans are very simple.  They are either on or
off, 0 (zero) or 1 (one) .  In GFA, if it is on,
it is returned back as a -1 (negative one), not a
positive one don't forget like I did !

BooleanNo!=-1
Flag!=0

Peter, it is difficult and almost impossible to
convert
one computer language to an other.  Often times I
wind up writing my own routines for everything and
feel a lot better because I have a keen understanding
of exactly what I wrote rather then relying on a
possibly no correcting translation of prior coding.

To give you an example, I writing every program from
scratch.  There is no code in Dungeon I borrow or
paste from to put in Dungeon 2.  I feel =MUCH= better
rewriting everything because it all gets a bit better
in my head after a long period of repetition typing.

There are exceptions but if I'm shooting for IMPROVING
what I've all ready written then I feel better about
rewriting all of it from scratch.

Complex issues like menus and some string handling
I do borrow from my own coding.

Natch Father's Day is just new pix, new music, and
new one wav file running in Mom's Day Music Engine.
:)

Hope This Helps !

- - -
GFA Homepage Updates: (June 16th, 2000)

+ Happy Father's Day, I wrote Classic Melodies
  available for download in YEO GFAToys
+ Added Dungeon as Playtoy avail. for download
+ Added sneak peek Dungeon2 as Playtoy GFA
+ Added 2 new sources in GFA Harvest
+ Finalized GFA Mini-Compiler with instruct manual

* Powerpuff Girls Shrine is underway !
  (I'm gonna have Rose help me with this one)

Check it out !  :)

Sincerely,
David W.
http://www.geocities.com/dw817

> Hi to All
> 
> I saw fine program wrote in DELPHI which could show
> pictures. Is one problem: Author of program using
> TYPE and I don't know how I can translate it to GFA
> Basic. eg:
> 
> TYPE XXX = record or TYPE XXX = packed record.  
> what is record or packed record
> 
> Header : String[3];         I think that String[3] =
> (in GFA)      - CHAR*3 Header                      
> (can you tell me if I think good or no)
> Data : real;               What is real
> Error : Boolean         What is Boolean
> 
> and how I can do:
> 
> Reserved: array[1..50] of byte                     I
> tried:     - BYTE DIM Reserved(50)      but it
> doesn't work
> 
> ENDTYPE
> 
> 
> Best Regards
> Peter
> 


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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
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Greets Tom:

I have this to offer what my Dad once said.

"There's nothing new under the sun."

Which means sooner or later you WILL get around
to writing stuff just like I do, and vice-versa
tho I won't learn anything unless it's gotta good
spark like Candy Thunder.

Real quick (and please don't write back goofy say this
finalized what you already knew, just say Thanks
David and doodle with it!)  :)

GFA has very nice variable type called BOOLEAN
there's two O's in BOOLEAN so you can think of them
as eyes (o)(o), one is open or the other like closing
one eye.  It supposing to mean 0 (zero) or 1 (one)
but GFA is screwballing about it so it's
-1 (negative one), like a cat's eye with its right
eye closed (its right, not your right)

To make a boolean array do the following:
DIM Box!(7,7)

which makes a neat little 2-bit box 8x8 in size.
>From there, put in a value of -1 or 0 to each of
them, when you all done you got nice 2-bit data !

0 - - # # # # - -
1 - # # - - # # -
2 - # # - - # # -
3 - # # - - # # - The letter "A!"
4 - # # # # # # -
5 - # # - - # # -
6 - # # - - # # -
7 - - - - - - - -
0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7

This is how I stored my fonts one itty bitty BIT
at a time.  Remember all this DLL and library stuff
is too hard for my head so I do things one DOT at
a time.  :)

Make a doodle program use mouse or arrow keys to pop
light those little bits and its much easier to
playing with.

Hope This Helps !

Tom, if you wanna help =ME= please let me know how
to do a PKUNZIP with either my PKUNZJR or some DLL
stuff to do it.  I'm work all so on my RPG Generator
and I've got like 500 PKZIPed MIDIs each less then
2k want a LOT of those in there so bad but un PKZIPed,

[enclosed]
Remember I use extension ".mdz" to mean PKZIPed
MIDI that's all, one .MID file is inside each
.MDZ PKZIPed file.

some are bigger then 30k unpacked not good !
Searching ZIP: STEPIN~1.MDZ

 Length  Method   Size  Ratio   Date    Time    CRC-32
 Attr  Name
 ------  ------   ----- -----   ----    ----  
-------- ----  ----
  31827  DeflatX   1662  95%  01-31-97  13:41 
466d6a08 --w-  STEPIN~1.MID
 ------          ------  ---                          
       -------
  31827            1662  95%                          
             1
^ It compressed 95 % !!


I WANT PKUNZIP FOR GFA !  :/

I want the whole system to be maybe a tad bigger
then a meg but the games it writes are TINY TINY
no bigger then 32k max for entire world building
and complex script data, mapping, flags, items and
weapons armor spells events, NPCs, sprites,
tile placements, and character generation.

They'd all be TINY but I gotta have that PKZIP &
PKUNZIP for GFA..

Oh yah and I don't wanna do SHELL or EXEC to UNZIP
cause it that messes up sometime.

Sincerely,
David W.

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> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Can print text to screen in a pre-determined
> position.
> Can save as .bmp that same area, but contains only
> the background.
> The text, plainly visible onscreen, is NOT in the
> saved *.bmp.
> 
> Am playing w/ schrift.gfw, among other routines.  Am
> attempting
> to generate an appl capable of saving any font as
> *.bmps to be
> used somewhat like David did but I'm not capable of
> generating
> the font files he does.
> 
> Anybody wanna tackle this?  Would be appreciated.
> <G>
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List Member "Russell Hayward" <russ@softhome.net> wrote:

Hi David,

> Tom, if you wanna help =ME= please let me know how
> to do a PKUNZIP with either my PKUNZJR or some DLL
> stuff to do it.  I'm work all so on my RPG Generator
> and I've got like 500 PKZIPed MIDIs each less then
> 2k want a LOT of those in there so bad but un PKZIPed,

The best one I've seen was converted to GFA by Roland Walter, it is in a zip
called UnZip-DLL on his download page:
http://www.rowalt.de/gfabasic/lists.htm

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
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>To make a boolean array do the following:
>DIM Box!(7,7)
>
>which makes a neat little 2-bit box 8x8 in size.
>From there, put in a value of -1 or 0 to each of
>them, when you all done you got nice 2-bit data !
>
>0 - - # # # # - -
>1 - # # - - # # -
>2 - # # - - # # -
>3 - # # - - # # - The letter "A!"
>4 - # # # # # # -
>5 - # # - - # # -
>6 - # # - - # # -
>7 - - - - - - - -
>0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7
>
>This is how I stored my fonts one itty bitty BIT
>at a time.  Remember all this DLL and library stuff
>is too hard for my head so I do things one DOT at
>a time.  :)
>
>Make a doodle program use mouse or arrow keys to pop
>light those little bits and its much easier to
>playing with.
>
>Hope This Helps !
>

David
am playing w/ letting the computer do'em.  I print the alphabet, numbers &
punctuation in various sizes & run a vertical scan across, marking the points
where a pixel is used.

>
>Tom, if you wanna help =ME= please let me know how
>to do a PKUNZIP with either my PKUNZJR or some DLL
>stuff to do it.  I'm work all so on my RPG Generator
>and I've got like 500 PKZIPed MIDIs each less then
>2k want a LOT of those in there so bad but un PKZIPed,
>

The best I can do for you is to send you the source for the routine & the *.dll.
You should be able to follow it.
TomR.

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:

--- Russell Hayward <russ@softhome.net> wrote:
> List Member "Russell Hayward" <russ@softhome.net>
> wrote:
> 
> Hi David,
> 
> > Tom, if you wanna help =ME= please let me know how
> > to do a PKUNZIP with either my PKUNZJR or some DLL
> > stuff to do it.  I'm work all so on my RPG
> Generator
> > and I've got like 500 PKZIPed MIDIs each less then
> > 2k want a LOT of those in there so bad but un
> PKZIPed,
> 
> The best one I've seen was converted to GFA by
> Roland Walter, it is in a zip
> called UnZip-DLL on his download page:
> http://www.rowalt.de/gfabasic/lists.htm
> 
> HTH,
> Russell Hayward

* Okee..  Looking it over..
  Munch..
       Munch..
            Munch..

(A fella can get pretty fat from eating all this
code!)
:)

Does look good !  Roland if you're within Earshot your
little UNZIPPER demon may get quite a workout and I'll
put you in the credits for it.  Pretty complex
looking tho !  I'll see what I can do.

Roland, if you can break it all down to:

PROCEDURE Unzip(F$)
  * * * UNZIP F$ * * *
RETURN

That would be great !
I know..  I gotta sort through all the RECORDs
and TYPEs and DEFs before I can get anywhere first
right ??

What, you want me to LEARN good coding ???
No way !  :)


Also Roland, Scenario will require PKZIP to
compress all data files into .WRL (world) files.
If you have a PKZipper too please let me know !

Tom, =THANKS!=  This is just what I ordered !
Do appreciate it !  I am =SO= ready to leave
DOS SHELL all 100% other end of the stick
DIFFERENT response and activity in true
compiled .EXE ??  :/

Checkout Dungeon2 Demo sometime if you like !
I'm working on a busy BIZZY script language
specific for animation, movement, audio,
and high special FX.  64 million colors has
STILL yet to be tapped.  >P

Sincerely,
David W.
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:

--- Tom Record
<tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> >To make a boolean array do the following:
> >DIM Box!(7,7)
> >
> >which makes a neat little 2-bit box 8x8 in size.
> >From there, put in a value of -1 or 0 to each of
> >them, when you all done you got nice 2-bit data !
> >
> >0 - - # # # # - -
> >1 - # # - - # # -
> >2 - # # - - # # -
> >3 - # # - - # # - The letter "A!"
> >4 - # # # # # # -
> >5 - # # - - # # -
> >6 - # # - - # # -
> >7 - - - - - - - -
> >0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7
> >
> >This is how I stored my fonts one itty bitty BIT
> >at a time.  Remember all this DLL and library stuff
> >is too hard for my head so I do things one DOT at
> >a time.  :)
> >
> >Make a doodle program use mouse or arrow keys to
> pop
> >light those little bits and its much easier to
> >playing with.
> >
> >Hope This Helps !
> >
> 
> David
> am playing w/ letting the computer do'em.  I print
> the alphabet, numbers &
> punctuation in various sizes & run a vertical scan
> across, marking the points
> where a pixel is used.
> 
> >
> >Tom, if you wanna help =ME= please let me know how
> >to do a PKUNZIP with either my PKUNZJR or some DLL
> >stuff to do it.  I'm work all so on my RPG
> Generator
> >and I've got like 500 PKZIPed MIDIs each less then
> >2k want a LOT of those in there so bad but un
> PKZIPed,
> >
> 
> The best I can do for you is to send you the source
> for the routine & the *.dll.
> You should be able to follow it.
> TomR.
> 

> ATTACHMENT part 2 application/octet-stream
name=UNZIP.ZIP; x-mac-type=42494E41;
x-mac-creator=6D646F73

Ooff..
Glurk..

Tom, how can I put this..
All I need is:

Step 1.
Pkunzip(F$)

Step 2.
(Don't forget step 1)

Step 3.
(repeat as often as desired)

:)

Really REALLY simple I'll poke thru this lot
but it's a ton of stuff !  Is there an example
all ready out or one can written that does just
a PKUNZIP ?  This is all I really need, I got
all kindsa file monsters and demons I written
to handle the rest.

Natch the PKUNZIP is quiet and doesn't show
any activity occur.  If there's a system variable
like

PKZ_Progress

which reads 0 to 100 that's fine too but not
much more then this.

Sincerely,
David W.

Kudos on tinkering with pixels !
They're great stuff once you get to know them !

Now try this, imagine your pixels all stuffed
nice and tight in 2-bit arrays and you use something
a bit more complex then FOR I, something that merges
the two with SINQ and COSQ to create fonts that
literally "flap" in 3D space !  It's not that
hard try it !  One of Win98's demos does this.

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> The best I can do for you is to send you the source
> for the routine & the *.dll.
> You should be able to follow it.
> TomR.

* Well I don't know why every single program has to
  have so much stuff in it !

Here is my speak-easy of using the Unzip DLL.
- - -
DEFINT "A-Z"

. Many MANY thanks go to Roland Walter
. and Christian Ghisler for providing
. the original Unzip model programs !
. Special Thanks to Tom Record for
. pointing out this just TOO useful
. DLL !  :)

DLL #1,"unzipdll.dll"
  DECL WORD UnZipFile(L,L,W,L,W,W) AS 7
ENDDLL

Unzip "stepin.mdz","stepin.mid"
MCI "open stepin.mid alias mid"
KILL "stepin.mid"
MCI "play mid"
PRINT "Playing Music !"
KEYGET z
MCI "close mid"
FREEDLL 1

PROCEDURE Unzip(F$,F2$)
  ~@@UnZipFile(F$,F2$,0,0,0,0)
RETURN
- - -
[enclosed]

I'd like to say my THANKS in a song !  :)
Music is the spirit that drives me to work
as long and hard on the GFAToys that I do !
It will see IMMEDIATE use in my RawJukebox
I play background 16 hours a day now.
(The other hours ?? - well I must be SLEEPING!)

I still do get that occasional cat-nap at noon
tho Dale !

Okay next step, I just wanna UNPACK everything
but it won't take "*.*" or "*"  If you try blank
"" it crashes out meanie ! ..  Any ideas ?

Hey you guys let's keep this code all SIMPLE !
We're not all Rocket Scientists
(But I think Tom was at one point !)  :P

I also I crunched down the DLL a bit !
Okay next request the finest and best and really
REALLY good super deluxe .EXE cruncher and DLL
cruncher if you know of or wanna mention your
fav one please let me know !  I'm just using
old PKLITE for everything.  :/

Tom you were very helpful Thank You !!
PKUNZIP is very much part of my audio software
since most MIDI files crunch better then 90% !

Sincerely,
David W.

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Why don't work the Command GetKeyState correct?
In my Programm makes the GetKeyState(Number) random results.

The Cursorkeys should control the worm, but the worm moves random if you
hit any cursor-key.


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'##E#
OpenW 1, 0, 0, 644, 484, 0
Init
InitEngine
Test
Ende
CloseW 1
End
>Procedure Init
  ' ********** Allgemeine Variablen **********
  Global A%
  Global B%
  Global C%
  Global D%
  Global E%
  Global F%
  Global X%
  Global Y%
  Global X1%
  Global Y1%
  Global X2%
  Global Y2%
  Global X3%
  Global Y3%
  Global W%
  Global H%
  Global Red%
  Global Green%
  Global Blue%
  Global Color%
  Global Xmax% =3D 640
  Global Ymax% =3D 480
  Global XMitte% =3D Xmax% / 2
  Global YMitte% =3D Ymax% / 2
  Global DC%
  Global DC1%
  Global DC2%
  Global Cntr%
  Global Cntr1%
  Global Cntr2%
  Global Cntr3%
  Global Cntr4%
  ' **************** Allgemein ***************
  Global FrameTime% =3D 9 ' 100 Frames pro Sekunde
  Global Time%
  Global OldTime%
  Global Delay%
  Global DrawPower%
  ' *************** Backbuffer ***************
  Global Mdc_Anz% =3D 16  ' Anzahl der MemDCs
  Global Mdc%(Mdc_Anz%) ' MDC Handles
  Global Hbm%(Mdc_Anz%) ' MDC Bitmaps
  Global Hbo%(Mdc_Anz%) ' MDC Old
  Global MdcNew%
  Global HbmNew%
  Global HboNew%
  Global Scrn% =3D _DC(1) ' Screen
  Global MDC_Count% '     MDC Z=E4hler
  Global Keyboard%(255)
  Global KeyLeft%
  Global KeyRight%
  Global KeyUp%
  Global KeyDown%
  Global KeyExit%
  Global KeyBut1%
  Global KeyBut2%
  Global KeyBut3%
  Global Keybut4%
Return
>Procedure InitEngine
  ' ****************** Allgemein *******************
  Global ViewX%
  Global ViewY%
  Global GroundType%
  ' ******************** Layer *********************
  Global CharsAnzXScrn% =3D 32
  Global CharsAnzYScrn% =3D 24
  Global CharsAnzX% =3D 640
  Global CharsAnzY% =3D 48
  Global XDrwHlp%(CharsAnzXScrn%)
  Global XposMaxCh% =3D Sub(CharsAnzX%, CharsAnzXScrn%)
  Global YposMaxCh% =3D Sub(CharsAnzY%, CharsAnzYScrn%)
  Global XPosMax%
  Global YPosMax%
  Global CharW% ' Zellengr=F6sse
  Global BGLayer1%(CharsAnzX%, CharsAnzY%) ' Bit 0-15 =3D Charset; Bit 16=
-31 =3D Unused
  Global BGLayer2%(CharsAnzX%, CharsAnzY%) ' Bit 0-15 =3D Charset; Bit 16=
-31 =3D Unused
  '                                          LOAD/SAVE File: Merge BGLaye=
r1% with ROL(BGLayer2%,16)
  Global FGLayer1%(CharsAnzX%, CharsAnzY%) ' Bit 0-15 =3D Charset; Bit 16=
-31 =3D Attribut (Blocked, Destoyable, Trap, ...)
  Global FGLayer2%(CharsAnzX%, CharsAnzY%)
  Global ViewBg1X% ' Positionen f=FCr die Layer
  Global ViewBg1Y%
  Global ViewBg2X%
  Global ViewBg2Y%
  Global ViewFg1X%
  Global ViewFg1Y%
  Global ViewFg2X%
  Global ViewFg2Y%
  Global ViewBg1ChX%
  Global ViewBg1ChY%
  Global ViewBg2ChX%
  Global ViewBg2ChY%
  Global ViewFg1ChX%
  Global ViewFg1ChY%
  Global ViewFg2ChX%
  Global ViewFg2ChY%
  Global OffsetBg1X%
  Global OffsetBg1Y%
  Global OffsetBg2X%
  Global OffsetBg2Y%
  Global OffsetFg1X%
  Global OffsetFg1Y%
  Global OffsetFg2X%
  Global OffsetFg2Y%
  ' ********************** Pen **********************
  Global Pen%(32)
  ' ******************* Spritemem *******************
  Global Shapes% =3D 8192
  Global ShapeOrDC%(Shapes%) '  DC von Sprite
  Global ShapeOrX%(Shapes%)'    X-Pos von OR
  Global ShapeOrY%(Shapes%)'    Y-Pos von OR
  Global ShapeAndDC%(Shapes%) ' DC von Sprite
  Global ShapeAndX%(Shapes%)'   X-Pos von AND
  Global ShapeAndY%(Shapes%) '  Y-Pos von AND
  Global ShapeW%(Shapes%) '     Breite
  Global ShapeH%(Shapes%) '     H=F6he
  Global ShapeM%(Shapes%) '     Modus (Wie Charmode%() )
  Global Shape$(Shapes%) '      Beschreibung
  ' ******************** Sprites ********************
  Global Sprites% =3D 1024 '      Maximale Anzahl der Monster-Sprites
  Global SpriteShp%(Sprites%) ' Shape vom Sprite
  Global SpriteX%(Sprites%) '   X-Pos
  Global SpriteY%(Sprites%) '   Y-Pos
  Global SpriteE%(Sprites%) '   Energie
  Global SpriteSX%(Sprites%) '  X-Richtung
  Global SpriteSY%(Sprites%) '  Y-Richtung
  Global Shots% =3D 1024 '        Maximale Anzahl der Schuss-Sprites
  Global ShotX%(Shots%) '       X-Pos
  Global ShotY%(Shots%) '       Y-Pos
  Global ShotE%(Shots%) '       Energie
  Global ShotSX%(Sprites%) '    X-Richtung
  Global ShotSY%(Sprites%) '    Y-Richtung
  ' ******************** Charset ********************
  Global Chars% =3D 8192
  Global CharOrX%(Chars%) '     X-Pos von OR
  Global CharOrY%(Chars%) '     Y-Pos von OR
  Global CharAndX%(Chars%) '    X-Pos von AND
  Global CharAndY%(Chars%) '    Y-Pos von AND
  Global CharMode%(Chars%) '    Charmode
  '                                      0 =3D Not Visible
  '                                      1 =3D Visible
  '                                      2 =3D Masked
  Global Char$(Chars%) '        Beschreibung
  ' ******************** MemDCs *********************
  NewMDC Xmax%, Ymax% '        Draw DC
  Global GfxDC% =3D Mdc%(0)
  NewMDC 1024, 2048 '          Charset
  Global CharDC% =3D Mdc%(1)
  NewMDC 1024, 2048 '          Sprite
  Global SpriteDC1% =3D Mdc%(2)
Return
>Procedure Test
  GfxEngineInit

  ' ************************************ Charset ************************=
**********
  DC% =3D CharDC%

  C% =3D 1
  CharOrX%(C%) =3D Mul(C%, CharW%)
  CharOrY%(C%) =3D 0
  CharAndX%(C%) =3D -1
  CharAndY%(C%) =3D -1
  CharMode%(C%) =3D 1
  For B% =3D 0 To CharW% - 1
    Y% =3D B%
    For A% =3D 0 To CharW% - 1
      X% =3D Mul(C%, CharW%)
      Add X%, A%
      ~SetPixel(DC%, X%, Y%, RGB(A% * 10, B% * 10, 128))
    Next A%
  Next B%

  C% =3D 2
  CharOrX%(C%) =3D Mul(C%, CharW%)
  CharOrY%(C%) =3D 0
  CharAndX%(C%) =3D Mul(C%, CharW%)
  CharAndY%(C%) =3D CharW%
  CharMode%(C%) =3D 2
  RGBColor 0, 0
  PBox 0, 0, CharW%, CharW%
  For A% =3D 0 To CharW% / 2
    RGBColor RGB(A% * 10, 255 - A% * 10, 64)
    Circle CharW% / 2, CharW% / 2, A%
  Next A%
  For B% =3D 0 To CharW%
    For A% =3D 0 To CharW%
      D% =3D GetPixel(Scrn%, A%, B%)
      If D% =3D 0 Then
        ~SetPixel(DC%, CharAndX%(C%) + A%, CharAndY%(C%) + B%, $FFFFFF)
      Else
        ~SetPixel(DC%, CharAndX%(C%) + A%, CharAndY%(C%) + B%, 0)
      EndIf
    Next A%
  Next B%
  BitBlt Scrn%, 0, 0, CharW%, CharW%, DC%, CharOrX%(C%), CharOrY%(C%)

  C% =3D 3
  CharOrX%(C%) =3D Mul(C%, CharW%)
  CharOrY%(C%) =3D 0
  CharAndX%(C%) =3D Mul(C%, CharW%)
  CharAndY%(C%) =3D CharW%
  CharMode%(C%) =3D 2
  RGBColor 0, 0
  PBox 0, 0, CharW%, CharW%
  For A% =3D 0 To CharW% / 2
    RGBColor RGB(A% * 10, A% * 9, 0)
    Circle CharW% / 2, CharW% / 2, A%
  Next A%
  For B% =3D 0 To CharW%
    For A% =3D 0 To CharW%
      D% =3D GetPixel(Scrn%, A%, B%)
      If D% =3D 0 Then
        ~SetPixel(DC%, CharAndX%(C%) + A%, CharAndY%(C%) + B%, $FFFFFF)
      Else
        ~SetPixel(DC%, CharAndX%(C%) + A%, CharAndY%(C%) + B%, 0)
      EndIf
    Next A%
  Next B%
  BitBlt Scrn%, 0, 0, CharW%, CharW%, DC%, CharOrX%(C%), CharOrY%(C%)


  C% =3D 4
  CharOrX%(C%) =3D Mul(C%, CharW%)
  CharOrY%(C%) =3D 0
  CharAndX%(C%) =3D Mul(C%, CharW%)
  CharAndY%(C%) =3D CharW%
  CharMode%(C%) =3D 2
  RGBColor 0, 0
  PBox 0, 0, CharW%, CharW%
  For A% =3D 0 To CharW% / 2
    RGBColor RGB(A% * 10, A% * 9, 128)' A% * 10)
    Circle CharW% / 2, CharW% / 2, A%
  Next A%
  For B% =3D 0 To CharW%
    For A% =3D 0 To CharW%
      D% =3D GetPixel(Scrn%, A%, B%)
      If D% =3D 0 Then
        ~SetPixel(DC%, CharAndX%(C%) + A%, CharAndY%(C%) + B%, $FFFFFF)
      Else
        ~SetPixel(DC%, CharAndX%(C%) + A%, CharAndY%(C%) + B%, 0)
      EndIf
    Next A%
  Next B%
  BitBlt Scrn%, 0, 0, CharW%, CharW%, DC%, CharOrX%(C%), CharOrY%(C%)

  ' **************************************** Sprites ********************=
*******************
  DC% =3D SpriteDC1%
  RGBColor 0, 0
  PBox 0, 0, 128, 128
  For A% =3D 0 To 15
    B% =3D A% * 16
    RGBColor RGB(B%, B%, B%)
    Circle 64, 64, 64 - A%
  Next A%
  BitBlt Scrn%, 0, 0, 128, 128, DC%
  For B% =3D 0 To 127
    For A% =3D 0 To 127
      D% =3D GetPixel(Scrn%, A%, B%)
      If D% =3D 0 Then
        ~SetPixel(DC%, 128 + A%, B%, $FFFFFF)
      Else
        ~SetPixel(DC%, 128 + A%, B%, 0)
      EndIf
    Next A%
  Next B%
  ShapeOrX%(1) =3D 0
  ShapeOrY%(1) =3D 0
  ShapeAndX%(1) =3D 128
  ShapeAndY%(1) =3D 0
  ShapeW%(1) =3D 128
  ShapeH%(1) =3D 128
  ShapeOrDC%(1) =3D DC%
  ShapeAndDC%(1) =3D DC%
  ShapeM%(1) =3D 2
  ' ************************************** Test-Level *******************=
*******************
  RGBColor 0, $FFFFFF
  For B% =3D 0 To 48
    For A% =3D 0 To 640
      If ((A% + B%) And 1) =3D 1 Then
        BGLayer1%(A%, B%) =3D 1
      EndIf
    Next A%
  Next B%
  For B% =3D 0 To 48
    For A% =3D 0 To 640
      'If Int(Rnd(1) * 100) > 70 Then
      If ((A% + B%) And 3) =3D 2 Then
        BGLayer2%(A%, B%) =3D 2
      EndIf
    Next A%
  Next B%
  For B% =3D 0 To 48
    For A% =3D 0 To 640
      'If Int(Rnd(1) * 100) > 90 Then
      If (A% And 3) =3D 2 Then
        FGLayer1%(A%, B%) =3D 3
      EndIf
    Next A%
  Next B%
  For B% =3D 0 To 48
    For A% =3D 0 To 640
      'If Int(Rnd(1) * 100) > 90 Then
      If (B% And 3) =3D 2 Then
        FGLayer2%(A%, B%) =3D 4
      EndIf
    Next A%
  Next B%

  SpriteX%(0) =3D MouseX
  SpriteY%(0) =3D MouseY
  SpriteShp%(0) =3D 1
  ' ***************************************** Animation *****************=
****************
  SetFPS 50
  Sync
  Do
    Sync
    KeyBoard
    For A% =3D 63 To 1 Step -1
      SpriteX%(A%) =3D SpriteX%(A% - 1)
      SpriteY%(A%) =3D SpriteY%(A% - 1)
      SpriteShp%(A%) =3D SpriteShp%(A% - 1)
    Next A%
    X% =3D MouseX
    Y% =3D MouseY
    'SpriteX%(0) =3D X%
    'SpriteY%(0) =3D Y%
    If X% > 440 Then
      Add ViewX%, 4
    EndIf
    If X% < 200 Then
      Sub ViewX%, 4
    EndIf
    If Y% > 280 Then
      Add ViewY%, 4
    EndIf
    If Y% < 200
      Sub ViewY%, 4
    EndIf
    GfxEngine
    Text 0, 0, "FPS: " + Str$(Delay%) + " ms      "
    Text 0, 20, "Draw Time: " + Str$(DrawPower%) + " ms      "
    Exit If MouseK <> 0'InKey$
  Loop
Return
Procedure KeyBoard
  SpriteSX%(0) =3D 0
  SpriteSY%(0) =3D 0




  ' \/\/\/ Whats wrong with the Command "GetKeyState(Key)"? \/\/\/
  For A% =3D 0 To 255
    Keyboard%(A%) =3D GetKeyState(A%)
  Next A%
  ' /\/\/\                                                  /\/\/\



  KeyExit% =3D Keyboard%(27) ' ESC
  KeyLeft% =3D Keyboard%(37)
  KeyUp% =3D Keyboard%(38)
  KeyRight% =3D Keyboard%(39)
  KeyDown% =3D Keyboard%(40)
  KeyBut1% =3D GetKeyState(16) ' SHIFT
  KeyBut2% =3D GetKeyState(17) ' STRG
  KeyBut3% =3D GetKeyState(18) ' STRG
  Keybut4% =3D GetKeyState(32) ' SPACE

  If KeyLeft% Then
    Sub SpriteSX%(0), 2
  EndIf
  If KeyRight% Then
    Add SpriteSX%(0), 2
  EndIf
  If KeyUp% Then
    Sub SpriteSY%(0), 2
  EndIf
  If KeyDown% Then
    Add SpriteSY%(0), 2
  EndIf

  Add SpriteX%(0), SpriteSX%(0)
  Add SpriteY%(0), SpriteSY%(0)



Return
>Procedure Ende
  EndDCs
  EndPens
Return
>Procedure NewMDC(NewW%, NewH%)
  MdcNew% =3D CreateCompatibleDC(Scrn%)
  HbmNew% =3D CreateCompatibleBitmap(Scrn%, NewW%, NewH%)
  HboNew% =3D SelectObject(MdcNew%, HbmNew%)
  Mdc%(MDC_Count%) =3D MdcNew%
  Hbm%(MDC_Count%) =3D HbmNew%
  Hbo%(MDC_Count%) =3D HboNew%
  Inc MDC_Count%
Return
>Procedure EndDCs
  For A% =3D 0 To MDC_Count% - 1
    MdcNew% =3D Mdc%(A%)
    HbmNew% =3D Hbm%(A%)
    HboNew% =3D Hbo%(A%)
    ~SelectObject(MdcNew%, HboNew%)
    FreeBmp HbmNew%
    ~DeleteDC(MdcNew%)
  Next A%
Return
>Procedure EndPens
  For A% =3D 0 To 32
    ~DeleteObject(Pen%(A%))
  Next A%
Return
>Procedure GfxEngineInit
  CharW% =3D Div(Xmax%, CharsAnzXScrn%)
  XPosMax% =3D Mul(XposMaxCh%, CharW%)
  YPosMax% =3D Mul(YposMaxCh%, CharW%)
  For A% =3D 0 To 32
    Pen%(A%) =3D CreatePen(0, 9, RGB(A% * 8, 128 - A% * 4, $FF))
  Next A%
Return
>Procedure GfxEngine
  ViewX% =3D Max(Min(ViewX%, XPosMax%), 0)
  ViewY% =3D Max(Min(ViewY%, YPosMax%), 0)
  ViewBg1X% =3D Max(Min(ViewX% / 4, XPosMax%), 0)
  ViewBg1Y% =3D Max(Min(ViewY% / 4, YPosMax%), 0)
  ViewBg2X% =3D Max(Min(ViewX% / 2, XPosMax%), 0)
  ViewBg2Y% =3D Max(Min(ViewY% / 2, YPosMax%), 0)
  ViewFg1X% =3D Max(Min(ViewX%, XPosMax%), 0)
  ViewFg1Y% =3D Max(Min(ViewY%, YPosMax%), 0)
  ViewFg2X% =3D Max(Min(ViewX%, XPosMax%), 0)
  ViewFg2Y% =3D Max(Min(ViewY%, YPosMax%), 0)
  Ground
  PeekEvent
  BackGroundLayer1
  PeekEvent
  BackGroundLayer2
  PeekEvent
  ForeGroundLayer1
  PeekEvent
  SpriteLayer
  PeekEvent
  ForeGroundLayer2
  PeekEvent
  BitBlt GfxDC%, 0, 0, Xmax%, Ymax%, Scrn%, 0, 0
Return
>Procedure Ground
  Select GroundType%
  Case 0
    For A% =3D 0 To 480 Step 16
      B% =3D Add(A%, 0)' 8)
      D% =3D Add(B%, 9)
      C% =3D Div(A%, 16)
      ~SelectObject(GfxDC%, Pen%(C%))
      PeekEvent
      ~Rectangle(GfxDC%, 0, B%, Xmax%, D%) ' Faster than ~MoveTo ... ~Lin=
eTo
    Next A%
  Case 1
    ~PatBlt(GfxDC%, 0, 0, Xmax%, Ymax%, BLACKNESS)'PATCOPY)'WHITENESS)
  EndSelect
Return
>Procedure BackGroundLayer1 ' Lowest Priority
  ViewBg1ChX% =3D Div(ViewBg1X%, CharW%)
  ViewBg1ChY% =3D Div(ViewBg1Y%, CharW%)
  OffsetBg1X% =3D Mod(ViewBg1X%, CharW%)
  OffsetBg1Y% =3D Mod(ViewBg1Y%, CharW%)
  For A% =3D 0 To CharsAnzXScrn%
    XDrwHlp%(A%) =3D Mul(A%, CharW%)
    Sub XDrwHlp%(A%), OffsetBg1X%
  Next A%
  For B% =3D 0 To CharsAnzYScrn%
    Y% =3D Mul(B%, CharW%)
    Sub Y%, OffsetBg1Y%
    Y1% =3D Add(ViewBg1ChY%, B%)
    For A% =3D 0 To CharsAnzXScrn%
      X1% =3D Add(ViewBg1ChX%, A%)
      X% =3D XDrwHlp%(A%)
      C% =3D BGLayer1%(X1%, Y1%)
      D% =3D And(C%, $FFFF)
      E% =3D CharMode%(D%)
      Select E%
      Case 1
        BitBlt CharDC%, CharOrX%(D%), CharOrY%(D%), CharW%, CharW%, GfxDC=
%, X%, Y%
      Case 2
        BitBlt CharDC%, CharAndX%(D%), CharAndY%(D%), CharW%, CharW%, Gfx=
DC%, X%, Y%, SRCAND
        BitBlt CharDC%, CharOrX%(D%), CharOrY%(D%), CharW%, CharW%, GfxDC=
%, X%, Y%, SRCPAINT
      EndSelect
    Next A%
  Next B%
Return
>Procedure BackGroundLayer2
  ViewBg2ChX% =3D Div(ViewBg2X%, CharW%)
  ViewBg2ChY% =3D Div(ViewBg2Y%, CharW%)
  OffsetBg2X% =3D Mod(ViewBg2X%, CharW%)
  OffsetBg2Y% =3D Mod(ViewBg2Y%, CharW%)
  For A% =3D 0 To CharsAnzXScrn%
    XDrwHlp%(A%) =3D Mul(A%, CharW%)
    Sub XDrwHlp%(A%), OffsetBg2X%
  Next A%
  For B% =3D 0 To CharsAnzYScrn%
    Y% =3D Mul(B%, CharW%)
    Sub Y%, OffsetBg2Y%
    Y1% =3D Add(ViewBg2ChY%, B%)
    For A% =3D 0 To CharsAnzXScrn%
      X1% =3D Add(ViewBg2ChX%, A%)
      X% =3D XDrwHlp%(A%)
      C% =3D BGLayer2%(X1%, Y1%)
      D% =3D And(C%, $FFFF)
      E% =3D CharMode%(D%)
      Select E%
      Case 1
        BitBlt CharDC%, CharOrX%(D%), CharOrY%(D%), CharW%, CharW%, GfxDC=
%, X%, Y%
      Case 2
        BitBlt CharDC%, CharAndX%(D%), CharAndY%(D%), CharW%, CharW%, Gfx=
DC%, X%, Y%, SRCAND
        BitBlt CharDC%, CharOrX%(D%), CharOrY%(D%), CharW%, CharW%, GfxDC=
%, X%, Y%, SRCPAINT
      EndSelect
    Next A%
  Next B%
Return
>Procedure ForeGroundLayer1 ' Foreground Low Priority
  ViewFg1ChX% =3D Div(ViewFg1X%, CharW%)
  ViewFg1ChY% =3D Div(ViewFg1Y%, CharW%)
  OffsetFg1X% =3D Mod(ViewFg1X%, CharW%)
  OffsetFg1Y% =3D Mod(ViewFg1Y%, CharW%)
  For A% =3D 0 To CharsAnzXScrn%
    XDrwHlp%(A%) =3D Mul(A%, CharW%)
    Sub XDrwHlp%(A%), OffsetFg1X%
  Next A%
  For B% =3D 0 To CharsAnzYScrn%
    Y% =3D Mul(B%, CharW%)
    Sub Y%, OffsetFg1Y%
    Y1% =3D Add(ViewFg1ChY%, B%)
    For A% =3D 0 To CharsAnzXScrn%
      X1% =3D Add(ViewFg1ChX%, A%)
      X% =3D XDrwHlp%(A%)
      C% =3D FGLayer1%(X1%, Y1%)
      D% =3D And(C%, $FFFF)
      E% =3D CharMode%(D%)
      Select E%
      Case 1
        BitBlt CharDC%, CharOrX%(D%), CharOrY%(D%), CharW%, CharW%, GfxDC=
%, X%, Y%
      Case 2
        BitBlt CharDC%, CharAndX%(D%), CharAndY%(D%), CharW%, CharW%, Gfx=
DC%, X%, Y%, SRCAND
        BitBlt CharDC%, CharOrX%(D%), CharOrY%(D%), CharW%, CharW%, GfxDC=
%, X%, Y%, SRCPAINT
      EndSelect
    Next A%
  Next B%
Return
>Procedure SpriteLayer
  For A% =3D 0 To Sprites%
    B% =3D SpriteShp%(A%)
    If B% Then
      W% =3D ShapeW%(B%)
      H% =3D ShapeH%(B%)
      E% =3D ShapeM%(B%)
      X% =3D SpriteX%(A%)
      Y% =3D SpriteY%(A%)
      Select E%
      Case 1
        BitBlt ShapeOrDC%(B%), ShapeOrX%(B%), ShapeOrY%(B%), W%, H%, GfxD=
C%, X%, Y%
      Case 2
        BitBlt ShapeAndDC%(B%), ShapeAndX%(B%), ShapeAndY%(B%), W%, H%, G=
fxDC%, X%, Y%, SRCAND
        BitBlt ShapeOrDC%(B%), ShapeOrX%(B%), ShapeOrY%(B%), W%, H%, GfxD=
C%, X%, Y%, SRCPAINT
      EndSelect
    EndIf
  Next A%
Return
>Procedure ForeGroundLayer2 ' Foreground High Priority
  ViewFg2ChX% =3D Div(ViewFg2X%, CharW%)
  ViewFg2ChY% =3D Div(ViewFg2Y%, CharW%)
  OffsetFg2X% =3D Mod(ViewFg2X%, CharW%)
  OffsetFg2Y% =3D Mod(ViewFg2Y%, CharW%)
  For A% =3D 0 To CharsAnzXScrn%
    XDrwHlp%(A%) =3D Mul(A%, CharW%)
    Sub XDrwHlp%(A%), OffsetFg2X%
  Next A%
  For B% =3D 0 To CharsAnzYScrn%
    Y% =3D Mul(B%, CharW%)
    Sub Y%, OffsetFg2Y%
    Y1% =3D Add(ViewFg2ChY%, B%)
    For A% =3D 0 To CharsAnzXScrn%
      X1% =3D Add(ViewFg2ChX%, A%)
      X% =3D XDrwHlp%(A%)
      C% =3D FGLayer2%(X1%, Y1%)
      D% =3D And(C%, $FFFF)
      E% =3D CharMode%(D%)
      Select E%
      Case 1
        BitBlt CharDC%, CharOrX%(D%), CharOrY%(D%), CharW%, CharW%, GfxDC=
%, X%, Y%
      Case 2
        BitBlt CharDC%, CharAndX%(D%), CharAndY%(D%), CharW%, CharW%, Gfx=
DC%, X%, Y%, SRCAND
        BitBlt CharDC%, CharOrX%(D%), CharOrY%(D%), CharW%, CharW%, GfxDC=
%, X%, Y%, SRCPAINT
      EndSelect
    Next A%
  Next B%
Return
>Procedure SetFPS(Fps%) ' Framerate in Frames pro Sekunde setzen
  FrameTime% =3D Div(1000, Fps%)
  Dec FrameTime%
>Procedure Sync '         Auf die Framerate syncronisieren
  DrawPower% =3D oTimer - OldTime%
  Do
    Time% =3D oTimer
    Delay% =3D Time% - OldTime%
    If Delay% < 0 Then Delay% =3D FrameTime%
    PeekEvent
    Exit If Delay% > FrameTime%
  Loop
  OldTime% =3D Time%
Return
$DatFile
$ExeName =3D E:\Eigene Dateien\GB32\Scroller\Scroller.Exe
$FileDescription =3D -<({[]})>-
$Comments =3D Autor: Franz-Xaver Schweiger
$CompanyName =3D Franz-Xaver Schweiger
$LegalCopyright =3D =A9 2000 Franz-Xaver Schweiger
$LanguageId =3D 0407
$FileVersion =3D %d.%d.%d.%d
$ProductVersion =3D %d.%d.%d.%d
$DatFile

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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Hey David, that's great. Works well.
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> > The best I can do for you is to send you the source
> > for the routine & the *.dll.
> > You should be able to follow it.
> > TomR.
>
> * Well I don't know why every single program has to
>   have so much stuff in it !
>
> Here is my speak-easy of using the Unzip DLL.
> - - -
> DEFINT "A-Z"
>
> . Many MANY thanks go to Roland Walter
> . and Christian Ghisler for providing
> . the original Unzip model programs !
> . Special Thanks to Tom Record for
> . pointing out this just TOO useful
> . DLL !  :)
>
> DLL #1,"unzipdll.dll"
>   DECL WORD UnZipFile(L,L,W,L,W,W) AS 7
> ENDDLL
>
> Unzip "stepin.mdz","stepin.mid"
> MCI "open stepin.mid alias mid"
> KILL "stepin.mid"
> MCI "play mid"
> PRINT "Playing Music !"
> KEYGET z
> MCI "close mid"
> FREEDLL 1
>
> PROCEDURE Unzip(F$,F2$)
>   ~@@UnZipFile(F$,F2$,0,0,0,0)
> RETURN
> - - -
> [enclosed]
>
> I'd like to say my THANKS in a song !  :)
> Music is the spirit that drives me to work
> as long and hard on the GFAToys that I do !
> It will see IMMEDIATE use in my RawJukebox
> I play background 16 hours a day now.
> (The other hours ?? - well I must be SLEEPING!)
>
> I still do get that occasional cat-nap at noon
> tho Dale !
>
> Okay next step, I just wanna UNPACK everything
> but it won't take "*.*" or "*"  If you try blank
> "" it crashes out meanie ! ..  Any ideas ?
>
> Hey you guys let's keep this code all SIMPLE !
> We're not all Rocket Scientists
> (But I think Tom was at one point !)  :P
>
> I also I crunched down the DLL a bit !
> Okay next request the finest and best and really
> REALLY good super deluxe .EXE cruncher and DLL
> cruncher if you know of or wanna mention your
> fav one please let me know !  I'm just using
> old PKLITE for everything.  :/
>
> Tom you were very helpful Thank You !!
> PKUNZIP is very much part of my audio software
> since most MIDI files crunch better then 90% !
>
> Sincerely,
> David W.
>
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List Member "franz-xaver.schweiger@debitel.net" <franz-xaver.schweiger@debitel.net> wrote:
I found the Error:
I forgot to mask the value with 128
Key%=And(GetKeyState(Number) ,128)

The new Keyboard-Procedure works (I can move the Worm correct now).

Procedure KeyBoard
  SpriteSX%(0) = 0
  SpriteSY%(0) = 0

  KeyExit% = And(GetKeyState(27), 128) ' ESC
  KeyLeft% = And(GetKeyState(37), 128)
  KeyUp% = And(GetKeyState(38), 128)
  KeyRight% = And(GetKeyState(39), 128)
  KeyDown% = And(GetKeyState(40), 128)
  KeyBut1% = And(GetKeyState(16), 128)
  KeyBut2% = And(GetKeyState(17), 128) ' STRG
  KeyBut3% = And(GetKeyState(18), 128) ' STRG
  Keybut4% = And(GetKeyState(32), 128) ' SPACE

  If KeyLeft% Then
    Sub SpriteSX%(0), 2
  EndIf
  If KeyRight% Then
    Add SpriteSX%(0), 2
  EndIf
  If KeyUp% Then
    Sub SpriteSY%(0), 2
  EndIf
  If KeyDown% Then
    Add SpriteSY%(0), 2
  EndIf

  Add SpriteX%(0), SpriteSX%(0)
  Add SpriteY%(0), SpriteSY%(0)

Return

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Holy Bunches of BANANAS !!

Why in the world are you using GLOBAL this way ?

O-k..  Maybe you're from QBee..  :)

GFABasic does not require the word GLOBAL EVER..
If you want a global variable, just type it out
like:

A =3D 25

A is now global.

If you want a local variable inside a procedure
or function use:

PROCEDURE FruityBunch(C)
LOCAL A=3D25

C is a scratch variable that LOSES its contents
after leaving this PROCEDURE unless you put a
VAR in front of it like:

PROCEDURE FruityBunch(VAR C)

It is still neither GLOBAL nor LOCAL but changes
the contents of the routine calling it.

N=3D1
AddUp N
PRINT A
PRINT N

PROCEDURE AddUp(VAR N)
  LOCAL A=3D16
  N++
RETURN

Results are:
0
2

Because LOCAL variable A is completely difference
from GLOBAL variable A, so GLOBAL =3D 0 .

All so remember that you can use "," to set many
many variables

A++,B-=3DC*34\D,D*=3D17

is the same as:

A =3D A + 1
B =3D B - C * (34 \ D)
D =3D D * 17

Okay first off take out all your biggo
GLOBALs cause they not needed !  (WHEW!)  :)

Russell taught me this too:
the word "THEN" is not needed ever in an IF
statement unless you do the commands on the same
line.

IF A=3D25 ' <-- Note the missing THEN !
  B=3D16
ENDIF

IF A=3D25 THEN B=3D16

If you have an ELSE if statement you can NEVER use
THEN in it at all.

IF A=3D25
  B=3D16
ELSE IF B=3D17 ' <-- entering THEN is forbidden here
  A++
ENDIF

For a refresh course in fairly decent programming
(I'm not perfect but I do try hard)
look up my source code for Crystal Waves in
Dale's homepage.

GOOD DEAL !!  Looks like you're writing a videogame !
I can't wait to play it when you're done !  :)

Sincerely,
David W.

--- "franz-xaver.schweiger@debitel.net"
<franz-xaver.schweiger@debitel.net> wrote:
> Why don't work the Command GetKeyState correct?
> In my Programm makes the GetKeyState(Number) random
> results.
>=20
> The Cursorkeys should control the worm, but the worm
> moves random if you
> hit any cursor-key.
>=20
> > '##E#
> OpenW 1, 0, 0, 644, 484, 0
> Init
> InitEngine
> Test
> Ende
> CloseW 1
> End
> >Procedure Init
>   ' ********** Allgemeine Variablen **********
>   Global A%
>   Global B%
>   Global C%
>   Global D%
>   Global E%
>   Global F%
>   Global X%
>   Global Y%
>   Global X1%
>   Global Y1%
>   Global X2%
>   Global Y2%
>   Global X3%
>   Global Y3%
>   Global W%
>   Global H%
>   Global Red%
>   Global Green%
>   Global Blue%
>   Global Color%
>   Global Xmax% =3D 640
>   Global Ymax% =3D 480
>   Global XMitte% =3D Xmax% / 2
>   Global YMitte% =3D Ymax% / 2
>   Global DC%
>   Global DC1%
>   Global DC2%
>   Global Cntr%
>   Global Cntr1%
>   Global Cntr2%
>   Global Cntr3%
>   Global Cntr4%
>   ' **************** Allgemein ***************
>   Global FrameTime% =3D 9 ' 100 Frames pro Sekunde
>   Global Time%
>   Global OldTime%
>   Global Delay%
>   Global DrawPower%
>   ' *************** Backbuffer ***************
>   Global Mdc_Anz% =3D 16  ' Anzahl der MemDCs
>   Global Mdc%(Mdc_Anz%) ' MDC Handles
>   Global Hbm%(Mdc_Anz%) ' MDC Bitmaps
>   Global Hbo%(Mdc_Anz%) ' MDC Old
>   Global MdcNew%
>   Global HbmNew%
>   Global HboNew%
>   Global Scrn% =3D _DC(1) ' Screen
>   Global MDC_Count% '     MDC Z=E4hler
>   Global Keyboard%(255)
>   Global KeyLeft%
>   Global KeyRight%
>   Global KeyUp%
>   Global KeyDown%
>   Global KeyExit%
>   Global KeyBut1%
>   Global KeyBut2%
>   Global KeyBut3%
>   Global Keybut4%
> Return
> >Procedure InitEngine
>   ' ****************** Allgemein *******************
>   Global ViewX%
>   Global ViewY%
>   Global GroundType%
>   ' ******************** Layer *********************
>   Global CharsAnzXScrn% =3D 32
>   Global CharsAnzYScrn% =3D 24
>   Global CharsAnzX% =3D 640
>   Global CharsAnzY% =3D 48
>   Global XDrwHlp%(CharsAnzXScrn%)
>   Global XposMaxCh% =3D Sub(CharsAnzX%,
> CharsAnzXScrn%)
>   Global YposMaxCh% =3D Sub(CharsAnzY%,
> CharsAnzYScrn%)
>   Global XPosMax%
>   Global YPosMax%
>   Global CharW% ' Zellengr=F6sse
>   Global BGLayer1%(CharsAnzX%, CharsAnzY%) ' Bit
> 0-15 =3D Charset; Bit 16-31 =3D Unused
>   Global BGLayer2%(CharsAnzX%, CharsAnzY%) ' Bit
> 0-15 =3D Charset; Bit 16-31 =3D Unused
>   '                                        =20
> LOAD/SAVE File: Merge BGLayer1% with
> ROL(BGLayer2%,16)
>   Global FGLayer1%(CharsAnzX%, CharsAnzY%) ' Bit
> 0-15 =3D Charset; Bit 16-31 =3D Attribut (Blocked,
> Destoyable, Trap, ...)
>   Global FGLayer2%(CharsAnzX%, CharsAnzY%)
>   Global ViewBg1X% ' Positionen f=FCr die Layer
>   Global ViewBg1Y%
>   Global ViewBg2X%
>   Global ViewBg2Y%
>   Global ViewFg1X%
>   Global ViewFg1Y%
>   Global ViewFg2X%
>   Global ViewFg2Y%
>   Global ViewBg1ChX%
>   Global ViewBg1ChY%
>   Global ViewBg2ChX%
>   Global ViewBg2ChY%
>   Global ViewFg1ChX%
>   Global ViewFg1ChY%
>   Global ViewFg2ChX%
>   Global ViewFg2ChY%
>   Global OffsetBg1X%
>   Global OffsetBg1Y%
>   Global OffsetBg2X%
>   Global OffsetBg2Y%
>   Global OffsetFg1X%
>   Global OffsetFg1Y%
>   Global OffsetFg2X%
>   Global OffsetFg2Y%
>   ' ********************** Pen
> **********************
>   Global Pen%(32)
>   ' ******************* Spritemem
> *******************
>   Global Shapes% =3D 8192
>   Global ShapeOrDC%(Shapes%) '  DC von Sprite
>   Global ShapeOrX%(Shapes%)'    X-Pos von OR
>   Global ShapeOrY%(Shapes%)'    Y-Pos von OR
>   Global ShapeAndDC%(Shapes%) ' DC von Sprite
>   Global ShapeAndX%(Shapes%)'   X-Pos von AND
>   Global ShapeAndY%(Shapes%) '  Y-Pos von AND
>   Global ShapeW%(Shapes%) '     Breite
>   Global ShapeH%(Shapes%) '     H=F6he
>   Global ShapeM%(Shapes%) '     Modus (Wie
> Charmode%() )
>   Global Shape$(Shapes%) '      Beschreibung
>   ' ******************** Sprites
> ********************
>   Global Sprites% =3D 1024 '      Maximale Anzahl der
> Monster-Sprites
>   Global SpriteShp%(Sprites%) ' Shape vom Sprite
>   Global SpriteX%(Sprites%) '   X-Pos
>   Global SpriteY%(Sprites%) '   Y-Pos
>   Global SpriteE%(Sprites%) '   Energie
>   Global SpriteSX%(Sprites%) '  X-Richtung
>   Global SpriteSY%(Sprites%) '  Y-Richtung
>   Global Shots% =3D 1024 '        Maximale Anzahl der
> Schuss-Sprites
>   Global ShotX%(Shots%) '       X-Pos
>   Global ShotY%(Shots%) '       Y-Pos
>   Global ShotE%(Shots%) '       Energie
>   Global ShotSX%(Sprites%) '    X-Richtung
>   Global ShotSY%(Sprites%) '    Y-Richtung
>   ' ******************** Charset
> ********************
>   Global Chars% =3D 8192
>   Global CharOrX%(Chars%) '     X-Pos von OR
>   Global CharOrY%(Chars%) '     Y-Pos von OR
>   Global CharAndX%(Chars%) '    X-Pos von AND
>   Global CharAndY%(Chars%) '    Y-Pos von AND
>   Global CharMode%(Chars%) '    Charmode
>   '                                      0 =3D Not
> Visible
>   '                                      1 =3D Visible
>   '                                      2 =3D Masked
>   Global Char$(Chars%) '        Beschreibung
>   ' ******************** MemDCs
> *********************
>   NewMDC Xmax%, Ymax% '        Draw DC
>   Global GfxDC% =3D Mdc%(0)
>   NewMDC 1024, 2048 '          Charset
>   Global CharDC% =3D Mdc%(1)
>   NewMDC 1024, 2048 '          Sprite
>   Global SpriteDC1% =3D Mdc%(2)
> Return
> >Procedure Test
>   GfxEngineInit
>=20
>   ' ************************************ Charset
> **********************************
>   DC% =3D CharDC%
>=20
>   C% =3D 1
>   CharOrX%(C%) =3D Mul(C%, CharW%)
>   CharOrY%(C%) =3D 0
>   CharAndX%(C%) =3D -1
>   CharAndY%(C%) =3D -1
>   CharMode%(C%) =3D 1
>   For B% =3D 0 To CharW% - 1
>     Y% =3D B%
>     For A% =3D 0 To CharW% - 1
>       X% =3D Mul(C%, CharW%)
>       Add X%, A%
>       ~SetPixel(DC%, X%, Y%, RGB(A% * 10, B% * 10,
> 128))
>     Next A%
>   Next B%
>=20
>   C% =3D 2
>   CharOrX%(C%) =3D Mul(C%, CharW%)
>   CharOrY%(C%) =3D 0
>   CharAndX%(C%) =3D Mul(C%, CharW%)
>   CharAndY%(C%) =3D CharW%
>   CharMode%(C%) =3D 2
>   RGBColor 0, 0
>   PBox 0, 0, CharW%, CharW%
>   For A% =3D 0 To CharW% / 2
>     RGBColor RGB(A% * 10, 255 - A% * 10, 64)
>     Circle CharW% / 2, CharW% / 2, A%
>   Next A%
>   For B% =3D 0 To CharW%
>     For A% =3D 0 To CharW%
>       D% =3D GetPixel(Scrn%, A%, B%)
>       If D% =3D 0 Then
>         ~SetPixel(DC%, CharAndX%(C%) + A%,
> CharAndY%(C%) + B%, $FFFFFF)
>       Else
>         ~SetPixel(DC%, CharAndX%(C%) + A%,
> CharAndY%(C%) + B%, 0)
>       EndIf
>     Next A%
>   Next B%
>   BitBlt Scrn%, 0, 0, CharW%, CharW%, DC%,
> CharOrX%(C%), CharOrY%(C%)
>=20
>   C% =3D 3
>   CharOrX%(C%) =3D Mul(C%, CharW%)
>   CharOrY%(C%) =3D 0
>   CharAndX%(C%) =3D Mul(C%, CharW%)
>   CharAndY%(C%) =3D CharW%
>   CharMode%(C%) =3D 2
>   RGBColor 0, 0
>   PBox 0, 0, CharW%, CharW%
>   For A% =3D 0 To CharW% / 2
>     RGBColor RGB(A% * 10, A% * 9, 0)
>     Circle CharW% / 2, CharW% / 2, A%
>   Next A%
>   For B% =3D 0 To CharW%
>     For A% =3D 0 To CharW%
>       D% =3D GetPixel(Scrn%, A%, B%)
>       If D% =3D 0 Then
>         ~SetPixel(DC%, CharAndX%(C%) + A%,
> CharAndY%(C%) + B%, $FFFFFF)
>       Else
>         ~SetPixel(DC%, CharAndX%(C%) + A%,
> CharAndY%(C%) + B%, 0)
>       EndIf
>     Next A%
>   Next B%
>   BitBlt Scrn%, 0, 0, CharW%, CharW%, DC%,
> CharOrX%(C%), CharOrY%(C%)
>=20
>=20
>   C% =3D 4
>   CharOrX%(C%) =3D Mul(C%, CharW%)
>   CharOrY%(C%) =3D 0
>   CharAndX%(C%) =3D Mul(C%, CharW%)
>   CharAndY%(C%) =3D CharW%
>   CharMode%(C%) =3D 2
>   RGBColor 0, 0
>   PBox 0, 0, CharW%, CharW%
>   For A% =3D 0 To CharW% / 2
>     RGBColor RGB(A% * 10, A% * 9, 128)' A% * 10)
>     Circle CharW% / 2, CharW% / 2, A%
>   Next A%
>   For B% =3D 0 To CharW%
>     For A% =3D 0 To CharW%
>       D% =3D GetPixel(Scrn%, A%, B%)
>       If D% =3D 0 Then
>         ~SetPixel(DC%, CharAndX%(C%) + A%,
> CharAndY%(C%) + B%, $FFFFFF)
>       Else
>         ~SetPixel(DC%, CharAndX%(C%) + A%,
> CharAndY%(C%) + B%, 0)
>       EndIf
>     Next A%
>   Next B%
>   BitBlt Scrn%, 0, 0, CharW%, CharW%, DC%,
> CharOrX%(C%), CharOrY%(C%)
>=20
>   ' **************************************** Sprites
> ***************************************
>   DC% =3D SpriteDC1%
>   RGBColor 0, 0
>   PBox 0, 0, 128, 128
>   For A% =3D 0 To 15
>     B% =3D A% * 16
>     RGBColor RGB(B%, B%, B%)
>     Circle 64, 64, 64 - A%
>   Next A%
>   BitBlt Scrn%, 0, 0, 128, 128, DC%
>   For B% =3D 0 To 127
>     For A% =3D 0 To 127
>       D% =3D GetPixel(Scrn%, A%, B%)
>       If D% =3D 0 Then
>         ~SetPixel(DC%, 128 + A%, B%, $FFFFFF)
>       Else
>         ~SetPixel(DC%, 128 + A%, B%, 0)
>       EndIf
>     Next A%
>   Next B%
>   ShapeOrX%(1) =3D 0
>   ShapeOrY%(1) =3D 0
>   ShapeAndX%(1) =3D 128
>   ShapeAndY%(1) =3D 0
>   ShapeW%(1) =3D 128
>   ShapeH%(1) =3D 128
>   ShapeOrDC%(1) =3D DC%
>   ShapeAndDC%(1) =3D DC%
>   ShapeM%(1) =3D 2
>   ' **************************************
> Test-Level **************************************
>   RGBColor 0, $FFFFFF
>   For B% =3D 0 To 48
>     For A% =3D 0 To 640
>       If ((A% + B%) And 1) =3D 1 Then
>         BGLayer1%(A%, B%) =3D 1
>       EndIf
>     Next A%
>   Next B%
>   For B% =3D 0 To 48
>     For A% =3D 0 To 640
>       'If Int(Rnd(1) * 100) > 70 Then
>       If ((A% + B%) And 3) =3D 2 Then
>         BGLayer2%(A%, B%) =3D 2
>       EndIf
>     Next A%
>   Next B%
>   For B% =3D 0 To 48
>     For A% =3D 0 To 640
>       'If Int(Rnd(1) * 100) > 90 Then
>       If (A% And 3) =3D 2 Then
>         FGLayer1%(A%, B%) =3D 3
>       EndIf
>     Next A%
>   Next B%
>   For B% =3D 0 To 48
>     For A% =3D 0 To 640
>       'If Int(Rnd(1) * 100) > 90 Then
>       If (B% And 3) =3D 2 Then
>         FGLayer2%(A%, B%) =3D 4
>       EndIf
>     Next A%
>   Next B%
>=20
>   SpriteX%(0) =3D MouseX
>   SpriteY%(0) =3D MouseY
>   SpriteShp%(0) =3D 1
>   ' *****************************************
> Animation *********************************
>   SetFPS 50
>   Sync
>   Do
>     Sync
>     KeyBoard
>     For A% =3D 63 To 1 Step -1
>       SpriteX%(A%) =3D SpriteX%(A% - 1)
>       SpriteY%(A%) =3D SpriteY%(A% - 1)
>       SpriteShp%(A%) =3D SpriteShp%(A% - 1)
>     Next A%
>     X% =3D MouseX
>     Y% =3D MouseY
>     'SpriteX%(0) =3D X%
>     'SpriteY%(0) =3D Y%
>     If X% > 440 Then
>       Add ViewX%, 4
>     EndIf
>     If X% < 200 Then
>       Sub ViewX%, 4
>     EndIf
>     If Y% > 280 Then
>       Add ViewY%, 4
>     EndIf
>     If Y% < 200
>       Sub ViewY%, 4
>     EndIf
>     GfxEngine
>     Text 0, 0, "FPS: " + Str$(Delay%) + " ms      "
>     Text 0, 20, "Draw Time: " + Str$(DrawPower%) + "
> ms      "
>     Exit If MouseK <> 0'InKey$
>   Loop
> Return
> Procedure KeyBoard
>   SpriteSX%(0) =3D 0
>   SpriteSY%(0) =3D 0
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>   ' \/\/\/ Whats wrong with the Command
> "GetKeyState(Key)"? \/\/\/
>   For A% =3D 0 To 255
>     Keyboard%(A%) =3D GetKeyState(A%)
>   Next A%
>   ' /\/\/\                                         =20
>        /\/\/\
>=20
>=20
>=20
>   KeyExit% =3D Keyboard%(27) ' ESC
>   KeyLeft% =3D Keyboard%(37)
>   KeyUp% =3D Keyboard%(38)
>   KeyRight% =3D Keyboard%(39)
>   KeyDown% =3D Keyboard%(40)
>   KeyBut1% =3D GetKeyState(16) ' SHIFT
>   KeyBut2% =3D GetKeyState(17) ' STRG
>   KeyBut3% =3D GetKeyState(18) ' STRG
>   Keybut4% =3D GetKeyState(32) ' SPACE
>=20
>   If KeyLeft% Then
>     Sub SpriteSX%(0), 2
>   EndIf
>   If KeyRight% Then
>     Add SpriteSX%(0), 2
>   EndIf
>   If KeyUp% Then
>     Sub SpriteSY%(0), 2
>   EndIf
>   If KeyDown% Then
>     Add SpriteSY%(0), 2
>   EndIf
>=20
>   Add SpriteX%(0), SpriteSX%(0)
>   Add SpriteY%(0), SpriteSY%(0)
>=20
>=20
>=20
> Return
> >Procedure Ende
>   EndDCs
>   EndPens
> Return
> >Procedure NewMDC(NewW%, NewH%)
>   MdcNew% =3D CreateCompatibleDC(Scrn%)
>   HbmNew% =3D CreateCompatibleBitmap(Scrn%, NewW%,
> NewH%)
>   HboNew% =3D SelectObject(MdcNew%, HbmNew%)
>   Mdc%(MDC_Count%) =3D MdcNew%
>   Hbm%(MDC_Count%) =3D HbmNew%
>   Hbo%(MDC_Count%) =3D HboNew%
>   Inc MDC_Count%
> Return
> >Procedure EndDCs
>   For A% =3D 0 To MDC_Count% - 1
>     MdcNew% =3D Mdc%(A%)
>     HbmNew% =3D Hbm%(A%)
>     HboNew% =3D Hbo%(A%)
>     ~SelectObject(MdcNew%, HboNew%)
>     FreeBmp HbmNew%
>     ~DeleteDC(MdcNew%)
>   Next A%
> Return
> >Procedure EndPens
>   For A% =3D 0 To 32
>     ~DeleteObject(Pen%(A%))
>   Next A%
> Return
> >Procedure GfxEngineInit
>   CharW% =3D Div(Xmax%, CharsAnzXScrn%)
>   XPosMax% =3D Mul(XposMaxCh%, CharW%)
>   YPosMax% =3D Mul(YposMaxCh%, CharW%)
>   For A% =3D 0 To 32
>     Pen%(A%) =3D CreatePen(0, 9, RGB(A% * 8, 128 - A%
> * 4, $FF))
>   Next A%
> Return
> >Procedure GfxEngine
>   ViewX% =3D Max(Min(ViewX%, XPosMax%), 0)
>   ViewY% =3D Max(Min(ViewY%, YPosMax%), 0)
>   ViewBg1X% =3D Max(Min(ViewX% / 4, XPosMax%), 0)
>   ViewBg1Y% =3D Max(Min(ViewY% / 4, YPosMax%), 0)
>   ViewBg2X% =3D Max(Min(ViewX% / 2, XPosMax%), 0)
>   ViewBg2Y% =3D Max(Min(ViewY% / 2, YPosMax%), 0)
>   ViewFg1X% =3D Max(Min(ViewX%, XPosMax%), 0)
>   ViewFg1Y% =3D Max(Min(ViewY%, YPosMax%), 0)
>   ViewFg2X% =3D Max(Min(ViewX%, XPosMax%), 0)
>   ViewFg2Y% =3D Max(Min(ViewY%, YPosMax%), 0)
>   Ground
>   PeekEvent
>   BackGroundLayer1
>   PeekEvent
>   BackGroundLayer2
>   PeekEvent
>   ForeGroundLayer1
>   PeekEvent
>   SpriteLayer
>   PeekEvent
>   ForeGroundLayer2
>   PeekEvent
>   BitBlt GfxDC%, 0, 0, Xmax%, Ymax%, Scrn%, 0, 0
> Return
> >Procedure Ground
>   Select GroundType%
>   Case 0
>     For A% =3D 0 To 480 Step 16
>       B% =3D Add(A%, 0)' 8)
>       D% =3D Add(B%, 9)
>       C% =3D Div(A%, 16)
>       ~SelectObject(GfxDC%, Pen%(C%))
>       PeekEvent
>       ~Rectangle(GfxDC%, 0, B%, Xmax%, D%) ' Faster
> than ~MoveTo ... ~LineTo
>     Next A%
>   Case 1
>     ~PatBlt(GfxDC%, 0, 0, Xmax%, Ymax%,
> BLACKNESS)'PATCOPY)'WHITENESS)
>   EndSelect
> Return
> >Procedure BackGroundLayer1 ' Lowest Priority
>   ViewBg1ChX% =3D Div(ViewBg1X%, CharW%)
>   ViewBg1ChY% =3D Div(ViewBg1Y%, CharW%)
>   OffsetBg1X% =3D Mod(ViewBg1X%, CharW%)
>   OffsetBg1Y% =3D Mod(ViewBg1Y%, CharW%)
>   For A% =3D 0 To CharsAnzXScrn%
>     XDrwHlp%(A%) =3D Mul(A%, CharW%)
>     Sub XDrwHlp%(A%), OffsetBg1X%
>   Next A%
>   For B% =3D 0 To CharsAnzYScrn%
>     Y% =3D Mul(B%, CharW%)
>     Sub Y%, OffsetBg1Y%
>     Y1% =3D Add(ViewBg1ChY%, B%)
>     For A% =3D 0 To CharsAnzXScrn%
>       X1% =3D Add(ViewBg1ChX%, A%)
>       X% =3D XDrwHlp%(A%)
>       C% =3D BGLayer1%(X1%, Y1%)
>       D% =3D And(C%, $FFFF)
>       E% =3D CharMode%(D%)
>       Select E%
>       Case 1
>         BitBlt CharDC%, CharOrX%(D%), CharOrY%(D%),
> CharW%, CharW%, GfxDC%, X%, Y%
>       Case 2
>         BitBlt CharDC%, CharAndX%(D%),
> CharAndY%(D%), CharW%, CharW%, GfxDC%, X%, Y%,
> SRCAND
>         BitBlt CharDC%, CharOrX%(D%), CharOrY%(D%),
> CharW%, CharW%, GfxDC%, X%, Y%, SRCPAINT
>       EndSelect
>     Next A%
>   Next B%
> Return
> >Procedure BackGroundLayer2
>   ViewBg2ChX% =3D Div(ViewBg2X%, CharW%)
>   ViewBg2ChY% =3D Div(ViewBg2Y%, CharW%)
>   OffsetBg2X% =3D Mod(ViewBg2X%, CharW%)
>   OffsetBg2Y% =3D Mod(ViewBg2Y%, CharW%)
>   For A% =3D 0 To CharsAnzXScrn%
>     XDrwHlp%(A%) =3D Mul(A%, CharW%)
>     Sub XDrwHlp%(A%), OffsetBg2X%
>   Next A%
>   For B% =3D 0 To CharsAnzYScrn%
>     Y% =3D Mul(B%, CharW%)
>     Sub Y%, OffsetBg2Y%
>     Y1% =3D Add(ViewBg2ChY%, B%)
>     For A% =3D 0 To CharsAnzXScrn%
>       X1% =3D Add(ViewBg2ChX%, A%)
>       X% =3D XDrwHlp%(A%)
>       C% =3D BGLayer2%(X1%, Y1%)
>       D% =3D And(C%, $FFFF)
>       E% =3D CharMode%(D%)
>       Select E%
>       Case 1
>         BitBlt CharDC%, CharOrX%(D%), CharOrY%(D%),
> CharW%, CharW%, GfxDC%, X%, Y%
>       Case 2
>         BitBlt CharDC%, CharAndX%(D%),
> CharAndY%(D%), CharW%, CharW%, GfxDC%, X%, Y%,
> SRCAND
>         BitBlt CharDC%, CharOrX%(D%), CharOrY%(D%),
> CharW%, CharW%, GfxDC%, X%, Y%, SRCPAINT
>       EndSelect
>     Next A%
>   Next B%
> Return
> >Procedure ForeGroundLayer1 ' Foreground Low
> Priority
>   ViewFg1ChX% =3D Div(ViewFg1X%, CharW%)
>   ViewFg1ChY% =3D Div(ViewFg1Y%, CharW%)
>   OffsetFg1X% =3D Mod(ViewFg1X%, CharW%)
>   OffsetFg1Y% =3D Mod(ViewFg1Y%, CharW%)
>   For A% =3D 0 To CharsAnzXScrn%
>     XDrwHlp%(A%) =3D Mul(A%, CharW%)
>     Sub XDrwHlp%(A%), OffsetFg1X%
>   Next A%
>   For B% =3D 0 To CharsAnzYScrn%
>     Y% =3D Mul(B%, CharW%)
>     Sub Y%, OffsetFg1Y%
>     Y1% =3D Add(ViewFg1ChY%, B%)
>     For A% =3D 0 To CharsAnzXScrn%
>       X1% =3D Add(ViewFg1ChX%, A%)
>       X% =3D XDrwHlp%(A%)
>       C% =3D FGLayer1%(X1%, Y1%)
>       D% =3D And(C%, $FFFF)
>       E% =3D CharMode%(D%)
>       Select E%
>       Case 1
>         BitBlt CharDC%, CharOrX%(D%), CharOrY%(D%),
> CharW%, CharW%, GfxDC%, X%, Y%
>       Case 2
>         BitBlt CharDC%, CharAndX%(D%),
> CharAndY%(D%), CharW%, CharW%, GfxDC%, X%, Y%,
> SRCAND
>         BitBlt CharDC%, CharOrX%(D%), CharOrY%(D%),
> CharW%, CharW%, GfxDC%, X%, Y%, SRCPAINT
>       EndSelect
>     Next A%
>   Next B%
> Return
> >Procedure SpriteLayer
>   For A% =3D 0 To Sprites%
>     B% =3D SpriteShp%(A%)
>     If B% Then
>       W% =3D ShapeW%(B%)
>       H% =3D ShapeH%(B%)
>       E% =3D ShapeM%(B%)
>       X% =3D SpriteX%(A%)
>       Y% =3D SpriteY%(A%)
>       Select E%
>       Case 1
>         BitBlt ShapeOrDC%(B%), ShapeOrX%(B%),
> ShapeOrY%(B%), W%, H%, GfxDC%, X%, Y%
>       Case 2
>         BitBlt ShapeAndDC%(B%), ShapeAndX%(B%),
> ShapeAndY%(B%), W%, H%, GfxDC%, X%, Y%, SRCAND
>         BitBlt ShapeOrDC%(B%), ShapeOrX%(B%),
> ShapeOrY%(B%), W%, H%, GfxDC%, X%, Y%, SRCPAINT
>       EndSelect
>     EndIf
>   Next A%
> Return
> >Procedure ForeGroundLayer2 ' Foreground High
> Priority
>   ViewFg2ChX% =3D Div(ViewFg2X%, CharW%)
>   ViewFg2ChY% =3D Div(ViewFg2Y%, CharW%)
>   OffsetFg2X% =3D Mod(ViewFg2X%, CharW%)
>   OffsetFg2Y% =3D Mod(ViewFg2Y%, CharW%)
>   For A% =3D 0 To CharsAnzXScrn%
>     XDrwHlp%(A%) =3D Mul(A%, CharW%)
>     Sub XDrwHlp%(A%), OffsetFg2X%
>   Next A%
>   For B% =3D 0 To CharsAnzYScrn%
>     Y% =3D Mul(B%, CharW%)
>     Sub Y%, OffsetFg2Y%
>     Y1% =3D Add(ViewFg2ChY%, B%)
>     For A% =3D 0 To CharsAnzXScrn%
>       X1% =3D Add(ViewFg2ChX%, A%)
>       X% =3D XDrwHlp%(A%)
>       C% =3D FGLayer2%(X1%, Y1%)
>       D% =3D And(C%, $FFFF)
>       E% =3D CharMode%(D%)
>       Select E%
>       Case 1
>         BitBlt CharDC%, CharOrX%(D%), CharOrY%(D%),
> CharW%, CharW%, GfxDC%, X%, Y%
>       Case 2
>         BitBlt CharDC%, CharAndX%(D%),
> CharAndY%(D%), CharW%, CharW%, GfxDC%, X%, Y%,
> SRCAND
>         BitBlt CharDC%, CharOrX%(D%), CharOrY%(D%),
> CharW%, CharW%, GfxDC%, X%, Y%, SRCPAINT
>       EndSelect
>     Next A%
>   Next B%
> Return
> >Procedure SetFPS(Fps%) ' Framerate in Frames pro
> Sekunde setzen
>   FrameTime% =3D Div(1000, Fps%)
>   Dec FrameTime%
> >Procedure Sync '         Auf die Framerate
> syncronisieren
>   DrawPower% =3D oTimer - OldTime%
>   Do
>     Time% =3D oTimer
>     Delay% =3D Time% - OldTime%
>     If Delay% < 0 Then Delay% =3D FrameTime%
>     PeekEvent
>     Exit If Delay% > FrameTime%
>   Loop
>   OldTime% =3D Time%
> Return
> $DatFile
> $ExeName =3D E:\Eigene
> Dateien\GB32\Scroller\Scroller.Exe
> $FileDescription =3D -<({[]})>-
> $Comments =3D Autor: Franz-Xaver Schweiger
> $CompanyName =3D Franz-Xaver Schweiger
> $LegalCopyright =3D =A9 2000 Franz-Xaver Schweiger
> $LanguageId =3D 0407
> $FileVersion =3D %d.%d.%d.%d
> $ProductVersion =3D %d.%d.%d.%d
> $DatFile
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Okay no doubt about it you're really good at
the AND/OR/XOR mathematics !  :)

However, it might be simpler to:
IF GetKeyState(27)<0 THEN >> Exit Program

You can have fun and go silly with:

IF @ESC<0 THEN >> Exit Program

FUNCTION ESC
RETURN GetKeyState(27)

And keep all these nifty functions and stuff
ready to ASCII INSERT to any program for convenience.

If you're going to read multiple raw keystrokes,
you can use:

DIM RawKey|(255)
~GetKeyboardState(V:RawChar|(0))

(( All 256 BYTE elements of RawKey now
   contain every raw keystroke ))

Doing it this way does a one pass read for
raw keystrokes.  If you use multiple occurances
of GETKEYSTATE, like over 30, the results will
hiccup a bit cause you're resetting reading
the keys each time.

Remember BYTE variables can't be negative so
the results will come back as > 127 rather then
< 0 (zero).

Hope This Helps !

Sincerely,
David W.

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> List Member "franz-xaver.schweiger@debitel.net"
> <franz-xaver.schweiger@debitel.net> wrote:
> I found the Error:
> I forgot to mask the value with 128
> Key%=And(GetKeyState(Number) ,128)
> 
> The new Keyboard-Procedure works (I can move the
> Worm correct now).
> 
> Procedure KeyBoard
>   SpriteSX%(0) = 0
>   SpriteSY%(0) = 0
> 
>   KeyExit% = And(GetKeyState(27), 128) ' ESC
>   KeyLeft% = And(GetKeyState(37), 128)
>   KeyUp% = And(GetKeyState(38), 128)
>   KeyRight% = And(GetKeyState(39), 128)
>   KeyDown% = And(GetKeyState(40), 128)
>   KeyBut1% = And(GetKeyState(16), 128)
>   KeyBut2% = And(GetKeyState(17), 128) ' STRG
>   KeyBut3% = And(GetKeyState(18), 128) ' STRG
>   Keybut4% = And(GetKeyState(32), 128) ' SPACE
> 
>   If KeyLeft% Then
>     Sub SpriteSX%(0), 2
>   EndIf
>   If KeyRight% Then
>     Add SpriteSX%(0), 2
>   EndIf
>   If KeyUp% Then
>     Sub SpriteSY%(0), 2
>   EndIf
>   If KeyDown% Then
>     Add SpriteSY%(0), 2
>   EndIf
> 
>   Add SpriteX%(0), SpriteSX%(0)
>   Add SpriteY%(0), SpriteSY%(0)
> 
> Return



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--- Dale Bryant <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com>
> wrote:
> Hey David, that's great. Works well.
> dale
> 
> Dale Bryant

Hey Dale !
Haven't heard from you in a-while.  :)

Glad you like it !

Let's give a biggo hand to Tom Record tho for pointing
out this useful DLL tho !
Yaaaay Tom !!

Piggyback-Byter and new UNZIP DLL is getting installed
into all my major packages:

MomsDay, DadsDay, Dungeon, and Dungeon2

Private tools:
Gred2000, FontEdit, Imagizer, Quanth, and Pixmappr

LowBlur demo is really cheap stuff so it doesn't
get a thing, prolly remove it from my homepage
soon.  :)

Aaaaand you lot have been holding out on me !
Lookee at the 3 new commands I had to find on my
own..  HOW did I find them ?  I woke up early this
morning and manually went through every single command
in the help file was work but worth it..

INSERT - inserts a cell into an array scooting the
         others down
DELETE - deletes a cell from an array scooting the
         others up

GETNUMTASKS - returns the # of tasks window has !
Geesh !  You lot coulda told me to use this function
istead of the truly screwballing ways I did a
DOSSHELL !
:/

Let's reflect on my "progress" shall we ?

1. I made a LONG delay timer
   Sometimes hung windows cause the timer was in use

2. I made a sorta smart delay timer crashed less
   Caused I/O errors if I tried to access too soon

3. I wrote a machine-language assister in ASIC
   GFA expressed extreme disgust running my .COM

4. I accessed system file stuff in record data
   Better but cumbersome and rebooted often
   
5. I had to include a signature on every file created
   Limited access to PKUNZIP only hung sometimes

6. I wrote a QBasic driver assist SHELL
   GFA wouldn't stay compatible with shell arguments

7. I checked for the file that was supposed to be made
   access to PKUNZIP only and made some I/O errors

8. I created a dummy file made upon completion
   which still required a "hiccup timer" ?!
   My current technique prior to yesterday
   Even this SOMETIMES crashed GFA for no reason

And all this could have been done a gazillion times
easier with:

PROCEDURE MyShell(T$)
  LOCAL GNT=GetNumTasks()
  DEFMOUSE 2
  SHELL T$
  DO
    PEEKEVENT
  UNTIL GetNumTasks()=GNT
  DEFMOUSE 0
RETURN

I ran my TestShel program using this MYSHELL routine
for over 8 hours last nite doing 1 random shell
command a second which would crash all my other
techniques in less then a minute.  This was my
"workbench" to test my new SHELL techniques.

It never crashed once.  The table in the morning
read:

. . .
Task #479 >> SUCCESS
Task #480 >> SUCCESS

480 random SHELL tasks assigned in 8 hours
480 completed
  0 failures

hit a key

I hit CTRL-ALT-DEL to see if there were any
_OldExecDos shells stuck in memory.  None.

I checked drive C to see if any memory got
unnecessarily munched for virtual space.  None.

Plink !  Perfection !  No crashing, no fussing,
no system hanging, no trailing _OldExecDos
hidden files that GFA made, no bad system reads,
no seek error violations, no I/O error file
allocations, no rebooting, and no unnecessary
swap space lost virtual to drive C...

Just please tell me NONE of you knew about this
function to ease my insanity !  :)

Sincerely,
David W.

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David Wicker schrieb:

> List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Holy Bunches of BANANAS !!
>
> Why in the world are you using GLOBAL this way ?
>
> O-k..  Maybe you're from QBee..  :)
>

This programm is a GB32 - Listing, i have sended this programm to
the wrong mailing-list.
GB32 requieres GLOBAL and LOCAL.

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David Wicker schrieb:

> List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Okay no doubt about it you're really good at
> the AND/OR/XOR mathematics !  :)
>
> However, it might be simpler to:
> IF GetKeyState(27)<0 THEN >> Exit Program
>
> You can have fun and go silly with:
>
> IF @ESC<0 THEN >> Exit Program
>
> FUNCTION ESC
> RETURN GetKeyState(27)
>
> And keep all these nifty functions and stuff
> ready to ASCII INSERT to any program for convenience.
>
> If you're going to read multiple raw keystrokes,
> you can use:
>
> DIM RawKey|(255)
> ~GetKeyboardState(V:RawChar|(0))
>
> (( All 256 BYTE elements of RawKey now
>    contain every raw keystroke ))
>
> Doing it this way does a one pass read for
> raw keystrokes.  If you use multiple occurances
> of GETKEYSTATE, like over 30, the results will
> hiccup a bit cause you're resetting reading
> the keys each time.
>
> Remember BYTE variables can't be negative so
> the results will come back as > 127 rather then
> < 0 (zero).
>
> Hope This Helps !
>
> Sincerely,
> David W.
>

Thank You for this good tips.


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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> This programm is a GB32 - Listing, i have sended
> this programm to
> the wrong mailing-list.
> GB32 requieres GLOBAL and LOCAL.

Sooo all the good videogames are getting written
in GFA32 ?  Do you need to declare GLOBAL variables
like that in there ?

Unless you're doing some really high-order graphics
and audio stuff your game may run just perfect in
GFA16 and I know that I certainly would =LOVE= to
have you in GFA16 seeing as how I'm about the only
gamewriter next to Russell, Roland, and You-Long
for his card game.

Checkout my webpage.  If you're into writing
videogames
graphics, music, RPGs, and the like, what I'm working
on may interest you.

My ultimate goal ?  To write a very GOOD RPG
Generator !

Sooo what are you working on ?

Sincerely,
David W.

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1. Find a good spot for take-off.

2. Close eyes.  Think bird thoughts.

3. Spread arms.  Fly.
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hey !

Glad to help out !  :)
Are you the only gamewriter in GFA32 or are there
others in there like you ?

Sincerely,
David W.

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> List Member "franz-xaver.schweiger@debitel.net"
> <franz-xaver.schweiger@debitel.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> David Wicker schrieb:
> 
> > List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Okay no doubt about it you're really good at
> > the AND/OR/XOR mathematics !  :)
> >
> > However, it might be simpler to:
> > IF GetKeyState(27)<0 THEN >> Exit Program
> >
> > You can have fun and go silly with:
> >
> > IF @ESC<0 THEN >> Exit Program
> >
> > FUNCTION ESC
> > RETURN GetKeyState(27)
> >
> > And keep all these nifty functions and stuff
> > ready to ASCII INSERT to any program for
> convenience.
> >
> > If you're going to read multiple raw keystrokes,
> > you can use:
> >
> > DIM RawKey|(255)
> > ~GetKeyboardState(V:RawChar|(0))
> >
> > (( All 256 BYTE elements of RawKey now
> >    contain every raw keystroke ))
> >
> > Doing it this way does a one pass read for
> > raw keystrokes.  If you use multiple occurances
> > of GETKEYSTATE, like over 30, the results will
> > hiccup a bit cause you're resetting reading
> > the keys each time.
> >
> > Remember BYTE variables can't be negative so
> > the results will come back as > 127 rather then
> > < 0 (zero).
> >
> > Hope This Helps !
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > David W.
> >
> 
> Thank You for this good tips.
> 
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Hi David,
If you look in the API section of the GFAWHELP file you will find lot of API
calls like this one.
dale

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> List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> --- Dale Bryant <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> > List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com>
> > wrote:
> > Hey David, that's great. Works well.
> > dale
> >
> > Dale Bryant
>
> Hey Dale !
> Haven't heard from you in a-while.  :)
>
> Glad you like it !
>
> Let's give a biggo hand to Tom Record tho for pointing
> out this useful DLL tho !
> Yaaaay Tom !!
>
> Piggyback-Byter and new UNZIP DLL is getting installed
> into all my major packages:
>
> MomsDay, DadsDay, Dungeon, and Dungeon2
>
> Private tools:
> Gred2000, FontEdit, Imagizer, Quanth, and Pixmappr
>
> LowBlur demo is really cheap stuff so it doesn't
> get a thing, prolly remove it from my homepage
> soon.  :)
>
> Aaaaand you lot have been holding out on me !
> Lookee at the 3 new commands I had to find on my
> own..  HOW did I find them ?  I woke up early this
> morning and manually went through every single command
> in the help file was work but worth it..
>
> INSERT - inserts a cell into an array scooting the
>          others down
> DELETE - deletes a cell from an array scooting the
>          others up
>
> GETNUMTASKS - returns the # of tasks window has !
> Geesh !  You lot coulda told me to use this function
> istead of the truly screwballing ways I did a
> DOSSHELL !
> :/
>
> Let's reflect on my "progress" shall we ?
>
> 1. I made a LONG delay timer
>    Sometimes hung windows cause the timer was in use
>
> 2. I made a sorta smart delay timer crashed less
>    Caused I/O errors if I tried to access too soon
>
> 3. I wrote a machine-language assister in ASIC
>    GFA expressed extreme disgust running my .COM
>
> 4. I accessed system file stuff in record data
>    Better but cumbersome and rebooted often
>
> 5. I had to include a signature on every file created
>    Limited access to PKUNZIP only hung sometimes
>
> 6. I wrote a QBasic driver assist SHELL
>    GFA wouldn't stay compatible with shell arguments
>
> 7. I checked for the file that was supposed to be made
>    access to PKUNZIP only and made some I/O errors
>
> 8. I created a dummy file made upon completion
>    which still required a "hiccup timer" ?!
>    My current technique prior to yesterday
>    Even this SOMETIMES crashed GFA for no reason
>
> And all this could have been done a gazillion times
> easier with:
>
> PROCEDURE MyShell(T$)
>   LOCAL GNT=GetNumTasks()
>   DEFMOUSE 2
>   SHELL T$
>   DO
>     PEEKEVENT
>   UNTIL GetNumTasks()=GNT
>   DEFMOUSE 0
> RETURN
>
> I ran my TestShel program using this MYSHELL routine
> for over 8 hours last nite doing 1 random shell
> command a second which would crash all my other
> techniques in less then a minute.  This was my
> "workbench" to test my new SHELL techniques.
>
> It never crashed once.  The table in the morning
> read:
>
> . . .
> Task #479 >> SUCCESS
> Task #480 >> SUCCESS
>
> 480 random SHELL tasks assigned in 8 hours
> 480 completed
>   0 failures
>
> hit a key
>
> I hit CTRL-ALT-DEL to see if there were any
> _OldExecDos shells stuck in memory.  None.
>
> I checked drive C to see if any memory got
> unnecessarily munched for virtual space.  None.
>
> Plink !  Perfection !  No crashing, no fussing,
> no system hanging, no trailing _OldExecDos
> hidden files that GFA made, no bad system reads,
> no seek error violations, no I/O error file
> allocations, no rebooting, and no unnecessary
> swap space lost virtual to drive C...
>
> Just please tell me NONE of you knew about this
> function to ease my insanity !  :)
>
> Sincerely,
> David W.
>
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi Dale:

Well reading the next letter from Tom,
I guess I am a pretty decent programmer after all.
You guys type all these lines cause you don't fidget
with the controls or really know what's going on in
so much coding ?  That's not good.  I =HATE= to
program that way myself and avoid it at every
opportunity.  I'm all quirking cause I gotta use
2 line for Windowlock and 3 for MIDI notes cause
even that makes me think I'm writing code too big
since I don't really understand it..

* On a positive note Russell, the latest addition
  you changed for the master-record Windowlock is
  very good and I'm sorta understanding all of it
  now..  Not quite there but getting there.  :)

> If you look in the API section of the GFAWHELP file
> you will find lot of API
> calls like this one.

That may be, but how many examples of these API
are listed in 4-5 lines only ?  Why have code so
big ??  QBasic had bare bones help, it wrote only
enough code in the example so the barest inkling of
understanding could be seen about it.  Advanced
programmers took that same example and expanded on it.

When you have an over 200 line program describing
and "helping?" you learn 1 (one) command, it's not
very helpful..  :/

Okay here's a few rules I live by.

+ Question everything !
+ Accept nothing !
+ Attempt the impossible every chance you get
+ Do something before someone says it cannot be done !
+ Pride yourself for writing tight elegant coding !
+ Be <re@7ive ! <-- most important one !  ^o^

There was not source code included with the .DLL
so I don't know what makes the Unzip tick..
I won't need or want the source if I can merge
the .DLL to the .EXE without the source.

Roland, can you please show me how to include your
Unzip.DLL direct inside an executable so when you
Unzip a package, there is only 1 executable ONLY ?

Father's day is to-morrow and I've gotta choice of
bringing over a 1.4meg .EXE file or 590k file !
I'd like to do the other and I can if I can get your
DLL inside the .EXE .  Yes, your UNZIP is THAT good
and useful !  the 590k single .EXE compresses down
1 (one) % (percent) in PKZIP for total storage !

Since I have a 100% effective DOSSHELL now
I'm unearthing PKUNZJR for Dad as a backup cause I
like that 590k size file better then the 1.4meg !

On a lighter note, since my RawJukebox is just for
me, including the <20k DLL around it is fine with me.
Incidentally, my RawJukebox is FLYING very quickly
now to help me sort out the quadzillion MIDIs.
I never realized how slow DOSSHELL is in GFA !

Please let me know how to merge your DLL into a single
.EXE for my pro packages tho like Postcardware..

If you want, after I get =1= postcard (which I haven't
yet), I'll send you one too if you would like a
postcard too !  :)

Thanks !

Sincerely,
David W.


--- Dale Bryant <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com>
> wrote:
> Hi David,
> If you look in the API section of the GFAWHELP file
> you will find lot of API
> calls like this one.
> dale
> 
> Dale Bryant
> http://gfawhelp.com
> http://gfawhelp.gfa.net
> adbryant@msn.com
> adbryant@gfa.net
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Wicker" <dw817@yahoo.com>
> To: <gfabasic@gfa.net>
> Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2000 11:09 AM
> Subject: Re: [gfabasic] Simplify ! (Source Enclosed)
> 
> 
> > List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > --- Dale Bryant <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> > > List Member "Dale Bryant"
> <adbryant@email.msn.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > Hey David, that's great. Works well.
> > > dale
> > >
> > > Dale Bryant
> >
> > Hey Dale !
> > Haven't heard from you in a-while.  :)
> >
> > Glad you like it !
> >
> > Let's give a biggo hand to Tom Record tho for
> pointing
> > out this useful DLL tho !
> > Yaaaay Tom !!
> >
> > Piggyback-Byter and new UNZIP DLL is getting
> installed
> > into all my major packages:
> >
> > MomsDay, DadsDay, Dungeon, and Dungeon2
> >
> > Private tools:
> > Gred2000, FontEdit, Imagizer, Quanth, and Pixmappr
> >
> > LowBlur demo is really cheap stuff so it doesn't
> > get a thing, prolly remove it from my homepage
> > soon.  :)
> >
> > Aaaaand you lot have been holding out on me !
> > Lookee at the 3 new commands I had to find on my
> > own..  HOW did I find them ?  I woke up early this
> > morning and manually went through every single
> command
> > in the help file was work but worth it..
> >
> > INSERT - inserts a cell into an array scooting the
> >          others down
> > DELETE - deletes a cell from an array scooting the
> >          others up
> >
> > GETNUMTASKS - returns the # of tasks window has !
> > Geesh !  You lot coulda told me to use this
> function
> > istead of the truly screwballing ways I did a
> > DOSSHELL !
> > :/
> >
> > Let's reflect on my "progress" shall we ?
> >
> > 1. I made a LONG delay timer
> >    Sometimes hung windows cause the timer was in
> use
> >
> > 2. I made a sorta smart delay timer crashed less
> >    Caused I/O errors if I tried to access too soon
> >
> > 3. I wrote a machine-language assister in ASIC
> >    GFA expressed extreme disgust running my .COM
> >
> > 4. I accessed system file stuff in record data
> >    Better but cumbersome and rebooted often
> >
> > 5. I had to include a signature on every file
> created
> >    Limited access to PKUNZIP only hung sometimes
> >
> > 6. I wrote a QBasic driver assist SHELL
> >    GFA wouldn't stay compatible with shell
> arguments
> >
> > 7. I checked for the file that was supposed to be
> made
> >    access to PKUNZIP only and made some I/O errors
> >
> > 8. I created a dummy file made upon completion
> >    which still required a "hiccup timer" ?!
> >    My current technique prior to yesterday
> >    Even this SOMETIMES crashed GFA for no reason
> >
> > And all this could have been done a gazillion
> times
> > easier with:
> >
> > PROCEDURE MyShell(T$)
> >   LOCAL GNT=GetNumTasks()
> >   DEFMOUSE 2
> >   SHELL T$
> >   DO
> >     PEEKEVENT
> >   UNTIL GetNumTasks()=GNT
> >   DEFMOUSE 0
> > RETURN
> >
> > I ran my TestShel program using this MYSHELL
> routine
> > for over 8 hours last nite doing 1 random shell
> > command a second which would crash all my other
> > techniques in less then a minute.  This was my
> > "workbench" to test my new SHELL techniques.
> >
> > It never crashed once.  The table in the morning
> > read:
> >
> > . . .
> > Task #479 >> SUCCESS
> > Task #480 >> SUCCESS
> >
> > 480 random SHELL tasks assigned in 8 hours
> > 480 completed
> >   0 failures
> >
> > hit a key
> >
> > I hit CTRL-ALT-DEL to see if there were any
> > _OldExecDos shells stuck in memory.  None.
> >
> > I checked drive C to see if any memory got
> > unnecessarily munched for virtual space.  None.
> >
> > Plink !  Perfection !  No crashing, no fussing,
> > no system hanging, no trailing _OldExecDos
> > hidden files that GFA made, no bad system reads,
> > no seek error violations, no I/O error file
> > allocations, no rebooting, and no unnecessary
> > swap space lost virtual to drive C...
> >
> > Just please tell me NONE of you knew about this
> > function to ease my insanity !  :)
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > David W.
> >
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
H David,
David, it does not take all the code in the GFAHELP API examples to use the
API. They are working examples  so it can be seen how they work. GetNumTask
takes one line
 nNumTask& = GetNumTasks()
Of course you have to look at nNumTask& <G>



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List Member "Russell Hayward" <russ@softhome.net> wrote:

Hi David,

> There was not source code included with the .DLL
> so I don't know what makes the Unzip tick..
> I won't need or want the source if I can merge
> the .DLL to the .EXE without the source.

I thought the source code was in the zip, it was in the version I have. It's
written in Pascal, do you want me to send it to you?

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com>
> wrote:
> H David,
> David, it does not take all the code in the GFAHELP
> API examples to use the
> API. They are working examples  so it can be seen
> how they work. GetNumTask
> takes one line
>  nNumTask& = GetNumTasks()
> Of course you have to look at nNumTask& <G>
> Dale Bryant

Well Dale it's not in regular help
what is API is there a API help file ?

Most of these new commands I'm learning from
downloading rare GFA help files from individual
homepages that GFA apparently doesn't want
you to know about.

And hey I paid for compiler and I
still didn't get this help files..  :/

Paid for compiler and never received an
instruction manual at all got help file for it
from a secluded homepage too download.

I'd like to help write code but I gotta know ALL
the commands to do it.

I guess sometime I feel like Tom in his screen-savers
but its worse cause apparently you guys already
knowing these commands but let me burn out a few
motors in my head first before I find them.  :/

Sincerely,
David W.

Still can't get Dadsday.exe to run unless it has
somehow a "ghost" image of running the DLL from
GFABasic itself.  Weird stuff..  How do you stuff
a DLL like Unzip inside a true compiled EXE so when
you say DLL #1, "unzip.dll" it doesn't look on the
drive for it but says I know it internally my head.

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Pascal ??

Aggh !!  Arggh..  >Glurk!<

Sorry but that's a normal reaction.  :)

Nono..  Okay well do I have to have the .DLL
outside naked in the open with all my packages ?

That's no better then making .EXEs and carting
a visible GFARUN10.DLL with them.  :/

Sincerely,
David W.

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> Hi David,
> 
> > There was not source code included with the .DLL
> > so I don't know what makes the Unzip tick..
> > I won't need or want the source if I can merge
> > the .DLL to the .EXE without the source.
> 
> I thought the source code was in the zip, it was in
> the version I have. It's
> written in Pascal, do you want me to send it to you?
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List Member "Russell Hayward" <russ@softhome.net> wrote:

Hi David,

> Well Dale it's not in regular help
> what is API is there a API help file ?

API stands for Application Programming Interface, they are the command that
programs use to communicate with the operating system. They are the Windows
versions of DOS interrupts or GEMDOS or GEMAES calls on an Atari ST.

There is an API help file, and I believe you have it - win31wh.hlp. I'll
give you the URL if you don't have the help file, it is very useful.

HTH,
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
*19* Pascal files ??

(Russell I just checked and I do have the source*s*)

Huum..  Let me see..  Am I going to spend the
next 3 years converting over these *19* files to GFA
to unzip a program or am I gonna use PKUNZJR now that
I got GetNumTasks() for 100% correct DOSSHELLs, which
I can do in less then 60 seconds of typing..

Huum..
  Let me see..
    Boy this is a toughie..

I'm gonna hazard a guess but I'll go with the
GetNumTasks behind door #1 Bob.

Sooo what do I win ??  :)
Whattya mean my answer must be in the form of a
question ??

Sincerely,
David W.

On a lighter note, I've learned some new ways to
convert bit data so Bit8To7 is gonna get overhauled
a bit !  Mostly for the loving and cherished care to
rediscovered PkUnzJr.  Oh and I am sooo sorry my
little shnookums.  Whose your boo boo baby ?  There
was no-one but you PkUnzJr and no-one else my little
googee dumpling !
*KISS* *KISS*

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> Hi David,
> 
> > There was not source code included with the .DLL
> > so I don't know what makes the Unzip tick..
> > I won't need or want the source if I can merge
> > the .DLL to the .EXE without the source.
> 
> I thought the source code was in the zip, it was in
> the version I have. It's
> written in Pascal, do you want me to send it to you?
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Yes.  I have this help file.
That is where I found ShellExecute

I noticed that if SHELL is called while you are in
a different DOS SHELL the whole computer hangs.
This doesn't occur with EXEC but it has some of its
own problems.

I'd like to use ShellExecute but there doesn't
seem to be an easy way for the window to close
automatically after the shell completes..

What to do !  :/

Sincerely,
David W.

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> Hi David,
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> > Well Dale it's not in regular help
> > what is API is there a API help file ?
> 
> API stands for Application Programming Interface,
> they are the command that
> programs use to communicate with the operating
> system. They are the Windows
> versions of DOS interrupts or GEMDOS or GEMAES calls
> on an Atari ST.
> 
> There is an API help file, and I believe you have it
> - win31wh.hlp. I'll
> give you the URL if you don't have the help file, it
> is very useful.
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
A bunch of them have been translated already - they're in Dale's helpfile on
his site.
<G>
TomR.


At 01:29 AM 18/06/00 +0100, you wrote:
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>> Well Dale it's not in regular help
>> what is API is there a API help file ?
>
>API stands for Application Programming Interface, they are the command that
>programs use to communicate with the operating system. They are the Windows
>versions of DOS interrupts or GEMDOS or GEMAES calls on an Atari ST.
>
>There is an API help file, and I believe you have it - win31wh.hlp. I'll
>give you the URL if you don't have the help file, it is very useful.
>
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Well Happy Father's Day everyone !

Me I'm going with family to Olive Garden for a
nice dinner..

Let's see..  Tiramisu, Lasagna, and those
nice long little bread rolls with Italian dipping
sauce.  Hummm !!

True to my word I recompiled Dad's Day and
it's ready for download.  Although itself did
true good compression 2% (so it's a quick
download), it has UNZIP.DLL out in the open.
Yah deal with it till I get some feedback
or figure a ways a-round it !  :)

http://www.geocities.com/dw817/product/dadsday.zip
Nice 35 Classic music jukebox with sparkly cursor
shuffle, memory, and save-for-later ability.

Unzip.DLL DEFINITELY helped in this but I wanna
merge this with the .EXE somehow..

Shell ANYWAY you do it at all I've found hangs
the computer and for good if you happen to be in
a different DOS SHELL yourself maybe poking thru
files or anything..  Unzip.DLL is truly the way to
go for unzipping files.  I gotta give up my SHELL !
:/

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
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Okay I didn't write this to show up Tom's
screensaver.  I downloaded cause I curious okay.
but I would like this published please Dale to
show minimalistic coding !

I release freely 100% source and all on this Dale
cause I think I'm teaching something important
here.
[enclosed]

Change the *8 to a smaller # for slower scrolling..

There is no reason to have so many lines of coding !
I've had this problem with my QBee friends too.
They write bigger and bigger code and I asking say
what does this do.  They say I dunno.  I say why'd
you write it ?  Cause it fixes this.  Well why is
this messed up.  Cause the program's too big and
hard to follow ??  It's like tossing a frog at a
train wreck.  The frog doesn't like it and the
train only wonders where the tracks are !  :)

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List Member "franz-xaver.schweiger@debitel.net" <franz-xaver.schweiger@debitel.net> wrote:


David Wicker schrieb:

> Sooo all the good videogames are getting written
> in GFA32 ?  Do you need to declare GLOBAL variables
> like that in there ?
>
> Unless you're doing some really high-order graphics
> and audio stuff your game may run just perfect in
> GFA16 and I know that I certainly would =LOVE= to
> have you in GFA16 seeing as how I'm about the only
> gamewriter next to Russell, Roland, and You-Long
> for his card game.
>
> Checkout my webpage.  If you're into writing
> videogames
> graphics, music, RPGs, and the like, what I'm working
> on may interest you.
>
> My ultimate goal ?  To write a very GOOD RPG
> Generator !
>
> Sooo what are you working on ?
>
> Sincerely,
> David W.
>
> - + -
> How to pretend you can fly. (in 3 steps)
>
> 1. Find a good spot for take-off.
>
> 2. Close eyes.  Think bird thoughts.
>
> 3. Spread arms.  Fly.
> - + -

I relased a Tetris Clone Named Garlics written in GFA-Basic 16-Bit.
The Game is not finished (I must make many Levels, search MIDI -
Music-files and write the Manual for the Leveleditor).

You can download a beta-version at folow adress:
http://www.untergrund-spiele.de/downloads_e.htm

The system requirements:
-a fast PCI-Graphicboard (AGP-X2 recommandet)
-64MB RAM

I write now a Engine for Jump&Run and R-Type Games (The Worm-Demo
is a smal part of it) with 1 static Background-Layer, 2 moving Background
Layer,
1 Foreground Layer lower Priority as Sprite-Layer, 1 Forground Layer
higher
Priority than Sprite-Layer.
The System requirements:
- a AGP-X2 Graphicboard  with 16Bit or higher Colordepth (a ATI Rage128
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I will write the Engine so that it is easy to convert it to Gfa-Basic 16.

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I concede.
Thanks for showing me, David.
Ciao
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:

--- Tom Record
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> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> I concede.
> Thanks for showing me, David.
> Ciao
> TomR.

TOM PLEASE !!!

I'm =NOT= trying to compete against you at all.
Please, I just looked at the source code and it's
following the style which of all good programmers
that you are very expertise in what you are doing
but it's big and that's probably not your fault
cause you haven't seen enough tight coding to know
how to do things like this yet.

If it offends that I've written something you've
done I do apologize !  I just thought this would be
a good way to demonstrate minimalistic programming
which I've like seen 0 (zero) of in here.

Dale said it, David rides a different train.
Yah well sometimes its the hovercraft express
in Japan at 1000 mph.  >>>Vrooooooooomm>>  :)

Geesh I ran it on Dad's and it was like a
jet-powered squirrel with afterburners, ran so
fast I couldn't stop it, had to hit CTRL-ALT-DEL
to stop it !  Add

SETTIMER 1,1,1
at top and below this change

PEEKEVENT

to

GETEVENT

I know, I'm changing most of my coding to not
use PEEKEVENT because it runs too fast on some
computers so you can't access the mouse, keyboard
or anything.  Sooooo one big difference between yours
and mine is mine doesn't run 100% correctly on all
computers !  Yah I like taking short-cuts you know me
!

Sincerely,
David W.

Really Tom, I'm not trying to compete at all.
This principle can be applied towards just about any
program I've seen in here so far.

Work smarter not harder.  (Gentle Smile)

- + -
How to fish. (in 3 steps)

1. Find a good fishing spot.

2. Fish.  Relax.

3. If your luck is bad and you catch a fish,
   throw it back and repeat step 2.  :)
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
David in particular, others by default

I suspect my reaction to David's super-simplification of my scr display will
be or has
been taken as an attack on David.

NOT SO!

It was a voicing of my feelings at having toiled several days & nights to get a
clean routine working properly, to be shown that there is a much simpler way to
get there!  Sooooooo much simpler that it's idiotic, to say the least.  I'm back
to square one of the learning process.

Using David's methods, when a screensaver, etc., goes out, it will be nearly all
images - very little to bother with PKlite since it would be hard for it to find
even 1% reduction of the file.

I apologize for any offense taken or percieved - perhaps I'd better triple my
Prozac.  Sheesh!  It would be nice to be able to live again w/o pills!

David, may I ask your advice on making the change to simplifying everything?

TomR.

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
David
My reaction was just that... a reaction - aimed mostly at myself but perhaps NOT
worded right.  You appear to have NOT been hurt or offended... GOOD!  That was
certainly NOT my intention.

Will you coach me on picking up on your methods?

As for your stuff not running properly on all computers... I don't think ANYBODY
has 100% success w/ GFA-W(16).  It has to fight a bad problem on computers that
were upgraded to Win98 over Win95 & Win3.1.  OEM installations seem to be OK.

My computer w/ the flatbed is down at the moment, but the required postcard
is on
a ZIP100 somewhere in here.  It's not really a postcard tho... its normally sent
in an envelope because it is a picture made by placing cut straw on a black
velvet
background.  I have several - they're all from Indonesia.  With your taste
in art,
they should all please you.  I can't replace them - my parents are no longer in
Sumatra & over time I've lost contact with all I knew there.
TomR.



At 01:17 PM 18/06/00 -0700, you wrote:
>List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>--- Tom Record
><tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> List Member Tom Record
>> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> I concede.
>> Thanks for showing me, David.
>> Ciao
>> TomR.
>
>TOM PLEASE !!!
>
>I'm =NOT= trying to compete against you at all.
>Please, I just looked at the source code and it's
>following the style which of all good programmers
>that you are very expertise in what you are doing
>but it's big and that's probably not your fault
>cause you haven't seen enough tight coding to know
>how to do things like this yet.
>
>If it offends that I've written something you've
>done I do apologize !  I just thought this would be
>a good way to demonstrate minimalistic programming
>which I've like seen 0 (zero) of in here.
>
>Dale said it, David rides a different train.
>Yah well sometimes its the hovercraft express
>in Japan at 1000 mph.  >>>Vrooooooooomm>>  :)
>
>Geesh I ran it on Dad's and it was like a
>jet-powered squirrel with afterburners, ran so
>fast I couldn't stop it, had to hit CTRL-ALT-DEL
>to stop it !  Add
>
>SETTIMER 1,1,1
>at top and below this change
>
>PEEKEVENT
>
>to
>
>GETEVENT
>
>I know, I'm changing most of my coding to not
>use PEEKEVENT because it runs too fast on some
>computers so you can't access the mouse, keyboard
>or anything.  Sooooo one big difference between yours
>and mine is mine doesn't run 100% correctly on all
>computers !  Yah I like taking short-cuts you know me
>!
>
>Sincerely,
>David W.
>
>Really Tom, I'm not trying to compete at all.
>This principle can be applied towards just about any
>program I've seen in here so far.
>
>Work smarter not harder.  (Gentle Smile)
>
>- + -
>How to fish. (in 3 steps)
>
>1. Find a good fishing spot.
>
>2. Fish.  Relax.
>
>3. If your luck is bad and you catch a fish,
>   throw it back and repeat step 2.  :)
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hiya Tom !  Hadda nice Dads day !
Dad liked the classic music stuff asked where I
got the pix told him I got like a bunch a thousand
or so so he wants me bring 'em by sometime.  :)

--- Tom Record
<tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> David in particular, others by default
> 
> I suspect my reaction to David's
> super-simplification of my scr display will
> be or has
> been taken as an attack on David.
> 
> NOT SO!

Okay Tom..  Sorry for getting so worried or miffed.
I played a stunt like that where I worked one time
and the boss literally jumped down my throat
screaming "David what the hell you playing at trying
to make the whole company look stupid get outta
here you're fired!" yah that hurts to remember I'm
taking meds just like you to try an forget this
stuff.  Okay..  OKEE !!  I guess that's why they
paying all now cause they weren't supposing to fire
me right ??  Maaaan I'm all retired like and I still
get to watch Scooby Doo !  :)

> 
> It was a voicing of my feelings at having toiled
> several days & nights to get a
> clean routine working properly, to be shown that
> there is a much simpler way to
> get there!  Sooooooo much simpler that it's idiotic,
> to say the least.  I'm back
> to square one of the learning process.

Tom that was really mean what I did tho I mean
I work on computer damn near every 16 hours a day
and started out at age 10 where computer had little
memory.  Tell you what if you really like what I
did I not am answering okay the next message not
yet now but answering may be a little okay..

> 
> Using David's methods, when a screensaver, etc.,
> goes out, it will be nearly all
> images - very little to bother with PKlite since it
> would be hard for it to find
> even 1% reduction of the file.

Tom, send me a .JPG you want crunched down all meanie
in size and I'll use techniques I gotten over 3
years send it back then showing you how to do it.
Photos work best but cause I kinna know what I'm
doing can use just about anything.  :)
> 
> I apologize for any offense taken or percieved -
> perhaps I'd better triple my
> Prozac.  Sheesh!  It would be nice to be able to
> live again w/o pills!

Well..  Mr. IHateDavid all ways starts chewing on
me late at nite and my brain tries to make me wanna
kill myself so I say noaways got my meds take that I
don't feel so bad.

I dunno the reaction.  Its not nice I did.
I get like that at work sometime like a kid in a candy
store say oooooohh !!  I can do this better I can I
really REALLY can and they say Okay David do it and
I do and its all ways same scream yell get the hell
out of my sight god what are you playing it - Lor I'm
guessing glad not in this now.
> 
> David, may I ask your advice on making the change to
> simplifying everything?

PLEASE !  I want every one learning what they can from
this !  I did this stuff for fun years ago logic
horror like Dad calls it same say very clever and if
I'm working for them I usually get fired cause its
I guess put down the whole company's programmers or
something..  :/  They hand me forms say this is what
we using for 15 years now and I point out an error
and well I get fired again cause I'm not =SUPPOSE=
to find an error ???

Yes Tom that code I release freely cause its needed
so BAD in here !  (Gentle Smile)

Does PEEKEVENT not work at all on a really
REALLY fast computer ?  My Dad's got like a 350mhz.
GETEVENT is quirky and doesn't seem to run well
even with a SETTIMER 1,1,1

Sincerely,
David
> 
> TomR.
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> I write now a Engine for Jump&Run and R-Type Games (The Worm-Demo
> is a smal part of it)
> The System requirements:
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To get the best graphical performance for games one would use DirectX.

R-Type, great game!

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Hi to All

Does anyone know how to load and show animated cursors (*.CUR, *.ANI)?


Best Regards
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Greets Peter:

I'm going to refer you to someone that seems to
have all these special tasks covered well.

Lookup the homepage of Roland's because he has
done quite a-bit of this stuff already !
- - -

Dale, got the newsletter.  Very nice and USEFUL !

Russell I =3DMUST=3D agree that your DLG OPEN is
infinitely
better then FILESELECT !  The big help file I have
does cover it so there's no sense in not to use
it.

Regarding DLG FONT, is there a way to change the
window that shows a preview of the font ?  For
biggo work I like to have 48 or 64 sometimes.

Kudos on your excellent knowledge on DLG OPEN
commands !

It may not be apparent but I don't think there is
any paint program that records those 16 choices
when you exit their program so allow me to be
the first so when you come back anytime later
it remembers your top 16 favorites and allows
changes to them.

Also Russell, you are setting color red in
Col%=3DRGB(255,0,0)

But it is never actually seen in the system
color selector.  I put any value here and it
starts out Hue 160 R/G/B=3D0 no matter what.
Any ideas so I can edit the paint color [U]nder a
pixel to carry to the selector itself ?

Sincerely,
David W.

I've got my hands full working on 1st level
parallax scroller.

If it's not fast enough I may need your help in
somehow using APIs to speed it up.

Thanks !

--- Micha=B3_Sejfried <42810730@pro.onet.pl> wrote:
> Hi to All
>=20
> Does anyone know how to load and show animated
> cursors (*.CUR, *.ANI)?
>=20
>=20
> Best Regards
> Peter
>=20


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List Member "Russell Hayward" <russ@softhome.net> wrote:

Hi David,

> Also Russell, you are setting color red in
> Col%=RGB(255,0,0)
> 
> But it is never actually seen in the system
> color selector.  I put any value here and it
> starts out Hue 160 R/G/B=0 no matter what.
> Any ideas so I can edit the paint color [U]nder a
> pixel to carry to the selector itself ?

Sorry, forgot a flag, change it to this:

DLG COLOR WIN(1),CC_FULLOPEN | CC_RGBINIT,DefCols%(),Col%

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Wow !!

That is so neat !

Yep, I changed it from red to green pulls it right in!
Geesh why so many good Window programs not recall
everything where you left off like my Melody
programs, Jukebox, or otherwise ?

I got Gred2000 to remember you fav. path for all
of .BMP, .QIK (my own format), .JPG, .GIF, and
.ECC

Sincerely,
David W.

I hadn't forgotten your Bundle !
But I am REALLY caught up doodling with the
Parallax !  I've never had it run so effectively
before every time I written it was always slow !
Gotta check to see how many depth levels it can
do.  :)

Sincerely,
David W.

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> Hi David,
> 
> > Also Russell, you are setting color red in
> > Col%=RGB(255,0,0)
> > 
> > But it is never actually seen in the system
> > color selector.  I put any value here and it
> > starts out Hue 160 R/G/B=0 no matter what.
> > Any ideas so I can edit the paint color [U]nder a
> > pixel to carry to the selector itself ?
> 
> Sorry, forgot a flag, change it to this:
> 
> DLG COLOR WIN(1),CC_FULLOPEN |
> CC_RGBINIT,DefCols%(),Col%
> 
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Translation to PASCAL by Christian Ghisler

Chris advises that he cannot provide as *.lib, that & *.obj being MS "C",
& cannot be produced in PASCAL.

Therefore, unless & until someone versed in both decides to take a shot at it,
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Info, just in case anybody really cares...

Thot I'd come up with a good idea... cut large *.bmps into 20 pixel high strips,
batch-convert to *.jpg, then display re-assembled.  Good idea, lousy results!

nviewl16.dll & several normally excellent editors, batch-converting those *.bmp
strip images to *.jpg all pixelated hell out of the strip images!  NONE produced
decent *.jpg from the *.bmp!

Roland's *.lib & *.dll *do* display'em much faster, but since the quality is so
terrible, it's out of the question to go this route on large images.

I withdraw.
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:

Okay !  After quite a bit of hard work,
I got my Parallax Scroller written !
http://www.geocities.com/dw817/product/paralax1.zip

This is an essential graphic technique especially
useful for RPGs and of course, RPG Generators.

It's just the first step of it so the map is
random.

Russell, please let me know how to SYNC with the
screen refresh !  It's  INP &H3DA,8 which waits for
the 4th bit to be lit before continuing in DOS.

I can't seem to get this to work in Win98 !
I'd like to know cause I want super SMOOTH animation
just like a good Nintendo.  :)

Thanks !

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List Member Thomas Gonschor <thomas.gonschor@vph-bensberg.de> wrote:
Hi!

I have got a problem in using the compiled version of the attached
listing. If I run this programm in the interpreter, everything works
fine. But if I compile it then the dialog becomes gray after I have
moved it. So I think I must send a redraw to my own programm to let
it become gray by itself.

Has anyone got an idea?

Kind regards
Yours

Thomas

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List Member "Bev Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
I've got problems with the following routine:

PROCEDURE any
  REPEAT
  UNTIL INKEY$ = ""
  temp$ = "Press LEFT button; RIGHT exits program!"
  RGBCOLOR red,ltgray
  DRAWTEXT 7,wh - 21,wb - 200,wh - 5,temp$,style7
  @bell
  REPEAT
    @draw_time
    PAUSE 1
  UNTIL MOUSEK
  @Create_Statusbar
RETURN

if I press the either mouse button the routine exits ok but if the the right
button has been pressed, it also exits my program -- I use the right button
in my main routine as a quick exit. No matter what I try, nothing seems to
stop the an quick exit to the program. Any ideas would be appreciated!!!

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List Member Thomas Gonschor <thomas.gonschor@vph-bensberg.de> wrote:
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Hi!

I have got a problem in using the compiled version of the attached
listing. If I run this programm in the interpreter, everything works
fine. But if I compile it then the dialog becomes gray after I have
moved it. So I think I must send a redraw to my own programm to let
it become gray by itself.

Has anyone got an idea?

Kind regards
Yours

Thomas

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List Member Thomas Gonschor <thomas.gonschor@vph-bensberg.de> wrote:
Hi!

Has anyone experiences in using the ExitWindows-Command? I need a
list of possible parameters.

Kind regards
Yours

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Subject: Re: [gfabasic] unzipdll.dll aka unzip.dll
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Thanks Tom..

Well, that answers THAT question soooo I need to
hook it in for Append optionally a-long with the
GFARUN10.DLL.

We'll get there !  I know it's slow going but
we will get there.  :)

Sincerely,
David W.

--- Tom Record
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> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Translation to PASCAL by Christian Ghisler
> 
> Chris advises that he cannot provide as *.lib, that
> & *.obj being MS "C",
> & cannot be produced in PASCAL.
> 
> Therefore, unless & until someone versed in both
> decides to take a shot at it,
> the unzip *dll will NOT be available as a *.lib to
> be linked into a GFA-W(16)
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Greets Thomas:
(huuum I hadda cat named that once) :)

Chalk one up for the Purcha$ed compiler.
Not every program is going to run 100% as good
as the interpreter.

You can use APPEND however which makes a single
runtime with the interpreter's .EXE.

Sincerely,
David W.

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> Hi!
> 
> I have got a problem in using the compiled version
> of the attached
> listing. If I run this programm in the interpreter,
> everything works
> fine. But if I compile it then the dialog becomes
> gray after I have
> moved it. So I think I must send a redraw to my own
> programm to let
> it become gray by itself.
> 
> Has anyone got an idea?
> 
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Ah !  An EZ one.  :)

Bev very simply check for a CLICK and not a
HOLD.

You can do this via:

DO
  >> Dabble
UNTIL MOUSEK
. ^ Which is A-OK, and then

WHILE MOUSEK=2
  PEEKEVENT
WEND
. ^ Sit here till you let go of right button

Soo you gotta let go of that 2nd button to
continue.

Maaaan I gotta show you guys everything !
(Big Smile!)

Okay for those who read the comics !
PEEKEVENT is not the 100% lifeline to the
rest of window operations !  CORRECT placement
of PEEKEVENT ensures an accurate program tho !
For small delays it is perfectly OK to not use
a PEEKEVENT in a loop which saves off all the
messages you need.  Try not to use PEEKEVENT
except once in your program like a master-input
routine.  Your program will run VERY smoothly !

PEEKEVENT does release time to look at other
window tasks but using PEEKEVENT multiple times
WILL foul up the messages you get back !

Hope This Helps !

Sincerely,
David W.

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> 
> PROCEDURE any
>   REPEAT
>   UNTIL INKEY$ = ""
>   temp$ = "Press LEFT button; RIGHT exits program!"
>   RGBCOLOR red,ltgray
>   DRAWTEXT 7,wh - 21,wb - 200,wh - 5,temp$,style7
>   @bell
>   REPEAT
>     @draw_time
>     PAUSE 1
>   UNTIL MOUSEK
>   @Create_Statusbar
> RETURN
> 
> if I press the either mouse button the routine exits
> ok but if the the right
> button has been pressed, it also exits my program --
> I use the right button
> in my main routine as a quick exit. No matter what I
> try, nothing seems to
> stop the an quick exit to the program. Any ideas
> would be appreciated!!!
> 
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List Member "franz-xaver.schweiger@debitel.net" <franz-xaver.schweiger@debitel.net> wrote:
I relased a beta-version of my Tetris-clone "GARLICS".
You can download it at:
http://www.untergrund-spiele.de/downloads_e.htm
I wrote it in GFA-Basic 16.
The systemrequirements: -a fast PCI-Graphicboard (AGP-X2 recommandet for
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
'Exit Windows()


//ExitWindows()  :PRIMARY
OPENW #1
s%=MB_ICONQUESTION|MB_YESNO
m$="Do You Wish To Exit Windows"
m$=m$+" Windows"
t$="MENU SHELL"
MESSAGE m$,t$,s%,r&
//PRINT r&
IF r&=6           //no=7
  CLOSEW #1
  f!=ExitWindows(a%,w&)
  'f!: if FALSE, one or more applications have not yet terminated.
  'a%: must be 0.
  'w&: return value for DOS
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List Member Thomas Gonschor <thomas.gonschor@vph-bensberg.de> wrote:
Hi!

Has anyone experiences in using the ExitWindows-Command? I need a
list of possible parameters.

Kind regards
Yours

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Greets Franz:

Can ya get it down under a meg please ?
That's like a 90 minute download for me
at 7 megs !  (WHEW!)  What are you doing in
there to take so much space ?  :)

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member Barlik@aol.com wrote:
Bev,

Use:
 UNTIL MOUSEK=1

The '1' is the left button
2= right button
3= left and right buttons (together)
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List Member Thomas Gonschor <thomas.gonschor@vph-bensberg.de> wrote:
Hi Dale!

Many thanks for your listing.

I look for the parameters which can be set instead of 0 because there
are a few posibillities in shutting down windows, e. g. RESET or
REBOOT. The NULL let Windows shut down a once ...

Do you have got an idea?

Kind regards
Yours

Thomas

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>//ExitWindows()  :PRIMARY
>OPENW #1
>s%=3DMB_ICONQUESTION|MB_YESNO
>m$=3D"Do You Wish To Exit Windows"
>m$=3Dm$+" Windows"
>t$=3D"MENU SHELL"
>MESSAGE m$,t$,s%,r&
>//PRINT r&
>IF r&=3D6           //no=3D7
>  CLOSEW #1
>  f!=3DExitWindows(a%,w&)
>  'f!: if FALSE, one or more applications have not yet terminated.
>  'a%: must be 0.
>  'w&: return value for DOS
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List Member Thomas Gonschor <thomas.gonschor@vph-bensberg.de> wrote:
Hi David!

>Chalk one up for the Purcha$ed compiler.

It is the latest Version of the GFA16-Compiler.

>Not every program is going to run 100% as good
>as the interpreter.

Yes I know. But there must be a way to send a redraw after I have
build the dialog in the programm.

>You can use APPEND however which makes a single
>runtime with the interpreter's .EXE.

But if I do so the programm becomes very large.

Kind regards
Yours
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List Member "Bev Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
Thank you, kind sir!

                                   -->Bev<--

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> List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Ah !  An EZ one.  :)
> 
> Bev very simply check for a CLICK and not a
> HOLD.
> 
> You can do this via:
> 
> DO
>   >> Dabble
> UNTIL MOUSEK
> . ^ Which is A-OK, and then
> 
> WHILE MOUSEK=2
>   PEEKEVENT
> WEND
> . ^ Sit here till you let go of right button
> 
> Soo you gotta let go of that 2nd button to
> continue.
> 
> Maaaan I gotta show you guys everything !
> (Big Smile!)
> 
> Okay for those who read the comics !
> PEEKEVENT is not the 100% lifeline to the
> rest of window operations !  CORRECT placement
> of PEEKEVENT ensures an accurate program tho !
> For small delays it is perfectly OK to not use
> a PEEKEVENT in a loop which saves off all the
> messages you need.  Try not to use PEEKEVENT
> except once in your program like a master-input
> routine.  Your program will run VERY smoothly !
> 
> PEEKEVENT does release time to look at other
> window tasks but using PEEKEVENT multiple times
> WILL foul up the messages you get back !
> 
> Hope This Helps !
> 
> Sincerely,
> David W.
> 
> --- Bev Brown <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
> > List Member "Bev Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com>
> > wrote:
> > I've got problems with the following routine:
> > 
> > PROCEDURE any
> >   REPEAT
> >   UNTIL INKEY$ = ""
> >   temp$ = "Press LEFT button; RIGHT exits program!"
> >   RGBCOLOR red,ltgray
> >   DRAWTEXT 7,wh - 21,wb - 200,wh - 5,temp$,style7
> >   @bell
> >   REPEAT
> >     @draw_time
> >     PAUSE 1
> >   UNTIL MOUSEK
> >   @Create_Statusbar
> > RETURN
> > 
> > if I press the either mouse button the routine exits
> > ok but if the the right
> > button has been pressed, it also exits my program --
> > I use the right button
> > in my main routine as a quick exit. No matter what I
> > try, nothing seems to
> > stop the an quick exit to the program. Any ideas
> > would be appreciated!!!
> > 
> >                                    -->Bev<--
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List Member "Bev Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
Hey Dave:

It's ONLY 4.3M <g>!!!  Come on up to Canada; a 56K modem is only about
$60Cdn (that's only about $40US)...

                                   -->Bev<--

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> List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Greets Franz:
>
> Can ya get it down under a meg please ?
> That's like a 90 minute download for me
> at 7 megs !  (WHEW!)  What are you doing in
> there to take so much space ?  :)
>
> Sincerely,
> David W.
>
> --- "franz-xaver.schweiger@debitel.net"
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> > I relased a beta-version of my Tetris-clone
> > "GARLICS".
> > You can download it at:
> > http://www.untergrund-spiele.de/downloads_e.htm
> > I wrote it in GFA-Basic 16.
> > The systemrequirements: -a fast PCI-Graphicboard
> > (AGP-X2 recommandet for
> > the intro)
> >
> > Have some fun!
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List Member "Bev Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
I realize this but I have a bad habit of pressing the right button first for
some reason; if I do the damn thing remembers & when I press the left button
I get out of the routine & then out of the program. I tried Dave's method &
it works so long as I use MOUSEK & not MOUSEK=1.

                                   -->Bev<--

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> List Member Barlik@aol.com wrote:
> Bev,
>
> Use:
>  UNTIL MOUSEK=1
>
> The '1' is the left button
> 2= right button
> 3= left and right buttons (together)
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List Member Walmsley <k.walmsley@uclan.ac.uk> wrote:

David

Someone gave me this to play with but I never got around to it so 
dont know if it works.

Hope it may be of use to you.

Regards.

<k.walmsley@uclan.ac.uk> 

******************************************************************************
Sub vertical
  
  Local status = $03da
  Local syncvert| = $08
  Local a1|
  Local a2|
  Repeat
    a1| = a2|
    a2| = Inp( Port status) And syncvert|
  Until (a1| = $0) && (a2| = syncvert|)
  // Print Inp( Port status)
  //Print a2|, a1|
  
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Wellll there's only 1 (one) way to get 100%
refresh and that's with Russell's patent-pending
(deemed safe to all household cats) WindowLock !  :)

It's what I use every time to keep that darn
display persistent.

To keep tabs on memory, if you hit any errors in
your proggy, write a routine called ZZ or something
that fixes all memory real quick so when you hit
error tap [F4] zz [ENTER] and =THEN= deal with the
error with memory none the worse for wear.

Hope This Helps !

Sincerely,
David W.

--- Thomas Gonschor <thomas.gonschor@vph-bensberg.de>
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> List Member Thomas Gonschor
> <thomas.gonschor@vph-bensberg.de> wrote:
> Hi David!
> 
> >Chalk one up for the Purcha$ed compiler.
> 
> It is the latest Version of the GFA16-Compiler.
> 
> >Not every program is going to run 100% as good
> >as the interpreter.
> 
> Yes I know. But there must be a way to send a redraw
> after I have
> build the dialog in the programm.
> 
> >You can use APPEND however which makes a single
> >runtime with the interpreter's .EXE.
> 
> But if I do so the programm becomes very large.
> 
> Kind regards
> Yours
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Glad to help Bev !  :)

Sheesh you're letting an old codgy QBee
programmer showing you how to write GFA code
and I DESPISE using the mouse anyways !
(Grin!)

Sincerely,
David W.

- + -
How to do a somersault. (in 3 steps)

1. Pat feel make sure ground is forgiving.

2. Tuck in head.  Thrust body forward.
   Tumble over and go with flow.

3. Stay calm until help arrives.  :)
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--- Bev Brown <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
> List Member "Bev Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com>
> wrote:
> Thank you, kind sir!
> 
>                                    -->Bev<--
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "David Wicker" <dw817@yahoo.com>
> To: <gfabasic@gfa.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2000 10:37 AM
> Subject: re: [gfabasic] probs
> 
> 
> > List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Ah !  An EZ one.  :)
> > 
> > Bev very simply check for a CLICK and not a
> > HOLD.
> > 
> > You can do this via:
> > 
> > DO
> >   >> Dabble
> > UNTIL MOUSEK
> > . ^ Which is A-OK, and then
> > 
> > WHILE MOUSEK=2
> >   PEEKEVENT
> > WEND
> > . ^ Sit here till you let go of right button
> > 
> > Soo you gotta let go of that 2nd button to
> > continue.
> > 
> > Maaaan I gotta show you guys everything !
> > (Big Smile!)
> > 
> > Okay for those who read the comics !
> > PEEKEVENT is not the 100% lifeline to the
> > rest of window operations !  CORRECT placement
> > of PEEKEVENT ensures an accurate program tho !
> > For small delays it is perfectly OK to not use
> > a PEEKEVENT in a loop which saves off all the
> > messages you need.  Try not to use PEEKEVENT
> > except once in your program like a master-input
> > routine.  Your program will run VERY smoothly !
> > 
> > PEEKEVENT does release time to look at other
> > window tasks but using PEEKEVENT multiple times
> > WILL foul up the messages you get back !
> > 
> > Hope This Helps !
> > 
> > Sincerely,
> > David W.
> > 
> > --- Bev Brown <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
> > > List Member "Bev Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > I've got problems with the following routine:
> > > 
> > > PROCEDURE any
> > >   REPEAT
> > >   UNTIL INKEY$ = ""
> > >   temp$ = "Press LEFT button; RIGHT exits
> program!"
> > >   RGBCOLOR red,ltgray
> > >   DRAWTEXT 7,wh - 21,wb - 200,wh -
> 5,temp$,style7
> > >   @bell
> > >   REPEAT
> > >     @draw_time
> > >     PAUSE 1
> > >   UNTIL MOUSEK
> > >   @Create_Statusbar
> > > RETURN
> > > 
> > > if I press the either mouse button the routine
> exits
> > > ok but if the the right
> > > button has been pressed, it also exits my
> program --
> > > I use the right button
> > > in my main routine as a quick exit. No matter
> what I
> > > try, nothing seems to
> > > stop the an quick exit to the program. Any ideas
> > > would be appreciated!!!
> > > 
> > >                                    -->Bev<--
> > > 
> > > 
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
--- Bev Brown <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
> List Member "Bev Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com>
> wrote:
> Hey Dave:
> 
> It's ONLY 4.3M <g>!!!  Come on up to Canada; a 56K
> modem is only about
> $60Cdn (that's only about $40US)...

4.3m ?  Ohh..  That's my free internet server
making those old computations.  Yah it pops an ad in
every 30 sec so it'd take as long as 7megs to get it.

Huum..  Tom, I'm using a 56k already !
Download RPG2000 from ASCII which was 5 megs took
several hours !

Seriously Franz, you got some super good looking
Anime movies with girrrrls in there or something
for that size ??  :)

Sincerely,
David W.

> 
>                                    -->Bev<--
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Wicker" <dw817@yahoo.com>
> To: <gfabasic@gfa.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2000 6:50 PM
> Subject: Re: [gfabasic] Videogame Garlics
> 
> 
> > List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Greets Franz:
> >
> > Can ya get it down under a meg please ?
> > That's like a 90 minute download for me
> > at 7 megs !  (WHEW!)  What are you doing in
> > there to take so much space ?  :)
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > David W.
> >
> > --- "franz-xaver.schweiger@debitel.net"
> > <franz-xaver.schweiger@debitel.net> wrote:
> > > List Member "franz-xaver.schweiger@debitel.net"
> > > <franz-xaver.schweiger@debitel.net> wrote:
> > > I relased a beta-version of my Tetris-clone
> > > "GARLICS".
> > > You can download it at:
> > > http://www.untergrund-spiele.de/downloads_e.htm
> > > I wrote it in GFA-Basic 16.
> > > The systemrequirements: -a fast PCI-Graphicboard
> > > (AGP-X2 recommandet for
> > > the intro)
> > >
> > > Have some fun!
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Greets Bev:

You might wanna make a quick program to check
both buttons sometime as a .EXE you can run if you
getting all screwy results from your mouse.

Sometimes GFA will lock them in backwards if you do
a lotta clicking.

Reads back MOUSEK=0 if left, 1 if right, 2 if none.
It happens with me could be my mouse I mean trackball
cause I don't like mice but I suspect it happening
with others maybe too.

Sincerely,
David W.


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> I realize this but I have a bad habit of pressing
> the right button first for
> some reason; if I do the damn thing remembers & when
> I press the left button
> I get out of the routine & then out of the program.
> I tried Dave's method &
> it works so long as I use MOUSEK & not MOUSEK=1.
> 
>                                    -->Bev<--
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> ----- Original Message -----
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> > List Member Barlik@aol.com wrote:
> > Bev,
> >
> > Use:
> >  UNTIL MOUSEK=1
> >
> > The '1' is the left button
> > 2= right button
> > 3= left and right buttons (together)
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Greets Walmsley:

Thanks !  I'm not in a good position to check it
(yah I'm restructuring my universe again!) :/
but should be able to check it 2 days from now !

If it does work I would like the author's if nothing
else first name please so I can chalk them in the
credits if I use it.

Looks good !  What language what it written for ?
That's neither QBee code nor GFA ?

Sincerely,
David W.

--- Walmsley <k.walmsley@uclan.ac.uk> wrote:
> List Member Walmsley <k.walmsley@uclan.ac.uk> wrote:
> 
> David
> 
> Someone gave me this to play with but I never got
> around to it so 
> dont know if it works.
> 
> Hope it may be of use to you.
> 
> Regards.
> 
> <k.walmsley@uclan.ac.uk> 



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List Member "Bev Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
Hey Dave:

I'm only getting 28.8K on one modem & 26.4K on the other (I'm right at the
end of the phone line -- ie: the lakes on the other side) & I can downloaded
between 6 & 7M an hour.. Me thinks ya got probs ...

                                   -->Bev<--

----- Original Message -----
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> List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> --- Bev Brown <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
> > List Member "Bev Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com>
> > wrote:
> > Hey Dave:
> >
> > It's ONLY 4.3M <g>!!!  Come on up to Canada; a 56K
> > modem is only about
> > $60Cdn (that's only about $40US)...
>
> 4.3m ?  Ohh..  That's my free internet server
> making those old computations.  Yah it pops an ad in
> every 30 sec so it'd take as long as 7megs to get it.
>
> Huum..  Tom, I'm using a 56k already !
> Download RPG2000 from ASCII which was 5 megs took
> several hours !
>
> Seriously Franz, you got some super good looking
> Anime movies with girrrrls in there or something
> for that size ??  :)
>
> Sincerely,
> David W.
>
> >
> >                                    -->Bev<--
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "David Wicker" <dw817@yahoo.com>
> > To: <gfabasic@gfa.net>
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2000 6:50 PM
> > Subject: Re: [gfabasic] Videogame Garlics
> >
> >
> > > List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > Greets Franz:
> > >
> > > Can ya get it down under a meg please ?
> > > That's like a 90 minute download for me
> > > at 7 megs !  (WHEW!)  What are you doing in
> > > there to take so much space ?  :)
> > >
> > > Sincerely,
> > > David W.
> > >
> > > --- "franz-xaver.schweiger@debitel.net"
> > > <franz-xaver.schweiger@debitel.net> wrote:
> > > > List Member "franz-xaver.schweiger@debitel.net"
> > > > <franz-xaver.schweiger@debitel.net> wrote:
> > > > I relased a beta-version of my Tetris-clone
> > > > "GARLICS".
> > > > You can download it at:
> > > > http://www.untergrund-spiele.de/downloads_e.htm
> > > > I wrote it in GFA-Basic 16.
> > > > The systemrequirements: -a fast PCI-Graphicboard
> > > > (AGP-X2 recommandet for
> > > > the intro)
> > > >
> > > > Have some fun!
> > > >
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Subject: Re: [gfabasic] GFA16: ExitWindows
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Maybe this will give you and idea.

'In general section
Const EWX_LOGOFF = 0
Const EWX_SHUTDOWN = 1
Const EWX_REBOOT = 2
Const EWX_FORCE = 4
Private Declare Function ExitWindowsEx Lib "user32" (ByVal uFlags As Long,
ByVal dwReserved As Long) As Long
Private Sub Form_Load()
msg = MsgBox("This program is going to reboot your computer. Press OK to
continue or Cancel to stop.", vbCritical + vbOKCancel + 256, App.Title)
    If msg = vbCancel Then End
    'reboot the computer
    ret& = ExitWindowsEx(EWX_FORCE Or EWX_REBOOT, 0)
End Sub


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List Member Thomas Gonschor <thomas.gonschor@vph-bensberg.de> wrote:
Hi Dale!

Many thanks for your listing.

I look for the parameters which can be set instead of 0 because there
are a few posibillities in shutting down windows, e. g. RESET or
REBOOT. The NULL let Windows shut down a once ...

Do you have got an idea?

Kind regards
Yours

Thomas

--------------------------------------------------------

>//ExitWindows()  :PRIMARY
>OPENW #1
>s%=MB_ICONQUESTION|MB_YESNO
>m$="Do You Wish To Exit Windows"
>m$=m$+" Windows"
>t$="MENU SHELL"
>MESSAGE m$,t$,s%,r&
>//PRINT r&
>IF r&=6           //no=7
>  CLOSEW #1
>  f!=ExitWindows(a%,w&)
>  'f!: if FALSE, one or more applications have not yet terminated.
>  'a%: must be 0.
>  'w&: return value for DOS
>ENDIF
>CLOSEW #1
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Well..  It could be..
Remember tho, I've gotta free provider.
(Yah too cheap to buy my own)
Better then 50% or more of that is being used
for their nasty little ads.

Actually, they keeping tabs on what I like.
Notice a lot of Sailor Moon and Pokemon merchandise
in them mostly now.  :)

Got pix turned off for most part, still pretty
slow.

Buuut (back to original question) what all is your
program doing for that size file ?

With some encode I realized I can store 75
32x32 16 image sprites, that's 16 images per 32x32
64 million color sprite total a bit over 3megs of
graphics, I can pack that down to a bit under 150k
because a lot of it is computed from exists
image if I do the calculations manually 1 (one) time
installing and having it in PKZIP format originally.

Don't mind me, I'm just all persnickety on byte
savings.  :)

Unzip.DLL will play a very heavy part in Scenario
(which =FINALLY= I'm crystallizing in my head on how
 to do it in GFABasic).

The system must be smart and recognizing MODULES that
can be added, remove, and exchanging it from like lego
blocks.  These templates can be saved all as one or
just vital components makes use of default scenario
graphics, audio, and pre-defined item definitions.

(WHEW!)

It's getting there.
On a positive note, I see the "comfortable" -ness
of allowing others to create background image
templates
for use in either playing their creations or using
the interpreter and/or compiler as well as background
music to assist in the development of tedious worlds.

To all, the system will allow FULL screen graphics
that is no part of windows will be seen if you desire
and the image spans top left to bottom right all the
way, you also have the option of playing small
window.

Let me put together Parallax2 to show later.
Huuum !!  :)

Sincerely,
David W.

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> Hey Dave:
> 
> I'm only getting 28.8K on one modem & 26.4K on the
> other (I'm right at the
> end of the phone line -- ie: the lakes on the other
> side) & I can downloaded
> between 6 & 7M an hour.. Me thinks ya got probs ...
> 
>                                    -->Bev<--
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Wicker" <dw817@yahoo.com>
> To: <gfabasic@gfa.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2000 10:00 AM
> Subject: Re: [gfabasic] Videogame Garlics
> 
> 
> > List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > --- Bev Brown <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
> > > List Member "Bev Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > Hey Dave:
> > >
> > > It's ONLY 4.3M <g>!!!  Come on up to Canada; a
> 56K
> > > modem is only about
> > > $60Cdn (that's only about $40US)...
> >
> > 4.3m ?  Ohh..  That's my free internet server
> > making those old computations.  Yah it pops an ad
> in
> > every 30 sec so it'd take as long as 7megs to get
> it.
> >
> > Huum..  Tom, I'm using a 56k already !
> > Download RPG2000 from ASCII which was 5 megs took
> > several hours !
> >
> > Seriously Franz, you got some super good looking
> > Anime movies with girrrrls in there or something
> > for that size ??  :)
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > David W.
> >
> > >
> > >                                    -->Bev<--
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "David Wicker" <dw817@yahoo.com>
> > > To: <gfabasic@gfa.net>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2000 6:50 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [gfabasic] Videogame Garlics
> > >
> > >
> > > > List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> > > > Greets Franz:
> > > >
> > > > Can ya get it down under a meg please ?
> > > > That's like a 90 minute download for me
> > > > at 7 megs !  (WHEW!)  What are you doing in
> > > > there to take so much space ?  :)
> > > >
> > > > Sincerely,
> > > > David W.
> > > >
> > > > --- "franz-xaver.schweiger@debitel.net"
> > > > <franz-xaver.schweiger@debitel.net> wrote:
> > > > > List Member
> "franz-xaver.schweiger@debitel.net"
> > > > > <franz-xaver.schweiger@debitel.net> wrote:
> > > > > I relased a beta-version of my Tetris-clone
> > > > > "GARLICS".
> > > > > You can download it at:
> > > > >
> http://www.untergrund-spiele.de/downloads_e.htm
> > > > > I wrote it in GFA-Basic 16.
> > > > > The systemrequirements: -a fast
> PCI-Graphicboard
> > > > > (AGP-X2 recommandet for
> > > > > the intro)
> > > > >
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List Member Engelbert van Loock <Engelbert.v@n.loock.com> wrote:

Try this:

	EW_REBOOTSYSTEM = &43          // Cold Reset
	EW_RESTARTWINDOWS = &42        // Warm Reset
	dwReturnCode = EW_REBOOTSYSTEM
	~ExitWindows(dwReturnCode,0)

The cold reset also restarts DOS, the warm one only restarts Windows.
All other values are leading to DOS or - if the hardware is supporting
it - to the power off state.

If you want to terminate Windows, execute a DOS program and then restart
Windows again, use this:

	DLL #1,"USER"
	  DECL WORD ExitWindowsExec(l,l)
	ENDDLL
	p$ = "C:\windows\command\edit.com" + CHR$(0)
	c$ = "c:\autoexec.bat" + CHR$(0)
	~^ExitWindowsExec(V:p$,V:c$)


Maybe I could tell someone some new

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List Member "Russell Hayward" <russ@softhome.net> wrote:
Hi Thomas,

>>>>>>
I look for the parameters which can be set instead of 0 because there
are a few posibillities in shutting down windows, e. g. RESET or
REBOOT. The NULL let Windows shut down a once ...
<<<<<<

It seems that ExitWindows may not be as versitile as you need, Dale has sent
a message about ExitWindowsEx which you could use thunking to call. It's
possible that ExitWindows can do enough, here's what it says in the Win3.1
SDK:

BOOL ExitWindows(dwReturnCode, reserved)

DWORD dwReturnCode; /* return or restart code */
UINT reserved; /* reserved; must be zero */

The ExitWindows function can restart Windows, terminate Windows and return
control to MS-DOS, or terminate Windows and restart the system. Windows
sends the WM_QUERYENDSESSION message to notify all applications that a
request has been made to restart or terminate Windows. If all applications
"agree" to terminate, Windows sends the WM_ENDSESSION message to all
applications before terminating.

Parameter Description

dwReturnCode Specifies whether Windows should restart, terminate and return
control to MS-DOS, or terminate and restart the system. The high-order word
of this parameter should be zero. The low-order word specifies the return
value to be passed to MS-DOS when Windows terminates. The low-order word can
be one of the following values:

Value Meaning

EW_REBOOTSYSTEM (=$43) Causes Windows to terminate and the system to
restart.
EW_RESTARTWINDOWS (=$42) Causes Windows to restart.

reserved Reserved; must be zero.

Returns

The return value is zero if one or more applications refuse to terminate.
The function does not return a value if all applications agree to be
terminated.


If that isn't enough flexibility then ExitWindowsEx is the answer, if you
haven't done thunking before there is an explanation of it on my website:

http://www.baphead.freeserve.co.uk/expert.html

HTH,
Russell Hayward
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
As Bev knows, I went thru hell getting above 14.4.  The best I can do on a
56K line
in Tulsa is 28.8k.  My max download rate went from 1.2K/sec to 1.8K/s.  Rather
disappointing after all the work it took!  That's at 1:00 to 3:00 A.M.!  In
daylight,
it drops to as low as 100B/sec!
TomR.


At 10:35 AM 21/06/00 -0400, you wrote:
>List Member "Bev Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
>Hey Dave:
>
>I'm only getting 28.8K on one modem & 26.4K on the other (I'm right at the
>end of the phone line -- ie: the lakes on the other side) & I can downloaded
>between 6 & 7M an hour.. Me thinks ya got probs ...
>
>                                   -->Bev<--
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "David Wicker" <dw817@yahoo.com>
>To: <gfabasic@gfa.net>
>Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2000 10:00 AM
>Subject: Re: [gfabasic] Videogame Garlics
>
>
>> List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> --- Bev Brown <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
>> > List Member "Bev Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com>
>> > wrote:
>> > Hey Dave:
>> >
>> > It's ONLY 4.3M <g>!!!  Come on up to Canada; a 56K
>> > modem is only about
>> > $60Cdn (that's only about $40US)...
>>
>> 4.3m ?  Ohh..  That's my free internet server
>> making those old computations.  Yah it pops an ad in
>> every 30 sec so it'd take as long as 7megs to get it.
>>
>> Huum..  Tom, I'm using a 56k already !
>> Download RPG2000 from ASCII which was 5 megs took
>> several hours !
>>
>> Seriously Franz, you got some super good looking
>> Anime movies with girrrrls in there or something
>> for that size ??  :)
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> David W.
>>
>> >
>> >                                    -->Bev<--
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "David Wicker" <dw817@yahoo.com>
>> > To: <gfabasic@gfa.net>
>> > Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2000 6:50 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [gfabasic] Videogame Garlics
>> >
>> >
>> > > List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> > > Greets Franz:
>> > >
>> > > Can ya get it down under a meg please ?
>> > > That's like a 90 minute download for me
>> > > at 7 megs !  (WHEW!)  What are you doing in
>> > > there to take so much space ?  :)
>> > >
>> > > Sincerely,
>> > > David W.
>> > >
>> > > --- "franz-xaver.schweiger@debitel.net"
>> > > <franz-xaver.schweiger@debitel.net> wrote:
>> > > > List Member "franz-xaver.schweiger@debitel.net"
>> > > > <franz-xaver.schweiger@debitel.net> wrote:
>> > > > I relased a beta-version of my Tetris-clone
>> > > > "GARLICS".
>> > > > You can download it at:
>> > > > http://www.untergrund-spiele.de/downloads_e.htm
>> > > > I wrote it in GFA-Basic 16.
>> > > > The systemrequirements: -a fast PCI-Graphicboard
>> > > > (AGP-X2 recommandet for
>> > > > the intro)
>> > > >
>> > > > Have some fun!
>> > > >
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Yah I've gotten that 100bytes per second Tom !
:)  It's no fun !

Mostly from those really far afar-and-away places
that got the best files for download.  Huumm !!

Well, I'm thinking maybe that I want to go ahead
and allow for language patches in the system I'm
working on but to do this will be quite a-bit of
work !  I don't know much about the Japanese but I'd
like for them to enjoy this system as much as the
US and of course Germany.  :)  But to do this,
I may need to make "images" of commands in the system
like 64x32 pixels for a 4-letter abbrev. which can
be changed to Katakana lettering later.

This is how most of the import games make it in
to the US except we reverse it.  Ever wonder why
you only got 4 letters to put in your name specially
if you name happen to be Mr. Frediricherson
yah better just call yourself Fred.  :)

Sincerely,
David W.

It's possible.  :)

Sincerely,
David W.


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> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> As Bev knows, I went thru hell getting above 14.4. 
> The best I can do on a
> 56K line
> in Tulsa is 28.8k.  My max download rate went from
> 1.2K/sec to 1.8K/s.  Rather
> disappointing after all the work it took!  That's at
> 1:00 to 3:00 A.M.!  In
> daylight,
> it drops to as low as 100B/sec!
> TomR.
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Ok..  This may be common knowledge to most of you
but to me its an exciting and very useful finding
for me.

I didn't know GFA could do this..
QBasic cannot and never has done this..

GFABasic remembers =*ALL*= your variables long after
you have ended the last run and added several hundred
lines of code.  I'm using ID# which is a floating
point # 16 places long as well as several dozen arrays
and matrixes.

It remembers every one of them.
Every one.
Every single one.

I can't think of another language that allows you
to add coding for perhaps hours and then you go to
immediate mode to view variables that were set prior
to your last run.

It recalls them all:
+ Even if you save your file in .GFW format
+ Even if you save in ASCII format
+ Even if you ASCII merge further code from
  somewhere else

NO variables pointers, references, arrays, nothing
is forgotten.

There are a few exceptions:
+ If you call CLEAR
+ If you load a separate program or reload the
  same program over again.
+ You select NEW to start a new program

Immediate mode also allows you to use DIM to create
new arrays on the fly as well.

For those of you who didn't know this, Yah it's a
good find !!

Sincerely,
David W.


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> List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Yah I've gotten that 100bytes per second Tom !
> :)  It's no fun !
> 
> Mostly from those really far afar-and-away places
> that got the best files for download.  Huumm !!
> 
> Well, I'm thinking maybe that I want to go ahead
> and allow for language patches in the system I'm
> working on but to do this will be quite a-bit of
> work !  I don't know much about the Japanese but I'd
> like for them to enjoy this system as much as the
> US and of course Germany.  :)  But to do this,
> I may need to make "images" of commands in the
> system
> like 64x32 pixels for a 4-letter abbrev. which can
> be changed to Katakana lettering later.
> 
> This is how most of the import games make it in
> to the US except we reverse it.  Ever wonder why
> you only got 4 letters to put in your name specially
> if you name happen to be Mr. Frediricherson
> yah better just call yourself Fred.  :)
> 
> Sincerely,
> David W.
> 
> It's possible.  :)
> 
> Sincerely,
> David W.
> 
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> 
> > The best I can do on a
> > 56K line
> > in Tulsa is 28.8k.  My max download rate went from
> > 1.2K/sec to 1.8K/s.  Rather
> > disappointing after all the work it took!  That's
> at
> > 1:00 to 3:00 A.M.!  In
> > daylight,
> > it drops to as low as 100B/sec!
> > TomR.
> > 
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David Wicker schrieb:

> Buuut (back to original question) what all is your
> program doing for that size file ?

This game uses hires graphics (Tile size in the game is variable between
10X10 to 128X128. The graphicfiles are stored in the  format 128X128).
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Hi to All

I found new function msctls_hotkey and msctls_hotkey32. Application give =
name of pressed key   (I don't know why Enter and some another keys =
doesn't work)



Here is example:

DLG 3D ON
DLGBASE UNIT
DIALOG #1, 50,50,150,70,"msctls_hotkey or msctls_hotkey32",DS_MODALFRAME =
| WS_POPUP | WS_CAPTION | WS_SYSMENU
  CONTROL "", 100, "msctls_hotkey",TBS_AUTOTICKS% | TBS_HORZ% | =
TBS_BOTTOM% | WS_CHILD | WS_VISIBLE,10,10,145,24
  ' CONTROL "", 100, "msctls_hotkey32",TBS_AUTOTICKS% | TBS_HORZ% | =
TBS_BOTTOM% | WS_CHILD | WS_VISIBLE,10,10,145,24
  CONTROL "Close", 201, "button", WS_CHILD | WS_VISIBLE, 47, 40, 70, 12
ENDDIALOG
DLG FILL 1, RGB(192,192,192)
'
SHOWDIALOG #1
DO
  GETEVENT
  IF MENU(11)=3DWM_COMMAND
    SELECT MENU(12)
    CASE 201
      GOTO end
    ENDSELECT
  ENDIF
UNTIL MENU(1)=3D4
end:
CLOSEDIALOG #1
DLG 3D OFF
END

Best Regards
Peter


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50,50,150,70,"msctls_hotkey or msctls_hotkey32",DS_MODALFRAME | WS_POPUP =
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WS_VISIBLE,10,10,145,24<BR>&nbsp; CONTROL "Close", 201, "button", =
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WS_VISIBLE, 47, 40, 70, 12<BR>ENDDIALOG<BR>DLG FILL 1,=20
RGB(192,192,192)<BR>'<BR>SHOWDIALOG #1<BR>DO<BR>&nbsp; =
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CASE 201<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; GOTO =
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ENDSELECT<BR>&nbsp; ENDIF<BR>UNTIL MENU(1)=3D4<BR>end:<BR>CLOSEDIALOG =
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Does anyone know where in the net I could find description to 16 and =
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> Does anyone know where in the net I could find description to 16 and
> 32-bit libraries?

http://www.wotsit.org/

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
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<franz-xaver.schweiger@debitel.net> wrote:
> List Member "franz-xaver.schweiger@debitel.net"
> <franz-xaver.schweiger@debitel.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> David Wicker schrieb:
> 
> > Buuut (back to original question) what all is your
> > program doing for that size file ?
> 
> This game uses hires graphics (Tile size in the game
> is variable between
> 10X10 to 128X128. The graphicfiles are stored in the
>  format 128X128).
> If you have a fast graphicboard like a Geforce
> (testet) you can play this
> game
> in a resolution of 1600X1200 with 16Bit colors or
> 1280X1024 with 32Bit
> colors very smooth (I have only a medium speed
> graphicboard (ATI Rage
> Fury),
> I can play my game in a resolution of 1024X768 with
> 16Bit colors smooth.)

Ouch !  I know I've told some other programmers
this.  Not every-one has that kinna resolution !
Some monitors can actually get damaged switching to
that resolution, especially if your program does it
internally.  Safest resolution is 640x480 or default
whatever window color set-up they have.
> 
> I can make a version with lower-res graphics (Tile
> size 32X32) => the
> file size
> shriks to a size of 1/16 of the original.

Please do !  I'd like to see your game for 640x480 !
I will definitely download it then, especially at
1/16 of size.

(You know my eyes become beady little dots when I'm
trying to see something in a resolution of
1024x768!)  :)

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Thanks Doyle, but I want to find page with description not data file but
dlls like: MP3.DLL, MPEGDLL.DLL, NPMOD32.DLL, XAUDIO.DLL.....
I don't know how I can use it (how many params is in every function).

Best Regards
Peter

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> List Member Doyle Whisenant <mechanic@sonet.net> wrote:
> > Micha=B3 Sejfried wrote:
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> > Hi.
> >
> > Does anyone know where in the net I could find description to 16 and
> > 32-bit libraries?
>
> http://www.wotsit.org/
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Peter
Such a page does NOT exist.  If a *.dll is free, the place it is obtaind=
 from
also supplies the calls to it in either "C" or VB.

If a *.dll is for sale, at least *some* of the calls are outlined as above.
After paying for it, you would normally expect to receive ALL calls to it.

It's quite possible I can show you how to uncover the calls, or... at least
the functions they call.  This will NOT tell you how to declare them, tho.

Unless you can look at a binary or hex display of one, then *read* the push,
pop, whatever of it's action, there is no way to find the declares from it.

Only a VERY good hacker would be able to get you the DECL statements fron=
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*.dll, itself.

TomR.


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>Thanks Doyle, but I want to find page with description not data file but
>dlls like: MP3.DLL, MPEGDLL.DLL, NPMOD32.DLL, XAUDIO.DLL.....
>I don't know how I can use it (how many params is in every function).
>
>Best Regards
>Peter
>
>42810730@pro.onet.pl
>
>
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>> > Hi.
>> >
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>>
>> http://www.wotsit.org/
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Ich bin immer suchen Information Gfa Programmschreiber zu beilegen zu der
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Ich suche stndig nach Informationen zu Gfa-Programmieren, um sie im
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Name
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senden an: adbryant@gfa.net

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
I see we're getting into rebooting from our programs... does anybody know how to
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Hi Tom,

> I see we're getting into rebooting from our programs... does anybody know
how to
> reboot to DOS thie way?

This seems to work the same way as clicking restart in MS-DOS mode on the
shutdown menu:

DLL #1,"user"
  DECL LONG ExitWindowsExec(L,L)
ENDDLL

~^ExitWindowsExec("C:\COMMAND.COM",NULL)

FREEDLL 1

The FREEDLL never seems to get run, but it's a good habit to get in.

HTH,
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Russ
Works like a champ!  Thanks!  Eases a problem I've been having.
'puter had only one complaint... "MSCDEX already started"... didn't
bother me at all <G>.
<G>
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List Member Pat Bullman <pbullman@norex.com.au> wrote:
I'm looking for a working example of the wvsPrintf() API.  Can anyone
please help?


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List Member "Eberhard Funck" <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de> wrote:
Hallo Pat,


|List Member Pat Bullman <pbullman@norex.com.au> wrote:
|I'm looking for a working example of the wvsPrintf() API.  Can anyone
|please help?


One example:

'
OPENW #1
m$ = "This is %s example of more than %s things, you can do with wvsprintf."
+ CHR$(0)
DIM a%(2)
puffer$ = SPACE$(128)
a$ = "1" + CHR$(0)
a%(0) = V:a$
b$ = "100" + CHR$(0)
a%(1) = V:b$
'
~wvsprintf(V:puffer$,V:m$,V:a%(0))
PRINT ZTRIM$(puffer$)
'
DO
  GETEVENT
UNTIL MENU(1) = 4
'
CLOSEW #1
END

Greetings

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Does anybody know where to find a copy of griddy.dll?  It is called in an
example I
downloaded very long ago - *possibly* from a website no longer available.

Would appreciate receiving it of anybody has it.
Thanks
<G>
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Have finally seen printf() in use:
=A4printf("\nProcessing Complete\n");

Prints results in a DOS box after a DOS *.exe has done it's thing.  Is=
 something
like DIALOG... gives user some info, maybe asks confirmation, etc.

<G>
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hey Bev !

What are you all down about ?
Captain Dale on here says you're having it rough
right now ?

Sincerely,
David W.
(First shipmate)  :)


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> differences between "spam" & "SPAM"
> just to irritate'im.  How you this mornin?  I slept
> 7 to 11:30 this mornin.
> 
> Bev's havin it rough right now, so how about
> everybody sending him a cheery
> note?
> <G>
> TomR.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> At 07:42 AM 24/06/00 -0700, you wrote:
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> >What gets me going is when they call it spam. Like
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> >dale
> >
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com>
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> HI,
> I sent Bev a note yesterday. Chronic diarrhea is
> really rough. I know, I had
> it once. Buttermilk cleared it up for me.
> dale
> 

Owww.  You get that from cheapo Mexican Food right ?
Better skip that Tamale fellow next time he rolls his
little red wagon around your block and hold out for
the fortune cookies !  :)

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:

--- Russell Hayward <russ@softhome.net> wrote:
> 
> This seems to work the same way as clicking restart
> in MS-DOS mode on the
> shutdown menu:
> 
> DLL #1,"user"
>   DECL LONG ExitWindowsExec(L,L)
> ENDDLL
> 
> ~^ExitWindowsExec("C:\COMMAND.COM",NULL)
> 
> FREEDLL 1
> 
> The FREEDLL never seems to get run, but it's a good
> habit to get in.
> 
> HTH,
> Russell Hayward

Greeets Russell !

Well after a lotta very HARD work I finished up
Parallax Stage 2.  Custom pull-down menus with
cameras attached to anything that moves so everything
can slide out of the way when not in use.

You wouldn't believe how much work this was !
(WHEW!)  Shift key arrows to run, [ALT] and arrows
or letters to select entirely thru keyboard, all
internalized and encrypted data files and functions
now !  (I'm ready to take my break now!)
But it all runs in procedures and functions so
very easy engine to use in all new products,
and all is virtual so no damage or redraw is ever
required on any screen.

http://www.geocities.com/dw817/product/paralax2.zip

If you make a neat SLEEVE for it (center is 320x240)
feel free to send it !  I'm hoping you guys maybe
make or doodle some sleeves for some of the RPGs and
generator systems/games to follow in this environ.

Will send you your Fun Bundle Monday
(that's TODAY but I need to sleep too so gimme about
9 hours or so) :)

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Huum..  It's a batch file printer right ?
But why not use:

DEFINT "A-Z"
A$ = "* tarts and * hearts all on a summer's day!"
B$ = "Cherry,Berry"
PRINT @Merge$(A$,B$)
KEYGET Z
CLOSEW #1

FUNCTION Merge$(A$,B$)
  LOCAL A,B
  B$ = B$ + ","
  DO
    A = INSTR(A$,"*"),B = INSTR(B$,",")
    IF A * B THEN A$ = LEFT$(A$,A - 1) + LEFT$(B$,B -
1) + MID$(A$,A + 1),B$ = MID$(B$,B + 1)
  UNTIL A * B = 0
  RETURN A$
ENDFUNC

That's how I'd write it.  :)

Sincerely,
David W.

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> Hallo Pat,
> 
> 
> |List Member Pat Bullman <pbullman@norex.com.au>
> wrote:
> |I'm looking for a working example of the
> wvsPrintf() API.  Can anyone
> |please help?
> 
> 
> One example:
> 
> '
> OPENW #1
> m$ = "This is %s example of more than %s things, you
> can do with wvsprintf."
> + CHR$(0)
> DIM a%(2)
> puffer$ = SPACE$(128)
> a$ = "1" + CHR$(0)
> a%(0) = V:a$
> b$ = "100" + CHR$(0)
> a%(1) = V:b$
> '
> ~wvsprintf(V:puffer$,V:m$,V:a%(0))
> PRINT ZTRIM$(puffer$)
> '
> DO
>   GETEVENT
> UNTIL MENU(1) = 4
> '
> CLOSEW #1
> END
> 
> Greetings
> 
> Eberhard
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List Member support@mountain-software.com wrote:
Does anyone have an example of how to create a desktop icon from GFA BASIC?

Thanks,

Anthony
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List Member support@mountain-software.com wrote:
Thomas,

TG> One very stupid question - What stand the '$' in front of '43' for?

That indicates the 43 is a Hexidecimal number. The same number can be 
represented as 67 in decimal form or 01000011 in binary.

Said another way, these are all the same:

  a=$43
  a=67
  a=%01000011

Hope this helps.

Anthony Watson
Mountain Software
support@mountain-software.com
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List Member Thomas Gonschor <thomas.gonschor@vph-bensberg.de> wrote:
Hi Engelbert!

>Maybe I could tell someone some new

Yes, it was very helpful, many thanks to you!!!

Kind regards
Yours

Thomas

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List Member Thomas Gonschor <thomas.gonschor@vph-bensberg.de> wrote:
Hi Russell!

>EW_REBOOTSYSTEM (=3D$43) Causes Windows to terminate and the system to
>restart.
>EW_RESTARTWINDOWS (=3D$42) Causes Windows to restart.

One very stupid question - What stand the '$' in front of '43' for?
Engelbert uses a '&' instead!?

Kind regards
Yours

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Keith Walmsley & Thomas Goncher responded to my plea.

Thanks very much to both of you!

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List Member Pat Bullman <pbullman@norex.com.au> wrote:
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Tom,

Griddy.dll comes from a GFA sample program.  The source code is attached.

Also I modified this to become GridLine.lst which is available in Dale
download area.


Pat

At 04:12 26/06/00 +0000, you wrote:
>List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>Does anybody know where to find a copy of griddy.dll?  It is called in an
>example I
>downloaded very long ago - *possibly* from a website no longer available.
>
>Would appreciate receiving it of anybody has it.
>Thanks
><G>
>TomR.

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$LIBRARY GRIDDY
$LNK EXE C:\GfaWin\Griddy\Griddy.dll
$LNK MAP Griddy.map

// This Dll creates some Controls for use by
// GFA-BASIC (or other Programs).

// Two big String arrays (possible Grid size may be more than 16383 - as=
 100x200)
// Zwei gro=DFe String-Felder (Grid Gr=F6=DFe kann =FCber 16383 sein - wie=
 100x200)
$ABIG Grid$(),Grid1$()
PROCEDURE MkCurs()
  //Create two Cursors, used when sizing columns or rows
  //Erzeuge zwei Cursor, benutzt bei Gr=F6=DFen=E4nderung von Spalten oder=
 Zeilen
  //Doesn't use READ/DATA, because this would force use of Floating Point
  //Benutzt nicht READ/DATA, wegen Flie=DFkommaarithmetik
  a$ =3D     =
 MKL$($ffffffff,$ffffffff,$ffffffff,$ffffffff,$ffffffff,$ffffffff,$ffffffff,=
$ffffffff)
  a$ =3D a$ +=
 MKL$($ff7ffcff,$ff3ff8ff,$ff1ff0ff,$ff0fe0ff,$ff0fe0ff,$ff0fe0ff,$ff3ff8ff,=
$7f0000fc)
  a$ =3D a$ +=
 MKL$($7f0000fc,$7f0000fc,$ff3ff8ff,$ff0fe0ff,$ff0fe0ff,$ff0fe0ff,$ff1ff0ff,=
$ff3ff8ff)
  a$ =3D a$ +=
 MKL$($ff7ffcff,$ffffffff,$ffffffff,$ffffffff,$ffffffff,$ffffffff,$ffffffff,=
$ffffffff)

  a$ =3D a$ +=
 MKL$($00000000,$00000000,$00000000,$00000000,$00000000,$00000000,$00000000,=
$00000000)
  a$ =3D a$ +=
 MKL$($00800300,$00c00600,$00600c00,$00301800,$00101000,$00701c00,$00400400,=
$807ffc03)
  a$ =3D a$ +=
 MKL$($80000002,$807ffc03,$00400400,$00701c00,$00101000,$00301800,$00600c00,=
$00c00600)
  a$ =3D a$ +=
 MKL$($00800300,$00000000,$00000000,$00000000,$00000000,$00000000,$00000000,=
$00000000)

  a$ =3D a$ +=
 MKL$($ffffffff,$ffffffff,$ffffffff,$ffffffff,$ffffffff,$ffffffff,$ffffffff,=
$ff7ffcff)
  a$ =3D a$ +=
 MKL$($ff7ffcff,$ff7ffcff,$ff7ffcff,$ff7ffcff,$ff47c4ff,$ff4384ff,$ff0100ff,=
$ff0000fe)
  a$ =3D a$ +=
 MKL$($ff0000fe,$ff0000fe,$ff0100ff,$ff4384ff,$ff47c4ff,$ff7ffcff,$ff7ffcff,=
$ff7ffcff)
  a$ =3D a$ +=
 MKL$($ff7ffcff,$ff7ffcff,$ffffffff,$ffffffff,$ffffffff,$ffffffff,$ffffffff,=
$ffffffff)

  a$ =3D a$ +=
 MKL$($00000000,$00000000,$00000000,$00000000,$00000000,$00000000,$00000000,=
$00800300)
  a$ =3D a$ +=
 MKL$($00800200,$00800200,$00800200,$00800200,$00b83a00,$00ac6a00,$00e6ce00,=
$00038001)
  a$ =3D a$ +=
 MKL$($00010001,$00038001,$00e6ce00,$00ac6a00,$00b83a00,$00800200,$00800200,=
$00800200)
  a$ =3D a$ +=
 MKL$($00800200,$00800300,$00000000,$00000000,$00000000,$00000000,$00000000,=
$00000000)
  IF !hCursV& THEN hCursV& =3D CreateCursor(_INSTANCE,15,15,32,32,V:a$,V:a$=
 + 128)
  IF !hCursH& THEN hCursH& =3D CreateCursor(_INSTANCE,15,15,32,32,V:a$ +=
 256,V:a$ + 384)
  IF !hCursX& THEN hCursX& =3D LoadCursor(0,IDC_CROSS)
  a$ =3D ""
  RETVAL 1
RETURN
PROCEDURE Wep(Flg&)
  //Cleanup: Destroy Cursors
  //Aufr=E4umen: Cursor freigeben
  //~OutputDebugString("Usage=3D" + DEC$(GetModuleUsage(_INSTANCE)) +=
 CHR$(13,10))
  IF GetModuleUsage(_INSTANCE) < 1
    //Check, if really freed (for multiple use of thgis Dll)
    //Pr=FCfung, ob wirklich freigegeben (wegen m=F6glicher Mehrfachnutzung)
    IF hCursH& THEN ~DestroyCursor(hCursH&)
    IF hCursV& THEN ~DestroyCursor(hCursV&)
    hCursH& =3D 0,hCursV& =3D 0
  ENDIF
  RETVAL 1
RETURN
PROCEDURE GridInit(hInst&)
  $EXPORT GridInit
  //Init Call: I could use LibMain instead, but
  //if I register the Class in LibMain I would have to use a Global Class
  //this does not make a big difference, mainly debugging the control
  //class is more difficult - a global class is shared by all running
  //applications and it is quite difficult to cleanup, and a small error
  //forces a reboot of windows.
  LOCAL lpClass%
  MkCurs()
  lpClass% =3D MALLOC(100)
  IF GetClassInfo(hInst&,"GRIDDY",lpClass%)
    ~UnregisterClass("GRIDDY",hInst&)
  ENDIF
  _CB (1) =3D WndProc(wwwl)
  WORD{lpClass%     } =3D CS_HREDRAW | CS_VREDRAW | CS_DBLCLKS
  LONG{lpClass% +  2} =3D _CB(1)
  WORD{lpClass% +  6} =3D 0
  WORD{lpClass% +  8} =3D 12 //ptr col row flags font
  WORD{lpClass% + 10} =3D hInst&
  WORD{lpClass% + 12} =3D 0
  WORD{lpClass% + 14} =3D LoadCursor(0,IDC_CROSS)
  WORD{lpClass% + 16} =3D 0 //no clearing : no flicker
  LONG{lpClass% + 18} =3D 0
  LONG{lpClass% + 22} =3D lpClass% + 30
  CHAR{lpClass% + 30} =3D "GRIDDY"
  GridClass& =3D RegisterClass(lpClass%)
  IF GetClassInfo(hInst&,"BARDISP",lpClass%)
    ~UnregisterClass("BARDISP",hInst&)
  ENDIF
  _CB (2) =3D BarWndProc(wwwl)
  WORD{lpClass%     } =3D CS_HREDRAW | CS_VREDRAW | CS_DBLCLKS
  LONG{lpClass% +  2} =3D _CB(2)
  WORD{lpClass% +  6} =3D 0
  WORD{lpClass% +  8} =3D 22 //font col0 col1 col2 col3 proz / flag=
 horz/vert
  WORD{lpClass% + 10} =3D hInst&
  WORD{lpClass% + 12} =3D 0
  WORD{lpClass% + 14} =3D LoadCursor(0,IDC_ARROW)
  WORD{lpClass% + 16} =3D 0 //no background
  LONG{lpClass% + 18} =3D 0
  LONG{lpClass% + 22} =3D lpClass% + 30
  CHAR{lpClass% + 30} =3D "BARDISP"
  BarClass& =3D RegisterClass(lpClass%)
  ~MFREE(lpClass%)
  IF !GridClass& || !BarClass&
    IF GridClass& THEN ~UnregisterClass("GRIDDY",hInst&)
    IF BarClass& THEN ~UnregisterClass("BarDisp",hInst&)
    GridClass& =3D 0,BarClass& =3D 0
  ENDIF
  RETVAL GridClass&
RETURN
PROCEDURE GridExit(hInst&)
  $EXPORT GridExit
  IF GridClass& THEN ~UnregisterClass("GRIDDY",hInst&)
  IF BarClass& THEN ~UnregisterClass("BARDISP",hInst&)
  GridClass& =3D 0,BarClass& =3D 0
  RETVAL 1
RETURN
PROCEDURE WndProc(h&,m&,w&,l%)
  LOCAL i&,j&,sDc&,ps$,Rect,Rec2
  LOCAL ca&,ra&,Flg&,fg&,bk&,ql&,xt&,flags&
  LOCAL cx&,cy&,ps&,ph&,op&
  SELECT m&
  CASE WM_CREATE
    InitGrid h&
    IF _AX THEN EXPROC //Error : no window
  CASE 2000
    ResArray h&
    IF w& < 0
      RETVAL cols&
      EXPROC
    ENDIF
    ChgGrid h&,w&,rows&
    EXPROC
  CASE 2001
    ResArray h&
    IF w& < 0
      RETVAL rows&
      EXPROC
    ENDIF
    ChgGrid h&,cols&,w&
    EXPROC
  CASE 2003
    IF w& < 0
      RETVAL GetWindowWord(h&,8)
      EXPROC
    ENDIF
    RETVAL SetWindowWord(h&,8,w&)
    EXPROC
  CASE WM_DESTROY
    ResArray h&
    ERASE Grid$()
    ~MFREE(lpVar%)
    lpVar% =3D 0
    SavArray h&
  CASE WM_SETFONT
    ~SetWindowWord(h&,10,w&)
    IF l% THEN ~InvalidateRect(h&,0,2)
    ~UpdateWindow(h&)
  CASE WM_GETFONT
    RETVAL GetWindowWord(h&,10)
    EXPROC
  CASE WM_SETFOCUS
    ResArray h&
    ca& =3D GetWindowWord(h&,4),ra& =3D GetWindowWord(h&,6)
    InVal h&,ca&,ra&
  CASE WM_KILLFOCUS
    ResArray h&
    ca& =3D GetWindowWord(h&,4),ra& =3D GetWindowWord(h&,6)
    InVal h&,ca&,ra&
  CASE WM_ERASEBKGND
    RETVAL 0
  CASE WM_PAINT
    BEGINPAINT h&,ps$
    fnt& =3D GetWindowWord(h&,10)
    IF fnt& =3D 0 THEN fnt& =3D GetStockObject(SYSTEM_FONT)
    IF CARD(fnt&) < 32 THEN fnt& =3D GetStockObject(fnt&)
    //    ~OutputDebugString("WM_GETFONT : " + HEX$(fnt&) + CHR$(13,10))
    fnt& =3D SelectObject(_DC(),fnt&)
    ResArray h&
    cx& =3D scx&,cy& =3D scy&
    flags& =3D GetWindowWord(h&,8)
    //    odsx "lpVar%",lpVar%
    IF lpVar%
      ~GetWindowRect(h&,V:Rect)
      LET winw& =3D INT{*Rect + 4} - INT{*Rect}
      LET winh& =3D INT{*Rect + 6} - INT{*Rect + 2}
      ca& =3D GetWindowWord(h&,4)
      ra& =3D GetWindowWord(h&,6)
      xx& =3D 0,Flg& =3D 0
      FOR i& =3D 0 TO cols&
        zz& =3D xx& + WORD{lpX% + i& * 2}
        yy& =3D 0
        FOR j& =3D 0 TO rows&
          tt& =3D yy& + WORD{lpY% + j& * 2}
          IF i& =3D 0 || j& =3D 0
            bk& =3D COLOR_BTNFACE,fg& =3D COLOR_BTNTEXT
          ELSE
            IF (i& =3D ca& && ra& =3D 0) || (j& =3D ra& && ca& =3D 0)
              bk& =3D COLOR_HIGHLIGHT,fg& =3D COLOR_HIGHLIGHTTEXT
            ELSE IF i& =3D ca& && j& =3D ra&
              IF WORD(GetFocus()) =3D h&
                bk& =3D COLOR_WINDOW,fg& =3D COLOR_WINDOWTEXT
                Flg& =3D 1
              ELSE
                bk& =3D COLOR_HIGHLIGHT,fg& =3D COLOR_HIGHLIGHTTEXT
              ENDIF
            ELSE
              bk& =3D COLOR_WINDOW,fg& =3D COLOR_WINDOWTEXT
            ENDIF
          ENDIF
          ~SetBkColor(_DC(),GetSysColor(bk&))
          ~SetTextColor(_DC(),GetSysColor(fg&))
          ~SetRect(*Rec2,xx&,yy&,zz&,tt&)
          IF flags& & 4
            xt& =3D 0
            IF flags& & 1
              xt& =3D DT_RIGHT
            ENDIF
            IF flags& & 2
              xt& =3D DT_CENTER
            ENDIF
            ~ExtTextOut(_DC(),0,0,ETO_OPAQUE | ETO_CLIPPED,V:Rec2,0,0,0)
            ~DrawText(_DC(),V:Grid$(i&,j&),LEN(Grid$(i&,j&)),V:Rec2,xt& |=
 DT_WORDBREAK | DT_NOPREFIX)
          ELSE
            xt& =3D xx& + 1
            IF flags& & 1
              ql& =3D TXTLEN(Grid$(i&,j&))
              xt& =3D zz& - ql& - 2
            ENDIF
            IF flags& & 2
              ql& =3D TXTLEN(Grid$(i&,j&))
              xt& =3D (zz& + xx& - ql& - 3) >> 1
            ENDIF
            ~ExtTextOut(_DC(),xt&,yy&,ETO_OPAQUE |=
 ETO_CLIPPED,V:Rec2,V:Grid$(i&,j&),LEN(Grid$(i&,j&)),0)
          ENDIF
          IF i& =3D 0 || j& =3D 0
            //GetSysColor(20)) //COLOR_BTNHIGHLIGHT
            //GetSysColor(16)) //COLOR_BTNSHADOW
            ph& =3D CreatePen(PS_SOLID,1,GetSysColor(20))
            ps& =3D CreatePen(PS_SOLID,1,GetSysColor(16))
            op& =3D SelectObject(_DC(),ph&)
            DRAW xx&,tt& - 1 TO xx&,yy& TO zz& - 1,yy&
            ~SelectObject(_DC(),ps&)
            DRAW TO zz& - 1,tt& - 1 TO xx&,tt& - 1
            ~SelectObject(_DC(),ph&)
            DRAW xx& + 1,tt& - 2 TO xx& + 1,yy& + 1 TO zz& - 2,yy& + 1
            ~SelectObject(_DC(),ps&)
            DRAW TO zz& - 2,tt& - 2 TO xx& + 1,tt& - 2
            ~SelectObject(_DC(),op&)
            ~DeleteObject(ps&)
            ~DeleteObject(ph&)
          ELSE IF ~flags& & 16
            ~SetRect(*Rec2,xx& - 1,yy& - 1,zz&,tt&)
            ~FrameRect(_DC(),*Rec2,GetStockObject(GRAY_BRUSH))
          ENDIF
          IF Flg&
            ~SetRect(*Rec2,xx&,yy&,zz& - 1,tt& - 1)
            ~DrawFocusRect(_DC(),*Rec2)
            Flg& =3D 0
          ENDIF
          yy& =3D tt&
          IF j& =3D 0 THEN j& +=3D cy&
          EXIT IF yy& > winh&
        NEXT j&
        xx& =3D zz&
        IF i& =3D 0 THEN i& +=3D cx&
        EXIT IF xx& > winw&
      NEXT i&
      IF xx& < winw&
        ~SetBkColor(_DC(),GetSysColor(COLOR_BTNFACE))
        ~SetRect(*Rec2,xx&,0,winw&,winh&)
        ~ExtTextOut(_DC(),0,0,ETO_OPAQUE,*Rec2,0,0,0)
      ENDIF
      IF yy& < winh&
        ~SetBkColor(_DC(),GetSysColor(COLOR_BTNFACE))
        ~SetRect(*Rec2,0,yy&,winw&,winh&)
        ~ExtTextOut(_DC(),0,0,ETO_OPAQUE,*Rec2,0,0,0)
      ENDIF
    ENDIF
    fnt& =3D SelectObject(_DC(),fnt&)
    ENDPAINT h&,ps$
  CASE WM_LBUTTONUP
    IF gCapt&
      ResArray h&
      ~ReleaseCapture()
      ~ClipCursor(0)
      DC& =3D GetDC(h&)
      ~DrawFocusRect(DC&,*gRect)
      ~ReleaseDC(h&,DC&)
      IF gCapt& =3D 2
        INT{lpX% + gnCol& + gnCol&} =3D LOWORD(l%) - gnBase&
      ELSE
        INT{lpY% + gnCol& + gnCol&} =3D HIWORD(l%) - gnBase&
      ENDIF
      ~InvalidateRect(h&,0,1)
      LET gCapt& =3D 0
      ChgScroll h&
    ENDIF
  CASE WM_MOUSEMOVE
    ResArray h&
    IF gCapt&
      DC& =3D GetDC(h&)
      ~DrawFocusRect(DC&,*gRect)
      IF gCapt& =3D 2
        ~SetRect(*gRect,LOWORD(l%),-1,32767,32767)
      ELSE
        ~SetRect(*gRect,-1,HIWORD(l%),32767,32767)
      ENDIF
      ~DrawFocusRect(DC&,*gRect)
      ~ReleaseDC(h&,DC&)
      ~SetCursor(gCurs&)
    ELSE
      LET gCurs& =3D hCursX&
      IF LOWORD(l%) < INT{lpX%}
        yy& =3D -1
        FOR i& =3D 0 TO rows&
          yy& +=3D INT{lpY% + i& + i&}
          zz& =3D HIWORD(l%) - yy&
          zz& =3D ABS(zz&)
          IF zz& < 3 && ~GetWindowWord(h&,8) & 32
            LET gCurs& =3D hCursV&
            LET gnCol& =3D i&
            LET gnBase& =3D yy& - INT{lpY% + i& + i&}
          ENDIF
          IF i& =3D 0 THEN i& +=3D scy&
        NEXT i&
      ENDIF
      IF HIWORD(l%) < INT{lpY%}
        xx& =3D -1
        FOR i& =3D 0 TO cols&
          xx& +=3D INT{lpX% + i& + i&}
          zz& =3D LOWORD(l%) - xx&
          zz& =3D ABS(zz&)
          IF zz& < 3 && ~GetWindowWord(h&,8) & 64
            LET gCurs& =3D hCursH&
            LET gnCol& =3D i&
            LET gnBase& =3D xx& - INT{lpX% + i& + i&}
          ENDIF
          IF i& =3D 0 THEN i& +=3D scx&
        NEXT i&
      ENDIF
      ~SetCursor(gCurs&)
    ENDIF
  CASE WM_LBUTTONDOWN
    Flg& =3D 0
    GetPosXY(h&,l%,ca&,ra&,xx&,yy&)
    i& =3D ca&,j& =3D ra&
    IF gCurs& =3D hCursV& && i& =3D 0
      ~GetWindowRect(h&,*Rect)
      INT{*Rect + 2} =3D INT{*Rect + 2} + gnBase& + 2
      ~ClipCursor(*Rect)
      ~SetCapture(h&)
      ~SetRect(*gRect,-1,HIWORD(l%),32767,32767)
      DC& =3D GetDC(h&)
      ~DrawFocusRect(DC&,*gRect)
      ~ReleaseDC(h&,DC&)
      Flg& =3D 1,gCapt& =3D 1
    ENDIF
    IF gCurs& =3D hCursH& && j& =3D 0
      ~GetWindowRect(h&,*Rect)
      INT{*Rect} =3D INT{*Rect} + gnBase& + 2
      ~ClipCursor(*Rect)
      ~SetCapture(h&)
      ~SetRect(*gRect,LOWORD(l%),-1,32767,32767)
      DC& =3D GetDC(h&)
      ~DrawFocusRect(DC&,*gRect)
      ~ReleaseDC(h&,DC&)
      Flg& =3D 1,gCapt& =3D 2
    ENDIF
    IF Flg& =3D 0 && LOWORD(l%) !=3D xx& && HIWORD(l%) !=3D yy&
      IF GetWindowWord(h&,8) & 128 && i& =3D 0 THEN i& =3D 1
      IF GetWindowWord(h&,8) & 256 && j& =3D 0 THEN j& =3D 1
      ca& =3D SetWindowWord(h&,4,i&)
      ra& =3D SetWindowWord(h&,6,j&)
      InVal h&,ca&,ra&
      InVal h&,i&,j&
      POSTMESSAGE GetParent(h&),3000,h&,MAKELONG(j&,i&)
      ~SetFocus(h&)
    ENDIF
    ~SetCursor(gCurs&)
  CASE WM_MBUTTONDBLCLK
    Click h&,l%,3005
  CASE WM_MBUTTONDOWN
    Click h&,l%,3004
  CASE WM_RBUTTONDBLCLK
    Click h&,l%,3003
  CASE WM_RBUTTONDOWN
    Click h&,l%,3002
  CASE WM_LBUTTONDBLCLK
    Click h&,l%,3001
  CASE WM_GETDLGCODE
    RETVAL DLGC_WANTARROWS
    EXPROC
  CASE WM_KEYDOWN
    ResArray h&
    ca& =3D GetWindowWord(h&,4),xx& =3D ca&
    ra& =3D GetWindowWord(h&,6),yy& =3D ra&
    //    ~OutputDebugString("WM_KEYDOWN " + DEC$(w&) + " " + HEX$(l%,8) +=
 CHR$(13,10))
    SELECT w&
    CASE VK_NEXT
      PageDown h&,yy&
    CASE VK_DOWN
      IF GetKeyState(VK_CONTROL) < 0
        PageDown h&,yy&
      ELSE
        IF yy& < rows& THEN yy& ++
      ENDIF
    CASE VK_PRIOR
      PageUp h&,yy&
    CASE VK_UP
      IF GetKeyState(VK_CONTROL) < 0
        PageUp h&,yy&
      ELSE
        IF yy& > 1 THEN yy& --
      ENDIF
    CASE VK_LEFT
      IF GetKeyState(VK_CONTROL) < 0
        PageLeft h&,xx&
      ELSE
        IF xx& > 1 THEN xx& --
      ENDIF
    CASE VK_RIGHT
      IF GetKeyState(VK_CONTROL) < 0
        PageRight h&,xx&
      ELSE
        IF xx& < cols& THEN xx& ++
      ENDIF
    ENDSELECT
    IF ca& !=3D xx& || ra& !=3D yy&
      ~SetWindowWord(h&,4,xx&)
      ~SetWindowWord(h&,6,yy&)
      InVal h&,ca&,ra&
      InVal h&,xx&,yy&
      ChgXY h&,xx&,yy&
      POSTMESSAGE GetParent(h&),3006,h&,MAKELONG(yy&,xx&)
    ENDIF
  CASE WM_HSCROLL
    ~GetScrollRange(h&,SB_HORZ,*cx&,*ca&)
    xx& =3D scx&
    SWITCH w&
    CASE SB_BOTTOM
      xx& =3D 0
    CASE SB_LINEDOWN
      xx& ++
    CASE SB_LINEUP
      xx& --
    CASE SB_PAGEDOWN
      PageRight h&,xx&
    CASE SB_PAGEUP
      PageLeft h&,xx&
    CASE SB_THUMBPOSITION
      xx& =3D LOWORD(l%)
    CASE SB_TOP
      xx& =3D 32767
    ENDSELECT
    IF xx& < 0 THEN xx& =3D 0
    IF xx& > ca& THEN xx& =3D ca&
    IF xx& !=3D scx&
      ~SetScrollPos(h&,SB_HORZ,xx&,1)
      ~InvalidateRect(h&,0,1)
    ENDIF
  CASE WM_VSCROLL
    ~GetScrollRange(h&,SB_VERT,*cx&,*ca&)
    yy& =3D scy&
    SWITCH w&
    CASE SB_BOTTOM
      yy& =3D 0
    CASE SB_LINEDOWN
      yy& ++
    CASE SB_LINEUP
      yy& --
    CASE SB_PAGEDOWN
      PageDown h&,yy&
    CASE SB_PAGEUP
      PageUp h&,yy&
    CASE SB_THUMBPOSITION
      yy& =3D LOWORD(l%)
    CASE SB_TOP
      yy& =3D 32767
    ENDSELECT
    IF yy& < 0 THEN yy& =3D 0
    IF yy& > ca& THEN yy& =3D ca&
    IF yy& !=3D scy&
      ~SetScrollPos(h&,SB_VERT,yy&,1)
      ~InvalidateRect(h&,0,1)
    ENDIF
  ENDSELECT
  RETVAL DefWindowProc(h&,m&,w&,l%)
RETURN
PROCEDURE PageLeft(h&,VAR i&)
  LOCAL Rect,yy&,zz&
  ~GetClientRect(h&,*Rect)
  yy& =3D INT{*Rect + 4} - INT{lpX%}
  zz& =3D INT{lpX% + i& + i&}
  DO
    EXIT IF i& =3D 1
    zz& +=3D INT{lpX% + i& + i& - 2}
    EXIT IF zz& > yy&
    i& --
  LOOP
RETURN
PROCEDURE PageRight(h&,VAR i&)
  LOCAL Rect,yy&,zz&
  ~GetClientRect(h&,*Rect)
  yy& =3D INT{*Rect + 4} - INT{lpX%}
  zz& =3D INT{lpX% + i& + i&}
  DO
    EXIT IF i& >=3D cols& - 1
    i& ++
    zz& +=3D INT{lpX% + i& + i&}
    EXIT IF zz& > yy&
  LOOP
RETURN
PROCEDURE PageUp(h&,VAR j&)
  LOCAL Rect,yy&,zz&
  ~GetClientRect(h&,*Rect)
  yy& =3D INT{*Rect + 6} - INT{lpY%}
  zz& =3D INT{lpY% + j& + j&}
  DO
    EXIT IF j& =3D 1
    zz& +=3D INT{lpY% + j& + j& - 2}
    EXIT IF zz& > yy&
    j& --
  LOOP
RETURN
PROCEDURE PageDown(h&,VAR j&)
  LOCAL Rect,yy&,zz&
  ~GetClientRect(h&,*Rect)
  yy& =3D INT{*Rect + 6} - INT{lpY%}
  zz& =3D INT{lpY% + j& + j&}
  DO
    EXIT IF j& >=3D rows& - 1
    j& ++
    zz& +=3D INT{lpY% + j& + j&}
    EXIT IF zz& > yy&
  LOOP
RETURN
PROCEDURE Click(h&,l%,Flg&)
  LOCAL ca&,ra&,xx&,yy&
  GetPosXY(h&,l%,ca&,ra&,xx&,yy&)
  POSTMESSAGE GetParent(h&),Flg&,h&,MAKELONG(ra&,ca&)
RETURN
PROCEDURE GetPosXY(h&,l% VAR i&,j&,xx&,yy&)
  ResArray h&
  xx& =3D -1,yy& =3D -1
  FOR i& =3D 0 TO cols& - 1
    xx& +=3D INT{lpX% + i& + i&}
    EXIT IF LOWORD(l%) <=3D xx&
    IF i& =3D 0 THEN i& +=3D scx&
  NEXT i&
  FOR j& =3D 0 TO rows& - 1
    yy& +=3D INT{lpY% + j& + j&}
    EXIT IF HIWORD(l%) <=3D yy&
    IF j& =3D 0 THEN j& +=3D scy&
  NEXT j&
RETURN
//PROCEDURE ods(a$,a)
//~OutputDebugString(a$ + "=3D" + STR$(a) + " ")
//RETURN
//PROCEDURE odsx(a$,a%)
//~OutputDebugString(a$ + "=3D" + HEX$(a%,8) + " ")
//RETURN
//PROCEDURE odcr
//~OutputDebugString(CHR$(13,10))
//RETURN
PROCEDURE SavArray(h&)
  IF lpVar% THEN BMOVE *Grid$(),lpVar%,16
  {*Grid$()} =3D 0
  ~SetWindowLong(h&,0,lpVar%)
RETURN
PROCEDURE ResArray(h&)
  lpVar% =3D GetWindowLong(h&,0)
  cols& =3D -1,rows& =3D -1
  IF lpVar% =3D 0 THEN EXPROC
  BMOVE lpVar%,*Grid$(),16
  cols& =3D INT{lpVar% + 16}
  rows& =3D INT{lpVar% + 18}
  lpX%  =3D lpVar% + 20
  lpY%  =3D ADD(lpX%,cols& * 2,2)
  scx& =3D GetScrollPos(h&,SB_HORZ)
  scy& =3D GetScrollPos(h&,SB_VERT)
RETURN
PROCEDURE InitGrid(h&)
  TRY
    _EAX =3D -1
    lpVar% =3D MALLOC(24)
    IF lpVar% =3D 0 THEN EXPROC
    MEMBFILL lpVar%,24,0
    {*Grid$()} =3D 0      //This is the Change for Multiple GRIDDYs
    //ERASE Grid$()
    DIM Grid$(0,0)
    Grid$(0,0) =3D "Grid"
    INT{lpVar% + 20} =3D 40
    INT{lpVar% + 22} =3D 18
    SavArray h&
    _EAX =3D 0
  CATCH
RETURN
PROCEDURE ChgGrid(h&,c&,r&)
  LOCAL i&,j&
  LOCAL lpTmp% =3D 0,o%,n%
  TRY
    ERASE Grid1$()
    n% =3D 24 +    c& * 2 + r& * 2
    lpTmp% =3D MALLOC(n%)
    IF lpTmp% =3D 0 THEN ERROR 1
    DIM Grid1$(c&,r&)
    FOR i& =3D 0 TO c&
      FOR j& =3D 0 TO r&
        IF i& <=3D cols& && j& <=3D rows&
          SWAP Grid$(i&,j&),Grid1$(i&,j&)
        ENDIF
      NEXT j&
    NEXT i&
    SWAP Grid$(),Grid1$()
    ERASE Grid1$()
    o% =3D 24 + cols& * 2 + rows& * 2
    INT{lpTmp% + 16} =3D c&
    INT{lpTmp% + 18} =3D r&
    o% =3D lpX%,n% =3D lpTmp% + 20
    FOR i& =3D 0 TO IMIN(cols&,c&)
      INT{n%} =3D INT{o%}
      o% +=3D 2,n% +=3D 2
    NEXT i&
    FOR i& =3D i& TO c&
      INT{n%} =3D 40
      n% +=3D 2
    NEXT i&
    FOR i& =3D 0 TO IMIN(rows&,r&)
      INT{n%} =3D INT{o%}
      o% +=3D 2,n% +=3D 2
    NEXT i&
    FOR i& =3D i& TO r&
      INT{n%} =3D 20
      n% +=3D 2
    NEXT i&
    SWAP lpTmp%,lpVar%
    ~MFREE(lpTmp%)
    SavArray h&
    ChgScroll h&
  CATCH
  _EAX =3D 0
  ~MFREE(lpTmp%)
RETURN
PROCEDURE InVal(h&,c&,r&)
  LOCAL i&,x& =3D 0,y& =3D 0,Rect
  IF c& < 0 || c& > cols& THEN EXPROC
  IF r& < 0 || r& > rows& THEN EXPROC
  FOR i& =3D 0 TO c& - 1
    x& +=3D INT{lpX% + i& + i&}
    IF i& =3D 0 THEN i& =3D scx&
  NEXT i&
  FOR i& =3D 0 TO r& - 1
    y& +=3D INT{lpY% + i& + i&}
    IF i& =3D 0 THEN i& =3D scy&
  NEXT i&
  ~SetRect(*Rect,x&,y&,x& + INT{lpX% + c& + c&},y& + INT{lpY% + r& + r&})
  IF r& =3D 0
    ~GetClientRect(h&,*Rect)
    INT{*Rect} =3D x&
    INT{*Rect + 4} =3D x& + INT{lpX% + c& + c&}
  ELSE IF c& =3D 0
    ~GetClientRect(h&,*Rect)
    INT{*Rect + 2} =3D y&
    INT{*Rect + 6}=20=3D y& + INT{lpY% + r& + r&}
  ENDIF
  ~InvalidateRect(h&,*Rect,1)
RETURN
PROCEDURE SetText(h&,c&,r&,ptr%,len&)
  $EXPORT GridSetTextL
  _EAX =3D 0
  ResArray h&
  IF c& < 0 || c& > cols& THEN EXPROC
  IF r& < 0 || r& > rows& THEN EXPROC
  Grid$(c&,r&) =3D PEEK$(ptr%,len&)
  InVal h&,c&,r&
  _EAX =3D 1
RETURN
PROCEDURE SetText1(h&,c&,r&,ptr%)
  $EXPORT GridSetText
  _EAX =3D 0
  ResArray h&
  IF c& < 0 || c& > cols& THEN EXPROC
  IF r& < 0 || r& > rows& THEN EXPROC
  Grid$(c&,r&) =3D CHAR{ptr%}
  InVal h&,c&,r&
  _EAX =3D 1
RETURN
PROCEDURE SetTextN(h&,c&,r&,ptr%,len&)
  $EXPORT GridSetTextNL
  _EAX =3D 0
  ResArray h&
  IF c& < 0 || c& > cols& THEN EXPROC
  IF r& < 0 || r& > rows& THEN EXPROC
  Grid$(c&,r&) =3D PEEK$(ptr%,len&)
  _EAX =3D 1
RETURN
PROCEDURE SetTextN1(h&,c&,r&,ptr%)
  $EXPORT GridSetTextN
  _EAX =3D 0
  ResArray h&
  IF c& < 0 || c& > cols& THEN EXPROC
  IF r& < 0 || r& > rows& THEN EXPROC
  Grid$(c&,r&) =3D CHAR{ptr%}
  _EAX =3D 1
RETURN
PROCEDURE SetColWid(h&,c&,w&)
  $EXPORT GridSetWidth
  _EAX =3D 0
  ResArray h&
  IF c& < 0 || c& > cols& THEN EXPROC
  _EAX =3D INT{lpX% + c& + c&}
  IF w& > 0 THEN INT{lpX% + c& + c&} =3D w&
  ~InvalidateRect(h&,0,1)
  ChgScroll(h&)
RETURN
PROCEDURE SetRowHei(h&,r&,w&)
  $EXPORT GridSetHeight
  _EAX =3D 0
  ResArray h&
  IF r& < 0 || r& > rows& THEN EXPROC
  _EAX =3D INT{lpY% + r& + r&}
  IF w& > 0 THEN INT{lpY% + r& + r&} =3D w&
  ~InvalidateRect(h&,0,1)
  ChgScroll(h&)
RETURN
PROCEDURE ChgScroll(h&)
  LOCAL i&,xx&=3D0,yy&=3D0,zz&,tt&
  LOCAL Rect,a&,b&,tmp%
  ResArray h&
  zz& =3D GetWindowWord(h&,4)
  tt& =3D GetWindowWord(h&,6)
  IF !zz& || !tt&
    tmp% =3D _EAX
    Activate h&,zz& - !zz&,tt& - !tt&
    _EAX =3D tmp%
  ENDIF
  FOR i& =3D 0 TO cols&
    xx& +=3D INT{lpX% + i& + i&}
  NEXT i&
  FOR i& =3D 0 TO rows&
    yy& +=3D INT{lpY% + i& + i&}
  NEXT i&
  ~GetClientRect(h&,*Rect)
  zz& =3D INT{*Rect + 4},tt& =3D INT{*Rect + 6}
  IF zz& < INT{lpX%} THEN EXPROC
  IF tt& < INT{lpY%} THEN EXPROC
  ~GetScrollRange(h&,SB_HORZ,*a&,*b&)
  IF xx& <=3D zz&
    IF b&
      ~SetScrollRange(h&,SB_HORZ,0,0,1)
      ~SetScrollPos(h&,SB_HORZ,0,0)
      ~InvalidateRect(h&,0,1)
    ENDIF
  ELSE
    a& =3D cols&,xx& =3D INT{lpX%}
    WHILE a& > 1 && xx& < zz&
      xx& +=3D INT{lpX% + a& + a&}
      a& --
    WEND
    IF a& < cols& THEN a& ++
    IF a& !=3D b&
      ~SetScrollRange(h&,SB_HORZ,0,a&,1)
      IF scx& > a& THEN ~SetScrollPos(h&,SB_HORZ,a&,0)
      ~InvalidateRect(h&,0,1)
    ENDIF
  ENDIF
  ~GetScrollRange(h&,SB_VERT,*a&,*b&)
  IF yy& <=3D tt&
    IF b&
      ~SetScrollRange(h&,SB_VERT,0,0,1)
      ~SetScrollPos(h&,SB_VERT,0,0)
      ~InvalidateRect(h&,0,1)
    ENDIF
  ELSE
    //a& =3D rows& - 1
    a& =3D rows&,yy& =3D INT{lpY%}
    WHILE a& > 1 && yy& < tt&
      yy& +=3D INT{lpY% + a& + a&}
      a& --
    WEND
    IF a& < rows& THEN a& ++
    IF a& !=3D b&
      ~SetScrollRange(h&,SB_VERT,0,a&,1)
      IF scy& > a& THEN ~SetScrollPos(h&,SB_VERT,a&,0)
      ~InvalidateRect(h&,0,1)
    ENDIF
  ENDIF
RETURN
PROCEDURE SetAlign(h&,w&)
  $EXPORT GridSetAlign
  ResArray h&
  _EAX =3D GetWindowWord(h&,8) & 7
  IF w& >=3D 0 && w& < 7
    w& |=3D GetWindowWord(h&,8) & ~7
    ~SetWindowWord(h&,8,w&)
    ~InvalidateRect(h&,0,0)
  ENDIF
RETURN
PROCEDURE SetColCnt(h&,w&)
  $EXPORT GridSetColCnt
  RETVAL SendMessage(h&,2000,w&,0)
RETURN
PROCEDURE SetRowCnt(h&,w&)
  $EXPORT GridSetRowCnt
  RETVAL SendMessage(h&,2001,w&,0)
RETURN
PROCEDURE Activate(h&,c&,r&)
  $EXPORT GridActivate
  LOCAL ca&,ra&
  ResArray h&
  ca& =3D GetWindowWord(h&,4)
  ra& =3D GetWindowWord(h&,6)
  _EAX =3D MAKELONG(ra&,ca&)
  IF c& < 0 || c& > cols& THEN EXPROC
  IF r& < 0 || r& > rows& THEN EXPROC
  ~SetWindowWord(h&,4,c&)
  ~SetWindowWord(h&,6,r&)
  InVal h&,ca&,ra&
  InVal h&,c&,r&
  ChgXY h&,c&,r&
RETURN
PROCEDURE GetText(h&,c&,r&,lp%)
  $Export GridGetTextSt
  LOCAL sz%,ln&
  ResArray h&
  _EAX =3D 0
  IF c& < 0 || c& > cols& THEN EXPROC
  IF r& < 0 || r& > rows& THEN EXPROC
  RETVAL LEN(Grid$(c&,r&))
  sz% =3D _LSL(HIWORD(lp%))
  IF sz% =3D 0 THEN EXPROC
  IF sz% < CARD(lp% - 6) THEN EXPROC
  ln& =3D INT{lp% - 2}
  MEMBFILL lp%,ln&,32
  POKE$ lp%,LEFT$(Grid$(c&,r&),ln&)
RETURN
PROCEDURE GetTextC(h&,c&,r&,lp%,max&)
  $Export GridGetTextC
  LOCAL sz%,ln&
  ResArray h&
  IF c& < 0 || c& > cols& THEN EXPROC
  IF r& < 0 || r& > rows& THEN EXPROC
  RETVAL LEN(Grid$(c&,r&))
  sz% =3D _LSL(HIWORD(lp%))
  IF sz% =3D 0 THEN EXPROC
  IF sz% < CARD(max& + lp%) THEN EXPROC
  CHAR{lp%} =3D LEFT$(Grid$(c&,r&),max& - 1)
RETURN
PROCEDURE ChgXY(h&,c&,r&) //cursor movement
  LOCAL i&,x&,y&,Rect
  LOCAL xx&,yy&,dmy&
  ~GetClientRect(h&,*Rect)
  ~GetScrollRange(h&,SB_HORZ,*dmy&,*xx&)
  ~GetScrollRange(h&,SB_VERT,*dmy&,*yy&)
  IF xx& && c&
    IF c& <=3D scx&
      ~SetScrollPos(h&,SB_HORZ,c& - 1,1)
      ~InvalidateRect(h&,0,1)
    ELSE
      x& =3D 0
      FOR i& =3D scx& TO c&
        x& +=3D INT{lpX% + i& + i&}
      NEXT i&
      IF x& >=3D INT{*Rect + 4}
        IF i& !=3D scx&
          IF scx& !=3D xx&
            DO
              x& -=3D INT{lpX% + scx& + scx&}
              scx& ++
              EXIT IF scx& =3D xx&
              EXIT IF x& <=3D INT{*Rect + 4}
            LOOP
          ENDIF
          ~SetScrollPos(h&,SB_HORZ,scx&,1)
          ~InvalidateRect(h&,0,1)
        ENDIF
      ENDIF
    ENDIF
  ENDIF
  IF yy& && r&
    IF r& <=3D scy&
      ~SetScrollPos(h&,SB_VERT,r& - 1,1)
      ~InvalidateRect(h&,0,1)
    ELSE
      x& =3D 0
      FOR i& =3D scy& TO r&
        x& +=3D INT{lpY% + i& + i&}
      NEXT i&
      IF x& >=3D INT{*Rect + 6}
        IF i& !=3D scy&
          IF scy& !=3D yy&
            DO
              x& -=3D INT{lpY% + scy& + scy&}
              scy& ++
              EXIT IF scy& =3D yy&
              EXIT IF x& <=3D INT{*Rect + 6}
            LOOP
          ENDIF
          ~SetScrollPos(h&,SB_VERT,scy&,1)
          ~InvalidateRect(h&,0,1)
        ENDIF
      ENDIF
    ENDIF
  ENDIF
RETURN

PROCEDURE BarWndProc(h&,m&,w&,l%)
  LOCAL ps$,a$,Rect,Rec2,x&,y&,xx&,yy&,Proz&
  SWITCH m&
  CASE WM_GETFONT
    RETVAL GetWindowWord(h&,0)
    EXPROC
  CASE WM_SETFONT
    ~SetWindowWord(h&,0,w&)
    IF l% THEN ~InvalidateRect(h&,0,1)
    RETVAL 0
    EXPROC
  CASE WM_CREATE
    ~SetWindowLong(h&, 2,RGB(255,255,255))      //White on Blue
    ~SetWindowLong(h&, 6,RGB(  0,  0,255))
    ~SetWindowLong(h&,10,RGB(  0,  0,  0))      //Black on Grey
    ~SetWindowLong(h&,14,RGB(192,192,192))
  CASE 2000
    w& =3D (w& & 3) * 4 + 2
    RETVAL GetWindowLong(h&,w&)
    IF l% >=3D 0
      ~SetWindowLong(h&,w&,l%)
      ~InvalidateRect(h&,0,1)
    ENDIF
    EXPROC
  CASE 2001
    IF w& < 0
      RETVAL GetWindowWord(h&,18)
      EXPROC
    ENDIF
    IF w& > 1000 THEN w& =3D 1000
    RETVAL SetWindowWord(h&,18,w&)
    ~InvalidateRect(h&,0,0)
    IF GetWindowWord(h&,20) & 2 THEN ~UpdateWindow(h&)
    EXPROC
  CASE 2002 //invert
    ~SetWindowLong(h&,2,SetWindowLong(h&,10,GetWindowLong(h&,2))) //swap=
 colors
    ~SetWindowLong(h&,6,SetWindowLong(h&,14,GetWindowLong(h&,6)))
    SENDMESSAGE h&,2001,1000 - GetWindowWord(h&,18),0
    EXPROC
  CASE 2003
    RETVAL GetWindowWord(h&,20)
    IF w& < 0 THEN EXPROC
    ~SetWindowWord(h&,20,w&)
    ~InvalidateRect(h&,0,1)
    EXPROC
  CASE WM_PAINT
    BEGINPAINT h&,ps$
    ~GetClientRect(h&,*Rect)
    a$ =3D _WIN$(h&)
    fnt& =3D GetWindowWord(h&,0)
    IF !fnt& THEN SETFONT fnt&
    x& =3D TXTLEN(a$)
    xx& =3D INT{*Rect + 4},yy& =3D INT{*Rect + 6} //breite & H=F6he
    y& =3D HIWORD(GetTextExtent(_DC(),V:a$,LEN(a$))) //H=F6he Text
    y& =3D (yy& - y&) >> 1 //vert. center
    x& =3D (xx& - x&) >> 1 //horiz. center
    IF GetWindowWord(h&,20) & 1 //vert.
      Proz& =3D MulDiv(yy& * 16,GetWindowWord(h&,18),16000)
      IF Proz& > 1
        ~SetRect(*Rec2,0,0,xx&,Proz&)
        ~SetTextColor(_DC(),GetWindowLong(h&,2))
        ~SetBkColor(_DC(),GetWindowLong(h&,6))
        ~ExtTextOut(_DC(),x&,y&,ETO_OPAQUE |=
 ETO_CLIPPED,*Rec2,V:a$,LEN(a$),0)
      ENDIF
      IF Proz& < yy& - 1
        ~SetRect(*Rec2,0,Proz&,xx&,yy&)
        ~SetTextColor(_DC(),GetWindowLong(h&,10))
        ~SetBkColor(_DC(),GetWindowLong(h&,14))
        ~ExtTextOut(_DC(),x&,y&,ETO_OPAQUE |=
 ETO_CLIPPED,*Rec2,V:a$,LEN(a$),0)
      ENDIF
    ELSE
      Proz& =3D MulDiv(xx& * 16,GetWindowWord(h&,18),16000)
      IF Proz& > 1
        ~SetRect(*Rec2,0,0,Proz&,yy&)
        ~SetTextColor(_DC(),GetWindowLong(h&,2))
        ~SetBkColor(_DC(),GetWindowLong(h&,6))
        ~ExtTextOut(_DC(),x&,y&,ETO_OPAQUE |=
 ETO_CLIPPED,*Rec2,V:a$,LEN(a$),0)
      ENDIF
      IF Proz& < xx& - 1
        ~SetRect(*Rec2,Proz&,0,xx&,yy&)
        ~SetTextColor(_DC(),GetWindowLong(h&,10))
        ~SetBkColor(_DC(),GetWindowLong(h&,14))
        ~ExtTextOut(_DC(),x&,y&,ETO_OPAQUE |=
 ETO_CLIPPED,*Rec2,V:a$,LEN(a$),0)
      ENDIF
    ENDIF
    IF fnt& THEN SETFONT SYSTEM_FONT
    ENDPAINT h&,ps$
    RETVAL 0
    EXPROC
  ENDSELECT
  RETVAL DefWindowProc(h&,m&,w&,l%)
RETURN

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Ok... I see enough to realize it isn't what I was thinking.  This makes a
spreadsheet, & to get the full function it looks like one must buy it
from GFA.  Thanks, Keith & Thomas... it could really be needed if I get
back deeply into writing a genealogy program in GFA-W(16).  May have to
look into buying the darned thing in that case.

I was looking for a simple means of drawing a grid onscreen w/o a ton of
LINE statements or procedures.  I'll go back to looking at how rubberbox
handles coloring *it*s lines.

On the printf() question from David...  No, I don't think it has anything
to do with printing hardcopy.  Looks to me like it's a system of APIs to
print to the screen (at least, in DOS) in something much like a DIALOG. I
found it in some *.c & *.h files for one of the DOS appls I use to convert
*.mpg to images & soundtracks.

The RealPlay question... Nope, I have to bumble my way thru those because I
can't find *ANYTHING* or the *.ram or *.rm formats.  *Supposedly*, *.rm is
a movie format & *.ram is a movie w/ sound format.  Both seem to be RealPlay's
propriatary formats, & I'm guessing one has to pay dearly for the priviledge
of getting any info on them.

I *can* extract the images, but only by pausing the player & taking a
screenshot.
There's no way but using a cassette recorder to record the sound (at the
moment).
I don't get all images this way, but each flic contains so many that dropping a
few (50% or more <G>) makes for a smaller *.res file & these don't seem to be
very much jerkier than most are when played in the RealPlay player.  In fact, I
can control the frames/sec in *my* animations & don't see any way to do so in
the RealPlay.  Another factor... *IF* the images are of good enough quality, I
can also increase the display size - sometimes as far as to 640x480!

IF anybody has any info on *this* subject, I'm all ears!  There are several
other
formats (like Vivo), that are becoming popular, but the *.rm & *.ram are 2nd
only
to *.mpg.  That "kit" I sent out will enable you to break *.mpg down to it's
individual images & a playable soundtrack.  It actually sometimes makes 2 sound
tracks, but the one, stm191.mpg, makes rundll32.exe puke it's head off!  I have
no idea what it is, but it's much smaller than the real soundtrack,
stm192.mpg. I
am guessing *that* one is MP3 & if so, Roland made a routine & modules
available 
to perhaps make it possible to play those from GFA-W(16).  From Win95 on,
there's run32dll.exe - it plays that stm192.mpg soundtrack as is, so I'd
guess that due to
built-in association, one could utilize *that* to play the sound.

One more errant thot... I finally got to see some speed outa this 56K modem!
AT&T
shoved a 3.8 Meg upgrade on me at the same time there were 25 e-mails coming
down.
The download was done in 27 minutes... woulda taken more than 6 hours, before!

I'm going to bed.
<G>
TomR.

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> List Member Tom Record
> Ok... I see enough to realize it isn't what I was
> thinking.  This makes a
> spreadsheet, & to get the full function it looks
> like one must buy it
> from GFA.  Thanks, Keith & Thomas... it could really
> be needed if I get
> back deeply into writing a genealogy program in
> GFA-W(16).  May have to
> look into buying the darned thing in that case.

* Geesh Tom make your own Spreadsheet if you like !
  Or use WindowWorks or stuff it's like $20 I think
  :)

> 
> I was looking for a simple means of drawing a grid
> onscreen w/o a ton of
> LINE statements or procedures.  I'll go back to
> looking at how rubberbox
> handles coloring *it*s lines.

* I use grids alla time in Gredit.  What kinds do
  you need ?

> 
> On the printf() question from David...  No, I don't
> think it has anything
> to do with printing hardcopy.  Looks to me like it's
> a system of APIs to
> print to the screen (at least, in DOS) in something
> much like a DIALOG. I
> found it in some *.c & *.h files for one of the DOS
> appls I use to convert
> *.mpg to images & soundtracks.
> 
> The RealPlay question... Nope, I have to bumble my
> way thru those because I
> can't find *ANYTHING* or the *.ram or *.rm formats. 
> *Supposedly*, *.rm is
> a movie format & *.ram is a movie w/ sound format. 
> Both seem to be RealPlay's
> propriatary formats, & I'm guessing one has to pay
> dearly for the priviledge
> of getting any info on them.

* Acch..  Well I got RealPlayer & Co. (just haven't
  installed them cause they too slow here!)  Runs
  sorta OK on Dad's 350mhz pentium but RealMovies
  don't work on either !  I guess you gotta have a
  megabyte megahertz megapentium or something..

> 
> I *can* extract the images, but only by pausing the
> player & taking a
> screenshot.
> There's no way but using a cassette recorder to
> record the sound (at the
> moment).
> I don't get all images this way, but each flic
> contains so many that dropping a
> few (50% or more <G>) makes for a smaller *.res file
> & these don't seem to be
> very much jerkier than most are when played in the
> RealPlay player.  In fact, I
> can control the frames/sec in *my* animations &
> don't see any way to do so in
> the RealPlay.  Another factor... *IF* the images are
> of good enough quality, I
> can also increase the display size - sometimes as
> far as to 640x480!

Yah well Display's good for that use Smooth enlarge
and quantize it as it goes !

* Dju like Paralax2 ?  I know all tiny screen okee
  tap on [V]iew and [F]ull Screen then it goes and
  looks just like a good RPG should.  :)

Sincerely,
David W.
> 
> IF anybody has any info on *this* subject, I'm all
> ears!  There are several
> other
> formats (like Vivo), that are becoming popular, but
> the *.rm & *.ram are 2nd
> only
> to *.mpg.  That "kit" I sent out will enable you to
> break *.mpg down to it's
> individual images & a playable soundtrack.  It
> actually sometimes makes 2 sound
> tracks, but the one, stm191.mpg, makes rundll32.exe
> puke it's head off!  I have
> no idea what it is, but it's much smaller than the
> real soundtrack,
> stm192.mpg. I
> am guessing *that* one is MP3 & if so, Roland made a
> routine & modules
> available 
> to perhaps make it possible to play those from
> GFA-W(16).  From Win95 on,
> there's run32dll.exe - it plays that stm192.mpg
> soundtrack as is, so I'd
> guess that due to
> built-in association, one could utilize *that* to
> play the sound.
> 
> One more errant thot... I finally got to see some
> speed outa this 56K modem!
> AT&T
> shoved a 3.8 Meg upgrade on me at the same time
> there were 25 e-mails coming
> down.
> The download was done in 27 minutes... woulda taken
> more than 6 hours, before!
> 
> I'm going to bed.
> <G>
> TomR.
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Subject: [gfabasic] MIDI Editor Requested !
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi Mr. Loock !

This message is mostly for you but if any-one else
can provide info that'd be great !

I've got a little over 700 <2k .MDZ files now and
want to edit them cause they start to fade out getting
QUIETER Quieter quieter q.u.i.e.t.e.r all in the end
which is great to listen to but not if you wanna
REPEAT it like for game use sooooo I don't really need
like a real MIDI editor but one that can snip off
the trailing fadeout stuff and be real accurate so
cause I can manually myself link it correct and
right to play smooth from end alla way back to
beginning with no hiccups or fadeouts may mean I
can also >Snip!< some from beginning too for slow
startup which is not won't going to sound right !

Scenario is underway !  I know poor Cherry Miya got
left behind and Mucci is snoozing in his little
monster bed..  I'll try to get these programs out and
going may use engine from Paralax2 to do it.

Paralax3 needs to get written soon tho !
Have .WAV files, FX for maps & sprites, MIDs and
I'm gonna try to toss in a smidge of random encounter
combat to showing what that looks like.

Sincerely,
David W.

--- Tom Record
<tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Ok... I see enough to realize it isn't what I was
> thinking.  This makes a
> spreadsheet, & to get the full function it looks
> like one must buy it
> from GFA.  Thanks, Keith & Thomas... it could really
> be needed if I get
> back deeply into writing a genealogy program in
> GFA-W(16).  May have to
> look into buying the darned thing in that case.
> 
> I was looking for a simple means of drawing a grid
> onscreen w/o a ton of
> LINE statements or procedures.  I'll go back to
> looking at how rubberbox
> handles coloring *it*s lines.
> 
> On the printf() question from David...  No, I don't
> think it has anything
> to do with printing hardcopy.  Looks to me like it's
> a system of APIs to
> print to the screen (at least, in DOS) in something
> much like a DIALOG. I
> found it in some *.c & *.h files for one of the DOS
> appls I use to convert
> *.mpg to images & soundtracks.
> 
> The RealPlay question... Nope, I have to bumble my
> way thru those because I
> can't find *ANYTHING* or the *.ram or *.rm formats. 
> *Supposedly*, *.rm is
> a movie format & *.ram is a movie w/ sound format. 
> Both seem to be RealPlay's
> propriatary formats, & I'm guessing one has to pay
> dearly for the priviledge
> of getting any info on them.
> 
> I *can* extract the images, but only by pausing the
> player & taking a
> screenshot.
> There's no way but using a cassette recorder to
> record the sound (at the
> moment).
> I don't get all images this way, but each flic
> contains so many that dropping a
> few (50% or more <G>) makes for a smaller *.res file
> & these don't seem to be
> very much jerkier than most are when played in the
> RealPlay player.  In fact, I
> can control the frames/sec in *my* animations &
> don't see any way to do so in
> the RealPlay.  Another factor... *IF* the images are
> of good enough quality, I
> can also increase the display size - sometimes as
> far as to 640x480!
> 
> IF anybody has any info on *this* subject, I'm all
> ears!  There are several
> other
> formats (like Vivo), that are becoming popular, but
> the *.rm & *.ram are 2nd
> only
> to *.mpg.  That "kit" I sent out will enable you to
> break *.mpg down to it's
> individual images & a playable soundtrack.  It
> actually sometimes makes 2 sound
> tracks, but the one, stm191.mpg, makes rundll32.exe
> puke it's head off!  I have
> no idea what it is, but it's much smaller than the
> real soundtrack,
> stm192.mpg. I
> am guessing *that* one is MP3 & if so, Roland made a
> routine & modules
> available 
> to perhaps make it possible to play those from
> GFA-W(16).  From Win95 on,
> there's run32dll.exe - it plays that stm192.mpg
> soundtrack as is, so I'd
> guess that due to
> built-in association, one could utilize *that* to
> play the sound.
> 
> One more errant thot... I finally got to see some
> speed outa this 56K modem!
> AT&T
> shoved a 3.8 Meg upgrade on me at the same time
> there were 25 e-mails coming
> down.
> The download was done in 27 minutes... woulda taken
> more than 6 hours, before!
> 
> I'm going to bed.
> <G>
> TomR.
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GFA-BASIC NEWS LETTER. 185[WIN16] * 
06/26/00
[From Russel Hayward]
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TYPE OPENFILENAME:
- DWORD lStructSize
- WORD hwndOwner,hInstance
- LONG lpstrFilter,lpstrCustomFilter
- DWORD nMaxCustFilter,nFilterIndex
- LONG lpstrFile
- DWORD nMaxFile
- LONG lpstrFileTitle
- DWORD nMaxFileTitle
- LONG lpstrInitialDir,lpstrTitle
- DWORD Flags
- WORD nFileOffset,nFileExtension
- LONG lpstrDefExt
- DWORD lCustData
- LONG lpfnHook,lpTemplateName
ENDTYPE
OPENFILENAME:ofn.

OPENW #1
ofn.lStructSize=LEN(OPENFILENAME:)
ofn.hwndOwner=WIN(1)
ofn.hInstance=_INSTANCE

filt$="All Files"+CHR$(0)+"*.*"+CHR$(0)+CHR$(0)
ofn.lpstrFilter=V:filt$
ofn.lpstrCustomFilter=0
ofn.nMaxCustFilter=0
ofn.nFilterIndex=1

f$="A_File.Txt"+STRING$(3000,0)
ofn.lpstrFile=V:f$
ofn.nMaxFile=3000

ofn.lpstrFileTitle=NULL
ofn.nMaxFileTitle=0

dr$="C:\"+CHR$(0)
ofn.lpstrInitialDir=V:dr$

ofn.lpstrTitle=NULL
ofn.lpstrDefExt=NULL
ofn.lpfnHook=NULL
ofn.lpTemplateName=NULL

ofn.Flags=OFN_ALLOWMULTISELECT | OFN_NOCHANGEDIR | OFN_HIDEREADONLY

DLL #1,"commdlg"
  DECL BOOL GetOpenFileName(L)
ENDDLL
IF ^GetOpenFileName(V:ofn.)=0 THEN f$="Cancel Was Pressed"
FREEDLL 1

f$=ZTRIM$(f$)
REPEAT
  SLEEP
  ? AT(0,0);f$
UNTIL MENU(1)=4
CLOSEW #1
________________________________________________
David calls this minimal coding. Notice how few lines of code it takes.
' minimal.lst
' by David Wicker
'
DEFINT "A-Z"
OPENW #1,0,0,_X,_Y,0
BMP = LOADBMP("sample.bmp")
DO
  R = RAND(4),A = _X,B = 1 - 2 * (R \ 2)
  IF ODD(R) THEN A = _Y
  FOR I = A * B TO 0 STEP -B * 8
    IF ODD(R) THEN PUT 0,I,BMP
    IF ODD(R) = 0 THEN PUT I,0,BMP
    PEEKEVENT
    EXIT IF MOUSEK
  NEXT I
UNTIL MOUSEK
CLOSEW #1
FREEBMP BMP
_______________________________________________
_______________________________________________
Did you know?

Ok.. This may be common knowledge to most of you
but to me its an exciting and very useful finding
for me.

I didn't know GFA could do this..
QBasic cannot and never has done this..

GFABasic remembers =*ALL*= your variables long after
you have ended the last run and added several hundred
lines of code. I'm using ID# which is a floating
point # 16 places long as well as several dozen arrays
and matrixes.

It remembers every one of them.
Every one.
Every single one.

I can't think of another language that allows you
to add coding for perhaps hours and then you go to
immediate mode to view variables that were set prior
to your last run.

It recalls them all:
+ Even if you save your file in .GFW format
+ Even if you save in ASCII format
+ Even if you ASCII merge further code from
somewhere else

NO variables pointers, references, arrays, nothing
is forgotten.

There are a few exceptions:
+ If you call CLEAR
+ If you load a separate program or reload the
same program over again.
+ You select NEW to start a new program

Immediate mode also allows you to use DIM to create
new arrays on the fly as well.

For those of you who didn't know this, Yah it's a
good find !!

Sincerely,
David W.

_______________________________________________
_______________________________________________

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Greets Dale:

Looks all good except you forgot my tiny little
640x480 pix with minimal !  I'd post it but I don't
have it here cause it was a quick hack.

Other then that looks great !  :)

Sincerely,
David W.

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> 06/26/00
> [From Russel Hayward]
> [Also in Attachment]
> 
> TYPE OPENFILENAME:
> - DWORD lStructSize
> - WORD hwndOwner,hInstance
> - LONG lpstrFilter,lpstrCustomFilter
> - DWORD nMaxCustFilter,nFilterIndex
> - LONG lpstrFile
> - DWORD nMaxFile
> - LONG lpstrFileTitle
> - DWORD nMaxFileTitle
> - LONG lpstrInitialDir,lpstrTitle
> - DWORD Flags
> - WORD nFileOffset,nFileExtension
> - LONG lpstrDefExt
> - DWORD lCustData
> - LONG lpfnHook,lpTemplateName
> ENDTYPE
> OPENFILENAME:ofn.
> 
> OPENW #1
> ofn.lStructSize=LEN(OPENFILENAME:)
> ofn.hwndOwner=WIN(1)
> ofn.hInstance=_INSTANCE
> 
> filt$="All Files"+CHR$(0)+"*.*"+CHR$(0)+CHR$(0)
> ofn.lpstrFilter=V:filt$
> ofn.lpstrCustomFilter=0
> ofn.nMaxCustFilter=0
> ofn.nFilterIndex=1
> 
> f$="A_File.Txt"+STRING$(3000,0)
> ofn.lpstrFile=V:f$
> ofn.nMaxFile=3000
> 
> ofn.lpstrFileTitle=NULL
> ofn.nMaxFileTitle=0
> 
> dr$="C:\"+CHR$(0)
> ofn.lpstrInitialDir=V:dr$
> 
> ofn.lpstrTitle=NULL
> ofn.lpstrDefExt=NULL
> ofn.lpfnHook=NULL
> ofn.lpTemplateName=NULL
> 
> ofn.Flags=OFN_ALLOWMULTISELECT | OFN_NOCHANGEDIR |
> OFN_HIDEREADONLY
> 
> DLL #1,"commdlg"
>   DECL BOOL GetOpenFileName(L)
> ENDDLL
> IF ^GetOpenFileName(V:ofn.)=0 THEN f$="Cancel Was
> Pressed"
> FREEDLL 1
> 
> f$=ZTRIM$(f$)
> REPEAT
>   SLEEP
>   ? AT(0,0);f$
> UNTIL MENU(1)=4
> CLOSEW #1
> ________________________________________________
> David calls this minimal coding. Notice how few
> lines of code it takes.
> ' minimal.lst
> ' by David Wicker
> '
> DEFINT "A-Z"
> OPENW #1,0,0,_X,_Y,0
> BMP = LOADBMP("sample.bmp")
> DO
>   R = RAND(4),A = _X,B = 1 - 2 * (R \ 2)
>   IF ODD(R) THEN A = _Y
>   FOR I = A * B TO 0 STEP -B * 8
>     IF ODD(R) THEN PUT 0,I,BMP
>     IF ODD(R) = 0 THEN PUT I,0,BMP
>     PEEKEVENT
>     EXIT IF MOUSEK
>   NEXT I
> UNTIL MOUSEK
> CLOSEW #1
> FREEBMP BMP
> _______________________________________________
> _______________________________________________
> Did you know?
> 
> Ok.. This may be common knowledge to most of you
> but to me its an exciting and very useful finding
> for me.
> 
> I didn't know GFA could do this..
> QBasic cannot and never has done this..
> 
> GFABasic remembers =*ALL*= your variables long after
> you have ended the last run and added several
> hundred
> lines of code. I'm using ID# which is a floating
> point # 16 places long as well as several dozen
> arrays
> and matrixes.
> 
> It remembers every one of them.
> Every one.
> Every single one.
> 
> I can't think of another language that allows you
> to add coding for perhaps hours and then you go to
> immediate mode to view variables that were set prior
> to your last run.
> 
> It recalls them all:
> + Even if you save your file in .GFW format
> + Even if you save in ASCII format
> + Even if you ASCII merge further code from
> somewhere else
> 
> NO variables pointers, references, arrays, nothing
> is forgotten.
> 
> There are a few exceptions:
> + If you call CLEAR
> + If you load a separate program or reload the
> same program over again.
> + You select NEW to start a new program
> 
> Immediate mode also allows you to use DIM to create
> new arrays on the fly as well.
> 
> For those of you who didn't know this, Yah it's a
> good find !!
> 
> Sincerely,
> David W.
> 
> _______________________________________________
> _______________________________________________
> 
> ENF GFANL185
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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To all subscribers.

It seems I forgot the bitmap for the Minimal.lst routine by  David Wicker. You 
will find it attached to this message.
My apologies,
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
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SETGRID.ZIP - By Tom Record

Scope: establish a visible, color-sensitive grid, adjustable density, over a
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precision for performing morphs & warps.


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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Trim spaces off the string in the buffer (puffer$) & print it.
<G>
TomR.


At 07:07 PM 26/06/00 EDT, you wrote:
>List Member Barlik@aol.com wrote:
>PRINT ZTRIM$(puffer$)  Is this a variable?
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List Member Thomas Gonschor <thomas.gonschor@vph-bensberg.de> wrote:
Hi Anthony!

>That indicates the 43 is a Hexidecimal number. The same number can
>be represented as 67 in decimal form or 01000011 in binary.

Thank you very much!

Kind regards
Yours

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Subject: Re: [gfabasic] MIDI Editor Requested !
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List Member Engelbert van Loock <Engelbert.v@n.loock.com> wrote:
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Hi David,

> I've got a little over 700 <2k .MDZ files now and
> want to edit them cause they start to fade out getting
> QUIETER Quieter quieter q.u.i.e.t.e.r all in the end
> which is great to listen to but not if you wanna
> REPEAT it like for game use sooooo I don't really need
> like a real MIDI editor but one that can snip off
> the trailing fadeout stuff and be real accurate so
> cause I can manually myself link it correct and
> right to play smooth from end alla way back to
> beginning with no hiccups or fadeouts may mean I
> can also >Snip!< some from beginning too for slow
> startup which is not won't going to sound right !

This requests a midi sequenzer software. I prefer the program Logic by
Emagic. Cubase or Cakewalk are good either. There was a free version of
Micro Logic Fun coming with a magazine's cd in Germany. Maybe you have
got a similar offer. The share- and freeware market of this segment I
never needed to know, so I don't.

You could try to extract the fading responsible data that are ctrl $11
(expression - what is recommended) or ctrl $07 (volume - to be used for
the basic mix, but sometimes for the volume variations during the song
too). The attached listing extracts the volume data and can easily be
changed to delete expression data.

A further problem will be the seam at the end and the restart. There is
always a short moment of rest with no defined duration. That means: you
can cut a few ticks (with a sequenzer) for a perfect timing on one
system - on another one it will be messed up. A solution for that is
DirectX (Greetings to John...). DX7 (I do not know about prior versions)
supports so called segments and motives that can be looped and added
lib.

Engelbert
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List Member "OH" <oh@ohtech.de> wrote:
hello,
please excuse me my bad english....
and my bad know-how (i am a beginner!)
i have a problem with gfa and windows nt.
i would read all files in a directory and transform it in strings to handle
this in my program.
under win95/98 it work good but not under win nt.

under win nt i become an error on this part:

DLL #1,"kernel"
DECL LONG FindFirstFile(L,L)
DECL BOOL FindNextFile(L,L)
DECL BOOL FindClose(L)
ENDDLL

what can i do? is there an alternativ routine to read all the files better
all files although the files in the subdirectorys?
i hope you can help me.

tx oh


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hello,
please excuse me my bad english....
and my bad know-how (i am a beginner!)
i have a problem with gfa and windows nt.
i would read all files in a directory and transform it in strings to =
handle
this in my program.
under win95/98 it work good but not under win nt.

under win nt i become an error on this part:

DLL #1,"kernel"
DECL LONG FindFirstFile(L,L)
DECL BOOL FindNextFile(L,L)
DECL BOOL FindClose(L)
ENDDLL

what can i do? is there an alternativ routine to read all the files =
better
all files although the files in the subdirectorys?
i hope you can help me.

tx oh


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List Member "Eberhard Funck" <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de> wrote:
Hi,
The old song about NT and W95/98.
This function are not in the 16bit DLLs of NT

NT have the 16bit DLLs from W3.x

You must work with the same 32bit functions.
How you can work with 32bit functions out of 32bit DLLs
in Dales web page stand many examples.

Greetings

Eberhard

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|List Member "OH" <oh@ohtech.de> wrote:
|hello,
|please excuse me my bad english....
|and my bad know-how (i am a beginner!)
|i have a problem with gfa and windows nt.
|i would read all files in a directory and transform it in strings to han=
dle
|this in my program.
|under win95/98 it work good but not under win nt.
|
|under win nt i become an error on this part:
|
|DLL #1,"kernel"
|DECL LONG FindFirstFile(L,L)
|DECL BOOL FindNextFile(L,L)
|DECL BOOL FindClose(L)
|ENDDLL
|
|what can i do? is there an alternativ routine to read all the files bett=
er
|all files although the files in the subdirectorys?
|i hope you can help me.
|
|tx oh
|
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

Anybody interested?

dll16\zlib16.dll   :    The 16 bits DLL of ZLib 1.13 (67K)
dll16\zlib16.lib : The 16 bits import library for the DLL of ZLib 1.13 (6K)
dll32\zlib.dll     :    The 32 bits DLL of ZLib 1.13
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Greets Mr. Loock:

Oooch..  This isn't quite easy enough.

No I just want something that maybe you click mouse
to a line for beginning of MIDI and click mouse
to a line for ending of MIDI seen as maybe a colored
line on screen and plays it with repeat so I can
get it right.  If MIDI is not doing any really
strange stuff I might be able to truncate MIDI data
myself with a program I can write but I don't know
where the actual MIDI music begins cause I don't wanna
mess up the beginning data stuff.

Isn't there like a good DOS or Win98 quick MIDI
editor that can snip out a range and save it ?

You mentioned volume again.  Was there any good
solution to effect MIDI currently being played thru
MCI$ to change the volume ?

Sincerely,
David W.

--- Engelbert van Loock <Engelbert.v@n.Loock.com>
wrote:
> Hi David,
> 
> > I've got a little over 700 <2k .MDZ files now and
> > want to edit them cause they start to fade out
> getting
> > QUIETER Quieter quieter q.u.i.e.t.e.r all in the
> end
> > which is great to listen to but not if you wanna
> > REPEAT it like for game use sooooo I don't really
> need
> > like a real MIDI editor but one that can snip off
> > the trailing fadeout stuff and be real accurate so
> > cause I can manually myself link it correct and
> > right to play smooth from end alla way back to
> > beginning with no hiccups or fadeouts may mean I
> > can also >Snip!< some from beginning too for slow
> > startup which is not won't going to sound right !
> 
> This requests a midi sequenzer software. I prefer
> the program Logic by
> Emagic. Cubase or Cakewalk are good either. There
> was a free version of
> Micro Logic Fun coming with a magazine's cd in
> Germany. Maybe you have
> got a similar offer. The share- and freeware market
> of this segment I
> never needed to know, so I don't.
> 
> You could try to extract the fading responsible data
> that are ctrl $11
> (expression - what is recommended) or ctrl $07
> (volume - to be used for
> the basic mix, but sometimes for the volume
> variations during the song
> too). The attached listing extracts the volume data
> and can easily be
> changed to delete expression data.
> 
> A further problem will be the seam at the end and
> the restart. There is
> always a short moment of rest with no defined
> duration. That means: you
> can cut a few ticks (with a sequenzer) for a perfect
> timing on one
> system - on another one it will be messed up. A
> solution for that is
> DirectX (Greetings to John...). DX7 (I do not know
> about prior versions)
> supports so called segments and motives that can be
> looped and added
> lib.
> 
> Engelbert

> ATTACHMENT part 2
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi Tom.

Well you know me I like PKZIP.
If you have a .DLL that can ZIP up files and can do
it pretty easily like the MyUnzipper I wrote please
let me know !

If it entails more then 100 lines of code -- ahhm..
Nemmind.  :)

Well I don't see anyone has toppled over themselves
in their haste to tell me how well Parallax #2 runs
so I tried it on Dad's computer.  Runs =VERY= well !
I was worried for a bit it would run too slow but that
worry has been put to ease sooooo now I can add
light effects and raytrace FX next as well as
interactive sprites.  Yah prolly won't see all this
except in Fruity Jamm.  Cherry Miya I'm coming for
you!
:)

Sincerely,
David W.

--- Tom Record
<tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> 
> Anybody interested?
> 
> dll16\zlib16.dll   :    The 16 bits DLL of ZLib 1.13
> (67K)
> dll16\zlib16.lib : The 16 bits import library for
> the DLL of ZLib 1.13 (6K)
> dll32\zlib.dll     :    The 32 bits DLL of ZLib 1.13
> dll32\zlib.lib : The 32 bits import library for the
> DLL of ZLib 1.13
> static32\zlibstat.lib : The 32 bits statis library
> of zLib 1.13 for 
> Visual C++
> dll32\zlib_bor.lib : The 32 bits import library for
> the DLL of ZLib 
> 1.13 for Borland C++
> dll32axp\zlib.dll  : The 32 bits DLL of ZLib 1.13
> for WinNT on Dec 
> Alpha
> dll32axp\zlib.lib  : The 32 bits import library for
> the DLL of ZLib 
> 1.13 for WinNT on Dec Alpha
> sta32axp\zlibstat.lib : The 32 bits statis library
> of zLib 1.13 for 
> Visual C++ for WinNT on Dec Alpha
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List Member "Russell Hayward" <russ@softhome.net> wrote:
Hi,

>>>>>>
under win nt i become an error on this part:

DLL #1,"kernel"
DECL LONG FindFirstFile(L,L)
DECL BOOL FindNextFile(L,L)
DECL BOOL FindClose(L)
ENDDLL

what can i do? is there an alternativ routine to read all the files better
all files although the files in the subdirectorys?
i hope you can help me.
<<<<<

The only way to do this is to use thunking, I have a short explanation of
the technique on my web site:

http://www.baphead.freeserve.co.uk/expert.html

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Greets Gang:

Okay I found a fairly good one.
It's not perfect and REQUIRES the use of the mouse
to highlight regions.  Grmmbll...  But works pretty
good called Midi Sculptor.  I found it as well as
a collection of other good MIDI utilities at
http://www.filelibrary.com

You register by giving Email yah well we know SPAM
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
I've lost my notes, sorry.  Error 5 says "SINGLE() overflow".  I've never
been able
to determine just what I've done wrong to get this error & have nothing that
gives
a coherent explanation.

I have a 16-image run that gets that error just after the 14th is displayed.
I do
release & clear the images, so it isn't a memory problem.  The REAL problem
is that
I also have 15 or 20 *other* runs that do NOT hit this error & I can't see
any big
differences in the source.  Differences usually are in the timing, # of
images, etc.

Would someone please explain "SINGLE() overflow" in plain, simple English?
Thanks.
<G>
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
David
I haven't played w/ the zip thing yet... two files are 16-bit... a *.dll & a
*.lib.
The lib can't possibly be the *.dll in disguise - too small.  I suspect calling
either will require far less than 100 lines.  Will send you the pkg direct
if you
wanna play.
TomR.



At 05:40 PM 27/06/00 -0700, you wrote:
>List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Hi Tom.
>
>Well you know me I like PKZIP.
>If you have a .DLL that can ZIP up files and can do
>it pretty easily like the MyUnzipper I wrote please
>let me know !
>
>If it entails more then 100 lines of code -- ahhm..
>Nemmind.  :)
>
>Well I don't see anyone has toppled over themselves
>in their haste to tell me how well Parallax #2 runs
>so I tried it on Dad's computer.  Runs =VERY= well !
>I was worried for a bit it would run too slow but that
>worry has been put to ease sooooo now I can add
>light effects and raytrace FX next as well as
>interactive sprites.  Yah prolly won't see all this
>except in Fruity Jamm.  Cherry Miya I'm coming for
>you!
>:)
>
>Sincerely,
>David W.
>
>--- Tom Record
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>> List Member Tom Record
>> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Anybody interested?
>> 
>> dll16\zlib16.dll   :    The 16 bits DLL of ZLib 1.13
>> (67K)
>> dll16\zlib16.lib : The 16 bits import library for
>> the DLL of ZLib 1.13 (6K)
>> dll32\zlib.dll     :    The 32 bits DLL of ZLib 1.13
>> dll32\zlib.lib : The 32 bits import library for the
>> DLL of ZLib 1.13
>> static32\zlibstat.lib : The 32 bits statis library
>> of zLib 1.13 for 
>> Visual C++
>> dll32\zlib_bor.lib : The 32 bits import library for
>> the DLL of ZLib 
>> 1.13 for Borland C++
>> dll32axp\zlib.dll  : The 32 bits DLL of ZLib 1.13
>> for WinNT on Dec 
>> Alpha
>> dll32axp\zlib.lib  : The 32 bits import library for
>> the DLL of ZLib 
>> 1.13 for WinNT on Dec Alpha
>> sta32axp\zlibstat.lib : The 32 bits statis library
>> of zLib 1.13 for 
>> Visual C++ for WinNT on Dec Alpha
>> 
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
That routine & modules Roland has for playing MP3 doesn't work at all here.
Does
anybody have any experience with it yet?

For me, running his routine gives just a flash, then shuts down.  Does this even
if I REM the IF NOT EXIST() line.

Ideas?

I'd like to find a way to play the soundtracks from *.mpg.  Looks like I
have to 
find a way to call on MediaPlayer or something else I have on here.  Don't want
anything popping up onscreen, tho.

<G>
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List Member Thomas Gonschor <thomas.gonschor@vph-bensberg.de> wrote:
Hi Tom!

>dll16\zlib16.dll   :    The 16 bits DLL of ZLib 1.13 (67K)
>dll16\zlib16.lib : The 16 bits import library for the DLL of ZLib
>1.13 (6K)
>dll32\zlib.dll     :    The 32 bits DLL of ZLib 1.13
>dll32\zlib.lib : The 32 bits import library for the DLL of ZLib 1.13

Is there a GFA-Listing for using these DLL's in my own programs? Can
I zip and unzip files with this DLL's?

Kind regards
Yours

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List Member S.Baunack@ifw-dresden.de wrote:
	The Routine 32open.gfw is a great one. It returns long filenames
under NT.
	But how can I access the files? My problems are:

	1) The complete file name contains a long folder name like:
	    filename$=3D"c:\long_directory\long_filename.txt"
	If I want to go to this path this way

	  a% =3D RINSTR(filename$,"\")
	  path$ =3D LEFT$(filename$,a% - 1)
	  CHDRIVE LEFT$(path$,1)
	  CHDIR path$

	an error occurs, because chdir expects an short name like
c:\long_d~1
	How can I get the 8.3 eqivalent to c:\long_directory=20
	(The simple way to create a string c:\long_d~1 won't work if
there more paths c:\long_d~*)

	or must I use 32bit functions?

	2) How to manage the case when file or path names contain
spaces?


	Thanks a lot

	Stefan Baunack



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>=20
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> Hi,
>=20
> >>>>>>
> under win nt i become an error on this part:
>=20
> DLL #1,"kernel"
> DECL LONG FindFirstFile(L,L)
> DECL BOOL FindNextFile(L,L)
> DECL BOOL FindClose(L)
> ENDDLL
>=20
> what can i do? is there an alternativ routine to read all the files
> better
> all files although the files in the subdirectorys?
> i hope you can help me.
> <<<<<
>=20
> The only way to do this is to use thunking, I have a short =
explanation
> of
> the technique on my web site:
>=20
> http://www.baphead.freeserve.co.uk/expert.html
>=20
> HTH,
> Russell Hayward
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List Member S.Baunack@ifw-dresden.de wrote:
	The Routine 32open.gfw is a great one. It returns long filenames
under NT.
	But how can I access the files? My problems are:

	1) The complete file name contains a long folder name like:
	    filename$=3D"c:\long_directory\long_filename.txt"
	If I want to go to this path this way

	  a% =3D RINSTR(filename$,"\")
	  path$ =3D LEFT$(filename$,a% - 1)
	  CHDRIVE LEFT$(path$,1)
	  CHDIR path$

	an error occurs, because chdir expects an short name like
c:\long_d~1
	How can I get the 8.3 eqivalent to c:\long_directory=20
	(The simple way to create a string c:\long_d~1 won't work if
there more paths c:\long_d~*)

	or must I use 32bit functions?

	2) How to manage the case when file or path names contain
spaces?


	Thanks a lot

	Stefan Baunack



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> Gesendet am:	Mittwoch, 28. Juni 2000 03:38
> An:	gfabasic@gfa.net
> Betreff:	Re: [gfabasic] probs with gfa and win NT
>=20
> List Member "Russell Hayward" <russ@softhome.net> wrote:
> Hi,
>=20
> >>>>>>
> under win nt i become an error on this part:
>=20
> DLL #1,"kernel"
> DECL LONG FindFirstFile(L,L)
> DECL BOOL FindNextFile(L,L)
> DECL BOOL FindClose(L)
> ENDDLL
>=20
> what can i do? is there an alternativ routine to read all the files
> better
> all files although the files in the subdirectorys?
> i hope you can help me.
> <<<<<
>=20
> The only way to do this is to use thunking, I have a short =
explanation
> of
> the technique on my web site:
>=20
> http://www.baphead.freeserve.co.uk/expert.html
>=20
> HTH,
> Russell Hayward
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Huum..

Well..  Maybe I can trim it down like the last
one just find what makes that old PkZip tick and
get that direct !  With PkZip .DLL I can finalize
APPEND and start to make compressed data files with
Scenario stage 1.

Sincerely,
David W.

--- Tom Record
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> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> David
> I haven't played w/ the zip thing yet... two files
> are 16-bit... a *.dll & a
> *.lib.
> The lib can't possibly be the *.dll in disguise -
> too small.  I suspect calling
> either will require far less than 100 lines.  Will
> send you the pkg direct
> if you
> wanna play.
> TomR.
> 
> 
> 
> At 05:40 PM 27/06/00 -0700, you wrote:
> >List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >Hi Tom.
> >
> >Well you know me I like PKZIP.
> >If you have a .DLL that can ZIP up files and can do
> >it pretty easily like the MyUnzipper I wrote please
> >let me know !
> >
> >If it entails more then 100 lines of code -- ahhm..
> >Nemmind.  :)
> >
> >Well I don't see anyone has toppled over themselves
> >in their haste to tell me how well Parallax #2 runs
> >so I tried it on Dad's computer.  Runs =VERY= well
> !
> >I was worried for a bit it would run too slow but
> that
> >worry has been put to ease sooooo now I can add
> >light effects and raytrace FX next as well as
> >interactive sprites.  Yah prolly won't see all this
> >except in Fruity Jamm.  Cherry Miya I'm coming for
> >you!
> >:)
> >
> >Sincerely,
> >David W.
> >
> >--- Tom Record
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> >> List Member Tom Record
> >> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net>
> wrote:
> >> 
> >> Anybody interested?
> >> 
> >> dll16\zlib16.dll   :    The 16 bits DLL of ZLib
> 1.13
> >> (67K)
> >> dll16\zlib16.lib : The 16 bits import library for
> >> the DLL of ZLib 1.13 (6K)
> >> dll32\zlib.dll     :    The 32 bits DLL of ZLib
> 1.13
> >> dll32\zlib.lib : The 32 bits import library for
> the
> >> DLL of ZLib 1.13
> >> static32\zlibstat.lib : The 32 bits statis
> library
> >> of zLib 1.13 for 
> >> Visual C++
> >> dll32\zlib_bor.lib : The 32 bits import library
> for
> >> the DLL of ZLib 
> >> 1.13 for Borland C++
> >> dll32axp\zlib.dll  : The 32 bits DLL of ZLib 1.13
> >> for WinNT on Dec 
> >> Alpha
> >> dll32axp\zlib.lib  : The 32 bits import library
> for
> >> the DLL of ZLib 
> >> 1.13 for WinNT on Dec Alpha
> >> sta32axp\zlibstat.lib : The 32 bits statis
> library
> >> of zLib 1.13 for 
> >> Visual C++ for WinNT on Dec Alpha
> >> 
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hey Peter !

What's the scoop on Windows 2000 ?
How is it different from Win98 and/or did they
go a-head and require a computer ID # for its
installation as originally planned ?

Inquiring Minds Want To Know !  :)

Sincerely,
David W.

--- Micha=B3_Sejfried <42810730@pro.onet.pl> wrote:
> Hi to All
>=20
> Does anyone know why I can't open GFW files from my
> desktop under WINDOWS 2000?
>=20
> Best Regards
> Peter
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Hey, Guys...
Look at the bottom 2 lines from my system.ini.  I don't see long filenames
unless
I'm running a 32-bit appl.  FileMgr says 8.3, ONLY.  GFA-W(16) says 8.3,=
 too.  I
haven't added the patch or whatever that is that allows long filenames in=
 it.

[boot]
system.drv=3Dsystem.drv
drivers=3Dmmsystem.dll
user.exe=3Duser.exe
gdi.exe=3Dgdi.exe
sound.drv=3Dmmsound.drv
dibeng.drv=3Ddibeng.dll
comm.drv=3Dcomm.drv
; shell=3Dexplorer.exe
shell=3DProgman.exe

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At 02:30 PM 28/06/00 +0200, you wrote:
>List Member S.Baunack@ifw-dresden.de wrote:
>	The Routine 32open.gfw is a great one. It returns long filenames
>under NT.
>	But how can I access the files? My problems are:
>
>	1) The complete file name contains a long folder name like:
>	    filename$=3D"c:\long_directory\long_filename.txt"
>	If I want to go to this path this way
>
>	  a% =3D RINSTR(filename$,"\")
>	  path$ =3D LEFT$(filename$,a% - 1)
>	  CHDRIVE LEFT$(path$,1)
>	  CHDIR path$
>
>	an error occurs, because chdir expects an short name like
>c:\long_d~1
>	How can I get the 8.3 eqivalent to c:\long_directory=20
>	(The simple way to create a string c:\long_d~1 won't work if
>there more paths c:\long_d~*)
>
>	or must I use 32bit functions?
>
>	2) How to manage the case when file or path names contain
>spaces?
>
>
>	Thanks a lot
>
>	Stefan Baunack
>
>
>
>> -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----
>> Von:	Russell Hayward [SMTP:russ@softhome.net]
>> Gesendet am:	Mittwoch, 28. Juni 2000 03:38
>> An:	gfabasic@gfa.net
>> Betreff:	Re: [gfabasic] probs with gfa and win NT
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>> List Member "Russell Hayward" <russ@softhome.net> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>=20
>> >>>>>>
>> under win nt i become an error on this part:
>>=20
>> DLL #1,"kernel"
>> DECL LONG FindFirstFile(L,L)
>> DECL BOOL FindNextFile(L,L)
>> DECL BOOL FindClose(L)
>> ENDDLL
>>=20
>> what can i do? is there an alternativ routine to read all the files
>> better
>> all files although the files in the subdirectorys?
>> i hope you can help me.
>> <<<<<
>>=20
>> The only way to do this is to use thunking, I have a short explanation
>> of
>> the technique on my web site:
>>=20
>> http://www.baphead.freeserve.co.uk/expert.html
>>=20
>> HTH,
>> Russell Hayward
>> --
>> Get Paid!: http://www.get-paid.co.uk/
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Hey, Thomas
For the moment, NO - no GFA listing.  They are provided in "C" & possibly VB.
I *think* I owe David an apology for not sending him the files from another
*.zip that are required to set things up.  I have 8 or 10 *.zips on the subject
& I forgot to dig for him.  If you want to give it a try, I'll get it all
together
& send to you directly & the other pieces to David.

Zlib is the foundation of the new *.png format that replaces *.gif.
<G>
TomR.


At 12:12 PM 28/06/00 +0100, you wrote:
>List Member Thomas Gonschor <thomas.gonschor@vph-bensberg.de> wrote:
>Hi Tom!
>
>>dll16\zlib16.dll   :    The 16 bits DLL of ZLib 1.13 (67K)
>>dll16\zlib16.lib : The 16 bits import library for the DLL of ZLib
>>1.13 (6K)
>>dll32\zlib.dll     :    The 32 bits DLL of ZLib 1.13
>>dll32\zlib.lib : The 32 bits import library for the DLL of ZLib 1.13
>
>Is there a GFA-Listing for using these DLL's in my own programs? Can
>I zip and unzip files with this DLL's?
>
>Kind regards
>Yours
>
>Thomas
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List Member "Michal Sejfried" <42810730@pro.onet.pl> wrote:
Hi David!

It's funny question?

I bought Windows 2000 Professional in last week (on Friday) but I don't
finish installation of all programs yet. Windows 2000 is different than
their young brother Windows 98. I bought upgrade version, but I used full
installation. The Setup is different too. Beautiful blue screens step by
step (all without graphic until first restart of computer). They require
only Windows installation code - in thesame format like in windows 98 -
xxxxx-xxxxx-xxxxx-xxxxx-xxxxx. After installation Windows is in C:\WINNT\
directory. The rest of directories is in the another places too. e.g.:
Desktop is in:
C:\Documents and Settings\ "name of user" \ Desktop.
Is one problem: the programs which works good in Windows 95/98 doesn't wo=
rk
in Windows 2000 or works badly. I'm learning this new system. If you'll k=
now
something more about 2000 send e-mail to mailing list.

Best Regards
Peter



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> List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hey Peter !
>
> What's the scoop on Windows 2000 ?
> How is it different from Win98 and/or did they
> go a-head and require a computer ID # for its
> installation as originally planned ?
>
> Inquiring Minds Want To Know !  :)
>
> Sincerely,
> David W.
>
> --- Micha=B3_Sejfried <42810730@pro.onet.pl> wrote:
> > Hi to All
> >
> > Does anyone know why I can't open GFW files from my
> > desktop under WINDOWS 2000?
> >
> > Best Regards
> > Peter
> >
> > 42810730@pro.onet.pl
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List Member "Russell Hayward" <russ@softhome.net> wrote:
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Hi Stefan,

> The Routine 32open.gfw is a great one. It returns long filenames
> under NT.

Glad it's useful.

> But how can I access the files? My problems are:
>
> 1) The complete file name contains a long folder name like:
>     filename$="c:\long_directory\long_filename.txt"
> If I want to go to this path this way
>
>   a% = RINSTR(filename$,"\")
>   path$ = LEFT$(filename$,a% - 1)
>   CHDRIVE LEFT$(path$,1)
>   CHDIR path$
>
> an error occurs, because chdir expects an short name like
> c:\long_d~1
> How can I get the 8.3 eqivalent to c:\long_directory
> (The simple way to create a string c:\long_d~1 won't work if
> there more paths c:\long_d~*)
>
> or must I use 32bit functions?

Yes, there is a very handy function in kernel32.dll that converts long names
to short ones. I've attached an example.

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Have the player *.dll (249K), an ActiveX *.dll (17.5K) & the MP3 encoder *.exe
from Xaudio if interested.  The whole SDK is 717K & FREE.  Shareware/Commercial
requires that you sign a license agreement.  Free use for private & development
without signing a license agreement.

mailto:licensing@xaudio.com  questions

http://www.mp3rulz.com/download.html  get the files

There are a ton of language files to select from.  Comes w/ English & German.

<G>
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
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List Member Thomas Gonschor <thomas.gonschor@vph-bensberg.de> wrote:
Hi Tom!

>For the moment, NO - no GFA listing.  They are provided in "C" &
>possibly VB.

I know. I've tried to make them run, but I had no sucess. :-(
If anyone has got a listing for these DLL it would be very helpful
for me if he can send me the source.

Kind regards
Yours

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List Member "onkel.helmut" <onkel.helmut@online-club.de> wrote:
Hi all,

thanks for your answers.
my problem is: how can i use the Routine 32open.gfw so that i load all files
in a directory with subdirectorys?
i need only the name! (as a string)  of the dir, path and the files


thanks
OH


> Hi Stefan,
>
> > The Routine 32open.gfw is a great one. It returns long filenames
> > under NT.
>
> Glad it's useful.
>
> > But how can I access the files? My problems are:
> >
> > 1) The complete file name contains a long folder name like:
> >     filename$="c:\long_directory\long_filename.txt"
> > If I want to go to this path this way
> >
> >   a% = RINSTR(filename$,"\")
> >   path$ = LEFT$(filename$,a% - 1)
> >   CHDRIVE LEFT$(path$,1)
> >   CHDIR path$
> >
> > an error occurs, because chdir expects an short name like
> > c:\long_d~1
> > How can I get the 8.3 eqivalent to c:\long_directory
> > (The simple way to create a string c:\long_d~1 won't work if
> > there more paths c:\long_d~*)
> >
> > or must I use 32bit functions?
>
> Yes, there is a very handy function in kernel32.dll that converts long
names
> to short ones. I've attached an example.
>
> HTH,
> Russell Hayward
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Greets Tom:

The zip stuff you sent me has no working examples
or instructions on its commands so I don't know how
it works..

On another note, I realized I spent a long time
working on a pull-down menu and stuff and I really
don't even like things like that so for Fruity Jamm
it will not be in there but full-screen and screen
with sleeve is OK !  You won't believe how much
faster that paralax2 demo runs without maintenance
on those virtual pages for pull-down menus !

Fruity Jamm is coming along well !
+ 16 levels
+ Load/save game
+ RPG-style gameplay with plot-twists
+ *Gifts* and *presents* if you play really well
+ background music
+ sound fx cuuuuute !
+ 100% flicker free + adding my new raytrace
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* The last one is what made me decide to pull out
  the pull-down menus cause it runs too slow ALL
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The game is still underway !

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> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Hey, Thomas
> For the moment, NO - no GFA listing.  They are
> provided in "C" & possibly VB.
> I *think* I owe David an apology for not sending him
> the files from another
> *.zip that are required to set things up.  I have 8
> or 10 *.zips on the subject
> & I forgot to dig for him.  If you want to give it a
> try, I'll get it all
> together
> & send to you directly & the other pieces to David.
> 
> Zlib is the foundation of the new *.png format that
> replaces *.gif.
> <G>
> TomR.
> 
> 
> At 12:12 PM 28/06/00 +0100, you wrote:
> >List Member Thomas Gonschor
> <thomas.gonschor@vph-bensberg.de> wrote:
> >Hi Tom!
> >
> >>dll16\zlib16.dll   :    The 16 bits DLL of ZLib
> 1.13 (67K)
> >>dll16\zlib16.lib : The 16 bits import library for
> the DLL of ZLib
> >>1.13 (6K)
> >>dll32\zlib.dll     :    The 32 bits DLL of ZLib
> 1.13
> >>dll32\zlib.lib : The 32 bits import library for
> the DLL of ZLib 1.13
> >
> >Is there a GFA-Listing for using these DLL's in my
> own programs? Can
> >I zip and unzip files with this DLL's?
> >
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Hi,

> thanks for your answers.
> my problem is: how can i use the Routine 32open.gfw so that i load all
files
> in a directory with subdirectorys?
> i need only the name! (as a string)  of the dir, path and the files

If I get what you mean correctly you want to get the short file names of
every file in a directory, including any in sub-directories. The easiest to
do that is to use the GFA functions FSFIRST and FSNEXT, I've attached a
small example.

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List Member "OH" <oh@ohtech.de> wrote:
Hi,

no not the short name! i must have the long name (path and file). Thats my
problem.
but i dont know the alternative of:

FSFIRST and FSNEXT

tx
oh


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>
> Hi,
>
> > thanks for your answers.
> > my problem is: how can i use the Routine 32open.gfw so that i load all
> files
> > in a directory with subdirectorys?
> > i need only the name! (as a string)  of the dir, path and the files
>
> If I get what you mean correctly you want to get the short file names of
> every file in a directory, including any in sub-directories. The easiest
to
> do that is to use the GFA functions FSFIRST and FSNEXT, I've attached a
> small example.
>
> HTH,
> Russell Hayward
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List Member "John Findlay" <John.Findlay@Byte-it.net> wrote:
> List Member "OH" <oh@ohtech.de> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> no not the short name! i must have the long name (path and file). Thats my
> problem.
> but i dont know the alternative of:

Perhaps Russell will do one with long file names, which will be very nice.
:-)

ListBox&=CreateWindowEx(512,"ListBox",

He might tell you what the '512' is in CreateWindowEx() as well!

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Hi,

> no not the short name! i must have the long name (path and file). Thats my
> problem.
> but i dont know the alternative of:
>
> FSFIRST and FSNEXT

Sorry, I got a bit confused. I think I have covered all the angles with the
example I've attached this time, it puts the long file name (LFN) in the top
listbox and the SFN in the bottom. I've even put in the meaning of 512!

HTH,
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Interesting development!  Spent the night looking for a workable set of calls
to xaudio.dll so I can use it to play *.mp3 soundtracks.  So far, all I can find
are others' products using the *.dll but w/ NO calls given.  Xaudio doesn't
supply!

The damned thing is a quarter-meg & is free, but they never let you near a
download
file except for all other OSs.

I'm about ready to dump the idea.

At 2 oclock this morning, I ran into a download for Windows Media SDK, so I
got it.
Sheesh!  Finished the download at 5:14 this morning!  Ran the *.exe & got a
mess of
files, but nothing workable until an installer is run (I guess!).
However... If I
run any *.asf or *.asx by double-clicking it, mplayer2.exe runs.  I've never
done
a conscience install of this!  In the windows dir, there is the normal
v4.095 copy,
so I had to hunt because the new one is v6 something & looks totally
different! It
was installed in a new Prog~1 subdir, window~1.  Oh, well, hell!  *It*
throws a GUI
onto the screen, too, so it's not useable for my purpose either.  Running a
file in 
the new version overwrites something in the registry & causes the std
version to balk.

What to do?  Shout?  Or... go blind?

http://software.cybertropix.com/ 

If anybody is interested.
<G>
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From: David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com>
Subject: [gfabasic] Fireworks for Everyone !
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
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Hi Ho !  I'd forgotten 4th of July is so sooner then
tomorrow a few days now !

Here is real quick fireworks program cause I sayed
I would write one I just didn't know when the 4th
was and so soon okay !
[enclosed]

Hold down [SHIFT] key to run it full blast.
Enjoy !  :)

Sincerely,
David W.

Fruity Jam MAY not be done by 4th cause I scribbling
in my head about scripts I got it working yes right
now but every-thing runs all at once Cherry walks on
screen as menu appears as critters as screen fades
in and all too complex background running stuff gonna
make it more sequential.

--- Tom Record
<tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Interesting development!  Spent the night looking
> for a workable set of calls
> to xaudio.dll so I can use it to play *.mp3
> soundtracks.  So far, all I can find
> are others' products using the *.dll but w/ NO calls
> given.  Xaudio doesn't
> supply!
> 
> The damned thing is a quarter-meg & is free, but
> they never let you near a
> download
> file except for all other OSs.
> 
> I'm about ready to dump the idea.
> 
> At 2 oclock this morning, I ran into a download for
> Windows Media SDK, so I
> got it.
> Sheesh!  Finished the download at 5:14 this morning!
>  Ran the *.exe & got a
> mess of
> files, but nothing workable until an installer is
> run (I guess!).
> However... If I
> run any *.asf or *.asx by double-clicking it,
> mplayer2.exe runs.  I've never
> done
> a conscience install of this!  In the windows dir,
> there is the normal
> v4.095 copy,
> so I had to hunt because the new one is v6 something
> & looks totally
> different! It
> was installed in a new Prog~1 subdir, window~1.  Oh,
> well, hell!  *It*
> throws a GUI
> onto the screen, too, so it's not useable for my
> purpose either.  Running a
> file in 
> the new version overwrites something in the registry
> & causes the std
> version to balk.
> 
> What to do?  Shout?  Or... go blind?
> 
> http://software.cybertropix.com/ 
> 
> If anybody is interested.
> <G>
> TomR.
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From: David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com>
Subject: [gfabasic] My Mistake Update !
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
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So Sorry !!

I didn't check Pentium Overlord setting cause that's
too slow on my computer.  Didn't make array big
enough all 3 run fine now (I checked really!)
[enclosed]

Ohh and if you want the source it's Postcardware
guys !  It's a 100 lines code exactly so it's
not too hard to figure out.  :)

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Don't bother!  It is incomplete & cannot be properly installed.

I installed it using the Win95 software installer so it could later be removed.
The installer did NOT log it, so couldn't be used to remove it.

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List Member "Mike Fooks" <Mick.Fooks@btinternet.com> wrote:
I do hope Dale's file transfer went smoothly, Iearnt long ago to keep all my
data on a totally seperate Hard Disk, makes emergency transfer to another PC
relatively simple as you only have to rebuild the aplications.

Mike.
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Yah well HE don't know that !
Let him play with it a bit and if he solves it well
you just don't tell him later it can't be done.  :)

He said he knows where he seen it and getting the
rest of it.  Maybe... !  :)

Sincerely,
David W.

--- Tom Record
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> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Don't bother!  It is incomplete & cannot be properly
> installed.
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Okay I KNEW I could do better than that stuff.

Fireworks v0.2
WHAT'S NEW ??
+ Round explosions (yayaya!)

+ Gravity more correct
  Let Dad see it and he said not heavy enough so
  gravity double now looks better.

+ Color explosions computed in a pinwheel !
  Multi-colored explosions correct to colors

Getchur copy on my homepage all updated to reflect
this and Paralax2 in case ya missed it.

That's all from here.
Going back to Cherry Miya.
(She misses me I guess??)  :)

Sincerely,
David W.
http://www.geocities.com/dw817

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> List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> He said he knows where he seen it and getting the
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List Member "onkel.helmut" <onkel.helmut@online-club.de> wrote:
Hi Russell,

i love you :-)))
many many thanks for your help. it works great!
i hope i can revanche me.
say me what you need...

tx
oh

>
> Hi,
>
> > no not the short name! i must have the long name (path and file). Thats
my
> > problem.
> > but i dont know the alternative of:
> >
> > FSFIRST and FSNEXT
>
> Sorry, I got a bit confused. I think I have covered all the angles with
the
> example I've attached this time, it puts the long file name (LFN) in the
top
> listbox and the SFN in the bottom. I've even put in the meaning of 512!
>
> HTH,
> Russell Hayward
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List Member "John Findlay" <John.Findlay@Byte-it.net> wrote:

Thanks to those that responded privately to my inquiry about Dale.

I am concerned!

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Haven't heard from Dale yet.  I don't like tape backups, tho.  I use ZIP100s
for all bulk storage.  You can easily zip a ton of things & keep those *.zips
on ZIP100s to the tune of 95M/disk, or you can use *.cab & squeexe'em down a 
little bit more.  Cabarc.exe handles it both directions.  I got started w/
ZIP100s back when they first came out & have one on each PC.

There are newer drives & disks out that hold 250M & more.  They're at least
as cheap as tape & far more reliable.

You're right tho - a 5 to 10 Gb HD would sure be easy & today, not too costly.
<G>
TomR.



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>List Member "Mike Fooks" <Mick.Fooks@btinternet.com> wrote:
>I do hope Dale's file transfer went smoothly, Iearnt long ago to keep all my
>data on a totally seperate Hard Disk, makes emergency transfer to another PC
>relatively simple as you only have to rebuild the aplications.
>
>Mike.
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Well no-one has exactly bowled me over in their
haste to thank me for the fireworks but I'm gonna
post this anyways.  :)

Tweaked a bit of stuff last nite:

WHAT'S NEW for FIREWORKS v0.3 ??
+ Color Morphing
+ Smart Scatter

That's all.  Putting the Parallax in Fruity Jam
and the ray-trace exploder.

Sincerely,
David W.
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Am fast learning that nobody gives a damn about supporting "free" products.
I am licensed to sell products using xaudio.dll - an MP3 decoder.  I've had 
it nearly a week now & STILL have no calls for it!

I have already learned that many don't give a damn about supporting "paid-for"
products.

Ok, screw'em!  I can now split audio & video from *.mpg.  Both, video & audio 
are in the form of *.mpg, but the audio has an internal ID of MP3.

Can now rip images from *.mpg in the form of 8-bit *.dib.  These I can edit &
re-assemble into a GFA-W(16) screensaver.  When the image quality is good
enough,
I can even increase the display size.

Can also make *.mpg without resorting to "paid-for" software, but... get this...
I have to start with *.tga images!  Instead of *.tga, I can use *.ppm.  Aw,
Jeeze!
Using "paid-for" software, I can go to *.mpg from *.bmp.  Sheesh!  

What I am doing is accomplished w/ small DOS *.exes called from my GFA-W(16)
appl.

Ok... I've tried playing *.mpg & *.mp3 by calling up mplayer.exe,
mplayer2.exe, &
rundll32.exe from my GFA-W(16) appl.  NOT ON YOUR LIFE!  All 3 come onscreen w/
the flic or soundtrack loaded, but none of them play it.  Interaction is
necessary,
but I have yet to uncover how to be able to interact w/ them because they
usually
go behind whatever else is onscreen.  Running them w/o a window is useless,
also.

So far, all MP3 players have a GUI that requires interaction!

I've downloaded many appls that would be helpful, but have learned that a P-100
w/ 24M of RAM is totally insufficient!  A minimum of 133Mhz & 32M of RAM are 
required!  How the hell can they do it in DOS???

Should anybody be interested in generating a Windows MP3 player, I have what is
supposed to be an extremely easy to use application.  It costs $45US to get all
functions & benefits w/o the GUI bearing an "unregistered version" lable on it.

My computer is insufficient to run the appl(s) necessary to convert *.mp3 to
*.wav
(or vice versa), & there doesn't seem to be an easy or inexpensive way to play
the soundtrack salvaged from the *.mpg.

I'm coming to the end of this road... it's too bumpy & rocky!  So... who cares?
TomR.

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Ya know... a CD read/write now costs only 300 $US & disks are about a dollar
each.
That's 650M - an awfull lot of *.zipped files!
TomR.

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi Tom:

--- Tom Record
<tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Am fast learning that nobody gives a damn about
> supporting "free" products.
> I am licensed to sell products using xaudio.dll - an
> MP3 decoder.  I've had 
> it nearly a week now & STILL have no calls for it!

* I gotta long article I written on the evils of
  Shareware and the virtues of Freeware.  It talks
  about this.  Who would want to pay for software that
  MAY not be 100% correct ?  I sure wouldn't.  Now if
  it was Freeware or something really no loss penalty
  in registering then that would be OKAY.  I've seen
  some folks want as much as $50 for Shareware !

* Yah right like I'm gonna pay that.  Noooo I do what
  every other red-blooded webby does and bring up my
  fav search engines to find a Freeware version writ
  by someone else and there ALWAYS is.  :)
> 
> I have already learned that many don't give a damn
> about supporting "paid-for"
> products.
> 
> Ok, screw'em!  I can now split audio & video from
> *.mpg.  Both, video & audio 
> are in the form of *.mpg, but the audio has an
> internal ID of MP3.
> 
> Can now rip images from *.mpg in the form of 8-bit
> *.dib.  These I can edit &
> re-assemble into a GFA-W(16) screensaver.  When the
> image quality is good
> enough,
> I can even increase the display size.
> 
> Can also make *.mpg without resorting to "paid-for"
> software, but... get this...
> I have to start with *.tga images!  Instead of
> *.tga, I can use *.ppm.  Aw,
> Jeeze!
> Using "paid-for" software, I can go to *.mpg from
> *.bmp.  Sheesh!  
> 
> What I am doing is accomplished w/ small DOS *.exes
> called from my GFA-W(16)
> appl.

* Tom how are you doing a DOSSHELL ?  I'd be curious
to
  know if there's a better way then I'm doing it ?
> 
> Ok... I've tried playing *.mpg & *.mp3 by calling up
> mplayer.exe,
> mplayer2.exe, &
> rundll32.exe from my GFA-W(16) appl.  NOT ON YOUR
> LIFE!  All 3 come onscreen w/
> the flic or soundtrack loaded, but none of them play
> it.  Interaction is
> necessary,
> but I have yet to uncover how to be able to interact
> w/ them because they
> usually
> go behind whatever else is onscreen.  Running them
> w/o a window is useless,
> also.
> 
> So far, all MP3 players have a GUI that requires
> interaction!

* Tom MP3 is a pretty old format now.  You should
  be able to find an easy player for it.
  Isn't there a .DLL folks been using in GFA
  all ready ?
> 
> I've downloaded many appls that would be helpful,
> but have learned that a P-100
> w/ 24M of RAM is totally insufficient!  A minimum of
> 133Mhz & 32M of RAM are 
> required!  How the hell can they do it in DOS???
> 
> Should anybody be interested in generating a Windows
> MP3 player, I have what is
> supposed to be an extremely easy to use application.
>  It costs $45US to get all
> functions & benefits w/o the GUI bearing an
> "unregistered version" lable on it.
> 
> My computer is insufficient to run the appl(s)
> necessary to convert *.mp3 to
> *.wav
> (or vice versa), & there doesn't seem to be an easy
> or inexpensive way to play
> the soundtrack salvaged from the *.mpg.
> 
> I'm coming to the end of this road... it's too bumpy
> & rocky!  So... who cares?
> TomR.

* Hey Tom Relax with a Gameboy sometime !
  Even I take breaks so those old flip math numbers
  don't boggle me down.  For about a hour I coulda
  figure out color morphing for Fireworks v0.3 and
  then it finally came to me after I relaxed with my
  Gameboy a bit..  :)

Sincerely,
David W.
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Hi John,
I am fine. Just a little miffed from not being able to get my backups off of
my tape drive. HP says that I need new software for Win98 but I can't order
it until Wednesday.

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I have some problems in changing over to Windows 98. I will get the news
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List Member Wolfgang Schindler <W.Schindler@josefstal.de> wrote:
Hi DAvid,


Today I discovered your Fireworks - and was very glad,
'cause it's just as nice as an old ATARI-Screeensaver, I once loved very
much, without any colour, of course.

So thank you very much.

But, Ideas are growing immediately:
why not make it as big as the whole screen? havbe it as a screensaver
even?

No, you dont have to di it all alone. Just give 1 year time and the
GfA-source ...
Interested?

Just let me know!

Mit freundlichen / herzlichen Gr=FC=DFen

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I had some problems with the news letter subscriber list. If you did not =
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hey Dale !!

Glad you are doing O-K !

I went to see my Mom yesterday I said I brought
some fireworks and asked if she wanted any she said
NO I don't want any fireworks I said yes she does and
she said no she doesn't and I said yes she does and
she sayed (again) no she doesn't so I showed her
my fireworks and she said okee I'll take THOSE
fireworks.  :)

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Now have the Xaudio.dll SDK in hand.  Playing MP3 from GFA-W(16) may now be
possible.

The calls are a bit strange to me:
C Syntax:
control_message_send(player, XA_MSG_COMMAND_EXIT);

C++ Syntax:
XA_Player::Exit();

Include File:
player.h

Could sure use some help translating these!
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
At 05:23 PM 03/07/00 -0700, you wrote:
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Got it, Dale.  Welcome back online.
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List Member Thomas Gonschor <thomas.gonschor@vph-bensberg.de> wrote:
Hi!

Has anoyone a routine or function to format a disk(ette)?

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> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
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I have it, but not on this computer. If you don't get another answer
download BCOPY from my web site. It has a routine to use the standard
Windows disk format dialog.
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Has anoyone a routine or function to format a disk(ette)?

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> List Member Thomas Gonschor <thomas.gonschor@vph-bensberg.de> wrote:
> Has anoyone a routine or function to format a disk(ette)?
>=20
it should work, using  "SHELL" to run DOS and then with "Format a:" in
the commandline.

Deutsch: Eigentlich sollte es so funktionieren: mit SHELL DOS aufrufen
und als Kommanozeile den Formatbefehl =FCbergeben.
(aus irgendeinem mir schleierhaften Grund bekomm ich's aber gerade nicht
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List Member "Bev Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
Hi Thomas:

Give this a try:

     EXEC "rundll32.exe shell32.dll,SHFormatDrive",""
 
this actually brings up Win95/98 dialog box...

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Got it!!!

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Greets Bev:

--- Bev Brown <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
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> Give this a try:
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>  
> this actually brings up Win95/98 dialog box...
> 
>                                    -->Bev<--

Is there a way to use this rundll32.exe or shell32.dll
stuff to do a CLEAN DOS Shell routine like:

DIR > DIR.TXT .

I know you have DIR TO and FILES TO but it's not as
descriptive, especially if you recurse the path

DIR /S > DIR.TXT .

Sincerely,
David W.

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Hi Thomas (again):

I did a little digging & found the old way to format a disk (ie: way back
with DOS or Win3.x); if you want to do everything yourself instead of using
Win95/98's dialog I can send you an outline on how to do it; the file you
need is the old FORMAT.COM & it can still be found in C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND\.

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List Member Thomas Gonschor <thomas.gonschor@vph-bensberg.de> wrote:
Hi!

Has anoyone a routine or function to format a disk(ette)?

Many thanks in advance,
kind regards
Yours

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:

Greet Bev:

* Old Way ?

--- Bev Brown <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
> List Member "Bev Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com>
> wrote:
> Hi Thomas (again):
> 
> I did a little digging & found the old way to format
> a disk (ie: way back

* OLD WAY ??  Ya better smile when you say that I
still format disks the "old" way Bev.  :)

format {drive} {/q = quick} {/u = unconditional}

format a: /q /u

will format a floppy disk quickly (meaning it only
zaps the VTOC and FAT), and unconditional no questions
asked.

Sincerely,
David W.

DOS isn't dead but there sure are a lotta people
measuring a casket for it.

> with DOS or Win3.x); if you want to do everything
> yourself instead of using
> Win95/98's dialog I can send you an outline on how
> to do it; the file you
> need is the old FORMAT.COM & it can still be found
> in C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND\.
> 
>                                    -->Bev<--
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> List Member Thomas Gonschor
> <thomas.gonschor@vph-bensberg.de> wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> Has anoyone a routine or function to format a
> disk(ette)?
> 
> Many thanks in advance,
> kind regards
> Yours
> 
> Thomas
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
hows about a gripe <G>?
Please kill the HTML part - otherwise yer a perty good feller <G>.
We've been holding off sending to see if you'd ever get the new 'puter
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At 09:58 AM 04/07/00 -0700, you wrote:
>OK, I am back! Where are all those code examples. News letter articles? I
thought you guys all loved me.<G> John Findlay missed me. Does that make me
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>News letter articles? I thought you guys all loved me.&lt;G&gt; John Findlay 
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 Dadgummit, Tom, give me while. I really didn't realize it was in HTML. I
got it fixed so all should be well.
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> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> hows about a gripe <G>?
> Please kill the HTML part - otherwise yer a perty good feller <G>.
> We've been holding off sending to see if you'd ever get the new 'puter
> online <G>.
> <G>
> TomR.
>
>
> At 09:58 AM 04/07/00 -0700, you wrote:
> >OK, I am back! Where are all those code examples. News letter articles? I
> thought you guys all loved me.<G> John Findlay missed me. Does that make
me
> feel good or what?
> >Biography Information?
> >Photo?
> >adbryant@gfa.net
> >
> >http://gfawhelp.com
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
HI Thomas,
Here is one that works well for me.
dale
------------ CUT ---------------

PROCEDURE Format_Disk
 //Checks whether Shell32.dll exists
  IF EXIST(windir$ + "\system\shell32.dll") THEN found| = 1
  //Checks whether rundll32.exe exists
  IF EXIST(windir$ + "\rundll32.exe") AND found| = 1
    // if found, starts FormatDialog
    EXEC windir$ + "\rundll32.exe shell32.dll,SHFormatDrive",""
    found| = 0
  ELSE // if not found
    found| = 0
    MESSAGE sysfile$(0),"Warning",MB_ICONEXCLAMATION | MB_OK,n&
  ENDIF
RETURN
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Hi!

Has anoyone a routine or function to format a disk(ette)?

Many thanks in advance,
kind regards
Yours

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List Member "Bev Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
Hi Dave:

Smile yourself; maybe it's time to move on. <g>

 In windows, it takes a full routine to write the OLD way into a program but
only one line to use the new way.

                                   -->Bev<--

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> List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Greet Bev:
>
> * Old Way ?
>
> --- Bev Brown <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
> > List Member "Bev Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com>
> > wrote:
> > Hi Thomas (again):
> >
> > I did a little digging & found the old way to format
> > a disk (ie: way back
>
> * OLD WAY ??  Ya better smile when you say that I
> still format disks the "old" way Bev.  :)
>
> format {drive} {/q = quick} {/u = unconditional}
>
> format a: /q /u
>
> will format a floppy disk quickly (meaning it only
> zaps the VTOC and FAT), and unconditional no questions
> asked.
>
> Sincerely,
> David W.
>
> DOS isn't dead but there sure are a lotta people
> measuring a casket for it.
>
> > with DOS or Win3.x); if you want to do everything
> > yourself instead of using
> > Win95/98's dialog I can send you an outline on how
> > to do it; the file you
> > need is the old FORMAT.COM & it can still be found
> > in C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND\.
> >
> >                                    -->Bev<--
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Thomas Gonschor"
> > <thomas.gonschor@vph-bensberg.de>
> > To: "GFA Mailingliste" <gfabasic@gfa.net>
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> >
> > List Member Thomas Gonschor
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> > Hi!
> >
> > Has anoyone a routine or function to format a
> > disk(ette)?
> >
> > Many thanks in advance,
> > kind regards
> > Yours
> >
> > Thomas
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Hey Dale:

How about using TRY...CATCH instead!  <G>

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> List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> HI Thomas,
> Here is one that works well for me.
> dale
> ------------ CUT ---------------
> 
> PROCEDURE Format_Disk
>  file://Checks whether Shell32.dll exists
>   IF EXIST(windir$ + "\system\shell32.dll") THEN found| = 1
>   file://Checks whether rundll32.exe exists
>   IF EXIST(windir$ + "\rundll32.exe") AND found| = 1
>     // if found, starts FormatDialog
>     EXEC windir$ + "\rundll32.exe shell32.dll,SHFormatDrive",""
>     found| = 0
>   ELSE // if not found
>     found| = 0
>     MESSAGE sysfile$(0),"Warning",MB_ICONEXCLAMATION | MB_OK,n&
>   ENDIF
> RETURN
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
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> To: GFA Mailingliste <gfabasic@gfa.net>
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> List Member Thomas Gonschor <thomas.gonschor@vph-bensberg.de> wrote:
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> Has anoyone a routine or function to format a disk(ette)?
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> Many thanks in advance,
> kind regards
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List Member Thomas Gonschor <thomas.gonschor@vph-bensberg.de> wrote:
Hi All!

Many thanks for yours listings refering to my "format-problem". All
that listings work fine, but I need something that will work with
win3.11.

Has anyone an idea?

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List Member Thomas Gonschor <thomas.gonschor@vph-bensberg.de> wrote:
Hi Bev!

>     EXEC "rundll32.exe shell32.dll,SHFormatDrive",""

Kind regards for this short listing.

I am looking for a routine, that allows me to run my progrmm on
Win3.11, too. So I need a listing to format a media.

Do you have got an idea?

Many thanks in advance
Yours

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List Member Thomas Gonschor <thomas.gonschor@vph-bensberg.de> wrote:
Hi David!

>Wellll there's only 1 (one) way to get 100%
>refresh and that's with Russell's patent-pending
>(deemed safe to all household cats) WindowLock !  :)

Sorry, that I reply to your mail til now. I have tried to understand
it, but it seem that I am to stupid. Please be so kind as to explain
what you meen with the following:

>To keep tabs on memory, if you hit any errors in
>your proggy, write a routine called ZZ or something
>that fixes all memory real quick so when you hit
>error tap [F4] zz [ENTER] and =3DTHEN=3D deal with the
>error with memory none the worse for wear.

Many thanks in advance
Yours

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List Member "Bev Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
Morning Thomas:
Here ye be:

1. make sure that FORMAT.COM exists (filename$=full name)
2. now get the info for 'temp$'; you need the drive (A or B), the size
(1.44M or 720K) & if you wish a QUICK format or not
    ie: temp$=a: /u /t:1440
         temp$=b: /q /t:720
3. ~EXEC(filename$,temp$)

I hope this helps.

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List Member Thomas Gonschor <thomas.gonschor@vph-bensberg.de> wrote:
Hi Bev!

>     EXEC "rundll32.exe shell32.dll,SHFormatDrive",""

Kind regards for this short listing.

I am looking for a routine, that allows me to run my progrmm on
Win3.11, too. So I need a listing to format a media.

Do you have got an idea?

Many thanks in advance
Yours

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List Member "Michal Sejfried" <42810730@pro.onet.pl> wrote:
Hi Tom

I've all Xaudio commands and xaudio.dll but when i use the 32-bit library -
Gfa Basic returned Peek Poke Error/Address call. If you want I can send it
to you?

Best Regards
Peter

42810730@pro.onet.pl

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> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Now have the Xaudio.dll SDK in hand.  Playing MP3 from GFA-W(16) may now
be
> possible.
>
> The calls are a bit strange to me:
> C Syntax:
> control_message_send(player, XA_MSG_COMMAND_EXIT);
>
> C++ Syntax:
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>
> Include File:
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> Could sure use some help translating these!
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Peter

Please send & I'll try to find the problem.  If you would, please, mark the
line you get the error on.  It *should* put the cursor on the bad line.
Thanks very much.

I got the mp3 player off Dale's site tonight.  It is 32-bit.  I haven't looked
at it yet, but perhaps it can be modified & compiled into 16-bit as a *.lib.

<G>
TomR.



At 12:56 PM 05/07/00 +0200, you wrote:
>List Member "Michal Sejfried" <42810730@pro.onet.pl> wrote:
>Hi Tom
>
>I've all Xaudio commands and xaudio.dll but when i use the 32-bit library -
>Gfa Basic returned Peek Poke Error/Address call. If you want I can send it
>to you?
>
>Best Regards
>Peter
>
>42810730@pro.onet.pl
>
>----- Original Message -----
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>Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2000 3:27 AM
>Subject: [gfabasic] xaudio's SDK
>
>
>> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> Now have the Xaudio.dll SDK in hand.  Playing MP3 from GFA-W(16) may now
>be
>> possible.
>>
>> The calls are a bit strange to me:
>> C Syntax:
>> control_message_send(player, XA_MSG_COMMAND_EXIT);
>>
>> C++ Syntax:
>> XA_Player::Exit();
>>
>> Include File:
>> player.h
>>
>> Could sure use some help translating these!
>> TomR.
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Jes' teasin, Dale.  I know you've been as busy as the only flea on a dog <G>!
TomR.


At 04:41 PM 04/07/00 -0700, you wrote:
>List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> Dadgummit, Tom, give me while. I really didn't realize it was in HTML. I
>got it fixed so all should be well.
>dale
>
>http://gfawhelp.com
>
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>> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> hows about a gripe <G>?
>> Please kill the HTML part - otherwise yer a perty good feller <G>.
>> We've been holding off sending to see if you'd ever get the new 'puter
>> online <G>.
>> <G>
>> TomR.
>>
>>
>> At 09:58 AM 04/07/00 -0700, you wrote:
>> >OK, I am back! Where are all those code examples. News letter articles? I
>> thought you guys all loved me.<G> John Findlay missed me. Does that make
>me
>> feel good or what?
>> >Biography Information?
>> >Photo?
>> >adbryant@gfa.net
>> >
>> >http://gfawhelp.com
>> >
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Real news!  Ulli, your player works just fine here, but ONLY if I load an
MP3 that
has the extension of MPG!  Yes, I added that mask to it.

If I load an extension MP3, I get "MMSYSTEM263 is not a registered device".
Clear
the message & it's back to find an MP3.

OK - this thing is 32-bit, but I *think* it can be converted to 16-bit.
Would sure
answer my need if it can!

Oh... I had to download (2 attempts) GFA32 to try it.  Download got down to
300b/s!

I need a nap.  Anna has to be at the airport in 4 hours - she's off to
Italy.  I've
been up all night getting this 32-bit mess.

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List Member Thomas Gonschor <thomas.gonschor@vph-bensberg.de> wrote:
Hi Bev!

>1. make sure that FORMAT.COM exists (filename$=3Dfull name)
>2. now get the info for 'temp$'; you need the drive (A or B), the
>size
>(1.44M or 720K) & if you wish a QUICK format or not
>    ie: temp$=3Da: /u /t:1440
>         temp$=3Db: /q /t:720
>3. ~EXEC(filename$,temp$)

Yes, ist works! But - there is one little thing: FORMAT.COM prompts
me to confirm the formatting of the media. Is there a posibillity to
avoid this?

Kind regards
Yours

Thomas

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:

--- Bev Brown <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
> List Member "Bev Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com>
> wrote:
> Hi Dave:
> 
> Smile yourself; maybe it's time to move on. <g>
> 
>  In windows, it takes a full routine to write the
> OLD way into a program but
> only one line to use the new way.
> 
>                                    -->Bev<--

Huum..
Well Bev can it do a quick format ?
I think I tried format in Windows onetime and
it cleans the whole disk first.

Yah I'm an impatient litle cuss.  :)

Sincerely,
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List Member "Bev Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
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Hi Thomas:

Truthfully, it's been so long since I used it, I can't remember. I looked at
my DOS version & nothing there. I've included a LISTed version it (just in
case you don't have GFA Basic) for you to kook at.

                                   -->Bev<--

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List Member Thomas Gonschor <thomas.gonschor@vph-bensberg.de> wrote:
Hi Bev!

>1. make sure that FORMAT.COM exists (filename$=full name)
>2. now get the info for 'temp$'; you need the drive (A or B), the
>size
>(1.44M or 720K) & if you wish a QUICK format or not
>    ie: temp$=a: /u /t:1440
>         temp$=b: /q /t:720
>3. ~EXEC(filename$,temp$)

Yes, ist works! But - there is one little thing: FORMAT.COM prompts
me to confirm the formatting of the media. Is there a posibillity to
avoid this?

Kind regards
Yours

Thomas

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Greets Thomas:

You could use this which should work in 3.1 or 95/98

PROCEDURE Format(Drive$)
  LOCAL GNT
  GNT = GetNumTasks()
  SHELL "echo.|format " + Drive$ + ": /u"
  WHILE GNT <> GetNumTasks()
    PEEKEVENT
  WEND
RETURN

If you don't like SHELL you could substitute:

EXEC "echo.|format " + Drive$ + ": /u",""

Be sure to have that "" on the end as the 2nd
argument.

SHELL does a DOS shell invisibly for 95/98 and
visibly for 3.1 (but is not 100% reliable)

EXEC works correctly every time with the
GetNumTasks() but opens up a window every
time and SOMETIMES requires you to close the
window with [ALT] F4

That nifty little echo. forces a [ENTER] thru
the keyboard so no questions asked at all.

Before DelTree existed I would use in QBasic:

SHELL "echo.|del " + DirName$
RMDIR DirName$

Hope This Helps !

Sincerely,
David W.

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> <thomas.gonschor@vph-bensberg.de> wrote:
> Hi All!
> 
> Many thanks for yours listings refering to my
> "format-problem". All
> that listings work fine, but I need something that
> will work with
> win3.11.
> 
> Has anyone an idea?
> 
> Many thanks in advance
> kind regards
> Yours
> 
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Well some folks out here are talking about MP3 and
with a little bit of info I see the best spokesperson
on it is Roland Walter, the excellent artist on the
unzip.DLL !

Roland, I've got-a few MP3 called The Last Unicorn
can send you a few if you like.  Can you please post
a program that plays a single MP3 by itself ?

I've gotta MP3 player but I wanna write my own that
goes off at 7am in the morning to wake me.

With help from Engelbert Loock I managed to put
together Wind Chimes and would definitely like to
make a mini MP3 player that I as well as every-one
else can understand.

Thanks !

Sincerely,
David W.

--- David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Greets Thomas:
> 
> You could use this which should work in 3.1 or 95/98
> 
> PROCEDURE Format(Drive$)
>   LOCAL GNT
>   GNT = GetNumTasks()
>   SHELL "echo.|format " + Drive$ + ": /u"
>   WHILE GNT <> GetNumTasks()
>     PEEKEVENT
>   WEND
> RETURN
> 
> If you don't like SHELL you could substitute:
> 
> EXEC "echo.|format " + Drive$ + ": /u",""
> 
> Be sure to have that "" on the end as the 2nd
> argument.
> 
> SHELL does a DOS shell invisibly for 95/98 and
> visibly for 3.1 (but is not 100% reliable)
> 
> EXEC works correctly every time with the
> GetNumTasks() but opens up a window every
> time and SOMETIMES requires you to close the
> window with [ALT] F4
> 
> That nifty little echo. forces a [ENTER] thru
> the keyboard so no questions asked at all.
> 
> Before DelTree existed I would use in QBasic:
> 
> SHELL "echo.|del " + DirName$
> RMDIR DirName$
> 
> Hope This Helps !
> 
> Sincerely,
> David W.
> 
> --- Thomas Gonschor
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> > 
> > Many thanks for yours listings refering to my
> > "format-problem". All
> > that listings work fine, but I need something that
> > will work with
> > win3.11.
> > 
> > Has anyone an idea?
> > 
> > Many thanks in advance
> > kind regards
> > Yours
> > 
> > Thomas
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Greets Thomas:

I have included a very small example using
Russell's excellent WindowLock.
[enclosed]

Dale, if you wanna post this, that's fine,
NO for LazerZap, YES for this.  :)

Sincerely,
David W.

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> <thomas.gonschor@vph-bensberg.de> wrote:
> Hi David!
> 
> >Wellll there's only 1 (one) way to get 100%
> >refresh and that's with Russell's patent-pending
> >(deemed safe to all household cats) WindowLock ! 
> :)
> 
> Sorry, that I reply to your mail til now. I have
> tried to understand
> it, but it seem that I am to stupid. Please be so
> kind as to explain
> what you meen with the following:
> 
> >To keep tabs on memory, if you hit any errors in
> >your proggy, write a routine called ZZ or something
> >that fixes all memory real quick so when you hit
> >error tap [F4] zz [ENTER] and =THEN= deal with the
> >error with memory none the worse for wear.
> 
> Many thanks in advance
> Yours
> 
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List Member "Bev Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
Dave:

For ctying out loud, run the routine:

rundll32.exe shell32.dll,SHFormatDrive

it allows 'quick format'; you can slso 'label' the disk & make a disk with
or wothout 'system' files.

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> List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> --- Bev Brown <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
> > List Member "Bev Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com>
> > wrote:
> > Hi Dave:
> >
> > Smile yourself; maybe it's time to move on. <g>
> >
> >  In windows, it takes a full routine to write the
> > OLD way into a program but
> > only one line to use the new way.
> >
> >                                    -->Bev<--
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> Huum..
> Well Bev can it do a quick format ?
> I think I tried format in Windows onetime and
> it cleans the whole disk first.
>
> Yah I'm an impatient litle cuss.  :)
>
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Has anybody done a dialer yet?  Just a simple phone dialer?  16-bit, of course.
I have several from around the world, but none seems to want to work w/ my 56k
modem.  Not really critical, but would be very helpful.
Thanks

<G>
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List Member "Bev Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
Hi Tom:

Here's a routine that might help; hope you can figure it out!

dial$ = "ATDT ",port|=1
PROCEDURE dialer(test|)
  SELECT test|
  CASE 1
    subtit$ = "Auto Dial"
    IF !cnt
      @no_data
    ELSE
      info$ = "(will find EACH match in order)"
      prompt$ = "Enter Name: "
      ln& = 30
      @file_call("")
      IF strng$ = ""
        @beep
      ELSE
        CLR ctr,chk
        match$ = LOWER$(strng$)
        next_dial:
        DEFMOUSE 2
        mess$ = "Checking ... Item #"
        @Statusbar
        REPEAT
          ctr ++
          @draw_status2(mess$ + STR$(ctr),blue)
          chk = INSTR(LOWER$(MID$(txt$(ctr - 1),1,ln&)),match$)
          EXIT IF chk
        UNTIL ctr = cnt
        @status2_off
        DEFMOUSE 0
        flg1! = FALSE
        IF chk
          temp$ = TRIM$(LEFT$(txt$(ctr - 1),30))
          strng$ = TRIM$(RIGHT$(txt$(ctr - 1),16))
          @make_call
        ELSE
          @beep
          @Statusbar
          mess$ = "NO match found!"
          @draw_status(mess$,red,35)
        ENDIF
        IF flg1! THEN GOTO next_dial
      ENDIF
    ENDIF
  CASE 2
    subtit$ = "Manual Dial"
    info$ = "(phone number can include '-')"
    prompt$ = "Enter Telephone number: "
    ln& = 16
    @file_call("")
    IF strng$ = ""
      @beep
    ELSE
      CLR temp$
      @make_call
    ENDIF
  CASE 3
    subtit$ = "Modem Setup"
    @phone_setup
  CASE 4
    @draw_status2("Modem reset!",red)
    @Modem_reset
    @draw_status("Modem ready!",blue,18)
  ENDSELECT
  DEFMOUSE 0
RETURN
'
PROCEDURE make_call
  @bell
  mess$ = "Call " + temp$ + " ... " + strng$ + "?"
  j = ^bwccMessageBox(hWndMain&,mess$,title$,style4)
  IF j = IDYES
    temp$ = dial$ + strng$ + CHR$(13)
    FOR i = 1 TO LEN(temp$)
      x| = ASC(MID$(temp$,i,1))
      j = TransmitCommChar(port|,x|)
      PAUSE 1
    NEXT i
    mess$ = "Pick up the phone, click on OK or press [Enter]!"
    ~^bwccMessageBox(hWndMain&,mess$,title$,style3)
    @Modem_reset
  ELSE IF j = IDNO
    flg1! = TRUE
    @beep
  ELSE
    @beep
  ENDIF
RETURN
'
PROCEDURE Modem_reset
  i = EscapeCommFunction(port|,CLRDTR)  /* drop DTR line
  PAUSE 9
  i = EscapeCommFunction(port|,SETDTR)  /* raise DTR line - MUST be twice
  i = EscapeCommFunction(port|,SETRTS)  /* raise RTS line
  PAUSE 9
RETURN
'
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> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Has anybody done a dialer yet?  Just a simple phone dialer?  16-bit, of
course.
> I have several from around the world, but none seems to want to work w/ my
56k
> modem.  Not really critical, but would be very helpful.
> Thanks
>
> <G>
> TomR.
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Weeell..

I'll keep it in my notes for safekeeping.  :)

Sincerely,
David W.

In the end, it's not a matter of who is RIGHT,
but who is LEFT..  :)

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> Dave:
> 
> For ctying out loud, run the routine:
> 
> rundll32.exe shell32.dll,SHFormatDrive
> 
> it allows 'quick format'; you can slso 'label' the
> disk & make a disk with
> or wothout 'system' files.
> 
>                                    -->Bev<--
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Wicker" <dw817@yahoo.com>
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> Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2000 11:24 AM
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> > List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > --- Bev Brown <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
> > > List Member "Bev Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > Hi Dave:
> > >
> > > Smile yourself; maybe it's time to move on. <g>
> > >
> > >  In windows, it takes a full routine to write
> the
> > > OLD way into a program but
> > > only one line to use the new way.
> > >
> > >                                    -->Bev<--
> >
> > Huum..
> > Well Bev can it do a quick format ?
> > I think I tried format in Windows onetime and
> > it cleans the whole disk first.
> >
> > Yah I'm an impatient litle cuss.  :)
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > David W.
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List Member "Russell Hayward" <russ@softhome.net> wrote:

Hi Thomas,

> Hm, and where is the relation to my question? My problem is the
> redraw at the start of the programm. Windows do not send a redraw, so
> I can't react. Can I send a redraw by myself?

Here's the easiest way to get a whole window to redraw:

~InvalidateRect(WIN(),NULL,1)

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Greets Bev:

Could you post that please as a binary attachment ?
It's got lines that wrap incorrect with ASCII
insertion.

Thanks !

Sincerely,
David W.

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> List Member "Bev Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com>
> wrote:
> Hi Tom:
> 
> Here's a routine that might help; hope you can
> figure it out!
> 
> dial$ = "ATDT ",port|=1
> PROCEDURE dialer(test|)
>   SELECT test|
>   CASE 1
>     subtit$ = "Auto Dial"
>     IF !cnt
>       @no_data
>     ELSE
>       info$ = "(will find EACH match in order)"
>       prompt$ = "Enter Name: "
>       ln& = 30
>       @file_call("")
>       IF strng$ = ""
>         @beep
>       ELSE
>         CLR ctr,chk
>         match$ = LOWER$(strng$)
>         next_dial:
>         DEFMOUSE 2
>         mess$ = "Checking ... Item #"
>         @Statusbar
>         REPEAT
>           ctr ++
>           @draw_status2(mess$ + STR$(ctr),blue)
>           chk = INSTR(LOWER$(MID$(txt$(ctr -
> 1),1,ln&)),match$)
>           EXIT IF chk
>         UNTIL ctr = cnt
>         @status2_off
>         DEFMOUSE 0
>         flg1! = FALSE
>         IF chk
>           temp$ = TRIM$(LEFT$(txt$(ctr - 1),30))
>           strng$ = TRIM$(RIGHT$(txt$(ctr - 1),16))
>           @make_call
>         ELSE
>           @beep
>           @Statusbar
>           mess$ = "NO match found!"
>           @draw_status(mess$,red,35)
>         ENDIF
>         IF flg1! THEN GOTO next_dial
>       ENDIF
>     ENDIF
>   CASE 2
>     subtit$ = "Manual Dial"
>     info$ = "(phone number can include '-')"
>     prompt$ = "Enter Telephone number: "
>     ln& = 16
>     @file_call("")
>     IF strng$ = ""
>       @beep
>     ELSE
>       CLR temp$
>       @make_call
>     ENDIF
>   CASE 3
>     subtit$ = "Modem Setup"
>     @phone_setup
>   CASE 4
>     @draw_status2("Modem reset!",red)
>     @Modem_reset
>     @draw_status("Modem ready!",blue,18)
>   ENDSELECT
>   DEFMOUSE 0
> RETURN
> '
> PROCEDURE make_call
>   @bell
>   mess$ = "Call " + temp$ + " ... " + strng$ + "?"
>   j = ^bwccMessageBox(hWndMain&,mess$,title$,style4)
>   IF j = IDYES
>     temp$ = dial$ + strng$ + CHR$(13)
>     FOR i = 1 TO LEN(temp$)
>       x| = ASC(MID$(temp$,i,1))
>       j = TransmitCommChar(port|,x|)
>       PAUSE 1
>     NEXT i
>     mess$ = "Pick up the phone, click on OK or press
> [Enter]!"
>     ~^bwccMessageBox(hWndMain&,mess$,title$,style3)
>     @Modem_reset
>   ELSE IF j = IDNO
>     flg1! = TRUE
>     @beep
>   ELSE
>     @beep
>   ENDIF
> RETURN
> '
> PROCEDURE Modem_reset
>   i = EscapeCommFunction(port|,CLRDTR)  /* drop DTR
> line
>   PAUSE 9
>   i = EscapeCommFunction(port|,SETDTR)  /* raise DTR
> line - MUST be twice
>   i = EscapeCommFunction(port|,SETRTS)  /* raise RTS
> line
>   PAUSE 9
> RETURN
> '
>                                    -->Bev<--
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tom Record"
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net>
> To: <gfabasic@gfa.net>
> Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2000 2:47 AM
> Subject: [gfabasic] com & dialing
> 
> 
> > List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> > Has anybody done a dialer yet?  Just a simple
> phone dialer?  16-bit, of
> course.
> > I have several from around the world, but none
> seems to want to work w/ my
> 56k
> > modem.  Not really critical, but would be very
> helpful.
> > Thanks
> >
> > <G>
> > TomR.
> >
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Sure thing.  Hey Thomas !

If you're working on a video-game feel free to show
us.  All ways interested in those.  :)

Sincerely,
David W.

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> Hi David,
> 
> thank you for your listing.
> 
> >I have included a very small example using
> >Russell's excellent WindowLock.
> 
> Hm, and where is the relation to my question? My
> problem is the
> redraw at the start of the programm. Windows do not
> send a redraw, so
> I can't react. Can I send a redraw by myself?
> 
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hm, and where is the relation to my question? My
> problem is the
> redraw at the start of the programm. Windows do not
> send a redraw, so
> I can't react. Can I send a redraw by myself?
> 
> many thanks in advance
> Kind regards
> 
> Thomas

Huum ??  Oh..  This is address to me.  :)

Okay well Thomas if you just wanna redraw, you can
have this in your loop after PEEKEVENT or GETEVENT

IF MENU(1)=21 THEN RedrawScreen

Where "RedrawScreen" is a custom routine you've
written to redraw the screen.  It's the easiest way
to do it.  You can use interrupts of course too but
you can't put too much code in those or it ties up
the computer.

Seriously tho WindowLock works 100% of time.
Try to cover up the window shift it off screen
deselect or any-thing else for that matter.  It's
a persistent display and cannot be muddled.  :)

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member Thomas Gonschor <thomas.gonschor@vph-bensberg.de> wrote:
Hi David,

thank you for your listing.

>I have included a very small example using
>Russell's excellent WindowLock.

Hm, and where is the relation to my question? My problem is the
redraw at the start of the programm. Windows do not send a redraw, so
I can't react. Can I send a redraw by myself?

many thanks in advance
Kind regards

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Subject: Re: [gfabasic] format a disk
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Ohoo, testy!<G>
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----- Original Message -----
From: Bev Brown <bbrown1@ciaccess.com>
To: <gfabasic@gfa.net>
Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2000 11:26 PM
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> List Member "Bev Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
> Dave:
>
> For ctying out loud, run the routine:
>
> rundll32.exe shell32.dll,SHFormatDrive
>
> it allows 'quick format'; you can slso 'label' the disk & make a disk with
> or wothout 'system' files.
>
>                                    -->Bev<--
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Wicker" <dw817@yahoo.com>
> To: <gfabasic@gfa.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2000 11:24 AM
> Subject: Re: [gfabasic] format a disk
>
>
> > List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > --- Bev Brown <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
> > > List Member "Bev Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > Hi Dave:
> > >
> > > Smile yourself; maybe it's time to move on. <g>
> > >
> > >  In windows, it takes a full routine to write the
> > > OLD way into a program but
> > > only one line to use the new way.
> > >
> > >                                    -->Bev<--
> >
> > Huum..
> > Well Bev can it do a quick format ?
> > I think I tried format in Windows onetime and
> > it cleans the whole disk first.
> >
> > Yah I'm an impatient litle cuss.  :)
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > David W.
> >
> >
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List Member "Bev Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
This is a multi-part message in MIME format.

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Here it is in plain text form!

                                   -->Bev<--

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Wicker" <dw817@yahoo.com>
To: <gfabasic@gfa.net>
Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2000 9:40 AM
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> List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Greets Bev:
> 
> Could you post that please as a binary attachment ?
> It's got lines that wrap incorrect with ASCII
> insertion.
> 
> Thanks !
> 
> Sincerely,
> David W.
> 
> --- Bev Brown <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
> > List Member "Bev Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com>
> > wrote:
> > Hi Tom:
> > 
> > Here's a routine that might help; hope you can
> > figure it out!
> > 
> > dial$ = "ATDT ",port|=1
> > PROCEDURE dialer(test|)
> >   SELECT test|
> >   CASE 1
> >     subtit$ = "Auto Dial"
> >     IF !cnt
> >       @no_data
> >     ELSE
> >       info$ = "(will find EACH match in order)"
> >       prompt$ = "Enter Name: "
> >       ln& = 30
> >       @file_call("")
> >       IF strng$ = ""
> >         @beep
> >       ELSE
> >         CLR ctr,chk
> >         match$ = LOWER$(strng$)
> >         next_dial:
> >         DEFMOUSE 2
> >         mess$ = "Checking ... Item #"
> >         @Statusbar
> >         REPEAT
> >           ctr ++
> >           @draw_status2(mess$ + STR$(ctr),blue)
> >           chk = INSTR(LOWER$(MID$(txt$(ctr -
> > 1),1,ln&)),match$)
> >           EXIT IF chk
> >         UNTIL ctr = cnt
> >         @status2_off
> >         DEFMOUSE 0
> >         flg1! = FALSE
> >         IF chk
> >           temp$ = TRIM$(LEFT$(txt$(ctr - 1),30))
> >           strng$ = TRIM$(RIGHT$(txt$(ctr - 1),16))
> >           @make_call
> >         ELSE
> >           @beep
> >           @Statusbar
> >           mess$ = "NO match found!"
> >           @draw_status(mess$,red,35)
> >         ENDIF
> >         IF flg1! THEN GOTO next_dial
> >       ENDIF
> >     ENDIF
> >   CASE 2
> >     subtit$ = "Manual Dial"
> >     info$ = "(phone number can include '-')"
> >     prompt$ = "Enter Telephone number: "
> >     ln& = 16
> >     @file_call("")
> >     IF strng$ = ""
> >       @beep
> >     ELSE
> >       CLR temp$
> >       @make_call
> >     ENDIF
> >   CASE 3
> >     subtit$ = "Modem Setup"
> >     @phone_setup
> >   CASE 4
> >     @draw_status2("Modem reset!",red)
> >     @Modem_reset
> >     @draw_status("Modem ready!",blue,18)
> >   ENDSELECT
> >   DEFMOUSE 0
> > RETURN
> > '
> > PROCEDURE make_call
> >   @bell
> >   mess$ = "Call " + temp$ + " ... " + strng$ + "?"
> >   j = ^bwccMessageBox(hWndMain&,mess$,title$,style4)
> >   IF j = IDYES
> >     temp$ = dial$ + strng$ + CHR$(13)
> >     FOR i = 1 TO LEN(temp$)
> >       x| = ASC(MID$(temp$,i,1))
> >       j = TransmitCommChar(port|,x|)
> >       PAUSE 1
> >     NEXT i
> >     mess$ = "Pick up the phone, click on OK or press
> > [Enter]!"
> >     ~^bwccMessageBox(hWndMain&,mess$,title$,style3)
> >     @Modem_reset
> >   ELSE IF j = IDNO
> >     flg1! = TRUE
> >     @beep
> >   ELSE
> >     @beep
> >   ENDIF
> > RETURN
> > '
> > PROCEDURE Modem_reset
> >   i = EscapeCommFunction(port|,CLRDTR)  /* drop DTR
> > line
> >   PAUSE 9
> >   i = EscapeCommFunction(port|,SETDTR)  /* raise DTR
> > line - MUST be twice
> >   i = EscapeCommFunction(port|,SETRTS)  /* raise RTS
> > line
> >   PAUSE 9
> > RETURN
> > '
> >                                    -->Bev<--
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Tom Record"
> > <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net>
> > To: <gfabasic@gfa.net>
> > Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2000 2:47 AM
> > Subject: [gfabasic] com & dialing
> > 
> > 
> > > List Member Tom Record
> > <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> > > Has anybody done a dialer yet?  Just a simple
> > phone dialer?  16-bit, of
> > course.
> > > I have several from around the world, but none
> > seems to want to work w/ my
> > 56k
> > > modem.  Not really critical, but would be very
> > helpful.
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > <G>
> > > TomR.
> > >
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dial$ = "ATDT ",port|=1

PROCEDURE dialer(test|)
SELECT test|
CASE 1
subtit$ = "Auto Dial"
IF !cnt
@no_data
ELSE
info$ = "(will find EACH match in order)"
prompt$ = "Enter Name: "
ln& = 30
@file_call("")
IF strng$ = ""
@beep
ELSE
CLR ctr,chk
match$ = LOWER$(strng$)
next_dial:
DEFMOUSE 2
mess$ = "Checking ... Item #"
@Statusbar
REPEAT
ctr ++
@draw_status2(mess$ + STR$(ctr),blue)
chk = INSTR(LOWER$(MID$(txt$(ctr - 1),1,ln&)),match$)
EXIT IF chk
UNTIL ctr = cnt
@status2_off
DEFMOUSE 0
flg1! = FALSE
IF chk
temp$ = TRIM$(LEFT$(txt$(ctr - 1),30))
strng$ = TRIM$(RIGHT$(txt$(ctr - 1),16))
@make_call
ELSE
@beep
@Statusbar
mess$ = "NO match found!"
@draw_status(mess$,red,35)
ENDIF
IF flg1! THEN GOTO next_dial
ENDIF
ENDIF
CASE 2
subtit$ = "Manual Dial"
info$ = "(phone number can include '-')"
prompt$ = "Enter Telephone number: "
ln& = 16
@file_call("")
IF strng$ = ""
@beep
ELSE
CLR temp$
@make_call
ENDIF
CASE 3
subtit$ = "Modem Setup"
@phone_setup
CASE 4
@draw_status2("Modem reset!",red)
@Modem_reset
@draw_status("Modem ready!",blue,18)
ENDSELECT
DEFMOUSE 0
RETURN
'
PROCEDURE make_call
@bell
mess$ = "Call " + temp$ + " ... " + strng$ + "?"
j = ^bwccMessageBox(hWndMain&,mess$,title$,style4)
IF j = IDYES
temp$ = dial$ + strng$ + CHR$(13)
FOR i = 1 TO LEN(temp$)
x| = ASC(MID$(temp$,i,1))
j = TransmitCommChar(port|,x|)
PAUSE 1
NEXT i
mess$ = "Pick up the phone, click on OK or press [Enter]!"
~^bwccMessageBox(hWndMain&,mess$,title$,style3)
@Modem_reset
ELSE IF j = IDNO
flg1! = TRUE
@beep
ELSE
@beep
ENDIF
RETURN
'
PROCEDURE Modem_reset
i = EscapeCommFunction(port|,CLRDTR) /* drop DTR line
PAUSE 9
i = EscapeCommFunction(port|,SETDTR) /* raise DTR line - MUST be twice
i = EscapeCommFunction(port|,SETRTS) /* raise RTS line
PAUSE 9
RETURN


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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hello all.

I just =RECENTLY= discovered what Shockwave is !
Is there any way to play a .SWF file inside GFA ?

I have a small .SWF .EXE player program but was
curious to know if GFA had any relation with .SWF and
Meta files .WMF ?

Sincerely,
David W.

--- Dale Bryant <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com>
> wrote:
> Ohoo, testy!<G>
> http://gfawhelp.com
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Bev Brown <bbrown1@ciaccess.com>
> To: <gfabasic@gfa.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2000 11:26 PM
> Subject: Re: [gfabasic] format a disk
> 
> 
> > List Member "Bev Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com>
> wrote:
> > Dave:
> >
> > For ctying out loud, run the routine:
> >
> > rundll32.exe shell32.dll,SHFormatDrive
> >
> > it allows 'quick format'; you can slso 'label' the
> disk & make a disk with
> > or wothout 'system' files.
> >
> >                                    -->Bev<--
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "David Wicker" <dw817@yahoo.com>
> > To: <gfabasic@gfa.net>
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2000 11:24 AM
> > Subject: Re: [gfabasic] format a disk
> >
> >
> > > List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- Bev Brown <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
> > > > List Member "Bev Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > Hi Dave:
> > > >
> > > > Smile yourself; maybe it's time to move on.
> <g>
> > > >
> > > >  In windows, it takes a full routine to write
> the
> > > > OLD way into a program but
> > > > only one line to use the new way.
> > > >
> > > >                                    -->Bev<--
> > >
> > > Huum..
> > > Well Bev can it do a quick format ?
> > > I think I tried format in Windows onetime and
> > > it cleans the whole disk first.
> > >
> > > Yah I'm an impatient litle cuss.  :)
> > >
> > > Sincerely,
> > > David W.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> __________________________________________________
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
RGB(r|,g|,b|)

r|	Red component (0-255)
g|	Green component (0-255)
b|	Blue component (0-255)


How does one get the OPPOSITE color?  Adding 127 to each fails for me.  I'm
set up
to recirculate if any one of them exceeds 255 by going to:
IF r|>255 THEN r|=r|-255
IF g|>255 THEN g|=g|-255
IF b|>255 THEN b|=b|-255

Am using GetPixel() & SetPixel().  Where it encounters (0,0,0), I want to
switch it
to (255,255,255).  I've tried adding 127 & 255 both.  Not good.

Is there a known way to accomplish the reversal of colors?
<G>
TomR.

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List Member Doyle Whisenant <mechanic@sonet.net> wrote:
Tom Record wrote:
> 
> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

> 
> Is there a known way to accomplish the reversal of colors?

How about the following? Some drawing modes have been snipped! You may
also want:

DSTINVERT	Inverts the destination bitmap. 

check out BitBlt and the drawing modes. Hope this helps!





int SetROP2(hdc, fnDrawMode)

HDC hdc;	/* handle of device context	*/
int fnDrawMode;	/* new drawing mode	*/


The SetROP2 function sets the current drawing mode. The drawing mode
specifies how the colors of the pen and the interior of filled objects
are combined with the color already on the screen surface. 

Parameter	Description

hdc	Identifies the device context. 
fnDrawMode	Specifies the new drawing mode. This parameter can be one of
the following values: 

Value	Meaning

R2_NOT	Pixel is the inverse of the screen color. 

R2_NOTCOPYPEN	Pixel is the inverse of the pen color. 

R2_MERGEPENNOT	Pixel is a combination of the pen color and the inverse
of the screen color (final pixel = (~screen pixel) | pen). 

R2_MASKPENNOT	Pixel is a combination of the colors common to both the
pen and the inverse of the screen (final pixel = (~screen pixel) & pen). 

R2_MERGENOTPEN	Pixel is a combination of the screen color and the
inverse of the pen color (final pixel = (~pen) | screen pixel). 

R2_MASKNOTPEN	Pixel is a combination of the colors common to both the
screen and the inverse of the pen (final pixel = (~pen) & screen pixel). 
R2_MERGEPEN	Pixel is a combination of the pen color and the screen color
(final pixel = pen | screen pixel). 
R2_NOTMERGEPEN	Pixel is the inverse of the R2_MERGEPEN color (final
pixel = ~(pen | screen pixel)). 

R2_NOTMASKPEN	Pixel is the inverse of the R2_MASKPEN color (final pixel
= ~(pen & screen pixel)). 
R2_XORPEN	Pixel is a combination of the colors that are in the pen and
in the screen, but not in both (final pixel = pen ^ screen pixel). 

R2_NOTXORPEN	Pixel is the inverse of the R2_XORPEN color (final pixel =
~(pen ^ screen pixel)). 



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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Greets Tom:

--- Tom Record
<tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> RGB(r|,g|,b|)
> 
> r|	Red component (0-255)
> g|	Green component (0-255)
> b|	Blue component (0-255)
> 
> 
> How does one get the OPPOSITE color?  Adding 127 to
> each fails for me.  I'm
> set up
> to recirculate if any one of them exceeds 255 by

Easiest way is to put a MIR\ROR in front of it:
:)

PROCEDURE Invert(VAR R,G,B)
  R = 255 - R
  G = 255 - G
  B = 255 - B
RETURN

Okay I'm =REALLY= new at this Dialog window stuff.
I'd like to do the following without having to open
a dialog window.  So far everything works well in
a regular window

BUTTON "Browse",21,43,60,60,20
BUTTON "Browse",22,43,146,60,20
EDITTEXT "",23,5,36,97,21
EDITTEXT "",24,5,122,97,21
BUTTON "G O !",25,43,176,60,21
BUTTON "G o o d b y e",26,3,212,100,21

The ID #'s for these are 21-26,
okay, HOW do you read the value back from an
EDITTEXT field ?

Source$ = PtrData$(23)

I don't want to use DIALOG AT ALL..

This is all being done in a simple OPENW window.
All ready I can read the buttons cleanly

IF MENU(0) = 26 then WereOuttaHere

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
At 07:44 PM 06/07/00 -0700, you wrote:
>List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Greets Tom:
>
>--- Tom Record
><tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> List Member Tom Record
>> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> RGB(r|,g|,b|)
>> 
>> r|	Red component (0-255)
>> g|	Green component (0-255)
>> b|	Blue component (0-255)
>> 
>> 
>> How does one get the OPPOSITE color?  Adding 127 to
>> each fails for me.  I'm
>> set up
>> to recirculate if any one of them exceeds 255 by
>
>Easiest way is to put a MIR\ROR in front of it:
>:)
>

NOT practical!

>
>PROCEDURE Invert(VAR R,G,B)
>  R = 255 - R
>  G = 255 - G
>  B = 255 - B
>RETURN
>
>Okay I'm =REALLY= new at this Dialog window stuff.
>I'd like to do the following without having to open
>a dialog window.  So far everything works well in
>a regular window
>
>BUTTON "Browse",21,43,60,60,20
>BUTTON "Browse",22,43,146,60,20
>EDITTEXT "",23,5,36,97,21
>EDITTEXT "",24,5,122,97,21
>BUTTON "G O !",25,43,176,60,21
>BUTTON "G o o d b y e",26,3,212,100,21
>
>The ID #'s for these are 21-26,
>okay, HOW do you read the value back from an
>EDITTEXT field ?
>

what1$ = _WIN$(DLGITEM(-1,23))
what2$ = _WIN$(DLGITEM(-1,24))

>
>Source$ = PtrData$(23)
>
>I don't want to use DIALOG AT ALL..
>
>This is all being done in a simple OPENW window.
>All ready I can read the buttons cleanly
>
>IF MENU(0) = 26 then WereOuttaHere
>
>Sincerely,
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Wow! <G>

Thanks, Doyle - will see if I can work it out.
<G>
TomR.



At 08:09 PM 06/07/00 -0500, you wrote:
>List Member Doyle Whisenant <mechanic@sonet.net> wrote:
>Tom Record wrote:
>> 
>> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>
>> 
>> Is there a known way to accomplish the reversal of colors?
>
>How about the following? Some drawing modes have been snipped! You may
>also want:
>
>DSTINVERT	Inverts the destination bitmap. 
>
>check out BitBlt and the drawing modes. Hope this helps!
>
>
>
>
>
>int SetROP2(hdc, fnDrawMode)
>
>HDC hdc;	/* handle of device context	*/
>int fnDrawMode;	/* new drawing mode	*/
>
>
>The SetROP2 function sets the current drawing mode. The drawing mode
>specifies how the colors of the pen and the interior of filled objects
>are combined with the color already on the screen surface. 
>
>Parameter	Description
>
>hdc	Identifies the device context. 
>fnDrawMode	Specifies the new drawing mode. This parameter can be one of
>the following values: 
>
>Value	Meaning
>
>R2_NOT	Pixel is the inverse of the screen color. 
>
>R2_NOTCOPYPEN	Pixel is the inverse of the pen color. 
>
>R2_MERGEPENNOT	Pixel is a combination of the pen color and the inverse
>of the screen color (final pixel = (~screen pixel) | pen). 
>
>R2_MASKPENNOT	Pixel is a combination of the colors common to both the
>pen and the inverse of the screen (final pixel = (~screen pixel) & pen). 
>
>R2_MERGENOTPEN	Pixel is a combination of the screen color and the
>inverse of the pen color (final pixel = (~pen) | screen pixel). 
>
>R2_MASKNOTPEN	Pixel is a combination of the colors common to both the
>screen and the inverse of the pen (final pixel = (~pen) & screen pixel). 
>R2_MERGEPEN	Pixel is a combination of the pen color and the screen color
>(final pixel = pen | screen pixel). 
>R2_NOTMERGEPEN	Pixel is the inverse of the R2_MERGEPEN color (final
>pixel = ~(pen | screen pixel)). 
>
>R2_NOTMASKPEN	Pixel is the inverse of the R2_MASKPEN color (final pixel
>= ~(pen & screen pixel)). 
>R2_XORPEN	Pixel is a combination of the colors that are in the pen and
>in the screen, but not in both (final pixel = pen ^ screen pixel). 
>
>R2_NOTXORPEN	Pixel is the inverse of the R2_XORPEN color (final pixel =
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>
>
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List Member "Russell Hayward" <russ@softhome.net> wrote:

Hi Tom,

> RGB(r|,g|,b|)
>
> r| Red component (0-255)
> g| Green component (0-255)
> b| Blue component (0-255)
>
> How does one get the OPPOSITE color?  Adding 127 to each fails for me.
I'm
> set up
> to recirculate if any one of them exceeds 255 by going to:
> IF r|>255 THEN r|=r|-255
> IF g|>255 THEN g|=g|-255
> IF b|>255 THEN b|=b|-255
>
> Am using GetPixel() & SetPixel().  Where it encounters (0,0,0), I want to
> switch it
> to (255,255,255).  I've tried adding 127 & 255 both.  Not good.
>
> Is there a known way to accomplish the reversal of colors?

How about this method?

OppositeCol%=16777215-RGB(r|,g|,b|)

HTH,
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hey Tom !

> 
> NOT practical!

You can also use INVERT H,V,X,Y

> what1$ = _WIN$(DLGITEM(-1,23))
> what2$ = _WIN$(DLGITEM(-1,24))

WELL DONE TOM !!
This is =EXACTLY= what I needed.

+ No you did not confirm what I all ready knew.
+ No I would not have thought of this myself.

Thank You Very Much !

Well, with Tom's help I am now going to SOON put
out a Shock Machine Wizard Importer.

Lots of .SWFs and .DIRs are floating around with
no easy way to put them in this penultimate engine
provided by Shockware itself.

Shockware only wants you to be able to download
games and programs THEY allow with no easy maintenance
or import ability in the engine.  Try it, go into
some neat game or program by someone else and if you
try to SAVE it is ghosted out..  Clear out ALL
temporary files of .DIR and .SWF first and what's left
after you have the new game up and running is a COPY
in the raw of the program they won't let you have.

Going inside the hidden directories inside the
Internet Cache I pulled out a fat .DIR file, and
manually recursing through about 4 directories having
to include a lot of on-the-fly data I managed to
chisel in this choice as a new game for my
Shock Engine.

Programming something like this would be easy,
but doing it manually is a =LOT= of work !

For anyone who has the Shock Engine,
this program is for you !  :)

Sincerely,
David W.

(Fruity Jam on hold till I pop together this little
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi Russell:

> How about this method?
> 
> OppositeCol%=16777215-RGB(r|,g|,b|)
> 
> HTH,
> Russell Hayward

Won't that not work if you're not in 16-bit screen
mode ?  I don't know but is the RGB(R,G,B) the same
value on all monitors ?

Just wondering..

Sincerely,
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List Member "Russell Hayward" <russ@softhome.net> wrote:

Hi David,

> > OppositeCol%=16777215-RGB(r|,g|,b|)
>
> Won't that not work if you're not in 16-bit screen
> mode ?  I don't know but is the RGB(R,G,B) the same
> value on all monitors ?

Fortunately for all our sanity Windows uses the same colour values for all
modes (RGB 888). As far as I know this then gets converted to a colour in
the current palette for 256/16 colour mode or a RGB 565/555 colour in
16/15-bit modes when it creates the pen or brush, or when it plots a pixel.

HTH,
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:

--- Russell Hayward <russ@softhome.net> wrote:

> Hi David,
> Fortunately for all our sanity Windows uses the same
> colour values for all
> modes (RGB 888). As far as I know this then gets
> converted to a colour in
> the current palette for 256/16 colour mode or a RGB
> 565/555 colour in
> 16/15-bit modes when it creates the pen or brush, or
> when it plots a pixel.
> 
> HTH,
> Russell Hayward

Huum..  Then does  C=GetPixel(R,G,B)  also use
RGB 888 or is that monitor dependent.

(I'm trying to find a pattern so I know what I'll
 be up against with blitter objects on other
 computers)..

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
OK, thanks !

Oh in QBasic to dial a # its:

DEFINT A-Z
OPEN "COM4:19200,N,8,1" AS #1
INPUT "# to dial:",N$
IF N$ = "" THEN END
' ^ No need to say CLOSE for COM port, QBee
    closes all open files
PRINT #1,N$
DO
  IF EOF(1)=0 THEN PRINT INPUT$(1,1);
LOOP UNTIL INKEY$ > ""
- - -

Is there an equivalent to this in GFA ?

The above code won't work as it is.

Sincerely,
David W.

--- Bev Brown <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
> Here it is in plain text form!
> 
>                                    -->Bev<--
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "David Wicker" <dw817@yahoo.com>
> To: <gfabasic@gfa.net>
> Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2000 9:40 AM
> Subject: Re: [gfabasic] com & dialing
> 
> 
> > List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Greets Bev:
> > 
> > Could you post that please as a binary attachment
> ?
> > It's got lines that wrap incorrect with ASCII
> > insertion.
> > 
> > Thanks !
> > 
> > Sincerely,
> > David W.
> > 
> > --- Bev Brown <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
> > > List Member "Bev Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > Hi Tom:
> > > 
> > > Here's a routine that might help; hope you can
> > > figure it out!
> > > 
> > > dial$ = "ATDT ",port|=1
> > > PROCEDURE dialer(test|)
> > >   SELECT test|
> > >   CASE 1
> > >     subtit$ = "Auto Dial"
> > >     IF !cnt
> > >       @no_data
> > >     ELSE
> > >       info$ = "(will find EACH match in order)"
> > >       prompt$ = "Enter Name: "
> > >       ln& = 30
> > >       @file_call("")
> > >       IF strng$ = ""
> > >         @beep
> > >       ELSE
> > >         CLR ctr,chk
> > >         match$ = LOWER$(strng$)
> > >         next_dial:
> > >         DEFMOUSE 2
> > >         mess$ = "Checking ... Item #"
> > >         @Statusbar
> > >         REPEAT
> > >           ctr ++
> > >           @draw_status2(mess$ + STR$(ctr),blue)
> > >           chk = INSTR(LOWER$(MID$(txt$(ctr -
> > > 1),1,ln&)),match$)
> > >           EXIT IF chk
> > >         UNTIL ctr = cnt
> > >         @status2_off
> > >         DEFMOUSE 0
> > >         flg1! = FALSE
> > >         IF chk
> > >           temp$ = TRIM$(LEFT$(txt$(ctr - 1),30))
> > >           strng$ = TRIM$(RIGHT$(txt$(ctr -
> 1),16))
> > >           @make_call
> > >         ELSE
> > >           @beep
> > >           @Statusbar
> > >           mess$ = "NO match found!"
> > >           @draw_status(mess$,red,35)
> > >         ENDIF
> > >         IF flg1! THEN GOTO next_dial
> > >       ENDIF
> > >     ENDIF
> > >   CASE 2
> > >     subtit$ = "Manual Dial"
> > >     info$ = "(phone number can include '-')"
> > >     prompt$ = "Enter Telephone number: "
> > >     ln& = 16
> > >     @file_call("")
> > >     IF strng$ = ""
> > >       @beep
> > >     ELSE
> > >       CLR temp$
> > >       @make_call
> > >     ENDIF
> > >   CASE 3
> > >     subtit$ = "Modem Setup"
> > >     @phone_setup
> > >   CASE 4
> > >     @draw_status2("Modem reset!",red)
> > >     @Modem_reset
> > >     @draw_status("Modem ready!",blue,18)
> > >   ENDSELECT
> > >   DEFMOUSE 0
> > > RETURN
> > > '
> > > PROCEDURE make_call
> > >   @bell
> > >   mess$ = "Call " + temp$ + " ... " + strng$ +
> "?"
> > >   j =
> ^bwccMessageBox(hWndMain&,mess$,title$,style4)
> > >   IF j = IDYES
> > >     temp$ = dial$ + strng$ + CHR$(13)
> > >     FOR i = 1 TO LEN(temp$)
> > >       x| = ASC(MID$(temp$,i,1))
> > >       j = TransmitCommChar(port|,x|)
> > >       PAUSE 1
> > >     NEXT i
> > >     mess$ = "Pick up the phone, click on OK or
> press
> > > [Enter]!"
> > >    
> ~^bwccMessageBox(hWndMain&,mess$,title$,style3)
> > >     @Modem_reset
> > >   ELSE IF j = IDNO
> > >     flg1! = TRUE
> > >     @beep
> > >   ELSE
> > >     @beep
> > >   ENDIF
> > > RETURN
> > > '
> > > PROCEDURE Modem_reset
> > >   i = EscapeCommFunction(port|,CLRDTR)  /* drop
> DTR
> > > line
> > >   PAUSE 9
> > >   i = EscapeCommFunction(port|,SETDTR)  /* raise
> DTR
> > > line - MUST be twice
> > >   i = EscapeCommFunction(port|,SETRTS)  /* raise
> RTS
> > > line
> > >   PAUSE 9
> > > RETURN
> > > '
> > >                                    -->Bev<--
> > > 
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Tom Record"
> > > <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net>
> > > To: <gfabasic@gfa.net>
> > > Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2000 2:47 AM
> > > Subject: [gfabasic] com & dialing
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > List Member Tom Record
> > > <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net>
> wrote:
> > > > Has anybody done a dialer yet?  Just a simple
> > > phone dialer?  16-bit, of
> > > course.
> > > > I have several from around the world, but none
> > > seems to want to work w/ my
> > > 56k
> > > > modem.  Not really critical, but would be very
> > > helpful.
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > > <G>
> > > > TomR.
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> > dial$ = "ATDT ",port|=1
> 
> PROCEDURE dialer(test|)
> SELECT test|
> CASE 1
> subtit$ = "Auto Dial"
> IF !cnt
> @no_data
> ELSE
> info$ = "(will find EACH match in order)"
> prompt$ = "Enter Name: "
> ln& = 30
> @file_call("")
> IF strng$ = ""
> @beep
> ELSE
> CLR ctr,chk
> match$ = LOWER$(strng$)
> next_dial:
> DEFMOUSE 2
> mess$ = "Checking ... Item #"
> @Statusbar
> REPEAT
> ctr ++
> @draw_status2(mess$ + STR$(ctr),blue)
> chk = INSTR(LOWER$(MID$(txt$(ctr -
> 1),1,ln&)),match$)
> EXIT IF chk
> UNTIL ctr = cnt
> @status2_off
> DEFMOUSE 0
> flg1! = FALSE
> IF chk
> temp$ = TRIM$(LEFT$(txt$(ctr - 1),30))
> strng$ = TRIM$(RIGHT$(txt$(ctr - 1),16))
> @make_call
> ELSE
> @beep
> @Statusbar
> mess$ = "NO match found!"
> @draw_status(mess$,red,35)
> ENDIF
> IF flg1! THEN GOTO next_dial
> ENDIF
> ENDIF
> CASE 2
> subtit$ = "Manual Dial"
> info$ = "(phone number can include '-')"
> prompt$ = "Enter Telephone number: "
> ln& = 16
> @file_call("")
> IF strng$ = ""
> @beep
> ELSE
> CLR temp$
> @make_call
> ENDIF
> CASE 3
> subtit$ = "Modem Setup"
> @phone_setup
> CASE 4
> @draw_status2("Modem reset!",red)
> @Modem_reset
> @draw_status("Modem ready!",blue,18)
> ENDSELECT
> DEFMOUSE 0
> RETURN
> '
> PROCEDURE make_call
> @bell
> mess$ = "Call " + temp$ + " ... " + strng$ + "?"
> j = ^bwccMessageBox(hWndMain&,mess$,title$,style4)
> IF j = IDYES
> temp$ = dial$ + strng$ + CHR$(13)
> FOR i = 1 TO LEN(temp$)
> x| = ASC(MID$(temp$,i,1))
> j = TransmitCommChar(port|,x|)
> PAUSE 1
> NEXT i
> mess$ = "Pick up the phone, click on OK or press
> [Enter]!"
> ~^bwccMessageBox(hWndMain&,mess$,title$,style3)
> @Modem_reset
> ELSE IF j = IDNO
> flg1! = TRUE
> @beep
> ELSE
> @beep
> ENDIF
> RETURN
> '
> PROCEDURE Modem_reset
> i = EscapeCommFunction(port|,CLRDTR) /* drop DTR
> line
> PAUSE 9
> i = EscapeCommFunction(port|,SETDTR) /* raise DTR
> line - MUST be twice
> i = EscapeCommFunction(port|,SETRTS) /* raise RTS
> line
> PAUSE 9
> RETURN
> 
> 


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Subject: [gfabasic] opposite colors
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
This doesn't seem to work.  I was under the impression that thru Win95, color
was handled as 24-bit, but what do I know?  That looks like the right number
for 24-bit, but again... what do I know?

  /* vertical
  FOR i& = qp2& TO cy& /* y plane
    FOR j& = 0 TO cx& - 1 STEP qp1& /* x plane
      dwColor% = GetPixel(hdc&,j&,i&)
      nRed% = GetRValue(dwColor%)
      nGreen% = GetGValue(dwColor%)
      nBlue% = GetBValue(dwColor%)
      OppositeCol% = 16777215 - RGB(nRed%,nGreen%,nBlue%)
/* I almost think this should use dwColor% instead of the RGB()
      nR% = GetRValue(OppositeCol%)
      nG% = GetGValue(OppositeCol%)
      nB% = GetBValue(OppositeCol%)
      ~SetPixel(hdc&,j&,i&,RGB(nR%,nG%,nB%))
    NEXT j&
  NEXT i&

This does, but isn't opposite colors:

  /*  horz gridlines
  FOR j& = 0 TO cx& /* x plane
    FOR i& = qp2& TO cx& - 1 STEP qp2& /* y plane
      dwColor% = GetPixel(hdc&,j&,i&)
      nRed% = GetRValue(dwColor%)
      nRed% = nRed% + 100
      IF nRed% > 255 THEN nRed% = nRed% - 255
      nGreen% = GetGValue(dwColor%)
      nGreen% = nGreen% + 100
      IF nGreen% > 255 THEN nGreen% = nGreen% - 255
      nBlue% = GetBValue(dwColor%)
      nBlue% = nBlue% + 100
      IF nBlue% > 255 THEN nBlue% = nBlue% - 255
      ~SetPixel(hdc&,j&,i&,RGB(nRed%,nGreen%,nBlue%))
    NEXT i&
  NEXT j&
RETURN

The shift of 100 *does* make the lines obvious, but...  You'll note that both,
vert & horz are here.  Only the vert has been modified with Russ's contribution
& I've apparently done *that* wrong.  cx& & cy& are GETDEVCAPS(), qp1& & qp2&
are cx& & cy& divided by 7 (It's a calendar layout).  Prints a "transparent" 7x6
grid over a fullscreen image w/ a wide band at the top for other goodies.

I'm working on 3 font styles for it... normal, outlined & shadowed in 3 or 4 
different fonts.  They will scale, & appear in that OppositeCol%.  Make
sense now?
Something I found a couple of years ago provides the basic styles routine.
There
is no author's name in it.  Pity, 'cause it's a sound routine.

The fonts will be in a *.res file eventually.

My mind is wearing thin, thin, thin, thin!

TomR.

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
David
In everything else in the world, EOF(1) is EndOfFile(buffer1).
TomR.


At 11:19 AM 07/07/00 -0700, you wrote:
>List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
>OK, thanks !
>
>Oh in QBasic to dial a # its:
>
>DEFINT A-Z
>OPEN "COM4:19200,N,8,1" AS #1
>INPUT "# to dial:",N$
>IF N$ = "" THEN END
>' ^ No need to say CLOSE for COM port, QBee
>    closes all open files
>PRINT #1,N$
>DO
>  IF EOF(1)=0 THEN PRINT INPUT$(1,1);
>LOOP UNTIL INKEY$ > ""
>- - -
>
>Is there an equivalent to this in GFA ?
>
>The above code won't work as it is.
>
>Sincerely,
>David W.
>
>--- Bev Brown <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
>> Here it is in plain text form!
>> 
>>                                    -->Bev<--
>> 
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "David Wicker" <dw817@yahoo.com>
>> To: <gfabasic@gfa.net>
>> Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2000 9:40 AM
>> Subject: Re: [gfabasic] com & dialing
>> 
>> 
>> > List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> > Greets Bev:
>> > 
>> > Could you post that please as a binary attachment
>> ?
>> > It's got lines that wrap incorrect with ASCII
>> > insertion.
>> > 
>> > Thanks !
>> > 
>> > Sincerely,
>> > David W.
>> > 
>> > --- Bev Brown <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
>> > > List Member "Bev Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com>
>> > > wrote:
>> > > Hi Tom:
>> > > 
>> > > Here's a routine that might help; hope you can
>> > > figure it out!
>> > > 
>> > > dial$ = "ATDT ",port|=1
>> > > PROCEDURE dialer(test|)
>> > >   SELECT test|
>> > >   CASE 1
>> > >     subtit$ = "Auto Dial"
>> > >     IF !cnt
>> > >       @no_data
>> > >     ELSE
>> > >       info$ = "(will find EACH match in order)"
>> > >       prompt$ = "Enter Name: "
>> > >       ln& = 30
>> > >       @file_call("")
>> > >       IF strng$ = ""
>> > >         @beep
>> > >       ELSE
>> > >         CLR ctr,chk
>> > >         match$ = LOWER$(strng$)
>> > >         next_dial:
>> > >         DEFMOUSE 2
>> > >         mess$ = "Checking ... Item #"
>> > >         @Statusbar
>> > >         REPEAT
>> > >           ctr ++
>> > >           @draw_status2(mess$ + STR$(ctr),blue)
>> > >           chk = INSTR(LOWER$(MID$(txt$(ctr -
>> > > 1),1,ln&)),match$)
>> > >           EXIT IF chk
>> > >         UNTIL ctr = cnt
>> > >         @status2_off
>> > >         DEFMOUSE 0
>> > >         flg1! = FALSE
>> > >         IF chk
>> > >           temp$ = TRIM$(LEFT$(txt$(ctr - 1),30))
>> > >           strng$ = TRIM$(RIGHT$(txt$(ctr -
>> 1),16))
>> > >           @make_call
>> > >         ELSE
>> > >           @beep
>> > >           @Statusbar
>> > >           mess$ = "NO match found!"
>> > >           @draw_status(mess$,red,35)
>> > >         ENDIF
>> > >         IF flg1! THEN GOTO next_dial
>> > >       ENDIF
>> > >     ENDIF
>> > >   CASE 2
>> > >     subtit$ = "Manual Dial"
>> > >     info$ = "(phone number can include '-')"
>> > >     prompt$ = "Enter Telephone number: "
>> > >     ln& = 16
>> > >     @file_call("")
>> > >     IF strng$ = ""
>> > >       @beep
>> > >     ELSE
>> > >       CLR temp$
>> > >       @make_call
>> > >     ENDIF
>> > >   CASE 3
>> > >     subtit$ = "Modem Setup"
>> > >     @phone_setup
>> > >   CASE 4
>> > >     @draw_status2("Modem reset!",red)
>> > >     @Modem_reset
>> > >     @draw_status("Modem ready!",blue,18)
>> > >   ENDSELECT
>> > >   DEFMOUSE 0
>> > > RETURN
>> > > '
>> > > PROCEDURE make_call
>> > >   @bell
>> > >   mess$ = "Call " + temp$ + " ... " + strng$ +
>> "?"
>> > >   j =
>> ^bwccMessageBox(hWndMain&,mess$,title$,style4)
>> > >   IF j = IDYES
>> > >     temp$ = dial$ + strng$ + CHR$(13)
>> > >     FOR i = 1 TO LEN(temp$)
>> > >       x| = ASC(MID$(temp$,i,1))
>> > >       j = TransmitCommChar(port|,x|)
>> > >       PAUSE 1
>> > >     NEXT i
>> > >     mess$ = "Pick up the phone, click on OK or
>> press
>> > > [Enter]!"
>> > >    
>> ~^bwccMessageBox(hWndMain&,mess$,title$,style3)
>> > >     @Modem_reset
>> > >   ELSE IF j = IDNO
>> > >     flg1! = TRUE
>> > >     @beep
>> > >   ELSE
>> > >     @beep
>> > >   ENDIF
>> > > RETURN
>> > > '
>> > > PROCEDURE Modem_reset
>> > >   i = EscapeCommFunction(port|,CLRDTR)  /* drop
>> DTR
>> > > line
>> > >   PAUSE 9
>> > >   i = EscapeCommFunction(port|,SETDTR)  /* raise
>> DTR
>> > > line - MUST be twice
>> > >   i = EscapeCommFunction(port|,SETRTS)  /* raise
>> RTS
>> > > line
>> > >   PAUSE 9
>> > > RETURN
>> > > '
>> > >                                    -->Bev<--
>> > > 
>> > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > From: "Tom Record"
>> > > <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net>
>> > > To: <gfabasic@gfa.net>
>> > > Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2000 2:47 AM
>> > > Subject: [gfabasic] com & dialing
>> > > 
>> > > 
>> > > > List Member Tom Record
>> > > <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net>
>> wrote:
>> > > > Has anybody done a dialer yet?  Just a simple
>> > > phone dialer?  16-bit, of
>> > > course.
>> > > > I have several from around the world, but none
>> > > seems to want to work w/ my
>> > > 56k
>> > > > modem.  Not really critical, but would be very
>> > > helpful.
>> > > > Thanks
>> > > >
>> > > > <G>
>> > > > TomR.
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>> > dial$ = "ATDT ",port|=1
>> 
>> PROCEDURE dialer(test|)
>> SELECT test|
>> CASE 1
>> subtit$ = "Auto Dial"
>> IF !cnt
>> @no_data
>> ELSE
>> info$ = "(will find EACH match in order)"
>> prompt$ = "Enter Name: "
>> ln& = 30
>> @file_call("")
>> IF strng$ = ""
>> @beep
>> ELSE
>> CLR ctr,chk
>> match$ = LOWER$(strng$)
>> next_dial:
>> DEFMOUSE 2
>> mess$ = "Checking ... Item #"
>> @Statusbar
>> REPEAT
>> ctr ++
>> @draw_status2(mess$ + STR$(ctr),blue)
>> chk = INSTR(LOWER$(MID$(txt$(ctr -
>> 1),1,ln&)),match$)
>> EXIT IF chk
>> UNTIL ctr = cnt
>> @status2_off
>> DEFMOUSE 0
>> flg1! = FALSE
>> IF chk
>> temp$ = TRIM$(LEFT$(txt$(ctr - 1),30))
>> strng$ = TRIM$(RIGHT$(txt$(ctr - 1),16))
>> @make_call
>> ELSE
>> @beep
>> @Statusbar
>> mess$ = "NO match found!"
>> @draw_status(mess$,red,35)
>> ENDIF
>> IF flg1! THEN GOTO next_dial
>> ENDIF
>> ENDIF
>> CASE 2
>> subtit$ = "Manual Dial"
>> info$ = "(phone number can include '-')"
>> prompt$ = "Enter Telephone number: "
>> ln& = 16
>> @file_call("")
>> IF strng$ = ""
>> @beep
>> ELSE
>> CLR temp$
>> @make_call
>> ENDIF
>> CASE 3
>> subtit$ = "Modem Setup"
>> @phone_setup
>> CASE 4
>> @draw_status2("Modem reset!",red)
>> @Modem_reset
>> @draw_status("Modem ready!",blue,18)
>> ENDSELECT
>> DEFMOUSE 0
>> RETURN
>> '
>> PROCEDURE make_call
>> @bell
>> mess$ = "Call " + temp$ + " ... " + strng$ + "?"
>> j = ^bwccMessageBox(hWndMain&,mess$,title$,style4)
>> IF j = IDYES
>> temp$ = dial$ + strng$ + CHR$(13)
>> FOR i = 1 TO LEN(temp$)
>> x| = ASC(MID$(temp$,i,1))
>> j = TransmitCommChar(port|,x|)
>> PAUSE 1
>> NEXT i
>> mess$ = "Pick up the phone, click on OK or press
>> [Enter]!"
>> ~^bwccMessageBox(hWndMain&,mess$,title$,style3)
>> @Modem_reset
>> ELSE IF j = IDNO
>> flg1! = TRUE
>> @beep
>> ELSE
>> @beep
>> ENDIF
>> RETURN
>> '
>> PROCEDURE Modem_reset
>> i = EscapeCommFunction(port|,CLRDTR) /* drop DTR
>> line
>> PAUSE 9
>> i = EscapeCommFunction(port|,SETDTR) /* raise DTR
>> line - MUST be twice
>> i = EscapeCommFunction(port|,SETRTS) /* raise RTS
>> line
>> PAUSE 9
>> RETURN
>> 
>> 
>
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:

--- Tom Record
<tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> David
> In everything else in the world, EOF(1) is
> EndOfFile(buffer1).
> TomR.

I don't see EndOfFile being a command.
No, EOF works fine, I was just wondering about
the COM2:19200,N,8,1 which doesn't seem to work.
Is there a different way to open and access the COM
port that is just about or all most as easy ?

Sincerely,
David W.


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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Greets Tom:

If you just want colors for smart edging, you can
use \2 for half brite.

Adding 128 is more correct to "lightening" a color,
but if you just want to FLIP the brite level, you may
need to do the 255 - R/G/B thingie, it's what I
use for true absolute reverse, the Mir\ror in the
rough.  :)

If you are determined to stay on a bit level and just
wanna make sure the color is brite, light that 8th
bit every time.

R = BSET(R,7)

Remember, it does #s 0-7 for bits 1-8

If you want to negate all including black, you can
use NOTSRCCOPY .

- - -

Hope This Helps !

Sincerely,
David W.


> I'm working on 3 font styles for it... normal,
> outlined & shadowed in 3 or 4 
> different fonts.  They will scale, & appear in that
> OppositeCol%.  Make
> sense now?
> Something I found a couple of years ago provides the
> basic styles routine.
> There
> is no author's name in it.  Pity, 'cause it's a
> sound routine.
> 
> The fonts will be in a *.res file eventually.
> 
> My mind is wearing thin, thin, thin, thin!
> 
> TomR.



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List Member "Russell Hayward" <russ@softhome.net> wrote:

Hi Tom,

> This doesn't seem to work.  I was under the impression that thru Win95,
color
> was handled as 24-bit, but what do I know?  That looks like the right
number
> for 24-bit, but again... what do I know?

I'm a bit confused, I don't see how doing 16777215-RGB(?,?,?) can give
anything but the inverted colour, it is the equivilent of
RGB(255,255,255)-RGB(?,?,?):

16777215-RGB(155,105,55) = RGB(100,150,200)
16777215-RGB(255,0,0) = RGB(0,255,255)

Is this not the effect you want?

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List Member "Russell Hayward" <russ@softhome.net> wrote:

Hi David,

> Huum..  Then does  C=GetPixel(R,G,B)  also use
> RGB 888 or is that monitor dependent.

Yes, GetPixel always returns the colour in the format RGB 888. Any API
command listed as returning a COLORREF returns an RGB 888 value.

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List Member Pat Bullman <pbullman@norex.com.au> wrote:
David,

Under Window's, all COM support is provided by several low-level functions
(summarised below).  I used them many years ago and, from memory, they're
not that difficult to work with.

BuildCommDCB			Translates a device-definition string to a DCB 
ClearCommBreak		Restores character transmission 
CloseComm			Closes a communications device 
EnableCommNotification	Enables or disables WM_COMMNOTIFY posting 
EscapeCommFunction		Passes an extended function to a device 
FlushComm			Flushes a transmission or receiving queue 
GetCommError			Retrieves the communications-device status 
GetCommEventMask		Retrieves the device event word 
GetCommState			Retrieves the device control block 
OpenComm			Opens a communications device 
ReadComm			Reads from a communications device 
SetCommBreak			Suspends character transmission 
SetCommEventMask		Enables events in a device event word 
SetCommState			Sets the communications-device state 
TransmitCommChar		Places a character in the transmission queue 
UngetCommChar			Puts a character back in the receiving queue 
WriteComm			Writes to a communications device 


Pat


At 15:48 07/07/00 -0700, you wrote:
>List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>--- Tom Record
><tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> List Member Tom Record
>> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> David
>> In everything else in the world, EOF(1) is
>> EndOfFile(buffer1).
>> TomR.
>
>I don't see EndOfFile being a command.
>No, EOF works fine, I was just wondering about
>the COM2:19200,N,8,1 which doesn't seem to work.
>Is there a different way to open and access the COM
>port that is just about or all most as easy ?
>
>Sincerely,
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Greets Russell:

Okay by RGB 888 does this mean there are only
8 (1-8) or 9 (0-8) brightness levels for the
color returned back ?

A little confused..

Sincerely,
David W.

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> Hi David,
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> > Huum..  Then does  C=3DGetPixel(R,G,B)  also use
> > RGB 888 or is that monitor dependent.
>=20
> Yes, GetPixel always returns the colour in the
> format RGB 888. Any API
> command listed as returning a COLORREF returns an
> RGB 888 value.
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
(Definitely I have bitten off more then I can chew)
:)

Okay Russell now that I'm =3DREALLY=3D confused I guess
I can ask this.

Is there a simple sourcecode in GFA that does
terminal ?  That is you can type ATDT and a phone #
in it and it can dial it and if it is a 7-bit BBS
it will link up and let you chat and send files and
stuff.

With the advent of the Internet this is prolly well
behind us and perhaps I should be more concerned with
how to access the phone line at an internet level.

(Yah right - I'm not gonna tackle that!)

Nemmind, I wanna learn how to write Shockwave games
now.  :)

Sincerely,
David W.

Sign me fleet of mind
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> Under Window's, all COM support is provided by
> several low-level functions
> (summarised below).  I used them many years ago and,
> from memory, they're
> not that difficult to work with.
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> BuildCommDCB			Translates a device-definition string
> to a DCB=20
> ClearCommBreak		Restores character transmission=20
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> EnableCommNotification	Enables or disables
> WM_COMMNOTIFY posting=20
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> device=20
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> queue=20
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> status=20
> GetCommEventMask		Retrieves the device event word=20
> GetCommState			Retrieves the device control block=20
> OpenComm			Opens a communications device=20
> ReadComm			Reads from a communications device=20
> SetCommBreak			Suspends character transmission=20
> SetCommEventMask		Enables events in a device event
> word=20
> SetCommState			Sets the communications-device state=20
> TransmitCommChar		Places a character in the
> transmission queue=20
> UngetCommChar			Puts a character back in the
> receiving queue=20
> WriteComm			Writes to a communications device=20
>=20
>=20
> Pat
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> At 15:48 07/07/00 -0700, you wrote:
> >List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >--- Tom Record
> ><tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
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> >> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net>
> wrote:
> >> David
> >> In everything else in the world, EOF(1) is
> >> EndOfFile(buffer1).
> >> TomR.
> >
> >I don't see EndOfFile being a command.
> >No, EOF works fine, I was just wondering about
> >the COM2:19200,N,8,1 which doesn't seem to work.
> >Is there a different way to open and access the COM
> >port that is just about or all most as easy ?
> >
> >Sincerely,
> >David W.
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
I've misplaced one manual (it probably isn't in it anyway!).

I need to be able to catch strikeout & underline from DLGFONT.  I *think* this
has all been worked out before, but I can't find it anywhere.

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List Member "John Findlay" <John.Findlay@Byte-it.net> wrote:
> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net>

I guess the question is, what do you consider to be opposite?

Using the method that Russell suggested;

OPENW #1
RGBCOLOR RGB(255, 0, 255)
PCIRCLE 40, 40, 30
FOR x% = 0 TO 59
  FOR y% = 0 TO 59
    ~SetPixel(_DC(1), x%, y%, $FFFFFF - GetPixel(_DC(1), x%, y%))
  NEXT y%
NEXT x%
KEYGET i%
CLOSEW #1

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Wellllll......  John, it works *some* of the time <G>.

The changes are NOT the actual opposite except for Black & White.
All others so goofy, but alright.  It isn't an exact science <G>.

I tried it in *my* routine:
cx&=screenwidth, cy&=screenheight, qp1&=cx&/7, qp2&=cy&/7... calendar grid
PROCEDURE Grid
  /* vertical
  FOR i& = qp2& TO cy& /* y plane
    FOR j& = 0 TO cx& - 1 STEP qp1& /* x plane
      ~SetPixel(_DC(1),j&,i&, $FFFFFF - GetPixel(_DC(1),j&,i&))
    NEXT j&
  NEXT i&

  j& = 0,i& = 0

  /*  horz gridlines
  FOR j& = 0 TO cx& /* x plane
    FOR i& = qp2& TO cx& - 1 STEP qp2& /* y plane
      ~SetPixel(_DC(1),j&,i&, $FFFFFF - GetPixel(_DC(1),j&,i&))
    NEXT i&
  NEXT j&
RETURN

& it stinks just a badly as mine did.  Black goes to lite gray, white to a
darker
gray.  All else... some sort of gray.  I'm using it over a 24-bit *.jpg, so it
isn't really being fair, I suppose <G>.

This has to be just about the only way I hadn't tried.  I'd NOT have guessed
this
would be the way.
<G>
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List Member "Russell Hayward" <russ@softhome.net> wrote:

Hi David,

> Okay by RGB 888 does this mean there are only
> 8 (1-8) or 9 (0-8) brightness levels for the
> color returned back ?

No, RGB 888 means 8 bits for red, blue and green, a number between 0 and
255.

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Hi David,

> Okay Russell now that I'm =REALLY= confused I guess
> I can ask this.
>
> Is there a simple sourcecode in GFA that does
> terminal ?  That is you can type ATDT and a phone #
> in it and it can dial it and if it is a 7-bit BBS
> it will link up and let you chat and send files and
> stuff.

Sorry, don't know anything about that, maybe you should ask Pat who answered
your last question.

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List Member "John Findlay" <John.Findlay@Byte-it.net> wrote:
> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Wellllll......  John, it works *some* of the time <G>.

If you are using it only for a grid then lines would suit you better,
surely?

Use ROP codes, perhaps XOR would work. ~SetROP2(_DC(1), R2_NOT)

'START
cx& = _X, cy& = _Y, qp1& = cx& / 7, qp2& = cy& / 7      //... calendar grid
OPENW #1, 0, 0, _X, _Y, -1
FOR t& = 0 TO 70
  RGBCOLOR RGB(RAND(255), RAND(255), RAND(255))
  PCIRCLE RAND(600), RAND(500), RAND(100)
NEXT t&
~SetROP2(_DC(1), R2_NOT)
Grid   // Draw Grid
DELAY 2
Grid   // Erase Grid
KEYGET i%
CLOSEW #1

PROCEDURE Grid

  FOR i& = qp2& TO cy& STEP qp2&
    LINE i&, 0, i&, 600
  NEXT i&

  FOR j& = 0 TO cy& - 1 STEP qp1&
    LINE 0, j&, 600, j&
  NEXT j&

RETURN
'END

Regards,

John


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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Tom, regarding strikeout and underline, all it is
a line right ?

IF Underline! OR Strikeout!
  Y =3D V * 12 + 11 - 6 * -StrikeOut!
  LINE H*8,Y,H*8+7,Y
END IF

Doodle your own, it's easier.  :)

Sincerely,
David W.

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> anyway!).
>=20
> I need to be able to catch strikeout & underline
> from DLGFONT.  I *think* this
> has all been worked out before, but I can't find it
> anywhere.
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> <G>
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Huum..  Lemme have a crack at it Tom, we gotta
clean slate right ??

PROCEDURE InvPixel(H,V)
  LOCAL C=3DGetPixel(_DC(),H,V)
  ~SetPixel(_DC(),H,V,255-GetRValue(C), -->
            255-GetGValue(C),255-GetBValue(C))
RETURN

Howzzat ?  :)

Sincerely,
David W.

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> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Wellllll......  John, it works *some* of the time
> <G>.
>=20
> The changes are NOT the actual opposite except for
> Black & White.
> All others so goofy, but alright.  It isn't an exact
> science <G>.
>=20
> I tried it in *my* routine:
> cx&=3Dscreenwidth, cy&=3Dscreenheight, qp1&=3Dcx&/7,
> qp2&=3Dcy&/7... calendar grid
> PROCEDURE Grid
>   /* vertical
>   FOR i& =3D qp2& TO cy& /* y plane
>     FOR j& =3D 0 TO cx& - 1 STEP qp1& /* x plane
>       ~SetPixel(_DC(1),j&,i&, $FFFFFF -
> GetPixel(_DC(1),j&,i&))
>     NEXT j&
>   NEXT i&
>=20
>   j& =3D 0,i& =3D 0
>=20
>   /*  horz gridlines
>   FOR j& =3D 0 TO cx& /* x plane
>     FOR i& =3D qp2& TO cx& - 1 STEP qp2& /* y plane
>       ~SetPixel(_DC(1),j&,i&, $FFFFFF -
> GetPixel(_DC(1),j&,i&))
>     NEXT i&
>   NEXT j&
> RETURN
>=20
> & it stinks just a badly as mine did.  Black goes to
> lite gray, white to a
> darker
> gray.  All else... some sort of gray.  I'm using it
> over a 24-bit *.jpg, so it
> isn't really being fair, I suppose <G>.
>=20
> This has to be just about the only way I hadn't
> tried.  I'd NOT have guessed
> this
> would be the way.
> <G>
> TomR.
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hi David,
> No, RGB 888 means 8 bits for red, blue and green, a
> number between 0 and
> 255.
>=20
> Russ

8 bits =3D 0-255

Okay Gotcha..  :)

Shock Machine Wizard Importer
should be done and posted TODAY
maybe Tomorrow if Rose comes to visit earlier
then noon.. (Maybe..Smile!)

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Well..  I'm not going to fight it now.
Hey they put ALL kinds of neat things in your
Internet cache they don't want ya to have !

I gotta nice little collection of Shockwave games
that can "only" be played when you are ONLINE on the
Internet.  You can nip out troublesome pix and MIDI
this way too !

Sincerely,
David W.

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> Hi David,
>=20
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> > I can ask this.
> >
> > Is there a simple sourcecode in GFA that does
> > terminal ?  That is you can type ATDT and a phone
> #
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> > it will link up and let you chat and send files
> and
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> should ask Pat who answered
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John Findlay schrieb:

> List Member "John Findlay" <John.Findlay@Byte-it.net> wrote:
> > List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net>
>
> I guess the question is, what do you consider to be opposite?
>
> Using the method that Russell suggested;
>
> OPENW #1
> RGBCOLOR RGB(255, 0, 255)
> PCIRCLE 40, 40, 30
> FOR x% = 0 TO 59
>   FOR y% = 0 TO 59
>     ~SetPixel(_DC(1), x%, y%, $FFFFFF - GetPixel(_DC(1), x%, y%))
>   NEXT y%
> NEXT x%
> KEYGET i%
> CLOSEW #1
>

The shorter and faster way:

OPENW #1
RGBCOLOR RGB(255, 0, 255)
PCIRCLE 40, 40, 30
RGBCOLOR $FFFFFF
~PatBlt(_DC(1),0,0,60,60,PATINVERT)
KEYGET i%
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> John Findlay schrieb:
> The shorter and faster way:
>=20
> OPENW #1
> RGBCOLOR RGB(255, 0, 255)
> PCIRCLE 40, 40, 30
> RGBCOLOR $FFFFFF
> ~PatBlt(_DC(1),0,0,60,60,PATINVERT)
> KEYGET i%
> CLOSEW #1

That's a good way John !

You can all so pop those 2 lines of RGBCOLOR & PatBlt
to one line of:

BITBLT _DC(),0,0,60,60,_DC(),0,0,DSTINVERT

If you're not worried about your screen types &
stuff you can use:

INVERT WIND_GET(4),WIND_GET(5),60,60

and you don't change colors too with the two ways
of BITBLT and INVERT !  :)

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
David
Crash & burn.
I'm too groggy to understand much or do anything about what I don't=
 understand.
Back to it later.  Thanks for sending.
<G>
TomR.


At 07:12 AM 08/07/00 -0700, you wrote:
>List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Huum..  Lemme have a crack at it Tom, we gotta
>clean slate right ??
>
>PROCEDURE InvPixel(H,V)
>  LOCAL C=3DGetPixel(_DC(),H,V)
>  ~SetPixel(_DC(),H,V,255-GetRValue(C), -->
>            255-GetGValue(C),255-GetBValue(C))
>RETURN
>
>Howzzat ?  :)
>
>Sincerely,
>David W.
>
>--- Tom Record
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>> List Member Tom Record
>> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> Wellllll......  John, it works *some* of the time
>> <G>.
>>=20
>> The changes are NOT the actual opposite except for
>> Black & White.
>> All others so goofy, but alright.  It isn't an exact
>> science <G>.
>>=20
>> I tried it in *my* routine:
>> cx&=3Dscreenwidth, cy&=3Dscreenheight, qp1&=3Dcx&/7,
>> qp2&=3Dcy&/7... calendar grid
>> PROCEDURE Grid
>>   /* vertical
>>   FOR i& =3D qp2& TO cy& /* y plane
>>     FOR j& =3D 0 TO cx& - 1 STEP qp1& /* x plane
>>       ~SetPixel(_DC(1),j&,i&, $FFFFFF -
>> GetPixel(_DC(1),j&,i&))
>>     NEXT j&
>>   NEXT i&
>>=20
>>   j& =3D 0,i& =3D 0
>>=20
>>   /*  horz gridlines
>>   FOR j& =3D 0 TO cx& /* x plane
>>     FOR i& =3D qp2& TO cx& - 1 STEP qp2& /* y plane
>>       ~SetPixel(_DC(1),j&,i&, $FFFFFF -
>> GetPixel(_DC(1),j&,i&))
>>     NEXT i&
>>   NEXT j&
>> RETURN
>>=20
>> & it stinks just a badly as mine did.  Black goes to
>> lite gray, white to a
>> darker
>> gray.  All else... some sort of gray.  I'm using it
>> over a 24-bit *.jpg, so it
>> isn't really being fair, I suppose <G>.
>>=20
>> This has to be just about the only way I hadn't
>> tried.  I'd NOT have guessed
>> this
>> would be the way.
>> <G>
>> TomR.
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Lightning fast!  Thanks!
<G>
TomR.


At 05:05 PM 08/07/00 +0200, you wrote:
>List Member "franz-xaver.schweiger@debitel.net"
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>
>John Findlay schrieb:
>
>> List Member "John Findlay" <John.Findlay@Byte-it.net> wrote:
>> > List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net>
>>
>> I guess the question is, what do you consider to be opposite?
>>
>> Using the method that Russell suggested;
>>
>> OPENW #1
>> RGBCOLOR RGB(255, 0, 255)
>> PCIRCLE 40, 40, 30
>> FOR x% = 0 TO 59
>>   FOR y% = 0 TO 59
>>     ~SetPixel(_DC(1), x%, y%, $FFFFFF - GetPixel(_DC(1), x%, y%))
>>   NEXT y%
>> NEXT x%
>> KEYGET i%
>> CLOSEW #1
>>
>
>The shorter and faster way:
>
>OPENW #1
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>PCIRCLE 40, 40, 30
>RGBCOLOR $FFFFFF
>~PatBlt(_DC(1),0,0,60,60,PATINVERT)
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>CLOSEW #1
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David
I'm certainly NOT gonna argue w/ you on *this*.
<G>
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At 07:05 AM 08/07/00 -0700, you wrote:
>List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Tom, regarding strikeout and underline, all it is
>a line right ?
>
>IF Underline! OR Strikeout!
>  Y =3D V * 12 + 11 - 6 * -StrikeOut!
>  LINE H*8,Y,H*8+7,Y
>END IF
>
>Doodle your own, it's easier.  :)
>
>Sincerely,
>David W.
>
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>> anyway!).
>>=20
>> I need to be able to catch strikeout & underline
>> from DLGFONT.  I *think* this
>> has all been worked out before, but I can't find it
>> anywhere.
>>=20
>> <G>
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--- Tom Record=20
> David
> I'm certainly NOT gonna argue w/ you on *this*.
> <G>
> TomR.
>=20

Yah well maybe I am awfully stubborn sometimes..
You DO know I really don't know how to program all
that C++ structure stuff and maybe not now but later
it will catch up with me.  :)

Well what can I say but I am amused to bits about the
simple protections web pages put on their Shockwave
toys to prevent others from playing them.  I know I
know I said that Shockwave Wizard Importer gets them
and it does, but if some-one doesn't knowing too
much about the computer all-ready then maybe this
program might be hard for them to use.

Finishing it up !  :)

Sincerely,
David W.

The Sailor Moon Shockwave game I downloaded is
tactical and on hexgrids ??  What are these Sailor
Moon fans supposed to be military generals or
something ??  Where's the EASY games huuum ??


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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> List Member Tom Record
> David
> Crash & burn.
> I'm too groggy to understand much or do anything
> about what I don't understand.
> Back to it later.  Thanks for sending.
> <G>
> TomR.
>=20

Huum ??  That bad huuh ??  :)
Use the BITBLT or INVERT if you're doing a lotta
pixels.  I didn't know if you we're gonna do a dot
at a time or whole biggo rectangles & stuff..

The PatBlt is good too !  One I didn't think of.

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Just visited your webpage and on my return after adding it to favorites I
found that an icon replaces the standard icon. If you don't mind could you
explain how?

BTW i enjoyed your page.

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hello ??

I think you're the first person outside of GFA
to say anything nice about my page.  Thank you !  :)

Ahmm..  I'm not that Win98 savvy.
What icon is getting replaced ?
I doodled a little Pyramax pyramid for default
icon for my GFA .EXEs, I think that's it right ?

If you haven't all ready done so check-out
Fireworks and Parallax Stage 2 in GFAToys
they are the newest additions.

Shockwave Engine Importer Wizard
is being rapidly finished should be done
to-morrow, and Cherry Miya in Fruity Jam
arcade game will be done after that.

Enjoy !
And THANK YOU for the Email !
I get very little of it.  :)

Do you have a web-page yourself ?

Sincerely,
David W.

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> explain how?
>=20
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
David
I've about given up on "inversion".  I don't get the colors I expect, so it
looks=20
pretty nasty in most images.  I'll stick w/ adding "100" to R, G, & B for
now - it
looks a little off, but NOT as bad as any of the inversion suggestions do.
The main
reason for investigating it was to influence visibility of the text that=
 will be
put over them.
<G>
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>> Crash & burn.
>> I'm too groggy to understand much or do anything
>> about what I don't understand.
>> Back to it later.  Thanks for sending.
>> <G>
>> TomR.
>>=20
>
>Huum ??  That bad huuh ??  :)
>Use the BITBLT or INVERT if you're doing a lotta
>pixels.  I didn't know if you we're gonna do a dot
>at a time or whole biggo rectangles & stuff..
>
>The PatBlt is good too !  One I didn't think of.
>
>Sincerely,
>David W.
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Okay, well Tom there is one last thing.
You can just easily flip the 8th bit of the R/G/B
to either XOR or all ways positive.

This might be a quicker way to add 100 every time
to each of the R/G/B

Sincerely,
David W.

Hey Dale !  I know you were saying nice things a-bout
my page all a-long but this newbie I've never heard
of !  Just how many lurkers do we have in GFAForum ??
:)

--- Tom Record
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> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> David
> I've about given up on "inversion".  I don't get the
> colors I expect, so it
> looks=20
> pretty nasty in most images.  I'll stick w/ adding
> "100" to R, G, & B for
> now - it
> looks a little off, but NOT as bad as any of the
> inversion suggestions do.
> The main
> reason for investigating it was to influence
> visibility of the text that will be
> put over them.
> <G>
> TomR.
>=20
>=20
> At 05:34 PM 09/07/00 -0700, you wrote:
> >List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> List Member Tom Record
> >> David
> >> Crash & burn.
> >> I'm too groggy to understand much or do anything
> >> about what I don't understand.
> >> Back to it later.  Thanks for sending.
> >> <G>
> >> TomR.
> >>=20
> >
> >Huum ??  That bad huuh ??  :)
> >Use the BITBLT or INVERT if you're doing a lotta
> >pixels.  I didn't know if you we're gonna do a dot
> >at a time or whole biggo rectangles & stuff..
> >
> >The PatBlt is good too !  One I didn't think of.
> >
> >Sincerely,
> >David W.
> >
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David,

You were after some code demostating COMmunications in GFA.  I found the
attached amongst some samples.  Looks like it might be what you're after.

Hope it helps!  

Pat



At 11:19 07/07/00 -0700, you wrote:
>List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
>OK, thanks !
>
>Oh in QBasic to dial a # its:
>
>DEFINT A-Z
>OPEN "COM4:19200,N,8,1" AS #1
>INPUT "# to dial:",N$
>IF N$ = "" THEN END
>' ^ No need to say CLOSE for COM port, QBee
>    closes all open files
>PRINT #1,N$
>DO
>  IF EOF(1)=0 THEN PRINT INPUT$(1,1);
>LOOP UNTIL INKEY$ > ""
>- - -
>
>Is there an equivalent to this in GFA ?
>
>The above code won't work as it is.
>
>Sincerely,
>David W.

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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Hi David,
Some like to just read and some like to read and post. Everyone to their own
taste.
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----- Original Message -----
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To: <gfabasic@gfa.net>
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> List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Okay, well Tom there is one last thing.
> You can just easily flip the 8th bit of the R/G/B
> to either XOR or all ways positive.
>
> This might be a quicker way to add 100 every time
> to each of the R/G/B
>
> Sincerely,
> David W.
>
> Hey Dale !  I know you were saying nice things a-bout
> my page all a-long but this newbie I've never heard
> of !  Just how many lurkers do we have in GFAForum ??
> :)
>
> --- Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> > List Member Tom Record
> > <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> > David
> > I've about given up on "inversion".  I don't get the
> > colors I expect, so it
> > looks
> > pretty nasty in most images.  I'll stick w/ adding
> > "100" to R, G, & B for
> > now - it
> > looks a little off, but NOT as bad as any of the
> > inversion suggestions do.
> > The main
> > reason for investigating it was to influence
> > visibility of the text that will be
> > put over them.
> > <G>
> > TomR.
> >
> >
> > At 05:34 PM 09/07/00 -0700, you wrote:
> > >List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >> List Member Tom Record
> > >> David
> > >> Crash & burn.
> > >> I'm too groggy to understand much or do anything
> > >> about what I don't understand.
> > >> Back to it later.  Thanks for sending.
> > >> <G>
> > >> TomR.
> > >>
> > >
> > >Huum ??  That bad huuh ??  :)
> > >Use the BITBLT or INVERT if you're doing a lotta
> > >pixels.  I didn't know if you we're gonna do a dot
> > >at a time or whole biggo rectangles & stuff..
> > >
> > >The PatBlt is good too !  One I didn't think of.
> > >
> > >Sincerely,
> > >David W.
> > >
> > >
> > >__________________________________________________
> > >Do You Yahoo!?
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----- Original Message -----
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> List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hello ??
>
> I think you're the first person outside of GFA
> to say anything nice about my page.  Thank you !  :)
>
Sorry to disappoint you but I am on the GFA mailing list. I am just natually
modest and reticent :) .
I see that you like postcards. I'll try and find you a couple of nice
Olympic ones from Sydney while the games are on.
Back to what I wrote: your page now stands out among my IE5 favourites by
replacing the "e" icon of everything else by a masculine looking "g" . It is
a replacement that occurs after the "e" has first appeared. Interesting.
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List Member "Mike Fooks" <Mick.Fooks@btinternet.com> wrote:
Hi y'all, I note David's comment about lurkers, well it's a steep learning
curve; 60% thumbing through the GFA bumph, 20% programming, 10% following
the newsgroup and 30% scratching head. Yup I'm gonna learn to add up too.

Real question, the GFA Manual says a Child window can have the following
style attributes:
     here follows a big blank as in the manual

Then there follows an example of a child window with the following styles:
    WS_CAPTION,   WS_OVERLAPPED,  WS_VISIBLE
are there any more?  I tried some detailed in SetWindowStyle but the
interpreter failed to accept them.

No matter what I do my child window ( created with ChildW .....) has a title
bar which I don't want.
Also, can I prevent the user  from dragging or resizing a child window?

Mike
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List Member Doyle Whisenant <mechanic@sonet.net> wrote:
Mike Fooks wrote:
> 
> List Member "Mike Fooks" <Mick.Fooks@btinternet.com> wrote:
> Hi y'all, I note David's comment about lurkers, well it's a steep learning
> 
> Then there follows an example of a child window with the following styles:
>     WS_CAPTION,   WS_OVERLAPPED,  WS_VISIBLE
> are there any more?  

>From another "lurker"...

Style	Meaning

MDIS_ALLCHILDSTYLES	Creates an MDI client window that can have any
combination of window styles. When this style is not specified, an MDI
child window has the WS_MINIMIZE, WS_MAXIMIZE, WS_HSCROLL, and
WS_VSCROLL styles as default settings. 
WS_BORDER	Creates a window that has a border. 
WS_CAPTION	Creates a window that has a title bar (implies the WS_BORDER
style). This style cannot be used with the WS_DLGFRAME style. 
WS_CHILD	Creates a child window. Cannot be used with the WS_POPUP style. 
WS_CHILDWINDOW	Same as the WS_CHILD style. 

WS_CLIPCHILDREN	Excludes the area occupied by child windows when drawing
within the parent window. Used when creating the parent window. 
WS_CLIPSIBLINGS	Clips child windows relative to each other; that is,
when a particular child window receives a paint message, the
WS_CLIPSIBLINGS style clips all other overlapped child windows out of
the region of the child window to be updated. (If WS_CLIPSIBLINGS is not
specified and child windows overlap, it is possible, when drawing within
the client area of a child window, to draw within the client area of a
neighboring child window.) For use with the WS_CHILD style only. 
WS_DISABLED	Creates a window that is initially disabled. 
WS_DLGFRAME	Creates a window with a double border but no title. 

WS_GROUP	Specifies the first control of a group of controls in which the
user can move from one control to the next by using the arrow keys. All
controls defined with the WS_GROUP style after the first control belong
to the same group. The next control with the WS_GROUP style ends the
style group and starts the next group (that is, one group ends where the
next begins). Only dialog boxes use this style. 
WS_HSCROLL	Creates a window that has a horizontal scroll bar. 
WS_MAXIMIZE	Creates a window of maximum size. 
WS_MAXIMIZEBOX	Creates a window that has a Maximize button. 
WS_MINIMIZE	Creates a window that is initially minimized. For use with
the WS_OVERLAPPED style only. 
WS_MINIMIZEBOX	Creates a window that has a Minimize button. 
WS_OVERLAPPED	Creates an overlapped window. An overlapped window has a
title and a border. 

WS_OVERLAPPEDWINDOW	Creates an overlapped window having the
WS_OVERLAPPED, WS_CAPTION, WS_SYSMENU, WS_THICKFRAME, WS_MINIMIZEBOX,
and WS_MAXIMIZEBOX styles. 
WS_POPUP	Creates a pop-up window. Cannot be used with the WS_CHILD
style. 
WS_POPUPWINDOW	Creates a pop-up window that has the WS_BORDER, WS_POPUP,
and WS_SYSMENU styles. The WS_CAPTION style must be combined with the
WS_POPUPWINDOW style to make the System menu visible. 

WS_SYSMENU	Creates a window that has a System-menu box in its title bar.
Used only for windows with title bars. 
WS_TABSTOP	Specifies one of any number of controls through which the
user can move by using the TAB key. The TAB key moves the user to the
next control specified by the WS_TABSTOP style. Only dialog boxes use
this style. 
WS_THICKFRAME	Creates a window with a thick frame that can be used to
size the window. 
WS_VISIBLE	Creates a window that is initially visible. This applies to
overlapped, child, and pop-up windows. For overlapped windows, the y
parameter is used as a ShowWindow function parameter. 
WS_VSCROLL	Creates a window that has a vertical scroll bar. 


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List Member "Russell Hayward" <russ@softhome.net> wrote:

Hi Colin,

> Just visited your webpage and on my return after adding it to favorites I
> found that an icon replaces the standard icon. If you don't mind could you
> explain how?

This is surpisingly easy to do, there's an explanation on MSDN:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/workshop/Author/dhtml/howto/ShortcutIcon.asp

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Greets Pat:

Thanks for the code !
Will look at it when I get a chance but all ready
it is all most 2am !

Finished Importer but that goes in an-other
message.  :)

Sincerely,
David W.

--- Pat Bullman <pbullman@norex.com.au> wrote:
> David,
>=20
> You were after some code demostating COMmunications
> in GFA.  I found the
> attached amongst some samples.  Looks like it might
> be what you're after.
>=20
> Hope it helps! =20
>=20
> Pat
>=20
>=20
>=20
> At 11:19 07/07/00 -0700, you wrote:
> >List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >OK, thanks !
> >
> >Oh in QBasic to dial a # its:
> >
> >DEFINT A-Z
> >OPEN "COM4:19200,N,8,1" AS #1
> >INPUT "# to dial:",N$
> >IF N$ =3D "" THEN END
> >' ^ No need to say CLOSE for COM port, QBee
> >    closes all open files
> >PRINT #1,N$
> >DO
> >  IF EOF(1)=3D0 THEN PRINT INPUT$(1,1);
> >LOOP UNTIL INKEY$ > ""
> >- - -
> >
> >Is there an equivalent to this in GFA ?
> >
> >The above code won't work as it is.
> >
> >Sincerely,
> >David W.
>=20

> ATTACHMENT part 2 application/octet-stream
name=3DComport.gfw


> ATTACHMENT part 3 application/octet-stream
name=3DCommset.gfw
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:

--- Dale Bryant <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com>
> wrote:
> Hi David,
> Some like to just read and some like to read and
> post. Everyone to their own
> taste.
> Dale
>=20

Yah well it gets all confusing sometime..
I thought that was a private post from a QBee or
something..  Okay..

Well I'll say it now:
Shock Machine Wizard Importer is complete.

You can get your copy here:

http://www.geocities.com/dw817/product/import.zip
IMPORT.ZIP 43567 bytes

Mind you, you =3DMUST=3D have the Shockwave Engine
all ready installed in your computer, you can get
that from

http://www.shockwave.com

What my gizzymo does is nip out of internet web
pages the programs that you can play in this
Shockwave Engine.  A LOT of the files you come across
they ghost out that Save button, especially if it's
not a game written by Shockwave themselves sooo this
nips out neato cartoons from cartoonnetwork.com, games
and stuff from kidswb.com, and neat toys and stuff
to play with from toondisney.com, I haven't checked
yet but I imagine it works for any webpage that has
shockwave games they want you have to be ONLINE to
play wellll not with my Wizard I got a ton of
neat Shockwave RPGs to play OFFLINE now thanks to
my Wizard which I used =3DMOST=3D thoroughly today in
extracting all these goodies.  :)

Be gentle with it tho !  I hadda devil of a time
with DLG OPEN so I settled on FILESELECT instead and
it may not be checking too many bug error things so
don't feed it junk or you just might get that back
okay !

It's got moot documents and help so if you really
get stuck just ask me cause I know Shockwave stores
their files really all screwballing !  :)

Enjoy !

Sincerely,
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Greets Colin:

> Sorry to disappoint you but I am on the GFA mailing
> list. I am just natually
> modest and reticent :) .
> I see that you like postcards. I'll try and find you
> a couple of nice
> Olympic ones from Sydney while the games are on.
> Back to what I wrote: your page now stands out among
> my IE5 favourites by
> replacing the "e" icon of everything else by a
> masculine looking "g" . It is
> a replacement that occurs after the "e" has first
> appeared. Interesting.
> Bye for now Colin.

Ah !  I bet I knowing what that is.
G for Geocities.  They prolly are really super
puffed up proud of themselves (and maybe they should
be) :)  so they change the "E" for Explorer to
their "G" .  Prolly not my doing but I all so
bought the GFA Compiler so maybe that's it..

Don't know !  Finished up Shockwave Engine Importer.
Neat stuff try it out !  The Snapshot feature is
really easy and just about nails down the exact
Shockwave game from a homepage every time.  :)

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> This is surpisingly easy to do, there's an
> explanation on MSDN:
>=20
>
http://msdn.microsoft.com/workshop/Author/dhtml/howto/ShortcutIcon.asp
>=20
> HTH,
> Russell Hayward

That's right Russell.  Let all that good wind outta
my sails.  I don't even know how it changed icons
and here you are explaining it !  Geesh !  :P

You guys are all ways talking over my head on most
things and this one is an other.  :)

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List Member Jim Pennington <Jim@x-act.net> wrote:
David,

The simplest way to do that would be with HyperTerminal (comes with Windows), wouldn't
it? HyperTerminal Private Edition would be required to use TCP/IP, but is a free
download from http://www.hilgraeve.com.

Jim Pennington


> > Okay Russell now that I'm =REALLY= confused I guess 
> > I can ask this. 
> > 
> > Is there a simple sourcecode in GFA that does 
> > terminal ?  That is you can type ATDT and a phone # 
> > in it and it can dial it and if it is a 7-bit BBS 
> > it will link up and let you chat and send files and 
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
I'm going crazy w/ this.  I KNOW it's been worked out, but I can't find it & my
white programmer's guide is missing, too.

When one uses DLGFONT to select a font, how are underline & strikeout
brought out?
I need'em!  It's NOT _EBX - that gives only the 4 styles.

I'm making headway on a font resource that allows using various fonts in various
sizes & (HOPEFULLY!!), *all* styles & charactoristics.

Presently have:
Regular
Bold
Italic
Bold Italic
Outlined
Shadowed

Outlined will, by default, allow whatever background exists under it to show
inside
the charactors.  You can, however, fill the inside w/ color of you choice
(as long
as it's one of the basic 16 Windows colors (for now)).

The fonts *should* scale by factors of 2, but maybe not... I've been fooled
before!
I'm considering trying metafiles instead of bitmaps - should better the
scaling.  I
STILL have to master *that* mess of snakes, tho.  Wouldn't mind seeing a real
working example of bmp2wmf in GFA-W(16).  I'd rather NOT have to resort to using
a store-bought image editor to convert'em.

Oh... this isn't any good for text editors of any sort... I'm working on
adding text 
to images.

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Subject: [gfabasic] Any interest in MP3 in GFA-W(16)?
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
MP3 IS now possible in GFA-W(16), thanks to Ulli Stemmeler.  No external modules
are necessary... he has produced GFA-W(16) code to play them using mmsystem.dll
without producing a GUI onscreen.  I suspect that by playing w/ it, one
could also
play MPG movies.

Thank you, Ulli.  It's tricky (some don't play), but a fantastic starting point!

My contribution to this:
URL=http://www.illustrate.org/

shuffler.exe is a FREE!! MP3, WAV & WMA player/converter from Austrailia.
It is the
first of about 137 appls I've tried to make wav->mp3 conversions that
actually DOES
the conversion!  It DOES NOT alter file associations, either!

Sooooo..... if you have *.wav files you want to convert, you now can!

Shuffler has one drawback... it clips the last word off some *.wav files & adds
2 sec to the play time.  I don't understand either.  There must be something
I don't
see in the *.wav... I've added the final word (yes, it's repeated when
played as *.wav)
& it still clips, no final word.

Shuffler's file selection is wacky, but great!  There are small boxes to the
left
of all dir names & file names.  Click the box on a dir & you select ALL
files in it.
If this is not desired, double-click the dir's NAME.  You MUST click the box
on any
filename to select it if you avoided selecting all in the dir section.

I don't know if this is shuffler's drawback or just some natural phenominum,
but any
*.wav->*.mp3 conversion nets a file 61% larger at 128K sample rate & even
much larger
at higher sample rates.  I thot MP3 would make smaller files.

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Ok, we can EnumTask.  Can we ListTask?  Not by that name, anyway.

Is it possible for us to list the appls running?  I've looked for everything I
can think of.  No cigar.

<G>
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
News.  Shuffler.exe won't convert *.wav smaller than 50K to *.mp3.  Renders a 0b
file.

Ulli's player routine won't play it's files, either, but mmsystem.dll will via
other frontends.  I don't understand this yet.

I've patched the conversions to indicate MP3 internally, but does no good.

Would somebody w/ MP3 files please run the following on one & send mp3.dat
to me?

FILESELECT "*.mp3","",n$
OPEN "i",#1,n$
a$ = INPUT$(16,#1)
CLOSE #1
OPEN "o",#2,"mp3.dat"
PRINT #2, a$
CLOSE #2
CLEAR
END

I want to see what the header of a commercial MP3 contains.  Thanks.
<G>
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List Member "Colin Elphick" <celphick@sydpcug.org.au> wrote:
Thank you Russell. It is very clear and simple.
Regards Colin.

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> List Member "Russell Hayward" <russ@softhome.net> wrote:
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> Hi Colin,
>
> > Just visited your webpage and on my return after adding it to favorites
I
> > found that an icon replaces the standard icon. If you don't mind could
you
> > explain how?
>
> This is surpisingly easy to do, there's an explanation on MSDN:
>
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/workshop/Author/dhtml/howto/ShortcutIcon.asp
>
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
shuffler & mp3->wav...

I'm thinkin this is a no-no.  I tried converting 25k-60k *.mp3 to *.wav last
night.
WHEW!!  200k to 400k files came out & would NOT play in anything.  I guess it's 
good only for converting *.wav to *.mp3 - as long as the *.wav is greater
than 50k.
If less than 50k, shuffler produces a 0b file... filename only.

Both files are about equal in size at 98k sample rate.  Sound isn't degraded too
much for what I wanted them for, but I still haven't managed to get shuffler's
*.mp3s to play in Ulli's routine.  I don't know yet what the problem is.  I have
another DOS appl from a friend in Germany that refuses to play shuffler's _OR_
those I split out of *.mpg.

I think I'm really going to have the header of a commercially produced *.mp3 to
look at.  *Something* is wrong.  QV, the DOS appl, won't even recognize
these things
& it's damned good.

<G>
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List Member Thomas Gonschor <thomas.gonschor@vph-bensberg.de> wrote:
Hi!

I have got a very nice "puzzle" which has to be realized in gfa-basic:

If I start an application and after this I start it twice I can check
for the first start with the following: IF GetModuleUsage(_INSTANCE)
> 1 THEN ...

But how do I get the application-handle of this first instance?
That's the first thing, the second problem is how to send a special
message to this first instance and with this message I must send a
string. Furthermore I must analyse this message in the first instance
and get the string to do a few things with this informtion.

Has anyone an idea how to realize this?

Many thanks in advance
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Greets Tom:

Hi Tom, it's of no really interesting to me cause I
doodle my own but here ya go.

FONT command sets parameters for SETFONT

FONT ITALIC 1 UNDERLINE 1 STRIKEOUT 1 TO Fnt

There's bunchies of other parameters like 14 in all !
But there's the Strikeout for you.

You can doodle OUTLINE and SHADOW yourself manually
it's not hard, see the text in my Shock Wizard that
has black outline to emphasize its purpose.

Hope This Helps !

Sincerely,
David W.

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> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> I'm going crazy w/ this.  I KNOW it's been worked
> out, but I can't find it & my
> white programmer's guide is missing, too.
>=20
> When one uses DLGFONT to select a font, how are
> underline & strikeout
> brought out?
> I need'em!  It's NOT _EBX - that gives only the 4
> styles.
>=20
> I'm making headway on a font resource that allows
> using various fonts in various
> sizes & (HOPEFULLY!!), *all* styles &
> charactoristics.
>=20
> Presently have:
> Regular
> Bold
> Italic
> Bold Italic
> Outlined
> Shadowed
>=20
> Outlined will, by default, allow whatever background
> exists under it to show
> inside
> the charactors.  You can, however, fill the inside
> w/ color of you choice
> (as long
> as it's one of the basic 16 Windows colors (for
> now)).
>=20
> The fonts *should* scale by factors of 2, but maybe
> not... I've been fooled
> before!
> I'm considering trying metafiles instead of bitmaps
> - should better the
> scaling.  I
> STILL have to master *that* mess of snakes, tho.=20
> Wouldn't mind seeing a real
> working example of bmp2wmf in GFA-W(16).  I'd rather
> NOT have to resort to using
> a store-bought image editor to convert'em.
>=20
> Oh... this isn't any good for text editors of any
> sort... I'm working on
> adding text=20
> to images.
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hey Tom !
You know me I love music !

Please post example or something on how to play
a MP3 music file, I'll go now to download
SHUFFLER to convert .WAVs to MP3s which I've
wanted.  Does it allow really really crunched cause
I don't need all stereo and 16 bit rather have
smaller MP3 file.

Regarding the adding/subtracting time, yah the MIDI
editor I got does this too..  It's prolly got to
follow a rigorous time schedule or something where
all music must be in increments of 2 secs or so..

Sincerely,
David W.


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> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> MP3 IS now possible in GFA-W(16), thanks to Ulli
> Stemmeler.  No external modules
> are necessary... he has produced GFA-W(16) code to
> play them using mmsystem.dll
> without producing a GUI onscreen.  I suspect that by
> playing w/ it, one
> could also
> play MPG movies.
>=20
> Thank you, Ulli.  It's tricky (some don't play), but
> a fantastic starting point!
>=20
> My contribution to this:
> URL=3Dhttp://www.illustrate.org/
>=20
> shuffler.exe is a FREE!! MP3, WAV & WMA
> player/converter from Austrailia.
> It is the
> first of about 137 appls I've tried to make wav->mp3
> conversions that
> actually DOES
> the conversion!  It DOES NOT alter file
> associations, either!
>=20
> Sooooo..... if you have *.wav files you want to
> convert, you now can!
>=20
> Shuffler has one drawback... it clips the last word
> off some *.wav files & adds
> 2 sec to the play time.  I don't understand either.=20
> There must be something
> I don't
> see in the *.wav... I've added the final word (yes,
> it's repeated when
> played as *.wav)
> & it still clips, no final word.
>=20
> Shuffler's file selection is wacky, but great!=20
> There are small boxes to the
> left
> of all dir names & file names.  Click the box on a
> dir & you select ALL
> files in it.
> If this is not desired, double-click the dir's NAME.
>  You MUST click the box
> on any
> filename to select it if you avoided selecting all
> in the dir section.
>=20
> I don't know if this is shuffler's drawback or just
> some natural phenominum,
> but any
> *.wav->*.mp3 conversion nets a file 61% larger at
> 128K sample rate & even
> much larger
> at higher sample rates.  I thot MP3 would make
> smaller files.
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi Tom:

If you want the baaad way to see what's running in
Windows, hit CTRL-ALT-DEL there's a list.

I use that to pop out an annoying program that won't
go a-way.  :)

Sincerely,
David W.

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> name, anyway.
>=20
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Hey Tom,
here you go
[enclosed]
I was JUST getting ready to zap these
cause they're all a bit high-string for what I
like.  Will keep one as an example tho if you'd
like that sent sometime.  My new downloads on
Last Unicorn Mp3s are samples only 15sec..  :/

Sincerely,
David W.

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> News.  Shuffler.exe won't convert *.wav smaller than
> 50K to *.mp3.  Renders a 0b
> file.
>=20
> Ulli's player routine won't play it's files, either,
> but mmsystem.dll will via
> other frontends.  I don't understand this yet.
>=20
> I've patched the conversions to indicate MP3
> internally, but does no good.
>=20
> Would somebody w/ MP3 files please run the following
> on one & send mp3.dat
> to me?
>=20
> FILESELECT "*.mp3","",n$
> OPEN "i",#1,n$
> a$ =3D INPUT$(16,#1)
> CLOSE #1
> OPEN "o",#2,"mp3.dat"
> PRINT #2, a$
> CLOSE #2
> CLEAR
> END
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> I want to see what the header of a commercial MP3
> contains.  Thanks.
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Greets Russell:

Well, you're quite right that is pretty easy to
do to get that new icon in your favorites !

I see you have an address to a bunch of help so
I'm gonna read it from the top to see what else I
can learn.  :)

I Gotta learn that HTMLScript to do neat things !

http://msdn.microsoft.com/workshop/author/default.asp

Sincerely,
David W.


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> Thank you Russell. It is very clear and simple.
> Regards Colin.
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For anyone interested, the best sound program for any conversion I have
found is Goldwave:

http://www.goldwave.com

HTH,
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David
I need to be able to list what's running before I start something agin.  I
think I
found it last night.
<G>
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At 06:37 AM 12/07/00 -0700, you wrote:
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>
>If you want the baaad way to see what's running in
>Windows, hit CTRL-ALT-DEL there's a list.
>
>I use that to pop out an annoying program that won't
>go a-way.  :)
>
>Sincerely,
>David W.
>
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>> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> Ok, we can EnumTask.  Can we ListTask?  Not by that
>> name, anyway.
>>=20
>> Is it possible for us to list the appls running?=20
>> I've looked for everything I
>> can think of.  No cigar.
>>=20
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Thank you, David & Peter.  I'll get back with you a bit later.
<G>
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>Hey Tom,
>here you go
>[enclosed]
>I was JUST getting ready to zap these
>cause they're all a bit high-string for what I
>like.  Will keep one as an example tho if you'd
>like that sent sometime.  My new downloads on
>Last Unicorn Mp3s are samples only 15sec..  :/
>
>Sincerely,
>David W.
>
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>> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> News.  Shuffler.exe won't convert *.wav smaller than
>> 50K to *.mp3.  Renders a 0b
>> file.
>>=20
>> Ulli's player routine won't play it's files, either,
>> but mmsystem.dll will via
>> other frontends.  I don't understand this yet.
>>=20
>> I've patched the conversions to indicate MP3
>> internally, but does no good.
>>=20
>> Would somebody w/ MP3 files please run the following
>> on one & send mp3.dat
>> to me?
>>=20
>> FILESELECT "*.mp3","",n$
>> OPEN "i",#1,n$
>> a$ =3D INPUT$(16,#1)
>> CLOSE #1
>> OPEN "o",#2,"mp3.dat"
>> PRINT #2, a$
>> CLOSE #2
>> CLEAR
>> END
>>=20
>> I want to see what the header of a commercial MP3
>> contains.  Thanks.
>> <G>
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
I give up.  The first four bytes of the MP3 header appear to hold the time of
duration & perhaps the speed info.  The 2nd four bytes may, OR MAY NOT, contain
the internal ID in the form: chr$(51,109,182,80).  It really doesn't seem to
matter if it's there or not.

As for the time, I don't see how it is cinfigured.  I would have thot it might
use the hex equivilant, giving 255 values for one byte, but appartently not so.

Oh, well... THANKS, guys.  Now to go sort out Peter's MP3 header routine.  I
might be able to learn something from it - it looks pretty thorough!
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
David
*Some* register can be read for both - that's what I need to know... which=
 ones.
<G>
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>
>Hi Tom, it's of no really interesting to me cause I
>doodle my own but here ya go.
>
>FONT command sets parameters for SETFONT
>
>FONT ITALIC 1 UNDERLINE 1 STRIKEOUT 1 TO Fnt
>
>There's bunchies of other parameters like 14 in all !
>But there's the Strikeout for you.
>
>You can doodle OUTLINE and SHADOW yourself manually
>it's not hard, see the text in my Shock Wizard that
>has black outline to emphasize its purpose.
>
>Hope This Helps !
>
>Sincerely,
>David W.
>
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>> I'm going crazy w/ this.  I KNOW it's been worked
>> out, but I can't find it & my
>> white programmer's guide is missing, too.
>>=20
>> When one uses DLGFONT to select a font, how are
>> underline & strikeout
>> brought out?
>> I need'em!  It's NOT _EBX - that gives only the 4
>> styles.
>>=20
>> I'm making headway on a font resource that allows
>> using various fonts in various
>> sizes & (HOPEFULLY!!), *all* styles &
>> charactoristics.
>>=20
>> Presently have:
>> Regular
>> Bold
>> Italic
>> Bold Italic
>> Outlined
>> Shadowed
>>=20
>> Outlined will, by default, allow whatever background
>> exists under it to show
>> inside
>> the charactors.  You can, however, fill the inside
>> w/ color of you choice
>> (as long
>> as it's one of the basic 16 Windows colors (for
>> now)).
>>=20
>> The fonts *should* scale by factors of 2, but maybe
>> not... I've been fooled
>> before!
>> I'm considering trying metafiles instead of bitmaps
>> - should better the
>> scaling.  I
>> STILL have to master *that* mess of snakes, tho.=20
>> Wouldn't mind seeing a real
>> working example of bmp2wmf in GFA-W(16).  I'd rather
>> NOT have to resort to using
>> a store-bought image editor to convert'em.
>>=20
>> Oh... this isn't any good for text editors of any
>> sort... I'm working on
>> adding text=20
>> to images.
>>=20
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Greets Russel and major THANKS !!

With Goldwave the LAME.DLL which plays Mp3 I can
now do in GFABasic play in 3 lines !

I've gotta rather big demo I put together at
http://www.geocities.com/dw817/source/playmp3.zip
847k !

It's got color bars and an oscilloscope but those
are JUST for fun !  The real magic is the neat
DLL Russell introduced me to !

Also, as you mentioned, Goldwave is MUCH better then
the other.  I was gonna razz Tom cause the one he
said only does EVEN numbered tracks !  Geesh !

Included in playmp3.zip
playmp3.lst  . About 60 lines, but the actual player
               is only 3 lines

LAME_ENC.DLL . The Mp3 encoder

Wipe16E.Mp3  . Very nice I got soundtrack of
               Wipeout for Playstation background
               music !

Put a copy of the DLL inside your c:\windows
and you're ready to go !

Sincerely,
David W.

Hey Russell, my Wipeout track of 2 minutes is
over 600k whazzup with that ??  Is there a way to
make it smaller ?  I'm using a custom filter I made
CRISP so a crunch MP3 doesn't sound like it's
underwater but it's still none too good.

Can you recommend a good MP3 cruncher now or
is the only better one RealAudio at this point ?

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Oh you mean machine-language stuff ??
Wouldn't know about that.

Hey, Russell's Goldwave is the tops !
It even comes with a DLL that's GFABasic ready
to play MP3 checkout my doodle on it tho I had a bit
too much fun with the graphics the actually playing
is 3 lines.

The CD Encoder you talked about (which I downloaded
only does even tracks - crippleware!)

Goldware allows 150 moves and you reset moves by
closing it and re-opening it.  It's decent software
tho !  Lor if I might register this making, what,
=3D3=3D packages I've registered for the computer ??

I didn't think I'd ever buy or register anything
ah well..

I'm a kicking to Wipeout that Goldwave nipped out
of track 2 on my Playstation CD too cool !

Sincerely,
David W.

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> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
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> *Some* register can be read for both - that's what I
> need to know... which ones.
> <G>
> TomR.
>=20
> At 06:27 AM 12/07/00 -0700, you wrote:
> >List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >Greets Tom:
> >
> >Hi Tom, it's of no really interesting to me cause I
> >doodle my own but here ya go.
> >
> >FONT command sets parameters for SETFONT
> >
> >FONT ITALIC 1 UNDERLINE 1 STRIKEOUT 1 TO Fnt
> >
> >There's bunchies of other parameters like 14 in all
> !
> >But there's the Strikeout for you.
> >
> >You can doodle OUTLINE and SHADOW yourself manually
> >it's not hard, see the text in my Shock Wizard that
> >has black outline to emphasize its purpose.
> >
> >Hope This Helps !
> >
> >Sincerely,
> >David W.
> >
> >--- Tom Record
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> >> white programmer's guide is missing, too.
> >>=20
> >> When one uses DLGFONT to select a font, how are
> >> underline & strikeout
> >> brought out?
> >> I need'em!  It's NOT _EBX - that gives only the 4
> >> styles.
> >>=20
> >> I'm making headway on a font resource that allows
> >> using various fonts in various
> >> sizes & (HOPEFULLY!!), *all* styles &
> >> charactoristics.
> >>=20
> >> Presently have:
> >> Regular
> >> Bold
> >> Italic
> >> Bold Italic
> >> Outlined
> >> Shadowed
> >>=20
> >> Outlined will, by default, allow whatever
> background
> >> exists under it to show
> >> inside
> >> the charactors.  You can, however, fill the
> inside
> >> w/ color of you choice
> >> (as long
> >> as it's one of the basic 16 Windows colors (for
> >> now)).
> >>=20
> >> The fonts *should* scale by factors of 2, but
> maybe
> >> not... I've been fooled
> >> before!
> >> I'm considering trying metafiles instead of
> bitmaps
> >> - should better the
> >> scaling.  I
> >> STILL have to master *that* mess of snakes, tho.=20
> >> Wouldn't mind seeing a real
> >> working example of bmp2wmf in GFA-W(16).  I'd
> rather
> >> NOT have to resort to using
> >> a store-bought image editor to convert'em.
> >>=20
> >> Oh... this isn't any good for text editors of any
> >> sort... I'm working on
> >> adding text=20
> >> to images.
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi Tom:

--- Tom Record
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> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> David
> I need to be able to list what's running before I
> start something agin.  I
> think I
> found it last night.
> <G>
> TomR.

List - Listbox, that's what I need to learn next I
guess..  Shockwave Wizard didn't realize, that's me,
that the cache is stored sometime on DIFFERENT
location
in an other computer.

My knowledge:
c:\windows\tempor~1

On Dad's computer it's:
c:\mydocu~1\cookies

Crazy stuff they can't even agree on where to put all
the temporary files..  Soo...  What I think I'll need
to do next is make a program that sticks all of
drive C directory every little bit and I'll make a
listbox that you can choose SWF and DIR files from..

They got crazy programs to search all for MP3 files
too which is strange so maybe I'll let it search for
other stuff too like MIDs and WAVs and stuff.

(SIGH)
That really is the easiest way to do it tho I think..

Any thing I should know about Listboxes before I
get started ?  Thanks again for your help on the
Text field dialog boxes for non-dialog window !
I'm making direct use of this in current Shockwave
Wizard.  :)

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hey, Russell's Goldwave is the tops !
> It even comes with a DLL that's GFABasic ready
> to play MP3 checkout my doodle on it tho I had a bit
> too much fun with the graphics the actually playing
> is 3 lines.
>=20
> The CD Encoder you talked about (which I downloaded
> only does even tracks - crippleware!)
  ^ ^ ^

Sorry this message was to Tom got all speed up in
my writing okay.  I got =3DNO=3D complaints about
Goldwave,
Russell !

Oh and Tom you know now I guess but Goldwave does
ALL of CD no problem even if it's 1 track data stuff
and next track music !  Maaaan I've been after that
Wipeout music track for a-long time !  :)

Using RealAudio encoder all ways ran me outta memory
now I can get ALL my fav music CDs put together
with GoldWave.

Thanks again Russell !!

Sincerely,
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Subject: [gfabasic] MP3 (Oh, Jeeze, again?)
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Alright, have downloaded David's MP3 play playpurty.  The MP3 file included
w/ it
bombs hell outa my system, no matter which method I try.

Enter Piotr's MP3 header revealer!  David's big MP3 is a v2.5, & I guess I'm
short
some sort of system notification or notation.  I had already added Ulli's msg...
MP3=MpegAudio (or some such) to win.ini.

shuffler vs goldwave:  shuffler is FREE, goldwave is $40!  Shuffler is
pretty fair
for converting WAV to MP3, but that's about all.  Haven't tried goldwave
yet, but
now have it onboard.

Comparison of David's & Ulli's routines: David's has no control over volume,
however,
while Ulli's does, it's max volume is what the master volume control is
already set
to, so no great difference comes into play here.  One aspect that is VERY
important
tho... David's can be interrupted by exiting the routine.  Ulli's continues
to play
until outside means is used to shut it down.  Shutting down the routine
*here* does
NOT shut down the sounf for some reason.  It has a GETEVENT in it's main
loop & will
NOT play the file if that is REMmed or left out.  I suspect I have something
wrong
in Ulli's routine that is causing the problem.

One aspect of shuffler I like is that I can set the sample rate to 98K,
which yields
an MP3 just slightly bigger than the WAV it was.  I can't alter much about
the WAV
using WndDat.  SoundRecorder *might* be able to adjust more things than WinDat.

No bitchin or grippin here... just noting what I ran into.  That v2.5 MP3 is
going to
be a problem, I think.  It *may* simply be that it plays fine on a Win98 system.

David... there's no need to have that *.dll in your package... it is NEVER
used.  OR,
maybe it should be in windows\system\ ???  I'll try that.  I just never put
anything
in there that isn't necessary.  Maybe *that's* why I can't play that v2.5?
It's never
called in your routine & I doubt mmsystem knows about it.
<G>
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi Tom !
I'm in GREAT spirits this morning cause BOY
I gotta TON of work for GoldWave to do Today !
:)

--- Tom Record
<tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Alright, have downloaded David's MP3 play playpurty.
>  The MP3 file included
> w/ it
> bombs hell outa my system, no matter which method I
> try.

* Huumm..  Maybe I crunched it too deep.  It's like
  8000 with a 16-bit which is prolly less then
  telephone quality more like shortwave radio.  :)

* Hey Russell !  I'm toning up those TREBLE to royal
  heck cause when you crunching that deep it sounds
  like under-water.  Is there something else I can
  know about making music sound CRISP and CLEAN when
  its crunched really really hard ?  If you bring
  up my MP3 in GoldWave you'll see that the spikes
  are reaching top and bottom edge all most all the
  time !  :)

>=20
> Enter Piotr's MP3 header revealer!  David's big MP3
> is a v2.5, & I guess I'm
> short
> some sort of system notification or notation.  I had
> already added Ulli's msg...
> MP3=3DMpegAudio (or some such) to win.ini.

* Yah no kidding MP3 is big !  I got the RealAudio
  maker thingie I'll re-install and see how big a .RA
  file is to the MP3 since Goldwave works WELL to
  nip out a track from any CD any-where.

>=20
> shuffler vs goldwave:  shuffler is FREE, goldwave is
> $40!  Shuffler is
> pretty fair
> for converting WAV to MP3, but that's about all.=20
> Haven't tried goldwave
> yet, but
> now have it onboard.

* Now Tom, Shuffler only allows you do even tracks,
  ya know, 2, 4, 6, 8, it WON'T allow 1, 3, 5, 7
  that's crippleware in my book.

  Goldwave does ALL tracks.  It is limited cause it
  allows you only 150 moves per session well biggest
  # I got up to was 120 after 2 hours and trying
  every little thing in it.  Aaaand you just saving
  your work, close it, bring it back up a-gain+ and
  you got an other 150 moves again !  :)
>=20
> Comparison of David's & Ulli's routines: David's has
> no control over volume,
> however,
> while Ulli's does, it's max volume is what the
> master volume control is
> already set
> to, so no great difference comes into play here.=20
> One aspect that is VERY
> important
> tho... David's can be interrupted by exiting the
> routine.  Ulli's continues
> to play
> until outside means is used to shut it down.=20
> Shutting down the routine
> *here* does
> NOT shut down the sounf for some reason.  It has a
> GETEVENT in it's main
> loop & will
> NOT play the file if that is REMmed or left out.

* That's simple Tom.  MCI is one slow little program !
  It takes a LOT of time for it to get around to
  playing a MP3 when you tell it !  It takes better
  then 10 !seconds! to finally play that Wipeout when
  I'm on the NET and have about 10-12 tasks open
  working on.
  That PEEKEVENT and GETEVENT stuff lets MCI have
  some breathing room.  With GFA open and not on NET
  and maybe one DOSSHELL it takes 1 second to play it.

> I
> suspect I have something
> wrong
> in Ulli's routine that is causing the problem.
>=20
> One aspect of shuffler I like is that I can set the
> sample rate to 98K,
> which yields
> an MP3 just slightly bigger than the WAV it was.  I
> can't alter much about
> the WAV
> using WndDat.  SoundRecorder *might* be able to
> adjust more things than WinDat.
>=20
> No bitchin or grippin here... just noting what I ran
> into.  That v2.5 MP3 is
> going to
> be a problem, I think.  It *may* simply be that it
> plays fine on a Win98 system.
>=20
> David... there's no need to have that *.dll in your
> package... it is NEVER
> used.  OR,
> maybe it should be in windows\system\ ???

* Goldwave's homepage say to install all those DLL
  files in Windows so I did.  I saw it played the
  MP3 without requiring a external player so I thought
  maybe they patched the easy Windows Media player.
  They did cause it played MP3s now so I'm saying
  HEY!  I bet GFA can now play those MP3 cause Windows
  says Media Player can now.  Yep !  :)  Works very
  nice !  :)

  MCI - Most Clever Interruptor !

> I'll try
> that.  I just never put
> anything
> in there that isn't necessary.  Maybe *that's* why I
> can't play that v2.5?
> It's never
> called in your routine & I doubt mmsystem knows
> about it.
> <G>
> TomR.

* I don't know..  I think it might be needed cause I
  know that my Media Player didn't play MP3s before..

Sincerely,
David W.


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List Member Engelbert van Loock <Engelbert.v@n.loock.com> wrote:
Tom, David,

on my computers mp3 files can be played with the high level mci
commands, as in David's listing. I don't have GoldeWave installed, but
the mp3codec by Microsoft. You can download it on Roland's site:
http://userpage.fu-berlin.de/~alibaba/gfabasic/lists/mp3.zip

The second advance of the mp3codec is that big waves can be mp3
compressed with the sndrec32.exe, but still have a wave header. So they
can be played from a resource in the same way as uncompressed waves.

Please allow  one question: To install the mp3codec an "install.inf"
file must be right clicked and in the appearing menu "install" must be
chosen. Does anybody know, how this can be done automaticly from - for
instance - a gfa listing? ... or just temporarily?

Thanks
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
11:15, morning.  I suspect it was a good thing I downloaded GoldWave.  To do
much w/ it
I had to go get MediaPlayer 6.4 for Win95/NT4. (NOT the one for Win98! -
that's v7)

http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/Downloads/win31/Recommended/Featured/MediaP
layer.asp

If anybody wants to upgrade.  All latest flavors are available on that page.

Holy batcave housekeeping!  3.6 Megs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well, good news!  Ulli, your routine now plays all files.  David, yours,
too!  That
crazy *.mp3 you have in that *.zip ... sounds pretty good, even tho NOT my
style.

What a relief to get it all working!  mpfull.exe contains codecs for nearly
every
flavor of digital sound that exists.

OK, GoldWave *IS* better than Shuffler, but it costs!  $40 US.  I know, ya
get what
ya pay for <G>.

11:30 - a bite to eat, then off to bed.
<G>
TomR.

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Englebert
I put all that in the system dir & it still doesn't play.  I tried going back to
explorer.exe for a shell to install that *.inf, too.

Can't help w/ the question, tho.  Sorry.
<G>
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At 05:45 PM 13/07/00 +0200, you wrote:
>List Member Engelbert van Loock <Engelbert.v@n.loock.com> wrote:
>Tom, David,
>
>on my computers mp3 files can be played with the high level mci
>commands, as in David's listing. I don't have GoldeWave installed, but
>the mp3codec by Microsoft. You can download it on Roland's site:
>http://userpage.fu-berlin.de/~alibaba/gfabasic/lists/mp3.zip
>
>The second advance of the mp3codec is that big waves can be mp3
>compressed with the sndrec32.exe, but still have a wave header. So they
>can be played from a resource in the same way as uncompressed waves.
>
>Please allow  one question: To install the mp3codec an "install.inf"
>file must be right clicked and in the appearing menu "install" must be
>chosen. Does anybody know, how this can be done automaticly from - for
>instance - a gfa listing? ... or just temporarily?
>
>Thanks
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
David
Where to get the *.ra maker?
If shuffler does only even tracks, no problem to me because I'm converting
stand-alone
files, not ripping CDs.
<H>
TomR.


At 07:38 AM 13/07/00 -0700, you wrote:
>List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Hi Tom !
>I'm in GREAT spirits this morning cause BOY
>I gotta TON of work for GoldWave to do Today !
>:)
>
>--- Tom Record
><tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> List Member Tom Record
>> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> Alright, have downloaded David's MP3 play playpurty.
>>  The MP3 file included
>> w/ it
>> bombs hell outa my system, no matter which method I
>> try.
>
>* Huumm..  Maybe I crunched it too deep.  It's like
>  8000 with a 16-bit which is prolly less then
>  telephone quality more like shortwave radio.  :)
>
>* Hey Russell !  I'm toning up those TREBLE to royal
>  heck cause when you crunching that deep it sounds
>  like under-water.  Is there something else I can
>  know about making music sound CRISP and CLEAN when
>  its crunched really really hard ?  If you bring
>  up my MP3 in GoldWave you'll see that the spikes
>  are reaching top and bottom edge all most all the
>  time !  :)
>
>>=20
>> Enter Piotr's MP3 header revealer!  David's big MP3
>> is a v2.5, & I guess I'm
>> short
>> some sort of system notification or notation.  I had
>> already added Ulli's msg...
>> MP3=3DMpegAudio (or some such) to win.ini.
>
>* Yah no kidding MP3 is big !  I got the RealAudio
>  maker thingie I'll re-install and see how big a .RA
>  file is to the MP3 since Goldwave works WELL to
>  nip out a track from any CD any-where.
>
>>=20
>> shuffler vs goldwave:  shuffler is FREE, goldwave is
>> $40!  Shuffler is
>> pretty fair
>> for converting WAV to MP3, but that's about all.=20
>> Haven't tried goldwave
>> yet, but
>> now have it onboard.
>
>* Now Tom, Shuffler only allows you do even tracks,
>  ya know, 2, 4, 6, 8, it WON'T allow 1, 3, 5, 7
>  that's crippleware in my book.
>
>  Goldwave does ALL tracks.  It is limited cause it
>  allows you only 150 moves per session well biggest
>  # I got up to was 120 after 2 hours and trying
>  every little thing in it.  Aaaand you just saving
>  your work, close it, bring it back up a-gain+ and
>  you got an other 150 moves again !  :)
>>=20
>> Comparison of David's & Ulli's routines: David's has
>> no control over volume,
>> however,
>> while Ulli's does, it's max volume is what the
>> master volume control is
>> already set
>> to, so no great difference comes into play here.=20
>> One aspect that is VERY
>> important
>> tho... David's can be interrupted by exiting the
>> routine.  Ulli's continues
>> to play
>> until outside means is used to shut it down.=20
>> Shutting down the routine
>> *here* does
>> NOT shut down the sounf for some reason.  It has a
>> GETEVENT in it's main
>> loop & will
>> NOT play the file if that is REMmed or left out.
>
>* That's simple Tom.  MCI is one slow little program !
>  It takes a LOT of time for it to get around to
>  playing a MP3 when you tell it !  It takes better
>  then 10 !seconds! to finally play that Wipeout when
>  I'm on the NET and have about 10-12 tasks open
>  working on.
>  That PEEKEVENT and GETEVENT stuff lets MCI have
>  some breathing room.  With GFA open and not on NET
>  and maybe one DOSSHELL it takes 1 second to play it.
>
>> I
>> suspect I have something
>> wrong
>> in Ulli's routine that is causing the problem.
>>=20
>> One aspect of shuffler I like is that I can set the
>> sample rate to 98K,
>> which yields
>> an MP3 just slightly bigger than the WAV it was.  I
>> can't alter much about
>> the WAV
>> using WndDat.  SoundRecorder *might* be able to
>> adjust more things than WinDat.
>>=20
>> No bitchin or grippin here... just noting what I ran
>> into.  That v2.5 MP3 is
>> going to
>> be a problem, I think.  It *may* simply be that it
>> plays fine on a Win98 system.
>>=20
>> David... there's no need to have that *.dll in your
>> package... it is NEVER
>> used.  OR,
>> maybe it should be in windows\system\ ???
>
>* Goldwave's homepage say to install all those DLL
>  files in Windows so I did.  I saw it played the
>  MP3 without requiring a external player so I thought
>  maybe they patched the easy Windows Media player.
>  They did cause it played MP3s now so I'm saying
>  HEY!  I bet GFA can now play those MP3 cause Windows
>  says Media Player can now.  Yep !  :)  Works very
>  nice !  :)
>
>  MCI - Most Clever Interruptor !
>
>> I'll try
>> that.  I just never put
>> anything
>> in there that isn't necessary.  Maybe *that's* why I
>> can't play that v2.5?
>> It's never
>> called in your routine & I doubt mmsystem knows
>> about it.
>> <G>
>> TomR.
>
>* I don't know..  I think it might be needed cause I
>  know that my Media Player didn't play MP3s before..
>
>Sincerely,
>David W.
>
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Hi Mr. Loock:

Well I installed it and it didn't say anything so
maybe it's installed ?

I don't know about how the .INF works maybe just
copy over the DLLs all of them and it works maybe ?
I don't know..

OK I'm trying to do a good listbox here is source.
[enclosed]

For those new to this stuff, it introduces two new
GFA commands, LISTBOX and ~SendMessage() .

SendMessage is used both to stuff text-lines into the
ListBox and to retrieve which ones are highlighted..

I don't know how to get the true TEXT of each one out
yet..

OK the typeface I set is:
SETFONT ANSI_FIXED_FONT which is very good monospace
typeface.

I want to do this in the listbox

Filename Ext Size             Path+flag info
~~~~~~~~ ~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ...

So it scans the whole computer for MP3s or Shockwave
or any extension file stuff you want to find out about
all hidden in your computer
stuff and you can make a copy of it to where you can
get at it now a little easier..  It would prolly
sort by size first, then extension, then flags and
stuff since I'm building Shockwave Wizard to install
these files which takes about 3 levels of recurse
directory creation for each new item in the
Shockwave Engine.  Whew !  :)

Can someone please show me how to change the
typeface inside the listbox to the good typeface ?

This would be useful for lots of other things too
aaand I imagine it looks better too !

Thanks !

Oh and Tom your DLGITEM(-1, ..  is going far !
It's in use in there !  :)

Sincerely,
David W.

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> <Engelbert.v@n.loock.com> wrote:
> Tom, David,
>=20
> on my computers mp3 files can be played with the
> high level mci
> commands, as in David's listing. I don't have
> GoldeWave installed, but
> the mp3codec by Microsoft. You can download it on
> Roland's site:
>
http://userpage.fu-berlin.de/~alibaba/gfabasic/lists/mp3.zip
>=20
> The second advance of the mp3codec is that big waves
> can be mp3
> compressed with the sndrec32.exe, but still have a
> wave header. So they
> can be played from a resource in the same way as
> uncompressed waves.
>=20
> Please allow  one question: To install the mp3codec
> an "install.inf"
> file must be right clicked and in the appearing menu
> "install" must be
> chosen. Does anybody know, how this can be done
> automaticly from - for
> instance - a gfa listing? ... or just temporarily?
>=20
> Thanks
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi Tom !

--- Tom Record
<tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> 11:15, morning.  I suspect it was a good thing I
> downloaded GoldWave.  To do
> much w/ it
> I had to go get MediaPlayer 6.4 for Win95/NT4. (NOT
> the one for Win98! -
> that's v7)

* Ouch..  I'm running v6.4, where do you get the
  MediaPlayer for Win98 at v7 ?

  There is big bold as brass text saying that the
  player is not intended for Win98 yah I'm not THAT
  glutton of for a punishment.  :)  I won't download
  it.
>=20
>
http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/Downloads/win31/Recommended/Featured/Med=
iaP
> layer.asp
>=20
> If anybody wants to upgrade.  All latest flavors are
> available on that page.
>=20
> Holy batcave housekeeping!  3.6
> Megs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>=20
> Well, good news!  Ulli, your routine now plays all
> files.  David, yours,
> too!  That
> crazy *.mp3 you have in that *.zip ... sounds pretty
> good, even tho NOT my
> style.

* Hey it's not =3DREALLY=3D my style either but I've been
  getting biffed about trying to copy a fairly long
  piece of music from a CD that is NOT just straight
  music but can have data on it too.  Those two
  things really separate the men from boys in CD
  tracknappers.  :)  Bunchees of good CD tracknappers
  but VERY few of them will deal with CDs that have
  partial data partial music they get all confused
  and hang the computer not good ..  :/

* Lemme get all worked up in-to Gold Wave and I'll
post
  some VERY nice tracks of music.  That Wipeout track
  is the TEST I've all ways put up against every
  wannabe CD Tracknapper, and NO-ONE, not even the
  Shuffler which did crash twice trying to extract it,
  no-one except GoldWave munched it in good and proper
  no problems the first time thru.  Even RealAudio's
  sequencer can't hack tracks of music inside other
  tracks of Playstation game data.

* WayToGo GoldWave !
>=20
> What a relief to get it all working!  mpfull.exe
> contains codecs for nearly
> every
> flavor of digital sound that exists.
>=20
> OK, GoldWave *IS* better than Shuffler, but it
> costs!  $40 US.  I know, ya
> get what
> ya pay for <G>.
> 11:30 - a bite to eat, then off to bed.
> <G>
> TomR.

Here ya there, all ready 12:30pm here and no lunch
in me yet !  If you've got some info on changing
fonts inside dialog radio buttons window panes fields
forms and boxes please let me know cause that
vary-space-sizing system font is not gonna cut what
I need.

Thanks !

Sincerely,
David W.
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Huum ??
Oh that's REAL.COM .  They're the makers of it
and the breakers of people's wallets.  :)

I think it's called Real Producer or something.
Now if you don't like big downloads well it's about
7megs !!  And it is SLOW I mean really REALLY slow
on my computer.  Takes a true 15 minutes per 2 minute
track on my computer !  Also, now this is important,
I never did like these guys and this is a sure sign
of it.

The RAs you make run perfect sweet on your own
computer but if you take them to someone else's it
says INVALID ID you gotta MAKE a floppy ID # thingie
to carry with you to play your own Realaudio files !

Russell's if I am grossly wrong about this today
(and I hope I am), please point me and Tom to where
there is a good .WAV to .RA file convertor and of
course does a deep and dire crunch.  I got my 2 minute
music stuff down to 100k in RA was very nice !
But I couldn't play it on Dad's cause his wasn't
registered with my computer's RealAudio ID stuff ??

Now I knowing RealAudio may be just about the
most money-grubbing folks I ever did see but this ID
invalid thing is the absolute pinnacle in
crippleware !  I kept with it for a-while cause I
liked listening to my favorite CD music tracks in
100k or less, but not to be able to share it with
others -- well that's just wrong of RealAudio to
treating people thataway..  :/

Sincerely,
David W.

--- Tom Record
<tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> David
> Where to get the *.ra maker?
> If shuffler does only even tracks, no problem to me
> because I'm converting
> stand-alone
> files, not ripping CDs.
> <H>
> TomR.



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Hi to All

I found interesting information - crack. I'ts really working. Whew full =
version of Goldwave.

To crack Goldwave from version 4.x:
Run Goldwave and select Registration from main menu and write:

FirstName:
+DZA KRAKER

LastName:
THE TNT CRACK TEAM

s/n:
BFSCHKD

Best Regards
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List Member "Michal Sejfried" <42810730@pro.onet.pl> wrote:
Hi David

I've Internet Audio Mixer. It's very good application which can save Real
Audio files from wavs and mp3s. If you want I can send it to you.

Best Regards
Peter


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> List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Huum ??
> Oh that's REAL.COM .  They're the makers of it
> and the breakers of people's wallets.  :)
>
> I think it's called Real Producer or something.
> Now if you don't like big downloads well it's about
> 7megs !!  And it is SLOW I mean really REALLY slow
> on my computer.  Takes a true 15 minutes per 2 minute
> track on my computer !  Also, now this is important,
> I never did like these guys and this is a sure sign
> of it.
>
> The RAs you make run perfect sweet on your own
> computer but if you take them to someone else's it
> says INVALID ID you gotta MAKE a floppy ID # thingie
> to carry with you to play your own Realaudio files !
>
> Russell's if I am grossly wrong about this today
> (and I hope I am), please point me and Tom to where
> there is a good .WAV to .RA file convertor and of
> course does a deep and dire crunch.  I got my 2 minute
> music stuff down to 100k in RA was very nice !
> But I couldn't play it on Dad's cause his wasn't
> registered with my computer's RealAudio ID stuff ??
>
> Now I knowing RealAudio may be just about the
> most money-grubbing folks I ever did see but this ID
> invalid thing is the absolute pinnacle in
> crippleware !  I kept with it for a-while cause I
> liked listening to my favorite CD music tracks in
> 100k or less, but not to be able to share it with
> others -- well that's just wrong of RealAudio to
> treating people thataway..  :/
>
> Sincerely,
> David W.
>
> --- Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> > List Member Tom Record
> > <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> > David
> > Where to get the *.ra maker?
> > If shuffler does only even tracks, no problem to me
> > because I'm converting
> > stand-alone
> > files, not ripping CDs.
> > <H>
> > TomR.
>
>
>
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Greets Peter:

Here now you're gonna get us all in trouble and
here I was thinking of registering..  huumm..
Ah well your technique is better then my editing the
system registry but Hey ! we're not supposed to
talk about that in here !!  :)

Sincerely,
David W.

--- Micha=B3_Sejfried <42810730@pro.onet.pl> wrote:
> Hi to All
>=20
> I found interesting information - crack. I'ts really
> working. Whew full version of Goldwave.
>=20
> To crack Goldwave from version 4.x:
> Run Goldwave and select Registration from main menu
> and write:
>=20
> FirstName:
> +DZA KRAKER
>=20
> LastName:
> THE TNT CRACK TEAM
>=20
> s/n:
> BFSCHKD
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Yes, please I would like a copy so I can
get these into Real Audio.  Must admit the WAV MP3
format which I guess is not really a WAV ??  Is
pretty small.  Curious.  A MP3 WAV file plays in 1 sec
compared the the same file in true MP3 format takes
10 seconds (Wipeout still on the test bench to see
differences in size, quality, and resolution of audio)

For GoldWave, to get the best quality out of high
compressing the music make a new entry in
Equalizer:

0, 2, 4, 6, 8, 10, 12

Call it Sharpen if you like.

This may be a little obvious but it works well and
gives more correct "click" taste to music so it
doesn't
sound so under-water.  :)

Does any-one know of any other techniques to "clean"
up a massive crunched audio file so it sounds and
emulates like a higher bit counter-part ?

Sincerely,
David W.

Peter please send the RealAudio convertor file and
maybe link it so others can enjoy it and get use out
of it too.

Thanks !

--- Michal Sejfried <42810730@pro.onet.pl> wrote:
> List Member "Michal Sejfried" <42810730@pro.onet.pl>
> wrote:
> Hi David
>=20
> I've Internet Audio Mixer. It's very good
> application which can save Real
> Audio files from wavs and mp3s. If you want I can
> send it to you.
>=20
> Best Regards
> Peter
>=20
>=20
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Wicker" <dw817@yahoo.com>
> To: <gfabasic@gfa.net>
> Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2000 7:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [gfabasic] MP3 (Oh, Jeeze, again?)
>=20
>=20
> > List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Huum ??
> > Oh that's REAL.COM .  They're the makers of it
> > and the breakers of people's wallets.  :)
> >
> > I think it's called Real Producer or something.
> > Now if you don't like big downloads well it's
> about
> > 7megs !!  And it is SLOW I mean really REALLY slow
> > on my computer.  Takes a true 15 minutes per 2
> minute
> > track on my computer !  Also, now this is
> important,
> > I never did like these guys and this is a sure
> sign
> > of it.
> >
> > The RAs you make run perfect sweet on your own
> > computer but if you take them to someone else's it
> > says INVALID ID you gotta MAKE a floppy ID #
> thingie
> > to carry with you to play your own Realaudio files
> !
> >
> > Russell's if I am grossly wrong about this today
> > (and I hope I am), please point me and Tom to
> where
> > there is a good .WAV to .RA file convertor and of
> > course does a deep and dire crunch.  I got my 2
> minute
> > music stuff down to 100k in RA was very nice !
> > But I couldn't play it on Dad's cause his wasn't
> > registered with my computer's RealAudio ID stuff
> ??
> >
> > Now I knowing RealAudio may be just about the
> > most money-grubbing folks I ever did see but this
> ID
> > invalid thing is the absolute pinnacle in
> > crippleware !  I kept with it for a-while cause I
> > liked listening to my favorite CD music tracks in
> > 100k or less, but not to be able to share it with
> > others -- well that's just wrong of RealAudio to
> > treating people thataway..  :/
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > David W.
> >
> > --- Tom Record
> > <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net>
> wrote:
> > > List Member Tom Record
> > > <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net>
> wrote:
> > > David
> > > Where to get the *.ra maker?
> > > If shuffler does only even tracks, no problem to
> me
> > > because I'm converting
> > > stand-alone
> > > files, not ripping CDs.
> > > <H>
> > > TomR.
> >
> >
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List Member "Russell Hayward" <russ@softhome.net> wrote:

Hi Englebert,

> Please allow  one question: To install the mp3codec an "install.inf"
> file must be right clicked and in the appearing menu "install" must be
> chosen. Does anybody know, how this can be done automaticly from - for
> instance - a gfa listing? ... or just temporarily?

I think this will work, I haven't tested it though:

DLL #1,"shell"
  DECL WORD ShellExecute(W,L,L,L,L,W)
ENDDLL

~^ShellExecute(NULL,"install","Install.INI","","",SW_SHOW)

FREEDLL 1

Good luck,
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List Member "Russell Hayward" <russ@softhome.net> wrote:

Hi David,

> Can someone please show me how to change the
> typeface inside the listbox to the good typeface ?

This does the job, all on one line after you have created the listbox:

~SendMessage(DLGITEM(-1,2),WM_SETFONT,GetStockObject(ANSI_FIXED_FONT),0)

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
David, et.al.
v7 (Win98) is the download just above the 4.6 for Win95.  You can work your=
 way
back up the URL & find a page that allows you to select the specific=
 platform &
OS.  I just thot to save everybody some time & clicking.
<G>
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At 10:32 AM 13/07/00 -0700, you wrote:
>List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Hi Tom !
>
>--- Tom Record
><tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> List Member Tom Record
>> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> 11:15, morning.  I suspect it was a good thing I
>> downloaded GoldWave.  To do
>> much w/ it
>> I had to go get MediaPlayer 6.4 for Win95/NT4. (NOT
>> the one for Win98! -
>> that's v7)
>
>* Ouch..  I'm running v6.4, where do you get the
>  MediaPlayer for Win98 at v7 ?
>
>  There is big bold as brass text saying that the
>  player is not intended for Win98 yah I'm not THAT
>  glutton of for a punishment.  :)  I won't download
>  it.
>>=20
>>
>http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/Downloads/win31/Recommended/Featured/Media=
P
>> layer.asp
>>=20
>> If anybody wants to upgrade.  All latest flavors are
>> available on that page.
>>=20
>> Holy batcave housekeeping!  3.6
>> Megs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>=20
>> Well, good news!  Ulli, your routine now plays all
>> files.  David, yours,
>> too!  That
>> crazy *.mp3 you have in that *.zip ... sounds pretty
>> good, even tho NOT my
>> style.
>
>* Hey it's not =3DREALLY=3D my style either but I've been
>  getting biffed about trying to copy a fairly long
>  piece of music from a CD that is NOT just straight
>  music but can have data on it too.  Those two
>  things really separate the men from boys in CD
>  tracknappers.  :)  Bunchees of good CD tracknappers
>  but VERY few of them will deal with CDs that have
>  partial data partial music they get all confused
>  and hang the computer not good ..  :/
>
>* Lemme get all worked up in-to Gold Wave and I'll
>post
>  some VERY nice tracks of music.  That Wipeout track
>  is the TEST I've all ways put up against every
>  wannabe CD Tracknapper, and NO-ONE, not even the
>  Shuffler which did crash twice trying to extract it,
>  no-one except GoldWave munched it in good and proper
>  no problems the first time thru.  Even RealAudio's
>  sequencer can't hack tracks of music inside other
>  tracks of Playstation game data.
>
>* WayToGo GoldWave !
>>=20
>> What a relief to get it all working!  mpfull.exe
>> contains codecs for nearly
>> every
>> flavor of digital sound that exists.
>>=20
>> OK, GoldWave *IS* better than Shuffler, but it
>> costs!  $40 US.  I know, ya
>> get what
>> ya pay for <G>.
>> 11:30 - a bite to eat, then off to bed.
>> <G>
>> TomR.
>
>Here ya there, all ready 12:30pm here and no lunch
>in me yet !  If you've got some info on changing
>fonts inside dialog radio buttons window panes fields
>forms and boxes please let me know cause that
>vary-space-sizing system font is not gonna cut what
>I need.
>
>Thanks !
>
>Sincerely,
>David W.
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Please?  Am interested, tho main thot would be *.ra->*.wav for me.
<G>
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At 08:57 PM 13/07/00 +0200, you wrote:
>List Member "Michal Sejfried" <42810730@pro.onet.pl> wrote:
>Hi David
>
>I've Internet Audio Mixer. It's very good application which can save Real
>Audio files from wavs and mp3s. If you want I can send it to you.
>
>Best Regards
>Peter
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "David Wicker" <dw817@yahoo.com>
>To: <gfabasic@gfa.net>
>Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2000 7:42 PM
>Subject: Re: [gfabasic] MP3 (Oh, Jeeze, again?)
>
>
>> List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Huum ??
>> Oh that's REAL.COM .  They're the makers of it
>> and the breakers of people's wallets.  :)
>>
>> I think it's called Real Producer or something.
>> Now if you don't like big downloads well it's about
>> 7megs !!  And it is SLOW I mean really REALLY slow
>> on my computer.  Takes a true 15 minutes per 2 minute
>> track on my computer !  Also, now this is important,
>> I never did like these guys and this is a sure sign
>> of it.
>>
>> The RAs you make run perfect sweet on your own
>> computer but if you take them to someone else's it
>> says INVALID ID you gotta MAKE a floppy ID # thingie
>> to carry with you to play your own Realaudio files !
>>
>> Russell's if I am grossly wrong about this today
>> (and I hope I am), please point me and Tom to where
>> there is a good .WAV to .RA file convertor and of
>> course does a deep and dire crunch.  I got my 2 minute
>> music stuff down to 100k in RA was very nice !
>> But I couldn't play it on Dad's cause his wasn't
>> registered with my computer's RealAudio ID stuff ??
>>
>> Now I knowing RealAudio may be just about the
>> most money-grubbing folks I ever did see but this ID
>> invalid thing is the absolute pinnacle in
>> crippleware !  I kept with it for a-while cause I
>> liked listening to my favorite CD music tracks in
>> 100k or less, but not to be able to share it with
>> others -- well that's just wrong of RealAudio to
>> treating people thataway..  :/
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> David W.
>>
>> --- Tom Record
>> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> > List Member Tom Record
>> > <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> > David
>> > Where to get the *.ra maker?
>> > If shuffler does only even tracks, no problem to me
>> > because I'm converting
>> > stand-alone
>> > files, not ripping CDs.
>> > <H>
>> > TomR.
>>
>>
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List Member afonsogustavo@abordo.com.br wrote:
Hi,
A good "plug-in" to Goldwave 4.18 can be downloaded from:
 http://www.8bn.com/hambo/others3/cr-gw418.zip
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
You are RIGHT on top of it Russ !
Way to go !  :)

Question, can I use this technique to change the
typeface of any dialog doodads like a button or
stuff ?

Reading that line I see there is no way on this
green earth I would have EVER found this on my own !

I see you can apparently direct not just WM messages
to windows but to individual dialog doodads too am I
right on this ?

Thanks MUCH for the help !

Now I can go to finish up a BETTER file gizzymo.
I've been long needing one that sorts the entire
hard-drive by size of the files alone so you can
bip-bop out those fat temporary files there's no-way
to sort the whole hard-drive contents individual file
by individual path placement sooooo I see a need to
make one !  :)

One more question Russell (from thousands) :)
How do I stuff the entire contents of a hard-drive
with path recursion info including hidden files ?

The DOSSHELL of "DIR /S" won't allow the "/A" in there
for attributes so I'm at a loss to do read all the
files invisible and other-wise so they can be
tabulated..

Sincerely,
David W.

I'm still doodling in Fruity Jam.  The engine for it
will be used in ALL later packages.  Scrolling
text fields with large 128x128 appearance icons of
people's faces for talking and stuff looks very nice
tons of color and graphic sprite animations +
tile graphics viewing 64x64 !in size full screen or
32x32 tiles for smaller screen.

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> List Member "Russell Hayward" <russ@softhome.net>
> wrote:
>=20
> Hi David,
>=20
> > Can someone please show me how to change the
> > typeface inside the listbox to the good typeface ?
>=20
> This does the job, all on one line after you have
> created the listbox:
>=20
>
~SendMessage(DLGITEM(-1,2),WM_SETFONT,GetStockObject(ANSI_FIXED_FONT),0)
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi Tom:

There's a ton of other stuff in there back
cursing so it'll prolly be months for I update THAT
one thing saw something better I need system
maintenance cause I install de-install like 15 proggys
a day playing with stuff..  :)

Sincerely,
David W.

--- Tom Record
<tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> David, et.al.
> v7 (Win98) is the download just above the 4.6 for
> Win95.  You can work your way
> back up the URL & find a page that allows you to
> select the specific platform &
> OS.  I just thot to save everybody some time &
> clicking.
> <G>
> TomR.
>=20
>=20
> At 10:32 AM 13/07/00 -0700, you wrote:
> >List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >Hi Tom !
> >
> >--- Tom Record
> ><tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> >> List Member Tom Record
> >> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net>
> wrote:
> >> 11:15, morning.  I suspect it was a good thing I
> >> downloaded GoldWave.  To do
> >> much w/ it
> >> I had to go get MediaPlayer 6.4 for Win95/NT4.
> (NOT
> >> the one for Win98! -
> >> that's v7)
> >
> >* Ouch..  I'm running v6.4, where do you get the
> >  MediaPlayer for Win98 at v7 ?
> >
> >  There is big bold as brass text saying that the
> >  player is not intended for Win98 yah I'm not THAT
> >  glutton of for a punishment.  :)  I won't
> download
> >  it.
> >>=20
> >>
>
>http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/Downloads/win31/Recommended/Featured/Me=
diaP
> >> layer.asp
> >>=20
> >> If anybody wants to upgrade.  All latest flavors
> are
> >> available on that page.
> >>=20
> >> Holy batcave housekeeping!  3.6
> >> Megs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> >>=20
> >> Well, good news!  Ulli, your routine now plays
> all
> >> files.  David, yours,
> >> too!  That
> >> crazy *.mp3 you have in that *.zip ... sounds
> pretty
> >> good, even tho NOT my
> >> style.
> >
> >* Hey it's not =3DREALLY=3D my style either but I've
> been
> >  getting biffed about trying to copy a fairly long
> >  piece of music from a CD that is NOT just
> straight
> >  music but can have data on it too.  Those two
> >  things really separate the men from boys in CD
> >  tracknappers.  :)  Bunchees of good CD
> tracknappers
> >  but VERY few of them will deal with CDs that have
> >  partial data partial music they get all confused
> >  and hang the computer not good ..  :/
> >
> >* Lemme get all worked up in-to Gold Wave and I'll
> >post
> >  some VERY nice tracks of music.  That Wipeout
> track
> >  is the TEST I've all ways put up against every
> >  wannabe CD Tracknapper, and NO-ONE, not even the
> >  Shuffler which did crash twice trying to extract
> it,
> >  no-one except GoldWave munched it in good and
> proper
> >  no problems the first time thru.  Even
> RealAudio's
> >  sequencer can't hack tracks of music inside other
> >  tracks of Playstation game data.
> >
> >* WayToGo GoldWave !
> >>=20
> >> What a relief to get it all working!  mpfull.exe
> >> contains codecs for nearly
> >> every
> >> flavor of digital sound that exists.
> >>=20
> >> OK, GoldWave *IS* better than Shuffler, but it
> >> costs!  $40 US.  I know, ya
> >> get what
> >> ya pay for <G>.
> >> 11:30 - a bite to eat, then off to bed.
> >> <G>
> >> TomR.
> >
> >Here ya there, all ready 12:30pm here and no lunch
> >in me yet !  If you've got some info on changing
> >fonts inside dialog radio buttons window panes
> fields
> >forms and boxes please let me know cause that
> >vary-space-sizing system font is not gonna cut what
> >I need.
> >
> >Thanks !
> >
> >Sincerely,
> >David W.
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hey Tom:

--- Tom Record
<tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Please?  Am interested, tho main thot would be
> *.ra->*.wav for me.
> <G>
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> At 08:57 PM 13/07/00 +0200, you wrote:
> >List Member "Michal Sejfried"
> <42810730@pro.onet.pl> wrote:
> >Hi David
> >
> >I've Internet Audio Mixer. It's very good
> application which can save Real
> >Audio files from wavs and mp3s. If you want I can
> send it to you.
> >
> >Best Regards
> >Peter

* He was talking to meee !!  You need to wait your
  turn till you are called.  :)

Yah right like I'd do the same if it were you !
(Smile)

Regarding it Peter, just want some-way to pack
crunch down these nice musics now I seeing I can't
play more then one .WAV file at a time which I guess
defeats purpose me wanting to use these MP3 or mega
crunch WAVs from GoldWave as possible background
music which is a shame cause some I nipped out of
8 CDs so far is just PERFECT for that !

Is there a way to play WAV files maybe Mr. Loock
like those MIDI notes were you can stack 'em on top
of each other so maybe 3 or 4 WAV files are playing
at the same-time ?

Sincerely,
David W.


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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi Gustavo:

Tried running it said
MFC42D.DLL not found twice and then exited..

Are you sure it's a plug-in ?  I'd like to see
some new tables for the Filter Equalizer I use a lot
of the Flange and Mechanical do some pretty neat
things to speech !  :)

Sincerely,
David W.

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> A good "plug-in" to Goldwave 4.18 can be downloaded
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Hi All:

The accompanying program will allow you get any sector from your drives
(including the new 32-bit FATs -- a big, big thanx to Russ Hayward for
that). A lot of info can be retrieved  from the Boot Sector(s) (see below;
my prob is that I do not know where the info is in the FAT32 boot sector;
below, I've show the method to get info in the old FAT12 & FAT16 drives & a
copy of Sector 0 on an 'A' drive; I've also included a FAT32 sector 0. If
you look carefully the FAT type is shown at byte 58 for the FAT12/16 & at
byte 86 for the FAT32. Does anyone out there in GFA land know what & where I
can find the info for FAT32.

PROCEDURE Get_Data(xsec,numsec)
  LOCAL temp$=SPACE$(10)
  DEFMOUSE 2
  buf$ = SPACE$(numsec * $200)
  dsk = drv - 64
  adr = V:temp$
  LONG{adr} = xsec
  WORD{adr + 4} = numsec
  LONG{adr + 6} = V:buf$
  _DS = HIWORD(V:temp$)
  _BX = LOWORD(V:temp$)
  ~INTR($21,_SI = 0,_CX = $FFFF,_DL = dsk,_AX = $7305)
  flg! = TRUE
  DEFMOUSE 0
  IF ODD(_FL)
    BEEP
    @Get_Error_Code
    ~^bwccMessageBox(hWndSec&,mess$,title$,style3)
    flg! = FALSE
  ENDIF
RETURN
'
PROCEDURE Get_Error_Code
  SELECT _AH
  CASE 1
    mess$ = "Bad command!"
  CASE 2
    mess$ = "Bad address mark!"
  CASE 3
    mess$ = "Write-protect fault!"
  CASE 4,6
    mess$ = "Requested sector not found!"
  CASE 8
    mess$ = "DMA failure!"
  CASE $10
    mess$ = "Data error (bad CRC)!"
  CASE $20
    mess$ = "Controller failed!"
  CASE $40
    mess$ = "Seek operation failed!"
  CASE $80
    mess$ = "Attachment failed to respond!"
  ENDSELECT
  SELECT _AL
  CASE 0
    mess$ = mess$ + " Write-protect error!"
  CASE 1
    mess$ = mess$ + " Unknown unit!"
  CASE 2
    mess$ = mess$ + " Drive not ready!"
  CASE 3
    mess$ = mess$ + " Unknown command!"
  CASE 4
    mess$ = mess$ + " Data error (bad CRC)!"
  CASE 5
    mess$ = mess$ + " Bad request structure length!"
  CASE 6
    mess$ = mess$ + " Seek error!"
  CASE 7
    mess$ = mess$ + " Unknown media type!"
  CASE 8
    mess$ = mess$ + " Sector not found!"
  CASE 9
    mess$ = mess$ + " Printer out of paper!"
  CASE 10
    mess$ = mess$ + " Write fault!"
  CASE 11
    mess$ = mess$ + " Read fault!"
  CASE 12
    mess$ = mess$ + " General failure!"
  ENDSELECT
RETURN
'
PROCEDURE get_drv_info
  adr = V:buf$ + 11
  byt& = WORD{adr}
  tsec = WORD{adr + 8}
  IF tsec = 0 THEN tsec = LONG{adr + 21}
  boot& = WORD{adr + 3}
  hsec = LONG{adr + 17}
  clus| = BYTE{adr + 2}
  trak& = WORD{adr + 13}
  nfat| = BYTE{adr + 5}
  sfat& = WORD{adr + 11}
  head& = WORD{adr + 15}
  root& = WORD{adr + 6}
  root_start = boot& + (nfat| * sfat&)
  total_space = tsec * byt&
  ser$ = HEX$(BYTE{adr + 31},2) + HEX$(BYTE{adr + 30},2) + "-" +
HEX$(BYTE{adr + 29},2) + HEX$(BYTE{adr + 28},2)
  nme$ = MID$(buf$,44,11)
  fat$ = MID$(buf$,55,8)
  IF LEFT$(fat$,3) = "FAT"
    fat$ = MID$(fat$,4,2) + "-bit"
  ELSE
    DEFMOUSE 2
    @Get_Data(1,1)
    DEFMOUSE 0
    i = 3
    REPEAT
      test$ = HEX$(ASC(MID$(buf$,i,1)),2)
      EXIT IF test$ <> "FF"
      i ++
    UNTIL i > $200
    fat$ = "Unknown FAT"
    IF test$ = "00"
      fat$ = "*unknown - disk probably empty*"
    ELSE
      test = ASC(MID$(buf$,i,1))
      IF test = VAL(test$) + 1
        fat$ = "16-bit"
      ELSE
        fat$ = "12-bit"
      ENDIF
    ENDIF
  ENDIF
RETURN
'

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
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List Member Engelbert van Loock <Engelbert.v@n.loock.com> wrote:
Thanks Russell. It works. I have not realized the power of the second
argument of ShellExecute yet. Now I know.

Thanks to Tom for the information that the mci mp3 support is not
depending on the mp3codec. It seems to be the mediaplayer.

David,
as far as I know there is no possibility to mix up waves with the
mmsystem commands. DirectX gives the ability.

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List Member "Russell Hayward" <russ@softhome.net> wrote:

Hi Englebert,

> Thanks Russell. It works. I have not realized the power of the second
> argument of ShellExecute yet. Now I know.

Yes, I only found out the other day. Apparently it can do anything right
clicking can, you just have to look in the registry for the key name of the
required operation (HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\[File Type Name]\Shell). Also I only
found out the other day that if you only want to do the default thing you
should use NULL instead of "open", as open isn't always the default.

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Hi David,

> Question, can I use this technique to change the
> typeface of any dialog doodads like a button or
> stuff ?
>
> Reading that line I see there is no way on this
> green earth I would have EVER found this on my own !
>
> I see you can apparently direct not just WM messages
> to windows but to individual dialog doodads too am I
> right on this ?

This is something that isn't mentioned very often, it's confused me when I
began programming under Windows. All CONTROLs (listboxes, buttons, statics)
are actually windows, they are internally made with the same command as the
main window that they are contained within. I have a small article about it
on my web site:

http://www.baphead.freeserve.co.uk/amateurs.html

> One more question Russell (from thousands) :)
> How do I stuff the entire contents of a hard-drive
> with path recursion info including hidden files ?

You have to do it all yourself, I have attached a small example.

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Subject: Re: [gfabasic] MP3 (Oh, Jeeze, again?)
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> David,
> as far as I know there is no possibility to mix up
> waves with the
> mmsystem commands. DirectX gives the ability.
>=20
> Engelbert

Huum..  There's that DirectX again..
Well, I'm all most at 1000 <2k Ziped MIDIs
so will use most of those for any future
packages with the occasional 5-10k for logo
stuff.  :)

I do have a question tho.
The Goldwave can save a .WAV in MP3 16bit
format.  It's MUCH tighter then the 16 bit
normal .WAV file.  I guess I'm having to ask
why is MP3 saving with a .WAV extension or
what is the correlationship and would I need
to have some special DLLs on the other fellow's
computer so they can listen to the MP3 Wavs ?
(going to work with sound FX and stuff)

Oh and is there an easy way to have a .WAV or
.MID play repeat where I don't have to use Nano
or some other sync to check constantly to see when
one or the other is all done ?

I have a large collection of environment .WAVs
like ocean surf, rain, hurricane, etc. I'd like to
have those optional FX in Scenario for mapping
and the rain for instance needs to just keep
playing the same .WAV over and over again with-out
me having to check it constantly.

Is there a way ?

Sincerely,
David W.

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Subject: [gfabasic] Neatos in Windows
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
--- Russell Hayward <russ@softhome.net> wrote:
>=20
> Hi David,
> This is something that isn't mentioned very often,
> it's confused me when I
> began programming under Windows. All CONTROLs
> (listboxes, buttons, statics)
> are actually windows, they are internally made with
> the same command as the
> main window that they are contained within. I have a
> small article about it
> on my web site:
>=20
> http://www.baphead.freeserve.co.uk/amateurs.html

* You're really keeping your webpage updated !
  Kudos !  :)  Well I was thinking sorta this like
  a radio button or something has like a ship's
  anchor and they all fish with the same bait but
  the color of each boat is different.

> You have to do it all yourself, I have attached a
> small example.

* Will check-out the example, thanks !

Sincerely,
David W.

There's a new graphic program out that I guess is
100% free as it hasn't pestered me or shutdown yet
called IrfanView.  It's JUST about as powerful as
the much applauded Display for DOS but it's more
mouse intensive and runs directly in Windows.

Might be of interest to those of you who don't
type in your sleep like I do !  :)

http://www.irfanview.com

If for some unknown awful reason they locked it
up and said no more free versions I'll send ya
the one I've got which is free when I got it.

(Just brought up registration info, says
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Subject: [gfabasic] make it select what *you* want
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Sorry, been busy.  This from 2 yrs ago w/ help from Dean Hodgson

/* select!.lst  TomR.
/* This example uses a single select listbox with single-click selection
/* Dean worked it out.  Thanks, Dean!
/* Open a dialog with a listbox and a button in it

lbstyle% = LBS_STANDARD
DIALOG #0,70,5,147,229,"Choose filenames"
  CONTROL "",100,"listbox",lbstyle%,10,10,120,142
ENDDIALOG
SHOWDIALOG #0

'Get actual directory-path
'path$ = DIR$(0)
path$ = "c:\windows\"  /* look for user.dat - hidden or system.dat - hidden

/*Get the directory in the listbox (dirs + drives + files)
/*$4010 = DDL_DRIVES | DDL_DIRECTORY | DDL_READWRITE
/* $0010 dirs/files
/* $4000 drives only
/* $4010 drives/dirs/files
/* $8000 don't even think about it!
/* $8010 dirs only
/* $0000 read/write, no attribs
/* $0001 read-only files
/* $0002 hidden files
/* $0004 system files
/* $0020 archives
/* $2000 LB_DIR flag
/* $4000 drives
/* $8000 exclusive bit
/* same for combobox/listbox
~DlgDirList(DLG(0),path$,100,0,$4017)

e! = FALSE
REPEAT
  GETEVENT                              'scan for an event
  IF _Mess = WM_COMMAND
    IF HIWORD(_lParam) = LBN_SELCHANGE    'is it a single click?
      '      BEEP
      e! = TRUE                           'then exit
    ENDIF
  ENDIF
UNTIL e! <> FALSE

'get filename
'allocate buffer to receive string
f$ = SPACE$(255) + CHR$(0)
'get selected filename into buffer
~DlgDirSelect(DLG(0),V:f$,100)
'trim off ending 0 and spaces
f$ = TRIM$(ZTRIM$(f$))

'close the dialog
CLOSEDIALOG #0

f! = FALSE
'open window to display the file selected
OPENW #1
PRINT "Selected filename:"
PRINT f$
DEFPUSHBUTTON "OK",IDOK,20,50,64,24
REPEAT
  GETEVENT                                                  'scan
  IF _Mess = WM_COMMAND AND _wParam = IDOK THEN f! = TRUE   'button click
  IF MENU(1) = 4 THEN f! = TRUE                             'trapclose
UNTIL f! = TRUE
CLOSEW #1
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi Tom !
No seeing Rose this week so all weekend I can work
on Listboxes and Fruity Jam !  :)

--- Tom Record
<tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Sorry, been busy.  This from 2 yrs ago w/ help from
> Dean Hodgson

>Schloorp!< (Healthy size program absorbed into the
             Matrix!) :)

Ok..  I'm looking at that mouse button thingie gosh
guys can't you'll use like MOUSEK like I do ?
Yah I know, that's not doing it the RIGHT way.

'kay Tom it doesn't show Filesizes..  Here's the
scoop.

I need
Filename
  Filesize
    Whether it's ReadOnly/System/Hidden/Flag stuff
      location where it's stored

Buuut I prolly got enough to get me started now.
Thanks !  I'll try to post a
Fat
  File
     Finder
          First

Yah you too can get rid of those pesky fat PKZIP
files all hidden deep within the bowels of your
demon machine.  :)

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
/* dirlst1.lst
FULLW #1
SETFONT OEM_FIXED_FONT
OPEN "o",#1,"log_d2.dat"  /* change to suit........
DEFMOUSE 2
@ListDir("d:\*.*",1)  /* change to suit........
DEFMOUSE 0
CLOSE
KEYGET a%
CLOSEW #1
END


PROCEDURE ListDir(mask$,flag&)
  LOCAL dtasave$
  LOCAL dta% = FGETDTA()
  LOCAL e&,f$,a|,main$,i&
  LOCAL d&,da$,t&,ti$,out$,m$
  main$ = mask$
  i& = RINSTR(main$,"\")
  IF i& = 0 THEN i& = RINSTR(main$,":")
  IF i&
    main$ = LEFT$(main$,i&)
  ELSE
    main$ = ""
  ENDIF
  dtasave$ = PEEK$(dta%,44)
  e& = FSFIRST(mask$,$17) //all files
  m$ = main$
  '  i& = INSTR(m$,"\")
  '  WHILE LEN(m$) > 20
  '    EXIT IF i& = 0
  '    m$ = LEFT$(m$,4) + "..." + MID$(m$,i&)
  '    i& = INSTR(m$,"\",9)
  'WEND
  WHILE e& = 0
    f$ = CHAR{dta% + 30}               //name
    IF LEFT$(f$,1) = "." THEN GOTO SkIp0
    a| = PEEK(dta% + 21)            //attribut
    len% = LPEEK(dta% + 26)
    out$ = ""
    out$ = out$ + m$       //remove for name alone
    out$ = out$ + f$ + " "
    '    GOTO SkIp1
    IF a| & 32
      out$ = out$ + "A"
    ELSE
      out$ = out$ + "-"
    ENDIF
    IF a| & 16
      out$ = out$ + "D"
    ELSE
      out$ = out$ + "-"
    ENDIF
    IF a| & 4
      out$ = out$ + "S"
    ELSE
      out$ = out$ + "-"
    ENDIF
    IF a| & 2
      out$ = out$ + "H"
    ELSE
      out$ = out$ + "-"
    ENDIF
    IF a| & 1
      out$ = out$ + "R"
    ELSE
      out$ = out$ + "-"
    ENDIF
    out$ = out$ + " "
    '    SkIp1:
    '    out$ = LEFT$(out$ + SPACE$(25),25)      //format to 50 Characters
    '   GOTO SkIp2
    d& = DPEEK(dta% + 24)                         //Datum
    da$ = DEC$(d& & 31,2)                       //Tag
    da$ = da$ + "/"
    da$ = da$ + DEC$(SHR&(d&,4) & 15,2)           //Monat
    da$ = da$ + "/"
    da$ = da$ + DEC$(1980 + (SHR&(d&,9) & 127))   //Jahr
    '    out$ = LEFT$(out$ + SPACE$(50),50)      //format to 50 Characters
    out$ = out$ + da$ + " "
    t& = DPEEK(dta% + 22)                         //Zeit
    ti$ = DEC$(SHR&(t&,11) & 31,2)               //Stunde
    ti$ = ti$ + ":"
    ti$ = ti$ + DEC$(SHR&(t&,5) & 63,2)           //Minute
    ti$ = ti$ + ":"
    ti$ = ti$ + DEC$((t& & 31) * 2,2)               //Sekunde
    out$ = out$ + ti$ + " "
    '    SkIp2:
    IF ~a| & 16
      out$ = out$ + STR$(len%,8)
    ELSE
      out$ = out$ + "   <DIR>"
    ENDIF
    PRINT #1,out$
    IF a| & $10 && flag& && ASC(f$) != 46
      //      PRINT ">>>>";f$
      @ListDir(main$ + f$ + "\*.*",flag& + 1)
    ENDIF
    SkIp0:
    e& = FSNEXT()
  WEND
  POKE$ dta%,dtasave$
RETURN




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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi Tom:

I had to think for a second what was going on
here.  Yah WAY over my head but RIGHT on target for
the kind of info I'm looking for.

I'll be schnookered if I have to use this exact
coding !  Let me see if I can find out what's going
on here cause I hate to add code I don't understand.
:)

Did you write this or is it a combined effort
or single effort of someone else ?

It nailed out ALL of Drive D, PDQ !

(reading more of code...)

Thank you KINDLY for this not requiring RECORD
variables !  The only examples I've seen that make
use of FSFirst require RECORD variables which
I truly despise which is the main reason I've
avoid using then FSFirst and its other host of
hard file seek goodies !  Good job !

I think with this file I can finish up FFF and
Shockwave Wizard.

Really do appreciate the help !  :)

Russell has sent example of multi-column
listbox.  I'll prolly just use the monospace
character set will see..

You all have given me a ton to work with over the
weekend (WHEW!)

Sincerely,
David W.


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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
David

This is a combination of something I found (w/o author's name), the helpfile
& my
imagination & ingenuity.

You can feed this data into a listbox instead of a disk file if you wish.
It's easy!
You may "have to use this coding" if you want it to be complete & formatted
this way.
Shorten it & make it work, them give me a copy.  I use this in various forms
in a
couple of dozen appls... wouldn't mind it being smaller.

Almost exactly as this, I log all drives & disks, giving me a searchable db
of all
the files I have around me.  NOTHING escapes it.
<G>
TomR.


At 05:47 PM 14/07/00 -0700, you wrote:
>List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Hi Tom:
>
>I had to think for a second what was going on
>here.  Yah WAY over my head but RIGHT on target for
>the kind of info I'm looking for.
>
>I'll be schnookered if I have to use this exact
>coding !  Let me see if I can find out what's going
>on here cause I hate to add code I don't understand.
>:)
>
>Did you write this or is it a combined effort
>or single effort of someone else ?
>
>It nailed out ALL of Drive D, PDQ !
>
>(reading more of code...)
>
>Thank you KINDLY for this not requiring RECORD
>variables !  The only examples I've seen that make
>use of FSFirst require RECORD variables which
>I truly despise which is the main reason I've
>avoid using then FSFirst and its other host of
>hard file seek goodies !  Good job !
>
>I think with this file I can finish up FFF and
>Shockwave Wizard.
>
>Really do appreciate the help !  :)
>
>Russell has sent example of multi-column
>listbox.  I'll prolly just use the monospace
>character set will see..
>
>You all have given me a ton to work with over the
>weekend (WHEW!)
>
>Sincerely,
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What does the getwindowsversion routine come up with for Win98?
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Tom, dunno what  'getwindowsversion' returns but 'getversion' returns 395 on
my Windows98 beast.
:-)
Mike
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> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Thanks, Mike.
Looks like trouble ahead, then.  A lot of things written on Win98 are going
to be
Win98 specific.  Was hoping to be able to detect it without locking somebody
down.

LOTS of goodies are Win95+ specific, so won't run on Win3.1.  I try to avoid
those.
Problem is, the easiest spinners are sorta built-in to Win95.  There are others.

So... how they hangin?  4 in the morning here, so I'm about to hang it up.
Tired!
<G>
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>Tom, dunno what  'getwindowsversion' returns but 'getversion' returns 395 on
>my Windows98 beast.
>:-)
>Mike
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hey Tom:

--- Tom Record
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> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> David
>=20
> This is a combination of something I found (w/o
> author's name), the helpfile
> & my
> imagination & ingenuity.

* I tell ya recursive programming is HARD on my little
  brain !  I can see how it's useful but trying to
  follow writing it and stuff it's like playing Chess
  thinking 10 moves ahead !  :/
>=20
> You can feed this data into a listbox instead of a
> disk file if you wish.

* Did and Done !
  How do I read one or more into a string like:

  FOR I =3D 0 TO 9
    PRINT Contents$(-1,ID,I)
  NEXT I

  So it would print out the string contents for
  items in the listbox #0 - #9 where ID is the ID #
  for the Listbox ?

  I could read them in from the text-file but if I
  do random reading with recursion that could get a
  bit hectic with-out the name to plink out all
  instant-like.

> It's easy!
> You may "have to use this coding" if you want it to
> be complete & formatted
> this way.
> Shorten it & make it work, them give me a copy.  I
> use this in various forms
> in a
> couple of dozen appls... wouldn't mind it being
> smaller.

* Yah those multi-If were a bit much for the
  attributes of the files - I prefer my mini-
  functions to clean that stuff up like that.  :)
>=20
> Almost exactly as this, I log all drives & disks,
> giving me a searchable db
> of all
> the files I have around me.  NOTHING escapes it.
> <G>

* Well this new written of it should not ESCAPE
  anything !  All ready I am working on FFF so I can
  archive my some odd 6000 MIDI files !  That Windows
  explorer is nice but I need =3DEXACT=3D byte size for
  my stuff !

* Is there an easier way to find a Free File Handle
  then my FF Function ?

Sincerely,
David W.


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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Okay you guys, you too Tom hope you appreciate this !
This was a LOT of work and introduces recursive
programming which I've never done before.
(saw a bit of it in the original coding)

Thanks to Tom, Russell, and Gustavo for their
assistance in this project !

Comes with sample DIR2.___ to see just how
USEFUL this little program can be for extracting
out raw information on large areas.

Enjoy and please give credit if you use it or if
you borrow the source !

That means you Tom !  :)
[enclosed]

* * * GFAForum won't take it too big, 31k ??
(SIGH)
http://www.geocities.com/dw817/temp/filelist.zip

Sincerely,
David W.

Sorry Dale this is one-shot, please don't post in
the GFA16 Archives..

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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Mine says 4.10
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
That's odd, mine returns 4.10
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> Tom, dunno what  'getwindowsversion' returns but 'getversion' returns 395
on
> my Windows98 beast.
> :-)
> Mike
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
David
I've been up since noon yesterday & it's 8:35 a.m.  I'll answer all of this
a bit later
if you don't mind.  I'm afraid my answers wouldn't be very good right now.
I'll also
send you an example of adding & getting back the text from the listbox.
<G>
TomR.



At 05:45 AM 15/07/00 -0700, you wrote:
>List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Hey Tom:
>
>--- Tom Record
><tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> List Member Tom Record
>> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> David
>>=20
>> This is a combination of something I found (w/o
>> author's name), the helpfile
>> & my
>> imagination & ingenuity.
>
>* I tell ya recursive programming is HARD on my little
>  brain !  I can see how it's useful but trying to
>  follow writing it and stuff it's like playing Chess
>  thinking 10 moves ahead !  :/
>>=20
>> You can feed this data into a listbox instead of a
>> disk file if you wish.
>
>* Did and Done !
>  How do I read one or more into a string like:
>
>  FOR I =3D 0 TO 9
>    PRINT Contents$(-1,ID,I)
>  NEXT I
>
>  So it would print out the string contents for
>  items in the listbox #0 - #9 where ID is the ID #
>  for the Listbox ?
>
>  I could read them in from the text-file but if I
>  do random reading with recursion that could get a
>  bit hectic with-out the name to plink out all
>  instant-like.
>
>> It's easy!
>> You may "have to use this coding" if you want it to
>> be complete & formatted
>> this way.
>> Shorten it & make it work, them give me a copy.  I
>> use this in various forms
>> in a
>> couple of dozen appls... wouldn't mind it being
>> smaller.
>
>* Yah those multi-If were a bit much for the
>  attributes of the files - I prefer my mini-
>  functions to clean that stuff up like that.  :)
>>=20
>> Almost exactly as this, I log all drives & disks,
>> giving me a searchable db
>> of all
>> the files I have around me.  NOTHING escapes it.
>> <G>
>
>* Well this new written of it should not ESCAPE
>  anything !  All ready I am working on FFF so I can
>  archive my some odd 6000 MIDI files !  That Windows
>  explorer is nice but I need =3DEXACT=3D byte size for
>  my stuff !
>
>* Is there an easier way to find a Free File Handle
>  then my FF Function ?
>
>Sincerely,
>David W.
>
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At 06:03 AM 15/07/00 -0700, you wrote:
>List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Okay you guys, you too Tom hope you appreciate this !
>This was a LOT of work and introduces recursive
>programming which I've never done before.
>(saw a bit of it in the original coding)
>
>Thanks to Tom, Russell, and Gustavo for their
>assistance in this project !
>
>Comes with sample DIR2.___ to see just how
>USEFUL this little program can be for extracting
>out raw information on large areas.
>
>Enjoy and please give credit if you use it or if
>you borrow the source !
>
>That means you Tom !  :)
>

I REALLY like those shots in the behind, David.  When I do know who the hell
wrote=20
something I use, they get a thankyou directly, on the list, &/or in the
file, itself.

>
>[enclosed]
>
>* * * GFAForum won't take it too big, 31k ??
>(SIGH)
>http://www.geocities.com/dw817/temp/filelist.zip
>
>Sincerely,
>David W.
>
>Sorry Dale this is one-shot, please don't post in
>the GFA16 Archives..
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Thanks, Dale.
This one is confusing!
<G>
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>List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
>Mine says 4.10
>dale
>http://gfawhelp.gfa.net
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>adbryant@msn.com
>
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>Subject: [gfabasic] version
>
>
>> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> What does the getwindowsversion routine come up with for Win98?
>> <G>
>> TomR.
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi Tom !

Well I'm learning more and more about Registry stuff..
To any interested, there's a .EXE in C:\WINDOWS
called REGEDIT.EXE , bring it up go to

HKEY_CURRENT_USER

click on it or right arrow then

Software

click or right arrow on that

OKEE !!  Neat stuff, choose the file that is limitware
but you wanna see more what it can do, check in it
for numbers and stuff.  Find the # for limit of days
and pop it down a bit..

If this doesn't work you can zap the whole registry
info on this one software co.

If this doesn't work they're using either a hidden
file in the directory it was stored or a straight-out
.INI or .CFG file in C:\WINDOWS\

Change or zap those too.
Check for all 3 and you're in good shape !
I can't promise this to work every time but should
work MOST of the time.  :)

- - -
=20
> I REALLY like those shots in the behind, David.=20

* Yah well don't wave that target in front of me.  :)

> When I do know who the hell
> wrote=20
> something I use, they get a thankyou directly, on
> the list, &/or in the
> file, itself.

* I can never now or in the future never ever see even
  the .EXE of   what you write or written commercially
  so I have to go on 100% faith.

(And they want us to believe in God too?) :)

Well Tom I guess I get all frustrated cause I'm
writing and posting stuff and my name never gets
dropped or mentioned on ANYTHING others have posted so
it's frustrating you know and I all of ways mention
whoever helped me in my stuff some times with or
without their consent.  :)

See it from my viewpoint too, all I'm asking is a
postcard and you're all ready in commercial selling
packages and stuff I never see and I guess never will.

I have no idea where my stuff goes.
I have no idea who uses it in their commercial stuff.
Who wouldn't be concerned ?

I was thinking about posting the source to you 3
people that helped me only but said what the hey let's
try to teach some decent programming right ?

Remember Tom it's the same story.
The Tangible Certificate

Dale tho DOES mention my name in the newsletters
for credit.

Someimes I gotta tweak his ear but he remembers.  :)

Sincerely,
David W.

* Well, next on the horizon it can only be FFF !
  Fat File Finder, sort all your directores, drives,
  you name it into one fat file and you click and
  zap/move/copy that file to do other things !

* Eventually I'll get back to Wizard Importer and
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List Member "Russell Hayward" <russ@softhome.net> wrote:

Hi David,

>   How do I read one or more into a string like:
>
>   FOR I = 0 TO 9
>     PRINT Contents$(-1,ID,I)
>   NEXT I
>
>   So it would print out the string contents for
>   items in the listbox #0 - #9 where ID is the ID #
>   for the Listbox ?

This is how to print the first 10 items in a listbox:

FOR i=0 TO 9
  Buf$=STRING$(SendMessage(ListBox&,LB_GETTEXTLEN,i,0)+1,0)
  ~SendMessage(ListBox&,LB_GETTEXT,i,V:Buf$)
  PRINT ZTRIM$(Buf$)
NEXT i

ListBox& is the handle of the listbox, I think for what you want this would
be set to DLGITEM(-1,ID). All the listbox messages you can send are listed
in the Windows 3.1 SDK on the page titled 'List box messages'.

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List Member "John Findlay" <John.Findlay@Byte-it.net> wrote:

Tom and Dale,

GetVersion() returns 3.95 when run with GFA16 and 4.10 when run with GB32.
GFA16 will use the kernel and GB32 will use kernel32.dll

16BIT;
dwVersion% = GetVersion()
s$ = "Windows version " + STR$(LOBYTE(LOWORD(dwVersion%)))
s$ = s$ + "." + STR$(HIBYTE(LOWORD(dwVersion%)))
PRINT s$
KEYGET i
CLOSEW #1

32BIT:
Local Int dwVersion = GetVersion(), i
Print sprintf("Windows version %d.%d\n", _
  LoByte(LoWord(dwVersion)), HiByte(LoWord(dwVersion)))
KeyGet i
CloseW # 1

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi Russell !
No Fun Bundles this week, getting all busy again.  :)

--- Russell Hayward <russ@softhome.net> wrote:
>=20
> This is how to print the first 10 items in a
> listbox:
>=20
> FOR i=3D0 TO 9
> =20
>
Buf$=3DSTRING$(SendMessage(ListBox&,LB_GETTEXTLEN,i,0)+1,0)
>   ~SendMessage(ListBox&,LB_GETTEXT,i,V:Buf$)
>   PRINT ZTRIM$(Buf$)
> NEXT i
>=20

* Ah !  Very close to what I found in the WM_ help
  file.

  A$ =3D STRING$(255," ")
  ~SendMessage(DLGITEM(-1,1),LB_GETTEXT,I,V:A$)

* But I like yours better cause it getting the right
  length !

> ListBox& is the handle of the listbox, I think for
> what you want this would
> be set to DLGITEM(-1,ID). All the listbox messages
> you can send are listed
> in the Windows 3.1 SDK on the page titled 'List box
> messages'.

* This is true, but the examples I can only find in
  Dale's custom help files and only by doing the
  Find not Index and typing in the WM_ message
  I need to know how it is working.

* I think the WM_ Helpfile was not made for GFABasic?
  but C++ of all things.  >Yech!<  :)

* I'm now working on finding the entire length of
  the listbox, my FileList LB_GETCOUNT only works
  cause it goes a really high # but not the right
  amount so I written it wrong.  :/

Sincerely,
David W.

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John, you just know too much!<G>

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> List Member "John Findlay" <John.Findlay@Byte-it.net> wrote:
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> Tom and Dale,
>
> GetVersion() returns 3.95 when run with GFA16 and 4.10 when run with GB32.
> GFA16 will use the kernel and GB32 will use kernel32.dll
>
> 16BIT;
> dwVersion% = GetVersion()
> s$ = "Windows version " + STR$(LOBYTE(LOWORD(dwVersion%)))
> s$ = s$ + "." + STR$(HIBYTE(LOWORD(dwVersion%)))
> PRINT s$
> KEYGET i
> CLOSEW #1
>
> 32BIT:
> Local Int dwVersion = GetVersion(), i
> Print sprintf("Windows version %d.%d\n", _
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> CloseW # 1
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--- Dale Bryant <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com>
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> John, you just know too much!<G>
>=20
> http://gfawhelp.gfa.net
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> adbryant@gfa.net
> adbryant@msn.com

Yah well Dale sometimes you just wanna keep
plugging at something till you get it.
That's the mark of a good programmer !

Oh here is nice MIDI I was listening to earlier
sorting thru my MINI MIDI list.  Remember it's just
a PKZIP with my funny extension name.
[enclosed]

Sincerely,
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Okay I can see some real true potential for a filebox.
In Scenario, there are hundreds of elements that all
vary in size.  The least of which might be for simple
mapping a script associated with each pointer
position.
To do this effectively I would need to be able to
create a listbox and then make it invisible but I can
still put things in it and take them out.  This would
allow me to work with an infinitely large data table
that can be inserted to, deleted from, changed, moved,
copied, compressed, or activated.

Aaand how many characters per line in a listbox are
you allowed ?  Is it 255 or less ?  I'd like it to
be maybe up to 32767 char. across per line so I
can insert strings use single 32767 strings as a
3-D or 4-D data element intuitive table.

Okay how do I in dialog windows/buttons/ make use of
the TAB key to jump from one to an other.
I know it's the SETTABSTOPS but how does it work like
for instance going between two text buttons ?

I see that's really missing in my=20

- - -

Tom, I don't mean to get crossways with you I guess
I'm still waiting for my postcard from you..

Just an hour ago I played a MIDI file that was mine.
It was my music note per note with subtle variations.
Someone heard this music and copied it all most
entirely..  I - deleted it right then now because I
was very angry..  I haven't played a piano in over
10 years and even when I did then I had folks ripping
my original music Dad had to help me we did lawsuit
after lawsuit (SIGH) ..  I just don't want this to
happen again.  It - surprises me that as long as its
been since I played the piano that someone got away
with ripping one of my some odd 80+ original
compositions and undoubtedly marketed it.  The notes
in it are much too complex and intricate to
accidentally create.  There's a pattern of better
then 50 notes one-after-another from my own music
and scale changing, chord adjustment, and mood
colorizer all that in my music..Taken again..?  ;(

I am happy to say this and maybe one other MIDI from
two years ago are the only ones that have been taken.
I try to make my piano music complex enough no-one
can ever guess it so it's a sorta encryption.

Sincerely,
David W.

--- David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> --- Dale Bryant <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> > List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com>
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> > John, you just know too much!<G>
> >=20
> > http://gfawhelp.gfa.net
> > http://gfawhelp.com
> > adbryant@gfa.net
> > adbryant@msn.com
>=20
> Yah well Dale sometimes you just wanna keep
> plugging at something till you get it.
> That's the mark of a good programmer !
>=20
> Oh here is nice MIDI I was listening to earlier
> sorting thru my MINI MIDI list.  Remember it's just
> a PKZIP with my funny extension name.
> [enclosed]
>=20
> Sincerely,
> David W.
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
David

You said you wanted a POSTAL POSTCARD sent thru the mail, NOT a scanned
image.  Well,
the bus station is the only place I know of where they can be purchased
around here & 
that's about 6 miles from here.

The nearest place to me where I can mail something is nearly 1/2 mile from
here.  That
is my limit for walking, particularly in this heat.

If I give something to someone else to mail, it must have postage on it or
they have to
sidetrack to a postoffice where there are clerks because the nearest to me
is unmanned
& stamps cost nearly double in that machine.

So... I guess you're S.O.L. in *my* case, but not because I intended it so.
To avoid
conflict, the only thing I use of yours is that MP3 player routine & I can
delete it
as I did all the rest if you wish.  I have a little more involved routine
from Ulli
that I also use to test MP3 construction.  I can go to it completely.

TomR.

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
David

I am NOT yet "selling commercially", so you're NOT being screwed from MY=
 end!

I will delete all that pertains to you, including the e-mail so there will
be NO chance
I might inadvertantly use something you wrote without taking an ad in the
New York
Times or the Wall Street Journal.

I will ask one last time to PLEASE stop taking nasty pokes & cuts at me on
this list!

Do NOT send me anything, do NOT expect anything further from me.  Enough is
enough!

TomR.



At 07:27 AM 15/07/00 -0700, you wrote:
>List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Hi Tom !
>
>Well I'm learning more and more about Registry stuff..
>To any interested, there's a .EXE in C:\WINDOWS
>called REGEDIT.EXE , bring it up go to
>
>HKEY_CURRENT_USER
>
>click on it or right arrow then
>
>Software
>
>click or right arrow on that
>
>OKEE !!  Neat stuff, choose the file that is limitware
>but you wanna see more what it can do, check in it
>for numbers and stuff.  Find the # for limit of days
>and pop it down a bit..
>
>If this doesn't work you can zap the whole registry
>info on this one software co.
>
>If this doesn't work they're using either a hidden
>file in the directory it was stored or a straight-out
>.INI or .CFG file in C:\WINDOWS\
>
>Change or zap those too.
>Check for all 3 and you're in good shape !
>I can't promise this to work every time but should
>work MOST of the time.  :)
>
>- - -
>=20
>> I REALLY like those shots in the behind, David.=20
>
>* Yah well don't wave that target in front of me.  :)
>
>> When I do know who the hell
>> wrote=20
>> something I use, they get a thankyou directly, on
>> the list, &/or in the
>> file, itself.
>
>* I can never now or in the future never ever see even
>  the .EXE of   what you write or written commercially
>  so I have to go on 100% faith.
>
>(And they want us to believe in God too?) :)
>
>Well Tom I guess I get all frustrated cause I'm
>writing and posting stuff and my name never gets
>dropped or mentioned on ANYTHING others have posted so
>it's frustrating you know and I all of ways mention
>whoever helped me in my stuff some times with or
>without their consent.  :)
>
>See it from my viewpoint too, all I'm asking is a
>postcard and you're all ready in commercial selling
>packages and stuff I never see and I guess never will.
>
>I have no idea where my stuff goes.
>I have no idea who uses it in their commercial stuff.
>Who wouldn't be concerned ?
>
>I was thinking about posting the source to you 3
>people that helped me only but said what the hey let's
>try to teach some decent programming right ?
>
>Remember Tom it's the same story.
>The Tangible Certificate
>
>Dale tho DOES mention my name in the newsletters
>for credit.
>
>Someimes I gotta tweak his ear but he remembers.  :)
>
>Sincerely,
>David W.
>
>* Well, next on the horizon it can only be FFF !
>  Fat File Finder, sort all your directores, drives,
>  you name it into one fat file and you click and
>  zap/move/copy that file to do other things !
>
>* Eventually I'll get back to Wizard Importer and
>  Fruity Jam with this new knowledge !  :)
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Thanks, John.
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At 04:10 PM 15/07/00 +0100, you wrote:
>List Member "John Findlay" <John.Findlay@Byte-it.net> wrote:
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>Tom and Dale,
>
>GetVersion() returns 3.95 when run with GFA16 and 4.10 when run with GB32.
>GFA16 will use the kernel and GB32 will use kernel32.dll
>
>16BIT;
>dwVersion% = GetVersion()
>s$ = "Windows version " + STR$(LOBYTE(LOWORD(dwVersion%)))
>s$ = s$ + "." + STR$(HIBYTE(LOWORD(dwVersion%)))
>PRINT s$
>KEYGET i
>CLOSEW #1
>
>32BIT:
>Local Int dwVersion = GetVersion(), i
>Print sprintf("Windows version %d.%d\n", _
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Ok... one way around all this rock pile:
query winver.exe for it's versinfo or make a text run on win.com.  Neither
method uses
a built-in function, so neither is dependent on platform or OS for results.

In truth, I discovered that a lot of things use quartz.dll to render
MPEGAudio, so I
switched to checking *that* module's versnumber.  95's original is v2,
MediaPlayer 
6.4's is 5. I donno what MediaPlayer v7 (Win98) has, but will bet it's 5 or
higher.
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Greets Tom:

--- Tom Record
<tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> David
>=20
> You said you wanted a POSTAL POSTCARD sent thru the
> mail, NOT a scanned
> image.  Well,
> the bus station is the only place I know of where
> they can be purchased
> around here &=20
> that's about 6 miles from here.
>=20
> The nearest place to me where I can mail something
> is nearly 1/2 mile from
> here.  That
> is my limit for walking, particularly in this heat.
>=20
> If I give something to someone else to mail, it must
> have postage on it or
> they have to
> sidetrack to a postoffice where there are clerks
> because the nearest to me
> is unmanned
> & stamps cost nearly double in that machine.
>=20
> So... I guess you're S.O.L. in *my* case, but not
> because I intended it so.
> To avoid
> conflict, the only thing I use of yours is that MP3
> player routine & I can
> delete it
> as I did all the rest if you wish.  I have a little
> more involved routine
> from Ulli
> that I also use to test MP3 construction.  I can go
> to it completely.
>=20
> TomR.

Nono..  If it is impossible to send a postcard
(and I guess I never thought it would be of some-one),
..

You have no transportation I forgot this I get a bus
that comes to my home or 6 block distance pick-up
from home.

Tom..  I don't want you to zap all my stuff cause I
think some of it teaches stuff may-be ?

I guess - I guess I'm frustrated cause I only see
Rose now once every 2 weeks, landlord is hassling me
to sell my car since I'm not driving it, one of my
VCRs gave out completely, a set of Christmas lights
I keep lit in my room went out for good, and my
computer is now crashing about 12x a day where I
gotta power down..

Yah I know you have nothing to do with this but may-be
I'm trying to take this out on some-one and may-be
cause you're into commercial ventures which I'll
never be it gets to me that some-one can succeed in
their life whereas I'm so incompetent the government
pays me monthly cause I'm handicapped or some-thing ?

Yet I'm apparently writing some decent code ?
And my Dr. wants copies of all it for reference
he says ?

Aaand I haven't gotten one postcard I mean not one
zero zip from anywhere and I've got like a bunch of
hits to my homepage so some people are there I guess..

I guess I need to be the first to send a postcard so
I will to everyone nice ones maybe show just how easy
it is and brighten up everyone's day.

Tom if not here in private would like your home
address or PO Box I promise I won't send a lit bomb.
:)

Russell, if you'd like one too same for you.
Gustavo also.
Also Dale and Mr. Loock.

I earn enough money from disability I can send a
postcard to each and every-one of you and I will
if you'll let me and I get like $20 per
week allowance from Dad to pay for every thing.

Even if I didn't have the bus to help me, I could
call on a friend to take me from here if even for
a short while to enjoy a grocery store or shopping
somewhere..  That can happen.

Tom I'd like to think I'm not your only friend
and that you are truly alone ?

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi Tom:

--- Tom Record
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> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> David
>=20
> I am NOT yet "selling commercially", so you're NOT
> being screwed from MY end!
>=20
> I will delete all that pertains to you, including
> the e-mail so there will
> be NO chance
> I might inadvertantly use something you wrote
> without taking an ad in the
> New York
> Times or the Wall Street Journal.
>=20
> I will ask one last time to PLEASE stop taking nasty
> pokes & cuts at me on
> this list!
>=20
> Do NOT send me anything, do NOT expect anything
> further from me.  Enough is
> enough!
>=20
> TomR.

Tom I apologize for venting, it had to go some-where..
I never - I never realized that you were incapable of
mobility at all and that you have to travel entirely
on foot to get anywheres..

Tom I worked really really hard on that FileList
thingie apparently the hell no-one in GFA cares about
it cause I haven't got back one word on how much they
terribly despise it and hate it..

I know - I know you, Russell, Engelbert, Gustavo,
Dale, and several others help me which is why I'm in
this GFAForum and doubtless it would be harder for me
to program without your assistance but dammit when I
write something really REALLY good at least SOME-ONE
say:

Hey that's neat David !
Wow works great this end !
Congratulations on your first recursive procedure !
Super job, keep it up !

Man this medicine works really good makes me wanna
pass out first before I get all worked upset and
cutting--

Tom, I don't know what gets you going in the morning,
coffee, a kiss from a girlfriend, the sun in the sky,
music on the radio, or the local news--

But when Dad called to check on me today I told him
about you being nice and sending code to read whole
drive and how I written my own version he was REALLY
really excited he sayed "Reads the WHOLE drive ?
That's super !  Can you write me one that finds all my
lost PKZIP files on the computer for all drives ?
Yes, great !  Wrote your own first recursive routine
they're hard aren't they I'm really proud of you
Andrew I'll get to see it when I come back Sunday--"

Cause Dad went to Colorado and they got nice mountains
and stuff with snow I can't mail you a snowball Tom
I'm sorry.. but I can send you a postcard of a snowy
mountain somewhere maybe..

Sincerely,
David

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List Member "Mike Fooks" <Mick.Fooks@btinternet.com> wrote:
OK going for full LOL!
Bev's Help -  Windows Version reports 3.95
Bev's Help - Getwindowsversion reports 19.9

Microsoft - help -About gives just plain Windows98

Bet you wish you hadn't asked

Mike :-))

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> List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> That's odd, mine returns 4.10
> dale
> http://gfawhelp.gfa.net
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>
> ----- Original Message -----
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>
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> > List Member "Mike Fooks" <Mick.Fooks@btinternet.com> wrote:
> > Tom, dunno what  'getwindowsversion' returns but 'getversion' returns
395
> on
> > my Windows98 beast.
> > :-)
> > Mike
> > ----- Original Message -----
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> >
> >
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> > > <G>
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Okay this listbox is interesting !
Here's some tips..

If you want it to be ACTIVE, that is you don't have
to click in it to get it started use:

~SetFocus(DLGITEM(-1,1))
^ This was actually in my normal help file

And it's keyboard ready instantly.  :)

If you want to use it just to store items but not
be visible give it a size of 0,0,0,0

LISTBOX "",1,0,0,0,0,LBS_STANDARD | LBS_EXTENDEDSEL |
LBS_NOTIFY

LBS_STANDARD says to make a nice box around it
LBS_EXTENDEDSEL says to allow multiple highlighted

The new flag, LBS_NOTIFY tells it to return any
keystrokes to _Mess using Russell's patent pending
RawKeyFinder:

K$ =3D ""
IF _Mess =3D WM_CHAR THEN K$ =3D CHR$(_wParam)

This could be good for say hitting the DEL key to
erase an entry and stuff

I still don't know how to do TABS from one field to
the next but I'm getting there.  :)

Hope This Helps !

Sincerely,
David W.

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Hi..

Well Tom as you have so often sent me a gift picture
in the past, so I am sending one to you..
[enclosed]

I have found two interesting things..  I was upset
so I stopped programming for a bit to look up some
anime pictures and came across an interesting term:

Super-Deformed

What it means is the picture is done VERY VERY cute
done well where everything is cute okay !  :)

Feeling better got back into GFA and brought up the
resource generator wondering if I should write my
own that saves ASCII insert code like I did in QBasic.
BUT it all ready provides it !

You do NOT need to call the .RCS file but can include
direct ASCII Insert by okay do this:

ALT-S to bring it up
drag it with the mouse so you can see all the dots
this is a grid yah easy right !  :)

Tap on the ABC button on the left to add a simple
button now double click on it to bring up stuff
yah lots to see change the ID # for it by clicking
on Options..

Ready to save it not as a .RCS file but that's okay
for saving your work template, but I heard all kinds
of troubles in GFA with compiled .EXEs and .RCSs so
avoi the hassle and save it direct to your source-
code [F]ile - Send [L]st ..  neat a copy in your
source code !

Yah its tons easier then doing all the math in your
head it was a LOT of work to get those two tiny
little windows & buttons in Wizard Importer, this
should help and in other buttons & stuff too !

Okay those of you ROTFL this is NEW stuff to me
soooo working on FFF will be easier now right okay ?

Hope This Helps !

Sincerely,
David W.

Hey Tom if the picture isn't bright enough just
tighten up the gamma a bit.  :)

Enjoy !

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
OK..  The RCS has a lot of errors in it a great
bunches
of a-lot sooo I see I need to make one, let's see
backtrack all my other projects now and make a decent
dialog editor myself.

Oh yah it's a little too mouse intensive my mouse
wrist is all sore..  :/

I'll post it when it's all done.
Aaaand it'll have a menu maker too.
Yah you need all these neat things to make good
programs !  :)

Sincerely,
David W.



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From: Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: [gfabasic] now I'm getting p!$$ed
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Last try!
David
I'm 62.  4 yrs ago, I was run over by a 40mph car, shattering both legs from
the knee
down & breaking my right arm & shoulder, pulling all my ribs loose at both
ends.  The
guy got NO ticket for no insurance, but I wiped out his bumper, grill, hood
& wind-
shield.  The bastard caught me stepping up onto the curb w/ my right foot!

I don't walk very far, NOT AT ALL fast, damned seldom, & NEVER try to carry
much!!!  A
trip to the stamp machine needs about an hour to do.

My wife is in Italy for the summer - necessary to keep her pension (retired
from the
Italian govn't).  My daughter comes between 6 & 9 to fix supper.  Even when
here, my
wife does NOT run all over town to please me... she works & I have to fit in
around=20
a very crazy, ever-changing schedual.  I suspect she's growing tired of my
needs.  *I*
am growing tired of my needs! I was once very productive, now almost totally
dependent.

Rose - 2 weeks?  Christ al mousy!  It's been over 22 years for me!!

Stop takin potshots at me!  I have NEVER tried to screw you around - I have
sent you
tons of help & things... some repayment I get.  Leave me the hell alone,=
 David!

TomR.



At 02:03 PM 15/07/00 -0700, you wrote:
>List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Greets Tom:
>
>--- Tom Record
><tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> List Member Tom Record
>> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> David
>>=20
>> You said you wanted a POSTAL POSTCARD sent thru the
>> mail, NOT a scanned
>> image.  Well,
>> the bus station is the only place I know of where
>> they can be purchased
>> around here &=20
>> that's about 6 miles from here.
>>=20
>> The nearest place to me where I can mail something
>> is nearly 1/2 mile from
>> here.  That
>> is my limit for walking, particularly in this heat.
>>=20
>> If I give something to someone else to mail, it must
>> have postage on it or
>> they have to
>> sidetrack to a postoffice where there are clerks
>> because the nearest to me
>> is unmanned
>> & stamps cost nearly double in that machine.
>>=20
>> So... I guess you're S.O.L. in *my* case, but not
>> because I intended it so.
>> To avoid
>> conflict, the only thing I use of yours is that MP3
>> player routine & I can
>> delete it
>> as I did all the rest if you wish.  I have a little
>> more involved routine
>> from Ulli
>> that I also use to test MP3 construction.  I can go
>> to it completely.
>>=20
>> TomR.
>
>Nono..  If it is impossible to send a postcard
>(and I guess I never thought it would be of some-one),
>..
>
>You have no transportation I forgot this I get a bus
>that comes to my home or 6 block distance pick-up
>from home.
>
>Tom..  I don't want you to zap all my stuff cause I
>think some of it teaches stuff may-be ?
>
>I guess - I guess I'm frustrated cause I only see
>Rose now once every 2 weeks, landlord is hassling me
>to sell my car since I'm not driving it, one of my
>VCRs gave out completely, a set of Christmas lights
>I keep lit in my room went out for good, and my
>computer is now crashing about 12x a day where I
>gotta power down..
>
>Yah I know you have nothing to do with this but may-be
>I'm trying to take this out on some-one and may-be
>cause you're into commercial ventures which I'll
>never be it gets to me that some-one can succeed in
>their life whereas I'm so incompetent the government
>pays me monthly cause I'm handicapped or some-thing ?
>
>Yet I'm apparently writing some decent code ?
>And my Dr. wants copies of all it for reference
>he says ?
>
>Aaand I haven't gotten one postcard I mean not one
>zero zip from anywhere and I've got like a bunch of
>hits to my homepage so some people are there I guess..
>
>I guess I need to be the first to send a postcard so
>I will to everyone nice ones maybe show just how easy
>it is and brighten up everyone's day.
>
>Tom if not here in private would like your home
>address or PO Box I promise I won't send a lit bomb.
>:)
>
>Russell, if you'd like one too same for you.
>Gustavo also.
>Also Dale and Mr. Loock.
>
>I earn enough money from disability I can send a
>postcard to each and every-one of you and I will
>if you'll let me and I get like $20 per
>week allowance from Dad to pay for every thing.
>
>Even if I didn't have the bus to help me, I could
>call on a friend to take me from here if even for
>a short while to enjoy a grocery store or shopping
>somewhere..  That can happen.
>
>Tom I'd like to think I'm not your only friend
>and that you are truly alone ?
>
>Sincerely,
>David W.
>
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Laugh, Mike.   <G>
That's the way things have gone from the beginning <G>.  Ok... I gave up on
the built
in function & decided to go for versinfo in winver.exe.  Can also scan
win.com with a
text scanner - either one will tell me what version Windows is.

I just wanted to avoid some problems that crop up because of upgrades.

For the screensavers with sound (or anything else playing MP3), I check
versinfo of
quartz.dll - MediaPlayer's audio renderer.  If it's v2, it's too old.  If
it's v5,
we're in business because it's the last version for 95.  I donno what the
version
of quartz.dll is in 98, MediaPlayer is v7 for that.
<G>
TomR.


At 10:26 PM 15/07/00 +0100, you wrote:
>List Member "Mike Fooks" <Mick.Fooks@btinternet.com> wrote:
>OK going for full LOL!
>Bev's Help -  Windows Version reports 3.95
>Bev's Help - Getwindowsversion reports 19.9
>
>Microsoft - help -About gives just plain Windows98
>
>Bet you wish you hadn't asked
>
>Mike :-))
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Dale Bryant <adbryant@email.msn.com>
>To: <gfabasic@gfa.net>
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>
>
>> List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
>> That's odd, mine returns 4.10
>> dale
>> http://gfawhelp.gfa.net
>> http://gfawhelp.com
>> adbryant@gfa.net
>> adbryant@msn.com
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Mike Fooks <Mick.Fooks@btinternet.com>
>> To: <gfabasic@gfa.net>
>> Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2000 1:43 AM
>> Subject: Re: [gfabasic] version
>>
>>
>> > List Member "Mike Fooks" <Mick.Fooks@btinternet.com> wrote:
>> > Tom, dunno what  'getwindowsversion' returns but 'getversion' returns
>395
>> on
>> > my Windows98 beast.
>> > :-)
>> > Mike
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net>
>> > To: <gfabasic@gfa.net>
>> > Sent: 15 July 2000 04:55
>> > Subject: [gfabasic] version
>> >
>> >
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>> > > What does the getwindowsversion routine come up with for Win98?
>> > > <G>
>> > > TomR.
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Sorry, guys.  I've had it.
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Greets Tom:

--- Tom Record
<tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Last try!
> David
> I'm 62.  4 yrs ago, I was run over by a 40mph car,
> shattering both legs from
> the knee
> down & breaking my right arm & shoulder, pulling all
> my ribs loose at both
> ends.  The
> guy got NO ticket for no insurance, but I wiped out
> his bumper, grill, hood
> & wind-
> shield.  The bastard caught me stepping up onto the
> curb w/ my right foot!
>=20
> I don't walk very far, NOT AT ALL fast, damned
> seldom, & NEVER try to carry
> much!!!  A
> trip to the stamp machine needs about an hour to do.
>=20
> My wife is in Italy for the summer - necessary to
> keep her pension (retired
> from the
> Italian govn't).  My daughter comes between 6 & 9 to
> fix supper.  Even when
> here, my
> wife does NOT run all over town to please me... she
> works & I have to fit in
> around=20
> a very crazy, ever-changing schedual.  I suspect
> she's growing tired of my
> needs.  *I*
> am growing tired of my needs! I was once very
> productive, now almost totally
> dependent.
>=20
> Rose - 2 weeks?  Christ al mousy!  It's been over 22
> years for me!!
>=20
> Stop takin potshots at me!  I have NEVER tried to
> screw you around - I have
> sent you
> tons of help & things... some repayment I get.=20
> Leave me the hell alone, David!
>=20
> TomR.

Tom..  If you are this far destitute, if you are
this far beyond any means of reaching you beyond
all reasoning or even the healing power of time
itself, then you have to decide for yourself what to
do here.  I cannot and will not make that decision
for you.  I have my hand extended but I cannot reach
unless you pull yourself up first and meet me
half-way.
But you must pull yourself up.

For you to be so enraged so livid so outraged at one
small message shows me that I am not the sole and
complete utter only difficulty that you are angered
at in life and that long and hard has this been
chewing away at you with no answer of why this has
been placed upon you, and why you are encumbered to
withstand and uphold under these crippling conditions.
There is more at stake here then a simple message
sent in EMail.  There is the introspection and
accepting of what has happened in the past, cannot be
changed but we are to learn from it.  Our Now is
created by what we decide for the future.

When you grow up you laugh at others..  When you grow
older and wiser you learn to laugh at yourself..
I never really could understand this when I was in my
teens..  I yah sorta understand it now but not
entirely.  :)

For what I wrote you could have said casually,
Hey David I always try to give you credit so lean
on the others guys once in a-while.

Tom..  For all the hardships you have had in this
life and all the encumberances placed upon you I
do not pity you.  For pity is cheap, if you try to
eat it you'll starve, if you try to spend it you'll
go broke.  No all I can offer to you at this point
is friendship.  And there is no-way on God's green
earth I could ever meet you 100% at your level of
perfect friendship.  We are all made each a little
different.  It's what's called the flavor of life
or the colors of the heart.  :)

I accept you for who you are but in turn in order
to have a friend, you have to be one in return.

Now my story Tom, you are not alone..

>From birth until 4 my parents were yelling at each
other constantly.  My sister got into drugs at the
nice young age of 10 and started sniffing paint.
I have had to have mental head scans because of
serious damage and concussions she caused by banging
metal objects on my head when I was younger.
Mostly the phone, cause that was metal back then.

Something happened very bad when I was younger, I
was dull unintelligent and I concentrated too much
on the stillness of a single object to realize the
movement around me.  The brain beatings my sister
gave me were making me stupid or something..

SOMETHING happened it was dark pitch with a lot of
overhead lights and doctors all around static in my
head like sand in my brain and my head was hot wet
wires everywhere and a chuku-chukun-chuku machine
that lulled me to sleep even with all what was
happening.
I drank this nasty liquid every day and
Something clicked after that.  I had what I call
Einstein invasions.  My dreams came a hundred a night,
scary stuff, nightmares, people yelling several of
them and the thickness of learning something somehow
as I slept.  Question this, why is this, in this
question does this open another, this question
answered
this therefore we have a thousand more questions for
you.  You see this answer is not as satisfying as
wanting to know what was beyond this.  There is a
table
or look-up of reference.  You can taste the math now
can't you it's like copper on the back of your tongue.
I wanted to learn everything anything all of it.
I especially wanted to learn not what was already
written in books, but what I myself was capable of
creating and solving beforehand.

I never really had a Mother to speak of.  It was a
woman who desired the death of Dad from the
day one and for years me, my sister, and her plotted
doing him in.  She entered black magic and taught me
how to find hidden things in your own mind which I DO
NOT TRY to do today.  Growing up was very hard, my
love of calculations and complex things drove out any
chance for any degree of a normal childhood.

I played with colored pegs until calculators came
out.  Then I worked on those for months trying
twisting plying numbers to leave where I was.  Mother
had kidnapped us again and this time there was a court
decision.  Dad had no real time for me at all so I
didn't know what quality time was at all except when
he read a book and I climbed in his lap and he stroked
my hair for hours.=20

The only real playtime I got was when I visited
Mother.  When she wasn't twisting up people with
manipulation and other mind games she married like 9
different guys well we played with toys and she had
the best, all kinds of neat spaceships that clicka-
clicka- little space guys with guns pe-choooff
fun stuff.  AND she played with these toys with me
we hadda blast this lasted till a few years after
I was 20.

Until one day we were playing dolls and I was one
of the dolls I still got today and we were playing
a game called the meaning of it all.  She entered
in a doll's bedroom and talked with others and found
a funny little man not leaving where he was cause he
was happy not knowing.  Finally she entered in a
sparkly stuff and she heard the final answer.

What is the meaning behind it all.  You ask what is
the meaning.  What is the reality ?  That you are a
plastic doll with only us much life as is given to
by your interest from the one handling you..

I just blurted it all out..  I stopped and it was
really quiet for a sec and well I guess we didn't
play with dolls anymore but stuffed animals.
She taught me good stuff on sex and dating with these.

I didn't know the first thing about anything of
having any friends so I cut
my toes to shreds with razors until Mrs. Stoke's my
babysitter asked how my toes were bleeding all the
time.  Then the doctors.  The mania.  The visit from
my guardian one closer to me then myself taught me
art, philosophy, music, science, theology,
calculations
most every-thing I am and have been today are from
these private night sessions with her.  School was
vicious and I took my beatings daily.  Still I tried
to escape into numbers away from everything.  I failed
every single class I took save one Computer Science
at which I got only a C in cause I was considered a
smartass who knew too much.  Yah it was there.  :)

Now it was time for me to find employment.  I did NOT
get along with anyone for any reason for any length of
time.  Anything I did that was on the computers became
the property of the company.  I wasn't good enough to
keep but good enough to finish software that finalized
entire companies.  Nobody wanted to play with the toys
I brought from home they're good toys !

Then the head beatings became well and good and felt
great after a-while, whenever I dearly and direly
hated myself I would take beat my head until the
back of my eyes were lit up with the most incredible
colors kaleidoscope could have ever see.  It was my
escape.  I banged my head starting in 1st grade and
was sent to both principal's office and nurse because
I wouldn't stop it.  The house would not let me leave
the glow of the amber light by the doorway was always
watchful and Dad would never let me fly to the moon
though I tried several HUNDRED times to..  It was
always out of reach.  But the storms would whip me
around in mid-air and I delighted in its incredible
fury and power.  Later things were magnetic, by
clenching my hands I could attract small pens and
paperclips.  This was devil's work I guess Mother's
she said Andrew look into your higher mind about
dadadadah every day we visisted she asked me and
something really weird would all ways answer inside of
me.

She called it higher mind.  She treated me
very nice and kept me in a crib till I was 24 but
now Rose won't play well like she used to.  She said
she's too old to play anymore and with the stroke
she had 3 years ago from January a lot of spark,
innocence, and youth were burned out of her.  She had
her escape in pills.  My sister was finally
hospitalized for violence she had destroyed each and
every one of the stuffed animals I had.  Is it any
wonder I collect so many now today.  :)

But then my time came.  It was my time the jobs were
not working the people took all I had I lifted up
the table and hurled it across the floor.  Dad
panicked and would NOT LET ME FLY but I was awake
now GODAMMIT I was awake and still he would not let
me fly.  I was put in a mental hospital for several
months then my best friend being a piano and a razor
but I couldn't keep the razor for long.  Yah they
wouldn't allow me cutting myself..  :/

The dean of TCJC college said he had a piano just for
me that I could play so I wouldn't disturb others.
That was my escape then was music.  My guardian, life
was perfect then I guess..  I was writing music then
new pieces daily incredible I had like a small
audience of girls daily and OH was my ego fed so well
!

Then they severely coaxed to perform solo which I did
but there was no applause.

Not one hand clapped when I was done.  Most people
stared at me like a bug and say how the hell did you
do that they weren't listening to the music they
were hearing the notes and that's not right !  you
don't HEAR the answer, you listen to the question
first !  Now I guess it was my time to be angry like
you Tom..  I rebelled against Mother I wanted no more
higher mind sessions, I rejected the toys she gave me
and didn't want to play dolls with her anymore I was
already 24 and she said that madman has you under his
thumb he strokes your forehead and you agree with
whatever he says.  Yah I guess I still do.

My sister learned some awful things and tried to
smuggle stuff out of Mexico when we visited there
and she went to jail and she's street-smart I guess
you call her know had 2 children, one adopted the
other stillborn.  Rose can't have children she's gotta
hysterectomy or something..  She saw that no-one would
ever want to be near me so she attacked when the time
was right.  And everything was ALL RIGHT.  But when
she entered, my guardian left.  The mirror in the
snowfield, the glass fortress, the ancient
stained-glass sphere all gone..

GODDAMMIT I MISS HER MOST OF ALL..

The biggest concern my Dr. now has is me banging
my head I take pills for that and some-days like today
I do and dearly want to.  I have had bunchees of EEGs
MRIs and doctor visits because of headaches that
black me out without banging just by thinking too
hard or something..

Yah I know David don't be a head-banger.  :)

Funny thing is I talked to my room-mate where I stay
now where every-thing is all paid and I get an
allowance and he said he knew a friend banged his
head.  Said he was really bright and the more he
banged his head the smarter and more creative he
became until one day he died of bleeding of the
brain hemorrhage.

Said don't bang your head David could happen
to you.  :)

Yah the bus comes to my front door to pick me up
so I can go shopping at the mall so I'll get a
postcard for you Tom okay ?

Tom..  Some days I just wake up and scream and
can't stop crying..  I know you are like this too
so please don't blot out on me.  I think we're
pretty similar in a lot of ways and the pain of
what one has to bear can bring friends together to
let them know THEY are not a-lone.  I miss my
guardian very terribly because I'm not as smart
as I used to be when I was with her learning at
night.  But she will be gone until Rose is gone
and that time is happening so maybe I get smarter
soon ??

My Dad's all ready all most 70 and Parkinson's
has eaten him up really bad..  I know I'll be
all upset and cry when he dies but did they have
to kill off Captain Kangaroo and Mr. Rogers
Neighborhood just to laugh at my Dad ??

It's strange Tom..
We bring up a child in the most incredible and
beatiful world of fantasy, of sugar cinnamon
candy thunder, faeries, dryads, unicorns and
superheroes, mister commandos, galaxy robots
and laser pistols.

None of this is real it seems.  And we intone it so
very heavily into our children who grow up.  Is this
a crux to support them or a cross to crucify them by ?
The very real pain of growing up is finding out there
isn't an Easter Bunny, Santa Claus, or Great Pumpkin
it's that there are very bad people in the world who
cannot get off sexually unless they see someone ground
up slowly into a wood chipper feet first..

That's sad..  And it is these things that DESTROY ever
fiber of my being, this cold and 100% heartless
reality
I do AVOID as much and as heavily I can.  The layers
of
paint of cartoons I put on thick and anime to seal my
sanity in a tight binding grip.

The spark of my FUN self if you well is encased in
this syrupy goo of toys, suffed animals, and fantasy.
I met Peter Pan once.  He was growing a beard
and out eating the snow from the ground because it
kept him young.

And Tom, there is NOT enough SNOW to eat !

Peter slickered up himself in black oil like Wullas
in a deep barrel intent on killing Hook once and for
all.  The stormglider carried its frail passengers
from the uncaring future into a much deserved past
when things were slower.  The large passenger vessel
on the purple waves and the people aboard them
constantly eating all the food that was given them
and the babies they were bringing up.  An entire
ship of pregnant women in an alien landscape.

These are the dreams that haunt me Tom.
These are the things I see with my eyes wide open.
Please don't close your eyes to me now and especially
to yourself and the very strong great glowing and
powerful GOOD that is within you.  It's not lost..

And you are not alone..

Sincerely,
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Ok... found a way to salvage RealPlay movies & sound.  Sound converts to *.wav,
the movies to *.mpg.  GoldWave will convert the *.wav to *.mp3.
TomR.


ra2wav - U.S. source is Seattle, WA.  Home appears to be in Russia.
NAME=StreamboxRipper2007.exe
URL=http://207.159.139.103/cgi-bin/dldcount.pl?711375^^ftp://seattle. (cont,
1 line!)
streambox.com/pub/Ripper/StreamboxRipper2007.exe


rm2mpeg
NAME=Amtec Support rm2mpeg.exe
URL=http://www.amtec.com/Service_pages/rm2mpeg.html

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi Tom:

You may wanna check out those *.mp3 in a true mp3
player.  I've got two real mp3 players that is they
play mp3s without installing DLLs in windows or
anything and they can't play or recognize a *.mp3
file created in Goldwave.  I don't mind too much
cause the music is just gonna stay at home  :)
but may cause you problems if you use it as a standard
on a different computer.

I can send you a copy of XMPlay if you like so you
can see Goldwave's MP3s are incompatible with true
MP3 players.

Sincerely,
David W.

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> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Ok... found a way to salvage RealPlay movies &
> sound.  Sound converts to *.wav,
> the movies to *.mpg.  GoldWave will convert the
> *.wav to *.mp3.
> TomR.
>=20
>=20
> ra2wav - U.S. source is Seattle, WA.  Home appears
> to be in Russia.
> NAME=3DStreamboxRipper2007.exe
>
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> (cont,
> 1 line!)
> streambox.com/pub/Ripper/StreamboxRipper2007.exe
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
GoldWave has a strange output... it's a true MP3.  It takes something much
more than
mmsystem.dll to play it.  That will play MPEG-1, but NOT Layer III, which is the
real meaning of MP3.  MediaPlayer v6.4 - the improved version that uses
quartz.dll v5,
will play Layer III MP3.  It also still plays MPEG-1.  The root of the new
system is
called mplayer2.exe & is installed in "program files\windows\", NOT
mplayer.exe that 
is in the windows dir.  *That* one plays MPEG-1 but NOT Layer III (MP3).

It now remains to find a simple solution to a small routine/*.dll to play
MP3 from
GFA-W(16) appls.  xaudio.dll is free, but is huge & I haven't yet translated
the 
calls from Pascal.

The *.dll is 313K by itself!  I have several routines on here that purport
to play 
them, but don't.  I have one that reads the header, but doesn't.  I have
another from 
Piotr that *does*.  But... it doesn't play any of them - it just reads the
header.

'nuff said - I have work to do.
TomR.

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi Mike:

--- Mike Fooks <Mick.Fooks@btinternet.com> wrote:
> List Member "Mike Fooks" <Mick.Fooks@btinternet.com>
> wrote:
> OK muppet question time again, this time it's
> callbacks, I think I
> understand the plain CB command tho' where I get the
> mlo & mlh params from
> is evading me!
>=20
> But _CB is causing severe overheat, I think the
> onscreen help is incorrect
> in line two of the example:
>             CB(1)=3Dfontproc(i,i,w,l) .... surely this
> should be preceeded by
> an underscore.
>=20
> Am I correct in assuming the commas seperating proc
> param list items are
> optional?
>=20
> Is the n in _CB(n) any number between 0-15 that
> identifies this specific
> callback in a program, or does it refer to something
> defined elsewhere.

* Hi Mike, you're asking a real toughie of a question.
  :)  For the _CB  command, yes you can put any number
  for  n  from 0-15.  This tells which Callback # you
  are specifying with a limit of 16 total.

  As for the Proc definition following it, be sure you
  get all the W & L in the right order.  The
  interpreter may not complain too much but it MUST
  be 100% correct for the compiler.

>=20
> Finally what does _CB(n)=3DProc(params) DO, I've
> searched but help on
> callbacks is rather sparse.

  The best working example for this difficult command
  is EnumFonts(...)

  I've got like 8 pages of help on the  _CB  function.
  If you like, I can send those to you.
  It's a awfully busy little command.  :)

Sincerely,
David W.

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David, you sent this to me instead of the mail list.
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> List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hi Mike:
> 
> --- Mike Fooks <Mick.Fooks@btinternet.com> wrote:
> > List Member "Mike Fooks" <Mick.Fooks@btinternet.com>
> > wrote:
> > OK muppet question time again, this time it's
> > callbacks, I think I
> > understand the plain CB command tho' where I get the
> > mlo & mlh params from
> > is evading me!
> > 
> > But _CB is causing severe overheat, I think the
> > onscreen help is incorrect
> > in line two of the example:
> >             CB(1)=fontproc(i,i,w,l) .... surely this
> > should be preceeded by
> > an underscore.
> > 
> > Am I correct in assuming the commas seperating proc
> > param list items are
> > optional?
> > 
> > Is the n in _CB(n) any number between 0-15 that
> > identifies this specific
> > callback in a program, or does it refer to something
> > defined elsewhere.
> 
> * Hi Mike, you're asking a real toughie of a question.
>   :)  For the _CB  command, yes you can put any number
>   for  n  from 0-15.  This tells which Callback # you
>   are specifying with a limit of 16 total.
> 
>   As for the Proc definition following it, be sure you
>   get all the W & L in the right order.  The
>   interpreter may not complain too much but it MUST
>   be 100% correct for the compiler.
> 
> > 
> > Finally what does _CB(n)=Proc(params) DO, I've
> > searched but help on
> > callbacks is rather sparse.
> 
>   The best working example for this difficult command
>   is EnumFonts(...)
> 
>   I've got like 8 pages of help on the  _CB  function.
>   If you like, I can send those to you.
>   It's a awfully busy little command.  :)
> 
> Sincerely,
> David W.
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
I received this from a fellow list member.  Although I had to explain to him
that I have no control over the list he does have a valid point. The mail
list is a valuable asset to us all, let's not abuse it.
Tom, keep sending all those questions. You keep my mind stimulated!
Dale

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Dale,

I'm writing to express my mounting concerned at the tenor of many of the
recent E-mails.  While I appreciate the need for the list to explore more
than just GFA issues, I'm seeing very personal and bitter matters being
sent to all on the list.

I think it may be necessary to try to encourage such communications not to
be sent on the list.  I'm at the stage now that most of the E-mails get
only a cursory glance and then go directly into the bin.  I do try to help
people, but I usually write to them directly and offer one-on-one
assistance.

I guess you realize that most see you as the 'Head' in this forum.  I don't
know what your own views are and I was wondering if you've considered
'stepping into fray' to moderate at all.  I would be willing to offer any
assistance, if you thought it useful.

I would also like to be signed up to the GB32 list - I think this is where
I'll be heading soon.

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Subject: Re: [gfabasic] CB
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Hi Mike,

> OK muppet question time again, this time it's callbacks, I think I
> understand the plain CB command tho' where I get the mlo & mlh params from
> is evading me!

If you mean the wParams and the lParams then the best places are:

Dale's helpfile http://gfawhelp.com
And the Windows 3.1 SDK http://www.baphead.freeserve.co.uk/win31wh.zip

> But _CB is causing severe overheat, I think the onscreen help is incorrect
> in line two of the example:
>             CB(1)=fontproc(i,i,w,l) .... surely this should be preceeded
by
> an underscore.

Yes, definately!

> Am I correct in assuming the commas seperating proc param list items are
> optional?

It seems so, I tried removing them and everything still works fine.

> Is the n in _CB(n) any number between 0-15 that identifies this specific
> callback in a program, or does it refer to something defined elsewhere.

I think you can do anything you like with them, a bit like the number you
use with OPEN, you shouldn't use it again until you have finished with it.

> Finally what does _CB(n)=Proc(params) DO, I've searched but help on
> callbacks is rather sparse.

The use for _CB is to get the address of a procedure, quite a few API
commands and DLL routines need them. I've attached a few examples.

HTH,
Russell Hayward
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi Dale:

--- Dale Bryant <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com>
> wrote:
> David, you sent this to me instead of the mail list.
> dale

Did I ?  I just hit Reply..  ? ?

If you haven't forwarded this yet to GFA I can do so.
Hope you are doing well.  I'm in the thick of
finishing
my RCS Generator which doesn't have as MANY ERRORS
as the one they provided for GFA - geesh !

I'll post it when done cause that's gotta be good news
to every-one.  :)

Sincerely,
David W.

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> >=20
> > --- Mike Fooks <Mick.Fooks@btinternet.com> wrote:
> > > List Member "Mike Fooks"
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> > > wrote:
> > > OK muppet question time again, this time it's
> > > callbacks, I think I
> > > understand the plain CB command tho' where I get
> the
> > > mlo & mlh params from
> > > is evading me!
> > >=20
> > > But _CB is causing severe overheat, I think the
> > > onscreen help is incorrect
> > > in line two of the example:
> > >             CB(1)=3Dfontproc(i,i,w,l) .... surely
> this
> > > should be preceeded by
> > > an underscore.
> > >=20
> > > Am I correct in assuming the commas seperating
> proc
> > > param list items are
> > > optional?
> > >=20
> > > Is the n in _CB(n) any number between 0-15 that
> > > identifies this specific
> > > callback in a program, or does it refer to
> something
> > > defined elsewhere.
> >=20
> > * Hi Mike, you're asking a real toughie of a
> question.
> >   :)  For the _CB  command, yes you can put any
> number
> >   for  n  from 0-15.  This tells which Callback #
> you
> >   are specifying with a limit of 16 total.
> >=20
> >   As for the Proc definition following it, be sure
> you
> >   get all the W & L in the right order.  The
> >   interpreter may not complain too much but it
> MUST
> >   be 100% correct for the compiler.
> >=20
> > >=20
> > > Finally what does _CB(n)=3DProc(params) DO, I've
> > > searched but help on
> > > callbacks is rather sparse.
> >=20
> >   The best working example for this difficult
> command
> >   is EnumFonts(...)
> >=20
> >   I've got like 8 pages of help on the  _CB=20
> function.
> >   If you like, I can send those to you.
> >   It's a awfully busy little command.  :)
> >=20
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> > David W.
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi Dale:

--- Dale Bryant <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com>
> wrote:
> I received this from a fellow list member.  Although
> I had to explain to him
> that I have no control over the list he does have a
> valid point. The mail
> list is a valuable asset to us all, let's not abuse
> it.
> Tom, keep sending all those questions. You keep my
> mind stimulated!
> Dale

* Yah sorry Dale.  Tom gets me sooo >MIFFED<
  some-times I get all fee-rusterated !
  And I know I must get him all MIFFED too.
  Sorry Tom.  :)

  Anyways, the work on MyRCS is coming a-long well !
  Can't belive that the GFA version wouldn't let you
  import source code as well as Export !  :/
  After using the GFA RCS for a bit I realized just
  how clumsy it is not being able to highlight
  source code to enter the RCS and have your buttons
  all pop up even if you changed your source around a
  little.  Mine won't make RCS files but save them as
  straight 100% ASCII source code files.  Won't even
  need to ASCII Merge them (I hope!) but just PASTE
  them in your source..

  Russell, you left a sample code of two text windows
  one types all by itself (which is neat) and the
other
  you can type stuff in.  If I can text COPY from a
  textfield and then later into GFA Source code that'd
  be great will check and see..

  Still working on it, then FFF, then Importer, then
  Fruity Jam, THEN FINALLY >gasp!< Scenario.

  Somewheres in there Tika's Card game needs to come
  out too !

> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
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> Dale,
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> I'm writing to express my mounting concerned at the
> tenor of many of the
> recent E-mails.  While I appreciate the need for the
> list to explore more
> than just GFA issues, I'm seeing very personal and
> bitter matters being
> sent to all on the list.

* Hi guy, don't mind me and Tom.  We get all crossways
  sometimes and are on the brink of mental breakdowns
  most of the time (me anyways), and sometimes its
  good to vent yah but not public I know..  But I
  thought I'd let everyone know JUST who David W is
  NOT some wizard Hotshot who graduated Ph.D. in
  computer science, no, a bit less then that..

  I know I've hadda hard time growing up Tom too.
  I just wanted to level with him that he's not alone.
  We've all had our share of it's raining on my head
  24 hours a day stuff..  Some more then others.

  Me a got a brelly hat now !  :)  Tom's prolly been
  wearing a raincoat from day 1 and still is..
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> I think it may be necessary to try to encourage such
> communications not to
> be sent on the list.  I'm at the stage now that most
> of the E-mails get
> only a cursory glance and then go directly into the
> bin.  I do try to help
> people, but I usually write to them directly and
> offer one-on-one
> assistance.

* Well if you're going to chupp our life stories
  when me & Tom pour our hearts out guess we'll have
  to become famous or something and write our
  autobiographies or something right ??  :)
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> in this forum.  I don't
> know what your own views are and I was wondering if
> you've considered
> 'stepping into fray' to moderate at all.  I would be
> willing to offer any
> assistance, if you thought it useful.
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> I think this is where
> I'll be heading soon.

* Nono..  You'll be back for GFA16 once you see that
the demo GFA32 only allows up to about 200 lines
of code we'll see ya back and even keep your desk for
you with nametag on the door.  I'll even save you a
slice of pie !  :)

Sincerely,
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Ok... the DOS spliter I found for *.mpg produces a Level II, *.mp2, audio file!
MPGP_094.ZIP (SimTel, Win95) is the first appl I've found that can identify it.
In a 120K *.zip w/ a readme, but NO helpfile.

Ulli, I'll update your header reader now w/ some more info.  I got a laugh
out of
your mmsystem.dll... I got wires crossed w/ it & the error notice was in German!
Yours is 6K or 8K larger than mine... must be language <G>.

MCI says it uses SoftPeg on here to do *.mpg, but that, when run, says it uses
MediaPlayer to work.  At any rate, *.mp3 is out of the question for now & I
never
use SoftPeg for anything altho it came on the computer.  It's always been
mplayer.

<G>
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I can tell you that using the auto-enrollment on their site does NOTHING. OR...
there's been nothing on it for two weeks!
<G>
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CandyFanny <G>
<G>
TomR.



At 04:30 PM 16/07/00 -0700, you wrote:
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>Tom, keep sending all those questions. You keep my mind stimulated!
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>Dale,
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>I'm writing to express my mounting concerned at the tenor of many of the
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>than just GFA issues, I'm seeing very personal and bitter matters being
>sent to all on the list.
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>be sent on the list.  I'm at the stage now that most of the E-mails get
>only a cursory glance and then go directly into the bin.  I do try to help
>people, but I usually write to them directly and offer one-on-one
>assistance.
>
>I guess you realize that most see you as the 'Head' in this forum.  I don't
>know what your own views are and I was wondering if you've considered
>'stepping into fray' to moderate at all.  I would be willing to offer any
>assistance, if you thought it useful.
>
>I would also like to be signed up to the GB32 list - I think this is where
>I'll be heading soon.
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:

> I would also like to be signed up to the GB32 list -
> I think this is where I'll be heading soon.

> * Nono..  You'll be back for GFA16 once you see that
> the demo GFA32 only allows up to about 200 lines
> of code

David, you have an active imagination, try to use it;  To run a company
requires much money - the wage bill alone for GFA will be many thousands per
month, there are building costs, maybe rent or mortgage, capital equipment
costs, legal costs, etc, etc.

If people took your attitude there would not be any GFA products because
there would not be a GFA company!


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List Member "John Findlay" <John.Findlay@Byte-it.net> wrote:

> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> CandyFanny <G>

What does that mean? Kiss my ass?

'Fanny' means something else for uk English. :-)

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List Member Thomas Gonschor <thomas.gonschor@vph-bensberg.de> wrote:
Hi!

I have got a very nice "puzzle" which has to be realized in gfa-basic:

If I start an application and after this I start it twice I can check
for the first start with the following: IF GetModuleUsage(_INSTANCE)
> 1 THEN ...

But how do I get the application-handle of this first instance?
That's the first thing, the second problem is how to send a special
message to this first instance and with this message I must send a
string. Furthermore I must analyse this message in the first instance
and get the string to do a few things with this informtion.

Has anyone an idea how to realize this?

Many thanks in advance
Kind regards
Yours

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List Member "John Findlay" <John.Findlay@Byte-it.net> wrote:
List Member Thomas Gonschor <thomas.gonschor@vph-bensberg.de> wrote:

> But how do I get the application-handle of this first instance?

There are probably a few ways to do it, but here's one way; first find the
window handle of the first runing app;

IF 1 < GetModuleUsage(_INSTANCE)
  hWnd& = FindWindow(NULL, "MyProgWindowTitle")
ENDIF

Then send a message to the other app to say there is another app running and
get its window handle.

You can PostMessage() either way to communicate between the progs.
Sending and receiving from one app to another, instance handle
or anything else. Ask the first app for its instance by sending a message!
You will need to establish the window handles of both apps.

Set up message handling stuff to trap the messages. You could use WM_USER as
the message and use wParam and lParam to exchange words
or longs between the two apps. Make up your own protocol;

 -1 for wParam means do this
 -2 for wParam means do that
or
 -1 for lParam means do this
 -2 for lParam means do that

To pass a string use the address of the string and terminate the string
with a NULL so that you can get it with mystring$ = CHAR{lParam%}

~PostMessage(hWnd&, Mess&, wParam&, lParam%)

' Example, sending string
s$ = "MyString 1234" + CHR$(0)
' -1 for wParam could be your code for 'this is a string'
~PostMessage(hWndOtherApp&, WM_USER, -1, V:s$)


' Example, for hInstance
SELECT msg&
CASE WM_USER

  SELECT lParam%
  CASE -2 ' example -> asking for instance. You need the
    '       window handle from the other app as wParam&
    ~PostMessage(wParam&, WM_USER, _INSTANCE, -12)
  ENDSELECT

ENDSELECT


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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Here we go again, stumbling over different meanings for the same words <G>.
Close, but no cigar <G>.  CandyAss - nit picker, details, details, etc. <G>.
Fanny, ass, butt, tush, hiney, behind, seat.........
<G>
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>> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
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>What does that mean? Kiss my ass?
>
>'Fanny' means something else for uk English. :-)
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>John
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List Member Thomas Gonschor <thomas.gonschor@vph-bensberg.de> wrote:
Hi John,

many thanks for your fast answer!

>IF 1 < GetModuleUsage(_INSTANCE)
>  hWnd& =3D FindWindow(NULL, "MyProgWindowTitle")
>ENDIF

That is no problem, but this window has no caption. I believe that
there is another API-Call: GetModuleHandle(_INSTANCE), but I have not
documentation to this. Do you have got something about this. I think
that this will help me.

>You can PostMessage() either way to communicate between the progs.

One more question, please: Why I have to use PostMessage instead of
SendMessage?

Many thanks in advance
Kind regards
Yours

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List Member "John Findlay" <John.Findlay@Byte-it.net> wrote:
Hello Thomas,

Sorry, the information I gave you was duff (not correct) I think you will
have to use EnumWindows(), see the code at the end of this listing to
find a window title properly.

> That is no problem, but this window has no caption.

Oh!

> I believe that there is another API-Call: GetModuleHandle(_INSTANCE),
> but I have not documentation to this. Do you have got something about
> this. I think that this will help me.

I've tried to use GetModuleHandle() but it does not return the same handle
as _INSTANCE, I don't know much about it. Here is the info anyway.

===============================
HMODULE GetModuleHandle(lpszModuleName)

LPCSTR lpszModuleName; /* address of name of module */

The GetModuleHandle function retrieves the handle of the specified module.

Parameter Description

lpszModuleName Points to a null-terminated string that specifies the name of
the module.

Returns
The return value is the handle of the module if the function is successful.
Otherwise, it is NULL.
=================================

So, use hMod& = GetModuleHandle("MyAppName")

> One more question, please: Why I have to use PostMessage instead
> of SendMessage?

Why not? PostMessage returns immediately, SendMessage waits for a return.

Use what suits you!

'=================================================
' Example to Enumerate all Top Level Windows and
' get the window handle of another running app
' with the same window title as this one.
'=================================================
TITLEW #1, "The Title"
OPENW #1, 0, 0, 500, 400, -1
_CB (1) = EnumProc(w,l)

' If more than one usage
IF 1 < GetModuleUsage(_INSTANCE)
  ~EnumWindows(_CB(1), 0)
ENDIF

REPEAT
  SLEEP
UNTIL MENU(1) = 4

PROCEDURE EnumProc(hw&, l%)
  LOCAL ss$ = SPACE$(512)
  ~GetWindowText(hw&, V:ss$, 512)

  ' If same window title but NOT the same window handle
  IF ZTRIM$(ss$) = "The Title" && hw& != WIN(1)
    PRINT hw&, ZTRIM$(ss$), "The other Apps Window"
  ENDIF

  RETVAL 1
RETURN
'===============================================
'END


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List Member "John Findlay" <John.Findlay@Byte-it.net> wrote:

Thomas, this will do it without a title.

'=================================================
' This does it without relying on captions
'=================================================
TITLEW #1, "The Title"
OPENW #1, 0, 0, 320, 240, -1
_CB (1) = EnumProc(w,l)

' Clear pending messages otherwise WM_PAINT
' will erase the PRINT's
FOR i& = 0 TO 6
  PEEKEVENT
NEXT i&

PRINT _INSTANCE, "This app Instance"

' If more than one usage
IF 1 < GetModuleUsage(_INSTANCE)

  ~EnumWindows(_CB(1), 0)

ELSE

  ' Get this window out of the way
  ~MoveWindow(WIN(1), 320, 0, 320, 240, FALSE)

  ' Pick a very unusual string, "ZIGNOG" :-)
  ' to use with SetProp()
  ~SetProp(WIN(1), "ZIGNOG", _INSTANCE)
  bSetProp! = TRUE
ENDIF

REPEAT
  SLEEP
UNTIL MENU(1) = 4

' Cleanup
IF bSetProp! THEN ~RemoveProp(WIN(1), "ZIGNOG")

PROCEDURE EnumProc(hw&, l%)

  hInst& = GetProp(hw&, "ZIGNOG")
  IF hInst&
    PRINT hInst&, "Other app instance"
    RETVAL 0
    EXPROC
  ENDIF

  RETVAL 1
RETURN
'===============================================
'END


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--- Tom Record
<tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> CandyFanny <G>
> <G>
> TomR.
>=20

Tooom ! <laughing>
Is that any relation to Candya$$ or panty-waist ?
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> David, you have an active imagination, try to use
> it;  To run a company
> requires much money - the wage bill alone for GFA
> will be many thousands per
> month, there are building costs, maybe rent or
> mortgage, capital equipment
> costs, legal costs, etc, etc.
>=20
> If people took your attitude there would not be any
> GFA products because
> there would not be a GFA company!
> John

Weelll..  GFA32 didn't take my "." as a REM and
yah I guess that's okay.  But it's an =3DUNFORGIVABLE=3D
unpardonable SIN to not allow the DEFFN for my
functions !  :)  Just how is one supposed to do
functions in there anyways ?

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>=20
> What does that mean? Kiss my ass?
>=20
> 'Fanny' means something else for uk English. :-)
>=20
> John

We have a term here in the U.S. called
Fannypack which is just like a camera case
you wear except on your hip.

I hate to think of what that translates into
UK with what John is saying !  :)

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> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Here we go again, stumbling over different meanings
> for the same words <G>.
> Close, but no cigar <G>.  CandyAss - nit picker,
> details, details, etc. <G>.
> Fanny, ass, butt, tush, hiney, behind, seat.........
> <G>
> TomR.

My Dad used to call me a Nit-picker when I'm
debugging code, Tom.
Just what is a Nit anyways ?  Is that related to
a Golp which means 2-bits of 8-bit data ?

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> Weelll..  GFA32 didn't take my "." as a REM and
> yah I guess that's okay.  But it's an =UNFORGIVABLE=
> unpardonable SIN to not allow the DEFFN for my
> functions !  :)  Just how is one supposed to do
> functions in there anyways ?

I'm sure you've heard that there is more than one way to skin a cat.

Actually GFA16 DEFFN's are not that good. The reason I say that is because
they act just like a normal function, or to put it another way they are not
macro's and are therefore slower than inline code.

In GB32 there are no DEFFN's but you can have functions declared as 'Naked';
this has nothing to do with Fanney's Btw. Naked means that the normal
epilogue/prologue messing about is dispensed with making them about as fast
a function as possible.

If you still have the demo version try this; it's quite a bit faster than
the system call IsCharAlpha(), almost twice as fast. Someone else wrote the
GB32 function IsAlpha()

'=================================
OpenW 1

Global Int i, t

t = GetTickCount()
For i = 0 To 200000
  ~IsCharAlpha(65)
Next
Print GetTickCount() - t

t = GetTickCount()
For i = 0 To 200000
  ~IsAlpha(65)
Next
Print GetTickCount() - t

KeyGet i
CloseW 1
End

Function IsAlpha(a As Int) As Bool Naked
  Return (a >= 65 && a <= 90) || ( a >= 97 && a <= 122)
EndFunc
'=================================

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Hi John:

> I'm sure you've heard that there is more than one
> way to skin a cat.
>=20
> Actually GFA16 DEFFN's are not that good. The reason
> I say that is because
> they act just like a normal function, or to put it
> another way they are not
> macro's and are therefore slower than inline code.

* Ahhmm..  Speed.  OK.  Speed is never really a
  problem for me in number crunching and stuff.
  I've always done well at that.  Remember I written
  software years ago to improve all kindsa company's
  software.  It's not the speed of the language but
  the efficiency of the programmer that counts.  :)

* The =3DONLY=3D thing I need for speed is I want
  ~setpixel() and =3Dgetpixel() to run faster or use a
  substitute entirely.  If I can get 20 frames per sec
  or better that would be great !  Oh yah, and that
  HyperPixel example only ran 2 frames per second
  really bad on my computer even compiled with
  purchased compiler..  You guys'd flip over my
  Fireball   screen-teaser in GFA !  Here's the
  Turbo PASCAL version I did for Fireball.
  QBasic wasn't fast enough.
  [enclosed]

* Run it in a full DOS Window that is, you cannot see
  the word (Start) in the bottom-left-hand corner.
  Use [ALT] [ENTER] to do this and the same keystrokes
  again to return back.

* This I did by reading every single pixel on the
  screen.  You see what can be done by hyper-
  reading and writing pixels !  :)

> In GB32 there are no DEFFN's but you can have
> functions declared as 'Naked';
> this has nothing to do with Fanney's Btw. Naked
> means that the normal
> epilogue/prologue messing about is dispensed with
> making them about as fast
> a function as possible.
>=20
> If you still have the demo version try this; it's
> quite a bit faster than
> the system call IsCharAlpha(), almost twice as fast.
> Someone else wrote the
> GB32 function IsAlpha()

* That 200 line limit catches me.  I find I can write
  =3DSO=3D much in 1000 lines !

* Geesh it couldna even run my Crystal Waves try it !
  :/
>=20
> '=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
> OpenW 1
>=20
> Global Int i, t
>=20
> t =3D GetTickCount()
> For i =3D 0 To 200000
>   ~IsCharAlpha(65)
> Next
> Print GetTickCount() - t
>=20
> t =3D GetTickCount()
> For i =3D 0 To 200000
>   ~IsAlpha(65)
> Next
> Print GetTickCount() - t
>=20
> KeyGet i
> CloseW 1
> End
>=20
> Function IsAlpha(a As Int) As Bool Naked
>   Return (a >=3D 65 && a <=3D 90) || ( a >=3D 97 && a <=3D
> 122)
> EndFunc
> '=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

* This is all good and well but the only speed I need
  is reading and writing pixels.  I can write routines
  fast enough for the other stuff.  :)

Sincerely,
David W.
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List Member "John Findlay" <John.Findlay@Byte-it.net> wrote:
David,

> Ahhmm..  Speed.  OK.  Speed is never really a
> problem for me in number crunching and stuff.
> I've always done well at that.

Doing well and doing the best is not the same thing. Particularly as you are
interested in animation.

> The =ONLY= thing I need for speed is I want
> ~setpixel() and =getpixel() to run faster or use a
> substitute entirely.

Again -> Windows will not allow poking directly to display ram for any
window created and managed with the GDI. SetPixel and GetPixel is as fast as
you will manage. Unless you use the method of getting the bits, poking, and
then setting the bits back again which is quite a bit faster.

I had the same problem on the Amiga so I wrote an assembly routine to plot,
much faster than the system call but that's not allowed in windows.

>  If I can get 20 frames per sec or better that would be great!

If you want to animate anything that isn't <small> the only way is with
DirectX which was specifically designed to do such things, Windows is not!
There are various software layers between your code and the hardware that
slow things down tremendously.

I have DirectX demos that run full screen 800x600x32bit at 50 frames/sec.
Shrink the window and some of them can run at 150 frames/sec.

Perhaps you are afraid of learning new stuff!?

Did you ever use double buffering on the Amiga? It is essential for the best
animation. Perhaps if you only used basic it was not available to you. I
managed to do it with GFA on the Amiga by using system calls.

> Oh yah, and that HyperPixel example only ran 2 frames
> per second really bad on my computer even compiled with
> purchased compiler..

When I first sent that exe you were _amazed_, what's changed
so that you now deride it?

> Here's the Turbo PASCAL version I did for Fireball.
>  QBasic wasn't fast enough.
>  [enclosed]

I get -> Runtime error 002: at 0000:06A2

> This I did by reading every single pixel on the
> screen.  You see what can be done by hyper-
> reading and writing pixels !  :)

I know what can be done. You seem to be unaware of the limitations of
Windows.

> That 200 line limit catches me.  I find I can write
>  =SO= much in 1000 lines !

As I said, without money there would be no GFA products, so without people
buying you would not have a version to play with.

John



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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
--- John Findlay <John.Findlay@Byte-it.net> wrote:
>=20
> Doing well and doing the best is not the same thing.
> Particularly as you are
> interested in animation.

* Well..  I know there is DirectX but it is MORE
  slow on my computer then normal plotting..  :/

* Remember, I tried out Russell's DirectX demo and
  BOY was it slow !  :/

> Again -> Windows will not allow poking directly to
> display ram for any
> window created and managed with the GDI. SetPixel
> and GetPixel is as fast as
> you will manage. Unless you use the method of
> getting the bits, poking, and
> then setting the bits back again which is quite a
> bit faster.

* Even that is not very fast.  Here is modified QUICK
  so it runs in a loop.  That tick sound you hear is
  how long it takes to both change every single pixel
  with some-thing that is a-lot easier then what I
  normally would do plotting pixels especially if I'm
  making virtual sprites and parallax tiles.
  Compiled with my purchased compiler I get only 2
  frames per second.  Now, Fruity Jam is 640x480 full-
  screen resolution !  That display is only 400x300
  so imagine how much SLOWER it would be ?  Less then
  2 frames per second I betcha..  :/

> I had the same problem on the Amiga so I wrote an
> assembly routine to plot,
> much faster than the system call but that's not
> allowed in windows.
>=20
> >  If I can get 20 frames per sec or better that
> would be great!
>=20
> If you want to animate anything that isn't <small>
> the only way is with
> DirectX which was specifically designed to do such
> things, Windows is not!
> There are various software layers between your code
> and the hardware that
> slow things down tremendously.

* Not DirectX doesn't work well here..
>=20
> I have DirectX demos that run full screen
> 800x600x32bit at 50 frames/sec.
> Shrink the window and some of them can run at 150
> frames/sec.

* Not going to deal with shrunken Windows.  You'll
  see when Fruity Jam is complete, it allows two
  screen-sizes partial or full.  :)
>=20
> Perhaps you are afraid of learning new stuff!?

* Possibly.  :)
>=20
> Did you ever use double buffering on the Amiga? It
> is essential for the best
> animation. Perhaps if you only used basic it was not
> available to you. I
> managed to do it with GFA on the Amiga by using
> system calls.

* On the Amiga I wrote my own plotter routines.
  They were horrendously slow but allowed me to write
  some nice games like Dragonrider and Dragonhunt.

* On that computer I wasn't so much going for raw
  speed but flicker-free and very colorful.

+ Dragonrider 3-D landscape fixed once computed,
  Sprite of Dragon to breathe fire at falling
  "threads" only update entire screen by PUT
  when a thread is shot.  Clever palette use
  allowed no requirement of MASKING at all, the
  dragon only moved in the solid color area but the
  illusion was that the mountains complex imagery
  were linked to this solid color.  :)

+ Dragonhunt, this one I wrote made commercial (sorta)
  It got ripped by a game company..  Anyways, in it
  it player moved in tight grid.  What I did was
  manually draw all possible instances of single
  PSET tile, PlayerOnGrass- PlayerOnForest, so it
  used about 200 tiles or so for only 16 images.
  The effect was perfect but only being able to use
  ultimately 16 tiles with 20-30 per tile for the
  background they can sit on was work !  But, it was
  100% flicker free and did work well.  :)
=20
* For the fact that my computer has been updated o
  120mhz which to ME is very fast.  And for there to
  be 0 (zero) speed difference on that QUICK where-as
  everything else sped up, especially my SNES
  emulator, then I wasn't too keen on it.  :)
  Also I think at the time I may have still been using
  PSET and PLOT in some cases which, of course is
  always slow..

> I get -> Runtime error 002: at 0000:06A2

* You've gotta fast computer.  Hang on a sec..
  Acch..  I don't have it here.  Borland put out a
  patch .EXE cause it was using a 16-bit timer instead
  of 64-bit like it should be doing..

> I know what can be done. You seem to be unaware of
> the limitations of
> Windows.

> As I said, without money there would be no GFA
> products, so without people
> buying you would not have a version to play with.

* Paying for a product is fine, but $125 for a
  compiler seems a bit much to me, of course, I'm
  not made-a money and basicly on well fare.  :)

Sincerely,
David W.


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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
1/3 of a fit, I think.  Nobody ever told me which third, tho.
1) Oh, it won't go. 2) It's goin.  3)  See ... It's all in.
1) Oh, it'll go.  2) It's NOT goin.  3) Ah, Jeeze, forget it.
As you see... there are 6 thirds to this thing... maybe more.
That CandyFanny should *really* like this one.
TomR.


At 08:40 AM 17/07/00 -0700, you wrote:
>List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
>--- Tom Record
><tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> List Member Tom Record
>> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> Here we go again, stumbling over different meanings
>> for the same words <G>.
>> Close, but no cigar <G>.  CandyAss - nit picker,
>> details, details, etc. <G>.
>> Fanny, ass, butt, tush, hiney, behind, seat.........
>> <G>
>> TomR.
>
>My Dad used to call me a Nit-picker when I'm
>debugging code, Tom.
>Just what is a Nit anyways ?  Is that related to
>a Golp which means 2-bits of 8-bit data ?
>
>Sincerely,
>David W.
>
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:

--- Tom Record > 1/3 of a fit, I think.  Nobody ever
told me which
> third, tho.
> 1) Oh, it won't go. 2) It's goin.  3)  See ... It's
> all in.
> 1) Oh, it'll go.  2) It's NOT goin.  3) Ah, Jeeze,
> forget it.
> As you see... there are 6 thirds to this thing...
> maybe more.
> That CandyFanny should *really* like this one.
> TomR.

Tooom !!  I'm gonna start calling you GrumpyBear like
in the Care Bears, be nice to people !  :)

- - -
Okay is it just me or does like the GFA debugger
NOT WORK most of the time on really big code.

I mean I've got variable  P  which is local all set-up
it's in the DEBUG view variable window and when it
gets to a spot where you KNOW it's going to change on
the next line after that, it doesn't !?  Agggh !!
Tell me I don't have to write hours of code with DEBUG
working half-way !  :/

Has any-one else run into this for GFA16 ?

I just =3DNOW=3D finally after almost a +DAY+ of
programming got the menu structure finished in
MyRCS.  (SIGH!)  :)

Sincerely,
David W.


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I sent this the other day but I don't think it made the list.


Someone was looking for code to list all files on a disk.  Rumaging around
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Pat
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hey Pat,

we're past that I think..
Thanks anyways.  :)

Now I'm just trying to see how to do TABS from one
field to an-other without using DIALOG .

I think Russell sent me something on TABBED buttons
so I'm gonna look at it.  But I tell you, Russell may
be one super sharp programmer (yah we all knowing
that), but it's HARD to read his GFA code sometimes
cause he is very much and deep into C++ programming
now.

Sincerely,
David W.

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> I sent this the other day but I don't think it made
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>=20
>=20
> Someone was looking for code to list all files on a
> disk.  Rumaging around
> the other day I found the following demo's.
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> Pat

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----- Original Message -----=20
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Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2000 2:29 PM
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Hi Dale
I have a program running which displays JPEG files which are bigger than =
the screen size, are there any routines available that can print a JPEG =
file, or how can the file be loaded in a smaller format that will fit =
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Thanks
Dave

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Dave
Assuming Dale put this on the list as bait...
Also assuming the program you mention has no scaling or print...
On Dales website, you will find an OLD routine that uses nviewl16.dll to
load *.jpg.
It has just 2 options, but you can alter those to suit your need.  It prints the
image centered or stretched to fit the window.

It was roughed out for me by Patrik Battig 2 yrs ago.  You may find one by
Joe Hurst
there, too - he took the *.dll & calls I sent him & did his a bit differently.

The *.dll gives you all that's necessary to scale it to fit your window/screen, 
keeping it proportional.  If you find you need help, give a yell.  I have
several 
ways to do these things, including a much smaller *.dll from Roland Walter &
a *.lib
that you can $LNK into your executable.

Note of caution... that GFA routine for printscreen (hardcopy.gfw) doesn't
like to
be set off 0,0, for origin.  If you aren't running at 256 colors, you won't
get an
8-bit save.  You can get 1-bit, 24-bit & whatever your graphics are set to
for the
monitor.  That's all.  The rest will be trashed for lack of pallet control.

Nuts, I nearly forgot!  Get Eberhard's image editor from Dale's site!  He
does his 
own pallet control & you can get a decent 8-bit image.  He uses
nviewl16.dll, too. 
That *.dll will save *.jpg, but ONLY the image it loads.  It won't save *.bmp or
any other format, tho.  If I remember right, the program *does* have scaling
in it,
as well as printing.

<G>
TomR.

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>http://gfawhelp.gfa.net
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>adbryant@gfa.net
>adbryant@msn.com
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>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: Dave Paterson 
>To: Dale Bryant 
>Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2000 2:29 PM
>Subject: Re JPEG Files
>
>
>Hi Dale
>I have a program running which displays JPEG files which are bigger than
the screen size, are there any routines available that can print a JPEG
file, or how can the file be loaded in a smaller format that will fit the
screen, so that I can use the old 16bit PrintScreen program.
>
>Thanks
>Dave

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Okay guys you want the good news or bad news ?

The Good news is that GFA can indeed handle TABBING
from one dialog element to another without using a
RECORD style variable.

The Bad News is that it will ONLY work when inside
a DIALOG structure, not a regular Window.

If some-one can please show me how to have [TAB] jump
from one field to the next without DIALOG, I'd like
to know !

Also, when inside a DIALOG, you cannot plot graphics.
(The main reason I am avoiding using DIALOG) :)

In order for there to be a custom grid underlaying
the dialog switches in MyRCS, I cannot use the DIALOG
window.  (Or someone please correct me on this if I
am wrong).

Sincerely,
David W.

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Hi David,

> Also, when inside a DIALOG, you cannot plot graphics.
> (The main reason I am avoiding using DIALOG) :)

I've never had any problems drawing inside a DIALOG, I've attached an
example.

Also did you see the demo Tabbing.gfw I sent to the list a few days ago, it
shows how to do tabstops in a GFA window.

HTH,
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
UPDATE - GFA16 - Stefan Scholz

"mtekSave GFA16.zip"   ist a new good Demo with documentation and 9
different animations

Check it out
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hey Russ:

> Hi David,

> I've never had any problems drawing inside a DIALOG,
> I've attached an
> example.

* Will check it out, thanks !
=20
> Also did you see the demo Tabbing.gfw I sent to the
> list a few days ago, it
> shows how to do tabstops in a GFA window.

* The very program I was looking at.  It uses DIALOG,
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
I had several listings that permitted thunking 32-bit *.dlls.  I seem to
have lost all.

I've been thru Dale's & GFA's sites, but don't find them.  I've been
unsuccessful in
getting Ulli's play MP_ routine to play MP3, so I'm trying to thunk
xaudio.dll.  This
*.dll allows editing of MP sound files & will handle all versions, I'm told.

If somebody has the simpler thunk routines, please send to me.  Thanks!
<G>
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Greets Tom:

Hey !  Just what is a thunk anyways ??

You've got boojums, heffalumps, and woozels but
I don't know about this Thunk ?

Is it past tense of think ?  Thinked, thinking,
thought, thunk ?

Sincerely,
David W.

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> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> I had several listings that permitted thunking
> 32-bit *.dlls.  I seem to
> have lost all.
>=20
> I've been thru Dale's & GFA's sites, but don't find
> them.  I've been
> unsuccessful in
> getting Ulli's play MP_ routine to play MP3, so I'm
> trying to thunk
> xaudio.dll.  This
> *.dll allows editing of MP sound files & will handle
> all versions, I'm told.
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> If somebody has the simpler thunk routines, please
> send to me.  Thanks!
> <G>
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
I THUNK you area good programmer but Tom said he THUNKs I am crazy.
Shine on David
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> List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Greets Tom:
> 
> Hey !  Just what is a thunk anyways ??
> 
> You've got boojums, heffalumps, and woozels but
> I don't know about this Thunk ?
> 
> Is it past tense of think ?  Thinked, thinking,
> thought, thunk ?
> 
> Sincerely,
> David W.
> 
> --- Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> > List Member Tom Record
> > <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> > I had several listings that permitted thunking
> > 32-bit *.dlls.  I seem to
> > have lost all.
> > 
> > I've been thru Dale's & GFA's sites, but don't find
> > them.  I've been
> > unsuccessful in
> > getting Ulli's play MP_ routine to play MP3, so I'm
> > trying to thunk
> > xaudio.dll.  This
> > *.dll allows editing of MP sound files & will handle
> > all versions, I'm told.
> > 
> > If somebody has the simpler thunk routines, please
> > send to me.  Thanks!
> > <G>
> > TomR.
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Thunk: a 16-bit appl talking to a 32-bit *.dll, David.


At 05:21 AM 19/07/00 -0700, you wrote:
>List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Greets Tom:
>
>Hey !  Just what is a thunk anyways ??
>
>You've got boojums, heffalumps, and woozels but
>I don't know about this Thunk ?
>
>Is it past tense of think ?  Thinked, thinking,
>thought, thunk ?
>
>Sincerely,
>David W.
>
>--- Tom Record
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>> List Member Tom Record
>> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> I had several listings that permitted thunking
>> 32-bit *.dlls.  I seem to
>> have lost all.
>>=20
>> I've been thru Dale's & GFA's sites, but don't find
>> them.  I've been
>> unsuccessful in
>> getting Ulli's play MP_ routine to play MP3, so I'm
>> trying to thunk
>> xaudio.dll.  This
>> *.dll allows editing of MP sound files & will handle
>> all versions, I'm told.
>>=20
>> If somebody has the simpler thunk routines, please
>> send to me.  Thanks!
>> <G>
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List Member Anthony Watson <awatson@pacifier.com> wrote:
I asked this question a while back, but am not sure it made it to the
list, as I never received a response. So, I'm asking again.

Does anyone have example code of how to create a desktop shortcut icon on
the Win95/98 desktop? I want my program to automatically put an icon on
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Need a solution to this urgently!

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:

--- Dale Bryant <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com>
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> I THUNK you area good programmer but Tom said he
> THUNKs I am crazy.
> Shine on David
> http://gfawhelp.gfa.net

Huum ??  Ahh, thanks Dale (I think..)  :)

Well it doesn't seem to be an easy way to do true
graphics.  Now Russ you are one GOOD programmer but
I don't wanna have to enter in a hundred lines just
to plot a circle and stuff.  I think I can interrupt
the system to check for a TAB and I'll write my own
tabber routine.

Sincerely,
David W.

Maaaaan is it slow going !  I've got it all-set up
for reading and writing to the clipboard now tho so
it can retrieve and post source-code clips.

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:

--- Tom Record
<tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Thunk: a 16-bit appl talking to a 32-bit *.dll,
> David.

Ohhh..  The dawn of reasoning, the light of
understanding !  Or maybe just it's a little
flickering
candle..  :)  But I see.  Okay.  Doesn't GFA mind
doing 32 bit .DLLS if its set-up for 16 ?

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member "Russell Hayward" <russ@softhome.net> wrote:
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Hi David,

> > Also did you see the demo Tabbing.gfw I sent to the
> > list a few days ago, it
> > shows how to do tabstops in a GFA window.
>
> * The very program I was looking at.  It uses DIALOG,
>   not OPENW#  :/

Maybe you are looking at the wrong listing, using DIALOG would destroy the
point of the example somewhat. I've attached it again, apologies for anyone
who has it already.

HTH,
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List Member "Mike Fooks" <Mick.Fooks@btinternet.com> wrote:
Thanks to all who responded, I'm now well on the way to understanding, and
yes I did trip over another GFA quirk. Traditionally when puzzling over a
command I run the program, then REM out the offending line and run it again
to see what the difference is.

Humm. guess what - REMing out a _CB command has no effect, unless you run
the amended program cold, spose GFA doesn't completely reset itself. My
little black book is filling up.

To David - grovel - to get down on one's knees and lick boots - please
please can I !!!   :-))

Mike
I feel a force-field enveloping me...
its...its..'been here, done it, got the certificate'

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From: "Russell Hayward" <russ@softhome.net>
To: <gfabasic@gfa.net>
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Subject: Re: [gfabasic] thunk/wow
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 19:50:18 +0100
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Hi Tom,

> I had several listings that permitted thunking 32-bit *.dlls.  I seem to
> have lost all.
>
> I've been thru Dale's & GFA's sites, but don't find them.  I've been
> unsuccessful in
> getting Ulli's play MP_ routine to play MP3, so I'm trying to thunk
> xaudio.dll.  This
> *.dll allows editing of MP sound files & will handle all versions, I'm
told.
>
> If somebody has the simpler thunk routines, please send to me.  Thanks!

I wrote an article on how to do generic thunking for Dale's newsletter a
while back, I've attached that with a few examples.

HTH,
Russell Hayward

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Hi Anthony,

> Does anyone have example code of how to create a desktop shortcut icon on
> the Win95/98 desktop? I want my program to automatically put an icon on
> the desktop when it runs.

I've tried to do this directly but ended up deciding it was impossible from
a 16-bit language. You need to use COM to create a shortcut in anywhere but
the start menu, and there's no way I know to get round it.

I can only come up with 2 other options:

1. Use DDE with Progman to create a shortcut in the start menu (see
attachment), then use thunking to call SHGetSpecialFolderLocation to get the
the folder paths of the desktop and start menu\programs folder. Now move or
copy the link from the folder Progman created under start menu\programs to
the desktop. The disadvantage of this is that Progman insists on opening a
window showing the newly created links, which isn't good if you then move
them away.

2. Use a 32-bit programming language to create a DLL that has a function to
create a link and use thunking to call it. The disadvantage of this is you
have to have a DLL with your EXE.

Good luck,
Russell Hayward
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Subject: Re: [gfabasic] Desktop Shortcut Icons in GFA?
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List Member Anthony Watson <awatson@pacifier.com> wrote:
Dale/Russell,

Thanks a million for the tips on where to start. I'll be eager to check
out those options. I also had a thought this morning on another method
that may work.

If I can get something that works, I'll try to post it here.

Thanks again!

Anthony

PS. Any other ideas for creating a desktop shortcut would be appreciated!

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi Russell:

I've gotta quick show of no graphics working in
Dialog.
[enclosed]

Tried out the Tabbing, yah that's the one that
tabs all-right..  Oh I rememberd know why I don't
like it !

(I had to think)..  Tabbing uses RECORD variables.
Now Tom all-ready got me Text-Entry field without
RECORD variables (Thanks Tom !) :)  sooo it should
be possible to do the tabbing window without the
RECORDS variables too right ??

Sincerely,
David W.

(I'm Living in a QBasic Dream but Reality speaks C++!)
:)

--- Russell Hayward <russ@softhome.net> wrote:
>=20
> Hi David,
>=20
> > > Also did you see the demo Tabbing.gfw I sent to
> the
> > > list a few days ago, it
> > > shows how to do tabstops in a GFA window.
> >
> > * The very program I was looking at.  It uses
> DIALOG,
> >   not OPENW#  :/
>=20
> Maybe you are looking at the wrong listing, using
> DIALOG would destroy the
> point of the example somewhat. I've attached it
> again, apologies for anyone
> who has it already.
>=20
> HTH,
> Russ
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi Mike:

> List Member "Mike Fooks" <Mick.Fooks@btinternet.com>
> wrote:
> Thanks to all who responded, I'm now well on the way
> to understanding, and
> yes I did trip over another GFA quirk. Traditionally
> when puzzling over a
> command I run the program, then REM out the
> offending line and run it again
> to see what the difference is.
>=20
> Humm. guess what - REMing out a _CB command has no
> effect, unless you run
> the amended program cold, spose GFA doesn't
> completely reset itself. My
> little black book is filling up.
>=20
> To David - grovel - to get down on one's knees and
> lick boots - please
> please can I !!!   :-))

* Well Mike, I don't wear boots, I'm sure I can find
  SOMETHING for you to lick !  };>

>=20
> Mike
> I feel a force-field enveloping me...
> its...its..'been here, done it, got the certificate'

* (Smile)  It's a nice feeling when you solve some
  puzzles in programming.  Maaan you think they'd
  make computers easier to use I mean where =3DIS=3D
  HAL ?  Were in the running for the year 2001 !

* Oh..  Did any-body know that HAL is one-step
  pre-cursor to IBM ?  (Just check the letters if
  you don't believe me!) :)

Sincerely,
David W.


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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 1. Use DDE with Progman to create a shortcut in the
> start menu (see
> attachment), then use thunking to call
> SHGetSpecialFolderLocation to get the
> the folder paths of the desktop and start
> menu\programs folder. Now move or
> copy the link from the folder Progman created under
> start menu\programs to
> the desktop. The disadvantage of this is that
> Progman insists on opening a
> window showing the newly created links, which isn't
> good if you then move
> them away.
>=20
> 2. Use a 32-bit programming language to create a DLL
> that has a function to
> create a link and use thunking to call it. The
> disadvantage of this is you
> have to have a DLL with your EXE.
>=20
> Good luck,
> Russell Hayward

Oww !  What was that ??  Oh my brain just popped out
of the top of my head and ran off screaming like a
schoolgirl !

Good grief Russell !  That's awfully complex !  :)

OK - if anyone is interested, a really EASY way to
rename 8-char. filenames to Win98 long filenames..

PROCEDURE MyRename(F1$,F2$)
  LOCAL GNT=3DGetNumTasks()
  SHELL "ren " + F1$ + " " + CHR$(34) + F2$ + CHR$(34)
  DO
    PEEKEVENT
  UNTIL GNT =3D GetNumTasks()
RETURN

- - -

GetNumTasks() is flying well !  I use it constantly
now for RawJBox ][ to rename some of these MIDI to
longer-descriptions.  :)

Hope This Helps !

Sincerely,
David W.
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi Anthony:

> List Member Anthony Watson <awatson@pacifier.com>
> wrote:
> Dale/Russell,
>=20
> Thanks a million for the tips on where to start.
> I'll be eager to check
> out those options. I also had a thought this morning
> on another method
> that may work.
>=20
> If I can get something that works, I'll try to post
> it here.
>=20
> Thanks again!
>=20
> Anthony
>=20
> PS. Any other ideas for creating a desktop shortcut
> would be appreciated!

A desktop short-cut is just a file right ?

Yes..  I knew they were in there.  They've got the
extension .LNK I guess for shortcut LiNK.  :)

Just make a short-cut to a generic 8-letter
3-extension
file that has an exact filesize of 1234 and dig
through
there under DOS if you like with:

EDIT /50 shortcut.LNK

Make sure it's a back-up copy or one that can get
scratched cause using EDIT to patch binary files is
tedious and tricky stuff.  :)

Now, every line is 50 characters across so for every
vertical line you go down add 50 to your total.

* * If you want to patch binary files this way,
that's fine just make sure the cursor is a full
SQUARE and not a line by hitting [INS] so it's
in OVERWRITE mode and don't type any characters
after the 50th position !  Pad with SPACES if
need be.

When you're done like at byte #8471 you may find
your filename, note that down bring up GFA and:

OPEN "u",1,"shortcut.LNK"
SEEK 1,8471
A$=3DINPUT$(1,1)
CLOSE 1

For instant to read the first binary character in
"shortcut.LNK" at byte position #8471, 0 (zero) counts
as the first spot for  SEEK  so don't use 1  thinking
it's the first cause its not !

The "u" is a special-class file for GFABasic.
If you use "i" for binary files it MAY not work
(often doesn't) says it reached the END OF THE FILE
(when in fact it hasn't).  Sooo use "u" which I guess
is UNCONDITIONAL read but DON'T use EOF to find the
end, instead use either LOF after it's open or
Use  FILES TO  or  DIR TO  and extract it out manually
from a temporary file for readingout out its
visible LENGTH.  :)

Hope This Helps !

Sincerely,
David W.

Having purchased a new software package and having
After you've spent the past 17 hours with your very
best attempts at getting the software to start having
rebooted and reconfigured almost every file in your
computer for it and it STILL doesn't work, you're
ready to return the blasted software back to the
store and get a full refund !
... .. .
=2E
=2E
=2E
Read the instructions.
G'wan it won't hurt ya !  :)


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David,

> A desktop short-cut is just a file right ?

Thanks for the idea. I had considered something similar, but do not have
the .LNK file format on hand. I may try to track that down and research
that approach too.

Take care,

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List Member Doyle Whisenant <mechanic@sonet.net> wrote:
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> List Member Anthony Watson <awatson@pacifier.com> wrote:
> David,
> 
> > A desktop short-cut is just a file right ?
> 
> Thanks for the idea. I had considered something similar, but do not have
> the .LNK file format on hand. I may try to track that down and research
> that approach too.
> 
> Take care,

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi Anthony:

--- Anthony Watson <awatson@pacifier.com> wrote:
> List Member Anthony Watson <awatson@pacifier.com>
> wrote:
> David,
>=20
> > A desktop short-cut is just a file right ?
>=20
> Thanks for the idea. I had considered something
> similar, but do not have
> the .LNK file format on hand. I may try to track
> that down and research
> that approach too.
>=20
> Take care,
>=20
> Anthony

Why try to learn all about it ?  When people go to
a dance club what do they do ?  They get up there and
joggle their body alla round mooshing out their arms
and flivving their heads.  That's right NO ONE there
knows how to DANCE but you don't see it stopping
them do ya ?  :)

I didn't know squat about Bitmap files, I still don't.
But I played with enough of it I learned a few things
where the pixels go and where to put the size across
and down it is.  That's all I needed.

Lotsa stuff I write that may-be considered complex
today I only did cause I played with it, NOT trying
to learn any of it but just seeing how something
squoozes to one side when I push here or there in it.

Swirl3 is a good example.  If someone was to sit me
down and say I gotta $1000 bucks for you if you can
explain to me what's going on in there -- well...
I'd tell them something sure.  :)  But prolly not the
right and 100% correct answer cause I don't know.
If I was to sit down with Swirl3 when I first
started writing it and tried to learn every single
nuance and nuisance there is about the math involved
(well aside from having a mushroom cloud appearing
 over my head from my brain entering critical
 nuclear mass) :)  I DOUBT I would have finished it
so quickly.

If it was me going to learn shortcuts I'd prolly
make a dummy one and compare it with 3 or 4 to see
how they vary.  Yah that's me I can't learn ANYTHING
except by example.  :)

Good luck !

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Hi David,

> I've gotta quick show of no graphics working in
> Dialog.
> [enclosed]

Yes doing it that way will never work, I've changed it and attached a
working version.

> Tried out the Tabbing, yah that's the one that
> tabs all-right..  Oh I rememberd know why I don't
> like it !
>
> (I had to think)..  Tabbing uses RECORD variables.
> Now Tom all-ready got me Text-Entry field without
> RECORD variables (Thanks Tom !) :)  sooo it should
> be possible to do the tabbing window without the
> RECORDS variables too right ??

I don't know what you have got against TYPEs, they are used in many areas of
Windows, you can't avoid them forever. Anyway, I've attached the same
listing that uses an array instead of a TYPE.

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List Member Anthony Watson <awatson@pacifier.com> wrote:
Doyle,

> > Thanks for the idea. I had considered something similar, but do not have
> > the .LNK file format on hand. I may try to track that down and research
> > that approach too.

> http://www.wotsit.org   :)

Visited that site this afternoon, and checked out the .LNK format. Looks
to be more trouble than it is worth to approach from this standpoint. But,
I ran across another method of creating desktop shortcuts that may work
out too. We'll see...

Thanks,

Anthony


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List Member Anthony Watson <awatson@pacifier.com> wrote:
David,

> Why try to learn all about it?

Actually, I've seen the file format, and while it would certainly be
possible to approach from a raw file standpoint, it is not the option I
wish to pursue. For one, the file format is likely to change in the
future, which means that approach may choke with future versions of
Windows. I'd like to stick with something a bit more "official", even if
it takes a work around approach to get there.

> I didn't know squat about Bitmap files, I still don't.

Visit the wotsit.org site that Doyle mentioned. They've got the bitmap
format, and hundreds of others too. It has been a valuable resource for me
the past couple of years.

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Merci.
<G>


At 07:50 PM 19/07/00 +0100, you wrote:
>
>Hi Tom,
>
>> I had several listings that permitted thunking 32-bit *.dlls.  I seem to
>> have lost all.
>>
>> I've been thru Dale's & GFA's sites, but don't find them.  I've been
>> unsuccessful in
>> getting Ulli's play MP_ routine to play MP3, so I'm trying to thunk
>> xaudio.dll.  This
>> *.dll allows editing of MP sound files & will handle all versions, I'm
>told.
>>
>> If somebody has the simpler thunk routines, please send to me.  Thanks!
>
>I wrote an article on how to do generic thunking for Dale's newsletter a
>while back, I've attached that with a few examples.
>
>HTH,
>Russell Hayward
>
>Attachment Converted: C:\WORLDNET\DOWNLOAD\Thunking.zip
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From: Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: [gfabasic] disgusting development
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Can't play sound files while displaying images.  Images will NOT show if the
sound
has been started until it finishes.  I get one image, sound, one image,
sound, etc.

Never get images onscreen while sound is playing.  What a revolting development!

Found a means of doing all of this within limits, tho.  RadVideo is a game
building
appl that has it's own codecs & will play sound & images at the same time.  One
major problem...$3,000US for a single-user license.  The other limits are:
NO control
over what happens w/ the images once it starts.  Only <Esc> gets looked at -
that
shuts it all down.

I quit!
TomR.

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Subject: [gfabasic] WAV2MP2 converter
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
If interested, I will send a copy of a free *.wav to *.mp2 converter.  It is
a bit
larger than the 40K allowed on the list.

I find that a bitrate of 64K makes an *.mp2 smaller than the original *.wav
& it does
still sound clear.

I cannot use Ulli's MP2/MP3 routine on this computer for playing MP3s... it
simply 
will NOT play them.  These converted files must have an extension of mpG for
it to
play them.

I've been running small DOS appls from *.lst files, but this one is 32-bit &
will
NOT run from one, so it is necessary to type or copy/paste the commandline info 
into File - Run.  Beyond the executable's name, it requires "-b 64
filename.wav" to
execute & generate filename.mp2.

I found call32.dll finally.  The thunk *.dll.

<G>
TomR.

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Subject: Re: [gfabasic] disgusting development
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 09:57:44 -0700
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
You're not going to quit! You will be back at it tomorrow.
dale

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Record" <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net>
To: <gfabasic@gfa.net>
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2000 8:27 PM
Subject: [gfabasic] disgusting development


> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Can't play sound files while displaying images.  Images will NOT show if
the
> sound
> has been started until it finishes.  I get one image, sound, one image,
> sound, etc.
>
> Never get images onscreen while sound is playing.  What a revolting
development!
>
> Found a means of doing all of this within limits, tho.  RadVideo is a game
> building
> appl that has it's own codecs & will play sound & images at the same time.
One
> major problem...$3,000US for a single-user license.  The other limits are:
> NO control
> over what happens w/ the images once it starts.  Only <Esc> gets looked
at -
> that
> shuts it all down.
>
> I quit!
> TomR.
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Subject: Re: [gfabasic] Desktop Shortcut Icons in GFA?
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Hi Anthony,

> Thanks a million for the tips on where to start. I'll be eager to check
> out those options. I also had a thought this morning on another method
> that may work.

I think I may have got the answer. I had a 32-bit C compiler that I wanted
to test making a DLL with, so I tested it with this. It's pretty good, made
a very small DLL which works great, I've attached the DLL and an example of
calling it.

If you want to create a shortcut on the desktop you should get the desktop
directory using a better method that my example does, it doesn't take into
account multi-user computers or different languages.

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List Member Anthony Watson <awatson@pacifier.com> wrote:
Russell,

Thanks for the DLL, I'll try to check it out when I get the chance.

I ran across an idea yesterday that "should" allow me to create a shortcut
on the desktop, or any other directory, using standard Windows
API's. Unfortunately, I need to access the SHGetSpecialFolderLocation
function in the SHELL32.DLL. You mentioned this earlier, so I'm wondering
if you have a working example of how to do this? I'm getting there on my
own, but it is very slow going...

Take care,

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi Russ:

--- Russell Hayward <russ@softhome.net> wrote:
>=20
> Hi David,
> Yes doing it that way will never work, I've changed
> it and attached a
> working version.
>=20

'kay, how is this ?
You didna use FREEDC so I did right ?

- - -

DEFINT "A-Z"
DIALOG #1,10,100,600,360,"DEMO",0
ENDDIALOG
SHOWDIALOG #1
OldDC =3D _DC()
SETDC GetDC(DLG(1))
DEFFILL 0
PCIRCLE 50,50,50
DO
  PEEKEVENT
UNTIL MOUSEK
SETDC OldDC
FREEDC OldDC
CLOSEDIALOG #1

- - -

Long as I stay inside DLG(1) DC space stuff
I can draw right ?  This isn't too bad, not so
different from your WindowLock right ?  :)

Sincerely,
David W.

Can I add buttons to it after I did my ENDDIALOG
cause I don't really wanna be forced having to use
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi Anthony:

--- Anthony Watson <awatson@pacifier.com> wrote:
> List Member Anthony Watson <awatson@pacifier.com>
> wrote:
> David,
> Actually, I've seen the file format, and while it
> would certainly be
> possible to approach from a raw file standpoint, it
> is not the option I
> wish to pursue. For one, the file format is likely
> to change in the
> future, which means that approach may choke with
> future versions of
> Windows. I'd like to stick with something a bit more
> "official", even if
> it takes a work around approach to get there.
>=20
> Visit the wotsit.org site that Doyle mentioned.
> They've got the bitmap
> format, and hundreds of others too. It has been a
> valuable resource for me
> the past couple of years.
>=20
> Anthony

What's that word you're using there ?
Lurr, lurrrhhh..  Luurneeen ?

Learning ?  Never heard of it, I find out stuff by
example mostly or tweaking thinks till they work.  :)

Being all serious for a sec, yah I went in wotsit.org
long time back when me and Russell were working on
stuff, it's there but it's HARD to follow a lot of it
too many tables jimble jangle with long numbers
and sticky math.  Not good..  Prefer example or,
the mother of all teachers (and the one that
guarantees
the hardest knocks) EXPERIENCE.

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi Tom:

--- Tom Record
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> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Can't play sound files while displaying images.=20
> Images will NOT show if the
> sound
> has been started until it finishes.  I get one
> image, sound, one image,
> sound, etc.
>=20
> Never get images onscreen while sound is playing.=20
> What a revolting development!
>=20
> Found a means of doing all of this within limits,
> tho.  RadVideo is a game
> building
> appl that has it's own codecs & will play sound &
> images at the same time.  One
> major problem...$3,000US for a single-user license.=20
> The other limits are:
> NO control
> over what happens w/ the images once it starts.=20
> Only <Esc> gets looked at -
> that
> shuts it all down.
>=20
> I quit!
> TomR.

Hey Tom !

Don't quit..  If you need this app what's the name of
it and maybe I can get it for you cause I curious
too maybe ?  :)

Gamebuilding language sounds neat !  Can it do RPGs
too ?

Sincerely,
David W.

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--- Dale Bryant <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
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Yah listen to Dale, Tom !  Dale knows all about us
and how programming just completely OBSESSES our
lives save food, shelter, and the liqueur of life
can only be ...

COFFEE !  :)

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Hi David,

> 'kay, how is this ?
> You didna use FREEDC so I did right ?
>
> - - -
>
> DEFINT "A-Z"
> DIALOG #1,10,100,600,360,"DEMO",0
> ENDDIALOG
> SHOWDIALOG #1
> OldDC = _DC()
> SETDC GetDC(DLG(1))
> DEFFILL 0
> PCIRCLE 50,50,50
> DO
>   PEEKEVENT
> UNTIL MOUSEK
> SETDC OldDC
> FREEDC OldDC
> CLOSEDIALOG #1

It's not quite right, FREEDC frees the memory for DCs you have created (with
CreateCompatibleDC or MEMDC for example). The DC you are drawing to in the
example is got (GetDC) and when you do that you must call ReleaseDC:

OldDC=_DC() ' Save current GFA DC
DlgDC=GetDC(DLG(1))
SETDC DlgDC
DEFFILL 0
' Draw stuff
SETDC OldDC
~ReleaseDC(DLG(1),DlgDC)

I just realized that my first example was a bit dodgy, this one is better.

> Can I add buttons to it after I did my ENDDIALOG
> cause I don't really wanna be forced having to use
> define them only inside the define for a dialog ?

I'm not sure if GFA functions can do it, it certainly can be done with
CreateWindow(Ex).

HTH,
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Hi Anthony,

> I ran across an idea yesterday that "should" allow me to create a shortcut
> on the desktop, or any other directory, using standard Windows
> API's. Unfortunately, I need to access the SHGetSpecialFolderLocation
> function in the SHELL32.DLL. You mentioned this earlier, so I'm wondering
> if you have a working example of how to do this? I'm getting there on my
> own, but it is very slow going...

I have written an example of using SHGetSpecialFolderLocation, it seems to
work well except it may not free a few bytes it should. I can't see any way
to free those bytes (except using 32-bit COM which is impossible), it might
be done automatically when the program closes, I don't know. Even if it is
never freed, you would have to run it a awful lot of times to notice the
difference.

Good luck with your standard API method, the less DLLs in the world the
better I say!

HTH,
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List Member "Lou Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
Hi:

The following allows me tho get the data from sector 0 (boot sector) on any
drive; before DOS 7 I could get much useful info. Because of the changes in
the new drives, some of this info as ?moved (some probably needs more room);
for instance, it's fairly easy to pick out the FAT type & the volume name.
Anyways, here's the 'old' routine (you need the 'new' INTR $21 to get the
info from FAT32 drives):

@get_data(0,1)

PROCEDURE get_data(xsec,numsec)
  LOCAL temp$=SPACE$(10)
  DEFMOUSE 2
  buf$ = SPACE$(numsec * $200)
  dsk = drv - 64
  adr = V:temp$
  LONG{adr} = xsec
  WORD{adr + 4} = numsec
  LONG{adr + 6} = V:buf$
  _DS = HIWORD(V:temp$)
  _BX = LOWORD(V:temp$)
  ~INTR($21,_SI = 0,_CX = $FFFF,_DL = dsk,_AX = $7305)
  flg! = TRUE
  DEFMOUSE 0
  IF ODD(_FL)
    BEEP
    @Get_Error_Code
    ~^bwccMessageBox(hWndSec&,mess$,title$,style3)
    flg! = FALSE
  ENDIF
RETURN
'
PROCEDURE get_drv_info
  flg! = TRUE
  /* this is new
  temp = 55                   /* FAT12/16
  temp2$ = MID$(buf$,temp,3)
  IF temp2$ <> "FAT"
    temp = 83                 /* FAT32
    temp2$ = MID$(buf$,temp,3)
  ENDIF
  IF temp2$ <> "FAT"
    flg! = FALSE
    EXPROC
  ENDIF
  /* ***
  adr = V:buf$ + 11
  byt& = WORD{adr}
  tsec = WORD{adr + 8}
  IF tsec = 0 THEN tsec = LONG{adr + 21}
  boot& = WORD{adr + 3}
  hsec = LONG{adr + 17}
  clus| = BYTE{adr + 2}
  trak& = WORD{adr + 13}
  nfat| = BYTE{adr + 5}
  sfat& = WORD{adr + 11}
  head& = WORD{adr + 15}
  root& = WORD{adr + 6}
  root_start = boot& + (nfat| * sfat&)
  total_space = tsec * byt&
  ser$ = HEX$(BYTE{adr + 31},2) + HEX$(BYTE{adr + 30},2) + "-" +
HEX$(BYTE{adr + 29},2) + HEX$(BYTE{adr + 28},2)
  IF temp = 55
    nme$ = MID$(buf$,44,11)
    fat$ = MID$(buf$,58,2) + "-bit"
  ELSE
    nme$ = MID$(buf$,72,11)
    fat$ = MID$(buf$,86,2) + "-bit"
  ENDIF
RETURN
/*

You'll note that the volume name (nme$) has moved from an offset of 44 in
FAT 12/16 to an offset of 72 in FAT32 -- 28 more bytes. In all my reading
material -- all that stuf from MicroSoft, I can not find the changes, only
that there is changes. 'QUE' put out a book called the DOS Programmers'
Reference (v.3 & 4) where I got my original info (for up to DOS 6.22) but I
can't find any since then.

Any help would be deeply appreciated.

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
questions to: support@radgametools.com. We're here to help!=20
Donno what can be done, David.  It won't do what I want & costs $3,000!
TomR.


At 04:02 PM 20/07/00 -0700, you wrote:
>List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Hi Tom:
>
>--- Tom Record
><tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> List Member Tom Record
>> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> Can't play sound files while displaying images.=20
>> Images will NOT show if the
>> sound
>> has been started until it finishes.  I get one
>> image, sound, one image,
>> sound, etc.
>>=20
>> Never get images onscreen while sound is playing.=20
>> What a revolting development!
>>=20
>> Found a means of doing all of this within limits,
>> tho.  RadVideo is a game
>> building
>> appl that has it's own codecs & will play sound &
>> images at the same time.  One
>> major problem...$3,000US for a single-user license.=20
>> The other limits are:
>> NO control
>> over what happens w/ the images once it starts.=20
>> Only <Esc> gets looked at -
>> that
>> shuts it all down.
>>=20
>> I quit!
>> TomR.
>
>Hey Tom !
>
>Don't quit..  If you need this app what's the name of
>it and maybe I can get it for you cause I curious
>too maybe ?  :)
>
>Gamebuilding language sounds neat !  Can it do RPGs
>too ?
>
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Hi  Again:

Tom, quite reasonably asked for the whole routine (see attachment)  because
the way I sent it gave mucho errors.. What I'm looking for is the
differences between FAT12/16 & FAT32 info that is contained in sector 0 of
any logical drive. If you run rhis & change the drive designation from a
12/16-bit FAT to a 32-bit FAT drive you will find that the term FAT?? has
moved sooooo some of the info has move/gotten larger or whatever. What I'm
looking for is the changes I have to make to GET_DRV_INFO routine to include
FAT32 drives.

Thanx in advance.

                         -->Bev<--

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From: "Lou Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com>
To: "Gfa-Mailing List" <gfabasic@gfa.net>
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2000 11:39 PM
Subject: re: Boot Sector


> Hi:
>
> The following allows me tho get the data from sector 0 (boot sector) on
any
> drive; before DOS 7 I could get much useful info. Because of the changes
in
> the new drives, some of this info as ?moved (some probably needs more
room);
> for instance, it's fairly easy to pick out the FAT type & the volume name.
> Anyways, here's the 'old' routine (you need the 'new' INTR $21 to get the
> info from FAT32 drives):
>
> @get_data(0,1)
>
> PROCEDURE get_data(xsec,numsec)
>   LOCAL temp$=SPACE$(10)
>   DEFMOUSE 2
>   buf$ = SPACE$(numsec * $200)
>   dsk = drv - 64
>   adr = V:temp$
>   LONG{adr} = xsec
>   WORD{adr + 4} = numsec
>   LONG{adr + 6} = V:buf$
>   _DS = HIWORD(V:temp$)
>   _BX = LOWORD(V:temp$)
>   ~INTR($21,_SI = 0,_CX = $FFFF,_DL = dsk,_AX = $7305)
>   flg! = TRUE
>   DEFMOUSE 0
>   IF ODD(_FL)
>     BEEP
>     @Get_Error_Code
>     ~^bwccMessageBox(hWndSec&,mess$,title$,style3)
>     flg! = FALSE
>   ENDIF
> RETURN
> '
> PROCEDURE get_drv_info
>   flg! = TRUE
>   /* this is new
>   temp = 55                   /* FAT12/16
>   temp2$ = MID$(buf$,temp,3)
>   IF temp2$ <> "FAT"
>     temp = 83                 /* FAT32
>     temp2$ = MID$(buf$,temp,3)
>   ENDIF
>   IF temp2$ <> "FAT"
>     flg! = FALSE
>     EXPROC
>   ENDIF
>   /* ***
>   adr = V:buf$ + 11
>   byt& = WORD{adr}
>   tsec = WORD{adr + 8}
>   IF tsec = 0 THEN tsec = LONG{adr + 21}
>   boot& = WORD{adr + 3}
>   hsec = LONG{adr + 17}
>   clus| = BYTE{adr + 2}
>   trak& = WORD{adr + 13}
>   nfat| = BYTE{adr + 5}
>   sfat& = WORD{adr + 11}
>   head& = WORD{adr + 15}
>   root& = WORD{adr + 6}
>   root_start = boot& + (nfat| * sfat&)
>   total_space = tsec * byt&
>   ser$ = HEX$(BYTE{adr + 31},2) + HEX$(BYTE{adr + 30},2) + "-" +
> HEX$(BYTE{adr + 29},2) + HEX$(BYTE{adr + 28},2)
>   IF temp = 55
>     nme$ = MID$(buf$,44,11)
>     fat$ = MID$(buf$,58,2) + "-bit"
>   ELSE
>     nme$ = MID$(buf$,72,11)
>     fat$ = MID$(buf$,86,2) + "-bit"
>   ENDIF
> RETURN
> /*
>
> You'll note that the volume name (nme$) has moved from an offset of 44 in
> FAT 12/16 to an offset of 72 in FAT32 -- 28 more bytes. In all my reading
> material -- all that stuf from MicroSoft, I can not find the changes, only
> that there is changes. 'QUE' put out a book called the DOS Programmers'
> Reference (v.3 & 4) where I got my original info (for up to DOS 6.22) but
I
> can't find any since then.
>
> Any help would be deeply appreciated.
>
>                          -->Bev<--
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List Member "Eberhard Funck" <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de> wrote:
Hallo Russell,

You can free rhe few bytes with ~CoTaskMemFree(pidl)

FUNCTION CoTaskMemFree32(pidl)
  hole32 =  ^LoadLibraryEx32W ("Ole32.dll",0,0)
  adr = ^GetProcAddress32W (hole32, "CoTaskMemFree")
  RETURN P:(lpf32) (L:lpPidl, L:adr, L:%0, L:1)
  ~^FreeLibrary32W(hole32)
 ENDFUNC

Greetings

Eberhard



|
|Hi Anthony,
|
|> I ran across an idea yesterday that "should" allow me to create a
shortcut
|> on the desktop, or any other directory, using standard Windows
|> API's. Unfortunately, I need to access the SHGetSpecialFolderLocation
|> function in the SHELL32.DLL. You mentioned this earlier, so I'm wondering
|> if you have a working example of how to do this? I'm getting there on my
|> own, but it is very slow going...
|
|I have written an example of using SHGetSpecialFolderLocation, it seems to
|work well except it may not free a few bytes it should. I can't see any way
|to free those bytes (except using 32-bit COM which is impossible), it might
|be done automatically when the program closes, I don't know. Even if it is
|never freed, you would have to run it a awful lot of times to notice the
|difference.
|
|Good luck with your standard API method, the less DLLs in the world the
|better I say!
|
|HTH,
|Russell Hayward
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hey Russ, Morning !
Ready for the weekend ?  :)

> Hi David,
> It's not quite right, FREEDC frees the memory for
> DCs you have created (with
> CreateCompatibleDC or MEMDC for example). The DC you
> are drawing to in the
> example is got (GetDC) and when you do that you must
> call ReleaseDC:
>=20
> OldDC=3D_DC() ' Save current GFA DC
> DlgDC=3DGetDC(DLG(1))
> SETDC DlgDC
> DEFFILL 0
> ' Draw stuff
> SETDC OldDC
> ~ReleaseDC(DLG(1),DlgDC)
>=20
> I just realized that my first example was a bit
> dodgy, this one is better.

Acch..  I'm never gonna learn this stuff..  :)
Okay, got ~ReleaseDC(), that's fine, now I CANNOT
use  BUTTON  cause that requires a window to be open.
You've got a CreateWindow(ex) example, lemme look at
that for a sec..

CreateWindowEx(512,"Edit","Hello",WS_CHILD | ->
WS_VISIBLE | ES_AUTOHSCROLL,10,10,100,100,WIN ->
(1),100,_INSTANCE,NULL)

OK, CreateWindowEx does not work with BUTTON either.
Wants Window only, which is no good cause can't have
tabbing fields, going back to DIALOG then and try
for buttons made in it only and graphics too.

NOPE !  No good..  Here is final template.
I see that I =3DMUST=3D have my button definitions inside
of the DIALOG definitions which >Kor!< David that
makes perfect sense cause it keeps all that within its
focus sorta like a window in a window.  What kinna
cheapo window would allow tab-fields within its entire
frame ?  Putting buttons inside the dialog structure
itself does make sense..  Grmbll. Mrmbll..  :)

- - -
DEFINT "A-Z"
DIALOG #1,10,100,600,360,"",0
  BUTTON "A",100,12,14,72,20,WS_TABSTOP
  BUTTON "B",100,12,34,72,20,WS_TABSTOP
ENDDIALOG
SHOWDIALOG #1
OldDC =3D _DC()
SETDC GetDC(DLG(1))
DEFFILL 0
PCIRCLE 50,50,50
DO
  PEEKEVENT
UNTIL MOUSEK
SETDC OldDC
~ReleaseDC(DLG(1),OldDC)
CLOSEDIALOG #1
- - -

[TAB] key jumps from one to an-other, click mouse
to exit.

Sincerely,
David W.


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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hi Anthony,
> Good luck with your standard API method,
> the less DLLs in the world the better I say!
  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Here here !  Barkeep another round for my good
friend Russell !  :)

Sincerely,
David W.

(Yah but I gotta have that DLL for that good
 Unzipper tho!)


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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi Tom:

--- Tom Record
<tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> questions to: support@radgametools.com. We're here
> to help!=20
> Donno what can be done, David.  It won't do what I
> want & costs $3,000!
> TomR.

Well let's examine this..

1) It won't do what I want.
2) It costs $3000 dollars.

Statement =3D1=3D cancels out statement =3D2=3D right ?
So cost is not an issue ?
Or, or you saying that maybe it could do what you
wanted if you did have it, but the version you have
currently will =3DNOT=3D do what you want unless you
had the purchased version ?

(I'm just trying to understand this!) :)

Sincerely,
David W.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Lou Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com>
To: "Gfa-Mailing List" <gfabasic@gfa.net>
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2000 8:39 PM
Subject: re: [gfabasic] Boot Sector


> List Member "Lou Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
> Hi:
>
> The following allows me tho get the data from sector 0 (boot sector) on
any
> drive; before DOS 7 I could get much useful info. Because of the changes
in
> the new drives, some of this info as ?moved (some probably needs more
room);
> for instance, it's fairly easy to pick out the FAT type & the volume name.
> Anyways, here's the 'old' routine (you need the 'new' INTR $21 to get the
> info from FAT32 drives):
>
> @get_data(0,1)
>
> PROCEDURE get_data(xsec,numsec)
>   LOCAL temp$=SPACE$(10)
>   DEFMOUSE 2
>   buf$ = SPACE$(numsec * $200)
>   dsk = drv - 64
>   adr = V:temp$
>   LONG{adr} = xsec
>   WORD{adr + 4} = numsec
>   LONG{adr + 6} = V:buf$
>   _DS = HIWORD(V:temp$)
>   _BX = LOWORD(V:temp$)
>   ~INTR($21,_SI = 0,_CX = $FFFF,_DL = dsk,_AX = $7305)
>   flg! = TRUE
>   DEFMOUSE 0
>   IF ODD(_FL)
>     BEEP
>     @Get_Error_Code
>     ~^bwccMessageBox(hWndSec&,mess$,title$,style3)
>     flg! = FALSE
>   ENDIF
> RETURN
> '
> PROCEDURE get_drv_info
>   flg! = TRUE
>   /* this is new
>   temp = 55                   /* FAT12/16
>   temp2$ = MID$(buf$,temp,3)
>   IF temp2$ <> "FAT"
>     temp = 83                 /* FAT32
>     temp2$ = MID$(buf$,temp,3)
>   ENDIF
>   IF temp2$ <> "FAT"
>     flg! = FALSE
>     EXPROC
>   ENDIF
>   /* ***
>   adr = V:buf$ + 11
>   byt& = WORD{adr}
>   tsec = WORD{adr + 8}
>   IF tsec = 0 THEN tsec = LONG{adr + 21}
>   boot& = WORD{adr + 3}
>   hsec = LONG{adr + 17}
>   clus| = BYTE{adr + 2}
>   trak& = WORD{adr + 13}
>   nfat| = BYTE{adr + 5}
>   sfat& = WORD{adr + 11}
>   head& = WORD{adr + 15}
>   root& = WORD{adr + 6}
>   root_start = boot& + (nfat| * sfat&)
>   total_space = tsec * byt&
>   ser$ = HEX$(BYTE{adr + 31},2) + HEX$(BYTE{adr + 30},2) + "-" +
> HEX$(BYTE{adr + 29},2) + HEX$(BYTE{adr + 28},2)
>   IF temp = 55
>     nme$ = MID$(buf$,44,11)
>     fat$ = MID$(buf$,58,2) + "-bit"
>   ELSE
>     nme$ = MID$(buf$,72,11)
>     fat$ = MID$(buf$,86,2) + "-bit"
>   ENDIF
> RETURN
> /*
>
> You'll note that the volume name (nme$) has moved from an offset of 44 in
> FAT 12/16 to an offset of 72 in FAT32 -- 28 more bytes. In all my reading
> material -- all that stuf from MicroSoft, I can not find the changes, only
> that there is changes. 'QUE' put out a book called the DOS Programmers'
> Reference (v.3 & 4) where I got my original info (for up to DOS 6.22) but
I
> can't find any since then.
>
> Any help would be deeply appreciated.
>
>                          -->Bev<--
>
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Lou Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com>
To: "Gfa-Mailing List" <gfabasic@gfa.net>
Sent: Friday, July 21, 2000 12:14 AM
Subject: [gfabasic] Fw: Boot Sector


> Hi  Again:
>
> Tom, quite reasonably asked for the whole routine (see attachment)
because
> the way I sent it gave mucho errors.. What I'm looking for is the
> differences between FAT12/16 & FAT32 info that is contained in sector 0 of
> any logical drive. If you run rhis & change the drive designation from a
> 12/16-bit FAT to a 32-bit FAT drive you will find that the term FAT?? has
> moved sooooo some of the info has move/gotten larger or whatever. What I'm
> looking for is the changes I have to make to GET_DRV_INFO routine to
include
> FAT32 drives.
>
> Thanx in advance.
>
>                          -->Bev<--
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lou Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com>
> To: "Gfa-Mailing List" <gfabasic@gfa.net>
> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2000 11:39 PM
> Subject: re: Boot Sector
>
>
> > Hi:
> >
> > The following allows me tho get the data from sector 0 (boot sector) on
> any
> > drive; before DOS 7 I could get much useful info. Because of the changes
> in
> > the new drives, some of this info as ?moved (some probably needs more
> room);
> > for instance, it's fairly easy to pick out the FAT type & the volume
name.
> > Anyways, here's the 'old' routine (you need the 'new' INTR $21 to get
the
> > info from FAT32 drives):
> >
> > @get_data(0,1)
> >
> > PROCEDURE get_data(xsec,numsec)
> >   LOCAL temp$=SPACE$(10)
> >   DEFMOUSE 2
> >   buf$ = SPACE$(numsec * $200)
> >   dsk = drv - 64
> >   adr = V:temp$
> >   LONG{adr} = xsec
> >   WORD{adr + 4} = numsec
> >   LONG{adr + 6} = V:buf$
> >   _DS = HIWORD(V:temp$)
> >   _BX = LOWORD(V:temp$)
> >   ~INTR($21,_SI = 0,_CX = $FFFF,_DL = dsk,_AX = $7305)
> >   flg! = TRUE
> >   DEFMOUSE 0
> >   IF ODD(_FL)
> >     BEEP
> >     @Get_Error_Code
> >     ~^bwccMessageBox(hWndSec&,mess$,title$,style3)
> >     flg! = FALSE
> >   ENDIF
> > RETURN
> > '
> > PROCEDURE get_drv_info
> >   flg! = TRUE
> >   /* this is new
> >   temp = 55                   /* FAT12/16
> >   temp2$ = MID$(buf$,temp,3)
> >   IF temp2$ <> "FAT"
> >     temp = 83                 /* FAT32
> >     temp2$ = MID$(buf$,temp,3)
> >   ENDIF
> >   IF temp2$ <> "FAT"
> >     flg! = FALSE
> >     EXPROC
> >   ENDIF
> >   /* ***
> >   adr = V:buf$ + 11
> >   byt& = WORD{adr}
> >   tsec = WORD{adr + 8}
> >   IF tsec = 0 THEN tsec = LONG{adr + 21}
> >   boot& = WORD{adr + 3}
> >   hsec = LONG{adr + 17}
> >   clus| = BYTE{adr + 2}
> >   trak& = WORD{adr + 13}
> >   nfat| = BYTE{adr + 5}
> >   sfat& = WORD{adr + 11}
> >   head& = WORD{adr + 15}
> >   root& = WORD{adr + 6}
> >   root_start = boot& + (nfat| * sfat&)
> >   total_space = tsec * byt&
> >   ser$ = HEX$(BYTE{adr + 31},2) + HEX$(BYTE{adr + 30},2) + "-" +
> > HEX$(BYTE{adr + 29},2) + HEX$(BYTE{adr + 28},2)
> >   IF temp = 55
> >     nme$ = MID$(buf$,44,11)
> >     fat$ = MID$(buf$,58,2) + "-bit"
> >   ELSE
> >     nme$ = MID$(buf$,72,11)
> >     fat$ = MID$(buf$,86,2) + "-bit"
> >   ENDIF
> > RETURN
> > /*
> >
> > You'll note that the volume name (nme$) has moved from an offset of 44
in
> > FAT 12/16 to an offset of 72 in FAT32 -- 28 more bytes. In all my
reading
> > material -- all that stuf from MicroSoft, I can not find the changes,
only
> > that there is changes. 'QUE' put out a book called the DOS Programmers'
> > Reference (v.3 & 4) where I got my original info (for up to DOS 6.22)
but
> I
> > can't find any since then.
> >
> > Any help would be deeply appreciated.
> >
> >                          -->Bev<--
> >
> >
> >
>

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
I yield!  I cannot play a sound file of any sort while displaying images.

Ulli's sweet little routine will now NOT play any form of mpeg sound for me.

I have upgraded MediaPlayer & substituted most of the modules from Win98.

You have it from the horse's mouth (& ass) that I give up on the project.

If anybody is interested in the appls & other crap I've collected, just ask.

TomR.

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi Russell:

Okay I just am now I am also seeing that I can't
use MENU for pull-down menus inside a dialog either.
(SIGH)  I'll go with my original plans to interrupt
keyboard and search for that elusive [TAB] key.
:/

Sincerely,
David W.

The graphics and buttons work great but no pull-down
menu and I can't use GetFocus() either to see if you
put this window away for a sec.

--- David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hi Tom:
>=20
> --- Tom Record
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> > List Member Tom Record
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> > to help!=20
> > Donno what can be done, David.  It won't do what I
> > want & costs $3,000!
> > TomR.
>=20
> Well let's examine this..
>=20
> 1) It won't do what I want.
> 2) It costs $3000 dollars.
>=20
> Statement =3D1=3D cancels out statement =3D2=3D right ?
> So cost is not an issue ?
> Or, or you saying that maybe it could do what you
> wanted if you did have it, but the version you have
> currently will =3DNOT=3D do what you want unless you
> had the purchased version ?
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List Member "John Findlay" <John.Findlay@Byte-it.net> wrote:
> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> I yield!  I cannot play a sound file of any sort while displaying images.

You must be able to play in an ASYNC mode.

Regards,

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
1) many other caspabilities available AFTER paying for it.
2) anything more than $20-$30 is out of the question for me.
TomR.



At 08:37 AM 21/07/00 -0700, you wrote:
>List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Hi Tom:
>
>--- Tom Record
><tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> List Member Tom Record
>> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> questions to: support@radgametools.com. We're here
>> to help!=20
>> Donno what can be done, David.  It won't do what I
>> want & costs $3,000!
>> TomR.
>
>Well let's examine this..
>
>1) It won't do what I want.
>2) It costs $3000 dollars.
>
>Statement =3D1=3D cancels out statement =3D2=3D right ?
>So cost is not an issue ?
>Or, or you saying that maybe it could do what you
>wanted if you did have it, but the version you have
>currently will =3DNOT=3D do what you want unless you
>had the purchased version ?
>
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
That's what I thot, John.  Donno any way to do MP2 that way, but doesn't matter
'cause it won't play now anyway.  I've grown terminally tired & disgusted w/ the
whole damned thing.  I've wasted a ton of hours online running searches for 
products that can make the conversions I wanted & am totally disgusted w/
getting
shuffled off into never-never land w/ subjects that have absolutely NOTHING
to do
with what I search for.

To retain interest in anything, I MUST have at least a modicum of success.
Splitting
MP2 out of MPG is easy.  Playing them in the background is impossible.  Can
go w/ WAV,
but MP2 is much smaller file.  If I didn't give a damn, I could have 1M of
sound w/ 6M 
of images.  A 7M to 10M screensaver is out of the question.  I have a
website for them,
but it has a 170K file download restriction.  Can't do much w/ *that*.

I *had* Ulli's routine working for "run once" & "run repeat", but now it
refuses to
run *any*.  I may as well put back all of the Win95 modules I've swapped out
for Win98s
to try getting things to work.  Ulli can run MP3 on *his* computer.

I'm just fed up w/ non-progress.
TomR.


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>List Member "John Findlay" <John.Findlay@Byte-it.net> wrote:
>> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> I yield!  I cannot play a sound file of any sort while displaying images.
>
>You must be able to play in an ASYNC mode.
>
>Regards,
>
>John
>
>
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List Member "Mike Fooks" <Mick.Fooks@btinternet.com> wrote:
I have a number of projects lined up, the next one involved deep surgery
into hard disks but I've been side-stepped by these blasted APIs - head is
reelling with new information. I searched everywhere for a replacement for
my DOS5 Prog. Reference by QUE but couldn't find anything.

However I did stumble across 'Windows 95 File System' by O'Reilly which
delves into FAT32 and NetBios filing systems. It's an excellent
investegative book, 100% C, and comes complete with a floppy full of
snooping programs. Unfortunately the tone of the book is that of an
investigation into the filing systems found in Windows95 rather than a
look-up reference book, and yes it is heavy and technical but very well
presented. Regrettably I only got to page 42 - a discussion on V86 Interrupt
handlers when I got distracted by these APIs. One day I will return!
Meantime that floppy could help some-one maybe?

Mike
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In all my reading
> > > material -- all that stuf from MicroSoft, I can not find the changes,
> only
> > > that there is changes. 'QUE' put out a book called the DOS
Programmers'
> > > Reference (v.3 & 4) where I got my original info (for up to DOS 6.22)
> but
> > I
> > > can't find any since then.
> > >
> > > Any help would be deeply appreciated.
> > >
> > >                          -->Bev<--
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> > >
> > >
> >
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi Tom:

--- Tom Record
<tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> I yield!  I cannot play a sound file of any sort
> while displaying images.
>=20
> Ulli's sweet little routine will now NOT play any
> form of mpeg sound for me.

* I don't know if this means anything or helps
  I gotta plug-in hardware for my Playstation it
  will play movies from any Playstation CD, the
  directory shows 2 different files, movie and
  audio.  When you play movie it plays audio as well.
  The two files themselves aren't actually connected
  as one.  Maybe split them apart like my
  Playstation plug-in does and even tho they're
  separate they play together ?

>=20
> I have upgraded MediaPlayer & substituted most of
> the modules from Win98.
>=20
> You have it from the horse's mouth (& ass) that I
> give up on the project.
>=20
> If anybody is interested in the appls & other crap
> I've collected, just ask.

* Just a thought..

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Greetings Tom:

--- Tom Record
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> 1) many other caspabilities available AFTER paying
> for it.
> 2) anything more than $20-$30 is out of the question
> for me.
> TomR.

* Well..  What's the name of it and I can check on
  what I can find on it to let you try it full
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Okay, now it seems I need to close either my window
or Dialog box completely in order to "move" or
"delete" a dialog gizmo ?

I can do this but it is going to look  UG-IL-Y !
:/

Is there an easier way where I can actually:

DialogZapGizmo 999
DialogMoveGizmo 999,X,Y

?

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List Member "Russell Hayward" <russ@softhome.net> wrote:

Hi David,

> Ready for the weekend ?  :)

As ready as I'll ever be.

> > OldDC=_DC() ' Save current GFA DC
> > DlgDC=GetDC(DLG(1))
> > SETDC DlgDC
> > DEFFILL 0
> > ' Draw stuff
> > SETDC OldDC
> > ~ReleaseDC(DLG(1),DlgDC)
> >
> > I just realized that my first example was a bit
> > dodgy, this one is better.
>
> Acch..  I'm never gonna learn this stuff..  :)
> Okay, got ~ReleaseDC(), that's fine, now I CANNOT
> use  BUTTON  cause that requires a window to be open.

Sorry, I don't understand how drawing in a dialog stops you creating a child
window in it, could you explain?

> You've got a CreateWindow(ex) example, lemme look at
> that for a sec..
>
> CreateWindowEx(512,"Edit","Hello",WS_CHILD | ->
> WS_VISIBLE | ES_AUTOHSCROLL,10,10,100,100,WIN ->
> (1),100,_INSTANCE,NULL)
>
> OK, CreateWindowEx does not work with BUTTON either.
> Wants Window only, which is no good cause can't have
> tabbing fields, going back to DIALOG then and try
> for buttons made in it only and graphics too.

How to create a button with CreateWindow:

DIALOG #1,100,100,300,300,"Dialog",WS_SYSMENU
  ~CreateWindow("Button","Hello",WS_CHILD | WS_VISIBLE |
BS_PUSHBUTTON,10,10,100,100,DLG(1),222,_INSTANCE,NULL) 'On one line
  ' Is the same as
  '  BUTTON "Hello",222,10,10,100,100
ENDDIALOG

A bit longer, but more flexible.

> NOPE !  No good..  Here is final template.
> I see that I =MUST= have my button definitions inside
> of the DIALOG definitions which >Kor!< David that
> makes perfect sense cause it keeps all that within its
> focus sorta like a window in a window.  What kinna
> cheapo window would allow tab-fields within its entire
> frame ?  Putting buttons inside the dialog structure
> itself does make sense..  Grmbll. Mrmbll..  :)

It's your choice, depends on what you are trying to do.

Good luck,
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List Member "Russell Hayward" <russ@softhome.net> wrote:

Hi David,

> Okay I just am now I am also seeing that I can't
> use MENU for pull-down menus inside a dialog either.
> (SIGH)

Here's an example of creating a menu in a dialog:

DIALOG #1,100,100,300,300,"Dialog",WS_SYSMENU
ENDDIALOG

hMenu = CreateMenu()
hPopup = CreatePopupMenu()

' Create the pop-up menu items
~AppendMenu(hPopup, MF_STRING, 10,"&New")
~AppendMenu(hPopup, MF_STRING, 11,"&Save")
~AppendMenu(hPopup, MF_STRING, 12,"&Save As")

~AppendMenu(hmenu, MF_POPUP,hPopup,"&File")

~SetMenu(DLG(1),hMenu)

SHOWDIALOG #1
REPEAT
  SLEEP
UNTIL MENU(1)=4
CLOSEDIALOG #1

> I'll go with my original plans to interrupt
> keyboard and search for that elusive [TAB] key.
> :/

We've been at this stage before, have you seen Tabbing.gfw? :-)

> The graphics and buttons work great but no pull-down
> menu and I can't use GetFocus() either to see if you
> put this window away for a sec.

I've never known GetFocus not to work, what's happening?

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> You can free rhe few bytes with ~CoTaskMemFree(pidl)
>
> FUNCTION CoTaskMemFree32(pidl)
>   hole32 =  ^LoadLibraryEx32W ("Ole32.dll",0,0)
>   adr = ^GetProcAddress32W (hole32, "CoTaskMemFree")
>   RETURN P:(lpf32) (L:lpPidl, L:adr, L:%0, L:1)
>   ~^FreeLibrary32W(hole32)
>  ENDFUNC

That's great, thanks Eberhard, much nicer than the way I usually do it!

For anyone who's interested, I've attached the now memory-leak free
GetSpecialDir$ function.

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List Member "Russell Hayward" <russ@softhome.net> wrote:

Hi David,

> Okay, now it seems I need to close either my window
> or Dialog box completely in order to "move" or
> "delete" a dialog gizmo ?

You have to remember they are just windows (created with CreateWindow), you
can do anything to them that you can do to your main window:

' Move
~MoveWindow(DLGITEM(0,ID),50,50,400,400,1)

' Delete
~DestroyWindow(DLGITEM(0,ID))

HTH,
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Thanks, but don't waste time on it, David.  Looks like one can easily have
$7,000 or
more invested & for a $0 return, I don't think so.  I was just grasping at
straws.
TomR.


At 04:25 PM 21/07/00 -0700, you wrote:
>List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Greetings Tom:
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>--- Tom Record
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>> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> 1) many other caspabilities available AFTER paying
>> for it.
>> 2) anything more than $20-$30 is out of the question
>> for me.
>> TomR.
>
>* Well..  What's the name of it and I can check on
>  what I can find on it to let you try it full
>  version ?
>
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List Member "John Findlay" <John.Findlay@Byte-it.net> wrote:

> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

I don't know much about this stuff but would think that you should be able
to play mp files asynchronously.

MIDI files are smaller, would they not be good enough for your requirements?

> Ulli can run MP3 on *his* computer.

Send me some stuff, not to big mind, and I'll have a go.

John



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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
John
I appreciate very much that you are willing to tackle the problem I have,
but given
the fact that there appears to be less than minute interest among the
others, I don't
feel right getting you involved.  It's a lost cause, in my estimation.

You said send "small" files.  Can't happen very easily... they get pretty large.

You asked wouldn't *.mid serve... Nope - can't do voice as far as I know.  Music
is fine, but it gives no chance to re-use sound tracks salvaged from *.mpg
or *.wav.

There appears to be extremely little interest in Level-II (MP2) these days,
so things
are a bit larger.  I've wasted a tremendous amount of time chasing around
the internet
looking for software capable of producing/editing/using MP2 & playing them
in the
background.

In light of my not being able to stir up very much interest among the copyright
owners of images & *.mpg movies, I think I'll just drop the subject & give
*everybody*
a well deserved rest.

I've had a look at GFA(32)... you guys are welcome to it.  It's time for a major
housecleaning on this computer.  Things are beginning to change on me without my
being able to see why.  Ulli's & David's player routines no longer work at all &
just a couple of days ago, I had all of that working.

Thank you for being willing.
<G>
TomR.

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List Member "John Findlay" <John.Findlay@Byte-it.net> wrote:
Tom,

> I don't feel right getting you involved.  It's a lost cause, in my
estimation.

Ok.

> I've had a look at GFA(32)... you guys are welcome to it.

Since using GB32 my enjoyment in programming has increased quite a bit. :-)

> It's time for a major housecleaning on this computer.

Mine needs some work also. Need to upgrade as well. Faster CPU, more hard
drive space, 56k modem, ram, etc. My son gave me a 128bit sound card and a
3D graphics card a while back, very nice!

Regards,

John




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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Found: MP3->WAV/WAV->MP3 converter.  FREE, WORKS!, is Windows, NOT DOS.
Have: WAV->MP2 converter.  FREE.  Is DOS, won't run in DOS box.
Need: MP2->WAV converter.  FREE.

Have: MPG->sound & video streams converter.  FREE.  Sound is MP2 in disguise.
Have: MPG->RAW converter.  FREE.  Resulting file is often quite large!
Have: RAW->DIB (8-bit) converter.  FREE.  Resulting files will equal the
size of 
      the RAW file.

The world seems to have forgotten MP2 ever existed.  I find NOTHING that
will make
the conversion from MP2 to WAV.  I have over 100 hrs on the net looking!

Should anybody wish to play, sing out - will send the apps.  I cannot play
MPanything
using Ulli's routines & have given up trying to find out why.  I've returned
my system
to OEM Win95a except for the upgraded MediaPlayer v6.4
TomR.


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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi Russell:

Sorry I hadn't written sooner !  I was laid out and
sick with a temperature & fever the past few days.
Got mild sunstroke..  Well Rose wanted to go outside
and do stuff and I'm saying it's a bit warm, up to
106 degrees outside.  She says it'll be fine we'll
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Well I shoulda known it was bad heat cause we passed
the public park and there were zero (0) people out
anywheres doing anything..  Anyways Dad says Stay
Inside drink lots of fluids and get some rest soooo
after snoozzzing for better then 36 hours I'm better.
:)  I see I gotta TON o' Email so lemee at it.

--- Russell Hayward <russ@softhome.net> wrote:
> List Member "Russell Hayward" <russ@softhome.net>
> wrote:
>=20
> Hi David,
>=20
> > Ready for the weekend ?  :)
>=20
> As ready as I'll ever be.
> Sorry, I don't understand how drawing in a dialog
> stops you creating a child
> window in it, could you explain?
>=20
>=20
> How to create a button with CreateWindow:
>=20
> DIALOG #1,100,100,300,300,"Dialog",WS_SYSMENU
>   ~CreateWindow("Button","Hello",WS_CHILD |
> WS_VISIBLE |
>
BS_PUSHBUTTON,10,10,100,100,DLG(1),222,_INSTANCE,NULL)
> 'On one line
>   ' Is the same as
>   '  BUTTON "Hello",222,10,10,100,100
> ENDDIALOG
>=20
> A bit longer, but more flexible.

* Well, my main concern now is being able to have
  a menu, and I need to have something that can
  remove or MOVE any of the buttons at will just for
  the MyRCS generator.
>=20
> It's your choice, depends on what you are trying to
> do.
>=20
> Good luck,

* Thanks !  :)

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hey Russell:
>=20
> Here's an example of creating a menu in a dialog:
>=20
> DIALOG #1,100,100,300,300,"Dialog",WS_SYSMENU
> ENDDIALOG
>=20
> hMenu =3D CreateMenu()
> hPopup =3D CreatePopupMenu()
>=20
> ' Create the pop-up menu items
> ~AppendMenu(hPopup, MF_STRING, 10,"&New")
> ~AppendMenu(hPopup, MF_STRING, 11,"&Save")
> ~AppendMenu(hPopup, MF_STRING, 12,"&Save As")
>=20
> ~AppendMenu(hmenu, MF_POPUP,hPopup,"&File")
>=20
> ~SetMenu(DLG(1),hMenu)
>=20
> SHOWDIALOG #1
> REPEAT
>   SLEEP
> UNTIL MENU(1)=3D4
> CLOSEDIALOG #1

* Huum..  I see that the more I stick with standard
  non "~" commands, it's going to slip me up if I do
  really complex or confusing stuff later.

* The  ~AppendMenu  is more forgiving it seems then
  just MENU .
>=20
> We've been at this stage before, have you seen
> Tabbing.gfw? :-)
>=20
> I've never known GetFocus not to work, what's
> happening?

* I was using a combination of WINDOW and DIALOG and
  I see now it can all be done in one-window.

  Next step is to figure out how to REMOVE or MOVE
  any of the buttons in there.

  Thanks for the info so far !  I didn't think it'd
  be so hard to make a MyRCS Generator cause I already
  got the string parser in/out and clipboard ready to
  receive and send.

Sincerely,
David W.


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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi Russell:
* Reading Below I see you have Answered =3DALL=3D
  my questions !  Thanks bunchees !  I'll try to
finish
  up MyRCS this week now that I'm armed with every-
  thing I need.

* I =3DREALLY=3D do appreciate your help on this !
  (How dju get so smart anyways??)  :)

>=20
> You have to remember they are just windows (created
> with CreateWindow), you
> can do anything to them that you can do to your main
> window:
>=20
> ' Move
> ~MoveWindow(DLGITEM(0,ID),50,50,400,400,1)
>=20
> ' Delete
> ~DestroyWindow(DLGITEM(0,ID))

Question, won't GetFocus() shift out of alignment
when I have one of these virtual "windows" selected
instead of the main or Parent one ?

Sincerely,
David

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hey Tom:

--- Tom Record=20
> Thanks, but don't waste time on it, David.  Looks
> like one can easily have
> $7,000 or
> more invested & for a $0 return, I don't think so.=20
> I was just grasping at
> straws.
> TomR.

Ouch..  That bad ?  Tom, maybe you chosen too
ambitious
a project ?  Dad says that my dream of making a RPG
Generator is a =3DBIG=3D one and maybe I should start
smaller first ?  :)

There's nothing so frustrating as working on a very
difficult project and not having anything to show for
it after several days or weeks of work on it..

It's more rewarding to work on something you know you
can tackle, yet is still useful, and have that great
feeling a few days after you complete it of
accomplishment !

Gentle Thought.

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:

--- Tom Record
> I've had a look at GFA(32)... you guys are welcome
> to it.  It's time for a major
> housecleaning on this computer.  Things are
> beginning to change on me without my
> being able to see why.  Ulli's & David's player
> routines no longer work at all &
> just a couple of days ago, I had all of that
> working.


>Pop!<  Huh ?  Someone mentioned my
name.  :)  Okay Tom, is it my playing a MIDI not
working or that MP3 Example ?  I should be able to
send you fresh stuff so that MP3 will play again.

Sincerely,
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hey John & Tom:

> > It's time for a major housecleaning on this
> computer.
>=20
> Mine needs some work also. Need to upgrade as well.
> Faster CPU, more hard
> drive space, 56k modem, ram, etc. My son gave me a
> 128bit sound card and a
> 3D graphics card a while back, very nice!
>=20

You two might be interested in a program called
System mechanic.  I downloaded it recently from

http://www.tucows.com

and it's a good program !  Does alla kindsa things
to clean-up your computer.  I got back a little over
100 megs of HD space with it !  Neat stuff !  :)

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
MP3, David
I have problems.  I can make MP2 far easier than MP3, but it really doesn't
seem to
matter - all bomb on here.  I *did* have half of Win98's Media Player on
here, but
that didn't help.  I had to go into DOS & get rid of it because some is held=
 in=20
"service" by Windows from the moment it boots.  I thot I'd deleted your
player, but
discovered another copy in a different dir.  It's very similar to Ulli's
last one.

When I split an MPG, I get MP2 for sound.  Can convert WAV to MP2, but not
the other
way.  I'm almost considering trying VOC or AU (or whatever the hell it is).
<G>
TomR.


At 09:40 AM 24/07/00 -0700, you wrote:
>List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>--- Tom Record
>> I've had a look at GFA(32)... you guys are welcome
>> to it.  It's time for a major
>> housecleaning on this computer.  Things are
>> beginning to change on me without my
>> being able to see why.  Ulli's & David's player
>> routines no longer work at all &
>> just a couple of days ago, I had all of that
>> working.
>
>
>>Pop!<  Huh ?  Someone mentioned my
>name.  :)  Okay Tom, is it my playing a MIDI not
>working or that MP3 Example ?  I should be able to
>send you fresh stuff so that MP3 will play again.
>
>Sincerely,
>David W.
>
>
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Not far wrong, David.
MP2/MP3 is sittin at the curb, idling it's motor.  I understand Ulli's
routines work
fine in 32-bit & even 16-bit on *his* computer.  Anything like/'em I've
tried on this
one have failed.

I'm cleaning up the effects using *.jpg for the screensavers again.  MUCH=
 more=20
successful!
<G>
TomR.


At 09:36 AM 24/07/00 -0700, you wrote:
>List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Hey Tom:
>
>--- Tom Record=20
>> Thanks, but don't waste time on it, David.  Looks
>> like one can easily have
>> $7,000 or
>> more invested & for a $0 return, I don't think so.=20
>> I was just grasping at
>> straws.
>> TomR.
>
>Ouch..  That bad ?  Tom, maybe you chosen too
>ambitious
>a project ?  Dad says that my dream of making a RPG
>Generator is a =3DBIG=3D one and maybe I should start
>smaller first ?  :)
>
>There's nothing so frustrating as working on a very
>difficult project and not having anything to show for
>it after several days or weeks of work on it..
>
>It's more rewarding to work on something you know you
>can tackle, yet is still useful, and have that great
>feeling a few days after you complete it of
>accomplishment !
>
>Gentle Thought.
>
>Sincerely,
>David W.
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
David
If it's one of those duplicate killers, I can't use it.  I have so many
projects that
begin from the same point that I keep all until something either goes to
hell on me
or I finally get it right.  I keep the extras so I can compare notes when
something
just doesn't make sense or won't fall into line.
<G>
TomR.



At 09:42 AM 24/07/00 -0700, you wrote:
>List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Hey John & Tom:
>
>> > It's time for a major housecleaning on this
>> computer.
>>=20
>> Mine needs some work also. Need to upgrade as well.
>> Faster CPU, more hard
>> drive space, 56k modem, ram, etc. My son gave me a
>> 128bit sound card and a
>> 3D graphics card a while back, very nice!
>>=20
>
>You two might be interested in a program called
>System mechanic.  I downloaded it recently from
>
>http://www.tucows.com
>
>and it's a good program !  Does alla kindsa things
>to clean-up your computer.  I got back a little over
>100 megs of HD space with it !  Neat stuff !  :)
>
>Sincerely,
>David W.
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
I owe!  Mostly Ulli, somewhat David, then a tad to all.  I owe an apology for my
ignorance.  I finally looked into an mci.hlp I have stashed.  It said I needed
certain drivers in my SYSTEM.INI.

For any given device type, there might be several MCI drivers that share the
command set but operate on different data formats. For example, the
animation device type might include several MCI drivers that use the same
command set but play different types of animation files. To uniquely
identify a MCI driver, MCI uses device names.
Device names are identified in the [mci] section of the SYSTEM.INI file. The
[mci] section of SYSTEM.INI identifies all MCI drivers to Windows. The
following example shows a typical [mci] section:

[mci]

waveaudio=mciwave.drv
sequencer=mciseq.drv
MMMovie=mcimmp.drv
cdaudio=mcicda.drv

My modified system.ini:

[mci]
cdaudio=mcicda.drv
sequencer=mciseq.drv
waveaudio=mciwave.drv
avivideo=mciavi.drv
videodisc=mcipionr.drv
vcr=mcivisca.drv
; MPEGVIDEO=SOFTPEG.DRV        OEM on this system, didn't work!
; MPEGVIDEOCD=SOFTPEG.DRV CDI  OEM on this system, didn't work!
MMMovie=mcimmp.drv   Spent 2 hrs downloading for this ONE 20K file! Added entry.
cdaudio=mcicda.drv   Added entry, file was already in the system dir.
LiveAudioMetafile=mcilau.dll
LiveAudioFile=mcilma.dll
MPEGVideo2=mciqtz.drv

Guess what... the routines STILL don't play MP2 or MP3 unless the extension
is changed
to MPG.  Even then, Ulli's check MCI routine reports it plays video using
aaplay.dll!
*That* is for animations of another breed, Autodesk!  What the hell - it
works!  The
damned thing even plays the flics!

I'm guessing that the only thing I needed was the removal of the OEM
entries.  When
I went online with BlueLight (a free ISP), I got the daylights startled outa
me by
the darned thing playing it's MPG ad in the sign-on screen.  It had NEVER
done that
before & the sudden loud music nearly made me wet my drawers.

Ok... I can make MPG flics, but without sound.  I don't have any way to put
the sound 
into'em.  Even if I did, I get left w/ a window to close when it's finished.
To be
sure, this is a simple window the size of the flic + captionbar.  I suppose
a call to
TaskMgr could close it, but what a nuisence.

<G>
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List Member "Russell Hayward" <russ@softhome.net> wrote:

Hi David,

> * I =REALLY= do appreciate your help on this !
>   (How dju get so smart anyways??)  :)

Reading the SDK far too many times!

> Question, won't GetFocus() shift out of alignment
> when I have one of these virtual "windows" selected
> instead of the main or Parent one ?

GetFocus() will return the handle of the window that has the keyboard focus.
If another application's window has the focus it will return 0.

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List Member "Russell Hayward" <russ@softhome.net> wrote:

Hi David,

> > Here's an example of creating a menu in a dialog:
> >
> > DIALOG #1,100,100,300,300,"Dialog",WS_SYSMENU
> > ENDDIALOG
> >
> > hMenu = CreateMenu()
> > hPopup = CreatePopupMenu()
> >
> > ' Create the pop-up menu items
> > ~AppendMenu(hPopup, MF_STRING, 10,"&New")
> > ~AppendMenu(hPopup, MF_STRING, 11,"&Save")
> > ~AppendMenu(hPopup, MF_STRING, 12,"&Save As")
> >
> > ~AppendMenu(hmenu, MF_POPUP,hPopup,"&File")
> >
> > ~SetMenu(DLG(1),hMenu)
>
> * Huum..  I see that the more I stick with standard
>   non "~" commands, it's going to slip me up if I do
>   really complex or confusing stuff later.

The "~" commands, as you call them, are a lot more standard than GFA
commands. Whatever language you use on Windows, they will be the same. By
the way ~ just means VOID, ignore result, all API commands are functions and
GFA Basic requires you to void a return value if you aren't interested in
it, you could do:

Dummy%=AppendMenu(..

But it is wasteful.

> * The  ~AppendMenu  is more forgiving it seems then
>   just MENU .

MENU is just a wrapper for Window's menu functions, it would call AppendMenu
or InsertMenu internally.

>   Next step is to figure out how to REMOVE or MOVE
>   any of the buttons in there.

DestroyWindow and MoveWindow or SetWindowPos, here's a small example:

OPENW #1
EDITTEXT "Type!",100,10,10,200,25,WS_BORDER
SENDMESSAGE DLGITEM(-1,100),EM_SETSEL,0,MAKELONG(-1,0)
~SetFocus(DLGITEM(-1,100))
REPEAT
  SLEEP
  ~SetWindowPos(DLGITEM(-1,100),0,MOUSEX,MOUSEY,0,0,SWP_NOZORDER |
SWP_NOSIZE) ' On one line
UNTIL MENU(1)=4
CLOSEW #1

HTH,
Russell Hayward

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My, My, you old fraud! I thought you were through with this. Bless your
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> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> I owe!  Mostly Ulli, somewhat David, then a tad to all.  I owe an apology
for my
> ignorance.  I finally looked into an mci.hlp I have stashed.  It said I
needed
> certain drivers in my SYSTEM.INI.
>
> For any given device type, there might be several MCI drivers that share
the
> command set but operate on different data formats. For example, the
> animation device type might include several MCI drivers that use the same
> command set but play different types of animation files. To uniquely
> identify a MCI driver, MCI uses device names.
> Device names are identified in the [mci] section of the SYSTEM.INI file.
The
> [mci] section of SYSTEM.INI identifies all MCI drivers to Windows. The
> following example shows a typical [mci] section:
>
> [mci]
>
> waveaudio=mciwave.drv
> sequencer=mciseq.drv
> MMMovie=mcimmp.drv
> cdaudio=mcicda.drv
>
> My modified system.ini:
>
> [mci]
> cdaudio=mcicda.drv
> sequencer=mciseq.drv
> waveaudio=mciwave.drv
> avivideo=mciavi.drv
> videodisc=mcipionr.drv
> vcr=mcivisca.drv
> ; MPEGVIDEO=SOFTPEG.DRV        OEM on this system, didn't work!
> ; MPEGVIDEOCD=SOFTPEG.DRV CDI  OEM on this system, didn't work!
> MMMovie=mcimmp.drv   Spent 2 hrs downloading for this ONE 20K file! Added
entry.
> cdaudio=mcicda.drv   Added entry, file was already in the system dir.
> LiveAudioMetafile=mcilau.dll
> LiveAudioFile=mcilma.dll
> MPEGVideo2=mciqtz.drv
>
> Guess what... the routines STILL don't play MP2 or MP3 unless the
extension
> is changed
> to MPG.  Even then, Ulli's check MCI routine reports it plays video using
> aaplay.dll!
> *That* is for animations of another breed, Autodesk!  What the hell - it
> works!  The
> damned thing even plays the flics!
>
> I'm guessing that the only thing I needed was the removal of the OEM
> entries.  When
> I went online with BlueLight (a free ISP), I got the daylights startled
outa
> me by
> the darned thing playing it's MPG ad in the sign-on screen.  It had NEVER
> done that
> before & the sudden loud music nearly made me wet my drawers.
>
> Ok... I can make MPG flics, but without sound.  I don't have any way to
put
> the sound
> into'em.  Even if I did, I get left w/ a window to close when it's
finished.
> To be
> sure, this is a simple window the size of the flic + captionbar.  I
suppose
> a call to
> TaskMgr could close it, but what a nuisence.
>
> <G>
> TomR.
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi Tom:

--- Tom Record
> Not far wrong, David.

Well take a break sometimes..  :)

It helps if you've got more then one project
on the burner so when one isn't cooking well RIGHT
then the others you can check on them.

I still poke a bit in QBasic for my laptop cause my
laptop doesn't like how slow GFA is at ALL !  :/

If you've got other language projects you were working
on perhaps it's easier now to finish those ?

Sincerely,
David

_____________________________________________________________
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--- Tom Record
<tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> MP2/MP3 is sittin at the curb, idling it's motor.  I
> understand Ulli's
> routines work
> fine in 32-bit & even 16-bit on *his* computer.=20
> Anything like/'em I've
> tried on this
> one have failed.
>=20
> I'm cleaning up the effects using *.jpg for the
> screensavers again.  MUCH more=20
> successful!
> <G>
> TomR.
>=20
>=20
> At 09:36 AM 24/07/00 -0700, you wrote:
> >List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >Hey Tom:
> >
> >--- Tom Record=20
> >> Thanks, but don't waste time on it, David.  Looks
> >> like one can easily have
> >> $7,000 or
> >> more invested & for a $0 return, I don't think
> so.=20
> >> I was just grasping at
> >> straws.
> >> TomR.
> >
> >Ouch..  That bad ?  Tom, maybe you chosen too
> >ambitious
> >a project ?  Dad says that my dream of making a RPG
> >Generator is a =3DBIG=3D one and maybe I should start
> >smaller first ?  :)
> >
> >There's nothing so frustrating as working on a very
> >difficult project and not having anything to show
> for
> >it after several days or weeks of work on it..
> >
> >It's more rewarding to work on something you know
> you
> >can tackle, yet is still useful, and have that
> great
> >feeling a few days after you complete it of
> >accomplishment !
> >
> >Gentle Thought.
> >
> >Sincerely,
> >David W.
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Hi Tom:

Here is one consideration.
Perhaps Mp2 and Mp3 files share quite a-bit in
common except for complexity ?

Perhaps you could touch up a Mp2 file to READ as a
Mp3 file and it's no problem works okay cause it's
easier to read then Mp3 and then convert your fake
"mp3" to whatever audio format you want ?

Just A Thought

Sincerely,
David

--- Tom Record
<tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> MP3, David
> I have problems.  I can make MP2 far easier than
> MP3, but it really doesn't
> seem to
> matter - all bomb on here.  I *did* have half of
> Win98's Media Player on
> here, but
> that didn't help.  I had to go into DOS & get rid of
> it because some is held in=20
> "service" by Windows from the moment it boots.  I
> thot I'd deleted your
> player, but
> discovered another copy in a different dir.  It's
> very similar to Ulli's
> last one.
>=20
> When I split an MPG, I get MP2 for sound.  Can
> convert WAV to MP2, but not
> the other
> way.  I'm almost considering trying VOC or AU (or
> whatever the hell it is).
> <G>
> TomR.
>=20
>=20
> At 09:40 AM 24/07/00 -0700, you wrote:
> >List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >--- Tom Record
> >> I've had a look at GFA(32)... you guys are
> welcome
> >> to it.  It's time for a major
> >> housecleaning on this computer.  Things are
> >> beginning to change on me without my
> >> being able to see why.  Ulli's & David's player
> >> routines no longer work at all &
> >> just a couple of days ago, I had all of that
> >> working.
> >
> >
> >>Pop!<  Huh ?  Someone mentioned my
> >name.  :)  Okay Tom, is it my playing a MIDI not
> >working or that MP3 Example ?  I should be able to
> >send you fresh stuff so that MP3 will play again.
> >
> >Sincerely,
> >David W.
> >
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Hi Tom:

Well it does zap dupes but it all so cleans up your
registry and stuff.  It's the best computer cleaner
I've seen so far and I've been thru bunchees cause I
am one MESSY programmer !  :)

It gives you ops on what you wanting and if not to
zap dupes just say no and it says ok.

Sincerely,
David

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> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> David
> If it's one of those duplicate killers, I can't use
> it.  I have so many
> projects that
> begin from the same point that I keep all until
> something either goes to
> hell on me
> or I finally get it right.  I keep the extras so I
> can compare notes when
> something
> just doesn't make sense or won't fall into line.
> <G>
> TomR.
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>=20
>=20
> At 09:42 AM 24/07/00 -0700, you wrote:
> >List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >Hey John & Tom:
> >
> >> > It's time for a major housecleaning on this
> >> computer.
> >>=20
> >> Mine needs some work also. Need to upgrade as
> well.
> >> Faster CPU, more hard
> >> drive space, 56k modem, ram, etc. My son gave me
> a
> >> 128bit sound card and a
> >> 3D graphics card a while back, very nice!
> >>=20
> >
> >You two might be interested in a program called
> >System mechanic.  I downloaded it recently from
> >
> >http://www.tucows.com
> >
> >and it's a good program !  Does alla kindsa things
> >to clean-up your computer.  I got back a little
> over
> >100 megs of HD space with it !  Neat stuff !  :)
> >
> >Sincerely,
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Hey Tom:

--- Tom Record
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> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> I owe!  Mostly Ulli, somewhat David, then a tad to

* Ooooh !!  Credit for me !  Big Thanks !  :)
  (more below)

> all.  I owe an apology for my
> ignorance.  I finally looked into an mci.hlp I have
> stashed.  It said I needed
> certain drivers in my SYSTEM.INI.

* Tom, here is a listing of mine, mine plays well all
  those neat MP3s, AVIs, MOVs, MIDs, WAVs, and those
  weird but super-crunched funny Wav/Mp3 files.
  Also RealAudio/Video but it stinks for speed and
  size next to SC Wav/MP3 from GoldWave sooooooo
  I keep it only to play RA if I don't have anything
  else.  Guess I need to download RealProducer or
  something to convert it to WAV and then to SuperWav.
  :)

  Check-out some of those new WAV audio enhancers
  from TuCows to get best quality for smallest size !

[mci]
waveaudio=3Dmciwave.drv
sequencer=3Dmciseq.drv
cdaudio=3Dmcicda.drv
avivideo=3Dmciavi.drv
videodisc=3Dmcipionr.drv
vcr=3Dmcivisca.drv
MPEGVideo=3Dmciqtz.drv
MPEGVideo2=3Dmciqtz.drv

Aaaand I can send you any of these if you like.  :)

Hope This Helps !

Sincerely,
David

> Guess what... the routines STILL don't play MP2 or
> MP3 unless the extension
> is changed
> to MPG.  Even then, Ulli's check MCI routine reports
> it plays video using
> aaplay.dll!
> *That* is for animations of another breed, Autodesk!
>  What the hell - it
> works!  The
> damned thing even plays the flics!
>=20
> I'm guessing that the only thing I needed was the
> removal of the OEM
> entries.  When
> I went online with BlueLight (a free ISP), I got the
> daylights startled outa
> me by
> the darned thing playing it's MPG ad in the sign-on
> screen.  It had NEVER
> done that
> before & the sudden loud music nearly made me wet my
> drawers.
>=20
> Ok... I can make MPG flics, but without sound.  I
> don't have any way to put
> the sound=20
> into'em.  Even if I did, I get left w/ a window to
> close when it's finished.
> To be
> sure, this is a simple window the size of the flic +
> captionbar.  I suppose
> a call to
> TaskMgr could close it, but what a nuisence.
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> Hi David,
>=20
> > * I =3DREALLY=3D do appreciate your help on this !
> >   (How dju get so smart anyways??)  :)
>=20
> Reading the SDK far too many times!
>=20
> > Question, won't GetFocus() shift out of alignment
> > when I have one of these virtual "windows"
> selected
> > instead of the main or Parent one ?
>=20
> GetFocus() will return the handle of the window that
> has the keyboard focus.
> If another application's window has the focus it
> will return 0.

* AH !  This is interesting, so you saying that
  GetFocus() =3D 0 if a non-GFA thingie is selected,
  which is good, but how about if it is not selected
  but some-other GFA thingie that's running .EXE ?
  Will that return 0 also since it's not part of the
  TRUE main program that's looking at it ?

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> Hi David,
>=20
> > > Here's an example of creating a menu in a
> dialog:
> > >
> > > DIALOG #1,100,100,300,300,"Dialog",WS_SYSMENU
> > > ENDDIALOG
> > >
> > > hMenu =3D CreateMenu()
> > > hPopup =3D CreatePopupMenu()
> > >
> > > ' Create the pop-up menu items
> > > ~AppendMenu(hPopup, MF_STRING, 10,"&New")
> > > ~AppendMenu(hPopup, MF_STRING, 11,"&Save")
> > > ~AppendMenu(hPopup, MF_STRING, 12,"&Save As")
> > >
> > > ~AppendMenu(hmenu, MF_POPUP,hPopup,"&File")
> > >
> > > ~SetMenu(DLG(1),hMenu)
> >
> > * Huum..  I see that the more I stick with
> standard
> >   non "~" commands, it's going to slip me up if I
> do
> >   really complex or confusing stuff later.
>=20
> The "~" commands, as you call them, are a lot more
> standard than GFA
> commands. Whatever language you use on Windows, they
> will be the same. By
> the way ~ just means VOID, ignore result, all API
> commands are functions and
> GFA Basic requires you to void a return value if you
> aren't interested in
> it, you could do:
>=20
> Dummy%=3DAppendMenu(..
>=20
> But it is wasteful.

* Yah I like less keystrokes per program
  all the time.  :)
>=20
> > * The  ~AppendMenu  is more forgiving it seems
> then
> >   just MENU .
>=20
> MENU is just a wrapper for Window's menu functions,
> it would call AppendMenu
> or InsertMenu internally.
>=20
> >   Next step is to figure out how to REMOVE or MOVE
> >   any of the buttons in there.
>=20
> DestroyWindow and MoveWindow or SetWindowPos, here's
> a small example:
>=20
> OPENW #1
> EDITTEXT "Type!",100,10,10,200,25,WS_BORDER
> SENDMESSAGE
> DLGITEM(-1,100),EM_SETSEL,0,MAKELONG(-1,0)
> ~SetFocus(DLGITEM(-1,100))
> REPEAT
>   SLEEP
> =20
>
~SetWindowPos(DLGITEM(-1,100),0,MOUSEX,MOUSEY,0,0,SWP_NOZORDER
> |
> SWP_NOSIZE) ' On one line
> UNTIL MENU(1)=3D4
> CLOSEW #1
>=20
> HTH,
> Russell Hayward

Russell,  SLEEP  is really screwball !  I can't get it
to work on my Dad's computer the same as mine
computer.
I use GETEVENT instead.  There is a difference right
where GETEVENT waits for a bit of time but SLEEP can
hang for good if you don't re-select where it came
from ?

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Yes, Russell, you are showing me how little I know! I love it!
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Hi David,

> * I =REALLY= do appreciate your help on this !
>   (How dju get so smart anyways??)  :)

Reading the SDK far too many times!

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Dale
Old KludgeMeister credo: Them as can, do... them as can't, figger it out &
teach others!

'course, it helps some when someone else (guess who) serves up my own
pork&beans & fried
taters every so often <G>.  As soon as I recognized the last gfanl, I knew
my string was
gonne get jerked really hard <G>.

This MP2/MP3/MPG thing has been gnawing away at my spirit a long time!  I
*still* have
to figure out how to run async so I can have sound _&_ pitchers at the same
time.  In
the native formats, the sound & image are interlaced in the file, so you
don't see or
hear any breaks... just a constant flow.  I'm NOT *that* smart!
<G>
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>List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
>My, My, you old fraud! I thought you were through with this. Bless your
>obstinate heart. We will all profit.
>dale
>
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>> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> I owe!  Mostly Ulli, somewhat David, then a tad to all.  I owe an apology
>for my
>> ignorance.  I finally looked into an mci.hlp I have stashed.  It said I
>needed
>> certain drivers in my SYSTEM.INI.
>>
>> For any given device type, there might be several MCI drivers that share
>the
>> command set but operate on different data formats. For example, the
>> animation device type might include several MCI drivers that use the same
>> command set but play different types of animation files. To uniquely
>> identify a MCI driver, MCI uses device names.
>> Device names are identified in the [mci] section of the SYSTEM.INI file.
>The
>> [mci] section of SYSTEM.INI identifies all MCI drivers to Windows. The
>> following example shows a typical [mci] section:
>>
>> [mci]
>>
>> waveaudio=mciwave.drv
>> sequencer=mciseq.drv
>> MMMovie=mcimmp.drv
>> cdaudio=mcicda.drv
>>
>> My modified system.ini:
>>
>> [mci]
>> cdaudio=mcicda.drv
>> sequencer=mciseq.drv
>> waveaudio=mciwave.drv
>> avivideo=mciavi.drv
>> videodisc=mcipionr.drv
>> vcr=mcivisca.drv
>> ; MPEGVIDEO=SOFTPEG.DRV        OEM on this system, didn't work!
>> ; MPEGVIDEOCD=SOFTPEG.DRV CDI  OEM on this system, didn't work!
>> MMMovie=mcimmp.drv   Spent 2 hrs downloading for this ONE 20K file! Added
>entry.
>> cdaudio=mcicda.drv   Added entry, file was already in the system dir.
>> LiveAudioMetafile=mcilau.dll
>> LiveAudioFile=mcilma.dll
>> MPEGVideo2=mciqtz.drv
>>
>> Guess what... the routines STILL don't play MP2 or MP3 unless the
>extension
>> is changed
>> to MPG.  Even then, Ulli's check MCI routine reports it plays video using
>> aaplay.dll!
>> *That* is for animations of another breed, Autodesk!  What the hell - it
>> works!  The
>> damned thing even plays the flics!
>>
>> I'm guessing that the only thing I needed was the removal of the OEM
>> entries.  When
>> I went online with BlueLight (a free ISP), I got the daylights startled
>outa
>> me by
>> the darned thing playing it's MPG ad in the sign-on screen.  It had NEVER
>> done that
>> before & the sudden loud music nearly made me wet my drawers.
>>
>> Ok... I can make MPG flics, but without sound.  I don't have any way to
>put
>> the sound
>> into'em.  Even if I did, I get left w/ a window to close when it's
>finished.
>> To be
>> sure, this is a simple window the size of the flic + captionbar.  I
>suppose
>> a call to
>> TaskMgr could close it, but what a nuisence.
>>
>> <G>
>> TomR.
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Ok, boys & girls.  4:00 in the morning here.  The following are
"functional"!  There
MUST be an event-control inside EVERY DO-LOOP.  It can be GETEVENT or SLEEP, but
SLEEP is a bit kinder to movement of the images.  I am playing w/ the
8-slide efx,
with images that are about 400x600 *.jpg, using Roland's minijpeg.dll.  The
*.lib
*might* be a tad faster loading images... I don't know yet.

Sound is interrupted during LOAD_IMAGE, then it's smooth.  Image movement, 1
pixel 
at a time, no longer takes only about 21 seconds from "appear" to
"disappear", tho.
It now takes 5 full cycles of the *.mpg minus 8 to 10 seconds to cross the
screen.
The file in use is 1 min 7.43 sec long.  Image movement is jerky, but at 1
pixel/move,
not really terrible.  *Perhaps* some other arrangement might be smoother.
Images
about 1/4 the size would probably load w/ only a slight hesitation in the
sound.  That
is, 200x300 or smaller.

You don't hear interruptions in the sound on image movement, but those
SLEEPs DO cause
jitter in the image movement.  GETEVENT seems to take longer, so jitter is
much more
apparent.  Altho aaplay.dll plays both, vidoe&sound & sound-only, it will do
so only
if the sound files are *.mpg!  It doesn't recognize *.mp2 or *.mp3!  I'm
thinking
that I have some more playing to do in system.ini to accomplish the needed
recognition.

Dale, I donno if anybody else considers my reaching this point a "profit" or
not, but
here it is, for all to use if they wish.  If anybody running Win95 tries it
& it works
OK, I'd like to have a copy of the [MCI] section of their system.ini so I
can track
down the changes *I* need.  I have MPEGAudio in my win.ini as what *.mp2 &
*.mp3 mean, 
but it doesn't seem enough.

It would appear easily enough done to cycle sound files, also.  Just
remember to shut
each one down before starting another.  One file thru-out needs only one at
the end.


start_sound(soundfile$,1000) <--- '0' = no sound, '1000' = max (what master
volume
                                         control is set to... doesn't effect
that.
DO
  GETEVENT <------------- SLEEP is a tad better behaving.
Here is where you perform whatever else the program is to do... like cycle
images...
LOOP UNTIL Whatever

This in the ending of the program:
stop_sound(soundfile$)

OR (Ulli & David came up w/ almost identical routines for this one...)

IF EXIST(file$)
  MCI "open " + file$ + " alias doit"
  MCI "play doit repeat" <------------ include 'repeat' & it does, don't, it
doesn't!
ENDIF

DO
  GETEVENT <------------- SLEEP is a tad better behaving.
Here is where you perform whatever else the program is to do... like cycle
images...
LOOP UNTIL Whatever

This in the ending of the program:
MCI "close all"

The soundtrack is 524K!  58 *.jpg take .99M.  Compiled, will be well over 1.5M.

End of report.
<G>
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List Member "Russell Hayward" <russ@softhome.net> wrote:

Hi David,

> * AH !  This is interesting, so you saying that
>   GetFocus() = 0 if a non-GFA thingie is selected,
>   which is good, but how about if it is not selected
>   but some-other GFA thingie that's running .EXE ?
>   Will that return 0 also since it's not part of the
>   TRUE main program that's looking at it ?

This might be a problem, it is the old 16-bit/32-bit changearoony. It seems
that any 16-bit program can read what window is focused if it is another
16-bit window, but not if it is in a 32-bit window. This causes problems for
what you are trying to use GetFocus for. The best way to keep track of
whether your application is active is to process WM_ACTIVATEAPP:

OPENW #1
CB WIN(1),WM_ACTIVATEAPP,ActivateAppProc
CLS GETNEAREST(255,0,0)
REPEAT
  SLEEP
UNTIL MENU(1)=4
CLOSEW #1
'
PROCEDURE ActivateAppProc(Win&,Mess&,wPar&,lPar%)
  IF wPar&
    CLS GETNEAREST(255,0,0)
  ELSE
    CLS GETNEAREST(255,255,255)
  ENDIF
RETURN

If you want to do it a similar way to how you did it before then this will
work:

ThisTask%=GetCurrentTask()
OPENW #1
SETTIMER 1,1,100
REPEAT
  SLEEP
  IF GetWindowTask(GetFocus())=ThisTask%
    CLS GETNEAREST(255,0,0)
  ELSE
    CLS GETNEAREST(255,255,255)
  ENDIF
UNTIL MENU(1)=4
KILLTIMER 1,1
CLOSEW #1

HTH,
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List Member "Russell Hayward" <russ@softhome.net> wrote:

Hi David,

> Russell,  SLEEP  is really screwball !  I can't get it
> to work on my Dad's computer the same as mine
> computer.
> I use GETEVENT instead.  There is a difference right
> where GETEVENT waits for a bit of time but SLEEP can
> hang for good if you don't re-select where it came
> from ?

I don't think there is a great deal of difference, I just read somewhere
that SLEEP was more efficient. I've never had any problems with SLEEP, but I
do tend to use CB instead of checking the message in the message loop, so it
doesn't really matter when it returns.

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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
HI Tom,
I knew you would figure it out. I also was quite sure you would not give up
on it. Hope we all get to see it.
dale

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From: "Tom Record" <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net>
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Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2000 2:30 AM
Subject: [gfabasic] concurrent MPG sound & images w/ MCI in GFA-W(16)


> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Ok, boys & girls.  4:00 in the morning here.  The following are
> "functional"!  There
> MUST be an event-control inside EVERY DO-LOOP.  It can be GETEVENT or
SLEEP, but
> SLEEP is a bit kinder to movement of the images.  I am playing w/ the
> 8-slide efx,
> with images that are about 400x600 *.jpg, using Roland's minijpeg.dll.
The
> *.lib
> *might* be a tad faster loading images... I don't know yet.
>
> Sound is interrupted during LOAD_IMAGE, then it's smooth.  Image movement,
1
> pixel
> at a time, no longer takes only about 21 seconds from "appear" to
> "disappear", tho.
> It now takes 5 full cycles of the *.mpg minus 8 to 10 seconds to cross the
> screen.
> The file in use is 1 min 7.43 sec long.  Image movement is jerky, but at 1
> pixel/move,
> not really terrible.  *Perhaps* some other arrangement might be smoother.
> Images
> about 1/4 the size would probably load w/ only a slight hesitation in the
> sound.  That
> is, 200x300 or smaller.
>
> You don't hear interruptions in the sound on image movement, but those
> SLEEPs DO cause
> jitter in the image movement.  GETEVENT seems to take longer, so jitter is
> much more
> apparent.  Altho aaplay.dll plays both, vidoe&sound & sound-only, it will
do
> so only
> if the sound files are *.mpg!  It doesn't recognize *.mp2 or *.mp3!  I'm
> thinking
> that I have some more playing to do in system.ini to accomplish the needed
> recognition.
>
> Dale, I donno if anybody else considers my reaching this point a "profit"
or
> not, but
> here it is, for all to use if they wish.  If anybody running Win95 tries
it
> & it works
> OK, I'd like to have a copy of the [MCI] section of their system.ini so I
> can track
> down the changes *I* need.  I have MPEGAudio in my win.ini as what *.mp2 &
> *.mp3 mean,
> but it doesn't seem enough.
>
> It would appear easily enough done to cycle sound files, also.  Just
> remember to shut
> each one down before starting another.  One file thru-out needs only one
at
> the end.
>
>
> start_sound(soundfile$,1000) <--- '0' = no sound, '1000' = max (what
master
> volume
>                                          control is set to... doesn't
effect
> that.
> DO
>   GETEVENT <------------- SLEEP is a tad better behaving.
> Here is where you perform whatever else the program is to do... like cycle
> images...
> LOOP UNTIL Whatever
>
> This in the ending of the program:
> stop_sound(soundfile$)
>
> OR (Ulli & David came up w/ almost identical routines for this one...)
>
> IF EXIST(file$)
>   MCI "open " + file$ + " alias doit"
>   MCI "play doit repeat" <------------ include 'repeat' & it does, don't,
it
> doesn't!
> ENDIF
>
> DO
>   GETEVENT <------------- SLEEP is a tad better behaving.
> Here is where you perform whatever else the program is to do... like cycle
> images...
> LOOP UNTIL Whatever
>
> This in the ending of the program:
> MCI "close all"
>
> The soundtrack is 524K!  58 *.jpg take .99M.  Compiled, will be well over
1.5M.
>
> End of report.
> <G>
> TomR.
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List Member ThomWalla@aol.com wrote:
Try this.

PROCEDURE display_summat(hWnd&)
  hdc& = GetDC(hWnd&)
  c$ = "Grrrrrrr"
  ~TextOut(hdc&,50,50,V:c$,8)
  ~ReleaseDC(hWnd&,hdc&)
RETURN

Replace the hWnd& with hdc& in line:  ~TextOut(hWnd&,50,50,V:c$,8) 
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List Member ThomWalla@aol.com wrote:
In a message dated 7/25/00 5:54:36 PM Central Daylight Time, 
adbryant@email.msn.com writes:

<< That's close. He has HwndMain& defined for the Window and not Hwnd&. >>

Quite true.  The call should be the same as the definition.  Actually, I 
tried it both ways before I replied and either works to get it to print.  He 
got the handle of the window (hdc&) but didn't use it to print the message.  
Wasn't sure where he wanted the message to go to so I left the rest of the 
code alone.
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After a week a week of going round in ever decreasing circles I feel a need
to drive to Beachy Head, stand on the top of the cliffs and throw all my GFA
books/disks over the cliff and let loose at them with a 12 bore!
Can anyone point me at a lump of text that would explain why I don't get
'Grrr' on the screen using the attachment (borrowed from Dale)?

Think I'll take the 12 bore to the GFA Manuals anyway - at least they'll
have served a purpose  that way, their shape and slippery cover means
they're useless as a door-stop.

Mike
I feel Visual C calling or even MASM!

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
You call for:
display_summat(hWndMain&)

PROCEDURE display_summat(hWnd&) /* nada
  hdc& = GetDC(hWnd&)
  c$ = "Grrrrrrr"
  ~TextOut(hWnd&,50,50,V:c$,8)
  ~ReleaseDC(hWnd&,hdc&)
RETURN


PROCEDURE display_summat(hWnd&) /* surprise
  hdc& = GetDC(hWndMain&)
  c$ = "Grrrrrrr"
  ~TextOut(hdc&,50,50,V:c$,8)
  ~ReleaseDC(hWnd&,hdc&)
RETURN

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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
That's close. He has HwndMain& defined for the Window and not Hwnd&.

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> List Member ThomWalla@aol.com wrote:
> Try this.
> 
> PROCEDURE display_summat(hWnd&)
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>   c$ = "Grrrrrrr"
>   ~TextOut(hdc&,50,50,V:c$,8)
>   ~ReleaseDC(hWnd&,hdc&)
> RETURN
> 
> Replace the hWnd& with hdc& in line:  ~TextOut(hWnd&,50,50,V:c$,8) 
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You got it Tom.
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> List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> You call for:
> display_summat(hWndMain&)
>
> PROCEDURE display_summat(hWnd&) /* nada
>   hdc& = GetDC(hWnd&)
>   c$ = "Grrrrrrr"
>   ~TextOut(hWnd&,50,50,V:c$,8)
>   ~ReleaseDC(hWnd&,hdc&)
> RETURN
>
>
> PROCEDURE display_summat(hWnd&) /* surprise
>   hdc& = GetDC(hWndMain&)
>   c$ = "Grrrrrrr"
>   ~TextOut(hdc&,50,50,V:c$,8)
>   ~ReleaseDC(hWnd&,hdc&)
> RETURN
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi Mike:

--- Mike Fooks <Mick.Fooks@btinternet.com> wrote:
> After a week a week of going round in ever
> decreasing circles I feel a need
> to drive to Beachy Head, stand on the top of the
> cliffs and throw all my GFA
> books/disks over the cliff and let loose at them
> with a 12 bore!
> Can anyone point me at a lump of text that would
> explain why I don't get
> 'Grrr' on the screen using the attachment (borrowed
> from Dale)?
>=20
> Think I'll take the 12 bore to the GFA Manuals
> anyway - at least they'll
> have served a purpose  that way, their shape and
> slippery cover means
> they're useless as a door-stop.
>=20
> Mike
> I feel Visual C calling or even MASM!
>=20

Looks like complex stuff.  Are you just wanting to
have "Grrrr" in a text window or maybe have GFA
take-over the keyboard and type it for you or what ?

Gotta know this afore we can help ya.  :)

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If anybody *is* interested, let me know... otherwise, I'll stop wasting time
sending
progress reports!
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hey Tom !

We know you're out there..

Now you knowing how I feel sometimes I working really
really hard !  :q  on something and don't even know
if other guys really interested or not like my
Filebox okay.  Lemme know if you want a
Tangible Certificate and I'll send you one.  :)

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Keep them coming, Tom.

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I know my presence is known, David.  I just yhot more than Dale, me & Ulli=
 were
interested in adding MPG/MP2/MP3 capabilities to GFA-W(16).  I guess not, so=
 I
won't tell'em how to convert formats, etc.

For *you*... I thot mplayer2.exe would play *.ra, *.ram, & *.rm, but it
seems I was=20
wrong.  Something else I have on here does, but I don't remember now what. =
 I'll
keep looking for you.
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>Now you knowing how I feel sometimes I working really
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>if other guys really interested or not like my
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>Tangible Certificate and I'll send you one.  :)
>
>Sincerely,
>David
> _________________________________
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>
>
>--- Tom Record=20
>> If anybody *is* interested, let me know...
>> otherwise, I'll stop wasting time
>> sending
>> progress reports!
>> TomR.
>
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Hey Tom:

--- Tom Record 
> I know my presence is known, David.  I just yhot
> more than Dale, me & Ulli were
> interested in adding MPG/MP2/MP3 capabilities to
> GFA-W(16).  I guess not, so I
> won't tell'em how to convert formats, etc.
> 
> For *you*... I thot mplayer2.exe would play *.ra,
> *.ram, & *.rm, but it
> seems I was 
> wrong.  Something else I have on here does, but I
> don't remember now what.  I'll
> keep looking for you.
> <G>
> TomR.

Don't balk out on everyone else they're just busy
BIZZY like most of us working on their own little
pipe-dreams.  :)

Tom, RealAudio is their own little bracket.  It's 100%
not written by Microsoft at all.  It's nagware to the
teeth too which is why I'm none too fond of 'em..
I'm sure they'd =LOVE= to be common use on Win2000.
Let's hope not.

The Goldwave creation of a combo Mp3 & .WAV to make
a .WAV extension 16-bit audio is VERY compressed and
uses MUCH less computer time to play then a true
RealAudio file.
I'm fine & happy with that.  I'm only sticking with
RealAudio cause a lot of good folks out on the website
use it.  If I could convert a .RA to a .WAV or a .RM
to a .MPG, I'd like that.  Even Mac's .MOV player is
a bit nagware too and very inflexible for a lot of
things I'd want it for..  If I could convert it all to
.MPG & .Mp3 or better yet that Mp3/Wav thing that'd
be great.

Sooo I'll tell you lot what I been up to.

Frustration and then some ^ 2 !  I think I finally
decided to doodle my own "custom" dialog controls for
the MyRCS builder.  In order to add/delete/move a
control as well as pick out nano-instant arrow key
movements anywhere at anytime is getting to be very
difficult with so many sub "windows" ..  You have to
write interrupt routines to nip out those special
CTRL-Keys to adjust a button on the fly anywhere and
to manipulate and shift its contents even if its
not focused !  Aieee !!

What I wanna know now cause I know I seen it somewhere
is how to get the # of pixels across in a string.
With this, I'll go to finish MyRCS making use of
custom "dialog-controls" that are doodled and look
zactly like the Real 98 thing.

TEXT DLogContH(I)+(DlogContX(I)\2)-(TextPixels(
DLogText$(I))\2,DLogContV(I),DLogText$(I)

^ This is =MUCH= easier for me to manage rather then
  doing keyboard interrupts & stuff cause when you in
  a real dialog window or a single field all you key
  and mouse stuff shifts all cattywompus.  :/

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Anyone know what happened to the Eckhard Renner GFA pages? My link does not
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Dale
Maybe somebody finally pulled the plug on it.  When I first found it 3 yrs
ago, it
hadn't been updated in more than a year.
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Maybe so. Sorry to see him go as he was one of the first.  I notice that my
pages are still on CIS though I left there years ago.
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> <G>
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
UPDATE - 07/28/2000 -16BITAPI page
*
JPGVIEW16.ZIP includes new .dll
*
by Eberhard Funck
* 
Another great contribution by Eberhard


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List Member "John Findlay" <John.Findlay@Byte-it.net> wrote:
> List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> UPDATE - 07/28/2000 -16BITAPI page

> JPGVIEW16.ZIP includes new .dll

Ya-all,

This is a very fast jpeg loader using 'ijl11.dll', also it'll save a DIB as
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Greets Gang:

Well I have been fighting tooth and nail for the
interface to MyRCS and have a bit now.  The .WAV
player for some awful reason won't play need to figure
that out, but the interface is all there.  Use arrow
keys, TAB, SPACEBAR, PGUP, END, all kindsa keys and
stuff to navigate and try it around.  No system yet !
I'm still getting the interface finished.

http://www.geocities.com/dw817/product/myrcs.zip

Notice new dithering techniques I'm trying for
display and fonts !  That's all from here !
Enjoy !

Sincerely,
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi Gang, okay I found the problem.
In my other stuff I was using PLAYSOUND for encrypted
.WAV files or I used this:

Z$ = MCI$("stop wav")
Z$ = MCI$("close wav")
Z$ = MCI$("open " + F$ + " alias wav")
Z$ = MCI$("cue wav")
Z$ = MCI$("play wav")

For un-encrypted .WAV files.

Which is better cause it played it in the background,
BUT by using  UNZIP.DLL  it LOCKS the file and I
cannot dabble with it period until it finishes
playing.
I have never used both file encryption and UNZIP.DLL
and .WAV in the same boat except in Fruity Jam, and
that's in debug mode where no encryption or file
removal takes place, I never tried it in FINAL mode..

Has any-one else run into problems with UNZIP.DLL and
MCI .WAV interaction ?

I'm gonna use PLAYSOUND but not gonna be happy about
it, specially when Scenario has a long fireball sound
as the whole screen gets crisped and everything's
gotta freeze for that sound.  :/

If any of you have some ideas on how to get MCI and
UNZIP.DLL to behave with one another I'd like to know
!

UNZIP.DLL apparently locks an UNZIPPED .WAV file
until it is finished playing.  If it's not zipped,
it works, if it's not .WAV it works.  If it's not
zapped until it's finished playing, it works.
In this I can tamper and thoroughly modify it right
after opening it unless all 4 cases are true !

1) It was UNZIPPED with unzip.DLL recently
   <1 (one) second ago

2) What was unzipped is or will become a .WAV file

3) Play it now

4) I want to erase or modify it midstream while it's
   playing.

Only if one of these are missing then I can tamper
it right after opening and it works 100% perfect.
But if all 4 are lit, it won't.  UNZIP grabs hold of
it and won't let it go until it's done playing !
It gives me a I/O error saying the file is in use and
cannot be touched, this leaves "ghost" tasks in the
list and after a short while I gotta reboot.  :/

Mind you, this DOES NOT OCCUR if it's a Mp3 or MID
file !  I can toss the bits in those to heck right
after MCI OPENing them, it's only .WAV and =ONLY= if
all =4= are lit.

Incidentally, this is ONLY .WAV files !  MIDIs or
Mp3s I can zap right after I MCI open them and even
tho they're gone or encrypted they play just fine.

ONLY .WAV is not playing this game right.
Any ideas ?

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Is there a reasonably simple method to hook into the soundboard controls to know
when a soundtrack has finished playing?  I can easily log run-time for each
sound
file & put it in a stringtable, but I *think* being able to monitor the
sound may
be easier.  Keeping tabs on what's playing & how long it plays is a bit complex.
<G>
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List Member Wolfgang Schindler <W.Schindler@josefstal.de> wrote:
Hi!

> List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> Anyone know what happened to the Eckhard Renner GFA pages?=20
sorry, no,

> My link does not work any more.

mine doesn' either, I just had a try.=20

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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
That is too bad. He was one of the first.
dale
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> List Member Wolfgang Schindler <W.Schindler@josefstal.de> wrote:
> Hi!
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> > List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
> > Anyone know what happened to the Eckhard Renner GFA pages?
> sorry, no,
>
> > My link does not work any more.
>
> mine doesn' either, I just had a try.
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Greets Tom:

If you're using MCI you can do:

A$ = MCI$("status music length")
B$ = MCI$("status music position")
IF A$ = B$ THEN PRINT "Music all done!"

Hope This Helps !

Sincerely,
David W.

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> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Is there a reasonably simple method to hook into the
> soundboard controls to know
> when a soundtrack has finished playing?  I can
> easily log run-time for each
> sound
> file & put it in a stringtable, but I *think* being
> able to monitor the
> sound may
> be easier.  Keeping tabs on what's playing & how
> long it plays is a bit complex.
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Thank you, David.  Will give it a whirl.
I'm having trouble concentrating right now... really tired.
<G>
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At 03:52 PM 01/08/00 -0700, you wrote:
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>Greets Tom:
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>If you're using MCI you can do:
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>Hope This Helps !
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>Sincerely,
>David W.
>
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi Tom:

--- Tom Record
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> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Thank you, David.  Will give it a whirl.
> I'm having trouble concentrating right now... really
> tired.
> <G>
> TomR.

Yah I know what you mean there they got new RPG
Generator called RPG Maker and I'll be deviled if I
can't find it anywhere on the internet or even
enough documentation to tell me what it's all about !
:/

It's hard for me concentrate when I can't get
my favorite toys all the time !  Maaan !  :)

Russell is giving me considerable help with the MyRCS
and debugging.  I should have a release not Friday
but next.  I'm doing some homework for some other
programmers too, my Dad, and one QBee-holic.

Mind you, it'll work but I won't be using it, I'm
getting very comfortable writing my own interface now
that I've gotta bit of artistic spunk to doodle them
in.

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
' Russell Hayward

FULLW #1
DLL #1,"USER"
  DECL WORD LoadImage(W,L,W,W,W,W)
ENDDLL
OPENW #1
file$ = "gfalogo.BMP" + CHR$(0)
bmp = @@LoadImage(0,V:file$,0,0,0,128 | 16)
'128=Loadrealsize  16 Loadfromfile
REPEAT
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UNTIL MOUSEK
FREEBMP bmp
FREEDLL 1
CLOSEW #1


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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Does anyone have John Findlay's Compuserve email address?

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Jayel@compuserve.com                          .>>>>> Lou

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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Thanks, you are a sweetie!
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hiya !

Me and Russ are going back and forth in Email and he
said he didn't like cause in GFA you can't locate
procedures and functions why he's programming
C++ .

Okay here's what I use, esp. for you keyboardites
out there !  :)

* Search for a Procedure *
[CTRL] [HOME] [ALT] E F

--> Optional, hit [ALT] C from here for OFF caps check
    if you do this, hit [ALT] N to go back to where
    you were.

Do this and you can type the whole lot of it lowercase
(So you don't tire your hand out with that SHIFT key)

Hit the letter "E" and (SPACE) and type out the
name of your procedure.

If it didn't come up some other quirk in your
proggy that has a "E {prodecure in it), just hit
that nice CTRL-L to LOOK (o)(o) for the next occurance
of it.  Chances are you'll find it quick smart !

To look for a FUNCTION, change that "E" (SPACE) to a
"N" (SPACE) and re-do the above !  :)

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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
GIFLOAD by John Findlay loads and displays .GIF graphics files. John
accomplishes this without a .DLL. Some people just know too much.<G>
Download GILFLOAD.ZIP form the web site below.
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Well what can we say Dale.

You do good work and you give every-one a chance to
share their source codes and sparkle a little.  :)

Thank you for being our host on this GFA Journey !

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
15 rippers can't get a track off a CD on here.

How does one set sndrec32.exe up to record what cdplayer.exe puts out?
How does one set sndrec32.exe up to record from the microphone?

sndrec32.exe NEVER hears anything... it records a blank, empty, soundless file.
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List Member Engelbert van Loock <Engelbert.v@n.loock.com> wrote:
> How does one set sndrec32.exe up to record what cdplayer.exe puts out?
> How does one set sndrec32.exe up to record from the microphone?

Use SNDVOL32.EXE from the Windows directory. In the options menu's
properties chose Record (... freely translated from an exotic Windows).
Then you can simply check the required input source. If you want to
create a shortcut, the command line must be "c:\windows\sndvol32.exe
/r".

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Greets Tom:

Dju try GoldWave to take that track out ?
GoldWave works on combination Playstation/Audio
media.  Very few rippers can do that.

Sincerely,
David W.

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> 15 rippers can't get a track off a CD on here.
> 
> How does one set sndrec32.exe up to record what
> cdplayer.exe puts out?
> How does one set sndrec32.exe up to record from the
> microphone?
> 
> sndrec32.exe NEVER hears anything... it records a
> blank, empty, soundless file.
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Hey Tom, this may be helpful to you and
anyone else.

I finally found a cache of good MIDI utilities.
Unfortunately, most of them make the actual MIDI
file bigger then the original with the exception of
one.

Midi TRIMMER.  Why is it a MIDI file has such a long
delay in the beginning and end, especially
Bladerunner ?

Well there's no reason right ??  Soo this trims it
makes the MIDI smaller too, starts on the first note
and ends on the last.  :)
[enclosed]

Enjoy !

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Mucho gracius, David.
<G>
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At 07:57 PM 07/08/00 -0700, you wrote:
>Hey Tom, this may be helpful to you and
>anyone else.
>
>I finally found a cache of good MIDI utilities.
>Unfortunately, most of them make the actual MIDI
>file bigger then the original with the exception of
>one.
>
>Midi TRIMMER.  Why is it a MIDI file has such a long
>delay in the beginning and end, especially
>Bladerunner ?
>
>Well there's no reason right ??  Soo this trims it
>makes the MIDI smaller too, starts on the first note
>and ends on the last.  :)
>[enclosed]
>
>Enjoy !
>
>Sincerely,
>David W.
>
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Will try!  Thanks, Engelbert.  Will keep you advised.
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At 11:23 PM 07/08/00 +0200, you wrote:
>List Member Engelbert van Loock <Engelbert.v@n.loock.com> wrote:
>> How does one set sndrec32.exe up to record what cdplayer.exe puts out?
>> How does one set sndrec32.exe up to record from the microphone?
>
>Use SNDVOL32.EXE from the Windows directory. In the options menu's
>properties chose Record (... freely translated from an exotic Windows).
>Then you can simply check the required input source. If you want to
>create a shortcut, the command line must be "c:\windows\sndvol32.exe
>/r".
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Yep... can't handle the job.
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At 03:24 PM 07/08/00 -0700, you wrote:
>List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Greets Tom:
>
>Dju try GoldWave to take that track out ?
>GoldWave works on combination Playstation/Audio
>media.  Very few rippers can do that.
>
>Sincerely,
>David W.
>
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>> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> 15 rippers can't get a track off a CD on here.
>> 
>> How does one set sndrec32.exe up to record what
>> cdplayer.exe puts out?
>> How does one set sndrec32.exe up to record from the
>> microphone?
>> 
>> sndrec32.exe NEVER hears anything... it records a
>> blank, empty, soundless file.
>> TomR.
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
No soap.  Records absolutely nothing.  Thanks, anyway.
TomR.

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Glad to help out, Tom !  :)

I've gotta MIDI cruncher too, but although it
crunches most MIDI files 10%, it adds about 3%
if you PKZIP it later compared to an un-crunched
PKZIPed MIDI.  :/

Sincerely,
David W.


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> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Mucho gracius, David.
> <G>
> TomR.
> 
> 
> At 07:57 PM 07/08/00 -0700, you wrote:
> >Hey Tom, this may be helpful to you and
> >anyone else.
> >
> >I finally found a cache of good MIDI utilities.
> >Unfortunately, most of them make the actual MIDI
> >file bigger then the original with the exception of
> >one.
> >
> >Midi TRIMMER.  Why is it a MIDI file has such a
> long
> >delay in the beginning and end, especially
> >Bladerunner ?
> >
> >Well there's no reason right ??  Soo this trims it
> >makes the MIDI smaller too, starts on the first
> note
> >and ends on the last.  :)
> >[enclosed]
> >
> >Enjoy !
> >
> >Sincerely,
> >David W.
> >
> >
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Really Tom ?

That's not good, this new hardway gizzymo I got
for the Playstation it plays compressed .SPR
native only to Playstation audio files, I was gonna
hook up a tape-recorder plug in the back of it
into the soundcard and use sndrec32.exe or
mplayer2.exe to record it..  Guess I'll need to poke
around and find a good audio recorder program
for Win98..

Sincerely,
David W.

--- Tom Record
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> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Yep... can't handle the job.
> <G>
> TomR.
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> 
> At 03:24 PM 07/08/00 -0700, you wrote:
> >List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> >
> >Dju try GoldWave to take that track out ?
> >GoldWave works on combination Playstation/Audio
> >media.  Very few rippers can do that.
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> >> 15 rippers can't get a track off a CD on here.
> >> 
> >> How does one set sndrec32.exe up to record what
> >> cdplayer.exe puts out?
> >> How does one set sndrec32.exe up to record from
> the
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> >> 
> >> sndrec32.exe NEVER hears anything... it records a
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List Member "Russell Hayward" <russ@softhome.net> wrote:
Hi Tom,

> How does one set sndrec32.exe up to record from the microphone?
>
> sndrec32.exe NEVER hears anything... it records a blank, empty, soundless
file.

Are you sure your microphone is working okay? Does it work with any other
sound recording program, such as GoldWave, or is it just a sndrec32 problem?

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Russ
Haven't tried w/ GoldWave.  Can't record the mike or using cdplayer.exe.  I
*thot*
that setting the volume to record either would allow making a *.wav from the
*.cda
file, but it plays OK w/o recording anything.  GoldWave can't rip the CD.
In fact,
I've downloaded some 32 rippers & all say it can't be done.  I just wanted
to get
a few phrases into *.wav, but I guess I can't on this computer or w/ this
AZT CD.

I have another new CD, but I'm not going to install it - I've been thru 3
already.
<G>
TomR.


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>> How does one set sndrec32.exe up to record from the microphone?
>>
>> sndrec32.exe NEVER hears anything... it records a blank, empty, soundless
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>
>Are you sure your microphone is working okay? Does it work with any other
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>
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List Member Engelbert van Loock <Engelbert.v@n.loock.com> wrote:
Tom,

after all it seems to me to be a hardware problem - as you already
mentioned. Basically your CD drive must be conected to your audio card.
You wrote it plays ok w/o recording - does the sound go over the sound
card or have you plugged the amp/speakers to the headphone jack? Maybe
it is not a cd prob but a inability of your sound card.

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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Engelbert
Very perceptive!  Computer is PackardBell, so came with EVERYTHING on the
one card.
I spent 2 months getting it to recognize a plug-in modem & stop using the
built-in.
The sound is SoundBlaster 16-bit Stereo, but is built-in.  CD interface is
on that 
card too.  Why PackardBell?  Until recently, I could get much more computer for
about $1,200 than I could for $2,000 from anybody else.  Now, one of my free
ISPs
is offering a 535MHz, 10Gb HD, 32M RAM for $449 & has a $50 rebate, leaving only
a monitor to buy!

Thank you for continuing to look into this problem.
<G>
TomT.




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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Say happy birthday to Bev Brown. When you get this old you deserve a little
respect.
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Well Happy Birthday Bev ?
Lessee,, think I gotta cake here somewhere.

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Hang on a sec, lemme get the fire extinguisher just
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blow.  :)

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Happy Birthday to Bev our Birthday Boy !
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(Gimme the one with the most icing!)  :P

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Yeaffers, here's a little birthday greeting, I keep
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List Member "Lou Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
Thank you one & all!!!  btw, it's 56, younger than you, Tom, & a lot younger
than Dale <g> ...

                         -->Bev<--

----- Original Message -----
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> Yeaffers, here's a little birthday greeting, I keep
> these for just such an occasion.  :)
>     _    /
>    ' )  /
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> Sincerely,
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
You're younger then Tom ?  Gosh Tom just how old
are you ??  :)

Well for MY birthday which is Nov. 30th, you can
send me a mail order bride from Japan.  Waist-length
black hair, very nice figure, and the only English
word she has learned thus far is, "Yes."

Oh yah, I can trade her in for a Blonde from Brooklyn
if need be.  :)

Sincerely,
David W.
 _____________________________________________________
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> Thank you one & all!!!  btw, it's 56, younger than
> you, Tom, & a lot younger
> than Dale <g> ...
> 
>                          -->Bev<--
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Wicker" <dw817@yahoo.com>
> To: <gfabasic@gfa.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2000 5:56 PM
> Subject: Re: [gfabasic] Quick-Present
> 
> 
> > Yeaffers, here's a little birthday greeting, I
> keep
> > these for just such an occasion.  :)
> >     _    /
> >    ' )  /
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> >  / __/_(_/ (_(__/ /_(_/_(_/(_/(_/_  .
> > /                              /
> >                               /
> > Sincerely,
> > David W.
> >
> > __________________________________________________
> > Do You Yahoo!?
> > Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites.
> > http://invites.yahoo.com/
> 
> 
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Now listen here, Louise Brown, you are as young as you feel. So, you can
come and change my diapers today.<G>

http://gfawhelp.gfa.net
http://gfawhelp.com
adbryant@gfa.net
adbryant@msn.com

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| List Member "Lou Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com> wrote:
| Thank you one & all!!!  btw, it's 56, younger than you, Tom, & a lot
younger
| than Dale <g> ...
|
|                          -->Bev<--
|
| ----- Original Message -----
| From: "David Wicker" <dw817@yahoo.com>
| To: <gfabasic@gfa.net>
| Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2000 5:56 PM
| Subject: Re: [gfabasic] Quick-Present
|
|
| > Yeaffers, here's a little birthday greeting, I keep
| > these for just such an occasion.  :)
| >     _    /
| >    ' )  /
| >     /--/ __   _   _   _  /
| >    /  (_(_/(_/_)_/_)_/(_/_
| >   /         /   /      /
| >            /   /      /
| >     __
| >    /  )       _/_ /     /             /
| >   /--<  . __  /  /_  __/ __   _  /   /
| >  / __/_(_/ (_(__/ /_(_/_(_/(_/(_/_  .
| > /                              /
| >                               /
| > Sincerely,
| > David W.
| >
| > __________________________________________________
| > Do You Yahoo!?
| > Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites.
| > http://invites.yahoo.com/
|
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Eyyeeww..  Garn Dale do you still wear those ?
How 'bout them underoos ??  :)

Sincerely,
David W.

* I'm having some difficulty getting my gui to work
  so I'm gonna post finished Rainstorm tomorrow
  instead.  Thanks to Russell for Windowlock and
  Mr. Loock for MIDI instrument playing !

--- Dale Bryant <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
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> 
> http://gfawhelp.gfa.net
> http://gfawhelp.com
> adbryant@gfa.net
> adbryant@msn.com
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lou Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com>
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> Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2000 1:06 AM
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> | List Member "Lou Brown" <bbrown1@ciaccess.com>
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> younger
> | than Dale <g> ...
> |
> |                          -->Bev<--
> |
> | ----- Original Message -----
> | From: "David Wicker" <dw817@yahoo.com>
> | To: <gfabasic@gfa.net>
> | Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2000 5:56 PM
> | Subject: Re: [gfabasic] Quick-Present
> |
> |
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> | >    ' )  /
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> | > /                              /
> | >                               /
> | > Sincerely,
> | > David W.
> | >
> | >
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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Dale, if this bombs, it's your fault <G>.  If you want to use this as filler
in one
of your GFANLs, have at it.

Sounds, music, etc., in various formats... for use in screensavers &
animations...

*My* 'puter: Win95a, Packard Bell P-100, 24M RAM, 5.1Gb HD, assorted problems.

Would NOT play MP2, MP3, MPG sound using calls to MCI.  Will now play MPG
sound after
modifying the system.ini [MCI] section.  I suspect that more modification is
necessary
to pick up MP2 & MP3.

Will NOT record sound as WAV - not from the CD or the microphone that came
with it!

All attempts to rip any CD failed - nothing can rip, but all can play.  Had
I kept a
list if the appls I tried, it would number about 37 now.  The sound, OEM
modem, etc.,
are all on one card.  The processor & memory are on the mother board.  The
CD interface
is a part of the sound section, which is identified as SoundBlaster, 16-bit
Stereo.

Seems to me it would be relatively simple to play & record as WAV.
WhaddaIknow!!!

I added a 56K/V90 modem & spent weeks disconnecting the OEM 14.4.  Phone
sounds do not 
go to the sound board now & connection at 56K ratchets down to 28.8K most of
the time
altho I have 56K/V90 capability on my phoneline.  One service, Juno, logs in
at 44K.

I am interested in making MP2 & MP3 function using MCI but don't know what
changes
are necessary to system.ini [MCI].

I've had, & appreciate very much, help from Ulli, Peter, David & Russ on
parts of this. 
THANKS very much, guys.

The computer came w/ some odd brand of MPG interface software, the name has
now been
forgotten.  After making one of Ulli's changes & renaming the dir that mess
was in, I
was startled by my BlueLight ISP interface suddenly showing an MPG
commercial during
dial up/log in.  I knew it had MPGs to use, but had never seen one in it's
window. It
therefore indicates more registry cleaning & system.ini modification is in
order.

Few on this list show interest in where I've been going & so far, no real
concrete
reaction from any possible clientele indicates any real interest, so my
project seems
to be wasted but has become a nagging need to make functional for MY OWN
SATISFACTION.

I've spent weeks scouring the world using various search engines for
freebies that
make parts of this project possible.  I have found:

Split MPG into sound (Layer II, MP2) & video
Rip video into DIBs (8-bit)
Rip video into PPM (24-bit - SMALL images make HUGE files!)
Compile BMPs into soundless MPG (not tried)
Compile DIBs into soundless MPG (not tried)
Compile PPMs into soundless MPG (not tried)
MP3 splicer (not tried yet, supposed to join MP3 files into one file)
MPG splicer by same author as above (works, but nothing I have plays more
than the 
    first one... much like trying to run an animated GIF & getting only the
first).

I have found NOTHING to convert simple WAV to MID.  BOY! How small *those*
files are!

We have two or three MPG routines in GFA-W(16).  Oddly, on my computer, all
3 play
both - sound or flicks w/ sound.  However... on this P-100, all must have
the extension
"MPG" to play.  I think system.ini comes into play on this.

We have a GFA_W(16) routine to read MPG headers from Peter that is probably
pretty
accurate, but I  had to alter it by going for results I got from several
other appls.
It was having difficulty maintaining frame counts, Layer identification & time.

Screensavers & animations I've done using the above appls employ Roland's
minijpeg.dll
or minijpeg.lib for display.  Since I can't play MP2 or MP3 ASYNC (donno
why!), sound
is interrupted while Roland's goodies load the large images.  Compiled tho,
his 2
goodies load fairly fast.  Running WAV audio ASYNC suffers NO interruptions.

MPG means smaller file size but w/ interruptions.  WAV means much larger
filesize, but
has NO interruptions.  Donno about MID - don't have many I'd want to use &
can't make
the darned things from what I have.

That's about it, boys & girls.  If any has an interest in doing MPG, I'll
gladly send
the appls I found w/ GFA-W(16) interfaces I've written for some of them.

End of report... now back to trying to master Pat's BTree.  Gotta get that
geneprog
operational.
<G>
TomR.

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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Have you downloaded GIFLOAD.ZIP by John Findlay?

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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
Have you downloaded ALBUMS.ZIP by Eberhard Funck?

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hey Peter !
That's neat !

How dju make it bold like that ?
Back when VideoTEL was the thing we did all kindsa
tricks and stuff to do graphics.  I didn't know you
could do those in Email ?  :)

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi Tom:

--- Tom Record
<tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> List Member Tom Record
> <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Dale, if this bombs, it's your fault <G>.  If you
> want to use this as filler
> in one
> of your GFANLs, have at it.
> 
> Sounds, music, etc., in various formats... for use
> in screensavers &
> animations...
> 
> *My* 'puter: Win95a, Packard Bell P-100, 24M RAM,
> 5.1Gb HD, assorted problems.
> 
> Would NOT play MP2, MP3, MPG sound using calls to
> MCI.  Will now play MPG
> sound after
> modifying the system.ini [MCI] section.  I suspect
> that more modification is
> necessary
> to pick up MP2 & MP3.

* Tom, if you have an-other computer try that.
  Maybe it's just the one you're on being fussy ?

> 
> Will NOT record sound as WAV - not from the CD or
> the microphone that came
> with it!

* Maybe check microphone with regular tape-recorder
  see it works.  Try also on different computer.

> 
> All attempts to rip any CD failed - nothing can rip,
> but all can play.  Had
> I kept a
> list if the appls I tried, it would number about 37
> now.  The sound, OEM
> modem, etc.,
> are all on one card.  The processor & memory are on
> the mother board.  The
> CD interface
> is a part of the sound section, which is identified
> as SoundBlaster, 16-bit
> Stereo.

* Goldwave takes CD Tracks.  Maybe check your Win98
  config on CD Player and make sure it's all good
  settings GoldWave likes to chew on.
> 
> Seems to me it would be relatively simple to play &
> record as WAV.
> WhaddaIknow!!!

* Quite-a-bit from what I've seen so far.  :)

> 
> I added a 56K/V90 modem & spent weeks disconnecting
> the OEM 14.4.  Phone
> sounds do not 
> go to the sound board now & connection at 56K
> ratchets down to 28.8K most of
> the time
> altho I have 56K/V90 capability on my phoneline. 
> One service, Juno, logs in
> at 44K.
> 
> I am interested in making MP2 & MP3 function using
> MCI but don't know what
> changes
> are necessary to system.ini [MCI].
> 
> I've had, & appreciate very much, help from Ulli,
> Peter, David & Russ on
> parts of this. 
> THANKS very much, guys.

* Tom you are SHURELY welcome !  :)
> 
> The computer came w/ some odd brand of MPG interface
> software, the name has
> now been
> forgotten.  After making one of Ulli's changes &
> renaming the dir that mess
> was in, I
> was startled by my BlueLight ISP interface suddenly
> showing an MPG
> commercial during
> dial up/log in.  I knew it had MPGs to use, but had
> never seen one in it's
> window. It
> therefore indicates more registry cleaning &
> system.ini modification is in
> order.
> 
> Few on this list show interest in where I've been
> going & so far, no real
> concrete
> reaction from any possible clientele indicates any
> real interest, so my
> project seems
> to be wasted but has become a nagging need to make
> functional for MY OWN
> SATISFACTION.

* I've been there.  Main thing slowing me down on
  MyRCS right now is cause I'm fighting in my head
  wanting to do my own MASSIVE GUI routines but saying
  HEY MyRCS is supposed to make dialog stuff right so
  do that first ?
> 
> I've spent weeks scouring the world using various
> search engines for
> freebies that
> make parts of this project possible.  I have found:
> 
> Split MPG into sound (Layer II, MP2) & video
> Rip video into DIBs (8-bit)
> Rip video into PPM (24-bit - SMALL images make HUGE
> files!)
> Compile BMPs into soundless MPG (not tried)
> Compile DIBs into soundless MPG (not tried)
> Compile PPMs into soundless MPG (not tried)
> MP3 splicer (not tried yet, supposed to join MP3
> files into one file)
> MPG splicer by same author as above (works, but
> nothing I have plays more
> than the 
>     first one... much like trying to run an animated
> GIF & getting only the
> first).
> 
> I have found NOTHING to convert simple WAV to MID. 
> BOY! How small *those*
> files are!

* I've gotta WAV to MIDI convertor.  I haven't tried
  it yet but want to some-time with my CD Music.
[enclosed]

> 
> We have two or three MPG routines in GFA-W(16). 
> Oddly, on my computer, all
> 3 play
> both - sound or flicks w/ sound.  However... on this
> P-100, all must have
> the extension
> "MPG" to play.  I think system.ini comes into play
> on this.
> 
> We have a GFA_W(16) routine to read MPG headers from
> Peter that is probably
> pretty
> accurate, but I  had to alter it by going for
> results I got from several
> other appls.
> It was having difficulty maintaining frame counts,
> Layer identification & time.

* Display graphic tool I sent you can save .FLC
  movies from .GIFs and .JPGs.  That might help.
> 
> Screensavers & animations I've done using the above
> appls employ Roland's
> minijpeg.dll
> or minijpeg.lib for display.  Since I can't play MP2
> or MP3 ASYNC (donno
> why!), sound
> is interrupted while Roland's goodies load the large
> images.  Compiled tho,
> his 2
> goodies load fairly fast.  Running WAV audio ASYNC
> suffers NO interruptions.
> 
> MPG means smaller file size but w/ interruptions. 
> WAV means much larger
> filesize, but
> has NO interruptions.  Donno about MID - don't have
> many I'd want to use &
> can't make
> the darned things from what I have.

* I'm finding MIDI sounds a little different on each
  computer.  It's not nice I know but I'm ZAP/PING a
  few MIDIs just cause they don't sound good on my
  computer.  :/  Course most a these are <5k UNZIPed.
> 
> That's about it, boys & girls.  If any has an
> interest in doing MPG, I'll
> gladly send
> the appls I found w/ GFA-W(16) interfaces I've
> written for some of them.

* Your next challenge is to convert Playstation .STR
  streaming movie & audio files into .MPG.

(Just kidding !)  Hey can-cha take a joke gosh your
face is awful red why you swinging that mouse around
your head ??  :)

> 
> End of report... now back to trying to master Pat's
> BTree.  Gotta get that
> geneprog
> operational.
> <G>
> TomR.

Sincerely,
David W.

* FILE WON'T FIT HERE *

get it at:
http://www.geocities.com/dw817/temp/wav2midi.zip


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List Member Tom Record <tiger.genealogical.rescue@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
At 05:45 PM 10/08/00 -0700, you wrote:
>
>* Tom, if you have an-other computer try that.
>  Maybe it's just the one you're on being fussy ?
>

Not practical at the moment, David.

>
>* Maybe check microphone with regular tape-recorder
>  see it works.  Try also on different computer.
>

Again, not practical, but good troubleshooting procedure.

>
>* Goldwave takes CD Tracks.  Maybe check your Win98
>  config on CD Player and make sure it's all good
>  settings GoldWave likes to chew on.
>

Running Win95a, NOT Win98.  Both appls PLAY just fine.

>
>
>* I've gotta WAV to MIDI convertor.  I haven't tried
>  it yet but want to some-time with my CD Music.
>[enclosed]
>

Bummer, Chief.  Takes msec to generate a 200-400 byte
file that is dead silence from 37K to 1.3M piano music.
Files shows a time of a few secs less than the WAVs, but 
have no sound in'em at all or just a tiny bell that is 
very hard to hear.  ALL volumes are set to max.

>
>
>* Display graphic tool I sent you can save .FLC
>  movies from .GIFs and .JPGs.  That might help.
>

Can already generate & alter FLI & FLC w/ David K. Mason's
programs.  DOS, but not fussy like the one you sent. Been
registered user for 5, 6 yrs.
>
>
>* Your next challenge is to convert Playstation .STR
>  streaming movie & audio files into .MPG.
>
>(Just kidding !)  Hey can-cha take a joke gosh your
>face is awful red why you swinging that mouse around
>your head ??  :)
>

Gimme a format to play with.  The mouse is dead - over inna corner w/ 5 or 6
others <G>.

>

Thanks for trying to help.
<G>
TomR.

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Morning Tom !
Ready for the weekend ?  :)

> Not practical at the moment, David.

* Well, if some of your picture/audio to .MPG stuff is
  in DOS, shutdown Win95 and run it in pure DOS maybe
  that work ?
> Again, not practical, but good troubleshooting
> procedure.

* Rarely should you blame the programmer cause it
  must work on his side or he wouldna post it.  :)

> Running Win95a, NOT Win98.  Both appls PLAY just
> fine.

* There are some subtle differences in Win95 and
Win98.
  Win98 I've heard is Win95 without the bugs.

> Bummer, Chief.  Takes msec to generate a 200-400
> byte
> file that is dead silence from 37K to 1.3M piano
> music.
> Files shows a time of a few secs less than the WAVs,
> but 
> have no sound in'em at all or just a tiny bell that
> is 
> very hard to hear.  ALL volumes are set to max.

* I think you answered your own question then.
  May be hardware ?  If you have used multiple
programs
  including one I sent and you're just barely getting
  any audio then there may-be a lever roller
  controlling volume, the card is not seated all
  proper tight fit like Legos and/or card is damaged
  or inequip to handle audio in.

* Run or download a program that showing the level of
  audio coming in.  If that stays flat well there it
  is not your fault right ?

* You could do a bit o' research.  Do a internet
  search and maybe read up on how some other people
  recorded CD Audio.  Especially keyword search the
  make & model of your CD Player and audio-in card
  thingie.

* Worse to worse contact the manufacturer and ask
  THEM how to do it cause they're stuff is supposed
  to right ?

> Can already generate & alter FLI & FLC w/ David K.
> Mason's
> programs.  DOS, but not fussy like the one you sent.
> Been
> registered user for 5, 6 yrs.

* My software fussy ?  Naaah..  Just keyboard
  intensive.  :)

> Gimme a format to play with.  The mouse is dead -
> over inna corner w/ 5 or 6
> others <G>.

* Tom what'd chu do to your mice ?  They jump off
  the table cause you being too mean with them ?  :)

> Thanks for trying to help.

* Yah well I know it's frustrating sometimes cause
  you think somethings gonna work and it doesn't and
  well I guess that's why I don't like using other
  people's software unless there's no other-way.

> <G>
> TomR.

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List Member Ralf Schuenemann <ganerc@web.de> wrote:
Hi!

I've a few problems with my system memory. Maybe it's a dumb question.
But I have to process thousands of jpg-pictures. I load the stuff with
nviewl16.dll, analyze & cut them and finally save them as jpg again.
That's something I can't do with scripts (corel draw etc.). Works fine
so far. But here's the problem: my system memory is slowly decreasing.
Finally, the program starts to puke into my swapfile. Yes, I can create
huge swapfiles this way :). But if I finish my GFA-Basic program, I will
get all my memory back. So, I've a few questions...

I load the pictures (file$) this way:

   IF EXIST(file$)
      ' 
      lenBitmap%=512
      bmp&=GlobalAlloc(GMEM_MOVEABLE,lenBitmap%)
      ~GlobalLock(bmp&)
      bmp&=^NViewLibLoad(file$, (SP_CENTER))
      PUT 0,0,bmp&
      ~GlobalUnlock(bmp&)
      ~GlobalFree(bmp&)
      FREEBMP bmp&
      '
   ENDIF 

If I use this, I will slowly lose my memory. So, is this correct?
And if I write it this way, will there be any difference:

   IF EXIST(file$)
      '
      bmp&=^NViewLibLoad(file$, (SP_CENTER))
      PUT 0,0,bmp&
      FREEBMP bmp&
      '
   ENDIF 

And what about put & get? However, how do I free my memory - or
prevent the loss of memory? What is state of art? Is there any FAQ?
What about a garbage collection (and how does it work)?

Any comments - or solutions?
Thanks for any help!

Ralf

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hooph, I don't know whether to congratulate you on
this or to bop you with a pie for too many strangled
cliche's !

(Hehehe...)
Very nice Dale !  :)

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> practice.
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> 10. The modem is the message.
> 11. Too many clicks spoil the browse.
> 12. The geek shall inherit the earth.
> 13. Don't byte off more than you can view.
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> 18. Modulation in all things.
> 19. Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day,
> teach him to use the Net
> and he won't bother you for weeks.
> 20. There's no place like your homepage.
> 
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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Greets Ralf:

--- Ralf Schuenemann <ganerc@web.de> wrote:
> List Member Ralf Schuenemann <ganerc@web.de> wrote:
> Hi!
>=20
> I've a few problems with my system memory. Maybe
> it's a dumb question.
> But I have to process thousands of jpg-pictures. I
> load the stuff with
> nviewl16.dll, analyze & cut them and finally save
> them as jpg again.
> That's something I can't do with scripts (corel draw
> etc.). Works fine
> so far. But here's the problem: my system memory is
> slowly decreasing.
> Finally, the program starts to puke into my
> swapfile. Yes, I can create
> huge swapfiles this way :). But if I finish my
> GFA-Basic program, I will
> get all my memory back. So, I've a few questions...
>=20
> I load the pictures (file$) this way:
>=20
>    IF EXIST(file$)
>       '=20
>       lenBitmap%=3D512
>       bmp&=3DGlobalAlloc(GMEM_MOVEABLE,lenBitmap%)
>       ~GlobalLock(bmp&)
>       bmp&=3D^NViewLibLoad(file$, (SP_CENTER))
>       PUT 0,0,bmp&
>       ~GlobalUnlock(bmp&)
>       ~GlobalFree(bmp&)
>       FREEBMP bmp&
>       '
>    ENDIF=20
>=20
> If I use this, I will slowly lose my memory. So, is
> this correct?
> And if I write it this way, will there be any
> difference:
>=20
>    IF EXIST(file$)
>       '
>       bmp&=3D^NViewLibLoad(file$, (SP_CENTER))
>       PUT 0,0,bmp&
>       FREEBMP bmp&
>       '
>    ENDIF=20
>=20
> And what about put & get? However, how do I free my
> memory - or
> prevent the loss of memory? What is state of art? Is
> there any FAQ?
> What about a garbage collection (and how does it
> work)?
>=20
> Any comments - or solutions?
> Thanks for any help!
>=20
> Ralf

Yep I'm waaay down at the bottom here.  :)

OK, you're using some pretty high-order commands
that take out and put back memory.  You gotta REALLY
read up on it in help.  You shouldn't be getting a
garbage collection unless you're using a ton of
strings right ?  (And I thought computers today didn't
do that), just Apple ][ + right ?

The less machine-language pushing and pulling you do
should make the computer more friendly to work with.

If you want batch access, look into Image Alchemy.
It runs in DOS, but can do several thousand pictures
at one time and is familiar with over 100 picture
formats, including .JPG, .GIF, .BMP, and .PCX .
Worth looking into and might save you some head-ache
if these conversions are just for yourself.

Hope This Helps !

Sincerely,
David W.

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Well there have been sightings of a really big storm
headed our way, lots of rain, thunder, and lightning,
lots of lightning.

Look out your window and you should see it..

...

No..  Not that Window, this Window !  Win98 silly !
:)

Rainstorm v0.2 complete.
[enclosed]

Give it a sec to warm up, that delay for the
lightning is computation to the TEETH for the
cloud formations !  With just a punch more speed
I could have rippling clouds.  Maaan math is slow
stuff !

Greets & Thanks to Mr. Loock & Russell for
Windowlock & MIDI Note Player !

Barrrooom !!  :)

Tap a mouse key to return back to reality.

Enjoy !

Sincerely,
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List Member Ralf Schuenemann <ganerc@web.de> wrote:
Hi David!

David Wicker wrote:
> 
> 
> Yep I'm waaay down at the bottom here.  :)
> 
> OK, you're using some pretty high-order commands
> that take out and put back memory.  You gotta REALLY
> read up on it in help.  You shouldn't be getting a
> garbage collection unless you're using a ton of
> strings right ?  (And I thought computers today didn't
> do that), just Apple ][ + right ?
> 

I guess, it's an old technique (and I don't know how it
works). I'm just desperated... :)

> The less machine-language pushing and pulling you do
> should make the computer more friendly to work with.
> 
> If you want batch access, look into Image Alchemy.
> It runs in DOS, but can do several thousand pictures
> at one time and is familiar with over 100 picture
> formats, including .JPG, .GIF, .BMP, and .PCX .
> Worth looking into and might save you some head-ache
> if these conversions are just for yourself.
> 

Thanks, David. Hmm, for batch conversions I normally use
programs like Corel Draw, Paintshop Pro or Irfanview. I
guess, Image Alchemy will work the same. The problem is,
I examine the pictures (colors, structures) and save
them again in different folders. That's something I
*definitely* can't do with those programs. I have to use
a programming language. So, I still have my head-ache
(and it hurts more and more)... :)

Sincerely,

Ralf


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List Member "Eberhard Funck" <funck@hildesheim.sgh-net.de> wrote:
Hallo Ralf,

--> Forget this lines. These lines are sheet.
      If you work with pointers to aloccated memory,
      than use it in the right way.

      But for your use, you don't need these terrible lines.

>I load the pictures (file$) this way:
>
>   IF EXIST(file$)
>      '
>      lenBitmap%=512
>      bmp&=GlobalAlloc(GMEM_MOVEABLE,lenBitmap%)

---> Here you allocate memory for what?

>      ~GlobalLock(bmp&)

---> here you overwrite the Handle of your alocated memory with the
      bitmap handle from the DLL

>      bmp&=^NViewLibLoad(file$, (SP_CENTER))
>      PUT 0,0,bmp&

---> Windows can not free the memory with a wrong handle!!!!!!

>      ~GlobalUnlock(bmp&)
>      ~GlobalFree(bmp&)
>      FREEBMP bmp&
>      '
>   ENDIF
>
>If I use this, I will slowly lose my memory. So, is this correct?
>And if I write it this way, will there be any difference:


--> These lines are better, but it is better to work with
      the API-function ~DeleteObject(bmp&), because the Handle to the bitmap
      comes from a DLL and it is always better to free this Objects with the
      API-function and NOT with the GFA Basic functions.



IF EXIST(file$)
  '
  bmp&=^NViewLibLoad(file$, (SP_CENTER))
  PUT 0,0,bmp&#
  ~DeleteObject(bmp&)
  ' and NOT:
  ' FREEBMP bmp&
  '
ENDIF



Greetings

Eberhard


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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Greets Ralf:

> Hi David!
>=20
> I guess, it's an old technique (and I don't know how
> it
> works). I'm just desperated... :)
>=20
>=20
> Thanks, David. Hmm, for batch conversions I normally
> use
> programs like Corel Draw, Paintshop Pro or
> Irfanview. I
> guess, Image Alchemy will work the same. The problem
> is,
> I examine the pictures (colors, structures) and save
> them again in different folders. That's something I
> *definitely* can't do with those programs. I have to
> use
> a programming language. So, I still have my
> head-ache
> (and it hurts more and more)... :)
>=20
> Sincerely,
>=20
> Ralf

Hey Ralf.  If you're using IrfanView, that's like a
clone of Display except it's more mouse intensive.

For GFA, if you got the HD space, can convert ALL
your pictures to .BMP and when ready to zap or move
erase temporary .BMP matched filename and get just the
true filename, best way would be {filename}.* using
DOSSHELL Copy or something to make sure you get it
no-matter what the extension.

Make .BMP thumbnails or full-size and it should be
quite easy to browse and pop 'em in your favorite
folders.  If Irfanview is too mouse intensive, you
could consider CTRL- or ALT- keystrokes worked into
your program as MACROS keystroke.  Natch you gotta
make
a script-engine but that's half the fun in
programming,
make a picture sorter just the way you like it.  :)

Good Luck (and hey, send a .EXE our way when you're
done so we can CRITIQUE it) (also maybe sort some of
our own pix with it !) :)

Sincerely,
David W.

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List Member David Wicker <dw817@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi Ralf, yaas I'm gonna have a second go.  :)

- - -

Okay, brought up Irfanview, it's more recent then
Image Alchemy and, as I thought it has excellent
archive functions.

The version I am using is: I_VIEW32.EXE, Version 9x
3.17.

In it, go to [F]ile, [T]humbnails.
Now this isn't only size of Thumbnail window.  Hit
[ALT] [SPACE] [X] to MAXIMIZE it on screen.  Use mouse
ONLY to tap the [BROWSE] button.  Select your
directory of many pictures.  It is asking for
directory only, not the pictures, it gets those
automatically.  Click on OKAY and let it get all the
thumbnails in.  Now you've actually gotten a lot of
good options from here.

If you're gonna select an odd bunch of pictures you
need to use BOTH mouse and keyboard.

HOLD down the [CTRL] key and don't let it go.  Then
use the MOUSE to click on all the pictures you want.
To de-select click on it again.  Keep that [CTRL] key
held.  If you let go accidentally it loses all your
selections.  When all done for this one set of
pictures, release the [CTRL] key and hit [F8] .
>From here you have VERY GOOD configuration to up to
=3D5=3D custom directories to move pictures or put copies.
Hit [F7] to move them, or [DEL] to erase them.

Configure your fav. 5 directories where you like 'em.
You can get 5 different types of pictures at a time
this way and don't forget any hot-keys in HELP I may
have missed.

* * *

Hope This Helps !

Sincerely,
David W.


--- Ralf Schuenemann <ganerc@web.de> wrote:
> List Member Ralf Schuenemann <ganerc@web.de> wrote:
> Hi David!
>=20
> David Wicker wrote:
> >=20
> >=20
> > Yep I'm waaay down at the bottom here.  :)
> >=20
> > OK, you're using some pretty high-order commands
> > that take out and put back memory.  You gotta
> REALLY
> > read up on it in help.  You shouldn't be getting a
> > garbage collection unless you're using a ton of
> > strings right ?  (And I thought computers today
> didn't
> > do that), just Apple ][ + right ?
> >=20
>=20
> I guess, it's an old technique (and I don't know how
> it
> works). I'm just desperated... :)
>=20
> > The less machine-language pushing and pulling you
> do
> > should make the computer more friendly to work
> with.
> >=20
> > If you want batch access, look into Image Alchemy.
> > It runs in DOS, but can do several thousand
> pictures
> > at one time and is familiar with over 100 picture
> > formats, including .JPG, .GIF, .BMP, and .PCX .
> > Worth looking into and might save you some
> head-ache
> > if these conversions are just for yourself.
> >=20
>=20
> Thanks, David. Hmm, for batch conversions I normally
> use
> programs like Corel Draw, Paintshop Pro or
> Irfanview. I
> guess, Image Alchemy will work the same. The problem
> is,
> I examine the pictures (colors, structures) and save
> them again in different folders. That's something I
> *definitely* can't do with those programs. I have to
> use
> a programming language. So, I still have my
> head-ache
> (and it hurts more and more)... :)
>=20
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List Member "Dale Bryant" <adbryant@email.msn.com> wrote:
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